After Hours: Conversations for Music Educators: Recent Episodes
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After Hours: Conversations for Music Educators is a music education podcast from Amro Music Stores, Inc. Our After Hours podcast host, Nick Averwater, facilitates engaging conversations each week with band directors, private music teachers, general music educators, orchestra directors, and other music industry professionals just like you. Each podcast guest shares practical advice on things like classroom management in your band program, placing beginners on instruments, band and orchestra recruitment strategies, band boosters, fundraising, and more.The goal of After Hours is to provide a podcast for band directors, orchestra directors, and music educators with strategies for both "on-podium" and “off-podium” skills that can help create a school music program that you can be proud of. If you can't find what you're looking for in our current episodes, we'd love to hear from you! Send us an email with questions or topics you'd like to see addressed in the podcast.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Alice Hammel, a music educator who has dedicated her 40-year career to making music programs more supportive, productive, and enjoyable for students with differences and disabilities.
Dr. Hammel has written four books about this subject, and we have links to them below.
Our conversation was recorded in February 2025.
Dr. Hammel's books include:
Teaching Music to Students with Differences and Disabilities: A Label-Free Approach
Teaching Music To Students With Autism
Teaching Music to Students with Differences and Disabilities: A Practical Resource
Winding It Back: Teaching to Individual Differences In Music Classroom and Ensemble Settings
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Kim Webb, High School Band Director at Greene County Tech in Paragould, Arkansas. Paragould is a city of around 30,000 people located 65 miles northwest of Memphis. In 2024 The Greene County Tech marching band won the state championship in Class 5A.
In the last episode, Kim told us about building and maintaining a culture of success in the band program. This time, we learn more about what it's like when the other high school in town, Paragould High School, also has a tradition of winning state marching band championships.
Our conversation was recorded back in December 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Kim Webb, High School Band Director at Greene County Tech in Paragould, Arkansas. Paragould is a city of around 30,000 people located 65 miles northwest of Memphis. In 2024 The Greene County Tech marching band won the state championship in Class 5A.
In this episode we'll learn about the ways that the band program has grown under Kim's leadership, and how the motto, "Belong, Believe, Become" inspires the students, and promotes a positive environment for them.
Our conversation was recorded in December 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
Here's part one of our interview with Kim in May 2021
Here's part two of our interview with Kim in May 2021
In this episode Nick Averwater continues his conversation with John Easley, Middle Tennessee Educational Representative for Amro Music, and Andrew Demolat, Band Director at Rockvale Middle School, which is part of the Rutherford County School District, located southeast of Nashville. They're discussing the importance of having a successful instrument rental meeting
Our conversation was recorded July 8, 2025. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
This week we're talking about how to make the most of the instrument rental meeting as Nick Averwater talks with John Easley, Middle Tennessee Educational Representative for Amro Music, and Andrew Demolat, Band Director at Rockvale Middle School, which is part of the Rutherford County School District. It's the fourth largest district in Tennessee with over 52,000 students, and is located southeast of Nashville.
Our conversation was recorded July 8, 2025. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
We're posting this on Thursday, July 17, 2025, and it's the fourth in a series of six episodes designed to help you get ready for the new school year. We'll also have new episodes in this back to school series next Monday and Thursday, July 21st and 24th.
This week we're discussing placing beginner band students with the right instrument as Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Sloane Feeley from Woodland Middle School in Brentwood, TN, Spencer Nesvick from Houston Middle School in Germantown, TN, and David Burkhalter from Heber Springs Middle School in Heber Springs, AR.
Our conversation was recorded June 30, 2025. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
We're posting this on Monday, July 14, 2025. It's the third in a series of six episodes designed to help you get ready for the new school year. We'll have new episodes in this back to school series this Thursday, July 17th, as well as next Monday and Thursday, July 21st and 24th.
This week we're discussing placing beginner students with the right instrument as Nick Averwater talks with Sloane Feeley from Woodland Middle School in Brentwood, TN, a city of 45,000 located just south of Nashville, Spencer Nesvick from Houston Middle School in Germantown, TN, a city of 41,000 just east of Memphis, and David Burkhalter from Heber Springs Middle School in Heber Springs, AR, a town of 7,000 located 50 miles north of Little Rock.
Our conversation was recorded June 30, 2025. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
We're posting this on Thursday, July 10, 2025, and it's the second of six episodes designed to help you get ready for the new school year. We'll have new episodes Monday and Thursday for the next two weeks, so we hope you'll keep an eye out for those conversations on July 14th, 17th, 21st, and 24th.
On the 14th and 17th we'll be discussing instrument placement, and the following week we'll look at everything you need to know to have a successful rental meeting.
Today, Nick Averwater continues his conversation about the time between the first day of school, and the day students get their instruments. Our guests include Lauren Duncan from Center Hill High School in Olive Branch, MS, Matt Pickering from Lewisburg Middle School in Hernando, MS, and Joel Roberts from South Marshall Middle School in Benton, KY.
Our conversation was recorded June 26, 2025. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
Here's a link to the interview we did with Rebecca Lowry in August, 2020. On that page there are links to additional information about Rebecca's work
This week we kick off a series of six episodes designed to get you ready for the upcoming school year.
We're posting this episode on Monday, July 7, 2025, and we'll have new episodes this Thursday, July 10th, as well as on Monday and Thursday for the next two weeks, so that will be July 14th, 17th, 21st, and 24th.
The episodes that post on the 14th and 17th will be all about instrument placement, and the following week we'll look at everything you need to know to have a successful rental meeting.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Lauren Duncan from Center Hill High School in Olive Branch, MS, Matt Pickering from Lewisburg Middle School in Hernando, MS, and Joel Roberts from South Marshall Middle School in Benton, KY.
Our conversation was recorded June 26, 2025. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. John Zastoupil, Director of Bands at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville.
In this episode we'll learn more about the responsibilities of the job away from the podium. He'll also tell us what he does to try to achieve a healthy work-life balance in a demanding job such as this.
Our conversation was recorded in December 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. John Zastoupil, Director of Bands at the University of Tennessee in Knoxville.
In this episode we'll learn about the musical path that brought Dr. Zastoupil to UT three years ago, and some of the exciting ways the program is continuing to grow. He'll also share his thoughts on how high school band directors can prepare students who want to be a part of a college band program.
Our conversation was recorded in December 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Faith Serna, Assistant Band Director and Color Guard Coordinator at Highland High School in Highland, Arkansas. The Highland School District serves several small towns in north central Arkansas, and Faith grew up in the district.
In the last episode, Faith talked about starting, or improving, color guard in a marching band, but in this second part of the conversation we'll switch directions and learn more about her first job in music education as band director in a very small school district in McCrory, Arkansas, a town of 1,500 people, located 70 miles northeast of Little Rock. We'll hear about the challenges she faced early on as the high school band director, and how she was able to more than triple the size of the program in the three years that she was there.
Our conversation was recorded in the Fall of 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Faith Serna, Assistant Band Director and Color Guard Coordinator at Highland High School in Highland, AR. The Highland School District serves several small towns in north central Arkansas. Faith grew up in the district, and studied with two band directors who are now her colleagues, Hope and Greg Bruner.
In this episode Faith will tell us more about getting students interested in color guard, the equipment needed, and more.
Our conversation was recorded in the Fall of 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
Here are some documents and videos from Faith that will help you if you're interested in starting a color guard for your band.
This week we wrap up our six-part series looking at recruiting students for your band program as Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Brent Hopper, Nathan Anderson, and Brandan Bakkala. Brent is Middle School Band Director at Lakeland Preparatory School in Lakeland, TN, which is a town of around 14,000 located just northeast of Memphis. Nathan is a band director at Greene County Tech in Paragould, a city of 30,000 in northeast Arkansas. Brandan is Band Director at Valley View High School in Jonesboro, which is the fifth largest city in the Arkansas, with a population of just over 80,000, and is also located in the northeastern part of the state.
In this episode we'll find out how these educators successfully work with school administration, fellow teachers, and especially counselors, to make sure deadlines are met and schedules are set. They'll also tell us how they communicate with parents and students directly, to let them know more about the band program.
Our conversation was recorded January 3, 2025. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
This week we continue with episode five of our six-part series looking at recruiting students for your band program as Nick Averwater talks with Brent Hopper, Nathan Anderson, and Brandan Bakkala. Brent is Middle School Band Director at Lakeland Preparatory School in Lakeland, TN, which is a town of around 14,000 located just northeast of Memphis. Nathan is a band director at Greene County Tech in Paragould, a city of 30,000 in northeast Arkansas. Brandan is Band Director at Valley View High School in Jonesboro, which is the fifth largest city in the Arkansas, with a population of just over 80,000, and is also located in the northeastern part of the state.
In this episode we'll learn about the similar ways in which these directors begin thinking about recruiting for next year on the first day of school in the current year. They'll also tell us about the ways they use short videos and social media to reach out to potential band members.
Our conversation was recorded January 3, 2025. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week we continue with episode four of our six-part series looking at recruiting students for your band program as Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Joe Quinnelly, Reggie Coleman, and Daniel Ritch. Joe Quinnelly is Director of Bands at Hernando Middle School, which is part of the largest school district in Mississippi, and is located just south of Memphis. Reggie Coleman is Band Director at Rocky Fork Middle School in Smyrna, TN, which is a town of 53,000 located a half hour southeast of Nashville. Daniel Ritch is Head Band Director at Hardin County Middle School in Savannah, TN, which is a town of 7,200, two hours east of Memphis.
In this episode we'll learn about the ways that recruiting has changed at their schools since the pandemic, how they build and maintain strong relationships with counselors and administrators, and more.
Our conversation was recorded December 23, 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
Here are the band director resources on Amro Music's website that were referenced in the conversation.
This week we continue with episode three of our six-part series looking at recruiting students for your band program as Nick Averwater talks with Joe Quinnelly, Reggie Coleman, and Daniel Ritch. Joe Quinnelly is Director of Bands at Hernando Middle School, which is part of the largest school district in Mississippi, and is located just south of Memphis, Reggie Coleman is Band Director at Rocky Fork Middle School in Smyrna, TN, which is a town of 53,000 located a half hour southeast of Nashville, and Daniel Ritch is Head Band Director at Hardin County Middle School in Savannah, TN, which is a town of 7,200, two hours east of Memphis.
Our conversation was recorded December 23, 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week we continue our series taking a closer look at recruiting students for your band program, and we'll hear the second part of a conversation Nick Averwater had with Brittany Jerrell and Emma Lang. Brittany is Co-Director of Bands at Stewarts Creek Middle School in Smyrna, TN, a city of just over 50,000, 20 miles southeast of Nashville. Emma teaches at Trenton-Rosenwald Middle School in Trenton, TN, which is a town of 4,200 in West Tennessee, 75 miles northeast of Memphis.
In this episode we'll be learning more about how these educators communicate with the parents of students to let them know about the benefits of being in band. We'll also find out how they encourage students to join the band when there are so many other activities available to them. Our conversation was recorded December 11, 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
This week we're kicking off a series taking a closer look at recruiting students for your band program, a topic that seems to come up in nearly every episode of the podcast, and one that you have asked us to address even further. In the next six episodes we'll be learning a lot from eight educators in three different conversations.
So, in this episode and the next one, Nick Averwater will be talking with Brittany Jerrell and Emma Lang. Brittany is Co-Director of Bands at Stewarts Creek Middle School in Smyrna, TN, a city of just over 50,000, 15 miles southeast of Nashville. Emma teaches at Trenton-Rosenwald Middle School in Trenton, TN, which is a town of 4,200 in West Tennessee, 75 miles northeast of Memphis.
Our conversation was recorded December 11, 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Michael Parsons, Director of Instrumental and Popular Music at Briarcrest Christian School in Memphis, TN. Michael is also Director of Sound Fuzion, a pop vocal ensemble at the University of Memphis.
In this episode we'll learn more about how Michael uses pop music ensembles like Soundscape, which is a group of 16 instrumentalists and vocalists, to recruit students for Briarcrest's many music ensembles. We'll also get his perspective on what it's like to teach music at a private school vs. a public school.
Our conversation was recorded in August of 2024, just as the new school year was beginning. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
Here's Soundscape's YouTube channel
Here's One Voice's YouTube channel
This week Nick Averwater talks with Michael Parsons, Director of Instrumental and Popular Music at Briarcrest Christian School in Memphis, TN. Michael is also Director of Sound Fuzion, a pop vocal ensemble at the University of Memphis.
In this episode we'll learn about how Michael has incorporated pop music groups and commercial music studies into the music department at Briarcrest, but in a way that enhances the traditional music ensembles.
Our conversation was recorded August, 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Gillian Desmarais, who teaches Music Production and Engineering at Harmony Learning Center in Maplewood, MN. Gillian is the founder of Sound Tech Ed, a website that provides resources for music programs that allow students to learn and grow with music technology. She has also been named to the 2024 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators, and was named 2024 Teacher Of The Year by TI:ME.
In this episode Gillian will tell us more about Harmony Learning Center, the students she teaches there, and the ways in which she customizes the curriculum so that they can excel academically, and musically. She'll also tell us about how she continues to evolve and improve as a music educator.
Our conversation was recorded August 12, 2024. We've broken it up into three episodes, and this is part three.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Gillian Desmarais, who teaches Music Production and Engineering at Harmony Learning Center in Maplewood, MN. Gillian is the founder of Sound Tech Ed, a website that provides resources for music programs that allow students to learn and grow with music technology. She has also been named to the 2024 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators, and was named 2024 Teacher Of The Year by TI:ME.
In this episode Gillian will share some ideas for music educators who want to introduce music technology into their classroom, or expand upon what they are already using.
Our conversation was recorded August 12, 2024. We've broken it up into three episodes, and this is part two.
Here are the different music technology resources Gillian mentions in this episode:
FL Studio
Soundtrap
Garage Band
Launchpad
BandLab
Logic
Ableton Live
Cubase
Ableton Push
Akai MIDI Controllers
This week we continue our look at using technology in music education, as Nick Averwater talks with Gillian Desmarais, who teaches Music Production and Engineering at Harmony Learning Center in Maplewood, MN.
Gillian is the founder of Sound Tech Ed, a website that provides resources for music programs that allow students to learn and grow with music technology. She has also been named to the 2024 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators, and was named 2024 Teacher Of The Year by TI:ME.
In this episode we'll be learning about Gillian's early interest in music technology, and how that influenced the way she teaches music. We'll also find out which software and web-based programs she uses. We have links to all of these resources below.
Our conversation was recorded August 12, 2024. We've broken it up into three episodes, and this is part one.
Here are the hardware, software, and web-based resources Gillian mentions:
Launchpad
Ableton
Soundtrap
drumbit
Groove Pizza
Chrome Music Lab
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Theresa Hoover, a music educator, clinician, author, and podcast host.
In the last episode, we learned about how technology, particularly AI, can benefit music educators with things like writing lesson plans and recruitment. This week Theresa will talk about other AI resources that are useful to music educators. We'll also find out more about the concepts behind her book, Empowering Ensembles with Technology, which can be downloaded at the website for F-Flat Books.
Our conversation was recorded August 5, 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
Here are the online resources Theresa mentioned:
LyricLab
ChatGPT
Suno
Udio
ChordChord
Hookpad
Padlet
Music Snippet
This week Nick Averwater talks with Theresa Hoover, a music educator, clinician, author, and podcast host.
In this episode, we'll be learning about how technology, particularly AI, can benefit music educators with things like writing lesson plans, recruitment, and more. Theresa is the author of the book, Empowering Ensembles with Technology, which can be downloaded at the website for F-Flat Books.
Our conversation was recorded August 5, 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
Here's Theresa's website
Here's Theresa's "Pass The Baton" podcast
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Matthew Arau, Chair of the Music Education department at Lawrence University in Appleton, Wisconsin and author of the book, Upbeat! Mindset, Mindfulness and Leadership in Music Education And Beyond, published by GIA Publications. Dr. Arau is also the founder of Upbeat Global.
As the 2024-2025 school year gets underway, Dr. Arau will share his ideas for starting the year off right, including ways of defining success, setting realistic goals for yourself and your students, and more.
We've been away for a few weeks while we finished up a two-year renovation project here at Amro Music. We're thrilled with the results, and excited to serve our education partners more effectively than ever. We've posted a video on our YouTube channel that shows some of the improvements that we've made to the store, our repair shop, and our Director Services department, but there's nothing like seeing it all in person, so if you're ever in Memphis, we hope you'll take some time to stop by. We would love to see you.
This week we have the second half of Nick Averwater's conversation with David Davis. The first part of the interview was posted back in May of 2024. David is a Music Teacher at Park Spanish Immersion Elementary School in St. Louis Park, MN, a city of around 50,000 people just west of Minneapolis. In 2023, David was named to the Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of Music Educators.
In this episode David shares his thoughts about music literacy and how it's defined. He'll also tell us what the first few weeks of school is like in his band room. And we'll learn more about the importance of diversity in terms of repertoire, ensembles, and instrumentation in his school's music program.
Here's our conversation with Dr. Anita Collins that was mentioned in the interview.
This week Nick Averwater talks with David Davis, Music Teacher at Park Spanish Immersion Elementary School in St. Louis Park, MN, a city of around 50,000 people just west of Minneapolis. David was named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of Music Educators.
In this episode we'll learn about the people and experiences that inspired him to become a music educator, and we'll find out about some non-traditional approaches to keep students interested, and increase enrollment and retention in his music ensembles.
Our conversation was recorded in January 2024. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. Emily Williams Burch, Professor of Music at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, GA. Dr. Burch was also named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of Music Educators.
In this episode we'll learn about the work she has done with the American Choral Directors Association to provide advocacy resources to fellow educators.
Our conversation was recorded in November, 2023. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Emily Williams Burch, Professor of Music at Savannah College of Art and Design in Savannah, GA. Dr. Burch was also named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of Music Educators.
In this episode we'll learn about the book that she co-authored with Alex Gartner called The Business Of Choir, A Choral Leader's Guide For Organizational Growth.
Our conversation was recorded in November, 2023. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Timothy Sexton, Associate Director of Bands for Tarpon Springs Leadership Conservatory For The Arts in Tarpon Springs, Florida, a city of around 25,000 located 25 miles northwest of Tampa. Dr. Sexton has also recently been named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of Music Educators.
In this episode we'll learn about the music educators and performing opportunities that influenced him as a student musician, his individualized approach to teaching students, the benefits of regularly recording the music ensembles, and more.
Our conversation was recorded in November, 2023.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Johanna Kitchell, Orchestra Director for Riverside Intermediate and Junior High Schools in Fishers, Indiana, a northeastern suburb of Indianapolis with a population of nearly 100,000. Johanna is also a conductor with the Indianapolis Youth Orchestra, and has been named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of Music Educators.
In the last episode we learned about how being an athlete has influenced her as a music educator, and the way the music and athletics departments work well together in her schools. This week we'll find out how she approaches recruiting, what educators should look for when working with a local music store, and more. We'll also learn about the method book that she has written for intermediate string players.
Our conversation was recorded in October of 2023. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Johanna Kitchell, Orchestra Director for Riverside Intermediate and Junior High Schools in Fishers, IN, a northeastern suburb of Indianapolis with a population of around 95,000. Johanna is also a conductor with the Indianapolis Youth Orchestra, and has been named to the 2023 Yamaha 40 Under 40 List of Music Educators.
In this episode we'll learn more about her early years as a musician in upstate New York, the way being an athlete has influenced her as a music educator, and the way the music and athletics departments work well together in her schools.
Our conversation was recorded in October, 2023. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
Here's more information about Johanna's method book for intermediate string players.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Matthew Arau, Chair of the Music Education department at Lawrence University in Appleton, Wisconsin. Dr. Arau was our guest on two episodes in April 2023, but we realized that there was much more to talk about that we couldn't fit into those two episodes, so we've invited him back to share his thoughts about the state of music education after the pandemic, and why kindness, encouragement and support in the classroom is more important than ever.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. Bruce Faske, Associate Professor of Trombone at Arkansas State University in Jonesboro. In the last episode Dr. Faske shared ideas for band directors who are non-trombonists, but are teaching the instrument at the beginning and middle school levels. This week we'll have a similar conversation, but we'll focus on musicians and band directors at the high school level. Dr. Faske will also have some helpful advice for keeping a trombone in good working condition. We've broken up our conversation into two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Bruce Faske, Associate Professor of Trombone at Arkansas State University in Jonesboro. He has taught at the University since 2014, and in this episode we'll learn more about the path that brought him to Northeast Arkansas, and he'll also share some helpful tips for band directors at the middle school level who have little or no experience playing the trombone. We've broken up our conversation into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Franklin Willis, Community Impact Director for the Country Music Association Foundation. He has been with the foundation since August of 2022 after 13 years as a music educator.
In this episode we'll learn more about his early influences as an educator, the foundation's Music Teachers of Excellence Program, and some of the ways a music program can have a positive effect on a community. Our conversation was recorded in September, 2023.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with author & educator Scott Lang about the fourth version of the State Of Music Education Survey. The survey started in 2020 as a result of the pandemic, and version 5 expected later in 2023.
Version 4 is broken up into six categories. Last week Nick and Scott talked about three of those categories: instructional time, student learning, and enrollment. This week they'll be talking about budget, administrative support, and state of mind.
Our conversation is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part 2.
This week Nick Averwater talks with author & educator Scott Lang. We last spoke with Scott in December 2020 about the State of Music Education survey, which started as a result of the pandemic.
The survey is now in its fourth version, with version 5 expected later in 2023, so we thought it was time to check back in to see what has changed in the music education world, post-pandemic.
Our conversation is broken up into two episodes, and this is part 1.
This week Nick Averwater hosts a Back-to-School conversation focusing on maximizing the start of the school year.
Our three guests include Lindsey Williams from Paducah Middle School in Paducah, KY, Lauren Duncan from Lafayette Middle School and High School in Oxford, MS, and Evan Burton from Page Middle School in Franklin, TN.
Our conversation was recorded on August 2, 2023.
This week Nick Averwater hosts a Back-to-School webinar focusing on recruitment and retention. Our guests include Kaitlin Roll from Annie Camp Junior High School in Jonesboro, AR, Vanessa Cobb from Montgomery Central High School in Cunningham, TN, and Dr. Mike Yopp from Freed-Hardeman University in Henderson, TN.
The conversation was recorded August 1, 2023.
This week, Nick Averwater talks with Cody Price, Orchestra Director at Arlington Middle School in Arlington, TN, a town of around 15,000 people located just northeast of Memphis.
In this episode we'll learn more about Cody's approach to teaching, which is based on the idea of teaching life skills through music. She'll also share some tips for getting string players to properly tune their instruments and develop proper posture so they can play at the highest level possible.
Our conversation was recorded in February 2023.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Glen Schneider, an instructor at VanderCook College of Music in Chicago, and creator of musicmastery.band, a personalized online teaching resource designed for students for whom private lessons aren't an option.
Glen has over 20 years of experience as a band director, and in the last episode we learned all about musicmastery.band, but this week we're going to learn much more about his personal philosophies and techniques for promoting individual musicianship in an ensemble setting. He'll also tell us more about some of the ways Vandercook College supports the music education community.
Our conversation was recorded in January 2023. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part 2.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Glen Schneider, an instructor at VanderCook College of Music in Chicago, and creator of musicmastery.band, a personalized online teaching resource designed for students for whom private lessons aren't an option. Our conversation was recorded in January 2023. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part 1.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. James Weaver, Director of Performing Arts and Sports for the National Federation of State High School Associations, an organization based in Indianapolis that serves more than 19,000 high schools.
In this episode we'll learn about how the NFHS works to advocate for arts education at the national level, and as a former orchestra director at schools in Minnesota and South Dakota, James will share some ideas for advocacy and recruitment at the local level.
Our conversation was recorded in May, 2023. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part 2.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. James Weaver, a former band director, and Director of Performing Arts and Sports for the National Federation of State High School Associations, an organization based in Indianapolis that serves more than 19,000 high schools.
In this episode we'll learn about NFHS's leadership role in the International Coalition Performing Arts Aerosol Study at the beginning of the pandemic, and find out more about other resources that the organization makes available to music educators. Our conversation was recorded in May of 2023. It's broken up into two episodes, and this is part 1.
This week, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. Mike Yopp, Director of Bands at Middleton High School in Middleton, TN, a town of just a few hundred people in the southwestern part of the state. The high school serves Middleton and several surrounding communities as part of the Hardeman County School District. In March of 2023, a few weeks after this conversation, it was announced that, in the Fall, Dr. Yopp will be relocating to Freed-Hardeman University in Henderson, TN where he will be a professor, and Director of the newly-formed jazz band.
In this episode we'll learn more about the recruitment strategies and philosophies that have served Dr. Yopp so well in seven different programs at the high school and college level.
Our conversation was recorded January 26, 2023. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part two.
This week, Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Mike Yopp, Director of Bands at Middleton High School in Middleton, TN. Middleton is a town of just a few hundred people in the southwestern part of the state, but the high school serves several surrounding communities as part of the Hardeman County School District. In March of 2023, a few weeks after this conversation, it was announced that Dr. Yopp will be taking on a new role as a professor and Director of the jazz band at Freed-Hardeman University in Henderson, TN.
In this episode he'll tell us about the people and experiences that inspired him to become a music educator, but the majority of the conversation will focus on his strategies and philosophies about recruitment, something he has been very successful at doing at both the high school and college level.
Our conversation was recorded January 26, 2023. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. Matthew Arau, Chair of the Music Education Department at Lawrence University in Appleton, Wisconsin, and author of the book, Upbeat! Mindset, Mindfulness and Leadership in Music Education And Beyond, pubished by GIA Publications.
In the last episode we looked at the first part of the book entitled Ignite, and we encourage you to listen to that episode before listening to this one. This week we'll learn more about the rest of the book. This conversation was recorded January 24, 2023.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Matthew Arau, Chair of the Music Education Department at Lawrence University in Appleton, Wisconsin, and author of the book, Upbeat! Mindset, Mindfulness and Leadership in Music Education And Beyond, pubished by GIA Publications.
Our conversation was recorded January 24, 2023. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part 1.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Adrian Gordon, Orchestra Director at Providence Day School in Charlotte, NC, and author of the new book, Note To Self: A Music Director's Guide For Transitioning to a New School and Building a Thriving Music Program.In this episode Adrian talks about the importance of mental wellness and a balanced life for educators, building and maintaining relationships with the community outside of the school, and creating a welcoming and positive environment for the students in the school.
Our conversation was recorded December 27, 2022. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part 2.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Adrian Gordon, a longtime music educator and author of the book, Note To Self: A Music Director's Guide For Transitioning to a New School and Building a Thriving Music Program. Adrian is also Orchestra Director at Providence Day School in Charlotte, NC. In this episode he'll tell us about his early experiences that inspired him to become a music educator, why he decided to write the book, and more.
Our conversation was recorded December 27, 2022. We've broken it up into two episodes, and this is part 1.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Michael Wells, Principal at Clinton Junior High School in Clinton Arkansas, a town of around 2,600 located 70 miles north of Little Rock.
For many years Michael was a band director in several small school districts, and in this episode we'll get his perspective on how band programs can achieve excellence, no matter the size of the district. Our conversation was recorded December 20, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Michael Wells, Principal at Clinton Junior High School in Clinton Arkansas, a town of around 2,600 located 70 miles north of Little Rock.
Michael is a former band director, and in this episode we'll learn more about the similarities and differences between the two jobs, and also how music educators can build and maintain strong relationships with their school's principal. Our conversation was recorded December 20, 2022. It's broken up into two episodes, and this is part one.
This week, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Jared Cassedy, K-12 Performing Arts Coordinator for Lexington Public Schools in Lexington, Massachusetts, a town of around 35,000 people located ten miles northwest of Boston.
Jared is the 2015 recipient of the GRAMMY Award in Music Education, and in 2022 he was one of 30 teachers who received the CMA Foundation's Music Teacher of Excellence Award. He is in his 20th year as a music educator.
This week's episode picks up in the middle of a wide ranging conversation about incorporating DEI into a music curriculum, and seeing how it leads to better musical experiences for students, and better prepares them for life after high school.
If you haven't heard the previous program, which posted on January 27, 2023, we recommend you listen to that first to give proper context to this episode.
Our conversation was recorded December 13th, 2022.
This week, Nick Averwater talks with Jared Cassedy, K-12 Performing Arts Coordinator for Lexington Public Schools in Lexington, Massachusetts, a town of around 35,000 people located ten miles northwest of Boston.
Jared is in his 20th year as a music educator, and in this episode he talks about how he sees music education as an important component in creating not just good musicians or good students, but good people, and he'll explain the steps he takes with his students to realize this concept. Our conversation was recorded December 13, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Kristy White, District Fine Arts Coordinator for the Jackson-Madison County School System in West Tennessee. The district serves around 13,000 students in 22 schools.
In this episode, we'll learn more about Kristy's early inspirations that led her to music education, and we'll also get practical tips for establishing policies and procedures at the beginning of the school year that will help to set up a band program for success. Our conversation was recorded December 15, 2022.
This week, Nick Averwater talks with Chris Vitale, Director of Bands at Westfield High School in Westfield, NJ, a town of around 30,000 people located a half hour from New York City.
Chris was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators, and in this conversation he talks about the importance of creating a positive environment for students through kindness, acceptance, respect, and support. We'll also learn more about the marching band's success at Westfield, and how the program has grown since Chris joined the faculty in 2011. Our conversation was recorded in July 2022.
This week, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Wes Lowe, Director of Instrumental Arts at The King's Academy in West Palm Beach, Florida. Wes grew up as a student at the school, and joined the faculty in 2019.
Wes was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators, and directs bands at the elementary, middle school, and high school levels. In this episode, Wes talks about the popularity of jazz among the students, and their audiences. We'll also learn about the marching band program at the school, and some of the high profile venues where they've performed. Our conversation was recorded July 5th, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Wes Lowe, Director of Instrumental Arts at The King's Academy in West Palm Beach, Florida.
Wes was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators, and in this episode, he talks about what it's like to direct ensembles at the elementary, middle school, and high school levels, and how he has grown the band program at the school in the last few years. Our conversation was recorded July 5th, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part one.
This week, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Cody Newman, Director of Bands at Forney High School in Forney, TX, a town located around 20 miles east of Dallas. Cody was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators.
In this episode we'll learn about two talented musicians in the school's marching band with physical exceptionalities, and how Cody, his team, and everyone in the band worked together with these students to make sure they were successful members of the band. We'll also find out about his approach to marching band competitions, and why the most important part of competing is the time after the performance is over. Our conversation was recorded July 1, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
This week, Nick Averwater talks with Cody Newman, Director of Bands at Forney High School in Forney, TX, a town of around 15,000 located 20 miles east of Dallas. Cody was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators. In this episode he'll tell us about his early days as a music educator, and we'll also hear about the band program's unique and effective leadership program that focuses on encouragement, selflessness and positivity. Our conversation was recorded July 1, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part one.
This week, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Anastasia Homes, Director of Bands at San Elijo Middle School in San Marcos, CA, a city of 95,000 people 30 miles north of San Diego. Anastasia was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators.
In this episode we'll find out more about the school's various after school musical opportunities for musicians at all levels, and we'll also learn about how Anastasia and her students adapted to the pandemic, and how strongly the music program has bounced back in the last year. Our conversation was recorded July 8, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Anastasia Homes, Director of Bands at San Elijo Middle School in San Marcos, CA. Anastasia was recently named to the 2022 Yamaha 40 Under 40 list of music educators. In this episode we'll learn more about the people and ideas that inspired her to be a music educator, and we'll also find out about the unique mentorship program at San Elijo Middle School. Our conversation was recorded July 8, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part one.
This week, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Mikaela Littleton, Director of Bands at Mill Creek Middle School in Nolensville, TN. It's part of the Williamson County School System, which is just south of Nashville.
Mikaela is in her fourth year as a music educator, and in this conversation she shares stories about lessons and mentors during her high school years that made it clear that she was going to teach music. She also talks about some of the things she does to be a more effective educator.
This conversation was recorded July 29, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes and this is part two.
In this episode, Nick Averwater talks with Mikaela Littleton, Director of Bands at Mill Creek Middle School in Nolensville, TN. It's part of the Williamson County School System, which is just south of Nashville.
This week we'll learn more about Mikaela's early influences that encouraged her to become a music educator, some of the lessons she has learned as she begins her fourth year of teaching, and more. Our conversation was recorded July 29, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes and this is part one.
In this episode, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Benjamin Easley, Director of Bands at Nolensville High School in Nolensville, TN.
We'll learn more about Benjamin's approach to maintaining high retention rates in the band program at Nolensville, how his approach to teaching has changed as a result of Covid, and more. Our conversation was recorded July 1, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes and this is part two.
In this conversation, Benjamin mentions The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater talks with Benjamin Easley, Director of Bands at Nolensville High School in Nolensville, TN, a town of around 16,000 located a half hour south of Nashville.
Benjamin comes from a family of music educators (his father, John Easley, is featured on After Hours episodes from December 31, 2021 and January 7, 2022), so we'll learn more about his early influences, and also learn more about Nolensville's non-competitive marching band model and how it compares with competitive bands in a part of the country where marching band is such an important part of many communities. Our conversation was recorded July 1, 2022. It's broken up in to two episodes and this is part 1.
In this episode we'll be listening to a webinar hosted by Amro Music on August 6, 2022 looking at how Covid has affected the way students learn, and how educators teach.
We were joined by Brittany Jerrell from Stewarts Creek Middle School in Smyrna, Tennessee, Kim Webb from Greene County Tech High School in Paragould, Arkansas, and Ben McLemore from Lewisburg Middle School in Hernando, Mississippi. The discussion was moderated by Nick Averwater.
In this episode, Nick Averwater talks with Mickey Smith Jr., the 2020 recipient of the Grammy Music Educator Award.
He is originally from Mossville, LA, a small town in the southwest corner of the state, and currently teaches at The Greene School in West Palm Beach, FL. He also travels extensively as a guest educator and motivational speaker.
This conversation was recorded June 30, 2022.
In this episode we'll listen to the second half of a panel discussion from Amro Music's Young Directors Bootcamp, which is a chance for band directors who are just starting out to hear from educators who are a few years into their careers.
The discussion features Reece Gardner from Arlington Middle School in Arlington, TN, Emma Lang from Trenton Rosenwald Middle School and Peabody High School in Trenton, TN, Nathan Anderson from Green County Tech Middle School in Paragould, Arkansas, and Carlos Serna from Paragould Junior High, and High School, also in Paragould, Arkansas. Nick Averwater is moderator for the discussion.
And a quick production note, we did have some questions from the audience, but they were off-mic, so we've edited out most of the actual questions from this recording, but Nick repeats them for the podcast audience and those who were joining us live on Zoom.
This conversation was recorded August 6, 2022.
In this episode we'll listen to the first half of a panel discussion from Amro Music's Young Director's Bootcamp, which is a chance for band directors who are just starting out to hear from educators who are a few years into their careers. The participants include:
Reese Gardner from Arlington Middle School in Arlington, TN
Emma Lang from Trenton Rosenwald Middle School and Peabody High School in Trenton, TN
Nathan Anderson from Greene County Tech Middle School in Paragould, Arkansas, and
Carlos Serna from Paragould Junior High, and High School in Paragould, Arkansas.
Nick Averwater was moderator of the discussion, which was recorded August 6, 2022.
In this episode, Nick Averwater talks with Tyler Swick, a celebrated and award-winning music educator from Robert and Sandy Ellis Elementary School in Las Vegas, whose YouTube channel, Swick's Classroom, has over 14,000 subscribers, and has been visited more than 3.5 million times.
We thought Tyler's enthusiasm for music education, and his innovative ideas, would be just right as a new school year is about to begin.
This conversation was recorded June 27, 2022.
Swick's Classroom YouTube Channel
The LG phone commercial that Tyler mentioned in the interview
In this episode Nick Averwater talks with Emily Kelley, Director of Bands at Sylvania Southview High School in Sylvania, OH, and author of the new book Inclusion in Band and Orchestra, which is part of the Maximizing Student Performance series by the Kjos Music Company. Our conversation was recorded July 20, 2022.
This week Joel Hurd, one of the producers on the podcast, talks with composer and educator Brady Massey, who spent more than 20 years as a band director in three different school districts in Arkansas (Hoxie, Trumann, and Pocahontas), and is currently Director of Bands at Williams Baptist University in Walnut Ridge, Arkansas.
Joel talked with Brady just after he had given a talk at Amro University, which is a 2-day event in Memphis for college students and new band directors. Brady's talk was entitled, "Starting The Year On Your Left Foot."
Our conversation was recorded April 8, 2022.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Hunter Durham, Director of Bands in the Rivercrest School District in Wilson, Arkansas, a small town near the Mississippi River around 30 miles north of Memphis. He is originally from nearby Paragould, Arkansas.
Hunter has written a guide to sound reinforcement for marching bands, and in this episode he'll be sharing his ideas on mic techniques, how to make wise purchasing decisions, and more. This conversation was recorded April 9, 2022.
In the Interview, Hunter references the following:
Behringer X32 Digital Mixer
Shure SM137 Microphone
Drew Brashler's YouTube Channel
Lonestar Percussion's Marimba Mic Shootout
This week Joel Hurd, one of co-producers of the podcast, talks with Dr. Jennifer Hawkinson, Associate Professor of Music Education at the University of Central Arkansas.
Before joining UCA, Dr. Hawkinson spent 18 years in South Dakota as a music educator in several school districts, including one of the largest schools in the state, Sioux Falls Washington High School.
She joined us at Amro Music as part of Amro University, a two-day gathering of college students and new music educators, where she gave a talk entitled Increasing Retention In Your Music Program. This conversation was recorded April 9, 2022
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater talks with Jason Deem, Director of Bands at Union City High School in Union City, Tennessee, a town of just over 10,000 people in the northwest corner of the state.
Jason joined the Union City schools in 2006, and has been Director of Bands for five years. In this conversation, we'll learn about his early influences, how he carries on the tradition of success in the band program, and the importance of good communication with students, administration and the community.
This conversation was recorded April 29, 2022.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Randy Dale, Assistant Professor of Music, Associate Director of Bands, and Director of Athletic Bands at the University of Mississippi, to get some ideas about recruiting new students for your band program. Our conversation was recorded April 8, 2022 in downtown Memphis, where Randy was giving a presentation for Amro University.
In this episode, Nick Averwater continues his with Dr. Matt Rowan, Director of Bands for the Pearl School District in Pearl, Mississippi, the 13th largest city in the state, located just east of Jackson.
In this conversation, Dr. Rowan shares more ideas about how to help students who want to pursue a career in music education. The conversation was recorded March 2, 2022, and is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part 2.
In this episode, Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Matt Rowan, Director of Bands for the Pearl School District in Pearl, Mississippi, a city of around 27,000 just east of Jackson.
In this conversation, Dr. Rowan talks about how he knew early that he wanted to pursue a career in music education, in large part because of the many educators along the way who encouraged him. We'll also learn about ways he now serves as a mentor for leaders in his band program who want to go on to teach music. The conversation was recorded March 2, 2022, and is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part 1.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Todd Shipley, Director of Arts Education for the Tennessee Department of Education.
In this episode, they'll discuss the importance developing a positive relationship with your local school board, proactive vs. reactive advocacy, and more. Our conversation was recorded February 14, 2022, and is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Todd Shipley, Director of Arts Education for the Tennessee Department of Education. Todd had eight years of experience as a school band director before moving into his current role with the state in 2018.
In this episode, we'll learn more about what it means to be the leading advocate for arts education in a state of nearly seven million people, and we'll learn about some practical ideas for advocacy at the local level. Our conversation was recorded February 14, 2022, and is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Angela Ammerman, author of the new book, The Music Teacher's Guide to Engaging English Language Learners, which is published by G-I-A Publications.
Since 2006, Dr. Ammerman has been a music educator for students of all ages...from Kindergarten to the University level. She has earned music education degrees from The University of Cincinatti, Boston University, and George Mason University, and is currently a busy music education consultant, guest conductor, clinician, and adjunct professor based in Virginia. Our conversation was recorded January 31, 2022.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater talks with Justin Harvison, Director of Bands at Germantown High School in Madison, Mississippi.
Justin began his career in 2008 at Madison Central High School, where he was lead director of the 9th grade band at Rosa Scott 9th grade school. He then went on to become the founding director of the Germantown High School band program in 2011
In this conversation, Justin talks about his early influences that led to the choice to be a music educator, the keys to the success that the band program at Germantown has enjoyed, and more.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Alexis Yatuzis-Derryberry, General Music Teacher at Stewarts Creek High School in Smyrna, Tennessee.
Before moving to Stewarts Creek in 2021, Alexis spent nearly 20 years teaching general music and choir at the elementary and middle school levels. She is also President of the TMEA, The Tennessee Music Education Association, and an adjunct Music Education Instructor at Middle Tennessee State University.
In this episode, Alexis shares ideas that will help to keep students interested in music throughout Elementary School, Middle School, and High School, and how Tennessee's strong musical traditions create unique opportunities for students during their school years, and beyond. She'll also talk about the challenges for women in leadership positions in music education.
Our conversation was recorded February 9, 2022, and is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Alexis Yatuzis-Derryberry, General Music Teacher at Stewarts Creek High School in Smyrna, Tennessee. Before moving to Stewarts Creek in 2021, Alexis spent nearly 20 years teaching general music and choir at the elementary and middle school levels. She is also President of the Tennessee Music Education Association, and an adjunct Music Education Instructor at Middle Tennessee State University. We'll learn more about the path that led her to general music, why she thinks it's such an important part of a student's education, and more.
Our conversation was recorded February 9, 2022, and is broken up in to two episodes. This is part one.
In this conversation, Alexis mentions a couple of publications that you can link to here:
First Steps In Music
World Music Drumming
This week Nick Averwater talks with Shane Deuel, Regional Sales Director for Eastman Music Company, and host of the podcast Ed Rep Radio. Shane gives us an insider's view of how supply chain issues are affecting instrument manufacturers. We'll also learn about the different brands in the Eastman family, and find out about some of the company's more popular instruments.
Our conversation was recorded February 7, 2022.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater talks with Chuck Reynolds, Director of Bands at Madison Central High School in Madison, MS, a city of around 25,000 located just north of Jackson. Chuck talks about working in a program with seven band directors in what was once the largest high school in the state, and we'll learn more about the process that takes place when it's time to add a new member to the team of music educators. He'll also talk about how section leaders are chosen in the band program, and more.
This conversation was recorded January 27, 2022.
Producer's Note: On Thursday, February 3, 2022 Memphis was hit with a pretty serious ice storm that caused power outages for nearly 140,000 homes and businesses. The studio where After Hours is produced was left without power for more than four days, so we were unable to upload an episode on Friday the 4th. We apologize for the missed week.
In this episode, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with David Aydelott, Band Director at Siegel High School in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, a city of around 150,000 people which is also the home of Middle Tennessee State University.
From 1992 to 2019, David was Director of Bands at four different schools in Tennessee. Then in 2019 he began serving in an administrative role as Director of Fine Arts for Williamson County Schools, a district just south of Nashville. He returned to the classroom as Director of Bands at Siegel High School in July 2021.
Our conversation is broken up in to two episodes and this is part 2.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater talks with David Aydelott, Director of Bands at Siegel High School in Murfreesboro, Tennessee, the sixth largest city in the state with a population of just over 150,000, located 35 miles southeast of Nashville.
David talks about the lessons he learned as a school administrator that have made him a more effective band director, the importance of collaboration between different artistic disciplines within a school, and more. Our conversation is broken up in to two episodes and this is part 1.
In this episode, Nick Averwater talks with Jeremy Tate from Gibson County High School in Dyer, Tennessee. We'll learn about the long journey to performing in the 2022 Tournament of Roses Parade for the Gibson County Mass Band, which is made up of musicians from five high schools in this rural part of northwest Tennessee.
You can see the band performing at the Tournament of Roses Parade here.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Kristin Leitterman, Assistant Professor of Oboe at Arkansas State University in Jonesboro.
They'll be talking about ways to allow a young oboist to get the most out of their instrument, advice for music educators who may have oboists in their program, and the importance of always playing with quality reeds.
Dr. Leitterman mentions an oboe fingering chart at 23:30. Here's a link to it.
Our conversation was recorded January 3, 2022.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with John Easley, who has been an Educational Representative for Amro Music for the last five years, but was a band director in several school districts in northwest Tennessee, including over three decades in Union City, a town of around 11,000 people.
They'll be talking about creative ways of building support for a band program in a small, rural community, the challenges that face young band directors, and more.
Our conversation was recorded September 24, 2021 and is broken up in to two episodes. This is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with John Easley, who is now an Educational Representative for Amro Music, but for over three decades was a band director in several school districts in northwest Tennessee. Most of his time as a music educator was spent in Union City, a town of around 11,000 people.
They'll be talking about John's early days as a band director, the value of having patience when growing a band program, and more.
Our conversation was recorded September 24, 2021 and is broken up in to two episodes. This is part one.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Joe Lamond, President and CEO of NAMM, The National Association of Music Merchants.
They'll be talking about the technological advances that have happened as a result of the pandemic, the work NAMM does at the national level to strengthen music programs at the local level, and more.
The conversation was recorded November 15, 2021 and is broken up in to two episodes. This is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Joe Lamond, President and CEO of NAMM.
They'll be talking about the history of the organization, how the approach of the music education system in the United States differs from other countries, and how the music products industry plays an important role in advocating for music education.
The conversation was recorded November 15, 2021 and is broken up in to two episodes. This is part one.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with John Mlynczak, Vice President of Music Education and Technology at Hal Leonard.
In this episode they'll be talking about advocating for music education, defining success for young musicians, and more.
The conversation was recorded November 23, 2021 and is broken up in to two episodes. This is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with John Mlynczak, Vice President of Music Education and Technology at Hal Leonard.
They'll be talking about how John's years as a middle school music teacher have influenced the work he does today, and how the lessons learned in the last 18 months have created some great opportunities for music educators.
The conversation was recorded November 23, 2021 and is broken up in to two episodes. This is part one.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Charles Page, Band Director at Valley View High School in northeastern Arkansas. Prior to his current position he was Band Director in the Buffalo Island School District, which is a much smaller district in the same part of the state.
In this conversation, Dr. Page talks about the musical challenges associated with directing a small band with just a few musicians, and how that can lead to some creative solutions and outstanding musical experiences for the students. Our conversation was recorded in late summer 2021, just before the new school year began.
This week Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Bob Morrison, CEO and Founder of Quadrant Research, the nation's leading arts education research and market intelligence organization. Bob is also a member of his regional school board in New Jersey. In this episode they'll be talking about the role of music and the arts in social emotional learning. Bob will also share his thoughts about lessons that have been learned during the pandemic, and how to apply those lessons as the virus continues to be a presence in our schools. Our conversation is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Bob Morrison, CEO and Founder of Quadrant Research, the nation's leading arts education research and market intelligence organization. In this episode they'll be talking about the Arts Education Data Project, which provides a data-driven approach to understanding the condition of arts education in the United States. You can learn more about it at artseddata.org. Our conversation is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part one
In this episode, Nick Averwater talks with Sharon Bryant, Senior Project Manager for NAMM. They'll be talking about NAMM's Best Communities for Music Education Survey, which celebrates the best music education programs in the country. Applications are being accepted through the end of January 2022, and you can learn more about it at nammfoundation.org/bcme.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater continues his conversation about student leadership with Dr. Craig Aarhus, Associate Director of Bands at Mississippi State University in Starkville. This conversation was recorded September 28th, 2021, and is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
In this conversation Dr. Aarhus mentions the book, The System by Gary Smith.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Craig Aarhus, Associate Director of Bands at Mississippi State University. Identifying and empowering student leaders has been a big part of the band program's success, and we'll learn more about that, as well as find out more about some of Dr. Aarhus' early influences as a band director. Our conversation is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part one.
This week Nick Averwater talks about Hosting a Fall Beginner Band Concert with Jocelyn Hembruch and Tyler Hart, both from Desoto Central Middle School in Southaven, MS, and Trey Reely, who retired in 2019 after 23 years as middle school and high school Band Director in Paragould, AR, and 11 years at Riverview High School in Searcy, AR.
This Conversation was recorded October 12, 2021.
This week Nick Averwater talks with Ryan Richman, Vice President at Eastman Music Company. They'll be talking about the history of the company as it approaches its 30th year, some of its latest products and innovations, and more.
Eastman's brands include:
Eastman Strings
Eastman Winds
Eastman Guitars
Wm. S. Haynes Co.
S.E. Shires
Backun Musical Services
Bourgeois Guitars
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Randall Standridge, a former public school band director, and a very busy and widely-published composer, running his own production company, Randall Standridge Music. This week, we'll learn more about the business, and creative, aspects of composing and publishing. We'll also get Randall's thoughts about the importance of inclusivity in the band room. Our conversation is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater talks with Randall Standridge. Randall is best-known as a highly respected composer and arranger, but he was also a band director for many years. We'll learn about his early career working in a rural public school district, his techniques for teaching students how to practice the right way, and more. Our conversation is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part one.
In this conversation Randall mentions the following books:
How To Make First Chair by C.L. Roberts
One Band That Took a Chance by Brian H. Norcross
In this episode, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Elva Kaye Lance, The Director of Bands at Mississippi State University in Starkville. We'll learn more about developing student leaders in the 400-member marching band, how the pandemic has affected procedures within the band program, and more. The conversation was recorded on May 24, 2021. It's broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
In this episode, Nick Averwater talks with Elva Kaye Lance, The Director of Bands at Mississippi State University in Starkville. This is Ms. Lance's 30th year at Mississippi State, and her 19th year as Director of Bands. Under her leadership, the bands have expanded to include four concert bands, a jazz band, two basketball pep bands, and a marching band. In this episode Elva Kaye talks about her early years as a band director, the educators and family members who influenced and encouraged her, and the importance of starting the new school year on the right foot. Our conversation is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part one.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater talks with Grant Harbison at the Arkansas Bandmasters Association Convention in Little Rock. Grant is the Director of Bands for Jonesboro, Arkansas Public Schools.
In this conversation, Grant talks about how his band program is moving forward as the pandemic affects a second marching band season, the importance of gratitude and positivity, and how therapy has helped him to become a more effective band director.
This conversation was recorded July 29, 2021.
On August 7th, 2021, Amro Music hosted its first-ever Young Directors Bootcamp. It was a chance for new educators to get practical advice from a panel of four highly successful band directors. Amro Music's Nick Averwater hosted the event, and our panel included:
Joseph Quinnelly from Hernando Middle School and High School in Hernando MS,
Kaitlyn Roll from Annie Camp Junior High in Jonesboro, AR,
Jocelyn Hembruch from Desoto Central Middle School and High School in Southaven, MS,
Ben Hembruch from Horn Lake Middle School in Horn Lake, MS.
On our last episode of After Hours, we heard the first half of the bootcamp, and in this episode we'll hear the second half. In addition to a live audience, we also had band directors joining us via Zoom, and we'll pick up the conversation with a question from one of our remote viewers.
On August 7th, 2021, Amro Music hosted its first-ever Young Director's Bootcamp. It was a chance for new educators to get practical advice from a panel of four highly successful band directors in the Mid-South region. The goal for the Young Director's Bootcamp was to help everyone feel more confident and equipped for the first week of school, and beyond. The topics we discussed included:
- What should you cover during the first week of band class?
- What should you avoid doing during the first week of school?
- What do you do with returning band students after a year of virtual band?
- How do you select repertoire for your concert band?
- How do you know which instrument to place a beginning band student on?
- and much more...
Our panel included:
- Joe Quinnelly - Hernando Middle School and Hernando High School in Hernando, MS
- Kaitlin Roll - Annie Camp Junior High in Jonesboro, AR
- Jocelyn Hembruch -Desoto Central Middle School and Desoto Central High School in Southaven, MS
- Ben Hembruch - Horn Lake Middle School in Horn Lake, MS
In this episode we kick off Season 3 of the After Hours podcast as Nick Averwater and his three guests talk about The Art of the First Week. Joining Nick will be Lindsey Mears from Smyrna Middle School in Smyrna, TN, Brittany Jerrell from Stewarts Creek Middle School, which is also in Smyrna, and Jennifer Church from Greenbrier High School in Greenbrier, Arkansas.
Nick Averwater checks in with Sheryl Laukat from Cannonball Musical Instruments at Summer NAMM in Nashville. Cannonball is celebrating its 25th anniversary, and we'll learn a bit about the company's history, and find out about some of the techniques they use that make their instruments unique.
Nick Averwater checks in with Lisa Steele-MacDonald, Director of Vertical Marketing for Yamaha. Lisa will have the latest information about Esser Funds, and what is still available to music programs, and she'll also share some other resources available to band directors from Yamaha. You can find out more about Yamaha's offerings to band directors at www.yamahaeducatorsuite.com.
Nick Averwater checks in with David Jahnke from Hal Leonard to learn more about Looking Forward To 2020-2021, Hal Leonard's Virtual Music Education Summit, which happens July 29-30, 2021. They talked on July 16th at the Summer NAMM Show in Nashville.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Randy Box, the Director of Bands at West Memphis High School in West Memphis, Arkansas. Randy talks about the differences, and similarities, between being a band director in an affluent school district versus one with it's share of economic challenges. He also talks about what advice he would give himself if he could go back to 1978 when he started his career in rural Pocahontas, Arkansas. Our conversation with Randy is broken up in to two episodes, and this is part two.
Randy Box has taught in four school districts in his 42-year career, most recently at West Memphis High School in Arkansas. In this first part of our conversation he talks about his early influences, taking his band to the Macy's Thanksgiving Day Parade twice, and the importance of the acronym T-S-B-N-A-F-W-A-E-I-N.
Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. Sarah Labovitz, the Associate Director of Bands & Coordinator of Music Education at Arkansas State University. In this episode Dr. Labovitz shares some ideas about setting up a grading and assessment structure for band students. This is the second of two episodes with Dr. Labovitz.
In this episode of the After Hours Director Spotlight, Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Sarah Labovitz, the Associate Director of Bands and Coordinator of Music Education at Arkansas State University in Jonesboro. In this first of two episodes with Dr. Labovitz, she talks about the advice she gives to new band directors, ways to avoid burnout, and how to embrace all of the necessary tasks involved with being a music educator that may not feel very creative or artistic.
Neuroscience and psychology researchers have done extensive studies over the last 20 years to understand how the brain processes music and why music learning seems to be such a cognitively unique activity. Musically trained children have better language and communication skills, can focus for longer and are more likely to stick with difficult problems until they solve them, they are able to control their own emotional responses and understand emotional responses of others and they have significantly better working and long-term memory systems. These enhancements then support higher levels of overall academic achievement, motivation, stress management, self-regulation and awareness. Most notably, music learning has been found to improve neural communication issues associated with autism, ADHD, dyslexia and reading and language learning delays. The research is now starting to reveal why music learning is so effective at enhance brain function. In this week's episode, Nick sits down with Dr. Anita Collins for a conversation on this exciting and impactful research.
Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Dr. Albert Nguyen, Director of Bands at the University of Memphis. In this episode Dr. Nguyen talks about making the band room a welcoming, safe place for all students. He also looks back at some things he might have done differently in his early days as a band director.
In this episode, Nick Averwater talks with Dr. Albert Nguyen, Director of Bands at the University of Memphis. Dr. Nguyen discusses his early interest in music growing up in rural Arkansas, the influence his parents had on him, creating opportunities through student leadership, and more. This conversation is split in to two episodes, and this is part 1.
In this episode, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Kim Webb, Director of Bands at Greene County Tech High School in Paragould, Arkansas. The band program in the school district has 450 students participating in seven different bands.
We've broken up our conversation with Kim in to two episodes, and in this second one, she talks about how she and her students dealt with an unexpected crisis in 2019. Kim also shares what advice she would give to aspiring band directors just graduating from college.
In this episode, Nick Averwater talks with Kim Webb, Director of Bands at Greene County Tech High School in Paragould, Arkansas. The band program in the school district has 450 students participating in seven different bands.
We've broken up our conversation with Kim in to two episodes, and in this first one, she talks about how she became interested in pursuing music education as a career, and how she attempts to strike a healthy balance between family life and band director life.
In this episode, Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Barry Trobaugh, Director of Bands at Munford High School in West Tennessee. They discuss the value of staying at the same school for many years, how to maintain good relationships with the school administration, and much more. The wide-ranging conversation wouldn't fit in to just one episode, and it was all so interesting that we didn't want to edit out anything. So we broke it up in to two episodes, and this is part 2.
In this week's episode, Nick Averwater talks with Barry Trobaugh, Director of Bands at Munford High School in West Tennessee. Barry and Nick discuss how to position your music program to be an integral part of your local community, establishing a strong relationship with your staff and assistant directors, and setting clear expectations that lead to student growth. This conversation is presented in two episodes, and this is part 1.
Nick Averwater and his three guests talk about how music educators can get the most out of their relationship with their local music stores.
Guests Include:
Maureen Ross, Meyer Music, Grand Rapids, MI
Phil Hodapp, Beacock Music, Vancouver, WA
Tim Dawson, Paige's Music, Indianapolis, IN
Nick Averwater talks with Monty and Valerie Hill, Band Directors in the Marion, Arkansas School District. Valerie and Monty have taught music, and directed bands at every age level, from elementary school to college, in both Arkansas and New Mexico. They joined the school district in Marion in April, 2020.
Nick Averwater and his guests talk about ways to build and maintain productive relationships with your school's principal, superintendent, and school board. Guests include:
Kris Perkins, Principal at Lewisburg High School in Olive Branch, MS
Bob Morrison, longtime music education advocate and board member in the Watchung Hills (New Jersey) Regional School District
Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Lafe Cook, Director of Bands at Dobyns-Bennett High School in Kingsport, TN. Lafe is celebrating his 20th year at the school, and oversees the 375-member band program at Dobyns-Bennett. This conversation is presented in two episodes, and this is part 2.
Nick Averwater and his three guests from Yamaha discuss accessing Covid relief funding for your school music program.
Guests include:
Heather Mansell, Marketing Manager for Education
Dave Gerhart, Assistant Marketing Manager for Education
Marcia Neel, Senior Director of Education
Nick Averwater talks with Lafe Cook, Director of Bands at Dobyns-Bennett High School in Kingsport, TN. Lafe is celebrating his 20th year at the school, and oversees the 375-member band program at Dobyns-Bennett. This conversation will cover two episodes, and this is part 1.
In this episode we host ten educators to discuss ten different recruiting ideas for the upcoming spring and summer. Our guests, in order, include:
Lisa Alford, West Junior High School, West Memphis Arkansas
Alex White, Siegel High School, Murfreesboro, Tennessee
Emily Brown, South Gibson Middle School, Medina, Tennessee
Wendy Higdon, Creekside Middle School, Carmel, Indiana
Brittany Jerrell, Stewarts Creek Middle School, Smyrna, Tennessee
Grant Harbison, Jonesboro High School, Jonesboro, Arkansas
Matt Pickering, Lewisburg Middle School, Olive Branch, Mississippi
Douglas Schaffer, Mark Twain High School, Center, Missouri
David Stevens, Adamsville High School, Adamsville, TN
Michael Sanchez, Sky Ridge Middle School, Camas, WA
Nick Averwater continues his conversation with Richie Williams, Director of Bands at Paragould High School in Paragould, Arkansas. In this episode, Richie talks about the challenges that success can bring to a music program, and shares some of the things he would have done differently in his early days as a band director. Our chat with Richie is presented in two episodes. This is Part 2.
Nick Averwater talks with Richie Williams, Director of Bands at Paragould High School in Paragould, Arkansas. In his 13 years there, the music program has gained a reputation as one of the best in the state. Our chat with Richie is presented in two episodes. This is Part 1.
Nick Averwater talks with Dan Emery, Founder and CEO of the NYC Guitar School. They talk about techniques for more effective practicing.
Nick Averwater and his three guests discuss ways to plan for a successful recruiting season for band, orchestra, and choir.
Guests include:
Marcia Neel - Yamaha's Senior Director of Education
Barry Trobaugh - Director of Bands, Munford High School, Munford, TN
Tyler Swick - Elementary Music Educator, Las Vegas, NV
Nick Averwater talks with Hope and Greg Bruner, band directors in the Highland School District in northeastern Arkansas. They talk about what it's like maintaining a successful band program in a small, rural community, balancing family time and work time, and techniques for recruiting and retaining new students.
Nick Averwater talks about ways to improve student morale and engagement with three guests:
Stephen Price, South Gibson County High School, Medina, TN
Kaitlin Roll, Annie Camp Jr. High School, Jonesboro, AR
Jacob Campos, Franklin High School, Franklin, TN
Nick Averwater talks with author, speaker, clinician, consultant and renowned educator, Dr. Tim Lautzenheiser. Dr. Tim shares his thoughts on the impact of COVID-19 on music education, what challenges are on the horizon, and what steps we can take to make 2021 our best year yet.
Nick Averwater talks with music educator Tyler Swick and Yamaha's Lisa Steele-McDonald about the unique partnership between Yamaha and Disney/Pixar to grow music awareness and participation as the film Soul is released on Disney Plus. Recorded January 5, 2021.
Nick Averwater talks with Scott Lang, founder of Be Part of the Music, about the "State of Music Education" survey that was recently completed by 2,100 music educators across the country. They discuss the survey's findings, what it means for music education, and where we go from here. Recorded December 8, 2020.
Nick Averwater and Dr. Brandon Robinson, Director of Bands at Mississippi University for Women, talk about developing student leaders in your music program. Recorded November 17, 2020.
Marcia Neel and George Quinlan, Jr. join Nick Averwater to discuss the many benefits of hosting a beginner concert in the first semester of learning to play. We will discuss turnkey materials to make it your easiest (and most fun!) concert of the year, plus great resources if you are teaching online this semester.
In this episode of "After Hours: Conversations for Music Educators", author and educator Scott Lang joins Nick Averwater to discuss ways to stay positive, and seize new opportunities in the challenging age of Covid 19. Recorded October 13, 2020.
In this episode of "After Hours: Conversations for Music Educators", author Scott Rush joins Nick Averwater to discuss the online learning resources available through the "Habits of a Successful Musician" book series. Recorded August 18, 2020.
On this week's After Hours podcast, Nick Averwater talks with a panel of middle school directors who share how they will lay out their classroom and rehearsal spaces, manage instrument storage and classroom logistics, instrument hygiene and more for the upcoming school year during COVID-19.
Guests include:
Terri Green (Olive Branch Middle School, Mississippi)
Emily Brown (South Gibson County, Tennessee)
Andrew Lynn (Stewarts Creek Middle School, Tennessee)
Brittany Jerrell (Stewarts Creek Middle School, Tennessee)
In this week's conversations, Nick Averwater talks with Jeremy Payne, Brand Director for The Music People. Jeremy shared with us technology solutions for teaching, streaming and online learning, including USB hubs, microphones, classroom PA systems, and more.
Nick Averwater and his guests discuss how to assess your music program's needs for the coming school year.
Panelists include:
Francie Beard - Douglass High School (Memphis, TN)
David Stevens - Adamsville High School (Adamsville, TN)
Greg Bruner - Highland High School (Highland, AR)
Nick Averwater talks with Rebecca Lowry from Mill Creek Middle School in Nolensville, TN about her successful practice of placing beginning band students based on facial features and characteristics. Recorded August 3, 2020.
Nick Averwater and his guests shared ideas and activities to keep students learning and engaged with music that can take place before the instrument rental meeting. Recorded July 28, 2020.
Panelists include:
Grant Harbison - (Jonesboro, Arkansas)
Chris Watson - (Paducah, Kentucky)
Adonias Finch - (Memphis, Tennessee)
Rebecca Lowry - (Nolensville, Tennessee)
On Tuesday, July 21, 2020, we had our After Hours conversation with Bob Morrison, CEO of Quadrant Research and the founder of Music for All. Bob shares with us this thoughts on being both realistic in facing the challenges brought on by COVID-19 and the importance of remaining both proactive and positive throughout
Amro Music's Nick Averwater and his guests discuss ideas for a successful marching band camp.
Panelists include:
Orien Landis - American Fork H.S. (Utah)
Darin Graber - Bingham H.S. (Utah)
Stephen Aylward - Miamisburg H.S. (Ohio)
Len Killough - Hernando H.S. (Mississippi)
Amro Music's Nick Averwater talks with Steve Smith, Product Manager for Essential Elements Interactive. In 2012, Steve joined the team at Hal Leonard as an Instrumental Editor. At Hal Leonard, he works with the production of instrumental music and educational materials for band and strings. Steve brings his recent teaching experience to Hal Leonard and is using this in the development of the new Essential Elements Interactive website, which is designed to assist teachers and students at the beginning instrumental level.
Amro Music's Nick Averwater talks with Noteflight Managing Director John Mlynczak about moving your music education curriculum and resources online.
Recorded June 23, 2020.
Amro Music's Nick Averwater and Marcia Neel, president of Music Education Consultants, Inc., discuss recruiting and retention ideas for band directors, orchestra teachers, and choir directors for the 2020-2021 academic school year.
Recorded June 9, 2020
Amro Music's Nick Averwater and his guests explore resources available to music educators, and introduce the collaborative document "Considerations for a Safe Return to the Instrumental Music Classroom."
Panelists include:
Barry Trobaugh, Director of Bands, Munford (TN) High School
Richie Williams, Director of Bands, Paragould (AR) High School
Recorded June 2, 2020
Amro Music's Nick Averwater and Barry Trobaugh, Director of Bands at Munford (TN) High School, talk about some of the CDC guidelines issued for schools, and what they might mean for music education.
Recorded May 26, 2020
Amro Music's Nick Averwater and his guests talk about plans for the upcoming marching band season.
Panelists include:
Ollie Liddell - Memphis Central (TN) High School
Kim Hallmark Pickering - Lewisburg (MS) High School
David Aydelott - Williamson County (TN) School District
Richie Williams - Paragould (AR) High School
Recorded May 12, 2020
Amro Music's Nick Averwater and his guests discuss what music advocacy is, easy ways that anyone can advocate for music education, and what our federal legislation says about music in our schools.
Panelists include:
Nola Jones - Conn-Selmer Division of Education
Todd Shipley - TN Department of Education
LaDonna Gibson - Bald Knob, AR School Board
Recorded May 5, 2020
Amro Music's Nick Averwater and his guests share ideas and best practices for increasing student retention in band, orchestra, and music programs.
Panelists include:
Kim Webb - Greene County Tech Middle and High School, Paragould, AR
Steven Page - Heath Middle School, Paducah, KY
Gary Frite - Munford Middle and High School, Munford, TN
Recorded April 28, 2020
Amro Music's Nick Averwater and his guests discuss ideas, content, and methods for recruiting beginners to their program.
Panelists include:
Andrew Lynn - Stewarts Creek Middle School, Smyrna, TN
Hunter Durham - Rivercrest Middle School, Wilson, AR
Tyler Hart - Desoto Central Middle School, Southaven, MS
Recorded April 21, 2020
Amro Music's Nick Averwater and his guests discuss ways to increase student engagement, and explore the challenges of teaching both off and online.
Panelists include:
Mark Kinzer, Fairview High School, Fairview, TN
Jamie Young, Lake Cormorant High School, Lake Cormorant, MS
Marcy Wells, Greenbrier Junior High School, Greenbrier, AR
Lindsey Williams, Paducah Middle School, Paducah, KY
Recorded April 14, 2020