That Jesus Podcast: Recent Episodes
Francis James and Dru Lattin
What are the evangelical messages around sex, desire, spirituality, and beauty actually doing to us and our children? Sheila Wray Gregoire shares research on this question, and offers healthy, Jesus-centered alternatives. We also hash out social media conversations, celebrity, and much more.
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Once again, we dive into Judges, and think about how the mighty Gideon fell from faith to cowardly idolatry. But first: a recap of what we’ve been reading lately, and corny poems for spring.
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This week, I drag @WalterRothbard off Twitter and into a wide-ranging conversation on political theory, marriage, and anger. David (real last name not disclosed) has an amazing testimony of the transforming power of Christ's peace over anger. We get into some turbulent waters as we consider critiques against an author that David has benefited from and conclude with some practical advice about overcoming anger.
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Lisl and I are excited to kick off a new season (era? reboot?) of That Jesus Podcast! After the usual navel-gazing, we pick up with the book of Judges, exploring the rise of Gideon. Does God want us to demand signs before we act? Is cowardice a sin? Did Gideon make noise with a ram's horn or with a trumpet? Tune in to find out. You can catch up on our previous studies on Judges on this feed - episodes 93 and 94. Share your questions and ideas on WhatsApp: 218.353.1725--- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thatjesuspodcast/message
What is liturgy? Are written prayers a form of “vain repetition” or a tool to avoid that rut? An Anglican pastor joins Dru to discuss this and more, along with friend-of-the-pod Kimberly Witmer!
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Tis the season for pumpkin spice and, err, spicy interviews? Sheila Wray Gregoire joined us to rescue sex from the unbiblical errors that often permeate Christian messages. Whether married or single, this conversation provides helpful insight into God's design for sexuality, along with practical pointers for growing in intimacy.
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David Carlson joins us again, this time sharing his journey in memorizing Scripture as a spiritual discipline. But first, The Cohost dreams about Dru and we discuss the ethics of AirSoft rifles. Tune in after the end for a few minutes of liturgy with David, from the book of Genesis.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
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writhyn.github.io/memory
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It's episode 100 folks! The cohosts begin by discussing eternal conscious torment since it's just that time of the year. Then, Dr. Barbara L. Peacock joined us to talk about spiritual formation and soul care from a historic African American perspective.
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We are back with Season Five!
In this episode, we talked about an article that was recently published in the Kingdom Outpost by one of the hosts on the pursuit of pleasure in Christ. Paradoxically, discipline may be the path to spiritual euphoria.
Link to the article: https://kingdomoutpost.org/sacred-euphoria
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We are wrapping up Season 4 and looking forward to the next chapter of the podcast!
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Styles of parenting have a way of stirring up conflict like few other things. Perhaps that’s because parenting is so real. We’ve all been parented - for better or worse - and many of us are parents. Most of us will be - again, for better or worse.
In today’s episode, we have Patricia Lewis on to share about an alternative to the traditional fundamentalist spanking-centered approach. Patricia is a mom herself, with training as a foster parent and as a special ed teacher. Titus is a parent of three children, three and under. It gets real and practical.
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This episode was worth the wait: Dru talks with David Carlson, who recently achieved “Twitter virality” for his parody of what he calls “patriarchal theobros.” But that conversation is just the warm-up. Dru and David talk theological formation, devotional life, and how creativity can draw us to God. That’s not all, folks: Before we get to David, Titus and Dru do some Monday-morning quarterbacking on Titus’s recent debate on non-violence. You can find Titus’s debate in our podcast feed (ep 95). David Carlson is on Twitter @theBibleinVerse. His website with more creativity is davidecarlson.net The Christianity Today article on justice and worship songs can be found here: christianitytoday.com/ct/2021/september-web-only/rhodes-ccli-top-25-worship-songs-singing-justice-songs.html
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Titus was invited onto Clubhouse for a debate on Christian pacifism.
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We're back with another look at Judges - this time, we explore four judges from chapters 3-5. Why does God keep testing Israel? Was Barack a judge, a coward, or just a guy that God used? And what is the ACTUAL melody for the children's song with Shamgar in it?
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What kind of Apocalypse do you believe in? Are you premil, amil, preterist, or just a panmillenialist? Our guest explains why most eschatology systems miss the point of John’s revelation. It’s really good stuff. Before the good stuff though, Titus and Dru talk about prayer retreats and longform prayer. Dru rants about panmillenialism and forgets the name of Jeremy Duncan - our esteemed guest. Check out Jeremy’s book, UPSIDE-DOWN APOCALYPSE, here: amazon.com/Upside-Down-Apocalypse-Grounding-Revelation-Gospel/dp/1513810391 We have an extended segment with Jeremy on Patreon. Check it out: patreon.com/posts/marvel-movies-68167111
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Dru and Lisl begin a study in the Old Testament book of Joshua. It's a bit different from our usual fare, but quite possibly worth a listen! They discuss genocide, the sovereignty of God, and how fast a person could run without their big toes.
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This week, we (sorta?) field questions from our audience, except those that Titus doesn't like. Dru edits out the stuff that is especially egregious - so what's left? The cult of domesticity, Hutterites, small businesses, and a bit on the end of Acts. If you listen very closely, you might just hear a cry for help.
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Without Titus around, Dru manages to ramble through a conversation with a couple Midwesterners: Packy Sporre and Tim Lattin talk about their experiences with the Mennonite church and community, before diving into an ill-fated discussion on gun control.
Like all our episodes, this is a conversation, and there's more to be said. Let us know what you think about this episode, and check out outtakes from this convo on our Patreon.
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Alright, this one is intense.
Dr. Baxter is an intellectual mystic (not a contradiction of terms) who joined us to for an extremely packed interview about Christian mysticism (also not a contradiction of terms).
Just give it a shot.
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Into the yawning void caused by a lack of guys yammering about abortion on podcasts, Dru and Titus nobly step into the gap. Listen in for confessions of childhood dream jobs, the perfect wedding, and some heartfelt reflection on how Jesus people should respond to restrictions on abortion. Dru also rants about stare decisis and flat Bibles.
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It's Episode 87 of That Jesus Podcast and we finally got around to talking about Jesus! In this edition of the show, Titus struggles to describe some misgivings he has about how much Christians talk a lot about issues relating to Jesus and his church but often seem to miss centering on Jesus himself.
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Is social media the greatest tool for evangelism since Pentecost? Is it shallow noise that makes us feel good about being connected without making a difference? Or, in the words of Titus, is social media the devil? Joash Thomas knows a thing or two about social media and he joins Dru to answer this question once and for ALL. Or, at least share some deep yet practical insight on the topic.
Don't miss the webinar on the same topic, featuring Joash, Beth Moore, and Karen Swallow Prior centreforpublicspeaking.typeform.com/EngageGrace Learn more about Joash's work with International Justice Mission here: ijm.ca/team/joash-thomas Check out the video version of this interview, hosted by The Kingdom Outpost: youtu.be/_H0rTTfLXnI
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Titus is back from his trip and has some harrowing stories to tell. God was teaching him and the rest of the team how to trust in the Father and that things are not actually in our control. Dru and Titus went on to discuss some common objections to disciple-making in unreached nations and how to go about this work in a healthy, productive way.
Titus' article about why Protestants aren't unreached: https://kingdomoutpost.org/why-the-christians-you-disagreed-with-arent-the-unreached/
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How should Christians view authority and leadership in the church? How do we faithfully navigate the complexities of power structures? Responding to the heartbreaking reality of abuse of power in the church, Jon Carlson, pastor of Forest Hills Mennonite Church and Moderator-Elect of Mennonite Church USA, joins Dru and Rebekah for a discussion drawing from Scripture, ministry experiences, Anabaptist history, and nonviolent theology. Check out bonus segments and regular updates here: patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast More writing, podcasts, and resources available at kingdomoutpost.org
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With Titus recovering from his trip to India, the Midwesterners took over this episode to talk about entertainment, evil, and the power of story. Let us know what you think by reaching out on Facebook, WhatsApp, or on our Anchor page - we’d love to hear from you. Find bonus segments at our Patreon: patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast
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Our very own Reverend Dru Lattin has become widely known for his propensity toward nuance. In order to set him straight, we invited Emily Smucker to share her thoughts about the famous Mennonite ditch analogy. Why do we always think we are in the middle of the road and everyone else is in the ditch? Is moderation and balance a Christian virtue? Tune in to hear centrism challenged and Titus' lack of teetotalism exposed.
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Rebekah Mui helped us interview Dr. Drew G. I. Hart, an activist, author, and professor, about critical race theory (CRT). Is CRT simply Marxist propaganda? Is it contrary to the Gospel and a Christian worldview? Tune in to hear Dr. Hart offer an informed historic perspective and tie in the importance of working to see justice for the marginalized. Dr. Hart's work: https://drewgihart.com Our Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast
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We are back with Season 4 of That Jesus Podcast! Dru & Titus catch up a bit and discuss their devotional lives and current ministry opportunities. Then, Austin Lapp joins Titus to discuss how followers of King Jesus are formed into the image of their King. SPOILER: it involves not staring at your phone so much (like you are doing right now). Austin sketched his complicated relationship to the spiritual disciplines and presented a compelling vision for discipleship. Patreon: https://www.patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast Contact Austin: austinlapp92@gmail.com
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We look back at a few of our favorite episodes from Season Three, and share about our plans going forward. Titus again brings up his snoring bulldogs and Dru manages to sneak the word "epistemology" into a Christmas rant - twice. Vintage TJP.
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It looks like Roe v Wade might get overturned next year thanks to Trump's Supreme Court nominations! Was Titus wrong all along for opposing white evangelicals' support of the Donald? Tune in to hear this and more current events discussed like the trial of Arbery's killers and the saga of a contested Confederate battle flag. Then, we discussed how important humility is in the life of a devoted disciple of Jesus.
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Kimberly Kirtz, from Sattler College, joins Dru and Patrick to discuss all things college: Who should go? Are universities dens of wickedness? What about debt? And is Sattler the best option for everyone ever? More about Sattler College here: sattlercollege.org
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Justice is such an important part of the restoration of God's rule on earth. Today we are featuring a conversation that Rebekah Mui hosted over at the Kingdom Outpost. The three guests were our very own Titus Kuepfer, Derek Kreider of the Fourth Way Podcast, and Joash Thomas, who is Canada's national director for the International Justice Mission, the largest anti-slavery organization in the world. They talked about the tension faced when nonviolent Christians are faced with situations involving extreme oppression and abuse. Do we cooperate with the sword of the state in these cases? Joash shares from his wisdom and experiences fighting injustice around the world in this rich conversation.
By the way, Titus had to leave half way through the podcast. It's not like Rebekah muted him to avoid further nonsense spewing forth. Stop assuming the worst.
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Mennopolls is at it again, showing some of the dark underside of the conservative Anabaptism world. 10% of conservative Anabaptists seem to be okay with using the n-word to refer to black people. Titus rants about this despicable reality and a very white Dru adds his privileged perspective. Then, Titus makes a case for baptismal regeneration and Dru pushes back with his signature druance. Also discussed are the proper age and mode of baptism. Thanks to our listeners who submitted questions for this episode!
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Dru and Titus discuss their experiences with observing the Lord's Table and tackle some practical questions about how we celebrate. But first, Titus entraps Dru into talking about CRT and racism and Dru admits he is white. Also, Dru admits he is white.
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After catching up on the latest news about hundred-year-old Nazis, hundred-year-old priests, and 500 year old boats, we discuss Halloween and eating blood. Then, at 33:45, Dru talks ESL ministry with Sam, a veteran instructor passionate about using English teaching as a tool to fulfill the Great Commission. Asia's Center for TESOL: actesol.com Reach out to Dru with any questions about TESOL - he'd be happy to help! https://www.patreon.com/Thatjesuspodcast?fan_landing=true
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Anthony Witmer, a friend from Titus' church, joined us to talk about the kidnapping of CAM workers in Haiti and the implications of using the term missionary to describe kingdom work overseas. Then we interviewed Gary Miller about his latest book: Reaching America. Gary described why it seems so hard to reach Americans with the Gospel in the 21st century and shared a few tips on how to overcome those barriers.
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Abram Martin joins us to report on his experience at the Revoice Conference. While Abram passionately shares about discipleship and diversity in the church, Dru and Titus try to distract him with apostrophes, John MacArthur slams, and snoring bulldogs.
Some resources from Abram:
What comes after the Ex-Gay Movement? Gay vs. Same Sex Attraction You can also reach out to Abram at abrammartintx@gmail.com.
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It's Indigenous Peoples’ Day! Holly Helton, a member of the Ojibwe tribe, joined us to talk about the fraught relationship of Christianity with indigenous peoples throughout history. But before that, we covered some very morbid pieces of news and Pastor Dru cured Titus’ mental health issues.
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In this packed edition of TJP, Dru shares a convo with Stephen Russell from Faith Builders about Scripture. They touch on the history of the church, tradition, community, and using the Chronicles of Narnia in family devotions. But before the interview, the crew has it out about religious exemptions for vaccines and Rebekah shares her latest opus on The Kingdom Outpost. Come for the new sound effects, stay for the mere devotion! Support Jazmine: https://gofund.me/d96ff7ea Rebekah's article: kingdomoutpost.org/the-cross-spiritualized-suffering-or-lifegiving-wholeness More about Steven here: fbep.org/about/personnel/stephen-russell
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Keeshon Washington and Emily Smucker joined us to discuss the potential benefits of consuming fiction, Josh McDowell's racist remarks and subsequent resignation, and how to effectively share the love of Jesus in the post-Christian West. Also, you will get a chance to hear Titus' creative genius at work in our new segment jingles.
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Dru and Emily review the disastrous consequences of fasting while driving, and then talk with Luci Kinsinger about her new book, Turtle Heart. We discuss boundaries and sacrifice in ministry, developing genuine relationships, not being a jerk about racism, and much more. Check out Turtle Heart here: lucindajkinsinger.com/turtle-heart-release/ You can find Emily’s blog here: emilysmucker.com
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Joshua Lloyd Parker joined us to help Titus push back a bit on Dru's appearance with Joel Nisly on Strength to Strength. We talked about the IHOP-KC movement and discussed whether or not something is missing in our churches if we are not experiencing the supernatural.
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Today we are featuring a conversation that Rebekah Mui hosted over at the Kingdom Outpost with Dru Lattin, Tim Whittaker, and Jon Carlson. They discussed Christian nationalism, nonviolence, and more.
We will be back next week with some fresh content!
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Today: A conversation about the so-called New Apostolic Reformation. But first, Titus complains about boogeymen and shares a supernatural experience of his own.
The original discussion with Joel Nisly and Dru was hosted by Strength to Strength, a community that seeks to advance the Kingdom through sharing teaching, convos, and testimonies. Check out the full program - with Q/A - right here: strengthtostrength.org/revival-or-heresy-the-so-called-new-apostolic-reformation/
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We discussed Titus' experience of revival at Kingdom Fellowship Weekend, the ongoing crisis in Afghanistan, Biden's blasphemies, and more. Then we were joined by a few of our friends--Emily Smucker, Kristi Mast, Tim Kuepfer, and Jon Quesenberry--to hear about their devotional lives. Also, you will get a chance to hear Titus sing a powerful line of anointed CCM music.
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Dru and Titus provide empowering thought leadership around superstition, lightning strikes, and the Taliban takeover of Afghanistan. Then, Stephen Russell shares his journey from Catholicism to embracing non-violence and joining the Beachy Amish. Steve's book: https://www.amazon.com/Overcoming-Evil-Gods-Way-Nonresistance/dp/0981656900/ref=sr_1_2? The author of satirical book TJP does not necessarily recommend, on Twitter: https://twitter.com/MatthewEPierce
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If you ever get past deciphering the title you are in for a real treat today. Our friends Rebekah and Christopher joined us to push back on Titus' insensitivity in the last episode. We went long, just like your deconstruction should (unless you believe in reconstruction like Dru).
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Dru thinks it's serious, sometimes healthy, and rooted in French philosophers. Titus thinks it's a silly fad. But both of us think we should all spend more time praying together in New York City. Listen in as we share our stories of deconstruction.
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Titus sits down with his long-time friend, Jon, to talk about what it looks like when the presence of God saturates a Christian community.
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Today, Dru schools Titus on the Stone-Campbell Movement - its goals, its trials, and where it all ended up. Also: learn the new name for Dru's church and hear Titus say nice things about Trump voters.
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Just in time for America's birthday, here's an audio version of an article Dru shared on The Kingdom Outpost. Let us know what you think!
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Hope you're hungry for a conversation about fasting. Emily Smucker joins us to reflect on what the Bible says about fasting and how it can draw us away from the capitalistic gluttony of American culture toward God. Check out Emily's blog and writing here. You can find her original article on fasting at The Kingdom Outpost. John Piper's book on fasting is available for free here. Don't forget to pick up your TJP mug - along with some home decor - from our sponsors, Creative Designs by Fern. Use the discount code thatjesuspodcast for 10% off your purchase.
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Titus shares his latest obsession with Dru: St. Francis of Assisi.
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In this final episode in our series on sex and gender, Dru and Lisl have a (mostly) unscripted conversation about God's good design for sex. Learn about the sex lives of camel drivers and whether sex is more like glue or a crescent wrench.
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Our latest episode tackles an extremely sensitive topic: transgender. We were thrilled to be joined by Dr. Preston Sprinkle to discuss some of the ideas in his latest book on the topic. Rebekah Mui also shared a bit at the end about how her story intersects with this conversation. It's a loaded episode, and you won't want to miss it!
Preston's book: https://www.amazon.com/Embodied-Transgender-Identities-Church-Bible/dp/0830781226
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How common is unwanted same-sex attraction? What should a person do about it? In the next conversation in our series on sex and gender, Abram shares his experience growing up Old Order Mennonite while wrestling with same-sex attraction. Listen as he cuts through assumptions and myths about this topic.
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We decided to take a break from our series on sexuality and gender to hear from Brother Eby about the current COVID-19 crisis in India. Brother Eby is the president of a ministry that equips over 6,000 Indian pastors. He describes how the virus has devastated the nation's medical infrastructure and what his ministry is doing to relieve some of the suffering.
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There are few things more antithetical to Christ-following than the abuse of another for one's own pleasure. Yet sexual abuse is common across all religious groups, including Anabaptists. On today's episode, Hope Ann Dueck of A Better Way shares practical, pointed counsel for fighting this scourge.
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We live in a world that is saturated with pornography. Studies show that in our churches men especially are addicted to porn at alarming rates. Asher Witmer and Tim Kuepfer join us to share about their experiences and offer wisdom on how to overcome this vice and live with sexual integrity.
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Today we are starting our series on sex and gender! Our first guest is someone we have both followed for a while--Dr. Preston Sprinkle. Preston lays out some of the problems with what Dru calls the purity industrial complex and helps us frame the conversation in a more healthy way.
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Dru has a bit of nuance to add to the vaccine discussion and Titus is becoming a monk (sort of).
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Conservative Christians are the least likely faith demographic to get the COVID vaccination. Is this damaging our witness and contributing to the persistence of the pandemic? Dr. Finny Kuruvilla joins us to share the science behind the vaccines and debunk some common misconceptions.
Article on efficacy and safety of Pfizer vaccine: https://www.nejm.org/doi/full/10.1056...
Article on fetal tissue in vaccines: https://grants.nih.gov/grants/policy/...
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Dru and Patrick sit down with an old friend, Keith Yates ("Bear"). Listen in as Bear reflects on favorite hymns, friendship, and devotion to Christ.
Bear has worked with young people for decades, laughing, mentoring, and modeling passionate love for Jesus.
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Titus and Dru interrogate each other on recent church experiences, and determine, once and for all, what the perfect church should look like.
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What does it look like to take the New Testament - even the confusing bits - seriously? Today, a conversation on the practice and meaning of 1 Corinthians 11.2-18. We explore this symbol of authority and power - power to live out Christ's Kingdom in our words and prayers.
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Brenna joined Titus to talk to Chloe Milioni about her involvement in a ministry in Uganda that works to save the lives of babies at risk for abortions. To date, 40 babies have been saved through the work in Kampala, Uganda!
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In this special edition of the podcast, Titus sits down with Rebekah, Aaron, & Abram to talk about a new project they've been working on: The Kingdom Outpost. The Kingdom Outpost is an online hub for articles, podcasts, videos, blogs, and other resources promoting a kingdom worldview. If you want to contribute your own work, email admin@kingdomoutpost.org.
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In lieu of our last episode bashing Calvinism, we decided to invite on our favorite Calvinist, Derek Kreider. He shared how he came to adopt the position of Christian nonviolence within the reformed tradition. We then went on to discuss which theological differences are central to the faith and what we can simply agree to disagree on.
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We nerded out theologically with two Davids who are not big fans of Calvinism. David Eicher ranted about its incoherency and David Pallman responded to some of the proof texts used in its defense. And of course, there were some fantastic dad jokes included as well.
Pallman's show: Faith Because of Reason https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC8sTncrKOJtT3J4TEwg7fag
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Rebekah and Patrick hopped on to discuss some of Jesus' teachings about money and the poor that we tend to ignore or explain away. Dru also repented of his voting and Rebekah made it five seconds into her opening remarks before bringing up colonialism. It was a good time.
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Dru began this episode like he always does, with some thrilling dialogue about the weather. We then had an inspiring conversation with Merle Burkholder, the administrator of Open Hands, which focuses on helping people in the majority world start small businesses and overcome economic challenges.
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At the top of the episode, Titus shares some top secret information about their church shopping adventures. Kimberly Kirtz also shared her testimony of growing up in an agnostic home and converting to Christianity after reading Aquinas. Her journey is a fascinating one that I'm sure you will find encouraging!
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It's our final episode of 2020! Dwight Gingrich joined us to discuss how we can incorporate good Bible reading skills into our lives in 2021.
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We circled back around to our core values in this discussion with Titus' brother Tim Kuepfer. Tim shared how God led him to sell his house and business and move his family to Boston in order to disconnect from his material attachments and pursue the kingdom wholeheartedly. He also described how Sattler College and the Followers of the Way church has shaped his spiritual formation since his move.
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No, this episode has nothing to do with Star Wars. I just couldn't think of a title that isn't redundant. Rebekah Mui joined us to discuss the conversation we had with Dr. Drew G. I. Hart. We covered everything from Barabbas and the Revolutionary War to the effectiveness of sermons.
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We were thrilled to have the opportunity to connect with Dr. Drew G. I. Hart to discuss the relationship between the black church and anabaptism. Dr. Hart outlined how white supremacy, colonialism, & Christendom have distorted the counter-cultural witness of the church and how we can resist these perversions.
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Brenna and Lisl joined us for the aftershow where we talked about everything from vaccinations to fathers giving their daughters permission to date to mutual submission in marriage!
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Many times, a harsh form of complementarianism can create problems in families and churches. Although we are not egalitarian, we want to be careful to value women and affirm their voices. Aimee Byrd joins us to share her wisdom on this topic.
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Don Davis, a missionary in India, joins us to share an unapologetic call to prayer.
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Titus, Brenna, Dru, and Lisl discuss topics surrounding our conversation with Christy Smucker about her work in Atlanta. Are the Scriptures often used to condemn abortion mere prooftexting? Has the pro-life fight in politics made a difference? And what would Titus do if he had a vial full of zygotes? Tune in!
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Messiah complexes, abortion, ministry, and racism are on the menu today in this candid conversation with Christy Smucker. She shares hard-won insights from her work with moms in inner-city Atlanta.
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There's no guest this week, but Titus and Dru hash out some topics of interest such as John MacArthur, COVID masks, white evangelicalism, and how to get along with people you disagree with in your church.
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After a practical, down-to-earth conversation with Drew Dyck, the Mysterious Rebekah M. joins us to debate esoteric theological differences. It was a great conversation and we think some thoughtful questions were raised. Tune in to the discussion about holiness, Wesleyanism and Anabaptist views of sanctification. Rebekah's podcast is The Kingdom Women Podcast.
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This was supposed to be a quick episode, but Titus lacked self-control and we kept talking. Good thing we have Drew Dyck on to share practical and Biblical counsel about disciplining ourselves in what we eat, what we watch, and what we say on social media. We also touch on our favorite pictures of Jesus and play the Mennonite Game.
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In this missions-focused aftershow, Titus and Brenna grill Dru and Lisl on their experiences in Thailand. How much incarnational living is too much? How careful should we be to tiptoe around cultural expectations? What does the word twitterpated actually mean?
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Are Bible translators still needed today? Don’t most people have the Bible in a language they can read? In today’s conversation, Zach Barkman, a trainee with All Nations Bible Translation, dispels some myths and tells us what we can do to ensure that every tongue can hear the good news and join in worship around the throne.
All Nations Bible Translation: https://allnationsbt.org
Debate on systemic racism: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z8Z4d9t2WfY
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Titus turns in a commanding performance, with incisive questions about the conversation with Jeremy and Elizabeth Harshbarger. Along the way, taxidermy, lexicons, and church membership are explored with the trademark rabbit trails aftershows are known for.
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Jeremy was born into a conservative Mennonite church but found himself drifting from it in his late teens. Liz was welcomed by the Mennonites when she needed love and discipleship. Dru and Patrick pepper them with questions about their fascinating experiences in these communities. To share feedback, questions, and comments, email druseth@gmail.com, or reach out via Facebook: www.facebook.com/thatjesuspod thatjesuspodcast.com
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The bad news? It's just another aftershow. The good news? Patrick and Titus are BOTH on this episode. Join us as we hash out how to have healthy conversations in a world filled with Trump-lovers, Trump-haters, Nazi comparisons, and demons.
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In this aftershow, we revisit the theme of Bible and story as we take a deep dive into Sunday School, Bible story remixes, translations, and much more. Check the archives for the original interview with Simply the Story.
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It's Independence Day! Today the nation in which we reside as exiles celebrates their violent revolt against the British empire. Dean Taylor, the president of Sattler College, joins us to talk about the ethic of the nation of Jesus and how it contrasts with the world's way of exercising power.
A Change of Allegiance: https://www.amazon.com/Change-Allegiance-Dean-Taylor/dp/0981897304
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Today, we have a conversation with some folks who are passionate about the stories of the Bible. Three storytellers from the organization Simply the Story share an approach to Scripture that moves us from the page into our hearts, and into the world. Tune in to have your view of the Bible challenged and be introduced to practical tools for sharing the timeless truths of God's Story.
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Dru and I wanted to talk a bit more about what we learned from Dean in the last episode, so we decided to do an aftershow. Enjoy!
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Dean Taylor, the president of Sattler College, joins us to talk about a group of Christians who followed the Lamb with radical abandon: the Moravians.
Dean's documentary on the Moravians: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQNWCQbm4bc
Dean's article on the Moravians: http://www.ephrataministries.org/remnant-2012-01-Moravian-mission-machine.a5w
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Welcome to Season 3! My new cohost, Dru Lattin, joins me to discuss the main ideas we hope to explore in the future. Our six foundational values are:
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Holiness
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Caring for the Poor
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Community
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Great Commission
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Dru has a nuanced position on the gift of tongues that falls somewhere between cessationism and charismania. We talked for nearly an hour about it.
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Note: We will be taking a short break to make a few improvement to the show, and returning with Season 3 soon!
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I had the privilege of interviewing Dr. Dennis Edwards about how to properly understand the story of the Bible. We discussed inerrancy, christocentric hermeneutics, and how we can find meaning in the Scriptures for our lives.
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My friend and former Bible School teacher, Ernest Eby, joined me to discuss the strengths and weaknesses of the kingdom Christian movement. We also discussed the opportunities we have to make disciples through teaching English.
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My friend and one of my spiritual heroes Joel Martin joined me to give his definition of revival. We discussed some of the weaknesses of evangelicalism and conservative Anabaptism and how we can rekindle radical Christianity in our generation.
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Brenna, my wife, shares her testimony of how God revealed himself to her in a powerful way when she was struggling with loneliness and depression. She also describes a miraculous healing that she experienced.
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One of the primary accusations leveled against missionaries is that they are simply a form of colonialism and imperialism. This is a serious objection, and one that should not be dismissed lightly since history demonstrates that it is many times the case. I reached out to Rebecca to discuss the issue.
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Some friends and I started live streaming conversations about topics we find interesting on Facebook, and it eventually became the Dank Kingdom Podcast which you can find wherever podcasts are found. In this episode, we discussed the coronavirus and how followers of Jesus should respond.
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If we want to pursue spiritual awakening in the church for the sake of the propagation of the Good News among all nations, we are going to need to develop self-discipline. In this episode, Dr. Finny Kuruvilla describes some of the habits he has incorporated into his life. He also offers practical ideas for how to live a disciplined life.
Followers of the Way: https://www.followers-of-the-way.org
Sattler College: https://www.sattlercollege.org
King Jesus Claims His Church: https://www.amazon.com/King-Jesus-Claims-His-Church/dp/0974272795
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Brother Eby is an Indian believer who finds village pastors who are planting churches independently of any organization. His mission is to take training and resources to these pastors where they live, empowering them to plant churches in more unreached villages. Brother Eby's ministry is one of the few that I feel comfortable supporting financially. He's the real deal. Note: My wife Brenna and I are in India right now, so this will be the last podcast for a few months. Stay tuned for season two! Brother Eby's ministry: PM me for the link (security reasons) Follow us on social media! Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/thatjesuspod Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/thatjesuspod Twitter: https://twitter.com/thatjesuspod thatjesuspodcast.com
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With all that's been in the news about the conflict between Iran and America, I thought this would be a good time to release a conversation I had with my friend Reagan Shrock. Reagan helped start an organization that aims to help meet the needs of refugees in Iraq and Syria. We discuss what he sees as a faithful Christian response to the refugee crisis, and why more violence is not the answer.
Reagan's podcast: Anabaptist Perspectives https://anabaptistperspectives.org/
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The church should be a social institution that provides tight-knit community for its members. I talked to my friend Matthew Milioni about some methods we can employ to create such communities. We also discussed how the network of house churches that he helped plant functions.
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I believe that the church of Jesus is the primary institution God established to reach the world. In the next few episodes, we will be exploring a few ecclesiological topics. I reached out to Bruxy Cavey to see how his Anabaptist mega church in Canada functions. We also talked about various other issues such as his view on sola fide, nonviolence, and more!
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Since the stakes could not be higher, I believe we should be eager to find the most effective way to make disciples possible. Johan Gous, President of Hope Builders Ministries, is one of the few Christian leaders I know who understands this. Hope Builders works with indigenous missionaries and has seen over 11,000 village churches planted in eight African countries since 2001.
In this episode, we discuss Johan's unique model for discipleship that has yielded such incredible results.
Hope Builders Ministries: https://hbmin.org
Johan's book: Witnesses Wanted: Living an Unexpected Adventurous Life: https://www.amazon.com/Witnesses-Wanted-Living-Unexpected-Adventurous-ebook/dp/B07L7JFRDX
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I want to emphasize, more than anything else, the importance of fulfilling the Great Commission on this podcast. I will be interviewing missionaries about their work in the future, so I decided to set up the conversation with an introductory episode on missiology.
My guest is my friend Laney Mills. She is a Missions Adviser for Global Frontier Missions and a member of the Creative Media Team. She also occasionally writes for their blog. https://globalfrontiermissions.org/author/laney/
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Welcome to the inaugural episode of That Jesus Podcast! In this podcast, I hope to explore what it means to be a radical apprentice of Jesus of Nazareth. As we go, my goal is to uncover some of the root issues that have been causing the apathy we see within the church of Jesus. Together, I hope we can find some ways to fight that lethargy and rekindle spiritual awakening in our generation.
My first guest is Rick Rhodes, an author and speaker who has served as a missionary in Grenada and Thailand. You can find out more about his ministry and access his books, sermons, and more at https://rfamilyministries.org.
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