from the van: Recent Episodes
marty benson
from the van - a podcast and video blog dedicated to examining the relationships people have with residential vehicles. Whether it's full-time vanlifers, weekenders, or trailer nomads, I'm curious about the different permutations of the how and why. Plus, I also like drinking beer and talking about the conundrum of life.
Miles started Light Harvest Solar 9 years ago buying solar panels in bulk and selling them a la carte. Since then, he's turned the company into a sophisticated supplier of both component-based and self-contained off-grid solar electric systems. I sat down with him in August as he moved into a new warehouse to talk about the direction of the company and his vision for off-grid electric in the future.
Charlie is a super activist and the Oregon Policy Manager for the Surfrider Foundation. While working at the aquarium, he moved onto an anchored boat right outside of Rogue Brewing in Newport, OR. I sat down to talk with him about the nexus between sustainability and minimal living, coastal advocacy, the similarities between territorialism in surfing and vanlife, and of course... pooping in a bucket.
I met Ed last summer on my way up the Oregon coast. We met up to caravan and record a podcast a few days later. It's really awesome to have a conversation with someone who's unapologetically confident about their path. I hope you have a good time with this conversation I thoroughly enjoyed.
Wow, Jacey Travels! We sat down in June, and Jacey made me feel like I needed to ramp it up. At 24, she had already traveled the globe on a shoestring budget, authored a book, and started traveling North America by van.
Jarrod has been a good friend for 3 years, and he's been on my podcast too many times. But dude is fun to talk to, and he is constantly switching up his momentum for another new adventure. He's been on the podcast 4 times in the last two years, but he's also had 4 homes in that time frame. For a lot of van lifers, moving around geographically is enough. But Jarrod is constantly reframing what it means to travel and sit still. Is it all a gimmick to keep his YouTube viable? Well, I'm remiss that I didn't ask him that question directly, so I figured it was best to put him on blast in this caption to console my interviewer regret. Now, have fun listening to us be dicks to each other.
Christian recently returned to Encinitas after moving to Bend, OR to build out his second camper van. Not everything went exactly as planned, but his new van is rad and his photography gigs are really starting to take off. I really look up to Christian for his positive attitude and ambition. Definitely go check out his instagram to see his epic photographs.
@henkel.photography
I met Erin & Joe at Tiny Fest this spring, and I'd been trying to get them on the podcast for a month. We finally connected right next to the Half Moon Bay Yacht Club and hung out for a day and a half. It was a rad place to rendezvous and spend an afternoon. Erin made us all some of her signature van life pizzas, and the next morning we finally sat down to record a podcast. It was a great time chatting with them. I was particularly interested in the van they built out on the same length Ram Promaster that I have. There are definitely some elements in their build that would have changed some of the elements of my build had I seen them first.
Nick & Jake are Moxi & Loon, a two piece psychedelic rock band that have played shows for years with their vans backed together outdoors at events. Jake is a full time van lifer in a Promaster with an impressive electrical system and Nick splits his time between his old converted Chevy and hashtaghouselife. Just as they were getting a tour booked in 2020, the world shut down. But they've used the time since then to sharpen their act and make connections that were uniquely available to them because of the weird world which presented itself last year. We just basically hung out and laughed at each other.
Sometimes, living in a van, you just meet someone in a parking lot. A lot of times living in a van, you just meet someone in a parking lot. Ali was parked over close to my favorite spot to cook and watch the surf in Encinitas. she was loading a SUP into her van, and we had a great chat. So we decided to record a chat about her decision to move into her van full time, and the travels she plans to execute in it.
Chris came out to Tiny Fest, CA from Nashville. He's only been in his van for a couple of weeks, and he's been going around to different van meetups as he settles into his mostly built van. We sat down to have a chat about his build and his adjustment into the whole van life thing.
After quite a while of barely missing each other on the road, I was finally able to catch up with Taylor & Chris Allen to have a conversation at Tiny Fest, CA. They'd just gotten back into San Diego from an extended stay down in Baja California. We discussed their history migrating into the van from house life to boat life. We talked about their theories on caravanning, their own style of travel, and the moves their making in the nomadic business space. I hope you enjoy our conversation.
Follow them at
@adventureallens
@musclesonthemove
adventureallens.com
I drove up on the bluff to walk the dog one day and caught wind of this woman giving stick 'n poke tattoos in the back of a van. This is a story you probably won't find anywhere else. So I tracked down her contact and set up the interview, slightly worried I should've done a little more due diligence to make sure it was wise to interview her. Kat turned out to be an absolute delight: clever, funny, and bravely honest with a dude she just met. It was an absolute pleasure to talk to her. And I don't know shit about tattoos, so there's a decent primer for the novices out there in this episode too. Enjoy it. I surely did.
I met John a couple of years ago at a van meetup at Fiesta Island in San Diego. Between both of us traveling heavily, and the near end of the world in 2020, it took quite a while for us to actually sit down to record a conversation. John's a super fun dude, and basically no punches were pulled during this chat. Enjoy the chaos.
Ellie is a rad woman with whom I became quite good friends over the pandemic lockdown. We originally met up with her boondocking with some of our other vanlife friends on BLM land outside of Bend, OR. Since then, we've kept in touch and keep meeting up to hang out whenever we're in the same area. I was stoked to finally get to sit down and record a conversation with her about her transition into van life and outlook on the whole situation.
Seth and our buddy, Dave, built out his Sprinter camper in like 3 weeks, which has got to be some sort of record. Also odd, he moved full-time into his van right as the COVID-19 locked down much of California and the world. But he stayed stoked anyway, because that's what Seth does. We had a good socially distant chat about all of that just as Southern California began to experiment with reopening much of its businesses and public space.
Melanie is a trumpet player and part time van lifer from Tasmania. I miss hanging out with podcasts guests in my van, but the upside of the current state of the podcast is that I got wonderful insights about van life across the world from a quite pleasant Australian I may have never actually spoken to otherwise.
Johnny lives part-time in a low top Ford Transit traveling around New England photographing headshots for colleges. The Coronavirus outbreak sent him back to hunker down on his property in southern Alabama. Since then, he's been hosting van lifers like John, giving them a place to post up rather than having to navigate life on the road during lockdown.
Megan is a good friend of ours who lives in a beautiful Sprinter. For 6 weeks, she's been self isolating on public lands in the Southwest. We hopped on a zoom call to talk to her about her experience quarantining outside. We had a great chat about how mountain biking, her experience with solitude in the outdoors, and how this whole coronavirus situation might affect her van life timeline in the future.
Madelyn, Caleb, and Christian have all been on the podcast before... before Corona. Now, Madelyn and Caleb are hunkering down at an uncle's property in Texas. Christian is temporarily posted up in Idyllwild, CA. We got on a video conference to record a podcast about how we're all coping with van life during the pandemic. We talked epic trip they took together. We speculated about what this means for the van community going forward. It was fun, and surprisingly sort of uplifting.
We're stuck posted up in a driveway in Oceanside. We miss our friends, and we can't meet up with them to record podcasts. So we tried one on Zoom with our buddies Shane Dennis and Jarrod Tocci. We're all pretty close, so it was a total train wreck. Hopefully you enjoy it anyway. Stay safe.
In the midst of a global crisis, Colette lost her car and computer in a matter of two days. We are having a good time.
So, Colette, Spin, and I are observing social distancing and lockdown. We've only been to the grocery store in the last six days and only went there once. We've had a lot of #vanlife sort of stuff going on notwithstanding the global pandemic spreading around us. We took this isolation as an opportunity to talk about our new van, last month's TinyFest, and, of course, van life under this shelter in place order. We like chatting with each other, and we're super thankful that anybody cares to listen to us. Stay safe, friends.
Peya is a lovely young woman from Idaho living in a large Dodge Promaster. She plunged into van life based just on research she performed on the internet. We talk about her journey from her father helping her build out the van in his shop, to finding a close knit community of people in a small Northern California town.
Jenny & Alex run a van building shop called Terra X. Their vans are dope, and so are they. We've just known them for under a year, but they're already some of our favorite folks. Our conversation flew all over the map, as it always does. We had a good time with it. Hopefully you do too!
@terrax.build
We sat down with Sydney on the stage at TinyFest CA to talk about her life on the road, making money as a digital nomad, and her ascent to Instagram stardom. It was a wonderful conversation, but the room had a myriad gnarly echos. Apologies for the sound quality. We'll have her on the podcast from the actual van soon, so listen to this now if you can tolerate it.
@divineontheroad
Renee is the creator and organizer of Tiny Fest events around the country. This coming weekend is Tiny Fest California at the Del Mar Fairgrounds in San Diego County, featuring tiny homes, container homes, skoolies, and vans. It was super cool to sit down and chat with her about minimal living and the societal shift that these movements will inevitably bring. She's also offered us stage time on Saturday, February 29, to host our first podcast episode in front of an audience. Tune in at 5pm on instagram. I'll do my best to live-stream the podcast.
This week, I sat down to talk with Jessie about living in a van with her shepherd pup, Shasta. It's always interesting to me to hear why folks are in vans, and how it guides them to reflect on their pasts and futures. Jessie has been living full-time in an old Dodge conversion van, and we dug into what living in a van has taught her about herself in her short journey on the road.
@sandsunsaltwater
Madelyn & Caleb are living in a rare, 25 year-old, Toyota Hiace. It's a little, pinkish 4WD van with the steering wheel on the right side. It's cute and quirky just like this couple. They're super stoked on their departure from conventional routines and their life on the road work with their cat, Nora.
@patchworkcanteen
Christian Henkel is a photographer, outdoorsman, and full-time van lifer in San Diego County. Like many of us, he's chosen the van for the flexibility and affordability. He realized a few years ago that he wants to be a professional photographer, and he's working really hard to make that happen while he makes ends meet working for REI. I'm inspired by his drive and tenacity. He's also a good conversation.
@christian.henkel.photo
Matt is a professional wind tunneler and skydiver with a Guinness World Record. He's also a survivor of one of the nastiest set of injuries I've ever heard recounted. He's leveraged this experience to a thriving place of positivity and gratitude. Talking with this guy really put my melodrama and self pity in perspective. He's recently moved into a van, and will be traveling the country promoting community with his company, Flock Goods. Check him out, and try to hang with him when he's in your town. Time is well spent with Matt.
Mark and Tim came into town to pick up a couple of vans to take them up to his conversion shop in Portland, Oregon. Nomadik Customs converts vans for all sorts of customers. We had a great chat with these guys. They definitely know their stuff, and seem to have a great time working at it.
Shane showed up in our hood while we were gone. He's recently come out from New Jersey, and he's living full time with his pitfalls Millie and Bucky in a giant Mercedes Sprinter that he converted himself. He's been great to hang our with for the last little while, and we had a nice little sit down and chat. Hope you enjoy it.
Jarrod Tocci is a vanlifer, youtuber, and comedian who's just finished his second van build. It's a 2019 Sprinter with as many bells and whistles as I've ever seen in a DIY-ish camper van. He designed the van and did a lot of the work himself, but he got professionals to help him out with many of the more technical aspects, so he calls it a DIY-Assist build. He's also a good friend, so we basically just hung out and bullshitted for an hour and a half on this episode. Here's hoping you enjoy that.
Greg & Jess quit their corporate jobs and moved into a Dodge Promaster on their 5th wedding anniversary. Now they're working seasonally and traveling as much as they can while they navigate making van life sustainable in the long term. It's been a real treat to get to hang out with them while they're around Southern California for the winter.
@drifter.journey
Megan is a nomad accountant living in a converted Mercedes Sprinter. We met when she was between vans in early 2019, and we've been trying to get her on the podcast ever since. We kept missing each other, but winter in SoCal is where all the vanners flock in the winter. Turns out we didn't even need to chase her. But it's been really great to spend some time with her.
Angela owns a house in Phoenix and lives part time in an old Ford Econoline van the rest of the time. We had a wonderful hang. We talked about the pursuit of a nomadic lifestyle, heartbreak, and trying to find a gig that fulfills. Though we had only just met, she was simply inspiringly candid and kind. If you get a chance, you should probably hang out with her too.
Ali is a photographer, climber, and vanlifer who lives in Denver, CO in a Chevy G10 van. She is also the marketing director for the country's largest climbing gym. Her forthcoming book, Heartbreak Roadtrip, promises to be a poetic exploration of the relationships people have with artifacts from failed relationships. Though we had only just met, I was immediately enthralled with Ali's energy and candor.
Alexa Glazer came to Encinitas for a speaking engagement promoting her book "Livin' the Dream." She's livin' full-time in a Mercedes Sprinter and rolling from place to place for speaking engagements and adventures. We were stoked to get a chance to sit down with her and talk about public speaking, ambitions, and #vanlife.
@movinalexa
alexaglazer.com/
Ben Carter doesn't live in a van, but he is the Senior Litigation Attorney at the Kentucky Equal Justice Center. He deals with eleventy billion equity issues including affordable housing, which is quite relevant to the various minimal living movements like vehicular habitation and tiny houses. We visited him in his comfortable stationary house in Louisville, KY earlier this year. And we had such a spirited conversation that I asked him to come on the podcast when he came out to a conference in San Diego. This guy is fucking brilliant and equally compassionate. And I love it when a conversation changes the way I think about a topic. I'm pleased to say that happened in this podcast.
Route del Sol is a media company currently documenting the travel of two intrepid explorers. Joel and Keegan are driving from northern Alaska to the southern tip of Argentina in an electric camper van powered almost exclusively by a massive array of solar power. This van is unlike anything I've ever seen. It was a real treat to catch up with Joel down in Chula Vista, Ca, just before he crossed the border into Mexico.
Follow the journey:
@routedelsol
YouTube
Bowen is a paraglider, kite surfer, and entrepreneur who moved into his minivan camper the day after the last time he was on the podcast. He and I both have the Mercedes Metris diy camper van, and we hooked up down in San Diego county to talk about his first few months in van life and where he's headed in his van to camper conversion in the future. We talked about parking, travel around North America, and his plan to ship his van over to Europe next year. It's always fascinating to compare and contrast experiences with other folks living on the road to hear how we perceive our space in this nomadic adventure.
Becca & Jeremy spent the last couple of years living in a tiny house on Colette's dad's compound in Fallbrook, CA. Tim had a bit lot with space for another structure, and he helped them build a stand-alone loft studio / shed in the yard. They've since moved into a larger place in Palm Springs, and they're getting married in June 2020. I wanted to have them on the podcast to talk about the similarities and differences between #vanlife and #tinyhouse life. They're delightful folks, and we had a great conversation.
Teddy White is a career piano man who loves busking on his DIY 3-wheeled piano bike. He came on the podcast about 9 months ago to talk about his move out to California in a 90's dodge van. Since then, he's gotten a job in the bakery at one of our local overpriced grocery stores so he could make more money... and he's over it. #VanLife is a constantly evolving experience for most of us, and Teddy's in the middle of a pretty big transition. I was excited to get him back on the podcast to hear how life has changed, and what he's looking for as he departs Encinitas in the new year headed for Rubber Tramp Rendezvous.
Kamryn moved out to California from Alabama a few years ago. After being confronted with astronomical rents, she was inspired by members of the climbing community to build out a van and move into it. Today, she’s living with some friends of mine in a house where I used to live several years ago. We had a great chat about her decision to move back into a brick and mortar residence as well as what her time living in a van taught her about herself and the world around her.
Johnny is a 65 year-old singer/songwriter who moved into his Dodge Promaster exactly two weeks ago. He's got a broad range of stories, from dealing with mental illness, addiction, and several years previously living in a car out of necessity. Now, his music and gigs are booming. After being laid off from a job of 17 years earlier this year, he is leaning into his creativity and making a living off of his lifelong passion, music.
Check out his website at JohnnyCBand.com
We were racing back to San Diego through the Colorado Rockies. I was looking for someone to ask for advice on where to go hiking and where to crash in the van. The local paper had a write up about these guys who are building out vans close to vail, so I hit them up. Two strangers turned out to be two super sharp dudes who are approaching the van thing from a particularly community-oriented angle. I really enjoyed hanging out with Dave & Matt. Go bother them at their shop when you're passing through Gypsum, CO.
Blair has customized her Mercedes Metris as a weekend river surfing adventure rig. We were passing through Denver and had a good chat with her about this fascinating sport we've never tried.
September 21 marked one year of Colette, Spin, and I living in my van full-time. We sat down to talk about her life and our experience making a life in a very small living space. We discussed our desires for the next van we'd like to move into and our friends & families' reactions to our decisions to wade into this somewhat unusual lifestyle.
This is a different one! D-Stroy is an emcee who's part of the Arsonists, a NY hip hop group that put out one of my favorite albums of all time. D-Stroy is of particular interest to me because he's a super inspiring renaissance man, of sorts, who has cultivated and translated his performance talents into a super diverse career bridging from hip hop to announcing for a variety of sports to hosting a show on satellite radio. He's energetic, hilarious, and exploding with positivity. Very inspiring. I've been a fan of this guy for 20 years, and it was an honor and privilege to get to sit down and pick his brain.
Billie and Kaleb are a couple from North Carolina that we met at a van life meetup in San Diego last year. When we came to meet up with them in Brooklyn, they were trying to take care of an drivetrain issue with their friend Alex's van. They took a break to all come over for a chat about living on the road in our van, parked a few blocks away.
Ellie & Sandon hit us up on instagram as we were passing through Michigan in response to our story requesting somebody introduce us to some van life folks in Detroit. They're finishing up their first van build in her father's barn in Michigan. Soon, they'll move full-time into their 170" Mercedes Sprinter. We talked about their van, their excitement, reservations, and media careers after a beer at Easter Market Brewing in Detroit. We're super excited to have them back on the podcast after they've been living in the van.
Russ is an old college friend of mine who is a full time visual artist in Minneapolis. His work is beautiful, poignant, and filled with purpose. We were passing through the midwest and jumped on the opportunity to hang out and drink a couple beers with him at his studio. russ-white.com
Skye Walker is an Encinitas based muralist who is wrapping up his year-long Sea to Sea Mural Tour. For the last year, he's been living in a 144" wheelbase Mercedes Sprinter, traveling from town to town painting murals for a variety of different clients. We caught up with him in his hometown of Corvallis, OR to have a conversation about art, van life, and street art.
Larry Balma is a legend in the skateboarding world. He invented the modern skate truck which revolutionized the speed, versatility and durability of the skateboard. I had the good fortune to get to meet Larry Balma through Colette's mom, Patte. We had a fantastic conversation about life, entrepreneurship, risk-taking, surfing, and, of course, skateboarding.
Sylvia Maguire is a sassy older British lady who's family friends with Colette's family. I met her a dinner over at Colette's mom's house and she immediately started busting my chops. She's enthralling and hilarious. Plus, you'll enjoy trying to decipher her accent.
We met Jenny & Alex hanging out in the van at the beach. These guys are as excited about #vanlife as any folks we've met. They used to run a large furniture business in Atlanta, GA. Last year, they decided they needed a change, so they sold all their shit, built out a van, and came to California. At their first real van meetup in San Diego, they decided they would rent a shop and start building out vans for other people.
Brooke is a Texan we met at a 4th of July BBQ. She's waiting tables around North County, San Diego after moving out from Texas and spending a year up in Venice Beach. She's got a great attitude about pretty much everything, and she was a delight to talk to.
Bre & Lacey are doing A LOT! These ladies started The Vanlife App, a mobile application that directs vanlifers to amenities, camp spots, and each other accompanied with a forward thinking, leave no trace ethic. They also run SD Campervans, a local company that builds vans out to homes inexpensively for their clients. AND they are instrumental in most of the vanlife meetups and gatherings in Southern California. I met them almost a year ago at one of the gatherings, and we became fast friends. They're delightful, clever, powerful women who consistently bless the community with fun and insight.
Mark Massara is a pivotal California environmental attorney who spent years doing grassroots outreach and attending Coastal Commission hearings all over California using Chevrolet vans as transportation and accommodation. This guy is an absolute hero and one of the best stewards of the California coast that the state has ever seen. It was is honor and a privilege to sit down with Mark and chat about coastal access, preservation, and of course, vans and surfing. I hope you enjoy this episode of the podcast which reads as much as a primer on the California Coastal Act as a story of epic adventure and #vanlife.
Carl Brown and his partner, Sean Donnelly, just released a fantastic film about the Young Marines, which happened to premiere just as we came into San Francisco. I met Carl Brown in 2007, when he asked to do a short MTV piece on the environmental campaign I was helping to run. At that time, he was a one man journalism "team" operating under the name Corduroy Media. In the time since, Carl has grown his media business to a full-time staff of 10 in a very handsome office in Oakland, CA. This year, he and his lovely wife, Pilar, opened a big soundstage on the backside of the same building that Pilar will operate as a second business, available for rental by other media creators in the area. Pilar runs Mama Dog Studios, where we pulled the van to record the podcast in my little mobile studio inside of their really nice new facility.
Bowen is a kite surfer, a paraglider, and an entrepreneur. We met through instagram when he reached out asking questions about the build inside my van. He has a Mercedes Metris too, and we connected over mounting for a couple of different pieces of furniture. On a recent trip to the Bay Area, we hit him up about getting on the podcast, and we rushed up to catch him on the eve of his entry into full-time #vanlife. We had a great conversation about all sorts of topics, from action sports, to adventure, to urban planning. He's out on a great trip for the summer, and I'm looking forward to where his experiment into full-time #vanning takes him.
Jess and Mike met on bikes! They've been living the full-time #vanlife for 2 years, and one of their vans was smashed and totaled by nature. She's the C.O.O. of The Vanlife App, he uses his architectural background to influence the epic drawings he does on-site as they constantly travel around the country. These dudes have a lot going on.
Kensie & Joey are a young van life couple living in a huge, 6-wheeled, Sprinter. Their build is awesome and they are too. He's a swim coach and she's starting a business. It's so rad hanging around with these guys. Always positive vibes and excitement about whatever's about to happen.
Moxi & Loon is a killer loud rock band. I've seen them play at a few events, and their setup is as rad as their sound. Jake's vocals and guitar are both amplified by his van's solar system, so they just back their vans into a V, throw down a rug for Nick's kit, and thrash. They're also really fun guys with very distinct personalities which made for a super fun conversation. Here's hoping they blow the fuck up so you can all see them play.
Ryan is a rad native Southern Californian who lives full time in a 4WD Mercedes Sprinter van that he built out himself. He's also an entrepreneur running reformlife.com which is a company providing everyday and adventure gear specifically focused on reducing use of single use plastics. He aims to make utilitarian products that provide alternatives to diminish our impact on the waste stream.
Macey just happened to be parked next to us one day at the hang spot. She was chilling in her bed in the back of her SUV, and was super open and inviting. After a couple minutes chatting about her adventures, I suggested she check out the podcast and maybe consider sitting down with us someday. She's like, "I'm leaving town this evening, how about we record right now." So we jumped right in and had a great conversation about the importance of getting out of your comfort zone, the education system, and this fantastic trip she's on.
Heather & Anthony are our full-time neighbors in Encinitas. They are a surfy couple with a 50 lb black dog working local jobs and hanging out in our favorite town. We're basically the same couple in different vans. We have a good time hanging with them. And we hope you enjoy their story.
Jarrod is one of the first van lifers I met after I bought my van. My buddy, Luis Perez, turned me onto his YouTube channel because he was obsessively watching Jarrod's videos which delve into the logistics of living in a van. When I found out that he's a comedian, I hit him up to come play a show that I sometimes host in Hollywood called That's Shoe Biz.
We had a good chat about his surprise success as a #vanlife YouTuber, his plans for his new van after the sale of his first buildout, and his aspiration to travel the country in his van doing standup. And we did it all looking pretty dumb next to each other in clashing-ly similar colored green shirts. Can somebody get wardrobe in here already?!
Kara and Chris are a rad couple I met at a gathering in eastern Santa Barbara County. They're pretty new to van life, but they seem to already have it pretty well dialed. We had a great conversation about their van life logistics and travel plans. Plus I got to hang with their dog, which is pretty much the highlight of any day.
Molly is a nomad and marketing strategist living in a Mercedes Sprinter camper van that she converted herself. I ran into her at a vanlife meetup, and we had an inspiring conversation about her travels, her work, and her optimistic world-view.
Visit her website at:
http://wildheartsriseup.com
Brie & Shawn are a delightful couple from Oklahoma who are traveling with their two dogs, Milo and Jackson, living and working full time in their van. I had a great conversation with them at a van life gathering in the hills of New Cuyama, CA.
Teddy is a career piano man. He's mostly played in piano bars and cruise ships, and his catalogue is like 400 songs. A year ago, he moved out to California in a dodge van that he coated in truck bed liner. Nowadays, he's busking around San Diego County at farmers' markets and popular coastal destinations. Teddy is one of the cheeriest guys I know. He's so fun to talk to, that I avoid walking by his van sometimes just so I'm not late to everything because I get carried away bullshitting with him.
Patrick is really my kind of maniac. He's a voracious student of life, a jack of all trades, and far more interested in living creatively than correctly. We haven't lived near each other in about 16 years, but we make a point to get together and dither nonsensically as often as possible. When I haven't caught up with him in a minute, whatever he's up to is always a surprise. It comes out of left field, and then totally makes sense. Please come listen to us talk about an unreasonably broad swath of topics on which we have basically no authority.
Julie and Heath travel around in a Dodge Promaster that Heath built out in 2.5 days. Like holy shit, my build took 30x that long. They're avid climbers, and run a climbing gear distribution company. They're all over the place all the time, and our conversation just scratched the surface of the adventures they're having.
Here it comes: a podcast where I have conversations with people about their relationships with residential vehicles. Vanlifers, weekenders, etc. We'll hang out, maybe drink some beers, and hopefully stumble onto something that you don't mind hearing. It's also available on the YouTube as a video series. For all the latest, follow the whole shebang on instagram @fromthevan