The New Now: Recent Episodes

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The New Now: Join two Christian leaders as they seek to lead both now and into the new. The leadership landscape is always changing of course, so join Matt Hogg and Jon March, two Church of England priests, as they go on a journey learning together and chatting with special guests in the bid to help them and anyone else seeking to lead in any context both now, and into the new.

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We spend time with Jemma Regis, a courageous and inspiring woman who for many years has battled with her mental health, and yet has continued to move forward despite the challenges and set backs. Jemma is a successful entrepreneur, author, podcast host, mental health advocate and speaker. Listen to Jemma as she speaks very honestly about how she has handled living with depression for the last 35 years and yet continued to lead and move forward.   In this episode you will hear about: -Living with depression and practical things Jemma has done -The place of faith in the midst of challenging times -Leading through adversity -Setting up new businesses -The importance of communication in leadership -Looking to the examples of others to inspire action   In this moving and gritty episode, you will get an insight behind the scenes into a leader with a wealth of experience built on a lived experience of seeking to trust God day to day.   If you want to connect with Jemma just head over to her website here.

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We want to get these conversations out far and wide to help as many people as they lead in their own contexts: both in the now and into the new. Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

You can follow Matt and Jon on our social channels. Thanks for being on this journey with us, and we're looking forward to connecting with you.

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Stu Wright is a partner at GiANT London specialising in leadership coaching and consultancy of senior executives and teams. He started his career as an engineer then spent 21 years in church leadership including leading a resource church in an urban deprived area of London. He specialises in building multicultural teams and in unlocking the potential and purpose of people’s lives.

In this episode we look at themes like

-Transitioning into new roles

-Discovering your unique shape

-Putting family first

-How to make big life decisions

-Maximising your potential

If you want to find out more or connect with Stu for a follow up conversation do reach out via his LinkedIn.

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We want to get these conversations out far and wide to help as many people as they lead in their own contexts: both in the now and into the new. Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

You can follow Matt and Jon on our social channels. Thanks for being on this journey with us, and we're looking forward to connecting with you.

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We chat with Rosie Conroy who is an XLP youth worker based in North London working with local churches, schools and embedded in the local community. She lives and breathes incarnational ministry and you can hear her passion for young people and calling out the best in those around her. 

A moving episode where we discuss:

-Youth work in challenging places

-What it was like to be a young person in lockdown

-Digital poverty

-Calling out the good in people

-The power of listening and remembering names.

If you want to get in touch with Rosie she gave her email address: rosie.conroy@xlp.org.uk

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We want to get these conversations out far and wide to help as many people as they lead in their own contexts: both in the now and into the new. Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

You can follow Matt and Jon on our social channels. Thanks for being on this journey with us, and we're looking forward to connecting with you.

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Listen in to our conversation with filmmaker and storyteller, Tom Harmer. Not only is Tom a highly skilled and effective communicator and creative, who is seeking to tell the story of our humanity, shining a light on God’s creation, but he also has his own story to tell. Tom has a story of dependence and trust in God for his provision, direction, inspiration.   We include topics such as: -Holy Discontent -Uncovering God's purpose for your life -Principles for storytelling -Tips for leadership communication -The creative industry in the pandemic -Free-lancing -and more…   Tom created an exceptional piece of work during the pandemic, '52 humans’ which you can find here. You can also connect with Tom via his website or social channels.

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We want to get these conversations out far and wide to help as many people as they lead in their own contexts: both in the now and into the new. Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

You can follow Matt and Jon on our social channels. Thanks for being on this journey with us, and we're looking forward to connecting with you.

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Listen in on our conversation with Seth Pinnock,  @sethanthonyp who is a singer, songwriter, founder of Symphony Co, head of African and Caribbean Engagement at Tearfund, as well as a business consultant. We chat with with Seth about:

  • Discovering Your vision
  • Being a 16 year old founder of a God given vision
  • Leading in a post pandemic world
  • Building team
  • Bridging the gap with our communities
  • …and more

If you are a leader and looking for a bit of encouragement and inspiration, listen to this conversation with an amazing leader making a tangible difference as he follows the Lord. 

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We want to get these conversations out far and wide to help as many people as they lead in their own contexts: both in the now and into the new. Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

You can follow Matt and Jon on their social channels. Thanks for being on this journey with us, we're love to connect.

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We spend time with the phenomenal Bayile Adeoti, founder and director of Dechomai, a social enterprise that aims to 'Deliver on-demand leadership and enterprise courses and programmes through strategic partnerships to change mindsets and empower female BMEs with the skills to advance their business and ideas while creating memorable events and products for businesses and individuals'.

Bayile is a serial entrepreneur, a pastor in her church, a presenter and speaker, as well as a wife, mother and follower of Jesus.

Listen to an incredible conversation as we discuss:

-Prayer and leadership

-The impact of Covid on leadership

-A vision for leadership

-Finding a good balance when there is always more to do

-Leaning on others

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Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too.

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Another bite-sized episode for you to get your teeth into as we reflect on some leadership learnings from the last week. We get Jon out of bed in a different time zone to record a conversation that covers:

-Real time learnings about building team

-What you look for as you're building an advisory group

-Thinking about the process vs. the destination. Both as so important.

-The place of prayer in leadership

-Stepping back for the big picture

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Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

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We have been listening to themes that have emerged over the last 18 months as we've been speaking to people about leadership learnings and things they have been leaning into. What we've discovered is that these things have simply been highlighted by the events of the pandemic. Things have been intensified, but these principles always stand true in any season.

These are the first a number of themes that we're going to drop in from time to time and today we look at:

1.There will always be a new and now

2.Leaders don't always have the answers

3.In leadership, the journey is as important as the destination

4.Be clear about your purpose.

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Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

You can follow Matt and Jon on their social channels. Thanks for being on this journey with us, we're love to connect.

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Happy International Podcast Day! 30th September is when podcasts get their own special recognition and The New Now thought it would be a good time to release a shorter episode, a New Now 'bitesize' if you will, by way of a round up and a catch up on Matt and John and what they have been thinking about and reflecting on in their own leadership contexts. Covering:

-Some Fun Podcast stats

-Job Changes

-Being present vs. being future orientated

-3 Spheres of influence

-How they're connecting with God

-Current Books

-Spiritual formation

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Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

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Rachel Ivers trained as a business psychologist, has a lot of experience in the corporate world and now works as a consultant for Giant London. We enjoyed spending time with  with Rachel hearing about the importance of knowing ourselves to lead those around us, learning about 'Cockram's Law', and even getting Jon a bit of impromptu coaching! Rachel mentions that you can connect with her via her email and offers everyone a free resource too.

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Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

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We get up early to chat with our friend Farmer Tom the day after he finishes bringing in the harvest from his 350 hectare farmland. What strikes us as we talk with Tom is that we each have been given a part of God's Kingdom to steward or tend in leadership, and we hear how Tom has been walking, talking and responding to God in his work. Tom is a former film industry executive turned farmer, and chairman of the East Of England farming conference. He also is the founder of global education initiative 'Farmer Time'. He lives in rural Cambridgeshire with his wife Lisa on the family owned farm.

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We have the privilege of chatting with and learning from Madge Obaseki, who is a leadership consultant, ordained minister, entrepreneur, author and broadcaster as she shares some wisdom about developing healthy leadership in these uncertain times. We look at:

-Clarifying vision  -Communication -Mental Health -Investing in personal growth -Trends for post-pandemic leadership challenges -Authenticity -Hybrid living

Madge Obaseki has a huge amount of professional experience working in the corporate and not for profit sectors. She runs several enterprises of her own including a catering company and an entertainment agency. As a consultant she provides a range of organisational development services including strategic reviews, on-going support and training for not-for profit and faith sector organisations in the UK & USA. Her focus is on retention and growth in organisations. You can find out more about her here: www.madgeobaseki.com

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Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

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We have the privilege of chatting with Yinka Ewuola who is a founder, entrepreneur, and coach, plus a host of other things. A phenomenal lady who founded UK Black Tech and a consultancy firm called Calla Success Systems. Want to know the secret to her passion, productivity, and success? Then listen in to an inspiring and practical conversation which was recorded on the hottest day of the year in 2021.

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Paul Kerensa is a comedian, broadcaster, author and more. Much more. He wears many hats and spins many plates, and during lockdown he has been learning how to traverse challenging terrain.   Listen in on another fabulous episode of the New Now as we hear about faith, creativity, comedy, leadership, communication and more. Don’t miss it. 

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Tell us how you got on with it? Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

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In the year before lockdown, Steve Coulson set up a new company called Kitt Offices which has been gaining a lot of traction despite the challenges of lockdown. As an entrepreneur, Steve shares some of the challenges, the successes, some highs and lows of leadership in the last 18 months and gives us an insight into his world of entrepreneurship, working with a team, inhabiting values, and living with faith as a foundation. This and more in another inspiring episode of The New Now.

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Tell us how you got on with it? Let us know what you'd like to hear more of. It really helps us to hear from you and discover what you're learning from these sessions too. 

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We spend some time with Lyn Weston, who is a leadership and change management guru working for The London Institute of Contemporary Christianity. As a marathon runner, Lyn provides a powerful image of what it means to lead when the going gets tough. Learn about the different between project management and a change management. Figure out who you're going to need to help you lead in this season as you try to navigate challenges both now and into the new.


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Listen in as Matt and Jon for this Christmas special episode as they review some of the key themes that have resonated for them over the last 7 months of interviewing, discovering and navigating in this new context. As they draw in sound bites from key leaders they have chatted with like futurist Patrick Dixon, Theologian Elaine Storkey, or Social entrepreneur Debra Green, hear about:

-Acceleration of trends

-Authentic leadership

-Digital opportunities

-Conscious incompetence

-The place of specific prayer

All this, plus some Christmas jumpers, festive jingles and some hilarity too.

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Every leader needs to navigate change. Every leader will have to react to change. But does every leader know how to lead change and lead it well? 

We spend some time with change expert Andy Blacknell who has huge experience consulting institutions like the NHS, Church of England and the BBC. 

Spending time with Andy, you will discover key change principles that will help you lead change well in your organisation or team. Learn about communication, pitfalls to be aware of, and even discover what God thinks about change!   Change is something we all need to consider. Welcome to Episode 21 of The New Now.     —————  

Thanks so much for listening in on another episode of The New Now. If you enjoyed it please do share, comment or review so that we can hear from you but also enable others to listen as well.

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Leadership guru John Maxwell once said that Vision tells us WHAT, Mission tells us WHY, but strategy tells us HOW and today we spend a bit of time looking at how vision can become reality for the Christian leader.

More than just setting goals and objectives, strategic plans and gathering teams, there’s an essential element in this process that can sometimes be forgotten.

In Episode 20, Jon and I share examples of what this process looks like and analyse how to discern whether God is at work in a particular course of action. 

We hope you enjoy Episode 20 of The New Now


Thanks so much for tuning in on another episode of The New Now. If you enjoyed it please do share, comment or review so that we can hear from you but also enable others to listen as well.

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A brilliant and powerful conversation with Will van der Hart who is the director of www.mindandsoulfoundation.org and the author of a number of great and practical books. No leader is immune to worry, burn out, isolation or competition and these are some the things we discuss in episode 19 as Will shares very openly about his own journey, but also gives us as Christians leaders in whatever sector some very important things to reflect on. We think you'll enjoy this episode.


Thanks so much for tuning in on another episode of The New Now. If you enjoyed it please to share, comment or review so that we can hear from you but also enable others to listen as well.

You can follow Matt and Jon on their social channels. Thanks for being on this journey with us.

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In this episode Matt and Jon look at the subject of resilient leadership. Developing the conversation that began with James Lawrence (E9: Leadership that Lasts) they spend some time considering what the bible says about a 'long obedience in the same direction', level 5 leadership, failure in leadership as well as the all important character of the leader. Listen in on another conversation as these two friends and Church of England vicars reflect on leadership together.

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Listen to a discussion between Matt and Jon as they explore what it means for leaders to discern vision and commit to a direction. Does it require the leader to go up a mountain by themselves in search of God's vision statement? Is discerning direction a one off event or an ongoing process, navigating the journey up a series of metaphorical peaks? You will get some behind the scenes insights into the way two church leaders have learnt about discerning vision and setting a course. From quoting Sinek, to the Archbishop of Canterbury, we're pretty sure you won't be disappointed.

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The primary job of the leader is to define reality, but often this process can be very challenging for leaders as they confront the brutal facts in front of them. Listen in on a conversation between Matt & Jon as they reflect on the practise of defining reality. Hear what they have learnt in their own contexts, as well as the principle of double listening, using simple tools like a SWOT analysis, and hear about something called the Stockdale Paradox. Don't miss out on another episode of The New Now.

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How have you responded to the curve balls of 2020? Have you been leading re-actively more than pro-actively? Join Matt & Jon as they begin a new season of New Now discussions sharing insights about what they have learnt and are learning. Hear what symptoms emerge for each of them when life gets busy. Discover what foundational practises might enable you to lead well both now and into the new where other curve balls will undoubtedly exist. 

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Nick Cuthbert is a leadership expert and widely known across the UK through his books and ministry, as well as his  leadership and Church consultancy work. We hear from Nick about the opportunity leading in a time of change brings for organisations. We also gain insights about leading teams, control and leadership, healthy leadership, crisis and leadership, but also the shape of things to come. Is this the end of churches as we know them and the start of something exciting? Listen in on a conversation with a good friend and mentor.

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Cris Rogers is a creative, fun, strategic and missional leader. He and his wife Beki lead a church in East London but Cris also helps lead Spring Harvest and has gained insights into the national church through a diagnostic tool that he developed as part of his 'Making Disciples' resource. Listen in on a conversation with Cris and hear about trends in the national church, why digital wasn't his first response when lockdown hit, plus 6 shifts to create a healthy church culture, and much more.

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We spend some time with Dr Jonathan Oloyede who is the senior leader of City Chapel in South London and leader of the National Day of Prayer. Jonathan gives us some incredible insights into prayerful and prophetic leadership as well as hearing how God led him before lockdown happened. Listen in on another incredible conversational with a well respected leader in our nation.

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We spend time with international speaker, author, consultant to top level executives and co-founder of Giant Worldwide, a global leadership consultancy. Steve Cockram comes with an unbelievable amount of leadership expertise, knowledge and experience. We look at the importance of values, mobilising teams, investing in your organisation, as well as the 5 Gears of leadership, something that Giant Worldwide have developed. Come and listen in on another amazing episode of The New Now podcast.

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In the coming months and years we may find ourselves spending even more time in our local communities and neighbourhoods as headlines suggest we will become more 'hyper-local'. As Christians and churches there is a fresh opportunity for us to be present and a voice in our local community, to work together with other stake-holders and to see change.

An amazing episode with Debra Green OBE who is founder of 'Redeeming Our Communities' and a well known leader, speaker and author in the UK. Debra has a huge amount of experience and a huge heart for bringing churches and other community leaders together for important transformational conversations. We talk about prayer, mobilising the church, local leadership and more.

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In this episode we have the privilege of spending time with another national leader, well known for his leadership insights and passion for developing leaders that last. James Lawrence is the Leadership Principal for CPAS, is an author, speaker and director of the nationally recognised leadership programme called Arrow.

We find out about why this time is more like a triathlon than a marathon; learn  how to guard against burn out and how to be more effective as leaders both now and for many years to come. Don't miss out on another great episode of The New Now.

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In this episode we welcome the well-known and well-loved Dr Elaine Storkey, theologian, philosopher, author and social commentator to review some of the newspaper headlines from the last 4 months. We listen to Elaine's perspective on how these huge events will shape culture as we seek to understand the terrain in which we lead. Listen in to a conversation with an amazing lady.

We also discover something new about Jon!

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A fascinating conversation with Theologian, Author and award winning blogger, Dr Ian Paul. Having recently published a commentary on Revelation we thought who better than to talk with an expert about what the bible has to say about these days. Is this the end of the world? Does the pandemic spell apocalypse for us all? What does it mean for my leadership? All that and more in this jam packed episode.

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Matt & Jon spend some time sharing key lessons they have learnt during lockdown. Listen in on a conversation between two leaders who are navigating terrain in real time. They delve into the need for new tools in a new landscape, as well as explore what leading in the dark looks like, and increasing the elasticity of the leader. They also review the previous weeks and some key insights they have picked up so far. 

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We spend some with Dr Patrick Dixon who is a futurist, author, government adviser and keynote speaker. He has been described one of the most influential business thinkers of our time. We ask Patrick for some help to lead both now and into the new and he skilfully paints a picture of life in the coming decades. Sit tight and get ready for another amazing episode of the New Now conversations.

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(Out of respect for the survivors of the abuse caused by Ravi Zacharias and our respect for Amy, we have edited this episode that we made last summer)

Amy is internationally recognised apologist and we have the pleasure of speaking to her about how culture is changing and how questions being asked are changing too in the hope that it will give us some insight into how we lead in this new season.


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In this episode +Jill Duff (Bishop of Lancaster) joins us to talk about how leaders can become better listeners and followers first. As Christian leaders in whatever sector, we need to hear the voice of God in this season. A stunning conversation with an inspirational voice in our nation in this time.

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We chat with Ed Olsworth-Peter who is the National Advisor for Pioneer Development in the Church of England. Ed has extensive experience with leading leaders of teams in pioneer settings. In the New Now, we are all pioneers. Come and listen to the questions we need to be asking in this time.

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Join Matt & Jon, two priests in the Church of England as they introduce themselves and the concept of The New Now and begin to share a bit about their own experience of leading in the Now and thinking about leading into the New.

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