Perry and Shawna Mornings: Recent Episodes

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “5 Senses.” Dr. Winfred Neely, the Professor Emeritus of Old Testament, Biblical Interpretation, and Preaching at Moody Bible Institute, explored how our senses can point us toward a deeper experience of God and His presence. Next, Dave Hataj, the author of “Good Work: How Blue Collar Business Can Change Lives, Communities, and the World,” explained why blue-collar work matters to God and how using our hands with excellence, integrity, and purpose can make a lasting impact. We then turn to our listeners and pose the question, “Tell us about a time when god touched your heart through the healthy physical touch of another person.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Winfred Neely [ 11:17 ]Dave Hataj [ 24:53 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “Impact Week.” Dr. Heather Holleman, the author of “Sent: Living a Life That Invites Others to Jesus,” shared how staying close to Jesus naturally opens doors to share the gospel, offering practical encouragement to see everyday conversations as opportunities to join God’s work. Then Crawford Loritts, the President and Founder of Beyond Our Generation, explored why many believers try to live the Christian life in their own strength and what Scripture teaches about walking in the power of the Holy Spirit. Additionally, Dr. Ronald Sauer, a retired Professor of Bible and Greek from the Moody Bible Institute, reflected on the often-overlooked ministry of the Holy Spirit, sharing how God’s Spirit guides, convicts, comforts, and empowers believers to follow Christ faithfully. We then turned to our listeners on the phone line and asked, "How has Jesus changed you?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Heather Holleman [ 12:26 ]Crawford Loritts [ 28:18 ]Call Segment [ 41:18 ]Dr. Ronald Sauer [ 50:20 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Impact Week.” Lina AbuJamra, the founder of Living With Power, unpacked how cultural expectations can distort the Christian life and explored what genuine faith looks like when our circumstances don’t match our hopes. Then the host of Faith & Finance Live, Rob West, explored the connection between financial health and spiritual growth, showing how wise stewardship can free us to hear God’s direction and respond with greater faith. Jay Pounder, the Stewardship Representative, and Jim Conrad, the Dean of the Moody Aviation campus in Spokane, provided an update on the fires affecting the area. They discussed how churches, along with Moody Aviation and local believers, are supporting displaced families during this ongoing crisis. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:
Rob West [ 19:00 ]
Lina AbuJamra [ 31:35 ]
Spokane Update [ 47:38 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “Impact Week.” Founder of Winning at Home, Dan Seaborn, shared why rejecting passivity and embracing God’s design for the family can leave a lasting legacy. Tim Challies, the author of “Do More Better: A Practical Guide to Productivity,” unpacked a biblical view of productivity and what it means to use our time for what matters most. Lana Silk, the President and Chief Executive Officer with Transform Iran, shared an update on Iran and revealed how the gospel continues to spread despite intense pressure from the regime. We then turned to our listeners on the phone line and asked, “What ministry has most impacted your life?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Call Segment [ 00:50 ]
Lana Silk [ 08:07 ]
Dan Seaborn [ 20:56 ]Tim Challies [ 37:10 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “The Goodness of God.” Dr. Bradley Baurain, a Professor at Moody Bible Institute, explored how God’s goodness transforms the way believers trust Him, love others, and reflect His character in everyday life. Anne Graham Lotz, one of the five most influential evangelists of her generation, reflected on her father’s gospel legacy, Billy Graham, and encouraged believers to share Christ faithfully in every season. The Vice President and Head of Moody Global Media, Wes Ward, reflected on how Moody Radio is embracing digital media to expand the reach of the gospel while remaining firmly rooted in God’s Word. We then turned to our listeners on the phone line and asked, "What would you like to hear more or add to Moody Radio?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Wes Ward [ 15:51 ]Call Segment [ 24:00 ]Dr. Bradley Baurain [ 45:25 ]Anne Graham Lotz [ 53:30 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “The Goodness of God.” Dr. Michael Vanlaningham, retired Professor of Bible at the Moody Bible Institute, unpacked how God’s sovereignty and goodness provide hope in the midst of suffering, reminding listeners that even life’s hardest trials are never outside His care. The Research Professor of Theology and Biblical Studies at Phoenix Seminary, Dr. Wayne Grudem, unpacked the difference between the visible and invisible church, emphasized the marks of genuine faith, and encouraged believers to abide in Christ and walk daily in the power of the Holy Spirit. One of the five most influential evangelists of her generation, Anne Graham Lotz, reflected on her father’s gospel legacy, Billy Graham, and encouraged believers to share Christ faithfully in every season. We then turned to our listeners on the phone line and asked, "How did the goodness of God amaze you?" How You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Call Segment [ 00:49 ]Dr. Michael Vanlaningham [ 25:01 ]Dr. Wayne Grudem [ 39:02 ]Anne Graham Lotz [ 52:02 ]Make It a Metaphor [ 1:01:45 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “The Goodness of God.” The author of “Waking Up to the Goodness of God,” Susie Larson, unpacked what it means to trust God beyond what we can imagine, encouraging listeners to surrender control and walk by faith through every season. The Pastor Emeritus of Moody Church, Dr. Erwin Lutzer, unpacked how believers can trust God’s goodness in a broken world while wrestling honestly with doubt and suffering. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Teaching [ 00:50 ]Susie Larson [ 22:08 ]Dr. Erwin Lutzer [ 36:12 ]
Ally Thinks It's Funny [ 48:09 ]

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Today, Karl and Crew celebrated 100 years of Moody Radio by looking back on God’s faithfulness throughout the ministry’s history. Dr. Gary Chapman, Dr. Erwin Lutzer, Janet Parshall, Wes Ward, and many other familiar Moody Radio voices wished Moody Radio a happy 100th birthday, highlighting a century of proclaiming the unstoppable gospel. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:
Dr. Erwin Lutzer [ 00:00 ]
Mark Jobe [ 14:07 ]
Janet Parshall [ 20:35 ]
Dr. Gary Chapman [ 29:52 ]
Ron Hutchcraft [ 34:03 ]
Rob West [ 39:02 ]
Wes Ward [ 43:43 ]
Colin Smith [ 47:16 ]
Nancy Turner [ 52:45 ]
Juni Felix [ 56:00 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “The Goodness of God.” The lead Professor in the Master’s Program in Spiritual Formation and Discipleship, Dr. Bill Thrasher, reflected on the goodness of God, encouraging listeners to trust His character, find refuge in Him, and cultivate a deeper dependence on Him through every circumstance. Valentyn Lupashko shared how he helps lead summer Bible camps for children affected by war, sponsored by the Slavic Gospel Association, bringing hope, healing, and the gospel to children and families across Ukraine. We then turned to our listeners on the phone line and asked, "What's one thing in your life that is evidence of the goodness of God? You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Call segments [ 8:48 ]
Dr. Bill Thrasher [21:14 ]
Valentyn Lupashko [ 32:28 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “First Principle.” The author of “Ensnared: Overcoming the Darkness of the New Age and Occult with the Light of God’s Truth,” Jac Marino Chen, shared how Jesus delivered her from abuse, addiction, and the occult, encouraging listeners that no one is beyond the reach of God’s saving grace and transforming power. The President of Dallas Theological Seminary, Dr. Mark Yarborough, drew from his book The Rekindled Heart to share practical, biblical essentials for reviving a fading faith and living with renewed passion for Christ and His mission. We then turned to our listeners on the phone line and asked, “Did the Lord ever use Moody Radio to allow you to hear exactly what you needed in that moment?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Call Segment [ 07:25 ]Jac Marino Chen [ 26:05 ]
Dr. Mark Yarborough [ 39:13 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our theme, “First Principle,” examining why discipleship is broken in America. Dr. Ron Hunter, the CEO of D6 Family Ministry, explained why parents play the primary role in discipleship, sharing practical ways to cultivate lifelong faith through everyday rhythms, meaningful relationships, and age-appropriate guidance. The Executive Director of Moody’s Theological Seminary Center for Compelling Biblical Preaching, Dr. Eric Redmond, explained why discipleship must extend beyond programs and small groups, encouraging believers to invest personally in others and model how faith shapes everyday life. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:
Make It A Metaphor with Jonathan [ 22:09 ]
Dr. Ron Hunter [ 27:02 ]Dr. Eric Redmond [ 39:01 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our theme, “First Principle,” where we explored the difference between decision and surrender. Dannah Gresh, author of “And the Bride Wore White,” shared insights on purity culture, emphasizing that true purity is found in Christ and urging the Church to embrace a biblical vision of sexual integrity with both truth and grace. Dr. John Mabus, a professor from Moody Bible Institute highlighted that genuine salvation requires wholehearted surrender to Jesus, focusing on discipleship and a life transformed by Him. We also engaged our listeners, asking, “If the foundation of your salvation was off from the very beginning, how would you know?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dannah Gresh [ 06:12 ]Call Segment [ 18:45 ]Dr. John Mabus [ 46:36 ]Ally Think It's Funny [ 56:40 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “First Principle,” and explained why religion can't save people. Phil Shappard served over 30 years as National Operations Manager of Moody Radio. He reflected on Moody Radio’s 100-year legacy, sharing stories of the ministry’s humble beginnings, technological innovation, and unwavering commitment to proclaiming the gospel. J. Warner Wallace, an adjunct professor of apologetics at Talbot School of Theology, shared how his experience as a cold-case detective led him to examine the evidence for Christianity, explaining why the historical case for Jesus’ resurrection continues to strengthen believers’ confidence and hope. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Music Through the Decades [ 01:18 ]Phil Shappard [ 15:11 ]J. Warner Wallace [ 30:00 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “First Principle,” and posed the thought-provoking question, “Can you go to church for years and not know Christ?” The President and Chief Executive Officer of Transform Iran, Lana Silk, explained why many Iranians see the current conflict differently from how it’s portrayed in the West and shared how believers continue to bring hope amid uncertainty. The lead pastor of City Church, Dean Inserra, unpacked his book “The Unsaved Christian,” explaining the marks of cultural Christianity and encouraging listeners to examine whether their faith rests in Christ alone rather than heritage, morality, or religious tradition. Abdu Murray, the President of Embrace the Truth, shared how his journey from Islam to Christ shaped his understanding of cultural Christianity and encouraged listeners to pursue genuine saving faith over religious tradition. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Lana Silk [ 13:47 ]Dean Inserra [ 24:32 ]Abdu Murray [ 34:52 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “The Anxious Generation,” by asking: What are you carrying today that you need to lay down? Dr. Joseph Stowell, former president of Moody Bible Institute, reflected on Moody Radio’s response to 9/11 and pointed listeners to God’s sovereignty and the hope of the gospel. Bruce Everhart, Vice President and Chief Development Officer at Moody Bible Institute, shared how Moody Radio became a source of prayer and biblical encouragement after the attacks. Wayne Shepherd, a veteran radio broadcaster, recalled how Moody Radio offered hope and truth during a time of tragedy and uncertainty. Mark Elfstrand, former host and executive producer of The Morning Ride on Moody Radio, reflected on being on the air during 9/11 as listeners searched for answers. We also played archival recording from Mike Kellogg from September 11, 2001. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:1 Peter 5 Devo [ 00:49 ]Dr. Joseph Stowell [ 21:08 ]Bruce Everhart [ 30:41 ]Mike Kellogg's Poem and Gospel Message [ 40:02 ]
Mark Elfstrand [ 49:34 ]
Wayne Shepherd [ 56:38 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “The Anxious Generation,” exploring God's prescription for peace. Dr. Winfred Neely, the Professor Emeritus of Old Testament, Biblical Interpretation, and Preaching at Moody Bible Institute, joined us to unpack what agape love truly means and shared how to love others in a way that reflects the heart and character of God. He wrote, “How to Overcome Worry.” The Founder and Director of ChristLife Ministries, Greg Dempster, joined us to discuss why anxiety often reveals the burdens we were never meant to carry and encourage us to exchange self-reliance for the peace only Jesus provides. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:
Dr. Winfred Neely [ 04:15 ]
Greg Dempster [ 28:49 ]Make It a Metaphor [ 43:29 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “The Anxious Generation,” focusing on how fear can rewire the brain. We had Dr. Fuz Rana, the President, CEO, and Senior Scholar at Reasons to Believe, as our guest. He discussed how God designed our brains to respond to fear and offered hope through His truth and the work of the Holy Spirit. Additionally, Dr. John Mabus, Associate Professor and Program Head of Pastoral Studies at Moody Bible Institute, joined us to discuss how fear affects everyone and how bringing our fears to God helps us respond with courage in both everyday situations and life’s greatest challenges. Dr. Erwin Lutzer unpacked how Scripture renews our thinking and helps us keep our focus on Christ. Dr. Lutzer is Pastor Emeritus of Moody Church and author of “Cries from the Cross.” You can listen to the highlights from today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Devo and Isaiah 8:11-14 [ 00:49 ]
Dr. John Mabus [ 20:05 ]
Dr. Fuz Rana [ 30:06 ]
Dr. Erwin Lutzer [ 42:10 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “The Anxious Generation,” exploring the question, “Is social media shaping our lives more than Jesus?” Drew Dickens, an AI expert, joined us to unpack the subtle ways technology shapes our hearts and challenged us to remain intentional followers of Jesus in an AI-driven world. Next, Arlene Pellicane, host of the Happy Home podcast, joined us to explore how our devices shape our habits and encouraged families to reclaim their time, relationships, and faith by putting Christ before screens. We then turned to our listeners on the phone line and asked, “What is something you were influenced to buy through”You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Arlene Pellicane [ 02:00 ]
Call Segment [ 17:44 ]
Drew Dickens [ 32:25 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “The Anxious Generation,” by exploring the question, “Why are we all feeling so exhausted?” A board-certified internal medicine physician, Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith, joined us to discuss seven ways to Sabbath, allowing God to refill areas of our lives that are depleted. She is the author of “Sacred Rest: Recover Your Life, Renew Your Energy, Restore Your Sanity.” Dr. Ronnie Floyd joined us to unpack Jesus’ invitation in Matthew 11 to bring our burdens to Him and trust Him first. Ronnie is the host of the weekly podcast called “For Leaders Podcast with Ronnie Floyd.” We then turned to our listeners on the phone line and asked, “What did you have to say no to be free from hopeless exhaustion and find rest in God?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Call Segment [ 13:55 ]
Dr. Saundra Smith [ 23:00 ]
Dr. Ronnie Floyd [ 38:34 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, "Living Free," focusing on being living dangerously Free. Dr. Sam Storms joined us to explore how the Holy Spirit empowers believers to live boldly for Christ. Looking at Acts 4, we discussed what it means to be filled with the Spirit, trust God’s sovereignty, and find the courage to proclaim the gospel faithfully. Dr. Storms is the founder and president of Enjoying God Ministries and serves on the Council of the Gospel Coalition. The Director of the Land Center for Cultural Engagement at Southwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, Daniel Darling, also joined us to discuss Christian patriotism, civic responsibility, and how believers can love their country without turning politics or national identity into an idol.
He wrote, “In Defense of Christian Patriotism.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Gospel Message - Karl [ 00:49 ]Dr. Sam Storms [ 26:46 ]Daniel Darling [ 41:19 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Living Free." The Professor of Bible at Moody Bible Institute, Dr. Jim Coakley, joined us to discuss Galatians 5, the contrast between the works of the flesh and the fruit of the Spirit, and how true believers can walk in true freedom through the Spirit’s Power. He has written “14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible.” Lori Wildenberg joined us as well, to talk about how grandparents can intentionally pass on faith and make an eternal impact on their grandchildren. She is a licensed parent-family educator and author of “Grandparents Make Grand Partners.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Make It a Metaphor [ 14:42 ]Lori Wildenberg [ 24:55 ]
Dr. Jim Coakley [ 35:51 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Living Free," focusing on being free from people-pleasing. Debra Fileta, a faith-based professional counselor, joined us to talk about people-pleasing, why it often comes from fear and unmet needs, and how believers can learn to seek God’s approval above everyone else’s. Additionally, we had the President of the Pacific Garden Mission, Phil Kwiatkowski, join us to talk about the mission, the legacy of Unshackled, and how stories of changed lives continue to point people to the hope of Christ. The Founder and President of Iran Alive Ministries, Dr. Hormoz Shariat, joined us with an update on Iran following last night’s strikes, sharing insights into the regime, the pressure facing the Iranian people, and how the gospel continues to spread. We then opened the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We wanted to know who our longest listener was and asked them to call in. We then had Laurie Davies joined us to explain how emotional hoarding can keep us stuck, and how God helps us let go of the hurt, regret, and bitterness we’ve been holding on to. Laurie is the author of “Emotional Hoarding: Letting Go of the Stuff That Keeps You Stuck.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Call Segments [ 00:49 ]Phil Kwiatkowski [ 12:25 ]Debra Fileta [ 20:26 ]
Dr. Hormoz Shariat [ 34:12 ]
Laurie Davies [ 46:13 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Living Free," focusing on being free from shame. We examined the passage, John 8:1-11. The founder of Love & Truth Network, Garry Ingraham, joined us to talk about sexual brokenness, biblical identity, and why real healing requires both obedience to Christ and an honest Christian community. Gary is the author of "Am I Gay? Coming Out of Cultural Christianity and LGBTQ+ Identity Into Authentic Faith in Jesus.” The Pastor of Teaching and Vision at The Sanctuary, Micah Davis, joined us to talk about forgiveness, repentance, and how God meets repeat offenders with grace while calling them into healing and restoration. Micah is the author of “Three Strikes, You’re Forgiven.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Micah Davis [ 10:20 ]
Garry Ingraham [ 29:35 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we launched our weekly theme, "Living Free," focusing on being free even when you feel stuck. We examined Philippians 2:12-13. Daniel Darling joined us to discuss Galatians 5 and how outward religion can sometimes keep believers from resting in Christ. Daniel is the author of “In Defense of Christian Patriotism.” Drew Dyck, an acquisitions editor with Moody Publishers and the author of “Your Future Self Will Thank You,” joined the conversation to discuss Philippians 2 and how believers can take the next step of obedience by relying on God’s work within them. After that, we turned to our listeners on the phone line and asked, “What freedom has Christ given you that you are going to take hold of and use?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Drew Dyck [ 11:51 ]
Call Segment [ 35:25 ]
Daniel Darling [ 49:54 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we shared some of our Best Of. Rachel Faulkner talked about finding strength in loss, Lisa Anderson discussed singleness, and Dr. Mikel Del Rosario addressed whether Jesus truly claimed to be God. You can listen to the highlights of today’s program on the "Karl and Crew Showcast."

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Rachel Faulkner [ 01:42 ]Lisa Anderson [ 26:26 ]Mikel Del Rosario [ 39:40 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, "Dependence on God." We were joined by Kevan Chandler, founder of We Carry Kevan, and Tommy Shelton, pastor of Live Oaks Bible Church. They discussed how our needs can invite deeper fellowship and dependence on God. They are the Author of “The Hospitality of Need.” Additionally, Ron Block, the author of “Abiding Dependence,” joined us to talk about abiding dependence and learning to live moment by moment in the love of God. Phil Shappard joined us to discuss the book he co-authored, “This Is Moody Radio,” and reflect on 100 years of Moody Radio’s gospel ministry. We then turned to our listeners on the phone line and asked, “How is God helping you today?”You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Phil Shappard [ 06:40 ]Kevan Chandler and Tommy Shelton [ 20:10 ]Caller Segment [ 38:21 ]
Ron Block [ 43:10 ]
Make It A Metaphor [ 53:45 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Dependence on God." Paul Miller is Executive Director of seeJesus. He joined us to talk about developing a praying life marked by childlike dependence on God. Then, Pastor Nate Pickowicz of Harvest Bible Church joined us to talk about spiritual depression and how believers can seek joy and strength in Christ through God’s Word. Nate is the author of “Overcoming the Darkness.” Tim Goeglein is Vice President of External and Government Relations for Focus on the Family. He joined us to talk about restoring faith, family, and freedom while engaging a divided culture with truth and grace. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Ally Think It’s Funny [ 19:57 ]
Paul Miller [ 23:20 ]
Nate Pickowicz [ 40:12 ]Tim Goeglein [ 49:03 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Dependence on God." Dean Vander Mey, the executive director of Set Free Ministries, joined us to discuss finding true freedom in Christ through confession, repentance, and living in God's truth. We also welcomed Becky Beresford, author of "She Believed He Could, So She Did," to talk about replacing popular self-empowerment messages with truths rooted in Christ. Additionally, Ben Crawshaw, the Director of Member Engagement for Trueface, joined us to discuss shifting from a performance-based faith to a freedom rooted in trusting who God is and who we are in Christ. You can listen to the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dean Vander Mey [ 16:51 ]Becky Beresford [ 30:26 ]Ben Crawshaw [ 41:43 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we launched our weekly theme, “Dependence on God.” Rob West joined us to discuss the reasons churches collect money. He acknowledged the ways giving has sometimes been misused, while explaining how biblical generosity supports the church's work, reflects our trust in God, and enables believers to participate in His kingdom mission. Rob is the host of the radio program "Faith & Finance Live," CEO of Kingdom Advisors, and author of "Our Ultimate Treasure: A 21-Day Journey to Faithful Stewardship." We also welcomed Rebecca McLaughlin, who addressed difficult questions often raised against Christianity. She explained how biblical teachings on sexuality, love, marriage, and the role of women are rooted in God’s design and ultimately point to Jesus’ love for His people. Rebecca holds a theology degree from Oak Hill Seminary and is the author of "Confronting Christianity: 12 Hard Questions for the World's Largest Religion." Additionally, Todd Nettleton joined us to discuss the Day of the Christian Martyr, sharing stories of believers and modern persecuted Christians who have counted the cost of following Jesus. He challenged us to consider what we are willing to risk for the gospel. Todd is the Vice President for Message for the Voice of the Martyrs–USA and is the host of "The Voice of the Martyrs Radio", where he serves as a voice for persecuted Christians. You can listen to the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Todd Nettleton [ 05:50 ]
Rob West [ 17:10 ]Rebecca McLaughlin [ 27:00 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, "Temptation," by discussing various temptations with experts in their fields and how they overcome them. Dr. Winfred Neely joined us to discuss the temptation to manage worry in our own strength. He explained the difference between worry and concern and how believers can experience God’s peace by drawing near to Him in faith. Dr. Neely is Professor Emeritus of Old Testament, Biblical Interpretation, and Preaching at Moody Bible Institute and author of "How to Overcome Worry – Experiencing the Peace of God in Every Situation." Dr. Michael Rydelnik also joined us to talk about spiritual conflict in the Middle East, the danger of remaining silent in the face of evil, and how believers can stand firm by reading, meditating on, and speaking the Word of God. Dr. Rydelnik is Professor Emeritus of Jewish Studies and Bible and an Adjunct Professor in the undergraduate program at Moody Bible Institute. He is the author of "How Should Christians Think About Israel?" Omer Eshel joined us from Israel to discuss the reported protests in Gaza against Hamas. He explained how many Palestinian civilians are seeking freedom from Hamas’ control, urging believers to pray for peace, protection, and the people caught in the middle. Omer is the CEO and Co-founder of The Bible Comes to Life Travel and Educational Center. We then opened the phone lines to hear from our listeners and posed the question, “What temptation has God given you victory over?” You can catch the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Winfred Neely [ 44:34 ]Dr. Michael Rydelnik [ 13:38 ]Omer Eshel [ 7:04 ]
Caller Segment [ 32:27 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Temptation," by discussing various temptations with experts in their respective fields and how they overcome them. Our first guest, Anne Graham Lotz, joined us to talk about the subtle temptations believers face, explaining how self-consciousness, self-reliance, and spiritual laziness can pull us away from faith, even as God calls us to focus on Jesus, walk by the Spirit, and meet with Him daily. Anne is known for her deep biblical wisdom, speaks globally, and authored “God Won’t Leave You There.” Lina AbuJamra joined us as well to talk about temptation, explaining how believers can move past shame, understand what drives their desires, and run to the throne of grace, where Christ provides a way of escape. Lina is the founder of Living With Power Ministries and ministers to singles through her Moody Radio show, “Today’s Single Christian,” and also hosts “The Hope Podcast.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Lina AbuJamra [ 29:11 ]
Anne Graham Lotz [ 41:10 ]
Make It A Metaphor [ 55:27 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Temptation," by discussing various temptations with experts in their respective fields and how they overcome them. Our first guest, Kathi Lipp, joined us to talk about the temptation to hold on to clutter “just in case,” explaining how fear, anxiety, and constant pressure to upgrade can keep us from trusting God’s provision and living with freedom. Kathi is an author, speaker, blogger, and podcast host. We welcomed Dr. Ronnie Floyd to talk about overcoming temptation and spiritual strongholds, explaining why believers must stand on God’s Word, walk in the power of the Holy Spirit, and speak truth against the enemy’s lies. Dr. Floyd is a speaker, author, pastor, and host of the weekly podcast called “For Leaders Podcast with Ronnie Floyd.” We then opened up the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We posed the question, “Why did you keep going back to the temptation that hurt you most? And how did God work to break that?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Kathi Lipp [ 29:30 ]Dr. Ronnie Floyd [ 43:17 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Temptation," by discussing various temptations with experts in their respective fields and how they overcome them. Abdu Murray joined us to discuss toxic empathy and biblical compassion. He explained how believers can speak truth with love, resist tribalism, and follow Jesus' example of caring for others without enabling harmful behaviors. Abdu specializes in addressing the intersection of religious faith and emerging cultural trends and serves as the President of Embrace the Truth. Dan Seaborn also joined the conversation to address the temptation for couples to live like glorified roommates. He highlighted that honest communication, listening without defensiveness, and deeper surrender to Christ can help spouses nurture their marriages. Dan is the founder of Winning At Home, Inc. Additionally, Lana Silk spoke about the severe oppression facing Iran. She noted that suffering is not limited to Christians but affects the entire nation, while believers endure added persecution for their faith. Lana is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Transform Iran. You can listen to the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Lana Silk [ 12:10 ]Dan Seaborn [ 21:08 ]
Abdu Murray [ 35:08 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “Temptation,” by discussing various temptations with experts in their respective fields and how they overcome them. Our first guest, Dr. David Nelms, spoke about the temptation of pride in ministry. He emphasized the importance of giving God the glory, empowering others, and resisting the urge to protect one’s position or seek recognition for one's accomplishments. Dr. Nelms is the Founder of The Timothy Initiative. Next, we welcomed Arlene Pellicane, who addressed digital temptations in the home. She explained how distractions from phones, social media, news, and screens can draw parents away from God and their families. Arlene also offered practical suggestions for reclaiming connection and fostering a happier home. She is a speaker, author, and host of the Happy Home podcast. Finally, Dr. Drew Dickens joined us to discuss the temptations associated with artificial intelligence. He highlighted how tools that complete our half-formed thoughts can lure believers into sacrificing vulnerability, personal growth, and their authentic voice for speed and polished results. Dr. Dickens is an AI expert, the founder of the Encountering Peace app, and the author of “Whispers of the Spirit: A 40-Day Guide to Intimate Prayer.” You can catch the highlights from today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Drew Dickens [ 10:28 ]
Dr. David Nelms [ 21:20 ]
Arlene Pellicane [ 33:04 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, "Chivalry." Dr. Alex McFarland joined us to discuss the rise of the manosphere and the confusion surrounding masculinity. He explained that biblical manhood is not about passivity or toxicity, but rather a life characterized by virtue, sacrifice, responsibility, and devotion to God and family. Dr. McFarland is a Christian apologist, author, evangelist, religion and culture analyst, national talk show host, youth expert, and advocate for biblical truth. Additionally, Gil Stuart joined us to talk about restoration and remarriage. He emphasized that forgiveness, repentance, and trust must be addressed before entering a new marriage, especially for men stepping into the role of stepdad in a blended family. Gil and his wife, Brenda, are certified marriage coaches and are presenters of the "Laugh Your Way to a Better Marriage" video series. He is also the co-author of "Restored and Remarried." You can listen to the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Alex McFarland [ 20:45 ]Gil Stuart [ 06:10 ]

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Today, we continued with Chivalry Week. John Fuller is President of the Audio Team at Focus on the Family and co-host of the daily broadcast, Focus on the Family. He joined us to talk about his book, "First-Time Dad: The Stuff You Really Need to Know," and parental relationships with adult children. How important are love, humility, and respect when it comes to chivalry? Author, speaker, coach, and Founder of Love and Respect Ministries, Dr. Emerson Eggerichs shared highlights from his book, "Love and Respect." Finally, Barry Meguiar is the President of Meguiar's Inc. and the President and Founder of Ignite America. The seasoned businessman is on fire for the Lord and offered encouragement to share the Gospel no matter where you are and without fear. His book is called "Ignite Your Life: Defeat Fear With Effortless Faith." You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Team Conversation on Chilvalry [0:00]

Dr. Emmerson Eggerichs Interview [30:20]

Dr. John Fuller Interview [40:30]

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We continue with Chivalry Week on Karl and Crew. Dr. Michelle Watson Canfield joined us to discuss her book, "Dad, Here's What I Really Need from You: A Guide for Connecting with Your Daughter's Heart." Dr. Canfield is a licensed professional counselor. speaker and author. Best-selling author and syndicated radio host, Brant Hansen, also joined us. He unpacked the vital unseen character of a man, and we highlighted his book, "The Man We Need." Finally, we opened the phones and heard from women sharing their favorite acts of chivalry. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Calls segment on what women need in Chivalry [0:00]

Brant Hanson interview: [21:30]

Dr. Michelle Watson Canfield [32:38]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Chivalry.” Dr. Jonathan Griffiths joined us to talk about biblical masculinity, pointing to Jesus as the perfect example of strength and humility while explaining how the Holy Spirit transforms men from the inside out to serve their families and others well. Jonathan serves as President of Heritage College and Seminary and also leads Encounter the Truth. Junior Ziegler joined us to talk about biblical manhood, explaining how men can reject passivity and toxic masculinity by leading through sacrifice, serving others, confronting sin with grace, and pursuing what God has called them to build. Junior is the Lead Teaching Pastor at The Bridge Community Church in the Chicagoland area and is the author of "The Manual: A Practical Guide to Manhood." Omer Eshel joined us from Israel to share why many Israelis are deeply concerned about a possible deal with Iran, explaining the distrust toward Iran’s promises while pointing to Israel’s need for prayer and trust in God’s protection. Omer is the CEO and Co-founder of The Bible Comes to Life Travel and Educational Center. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Jonathan Griffiths [ 38:50 ]Junior Ziegler [ 27:42 ]
Omer Eshel [ 06:39 ]
Caller Segment [ 11:09 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “Chivalry.” Dr. Fazale Rana, also known as Dr. Fuz, joined us to discuss how biochemistry points to God’s design, explaining that discoveries in DNA and the unique human capacities for altruism, empathy, and chivalry reflect what it means to be made in the image of God. Dr. Fuz is the President, CEO, and Senior Scholar at Reasons to Believe, a non-profit that focuses on revealing God in science. Next, Seth Troutt joined us to talk about authentic masculinity, explaining how men can reject counterfeits such as passivity and toxic masculinity by pursuing godly character, Christlike responsibility, and biblical chivalry. Seth is the Teaching Pastor at Ironwood Church in the Phoenix metro area and author of “Authentic Masculinity: Leaving Behind the Counterfeits for God’s Design.” We then had Hutz Hertzberg join us to talk about the growing hunger for Christ-centered education, explaining why parents are rethinking their children’s schooling and how classical Christian education offers an alternative rooted in biblical truth. Hutz is the chairman at Hope in Truth and currently the Chief Education Officer of Turning Point USA’s education arm, Turning Point Education. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Fuz Rana [ 20:17 ]Seth Troutt [ 33:57 ]Hutz Hetzberg [ 11:49 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, "Under Pressure." We explored how pressure creates hope-filled people, and focused on Romans 5:1-5. Susie Larson joined us to talk about the hope God produces through suffering, explaining how endurance shapes character and how believers can actively fight painful memories with Scripture, gratitude, and the goodness of God. Susie is a well-known radio talk show host and podcaster of Susie Larson Live. Mike Tatlock joined us to talk about living with a compelling faith in a compromising culture, explaining how believers can hold to biblical truth without making agreements with false promises, while still responding to others with humility, compassion, and grace. Mike is the lead pastor at Grace Chapel church in Portland, Oregon, and is the author of “A Compelling Faith in a Comprising Culture.” We then opened up the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We posed the question, “What pressure did God free you from when you put your faith in God?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps: Caller Segment [ 10:32 ]
Mike Tatlock [ 23:06 ]
Susie Larson [ 43:56 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Under Pressure." Today we explored how pressure exposes what we really believe, and focused on Mark 4:35–41. Dr. Deb Gorton joined us to talk about how pressure can reveal the thoughts, beliefs, and burdens we need to sift through, explaining how biblical self-stewardship, wise community, and time with God help keep pressure from becoming burnout. Dr. Gorton is the Founder and CEO of Siv Counseling and Consultation. She also serves as Director of Community Care at Soul City Church in Chicago. Then we had Dr. Hormoz Shariat join us to share the urgent needs of believers in Iran, where Christians are facing fear, persecution, and practical hardship while continuing to stand strong for Christ. Dr. Shariat is the Founder and President of Iran Alive Ministries. Daniel Henderson also joined us to talk about spiritual warfare, explaining how opposition often arises when believers are serious about the gospel and why pastors and leaders must stay focused on prayer, the Word, and reliance on God rather than self-reliance. Daniel is the Founder and President of Strategic Renewal International, which coaches pastors. He is also the Global Director of The 6:4 Fellowship. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Daniel Henderson [ 08:28 ]
Dr. Deb Gorton [ 26:38 ]
Dr. Hormoz Shariat [ 38:02 ]Make It A Metaphor [ 49:04 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Under Pressure," which explores how pressure reveals where we run, and we focused on Psalm 46. Nadia Gordynsky joined us to share how the loss of her son opened her eyes to the value of every unborn life and led to a ministry that now helps mothers in crisis choose life and find hope in Christ. Nadia is the Founder, President, and CEO of Save a Life International. Greg Dempster joined us to talk about the pressure leaders carry when their value is tied to performance, explaining how God invites us to stop building our lives on our own strength and to receive the care only He can give. Greg is the Founder and Director of ChristLife Ministries. He's also been a senior leader, elder, and ministry director. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Nadia Gordynsky [ 44:39 ]Greg Dempster [ 33:09 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "Under Pressure," which explores how pressure exposes God's power, and we focused on 2 Corinthians 4:7–18. Rob West joined us to talk about financial pressure, trusting God as a provider, and practicing faithful stewardship when money feels tight. Host of the nationally syndicated radio program Faith & Finance Live, is CEO of Kingdom Advisors, and wrote “Our Ultimate Treasure: A 21-Day Journey to Faithful Stewardship.” Steve Norman joined us to help us understand when to carry our own load, when to ask for help, and how to support loved ones without trying to carry what only God can. Steve is a pastor, speaker, corporate wellness coach for Winning At Home, and the host of “The New Norm with Steve Norman.” He wrote the book called “The Preacher as Sermon: How Who You Are Shapes What They Hear.” We then opened up the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We posed the question, “What is the great stuff in your life you have not thanked God for, but you would like to now?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Rob West [ 22:45 ]Steve Norman [ 37:37 ]
Caller Question [ 17:21 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we started our weekly theme, "Under Pressure," which explores how pressure can lead to maturity and focuses on James 1:2-4. Dr. Drew Dickens joined us to unpack the rapid rise of AI, the money and technology driving it forward, and why believers need steady spiritual practices to stay grounded in Christ. Dr. Dickens is an AI expert and scholar who has made significant contributions at the intersection of technology, spirituality, and faith-based engagement. The author of “Whispers of the Spirit: A 40-Day Guide to Intimate Prayer.” Nichole J. Suvar also joined us to explain how pressure can reveal what we are carrying and how God invites us to find peace, identity, and rest in Him instead of trying to hold everything together. Nichole is a writer, speaker, and intentional living coach on a mission to help overwhelmed women embrace God’s design for mental wellness. She wrote, “I Don’t Have to Hold It All Together.” We then had Nate Pickowicz join us to discuss understanding and addressing spiritual depression from a biblical sense. He wrote “Overcoming the Darkness.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Drew Dickens [ 26:47 ]Nichole J. Suvar [ 15:17 ]
Nate Pickowicz [ 37:56 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “Discipleship.” Stefano Fehr joined us to share how Call of Hope is ministering in Muslim countries through practical care, discipleship, and gospel outreach among refugees and Muslim-background believers. Stefano is president of Call of Hope, a ministry among Muslims for over 120 years, and Chief Operating Officer of Evangelical Karmel Mission. Lana Silk also joined us to give an update on Iran, explaining the oppression facing women, children, and believers while sharing how Christians continue to minister with courage and hope in Christ. Lana is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Transform Iran. We then opened up the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We posed the question, “You thought you had a relationship with Jesus, but you did not. How did God convict and reach you?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Stefano Fehr [ 36:02 ]Lana Silk [ 11:34 ]Call Segment [ 51:03 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Discipleship.” Jim Daly joined us to talk about the spiritual landscape facing families today and how parents can live an authentic faith that draws their children toward Christ rather than pushing them away. Jim is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Focus on the Family and the host of the podcast. We then had Dr. Ronald Sauer join us to explain why the Holy Spirit is essential to the Christian life, guiding believers into truth, empowering daily obedience, and giving parents hope as they pray for their children. Dr. Sauer is the host of the podcast “Quiet Time” and has served as a Professor of Bible and Greek at Moody Bible Institute for 35 years. We also had Dr. Crawford Loritts join us to explain why discipleship cannot happen apart from the Holy Spirit, who glorifies Christ, illuminates God’s Word, and transforms believers from the inside out. Dr. Loritts is the President and Founder of Beyond Our Generation, which is committed to helping the next generation of Christian leaders. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Crawford Loritts [ 10:18 ]
Make it a Metaphor [ 23:34 ]
Jim Daly [ 28:41 ]
Dr. Ronald Sauer [ 48:57 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Discipleship.” Dr. Robert Lewis joined us to explain why discipleship moves beyond an audience mentality and into real investment, equipping believers to lead, grow, and call others up in Christ. Dr. Lewis is a pastor, founding partner of Better Man, and author of “Raising a Modern-Day Knight.” Dr. Hormoz Sharia joined us with an update on Iran, sharing how believers are suffering, and how Christ is bringing hope even in deep grief. Dr. Shariat is the Founder and President of Iran Alive Ministries (IAM), which uses satellite broadcasting and the internet to share the gospel with Iranians. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Robert Lewis [ 27:16 ]Dr. Hormoz Sharia [ 41:06 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Discipleship.” Dr. David Nelms joined us to explain why discipleship is more than listening to the Bible—it means obeying Jesus out of love and helping others grow as we go. David serves as Founder of The Timothy Initiative, a global movement that makes and multiplies disciples, churches, and leaders. We also had Leonard Tanks Jr. join us to share his story of radical transformation and explain how discipleship happens through real-life relationships, surrender, and walking alongside others as they grow in Christ. Leonard is an apologist and emerging theologian based in Cleveland, Ohio, where he serves as the pastor and church planter of Reach City Church. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. David Nelms [ 23:24 ]Leonard Tanks Jr. [ 36:00 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “Discipleship.” Dr. Bill Thrasher joined us to explain why discipleship must stay centered on Christ, depend on the Holy Spirit, and overflow into the lives of others through prayer and genuine relationships. Dr. Thrasher is the Lead Professor in the Master’s Program in Spiritual Formation and Discipleship at Moody Bible Institute. Dr. Erwin Lutzer also joined us to explain why discipleship is more than a decision or church activity. It begins with true repentance, new life in Christ, and a radical commitment to follow Him. Dr. Lutzer is a Pastor Emeritus of Moody Church and the featured speaker of Running to Win and Songs in the Night. We then opened up the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We posed the question, "There was something that was holding you back from everything. How did God set you free?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Bill Thrasher [ 32:10 ]Dr. Erwin Lutzer [ 01:16 ]Call Segment [ 17:43 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “Best of 1 Peter.” Dr. Richard Blackaby joined us to explain how experiencing God begins with hearing His Word, responding in obedience, and building daily habits that lead to spiritual maturity. Dr. Blackaby is the President of Blackaby Ministries International and author of “Experiencing God in Everyday Life: A Journey Toward Spiritual Maturity.” We then had Dr. Andy Bannister join us to explain how believers can be prepared to share the hope of Christ with gentleness and respect, while listening well to those who believe differently. Dr. Bannister is the Director of Solas and the author of several books, including “How to Talk About Jesus Without Looking Like An Idiot.” We then opened up the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We posed the question, "Who did God use to help walk you into freedom in Christ?”You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Richard Blackaby [ 42:01 ]Dr. Andy Bannister [ 08:00 ]Caller Segment [ 22:24 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Best of 1 Peter.” Paul Angone joined us to explain why your 20s can feel so difficult, how comparison can steal your focus, and how God uses the process to grow your character for your calling. Paul is a dynamic national keynote speaker, best-selling author, and organizational consultant, and has authored “101 Secrets for Your Twenties.” Dr. Ryan Cook also joined us to unpack 1 Peter 3 and explain how suffering with hope can serve as a platform for sharing Christ with gentleness and respect. Dr. Cook is a Professor of Old Testament and Hebrew at Moody Theological Seminary, is also a key writer for Today in the Word, and has a book coming out this June called “Talking with God: Daily Readings in the Psalms.” We then had Colin Smith join us to unpack 1 Peter 1:3-8, explaining how believers can rejoice in a living hope, even through trials, because Christ has secured an inheritance that cannot be taken away. Colin is a Senior Pastor Emeritus of The Orchard Evangelical Free Church and founder and teacher of a daily radio program called Open the Bible. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Paul Angone [ 20:47 ]Dr. Ryan Cook [ 42:13 ]Colin Smith [ 08:58 ]
Make it a Metaphor [ 56:48 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Best of 1 Peter.” Grace Fox joined us to explain how knowing the characteristics of God can bring peace during difficult seasons and to remind us that He sees us, sustains us, and is enough. Grace has been a career missionary for more than 30 years, a popular Bible teacher at international women’s events, and an award-winning author, including “Names of God: Knowing Peace.” Dr. John Mabus joined us to unpack 1 Peter 4:7-11 and explain how believers can stay prayerful, love earnestly, and use their gifts to glorify God in hard places. Dr. Mabus is an Associate Professor of Applied Theology and Church Ministries at Moody Bible Institute and has served as a Navy Chaplain for 14 years. We then opened up the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We posed the question, "Who met you with Godly empathy during a difficult time in your life?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Grace Fox’s Interview [ 46:40 ]Dr. John Mabus’ Interview [ 33:28 ]Caller’s Segment [ 08:28 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “Best of 1 Peter.” Dr. Jim Coakley joined us to unpack 1 Peter 2 and explain how believers can live as sojourners, submit to authority, and honor God in a watching world. Dr. Coakley is a professor of Bible at Moody Bible Institute and has authored several books, including “14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible.” We then had Dr. Eric Redmond join us to unpack 1 Peter 1 and explain how believers can set their hope fully on Christ and pursue holiness even in a hostile world. Dr. Redmond is a Professor of Bible at Moody Bible Institute, and he is the Executive Director of Moody’s Theological Seminary Center for Compelling Biblical Preaching. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Jim Coakley [ 23:15 ]Dr. Eric Redmond [ 35:42 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, the team was out for Memorial Day, but they left some great content to help you take your next step with Jesus. Karl and Ally talked with Dr. Erwin Lutzer, Pastor Emeritus of Moody Church, about understanding prayer. The team also spoke with Abdu Murray, speaker, author, and attorney, about apologetics. Have a blessed Memorial Day.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “Redeeming Time.” Dr. Michael Rydelnik joined us to explain why rising Jew hatred must be called what it is, why believers should pray for the Jewish people, and how we can redeem every opportunity for the Lord. Dr. Rydelnik is the Professor Emeritus of Jewish Studies and Bible and the Adjunct Professor in the undergraduate program at Moody Bible Institute. Lana Silk also joined us to explain why Iran’s regime should not be trusted in negotiations, how the people are being pressured under the ceasefire, and how Transform Iran is preparing for open doors. Lana is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Transform Iran. Then we had Shawna Beyer join us to share how online shopping can waste time and reveal deeper lies, and how God’s truth helps renew our minds. Shawna is the host of the Jody and Shawna podcast. We then opened up the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We posed the question, "What has been the black hole for time in your life, and how have you found victory?" We invited our listeners to the “Redeem Time” Challenge to encourage you to use your time more intentionally and spiritually, focusing on productivity, purpose, rest, and honoring God, rather than wasting it. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Dr. Michael Rydelnik [ 43:43 ]
Lana Silk [ 13:04 ]Shawna Beyer [ 36:05 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Redeeming Time.” Laurie Davies joined us to explain how emotional hoarding can keep us stuck, and how God helps us let go of the hurt, regret, and bitterness we’ve been holding on to. Laurie is a former journalist and women’s ministry director and has written the book, “Emotional Hoarding: Letting Go of the Stuff That Keeps You Stuck.” We then had Kathi Lipp join to explain how clutter can keep us stuck in fear, guilt, and shame, and how small steps can help us move toward freedom. Kathi is the host of “Clutter Free Academy the Podcast!”, and author of "Ready for Anything: Preparing Your Heart and Home for Any Crisis, Big or Small." We invited our listeners to the “Redeem Time” Challenge to encourage you to use your time more intentionally and spiritually, focusing on productivity, purpose, rest, and honoring God, rather than wasting it. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Ally's Q&A [ 13:01 ]
Kathi Lipp [ 22:37 ]Laurie Davies [ 34:47 ]Make it a Metaphor [ 46:10 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Redeeming Time.” Dan Seaborn joined us to explain how unredeemed time can reveal deeper worries and fears, and how asking God for wisdom helps us face what we’re avoiding. Dan founded Winning At Home, an organization that encourages marriages and families, and is a leader for the Marriage & Family Division of the AACC. Then Joshua Becker joined us to explain how uncluttering our lives can help us choose what matters most, focus on Christ, and use our time and resources for eternal impact. Joshua is the founder and editor of Becoming Minimalist, a website dedicated to inspiring others to find more life by owning less. He also has authored “Uncluttered Faith: Own Less, Love More, and Make an Impact in Your World.” We invited our listeners to the “Redeem Time” Challenge to encourage you to use your time more intentionally and spiritually, focusing on productivity, purpose, rest, and honoring God, rather than wasting it. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dan Seaborn’s Interview [ 08:32 ]Joshua Becker’s Interview [ 39:53 ]Ally thinks it's funny [ 57:37 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Redeeming Time.” Alex McFarland joined us to explain how redeeming time includes honoring God with our rest, responsibilities, and priorities while staying attentive to the Holy Spirit’s leading. Alex is a Christian apologist, author, evangelist, religion and culture analyst, national talk show host, and a youth expert. We also had Drew Dyck join us to explain how distractions steal our time and how Scripture, habits, and God’s grace help us redeem it for what matters. Drew is an acquisitions editor with Moody Publishers and a contributing editor for Christianity Today for Pastors. He is the author of “Your Future Self Will Thank You: Secrets to Self-Control from the Bible and Brain Science.” We invited our listeners to the “Redeem Time” Challenge to encourage you to use your time more intentionally and spiritually, focusing on productivity, purpose, rest, and honoring God, rather than wasting it. We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “What was that thing you were procrastinating on that God gave you victory to overcome?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Alex McFarland [ 19:41 ]Drew Dyck [ 41:37 ]Caller Segment [ 58:04 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “redeeming time.” Tim Challies joined us to explain how redeeming our time is rooted in honoring God and serving others, not just getting more done. Tim is a pastor, speaker, blogger, and author of “Do More Better: A Practical Guide to Productivity.” Shaunti Feldhahn joined us to explain how finding balance starts with taking on Christ’s yoke and living according to the way God designed us. Shaunti is a best-selling author, podcaster, blogger, and popular speaker. She has written, “Find Balance: Thriving in a Do-It-All World.” Here is a challenge to encourage you to use your time more intentionally and spiritually, focusing on productivity, purpose, rest, and honoring God, rather than wasting it. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Shaunti Feldhahn’s Interview [ 21:29 ]Tim Challies’ Interview [ 48:32 ]

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Today on "Karl and Crew," we concluded our weekly theme, “Sticking with It When.” Karl Vaters joined us to discuss why the health of a church should not be measured by size alone, and how small churches can thrive in terms of faithfulness, impact, and community. Karl has dedicated over 40 years to small-church ministry and creates resources to help these smaller congregations succeed. We also welcomed Ed Cannon, who spoke about the Far East Broadcasting Company (FEBC) and its use of radio and digital media to spread the hope of Jesus in hard-to-reach areas. This effort fosters trusted relationships with listeners around the world. Ed serves as the President and CEO of FEBC. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Ed Cannon’s Interview [ 30:14 ]Karl Vaters’ Interview [ 14:43 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Sticking with it when,” others say walk away. Dr. Sharen Ford joined us to explain what foster care is often misunderstood, why children in foster care need safe and loving families, and how the church can step in to help. Dr. Ford serves as the Director for Foster Care and Adoption at Focus on the Family, committed to raising awareness regarding the need for every child to have a quality family. We then had Vikki Rose join us. She is the Author of “Every Reason to Leave,” which shares how God met her in a broken marriage, changed both her and her husband, and gave them the grace to stay together. We also had Dr. Hormoz Shariat join us to share why many Iranians still long for regime change, how Christians are suffering under intense pressure, and how the gospel continues to spread in Iran. Dr. Shariat is the Founder and President of Iran Alive Ministries (IAM), which uses satellite broadcasting and the internet to share the gospel with Iranians. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Dr. Sharen Ford [ 46:17 ]
Vikki Rose [ 20:27 ]
Dr. Hormoz Shariat [ 07:26 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Sticking with it when…” exploring prayer. Dr. Bill Thrasher joined us to discuss how to tell if our prayer life is dead or disconnected, and how the Holy Spirit helps bring it back to life. Dr. Thrasher is a lead professor in the Master's program in Spiritual Formation and Discipleship at Moody Bible Institute and has written “How to Resurrect a Dead Prayer Life.” We then had Dr. Eric Scalise join us to explain how Hope for the Heart is using AI to offer biblical guidance on life’s hardest questions and to point people toward deeper care and support. Dr. Scalise is the President and Chief Strategy Officer for Hope for the Heart, an international counseling ministry. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Bill Thrasher’s Interview [ 26:56 ]Dr. Eric Scalise’s Interview [ 47:27 ]Ally’s Jokes [ 56:31 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Sticking with it when…” exploring how to heal after experiencing church hurt. Lina Abujamra joined us to explain how pain and church hurt can tempt us toward self-sufficiency, and why we still need Jesus and His people to keep standing in faith. Lina is the founder of Living with Power Ministries and has written “Still Standing: Following Jesus Even When It Hurts.” We then had Jonathan Griffiths join us to explain a few reasons people may be neglecting to attend church in person and why gathering in a local church aligns with God’s plans. Jonathan leads Encounter the Truth, a ministry that broadcasts religious programming on radio and broadcast. He also wrote, “Gathered for Good: God’s Good Design for the Local Church.” We also had Chip Ingram join us to discuss how to mirror the love of Christ to others. He is the CEO and Teaching Pastor of Living on the Edge. We then turn to the phone lines to hear from our listeners regarding the question, “How has the church shown up for you when you needed them the most?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Lina Abujamra’s Interview [ 07:51 ]Jonathan Griffiths’ Interview [ 24:51 ]Callers Segment [ 38:10 ]Chip Ingram’s Interview [ 55:05 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “Sticking with it when,” with a focus on family conflict. Dr. Kathy Koch joined us to explain how parents can navigate conflict with adult children while learning to support them without over-parenting and keep their hope in God. Dr. Koch is the Founder and CEO of Celebrate Kids, Inc. and the author of several books, including “Resolve Conflict and Find Peace and Hope with Adult Children.” Cody Kimmel joined us to explain a grace-based blueprint for parenting, showing how God's love and guidance can shape how we raise our kids at every stage. Cody is the Executive Director of Grace Based Families, a ministry focused on encouraging and equipping families at every stage of life. Ally gives a short devotion, walking us through Acts one. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Ally’s Devotion [ 00:51 ]
Dr. Kathy Koch’s Interview [ 16:59 ]
Cody Kimmel’s Interview [ 39:30 ]

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Today, we conclude our theme "Preparation Week." Kathi Lipp, clutter-free expert, podcaster, and author, shared from her book, "Ready for Anything: Preparing Your Heart and Home for Any Crisis, Big or Small." Kelli Worrall, MBI Professor of Communications and Field Chair for the Music and Media Arts Division, discussed her book, "Pierced and Embraced." What are the unique, powerful, and complex ways in which Jesus loves the women of the Gospels? Dr. Winfred Neely, Professor Emeritus and retired Dean of MBI Theological Seminary, helped us unpack Matthew 25 and the parable of the 10 virgins. How can we be spiritually prepared for Jesus' second coming? You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Interview with Kelli Worrall [7:02]

Interview with Dr. Winfred Neely [20:18]

Interview with Kathy Lipp [49:05]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of “Preparation” with conversations about how to engage in gospel conversations and in apologetics. We had Abdu Murray join us to discuss the importance of being prepared to share your faith and how to prepare. Abdu is a speaker, author, and attorney who specializes in addressing issues where religious faith and emerging cultural trends intersect and collide. He is also the President of Embrace the Truth. Then we had Dr. Jonathan Morrow join us to discuss the subtle shift in Christian students' disengagement from their faith in college and how to prevent it. Dr. Morrow is an author, speaker, and professor. He is the Director of Cultural Engagement and Student Discipleship for Impact 360 Institute and is passionate about helping a new generation of Christ-followers. He has also authored several books, including “Welcome to College: A Christ-Centered Guide to Lasting Faith.” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:

Abdu Murray Interview [10:44]

Dr. Jonathan Morrow Interview [29:54]

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We continue "Preparation Week" on Karl and Crew today. Best-selling author, speaker, and love-language expert Dr. Gary Chapman joins us with encouragement for parents. We highlighted his books, "Things I Wish I'd Known Before We Became Parents" and "Things I Wish I'd Known Before My Child Became a Teenager." Also, author Daniel Henderson discussed his book "Defying Gravity," which helps those prepping and surviving in ministry. Daniel is also the Founder and President of Strategic Renewal International and Global Director for The 6:4 Fellowship pastoral ministry. You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Staying ready to do good works [0:00]

Interview with Dr. Gary Chapman [14:02]

Interview with Daniel Henderson [33:12]

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Today, we begin "Preparation Week" on Karl and Crew. Are we prepared to fight spiritual battles? Great discussion and insight with Dr. Karl Payne, pastor, teacher, author, and renowned apologist. He is the author of "Spiritual Warfare: Christians, Demonization, and Deliverance." Dr. Payne is also the founder of the Transferable Cross Training Foundation. Lead Pastor of Church in the City (Nashville) and former bass player, Matt Smallbone, talks about his new book, "The Prayer Experiment: How Praying Like Jesus Realigns Everything." He shared his experience of intentionally praying the Lord's Prayer every day for a year. Finally, our best preparation in battle is the Armor of God! We shared a special resource by texting ARMOR to 800-555-7898. You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Being Prepared for spiritual battle [0:00]

Conversation with Matt Smallbone on the prayer experiment [25:00]

Conversation with Dr. Karl Payne on spiritual warfare [35:34]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme of “What are you looking for?” with Morgan Krueger, who discussed the importance of keeping God the focal point and giving Him glory always, not taking it for ourselves. Morgan is a wife, mother, speaker, and author who found her voice connecting with women seeking biblical freedom from the brokenness of shame. Morgan has also written a book called “Made to Magnify: Choosing to Live for Jesus When Everything Tells You to Live for Yourself.” Then we had Dr. Elizabeth Smith join us to discuss what we should be doing in our free time and how to intentionally fill it, as well as our kids' free time. She also spoke about available classes through Moody Online. Dr. Smith is the Associate Dean of Academics for Moody Online and the Program Head of Children and Family Ministry. She is also a Professor for Moody Online and on the Chicago campus. You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:

Spiritual Treasure Hunt [0:00]

Elizabeth Smith [24:14]

Morgan Kreuger [35:40]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, "What are you looking for?" We had York Moore join us to share how his search for meaning as an atheist college student led him to Christ, and why he believes this generation is hungry for Jesus in a powerful way. York is the President, CEO, and National Evangelist of the Coalition for Christian Outreach. He is a gifted speaker, revivalist, and author of several books, including Do Something Beautiful. Dr. Adam Rasmussen joined us to explain why many lack biblical alignment between what they believe and how they live, and how discipleship can help close that gap. Dr. Rasmussen is a fellow at the Cultural Research Center and Dean of the College of Arts and Humanities at Arizona Christian University. With over three decades in Christian education, he has taught on biblical literacy, apologetics, and worldview formation, helping connect faith, reason, and culture. We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “How did you go from ‘Spiritual but not religious’ to a follower of Jesus Christ?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Acts 17 [ 00:00 ]
Caller Segment [ 19:42 ]Dr. Adam Rasmussen [ 24:54 ]
York Moore’s Interview [ 35:13 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off a new theme, "What are you looking for?" Our guests included Anne Graham Lotz and her daughter Rachel-Ruth Lotz Wright. They've written a book called "God Won't Leave You There: Joseph's Story." It shows how God turns trials into purpose. Career advisor, speaker, and author Robert Dickie III joined us as well. He offered encouragement and advice when looking for a career change. Also, Chip Ingram, pastor, author, and CEO & Teaching Pastor of Living on the Edge, shared from his book, "I Choose Joy." Joy is a daily choice through life...even if, and God can give you that strength. Finally, we had some fun taking calls about the things we seem to look for most around the house, like keys, cell phones, socks, and more! You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Listener calls on commonly lost items [6:11]

Interview with Robert Dickie [30:15]

Interview with Anne Graham Lotz and Rachel-Ruth Lotz Wright [42:55]

Interview with Chip Ingram [59:44]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “I Can’t Change Because…,” by examining the excuses we make and how God calls us beyond them. Heather Otis Tayloe joined us to explain the reality of spiritual warfare, how the enemy works to pull believers off course, and why God’s Word is our weapon for standing firm. Heather has served in international missionary radio for nearly forty years alongside her husband and has led Bible study and prayer ministries for over a decade. She has authored numerous biblical studies and The Saboteur: Agent of Subterfuge and Subversive Stratagems. We then had Marita Littauer join us to explain how personality types can help us understand our strengths and weaknesses, while reminding us that they are not an excuse to stay stuck but a starting point to grow more like Christ. Marita is a speaker, author, and blogger known for her work on personality studies. She has written over 20 books, including her best-selling title Wired That Way, and continues to teach and speak on understanding personalities. We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “What excuse did you finally give up that ultimately led to freedom in Christ?" You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Heather Otis Tayloe's Interview [ 38:10 ]
Marita Littauer's Interview [ 25:15 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “I Can’t Change Because…,” by examining the excuses we make and how God calls us beyond them. Drew Dyck joined us to explain how self-control isn’t something we force on our own but a fruit of the Spirit, and how small, intentional habits and a God-centered vision help us grow in lasting change. Drew Dyck is an acquisitions editor at Moody Publishers and a contributing editor for Christianity Today for Pastors. He is a former managing editor of Leadership Journal and the author of several books, including Your Future Self Will Thank You. We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “What has God shown you that has helped you get some victory over your phone or technology usage?" You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Drew Dyck’s Interview [ 00:51 ]Caller Segment [ 13:51 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “I Can’t Change Because…,” by examining the excuses we make and how God calls us beyond them. Dr. Jim Coakley joined us to discuss the excuse, “I can’t change because I believe the Bible is hard or it feels dry to me,” and explain how reading the Bible only for information can keep it from changing us and how new approaches can help bring it to life. Dr. Jim Coakley is a Professor of Bible at Moody Bible Institute and a regular writer for the Today in the Word devotional. He is an Israel tour expert and a current Elder at 180 Chicago Church. He is also the author of 14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible. We then had Dr. Sandra Dalton-Smith join us to discuss the excuse “I can’t change because I feel too tired” and explain how true rest goes beyond sleep, and how different types of exhaustion can keep us from making real change. Dr. Dalton-Smith is a board-certified internal medicine physician, international speaker, and CEO of Restorasis, a workplace well-being consulting agency. She is the award-winning author of Sacred Rest: Recover Your Life, Renew Your Energy, Restore Your Sanity and host of the I Choose My Best Life podcast. She is also the creator of the 7 Types of Rest framework. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Jim Coakley’s Interview [ 20:23 ]Dr. Sandra Dalton-Smith’s Interview [ 35:07 ]
Ally Thinks Its Funny [ 48:16 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “I Can’t Change Because…,” about the excuses we use. Today, we focused on the excuse, “I can’t change because my environment makes it impossible,” looking at Psalm 1:1–3. Dr. Douglas Small joined us to talk about what it will take to see a spiritual awakening, calling believers back to prayer, unity, and a renewed relationship with Christ. Dr. Small is the President and Executive Director of Prayer at the Heart (PATH), a ministry focused on mobilizing believers in prayer across the nation. He has carried a long-standing vision to see unified prayer movements lead to spiritual awakening and revival. We then had Dr. Henry Cloud join us to explain how biblical boundaries help us take responsibility for our own responses instead of blaming others for our lack of change. Dr. Cloud is a leadership expert, clinical psychologist, and New York Times bestselling author. He has written more than 40 books, including “Boundaries,” which has sold millions of copies worldwide. He also works as a leadership consultant and executive coach, helping leaders and organizations improve performance and culture. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Henry Cloud’s Interview [ 07:40 ]Dr. Douglas Small’s Interview [ 45:15 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “I Can’t Change Because…,” about the excuses we use. Today, we focused on the excuse, “I can’t change because I’m too busy,” looking at Psalm 90:12. Dan Seaborn joined us to explain why real change does not start with others, but with humility and surrender in our own hearts. Dan is the founder of Winning At Home, Inc., an organization dedicated to strengthening marriages and families, and currently leads the Marriage and Family Division of the AACC. He is an international speaker and author of 12 books, including “Winning at Home” and “Parenting with Grace and Truth.” Jim Daly joined us to share how God redeemed his broken childhood and shaped his passion for helping families thrive. Jim is the President and CEO of Focus on the Family and host of the daily “Focus on the Family” broadcast. He also hosts “The ReFocus Podcast” and is the author of several books, including “The Good Dad” and “ReFocus: Living a Life that Reflects God’s Heart.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Jim Daly’s Interview [ 42:44 ]Dan Seaborn’s Interview [ 25:21 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “What If,” by focusing on the questions, “What if your prayers are not heard?” and “What if you are not born again but assume you are?” Karl talked about why our prayers may go unanswered and what may be hindering our connection with God. He also talked about how someone can assume they belong to Christ because of outward appearance or religious activity, yet still lack a genuine relationship with Him and the new life that comes through true faith. Omer Eshel joined us to discuss the reality of living in Israel under constant threat, the spiritual roots of the conflict, and how a biblical perspective shapes understanding and response. Omer is the CEO and Co-founder of The Bible Comes to Life Travel and Educational Center in Israel. He previously served as Israel Tourism Consul Director and Israel Ministry of Tourism Midwest Regional Director. He is a certified Israel tour guide and former Israel Ministry of Tourism regional director, and majored in biblical history and geography. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Omer Eshel’s Interview [ 26:16 ]Karl’s response [ 00:50 and 39:06]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “What If,” by focusing on the question, “What if you knew why you do what you do?” Philip Miller joined us to discuss identity in Christ, how we fall into “orphan-hearted” living, and why we often look to the wrong things for significance, security, and satisfaction. Philip is the Senior Pastor of The Moody Church in Chicago and can be heard on “The Moody Church Hour” and “Living Hope” radio programs. He began his ministry at Chuck Swindoll’s Stonebriar Community Church and now leads a vibrant congregation in the city. We then had Greg Dempster join us to discuss how past experiences form “governing ideas” that shape our lives, and how renewing our minds in Christ helps close the gap between what we believe about God and how we live. Greg is the Founder and Director of ChristLife Ministries and has served in full-time pastoral ministry for over two decades. He has been a senior leader and ministry director, helping equip believers to live out their faith with authenticity and freedom. We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “ If your life story was made into a movie, what would the title be?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Philip Miller’s Interview [ 07:13 ]Greg Dempster’s Interview [ 21:15 ]Caller’s Segment [ 38:19 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “What If,” with Dr. Jared Nelms and Dr. John Dickson. Dr. Jared Nelms joined us to discuss Titus 2, what true discipleship looks like through the grace of God, and how it calls us not just to know the truth, but to live it out. Dr. Nelms is the President and CEO of The Timothy Initiative, leading efforts to plant churches in unreached regions by training indigenous leaders. He previously served as a missionary in India and has extensive experience in global ministry across Asia and Africa. We then had Dr. John Dickson join us to discuss who Flavius Josephus was, the writings he left behind, and how new findings support the Testimonium Flavianum as a legitimate reference to Jesus. Dr. Dickson is an author, speaker, historian, and media presenter, and serves as the Jean Kvamme Distinguished Professor of Biblical Studies and Public Christianity at Wheaton College. He has published more than 20 books and hosts the Undeceptions podcast, one of Australia’s top Christian podcasts with a growing global audience. We then turned to the text messages to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “What is your next step of obedience? What is God calling you to walk away from today?” We prayed for everyone who responded, asking God to strengthen them in obedience and lead them by His grace. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Jared Nelms [ 44:12 ]Dr. John Dickson [ 25:47 ]
Text Segment [ 00:52 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “Hope Rising,” with conversations about how we find hope in every aspect of life. Lana Silk joined us to share what’s really happening in Iran during the ceasefire, why it is concerning, and how believers are holding onto hope in Christ despite intense persecution. Lana is the President and CEO of Transform Iran, with over 20 years of experience in marketing and a passion for helping voices be heard. Born in Iran and educated in the UK, she has also served in ministry as a worship leader and college chaplain with a focus on youth and mental health. We then had Dr. Winfred Neely join us to discuss the danger of spiritual plateauing, the call to keep growing in Christ, and finding true hope in Jesus rather than in our own feelings. Dr. Neely is the retired Vice President and Academic Dean of Moody Theological Seminary and serves as Professor Emeritus of Old Testament, Biblical Interpretation, and Preaching at Moody Bible Institute. He has pastored several churches in the Chicago area, served as a missionary pastor to Senegal, and teaches globally through ministry and conferences. He is the author of “How to Overcome Worry – Experiencing the Peace of God in Every Situation.” We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “Do you have a time recently where you’ve plateaued in an area spiritually, and the Holy Spirit showed you what needed to change?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Lana Silk’s Interview [ 03:06 ]Dr. Winfred Neely [ 31:52 ]Callers Segment [ 47:57 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Hope Rising,” with conversations about how we find hope in every aspect of life. Leonard Tinnell joined us to share his story of going from a life without hope to finding hope in Christ, and how God’s faithfulness does not always change our circumstances right away, but works over time to fulfill His purpose. Leonard is a pastor and church planter at Reach City Church, an apologist, and an emerging theologian based in Cleveland, Ohio. He also holds a Bachelor of Science in Religion with a minor in Biblical Studies and a Master of Arts in Christian Apologetics from Liberty University. Kathi Lipp joined us to share how overwhelming seasons can drain our hope, how she held on to hope through God’s Word, prayer, and community, and how addressing clutter can bring peace and clarity to everyday life. Kathi is an author, speaker, blogger, and host of “Clutter Free Academy the Podcast!” She also runs the Facebook group “Clutter Free Academy.” She is the author of “Clutter Free” and “The Get Yourself Organized Project.” We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “Were you ever in a hopeless situation, clung to God, and watched Him provide?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Leonard Tanks Jr [ 25:31 ]Kathi Lipp [ 09:37 ]Caller Segment [ 50:15 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Hope Rising,” with conversations about how we find hope in every aspect of life. Today, we focused on the hope, joy, and peace that come from trusting in God, based on Romans 15:13. J. Warner Wallace joined us to share how applying cold-case detective skills to the Gospels reveals compelling evidence for Christianity and a hope that is grounded in truth. Wallace is a Dateline-featured cold-case homicide detective, bestselling author, and national speaker. He is also a Christian apologist, Senior Fellow at the Colson Center, and adjunct professor of apologetics at Talbot School of Theology, Gateway Seminary, and Southern Evangelical Seminary. Learn more at Cold-Case Christianity. We then had Jill Savage join us to share how unrealistic expectations and misplaced hope contributed to deep disappointment in her marriage, and how holding on to hope in Christ led to healing and restoration. Jill Savage is an author, blogger, international speaker, and leads the ministry Hearts at Home. She also hosts the “No More Perfect” podcast and wrote “No More Perfect Marriages: Experience the Freedom of Being Real Together.” We also had some fun with “Ally Thinks It’s Funny.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Jill Savage [ 29:12 ]J. Warner Wallace [ 45:49 ]
Ally's Joke [ 1:04:12 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continue our weekly theme, “Hope Rising,” with conversations about how we find hope in every aspect of life. Today, we focused on suffering, specifically Romans 5:1–5. Susie Larson joined us to discuss how God uses suffering to build character, why it is part of the Christian life, and the difference between holy lament and dark sorrow. Susie is the host of “Susie Larson Live,” a national speaker, and a bestselling author. We then had Abdu Murray join us to discuss his journey from Islam to Christianity, what it cost him, and what makes Christianity fundamentally different from every other religion. Abdu is a speaker, author, and attorney who addresses issues where religious faith and emerging cultural trends intersect. He is the President of Embrace the Truth. We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “What character did God produce in you through suffering that gives you hope?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Susie Larson [ 37:39 ]Abdu Murray [ 06:39 ]Caller Segment [ 21:39 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “Hope Rising—How We Find Hope in Every Aspect of Life,” with Dr. Drew Dickens, Arlene Pellicane, David Nelms, and Dr. Crawford Loritts. Dr. Drew Dickens joined us to discuss how to navigate the rise of AI with discernment, pointing us back to Jesus as our ultimate source of truth and hope. Dr. Dickens is a visionary leader, AI expert, and scholar who has contributed significantly to the intersection of technology, spirituality, and faith-based engagement. His groundbreaking dissertation explored the impact of generative AI on spiritual direction, and he is the founder of the Encountering Peace app and the Encounter Podcast, helping deepen people’s spiritual lives and their encounter with God amid the chaos of life. Arlene Pellicane also joined us to remind us that when our hopes for our families feel broken, Jesus meets us in that place and restores our hope. She also shared how we can be wise with technology. Arlene is a speaker, author, and host of the Happy Home podcast. She is a marriage and parenting expert and has written several books, including “Growing Up Social,” “Screen Kids,” and “Calm, Cool, and Connected.” She has appeared in major media outlets, including the Today Show, Focus on the Family, Fox & Friends, FamilyLife Today, and The Wall Street Journal. David Nelms joined us to discuss how to be satisfied with Jesus and Jesus alone. David serves as the founder of The Timothy Initiative. Dr. Crawford Loritts also joined us to discuss how to recognize the root of sin and become free. He is a pastor and the founder of Beyond Our Generation. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Arlene Pellicane’s Interview [ 24:21 ]Dr. Drew Dickens’s Interview [ 05:46 ]David Nelms’ Interview [ 58:36 ]Dr. Crawford Loritts’ Interview [ 01:14:30 ]

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This Morning, on Karl and Crew, the team is out for Good Friday, but they left behind some amazing Freedom Friday content for you! Hear how listeners came to Christ after already being in church and going through the religious motions.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Holy Week,” with Dr. Michael Rydelnik, Dr. James Coakley, and Todd Nettleton. Dr. Michael Rydelnik joined us to discuss how Jesus is the Passover Lamb and why we must reconnect Easter to its roots in Passover and the story of redemption. Dr. Rydelnik is Professor Emeritus of Jewish Studies and Bible at Moody Bible Institute and host of Open Line on Moody Radio. A Bible teacher specializing in the Hebrew Bible, the Jewish people, Israel, and biblical prophecy, he is also the author of “50 Most Important Bible Questions,” “The Messianic Hope,” and “How Should Christians Think About Israel?” Dr. James Coakley joined us to discuss how studying Scripture more deeply reveals God’s intentional work and how Jesus is in control, even in the details of Holy Week. Dr. Coakley is Professor of Bible in the Bible and Theology Department at Moody Bible Institute, where he received the Faculty Citation Award in 2025. He is also a current elder at 180 Chicago Church and a former senior pastor. He is the author of “14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible,” a Christianity Today 2024 Book Award winner, and a regular writer for Today in the Word. Todd Nettleton joined us to share what Holy Week is like for persecuted Christians around the world. Todd Nettleton is Vice President of Message for The Voice of the Martyrs-USA and host of The Voice of the Martyrs Radio, a ministry serving persecuted Christians around the world. During more than 25 years with VOM, he has interviewed hundreds of persecuted Christians in more than 30 nations. He is also the author of “When Faith Is Forbidden.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Dr. Michael Rydelnik’s Interview [ 07:09 ]
Todd Nettleton’s Interview [ 28:49 ]
Dr. James Coakley’s Interview [ 40:26 ] Ally's Jokes [ 53:15 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Holy Week,” by reflecting on the hope we have in Christ and the power of the cross in our everyday lives. Colin Smith joined us to discuss how Easter reveals our need for a Savior and the grace of salvation through faith in Jesus. Colin is Senior Pastor Emeritus of The Orchard Evangelical Free Church. He is also the founder and teacher of the daily radio program “Open the Bible,” which airs weekday mornings on Moody Radio at 9:00 a.m. CT. He is the author of many books, including “Heaven, How I Got Here: The Story of the Thief on the Cross.” Dr. Bill Thrasher also joined us to discuss how to intentionally grow closer to God during Easter by understanding the power of the cross and living honestly before Him. Dr. Thrasher has served on the faculty of Moody Bible Institute since 1980 and is the Lead Professor in the master’s program in Spiritual Formation and Discipleship at MBI. He is also a frequent speaker across the country and the author of several books, including “A Journey to Victorious Praying: Finding Discipline and Delight in Your Prayer Life.” We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “When did Jesus capture your love for Him?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Colin Smith’s Interview [ 05:57 ]
Dr. Bill Thrasher’s Interview [ 21:25 ]
Callers [ 41:32 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “Holy Week,” with Dr. Erwin Lutzer and Dr. Hormoz Shariat. Dr. Erwin Lutzer joined us to discuss the seven cries from the cross and what they reveal about Jesus’ mercy, suffering, humanity, and obedience. He also talked about how Christ understands human weakness and how He alone can satisfy our deepest spiritual thirst. Dr. Lutzer is Pastor Emeritus of The Moody Church, where he served as Senior Pastor for 36 years. He is also the featured speaker on “Running to Win” and “Songs in the Night” and is the author of “Cries from the Cross.” Dr. Hormoz Shariat also joined us to discuss what is happening in Iran politically and spiritually, and how many Iranians are turning to Christ in the midst of suffering and persecution. Dr. Shariat is the founder and president of Iran Alive Ministries, which seeks to reach Iranians with the gospel. An Iranian Muslim convert, he has ministered among Muslim-born Iranians for more than 40 years and holds a Ph.D. in Artificial Intelligence from the University of Southern California and a B.A. in Bible and Theology from Jessup University. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Dr. Erwin Lutzer’s Interview [ 23:59 ]

Dr. Hormoz Shariat’s Interview [ 45:49 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme, “End Times Week and AI,” with Ruslan KD and Nick Skytland. Ruslan KD joined us to discuss godly ambition and how to pursue purpose and calling in a way that honors God. Ruslan is a Christian YouTuber, podcaster, and entrepreneur known for his thought-provoking commentary on faith, culture, and personal development. A former independent artist, he transitioned into digital media, where he creates content that bridges biblical wisdom with real-world issues. He is the founder of The God Bless Movement and author of the book “Godly Ambition: Unlocking the Full Potential of Your Time, Talent, and Treasure.” He is also preparing to kick off The Godly Ambition Tour in Chicago on April 10. Through his YouTube channels, Ruslan KD and Bless God Studios, he explores topics such as apologetics, cultural trends, and practical stewardship, inspiring audiences to live with purpose and intentionality. Nick Skytland also joined us to discuss how AI is shaping us and why believers should approach it with a biblical worldview. Nick is Vice President of Gloo Developer and AI Research, leading initiatives to shape open, values-aligned AI that supports human flourishing. Before joining Gloo, he spent more than two decades at NASA as Chief Technologist, advancing early-stage technologies and building some of the largest open innovation communities in history. He co-authored the book “What Comes Next? Shaping the Future in an Ever-Changing World.” Nick was also the co-founder of Quite Uncommon, a technology firm that helped organizations build, test, and launch new and innovative ideas. We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “what did God use to grab you heart and transform your soul?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Nick Skytland [ 05:18 ]Ruslan KD [ 39:34 ]Callers Question [ 56:05 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “End Times Week and AI,” with Dr. Sam Storms and Jason Thacker. Dr. Sam Storms joined us to discuss whether events in the Middle East are a reflection of prophecy and how believers should respond to the end times with self-control, unity, and a focus on the gospel. Dr. Storms is the founder and president of Enjoying God Ministries and serves on the Council of The Gospel Coalition and as Executive Director of the Convergence Church Network. He also served as Visiting Associate Professor of Theology at Wheaton College in Wheaton, Illinois, and is a past president of the Evangelical Theological Society. Jason Thacker also joined us to discuss how believers should think about AI through a biblical lens. Jason serves as Assistant Professor of Philosophy and Ethics at Boyce College and Southern Seminary in Louisville, Kentucky. He is the author of several books, including “Following Jesus in the Digital Age” and “The Age of AI: Artificial Intelligence and the Future of Humanity.” He was also the project leader and lead drafter of “Artificial Intelligence: An Evangelical Statement of Principles.” He is also a Director of the research institute at The Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission. We then turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners. We asked the question, “What topic have you most benefited from hearing about on Moody Radio?” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:Jason Thacker’s Interview [ 00:53 ]Callers Question [ 16:15 ]
Dr. Sam Storm’s Interview [ 23:37 ]
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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “End Times Week and AI,” with Dr. Charlie Dyer, David Szafranski, and Dr. Wayne Grudem. Dr. Charlie Dyer joined us to discuss how current events in the Middle East point toward the end times and how to stay grounded in God’s Word without fear. Dr. Dyer served for thirty-three years on the faculty and in the administration of three different institutions, including twenty years at Dallas Theological Seminary and ten years as Provost of Moody Bible Institute. He is the host of “The Land and the Book” radio program and is a licensed guide who leads groups to Israel and other biblical lands. David Szafranski also joined us to discuss seeing life beyond retirement as a continued calling to live with purpose and serve God. You can find more of his insight in his new book, “The Sin of Retirement.” He is the President and Founder of Edgewater Investment Group and host of the podcast “Financial Revelations,” with more than thirty years of experience managing money for individuals. Dr. Wayne Grudem then joined us to talk about how believers should live with faith, obedience, and readiness in light of Christ’s possible soon return. Dr. Grudem serves as Distinguished Research Professor Emeritus of Theology and Biblical Studies at Phoenix Seminary in Arizona. He was also a member of the translation oversight committee and general editor for the English Standard Version of the Bible. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Dr. Charlie Dyer [ 03:25 ]

Wayne Grudem [ 20:23 ]

David Szafranski [ 46:19 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “End Times Week and AI,” with Dr. Michael Rydelnik, and Dr. Todd Korpi. Dr. Michael Rydelnik joined us to discuss the end times, the growing rise of antisemitism, and how believers should think biblically about Israel. Dr. Rydelnik is Professor Emeritus of Jewish Studies and Bible at Moody Bible Institute and also serves as an adjunct professor in the undergraduate program. He is the host and Bible teacher of Open Line, airing every Saturday from 9:00–11:00 a.m. CT on Moody Radio and more than 225 other stations. Dr. Todd Korpi then joined us to talk about how AI can become a distraction in the church and shift the focus away from Christ. Dr. Korpi is Missiologist in Residence at OneHope and Director of the Digital Mission Consortia at the Wheaton College Billy Graham Center. He also serves as Assistant Professor of Christian Leadership at Fuller Seminary and Dean of Digital Ministry programs at Ascent College. He is also the author of “AI Goes to Church.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Dr. Michael Rydelnik [ 29:08 ]

Dr. Todd Korpi [ 44:54]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “End Times Week and AI,” with Dr. Mark Hitchcock, Dr. Drew Dickens, and Greg Dempster. Dr. Mark Hitchcock joined us to discuss spiritual warfare, how to resist it, and how to find victory in Christ. Dr. Hitchcock serves as Associate Professor of Bible Exposition at Dallas Theological Seminary and Senior Pastor of Faith Bible Church in Edmond, Oklahoma. He has authored more than thirty books on end-times Bible prophecy, including “The End Times Survival Guide: Ten Biblical Strategies for Faith and Hope in Uncertain Days.” We then spoke with Dr. Drew Dickens about navigating global uncertainty and the rise of AI while staying grounded in hope and truth as believers. Dr. Dickens is a visionary leader, AI expert, and scholar who has contributed significantly to the intersection of technology, spirituality, and faith-based engagement. His dissertation explored the impact of generative AI on spiritual direction, and he is the founder of the Encountering Peace app and the Encounter Podcast. We also spoke with Greg Dempster about moving away from shame and self-reliance into a deeper trust in God’s love and acceptance. Greg Dempster is the founder and director of ChristLife Ministries. He has served in full-time pastoral ministry for over two decades and has experience as a senior leader, elder, and ministry director. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Dr. Mark Hitchcock’s Interview [54:47 ]

Dr. Drew Dickens [ 0:52 ]

Greg Dempster [ 17:25 ]

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Get It Off (Clutter and Time Management).” We were joined by Asheritah Ciuciu, who walked us through how to build a meaningful devotional life with God—not just gaining knowledge about Him, but developing a personal relationship with Him. Asheritah is a national speaker, bestselling author, and founder of One Thing Alone Ministries. You can find her on YouTube through Delighting in Jesus: Guided Prayers and Bible Study Tips. She is also the author of “Unwrapping the Names of Jesus: An Advent Journal.” We also spoke with Dr. Charles Stone about how to de-stress, identify negative emotions, and begin working through them. Dr. Stone recently completed his role as lead pastor of West Park Church in London, Ontario, Canada, a multicultural congregation with over a thousand attendees, and now serves as a coach consultant to pastors and leaders. He is also the author of “Stress Less: 9 Habits from the Bible and Brain Science to Build Resilience and Reduce Anxiety.” Jordan Raynor joined us to discuss how to maximize productivity in a humble, Christ-like way. Jordan is a leading voice in the faith and work movement and has helped millions connect the gospel to their work. He is the author of “Redeeming Your Time: 7 Biblical Principles for Being Purposeful, Present, and Wildly Productive.” Jordan serves as the Executive Chairman of Threshold 360, a venture-backed tech startup he previously led as CEO. He has also been selected twice as a Google Fellow and served in the White House under President George W. Bush. You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Asheritah Ciuciu [ 00:53 ]

Dr. Charles Stone [ 18:39 ]

Jordan Raynor’s Interview [ 29:48 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme, “Get It Off (Clutter and Time Management).” Dr. Nicholas Comninellis gave us a brief peek into his book, Five Bags of Gold: A Modern Parable of Wealth, Responsibility, and Eternity, asking: Are we using our position responsibly? Nicholas is the president and a professor at INMED, the Institute for International Medicine. He also practiced family medicine. Then Sadie Robertson Huff and Christian Huff told us how they maintain love for the world while facing criticism for their faith. We also talked about the upcoming new season of Duck Dynasty: The Revival and their podcast. Sadie is an author, speaker, influencer, and founder of Live Original. She is also a central member of the Duck Dynasty family. Christian is an entrepreneur, fitness coach, and influencer who created 4:8 Men, which offers workout devotionals designed to build a strong body and a strong faith. We then had our weekly segment, “Ally Thinks It’s Funny.” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Dr. Nicholas Comninellis’ Interview[ 23:04 ]

Sadie Robertson Huff and Christian Huff’s Interview [ 35:51 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “Get it Together (Clutter and Time Management),” with Eileen Koff, who discussed the importance of godly organization and using scripture to navigate it. Eileen is a sought-after speaker and a Cerified Professional Organizer. She is the 2013 NAPO-LLA award winner for “Best Green Service.” She also authored the book, “Get Organized God’s Way: Bring God’s Order into Every Area of Your Life.” Then we had Laurie Davies join us to speak about the negative impact of emotional hoarding and how to let go of the stuff that keeps you stuck. Laurie is a firm journalist and women’s ministry director. She has also written a book called “Emotional Hoarding: Letting Go of the Stuff That Keeps You Stuck.” We also honored St. Patrick, reclaiming his legacy as a story of faith, courage, and obedience, not as a holiday symbol or a day of partying. Here is more information about St. Patrick’s story. Then we turned to the phone lines to hear from listeners as we asked, “Who is a spiritual great that has left a legacy?” You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:

Eileen Koff Interview [04:19 ]

Laurie Davies Interview [20:40 ]

Listener Calls [33:40 ]

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme, “Get it Together (Clutter and Time Management),” with Drew Dyck, who discussed self-control aligned with God and resisting sin. Drew is a Aquisitions Editor with Moody Publishers and a Contributing Editor for Christianity Today for Pastors. He has also written several books, including “Your Future Self Will Thank You: Secrets to Self-Control from the Bible and Brain Science. Lana Silk joined us to provide us with an update on Iran, and Lana is the President and Chief Executive Officer of Transform Iran. Lana passionately works to help bring freedom to the people of Iran through ministry and humanitarian aid. Then we had Philip Miller join us to discuss common identity traps, which he labeled as Significant, Security, and Satisfaction. Philip is the Senior Pastor of Moody Church in Chicago. He can also be heard weekly on the Moody Church Hour radio broadcast. He can also be heard daily on the program Living Hope at 11 am CT on the Moody Network. You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast. If you're looking to hear a particular segment from the show, look at the following time stamps:

Drew Dyck Interview [13:55]

Lana Silk Interview [32:41 ]

Philip Miller Interview [48:08]

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Today is the day before our Spring SHARE begins, and we spent time praising God's power in our lives. We asked callers, "What reminds you of what you've been saved from?" One of our guests included Jed Coppenger. He is the lead pastor of First Baptist Church in Cumming, Georgia. He is also a speaker and author. We highlighted his book, "Fake Christianity: 10 Traps of an Inauthentic Faith", as we discussed the influence of counterfeit gospels in our culture. Then, we had Dr. Andy Bannister join us to discuss how to know the absolute Truth and share that Truth with someone in a loving and gentle way when there are opposing ideas. Dr. Bannister is the Director of Solas, and he speaks and teaches regularly throughout the UK, Europe, Canada, the USA, and the wider world. He addresses audiences of Christians and people of all faiths, or none, on issues related to faith, culture, politics, and society. He also hosts 2 podcasts called PEP Talk and Pod of the Gaps. He also wrote several books, including “Have you Ever Wondred?" Finally, we invited Dr. Hormoz Shariat back for more updates on the situation in Iran. Dr. Shariat is the Founder and President of Iran Alive Ministries (IAM), which uses satellite broadcasting and the internet to reach Iranians with the gospel. Dr. Shariat has been named “the Billy Graham of Iran” and “the most influential Iranian American” by Christianity Today.

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly “Ask the Experts” theme with Dr. Erwin Lutzer, who answered questions on all things prayer. Dr. Lutzer is Pastor Emeritus of Moody Church. He is also the featured speaker on two radio programs: Running to Win and Songs in the Night. He also wrote several books, including his latest book, “Why Doesn’t God Answer My Prayers?”

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On this Freedom Friday, we wrapped up our weekly “Ask the Experts” theme with J. Warner Wallace, who discussed the reliability and truth of Jesus. Warner Wallace is a Dateline featured cold-case homicide detective, national speaker, podcast host, and best-selling author. He also serves as a Senior Fellow at the Colson Center for Christian Worldview and is an adjunct professor of apologetics at Talbot School of Theology, Gateway Seminary, and Southern Evangelical Seminary. He has also authored several books, including “Cold-Case Christianity.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly “Going Under the Hood” theme by identifying some normalized things that pull us away from a relationship with our Heavenly Father. Gary L. Thomas joined the conversation as we discussed how we commit adultery when we allow these things to pull us away from God, because those “things” become our new god. Gary L. Thomas is a sought-after speaker, award-winning author, and pastor. He has also authored several books, including “Sacred Pathways: 9 Ways to Connect With God.” We also flipped to James 4:4-8, where it says that friendship with the world makes us an enemy to God and that we must resist the devil and draw near to the Lord. We then had Dr. Hormoz Shariat join us to update us on the current state of Iranian believers. Dr. Shariat is the Founder and President of Iran Alive Ministries (IAM), which uses satellite broadcasting and the internet to reach Iranians with the gospel. Dr. Shariat has been named “the Billy Graham of Iran” and “the most influential Iranian American” by Christianity Today. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly “Going Under the Hood” theme by discussing how to pray more abundantly and effectively with Dr. Sam Storm. Dr. Storm is the founder and president of Enjoying God Ministries and serves on the Council of the Gospel Coalition. He is also the Executive Director of the Convergence Church Network and has authored several books, including “Understanding Prayer: Biblical Foundations and Practical Guidance for Seeking God.” We also had Kathi Lipp join us to discuss her victory over clutter. Kathi is an author, speaker, blogger, and podcast host. Her podcast is called the Clutter Free Academy, the Podcast. She has authored several books, including “Sabbath Soup: Weekly Menus and Rhythms to Make Space for a Day of Rest.” We also discussed some helpful tips and habits to retain the truth when reading the Word. As followers of Christ, we must understand the Word because it’s our guidance, reference, and truth. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our “going under the hood” weekly theme with a discussion about the unseen spiritual disciplines that cultivate our spiritual lives. Spiritual disciplines are practices that grow and deepen our spiritual lives, such as prayer, fasting, or quiet time with the Lord. What is an unseen discipline that is most beneficial to your spiritual life? We had a few of our listeners answer this question and share their stories. We also had Dr. Ronnie Floyd join us to speak on the importance of fasting. Dr. Floyd is a speaker, author, and encourager dedicated to helping others, committed to the next generation, and empowering leaders. He is also the host of the weekly podcast called “For Leaders Podcast with Ronnie Floyd.” Dr. Bill Thrasher also joined us to provide insight into finding delight in our prayer life. Dr. Thrasher is the Lead Professor in the Master’s Program in Spiritual Formation and Discipleship at Moody Bible Institute. He is also a frequent speaker across the country. He has also written several books, including “How to Resurrect a Dead Prayer Life: Transforming Your Prayers Into a Spirit-Empowered, Life-Giving Adventure.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we discussed the importance of being rooted in the Lord and His Word. We turned to Psalm 1, which compares a child of God to a tree. A child of God is considered a tree planted by the waters, has flourishing leaves, yields fruit in their season, meditates on the word day and night, and their nourishment comes from God. The chapter then speaks about the ungodly and how its tree is weaker, taken by the wind, and will perish because it's not rooted in Him. We turned to the phone lines to hear from our listeners about the scriptures they hold onto. We also had Greg Dempter join us to talk about the disruptive emotions leaders can feel during chaos and busyness, and how inner peace comes only from God through all that noise. Greg Dempster is the Founder and Director of ChristLife Ministries, an organization that transforms Christian leaders from various denominational backgrounds. He has also been a senior leader, elder, and ministry director. We also had Asheritah CiuCiu join us to discuss the importance of intimacy with the Lord during quiet time. Asheritah is a national speaker, bestselling author, and founder of One Thing Alone Ministries, an online ministry that helps overwhelmed women find joy in Jesus. She also has a YouTube page where she has posted a video called “Delighting in Jesus: Guided Prayers and Bible Study Tips.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme of “Fathers in the Bible” by discussing the greatest father of all, God. We turned to Luke 15:11-24 to analyze the parable of the Prodigal Son, as it relates to the rejoice and warm embrace our Heavenly Father has waiting for us whenever we come to Him. Our Heavenly Father wants an intimate and devoted relationship with us all, but we have to cast away the things of the world and submit to Him as the Prodigal son did when returning to his father. We also heard from Anne Graham Lotz, who shared her memorable moments with her Dad, Billy Graham, before his passing. Anne is known for her deep biblical wisdom, as she speaks globally and was called “the best preacher in the family” by her late father. We also had Karl pop in from Burundi, East Africa, to provide us with an update on what’s going on there. Then we heard a testimony from one of the listeners in the Boom Crew, Josiah. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, Karl and Crew continued the weekly theme of “Fathers in the Bible” by discussing how God can break generational curses passed down through families. As followers of Christ, we have a Father who can deliver us from wicked patterns, so long as we turn to Him for guidance. We see this in 2 Kings 21, where we read about King Manasseh, the most wicked king in the Bible. Manasseh chose to do evil in the sight of the Lord, and after his reign, one of his sons, Amon, followed in his footsteps; however, his grandson, Josiah, broke the pattern and sought the Lord throughout his reign as king. We also heard similar stories from our listeners as they called to share how they chose a different path than their family when pursuing the Lord. We then spoke with David Stephens about the importance of discipleship with younger believers. David is a pastor, speaker, and coach with nearly 20 years of experience leading and discipling young adults. He has also authored the book “Getting It Together: 10 Lessons to Help Young Adults Live an Insanely Fruitful Life.” Dr. Michelle Watson Canfield also joined us to discuss the importance of a Father-Daughter relationship. Dr. Canfield is a licensed professional counselor, national speaker, and author. She is also the founder of The Abba Project, a nine-month group forum for dads whose daughters are in their teens and 20s. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today on Karl and Crew, we analyzed the fatherly demeanor of Jesus and Jairus in Mark Chapter 5. In verses 21-43 of the chapter, we see Jesus heal a bleeding woman and restore life to Jairus’s daughter in a nurturing and loving manner. We also see Jairus's unwavering faith as he patiently trusts Jesus’s healing power over his daughter. Then we had Ann Wilson join us to provide some insight on the importance of affirming your partner in marriage. Ann and her husband, Dave, are the co-hosts of Family Life Today, which airs weekly at 11 am on 90.1 FM. They’ve been married for over 44 years and have spent three decades teaching and mentoring couples and parents nationally. The duo has also authored several books, including “How to Speak to Your Husband When All You Want to Do Is Yell at Him.” We also had a surprise phone call from Karl, who is working with other Pastors in Burundi, East Africa. Then we had Chris Fabry join us. Chris is an award-winning author and radio personality. He is also the host of Chris Fabry Live and the co-host of Building Relationships with Dr. Gary Chapman. He has also authored over 80 books. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of Fathers in the Bible as we flipped to Exodus 18 to analyze Moses and his father-in-law, Jethro, as father-figures. We saw how Jethro provided counsel to Moses regarding his leadership, and because of the context of their relationship and who Jethro was, Moses was humble and receptive to it. Often, God places father-figures in our lives to help guide and counsel us because they may have experience or wisdom in areas we may not. We turned to the phone lines to hear about the father-figures in the lives of our listeners and how they impacted their lives. We also had Ron Deal join us to discuss the role and significance of a non-biological father figure, the step-dad. Ron is a best-selling author, licensed marriage and family therapist, podcaster, and popular conference speaker. He is also the Founder and President of Smart Stepfamilies and Director of Blended, a division of Family Life. Ron has authored several books, including “The Smart Stepdad.” Janet Parshall also joined us in analyzing the worldview of the modern woman with that of a godly woman. Janet hosts the national program, In the Market with Janet Parshall, which airs weekdays from 4-6 pm CT. She has been broadcasting from the nation’s capital for over three decades and has spoken internationally. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today on Karl and Crew, we discussed how to understand intimacy and marital sex through the lens of God with Dr. Juli Slattery. Dr. Slattery is a clinical psychologist, author, President, and Co-founder of the women’s ministry, Authentic Intimacy. She also hosts a weekly podcast, Java with Juli. Juli also has a video series called “Making Sense of God and Sex.” We also analyzed the role of Noah in Genesis Chapter 6, as a Father, Husband, and Faithful servant to God. Then, we wrapped up with Dr. Charles Stone, who discussed the different kinds of stress and how to deal with them per the Bible. Dr. Stone is a pastor and a coach consultant to pastors and leaders. He has also authored the book “ Stress Less.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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On this Freedom Friday, we celebrated the freedom that comes from having a relationship with Jesus and no longer being in darkness. Sometimes, we can do all the right things but remain lost. We could attend church every Sunday, participate in Bible Study, sing with the choir, volunteer, etc., but still not know who Christ is. The testimonies shared by Karl and Crew this week shed some light on how each member had a false sense of salvation at a point in their walk with Christ. Today, we asked our listeners to share their coming-to-Christ stories. Was there a time when you were in church but didn’t know Christ? You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme of stories with a testimony from one of our co-hosts, Ally Domercant. She shared with us how the Lord opened her eyes, showed her grace, and delivered her from a self-righteous and perfectionist mindset. We also had Reverend Stefano Fehr talk about the persecution of Christians in Nigeria. Reverend Fehr is the President of Call of Hope, a ministry among Muslims for over 100 years. He also serves on the board of directors of the Committees of Evangelical Karmel Mission in Germany, Switzerland, and Lebanon. He also works with more than 200 believers of Indigenous Muslim background. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of stories with a testimony from one of our co-hosts, Karl Clauson. He shared with us how God’s grace delivered him out of a raging cocaine addiction. We also had Dr. Sam Storms join us to discuss the current state of Cultural Christianity. Dr. Storm is the founder and president of Enjoying God Ministries and serves on the Council of the Gospel Coalition. He is also the Executive Director of the Convergence Church Network. Dr. Storm has also authored several books, including “Understanding Prayer: Biblical Foundations and Practical Guidance for Seeking God.” We also shared a few laughs with Ally during “Ally Thinks It’s Funny”, a segment where Ally tells Dad jokes. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we started our week off with a testimony from Super Di. She shared how Jesus took the weight of her trauma and pain and freed her from the heavy burden of anger. When we repent and turn from our sins, Jesus relieves us and guides us to freedom from bondage. We also had Dr. Jim Coakley join us to share about the Today in the Word he wrote based on animals. Dr. Coakley is a professor at Moody Bible Institute in the Bible and Theology department. He is also an elder at 180 Chicago and a member of the Evangelical Theological Society. He also wrote Today in the Word for June, focusing on Animals and the Bible. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we heard Young Thunder’s testimony. He shared with us how the Lord revealed and led him out of the hallucination of salvation. The Hallucination of Salvation is the belief of having salvation without knowing, living for, and having a relationship with Jesus. We also had Dr. Michael Rydelnik as a guest today. Dr. Rydelnik is a Professor of Jewish Studies and Bible and Academic Dean at Moody Bible Institute. He also hosts the radio program, Open Line, which airs every Saturday on 90.1 WMBI and other stations from 9-11 am CT. He is also a contributor and co-editor on The Moody Bible Commentary and The Moody Handbook of Messianic Prophecy. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme of “Abide in God” by discussing how, when we abide in Him, we experience fruitfulness, whether it be changes in our perspectives or actions. Romans 6:20 tells us that when we submit to the Lord, we produce fruit that leads to everlasting life. What was the most significant “change of fruit” you noticed when you experienced new life in Christ? We had a few listeners call in and share the fruitfulness they’ve experienced after coming to Christ. Chip Ingram also joined us in sharing the beauty of embracing the God-given gift of joy. Chip has been a pastor, author, and teacher for over 30 years. He is also the CEO and Teaching Pastor of Living on the Edge, an international teaching and discipleship ministry. Chip has authored several books, including “I Choose Joy: Change Your Perspective, Change Your Life.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of “Abide in God” by discussing the three baits that Satan uses to get us out of proximity with God. We looked at John 15, where Jesus says that we must remain connected to Him to produce fruit and that without Him, we produce nothing. Satan doesn’t want us to be connected and will try to lead us away from Jesus. We turned to Matthew 4, where we analyzed the three ways Satan tried to separate Jesus from God and how he tries to do the same to us. Oftentimes, Satan will use the Hallucination of Salvation to deter us from abiding in God. Phillip Miller joined the conversation and provided insight into how being connected and having our identity rooted in Christ is imperative. Philip is the Senior Pastor of the Moody Church. He can also be heard on the weekly “Moody Church Hour” nationwide radio broadcast on 90.1-WMBI-FM on Sundays at 10 am. Philip also has over 15 years of ministry experience. We also had Susie Larson join us to talk in depth about the grief of life when you are far from Christ. Susie is a best-selling author and national speaker. She also hosts the popular radio show, Susie Larson Live, and shares Daily Blessings on social media, which reaches over half a million people. She has authored several books, including “Strong in Battle.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of Abiding in God by discussing how having proximity to Jesus allows us to bear much fruit, and we discussed what it looks like to abide in Him with Greg Dempster. Greg is the Founder and Director of ChristLife Ministries, an organization that transforms Christian leaders from various denominational backgrounds. We turned to John 15 to analyze Jesus’s metaphor of the grapevine. His metaphor demonstrates the structure of a spiritual circuit breaker, where our source is God, and we bear fruit when we are connected to Him and Jesus. The Father is the Gardener, Jesus is the grapevine, and we are the branches. We also had Lori Ridder come in and share her testimony. Lori is the Executive Assistant to Karl at 180 Chicago, a multi-location church where Karl is the Senior Pastor. She has also led two successful webinars on the connection between faith and fitness, including her own journey, weight loss, spiritual strength, and lifelong healthy choices. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off the week with a discussion about bearing fruit when abiding in Christ with Dr. Erwin Lutzer. How do we abide in Christ? We learn to abide in Him when we dwell in His Word and become solely dependent on Him. When we do this, we will be able to bear fruit. We turned to John 10:10, which tells us that despite the enemy’s schemes, the Lord wants a fruitful life for us. Dr. Lutzer is the Pastor Emeritus at Moody Church. He has also authored several books. We also had Rob West join us to discuss how to be good stewards of the money God has given us. Rob is the host of the nationally syndicated radio program “Faith and Finance LIVE” that airs weekday afternoons at 3 pm on 90.1 FM. He is also the host of the podcast for the show and the FaithFi App. Rob is also the CEO of Kingdom Advisors, a community of financial professionals who are specialists in sharing biblically wise financial advice. He has also written a 21-day devotional called “Look at the Sparrows.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today on Karl and Crew, the team was out for the Memorial Day Weekend, but they left some great content to help you take your next step with Jesus. Karl and Ally talked with Dr. Hormoz Shariat, Founder of Iran Alive Ministries, about the growing church in Iran. The team also spoke about the power of our testimonies and three of the most important things to know about God's will.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly “Who Are You” theme by discussing the importance of staying anchored in Christ with Greg Dempster. Greg Dempster is the Founder and Director of ChristLife Ministries, a ministry devoted to transforming Christian leaders from various denominational backgrounds. Greg shared how ChristLife Ministries helps leaders stay anchored when distractions arise. As followers of Christ, we often have to deny our flesh, resist the enemy, and remain unconformed to this world to prevent ourselves from drifting away from Christ. What mindset shift have you had to fight against to stay anchored in Christ? Our listeners also chimed in to answer the question. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly “Who Are You” theme by discussing the importance of having your identity rooted in Christ. Dr. Richard Blackaby joined the conversation and provided insight into how, when our identity is rooted in God, we experience Him and His nature personally. Dr. Blackaby is the President of Blackaby Ministries International. He also travels internationally, speaking on spiritual leadership in the home, church, and marketplace. He also speaks to spiritual awakening, experiencing God, and the Christian Life. He also has a podcast called The Richard Blackaby Leadership Podcast. Dr. Blackaby has also served as a Senior Pastor and Seminary President. We also had Dr. Mitch Glaser join us to discuss the recent killing of Israeli Embassy staff members and the current rise of anti-semitism. Dr. Glaser has been the President of Chosen People Ministries since 1997. Chosen People Ministries is the oldest and largest Messianic mission in the United States. He also authored several books, including “The Middle East- A Biblical Response to the Current Conflict.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of “Who Are You” with a discussion about identifying and healing from trauma with Jesus with Dr. Dan Allender. Dr. Allender is a counseling psychologist whose services have focused on marriage, trauma, and sexual abuse for over 47 years. He is also a Professor of Counseling Psychology at the Seattle School. Dr. Allender is also the cofounder of The Allender Center, where Dr. Allender’s teaching, training, and writing can help others with a vision of healing and transformation. He has also written several books, including “The Deep-Rooted Marriage.”We also heard a new set of Dad jokes during “Ally Thinks It’s Funny.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly “Who Are You” theme by discussing the safety and transformation of having your identity in Christ with Philip Miller. Philip Miller is the Senior Pastor of the Moody Church. He is a visionary leader with over 15 years of ministry experience. Philip can be heard on the weekly Moody Church Hour radio broadcast on over 700 stations nationwide every Sunday at 10 am on 90.1-WMBI-FM. We also heard from our listeners about how Christ's transformation changed their career trajectory. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off a new weekly theme, "Who Are You?" and discussed what's next as a secure follower of Christ. Being secure in God's love and eternal security doesn't mean a life of wild abandonment. What do we do? How do we live? Our special guest was Dr. Michael Rydelnik, MBI Professor, host of Open Line, and author. He unpacked one of his blogs called "Now That I'm Secure...". Karl also shared a valuable lesson and story about his grandfather. You can hear the highlights of today's program on the Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we concluded our study of David. The scripture reference was II Samuel, chapters 11 and 12. We discussed David's fall with Bathsheba and the consequences from this sin. On this Freedom Friday, we also discussed God's redemptive Grace. Our special guest was Dr. Winfred Neely, retired Vice President and Academic Dean of Moody Theological Seminary, adjunct professor, pastor, and author. He shared that God loved David (and us) too much to let him (and us) get away with it. Dr. Neely also wrote the commentary on David (I and II Samuel) for the "Moody Commentary on the Bible". You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly focus on David by discussing the description of David and the complexity of his nature with Dr. Jim Coakley. We turned to 1 Samuel 16 and 17 to deeply analyze David’s characteristics and word choice from his younger years and how it led to his decision-making as an adult. Dr. Jim Coakley is a Bible professor at Moody Bible Institute, a current elder with 180 Chicago, and a former Senior Pastor. He has also written several books and commentaries, including “14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we dove deeper into the life of King David and discussed his unapologetic form of praise: dance. King David was known for his creative abilities in music, writing, and dance, and when others tried to make him self-conscious about it, he was unbothered. We turned to 2 Samuel 6:21-22 with Dr. Ryan Cook to see David’s persistence, intentionality, and boldness with his praise. Dr. Cook is an Old Testament and Hebrew Professor at Moody Theological Seminary (MTS). He is also a key writer for “Today in the Word”, Moody Bible Institute’s free daily devotional, and a contributor to the “Moody Handbook of Messianic Prophecy” and several academic publications. Dr. Cook was also recently appointed as Dean of Faculty at MTS. He also has a book coming out in June called “Talking with God: Daily Readings in the Psalms.” We also talked with Dr. William West about how the Bible and Science go hand in hand. Dr. West is a Harvard and Johns Hopkins-trained oncologist and researcher for advanced cancer care. He founded the West Clinic and has grown it from a single practice into a network of five locations. He has also written “Sacred Science: Understanding Divine Creation”. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly focus on David as we analyzed his leadership and his inclination to seek the Lord’s counsel. David was placed in a position of power as king, and instead of being led by man or power, he constantly sought the Lord when making decisions. We see this in 1 and 2 Samuel, David sought God from when King Saul was hunting him to when he was on the throne, making royal decisions. How often are you leaning on the Lord for counsel? We also had Jessica Ronne join us to discuss resources for caregivers. Jessica is an author, caregiver advocate, podcast host of “Coffee with Caregivers,” and the associate producer of the documentary “Unseen: How We’re Failing Parent Caregivers & Why It Matters.” She is also the founder and executive director of The Lucas Project, a nonprofit dedicated to serving parent caregivers. She has also authored several books, including her latest, “Caregiving with Grit and Grace.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we started the week with a focus on David and how God-given ability to minister through music. Music is a form of expression that can communicate a story, event, dialogue, or the gospel. 1 Samuel 16 talks about how David would play music to soothe the troubled King Saul. Our discussion examines how God can use music to minister to us. What’s a song that God has used to minister to you? Dr. Winfred Neely also joined us in analyzing David's life and anointing. Dr. Neely is a newly retired Vice President and Academic Dean of Moody Theological Seminary. He is currently an Adjunct Professor of Biblical Interpretations, Old Testament, and Biblical Preaching at the Moody Bible Institute. He has also contributed and written commentaries and books. He wrote the commentary on 1 and 2 Samuel for the “Moody Commentary on the Bible.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our weekly theme of Chivalry with a conversation about the common disconnects in a marital relationship with Shaunti Feldhahn. Shaunti is a best-selling author, podcaster, blogger, and popular speaker. She was formerly an analyst on Wall Street, and she applies her analytical skills to investigating eye-opening and life-changing truths about personal and work relationships. She has authored several books, including “For Women Only” and “For Men Only.” We also talked with Mandy Arioto about MomCo, the nonprofit organization that encourages and equips Moms of young children. Mandy is the President and CEO of The MomCo, and she is well-known for her unique takes on parenting, relationships, spiritual, and cultural issues. She is a well-known speaker nationally and internationally as well as an author. She has authored several books, including “Have More Fun: How to Be Remarkable, Stop Feeling Stuck, and Start Enjoying Life.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of chivalry by unpacking what a man really is compared to the culture’s definition of a man with Brant Hansen. Brant Hansen is a bestselling author, syndicated radio host, and host of the podcast, The Brant and Sherri Oddcast. He also advocates for healing kids through CURE International Children’s Hospitals. Brant has also authored several books, including “The (Young) Men We Need: God’s Purpose for Every Guy and How You Can Live It Out.” We also discussed the importance of a Mom’s prayer with Sally Burke. Sally is the President of Moms in Prayer International, which stems from the joy and hope God gives women to pray for their children and their schools. Sally is also an international speaker, teacher, and author of several books, including “Raise Them Up.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we dove deeper into yesterday's conversation about pursuing Godly manhood. We had Dr. Robert Lewis join the conversation as he shared a strategy for discipling younger men and pursuing Godly manhood. Dr. Lewis has been a pastor, writer, speaker, and visionary for over 40 years. He is also the founder of the Men’s Fraternity ministry, developed its 3-year video curriculum, and is the founding partner of Better Man. He has also authored several books, including “Raising a Modern-Day Knight.” We also heard from our listeners how moms overcome obstacles. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of chivalry with a discussion about how to start pursuing Godly manhood with Dr. Crawford Loritts. Dr. Loritts is the President and Founder of Beyond Our Generation, a ministry that’s dedicated to healing the next generation of Christian leaders. He is a nationally known speaker, author, mentor and the former Senior Pastor of Fellowship Bible Church. He also hosts two national radio programs: Living a Legacy and Legacy Moments. He has also authored several books including, “Your Marriage Today…and Tomorrow.” We also heard some good Mom advice from our listeners. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme of Chivalry in preparation for Mother’s Day! We discussed the importance of Moms and all that they do. We also had Dr. Gary Rosberg join us to discuss the importance of chivalry and male-to-male encouragement and discipling. Dr. Rosberg is a marriage coach along with his wife, Barb Rosberg. They are also award-winning authors, speakers, and podcast hosts of “The Rosbergs-Your Marriage Coaches.” They have also co-founded the for-profit Rosberg Group and are the founders of the international ministry, America’s Family Coaches. They have also authored a dozen marriage books, including “Healing Your Marriage.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we finished the week discussing identity in Christ. As followers of Christ, we cannot conform to the expectations and culture of the world; our identities are found in Him. We turned to John 14:6, which affirms that, as it says, Jesus is the way, the truth, and the life, and that no one can come to the Father without going through Him. We also turned to 2 Corinthians 5:17, where Paul tells us that we are new creations in Christ. Therefore, our identities should align with Him. Jon Kelly also shared his testimony on finding his new identity in Christ. Pastor Kelly is a husband, father, and Lead Pastor of Chicago West Bible Church. He is also an alumnus of Moody Bible Institute. We also had Heather Rice Minus join us to discuss prison ministry. Heather is the President and CEO of Prison Fellowship, the nation’s largest Christian nonprofit serving prisoners, former prisoners, and families. She also works to deepen church partnerships with prison ministries. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we celebrated the National Day of Prayer by discussing the importance of prayer. Prayer is an intimate time of communion and conversation with the Lord, and as Christ followers, we should be actively praying. Do you have an active prayer life? We turned to Matthew 6:5-14, which provides us with some guidelines on how to pray properly. We also heard from our listeners about how God answered their prayers. We then had Dr. Ronnie Floyd join us to discuss the purpose of the National Day of Prayer. Dr. Floyd was the former National Day of Prayer Task Force president and is now a speaker, author, and encourager. He is dedicated to helping others, committed to the next generation, and empowering leaders. He is also the host of the weekly podcast, For Leaders Podcast with Ronnie Floyd. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we discussed how difficult it can be to continue doing good when others are rewarded for doing bad. As followers of Christ, we are called to trust, commit, and abide in the Lord despite what others do, which means doing the right thing. We must cling to Him and play the long game, knowing that He will handle it all in the end. Psalm 37 affirms this because it tells us not to fret over evildoers but to trust in Him patiently. Have you been playing the long game with the Lord? We also had Laine Lawson Craft join us to talk about how to fight for your children with prayer. Laine is a dynamic speaker and host of the top-ranked podcast, Warfare Parenting. She is also a best-selling author of several books, including Warfare Parenting: A Daily Battle Plan to Fight for Your Child. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we discussed the goodness of God and how, when we submit to Him, all things happen for good. There is nothing we can do that can keep us from God when we truly lay before His throne, because He can take the bad and turn it for good. Romans 8:28 affirms this as Paul tells us that if we love God and are called according to His purpose, all things will work for good. We also had Mark Jobe join us to talk about Giving Day. Mark is the current President of the Moody Bible Institute and the Senior Pastor at New Life Community Church. We also had Phillip VanLear join us to share his testimony. Phillip is a 2021 graduate of Moody Theological Seminary and a well-known actor. He spent 40 years acting and played in well-known movies such as Prison Break, Chicago Code, Meet the Browns, Holiday Heist, and many others. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off the week with a LIVE in-studio audience as we discussed the importance of sharing the Gospel in a sincere and simple way. The Gospel is to be accessible by all, therefore we need to be intentional about the way we share it with others. We should share it in a way that all can understand. We turned to 2 Corinthians 11:3 where Paul expresses concern about believers being misled by false teachers simply because they don’t understand the simple and truthful gospel. How can you share the gospel in a way where it makes sense to everyone? We also had Pastor Jon Kelly share his testimony of how Jesus met him in solitary confinement. Pastor Kelly is a husband, father and Lead Pastor of Chicago West Bible Church. He also is an alum of Moody Bible Institute. We also had Dr. Joseph Stowell join us. Dr. Stowell is an international conference speaker, author, and former president of Moody Bible Institute. He currently serves on the boards of CURE International, English Language Institute/China and International Aid. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our Resurrection week by discussing the renewal we receive through Christ. When Christ died on the cross, He took our sins with Him, and now we have salvation through Him. We turned to Romans 6:6-7, which says that our old selves were crucified with Jesus on the cross, making us no longer slaves to sin. What have you left at the cross? We also had Rachel Faulkner Brown join us today. Rachel founded Never Alone Widows, the largest Christian widows' ministry, after tragically losing two husbands before she was 31 years old. She also hosts the “There is More Podcast” and co-wrote an eight-week Bible study, Father’s House. Rachel has authored several books, including “Widow’s Might: 365 Days of Strength for Grief and Loss– Find Comfort, Hope, and Healing.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we discussed the importance of walking in truth with the Lord. The enemy will try to plant lies in our heads to discourage and keep us from knowing the truth that God has given us. One of those truths is that we are dead to sin and alive in Christ Jesus our Lord, which is spoken about in Romans 6:11. When we know the truth, we won’t believe the lies that the enemy and the world throw at us. What lies have you believed? We also had Ginna Cross as a special guest today. Ginna is the Co-Executive Director of Alliance Family Services, a Christian organization committed to serving women and families in the Kenosha and Racine area. The organization champions the sanctity of human life, sharing the Gospel, and trusting God to transform lives. Ginna and her husband, Steve, are passionate about rescuing the preborn and proclaiming the gospel. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued Resurrection week by discussing identity in Christ. As followers of Christ, we need to have our identity in Him, or else we’ll try to find our identity in other things. We turned to Romans 6:8-10, where the apostle Paul tells us that when Christ died, we died with Him so that we can live with Him now. We have been given new life because of His sacrifice. Therefore, we should live for Him. We also had J. Warner Wallace talk about how he went from an atheist to a believer after investigating the supernatural existence of Jesus. J. is a Dateline featured cold-case homicide detective, a national speaker, podcast host, and a best-selling author. He also serves as a Senior Fellow at the Colson Center for Christian Worldview and as an adjunct professor of apologetics at Talbot School of Theology, Gateway Seminary, and Southern Evangelical Seminary. He has authored several books, including “CASE FILES: Murder and Meaning”. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today on Karl and Crew, we continued our breakdown of the Resurrection by discussing freedom through Jesus. We turned to Romans 6:6-7, where Paul tells us that we are no longer slaves of sin because Jesus freed us. We also had Dr. Erwin Lutzer join us as he explained how we were bought by the blood of Jesus. Dr. Erwin Lutzer is Pastor Emeritus of the Moody Church in Chicago and an author. Dr. Lutzer has authored several books, including “Eclipse of God: Our Nation’s Disastrous Search for a More Inclusive Deity (and What We Must Do About It).” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today on Karl and Crew, we kicked off the week with a breakdown of the resurrection of Jesus Christ and how His resurrection power happens in our lives today. As we choose to align ourselves more closely with Christ, we die to our flesh and are renewed in Him, which gives us new life in Him. This is affirmed in Romans 6:5, where it says we are united in Christ's death and resurrection. We also had an "Ask Pastor Karl" segment, where Karl addressed the greatest life hack: walking with Christ. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today on Karl and Crew Mornings, the team took off for Good Friday, but they left behind some excellent content for you. Ron and Jodi Zappia of Highpoint church join to talk about their testimonies. Also, Peter Worrall, professor at Moody Bible Institute, talks to us about what a genuine relationship with Jesus looks like. Finally, we discuss the three barriers to salvation and the parable of the prodigal son.

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It’s Holy Week, and today, Karl and Crew discussed the impact of Christ-like compassion on others. Jesus was very compassionate to those around Him, and we saw this in Matthew 21:14-17 when He healed the blind and lame that came to the temple. As followers of Christ, we are to mirror Christ's actions in being compassionate towards others because that compassion could possibly be a blessing to them. We also had Dr. Alex McFarland join us to discuss the questions every Christian is asking or soon will be. Dr. McFarland is a Christian apologist, author, evangelist, religion and culture analyst, youth expert, and advocate for biblical truth. He also serves as the Director of Worldview for Charis Bible College and co-hosts the “Truth and Liberty” TV Broadcast. He has also authored several books and is a national contributing writer to various resources. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we started Holy Week by discussing how Christ cleansed the temple with Dr. Jim Coakley. Dr. Coakley is a professor at Moody Bible Institute in the Bible and Theology Department and an elder at the church, 180 Chicago. He has also authored several books, including "14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible.” We also turned to Mark 11 to see Jesus’s actions when clearing the temple and applied it to how we should clear ourselves of distractions and unclean things. As we walk with the Lord, we can’t allow just anything to enter our temples or fill our spirits because it can negatively affect our walk with Him. We also discussed how Resurrection Day can be considered a “Holy Reset.” Then, Pastor Karl answered some listener questions. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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It’s Freedom Friday, and we wrapped up the week by discussing our spiritual stance and heart posture toward the Lord. It’s easy to slip into an illusion of salvation when you don’t truly know who He is. We have to earnestly seek Him to get to know Him and be ready for when He returns. We looked at Matthew 7:21-23, which talks about how preachers, prophets, and teachers called out to the Lord because they thought they had taught and done wonders in His name. However, Jesus turned from them because they never came to know Him personally and spiritually despite their actions. Where do you stand with God? You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued in the Book of Esther as we discussed how Esther’s actions changed the outcome for the Jewish people. Esther took a leap of faith when she went before the king to save her people from persecution, and they were saved. Esther 9:1 tells us that the Jews overpowered their enemies in the end. What is the step of faith God is asking you to take today? We also had a stress-relieving conversation with Dr. Charles Stone, who shared some practices that help reduce stress with the guidance of the Holy Spirit. Dr. Stone served in vocational ministry for 43 years and was a Senior Pastor for 30 years. He is now a coach consultant to pastors and leaders. Dr. Stone has authored numerous books, including Stress Less: 9 Habits from the Bible and Brain Science to Build Resilience and Reduce Anxiety. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we were knee-deep in our analysis of the Book of Esther as we discussed how God took what was meant for evil and made it good because of Esther’s faith. Esther took a leap of faith when she went before the king to advocate for her people, risking a potential death sentence. Esther had to stand up for her people because Haman, the king’s advisor, convinced the king to persecute all the Jews because a God-serving Jewish man, Mordecai, wouldn’t bow down to him. Esther turned to the Lord and relied on Him when taking this risk, and the king showed her favor. Are you turning to the Lord when taking risks? We also had some heartfelt laughter with our weekly segment of Ally Thinks It’s Funny. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our focus on the Book of Esther, discussing how taking a risk for others leaves room for God to show up. Esther was a young woman who stood up to prevent the persecution of her people. She put her life on the line unapoligetically, and in Esther 4:16, it says that she called for her people to fast while she took the risk and said, “If I perish, I perish.” Have you ever taken a stand or risk for others, not knowing the outcome? We also turned to Hebrews 11, which provides examples of biblical figures that took risks and had faith through it all. We even heard from the Boom Crew and their risky, faith-filled stories. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we began our weekly focus on the Book of Esther by discussing the importance of trusting the Lord over worldly securities and comforts. You may rely on specific daily amenities for stability or routine, such as cars, investments, insurance, etc, and you can quickly become dependent. We turned to Psalm 20:7, where we are encouraged to remember the name of the Lord our God over the chariots that may help alleviate daily needs or tasks. We can’t become dependent on the chariots that comfort us because sometimes we are called to disrupt that comfort for the good of others. In Esther 4:14, Esther was asked to risk her comfort in the palace to save her people from persecution, and she did. She jeopardized her chariot for the sake of her people. Are you willing to risk your chariot? Our special guest, Rob West, also joined us to discuss placing our trust in God instead of financial securities. Rob hosts the nationally syndicated radio program "Faith and Finance LIVE," which explores how faith and finance intersect. He also hosts the Faith and Finance podcast, which is connected to the app FaithFi. Rob also authored a 21-day devotional, "Look at the Sparrows.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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On this Freedom Friday, we concluded our weekly theme of fasting with a discussion on fasting the right way. Fasting is a time of intimacy and devotion to the Lord, so we must approach it with a humble and seeking heart. We turned to Isaiah 58, which instructs us that our fasting should be pleasing to God, not based on our expectations or motives. We also discussed the pressures of evangelizing to others, and Andrew Steier joined us to share his insights about the evangelizing organization he works with. Andrew is the Director of Always Going, a Christian organization dedicated to teaching others how to evangelize with a focused worldview. The organization strives to reach others with the gospel in ways that go beyond general communication methods. Andrew has also authored and self-published a book called, “Always Going: The Joyful Overflow of Everday Evangelism.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of fasting with a discussion about the rewards, blessings, and intimacy with the Lord that come from fasting. We turned to Daniel 9:3-5, where Daniel tells us that the Lord heard him and honored his plea when he fasted and prayed. How often do you draw near to the Lord through fasting? Drew Dyck also joined us to discuss how God can transform ordinary things into extraordinary ones. Drew is an Acquisitions Editor with Moody Publishers and a contributing editor for Christianity Today's Pastors section. He has also authored several books, including “Generation Ex-Christian: Why Young Adults Are Leaving the Faith and How to Bring Them Back.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of fasting with a discussion about fasting for others. Dr. Sandra Glahn also joined us to discuss the upcoming Women’s Called Conference at Moody Bible Institute, scheduled for Saturday, April 12, at 9:30 a.m. CT, where she will be the keynote speaker. Dr. Glahn is a professor of media arts and worship at Dallas Theological Seminary and an active journalist. She has also authored several books and coauthored over 20, including “Coffee Cup Bible Study.” We also had Franklin Graham as a special guest, who updated us on the happenings in Myanmar and Thailand. Franklin is a speaker, author, and evangelist. He is also the President and CEO of Samaritan’s Purse, an international Christian relief and evangelism organization, as well as the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of fasting with a discussion about turning back to the Lord. We all make mistakes, but we have a merciful Heavenly Father who loves us unconditionally and will look past those mistakes because He wants us to return to Him. We are affirmed of His merciful embrace in Joel 2:12-13, where He is described as “gracious, merciful, slow to anger, of great kindness, and relents from doing harm.” Have you returned to the Lord? We were also joined by Dr. Drew Dickens, our special guest, who provided insight into the intersection of technology and spirituality. Dr. Dickens is a visionary leader, an AI expert, and a scholar who focuses on the intersection of technology, spirituality, and faith-based engagement. He also founded the Encountering Peace app and the Encouter Podcast, which provide biblical meditations, resources, and dialogue. Dr. Dickens has also authored the book, “Whispers of the Spirit: A 40-Day Guide to Intimate Prayer,” which was released today. We also had Franklin Graham as a special guest. Franklin is a speaker, author, and evangelist. He is also the President and CEO of Samaritan’s Purse, an international Christian relief and evangelism organization, as well as the Billy Graham Evangelistic Association. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off the week with a discussion about identifying spiritual gifts and the impact of fasting. Spirtual gifts come from the Lord and can be identified and accessed when we lean into His direction. Fasting is an intimate way to lean into and seek His direction by denying our flesh and seeking Him over our desires. How often do you seek Him? We turned to Matthew 6:16-18 for some biblical guidance on how to go about fasting. Our special guest, Dr. Eric Redmond, also joined us to discuss resources that help pastors and spiritual leaders hone, train, and develop their spiritual gifts. Dr. Redmond is a Professor of Bible at Moody Bible Institute and the Executive Director of Moody’s Theological Seminary Center for Compelling Biblical Preaching. He also serves as Associate Pastor of Preaching and Teaching at Calvary Memorial Church in Oak Park, IL, and has authored several books. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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On this Freedom Friday, we discussed the urgency of living for the Lord today because He will return, and the day of His return is unknown. We turned to the parable of the 10 virgins in Matthew 25:1-13, which illustrates His return and how those who are ready will go with Him while those who are not will remain where they stand. Are you living for the Lord today and prepared for His return? We were also joined by our special guest, Simon Guillebaud, for the conversation. Simon was called to Burundi in 1998 and has been there since. He is now the Founder and International Director of Great Lakes Outreach. This organization partners with other Christian organizations to share the gospel and help build the spiritual and physical development of the people of Burundi. Simon has also authored several books, including his bestseller, “Choose Life-365 Readings for Radical Disciples.” He also hosts the podcast, “Inspired.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we discussed having the courage to identify idolization in your life and how to overcome it. Is there something or someone taking the place of God in your life? Bill Gaither also joined us as a special guest. Bill is an eight-time Grammy Award-winning gospel artist known for composing over 700 gospel songs. Bill and his wife, Gloria, have been ministering through music for years, doing so on their show, “Gaither Gospel Hour,” on the Trinity Broadcasting Network (TBN) every Saturday night from 8-11 p.m. Eastern Time. A special Easter programming event featuring other award-winning artists will air on TBN on Monday, April 7, and Wednesday, April 16, from 8-11 p.m. Eastern Time. Greg Dempster also joined us. Greg is the Founder and Director of ChristLife ministries, which is dedicated to helping Christian leaders. He has also served as a senior leader, elder, and ministry director. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today on Karl and Crew, we discussed Spiritual Warfare and shared some scriptures to help equip believers for the unseen battle. We were also joined by special guest, Stan Jantz. Stan is the CEO of Come and See Foundation, a nonprofit that supports and advances the television series, "The Chosen." The show has made headlines and has been translated into over 600 languages, captivating an audience of 250 million viewers. The show's fifth season, "The Chosen: Last Supper," will premiere in theaters in three parts, starting on March 28, 2025, with Part one. Stan has also authored numerous books including, “God is in the Small Stuff.” Elizabeth Woodsen also discussed her ministry and an upcoming women’s conference at the Moody Bible Institute (MBI). Elizabeth founded the Woodsen Institute, which equips Christians to grow their faith. She will also be the keynote speaker for the Women’s Called Conference closing session on Saturday, April 12, at MBI in Chicago. The conference is also available online. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we chatted about God’s favor in the lives of His people. Where do you see God’s favor, and where do you need His favor? We were also joined by Jon Erwin, the Executive Producer and Director of the show “House of David.” Jon has extensive experience in the television and film industry and serves as the Chief Executive Officer at Kingdom Story Company, an independent Christian film and television studio. He also writes and co-directs feature films with his brother, Andrew. We also discussed the upcoming “Experience Moody” preview day for prospective students considering Moody Bible Institute (MBI) with Sydney Swenson. Sydney is the Admisisions Operatuons Manager for MBI in Chicago. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, the team was not here, but we left some great content just for you. Hear the salvation story of Moody Radio employee Kenz Weatherford, letting go of the pressure to save your relatives, and more!

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we discussed how the Lord takes enemy ground when we submit to Him. Has the enemy taken anything that the Lord is calling you to take back? We also had Pastor John Hannah join us and speak about how the Lord led him to take enemy ground by purchasing and renovating a liquor store for community outreach. Pastor Hannah is the Founder and Lead Pastor of New Life Covenant Church Southeast. He is also a speaker and author who has impacted thousands through his ministry, prayer, and service. He has authored several best-selling books, including “What To Do While You’re Waiting.” Then, questions were answered during our weekly Monday segment of Ask Pastor Karl, and we heard a testimony from football quarterback Baker Mayfield. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we wrapped up our “Hands and Feet” weekly theme with a discussion about enduring, embracing, and testifying on the Lord’s deliverance through trials and tribulations. As followers of Christ, we should embrace trials and tribulations as part of our walk with the Lord and share our testimonies so others can see how He works. James 1 affirms this by saying to have joy during trials because the testing of our faith produces patience. Revelations 12:11 also confirms that the defeat of the enemy is done by the believers’ faith in Jesus, the believers’ willingness to sacrifice their lives for Jesus, and the power of their testimony. Our special guest, Dr. Hormoz Shariat, echoed this as he spoke about how many in Iran chose to live for Jesus. Dr. Shariat is the Founder and President of Iran Alive Ministries (IAM), a satellite broadcasting and internet platform that reaches Iranians with the gospel. He is also known as “the Billy Graham of Iran” and “the most influential Iranian American” by Christianity Today. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our “Hands and Feet” weekly theme with a chat about risk-taking for the Lord. Often, the Lord will call us to do things we aren’t comfortable with, but as devoted followers, we must obey His direction. Have you been a risk-taker for the Lord? We turned to Ecclesiastes 11, where Solomon encourages us to live life to the fullest for the Lord. Our special guest, Phil Kwiatkowski, joined the conversation and shared about the rescue mission organization he works with, Pacific Garden Mission (PGM). Phil is the President of PGM and was once Vice President of ministries and a counselor. He is also a graduate of Moody Bible Institute. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly “Hands and Feet” theme by discussing the importance of patience and guidance for younger, newer, and weaker Christians. As followers of Christ, we are called to pour into those more spiritually vulnerable so we can help build them up in Christ. Do you exercise patience and understanding with those weaker or younger than you? We turned to Romans 15:1, which affirms our duty of helping those who are weaker. We also had a special guest, Chris Baker, join the conversation and tell us how his tattoo ministry provides guidance and patience to those in need. Chris founded INK 180, a tattoo ministry that serves “the invisible, forgotten, and discarded.” Before founding INK 180, Chris was a youth leader who encouraged kids to cover gang graffiti with artistic murals. We also had Dr. Michael Rydelnik join us to discuss the spiritual battles across the world. Dr. Rydelnik is a professor of Jewish Studies and the Bible and Academic Dean at Moody Bible Institute. He also hosts the radio show Open Line, which airs every Saturday from 9-11 am CT on WMBI. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we discussed the importance of helping and serving our brothers and sisters in need. As followers of Christ, we are called to be the hands and feet in God’s mission, and part of that mission is to help and love one another. We turn to Matthew 25:35-40, in which Jesus affirms that serving others is how we ultimately serve Him. Also, in Ephesians 2:10 (NKJV), we are told that we are designed for good works that were prepared by Him. Have you been a servant to others or a servant to yourself? Our special guest, Brandon Stiver, shared his experience serving orphans internationally. Brandon is a leader in global care for children, a professor, and a podcaster, and he has vast experience leading nonprofits based in the U.S. and Tanzania. He is the Principal and Chief Community Builder at Canopy International, a community of nonprofit professionals, missionaries, and leaders worldwide. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we brought some Freedom Friday to this early morning Monday with a testimony from Ally’s Snapshot Testimony Podcast. We heard from a man named Dexter who was set free from 20 years of alcoholism. Karl also answered a listener's question and offered some spiritual advice. The power of Dexter’s testimony and the intentional listener questions have amped up the crew for the Spring SHARE week ahead! We will be spending Tuesday through Saturday inviting old and new listeners to support God’s mission through Moody Radio. The highlights of today’s program can be heard on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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On this Freedom Friday, we wrapped up our “Be the Church” theme with a discussion about surrendering to Jesus. Have you fully surrendered to Him, or are you still holding onto the things of the world? Our special guest, Dr. Ryan Cook, also joined us to discuss the importance of a relationship with God. Dr. Cook is an Old Testament and Hebrew professor at Moody Theological Seminary. Dr. Cook is also a key writer for Today in the Word, Moody Bible Institute’s free daily devotional, and a contributor to the Moody Handbook of Messianic Prophecy, the One Volume Seminary, and several other academic publications. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we dove deeper into our “Be the Church” theme by discussing using our God-given gifts in the church. As followers of Christ, we should strive to be more than just a face at church because membership is more than attending a class; it’s spiritually engaging with our church family. Would the church body notice your absence if you missed a few Sundays? We also had special guest Jonathan Griffiths join the conversation. Jonathan is the lead pastor of the Metropolitan Bible Chuch in Ottawa, Canada. He also leads Encounter the Truth, a broadcasting ministry that produces religious programming on radio and podcasts across the United States and Canada. Jonathan has also written several books, including “Gathered for Good: God’s Good Design for the Local Church.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our “Be the Church” theme by discussing intentionality and proper heart posture when fasting and praying. We also had a special guest, Dr. Ronnie Floyd, share some insight into the importance of fasting. Dr. Floyd is a speaker, author, and encourager dedicated to uplifting and helping others become tomorrow’s leaders. He is also the host of the weekly podcast, “For Leaders Podcast with Ronnie Floyd.” He has also authored several books, including his latest, “The Supernatural Power of Prayer and Fasting: 12 Ways God Will Change Your Life- Live a Righteous and Fulfilled Life.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly “Be the Church” theme with a discussion that compared the biblical learning style of discipleship with a didactic or Socratic learning style. A didactic learning style is acquiring information from a single source/teacher through a teaching method that delivers information in a direct and structured manner, such as lectures. On the other hand, Discipleship is more of a personable, interactive, and application-based learning style mirrored from Jesus’s actions. We turned to Mark 1:35-39 to analyze Jesus’s first choice of action before starting His day. We also had our special guest, Ricky Brown, join the conversation. Ricky is the President and Founder of Speak Life. He is also a luminary, storyteller, speaker, and author. He has written the book, “The Five Hazardous Attitudes: Ways to Win the War Within.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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After returning from a fruitful week at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) conference, Karl and Crew started the new month by discussing the importance of being spiritually engaged in the church. As followers of Christ, we are called to be more than bodies that show up once a week. This time of shared fellowship, worship, and teaching is to be spiritually intentional. Do you go to church to be the church or to show up? We also had a special guest, R. York Moore, share some insight on ways church leaders can make service more spiritually engaging. R. York is a speaker, revivalist, and abolitionist. R. York is also the President, CEO, and National Evangelist for the interdenominational college ministry, Coalition for Christian Outreach (CCO). He has also authored several books, including “Do Something Beautiful: The Story of Everything and a Guide to Finding Your Place In It.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today on Karl and Crew, we are airing the “Best of” from our week at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) conference in Dallas, Texas. We have compiled a few of the interviews from our guests this week. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast. The following guests joined us this week:

  • Dr. Erwin Lutzer is Pastor Emeritus of the Moody Church in Chicago and an author. Dr. Lutzer has authored several books including, “Eclipse of God: Our Nation’s Disastrous Search for a More Inclusive Deity (and What We Must Do About It.)”
  • Lana Silk is the Chief Executive Officer for Transform Iran, a Christian organization that shares the gospel in Iran. Lana passionately works to help bring freedom to the people of Iran through ministry and humanitarian aid.
  • Jonathan Griffiths is a lead pastor of the Metropolitan Bible Church in Canada. Jonathan also leads Encounter the Truth, a media ministry that shares the gospel through radio and podcasts in the United States and Canada. He is also an author and has written several books including, “Gathered for Good: God’s Good Design for the Local Church.”
  • Christopher Beth is the founder, Chief Storyteller and Director of the Bucket Ministry, a nonprofit organization that shares the good news of Jesus along with clean water for in-need communities around the world. Christopher used to be a business consultant until he felt the call to ministry after going on a mission trip to the Brazilian Amazon with his then-high school daughter in 2012.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we were broadcasting LIVE from Texas at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) conference. We had some special guests on the show today as they shared their ministry origin stories, how God is moving through the ministry now and some helpful resources. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast. The following guests joined us this morning:

  • Jonathan Griffiths is a lead pastor of the Metropolitan Bible Church in Canada. Jonathan also leads Encounter the Truth, a media ministry that shares the gospel through radio and podcasts in the United States and Canada. He is also an author and has written several books including, “Gathered for Good: God’s Good Design for the Local Church.”
  • Christopher Beth is the founder, Chief Storyteller and Director of the Bucket Ministry, a nonprofit organization that shares the good news of Jesus along with clean water for in-need communities around the world. Christopher used to be a business consultant until he felt the call to ministry after going on a mission trip to the Brazilian Amazon with his then-high school daughter in 2012.
  • Marc Harper is the Director of Special Projects at Revelation Media Inc., a Christian media ministry that secures partners to create, produce and translate biblical films like The Pilgrim’s Progress. Prior to his current position, Marc was the Vice President of Development, helping to lead the launch of The Pilgrim’s Progress and iBible, a visual and interactive Bible app through Revelation Media.
  • Dr. Drew Dickens is a leader, AI expert, and scholar who has contributed to the integration of technology, spirituality and faith-based engagement. He was able to combine those things when he founded Encountering Peace, an app that provides guided meditations in the Bible, and the Encounter Podcast. Dr. Dickens has also written a book called “Whispers of the Spirit: A 40-Day Guide to Intimate Prayer,” which will be available April 1, 2025.
  • Dr. Saundra Dalton-Smith is a board-certified internal medicine physician, an international speaker, a podcast host, and the CEO of Restorasis, a health and wellness consulting agency. Dr. Dalton-Smith is also an award-winning author and just released her book, “Being Fully Known: The Joyful Satisfaction of Beholding, Becoming, and Belonging.” She also is the host of the podcast, “I Choose My Best Life.”
  • Keisha Toni Russell is a constitutional lawyer with First Liberty Institute, a legal organization that defends religious liberty. Keisha is a sought-after speaker who delivers commentaries on several TV stations and she writes op-eds for various national news outlets. She has also written a new book called, “Uncommon Courage.”

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we were broadcasting LIVE from Texas at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) conference. We had some special guests on the show today as we discussed enduring adversity as followers of Christ. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast. The following guests joined us this morning:

  • Todd Nettleton is the Vice President of Message Integration for The Voice of the Martyrs (VOM), a nonprofit organization that serves persecuted Christians around the world. He is also the host of the nonprofit’s radio program, The Voice of the Martyrs Radio. He has also been a part of the writing team for several VOM books including, “When Faith is Forbidden: 40 Days on the Frontlines with Persecuted Christians.”
  • Ricky Dickson is the recently retired CEO and President of Blue Bell Creameries, an ice cream company. Ricky also has a best-selling book called, “One Scoop at a Time: Lessons from Fear to Faith,” where he reflects on the highs and lows of his 43-year career in the ice cream business.
  • Colin Smith is the Founder and Teaching Pastor for Open the Bible, a national radio program. Colin is also the Senior Pastor of The Orchard Evangelical Free Church and an author. He has authored several books including, “Heaven, How I Got Here.”
  • Dannette Joy Crawford is a speaker, author, TV host and evangelist. Dannette is also the founder of Danette Crawford Ministries and its outreach, Joy Ministries. She has also authored several books including her upcoming book called, “The Power of Joy for Women,” which will be released in March 2025.
  • Captain Guy Barak is an Israel Naval Attache to the U.S. and Military Attache to the UN. Capt. Barak is at NRB today on behalf of Friends of the Israel Defense Forces (FIDF), a nonprofit that serves the soldiers who protect Israel and Jews worldwide.
  • Lana Silk is the Chief Executive Officer for Transform Iran, a Christian organization that shares the gospel in Iran. Lana passionately works to help bring freedom to the people of Iran through ministry and humanitarian aid.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we were LIVE at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) Conference in Texas. We had some special guests on the show today and heard stories of how they came to God and how He is still working in their lives now through ministry. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

The following guests joined us this morning:

  • Max McLean is an award-winning actor, founder and artistic director of the New York City-based Fellowship for Performing Arts. Max also stars in the Fellowship for Performing Arts’ most recent play, C.S. Lewis On Stage: Further Up & Further In.
  • Raymond Harris is an architect, executive movie producer, venture capitalist in God’s kingdom and author. Raymond has authored the book, “Enduring Wealth, Being Rich in this World and the Next.”
  • Larry Huch was once an addict but is now Pastor, advocate for Israel and Jewish people, and an author. Larry has spoken at the White House, in violent prisons, and to world leaders. He also authored the book, “From Junkie to Jerusalem-A Journey of Destiny.”
  • Dr. Erwin Lutzer is Pastor Emeritus of the Moody Church in Chicago and an author. Dr. Lutzer has authored several books including, “Eclipse of God: Our Nation’s Disastrous Search for a More Inclusive Deity (and What We Must Do About It.)”
  • June Hunt is the founder and Chief Servant Officer of the award-winning radio program, Hope for the Heart, where they provide guidance on the Bible and how to apply it in life. June is also a biblical counselor, speaker, singer and broadcaster.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we were LIVE at the National Religious Broadcasters (NRB) Conference in Texas. We had a couple of guests join us today to discuss how to engage the culture with Jesus. Our first guest was Natasha Crain. Natasha is a national speaker, author and blogger. She authored several books including “When Culture Hates You: Persevering for the Common Good as Christians in a Hostile Public Square.” We also had Phil Cooke join in on the conversation. Phil is a media producer, writer, speaker, author and coach who helps creative leaders influence the world! He has authored the book, “Church on Trial: How to Protect Your Congregation, Mission, and Reputation During a Crisis.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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On this Freedom Friday, we wrapped up our weekly theme of Faith and Culture with a discussion on how transformative faith grows a deeper relationship with the Lord. Transformative faith is believing and knowing that Jesus saved us from sin which then ignites a spiritual transformation. Has your faith in Jesus changed your life? We then discussed the three barriers that keep us from salvation: Rebellion, Blindness, and Deception. Peter Worrall joined the conversation with some insight into the importance of knowing and having a passion for God. Peter is an associate professor of Educational Ministries with MBI and an author. He wrote the book, “20 Things We’d Tell Our Twentysomething Selves.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast. Donate to Moody Radio: http://moodyradio.org/donateto/morningshow

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our weekly theme of Faith and Culture with a discussion of the impact that culture has on society and how behind the curtain there’s a spiritual root. We had Janet Parshall join the conversation to discuss biblical boldness when confronting the culture’s impact on Christianity. Janet is the host of the national program, “In the Market with Janet Parshall” and is a national speaker on issues impacting Christians. She has also been broadcasting from the nation’s capital for over three decades. We also had Dr. Andy Bannister join us and provide some insight into the spiritual side of culture's impact on society. Dr. Bannister is the Director of Solas, a Christian charity that shares the gospel, and the host of two podcasts, “PEP Talk” and “Pod of the Gaps.” He has also authored several books including, “Have You Ever Wondered?- Finding the Everyday Clues to Meaning, Purpose, and Spirituality.” You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we continued our deep dive into Faith and Culture as we discussed a few of the cultural trends that deviate from Biblical-based Faith. We also had Dr. Alex McFarland provide some insight into the importance of maintaining a faith-based mindset when practicing Christianity. Dr. McFarland is a religion and culture analyst and is the Director of Worldview for Charis Bible College. He has also spoken worldwide and preached in over 2,200 churches throughout North America and globally. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Today, on Karl and Crew, we kicked off our weekly theme of Faith and Culture by examining how today’s church and culture align and stray from the biblical framework. We also had Dr. Adam Rasmussen join us to share statistics on faith and cultural trends. Dr. Rasmussen is a dean at Arizona Christian University and a fellow at the Cultural Research Center. His work with the culture center focuses on advancing God’s Kingdom through research and studies on cultural and biblical worldviews. You can hear the highlights of today’s program on Karl and Crew Showcast.

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Marriage is beautiful. It’s meant to be a picture of Jesus and His love for the church. But it’s tough to live up to that. Every relationship comes with challenges. Whether you’re in your first or 51st year, you can grow in your marriage.

Dr. Gary Chapman shares stories and insights inspired by decades of counseling couples. With grace and humor, Gary shares time-tested practical wisdom and practical advice on:

  • What do to when your spouse is not where you are at spiritually.
  • How do we as couples get through really hard things together?
  • How does your marriage survive the death of a child?
  • The pain of regret.

Dr. Chapman’s new book A Simple Guide for A Better Marriage will offer your marriage the practical insights every couple needs to thrive.

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Perry didn’t think he’d ever be free from porn as a teen. But there came a day on a sunny, summer afternoon driving down Western Avenue in Cheboygan that he realized he was free. And the freedom didn’t come trying harder.

Shawna admits, “All my life I’ve believed the lie, ‘You need more.’ More clothes, more education, more clicks, more follows, more wins.” But she’s finding a way out of the tyranny of this lie!

Then, don’t lose heart! And how that’s possible when it’s so hard. Next, Perry’s always looking for open doors to share Jesus. And just this past Sunday a door opened wide and he fell flat on this face.

Last, Perry, Shawna, and Ben had a moment in the studio as the first song out the gate was Engedi Music’s “Glory.” No one took off their headphones as the Spirit poured living water into their thirsty hearts.

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It’s easy to look around you and compare yourself to others – to want a seat at the cool kids table. Shawna admits that she compares herself with the person she thinks she should be. God’s helping her to see that she already has a seat at the table with and in Christ Jesus. (Ephesians 2:6)

Perry shares, “On Sunday I didn’t feel like getting up for church, lifting my hands in worship, going to visit a hurting friend, but I chose to.” It’s a conversation about not just speaking the gospel but living it. But it’s not about try harder religion; it’s about the power to live what we speak.

The story of our lives is heading toward that great day when “All the sad things come untrue.” Perry got a glimpse of that on Sunday as he watched 3 Malaysian Jesus followers worship Jesus.

What was your first thought this morning? Was it excitement? Dread? Was it angsty? Whatever this day holds you can be excited about the day because you are seen, known and loved by the God of the universe who keeps all of His promises!

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Doubts are real but so is heaven. At the end of her life she began to wonder if she was good enough to go to heaven. Then she spoke her final words and all doubt was put to rest.

Perry shares, “Last Sunday I didn’t feel like getting up for church, didn’t feel like raising my hands in worship, didn’t feel like visiting my suffering friend. Before crawling into bed Sunday night I got on my face praying ‘Lord help.’ “

Shawna’s daughter Haven was afraid. Shawna wanted to be there for her every second, but couldn’t. Then God sent a tatted up guy to be there for Haven and the message on his tattoo proved that God was completely in it.

What if being “in Christ,” is more than a theological idea? What if it’s more like being immersed in an ocean of love where you’re so seen, known, loved, and safe that there’s no way you can ever be separated from it?

Is believing a lie a sin? Is an apology a confession? Perry and Shawna wrestle out what it means to come into agreement with God and His truth.

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What if we’ve missed the most wonderful truth about salvation?

That you and I were created to live at home with God. Not just in some far future heavenly world. But right now.

You and I are invited to live at home with God in Christ Jesus. This invitation is called “Union with Christ.” And it is one of the most unbelievable and overlooked realities of Christian salvation.

Kyle Worley (pastor, author of Home With God, and host of the Knowing Faith Podcast) joins us to share how the reality that we are in Christ made its way into his heart and mind and how this one truth changes everything.

Also in the podcast, Perry shares, “I live with a tension in my journey of faith—God has given me a beautiful life, but not everything in my life is the way it should be.”

And Perry shares a weird thought that hit him on the way home last week. It’s actually embarrassing for Perry to share but he puts it out there cause he’s trying to become more comfortable being human.

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You don’t realize how much you look in the rearview mirror until you can’t. Shawna was returning a recliner in her little Ford Escape and she absolutely couldn’t look back. But it made her realize how much we do. Our future with God is so much more compelling than our past.

It was like the experience of drowning. Perry was sinking into an ocean of depression. And then a hand grabbed hold of him and pulled him out. That’s when he learned, God will never let you drown.

So often we come to God in prayer asking for the only solution we see possible. What would happen if we prayed asking for His solutions instead of ours?

Perry’s suffering friend has come up with a thousand reasons why he’s unqualified to be in God’s family. Perry’s prayed for him for decades but it feels like Jesus is sleeping. Why doesn’t Jesus do something?

If you know God has forgiven you but you can’t seem to forgive yourself, Perry can relate. He has learned, over the years, how to accept the forgiveness Jesus so joyfully gives.

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We naturally want to help those we love. But lending money isn’t always the most helpful thing to do.

Rob West, president of Kingdom Advisors and host of Faith and Finance Live, shares financial advice from a biblical perspective.

Regarding lending to friends and family he shares ways we can discern how to be helpful.

President Trump has placed tariffs on Canada, Mexico, and China. Why? What will this do to our economy if Trump’s plan succeeds, fails?

God’s word certainly shares God’s heart for widows. But according to scripture who is responsible for caring for them? Family? Church? Government?

And Rob shares, “We are most like God when we are giving.” And Rob outlines a path for strategic kingdom giving.

Also in this podcast, Jesus has authority to break off what’s been spoken over your life. As Shawna was reading about Pilate putting a seal on Jesus’ tomb showing his authority over it and how Jesus broke the seal; another passage from Revelation about Jesus breaking a seal came to mind.

Because Jesus is worthy to break the seal, his word about who you are is final!

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Life Has Enough Challenges….Your Marriage Doesn’t Have to Be One of Them

Many people today are pessimistic about marriage. It’s hard. It will end in divorce. If you marry, you exchange romance for responsibility. Yet research tells us the happiest people on the planet are those in healthy marriages.

Can marriage be great—not just for the rare few—but for you? After twenty-five years of marriage, Arlene Pellicane, has stories and biblical wisdom to share. Full of real life that will make you laugh, Arlene joins us to talk about her new book Making Marriage Easier: How to Love (and like) Your Spouse For Life.

Arlene shares four key decisions that will help you clarify your values and create a clear path forward in your marriage.

Whether you’re holding a baby for the first time or figuring out retirement, this conversation is fresh kindling for a better marriage that can go the distance.

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In our age of increased social isolation and growing reliance on technology, genuine connection can feel more difficult than ever. But what if community and closeness are nearer than you thought?

Cindi McMenamin, author of The New Loneliness says you can experience the authentic relationships God created you for by identifying and overcoming today’s biggest relational obstacles.

As Perry, Shawna and Cindi share their own stories of loneliness and our need for one another you might just see yourself in the story as well as hear practical ways to connect with others.

God did not create us to live in isolation. Journey with the Lord from aloneness to abundance, and flourish as you deepen your relationships with God and others.

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You are valuable because you have something no one else has and it’s your gift to the world. Do you know what that something is? Do you know who you truly are?

Only God can tell you who you really are.

Jamie Winship, author of Living Fearless: Exchanging the Lies of the World for the Liberating Truth of God, has decades of experience bringing peaceful solutions to some of the world’s highest conflict areas.

In doing so he discovered an important truth: all human conflict originates from fear, and fear originates from a false view of God, ourselves, and others. Until we exchange what's false for what's real, we will never experience the true freedom of our identity in Christ.

Jamie has a gift for untying the knots that keep us stuck in the lies we believe so that we can learn to live fearless.

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Even before the fall, evil was in the garden. Then evil became full blown after the fall. But even before all this, God had written the story’s ending—“All the sad things will come untrue.” So we need not despair because when the time is right we’ll catch up to the end God has already written!

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at a West Michigan seminary for nearly 15 years. He joins us again to answer bible questions!

Jeff asks the first question: “If God created Adam and Eve, and the creation was good, why was an evil serpent allowed in the garden to tempt them.” Which leads to Jeremy’s quote, “The ending is written, we just have to catch up to it!”

Then, “Why was Jesus turning water in to wine his first miracle.” Next, “Hebrews 12 says that God disciplines his children. Jesus took our punishment, so why does he still discipline us??”

Next, “How do I overcome my resentment. I feel like I’m a prisoner to it!“ Then Dave shares, “I've been in a deep valley of depression and anxiety. Is it wrong to take medicine for depression or anxiety? Is taking medicine evidence that I’m not trusting God enough?”

Also, Ronda asks, “What, if anything, does the Bible say about suicide.” And last Lucy asks, “When Paul wrote about the resurrection was he aware of John’s revelation?” And “If Jesus is equal with the Father why does Paul write that one day Jesus will be subject to the Father?”

These are incredible questions, from incredible listeners, with incredible answers. Please share!

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God gave Perry and simple vision: To use radio and music to create awareness of just how much the Muslim world needs Jesus. He thought it’d take a year for that vision to be everything he hoped for. But 18 months in, with not much happening, he was ready to quit. It’s a conversation about not giving up on your God dreams.

There are days when Shawna feels like a faith rockstar and there are days when shefeels like a faith nobody. Just before Jesus gave the Great Commission we’re told that some of the disciples doubted. But he still gave them authority to teach, baptize, & make disciples. Doubt doesn’t disqualify you from being a world changing disciple maker!

Perry shares, “If the gospel is doing a deep work in me, the people who cross my path, and especially the people I do life with should never think: ‘Perry thinks he’s better than me.’ “

Jesus is really good at helping you sort out your emotions. Shawna realized that when her emotions feel like a jumbled up knot she hesitates to go to Jesus. She feels like she has to figure out what she’s feeling first.

As she was reading about Mary and Mary’s encounter with Jesus after he rose from the dead – how they were afraid and filled with joy – Shawna was encouraged to bring her knot of emotions to Jesus and let him help her untangle them.

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Even though each woman’s story is different, the challenges that follow an abortion can be similar. She may be asking herself questions such as: “How can I find healing and renewal for where I am now? How do I process all these emotions (anger, grief, numbness), and will I ever stop feeling this way?”

Camille Cates, author of Moving Forward After Abortion had some of those same questions following her own abortion. She discovered help, hope and healing in Christ.

From letting go of your expectation that God is going to get you for what you did, and trusting that His plans for you are good, to what it means to accept forgiveness from God and forgive yourself this conversation with Camille will help you move forward after abortion.

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When you’re on mission with Jesus, expect to be surprised by how he works through you. Like with Perry last Thursday at the fitness room as he had a super quick (45 seconds!), super cool, super satisfying chance to share Jesus. Expect to be surprised!

For years Shawna believed she was insignificant. To be more specific she believed that the world would be better if she wasn’t in it. But God met her in that moment. And the more she spent time with Him the more she became convinced that her life matters. God loves you and He wants you to know the truth of who you are.

Sin isn’t breaking the rules. Sin is wounding, tearing down, damaging someone created in the image of God. Perry reflects on how he wounded his bride one evening last year; and how failures like that make the gospel so beautiful to him.

Shawna was there when her grandbaby was born. There’s nothing quite as pure and beautiful as a new life. In a conversation with Nicodemus Jesus said to experience the Kingdom of God you must be born again. How?! That’s a fair question. What does it mean to be born again?

God told Perry to tell you something. What’s he up to now? Did somebody put something in his Kool-Aid??

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“I live by the Golden Rule – Do to others whet they do to you. That’s in the Bible!” Jamie said as she pointed at me. Y’all, that is NOT in the Bible. The Bible says, “Do to others what you would have them do to you.”

There are a lot of sound bites that may seem like they come from the Bible but they actually contradict the scriptures. If you and I are going to live our lives according to God’s Word we need to be in God’s Word so we know what it says.

Shame can be a cruel taskmaster, telling you, “You’re unforgiveable.” Or shame can drive us to prove we’re not unforgiveable. Or shame can remind us how much we need Jesus. Perry has experienced all 3 and is slowing learning to live in the 3rd. How??

In the movie Inside Out 2 Riley’s emotions take her experiences that cause her to feel deeply and release them into her core belief system. WE do this! The stories we tell ourselves become the stories we live out!

Shawna stumbled across a belief she had about herself that directly opposes what God says. She shares how through the Word, God is speaking truth into her heart about who she really is.

When God put’s dreams in your heart to bring life to your world, you’re going to face opposition. From the enemy, from your selfish motives, and from the temptation to impress the world. It’s a conversation on navigating this opposition and completing what God has called you to.

Then Perry and Shawna are both navigating tough conversations with their adult children. Where they miss the mark of loving their kids well. It’s a conversation on being humble and teachable when your kids are brave enough to share how you miss it with them.

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The thought “If you knew what I’ve done you wouldn’t love me” has entered Shawna’s mind a time or two. It drives her to believe she has to keep her sins hidden. But, what if being vulnerable about our worst moments allows us to be loved beyond our wildest dreams?

Jessie Minassian, blogger, speaker and author of Your Brightest Life, welcomes you, and especially the teenage young woman in your life to be honest and vulnerable with God and others.

Jessie says that the teenage girls in our lives are asking the same question. “Is there a God who will love me despite what I’ve done?”

They also are looking for answers to questions about boys, friends, health, mindset and more.

Jessie joins Perry and Shawna to share wisdom for the teenage girl in your life: Integrating faith into every area of life. What that deep sense that we were created for more points to. And how we can be a safe person a teenage young woman will open up to.

Also, in this episode, reading your Bible on the daily may not feel like it’s making much of a difference upfront, but over the long haul meeting with God as we read His Word shapes how we think and live.

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Franklin Graham, President of Samaritan’s Purse, a global Christian humanitarian organization that brings sustainable solutions to the world’s greatest problems, shares how when all seems lost and all your left with is disaster, that’s when people start searching, even if they don’t know what they’re looking for.

Norm Cruthers volunteers to work with Samaritan’s Purse, helping to do the work that needs to be done and praying with the people they serve.

On one visit to evaluate damage, Norm couldn’t help but share about Jesus with the homeowner. He later found out that right after he left she accepted Jesus as her savior.

To join the work Samaritan’s Purse is doing click here. Whether it’s prayer, a financial donation, or rolling up your sleeves and serving on site you can be a part of bringing the love of Christ to those whose lives have been devastated.

Also in this episode:

Shawna watched as the peace of Christ fell on a woman deeply grieving the loss of her husband. God wants to give you His perfect peace too.

Dodd shares how pouring himself into helping his kids with their new homes became a reminder of the importance of tending to your own home(spiritually speaking).

Lastly, Shawna shares how she couldn’t stop thinking about her husband when they first met. Love will do that to you. How do we keep our love for God aflame so that we want to meditate on his words day and night?

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It’s an amazing story of a missionary couple in Libya who stayed there when civil war broke out. They told their Muslim neighbors that Jesus would protect them.

And when they finally did leave these Muslim neighbors praised Jesus for doing exactly what their American friends had told them Jesus would do. The story in today’s podcast!

Maybe there are people in your life who are going hard after Jesus. We’re inspired by that kind of faith.

Todd Nettleton of VOM & author of When Faith Is Forbidden shares stories of incredible faith from around the world.

The Voice of the Martyrs (VOM) serves persecuted Christians in the world’s most difficult and dangerous places to follow Christ.

These are real people with real stories of courage for Christ. Stories like the daughter whose father severely beat her and married her off to an Islamic Extremist to get her to renounce her faith.

And the couple who went to Libya to set up a gospel lighthouse and desperately needed flour to feed their baby and God provided for them in the most unexpected and generous way. And so many more stories!

The 2025 VOM Global Prayer Guide gives you specific information about each country where Christians routinely face persecution and is a powerful tool to help us pray for our persecuted brothers and sisters.

It’s 100+ pages, full color, and perfect to set beside your Bible or in your prayer room to refer to throughout the year. And VOM is making it FREE for you!

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Judgment Day isn’t top of mind for most post-moderns. But there really is a day that God will call us to account for everything we’ve ever done, thought, or said. In the face of that sobering reality we really can live with no fear!

When the storms of life hit we can ask God for wisdom. As Shawna was driving home from work yesterday during a winter snow storm she was praying - asking God for wisdom in navigating the storm. We don’t have to navigate the storms of life on our own.

Perry and his buddies were talking with Coach K after basketball practice in high school. And Greg said “Coach, who are the best players you’ve ever coached?” Keep in mind Perry and his buddies were in the process of building a no win season. And what Coach K said in that moment from his heart deeply formed Perry’s identity.

When Shawna was a preschooler a visit from her friends took an unexpected turn that led her to believe, “friends will turn on you.” A story she wrote over her heart & over her life. The stories we tell ourselves are the stories we live out so it’s important to ask, “Do the stories I tell myself line up with what God says?”

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We want our homes to be blessings, refuges, places of vibrant faith. And we want our love for Jesus to be discovered and developed in our children. But many of us feel like we’re just not cutting it.

In Building Spiritual Habits in the Home, Chris Pappalardo and Clayton Greene, show how that can change.

We talk with Chris about how to tilt the floor in our favor when it comes to actually doing the things we want to do that nurture our own relationship with God and through us to our kids!

From good intentions to actual practice – simple spiritual habits for your home.

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When Jesus called his first disciples and said follow me, they heard those words of course but underneath those words the understood something deeper from Jesus, “Follow me and you will become just like me.” Perry first heard that call when his life was an thorough mess.

“You can’t handle the truth!!!” What an intense scene in A Few Good Men. The truth is the truth whether we believe it or not - but there are times that we struggle to see it for what it is. I think that’s because the truth confronts & displaces the lies. When the truth comes bursting through, the lies lose all their power. Jesus is the Truth and He speaks the Truth to you and me that we are loved, forgiven, and chosen to carry God’s love to the world.

Also in this podcast, The Chosen has brought the Bible to life for millions. Stan Jantz leads Come & See. He says “We’re on a mission to ensure that all 7 seasons of The Chosen are produced, translated into 600 languages, globally distributed, and free for all to see Jesus!”

Stan shares what Catholics in the Philippines are saying, “In watching The Chosen a veil has been lifted; we see Jesus as a person, not a symbol.” Muslims are saying, “I’ve been dreaming of Jesus and The Chosen has helped me understand my dreams and accept him!”

Andy was supposed to die of lung cancer by Christmas of 2023. But he’s still alive and it has much to do with The Chosen! And when a mom who’s 10 year old son is on the autistic spectrum saw the disciple Matthew who’s portrayed as being on the spectrum, she wept for an hour! And that 10 year old? Well you need to listen!

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Kids today are more anxious than ever. Why is that?

Clinical director of Counseling Services at Winning at Home, Emilie DeYoung, says two factors that are contributing significantly to mental health challenges are living in the digital age and living in an achievement oriented, performance-based culture.

She says that even in this age of influencers, parents remain the most important influencers and sources of support. Parents, you matter!!!

Emilie says that we can help our anxious kids learn resilience and gain confidence. We can also send the message of their worth by celebrating their character traits, like the fruit of the Spirit, rather than only seeing their accomplishments.

Perry opens up about a high schooler who recently found herself paralyzed by anxiety and unable to go to school. Emilie says it’s not uncommon for young people to feel overwhelmed by their commitments. They feel like they’re never enough. We can let them know they don’t have to do it all.

And our identity as “loved” is not dependent on our performance. Honestly, we need to hear that message as much as our anxious kids do.

Also in the podcast, the way of our culture does not lead us to God. At the beginning of 2025 Shawna is asking God to reorder her desires. She knows it will come with opposition because it’s the opposite of the direction the world is going, but He’s so worthy of it. Jesus is worth it!

And last, when we’re on mission with Jesus, he will prompt us toward open doors. Perry shares the story of how the Spirit prompted him to show up at the home of his college basketball coach, and the amazing way God worked in that!

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Perry had just gotten off a depressing phone call. He walked into the living room and suddenly shared a bible verse with his brothers. And that’s when, with his mind’s eye, he saw a wall of fire around him.

If you’re waiting for permission to be about the ministry – you’ve already got it! Wherever you go today you represent Jesus. Shawna shares a time when she prayed for a young man in Trader Joe’s. Go be the good news today – wherever the day takes you!

It was a sunshiny morning in northern Michigan. Perry was 6 hears old. And Jesus called him by name. At the time he didn’t realize it, but looking back he knows it was the Lord calling him into new creation.

Maybe you’ve sacrificed a lot so others can know Jesus. Shawna has a friend who lives in a country that doesn’t value women and she was so touched by her willingness to self-sacrifice so others could know God. But that’s the way of Jesus. That’s the way we are called to live as those who follow Him.

It’s a wrestling that’s been going on for quite a few years for Perry. “Am I giving my family enough of me with all the other really good things that I have on my plate. Lord am I in the center of your will for me?”

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When Shawna wasn’t invited to the New Year’s Eve party her friends were going to, she felt unwanted. And the more she thought about what happened to her (not being invited) the more it became what she believed about herself (left out and unwanted). We are not what’s been done to us. We are chosen!

Shawna and Perry shares stories of how they each recently hurt a dear friend. It’s a conversation about being secure enough in God’s love for us that we can own where we’ve hurt others and make it an opportunity to grow more like Jesus.

If you feel like your prayers are hitting the ceiling; those prayers you’ve prayed for maybe years and nothing’s changing. God wants you to know, “I hear you and keep on praying!”

The other day Perry’s suffering friend said to him, “This place where I live wants to feel really dark.” And it just reflects the deep emotional pain that his friend suffers and how the enemy plays on his weakness. It makes Perry sad to see his friend suffer yet he still has hope. How?

There is a beautiful passion awakened in us when we see Jesus for who He is for the first time. We’re hungry to know Him more! And that fire burning in new believers fans the flame burning in seasoned believers, like me! Like YOU!

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There is a surge of applications for divorce in the month of January. Why is that?

Hayley Scully of Hope for the Heart shares that the same new sense of courage that causes us to dive into a radical diet plan may be behind what is known as “Divorce January.”

Then, Perry and Shawna listener Jermaine has gone through a divorce he didn’t want and he’s in a season of deep sadness. He wonders if hoping for remarriage should be a goal at all.

Marriage is hard. It just is. How do you know if what you’re going through is just “normal” or if it’s time to get help? Before we book an appointment with a marriage counselor are there other resources that could be helpful?

Divorce is more painful than the death of a spouse. In the aftermath of divorce it’s dark and it may seem like it will be dark forever. If that’s the season you’re in you may be asking, “Will the sun ever break through the clouds of my life again?”

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If you’ve got questions about scripture, we’ve got answers. Well, Jeremy does.

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at a local seminary for nearly 15 years. He takes on your Bible questions in this episode.

Here’s what you asked:

  • As Christians we are supposed to love one another, be kind and gentle. However, there are evil people in this world, narcissists that just want to devour you. When do you protect your heart? When do you stand up for yourself and not just get rolled over and taken advantage of once again?
  • If God tells us to not commit murder how does that work with war? And does that mean people in the Army are sinning?
  • Since God is "all knowing " why is there going to be a judgement day?
  • Help me explain how Old Testament Believers are saved versus being saved through belief and faith in JESUS.....
  • In Revelation 22:2 the leaves were used for medicine to heal the nations. If they are already in heaven, isn't healing already there? What do the leaves have to do with it?

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Pride can ruin a good thing. Perry admits it was ruining his relationship with Shawna.

So often when we feel offended, we get defensive and power up. But in scripture we’re told, “If you’ve got it in you, get along with everybody”. Do we have it in us to get along with everybody?

It was an April evening of Perry’s sophomore year at Olivet. He was driving back to campus from his girlfriend’s house when he saw a farmer driving his tractor in his field and it made him think, “My life needs to change.”

Within days of being diagnosed with a brain tumor Shawna’s friend courageously shared she was choosing to praise God whether she was healed or not. Like Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego, we are not alone in the fire. It’s Jesus WITH US who gives us the courage to say, “Even if…I will praise God.”

Lastly, financial advisor, Rob West, of Faith and Finance Live, imparts wisdom regarding lending money to friends, budgeting that will last beyond most New Year’s resolutions, and whether or not now is a good time to buy a house.

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Growing up with an alcoholic father, Melissa struggled from a young age with feelings of fear and abandonment and yearned for acceptance. During her teen years, however, she found a temporary escape through alcohol, and the consequences quickly consumed fifteen years of her life – blackouts, withdrawals, run-ins with the law, reckless behavior, and overwhelming guilt.

Melissa Huray, Emmy-award winning news reporter turned addiction counselor, and author of the 365 day devotional Radical Freedom: Breaking the chains of Addiction for Good opens up about how she found radical freedom through surrender.

With the wisdom and training of a counselor and the heart of understanding of one who suffered from addiction, Melissa talks openly with Perry and Shawna about shame, the need for community in your recovery, and how God can take even our worst mistakes and use them for good.

Also in this podcast, when Perry’s daughter Kali Joy was 16 she prayed, “Lord I want to know what it looks like to live like I have nothing to lose.” The Lord answered that prayed in a really painful yet powerful way that not only affected Kali but also the rest of the family. It pushed this truth more deeply into their hearts, “To live is Christ, to die is gain.”

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That’s what Jeannie found herself praying just after she woke a couple weeks ago. She sensed a distance.

Sometimes we know that God is right here, right now. And sometimes we feel like he’s far away. Is it a matter of trusting what we know or is it a prompt to turn from sin in our lives?

Jeannie Cunnion, author of Closer to God: a 40 Day Pursuit of God’s Personal Presence says it could be both!

Jeannie shares, “I spent my whole life till I was 25 performing for Jesus!” It’s a conversation about the massive difference between religion and the gospel.

One of the benefits of the closeness of God is His empowering presence. Shawna shares a time she was battling what she should do vs. what she wanted to do and asked the Holy Spirit to help her. And He did!

As a teenager Perry’s dad was in the confession booth and noticed a cross with lipstick on it. In that moment he thought of the passage, “My people honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me.” It’s a conversation about how repentance is meant to be life-giving, not something we do to get God to love us.

Also in this podcast:

When you’re in the presence of God you will know His purpose for your life. In The Message’s version of John 15:17 Jesus invites us into an intimate and organic relationship with Him. As we learn to do life with God, He will lead us into our God-given purpose day by day.

Last, one evening when Perry was 18, he was playing hoops. He went up for a rebound and came down on somebody’s foot. That excruciatingly painful ankle sprain turned the trajectory of Perry’s life toward Jesus.

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Scott Curtis’ radio career has drawn to a close at 89.3 Moody Radio Grand Rapids. It’s been 35 plus years of steady, “never-say-die” ministry for Scott. But there were really hard seasons. Like the 8 years he worked alone at 89.3.

There were moments in that span when yes, he “just got downright depressed.” But one thing always lifted him out of the dark: It’s a conversation about how small acts of kindness can make all the difference.

Scott’s career has been one marked by humility, by his stepping back from the spotlight to work more and more behind the scenes. He willingly stepped back when Perry joined the team and then when Shawna joined. Scott’s career path gives us a path to follow in a world where “It’s all about me.”

Scott had good reason to believe that WGNB might become a repeater station for Moody. At just the right time God provided above and beyond what was needed to keep us on the air. Scott reflects on God’s faithfulness and how just when you think it’s over, it’s just beginning.

In the nearly 8 years that Scott was the only person manning the station he experienced the power of community from a faraway friend who made some phone calls to get Scott the help he desperately needed.

If Scott’s ministry has encouraged you, text him at 800.968.8930!

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What are you hoping for this Christmas? Shawna is hoping for good rest. What she really needs is God rest. Rest for her soul! It’s the gift God wants to give you!

After a life-time of trial and error Perry is convinced, “My performance will never get me the verdict that I’m a good person.” There is only one way to get that longed-for verdict.

Sometimes we choose to take matters into our own hands rather than trusting God. Because of a traumatic experience with her daughter’s dog, Shawna vowed never to buy green grapes ever again! Vows are ways of baking into our hearts, “God, I don’t really trust you.”

During the last 3 years of Perry’s mom’s life, she descended into the fog of some dementia. At she began the descent, she admitted to Perry’s dad, “I just don’t think I want to go on living.” But then 8 words from Jesus gave her the strength to go on.

“I don’t need you to rescue me!” comes from deep within Shawna. She resisted every offer for help when she got stuck in the ditch during a snowstorm even though there was no way she would get out on her own. Rescue starts with laying down our pride.

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Jesus came to us as a baby at Christmas time. And Jesus still comes intimately close to us now.

Sometimes He comes into the darkness reminding us that He is the Light of the World.

Steve Norman of Winning at Home & host of The New Norm Podcast has written a devotional to help us ready our hearts to celebrate Jesus’ coming. It’s called Countdown to Christmas.

At a time when he was sitting in physical darkness and feeling ashamed, Jesus came to Steve through the words of his 4-year-old son singing, “This Little Light of Mine.”

As Steve was hitting the wall in the 17th mile of a marathon he was ill-prepared to run, Jesus ran next to him through words of encouragement from fellow runners.

Jesus comes and meets us where we are. Eugene Peterson says in The Message “The Word became flesh and blood, and moved into the neighborhood.”

Jesus is Immanuel, God with us!

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That’s what the last couple years for Perry has felt like. Starting in 2021 with a 90% blockage in his Widow-Maker artery. But Perry can honestly say, “I’m thankful for every hardship.” What?? It’s because of what God does in us through our suffering. That he can’t do any other way.

For some, Christmas is not the most wonderful time of the year. Shawna asked a friend how she could pray for her and she immediately teared up. Jesus, Immanuel, Joy of the world, is with us in our sadness too.

Perry and Shawna listener Brian texted them in September saying, “Please pray for me, I have a really bad disease.” And 3 months later Brian was gone. Perry went to pay his respects this past Monday and as he walked back to his car it felt like death was on him like a heavy blanket. The blanket lifted as he thought of some words of hope from Aslan!

Everything seems bigger at Christmastime. The good things seem better. The hardships seem greater. Christmas doesn’t create our problems or improve our lives – it simply amplifies what already is. Christmas was never intended to magnify us. This Christmas let’s magnify the One Christmas is all about.

Before Perry was 25, God had blessed him with some amazing open doors for the Kingdom. And then, that season was over and he found himself cleaning toilets. Super humbling. It wasn’t anything Perry had chosen. But for Jesus he gave up all his glory willingly, for us!

Jesus’ birth was not His beginning. He always has been and always will be. Jesus came to give us eternal life. Only an eternal being could offer an eternal gift.

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This painfully describes the journey of the Jewish people. From the destruction of the Temple, and Jerusalem in 70 AD, the journey has been brutal. Perry first asks Middle East expert Charlie Dyer:

“What happened with the Jews between Jerusalem’s destruction by the Romans in 70 AD and their restoration to the land in 1948?” It’s a profound flyover of that long and torturous journey.

Dr. Charlie Dyer, Middle East scholar at Moody Bible institute and the host of The Land and the Book on Moody Radio has authored a ton of books including an revised version of Who Owns the Land—An In-Depth Look at the Truth Behind the Middle East Conflict.

Shawna then asks, “Why should we expect non-believers to accept God’s promise of the land to Israel?”

Also we hear the story of a Messianic Jew knocking on the door of an Arab Muslim in Tel Aviv who was so hungry to know about Jesus. Pointing to the ultimate hope for the Middle East: The gospel!

And Perry asks Charlie, “If you had the power to make a decision tomorrow about who owns the land and where Jews should live and where Palestinians should live, what would you do?”

Though his answer puts Israel in her land because of God’s promises, it doesn’t include driving out all non-Jews. An answer we actually find in the earlies pages of the bible.

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After years of drug addiction, losing custody of her children, and cycling in and out of prison, Sheaveal hit rock bottom. One night, convinced she’d die from an overdose, she prayed to God. The next morning, she woke up knowing she had been saved.

That same day, she was arrested and spent five and a half years in prison. There, through Prison Fellowship’s Angel Tree program, Sheaveal reconnected with her children and began rebuilding her family.

Today, she works with Angel Tree to help other families heal.

You can be a part of bringing joy to children this Christmas. Deliver a present, the Gospel, and a message of love for a child with a parent in prison by going to Prison Fellowship’s Angel Tree.

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You don’t have to wait till heaven to have all your questions answered! Dr. J joins the team to answer bible questions today.

Dr. Jeremy GrinnelI earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology in West Michigan for nearly 15 years.

Here’s what Jeremy and the team take on:

Perry and Shawna listener Chris says, “1 John 1:9 tells me that If we confess our sins God will forgive, but there are other passages in 1 John that seem to say there shouldn’t be any sin in my life. I’m not sinless but I’m worried that I’m supposed to be??”

Also Kristin asks, “If in heaven we are rewarded based on our faithfulness, will there be jealousy for those whose rewards are less than others?”

Also Kudzi asks, “Who changed the 7th day sabbath day to the 1st day? Can that be supported biblically when the initial sabbath day that God had blessed was the 7th day?”

Then, “Joseph is obviously a big part of Jesus’ coming as a baby, but the last mention of him seems to be when he and Mary realized they had left Jesus behind when he was 12. What happened to Joseph?”

Last, Chris asks, “How old is the book of Job?” Jeremy answers this and then brings a ton more insight into the book of Job.

Jeremy answers these questions with the knowledge of a scholar and the heart of one saved by grace.

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Shawna was struggling to love someone abrasive, so she asked God to show her how that person is made in God’s image. And He did!

Dr. Matt Billers, counselor with Winning at Home, shares that different as we are, all of us are made in God’s image. Some of us are thinkers, some feelers, and others, doers. And we connect with God and one another from that place.

In fact, your favorite verse or verses can tell you a lot about your personality and how you connect with God. And knowing that can help you connect with others.

Matt shares how knowing your personality can help you prepare now to deal with the difficult person you’re going to be with this Christmas.

And as we wrap up 2024, Matt offers great wisdom for reflecting with God on this past year and identifying a theme to lean into in 2025.

Also, in this episode, Shawna reflects on all the ways throughout time that God has been with us. It’s consistent with who He is! Though loneliness is a real feeling, it’s not our reality. There is a truer truth!

Lastly, when you don’t have the strength, or the hope to even pray, we get to pray for one another. Like Moses, when he got tired of raising his arms during the battle and others came alongside him and helped him keep his arms raised, we get to lift up one another in prayer, believing together for breakthrough.

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That was Perry’s impatient response when he was asked by Teresa for some help putting batteries in their Christmas candles. And Perry wonders, “With my little grumbles and my faceplant sins, how will I ever be blameless at the coming of Jesus?”

There are times that - what’s happening inside of us - just has to be spoken. Like when that lady behind you in church shouts, “AMEN!” When we truly understand who God is, when we fix our eyes on Him…His love, His glory, His power… we can’t NOT worship Him.

It was August of 2020, a beautiful backyard wedding for Perry’s son Taylor. And as Bri came down the aisle Taylor began to weep, to marvel. When we see Jesus at his second coming we will marvel, and so will Jesus!

When Shawna hears what God has done for you, she has hope that he could do that for her too. When the angel appeared to Mary and told her that she would become pregnant as a virgin she went from “HOW?” to “May it be to me as you have said.” And the thing in between was a testimony. Somebody who needs hope today, needs to hear your story.

Perry was driving north to Cheboygan on a Christmas Eve in a snowstorm when the reality of Christmas hit him deep. When that happens, we know we’ll give the rest of our lives to serve the Shepherd King of Israel.

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As she was singing the words, “I don’t want anyone else. I don’t need anything else,” the Lord showed Shawna the people and the things that had taken His place in her heart the past few days. He’s so loving to tell us the truth. Nothing and no one can quench our greatest thirst, only Jesus can.

The show had just started a couple weeks ago, Scott was talking and at that moment the enemy accused Perry an ancient sin. And it rocked him back on his heals. What do we do when that happens??

Everyone is going through something. On her knees in her office surrounded by a mess of spilled pomegranate arils, Shawna wanted to cry as she thought, “this is my life right now.” You never know what someone is up against. Be kind today.

A few months back Perry said some honest but angry words to his bride Teresa. They quickly made peace but Perry knew he’d wounded with his words. He went to bed and had a restless night. And in his fitful sleep he had a dream, of grace.

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Perry has been walking with a suffering friend with deep emotional and spiritual pain for 40 years. He longs to feel safe with God but because of his wounds, doesn’t.

Recently Perry told his friend, “You’re going to get better,” and he really believes that. Cause even though God moves slow, not one of his promises will fail.

If Shawna were sitting across the table from Mary before the angel appeared to her she wonders if Mary would’ve excitedly shared her plans to marry Joseph…who was invited to the wedding, where it was going to be held, and how she envisioned her life going.

Shawna’s sure Mary dreamt of what her life would be like. But upon hearing the news of God’s plan for her life she immediately responded, “I am the Lord’s servant.” How do we respond when God’s plan is different from ours?

Also, maybe you could use a little courage today. Shawna has been inspired by her friend’s courage in the face of relational hardship. God not only commands us to be courageous, He also promises to be with us and gives us a spirit of courage.

And last, singer-songwriter Jason Gray shares how he lost his faith because he thought God would save his marriage, but didn’t. He started making plans for life without God and then this happened.

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When Jess Ronne, author of Caregiving with Grit and Grace, was 7 months pregnant, she was told that her child wouldn’t live. She attended a healing service and with tear-stained cheeks and all the faith she could muster she cried out to God to heal her unborn child.

He didn’t. At least not the way she had hoped.

And in that one unanswered prayer Jess found peace. In that peace, she found freedom.

When faced with the choice to carry a baby that doctors said she shouldn’t, Jess shares how God doesn’t call us to a life of choosing what is easy but rather to a life of choosing hard obedience.

Lucas was born with many special needs, and Jess was there to meet them.

Years into her life as a caregiver her husband Jason was diagnosed with cancer and eventually lost that battle.

As she cared for her husband and her son, Jess learned to keep her eyes on Jesus, the storm calmer, rather than the storm.

And on one of the hardest days as a caregiver, God reminded Jess that her work as a caregiver, messy as it is, is holy work.

The demands of caregiving can often leave you feeling exhausted, isolated, stressed, or unappreciated. Jess Ronne understands. Through her journey, she’s experienced God’s grace, fulfillment, and blessings. In the pages of Jess’ book you just might experience Him too.

Also in the podcast, the change of seasons highlight how some things haven’t changed. It can bring a sense of hopelessness. How long, Lord. Shawna shares how lamenting to God about the things you hoped would be different draws us closer to Him and strengthens us for the journey – however long it may be.

“I felt so much peace in this person.” A guest entered the studio and immediately Shawna felt the peace of Christ in Him. She felt more at peace just being in the same room as him. And it made her wonder, ”Do others experience Jesus in me?”

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No one wants a demotion, it’s one of the worst things! And yet Jesus chose one, for us. He choose to leave the joy of the dance of love between himself, the Father, and the Spirit to come into the mess or your and my life.

A couple weeks ago, right at the start of the show, the enemy accused Perry of an ancient sin. It caused him to stagger backward and it hung on him all day. Perry shares, “I know what the enemy is trying to do, he wants me to chase down old sins, to get me trying to fix myself, to get me into self-salvation mode.

Shawna admits, “I don’t like to face my painful feelings but that’s exactly what the Lord is calling me into. He’s asking me to lament the things in my life that I can’t control and change.”

And Rob West, host of Faith and Finance Live joins us with insights on how to keep Jesus the main thing in the chaos of the Christmas season, how to stay out of debt in this gift-giving time of year, and how to teach our generosity.

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That’s what a Jewish attorney said to David after reading Jesus’ words from the cross, “My God, my God, why have you forsaken me?” He reasoned that no Messiah would say that.

What this attorney didn’t realize was that Jesus was quoting Psalm 22 which is one of THE most compelling prophecies pointing to Jesus as Messiah! We kick of the podcast with this story.

David Brickner of Jews For Jesus joins us with a conversation around his latest book, Does the Jewish Bible Point To Jesus: 12 Key Prophecies That Unfold God’s Plan.

Also we hear the story of David making the case for Christ with the late Larry King of Larry King Live. And how the carol, “O Little Town of Bethlehem” led to a world-wide movement to reach Jews for Jesus.

Also David unpacks the first prophecy of a Messiah from Gen. 3:15. David shares his story of being raised in a family of Jews for Jesus and why he initially walked away from Him.

And we talk about how vital it is to preach the love of God to ourselves and we hear about the hunger for Jesus that has emerged of out of the horror of October 7th in Israel. If you’re encouraged, please share!

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Chuck was in his first pastorate, crushing it, seeing lives restored. Then he had a disagreement with the senior pastor and was fired. He was livid, wanted justice, andstuffed all the painful emotions. Eventually he ended up in a hospital, terribly ill because “the body does keep score.”

Chuck DeGroat is the Pastor of Pastoral Care and Christian Spirituality at Western Theological Seminary, Holland, MI. We have a powerful conversation about his latest book, Healing What’s Within: Coming Home to Yourself, and to God, When You’re Wounded, Weary, and Wandering.

Also in this healing conversation, when Chuck was younger and read the 3 questions God asked Adam and Eve after they fell, “Where are you? Who told you were naked? And did you eat of the tree?" Chuck took those questions as coming from an angry God.

Now he understands these are questions God asks us to invite us back home into his perfect love. Share this life-giving conversation!

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He didn’t connect with religion and had no interest in Christianity. Then Jesus love broke through and he knew he’d be a pastor.

Grant & Eden Armstrong, Shawna’s daughter and son in law are doing ministry in Toowoomba, Australia.

They join us to share what they’ve learned in their first four months as parents, the intentional rhythms they’ve set up as a family for spiritual formation, why hospitality is so important to them as Christ followers, and how they are humbly inviting people to watch them follow Jesus.

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Jesus is showing still showing up in Muslims’ dreams in the Middle East.

Todd Nettleton of Voice of the Martyrs just returned from meeting up with persecuted Christians in the Middle East and though he’s heard many stories of Jesus dreams, what struck him this time is the specific message Jesus is sharing with Muslims in their dreams.

We hear about the Jesus follower who when it was time to pay for his food at the market was asked by the Muslim cashier, “Do you have peace in your heart??”

Then the cost of following Jesus for one family has been living without the head of their family for years because this man gave his life over to Jesus and had to flee for his life.

Also we hear about the Jesus follower who every time he meets up with a Muslim farmer is asked, “Will you pray for me in Jesus’ name?”

And Todd was able to gather in worship with an illegal house church whose worship was so loud Todd thought to himself, “Maybe we ought to quiet this down a bit!”

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Loneliness is a beast that feeds on moments unshared, on the laughter that echoes only in memory, and on the yearning for touch that remains unmet.

It slinks into the spaces left by absence, growing larger as hope diminishes. Its breath is cold, whispering doubts that erode self-worth and whispering lies that amplify the void.

Yet, like all beasts, it can be challenged. It retreats in the presence of light—the light of vulnerability, connection, and courage. Though its grip is fierce, it is not unbreakable.

To conquer loneliness is to first name it, to call it out of the shadows and to face it with the strength of reaching out. Jesus Christ, the light of the world, knows what if feels like to be alone and gives us power to walk us into the light of connection.

Author and pastor Mike Novotny joins the team to shine a light on the pathway out of loneliness with a conversation about his new book Lonely Less: 6 Steps to a Less Lonely Life. Share this please!

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Mitch grew up in a Jewish family in Brooklyn. The only people who survived Hitler from his grandparent’s generation was his grandparents. He was raised to believe that Christians murdered and hated Jews. Today, he’s a follower of Jesus. Wait, what?? Yep.

Dr. Mitch Glasser, President of Chosen Peoples Ministries joins the team to share how Yeshua, the Messiah of Israel and of the world found the “least likely guy to follow Jesus.”

We also talk about the spiritual awakening to Jesus that’s happening across the world as Jews embrace Jesus as Messiah. And how that’s connected to The Second Coming of Jesus!

And we drill deep into the reasons for the rise in antisemitism and find that it’s rooted in the enemy’s hatred of God, and in God’s plan to repair the world. This is a riveting conversation. Please share!

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Today’s podcast is profound and not for little ears.

When it’s an issue outside of your personal life it may seem very clear to you what you “ought to do.” But when the issue enters your dearest relationships it is much more complex.

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at the graduate level for nearly 15 years. He’s the author of The Bellowing of Cain.

With the education of a scholar and the heart of Jesus he takes on your bible questions.

This is what Jeremy helps us understand:

“Our daughter is 25 and transgender. How do you deal with people thinking you are not being Christian for not just accepting her and calling her, her new name?”

“Suffering is presented as an inevitability in life and an intimate connection with Christ. Choosing to walk in intimacy through suffering is so hard. Resentment and surprise/shock seem to be natural responses. My natural response leads to death in so many ways. Why is it so difficult to choose life, intimacy, wisdom, while walking in suffering?”

And Steve, a Perry and Shawna listener asks, “Will heaven stay the same or will it change over time. Will we grow, learn, change, build, create, discover, travel, will it be boring??”

And last, “Does God use the accusations of our conscience and of the enemy to purify us of pride and cause us to more deeply treasure Jesus.” Or are there some things in your life God can’t use to change us for the good?

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With a great big to-do list this Christmas it’s possible to miss the moments and the people that matter most.

Emilie DeYoung is the clinical director of Counseling Services at Winning at Home.

She helps us to see the importance of being present with ourselves, with others and with God this holiday season.

By paying attention to yourself (being kind to yourself), and to God (receiving his love) you can learn to give those you love the most the most precious gift you have to give, your presence!

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Perry admits, “I can’t remember the last time I wept about how much Jesus loves me and how much he loves the world. Like the Grinch, my heart needs to be enlarged.”

Shawna has a high value on being prepared. Before public speaking she spends hours studying, researching, and constructing her message. Over the weekend the person scheduled to speak on Sunday morning fell ill. Shawna, with less than 12 hours of prep, had to stand in and share the message. It was a sacrifice to serve without all the “necessary” preparation. When was the last time you sacrificed for God?

Gospel literally means, “Good news.” The word was stolen by Paul from the Roman Empire. Paul was saying to Rome and to every other ideology up to the present day, “If you think you’ve got good news, yours is not even close to the gospel of Jesus Christ!”

Each of us must come to the place in life where we decide to follow Jesus. And every day thereafter we choose again and again, in a hundred small ways each day, to walk with Jesus.

Though his body and mind were failing in his final days Shawna’s dad was able to recite scripture without hesitation. In one of their last moments together he confidently told Shawna, “The Lord is my shepherd. I have everything I need…” and continued to recite all of Psalm 23.

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Does the idea of a “quiet time” or “devotions” bring up feelings of guilt or shame? Or does it simply sound boring to you?

What if you could meet with Jesus in a way that literally brings you joy? What if instead of guilt and shame you were filled with anticipation at the very thought of being with God?

That is what God invites us into. And Asheritah Ciuciu shows us how.

In her new book, Delighting in Jesus, Asheritah Ciuciu shows us that joy originates from God, pulses at the heart of the gospel, and is promised to us as fruit from God’s Spirit.

From a foundation of how we uniquely connect with God we can establish Rhythms of Delight that allow us to connect with God from where we are and find in Him the desires of our heart.

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Shawna lost her cool. Usually, she is hyper focused on connecting with others in a meaningful way, but when her emotions got really BIG the person who triggered her anger became the enemy.

CHRIS COURSEY is an ordained minister, pastoral counselor, published author, and international speaker. He and his wife, Jen, lead and design the THRIVE Training Program that uses brain-based exercises to train leaders, families, and communities in the 19 relational skills and the Immanuel Lifestyle. They are passionate about helping people acquire the skills to make relationships work.

Chris shares that our emotions are not bad. They are meant to help us connect with others. When our brain can’t manage what we feel our brain slips into enemy mode rather than joy-fueled relational mode. Relational mode is where we live from the heart Jesus gave us.

Chris gives us practical steps we can take when we feel stuck in enemy mode to return to engaging with others in a relational way. Ultimately, being our true self.

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It’s so easy to take ourselves too seriously. It’s okay to laugh at ourselves!

Babylon Bee is helping us to do that while causing us to think about real issues with their laugh-out-loud fake news stories.

Joel Barry is one of the comedic geniuses behind the world-famous satirical news website – Babylon Bee – and coauthor of The Babylon Bee Guide to the Apocalypse.

While other books just tell you that we’re doomed and the collapse of western civilization is imminent, only The Babylon Bee Guide to the Apocalypse gives you the tools you need to survive it. If you don’t buy a copy, it’s not like it’s the end of the world. Oh, wait – it is. 😁

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Each of us, regardless of our upbringing, must make a decision to follow Jesus. For Shawna it was the moment she prayed, “Even if my family turns away, I will keep following you Jesus.”

Perry shares, “The only reason I love Jesus and want to share him with others is because he loved me at my worst. I need to come back to the simplicity of that.”

Perry says, “the feelings of shame once told me, ‘what you’ve done wrong is who you are and who you’ll always be.’ I now know for certain that’s a lie; and that’s a gamechanger when I still feel shame.”

When we’re going through hard times, we often question God’s goodness. We stand at a crossroads and are forced to choose what we believe about God. Why do some people come through the hardships stronger?

There are times when we are so weak, so afraid, that we struggle to even pray. In those times you can pray a powerful one word prayer that Shawna learned when she was afraid.

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E.Z. has endured his own spiritual battles in life. By 15 years old, he had been expelled from two schools, joined the Crips gang, was a rap artist who struggled with substance abuse. He later attempted suicide in front of his family.

In 1991, he underwent a profound transformation after hearing the gospel and turned his life over to Christ. By twenty-one, E.Z. was an ordained pastor attending a Christian university, married, and had started a family.

Emeal “E.Z.” Zwayne is the president of Living Waters (with Ray Comfort), and author of Fight Like a Man: A Bold, Biblical Battle Plan for Personal Purity that presents biblical truths and strategies to combat the enemies of purity.

Whether the battle is with lust, pornography, sex outside marriage, or adultery and despite how many times we’ve failed to overcome sexual sin, E.Z. assures us that hope is available through the love, forgiveness, and grace of God, which were demonstrated through the death and resurrection of Christ.

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Why is everyone so angry all the time?

Dr. Jim Wilder of Life Model Works and author of Escaping Enemy Mode: How Our Brains Unite or Divide Us offers that it’s because we are in enemy mode.

There are different types of enemy mode.

Simple Enemy Mode is when our brains see the person in front of us as a problem to be solved. In that moment, we are not loving others like Jesus does.

Stupid Enemy mode is when we respond out of the heat of the moment in a way doesn’t represent who we truly are – we do something “stupid” that we later regret.

Intelligent Enemy Mode is when we strategize how to make others lose. We are so focused on #1 that we plan how to use others hurts to hurt them as a means of self-protection.

We can easily slip into enemy mode but must intentionally work our way out of it. The good news is, we can learn how to do that! And if we learn to do that, we could change the world!

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If you are a Christian who battles to live into your God-given identity you’re not alone. Shawna shares how her girlhood dream was to sing the world into love relationship with God. She knew how to package her dream to look good to Christians but it was much more about desiring the praise of others than praising God.

Last, Perry’s coming back to the heart of worship. He prays, “Lord I’m sorry for making it about me so many times. Forgive me. Like the Grinch, enlarge my heart. Baptize me again in your love and break my heart for a lost world.”

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Mark Clark grew up in Toronto with no church, no faith, completely skeptical and with an atheist father. He didn’t believe in the resurrection because his modern mind couldn’t believe in miracles plus he was just offended by Jesus teachings. And now he’s a pastor.

Wait, what? Mark’s a pastor at Bayside Church in Sacramento and has written some powerful books including The Problem of Jesus: Answering a Skeptics' Challenges to the Scandal of Jesus.

Then Shawna’s daughter who lives in the Czech Republic is home! Yesterday Shawna and Bryn ran errands together. Facetime is great but being WITH her is way better! Through the Holy Spirit we get to be WITH God - all day - every day!

Next, every single person in the world is a disciple. Every single person is being formed by some world view. The process of being a disciple of Jesus is being deprogrammed from the ideologies of the world and then into the Jesus way.

Then, I don’t know if you’ve ever been blindsided by life’s storms. Yesterday a friend shared with Shawna that their marriage is struggling. The storms of life can come up out of nowhere and blindside us. Jesus offers a peace to us that the world cannot offer, and the world cannot take. No matter what is going on in the world, or your world, you can still experience peace today.

Last, with yesterday’s US election there are certainly people on the right who are saying, “We beat those losers.” And then people on the left saying, “Those uneducated barbarians have ruined our country.” What’s at the root of both of these sentiments is pride. Something Jesus is very much against. It’s a conversation about religion/politics and the gospel.

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Shawna jumped up and wrapped a stranger in a hug so she could whisper in her ear, “Your zipper’s down.” She wanted her to know the truth. God is the friend who will always lovingly tell you the truth.

Perry shares, “I wonder if you’ve ever felt like giving up. I have.” Perry’s been in a season of wrestling with regrets and wondering if his work is making any difference.

As Shawna was promising her daughter that she would never leave her, their hands ripped apart and they went in completely opposite directions. Epic Mom fail! Shawna’s so grateful that God keeps His promises.

The way of Jesus in not climbing the ladder of success. It’s descending down into the pit where he shows us just how much he loves us and it’s where he molds us into people who can heal our world.

Shawna’s been wrestling with anxiety. Perry’s been wrestling with regret. And yet they both share, “I’ve got peace that makes no sense.” A conversation about how that’s even possible.

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That’s the overflow of singer-songwriter Rebecca St. James’ heart as she reflects on Jesus believing in her and her family, giving them a hope and a future only he could have provided.

Singer-songwriter Rebecca Saint James is here! In case you don’t know the film Unsung Hero tells her family’s incredible story.

In 1990, after his music company fails, David Smallbone and his pregnant wife Helen take a leap of faith, moving their seven children from Australia to Nashville.

With only their luggage, a love for music, and unbreakable faith, they set out to rebuild their lives.

In the rebuilding Rebecca lands a record deal at 16, paving the way for her brothers, Joel and Luke, to later form For King & Country.

Rebecca shares why she cries every time she watches Unsung Hero. Perry shares why he cried during the film (It was something that moved his father’s heart for his daughter.)

Rebecca shares how she and her husband are trying to build a home where their kids can feel safe to come to them about anything.

We do talk about how Jesus believes in us and calls out the not yet in us. And Rebecca’s shares how a John Mark Comer book has transformed her hurry up life.

Also, join us for “Christmas with Rebecca St. James” in December here in West MI!

Last, Perry and Shawna share about the undercurrents of lies they believe that the Spirit is bringing to light.

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Your kids will always be your kids. The trick is figuring out how to adapt to the new phases in that parent-child relationship.

Dr. Gary Chapman, author of The Five Love Languages, has written a new book with Dr. Ross Campbell called Your New Life with Adult Children: A Practical Guide to What Helps, What Hurts, and What Heals.

Whether it’s not agreeing with the decisions they make, failure to launch, or strained relationships with your kid’s spouse’s Dr. Chapman offers sage wisdom.

Maybe you feel like you failed in parenting, or you just struggle to know how to love your adult children well. Dr. Chapman addresses all these issues and more.

He assures us that it is possible to love your adult child without losing your mind, your heart, your money, or your sanity.

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When you come to the place that you simply cannot do any more – that may be where you feel the most vulnerable. But that seems to be when we lean wholeheartedly into trusting God – and there isn’t anything that He can’t do!

As much as we don’t want to look at our sin it’s important for us to realize how sin impacts us - our sin, the sins of others, and the sin of the world.

The people around us influence us. It’s important to realize that we are shaped by who we spend our time with. The good news is that we can spend time with God and be influenced by Him!

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Singer and songwriter, Mac Powell, who used to be with Third Day, joins us today to share how he came to give his life to Jesus and what it cost him to do so.

His music is reaching the generations with the good news that Jesus changes us and makes us a New Creation.

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What you think is true is reel. What really is true is real. What our eyes see physically and what our thoughts tell us can seem so real. But there’s a deeper truth that our physical eyes and subconscious beliefs cannot see. Only the eyes of our heart can see what is truly real.

In other words, much of what we think is true – is a lie.

Jody Hoffman, coach with Identity Exchange, shares that when her husband, Buddy went to be with Jesus she found herself “alone.” That is what her eyes could see.

God showed her a deeper truth – that she never was and never would be alone. She was WITH. With the Father, Son and Holy Spirit.

Also, in this episode Shawna challenges us to partner with God in being transformed rather than running from concert to conference to retreat hoping to get zapped by the Holy Spirit.

And last Perry was asked recently “How’re ya doing?” And he’s been going through a season of struggle so naturally he said, “I’m fine.” It’s a conversation about how we’re uncomfortable being human.

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Do you ever feel heavy or anxious? Work, kids, finances, the future, the past, the state of the world can all threaten your joy, hope, and trust.

From the first page of history, God has been teaching us about rest. That God rested on the 7th day has nothing to do with him ceasing to work but rather him taking up his uncontested throne to rule.

Giving us a firm foundation when life spins out of control!

Bible study teacher and lifelong student Rachel Booth Smith joins us to point to the who of Creation so that we can find meaning and rest for our souls.

Rachel is the author of Rest Assured: What the Creation Story was Intended to Reveal about Trusting God.

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Lukan, a Perry and Shawna listener asks: How do I have free will if God is 100% sovereign and knows all that will happen?

Biblical scholar Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology in seminary for nearly 15 years.

He takes on Bible questions in today’s podcast. In addition to answering the above question, Jeremy also takes on these amazing questions!

Are there contradictions in the Bible?

What is B-side Christianity? (This has to do with 4 different views that Christians have on homosexuality.)

What is the biblical view of killing for the greater good? War being an example.

What would be a biblical view of getting involved in politics?

Wrestle with us and please share this podcast!

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She set out to write a book about God’s extravagant love. It was supposed to be a 10 month project and then life blindsided Quina. And that brought her to the place where she thought God hated her.

Then, the book that should have taken 10 months took 4 years. In that time, the silence of God, and the lack of answers gave way to the comfort of God and a hard won assurance of God’s love, for her, for our world.

Quina Aragon, spoken word artist and author of Love Has A Story: 100 Meditations on the Enduring Love of God, invites you to explore God’s love as it has existed and moved throughout (and before) time, and how it intends to transform your own life story.

Quina’s book begins with a confession. She admits she’s struggled to forgive, struggled with lust, struggled with intense bouts of anxiety and depression, and with believing God hated her. Even as she wrote this book.

Shawna asks Quina, “Where does your strength to be vulnerable come from?”

Lastly, Quina leaves us to ponder, “Could you have the courage to believe love has a story, and you’re a part of it?”

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Imagine a place you could go to meet with other believers. Believers who’ve studied the Word and have written books on the faith.

Imagine you could walk into the room and ask a question about God or the Bible and the expert in the room on that topic comes forward to sit with you over a cup of coffee – sharing insights from their book in a brief conversation.

There is such a place, sort of.

Chris Martin, editor of Bible to Life, and Director of content for Moody Radio, tells us about Bible to Life and we dive into a conversation about one of the articles on BTL by Bill Thrasher called The Secret to Continual Thanks.

Gratitude doesn’t necessarily come naturally but the more we practice giving thanks the more thankful we become. Gratitude postures us properly before the God who gave us everything we have and made us who we are.

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Perry admits, “I’ve been going through a season of some depression and accusations from my conscience, and the enemy. On one hand it’s embarrassing to admit, but on the other, what freedom to admit to my humanness and know that I’m not suffering because God’s punishing me!”

Shawna got grumpy yesterday so she woke up this morning and decided to try harder. Then she realized she was trading God’s power for will power. What if, instead, we apply our efforts AND ask God for what we need?

Then, Perry gets into some great conversations about faith in the sauna. But the last one he had went off the rails cause he forgot to share the gospel “with gentleness and respect.”

The more access we have, the more self-control we need. Shawna came face to face with that reality this week. She tells that story.

We tend to assume that the more knowledge we have about the Bible the more spiritually mature we’ll be. But the Pharisees knew a LOT and it didn’t make them more loving. As we grow in understanding we must also surrender to the transforming work of Jesus.

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What do you think about AI (Artificial Intelligence)? Do you fear how it might be used for evil? Out of fear are you keeping your distance?

What if God would use what the enemy means for evil, for good? He does!

Andre Echevarria is the U.S. digital strategies leader of Cru. He shares how Cru is using AI to introduce young people to the God who loves them!

Andre likens AI to an Advanced Intern. With the right guidance and guard rails it can be a very useful tool.

Andre shares a story of a young girl who was introduced to Jesus through the work of Cru and its use of AI. Today she works with Cru. Praise God!

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A 15 year old doesn’t know how to process loss. When Morgan’s dad told her he had stage 4 liver cancer she pulled back from relationship with him instead of leaning in to her last 6 weeks with him. Along with carrying the grief of losing her dad she also carried shame for the way she handled it.

Morgan Krueger, author of Goodbye Hiding, Hello Freedom , takes us to the moment her dad spoke to her through a letter she received after he had passed. That letter held the truth she needed to hear from her earthly dad and her Heavenly Father.

If you’ve ever felt alone in your journey, if you know loss, if you carry shame, Morgan’s story and what she’s learned from God on her journey will help you to say, “Goodbye Hiding, Hello Freedom.”

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Dan Seaborn, founder of Winning at Home, asks Perry & Shawna what their perfect day would look like. “Texts from the kids saying what great parents we are. Recording the perfect song.

The whole family getting along – even while playing a board game.” Basically – everything going the way we’d want it to. Because if everything is good than God must be good, right?

Isaiah 55:8-9 says that God’s thoughts are higher than ours and His ways are higher. Have you ever wondered what He thinks the perfect day would be?

Do you trust that His perfect day would be better than how you would want it to go?

When we’re struggling or suffering, from our perspective, it feels so wrong. But to be honest, those are the times we’re most likely to turn to God.

If we could see what He does, or know what He knows, His perfect day would so far exceed our own – even if it includes our suffering.

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Perry says, “I want to be in the center of God’s will and know that I’m pleasing him but I often wonder if I’m just doing my own thing and stamping God’s name on it.”

“God, what am I doing that you want me to stop doing?” Shawna asked that question of the Lord and when she stilled herself to listen the Lord spoke tender truth to her soul.

Perry shares, “I not only wrestle with wondering if I’m in God’s will but also if I’m safe in God’s family. And when I wrestle with assurance I have 2 golden go-tos!”

Do you ever do the exact thing you don’t want to do? Paul gets it. (Romans 7:15-25a.) Thanks be to God who has delivered us through Jesus Christ our Lord!

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At 12 years old, as she rode in the car with her sister and dad to her mother’s funeral, the thought that haunted her was “God must hate me; I must be the reason my mom died.”

Cindy Brinker Simmons is a bestselling author, business woman and philanthropist who cares deeply about helping people in the midst of life’s challenges. She’s the author of Restored: Reconnecting Life’s Broken Pieces.

Cindy offers tender words of wisdom for those grieving in Hamilton, MI with the recent loss of two teenage brothers from Hamilton High School. She also shares the need for community in the healing process.

Also in this episode, people can be very hurtful with their words. Shawna shares shocking words spoken to her in the gathering area at church and how she turned it into a conversation with God as she asked Him, “Lord, is that true?”

Sometimes life is like hitting a curb you didn’t see coming when you’re riding your bike. And it sends you flailing over the handlebars into a bush. (An actual experience Shawna had.) Where is God in these moments?

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Esther was given one of the world’s hardest assignments: to protect God’s special people from genocide. But it wasn’t because she was extra-brave or super-extraordinary.

In fact, other than her beauty, she was a normal girl. But her life reminds us that every one of us has a purpose and that it sometimes takes great patience and risk to live it out.

Dannah Gresh, founder of True Girl, and author of Esther: Becoming A Girl of Purpose, a devotional for tween girls, joins us to discuss the importance of teaching young girls to meet with God in His Word, for their hearts to be shaped by who He says they are rather than the culture.

And, How the one story of the Bible is all about Jesus, how to discern God’s timing in our lives and grow in wisdom at every age, and how the story of Esther points to Jesus!

Also, Shawna often asks “Who Am I to be in this important moment I’m in,” or “Have this responsibility I have?” (You fill in the blank.) But when she thinks of God’s attention to detail and intentionality she finds herself asking, “Who knows but that you have come to your position for such a time as this!”

Perry has found himself fighting an emotional, mental, and spiritual battle on his own. Because has been too proud to open up about it. But finally, he decided to call in the brothers and the sisters!

We live in an on demand culture. We get what we want, when we want it at the click of a mouse. I mean Amazon has same day delivery. But praying for an answer to prayer requires a completely different mentality, an “I will keep on praying about this till I draw my final breath” mentality.

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In Dr. Suess’ Horton Hears A Who one day Horton the elephant hears a cry for help coming from a dust speck. Turns out that tiny little speck of dust is home to a city called Whoville.

And the cry came from one very small little Who. Shawna confesses to feeling small and invisible at times in this great big universe. But God, like Horton, hears us!

There are moments in the human experience, in the middle of a day, when you’re in a dark place and you might think, “This is going to go on forever.” But Perry’s learned that in one day everything can change because of one thing. Check it out.

Then on Monday morning Jeff, a Perry and Shawna listener texted in at 4:16 saying, “I believe I’ve grown cold in my love for Jesus and that I’m not gonna make it to heaven.” It’s a conversation about how the enemy twists the Holy Spirit’s conviction into condemnation and hopelessness.

What does bird watching have to do with finances? Rob West, president of Kingdom Advisors and host of Faith and Finance Live joins us to talk about fear and he reminds us that God, who cares for the birds of the air and the lilies of the field will care for us, his children in our time of need.

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Have you ever been surrounded by people you love and still felt lonely?

You may have experienced moments…or long seasons of heartaching loneliness. And it hurts. It can hurt to the core.

In this lonely world is it possible to live with a deep sense of belonging?

Becky Harling , author of Cultivating Deeper Connections in a Lonely World, joins us to talk about loyalty in friendship, how our beliefs about ourselves impact how we show up with others, and how choosing not to be offended can help us make more meaningful connections with others.

Also in the podcast, there’s palpable fear in our world, a feeling of impending doom and this can tempt us to give way to the fear and freak out. But there’s a better way.

Shawna’s getting let go early at an audition in Hollywood led to her having a greater understanding of how important her dad was. In our familiarity with God, we can often lose sight of His awesomeness…His holiness.

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Without denying the real pain we carry, Lina shows Christians how to rediscover joy…how God’s presence is promised in every valley, trial and tribulation.

Lina Abujamra is a Pediatric ER doctor & the founder of Living with Power Ministries. Her latest book is Still Standing - Following Jesus Even When it Hurts.

She joins Perry & Shawna for an honest conversation about our desire to control all of life, how following Jesus doesn’t look like what we thought it would, wrestling with knowing God can change everything in a moment during our long suffering, and how our feelings can betray us.

If you’re struggling to walk faithfully with God through your struggle this conversation will remind you that God is with you and that it’s possible to experience joy on the road marked with suffering.

Also, in 2016 Shawna hit a low point. She remembers having to pull off the road, weeping as she listened to Danny Gokey’s “Tell Your Heart To Beat Again.” When it feels like life is over – it could be just beginning.

Last, the greeter at church said to Perry one Sunday morning, “Why so glum??” That was a pick me up. Not! But then he experienced the transformative power of God’s presence. It’s all about the gift of gathering together, in person, to worship.

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As we grow older, we become more and more independent. That’s maturity. But the kingdom of God is an upside down kingdom where maturity is relying more and more on God. Something Shawna learned a bit more of stuck in a snow drift.

Perry got a text from his 15-year-old friend Colton: “I hope you are doing well. It’s been a while.” Perry’s first instinct was to give him the “I’ve got it all together” response. Instead he shared about his right now wrestling and got of bucketload of wisdom about how God works really good things in our wrestling!

It’s easy in life to be overwhelmed by “all the things.” In our faith walk Jesus says only one thing is needed. Then, Perry knew he needed prayer on Sunday morning and his pride was causing him some hesitation. Instead he went low and received way more than he expected!

Last, DJ Hernandez from Portland started out strong in his faith as a boy and teenager. No one would have guessed that he would go off the deep end in college. Filled with shame, pride, and anger he stepped into the Pacific Ocean to drown himself. It’s DJ’s story of redemption and rescue.

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At 8 years old he started to plan to take his own life and at 10 he executed his plan. But God also had a plan for Nick.

Nick Vujicic, founder of Nick V Ministries and author of Life Without Limbs, was born without arms and legs and God is using him globally to be His hands and feet.

He is bringing hope to the world championing the cause of the brokenhearted and sharing the good news of Jesus Christ.

If you’ve ever wondered why God made you the way He did this conversation with Nick will encourage you and remind you that God has a plan for your life.

Also, in today’s conversation we talk about those people who push our buttons. Recently Shawna has asked God to show her how that person resembles the Father as one made in His image. It’s helping her to be more loving!

Lastly, the enemy wants you and I to doubt our true identity as God’s beloved child. You have a God-given destiny. You matter!

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You can mark it down. Satan will bring up your past sins, and he will keep on bringing them up. Perry’s so familiar with this and though it never gets easier to stand firm, he’s grateful he knows what to do when the fiery darts relentlessly pelt him.

Then, have you ever struggled to discern God’s timing? Shawna was challenged by Esther’s resolve to draw close to God and wait on Him.

Jesus said, “Let the little children come to me.” We are encouraged to come to him with the heart of a child. Lisa Anderson, Executive director of Grace’s Table shares a time that a child’s dirty feet were a palpable reminder that we can come to Jesus just as we are.

Then, some days are so hard you wonder if you’re going to make it. On those days especially we cling to the faithfulness of God, come what may.

Perry shares, “When I feel prompted to share the gospel and don’t, those are moments I think I’m ashamed of the gospel.” But Shawna has some great insight about how that might not be the case at all.

Last, when you step into God’s purposes you’re probably going to feel like you’re in way over your head. Danneh Gresh, author the tween bible study, Esther, Becoming a Girl of Purpose joins us. She says, “When you’re in over your head, Jesus has all the overwhelming under his feet!”

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There are passages in the bible that warn us about assuming we’re a child of God, other passages seem to indicate that only God knows. How do we balance these super unsettling passages with the gospel that tells us we can know we are God’s children?

Bible scholar Jeremy Grinnell joins the team to answer tough bible questions. Jeremy has his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary and shares his amazing story of redemption in The Bellowing of Cain.

Dr. Jeremy also takes on the following questions: What is the difference between wisdom, understanding and knowledge? What's the difference between worldly wisdom and Godly wisdom?

In Nehemiah God commands the Israelite men to divorce their pagan wives. Why would God do this when he clearly commands against divorce?

And, Nehemiah was passionate about rebuilding the wall in Jerusalem and calling people back to the ways of God but at one point he pulled out people’s hair in anger of their rebellion. What’s up with that?

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More than anything Shawna wanted to be a great mom. That’s why she’s struggled with forgiving herself in her failings as a mother more than anything else. How do we forgive ourselves?

Diya was as wicked as they come and her wickedness made her extremely wealthy. Then she has a vision of herself in hell and it crushed her. It’s a conversation about how following Jesus is not a ticket to heaven but about life transformation.

Maybe you’ve grown up ending prayer with the words, “In Jesus name we pray. Amen.” What does it mean to pray “in Jesus’ name”?

Perry shares about a moment when he spoke to his bride in anger and wounded her heart. His sin made him sad. It’s a conversation about how the sadness God lets us feel for our sin is used by him to free us from committing the same sins over and over.

Forgiving someone who’s wronged us is shifting from “because of what you did, you owe me” to “even though you did what you did, you owe me nothing.” When God forgives us he goes so far beyond that. He forgives, cleanses, reconciles, and empowers us to forgive others!

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We’ve already been made perfect through Christ’s one sacrifice, and at the same time we are being perfected. God counts us as fully forgiven and righteous and yet it takes a lifetime to become who God says we already are!

Do you ever feel overwhelmed by the gap between who you are today and being like Jesus? What if, for today, we chose to love others by listening well and being curious about their lives? In putting others first, we’re becoming a little more like Jesus.

Maybe you find it easy to believe that God is sovereign over the world but struggle to believe He’s working things out for good in your world. If God is sovereign that means He has a plan and placed you where He has you for such a time as this.

As a boy Perry longed to know he was secure in God’s forever family. But he just wasn’t sure. He thought he had to do something heroic to get it. He didn’t know he just needed to throw his trust onto Jesus. And a kid named Lenny helped him do just that.

And, Shawna shares how she learned the 1-word prayer that brought peace to her anxiety.

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Lee Strobel, former award-winning legal editor of The Chicago Tribune, would have answered that question with a confident “no”.

Today he loves and follows Jesus. In fact, he’s dedicated his life to helping those with questions find The Truth.

Lee Strobel is an evangelist and a New York Times best-selling author. His book The Case for Christ has sold over 5 million copies.

His newest book Is God Real? is for anyone with questions or anyone who loves someone with questions and doubts.

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Are there lies you’re believing about yourself that are keeping you from stepping into all God has for you? Shawna remembers the first time she thought her life didn’t matter and how that one thought has influenced her. Perry and Shawna talk about how to take captive those poisonous thoughts.

Perry’s excited about the release of his new song “Crashed Into Grace (Acoustic Version).” He admits thinking that maybe this is the song that will put his music on the map. But then wonders, “If that happens, will that give me the deep fulfillment my heart longs for?

Then, Perry marvels that all of his worst sins were committed after he started following Jesus. How is that even possible??

Shawna was so sad to find out her daughter wasn’t available to meet with her over the phone like they do every week. She had been anticipating that time together. It made her wonder, “Is this how God feels about me? Does He look forward to our talks like I look forward to talking with my daughter?”

Perry admits, “All my life I’ve tried to get the verdict that I’m a good person by winning. But God has allowed me to lose so many times.” It’s a conversation about the beauty of losing.

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It’s reality for Perry. Like yesterday, within 90 seconds of waking up his worries went from trivial, “How am I gonna get my Starbucks app to work again?” To heavy, “I wonder if dad’s gonna be OK after his 2 ER visits.” And everything in between!

Steve Norman joins the team, and he, Perry, and Shawna kick off the podcast with a conversation about what to do with those trivial and overwhelming worries. Steve works with Winning at Home and is host of The New Norm podcast.

Then, Shawna admits she has perfected the art of holy procrastination. How do we focus on the task at hand and refuse to get sidetracked with distractions?

Then, Perry shares about a season of life when he went from lots of open doors doing the things that were giving him joy, to cleaning toilets. A conversation about when God “Shuts us in.”

And last, Shawna’s feeling a little overwhelmed at all the opportunities in front of her. She asks Steve, “How do you maximize your gifts and times within limits?”

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Perry had just fouled Chris hard in a hoops game. Chris made a move toward him but Perry had the ball in his hands. That’s when he said to Chris, “Don’t even think about it.” It’s a conversation about all the ways we try to get the verdict that we’re a good person by our performance!

Shawna has a distinctive desire to protect herself, to be safe. Because of people who have hurt her she’s leaned to protect her heart. A few years ago she realized that she had transferred that hurt onto her relationship with God. She’s learning to trust Him more.

Shawna longs to follow so closely to Jesus that she’s covered in the dust that Jesus kicks up with his sandals. To be so close that everything of him gets baked into us. Yet we often wander from following close and become upside down with no way to right ourselves. What do we do then?

When Shawna was little she climbed up on her dad’s lap when he was sitting in his recliner. That was such a safe place where she knew she was always welcome. Whether our dad was the worst or the best we all long to be loved. God wants to reparent us – to love us the way we long to be loved.

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Raeanne Newquist and her family sold their home in Southern California and gave up everything to serve God on Mercy Ships. In the early days on the ship there were some tears which made them wonder, “What have we done to our children?”

But those tears were nothing compared to the tears that were shed when they had to leave the ship ten months later. If you trust God, He will provide for you.

Globally, 5 billion people lack access to safe surgery, Mercy Ships uses hospital ships to transform lives and serve nations. Following the 2,000-year-old model of Jesus, Mercy Ships is bringing hope and healing to the world’s forgotten poor.

People like Rougie, who hadn’t felt a human touch in over 10 years found healing, hope & community aboard Mercy Ships.

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Yep! Shawna had the Muppets song stuck in her mind for months before looking up the lyrics . As she read them, she knew God was speaking to her, “It’s time!”

In Perry’s senior year at college he became acutely aware of the sins of his teenage years. He felt he deserved judgement. That’s when his heart really came alive to the truth of “No condemnation!”

Shawna’s friend has been feeling anxious and fearful about the election, what it will mean for her, for our country. Perry’s been feeling anxious about his suffering friend and his dad. What do we do when anxiety overwhelms?

Our culture screams, “It’s all about you!” So do our own hearts. We fall into entitlement and self-importance and forget who we really are. To recover the truth of who we really are, everything that we’re looking to for our identity must be stripped away.

God is our rescuer. And He’s really good at it. He rescued Shadrach, Meshack and Abednego from a fiery furnace and afterward they didn’t even smell like smoke! He can rescue you and me, completely!

Shawna’s friend set up a meeting with the school so he could advocate for his adopted daughter with special needs. As he was telling her about it Shawna couldn’t help but think, “That’s what God does for me!”

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You can have an ongoing conversation with the God of the universe. Shawna woke up in the middle of the night in a youth hostel in Vienna, Austria to find she was already praying, while she slept. Is that possible? Is that biblical?

Perry shares the wrestling match he’s been in with God through his journey between the lie of shame and the love of God and how that in the wrestling we come to really know God.

So much of our time is spent regretting the past and worrying about the future. What if we stayed in this moment? What if we lived as if God is with us, right here, right now?

God took a simple song that Perry wrote in northern Thailand in 2000 and has been multiplying it in that far flung place ever since. It’s all about how God makes much of our little.

Maybe you wonder why God put you in your family, or at your work? Why, Lord? Esther was an unlikely queen, but God used her position to save an entire nation. He has a purpose for where he has you too!

Perry talks more about his journey of being healed from shame. An early experience caused him to think his mom was ashamed of him, but found out years later that his mom was actually feeling ashamed of herself.

Last, we have the treasure of the Holy Spirit in these weak jars of clay to show that our power comes from God and not ourselves. Perry experienced this first-hand on Tuesday night!

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Perry felt prompted to share God’s love with a barista at a favorite coffee shop. The moment came, he took the risk, shared what was on his heart, and faceplanted. Or did he?

God is working out the immaturity in us, but it takes time. Take heart my friend, as we mature spiritually, we are becoming more and more like Jesus!

Perry woke up last week with an ancient sin on his mind. It was like stepping on a thorn. But it reminds him how much he needs Jesus and how much we need to remind one another of the gospel!

The third time Shawna got spoken over she started to feel small and invisible. When she stepped away from the office for lunch, someone held the door open for her at the restaurant & in that moment, she felt seen, known and loved by God. God can use us in simple ways to let others know He loves them too.

Last week Perry had two scares. His dad called him saying, “I think I’m having a stroke.” And on that same day a close friend was waiting on test results and Perry was fearing the worst.

Then, hearing her mom and dad pray for the other girls on Shawna’s softball team and lingering around the dinner table talking about what dad just read in the bible made a profound impact on Shawna.

Though she grew up in the church it was the way her parents lived out their faith in everyday life that most shaped Shawna’s faith.

Chief Innovation Officer for Awana & coauthor of Forming Faith: Discipling the Next Generation in a Post-Christian Culture, Mike Handler, joins us for a conversation around discipling our children, at church and at home.

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In honor of all who have served and in remembrance of those who lost their lives on September 11, 2001 we are joined by retired Air Force Lt. Col., Damon Friedman.

After serving four tours in Afghanistan and Iraq, within the Special Forces Operations community, Dr. Friedman returned home to his family for much needed rest and peace.

Instead, the war raged on in his body and mind making rest and peace nearly impossible.

With gun in hand, and the lies of the enemy attacking his thoughts, the truth pierced through the darkness that had plagued him and in that moment he decided to live for God.

His road to being rebuilt as a man of God led to founding SOF Missions, a ministry to veterans.

Are you ready to make a command decision to live for God?

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When your heart is aching and crying out for answers, “Where are you?”, “If you love me, then why?” and “How long, oh, Lord?” where do you go with those feelings? With your anger? With your disappointment? With your despair?

Author and speaker, Sharon Garlough Brown, in her new illustrated children’s book Not Finished Yet encourages us to go to the God who loves us.

Sharon tells several stories of God meeting her in her questions, and her anger, speaking the truth to her heart about His faithful love. In doing so, she leaves the door open for you and I to do the same and to find the healing power of lament in being honest and vulnerable with God.

Also, as kids we all dreamt of what we’d be when we grew up. Do you ever dream about what you’ll be like as you mature in your faith? As a grown-up Christian? God wants us to become like Jesus.

We never know what God might do with our “Yes”. Station manager, Dodd Morris, shares an inspiring story of what God did with a puny, hesitant “Yes”.

Lastly, there are phrases that are part of Christian culture that have become so familiar that we rattle them off without really thinking about their meaning. “God is good all the time. And all the time God is good” might be one of them. What does it really mean?

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A listener asks, “From my understanding when we ask for forgiveness, God will forget us as far as the east from the west… I also understand that there will be a judgment day… If he forgets as far as the East on the west and why will we have to stand before Him in judgment for our actions?”

Does she mean forget or forgive? Are our sins remembered, or not.

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell, who earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at a local seminary for nearly 15 years, answers this question and more with Biblical expertise and the heart of a pastor.

Shawna honestly shares with Jeremy how she knows God is calling her to do something she’s woefully unqualified to do while at the same time is asking her to let go of something she wants to hold on to. Is it possible the two are connected?

Jeremy also takes on the following questions:

“Will some people get greater rewards in Heaven than others? I've heard people talk of wanting to do greater works or, when serving, not wanting help because help would come between God and their reward. Isn't the great reward being in the presence of our God and Savior? Does God's Word speak to this?”

“Joseph told the Israelites to take his bones when they left Egypt. Did they carry his bones around for 40 years? Others who died in the desert were probably buried in the sand the same day. Was it because he was royalty and God's leader that his remains were treated differently? Also, the time of grieving in the Bible is long... 40 days or 70 days? We get a day or two. Was that amount of time prescribed by the culture? Situation? Importance of the person?”

Lastly, are you right with God? It's never to late to get right with God. Rob Pitts got right with God after a friend shared about salvation. Take the time to get right with God, before it's too late!

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Hardship and adversity touch everyone. Illness, grief, accidents, trauma, loneliness, relationship struggles, financial crises, sin, loss, anxiety and so much more can leave us feeling lost, isolated, and hopeless.

But we are not alone.

Everything in Ben’s life was lining up for him to play professional soccer, until it wasn’t. He was diagnosed with a disease, sexually abused by his athletic trainer, and survived a car accident which blew up his soccer dreams.

In his darkest days, Ben Locke, author of In Our Suffering, Lord Be Near, cried out to God. He protested. He was angry. He was honest. And God met Him with surprising grace.

We have a great conversation with Ben about his hardships, the strength displayed in his vulnerability, how he found Jesus in the struggle, and whether or not it was worth it all. In true Ben style, he is honest.

If you struggle with being real with God, this conversation will remind you of Jesus’ invitation, “Come to me” and will give you a place to start being honest with Him.

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There’s this idea in God’s family that ministry is just for the few and not for most of us. Perry says, “That view is dead wrong and not biblical.” The bible says to us that every believer is a priest, every believer is a pastor, and that our congregation is anywhere we have influence!

Over the holiday weekend Shawna found herself lost in the endless sea of possibilities of online shopping when the thought occurred to her, “What are you hoping to find?” The honest answer: comfort, rest, acceptance. At that moment she realized all she needs is found only in God Himself.

Maybe you relate: Perry says, “I do stuff for God that he puts on my heart. And I rarely know if it’s making any difference at all.” It’s a conversation about how we can know that whatever we do with God has powerful impact.

Shawna shares: “When I blow it, condemnation tells me what I did is who I am. But conviction tells me that what I did doesn’t line up with who I am. The Holy Spirit reminds me who I really am - a beloved child of God.”

It can be easy to fall into fear, especially around the economy. Rob West, host of Faith and Finance Live takes a question around the state of the economy, and how to respond biblically.

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They were the perfect southern church-going family. They checked all the boxes of who a family ought to be. But for Jay, it was empty religion.

As a young man, having lost his job, his car, and his girl and battling addiction, he didn’t want to die, but he didn’t want to live anymore either, so he decided to take his life.

Though Jay wasn’t a believer when he had suicidal thoughts, many Christians do. Some have been told “You don’t have enough faith!” or “You must not be praying enough.” Or we believe that Christians are immune to suicidal thoughts.

But Elijah prayed that God would end his life. And Paul said he despaired even unto death. In this world we will have trouble. But God promises we will never go through it alone.

“I wonder what would’ve happened if the religious leaders had responded with compassion to Judas?” Jay asks.

Sensing God spared his life for a purpose, Author, Evangelist, & Founder of Harvest Ministries, Jay Lowder committed to spending the rest of his life proclaiming his personal story and helping others find God’s purpose for their life.

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You know the feeling… worry snowballing into panic, debilitating stress literally harming your health.

It’s the crushing weight of anxiety. Anxiety can make everyday tasks difficult. It can make ordinary challenges seem insurmountable. It robs you of peace, sleep, confidence, and productivity. Anxiety robs you of life. But God offers relief from your fears, hope in your heartache, and yes…even joy in your anxiety.

Author and Speaker, Linda Buxa, shares insights from her new devotional How to Fight Anxiety with Joy.

God loves you and has an amazing plan to give you joy – now and eternally.

Also, being grateful can help calm your anxious mind. Shawna’s negative thoughts were swirling around in her head like a tornado. Thinking about what she was grateful for in that moment brought clarity to the chaos.

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He was getting ready to leave for church to share the message, with a baptism service and potluck to follow when he sensed God telling him to bring extra towels.

As the service was ending God let him know what the extra towels were for as he felt led to ask if there was anyone else who wanted to be baptized that afternoon.

There’s room at the table for you. You don’t have to have yourself all put together, just come as you are.

Then, Perry’s been noticing something about Shawna, she gets really excited about trying new things and then the excitement seems to wane. And asks her, “What’s up with that?”

Also, if you look at Gen Z and you feel fearful about the future we have some exciting news for you about this emerging generation!

Dr. Arthur Satterfield III, VP of Strategy for Young Life, says that Gen Z is hungry for real authentic relationships. They want to be seen, known, and loved. And they want to experience God.

How can we come alongside them, in relationship, and draw them into a deep life in Jesus?

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Anger, slander, hatred, de-humanizing your political opponents, pride. This is how America does politics. But for the Jesus follower there is a completely different way!

Brian Aulick, lead pastor at Engedi Church and host of the Made to Advance podcast joins us with a conversation about the Jesus way of doing politics.

It’s starts with realizing that our identity is not first as an American but as beloved child of God. Then it’s realizing that our calling is not first to win political battles but to be a messenger of the good news.

Next, it’s realizing that the primary tool God has given us to change our culture is not our vote (as important as that is), but rather it’s the power of the gospel! Then, if we want to change culture, we must do it by our good living and wise speaking.

And finally it’s realizing that no matter who wins the Oval Office, God is still King. He is still writing his unstoppable story of redemption. And that justice will finally win.

Also, when your emotions are triggered, and you’re tempted to believe you aren’t wanted or that you’re defined by your failures, you can choose to dwell on that, or you can remind yourself of truth: that you’re loved more than you can imagine!

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Shawna knew God was leading her to confront a situation and she was full of fear. If she obeyed, she could lose everything that mattered to her. As she wrestled that out God spoke Galatians 2:20 to her. It gave her the courage to obey and now that verse is forever imprinted on her heart.

Last week Perry was in between an army and an ocean: One of those moments when if God doesn’t come through, there’s not gonna be a way through. And God said, “Perry, stand in faith, and watch me do it.”

Also, singer-songwriter, Matt Maher’s dad was there for him as a young boy but not so much through the formative teenage years.

His journey of processing those experiences with God has given Matt compassion for his dad and has impacted how he shows up as a dad for his own boys – giving them and himself grace on the journey.

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Hebrews 11:4 says, By faith Abel brought God a better offering than Cain did. By faith he was commended as righteous, when God spoke well of his offerings. And by faith Abel still speaks.

The same can be said of Sadie Klingenberg. Sadie went to Jesus on August 18th, just 9 days ago at the young age of 30. But Sadie still speaks.

Because she was a woman who loved Jesus deeply. She showed everyone who met her how to suffer, showed what it looks like to be a genuine friend, a prayer warrior and an encourager.

In January of 2023, we had the joy of having Sadie on the show. And so we’d like Sadie, who’s finished her journey well, to encourage you to finish yours well.

Also in this episode, sometimes we need to reset. There are times when we fall away from the rhythms of life that anchor us and help us be who we want to be. Fall is a great time to reset to the rhythms that nurture your relationship with God.

And just because you know what you’re supposed to do doesn’t mean you’re being obedient. It’s not too late to do what God is calling you to do. Start today!

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Are we missing something when it comes to discipleship of our boys and men?

What are the benefits of Christian community?

How does improving mental health align with God’s promises?

Rasool Berry is the teaching pastor at The Bridge Church in Brooklyn, NY and co-author of THE WHOLE MAN: 40 Spiritual Reflections From Black Men.

In a day when there is more consternation and confusion about manhood than ever, THE WHOLE MAN provides content that will empower men to become all he’s created them to be.

Then, Perry said words in anger to his bride. He knew he had sinned against her and it made him sad. He knew he deserved discipline and a stern rebuke but instead received a do-over from Jesus via a dream.

Over the last few months God has been revealing to Shawna that her desire to go deep with others reveals His heart to go deep with us. You are made in the image of God so that the world may see God through you too.

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In 1 Timothy 1 Paul says that “though I was a blasphemer, a persecutor and a violent man, I was shown mercy because I acted in ignorance and unbelief.”

At first blush it may sound like Paul was saying, “I was shown mercy cause I really didn’t know what I was doing, so it’s not that big of a deal.” It’s actually quite the opposite.

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell joins the team to answer bible questions, starting with the one above. Jeremy earned his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught graduate level theology for 15 years.

Then, have you ever felt painfully aware of your sin, repented, received God’s forgiveness and after some time found yourself feeling painfully aware of the same sin all over again?

Jeremy says, “that happens because over time we become more aware of how our sin wounded us and others which leads us to deeper repentance and gratefulness for mercy!”

Then, Ronda a Perry and Shawna listener asks, “What’s all this talk about deconstruction of the Christian faith?” We talk about 2 paths of deconstruction: A path that leads to deeper faith and a path that well, leads off the path.

Then Stephanie says, “In 2nd Kings 24:1-4 God’s says he wouldn’t forgive King Manasseh for his many sins. Manasseh repented of his sins. I thought God forgives those who repent??”

Last, as our kids head back to school it’s a great time to remind them of who they are and WHOSE they are! As God’s kids they don’t walk into school alone, but with God.

And in 2 Timothy 1:7 we are told that God didn’t give us a spirit of timidity but of power, love and self-control. You might want to slip that verse into their lunchbox.

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On December 19th, 2017, Jeremy Freeman got the call, “Sir, your sons have been in a car accident. How quickly can you get here?” The phone call no parent wants would lead to a miracle only God could give.

When Jeremy and Emily Freeman’s teenage son Caleb was in a devastating car accident, doctors gave him no chance to live the night of the accident, and a 10 percent chance to live after he made it through that night.

In #butGod Jeremy shares the incredible story of Caleb’s recovery, the darkness that nearly swallowed his family as they waited to see if Caleb would live, and the #butGod movement that captured the prayers of Jesus followers around the world.

Jeremy’s the lead pastor at First Baptist Church in Newcastle, Oklahoma. He and his miracle son Caleb travel the country sharing their story. Everything you might want to know about their journey is on FB at Pray for Caleb Freeman.

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Scorpions aren’t easy to kill as Tessa found out on a vacation in Italy. Fear isn’t easy to kill either. But here’s the amazing thing, even when you’re fearful, God still invites you to build his kingdom. Award winning biblical fiction author Tessa Afshar joins us to talk about dancing with fear and faith.

We also have a conversation about how the desert seasons in life aren’t meant to wreck us. In fact, they can deepen our faith and intimacy with Jesus as we lean on him. Then, Tessa admits she’s a worst-case scenario thinker. But she’s learning to replace those poisonous thoughts with the truth!

Last, Perry admits, “I’m a worker and an achiever and it’s hard to find rest in the middle of my busy.” But that’s exactly what Jesus invites us into. Pulling away to rest especially when the demands on us are great. We can do this cause “God has the night shift!”

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Kathy Keller says that “If every crisis in life causes us to doubt God’s goodness then we haven’t reached our tipping point. We reach it when no matter what happens, we’re convinced God is good. It’s OK if you’re not there. It’s a journey!

Kathy’s an author and speaker who’s the wife of the late Tim Keller who went to Jesus in May of 2023 after a battle with pancreatic cancer at the height of his ministry. Kathy shares how she trusts the goodness of God especially on days she misses Tim most.

She shares how “Death concentrates the mind wonderfully.” Facing death helps us shed our counterfeit gods. Perry and Kathy share how grateful they are for all the times God has said “No,” to their prayers.

Then, whatever we fear losing most in life is an idol. And Kathy shares what she was holding onto so tightly before Tim was diagnosed with cancer. And last, Tim Keller shares what conquers all our idols, all our anxieties and all our greatest fears: The gospel!

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This is what Hormoz Shariat was shouting on the streets of Tehran, Iran in 1979. But in his heart he was thinking, “Not death to America yet because I want to go to school in the US and get a great education!”

Hormoz was born and raised Muslim in Iran. He was devoted to Islam. In 1980 he was given the chance to get his PhD at USC. That’s when he started comparing the Quran with the Bible, he was wrecked by Jesus’ Sermon on the Mount and began following him.

After graduating, he was working his dream job in the US, winning Muslims to Jesus when Jesus called Hormoz to devote the rest of his life to reaching Iran with the gospel. He surrendered to that call.

Hormoz founded Iran Alive which is bringing the gospel into Iran 24/7 through satellite TV. Iran has the fastest growing church in the world and Jesus is moving through signs, wonders, miracles, and of course through the power of his word! Get in on what Jesus is doing!

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God hears you. He loves you. And the breakthrough you’re praying for may be just one prayer away so don’t stop praying!

In a conversation with singer and songwriter, Matthew West, he shares what inspired him to write the song “Don’t Stop Praying.”

Matthew also shares what his girl-dad’s heart is going through as he sends his oldest daughter off to college after 18 short summers with her.

And Matthew shares that he recently nearly perished in a car wreck. And talks about the song that came out of that experience, which will be on his new album!

Also, Shawna’s friend shared that it’s easier for her to believe she’s useful to God than loved by God. For Shawna it’s the opposite.

She believes God loves her but struggles to believe God could use her. But they’re both lies. You’re loved AND you matter!

Dr. Mark Jobe, Moody Bible Institute president shares a compelling story of a woman his wife met on vacation in Spain whose heart was tender to the Lord even though she said, “I’m an atheist.” Could we be on the cusp of a world-wide revival?

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Culture tells us to nurture our child’s self-esteem but Jill says that’s a recipe for disaster. She encourages us to raise kids who esteem God, not themselves.

Jill Garner is an accomplished speaker, advocate, founder of Manners of the Heart, and author of StrongHeart: Cultivating Hpumility, Respect, and Resiliency in Your Child.

Maybe you’ve noticed how culture paints dads as buffoons. Jill says that how we view our earthly dad is how we first come to understand our heavenly Father.

She believes that culture paints that picture of dad’s as buffoons to instill a false understanding of our good, wise, faithful God. Dads, you matter!

If you’re heading into the teenage years with your child, Jill encourages you not to rescue your great kid when they mess up. She offers a better way that cultivates humility, respect, and resiliency in your teen.

How much of your time with your child is spent training them? There’s a heavy trend towards entertaining our kids instead of training them. A conversation all about cultivating a strong hearts in children.

Also in this episode Perry and Shawna talk with Caleb, Jordan, and Josh Ward of Consumed By Fire about how they almost gave up on their God dream, they were burnt out from the road, dad had suffered a stroke.

That’s when their dad, before he passed said, “If God has called you, don’t let anyone talk you into it, and don’t let anyone talk you out of it. It’s the story behind the song, “First Things First.”

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Perry admits, “Something happened this week that triggered memories of the worst failures in my life. That used to cripple me, but through the years Jesus has taught me what to do when that happens.” Maybe this will help you.

Is my phone serving me or am I a slave to it? While Shawna was in Australia she found the time difference created a freedom from her phone that allowed her to show up and be present in a more meaningful way.

When Perry’s son Taylor saw his bride Bri walking down the aisle, he began to weep. Bri on the other hand marveled at Taylor. Something like that’s gonna happen when we, the bride of Christ, see Jesus and he sees us.

Sometimes we complicate things. Sometimes we complicate our faith. Shawna says the older she gets, the more she believes it really comes down to trusting God in all things.

Shawna doesn’t like waiting. Doesn’t like waiting in line or in traffic but when she’s waiting for something good she’s full of hopeful anticipation. God’s Word says that when we wait on the Lord we’re given supernatural strength.

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Sometimes God lets you be a part of brining a little sliver of sunshine to an otherwise dark day. Shawna had a God encounter at Nordstrom Rack over the weekend. She was able to bless another and walked away blessed as well.

Perry admits, “Sometimes I wonder if the gospel is true. And it’s in those moments that I think about how the gospel has transformed the people closest to me.”

“The world has yet to see what God will do with a man fully consecrated to Him,” said preacher Henry Varley to DL Moody. Moody responded, “I will be that man.” I wonder what God could do through me & you if we fully surrendered to Him.

Paul says in Romans 6, “Count yourself dead to sin but alive to God in Christ.” He’s not saying, “Try harder!” He’s saying, “Rebelieve the gospel because that’s where the power is to kill sin!”

There have been times in Shawna’s life when she felt that people wanted to be close to her for what she could do for them and not for who she is. And Perry admits, “I can sometimes be that person who’s trying to get from someone what I want!”

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John shares, “my nervous system is degenerating. I’m trying my best. I realize I sin every day. I was in churches all my life. I believed in God, forgiveness of sins. I’ve worked hard for everyone. Is God cursing me?”

What an honest, heartbreaking question. Dr. Jeremy answers that question with the knowledge of a Bible scholar and the heart of a pastor.

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at a local seminary for nearly 15 years.

As the questions came in we wrestled with the curses and blessings of God found in Deuteronomy.

We talked about the consequences of our sin that are God’s discipline versus natural consequences.

We considered how a forgiving God could say there is an unforgiveable sin and what it is.

And looking at Matthew 8:28-34 & Daniel 4, Dr. Jeremy answered the question, “If someone seems insane do they have a demon in them?”

Lastly, there is constant stream of thought that is influencing, not only what we think but also how we behave. Shawna shares some great tips she came across from Jenny Allen about taking every thought captive.

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In our sex-obsessed world, it might seem ironic that men need more talk about sex. But in reality sexuality is one of the most neglected aspects of men’s lives.

Professional therapist and author of The Sex Talk You Never Got, Sam Jolman, says that the way to reclaiming the heart of masculine sexuality has a lot to do with being curious about it. His heart for his own boys and for you is that you would discover your lover’s heart.

If you’ve ever felt that you need to repent for having a body, if you’ve struggled with porn addiction and never explored why, if you’d like to know how living with healthy sexuality could change the world, you’ll not only want to hear this conversation, you’ll want to read his book!

Also, when all the unknowns feel like enemies lined up against you and you feel completely alone - you have options as to how you will respond. Shawna shares a promise from God that she turns to in times like these.

Lastly, We all have survival tactics we turn to when our circumstances are more than we can handle. Shawna shares how God revealed that her survival tactic of “turtling” was unfitting for a child of God & kept her from trusting in Him and truly living.

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We're diving deep into the essence of the local church with Pastor Dean Inserra, author of A Short Guide to Church. Discover why church membership isn't just a tradition but a vital part of God's design for His people. Pastor Inserra unpacks how the local church is more than just a place we attend—it's where we truly belong and thrive as followers of Christ. Together, we explore how prioritizing church can transform your faith and mission in the world.

Also, do you find yourself waiting for the other shoe to drop, even when things are going really well? God is present with us right here, right now. How can you embrace and enjoy today while it’s here?

Then, Ben attends a small church, and like many small churches they struggle to have enough hands. But should they try to steal sheep from other churches, or reach the 40% who don't attend church at all.

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Ever felt a bit overwhelmed or even skipped over those tricky books of the Bible like Numbers or Leviticus? We get it—those laws and rituals can seem a bit daunting. But what if I told you there’s a way to not only understand them but to actually delight in them?

We’re thrilled to have Kristie Anyabwile joining us to break it all down. Her new study, Delighting in God's Law, is all about making sense of these ancient texts and discovering their relevance for us today.

Kristie will help us see that these laws weren’t just for people back then—they have something to teach us now. She makes the complex simple and shows us how to apply these timeless principles to our everyday lives.

Also, if you struggle to find peace in the midst of these troubled times Jesus told us that we would have trouble in this world. But in Him, we can experience inner peace regardless of our circumstances.

Lastly, Shawna learned she has a super power! It’s gratitude. At a time when she expected to experience deep sadness she, instead, felt that her heart and mind were protected by God. Could it be that was the direct result of her gratitude to God?

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We’re all sexually broken. And we’re all invited to participate in the love, forgiveness, and healing of Jesus.

Dr. Joy Skarka joins us to explore how modern behaviors like porn, sexting, and casual hookups can lead to feelings of shame and isolation. In her new book, Her Freedom Journey: A Guide Out of Porn and Shame to Authentic Intimacy, Joy shares her personal story and offers practical advice grounded in biblical wisdom. She’s here to guide us through breaking free from these struggles and finding true intimacy through a relationship with Jesus.

If you’ve struggled running from God instead of to Him with your struggle, if you’ve believed the lie that marriage will fix your sexual addiction, if you’re raising kids today and don’t know how to address the conversation of sexuality, or if you are addicted to porn and in need of hope, this conversation is for you.

Also, Shawna’s back from Australia! On her long journey she learned that, though we’re all on our own individual journey through life, we can enjoy the journey more if we experience it in community with others.

She also learned that a good set of earplugs can be the gateway to a good nap, no matter what’s going on around you. She shares how, in life, there is a way to find rest for your soul, even in the midst of the chaos.

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Perry admits, “I’ve come through a six-week season of having one of my ancient teenage sins in my face.” He has some insights about how he’s weathered the accusations and how the weight lifted as he realized once again, the boy is forgiven!

As Shawna was singing “The Blessing” over her new granddaughter, Selah, she remembered where the lyrics came from. Moses was reminding the Israelites that God is a faithful God and that He blesses those who love and obey Him to a thousand generations. That promise is for us!

In this first week of being a grandma Shawna has been surprised by how often she’s thought of her dad who went to heaven in 2022. He was a man of faith who’s life story and song pointed to Jesus and how he passed on his faith to his children, and his children’s children.

Perry’s Muslim friends think it’s blasphemy that he believes that Jesus is God, that Jesus is the Son of God. He’s shares some of the reasons why they think that and calls us to respectfully hold on to this unshakeable, non-negotiable, earth-shaking truth that Jesus is Lord!

Shawna woke up to an email reminding her it was time to check in for her flight back to the states. She knows that a part of her heart will remain in Australia as she says goodbye to her new grandbaby and her kids, but she’s also reassured that the God who goes with her will be with them.

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Months ago, Shawna was asked to come to Australia for the birth of her 1st grandchild. She thought it’d be amazing, yet very possible to miss the birth. So, Shawna shares what it meant for her to actually be in the room as Selah came into the world.

Then, Shawna’s daughter Eden says it “feels natural” to be a mom. Son-in-law Grant says it’s “surreal” to be a dad. And we hear how the name “Selah” has everything to do with the day Jesus found Grant.

Also in this episode we talk with bible teacher Colin Smith about his latest book, “Fly Through the Bible,” that shows how the bible is one big story of God’s unfolding plan to save you and me, to save the world!

We see that God promises a deliverer 3 chapters into Genesis; how Jesus shows up when God calls Abraham to offer his son Issac; how the Jewish people were looking for a conquering Messiah but got someone way better, and how the story is moving toward an end, which is really “the beginning of the true story.”

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Kenza was born and raised in the Muslim family in Casablanca, Morrocco. Her fear of failing Allah began early. Then her family moved to the states when she was 12.

That’s when her efforts to please God ramped up a hundred times! Islam required praying five time a day, she’d pray seven. Islam required a 30 day fast; she’d fast for 40.

By the time she was 23, she gave up trying to be good enough. She knew she couldn’t. She was convinced God hated her. And that’s when she decided to end her life.

Kenza Haddock is a licensed counselor, an author (her latest book is The Ex-Muslim’s Guide to Christianity) and she’s a follower of Jesus. Because Jesus found her the night she was going to end it all.

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Shawna’s granddaughter Selah is here, and Shawna’s smitten! When Shawna became a mom she felt like her heart opened up to love deeper than she ever had. Now that she’s a grandma there’s an even deeper love she’s experiencing for her granddaughter. This is just a sliver of how much the heavenly Father loves you!

If you’re anything like Perry and Shawna you’ve looked up in awe at the heavens. The universe is SO vast, and yet our awesome Creator took time to remind Shawna to lock her car door.

Shawna’s in Australia helping her daughter and son-in-law adjust to being first-time parents and they make a great team! We were created for community – to do life together. We’re invited into community with Father, Son and Holy Spirit and with others who are following Jesus.

It’s easy to waste time on things that are worthless. For Shawna it’s scrolling at something to buy online. For Perry, it scrolling through Google news. But God keeps on rescuing us from worthless things to fill our hearts with goodness.

Last, Perry and Shawna love getting up (most mornings) to encourage you! But they also love it when listeners like you encourage them. Like Ron, a Perry and Shawna listener who sent a text before the show even started to encourage Perry.

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If we’re going to not just survive, but thrive in life’s journey, we need, from a Lord of the Rings perspective, an Aragorn out in front of us, calling out in us what we can’t see. We need a Sam, that friend at our side who carries us when we can’t take another step. And we need a Pippen, someone who really doesn’t yet believe they can do it.

Then, Perry admits, “I’d much rather come off all put together than show my scars.” But showing our scars is the only way to heal our world. Just ask the man who still has scars in his hands, feet, and side.

Next, you can’t have faith without risk. And you can’t have risk without fear. Which means that if the kingdom dream God’s put in your heart is going to become more than a dream, we’re going to have to fall into our fears.

Then, Perry was 19. His life was still dirty. Messy. But he longed to be more than who he was. That’s when Jesus said, “Follow me, I believe in you. I will make you into the man you long to be.”

Last, if you’re going through deep waters right now, and life is so hard, God is at work in you. Writing a song, giving you a message to share after you come out the other side. And when you do share it, “Many will see and fear and put their trust in the Lord.”

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That’s what Peter realized as he began to move into his adult life. That the emotional and physical abuse from his dad and mom was not normal.

Dr. Peter Newhouse CEO of Winning At Home joins the podcast to share his journey from trauma to healing and to bring hope for healing to you!

The trauma made Peter really angry, but he shares about the first steps he took toward healing. He also shares the three phases of recovering from trauma: bondage, change, and freedom.

A Perry and Shawna listener shares with Peter, “Last year I shared some painful memories with my mom of her physically abusing me as a child. Mom had turned her life around and was not that person anymore. A few days after I shared that, mom died.

I have such deep regret that I ever shared that with her. I can barely breath when I think about it.” Peter offers some hope.

Last, healing from trauma is not a quick fix. There’s not a silver bullet that makes everything better overnight. It’s a journey, sometimes springing forward, sometimes setbacks. But there is hope! Check out Peter’s new book, Healing Through Trauma.

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Shawna’s in Australia, waiting for her first grandchild to be born. Here luggage didn’t make it. She was cool with it at first, but got more impatient as the dayswent by. She was done waiting for her luggage. That’s when she surrendered.

In Perry’s senior year of college he became overwhelmed by the shame of his teenage years. And the same thing happened last week! But there’s a massive difference between then and now in how he responds to those painful feelings.

Then, Jesus doesn’t just rescue us when we start our journey with him, he keeps on rescuing us! Perry experienced another rescue just last week.

Next, our relationship with Jesus is like a fire in the fireplace. If we don’t stoke the flame, our passion will fade. It’s a conversation about how we can keep our flame of love for Jesus red hot.

Last, the great lie of the enemy is, “The more of God, the less of you; real life is found when everyone and everything revolves around you.” But that lie is a rip-off!

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That’s what happens we make prayer a ritual, something we have to do. Something we feel we’ve got to get just right, or it won’t count. That’s religion, and religion always gets in the way of experiencing the love of Jesus.

Wife, mom, author, and speaker Asheritah Ciuciu joins the podcast to help us jettison religion and learn to delight in Jesus!

Perry shares how he deeply connected with Jesus last Saturday evening but wonders with Asheritah how he can experience that more often.

Perry and Asheritah share about how prayer can get in the way of delighting in Jesus. When we look at prayer as a to do list.

Then a huge barrier to delighting in Jesus is burnout. What do we do when we have zero energy for prayer?

And Lucy, a Perry and Shawna listener asks, “When I stop doing, doing, doing, how do I get past the feeling that I should be doing something?” Asheritah reminds us of the truth that frees us from our frenzy!

Also in this episode, Perry shares, “I have learned through my journey how to forgive myself, how to accept the forgiveness that Jesus offers that has no fine print.”

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He’s a pastor, author, and apologist. And he still has doubts about the tough questions of faith. But he’s learned how to leverage doubt to propel him forward and not cause him to spiral backward.

JD Greear, pastor of The Summit Church in NC joins us to talk about his latest book, 12 Truths and a Lie: Answers to Life’s Biggest Questions. JD takes on some of the toughest questions he’s fielded over the years and that he’s also wrestled with.

In the podcast, JD shares how he wrestled with doubts about his salvation, how to unhinge politics from the gospel. We also take on other tough questions: If God’s really in control, why so much suffering? How could a loving God send people to hell?

And surely the biblical sexual ethic is bigoted. Or is it? Listen in to a conversation between Perry and JD that gives you permission to doubt and insight on how to grow through it. If this encourages you, please share!

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Following Jesus is not a silver bullet that instantly delivers us from the guilt, shame, and the magnetic pull of sin. But following Jesus is the start! And it’s the only path to experiencing any kind of freedom from the sins that want to pull us under never to come up again.

Davis Moore, author and pastor of Corner Bible Church in Allegan, MI joins the team to talk about the journey to being changed through the power of Jesus and his gospel. And guess what? It takes some heart surgery!

If you’re still crippled by sin and you feel like the gospel isn’t working for you. If you have little hope of ever changing or have given up completely, this conversation is for you. Perry and Davis share vulnerably how hard it is to change but that the gospel really is the power of God for inside out transformation.

Davis’ debut book is Knot by Knot: Untangling Life’s Core Issues.

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A movement called “deconstruction” is sweeping through our churches and it’s affecting those we love. It has disrupted, dismantled, and destroyed the faith SO many.

Alisa Childers shares how she was led into questioning what she believed about God and the Bible. It was more than reconsidering data, it was a painful fissure in her relationship with God.

She questioned whether the Bible could be trusted, if the people in the Bible really existed and was told that the crucifixion was a form of “cosmic child abuse.”

She spent about five years wrestling with God and she walked away with a limp but she says, “I’d rather walk with a limp on solid ground than without one on thin ice.”

Then, ever felt unreasonably anxious? Shawna leaves tomorrow for Australia to welcome her first grandbaby and she’s a little anxious about flying internationally alone.

She’s anxious about what her daughter will experience in labor. And not knowing when that will happen. Having had a recent panic attack she’s paying attention to all she’s feeling and she’s trusting God with each and every part of it.

Then Perry shares, “If you knew my top ten sins you’d do one of two things. You’d never listen to me again. Or you’d find hope that you too can be forgiven of your top ten sins!”

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Perry’s why started on the playground in 5th grade, it grew in a living room in St. Paul, MN when he was 16, and it was sealed the night Jesus healed his excruciating ankle sprain when he was 18.

Have you ever had a moment when your expectations didn’t line up with your reality? What do you do with that? Shawna experienced that when she found out she was going to be a long distance, international, grandma. Habakkuk 3:17-19 helped her to shift her focus from her circumstances to God.

Perry admits, “It’s easy from me, an achiever, to feel like admitting my sin to God and turning from it is a work I need to perform and get right to keep God’s favor.”

When everything’s going wrong, go to God. As Shawna started journaling a letter to God with the intention of being ruthlessly honest, the Lord revealed to her what was really at the heart of the matter. Her journal entry ended like most Psalms: Giving glory to God for who He is.

Lastly, there is power in prayer. Jesus said all authority in heaven and earth was given to Him. There’s power when we pray in His name. Pray in faith believing all things are possible.

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Shawna admits it’s a trigger for her when she gets cut off in conversation. She feels dismissed and undervalued. Recently, God used that trigger to show her what it looks like to yield to Him and others.

Perry admits, “The enemy/my conscience keep reminding me of an sin from my ancient past. I feel this compulsive need to confess it to someone, again. But Abba settled my heart this morning as I drove into work.”

Learning to hear God’s voice is essential to following Him. But how do we learn to hear God’s voice? Spiritual hearing happens with our heart. To hear God speak we must keep our hearts sensitive to Him.

Perry’s Muslim friend is skeptical of the bible. First he thinks Mark committed plagiarism when he wrote his gospel because it came from Peter. And then he said, “Because it was so important why didn’t Peter write it? Perry didn’t know the answers. Then.

Perry admits, “I freak out and feel overwhelmed more than once a week. I feel like I have to fix the problems that make me feel overwhelmed. And then I realize, “It’s out of my hands!”

When a moment has all the elements to invoke a proper freak out how do you not? Remembering God’s faithfulness in the past will give you hope for your present.

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Perry was up north this weekend, helping his daughter lead worship at Bay Harbor Community Church. After the band sound checked he found himself standing next to the sound engineer and what came out of Perry’s mouth was, “What do you think of all this faith stuff?”

Have you ever prayed a prayer that didn’t get answered and wondered if it was because you didn’t have enough faith? Perry and Shawna have. But, what does it mean to pray in faith?

Just as an artist carefully creates a masterpiece, just an a poet intentionally weaves words to craft a beautiful poem, so the Lord has carefully created and restored us to be his beautiful poems. He’s created us on purpose for a purpose!

What if God doesn’t answer our prayers the way we want him to? If that’s happened in your life maybe you’ve wondered if He hears you, or cares, or if He really is good.

Perry & Shawna share their thoughts about a quote a listener texted in about how most Christians don’t fully understand how much God loves them and the impact it would have on our lives if we really did grasp the staggering immensity of His love for us.

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When Jesus finishes his work in you, you’ll have “enough power in your little finger to raise all the dead things in the universe to life!” That’s our unshakeable hope. But here’s the staggering reality: We have that power in us now!

Then, as we mature in our faith. gratitude comes more naturally to us. In time we realize that all we really need is God Himself.

“Rain came, wind blew, but I’m gonna make it through.” Perry and Shawna share how the storms of life have hit them in the last couple weeks. Their faith has wavered, but Christ their foundation hasn’t at all.

Shawna shares how she hates being an inconvenience to others. Perry shares that he never feels like he’s enough, no matter how hard he tries. They remind each other and you that we have been chosen to become like Jesus.

As he stood in the baptism tank as a boy, our new station manager (yay!), Dodd Morris, realized how God had been pursuing him for years and at that moment was answering the faithful prayers of his grandfather.

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How would you define human flourishing? And based on that definition how are you doing?

Dr. John Plake, American Bible Society’s Chief Innovation Officer and editor-in-chief of the State of the Bible Series is a researcher with a pastor’s heart and based on recent research shared in the recently released third chapter of State of the Bible 2024 scripture engagement has a huge impact on how we’re doing.

As we implement Biblical principles like forgiveness and live with the hope of Christ deeply planted in our hearts we flourish as people.

And if you look at the obstacles that Gen Z is facing and worry about our future you should know that Gen Z’ers who engage with scripture are flourishing more than any other generation.

Also, in today’s conversation, if your thoughts lead to your actions than what you think about matters. Scripture gives specific instructions on what to think about.

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You’ve probably thought about what you would do if faced with an invitation to a same sex wedding.

It’s one thing to have a hypothetical situation. It’s another to have real relationships with real people that you really love and to struggle with whether or not to celebrate their same sex relationship.

Bible scholar and author of Known for Love: Loving Your LGBTQ Family and Friends Without Compromising Biblical Truth, Dr. Casey B. Hough, joins us to show how we can, in real life, love our LGBTQ friends and family well.

But what does that mean and how can we be like Jesus as we navigate loving those around us? Can we love others without affirming their lifestyle? And can we not affirm their lifestyle and love them?

Would Jesus attend a same sex wedding? We’ve seen Bible teachers change their position on sexuality when it gets personal. What’s up with that?

If you want to cultivate a heart for God and others that upholds truth, a heart that is marked by compassion and love, a heart that strengthens you and others in the gospel, you will be strengthened by this conversation.

If you’re encouraged, please share!

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Perry admits, “There is this massive gap between who I am and who Jesus is, and I feel that deeply.” It’s a raw conversation about when we feel like we’re not enough and what God feels about us when he knows we’re not enough.

How can you know if you’re growing spiritually? By taking an honest look at the fruit of the Spirit in your life. The Holy Spirit does the heart work from the inside out to make us more like Jesus.

Perry shares, “I was feeling discouraged, a bit down, even a little depressed. And that was yesterday!” And then he started thinking about the gospel and he realized God was speaking right into his discouragement.

Yesterday was a hard day for Perry. But on the way in to do the show this morning, the Lord showed up to restore his anxious heart. New mercies are really a thing!

When our circumstances are hard, hopelessness sinks in. But when we fix our eyes on God we are reminded that anything is possible.

Last, at what age should we start giving children money for helping out so they learn how to handle, save, buy things, basically to learn to manage money, and how much should we give them?

Host of Faith and Finance Live, Rob West, shares some great financial wisdom and practical tips for helping our kids understand and practice biblical stewardship.

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His heart was pounding out of his chest. He was physically sick, almost daily. And he didn’t tell a soul.

As a college student his roommates saw what was going on and they were concerned. They brought him to a wise sage in the psych department, you know the one, the gray haired grandfather to all.

That was the first time he shared the anxiety he was going through and it was the start of getting the help he needed to beat it once and for all. Within months the symptoms were gone.

Rob Jackson, licensed counselor with Focus on the Family, joins us to share his struggle with panic disorder that caused him to think he was losing his mind.

Many men, maybe you, struggle with mental health issues but are far less likely to reach out for help than women are.

If you are struggling there’s help at Focus on the Family! Reach out today.

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When we worship a Jesus of our own making – taking the parts about Jesus that resonate with us and leaving behind the parts that are hard for us to swallow or flat out confusing – not only is that idol worship but we’re missing out on the real person of Jesus and the relationship of intimacy we were created for with Him.

Rick Lawrence, Executive Director of Vibrant Faith and author of Editing Jesus: Confronting the Distorted Faith of the American Church says the driving force propelling the church into irrelevance is it’s propensity to reduce Jesus. When we discover and return to the unedited Jesus, it’s impossible to remain unchanged.

Then, some think faith means the ability to move mountains and do greater works than Jesus himself, others think it’s faithful endurance through long seasons of hardship. But it’s not either/or, it’s both/and!

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Emotions we can’t manage tend to divide us rather than bring us together. So, how we manage our emotions is really important to our relationships.

Chris Coursey - pastor, counselor, author and creator of Thrive Today says how well we can manage what we feel will set the tone for our responses, as well as our ability to stay relationally present while navigating big emotions and upsets. He and his wife Jen have dedicated their lives to equipping us to stay authentically ourselves, like Jesus did, even in life’s most difficult moments.

Shawna shares how she reached the end of herself during a meeting with hospice just weeks before her dad died. Chris helps her to see what was happening at that moment and steps we all can take to stay relationally present even when we most want to eject.

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How would you feel if you were offered 10 million dollars? What if it meant you wouldn’t wake up tomorrow? You’d probably pass. Another day of life is more valuable than 10 million dollars. So what are you going to do with this priceless day?

Perry bragged about himself yesterday. He wanted to impress Ben. He finds it so easy to boast in himself. But he’s learning is to boast in the only one who’s worthy—King Jesus. When we boast in him we begin feel the pleasure of why we’ve been created!

God’s love for us is always a reality but sometimes we need to be reminded of its truth. Shawna shares how an unexpected text that reminded her of another truth completely changed her outlook for the day.

In the journey with Jesus, he leads us into humility. He reveals to us, more and more, a deep awareness of our sin. You see this in Paul who went from “I’m faultless before God,” to, “I’m the greatest sinner who ever lived.” How do we handle this descent without becoming devastated?

Shawna hates having a sliver dug out. She’d rather pretend it’s not there. She realized that she does this emotionally too. What are the consequences of denial when we leave unwanted feelings just under the surface and try to pretend they aren’t there?

Last, when Perry struggled with sin as a teenager, he was afraid to come to God with his mess. The only thing he could say was, “Lord help me with my problem.” Why do we run from God and not to him?

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Have you ever so blatantly disobeyed God that you actually did the opposite of what God told you to do?

Pastor & author, Steve Norman of Winning at Home, joins us to talk about what we can learn about God and about ourselves from the story of Jonah in the Bible.

God told Jonah to go to Nineveh and warn them to turn from their sin but Jonah rebelled and ran the other direction. He hated the Ninevites!

As Jonah was running we see how God used even Jonah’s disobedience to turn others toward him when the pagan sailors began to worship the true God.

God’s compassion is enough for all of us—Jonah experienced compassion in the belly of a fish even though he was running from his mission. And Ninevah experienced compassion through Jonah’s preaching even though he still longed for the people to be destroyed!

Then, in the day in and day out we may not see transformation, but God is working. Shawna’s friend Cheryl realized how she was different from who she used to be when she took a road trip to the Rock & Roll Hall of Fame.

Have you ever felt overwhelmed by your love for God? Todd, a listener, texted to share with us an incredible moment he had with the Lord – a moment that made him want to burst into dance!

Then Perry shares, “There are moments when something will trigger a painful memory of one of my worst sins.” That happened to Perry last week. He shares his default mode to deal with the shame. Maybe you’ll relate.

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Alone.

After losing his marriage, his ministry, his job – all the things that were his identity, Dave McIntyre, Director of Set Free Global, was invited to enter the process of becoming a contestant on the survival show Alone.

And he was one of 10 selected to be left alone in the rocky, wet terrain of the north end of Vancouver Island, British Colombia.

His heart was full of regret and revenge. He had lost 35 pounds. He was hungry. He was miserable. And he had no one and nothing to distract him from it.

Thirty or so days into his time “alone” he had to face his own sin and the sin of those who had grievously harmed those he loved the most.

What happened? How did it impact him?

Dave joins us to share his incredible story of coming to the end of himself and to the beginning of freedom in Christ.

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In our sex-obsessed world, it might seem ironic that men need more talk about sex. But in reality, sexuality is one of the most neglected conversations for men.

The message Shawna grew up with was “Men want sex all the time. They can’t help it.” Where’s God in that? There must be more to the story.

Christian counselor and trauma therapist, Sam Jolman, who specializes in men’s issues joins us to talk about his new book The Sex Talk You Never Got.

Perry, Shawna and Sam talk about pornography, shame, struggling alone, how to have conversations about sex at any age, and God’s good plan for our sexuality.

So, married or single, The Sex Talk You Never Got will help men discover the joy of their God-given sexuality and invite them to celebrate - rather than struggle against – the gift of sexual desire.

One day you will stand before God, faultless, blameless, without a single sin or stain. What the heck? How is that even possible? Because even the most godly person still has faults right up to their final breath.

Lastly, in the late nights, full days and vacations of summer how do you maintain regular time with Jesus? Shawna shares some of her favorite ways to sneak away with her first love in the summer months.

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Who did you look up to as a kid? Maybe a celebrity or professional athlete? Maybe there’s someone you look up to now. What if that person was unable to meet your expectations or if they weren’t here anymore?

Psalms 146 reminds us that people will fail us but God never will. He holds the world in His hands and He is present with us to give us the wisdom we need for life, real time.

Ever stress out about God’s will for your life? Scott shares how he did earlier in life and what insight from Chuck Swindoll helped him to relax and realize that it would all be okay.

Pride is something people struggle with. Ben shares a recent struggle with pride, and how he reacted to how the Lord made Ben feel about his pride.

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Perry asks “If God created everything good, why has my suffering friend had to suffer all his life?” And Jeff, a Perry and Shawna listener asks similarly, “If God made everything, why is there death?”

Dr. J joins us to answer Bible questions! Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught graduate level theology for nearly 15 years.

He answers the following Bible questions (including above) from listeners like you.

When we’re reading the Bible how can we know if the promises we’re reading are for the people they were written to, or for us? Jeremiah 29:11 for example.

Perry shares, “God put a passion in my heart for God’s word when I was 16, but I never grew in the word cause I didn’t read it till I was 18! So Jeremy talks about why reading the word is such a big deal.

Then how the scripture transforms us inside out. And Jacqueline asks, “Is the Sabbath meant only for the Jews or is for us as well?”

Next, “What does it mean in Jeremiah that God is married to the backslider?” (It’s a beautiful window in to the astonishing grace of God). And Ronda asks, “Who was the first Jew, Adam, Eve, Abraham??”

What does true Biblical repentance look like? And last Ed asks, “Were humans more wicked before the flood than we are now? And if God judged the world so severely back then and he will destroy it again with fire, what really is God’s heart toward us? I thought he’s a God of love!!”

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Abandoned before he was born. Fatherless his entire life. Then He met God.

The first bit of fatherly advice he got from his Heavenly Father was to forgive his earthly dad. He didn’t want to but he did.

He chose to forgive him for abandoning him which was the beginning of his healing journey. Today, he’s grateful for his father’s absence because of what God has done through him because of it.

John Smithbaker is the founder of Fathers in the Field and the author of The Great American Rescue. To connect a fatherless boy with a consistent, godly mentor or to find out how your church can help defend the cause of the fatherless go to Fathersinthefield.com.

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It was a Sunday morning and pastor Jason was heading out the door when his wife said, “Before you go, give the kids a kiss goodbye.” That was the last time he saw them. He filed a missing person’s report. Thirty days later Jason was served divorce papers.

He spread them out across his bedroom floor and stood on them as he worshiped God, believing that God could do the impossible.

They were divorced. Even though his wife encouraged him to move on God told Jason to remain “supernaturally stubborn.”

One day Jason said to his wife about her boyfriend, “when he breaks your heart…I will be here.” Four days later Jason and his wife, Christine, were remarried.

Jason Carver is the author of 40 Day Stand: A 40 Day Devotional Empowering You To Stand Supernaturally for Your Marriage. Reminding you that there isn’t anything our God cannot do.

Also in this episode, Shawna talks about a friend who owed her money. She knew she had really forgiven him when she didn’t remember the amount he owed anymore.

And last, it was 3 long years that Perry and Shawna listener Brian and his bride has no relationship with their son and his wife and their grandkids. There was a rift, Brian longed for it to be made right, but his son had been hurt.

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To embrace the present you need to make peace with your past. Dr. Ming Wang learned this first hand when the challenges of bringing a blind child from darkness to light made him come face to face with his own darkness.

SIGHT, starring Greg Kinnear and Terry Chen, follows the true story of Dr. Ming Wang, a Chinese American who defies all odds to become a world-renowned eye surgeon. Drawing on the grit he gained growing up in the Chinese cultural revolution of the 70’s, Dr. Wang sets out to restore the sight of a blind orphan.

Dr. Wang shares how his heart was moved from atheist to Jesus follower, how faith works with science (not against it), and the incredible advances in technology and their impact on eye surgeries today.

Also, in this episode Shawna shares how God is showing her through Proverbs and personal reflection the idolatry of self-worship.

And Perry shares, “If my life was always easy, I don’t think my desire for Jesus would be that deep.” From Perry’s life and the apostle Paul, we have a conversation about the transformational power of hardship.

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As a college student, Jack began wrestling with everything he believed about Jesus, he started to doubt if it was true. When he asked his friends if they had doubts, they would say “Nope!” That’s when a pastor pointed him to the gospel of John.

Jack Haveman, station manager of 89.3 Moody Radio Grand Rapids joins the team to share stories of his journey with Jesus and what’s in the next season after he retires at the end of June.

Jack shares a time when he experienced both the discipline and the incredible love of God at the same time.

Then, it was a Share fund-raising event for 89.3 and as manager, Jack had seen the station hit the goal every year. But this particular year it wasn’t going well and he was frustrated. He realized it was his pride. That’s when he decided to tell all West Michigan about it!

Most people don’t look forward to going to jail, but Jack does! He shares how God is calling him to serve in jail ministry in the next season. Share your thanks to Jack for his ministry here!

Also, in this episode, Perry was 10 when he put his faith in Jesus. That’s when he was set right with God, and though he would go on to commit the worst sins of his life, his standing with God never wavered. How can this be?

Lastly, Shawna was not ready to say goodbye to her dad. As she met with the Lord to process her dad’s failing health He reminded her that He would never leave her and that she would be together again with her dad someday in heaven.

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As Christians we’re called to forgive one another. But does that mean we don’t recognize what others did as wrong? When do we cross a line into enabling others to continue in their sin?

Travis Thompson, drawing from his own personal addiction and recovery, helps us navigate the challenges of addiction to develop sustainable recovery strategies.

Travis is a licensed marriage and family therapist and the author of To Those With Faith: Helping the Church Understand and Support Healing for Those in Addiction.

In this episode he also shares what we can learn from the life of David. There were bread crumbs of sin in David’s life that lead right up to his sin with Bathsheba.

Travis believes that the Bible is more than an instruction manual for Christian living – it’s the most applicable document to healing the soul for believers and nonbelievers alike.

Also, Shawna shares that following Jesus is a lifestyle of one eighties. The Bible calls it “repentance.”

As a kid, before Perry gave his live over to Jesus, he was asked by a young pastor, “Perry are you saved yet?” Perry’s answer then tells us so much about the default mode of the human heart: “I’m working on it!”

Lastly, though it’s painful to have to stop and look at our sin, to name it and own it – being specific with God in confessing our sin can help us to avoid the same sin in the future. In confession we are reminded of God’s faithfulness to forgive us and cleanse us.

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Perry shares, “The media wants me to take a side on the war in Israel, student protesters do, politicians do, the media does, so here’s where I come down.”

Hate isn’t politically correct. So, it caught Shawna off guard when she came across the words in scripture, “God hates…” Do you know what God hates? He hates pride. Pride leads us away from Him and the very best thing for us is to run to and remain close to Him all the days of our life.

There are days when praising God comes easy. Then there are days when we wonder if we are going to make it. On those days we bring a sacrifice of praise. But every day God is worthy of our “Hallelujah!”

When it comes to financial giving we tend to think only about our cash resources. Are there other ways to be financially generous to God and His church beyond your checking or savings account? Rob West, president of Kingdom Advisors and host of Faith & Finance Live has the answer!

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It seems that everyone knows someone who’s struggling with mental health. Is that because we’re more open about mental health, or because more people are struggling with their mental health?

Dean VanderMey of Set Free Ministries joins us to share how the way we’re living, the choices we’re making, the habits we’re forming are deeply affecting our mental health. He shares rules and tools that set us free!

There are 3 M’s that keep us from experiencing freedom in Christ: meditating on our pain, medicating our pain, and being motivated by our pain. To experience freedom in Christ we can instead: Face our pain, forgive those who’ve hurt us, and follow Jesus.

He reminds us of the importance of taking every thought captive and making them obedient to Christ as well. There truly is freedom in following God’s instructions that he gives us in His Word.

Also, Shawna gets honest about how the Lord has convicted her of looking at worthless things. Our great God who loves us rescues us from what holds us captive.

Perry says, “I wasn’t looking for Jesus. I was just wanting to play hoops so I could get a scholarship to play college basketball.” But Jesus found Perry that night and that gave him deep love for Jesus. But he shares, “I still love him so imperfectly!”

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God has been showing Shawna the sin of pride in her heart. It’s painful. But so, so good of Him to lead us into righteousness.

One of Perry’s favorite films is the 90’s classic Twister. Besides thinking it super romantic, Perry thinks it’s an amazing story of how God uses storms to transform us.

Have you ever let someone steal your peace? On Saturday morning Shawna was flying back from Orlando and “airport guy” tried to put fear in her heart. But she kept her eyes on Jesus and trusted Him to get her home.

It was one of the first times Perry was filled up with the Holy Spirit. He was a teenager in a living room in St. Paul, MN with other teenagers praying for him. He didn’t expect anything to happen. But what happened still astonishes him to this day.

When she was in her twenties Shawna was so anxious. She beat herself up every night for not being perfect. An experience with Jesus made her realize how loved she truly is and freed her to love others. How has God’s love changed you?

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She was just 5 years old when she gave her life to Jesus, but at nineteen, as a college student with friends of many beliefs, she had questions about her own faith. Her search for answers to those questions led to even deepter faith.

Lindsey Medenwaldt is an author, speaker & apologist passionate about how we talk with people of other faiths.

When Perry’s Muslim friend questioned Perry’s belief in Jesus Perry humbly admitted that he didn’t have an immediate answer to his friend’s questions but promised that he would look into it and follow up with his friend.

There are many who have questions about Jesus, the Bible, and if the resurrection really happened. There are solid answers to those questions, inside and outside the Bible.

Lindsey encourages us to be ourselves and naturally enter into conversations about what we believe with others through genuine friendship.

Also, in this episode, having our sin pointed out is painful. But when it’s God doing it, it’s only love that’s behind it. Perry and Shawna get honest about how God is showing them their pride.

Last, last week was really hard for Perry’s suffering friend, he was spiraling out of control. But Perry and his suffering friend were not swept away by the raging torrent because of one powerful promise of God!

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Grammy and Dove award winning artist Ce Ce Winans, who sang “Goodness of God,” on the American Idol finale on May 19, joins the team! Ce Ce shares how she fell in love with the Father; and when life got so hard she didn’t think she could take another step.

Ce Ce also shares that the Lord is calling her into deeper water. She muses, “I pray God will work through me like he did in Acts!” “People brought the sick into the streets and laid them on mats so that Peter’s shadow might fall on some of them,” (Acts 5:15).

Then, when Ce Ce won the Dove award for Artist of the Year in 2022, it was totally unexpected. She hadn’t rehearsed her speech. As she stepped up to the mic, what came out of her mouth was stunning and beautiful.

Next, what will Jesus do to reach someone? Whatever it takes. Case in point, Jesus showed up at the 2024 American Idol finale through Ce Ce Winans and Roman Collins. Then Ben asks Perry for the story behind his new single, Tears This Side of Eden. Tears was birthed in suffering, not victory.

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Perry was on his way to the studio today when Satan shot a piercing arrow of accusation at him about one of his past sins. And then it occurred to him, “Oh the enemy’s opposing me cause I’ll be talking about the 1500 people groups in the world that still don’t have the gospel.” The enemy loathes the idea of these peoples being reached.

Mike Latsko of FrontiersUSA says, “Let’s give the devil a really bad day by reaching these people groups!” Mike shares the grief he feels about people like you who don’t have a chance to worship Jesus because no one’s brought the gospel to them. The 1500 include Muslims, Buddhists, Hindu, and tribal peoples.

One of the obstacles to reaching these 1500 is that we’re not sending anybody to them. Why?? Another obstacle is that all the easy places in the world have been reached. What’s left are the hardest places!

Another obstacle: We’re in a war. Satan and his minions have been doing all they can for 2000 years to keep these peoples from being reached. Then, God is doing something unprecedented in 2024. The gospel is spreading virally among previously unreached peoples. What if leaders in these movements could go to the 1500?

Last, the gospel has not reached every person and place on the planet. But it will happen: “The earth will be filled with the knowledge of the glory of the LORD as the waters cover the sea!” (Hab. 2:14). Be part of reaching the 1500 by downloading the Priority 100 prayer app, daily prayer points for the 100 people and places in the world with least access to the gospel.

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Nisar grew up in war-torn Kosovo in a Muslim family, and he never once heard the name of Jesus till he was 17. But in 2001 a team of Jesus messengers came to his town to teach English using the Bible. And that was how Jesus found him.

Nisar shares the deep emptiness he experienced in Islam; how terrified he was of death; how God’s word cut him like a sword, showing him his sin and the only way to forgiveness.

He shares what it’s like to live under the weight of trying to earn God’s favor. He takes us to the moment the Holy Spirit flooded his heart with God’s love!

He shares how his family rejected him and how after 20 years he’s planning to go back to Kosovo to reach them. Share this amazing story of Nisar’s journey from Islam to Jesus!

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Aaron Bolduc joins the team to coach us up in sharing the good news of Jesus. Aaron put his faith in Jesus listening to Moody Radio. And all these years later he’s a gifted sharer of the good news and is a gifted evangelism coach.

Here’s the ground we cover: First a provocative question that can lead to a deeper conversation, “Tell me what you think a Christian is in one sentence.”

And this more risky question: “Have you ever thought about what happens to you when you die?” Aaron shares how the Lord helped him reach a young Japanese man with this question.

Then, sharing the gospel fuels your walk with God! Also, Aaron’s epic failure: “Watch this!” Aaron was hanging out with his girlfriend when he spotted some Mormon missionaries. He wanted to impress his girlfriend but instead learned a huge lesson in humility.

Next, when Aaron was a youth pastor he took his students out to share Jesus. He kept getting yelled at. But a quiet teenage girl, sharing the gospel for the first time, led a woman to Jesus. That’s when Aaron learned that God doesn’t need us, but he wants us.

Then this listener question: “How do you reach someone who’s walked away from their faith?” And this one, “How do I gently and easily talk with someone about Jesus?”

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Dr. Jeremy GrinnelI earned his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at the graduate level for nearly 15 years. He’s takes on Bible questions today.

In 2 Sam 14:2 and 2 Sam 20:16: These 2 passages speak of a wise woman. Why aren’t women named more in the Old Testament?

What will we be doing for eternity? We were born with certain talents and special abilities; will these be brought with us into the age to come?

What do we say to those who claim, “the Bible has contradictions, therefore, God can't be trusted?”

In Exodus 4:24-26, what the what is going on here?? Moses is on his way to Egypt to deliver Israel, and God decides to kill him? But then his wife steps in and saves the day. Please explain!

Do you think the physical body of the risen Christ is the same body he had when he appeared physically in the Old Testament? And will our glorified bodies in the age to come be similar to our bodies now?

What’s the difference between “believes,” and "obey,” in John 3:36? “Whoever believes in the Son has eternal life; whoever does not obey the Son shall not see life, but the wrath of God remains on him.

Last, how do you handle the storms of life? Shawna shares that when her father was dying she learned that she would do anything to avoid that storm. But, when we remember that God is with us we can face any storm.

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Perry got a call from his suffering friend demanding his immediate help. In that moment Perry had to figure out how to be patient, kind, and wise all at the same time! Patience is super hard in our on-demand culture.

We used to have to wait days or weeks to get a package in the mail. Now we expect it the next day or even same day delivery. We live in a culture that is fascinated with efficiency and shortcuts.

We have become accustomed to having our wants and needs met “immediately.” But in the haste to become more efficient, we often lose the gift of patience and the art of self-control.

Clinical Director at Winning At Home, Emilie DeYoung, shares the benefits of learning to wait, how to cultivate patience, and the need to keep an eternal perspective 24/7/365.

Also, in this episode Shawna shares that we can talk with God while talking with others. She shares a time when God led her through a painfully difficult conversation.

Last, guilt says, “You did wrong.” Shame says, “You are wrong.” Perry shares about his journey with shame, how it poisons and cripples, and what is the only antidote for it!

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Many of us go through life pretending everything is perfect. Driven by fear, we hide behind a mask of confidence while secretly wrestling with self-doubt, anxiety, and isolation. But we don’t have to live this way.

Author, speaker and Bible teacher, Ann White wore the mask for years until God prompted her to tell her pastor everything. Through discipleship she learned to stop letting her past interrupt her present and to move forward into God’s good plans for her life.

God has given you the courage you need to step into the authentic, abundant life he created you for. Rise each day inspired and empowered to overcome any obstackle and walk confidently in your faith with Ann’s new devotional, Courage for Today.

Also in the podcast, Lisa Anderson was single, pregnant, a teenager, and after she had her son was homeless for a season. As she rose out of the ashes she went garage sale-ing for a table. Hoping for a family to sit around that table someday.

That’s when she met Grace Adams and the table Grace had for sale. A table where 60 years of memories where made. And Grace said, “If you’ll promise to do the same thing, I’ll give you this table for what you have.”

And that’s how Grace’s Table, the ministry Lisa founded for single, teen mothers was born! An amazing story. Please share it!

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This was what Perry realized just after his sophomore year in college. That he needed to make a major shift in his heart to follow Jesus, to be all in. He realized, following Jesus is not the freedom to sin, it’s the freedom to live a new life that leads to eternal life!

Then, why are you following Jesus? After feeding 5000, more and more people were following Jesus. They were hungry. Jesus told the hungry crowd, “I am the bread of life.”

Shawna shares about the anxiety she’s feeling right now. She feels weak. But she’s hopeful because God’s word says, “When we are weak, then we are strong.” And the way to tap into that strength, is to boast in our weakness!

God challenged Perry to give us his most prized possession when he was 22. His Ovation acoustic guitar. It was a way to reach a friend for Jesus but even more, it was a way to die to an idol in his heart.

Do you wonder if God has a plan for your life? If He does, what if you mess it up? Looking at the life of David we see how God uses every part of our lives, even our mess up’s, to fulfill His plan’s for us.

Shawna love tacos, and cinnamon rolls. And God loves her. We toss around the word “love” pretty easily. But the Biblical understanding of the word “Love” in Hebrew has a much richer meaning.

Hebrew Teacher, Melissa Briggs, says the word “love” or Chesed is not a fickle or weak love but rather a strong, committed, loyal, covenant, steadfast love – exactly what every heart longs for.

She also explains the Hebrew meaning of the words “help” and “fear.” For a $50 discount on Hebrew Learning Courses with Melissa use the code HEBREW50.

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Life is filled with seasons that we don’t see coming. Some are beautiful and some make you feel like you have lost track of which way is up. Every day can feel like a battle. Christina Shug. Founder of Shug Counseling desires as a clinician is to come alongside you, or your child & family, as you navigate the challenges on your journey towards healing & deep, abiding peace.

Christina shares a time that she was looking in empty wells to quench a thirst that seemed unquenchable. Through the unrelenting invitation of a good friend she reluctantly attended a conference. That is where she experienced the living God and gave her life to Him.

Also, Shawna challenges us to think differently about faith. It’s more than what we believe about God. It’s how we live because of what we believe about God. Faith requires action!

Lastly, Scott reminds us that even though we are tempted to believe security can be found in a healthy savings account or a million other things we put our trust in, that God is a strong tower, the safest place of all. The righteous run into it and are safe.

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Just a few words can have a lasting impact. Shawna, Ben and Perry share words that wounded their young hearts. I’m sure you have wounds of your own. Messages that landed in your heart that directly contradict how God feels about you. If God spoke to those wounds, what would He say?

Then, if you’ve made decisions that have left you and others hurt – that have brought you to a place that feels dark or desperate – you’re not alone.

Dr. Chris Rappazini, author of Moving Forward After Messing Up reminds us that God is the God of second chances. He shares about his regret in not going after his brother when he went off the deep end.

We talk about the difference between shame and conviction and how hard it is to forgive ourselves even when we know that we are forgiven by God.

Also, in this episode, Shawna reveals how not knowing what to tell her 8-year-old daughter accidentally led to a life shaping moment for both of them.

When Perry first gave his life over to Jesus on the playground in 5th grade, his first prayer as a believer was, “Lord don’t let me ever fall away.” It showed a desire to go the distance but also a fear of not really being safe forever. Can we know we’re safe in God’s family?

Lastly, Shawna shares how her short stint in beauty pageants left her feeling like every day she was walking the runway. Perry points out that she was being discipled in “perfection.” Shawna needed the gospel to remind her that she is already crowned in God’s eyes.

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It’s something Perry admits he has done and does. But because God has put eternity in our hearts He the only One who can give us the joy we long for.

Shawna describes following Jesus as a daily dethroning of self. It’s pride that causes us to think that our own thoughts and ideas supersede God’s. Only humility can correct that.

We often cry out to God when we’re scared and we don’t know what to do. But in areas where we have confidence we tend to rely on our own understanding instead of asking God for advice.

Last, at the start of the war between Israel and Hamas, Israeli soldiers were asking their wives to abort their babies because of their fear of the future.

But now that these soldiers have seen death, they are begging their wives to have those babies. That’s where the Israeli pro-life team Efrat has stepped in.

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Americans are obsessed with murder. True crime podcasts and documentaries are often found at the top of ratings charts.

For Decades, cold-case homicide detective J. Warner Wallace investigated the causes behind deaths and murders, chasing one lead after another for months as he attempted to solve the case.

Investigating death taught Wallace a great deal about life and the nature of people. In his latest book, The Truth in True Crime, Wallace explores the clues lying behind our human nature as he uncovers fifteen life-truths gleaned from both contemporary murder investigations and ancient Biblical wisdom.

Truths like: Human beings were created for worship, for community, to pursue humility, and to seek justice and mercy.

Wallace uses his experience as a homicide detective to give a one-of-a-kind look at human nature, the struggles we face, and how each of us desires and seeks Truth.

By highlighting details of real-life death investigations, Wallace invites us into the drama, only to find out what really matters in the end.

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As Christians, when we take a stand for our faith, we want to avoid coming across as combative or adversarial. While it’s important to be uncompromising when we communicate the truth, Scripture also calls us to speak the truth with love.

But in a world that seems as hostile as ever, how do we do that? How do we stand firmly in what we believe and build rock solid and loving relationships when we differ on the essentials? On things of eternal significance?

Lindsey Medenwaldt, author of Bridge Building Apologetics shares how to engage in a conversation about Jesus with those who question our beliefs. How to pray before, after, and during those conversations. And she even models for us how to share the gospel in 30 seconds!

Then, if you’re a woman, in your honest moments, do you feel beautiful or do you feel ugly. In a culture that demands image perfection, the gospel tells us we’re beautiful for a completely different reason than what the culture gives.

Lastly, do you struggle to trust God in your life? When someone has wronged you and you feel so justified in holding on to unforgiveness, do you wrestle with God’s command to forgive others like He’s forgiven you? What does the Bible say about those who trust their own wisdom over God’s?

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That’s what Bob Blincoe said to Jesus in the 1990’s when he moved his family to Northern Iraq where, at the time, there we 0 missionaries in a million! And because God works with the unqualified there’s now a growing church of Kurdish Muslim background believers there.

Bob Blincoe of FrontiersUSA joins the podcast to call you and me to give up our smaller ambitions and bring the gospel to places and peoples in the world that have NO access to the word of God.

First Bob talks about the power of 0 missionaries in a million and the power of being unqualified to plant the good news where it’s never been heard andhow God loves these odds! Then Perry admits, “I want my heart to be a flame for the lost, but I’ve become lukewarm.”

Perry asks Bob, “When you breathe your last breath, by the grace of God, what do you hope to see looking back at your life.” Next, Perry also asks Bob, “Should the reality of hell motivate us to go?” Then, “All the sad things will come untrue.” Just look at Psalm 22.

Last, Bob is just now into his 8th decade of life, but his passion to preach the gospel where Christ is not known burns hot as does his passion to send the next generation to finish the Great Commission! Please share this show!

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Dr. Jeremy GrinnelI has answers to your Bible questions. Jeremy earned his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary, he’s a bible teacher, a fantasy author and has an amazing story of redemption!

In this episode he answers the following questions:

How do you explain the virgin birth?

The bible talks about “true Jews,” and those who are ethically Jewish but aren’t “true Jews.” What’s up with that?

What do I say to those who question God's love and mercy when He allows innocents to suffer & perish?

How are we to be “in this world,” coming alongside those who don’t know Jesus, and not be “of the world”?

If once we’re saved, we’re always saved, then why do we need to be sanctified?

And, what even is sanctification?

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Perry was about 9. He was at the free throw line and thought, “If I hit this shot I’ll go to heaven.” The drive to earn God’s favor started early in Perry. But it’s actually imbedded in the human heart. What are the ways we’re still “shooting free throws” to get God’s favor?

Next, it’s by believing in Jesus’ work that we are set right with God, not by our own works. But Shawna says, “Believing for me, at times, is hard work.” So is faith a kind of work we do to get God’s favor?

Ever wish you had a more powerful testimony? Shawna has. There’s never been a time she didn’t know God’s love. But she shares, “It also breaks my heart that even though I’ve always known God’s love, I’ve still chased lesser things.” We all need to run home to God’s radical grace and forgiveness.

Then, Shawna’s been noticing how often we use the word “invitation” when we talk about what God is calling us to do and be. Perry and Shawna wrestle with, “Is what God has called us to an invitation or is it actually a command?”

During Perry’s senior year at Olivet he became hyper-aware of the sins of his teenage years. He felt the compulsion to go back and fix everything. He felt the need to be punished. That’s when the gospel began to come alive in his heart!

What God has done for us in radically canceling our sin debt may leave us wondering if that decision can be revoked? Is it too good to be true? Praise God that as he hung on the cross Jesus declared, “It is finished!”

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I hope laughter is a regular part of your days. Maybe we even get to be a part of that. Laughter is so good for the soul.

But life isn’t always funny or fun. How do we not lose our joy in those moments and seasons?

Emmy-nominated comedian, Chonda Pierce, believes that humor can help. Her new book Life Is Funny Until It’s Not will make you laugh and cry. Maybe all at once.

Chonda takes the risk to rawly and honestly share her life story, the good, bad, and really hard, to help you and me.

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Steve DeWitt, author of Loneliness: Don’t Hate It or Waste It. Redeem It & Senior Pastor of Bethel Church in the Chicagoland area, joins us to share that our moments and even our long seasons of heart aching loneliness need to be gospelized.

Loneliness doesn’t have to be our enemy. It can be the path God uses to move us toward flourishing in our relationship with God and the people in our world.

Then, do you ever feel like you’re not really known, and if you were, you’d be disqualified? Shawna felt that way just last week with a group of colleagues.

Perry admits: “I can so easily fall into thinking I have to perform to get God’s love. But perfectionism is bondage and the gospel is the only things that can free me!”

Lastly, what habits are being established now that will serve you well in the future?

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If you have a desire to grow in your faith, strengthen your relationships, gain wisdom, grow new habits, experience more peace and live with purpose and passion then you’re in the right place.

We’re talking with Jesse Bradley, pastor of Grace Community Church in Seattle. Their church has created 28 Days of Hope, a commitment of 28 minutes a day for 28 days that will be sure to super-size your hope and grow your faith.

Alongside hope we talk about starting a drive-through prayer ministry at your church and growing a multi-ethnic church!

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Kali Joy has experienced the night. And the dawn. And she’s written songs about both.

Kali’s a singer, songwriter, worship leader and Perry’s daughter! She shares the story behind her song “There Will Be a Light Again,” that came out of a time of dying in 2020.

She shares how God has and is creating something out of nothing in her life and how he does and will do the same for us.

Then she shares the story behind her new song “Night Won’t Last Forever,” which mirrors how God has brought her out of a dying season into new life.

And last we talk about finding our identity in God’s love for us and not in what we do or achieve or accomplish. Kali’s heart has been softened and healed by Jesus and she knows the Lord will do the same for you and me!

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A couple weeks back Perry saw an open door to share his faith in the sauna. It started out great but quickly it crashed and burned.

Wouldn’t it be great to have an evangelism coach? Someone who could give us some tips and pointers on how to engage those who don’t know Jesus in a winsome way?

Aaron Bolduc of Ambassadors For Christ International joins the team to coach us up on sharing Jesus with the world He SO loves!

Perry and Shawna both share times when it didn’t go as hoped. And Aaron has some encouragement for those times, and how to walk away from them actually feeling encouraged.

Aaron also offers some tips for opening up a conversation about God and the Bible, the difference between outreach and evangelism, and the importance of talking to God about people before we talk to people about God.

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Having been sent to India for 3 days in preparation for our campaign with India Partners this week, Shawna put a lot of pressure on herself to bring her best to the campaign. After three nights of very little sleep, her body and mind were failing her on the first dayof the campaign.

She felt like she had failed. After a good, looooooong nap, the Lord gently reminded her that HE was the One doing the work. He’s God. We’re not.

Then, when Jesus calmed the storm for the disciples, were they at peace because the storm stopped, or because they realized they were in the presence of God?

Perry shares, “Sometimes I still have doubts that I’m secure in God’s forever family. And I think I always will. But I’ve learned what to do with these doubts.”

If you think the prize for giving your life to Jesus is heaven, you’re wrong. The prize for giving your life to Jesus is Jesus!

We all have moments when we feel like God is far away but God’s Word says that He will never leave us. Never!

We know we’re meant to live full on for Jesus and love people as he’s loved us. And when we don’t it can send us into God avoidance. But that’s precisely when we need to draw near!

Last, when God told Noah to build a boat, he built a boat. Even when there was no evidence that it would even rain much less flood the earth. What is God calling you to do?

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Americans Are Hungry For God’s Word!

How do we know? The research tells us so.

Dr. John Plake is a researcher with a pastor’s heart. As the Chief Program Officer at American Bible Society he joins us to share data from first chapter of their 14th Annual State of the Bible report.

He shares that Americans are interested in what the Bible has to say, especially our young adults. Dr. Plake says, “Last year, 50% of Gen Z adults (ages 18-27) agreed that the message of the Bible has transformed their lives. This year, that number rose to 54%. If this trend continues, we have good reason for hope.”

Then, when you share your faith it’s OK to say, “You know what, I don’t have the answer to that. But I’ll find out and get back with you!” Perry had to do this the other day in a conversation with his Muslim friend and it was so humbling cause he wanted to have an answer!

“What if a thousand sleepless nights are what it takes to know You're near?”– Laura Story. Pain takes us deep into relationship with God. And Perry and Shawna talk about how they wrestle to surrender to the way of the cross.

Last, serving, at times, can feel like a box we need to check off our Christian to-do list. But that’s not how Jesus approached it. Serving wasn’t something he did, it’s who He is. What would it take for you and me to love and serve others like Jesus?

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Underneath every sin is a lie that we have believed. Whether it’s believing “It’ll never be enough”, “No one will love me if I don’t perform”, “I’m all alone” or whatever lie you have believed, that lie is impacting your behavior, your relationships, your life!

How do we uncover the lies?

How do we know what’s true?

David Doerner, Lead Pastor at Frontline Church, is with us to not only answer those questions but to remind us of the lifegiving truth that God is with us, He loves us, and He provides everything we need.

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Sometimes the truth can be hard to find. We live in an age when it only takes a few seconds to look up anything we want to know. But how reliable are the answers we get?

S. Michael Houdman and GotQuestions.org have cut through the confusion, answering even the hardest of questions with clarity, grace and love for more than two decades.

It was through his own questions being answered that Shea came to give his life to Jesus and that’s why he is so passionate about answering your questions with the biblical truth we need to better understand God, ourselves, and the world we live in.

Shea joins us to talk about his new book The 100 Most Asked Questions About God and the Bible.

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Even in the hardest things, we can learn to fix our eyes on the God who brings us out of the dark night.

Even in the hardest things, we can learn to fix our eyes on the God who brings us out of the dark night.

Broken Dreams. Discouragement. Grief. Kat Shultis has been there. In My Lowest For His Highest, Kat shares with honesty and depth about walking through valleys and days of wilderness.

Kat helps you delve into the heart of our heavenly Father when you find yourself in a story that’s not what you’d hoped it to be.

Also, Shawna, Perry & Ben respond to Masters winner, Scottie Scheffler’s comments on the pressure to win he was feeling on Sunday morning of the Masters. And the wisdom his buddies shared with him that helped reset his heart for the day.

Last, it would take 200,000 years at the speed of light to cross just our Milky Way Galaxy and there are billions of galaxies! And yet the God who created them all knows and loves you!

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As Jesus followers we experience significant gaps between what we believe about God and what we encounter from God. We believe God loves us, but we struggle to experience it.

We believe God is with us, but we struggle to see it. We thought we’d be further along in our faith by now. Often our best efforts keep us stuck in those gaps.

In The Expectations Gap, pastor and systems theorist Steve Cuss shows us how to notice stuck patterns that keep us trapped and how we can break free to engage God at a deeper and more fulfilling level.

We will always have to mind the gaps, but we can learn to notice the recurring, predictable patterns that keep us stuck and spinning. Steve offers real-life tools to:

  • Quiet the inner critic,
  • Wrangle chronic anxiety,
  • And relax into God’s presence, engaging him in a deeper, more visceral way.

Next, Shawna likens our journey of learning to follow God to that of the Israelites in the wilderness. She shares a specific way that the Lord led her recently.

Perry had a blow up in trying to share his faith on Sunday. It was a crash and burn, but he learned from it, and what he learned is so obvious!

Last, Shawna shares that in many ways, we don’t know how to be loved. We need to learn to be loved by God. And it will take a lifetime to learn it.

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Parenting is hard. In every season. We do what we can to set up the best possible future for our kids. We want them to have everything they need, knowing full well that we fall short of that. We have a front row seat to their bad decisions and can see that it leads to nowhere good.

Steve Norman of Winning at Home joins us to talk about what we can learn from the Bible about parenting adult kids today.

He says our job is to “bless and release.”

Part of blessing them is owning our own mistakes that have impacted their lives. In doing so we redirect them from making the same mistakes in theirs.

In every circumstance and in every season we can be sure of this truth: God is working in the hearts and lives of our kids.

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Dr. Jeremy Grinnell joins us to answer your bible questions, starting with “If I died today would I immediately go to heaven?”

Jeremy earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at a local seminary for nearly 15 years.

Here are the other questions Dr. Jeremy takes on in this episode:

“Okay, so I am going through a tough divorce. I know I am to be of 1 mind. I pray for the divorce to be over but also for reconciliation. Is there presidence for this type of bipolar prayer?”

“God was sorry he had made Saul king. Can you talk about that?”

“If we can so easily look up the original language for words, to gain better understanding, why isn't the bible written from that type of insight?”

Next, a couple of Shawna’s small group friends, Sandra Johnson & Nikki MacVean, stopped by the studio to surprise her for her birthday. She couldn’t wait to introduce them to you.

They share how reading God’s word together, and coming together to talk about it has impacted their lives. We need each other. We come to know God better when we’re walking in love relationship with Him with others!

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There are more female professionals in the workforce than ever. But working women are also time-starved, stressed, and tired. They often feel alone in their professional struggles.

If you’re trying to do a million things at once, it can feel like you’re not doing any of them well. You’re not alone!

Mentor and longtime corporate leader Peggy Bodde views work as sacred and has invested her life in showing women how to thrive in the workplace.

In Sacred Work, Peggy provides an invaluable and practical resource that answers all your leadership questions.

With business savvy, you’ll learn how to: overcome imposter syndrome, make difficult decisions, manage workplace conflict, promote yourself with confidence, and negotiate to win.

Then, there are special moments when we know the Lord is setting us apart to bring his light to the world. Is the next step then to go to seminary and prepare to be a pastor? Perry doesn’t think so.

Last, being shaped by the Holy Spirit isn’t something that will take place in your quiet time alone. It will require us to be attentive to the Holy Spirit in real time.

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And there’s help.

If your spouse is using a pattern of behaviors that constantly demean you, embarrass you and leave you wondering if you’re going crazy, you may be in an abusive situation.

It isn’t good for either of you to allow it to continue. The most loving thing you can do is get help.

Stacy Womack is the executive director of ARMS (Abuse Recovery Ministry Services) and she’s the author of On the Frontlines of Abuse.

If you’re not sure if you are in an abusive relationship click here.

God sees you. He’s for you. He loves you! And He doesn’t want you to be abused.

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When David Smallbone’s successful music company collapses, he moves his family from Australia to the United States in search of a brighter future.

With nothing more than their six children, their suitcases, and their love of music, David and his pregnant wife Helen set out to rebuild their lives from the ground up.

Based on a remarkable true story, a mum’s faith stands against all odds: and inspires her husband and children to hold onto theirs.

This is the family story of Luke and Joel Smallbone of For King & Country and their sister, Grammy-winning singer, songwriter Rebecca St. James.

Luke joins us to share the crash, burn, and resurrection of the Smallbone family in 1991, how the family decided what to reveal in the film about those dark days, what it was like for Luke to film his brother Joel playing their father.

He shares their struggle to find a female lead to play the role of their mom, and what it was like as a small boy to live through the extreme test of his family’s faith in the foreign land of America!

Unsung Hero, coming to theatres April 26, will move you to cry, to hold your family a little tighter, to believe in those you love, to hope when all hope seems lost and to keep your eyes on the God who provides every step of the way. You gotta see this film!

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We read our Bibles and pray, but we can still feel fragile, tired, and defeated.

We need breakthrough. We need healing. From our pasts. And from our present battles. But sometimes we feel stuck or despairing - as if nothing is ever going to change.

Dr. Marcus Warner, author of Breakthrough! 5 Essential Strategies for Freedom, Healing, and Wholeness, shows us the pathway to healing and maturity.

Also, the greatest obstacle to joy in this life is our own desire to rule and reign. Shawna has found that her walk with the Lord is a constant dethroning of herself.

So what would it look like to live today fully surrendered to the leadership of God? Not my will, but yours be done.

Then, Perry, Shawna, Ben, and Scott don’t like to make mistakes! And yesterday we made a ton of them. We share what we learned from the speedbumps. Walk with us as we learn to recover from perfectionism!

Last, for months now Shawna has passed a car with one headlight burned out. For months! This morning she found herself asking, “I wonder if they know they are driving with one headlight?”

That question was quickly followed by “I wonder what people see in me day in and day out that I’m not aware of?”

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Perry shares, “If only I could get a million streams on one of my songs, I’d be happy.” Really? What’s your “If only?” There’s actually only one thing that brings ultimate happiness, blessing. One thing to know we’re loved.

If you ever feel like you should be further along in life than you are you’ll be encouraged to hear that this life is a lifelong journey of learning! If you’re learning, you’re right on time!

Perry shares, “Since I decided to follow Jesus I’ve wanted to be wholehearted in my devotion to God. And what I’ve learned through the years is that I keep falling short and that there’s only one cure for my divided heart!”

Last, if life throws you off balance it might be helpful to have a focal point.

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Erskin Anavitarte is a Texas-born singer-songwriter, adoption advocate, and music co-producer who’s currently writing a book on leadership based on the ways of Jesus.

He grew up in the church but didn’t step into a personal relationship with God at church. He tells his story of surrendering to Jesus and then shares a song with us live in studio about the hope we have in Christ.

If Paul could write a letter to the American Church, what do you think he would say? Perry thinks he would sound a lot like Tim Keller. Shawna thinks he would challenge us to be uncomfortable, to take risks!

Then, God tests us to see what’s in our hearts, to see what we’re made of, to see if we love him most. Perry shares, “God tested me on Monday, and I saw that I needed to lay down an idol.”

Next, even if you have a great sense of direction you can get turned around. This happens in our relationship with God too.

Last, if you were to use your God given holy imagination, what would you imagine Jesus was up to on the Saturday after His crucifixion and before His resurrection?

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What kind of events were happening during the time King David wrote songs that led him to write so many verses about “protect me from my enemies” (like in Psalm 35)?

If you read the Bible then you probably have Bible questions. And we’ve got answers. Rather, Dr. Jeremy does.

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at seminary for nearly 15 years. Here are the questions he takes on in this episode.

Why did Jesus say to the thief on the cross that "today" he would be with him if Jesus wasn't going straight to heaven that day?

Does forbidding touching dead bodies refer to just people or does it include animals? (Referring to Samson).

Jesus sent the Holy Spirit to the disciples at Pentecost. Was the Holy Spirit available/present in the Old testament as He is now?

What does it mean to put on the armor of God? Seems to be something either crazy important or another Christian fad that we lift out of context like Jeremiah 29:11.

Assuming its importance, how do we put on the armor and keep it on throughout the day?

How about annihilation? The chaff will be burned up. The sticks go in the fire, turn to ashes and are no more. Eternal punishment seems like the punishment doesn't fit the crime.

And last, can fallen angels be forgiven and redeemed?

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She had just suddenly lost her 2-year-old daughter, Naomi. The pain was unbearable as she cried out the one word prayer that changed her life, “Help!”

Founder of Whole Heart Ministries, author, and international speaker, Jo Naughton, is dedicated to helping men, women, children, and teens be healed on the inside so we can fulfill our God-given purpose.

As adults and as parents we can experience healing from our own hurts and in turn help our children to experience healing from theirs.

Jo shares why healing is so necessary and how it is a catalyst for change.

Then you’re probably heard it said there are two things we should never bring up, religion and politics. So naturally Perry brings us religion and politics! In particular Israel’s war with Hamas and what he thinks about it.

Have you ever felt like God was absent? There are times in our relationship with God when it feels like He’s far away. In these moments, rather than relying on our perception or our feelings we can trust God and His Word to never leave us or forsake us.

If you’ve ever felt the nudge to pray for someone but also felt afraid that you would say the wrong thing Shawna offers a very simple prayer that you can share with anyone, anywhere.

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Have you ever felt unsure of yourself when someone else was being complimented? Over the weekend Shawna was in a conversation with a friend who was sharing how good someone else is at what Shawna does and it stirred up some insecurities. What do we do with that?

Perry admits, “There are times I don’t feel God’s presence. There are times I doubt that the Jesus story is true. When that happens I go to the historical evidence for the resurrection.”

Shawna was so tired on Monday. Was she yawning? Sleepy? Nope, she was grumpy! She was honest with God about how agitated she was and He helped her to hold her tongue and not sin against Him. Psalm 120:1

What do poisonous snakes biting God’s rebellious people in the desert and a replica of a poisonous snake attached to a pole have to do with Jesus and us. Everything!

When life feels overwhelming and we are unable to move forward, how do we get unstuck? Shawna suggests fixing our eyes on God and worshiping Him.

Imagine yourself in the crowd as Jesus is being crucified, who would you be in that crowd? Jesus mother? The soldier who pierced Jesus’ side? The thief who cursed Jesus? Whoever we are in that crowd, Jesus’ grace reaches out to us.

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When Artificial Intelligence first came on the scene there was a lot of skepticism, doom, and gloom. And for many there still is. Is there a place for AI in ministry?

That’s a great question for Steele Billings, head of AI at Gloo. Gloo is the Church’s place to build a more connected ministry.

We ask Steele: Is it unethical to use AI? Is it deceitful? Wrong?

Steele shares the benefits of using AI as a sparring tool to sharpen our own thinking and enhance our engagement with people. He also shares the need for the our own God -given conviction around the appropriate use of AI.

He shares his greatest concern regarding AI: That it would replace relationships. Conversely, one of the great things about AI is how it connects us to one another.

AI is here and it’s not going anywhere. So, how can we use it to advance the Kingdom of God?

Perry shares, “Regarding the resurrection, I want to know I’m not believing in a fairy tale, that Christ really did rise in history.” So what is the evidence?

Last, If Christianity feels like a list of do’s and don’ts, it might be time to discover or remember your “Why?”

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Our buddy, Chris, a Perry and Shawna listener, reflects on his recent divorce, how painful it is, and has been, and why he wouldn’t steer his younger self away from falling in love with his ex-wife all over again.

Then, Shawna shares about a greater freedom she’s beginning to experience. The freedom of seeing this life as a place to learn, to make mistakes, and learn from them. A place where she doesn’t have to get everything perfectly right.

Was Abraham a monster for being willing to sacrifice his son? What God a monster for commanding him to do so? Some argue that. But that would be a grave misunderstanding. At the heart of God’s testing of Abraham is the revelation of the limitless love of God and the crux of what Good Friday is all about.

Remember when Mary poured that perfume on Jesus and he said it was in preparation for his burial? Have you ever thought of how that fragrance would have been the fragrance everyone would have smelled on Jesus way to the cross? When we pour ourselves out before the Lord it’s a beautiful fragrance he carries with him.

Jesus was fully man and fully God. In a devotional by Tara Leigh Cobble she points out that in the garden of Gethsemane Jesus’ humanity surrenders to His divinity just like our humanity must surrender to His divinity.

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Do you ever wish you could go back in time? Back to before you made that mistake, or got that call that changed everything? There’s no way back. But you’re not hopeless!

Brennen Manning says, “Everything that has happened to me had to have happened to me to make me who I am”. All we can do is offer who we are now as we move forward into the future.

“Wasn’t holding you up. So there’s nothing I can do to let you down.” That’s from “Jireh”. Perry shares, “When I was 10, with my greatest failures ahead in life, the love of God was poured into my heart. It’s one of the greatest proofs to me that my salvation doesn’t depend on my hard work.”

“Why did he do it?” Shawna literally said this aloud as she was reading in the Bible about Judas betraying Jesus. Perry and Shawna admit that’s a question they often ask of themselves as they honestly share our propensity to sin.

Perry shares, “The God of my imagination was the God who loved me because I thought I deserved it.” It’s a conversation about how God strips away our false views of who he is so that we can know the real God who passionately loves undeserving sinners.

It was 4:45 am. Time to leave for work. And Shawna could not find her keys! After checking the obvious spots: key hook near the door, countertop by the Nespresso machine, coat pockets, she asked the Lord, “Where are they?” Her very next thought? “Check your trunk.” God cares about the little things and, even more beautiful, He speaks to His kids!

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When Craig Cooper and Walker Hayes met, Walker was an alcoholic atheist reeling from the backlash of a failed music career and Craig was a discouraged church planter. Their unlikely friendship and some of life’s hardest hits led Walker to share with his good buddy, “Craig, I believe it. All of it.” He gave his life to Jesus.

The two turned their story into the book Glad You’re Here. If Glad You’re Hereis the hands and feet of Jesus, Craig’s new devotional, Overflowing Mercies is the heart.

In this NOISY world, God’s heart beats hard with love and mercy. But how can God share His heart with us when He doesn’t have our attention? Overflowing Mercies is a doorway to giving God our attention so he can show us His heart.

Also, in this episode Shawna reflects on how, during Holy Week, the people there turned so quickly from shouting “Hosanna!” to shouting “Crucify Him!” From laying down their cloaks to stripping Jesus of his. How could they be so fickle?

And last Perry’s Monday was like a gloomy day in November but the next day was completely, unexpectedly like a sunshiny day in July. It has left him wondering “God how do you do that!”

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Are you feeling overwhelmed as anxiety and discouragement pound at the door of your heart? Do you long to find solace and safety?

Author Tessa Afshar has been there. Dipping into the lessons she learned from battling with anxiety in her own life, she takes us on a journey that helps to cultivate a rested soul, from her newest book The Rested Soul.

Then, Shawna shares about an Easter gift she got from the Lord a couple of years ago. He showed her that what she turned to for security was her tomb and he called her out of the grave.

Perry shares what his tomb has been and how the Lord keeps on rescuing him from death. This Easter, what grave is God calling you to step out of?

Last, Perry’s been feeling overwhelmed, been feeling the slog of life. But just a few days ago his uncle Bud showed up in a dream of his to encourage him, and to encourage you!

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If you’ve ever been wronged, then you’ve been challenged to be like Jesus. In Philippians 2:5-8 we are clearly commanded to forgive like Jesus & even to have the same mindset as Jesus in our relationships with one another.

Perry shares, “Last Saturday was a slog, feeling overwhelmed with my ‘to do’ list, feeling discouraged, it was like a death. And then Sunday I experienced resurrection as God rescued me from my self-absorption.”

During worship on Palm Sunday Shawna saw an image in her mind of the resurrection. But this time it was from a completely different perspective than any other she’d envisioned before. She shares what she saw and Jesus’ invitation to walk away from the way of death to enter the way of life with Jesus.

Perry shares about his suffering friend who feels like he’s fatalistically determined to be kept out of God’s family. And shares, “I think there’s some of that in me, maybe in you.” It’s a conversation about saving faith, and the assurance that were in the family to stay!

Shawna just finished reading the Torah and she is blown away at understanding afresh how this life, from birth to death, is our journey through the wilderness. And the deep assurance that, as followers of Jesus, we will enter the promised land.

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You are going to love this conversation with We Are Messengers front man, Darren Mulligan. Every word out of his mouth is tweetable!

Here are just a few of the things he says in this conversation:

“I’m a messy, broken, sinful man who depends on the mercy of God every day.”

“I came to Jesus out of fear but I stayed with him out of love.”

“The Bible is a love letter from heaven written in the blood of a mighty King who hung naked on a tree so that I, Barabbas, could go free.”

“The local church is the hope of the world.”

And about the special guests on tour with him, Ben Fuller and Jonathan Traylor, he says, “These men on stage aren’t holy and perfect but they are wholly in love with a God who is wholly perfect and wholly wonderful.”

Catch We Are Messengers, Darren Mulligan, along with Ben Fuller & Jonathan Traylor on their Where The Joy Is Tour.

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There are at least 5 million children of sex workers in India. These kids grow up surrounded by drugs and prostitution because their moms are trapped in the sex trade.

David Harms has given himself to the ministry of India Partners. For over 35 years India Partners has been rescuing victims of human sex trafficking, bringing them into the light of Jesus.

Back in January Shawna went to India with a team from Moody Radio to see with her own eyes what Jesus is doing through India Partners. The faces of the women and children she met have been imprinted on her heart.

She saw, not masses, but people. Mothers. Daughters. People who Jesus sees, knows and loves, trapped in darkness.

Rescue a child from the red-light districts and relocate them to a safe home in a nice neighborhood, well outside the red-light areas.

They will receive nutritious meals, clothing, medical care, counseling, full-time schooling and experience the love of Jesus!

Your gift of $62 provides about a week of safety, rescue, and care. Click on Indiapartners.org/moody to rescue a child today!

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One moment Perry didn’t know he was a Christian, didn’t believe he was in God’s forever family, and the next moment he knew! What happened in between was God speaking, “Let there be light!” to his heart.

Then Daniel a Perry and Shawna listener shares his darkness to light story, he had no money, was lost in Chicago, was at the end of himself. And Kate shares hers, she was into Wicca, addicted to drugs, suicidal.

Next, have you ever felt afraid? Of course you have! The Bible has a remedy for, not if, but when we feel afraid. Then Perry shares, “I’m grateful for my biggest failures.” It’s the story of Perry, his friend Matt, and a song.

Last, Shawna didn’t enjoy being a student but she loves to learn! She shares how her natural curiousity has led her to study the Bible and fall more in love with God.

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Author, Speaker and Coach, Becky Beresford, had been believing the lies we’ve all believed. Lies that closely resemble the truth but leave out the most important part of it.

In She Believed HE Could, So She Did, Becky invites us to journey toward freedom as she dismantles the most common lies promoted by our culture. And she counters the misconceptions with gospel-rooted truth: Believe in Yourself God, Speak Your the Truth, Follow Your Heart King, You Be You His.

Then, Shawna waited 6 years for her son’s breakthrough healing. And Perry has been waiting decades for a breakthrough that has not yet come. So he keeps on asking and keeps on trusting.

Does the word “accountability” make you cringe? It doesn’t have to. God calls us to spur one another on to love and good deeds. Living that out has way more to do with encouragement than judgement. It could be fun!

Perry’s friends Jim and Shirley went to the coffee shop, sat down in 2 of 3 soft chairs and waited for someone to sit in the 3rd. Someone they hoped would be open to the gospel. What they didn’t expect was that person to mock them!

Last, when we’re going through it, it’s really tempting to believe that it’s never going to get better. Shawna shares how there were times in her recovery from her foot surgery when she fell into despair, wondering if healing would come and what encouraged her at that time.

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Maybe you’re better at hiding your emotions than Shawna is. But even if you are, we leak. What’s weighing on our hearts finds its way into our relationships, our work, our days. Jesus not only knows what we’re going through, He is the way through it.

The Bible’s not a book of rules, or of heroes to emulate. It’s the story of a Young Prince who crosses all worlds to come and save us. It’s a story that shouts: “God’s not mad at you!” and how that’s even possible when he has every reason to be mad at us.

Our best intentions unfortunately don’t always lead to the best outcomes. Shawna opens up about the realities of all that distracts us from the truth that we’re loved more than we can possibly imagine. To live loved we need to be reminded as often as possible of who and whose we are.

If you’re feeling worn out, weak, burned out, poured out, if you feel like you’ve got nothing left to give, Perry can relate. And he points us to one of the Bible’s Mount Everest promises of God to give us strength.

When we sin we feel the weight of hurting God’s heart, and often the shame of it tells us that we did is who we are. What if, instead, that pain led us to gratitude for what God has done for us and reminded us that we’re not defined by our own mistakes but by what Jesus did for us on the cross?

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“Why do Mark & Luke say Jesus healed a man with demons in the Gadarenes, but Matthew says that He healed TWO men with demons there?"

Great question!

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at Cornerstone seminary for nearly 15 years. In this episode he takes on your bible questions.

He was also asked: “Is Mark 16:9-20 part of Bible or added by scribes that thought it needed to be added?”

“Why did the people spread their garments on the road in front of Jesus riding the donkey into Jerusalem? Something cultural?”

And last, “Should Christians practice resting on the Sabbath?”

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A fireman was being interviewed for his heroic work in rushing into a building engulfed in flames to rescue a small girl. The interviewer asked him how he remains fearless. He clarified that he’s always afraid but the joy of the rescue keeps him coming back.

Evangelism can be hard, long, and risky but as God’s beloved children the Father commands us to tell his estranged kids that He’s a good dad and will welcome them with open arms. We get to take them by the hand and bring them home. That’s what evangelism is. And it’s worth it!

Aaron Bolduc of Ambassadors For Christ International challenges us to live into the great commission. He coaches us up to have the right perspective, heart, and strategy for sharing the good news.

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Every one of us will face it. Nobody wants to talk about it. Death.

She was in 7th grade when her mom invited her to climb up on her bed and she told her that she had a lump on breast. It was cancer.

In her book We Shall All Be Changed, Journalist and author, Whitney K. Pipkin, opens up about how her mom’s diagnosis impacted their relationship, what it was like to be her mother’s caregiver, how we all grieve differently, and what her mother dying taught her about living.

This book is for those who are caring for the sick and dying and for those who have already walked that journey.

Next, Shawna, Scott, and Ben talk about how we all need each other. If you think you can be a Christian and live in isolation you didn’t get that idea from the Bible. We also get honest about the need for the Church (aka you and me) to get better at forgivingly restoring other believers who’ve made a mistake.

Lastly, we discuss how to establish holy habits in our lives, starting with gaining wisdom from Proverbs.

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“I always had an interest in flying” said Program Manager with Moody Aviation’s Jim Conrad.

As a young man his dream was to build and fly his own space plane until he was challenged with this question, “Jim, do you want to invest in eternal things or build your own kingdom?” Those words are what eventually led Jim and his wife Susanne to apply at Moody Aviation.

Jim also shares the story of Nard, a boy from the Philippines who was given the opportunity to come to the states and study at Moody aviation. He became a missionary pilot and had the privilege of delivering the Bible to his own people in their heart language. Hear how his sister responded in this episode.

Also, why is it so intimidating to invite your friends to church? Ben opens up about his confidence in challenging others to invite their friends to church and his own hesitation when it came to doing so himself. He shares the importance of prayer in the process.

Lastly, Shawna wonders why God sends mere people when He could send angels and the Holy Spirit. She reminds us that we are God’s plan A to reach a lost world.

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Maybe you think this about yourself, “I’m just so pathetic because of my failures.” Or “God could never forgive me,” or “God knows everything about me, I must look so ugly to him.” Perry admits, “I can so easily fall into these poisonous thoughts.”

Shawna is so grateful for the people in her life that show her who Jesus is. Like her Dad who showed her our Heavenly Father’s love. Who showed you who Jesus is?

If you’re riding the wave of victory, good for you! But that fine moment does not define you. If you’re feeling the pain of regret because you blew it, we’re so sorry. we’ve been there. But that doesn’t define you either. You are special because you are loved by God!

Some define faith as, “Trusting God when life makes no sense.” Others say faith is about “signs, wonders and miracles.” We tend to gravitate to either/or in our journey with Jesus. But in the case of faith, it’s both/and.

God’s ways don’t always make sense to us but I do trust the He knows what’s best. And He chooses to use people, you and me, to tell the world about Jesus. If that’s God’s plan it must be good!

When you run into a crisis in life it can be all you see. The only way to praise God through it is to shift your focus from the crisis to the King. When we’re looking at and to Him we can’t help but praise Him.

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“I had nowhere to turn. EFRAT saved my baby’s life. And transformed mine.” That is the testimony of just one of the over 85,200 Israeli babies that have been saved through EFRAT.

EFRAT supports mothers-to-be in Israel with financial assistance and emotional support so they can give birth and raise their babies with dignity, joy and peace of mind.

Nir Salomon, Executive Director of EFRAT, along with Ruth who runs their center in Jerusalem, join us from Jerusalem to share stories of lives saved through EFRAT and the impact those lives are having on the world today.

It is estimated that of the nearly 170,000 active duty and 360,000 reservist Israel Defense Forces soldiers currently serving in the Israeli war, as many as 10,000 of them may have been babies saved from abortion 20 or more years ago thanks to EFRAT.

Also in this episode, many of us aren’t getting the sleep we need…and that’s important because a lack of sleep can be detrimental to our health. While our phones or tablets can be to blame in some cases, for others it’s the anxiety they carry with them. How do we keep the burdens of the day from getting the rest we need? We’ve got answers!

Lastly, if you’ve not seen The Chosen, a T.V. series on the life of Jesus, I highly recommend it. Jonathan Roumie, who plays Jesus in a conversation with Dallas Jenkins, director of The Chosen, talks about the weigh of playing Jesus and how it has impacted his life both on and off screen. Can you imagine? Representing Jesus in every aspect of your life? You should.

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Kindness has fallen on hard times. And it begins to wear on a soul.

Nate Pickowicz, Pastor and author of The Kindness of God: Beholding His Goodness in a Cruel World, says “When we lift our eyes to heaven and consider God’s purposes through the lens of Scripture, we quickly see the many-splendored ways that God demonstrates His kindness to us.”

Also in the podcast, Perry is working through some scary news that just hit him this week. He’s not sure where it’s going to land. So he’s trying to be intentional about rooting himself in God’s promises.

If you woke up tomorrow and your life was perfect what would be different? How you answer that question might reveal an idol in your life.

Then, when Shawna vulnerably shared with a friend that she was feeling overwhelmed, her friend’s response made her feel even more alone. She took it to the Lord in prayer and he responded with the most beautiful truth and it was exactly what her heart needed.

Perry shares, “There are times when painful emotions threaten to sweep me away. And what I’ve learned to do when that happens is not to stuff them andnot to trust them.”

Then, when Shawna vulnerably shared with a friend that she was feeling overwhelmed, her friend’s response made her feel even more alone. She took it to the Lord in prayer and he responded with the most beautiful truth and it was exactly what her heart needed.

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Aaron and his buddy were at a restaurant and asked the waitress, “Is there something we can pray for you about?” And she started to cry. Everybody is going through something. Be kind to everyone you meet.

Then, if you want to be a mature follower of Jesus, don’t run from suffering. When Perry thinks of a person who’s walked this out, he thinks of his son, Taylor.

Next, when you feel overwhelmed do you ever think you’re too much for God? That maybe your need is greater than his ability to provide? Moses felt that way too. God responded to Moses’ feeling of being overwhelmed, with a question.

To forgive the person who’s wounded you so deeply is so hard. Brandon Heath’s song, “I’m Not Who I Was,” is all about his journey to forgive his stepmom. It’s a conversation about the freedom and the painful cost of forgiving.

Then, Shawna shares a childhood memory of fear that she was going to get beat up. But somebody had her back. Knowing who’s behind us gives us holy swagger in life.

If you’re in a season of suffering you may be tempted to think, “God must be punishing me.” But what’s really going on is completely the opposite of that!

Last, do you ever have family drama? How do you handle that in a way that honors God? Moses had some family drama and man, the way he handled it challenges us to be more like Moses and more like Jesus too.

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Do you ever wonder where the thoughts in your head come from? Ever feel like, “That’s not me.” Maybe it isn’t you. The Bible tells us to take every thought captive and make it obedient to Christ.

Then, prayer is a two-way street. God invites us to come to Him with our requests. And God also speaks to us in prayer. Are you listening? More importantly, are you obeying?

Sarah had crossed an ocean for just this moment, to share Jesus with Muslim women. Sitting across the table from Sarah in the café was Maya a Muslim woman who had never heard about Jesus. And what God did next is what he’s preparing you to do!

Last, when Shawna was walking the streets of the red-light district in South Asia she was tempted to feel afraid of the darkness. Instead, she saw the impact of the light shining through her to others. God’s light shines through you where you walk today!

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He had spent a couple of hours walking the beach, enjoying God’s company, when he felt the need to head back to the condo. He felt the need to be “productive”. That’s when the Father told him, “No time with me is wasted.”

Dan Seaborn, is the founder of Winning at Home, a ministry providing speaking events, counseling, and life-giving resources to help families and marriages not only survive, but thrive.

In this episode Dan shares with Perry and Shawna on several topics: Coming to terms with not being a perfect dad, spending time with the Father throughout your day, our ability to be deceived by culture.

Also, our need to be in God’s Word to discern false teaching, the value of intergenerational relationships, and that the deeper we go with Jesus the more joyful we become.

Always a joy to have Dan Seaborn on the Perry and Shawna podcast. Share this with a friend and please subscribe!

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“My husband and I were baptized when we were children. We both strayed from God in our teen/young adult years and got married during the end of that season. My question is should we get re-baptized as a married couple or is there no need?”

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at Cornerstone Seminaryfor nearly 15 years.

In this episode Perry and Shawna listeners ask Jeremy their bible questions, like the one above. Here are the other questions Dr. Grinnell takes on today:

When did Jesus become perfect? Was he sinless from conception or did he have to reach the point of being sinlessly pure?

Do right-now world events point to Jesus coming back within months or a couple years?

Why does the Catholic Bible and Ethiopian Bible have more books than the traditional 66 in the vast majority of translations? And why is the Ethiopian Bible rarely seen or used in the west?

In Jesus’ day the phrase “Abraham's bosom” was where believers went when they died. Was this the same place as heaven where believers go now? In short, where did believers go before Christ came?

Next, was Lazarus raised from the dead more than once? Then, in Genesis 10 the writer refers to Noah's descendants as having different languages. But it wasn’t until Genesis 11 that God confused the languages. Is this a mistake of biblical proportions?

Last, Leviticus 27 indicates that God assigned a monetary value to humans. Men were worth most, then women, then children. Doesn’t this show that God discriminates??

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The Israelite’s didn’t know where they were going or how long it would take them to get there. What they did know is that God was with them. When you are in your own wilderness season, keep your eyes on Jesus and follow Him.

Perry shares, “This may seem morbid or weird but I think about my dying breath at least once a week. But rather than something I dread, it motivates me to make every breath count!”

Next, have you ever been accused of being a little too bright of a light? You are here to shine. SHINE, friend!

When Perry’s daughter Kali was 16 she started praying a really risky prayer, “Lord show me what it looks like to live like I have nothing to lose.” The answer to that prayer was dramatic.

You have been chosen by God to tell others what God has done for you. Be ready to speak out for Him today.

Last, trying to pay off your sins is like using a teaspoon to empty the ocean. If that’s what you’re doing, do you really want to keep doing that?

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Perry wonders, “What was the point of the flood? God cleansed the world of all evil, Noah and his family came out of the ark, but the world just fell back into even greater evil!”

Then, Shawna got a call and immediately knew her day was about to take a radical turn. Those moments can be unsettling. But our peace isn’t determined by things going the way we’d planned but in trusting in the God who’s planned our days.

Perry shares, “There were 2 times in my life that I believed I’d be swallowed up by the darkness—as a teenager chained to my sins, and then in a deep depression when I felt cut off from God.”

Next, Shawna was overlooked in the waiting room. Her initial “annoyance” at the inconvenience revealed her desire to be seen. We long to be seen, known and loved. That need isn’t met in anything but the God who put the need there, and longs to meet it.

Last, God sent Aaron to Moses to help accomplish his God-given assignment to set Israel free. God has really beautiful plans for your life too. And you don’t have to go it alone.

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Dr. Kathy Koch was at Asbury last week (where the outpouring of the Spirit happened a year ago) and she noticed some life-giving things that are happening there that we can do for our children.

Dr. Kathy is the founder of Celebrate Kids. She has influenced thousands of parents, teachers, and children in thirty countries through keynote messages, seminars, chapels, and more.

Dr. Kathy takes on parenting questions from teenagers and dating to difficult and damaged relationships with our adult kids.

Then, our culture screams, “This is what you need to do and be to be a somebody.” And unless the gospel is deeply rooted in you and me, we will be swallowed by these idols of our age.

Last, like Noah, God has called you to build an ark to save the world. It’s a conversation about the dreams God puts in us to bless and save the world. He has put us in the world for the sake of the world.

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When we receive what Jesus won for us on the cross, He becomes the Lord of our lives, not just an advisor. What He says, we are to do.

But how do we know what it is He wants us to do? And is there a difference between calling, vision, and purpose? Does God give us temporary assignments?

Bible teacher, podcast host and author Rachel G. Scott, encourages us to pray, listen and obey God in her new book Taking the 5 Leaps: Experiencing God’s Faithfulness As You Respond to His Call.

What is a “leaping lifestyle”? And what if you feel like you missed your window? Rachel speaks to that as well in our conversation today. You’re going to love it. And her!

Next, Shawna talks about what she gave up for Lent and it’s not what you think it is.

Lastly, Does God want you to be happy? What does the Bible say?

We’re glad you’re here. Enjoy the conversation. And hit “Subscribe” to get future episodes.

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We are living in a time of greater isolation, disunity, and loneliness.

In Dearly Beloved: How God’s Love for His Church Deepens Our Love for Each Other we learn how we are loved, how to love God, and how to love one another.

Author Vermon Pierre joins us to share how the way God love’s us shows us how to love one another.

Shawna shares how happy it makes her momma’s heart when her kids are enjoying one another and loving each other. This is how God feels when His kids are doing the same.

Ben was given a choice a few weeks ago, give someone grace or lash out in anger against them. What he did is something you might want to do next time you're in a similar situation.

Shawna’s heard we can measure our maturity in Christ by measuring the distance between hearing God’s voice and our obedience. She shares about a time when Simon Peter’s response to Jesus is the way she wants to respond to Him every time.

Lastly, do you ever feel like your happiness is just outside of your reach? Shawna shares how most of her life she’s had an “if only” dangling in front of her. Is there a solution? Listen to the end of this episode to learn how to find true contentment.

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This week Shawna faced the palpable, visible power of darkness and saw that darkness flee from the light of Jesus!

Then, Shawna was off, and she couldn’t quite put a finger on it. Her confidence was shaken. When she asked the Lord what was happening he revealed why she felt the way she did and ministered to her unsettled heart.

Perry shares, “If God gave you 1000 years to live and you spent those years in devout prayer, you still couldn’t earn God’s love. By why would we do that when Jesus has brought the free gift of God’s love to us??”

Next, the enemy would love to have you believe that you are alone. But it’s a lie. You are a part of a beautiful people, a temple, and Jesus Christ is the cornerstone.

God called Noah to build a boat to save the world. What is the boat he’s calling you to build, that will bring blessing to your world? If you haven’t started building, start!

Then, it’s the great mystery. God chooses us before the creation of the world and at the same time gives everyone the chance to choose. It’s a conversation of God’s choosing and ours. It’s a mystery that causes us to bow down in worship.

Next, Perry admits, “Satan dogs me and accuses me of my sins all the time. But I’ve learned what to do every time he accuses me!”

Shawna’s sister was on town and coerced to come on the air and share a little bit of her life and what it’s like to be Shawna’s sister. So fun!

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The war in Israel has meant families are separated as the military reserves have been called to the front lines – sons and daughters, fathers and mothers, brothers and sisters. Some separated by death itself.

It has meant fear and destruction for Israelis and Palestinians. It has also caused many to ask spiritual questions. Questions like, “Where was God on October 7?”

One for Israel stands ready to meet the needs and answer the questions. Dr. Erez Soref, President of One For Israel, joins us from Israel to share what God has been doing in Israel since the war began with Hamas.

Also, in this episode we talk about the pushback the He Gets Us campaign is getting from their Superbowl commercial “Foot Washing.”

Perry shares, “If you could look at the landscape of my life, it would be like looking at a landfill, with raw sewage and roaches and rotting garbage. That’s who I am apart from Jesus.”

Last, Leviticus 3:16 says, “All the fat is the Lord’s.” Would you wear a t-shirt that says that to provoke spiritual conversations? Share the podcast if you’re encouraged by it!

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Your first love for Jesus, that overwhelming reality of God’s love for you, of Jesus stretching out his arms to die for you. That there’s no greater treasure in life than the Lord Jesus. And Perry admits, “Last year I lost my first love.”

Then, what if we led with love? What if my first reaction was not to publicly call out somebody’s sin, but instead to cover over it? Not to excuse it, but also not to shame the sinner. Like Jesus has covered over our sin.

Next, why do people get ashes on their heads on the first day of Lent, Ash Wednesday? And why do people fast or give stuff up for Lent? What’s that all about?

It’s about remembering our need for Jesus and putting Him first in the 40 days leading up to Easter. It’s a conversation about how to be intentional in our relationship with God during Lent.

Then, you didn’t find God, he found you! He chose us before creation to be in his family. And at the same time he invites every single person on the planet to be in his family. So what is it? God chooses or we choose? “Yes!” It’s a conversation about a huge mystery!

Next, a few days ago a 19-year-old man told Shawna that he can’t wait to preach the Word. Shawna had the opportunity to pray over him and ask God to fan the flame of his passion for the Word. Perry and Shawna talk about calling out the God-given gifts in others, especially Gen Z-ers. Speak life and hope into their future!

Valentine’s Day can create anxiety. If you’re in a relationship you have the stress of figuring out just the right gift to give. If you’re not in a relationship, Valentine’s Day can make you feel you’re the only one on earth who’s single. Originally, Valentine’s Day was to remind us of our love for God. Let’s bring that back. You’re deeply, perfectly loved!

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As the church we are united by our mission to make Jesus known. During the Super bowl He Gets Us had a commercial that highlighted washing one another’s feet. Some believers have had a negative reaction to them. But hundreds of millions of people saw that Jesus washed people’s feet. Isn’t that a win for the Church?

Perry shares, “The gospel frees me up to fully repent and own my sin because I know the Lord in his great love will never turn me away.” Perry and Shawna have a conversation about the liberating power of daily repentance.

“All for one and one for all!” is the Three Musketeers motto. They knew they were a part of something bigger than themselves and their shared purpose took precedence over personal gain. We see this kind of unity in the early church in Acts 2 and 4. Does it reflect the church today? If not, we have some work to do because we are the church.

Last, Perry shares, “When Jesus came to me at my worst when I was 18, it wasn’t first to change me. He came first to show me his unconditional love and that’s what changed me!”

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Our culture has been sending a heavy message: “Find a healthy work/life balance!” You could say there’s been an emphasis on every area of life that is not work.

Has the pendulum swung so far that we are devaluing the role of work in our lives? If so, how is that impacting our approach to work? What does the Bible have to say about work?

David L. Bahnsen, founder and chief investment officer of the Bahnsen Group and author of his new book, Full-Time: Work and the Meaning of Life says “It’s time to get back to the Garden of Eden and understand what God created us to do.”

Perry shares, “On a run in East Nashville last week and I heard a rooster crow. It made me think of Peter’s denials of Jesus and of my own.”

In Acts we see the early church was of one heart and mind and shared generously with one another. You might think the Church is failing in this today. Shawna reminds us that if the Church is failing, then we are failing, because we are the Church!

Last, Perry shares about his brother who’s been suffering for 40 years and isn’t getting better. It can be really discouraging but he shares how he’s able to remain hopeful even though things are not as they should be.

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Most of us will experience an event in our lives that could be considered traumatic. Trauma is an invisible force that shapes nearly all of our lives – including the way we live, the way we love, and the way we make sense of the world.

Is there a pathway to healing from family trauma and addiction? There is. And Paula is walking it.

Paula Jauch is the founder and executive director of the non-profit organization, Walking Into freedom. She is a trauma survivor, award-winning author, speaker, and host of the Pretty Podcast. She has a heart and passion to help those who have been affected by trauma and addiction.

In this episode we talk with Paula about family trauma & addiction, forgiveness, setting healthy boundaries, breaking free from generational sin, God’s heart for our families and how when we heal we can help others heal as well.

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Our kids are growing up in a confusing world with an abundance of messages that are contrary to Gods’ word.

Want to help them navigate it, choose what is right, and receive God’s grace when they don’t live it out perfectly? That’s what When Wrong Seems Right is all about.

Author Adam Griffin is also a pastor and a podcast host. He joins us to talk about creating a pathway for young people to learn the wisdom of God through a study on the Proverbs, When Wrong Seems Right.

Also, in this episode, Shawna talks about how to battle the lies that the hardships of our life are keeping us from fulfilling God’s purpose for us and that the enemy is winning. Replacing those lies with the truth that God uses the hardships in our lives to shape us and God wins allows us to live according to the Truth!

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Our emotional health impacts us personally, our relationships with one another and our relationship with God. Do you have unhealthy habits that hinder emotional health? What habits can we start today that will have a positive impact moving forward?

We brought all these questions to the expert. Emilie DeYoung is the clinical director of Counseling Services at Winning at Home. She holds a PhD in psychology with an emphasis on child and adolescent counseling and a master’s degree in social work.

Paying attention to what we’re paying attention to, mindfulness, mood logs, self-care, & vulnerability are just a few of the tools Emilie gave us today to help us to live emotionally healthy lives and to have healthy relationships with God and others.

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Have you ever felt so exhausted that you come to the end of yourself? Yeah, me to. Elijah too. What God did for Elijah might be exactly what you (and I) need too.

If it looks like a duck, if it walks like a duck, if it quacks like a duck, then it must be a duck, right? Maybe, that’s what Ben wrestles with today with his love for sports.

Everyone of us knows someone who’s going through something right now. As we think of them we need to be reminded that our prayers are powerful. We’re praying to the One who can do the impossible. Let’s speak the name of Jesus over those we love.

Then Shawna shares that the Jesus who saved her from my sins keeps on saving her. From lies she believed. From herself. He’s the God of rescue!

Shawna knows the pang of regret. And at times she’s tempted to run from the memories, from regret. Just like the prodigal son when we change direction and run to God we find He is running towards us, to embrace us, forgive us, and even celebrate us.

Lastly, When we focus on our circumstances they can overwhelm us. When we focus on God we’re reminded of who He is and what He can do. Worship Him.

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Jesus is both fully God and fully man. What does that mean for you and me? What are the implications of the death and resurrection of Jesus Christ for us in our day to day lives? Jesus lived surrendered to the Father and led by the Spirit. How do we live like Jesus?

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell joins us today for a conversation on the incarnation of Jesus. Jeremy earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at a local seminary for nearly 15 years. He’s the author of Bellowing of Cain.

As we nurture our relationship with God through the gift of His Spirit in us we will reveal the Kingdom of God and the King Himself to those around us. May that be our reality!

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“…After a lifetime of knowing Jesus, only recently have I encountered the authentic Jesus.” Stan Jantz, CEO of Come and See, testifies of the impact The Chosen has had on his own life. He was so impacted that he leads Come and See on their mission to share the authentic Jesus through The Chosen with 95% of the world’s population!

Perry shares, “I want to be done trying to fix the ugly inside of me through achievements, applause, winning the approval of teachers, bosses, coaches. Cause it doesn’t work!”

Then, following Jesus is a constant dethroning of self. Like Job, we need to be reminded every day, all day, that God is God and we are not. Shawna shares simple ways to keep that truth before us each and every day.

Perry shares, “God doesn’t unconditionally promise to protect us from being really hurt in this fallen world. But he does promise to always be with us and to forever save us from the judgment we deserve for our sins.” And that’s amazing!

Last, as you may know, Shawna grew up in SoCal. You may not know her dad worked for Warner Bros. On one visit to Warner Bros. Studios to meet her dad at the commissary for lunch Shawna unexpectedly was reminded who her dad was.

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There was a moment in Shawna’s life when she felt so seen, known, and loved that she didn’t want that moment to ever become a memory. She shares why it impacted her so deeply and how we can live in the right now reality of God’s perfect love.

God’s says that believers “go from strength to strength” as we make our way to our forever home. But maybe you feel like you’re going from weakness to weakness on your journey. If so, Perry can relate! And he’s got encouragement for you.

Then, you can know about God and not really know Him. Who do you know who really knows God? What if you asked them what they do to nurture a personal relationship with God so you can really know Him too?

Next, Clayton, a Perry and Shawna listener stopped by the studio to meet them and we asked him to hop on mic to share the moment he decided to go all in with God!

Last, Perry shares, “It’s so easy for me to love what the world values— applause, acclaim, likes, follows; but Jesus is breaking me free.”

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How do we cultivate a family culture that’s vibrant and encouraging – a refuge amidst life’s storms? Homeschool mom and counselor, Melissa Hannigan, shares personal stories from her family life that show how to nurture our child’s God-given traits.

She also shares the heartache of losing her son Joey, and offers encouragement for anyone who has lost a child. Find out more in her book Inconvenient Parenting: Activate Your Child’s God Given Traits.

Then, God has planted in you dreams, talents, and passions that are part of who you are and who you’re to become. But maybe your dream has died or you think, “that ship has sailed.” Not true! God calls you to fan into flame the gift that is in you.

Shawna was elated when she heard that she was going to become a grandma. But that’s not all she felt. With her children living in Australia she had to reconcile her expectations of what being a grandma would look like versus the reality of having her grandbaby live over 9,000 miles away.

Last, Stephen Hawking, the brilliant physicist’s ultimate hope for humanity was that we find a way to colonize planets so that humans don’t end up destroying each other in a survival of the fittest world. It’s a conversation about the bankruptcy of the modern worldview and the meaning, purpose, and identity we find in the Christian worldview.

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If you listen to Perry and Shawna Mornings on the regular you’ve noticed that Shawna’s been gone for a while. Well, she’s back. And she’s excited to share with you about her adventure in South Asia.

Then, one of the reasons Christians are deconstructing and walking away from the faith is because a leader they respected ended up being a big-time hypocrite. If you or someone you know is considering walking away because of this, Perry gives the reason not to.

Shawna has been so impacted by her recent travels that she finds herself wondering if what she has considered “comforts” are actually keeping her in bondage. She’s processing it with the Lord so she can live free.

Last year Perry was wrestling with making music an idol, he didn’t know if he’d ever be able to record again because he’s so prone to make it about himself. But he shares how the Lord has reset his heart for His glory, not his own.

On her trip Shawna had the opportunity to spend time with teenage girls who have been rescued from horrible circumstances and are growing in their relationship with God. Shawna shares the unique way that she was able to be close to them and what she prayed over them.

Shawna shares the core lie that has tried to destroy her life: “This world would be a better off without you.” But she’s finding freedom in knowing God sees her, loves her, and that she does belong in this world, to bless the world. God sees you!

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Craig Cooper’s a gifted story-teller, one of the founding pastors of Redeeming Grace Church in Franklin, TN and co-author of Glad You’re Here, Two Unlikely Friends Breaking Bread and Fences.

Glad You’re Here is the story of Craig’s friendship with Grammy nominated country music artist Walker Hayes, who was an atheist when they first met. But Craig’s friendship with Walker created an on ramp for Walker to jump into the ocean of God’s grace!

First, in a fit of rage Craig tried to run over his brother with his pick-up truck. Then, why Walker became an atheist. Next, Walker came kicking and screaming to Craig’s church. Then, the moment Walker gave his life over to Jesus.

Next, Walker wrote a song about Craig! Then, Craig and Walker and their families have become so close, they’re next door neighbors, and they tore the fence down between their houses! Encourage somebody else by sharing this show!

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Sharing the gospel is scary and is awkward. But take a couple deep breaths, don’t freak out, and check out this conversation between Perry and Aaron Bolduc about how to lean into the awkward and the awesome of sharing Jesus.

Aaron Bolduc, serves with Ambassadors for Christ International. He’s really gifted at sharing the good news and he’s also really gifted at coaching us up to share Christ. First, what do you do if you’re not gifted at sharing your faith? Then, how in the world do get into conversations about Jesus?—Ask, admire, and admit.

Next, a non-negotiable in winsomely sharing Christ: Humility! Then, a challenge, and this isn’tmeant to guilt you, but here goes—are you ashamed of the gospel? (There’s grace here cause God still loves you!) Next, how do you share Jesus with someone who’s strongly opposed to him??

Then, what do you say to somebody who thinks they know Jesus, but they probably don’t? Next, Lucy, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener is getting ready for a cross-country trip to share the gospel and wonders how she can make the most of her missionary journey!

And last, how to prepare yourself to share the hope you have in Jesus! If you want coaching to share your faith, Aaron would love to have coffee with you or come to your church. Text 800.968.8930 and we’ll connect you with him!

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Abdu Murray grew up in a devout Muslim family in Detroit, MI. By the time he was a teenager, he was a strong follower and evangelist of Islam. While attending the University of Michigan Dave and Pete showed up at his apartment to share Jesus. Those were the two guys that motivated Abdu to read the bible to prove them wrong!

Apologist Abdu Murray holds a bachelor’s in psychology and a law degree from the University of Michigan. He’s the cofounder and president of Embrace the Truth, a ministry offering the truth of the gospel to Muslims.

So how does a devout follower of Islam who wants to knock the faith out of Christians become a Jesus follower? As Abdu says, “A funny thing happened on the way to the mosque.” Actually, not quite that simple: It was a 9 year investigation into the claims of Jesus and then one frightening leap in a moment of truth that changed him forever.

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Do you know what your worldview is? A worldview is like your mental roadmap for understanding life. It’s a set of beliefs and ideas that shape how you see the world, what you think is important, and how you make decisions. Your culture, religion and experiences help to create your unique worldview.

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell joins us to help us understand what a Christian worldview is, and how to live into it. Dr. Grinnell has his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary, he taught at Cornerstone Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI. He’s a bible teacher, a fantasy novelist, a stage and voice actor and has his own amazing story of redemption. Check it out at BellowingOfCain.com.

Dr. Grinnell helps us understand the central points of a Christian worldview; what is unique about a Christian worldview compared to opposing worldviews, such as Modernity and Post-Modernity. Dr. Grinnell also takes some questions from listeners like Chris, who asks “How do I translate this out of the academic conversation for my kids?”

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Life is, at its heart, is a love story that began and has always existed between the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit. Today we plunge into the deep water that God is one and has always existed in a community of love.

Helping us out is Dr. Jeremy Grinnell who has his PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary, he taught at Cornerstone Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI. He’s a bible teacher, a fantasy novelist, a stage actor, a voice actor and has his own amazing story of redemption. Check it out at BellowingOfCain.com.

First Jeremy shares why he’s so passionate about helping us understand the Trinity. Next, Chris, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener asks, “If God is Father, Son, and Holy Spirit, who do we pray to?” Then, why does the teaching of the Trinity even matter for my real life? Next, God has always been and will forever be others focused.

Then, analogies to help us understand the Trinity—the upside and downside of these analogies. Last, how The Chosen series has done a beautiful job of showing both the humanity and divinity of Jesus. If you’re encouraged by the podcast, please share and subscribe!

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Really? That’s Possible? Brant Hansen joins Perry to show us that it is possible! Brant’s the host of the award-winning radio show, The Brant Hansen Show and his newest book is Life is Hard, God is Good, Let’s Dance.

So first, to live at peace in a world gone made we need to let the words of Jesus recreate us, we need to be transformed by the renewing of our minds, we need to stop listening to ourselves and start talking to ourselves. Then, professing Christians are deconstructing their faith and walking away.

Brant and Perry share how the power and love of the person of Jesus and his kingdom keep them from being swept away. Next, Brant’s dad was a pastor, and also a complete hypocrite. He caused Brant and his brother to fear for their lives. And yet, it was actually Jesus’ words about hypocrites that brought Brant back around to Jesus.

Then in an age of Jesus superstars, hipster preachers and singers and their expensive homes it can be easy to get jaded and critical. But first we need to look at what’s in our own hearts and then be captivated by Jesus. Brant says, “I’m not giving up the beauty of Jesus just because of some hypocrisy in the church.”

Next, how Jesus healed a 17-year-old young woman with a hole in her face. And how seeing the goodness of God in such beautiful miracles reminds us that God is good and we can trust him. Last, Brant encourages us to outsource our worries to Jesus!

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Shawna just returned from Australia and the Aussie’s pace of life made her wonder, “Am I enjoying the journey?” She reflects on Jesus’ pace of life. He wasn’t in a hurry. He took time for the people he ran into even when there was an urgency about where he was going. Are you enjoying the journey?

And now it’s time for another edition of Sauna Stories With Perry. Not really, but God did set Perry up to share the good news with six teenagers in the sauna at MVP. The only thing Perry needed to do was somehow push past his fear.

Next, while in Australia Shawna got to be in church with her daughter and son in law. She shares what she learned from her son in law’s message about being honest with God about our feelings, about our desires, and trusting Him with our future.

Perry shares, “It’s really easy for me to fall into trying to impress you. To work hard gain your respect, applause, admiration. It’s so deeply ingrained that it even showed up in my dreams last night.”

Then, do you believe that God has a plan even when things aren’t going the way you want them to? Shawna and her husband had an unexpected 9-hour delay in their looooong journey back from Australia.

Because of the delay they met strangers who became friends as they spent an extra 9 hours in the airport overnight. What we call “delays” God calls “my plan.”

Next, a Muslim woman in India and a West Michigan man both saved from drowning by Jesus. 2 stories that show the core of God’s heart—Rescuing love.

And last, if you’re overwhelmed by an enemy. It doesn’t look like you’ll survive this one. Take courage from the ancient king Jehoshaphat.

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A New Year’s resolution won’t work. Try harder won’t work. Self-sufficiency definitely won’t work. Perry talks with Jesse Bradley about what will work. Jesse’s a former professional soccer player, the lead pastor of Grace Community Church in Auburn, WA, the host of The Bonfire Podcast and author of The Power of the Second Thought.

So how can we be transformed by Jesus this year? It’s not super complicated. (Whew)! It starts with reading God’s word, soaking in it. It’s through depending on the Holy Spirit. It’s by bringing out the best in each other. It’s in knowing your why. (Perry lost sight of his last year). It’s by becoming more dependent and less self-sufficient.

And as Jesus transforms our hearts this year it will flow out of us to a world that’s longing for God’s presence, but just doesn’t know it. (And it might look like something amazing that Jesse’s church is doing)! If you’re encouraged by Perry’s conversation with Jesse, please share.

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When God puts a dream in your heart, it’s not just for you and your family. It’s for the nations! God has blessed you to be a blessing to the world. Being a blessing to the world doesn’t happen overnight, it happens one step of faith at a time over months and years.

God put a dream in Dominic Carola’s heart as a teenager to become a filmmaker. Through the years he just kept going as far ahead as he could see. And today he’s the director of the Animated Story of Jesus that releases Christmas 2025. It’s a film that Jesus is going to use to bring millions into his family.

Dominic never knew his journey would put him in this position. He just put one foot in front of the other. And when you do that, God will make your life a blessing to the world. Dominic shares his journey to inspire you with your God dream.

He also shares about this ground-breaking film and why animation will be the key to its massive reach. He shares about the team God has put together to create this film—A team whose credits include Disney, Pixar, and Star Wars.

And we take a few minutes to dream about how Jesus might use this film in the years ahead. You can be a part of blessing the world through this film by downloading the ASJ Insider app. It’ll enable you to follow the creation of the film and more important, how to pray to maximize its impact!

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What does happen? Is it paradise for the believer and the torments of the flame for the unbeliever as the scriptures claim? Or is it simply the end of existence. The feature film, After Death dives into what happens after we die, drawing content from near-death experiences through the eyes of scientists and survivors.

Stephen Gray, the director of After Death took 7 years researching near-death experiences and what he’s discovered adds extraordinary weight to what the scriptures have been telling us for millennia. First, in 2012 Stephen lost his brother-in-law in a car wreck. That began Stephen’s search for what happens after we die.

Then spine surgeon Dr. Mary Neal drowned during a kayak adventure and came back to tell what she saw. Next, the research of Dr. Jeffrey Long of near-death experiences and how it stunningly aligns with the Christian worldview across all cultures and religions.

Then, Howard Storms’ experience of hell and the second chance Jesus Christ gave him. And last, filmmaker Stephen Gray shares how his research restored his faith in Jesus and underscores the heart of God who “doesn’t want anyone to perish but all to come to repentance.” Share this podcast. It may change their life!

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Becoming a mature, grown-up, robust follower of Jesus is the journey of a lifetime. There are no shortcuts, there’s no wonder pill. It’s the journey of a thousand miles that begins with a single step.

Today Brian Aulick, lead pastor of Engedi Church and host of the Made To Advance podcast joins Perry to talk about the steps we must take to reach spiritual maturity.

It starts with the basics, turning from our false saviors to Jesus, getting baptized, adopting a servant mindset, and living in the light of eternity (which motivates us to make the most of now).

But then it’s not just knowing and even practicing the basics. But it’s intentionally passing them onto others. In other words, being a disciple who’s making disciples.

And last it’s not just practicing the basics and passing them on, it’s saying, “Jesus, I don’t want to live in past victories. Take me into the deep waters of dependence where I’ll never make it unless you come through.”

It’s the hard, beautiful, exhilarating journey to become a fully mature follower of Jesus. And every step we take on the journey leads to the joy we long for but can never achieve when we live life for self.

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It takes a long time to become a person of great faith. God commanded Noah to build an ark to save the world. But it was hard.

So today Dan Thompson of Crossroads Bible and Perry zoom in on the life of Noah to see what it takes to hear God say, “Your faith in me is deep and wide and connects you with my plan to heal the world!”

So first we see that Noah took the step that begins it all: “God I’m a sinner and I need you.” Then, Noah needed God to micromanage him. Wait, what? Yep.

Next he needed to push forward when people thought he was crazy. Then we see how Noah’s obedience saved Moses centuries later.

Next we see that Noah had to get out of bed day after day after day especially when he didn’t want to! Then, deep faith is never giving up till we hear “Well done good and faithful servant!”

Next we see that Noah’s deep faith came from knowing God loved him. And last we see that when we grow into a deep faith we do so only because of God’s faithfulness.

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When Ryan Skoog was a boy he was tormented by anxiety, night after night. Then he saw the light and heard the words that chased the fear away forever. Ryan’s the founder and president of Venture, a non-profit bringing the gospel to the toughest places in the world where the gospel’s being heard for the first time!

On the podcast Ryan shares astonishing stories of Aslan on the move first from his own family. Then, the Badi people are treated like refuse. They believe they deserve to be treated like refuse because of the sins of their former lives. But Jesus is shattering the lie! Next, Colonel Ral was exterminating people until Jesus appeared to him in a dream.

Then, Esther thought she was worthless until she heard the gospel. Now this twenty-something is hiking through tiger-infested jungles to bring the gospel to those who’ve never heard. Next, Hannah, the little girl rescued from sex trafficking, then embraced by Jesus and raised up to share the gospel with the president of her country.

Then, as he was beaten by extremists he said, “I will die or plant a church, but I am not leaving.” Last, the haters of a group of new believers asked, “Why aren’t you dead, we poisoned you!” Jesus is pushing back the darkness in the darkest, gospel-less places in the world through Venture. Join what he’s doing!

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Chris Coursey was being yelled at and humiliated in public and yet he was able to stay chill and help the person who was humiliating him. Chris is author of The Joy Switch, host of the Relational Skills in Real Life podcast, and founder of Thrive Today, a ministry that draws from the amazing discoveries in brain science to help us flourish in every relationship.

Chris joins the team to share just how he was able absorb and transform that public humiliation. He shares how to teach our emotions to draw people in rather than push them away. Perry asks Chris how the Perry and Shawna Mornings team can resolve conflict when it happens.

Chris shares how in the world he was able to quiet his emotions when he thought he was going to die in a sailboat race. And Perry gets advice from Chris about Perry’s suffering friend who’s more depressed and hopeless than ever. We can learn to thrive in our relationships especially when it’s hard!

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He’s a pastor, author, and apologist. And he still has doubts about the tough questions of faith. But he’s learned how to leverage doubt to propel him forward and not cause him to spiral backward.

JD Greear, pastor of The Summit Church in NC joins us to talk about his new book, 12 Truths and a Lie: Answers to Life’s Biggest Questions. JD takes on some of the toughest questions he’s fielded over the years and that he’s also wrestled with.

In the podcast, JD shares how he wrestled with doubts about his salvation, how to unhinge politics from the gospel. We also take on other tough questions: If God’s really in control, why so much suffering? How could a loving God send people to hell?

And surely the biblical sexual ethic is bigoted. Or is it? Listen in to a conversation between Perry and JD that gives you permission to doubt and insight on how to grow through it. If this encourages you, please share!

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The #1 reason? We think we need to win our friend to Jesus the first time we share our faith with them. Not true! Aaron Bolduc is a gifted evangelist who works with Ambassadors for Christ International. Aaron joins us to shatter the myths you may have about sharing Jesus.

Aaron shares about his grandfather who faithfully shared Jesus for years with his brother who kept on rejecting the gospel. But his persistence miraculously paid off. Then Stephanie, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener asks how to reach a friend who wants nothing to do with Jesus.

Chris, another Perry and Shawna Mornings friend asks how to reach the 4 Jehovah’s Witnesses he works with. Next, the day Perry shared Jesus in the sauna with a bunch of teenagers. Then, the one thing you can do today to share your faith.

Next, the craziest thing Aaron’s ever done in sharing the gospel. (Don’t worry, you don’t have to do this!) Last, every single person on earth is quarantined from heaven. And there’s only one remedy to get us in. If you’re encouraged by today’s podcast, please share!

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Claire surrendered her life to Jesus during Covid. As the crushing weight of sin lifted off her chest she said, “Jesus, I’ll go anywhere you want, do anything you want. I’m yours!” Now four years later, she’s living in the Middle East sharing with Muslims the good news that has transformed her.

Claire’s from West Michigan and she’s back in West Michigan to tell us the amazing things God is doing among Muslims and to raise further support for a new Middle Eastern country her team will be launching into this year.

Claire shares about the night she desperately needed to know she was forgiven. It was the night she was transformed, and it included sharing with her mom all the ways she’d been deceiving her. Then, God broke Claire’s heart for those who’ve never heard the gospel. And from her broken heart she cried, “Here am I Lord, send me!”

Next, Claire shares the stories of the young Muslim man and little Muslim boy who in this last year have both embraced Jesus because of Claire’s “Yes!” And last, if you feel like God could never love you, never forgive you because of what you’ve done, Claire gets it, and she has words of eternal hope for you!

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Perry asked his son, "Taylor, do you believe God loves you?" It was painful but Taylor admitted, "No." And then, "Do you believe I love you?" And nearly as painful Taylor answered, "No.”

Perry’s son Taylor joins the team! Taylor’s working toward his MA in Counseling from Spring Arbor University. Taylor was raised in the way of Jesus and decided to follow him as a teenager. But in college he began wrestling with doubt. He wondered if any of what he had been taught and had believed for himself was true.

And a good part of that wrestling with doubt came from the blind spots that Perry and his bride Teresa had as they raised him. Join Perry and Taylor in this heart-to-heart conversation about wrestling with doubt, dad/son honesty, and reaching the place in your heart of hearts where you know God loves you.

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Happy New Year! Instead of making resolutions about what you want to do this year, you might want to consider who you want to be. Shawna was called out over break on her habit of “name dropping.”

Ouch! In an honest conversation with God she discovered that she does that so others will think she’s significant. That’s not who she wants to be! What about you, who do you want to be in a year?

Then, Jerome was on his death bed when he asked the priest, “What works do I need to do to know that I’m right with God?” The priest answered with a mic drop question and Jerome gave a mic drop answer.

Next, have you ever read the Bible and thought, “What did I just read?” Dropping into the middle of the Bible can be as confusing as catching 1 minute in the middle of a movie. It’s really hard to know what’s going on when we don’t have any context.

Shawna’s reading through the whole Bible this year chronologically using The Bible Recap reading plan. Want to join her? Click here for the plan.

Last, Perry shares, “I used to be an enemy of God and now I’m his friend, and the thing that happened in between is that I have been crucified with Christ.”

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Author and Bible teacher, Dr. Jeremy GrinnelI, joins us to answer your Bible questions. Jeremy earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary, Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at Cornerstone Seminary for nearly 15 years.

These are the questions Jeremy takes on with wisdom, wit, and humility.

The Magi opened their treasures and presented Jesus with gifts of gold, frankincense, and myrrh. Not your typical baby gifts. Speak about the significance of these gifts?

On the night of Christ’s birth why did God choose to reveal Himself first to the shepherds? Then, will everyone that ends up missing the rapture have a chance to be saved?

Can you explain where evil came from? Did God create it? The Bible says that Lucifer rebelled against God but how or why was it possible? So the 1st sin was not Adam, it was Lucifer, right?

Reading through Romans 12 and The Screwtape Letters, Paul speaks of being transformed by the renewing of our minds (Romans 12:2). The demon Screwtape speaks of transformation as well, making it a central to the doctrine in his father Satan’s house.

My question is this: What kind of transformation is being desired by God and then Satan? It’s clear neither camp wants us to stay as we are!

Then Shawna shares how God made a way (!) where there seemed to be no way for her daughter to be approved to travel to Australia. If you’ve ever wondered if God sees you and cares, this story will encourage you!

Last, “I will never forgive my brother unless he comes to me first.” What is it in us that keeps us from forgiving? It’s really a matter of whose kingdom we choose to belong to.

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What prayer practices are fueling your impact? That’s the question that was asked of leaders around the world and on this podcast we find out common threads that surfaced that will help us grow deep and go deep in prayer.

Ryan Skoog joins us to talk about a new book he’s co-authored with Peter Greer and Cameron Doolittle, Lead with Prayer. Ryan is an entrepreneur starting Fly for Good, Volunteer Card, Yonder Travel Insurance, and the nonprofit Venture.org which helps people do tough things to help people in tough places around the world.

Ryan shares that across the board the powerful prayer life of leaders internationally begins with friendship first; wasting time with Jesus like you waste time with a good friend. Being together.

Also, praying through hard times, then being intentional about every day prayer, next asking God what’s on His heart, and last the power of praying generational prayers – prayers that we may not see answered in our lifetime but that bless those who will come after us.

Prayer works! Prayer changes things. Let’s lead with prayer!

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Brian Aulick lead pastor of Engedi Church in Holland joins us to talk about Esther, the one God raised up to deliver the Jewish people from destruction.

As one who was double orphaned as a child and raised by her cousin Mordecai in exile, she could have been bitter and played small, blaming the hand she’d been dealt for the darkness she lived in. But she didn’t.

Esther received favor from God and others as she humbled herself, served others, and always gave her best. Even as she began to be noticed and promoted she remained teachable and others focused.

This Christmas we are reminded through Esther’s life that God’s favor rests on us through His Son, Jesus Christ. He is the light in the darkness who comforts us in our darkness and shows the way out.

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Author and child development specialist Dr. Kathy Koch joins us to answer your parenting questions. Dr. Kathy is the founder and president of Celebrate Kids.

Dr. Kathy shares wisdom about teenagers in same sex relationships, ungrateful kids at Christmas time, offering parenting tools to your kids as they raise your grandchildren, toddlers who refuse to eat, foster care, and technology and our kids.

Also, Shawna shares about an ordinary moment that became a holy moment as she and others talked about wanting to understand the Bible.

And Perry shares, “I once was an enemy of God and now I’m his friend and the thing that happened in between is that I was crucified with Christ.”

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It’s the first sci-fi thriller through the lens of faith, The Shift. In the ancient book of Job, Job walks the narrow way and is blessed in every way. But Satan accuses Job:

“God, Job’s an upright man only because you give him what he wants. I’ll bet if you take it all away from him, he’ll turn his back on you.” And God allows it.

That’s the inspiration behind the new sci-fi thriller, The Shift starring Neal McDonough from Minority Report, Kristoffer Polaha from Wonder Woman 1984, Sean Astin from Lord of the Rings and Liz Tabish from The Chosen.

Perry talks with producer Ken Carpenter about what drew him to The Shift, (creating a film with deep wrestling and doubt), how we resist the temptations of the enemy, creating faith adjacent films that don’t have easy answers, the crazy ending to Psalm 88 and Bono’s take on Christian music.

Perry also talks with Ken about the amazing cast of The Shift and wrestling with pride as we create art for God’s honor.

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Jean Watson has been given a gift. It’s heard in her music and felt in her gentle presence.

Jean plays violin with the Kalamazoo Symphony Orchestra, hosts an internationally broadcast radio show, tours across the country and around the world both as a performing artist and as a sought-after speaker.

She also recently released her 12th album, Behold (Carols of Worship) and her first book, Everything Can Change in Forty Days.

Twenty years ago, as a single mom raising four kids and trying to make ends meet, her landlord gifted her a Christmas tree. As he was delivering the tree he heard a recording of her singing that brought him to tears.

He told her, “I don’t know what you are doing with your life but I think this is it!” He told her to use that month’s rent money to record. And she did.

Jean shares her wrestling, surrendering journey to find God’s purpose, the God-ordained moments along the way, and the overarching theme that God has a plan for your life and if you will trust Him and obey He will lead you right into it.

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It was astonishing. The person in the hospital room that Perry's dad thought was a nurse said, "I am the word of God." It was a vision given to comfort Dave LaHaie's fearful heart.

As we wait for Christ’s return, Christmas reminds us that God keeps His promises. He fulfilled every prophecy in sending the Messiah and He will fulfill His promise to come back and make everything right.

What's wrong with the world?? “It's the radical left; no, it's those extreme right-wingers!” God tells us the truth, "The problem is not out there, it's in you."

Shawna shares a quote from Timothy Keller’s Counterfeit gods that reveals how the whole Bible is the story of Jesus, especially the Old Testament. Also, Christmas is God’s way of saying and demonstrating, “I love you this much!”

"It's the most wonderful time of the year." But what if you're not feeling it? What if you're grieving deeply?

Last, on the heels of Christmas we’ll step into a brand new year. How can you and I be prepared for whatever 2024 will bring? Shawna and Perry have a few suggestions.

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The God of the Universe who is worshiped constantly, where everything is absolutely as it should be, left heaven to be with us? Why would He do that?

The Prince of Peace has come. But maybe you’re thinking, "Then where is the peace?" Fair question. It's a conversation about where the peace is right now, (because it is here), and how not to give into despair because it's not fully here.

Shawna has been praying the same prayer for years. Stepping into a new year with the same request is disheartening. She cried out to God, explaining that if He would just answer this prayer she could become who He created her to be. That’s when she sensed God saying something she did not expect. At all.

Perry wonders, "Who am I that God would want to be with me?" And then, "I wonder if Mary thought, 'Who am I that God would want me to bear his Son?'"

Shawna shares what surfaced for her as she reflected on what God has taught her in 2023 and how Isaiah 41:13 reminds her of how safe we are because God is with us.

Then, “How are you?” We hear those words so often we usually don’t believe the person asking the question actually wants to know. It’s possible to have the same casual response to hearing the words, “God loves you.”

Last, life is the journey of learning to trust God, of learning whether we trust him enough to leap into his arms, whether we trust him enough to catch us.

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Perry shares, “Basing my identity on my performance comes naturally, but it’s an agonizing way to live. Cause some days I get the applause and other days I faceplant. And the only way out of this is to be perfect which is insanity, or to base my identity on Jesus’ performance which is freedom!”

Then, God wants to be with you. That’s what Christmas is all about! The Father sent the Son to be with us – Immanuel. As you prepare your heart for Christmas, reflect on the mysterious, beautiful truth that God wants to be with YOU.

Next, Perry admits, “I long for a home I’ve never been to, I long for life as it should be but that I’ve never experienced.” What is this longing?

Last, Rob West is the President of Kingdom Advisors and the host of Faith and Finance Live on Moody Radio. He’s dedicated his career to work at the intersection of faith and finance. He shares with us how he keeps the real meaning of Christmas central in his life during all the hustle and bustle of the season.

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A terrible car accident left her and her husband fighting for their lives. After years of fighting to recover from physical injuries, severe brain injury, fear, anxiety, trauma, and the heartache of infertility, God brought about healing through pregnancy.

Dr. Marina Hofman is a bible professor in south Florida and the author of the award-winning book, Women in the Bible Small Group Bible Study, available on Amazon and she offers a free video series of women in the Bible at womeninthebible.info.

Marina shares what we can learn from Mary, the mother of Jesus, about moving forwards when life blindsides us, about the blessings and hardships of surrendering to God’s call, and about the importance of community in healing from fear, anxiety and trauma.

Then, Shawna hopes you get what you are longing for this Christmas. But even if you do it won’t satisfy your soul. Only Jesus can do that. Are you longing for Him this Christmas?

Last, Perry shares, “When I was in deep pain of my darkest depression, I felt like God was hurting me, but he was actually bringing me home.”

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When God gives you a kingdom dream and you step into it, you will be opposed. That’s what Enoch and Nathan faced as they walked into an Islamic city to share Jesus. An angry man got in their faces, drew a line in the dirt and said, “Don’t cross this line!”

Then, instead of blending in to a polluted world we can be a breath of fresh air! Paul encourages us to shine like stars in a crooked and depraved generation by not complaining.

Next, there will be plenty of opportunities in December to feel like getting the right gift, or having the cookies turning out just right, is the most important thing. Let’s keep Jesus at the center this Christmas.

Then, Peter, who denied Jesus three times, was forgiven, and learned how to lead. Before his denial he wanted to rule on a throne, but after his failure he learned that leading looks like washing feet. And it’s the same for you and me.

Last, we love feeling needed but feeling needed isn’t the reason to say “yes.” It’s okay to respectfully decline.

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Everybody you meet is going through something. Including you. For those who put their trust in Jesus we can experience joy even in the chaos.

The kingdom of God is both now and not yet. With so much evil in the world, how could the kingdom be anything but not yet? Perry and Shawna dive into it!

Then, we tend to think of God as one who has access to, and generously distributes what we need. Truth is, He IS what we need.

Next, there's poison in me and in you that’s killing us. This reality has the power to root out self-righteousness anytime it rears its ugly head. A conversation about the doctrine of original sin.

Then, do you ever feel plagued by thoughts of regret over what you’ve said, what you’ve done? Because of Jesus’ death and resurrection you and I can live without guilt in this life and with no fear of what will happen when we die.

Last, the Christmas season can be full of expectations. Shawna shares how she recently processed unmet expectations with God.

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That’s envy.

When envy is allowed to live unchecked in our hearts, it will destroy the best of our relationships, our communities, and our world!

Pastor, author and host of Focal Point, Mike Fabarez, shares that though envy can often go undetected, once we are aware of it, with God’s help, it can be rooted out!

Envy: A Big Problem You Didn't Know You Had explores gospel-centered ways to kill envy and close the gaps that leave us vulnerable to envy's temptations.Please share this powerful podcast!

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Shawna admits: “It’s easy for me to get so focused on the future that I don’t realize I’m right in the middle of what I have been praying for!” Then, Perry shares that, “For so long, shame kept me from experiencing spiritual freedom.”

Then, last week Shawna was wrestling with fear. Something was coming that had bad history attached to it and as she imagined it fear gripped her tighter and tighter until she imagined Jesus there with her.

Next, when Shawna was in labor with her first born she was so determined to give birth that she ended up fighting her own body and the birthing process. It wasn’t until she relaxed that her body did what it was going to do anyway—a conversation about trusting Jesus’ power and not our own.

Then, there are 3 things that you can absolutely be sure about, and that no oneor nothing will ever be able to take away from you, because of your relationship with Jesus.

Last, Shawna talks about experiencing God's amazing grace, and how it is something we don't deserve.

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Medhat, a Muslim man from Cairo experienced his vision of Jesus and the fire of God healing his body just after watching The Jesus Film. Josh Newell, the Executive Director of The Jesus Film Project joins us to share about these astonishing works of Jesus through The Jesus Film!

Josh has “God so loved the world”beating in his chest. Before becoming the head of the Jesus Film Project, Josh and his bride, Holly, served in North Africa, the Middle East, and Central Asia, bringing the gospel to Muslim people groups through The Jesus Film.

Josh shares Medhat’s jaw-dropping story, he also shares when his future wife Holly led him to the foot of the cross. There’s also the story of 13 kidnap victims who were saved from certain execution by Jesus through The Jesus Film.

Also, God delights to use the simple and weak things of the world to confound the wise. That’s the story of The Jesus Film. Then the Vietnamese woman who knew nothing of Jesus except that his came to her mind and she googled it.

Next, the 2100th translation of the Jesus Film! For the Waorani tribe who were originally reached through the martyrdom of Jim Elliot. And last, how long until The Jesus Film is translated into the remaining 4500 plus languages of the world? Josh’s audacious vision!

The Jesus Film Project is a Media Ministry whose passion is to bring the gospel to every person in the world in their own heart language.

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Anxiety has become the most common mental health issue of our time for kids and teens. Between 40-50% of kids and teens locally report experiencing worries and anxieties significant enough to impair their ability to function.

What if you could snuggle up with your child and read a beautifully illustrated book that would give your child the tools they need in a language they understand to help them calm the worry wave? You can with Emilie DeYoung’s new book Peanut Butter Pie.

Emilie DeYoung is the Clinical Director for Winning At Home’s Counseling Team. She holds a PhD in psychology with an emphasis on child and adolescent counseling and a master’s degree in social work. She has been working with children and families since 1996. Specific areas of expertise include childhood anxiety disorders, obsessive-compulsive disorder, depression, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, childhood temperament and trauma recovery.

Journey through the pages together and together find practical ways to calm the worry wave with your child.

Emilie also shared with us the personal benefits of having a grateful heart.

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Think about Jesus’ feeding of the 5,000: What if only the first 3 rows were fed, leaving the last rows untouched? Similarly and despite Jesus’ call to spread His message to the “ends of the Earth,” over a third of the world lacks access to the gospel. Mission efforts disproportionately prioritize people with the gospel access, while ignoring those without.

A mere penny from every dollar on foreign missions reaches the ends of the Earth. Greg Kelley, CEO of Unknown Nations(formerly World Mission), in his new book Last 4 Words. challenges us to contemplate: “What role do I play in taking the gospel to the ends of the Earth?”

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Culture is discipling our kids, “Explore every sexual choice to try to figure out how to express your sexuality.” Yet the designer Himself has already shared with us His design for sexuality.

Founder and Mama-Bear-in-Chief of Mama Bear Apologetics, Hillary Morgan Ferrer is passionate about providing understandable apologetics resources for busy moms.

She’s the co-author of the bestselling book, Mama Bear Apologetics: Empowering Your Kids to Challenge Cultural Lies as well as the recently released Mama Bear Apologetics Guide to Sexuality.

In this conversation with Hillary we talk about God’s design for gender, sex, marriage, and family as a beautiful portrait that reveals the nature of God Himself.

We also talk about how to equip your kids to hold firm to God’s design for sex as they interacting with the LGBTQ community. And to do it with love and grace!

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“If he can do it, I can do it,” Shawna’s then four year old said of the Olympic Athlete. There’s something about seeing that it can be done that inspires us to keep going.

One of Perry’s friends wonders, “Is God this angry judge who’s threatening me with hell so I’ll accept him.” What’s really in God’s heart toward us?

Faith and action are inseparable. To say you believe and not act like you believe is not faith.

Since Perry crashed into grace he’s been ready to go where Jesus wants him to go, to do what Jesus wants him to do. But when Jesus says, “wait,” that’s not easy at all for him.

Do you have a personal relationship with Jesus? Has faith moved from religion to relationship? Faith isn’t faith until it’s personal.

Last, what to do when you’re overwhelmed by the tsunamis of life.

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Lies are powerful. God’s Truth is stronger.

In Lies Boys Believe and the Epic Quest For Truth Erin & Jason Davis identify lies that boys believe and the truth that frees them to be who God created them to be. Lies like “No one needs to know about my sin.” And “I’m too young to do anything for Jesus.”

As parents of four boys, Erin & Jason use witty storytelling and playful graphics to present gospel truth to combat the most common lies boys believe.

Then, coming out of his teenage years Perry believed 2 things: “God deeply loves me,” and, “What I’ve done wrong is who I am, there’s no hope for me,” These 2 beliefs collided on Christmas 1996.

Next, even when we can’t see what God is up to we can trust that He is with us, faithfully working for our good.

Last, Perry admits, “I have this low grade fear that God will kick me out of his family but the fear drives me to trust God and not my shifting feelings.

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Why won’t my kids obey? Why do they want everything to be easy? How do we raise kids of character who change culture? We’re so glad you asked!

Dr. Kathy Koch is the founder and president of Celebrate Kids and a child development specialist. She’s also the author of seven bestselling parent-child enrichment books.

In her latest book, Parent Differently: Raise Kids with Biblical Character That Changes Culture, Kathy reminds parents that if we want to see our children adopt positive attitudes, act righteously, and develop healthy habits, then we must lead by example in modeling biblical character.

Then, if what you’re going through feels bigger than what you can handle, there is a spiritual strength available to you from God.

Next, Perry shares, “I spent time with a suffering friend on Sunday and walked away feeling like I didn’t help him at all.” It’s a conversation about loving unconditionally.

Last, if you’re working through life’s hard stuff or you need to make a decision about something really important, God will give you wisdom if. Not if we’re perfect, it’s something else.

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Maybe this is how you feel!

The good news is that God doesn’t expect you to do everything. And He certainly doesn’t expect you to do it all overnight. Showing up is often the most important thing.

Drew Dyck is an editor at Moody Publishers and the former managing editor of Leadership Journal. He’s the author of several books, including Your Future Self Will Thank You: Secrets to Self-Control from the Bible and Brain Science.

Today we’re talking about his new book Just Show Up: How Small Acts of Faithfulness Change Everything. A Guide For Exhausted Christians.

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89.3 Moody Radio and Reach the Forgotten are teaming up to share Jesus’ love with inmates during the Christmas season. We’re calling it Christmas in the Jail.

The holidays are the hardest season for inmates and their families. There is an increased number of mental health issues & suicide attempts.

Erika Mariglia of Reach the Forgotten joins us to share how you and I can bring hope in the jails this Christmas.

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Caris Snider loves to share the hope of God through speaking, writing, coaching, and leading worship. She’s the author of Anxiety Elephants: 31 Day Devotional and Anxiety Elephants: 90 Day Devotional for Tween Boys and Girls.

From her own personal experience, she helps women in their journey of overcoming depression, anxiety, fear, and shame. She joins us to talk about her newest book Car Line Mom Devotional: 100 Days of Encouragement for the Mama Who Gets Everybody Everywhere.

Caris knows what it is to live with the expectation of being the perfect mom. She’s been harassed by the “should bully.” And she’s allowed comparison to steal her joy.

She’s found comfort, healing, and peace in the person of Jesus. Hear her words of hard-won, real-life encouragement for you and me. Also, Perry shares, “I’ve learned to confess my sins to trusted friends because I was so miserable in isolation.” There’s healing in confessing to one another.

We all long for our kids and grandkids to love and follow Jesus. Shawna shares a story about how faith was taught and caught in her family. Last, do you know why you’re here, on this planet, at this moment in time? Our God purpose is massive.

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Dannah Gresh, author of Mary: Becoming A Girl of Faithfulness joins us. But first, Shawna asks: “What is the million dollar question? The question that, if answered, would radically transform your life?” A good friend asked Shawna this question at a pivotal moment in her life and answering it got her unstuck.

Then, Dannah Gresh is the bestselling author, speaker, and founder of True Girl, America’s most popular Christian tween event. She has authored over twenty books, including Lies Girls Believe.

Considered one of the leading experts on the subject of sexual theology and parenting tweens and teens, her resources have equipped over one million moms as they seek to raise their girls in confidence and truth.

Our girls are in crisis. Never have our tweens, 8-12 year olds, been in the cross hairs of the enemy like they are right now. They are being told that they can decide who they are. But God’s Word tells us we were created for His glory.

What if like Mary, our girls fell in love with Jesus and were willing to say “Yes” to whatever He has for them? Dannah’s new Bible Study Mary: Becoming a Girl of Faithfulness will help you lead your tween to know and love and remain faithful to Jesus.

Then, Perry shares, “When we suffer well, we give our suffering world a window into hope.” It’s a conversation about how our suffering is our greatestwitness to our world.

Last, you are a part of God’s family and that makes you part of the family business – spreading the good news of Jesus to the world. Shawna shares some encouraging stories of how God is moving in West Michigan right now. Are you ready to be a part of it?

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Jordan Humbarger, Young  Adults Pastor at Engedi Church joins us to talk about what we can learn from Simon Peter’s encounter with Jesus in Luke 5:1-8. When Peter thought he was done fishing Jesus told him to put his boat out in deeper water.

Is there an area of your life where you want to be done and God is calling you to deeper water?  Could you say, like Peter, “Because you say so, I will let down my nets in the deep?” Are you even willing to let Jesus in your boat? Jordan shares stories from his life and insights from this passage.

Then, the Sunday morning greeter actually said to Perry, “Why so glum?” And Perry thought, “thank you very much Mr. Greeter!”

And Shawna invites us to live in the gospel truth that we don’t have to prove anything to anyone today.

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Daniel Gil is the 2020 American Ninja Warrior Grand Champion, and a seven-time national finalist for ANW. He’s also a motivational speaker, a worship leader, and a ninja Obstacle Course Race trainer. And he’s the author of Kingdom Ninja: A Warrior’s Guide to Physical, Mental, and Spiritual Health. He and his wife, Abby, live in Houston, TX.

Daniel knows all about perseverance. He’s experienced victory. He’s overcome obstacles. His story transcends sports and speaks to the human experience. His commitment to living a purpose-driven life serves as an inspiration to us—across generations, encouraging us to pursue our dreams with unwavering faith.

Daniel joins us to tell us his story of faith, his career as an American Ninja Warrior, and what it takes to glorify God, win or lose. He says “The greatest words of love we can tell the Lord are ‘I trust you.’”

Also in this episode, Shawna shares what she’s learning as she’s spent the last month reflecting on Jesus’ invitation to keep company with Him and to learn to live freely and lightly (Matthew 11:28-30). Perry admits, “I have often felt unworthy to come to God.”

Shawna admits that doing life with others is hard! In Romans Paul prays that God would give us endurance, encouragement & the same attitude towards one another that Jesus had so that God would be glorified through our unity. Last, Perry shares, “In the times I feel that I’m better than you, I’ve found only one remedy. The gospel.”

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Perry shares, "I've been asking God for clear direction for the last three months and until yesterday I was more unsure than when I first started praying! Until I realized one thing."

“The reality of reading our Bibles – communing with Jesus – all of it is like eating food. Not every meal you eat is memorable. That doesn’t mean it doesn’t nourish you.” A friend of Shawna’s saw this posted on social and shared it with her. Shawna’s excited to bring it to you and to have a conversation about it.

Sin can deceive us to let go of Christ. That's why we need each other! We need to remind each other every day why we started following Jesus in the first place and why it's SO worth it to keep holding on!"

You’ve probably seen “This or That?” posts on social. Here’s one for you: ”10 Billion Dollars Today or Speak With Jesus for 1 Minute?” We talk through what we could do with the money and what we would do if we had 1 minute with Jesus.  What would you do?

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David Doerner, lead pastor at Frontline Church, and Jeneeth Pathula, missions pastor at Frontline Church, join us to talk about loving our neighbor. Intentionality, prayer, and loving others the way we want to be loved are all key components to loving our neighbor. But as Jesus says in Matthew 22:37-40, it all begins with nurturing our love relationship with God.

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God wants you to know Him. He already knows all there is to know about you and He wants you to know all there is to know about Him. He has always wanted a close relationship with you. He’s making Himself known to us in all kinds of ways every day. Shawna passes on some stories she heard from Andy Byrd of how God is revealing himself around the world.

Scripture says we are to walk in the light. What does that look like?  Scott shares practical ways we can learn to walk in the light.

What repels God? What draws Him in? Pride repels God and humility draws Him in. At the Asbury outpouring people were confessing sin and God’s presence was heavily upon them. What would happen for you and me if we too started confessing our pride? Our sin?

Not to be dramatic, but Scott had a near death experience when he was only 7 years old. He shares that great story of rescue and friendship with the one who saved him. It’s an invitation to not only be grateful to God but to nurture relationship with Him as well.

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Shawna’s daughter was leading worship on Tuesday night at a student led gathering on her college campus when something unexpected happened that changed the atmosphere. It was a God moment! Shawna shares what happened. Gen Z is hungry for God!

Perry asks, “What if we could come to the place where we didn’t have any boundaries for our desires?” It’s actually what were we were created to experience.

There are times when we wonder if God sees us. I have a question for you. Can He not? Isaiah in chapter 40 verse 27-31 reminds us who God is and what He’s capable of. He sees you! He’s right here with you. And He’s renewing the strength of those who hope in Him.

To experience God’s radical grace we need to see God’s overwhelming glory.Last, in this conversation, if you beat yourself up over your past sins Perry has just one thing to say, “I can relate!”

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When God drops a dream in your heart it will be opposed. By the enemy. By your impure motives. And by what you think your world will think of it. So how do we finish the work Jesus has given us in the face of such opposition?

Jesus said, “My command is this: Love each other as I have loved you.” It’s so simple but so challenging. What does it look like to love like Jesus? He lived selflessly, prioritized other people, served to the point of death and valued both truth and grace.

Last, Perry admits, "I can be a captive to so many things! Fears, shame, perfectionism. And breaking through my chains are Jesus' words, 'If the Son sets you free, you will be free indeed.'"

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Worship leader, Lindy Cofer, was raised in a Christian home. She was 18 when an experience with God and a new understanding of the cross changed everything she thought about Christianity. It’s not about avoiding hell, it’s about living now and for eternity with Jesus.

Lindy and her husband, Chase, have given their lives to activate and empower the Church to rise and be the solution for the 3.2 billion that have yet to hear the gospel in this nation and in the nations of the earth. They currently work full time as missionaries with The Send and YWAM Circuit Riders located in Huntington Beach, CA.

Lindy shares how Isaiah 6 shapes her perspective as a worship leader. She tells us the story behind her powerful song Take Courage. And as one who works with Gen Z Lindy sees first hand that this generation is either all in or all out. Their value system is sovereign.

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Mark is an ambassador for the Kingdom of God cleverly disguised as an exterminator. He was on a routine call from a customer who had a yellow jack infestation. After treating them he was surrounded by hundreds of bees. He was stung some 20-30 times.

Within minutes he was staggering to his vehicle before passing out. Unable to communicate he heard his customer saying, “Mark, Mark, do you hear the sirens? They’re coming for you, Mark. Help is on the way.”

As Mark tells his story we are reminded of how fragile life is.

Living in the moment: Free from regretting the past . Free from fearing the future. It's the sweet spot, and Perry admits, "I'm not doing this well right now."

When we are tired we each have our go-to pick me ups – we indulge in a doughnut or do a little online shopping. All the while Jesus has exactly what we need and he says to us, “Come to me.”

It may seem hard to believe, because you know yourself. But when Jesus returns, you will be blameless. He will finish the good work he's doing in you!

Last, Romans 10:9 tells us that, “If you declare with your mouth, ‘Jesus is Lord,’ and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead you will be saved.”

There are a lot of different ideas about who Jesus is. Believing in a Jesus of your own making does not result in salvation. Only believing in Jesus for who He is will save you.

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God is moving in West Michigan!

Andy Byrd and his wife Holly have dedicated their lives to spiritual awakening in this generation. Andy is part of the leadership of University of the Nations & YWAM Kona. He joins us to talk about how God is working through The Send – mobilizing a generation to surrender their lives to reach the world for Jesus.

Andy shares incredible stories of what God is doing through The Send. All God wants from you is your “Yes”. He’ll provide the rest.

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We largely and often misunderstand this life and why we’re here. Thomas Merton used an image of a cosmic dance. He says, “If we could let go of our obsession with what we think is the meaning of it all, we might be able to hear [God’s] call and follow Him in His mysterious cosmic dance.” Perry and Shawna talk about what it means to dance with God.

Perry admits, "Not everything is as is should be in my life. I have a brother who's suffered for years and he's not getting better." Perry's perplexed but notin despair.

Last, the culture is training us to lose focus. In 2015 the average attention span of a person was 8.5 seconds! That’s less than a goldfish! We need to be trained by the Holy Spirit to keep our attention on God.

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One in four pregnancies ends in loss. Rachel Lohman shares her personal experience with miscarriage and her journey to find hope again in Miscarried Hope: Journeying with Jesus through Pregnancy and Infant Loss.

Rachel Lohman holds a master’s degree in theology and ministry from Fuller Theological Seminary. She is a pastor, speaker, and founder of Hope Again Collective, a handmade earring line that shares the stories of loss moms. Rachel is a mother to two living children and one in heaven. She and her husband, Mark, currently lead a bilingual church in Southern California.

Rachel talks with us about the shame women carry after losing a baby. She explains how Jesus models in his own grief how to hold on to hope, even through the darkest days. Rachel also offers practical ways to come alongside loss moms in meaningful ways in the weeks, months and even years following loss.

Next Shawna shares how she’s inspired by Abraham’s faith. “Against all hope, Abraham in hope believed…”(Rom. 4:18). Even when there was no concrete evidence for it, Abraham believed God for what only God could do.

Perry poses the question: Where do you start when you feel unqualified to join Jesus in his mission to heal your world? Then Shawna Beyer challenges us to “prepare our fields” as we pray for God to move. Last, Perry shares that the power to bring God’s kingdom to your world starts where your strength ends.

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We all want to be deeply understood. We long to be known. It’s both what we fear most and what we desire most. God put that longing in us that we would find it in a love relationship with Him.

He invites us in Psalm 46:10 to Be Still and to know that He is God. Shawna shares what that looks like in her life.

They say hindsight is 20/20. When we look back we can see realities that we weren’t aware when we were in the moment. Jacob, in Genesis 28, shares a time when the Lord was with him and he did not know it.

When you run out of words and you don’t know what to say in prayer the Holy Spirit intercedes for you. Because He knows your heart and he knows the mind of God (because He is God) He leads you to pray God’s will.

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The kids are back in school. That can stir up a lot of emotions for kids andparents. How can we build emotional safety in our home? Emilie DeYoung joins us with practical things we can do to help everyone in our family to adjust and thrive. She refers to them as the ABCs of returning to school.

Emilie is the clinical director of Counseling Services at Winning at Home. She holds a PhD in psychology with an emphasis on child and adolescent counseling and a masters degree in social work. She strives to help kids and teens understand their precious worth.

Then, Perry got this email from Jeff, a Perry and Shawna listener: “My uncle was found dead in his apartment, he was so far from God and I fear where he is now.” What happened after that email is amazing.

JD Walt says, “There are two fundamental resources that enable us to be fruitful followers of Jesus in the world: One, the Word of God. And two, the Spirit of God.” The goal is not to have 50% of each but 100 % of each, just like Jesus.

Then, maybe there’s someone you love who doesn’t want anything to do with Jesus. Their heart seems impenetrable. If so we’ve got some hope to share!

Last, we need to pass on our story to the next generation. It’s really as easy as one, two, three. One, what was life like before? Two, what happened to change your thinking? And three, how is life different now? Share your story with someone today!

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We’re currently not showing up as the best version of ourselves in the world today. Judging, canceling and even just walking by others is not what we were created for.

Rev. Percy McCray Jr., has been working with cancer patients and caregivers for almost 3 decades now helping them to see that faith is a key component to cancer treatment.

Almost five years ago Percy was diagnosed with colon cancer. His cancer diagnosis helped hm become a better version of himself.

Today he helps us to consider: How can I become a better version of myself? How can I make the world a better place? How do we show up in the earth as a global citizen? And how do we stop competing with others and simply compete with ourselves?

Then, in Matthew 11:28 Jesus invites us to work with him and to show us how to live in the unforced rhythms of grace.

The Lord dropped a dream in Perry’s heart. And then, Perry wrestled it away from the Lord thinking he knew best what the dream should look like. Let’s just say Perry learned that the Lord doesn’t need his advice.

Shawna shares how she has a tendency to pull inward and withdraw from the world when she feels unsafe. Psalm 16 has been a huge comfort to her as she remembers that she is ultimately safe in God.

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Whether it’s our kids and screens or our college students being led away from the values we instilled in them, our kids are being kidnapped by outside forces.

Stephen Arterburn, founder and chairman of New Life Ministries, host of #1 nationally syndicated Christian counseling talk show, New Life Live!, and founder of Women of Faith conferences is with us to talk about his newest books Understanding and Loving Your Child in a Screen-Saturated World and Understanding and Loving Your College Student.

Steve suggests that along with limiting screen time we also get involved with our kids in screen time. That being said, there is no substitute for face to face, relationship building time with your child.

Steve also shares that if you’re sending your kids off to college, it’s important to know your child. Will they need to hear from you daily? Or do they need a week to make friends before a phone call?

Encourage them to engage with the activities offered on their campus to help them to meet other people and get the most out of the college experience. It’s also important to note that college isn’t for everyone. What would best set your child up for fulfilling God’s call on their life?

Shawna challenges us to move from celebrating what we know to putting it into practice. Next, the gavel has come down. You’re guilty. You’re about to face the penalty, and the judge does something unprecedented.

Perry admits, “There are moments I fear I’ve disqualified myself from being at God’s table.” Last, Shawna shares a story of hearing from God and learning to obey what He’s said.

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For centuries Christian’s have been asking if the newest technology is the mark of the beast. Maybe you’ve wondered about that yourself. Dr. Jeremy Grinnell joins us to answer your bible questions.

Dr. Jeremy GrinnelI earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at a seminary for nearly 15 years. You can connect with Jeremy at BellowingOfCain.com.

“Is the microchip the mark of the beast?” is the first question Dr. Grinnell takes on in this episode followed by “If a divorced woman remarries is that adultery?” “Why do pastors affirm gay marriages?” “Does God love all people?” and if so, “Why did God wipe out all creation in the flood?”

Shawna shares a personal story of reconciliation and talks about God’s plan for us to reconcile with him as we walk out our relationship with him each day.

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At Unity Christian Music Festival we had the opportunity to sit down with several of the artists and they really shared their hearts with us.

Singer, songwriter and worship leader, Katy Nichole who made her debut in2022, with the release of the single "In Jesus Name (God of Possible),"shared about her struggle with depression and suicidal thoughts.

We also connected with Casting Crowns. We asked guitarist Juan DeVevo, violinist Melodee DeVovo & frontman Mark Hall “What is the fresh thing God is doing in your life?”

Last, we spent some time with singer/songwriter Colton Dixon. We talked about life, Jesus, and he even sang “Piano Man” for us!

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Back in 2010 Donny Irving purchased the most affordable house in Grand Rapids. Soon after, he had kids trespassing on his property, playing hoops in his driveway. His neighbor, and elderly gentleman named Pete said, “Someone should do something to help them out.”

That was Donny’s call to ministry. Instead of kicking them off his property he opened up his home to them and started a bible study.

Community Kids transforms communities through kids. Through camps, mentors, and serving, kids are giving their lives to Jesus and it’s changing the way they think, act and talk.

Donny brings Theirry &  Amicka into the studio with him and they share their stories of meeting and following Jesus. God is on the move on the streets of Grand Rapids!

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Singer & Songwriter, Ben Fuller, grew up on a farm in Vermont, working alongside his father. He passed the time singing old country tunes. Somewhere between high school & college he picked up a guitar and never looked back.

He was at Unity Christian Music Festival last week and Shawna got to sit down and have a heart to heart with him before he took the mainstage.

Ben opens up about how serving in prison ministry fills him up and shares the story behind his song “Who I Am.” When he met Jesus he was an addict, a liar, and an alcoholic. He says that his first experience with God is the highest he’s ever been.

He talks about how he wished someone had told him at the beginning that following Jesus would be hard. And then he speaks directly to the person who is where he was just 3 and a half years ago. You’ll want to hear what he says.

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Jordan Feliz, Dove Award-winning contemporary pop singer and songwriter, performed at Unity Christian Music Festival and we spent some time with him talking about real life and following Jesus.

Jordan shared his hard fought battle with anxiety, his need for true community and what it really means to worship God. (It’s something WAY beyond what Jordan does with music).

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Are you struggling with loneliness? Do you just really long for a good friend? Shawna’s been there. More than once, actually. As she prayed for a friend she also took some intentional steps to grow deeper in her relationships. You can too. We were created for meaningful relationship with God and with one another.

A couple weeks ago a temptation grabbed Perry’s imagination. The temptation was saying to him, “If you give in to this sin it will deliver all your heart is longing for.”

Shawna is so grateful for growing up in a Christian home where she always knew that God loved her. But there came a time when she personally decided to follow Jesus, even if her family didn’t. She shares her story with us.

Singer & songwriter, Rachael Lampa, was seemingly at the height of her career when she walked away from it all. She was working with her parents non-profit discipling women in jail when these words came to her, “You’re not a problem. You’re not a mistake. Don’t need fixing or solving.” That was the beginning of her new song that put her back on the road, “Perfectly Loved.”

Shawna got to sit down with Rachael at Unity Christian Music Festival and she shared the story behind “Perfectly Loved” and another song of hers called “Somebody To You.”

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As a teenager Brad gave his heart to Jesus. At the same time he had same sex attraction. What do you do with being attracted to the same sex when you have given your life to Jesus?  

Brad didn’t know how to answer that question so he did everything he could to be who everyone else wanted him to be in every circumstance.

On a personal spiritual retreat he found that he didn’t know who to be when it was just Him & God. That was when God told him he needed to be honest with someone about his 25 year secret. And he obeyed.

Today Brad Klaver is the Coaching Director at Winning at Home. He’s deeply passionate about empowering others to discover, own and be unleashed into their full potential and identity as people made in the image of God, to be loved by Him and to love Him in return.

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All we have to go on as we begin a family of our own is all we have known, our family of origin. But what if you don’t want to repeat what was modeled for you? Are healthy families possible?

Strong, healthy families are possible and do exist, but they don’t happen without meaningful effort.

Author of  #1 New York Times bestseller The Five Love Languages, Dr. Gary Chapman, shows us the way to a loving, stable family in his new book 5 Traits of a Healthy Family: Steps You Can Take to Grow Closer, Communicate Better, & Change the World Together.

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Glenna Marshall memorized scripture as a child to compete with other churches in bible drills. Then she stopped. She picked it up again in her 30’s when she was crying out to God to help her get victory over her sin of impatience with her kids.

Writer, mother, and lover of Scripture Glenna Marshall has since learned the power of memorizing scripture to renew her mind and make her fall more in love with Jesus. She joins us to talk about her new book Memorizing Scripture: The Basics, Blessings, And Benefits of Meditation on God’s Word.

Along with personal stories I think you’ll identify with Glenna as she shares practical ways we can learn to hide God’s word in our hearts.

Also, in this episode, it’s a title given to Jesus only twice in the New Testament, and in one title it captures God’s plan to heal the world!

Shawna shares how we all long for intimate relationships and offers some practical things we can do to deepen our friendships.

Last, Jesus furiously pursues sinners who hate themselves, like you and me, and breaks down our every excuse to bring us home.

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As the kids head off to school, whether to their first day of Kindergarten or they are moving out of your home and into a college dorm, these changes can be hard. When everything is changing God is my rock in whom I take refuge.

That Jesus is “the firstborn of all creation” should cause us to explode in worship! Next, Covid made it difficult if not impossible to gather with other believers. But now we can get together. We’re meant to do life together.

Psalm 133:1 says, “How good and pleasant it is when God’s people live together in Unity!” If you’re out of the practice of gathering with others we encourage you to reconnect!

Then, Perry shares, “My greatest longing is to see the face of God.”

Last, the handling of finances is one of the major emotional battlegrounds of any marriage. Rob West, host of Faith & Finance Live joins us to talk about 3 things that will change the way we relate to our spouse about money & will drive us toward greater unity.

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Is it wrong to chase your dreams? To try and discover your calling? How do you know when you’ve found it?

Author and Bible teacher Kelly Needham reveals how we’ve been fooled into chasing meaning and purpose in all the wrong places, identifies the source of our hunger for the extraordinary and shows us the steps we can take today to build a purpose-filled reality without turning our lives upside-down.

We think you’ll love her new book Purpose-fooled: Why Chasing Your Dreams, Finding Your Calling, and Reaching For Greatness Will Never Be Enough.

Also, in this episode Perry shares what Jesus told Perry’s mom right before she decided to follow him. And Shawna shares when God gave her what she longed for most and she had to give it back to him.  

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If you’re passionate about leading your family well you need Level 5 Friendship. Lucky for you, we know the guy who wrote the playbook.

Jeff Kemp is a champion for strengthening relationships and teamwork. In his 11 years in the NFL he quarterbacked for the Rams, Forty-Niners, Seahawks and Eagles.

Also, during those years, he was surrounded by men who wanted the best for him and for each other.

Jeff says, “Having a couple of believing brothers who want my best and spur me to live in the Way of Jesus makes me a better man.”

Ready to unlock the power of deep friendship? Get the playbook and huddle up!

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Have you seen the “He Gets Us” ads? Maybe you saw one of the two commercials they aired during the Superbowl. You saw it was about Jesus but wondered “Who’s behind it?” Even though you love Jesus you were skeptical about the campaign.

Jordan Carson is the Director of Communications for He Gets Us and she lives right here in West Michigan. We invited her into the studio to get to know her and to find out more about the campaign.

We asked Jordan: What is He Gets Us? Why did you leave a job you loved to get involved with this campaign? What’s the agenda? Is it political? Religious? What kind of results are you seeing from the ads?

Jordan shared the answers and her heart with us. Turns out they do have an agenda. “Our agenda is to rediscover the love story of Jesus. Christians, non-Christians, and everybody in between. All of us.”

Check out the ads for yourself at HeGetsUs.com.

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Do you, or does someone in your life, struggle with trust? Maybe you feel like you are constantly threatened, 24/7. You can’t even think about thriving, you’re just trying to survive. I think you’ll really connect with this conversation.

Tim Sanford is a licensed professional counselor and the Clinical Director of Counseling Services for Focus on the Family’s counseling department.

He is also a pastor, public speaker and the author of several books, the most recent being Forgive for Real: Six Steps to Forgiving.

Tim’s joins us to talk about RAD.

RAD (Reactive Attachment Disorder) means a child or adult is unable to trust you to meet their needs and can’t make a healthy attachment to you; their behavior tend to be impulsive rather than thinking through their actions. And their behaviors create a lot of disharmony, disorder, and chaos for the person with RAD and those around them.

The good news is it’s never too late to learn to trust. For a deeper dive check out this article on RAD by Tim Sanford. For an even deeper dive check out his book Inside: Understanding How Reaction Attachment Disorder Thinks and Feels.

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Jesus has made you new! And yet, you still have the “It’s all about me” nature living inside. What are we to do? Paul says, “Put your sin to death.” Perry shares what that looks like for him.

What is the difference between guilt and shame and conviction? Guilt is based on facts, shame is based on a feeling and conviction is a call to live into your true identity as one made in the image of God.

What is your purpose? Your calling? How easy is it to distract you from what you are called by God to do for His glory? We find encouragement in the story of Nehemiah who stayed the course no matter what.

“To live is Christ,” that’s life to the full. “To die is gain,” to see Jesus face to face will satisfy us forever. We can’t lose!

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Gen Z has a hunger for Jesus. One of the things that stand out about this generation is when they get a hold of Jesus they are all in. Fifty percent of those who have had a real encounter with Jesus are willing to consider going to the nations for their job.

As leaders gathered to pray over 200 American Cities to discern where there is already a move of God happening, Grand Rapids came up as #2 on their list.

Andy Byrd is part of the leadership of University of the Nations, YWAM Kona and is committed to the nations, and one of the leaders of The Send. He joins us in this episode to share how he was set free by the love of God and to share about The Send.

The Send exists to gather and mobilize Gen Z into their missional calling to reach every high school, university, nation and community around the world with the gospel. The Send is happening in Grand Rapids on Saturday, September 2 from Noon-10pm at Van Andel, Arena.

Also, when life is going well, we probably won't surrender to God. But when it's hard, we likely will. Shawna shares why the word “peace” means so much to her and how you can experience that peace. And Perry admits, "Busyness, and creating, and achieving, and succeeding gets in the way of my intimacy with God."

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Perry shares about being on a mission to rescue a suffering friend that he didn’t want to be a part of. And that’s when the Spirit said, “When you done it for the least of these, you’ve done it for me.”

If you had to make your way across a minefield would you turn down the opportunity to have a guide who knows where every land mine was buried? The decisions we make have really big consequences and Jesus is the guide we need to make it through to the other side alive and well.

Greg, a Jewish man had a vision of Jesus and the three words Jesus spoke to him, changed Greg forever. It’s the three words that will change us.

We all have the ability to get lost. Sometimes in our thinking we can veer off the path of truth. The only way to stay connected to truth is to read God’s Word regularly.

There is a glory in your life that the enemy fears. There are world-shaking works God has planned for you.

Long before you ever did anything right or anything wrong you were loved, perfectly loved.

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Brad & Marilyn Rhoads founded the ministry of Grace Marriage in 2015 to help churches and couples prioritize marriage.

Before pursuing marriage ministry full-time, Brad practiced law for 22 years and witnessed first-hand the breakdown of the family. He serves as marriage pastor at their local church. And he and his wife Marilyn, along with Brittany Cragg, co-authored the book The Grace Marriage; How the Gospel and Intentionality Transform Your Relationship.

Brad and Marilyn’s first fight of their marriage was at their wedding reception. From there, as Brad dove into practicing law he was primarily living for himself.

One day his Uncle Tom called and basically forced him to go to a marriage conference. He told Brad that even though he was a huge success he was failing. Brad had a revelation at that conference that changed his marriage and his life.

If you want to learn to move towards your spouse instead of away from them you’ll want to listen to this podcast and read this book.

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What shaped Paul’s life before his transformation? We reach out to Bible Scholar Brad Gray for the answer.

Brad Gray is the Founder of Walking the Text and the Host for the upcoming television show, The Sacred Thread. He is a national speaker, study trip leader, and Bible expert whose lifework has centered on helping people understand the original context of the Bible. He is the author of Make Your Mark: Getting Right What Samson Got Wrong.

Brad shares the significance of Paul’s upbringing, that he likely came from affluence and would have had a first class education. Paul eventually rejected the teaching of his rabbi Gamaliel because he wasn’t zealous enough. After Paul’s transformation there was a season of 6-10 years where he likely had to relearn the story of God before he went on his first missionary journey.

What does this have to do with you and me? God uses every part of our story for His glory. Nothing is wasted. But it doesn’t happen overnight. Don’t give up. Keep your eyes on Jesus and trust God for His plan.

Also in this episode, Perry admits” Sometimes I feel like a failure and a fraud.” And Shawna shares where she finds hope.

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When we are going through difficult times we may find ourselves asking: “Where is God in this?”, “Why isn’t He doing anything?”, “ What’s the point?” And “How could anything good possibly come of this?”

In Genesis 37-50 there is a story of a man named Joseph with God-given dreams for his future. He went from being his Father’s favorite son to being sold into slavery to being falsely accused and imprisoned before being promoted to Prime Minister.  I’m guessing he may have had some of those same questions.

In Joseph’s story we see that God was with Joseph, God was working in the waiting, and God was preparing Joseph for his next assignment.

God is with you in your time of suffering too. He is working in your waiting. And He is preparing you for your next assignment.

You can trust God for His presence, His timing, and His purpose in your life.

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Dr. Greg Smalley serves as the vice president of Marriage and Family Formation at Focus on the Family.

He says the one thing it takes to have a great marriage is creating a marriage that feels safe. Hearts only open when they feel safe. We feel safe when the people around us see us and appreciate us. Gratitude.

Gratitude starts with an awareness of what this person is doing that you appreciate. And gratitude is not just an attitude. It needs to be expressed. Tell your spouse that you are grateful, not just for what they do but for who they are.

If you’re in a season in your marriage where you can’t even think of one thing you are grateful for in your spouse, ask God to show you what He loves about your spouse. It could transform your marriage.

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Sexually transmitted diseases, sexual violence, addicts destroying themselves, crack-makers destroying others—A crack house is a horrible place. And our world is like this. We can try to isolate from the world’s evil, we can yell at it, we can become conformed to it. But the Jesus way is to move into it and rebuild it.

Then, the wound of shame that was planted in Perry’s heart when he was 8, that led to so much pain, that wound is now his friend. Really? Yep.

Next, Perry admits, “I find myself getting caught up in seeking the world’s approval. But I’ve learned that the world overpromises and underdelivers.” Last Joe, a Perry and Shawna listener shares how he thought he was Superman, then how God humbled and resurrected him through surrender to Jesus Christ. 

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J. Warner Wallace is a Dateline featured cold-case homicide detective, popular national speaker and best-selling author. He continues to consult on cold-case investigations while serving as a Senior Fellow at the Colson Center for Christian Worldview. He is also an adjunct professor of apologetics.

Up to 35 years old he was an atheist and came to believe in Jesus through the evidence he found reading through the gospels while using his skills as a detective. And today, he has a relationship with Jesus and God is using him in powerful ways to help other atheists see the evidence and reality of God.

In this episode J. Warner shares that believing the gospel is evidentially true and understanding how that truth impacts our lives is the superpower for living the Christian life.

If you are a skeptic, he understands where you are coming from and speaks directly to you. He states how research is revealing that the way of life Jesus calls us to will evidentially improve every area of our lives.

He shares strong encouragement for the Christian parent whose child is not walking with God. And shares that ultimate meaning in life is found in the truth of who God is and in relationship with him. A relationship that answers the question, “Who am I?” and, “Why am I here.”

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When our prayers don’t get answered we may wonder if something is wrong with me, God, or maybe I just didn’t pray the right words.

Steve Norman is a pastor, award-winning author, speaker and life coach who works with Winning at Home.  He joins us today to talk about prayer.

Sometimes our prayers are answered in an instant. Sometimes we need to keep praying even when there is no evidence that God is working. Sometimes God chooses not to answer our prayers the way we’d hoped. But all the time, God is listening, compassionate, and working on our behalf.

Also, in this episode, Perry admits, “My heart has been drifting into self-worship.” And Shawna gets honest about where she struggles to embrace change and that changes can be both good and hard.

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She yelled at, screamed at, and even shamed her Christian friends leaving them in tears. Then, God met the atheist in the back row of a broken church.

Alicia Britt Chole is a speaker, award-winning author, and mentor. Her voice cuts through the fluff and summons souls to walk with God anew.

She holds a doctorate in Leadership and Spiritual Formation from George Fox Seminary. Serves as the founding director and lead mentor of Leadership Investment Intensives, a nonprofit devoted to providing customized soul-care for leaders in business and ministry.

Alicia joins us to talk about her new book, The Night Is Normal: A Guide Through Spiritual Pain. We talk about cancer, the loss of a lifelong dream, disillusionment with God, self & others. And she gives us practical tools to help us navigate the night.

Shawna shares about a bible study assignment that became a precious moment with her heavenly Father and what He revealed to her as she walked and talked with God along the Lake Michigan lakeshore.

Then, not only did Jesus die for you. But you died with him. What does that even mean?? And last, we’ve all felt unwelcome, unwanted. There is a God who wants you. Chose you, even. Let’s live loved!

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Got Bible Questions?Dr. Grinnell joins us to answer them. Questions like, Can Satan tempt us by putting thoughts in our head? How do we love the LGBTQ community well? Does Isaiah 9:10 prophesy the events of 911?

How important is a daily, intimate relationship with God in the secret place and how does it affect my heart and mind? And last, “How do we know that Psalm 22 isn’t just referring to David?

Dr. Jeremy GrinnelI earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught theology at a local seminary for nearly 15 years.

Shawna went on vacation last week with great expectations that God would answer all her questions. Instead, God led her to scripture and settled her anxious heart with Himself. She shares how that happened.

Perry shares "Whenever I catch myself fearing God's judgment, I come back to the cross."

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Jeremy and Sarah are bible smugglers and church planters in the Muslim world. In June Jeremy took bibles into Northern Afghanistan (where no Americans have been since the Taliban took control) and Mecca, Saudi Arabia (where no Muslims are allowed).

Before the trip three different people who didn’t know each other warned Jeremy that he would be facing life-threatening danger. They prayed, talked to trusted mentors and God gave peace that Jeremy should risk his life for the sake of the gospel. As Jeremy and Sarah parted he said, “Jesus Is Worth It.”

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Abdiwelli Ahemed came from a long line of devout Muslims in Somalia. By the time Abdiwelli was in high school he was extremely zealous for Islam. But in 1993 in college, he started questioning Islam as he read the bible. The more he read, the more he fell in love with Jesus.

His life was speeding toward a decision that would change his life forever. Todd Nettleton of Voice of the Martyrs joins us to share Abdiwelli’s story, who from the first day he decided to follow Jesus said, “I am ready to die for Christ.”

And if you’re a parent and you want your kids to fall in love with the bible this summer, author Catherine Parks joins Perry with a conversation about What To Wear, a Kid’s Bible Study on Looking Like Jesus. This 8-week study on Colossians 3:1-14, will empower your 8- to 12-year-old kids to obey Jesus not to get his love, but to obey him because they are loved!

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On February 2nd, 1996, 16-year-old Saulo Montalvo and two of his friends pulled up to a party storein Grand Rapids, MI with a plan to take the money and the life of the clerk. In August 1996 Saulo was sentenced to spend the rest of his life in prison with no possibility of parole.

Saulo’s now free in Christ and free from prison and works with Mel Trotter Ministries. Mel Trotter Ministries is working to bring an end to homelessness one life at a time through the power of Jesus.

As a true wounded healer Saulo opens up his pain: he shares about the deep soul wound as a boy that led to incredible anger; the fateful day of the crime; crying out to Jesus after he was caught, being called into ministry through Moody Radio, how God works through our greatest failures, and his face-to-face meeting with the family of the party store clerk whose life was taken.

Please share this story of hope! Someone you know or don’t know, needs to hear it!

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Perry asked his son, "Taylor, do you believe God loves you?" It was painful but Taylor admitted, "No." And then, "Do you believe I love you?" And nearly as painful Taylor answered, "No.”

Perry’s son Taylor joins the team! Taylor’s working toward his MA in Counseling from Spring Arbor University. Taylor was raised in the way of Jesus and decided to follow him as a teenager. But in college he began wrestling with doubt. He wondered if any of what he had been taught and had believed for himself was true.

And a good part of that wrestling with doubt came from the blind spots that Perry and his bride Teresa had as they raised him. Join Perry and Taylor in this heart-to-heart conversation about wrestling with doubt, dad/son honesty, and reaching the place in your heart of hearts where you know God loves you.

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On December 19th, 2017, Jeremy Freeman got the call, “Sir, your sons have been in a car accident. How quickly can you get here?” The phone call no parent wants would lead to a miracle only God could give.

When Jeremy and Emily Freeman’s teenage son Caleb was in a devastating car accident, doctors gave him no chance to live the night of the accident, and a 10 percent chance to live after he made it through that night.

In #butGod Jeremy shares the incredible story of Caleb’s recovery, the darkness that nearly swallowed his family as they waited to see if Caleb would live, and the #butGod movement that captured the prayers of Jesus followers around the world.

Jeremy’s the lead pastor at First Baptist Church in Newcastle, Oklahoma. He and his miracle son Caleb travel the country sharing their story. Everything you might want to know about their journey is on FB at Pray for Caleb Freeman.

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Jared C. Wilson together with his wife Becky Wilson, have authored Go Outside & 19 other Keys to Thriving in your 20’s. Jared says those in their 20s are more willing to learn from the older generation than past generations have been.

In this episode Jared gets honest about the good and bad of his own 20s and he shares that one of the 19 keys to thriving is trying not to be the expert in the room.

Also in this episode: Shawna shares about a time when a good friend asked her, “What are you so afraid of?” Then, those with huge doubts need massive kindness.

Next, as believers do we stand out or blend in? Jesus said we should be identified by the way we love. And last, Perry wonders, “How can I make it to the city of light when there are such powerful sinful motives in my heart trying to destroy me?”

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When Child Protective Services knocked on her door to investigate her as a parent she was overwhelmed with fear. That wasn’t the only time in her life that Sarah felt overwhelmed. She remembers another moment when she considered taking her life.

Life is hard. In her new book All Who Are Weary: Finding True Rest by Letting Go of the Burdens You Were Never Meant to Carry Sarah J. Hauser shares that even when life is falling apart we can bring our heavy burdens to Jesus and truly find rest for our souls.

Also, in this episode: Perry admits, “I’ve let some recent successes go to my head.”Perry & Shawna talk about what prayer is and what it isn’t, and persistence in prayer. And, the path to a deeper passion for Jesus is pain.

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Have you ever spent time with someone and felt like you’ve been with Jesus? When Shawna and her husband Dan got married they had the privilege of serving in a church under the leadership of a seasoned couple, Cecil & Arlene Martens.

They had such deeply rooted love relationship with Jesus that being with them was like being with Him. “I want to be like them when I grow up.”

Singer-songwriter Brandon Heath found himself spiraling into a really dark place in the past 2 years. And at the root of it all was a deep father wound that could only be healed with forgiveness.

As those who have been so generously forgiven we are called to generously forgive. Choosing to forgive is trusting that God will be just in the way he deals with those who’ve hurt us. And Perry, whose mom went to heaven in 2020 gets to hear her voice again!

John Van Sloten is a Calgary-based writer, teacher, and pastor who is passionate about helping people engage God everywhere. He joins us to talk about his newly released book God Speaks Science: What Neurons, Giant Squid, and Supernovae Reveal About Our Creator.

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This is how Perry's been feeling lately. When deep feelings like these come, there's only one way to not be swallowed by them!

Does the mention of Jesus’ name stir affection in your heart? If not, tell him. An honest conversation may be just what you need to get a fresh start. Everything in your life depends on the quality of your relationship with God.

Jeff, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener, is wrestling. His uncle just passed, and he doesn't know where he's ended up. Perry and Shawna have some words of encouragement. 

Do you ever wrestle with the generosity of others? The best way to express your gratitude for their generosity is to accept their free gift. The same is true with God.  Galatians 5:1 says: “Christ has set us free to live a free life.” Instead of trying to earn it or pay Him back, live free!

If you have doubts about your security in God's family, you're not weird, you're not the only one. Perry has these feelings as well and shares how he finds security in the midst of his fears.

Jesus said He is the truth. He also said His true disciples will know the truth and the truth will set them free. The more we ask God, through His Holy Spirit, to control our minds the more we will live in the truth and experience the freedom Jesus spoke of.

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Addiction tears marriages and families apart. To Those Left Behind: Helping Partners and Families Understand and Heal From Addictions is a compassionate and practical guide for the partners and families of addicts.

Author, Travis Thompson, is a licensed family and marriage therapist offering a therapeutic perspective on addiction and its impact on those around the addict. His experience & wisdom will help you walk this difficult road in the healthiest way.

Also, in this episode: Is holding a sign calling the LGBTQ+ community to repent the best way to call them to repentance? Perry doesn’t think so.

How’s your love relationship with God? Does the mention of his name stir affection in your heart? It’s out of your relationship with God that everything else flows. Nothing matters more than your relationship with God.

If someone close to you has passed into eternity and that thought terrifies you because you don’t know where they ended up, Perry and Shawna have some encouragement for you.

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Seth had landed his dream job and was living comfortably in West Michigan when 1 fact changed his whole life. Here it is: There are 3 billion unreached people around the world! Seth immediately and regularly began praying for them. His prayers led him to spend a year in Mexico training to go to Central Asia to live among a Muslim people group and share the love of Jesus!

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Have you ever dreamt of walking where Jesus walked? If you’ve ever longed to take a trip to Israel you are going to love this conversation with Sheila Walsh. In all her travels she had never been to Israel, until now.

Her television TBN series My First Trip to Israel with Sheila Walsh is an opportunity to experience Israel for the first time with Sheila Walsh. It airs on TBN on Wednesdays at 9:30pm ET.

Sheila shares what she expected, what she experienced, and how it was so life shifting.

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So many good questions in this episode:

How do you know what God wants you to do if there’s no chapter and verse in the bible with a clear answer?

Perry shares how God is asking him to push pause on his music & challenges us to ask the question, “Do you love God more than anything?”

Do you ever wake up on Monday morning & wish it was Friday?

Our attempts to meet our need for pleasure in our possessions &  in people only let us down. What does Psalm 16:11 have to say about getting that need met?

At our best we’re not good enough. At our worst we’re not bad enough. Wait, What?!

Over the weekend a bad memory from 33 years ago came to mind. What do you do when the enemy brings up your past?

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Yarian Rosado, Worship Pastor at Engedi Church in Holland, joins us to share the riveting stories behind the new songs on Engedi Music’s new album A.S.K.

Enjoy the live concert experience of these amazing songs! A.S.K. (Ask, Seek, Knock), Did It Before, Body To Praise, Following You.

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Singer, songwriter, Evan Craft has an honest conversation with us about not getting caught up in what the world views as success and keeping our hearts in the right place before God. Put another way—how to deal with our counterfeit gods.

Evan Craft is a chart-topping bilingual global recording artist releasing music in Spanish & English. With 1.6 billion global streams and 53 million views, Evan’s music resonates with a wide audience.

His talent took him from YouTube artist to the top of the billboards Charts. You probably know his recent hits …“Be Alright”, “Fight On My Knees”, and “Desperado”. He’s releasing a brand new album and heading out on a nationwide tour this fall.

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Will We Know Who The Beast Is?

Got Bible Questions? Dr. G has answers!

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell earned his Ph.D. in Systematic Theology at Calvin Seminary and taught theology for nearly 15 years at Cornerstone Theological Seminary.

He’s written a powerful book about his own story entitled The Bellowing of Cain. He joins us to answer your bible questions. Questions like, “Will we know who the beast is? Will we recognize the mark? How do we warn people of that now?”

Yeah, that’s where we start! And Dr. Grinnell takes it all on like a champ.

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In this episode we have the privilege of speaking with Myna Mwaura. He’s a freelance writer and journalist who has interviewed over 500 influential leaders, including two US Presidents, three Vice-Presidents, and a variety of others. He has learned what it takes to not only lead well, but to mentor well.

Myna’s new book on mentoring is The Influential Mentor: How the Life and Legacy of Howard Hendricks Equipped and Inspired a Generation of Leaders.

If you knew about his childhood and his lifelong personal struggles you wouldn’t expect him to become such a powerful influence. Howard Hendricks story is a reminder of a truth he believed at the core of his being: God can do anything at any time. You’ll be challenged by this conversation to believe that God can use you in powerful ways, if you fully surrender your life to Him.

Also, Shawna gets real about a recent journey from stressed to resting in God’s love and plan.

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How much would it change our lives if we could wrap our minds around that one simple truth? We are not in control. And if we could somehow slow down the rapid pace of life. Shawna shares a prayer we can pray daily to remind us how we are called to live.

Coming off of Father’s Day weekend Scott shares some deep insights he’s learned in his role as a father.

Shawna always wants God to give her the full layout of the plan but is learning that God doesn’t give us a roadmap because Jesus is the map. All we need to do is follow Him.

Is there spiritual clutter in your life? Perhaps it’s time for some spiritual housecleaning.

Paul encouraged the youth not to let their age be a hindrance. The question for you and me is: Are we allowing our youth to rise up as Christ followers and teach us?

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Feel like you are in a rut in your relationship with God? We’ve all been there.

Lisa Anderson, director of Boundless & young adults at Focus on the Family, has been there too. In fact, she wrote an article about it. It’s called 8 Simple Ways to Boost Your Faith This Year. Find creative ways to fan the flame of your first love with God in our conversation.

Also, the Lord has been showing Perry lately that He’s feeling some sadness toward him. Why is God feeling this way?

Lastly, you have a good Father who wants to communicate with you. As you learn to hear His voice He will guide you in life.

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“I can’t!” Have you ever said these words to God? You’re not alone. We celebrate Esther’s bravery when she said, “If I perish, I perish” before boldly coming before the king. But that wasn’t her first response to the opportunity to save her people.

Tessa Afshar, author & speaker, joins us in this episode to talk about the things in our life that inform our “I can’t” and the beautiful opportunity and great need for us to attach ourselves to God.

Dr. Erez Soref, President of One For Israel, also joins us in this episode to share with us powerful ways God is moving in Israel right now!

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Chris, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener went to Meijer right after he and Perry met up on Saturday at Starbucks and he came away with way more than his groceries. He came away with an unexpected encounter with a stranger whose prayers breathed hope into Chris’s weary soul.

Then Chris shares the story of Russ Taff whose deep father wounds were healed by the prayers of a dying man. Next, do you ever feel like God is going to crush you? Then, if you’re a try harder, I can do better, over achiever person, like Perry, only the Father’s love and the gospel will give rest to your burned-out soul!

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The summer months can bring changes to our routine. Whether it’s the kids not being home or traveling, our time with the Lord is probably going to look different over the next few months, and that’s okay!

Asheritah Ciuciu is an author, speaker, and blogger. She grew up in Romania as a missionary kid and studied English and Women’s Ministry at Cedarville University in Ohio. Her Passion is helping women find joy in Jesus through a deeper walk with God.

In this episode Asheritah shares creative, meaningful ways to feed your soul in connecting with God.

Also, in honor of Father’s Day, Shawna shares a time when she felt her heavenly Father’s love through her earthly dad and the most significant thing her dad passed on to her.

God loves you, more than you can imagine, and He longs to spend time with you.

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Matt Hammitt is a singer, songwriter, author, and speaker. Matt was the lead singer for the band Sanctus Real from 1996-2016. He has been the recipient of three Dove Awards and has been nominated for two Grammy Awards, for his work with Sanctus Real. Matt has written over fifteen chart topping songs, performed by Sanctus Real and other musical artists.

Matt is partnering with Save the Storks to launch Dare to be a Dad, a resource to help men take a courageous first step toward becoming the dad they are meant to be by facing their imperfections and admitting, “I don’t have it all together, but I’m willing to change and grow with you.”

In this episode Matt shares about the encouragement for dad’s through Dare to be a Dad, how Save the Storks is saving lives, and about God leading him out of his role as lead singer for Sanctus Real back home to his family.

Also, in this episode Perry & Shawna talk about how we view our heavenly Father, the role trust plays in our obedience to Him, and our need for a fresh infilling of the Holy Spirit.

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Every day we are faced with a battle of what our minds will be consumed by and engaged with. How do we actually grow in the Christian life?

Coleman M. Ford is an author, teacher, and speaker who serves as Assistant Professor of Humanities at Texas Baptist College in Fort Worth, Texas. In today’s episode we talk about his book Formed In His Image: A Guide For Christian Formation.

We talk about what true happiness is, our deep need for real friendship, the role of suffering in our formation, and the key to winning the battle over idols and temptation.

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Have you ever come face to face with someone determined, at all costs, to prove they were right? Mike has.

In this episode Mike Donehey, best known for his role as front man for the band Tenth Avenue North, shares stories from his own life at home & on the road with the band and he paints a picture of how to love people you disagree with. As he does, he plants seeds of hope that we really can love like Jesus, even with people we disagree with.

Mike Donehey is also a best selling author! In this episode he talks about his book Grace In The Gray: A More Loving Way To Disagree.

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Courtney Moore’s new book Women & Work: Bearing God’s Image & Joining In His Mission Through Our Work will be available June 13!

In this episode Courtney shares with us God’s plan for work in our lives, how men & women can work together for God’s glory, and how we all have great worth and contribution to make as those made in God’s image.

Also, Perry shares the brokenness in him that still needs healing, Shawna shares some wisdom found in an article by Hallie Harrington on how Paul shows us that there is such a thing as godly conflict (2 Corinthians 7:8-10a), and Perry shares that every innocent life ever taken calls out for justice, except one.

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Here’s some of what we cover in today’s episode:

  • Do you ever wish you had the faith of a Bible hero? Maybe you do! Abraham had some shaky moments when his faith was weak and yet that’s not at all how we remember Him. The moment you’re in does not define your faith.
  • In Galatians 5 Paul paints a clear picture of the contrast between compulsions of selfishness & walking in step with the Spirit. In order to follow Jesus, you have to unfollow the world.
  • What if Jesus challenged you to give up the thing you value the most? Does your affection for Him outweigh any other affection?
  • Are you living with intention? Esther had 2 qualities that allowed her to navigate life threatening situations with great discernment. Who knows but that you have come to your position for such a time as this.

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When the threat of another potential shut down surfaced Marina reached out for community. That gathering led to hearts on fire to reach our youth with the truth of who they are in Christ.

Marina Hofman, PhD, Award-winning author of Women In The Bible Small Group Bible Study, joins us in this episode to share what our youth need the most and how you and I can share the truth that they are seen and valued.

Also, in this episode:

Can a secular song point out a spiritual truth? Shawna shares how this happened for her last week.

Is there a cure for Perry’s massive insecurity? Perry shares his answer.

When was the last time you thought about how much God enjoys being with you?

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It’s not wrong to want to belong. We were created to belong.

That’s what this episode is all about! Our own desire to belong and creating a loving place for others to belong so we can all become who God created us to be.

Sharen Ford is a nationally recognized child welfare consultant - currently serving as the Director for Foster Care and Adoption at Focus on the Family. She joins us to share about the incredible opportunity we have to participate in reconciliation through Foster Care.

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Do you long for God’s activity in your life? Do you want to hear His voice? Sometimes hearing how He works in the lives of others helps us to see His hand and hear His voice in our lives too.

My big sister, Jody, joined me this morning to share how God has so clearly and lovingly led her through the years, including writing in the sky.

Jody Gras is the Director of Adult Discipleship and Leadership at Emmanuel Reformed Church in Paramount, California. She’s a speaker and podcast host of “Real Sisters, Real Talk,” where we talk about growing in our faith. 

I’m not gonna lie. This might be the most fun I’ve ever had with a guest.

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Schools out for summer! More time with our children is an incredible opportunity to give them a gift that will serve them well their entire lives. Resilience!

Emilie DeYoung, clinical director of Counseling Services at Winning at Home, holds a PhD in psychology with an emphasis on child and adolescent counseling and a master’s degree in social work. And we just love her!

She joins us today to share with us three things we can do to help build resilience in our children.

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Imagine that there is something in your past that you’d like to leave there. You’re not who you used to be. You want better.

That was Sammy’s story. He met Jesus in solitary confinement and God changed His heart. Sammy joins us to share his journey toward a better life and how the obstacles he faced when he was released from prison led him to what he does today.

Sammy Perez leads Prison Fellowship’s grassroots program to build and mobilize a network of Christians who are passionate about justice that restores.

As you hear Sammy’s story, ask the Lord how he might use you to help give someone with a past a second chance.

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Charity East learned a lot about who she is after being diagnosed with cancer at 39 years old in January of 2022. She’s a wife, mom, personal trainer, bus driver, and she’s really good at all of it!

When her diagnosis led to 6 surgeries and 20 rounds of chemotherapy all of that was stripped away and she found herself feeling like she was losing her identity and her value.

But God! As He walks with her through her physical healing He’s also healing her soul – reminding her where her value has always come from as His beloved.  

Hear Charity’s story and let God speak to you about yours as you listen.

To God be the glory!

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There are a lot of people who only know enough about God to be mad at Him. “What would it look like to be made with God?”

That’s the question Megan B. Brown asked as she shared Psalm 23 for the very first time with another military spouse. She went on to share Psalm 22. You’ll have to listen to this episode to hear what happened but I’ve just got to say, people are hungry for truth and love!

Megan Brown, is a seasoned military spouse, mother, Bible teacher, and military missionary. She’s also the author of Know What You Signed Up For. You’re gonna love her!

Also in today’s episode Shawna says, “The Holy Spirit isn’t weird, people are weird” as she shares about the normal activity of the Holy Spirit in our every day lives.

Perry breaks down the Ben Affleck and Matt Damon film Air and what it says about American culture.

And they have a conversation about Jesus being the light when all other lights go out.

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Ken Harrison was doing the going-to-church, reading-your-bible, being-kind-to-strangers, comfortable, going-through-the-motions Christian life. Until a jet sky accident put him on his back in an emergency room with the doctor saying, “Your liver is damaged beyond repair, you have five hours to live.”

As he lay on that gurney he thought, “If I survive this and I’m ever facing just hours to live, I want to walk into Jesus’ presence knowing I poured out my life to bring Jesus’ love to my world. I never want to waste another moment.”

It was the wake-up call Ken needed. Ken’s the CEO of Promise Keepers and author of the award-winning book, A Daring Faith in a Cowardly World: Live a Life Without Waste, Regret, or Anything Unfinished. He shares his riveting story and his hard-won lessons that point us to a life that’s bold, sacrificial, humble, risky. One that brings Jesus’ kingdom to earth as it is in heaven.

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At some point in your life you will come to the end of yourself. Maybe that time is now. You feel overwhelmed. You don’t have what it takes.

Brian Aulick, lead pastor of Engedi Church,  says we all face things that feel too big for us. He goes on to say,  “It’s not just enough to believe God raised Jesus from the dead, you have to learn to rely on God’s resurrection power in your life.”

We talk about what that looks like in scripture and in our own lives.

Knowing God has our back empowers us to fall into fear.

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How many times has someone asked you, “How are you?” and you said, “I’m okay” when you were most definitely not okay?

Deep inside we carry wounds from our past – things that have been done to us that were wrong & things we did that we should not have. The enemy of our souls uses pain, anger & shame to hold us captive.

Dean VanderMey, Executive Director of Set Free Ministries, joins us to share that there is hope and freedom in Christ.

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Elliott Carpenter and his wife, along with their two children, moved to Central Asia four years ago to share the love of God with the locals. They began to pray and ask God, “How can we come alongside the people here with practical help and share the gospel with them?”

God answered that prayer in the most unlikely way. Elliott shares the strategy God gave them, key connections they’ve made, and their future hopes as they implement the plan.

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Remember that moment in your life when you felt that you did not belong? Me too! It’s so painful. That pain continues to impact how we feel about ourselves and how we show up in the world. 

Heather Holleman, professor at Penn State, speaker and author joins us to talk about her new book This Seat’s Saved. It’s a story of a middle school girl named Elita, her moment of rejection, discovering the truth about who she is, and how that impacts her relationships, her experiences, her life really. 

Yes, it’s Elita’s story. But it’s also mine, and yours. In it you will find healing for your own heart. 

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“Do our resurrected bodies have belly buttons?”

“What do we do with the stories in the bible that are full of evil, like the girls being brought before the King in the book of Esther?”

“If one day is like 1000 years to God does that mean it took God 6000 years to create our world?”

“How do we explain to atheists the different gospel accounts about what happened when Jesus died and resurrected?”

Dr. Jeremy Grinnell, author of The Bellowing of Cain, has a PhD in Systematic Theology from Calvin & taught at Cornerstone Theological Seminary. He joins us to answer these(your) Bible questions and more.

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You were created for joy! We have the brain science to prove it.

Pastor & counselor, Chris Coursey, author of The 4 Habits of Joy-Filled People, is our guest for this episode.

Chris shares with us what the 4 habits are, why they work(according to the science) and the hacks that lead to a more connected and satisfying life.

I promise you will learn something new today and you’ll be “glad” you did. (See what I did there?) 😉

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We cover a lot of different topics on today’s episode:

Even within his own family there are different opinions about immigration, but what does Perry think? He shares his passionate opinion in this episode.

Feel like a victim to the algorithms? Learn how to take control and set the algorithms in your life.

You are uniquely gifted to show the world who God is through how God made you.

The storms of life change us. It could be a change for our good.

How does 1 & 2 Samuel show us the gospel? Find out in this episode.

Enjoy! We’re glad you’re here!

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What?? Let me explain. Jay Riemersma, Executive Director of Gateway Mission and former NFL tight end for the Buffalo Bills and Pittsburgh Steelers grew up in West Michigan going to church twice on Sunday and once during the week, (Twicers Plus One)!

He thought he was good with God until his Sunday school teacher said, “Jay you can be in church 24/7/365 and not know Jesus.” Then, Jay was a big man on campus, playing football for the University of Michigan, with plenty of ego when God humbled him big time.

Next, if God has put a dream in your heart but it seems it’ll never happen, Jay relates, and has encouragement on what to do next. Then, Shawna used to think that when something bad happened, it canceled out all the good. Not anymore. She’s learning the power of “Also!” Last, we’re all crack heads. What? Yep.

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Jess Jasperse, Family Ministry Catalyst at Gun Lake Community Church, brought legit wisdom to our conversation on obedience. In this episode, hear how to shift your perspective on doing what God tells you to from dread to joy. Learn to say “Yes” to God in joyful obedience.

Also, Lisa Anderson - Executive Director at Grace’s Table – joins us to talk about her journey of becoming a mom at 17 & God’s beautiful work through Grace’s Table, a ministry she founded in 2014 to create a safe place for teen mothers as they transition from adolescence into motherhood. Check out Grace's Table here.  

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What does your closet look like right now? What difference does it make? Nobody else goes in your closet. The kitchen is clean, the front room is guest ready, but the closet, the secret place, is a complete mess.

Paula Jauch, author of Cross Addicted: Breaking Free From Family Trauma & Addiction, says “God wants to clean your closet,”

God wants to heal the places you aren’t dealing with. If you are willing to get honest before God & do the work, God will heal you, show you who you really are, and use your story to help others on their own path.

It may just be time to clean your closet.

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Is God faithful? Really? Because there are a lot of circumstances in life that cause us to wonder.

Jon Bloom, author of True To His Word: 100 Meditations on the Faithfulness of Godjoins us to talk about what the faithfulness of God looks like in the Bible and in our own lives.

Today both Perry and Shawna share about the struggle to believe, really believe, and live into the faithfulness of God.

If you have questions about God’s faithfulness, listen to today’s episode with an open heart to hear & find the faithfulness of God, especially in the places you may not typically look.

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If you wrestle with pride, obedience, forgiving yourself, remembering God is with you, shame, confessing your sin, and/or being an ambassador for Christ, there is something for you in today’s podcast. Enjoy! We’re glad you’re here!

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Conflict. It’s part of being human. It exists even within the church, among believers. But, we are called to be extensions of God’s grace in the midst of conflict. How? Dan Darling, has written a whole book about it. He’s author of Agents of Grace: How To Bridge Divides & Love As Jesus Loves. He joins us with some great wisdom on when and how to resolve conflict.

Then guess who pops in the studio? The new leader of Moody Radio, Wes Ward. We talk about the gospel – it’s not just the message you heard when you gave your life to Jesus, it’s how we live. He shares how principles to live by are the framework of His life & shares some real gold with Perry on how to combat perfectionism.

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Got Curious Kids? Eddie & Lauren Cuevas, hosts of a new Moody Radio podcast, CarSeat Questions, join the team. With a new episode dropping every Wednesday, Carseat Questions is a conversation with experts on how to answer our kids questions in a biblically accurate, age appropriate way.

If you ever wonder if God is considering kicking you out of the family, Perry has a super encouraging verse for you.

Shawna feels unsettled when she doesn’t know what to expect. There is a verse that has been a huge encouragement to her. She shares it with you in today’s episode.

Thanks for spending some time with us! 😊

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Adam Davis, author of Unconquered: 10 Principles to Overcome Adversity and Live Above Defeat shares his own story of childhood trauma and how carrying that pain & hurt as an adult led him to want to take his own life. God intervened with His great love. You are not a prisoner to your past. Adam’s book is a key to finding your healing and living in the love of God.

Also, in today’s episode Perry and Shawna talk about God’s message to His people, through the prophet Ezekiel, to remove their hearts of stone and to give them hearts of flesh. Shawna shares some personal convictions about preparing her heart for worship on Sunday mornings. And Perry shares what our creed is as Christians.

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Perry shares some of his ugliest moments—when he was scarred by shame at 8, how he’s scarred others with sin, the 2 miscarriages he and Teresa had. And yet God promises to turn these moments into stunning beauty in the age to come. And even some on this side!

Then maybe you’re doubting you’re safe in God’s family. Next, Shawna shares her struggles putting her hope in better circumstances. But she knows the remedy. Then, the great news of being in the great sinners club.

Next, Shawna’s found life’s greatest treasure, even better than reunions with her deeply treasured children. Last, Hillary Scott cried out, “Thy will be done,” when she lost her child through miscarriage. Share this episode if you’re encouraged by it!

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Our friend, Neal Karsten of Big Life, joins us. Neal grew up in West Michigan. He was leading a bible study at a Christian College. He thought he was a Christian, but He wasn’t. God showed him the weight of his sin and he encountered the Holy Spirit. That led to a life surrendered to God and His mission.

We talked about the goodness of the person of the Holy Spirit, the spiritual nourishment of obedience, and the importance of responding to God in a timely manner.

We also talked about the drastic change in deeply committed believers from 2020 to 2023(according to Barna), and igniting viral movements of the gospel through house churches.

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Shawna was complaining to a friend about her circumstances when her friend dropped a bomb on her. “What do you want?” she asked. There’s risk involved in naming it. What if we identify it and it never happens? That’s just one of the conversations we had today.

We talked about crossroads in life and how it requires humility to choose the right path.

We talked about real anxiety and real solutions, how fear keeps us from stepping into what God has for us, the blessing of reading the Bible, & the power of prayer.

What didn’t we talk about?!!!

Enjoy! We’re glad you’re here!

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Alli Patterson, author of How to Stay Standing, had an affair in her 20’s. When she felt like her whole world was about to fall apart she had this thought, “What would happen if I just told the truth?”  Hear Alli’s story and let God speak to your own life in today’s episode.

Also, Perry challenges us to own our stuff and experience freedom in repentance. Shawna opens up about her battle to believe God IS her defender.

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How do you deal with suffering? Do you ignore your negative feelings? Do you numb yourself with busyness, shopping, alcohol, etc.? What if, instead of running from the pain, we ran to God? What if we shared our feelings with Him? What if we invited Him into that space of hurting, disappointment and hopelessness?

David Doerner & Cody Mahaffy of Frontline Church join us to share their own experiences with suffering and what they’ve learned from it. 

Experiencing God’s presence in the midst of the hard things might just be the very thing we need to see us through them.  

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Jesse Bradley is the lead pastor of Grace Community in the greater Seattle area. God used his passion for soccer, people and Jesus to bring nearly a half million people into His forever family. Listen to today’s episode to find out how!

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Maybe you memorized The Lord’s Prayer as a kid or recite it before you eat a meal. No big deal. But what if The Lord’s Prayer is actually an invitation from God not just to pray His will but to actually live into it? Becky Harling, author of Our Father: A Study of the Lord’s Prayer, A Six Week Bible Study, shares the Lord’s Prayer is an opportunity to see the Father for who He really is and to love and trust Him even more.

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We want our kids to know and love God. How do we share with them who He is in a way that they will understand? In a way that will lead them to a personal relationship with Him that endures? Caroline Saunders, author of the children’s books The Story of Water & The Story of Home, suggests sharing with our kids about the hard stuff in our own lives can be an opportunity to share the good news of Jesus for us and them.  

Listen to the full podcast for more rock solid advice on passing on your faith to your kids. You can connect with Caroline at WriterCaroline.com.

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Dan Seaborn of Winning At Home joins the team! Dan has shared wisdom on faith and family for decades. Right now, more than ever before, he feels the one thing he must do every time he speaks is “speak Jesus clearly.” As he does, he’s seeing young adults down to kids hungry for the truth.

Like Paul’s wisdom to Timothy, Dan encourages us to “preach the word” in the way that we live each day. Knowing who we are as God’s kids is foundational to living with and for Him. As parents who love and follow God, we want our kids to love and follow God too. We aren’t perfect parents but God can use us even where we fail to draw our kids to Him. And though we can point our kids to Jesus each of them will eventually have to make that decision for themselves. It’s the grace of God that trains us to live for Him.

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World Mission’s CEO, Greg Kelley, joins us to share stories of God moving in the middle east. In his recent trip to Afghanistan and Pakistan, Greg shared the gospel again and again with people who have never heard it before, and the most unexpected people are being touched and changed by the Holy Spirit.

At a visit to a slum, where people literally live off of garbage, they baptized over 50 people in one day. At another location a young man from the Taliban accepted Jesus Christ as Lord and presented his gun to Greg as a sign of his transformation.

A woman who had been abused as a slave in a brick kiln returned to the place where the abuse happened to share how Jesus set her free. These are just a few of the stories Greg shares with us in this conversation. There’s more! “Mark my words,” Greg says, “5 years from now, we will hear stories of revival in Afghanistan”.

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Christina Aulick, Global Missions Pastor at Engedi church joins us today to challenge us. (I love it!)

Deuteronomy 4:24 says, “For the Lord our God is a consuming fire, a jealous God.” God is jealous for you in the best way. He wants all of your affection. To rule and reign in every area of your life. In our desire to control, well, everything, we usually prefer Him to be a fire that we can contain, like on the wick of a nicely fragranced candle. But He’s not content with that. He wants all of you. And He wants you to have all of Him. The questions is, will you let Him have all of you?

Bonus material:

Jesus loves you enough to have the difficult conversations with you.

Even when you aren’t aware of God’s presence He’s with you.

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There are moments when the darkness seems to be closing in - when we wonder if God  knows or even cares. In the midst of the darkness we can’t see our way out. In those moments there are all kinds of things we turn to for comfort, for relief, or just to turn our brains off and not think about it for a little while.

There is only one place, one person, who can provide what our souls need in the darkness. He’s the light. His name is Jesus. If you are in the dark today, join us for some honest conversations and some true encouragement. And know this, you’re going to be ok. Share this show if it encourages you!

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Perry has spent a lot of blood, sweat, and tears trying to be a better person. But none of that striving has ever changed his heart. Any real change in his life has come from grace. A conversation about the massive difference between religion and the gospel. Then, what are we to do with our darkest secrets and most scary skeletons? Come to the throne of grace!

Next, you can have an unshakeable life even when your world is falling apart. Then, don’t run from the worst parts of your story. Next, surrendering to God’s will when the way ahead is really hard. Last, Jesus says to you, “Whether you fail, or I fail, it’s on me!” A conversation about God’s unshakeable covenant.

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Perry’s feeling overwhelmed lately with challenges that are too big and fires that he can’t put out. God is once again humbling him, bringing him to the end of his strength and to the beginning of God’s.

Then, Shawna’s has needed to defend herself from being taken advantage of and this has caused her to take a defensive posture in every relationship. But she’s beginning to break free from past patterns because she knows more deeply than ever that God is her defender!

Next, only the armor of God can protect us from an unseen enemy who knows how to take us out. We take a look at how each piece of armor in Ephesians 6 will help us be invincible against our enemy. Then, we need people who point us to Jesus more than we need oxygen!

Last, there are life-giving treasures to be mined in God’s word. And Moody Bible Institute Professor Jim Coakley shows us how to mine them as we talk about his new book, 14 Fresh Ways to Enjoy the Bible.

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Dr. Christianson was teaching a required religion course to bored college freshmen at a small college. How could he communicate the gospel to them in a way to turn their yawns into jaw-dropping astonishment. That’s when he got an idea. Could it work?? By the end of class, students were in tears.

Then, a Perry muses: “I think of all my failures. So many. Yet God loves me unconditionally. How can he do that??” Next, if our culture is persuading you to believe you’re missing out. If the enemy is telling you, “God is holding out on you,” it’s time for a reset. Last, the book of Judges ends with one of the bible’s most horrific stories. Why? It points to Jesus. 

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This is what Perry’s asking himself. “In a conflict or even when I’m accused why do I dig my heals in and try to win or even tear down my accuser?” It has everything to do with where we find our identity.

Then, if you’ve wandered from God and it’s been a while since you’ve been close, maybe you’re wondering if he’ll take you back, maybe you’re wondering if you can ever be useful for God again. Next, our world does power with the fist. Jesus does power with a cross.

Then, in America we want resurrection power with no cross. But that’s not the way of Jesus. Last, if you know Jesus, there’s no need to fear judgment because your judgment day happened at the cross!

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It was one of those ordinary moments when suddenly Perry felt prompted by the Spirit to put his hand on his kids, Kali and Taylor, and pray, “Jesus give my kids your Holy Spirit.” And Jesus heard that prayer!

Jesse Florea joins the team to talk about raising kids who know and follow Jesus. Jesse’s the editor of Focus on the Family’s Clubhouse Magazine and Clubhouse Jr Magazine. He also co-hosts the Official Adventures in Odyssey Podcast.

First, as a parent we have the greatest influence on our kids, and they need to see our faith. Then, your kids need to see you wrestling with your faith. Next, Jesse’s dad was a drug dealer, but Jesse saw his mom pursue Jesus and that’s all it took for him to cross the line of faith.

Then, two faith resources you need to get for your kids yesterday! Last, Jesus has set us free from the prison of sin. And though we may stumble and fall he will keep on setting us free!

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Perry shares a moment of pure selfishness when he deeply wounded the heart of one of his best friends and how the cross speaks to that moment in his life. Then, when God asked Perry to give away his prized Ovation guitar. Next, “Never in my life did I expect grace.”

Then, Christianity gives us a God with scars, a God who bleeds, a God who is with us. Next, the poisonous danger of religion. Last, when Jesus was lying in the tomb he was resting from his completed work of salvation. And because Jesus rested, we can rest.

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This is what Perry admits. And it shows up in his obsessive need to confess sins he’s already confessed or to write them down in detail. And he realizes that in these moments he’s not trusting that Jesus paid it all.

Then, joy doesn’t come from circumstances but from the Presence of God! Next, it’s really wise to not put any Christian leader on a pedestal. It’s even more wise not to let anyone put you there. Then, sometimes Perry doubts the goodness of God but there’s one thing that always answers his doubts.

Next Rob West, host of Faith and Finance Live shares how Jesus used his sister’s death when he was 12 to bring him into God’s family. Last, making sure were not keeping others from worshipping Jesus.

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We’re natural worriers. But the Bible says not to get worked up about what may or may not happen tomorrow. In fact, the bible tells us to rest in God’s provision real time & if something difficult shows up God will be there then to help us -  just like he’s here now.  The answer to all that is wrong in the world is found in keeping our eyes on Jesus. Which is a privilege in and of itself. God is holy but made a way for us, sinful as we are, to be with Him through Jesus Christ, the ultimate sacrifice for our sins. This week we celebrate the victory over death on the cross and in Jesus’ resurrection from death to life. Are you ready? How are you preparing your heart for Easter?

*Scott Curtis fills in for Perry this morning.

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This is what Shawna admits has been going on in her mind. It’s the human struggle. But because of the Spirit we’re fighting a battle we CANNOT lose. It’s a conversation about how we break free from the thoughts that are tearing us down.

Then, Perry’s trying to make sense of the Nashville shootings. There’s just one thing that’s helping him. Next, Shawna’s dad’s birthday was Tuesday. His 2nd in heaven. It’s been hard. It’s been good. And “His Story,” the song Shawna’s daughter Haven wrote has been really helping.

Then, Perry admits, “I can be so thick-headed and driven and intense that I miss how God is trying to help me!” Last, who are you at your core?  A wretch? Perry and Shawna think it’s something else. It’s a conversation about our core identity and how God feelsabout us.

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5-year-old Lizzy stepped into a retired woman’s backyard and asked, “Will you play with me?” And the woman said, “I’m busy!” And the little girl said, “I’m Lizzy!” With that interruption the woman and Lizzy were changed forever!

Dr. Gary Chapman best-selling author of The 5 Love Languages joins us to share stories from his new book, Love Is a Choice: 28 Extraordinary Stories of the 5 Love Languages in Action. The first story is about little Lizzy and the busy woman, and the transforming power of quality time.

Then, how do you love a monster? Next, how do you forgive a Nazi who brutalized you? Then, Tamara’s love for a stranger with HIV. Next, in a conflict we’ll only listen for 17 seconds before we interrupt. There’s gotta be a better way!

Then, how to love someone’s who’s inconsolable. Next, loving the one you want to AVOID. Last, do you stay in a toxic relationship? Please share today’s podcast with someone you think it’ll encourage! Subscribe to Perry and Shawna so you don’t miss an episode.

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Shawna is feeling this fire inside because she now knows after all her years her core purpose in life!

Then, Freud said “All spirituality is nothing more than repressed sexual desires.” It’s actually the polar opposite: Our obsession with sex in our culture is because we’ve repressed Christ!

Next, do you feel like you’re living in a courtroom every day, trying to get the ultimate verdict that you’re a good person through your performance. We’ll never get the verdict that way.

Then, what do you do when you don’t know what to do? Take a loving guess. Next, the three words that have been changing Perry’s heart since he was 10.

Last, Corey was brutalized by a Nazi guard in a WW 2 concentration camp. And now after the war, he was asking for her forgiveness.

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Shawna shares what she’d do different if she knew she was fully loved. Then she realizes, “I am fully loved, so what’s keeping me from living into that?” Then, God told his people to wipe out all the pagan peoples when they took the promised land. Was this God-ordained genocide??

Next, Chris Martin author of The Wolf in Their Pockets 13 Ways the Social Internet Threatens the People You Lead joins the team. Chris shares the number one way we can offset how social media is discipling us: To reach for the word before we reach for our phone.

Next, we obey because we are loved. So, how’s your obedience to God going? Then, you are not too sinful to be in God’s family! Last, Chris Martin jumps back in with what it looks like for him to be shaped by Jesus rather than by social media.

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Hannah Keeley’s story starts in a pile of laundry. She was a young mom battling depression, fear, anxiety, bankruptcy, and crippling worry. One day while folding laundry, she caught a glimpse of herself in the mirror and couldn’t stand the woman she’d become.

That’s when God began to teach her how to take captive the legion of lies that were controlling her life.  Now Hannah’s a Life Coach, Creator of Mom Mastery University, Podcaster, America's #1 Mom Coach, and a mom of 7. First, Hannah’s come a looooong way, but she still has her freak out anxiety moments.

Then, how to take captive every thought. Next, freedom: When our feelings bow to God’s promises. Then, the poison of social media comparison. Next, don’t listen to yourself. Talk to yourself! Last, how Hannah keeps from being puffed up from her success.

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As a young woman Shawna had a plan to take her life. No one suspected it. But she gave a lot of signs to those closest to her. Dr. Danny Huerta, VP of Parenting at Focus on the Family joins us with a conversation about the mental health epidemic among our teens.

First, Shawna’s story and the signs to look for in a teenager planning suicide. Then, the big picture of the epidemic and what we can do to bring life to our kids! Next, as a teenager it never crossed Perry’s mind to share about his struggle with sexual sin. So, how can we create a bridge for our kids to open us to us about their struggles?

Then, what to do if your teen rejects help. Next, Danny’s grandpa saw Jesus just before he passed and how that impacted him. Then, how can you know God loves you? Last, creating a life-giving family culture. Please share this!

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The great Jesus man, Paul confessed, “I want to do what is right, but I can’t. I want to do what is good, but I don’t. I don’t want to do what is wrong, but I do it anyway” (Romans 7:18-19). There is only one way to break out of this, only one. Then, Shawna went into her time with God begging for a crumb, but instead the Lord gave her a feast!

Next, work really hard, strive and strive and strive, and maybe, just maybe, God will love you and accept you.” Only one way to break free from this. Then, maybe you feel ugly and unworthy. The truth is, “You are fearfully and wonderfully made!” Last, when Jesus messenger and apologist Ray Comfort wept at the meaninglessness of life.

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Maybe you’ve been told: “This is why your prayers haven’t been answered.” Or maybe it’s what you tell yourself. In the gospels Jesus did great miracles for people who put their faith in him. But Perry asks, “Do my unanswered prayers for my suffering friend mean I don’t have enough faith?” Perry and Shawna wrestle with why some get the healing and others don’t.

Then, Bill wanted one thing before he died. And Jesus gave it to him moments before he breathed his last. Next, what frees us to be vulnerable. Then, Randy Alcorn says that it’s possible God will give us some kind of temporary physical body in heaven as we wait for our final resurrection. Last, if you’ve spent everything trying to fix yourself, and you’re still broken. 

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Shame says, “Your sin defines you. It’s who you are and who you’ll always be. There is no hope for you.” This is a lie the Perry believed. But somewhere on the journey he stopped believing it. How?? Then Jesus believes in you. Next, Jesus sees you. He gets you. Then, God created us to dance with him. Next, Perry’s eerie encounter with evil as a teenager and how his dad stood in the gap for him. Last, Jesus doesn’t just give a free pass to heaven. He heals us in every way. Spiritually yes. But also, physically and emotionally.

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Mara grew up with an abusive, alcoholic father. As a young adult she was attacked by a stranger at a gas station. At 21 years old she was looking for love in all the wrong places. Mara was 11 weeks pregnant when she went to planned parenthood for help. “We can take care of your ‘problem’”, they said. So she had an abortion. She will always regret her sins. God’s love has led her to receive His forgiveness, extend forgiveness to herself, her father and the man who assaulted her.

Today, a devoted follower of Jesus, she tells her own story of God’s love and mercy as she helps women who carry the burden of having aborted their child and as a cautionary tale for women considering abortion. If you wrestle with regret or forgiveness you will find hope in Mara’s story.

God loves you and His plans for you are good!

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The day after Perry was filled up with the Spirit when he was 16, he blew it big time. And that’s why he can relate so much to Peter’s massive failure: Denying Jesus 3 times after he had received so much from Jesus. There’s still grace after train wreck failures!

Then, Shawna admits, “I feel unqualified to be used by Jesus; I feel like I’m not enough; but Jesus is teaching me to just give him what I have!” Next, singer, songwriter Zach Williams was addicted, on tour with his band in Europe when Jesus found him through a song.

Then, Perry was in the mountains of Thailand sharing songs with people who didn’t understand his words, but somehow God was reaching them. Last, there’s no other God like ours, a God who bleeds.

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This is something Perry has thought about a lot. And Jesus’ answer to him has brought such healing.  Jessica Thompson author of He Loved Them: Discovering Jesus’ Heart for Seekers, Sinners, Doubters, and the Discouraged (and Other People Like Us) joins the team with a conversation about the unbelievable, yet still true, love of Jesus!

First, Jesus and the worst sin of Perry’s life. Then, could Judas have been forgiven? Do you feel like a Judas? Next, is my hardship a punishment for my sin? Then, Jesus forgives deniers and betrayers. Next, how to let Jesus love you. Last, as soon as we sin, let’s runto Jesus! If you’re encouraged by this show, pass it on!

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When Dan Mike worked as a barista, his co-workers would give decaffeinated coffee to customers who were mean, rude, and demanding (without them knowing, of course). This is not what a cross-shaped life looks like! Dan Mike Thompson, teaching pastor at Crossroads Bible Church in Grand Rapids, MI helps us explore what it looks like to be shaped by the cross because we’ve been saved by the cross.

A cross-shaped life looks like patience when we’re cut off in traffic. It’s looks like celebrating the team who beat yours. It looks like Perry boasting in his depression and shame. It’s looks like going in the opposite direction of celebrity Christian culture. It looks like giving an irate customer the coffee they ordered. It looks like the Father, Son, and Holy Spirit who have always been cross-shaped even before there was need for a cross. 

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Perry’s wound of shame started when he was 8. Shame said, “Perry, what you’ve done is who you are and who you’ll always be. There is no hope for you.” So how could that poisonous message of shame ever become a friend? Perry shares the journey. Then, the only way to face your accusers is to be perfectly known and loved by the One who knows everything about you. Next, Saulo Montalvo sat in his prison cell with a life sentence wanting to die. That’s when Jesus reached him through 89.3 Moody Radio. Last, when we are weak, that’s when God’s power is at work in us. But Perry admits, “I don’t want to be weak; I want to be impressive!”

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Do you feel like you are circling the base of the same mountain over and over again? For all the activity in your life do you feel like there should be more accomplished?  We so get it! Award winning author & speaker, Paula Jauch, joined us to talk about “Burnout”. We wrestled through recognizing burnout, identifying priorities, knowing your season, hearing God’s voice, communicating your priorities with others and setting and holding healthy boundaries. If you feel exhausted, frustrated or nothing at all, you might want to give this a listen. We’re in it with you, friend. And with God’s help, we can learn to live in the unforced rhythms of grace.

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Our worth is not determined by who we know, what we own, how well we perform, how much we make. God has shown us in time and space what we’re worth. And it has nothing to do with what we’ve done and everything to do with what he’s done.

Then, the only way to even begin to be fully dedicated to God is to keep on seeing our complete helplessness. Next, as a teenager it never crossed Perry’s mind to open up about his struggles with sin. Then, do you know who you are? Do you know why you’re here?

Next, as a boy Perry longed to know he was in God’s forever family. He thought he had to dosomething to find that assurance. But he could not figure out what that was. Last, Kristen, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener reminds us just how vast and mind-blowing God’s love for us is.

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That’s what Zach Meerkreebs texted to his wife just after speaking at the chapel service that kicked off the outpouring of the Holy Spirit at Asbury University. It’s a conversation about how Jesus doesn’t need our impressive gifts, he just needs our weakness to showcase his strength!

Then, Shawna admits, “I’m so easily offended.” Next, Perry’s “couch potato Christianity.” Then, we’re not meant to live in monasteries, we’re meant to live in the mess. Last, the skeptical pastor that showed up at the Asbury outpouring and got something he neverexpected.  

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All the plans were in play for Bob Blincoe to take a team of Jesus followers into Baghdad in December to pray about moving there to plant the gospel in Baghdad and southern Iraq. But in the “severe providence of God,” the trip didn’t happen because the man who was Bob’s main contact in Baghdad was martyred. Bob Blincoe from FrontiersUSA joins us to share the story of this brother’s martyrdom; how hundreds of Muslims in Baghdad have heard the gospel because of his death; and the plan to take a few believers into Iraq this year who will be praying about taking the baton from our fallen brother. “Except a kernel of wheat falls to the ground and dies it remains a single seed. But if it dies it produces many seeds” (John 12:24).

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Tyler always dreamed of going to film school. But his sister who was at Moody, said, “Come to Moody first!” He did and that choice set up Tyler to become one of the three writers for the hit TV series, The Chosen. Tyler Thompson, 2010 Moody grad joins us to talk all things Chosen.

First, your sister always knows best. Then, how profs as Moody helped set up Tyler to write The Chosen. Next, Tyler’s first gig out of Moody happened to be with Chosencreator Dallas Jenkins. Then, how the Spirit is helping the writers get it right.

Next, Jonathan Roumie’s amazing take on Jesus. Then, the story will go beyond the Resurrection! Next, how they pulled off the stunning walking on water scene. Then, do these writers ever sleep?? Last, the holy imagination that fuels the show. Please share this show!

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Jeremy’s life was good. He had everything a person could want. But he threw it all away in the most public way possible, complete with criminal charges and his mug in the newspaper.  In 2013, he became caught up in a consensual ten-month emotional affair. A few months in he was depressed, suicidal, and living a double life.

By the time the obsession had run its course, Jeremy would find himself standing below this woman’s bedroom window, reduced from a leader in the community to little more than a peeping-tom. He was convicted of a felony, felt the sting of public shame, and had to resign his pastoral position and the seminary where he taught.

But God. God is a redeemer. If you’ve wrecked your life through your own bad choices, find hope in Jeremy’s jaw-dropping story. Jeremy Grinnell earned his Ph.D. from Calvin Seminary in Grand Rapids, MI, and taught seminary for nearly 15 years.  Jeremy courageously shares his story with us and in his book, The Bellowing of Cain: Hope for Those Who’ve Blown It.  

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Taylor found herself in a hospital with a massive blood clot that would change the rest of her life. And she found herself crying out, “Lord, what are you doing to my plans?” Taylor Turkington is the director of BibleEquipping where she helps teach and coach Bible teachers. Taylor’s new book that releases this Tuesday the 28th is “Trembling Faith: How a Distressed Prophet Helps Us Trust God in a Chaotic World.” In “Trembling Faith” we’re invited to dive into the ancient bible book of Habakkuk with a question: “God, how can you be good when there’s so much evil and suffering and injustice in the world, in my world??” It’s a conversation about how lamenting the hard and wrestling with the questions grows a deeper faith.

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As Jonathan stepped into Hughes Auditorium, it was like stepping out of the desert life of this world with all its stresses and into the oasis of Jesus’ presence. Jonathan and his bride Laura served 20 years in Central Asia sharing Jesus with Muslims. Now they coach and raise up teams to bring the gospel to the Muslim world. And they just happen to live 10 minutes from Asbury University where Jesus has been pouring out his Spirit since February 8th.

Jonathan takes us to that moment he first stepped into Hughes. He shares how Abba spoke identity to his 22-year-old daughter and what happened to 2 young Catholics who showed up searching for God. Also, Baby Boomers asking forgiveness of Gen Z-ers. Then, Gen Z-ers experiencing Jesus’ healing through one another. Next, how no one’s been able to hijack this. And people just showing up, not knowing why they’ve come, and what they’ve found!

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Gwen has loved Jesus since she was a girl. But for many years having a daily time with God felt like being tied to a ball and chain. It felt like a religious duty she had to perform to get God to love her.  Then the light of Jesus’ words broke through: “Are you tired? Worn out? Burned out on religion? Come to me. Get away with me and you’ll recover your life. I’ll show you how to take a real rest. Walk with me and work with me—watch how I do it.

Learn the unforced rhythms of grace. I won’t lay anything heavy or ill-fitting on you. Keep company with me and you’ll learn to live freely and lightly,” (Matt. 11:28-30).  That’s when she learned her own rhythm of connecting with God. Gwen Jackson is author of “Unforced Rhythms: Why Daily Devotions Aren’t for All of Us.” She joins us to share her journey into freedom and to show why a daily time with God isn’t the only way to draw from the river of life!

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Perry says, “Every time I taste God’s love I realize that all those other places I look to for real life are cheap substitutes.” People the world over are experiencing at Asbury what we were created for: To be filled with the love of God. Nothing else satisfies. Then, Shawna admits: “I have a hard time believing what God has promised me.”

Next, Shawna’s daughter Haven shares her song “His Story,” honoring her grandpa. Then, it was spring break in high school for Perry in St. Paul, MN. The last place on earth he wanted to be. Turns out, it was the best place on earth to be. Last, you don’t have to go to Asbury to be filled up with God’s love!

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This was Perry’s everyday reality as a teenager, and it still is today. But Perry knows so much more now than he did then, and it gives him and us great hope in our struggle with sin. Then, though God knows the good, bad, and ugly about you, you are still his favorite child. Next, the blood of murdered Abel cried out for justice. But Jesus’ blood speaks a better word. Then, Shawna admits, “God can speak life to me in my time with him, then 2 hours later, I forget what he said and that he’s even in my life!” Then Ben Connelly author of Reading the Bible, Missing the Gospel, says: “Jesus is the only hero is the bible. Since I started reading it that way, my life is changing!”

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At 16 Claire would have said, “I’m a Christian”, but she was into everything all her non-believing friends were into. Until one evening, as a sophomore in high school she was riveted by a YouTube video that Jesus used to show her she was lost. That’s the night Jesus found Claire. Now Claire’s 19 and is moving to the Middle East to share Jesus’ love with Muslims!  Claire also shares how Jesus broke her heart for those who haven’t heard the gospel, how the Lord used her to lead a Muslim to Jesus, and how God showed her nothing is impossible through one thousand twenty seven dollars. Last Shawna admits, “I thought Lent was just for Catholics!”

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Last Wednesday, Asbury University students made their way to chapel. When the last worship song was played, students didn’t want to leave because of the thickness of God’s presence. And they still haven’t left! Author, communicator, podcaster, Steve Norman of Winning At Home teams up with us to talk about what’s going on!

First, history tells us the prayer always comes before revival and right on the heels of prayer is repentance, turning from our sin to the mercy of God. Then, Steve admits, “I don’t want to open up about my sin, I want to armor up and come off all put together!” And Perry has a confession to make. Next, just recently Perry realized that he initiated bullying against one of his best friends in high school. And so just this last Friday, he sent a letter asking for forgiveness.

Then, when we crash into grace, it moves us to repent. Last, Steve went through Celebrate Recovery and was moved by the Spirit to write letters to those he’d offended. And some he’d offended rejected him. About that Steve says, “It’s not about the person I’ve wronged accepting my amends, it’s about doing anything I can to build a bridge to someone I’ve wronged.” Please share this show!

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It was at his son’s funeral that TobyMac shared some unexpected words that became his family’s “Cornerstone.” Then, life-giving words the Lord spoke to Shawna, “You’re not a problem to fix, you’re my daughter!” Next, when Shawna’s daughter Eden was 12, she said to her mom, “You’re not the bad guy mom, you’re just doing what’s best for us because you love us!”

Then, “A saint is not always someone who is good, but someone who has experienced the goodness of God.” The story behind TobyMac’s “The Goodness.” Then, how the death of Jesus turns every tragedy into beauty. Last, TobyMac never thought he’d write another victory song after the death of his son. That’s when God gave him, “Help Is On The Way.”

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And she’s lived to tell the tale! And she’s single and LOVES Valentine’s Day. It’s none other than our good friend Lisa Anderson of the Boundless Show and Podcast. Boundless is an international community of singles who’re doing life together and growing a faith that goes the distance.

First, Lisa shares why she loves Valentine’s Day. (Because it’s about way more than romantic love)! Then, if you’re single, you don’t have to live as if you’re in waiting. You can go for it, living life to the full! Next, Jesus is freeing Lisa more and more to let God love her apart from her performance. Next, if you’re single and you feel alone and sad, Lisa’s got some gold for you.

Then, if you’re single and getting older, should you freeze your eggs? (Sorry that we’ll only talk about lighter subjects). Last, the key to living life to the full is realizing we’re not in control; that even if our best laid plans have failed, God’s got us!

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That’s the reality for 200 language groups in Nigeria. They don’t have a bible in their language. They’ve still haven’t heard the good news. The Holy Spirit hasn’t filled their hearts with the love of God. Yet.

Christy Yoder and her husband Zach and their children are giving their lives in Nigeria through Wycliffe to see that every man, woman, boy, and girl in Nigeria has a chance to hear about Jesus in their heart language in this generation!

First, Christy will be at roadside stop and start playing on her phone a newly translated language. Pretty soon her phone is snatched away as people are hearing God speak their language for the first time!

Then, if you want to hear what it sounds like to have “God so loved the world to beating in your chest,” Christy bleeds it!  Next, Nigerian farmers are hearing the gospel and they are singing Jesus songs in their fields!

Then, Shawna felt completely unqualified to become co-host of Perry and Shawna Mornings. But Jesus said, “Come, walk on the water Shawna!” Last, living in the moment: Free from past regrets, free from fearing the future.

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That’s the question Amy did NOT want to ask. But the answer Jesus gave her, healed her heart. Author and bible teacher Amy Seiffert joins us with a conversation around her new book, Starved: Why We Need A Spiritual Diet Change To Move Us From Tired, Anxious, and Overwhelmed To Fulfilled, Whole, and Free.

It’s a conversation about breaking free from the spiritual junk food that leaves us empty to fill up on the only thing that gives us rest for our weary, wounded souls: The goodness of Jesus. First, how Jesus healed Amy’s deep wounds that came from sexual abuse. Then, the guy said to Amy, “Why don’t I teach the bible and you bring the brownies?” Yup he really said that.

Next, it doesn’t have to look a certain way to fill up on Jesus’ presence. Then, when Jesus lifted Amy’s weight of sin, she literally felt 80 pounds lighter! Next, learning to let God love you. Then, spiritual self-help is well, pride. Last, the greatest way we can encourage each other is with the gospel! Please share this if it’s encouraged you.

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I thought that God owed me. Scary thought, I know, but somehow I believed that because I gave my life to Him He owed me a comfortable, pain free life. Jen Ledger, drummer of Skillet, reminds us to “Keep Fighting!”.

Also, great news! God uses ordinary, uneducated people to advance His kingdom. The only prerequisite is surrendering your heart to Him.

Prayer is more than a laundry list of requests to God, way more!

When we’ve blown it and come to our senses we can skip the speech and let God love us and restore our true identity.

The Word of God is perfect. Dig deep into His word today!

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Mike gave his life over to Jesus as a boy, but he really didn’t taste freedom til he was 38. And that changed everything. Mike Latsko works with FrontiersUSA: With love and respect inviting all Muslim peoples to follow Jesus.

Mike also leads the Engage Network whose goal is to reach, by 2025, the 1600 remaining Muslim, Buddhist, Hindu and tribal people groups in the world that still have no chance to hear the gospel.

First, Mike shares how he was trying so hard to be a good Christian till he was 38. That’s when he realized that his identity was in his own performance, not Jesus’. And that awakening has freed Mike to pursue God’s destiny full on.

Then, when God puts a dream in your heart and you’re afraid to pursue it because of what people will think. A conversation about how to get a God dream and then pursue it no matter what.

Next, it’s really the deepest motivation for sharing Jesus: Knowing that people the world over have never tasted what we have: The "never stopping, never giving up, unbreaking, always and forever love" of God.

Last, Mike’s audacious God dream to give the whole world a chance to hear the good news by 2025 and how you can be part of it! If this show pumps you up, please share it with someone!

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The best-selling and most-awarded female gospel artist of all time, CeCe Winans joins the team today! 15 Grammy Awards, 31 Dove Awards, 16 Stellar Awards but we quickly find out from our dear sister CeCe that it’s all about the God’s glory. First how CeCe’s parents brought her into God’s presence providing a bridge to taste and see that the Lord’s love is better than life. It’s how we can pass on the faith to our kids and grandkids. Then, the moment CeCe felt there was no way she could take another step.

Then, CeCe’s praying that God will do the impossible in her and through her. “I’ve left too much on the table. Why couldn’t people be healed when they pass through our shadow? So many people need the Lord!” And last, CeCe’s won a ton of awards and yet when she won Artist of the Year at this last year’s Dove Awards, she was shocked. She tells us why and we hear of clip of her completely unprepared acceptance speech. Please share this if it encourages you!

CeCe’s Believe For It Tour lands in Hudsonville, MI at Fair Haven Church on March 22nd. Her latest book is Believe For It: Passing on Faith to the Next Generation. And her multi-generational, multi-ethnic Generations LIVE women’s conference is coming to Nashville in May.

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If that’s you, Aaron Williams knows exactly how you feel. Aaron’s a worship leader, co-founder of Dwell Ministries and author of the brand-new book, Whole: The Life-Changing Power of Relating to God with All of Yourself. Aaron’s learned that we get stuck because we tend toseparate things God always meant to go together.

Like separating head from heart; being from doing; truth from spirit, and sinner from saint. When we do this we cut off parts of ourselves that are meant to experience God.  The Lord never meant for us to relate to Him with only parts of ourselves. He wants the whole you. And when he’s invited into the whole you, we experience life to the full!

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Perry admits that he’s never experienced any deep heart change by trying harder, or even by being disciplined. Only one thing is changing him. Then, Shawna shares that what others think of her can mess with her and get her eyes off God’s purpose for her life.  And there’s only one remedy for that. Next, “If only I could get a gazillion streams on one of my songs, I’d be happy.” That’s from Perry and he knows it’s not true, but it still messes with his affection for Jesus. Last, Perry admits, “If I love Jesus at all, and I do; it’s only because I’ve been forgiven SO much.”

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“I’m stupid, I’m not worthy of taking up your time, I shouldn’t speak, I’m insignificant.” These are the lies that have crippled Shawna but that are being broken by the truth, by Jesus! Then, Perry admits, “My perfectionism is my version of trying to fix myself.”

Next, a moment of pain, struggle, and disappointment last week for Shawna when God’s perfect love broke through. Then, whatever you are facing right now Jesus knows how that feels because he’s 100% human. Andbecause he’s God he can help us!

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Growing up Chris had a lot of pain. Sexually abused by a neighbor in his pre-teens. Parents divorced when he was 14. Sexually abused by a family member as a teenager. Medicating shame through pornography. An atheist by high school. Chris Burman is a Perry and Shawna listener who joins us to share his heart-wrenchingly beautiful freedom story. First, celebrating his girlfriend’s abortion yet feeling so empty.

Then, the shame and regret from the abortion was so deep it made Chris feel like vomiting, and the image of Jesus that healed him. Next, Chris’s day of reckoning, in a raging thunderstorm, driven to his knees by a deafening thunderclap and lightning strike. Last, from avoiding looking in the mirror because of the accusing voices of shame to looking in the mirror and announcing the truth to a man set free. Please share!

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That’s what the Jesus followers of the Emmanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church in Charleston, NC did one week after 9 of their African American brothers and sisters were gunned down in their church. That’s what Maverick City Music did last June in that same church on the 7th anniversary of the mass shooting. And that’s what we are called to do: To learn what it looks like to dance in the places of desolation.

Then Shawna woke up super anxious last week. It took her three changes of clothes to realize it! Next, Shawna shares grace with Perry about the pain of his teenage years. Then, we can learn to be so sure of God with us that we’d be able to sleep in a hurricane. Not an overpromise! Last, the way out of reliving, over and over and over, an offense done to us. Share this if you’re encouraged by it.

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Gary was all boy, always had grass stains on his jeans. And he grew up in church hearing that Jesus does miracles, so he thought, “Why not? I’ll ask Jesus to take the grass stains out of my jeans while I sleep.” And in the morning, yep! Gary Jarvis, pastor of South Blendon Community Church joins the team to share how Jesus won his heart as a boy. By working some pretty sweet miracles.

Then Gary shares how he knew early on that Jesus had called him to be a pastor. But he also knew he needed to work in the real world, outside the Christian bubble he’d lived in all his life so that he could learn to relate with people outside the church. And that’s what he did for 7 years before becoming a pastor. And last we hear how Jesus helped Gary in the most excruciating trial of his life: His son’s battle with Leukemia.

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For the last three weeks Shawna’s been hyper-focused on being more aware that the Lord is with her in every moment. And after the three-week trial she admits, “I’m more aware of how often I’m NOT aware of his presence!” And that’s been so discouraging, until yesterday.

Then, if you’re finding it hard to keep the faith because life so hard right now, don’t spend all your energy trying to muster up enough faith, do something else! Next, Jesus wants to upset your normal, because he has something way better for you than your normal.

Then, Jesus knew Perry’s teenage years we’re going to be painful and so he came into his life when he was 10 to walk with him through it! Last, how do we do everything we do for God’s fame and not our own? We need a new heart and the power of the Holy Spirit.

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The Global Youth Culture is the largest culture to ever exist. They’re more connected, but never more alone. Always seeking pleasure, never satisfied. A worldwide suicide epidemic. Sexually broken and confused, raised on pornography.

Taught there is no absolute truth, only preference. This global generation is overwhelmed with loneliness, anxiety, and depression… and they are NOT looking to the church for answers because they believe it to be irrelevant to their lives.  Many are apathetic, cynical, and even hostile to the Gospel.

These are our friends, our sons, and our daughters. Maybe your sons and daughters. And they can be rescued! Aaron Pierce the International Director of Steiger International, a worldwide mission community focused on reaching the global youth culture joins the team to show us how to reach them!

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Not only that, Satan will tempt you when you’re at your weakest. And there is only one way to stand when you’re that weak: Know the word and speak it to him. As Jesus did in the wilderness, “It is written!” Then, when God puts a dream in your heart for his kingdom you’ll be opposed! You’ll be opposed by the enemy, by your own impure motives, and by the world’s standard of success.  A conversation about what to do when that happens. Next, when the enemy opposes you, he will do everything he can to get you to question your identity as a child of God. Last, Perry shares, “I need to worship Jesus with his people—I need it more that the air I breathe!”

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Wokeness threatens to sweep away our kids, even our youngest. But it’s not time to throw stones at culture, it’s time to pour into our kids. To teach them who they are and why they’re here. We can raise up unshakable kids in a culture that’s shaking. And Daniel Darling can help us! Daniel’s a pastor and author. His brand-new storybook for your kids is The Biggest Best Light.

His book is the springboard for our conversation. We talk about teaching kids three to seven to know who they are: beautiful image-bearers of God. Then, how to teach our kids to show God’s love to their broken world. And last, we talk about how to joyfully teach our kids to own their gender and how to have organic conversations with your kids about your faith!

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Perry admits, “Every time I’ve sinned against God I’ve brought shame on God’s family, and my own family for that matter.” And yet if we’re in God’s family Jesus is not ashamed to call us “My brother! My sister!” How can that be?

Then, she’s got the whole world in her hands. That’s how Shawna was living before Christmas. Like life was all on her. And she admits, “It was my pride that was causing me to think that.” Next, Jesus had moments when he hit the wall. When he had no strength for his next step. That’s why he can help us when our strength is gone!

Then, God is holy, and we are sinful. But Perry doesn’t think that should be our moment-by-moment focus. Next, on the other hand we can treat sin too lightly. Last, reading just bits and pieces of the bible is like walking into the middle of a conversation: When we understand the one story of the bible, the bits and pieces make way more sense.

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Best-selling author of The Five Love Languages, Gary Chapman. You might think that he’s always had the perfect marriage. Nope. Early on he was proud, thought he knew it all. He thought, “If only my bride Karolyn would agree with everything I say, we’d have a great marriage.” And God humbled him.

Then three questions the Lord gave Gary to ask Karolyn out of that time of humbling. Next, “We don’t really talk at all,” can be healed with humility. Then, how the church has created a culture of shame about sex. Next, how pornography poisons sex and how to be healed. (Something personal for Perry). Last, if your spouse struggles with mental illness. Please share this show!

Dr. Chapman is coming to West Michigan for his Five Love Languages Marriage Conference!

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This is what Perry struggles with. He realizes that it’s his version of trying to fix himself, to save himself. And he shares a truth about Jesus that’s liberating him from that! Then, what breaks Shawna’s heart? People who are religious but don’t have a deep friendship with God. That’s exactly what Perry’s mom and dad were like in their 20’s.

Next, moments in life when we’re blind-sided and the hardest thing to pray is, “Thy will be done.” Then, Shawna can’t shut up about what God is showing her: That he’s not mad at her, that he loves being with her. Last, Perry ended last year completely worn out, burnt out, and exhausted. And with 3 weeks to rest God spoke words that healed his heart.

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And the shame of his sin nearly killed him. Until Jesus healed him, and he learned to take captive every thought. This is Stephen Arterburn’s gripping story. Stephen’s the founder of New Life Ministries and the host of the Christian counseling talk show New Life Live. Stephen’s joins the team with a conversation about his newest book Every Believer’s Thought Life: Defeating Destructive Mental Patterns to Gain Victory Over Temptation.

In our conversation Stephen gives us an ocean depth of wisdom and Spirit-powered tools to overcome the poisonous thoughts that try to, straight up, take us out! Whether it’s lust, shame, worry, regret, bitterness, whatever the poisonous thought, we can be healed, we can learn to take captive every thought and we can learn to turn our painful thoughts into growing deep in Jesus. Please share today’s show!

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Jedi Master, financial guru, awesome dude, president of Kingdom Advisors and host Moody of Radio’s Faith and Finance, Rob West joins the team to give us his top 10 financial moves for 2023. Rob’s passion is working at the intersection of faith and finance to help us “do all the good we can, by all the means we can, in all the ways we can, in all the places we can, at all the times we can, to all the people we can, as long as ever we can.” Not just with our money but with every fiber of our being!

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Shawna shares her longing—“In a year I want to be someone so confident in God’s love for me, that I’m not focused on me at all, but focused on others. Loving others so well that they grow into a deep confidence in God’s love for them.” Then, Jesus shows us the loving face of the Father, he holds us together when we feel we’re spinning out of control, he cleanses completely of the filth we know is deep inside and we can never out sin his grace. Last, she was crying out to Jesus for a life verse for her granddaughter and all the while it was shining like a neon sign right in front of her!

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As a black man he’s been profiled, he’s been falsely accused, he was one of 15 college students in a white college of 1000, and in his words his experience was “misery.” But God called him in the Great Rift Valley in Kenya to love people that wouldn’t love him back.

Jimmy Rollins has a passion for healing of the wounds of racism in American through the power of the gospel! Jimmy’s a pastor, national speaker, and author of the brand-new book, Love Outside the Lines: Beyond the Boundaries of Race, Difference, and Preference.

Then, Perry shares what fires him up, what breaks his heart, and what he can’t shut up about! Last, Jesus is compelling Shawna to do something she’s never done before. She’s doesn’t really know how to do it, she’s worried about what people will think. BUT she’s going for it!

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Damar Hamlin’s public collapse has highlighted our need for God. If you haven’t heard it yet, listen to Dan Orlavsky’s prayer on ESPN. On a national sports show he talked to God. He told him we are angry and confused and we’re talking to Him because prayer changes things. It was honest and bold and unexpected. But what happened to Damar has opened up conversations for all of us to reveal the God we love and who loves us to those around us. How will we respond?

This world is in deep need of God. Founder and President of Mentor Me of West Michigan, Todd Ponstein, and Ministry Administrator Judi Jongekrijg joined us in studio to talk about what God is doing through their ministry. They partner youths in need with paid, trained mentors to walk alongside them in relationship and introduce them to the God who loves them. God is up to something beautiful through this ministry. You’re going to love these stories.

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Trillia Newbell is the author of 52 Weeks In The Word: A Companion For Reading Through The Bible In A Year and she joined us to talk about her own journey of reading scripture & how lifechanging it is to spend time with God regularly in His Word.

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David Doerner, who is transitioning in as lead pastor at Frontline Church in Grand Rapids was with us this morning to talk about surrendering our goals and New Year’s Resolutions to God and pursuing His dreams for our lives.

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A new year brings new challenges. Some people seem to thrive at the challenge while others struggle to embrace the change. Want some practical tips on how to step into the new in a healthy way? Me too!

Emilie DeYoung is our guest today. She’s been a counselor for 28 years, 18 of those have been at Winning At Home. She enjoys working with kids, teens, and adults.  She has a special affinity for cross cultural work – so she enjoys counseling missionaries and their families as well as partnering with worldwide organizations to promote faith-based mental health. She has so much good, solid wisdom to share with us today about how we can embrace new things in a healthy way. Enjoy! In fact, why don’t you submit to Perry & Shawna Mornings real quick so you never miss an episode. You might even want to share this one with your friends.

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Happy New Year! If you love Jesus and you want to be like him but there is sexual sin in your past, any sin in your past, you might be encouraged to hear a story about a real guy with some real sin. He got another man’s wife pregnant & tried to cover it up. When that plan fell through he had the woman’s husband killed. God said of this guy, “He’s a man after my own heart.” WHAT? Yes! It really happened. Hear the story, and find hope for your own story, in today’s episode of Perry & Shawna Mornings.

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Perry’s dad was in ER on Sunday and again on Monday. The 2nd anniversary of his mom’s passing was Wednesday, he’s had sleepless nights, and his suffering friend has gotten worse. But his heads above water for one reason alone! Then, the Facebook Reel that wrecked Shawna this week.

Next, God prompted Perry’s friend John to give up his plane seat 4 times so that a Muslim woman who knew nothing about Jesus could experience his love. Then, if you feel alone, please listen to what Shawna has to share.

Next, when Jim Samra (Calvary Church, Grand Rapids) was in college he got really sick, he felt all alone, helpless. That’s when he learned the power of weakness. Last, your greatest longing this Christmas is probably not your greatest longing. Please share this show if you’re encouraged!

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Shawna admits, “I feel unworthy of being used by Jesus. Don’t follow me cause I’m still trying to figure this thing out.” But Paul told his protégé Timothy, “I’m the worst of sinners!” It’s a conversation about how we don’t have to be perfect to lead. We just need to be humble.

Then, Perry admits, “Sometimes I doubt that God is good and when I do, this is where I go.” Next, we were created to walk with God and talk with him and to hear him say, “You’re my beloved!”

Then, God is for us. He longs to pour his goodness into us. But there’s one thing we need to receive it: Humility. Last, if you’re in a season where you don’t feel God’s presence, where it’s hard to believe that he’s good, Perry and Shawna feel that and have some hope to share.

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Perry’s sins as a teenager gave him life-long wounds of shame. Yet those wounds are the very reason the good news is such good news to him!

Then, Shawna calls delayed obedience, disobedience. And she admits that’s what she’s been doing. God’s been moving her to write but she’s delaying because she’s afraid.

Next, a conversation with Charlie Dyer, host of The Land and the Book about how God does his best work in us in the wilderness. Charlie’s brand-new book is Experiencing the Land of the Book: A Life Changing Journey Through Israel.

Last, Perry’s dad went to ER on Sunday and again on Monday, and his suffering friend has been getting worse. In all this he’s been crying out for the “at all times” and “in every way” peace of the Lord (2 Thess. 3:16).

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What do Enola Holmes (Sherlock’s younger sister) and Jesus have in common? Shawna knows!  It’s a conversation about finding yourself in the Christmas story. Then, why do we need a Savior? To really grasp that, we need to face some really bad news about ourselves. Next, we have this idea of Joseph and Mary being rejected in Bethlehem. “No room for them in the inn,” right? But that’s not at all how it went down! Last, if you’ve been shamed, shunned, or canceled, the baby of Bethlehem is for you!

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Perry realized this in church yesterday, that’s he’s been carrying around condemnation from his past. So he chose once again to accept Jesus’ forgiveness and forgive himself. It’s a conversation about the only way we find deep-hearted peace.  

Then, in our culture conservatives can feel like the good guys, “We’ve got the moral high ground, we’re better than those lefties who condone everything.” And liberals can feel like the good guys, “We’re not like those close-minded, hate-filled conservatives.” Truth is, there is no one righteous.

Next, if you’ve experienced Jesus’ presence, you know him intimately. And your every experience with Jesus is a story you can share to move those who don’t know him yet, one step closer. Next Jesus didn’t come to fulfill our dreams, he came to make us just like him, and that’s a painfully beautiful process. Last, Perry’s theory on why superhero films are so massively popular.

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That’s how Shawna was feeling yesterday. So, she got alone, cried out to Jesus, and let him fill her with his peace: We can’t control our circumstances, but we can be intentional about carving out time with the Prince of Peace. Next, Perry confesses, “I thrust the spear in Jesus’ side!” Then, Ron, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener texted in, “Would you pray for me, I love Jesus, but I fear that God will kick me out of his family.” Perry can relate and so we have a conversation about what to do with those doubts and fears. Next, a picture-perfect Christmas is not what Christmas is all about. Last, it’s more important than the air we breathe: Preaching the gospel to ourselves.

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If you are, the message of Paul’s letter to the Galatians is the remedy! Paul shouts the liberating truth that we are set right with God by trusting in Jesus. There is nothing we can ever do or could ever do to earn God’s favor.

Dr. Neil Martin joins our team to plumb the depths of Galatians with a conversation about his new book Galatians Reconsidered: Jews, Gentiles and Justification in the First and the Twenty First Centuries.

Neil’s a professor at the University of Oxford, England, and he’s Director of B-Less an outreach to the students at the University of Oxford. Why were the Galatian believers so drawn to thinking they had to earn God’s favor and why are we in the 21st century? Let’s dive in!

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Enoch and Shimon trekked to an Islamic village to show the Jesus Film. They started playing music to draw people to the film. No one came. Something wasn’t right. That’s when 12 Islamic extremists came running at them waving machetes, screaming, kill the infidels!

Then, Shawna’s friend Doris had blamed herself for months for her husband’s death. She finally poured out her soul to Shawna. When they began praying something astonishing happened to Doris right before Shawna’s eyes.

Next, Perry wants to be like Vlad and Antone. They drive their 2-seater bicycle from town to town showing the Jesus Film to Muslims. They do this because they long for the day when there’s no place left where it’s always winter but never Christmas!

Last, Shawna was so anxious on Monday night that she couldn’t sleep. And when she finally fell asleep for 26 minutes, she had anxiety dreams. But something really sweet came out of her experience. Share this show if you’re encouraged by it.

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When Perry was 18 he experienced a miracle of healing in his ankle and in his heart that changed the trajectory of his life. If you’re asking God for a miracle, should you expect one? Should you give up on it cause God doesn’t do those things anymore? It’s a conversation about why God does and doesn’t do miracles. Then, you may think you’re too sinful for Jesus, but the message of Christmas is that Jesus came for those just like you, and me.

Next, Shawna has been wrestling with: “you’re not qualified to teach the bible.” Then a listener, Anne, called to share Shawna’s own words to set her free! Next, if anybody had reason to cancel somebody, it was Joseph when he found out Mary was pregnant—a conversation about cancel culture. Last, the enemy wants to swallow us up by accusing us of our sins. That’s been true for Perry. And at the end of the day, he’s learned the only way to stand. 

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It took Marina Hofmann 5 years to recover from the head-on crash she and her husband were in. If her husband hadn’t leaned over from the driver’s side to cushion Marina’s blow he would have died because the engine was pushed into the driver’s seat.

Marina likely would have died as well without her husband’s heroic move. But God had another plan. Dr. Marina Hoffman’s a Bible professor at Palm Beach Atlantic University and author of the award-winning book, Women in the Bible Small Group Bible Study.

She joins the team to share her riveting story of survival and she shares how Mary, the mother of Jesus inspired her in her 5-year recovery that included not only physical and brain injuries, but also PTSD, depression, and anxiety. And how Mary still inspires her and speaks to us about trust, obedience, and faithfulness to God. 

Last, Shawna’s been trying to control and fix all her problems lately. A few days back the Lord posed a question: “Do you think you really can solve all the world’s problems?” And last, Perry shares the joy of being able to lead Bimmer’s dad to Jesus. Share this show!

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Perry feels like this several times a week. That’s when he needs to step back (and maybe you do to) and realize, “God you’ve been working out your rescue plan to save the world for millennia. So, I probably should trust you’re fully in control!” Then, it’s ok to not be ok at Christmas. That’s why Jesus came.

Next, Perry’s feelings have been telling him, “You should worry about getting kicked out of God’s family.” And there’s only one thing that’s helping him stand. Then, God’s not angry with you, he’s FOR you! Next, we long for a home we’ve never seen. Last, when Jesus returns it will be like a thousand Christmas mornings!

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Perry admits, “If you knew the worst about me, you probably wouldn’t listen to me.” A conversation about how the one who has been forgiven much, loves much.  Then, Shawna’s friend felt a panic attack coming. Shawna didn’t know what to do. Suddenly the Spirit gave the strategy that rescued her friend—a conversation about the word of wisdom gift from the Spirit.

Next, Shawna’s friend Danielle, a new believer, blurted out, “I never knew Jesus was coming back!” It’s a reminder of the people around us who may know very little about the bible and the massive opportunity that gives us to share the truth that will set them free!

Then, if you have deep remorse over your worst sins, don’t despair. This remorse creates a bridge to experiencing the grace of God deeply. Last, why Jesus came is WAY bigger than just “Coming into our hearts to be our personal Savior.” WAY bigger and better.

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If that’s you, you can leave the guilt and shame behind through the Spirit’s strength and through the wisdom of Certified Financial Planner and author of Wise Women Managing Money, Valerie Neff Hogan. And by the way this wisdom works really well if you’re a guy! First, why training your spouse to manage money is super wise.

Then, where we go wrong with finances and how to go right. Next, how to knock it out of the park with year-end giving. Then, Perry admits, “there are times my heart loves money more than Jesus.” Next, stepping back from your emotions when you really want that thing. Then, Christmas gold—shop on purpose! Last, you can do this, you can steward money God’s way!

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If you never dreamed of being single in this season, and it really hurts, Michelle Donnelly gets it. Michelle is the head of PlusONE Parents and the host of The Christian Single Moms Podcast. She didn’t plan singleness or divorce, but life happened. She joins our team to share the wisdom born from the pain of her journey. First Michelle shares that till she was 25 she was preforming to get God’s favor.

Then, the painful Christmas morning she was all alone without her kids for the first time. Next, how Michelle learned to know the difference between safe and unsafe people in her life. Then, how she kept dating guys who didn’t respect her. Next, the superpower of boundaries! Next, what real forgiveness looks like, it's hard and its costly! Last, if you feel your identity is shame, God is ready to give you a new name: Seen.

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That’s how Perry’s feeling. Because of some life storms that have hit him. Then, battles won in the dark that have proved to Shawna that God will never leave her. But why is it so hard to believe that God will never leave us?  Then, Perry admits, “Sometimes I feel Jesus is sleeping when I keep on asking him to help a friend who’s been suffering and just keeps getting worse.” Last, Perry’s been feeling shaken in his relationship with God.

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If life has blindsided you, you don’t need hollow encouragement, you need someone who understands. Jess Ronnie joins the team to share her blind-sided-by-life story. Jess is the founder of The Lucas Project, helping families with special needs kids. In 2004 her son Lucas had a stroke in the womb. He was born and lives with profound special needs. Her husband Jason died of a brain tumor in 2010. In 2011 she re-married to Ryan to become a blended family of 8. Then Ryan was told he might have cancer. Blindsided by life. Beauty from ashes. Please share!

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Jesus appeared after his resurrection to 500 people at the same time. Imagine being in the crowd and how it would have changed your life. Perry shares the fictional story of one young man in that crowd and how seeing Jesus impacted the rest of his life. Then, the journey to become like Jesus takes a lifetime and requires going through really hard things. Shawna shares (with tears) what that journey has looked like for her.

Next, what’s it going to take for the people in your family who aren’t following Jesus to fall in love with him. Then, when we thank God for his good and perfect gifts it pulls us into a deeper intimacy with the Giver of those gifts. Last, the power of the gospel to break down the walls that keep human hearts from joyfully surrendering to following Jesus. Share this show if you’re encouraged by it!

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In 2017 The Chosen creator Dallas Jenkins released his film The Resurrection of Gavin Stone. His film was meant to be the launch of many other films and productions for Dallas. But the film tanked at the box office ending his dreams of any future projects. Crushed by this, Dallas was randomly messaged by Alex Mosoiu at 4:30 am on the Wednesday after the release of Gavin Stone with a simple message that became the spark God used to launch the global phenomenon, The Chosen. Alex joins our team to share how God used his little act of obedience in ways beyond he could have ever imagined.  And how he wants to use us as well!

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This jealousy rose up in Erez as a young Jewish man. When he met believers in Jesus, he could see their intimate, authentic relationship with the God of Israel, and he longed for what they had! Dr. Erez Soref, President of ONE FOR ISRAEL joins our team to share about the wonders of God going on in Israel as Jews are embracing Jesus as Messiah!  First, Dr. Sorez shares the 2 things that he saw in believers in Jesus that melted his heart.

Then, OFI’s Hebrew language videos has been streamed 50 million times by Hebrew speakers! Next, the Jewish man and the Jewish woman who have just embraced Jesus as Messiah. Then, the lawsuit aimed at stopping OFI. Next, the reason for antisemitism, it’s in each of us. Last, the massive awakening to Jesus among those 30 and under. And it’s not just Jews. It’s Muslims as well! Please share!

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Craig Rayment’s passion is for Jesus and then helping pastors and all Jesus followers develop their God dreams. Craig leads the Great Lakes Region of the Wesleyan Church. His love for Jesus began way before he was born with his chain-smoking, compulsively-cursing great-grandfather!

Then, Craig gave his life over to Jesus as a boy, but when Jesus called him to vocational ministry in high school, he ran completely away from his faith. Next, the turning point in Craig’s life: When he found out that a girl he’d recently dated had HIV.

Then, when Craig was running away from God there were times he could palpably feel his family praying for him. Last, Craig’s run from God and return to him, melted his grandpa’s hard heart. Please share this amazing story of redemption!

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Craig Rayment’s passion is for Jesus and then helping pastors and all Jesus followers develop their God dreams. Craig leads the Great Lakes Region of the Wesleyan Church. His love for Jesus began way before he was born with his chain-smoking, compulsively-cursing great-grandfather!

Then, Craig gave his life over to Jesus as a boy, but when Jesus called him to vocational ministry in high school, he ran completely away from his faith. Next, the turning point in Craig’s life: When he found out that a girl he’d recently dated had HIV.

Then, when Craig was running away from God there were times he could palpably feel his family praying for him. Last, Craig’s run from God and return to him, melted his grandpa’s hard heart. Please share this amazing story of redemption!

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Are you getting ready for Thanksgiving? No, I’m not talking about basting the turkey or tips for the perfect stuffing. I’m talking about getting your heart ready – reflecting on what you are grateful for. Shawna & Scott talk about what they are grateful for in this episode. The list ranges from the Holy Spirit to laundry and everything in between. We even talked about practical ways we can give thanks in our everyday lives.  Enjoy!  We’re glad you’re here!

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Are you getting ready for Thanksgiving? No, I’m not talking about basting the turkey or tips for the perfect stuffing. I’m talking about getting your heart ready – reflecting on what you are grateful for. Shawna & Scott talk about what they are grateful for in this episode. The list ranges from the Holy Spirit to laundry and everything in between. We even talked about practical ways we can give thanks in our everyday lives.  Enjoy!  We’re glad you’re here!

*Scott Curtis is filling in for Perry this morning

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At 17, Rashawn was lying in a parking lot bleeding out from a gunshot wound. At 26, he was in a Hollywood mansion with a gun in his mouth ready to end it all. All his life he’d been pursuing fame and pleasure, trying to prove his 4th grade teacher wrong who’d told him he wasn’t enough. But fame and pleasure didn’t heal him. And in the moment between eternal life and death he heard the ping of a social media message from the only Jesus follower he knew. Rashawn Copeland joins our team to share his riveting story. Rashawn and his bride Denisse are the founders of Without Walls Ministries. Their passion is to see our brokenness healed and point us to the beauty of Jesus through social media. Please share this incredible story!

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At 17, Rashawn was lying in a parking lot bleeding out from a gunshot wound. At 26, he was in a Hollywood mansion with a gun in his mouth ready to end it all. All his life he’d been pursuing fame and pleasure, trying to prove his 4th grade teacher wrong who’d told him he wasn’t enough. But fame and pleasure didn’t heal him. And in the moment between eternal life and death he heard the ping of a social media message from the only Jesus follower he knew. Rashawn Copeland joins our team to share his riveting story. Rashawn and his bride Denisse are the founders of Without Walls Ministries. Their passion is to see our brokenness healed and point us to the beauty of Jesus through social media. Please share this incredible story!

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Imagine a warehouse filled with brand new things that people in need really need, but they can’t afford them. Then imagine over 100 at risk schools and big-hearted nonprofits in West Michigan coming to this warehouse to pick out what people they know really need. Imagine those products empowering moms and dads and sons and daughters with hope for the future.

The Storehouse is the reality of this imagining. God dropped this dream in Jessica Johns heart and she almost gave up on it. She joins our team to share the journey from dream to discouragement to reality to lives being transformed! Then Bono from U2 feels like Christian songs are dishonest. Next, how Tacos changed Shawna’s life. Last, it’s OK to doubt. Actually, doubt is required for deep faith. 

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Maybe that’s how you feel. Perry and Shawna look at the election results through the lens of the gospel. Then yesterday was an extraordinarily hard day for Shawna with the last blow being a car accident. Next, Perry admits, “I feel like I’ve lost my first love for Jesus and I’m not sure how to rekindle it.” Then, Shawna thought she was a 2-talent person until a friend called out the more in her—a conversation about the power of believing in and calling out the best in each other. Last, why it’s a really bad idea to try to earn your salvation. Share this show!

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Peter Mutabazi was born in a small village in Uganda. As a child Peter was physically and emotionally abused by his father every single day. He believed he was worthless. So, when he was 10 his only hope was to run away and live on the streets of Kampala. For six years, he lived with other street kids, sleeping with one eye open, and stealing food to stay alive. Jesus rescued Peter and he joins our team to share his stunning story and his passion to help vulnerable children through Now I Am Known. Also, America doesn’t like losers. But Jesus does: And knowing that he loves us is where life begins. Last, if you don’t feel like you have enough or are enough, look to the one who is enough.

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7 weeks ago, a 22-year-old Iranian woman Mahsa Amini, was killed by morality police in Iran for not covering her head with a hijab. Protests have erupted across Iran, and many are turning to Jesus. Then, Jesus healed 10 lepers but only 1 came back to say, “thank you!” He alone received something the others missed: Intimacy with Jesus. Next, when we give thanks to God it deals a fatal blow to complaining and causes our trust in God to rise.

Next, with the protests in Iran the government is blocking the internet, jamming Satellite TV, and shutting down social media platforms. But it’s not stopping the spread of the gospel. Jesus is on the move! Next, the Iranian born American MMA fighter who dedicated his last win to the people of Iran. Last, instead of wishing you had a different body, thank God that you’re fearfully and wonderfully made!

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Maybe that’s how you feel. If so, Jesus has a very different view of your story. Then, Shawna freaked out. She had her Wednesday evening all planned out. And it did not go down the way she’d planned. If only she knew then what she knows now! Next, Perry admits, “Sometimes I fear that I’ll mis out of God’s forever family.”

Then, knowing God deeply only comes through suffering. Next, if you’re in a season of suffering, know that God is creating a song of hope in you. And when the season is over, the song will be ready, and so will a world desperate to hear the hope you’ve found. Last, the only way to have a strong spiritual core that enables you to face whatever life throws at you is to let God pour his power into your weakness.

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Perry is wrestling big time with Jesus’ words: “One thing you lack. Go, sell everything you have, give to the poor, then come, follow me.” “What does this look like,” he wonders? Then, it was the day for Shawna to say “goodbye,” to her daughter Bryn who was moving to Europe. She didn’t want to let go. But Jesus showed her how. Next, C.S. Lewis said: “In each of us there is something growing, which will BE hell unless it is nipped in the bud.” It’s a conversation about taking drastic measures against the sin in us. Then, Shawna used to hate doing laundry. Until Jesus showed her the real why of doing it. Next, the antidote for the killing poison of grumbling is the cross. Last, Perry has finally taken the Gratitude is Greater than Grumbling Challenge and he’s taken a major step to reboot his basketball career! : )

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Jesus’ grace can come to us in 1001 ways. For James, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener, grace came to him in a head-on crash 20 years ago in Lake City, Michigan. James joins the team to share how Jesus rescued him on that cold winter night in northern Michigan. And Perry and James talk about their common struggle with guilt and shame and how trying harder will never heal us. Then, Shawna’s kicking off the November No Complaining Challenge.

In this year’s 2.0 version she’s raising this bar! Then Sunday night Shawna woke over adozen times with this verse in mind: “If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land.” “Why all these times?” Shawna wonders, and the reality that this is for Jesus’ people, not for the world.

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Jesus’ grace can come to us in 1001 ways. For James, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener, grace came to him in a head-on crash 20 years ago in Lake City, Michigan. James joins the team to share how Jesus rescued him on that cold winter night in northern Michigan. And Perry and James talk about their common struggle with guilt and shame and how trying harder will never heal us. Then, Shawna’s kicking off the November No Complaining Challenge.

In this year’s 2.0 version she’s raising this bar! Then Sunday night Shawna woke over adozen times with this verse in mind: “If my people who are called by my name will humble themselves and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sins and restore their land.” “Why all these times?” Shawna wonders, and the reality that this is for Jesus’ people, not for the world.

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Sleep! Most of us aren’t getting enough of it. Scott shares biblical wisdom for getting a good night sleep! Thanks, Scott!
Shawna’s daughter was warned that a three month mission trip to Africa could cost her everything. What would compel her to go anyway?
With the holidays approaching and family gatherings upcoming is there a relationship in your family that needs reconciliation. There is a story in scripture of incredible forgiveness and reconciliation we can learn from.
What does the bible have to say about what I allow into my life?
What do you turn to when you lose sight of God’s purpose for your life?

Shawna, Scott and Ben take on all these subjects in today’s episode of Perry & Shawna Mornings.

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Sleep! Most of us aren’t getting enough of it. Scott shares biblical wisdom for getting a good night sleep! Thanks, Scott!
Shawna’s daughter was warned that a three month mission trip to Africa could cost her everything. What would compel her to go anyway?
With the holidays approaching and family gatherings upcoming is there a relationship in your family that needs reconciliation. There is a story in scripture of incredible forgiveness and reconciliation we can learn from.
What does the bible have to say about what I allow into my life?
What do you turn to when you lose sight of God’s purpose for your life?

Shawna, Scott and Ben take on all these subjects in today’s episode of Perry & Shawna Mornings.

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Friday night August 16th, 2002 Mike Kinney fell asleep driving his Ford Ranger. Smashing into a telephone pole, his truck caught fire pinning Mike to the driver’s seat. His best friend Matt, a total stranger, and Jesus sprang into action to rescue Mike. Mike’s a worship leader from Indiana who’s just released his riveting story Out of the Fire: How an Angel and a Stranger Intervened to Save a Life.

First, Mike’s last memory before the accident. (He wouldn’t have his next memory till 6 weeks later). Then, 100 people show up at the hospital that night to pray for Mike. Next, Jesus literally walks into the accident scene. Then, Mike had to see his smashed Ford Ranger. What he saw on the steering wheel knocked him back on his heels.

Next, if you’ve been shattered by life, Mike shares hope with you. Last, a note from a classmate 9 months after the crash that helped Mike realize God’s purpose for his life. And a guitar given by rock legend Pete Townshend that pushed the gospel deep into Mike’s heart. Please share this incredible story!

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Friday night August 16th, 2002 Mike Kinney fell asleep driving his Ford Ranger. Smashing into a telephone pole, his truck caught fire pinning Mike to the driver’s seat. His best friend Matt, a total stranger, and Jesus sprang into action to rescue Mike. Mike’s a worship leader from Indiana who’s just released his riveting story Out of the Fire: How an Angel and a Stranger Intervened to Save a Life.

First, Mike’s last memory before the accident. (He wouldn’t have his next memory till 6 weeks later). Then, 100 people show up at the hospital that night to pray for Mike. Next, Jesus literally walks into the accident scene. Then, Mike had to see his smashed Ford Ranger. What he saw on the steering wheel knocked him back on his heels.

Next, if you’ve been shattered by life, Mike shares hope with you. Last, a note from a classmate 9 months after the crash that helped Mike realize God’s purpose for his life. And a guitar given by rock legend Pete Townshend that pushed the gospel deep into Mike’s heart. Please share this incredible story!

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If you always close your eyes to pray you’ll miss out on some really sweet Jesus adventures! Sherry Harney’s the Director of Spiritual Development at Shoreline Community Church in Monterey, California and author of Praying With Eyes Wide Open. Sherry starts her day with, “Lord I’m available.” Then through the day she’s asking Jesus to show her how to share his love.

And that’s looked like listening to an atheist share why he quit believing so she could help him move one step closer to believing again. Giving up her precious aisle seat for a middle seat to reach a cynical man. Being unexpectedly sent by Jesus from the dry cleaners to be with a dear aunt in the last hours of her life.

Praying the gospel over an elderly woman who up to that moment had been hard-hearted toward God. And standing in a line, listening to a stranger’s troubles, then saying, “Can I pray with you, and we don’t even have to close our eyes!” The adventure is not just for Sherry. The adventure waits for you!

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If you always close your eyes to pray you’ll miss out on some really sweet Jesus adventures! Sherry Harney’s the Director of Spiritual Development at Shoreline Community Church in Monterey, California and author of Praying With Eyes Wide Open. Sherry starts her day with, “Lord I’m available.” Then through the day she’s asking Jesus to show her how to share his love.

And that’s looked like listening to an atheist share why he quit believing so she could help him move one step closer to believing again. Giving up her precious aisle seat for a middle seat to reach a cynical man. Being unexpectedly sent by Jesus from the dry cleaners to be with a dear aunt in the last hours of her life.

Praying the gospel over an elderly woman who up to that moment had been hard-hearted toward God. And standing in a line, listening to a stranger’s troubles, then saying, “Can I pray with you, and we don’t even have to close our eyes!” The adventure is not just for Sherry. The adventure waits for you!

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Shawna’s had a longtime struggle and wonders if it will ever be in the rear view mirror. But she’s learning that if it doesn’t go away, she can still have joy. Then, where do you run when you’re afraid? Perry admits, “Sometimes to YouTube to watch Steph Curry’s basketball handles.” Shawna admits, “Ice cream.”

Next, who’s going to believe in the person that everyone’s thrown under the bus; that everyone’s canceled. Then, joy that defies circumstance. Next, hardship is discipline from God. And discipline is not punishment. Discipline is how the Lord makes us holy. Last, Perry shares, “I don’t want to fear taking my final breath.”

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Shawna’s had a longtime struggle and wonders if it will ever be in the rear view mirror. But she’s learning that if it doesn’t go away, she can still have joy. Then, where do you run when you’re afraid? Perry admits, “Sometimes to YouTube to watch Steph Curry’s basketball handles.” Shawna admits, “Ice cream.”

Next, who’s going to believe in the person that everyone’s thrown under the bus; that everyone’s canceled. Then, joy that defies circumstance. Next, hardship is discipline from God. And discipline is not punishment. Discipline is how the Lord makes us holy. Last, Perry shares, “I don’t want to fear taking my final breath.”

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As a girl Heather Holleman was a complainer, a gossiper, used foul language, couldn’t connect with anybody. But now as an Associate Teaching Professor of English at Penn State, she’s leading colleagues and students into the love of Jesus. The difference is Jesus but it has also been the hard work of learning how to connect at a deep heart level in all her relationships.

And Heather captures all her lessons learned in her new book, The Six Conversations: Pathways to Connecting in an Age of Isolation & Incivility. First, Heather’s life-giving connection with an Uber driver. Then, the moment God awakened Heather from her slumber of self-absorption. Next, in our cancel culture of anger, depression, anxiety, and unforgiveness, what we long for most is warm connections with fellow human beings!

Then, Heather’s atheist colleague who loves hearing about Jesus and so many of her students who come to her asking why she loves and believes in Jesus. Next, believing the best in others. Then, how to have conversations with people who are really uncomfortable opening up. Then, 3 questions our culture desperately needs right now. Last, if you’re afraid of deep conversation or you just feel you’re not conversation gifted, you can learn. Really!

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As a girl Heather Holleman was a complainer, a gossiper, used foul language, couldn’t connect with anybody. But now as an Associate Teaching Professor of English at Penn State, she’s leading colleagues and students into the love of Jesus. The difference is Jesus but it has also been the hard work of learning how to connect at a deep heart level in all her relationships.

And Heather captures all her lessons learned in her new book, The Six Conversations: Pathways to Connecting in an Age of Isolation & Incivility. First, Heather’s life-giving connection with an Uber driver. Then, the moment God awakened Heather from her slumber of self-absorption. Next, in our cancel culture of anger, depression, anxiety, and unforgiveness, what we long for most is warm connections with fellow human beings!

Then, Heather’s atheist colleague who loves hearing about Jesus and so many of her students who come to her asking why she loves and believes in Jesus. Next, believing the best in others. Then, how to have conversations with people who are really uncomfortable opening up. Then, 3 questions our culture desperately needs right now. Last, if you’re afraid of deep conversation or you just feel you’re not conversation gifted, you can learn. Really!

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Shawna admits, “I stay busy so I don’t have to face the pain of losing my dad.” Then, Perry and his bride Teresa poured love on their kids as they grew up, but they also missed it with them. And where they missed it, their kids have wounds. Next, God’s unshakeable promise to be your intimate friend forever, and what it cost him to make that promise.

Then, what is God up to when your life is coming apart? Next, the world is really dark, really evil, lots of bad stuff happening. And what your world needs most right now is your light! Last, whatever you’re facing, God will come through. He really will. And even death can’t keep him from coming through for you. Share this show if it encourages you!

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Shawna admits, “I stay busy so I don’t have to face the pain of losing my dad.” Then, Perry and his bride Teresa poured love on their kids as they grew up, but they also missed it with them. And where they missed it, their kids have wounds. Next, God’s unshakeable promise to be your intimate friend forever, and what it cost him to make that promise.

Then, what is God up to when your life is coming apart? Next, the world is really dark, really evil, lots of bad stuff happening. And what your world needs most right now is your light! Last, whatever you’re facing, God will come through. He really will. And even death can’t keep him from coming through for you. Share this show if it encourages you!

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That’s how Perry felt yesterday as he drove to be with a family member who’s overwhelmed by an emotional, spiritual and mental affliction. On the way he confessed, “Lord I feel so inadequate, so insecure, so incompetent, so weak.” And God said, “I can work with that.”

Then, during the show Shawna wrote, “I feel I’m drowning, that I’m being pulled under by the needs of those I love.” Moments later a friend texted her, “Shawna, I’m praying for you. Praying you can love people well without being pulled into drowning yourself.” God is crazy amazing!

Next, the Grand Canyon difference between the gospel and religion, and what “throw yourself into Jesus” means. Then, our mission is to share the good news of God’s grace till we take our final breath. And leave the results to God!

Next, our culture is grasping for an unshakeable identity in politics, ethnicity, gender, sexual preferences, you name it. And we who know Jesus can seize this cultural moment and show how an unshakeable identity is found only in the perfect love of God.

Last, Five Solas Media creates films for kids, and moms and dads. Stories of faithful people that God has used throughout history to carry on the gospel. And what makes the films extra fun is that the adult actors voices are overdubbed by kids. And they just released John Knox (As Told by Littles)!

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That’s how Perry felt yesterday as he drove to be with a family member who’s overwhelmed by an emotional, spiritual and mental affliction. On the way he confessed, “Lord I feel so inadequate, so insecure, so incompetent, so weak.” And God said, “I can work with that.”

Then, during the show Shawna wrote, “I feel I’m drowning, that I’m being pulled under by the needs of those I love.” Moments later a friend texted her, “Shawna, I’m praying for you. Praying you can love people well without being pulled into drowning yourself.” God is crazy amazing!

Next, the Grand Canyon difference between the gospel and religion, and what “throw yourself into Jesus” means. Then, our mission is to share the good news of God’s grace till we take our final breath. And leave the results to God!

Next, our culture is grasping for an unshakeable identity in politics, ethnicity, gender, sexual preferences, you name it. And we who know Jesus can seize this cultural moment and show how an unshakeable identity is found only in the perfect love of God.

Last, Five Solas Media creates films for kids, and moms and dads. Stories of faithful people that God has used throughout history to carry on the gospel. And what makes the films extra fun is that the adult actors voices are overdubbed by kids. And they just released John Knox (As Told by Littles)!

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Worship leader Taya says that when we hold on to bitterness, it’s like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die. She’s learned this wrestling with her own bitterness. Then, the lost, the broken, the bruised, the forgotten, these are the ones Jesus came for; the ones we must not overlook. Next, it’s seems too good to be true, but it’s true. When you trust yourself to Jesus, he will never count your sins against you! Next, worship leader Taya had been wronged by another believer. This person was in the front row as Taya was leading worship. And her first thought was, “I am going to exact my revenge right now.” Last, when the world sees the church it should be like a drive through the country on a peak fall day.

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Worship leader Taya says that when we hold on to bitterness, it’s like drinking poison and expecting the other person to die. She’s learned this wrestling with her own bitterness. Then, the lost, the broken, the bruised, the forgotten, these are the ones Jesus came for; the ones we must not overlook. Next, it’s seems too good to be true, but it’s true. When you trust yourself to Jesus, he will never count your sins against you! Next, worship leader Taya had been wronged by another believer. This person was in the front row as Taya was leading worship. And her first thought was, “I am going to exact my revenge right now.” Last, when the world sees the church it should be like a drive through the country on a peak fall day.

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You have a parent wound. Because no parent has ever loved perfectly. This leaves us feeling like orphans. Leaves us wondering if we really are loved, if we really do belong. And only the Father, our Abba, our Daddy can heal us. Lead pastor, President of College of Prayer International and author of Just Say Father, Fred Hartley shares his healing journey into the bottomless ocean of Abba’s love.

First, when Fred was a boy he had this unceasing longing to know God intimately, but no one in his church knew God that way. Then, for most of his life Fred saw himself as a pastor, an author, the founder of a missionary movement until Abba reduced him to the bare essential of his identity: Beloved.

Next, Fred’s friend rushed to his three girls who were drowning in a riptide. His friend saved all his girls, but lost his life. This is what Abba has done for us. Then, we need more than a doctrinal understanding of the crucifixion, we need an encounter with the love of God. Last, Father is the shallow entry point into the ocean of God’s love but it becomes the Mariana Trench, a place so deep that we’ll spend eternity plumbing the depths!

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You have a parent wound. Because no parent has ever loved perfectly. This leaves us feeling like orphans. Leaves us wondering if we really are loved, if we really do belong. And only the Father, our Abba, our Daddy can heal us. Lead pastor, President of College of Prayer International and author of Just Say Father, Fred Hartley shares his healing journey into the bottomless ocean of Abba’s love.

First, when Fred was a boy he had this unceasing longing to know God intimately, but no one in his church knew God that way. Then, for most of his life Fred saw himself as a pastor, an author, the founder of a missionary movement until Abba reduced him to the bare essential of his identity: Beloved.

Next, Fred’s friend rushed to his three girls who were drowning in a riptide. His friend saved all his girls, but lost his life. This is what Abba has done for us. Then, we need more than a doctrinal understanding of the crucifixion, we need an encounter with the love of God. Last, Father is the shallow entry point into the ocean of God’s love but it becomes the Mariana Trench, a place so deep that we’ll spend eternity plumbing the depths!

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Vulnerability can be scary. We never know how others will respond. What if we could remove the element of surprise? How much more vulnerable would you be with someone who already knew what you were going to say? And what does that have to do with our relationship with God? That’s where we started on this episode. Then Scott shared that even the hardest times can be wonderful when we realize God is with us. Shawna confessed about her speeding problem & the anxiety it added to her life. Tamara, a Perry & Shawna Mornings listener, recommended a song last week that struck a chord with Shawna. And Shawna shares some devo thoughts about Proverbs 1:7 from Amy Seiffert. Enjoy!

(Music: Build a House by Megan Tibbitts & You Already Know by J.J. Heller)

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Vulnerability can be scary. We never know how others will respond. What if we could remove the element of surprise? How much more vulnerable would you be with someone who already knew what you were going to say? And what does that have to do with our relationship with God? That’s where we started on this episode. Then Scott shared that even the hardest times can be wonderful when we realize God is with us. Shawna confessed about her speeding problem & the anxiety it added to her life. Tamara, a Perry & Shawna Mornings listener, recommended a song last week that struck a chord with Shawna. And Shawna shares some devo thoughts about Proverbs 1:7 from Amy Seiffert. Enjoy!

(Music: Build a House by Megan Tibbitts & You Already Know by J.J. Heller)

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Shawna admits, “When it comes to painful emotions, I don’t deal with them; I refuse to let myself feel them.” Then, here’s what Perry’s learned from his life: “It’s easy for me to look like a loving person on the platform with everyone looking at me. But building a legacy of love happens with 10,000 acts of unnoticed kindness.”

Next, Shawna reveals, “When things get hard in my life, I want to quit.” Then, how Zaira, a Muslim background believer in Jesus was able to keep loving her abusive husband and how Jesus changed him! Last, she posted on an Islamic teacher’s website, “What good deed can I do so that the piles of my grave sins are wiped out?”

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Shawna admits, “When it comes to painful emotions, I don’t deal with them; I refuse to let myself feel them.” Then, here’s what Perry’s learned from his life: “It’s easy for me to look like a loving person on the platform with everyone looking at me. But building a legacy of love happens with 10,000 acts of unnoticed kindness.”

Next, Shawna reveals, “When things get hard in my life, I want to quit.” Then, how Zaira, a Muslim background believer in Jesus was able to keep loving her abusive husband and how Jesus changed him! Last, she posted on an Islamic teacher’s website, “What good deed can I do so that the piles of my grave sins are wiped out?”

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Shawna admits, "I struggle with feeling invisible, that I don’t matter. And so I end up using so much energy trying to prove myself.” Then, Mishal, a delightful Muslim boy used to stutter because as a little boy his father beat him. But when he heard the gospel and believed, Jesus healed his heart and his stuttering. And this delightful boy has something to teach us about sharing Jesus!

Next, Perry admits, “I’m tired of living in the courtroom. I’m worn out from trying to get my identity from my performance.” Then, you’re in a conversation. You want to share your love for Jesus. But it’s just so awkward to move from trivial to spiritual. We’ve got some ideas. Last, original sin, that we’ve been born with the DNA to want to sin is actually good news. Really? Yup. Share this encouragement with someone else!

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Shawna admits, "I struggle with feeling invisible, that I don’t matter. And so I end up using so much energy trying to prove myself.” Then, Mishal, a delightful Muslim boy used to stutter because as a little boy his father beat him. But when he heard the gospel and believed, Jesus healed his heart and his stuttering. And this delightful boy has something to teach us about sharing Jesus!

Next, Perry admits, “I’m tired of living in the courtroom. I’m worn out from trying to get my identity from my performance.” Then, you’re in a conversation. You want to share your love for Jesus. But it’s just so awkward to move from trivial to spiritual. We’ve got some ideas. Last, original sin, that we’ve been born with the DNA to want to sin is actually good news. Really? Yup. Share this encouragement with someone else!

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Only the Holy Spirit can bring the dead things in us to life. Only the Spirit can bring revival. But if we’re afraid of the Holy Spirit, we can’t be changed, and we won’t see revival. David Doerner of Frontline Community Church in Grand Rapids shares why, for most of his life, he’s been afraid of the Holy Spirit.

Then, seeing the Spirit’s miraculous work and experiencing his love heals our fears . Next, David believes that revival is coming to our land through Gen Z. Then, what’s stirring in Gen Z is unlike anything we’ve seen in more than a generation.

Next, we probably already know what the Spirit wants us to surrender. But letting go seems so scary. Last, David just admitted to a friend, “I know I need to forgive someone, but I don’t want to!” That’s when a breakthrough began in his heart. Before God revives our land, he first needs to revive me and you. Please share this show!  

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Only the Holy Spirit can bring the dead things in us to life. Only the Spirit can bring revival. But if we’re afraid of the Holy Spirit, we can’t be changed, and we won’t see revival. David Doerner of Frontline Community Church in Grand Rapids shares why, for most of his life, he’s been afraid of the Holy Spirit.

Then, seeing the Spirit’s miraculous work and experiencing his love heals our fears . Next, David believes that revival is coming to our land through Gen Z. Then, what’s stirring in Gen Z is unlike anything we’ve seen in more than a generation.

Next, we probably already know what the Spirit wants us to surrender. But letting go seems so scary. Last, David just admitted to a friend, “I know I need to forgive someone, but I don’t want to!” That’s when a breakthrough began in his heart. Before God revives our land, he first needs to revive me and you. Please share this show!  

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That’s what Freud said: Our spiritual longings are simply frustrated sexual desires. The opposite is actually the reality:  Our sexual desires, all our desires, are frustrated spiritual longings. Then, if you’re anything like Perry and Shawna what you think is your deepest longing is never your deepest longing.

Next, can you look yourself in the mirror, face the good, the bad, and the ugly. Face your worst failures, the skeletons in your closet. And then say, “Abba I believe you love me?” Because that’s what the gospel offers us. Then, God can do more in a moment of surrender than you could accomplish in a lifetime of striving.

Last, we see our flaws and sins and failures and think “that’s how my world must see me.” But because the light of Jesus is in us, our world sees him way more than they see how flawed we are. An assist from worship leader Jon Reddick.

Perry’s content is based on John Eldredge’s Knowing the Heart of God. Jon Reddick’s audio is from The Walk podcast from Worship Leader Magazine.

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That’s what Freud said: Our spiritual longings are simply frustrated sexual desires. The opposite is actually the reality:  Our sexual desires, all our desires, are frustrated spiritual longings. Then, if you’re anything like Perry and Shawna what you think is your deepest longing is never your deepest longing.

Next, can you look yourself in the mirror, face the good, the bad, and the ugly. Face your worst failures, the skeletons in your closet. And then say, “Abba I believe you love me?” Because that’s what the gospel offers us. Then, God can do more in a moment of surrender than you could accomplish in a lifetime of striving.

Last, we see our flaws and sins and failures and think “that’s how my world must see me.” But because the light of Jesus is in us, our world sees him way more than they see how flawed we are. An assist from worship leader Jon Reddick.

Perry’s content is based on John Eldredge’s Knowing the Heart of God. Jon Reddick’s audio is from The Walk podcast from Worship Leader Magazine.

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If you’re a Jesus follower, you’re a leader. God has given you new life to influence your world. And whether we know it or not, people are watching us, looking to us for direction. Whether you’re a mom, a dad, a pastor of a church, a classmate, a teammate, a truck driver, you name it, you get to make a difference in people’s lives.

Steve Norman of Winning at Home joins the team to show what it looks like to be influencers who change our world. Steve’s a pastor, speaker, life-coach, and author of The Preacher as Sermon: How Who You Are Shapes What They Hear. So in real life this is how leaders change our world: We boast in our weaknesses (Steve needing to preach when his dad was dying), we get our identity not from what we do, but from being Abba’s beloved child.

As leaders, we don’t have it all figured out; we lead with love, not fear. We embrace accountability, (a conversation about the scandals that have rocked the church). As leaders we trust the Holy Spirit when unexpected moments call for words of life. We pursue integrity andadmit where we fall short. Last, we are teachable, anddon’t take ourselves so seriously!

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If you’re a Jesus follower, you’re a leader. God has given you new life to influence your world. And whether we know it or not, people are watching us, looking to us for direction. Whether you’re a mom, a dad, a pastor of a church, a classmate, a teammate, a truck driver, you name it, you get to make a difference in people’s lives.

Steve Norman of Winning at Home joins the team to show what it looks like to be influencers who change our world. Steve’s a pastor, speaker, life-coach, and author of The Preacher as Sermon: How Who You Are Shapes What They Hear. So in real life this is how leaders change our world: We boast in our weaknesses (Steve needing to preach when his dad was dying), we get our identity not from what we do, but from being Abba’s beloved child.

As leaders, we don’t have it all figured out; we lead with love, not fear. We embrace accountability, (a conversation about the scandals that have rocked the church). As leaders we trust the Holy Spirit when unexpected moments call for words of life. We pursue integrity andadmit where we fall short. Last, we are teachable, anddon’t take ourselves so seriously!

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Ben Connelly’s passion is to help us live in the freedom and power of the gospel; to help us avoid the trap of falling into try-harder, I’ve gotta earn it Christianity. Ben is a pastor, author, equipper, and occasional professor and his book that just dropped in September is Reading the Bible, Missing the Gospel.

First, Ben’s parents were super involved in church but didn’t know Jesus. Ben was a youth pastor and didn’t know Jesus. So he intimately knows how easy it is to miss the gospel. Then, religion says “You have to somehow keep earning forgiveness.” The gospel says, “You’re forgiven, you can’t earn it, and when you blow it, don’t be afraid, bring your failures to the One who’s already forgiven you!”

Next, grace gives us the want to live for God, the power to live for God. Because when we sin, we can always come to the One who picks us up, cleans us off, and says, “I believe you will become just like me.” Last, how the bible is not all about us but all about God. And how that takes all the pressure off!

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Ben Connelly’s passion is to help us live in the freedom and power of the gospel; to help us avoid the trap of falling into try-harder, I’ve gotta earn it Christianity. Ben is a pastor, author, equipper, and occasional professor and his book that just dropped in September is Reading the Bible, Missing the Gospel.

First, Ben’s parents were super involved in church but didn’t know Jesus. Ben was a youth pastor and didn’t know Jesus. So he intimately knows how easy it is to miss the gospel. Then, religion says “You have to somehow keep earning forgiveness.” The gospel says, “You’re forgiven, you can’t earn it, and when you blow it, don’t be afraid, bring your failures to the One who’s already forgiven you!”

Next, grace gives us the want to live for God, the power to live for God. Because when we sin, we can always come to the One who picks us up, cleans us off, and says, “I believe you will become just like me.” Last, how the bible is not all about us but all about God. And how that takes all the pressure off!

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As a young married man, Perry’s dad looked out the back window of his house across the field to the house he grew up in and thought, “Is this all my life is going to amount to?” Man, was he in for a surprise.

Then, Shawna shared her deepest fear with a friend. Her friend said, “That could happen.” Shawna’s first reaction to that was nausea. The next was peace. Next, Darren Mulligan of We Are Messengers says, “If we make our music all about us, no matter how spiritual it sounds, we’re just worshipping ourselves.”

Then, worship leader Taya says, “Worship looks like giving up what’s most precious to me, to find a greater Precious. Next, ask Jesus to open your mind to understand his word. Last, maybe the story of Jesus is just a myth. Has that ever crossed your mind? Perry says, “Yup.”

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As a young married man, Perry’s dad looked out the back window of his house across the field to the house he grew up in and thought, “Is this all my life is going to amount to?” Man, was he in for a surprise.

Then, Shawna shared her deepest fear with a friend. Her friend said, “That could happen.” Shawna’s first reaction to that was nausea. The next was peace. Next, Darren Mulligan of We Are Messengers says, “If we make our music all about us, no matter how spiritual it sounds, we’re just worshipping ourselves.”

Then, worship leader Taya says, “Worship looks like giving up what’s most precious to me, to find a greater Precious. Next, ask Jesus to open your mind to understand his word. Last, maybe the story of Jesus is just a myth. Has that ever crossed your mind? Perry says, “Yup.”

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Last night Perry was with someone in his family who doesn’t believe God loves him; who feels he’s under God’s condemnation. And as Perry drove home the Spirit said: “You and those who love him, need to believe for him. Next, the culture says, “The more busy you are, the more successful you are.” Jesus says, “Learn the unforced rhythms of grace.”

Then, Perry and his bride Teresa were in the ancient city of Corinth in Greece looking up at the Acro Corinth, a 1900 foot mountain and Perry thought—“I have to climb it.” He didn’t think, “I get to climb it.” There’s a massive difference between the two!

Next, the day Jesus kissed Shawna on the forehead. Then, Shawna’s challenge: 1-1-1.  Pray for 1 person who doesn’t know Jesus at 1 pm for 1 minute, every day. Last, we don’t want to compete with every other ministry in West Michigan, we want to help every ministry in West Michigan succeed!

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Last night Perry was with someone in his family who doesn’t believe God loves him; who feels he’s under God’s condemnation. And as Perry drove home the Spirit said: “You and those who love him, need to believe for him. Next, the culture says, “The more busy you are, the more successful you are.” Jesus says, “Learn the unforced rhythms of grace.”

Then, Perry and his bride Teresa were in the ancient city of Corinth in Greece looking up at the Acro Corinth, a 1900 foot mountain and Perry thought—“I have to climb it.” He didn’t think, “I get to climb it.” There’s a massive difference between the two!

Next, the day Jesus kissed Shawna on the forehead. Then, Shawna’s challenge: 1-1-1.  Pray for 1 person who doesn’t know Jesus at 1 pm for 1 minute, every day. Last, we don’t want to compete with every other ministry in West Michigan, we want to help every ministry in West Michigan succeed!

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Shawna’s struggle with sin, “I am harmful to myself and others apart from the divine intervention of God.” Then, Perry shares that over the past 2 years he’s able to believe God loves him more deeply than ever because of suffering. Next, what do Sunday Sermons have to do with Perry getting sprayed by a skunk in 7th grade and Shawna earning candy bars?

Then, Perry says: “It’s the only thing that frees me from having to prove myself, from obsessing over my image, that frees me to admit my failures and sins.” Last if you’re feeling the excruciating pain of loss, Asia from Grand Rapids, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener knows that pain and has hope to share with you.

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Shawna’s struggle with sin, “I am harmful to myself and others apart from the divine intervention of God.” Then, Perry shares that over the past 2 years he’s able to believe God loves him more deeply than ever because of suffering. Next, what do Sunday Sermons have to do with Perry getting sprayed by a skunk in 7th grade and Shawna earning candy bars?

Then, Perry says: “It’s the only thing that frees me from having to prove myself, from obsessing over my image, that frees me to admit my failures and sins.” Last if you’re feeling the excruciating pain of loss, Asia from Grand Rapids, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener knows that pain and has hope to share with you.

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Shawna’s struggle with sin, “I am harmful to myself and others apart from the divine intervention of God.” Then, Perry shares that over the past 2 years he’s able to believe God loves him more deeply than ever because of suffering. Next, what do Sunday Sermons have to do with Perry getting sprayed by a skunk in 7th grade and Shawna earning candy bars?

Then, Perry says: “It’s the only thing that frees me from having to prove myself, from obsessing over my image, that frees me to admit my failures and sins.” Last if you’re feeling the excruciating pain of loss, Asia from Grand Rapids, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener knows that pain and has hope to share with you.

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Perry admits: “I get nervous around people who seem to have God all figured out.” But how do you explain the unexplainable? How do you contain the uncontainable? God is awesome. God is other. God is love. Christian apologist and Mathematician, John Lennox, shows us that God defies all our categories and all the boxes we put him in. Then, when you share the stories of Jesus at work in your life you open a door of hope for someone else.

Next, Asia from Grand Rapids unexpectedly lost her 46-year-old husband. And Jesus has inexplicably turned her mourning into dancing. Then, Trisha from Grand Rapids has wrestled with the pain of a daughter who’s chosen a lesbian marriage. In the midst of her pain, Jesus has surprised her with joy. Next, Perry and Shawna wrestle with, “if we cheer others on, if we help others succeed, if we celebrate other’s accomplishments, who’s gonna take care of us??”

Then, in 2020 God began showing Perry some deep-rooted selfishness in his heart toward his bride. And he knew he had to come clean with God and Teresa. Last, if you’re like Perry and Shawna you see the massive gap between you and being just like Jesus. And it can cause us to want to run and hide. There’s a much better way! If today’s show has encouraged you, share it with your friends on social media.

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Perry admits: “I get nervous around people who seem to have God all figured out.” But how do you explain the unexplainable? How do you contain the uncontainable? God is awesome. God is other. God is love. Christian apologist and Mathematician, John Lennox, shows us that God defies all our categories and all the boxes we put him in. Then, when you share the stories of Jesus at work in your life you open a door of hope for someone else.

Next, Asia from Grand Rapids unexpectedly lost her 46-year-old husband. And Jesus has inexplicably turned her mourning into dancing. Then, Trisha from Grand Rapids has wrestled with the pain of a daughter who’s chosen a lesbian marriage. In the midst of her pain, Jesus has surprised her with joy. Next, Perry and Shawna wrestle with, “if we cheer others on, if we help others succeed, if we celebrate other’s accomplishments, who’s gonna take care of us??”

Then, in 2020 God began showing Perry some deep-rooted selfishness in his heart toward his bride. And he knew he had to come clean with God and Teresa. Last, if you’re like Perry and Shawna you see the massive gap between you and being just like Jesus. And it can cause us to want to run and hide. There’s a much better way! If today’s show has encouraged you, share it with your friends on social media.

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Perry admits: “I get nervous around people who seem to have God all figured out.” But how do you explain the unexplainable? How do you contain the uncontainable? God is awesome. God is other. God is love. Christian apologist and Mathematician, John Lennox, shows us that God defies all our categories and all the boxes we put him in. Then, when you share the stories of Jesus at work in your life you open a door of hope for someone else.

Next, Asia from Grand Rapids unexpectedly lost her 46-year-old husband. And Jesus has inexplicably turned her mourning into dancing. Then, Trisha from Grand Rapids has wrestled with the pain of a daughter who’s chosen a lesbian marriage. In the midst of her pain, Jesus has surprised her with joy. Next, Perry and Shawna wrestle with, “if we cheer others on, if we help others succeed, if we celebrate other’s accomplishments, who’s gonna take care of us??”

Then, in 2020 God began showing Perry some deep-rooted selfishness in his heart toward his bride. And he knew he had to come clean with God and Teresa. Last, if you’re like Perry and Shawna you see the massive gap between you and being just like Jesus. And it can cause us to want to run and hide. There’s a much better way! If today’s show has encouraged you, share it with your friends on social media.

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Whatever you think of the big-ness of God’s grace, it’s still way bigger than that! When we believe, he makes the down payment for our forever relationship with him. And then he makes every payment after that till we see him face to face!

Then, singer, songwriter, worship leader, Matt Maher, had something so painful happened to him as a young man, that he would have been willing to cash in his full ride scholarship to buy a sink hole to disappear into. But that’s the moment he realized he needed a mentor.

Then Matt has a challenge for you if you’re young, inexperienced, and think you know it all. And a challenge for you if you’re older, experienced, you do know a lot, but you’re not willing to let go. Next, Shawna admits, “I’ve realized lately that I’m so eager to share what God’s doing in my life, that I’m not taking time to listen to others.” Last, God loves you SO much, it hurts.

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Whatever you think of the big-ness of God’s grace, it’s still way bigger than that! When we believe, he makes the down payment for our forever relationship with him. And then he makes every payment after that till we see him face to face!

Then, singer, songwriter, worship leader, Matt Maher, had something so painful happened to him as a young man, that he would have been willing to cash in his full ride scholarship to buy a sink hole to disappear into. But that’s the moment he realized he needed a mentor.

Then Matt has a challenge for you if you’re young, inexperienced, and think you know it all. And a challenge for you if you’re older, experienced, you do know a lot, but you’re not willing to let go. Next, Shawna admits, “I’ve realized lately that I’m so eager to share what God’s doing in my life, that I’m not taking time to listen to others.” Last, God loves you SO much, it hurts.

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Whatever you think of the big-ness of God’s grace, it’s still way bigger than that! When we believe, he makes the down payment for our forever relationship with him. And then he makes every payment after that till we see him face to face!

Then, singer, songwriter, worship leader, Matt Maher, had something so painful happened to him as a young man, that he would have been willing to cash in his full ride scholarship to buy a sink hole to disappear into. But that’s the moment he realized he needed a mentor.

Then Matt has a challenge for you if you’re young, inexperienced, and think you know it all. And a challenge for you if you’re older, experienced, you do know a lot, but you’re not willing to let go. Next, Shawna admits, “I’ve realized lately that I’m so eager to share what God’s doing in my life, that I’m not taking time to listen to others.” Last, God loves you SO much, it hurts.

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Seems all’s not well with Tom Brady and his bride Gisele Bündchen. After 22 seasons and so much time away from his family, Tom decided to retire after last year’s NFL season. 40 days later he unretired. And it’s put a strain on his marriage. But we’re not her to throw shade on Tom, we just want to talk about how we can make the adjustments we may need to win in marriage. And Dr. Greg Smalley of Focus on the Family joins the team to help us. First Greg can relate with Tom. There was a season in his marriage he wasn’t there for his bride.

Then, Greg’s daughter has had to walk through the death of divorce and Jesus is resurrecting her! Next, why on earth would Shawna want to jump out of a plane on her 50th birthday?? Then, the day Kathy Keller, smashed her finest China to wake up her workaholic husband Tim. Then, the power of taking just 10 minutes a day to heart connect with your spouse. Last, what to do when you’re on a date night, you’ve set out to have fun, to enjoy one another, and conflict rears its ugly head.

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Seems all’s not well with Tom Brady and his bride Gisele Bündchen. After 22 seasons and so much time away from his family, Tom decided to retire after last year’s NFL season. 40 days later he unretired. And it’s put a strain on his marriage. But we’re not her to throw shade on Tom, we just want to talk about how we can make the adjustments we may need to win in marriage. And Dr. Greg Smalley of Focus on the Family joins the team to help us. First Greg can relate with Tom. There was a season in his marriage he wasn’t there for his bride.

Then, Greg’s daughter has had to walk through the death of divorce and Jesus is resurrecting her! Next, why on earth would Shawna want to jump out of a plane on her 50th birthday?? Then, the day Kathy Keller, smashed her finest China to wake up her workaholic husband Tim. Then, the power of taking just 10 minutes a day to heart connect with your spouse. Last, what to do when you’re on a date night, you’ve set out to have fun, to enjoy one another, and conflict rears its ugly head.

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Seems all’s not well with Tom Brady and his bride Gisele Bündchen. After 22 seasons and so much time away from his family, Tom decided to retire after last year’s NFL season. 40 days later he unretired. And it’s put a strain on his marriage. But we’re not her to throw shade on Tom, we just want to talk about how we can make the adjustments we may need to win in marriage. And Dr. Greg Smalley of Focus on the Family joins the team to help us. First Greg can relate with Tom. There was a season in his marriage he wasn’t there for his bride.

Then, Greg’s daughter has had to walk through the death of divorce and Jesus is resurrecting her! Next, why on earth would Shawna want to jump out of a plane on her 50th birthday?? Then, the day Kathy Keller, smashed her finest China to wake up her workaholic husband Tim. Then, the power of taking just 10 minutes a day to heart connect with your spouse. Last, what to do when you’re on a date night, you’ve set out to have fun, to enjoy one another, and conflict rears its ugly head.

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You know Jesus. You have for a long time. But maybe it’s time to rediscover who he really is. Jesse Reeves is church planter and a prolific songwriter. Among his songs, How Great Is Our God, Lord I Need You, Indescribable, Our God, and I Speak Jesus. Jesse toured with Chris Tomlin for 17 years. After that he helped plant Austin Stone Church a mega church in Austin, TX. Then he helped plant Passion City Church in Atlanta. But in 2017 the Lord challenged Jesse through his wife to reboot his life in Jesus.

First, when Jesse’s wife Janet said: “Jesse, you’ve been paid to be a Christian since you were 15; you need to quit going to church for a year to rediscover who Jesus is.” Then, Jesse says, “We have everything in the west, mega-churches, vast resources to reach people for Jesus, but it’s not happening. What if we stripped everything down?” Next, Shawna admits, “I’m so busy, even with Jesus stuff, but I can miss making Jesus the center of my life.”

Then, Jesse Reeves explores why hundreds of thousands of people in America aren’t coming to know Jesus. Next, if you’re a follower of Jesus, you’re a priest, you’re a bridge from people to God and from God to people. This has the power to change your ordinary life into the extraordinary, and bring spiritual awakening to America. Last, Umar went to a church in Nigeria intending to kill Christians, but Jesus had something entirely different in mind.

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You know Jesus. You have for a long time. But maybe it’s time to rediscover who he really is. Jesse Reeves is church planter and a prolific songwriter. Among his songs, How Great Is Our God, Lord I Need You, Indescribable, Our God, and I Speak Jesus. Jesse toured with Chris Tomlin for 17 years. After that he helped plant Austin Stone Church a mega church in Austin, TX. Then he helped plant Passion City Church in Atlanta. But in 2017 the Lord challenged Jesse through his wife to reboot his life in Jesus.

First, when Jesse’s wife Janet said: “Jesse, you’ve been paid to be a Christian since you were 15; you need to quit going to church for a year to rediscover who Jesus is.” Then, Jesse says, “We have everything in the west, mega-churches, vast resources to reach people for Jesus, but it’s not happening. What if we stripped everything down?” Next, Shawna admits, “I’m so busy, even with Jesus stuff, but I can miss making Jesus the center of my life.”

Then, Jesse Reeves explores why hundreds of thousands of people in America aren’t coming to know Jesus. Next, if you’re a follower of Jesus, you’re a priest, you’re a bridge from people to God and from God to people. This has the power to change your ordinary life into the extraordinary, and bring spiritual awakening to America. Last, Umar went to a church in Nigeria intending to kill Christians, but Jesus had something entirely different in mind.

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You know Jesus. You have for a long time. But maybe it’s time to rediscover who he really is. Jesse Reeves is church planter and a prolific songwriter. Among his songs, How Great Is Our God, Lord I Need You, Indescribable, Our God, and I Speak Jesus. Jesse toured with Chris Tomlin for 17 years. After that he helped plant Austin Stone Church a mega church in Austin, TX. Then he helped plant Passion City Church in Atlanta. But in 2017 the Lord challenged Jesse through his wife to reboot his life in Jesus.

First, when Jesse’s wife Janet said: “Jesse, you’ve been paid to be a Christian since you were 15; you need to quit going to church for a year to rediscover who Jesus is.” Then, Jesse says, “We have everything in the west, mega-churches, vast resources to reach people for Jesus, but it’s not happening. What if we stripped everything down?” Next, Shawna admits, “I’m so busy, even with Jesus stuff, but I can miss making Jesus the center of my life.”

Then, Jesse Reeves explores why hundreds of thousands of people in America aren’t coming to know Jesus. Next, if you’re a follower of Jesus, you’re a priest, you’re a bridge from people to God and from God to people. This has the power to change your ordinary life into the extraordinary, and bring spiritual awakening to America. Last, Umar went to a church in Nigeria intending to kill Christians, but Jesus had something entirely different in mind.

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Jesus cares so much for you, and the people in your world, that it deeply pains him. Then, “declare the praises of the One who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light” by honoring the politician you may loathe! Whaaaaat?

Next, Shawna has spent a lot of time worrying in God’s presence and has come away more worried. Now she’s learning to surrender her worries to God and is experiencing more peace. Then, relax! You’re not the Savior of the world. There’s only one of them.

Next, when you were young you may have been told, “You’re stupid, you’re ugly, you’re wicked,” and now you believe it. If so, it’s time for love to set you free. Last, growing to become like Jesus takes effort, discipline, and lots of practice!

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Jesus cares so much for you, and the people in your world, that it deeply pains him. Then, “declare the praises of the One who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light” by honoring the politician you may loathe! Whaaaaat?

Next, Shawna has spent a lot of time worrying in God’s presence and has come away more worried. Now she’s learning to surrender her worries to God and is experiencing more peace. Then, relax! You’re not the Savior of the world. There’s only one of them.

Next, when you were young you may have been told, “You’re stupid, you’re ugly, you’re wicked,” and now you believe it. If so, it’s time for love to set you free. Last, growing to become like Jesus takes effort, discipline, and lots of practice!

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Jesus cares so much for you, and the people in your world, that it deeply pains him. Then, “declare the praises of the One who called you out of darkness into his marvelous light” by honoring the politician you may loathe! Whaaaaat?

Next, Shawna has spent a lot of time worrying in God’s presence and has come away more worried. Now she’s learning to surrender her worries to God and is experiencing more peace. Then, relax! You’re not the Savior of the world. There’s only one of them.

Next, when you were young you may have been told, “You’re stupid, you’re ugly, you’re wicked,” and now you believe it. If so, it’s time for love to set you free. Last, growing to become like Jesus takes effort, discipline, and lots of practice!

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Dane Ortland, pastor of Naperville Presbyterian Church in Chicago and author of Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers, says that if “Jesus really does loves my screwed up life then I think I can keep on being a Christian.”

Then, God created everything. He’s named every single star, and he treasures us above all he’s made! Next, it’s taken Perry a lifetime to get there. But he finally, deeply, believes it: “God loves me!” Then, every time Perry goes to the fitness room he thinks about his friend Andy, it’s the strangest thing! It’s a conversation about praying for each other.

Next, Jesus says, “You don’t have to go through security to get to me; I am the mostapproachable person in the universe.” Last, Shawna wonders, “How can my God, whose heart I know is filled with love let a 3 year old suffocate or a 16 year old die of cancer?

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Dane Ortland, pastor of Naperville Presbyterian Church in Chicago and author of Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers, says that if “Jesus really does loves my screwed up life then I think I can keep on being a Christian.”

Then, God created everything. He’s named every single star, and he treasures us above all he’s made! Next, it’s taken Perry a lifetime to get there. But he finally, deeply, believes it: “God loves me!” Then, every time Perry goes to the fitness room he thinks about his friend Andy, it’s the strangest thing! It’s a conversation about praying for each other.

Next, Jesus says, “You don’t have to go through security to get to me; I am the mostapproachable person in the universe.” Last, Shawna wonders, “How can my God, whose heart I know is filled with love let a 3 year old suffocate or a 16 year old die of cancer?

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Dane Ortland, pastor of Naperville Presbyterian Church in Chicago and author of Gentle and Lowly: The Heart of Christ for Sinners and Sufferers, says that if “Jesus really does loves my screwed up life then I think I can keep on being a Christian.”

Then, God created everything. He’s named every single star, and he treasures us above all he’s made! Next, it’s taken Perry a lifetime to get there. But he finally, deeply, believes it: “God loves me!” Then, every time Perry goes to the fitness room he thinks about his friend Andy, it’s the strangest thing! It’s a conversation about praying for each other.

Next, Jesus says, “You don’t have to go through security to get to me; I am the mostapproachable person in the universe.” Last, Shawna wonders, “How can my God, whose heart I know is filled with love let a 3 year old suffocate or a 16 year old die of cancer?

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When Perry’s dad was young, he so much wanted to know he was in God’s forever family. But he just couldn’t shake the thought: “The best I can hope for is purgatory.” Then social media ads, online shopping, they seem like innocent distractions. But maybe they’re actually ripping us off? Next, the American Jesus isn’t the real Jesus. Last, so many things take up our time and attention, things that won’t matter at all in a hundred years, or even tomorrow. And all these temporary things can rob us of the one thing we need most.

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When Perry’s dad was young, he so much wanted to know he was in God’s forever family. But he just couldn’t shake the thought: “The best I can hope for is purgatory.” Then social media ads, online shopping, they seem like innocent distractions. But maybe they’re actually ripping us off? Next, the American Jesus isn’t the real Jesus. Last, so many things take up our time and attention, things that won’t matter at all in a hundred years, or even tomorrow. And all these temporary things can rob us of the one thing we need most.

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When Perry’s dad was young, he so much wanted to know he was in God’s forever family. But he just couldn’t shake the thought: “The best I can hope for is purgatory.” Then social media ads, online shopping, they seem like innocent distractions. But maybe they’re actually ripping us off? Next, the American Jesus isn’t the real Jesus. Last, so many things take up our time and attention, things that won’t matter at all in a hundred years, or even tomorrow. And all these temporary things can rob us of the one thing we need most.

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Miriam was born and raised Muslim in the Islamic Republic of Iran. And that’s where Jesus found her! First, Miriam’s mom had a dream of a church, and a man standing at the door welcoming her in. When she shared this dream, her friend said, “That’s an actual church!” So when Miriam’s mom showed up at this church, it was exactly as she had seen in her dream and the man was there at the door welcoming her in! Then, dreams, visions, and healings from Jesus in Iran.

Next, Miriam, prays for Iran and America! Then, God is using women in Iran to fuel the great spiritual awakening there. Next, the Iranian militia man who went to other countries hunting down Iranians who had given their lives over to Jesus. He was killed. With kindness. Then, Iran has the fastest growing church in the world! Last, Miriam believes the Islamic regime will fall soon. Not by miliary might, but because of the prayers of the Iranian church. Please share this if it encourages you!

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Miriam was born and raised Muslim in the Islamic Republic of Iran. And that’s where Jesus found her! First, Miriam’s mom had a dream of a church, and a man standing at the door welcoming her in. When she shared this dream, her friend said, “That’s an actual church!” So when Miriam’s mom showed up at this church, it was exactly as she had seen in her dream and the man was there at the door welcoming her in! Then, dreams, visions, and healings from Jesus in Iran.

Next, Miriam, prays for Iran and America! Then, God is using women in Iran to fuel the great spiritual awakening there. Next, the Iranian militia man who went to other countries hunting down Iranians who had given their lives over to Jesus. He was killed. With kindness. Then, Iran has the fastest growing church in the world! Last, Miriam believes the Islamic regime will fall soon. Not by miliary might, but because of the prayers of the Iranian church. Please share this if it encourages you!

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Miriam was born and raised Muslim in the Islamic Republic of Iran. And that’s where Jesus found her! First, Miriam’s mom had a dream of a church, and a man standing at the door welcoming her in. When she shared this dream, her friend said, “That’s an actual church!” So when Miriam’s mom showed up at this church, it was exactly as she had seen in her dream and the man was there at the door welcoming her in! Then, dreams, visions, and healings from Jesus in Iran.

Next, Miriam, prays for Iran and America! Then, God is using women in Iran to fuel the great spiritual awakening there. Next, the Iranian militia man who went to other countries hunting down Iranians who had given their lives over to Jesus. He was killed. With kindness. Then, Iran has the fastest growing church in the world! Last, Miriam believes the Islamic regime will fall soon. Not by miliary might, but because of the prayers of the Iranian church. Please share this if it encourages you!

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In our culture we look inside to find our identity, we look to our feelings, our desires, we look to our performance, we look to what people think of us. Today we’re on a search for an unshakeable identity with Tim Keller, founding pastor of Redeemer Church in NYC. First, the woman who found her identity in her beauty, how that broke her into a million pieces and how all the pieces were put back together. Then, your future self will always tell your present self, “You’re an idiot!” Whaaaaat?

Next, the two actors who were on the cusp of fame and both were rejected. One was devastated and couldn’t move on, the other was really disappointed but pivoted in a new direction.  Then, Tim Keller admits “I want people to think I’m smart.” Next, how getting our identity from our love for Jesus is a trap. Last, Perry shares how the Spirit gave him just the right words to share at a funeral, it was an amazing work of God through him. But how his thoughts quickly turned to “Wow you we’re really impressive.”

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In our culture we look inside to find our identity, we look to our feelings, our desires, we look to our performance, we look to what people think of us. Today we’re on a search for an unshakeable identity with Tim Keller, founding pastor of Redeemer Church in NYC. First, the woman who found her identity in her beauty, how that broke her into a million pieces and how all the pieces were put back together. Then, your future self will always tell your present self, “You’re an idiot!” Whaaaaat?

Next, the two actors who were on the cusp of fame and both were rejected. One was devastated and couldn’t move on, the other was really disappointed but pivoted in a new direction.  Then, Tim Keller admits “I want people to think I’m smart.” Next, how getting our identity from our love for Jesus is a trap. Last, Perry shares how the Spirit gave him just the right words to share at a funeral, it was an amazing work of God through him. But how his thoughts quickly turned to “Wow you we’re really impressive.”

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In our culture we look inside to find our identity, we look to our feelings, our desires, we look to our performance, we look to what people think of us. Today we’re on a search for an unshakeable identity with Tim Keller, founding pastor of Redeemer Church in NYC. First, the woman who found her identity in her beauty, how that broke her into a million pieces and how all the pieces were put back together. Then, your future self will always tell your present self, “You’re an idiot!” Whaaaaat?

Next, the two actors who were on the cusp of fame and both were rejected. One was devastated and couldn’t move on, the other was really disappointed but pivoted in a new direction.  Then, Tim Keller admits “I want people to think I’m smart.” Next, how getting our identity from our love for Jesus is a trap. Last, Perry shares how the Spirit gave him just the right words to share at a funeral, it was an amazing work of God through him. But how his thoughts quickly turned to “Wow you we’re really impressive.”

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Killer” was a brutal teenage soldier. He commanded his child soldiers to barricade Christians in a church and burn it. And Jesus’ love compelled Chet Lowe to cross the ocean to reach him.

Then Shawna has an “I don’t need your help” streak in her. She ended up in a snowy ditch in Michigan and figured she could just dig herself out.

Next, Lynn Austin, award winning Christian fiction writer joins the team. She shares how she gave up on her God given dream to write. And was miserable!

Then, the rejected manuscript that was sent back to her in a garbage bag. It’s a conversation about never giving up on the kingdom dream Jesus has put in your heart.

Next, Perry admits, “My passion for sharing the gospel has grown cold.” Last, your Abba Father is very fond of you. Share the good news, share this show

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Killer” was a brutal teenage soldier. He commanded his child soldiers to barricade Christians in a church and burn it. And Jesus’ love compelled Chet Lowe to cross the ocean to reach him.

Then Shawna has an “I don’t need your help” streak in her. She ended up in a snowy ditch in Michigan and figured she could just dig herself out.

Next, Lynn Austin, award winning Christian fiction writer joins the team. She shares how she gave up on her God given dream to write. And was miserable!

Then, the rejected manuscript that was sent back to her in a garbage bag. It’s a conversation about never giving up on the kingdom dream Jesus has put in your heart.

Next, Perry admits, “My passion for sharing the gospel has grown cold.” Last, your Abba Father is very fond of you. Share the good news, share this show

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Killer” was a brutal teenage soldier. He commanded his child soldiers to barricade Christians in a church and burn it. And Jesus’ love compelled Chet Lowe to cross the ocean to reach him.

Then Shawna has an “I don’t need your help” streak in her. She ended up in a snowy ditch in Michigan and figured she could just dig herself out.

Next, Lynn Austin, award winning Christian fiction writer joins the team. She shares how she gave up on her God given dream to write. And was miserable!

Then, the rejected manuscript that was sent back to her in a garbage bag. It’s a conversation about never giving up on the kingdom dream Jesus has put in your heart.

Next, Perry admits, “My passion for sharing the gospel has grown cold.” Last, your Abba Father is very fond of you. Share the good news, share this show

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If you feel stuck battling the same fears, temptations, lies, and doubts, wondering if you’ll ever overcome them. If it feels like you’re in the battle alone. Judy Dunagan, author of The Loudest Roar has been there. She joins the team to talk about the staggering victory Jesus has won for us and how we can learn to stand firm in his unshakable victory.

First the moment Perry felt cut off from God and asked his dad, “Why isn’t God protecting me??” And Judy shares “I thought I was going to lose my mind to fear.” Then, how the enemy gained a foothold in Judy’s life in middle school through an Ouija board. That’s when she began learning the power of God’s word.

Next Paula Jauch, trauma survivor, and author of Cross Addicted admits, “I almost gave up in my journey to be healed from trauma.” Then, a bruising attack from the enemy and the wall of fire that delivered Perry—a conversation about how God’s armor protects us. Last, what really is God’s armor and how do we put it on?

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If you feel stuck battling the same fears, temptations, lies, and doubts, wondering if you’ll ever overcome them. If it feels like you’re in the battle alone. Judy Dunagan, author of The Loudest Roar has been there. She joins the team to talk about the staggering victory Jesus has won for us and how we can learn to stand firm in his unshakable victory.

First the moment Perry felt cut off from God and asked his dad, “Why isn’t God protecting me??” And Judy shares “I thought I was going to lose my mind to fear.” Then, how the enemy gained a foothold in Judy’s life in middle school through an Ouija board. That’s when she began learning the power of God’s word.

Next Paula Jauch, trauma survivor, and author of Cross Addicted admits, “I almost gave up in my journey to be healed from trauma.” Then, a bruising attack from the enemy and the wall of fire that delivered Perry—a conversation about how God’s armor protects us. Last, what really is God’s armor and how do we put it on?

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If you feel stuck battling the same fears, temptations, lies, and doubts, wondering if you’ll ever overcome them. If it feels like you’re in the battle alone. Judy Dunagan, author of The Loudest Roar has been there. She joins the team to talk about the staggering victory Jesus has won for us and how we can learn to stand firm in his unshakable victory.

First the moment Perry felt cut off from God and asked his dad, “Why isn’t God protecting me??” And Judy shares “I thought I was going to lose my mind to fear.” Then, how the enemy gained a foothold in Judy’s life in middle school through an Ouija board. That’s when she began learning the power of God’s word.

Next Paula Jauch, trauma survivor, and author of Cross Addicted admits, “I almost gave up in my journey to be healed from trauma.” Then, a bruising attack from the enemy and the wall of fire that delivered Perry—a conversation about how God’s armor protects us. Last, what really is God’s armor and how do we put it on?

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Lenny joins the team! Yes, that Lenny. The guy that led Perry to Jesus on the playground in 5th grade. First we take you to the moment at the end of recess when Lenny created an onramp into eternal life for Perry.

Then, Perry always wondered what happened to Lenny. What he didn’t know is that as a young man Lenny decided he didn’t want anything to do with a God who would take away his brother, mom, and dad. Next, Lenny shares what it took to come home to the Father after almost 40 years of carrying the hurt toward God.

Then, Lenny now lives with a lot of physical pain, and he’s overflowing with joy. What makes this guy tick?! Next, there’s nothing like old friends. Last, Shawna uses the Vulcan mind meld to get Perry to open up for crying out loud : ) Please share this show if you’re encouraged by it!

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Lenny joins the team! Yes, that Lenny. The guy that led Perry to Jesus on the playground in 5th grade. First we take you to the moment at the end of recess when Lenny created an onramp into eternal life for Perry.

Then, Perry always wondered what happened to Lenny. What he didn’t know is that as a young man Lenny decided he didn’t want anything to do with a God who would take away his brother, mom, and dad. Next, Lenny shares what it took to come home to the Father after almost 40 years of carrying the hurt toward God.

Then, Lenny now lives with a lot of physical pain, and he’s overflowing with joy. What makes this guy tick?! Next, there’s nothing like old friends. Last, Shawna uses the Vulcan mind meld to get Perry to open up for crying out loud : ) Please share this show if you’re encouraged by it!

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Lenny joins the team! Yes, that Lenny. The guy that led Perry to Jesus on the playground in 5th grade. First we take you to the moment at the end of recess when Lenny created an onramp into eternal life for Perry.

Then, Perry always wondered what happened to Lenny. What he didn’t know is that as a young man Lenny decided he didn’t want anything to do with a God who would take away his brother, mom, and dad. Next, Lenny shares what it took to come home to the Father after almost 40 years of carrying the hurt toward God.

Then, Lenny now lives with a lot of physical pain, and he’s overflowing with joy. What makes this guy tick?! Next, there’s nothing like old friends. Last, Shawna uses the Vulcan mind meld to get Perry to open up for crying out loud : ) Please share this show if you’re encouraged by it!

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The Lord has a 100% track record. He’s never forsaken those who trust in him. So why is it so hard to trust him? Then, Teresa’s son was in the ER, not breathing. And she cried out: “Lord I trust in you!” Next, here’s God’s will for you today: Rule your world. Wait, what? Yup. Then, prayer’s not an magic formula to get whatever we want. Next, Marci loved Jesus. But she loved her desire to have children even more. And the Holy Spirit asked her, “Will you still love me if you never have children?” Last, Perry shares an @timkellernyc tweet. He thinks it’s one of the greatest tweets ever.

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The Lord has a 100% track record. He’s never forsaken those who trust in him. So why is it so hard to trust him? Then, Teresa’s son was in the ER, not breathing. And she cried out: “Lord I trust in you!” Next, here’s God’s will for you today: Rule your world. Wait, what? Yup. Then, prayer’s not an magic formula to get whatever we want. Next, Marci loved Jesus. But she loved her desire to have children even more. And the Holy Spirit asked her, “Will you still love me if you never have children?” Last, Perry shares an @timkellernyc tweet. He thinks it’s one of the greatest tweets ever.

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The Lord has a 100% track record. He’s never forsaken those who trust in him. So why is it so hard to trust him? Then, Teresa’s son was in the ER, not breathing. And she cried out: “Lord I trust in you!” Next, here’s God’s will for you today: Rule your world. Wait, what? Yup. Then, prayer’s not an magic formula to get whatever we want. Next, Marci loved Jesus. But she loved her desire to have children even more. And the Holy Spirit asked her, “Will you still love me if you never have children?” Last, Perry shares an @timkellernyc tweet. He thinks it’s one of the greatest tweets ever.

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Shawna is a pretty amazing rock-climber and somehow this has a lot to do with how much God delights in us : ) Then, Perry’s son Taylor caught the message growing up that he had to earn God’s love. In college it nearly caused him to reject his faith. Instead he leaned into the suffering and doubt. Next, one day all the earth will shout for joy to the Lord. What if we could bring a little bit of that into right now?

Then, Middleville was reeling after the suicide of one of their teens, and so Shawna went to the football field to pray. That’s when God did something in her heart she didn’t expect. Last, in Perry’s journey he has wrestled with fears of being kicked out of God’s forever family. But the struggle has deepened his faith and has given him more confidence in God’s love. He shares some hard won lessons.

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Shawna is a pretty amazing rock-climber and somehow this has a lot to do with how much God delights in us : ) Then, Perry’s son Taylor caught the message growing up that he had to earn God’s love. In college it nearly caused him to reject his faith. Instead he leaned into the suffering and doubt. Next, one day all the earth will shout for joy to the Lord. What if we could bring a little bit of that into right now?

Then, Middleville was reeling after the suicide of one of their teens, and so Shawna went to the football field to pray. That’s when God did something in her heart she didn’t expect. Last, in Perry’s journey he has wrestled with fears of being kicked out of God’s forever family. But the struggle has deepened his faith and has given him more confidence in God’s love. He shares some hard won lessons.

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Shawna is a pretty amazing rock-climber and somehow this has a lot to do with how much God delights in us : ) Then, Perry’s son Taylor caught the message growing up that he had to earn God’s love. In college it nearly caused him to reject his faith. Instead he leaned into the suffering and doubt. Next, one day all the earth will shout for joy to the Lord. What if we could bring a little bit of that into right now?

Then, Middleville was reeling after the suicide of one of their teens, and so Shawna went to the football field to pray. That’s when God did something in her heart she didn’t expect. Last, in Perry’s journey he has wrestled with fears of being kicked out of God’s forever family. But the struggle has deepened his faith and has given him more confidence in God’s love. He shares some hard won lessons.

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Today’s culture is producing confused kids and frightened parents. And Dan Seaborn of Winning at Home says, “Parents, don’t freak out! Kids, you are loved!” Dan’s new book is Winning at Home: Tackling the Topics that Confuse Kids and Scare Parents. First, we do live in crazy times, it’s really hard to parent and really hard to be a kid.

Then, we must be rooted in our identity as loved children of God, and learn to listen to his still small voice if we’re ever going to have a chance to parent well. Next, it’s time to slow down; you and your kids can’t do everything!

Then, helping our kids work through anxiety and depression. Next, what to do when your kids say something like, “I’m gay. I’m lesbian, I’m choosing another gender.” Then, what a mom and dad did when their 13-year-old girl said, “I think I’m a boy.” Next, you can teach your kids life-give ways to use technology. Last, how to empower your kids to become adults.

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Today’s culture is producing confused kids and frightened parents. And Dan Seaborn of Winning at Home says, “Parents, don’t freak out! Kids, you are loved!” Dan’s new book is Winning at Home: Tackling the Topics that Confuse Kids and Scare Parents. First, we do live in crazy times, it’s really hard to parent and really hard to be a kid.

Then, we must be rooted in our identity as loved children of God, and learn to listen to his still small voice if we’re ever going to have a chance to parent well. Next, it’s time to slow down; you and your kids can’t do everything!

Then, helping our kids work through anxiety and depression. Next, what to do when your kids say something like, “I’m gay. I’m lesbian, I’m choosing another gender.” Then, what a mom and dad did when their 13-year-old girl said, “I think I’m a boy.” Next, you can teach your kids life-give ways to use technology. Last, how to empower your kids to become adults.

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Today’s culture is producing confused kids and frightened parents. And Dan Seaborn of Winning at Home says, “Parents, don’t freak out! Kids, you are loved!” Dan’s new book is Winning at Home: Tackling the Topics that Confuse Kids and Scare Parents. First, we do live in crazy times, it’s really hard to parent and really hard to be a kid.

Then, we must be rooted in our identity as loved children of God, and learn to listen to his still small voice if we’re ever going to have a chance to parent well. Next, it’s time to slow down; you and your kids can’t do everything!

Then, helping our kids work through anxiety and depression. Next, what to do when your kids say something like, “I’m gay. I’m lesbian, I’m choosing another gender.” Then, what a mom and dad did when their 13-year-old girl said, “I think I’m a boy.” Next, you can teach your kids life-give ways to use technology. Last, how to empower your kids to become adults.

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This weekend Perry was locked in, focused, competitive, relationally disconnected, and it was just mini golf! Now he’s wondering why it was so important to win. Then, a mentor asked Shawna, Why is it so hard for you to say “no?” It’s a conversation about the tyranny of being a people pleaser. Next, have you blown it, again? Good news, you get anotherdo-over!

Then, one Olympic sprinter said, “I have 10 lonely seconds to justify my existence.” The other said, ”When I run I feel His pleasure.” Next, if you want to be at the right place, at just the right time, being the hands and heart of Jesus, pray with your eyes wide open. Finally, deep down at your core, do you really believe that God loves you? As you are, not as you should be?

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This weekend Perry was locked in, focused, competitive, relationally disconnected, and it was just mini golf! Now he’s wondering why it was so important to win. Then, a mentor asked Shawna, Why is it so hard for you to say “no?” It’s a conversation about the tyranny of being a people pleaser. Next, have you blown it, again? Good news, you get anotherdo-over!

Then, one Olympic sprinter said, “I have 10 lonely seconds to justify my existence.” The other said, ”When I run I feel His pleasure.” Next, if you want to be at the right place, at just the right time, being the hands and heart of Jesus, pray with your eyes wide open. Finally, deep down at your core, do you really believe that God loves you? As you are, not as you should be?

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This weekend Perry was locked in, focused, competitive, relationally disconnected, and it was just mini golf! Now he’s wondering why it was so important to win. Then, a mentor asked Shawna, Why is it so hard for you to say “no?” It’s a conversation about the tyranny of being a people pleaser. Next, have you blown it, again? Good news, you get anotherdo-over!

Then, one Olympic sprinter said, “I have 10 lonely seconds to justify my existence.” The other said, ”When I run I feel His pleasure.” Next, if you want to be at the right place, at just the right time, being the hands and heart of Jesus, pray with your eyes wide open. Finally, deep down at your core, do you really believe that God loves you? As you are, not as you should be?

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Yesterday was an amazing morning for Shawna; God’s word speaking to her deepest needs, just the right song sent from her daughter, an audio book during her workout giving her tools for the battle—it’s a conversation about God giving us exactly what we need, when we need it.

Then, your deepest wish is probably not your deepest wish. Next, she was lashing out at Shawna, and the Lord whispered, “Give her a hug.”  Then, after the loss of his son Truett to an accidental drug overdose in 2019, Toby Mac didn’t think he’d ever write a happy song again.

Next, Shawna doesn’t want to wait till heaven for her mountain to be moved. She’s believing for God to do great things now. But what if the mountain remains firmly rooted? Is that because we don’t have enough faith?

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Yesterday was an amazing morning for Shawna; God’s word speaking to her deepest needs, just the right song sent from her daughter, an audio book during her workout giving her tools for the battle—it’s a conversation about God giving us exactly what we need, when we need it.

Then, your deepest wish is probably not your deepest wish. Next, she was lashing out at Shawna, and the Lord whispered, “Give her a hug.”  Then, after the loss of his son Truett to an accidental drug overdose in 2019, Toby Mac didn’t think he’d ever write a happy song again.

Next, Shawna doesn’t want to wait till heaven for her mountain to be moved. She’s believing for God to do great things now. But what if the mountain remains firmly rooted? Is that because we don’t have enough faith?

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Yesterday was an amazing morning for Shawna; God’s word speaking to her deepest needs, just the right song sent from her daughter, an audio book during her workout giving her tools for the battle—it’s a conversation about God giving us exactly what we need, when we need it.

Then, your deepest wish is probably not your deepest wish. Next, she was lashing out at Shawna, and the Lord whispered, “Give her a hug.”  Then, after the loss of his son Truett to an accidental drug overdose in 2019, Toby Mac didn’t think he’d ever write a happy song again.

Next, Shawna doesn’t want to wait till heaven for her mountain to be moved. She’s believing for God to do great things now. But what if the mountain remains firmly rooted? Is that because we don’t have enough faith?

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December 20th, 1974. The fateful day that would change Chris Carrier’s life forever. That day, walking home from school, Chris was kidnapped just blocks from his home by David McAllister, who drove him out of town, stabbed him, shot him, and left him for dead in the swamps of the Everglades.

Six days later he woke up. 22 years later Chris came face to face with his shooter and did what seems unthinkable. “Sir, I forgive you, and from now on, there will be nothing like anger or revenge between us, nothing except a new friendship.”

And after that, it gets even better! Chris joins the team to share his staggering story of miraculous resurrection, radical forgiveness, and a lifetime of healing from trauma. Please share this show! PG-13: Parents Strongly Cautioned, Guard Young Ears.

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We know our world is broken. From Jesus follower to atheist we long for some kind of rescue. And out of this longing have come hero stories; heroes who win the day; who make all the sad things untrue. But only one story delivers. Because only one hero in time and space conquered death to launch new creation.

We meet up with pastor and author Eric Eichinger, with a conversation about his new book, Lord of Legends. Eric shows how all the great hero stories long for and find their fulfillment in Jesus.  First, Eric ran from his calling to the other side of the world. Then, Perry shares how the Holy Spirit spoke to him as a teenager through Luke Skywalker.

Next, how do we know that the Jesus story is not just another work of hopeful fiction. Then, the promise of a coming rescuer was embedded in every culture at the Tower of Babel. Last, how Jesus immerses us into his story by rescuing us and making us partners with him to heal our world!

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The Resurrection and the Holy Spirit have the power to cause a watching world say about you, “Only God could have done that through them!” Award winning author Erica Wiggenhorn, whose work includes a 2 part study of the book of Acts, joins the team to move us into our unique kingdom purpose lived out in the power of the Spirit.

First, ministry is not for the chosen few. If you’re a follower of Jesus he has called you into his mission to repair your world. Then, we need each other to discover our spiritual gifts—Perry shares how this happened for him in a little Pentecostal church when he was 19. Next, you are exactly where God planned you to be to make the greatest impact for him.

Then, you know that God has forgiven you, but have you forgiven yourself? Next, the Holy Spirit knows what he’s doing when he prompts us to follow a path that doesn’t make sense. Last, if you feel like the worst of sinners and that God will never forgive you; he’s coming for you. Not in wrath, but with furious love!

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Prayer is not something we check off our list each day to earn points with God. Prayer is relationship with the God who SO loves us. We talk with God because he loves us, not to get his love. Speaker, author and hostof the Prayers of Rest podcast, Asherita Ciuciu joins the team to help us thrive in prayer by resting in the grace of Jesus. Her latest book is Prayers of Rest. Daily Prompts to Slow Down and Hear God’s Voice. First, maybe you feel ashamed because you’re just not praying enough, there’s freedom from that.

Then, how our prayers can affect a thousand generations! Then Perry, and singer, songwriter, and worship leader Natalie Grant have 2 things in common: depression andopening up about it. Next, Asherita had come to the end of herself in a power struggle with one of her children. Then, what God brought to Perry’s mind immediately after praying, “Lord is there something else you want to say to me?” Last, the gospel frees us to experience the oceans of God’s love.

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Jesus pushed it deep in his heart to go to a small unreached tribe of people on an island in the middle of nowhere to bring the gospel to them. He prepared for years. When he finally set foot on the shore in 2018 he was killed by that tribe. Was it all for nothing? Not a chance. Todd Nettleton of Voice of the Martyrs joins the team to share the riveting story of John Chau.

First, when news of John’s death hit the world, he was completely thrown under the bus. Then, a major criticism of John was that he was he was totally unprepared. Was he? Next, John had a plan A for his mission: “It will take years for me to plant the gospel here.” And a plan B: “I might be killed.”

Then, first contact with the tribe: A boy from the tribe shot an arrow at him and it stuck in his waterproof bible on Isaiah 65: “I revealed myself to those who did not ask for me; I was found by those who did not seek me. To a nation that did not call on my name, I said, ‘Here am I, here am I.’”

Next, that night John wrote in his journal, “Father forgive them if they kill me.” Then, November 16th, 2018: The day John’s body was planted as a seed on North Sentinel Island. Next, the growing movement of prayer for the Sentinelese tribe because of John’s sacrifice. Last, if God has put a kingdom dream in your heart, start preparing now! Please share this show if you’re moved by it.

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Joby Martin, lead pastor at The Church of Eleven 22 just can’t get over the gospel, neither can Perry’s dad! Then, Perry began praying for the guy next to him and all he could do was weep. It’s what the Holy Spirit does for us all the time! Praying for us with groans that words cannot express. Next, singer, songwriter Zach Williams was running from God ten years ago and how Jesus found him.

Then, it would be hard to find a more horrible person in all the bible, and why the Lord forgave him. Next, when you come to God in prayer as a Jesus follower, before you confess even one sin, you are already clean. Really? Then, maybe there’s a Nineveh in your life, a group of people or a person you think will never turn to Jesus. And if you’re brutally honest, you don’t want them to.

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Winsomely, persuasively, relationally, passionately, lovingly making the case that the bible can be trusted and that Jesus is risen. That’s our calling. And Chris Brooks the host of Equipped with Chris Brooks joins the team to help us do this! First, the most powerful evidence of the risen Jesus is your story. Then, how we can winsomely show that the bible is God’s word.

Next, Dennie, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener used to get her identity from people telling her she was successful and worthy. She needed their affirmation like oxygen. Then, the evidence that Jesus rose from the dead, and an acronym that will help you communicate it. Last, don’t try to win a debate, make it your goal to love the questioner, the skeptic.

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You may feel unwanted but God wants you, God has chosen you! Then, Lenny led Perry to Jesus on the playground at East Side Elementary in Cheboygan and decades later Perry was finally able to say, “thank you!” Next, God has empowered you by the Holy Spirit to build his kingdom in your world.

Then, Annette just lost her 28-year-old son Jeremy; she’s been so consumed by grief. But then she called into Moody Radio and listeners like you loved on her, and poured into her and reminded her of the unshakeable hope that she felt she’d lost. Last, Shawna has moved from a worst case scenario thinker to a woman filled with hope!

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It was a tough first six months of 2022 for Perry. His daughter in law Bri’s cancer, his own depression. But now he has something to draw from the next time life is dark. Then, the unseen, ruthless enemy of your soul is working 24/7/365 to try to get you to think you’re alone. You may feel that, and go ahead and express those feelings to God. But don’t you believe it for even a moment.

Next, Perry throws the mic to Shawna and inexplicably gets the compliment he’s apparently fishing for. : ) Then, an authentic (wink, wink) recording of King David attacking a wild animal with his rod. (Actually it’s a conversation about God’s protection). Last, the world says, “You’ve gotta qualify to get our acceptance.” The gospel is the exact opposite.

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Perry shares how scary and exhilarating it was to be raw and real and painfully honest a few weeks ago at a funeral in his hometown Cheboygan. Then Perry and Shawna Mornings listeners open up about their fears and we pray together! Next, how the gospel humbles our pride and washes over our worthlessness.

Then, Susan VandePol of Matters of Life and Breath, a ministry for widows, shares the excruciating pain of losing her husband and the light of Jesus that shines when all other lights go out. (Widows retreat coming in October)! Last, the things that we’re afraid of are afraid of our God! Please share if this encourages you!

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The Psalms are like oxygen to an astronaut in the cold of space. Today, John Greco, author of The Ascent, Pursuing Timeless Truths and Abundant Emotions from the Psalms joins us to help us breathe in the air of God! First, David is called “a man after God’s own heart.” And yet he commits adultery and murder as a fully mature follower of God. How do we reconcile the two?

Then, John’s son desperately needed his daddy to hold his hand, he was SO frightened. That’s what our Daddy in heaven does for us when we’re afraid, he grabs hold of our hand (Isa. 41:13). Next, Psalm 88 teaches us that even the most godly people despair and can feel like all hope is lost.

Then, perhaps the way to forgiving those who’ve deeply wounded us is to pour out our anger and even hatred to God about those who’ve wronged us. Last, maybe the reason the Lord takes us into hard places, where it’s hard to believe that God is good. Maybe the reason he takes us there is to show us our deepest need: Him!

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Shawna still has no explanation to this day, but for a week or so earlier this year, every time she started her SUV, a voice said, “The Lord is my shepherd, I have everything I need.” Then, Perry gets real about seeing what his eyes shouldn’t have seen and the gift of being able to come home to the Father.

Next, Perry experienced some unexpected green pastures in Nashville a couple weeks back. Then, Shawna shares the crippling anxiety that used to be part of her every single day. Next, the Father will never cancel us for any of our failures. Last, the long, sure journey of Perry’s healing from shame.

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Victor and Enoch took a massive risk of faith. Now they were being hunted. It’s a conversation about how faith means risk and risk means fear. Then, Jesus didn’t come just to forgive, but to make us just like him! Next, Perry was 19, still dirty from the sins of his youth. That’s when the Lord spoke promise to him in a little Pentecostal church in Cheboygan. Then, Shawna’s been feeling restless; she’s been wrestling with God. Nowshe’s knows the reason for the wrestling.

Next, Perry’s daughter in law Bri was called into a deep valley of faith this year, being diagnosed with Hodgkin Lymphoma. A conversation about what the journey has looked like and where it has led. Last, we try to squeeze out a bit of the truth in Psalm 37:23-24, “The Lord makes firm the steps of the one who delights in him; though he may stumble, he will not fall, for the Lord upholds him with his hand.”

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Kandi suffers with debilitating migraines because of allergies. It’s caused her to wrestle with, “Where are you Jesus in my pain?” Her short answer: “Jesus is with me in every ounce of my pain.” Writer and speaker Kandi Zeller joins the team to share her journey with pain and Jesus. First, Kandi used to think God hated her. Then, how our woundedness will always distort how we see God. Next, Kandi admits, “Before my illness I thought I didn’t need anybody!”

Then, the help of the Holy Spirit and the hope of resurrection! Next, Kandi’s allergies keep her inside during the beautiful Michigan summers. But she’s found God’s gifts in losses like these. Then, the comfort and power of praying scripture. Next, Jesus weeps with you in your pain. Next, the healing power of rest and Sabbath. Last, even though Kandi’s body hurts, she’s found creative ways to worship with her body.

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Patrick was following Jesus, reading the word, praying. But he was addicted didn’t even realize it. Until someone asked him a tough question. That’s when Patrick’s need for freedom and Jesus’ power through 89.3 collided. Then, knowing where your story is headed because of Jesus, helps us stand when everything in and around your life is falling apart.

Next, reminding yourself of the gospel; swimming in the gospel will cause you to become the gospel; to become the love of God to your world. Last, if you follow Jesus your bad things will turn out for the good, your good things can never be taken away, and the best things are yet to come. Sound too good to be true? Please hear us out!

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Shawna’s friend needed help. She felt the pressure to have the right answer. But then Shawna realized, “I should just ask Jesus to speak directly to my friend.” And He did! Then, Jesus knows how to make the greatest impact through you. And to do so, sometimes he’ll ask you to make a change that just doesn’t make sense. Next, God doesn’t want us to stuff our emotions. He also doesn’t want us to spew our emotions onto everyone around us. But he does want us to bring the whole of our emotions to him. And the Psalms show us how. Then, in the gospels Jesus so often called himself “the Son of Man.” It’s a name that should cause us to fall on our faces before him! Last, he prayed for his doctor, who wanted nothing to do with faith. In that moment, it seemed like an epic fail. But not now!  

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Got anxious kids? Don’t we all. It’s totally normal, and kind even be good, to feel afraid. Fear keeps us from doing harmful things. But anxiety can be downright debilitating. Are there tools that can help our children to deal with their anxiety in a healthy way. You bet there are. Emilie DeYoung is a counselor with Winning at Home. She specializes in working with kids, teens and families. She joined us to share how Peanut Butter Pie & H.A.L.T. are useful tools for bringing peace to anxious hearts.

Scott and Shawna discuss living wholehearted for God, experiencing God’s presence in unlikely times, loving those that are hard to love, and Jesus’ return. Yep, there’s a little bit of everything in today’s episode. So glad you’re here! Enjoy!

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What does it mean to “keep in step with the Spirit”? What keeps us from walking with God through life? How can we shift our focus from the obstacles to the goal? Adult Pastor at Frontline Church, Cody Mahaffey, joined us in studio to answer all these questions and to share stories from his own life that help us to see the beautiful invitation of God to walk with Him each and every day.

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We covered a lot of ground in today’s conversation. From pouring out our hearts to God, to wrestling with the question, “Am I beyond being saved?” we talk about who God is and who He’s called us to be. Scott gets honest about being tempted to grumble. Shawna confesses that she changes her mind often and convinces us that it’s a good thing! They both discuss submission and brokenness. Yep, they covered everything but the kitchen sink. There’s sure to be something in here for you! Enjoy!

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Perry’s friends, Jim and Shirley, went to the coffee shop ready to share Jesus’ love. Who the met was a man mocking their faith. At first. And then…Give a listen to this amazing story! Then, if you need courage, a courage that’s beyond what you’re capable of; let 11-year-old Ben show the way. Next, it would take you 25,000 years at the speed of light to reach the edge of the universe. And that has everything to do with God’s love for you, it's pretty incredible.

Then, gospel literally means good news—Perry and Shawna explore the wonders of the good news. Next, Abel, the son of Adam and Eve had more faith that Jesus’ disciple Thomas! Then, Chris, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener shares how the storms in his family have brought his daughter Hannah into Jesus’ forever family. Last, Shawna knows shoes. And so when Shawna says, “You cannot go without these special shoes,” you would be a wise Jedi to listen.

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The most stunning thing about his resume is that he’s known and loved by Jesus and that his name is written in heaven. Singer, songwriter Colton Dixon, is a two-time Dove award winner. In 2012 he was voted a fan favorite, making it to the top seven on season 11 of American Idol. This is Colton’s story.

First, Colton was 13, singing “I Can Only Imagine" at a piano recital; parents were crying and that’s when he knew God had a plan for his music and then finding his identity not in the success of his songs but in being loved by God. Next, Colton had ZERO plans to audition for American Idol. Even standing in the audition line with his sister. Twice.

Then during his time on Idol he never started a conversation about his faith but had so many conversations about it! Next, the shift in Colton’s thinking from “my fans are meant to serve me” to, “I’m called to serve my fans.” Then, the devil’s massive overpromises that destroy us. The backstory of Colton’s song Devil Is a Liar.

Next, the terrifying moment at the birth of their twins when baby Dior was not breathing. Then, faith is not the absence of fear. It’s falling into the fear, trusting in Jesus. The backstory of Build a Boat. Last, those moments when coincidences are really miracles from God. The backstory to Colton’s song “Miracles.” Please share this show!

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The Psalms express nearly every emotion, from despair to joy. They meet us where we’re at and help us find our way to the Lord. Amy Seiffert has gone deep into the Psalms to find healing and she joins the team to help us go deep. Amy’s the author of Grace Looks Amazing On You and she also serves on the teaching team at Brookside Church in Bowling Green.

First, the moment Amy felt the enormous weight of sin being lifted from her. Then, how Jesus has healed Amy from the deep wounds of sexual abuse. Next, the key to being led by Jesus: humility. Then, Psalm 88 ends with darkness and despair, it doesn’t resolve. About that Amy says, “I kinda think that’s awesome!”

Next, the hardest moment in Amy’s life and the power of Psalm 23. Then, how Psalm 46 shows us how God loves broken sinners. Then, the Psalms show us that as we pour out our raw emotions to God, we see him for who he really is. Last, the Psalms are like a song playlist. Choose the one the fits your mood and encounter the living God!

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Perry admits, “I’ve chased so many things in life trying to fill my heart, heal my heart, heal my shame, to try to fix myself.” Then, Shawna breaks down how to read the bible for all its worth. Next, his name meant “liar, cheat, conman, thief, deceiver.” And when he finally owned who he was, God gave him a new name. Then, Perry and Shawna admit to being easily offended because of their struggle with pride.

Next, this last weekend Perry was in his hometown of Cheboygan and was remembering lots of good things, but also remembering some great big failures.  And Kristin, from Grand Rapids, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener has some powerful encouragement for Perry. Last, the Lord doesn’t condemn us for being afraid, that’s when he comes really close. Share this show if it encourages you!

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In sharing our faith, telling people, “You need Jesus,” is nowhere near as powerful as sharing, “It is so beautiful to know Jesus’ love.” The latter creates longing.

Next, we have so many loves that compete for our affections—these other loves are idols, and they suck the life from us. Only the love of a perfect Father can swallow our lesser loves and give us life to the full.

Then, everyone we meet is fighting some kind of battle, has some kind of secret pain. And our kindness and gentleness may be just what God uses to bring them healing.

Next, if Jesus prompts you to reach out in love, out of your comfort zone, and you miss it because of fear, or busyness, remember this, you can always circle back and take a do-over!

Then, Perry admits that his pride keeps God from working in his life but that humility always opens the door. Last, God sees the struggle your life, he hears your cry, especiallywhen you think he doesn’t.

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Perry’s greatest failures as a teen were turned into hope for his friend Matt, many years later. Then, if you’ve blown it big time with God and you find it hard to believe God could ever forgive you, Perry can relate. Next, at the Perry and Shawna Mornings Coffee Club at Jumpin’ Java in Grand Haven, Shawna and Lucy talk about Jesus reaching Lucy through 89.3 just when she was ready to turn away from him. Then, Jesus asked Perry to give away his precious Ovation guitar. It was more than giving away a prized instrument, it was laying down an idol. Something he still has to do! Last, at the Coffee Club Shawna talks with Perry and Shawna Mornings listener Jack who shares the clever way 89.3 became his number 1 preset.

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Greg Stier has a God dream—to see the 1 billion teenagers in the world be captivated by the Jesus’ love and mobilize them to share Jesus with the world. Greg’s the founder of Dare 2 Share, a movement helping youth leaders empower students to reach our planet with the gospel!

First, Greg grew up in a violent family, 5 violent uncles, a violent mom who wanted to abort him. His uncles told him he was a girl because he didn’t have a dad. In the midst of this chaos a southern preacher nick-named Yankee, brought Jesus’ love into the pain and shame.

Then Camren was bullied by his drug dealing dad, and Ashley thought love was about giving her body away. Both were reached by teenagers who were equipped through Dare 2 Share. Next, there’s only one reason God created us—To share the love and joy he has always experienced.

Then, Greg schools us in sharing our faith! Next, Gen Z can change the world for Jesus. Last, equipping Gen Z-ers to reach wounded students before they ever consider shooting their classmates. Share this if it encourages you!

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Shawna used to be afraid to go to the grocery store—she was so filled with anxiety, but she’s not that girl anymore! And there’s one reason why. Then, we’re in a struggle with sin, but it’s a struggle we can’t lose because of the Holy Spirit. We get an assist from Rod VanSolkema, Crossroads Bible Church, Grand Rapids. Next, the strategy for winning over sin is putting our evil desires to death. But what does that mean?? Then, it’s the discipleship practice that has the most power to mold us into the image of Jesus. Finally, we’re being renewed into the glory and image of God through the Spirit of God!

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We’re in a battle against an unseen enemy who’s stronger than us. But Jesus has given us everything we need to prevail. We’re talking spiritual warfare with Steve Norman. Steve’s a pastor, speaker, author, and life coach. And he’s host of the Hope Through Hard StuffPodcast.

First, angels are alongside us in our battle against the enemy, Perry shares the story of his dad and 2 angels. Then, the enemy will try to terrify us to distract us from keeping our eyes on Jesus. Next, it’s possible to give the devil a foothold—through holding onto anger.

Then, how the enemy works to destroy our unity as believers and how we can take our stand against him. Next, humility is key in overcoming the devil and his evil minions. Last, don’t ever forget that the enemy has been defeated by Jesus and is limited in his power. Share this if it encourages you!

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Shawna puts a high value on feeling safe which is such a challenge in an unsafe world. That’s why, “Be still and know that I am God (Ps. 46:10),” means SO much to her. Then, Jenny, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener, in her nurse’s job, was being bullied by a doctor. That’s when she found uncommon courage to confront him, but with great tact and wisdom. 

Next, the culture says truth is like the wind, always changing, unpredictable. God says truth is like a compass; sure, unchanging, leading us to life. Then, Jenny had been struggling with her weight; she was having heart troubles and one night she was gripped by the terrifying thought, “I’m going to die in bed and I won’t be found for days.” That’swhen a supernatural peace flooded her heart.

Next, when Jesus cried, “My God why have you forsaken me,” from the cross it was a signal of his resurrection and of the rescue of the world! Last, Shawna had a friend coming over who tried and tried but couldn’t find her house, so she went back home dejected. That’s when Shawna went the extra mile. It’s conversation about being “devoted to on another in love.”

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It was tough week for Shawna; wrestling, struggling, crying out to Jesus for help. And Jesus answered, “You need only to be still.”

Then Bobbie, a Jewish woman had drifted from her Jewish roots, got involved with the occult and became tormented by an evil spirit. And that’s when Jesus appeared to her. And she said to Jesus, “Why you? I’m Jewish!” And Jesus said, “So am I.”

Next, you don’t want to be on the receiving end of mama bear Shawna! Some unfortunate young people found that out when they almost caused an accident that could have killed her little ones.

Then, Elaine, a young Jewish woman was wrestling; “how can I make restitution for all the wrongs I’ve done?” Then she heard someone use the words, “born again,” and she thought, “that’s what I need, but what is it?”

Last, if you’re a Jesus follower, you’re an influencer, you get to help people know and grow in Jesus. Perry’s shares the strategy for leading well.

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If you’re not experiencing joy in your relationships. If you think joy only happens when it mysteriously happens, and it rarely happens; Chris Coursey joins us to show that we can have consistent joy in our relationships. Chris is a counselor and author; he and his bride Jen, are the creators of Thrive, that uses brain-based exercises to help us thrive in our relationships. At the core, consistent joy in our relationships happens when draw from joy-packed relational memories stored in our brains. It’s crazy good stuff.

First Chris shares how he grew up thinking God was angry with him. Then, if you can’t believe that Jesus is glad to be with you, it’s because you’re seeing him through your wounds. Next, how to turn the joy switch on! Then, a moment of pure joy; when Chris’s crying newborn son suddenly stopped when he heard Chris say, “Daddy’s here.” Next, how Chris reset to joy when an irate driver was right on his bumper. Last, how we reset to joy in conflict. Share today’s show if it encourages you!

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First, Perry shares how his wounds of shame have been a good friend on his journey. Then, on Monday Shawna wrote in her journal, God, help! Why aren’t you doing something about all this pain? Please come! Louis Lapides, a young Jewish man in New York City was challenged by a street preacher to consider Jesus as Israel’s Messiah. So he started reading the Hebrew scriptures. When he came to Isaiah 53, it seemed a perfect match to Jesus. He concluded that Christians had changed that scripture in their bible. That’s when he asked his mom for a Jewish bible.

Then, the bible gives us supernatural wisdom to navigate life skillfully. Last, the wounds of our nation run deep: racism, violence, slandering politicians, addiction, the alt right, the radical left. And the only way our land can be healed is if we, God’s people, humble ourselves, pray, seek his face, and turn from our wicked ways. Randy and Marcia Heckman of Grand Awakening join the team to point us to a powerful prayer gathering coming to Kalkaska on Friday, July 22nd that will give us a space to pray, to seek, to turn, that our land might be healed.

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God’s word is SO powerful. It transforms and renews us with the very life of God himself. And to experience that power we need to open the book. Then, as Jesus followers we are unstoppable because he’s given us his authority. That authority is seen through signs, wonders, and miracles, but it’s also seen in suffering and death. Next, the path of the Lord leads to life but to see the path we need humility and obedience.

Then, Shawna admits she’s so easily enticed by the world. But every time she tries to satisfy her deep down thirst from what the world offers, she’s left so unsatisfied. Next, God has put a kingdom dream in your heart. You didn’t hear wrong! But what you may not realize is that those dreams grow in God’s time, not ours. Last, like a coin, faith is two-sided. On one side is the powerful acts of God through us. On the other side is trusting God through seasons of pain.

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Just the other night Perry felt the oppression of our unseen enemy. It was like he was saying to Perry “You are mine.” It’s in those moments that we need to know the authority of Jesus that flows through us! Then, the great apostle Paul was a battle-tested mature Jesus follower. But something happened during his 3rd missionary journey that crippled him with fear—It’s a conversation about what the Lord is teaching us when we’re overwhelmed by fear. Next, the word of God doesn’t restrict us and rob us of life, his word frees us to live life to the full!

Then, the culture and our own hearts push us to work and never stop—Jesus leads us to rest and recharge so that when we do work, his life flows in us and through us. Next, the other night Perry had a freak-out moment, he got some unsettling news and his mind raced to worst-case scenarios. It’s a conversation about how the storms that make us afraid are the same storms that build our trust. Last, if you’ve been betrayed, Jesus knows your deep pain, if you’ve been the betrayer, Jesus still loves you and offers his forgiveness.

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It’s one thing to believe Jesus loves you when you think you’re all put together, it’s quite another to believe he loves you after a train wreck failure. Then, sinful thoughts can lead us into failure, anxious thoughts can end up crippling us with fear. It’s a conversation about “taking captive every thought to make them obedient to Jesus.”

Next, in our journey with Jesus we need someone out in front of us, blazing a trail we’ve never taken, we need someone beside us giving us the courage to take the next step when our courage is failing. And we need someone behind us who needs our footprints to find the trail. Last, if you want to check the condition of your heart, listen to the words that come out of your mouth.

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We say things to ourselves we would never say to someone else: “You’re so stupid”, “You’re never going to change”. What if we started speaking scripture over ourselves instead? Big changes can be overwhelming but tiny changes can have big impact in your walk with God.  There are countless benefits for trusting God in life but often we forfeit those benefits. How can we learn to trust God more and experience his promises in our lives? If you’ve blown it big time, take a cue from David & ask God to create a clean heart and a new spirit in you. Following Jesus is a daily journey. We’re so glad to be on the journey with you.

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Another shooting. 309 mass shootings so far this year in America. Heartbreaking! What’s going on? We’ve lost our fear of God. What can we do? Move into the chaos with compassion and the heart-changing gospel of Jesus! Then, Annabel moved to NYC to pursue her acting dreams. Then the pandemic hit and that created the space for her to consider Jesus. Next, Perry knows he’s forgiven but sometimes feels overwhelmed by all his sins—it’s a conversation about how it’s human to feel our faults, and that Jesus longs for us to express those feelings to him.

Then, it’s a lie that Shawna always hears in her mind—“I’m not wanted.” Last, Miranda grew up in an atheist family, but after coming out of a brutally toxic relationship as a young woman, one night she sensed a loving presence in her room. It was Jesus preparing her heart for an awakening. Both Annabel and Miranda were found by Jesus through the Alpha Film Series which creates a non-judgmental space to explore the big questions of life. Perry is leading an Alpha group via zoom. If you’d like to know more text 800.968.8930.

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God considers us perfect now. But in real time we’re in process, we’re being made perfect.  It’s the beautiful paradox of the gospel! Then, when God puts a dream in your heart, expect a season of preparation. Next, Messiah Jesus heals us to build his Kingdom. Then, whatever platform you have is your promised land—your place to put God on display. Next, who can you come alongside to help them level up in their impact for the Kingdom? Finally, it’s not how much we intellectually know about the word, it’s how deep the word goes into us that creates life change.

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His brothers viciously sold him into slavery. And when Joseph the slave became Joseph the prince, instead of exacting vengeance, he chose to give his brothers a second chance—We’ve been given a second chance to give those who’ve sinned against us a second chance. Then, Shawna wants you, and everyone to know what she’s been rescued from!

Next, Moses committed murder and God choose him to lead his people out of slavery—our past doesn’t define our future because of Jesus. Then, how God uses the worst and hardest parts of our lives to encourage others. Next, we long for hard circumstances to change while God works through our circumstances to change us! Finally, your past, as dark as it may be, can change someone’s future.

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Every night she would beat herself up over the events of the day. Now she goes to bed grateful for God’s presence with her and sleeps in peace. Only God could do that work in Shawna’s life. She shares her story in today’s episode. You’re just like Lebron James! Last month he tweeted about feeling lonely. I’m guessing you’ve felt that way too. Scott and Shawna talk about where that feeling comes from and what to do when we feel lonely. “Jesus was a good teacher, but he wasn’t God.” “The Holy Spirit can lead you to do things that are forbidden in God’s Word.” Believe it or not, statistics show that many young believers have these and other non-biblical beliefs about God. If we aren’t in the word of God ourselves we are susceptible to be led by culture, even cultural Christianity, instead of being led by God in His Word. Finally, what if the thing that keeps you from living free is YOU? We cover a lot of ground in this episode. Glad you chose to join us today!

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The Bible is The Word of God – God’s Word to you and me! In it we are reminded who God is, who we are, and what we are to be about in our day to day lives. God instructs us in His Word how to live with difficult people, with people who are easy to love, those who are struggling and those who are thriving. Shawna shares some tips in this episode on how to set a simple, repeatable pattern in your life for getting into the Word. Scott shares what Jesus says about those who sit at His feet to learn from Him. And Shawna and Scott share the unlikely gift that comes from spending time WITH God. This is good! God is good! Enjoy!

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“I’m not focused on my healing. I’m focused on God’s glory.” Charity East was diagnosed with cancer in January of 2022. For the last 18 weeks she’s been going through chemotherapy treatments and she still has a long road ahead of her. But through it all she has experienced peace. How can that be? She knows she’s going to be ok. How does she know that? Her identity is not in her role as mom, wife, daughter, fitness guru, or even how she appears. Her eternal identity is found only in her relationship with her heavenly Father. Hear Charity’s story, be encouraged in your own story, and surrender your life to God as you listen to today’s episode. Thanks Charity, you’re a rock star!

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Do you ever feel like there must be more to knowing Jesus? Do you long for an experience with the living God? Do you wish you could just have a conversation with him, talk with him, and listen to Him? Have you ever wondered if there was something you could do to unlock the power of God in your life? If you answered, “YES!” to any of these questions you are going to love this episode!  Jon Mitchell is the Growth Director of the College of Prayer International & oversees Revival Now Media. He joined us in studio and we had a great conversation about the power of prayer, experiencing the manifest presence of God, hearing God’s voice, the key to the empowerment of the Holy Spirit, and how to experience intimacy with God. Yeah! It’s a good one! Enjoy!

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Delayed obedience = Disobedience! That’s how I see it as a mom but as a child of God, that’s convicting. Are you delaying obeying God? Shawna shares how God convicted her on this matter.  Then we talk about the recent Rowe v. Wade decision. What does this mean for those of us who follow Christ? Learning is a normal part of following Jesus and living for him. Scott Curtis shares what it looks like to embrace a posture of learning. During the summer months it can be challenging to keep a rhythm of getting into God’s Word. To help us all consistently read scripture we are reading through the Psalms together this summer. Shawna shares what stood out to her from Psalm 25.

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We have a new leader for all of Moody Radio across the US! Wes Ward joined Moody as the VP of Broadcasting in February.  First, Wes shares our vision—to encourage you to be all in with Jesus and remind you to rest in the reality that you don’t have to be all put together! Then, Wes relates more with the older brother in the parable of the prodigal son.

Next, Wes can see all that Jesus has done through Moody Radio but he sees that Jesus wants to do so much more. Then, it’s our first Perry and Shawna Mornings Coffee Clubof the summer at 317 Coffee! Shawna talks with Cindy who shares, “I get down, but Jesus lifts me up through Moody Radio.” And Sue who is so grateful that we honestly share our real life struggles.

Next, Wes Ward shares that Moody Radio exists for Jesus’ glory and for YOU. Then, another check in at the Coffee Club, Kate shares how Jesus found her through Moody Radio. Next, the staggering story behind Hope Darst’s Peace Be Still. Finally, Wes says, “trusting completely in the Holy Spirit, Moody Radio is about to take some really bold steps in the years ahead.”

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God created our sexuality, our sexual desires, to reveal the depths of his love. That may sound strange in a world of massive sexual brokenness. But it’s a vision that desperately needs to be recovered. That’s Juli Slattery’s vision. She’s a clinical psychologist, and co-founder of Authentic Intimacy, a ministry dedicated to reclaiming God’s design for sexuality. She joins the team to share about her latest book, God, Sex, and Your Marriage.

First, it was when Juli was 14, filled with fear and anger about moving away from everything she knew, that she surrendered to Jesus. Then, God created sex to reveal his pursuing, faithful, passionate, unselfish love. Next, remaining pure until your married is not what makes us pure! Then, Perry opens up about the wounds of shame he has from sexual sin as a teen. It’s a conversation of how Jesus heals shame.

Next, our sexual desires are ultimately a longing to experience the reckless love of God. Then, if you want to know how to talk with your kids about sex, you can’t miss this part! Wow. Next, whenever selfishness and sex meet, sex is shattered. Finally, why Jesus chose Juli for this daunting task to bring healing to our sexually broken world. If you’re encouraged by our conversation with Juli, please share!

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Maybe in those honest, middle-of-the-night moments you realize you’re deeply wounded, empty, broken. We all are.  We’re all broken and we all need the gospel. We’re talking healing for our woundedness with our good buddies David Doerner and Cody Mahaffy of Frontline Church. First Cody felt from a very young age that it was on all him to fix his life and it terrified him.

Then, how we self-medicate to heal our wounds when only one thing is needed: Surrendering to Jesus. Next, bringing our mess into the light. Then, Perry shares his wound of shame that started with Perry and porn and what he thought his mom thought of him because of the porn. Then, the healing conversation that Perry had with his mom many years after that wounding experience and finally, years after that, how he was able to share that healing with his mom in the last year of her life.

Next, it’s so painful to bring our pain into the light. Finally, when Shawna was in her early 20’s, she had a plan to take her own life because she believed those around her would be better off without her. It’s a conversation about how Jesus turns our wounds into a way to heal the wounded. Finally, how God sends his powerful word to heal us!

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Sin is not like having a bad headache, it’s like drinking cyanide. The really good news is that Jesus drank that poison that we deserve so that we can live forever! Then, Shawna was feeling the loss of her dad on her first Father’s Day without him. She wasn’t able to carry the grief on her own and that’s when two friends stepped in. Next,  Perry shares, “My thirst for sex and applause as a teenager was a thirst for God. What I thought would satisfy only wounded me with shame. It was like trying to quench my thirst with salt water.” Then, how do we get direction from the Lord when we don’t have chapter and verse to show us. That’s what Shawna’s wrestling through. And finally, Stephanie, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener told Perry that he was right about some advice he gave Shawna. Man, don’t encourage this guy! : )

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When Shawna was in her early 20’s she was crippled by anxiety. Over the years Jesus has chipped away at those deep insecurities and has given her the deeply rooted identity of being Abba’s beloved daughter. It’s a conversation about how the risen Jesus is alive and at work in us.

Then Cold Case Detective, J Warner Wallace was an atheist at 35. But someone described Jesus as “a wise sage,” and it caused him to read the gospels. What captured him about the gospels is that they read like real history from people who were there. It launched him on a journey to find out the truth using his cold case detective skills.

Next, if you feel like you’re just not enough, that you don’t have anything to bring to the table, that your voice doesn’t matter, that your little life just doesn’t move the needle at all, if that’s you, it’s a conversation about how all of that is just not true! Finally, J Warner Wallace had one big hurdle to jump to put his faith in Jesus. It was his bias against the miraculous.

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He’s willing to go there. To share honestly about his own struggles and failures as a dad and share the deep wounds of growing up with an abusive father. Authentic communicator, author, and founder of Winning at Home, Dan Seaborn joins the team to talk about growing up in South Carolina with a deeply wounded father who inflicted deep wounds in his heart, and how Jesus’ love has healed his heart. He shares our need to find our identity not in what we do, but in the Father’s perfect love.

He remembers overhearing his dad say, “I wish Dan had never been born.” He talks about his beloved daughter whose life went off the rails and how he could not fix it. He gives an on ramp to experiencing God word on a deep level—he took 7 years to go through Psalms and Proverbs: One. Verse. At. A. Time. Finally Perry asks Dan how Jesus is giving him more freedom from the chains that keep us from experiencing God’s love. And Dan turns it around and asks Perry! Share this amazing show!

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As a dad Jeff Kemp is willing to say, “I got it wrong, I’m sorry,” and that humility is what makes him such a great dad coach. Jeff played 11 years in the NFL and now he champions fatherhood, being a real man, and going deep in man to man friendships through his work at the Fatherhood Commission.

First, Jeff was striving to achieve his identity and found out that’s it’s a gift to be received. Then, coming out of the dark of isolation into the light of deep, honest, real, life-giving friendships. Next, how the film Show Me the Father is changing lives.

Next, as long as your kids are breathing, it’s never too late to apologize. Then, the #1 thing we need to give our kids—identity. Next, if you’re a new dad, some golden wisdom for you. Then, a real man uses his strength for others. Finally, the core of ending the violence of young men in our country. Please share!

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Shawna longed for God to work through her at a prayer and healing gathering. So she asked him, “Is there any sin that would keep me from being a channel of your love.” Immediately God brought to mind some unforgiveness she wasn’t even aware of. And now with her heart cleansed, God was ready to do a miracle through her!

Then, Jesus prompted Perry to share his love with a barista. He even shared exactly what he thought he was supposed to share. When he did, it was really awkward. Next, why is Shawna finding joy in giving insulin injections and rubbing feet?

Then, if you’re afraid to move toward the dream that God has put in your heart because you fear you’ll fail, basketball great Michael Jordan has some advice for you! Finally, in 5 minutes we share the one beautiful story of the bible and your part in it!

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What’s it like to be running in fear from the country you’re from and hoping against hope for a better future on the shores of America? Joshua Sherif author of The Stranger at Our Shore knows. He was 8 years old when he landed on our shores, and does he have a story to tell!

First, Josh was born and raised Muslim in Egypt. He remembers trying to earn Allah’s approval by fasting during Ramadan only to ruin everything by eating an olive just seconds before the fast ended.  Then, Josh and his mom moved in with his grand-parents who had become believers in Jesus and remembers hurling insults at their prayers. But Jesus began to warm his heart.

Next, believers in America loved Josh well. Like his Sunday school teacher who bought him his first bike and taught him to ride it. Then, the obstacles we may need to overcome to welcome refugees and immigrants—feeling unqualified, feeling fear, maybe even feeling hatred.

Next, welcoming strangers is so much more than inviting someone to church. It’s being part of someone’s life. Then, the Muslim who became an atheist after seeing the horrors of ISIS, who then became a follower of Jesus. Finally, the church Josh planted in Chicago with 30 nationalities and 20 languages!

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Alexandra Hoover has a lot of reasons to doubt the goodness of God; abused and abandoned as a child, the hardships of being the daughter of first-generation immigrants, then the loss of their son Wells at birth, and just two weeks ago, the loss of her brother. In spite of the evidence against the goodness of God she has learned that God is good in those very places of loss, and pain, and wrestling. Alexandra, author of Eyes Up: How to Trust God’s Heart by Tracing his Hand shares her raw grief in the wake of the unexpected loss of her brother just two weeks ago.

Then, if you’re in the dark with no evidence that God is good, Alexandra shares hope for you that’s shining out of her grief. Next, how the deserts of life become the place where God pours his living water into us and through us! Next, how God used Alexandra’s second grade teacher and God’s compassionate people to draw her into God’s forever family. Next, when you can’t see God in the present, look back at what he’s done for you.  Finally, how God is healing Alexandra’s trauma.

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Craig Cooper’s a gifted story-teller, one of the founding pastors of Redeeming Grace Church in Franklin, TN and co-author of Glad You’re Here, Two Unlikely Friends Breaking Bread and Fences. Glad You’re Here is the story of Craig’s friendship with Grammy nominated country music artist Walker Hayes, who was an atheist when they first met. But Craig’s friendship with Walker created an on ramp for Walker to jump into the ocean of God’s grace!

First, in a fit of rage Craig tried to run over his brother with his pick-up truck. Then, why Walker became an atheist. Next, Walker came kicking and screaming to Craig’s church. Then, the moment Walker gave his life over to Jesus. Next, Walker wrote a song about Craig! Then, Craig and Walker and their families have become so close, they’re next door neighbors, and they tore the fence down between their houses! Encourage somebody else by sharing this show! 

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Karen, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener once weighed over 300 pounds, she was addicted to food, and Jesus freed her. Next, after Jesus died and rose, he sat down. And because he sat down, we can stop our striving, thinking we have to add to what he’s done for us! Then, Frontiers Bob Blincoe is leading a vision trip to Iraq in December. It’s not a go and see trip. It’s go and listen to Jesus trip. To perhaps hear his still small voice saying, “Will you live here and bring my good news to those who are longing for it?”

Next, if you think you’re unqualified by your sin to do something like bring the good news to Iraq, or anything else for that matter, there’s good news for you. Jesus has requalified you! Then, Jesus speaks to Muslims in the night saying, “Someone is coming for you to share the words that lead to eternal life!” Next, if you’re in a storm right now, I know it’s so hard, but it’s actually a really good place to be. Finally, Perry met a guy for the first time at church and what he found rising up in his heart was fear and suspicion.

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Colin smith, bible teacher on Moody Radio’s Open the Bible is passionate about getting us to open the bible because he knows it’s the only way we’re going to experience deep rooted, life-long transformation.

First, the reason for the surge in violence in our country goes back to the very first chapters of the bible. Then, in high school Perry was a slave to his sinful passions, couldn’t break free. But when he finally opened his bible in college, everything changed—a conversation about how we need God’s word more than oxygen.

Next, Colin and Perry agree: “We have to come back to the gospel every day to stand against the lies and accusations of the enemy.” Then, life giving ways to experience the power of God’s word. Finally, the more you understand the one story of the bible, the more you’ll understand who you are, why you’re here, and where you’re going.

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Kevin, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener, was angry, frustrated. His family was feeling the weight of his anger. Finally Kevin realized why he was acting out in such destructive ways—it was guilt eating him alive. So he wrote down every sin he ever committed, that he could think of, even went to many of the people he wronged, and Jesus freed him from the guilt. With this we talk about when it might not be best to go to the person we’ve wronged.

Then Robert, another Perry and Shawna Mornings listener shares how Jesus found him—He grew up not knowing about Jesus. He graduated from college, launched his career, pursued pleasure in relationships and was left feeling empty. In desperation he went to a Catholic priest and what the priest shared with him changed his life forever.

And now thirty years into Robert’s journey, he’s launching a new website Life Giving Verses. LGV features fifty bible verses that simply and powerfully share what the bible’s all about—being in a relationship with the God who loves you! Whether you’re a saint, skeptic, seeker, or spiritual but not religious, LGV is all about inspiring you to move forward in your friendship with God. Check it out!

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She was pummeled with anxiety, but slowly, surely, she has been transformed into a woman who experiences joy every day and knows God loves her. That would be Shawna’s story. Then, we are in a war with an enemy who’s stronger than us and is relentlessly trying to take us out. Perry shares how the enemy has tried to take him out and what he’s learned—there’s One stronger than the enemy, WAY stronger.

Then, this journey with Jesus is “beautiful and terrible, more painful, more wonderful than we ever could have known.”  Next, Perry shares how Jesus delivered him this weekend. Then, on Friday Shawna was stressing out big time about something she can’t change. In the midst of that she made a decision that went against everything she was feeling. Next, Steve, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener had made an idol of his wife, and when the marriage crashed he found out something massive about Jesus.

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We can stuff and medicate our painful emotions. And that’s really dangerous. Or we can honestly bring our emotions to God and be healed! Then, the Lord started showing Perry some deeply-rooted selfishness in his heart toward his bride, Teresa. He knew he needed to come clean and confess it very specifically with her.  The thought of being so honest was terrifying! 

Next, the only physical thing in the universe that is as it should be is a person, the risen Lord Jesus. And one day what is reality for him will be reality for you and me, the whole cosmos! Then, early in life Shawna learned that if she said something honest that would be hard for someone to hear, she shouldn’t say it. To say it would be unloving. So she stuffed her emotions. 

Next, even in the silence, God is working. So if you’re praying for rain and all you see is desert, prepare as if you’re going to get wet. Finally, the first prayer Perry prayed after Jesus came into his life was: “Lord don’t ever let me fall away from you!” It’s a conversation about the unshakeable confidence in God’s promise to save us forever!

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God astonishingly invites us to partner with him to repair the world. And all we need to do to get in on this is to say one simple, profound word, “yes.” Then, Shawna’s been in a ton of bible studies, she’s wept in times of worship, she’s walked where Jesus walked in Israel, but none of these has caused Shawna to grow in her relationship with Jesus most. Next, Shawna was on Facebook yesterday and her heart broke as she read the post of a friend: “My husband doesn’t want me anymore.”

Then, sin takes us where we never thought we’d go. It’s deceitful. And sin is never more deceitful than when it tells us—“Your salvation, your forgiveness, your problems are all on you. Jesus isn’t enough. You gotta figure it out.” Next, the only way we really get to know God intimately is through wrestling. Perry shares the hard wrestling he’s been doing this year. Finally, there’s only one place to find joy. It’s simple really. But so easy to miss! Please share today’s show if you’re encouraged by it.

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We’re reeling from the pain of the shooting in Texas. And we absolutely aren’t stuffing and ignoring the pain. That said, at the same time we’re remembering the wonder working power of the God of the bible who still does miracles today! Then Georges Houssney, founder and president of Horizons International shares about the Lebanese Muslim waitress he met in Dearborn who’s been having the same dream of Jesus for 10 years!

Next, Deshad was so depressed, he took his life. But his sister in law and her friends prayed fervently and Jesus raised him, it’s crazy true, happened recently! Then, the power of kindness—Shawna’s daughter Eden going the extra mile for Shawna and Shawna going the extra mile for Perry! Finally, skateboarding can be just as spiritual as raising your hands in worship! “Whether you eat or drink or whatever you do, do it all for the glory of God” (1 Cor. 10:31).

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On a trip to his hometown, Cheboygan a couple summers ago, Perry was humbled; he was reminded of his humble beginnings; some successes and some colossal failures. He came away from that weekend realizing more deeply that he came from nothing and that anything good in him is from Jesus. Then, Jesus brought the same message to Shawna 4 times in a span of about 6 hours, “Become like a child.” Shawna’s takeaway: “I think Jesus wants me to take a leap of trust, but I have no idea what that is!”

Next, the world’s system says “Fulfill your every desire no matter who it hurts; whatever you see that you want, take it; and make it your ambition to be the center of the universe.” This is the sure path to destruction and there’s only one way to escape the gravitation pull of the world. Then, one of Perry’s friends thinks that God the Father is against him but that Jesus is for him. And that the Father won’t let Jesus help him. Finally we share our raw feelings about the Texas school shooting.

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We won’t get more joy in life by trying harder, but we will by spending more time with the Joy Giver. Then we’re in a war with an unseen enemy, who preys on our weaknesses (Perry shares how the enemy is preying on him). Our enemy accuses us, tries to destroy us, he’s stronger than us. But he’s not stronger than the Jesus in us! It’s a conversation about finding strength in the battle!

Next, if you’ve given your life over to Jesus there’s a struggle going on inside between making life all about us and making it all about Jesus. And the key to living the “it’s all about Jesus life” is surrendering to, relying on the Holy Spirit. Finally, if you want to know Jesus in a face to face, deep friendship kind of way, we have to give up trying to be a good Christian. Wait. What? Check it out.

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Dr. Greg Smalley is a sweet guy. As vice president of Marriage and Family Formation at Focus on the Family, he helps couples prepare to have life-long marriages, helps good marriages get better, helps marriages going off the rails recover, and he’s an amazing friend of Perry and Shawna Mornings!  First, preparing for marriage starts with the reality that we can’t prepare for everything.

Then, dark times in marriage are where we develop the grit that says, “We can make it through anything!” Next, pre-marital counseling creates the muscle memory to get help when you’re married. Then, thriving as a single longing to be married.

Then, Greg comforts a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener whose marriage has died. Next, the key to actor Samuel L Jackson’s 41 year marriage. Then, what Greg learned from his counselor in the past week about his anger. Next count on the unexpected in marriage, Perry’s son Taylor and his bride are facing her cancer just 21 months in. Finally, wedding gifts that will count! Please share the show.

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Plugged In’s Adam Holtz joins the team to talk kids, screens, and Disney’s mission to disciple our kids into the LGBTQ culture. First we talk kids and screen time, Adam says the key to success is relationship before rules, and setting our kids up for success to make smart screen time decisions. Then, what is going on with Disney. Disney is committed to 50% of their characters being LGBTQ going forward. Adam says the best practice here is to have an ongoing conversation with our kids about God’s counter-cultural, life giving way to live. 

Next, as a parent, it can be easy to freak out and react in anger. That probably won’t help our kids at all. But do seize this opportunity to talk with your kids about where true identity is found. Then, Adam’s own teenagers can see they’re being discipled by mainstream media culture. Adam shares their insights. Finally, Disney owns Star Wars, Marvel, ESPN, and ABC. Their influence is vast. Adam says let’s teach our kids to be super wise media consumers who live with gospel humility, compassion and truth in a culture that has lost its way.

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Perry and his family have prayed for years for someone they love deeply in their family to be healed. And it’s just gotten worse. Why God? Then, Shawna’s also been praying for so long for God to hear her cry about something really deep in her heart. When God? How long? Next, the night heaven came rushing into Perry’s 18-year-old, shame-filled self. It’s a conversation about how Jesus makes us well. Mind, soul, body, and spirit. Finally, if it feels like every day you’re on trial, trying to get the verdict that you’re a good person, and it’s wearing you down, wearing you out. It's time to step out of the courtroom. And there’s only one way to step out and be free.

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The most powerful praying is when we are rooted in the "Never Stopping, Never Giving Up, Unbreaking, Always and Forever Love" of God. In this praying we hear the Lord singing over us and we see how he wants us to partner with him to repair our world! David Holland author of Praying Grace, and Praying Grace for Women joins the team for a conversation about what this kind of praying looks like. First, for so long David felt unqualified to come to God, that he had to clean himself up first, he was trapped in try-harder Christianity.

Then, intimacy in prayer only happens when we know God accepts us as we are, not as we should be. Next, when we are confident of God’s love for us we’ll hear him speaking to us. “But how can I know it’s God speaking?” Then, Perry has a family member who has suffered all his life and he’s only gotten worse. Perry asks David for some help. Next, how can we pray in bold faith without getting into “name it, claim it.” Finally, renewing your mind in God’s word is crucial to life-giving prayer.

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Rachael Neal from Gateway Mission joins the team to share some incredibly good news in our bad news world—how Jesus is powerfully working through Gateway Mission and in her life. First, Rachael, grew up in a beautiful Christian family, she knew all the answers, but she didn’t know God—she needed a heart change. Then, the Holland Rescue Mission is now Gateway Mission—the name change is all about becoming even more laser-focused about seeing lives transformed by Jesus; all about being a gateway for desperate hearts to be continually made new by Jesus!

Next, Justin grew up in a great family, but experienced the wounds of rejection. That led to drug and alcohol addiction to fill the void. That’s when he humbled himself and reached out to Gateway. Then, Megan, grew up with an angry alcoholic father. She had to get out. She ended up living in the woods, got addicted to drugs. But now her life is being transformed by Jesus through Gateway. Finally, Rachael opens her heart to share how Jesus is freeing her from being a control freak! It’s all about surrender to the only One in control. If this encourages you, please share it!

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If someone you love has lost their way in their journey with Jesus, it’s not at all time for giving up! Erica, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener shares about her awakening to Jesus, her falling away, and how Jesus brought her back. Then, the Lord wants us to know him intimately, he wants to reveal the depths of his heart and love and plan to us. He wants us to know him experientially because he’s a living God. It’s not at all about religion! Then, Perry wants to be less defensive, Scott, less afraid of conflict, and Shawna, more assertive. Can these three ragamuffins ever change??? : ) Finally, if you’re a follower of Jesus, you may not see yourself this way, but you’re a pastor! We make the case, see what you think.

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Today’s show starts off with a conversation about God’s faithful love for us and His longing to be in a covenant relationship with us. Shawna shares how her daughters upcoming wedding day and marriage itself reminds her of the picture marriage is meant to be of the together forever, covenant love of God.  Next, Scott shares concerning statistics about many of our pastors worldview. We’re challenged by these staggering statistics to keep our hearts and our minds humble before God when we’re studying His Word. Then Shawna shares what God revealed to her about peace.  Even good things, like peace, can become idols when they cause us to sin against God.  Lastly, Scott and Shawna discuss how human wisdom pales in comparison to The Truth of God’s Word.

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It’s been a deep wound in Brian’s life. His grandfather disowning him. Turning his back on him when he was a boy. And Brian never knew why. So five years ago Brian started a journey to find out why. It’s been a brutal and beautiful journey. And now he invites you into his story with his new podcast, The Grandfather Effect, that starts this Thursday.

With each unfolding episode you’ll journey with Brian into the pain, into the darkness, into perhaps an unexpected awakening to the extravagant love of the wounded Jesus and the perfect love of Abba Father.  Brian Dahlen is cohost of Brian and Jannelle Mornings on Moody Radio Cleveland and he joins our team today to open up about the scars and the beauty of his journey.

First, Brian’s discovering that every family is broken and needs the gospel. That he’s capable of doing just what his grandfather did. He’s learning how to forgive a dead man. That his grandfather’s sin left him feeling like he had to earn love and attention. He’s learning to forgive those who aren’t asking for it because he’s been so unconditionally loved and forgiven by the Beautiful One. But why did his grandfather disown him? Well that’s for the last episode. 

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Perry’s friend thinks that God has fatalistically determined him to be outside God’s family forever. A conversation about why that could never be true!  Then, Perry’s been working on a new song for a year, it’s been a long, painful process as its message of rejecting the idols of culture has been pressed into his heart. And now as it’s ready to be released it may be that God is showing him not to release it. It’s a hard but really good realization.

Next, Shawna admits she always feels behind everyone else, that she should be doing more for the Lord as she looks around at what others are doing. Then, Perry believed a lie for a long time, and it was destroying him. It was this, “If I don’t feel forgiven, then I’m not forgiven.” Finally, if we’re committed to walking with someone who’s really hurting, it can be hard to say “no,” when they call. It’s a conversation about the line between being a helper and thinking we need to be the messiah.

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God tells a guy to marry a prostitute who then goes back to selling her body. She becomes a slave and God tells him to buy her out of slavery and bring her back home. It’s a book in the bible! And it’s a painfully beautiful picture of God’s love for us. Then, sometimes life can be like looking up a 100 foot cliff that we have to scale. And we so often shrink back in fear because we so easily forget that we have the Spirit of God in us. That’s the story of MercyMe’s “Say I Won’t,” the song inspired by the courage and faith of Gary Miracle. Next, God’s unconditional, loyal, furious, unbreakable, extravagant love. The Hebrew language describes in in one word: Hesed. Finally, we take a swim in the bottomless ocean of the glory and brilliance of Jesus!

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Whenever we hold back our “yes” from God, whatever the reason, we’re missing out on the incredible things he wants to do in us and through us. Jennifer Hand, author of My Yes Is on the Table: Moving from Fear to Faith joins the team to help us move forward! First Jennifer was NOT one of the cool kids growing up. But that didn’t matter to Jesus! Then, Jennifer had her whole life mapped out and Jesus interrupted (!) her plan. Next, fear of rejection was keeping Jen from saying “yes.”

Then, what to do if fear is holding back your “yes.” Next, if you’re afraid, admit it, bring your fears to Jesus and then remember how he’s come through in the past. Then, on top of Mt. Nebo overlooking Israel Jen cried out, “Jesus, I don’t want to miss your best because of fear and disobedience!” Next, the Lord won’t stay inside the little boxes we try to put him in—Jen found that out on the back of an elephant. Finally, Perry and Shawna admit the fears that are keeping them from moving forward. If you’re encouraged, please share the show!

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Do you know that Jesus believes in you? When that moves the 18 inches from head to heart, life is turned right side up. Then, we hide from God because shame, because we fear that’ll he reject us. But that’s religion. That’s not Jesus. Next, as a teenager Perry was a slave to sexual sin, he didn’t know how to draw from the power of the Holy Spirit. But his failures eventually taught him how. Then Jill, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener shares how Jesus is helping her with her addiction to alcohol and food.

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Perry admits, “I feel like I’m caught up in building a monument to myself that reaches to the sky.” Then, “Hold your mic loosely!” It’s a conversation about when ministry becomes an idol and what to do when that happens: “ Clear The Stage.” Next, it was perhaps the greatest storm of Perry’s mom’s life. She did NOT want to go through it, but Jesus called her into it. She said, “Not my will, but yours be done.” Then, Perry admits, “I do things in the name of God and make it about me.” It’s a conversation about the only way to serve God for his glory and not ours. Finally, anything and anyone we love more than God, is an idol. It’s something Perry and Shawna have to repent from every day. And so we call on Jesus to cleanse us inside out.

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Shawna admits that the older she gets, the more she’s drawn to comfort. Even feels entitled to it. Comfort is a strong value in America and it competes big time with our loyalty to Jesus, whose way is sometimes really hard, but not without his gentle comfort. Then we drink from a million wells trying quench our deepest thirst while only one well will satisfy. Next, marriage is one of the wells we can drink from to try to satisfy our deepest thirst, but even marriage, as beautiful as it is, can’t satisfy our deep down soul thirst.

Then, post-moderns struggle with the idea that Jesus is the only way to God. If you struggle with this, listen in to this conversation about why Jesus just may be the only one in the universe qualified to be that bridge.  Finally, Perry has been sharing about going through a season of depression. And Ted, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener is grateful cause he struggles too. But Ted didn’t just call to encourage Perry, he called to encourage you! Share this show you’re encouraged by it.

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Perry admits he tries to fix his deep stain of guilt through songwriting.  Wait. What? Yep. Then, we try to fill our deepest longings through marriage, money, losing weight, our appearance, our achievements. Oh let me count the ways we try to fill that space! All the while only One thing is needed. Next, “Jesus is in my heart and Jesus wants to go outside!” Then, Perry still has moments of doubts that he’s in God’s forever family and this is what he’s learned to do in those scary moments. Finally, humility before honor, suffering before joy, the cross before the crown—This the is the way.

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Yes she does! Cinnamon rolls. GREAT coffee!  A Half sweet latte with an extra shot of espresso! Avocado toast with goat cheese, balsamic vinegar and pepper flakes. You get the idea. It’s a conversation about when something good starts competing for first place in our hearts. Then, just a few weeks ago she believed that Christianity was all about power and controlling people and now she’s awakening to Jesus. Danica McKellar who started her acting career as Winnie in The Wonder Years shares her coming alive story. Finally, Shawna admits she’s been overly concerned about looking all put together. It’s a conversation about finding our identity not in our appearance, but in being loved by Jesus.

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Grace is not really amazing or beautiful at all until we see how much we need it. Then, Shawna tried to play God this weekend, tried to make everything work out for her family, but it crashed and burned. But instead of judgment from God, she was met with his grace and reminded that He is enough!  Then David, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener shares how his friend Brian has made David better by caring enough to speak the truth from a heart of genuine love. Next, Perry admitted his weakness to a friend this weekend and built a bridge for God’s power.  Finally, through blood, sweat, and tears we strive so hard to get the verdict:  “You’re a good person.” If that’s you, and you’re exhausted, we’ve got rest for you!

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Former NFL player Derwin Grey’s life had a rough start. Born to teenage parents, raised “in the hood,” in the thick of violence, he didn’t stand much of a chance. Then he found football success in high school, at BYU, and then with the Indianapolis Colts. But why was he still empty, why did he still feel like a hurting, poor little boy? That’s when the naked preacher stepped into his life!

Then as a teenager Shawna spent a year trying to cover her nose because a photographer suggested she get a nose job and then a boy made fun of her nose. It’s a conversation about body image and where to find an unshakeable identity. Next, the great exchange: Jesus was treated as we deserve so that we can be treated as he deserves. Finally, maybe you can’t forgive yourself; and what it looks like to find freedom from your regrets! Share the show!

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Instead of timidly begging God to do something for us, perhaps we should begin to pray in the authority of Jesus—it’s a conversation about praying with the power and authority that Jesus has given us. Then, praying in the authority of Jesus has some baggage, we maybe think of cocky televangelists.  So, a conversation about what is and what is not praying in the authority of Jesus.

Next, Perry gets raw about his struggle with depression by sharing what he journaled a couple weeks ago. Then, the Holy Spirit in you prays for you with wordless groans, especially when life’s a slog, to help you make it to the City of Light! Finally, prayer should be strategic, targeted. Look at how the enemy is trying to rip you off and rip off the people in your life, then pray the powerful word of God to demolish his attacks.

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The monster of uncertainty can’t be a good thing. You’re right. It’s this sense that it’s all on us to get it right, to get God’s approval. And when we think it’s all on us, we’ll never be sure that we have His approval.  But the monster of uncertainty has been put to death forever. Then, in college Perry was reeling from the moral mess he made of his teenage years. At that moment, God spoke a promise to his heart, it’s a promise for any who come to Jesus empty handed.

Next, maybe you feel you don’t deserve a place at the Father’s table, there’s an older brother there who knows all your sins and it makes you feel like running for the door. That’s when you need to sit tight and remember what you’ve forgotten! Then, the first thing Jesus teaches us about prayer is extravagant!  We get to call God “Father, Abba, Poppa, Daddy!” Finally, Kim a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener shares how Jesus found her though 89.3 Moody Radio.

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Have you been wounded by trauma and addiction? Paula Jauch, trauma survivor & author of Cross Addicted: Breaking Free From Family Trauma & Addiction,  joined us in studio to share her own story of healing and recovery from childhood abandonment, food issues, drug addiction, cutting, suicidal ideation and more. If you can identify with any of her story you will also begin to see a path to healing for your life through this conversation. You are loved by a good Father who promises to stay and walk with you into your healing. We’re so glad you’re here.

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Let’s talk about prayer…Ever think, “All I can do is pray”? Prayer is an offensive move. It’s stepping into spiritual battle. And there are people in your life who need a spiritual warrior to fight for them. What about the mandate to pray “without ceasing”? Is that even possible? Yep, we talk about how to pray continuously in this episode. How does prayer impact God’s activity in our lives? And does how we pray matter? Yep! Some cool stories in this episode of God providing in incredible ways as a direct response to a grateful, expectant prayer. Enjoy!

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Shawna’s best friend Latrece knows the good, bad, and ugly about Shawna, and loves her. And if Latrece a human loves Shawna that much, think how much the beautiful, perfect Son of God loves us! Then, we all need at least one friend who knows the worst about us, yet still loves us, a friend who can help us carry the load of shame and regret. For Perry that’s his friend the Doc. Next, every moment of your life is being transformed into beauty by Jesus, even your greatest failures.

Then, Shawna admits she wasn’t one of the cool kids in school, wasn’t one of first to be chosen on the playground. It’s a conversation about our longing to be seen, known, loved, chosen, and how that longing is satisfied. Finally Jesus has rescued us to make us just like him. As CS Lewis says, “He will one day make the feeblest and filthiest of us into a god or goddess”. But the path to that destiny “will be long and in parts very painful.”

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Jesus knows everything about us, our darkest secrets, our scariest skeletons in the closet, and he says, “Come, see the nail scars in my hands, find forgiveness for your shameful regrets.” Then, the enemy’s lie is: “The more of God in your life, the less you’ll find joy in life.” Jesus says, “The more of me in your life, the more you’ll experience peace, meaning, purpose and unshakeable love.”

Next, Shawna’s best friend Latrece joins the team! In her 20’s Latrece found herself relying on Percocet and brandy to deal with the deep pain in her heart. That’s when her mom asked her to come to a woman’s conference. Toward the end of the meeting, the speaker said “Latrece where are you?” The speaker had no idea who Latrece was. But God did. What Latrece did next changed her life forever.

Then, Latrece’s right now is hard—With people close to her she’s seeing death, divorce, depression, and drugs. It’s really hard. And there’s one powerful promise that’s holding her together. Finally, we live in a culture that wants to cancel us for our faith in Jesus. But don’t freak out! Keep on sharing the good news with gentleness and respect!

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Jesus brings back to life in us what has died. For Shawna it’s boldness, for Perry it’s being more convinced that Jesus loves him. Then, Perry was given a beautiful gift from God as a teenager and the very next day he let Jesus down, big time. But his first step toward healing was realizing that Jesus still loved him. If you have big time failed, do you still believe Jesus loves you? Next, the default mode of our hearts is self. Self-worship, self-sufficiency, even self-hatred. How do we break out of these patterns? It takes a power beyond ourselves.

Then, in your relationship with Jesus, when you come to him, do you see yourself as clean or do you feel like you have to clean up all the mess in you first? Finally, there are people who help us get closer to God, and that’s beautiful. But people let us down, people are sinners like us, people we trust to help us get closer, die. So we need a perfect priest, and that’s what Jesus is! We will always be able to get to God through him because he lives forever! Please share today’s show if you’re encouraged by it!

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In The Lion, the Witch and the Wardrobe we find out about the deep magic. That the White Witch has the power to execute every traitorous sinner. But the White Witch doesn’t know about the Deeper Magic. And THAT is our hope! Then, the enemy has tried to take Shawna out all her life long—using anxiety and fear to cripple her, telling her she doesn’t matter. And it would have worked but for the power of the crucified and risen Christ!

Next, because Jesus rose to never die again, you will rise to never die again. And that power that will raise you to never die again is at work in you now! Then, Perry admits that when he’s facing battles in life he can feel alone, but one power promise from the sage Isaiah has the power to sweep the loneliness and fear away. Finally, if Jesus didn’t rise from the dead there’s no reason to take him seriously at all. But if he really did, then that’s an altogether, completely different story!

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Voice of the Martyrs Todd Nettleton has talked with hundreds of persecuted Christians around the world. Like sister Tong in China and Hasan in Iran who treasured their time in prison because it was like being baptized in bottomless ocean of Jesus’ love. Is it possible for us to experience Jesus’ love like this in the west? Then, the day Jesus opened the eyes of Perry’s heart and he saw a wall of fire around him. Next, a Perry and Shawna Morningslistener is being bullied at work, her home has been robbed twice and a murder happened in her neighborhood. What should she do? Then when all seems lost, there is a light for you when all other lights go out. Next, the martyrs in heaven are praying for justice to come to the earth, they are asking when Jesus will return. And the Lord gives them the answer! 

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Suffering is something we run from. And when we have to go through it, we want out as fast as possible. But maybe we’re missing something? Todd Nettleton of Voice of the Martyrssays we are. We’re missing the power of God made perfect in weakness, and a deep revelation of Jesus’ love that only comes in deep suffering. Todd joins the team to show us the power and beauty of suffering through the eyes of our persecuted brothers and sisters around the world.

First, Todd needs to keep resetting his identity in Jesus’ love, not his performance. Next, Iman who wanted to be the best soldier, thief, addict. And then he crashed into Jesus. Then, the night Iman was saved by Jesus, Jesus was literally in his room. Next, Todd, Perry, and Shawna imagine what characters they think they’d be in the crowd at Jesus’ crucifixion.

Then, sister Tong spent 6 months in the Chinese prison for her faith. Jesus gifted her with a deep sense of his presence and the honor of leading cell mates to Jesus. Next, Perry asks Todd, “Imagine yourself right in front of the cross, looking up at Jesus. What’s going through your mind?” Finally, Hasan in prison for his faith was on his cell floor many nights weeping because the presence of Jesus was so palpable!

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Are you tired? Worn out? Burned out on religion? Come to me. Get away with me and you’ll recover your life. I’ll show you how to take a real rest. Walk with me and work with me—watch how I do it. Learn the unforced rhythms of grace. I won’t lay anything heavy or ill-fitting on you. Keep company with me and you’ll learn to live freely and lightly—Jesus (Matthew 11:28-30).

Scarlet Hiltibidal author of You’re the Worst Person in the World points us to what it looks like to live in “the unforced rhythms of grace.” First, Scarlet was afraid of Jesus, that he would say, “depart from me, I never knew you,” because she knew she wasn’t perfect. Then, Scarlet’s first taste of pure grace. Next, she was a pastor’s wife, had a bible college degree, looked all put together, but was hiding an eating disorder. Jesus kept saying, “bring it into the light.”

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We can “live in the freedom of total forgiveness with reckless confidence” because Jesus took the righteous judgement we deserve. He said, “My life for yours!” Then, it’s hard to take a really close look at the brutal suffering Jesus went through when we realize he went through it because of our sin. But our comfort in looking so closely is this—knowing that he chose to go through it because of his extravagant love for us!

Next, Jesus had enemies who hated him—Judas, the Roman soldiers, some Jewish leaders. But they aren’t the only ones who hated Jesus, there’s some of that in our hearts. But here’s the wonder of Jesus, he absorbs the punishment for our hatred of him on the cross. Finally, Jesus invites you to bring your most painful questions to him. And he will draw the pain out of us and heal us by asking us some questions.

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Jesse Bradley joins the team again. He’s lead pastor at Grace Community Church in Seattle. Jesse’s parents divorced when he was 7 and he turned to academics and athletics to cope with the deep hurt. He started following Jesus in college, played pro soccer after college. Then a year into pro soccer he almost died from an illness that took 10 years to recover from. God did some deep work transforming Jesse from the inside out during his long recovery.

First Jesse’s journey from finding his identity in performance to finding it in Jesus’ love. Then, how to keep the good things in life from becoming ultimate things—the power of the Holy Spirit! Next, how Jesus is moving in post-modern, post-Christian Seattle! Then, this person found Grace Community online during the pandemic. The first time they showed up in person, they were baptized! Next, if Jesus is just your example, he will crush you, but if he’s your Savior, he will free you! Finally, Jesus came to destroy religion!  Please share the show!

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His heart was broken by his parent’s divorce when he was 7. He never saw the reality of Jesus growing up, so he decided, “there must be no God.”  Jesse Bradley joins the team to share his compelling freedom story. Jesse’s a former professional soccer goalkeeper with the Highlanders Football Club in Bulawayo, Zimbabwe. Now he’s lead pastor at Grace Community Church in the greater Seattle area.

First, Jesse shares how performing in athletics and academics was his way to deal with his parent’s divorce. Then, playing soccer and moving from atheist to Jesus follower at Dartmouth College. Then, Mike, the timid guy that led Jesse to Jesus. Next, the historical evidence that persuaded Jesse to trust Jesus.  Then, achieving his lifetime dream to play professional soccer, then one year in being blindsided. Finally, 10 years in the desert of a chronic illness that recreated Jesse’s life.

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More Muslims have decided to follow Jesus since 9/11 than in the previous 1400 years of Islam. Jesus is on the move! Horizons International is on the leading edge of bringing Muslims into God’s forever family. Georges Houssney (founder and president) and Annie Ostrander of Horizons join the team to share some of the amazing works of Jesus in the Muslim world.

First, at a Middle Eastern restaurant in Dearborn, Georges asked a Muslim woman if she had ever had a dream of Jesus. Her eyes became very wide! Then, the Muslim man in Lebanon who could only crawl because of intense back pain, and Jesus healed him. Now he’s following Jesus! Next, a Muslim woman in Saudi Arabia who dreamed of a man in white who said, “I am the way, the truth, and the life.”

Then, the Muslim woman in Tunisia who asked for a sign from God, and Jesus appeared to her in a vision and smiled. Next, the ISIS fighter who became appalled at what he was doing in the name of Allah and gave his life over to Jesus. And finally, how God reached a Muslim refugee family in Lebanon through Facebook!

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If you have kids between 7 and 12, they’re probably struggling with anxiety. And they need help, yesterday! Caris Snider joins the team to bring that help. Caris, author of Anxiety Elephants, and now Anxiety Elephants For Tweens is a communicator who shares God's hope through writing, speaking, and leading worship. She draws on her life experiences of overcoming anxiety and depression that started early in life. First Caris shares where that battle with anxiety began: Being bullied as a child because of Cerebral Palsy.

Then, when Perry’s daughter Kali was 10 she had the fear of dying in a house fire—Jesus spoke life to her! Next, tools for our kids to overcome anxiety! Then, in 2011 Caris’s life almost ended because of anxiety and depression. Next, how to know if your child is struggling. Then, Shawna’s wondering how to help a friend paralyzed by anxiety. Next, this week Perry was gripped by the anxious thought, “Am I really in God’s family?” Then, share with your kids your story of Jesus’ power in your life! Finally, is anxiety a “been there done that” thing for Caris? Share this if you’re encouraged!

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We’ve forgotten who we are. And the only way to recover who we really are is for everything we think we are to be stripped away. And when that happens, we find out something beautiful! Then, there’s no drive-through for becoming like Jesus. It’s takes a lifetime of walking in the footsteps of Rabbi Jesus. Next, if deep down we don’t feel loved by God, it’s going to be really hard to love others, so how can we know he loves us? Then, there’s only one way to know with 100% certainty that God loves us. Only one. Finally, repentance is a gift. It points us to our deepest problem (ouch!), the right response to that problem, and the only way to fix it. It’s the key to becoming more like Jesus.

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If you lost everything, would Jesus be enough? Stacey Morgan, author of The Astronaut’s Wife answered “Yes,” to that question in one terrifying moment. Stacy’s a mom, Executive Leadership Coach for Mothers of Preschoolers and is married to Army colonel and NASA astronaut Drew Morgan. First Stacy shares how her faith in Jesus moved from theory to real life when her husband was deployed to Afghanistan—There he’d be getting up every morning to people trying to kill him. If she lost her husband, would Jesus be enough?

Then, the moment Stacy’s faith went even deeper: When her husband was about to be launched into space. She knew she could become a widow in a moment. Next, following Jesus always means risk. Then, maybe you’re about to take a risk of faith and you know if you do, nothing will ever be the same. Next, Stacey got a taste of single parenting while her husband was in space: If you’re a single parent, Stacey has incredible respect for you andshe has a lesson learned she’d like to pass on. Finally, faith is like a winding, unpredictable, sometimes raging river.

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If you’re being disciplined by the Lord and it hurts. If you’re going through his purifying furnace and its painful, don’t lose heart. God is treating you as his precious child, making you more like him through the fire. Perry can so relate. Then, God wants to be so close with us that we feel his breath on our face. Next, the cross isn’t just meant to get us in the door of God’s family, It’s meant to remind us every waking and sleeping moment that all the dark clouds of God’s anger against our sin is gone, forever! Then, Shawna has set some alarms to help keep her focus on God throughout the day. Perry uses his anxieties and cares to do that! Finally, what to do when painful emotions overwhelm.

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God’s cares about sports.  It’s one of his good gifts to enjoy, it’s a way to become more like him, and to point our world to him! For 15 years Brian Smith author of The Christian Athlete, has been helping athletes learn how to bring Jesus into their sport and to glorify him when the crowd is, and isn’t watching. First, Brian once thought that following Jesus was all about avoiding sin. Then, why God cares so deeply about sports. Next, Brian lost the cross country state championship for his high school team. That was his greatest blessing!

Then, why we think Tom Brady can’t retire—this will hit close to home. Next, looking spiritual on the outside but inside being self-absorbed; and what to do about it! Then, if you’re the parent of an athlete, finding your identity in Jesus and not your kids, and letting your kids learn! Next, Perry wonders if there’s anything redemptive about his competitive nature. Then, ways to reset your mind on honoring God in the heat of competition. Finally, what to do when your motivation for playing becomes more self-serving than God-honoring.

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If there is a heaven, can we prove it?  Investigative journalist and best-selling author of The Case For Christ, Lee Strobel joins the team to help us search for answers to the deepest questions we have, about heaven, hell, and Near-Death Experiences. Lee’s latest book and film is The Case For Heaven.  First, seeing beyond the veil just before death is compelling evidence of life after physical death—Shawna shares what her dad saw in his last moments and Perry shares his dad’s experience of the Angel of the Lord.

Next, there have been hundreds of scholarly studies on Near-Death Experiences with people from different cultures and religions. Their experiences confirm the bible’s truth. Then, our unsatisfied longing for home point to life beyond the veil. Next, what about those who’ve never heard of Jesus, do they have any chance of heaven?? Then, Lee has walked with many atheists and led them to Jesus, find out what his secret sauce is. Finally, The Case For Christ movie was filmed in some of the most stunning and beautiful places in America.  Perry wonders why they didn’t shoot in his hometown, Cheboygan, MI! Share the show if you’re encouraged!

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Inspired by his own brush with death, journalist and best-selling author Lee Strobel joins the team to help us search for answers to the most profound questions we have, about heaven, hell, and Near-Death Experiences. Lee’s latest book and film is The Case For Heaven.  Today we probe the most important question of life:  If there is a heaven, can we prove it? First Lee shares his journey from atheism to Jesus follower. Next, The Case For Heaven was inspired by Lee’s own brush with death. Then, a Near-Death Experience of hell. Next, Maria’s compelling evidence that life continues after physical death. Then, Jesus makes the staggering claim, “I am the only way to heaven.” Why should I believe that?? Finally, what Lee is looking forward to most about heaven. Share this show if you’re encouraged!

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There’s a tsunami of lies from the culture that are swallowing our daughters. But the truth will keep your daughter from being swept away.  True Girl founder Dannah Gresh’s passion is to get moms and their tween and teen daughters into God’s word to sweep away the lies poisoning our daughters. First, the root of all lies: God is not enough. Then, how to compassionately share truth with a young person who’s confused about their gender. Next, the mom and dad who compassionately saved their daughter from transitioning to a boy. Then, she felt ashamed she was so tall; her sister kept being told she was ugly and how the truth set them free! Finally, if an enemy is threatening to take you out, this is what the Lord says, “You need only be still!”

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There are messages coming at your daughter every moment from every channel telling her who she should be or who she’s not. It’s hard to unmask this tsunami of lies. True Girl founder Dannah Gresh’s passion is to get moms and their tween and teen daughters into God’s word to sweep away the lies that seek to steal and destroy. First Dannah shares the shame she carried for 10 years for giving away the gift meant only for her husband—and how Jesus healed her!

Then, Molly, a 10-year-old in her darkest moments of depression says to her parents, “You’re nevergetting Molly back.” It’s a conversation about the mental health epidemic and spiritual oppression among our tween and teen girls. Next, the teenage girl who gave her life over to Jesus at a True Girl event and then led her dying mom to Jesus! Then, the lie that Dannah still wrestles with, “Jesus doesn’t love me.” Finally, a wide on ramp to get you and your daughter into God’s word!

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Maybe life has just not turned out the way you dreamed. Elizabeth Woodson, disciple-maker, theologian and author of Embrace Your Life: How to Find Joy When the Life You Have is Not the Life You Hoped For joins the team to share her hard-won wisdom. First, the moment Elizabeth knew God loved her. Then, don’t stuff your grief, lament! Next, it’s ok to not be ok. Then, when you don’t have the answers, remember what you do know. Next, how to choose joy when life is hard. Then, what not to say to a hurting friend. Next, hardship is good?? Then, longing to be married and losing her grandma gave birth to Embrace Your Life. Next, THE reason you can hope when you feel you’ve lost it. Finally, if you’re staggered by loss, a living word of God for you.

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Prayer is not just something we do. Prayer is experiencing relationship with the living God! David Doerner and Cody Mahaffy of Frontline Community Church Grand Rapids join the team to share when they first experienced God. Then, God is not a proposition to learn, God is a person to know. Next, to partner with God to bring healing to our world we have to dive full body into risk!

Then, the power of praying together—it’s heaven meeting earth. Next, the greatest answer to prayer is God giving us himself. Next, if you’re discouraged, weary, slogging through life, you must hear this! Then, God wants us to ask with right motives, but don’t wait till your motives are 100% pure. The Lord will purify your motives after you come! Finally, how the Holy Spirit sends us on mission with Jesus to the hurting.

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How to avoid having a horrible prayer life!—an assist from Matt Chandler, lead pastor of teaching at the Village Church in Dallas. Then, God’s word is a double edged sword cutting to the core, slicing sin away. Next, Perry was gripped by an evil nightmare and his dad’s prayer swept the darkness away. Then Perry and Shawna Mornings listener Erin shares what he prays over his kids. Next the practice of gratitude gives birth to joy. Then, Shawna and Scott throw the NBA under the bus leaving Perry only one course of action—bring in Stephen A. Smith. Finally, when we’re weary from the slog of life God powers us with his power to give us great patience and endurance! If you’re encouraged by the show, please share!

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If we keep on hurting those closest to us, God won’t hear our prayers (1 Peter 3:7). Perry learned this the hard way. Then, Shawna’s decided that fasting needs to be worked into the rhythm of her life. Why would she want that?? (It’s not about being some kind of spiritual super hero). Next, Susan left the comforts of America to bring Jesus’ love to Muslims. She went prayer walking in some random Muslim neighborhood, and because she did, there are now at least 32 Muslims who’ve given their lives to Jesus! It’s a conversation about what prayer walking is and its power! Finally, Romans 12:12—"Be joyful in hope, patient in affliction, faithful in prayer.” Perry shares which one of the three is hardest for him.

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In Shawna’s early 20’s she had a very specific plan to end her life. It’s what God has taught her since then that motivates her to get up so early to do Perry and Shawna Mornings!  Then Lysa Terkeurst, President of Proverbs 31 Ministries was the first person in her ministry to put her faith in Jesus! Next, if you’ve been blindsided by life, Lisa understands, she’s facing the end of her marriage.  Then, Shawna and Perry admit the pride that’s in their hearts and the power of confessing that sin to one another. Next, Lisa admits to being a worst case scenario thinker. And the only antidote to that is to give up being our own lord and savior. And finally Lisa says that getting the why questions answered about the hard things in life probably won’t give you the peace you’re looking for. Share today’s show with a friend!

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What can we learn from Lysa Terkeurst, a police dog, Shawna’s relationship with her dad, Ed Stetzer, and Perry? You might learn something about obedience, love, how to follow Jesus, and seeing the world from a godly perspective. All that and more on this episode of Perry and Shawna Replay.

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The dark is getting darker—something you know all too well. But the light is getting brighter. That’s something we LOVE to share on Perry and Shawna Mornings. Today Greg Kelley of World Mission joins the team, just back from Pakistan, to share how the light of Jesus is piercing the darkness in Pakistan. First, the 13 year old boy living in a dump who spoke for the first time in 10 years as he heard the gospel!

Then, the Muslim man who had a dream that he’d be healed. Next day he was supernaturally guided to Greg’s team, heard the gospel, believed, and was healed! Then, a daring rescue of 75 girls who were moments from being sold into sex slavery. Next, slaves make bricks in Pakistan, working long hours in brick factories.  Greg and his team visited several factories and 90% of these Muslims believed the gospel!

Next, 20 Muslim brick makers, who received the gospel with joy gave Greg’s team the biggest offering he’s ever received: $2.73. Worth millions in God’s eyes. Then, Muslims were being miraculously healed (like blind eyes opened!) as they heard and believed the gospel. Finally, the Lord has done his best work in Greg by giving him a precious special needs daughter.  Share this show!

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The sexual revolution that started in the 60’s is leaving a path of destruction, and it’s our kids who are suffering most.  John Stonestreet, President of the Colson Center for Christian Worldview joins the team to paint a picture of the carnage and to point the way to how we can partner with God to heal and restore. First, John knew everything about the bible but he didn’t know Jesus. Then, faith is not a blind leap off a cliff, the evidence screams, “There is a God, the resurrection happened, the world can be healed!” Next, the 3 poisonous ideas of America’s sexual revolution. Then, contrary to the cultural megaphone, the data shows our kids are not fine! Next, the dark side of surrogacy. Finally, what we can do to heal our world.

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Veteran journalist and host of Haven Today, Charles Morris is in Krakow, Poland, 2 hours from the Ukrainian border with a riveting and sobering look at the greatest crisis in Europe since World War II. First, the German man and his 2 children who traveled 12 hours to the border, with their grill, to feed 1200 brats to the refugees! Then, every person in Europe Charles has met is calling Mr. Putin, “Hilter.”

Next, at the border Charles saw love colliding between fleeing Ukrainians and rescuing Europeans. Then, 2 pastors who’ve stayed in Kiev who’re praying with soldiers and leading terrified teenagers to Jesus. Next, a prayer you can pray, “Lord turn the Russian army around!” Then, can Russia be pushed back? And young Russian soldiers and even commanders who were sold lies about their mission. Finally, in all of Charles life he has never seen believers rise to meet human suffering like he is seeing now.

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If you know who holds the future and that He will one day “make all the sad things come untrue,” you have an anchor no matter how crazy life gets.  Dr. Charlie Dyer, Moody Bible Institute professor and host of The Land and the Book joins the team to talk about his book What Does the Bible Say About the Future? First, Charlie shares how Jesus messed with his perfect life plan! Then, God at work in Israel’s return to the land and in the thousands of Jews in the land who are now following Jesus. Then, what about that “prophecy” that former President Trump will be reinstated?

Next, prophecies fulfilled show us the bible is from God—Isaiah’s prophecy about the pagan king Cyrus delivering God’s people 170 years before it happened and Daniel’s prophecy of exactly when Jesus would come 480 years before he came! Then, believers in heaven know more about God’s plan than believers on earth. Next, why the Tree of Life in Genesis shows up in the book of Revelation. Then, we will be astonished by joy when we finally see what God has prepared for us! Next, how prophecies of the future transform the right now. Finally, a call to embrace the free gift of the water of life. Please share this show! 

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We have the silver bullet—it’s the way you can be the most secure person in the world; it’s the way to have an unshakeable identity. If you grasp this you’ll never have to spend another moment of your life proving yourself! Then, Shawna and her family had just moved to Arizona. She and her husband Dan had a passion to reach their neighbors with Jesus’ love. And a battle between her 2 kids on her front porch just a few days in seemed to have ruined it all! It’s a conversation about the danger of greed and about not needing to be perfect to reach our neighbors. Next, it’s the only way to be free from craving and needing the approval of the most important people in your life. That’s freedom. Finally, Perry admits it’s been a long time since he’s wept over his sin.

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It’s Freedom Friday and we’re celebrating the amazing-ness of Jesus’ love! First, Perry and Shawna Mornings listener Kristen makes a great call:  “Throw out your computer generated song and play Charity Gayle’s You Have Made Me Glad!” Then author York Moore had decided that life has no meaning and decided to end it all. He sped up to 90 on the freeway, then steered toward a cement wall. Next, Perry and Shawna Mornings listener Caty shares how Jesus revealed himself to her as a little girl in the midst of terrifying nighttime seizures. Then, the Florida teenager who’s tracking Vladimir Putin. (And Scott’s amazing Russian accent)! Next, Amy Davison of Mama Bear Apologetics practiced Wicca for a year, she was a day from stepping into the dark side and becoming a witch. Then, Hannah Keely, America’s #1 Mom Coach has learned the truth that sets us free—“I don’t obey to get God’s love, rather, God loves me and that’s why I obey.” Finally, Perry’s journey to let go of the past.

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When you get a chance to have a Jedi Master like Dr. Gary Chapman on the show, why not have him two days in a row? Dr. Chapman joins our team with another dive into how to apologize in a way that restores, renews, even resurrects broken relationships. It’s all about the power of The Five Apology Languages. First, Shawna bounces her theory off Gary: that God’s love language is obedience. Gary won’t give a straight answer and Shawna’s not having it! Kidding. Next, a husband broke trust with his wife big time. He’s repented and wondering how he can rebuild trust with his bride. Next Perry asks, “How can I forgive myself?” Finally, history is littered with the carnage of lame apologies. How to avoid adding to the carnage and instead bring life your world.  Share this if you’re encouraged. Yesterday’s show too. Thanks!

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In our culture where politics have divided families, where friendships are destroyed because “You’re wrong and I’m right!” Where cancel culture thrives, where trust is broken in marriages; we need to find our way back to each other! Dr. Gary Chapman, best-selling author of The Five Love Languages joins the team to show us the way back—apologizing to the one we’ve hurt in a way that compelling connects. It’s a conversation about his book The Five Apology Languages: The Secret to Healthy Relationships.

First, Gary shares his faith story—one Sunday morning he felt compelled to give his life over to Jesus but didn’t. He thought he had lost his only chance. Then, Gary breaks down the five apology languages—The person we’ve hurt needs our apology, but it needs to be in their apology language to bring real healing. Next, Perry’s conversation in the sauna with the guy who wouldn’t take the first step toward his brother cause, “It was his fault!” Then, if we keep on canceling each other, we’re going to destroy each other! Finally, Perry admits the number one reason he doesn’t want to apologize. 

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Tyranny has raised its ugly head. Ukraine has been invaded by a man who wants to take over a free country.  He wants it to increase his power. Clearly evil is in play. But we know God is working as well. Ivan is a Messianic Jew who’s a pastor and professor in Ukraine. And he helps us see what’s going on in Ukraine in real time. First, 30 to 40 year old Ukrainian soldiers are capturing 18-year-old Russian soldiers. Seeing their young faces keeps them from hating Russians.  Then, Ukrainian believers have prayed that a supernatural fear would come over Russian soldiers, and it’s happened.

Next, an angelic cloud over Kiev in the first days of the war. Then the host of the Prayers of Rest podcast Asheritah Ciuciu whose parents are Romanian shares the deep pain she feels about the invasion of Ukraine and cries out in prayer for God’s help! Then Ivan shares how the story of David and Goliath is helping Jesus followers in Ukraine wrestle with whether they should take up arms. And finally, we’ll never be able to forgive those who’ve wounded us until we see the depth of our sin and the what it cost God to forgive us.

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Deep in his heart Imed, a devout follower of Islam knew that even if he prayed for a thousand years, he probably wouldn’t make it into paradise. Muslims are working hard to earn God’s approval, but we too as followers of Jesus can fall into trying to earn it.  Then, just yesterday God brought to mind someone Shawna needed to forgive. It’s a conversation about what forgiving someone looks like. And what it doesn’t look like (it’s not letting someone off the hook). Next, Perry’s strategy for getting through March when most want winter to be OVER. Then, if you’ve ever felt terrified that you’ve committed an unforgiveable sin, find perfect love to drive out your fears. Finally, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener, Corinne shares how a family member literally stole their home. Someone suggested that she forgive. Her response was, “Are you kidding me??”

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A spiritual awakening is just getting started in Israel! In the past 6 years the gospel has been viewed 36 million times by Hebrew speaking Jews through One For Israel’s creative content! Anastasia from OFI joins the team to give us the latest on what God is doing! First, we really haven’t seen anything like this in Israel since the first century. Then, Anastasia, a Russian Jew, shares how Jesus’ love for women was one of the ways He won her heart.

Next, the ultra-orthodox Jewish Rabbi who has come to faith with his whole family and is sharing that Jesus is the Messiah in the ultra-orthodox community! Then, OFI is exposing the lies about Jesus that rabbis have been feeding the Jewish people for millennia—for the first time Jewish people are being able to see the truth for themselves.

Next, a Jewish person just messaged OFI: “Because of your videos, I believe Jesus is the Messiah, the Son of David, and the beloved Son of the Creator!” Then, Anastasia shares how incredibly hard it is for her to speak the truth of Jesus to power; she shares with deep honesty how you can pray for her. Finally, how you can join Perry and Shawna Mornings in praying for this spiritual awakening in Israel in March. Let’s do this together!  Please share this show!

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If your journey with Jesus feels like pushing a massive boulder up a hill in your own strength, it’s time for a reset. Karl Clauson joins the team to show us what it looks like to live in God’s strength and not our own. Karl hosts Karl & Crew Mornings for Moody Radio in Chicago and is author The 7 Resolutions: Where Self-Help Ends and God’s Power Begins.  First, Karl shares how grace crashed into him.

Then 3 weeks after Jesus transformed him, he stumbled big time and thought it was over before he’d begun! Next, humility is where God’s strength begins. Next, Karl lied to get into bible college, owning it led to a breakthrough. Then, Jesus’ strategy for killing our sin. Next, desperate dependence plus Spirit-powered effort is a bridge to God’s power. Then, the way we come to Jesus is the way we grow in Jesus, we never move on from the gospel. Finally, Jesus coaches us up when we fail, to teach us how to be free from sin.

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Shawna can feel like she’s been left behind, especially when she looks at social media and sees other women just crushing it. But she’s learning that if she keeps her eyes on Jesus, she isn’t behind at all, she’s right where she belongs. Then, the ways Jesus has grown Perry in his journey:  By experiencing Jesus’ furious love, through being blind-sided by life, through his failures, through feeling forsaken by God, through the accusations of the enemy, through closed doors, through scars that won’t fully heal till heaven. 

Next, Chris, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener shares how one of his deepest scars has been a huge part of God’s plan to save him. Then, Jesus demands complete surrender to him, because he knows something we don’t; that complete surrender is the path to pure joy. Finally, 27-year-old Sarah Rijfkogel, worship leader at Grand Rapids First went to be with Jesus in January. Her life says, “You don’t know how long you have; you just have to be faithful with the time you’re given.”

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If we take a deep look at how Jesus did life in the gospels, we’ll learn to walk as he walked.  Steve Norman of Winning at Home and host of the Hope Through Hard Stuff podcast shows us how to be transformed by following in the footsteps of Rabbi Jesus. Here’s what we learn from Jesus: First, He knew the word and loved the word, but even he was not afraid to ask questions. Questions help us grow deep in the word. Then, Jesus spent time alone with the Father. It’s where we see what we’re made of, it’s where we experience deep soul rest in a noisy world. Next, we’re never more like Jesus than when we’re sharing a meal with someone far from God. Then, Jesus pursued the outcasts that the religious leaders rejected. Finally, Jesus challenged religious systems that kept the marginalized from God. If this helps you grow, please share!

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It’s was an overwhelming gift of being filled with the love of Christ when Perry was 16, like waves and waves of liquid love rolling over him. And the very next day he sinned big time. God had given Perry such a beautiful gift and he trampled on it. Was there grace after such a failure? Then, we are born orphans, with an orphan spirit. But through the extravagant love of God, we are adopted into his family. And yet having been adopted, we can still feel like the orphan, we can still struggle to believe we are loved. Next, Perry had gotten his prized Ovation guitar for college graduation. Then the Lord asked him to give it away. He didn’t want to give up his precious! Next, 1000 Muslim people groups that have yet to hear the good news, “Lord break our hearts with what breaks yours!” Finally, Perry can’t believe it, of all the experts she could choose from to learn something new, Shawna would go with a nutritionist.  And she stands her ground!

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Shawna saw her come in the door of the restaurant. It looked like the young woman was meeting up with a guy for a first date. And Shawna noticed that her zipper was down. Should she tell the stranger, if so how? It’s a conversation about being loving and honest in our relationships. Then, we’re in an spiritual war with unseen enemies. Ramona, a Perry and Shawna Mornings listener feels it in her family and sees it in the body of Christ. So, we pray!

Next Shawna once believed that if she gave her life wholly to Jesus, that’s she’d have a smooth life. She’s learned otherwise and so has Jen Ledger, the drummer for Skillet. A conversation about God’s power being perfected in our weakness. Then, there’s sickness, chaos, and pain in our world, and as Jesus people, he calls us into the pain to heal it. Finally, Perry tries to convince Scott to have his first cup of coffee during the morning show instead of just after, to put a little pep in his step :)

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Greg from Zeeland joins the team and shares his beautiful heart in such a real way. He wants so much to share the love of Jesus in his workplace, he longs for his co-workers to know Jesus’ love. He wants to talk to the guys, but it’s scary.  And the song We Speak Jesus is giving him hope! Then Greg opens up about his longing to be the spiritual leader in his family.  And Perry and Shawna coach him up.  Next Shawna shares the incredibly high bar of loving as Jesus loves. That can be discouraging if we try to reach it in our own strength. But we can never love as he does in our own strength—a conversation about loving with the power of the Spirit.

Then a couple weeks ago Perry and Shawna were with the Moody Radio morning teams across the US and they saw Ephesians 4:2-3 come to life!  “Be completely humble and gentle; be patient, bearing with one another in love. Make every effort to keep the unity of the Spirit through the bond of peace.” Next Perry shares how it feels risky to share his story because there’s a lot of junk and sin in it. But he knows it’s worth it because it reminds him of Jesus’ mercy and gives others hope that they too can be forgiven.  And finally, Greg from Zeeland steps back in to give us a job performance review.   Share this show if you’re encouraged by it!

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Shawna was so overwhelmed by the love of God that she couldn’t wait to spend time with him. It’s a call to lavish our love on the One who gave his life for ours. Then, we’re called to love the unlovable, to even love our enemies. But what do when the enemy is you? What can free us from self-condemnation and even self-hatred? Next, Perry shares what he learned from his mom as she faced some really hard things in her last years of life.  Then, you’re going to cross paths with someone today who feels unwanted, that they don’t matter. Be ready to be a bridge of Jesus’ love to them. Next, if you’re facing the impossible, we want to remind you that nothing in all creation is impossible with God. And finally, Jesus believes in you. He believed in you before you ever believed in him.

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God wants us not just to understand, but to experience his healing love. He longs for us to hear him saying, “you are loved, you are seen, you have worth, you belong, and you are known.” So today author York Moore provides a bridge into experiencing God’s love. We talk about his book, co-authored with Gary Chapman, Seen, Known, Loved. 5 Truths About God & Your Love Language. First, York shares his a-mazing story. He came from a family of brilliant atheists.

As a young man he decided there was no meaning to life, so he got in his car, hit 90 on the freeway and aimed for a cement wall. What happened next changed his life forever. Next, Shawna’s ride into work today was a metaphor for her life. Then, when you hear God speaking your love language, you’ll experience his presence. Next, whether you know it or not, right now God is hugging you. Then, God’s presence heals you. Next, York creates a bridge for you to experience God’s love. Finally, what’s God’s love language? Please share!

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If you want to understand God’s word better, if you want to deepen your love relationship with Jesus, if you want answers to the deep questions of life, then Moody Publishers new resource Bible to Life is for you. Chris Martin, editor of BTL joins our team to talk about this amazing, go deeper resource. First, we get to know Chris: He shares that it took his friends abandoning him in high school for him to completely give his life to Jesus. Then, we can never earn God’s favor, but that’s not the same thing as saying he doesn’t give it. It’s a conversation of how God’s does give his favor, as total gift through Jesus!

Next, Chris whets our appetite for this incredible resource, Bible to Life. Then, the only way to be transformed is by going through some really hard stuff. And by going through hard stuff, we become wounded healers. Next, if you don’t want to wade through the massive amount of content at Bibles to Life, there’s a way to get the cliff notes! And finally, if you’re serious about your faith, you don’t just want to talk the talk, you want Jesus to really live through you. It’s a conversation about being the same person in secret as you are in public. Share this show if it encourages you!

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The incredible gift of drawing near to God is that his light shines into the core of who we are. The painful cost of that illumination is that we see our sin. But that’s where transformation happens. Then, feelings are awesome! Don’t stuff them, don’t reject them, don’t deny them, don’t ignore them, but always submit your feelings to the truth of God’s word. Perry’s learned this the hard way. But it’s a hard-won lesson that has led to life transformation. Next, repentance isn’t beating ourselves up to get to God, it’s about turning to Jesus to find all our heart longs for in him! Finally, grit is the dogged perseverance that we need for our journey to the City of Light. We need it to make it, so how do we get it? 

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Perry felt he was lost forever. What lifted him out of that dark place was learning the difference between faith and feelings. Then, Shawna’s dad just went to heaven on New Year’s Day. Her dad was a Jesus man who loved Shawna well. But for one of our listeners, his dad is SO far from God and he’s asking us for a HUGE favor. Next, Perry shares about his three-day career in the Boy Scouts. Then, for inside out change, our hearts need to be pierced by a sword. Next, the gospel produces in us a humble confidence. That’s what US Olympian David Wise has discovered. Finally, Shawna’s dad thought he was dropping off Shawna for Girl Scouts. But Shawna didn’t go to Girl Scouts. The truth finally comes out after all these years.

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Marina Hofman is a young mom with wisdom way beyond her years. Wisdom that was hard won through a horrific car accident that nearly took her life and her ability to have children. Marina (PhD, theology) is an award-winning author, biblical scholar, and speaker. She teaches at Palm Beach Atlantic University, and has led women's conferences across the planet. First Marina shares about her accident and how God used her precious daughter Willow to heal her while Willow was still in the womb. Then, teaching our kids to think critically in our woke culture.

Next, teaching our kids to ask God for answers to their tough questions. Next, knowing who you are and why you’re here is the key to being the best parent possible. Then, don’t let the culture squeeze you into its parenting mold. Next, how Marina is teaching 3-year-old Willlow to represent Jesus well. Then, the evening little Willow prayed for the power of the Holy Spirit to be poured out on her mom! Finally, Marina’s number one mom advice. Share this show if you’re encouraged by it!

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There may be people in your life that may need to be rescued from foolish choices, or there may be those who are so hurting and broken that they can’t get to Jesus. They need us to help get them to him. It’s a conversation about what this might look like. Then Shawna shares about a day she felt unseen, overlooked, and misunderstood. And it was a simple act of kindness from a stranger that reminded her that God sees her!  Next, God has Kingdom dreams for your life that only you can accomplish and that WILL be accomplished. But get ready for some unexpected turns!  Then when you’ve been comforted deeply by a song, you know it. But what you may not know is the pain that the writer of that song had to go through to bring that comfort.  It’s the story behind Mercy Me’s “Even If,” with Bart Millard.

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In December of 2018 the Collins were $178,448.66 in debt. As a young married couple in full time ministry with a handful of children they began to ask, “Is it always going to be like this?” Chris is a youth pastor and Heather became an ICU nurse to help people and increase their income. In a journey of bold steps and great faith they paid their debt in full in just shy of 3 years. Hearing their story of hardship and trusting God will help you to believe for the impossible in your own life, whatever you are facing.

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God is working mighty wonders in our world and Tim Harris just witnessed some of them in the Middle East! Tim and his wife Miriam have a passion to share Jesus’ love with Muslims and to teach us as well. They are the authors of Loving Your Muslim Neighbor. Tim and Miriam were in Iraq and Jordan from December 23rd to January 9th and witnessed Jesus’ power and love on display. First, they were in the home of a paralyzed Muslim man who just had a dream of Jesus. He is SO close to following Jesus. Then they spent time with Mrs. Z who as she fled Syria with her seven children, had a vision of Jesus who healed her broken body. She now follows him.

Next, they met up with Rose who is the only believer in Jesus in her Muslim village. Miriam was able to pray with her and assure her that she’s not alone, that Jesus sees her! Then they were with Mrs. R who hated Christians but one night as she bowed to say her Islamic prayers Jesus came to her, embraced her, and said, “follow me.” And she did! Next, a conversation about reaching Afghan refugees in West Michigan. And finally, in Jordan, Tim was able to share the good news with Muhammed who had never heard it before. He was drinking in the good news! Please share today’s show. Encourage others with the mighty works of Jesus!

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She walked into her bedroom carrying a load of laundry and caught sight of herself in the mirror. What she saw shocked her and she thought, “I am way too young to look this old.” America's #1 Mom Coach, Hannah Keeley joins the team to share the journey from that moment of shock to where she is now. Hannah’s the host of the TV show, Hannah, Help Me! She’s a mom of seven and if you’re a mom she wants to equip and inspire you for the greatest career on earth—motherhood.

First Hannah shares the moment when she heard Jesus say, “My life for yours!” Then, Hannah cried out to God for help, and he said, “Fold the laundry.” Wait, what? Yup. Next, if your dream for life has died, Hannah has words of life for you. Then, new strategies to rock your mom life, and the first step is going to be the hardest. Then a time out to talk about Star Wars! Next, if you’re a mom your brain is probably working against you, but it’s not fatal, you can flip it! If this show encourages you, share it!

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If your heart is set on that promotion, or meeting the right person, or the healing you need, or getting your next hit cause you’re addicted, or a lie you believe is true, it’s time for a reset. It’s a conversation about what it looks like to set your mind on things above. Then, we’re in an unseen battle, with an enemy who hates us, who’s stronger than us. But there’s no reason to fear because King Jesus has rescued us and freed us to bring the Kingdom of heaven to earth!

Next, if tempting thoughts are trying to take you out, you can demolish them. We talk about how. Then, “one day all the sad things will come untrue.” And some of that future reality wants to spring backward into now. We call that a miracle. And God still does them to fill our hearts with hope for the day when miracles are no longer needed, and because that’s the power of the gospel! If the show encourages you, please share! 

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J. Warner Wallace thought the Jesus story was a myth. But he become curious enough to check out the gospels when a pastor framed Jesus as a wise sage. After six months investigating the claims of the gospels using his skill set as a cold case detective, J. Warner became a Jesus follower. J. Warner joins the team to share what convinced him that Jesus is alive and Lord of all.

Then, courage is something you grow into as you ask God to help you win the day-to-day battles when no one else is looking. Next, if you’re a parent you know it’s a challenge to raise your kids to know and love Jesus. J. Warner shares a powerful way we can do this. It’s a conversation about bringing the truth of Jesus to Gen Z. Finally, J. Warner shares the one thing that gave him pause as he investigated the Jesus story, that made him think, “Maybe Jesus really didn’t rise.” 

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God’s love in Jesus has embraced the worst, the unlovable in us. That’s what changes us. And now that we’ve been loved like this, we’re called to love the unlovable. For Luke Smallbone of For King and Country, the unlovable person for him was his bride Courtney as she wrestled with an addiction to prescription drugs. Then Shawna doesn’t like change because it’s uncomfortable and hard. But she realizes that becoming like Jesus requires change. Find out how she dances with that tension.

Next, singer-songwriter Tasha Layton had a lot of little wounding experiences growing up. And the enemy jumped on those wounding experiences with the lie: “You don’t matter, you should be ashamed of being yourself.” And the lies led to a suicide attempt. Then in high school, Perry and his buddies thought it would be a great idea to make a copy of the key to get into the gym to play hoops. But it was a BAD idea! Finally, what it looks like “to be ready to give a reason for the hope within you,” (1 Peter 3:15).

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If you’re being abused by your husband, it’s time to get out and get safe. David Clarke joins the team with a life-saving conversation about his new book Enough is Enough: A Step-by-Step Plan to Leave an Abusive Relationship with God’s Help. First David defines abuse to make it clear if this is your reality. Then he shares the 4-step process to get out. Next, he gives the biblical grounding for separation from the danger you’re in. Then, a story of a marriage saved through David’s tough love counsel. Next, the destruction that happens if you don’t leave, not just for you, but also your children. And finally, the only way an abusive husband has a chance to repent is if he comes home to an empty home to face the consequences of his brutality. If you need help now, Called to Peace can help now. Please share this!

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If you’ve had the realization that, “Man my life looks good on the outside, but inside I’m a mess,” Perry and Shawna can relate. It can be overwhelming, “Where do I even start to clean up the mess?” Jesus says, “Come to me.” Then, if you’ve been blind-sided by life and you’re wondering, “God what are you up to?” What God is up to is that he is giving you your deepest wish, more of himself. Next, as the Holy Spirt opens our eyes to the shining face of Jesus in his word and he reveals more of his glory, we are changed more and more into his likeness. This is what it means to grow in the knowledge of God! Finally, when we give our lives over to Jesus, he fills us with his living water. But living in a life that’s sometimes really hard, the living water level drops. How do we get filled back up?

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Nobody gets out of the life without a limp. But it’s our limp that qualifies us to heal. The only real healers are wounded healers; Jesus made that excruciatingly clear on the cross. Find healing today from Jesus through some Jesus music people. From Zach Williams who battled the demons of drug and alcohol addiction for 15 years. Then Hope Darst who in her dark night of the soul heard from Jesus, “You belong to me, but you’re not free. I’m going to show you the way out.” Next Natalie Grant shares how God healed her depression but not her anxiety. Why not both?

Then Martin Cash of We the Kingdom shares about his dark wresting with the evil one who was trying to get him to take his life. Next Toby Mac shares the raw grief of losing his 21 year old beloved son Truett. And finally, Jason Gray lost his marriage and lost his faith. And his recovery began with a Rolling Stone article. Share this if you’re encouraged! For help find a Celebrate Recovery group near you. Or call the National Suicide Prevention Lifeline, 800-273-8255. Special thanks to 99.1 JOY FM, St. Louis, MO for producing the artist stories.

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In the 1990’s Bob Blincoe moved his young family to northern Iraq to reach the Muslim Kurds who hadn’t yet heard the gospel. His family along with a few other single men were the first messengers of Jesus to take the gospel there. What God has done since among the Kurds is extraordinary. Yet so much more of Iraq is still waiting! Bob serves as President Emeritus of Frontiers USA ; a movement, with love and respect, inviting all Muslim peoples to follow Jesus. Bob shares how John 3:16 first started beating in his chest at the University of Oregon.

Then, the gospel has taken root in northern Iraq, yet the rest of the country languishes without the message of life. Next, consider taking a short trip with Bob to Bagdad to pray on site for those still waiting to hear the good news and to prepare the way for messengers of Jesus to come. Then, “Bob, I’d be willing to go but you don’t know the skeletons in my closet, I’m just not qualified!” Finally, the cost of going to the Muslim world and the staggering promises of God that help us face the cost. If this challenges you, please share!

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Maybe your gospel gets you in God’s family, and it’s something you share with people who don’t know Jesus. But it stops there. Your gospel gets you in, but then it’s on you to keep yourself in. If so, your gospel doesn’t go far enough or deep enough. Today we go deeper. It’s a conversation about how the gospel gets us in God’s forever family, grows us, matures us, empowers us, and fuels us for our journey. And it’s the gospel that will bring us into all God has promised—The day when we’re breathing the air of the new heavens and new earth in an indestructible body with people from every language, ethnicity, family, and nation, experiencing the bottomless ocean of God’s love! Helping us go deeper is Jared C. Wilson, who’s a professor at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary. He’s also the host of The Art of Pastoring Podcast. And Jared has a ton of books about how the gospel is our life, our breath, our hope, our everything!

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From eternity the Father, Son, and Spirit have been pouring oceans of love into one another. It’s been a Dance of love that is pure joy itself. And prayer is coming into this Dance! Asherita Ciuciu joins the team to help us thrive in the joy of the Dance. We talk about her book coming in April: Prayers of Rest. Daily Prompts to Slow Down and Hear God’s Voice. Asherita is a speaker, author, and host of the Prayers of Restpodcast. First, maybe you feel ashamed because you’re just not praying enough, Asherita shares words of freedom for you.

Then, how our prayers can affect a thousand generations! Next, Rest Prayer: recite God’s goodness, express neediness, seek stillness and trust his faithfulness. Then, what God brought to Perry’s mind immediately after he prayed, “Lord is there something else you want to say to me?” Next, the gospel frees us to experience the oceans of God’s love. Then, the power of praying the names of God. Finally, Asherita shares that when she came to the end of herself in a power struggle with one of her children, she cried out for God’s strength! 

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Actor Antonio Sabato Jr. is no stranger to the TV/Film stage with roles in The Big Hit with Mark Wahlberg, CSI: NY, and Melrose Place. Most recently Antonio stars in God’s Not Dead: We the People.  Today Anthony shares his riveting story—His great-grandparents were murdered by the Nazi’s at Auschwitz, his mother and grandmother lived under the oppression of Soviet communism in Prague.

Antonio shares that through the grit passed down from his family and through knowing Jesus, he has a passion to communicate the transformative power of God through film. Case in point, we talk about his leading role in God’s Not Dead: We the People, the story of a homeschooling family whose right to use the bible as part of their curriculum is threatened by a city official. They find themselves swept up in a battle for religious freedom that goes from the heartland of America to the halls of Washington DC. If today’s show inspires you, please share! 

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Maybe not. But look at it this way:  Prayer is relationship with Jesus. In a thriving prayer life, we know that we are loved by God as we are, not as we should be. And we know that we can come to God not because we’re so good, but because he’s so good! Today Perry teams up with Matt Chandler, the lead pastor of teaching at the Village Church in Dallas. Maybe you can relate, I’m unworthy to come to God, I feel guilty about not praying more, I’m not qualified to get close to God, God knows all my junk, God let me down, he didn’t answer my sincere cries for help, prayer doesn’t work. If relate to any of this, find out how the gospel is the remedy to give you the freedom to go deeper into prayer. Into Jesus!

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If you’ve trusted Jesus to forgive you but you have doubts that you’re in his family to stay, Perry can relate. Perry shares what he’s learned through his doubts—to trust in Jesus’ performance and not his own, and to trust that there’s no fine print canceling any of God’s promises. Then, Shawna’s dad went to heaven on New Year’s Day, and he left Shawna with a priceless gift—a deep love for God’s word. It’s a conversation about what it looks like to pass on a love for the word of God to your kids. Next, you’re going to hit the wall in your journey with Jesus. You’re going to come to the end of yourself. You’re going to be blind-sided by life. How do you survive when it happens? And finally, God’s word lights our path in life, but it’s not usually like a blinding spotlight that lights up a dark woods, it’s more like a flashlight that gives you just enough light for the next step.

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Shawna’s learning in the slog of life that she can do all things through Christ who gives her strength—she can do generous things, she can do things without sleep, she can be happy in really hard stuff because she knows the true source of joy. Then, when Perry was 18, he longed to come to Jesus with all his junk, but he felt he had to clean himself up first. That’s when Jesus arranged a meet up that changed his heart forever. Next, there was a man who just couldn’t believe in God becoming a man. But on a snowstorm Christmas eve as he tried and failed to get a flock of birds into his warm barn, he became a believer. Finally, if you or someone you know doubts the resurrection of Jesus, if you would, consider some compelling historical evidence.

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Life will look a whole lot better if you look at 2022 through your Jesus glasses. Here are four things you’ll see when you put them on. First, God has put dreams in your heart to make this world a better place. But maybe fear has held you back from pursuing those dreams or maybe you have pursued them, but you’ve got nothing to show for all your efforts. If that’s you, you need to know about the safety net!

Next, it’s been a tough week for Shawna, losing her dad on New Year’s Day. But Jesus has carried her, through a friend who didn’t know what to say, but just listened. Next, it was a summer morning at Perry’s grandparents farm in Levering, MI that gave him his first longing for heaven. And finally, if you haven’t come back to church since the pandemic cause you’ve gotten out of the habit, come home to the place where heaven meets earth.

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Some sweet shades for you to wear in 2022. If you do, here’s what life could look like: Shawna has struggled with anxiety for 30 years. But what the struggle looked like then and what it looks like now is massively different, and the difference has everything to do with trust muscles. Then one of Perry’s most listened to songs in 2021 from Spotify Wrapped was Ross King’s, Things I’m Afraid Of. It’s a conversation about how feelings, as overwhelming and convincing as they can be, are not the truth. Next, if you feel you’ve out-sinned God’s promises and that you’ve been banished to the bench, never to be useful to God again, nope! Then, if you want more joy in your life, you need more obedience to God. Wait, what? Yup. Finally, Jesus is like a janitor, and he’s like a patent. Perry’s mom explains in a way only she can. Share this if you’re encouraged by it!

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Seeing 2022 through a Jesus lens!  First, one of our listeners Jason, emailed us: “Can you suggest any material on how best to share Jesus? A guy who does some work for me just lost his wife who was in her 30’s. I don’t know him really well but want to offer words. Jesus is opening these doors for me, and I need to walk through them.” So, Shawna and Perry have a conversation about sharing the good news in a relational, organic way. Then to follow Jesus we gotta leave some things behind, those things we think we love but really are just ripping us off. Next, God’s plan is mind-blowing: Before the creation of the world, he chose a Lamb to save us. And finally, if you’ve been blind-sided by life, Shawna can relate. And she’s found hope to share with you.

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We kick off 2022 with how to see the new year and thrive in it. First, Shawna fasted from sugar and caffeine in December (!) for one reason alone—she was desperate. Then, the only way we can get back into God’s presence is to come under the Sword of Justice. But none can survive that. Which begs the question:  How can we ever get back into paradise? Next, Shawna’s dad was in his last hours early New Year’s Day and Shawna wasn’t ready to let him go because her dad had loved her so well; she didn’t want to give that up. Then, when you pray, “Lord fill me with the knowledge of your will,” you’re not praying, “Lord show me what you want me to do today.” Your praying, “Lord show me the sweep of your great story of love and my part in it!” And finally, one thing from 2021 that Shawna is pumped about carrying into 2022.

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It’s Freedom Friday! If you’re weary in the war against sin and evil, Samwise from Lord of the Rings has a message for you. Then Mary and Joseph weren’t actually turned away from every home in Bethlehem; they were welcomed by family! Next the three words that became so precious to Perry after his dark night of the soul in 1996—words that come from an ancient story. Then, how a great song is created; out of the dark night of the soul: The story behind O Little Town of Bethlehem.

Next, Perry admits he’d probably still be chained by depression and shame if he hadn’t learned the difference between faith and feelings. Then, the Lord gets giddy when he sees a person who says, “I can’t do this, but God can,” like Mary, the mother of Jesus. Next on Christmas morning of 1996 Perry was hit with the most terrifying thought of his life—and he wants to pass on what God taught him. Finally, Marina Hofman shares how God has used women throughout history up to the present to pave the way for mighty moves of God. Please share!

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Mary, the mother of Jesus was the most important human in the most earth-shaking event in history: Bringing the Messiah into the world. Which could make our calling feel insignificant. But Mary wasn’t super-human, she just humbly said yes to God. Like we can. And there’s so much MORE than that! Helping with the more is author and speaker, Marina Hofman (PhD) who teaches Bible and theology at Palm Beach Atlantic University. We discover from Mary the power of saying yes to God.

We see in her the call to be all in with God yet not have to be all put together. Other powerful take-aways: The same Spirit that conceived Jesus in Mary’s womb is at work in us. Mary walked out her enormous calling by taking the next step. Mary’s life calls us to a long obedience in the same direction. We too bear Christ to our world. When facing the impossible, trust God. And finally, as Mary was assured that “No word from God will ever fail,” we have the same assurance. If this encourages you, please share!

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So, you’re one who’s looking for connection at church. You’re making the effort: You have a small group. You show up most Sundays. You engage in the worship, the teaching. But somehow, you’re not connecting with anybody. What’s the deal? Author and pastor Ben Connelly has some encouragement, actually a map. His latest book is A Field Guide to Genuine Community—25 Days & 101 Ways to Move from Façade to Family. Ben joins the team to talk about the upside of Covid; we’re willing to admit more than ever that we need each other.

Then, what genuine community looks like and how we get there—it has a lot to do with walking with fewer people more deeply. Next, it’s not about launching a new program, it’s about injecting one-another DNA. Then, maybe you’re afraid of getting too close, making yourself too vulnerable. Next, what genuine community for Ben and then for Perry looks like; it’s probably not what you think! Finally, we need to be intentional to connect in a large gathering, but it’s so much easier to run for the door when the large gathering is over!

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If you’re a mama bear, you already know your cubs are being force-fed toxic misinformation about sexuality and gender identity. In their schools. In music. In cartoons. And it’s on you to train them to know God’s design so they can flourish. But you’re not alone, Amy Davison, co-author of Mama Bear Apologetics Guide to Sexuality, has provided you with this incredible book. And there’s even more help at Mama Bear Apologetics to help your kids not just survive but thrive in this post-Christian culture.

In this podcast we talk about why kids are leaving the church after high school and not coming back, and how to reverse this! Then, what to do if your child is gender confused. Next, don’t have the “sex talk,” with your kids. Have a conversation about the beauty and goodness of sex through all their growing up years. Then, how to be an open door that your kids will walk through to talk about sex. Next, be aware of the “sex positivity” movement—it’s something old in a shiny new package. Please share this podcast!

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Only 4% of Gen Z-ers (ages 6 to 24) have a Christian worldview. Gen Z is the first post-Christian generation in America. We could be tempted hang our heads in despair or we can see it as an opportunity for God to do a new thing! Scott Phillips of Passages sees the opportunity. Passages sends college students to Israel to deepen the faith of Gen Z-ers. It’s all about discipling the emerging generation into Jesus-rooted leadership in every sphere of culture.

Scott shares how a student surrendered to Jesus in an ancient chapel in Jerusalem on a Passages trip. He talks about encountering God on a starry night on the Sea of Galilee. Scott shares how his own wrestling with doubt deepened his faith. He tells about a place in Jerusalem where you can stand and visually connect the epic moments of the biblical story. Finally, we wrap up with a deep dive into capturing the hearts of Gen Z-ers with the gospel.

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“Lord there has to be more to following Jesus than what I’m experiencing.” If that’s you, today’s show is all about the more that you’re missing! Kathy Sindorf joins the team to call us to the more.  Kathy has taught communications and media for the past 16 years at Cornerstone University. She’s traveled around the world as a reporter and producer for CBN's "The 700 Club." And, Kathy and her husband Joe are the Grand Rapids Coordinators for "Perspectives on the World Christian Movement.”

The Perspectives class will show you the more that you’re missing. Because it shows how life is God’s story, a story of his great work to rescue the nations and it opens your eyes to how King Jesus is working among the nations and how you can join Him. Perspectives is not a mission class. It’s a “how can I live my life to the full on mission with God” class! If you’re ready to be ruined for the ordinary, listen to the podcast then dive in at Perpectives.org/GrandRapids! 

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Author Vaneetha Risner knows suffering. She had 21 surgeries before she was 13 and was bullied as a child. As a mom she suffered multiple miscarriages and buried a son. All lifelong she’s dealt with a debilitating disease, her first husband left her, and it was so hard being a single parent. Vaneetha understands loneliness, fear and discouragement and the shock of tragedy. But she also knows the grace of God that is poured out on human weakness.

She knows the power of God that redeems us from despair, recreates us from the inside out and flows through our wounds to heal the world. This is her story, and this is her hard-won wisdom that will help you walk alongside those who’ve been blindsided by life. So, if you’re walking with someone’s who’s wounded, or you’re wounded, find real life ideas to help and be helped with Vaneetha’s Helping the Hurting guide. Share today’s show with someone gasping for hope!

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Mark Jobe, Bible teacher on Bold Steps and president of Moody Bible Institute joins the team to share about the world-transforming power of the gospel. First how the shaking of our world is opening hearts to the gospel, like the big guy at Mark’s church with a tattoo across his head. Next, how Mark keeps his focus on Jesus during this crazy, busy season. Then the Moody Radio listener who gave her life over to Jesus this year. Then if Paul hadn’t planted the gospel in the Roman Empire in the 1st century, we’d probably still be waiting to hear it. Next the Moody Radio vision to reach not only more people in West Michigan in 2022 but also across the oceans! And finally, the gospel gets us into God’s family and grows us up in God’s family!

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Two Thirds of 18-29 year-olds who grew up in the church have left. Why? We gave them everything expect the presence of God. An assist from Jim Samra, lead pastor of Calvary Church in Grand Rapids, MI. Then if Perry could give drivers in Michigan (himself included) one thing; it would be the patience not to ride the bumper on the car in front of us. Next, the only gift that will satisfy our deepest longings this Christmas is the living presence of Jesus. Then, God is not a doctrine, a philosophy, a force, a theology textbook. He’s a person to be experienced, to be encountered. Jim Samra shares how he experienced God in college—God taught him Calculus. And finally, what does it look like that the Word of God who created the universe became a human being? It looks like a man trying figure out how to rescue birds in a winter storm.

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You know the genealogies in scripture?...So and so is the father of so and so and on and on. Zzzzzz. I know! But the first chapter of the book of Matthew starts with the genealogy of Jesus and the names listed tell us a ton about who Jesus is! By knowing who those people are and their stories we can be sure of three things: 1.) Jesus is King 2.) Jesus is for everyone, everywhere and 3.) Jesus redeems all things! Listen to this episode for more. It’s actually very interesting, I promise!

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Weeping at the feet of her dear ten-year-old Christianna who had just died unexpectedly, with the sword of grief severing her soul, Jesus spoke, “In this world you will have trouble, but take heart, I have overcome the world.” Today the heart-wrenching, hope-creating story of Christa Murphy, M.D. From the age of six Christa dreamed of caring for the physical and spiritual needs of children. Her dream was realized when she and her husband Rob, and five children moved to Zambia to care for the least of these.

But four years into the dream everything went horribly wrong. Christa was betrayed by a close friend, her Christianna died unexpected, and her dream died as Christa and her family moved home to drown in grief. But as the kernel of wheat had died and gone into the ground, life was about to emerge. This, we think, may be a story you need to hear several times and share with everyone you know. Christa is the founder of Joy Family Health whose vision is to restore joy to healthcare by providing simple, personalized, affordable health care where patients are treated like family.

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Lisa Anderson of the award-winning ministry, Boundless joins the team to share how Jesus has captured her heart, and how to be recaptured by Jesus’ love this Christmas. She also rocks it with creative gifts ideas within your budget and serves as travel agent to help us save money on Christmas travel. What can we say? She does it all! Boundless is a ministry of Focus on the Family for Millennials and Gen Z-ers. Through articles, blogs, podcasts, and the power of community, Boundless empowers twenty and thirty somethings for a life filled with purpose, relationships that thrive, and a faith that goes the distance.

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It’s so easy to live life tight-fisted, to have our plan, to be uninterruptible. Mary, the mother of Jesus was so opposite that. Talk about plans changed! “You are going to be the mother of the Messiah.” It’s a call to trust and surrender. Then, believers from Muslim background in Afghanistan are facing the ferocity of the Taliban. They have something to teach us who live in “the Disneyland of the universe,” (America). Next, life in Jesus looks like living with nothing to lose. Because even if we lose everything, we still have the One who is everything. Finally, as someone rescued by Jesus, you’re in his big story to rescue the world. And the only way to make the most of our place in his big story is to allow ourselves to be ruined for the ordinary. Perspectives will do that. Find out more!

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Maybe you or someone you know has some childhood memories seared into your soul with the hot iron of adrenaline and fear. For five-year-old Greg Stier, it was the memory of his ma beating his stepdad with a baseball bat. Greg grew up in a family of bodybuilding, tobacco-chewing, fist-fighting, violent thugs. He never met his dad, his mom got pregnant in a one-night stand. He left town, she wanted to abort Greg. But Jesus saved Greg for so much more! Greg’s new book, Unlikely Fighter is the staggering story of how Jesus changes everything.

Greg shares how “Yankee” shared the gospel on a dare with the most violent of Greg’s uncles, a guy who once choked 2 police unconscious at the same time. We hear about Greg’s Christmas surprise that was like a searing knife to his soul. Also, flipping off the devil; the wound of shame that was so deep in his mom’s soul; his brother Doug’s transformation in a mental institution; the ceaseless prayers of his grandmother for her violent children. Finally, how Dare 2 Share, led by Greg, is transforming the first post Christian generation in America, Gen Z. Please share this!

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Her ministry began going door to door asking the poorest of the poor families this 5-word question, “How can I help you?” And God took that humble heart to birth a ministry (Ministry through Movement) that has started 3 churches in South Africa, has 4 pre-schools that feed, clothe, and educate children who live in dumps. MTM also feeds 325 poor children every day and helps the kids with their homework. And because of this extravagant love of Jesus displayed, poor families in South Africa are coming into God forever family. This is Annalie’s story of transformation and how Jesus is using her humble, surrendered life to repair her world in South Africa.

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Today, Afton, one of our listeners shares how Jesus embraced her at one of her lowest points through Jesus’ people—she realized Jesus wanted her! Then singer/songwriter Crowder shares how Jesus found him after he’d had enough with organized religion. Then if you’re far from God and you want to come back, but you don’t know how, Perry’s got an idea for you. Next, if you’re in a storm, and you need direction, but it feels like God is sleeping, Tim Keller proves it’s not true.

Then Luke Smallbone of For King and Country shares what he learned during a season of suffering when he almost died. Next, if you need to make a big decision and there’s no chapter and verse in God’s word to show the way, here’s what you should consider. And finally, Bart Millard of MercyMe shares about a season when he couldn’t get on stage and say, “God’s got this,” because he couldn’t really believe it himself. It’s the story behind their song Even If. Please share if you’re encouraged!

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West Michigan’s Bradley Sinclair, who performed on the 20th season of The Voice joins the team today! Bradley who now lives in Nashville was one of 40 remaining singers among the 33,000 who auditioned for season 20. He shares what it was like to compete, succeed, and then lose without being devastated. He shares “Difficult Day,” the song he wrote in LA shut up in a hotel room, during Covid, feeling alone and a long way from home during his stint on The Voice.

He talks about what it took to make his parent’s faith his own; coming to the realization that it’s not about performing to get God’s approval, but that it’s about a relationship with a God who loves us as we are, not as we should be. And finally, he shares about the stranger at the airport who confirmed his passion and pursuit to create music for the Creator. If you’re inspired by Bradley’s story, please share!

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Author and speaker Paula Jauch was our guest today on Perry & Shawna Mornings. Her book Cross Addicted: Breaking Free from Family Trauma & Addiction is a hopeful path to recovery as she tells her own story of growing up on the streets of Las Vegas surrounded by addiction, abuse, gang violence, and family dysfunction. She joins us today to talk about how to survive and actually enjoy the holidays when gathering at the Thanksgiving table means stepping into unhealthy family systems.  From simple selfcare to total reliance on God’s care, this episode is full of honest tips on how to continue the healing even through the mess we call “the holiday’s”. In every season, we have reason to give thanks!

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Freedom Friday rocks! Here’s what went down on Freedom Friday.

It’s easy to be grateful for those highlight moments of life but we have so much to be thankful for in our ordinary, every day lives as well. Sharon, one of our Moody Radio Family listeners, called in to share that she is grateful for God’s discipline in her life. Scott and Shawna talked about what it means to live in the freedom Christ won for us in our relationships with one another and with God. Scott shared the backstory on the man who wrote the song Amazing Grace. Wow! What a story! And we talked about the power of words of encouragement and some practical ways to be encouragers to those around us. Enjoy! We’re glad you’re here

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If you’ve encountered Jesus, you have a story. You might not think it’s that spectacular, but it is. Every life change is a miracle. And today, Patrick from Grand Rapids, MI, a listener like you, tells his story—we hope to hear yours someday soon! Patrick started following Jesus at 17. But addiction and feelings of rejection dogged him into his 30’s. That’s when a miracle and Celebrate Recovery happened. Then Patrick shares about the pain that was underneath his addiction. Then, Perry used to be The Belly-Button Monster—what even is that? Next, how Jesus is using 89.3 to give Patrick the deep roots of faith that he’s always longed for. Finally, if you feel alone with your struggle, maybe too ashamed to share, it seems hopeless, Patrick has life-changing wisdom (seriously) to share with you.

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Steve Arterburn has over 15 million books in print including Every Man’s Battle and The Life Recovery Bible, he’s a Christian counselor, the host of New Life Live! He’s the teaching pastor at Northview Church in Carmel, Indiana and a sinner saved by God’s extravagant grace! It’s a conversation about reaching out for help! First, avoid the church that bad-mouths Christian counseling. Then, “I’ve been delivered so I don’t need counseling.”

Next, if your marriage is dead, try this. Then, what to do with your anxiety, Next, Steve’s faith story, he was drowning in the shame of talking his girlfriend into an abortion. Then, “The apostle Paul didn’t need counseling, why do I??” Next, why “Change your thinking, change your life,” won’t change your life. Finally, the event launching next fall at Museum of the Bible that may be a catalyst to spiritual awakening for young women in America. If this encourages you, please share!

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Perry shares how he used to imagine Jesus frowning on him because he was looking at Jesus through the lens of his shame. It’s a conversation about how Jesus has carried our shame so that we can see his smile. Then Matthew Hein of “I Am They” shares the story behind their song Faithful God (A woman whose cancer diagnosis created “angry faith”). Then Shawna shares how her angry outburst playing Settlers of Catan was a teaching moment from the Holy Spirit. Then singer/songwriter Jordan Feliz, shares about a bout of extreme anxiety and depression and how heaven broke into his pain. Finally, as soon as you think you’re humble, you’re proud of it. What to do when pride raises its ugly head!

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Becky grew up in a pastor’s home loving Jesus and yet experienced the trauma of on-going sexual abuse as a child through several members of a family in her dad’s church. She thought of every way possible to take her life as a teenager. She was abandoned by her first husband and left homeless with her four children in a Michigan winter. She went through 2 years of agonizing loss:  5 babies to miscarriage and 1 to stillbirth, her mom, her brother, her friend Lisa who died in Becky’s basement of a massive heart attack. And in all this, Becky is filled with hope. Because Jesus broke into Becky’s darkness and has redeemed and restored and given her a message for those who’ve lost hope, maybe you? Becky Nordquist is an author, worship leader, recording artist, and wounded healer with a passion to bring the life of Jesus to the desert places of your life. This is her story—please share!

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Gratitude is life-giving. That’s what God’s word shows us, but science also backs it up! Then salvation is SO much more than just a ticket to heaven. It’s being made well in every way—body, soul, mind, and spirit which is what we’ll experience in the new heavens and new earth. But it’s also the future resurrection breaking into our now! Next, how to make gratitude a muscle so that you’re strong especially when life is hard. And finally, a conversation about CS Lewis’ thoughts on grumbling:  “Hell begins with a grumbling mood, always complaining, always blaming others...but you are still distinct from it…But there may come a day when there will be no you left to criticize your grumbling, but just the grumble itself, going on forever like a machine.”

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Tessa's back!  Tessa Afshar is an award-winning author of biblical and inspirational historical fiction, including Harvest of Rubies, Pearl in the Sand, and Daughter of Rome. She's also written a bible study on the book of Ruth: The Way Home.  Tessa was born and raised Muslim in the Middle East. Her parents divorced when she was 14 and she and her mom moved to the UK and then to the US. In all her time in the UK and US, no one ever shared Jesus with her. So Jesus came looking for her in a dream that has changed her life forever. This is an amazing woman, a great friend of Perry and Shawna Mornings and a story you MUST hear! Please share if this ecourages you.

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A man whose family went off the rails, and everyone found out about it, shows us what it looks like to give thanks when life is super hard. An assist here from bible teacher, Brad Gray of Walking The Text. Then optimism is the unwavering expectation that our loving God is working in every situation for our good—It’s a conversation about feeding your gratitude and starving your complaining. Next, bible teacher Brad Gray was having a bad day, grumbling, complaining, feeling sorry for himself. That’s when the Spirit prompted him to do something he did NOT feel like doing, but it was a game-changer. And if your child comes to you with doubts about their faith, don’t freak out! Welcome their doubts! Doubts are meant to be a bridge to deeper faith.

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Bat was one of the first twenty followers of Jesus in atheistic Mongolia in 1990. Now he’s on the leading edge of bringing the gospel to all of Mongolia through gospel radio. Bat’s vision is to see 24 FM stations blanketing Mongolia with the good news of Jesus! Bat—Batjargal Tuvshintsengel is the head of Far East Broadcasting Company in Mongolia. He’s joining the team today along with Ed Cannon, the president of FEBC. First, Bat lived the first 20 years of his life not knowing there is a God, but Jesus found him.

Then, Bat shares how the gospel has come to Mongolians through gospel radio since 2000 and how Moody Radio listeners like you have been part of reaching people who had never heard! Next, Ed Cannon shares the vision of reaching the rest of Mongolia by adding another 11 stations and how you can be part of making this happen. Then, it’s always been God’s plan, since the book of Genesis for all peoples to know the living God. And finally, the reason Ed is involved now in reaching the those who’ve never heard the gospel is Jesus through Moody Radio!

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Friday’s are FREEDOM Friday’s on Perry & Shawna Mornings! God’s word says we are free from condemnation so why do we have condemning thoughts or hear condemning voices. Shawna shares how to silence them.  Maybe the word “repent” is a negative one for you. Hear the beautiful invitation of Jesus when he said it and what it means for us. When Jesus said, “My yoke is easy and my burden is light” does that mean I’m free from sin and now I can do whatever I want? Scott helps us to understand what that scripture means. If you don’t feel thankful you might be able to get there by giving thanks! And how do we use our freedom to show love to one another? We took on that one too. It was a potpourri of conversations about life looking through the lens of scripture. Happy Freedom Friday!

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As an atheist CS Lewis dreaded death, but after Jesus crashed into him, he saw it as “an approaching adventure.” And the hope of the adventure to come propelled him to live his life to the full for the one who loved him—and the reality of our death and the hope that’s beyond death is meant to propel us to make the most of every single moment! Then Shawna shares a moment she regrets, a moment her words wounded her daughter and why that’s one of the reasons for launching The Abstaining From Complaining Challenge in November. Then how The Challenge transformed what should have been a horrible day into laughter at the end of that day for Andrea’s family. And finally, if you’re in Jesus’ family but you have this nagging feeling that one day he’s going to kick you out, find out from Jesus’ words how that will NEVER be the case.

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You may feel that God is pushing you away, but nothing is further from the truth. Jonah found that out from the belly of a great fish. But maybe that’s how feel: “I’m in the belly of a fish cause God has banished me.” Then, if God were to send down his fire on all the wicked, we’d all be consumed because “There is no one righteous, not one (Rom. 3).” An assist from our buddy Tim Keller. Next, Perry shares that if the gospel is simply good advice, moral teachings, a code of ethics, he wouldn’t be on this radio show/podcast. He’s on the show cause Jesus is rescuing him from all his failures to live up to really good advice and solid moral teaching. Finally, either Jesus was a liar, a lunatic, a myth, or who he claimed to be—the Word of God who came to live among us. Who is Jesus to you?

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It’s only when we know we can’t save ourselves, that we see Jesus for who he is:  Our great Rescuer. But our pride will keep us from seeing him. An assist from Tim Keller, the founding pastor of Redeemer Church in Manhattan. Then Shawna admits when circumstances don’t go her way, she immediately goes to complaining. But she’s on a mission to change that for herself and you with the Abstaining from Complaining Challenge.

Next, when you surrender to Jesus as Lord, he messes with all your plans, and it hurts, but he does this to give you something better:  Real life! Another assist from TK. Then a riff on Jeremiah 29:13—"You will seek me and find me when you seek me with all your heart.”  Next how Jesus wrecks my tidy little cottage of a life to make me into a palace. And finally, how Jesus changes our hearts—through exile. Share the show if it encourages you!

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Shawna’s raising the bar! As giving thanks is more on our radar in November, Shawna is challenging us to not only give thanks but to stop complaining. It’s the Abstaining from Complaining Challenge. To take the challenge text 800.968.8930. You can hold Shawna accountable, but Perry’s not sure he’s taking the challenge yet. : ) Then, Jesus is not just a prophet as Muslims believe, not just one among many gods as Hindu’s believe, not a myth as post moderns believe, he’s the Lord. Next, we are what we focus on, what we fix our gaze on, what we meditate on, what our hearts and minds dwell on. As we keep intently gazing on Jesus, the Spirit opens our eyes to who he really is and changes us into his likeness. And finally, when Jesus looks at you, he’s sees through your sins, the labels you’ve been given, the wrongs been done to you, he sees the one he loves.

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It’s Freedom Friday! Jordan Humbarger, young adults pastor at Engedi joins the team with a conversation about standing strong in our battle with an enemy who’s smarter than us and stronger than us. First, God’s strength comes when we admit, even boast in our weakness. Then, being strong is recognizing we’re not strong on our own. Next, Satan poses as an angel of light—Jordan experienced this interviewing at a famous on the outside, but sinful on the inside church.

Then, how the power of Jesus healed Jordan’s bitterness toward his dad and restored their relationship. Next, how Jordan broke free from porn when he came to the end of trying to break free. Then, find out why a Muslim Imam said, “that’s brilliant!” to Jordan after he shared his motivation for serving God. Next, Satan’s strategy is to divide and conquer. And finally, one of God’s most power truths, your failure is NOT the last world. Share this!

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The culture says, “Follow your heart. Just do it. You do you. Express what you feel is true.” And so many are going off the cliff with that advice. Jesus Christ is true north in a culture adrift! Then, you may be a silent sufferer, no one knows your private pain, wounds, shame. But God knows and sees and will redeem what no one else knows. Next, “Christ lives through me!” It’s sounds so amazing, but is it really true? In 1920 Uganda, Elizabeth wounded Florence deeply. They were both in Uganda to share Jesus. Florence was being swallowed by bitterness and decided to leave. But the Christ in her had another plan. Then, work with me here:  if Jesus were a tightrope walker flawlessly walking back and forth across the Niagara Falls, then faith is not just believing Jesus can do that, but it’s getting in the wheelbarrow. Finally, Perry fact checks a story Shawna shares in the show and Perry’s skepticism gets a beat down. : )

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Today, Paul’s gospel versus the American Evangelical gospel, they’re really different from each other, check it out—we get an assist from John Mark Comer, teaching pastor at Bridgetown Church in Portland. Then, it’s not, “What would Jesus do?”  It’s “If Jesus were you, what would he do?”  It’s a conversation about what it’s looks like that Christ lives through us. Next, the true gospel is so much better than the one we may be settling for.

Then, the American Evangelical gospel is not untrue, it’s just missing SO much. Then “Being a Christian is more than just an instantaneous conversion - it is a daily process whereby you grow to be more and more like Christ.” And finally, heaven isn’t just a place that we go to when we die, it’s the life of God in us now. And, belonging to Jesus isn’t a ticket to heaven, it’s answering his call, “Follow me,” and then following him for the rest of our lives and into eternity.

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As Jesus followers we still have sinful desires, but we’re no longer slaves to them. Then a riff on Eugene Peterson’s take on Galatians 2:20:  “I tried keeping rules and working my head off to please God, and it didn’t work. So, I quit being a law man so that I could be God’s man. Christ’s life showed me how and enabled me to do it. I identified myself completely with him. Indeed, I have been crucified with Christ. My ego is no longer central. It is no longer important that I appear righteous before you or have your good opinion.”

“And I am no longer driven to impress God. Christ lives in me. The life you see me living is not mine, but it is lived by faith in the Son of God, who loved me and gave himself for me.”  Next, Galatians 2:20 shows us that we are dead to who we used to be. We are alive to who we were created to be. And we are loved like we long to be! Then, you can’t add anything to what Jesus has done for you. You’re forgiven through Jesus alone. So, love because you’re loved, not to get his love.

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PJ is a Muslim background believer in Jesus from Central Asia, he’s a pastor leading many Muslims to Jesus. He’s with us to share how Jesus found his Muslim family and how Jesus is moving among Muslims in Central Asia. PJ’s parents were university teachers in Central Asia, and they were reached by CRU missionaries from America, Germany, and Canada in the 90’s. PJ was drawn to Jesus as he saw his father transform from an angry man to one who treated him with tenderness.

PJ shares about his now assistant pastor who once was trying so hard to earn Allah’s favor. We hear about a Saul who was transformed into a Paul, and how he’s brought his extended family to Jesus! Then how PJ meets up with police who want him to come in for questioning, how Jesus has brought many of these security people to Jesus. Next, we hear about the security agent who was sent to keep an eye on PJ’s church, and how Jesus captured his heart. And finally, how we need not fear, the gospel is unstoppable! Share this!

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Freedom Friday!  First, Jesus has to wreck our self-righteousness to save us, and Perry admits, Jesus needs to keep on wrecking it in him.  An assist from Bible teacher, Rod VanSolkema.  Then, Shawna admits feeling the weight of the world on her shoulders this week and what the Good Shepherd whispered to her to lift it.  Next, “God loves what in us is not yet.”  Then, Perry and Shawna admit that Jesus is most precious to them when they feel least worthy of him.  And finally, Perry admits it’s become all about him again.  If that’s you as well, the good news is that we get to repent and know the Father’s forgiveness and embrace.  Share today’s show if it encourages you. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Sons & Daughters is a movement of Millenials and Gen Z-ers who are done with empty religion.  They're on a journey to live as the Father's unconditionally loved children who've been called into the adventure of partnering with God to repair the world.  Alec Bevere of Sons & Daughters joins the team.  Alec is a co-author of the new book, "I Am", that's all about finding your identity and purpose in Jesus.  First, Alec share how his atheist professor helped convince him there is a God. Then, Alec was labeled "the guy with learning disabilities who couldn't read or write till high school".  Shawna shares how she grew up believing the lie she wasn't smart.  The truth set them both free.  Alec shares that he believed the lie that he wasn't creative and Perry shares that he believed that his sin defined him.  The truth shattered both these lies!  Finally, Alec, shares how his community called out the filmmaker in him.  It's all about the power of community in discovering our identity and calling. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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The storms of life break us free from finding our ultimate identity in anything or anyone else but God. Then, God sees in you what you can’t see, and he says, “I believe that you will become everything I’ve created you to be!”  Next, do you know who you are? The gospel tells us. And the gospel creates in us the humility and confidence and spiritual gifts to heal our world. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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If you’ve ever wondered “Who am I? And why am I here? Welcome. You belong here! We do too. Scott had a near death experience that caused him to believe that God had a purpose for extending his life. He tells that story in this episode. And though there answers to those questions all around us we’ve found the Bible to hold the truth. One of the things the bible says about us is that we are called to a holy life. A life of divine love toward others. The bible also says that we are God’s masterpiece – that our lives are on display for others to view and to reveal the Artist – God Himself. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Knowing who we are is so important to experiencing the abundant life we have in Christ. What you believe about yourself will influence how you behave. So what do you believe about who you are? Is it evident in your life? John the Baptist knew his calling before he was even born. An he lived his calling – to prepare the way for the Lord! Our purpose is not for our own glory but to make God famous. You were born to have a relationship with God and to show the world who He is by the way you live. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Imagine a remote tribe so thirsty for the good new of God's grace.  Imagine being there when they drink the living water for the first time.  Now you don't have to imagine it...because that's exactly what happens in the film "Ends of the Earth", a new film created by Mission Aviation Fellowship and Moody Bible Institute.  Dr Mark Jobe of MBI and David Holsten of MAF join the team to talk about this break-taking film and how there's no sacrifice too great for the sake of the gospel. Within this larger conversation, we hear how Mark's parents were swept up in God's story to bless the nations after hearing about how a young man, Nate Saint, took a speak for the sake of the gospel.  We hear how David watched his mom's funeral through a live stream because he was in a far-flung corner of the world for the sake of the gospel.  You'll be challenged today to lay down your life for the One who gave up everything for you. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today, practicing spiritual habits that cause us to grow deep in Jesus. First, the word of God is our life and breath, and Shawna has some real-life ways for you spend time in the word no matter your schedule. Then, “God’s power is poured through people who die on crosses.”  We get an assist from Dan Mike, teaching pastor at Crossroads in Grand Rapids. Next, Perry wants to have a clone. I know, he’s strange. : ) Then, the spiritual habit that’s given Perry the strength to counter the lies that have been going round in his head all lifelong. And finally, it’s not Jesus and me, it’s Jesus and we; the habit of doing life together! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Growing Deep in Jesus Doesn’t happen overnight. It happens as spiritual habits collide with the power of the Spirit over the long journey of life. Today, Darryl Dash, a Toronto pastor and author of 8 Habits for Growth (moodypublishers.com) joins us. First watching his mom return good for evil over many years created a hunger in Daryl to want Jesus. Then the power is not in the habits, the habits set us up for a meeting with God! Next, how watching his wife lose 70 pounds inspired him to write 8 Habits. Then Perry shares how he went from running on fumes Friday and Saturday, to experiencing deep down renewal on Sunday by practicing the habit of rest. Next the 8 habits and how to mash them up and make them your own! Then, the habit of preaching the gospel to yourself. Finally, the hardest habit for Darryl, it’s the one we need most! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today, what growing in Jesus looks like in real time. For Gabby it looks like not getting irritated with her roommates and praying for great big sinners. For Ebony it’s been the change from being “that girl who’s always angry” to being a woman at peace. For Shawna, it’s not just hearing the word but obeying. For Hadi, it was singing in a prison cell surrounded by twelve Islamic extremists. For Chris Fabry it was holding his tongue when someone cursed him. For an Amish community in 2006 it was forgiving the family of the man who killed five Amish school girls. Share this if you’re inspired! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today what it’s takes to grow deep in Jesus:  Withdraw from the deafening noise of life as a regular rhythm; practice habits that create in us the grit to dream and accomplish Kingdom dreams; surrender to desperation and suffering; and withdraw from the hurry of life often to hear from the Father and soak in his love.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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You have been blessed to be a blessing, loved to share his love!  Today Kandi Zeller joins the team to help us explore what it looks like to be on mission with Jesus.  Kandi is a freelance writer with a passion to help us understand the bible better.  First, mission is a message and a way of life.  Then habits to practice that remind us we’re on mission with Jesus.  Like saying to the barista, “Have a blessed day,” or practicing hospitality.  Next, mission is not Jesus and me, it’s Jesus and we!  Then, it’s OK to not have the answer to that tough question!  Next, see life through another’s eyes.  Finally, people aren’t projects, they are image bearers!  If this encourages you, please share!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Passionate Jesus follower, former NFL Quarterback, and champion of families, Jeff Kemp joins the team today!  First, Jeff’s faith story, he knew about Jesus, but he didn’t know Jesus and during a drunken stupor, Jesus broke through.  Then, every person has a parent wound because there’s no perfect parent yet that wound has a redemptive purpose.  Next, it’s been really hard for Shawna to let go of her daughter who just moved to Europe.  Find out what she’s learning.  Then Jeff Kemp on the power of encouraging our kids.  Next, what a real man looks like.  And finally, if your dad came up short for you, it can help to know his backstory. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Freedom Friday!  First, how God has used the world pandemic to bring a Muslim woman, her brother and twelve others into his family in one of the most closed Islamic countries in the world!  Then, Jesus came to give us “life to the full.”  What that looks like for Shawna whose default is worry.  Next, Jesus frees us from the regrets of the past, and the worries of the future so we can live inside his love now!  Then, the one who loves much is the one who casts all their self-righteousness away and takes their place with great big sinners.  Finally, Jesus calls us not to a miserable existence but into a life of purpose under the smile of Abba!  Share this if it encourages you!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Pastor and author Colin Smith has a passion to help us see the one beautiful love story of the bible.   October 16th Colin will lead the live stream event, Open the Bible.  He’ll unpack that life-changing story (openthebible.org).  You can watch live on the 16th or on demand afterward.  Today, Colin shares how everything in the bible points to Jesus.  He shares how Jesus found him.  Find out how an unreached tribe in Northern Thailand gave him his passion for the word, find out how the bible can help as our world icrashes down.  Then Perry tries to get a Scot to talk like an American. : ) Next, what to do when you’ve no time to spend in the word.  Finally, Colin shares the new thing Jesus is doing in post-Christian UK.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Steve Norman is a pastor, award-winning author, speaker, and coach who loves to share God’s word and help us apply it.  And Steve joins the team.  First, the relevance and power of God’s word to help us forgive.  Then the bible shows us the really real—It shows us who God is, who we are and how to live the life we were created for.  Next, to apply the bible we need to soak it in, do what it says (not just hear it), have and attitude of humility and talk about it in community.  Then, what to do what there’s not a chapter and verse to show us what to do.  Finally, the moment in the show when God took over! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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God’s word is so real life, it speaks to the human struggle and gives power to change.  But there’s an art to learning how to draw from its power.  Author and pastor John Piper shows us what it looks like in real life to overcome fear.  Then the word of God is sharper than a two-edged sword.  It afflicts us when we’re comfortable.  It comforts us when we’re afflicted.  Next what it looks like in real life to overcome overpowering desires through the power of God’s word.  And finally, a real life look at overcoming unforgiveness when we are consumed with exacting vengeance.  If this encourages you, please share!  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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If you listen Open Line on 89.3, then you know Dr. Michael Rydelnik.  Dr. Mike joins the team to talk about his new book 50 Most Important Bible Questions (moodypublishers.com).  First, how an ancient book proves its relevance:  It powerfully changes us!  Then has God hard-wired some to be saved and some to be lost?  Next, when Dr. Mike first decided to follow Jesus, he vowed not be become a fanatic, and yet he did.  Then, the only unforgiveable sin is rejecting Jesus.  Next, believers in heaven are praying for Jesus to return!  Then, how to know God’s will when it’s not spelled out chapter and verse.  Finally, Dr. Rydelnik shows why worry is not a sin. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Freedom Friday!  First, what is it in your and my life that’s ripping us off? Then, our personal experience of “the relentless tenderness of God,” is our megaphone to the world.  Next, when you give up hope of ever being able to change, of ever breaking free to the extent that you even believe it’s God’s will for you to be beaten down.  Then, repentance is a gift!  Because every time we turn from our sin, we see the Father running to meet us.  If this encourages you, share the freedom, share the show!   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Find out what loves looks like from Zechariah toward his attacker who beat him and left him for dead because of his faith in Jesus.  Then, the person who’s being difficult to love is not our enemy.  Realizing that, and praying to yourself during the conflict can bring peace.  Next find out what love looks like after Sarah had pepper pressed in her eyes for sharing her faith in Jesus.   Finally, a couple riffs on Romans 12:18:  If it is possible, as far as it depends on you, live at peace with everyone.  Shawna shares how she used to think this meant being quiet and avoiding conflict at any cost.  And Perry shares about a grudge that started on the basketball court and the years of trying to make peace with the guy he offended. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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There will always be difficult people to love, and the Lord will give you what you need today to love them.  Then, it takes humility and unselfishness to love well.  And Perry admits this is a challenge for him because his pride and selfishness.  But he’s also found the way forward:  The cross.  Next, if you don’t have what it takes to love people well, stop trying!  Yup, cause at the end of our striving is the beginning of God loving through us.  And finally love means risking your life for the one you love.  Share if this encourages you! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Jesus says:  “Love as I have loved you.”  But it’s so much more than just following his example.  It’s mysterious.  The Spirit reveals how much Jesus loves us, and then gives us the power to love.  Then, in the real time of experiencing a difficult person, be praying:  “Lord show me how to love this person well.”  Next, if you’re going to save someone’s life, you must give up your own.  We see what this looks like from the life of Ruth.  And finally, Robin, one of our listeners shares how Jesus has led her to share his love with the construction workers in her neighborhood.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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“I wish the unvaccinated would get vaccinated so this pandemic can end.”  Or “The government has no right to force me to get vaccinated.”  And we draw our lines in the sand and separate.  But Jesus calls us to be different, to love when it’s hard!  Then, loving your enemy is so hard.  So, what do you do when the enemy that’s so hard to love is yourself?  Next, five real life ways to love that person who’s so hard to love.  And finally, the ancient Hebrew prophet Hosea was called to be wounded by his wife’s unfaithfulness, to show his people, to show you and me (!), how much God loves us. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Lee Nienhuis was ready to send her daughter to public school.  She had home-schooled the year before and suddenly fear gripped her, “My daughter’s going to be swept away from her faith in Jesus.”  But instead of giving way to fear, she sent her daughter to that public school and began a Moms in Prayer group.  And the prayers Lee and her friends led to a spiritual awakening in the public school of her West Michigan community.  Be inspired and share!  Lisa is an author and passionate Bible teacher. She is the Communications Specialist for Moms in Prayer International (momsinprayer.org), the Host of the Moms in Prayer Podcast and the Co-host of The Martha and Mary Show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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If you’re single and you’ve experienced the dreaded set up, Lisa Anderson feels your pain.  Lisa is the director of Boundless.org at Focus on the Family and hosts The Boundless Show radio show and podcast. Boundless is a community for Christian young adults who want to pursue faith, relationships, and adulthood with confidence.  Lisa joins the show to talk about set ups.  They can still work.   But it’s gotta be done the right way! Lisa says you gotta have a team to create the set ups and it’s probably not gonna be mom or dad!  Lisa has three people on her team who if they say “no way,” to someone she’s dating, she listens!  We also talk about the unique struggles singles have been facing in the last 18 months, the similarities and differences of Millennials and Gen Z, and how to navigate that first date.     See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Lina Aburjamra was a leader in a mega-church when she started noticing unhealth in the leadership, staggering abuses of power.  She decided to leave, and the leadership more or less said:  “Don’t let the door hit you on the way out.”  This left deep wounds.  She no longer trusted the church; she began to doubt God and deconstruct her faith.  Fractured Faith:  Finding Your Way Back to God in an Age of Deconstruction is her new book born in that season of darkness.  Lina, who’s an author, the host of Today’s Single Christian and an ER doc joins the team today to share her riveting story.  If this gives you hope, please share! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Dr. Randy Schroeder author of Simple Habits for Effective Parenting joins the team.  We talk about leading, not controlling our kids; how to win our kids’ hearts; setting our children up to know Jesus; how unconditional love can heal our kids; that failure as a parent is inevitable and redemptive.  We talk about speaking life to our kids when they’re failing, how to get ahead of the culture in discipling our kids in the way of Jesus; how to parent adult kids and how to win back a prodigal!  Whew! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Our buddy Dr. Greg Smalley , VP of Marriage and Family Formation at Focus on the Family is with us today!  Find out why Perry asks Greg to climb into his clothes basket.  Then Greg shares how is daughter is doing after being blind-sided by divorce.  Next, how to avoid becoming your spouse’s roommate.  Then, how Greg learned to support his daughter after her divorce.  Next, what being there for someone after a divorce looks like.  Also, Greg’s face to face meeting with his ex son in law, and words of hope if you’ve just gone through a divorce.  Next, how Greg is working through his stuff (we all have stuff) to be a better spouse.  Then, a 10-minute investment in your spouse that’s a game changer.  Finally, the wrong and right way to date your spouse.  See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today Eric Demeter joins the team.  Eric works with YWAM in Athens, Greece discipling Muslim refugees.  He is a popular blogger and writer, and his new book is “How Should A Christian Date? It’s Not As Complicated As You Think.”  Eric shares his faith story.  He explains why Christian dating can get weird.  He gives his take on dating websites and what to do if you’ve been hurt by dating.  He shares why singles are not 2nd class citizens!  He gives tips for just starting dating.  Perry asks Eric for marriage advice (Eric’s single).  And it’s gold!  He talks about the tension between asking the serious questions and lightening up.  And finally, the awkwardness of the 1st date, and the guy who met his wife on his 103rd first date! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Stand-up comedian, author, and actress, Chonda Pierce has experienced dark nights of the soul.  And through the hardship she’s found the joy of the Lord and a passion to use her incredible gift of humor to bring healing to the hurting.  She shares about surrendering to Jesus while on the throne—yup, that throne.  Then, following Jesus is not supposed to be easy.  Next, Chonda’s three years in the dark of depression.  Then, if you’re in the black hole of depression H.A.L.T. may help!  Next, the day Chonda’s dad was preaching with his zipper down.  Then, the number one thing Chonda has learned from the covid lockdown.  Next, why Chonda is going around making people laugh in such serious times.  If today’s show encourages you, please share! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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It’s amazing the things we get to do with God.  That he invites us into.  But even with this, we can fall in love with the things we get to do with God.  And then those things we do with him can become idols.  It’s a conversation about where real joy comes from.  Not in what we do with God but in what he’s done for us.  Then, joy is found in knowing God is near, that he will never leave us. Finally, a conversation about Aaron Rodgers’ view of God (Green Bay Packers Quarterback):  “I don’t know how you can believe in a God who wants to condemn most of the planet, you know, to a fiery hell. Like, what type of loving, sensitive, omnipresent, omnipotent being wants to condemn most of his beautiful creation to a fiery hell at the end of all this?”  We don’t believe in this god either! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Joy is not the absence of sadness or hardship; joy comes in knowing that the hardest things in life are leading to our good.  Next, when we gather as God’s people heaven meets earth and the impossible can happen.  This reality has the power to produce joy as we look forward to worshipping with other believers—God gives us more of himself when we’re together.  Then Perry and Shawna riff on James 1:2-4:  “Consider it pure joy, my brothers, and sisters, whenever you face trials of many kinds, because you know that the testing of your faith produces perseverance. Let perseverance finish its work so that you may be mature and complete, not lacking anything.”  And finally, what we choose as our spring of joy, will determine whether we experience lasting joy. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Freedom Friday!  First how to offload anxiety and what God promises when we do.  Then, miracles are expressions of God's love that demonstrate the truthfulness of the gospel.  Next, we don’t have to wonder where we stand with God because of what Jesus has done.  But the reality is, sometimes we do wonder if we have his smile.  There’s only one remedy when that happens.  Then, we need each other now more than ever, but we keep finding ways to push each other away.  Sounds like the enemy’s work.  Time to choose to love.  And finally, Perry shares how the Lord lifted the weight of the world off his shoulders this week!   See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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#SuicidePrevention.  If you’ve lost someone to suicide,  or if you’re walking with someone who’s experienced this loss, or if you believe ending your life is your only option, today’s show is for you.  Rita Schulte is a professional counselor and author of Surviving Suicide Loss: Making Your Way Beyond the Ruins.  Her experience with suicide is not just as a clinician.  She experienced the devastating loss of her husband to suicide.  First, Rita shares about the devasting loss of her husband.  Then, why “They committed suicide,” only adds to the stigma.  Next, the need to forgive yourself for not doing that “one thing” that would have prevented your loved one’s suicide.  Then, how to walk with those who have lost someone to suicide.  Next, if you feel your only choice is to end it all, Rita has a message for you.  Finally, the signs to look for that may give you a chance to save a life.  Share this! See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Caris Snider is a Christian Communicator, author, and worship leader who’s experienced a LOT of anxiety.  But in the journey, she’s discovered some incredible tools to lift the anxiety elephant off your chest. She writes about it in her book, Anxiety Elephants 31 Day Devotional.  But you don’t have to wait for the book, we unpackage those tools today!  First real-life ways to cast your anxieties on the Lord.  Then, how to ground yourself in the moment, living free from past regrets and future “what if’s?” Next, run to God with your anxieties, not away from him!  A great story about how Caris’s daughter just learned this.  Then, rejoice in the Lord, pray continually, and give thanks in ALL circumstances.  Really?  Yup.  Finally, if you feel like you’re going down for the last time, not so my friend.  If the show encourages you, please share!

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What’s wrong with the world today?  I am.  And that’s the first step to bring healing to the world.  Then, in our wounded world, prayer is not the least we can do, it the most we can do.  Next a riff on Psalm 29:11:  The LORD gives strength to his people; the LORD blesses his people with peace.  And finally, the Taliban fighter, proud of the blood on his hands, who then gave his life over to Jesus, left the Taliban and then Jesus told him to go back into the Taliban to share the treasure he had found. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Today Filmmakers Alex and Stephen Kendrick join us!  They’ve written and directed films like Overcomer, War Room, Courageous, and Facing the Giants.  Today they share about their two new films that drop in September, Show Me the Father (September 10th) and Courageous Legacy (September 24th). We talk about the purpose of Show Me the Father—To point us to the perfect Father.  Alex shares about his dad’s father wounds.  We hear how the Father healed Jim Daley’s father wounds  (Focus on the Family President).  Also, the importance of a father’s blessing.  Then how to raise great dads.  We talk about Courageous Legacy, that reunites the cast after 10 years and has a new ending.  Stephen shares one of the powerful inspirations for Show Me the Father, the adoption of his daughter Mia.  Share the show!  Pass the word!  Two new films from the Kendrick brothers. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Do you ever wonder what puts a skip in God’s step? What makes him so happy he starts humming, even singing?  We talked about what the bible says about that today. Have you ever heard or read a verse and heard it again the same day. Yeah, that’s God getting your attention. Shawna had that happen yesterday. She shared the scripture and the message God really wanted her to know. And we got honest about the lies we believe and how they influence our lives & the work of God to gently uproot the lies while planting seeds of truth in the fragile soil of our hearts. Lastly, we had a conversation about how to honor God and others in what we say, whether spoken or typed and posted. Lots of good topics with one great focus - Jesus. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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“Oh to be young again” a mom said to me as we were moving our daughters into their dorm for their first semester of college. “No, thank you!” I thought? I would not give up the hard life lessons I’ve learned for the tighter skin and boundless energy of my youth. Shawna and Scott talk about what the bible has to say about aging, hard things, & not giving up – no matter what! Yes, these times are hard – legitimately hard! But Jesus was honest about that reality. He told us we’d have trouble in our lifetime. But he also promises to be with us through it all – every moment! With our minds set on him we can move from old thought patterns to new, holy thought patterns! We have a good heavenly Father who doesn’t hold out on us but lavishes His love on us. We can count on Him to provide what we need most today. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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What’s your take on evangelism?  Is it like spiritual potty training?   Nobody enjoys it but it’s just something you have to do? Or is the “Great Commission” really a great thing to get to be a part of? David Doerner & Cody Mahaffey of Frontline church joined us in studio today to talk about asking the right questions at the beginning of the conversation to be able to discern if someone is in a relationship with Jesus and the joy of responding to the Holy Spirit’s promptings to share the gospel with anyone anytime. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

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Here’s the deal – we are all broken. Jesus wants to heal every single one of our broken hearts! Paula Jauch is a local award-winning author, and speaker who shares her journey from trauma survivor to helping others heal from their own trauma and brokenness. Through her book Cross Addicted: Breaking Free from Family Trauma and Addiction she offers a hopeful path to recovery for those who are hurting and traumatized. She joined us in studio to talk about how we can find hope and express love to a world that is experiencing trauma. Every one you meet today is hurting in some way. When they bump into you, will they experience God’s love? See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.