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Dr. Michael E. Bays

The Hollow Tube is about developing the simplicity, clarity, and vision in ourselves to become an open portal to creativity, inspiration, and wisdom. It's a channel to success and fulfillment in life. The Hollow Tube is a phone call from your big brother, a mentor, or a trusted adviser. Every week Dr. Michael and Patrick Bays share what they've learned and interview masters who can guide us to flow through life with maximum efficiency and minimal effort.

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I’m Dr. Michael Bays. In this episode, I have a conversation with Dr. Ann Marie Chiasson, the Fellowship Director of the Andrew Weil Fellowship of Integrative Medicine at the University of Arizona. I met Ann Marie back in 2008, when I was a fellow. We became fast friends because we both were interested in Shamanism, energy medicine, and alternative modes of healing. Dr. Chiasson is board-certified in family practice, hospice, and palliative medicine. She is also fellowship trained in integrative medicine through the University of Arizona Center of Integrative Medicine. She's the author of Energy Healing: The Essentials of Self-Care and Self-Healing with Energy Medicine. Ann Marie is my friend and teacher. I’m also part of a small group that works with Ann Marie in a school she facilitates. Some of our conversation is based on those teachings.

Many of us have lost someone over the past couple of years. We lost our father. The process of his passing was a kind of an initiation for me. As with any initiation, there's always some kind of a shift or a transformation within the initiate. That's exactly what happened to me once I was finally able to let go and surrender to the process. My fear and apprehension faded, and I became closer to my dad than I ever had been in our entire relationship. All of our history and my expectations dropped away, and I was able to connect on a level that I never could before. While mourning, I still wanted to keep busy and went back to work. That’s when all hell broke loose as COVID hit, and we were all mourning the loss of life as we knew it. I was having a difficult time, and so turned to Ann Marie for some much needed help, and this recording is part of our conversation. We talk a lot about COVID, because it was ramping up at the time, but you can replace that with anything that you fear or are worried about.

During these turbulent times, we are all going through a great transformation or initiation, and this podcast will help you navigate this uncharted territory into the great unknown.

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[10:47] Neuroscience talks about how three to six months of chronic stress and chronic pain can change the brain. Chronic stressors can down regulate the brain.

[12:00] There's a different vibe when you're meeting with people in person vs remotely.

[15:12] During COVID there were chronic stressors that never seem to go away.

[17:42] Everyone agrees that this has been an accelerant and all of the difficulties are getting illuminated.

[19:14] It's important to stay centered in every moment, with every breath.

[21:05] When something's going to come to fruition, you can feel the vibration. Check in with your body before you make a move, because we are all connected to the future.

[24:05] Taking people into the future and letting them feel what it'll be like when a loved one is gone will help them relax. It's like an energetic force that represents the family body.

[25:56] Ann Marie shares a technique of practicing that it's the future and then looking back. It's like having a mental memory of a future event in your life when you're planning your vacation.

[28:12] Hold the feeling that what you're praying for has already happened. How do you feel when this has already taken place?

[29:03] Ann Marie believes in partnering with the great unknown. So she waits until it's given to her. She can feel, hear, and taste it.

[30:16] Set your intentions but let the mystery unfold. Don't be greedy.

[32:15] Accept the present moment with gratitude, it's okay to have wants and desires.

[34:09] Labeling can be a trap and a prison around how you perceive the world.

[36:34] Surrendering to what is, can help your fears go away.

[44:08] Ann Marie talks about hearing wisdom for the first time from William Brugh Joy.

[47:43] The mystery of the outcast allows them not to be caught in the same karmic patterns as the family. They feel like an outcast, but it gives them freedom.

[50:49] Once a parent dies, a new head of the family will show up energetically. Just wait, and see who shows up in the family.

[55:20] Ho’oponopono working out differences in the family. Find more than one tradition and dive in deeply.

[58:28] The heart centered meditation. The heart center is the center chakra for above and below. The heart is the central point for the entire thing. The heart center is also a communal space. It's a communal place where we find each other and other sources. This is a meditation that allows us to generate energy. It's a doorway into all mystical teachings and teachings about love.

[01:06:20] The four attributes of the heart include compassion, innate harmony, healing presence, and unconditional love. The heart center has been around longer than any of us. When in doubt drop into your heart center.

[01:12:05] No matter how far I feel I've come on this spiritual path, Ann Marie has a gentle way of prompting me to look at things in a new way.

[01:12:31] Shaking it out is a Shamanic technique to use when you feel overwhelmed or angry.

[01:13:24] Project yourself into the future and work your way back into the present describing what happened in between.

[01:13:57] The patient-centered prognosis technique to hone in on the presence or absence of a loved one or event.

[01:16:59] Sunrise Supercharge changed my life and supercharges my day.

[01:19:40] Heart Centered Meditation

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Energy Healing: The Essentials of Self-Care

Barefoot Wisdom: Better Health through Grounding

Self-Healing with Energy Medicine

Healing with Body Energy

Joy's Way, A Map for the Transformational Journey: An Introduction to the Potentials for Healing with Body Energies

Avalanche: Heretical Reflections on the Dark and the Light

Jump Time: Shaping Your Future in a World of Radical Change

Secrets of the Lost Mode of Prayer: The Hidden Power of Beauty, Blessing, Wisdom, and Hurt

90 Seconds to a Life You Love: How to Master Your Difficult Feelings to Cultivate Lasting Confidence, Resilience, and Authenticity

Jump Time: Shaping Your Future in a World of Radical Change

Twelve Steps to a Compassionate Life

046 – Energy Healing and Shamanism

CurPoint Orthopedic

Quotes:

“All of us have been attached to certain ways of reality or what we think reality is. Of course, reality changes all of the time. Now people are being asked to handle the fact that reality is changing all the time.” Dr. Ann Marie Chiasson

“As with any initiation, there's always some kind of a shift or a transformation within the initiate. That's exactly what happened to me. Once, I was finally able to let go and surrender to the process then all my fear and apprehension faded, and I became closer to my dad than I ever had in our entire relationship.” Dr. Michael Bays

“You have to stay centered with every breath. You have to stay centered in every moment... Instead of thinking, I do a lot of listening. What's next?” Dr. Ann Marie Chiasson

If you enjoyed this podcast please tell a friend. You can download our 40 Day Affirmation Challenge at The Hollow Tube. You can also look us up on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

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We are back with a conversation with Daniele Bolelli. If you don’t know Daniele, he is a writer, martial artist, university professor, and podcaster. He was born in Italy and currently lives in Los Angeles. He is the author of several books, including On the Warrior's Path, Second Edition: Philosophy, Fighting, and Martial Arts Mythology, Create Your Own Religion: A How-To Book Without Instructions, and Not Afraid: On Fear, Heartbreak, Raising a Baby Girl, and Cage Fighting.

He is the host of the History on Fire podcast, where Daniele becomes your guide on a journey where history and epic collide. He’s also the host of The Drunken Taoist podcast, which is full of discussions and interviews. He’s also the author of the Taoist Lecture series, which tackles some of the essential points found in the Tao Te Ching and the writings of Chuang Tzu. Michael and Patrick discuss Taoist philosophy's main points, including what it is and how it applies to real life in this illuminating interview that tries to bring Taoism to our everyday lives.

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[12:00] Daniele Bolelli talks about taoism. Sometimes things click suddenly and have deeper meaning.

[13:19] Main books of Taoist philosophy include the Tao Te Ching and Chuang Tzu. Daniele goes into the history and myths of the books and authors.

[17:37] We talk about not getting lost in semantics. Meanings attached to words can be slightly different.

[18:56] The concept is the way and its power. The way of life and the way that the universe works. It's the primordial energy that is out there before everything.

[23:32] It's the ability to see things for what they are, and then you can adapt.

[25:02] We can't take all of the great books completely literally. We need to use the information in order to create a living breathing entity in our own lives. Everything in our sphere of perception needs to be interpreted in our mind.

[28:46] We have to be able to adapt to situations.

[29:06] With Taoism, there's an idea of learning in three stages. We start with ignorance. Then we learn the way things should be. Knowing stuff is just a stepping stone. The third stage is when knowledge turns into wisdom.

[29:15] Applied knowledge comes through making mistakes in life.

[30:56] Balance and harmony can be one and the same.

[32:08] Everything is moving and changing but allows the organism to maintain some functionality.

[32:56] You may have never heard of Taoism, but if you understand biology or some other discipline, the same principles will apply.

[39:21] Reading the energy of the situation and deciding what action needs to be applied at the moment.

[39:52] How ideas form interactions. The way you read your ideas could be very different from the way I read them.

[42:16] Perception and input in your mind with all of your history can create actions. Sometimes an action can mean no action. Options cause the brain to stop and think. This can slow down all of the endorphins and energy.

[44:15] If you're in a place where you don't know people but maybe your friend does, you could pull your friend aside and tell them your perceptions of the people around you. Then when your friend responds, you can get a gauge of how you're reading people.

[48:02] Some of the responsibilities of being a good leader is making sure that everyone else is taken care of.

[55:11] Once you find the pathway to a goal, you know you can achieve it when you invest mind, body and spirit working towards that pathway. Life can be a series of goals.

[59:57] Our natural state is relaxation. When we tense up, we make things harder on ourselves. We need to be in a state of relaxation as opposed to a state of fear even when we want something really badly.

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Daniele Bolelli
Luminary History on Fire
History on Fire Podcast
The Drunken Taoist Podcast
Taoist Lecture Series
On the Warrior's Path, Second Edition: Philosophy, Fighting, and Martial Arts Mythology
Create Your Own Religion: A How-To Book Without Instructions
Not Afraid: On Fear, Heartbreak, Raising a Baby Girl, and Cage Fighting
Tao Te Ching
The Book of Chuang Tzu

Quotes:

“When you write something down it becomes dead. It can not interact with the reader. It can't respond to the reader. It's something that's bound to be misunderstood.” Daniele Bolelli

“As long as we understand that what we're talking about is a distant second to the real experience. It's okay then let's talk about it.” Daniele Bolelli

“As a surgeon we walk into an operating room or patient room and within a millisecond, we pretty much know all of the factors involved and what we need to do next.” Dr. Michael Bays

“With the sphere of perception, every bit of information that we're getting whether we're reading it, hearing it, or seeing it has to be interpreted in the mind. It's through this interpretation that we develop an action plan.” Dr. Patrick Bays

If you enjoyed this podcast please tell a friend. You can download our 40 Day Affirmation Challenge at The Hollow Tube. You can also look us up on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

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Steve Anderson is an actor, director, coach, and acting teacher. He’s taught Michael about awareness, relaxation, presence, appreciation, focus, listening, and stillness. Consciously practicing these techniques has made him a better speaker with no panic attacks, a better doctor, and a better husband and father. Relationships have also improved, and it’s become easier to achieve balance and flow despite the chaos of life. Steve has been training actors for 25 years. He has been a guest artist at Clemson University, the University of Wisconsin-Green Bay, and the University of Wisconsin-River Falls. He taught Acting, Relaxation for the Performer, and Stage Combat.

He’s also been contracted by the University of Arizona to teach stage presence for public speakers. He directed The Secret Lives of Teachers and Lucky U Ranch. He’s worked off-Broadway, has received numerous awards, and has an MFA in Acting from the Professional Theater Training Program at Brandeis University. This is one of the most informational podcasts that we’ve done regarding skills that affect your professional and personal life. Steve kicks off the show by explaining what acting is.

We then talk about valuing impulses and trusting your sixth sense. Actors and public speakers need to be prepared to follow their intuition and be ready for surprises that may come up. We talk about clarity, having a presence, and how important it is to be interested in your topic to be interesting. Steve shares the importance of being relaxed, centered, and grounded and how sometimes we don’t realize that the tension is there until it’s gone. This episode will help public speakers, actors, expert witnesses, and anyone who wants more connection in life.

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[07:08] Acting is living under imaginary circumstances. It's a person in a place dealing with something who needs something. That's what causes all of the action, staging, and dialogue.

[08:36] It's not about demonstrating or showing what you're doing. It's about getting your focus outside yourself and getting involved in the doing part.

[10:13] It's important for an actor or a public speaker to value their own impulses. The sixth sense.

[12:09] When you don't understand your intuition, you should still go with it. Follow that impulse.

[15:00] Clarity is incredibly important for actors. The second you have clarity your presence takes off. We can relax when we have full clarity of intention and our presence will grow.

[19:22] The level of interest you have and what you're doing is equal to the level of interest the audience has in you when you're a speaker or an actor.

[23:15] You can go through life and not even realize that you have tension in your body until you feel the lack of tension.

[26:24] Being relaxed, centered, grounded, and focused is what makes athletes responsive. Great athletes live in the moment, they aren't stuck.

[29:00] Public speakers and actors need to stay out of their heads. Focus on the positive, that's where the energy goes.

[31:01] Every character sees the world through their individual filter. It's the actors job to find and see through that filter.

[37:28] As an expert witness, you have to believe what you're saying and be clear and believable to the jury and connect with them.

[38:27] Whenever Steve wants someone to be present he asks them what it smells like there. Smelling is a tangible thing that you are doing.

[44:19] We are better at what we are doing if we are prepared for it. Then we have the mental capacity to deal with the unknown.

[48:45] Daniel Day-Lewis prepared for the movie Lincoln by spending a year texting in Old English.

[53:38] You can affect other people without knowing it if you're not very mindful or conscious. Getting grounded can improve your relationships.

[58:26] The key to success is tactical empathy which is seeing, feeling, tasting, touching, etcetera.

[01:00:38] A lot of people don't realize that actor training is about living and humanity.

[01:09:16] Sunrise Supercharge. Every Wednesday Michael and a few friends go through a series of breathing and grounding techniques. They tap into gratitude and call in their ancestors and spirit helpers. They create a sacred hoop for problem solving and healing. They enter the flow state or the hollow tube state.

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Steve Anderson Instagram

057 – The Black Swan: with Brandon Voss

Quotes:

“So, you want something. Once you figure out what you're doing about it, then the job of the actor is to get involved in that doing. Just like in life. We tend to experience life through the senses.” Steve Anderson

“A lot of people think acting is just doing good line readings and good staging and making it look cool, but what we're really doing is seeing, tasting, touching, smelling, and allowing ourselves to observe the world around us from the outside in.” Steve Anderson

“It's important to have a clear vision of where you are heading and what your desires are in life. There's so much cross correlation between the way we live our life and acting and improv.” Dr. Michael Bays

“You have to believe what you're saying. If you're believable, and you come across crystal clear to the jurors and don't talk down to them or over their heads, you'll find that sweet spot where they know that you appreciate them.” Dr. Patrick Bays

If you enjoyed this podcast please tell a friend. You can download our 40 Day Affirmation Challenge at The Hollow Tube. You can also look us up on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

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Do you know what the word shamanism means? Listen as your host, Dr. Michael Bays, and his guest Nick Breeze Wood discuss shamanism and the difference between shamanism and animism. Nick shares how old he was when he noticed that he was different, how his family reacted, and how his mentors and teachers helped him along the way.

Nick shares that he always felt that something was going on much bigger than him, and he shares what has happened in his life that makes him believe that shamanism is real. Nick says that he has always doubted himself, even though he studied shamanism for many years.

Listen, as Nick discusses interacting with spirits in a trance-state and speaks about what happened to him on a journey while in a trance-state, and how, when he is in that state, he can actually talk to the spirits. Nick never knows what will happen next and has always believed that if you know what you are going to do next, you are doing it wrong.

Nick shares how an average person can maintain a ritual or ceremony in their lives and how to expand awareness. He also speaks about what his visions have shown him about the future and says that the winter will be hard, but that spring is just around the corner, and he has hope for what happens then.

Have you heard about how Michael re-centers and prepares himself for the day? It's called Sunrise Supercharge. Michael believes that the power is in the ritual, and the goal is to become a hollow tube, but you have to show up to practice to be successful.

Topics Discussed Today

[00:02] Nick shares the definition of shamanism.

[03:16] Nick speaks about how a shaman gets into the trance-state.

[04:53] What is the difference between shamanism and animism?

[09:21] Listen, as Nick discusses how he got into shamanism.

[11:01] Nick shares how old he was when he first started being different and what his parents said.

[14:40] Nick discusses his teachers and mentors in shamanism.

[16:27] He always felt that something was going on that was bigger than him.

[18:19] What events have happened in your career in shamanism that made you believe this is real?

[23:02] Nick shares that he doubts himself all the time, even though he's been in it for years.

[24:23] What do you do to maintain your discipline?

[26:32] Nick speaks about interacting with spirits when in a trance-state.

[30:18] "If you know what you are going to do next, then you aren't doing it right."

[32:08] Nick shares what happened when he was on a journey when a spirit came to him.

[37:08] Some spirits that come to him have names and personalities.

[38:58] Nick says that he isn't sure whether the spirits that come to him are his ancestors or Mongolian ancestors.

[40:13] When he is in a trance, he can talk to them.

[42:14] Nick speaks about how he keeps himself clean and away from harm when he opens himself up.

[46:28] "Invite in the spirits that love me because not everyone does."

[50:31] Nick discusses what you can use when you have a morning ritual to give offerings to the four directions.

[52:26] How do you know if you are in the right relationship with the spirit world?

[56:11] Nick talks about what he does to journey into the spirit world.

[58:32] Nick speaks about five or six journeys he did while drumming.

[1:00:23] Nick discusses some things that an average person can do to maintain some ritual or ceremony semblance in their lives.

[1:03:23] What can we do to expand our awareness?

[1:06:46] Nick speaks about the Sacred Hoop Magazine he and his partner created.

[1:09:41] Nick defines what the sacred hoop means.

[1:11:38] Where do your visions show us going in the future?

[1:14:17] Thank you so much for being on the show!

[1:14:45] Listen as Nick and Michael talk after the podcast is over.

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CurePoint Orthopedic

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Nick Breeze Wood

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Sacred Hoop Magazine

Music - Nicholas Breeze Woods Bandcamp

3Worlds - The Shamanistic and Tibetan Buddhist Ritual Objects and Antiques

Black Elk Speaks by John G. Neihardt

Quotes

“If you know what you are going to do next, then you aren't doing it right.” Nick Breeze Wood

“Invite in the spirits that love me because not everyone does.” Nick Breeze Wood

“You have to be playful, you can’t approach this kind of stuff in a serious way.” Nick Breeze Wood

“All shamans are artists, but not all artists are shamans.” Nick Breeze Wood

“Pay attention and walk this earth in a sacred way.” Nick Breeze Wood

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"How can making sense of past experiences and telling our personal story to heal us and make us stronger?" Listen as your host Dr. Michael Bays, and his guest Dr. Joan Rosenberg discuss the sentinel event that sparked her interest in psychology and led her to discover the power of personal story and the wisdom of unpleasant feelings much more on this episode of The Hollow Tube.

Dr. Joan Rosenburg is a highly regarded clinical psychologist, educator, and consultant who has shared her life-changing ideas, models for emotional mastery, change and personal growth, professional and educational seminars, psychotherapy sessions, and graduate-level psychology training. Michael first met Dr. Rosenberg at a speaker's workshop, where she taught about the power of sharing our personal story. He then read her life-changing book 90 Seconds To A Life You Love.

Listen, as Dr. Rosenberg shares three things she looks at when making sense of life experiences, and what she uses to help people who are suicidal. She believes there are three elements to people's thoughts on failure and speaks about the eight unpleasant feelings she has observed most.

Dr. Rosenberg discusses the Rosenberg Reset Technique, one choice, eight feelings, 90 seconds. Michael speaks about how this helped him in his time of grief and how it can help with burnout. Dr. Rosenberg also shares some final thoughts and how her book can help anyone ready to reset.

"You may not be in control of your emotions, but you are in charge of your thoughts."

Reach out to Dr. Rosenberg and tell her what you learned so that she will come back on the show. Go to her website www.Drjoanrosenberg.com to sign up for her training and where she will be speaking. Listen to her podcast called The Mindstream Podcast and check out her book 90 Seconds To A Life You Love; order it through her website for some free things from Dr. Rosenberg.

Have you heard about how Michael re-centers and prepares himself for the day? It's called Sunrise Supercharge. Michael believes that the power is in the ritual, and the goal is to become a hollow tube, but you have to show up to practice to be successful.

Topics Discussed Today

[08:37] Dr. Rosenberg shares her journey through life and the event that sparked her interest in psychology.

[10:30] Listen, as Dr. Rosenberg discusses what happened at camp when she was in her late teens, and a camp counselor told her she was boring.

[12:34] Fortunately, this experience strengthened her, and she used it to grow.

[13:43] Dr. Rosenberg believes that sharing our story can integrate our brain.

[15:36] Dr. Rosenberg gives some examples of how to tell our story well and not well, which is not doing it at all.

[18:16] What about those who grew up under hard life experiences and the blame they put on the person who perpetrated the experience?

[20:15] Dr. Rosenberg shares three things she looks at when making sense of life experiences across time.

[21:30] Michael shares a story about the first few years of his marriage.

[23:45] Dr. Rosenberg speaks about what she uses with people who are suicidal.

[25:13] There are three elements to people's thoughts on failure.

[27:09] Dr. Rosenberg discusses Jill Bolte Taylor's observation in her book around unpleasant feelings.

[28:56] Listen, as Dr. Rosenberg shares the eight unpleasant feelings she has observed.

[31:07] Resentment is disguised grief.

[31:21] Michael runs through the process Dr. Rosenberg has described.

[33:12] Why are we feeling anger for hours at a time? What are the three reasons feelings linger?

[35:24] Dr. Rosenberg shares they are called unpleasant feelings.

[38:18] Michael shares a personal experience that happened this week.

[41:48] Michael speaks about how the Rosenberg reset worked for him.

[42:03] Dr. Rosenberg discusses the Rosenberg reset, one choice, eight feelings, 90 seconds.

[43:36] She explains the two key elements of her technique.

[46:13] How does doing the reset enable us to feel confident, enthusiastic, and better about ourselves?

[48:06] Dr. Rosenberg discusses how her reset technique can help with burn out.

[49:35] When you feel burnout, allow yourself to feel it fully and take action relative to your experience.

[50:23] Dr. Rosenberg speaks about her book and how it can help.

[52:29] Thank you for being on the show!

[52:54] Michael shares some final thoughts.

[58:03] See you next time!

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CurePoint Orthopedic

Find Dr. Joan Rosenberg:

Dr. Rosenberg’s Website

The Mindstream Podcast

90 Seconds to a Life You Love: How to Master Your Difficult Feelings to Cultivate Lasting Confidence, Resilience and Authenticity

@drjrosenberg

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@DrJoanRosenberg

Twitter | Instagram

Quotes

“When an adult has emotional access to the pain they have experienced in their own childhood and they’ve made sense of their own experiences, they tend to be better at raising healthier children.” Dr. Joan Rosenberg

“We take the notion we’ve done poorly at something therefore I am a failure which is bad emotional math.” Dr. Joan Rosenberg

“Harsh self criticism is a thought hijack or distraction from unpleasant feelings.” Dr. Joan Rosenberg

“Once you know you can do it, then it helps you in the future.” Michael Bays

“Tears over a loss are a reflection of the depth of connection.” Dr. Joan Rosenberg

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"The sooner in life, you can establish your sentinel values, the straighter your path."

Listen as your hosts Dr. Michael Bays and Dr. Patrick Bays, discuss sentinel events, what they are, and how they can change your life path. Patrick shares his formula for dropping into the void, the three types of people in the world, how your decisions affect the people in your life and much more on this episode of The Hollow Tube.

Patrick speaks about Ethos, what Ethos is, and how important it is to take care of the type-one people around you. They share that in childhood, we have sentinel marks that affect our lives and reappear when triggered and how our minds are designed to process only information needed to take action.

Patrick also talks about internal perception and how we need to have a confident indifference when making decisions while standing on the precipice. Michael brings up the parallel of Patrick's formula to a 16th-century samurai and his five rings' battle. When you have had people in your childhood that have hurt you emotionally or physically, you need to bring healing to the child you once were and realize they can't hurt you anymore.

Listen, as Michael shares the three things he does when turbulence hits his life and threatens his type ones. They also point out that when there are no good decisions to be made, it's necessary to triage the issues and handle the most important first and work your way down the list instead of looking at them as a whole and getting overwhelmed.

Did you know that Michael shares his morning ritual every Wednesday morning on the Facebook Hollow Tube channel? It's called Sunrise Supercharge. Michael believes that the power is in the ritual, and the goal is to become a hollow tube, but you have to show up to practice to be successful.

Topics Discussed Today

[03:37] Patrick talks about sentinel events that alter our path in life.

[05:13] He speaks about the infinite number of doors you can go through in life and the importance of taking the time to decide which door to open.

[06:59] There are three types of people in the world.

[08:36] When deciding which door to open, you have to figure out how it will affect the type one people in your life.

[10:40] Patrick speaks about the second part of his formula, which is Ethos.

[13:11] The sooner in life, you can establish your sentinel values, the straighter your path.

[14:04] Ethos is the great arbitrator, the ultimate filter.

[17:03] In childhood, we all have sentinel marks that affect our world.

[19:55] Patrick speaks about the sphere of external perception and what it is.

[21:49] Patrick shares that our minds are designed to process only the information that is necessary to take action.

[23:23] Right now, in the world, we are trying to get rid of the biases that have become ingrained in our minds.

[25:16] Fear sells advertisements, which is why we are inundated with it.

[26:39] Listen as Patrick speaks about internal perception.

[29:15] When making some decisions while standing on the precipice, we need to have a confident indifference, non-judgemental indifference.

[32:11] Michael speaks about a 16th-century samurai and how what Patrick describes is the same thing he talked about in the five rings' battle.

[36:15] Have you had people in your life that have hurt you emotionally or physically?

[37:12] Patrick shares the responsibilities of type two people.

[40:47] Bring healing to that kid that you once were.

[42:30] Patrick speaks of the allegory of the cave.

[44:39] Michael shares the three things he focuses on when turbulent things happen in his life.

[47:00] Patrick believes that Michael describes what he called think keys.

[49:24] Sometimes, there are no good choices in life.

[50:57] Patrick speaks about how he would counsel a person who had no good choices in their life right now.

[54:05] Solve the immediate problem in front of you. Triage the problems and put the most important first.

[56:42] Micheal speaks about the morning ritual that keeps him centered.

[58:44] Michael gives his definition of ritual.

[1:02:02] He speaks about a sacred hoop where you are meeting the intelligence of God.

[1:04:54] Becoming a hollow tube is the goal, but you must show up for practice.

[1:06:42] Come see what it's all about every Wednesday morning on the Facebook Hollow Tube channel called a Sunrise Supercharge.

[1:08:41] Michael speaks about someone who contacted him about doing the ritual with him and how it helped.

[1:10:54] Thank you for listening!

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram

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Miyamoto Mushashi

The Book of Five Rings

Terracotta Army

Janus, the Roman god of beginnings and endings

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"Deluded thinking blurs our conscientiousness from being able to see things the way they are." Listen as hosts Michael and Patrick Bays, and friend and personal mentor Jack Elias discuss simple coping strategies we can take when we are feeling anxious, how can our emotions and feelings delude us, how can we use our external perception and internal perception to take the best action under any circumstance and much more on this episode of The Hollow Tube.

Jack is a Zen Buddhist practitioner and master hypnotherapist. Jack lives in Seattle, where he founded the Institute For Therapeutic Learning, and he teaches a certification program and Transpersonal Hypnotherapy and Neuro-Linguistic Programing. Jack was previously in episode 71, but we felt that this was a perfect time to bring him back because maybe we are all feeling a little stressed.

Jack shares that to mitigate these feelings of uncertainty and stress during this pandemic is to be kind, patient, and compassionate with yourself. Do you think emotions make you weak? Listen as Jack dispels that notion and explains why moralistic thinking makes it very hard to make changes.

"When in doubt, relax and repeat to yourself, fear never helps." Pat shares how he handles issues and needs to solve the problem in front of you first. Jack believes that we are in a hypnotic state all the time, and he describes the different hypnotic states. He also shares that when you are open to other realms, it is important to ask for precisely what you want.

Remember to be aware of hypnotizing thoughts and realize that we can waste a lot of energy and clarity of mind on worry and fear and when in doubt, when you are anxious or tense, use that state of being as a trigger to physically relax and tell yourself that fear never helps. Remember to repeat this mantra, "may my every thought, word, and deed be for the supreme benefit of myself and all beings."

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[09:15] Welcome to the show, Jack!

[10:41] Jack shares ways to mitigate some feelings of stress during these times of uncertainty.

[13:40] Have you been trained to think emotions make you weak?

[15:31] Jack believes that the first thing you can do when you are feeling anxiety is to relax and turn your attention inward.

[18:04] Jack says that moralistic thinking makes it very hard to make a change.

[20:53] Bravery is acting with clarity by moving the fear to the side as best you can.

[21:57] Pat shares how he has been dealing with coronavirus.

[24:23] Jack gives Michael some things to try when he feels fear about the pandemic.

[26:10] When in doubt, relax and repeat to yourself, fear never helps.

[28:31] Pat shares how he addresses an issue as he is sinking into the darkness.

[31:11] Having empathy has nothing to do with being afraid.

[34:11] Jack advises people to relax into your heart and ask what would be the best action to take. He explains what he means.

[37:11] Jack says that life is a gift, and you are being birthed moment by moment by life itself.

[40:02] Pat says to solve the problem that is in front of you.

[43:16] Are you so overwhelmed with taking care of the day to day that you can't see down the road?

[45:06] The heart is the center once the heartbeats you have life; once it stops, you have death.

[48:00] Jack speaks about self-hypnosis and meditation and how he feels we are hypnotized all the time.

[51:09] Listen, as Jack discusses how he sees the different hypnotic states.

[53:20] When you are open to other realms, it's essential to ask for precisely what you want.

[56:39] Michael speaks about the truth being irrelevant, its perception that matters.

[57:59] Jack shares about spending two years in court around a big corporation.

[1:00:45] Michael talks about teaching doctors about gaining credibility.

[1:02:21] Jack shares things we all can do to stay in our heart space and relax during this time of stress and uncertainty.

[1:04:33] Jack speaks about his in-person workshops that have been put on hold during this pandemic.

[1:06:26] Thank you for being on the show!

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram

Michael Bays on Facebook

The Hollow Tube Facebook Page

CurePoint Orthopedic

Find Jack:

Jack Elias

Email

Finding True Magic by Jack Elias

Jack Elias on Twitter

Jack Elias on Facebook

Jack Elias on LinkedIn

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Have you ever felt that life was knocking you down faster than you could get up? Listen as Michael and his guest Sandra Ingerman, one of the best-known shamans in the western world, discuss her incredible journey to shamanism, what shamanism is, and much more on this episode of The Hollow Tube.

Sandra is a world-renown teacher of shamanism and has been lecturing and teaching for almost forty years. She is an award-winning author of twelve books including Awakening Into The Spirit World, Soul Retrieval, Medicine For The Earth, and her latest book The Book of Ceremony. Sandra is also the co-host of the podcast The Shaman’s Cave.

Listen as Sandra shares how she found shamanism and why she dedicated her life to serving people, the healing methods that the helping spirits bring to the shaman, and how children are taught the discipline of how to speak words of power. Shamanism teaches that our thoughts act as psychic darts so you have to be careful of what you put out in the universe.

“Ceremony is the vehicle for the shaman to create change,” Sandra speaks about the difference between ritual and ceremony, how to learn forgiveness for people who have wronged you in the most terrible ways, how to forgive those who have passed and most of all how to forgive ourselves. Sandra shares some tools that we all have that can help us lead a shamanic life, but the greatest tool is to get into the flow.

Have you ever asked a tree if it was ok for you to sit under its branches? Or asked the tree about its life? Sandra says once you can open yourself up and commune with nature you will find a peacefulness that you can’t imagine. What we have learned from Sandra today is priceless, her shamanic life is one of giving, healing, and nature. You definitely don't want to miss this episode.

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[07:52] Welcome to the show, Sandra!

[08:04] Sandra shares how she found and dedicated her life to shamanism.

[10:25] She speaks about moving to San Francisco and living in a cult in the ’70s.

[11:25] Sandra took a workshop on shamanic journeying.

[12:40] What is shamanism?

[15:15] Sandra shares the healing methods that the helping spirits will bring to the shaman.

[16:34] Shamanism is a way of life.

[18:07] Children were taught the discipline of how to speak words of power and medicine.

[19:44] Shamanism believes that our thoughts can act as psychic darts.

[21:35] Nature is like family members to shamans which is how they keep harmony and balance.

[22:28] What is the difference between ceremony and ritual?

[24:14] Sandra doesn’t have doubts about shamanism but she didn’t realize that once she stepped onto this path that her life was no longer her own.

[26:33] She is passionate about her work and is happy she has been able to help so many people.

[28:40] Sandra is trying to figure out how to teach this new generation of shamanism.

[30:20] Can you share about the forgiveness of shamanism?

[33:13] How can people learn to forgive people who have done horrible things to them?

[34:50] Sandra shares how you can forgive someone who has already passed.

[36:46] Sandra speaks about learning to forgive ourselves.

[39:07] She talks about a violent dream she once had.

[41:18] What tools do we have to lead a shamanic life?

[44:08] Riding the river of life is learning how to think in a way that leads you to your outcome.

[45:54] Sandra shares a practice for us to do that has changed many people's lives.

[48:45] The greatest tool for being able to create your desires is getting into the flow.

[50:02] Once you find your own flow there's not that much that can’t be manifested.

[51:01] How do we know when we are in the flow state?

[53:37] Michael shares about his nephew and his medical situation.

[56:38] Is there anything you would like to leave us with?

[58:28] Thank you for being on the show, Sandra!

[58:42] Michael shares some final thoughts about nature.

[59:40] Ritual is an attention amplifier.

[1:00:17] A ceremony is bigger, a special occasion with a before and after.

[1:00:48] Be sure to reach out to Sandra and let her know what you have learned so we can get her back on the show.

[1:02:01] Michael and Pat want to thank all of you for your support.

[1:02:34] If you want to see the sunrise ritual that has changed Michael’s life check out Sunrise Supercharge every Wednesday morning at sunrise MST but if you miss it go to The Hollow Tube podcast page on Facebook Live.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram

Michael Bays on Facebook

The Hollow Tube Facebook Page

CurePoint Orthopedic

Find Sandra:

Sandra Ingerman

Global Website of Shamanic Teachers and Practitioners

The Shamans Cave

Books

Awakening The Spirit World

Soul Retrieval

Medicine For The Earth

The Book of Ceremony

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Are you living your Soul's purpose? Do you believe you have a soul? Do you know what your soul looks like and sounds like? Do you know what your soul wants for you? I never thought much about my soul or my soul's purpose until my shaman friend Jose told me that in a certain dimensional state our soul takes the form of a crystal. Your crystal soul records everything that's ever happened to you. I wanted to explore deeper into the topic of souls, and so I decided to bring an expert on spirits and souls on the show today.

Shellie Nelson is highly intuitive and she's been seeing energy, spirits and ghosts her whole life. She sees dead people… and souls... among other things. Shellie knew she was different when she was 8 and a malevolent spirit did its best to scare the hell out of her- and over the past 23 years she’s honed her special gifts into one master skill. She has the ability to see the soul of a person. It’s her desire to help people bring the greatness of their soul into their human awareness and physical life and live it.

I met Shellie and her partner Jim at a workshop they gave a couple of years ago- and I noticed two things. I immediately felt a connection with them and when Shellie spoke, I got goosebumps- which means that deepest part of me knows that what I’m hearing is the truth and to pay attention. On this episode of The Hollow Tube, Shellie will explain how a little girl who was terrorized by an evil spirit grew up to be an inter dimensional communicator.

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[10:52] Shellie grew up in a small town in Wisconsin. She found she was hiding who she was or just not talking about it with other people.

[11:22] When she was eight she had an experience that taught her that she was very different from other people.

[11:44] She is able to see the unseen world including ghosts, energy, and aliens.

[12:18] I believe we're all creators and can create personas of ourselves and move between them.

[12:40] She had an adorable canopy bed when she was eight. She was lying in bed and saw what appeared to be a woman lying on top of the canopy. The woman's head was bobbing in and out of the canopy. She was so scared she couldn't scream, no matter how hard she tried. The woman's head mocked her.

[13:58] Eventually, she screamed and her mom came in and turned on the light. Shellie could still see the lady.

[14:41] Her mother calmly asked if she could still see her. She described her to her mother. Her mother said I believe you, but I don't know how to help you.

[16:11] Her mother found people who could help her. These people had avenues into alternative modes of healing and energy work.

[17:00] These same healer's that Shellie's mother found to help Shellie eventually helped her mother when she was diagnosed with MS.

[18:00] This became a journey of empowerment for her mother.

[19:14] Shellie got to attend these workshops with her mother, and she learned how to process energy at a very young age.

[20:30] Her mother radically changed her diet to no sugar and eating raw foods and whole foods.

[21:27] Eventually, her parents divorced.

[26:50] Her mother was committed to defeating MS. Her physical symptoms reversed. She is now in her seventies.

[30:01] Shellie's ability to see energy has evolved. She had to learn how to have boundaries. She couldn't be open to spirits and energy all of the time.

[31:14] The unseen world has taught her more about boundaries than any human being ever could.

[31:35] She is now strong within herself and learned to say no. She asks herself if the thought is something that she would create.

[33:37] She could talk and command telepathically, and they would hear her.

[35:11] Should learned to look for the spark of life force. She could laugh in the face of demons.

[36:35] She now has the ability to see the soul of a person. Behind a person is their soul self and life force. She tunes into and connects with that energy.

[37:51] She sees a soul signature from their energy.

[45:11] We have to let go and emerge and become a different version of ourselves. Shellie knows she isn't alone, and there are other people like her who hear and feel things.

[47:39] We have chosen our parents with DNA that will give us the greatest strength.

[49:07] We need to stop processing and trying to overcome and get on with the living.

[49:23] We are here in our bodies to grow, expand, and learn.

[50:28] People can get caught in processing where healing is almost like a habit.

[54:20] When you have a life spark of energy, that's your soul speaking to you. It's not a fantasy.

[54:40] When your soul speaks to you, it feels like you're just making it up. Your intuition is trying to speak to you. The desire will come back and keep speaking to you.

[58:05] She invites people to experience who they are on the other side. Eventually, they have transformation amnesia and forget how they were before. Ultimately at the core soul level, that was never their way of being.

[01:01:01] Her work is about freeing people up and freeing their souls.

[01:02:25] We are continually creating all of the time with our minds and our energy. We can call our energy back into our core frequency at any time.

[01:11:54] As we take steps and strengthen, our circle of influence begins to change.

[01:13:07] There will be people who aren't a match to the new you. Love them as they leave.

[01:20:52] Say no to negative self-talk and sit in to the pillar of life that you are.

[01:28:35] Shellie offers sessions to some clients, and she even has them with her son.

[01:30:19] She has dialogue with her soul every morning, yet she is surprised by the profound changes she sees people have.

[01:35:41] It was interesting how much correlation there was between what Shellie said and what my Shaman friend Jose said.

[01:40:19] Practice breathing and gratitude every morning. I walk you through the process.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram

Michael Bays on Facebook

The Hollow Tube Facebook Page

Episode 72 – The Cave We Fear to Enter to Find the Treasure We Seek with Dr. Dan Engle

Episode 71- Finding True Magic with Jack Elias

Episode 70 – Toltec Shamanism, Researching the Paranormal and Time Travel with Marcus Leader

Shellie Nelson Download The 5 Soul Superpowers

Shellie Nelson on Facebook

Curpoint Orthopedic

Quotes:

“I'm seeing the unseen world. I've seen energy, ghosts, and interdimensional beings.” Shellie Nelson

“I could even look at people and see many faces in their face. I could see many different personas of the different people walking around.” Shellie Nelson

“The unseen world has taught me more about boundaries than any human being ever could.” Shellie Nelson

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Have you ever felt vulnerable? What do you think of when you hear the word vulnerability? Do you think of insecurity or uncertainty or being exposed to danger? Do you think of weakness, fear, hurt, or betrayal? Do you think of courage or strength? I've been thinking a lot about vulnerability lately. This podcast has been sitting on my desktop since we recorded it a year ago. When I played this podcast again, I realized it might be somewhat controversial.

That made me feel vulnerable. I put this episode on the back burner for a few more days, then something happened that caused me to make a cosmic shift. I got the news that my 11 year old nephew Cameron was in the Pediatric ICU at Tucson Medical Center with a dangerously high blood sugar of over four hundred. The working diagnosis was type 1 or juvenile onset diabetes which means a lifetime of monitoring blood sugar and insulin injections.

When I arrived at the hospital, I saw him lying under a sheet looking vulnerable. Cameron then said, "I'm sorry I did this to myself Uncle Mickey." He didn't do anything. Type 1 diabetes occurs when your immune system attacks and destroys the insulin-producing beta cells in the pancreas. Scientists think it's caused by a genetic abnormality or environmental factors like a virus. It's not caused by eating too much sugar.

Cameron is an extremely bright and sensitive kid who has not had the easiest childhood. I explained that he didn't do anything, and it wasn't his fault. He was so scared and asked me a million questions while keeping an eye on the nurse preparing his IV. I did my best to reassure him and remind him that it's always worse in your head. The pediatric nurses were the best and spoke to Cameron on his level.

He breezed through the IV. The next day after work I went back to visit Cameron. I saw an immediate shift in him. He looked confident and relaxed. I remembered that when we go through a trauma we experience the phases of grief, which are denial, anger, bargaining, depression, and finally acceptance. He had reached acceptance and took his destiny into his own hands. He calculated the carbohydrate load of his dinner, checked his blood sugar, calculated his insulin dosage, and gave himself an injection.

He taught me what a character-building thing vulnerability can be when we embrace it. I kept thinking about the symbolism of vulnerability represented as a cave or a hollow tube. Today's guest has walked through the dark tunnel of vulnerability once or twice in his life. He showed up to his first day of class in medical school with a broken neck and a stainless steel halo brace bolted to his skull. He went on to Magna Cum Laude from the University of Texas Health Sciences in San Antonio. He earned a double board certification in psychiatry and neurology. He's an integrated neuropsychiatrist and peak performance expert. He's the author of The Concussion Repair Manual. It’s his goal to facilitate the innate healing of the body and the mind.

I met doctor Dan at a meditation Workshop. The best way I can describe him is that he's a brilliant classically trained physician with an open heart and an open mind. He's lived in an ashram. He's been in sweat lodges, on vision quests, and the grueling Lakota Sun Dance. He spent a year barefoot in the jungle of Peru studying with a shaman. On this episode, he's going to tell us about the split-second decision he made one hot summer day just before medical school that nearly killed him and changed his life forever.

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[15:07] Dr. Dan had gone to Europe in between college and medical school. He got back two weeks before med school was going to begin. He went down to the pier and dove head first off a railing about 15 feet off of the ground. He dove straight in with his hands behind his neck.

[16:31] As soon as he entered the water his head hit the ground and split open. He climbed back up the pier and walked home and by the time he got home he was in shock.

[17:55] He was super lucky and was one of the 5% of people who can go through that and not become paralyzed.

[22:56] He was so driven in high school and college, but he slowed down after medical school.

[26:45] Patterns develop and trauma gets passed on through DNA. Trauma patterns will get expressed generationally.

[28:59] Healing ourselves will influence our ancestors.

[31:13] 85% of our personalities are set by the time we're 5 or 6 years old. The personality construct is molded while we're neurologically and psychologically plastic.

[32:35] Kids think they're the center of the universe, which means that everything happening is their fault.

[35:24] We all have different archetypes. If we know what those archetypes are we can honor each piece of our self.

[37:32] We all have different aspects and that polarity is what drives us into different relationships.

[37:47] When we're more balanced and harmonious within ourselves, we can experience balanced and harmonious relationships with others. Because we aren't necessarily looking outside for others to complete us.

[39:53] Everything is sacred through the image of that thread of connectivity.

[40:33] Dr. Dan moved to Portland. He was studying Buddhism. He discovered the connection to the Earth that Native American medicine has.

[41:39] He started going to sweat lodges when he was in Portland. He then got into Lakota medicine. He founds so much resonance in the ritual, practice, songs, and prayer.

[42:17] He enjoyed surfing his consciousness on the edge of this experience.

[42:55] He then discovered ayahuasca. Two plants are combined to create the waking dream.

[44:00] It's a tradition of the Amazon River basin. The medicine creates a neurochemical reset. It's also a mind-altering hallucinogen that opens up consciousness.

[45:16] There's life before and after medicine.

[48:06] After Michael's, ayahuasca experience he feels that he became the man that he was meant to be.

[51:52] Dr. Dan lived in the jungle for a year. He discovered integrity and being an integrated and whole person.

[56:51] Dr. Dan works with clients using cannabis and ketamine. There are also other natural medicines that have massive clinical benefit, but aren't likely to become legal anytime soon.

[57:46] Challenges include using these medicines in a way that is sustainable.

[01:00:23] MDMA can open up the heart and mind to heal trauma. The memory can come up and be processed and worked with and through and integrated. It breaks the pattern.

[01:02:35] It's not always easy to integrate breakthrough experiences back into the daily routine.

[01:04:50] Doing work through a sense of martyrdom is not sustainable. The source of service needs to come from a place of integrity.

[01:07:52] At one side of vulnerability is courage. Our greatest potential lies in the unknown. Our strength and power light at the other side of vulnerability.

[01:08:18] I cannot and do not recommend that anybody take any illegal mind-altering substances.

[01:09:19] What I went through 15 years ago was the most physically demanding and absolutely terrifying thing I ever went through in my life. The shamans call it the little death for a reason. We're forced to face the stuff that we never want to look at.

[01:09:55] The real work and the hard work started what I got home. I'm still working and practicing every day.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram

Michael Bays on Facebook

The Hollow Tube Facebook Page

Brene Brown

Helen Keller

Dr. Dan Engle

The Concussion Repair Manual

Episode 071- Finding True Magic with Jack Elias

Viktor Frankl

Frank Fools Crow

MAPS

From Shock to Awe

Jordan B. Peterson

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There is a quote that’s attributed to the Austrian neuropsychiatrist and holocaust survivor, Dr. Viktor Frankl that goes, “Between stimulus and response there is a space. And in that space is our power to choose our response. And in our response lies our growth and our freedom.”

I love this quote. It's the perfect quote. It's simple. It makes sense intuitively, and it’s true. The problem is Viktor Frankl never said it. I’m pretty sure the self-help writer Steven Covey did, and it sort of got misattributed to Viktor Frankl over the years. It’s become one of those “Luke I’m your father thing’s.” Darth Vader never said that either

I still love that quote, and I wish I would have remembered it the other day when I got triggered by something and I totally lost it with someone I’m supposed to love. In the moment, I felt like I had been betrayed and disrespected, and so I got angry and freaked out. I launched into a tirade and said a bunch of mean and cruel things… until I finally caught myself. By then it was too late. It took a few apologies and about a week to get over that one.

Things are better now, but some things can’t be unsaid. Whaat? You? Mr Zen. Mr Hollow Tube. Yeah me, except it was more like Dr Jekyll and Mr Hyde at least in that moment. I did the exact opposite of what our hero Viktor Frankl would have wanted me to do. I didn’t slow down and create some space and respond consciously. I reacted unconsciously, reflexively. I tensed up and lashed out.

That night I laid awake in bed thinking “Where the hell is this all coming from?” Where do any of our insecurities, indignation, self doubt, unconscious pathology, and patterns of behavior come from? What is is that is keeps us from being a Hollow Tube or a pure open channel and a manifestation of creation flowing through life with joy, awareness and gratitude? Well that’s the million dollar question. Isn’t it?

That’s why we're here to figure it out. In the Hollow Tube, we know that we ask, and we shall receive. On this episode, our guest that will answer all of those questions and more. Jack Elias is a Zen Buddhist master and the founder of The Institute for Therapeutic Learning in Seattle, Washington. Where he teaches a certification program in transpersonal hypnotherapy and NLP or neuro linguistic programming.

He’s also the author of the book, Finding True Magic: Transpersonal Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy/NLP.

I met Jack at a workshop in Scottsdale, AZ hosted by some good friends of mine. All they said was, come meet Jack. It's going to be life changing. I was like, yeah, I don’t know. I’m kinda busy. It sounds expensive, and I don’t really feel like driving to Scottsdale. My friend says, “thats cool. If you’re not feeling called, we’ll just give your spot to someone else.”

I changed my mind and went. Those two and a half days with Jack were life changing, and now Jack is my personal “life coach.” Listen to this podcast carefully and you’ll understand why.

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[08:00] In 1965, during Jack's freshman year of college, he started reading a book about Zen stories and realized that he was home.

[10:21] He discovered that he had a pain or unnoticed missing connection.

[10:55] In 1967, he went to San Francisco where he met Shunryu Suzuki.

[12:05] He went to Colorado to study. In 1986, his daughter was diagnosed with an incurable illness.

[12:56] He went to Seattle, and everything fell into place.

[14:03] He had an interest in hypnosis and took an NLP class in 1980.

[15:05] He had lost everything, and it was time to start a new career. He taught as well as being a student.

[17:31] NLP is a packaging of wisdom primarily from hypnosis.

[20:45] We're manifestations of life itself. We are natural healthy and thriving.

[21:06] We are like waves on an ocean. The waves are not independent of the ocean.

[21:30] The billions of things going from the galaxies, billions of stars, to the supernovas to the insects and earthworms is one unified gesture.

[22:04] Thoughts dumb down our perceptual awareness.

[23:19] We used our thoughts to numb ourselves to the pain and trauma we were experiencing growing up.

[25:02] As children, life unconsciously expresses itself. At a certain point we get socialized by adults who have lost their spontaneity, with their own ideas of what’s good, bad, right or wrong and proper, and generations of unconscious patterns and trauma.

[27:02] Children accumulate self attacking judgments.

[28:46] Children learn to hate their own joyful nature and their true identity.

[29:17] Stories are hypnotic suggestions.

[33:10] To manifest your motivation in your life, get your house in order and reconnect with your own good heart.

[33:45] It requires humility and courage to become curious.

[35:30] Notice that you are being suggestible and develop space.

[36:52] When you're not ruled by rage, you can start negotiating how to work out the situation. You have to develop awareness.

[39:48] There's no such thing as a break. You're either making a loving gesture towards yourself or a hateful gesture towards yourself.

[44:48] We can have a diluted notion of causality which can create disagreements and fights.

[47:54] We need to take responsibility and agency over our emotional life and stop blaming people. Blame is a delusion.

[50:57] Don't get bound by ideas of how things are. Doctors are notorious for giving patients hypnotic suggestions. We have a boundless capacity to heal if we let our minds be free.

[53:38] Ask what it would be like to heal. They must go there to think about it.

[56:04] Everything is produced by thinking, so it's helpful to drift into curious inquiry.

[01:00:02] Hateful thoughts are from other sources.

[01:01:10] To get to a state of relaxation, practice awareness and be open.

[01:04:27] Take some kind to study loving kindness in other people and practice it. Say something encouraging regardless of the activity. Talk to the being.

[01:09:35] We honor the gift of our lives by paying attention to it. That's awareness.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram

Michael Bays on Facebook

The Hollow Tube Facebook Page

Dr. Viktor Frankl

Steven Covey

Episode 070 – Toltec Shamanism, Researching the Paranormal and Time Travel with Marcus Leader

Zen Mind, Beginner's Mind: Informal Talks on Zen Meditation and Practice

Finding True Magic

Finding True Magic: Transpersonal Hypnosis and Hypnotherapy/NLP

Jack Elias YouTube

Steve Anderson

CurPoint

Quotes:

"We’re still being ruled by a speedy, fear-based mind, that was formulated out of broken heartedness." Jack Elias

“NLP is a packaging of wisdom primarily from hypnosis.” Jack Elias

“The root tenet of Buddhism is that we're inherently pure.” Jack Elias

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Have you ever been interested in the paranormal, ghosts or ESP? Have you ever considered that there's something powerful and mysterious just beyond our perception? Have you wondered if there are individuals who can tap into that power? I used to wish that I could meet someone like that who can teach me the secrets of what is really possible. In The Hollow Tube, we know that when we ask we receive. We must ask intelligently for exactly what we want.

When I was a little kid, my grandmother would say everyone has a little ESP. You just need to practice. I believed her, and I wanted to know more. I scoured the stacks of books at Scottsdale library reading anything I could find on paranormal phenomena, non-ordinary reality, spirituality, and life after death. When I was a teenager, I discovered The Teachings of Don Juan by Carlos Castaneda.

I felt a connection with this book, because almost all of the events described took place practically in my backyard of Sonora, Mexico. I devoured every one of his books and hoped to meet a teacher like Don Juan. Critics said, “he made it up.” There was no Don Juan. I was so disappointed when I found this out. I forgot all about Carlos Castaneda. I put away all that crazy stuff. As it turns out, he was real and some of his descendants even live here in Arizona.

My guest today was an apprentice for Carlos. For eight years, Carlos taught Marcus Leader the secrets of the Toltec shamanic path. Marcus is a researcher, author, and the host of The Shaman’s Brew Podcast. He is in the process of publishing a series of books on shamanic teaching. He is also a scientific researcher of the paranormal with the goal of proving the phenomena through science. Some of the tools he has created have been used on shows like Ghost Hunters and Ghost Adventures. It’s an honor and a privilege to have him on the show today.

Topics Discussed Today

[14:13] Marcus is retired and in the process of getting his books published. It's going to be a series of books talking about Toltec shamanism of his lineage.

[14:39] He also conducts research into finding scientific proof behind the paranormal. Some of the devices he has created have been seen on the TV shows Ghost Hunters and Ghost Adventures.

[15:06] The paranormal is ghosts and different aspects of the spiritual world. ESP and clairvoyance are also considered part of the paranormal. A lot of people refer to the paranormal as ghost hunting.

[16:44] A lot of the ghost hunting equipment are appliance repair tools. It's hard to detect spirits, but you can detect resonance. EMF meters can detect a spike of energy in our field.

[19:34] Attachments are when electrons actually change the direction that they spin. This can be detected with tools.

[20:40] Marcus has recorded some voice captures. He's working on a tool that uses magnetic fields.

[22:56] He's trying to find scientific evidence to show that the paranormal exists.

[24:02] Carlos Castaneda was an anthropology major at UCLA. He made a Yaqui Shaman named Don Juan. Carlos became Don Juan's apprentice.

[28:00] Carlos wrote about the knowledge, not how to. He still has a following of 35 million.

[30:04] Marcus wants to get permission to release the core how to knowledge.

[31:54] Marcus saw a big crow walking down the street with a lit cigarette in his mouth. Crows are his omen.

[33:37] A crow dropped an acorn in his tea.

[34:38] When more people become aware and do things like meditation, it creates a conduit.

[36:06] The next stage of evolution will be human light.

[38:20] All human interaction is about energy in one way or the other.

[40:25] You have to perceive energy and how it flows back and forth.

[42:49] All living things have energy exchanges. Marcus can see energy around people and things.

[47:16] There are a lot of anthropological sites in the southwest.

[49:41] Marcus met Carlos Castaneda while doing research. They had lunch. Then didn't see each other until they bump into each other later on. The spirit had pointed Marcus out to be a student of Carlos.

[01:00:53] Toltec shamans can project their consciousness into the double. The double is a little bit bigger than the human body.

[01:03:01] Marcus was talking to Carlos, but it was his double.

[01:06:27] A lot of shamans can reach a state of extreme clarity. They have to shift their awareness to a higher frequency.

[01:11:18] A lot of people have doubted Carlos, but Marcus knows that he's the real deal. Carlos proved it to him, and taught him about time and the manipulation of time.

[01:14:45] Marcus shares about going back in time and different dimensions and timelines.

[01:15:52] We perceive time as a linear event, but everything happens at the same time.

[01:20:20] The biggest change that has happened to Marcus, since he met Carlos was his perception of the world has changed. He doesn't have any enemies, because he's learned how to interact with people. His energy field is in alignment and resonates with the people he is around.

[01:23:08] Seeing the world the way it really is and not wasting energy is beneficial. The more personal energy you can build up, the healthier you will be.

[01:24:28] Once you learn how to use this energy, you can communicate with the world around you.

[01:27:58] Human interaction is the battle for energy. Eventually, we will all get along better.

[01:32:18] The best thing for Michael and this podcast is getting to meet and know his hero's. He's now obsessed with the thought of time travel.

[01:34:25] Michael shares time casting from The Shaman's Brew Episode 186.

[01:38:58] Michael gives a shout out to JT Odneal from Episode 68 who is no longer with us.

[01:40:20] Uncle Pat will be back soon!

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The Teachings of Don Juan: A Yaqui Way of Knowledge

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The Southwest’s Best Ancient Sites

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The Shaman's Brew Episode 186

Episode 68 – The UFO Hunter- JT Odneal

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Have you or has anyone you know struggled with addiction? According to Dr. Gabor Mate, an addiction is any behavior that a person craves and finds temporary pleasure or relief in the short-term but suffers negative consequences in the long term and is unable to give up. We can be addicted to anything from our cell phones, Internet, TV, gaming, caffeine, sugar, eating, exercising, physical beauty, shopping, hoarding, work, success, fame, power, money, porn, sex, drugs, alcohol, toxic and co-dependent relationships, and even judgement, hatred, and suffering.

Addictions are continuous on a spectrum and ubiquitous throughout our society. Most of us are addicted to something. At least a little and sometimes a lot. Many of us including myself have questionable relationships with our cell phones. Next time you lose your phone, ask yourself if that isn't true? Our addictions can cost us everything from our health, wealth, relationships, jobs, beauty, spirit, and even our teeth.

I've had challenges with some of those things. About 25 years ago, when I was a young surgeon, I came home and found a note from my wife saying that she had left me. I stopped sleeping and looked thin and terrible. I hired a trainer. I started working out and taking steroids. I also drank at night and looked for love in all the wrong places. I was broken. Several years later, when I nearly lost everything again, I quit blaming everything and everyone else, and I took a good look at myself.

I faced reality, took responsibility, and made a decision to clean up my act. Now I learn from my mistakes and ask questions about how I got here and why these things started. One of the people who helped me answer these questions was our guest today. I met him at a shamanic retreat in Columbia. Dean Taraborelli is one of my wisest and most trusted advisers, and it's an honor to have him on the show today.

He is a founder and counselor at The Sanctuary at Sedona a world-class addiction and recovery center. He's also one of the senior teaching staff at the Four Winds Society an International School of Energy Medicine. He's traveled extensively to sacred sites in at least 60 countries all over the world to study mythology, religion, spirituality, wisdom traditions, Indigenous healing, and wellness practices. We are fortunate to have Dean on the show to share his great wisdom with us.

Topics Discussed Today
[10:36] Dean started smoking pot when he was 12 years old. He then moved on to alcohol, and his first trip to rehab happened when he was in his early twenties.
[11:42] He began identifying as an alcoholic. Identities are based on belief systems which become the self-fulfilling prophecies of our lives.
[13:18] A few years later, he had a relapse and began taking 100 Percocet a day. He went to rehab again, and then moved on to heroin.
[14:36] Dean went to some very dark places including having overdoses and being hospitalized.
[18:01] There's shame involved when we have problems and we keep them hidden.
[18:22] Dean's life had reached a critical point, and he went to his last treatment center and realized it wasn't working for him or the other people there.
[20:05] Dean had been to so many treatment centers that he realized he had 30 years of treatment training. The vision for The Sanctuary just came to him and was planted in his mind.
[21:55] Dean wanted addiction to fall into the category of curable. When he first went to Sedona everything was trial and error. He was exploring how all of the systems in the body come together for wellness or sickness.
[23:06] Shamanism is the oldest philosophy on the planet. It's really just the observation of our relationship with nature.
[24:54] Dean heard Alberto Villoldo speak, and it really resonated with him.
[25:45] Energy medicine is one of Dean's primary modalities.
[26:14] Electricity creates a field and everything down line is affected. Our bodies and nerves also generate energy. The field of energy around our body affects our health the same way our immune system affects our health.
[27:50] Our energy system directly translates energy from our environment into our bodies.
[30:21] Staying stressed longer than you need to becomes a killer and manifests itself as disease.
[32:39] We are integrated beings. We need to take an integrated approach for our health, including mind, body, soul, and spirit.
[36:05] The mind and body and soul have their own languages.
[37:11] The meaning that we assign things determines our life's experience.
[43:00] Technology is amazing, but we have become less connected with each other physically.
[46:28] We need to look at what we think is valuable and also look at the system.
[49:56] True healing happens when we take the power back.
[51:58] At the most rudimentary level, humans seek pleasure and avoid pain.
[53:13] Everything we do has to do with how we feel about ourselves and the world around us.
[56:57] We get our beliefs from things we learn, and we get them from life experience.
[01:03:41] We have to work in a holistic way to change our patterns of belief. The first thing we need to do is take a look at our lives and see if we are living the life that we truly dream about.
[01:04:36] We need to live our lives on our terms, and if not understand that we have the power to do something about that.
[01:06:47] Try something new to get a new result.
[01:11:28] Addiction was the greatest journey of Dean's life and it led him to his destiny of running The Sanctuary.
[01:14:13] Our life and our health is a journey, and we are always evolving.
[01:21:08] Blaming your parents is never going to bring you healing or recovery.
[01:22:01] We have to make the decision to let go of the past and take at least one step forward towards our future self.

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Dr. Gabor Mate
Episode 66 – Jedi Mind Tricks with FBI Hostage Negotiator Chris Voss
The Sanctuary at Sedona
The Four Winds Society
The Sanctuary at Sedona on Facebook
The Sanctuary at Sedona on Instagram
The Sanctuary at Sedona on Twitter

Quotes:
“I got involved with the Sanctuary and addiction very much through my own journey.” Dean Taraborelli
“Identities are based on belief systems. Belief systems become the self-fulfilling prophecies of our lives.” Dean Taraborelli
“When we are in balance with nature, we can be in balance with our inner nature.” Dean Taraborelli
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UFO’s have been igniting the hearts and imaginations of humans since the dawn of time. Have you ever had an other worldly experience? Have you ever seen something in the night sky that you just couldn’t identify? Have you seen a UFO or an unidentified aerial phenomena?

Today’s guest is JT Odneal. JT is someone who I’ve known for 10 years. He is a friend and a patient. He’s a retired rancher, a Navy veteran, a published author and poet. He is also someone who I’ve only known to speak the truth. The story we tell today has not wavered.

On a September morning in 1987, a UFO nearly crash landed on top of him. JT said it was starting to get cool out and it was time to cut firewood for the fireplace back at the ranch house, so JT and his hand Jose’ set out in the pickup to cut some oak in the back pastures at his cattle ranch in the Dragoon Mountains of Southern Arizona when it happened. In this episode, JT will finish the rest of the story, and I share my experience going back to the exact same spot.

Topics Discussed Today

[09:31] JT is 89 years old and grew up in Colorado in Mesa County. He moved to Arizona in 1962.

[10:07] He was an engineer in the Navy.

[12:06] JT bought a ranch in Cochise county.

[14:20] During September 1987, JT and a worker were going out to chop wood. They had to go through three gates to get to the corrals.

[16:03] As JT drove through the gate, he saw an object fly straight from the sun and into the ground. As he drove up the hill, he saw the object just hanging in the air with a cable dragging on the ground. JT and his worker watched it for about 10 minutes.

[23:19] JT took his rifle and decided to walk under the hovering object. As he walked up, it flew away at a high rate of speed. JT took a shot at it as it flew about a mile away. Then it hovered and then just flew away.

[28:09] The next morning, JT's neighbor, Charley said he also saw one of the objects that JT saw.

[33:13] The news reported lights east of Tombstone. Then JT received a call from the air force, and the representative told JT that what he saw was a scout for a bigger UFO.

[37:52] One morning a couple of jets buzzed JT's house and then the air force had the road blocked off. Later he found out one of the jets crashed.

[40:38] JT has no reason to make this story up. He does think that there are aliens out there.

[42:18] JT shares life advice. Every person should find out as quickly as they can what their given capabilities are and get educated and live to be happy and not worry about anything else. Take the future as it comes and enjoy life. Everything else is inconsequential.

[45:24] We should also take a good hard look at what we are doing to the Constitution. Individuals should be responsible for their own actions and needs.

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067 – Life on Purpose with Victor Strecher, PhD

Cow Dogs to Outer Space Craft

J.T.'s Cookbook

Come Fly with Me

Joe Rogan Experience #1315 - Bob Lazar & Jeremy Corbell

Quotes:

“UFOs are not cosmic visitors from other planets but psychic disturbances from our collective unconscious and that increased reports of UFOs coincides with periods when we believe that the world is fragmented and on the brink of catastrophe.” Carl Jung

“The idea that we are alone in the universe seems to me completely implausible and arrogant. Considering the number of planets and stars that we know exist, it's extremely unlikely that we are the only form of evolved life.” Steven Hawking

“The Dragoon Mountains are the rarest place in the United States for geological formations. This may be what attracted them.” JT Odneal

“If all people are doing something, chances are, it's wrong and not a good decision.” JT Odneal

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Have you ever asked yourself, “What's my purpose in life? Why am I here? Is this all there is?”

Every summer, for at least the past ten years, I take my son Parker for a father-son-trip to Seattle, Washington to visit good Ol' Uncle Pat. It’s sort of a tradition we call the “The Seattle Download.” Because it’s our chance to pour every bit of advice, wisdom, fight and adventure story, bad mistake and lesson learned, we’ve got into him.

He’s ours for a week and we don’t hold anything back from the minute Uncle Pat picks us up at the airport in his black BMW 750i until he drops us off a week later. We’ve got a routine, in the mornings we pour ourselves some Storyville coffee, which is a supercool coffee company near Pat’s house on Bainbridge, Island. Then we fill up the bird feeders and sprinkle some critter food on the railing of Uncle Pat’s back deck overlooking Puget Sound and the Seattle skyline, which is the signal for every bird, chipmunk and squirrel on the Island to come in for breakfast.

So we’re sitting sipping coffee, listening to the gentle sounds of nature, watching the yellow finches and the cute little red squirrels nibble away at sunflower seeds.

We’re just breathing in that crisp, cool, Pacific Northwest air, listening to the birds or some 70’s soft rock, mesmerized by the ever changing view of sail boats, cruise ships and freighters just silently gliding in and out of the harbor, and we download everything we’ve got, over 100 years of combined life experience, into Parker’s brain.

We try to get Parker to project himself in the future, 5 or 10 years, and to sort of try on a day-in-the-life of his future self. Kind of like Neo and Morpheus in the Construct. We start with a blank slate and fill in all the details. And not just the material stuff, we really try to get him reflect on things like personal values, purpose and his overall path in life. Today’s guest is a living example of living life on purpose. He even wrote a book on it.

On this episode of the Hollow Tube, we bring you the legendary, Dr. Victor J. Strecher.

Dr. Strecher is a decorated professor at the University of Michigan. He’s a successful entrepreneur, and author of the outstanding book, "Life on Purpose- How Living for What Matters Most Changes Everything." He'll tell us about the sentinel event that nearly broke him and the amazing circumstances that put him back on his path– of purpose.

Dr. Strecher’s going to tell us what purpose is, why it’s important to have a purpose and how we can find our purpose. And he’ll back it all up with latest research that proves why having a purpose is good for us. After listening to Dr. Strecher, Pat and I both agreed that this was one of the most important and potentially life changing conversations we’ve ever had. And now ladies and gentlemen, please welcome to The Hollow Tube, Dr. Victor Strecher.

Topics Discussed Today

[10:53] Dr. Strecher doesn't have a lot of time for being on podcasts, but he appreciated how Michael and Pat understood his book.

[12:27] Michael and Dr. Strecher both had points in their lives where they lost their way.

[15:59] Neurocognitive behavioral scientists are proving what the ancient philosophers imagined back then.

[17:14] People who have a better purpose than themselves tend to survive longer. When people lose purpose they get sick and they die.

[18:03] The process of self-affirmation seems to be really good for you as well as having a stronger purpose and being able to articulate that purpose.

[20:05] Research has shown that people with a low purpose in life have a greater likelihood of developing Alzheimer's disease, after seven years or retirement.

[21:10] Purpose is a goal or set of goals around the things that matter most in life.

[21:59] There are over 2,000 studies that setting goals work.

[22:48] Sentinel goals are goals you visualize with crystal clear clarity and have a secret pathway towards attaining that goal.

[23:59] People with more purpose have less activation in the part of the brain that relates to conflict.

[24:32] When Buddhists talk about focusing the mind, but it seems like what they're really talking about is removing the extraneous things that clutter the mind.

[27:04] Having purpose means seeing things in a new way.

[30:14] Dr. Strecher always admired the spirituality of religious people. Religious people seem to have a strong purpose.

[33:36] To find your purpose start asking the questions of what matters most.

[34:54] Look for people who you would like to emulate. Think about what you would want people to say about you at your memorial service. Create the why of your life and assemble everything together.

[37:23] Statistics are showing that we are losing our purpose in our life. Dr. Strecher has a goal of helping 1 billion people find the purpose in their life.

[39:38] Studies among students have shown that their general purpose has gone down and general depression has gone up.

[42:24] The epiphany for Michael was when his wife left, and he was alone in his 5000 square foot house.

[43:13] Dr. Strecher's younger daughter caught chicken pox, and it completely destroyed her heart. She was eligible for a heart transplant. She had the transplant and then a second one. When she was 19, she was in nursing school. During spring break, she had a sudden heart attack and died.

[46:10] A few months later, Dr. Strecher found himself alone kayaking to the middle of Lake Michigan. He saw the sunrise and everything started glittering. As the sun came up, he felt his daughter, and it seemed she was saying you need to get over this.

[48:12] After this, he wrote down what mattered most and then made goals around that. This changed his life.

[53:04] Figure out how to align yourself with your purpose. Being aligned with your purpose is a constant daily practice.

[54:45] Loving kindness meditation is extending good feelings to people you love, then people you don't know, then people you don't even like.

[56:58] Think about doing things that are bigger than yourself.

[01:01:03] The first thing we need to do is understand who we are and why we are on this planet or ethos. It also has to be logical to us. The meaning of life is to teach.

[01:02:44] We are who we choose to be, so we should be careful who we choose to be.

[01:13:02] We can't know or understand reality. We can just try to live the biggest best life that we can.

[01:22:02] Memento Mori literally translates into you will die. We should treat each day as a gift and not waste time on things that are trivial. When we meditate on our death, we really think about what we have done.

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Dr. Victor Strecher

Life on Purpose: How Living for What Matters Most Changes Everything

On Purpose

On purpose: Vic Strecher at TEDxUofM

Kumanu

Vic Strecher

@vicstrecher on Twitter

Victor Strecher on Facebook

Victor Strecher on LinkedIn

Episode 50 – Interview With a Medicine Man Willem Wout De Klerk

Episode 66 – Jedi Mind Tricks with FBI Hostage Negotiator Chris Voss

Storyville Coffee

Tony Robbins

Peak Performance: Elevate Your Game, Avoid Burnout, and Thrive with the New Science of Success

Happiness Trifecta

Life After Suicide

Viktor Frankl

Purpose in Life and Alzheimer's

The Checklist Manifesto

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I treat a lot of veterans in my job as a surgeon, and many of them have PTSD. What I’ve learned over the years is that anger is really fear disguised, and I try to never take it personally. I had a patient whose face hurt so badly that he couldn’t even touch his skin. And no one seemed to be able to tell him what was going on, and he was afraid that I’d be just another doctor to brush him off, and the longer he had to wait, the angrier he got. By the time I walked into the room, he was ready to pick a fight.

This tense situation could have ended up in several negative ways, but by the time the patient and I completed our visit- an hour later- the last thing this grizzled veteran said to me was, “Doc, I’m sorry about how I acted. Thank you. I love you.” I’m not trying to brag about my amazing people skills, it took me 25 years of medical practice to finally get it. A game changer for me was the day my brilliant plastic surgery colleague, Dr. James Rough, came into my office, and said ”Hey you gotta check out this book called, "Never Split The Difference" written by an FBI Hostage Negotiator.

This best selling book really is a practical manual on how to have meaningful interactions with other human beings- be it your boss, your client, your loved one , your child- or in my case, my patient. On this episode of the Hollow Tube, Chris Voss will tell us about the sentinel event that took him from the New York City SWAT team to the FBI Hostage Negotiation Team. Then, he’ll teach about the neuroscience of becoming a master negotiator and how the same principles apply to any field.

Have you ever lost your temper or had a heated exchange with someone that you wished had gone better? We all have. Chris will take us through some of the mental exercises we can do to keep our cool under any circumstance. And finally Chris will teach us some of the Jedi mind tricks like mirroring, labeling, tactical empathy and the Late Night FM Radio DJ voice- that we can use to connect better with others, have a greater influence, and achieve more.

Topics Discussed Today:

[11:08] Chris has always been proactive. When he started having knee problems, he knew it was time to make a switch in his career.

[13:48] If a transition is easy, you're not learning. Awkwardness is the barrier to learning.

[15:31] If you feel uncomfortable, you are immersed in what you are doing. Even in surgery, you feel like a laser beam.

[16:23] We talk about how to carry this focus and self-awareness into everyday life. Practice your skills in everyday life and keep in mind that reliving them is practice.

[19:02] Mental practice will build repetition with your brain and prepare you for situations.

[20:33] Chris volunteered on a suicide hotline to get some experience with crisis negotiation. Accepting advice from someone, gives them a stake in the game as a mentor.

[24:18] Find who's doing what you want to do or is in charge of who's doing what you want to do.

[28:09] Michael really liked the deep respect that Brandon had for his father Chris.

[28:55] Hostage negotiation was invented in the 1970s. Neuroscience is backing up emotional intelligence and the way that the brain works.

[30:31] We remember the most intense moment.

[34:57] Most negotiations are backed up by neuroscience. We need to focus on how the message is received.

[35:59] You have to have the self-awareness to get your message across.

[36:37] The late-night FM radio DJ voice. Mirror neurons react automatically. This immediately calms the brain.

[38:09] You can change the conversation by changing the tone of your voice. We pick up velocity with negative emotions. We need to slow things down and kick the positive emotions back into gear.

[41:08] Mirroring is like a Jedi mind trick. Mirror the other side's position every single time by repeating the last two or three words that they said.

[42:40] Mirroring someone's exact words means that you heard their words.

[43:15] Labeling has a tendency to bypass defense actions.

[44:19] Tactical empathy is the purposeful application of empathy. Negative thoughts need to be drawn out and diffused.

[46:53] The closer we are to people the more their perspective is going to change.

[48:47] Go after the negatives, diffuse them, and never deny them.

[50:01] Chris and his team train high performance individuals.

[52:19] Learning by doing is a slow learners method. Teachers are the best teachers.

[53:43] It's not practice that makes perfect it's perfect practice that makes perfect. Chris's classes are instant immersion.

[56:22] They're usually about 50 students in his classes.

[01:00:11] Chris and his team are building out certifications this year. They're also going to have some boot camps. They also have a video instruction course. They have a lot of products that they want to put out there, because people learn differently.

[01:03:53] Nobody is taking the concepts of hostage negotiation and dropping them into business school the way Chris is. He and his team also spent a lot of time learning how to teach.

Pat and Michael’s Action Steps:

  • Pick one of the concepts Chris mentioned, like mirroring, labeling or using your Late Night FM Radio DJ voice and work on it for a week or even forty days, until you’ve mastered the skill.
  • Read or listen to Chris’ book: Never Split the Difference. As Dr. Rough said, “Trust Me.” I started with the audiobook, which sounds like a John Grisham novel, and went through that a few times before I bought the hardcopy.
  • Sign up for Chris’ newsletter by texting- FBIEMPATHY … one word... to 228-28
  • Check out Chris’ website at blackswanltd.com
  • Reach out to Chris on twitter @vossnegotiation, on instagram @thefbinegotiator, or on facebook @Chris Voss and tell him what you learned from him on the podcast- that way he’ll come back.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter

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Dr. James Rough

Never Split The Difference

Episode 65 – Bringing Harmony Into Our Lives With Diane Halfman

Never Split The Difference | Chris Voss | TEDxUniversityofNevada

Episode 57 – The Black Swan: with Brandon Voss

The Black Swan Group

@VossNegotiation on Twitter

The Black Swan Group Facebook Page

The Negotiation Edge

Pure Encapsulations

The Talent Code: Greatness Isn't Born. It's Grown. Here's How.

Tahl Raz

Flow: The Psychology of Optimal Experience (Harper Perennial Modern Classics)

Quotes:

“Hurting my knee is one of the best things that ever happened, because negotiation is so much more enjoyable.” Chris Voss

“We focus on accelerating learning when we teach negotiations. I'm going to intentionally make you feel awkward, because that's when I know you're picking up the pace.” Chris Voss

“Never take advice from somebody who you wouldn't trade places with.” Chris Voss

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We are back after taking some personal time to be with family and those people who are most important to us. We have an exciting show and an amazing guest today. Do you remember Episode 64 with Audience Whisperer Kerry Mensior? Today’s guest is life coach, author, and speaker Diane Halfman who just happens to be Kerry’s significant other.

Diane has an amazing energy and presence. She also has a really interesting story. She is one of those people who could do or be anything. She found herself at age 25 alone with two daughters. She had bills to pay and ended up becoming a police officer. She was suddenly the only woman on the force working undercover as a prostitute during a sting operation for the Green River Serial Killer case.

She was thrust into a world that she had never imagined. She also took great pains to keep her work world and her world as a mom separate. Over the years, she faced sadness, terror, chaos, and darkness all the while finding ways to keep herself grounded. She learned about facing fear, inner strength, and having one’s own values. All of this prepared her for what she does today helping others find joy and show up powerfully in the world doing something that she calls the Spa Life.

Topics Discussed Today

[09:42] Michael met Diane at the Bo Eason concert.

[10:35] Diane's dad really wanted her to succeed and wanted her to go into law or medicine. She got a degree in Criminal Justice to prepare for law school, but realized it was too boring and ended up taking a police officer exam.

[11:50] They were actually looking for undercover women to be part of the Green River Serial Killer case. She took the test, spent three months in the academy, and then she was on the street.

[12:02] She had no idea what was actually going on. It was a rude awakening.

[13:57] She was the only woman, and none of the officer's wives wanted them to ride with her.

[15:17] She was 25 when she started on the force, and prior to that she had led a sheltered life.

[16:32] She was determined to have a life outside of the department and draw a line.

[18:56] She was determined that she had to go home at night, because she had daughters. She had to have a certain presence about her.

[22:16] She taught D.A.R.E. with 5th graders. Many of the kids couldn't see beyond the neighborhoods that they were in. She was also exposed to many gang issues and was the first to arrive where a 15 year old was shot.

[26:11] You have to have things that ground you to take away the darkness of witnessing these kinds of things.

[28:12] How can we have the person in front of us matter? Give that extra smile or something.

[31:25] We can be the best we can be or we can give away our power. We always have to come back to ourselves and that what we do and who we are is enough.

[35:21] One of her last cases had a profound effect on her. These things make you look at life completely different. It was a murder kidnap case. She was also in a bad relationship and at the precise moment when her boyfriend called and asked what was for dinner, she knew that was not the person she wanted to be or the example she wanted to set for her kids.

[41:57] As Diane was transitioning out of the department, she was part of a pilot project called The Ultimate Game of Life. It was about building your life on what made you happy first, then healthy, and then wealthy.

[42:18] On one of the calls her mentor asked her if she had all of the time and money in the world what would she be doing. Her answer, Living the Spa Life.

[42:34] By taking care of yourself on an extreme level, you can show up as who you were meant to be.

[43:11] There may not be balance, but there can be harmony. We are the navigator of our own experience here.

[43:57] SPA is seek power always. The power is the power within us.

[45:24] You can choose whether your going to walk around the world as a victim.

[46:33] Trusting your intuition makes a difference as who you show up in the world. It's a muscle that you can cultivate. Is it coming from your head, your heart, or your gut.

[49:31] Emotion moves through your body in 90 second cycles.

[52:18] Give yourself time and space and take a minute and three deep breaths. You can have better communication when you are not angry. Know how you process things.

[56:07] Become your own cop, because awareness is the first step. Be able to change your emotions.

[58:42] The four areas of power are synonymous with the four areas of awareness. What is happening with your body?

[01:00:46] Physical power and having self-defense skills. Mental powers and nuance and noticing id where the awareness comes about. Emotional power and knowing your emotions and being able to express them and not letting them bottle up. Spiritual power and intuition.

[01:04:41] Diane talks about techniques for healing and releasing trauma.

[01:07:30] Shifting your perspective to not be a victim and do something good can lead to the benefit of the next step.

[01:09:12] It's a choice to decide to have a positive mental attitude.

[01:12:42] Diane shares her heros including Bo Eason and Rolf Benirschke, and Drew Brees.

[01:20:48] We have expectations about how our life should be. How we handle curve balls is what makes all of the difference. What is the learning in things that life presents? Put something positive in your brain everyday.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram

Michael Bays on Facebook

The Hollow Tube Facebook Page

Tanmeet Sethi

Episode 58 – Minimalism, Diaphragmatic Breathing, and Jiu Jitsu an Interview with Steve Maxwell Part I

Episode 64 – Where We Find Meaning Through the Power of Our Stories With The Audience Whisperer: Kerry Mensior

The Audience Whisperer

Bankcode Personality Test

Bo Eason

Episode 61 – The Drunken Taoist: Daniele Bolelli

Canyon Ranch

Diane Halfman

Diane’s Facebook Page

@DianeHalfman on Twitter

Astral City

Viktor Frankl

Rolf Benirschke

Essentialism

Clutter to Calm Academy

Life Reset Quiz

Live You Spa Life Podcast

Quotes:

“When we're not paying attention, the months and the years fly by and before you know it they're gone. If we can stop being so busy and so distracted, and be fully present and aware and really pay attention then we can slow time down to a trickle.” Dr. Michael Bays

“Everyone has different aspects of themselves that they show or don't show. We have a public life, a private life, and we also have a secret life.” Diane Halfman

“So many times fear is a facade, and it's how we react to it and how we show up with it that affects how we move through it.” Diane Halfman

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Have you ever had to make a split second life-or-death decision? Have you ever had to make a critical life or death decision under extreme and chaotic circumstances? On this episode, Pat and I are proud to bring you a master storyteller and teacher -The Audience Whisperer, Kerry Mensior. He’s going to tell us about a day at the office with the San Diego PD and a couple of close calls he had with active shooters.

He’ll also takes us through a powerful mental exercise he calls the “Shoebox Analogy” that can be used to deal with painful, recurring memories that keep looping over and over in our heads. Then he shares a communication technology called BANK-code that we can use to quickly determine our predominate personality type and the personality types of anyone we encounter. Armed with this knowledge we can communicate more effectively with our colleagues, coworkers, clients, loved ones, and kids.

Topics Discussed Today
[07:13] Kerry was on a ballistic missile submarine in 1983. The subs had 8 warheads which meant they were carrying 128 nuclear weapons. He was a sonar technician. The eyes and ears of the ship.
[08:42] It was mind-boggling for Kerry that he could be the supervisor for the sonar techs at 19 years old for a multibillion-dollar nuclear submarine. Kerry did have good training which also got him interested in being a trainer.
[10:01] It was a scary time during the Cold War and the Russians had some really good submarine te
[14:09] Kerry taught himself some programming on board the sub and they read a lot.
[15:48] After the sub, he became a reserve officer for the San Diego PD. He moved from the military to full-time police work.
[18:59] One officer could have 20 or 30 contacts with people on one shift a very small percentage of those contacts end up with the use of force.
[21:11] Kerry was involved in two shootings.
[21:14] One involved a woman who had mental problems who had stopped taking her meds and started drinking. She ended up getting a gun and firing at some neighbors.
[22:47] She pointed her gun at Kerry and his partner, and they didn't really have a choice about what to do.
[23:04] In another situation he had a standoff with another man with mental problems who appeared to have an AR-15 rifle. When faced with these situations law enforcement officers don't have a choice about what to do.
[25:25] In order to keep control of your emotions in a stressful situation, you need to pre-plan your actions ahead of time.
[27:40] How do we not lose our cool in these tense situations? Pre-plan how you are going to react. You could also have some compassion for this person, and why they're doing whatever behavior they are doing.
[31:46] Kerry's company supplies people with access to information so that they can use pre-planned information to handle tense situations.
[32:40] The first thing you need to do is know your communication style and know the other person's communication style.
[33:26] You can discover your personality type with Bankcode testing. You can also understand your child's communication style.
[36:11] Bankcode allows you to speak to other people with their values.
[37:54] We are a mix of all four personality types, but we do have a predominant one.
[41:09] Understanding your personality type is hugely valuable, especially if you feel like an outsider.
[43:47] Bank is the first personality assessment that is intuitive and easy to implement.
[46:02] Kerry shares a story about how he spotted all of the different personality types while visiting the Louvre.
[46:14] A personality type can be determined in 3 minutes or less if allowed to ask questions.
[46:46] When you know what language to speak you can develop instant rapport.
[48:58] Kerry used one of Chris Voss's techniques in a business negotiation.
[51:07] If your dealing with recurring issues. Use the shoebox method.
[52:45] Say there's a shoe box in your closet that smacks you in the head. The box is filled with photographs of your memories.
[53:39] Put the photographs or the memories back in the shoe box and put them in the closet and close the door.
[54:20] A time will come when that shoebox won't hit you when you open the closet door.
[55:36] When you choose to pull that shoebox down you will grow from the incident.
[59:45] Patrick was impressed with Kerry's humility.
[01:00:14] A lot of who we think we are is because of the stories that we tell.
[01:01:09] Sentinel moments can either crush us or make us stronger. That is where the gold is buried.
[01:02:20] All the images of our memories have transformed us into the multi-faceted person that we are today. That's our story.
[01:04:50] When we tell our story from the perspective of a narrator and not a victim. our brain integrates better.
[01:05:27] Tell your story it will heal you and empower you.
[01:06:56] The best way to communicate with someone is to speak their language.
[01:07:36] Blueprint, action, nurturing, and knowledge. These are the four personality types.
[01:08:13] Go back in your mind when you were young to unlock your personality types.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Episode 63 – “Why Not Me?” with Tanmeet Sethi, M.D.
The Audience Whisperer
@HappyCop on Twitter
Bankcode Personality Test
mybankcode.com/victory
Hippocrates Four Temperments
DrJoanRosenberg.com
Dr. Dan Siegel
Bo Eason
Jill Bolte Taylor- My Stroke of Insight
Never Split the Difference
If This Is a Man and The Truce

Quotes:
“It's mind-boggling that I could be the supervisor for the eyes and ears of the ship at 19 years old on a multibillion-dollar nuclear submarine.” Kerry Mensior
“Everything has been about contribution and personal growth. I've been very lucky to find occupations that have allowed me to do that and receive a paycheck.” Kerry Mensior
“You can always tell a pro because they always acknowledge other pros successes.” Dr. Michael Bays
“The purpose of life is to teach. Kerry has embodied that purpose with humility and dignity.” Dr. Patrick Bays

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What do you do when life throws you a curveball and brings you to your knees? Sentinel events can either destroy us, define us, or make us stronger. What is the secret between those who get wrecked by life and those who get stronger? Today, we are going to find out with our guest and friend Dr. Tanmeet Sethi.

Michael met Tanmeet over 10 years ago, and he and Patrick are honored to call her a friend. She is an MD who is board certified in family and integrative medicine. She practices family medicine and OB at Swedish Hospital in Seattle.

She is a Graduate of Fellowship in Integrative Medicine, University of Arizona Program in Integrative Medicine and Fellowship Director, Integrative Medicine Fellowship, Swedish Hospital, Seattle, WA. As well as an Assistant Professor, University of Washington Medical School, Seattle, WA.

She is a TEDx speaker and a wife and mom. She is who Michael wants to be when he grows up. In this podcast, Tanmeet is going to teach us three words that we can use to instantly transform our perspective and empower us no matter what our situation. She is also going to tell us the magic two words that will change our lives for the better forever. We talk about gratitude, living a joyful life, and more.

Topics Discussed Today
[07:30] Tanmeet's son who was almost 3 diagnosed with DMD which is a chronic degenerative neuromuscular disease that is fatal.
[08:27] She also was 9 months pregnant and had a one-and-a-half-year-old. Everything became more stressful, because she wasn't sure if her body betrayed her and she didn't know if her other children may have this also.
[09:50] She had some intuition that she had to work at it to turn things around.
[10:57] My husband and I were wondering why me, why us? Suddenly, everything shifted and we thought why not us? We decided to live this life with joy, and we are going to figure it out.
[11:23] Are we going to live and learn and teach your children how to live with joy or are we just going to give up and decide life is horrible?
[13:22] The worst thing that could happen to a parent is for something to happen to their child. I can't even imagine how someone can get through something like that. The decision to go forward to something that you make every day when you get up in the morning.
[15:53] Tanmeet said that this turned her life around and might be the reason why she is so strong.
[18:46] Tanmeet works on gratitude and has taken active steps. She gets out of bed and says thank you for another day.
[19:58] She has a privileged job. Every month there is something new. Nothing improves with the disease. She is strong and owns what life throws at her.
[21:21] People who thrive show up to their life everyday. They live life fully everyday.
[22:15] Wake up with a sense of gratitude and a sense of excitement and be stronger than you were.
[22:34] Successful people who have a life well-lived are consistent overtime.
[23:08] Have a structure and a pattern ingrained in your DNA because that is what makes you stronger.
[23:42] Exercise your resilience muscle and it becomes automatic.
[25:40] If you are suffering and you own the sadness and you give gratitude for it. You are turning towards it instead of away from it. When you trying to start something your heart opens. When your heart opens energy and compassion flow in and out. It's like a never-ending fuel of compassion in the world.
[26:16] Tanmeet feels that her suffering is actually fueling her compassion for others.
[27:22] We all have a right to feel joyful and fuel ourselves in ways that we don't understand.
[29:02] There's a difference between facing your suffering and becoming victimized by it and facing your suffering and becoming empowered by it.
[30:29] That big question why not me is huge. You can shift the victimized cycle of why me into why not me.
[35:54] I love support. The most beautiful thing a person could say is I'm willing to sit with you and support you.
[36:40] Sympathy makes you work to have to overcome pity.
[41:04] People also say why me when it comes to beautiful joyous things happening in their lives.
[41:27] Everyone needs to actively look for joy.
[44:57] Suffering is just suffering if there's no meaning. Viktor Frankl found meaning with hope and gratitude.
[47:02] If life doesn't look good then change the lens. The lens is what's showing you what is happening. [51:26] Negative and positive are so abstract. No one wants to be around negative.
[52:21] The way we judge things as good or bad in our lives is limited.
[53:56] Accepting what is is the only way to affect change in your life.
[59:34] Tanmeet also works with people suffering from trauma.
[01:04:00] Tanmeet has a website and community and her book should be out soon.
[01:09:20] When we question why not me we become acutely aware of our emotional state. We become accepting of our circumstances. We take ownership.
[01:12:01] Let's follow Tanmeet's lead and decide to live in a beautiful state everyday.
[01:14:16] What are you going to focus on? What is this mean? What am I going to do now?
[01:16:13] Say thank you, my life is beautiful everyday.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Tanmeet Sethi, MD
Gratitude Community
Tanmeet Sethi on Facebook
Mind-Body Medicine
Two Words That Can Change Your Life
@sethimd on Twitter
062 – Looking at the Dark and the Light and Finding Equilibrium
Bo Eason Personal Power
Deepak Chopra
Viktor Frankl
Deep Survival

Quotes:
“My suffering is actually fueling my compassion for others.” Dr. Tanmeet Sethi
“My husband and I were wondering why me, why us? Suddenly, everything shifted and we thought why not us? We decided to live this life with joy, and we are going to figure it out.” Dr. Tanmeet Sethi
“The worst thing that could happen to a parent is for something to happen to their child. I can't even imagine how someone can get through something like that. The decision to go forward is something that you make every day when you get up in the morning.”
Dr. Patrick Bays
“To me she's invincible. Tanmeet is one of the strongest humans I've known in my life. ” Dr. Michael Bays

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Have you ever thought about your impact on the world or how things would have been different had you never existed? Our guest, Satori Mateu, has. If it wasn’t for his grandmother, he wouldn’t be here. Today, he shares how he overcame a traumatic childhood, depression, and suicidal thoughts to become a karate master, best selling author, mental performance coach, and ended up working with Tony Robbins.

Michael met Satori at a conference and was struck by his zen like calm and understated strength of presence. In spite of his successes, Satori still carried with him the shame and guilt of his difficult childhood, so he dedicated his life to searching for answers. He now helps others transcend their negative thoughts and emotions and write a new story for themselves. He’s coached Olympic athletes, CEOs, celebrities and experts from multiple fields, and now he’s going to share his wisdom with us.

Topics Discussed Today
[05:34] Satori shares the story of his mom and grandmother and how he almost was never born.
[06:11] His dad used to hide from his grandfather out of fear of him.
[06:44] His parents married when his mother was 16 and his father was 20.
[06:59] As a child, his mother reminded him how much easier her life would be without him around.
[07:28] He became very independent, because he didn't want to inconvenience his mother.
[07:57] He always had a feeling of emptiness like something was missing.
[08:28] As a martial arts instructor he started focusing on mindsets. He also noticed successful people also felt like something was missing.
[09:19] He began noticing patterns in people. He also realized that he was minimizing himself throughout his whole life.
[09:59] He then developed a strategy to dissolve minimization and self-doubt. He used this to remove his apologetic nature, and it improved his entire life.
[12:16] At one point, he contemplated suicide and realized that he could go through negative moments in his life and neutralize them.
[15:01] He took moments of guilt and shame and realized in order to feel the guilt and shame, he would have to only see the drawbacks of the moment.
[15:41] Look at the benefit of a moment to yourself and to the other person.
[16:31] He had an epiphany and decided to rewind the tapes one by one as they came to his brain. He would look at the benefits instead of the negative aspects of the situation.
[17:20] As he went through the moments, he realized that these moments of guilt and shame were the result of other people's values placed upon him.
[18:58] Michael also had instances where he felt like he wasn't worthy of love.
[20:51] He let go of his resentment when he realized that his parents had their own insecurities imprinted upon them.
[24:59] Challenging his boundaries and achieving new things helps Satori to grow.
[26:08] Our goals become more valuable when they impact other people and are bigger than ourselves.
[29:28] We have two sides. A dark side and a light side. We should embrace each side. Our deepest wants are on the dark side.
[32:13] Part of the challenge of life is recognizing that we all have some type of latent pathology.
[33:27] To recognize your shadow, write down everything that you connect to guilt and shame. The secret things are the dark side.
[34:46] Start looking at the moments with the most emotional intensity. What are the benefits to you and the other person.
[35:50] Once you see that there are just as many benefits as drawbacks you can find the point that feels neutral.
[36:25] When you put others on a pedestal, you are minimizing yourself.
[36:59] We all have the same personal traits in some shape or form.
[40:09] When we admire someone, find the opposite side of the great trait they have and don't live in a fantasy.
[44:26] When you put a client on a pedestal, you can't do business with them. When your client is an equal, then you can negotiate with them.
[45:25] Being consciously aware of a situation and then using a think key to address that situation.
[47:12] When you identify your blind spots you are seeing the other side.
[48:39] With the 6-month rule, the pathology will always percolate to the top within six months.
[52:28] Having the ability to reconcile fantasy with what is possible.
[53:28] A lot of personal development groups only focus on the positive.
[55:40] Satori was recently evacuated from his home because of the wildfires. The benefit of the entire thing was how people came together and reached out to each other.
[01:07:53] Satori is working on getting his message out, and he has his book Unshakable Wealth, and he is trying to grow his community.
[01:10:51] Get your Hollow Tube notebook and do these exercises.
[01:11:26] Let’s start with rewriting our story when it comes to guilt and shame.
[01:13:47] Embracing our dark side. Now this exercise is only for the brave. It may stir up some feelings, so use common sense. Don’t do it before a big job interview or if it may exacerbate PTSD. I recommend writing it on scrap paper and symbolically burning the paper when your done.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Episode 61 – The Drunken Taoist: Daniele Bolelli
Satori Mateu
Get a Free Copy of Unshakable Wealth: How to 10X Your Life and Business without Apologies
Satori Mateu on Facebook
Satori Mateu on Instagram
@satorimateu on Twitter
Sigmund Freud
Carl Jung
Walt Disney

Quotes:
“Pathology will rise to the top within six months.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“All those moments when I felt guilt and shame were other people’s values placed on me.” Satori Mateu
“The dark side is where your true desires and deepest wants live.” Satori Mateu
“Every personal trait that someone has we all have in some form.” Satori Mateu
“My self worth is tied up in my achievement of different goals.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Disapproval gets imprinted upon you until you do something to correct it.” Dr. Michael Bays
“You have to have goals that are bigger than yourself.” Dr. Michael Bays
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Daniele Bolelli The Drunken Taoist is our special guest on today’s show. He is a university history professor, author, and martial artist. Today he is our guide on a journey where desire and destiny collide.

I first heard Daniele on the Joe Rogan show, and I have been following him ever since. I was intrigued by his philosophy on life and found his books On the Warrior’s Path and Not Afraid. Then I started following his podcasts The Drunken Taoist podcast, The Taoist Lecture series, and now the epical-History on Fire.

Practical wisdom is the common thread that runs through all of Daniele’s interests. He is a man who understands the interconnectedness of the subtle, and sometimes not-so-subtle, energies of man, nature and the universe. He embraces life with full intensity and appreciation much like his hero, the original drunken Taoist, Ikyū Sōjun, the Japanese Zen Buddhist and poet who lived in the 15th century.

Daniele is a teacher who gives us lessons about life and spirituality by the example he sets, through stories of personal experience and the historical figures he brings to life on History on Fire. My recommendation is to listen to him carefully.

Topics Discussed Today
[05:17] Daniele likes Tom Robbins because he has depth, but he's not a suffering artist. He also enjoys his sense of humor. Robbin's writing speaks to him.
[08:02] A lot of things that Daniele was interested in came from the US and Los Angeles.
[09:38] He is driven by human contact and social activities. Los Angeles ended up being worse than Italy in that respect. The fast pace was the opposite of what he liked.
[12:01] Daniele majored in Anthropology. He at least enjoyed the theory of it. He thought it would be more than history.
[13:18] He also got a master's degree in American Indian studies. He had a prior interest in this subject.
[14:42] He also spent time on a reservation. He found the sense of community amazing.
[16:29] He went to the sweat lodge and participated in some ceremonies.
[17:28] Daniele shares his sundance experience. Rationally, it didn't make sense, but it did on an intuitive level.
[19:31] He started training in martial arts when he was 17. He was also an MMA fighter. He liked facing his fears.
[23:12] His late wife was an osteopathic physician who passed away after getting brain cancer.
[23:58] When Michael heard the story on Daniele's podcast he felt a connection.
[24:50] The first few months after the diagnosis were hell. She did pass away quickly in a 6 month period.
[25:31] His priorities shifted after he came to terms with the reality.
[29:54] Building a great life boils down to knowing who you are and what you want. If you can't be happy where you are, you won't be happy anywhere.
[32:17] He doesn't believe in dividing spirituality from everyday life. Spirituality is playing with your kids, and it is an extension of your life.
[34:19] Words are only a tiny portion of who we are. It's the energy passing through the words not actually the words we use.
[41:24] He talks about how important it is to see both sides of things. There are right things with the philosophy of liberals and conservatives. We should see the truth in both sides.
[41:49] We need to accept our circumstances and take responsibility and drop blame, and then do whatever we can to move forward and change the circumstance.
[42:57] Daniele has used writing as a key way to express himself. He started with writing, but he has been more successful as a podcast, but three of his books are close to the root of his being and his personal philosophy.
[44:58] As long as your path is leading in the right direction, you are doing great.
[45:33] Daniele spends years writing notes, before he sits down to write. He has been writing the books for a long time. This forces his to figure out who he wants to be.
[46:13] He works a lot on his podcasts. He also teaches in college. He is on all day. He works on several projects at the same time, but he loves his work.
[47:56] Media success is never guaranteed. He plans on teaching long term. One day a week would be ideal.
[52:59] Michael loves Daniele's story telling ability on his history podcast. Even though, he knows about the historical account, he gets lost in the story.
[53:44] Daniele believes that there is a life force flowing through the universe.
[54:57] Ego can be a problem when becoming the hollow bone or tube.
[55:25] Things don't come to you when you are needy. This is a bit of an irony. The harder you reach, the more you push things away. The more you can relax, the easier the reach becomes.
[56:43] Daniele doesn't really meditate, but he takes 10 deep breaths and practices martial arts or works up a sweat.
[01:00:14] Daniele is a man who shares his wisdom by the way he leads his life.
[01:00:48] We have no control in this extremely unpredictable and complex world in which we live in. Knowing who we are will give us the mindset to get back on our feet and keep moving forward.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Daniele Bolelli
The Drunken Taoist
Taoist Lecture Series
The Drunken Taoist- Episode 34 Elizabeth Han
History on Fire
Tom Robbins
Still Life With Woodpecker
Jitterbug Perfume
Michael Pollan
How to Change Your Mind
Deep Survival by Lawrence Gonzales
Terrence McKenna
Ikyū Sōjun
Chuang Tzu
The Way of Chuang Tzu
Frank Fools Crow
College of Osteopathic Medicine of the Pacific
What is Cranial Osteopathy?
Dan Carlin
Ennio Morricone
The Good, The Bad, and The Ugly: Original Motion Picture Soundtrack
Books by Daniele Bolelli

Quotes:
“Ultimately everybody gets crushed.” Daniele Bolelli

“If you can’t be happy right here right now where you are, then you’re not going to be happy anywhere.” Daniele Bolelli

“Spirituality is life lived with full intensity, full awareness and appreciation.” Daniele Bolelli

“The only thing that matters is what can elevate the quality of your life” Daniele Bolelli

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Have you ever met someone that won you over with their story?

In November of 2016, I was part of a committee who interviewed 18 medical students from all over the country, vying for a spot in the Ear, Nose and Throat residency at The University of Arizona College of Medicine.

After each interview, my colleague and friend, Dr. Audrey Baker and I compare notes, "Wow! She was phenomenal or did you see his credentials?” Just when my stomach starts growling and I'm thinking about what we’re going to have for lunch, In walks the next candidate wearing a bow tie and tortoise shell glasses, lookin like an Ivy League James Dean. Just to liven things up, I go off script, and I go deep.

Doctor, tell me about one of the greatest moments of your life or a time in your life that brought you to your knees? Most people, obviously, would have told us about their greatest achievement, and that’s a safe choice, but this young doctor went the other way. He took a risk, and opened up with honesty and vulnerability while at the same time demonstrating strength and compassion.

On this episode of the Hollow Tube podcast, Pat and I bring you Dr. John Symms.

John grew up trapping gophers for a bounty on his family’s tree fruit farm in the small town of Caldwell, Idaho. As a young adult, he was a writer for ESPN and Powder magazine. As a professional skier, he competed in the X-games and he’s been featured in Warren Miller’s ski movies, all while maintaining a 4.0 GPA in mathematics on a full academic scholarship at the University of Utah.

Now, John in his third year of a grueling 5-year, ear, nose and throat surgical residency.

In this interview, John takes us back to the days before medical school- When he was ripping fresh pow on the slopes all over the globe. He’ll tell us about the sentinel event that made him trade his Descente jacket and Salomon skis for a white coat and a stethoscope.

We’ll talk about the struggles of surgical residency, and how the rigorous training has and hasn’t changed since Pat and I went through it, 30 years ago.

We'll discuss the coping strategies that helped us make it through our training.

And finally, we’ll offer some advice to those who are considering medicine as a profession. This podcast will apply to anyone that has a stressful job, especially service related professions, whether you’re a cop, a first responder, a teacher, a doctor or a nurse.

Topics Discussed Today
[06:26] John grew up in Caldwell, Idaho just like the resident who is one year behind him.
[08:03] John's dad was a farmer and a large amount of his family is still there and Idaho.
[10:06] They also have Vineyards and his grandparents started a winery in 1984. They then sold the winery to a wine company.
[11:07] John worked on the farm every year.
[11:50] John is the first person in his family to go to medical school, and he thinks it would be nice to return to Caldwell, Idaho.
[13:03] John was a professional skier and participated in the X Games.
[13:24] His mother was also a competitive ski racer. She then became a ski instructor at Bogus Basin and that is where John developed his love for skiing.
[17:16] John went to college on a full academic scholarship. His friend gave him a trampoline, and he practiced his ski tricks everyday.
[18:15] John majored in mathematics. Once you get past calculus it's on you to read the material until it makes sense. Being able to figure out things on your own and studying things very carefully are good qualities for a surgeon to have.
[19:40] John was attracted to math because even though it takes a long time to get it you know when you got it.
[20:29] John has also been featured in Warren Miller ski movies.
[21:03] Towards the end of John's competitive ski career he wrote for ESPN online sports coverage. He also contributed to Powder and other ski magazines.
[26:10] As a child, John was always encouraged to go into medicine. He decided to go to medical school after he graduated from college, so he went back, 2 years later, and took his prerequisite courses.
[29:28] When he finally graduated and got to spend 100% of his time on skiing he realized this wasn't his dream after all.
[33:18] Dislocating his hip when he was a skier was a sentinel event for John.
[34:46] He went to University of Nevada School of Medicine.
[40:29] There are a lot of trauma cases in Las Vegas. John treated a case where a guy was holding a gun while he was driving in a car and hit a bump and shot his friend. He also treated a gunshot wound were a man was twirling a gun on his finger and shot himself.
[41:38] John is in his third year of residency.
[41:48] When Michael and Pat were residents there were no rules, and they worked too many hours and were always on call.
[42:53] These five year residency and internship programs are grueling.
[43:42] John gets up early and does his prerounds in the early a.m. because he needs to know everything about every patient.
[51:25] Early in his career, John put a lot of pressure on himself to treat every ailment his patients may possibly have.
[51:43] He wanted to solve all of their problems, but it wasn't possible or feasible.
[52:46] The goal should be to get the patient through their hospital stay and then when they come back to the clinic start chipping away at all of the other problems.
[53:57] A lot of problems get solved outside of the hospital, and in the beginning, it was very difficult for John to figure this out.
[58:23] Being a resident takes a little piece of you. You have to maintain who you are when you are doing your residency.
[01:02:09] Residents don't get very much sleep. Patrick recommends relaxing and taking brief cat naps. Being calm and practicing deep breathing. Fatigue is the worst part of a residency.
[01:04:31] Emotionally detach yourself and deal with the thing that you have to deal with at the time.
[01:10:17] Residency is rough, but when John is done he can create any type of life he wants.
[01:11:09] John has a slackline that he walks on for exercise and balance.
[01:14:17] Surgical opponents are everywhere, and you need to do the best you can to circumnavigate them. These are similar to obstacles in life.
[01:15:58] A fellowship is after you complete your surgical specialty. John's top choice ear and skull base surgery. Then sinus surgery, facial plastics, or head and neck.
[01:19:18] John loves music and plays the saxophone when he has time. He collects records. His outside interests are really just hobbies.
[01:20:47] John's advice for high school kids who think they may want to be a doctor is to get straight A's in college.
[01:24:44] Don't go into medicine for the money. Your life won't be your own and you will be sacrificing time.
[01:26:11] Shoutouts to John's wife Annie. John took her to the senior prom and he knew he was in love with her at that time. He wishes he would have married Annie in high school.
[01:27:34] Surgical training or any traumatic event will take a piece of you away. What is left is who you are at your very core. You are the light that is left at the end of the day.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Man’s Search for Meaning
Nietzsche
Warren Miller
Powder Magazine article by John Symms
John Symms: How to Throw a Rodeo 540
Video: John Symms Ski Tour Squaw Valley
Micah Abrams @MAContent
@FatherlyHQ
Robert C. Wang, M.D.- Department Chair and Professor of Surgery, University of Nevada, Las Vegas
The War of Art
Bogus Basin

Quotes:
“When you’re a resident working in the hospital, it seems like a revolving door of people going through the worst moments of their entire life.” Dr. John Symms
“Treat college like a job.” Dr. John Symms
“Only perceive what your mind needs to take action.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“You can get bogged down in minutia.” Dr. Michael Bays
“You cannot save the world all by yourself.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“John is caring, compassionate and empathetic towards these individuals, so he takes it upon himself that he has the capacity to figure it out.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Have you ever met someone who changed your life forever?

Four years ago, I'm driving to work listening to this jiu-jitsu master on Joe Rogan named Steve Maxwell, and I hear him casually mention the name of the man who inspired him and changed the course of my life 15 years ago.

I think I’m hearing things, and I nearly drive off the road trying to hit rewind. How does a jiu-jitsu guy even know who he is? I’ve been waiting four years to ask that question, and I finally get my answer.

Our returning guest to The Hollow Tube is Steve Maxwell. He travels the globe with everything he owns in a 30 liter backpack teaching Gracie Jiu-jitsu, physical fitness, and functional mobility. My brother, Pat and I connected with Steve while he was in Moscow for part two of our interview, and Steve opens up with complete honesty when he tells us what the minimalist airport-to-airport lifestyle has cost him.

Then he takes us back to the mean streets of Philadelphia in the 90’s, the early days of his jiu-jitsu gym, “Maxercise” and how some of the tough guys of the City of Brotherly Love would come in off the street and challenge him to fight. Spoiler alert, they all lost.

Steve also teaches us about exercise physiology and shares some fitness and mobility alternatives for older athletes, like Pat and me.

He'll then explain the difference between goals and intentions, and how we can shape our reality with our thoughts. And finally, Steve reveals how he came to know of the man who changed the course of my life. Now friends, we bring you part II of the Hollow Tube podcast with Steve Maxwell.

Topics Discussed Today
[03:48] Steve shares how he wasn't meant to be a father and how his family dealt with him leaving. He's still close with his son, but not as close with his daughter.
[06:08] His daughter is a power lifting champion and deadlifts 335.
[07:13] He started teaching his son grappling with a teddy bear. Steve started a children's program at a gym called Maxercise.
[10:20] Jiu-jitsu is really about survival, not beating someone up, but surviving.
[11:37] The tough guys of the City of Brotherly Love would come in off the street and challenge him to fight at Maxercise.
[12:52] Steve was one of the original investors in the UFC.
[17:21] An exercise regimen for guys like Pat and Michael. You don't need to do multiple sets, what is important is the intensity of effort and producing muscle fatigue.
[22:40] Steve teaches mobility exercises in his workshop.
[26:17] One sport doesn't make you better at one sport. The higher level of skill an exercise takes, the lower the transfer to anything else.
[29:24] You don’t have to destroy yourself to stay strong and healthy. Once you’re over 50, your days for PRs (personal record) are done.
[30:40] The mobility program is a great way to keep in shape and avoid stiffness.
[31:49] Systema and Russian Martial Arts. You can apply these principles to self-defense. Steve is in Russia to learn.
[33:36] Steve trains as a discipline which comes from intention. He is not particularity motivated, but he intends to be as good as he can be at every age. This includes sleep,eating, and exercise.
[35:16] People is Russia are really friendly, and the lifestyle they have is excellent. People are more alike than they are different.
[37:58] Steve heard of Stuart Wilde because he had always been in the new thought movement, and he stumbled across The Art of Meditation.
[41:33] Stuart Wilde’s philosophy of meditation and theta waves.
[43:05] The importance of the feeling of gratitude. We need to be grateful for something to attract something better.
[46:42] 15 years ago, Michael was at one of the lowest points in his life. He made a decision to ask for help.
[47:25] He prayed with all of his heart for health.
[47:31] He stumbled upon work by Stuart Wilde. Michael decided to go to Brazil and meet him.
[48:33] After being around him for about six hours, Michael was convinced that Stuart Wilde was a raving lunatic.
[49:15] If it wasn't for this trip Michael never would have met his Shaman friend Jose who saved his marriage and his life.
[50:32] Michael has yet to meet his perfect guru.
[51:32] Now get out your Hollow Tube Notebook and put on your thinking caps. Make a list of the people you look up to in life- People I admire They don’t even have to be living or real. It could be Nelson Mandela or Maximus from Gladiator.
[52:49] Shout outs: Jason Matthews@ProPodcastSolutions, Professor Enrique Villegas at Gracie Barra Brazilian Jiu-jitsu Oro Valley, and My shaman friend - Jose Fernando Bravo Montenegro and the rest my Colombian family.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Steve Maxwell on Facebook
Steve Maxwell on Instagram
@SteveMaxwellSC on Twitter
Steve Maxwell Strength & Conditioning
Gracie Challenge Fights
Nate Zigler
Gracie Arizona Brazilian Jiu Jitsu Academy
Copperhead Crossfit
Colonel Mikhail Ryabko
Systema Headquarters
Systema
Nelson Mandela
Maximus Decimus Meridius- Gladiator
The Oxygen Advantage by Patrick McKeown
Toxemia Explained: The True Interpretation of the Cause of Disease (Revised Edition)- By J.H. Tilden, M.D.
Health Via Food by William Howard Hay
Stuart Wilde
New Age
Life Was Never Meant to Be a Struggle
The Journey Beyond Enlightenment: The Next Step in Your Personal Transformation
Silent Power
Infinite Self: 33 Steps in Reclaiming Your Infinite Power
The Art of Meditation
As a Man Thinketh: by James Allen
John Randolph Price
Ernest Holmes
Joel Sol Goldsmith
The Infinite Way
Florence Scovel Shinn
The Game of Life and How to Play It
Louise Hay
Neville Goddard
Your Faith is Your Fortune
Rhonda Byrne
The Magic
Viktor Frankl
Tony Robbins

Quotes:
“We are products of our thinking and our thoughts. If you don’t like your reality, then change your thoughts” Steve Maxwell
“Jiu-jitsu is really about survival, not beating someone up, but surviving.” Steve Maxwell
“I’m not motivated at all. I train and eat properly because I know it’s good for me, and because I know it's what I should do. I do it as a discipline. The discipline comes from intention. Do I have goals? Not really, I intend to be the best I can be can be at every age.” Steve Maxwell

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What would it be like if you had to pack up everything you own and move to the other side of the world, how long do you think would it take? A month? A week? About 10 minutes?

On this two part episode of The Hollow Tube podcast, we bring you Steve Maxwell. Michael first heard about Steve four years ago on Joe Rogan, and ever since then he knew he wanted to talk to him.

He's is a true citizen of the world. He travels the globe with everything he owns in a 30 liter backpack teaching Gracie Jiu-jitsu, physical fitness, and functional mobility. We connected with him while he was in Moscow.

On this episode, Steve is going to take us through the history of Jiu Jitsu and how he got involved with the legendary Gracie family. He’ll explain how he became a minimalist and what it took to go from living in a big four story brownstone in Philadelphia to living out of his small backpack all over the world.

Steve’s also going to reveal his morning routine and teach us the "secret breathing techniques” of the jiu jitsu masters that we can use to improve our physical fitness, athletic performance, and prolong our lives.

Topics Discussed Today
[04:09] Steve is a digital nomad who roams the world with everything he owns on his back. He teaches Gracie Jiu jitsu and self defense.
[04:58] Steve shares what is in his backpack. Clothes, toiletries, and a workout device.
[06:47] Steve has gis stashed all over the world.
[07:39] Steve grew up in a humble home and always liked things to be simple.
[09:41] As a family man, Steve accumulated a lot of things. He discovered that the stuff begins to own you. You don't own the stuff.
[10:17] After his divorce, he lived in a camper van for three years.
[12:33] When you become a minimalist, you really own your stuff. Steve was really feeling the weight of his possessions. He didn't start out with a small backpack. He started with a wheeled carrier that was much too big and heavy to lug around.
[13:47] Tom Bihn bags are really great bags.
[15:09] All of Steve's clothes can be washed in the sink of a hotel, and they will be dry in a couple of hours.
[16:39] The Japanese created a new style of jiu jitsu called judo. Brazilian jiu jitsu is like judo in a time capsule. Judo became an Olympic sport. Brazilian jiu jitsu or judo became a fighting sport.
[18:25] Brazilian jiu jitsu is ground fighting.
[18:49] Steve trained with the Gracie family.
[20:00] A lot of the techniques were modified for the smaller guy. Gracie jiu jitsu is an educational style with an emphasis on self-preservation and self-defense.
[20:31] Brazilian jiu jitsu is more of a sport.
[23:38] The jiu jitsu masters always choose nasal breathing and never ran out of breath.
[26:06] Mouth breathing literally shaves years off of your life. Awareness is the first step to correction. You may have to take a couple steps back before moving forward.
[27:04] Learn to breathe through the diaphragm and only breathe through your nose.
[28:22] Special ops teams train their forces with breath work.
[29:14] Start with walking and read The Oxygen Advantage.
[35:30] The 10 second rule is if you can't make something work within 10 seconds, you should let it go.
[36:30] Train within your breath. If you get out of breath, your training too hard.
[42:33] Steve begins his morning routine with various massages of the eyes and the head and the ears and eye exercises. He does clicking of the teeth and tongues rolls. He does thyroid massage and tapping various pressure points in the body.
[43:50] He also does various massage of the organs and pressure points. He also does mobility drills.
[46:22] In Steve's former life, he felt like something was missing. When he was at work. He wanted to be home. When he was home. He wanted to be at work. He and his wife were drifting apart.
[46:55] After he and his wife broke up, and he got over the initial shock. It was almost like a feeling of relief.
[47:23] Not everyone should be a minimalist, but it wouldn't hurt to take a hard look at the materialism in your life.
[52:01] When Steve gets sick, he goes in a dark room and rests and fasts and lets his body heal. He doesn't really believe in doctors.
[53:52] Conscious breathing is a real thing.
[54:00] Three action steps:
[54:06] The nose is for breathing, the mouth is for eating.
[54:47] Train within the breath.
[55:26] The more you own, the more it owns you.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Steve Maxwell
Steve Maxwell on Facebook
@SteveMaxwellSC on Twitter
Steve Maxwell on Instagram
Tom Bihn
The Oxygen Advantage: The simple, scientifically proven breathing technique that will revolutionise your health and fitness
Toxemia Explained: The True Interpretation of the Cause of Disease
Health Via Food
Stuart Wilde
The Journey Beyond Enlightenment: The Next Step in Your Personal Transformation
Silent Power
Infinite Self: 33 Steps to Reclaiming Your Inner Power
The Art of Meditation by Stuart Wilde
As a Man Thinketh
John Randolph Price
Ernest Holmes
Joel S. Goldsmith
Florence Scovel Shinn
Louise Hay
Neville Goddard
Rhonda Byrne
The Magic (Secret (Rhonda Byrne))
Joe Rogan
Gracie Jiu Jitsu

Quotes:
“I was very happy wearing the same three t-shirts and same three pairs of shorts every day.” Steve Maxwell
“If I couldn't get everything in my apartment moved in 20 minutes, I had too much stuff.” Steve Maxwell
“The stuff begins to own you. You don't own the stuff.” Steve Maxwell

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Remember that book Pat and I were raving about, “Never Split the Difference" written by the former FBI hostage negotiator, Chris Voss? Brandon Voss is his son, and he’s the unsung hero behind the book. The book never would have happened without him.
Brandon and his dad, Chris built their company, the Black Swan Group from the ground up. The Black Swan where Fortune 500 companies send their leaders to learn the art and science of negotiation.

Every father wants to be their son’s hero, and every son wants his dad to be proud of him and on this episode of The Hollow Tube were going to bring you a son who made his father very proud. This week on the Hollow Tube we bring you Brandon Voss, Director of Operations of The Black Swan Group.

Ever wonder what it would be like to have an FBI Hostage negotiator for a dad? Brandon’s going to tell us. He’s also going explain some of the subtleties of negotiation skills, such as mirroring, labeling and how to discover the Black Swan.
We’ll learn how these Jedi mind tricks can help us in everyday life. I've used them myself with some great successes and some miserable failures. Brandon explains where I messed up. I really enjoyed talking to Brandon. He’s cool, funny and he made these negotiation concepts easy for me to understand with real life examples.

Topics Discussed Today
[05:52] The closeness and camaraderie between Brandon and his dad reminds Michael of the closeness he has with Parker.
[07:28] Brandon was an only child. Even though, he wanted siblings he now cherishes his childhood.
[08:22] Using that's right as opposed to you're right. From a negotiation context, you want to create the feeling and emotion of that's right.
[10:37] Brandon talks about getting out of people's way as a linebacker and how it made him feel and using the term that's right.
[11:22] Brandon has been negotiating with his dad since he was two years old.
[12:07] Brandon talks about how they put the book together. It started with an idea, and then they had to go through several writers.
[13:52] Brandon shares how he got in trouble with the principle for being out of uniform at his school. He was able to talk his way out of it using empathy.
[16:27] Michael explains how he used the same tactic when he was a resident.
[17:04] There is a direct relationship between emotional intelligence and success.
[17:24] Being aware of your own emotions and in control of those emotions no matter what the context.
[17:52] Controlling yourself in the moment is one of the hardest parts of negotiation. You've got to get comfortable with being uncomfortable.
[18:15] The second half of emotional intelligence as being acutely aware of the emotional state of the people in your environment and then being able to influence that emotional state.
[19:22] Vocalize your understanding in words that the person would use themselves.
[21:09] Keep labels or verbal observations neutral.
[22:52] Active listening and asking open ended questions. Be consistent and don't let your own thoughts and your own emotions get in the way.
[24:22] Michael shares a story of how the concepts in the book helped him talk to a patient. The patient's black swan was that he was afraid he would become a burden to his wife when he started having health issues.
[27:04] A black swan is a piece of information that, if discovered, will completely change an outcome.
[29:12] It's human nature to like affirmations and to feel significant.
[29:43] Tactical empathy is the application of emotional intelligence in negotiation.
[30:33] Our version of empathy is similar to cognitive empathy talked about in the book Focus.
[31:13] Brandon and his dad built the business together. They recorded classes at Georgetown. Brandon was a TA and then he filled in for Chris.
[32:33] Brandon tells a story about the first time he filled in for his dad. He was actually in the process of working on a camera issue and his dad wanted him to come down and explain a case study.
[33:22] They now teach the workshops together. They always have two instructors and teach as a team, because they play off of each other well.
[35:07] To retain the information they encourage people to choose one skill and work on it on one day of the week.
[37:14] Practicing on a significant other is probably the most difficult of all.
[38:01] Brandon is about to get married and his future wife is also their director of marketing.
[40:55] People don't make you mad. Chemical reactions happen internally. You can control them, to some degree.
[41:44] Michael talks about the sweat lodges and medicine man Willem Wout De Klerk and how he talks about dropping blame and breathing before reacting.
[46:12] Sign up for the Black Swan Newsletter to find out about any upcoming events.
[46:25] At the events, they survey the group to get a feel for any communication challenges that they might have. They then use that information to build exercises.
[47:45] Check yourself before you wreck yourself. Self-awareness is critical.
[49:26] Use tactical empathy to get leverage. Understand where the other person is coming from even if you don't agree with their point of view.
[50:06] Forget about being right. You're right often means the person is giving power to you while protecting themselves. It also means the conversation is over.
[51:43] Pick a day of the week to work on a different skill.

  • Monday - Mirroring
  • Tuesday - Labeling
  • Wednesday - Ask Calibrated Questions
  • Thursday - Go for a That's Right
  • Friday Night - You can work on your late night FM Radio DJ voice
  • Remember- slow it down

[52:44] Brandon gives a shout out to his fiancée and his audio engineer back in the day.
[54:41] Thanks to Jane and Sue from Scottsdale, Chris and Jamie from Tucson, Melissa from Missouri, and Karla from Arkansas.
[53:00] Internationally, we thank our friends from France, Russia, India, and Ireland.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Episode 54 Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It
Never Split the Difference
The Black Swan Group
Focus: The Hidden Driver of Excellence
@BVoss1 on Twitter
@VossNegotiation on Twitter
The Black Swan Group on Facebook
Never Eat Alone, Expanded and Updated: And Other Secrets to Success, One Relationship at a Time
Episode 50 Interview With a Medicine Man Willem Wout De Klerk
Black Swan Newsletter

Quotes:
“My father is there when I need him. His mentorship and our closeness lifts me up.” Brandon Voss
“My parents worked really hard to instill good values in me.” Brandon Voss
“Use emotional intelligence and explain that you understand why the person is unhappy and then just go silent.” Brandon Voss

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Have you ever bought a treadmill or a set of weights and used it as a clothes rack?

Have you ever wanted to be a writer, a speaker or a nurse? Have you ever wanted to make music or start a new business? Perhaps a stem cell company? Have you ever had a vision of the person that you might become but just can't take the steps to move forward and realize that vision? If so, you are not alone. We've all been through it.

Resistance is what is keeping us from realizing our dreams. Resistance with a capital r is a universal force that keeps us from putting our ass where our heart is. Resistance has one job - to destroy creativity and sabotage aspirations. Resistance is the most dangerous and destructive force there is.

On this episode, we're bringing back Chad Smith. Chad was featured on Episode 29 a Moment of Clarity. Chad overcame drug addiction, and now he has aspirations of becoming a world renowned DJ and writing and producing his own music. Today, we identify the Resistance and what is holding Chad back. We also share tips on how to beat that Resistance and go from an amateur to a pro.

Topics Discussed Today
[03:24] Michael shares the humbling experience of trying to start a new job at the VA after having a detached retina. He shares the very moment he decided to turn pro and the no BS encouragement he received from Dr. Patrick O'Brien, and how Dr. Aubrey Baker wouldn't cut him any slack.
[08:17] Beating Resistance and Turning Pro with Chad Smith.
[11:42] Resistance is the force that keeps hanging us up. The more virtuous our impulse, the greater the force of Resistance.
[12:28] Chad shares how resistance is affecting him in several aspects of his life.
[12:36] Chad is a DJ and he produces his own original music.
[14:36] Chad shares how Resistance is making writing music more and more difficult for him.
[16:13] Understanding the concepts and getting more knowledge about how Resistance works is helping Chad to understand how to overcome and push through it.
[19:13] Chad makes two hours a day for gym time.
[20:11] He is thinking about doing some of his writing at a coffee shop and treating it more like an office experience.
[21:14] Sitting down every day is professional doing it once in awhile is amateur.
[23:13] How persistence is one of the keys to preventing Resistance. Not setting a clear goal is one of the problems that people have when they struggle with accomplishing something.
[24:23] Break things down. Find goal oriented markers and hit those steps.
[25:13] Your specific goal has to be rigorous.
[26:35] How all artists struggle with confidence and whether their work is good or not. It’s really about just doing it.
[27:41] Chad shares his sentinel vision.
[29:20] Chad wants to tap into the spiritual thing that music does for him.
[30:05] To get creativity to flow through you, you need to show up every day.
[31:25] Patrick had a goal of being called doctor. He also upped the ante and wanted to be first in his class.
[31:58] His sentinel goal for his stem cell clinic is to have an IPO. He wants to be the preeminent leader in stem cell-based orthopedic medicine.
[33:13] Do whatever it takes to go deep into projects. People who really care about you will support you.
[33:42] Using dogged determination to complete a tangible goal.
[36:53] The power of controlled nervousness.
[39:57] How important it is to set your workspace up as a sacred space.
[42:09] Have a crystal vision, figure out the secret, and invest yourself mind, body, and soul.
[43:57] Competing with your own mind and slicing Resistance to bits.
[45:01] Chad likes the idea of treating himself like a business and starting every week asking what his business needs to accomplish.
[47:39] The beauty of coming in humble and letting your performance speak for you.
[48:01] A pro is able to self validate and always growing and learning.
[49:33] Patrick is developing critical mass for his stem cell center. People are excited about it including Lindon Leader.
[49:43] Once people come along for the ride you are unstoppable.
[49:54] A pro helps others. Always have a mentor and always be a mentor.
[54:40] Going all in and doing it for the love of the work itself. If so, everything works itself out.
[56:57] Turning pro isn't a big mystery, it's just an act of will.
[58:23] Action Steps: Get The War of Art and Turning Pro by Steven Pressfield.
[58:45] Answer these 3 questions in your Hollow Tube notebook: What’s the one thing you would be doing if Resistance wasn’t holding you back? How is Resistance showing up in your life? What is one small step you can take right now to beat Resistance?

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
The War of Art
Turning Pro
Books by Steven Pressfield
The Legend of Bagger Vance
Chad Smith featured on Episode 29: A Moment of Clarity
Lindon Leader

Quotes:
“The starting tomorrow thing is Resistance and that is what hangs all of us up.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Have a clear vision of what you want to accomplish. One of the keys to preventing Resistance is persistence.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Music is my passion and my calling. I have been seeing a lot of Resistance lately. Especially, when it comes to sitting down and writing.” Chad Smith
"Most of us have two lives. The life we live and the unlived life within us. Between the two stands Resistance.” Steven Pressfield.

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There is power in story. Story can be used to introduce, persuade, influence, and more. Michael kicks off the show with a story about the lowest point in his life. He recently attended a public speaking workshop by football great Bo Eason and this was the assignment. This point is what Patrick and Michael have referred to as a sentinel event in past episodes.

Exciting things are happening for Patrick with his medical practice and his new stem cell clinic. He met with his first patient who is the father in law of one of his partners. Patrick also shares his vision for being a leader in stem cell therapy and always making sure things are done in an ethical way. He also talks about the importance of being able to recognize and act on opportunities when they present themselves.

Topics Discussed Today
[05:44] What if you could use your story to influence and inspire others? Telling your story can carry everything you do in life.
[06:27] Patrick had his first CurPoint patient today. He was looking at him not only from the perspective of a doctor but also the perspective of a scientist.
[10:01] Michael can envision Patrick telling his story to introduce and explain the benefits of his new stem cell clinic CurPoint.
[10:27] Patrick wants to be a leader in stem cell therapy but do it the right way and ethical way.
[11:25] Patrick and Michael both have a growth mindset.There are a lot of exciting things on the horizon for both of them. They are frequently going through personal and professional reinventions.
[11:59] The importance of spotting opportunities and being willing to act upon them.
[12:44] Taking care of patients is a job for Patrick. He is living out his calling.
[13:22] Most of the doctors Michael's age are thinking about retiring. Michael doesn't think he'll ever retire he will just move on to his next thing.
[13:54] One of the things he sees himself doing is public speaking.
[14:03] He went to a speaking conference that was held by Bo Eason the former pro football player.
[14:47] Bo Eason asked Al Pacino what does it take to be the best and Al Pacino's reply was you have to have more stage hours than anyone else.
[15:32] Bo now does public speaking and workshops where he teaches people about the power of story.
[16:12] Michael has been preparing for this workshop since May. The assignment was you have to write a story about the lowest point in your life. This is what we've referred to in the past the sentinel events.
[16:32] Sentinel events are beyond seminal events. A sentinel is more like a guardian, because they are transformative.
[17:32] Sentinel points are major life-changing events. We may only have 3 to 5 of them in our lifetimes.
[17:53] Sentinel goals are things that we have preordained and visualized and achieved through a lot of hard work.
[18:19] Sentinel events are random and unplanned.
[21:09] How Chris Voss used trial and error as a negotiator.
[22:28] The story of how people rise up through the ashes. No one cares about someone who has never had to struggle. The journey is watching someone transform and come out a better person.
[24:10] When telling your story don't come off as a victim.
[24:43] Using victimhood to put power and control over people. The elite state can control the victims.
[26:56] The only way to grow is to feel discomfort and get out of your comfort zone.
[27:27] The great stories are in the editing. It's not when there's something left to add its when there's nothing left to remove.
[29:21] The key to being a master is finding out what you can be a master of. You have to have a clear vision and have a propensity for that activity.
[29:54] You also need the constant feedback of a coach.
[30:34] Find the best and emulate them. If you have the aptitude for it your body will adjust.
[34:57] The first instinct to consider is the emotional. Michael was really nervous leading up to sharing his story at the event.
[37:47] There's a difference between rehearsing and reliving. When you relive an experience you put yourself back into that emotional space.
[38:08] Gaining control of that emotion makes your story unstoppable.
[39:52] Michael signed up with an acting coach, and he signed up to give a series of talks at the University of Arizona.This will force him to get through his fear of presenting something personal.
[40:56] There are three critical steps to any presentation. Number one: Come out of the blocks with a story.
[41:32] The second thing is to train on three critical steps and back them up with a story.
[43:31] Make your offer and then close with another story.
[45:52] How there is really one true sentence to summarize your story.
[47:42] Use the space between, so you don't step on your story.
[48:08] When you have a dream take massive action the rest of the stuff will figure itself out along the way. The hardest part is starting.
[49:09] How happiness is just a construct that we have invented.
[50:00] A sense of peace and accomplishment is from achieving something.
[50:33] You have to enjoy what you're doing and love the process.
[53:48] There's nothing in the future that will make you happy you have to enjoy the process of living.
[54:11] Happiness is a state of mind that is found in the present moment.
[55:58] Patrick has a birthday coming up tomorrow. Birthdays are irrelevant to him, he is thinking about the next goal he wants to accomplish.
[58:00] A letter from Martha Graham to Agnes DeMille.
[59:53] The next time you are at an event try answering questions with a story.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Bo Eason
Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It
Peak: Secrets from the New Science of Expertise
Bo Eason Personal Story Power Event
Lindon Leader
Martha Graham
Agnes DeMille

Quotes:
“Your walking around right now with everything you need to make yourself better. I’m going to put you in a position to be successful.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“What I liked most about Bo Eason was the way he coaches. He speaks in short fast sentences like a football or basketball coach.” Dr. Michael Bays
“We are trying to analyze everything from a patient centric standpoint and this is just one more arrow in our quiver.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The more personal your story the better, because people can see you in your story.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Negotiation is something that we do on a daily basis whether we realize it or not. Most human interactions are negotiations on some level. Michael recently read Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It by Chris Voss. Chris had an interesting story of how he became a high-stakes FBI negotiator after having a knee injury that prevented him from staying on the SWAT team.

Chris started out working a suicide prevention hotline and went on to negotiate hostage situations and more. In his book, Chris shares the tactics of negotiation that apply whether it is a hostage situation or trying to get a child to do something. We talk about some of these tactics including mirroring, labeling, slowing it down, and using the right voice. Michael recommends listening to the audio book and then reading the printed book for further study into these useful life lessons.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:07] Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It by Chris Voss.
[02:50] This book was recommended to Michael by Dr. James Rough. Chris Voss was an FBI negotiator and he shares real life examples and relates them to real life.
[03:26] The audio book is really great. Then Michael bought the hard copy and really started studying the strategy.
[04:12] One of the reviews Patrick read said that life is basically a negotiation. Even as a doctor, talking to a patient is a negotiation.
[06:02] An accusation audit. The defense will try to get everything out at the beginning so that the other attorney can't get you.
[08:03] Chris Voss liked the excitement of the SWAT team, then he had a knee injury and thought he would try hostage negotiation.
[08:55] Voss volunteered at a suicide hotline founded by Norman Vincent Peale.
[09:37] How a poor mentee is someone who doesn't take advice from their mentor.
[10:17] Patrick buried his ego and became a candy striper for the summer.
[11:40] Bank robbery negotiations are very rare. This was one of Chris Voss's first negotiations.
[12:53] Compromise is a bad word when it comes to negotiation. Your goal is to get what you want while the other guy feels good about it.
[15:49] How 9/11 changed the rules when it comes to hijacking and hostage negotiations. Going along and cooperating is no longer an option.
[16:25] It's impossible to negotiate with a suicidal wanna be martyr.
[17:13] How Oprah had the skill to disarm people and get them to talk openly.
[17:34] Psychics and palm readers would also be good negotiators, because they are so great at reading body language.
[18:47] Calm the schizophrenic. How we engage in selecting listening and have cognitive bias.
[20:27] Use active listening to totally focus on what the other person is saying.
[20:49] Slowing down the process also calms things down. Don't talk over each other.
[22:55] Have the self-awareness to slow things down.
[25:11] Use your late night FM radio DJ voice. Be calm and reasonable.
[27:09] Kaci is a master at the positive playful voice.
[28:07] Use the command voice very rarely. In surgery everything you do is a demand. The command voice may not work for negotiating with a spouse or a teenager.
[30:04] Marrying or isopraxism, this immediately establishes rapport.
[31:36] Mirroring is conscious or unconscious where we are doing the same thing as the other person.
[32:19] Mimicry study where waiters got higher tips by repeating what the customer said.
[33:03] Mirroring is repeating the last three words or the critical 1 to 3 words that a person says.
[33:54] Start with I'm sorry, then mirror, and then give it 4 seconds of silence.
[37:47] Tactical Empathy. Empathy is the ability to recognize the other perspective of the counterpart, and the vocalization of that recognition
[37:57] Paying attention to another human being, asking what they are feeling, and making a commitment to understand their world.
[40:31] Labeling. When you understand the person's feelings, where they are coming from, and respectfully and calmly repeat it back to them. Validating an emotion by labeling it.
[42:33] Don't use "I". Make it about the other person, not you.
[43:32] The four second rule. After using your label just stop and let it sit.
[45:04] Get the other person to say, “That’s right." You get a “that’s right” when you summarize the situation from the other person's point of view.
[46:09] Practice these skills when you are calm and then when you really need them, they will be second nature.
[48:29] How a lot of people negotiate thinking about their bottom line. There is a tried-and-true formula to get the absolute most out of the deal.
[50:06] Black swans are the unknown unknowns. Something that's out there, but you don't know about it.
[52:15] Get the other person to talk and sooner or later they will reveal their black swan.
[54:06] We should build up a Masters series with great guests like Chris Voss and Lindon Leader.
[55:37] Shout Outs: Good luck to Parker Bays competing in Nationals, Dr. John Symms my new resident from the University of Arizona, Dr. James Rough- plastic surgeon.
[57:13] Thanks to Friends in Scottsdale (Jane, Sue), San Francisco, Oakland and Ireland.
[57:50] Action Steps: Do a 40 Day Tactical Empathy Challenge

  • andTry Mirroring
  • Try some labeling
  • Try FM radio DJ voice
  • Remember- slow it down

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Never Split the Difference: Negotiating As If Your Life Depended On It
John F. Kennedy School of Government
TWA Flight 800
Jill Carroll
The Power of Positive Thinking: 10 Traits for Maximum Results
Kaci Bays
Mimicry for money: Behavioral consequences of imitation
Circa 79 Salon
Episode 028 – How to Survive Anything Life Throws at You

Quotes:
“Everything in life is a negotiation. Anytime you are trying to convince someone to do something it is a negotiation.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Whenever you want something ask the right person what to do, and then do what they tell you to do.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Anytime we ever want something it is a negotiation. It is one of our animalistic urges.” Dr. Patrick Bays

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Patrick’s new stem cell company CurPoint Orthopedic Cell Based Medicine is already getting calls and interest. They have their new Orthoscan C-Arm and an ultrasound expert is one of his partners. Patrick just hired a back office person who will also be a surgical assistant. They plan to become the premier provider of stem cell therapy and then take their processes to other cities.

Michael caught up with Matt Prater the kicker for the Detroit Lions and recorded a 15 minute interview with him. Matt Prater is married to Kaci’s niece. He has stayed at Michael’s house, and Michael was at his wedding. Matt Prater has the NFL record for the longest field goal and the most field goal conversions at 50 yards or more and 55 yards or more. We talk about being a master of the craft in your life.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:15] CurPoint Orthopedic Cell Based Medicine is Patrick's new stem cell company. He already has patients calling in for appointments.
[04:10] Things are going well. They are really excited.
[04:16] The staff is training on the C-Arm this week. Then they will have training on the stem cells and the centrifuge process.
[05:15] There are very few people in the world using C-Arms or fluoroscopic guidance for stem cell aspiration.
[05:48] Using these tools is like having real-time x-rays.
[10:20] Michael caught up with Matt Prater in Colorado. Matt set the NFL field goal record when he was playing with the Denver Broncos. He also has the NFL record for the most field goal conversions at 50 yards or more and 55 or more.
[11:45] Matt always comes through in a clutch. This is a characteristic of greatness.
[12:57] An interview with Matt Prater of the Detroit Lions.
[14:07] When Matt performs he expects success and doesn't doubt himself.
[14:23] The difference for Matt is thinking positive and expecting positive results.
[15:17] Matt started kicking in high school. His dad saw that he had a talent for it.
[16:01] The chances of making it into the NFL are .01%.
[16:22] Matt is working on his 12th season, and he is still dedicated to his craft and always trying to improve.
[18:35] Matt had an ability and found the gift that he had.
[18:51] Before every game Matt looks through a scrapbook of family pictures and mentally zones in and relaxes.
[19:27] Matt will support his son whether he chooses to play football or dance ballet.
[20:46] Matt will be as involved with his son sports as his son wants him to be.
[21:06] Parenthood changes everything. Your priorities go from yourself and your career to being all about the kids.
[23:19] It's good to set goals. Setting realistic goals for yourself and your team is a great idea for reaching and achieving those goals.
[23:44] Matt is spending his Sunday moving and packing and having family time.
[25:29] How kids teach us how to be better parents if we listen.
[26:56] Having the mentality of expecting success and not doubting yourself. This is exactly what a great athlete would say.
[28:02] Preparation is the key so you won't snap under pressure.
[28:44] Being prepared is confidence.
[28:47] Matt gets into a positive mentality by having experience and learning from failure.
[28:58] He also puts everything into perspective and thinks about his family and his kids.
[29:18] When things were the darkest for Patrick, he would always step back and look at what was the most important.
[29:36] The only person's opinions who matter are your type ones.
[30:07] Matt was a late bloomer, and it didn't dawn on him that he was good at football until his junior year in high school.
[30:47] Matt was a walk-on as an undrafted free agent.
[35:40] What it takes to be a master. Part of it comes to longevity, because it takes time to master your craft.
[36:21] Brilliance, excellence, and consistency over time.
[37:54] Great quarterbacks like Tom Brady have already diagnosed a defense before the ball is snapped.
[40:11] The odds of getting drafted into the pros are extremely low. Matt’s secret was constant dedication to his craft.
[40:49] He films and analyzes all of his kicks both good and bad.
[42:47] How luck and grace come from being prepared.
[44:30] Shaquem Griffin is missing a hand. He had amniotic band syndrome and had his hand surgically amputated when he was four years old.
[50:10] It seemed like Matt's dad was a mentor for him.
[50:44] Using books and information as your mentors. Thomas Edison did this.
[52:52] Parker works hard and enjoys the process of getting a bit better. It's all numerical and chasing another number.
[54:13] Being in the zone and having your prefrontal cortex shut down and all your inhibitions leave.
[56:01] Preparation leads to relaxation.The more relaxed you are the better you perform.
[59:19] Doing the best and being the best you can. Finish what you started or else quitting will become a habit. Persisting is what grows your character.
[01:01:18] Shout outs and thanks to Matt for doing the interview.
[01:01:35] A shout out to Parker Patrick and Michael are really proud of him for sticking with it.
[01:03:00] Thanks to all of our listeners.
[01:03:29] A 40 day self-evaluation challenge. At the end of the day, ask yourself: What did I do well today? and What could I have done better?

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Detroit Lions Matt Prater
Matt Prater
@MattPrater_5 on Twitter
Bo Eason
Tom Brady
Louis Pasteur
Peyton Manning
Tim Tebow
Jim Brown
Shaquem Griffin
Thomas Edison
Mastery

Quotes:
“The biggest thing for me is having them mentality of expecting success and not doubting myself. When you expect to make it, you are going to make it.” Matt Prater
“CurPoint is destined to be the leader and preferred provider in the industry.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Patrick is definitely the needle master. My shoulder hasn’t hurt at all since the injections.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Every summer I take Parker to visit his Uncle Pat in Seattle. This has become our tradition. This year Kaci and Parker’s girlfriend, Olivia, joined us. The first thing that hits me once we arrive is the smell of that crisp, Pacific Northwest air. It instantly brings me back. I think that’s what I love most about Seattle.

There's also something really special about that 30-minute ferry ride to Bainbridge Island. We park Pat’s black BMW 750i and head up to the passenger deck to catch up over a glass of wine. There is this moment as we watch the Seattle skyline get smaller, and we realize that we’ve left our hectic lives behind for a week. It's like hitting the reset button. There’s nothing like it.

This podcast was recorded live from uncle Pat’s back deck on our last morning. We were able to convince Kaci to put on the headphones and pull up a microphone to help us recap our week.

We cover everything from the World War II historical sites we visited to the pros and cons of Tiger Walking. We'll tell you where to find the most delicious Asian noodles ever and the best clam chowder in Seattle.

Remember when Uncle Pat nearly burned down his man cave? We went there to inspect the aftermath. And finally, my brother, Dr. Patrick Bays - The Needle Master - reveals the name of his new stem cell company.

And now without further ado, here is Uncle Pat, Kaci and yours truly live from Pat's back deck on Bainbridge Island.

Topics Discussed Today
[03:40] Michael, Patrick and Kaci live from Pat's deck.
[04:26] They are sitting on a high bluff overlooking a ravine. Pat purchased the house because of the great view. They can see ships and the Space Needle.
[05:44] This is where the first podcast started.
[06:13] Michael's morning routine is sprinkling bird food on the railing and watching the squirrels eat while the ships come in.
[09:42] Michael accidentally left a door open this morning and another squirrel went into Pat's house, but Michael was able to coax it back outside.
[10:00] They went to Port Townsend where they make boats. They have a favorite Asian Noodle place they go to. They also discovered an open mic night featuring people from all over the country.
[14:21] An Officer and a Gentleman was filmed in Port Townsend.
[14:38] Double Jeopardy was also filmed there.
[15:08] They went to Lynnwood and visited the Japanese Memorial.
[15:37] An eagle just flew by right on cue.
[16:06] Bainbridge is a beautiful place to live and a lot of the Amazon employees are moving their.
[16:34] The Bainbridge ferry ride is perfect for unwinding.
[16:54] They went to Pike Place Market and they had clam chowder at Jack's world's famous crab shack.
[18:06] Jack has been there since 1982, and he is now performing with Paul Simon's band.
[19:39] Having a sentinel goal in mind and sometimes getting distracted by life.
[20:44] Everybody went over to Pats new office and got injected.
[21:03] Kaci has tennis elbow.
[23:16] Anne Boleyn was beheaded by a professional swordsman. Patrick uses a similar technique and never allows the patient to see the needle.
[23:50] The pain in Kaci's elbow is almost completely gone.
[24:36] Michael was pleasantly surprised by Patrick's needlework. He is the Needle Master.
[25:04] The key with injections is to use the smallest needle that man makes. Like a 30 gauge needle. Take your time and use some Lidocaine.
[27:08] The big reveal.... the new name is CurPoint. Lindon Leader felt that each word was very pictorial and people would know exactly what they were talking about.
[28:17] Patrick is working on everything to get the business open, and he and Michael are going to train on stem cells.
[29:41] The FDA is cracking down on charlatan stem cell clinics.
[30:05] At CurPoint in Seattle the stem cells will be taken from bone marrow C-Arm under strict surgical operative conditions. Everything will be surgically based.
[31:11] The two components are the extraction of the stem cells and injecting the stem cells into soft tissue. They will be using ultrasound to see exactly where the stem cells are going.
[32:19] They went to the Japanese Internment Memorial in Lynnwood.
[33:04] About a 150,000 Japanese Americans were sent to internment camps after we declared war on Japan.
[33:33] Bainbridge Gardens was started by one of the individuals in the internment camp.
[34:42] At the high school graduation, they left some seats empty in honor of the high school kids who were shipped off to the internment camps.
[35:02] They put the Japanese kids who were on the baseball team all in the game before they were shipped off, so they could at least have played.
[35:22] If you're ever on Bainbridge Island, make sure to take a trip down to this museum.
[36:34] They took Parker to the local high school to practice shot put and discus.
[37:41] Parker threw the shot put out probably about 50 feet. Patrick had a personal best of 17 feet. Michael did about 24 feet and injured his of the rotator cuff.
[38:20] Pat and Michael also had a pull up competition. Patrick has a swan like technique. They also had a self-defense demonstration. Which ties into their situational awareness podcast episode.
[41:04] Patrick would switch to instant aggression in that situation. Michael would plan a strategy.
[42:33] Tiger Walks and Michael cowering in the dishwasher.
[43:25] Tiger Walking is planting your toe first and then your heel.
[46:16] Everybody went to the man cave or the sight of the fire. Patrick is limited to two candles there now. They played pool and drank scotch. They also watched movies in Pat's theater room.
[47:42] The wanted to watch a scary movie and chose Mother. It was one of the worst movies that they have ever seen.
[48:35] Michael probably dropped ten calibrations of consciousness by watching the movie Mother.
[49:01] Surprisingly, this movie got some good reviews. This movie was terrible. We would love your feedback on this movie.
[53:03] Life is not always going to be a direct flight. Enjoy the journey and experience what is around you.
[53:59] Casey has learned that uncle Pat has a construction addiction, and they need a reality show called My Next Project.
[54:45] Patrick is very goal oriented and probably took it to the next level with his house.
[55:29] Everyone has had a great time and has loved visiting uncle Pat at his house on Bainbridge Island. It has been great having Parker and Olivia around.
[56:00] Shout outs to Amy Wheeler and Tyson Neilson.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Kaci Bays
Port Townsend
Hanazono Asian Noodle
Jack’s Fish Spot
Pike Place Market
Joseph Campbell
Anne Boleyn
Lindon Leader
Bainbridge Gardens
Lessons from Lakota Elder Basil Braveheart
Situational Awareness and Leaving Yourself an Out
Mother

Quotes:
“We are living the dream.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“You can always keep your passion in your heart and always be working towards that without abandoning your responsibilities.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Following your passion is what you guys are doing with this podcast.” Kaci Bays

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I have a very special guest on the show today. My friend Willem Wout de Klerk. He is part Eastern mystic, part mountain man, and part medicine man. He is a master of sacred ceremony, and has dedicated his whole life to the Inipi or sweat lodge. I first met him at a friends house in Northern Arizona. We gathered to build a sweat lodge on the property.

He is an authorized medicine carrier of the North American Lakota. He has spent many years learning their sacred ceremonies under the guidance a lady called Grandma and Charles Chipps a descendant of the medicine man for Crazy Horse. He brought the Lakota traditions and ceremonies to my friends in Columbia. In this episode, we learn about the stones, the sundance, and more. This podcast begins with Willem showing Michael around his property in the Netherlands.

Topics Discussed Today
[05:30] Willem's home in Holland. He has a trailer out in the forest. He has family in the Netherlands.
[06:45] By leaving Willem actually helped people create responsibility for themselves.
[07:34] Without Willem's energy being there people have the opportunity to find their own truths.
[08:32] He had no expectations when he went back to the Netherlands.
[09:01] It's beautiful traveling back and forth between Colombia and the Netherlands. Thinks it comes full circle for him.
[10:05] Everything can be brought down to a few basic things that you should just allow.
[10:24] Anger, fear,sadness and insecurity, stillness, and true love.
[11:22] How we're always trying to get back to our divine sacred essence.
[11:57] By projecting yourself into the future you create your past.
[12:18] Everybody's fear is a fear of not being locked.
[14:25] We should allow children to be present and listen to their needs instead of putting fear, sadness or anger into their brains.
[15:40] How we already have expectations for children even before they are born.
[18:04] Every child born holds the highest vibration of consciousness.
[19:54] Set this is when your love is not being received. Then you realize that you are not allowing the love for yourself.
[20:24] Simply accept yourself for who you are what you are.
[23:50] Lightning between planets created the gorge on Mars.
[26:23] How our DNA is falling into the divine state. He has seen people go through amazing transformations.
[27:19] There is a shift in the consciousness of young people.
[28:01] A Sundance is a sacred ceremony. It's a way to get back to the earth and have gratitude.
[29:53] The moment you create an outside authority there is no more spirituality.
[37:05] An elder following the moon is open to allowing women in the sweat lodge.
[41:21] When we understand the process of the brain we come into alignment with our presence. It's all about relaxing into your breath.
[43:51] A movement of awareness. How we are constantly being bombarded with fear, doubt, and anxieties.
[44:47] We still need to listen to the children.
[45:42] You can't change the world, but you can change your presence. If you change your presence the world around you changes.
[46:46] Living the truth simply because that is what makes you feel good.
[49:23] Give yourself a different understanding to change the timeline. The physical world we know now comes from a certain frame of mind.
[50:00] We should step back from the constructs of our mind and reprogram the brain.
[50:14] Stop repeating the stories of the past because you are just confirming everything.
[52:59] The process of empathy and having women dancing in the Sundance when they are having their moon.
[01:00:33] How the Western mind has lost the tribal understanding. Reconnecting to the consciousness. Everything is connected and we are all a reflection of the same thing.
[01:01:18] We're all the same, but our stories have made us into individuals.
[01:06:20] How coming out of the sweat lodges like being born.
[01:07:59] Ditching the cell phone and being present 100%.
[01:13:40] When you're feeling insecure or sad ask yourself what you need. Connect with the stillness between your breath. This connects you to the field of love from whence you came.
[01:14:59] Pat will be back next week. Taking us out is a traditional Lakota song by Calvin Standing Bear.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Frank Fools Crow
Tony Robbins
Wakan Olowan-Lakota Pipe Ceremonial & Spiritual Songs

Quotes:
“If you take care of the stones, they will take care of you.” Willem Wout De Klerk
“I had to step out of the equation, so people would step up to the plate and take responsibility.” Willem Wout De Klerk
“Your truth is the only thing that you can share.” Willem Wout De Klerk

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Mentors are trusted and experienced advisors to their protégé. We all need one-on-one mentorship at one time or another if we want to level up in life. This week Michael and Patrick breakdown the concept of mentorship and share personal stories of having a mentor or being a mentor.

We talk about why you would ever want to have a mentor. Why you would want to be a mentor, and how you can find a mentor. We talk about getting the most out of a mentor student relationship, and how having a mentor or being a mentor can change your life. We also catch up on Patrick’s stem cell project and branding and naming with designer Lindon Leader. We talk about how Patrick was one of Michael’s first mentors, and so much more on today’s show.

Topics Discussed Today
[03:26] Patrick gives us an update of his stem cell clinic. He is having an unveiling of his brand name with designer Lindon Leader on Friday.
[04:20] The naming comes first. Then it is time to work on the logo.
[05:07] Orthopedic regenerative medicine are the three descriptive words behind Patrick's business concept.
[06:42] Fluoroscopy or C-arm is a continuous X-ray that develops instantly on a monitor. Patrick wants a C-arm to see exactly what he is doing when aspirating bone marrow.
[10:24] Patrick is doing tried-and-true clinical treatments using stem cells.
[11:38] Lindon Leader is not only a logo person, he's a strategic marketer.
[12:49] How episode 48 was bittersweet for Michael.
[13:38] Michael was Saranya's mentor. Up to that time, he having been a mentor to anyone except his sons.
[14:03] Now being a mentor comes second nature to Michael.
[14:11] A mentor is a trusted or experienced advisor. It's a stepping stone on the way to mastering some element of your life.
[15:06] Patrick has had a number of mentors. His first mentor was his Little League coach who was a former major league player.
[17:00] Whenever Patrick didn't have a mentor, he would turn to books.
[17:56] Pistol Pete Maravich average 44 points per game. Second best ball handler. Patrick got to meet Pete right before he died at the young age of 44.
[21:56] One of Michael's first mentors was actually Patrick.
[22:53] Michael was actually with Patrick on the night that Patrick had his very first code blue.
[27:19] One of Michael's informal mentors is Dr. Andrew Weil. It's important to spend one-on-one time with your mentor.
[28:39] How learning by trial and error is the most inefficient way to acquire knowledge. The Mentor protégé relationship is one of the most efficient forms of acquiring knowledge.
[29:02] The transfer of knowledge. Always teaching the person below you and learning from the person above you.
[29:58] How medicine is like a built-in apprenticeship slash mentorship. The meaning of life is to teach.
[31:33] Good mentors teach you why they're doing things the way they are doing them. Once you understand the why, you understand.
[32:09] Mentors provide immediate realistic feedback.
[32:27] It's important to be a mentor, because we learn and grow by teaching.
[34:36] The qualities of a good student. The main one is you need to know yourself. You also have to have a desire to grow and a deep sense of humility.
[36:50] Experience, wisdom, and trust. These are the things Patrick wants his business to be known for.
[37:14] Doctors have less than two minutes to establish trust.
[38:38] The same thing applies for establishing trust when being a medical witness during a trial. Exuding a quiet confidence is the real secret to establishing trust.
[39:21] The importance of the way that you carry yourself.
[39:43] You have two minutes to make the impression that you need to make in order to win someone's confidence.
[40:36] Work on your two-minute presentation. The quietly confident and empathetic.
[41:19] Be the calm in the storm.
[42:58] When the going gets tough you have to be able to calmly get yourself out of trouble. This works for all walks of life even surgery.
[44:17] Qualities of a good mentor. Pays attention to reciprocal feedback. Knows when to let go.
[47:55] Choose a mentor for a specific reason. You have to think about what it is you need from your mentor.
[49:02] Serving as your own best mentor by self-modulating. The id and the ego.
[51:45] Constants and variables and how constants never change. Have the constants how you want them, so that you can solve the variables. Patrick's mentor Dr. Smith.
[53:42] Keep going that's how reputations are made.
[54:42] You want to have a mentor because of the emotional quality of the relationship.
[56:21] How the bar in the medical field is getting raised every year. The competition is very high.
[58:40] The mentor's job is to turn base metals into gold and in the process divulge some of the tricks of the trade.
[59:03] How to find and entice the right mentor. Work on yourself first. Be able to present yourself in the best light possible. Standout.
[01:00:43] You want person-to-person access. You have to think about what you need the most and what your mentor needs the most.
[01:01:19] One-on-one is so important because energy is transmitted on a vibrational level.
[01:02:38] The responsibility of the mentee is to ask questions and mine for gold.
[01:03:51] The goal of being a protégé is to surpass your masters ability.
[01:04:29] Absorbing everything you can from your mentor and going beyond their level.
[01:06:02] True masters are humble and don't have anything to prove.
[01:07:43] How teaching hospitals can be really great because sometimes you get the best care because the people there are really good at what they do.
[01:09:25] What do you do if you don't have anyone to be your mentor? Turn the books. Become your own teacher and mentor and become your own role model.
[01:10:54] Always be looking for role models.
[01:11:07] Think about one area in your life where you would like to improve and seek out a mentor.
[01:12:08] Patrick's mom was one of his foremost mentors.
[01:12:26] Michael shout out goes to Patrick.
[01:13:13] The mentor wants to put the mentee ahead because they have their best interest at heart.
[01:13:47] The best way to learn something is to teach it.
[01:15:51] Shoutouts to Audrey and Steve.
[01:17:53] A 40 day journaling challenge. Write down three things that you are grateful for.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
048 – Episode 047 an evening with Dr. Saranya Reghunathan
Lindon Leader
047 – The Disruptive Episode
Telemachus in Homer’s Odyssey
Thomas Edison
The Drive Within Me
Pistol Pete Maravich
Dr. Andrew Weil
Mastery by Robert Greene
Dr. Robert Cravens
Sigmund Freud
The Alchemist
Autobiography of a Yogi
Socrates
Aristotle
Plato
Michael Faraday
Tony Robbins
Bo Eason

Quotes:
“I’m a very cautious surgeon, and I want to give myself and my patients the very best chance of success.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Always have a mentor, and always be a mentor.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Words have meaning, names have power.” Lindon Leader
“We all need one-on-one guidance from a mentor if we truly want to level up professionally or personally in life” Dr. Michael Bays

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There is a saying, “ Always have a mentor and always be a mentor.”

Six years ago a brilliant young physician, Saranya Reghunathan, M.D. came to me and requested I be her mentor­. A mentor is defined as an experienced and trusted advisor who has the best interest of the protege at heart. There is significantly more to the role than just providing advice and guidance, and the role is not taken on lightly. It means being available and always having the back of the mentee. A mentor has a genuine interest the mentee as a person, and sometimes must weigh in on not only professional development, but personal development as well.

Dr. Reghunathan had just graduated from medical school and had aspirations of becoming an otolaryngologist, an ear, nose and throat surgeon, when we first met. She is now graduating from her residency training and will soon be starting her fellowship in Laryngology at the Cleveland Clinic to gain additional training in voice and airway disorders.

I can honestly say that I have learned and grown as a teacher over the past six years as a result of being a mentor. This episode was bittersweet for me because it means saying goodbye to Saranya.

Pat had a pleasure of meeting Dr. Reghunathan, when she attended a conference in Seattle, and he agrees that she is destined for great things.

On this episode we talk about everything from Saryana’s upbringing, her sources of inspiration, and even her struggles with her love life.

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Pat is back from his sabbatical in Salt Lake City and Park Lake City Utah. Patrick is starting a stem cell center in Seattle, and he was gathering information. He thinks he might be the only orthopedic surgeon in the State of Washington doing stem cell therapy. Every tissue in the body is made of stem cells. He is interested in using adult stem cells from bone marrow to heal degenerative disease.

We also get to hear about Patrick’s meeting with famed branding and logo designer Lindon Leader. We learn about what it truly means to be a disruptor and the importance of following your heart and not someone else's footsteps. This is a great episode chocked full of wisdom and synchronicities that get us one step closer to The Hollow Tube.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:54] The god particle started the whole shebang. In life, everything begins with stem cells.
[04:24] Dolly the sheep was cloned with stem cells.
[05:46] A single stem cell has the capacity to regenerate in perpetuity or forever. You can develop entire colonies of stem cells from one stem cell.
[06:09] You can program the stem cells in the laboratory to become whatever you want them to become.
[06:25] There are laboratories building large reservoirs of stem cells from fetal or embryonic tissue.
[07:01] People with diabetes have to inject insulin in order to maintain their blood sugar levels. You can create stem cells that will replace this need.
[07:33] Stem cells can even be implanted and reproduce a lost body part.
[07:50] Regenerative medicine means that we are using stem cells in order to get things to heal more quickly and more efficiently.
[08:06] Patrick is interested in adult stem cells. Adults have reservoirs of stem cells and their bone marrow. If we take cells from the bone marrow a certain percentage of those are adult stem cells.
[08:38] These stem cells can be injected into someone's the or some other place that needs regeneration.
[14:36] Diagnostic ultrasounds allow you to see the pathology and the tissue. Patrick is going to get trained in diagnostic ultrasounds.
[16:15] Using an ultrasound, stem cells can be put directly into the tear.
[16:49] We carry stem cells around in our body and they are designed to be released naturally.
[17:43] Every cancer known to man begins in an area where there are stem cells in the body. The cancer causes the stem cells to mutate.
[20:31] Patrick is also going to offer PRP injections or platelet-rich plasma.
[24:30] Patrick is going to work in tandem with the ultrasound certified technician.
[28:34] Stem cells are the newest frontier in medicine. Eventually we will be able to replace things using stem cells.
[28:45] Patrick stayed in Park City, Utah where the Olympics were held not too long ago. He was trying to find a branding expert to help with coming up with a name and a great logo.
[29:15] He came up with Lindon Leader the inventor of the FedEx logo.
[29:53] Another synchronicity, Patrick was planning to go to Salt Lake City and Lindon Leader was in Park City, Utah.
[30:49] When Patrick called Leader Creative, Lindon Leader was actually the guy who answered the phone.
[31:25] Patrick was staying at a resort next to the slopes in Park City. Lindon and Patrick had dinner, and it was like they were two kindred spirits. They talked about everything under the sun.
[33:01] Lindon Leader is the most humble person you can every imagine, but he one of the best known branding experts who has come up with some of the greatest logos of all time. He did the Cigna logo and Hawaiian airlines.
[34:24] Simplicity and clarity are part of his design philosophy. He also uses something called clear space, which makes things clear and simple.
[35:21] Lindon Leader invented an entirely new font for the FedEx logo, so the clear space would create an arrow between the E and the X on the logo.
[36:10] Lindon Leader also likes to put a secret in his logos. Usually about 1 in 10 people can see it.
[36:35] Lindon was a kicker for the Stanford University football team. His hero was Jan Stenerud.
[37:23] Lindon Leaders father was good at everything. He was also a well-known physician and put himself through law school. His dad could do anything. Lindon got a degree in political science, but hated law school.
[38:20] Lindon's brother followed in the footsteps of his dad and did everything that he did, and he turned out to be miserable. Always in the shadow and unable to fulfill those footsteps.
[38:56] Lindon quit law school and did what he wanted to do.
[39:13] He went to the Art Center, College of Design. He was always interested in design work.
[40:19] Lindon is both left brained and right brained. He analyzes the company from the inside out. He also teaches young designers.
[41:37] Logos need to have something to do with the company's purpose.
[41:49] Lindon began his career with a guy named Saul Bass who was a designer and Academy award-winning filmmaker.
[42:09] Saul Bass created title sequences.
[43:47] Lindon wanted to learn under the best, but he also took a design drawing class being taught by a Disney animator.
[44:18] A lot of the work that Lindon does now goes back to his roots of learning animation.
[46:22] How having a pen in your hand prewires you to allow the creative juices to flow.
[47:11] The first thing Lindon does is to immerse himself in the topic of the business.
[48:18] The naming phase takes two weeks. Experience, wisdom, trust, and integrity.
[49:15] Next week, Patrick is going to get presented with 50 name ideas.
[50:14] He looks for snippets of words that encapsulate what your business will be.
[51:54] In April 2014, Lindon won The annual Tribeca disruptor Award. He is a fellow in The disruptor Foundation.
[54:20] People in Silicon Valley are disruptors.
[58:22] The disruptor awards are known as Maslow's Silver Hammer.
[58:41] One of Maslow's most famous quotes was, "When your only tool is a hammer, everything starts looking like a nail."
[59:43] Patrick and Lindon are now friends, and Lindon will probably be on a future podcast.
[01:02:11] Challenge: look for the white arrow next time you see the FedEx logo.
[01:03:22] Go into nature and look for the space between the leaves. Pay attention to the space between words. Pay attention to the spaces in your thoughts. Pay attention to the pauses in your music. Look between the lines and get a sense of the vibration of this person.
[01:04:32] Don't be afraid of doing something that is different.
[01:05:21] Next week, Michael is going to present an example of a disruption that he witnessed today.
[01:06:44] Patrick gives a shout out to George Randy from The Hunger Project. George is a mathematical genius and a disruptor.
[01:09:38] It's always about the story.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Mayo Clinic
Fetal stem cells cause tumor in a teenage boy
Joe Rogan & Mel Gibson on Stem Cell Therapy
Lindon Leader
Fred Smith FedEx
Jan Stenerud
Saul Bass
Martin Scorsese
Billy Wilder
Stanley Kubrick
Alfred Hitchcock
Clay Christensen the Father of Disruption Theory
The Innovator’s Dilemma
Elon Musk
Jack Dorsey
Tribeca Film Festival
Robert DeNiro
Sundance Film Festival
Robert Redford
Maslow’s Silver Hammer
Annie Leibovitz
George Roundy The Hunger Project
Jasmine Thompson
Vero

Quotes:
“The stem cells form every tissue in the human body.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“A single stem cell has the capacity to regenerate in perpetuity or forever. You can develop entire colonies of stem cells from one stem cell.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Once you see it, you can’t unsee it.” Dr. Michael Bays
“When you want to be the best, you’ve got to learn from the best.” Dr. Michael Bays
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Pat is away this week, so I'm interviewing a colleague and a very special friend of mine Ann Marie Chiasson MD. We first met in 2008 when I was training as a fellow for the integrative medicine program through the University of Arizona.
She is now the director of the entire program. She is also the author of Energy Healing: The Essentials of Self-Care. She is board certified in family practice. She also graduated with honors and has trained in shamanism, energy healing and psychic surgery.
When I had my retinal detachment, Ann Marie helped me from an energy medicine perspective. Ann Marie is an absolutely fascinating person and in this episode we are going to talk about everything from shamanism to energy healing and simple rituals we can do to help ourselves.

Topics Discussed Today
[04:20] If you look behind you it provides the correct context.We think are going towards something, but we are actually right where we are as a culmination of the past.
[05:22] Tracking what you are interested in is the future pulling you forward.
[08:43] The heart center is the most powerful one because everything else centers around the heart.
[08:50] It takes practice to get into your heart center. Use a heart center meditation and do everything you can to work at the heart.
[09:03] Picture hands at the level of your heart and breathed into it.
[10:06] The four attributes of meditation. Boundless compassion. Innate harmony or the eye of the hurricane. Healing presence. Unconditional love. Selfless service.
[13:50] Resisting the temptation to take external substances to help you deal with life. Check in with your heart when you get caught off balance.
[14:25] Being centered all the time is hard to do. But once you're used to being centered when you get off centered it feels really bad.
[14:58] Substance is a paradoxical thing. It can open gates but make pain worse.
[16:15] Everybody needs a practice to deal with life better.
[16:39] Technology makes us live a secondary and tertiary existence. Virtual reality is not primary awareness like walking in nature is.
[17:14] Technology is moving faster than we are learning to replace it with my body. My body can be golf, exercise, walking in nature, etc.
[17:39] Maria Elena Cairo is a master teacher that sees the world at the level of energy. Nature and the energy field works on these principles.
[19:35] The unified field is completely intuitive.
[20:07] You have to be extremely gifted to transform illness with energy alone.
[21:05] Everything has an energetic origin.
[22:59] Ann Marie has worked with Yaqui and Mayan shaman. She has had so many wonderful teachers that can move energy and create spontaneous energy.
[24:46] Psychic surgery is high velocity energy work. It happens very rapidly.
[28:53] Anne-Marie met the needs of Don Juan Matus. She was an extraordinary 90 year old healer.
[30:03] Moving the field in certain ways to access healing. Or heart centered healing.
[30:11] Maria Matus was completely clairvoyant. The face you prevent is the face you receive.
[31:49] Jorge Gomez had just died. Ann Marie called him and asked him questions. He was not a spirit, but the energy of his essence.
[36:47] When people die their field will get bigger and bigger and fill the room and fill the house. You can sense the energy field. Personal space is the edge of an energy field. You can assess how close someone is to death because of their energy field.
[39:17] Near-death experiences.
[40:33] Dannion Brinkley was struck by lightning and came back after dying. It was a very transformative experience.
[41:10] Putting conscienceless into an object and leaving it there, and then when somebody finds it they will receive that consciousness.
[41:41] Places hold energy. Go to Jerusalem or some other sacred place and you will immediately be inducted.
[41:53] Diksha is a transmission of energy to the head of enlightenment. Energy is passed down.
[42:57] What we can do to access our energy fields.
[43:41] Toe tapping with your arms by your side and you are laying on a bed or a floor. Ann Marie does this for five minutes. It is like traditional Chinese medicine to bring you out of your head. Drop in drop down.
[45:50] Ann Marie teaches her daughters healing but she doesn't force it on them.
[46:30] She is going to be teaching energy medicine for self-healing in Massachusetts.
[46:46] She also wrote her book Energy Healing: The Essentials of Self-Care.
[46:58] She is also going on a cruise with Dr. Andrew Weil.
[46:58] Heal Your Story, Heal Your Life is and eight day conference to induct yourself into the ways of energy. You have to heal through your story from the past. Your career, your life, your story will form behind you. Put your story and your energetic framework in a position that allows you to have new experiences.
[49:09] How acting is working on the energy between you and myself.
[50:37] Our bodies are a ladder of states of consciousness. There are seven states of consciousness. Use body practices like breath, toe tapping, etc. Having a partnership between the head and the heart.
[53:30] There is an energy center or state of consciousness that part. It's an assembly point.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Ann Marie Chiasson, MD
Energy Healing: The Essentials of Self-Care
Energy Medicine for Self-Healing
Origins of Wellness Cruise with Andrew Weil
Heal Your Story, Heal Your Life
The Mystery of Healing
Brugh Joy: Healing & the Unconscious (excerpt) - Thinking Allowed Video w/ Dr. Jeffrey Mishlove
Maria Elena Cairo
Yaqui
Don Juan Matus
Carlos Castaneda
Saved by the Light: The True Story of a Man Who Died Twice and the Profound Revelations He Received
Diksha
The Complete Guide To The 7 Chakras – For Beginners

Quotes:
“Your career forms behind you to bring you to this moment.” Dr. Ann Marie Chiasson
“If you just let go and pay attention to the signs, you are being gently pulled there is even a divine wind at your back.” Dr. Michael Bays
“I have to follow my desire, my passion, and where my interest is.” Dr. Ann Marie Chiasson
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Patrick is off on a trip to meet with logo designer Lindon Leader. The same designer that created the classic FedEx logo. In his place, I have the next best thing his childhood friend George Roundy who is here to talk about his career in technology, his struggles with weight and self-esteem, and how he got involved with The Hunger Project.

George is an entrepreneur and the recipient of the 2008 Humanitarian of the Year Award. He was an early adopter when it came to learning about and embracing technology. He even used his skills to become actively involved with The Hunger Project. The Hunger Project not only hopes to have world hunger eradicated by 2030, it gave George a higher purpose and even led to him meeting his future wife. Learn about this great man and his challenges and triumphs in this episode.

Topics Discussed Today
[01:56] Patrick is traveling this week, so one of his best friends is sitting in for him.
[02:04] George Roundy is one of our childhood friends. Michael old friends and family call him Mickey.
[02:30] Michael was the towheaded kid across the street.
[03:10] When George was a kid his family moved from Wisconsin to Arizona because of his dad's health. George was traumatized by the move.
[05:29] When George moved to Benson, AZ his nickname was Goofy. He was overweight and with his last name he felt cursed.
[08:12] When George was 15 he lost a ton of weight. He lost 60 pounds in 6 weeks. The basketball coach told him to lose 50 pounds. He ran seven miles a day and ate one meal a day.
[10:06] He went to Scottsdale Junior College and Patrick went there to.
[11:27] George got a degree in computer systems in 1976.
[13:18] George became a dad when he was 21 and then he got divorced and became a single dad.
[14:06] The Hunger Project. George first found out about The Hunger Project in 1980.
[14:35] He received an invitation to join which meant filling out a card and declaring a goal to end hunger all over the world.
[14:55] How filling out a card could alter someone's entire life. This was really impactful for George and he wan't to contribute and make a difference in the world.
[16:23] He became The hunger Project community leader for the Phoenix area.
[16:58] They had the run to end hunger. George also ran a marathon. He hit the wall at mile 13. He finished in 4 hours and 59 minutes.
[19:06] As a working single dad, George wasn't sure if he could sustain all of the things he had going on.
[19:34] He interned for two weeks in San Francisco for the hunger Project to work on their computer systems.
[20:22] He let his son stay in Phoenix with his son's mom.
[20:48] He moved to San Francisco in 1982, and it helped him develop as a leader.
[23:27] The common belief was if we could end hunger we would've done it by now.
[24:17] 1990 the UN Summit for children. Every leader came together and made a commitment to take on the well-being of every child on the planet.
[24:48] They began working in Third World countries like India.
[26:07] George shares the story of how he met his wife.
[28:36] Georges had challenges with his weight off and on his entire life.
[29:36] Addictions come from a feeling of lack or a feeling that something is missing.
[31:35] Temporarily numbing pain with addictions.
[32:13] When George was 50 years old he realized that he was overweight and obese. It was his sentinel goal to release 150 pounds and to raise $150,000 for The Hunger Project.
[36:07] How The Hunger Project develops a partnership with people who are actually living in hunger. They are the ones that do a lot of the work.
[36:50] Various cultures have different challenges that prevent them from being sustainable.
[38:30] How child mortality in India was directly related to the way that women were treated.
[39:35] They created a women's leadership training program to improve quality of life.
[41:28] George shared their methodologies with local groups to help end or lower the amount of homelessness.
[42:59] George organized a fundraiser that was a rim to rim hike across the Grand Canyon.
[43:16] Michael shares how his Grand Canyon hiking experience wasn't a good experience.
[45:42] George shares how hiking the Grand Canyon was such a powerful event for everyone involved.
[47:53] In 2015, George was diagnosed with a cancerous tumor in his throat. This actually altered his life in a positive way.
[51:00] This connected him with the depth of his commitment for what life is really about.
[52:26] He made a point to refer all of his treatments in a positive way. He had trouble talking and eating. He also looked at what he had held onto that may have triggered the cancer, so he released his negative emotions.
[54:59] This cancer has an excellent prognosis, but the treatment is miserable.
[58:24] We are on the precipice of one of humanity's greatest accomplishments and that is ending hunger.
[01:00:06] The year 2030 is targeted as the year that hunger is eradicated.
[01:01:29] George and his sons are planning another fundraiser hike. He wants it to be annual it's going to be called The Climb.
[01:03:46] The impact of taking on a goal that is something bigger than yourself.
[01:07:23] The importance of never losing sight of your vision.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Hidden Figures
John Denver
Werner Erhard
The Hunger Project
Landmark Education
Buckminster Fuller
George Roundy
2008 Humanitarian Award Winner
George Roundy on Facebook
Eckhart Tolle
Keith Richards
Gabor Mate
Grand Canyon
Federico García Lorca
Humphrey’s Peak
Basil Braveheart
Lindon Leader

Quotes:
“There is a connection between my lifetime challenge with obesity and my passion to end hunger on the planet.” George Roundy
“Realizing that I can make a difference in ending world hunger really made me think about my purpose in life.” George Roundy
“There is plenty of food to feed everyone even today.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Olivia Wheeler is a 17-year-old high school junior. She is captain of the varsity cheer squad. We are so excited to be interviewing Olivia today. One of the things that we love to do is to speak with and get in the minds of these high school kids. We like to share our stories and our wisdom, but we also like to understand their point of view.

We talk about Olivia’s biggest fears. Not surprisingly, the recent school shootings have her on edge. She explains how she has a heightened sense of awareness and is always planning in case there is an emergency. This goes along with episode number 10 where we talked about situational awareness and leaving yourself an out.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:25] Olivia is a high school student and being a student isn't that easy.
[03:44] The Cold War days and the breakup of the Soviet Union. Things have changed a lot recently.
[04:18] School shootings are a real fear in the minds of high school students these days.
[04:32] At her school, there is actually a drill called run, fight, hide.
[05:48] How things have changed from a passive go along attitude to it's time to fight back attitude.
[06:01] How the passengers on flight 93 in Pennsylvania fought back when there air plane was hijacked by the terrorists.
[07:20] Olivia is suspicious when she hears an unscheduled fire drill. She doesn't wear flip flops because she wants to be able to run fast. She has taken on a defensive way of thinking.
[08:41] Olivia is more vigilant everywhere she goes now.
[09:29] Situational awareness and leaving yourself an out. When Patrick's in a theater, he sits in the back row. Always have an escape route.
[11:23] Wondering if fire drills are a set up.
[11:50] The choice of eliminating all weapons or hardening the schools. How schools are training teachers to carry weapons and are even equipping some schools with baseball bats.
[13:15] One solution is to take a martial art such as Krav Maga which teaches situational awareness.
[14:14] How there was a strong sense of tribes among Native Americans back in colonial days.
[14:37] How classmates being more inclusive and not letting some kids become outsiders could help prevent this problem. All inclusive kids from the inside bringing everyone together with a sense of tribe.
[17:46] Approaching things from a practical standpoint, a sociological standpoint, and an individual psychological standpoint.
[18:22] There is a fine line and a slippery slope when it comes to taking weapons away.
[18:50] Getting the word out and educating kids and just talking about things is the best thing to do right now.
[19:39] As long as humans have some form of social deviance there will always be these dangers. We just need to be more aware and vigilant.
[20:00] How better preparation makes you feel more confident.
[21:16] The colors of Ironwood is a club at Ironwood high school. Anyone can be in this club. It's mainly black and Hispanic kids, but anybody can be in it. This club is like a big family and when something racially insensitive happens people can tell the president of the club, and they will report to the school.
[26:07] Olivia hates to hear the N-word and doesn't say it.
[26:09] Michael tells a story about how when he was a little kid he showed up at a new school, and he was called N-word lips.
[28:34] Patrick was picked on by Hispanic kids at school. He is actually a quarter Hispanic.
[30:22] Whether white privilege exists or not. Olivia feels white people can be discriminated against too. Everybody should be treated with dignity and respect.
[32:08] People shouldn't be judged on race. You pick the color of the closure where, but God takes the color of your skin.
[33:07] Taking 100% responsibility for your life and not blaming other people.
[34:40] Gaydar and knowing who is gay. Olivia's grandma had a friend who was always around, and Olivia always kind of knew that they were together.
[36:55] Olivia is always the voice for those who don't have a voice.
[38:34] Empathy is a good quality to have.
[39:05] Olivia's main goal in life is to be happy and stable. Career wise she would like to be a registered nurse. She is in a program in healthcare foundations where she learns medical basics like how to take vitals and what HIPAA means.
[39:57] The next class she will be taking is the licensed nursing assistant class or LNA. This program saves money and helps get your foot in the door before you even graduate. When she graduates from her senior year in high school she will be a licensed LNA.
[41:23] Her long-term goal is to be a nurse anesthetist. She would also like to work with kids because she has that motherly nature. The stress and anxiety and coping with things like just working in a medical job.
[46:53] Clarity of vision is one of the most important aspects of pursuing a healthcare role or any role.
[47:37] Even though, your friends who pursue lesser degrees may be making money sooner, you will be able to catch up to them within about three years of starting to work.
[49:32] You will always be able to make a living in the medical profession. There are a lot easier ways to make money. Don't put money at the forefront of your mind when you're pursuing this type of goal. You really have to have a passion for people and this kind of life.
[52:22] How people in the medical profession have a huge impact on people's lives.
[53:14] Michael loves teaching and working with young doctors in training. He also likes the sense of camaraderie among physicians.
[55:03] How it's a long road when pursuing a medical profession. Have the vision in your mind all the time when you get distracted and think you don't want to do it anymore.
[56:49] As long as you don't get distracted, there will always be something to lead you along the way. Medicine is the great equalizer.
[59:51] DJ Chad Bays will be back in a future episode. He has a sentinel goal of producing original music. He also has a secondary goal of finding true love.
[01:00:14] Michael is also trying to get his medicine man friend in Colombia to be on the show.
[01:00:22] Kaci Bays will also be back, and she has some good Trump stories.
[01:01:16] Michael is also going to have a Korean War veteran on the show, so he can recount the story of when he saw a UFO. We also might talk about Victor Frankl's Man's Search for Meaning and other cool things.
[01:05:05] Patrick is going to get his logo done by Lindon Leader the man who created the FedEx logo.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Olivia Wheeler
Khrushchev
Gorbachev
Flight 93
Reagan
010- Situational Awareness and Leaving Yourself an Out
Krav Maga
Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging
Fat Albert
Oprah Winfrey
Maslow’s Triangle
Kaci Bays
Man’s Search for Meaning
The Laws of Subtraction: 6 Simple Rules for Winning in the Age of Excess Everything
Leader Creative

Quotes:
“If you have your headphones on you can't hear a scream or a shot from the other side of the campus.” Olivia Wheeler
“This is the reality. This is where we are living now. No matter what side of the coin you’re on we have to talk about solutions.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The sense of tribe was so strong that no member of that tribe would ever think of betraying the tribe.” Dr. Michael Bays
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We had a little hiatus for the Easter vacation, but it’s great to be back sitting in our chairs in our respective communities. Michael was celebrating his birthday and had the most amazing cake we have ever seen. The base of it looked like a blacktop road with a yellow line down the center. Then there was a road sign that said 55 no limits. There was also an amazing construction of all of the cacti in Arizona. It looked like a sculpture, and we felt guilty even eating eat.

On this episode, we share some of our childhood stories about our mom and dad. We talk about whether Michaels prayers for our mom when she was sick actually worked or not. We talk about how Michael wants to live to be 104, and his main goal is to help those he loves. We also talk about what makes good design in life and logos which is Simplicity and Clarity. The show is starting to take off, and we talk about that and highlight some upcoming episodes.

Topics Discussed Today
[03:41] We just finished celebrating Michael's 55th birthday, and he had the most amazing cake we have ever seen.
[04:24] We received a lot of positive reviews from our last podcast, Episode 42 Synchronicities and Messages from Beyond was about our mother and her death, but we shared a lot of positive experiences.
[05:28] How Michael developed a closer relationship with his mother as he grew older. Patrick always had a good relationship with her.
[05:46] Patrick remembers his mother singing to him and rocking him to sleep when he was little. He and his mother always had a connection. Later in life, she would fly to Seattle and they would spend hours looking out the window and talking.
[10:44] MIchael was into monsters when he was a kid. He was different from the rest of the family, but he embraces his uniqueness and weirdness.
[12:23] Michael decided to stop talking to his dad to see how long it would take before his dad noticed that he wasn't talking. It took about a month, but the exercise reinforced Michael's own feelings of insignificance.
[13:53] How we all carry around these feelings that we aren't worthy. It all goes down to those moments in life when we were wanting love, but we didn't get it.
[15:04] Patrick's dad taught him how to tie a tie when he was in college. Later on in life Patrick realized it was a half windsor knot.
[18:05] Michael shares a story of his mom driving his dog back from Branson to Tucson for him. His parents were always there for him when he needed them.
[21:36] Michael shares a story about partying in high school, and the day his grandmother died.
[23:39] Michael used to pray for his mom when she was sick. Did his prayers work? He doesn't know, but it seems like afterwards when he called her she sounded like she felt better.
[24:58] Patrick believes that all of the prayers were helpful, and stuff like that is good for anyone during any type of transition.
[25:21] Knowing that someone loves you enough to pray for you would improve your well-being.
[26:00] A lot of people who listened to our last podcast episode number 42 have also had synchronicities when a grandparent or someone close to them has died.
[27:43] Michael plans to live to be 104. He told his son that things happen, and even if something happens to him, they can still go outside and talk to him. They also need to send energy of love and gratitude.
[31:09] My main goal is to help the people who I have left behind on the earth plane.
[32:47] When we have a serious disease that means there is something wrong on a spiritual or an emotional level that needs to be corrected.
[33:09] You have to get to the root of the underlying disease. Michael's eye issue was his heart. He was able to heal himself through his heart.
[36:09] You can't alter someone's destiny. You have to be humble. You are a vessel allowing the energy to flow through you.
[38:21] Patrick would like to work on being humble.
[39:35] Lindon Leader strive for simplicity and clarity in design. The art of subtraction is removing anything that is excessive.
[42:01] He builds a secret into every one of his designs. If you look between the big E and the small x, you will notice there's a perfect arrow in the white space. The secret is to build in a subliminal message that nobody will know unless they look at the logo.
[44:09] At The Hollow Tube, we are trying to eliminate what is not necessary. By eliminating what is not necessary we start to train ourselves to look between the spaces.
[45:36] On a spiritual level we are infinite and expansive.We're always collecting and gathering thing so we can expand. The secret is to expand spiritually and eliminate all things that are holding us back.
[46:30] Relaxing and taking a view of everything in your horizon and expanding your spirit. Narrow your focus so you won't to waste any in energy ever.
[46:52] Striving to become the masters of elimination. Removing all excess from our lives. Looking at the white space.
[48:17] Take a step back and distance yourself from being so reactive all the time.
[48:52] On the next podcast, Michael wants to talk about Eben Alexander's book.
[49:58] Start working on the art of removing anything excessive and strive for simplicity and clarity.
[51:08] Michael wants to eliminate anything that does not serve him.
[53:48] We have some amazing guests coming up including Chad Bays, Kaci Bays, and Parker's girlfriend.
[56:04] Things are starting to take off, and we have found our sweet spot. What seems to work for us is telling a lot of our personal stories.
[57:35] Shout outs to all the people and all of the countries that are listening to us.
[58:20] Next week, Patrick might tell us his St. Patrick's story.
[58:20] Next week, Patrick might tell us his St. Patrick's story.
[58:39] Taking us out is the music of Lisa Gerrard.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
042 – Synchronicities and Messages from Beyond
The Little White Duck Song
Frank Fools Crow
The Laws of Subtraction: 6 Simple Rules for Winning in the Age of Excess Everything
Lindon Leader
Eben Alexander
029 – A Moment of Clarity
Kaci Bays
Lisa Gerrard

Quotes:
“Me and my mother would spend hours and hours looking out the window and talking. We felt so comfortable. She always said that whenever she felt bad she would fly up to Seattle and spend time with me.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“I think it’s good to be weird.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Now that you know that you are weird, and you accept that you are weird that makes you unique and different.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The only thing not talking to my dad did was reinforce my own feelings of insignificance.” Dr. Michael Bays
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Last week, we had a wonderful discussion with Noah Martin. He is a high school student, scholar, athlete, and aspiring professional musician. For someone so young, he had a lot of wisdom to share. We really enjoyed talking about and helping him define his future vision.
We also received positive feedback on the episode before where we talked about entrainment and binaural beats. I've received requests for the tools I use. One of the tools I used to use was Hemi-Sync and now I have moved on to Sacred Acoustics. Today, we are going to be talking about synchronicities and messages from beyond.

Topics Discussed Today
[06:00] Michael listens to the binaural beats as he prepares his mind for surgery. Patrick may begin listening to these as he rides the ferry to work.
[07:31] Parker has also been listening to these before his track meets.
[09:20] Synchronicities, aperture, and the afterlife has been coming up a lot lately. Our late grandmother Dom used to say that everyone has a little ESP. It's no special talent. It just takes practice.
[11:00] Patrick talks about his story where he had just used the word aperture and then five minutes later he came across an apartment building named Aperture. Our listeners also like the word, so we are going to keep using it.
[11:14] Michael has been reading Proof of Heaven by Eben Alexander. He is also reading Living in a Mindful Universe.
[11:40] Eben Alexander had a near-death experience, but he came out of it completely unscathed.
[13:22] Michael has been thinking about Eben Alexander's experience. He shared his thoughts with a fellow gym member, and he shares a synchronicity experience between them.
[19:08] Plato's Allegory of the Cave and perception. Everything these people in the cave knew was based on the shadows in the cave
[20:30] Patrick shares the story of the jewel beetles.
[24:56] Our ability to perceive and see things as they really are or as we think they are. Animals also have an ability to perceive.
[25:47] How the human brain is so advanced we actually strive to quiet our minds. We now have free time to think about things.
[26:59] People like to go camping, so that they can get away from things and think and perceive their thoughts.
[27:34] Patrick is writing about how we can improve our perception.
[28:02] How we experience the world through our bodies.
[28:57] How everybody has a sixth sense. It's important to expand our minds and our perception, so we can access universal consciousness.
[30:44] Expanding your perception and quieting your mind will enhance your ability to just be in the world.
[32:07] Stripping yourself naked and becoming a spirit the way Frank Fools Crow did. Intense focused out of body experiences.
[34:36] Hallucinations are an aberration of your sphere of perception. It's similar to mimicry in the animal world.
[36:17] How perception can be part of survival.
[37:23] Michael has been thinking about his mom a lot lately. How it's funny that all the pieces seem to fall in place when you're on the right path in life.
[41:54] Michael shares a story about a trip his parents took him on to visit Our Lady of the Sierras. The caretaker told him he would be back. When he moved back the caretaker was his first patient.
[44:57] The two sentinel events that happened to Michael when he moved back to Arizona were his detached retina and his mother's cancer diagnosis.
[47:17] Michael also shares a story about a prayer that was given to him.
[48:25] It's also amazing how your external perception will affect your internal perception.
[53:33] Michael shares a story about how his mother's health was not doing well, and in the morning he was relieved just to hear her breath.
[54:51] He took her to the hospital, and she had a lung procedure.
[57:40] Michael had a vision about when his mother would be ready to go.
[58:49] Michael's mother said she was ready to go. She passed after that. Michael remembered his vision and knew that it was a celebration.
[01:02:16] Patrick had a dream about a month later. He was walking through a park and he caught three people sitting on a bench out of the corner of his eye. Then he heard someone say in his mother's voice hi Pat. He had the same vision that his dad had had of his mother when she was young. It startled him so much he snapped out of his sleep.
[01:07:36] How apertures are everywhere and we're just looking into different universes and parallels of things.
[01:08:11] This podcast is dedicated to our mother and our grandmothers.
[01:08:48] Michael recommends trying a spiritual discipline.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Life Decisions With Noah Martin
Brainwave States and Meditation
Hemi-Sync
Sacred Acoustics
Carl Jung
Proof of Heaven
Living in a Mindful Universe
Sigmund Freud
Allegory of the Cave
Plato
Aristotle
Donald Hoffman Perception TED
Frank Fools Crow
Medjugorje
Our Lady of the Sierras

Quotes:
“Synchronicity is being in the groove and being in the zone and experiencing things when there's no logical way for you to be experiencing these things.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“To me, synchronicities are a sign that you are on the right track in life.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Perception occurs in our mind as a result of neurological energy. It is the mind that perceives.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The sphere of perception or aperture of our intelligence opens.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Noah Martin is our special guest today. Noah is a 17 year old high school student who is an athlete on the varsity football team. He is also a scholar and an honor student. He is a finalist for Arizona Scholar Athlete of the Year. He plays the guitar, drums, and sings in his band 17 Blackledge.

We like to have young scholars and athletes on the show because, we like to see how they look at the world and get an idea of what they are thinking about. We feel that the world is at a tipping point, and we want to share as much information as possible. Between the two of us, we have over a hundred years of combined wisdom. We want to share our wisdom with the Next Generation to put them on the fast track to success.

Topics Discussed Today
[03:41] This situation is very similar to our first podcast when it was the two of us and Parker on the porch.
[04:29] For Michael this has been a week of synchronicities.
[05:48] Patrick was writing about an experience he had when he was a little boy. His dog came home wearing an Elizabethan collar.He actually put a lampshade on his head to see what it would feel like to wear an Elizabethan collar. The lampshade gave him extra focus like a magical lens.
[09:21] When he was telling the story to his girlfriend, he would use the word aperture, and his girlfriend said you can't use that word no one will know what you're talking about.Then he was sitting in his car thinking about it, and he looked up at the sign on the new apartment complex and it was called the Aperture on Fifth.
[10:53] The focal point of an aperture is being focused on your sphere of perception.
[15:01] Noah shares how he likes to break things down step-by-step when he's trying to achieve a goal.The smaller goals lead to your bigger goals.
[15:47] Noah just talked about the second phase of the sentinel goal which is finding the secret or the pathway to achieve your goal.
[16:48] By breaking things down you adapt more quickly, and you don't miss the subtle nuances that you would if you just went for your big goal.
[17:49] Noah has two pathways he wants to go on. One is traveling in an old van playing music around the world. If the music doesn't pan out, then he will go to college or maybe even enlist.
[20:20] He's stripping everything away to achieve his goal of music.
[21:21] Noah's dad supports his vision. If it doesn't work out though he needs to go to college.
[22:14] How the best times and the best stories come from football hell week. The best times come from when things were simple.
[28:32] Influences for Blackledge include Nirvana, Megadeth, Alice in Chains, and Stone Temple Pilots.
[30:03] It was hard finding a band name that wasn't taken. Noah and the guys drove around Tucson and saw Blackledge Road and found their new name.
[31:19] Noah practices nightly for about 45 minutes and then two hours on Saturday. His dad is also a drummer, so he's been playing the drum since he was a year old. His guitar songs are slower ballads.
[33:11] He can't try to write. He plays around and comes across inspiration when he's with his guitar.
[33:37] You have to shut your mind down and calm down to get creative inspiration.
[34:50] He also started writing poetry after being in a certain relationship. This was helpful for his songwriting. He also makes regular discipline and dedication part of his routine.
[37:10] Noah tells the story of a recent sentinel event. His mom actually got arrested for embezzling from a past job.
[41:03] His mom was sentenced to 12 months in jail. It was just him and his dad, but he grew up quickly.
[42:17] He and his dad had a lot of work to do but they grew closer.
[43:04] He realized that the only way he was going to get through this was to laugh at it.
[44:43] He was in class and he got a text that his mom was getting out of jail early.
[45:18] The Experience taught him that he was independent, and it also helped him learn the power of forgiveness.
[49:14] Some of the things he learned are self-awareness. and controlling his emotions, and being aware of his emotions.
[50:55] He's decided his number one goal is making himself happy. If he's not happy nobody's happy.
[51:55] 10 years from now Noah wants to be the type of guy who's always conscious of other people. He also wants to see himself rise to success.
[53:08] Making it in music is really a 10-year process.
[54:16] Think about the person you're going to be coming 10 years and the values of that person. Ask yourself, what do you stand for?
[58:05] Noah's true North is always trying to do the right thing.
[01:05:28] If music doesn't work out for Noah, he wants to do something where he's not stuck behind a desk.
[01:06:14] How seeing the real world can make you a better person.
[01:07:08] Noah feels like everyone should serve in some way.
[01:10:10] The importance of the military is the cohesion of the unit. Noah loves the idea of the bond of brotherhood in the military.
[01:12:11] Noah is grateful that his mom is back and that she takes an interest in his life.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Noah Martin
17 Blackledge
Connor Olive’s Life Transition
Road to Recovery with Scott Golden
Carl Jung
Sigmund Freud
René Descartes
That Thing You Do!
Oh Brother, Where Art Thou?
Kaci Bays
Leaves of Grass
Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging
One Bullet Away: The Making of a Marine Officer by Nathaniel C. Fick
Raindrops are Falling on My Head

Quotes:
“Block out everything in your way and focus on that one goal until you get it.” Noah Martin
“Aperture is like looking at the world through a tube and being 100% focused because everything else is blocked out.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“If you're visualizing a goal and where you're heading in life, you need to filter out everything in your way.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Last week we talked about sentinel goals and sentinel events. We might have 10 sentinel goals in our life and then sporadic sentinel events. Sentinel goals are things that you intentionally work towards where sentinel events are things that happen spontaneously.

Today. we are going to talk about brainwave states and meditation. We also want to reemphasize how achieving goals is an active process. You need to have a crystal-clear vision of what you want to achieve, and then have the strength to follow through even when the going gets rough.

Topics Discussed Today
[05:14] We recap last week's episode number 39 about sentinel goals and sentinel events. Then we talk about the importance of actually doing the work yourself and not faking it.
[06:26] Being strong enough to deal with a life transforming event. Being strong enough to pursue your goal and not give up.
[07:41] Weak minded people don't have the capacity to overcome failure and become stronger or take it to the next level.
[08:18] You need to decide in advance what type of person you are going to be on the other side.
[08:56] How pursuing goals is an active process. We can't attain things by a passive process of osmosis. Learning, achieving, and growing is active.
[10:22] The first thing you need to do is have a crystal-clear vision of your goal and then use an active process to achieve it.
[10:32] Put your mind in your future's body and feel what it would feel like to accomplish that goal. Find the secret of the goal, because then you will have the pathway to achieving that goal. Invest yourself mind, body, and spirit into the achievement of that goal.
[11:01] To have an ethos centric driven life you have to have three values.Three major sentinel values that are part of your constitution like integrity, wisdom, and benevolence or whatever your values are. These values are the internal default of your sphere of perception.
[13:07] Deciding whether to share your goal or keep it to yourself.
[16:47] The importance of knowing your why. Why are you pursuing that goal? When you put all these pieces together, start looking for that secret pathway.
[17:44] You don't have to tell everybody your goals. Keep them to yourself.
[18:20] When it's just between you and your mind you become more powerful. The more you talk about the less powerful you become. Unless, it's a collaborative effort.
[19:30] Michael knew he needed to do something to change his mental state. He decided to start meditating. He didn't really know anything about meditating, so he googled it and took it from there.
[20:53] None of the things Michael found really resonated with him then he ran across Stuart Wilde's introduction to meditation.
[22:17] After Michael started listening to that metronome sound of Stuart Wilde's, all kinds of synchronicities in his life began happening.
[23:27] Eben Alexander's near-death experience when he was in a coma. Consciousness is not contained within the brain it has to come from somewhere else.
[26:03] Standing inside a giant inner tube from the inside out. How an energetic field emerges from your body. The heart also has a taurus shaped electrical field. The heart is an electrical impulse. The shape of the field is taurus shaped.
[29:29] How positive emotions correlate with a larger more expanded heart field. Negative emotions correlate with a restricted heart field.
[30:01] Positive emotions can have a sympathetic resonance with people around us.
[31:21] Using concentric magnets to treat tennis elbow.
[33:35] Neuroplasticity and the brain's ability to adapt.
[36:34] Training your neurons and rewiring your brain.
[38:11] Using conscious awareness to wrap your neurons in positive thoughts. Rewiring your own brain in a good way.
[39:13] The flow state. Extremely focused on the task at hand.
[40:03] The Peter principle means you can work to your level of competence. Once you reach your max, your work begins to deteriorate.
[47:08] The hypnotic sound of meditating with a metronome. Meditating with binaural beats. This puts you in a state of mind or a flow state. Wear headphones and each ear will hear a slightly different frequency.
[50:59] A Delta state is a deep coma state.
[51:53] Gamma is found in peak performance states.
[52:32] Alpha is a nice relaxed calm mind. Or when they are having REM or dream sleep.
[52:58] Theta waves are what very experienced meditators like Buddhist monks are able to do
[59:04] Start meditating with binaural beats. It's an easy way to get into medication without having to mess with guided meditations.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Sentinel Goals and Sentinel Events
Stuart Wilde
Eben Alexander
Proof of Heaven
HeartMath Institute
The Peter Principle
Einstein
Salvador Dali
Ludwig van Beethoven
Thomas Edison
Kogi Indians
Binaural Beats
Sacred Acoustics
Viktor Frankl
Man's Search for Meaning
Frank Fools Crow
Make Your Bed
Mind Over Meds
The Historical Version of Fools Crow
Fools Crow Wisdom and Power
CrossFit Now

Quotes:
“Pursuing goals is an active process. It is never passive.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“If you tell yourself that you are weak, you will start believing that you are weak and acting week.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Every single failure that you recover from makes you stronger.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Weak people will let external circumstances control their lives.” Dr. Michael Bays

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In another episode, we promised that we would talk about sentinel goals and sentinel events. Today is the day that we do that. Throughout most people’s lifetimes, they have about 10 opportunities to have a large goal realized. An example of a large goal would be when John F. Kennedy announced that he wanted to put a man on the moon.
To achieve these large goals, we need to have a clear vision of that goal. We need to write it down and pursue the goal on a daily basis. Achieving these large sentinel goals can change the entire trajectory of our lives. We talk about how it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert, but you still need a skill set that complements those hours. We discuss the keys to sentinel goals which are visualize, analyze, and realize. Along with a lot more.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:22] In everybody's life, there are probably 10 opportunities to have a goal that is realized. These are goals that change the trajectory of your life.
[03:08] An example of this would be when John F. Kennedy promised to put a man on the moon by 1968.
[05:15] Writing your goal down and having a clear vision of that goal on a daily basis. Then finding the secret that unlocks the portal to that goal.
[05:37] Finding the secret is done by analysis and figuring out how other people have attained a similar goal.
[07:14] How Einstein's entire life was transformed when he discovered the theory of relativity. The entire worlds trajectory was also transformed.
[07:47] How it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert. You also need a skill set that conforms with what you're trying to achieve.
[08:23] Visualize or set your goal. Analyze your goal and figure out the secret code. Achieve or realize your goal. Bathe in your feeling of success. Those are the keys to sentinel goals.
[09:12] Obstacles along the way that you have to overcome and certain feelings of achievement and mastery. Part of the process includes stepping stones along the way.
[10:40] Having a crystal vision of your goal and knowing that it is something that you want, not what someone else works.
[11:05] The hero's journey and doing something positive and doing it in the right way.
[12:08] If you don't do things the right way, it loses a lot of its luster. Working tirelessly and relentlessly in pursuit of your goal.
[14:05] The synchronicities of the universe.
[14:53] Sentinel events are planned or unplanned things. Planned events could be the birth of a child or a graduation. Unplanned events could be meeting the person you will marry or stumbling on a book that changes how you think about things. The big ones are involuntary and unexpected like a divorce or losing someone you love. These are make or break moments in our lives.
[17:30] A sentinel event can have a goal associated with it. A sentinel event can be more devastating.
[21:39] Moments of total and complete clarity.
[24:57] Being egocentric as opposed to being virtuous and being taught a lesson by life.
[26:02] Michael shares some of his profoundly changing sentinel events. Going to Brazil and meeting his shaman and having a detached retina.
[27:09] The first sentinel event for Patrick was when he realized that his family was very poor. He also knew he wasn't going to get out of that situation unless he made it happen for himself.
[30:38] Michael shares how he went to South America and came back a changed person. He was having problems with his wife and everything in his life was going wrong. His mom told him he needed to figure this out.
[33:09] Michael went to a church and prayed for guidance. Years later, a friend of his relayed the story that he was in the back of the church, and Michael was just wailing.
[33:40] He went to South America, because he wanted to meet an author. He didn't hit it off with the author, but he did meet his shaman.
[39:27] Michael drank the little death. He was also forced to face his dragons. The entire way he looked at the world was somehow changed. His wife even told him he needed to shut up, because people would think he was crazy.
[41:18] Difficult circumstances call for a heroic response. Peeling back the layers in getting to the core of the person. This is what Michael calls getting the big medicine.
[43:48] It's a tool. The more introspective he gets the less he needs it.
[48:11] Michael had a profound vision. He went to Columbia. Michael drank the medicine and felt like he was getting sick. He went into the forest and all of the nature sounds were amplified. He threw up in a puddle and his reflection took him back to a vision of who he was before his first South American trip. He had to embrace his former vision of himself.
[01:02:21]The first step is looking at your life right now and being grateful for your life right now.
[01:07:38] Think about the sentinel goals and the sentinel events in your life and make a list. How did it change you? If you want to live a happy life, tie it to a goal not people or things. At least, that's what Einstein said.

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John F. Kennedy
Neil Armstrong
Moon Landing
Einstein’s Theory of Relativity
Nietzsche
Tiger Woods
Jack Nicklaus
030 – Road to Recovery
029 – A Moment of Clarity
Harry Potter
Dr. Strange
Star Wars
Kaci Bays
Black Panther
CrossFit Now
Saieen Zahoor

Quotes:
“In everybody's life, there are probably 10 opportunities to have a goal that is realized.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Copy someone who has already attained that goal. Look and see what they did and do the same thing.” Dr. Michael Bays
“My sentinel goal was picturing myself walking across the stage getting my medical diploma. This changed my entire life trajectory.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Pursuit of a sentinel goal or a big goal is rewarding in itself.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Our topic today is how your vibration equals your destination. We start off with a quick update and then talk about the importance of independence when it seems like you don't have anything else. We also talk about how altruistic behavior gives us a dopamine rush and helps us feel better. We touch on the concept of critical mass and the self-perpetuating concept of 10%.

We also talk about the unfortunate event of the recent school shootings, and how the young people are stepping forward and becoming activists. It feels like change is in the air, and the world is at a tipping point. We also talk about taking 100% responsibility for our lives and understanding that we have the ability to respond to anything that happens. We finish with the importance of making kindness and love a habit, being grateful, being self-aware, and so much more.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:22] Patrick lives on Bainbridge Island. He can see Seattle from his window. All of the electrical and cable are above ground supported by telephone poles. The power goes out frequently, but fortunately, Patrick has a giant generator that kicks in whenever the power is out. He can look down the street and everyone else's house is dark.
[08:40] Michael received a phone message from Bill (the homeless man that he helps out from time to time) in the message Bill thanks Michael for all of his help.
[11:14] Michael can't get Bill to go to the VA which is unfortunate, because there are resources there that could help him.
[11:50] Patrick shares a story about Charles Bronson's brother.
[12:53] How when you have nothing, having your independence is the only thing that you might have.
[14:24] Patrick and Michael's uncle Danny was also homeless. He also worked on oil rigs, and he was friends with Elvis when he was young.
[16:26] Michael shares why he continues to try to help Bill. How altruistic behavior helps us feel better.
[20:52] Critical mass or 10% of people can create a perpetuating idea.
[23:19] The self-perpetuating concept of 10%.
[24:38] You can change a lot of things if 10% of the people buy into that concept.
[25:34] How we are at a point where we are finally going to try to attack the problem of the school shootings. The approach will probably take into account several different methods.
[26:14] How the world is at a tipping point. The natural ebb and flow of the universe and how people can feel when the pendulum starts to swing too much to one side. Using our subconscious to bring the pendulum back to a place that feels more balanced.
[27:23] The first step is taking 100% responsibility for your life. Understand that you have the ability to respond to anything that happens.
[28:13] Action depends on many factors including your proximity and finances and a whole host of different things.
[28:54] If you have the ability to act and make things better, you should take action.
[30:37] How the young generation is going to lead us out of the abyss and show us the way.
[31:25] How we've lost the ability for the family to be the primary caretakers of the children.
[32:28] Making kindness and love a habit. Being grateful is a start. Momentum builds from there and creates a permanent change over time. It all starts with being self-aware.
[33:40] Michael went to Parker's track practice. Michael was experiencing nature and how it feels to be human.
[35:55] Michael's sphere of perception SOP was finely-tuned.
[37:31] Expanding your awareness, imprinting yourself on the field, and then stepping into the ring and becoming this person that is part of the ceremony or ritual of what is happening in the ring.
[38:16] Your sphere of perception is taking in everything around you. When you step into the ring, your SOP becomes internal.
[40:17] A Taurus is the shape of an inner tube or donut and there are calculations that go along with that.
[44:30] Changing your state two more powerful emotions. How many people can you affect when you move your emotions to a higher vibration?
[46:26] the only thing we know to be true are things that we have experienced. How are internal attitudes have an effect on our environment.
[47:11] High vibration emotions would be expansive and low vibration emotions would contract.
[50:59] Matching your emotional state to your vision of the world creates a vibration to make these things start happening for you.
[52:23] Being joyful is the byproduct of achieving a worthy goal.
[54:26] When you can feel peace and contentment, you know that you have achieved exactly what you were looking for.
[57:35] Being the person who's a hundred percent okay with who you are and being self-actualizing.
[58:59] Feeling grateful and making a habit of being nice to people.
[59:56] Praying out loud and the external and internal vibration.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
The Tipping Point
Edwards Deming
036 – Connor Olive’s Life Transition
Socrates
Top 50 for 2017-18: Thrower Turner Washington entering Arizona with lofty expectations
Maslow
Gandhi
CrossFit Now
Kaci Bays

Quotes:
“When you have nothing, the only thing you might have is your independence.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“One of the reasons I do what I do is because helping another human helps yourself.” Dr. Michael Bays
“If you can get 10% of your brain to buy into a concept, the 10% will then start a chain reaction and become self perpetuating and recruit other portions of your brain to buy into that concept.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Life is about giving to other people.” Dr. Michael Bays

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When two people are in an argument or having a debate the first person to lose is the first person to lose their composure. We talked about this today along with the signs of losing your composure. We also talked about how tactics to shut down to debate are the opposite of free speech. Patrick also shares a great to learn the art of debate.
Michael has a Bill & Bear update and tells the story of how bill is now able to get in touch with him. Then we discussed last week's interview with Connor Olive. We explore the relationship of mathematics and physics with music. We also talk about depression in young people and depression in creative people. We also touch on emotions, sentinel goals, and some of our topics for next week.

Topics Discussed Today
[04:47] We have been having a lot of positive feedback about the podcast.
[06:53] Signs of composure loss include raising the volume, personal attacks, profanity, and roadblocks or terminating civil discourse. Calling people names and putting them in groups means you can't debate them with logic.
[09:26] If an argument you are using for a debate is a known lie, you have lost the argument.
[10:27] Deciding if a glass is half empty or half full and debating it, then switch points of view.
[15:10] How shouting down and using other tactics to shut down a debate is the antithesis of freedom of speech.
[16:33] Discovering who our target audience is and keeping in mind we have younger listeners too.
[18:34] Bill & Bear update. Bear has been running around at the Walmart in Benson AZ. Michael got a call about him, and the people found Bill and called Michael. Bill requested Albuterol. Michael drove around Walmart and found Bill. Now Bear’s dog tag is Bill’s way to contact Michael.
[27:36] We had Connor Olive on last week. He is an honor student and musician. A lot of the young people we have talked with are thinking about taking a gap year.
[27:36] We had Connor Olive on last week. He is an honor student and musician. A lot of the young people we have talked with are thinking about taking a gap year.
[29:38] Patrick was interested in the relationship of mathematics and physics with Connors musical ability.
[30:07] Elements of music like the form, meter, notes, pitch and tempo are translated basically in measurements of time in frequency. They're all analogous to geometry.
[30:18] The ancient Greeks investigated expressing musical skills in terms of numerical ratios. Harmony was also considered a fundamental branch of physics.
[30:56] Patrick liked the Connection between math and music with Connor, but he was also intrigued with the talk of depression.
[33:52] The theory that people who are more creative are more introspective and more depressed. They are constantly looking inside their own minds and trying to understand how things work. Introspection and being analytical can lead to depression because you pick yourself apart or ruminate.
[35:13] Patrick shares his story about the bottomless pit.
[37:19] The study that came out that said feelings of social isolation spiked in 2012 the year that 50% of the American households had cell phones.
[37:35] Kids are getting constant exposure to chaos and unpredictability.
[39:20] How complexity causes stress. Prior to mass media kids weren't bombarded with all of this stuff.
[40:30] Where awareness goes energy flows. A lot of it has to do with perception and focus.
[41:38] Great minds use their craft to escape the complexity of life. When you focus and your mind is intent on solving a problem everything else disappears.
[43:02] The elements of expectation and your mental blueprint not matching reality. The importance of being grateful.
[44:38] Converting a negative emotion into something positive.
[45:42] Michael shares a great exercise for being grateful.
[48:44] We can retrain our brains, physiology, and anatomy by doing these things.
[50:12] Goal oriented affirmations. Sentinel goals are goals that are so significant that they will change the course of your life. In a future episode we are going to talk about how to define a sentinel goal. Patrick's sentinel goal was to be called doctor.
[52:20] Secret Window to reach that Sentinel goal.
[58:20] If you match your emotional state to the emotional state you would have after achieving your goal it will put you closer to that goal.
[01:01:27] You know a goal is a sentinel goal because the feeling you feel when you achieve that goal is beyond your wildest expectations.
[01:03:49] You can have more positive moments than negative moments if you do the right things.
[01:05:20] Everything is based on energy and vibration. Form is even vibration. There is a universal energy and vibrations associated with that. People into these things can feel those vibrations.
[01:06:44] Thank you to Conner Olive for being on the show. We'll have you back again at a later time and see how things have changed for you.

Links and Resources:
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Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Kaci Bays
035 – Being 100% Available for Your Kids and Family
034 – Frustration, the Science of Achievement, the Art of Fulfillment, and Pie
CrossFit Now
Henry Kissinger
Albert Einstein
025 – Adventures of Bill, Bear and Buddy
036 – Connor Olive’s Life Transition
Vincent van Gogh
Irises Van Gogh
Abraham Lincoln
Sigmund Freud
Ernest Hemingway
Edgar Allan Poe
Charles Darwin
Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation?
Pharrell Williams
Viktor Frankl
Alexander Solzhenitsyn
The Power of Positive Thinking
The OA

Quotes:
“The person who loses their composure first loses the argument.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“When debating, learn everything you can about the other side before you argue your side.” Dr. Michael Bays
“There is a connection between math and music. Musical sound is a vibration which boils down to geometry and math.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The reason I like talking to these young people is because I like to get an idea of what they are thinking about.” Dr. Michael Bays
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Special guest Connor Olive is here to talk about a life transition he is going through. Connor is a 17 year old honor student, athlete, and musician who is going through a transition in his life. At The Hollow Tube, we like to talk with men and women who are going through transitions and thinking about what is going on in their lives. Patrick is watching the Super Bowl, so Michael and Connor are featured on this episode.

We talk about and listen to some of Connor’s music. Connor shares his passion about music and his big vision for the future. Connor understands the importance of focus and has even given up football to spend more time on the thing he loves. Michael asks Connor important questions about his life’s goals and shares wisdom from his perspective.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:47] Connor recently decided he didn't like the time commitment that high school football has taken. It was 6 1/2 hours out of his day. Music is what he wanted to focus on.
[03:30] Connor is also taking AP or advanced placement college level classes. You get a 5.0 for an A in an AP class.
[04:15] His whole family thought quitting football would be a big change, but they were supportive and respectful of Connor's decision. Plus they would have more family time.
[06:49] Connor plays piano and one of his songs were picked up on European radio.
[08:00] Connor's big vision is performing shows. We listen to his song I don't know on Spotify. He goes by the name Jovian.
[09:41] Connor writes his ideas in his phone, then he makes a beat, and goes from there.
[10:53] Connor's big vision. Is to create rap music with him and a DJ like Scott Golden. He is hoping to make enough to pay rent by the time he graduates. He is also graduating a semester early and wants to work in the music industry as he builds his music career.
[15:28] How focus is required to achieve your big vision.
[17:59] Where focus goes energy flows. Connor has written down his goals and plan to paint the picture of where he wants to be.
[19:31] Music is Connor's trigger. Connor collaborated with Gucci High Waters on Soldier.
[24:33] Connor's Uncle Steve influenced his interest in music and ambient music. Steve suggested Connor quit sampling and start singing himself.
[25:51] Connor says he is introverted and naturally depressed. Making a difference and making a connection will elicit positive emotions and help Connor and others.
[27:05] He is willing to sacrifice everything for his music.
[27:38] His sister is his biggest encouragement along with Scott and some other friends. His mom is also into the idea of pursuing music.
[29:00] The idea isn't to skip college. It is just to take time to focus all of his energy.
[31:03] Connor thinks music is why he is here. It makes a difference to him and other kids or people who may be depressed.
[32:45] Connor explains how the world seems chaotic and there is a lot going on to him. We are exposed to a lot. Our brains are designed to help us survive. The fight or flight scenario was to our advantage in the past.
[34:06] Five negative emotions and only one positive emotion of happiness.
[35:36] Taking steps towards your big vision. Will manifest positive emotions. These steps make anxiety and fear drop away.
[37:07] Making it means insane happiness and peaceful comfort. Connor would feel gratitude because this is a business that requires people.
[38:32] Being grateful is the secret to success. Make gratitude part of your discipline.
[46:08] Connor hasn't promoted his music, but he is getting thousands of plays.
[47:28] Always take steps forward and keep working on your song.

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Carl Sagan
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Stephan Hawking
I don’t know by Jovian on Spotify
Soldier by Jovian on Spotify
Songs by Jovian on Spotify
Scott Golden
GucciHighWaters

Quotes:
“I want to make a living out of performing music.” Connor Olive
“When you want to achieve something really big focus is required to achieve that big vision.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Comparing myself to others is something that I’m really bad about.” Connor Olive
“What you have to do is compare yourself to yourself and who you were yesterday.” Dr. Michael Bays
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Parents struggle with being the best parent they can be. We want to teach our children in a way that expresses love. When we were children, we grew up learning from our parents by mimicking them. Our children do the same thing with us. What type of example are we setting for our kids? It’s important to be introspective and examine the type of examples and cues that we are setting for our kids and consciously examine and change them if needed.

We discuss this and just letting your kids know that you are there for them. Just like they will be there for you when you need them. We also discuss how the meaning of life is to teach. Along with, the science of achievement, and the art of fulfillment. We revisit unlocking the secret of your goals, and how once you have unlocked the secret, you can go through the portal of achievement.

Topics Discussed Today
[04:54] Patrick shares his fun night last night at the Washington Athletic Club boxing event. The first two matches were female boxers. Some of the boxers are Olympic caliber. The night ended with a game of Liar's Poker.
[07:14] Gym adventures of naked guys hanging out in the locker room.
[09:32] Michael went to Barnes & Noble to get a couple of bookmarks. There was a book signing by Austin Thacker a young author who wrote a novel while recovering from cancer.
[11:37] Michael also got a haircut which includes conversation and feedback about the podcast. Chris brought up the episode where Michael was writing letters to Parker about his practice. Chris has been coaching his daughters soccer team. He is struggling with coaching and being a dad at the same time.
[14:51] He's been using role play and language the kids are familiar with to teach the kids soccer.
[15:46] Kids want to know that you always 100% there for them. They learn everything from watching us.
[16:50] The id is the unconscious mind based on instincts. The ego is the cognitive rationale mind. The superego is the morality or the conscious portion of our mind. All of the morality that comes from us as kids comes from our parents.
[17:56] We can control what we teach our children derived from our subconscious. What we teach our children, our children will teach their children.
[19:18] How important it is to look inside yourself. You can have a conscious override to that system of mimicking your parents and what you are showing your kids.
[20:53] How we get dopamine surges as we move forward and as kids model our good behavior.
[21:40] Michael shares a story of how he got drunk in front of his son. He was confused and disappointed all at the same time.
[23:00] The unexamined life is not worth living. We have to look introspectively at ourselves.
[24:58] Michael had a retina detachment and his mom and dad drove down and helped him. Michael dad was there when his wife left and when his dog died. They were there when he needed them.
[27:07] They also stayed there for their mom in the last stages of her cancer battle. Knowing that they were there is what she wanted.
[28:44] Raising your kids the way you want them to take care of you when the time comes.
[29:19] Imagine yourself through your kids eyes in 10 years.
[30:06] Think about what kind of values will take you to the next level. What is your north star.
[31:09] Living an ego centric life. Establish the superego so that it is foolproof.
[32:20] If you don't have an example in your life. Imagine that person and make them up.
[32:50] There are other people who have influenced kids besides their parents.
[35:28] Kids want to feel loved and nurtured and know that parents are there and available.
[36:02] What would it take to live an extraordinary quality of life or a life that you are proud of.
[36:56] The most important thing in life is whether your children are a reflection of who you want to be.
[38:04] The meaning of life is to teach.
[38:48] Living a life on your own terms. Whatever that means to you. A life with good relationships, health, and connection to god and a higher power.
[40:00] Not having a sense of meaning is devastating.
[40:15] The science of achievement and the art of fulfillment.
[40:19] A thing done successfully. Something that you have worked hard for. There is a formula for every achievement.
[42:15] You can any goal you want, but you have to look through that and find the secret of attaining that goal and unlocking the lock. Have a crystal clear vision of that goal.
[43:34] The number one energy of creation is focus and being able to visualize.
[44:23] The reticular activating system takes all of the input through our senses except for smell. It filters out what is important. This is important for our survival. When you focus on something you recognize patterns of it.
[46:25] The only reason perception exists is to show us to survive.
[48:21] All instincts and reflexes are genetically coded.
[49:17] Focus is a force of creation. Action take massive action.
[51:24] Finding the components necessary to figuring out a goal. Critical mass or the amount of product to make a process self-sustaining. Getting 10% or our brain to buy in. The tipping point is 10%.
[54:28] Grace comes in when you are totally aligned with your higher purpose. This is the faith that everything will work out in the end.
[55:21] Being able to achieve your goals with humility
[56:20] Why can we still be unhappy when we achieve a goal? A goal has to have a higher payoff. Do it in heroic way with humility. Self-actualization beyond basic needs makes you feel fulfilled.
[59:11] Stepping stones and moving forward with positive reinforcement. You need a non-tangible beyond material payoff.
[01:00:30] Growing and mastering a skill. Progress equals success. Giving more than we are receiving. Maintains balance. Being at peace with yourself, and you are happy.
[01:02:28] Leave the planet with a sense of joy.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Washington Athletic Club
My Hand Mitten by Austin Thacker
Circa 79
Sigmund Freud
Cliff Ravenscraft
The Tipping Point
Edward Demings
Jenn Cristy
One Pulse Entertainment

Quotes:
“All of the information that is coming from your subconscious that you learned from your parents can be discarded. You can control what you are perpetuating to your offspring. ” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Kids just want you to be there. They want you to be this constant presence in their lives.” Dr. Michael Bays
“We have a genetic predisposition to mimic or copy things. The people we copy from the most are our parents.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“We don’t give our parents enough credit. Our mom and dad were the type of people that if we needed them they would be there.” Dr. Michael Bays
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Michael kicks off the show with a funny take he saw on Family Guy about having an over inflated sense of self and podcasting. Then we start talking about focusing on external things in our lives, and how if you are unhappy before making a major change such as plastic surgery, there is a good chance you will still be unhappy afterwards. Then we move on to frustration and how important it is to remain calm and focus when faced with stress or frustration. We also talk about rituals and marking your territory when competing or performing under pressure.

Patrick refers back to the dance of the golden ring and how the ring is a metaphor for life. We can use this ring to fend off blows as we become more confident. We also talk about how the quality of our emotional state affects the quality of our lives. We also talk about how choosing our emotions, and how we react is similar to having a pie we like as opposed to a pie we hate. Emotional pie is another metaphor for choosing how we react. We will talk about the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment on next week’s episode, so we have more time to go into detail.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:25] Michael gives an awesome welcome to the podcast. It's a rip off from Family Guy. Very funny stuff!
[03:45] This week we will be talking about frustration, the science of achievement, the art of fulfillment and pie.
[03:52] How someone very close to us recently had a face lift. How we can be obsessed with how we present ourselves and externals things, yet we will remain in the same emotional home that we began with.
[05:48] This podcast is about purifying ourselves and peeling back the layers on the onion.
[05:51] Where's the b? The Tucson T Town Throwdown. Michael's superstar resident Dr. Barry's team took first place. Her team was Beyond Big and Smalls.
[06:46] There was a team obstacle course where they were given a combination to a lock. The lock is what will make the difference between winning and losing with close teams. The first thing Michael heard her say was where's the b? She adapted, adjusted, and unlocked the lock.
[09:52] Remaining calm and problem solving and not allowing frustration to derail you.
[12:11] Parker is working with a world class coach in Tucson for his discus training.
[13:36] How throwing a discus is actually a very technical thing. Parker was frustrated that his throws weren't as far as he wanted. Michael talks about Parker because the things he goes through can be applied to anybody's life.
[15:00] Parker's coach said he was focused on the distance, so his form and technique were going out the window.
[16:47] How Tiger Woods changed his swing and went backwards for awhile.
[17:53] Parker's coach wanted Parker to journal every step of the throwing process. All professional athletes and high performance players have rituals.
[19:03] The cure for frustration is focus. Mark your territory. Shake off the nerves and do some sprints or something to change your physiology. Breathe and make this part of your ritual.
[21:32] Constants and variables in every successful person. They do something before they perform. Doing things the same way every time will make you consistent.
[22:30] When entering the ring imagine it as your sacred circle and put the outcome way in the back of your mind.
[24:49] How professional athletes can be very superstitious. It's about being constant.
[26:29] Relaxing and trusting that your body knows what to do through repetition.
[27:33] How Bainbridge Island is notorious for storms, and they lose power when there are storms.
[28:21] Frustration is being upset or annoyed by the ability to achieve or change something. Disappointing or thwarting. Actions plus expectations can equal frustration.
[29:26] We can get upset or frustrated with other people's behavior.
[31:52] Patrick shares how he had to do a presentation for Allstate Insurance. His first one was in Seattle. His second one was near Spokane at Liberty Lake. The building had what looked like 1500 cubicles. The auditorium filled up, and then they piped the presentation to all of the Liberty Mutual offices.
[34:54] His first slide didn't work, but fortunately he had a Bluetooth mouse that worked. The point is not to get frustrated and lose it in front of all of those people. Stay calm and solve the problem.
[37:38] Taking people on the journey with you when you have technical difficulties.
[38:42] The opposite of frustration.
[39:48] How we tend to quit after a long term goal or project. Amateurs quit and pros muscle through and keep making micro adjustments until the unlock the lock.
[41:42] Being self-aware and realizing when something isn't working when you are by yourself and don't have a coach or mentor to help you. Working your way through the problem and maintaining composure.
[42:43] How being in the ring is a metaphor for Parker's life.
[43:39] The dance of the golden ring and using the ring to fend off blows and becoming more confident. The golden ring or shot put or discus ring is a great metaphor for life.
[44:30] Favorite pies pumpkin and pecan. How the quality of our emotional state determines the quality of our life.
[45:43] Looking back at our lives according to our emotional states. How emotional states can be looked at like a pie chart. The quality of our lives is directly proportional to the quality of our emotions.
[46:44] Do you want the most delicious pie you can imagine or the negative mince meat pie of your life? We choose the flavor of our pie at any given moment. Choosing your emotional pie in any given situation.
[49:48] Changing your situations or emotional focus.
[53:06] Wanting your life to be great. You don't want to dread your life. You want a beautiful life with a joyful passionate state.
[54:14] Growing, learning and contributing makes most people happy.
[57:18] How an extraordinary life for one person may not be an extraordinary life for another. Success without fulfillment is the ultimate failure.
[58:51] Michael gives shoutouts and plays a song by Kaci Bays.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Family Guy
CrossFit Now
Matt Prater
Bo Eason
Gladiator
Bo Jackson
016 – The Power to Shape Your Destiny
Albert Einstein
Tony Robbins
Viktor Frankl
Club 33
Kaci Bays

Quotes:
“We probably do have a little bit of an over inflated sense of self and a significant need to divulge information and hopefully some tidbits and pearls of wisdom to our listeners out there and around the world.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“We have over 100 combined years of life experience. We have experiential wisdom. We aren’t just bullshitting about what happens day to day. We talk about significant things.” Dr. Michael Bays
“If you are going to make any big change, you have to approach it from a position of strength and a place where you don’t need it to change your life, but you just want to make your life better.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The first place that you have to start with is in your head. You have to start working on your mind and this ego thing. That is what this podcast is all about.” Dr. Michael Bays

If you enjoyed this podcast please tell a friend. You can download our 40 Day Affirmation Challenge at The Hollow Tube. You can also look us up on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

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Everything we experience in life is experienced through our five senses in some ways. Yet, sometimes for one reason or another people lose one or more of these senses. In cases like this we learn to deal with what life gives to us. A couple examples we talk about are how Patrick is getting some dental work done and was worried that he would lose his ability to talk, and how Michael had to remove an eye of a cancer a patient.

We are who we are even if we lose a sense or a limb. We are our minds, brains, energy, spirit, and more. We also talk about the show Catfish and how it is a window into the world of millenials. We also talk about self-esteem, identity, and the six basics needs in life. We also talk about how filling these needs can become an addiction, fulfilling our top needs, and more.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:25] Patrick is getting some cosmetic work done on his teeth, and he has had braces on his uppers for a couple of months, and he just got braces on his lowers. He is now a true metal mouth like a teenager. It's only going to be for a few months. His biggest fear was not being able to talk, but once he starts talking he just forgets about it.
[05:24] Michael did an orbital exenteration for a cancer patient. Now the patient has to get an eye patch, prosthesis, or maybe some type of skin flap.
[07:48] How we are our mind, spirit, energy, and physical stature. Even without a limb or one of our senses, we are all the things we say we are. Being a human is exciting because of all of the facets that we are made of.
[10:22] The show Catfish and how one of the parties disappear when it is time to meet because they aren't who they say they are.
[11:58] What would compel someone to steal an identity in order to have an online relationship? Lack of self-esteem.
[12:45] Finding and filling our one or two predominate needs. For the catfish kids their biggest need is a need for significance and love and connection.
[14:31] How love is the oxygen of life. We sacrifice our values to fulfill our needs.
[15:08] Why would the person being deceived want to meet with the deceiver?
[16:02] Most people are forgiving even when they feel something was taken from them. They feel compassion and eventually want to give them a break.
[17:16] Human nature is based on trust. Losing trust makes people bitter and hesitant to give themselves to someone in the future.
[17:54] Being introspective and looking at ourselves.
[18:38] There is no more vulnerability that you can give than when you are in a relationship. After someone is betrayed, it is difficult to ever trust them again. It creates an underlying smoldering tension.
[20:37] Socrates and introspection. The unexamined life isn't worth living. The importance of being introspective on a daily basis.
[22:32] We create our behavior bases on our values. How Tony Robbins tries to get people dig deep and think about things. Going to the deepest parts of your brain and mind can be a little scary.
[23:43] Existential crisis of meaning. How there is an epidemic of drug and alcohol use with high school kids. Things seem to have escalated. Social isolation has escalated.
[25:44] Modern adolescents are trying to dull emotions through substances. Adults binge on food, or Netflix, or working too much. There is no way to dull negative emotions by medicating them without medicating joy.
[28:06] How it's becoming popular to become a victim.
[28:22] Questioning if life has value or feeling like life is meaningless.
[29:05] Reasons people feel like their life has no meaning include depression, sleep deprivation,prolonged isolation, and a major psychological trauma like death or divorce. Complexity and unpredictability have a lot to do with the feeling that life has no meaning.
[30:02] How Nihilist believed that life has no meaning. The meaning is just to exist. Anchoring or fixation points that allows us to focus attention in a consistent manner. Religious and god like people with ethos and a code of ethics. These people have their credo and values. Dismissing anything disturbing from your consciousness. Compartmentalization. Sublimation and refocusing on negative outlets to positive outlets. Dealing with existential crisis of meaning.
[32:31] How everything starts with the individual. Know what you stand for.
[33:32] Prioritize and stick with your values.
[35:08] Having the best possible goal. A goal that is good for you now and good for all time. Having a vision for your life and something bigger than you. Thinking about what's next and having a target to aim at.
[37:16] Figuring out what your best goal is. Michael shares his life's mission, and how he is going to be a hollow tube. His ultimate goal is to keep expanding his spirit.
[38:28] Go through your values. Write them down and then prioritize them.
[39:10] Michael's current number 1 value is passion. He also prioritizes his other main values. Judgement is the number thing that Michael is trying to get away from.
[41:34] How people's insecurities are caused by lack of self esteem. Negative reinforcement can create negative self identification.
[45:47] Michael shares a story about his dad. When Michael was in 4th grade, he went without talking to his dad to see how long it would take before his dad noticed. He made it to about a month.
[51:25] How we have the power to choose our response and not blaming. Our decisions shape our destiny.
[53:36] How stepping back, breathing, and thinking before responding. Having a confident inner smile. I got this.
[54:36] Write down your values. Imagine your ideal self in the future.
[57:06] Next week we are talking about the science of achievement and the art of fulfillment.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Catfish
Dante’s Inferno
The Essentials of Philosophy
Socrates
019 – Who Will You Be When the Big Storm Comes
020 – Who Will You Be When the Storm Comes? Continued
032 – Date With Destiny with Kaci Bays
The Last Messiah
Hamlet
Jordan B. Peterson
Viktor Frankl
Man’s Search for Meaning
Kaci Bays
CrossFit Now

Quotes:
“It makes me nauseous to think of removing a part of one of the main senses, but we learn to adjust to what life hands us.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Everything we ever encounter in life comes through our five senses.” Dr. Michael Bays
“I feel sorry for the person getting catfished. They are falling in love, and they feel like their life is changing for the better, yet the whole thing is built on a lie.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“We have six basic needs in life including a need for certainty, variety, significance, love and connection, growth, and contribution.” Dr. Michael Bays
If you enjoyed this podcast please tell a friend. You can download our 40 Day Affirmation Challenge at The Hollow Tube. You can also look us up on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

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Kaci Bays is back to talk about her and Michael's trip to the Tony Robbins Date With Destiny event. Patrick, Michael and Kaci discuss Tony Robbins, walking on hot coals, and inspiration. We talk about early Tony Robbins and how he turned negatives in his early life into positives of his current life. Patrick also reminds Michael of how his letter writing to Parker set an example and inspired him to encourage Kaci after she passed her real estate exam.

We also share a behind the scenes look at everything that happens at Date With Destiny from high-fives, chain massages, and those quiet times that are touchingly inspirational. We talk about even if you are a skeptic, there is a lot to get out of these events. We also talk about creating and asking your one question, prioritizing your values, and creating your four goals for the new year. Kaci and Michael also met some really cool people and give shout outs to new friends and future Hollow Tube guests.

Topics Discussed Today
[03:01] Michael's favorite Christmas moment was when Kaci was singing to their granddaughter Lincoln Lily and Lincoln Lily was singing back.
[04:08] Michael and Patrick have had some recording technical difficulties. Patrick bought a new microphone, so everything should be loud and clear. He thinks his fireplace may have burned his old microphone.
[06:00] Michael and Kaci just got back from the Tony Robbins event Date With Destiny.
[07:13] Michael got into Tony Robbins in the 90s when Tony had those infomercials.
[07:53] Tony started out broke, and then three years later was a multimillionaire.
[08:29] Tony Robbins had fear on his first big webinar when he saw the huge crowd waiting for him.
[09:13] Kaci shares how Tony says not to blame your past for how you are today. He had an abusive mother, but was able to overcome that and turn a negative into a positive.
[10:02] Patrick shares how we have no right to blame our parents for what has happened to us.
[11:27] Kaci and Michael walked on hot coals at an Unleash the Power Within event. Loud drums were playing and there were thousands of people there. People lined up and walked on the coals.
[13:59] Patrick shares his fire walking experience in Bali. He was wearing a sarong and big guys said it was time to walk. He said it was terrifying, and he is glad that he did. Accomplishing something that you would never do.
[15:36] Kaci enjoyed the quiet moments and thinking back in the most important events of her life. It was emotionally overwhelming. As opposed to the high fives and chain massages.
[16:49] How Michael was kind of a side hugger. Yet, he was high fiving people at the airport.
[18:58] The event was in West Palm Beach, FL. They also got colds from all of the contact. The worst thing for Kaci was all of the shoulder massaging.
[19:59] Having to get in groups of three for a shoulder chain massage. It was also freezing cold there, and Kaci had to get a scarf.
[21:25] Breaking through people's personal space barrier which makes an intimate setting.
[21:52] Kaci ducked into the bathroom for the massage parts. She looks over and sees Michael is in a massage train in between two 60 or 70 year-old men.
[23:29] Usher was there and Julianne and Derek Hough. They go to many of the events. They both have events too. Tim Ferriss was also there.
[24:22] The guy who started Dog The Bounty Hunter was also there.
[25:11] The celebrities had a corralled off area, but they were also just walking around the event. Usher also got on stage and danced.
[25:44] There was no fire walk at this event, and it was smaller with 5000 people.
[27:02] How there were so many different topics. People fill out an online questionnaire and Tony talks about some of the topics. 18 people raised their hands when asked about ending their lives. Including a 15-year-old girl who had attempted suicide.
[28:31] How Tony got on his knees and talked to her It was inspirational. Most people had amazing stories. You get so much out of it in spite of the massaging etc.
[29:25] The main thing for Kaci is deciding what she wants to do in the future. She went to real estate school and it was overwhelming. She decided to go back and finish. She picked herself up even though she had reservations. This also inspired Parker her son.
[32:51] Kaci passed the real estate test and then though the Tony Robbins would be really motivating. The relationship, self-esteem, confidence and everything was great.
[33:39] At the end they make a bulletin board with their primary question. Phrase the question positively.
[34:32] Kaci's question was: "What will it take for me to be the best me I can possibly be for myself and others?"
[37:11] Towards values are health, fitness and being active. You have to pick 13 of your top values. What is going to take you forward. They have to be ranked in order of importance. At the end, most people change their values.
[38:43] How Kaci felt like she lost her identity when she stopped touring. She is reinventing herself.
[40:06] How these seminars really make you think about what is important to you and what your values are.
[40:51] First you brainstorm then stop and prioritize the goals.
[41:28] Creating your top four one year goals. For Kaci get in shape, sell five houses, audition for The Voice, and take her dad to a PGA Tournament.
[47:34] Michael's goal is to finish 10 dance lessons with Kaci, finish The Hollow Tube rough draft, and an outline for their workshop, and 100,000 podcast downloads.
[50:07] Michael's primary question: "How can I even more appreciate and enjoy the wisdom, excellence, and joy within me right now”?
[50:55] How Michael is infatuated with excellence. We all have a certain level of mastery within us already. Recognizing these make creates a self-reinforcing and perpetuating thing. Actively searching for the good things within yourself.
[52:44] Michael's number one towards value is passion.
[53:39] How Dan Moreno's dad wrote him letters similar to the ones that Michael writes Parker.
[55:47] Parker wrote Kaci a Christmas letter about how proud he was of her. That is all she wants from her kids. Parker emulated Michael with an example of letter writing, and what he should aspire to.
[57:54] Teaching our children by teaching ourselves. How the meaning of life is to teach and give life meaning.
[59:17] Acknowledging little moments that give our life meaning. Things that are important are hard.
[01:02:34] Date With Destiny is about working on yourself and relationships. It's similar to Michael's South American trips or the big medicine. Everyone could get something out of it. Event he skeptics.
[01:05:17] Making corrections to reach your port of destination.
[01:05:54] Kaci and Michael met Ryan Hudson Peralta at the event. They might have Bill Miller from Look Mom No Hands on the podcast.
[01:10:17] Kaci and Michael share stories about all of the other cool people they met.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Kaci Bays
Date With Destiny
I’m Am Not Your Guru
Unleash the Power Within
Usher
Julianne Hough
Derek Hough
Dog The Bounty Hunter
The Voice
Crossfit Now
Dan Moreno
Ryan Hudson Peralta
Look Mom No Hands
Impress Communications

Quotes:
“It’s amazing how Tony Robbins overcame his childhood and didn’t place blame, but instead made a positive out of a negative.” Kaci Bays
“You are what you came through. If you came through those fires, it will turn you into the person that you are ultimately going to be.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Get comfortable with being uncomfortable.” Dr. Michael Bays
If you enjoyed this podcast please tell a friend. You can download our 40 Day Affirmation Challenge at The Hollow Tube. You can also look us up on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram.

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The Hollow Tube will open for all of us whether we are ready or not. Many times a crisis will cause the door to swing open for a brief period of time. Stepping in, taking responsibility and picking up a burden will help us grow and transform ourselves into who we are becoming. 

On this episode we offer insights and advice to a young man who has faced some extreme challenges that have tested him psychologically, emotionally and spiritually.. Scott is a 16-year-old athlete and musician whose father suffered a massive stroke two years ago. Scott recounted his experience and difficulties in Episode 30: Road to Recovery. 

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This week’s episode features Scott Golden. Scott is a sixteen-year-old high school student, athlete and musician whose life was turned completely upside down two years ago when his father suffered a massive stroke. I was impressed with Scott's honesty and courage as he described how this shocking tragedy has affected him and his family.
How he has been tested psychologically, spiritual and emotionally. How has he coped? What are his dreams for the future? What does he do now? This episode will apply to anyone who has ever faced the catastrophic illness of a loved one. This is why we do this podcast.

Topics Discussed Today
[03:15] Patrick isn't here tonight, but guest host Scott Golden is going to tell his story.
[03:41] Scott is friends with Parker Bays. They were in class and Scott was escorted to the office and his neighbor met him there and she drove him to the hospital.
[04:41] All Scott knew was that something happened with his dad. Scott's dad was a triathlete training for a race in Konam and he was only 48.
[05:42] Scot walked into the hospital room and his mom was crying and he found out his dad had a stroke.
[06:37] There was a delay in the stroke diagnosis which may have led to further complications.
[07:05] Scott's dad was limping during his run, and he kept falling on the path, and his speech was affected. His brother found him face down on his bed and they called an ambulance.
[10:43] Scott's dad was in the hospital from October to December. Scott and his dad were really bonding at this point in their lives.
[13:06] Scott's dad was partially paralyzed and could mostly nod instead of speaking.
[17:25] Scott's brother was angry and his whole family was at the house. Some were having issues with anger with god.
[18:44] After Scott's dad couldn't work they had to downsize their house and move.
[21:36] Scott was angry and he started smoking weed and drinking.
[22:36] Scott's dad had a three wheeled bike and was doing therapy and things were coming around. He crashed on his bike and the therapy was way too expensive. During the crash Scott's dad broke his collarbone and became bedridden. Eventually, he was able to go on walks after the crash.
[26:45] Scott was smoking weed at a park, and he heard a car and it was the police.
[29:08] Scott's mom came down and it was on Scott's record for a couple of months.
[30:21] Scott was being drug tested all of the time. He couldn't go anywhere, so he decided to focus on music and volleyball. Scott's dad can talk now.
[33:07] Scott's mom is handling things, but things are hard. She works and takes care of Scott's dad. She is taking the weight of everybody's world on her shoulders.
[34:41] Scott's mom has a solid foundation in her faith.
[36:16] Don't turn to substances when problems happen.
[39:24] Finding gratitude in times of trouble and illness.
[43:27] How Scott appreciates that his dad is still around and their relationship is still growing.
[44:08] Scott and another guy named Connor are recording music together. They are planning on releasing an EP and a video on December 12th.
[46:26] Scott's heart says to follow music and not let it go.
[47:23] Scott is at a crossroads between music and college.
[50:38] The importance of taking a breath and relaxing.
[51:30] If you wake up to your destiny it will pull you towards it. How music is Scott's therapy. Scott's pain is his muse.
[54:48] How Scott should do the 40-day affirmation challenge, and the answer will come to him.
[57:02] If you have the vision and remove all self-doubt and get a notebook and write a day in your life when you have achieved what you want. Somewhere out of this is your vision, and the key that will keep you going through the hard spots.
[01:01:40] Kerry Ann Golden is the super mom who holds it all together.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
DaVinci Studios
William Hung

Quotes:
“You’re never a failure as long as you are trying something.” Dr. Michael Bays
“If it is something you are actually good at, and you are getting better then you can follow your passion” Dr. Michael Bays
“The only thing that stayed the same was my dad’s humor which was awesome. Some people come back from strokes angry.” Scott Golden
“As hard as it is, having my dad here is so much better than not having him here.” Scott Golden
“I hugged my mom and for the first time ever she felt fragile to me. I felt like I needed to protect her.” Scott Golden

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Michael and Patrick are both in Phoenix for this podcast. They also have a special guest their nephew Chad Smith. The whole family was together for Thanksgiving, and Chad is joining today's show. Chad is from San Francisco. He is a graduate of Arizona State University and is 33 years old. Chad is a DJ in San Francisco with a huge following.

Last night while sitting outside watching the stars, Chad asked a very important question. He wants to know what he should do with the rest of his life. We talk about some of the trials Chad has gone through, and the challenges of being a creative and following his passion. We all share some personal stories, and Chad shares how he overcame addiction, how he wants to find the perfect partner, and more.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:46] What should Chad do with the rest of his life?
[03:30] Chad has always been a fan of music, and he saw an electronic music show with Paul Van Dyk.
[04:03] He was hooked from that moment on. Then he got turntables and became a DJ.
[05:04] His day job and his weekends being a DJ didn't match up. Chad is living his passion, but he still feels there is something to strive for.
[06:00] Passion takes suffering and sometimes Chad has to take gigs that go against his creative integrity.
[07:39] Chad started with pot then tried other drugs before getting into heroin when he was around 24 or 25.
[08:20] He hit rock bottom when he was renting out rooms in his house to roommates. He had a 19 year-old roommate that wanted to go shopping with him.
[11:16] Having a moment of clarity for the first time and seeing things for how they really are. This is when Chad decided to get help.
[11:43] Patrick's son Brandon went through something similar as an alcoholic.
[12:35] Chad ran into Brandon at a 12-step program and they bonded going through the whole thing together.
[13:53] The moment of clarity and facing reality. The shopping invitation made Chad realize that he needed help with his drug addiction.
[15:35] Chad called his older brother and asked for help.
[16:34] Chad had missed a lot of work because of his drug addiction. He didn't care what happened with is job. He just wanted to be well. He didn't get fired because he was in treatment and was able to go back to his position.
[17:52] Chad was in a spiritual slump and tried mushrooms and went to Golden Gate Park. He didn't drink or do anything like that since then.
[21:01] How the addict brain doesn't react like a normal person's brain.
[23:53] Chad got into fitness right away to replace the drugs with something healthy.
[26:20] Identifying something greater than yourself is a huge part of the recovery process. Chad believes in the Universe's energy.
[28:21] Getting control of your thoughts and your mind. Feelings of not being loved.
[29:08] Healing the wounded child. We don't recognize the behaviors of the wounded child who doesn't feel significant.
[30:04] Patrick tells a story about being a Little League pitcher who was having a bad game. He said he was sick and tried to walk off the field. When he got home he was punished by being beat with a belt.
[34:50] Michael could never do anything good enough as the middle kid. Everything had already been done. Plus, he wasn't good at baseball.
[36:13] Patrick would always get locked out of the house and have to wonder around. He got hot and lay down in the carport. Then he had to go get his tonsils out, and he was left at the hospital alone. He felt lonely not having anyone in his corner.
[39:03] Being aware of our behavior and how it is manifesting.
[39:53] Patrick wakes up wanting to accomplish something everyday to validate his worth.
[40:46] Moving on from this point forward.
[41:06] Patrick had to do well in sports and school. His moment of clarity came to him when he was a kid. These things drove him to achieve what he has achieved.
[42:55] Chad just got out of a relationship. He takes the end of relationships very hard. He gets inspired by his romantic relationships.
[44:06] How women think of things in the long run. Being a DJ makes it hard to have a true connection.
[44:56] Financial stability is important to women.
[47:54] The duality of living his passion or have a life with a wife and children.
[48:27] Sometimes other things need to be done to put money on the table. You just need to be creative about it.
[49:28] Chad needs someone who gets him.
[50:18] Creatives get along better with people in their own fields.
[51:03] Actors marry other actors because they get each other. They are also insecure and live for the applause to validate who they are.
[54:21] A day in Chad's life 10 years from now. Write it down. You can't hit a target without envisioning it.
[57:42] Everything starts from a place of gratitude. Think of two or three things that you are grateful for. Once you come from a place of gratitude.
[59:20] Chad is getting a gratitude journal he learned to be grateful and persevere so good things will happen.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Paul Van Dyk
The Power of Now
Gabor Mate
DJ Yoda
Chad Bays Music on Soundcloud
Chad Bays on Facebook
Chad Bays on Instagram
Tim Ferris
I’m OK - You’re OK
Games People Play
Chad Bays on Spotify

Quotes:
“Playing for a live crowd was a feeling unlike any other, and I was hooked.” Chad Smith
“I personally feel safer in my heart knowing that you guys are on your way to recovery, and you have recovered and are doing what you want to do in your life.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The moment of clarity when you face reality is step one in changing your reality.” Dr. Michael Bays
“I went to pharmacy school, and my professor was an expert in the effects of natural sources of drugs.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“It takes many moments of trial and tribulations to lead up to that moment of ultimate decision to change the course of your life.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Patrick had an interesting week. He is going to call himself "the last customer." He ordered custom glass and called the owner to see what was taking so long. The woman on the phone told him he was the last customer. The owner of the company passed away after taking measurements for Patrick's table. Patrick was shaken by this. Then after going to his hairdresser, three days later, he found out that this wonderful woman named Stacy had died. He was also her last customer. It turned out that Stacy had a terminal disease.

Today, we are discussing how to survive anything life throws at you. We are sometimes thrust into catastrophic or life altering situations. These are emergency situations that can be life threatening or situations where the social structure breaks down. It’s up to us to take control of our emotions, stay calm, and do what needs to be done. We discuss the stages of survival, rules of survival, some great resources, and more.

Topics Discussed Today
[03:23] Patrick's story of being the last customer.
[04:26] Patrick's trip to his awesome hairdresser Stacy was on last Tuesday. Friday the owner of the salon said that Stacy had died, and Patrick was her last customer.
[11:45] Wondering how and why people die and the book Deep Survival.
[14:17] What it takes to survive and how people get in those situations and what we need to do to survive in these situations.
[15:00] The importance of not giving up or willing yourself to die.
[15:34] Stages of survival are the same as the 5 stages of grief.
[16:25] Having the basic concept down of doing the right things as opposed to the wrong things.
[16:59] 12 Rules for Survival. 1. Perceive and believe. Face reality and accept responsibility.
[19:00] Being frozen in time and having your brain shut down. Some major catastrophe in your life and finding your way out and taking responsibility.
[20:16] Leaders, followers, flee-ers, and flounder-ers. Things that take place when the social system breaks down.
[22:49] 2. Stay calm and control your emotions.
[24:46] How Michael was the guy who saved the day during a blocked airway situation. He had to focus on controlling his breathing to stay calm during the procedure.
[25:56] The tracheotomy and securing the airway to make it possible for this patient to breath.
[27:48] Taking a self-assessment and looking within in an emergency situation.
[30:44] Constants and variables.
[30:54] Patrick shares a story about an orthopedic surgeon who asked him to assist during surgery. (graphic surgery story)
[37:00] The most important quality of a surgeon is common sense.
[39:01] Don't let the cement harden and thinking whether something is time sensitive.
[39:40] 3. Think analyze and plan.
[41:12] How we all have an internal GPS. Break your biggest problem down into steps.
[41:52] Backtracking instead of getting completely lost. Find something familiar and comfortable. Sometimes to move forward you have to go backwards.
[42:54] 4.Take correct precise action. Survivors take risk, but are also bold and cautious.
[44:22] Taking calculated risks and celebrating your successes.
[48:36] 5. Celebrate your successes.
[49:25] 6. Count your blessings and be grateful.
[50:46] How a positive mental attitude will get you through things. Don’t waste time on negative things.
[53:11] Einstein time - you will get there when the time is right.
[53:43] Being in the moment and 100% focused.
[57:29] The importance of relaxing and putting yourself in a flow state.
[57:57] 7. Play and enjoy the survivor journey.
[59:44] 8. See the beauty.
[59:55] Aboriginal trail of stories or dreams. Using visual images to recall the trail and enhance our senses.
[01:01:35] Perceiving the beauty enhances our survival by enhancing our senses.
[01:02:01] 9. Believe that you will succeed. Just do it.
[01:04:28] 10. Surrender and let go of the fear of dying. Then develop a plan and don’t give up.
[01:06:03] 11. Do whatever is necessary.
[01:08:46] 12. Never give up. There is always one more thing that you can do. Find something to live for.
[01:10:12] The way we live our lives on a daily basis is a big predictor of who survives.
[01:11:59] Happy Birthday to Patrick's daughter Morgan, who he happened to deliver when she was being born.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Deep Survival
On Grief and Grieving: Finding the Meaning of Grief Through the Five Stages of Loss
All Is Lost
127 Hours
Castaway
Viktor Frankl
Circa 79 Salon
Miyamoto Musashi
CrossFit Now

Quotes:
“The only thing I can think of is that she wanted to live as normal a life as possible.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Step one is admitting that you are in trouble and finding a way to get yourself out.” Dr. Michael Bays
“For a person to have that kind of knowledge and act so perfectly in control and normal is one of the most powerful and heroic things I can think of.” Dr. Patrick Bays
"People want to make the reality fit their mind, instead of their mind fitting reality.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Perceiving the beauty enhances our survival by enhancing our senses.” Dr. Michael Bays

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We have a very special guest tonight. Michael’s son Parker is on the show! Michael shares another adventure with Bill and Bear. Then we tackle the big question of what should Parker do with his life. He is in high school and excels at sports, but he is just not sure how he should plan his future. Michael and Patrick ask questions to help Parker get clarity about what he wants, and we discuss options like going to college and gaining expertise that he will be known for.
We also talk about doing the best job possible no matter what the task and using that as a metaphor for life. Uncle Patrick also shares how he was the only male candy striper at his local hospital before medical school. We also talk about the importance of being a mentor or a teacher. One of the things Parker enjoys is writing, and we explore the traits of great writers, how to get to the muse, and more.

Topics Discussed Today
[02:27] How Parker is like a folk hero on this show and his name is mentioned a lot. How it is nice to bring him onto the episode.
[03:02] How Parker gave in and agreed to be on the podcast.
[03:40] Parker has listened to the most recent podcasts.
[04:18] How a lot of young people may not listen to two or three guys talking for an hour.
[04:37] How Patrick's son Brandon just moved to Brazil, and Patrick encouraged him to listen to the podcasts on his flight.
[05:53] Michael had a new experience with Bill and Bear. Parker and Michael got a tent for Bill. They also picked out some other things from Walmart. He even got some big cans of beer.
[07:11] Michael gave Bill a tent, but Bill didn't want the fruit or the beer because it was too weak. Michael gave Bear a collar with Michael's info in case there is never an emergency.
[09:29] Bill has COPD and Michael is going to get him a new inhaler.
[11:03] Bill is moving to the desert where there is less wind and cold. Bill also requested Taco Bell with two soft tacos and a burrito.
[12:22] Michael brought Bill gifts, but they were perceived as attachments.
[14:08] How from now on Michael is just giving Bill what he asks for.
[14:19] Parker's big question. He's not sure what he is going to do with his life.
[15:38] Parker is a TA for the football coach at his high school. He was wondering how much he makes as a teacher and coach.
[16:53] How most teachers don't make anything close to what they are worth.
[18:56] When starting to think about what you want to do in life, the first bit of advice is to relax and not force it.
[19:21] Your passion may not end up being your career.
[20:13] Parker isn't sure what his passion is. He is so far doing things because he likes stuff.
[20:34] He likes track.
[20:51] First decide if you want to work in a blue collar field or do something that requires an advanced degree.
[21:09] There are a lot of technical schools that you can go to. Mechanics and plumbers and people who know trades make a decent living.
[21:45] How a college degree is the entry point for anything. It is the old equivalent of a high school diploma.
[22:31] All professions require at least a four-year college degree. Going to college allows you to become more socially oriented.
[23:14] How college is a great place to network and explore diverse interests.
[25:32] Auditing college courses to learn stuff that you are interested in. Spending time devoting yourself to what you're interested in.
[26:06] Making sure you finish college when you start it. It's important to get that degree.
[26:50] College is a momentum based projection. Once you lose that momentum it is hard to get it back.
[28:16] Parker feels like he will still be stuck when he gets to college.
[28:37] Fortunately, he can focus on his general ed classes while he explores everything that is out there.
[29:26] Being aware of what is going on around you and look for qualities of people that you admire and ask them questions.
[31:54] Dedicating yourself to your job and becoming the best person that you can be.
[32:48] Think about what you want out of your life.
[33:21] Parker still feels he is too young to know what he wants to do with his life.
[34:01] In order to be known for something, you have to have expertise in something. People are known because they have a certain expertise that makes them stand out.
[36:00] Delivering a little bit more of what is asked of you.
[37:26] Looking at every task like a game and doing the best you can even at menial tasks.
[39:34] When Patrick researched extracurricular activities to get into medical school. He became the only male candy striper at his local hospital.
[43:19] Parker is good at Social Media. That is a skill he could teach.
[44:05] How all of the little kids in the family look up to Parker and want to be around him.
[50:26] Math also comes natural to Parker. People good in math have the ability to think in abstractions.
[51:57] Parker is also a great writer and doing great in English.
[52:25] Patrick think's Parker may be a polymath.
[58:03] The importance of critical thinking and breaking it down in simple terms that anyone can understand.
[58:31] Benjamin Franklin was a self-trained writer. How great writers are prolific readers.
[01:01:50] How watching Stranger Things made Parker realize that being an actor would be fun.
[01:02:40] How actors need to expose themselves and be vulnerable.
[01:03:27] The most important people of any genre are the screenwriters. Great screenwriters are the heart and soul of acting.
[01:04:27] Patrick challenged Parker to send him a short story that he has written. They can be writing buddies.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Bill Gates
Tim Ferris
Tony Robbins
Mark Zuckerberg
Red Adair
Tommy John Surgery
Frank Jobe
George Roundy
Edgar Allen Poe
The Mask of the Red Death
The Raven
A Tell Tale Heart
Benjamin Franklin
Deep Survival
Stranger Things
CrossFit Now

Quotes:
“I didn’t know what I wanted to do when I was Parker’s age.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The more you have, the more it weighs you down. The more you own, the more it owns you.” Dr. Michael Bays
“It’s really about covering your bases. First decide if you want to work in a blue collar field or do something that requires an advanced degree.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The universe will give you what you ask for.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Me and my friends would never listen to your podcast.” Parker Bays
“You do me wrong one time and that’s it.” Bill

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In honor of our new website launch, big shoutout to Anthony and Linh Tran at Marketing Access Pass, we are going to share what the Hollow Tube concept means to us. We wanted to collaborate on a book together and in our discussions we came upon the concept of the Hollow Tube. Then our energy shifted to starting and creating the podcast, but we still have a lot of great Hollow Tube stuff written.

Patrick decided to start working on the Hollow Tube book manuscript and has come up with the prologue. He shares portions of the prologue and how asking the right questions can lead to powerful self-exploration and transformation. We also share parts of Chapter 1 of the Hollow Tube book. Michael recently had some feelings of overwhelm and doubts about the podcast and book. We also discovered that positive input goes a long way. Thank you to everyone who shares positive insights and listens to our show.

Topics Discussed Today

[04:47] The Hollow Tube prologue that conceptualizes the idea of the Hollow Tube.
[06:01] How there are two red chairs and a table with a red phone that is ringing. As the phone rings you wonder how your life's journey has led you to this place.
[08:23] How the red phone rings for each of us when we often least expect it. Life can be challenging, complex, and confusing.
[09:12] Asking ourselves is this all there is to life? We know we are meant to do more. A call to action for the living. Who am I? Where am I headed? Self-exploration and transformation.
[10:31] Chapter one. When we become hollow bones there is no limit to what we can do. How the Hollow Tube is a megaphone that makes our voices louder.
[15:15] How the Hollow Tube leads a path of synchronicity to stay on our path.
[18:47] Patrick is plugging away on the book. He is up to chapter four. Michael is still working on the 40-day affirmation challenge. Which will be chapter 29.
[19:52] The affirmation challenge and how to do an affirmation and how to not do an affirmation.
[20:45] How everything we are working on is going to be synergistic and meld together.
[21:39] How Patrick is going to push Michael through the Hollow Tube whenever he has self-doubt.
[22:00] Michael's son Patrick listened to the last Hollow Tube episode.
[23:07] How the worst fielder is put in right field not left field. Michael was in right field, as a boy, not left field.
[26:29] How blaming others for your situation is playing the blame game.
[26:49] Parker enjoyed the story of the candle office fire and how it affected the lives of so many other people.
[28:08] How the original premise of the Hollow Tube was going to be for millennials. The fact that Parker finally listened to the podcast was one of the happiest moments of Michael's life.
[28:55] How Michael's friend Tanmeet Sethi has so much going on and how she inspires Michael.
[31:54] How what Michael and Patrick are doing is right for them.
[33:41] How top shelf tequila is designed to sip and it has a nice flavor.
[36:02] How masters become masters and the steps required and habits and traits of people at the top of their field. It all boils down to having a clear specific goal and a clear vision.
[37:20] If you don't know where you are going nothing will push you to your destination.
[38:11] Staying focused and totally invested in the moment.
[38:42] Patrick's goal to graduate as first in his class ever.
[39:44] Patrick's method for studying was every night from 7 to 10 o'clock and he would study 4 to 6 hours on weekends. He went over his studies while laying in bed. Every question is something that would happen in a lecture. Patrick would listen for the instructor's voice for clues about what topics and questions will be on the test.
[41:47] Being 100% invested in the lecture and you can hear and feel the inflection of the instructor's voice to see what will be on the exam.
[43:09] Getting to the bugs on the tree or the last detail that goes from a 95% to a 100% or more. How the transition of knowledge from the page to the brain takes place on your own.
[44:39] How having the information in your mind will make you do well on the test.
[45:44] The importance of getting comfortable being uncomfortable.
[47:13] If you are not uncomfortable at some point, you are not striving to do your best.
[48:47] 1. Have a clear specific goal. 2. Stay focused. 3. Get comfortable being uncomfortable. 4. Constant feedback.
[52:04] How practice needs to be guided by a trainer or a coach or mentor.
[52:44] It's our goal for the entire podcast to be mentors.
[53:19] The purpose of life is to bring more life on the planet. The meaning of life is to teach people things that you have learned.
[54:20] The importance of constant deliberate practice. Mozart's dad dedicated his whole life to training Mozart and his sister in music theory.
[58:49] Visit our website and sign up for our email list and tell us who you are.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Marketing Access Pass
Frank Fools Crow
025 – Adventures of Bill, Bear and Buddy
Baseball Bounces Off Of Jose Canseco's Head For A Home Run
Tanmeet K. Sethi
Tanmeet Sethi, MD
Viktor Frankl
Sipping Tequila
Peak: Secrets from the New Science of Expertise
Machiavelli
023 – The Sweetheart of Southern Arizona Kaci Bays
Bo Eason
Mozart
Ove Johansson
Matt Prater
Circa 79 Salon
CrossFit Now
Kaci Bays

Quotes:

“Ultimately, we just want our lives to be purposeful, to matter, and to make a difference.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The worst sound I could possibly imagine was the crack of the bat and the subsequent thud of the ball.” Dr. Michael Bays
“We have to bring the podcast and the manuscript together in one great big explosion of knowledge.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“You have to face reality and look at your life and accept 100% responsibility for what happens in your life.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Today, we are going to revisit the 40 day affirmation challenge. Michael just finished his, and we are going to talk about that. Patrick shares more about the fire he mentioned last week. He had left a candle burning in his Bainbridge Island office, and it started a fire. He was returning from a trip and got the message at the Spokane airport.

It’s amazing that more damage wasn’t done, and Patrick is so thankful that no one got hurt. He has now switched to LED candles. We also talk about our dad and his artwork that he calls cluster creations. We also share stories and insights about life and surgery and try to share interesting and inspiring knowledge for you to ponder until next week. We also help a listener construct an affirmation. Michael also shares an awesome story about helping the homeless man and his dog that he met last episode.

Topics Discussed Today

[05:39] Michael was taking Wanda his dad's caretaker home to his dad's house, and he got the opportunity to observe his dad going through objects at his house. it's fascinating to think what had been going through his dad's mind.
[07:42] Michael and Patrick's dad used to make cluster creations which are works of art made out of random items. He called himself Colonel Cluster or Senior Cluster.
[11:15] Using long strokes with a scalpel during surgery and lifting tissue as a unit to make finishing the surgery look natural.
[14:04] Michael got a sandwich, dog food, and some other supplies for the homeless man he met last week. Michael helped Bill help Bear the dog with a problem the dog was having. Michael got scissors, soap, and baby wipes and they clipped the feces covered hair from the dog’s rear.
[20:46] Michael was invested in helping Bill and Bear for awhile.
[21:18] His affirmation about having compassion and stepping back from judgment applies to him helping Bill and Bear.
[25:13] Christian's life is in turmoil, and she needs help with her affirmations. She is having trouble expressing herself and self-sabotaging.
[26:49] She shares what she wants in a handwritten note to Michael. She wants to be strong enough to build the life that she wants.
[27:42] Michael highlighted some of the words in her note. Such as chaos. Out of chaos comes potential. Redirecting yourself can lead to your ultimate potential.
[29:15] Looking at opposites of hang-ups. Like stability as opposed to chaos. Being the calm at the center of the storm.
[30:07] Playing the role of the victim. Survivor, champion, predator, or hunter. Christian needs to grow fangs and be like a panther. Not a victim, but a hunter.
[31:45] Be 10% of the animal you embody like a jaguar, a panther or lion. Nothing and nobody is going to get in my way.
[32:38] Trouble being concise, but her word choices were very descriptive. Side is a position of an object on a central point. Turmoil is great confusion. Literal is non-metaphoric. Circumstances facts or conditions. Conveying a thought or feeling.
[34:22] Patrick made a story based around the words in Christian's question.
[35:00] Christian's predicament is similar to a contrecoup brain injury where a blow on one side affects the opposite side.
[35:32] Circumstances on one side cause turmoil on the other. Pelvic ring shatters are the same kind of concept.
[36:32] The dance of the golden ring. Trauma in the form of a golden circle. The force that hits you from behind are the circumstances. The force of the inertia are the turmoil. Core wounds are bruises. An injury to one part causes injuries to another part. The ring surrounding your body is a form of self-sabotage.
[39:08] The solution is to lift the golden ring until it is above your head or opening up. It will no longer impact your body. You now control the ring and can use it to your advantage. And have it protect you from dark forces in the future.
[44:46] Looking at your life and accepting it for what it is and being 100% responsible for your life going forward.
[45:55] How we have got to see the life that we want. See and visualize every part of the life you want.
[51:35] How everything comes from a place of gratitude. Come up with the things to be grateful for and say your affirmation four or seven times twice a day.
[52:30] Do your affirmation 40-days and 40-nights in a row. It takes spiritual and physical discipline. Jot things down on paper. Over time it will click once you make the decision.
[53:53] Say your affirmations with feeling and we will have an ebook that explains how to create affirmations that work.
[57:37] Patrick's vision is doing a live Hollow Tube show with Kaci and her dad as part of the show.
[58:37] We appreciate all of our listeners and give shout outs. We also hope you like our new website and you can also reach us on social media.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Chicago Art Institute
Van Gogh
Renoir
Picasso
Contrecoup Injury
Episode 17

Quotes:

“Step outside of the golden ring or lift it up until you are in a more powerful position. Once you understand this, you can drop the ring and the gold dust will protect you in the future.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Out of chaos comes potential and redirecting yourself from chaos can lead to your ultimate potential.” Dr. Michael Bays
“The golden ring was what was wrong with life, but now it is turned into something positive.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Out of the things that you don’t want in your life, you will find the things that you do want in your life.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Welcome to the Hollow Tube. We are back. Patrick had a conference in Chicago and Michael also went to a conference in Santa Barbara. Kaci is not with us tonight, but we enjoyed the last episode with her and would love to hear your feedback. Michael and his family went to a pumpkin patch today.
The event that Michael went to was a Bo Eason event in Santa Barbara. He took Kaci to Santa Barbara with him and they both loved Santa Barbara. There were piano’s on the corners, and Kaci and Michael sang karaoke. Michael thought the Bo Eason event was inspiring and Patrick is planning on attending the next one.
Michael shares a lot about the event, and we talk about finding your true story. The story Michael chose was when he started ditching baseball practice because he dreaded having to play. His mother told him that “we don’t quit” and those words have stuck with him throughout his life.
We also talk about becoming an expert and putting in the time and the 10,000 hour rule. Natural innate talent also plays a role when becoming an expert. We also talk about trying different things to find your passion. Unlocking your aptitude is the key. Not everyone will have the genetic predisposition to be a prodigy, but they can become proficient. We talk about this and more.

Topics Discussed Today

[04:21] Last week Michael went to Santa Barbara to a Bo Eason personal story power event. Bo is a former quarterback for the Houston Oilers and his brother Tony was a quarterback for the Patriots. Bo was taken out with a knee injury.
[05:45] Bo began acting and wrote a one-man play. His synopsis was what if he ever played against his brother, but they never played against each other.
[07:06] Bo thought Al Pacino was the greatest stage actor and went to talk to him because to be the best you learn from the best. Al's advice was to be on stage for hours. Repetition is what makes us the best.
[08:17] How Bo's play "Runt of the Litter" is going to be turned into a movie.
[09:22] How Santa Barbara is a great place with a tiny airport and a small town feel. The weather is perfect and the street corners have pianos on them and homeless people play them in the mornings.
[11:16] How every talk needs to start with a personal story and the more vulnerable the better.
[16:57] Finding your one true statement or something that was life transforming that probably happened when you were a kid.
[17:34] At the event they wrote their story from another person's perspective and then presented it.
[21:50] When Michael was 9 years old he walked in the door just as his mom was hanging up the phone. Then she turned and said, "you sit your ass down." Michael's baseball coach had just told his mom that he wasn't going to practice.
[23:40] Michael dreaded playing outfield and the crack of the bat because his vision wasn't that good. One time the ball even hit him on the top of the head. He only batted once during the game.
[25:48] How Michael's mom told Michael that they don't quit. He had to go back and finish and never quitting has stuck with him for the rest of his life.
[31:41] How it takes 10,000 hours to become an expert. Although, innate skill has a role in certain things.
[34:26] Finding what you can be best in and then do the 10,000 hours and 10 years.
[37:33] Finding the perfect combination of mental aptitude, genetic predisposition, and your environment.
[38:10] Just sitting around watching TV or social media won't get us anywhere.
[38:29] Getting up everyday and finding something to be great at. Finding the key to success and a goal. Finding the proper path to take.
[42:10] How everyone who is good at something aspires to be good at something else. Knowing the exact right thing to do.
[45:34] How Tiger Woods changed everything about his already great golf swing and got even better.
[47:27] How it is all about focus and distractions can take you out of your game.
[53:51] If things aren't feeling right we need to make adjustments whether in sports or life. NQR means not quite right.
[55:40] Synchronicity and getting into flow and going into your cocoon and getting back in synchronicity.
[57:54] Patrick's fortress of solitude or office on Bainbridge Island. He got it just how he wanted it, and then he was getting messages that his office was on fire. His office really was on fire.
[01:01:10] His office was ground zero for the fire. He had left a candle lit and it burned through the glass and caught the buffet on fire.
[01:03:01] The firefighters did everything they could to save Patrick's office and his girlfriend Dana was saving residents of the mixed purpose building.
[01:04:58] Everything ended up being OK and no one got hurt, and Patrick's office was insured so he can redo it.
[01:06:32] Servepro is helping to bring Patrick's office back to life. Fires started by candles are really common.
[01:09:36] Dana's words of wisdom - "Always live in the moment."
[01:10:56] Sue used the affirmation challenge to stop smoking. Katy who was shot in Las Vegas is doing better. Your type ones appear at your side. Shout out to Tom.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Bo Eason Personal Story Power Event
Runt of the Litter Bo Eason
Viktor Frankl
Peak: Secrets from the New Science of Expertise
On Writing Stephen King
Michael Jordan
Galileo
Charles Dicken
Leo Tolstoy
William Shakespeare
Tim Tebow
Don Quixote Cervantes
Steve Young
Joe Montana
Tom Brady
Miyamoto Musashi
Tiger Woods
Jack Nicklaus
Tom Dempsey
Servepro

Quotes:

“Sometimes it takes just a little bit of coaching. It can’t always be natural innate ability. ” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The closest thing I ever got to a hit was a foul ball” Dr. Michael Bays
“Sometimes you need to go to someone who has the expertise to take you to the next leve.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“We don’t quit. We keep going until we can’t go on any longer.” Dr. Michael Bays

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We have a special guest today, country western singer Kaci Bays. We have been playing music by Kaci at the end of our recent episodes and the fans have loved it, so we decided to have a special episode where we interview Kaci. Kaci was a backup singer for Mickey Gilley before branching out on her own. Now she performs around the Tucson area. She is also married to Hollow Tube host Dr. Michael Bays.

This is a great episode. Kaci adds fun, humor, and music to the show. She shares how her and Michael first met with some funny stories about Michael playing it extremely cool on their first date. She also shares how she started performing, and how she ended up auditioning for and working with Mickey Gilley. We talk about synchronicities and how pathology in any relationship will show up in six months. Along with more fun and entertaining insights from Kaci.

Topics Discussed Today

[03:49] Kaci thinks The Hollow Tube is great and keeps getting better and better.
[04:09] 21 is the family's lucky number, but it is not their mom's birthday or Michael's address.
[05:25] How Branson is the number one tourist destination in America. Everything that happened to Patrick in Branson revolved around the number 21.
[07:43] Kaci ended up in Branson when her ex-husband got a job singing there in 1992.
[08:32] Kaci's whole family sings and her dad did The Hollow Tube podcast intro. Her parents owned a talent agency. Kaci did commercials and her first paying gig was the sound of music at a dinner theatre in Astoria. She played Marta.
[10:58] Kaci also sings with her sisters that do the backup on some of her music. She got into professional singing when she moved to Branson.
[12:31] She did a cassette in a recording booth for a contest. She didn't win the contest, but it ended up getting her a first job singing in a show.
[13:30] Then she got a job at a theater in Springfield called The Sounds of Branson. After this show, she got the backup job for Mickey Gilley.
[14:50] She worked with Mickey Gilley for 16 years. Her audition was being filmed during a live performance. Fortunately, she became friends with another woman there who taught her all of the backup moves, so she aced the audition.
[19:20] Mickey Gilley had an illness and a shunt was put in, but then he had a fall and was paralyzed for a while. He is doing great now at the age of 81. We listen to Mickey Gilley Candyman.
[24:01] Kaci went to high school in AZ, but her and Michael met in Branson. It was synchronicity and destiny.
[25:02] Kaci's friend's husband was installing surround sound at Michael's house and he set up a blind date for Kaci and Michael.
[26:45] They went on a blind date. Michael really impressed her with all of his dogs, and his fridge with only two beers, and immediately forgetting her name. Then he wanted to take separate cars in case he gets paged. Kaci didn't fall for his games.
[28:20] They went to a bar and Michael sat with his back to Kaci. Then he points out a woman at the bar who was wearing a dated acid washed jacket, and then he says he bought her that outfit. In spite of everything, they hit it off.
[31:01] Dating Michael was kind of like the new Beauty and the Beast movie. But Kaci new there was a softer side under the shell.
[32:39] Michael called her the next day, but then they didn't speak for a month. Then Michael went to her show, and then they started dating.
[34:30] The Bays brothers in Branson were referred to Boogers and Bones. Then Michael would give Kaci a wadded up ball of money to get shots.
[36:08] It took up until last week for Kaci to get in the groove of being with Michael. Just kidding, it was about a year after beginning to date Michael they looked at rings together and then Michael bought the ring Kaci picked out.
[37:46] Then they got engaged on an alumni cruise in January 21st. Another awesome song by Kaci that she recorded for their wedding.
[43:33] They got married and had Parker.
[48:06] Kaci and Michael had their ups and downs, they were even separated for a time. Michael made a life change and had a spiritual change that he chose to do on his own.
[52:55] After coming back from Brazil Michael now has compassion, love, and caring. He is still growing and evolving.
[54:41] Michael's best qualities are the advice he gives people and what he has learned in all of these journeys that he has been on. He is always trying to help people. He is amazing.
[56:17] They are doing the podcast for themselves, but it is in the hope of benefiting other people.
[56:49] Patrick has impacted Michael by setting an example for Michael becoming a very well respected physician.
[58:31] Patrick can sing like Johnny Cash and/or Elvis. He sang in front of a group for the first time.
[59:13] How the best days of your life just keep getting better.
[01:01:40] Kaci wants her granddaughter to remember how important family is and to never let go of family.
[01:03:57] Kaci wants her type ones around her. The people who love her unconditionally.
[01:05:10] Kaci gives a shout out to her friend Carla.
[01:05:51] Humble and Kind by Tim McGraw

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Kaci Bays
Urban Cowboy
Beauty and the Beast
Bo Eason
Humble and Kind Tim McGraw

Quotes:

“Pathology rises to the top in less than six months.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“I had to do something to save myself, that ended up saving my marriage.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Michael went to Brazil and when he came back, he had compassion overall in every area.” Kaci Bays

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Our hearts go out to the people affected by the tragic shooting in Las Vegas. We both know people who were affected. We briefly discuss cruelty and resentment and what could go on in the mind of a killer. Then transition to an uplifting letter that a friend of Michael’s received after his father died. This ties everything back to our previous discussion of determinism or free will. We think life is a combination of both.

We also talk about how the media immerses us in every aspect of the recent current events and how it is important to have and develop coping mechanisms for whatever life throws at you. We also talk about the importance of being grounded and going back to the things that are most important to you and remember the importance of those who are closest to you or your type one people. We also discuss breathing, knowing who you are, and more.

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[04:03] Michael has had apprehension all week. He feels the same way he felt after 9/11. Kaci knows Big & Rich, and Michael can't imagine how tragic it would be for the children of parents who may have gone to the concert and may not be coming back.
[07:22] What could have been going on in the mind of the killer? He must have had so much cruelty and resentment that he didn't want people to know why he did what he did.
[09:47] Something may have happened over the last 6 months in his life. He was regularly going on cruises, so it will be interesting to see his itinerary.
[07:22] What could have been going on in the mind of the killer? He must have had so much cruelty and resentment that he didn't want people to know why he did what he did.
[09:47] Something may have happened over the last 6 months in his life. He was regularly going on cruises, so it will be interesting to see his itinerary.
[12:31] Common denominators in mass shootings. Years and years of brooding on the catastrophe of your life. Resentment is an immature reaction.
[15:10] Michael share's an inspiring letter a friend of his received after he lost his father.
[18:18] Determinism and everything being preordained or is free will involved. We believe it is a combination of each thing.
[23:33] How all of the current events are affecting young people. Michael's son had a panic attack that may have been caused by all of the current negative events and the end of the world coming. We all need to develop coping mechanisms for dealing with things in our spheres of perception.
[28:52] How we get bombarded by everything emphasized in the media. Go back to the things that are the most important to you and your type one people. The two points of light at the end of the hollow tube or your think keys.
[32:32] Always go back to the breath. Box breathing. Do this for 4 cycles and everything will calm down. How the universe is going through a cosmological shift.
[34:48] Knowing you are and what you stand for. Now is the time to reconnect because something is going on in the universe.
[41:49] When we leave the world we need to leave a little bit of ourselves. This is the opposite of the skeptic's view.
[42:52] The story of a patient who thought he had cancer and addressing his fears. How what are you afraid of would be a great residence interview question.
[45:09] Michael shares his fears and concerns for himself and his family in the future.
[45:52] Medical school syndrome and thinking you have all of the symptoms that you are learning about.
[47:10] Patrick shares an epiphany he had while in the hospital that made him decide to become a doctor. He also thought he had MS and took out a life insurance policy in his parent's name.
[51:47] How our thoughts towards anything can make us sick. Don't build up toxins or hold on to grief. We talk about the 5 stages of grief: denial, anger, bargaining, depression, acceptance. You go back and forth and don't stay on a stage for long.
[53:54] How Basil Brave Heart treats grieving people with a rock. He also has another ceremony with tobacco and a whistle. The way to heal from grief is through ritual and ceremony. The wiping of the tears ceremony.

Links and Resources:
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Cain and Abel: The Hostile Brothers Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
Carl Jung
Basil Brave Heart
Stephen Hawking
Edwin Hubble
Box Breathing
A Ghost Story
On Death & Dying

Quotes:
“Decisions that we make can make things fated for us either better or worse.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Where focus goes energy flows.” Dr. Michael Bays
“People resent other people who are successful because it makes them feel better to put those people down.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The last thing we want to think about when our lives aren’t going well is that we need to take responsibility and clean up our acts.” Dr. Michael Bays

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On last week’s episode, Michael shared a personal story that led to an introspective week. He has been getting positive feedback from listeners about that episode. We kick off today’s show, talking about some of the recent disasters including active volcanoes around the world and the problems in Puerto Rico. We also talk about the Jones act and how President Trump waived it.

We talk about how most people don’t care about your problems because they have their own problems. There is no point in worrying about what people think, unless they are your type ones. The type ones are the only people that matter. These are the people closest to you and who you can count on. We talk about healing ourselves, regret, the idea of the broken hero, wounded child, and shadow.

We also talk about head injuries and football and the art and science of medicine. There are good and bad doctors just like there are good and bad anything else. It’s a good idea to question everything and not trust people just because they are an authority figure. Always question and be discerning and if things seem off, excuse yourself and find someone else. We talk about all of this and more.

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[06:18] Michael's introspective week and how people never change. Patrick talks about how within six months, you will see a person's true self.
[07:49] Stepping back and hovering over your body and looking at yourself.
[08:15] Patrick's son Brandon is fine and they have been able to go back to Mexico City.
[09:46] How earthquakes and shifts in the tectonic plates can cause volcano eruptions. There is also a volcano with activity in Bali.
[11:04] Patrick shares a story about going to the monkey forest in Ubud in Bali.
[12:09] How the situation in Puerto Rico is getting more desperate.
[13:46] President Trump waived the Jones Act so ships who fly other than US flags can deliver goods to Puerto Rico.
[17:28] Michael shares a story about visiting his dad this week which sparked a story when Michael was first married. He came home and discovered his wife went to Montana to find herself, but she really ran off with a guy from the coffee shop.
[00:20:28] How at the time this seemed like the end of the world for Michael. Patrick sat him down and told him not to care about what other people thought.
[00:21:18] How you can type your type one people on your hands and feet. Type two people don't care about your problems because they have their own problems. The opinions of your type ones are the only ones that matter.
[22:24] On Michael's visit with his dad, his dad gave him a wedding picture of Michael and his former spouse.
[24:46] How we need to heal ourselves. Imagine yourself floating in a hollow crystal tube that has black spots that represent pain. As we heal the blackness and imperfections go out and smooth over.
[26:28] Michael has a soft spot for homeless people with dogs. He got off the freeway exit and bought a sandwich for a homeless guy he saw, and the experience was different than he expected it would.
[31:50] One of Michael and Patrick's dad's regrets was not helping out a man and boy who were in need near the border.
[33:32] The 40-day affirmation challenge is still going. Michael shares his affirmation and how it applies to the recent synchronicities that keep happening.
[35:11] The hero's journey. How a hero finds a way to overcome and persevere which allows people to identify with the hero.
[36:52] The idea of the shadow and the broken hero. The perfect life isn't interesting.
[37:48] The idea of the wounded child and looking at your past.
[39:34] How love and nurture are so important in the early stages.
[41:12] How dangerous football is especially to kids under 12 and head injuries that lead to cognitive functions. Traumatic head injuries.
[45:36] How there are good and bad doctors, just like there are good and bad anything. Question everything. Stop and excuse if yourself if you don't think things are going well.
[50:53] How calm and humble Ben Carson is along with being a meticulous surgeon.
[54:33] Night terrors and how Patrick would dream that someone was going to kill him. These lasted for about 10 years and then went away. Michael had them as a little kid.
[01:00:40] Showing someone you care about them and doing things for them and with them to make the connection stronger.
[01:04:08] A song by Kaci Bays and Mike Nichols

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Mount Agung
Ubud Monkey Forest
Episode 20 Who Will You Be When the Storm Comes?
Carl Jung
Self Authoring Suite
Age of first exposure to American football and long-term neuropsychiatric and cognitive outcomes
Ben Carson
Frankenstein by Mary Shelley
KaciBays.com

Quotes:

“I don’t think anyone can change unless they have the ability for introspection and self reflection.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Never give your power away to anybody who claims to have some special knowledge or authority.” Dr. Michael Bays
“People don’t care about your problems in general.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“If I see homeless people with dogs, I almost always stop because they are not only trying to take of themselves but the dog too.” Dr. Michael Bays

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There have been so many catastrophes and natural disasters lately that we wanted to continue our topic of who will you be when the storm comes. The Country is still reeling from Harvey and Irma, and we have links below if you want to donate to charities to help people and animals still struggling with the aftermath. Our hearts go out to the people who live on the islands that were devastated by the hurricanes. We are especially concerned about Puerto Rico and how the people will survive with no power, water, or food.

We are also concerned about the recent earthquakes in Mexico City. This disaster hit home with Patrick because his son was actually there when the earthquake happened. Fortunately, he is fine and Patrick shares how he helped his son find a safe place to stay. We talk about being prepared when disasters strike and how true leaders emerge in the worst of times. We also take a walk through the jungle as Michael shares a story of his transformative journey on his first trip to Brazil. This is something he doesn’t normally talk about, but he bares it all and shares his story. This is a special episode, and we hope you enjoy it.

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[02:34] There have been several national disasters recently. The island of Puerto Rico may be without power for months or more.
[04:24] Patrick's son Brandon was in Mexico City during the earthquake. He is safe, but the earthquake was really scary. Huge skyscrapers were falling. The best plan of action was to get out of town.
[07:27] Patrick shares how he helped his son find a new place to stay and get out of town. He and his girlfriend had to leave with just the clothes on their backs.
[09:11] How the safe place is where you feel with your intuition is safe.
[12:40] How time is the most important thing when people are buried in debris. The longer they are buried the less chance of survival.
[13:52] How Michael went through a ceremony with a shaman where he had apocalyptic visions. It felt like whatever was coming was so close.
[16:07] Practical solutions to prepare for a flood. Get your home in order. Have a generator, food, and water. Get to know your neighbors and find people who know how to do things. Know where to go and have bugout bag and cash. Extra medicine and copies of records and pet supplies and personal protection.
[21:56] Jordan B. Peterson and the psychology of the flood and how organisms adapt to their environments.
[22:55] How humans don't know what is going to happen, but we write stories about survival and the hero's journey.
[23:49] How heroes have a sense of humility and universal qualities that we aspire to.
[26:53] The importance of having a plan and an escape route when you are in a bad situation. How it is nice to have someone rationale to help you find what to do.
[27:47] How it is important to know your truth and what you stand for.
[29:01] How people can become desensitized when exposed to objectionable things over and over.
[30:23] How anarchy can set in when the social system breaks down.
[35:18] Michael went to Brazil when he was at his wit's end. He started meditating and went to a workshop in Brazil and met a shaman. Awesome story about how people aren't always what you think they are. Along with his awakening “hollow tube” experience.
[46:32] How regret can be like a stain on your soul. Getting past regret is never going back to what you regret again.
[51:11] If you are doing something wrong in your life, the first thing to do is to just stop doing that. Anything in the right direction is better than nothing at all.
[55:24] Even if you go down a dark pathway things can get so much better with a vision of looking towards the future and having love around you. With this vision, you can get through anything.
[57:30] How we can't hold on to the past. We have to keep moving on and things will be better in the future.
[01:00:54] We got a message from our mystery Jersey UK listener, Jane, and we give her a shout out. A live broadcast from Jersey may be in the works.
[01:06:11] The affirmation challenge is still going on. Keep doing your challenges. Give it a try and stick with it.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
American Red Cross
Catholic Charities
The Humane Society of the United States
ASPCA
The Psychology of the Flood Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
Charles Darwin
The Iliead
Viktor Frankl
Close Encounters of the Third Kind
Carl Jung
Dalai Lama
Shawshank Redemption
Kaci Bays

Quotes:

“You really see the best of people in times of catastrophes and natural disasters.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“You never know when something is going to come along in your life that is a natural disaster or a personal apocalypse that we create for ourselves. ” Dr. Michael Bays
“The purpose of the Hollow Tube is to provide guidance and think keys that people can use when they are in troubling situations.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“We need to ask am I actively doing things to make my life better or actively doing things to destroy my life.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Today’s show is going to be about who will you be when the big storm comes. When something catastrophic happens how will you handle it and what type of person will you be on the other side. Before diving into this topic, Patrick and Michael catch up and then start talking about the importance of making incremental changes over time to achieve a really big goal. They also talk about the affirmation challenge and Patrick shares insights about think keys.

We also discuss how to up your game by having a coach and how imitation can lead to improving and actually rewiring your brain to become better. We also help our niece Brooke out with some advice about having a plan and visualizing the future to get what she wants. We also discuss free will and the importance of asking what we are here to do. We talk about the hurricanes and weather changes, and Patrick shares a story about the earthquakes and volcanic eruption he witnessed when stationed in the Philippines.

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[04:56] Patrick's weekend and how all of the fire and red has cleared up in Seattle. Then when he flew to Spokane everything was dark from the fires. The smoke was really bad.
[06:43] Michael and his family had a baby themed birthday celebration for his wife Kaci.
[07:36] The surprise of the surprise dance lessons and the quest for dancing shoes.
[09:59] Michael's son Parker is going to throw shotput and discus. If you want to level up, you need to find a coach.
[11:57] Making small adjustments, keep showing up, and repetition is the key in the hollow tube.
[13:42] Michael and crew went to see It, and it was a good movie.
[15:25] How Michael and Patrick went exploring when they were kids.
[17:08] The affirmation challenge is still going on. Melissa put a post on the Facebook page she is not a victim or a survivor.
[18:03] Think keys are something that you think about when you are uncomfortable in a situation. The three types of people and all of your energy going to type ones.
[20:45] Being a survivor and having that in your bank account and being a warrior that can accomplish anything.
[21:37] Michael's affirmation that he has been working with and the phases he has gone through. Now he is in the teaching or learning phase.
[25:00] How people follow actions and they listen to words. Be action oriented to have people follow you.
[25:40] How we learn good or bad habits from imitating other people. If you watch someone and imitate them, you will rewire the neurons in your brain.
[27:14] Working out with people who are better than you or playing up.
[28:26] How it takes 10 years to become an expert doing something repetitively over time.
[30:30] Listener question from Michael and Patrick's niece. She wants to move to California and find her dream job. She wants independence in all aspects of her life.
[31:45] How it is important to have a plan and visualize how you want your life to be in the future. Working for someone else isn't independence. Celebrity stylist would be an independent option, but clothing buyer may be safer.
[34:58] The concentric circle think key. Ripples where a stone lands are greater. To get established she needs to be near the bullseye.
[37:14] The importance of being goal oriented with a crystallized vision and write it down.
[37:48] Taking a breath and starting from a place of gratitude and finding a mentor.
[40:17] Free will and the decision tree and making decisions based on independent thought.
[42:38] How people respect older doctors because they seem wiser and have experience.
[43:37] How hurricanes are getting more intense, but there are less of the severe storms. Our interaction with the environment is precarious.
[46:56] Patrick was in an earthquake in the Philippines when he was a naval doctor. The earthquake moved the fault line under a volcano that erupted.
[52:05] Volcanoes and pyroclastic volcanoes and how Patrick was there when the volcano erupted and there were volcanic earthquakes. The lush green jungle turned into a gray sludge.
[56:00] How there were monkeys walking hand in hand to the village below after the volcanic eruption.
[57:34] Evacuating 30,000 people after the volcano because there was no power and no water. Using ships from the Gulf War.
[01:05:57] The velvet voice of Kaci Bays.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Fyodor Dostoyevsky
Edwards Deming
It
Malcolm Gladwell
Machiavelli
Does Harvey Represent a New Normal for Hurricanes?
Kaci Bays

Quotes:

“Make small incremental changes for outstanding results down the road.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Sooner or later, something is going to come along that makes us feel punched in the gut.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Anyone who has gone through a traumatic ordeal is a survivor.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Don’t get hooked on your story to keep yourself chained to the past.” Dr. Michael Bays

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This has been a week of synchronicities for both of us. We have come to the same or similar realizations independently of each other. Michael had a wonderful weekend with his family and even a touching moment where he felt the presence of his mother’s spirit. It was a week of synchronicities and symbolism for him. Patrick also experienced synchronicities with his week he called a “revelation of red” with the red moon, ash and embers from the red wildfires, and a reminder of a felled redwood.

We also discuss free will and determinism. Albert Einstein believed in determinism which means that things that happen in life are preordained. We are both in the free will camp, but it is up to everyone to determine their own philosophy. We also discuss empathy and becoming desensitized. We also talk about not conforming and actively resisting to avoid possibly going down a slippery slope of compliance. We finish up with deciding who you are and heading down the right path and always trusting your instincts.

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[04:32] Michael had a fantastic Labor Day weekend with a family trip to Phoenix. He also had the best old fashioned he had ever had.
[07:18] They had such a touching moment at the table with the glow of love and being with the new baby and the family. Michael even felt like their mom was with them.
[09:05] Michael also saved a tortoise who was in the middle of the road. Symbolism?
[10:57] King snakes can take down rattlesnakes because they are the king of snakes.
[11:44] If there is a king snake around there are no rattlesnakes.
[12:17] Michael shares a surprise he is going to give his wife.
[15:26] Meaningful coincidences and a week of synchronicities.
[16:33] Patrick's week was a revelation of red. The red moon or corn moon appeared in September, but the harvest moon will appear in October. Wildfire smoke also made the moon red, and they have had so many fires that ash is falling.
[19:56] How the roots of a redwood tree that Patrick took down are huge and need to be removed.
[23:04] Irma the most powerful hurricane recorded. With the fires, ash, and the weather things seem a little out of whack.
[24:01] 40-day affirmation challenge and listener contributions. Send your affirmations on Twitter or our Facebook page. The 3 phases of affirmations. Judgement, awareness, introspection.
[29:55] Imagining what it is like for people who have lost all of their possessions during the hurricane. They are holding themselves with dignity and compassion as they help their neighbors.
[31:59] Free will and the ability to choose between actions unimpeded.
[32:52] Einstein's deterministic philosophy.
[33:57] The principles of cause and effect and karma. How Einstein was a determinist.
[40:26] How the Alchemist was based on free will more than determinism.
[42:21] Stepping back and trusting the process of life.
[44:10] New news: how cannabis may help prevent brain aging for older people or at least mice. But it is bad for the memories of younger people or mice.
[46:52] Surge in marijuana use and cell phone use in 2012.
[47:41] How things got out of hand in the Prison experiment, and they had to stop early because students actually assumed the roles of prisoners and guards.
[50:02] Empathising and having compassion as opposed to being desensitized.
[54:53] The Milgram Experiment and participants continuing to increase the voltage of the shock. Getting desensitized and moving up to the next thing.
[58:34] Being contrary and not going down the slippery slope.
[01:03:12] Living your ethos and keeping the three types of people in mind.
[01:05:33] Arts and Entertainment: The Keepers on Netflix It makes you wonder why they didn't tell anybody. The importance of trusting your instincts.
[01:08:54] A shout out to Birthday Girl Kaci Bays and a song by Kaci.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Seasons 52
The Alchemist
Basil Brave Heart
Viktor Frankl
Albert Einstein
Baruch Spinoza
Dr. Jordan B. Peterson
A little cannabis every day might keep brain ageing at bay
Zimbardo's Stanford Prison Experiment
The Milgram Experiment
The Keepers
Kaci Bays

Quotes:

“I truly believe in free will, but it’s important for people to decide their philosophical opinion.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Synchronicities are like the universe telling you that you are on the right track.” Dr. Michael Bays
“I started becoming more aware of when I’m being judgemental to myself or others.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“Go with your instincts, but listen to and feel what the universe is trying to tell you.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Today’s show is about setting boundaries and drawing a line in the sand. It’s about keeping the things that are treasures and not bringing the junk into your life. We share a story about our dad and the things he collected when we were kids. As well as, our mom’s reaction to the collection and the boundaries she set.

Our hearts go out to everyone affected by Hurricane Harvey. Seeing how the devastation has brought people together is amazing. We also have a special place in our hearts for all of the animals affected and all of the amazing people helping them. We challenge everyone to donate and help out.

We also talk about speaking the truth and our plans to grow the podcast. We review last week’s affirmations from our listeners, and we revise our own affirmations a bit. Patrick even shares his goal formula of visualize, analyze, and achieve. Michael shares the rules for the 40-day and 40-night affirmation challenge and the 6 steps to saying an affirmation. We are glad you are here, and we hope you enjoy the show.

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[05:40] How the hurricane in Texas has been bringing out the best in people. Especially, the people who are out there rescuing the animals, and a challenge to donate.
[07:32] How Harvey has been the worst storm in 1000 years. Climate and weather conditions are changing and becoming more intense.
[08:14] How all of your material possessions can be done in a matter of days.
[09:00] How the eclipse affects the tides, and how the intensity of the eclipse is beginning to wane.
[09:38] Michael came home and found a big lost dog in his laundry room after he had just posted about how to donate to animals affected by Harvey.
[11:11] Patrick's 3-hour periodontal cleaning and the joy's of nitrous.
[16:55] Speaking the truth and share what is coming from our hearts.
[17:40] Michael's super secret meditation society and a deep vision back to his childhood and forward to things he wants to manifest in the future.
[19:31] Michael's intention of looking at the eclipse and all of the things that he wants to do, along with wanting the podcast to do well. Watch out, Joe Rogan.
[20:50] As the truth resonates with people, they will share it.
[24:06] The scientific method and its origins. It all starts with an observation. State a problem. Form an hypothesis. Conduct experiment, analyze data, draw a conclusion.
[25:42] Using the scientific method to test The Hollow Tube.
[27:04] The Hollow Tube experiment to promote the podcast.
[28:58] A story about football dads watching all of the practices.
[31:53] Over enthusiasm and crushing your child's spirit.
[34:40] How our kids teach us how to be parents.
[35:58] Affirmations in present tense and feeling the feeling of getting what you want.
[38:13] Michael's new affirmation.
[39:00] How Patrick was aware of affirmations even as a kid.
[41:19] Setting a goal, figuring out how to achieve it, unlocking the secret code, and then doing everything possible.
[42:44] Goal formula: set your goal - visualize, find the secret code - analyze, achieve your goal - realize.
[45:07] How affirmations need to be goal driven.
[46:42] The rules for the 40-day 40-night affirmation challenge. They need to be clear, concise, compelling, and positive. Present tense and challenging and a little bit uncomfortable. Dig deep. Take baby steps. Write it down in colored ink.
[48:46] 6 steps: ground yourself, hands over year heart, think of two things you are grateful for, say it out loud either 4 or 7 times, Twice a day morning and evening, and for 40-days and 40-nights in a row.
[53:05] Go outside. Face the rising sun. The rising sun represents new beginnings. Create a sacred circle out of salt or rocks or anything. The circle can even represent the hollow tube. Take off your shoes or even all of your clothes. You can even smudge the area with sage. Keep it secret. Write things down at the beginning, middle, and end.
[56:50] Listener questions: Situational awareness, worry, and thoughts create our circumstances. Worry isn't healthy, but prudence is a survival trait. Find the middle ground between danger and mindlessness. Confidence.
[01:01:00] Worst Game of Thrones Podcast Recap Ever: The end of Game of Thrones Season 7.
[01:05:13] A visit from Grandpappy.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
The Hollow Tube Facebook Page
Shannon L. Alder
Where to Donate to Harvey Victims (and How to Avoid Scams)
American Red Cross
AmeriCares
Catholic Charities
Humane Society
ASPCA
Petco Foundation
RedRover
Best Friends Animal Society
Here's how you can help animals affected by Hurricane Harvey
The Sanctuary
The Alchemist
Joe Rogan
The Scientific Method
Last Chance U
Stephanie Brooks Fitness
Rishika Jain
Ozark

Quotes:

“When in doubt say nothing. When you speak say something worthy to be heard.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“You’ve got to prepare yourself to be the calm at the center of the storm.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Affirmations were based on the attainment of goals that were tangible.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“No success if possible for me without my family.” Dr. Michael Bays
“Be aware of what you say, people are listening.” Dean Taraborelli

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Everything is on our side to help us achieve our life’s purpose. The stage has already been set, but the closer we get the more we are tested. Through inner strength and our decisions, we have the power to shape our destiny. We have a great episode planned for you today. We are excited because the podcast is starting to pick up steam, and Michael might even channel the spirit of Grandpappy.

We also talk about the importance and significance of the sun and how all life begins and ends with it. If you stop and think about the eclipse, it was really an awe inspiring event that is meaningful if we make it meaningful. Michael also shares how he encouraged his friends and family to practice gratitude and learned that his lesson may be to have compassion.

We also share some affirmations sent to us by listeners from last week’s affirmation challenge. We also share our own affirmations and issue a new 40-day affirmation challenge. Write down your affirmation and then say it once in the morning and once at night for 40 days and let us know how it went. We also talk about meditation, compassion, gamma waves, and more.

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[03:14] We are excited tonight. The podcast is beginning to pick up steam. We have even gotten requests to hear more from Grandpappy.
[06:27] Patrick was left without eclipse glasses, but he looked at the eclipse through frosted glass and had a perfect view of the eclipse in the shadow of the space needle.
[06:38] How the sun is the most critical element of our solar system. It is awe inspiring to see it turn black for even a moment.
[08:56] The sun started life on Earth and it will extinguish it just the way it started.
[09:32] Our mineral elements go into the Earth after we die, but when the sun explodes everything on the Earth will go into it, and we will all become a part of new life.
[10:26] We are powerless to control it but appreciative of the eclipse and being able to observe it.
[10:56] Michael had an intense week of multiple synchronicities.
[11:53] Michael encountered an extremely angry lady in the grocery store. Symbolically, he represented every obstacle she had ever experienced in her life.
[13:59] How the eclipse must have represented having compassion, and how Micheal put out his intentions for this eclipse because it is meaningful if you make it meaningful.
[20:12] This was also a big week of introspection for Michael and getting rid of old destructive behaviors. He wants to be the guy who walks the walk not just talks the talk. [21:46] Patrick shares awesome quotes by Descartes. About thinking and self-awareness.
[24:32] We share a couple of awesome affirmations from our affirmation contest.
[25:29] Putting your hand over year heart while saying your affirmation and thinking of some things you are grateful for.
[29:57] Michaels shares his affirmations and when he wrote down his best one two owls landed near his house.
[31:32] Patrick shares his affirmation. Which he is carrying in his pocket. His affirmation is longer than most, but it is about making choices, self-awareness and free will.
[34:12] I am focused on my free will is a short version of Patrick's affirmation.
[35:53] The 40-day affirmation challenge - say your affirmation every morning and night for 40 days.
[37:51] We talk about Last Chance U on Netflix.
[44:25] Time for the Worst Game of Thrones Recap Podcast Ever.
[47:54] A 12-year study of meditation and a high level of gamma waves. It helps rewire your brain and make you happy and smart.
[49:46] Central mediated pain theory and neuroplastic changes in the brain that make us more susceptible to pain.
[51:24] Using a metronome to meditate.
[51:52] Gratitude and holding the feeling of gratitude that helps us make feelings of compassion. Compassion is the key to happiness.
[53:18] Achieving happiness and not thinking about ourselves all the time.
[01:04:04] A visit from Grandpappy.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
Pema Chodron
Dr. Weil
The Marriage of the Sun and the Moon
Rene Descartes
The Power of Positive Thinking
Sonic Boom Alarm Clock
Last Chance U
Study About Meditation and Gamma Waves
Calm
Headspace
Tony Robbins Morning Primer
The Alchemist
Marcus Aurelius

Quotes:

“We have the ability to make choices freely, I want to focus on my free will.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“If life is a reflection of ourselves, why do I keep running into assholes?” Dr. Michael Bays
“You can’t recognize a sign without looking for it and seeing what is around in your peripheral vision.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“I put out my intention to the universe of what I am grateful for during the eclipse.” Dr. Michael Bays

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This has been an exciting week for Michael. His very first granddaughter was born on August 14th, 2017 and her name is Lincoln Lily. Michael is now a grandpa. Today’s conversation kicks off with nicknames for grandparents and quickly morphs into a discussion about placentas. Along with a story about an owl and hawk sighting by Michael.

Things quickly progress to soul groups and societies and living in close proximity of extended family and respect for elders. Then we discuss the solar eclipse before moving on to the Worst Game of Thrones Podcast ever. We also discuss telomeres and how long healthy telomeres prevent premature aging. Our thoughts can affect our telomere health, especially negative thoughts like anger, pessimism, and unhealthy rumination.

We also talk about the importance of being present in the moment and how controlling our thought processes is like taking off the blinders and seeing what is possible. The way we think really allows possibilities from staying young and healthy to understanding what is possible. When negative thought processes creep in, just take a step back and breathe and think about peace with no judgement.

We also talk about affirmations, and we issue a challenge to each other and to all of you to come up with an affirmation for next week. Send us your affirmation on Facebook, Twitter, or Instagram.

Topics Discussed Today

[05:22] When Michael came home from visiting Lincoln he discovered an owl in a tree that night. In the morning, there was a hawk in the same tree.
[08:15] “Belief like fear or love is forced to be understood...yesterday I believed I would never have done what I did today.” Michael reads an inspiring quote from Cloud Atlas.
[11:05] Loving an adopted child and the amount of love you have had and are able to give. Emotional depth.
[12:29] Soul groups and how are bodies reside in our internal souls and the souls interact or know each other. An instant connection could be part of a soul group.
[14:22] How society has gone from extended family to concentrated families.
[15:07] How elderly people are revered in Asian cultures and other countries.
[15:44] Mayans and the total eclipse. Eclipses occur every two years. It is just the proximity to America that makes this one special.
[18:15] Michael and his crystal that he uses for ceremonies during a full moon. If it is meaningful to him, then it is meaningful.
[20:31] The Worst Game of Thrones Podcast recap The suicide squad and catching a white walker. Rumours about Sir Jorah and Brannon Stark. Daenerys and Jon Snow. The children of the forest.
[26:42] Francis Crick was not on LSD when he discovered the helix structure of DNA.
[28:24] The stoned ape theory and following animals and finding mushrooms. Disregarded by science. The history and evolution of language.
[30:14] Conflation of theories and the true answer is somewhere in between.
[30:51] There is no scientific evidence of the origins of spoken language.
[32:21] How Amy Wheeler posted a picture of twin sisters who were 105 years old but looked 70. The picture will be on social media.
[33:40] How telomeres control ageing. Having long healthy telomeres keeps you young and prevents ageing.
[34:13] The way you think can affect your telomere health. Thoughts like hostility and anger have a negative effect on your telomeres and your cells and age.
[35:31] Pessimism also has a negative effect on telomeres.
[37:33] Rumination and rehashing negative things and problems. This is different than reflection or looking at things objectively. [40:13] Stress hormones and cortisol stick around when we ruminate.
[40:43] Thought suppression is also bad for telomere health.
[41:26] Thought suppression and pushing things away.
[42:42] How thoughts and feelings boil down to not being loved. The most basic element.
[44:03] Spending the day thinking about something you would rather be doing rather than being present is also a negative thought process for telomere health.
[46:05] How Patrick was given 12,000 pages of records to review. That is 4 feet of records. He put in massive time and effort into the preparation. Then they didn't use him.
[51:58] How thought patterns can take over our mind. Being more aware of our thoughts takes off the blinders so that we can see what is possible.
[53:34] When ruminating take a step back and don't put any judgement on it. Keep repeating the process until it works. Changing your physiological state can also help.
[55:34] Happiness and having a long life and tripping on those long telomeres.
[57:22] Smile and don't take yourself too seriously. It's sometimes hard to be positive, but it is something to strive for.
[58:49] Affirmations an incantation and casting a spell of what you want to achieve. A command to your subconscious. Examples of affirmations.
[01:00:13] Doing affirmations in a way that they work. They need to be realistic.
[01:01:28] Reasons why affirmations don't work. Just going through the motions and not feeling what you are saying.
[01:03:12] Conjuring the emotion that is associated with that affirmation. Picking one and sticking with it.
[01:04:41] How gratitude is an affirmation for life.
[01:05:45] Having a regular time to practice your affirmations. Warming your words before you say them.
[01:08:04] Not wanting an affirmation to be true will also make it not work. So will feeling like you are lying to yourself.
[01:09:06] Affirmations have to be believable and compelling.
[01:10:39] Keeping it simple and remembering your why. A consistent vision for your future that incites emotion or feeling. It also has to be present tense.
[01:15:32] Positive affirmations need to outnumber negative thoughts.
[01:17:08] Next week's mission = affirmations.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
Cloud Atlas
The Wachowskis
V for Vendetta
Speed Racer
Jupiter Ascending
The Matrix
It Takes a Village
Neil deGrasse Tyson
Andrew Weil
Apocalypto
Francis Crick
Terence McKenna
Could your thoughts make you age faster?
The Telomere Effect
Elizabeth Blackburn
Salk Institute
Elissa Epel
Aging, Metabolism and Emotion Center
Matt Prater
Man’s Search for Meaning
Jon Kabat-Zinn
Dalai Lama
Mother Teresa
Pope John Paul II
Pete Carroll
Miyamoto Musashi
Muhammad Ali
I’m OK--You're OK
The Secrets of the Lost Mode of Prayer
The Secret
Matthew.Goldstein@USBank.com
MONEY Master the Game

Quotes:

“The more theories there are on something, the less likely they will be precise.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“It’s special if you feel like it is going to be special.” Dr. Michael Bays
“My calling card is preparation and knowing the information.” Dr. Patrick Bays
“The things you see happening in your life are a reflection of the things you put out.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Welcome to episode 14. Yesterday, was Patrick’s birthday. He started the day working out. He also went to the gym later in the day and did a 235 pound lift on the Smith machine. So, he still has something left in the tank. He is grateful for his health, and that he can offer value to people, and that he still has the ability to wield a scalpel. He was also surprised to find the best Manhattan he had ever had at a restaurant last night. The bartender even got a $20 tip. Twice.

We also talk about life beginning at 52, and what would be the best age to live to. We also have a tip about situational awareness and airplanes along with how people seem to get treated better at airports and restaurants when they are dressed nice. After the worst Game of Thrones recap ever, we talk about genius and intuition and how the two complement each other. Then we touch on expanding intuition, being in nature, and the Hollow Tube. Along with disturbing changes and social pressure put on kids with social media and constant smartphone usage.

Topics Discussed Today

[06:33] How Patricks birthday included working out and the best Manhattans he has ever had.
[07:35] Ted Williams frozen head at a cryogenics lab in Phoenix.
[08:47] The Mayan calendar. Does life begin at 52?
[10:42] How Michael wants to be a wise old elder wearing a loin cloth.
[11:57] Amy Wheeler and situational awareness on planes and counting rows between you and the exit in case the plane is filled with smoke.
[12:50] How you get treated better by being well-dressed at the airport.
[15:14] Game of Thrones worst podcast ever recap.
[17:24] The more you own and the more it weighs you down.
[19:04] The power of intuition and expanding intuition. It is important for leadership and decision making.
[19:51] How Galileo was a genius, but Isaac Newton was a genius with intuition.
[20:59] Watson and Crick worked out the 3D structure of DNA by watching flames in a fireplace. Intuition by looking at the flames inspired him to figure out the helical structure.
[23:31] The Hollow Tube and coming into contact with your intuition as inspired by nature. Especially, first thing in the morning.
[24:43] Hanbleceya going up on a mountain or a vision quest. Not eating or drinking for 4 sacred days.
[28:05] Next summer Michael will be a helper at a Sundance. Once you do it once you have to do it 4 times, so it is a big commitment. Putting yourself through that physical ordeal carries you to the next level.
[29:45] Patrick had to learn the Mass in Latin as an altar boy. He and his friends also attempted to do penance by walking in the desert without shoes.
[33:21] The generation that grew up with smartphones. Something happened in 2012 when everyone had smart phones. 2012 was also the end of the Mayan calendar.
[35:55] A big spike in the incidence of suicide. These kids spend too much time in their rooms on their phones instead of being with people.
[37:50] Telling your kids to put the phone down.
[40:09] Have other advanced life forms found the answers to assimilating technology.
[40:59] Families that camp have the best family bonds.
[41:48] Michael wants to go on a long 100-mile hike with his son. A guided hike with camps with cooks.
[43:00] Language, physiology, and focus shape everything we do. We are what we think.
[45:17] The more theories there are the less we know about something.
[46:41] The stoned ape theory.
[46:52] Our internal dialogues and what we say to ourselves and countering the negative.
[52:27] How the first person who loses their composure loses. Once you have raised your tone you have lost the debate.
[54:00] Not taking things personally and being a character that never gets upset or angry. Always maintain your composure and integrity and stay calm.
[59:57] If you speak when you are angry, you will make the best speech that you will regret.

Links and Resources:

Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook
Buena Vista Cafe San Francisco
Metropolitan Grill Seattle
InnSaei The Power of Intuition
The Discovery of DNA
Basil Brave Heart
Have Smartphones Destroyed a Generation?
Rita Mae Brown
1866 Ban on Evolution of Language
Rumi Quotes

Quotes:

“On every birthday, I want to make sure that I have something left in the tank.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“I feel like I’m just getting things figured out.” Dr. Michael Bays

“To be a true genius that’s transformative, you need the firepower and the intuition.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“Intuition enables you to subconsciously process all of the data coming your way.” Dr. Michael Bays

“One of the greatest things a person can do is try to protect the life of another person.” Basil Brave Heart

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Welcome to episode 13 of The Hollow Tube podcast with Dr. Michael Bays and Dr. Patrick Bays. On today’s show, we kick things off with Patrick’s excitement about the Elio three wheeled vehicle. This would be the perfect vehicle for a commuter in Seattle because it is enclosed and offers protection from the rain, and one axle three wheeled vehicles get to board the ferry first. We also discuss using a car as a makeshift office and benefits of having Wi-Fi and the pros and cons of crowdsourcing.

We then discuss the new Game of Thrones episode and a possible spoiler about Sam. We talk about the benefits of high-intensity interval training or HIIT workouts, and how they can benefit mitochondrial and skeletal muscle growth. Especially, as we age. We briefly discuss how MDMA may be recategorized to become a legal way to treat PTSD and the categories of drugs. Then we move on to movies that were fun or inspirational, and how changing your physical body can change your emotions and mood.

We also discuss streaks and the tension that can be created by the process. Marketers use many tricks to get us to buy things that we don’t necessarily need. We need to be on guard for possible tricks and manipulation. We talk about calming and simplifying our minds. We also discuss intuition and listening to our intuition. Patrick shares an experience where he was able to step outside of himself, and Michael shares a story from South America where he made a decision based on his intuition and ended up not getting robbed. We talk about this and listening to and using the subtle cues in life, quieting our minds and more.

Topics Discussed Today

[03:34] The three wheeled Elio commuter vehicle. An advantage of using this in Seattle, where it rains a lot, is that it is enclosed. Three wheeled vehicles get on the ferry first.
[07:56] Leaving your car parked in Bainbridge and walking onto the ferry. Having a car as an accessory office.
[08:45] Advantages of having Wi-Fi in your car and integrated audio.
[09:24] Risks of crowdfunding and how sometimes if the product is not produced the deposits could be lost.
[10:17] Revolutionizing the way people drive while conserving energy.
[10:56] Watching Game of Thrones twice, and hiring a bouncer to stand outside and prevent interruptions.
[12:04] Possible spoiler that Sam is the author of the entire Game of Thrones legacy.
[13:00] Great idea for a possible spin off and GOT prequel.
[15:22] Being emotionally invested in Game of Thrones.
[15:52] Keeping Game of Thrones real with uncomfortable scenes based on reality.
[16:48] Best way to stay young, healthy, and smart is to keep moving with high-intensity interval training.
[18:01] HIIT research by MacDougall showed that after 12 weeks of training there was an increase in muscle enzymes and mitochondria.
[19:25] Importance of breathing oxygen and ATP and biogenesis which allows us to increase the density and mass of our mitochondria.
[20:12] As we age keeping mitochondrial up is important. HIIT can help. 4-10 sets of 30-second intervals.
[21:57] MDMA may become legal for the treatment of PTSD.
[23:53] Drug categories and how a category 1 drug has hardly ever become a category 3.
[25:53] Drug categories can transition even to an over the counter drug.
[26:51] Neurotransmitters and specific responses.
[27:37] James McAvoy and changing his physical state to change his emotional state
[29:24] Stephen Hawking and The Theory of Everything
[30:07] Physical changes and how they affect our moods and how we feel.
[31:52] Countering gravity, standing up straight, and hot yoga.
[33:07] The beast in Split - "the broken human beings are more evolved."
[33:43] Becoming stronger by coming out of difficult situations.
[34:48] How big technology companies try to find ways to manipulate people who use their apps. Using streaks to keep people interested.
[36:20] People are innately competitive, we are a society of streaks and records.
[37:03] Digging into the reptilian brain and causing tension. Intentionally breaking streaks to not get caught up in it.
[39:29] The main streak that Patrick is concerned about is his heart.
[40:38] Marketers getting someone to do something that is not a need.
[42:06] Going through your hollow tube and finding a balance between resources and things that try to capture your attention.
[42:36] Simplify your mind to use and follow your intuition.
[43:58] Stepping out of your mind and looking objectively and understanding yourself.
[47:46] Being able to perceive the subtle cues that the universe gives you and use your perception.
[51:05] Patrick had a close call with an owl which Michael calls “the messenger of the spirit world.”
[53:23] Michael shares a funny story about Orangetheory when he arrived late and it was completely dark except for low neon lights

Links and Resources:

Elio Motors
Game of Thrones
High-intensity interval training (HIIT)
MDMA
Night Shyamalan
Split
James McAvoy
Stephen Hawking
The Theory of Everything
Unbroken
Nietzsche Quotes
Snapchat
Calm
Orangetheory
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Twitter
Uncle Michael @TheHollowTube on Instagram
Michael Bays on Facebook

Quotes:

“Pulling your body upwards, we have better posture and are able to breath better.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“A two millimeter change in the way you hold your chest can make you feel confident.” Dr. Michael Bays

“The most powerful force known to man is gravity.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“I remind myself to carry myself with a confident posture.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Welcome to episode 12 of the Hollow Tube podcast. Michael is back home after his Seattle trip, and it is time us to catch up. We kick off the show talking about texting and communicating with symbols and move on to the trials and tribulations of flying. We also talk about situational awareness, being a first responder, and diffusion of responsibility.

The conversation visits last week’s discussion of water consumption and how much water people should drink. We also talk about new developments where exercise can help dementia and the dangers of over exercising and rhabdomyolysis. There is a brief Game of Thrones conversation, thus today’s title. We also talk about health benefits of saunas, and more.

We also talk about simplifying our lives and the complexity that people can add. Patrick gives an example that correlates with the terracotta soldiers unearthed in Xi'an, China and how we have type one, type two, and type three people in our lives. We talk about focusing on the important type ones and making the world a better place.

Topics Discussed Today

[03:44] Emoji's, characters, Phoenician alphabet, and the Rosetta Stone.
[05:19] The goal of re-emerging and being at the center of the eye of the hurricane
[05:41] Michael's trip back went really well. He was right behind the curtain or "almost in first class" and they had TSA Precheck.
[07:23] Patrick flies first class because of his fear of the “pannus(a large fold of skin and tissue) attack” when he was stuck in a middle seat without the protection of an arm rest.
[11:29] How there is no point in becoming indignant or frustrated when flying. Just make the best of it.
[12:39] Situational awareness and coming upon an accident it's important to point out a specific person to call 911 or else diffusion of responsibility may happen.
[14:16] When Patrick was an Intern he was at a University of Arizona football game and a guy behind him coded. He had to tell everyone to clear off of the bench before he shocked the patient.
[17:29] Water consumption and drinking 2.2 liters for women and 3 liters for men approximately or check the color of your urine.
[19:18] Too much water can create an electrolyte imbalance and stop your heart.
[20:16] How exercising can help dementia patients and make their hippocampus bigger and help with memory.
[21:03] Any moderate vigorous physical activity 3 times a week.
[21:31] Rhabdomyolysis or high concentration of protein in urine or destruction of muscle from over exercising.
[22:44] Patrick tells a story about rhabdomyolysis. He was in the Philippines during an Earthquake and worked around the clock to save people buried under debris. They had compression syndrome and were developing rhabdomyolysis. They had to amputate to save the patient.
[28:43] Game of Thrones Season 7 episodes 2 and how Sam saves Jorah Moment by debriding the Greyscale.
[31:35] Regular use of saunas can decrease the risk of cardiac death, and it may be good for dementia.
[34:00] Disuse atrophy or being in a cast and not using muscles can cause atrophy.
[35:22] Reusable rockets and the space station and Elon Musk and Jeff Bezos.
[37:41] Simplicity and simplifying your life, including starting to make the bed and looking introspectively at yourself.
[39:01] Most complexity of life involves interaction with individuals.
[40:27] Life size terracotta soldiers in Xian China with different facial expressions patterned after Qin Shi Huang's army. Huang was the first Emperor of China.
[43:37] Other people in the world who you don't know have no impact on your life. Type threes people are people you won't meet and won't meet you.
[00:44:25] Type two people are people you see who have familiar faces. They will just as well stab you in the back as slap you on the back. Don't give them your heart and soul. Reserve some of yourself just in case. We only have so many emotional resources.
[45:45] Terracotta soldiers right next to the Emperor are the type ones. These are the people most important to us. Anyone you would want standing around your death bed.
[50:12] Taking your type one responsibilities seriously and wearing our hearts on our sleeves for our type one people in our lives.
[51:03] Expectation - Observation = Frustration or change your expectation to appreciation or let go of expectations
[52:35] The people we associate with are the people we become.
[55:03] Simplifying every aspect of your life and having a vision for the future.
[57:34] If everybody would focus on type ones the world would be a better place.

Links and Resources:

Elon Musk SpaceX
Jeff Bezos Blue Origin
Games People Play by Eric Berne
I’m OK--You’re OK by Thomas Harris
Books by Wayne Dyer
I Am Legend
Cast Away
Terracotta Army
Tanmeet Sethi, MD
Here & Now with Chad Bays
Follow Uncle Michael on Twitter @HollowTube

Quotes:

“I like to be in the eye of the hurricane in the calm center while everything is swirling around.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“When the crowd is going one way, I tend to go the other way.” Dr. Michael Bays

“Give your mental energy and heart and soul to the people who you are closest with.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“Reach out to the type one people in your life because they are the ones that help you attain your vision.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Welcome to episode 11 of The Hollow Tube Podcast, the podcast that answers the question of what if? Today, Patrick and Michael are both together in Seattle. Michael came out to Seattle with his 16-year-old son, Parker, and this is their last day in Seattle. One of the things they did while in Seattle was go on a trip that Michael planned in a float plane.

A float plane is a plane that lands and takes off on the water. They took off from Lake Union in Seattle and went to Orcas Island in the San Juan Island chain. On the return trip to Lake Union, the water was filled with paddle boarders and kayakers, yet the pilot was able to land on the lake.

They had a great time hanging out together and also spent time on Patrick’s deck feeding the birds and watching wildlife. They also went to Patrick’s office and had a photoshoot with photographer Jenny Jay. She had an infectious high energy, and that is the topic for today’s show. We also talk about having the discipline to focus our energy along with the importance of practicing breathing techniques.

Topics Discussed Today

[02:57] The float plane trip and landing in a lake full of paddle boarders.
[05:11] How nice it was to catch up and see new things. They also saw a bald eagle.
[05:59] How eagles are notorious about invading other birds nests, but crows defend their nests and young.
[06:41] Feeding birds in the morning on Patrick's deck and watching the birds, squirrels, and the ships.
[08:26] How the red squirrels were more aggressive and chased off the gray squirrels.
[09:27] High energy people and low energy people. They did a photoshoot at Patrick's office. Jenny Jay was very energetic. It was infectious energy.
[11:45] How high energy people can have infectious energy. Successful people are high energy.
[12:16] People that move fast and are efficient. Older energetic people seem younger than slower young people.
[13:35] Van Gogh had bouts of depression and mania. He was productive in his manic phase.
[14:22] How manic people are put on lithium.
[14:39] Type A high energy people can be one drink away from getting in a fight with you.
[16:30] Medicating away ADHD and Ritalin. Ritalin is a methamphetamine.
[17:29] The Ritalin has a paradoxical effect on kids. The Ritalin that speeds people up actually slows the kids down.
[18:10] ADHD can be caused by artificial colors in food. Diet and lifestyle or martial arts could help direct the energy.
[19:44] Adderall is used to treat ADHD in adults. Sometimes people become dependent on this stimulant.
[20:38] Our bodies adapt to whatever we put in it. Over time we will need more or a change for substances to be effective.
[22:14] Being woken up by a greater force. The young invincibles and having no inhibitions.
[23:04] As we age, we lose energy and have to do things to make us energetic.
[24:30] Jenny J had listened to all of the podcasts before the photo shoot.
[24:49] Using the journal more to guide the podcast.
[26:02] The challenge of feeling energetic about life when you get older.
[26:42] The ever shortening paperclip chain that countdowns to retirement.
[27:28] The key to retirement is moving into something else that motivates you to get up.
[30:43] How Michael has concentrated focused energy, and he tricks his mind into being motivated. If he has a bad week it's from wasting his energy focusing on the wrong things.
[33:05] How Michael propels himself to keep going by following the light that motivates him.
[34:01] How Michael is the object at rest that tends to remain at rest.
[34:32] To feel energetic we need to maintain health. Michael's work out clothes and music inspire him to go to the gym. Signing up for a class is also a commitment to keep you going.
[36:13] When it comes to working out the main thing is showing up.
[36:55] Strength training and aerobics are super beneficial for people who are aging.
[38:04] How Bruce Lee was consistently seeking wisdom and refining his life.
[39:13] The energy force that Bruce Lee and many other cultures talk about. Allowing the force to take over. The first step is breathing.
[39:50] Michaels deep breath routine in the mornings. The Alpha and Omega.
[41:16] Breathing is one of the few automatic functions that we can also control.
[42:56] Changes in breathing oxygenates your body and calms your mental state.
[43:56] When overwhelmed use the bug spray technique and spray the thought that you are ruminating on and vaporize it.
[45:37] Breathing, the conservation of energy by eliminating negative thoughts, and not feeling like you have to one up people, instead let stuff go. The key to alchemy.
[46:51] Build up and focus your energy on what matters. Train your energy and make it stronger to unleash it where you want it.
[48:37] Making working out a priority and feeling and looking good with infectious energy. Energetic people feed off of other energetic people.
[49:59] Constructive energy and destructing energy.
[50:50] Look for things that might make you lose energy such as being dehydrated or having too much sugar or carbs.
[51:48] How the thing that we love the most is probably our enemy our love for the bad food or thing produces a dopamine surge.
[53:27] Finding the time of day when you have energy and getting your workouts in.
[56:31] The importance of staying hydrated and drinking lemon water in the morning.
[01:00:14] Getting the lymph going by moving around or rebounding.

Links and Resources:

Jenny J Photography
Bruce Lee Podcast
Andrew Weil Breathing Techniques
Wim Hof Breathing Technique
Tony Robbins Breathing Technique
Change Your Brain Change Your Life by Daniel G. Amen
Quotes:

“It doesn’t matter how old you are if you have energy. Energy supersedes age.” Patrick Bays

“It takes a lot of energy to create that alchemy to become successful.” Michael Bays

“A comprehensive holistic approach could be a better option for treating conditions like ADHD.” Patrick Bays

“Every single day of your life start off with breathing thirty deep breaths.” Michael Bays

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Welcome to episode 10 of The Hollow Tube Podcast, the podcast that answers the question of what if? Patrick just returned from dinner at Cafe Nola where they specialize in eggplant parmesan. Which started a discussion about the area and the pub where Patrick and Michael frequent, and how there was an active shooter in that area recently. Things didn’t end well for the shooter, but it kicked off a discussion to always leave yourself an out and have situational awareness. Stay on the peripheral of crowds and know where the exits are. Patrick will even go as far as waiting for the next line of the ferry to be on the front of the line and have an exit point.

We also discuss dealing with the hand we're dealt and living in the world we live in not the world we want to live in. Which leads to current day issues of terrorism and an ideology based on fear or control based on fear. Patrick has studied a lot on the Middle East situation and shares how the best way not to be fooled by “fake news” or fake information is to read many different sources and be discerning when consuming information. Regional news from different sources combined with history really sheds light on the current issues with ISIS and the Middle East. Today’s episode is a really interesting discussion of current issues and more.

Topics Discussed Today

[06:36] Safety of sitting on the back row of a theater. If someone has a weapon and you are close, it is safer to attack. The 5-second rule where you are fighting for your life.
[11:46] Crowd Crossers: People in Seattle often cross the street when the light is red, and tourists will follow without paying attention and come close to getting hit by a car.
[23:00] Dealing with the world as it is. A radical violent ideology based on fear and creating an element of fear. Control by fear.
[24:06] How Osama Bin Laden said, "They will always follow the strong horse." It's easier for terrorists to recruit when they are perceived as strong and winning.
[25:27] Terrorism doctrine based on inflicting as much carnage as possible with everyday things.
[26:04] Not having a caliphate or original control of the Middle East. Establishing a territorial crescent, extending from Lebanon to Iran.
[27:45] If you read a variety of sources, it is impossible to be fooled by "fake news" or fake information. Read enough and you will never be fooled. Analyze information.
[30:59] Everybody is jockeying for territory in the Middle East. It is like a real life Game of Thrones. Russia wants a warm water port in Syria.
[32:32] Trump is a populist. He is not about building other countries. His mission is to eliminate ISIS.
[33:36] Kurd fighters are very well trained and fearless in fighting ISIS. Even the Kurd women are fearless warriors.
[35:16] How we are providing logistics and supplying weapons to the Kurds and Iraqis.
[37:55] Sunnis, Shia and infidels and the definitions and different doctrines.
[40:34] Staying calm and measured in an emergency situation by looking at things as a problem to be solved.
[42:01] How doctors need to calm people and gain their confidence in thirty seconds. The only profession where people allow you to go inside their bodies.
[44:52] Think Key - When in doubt say nothing, do nothing. Observe and take a breath before taking action.
[47:46] Making a choice not to react.
[48:50] Sometimes the best course of action is no action.
[49:51] Practice what if scenarios in your mind and have a plan. Although, you still may need to trust your instincts.
[51:04] Tigers bow after a fight.
[54:27] Michael's mean guy with a beard in a truck story and how he weighed his options and diffused the situation.
[57:14] How energy supersedes age.

Links and Resources:

Cafe Nola

Quotes:

“You have to deal with the world as it is not as what you want it to be.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“People are immediately calmed by your demeanor.” Dr. Michael Bays

“You want to give yourself every chance to live.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“People feed off of the subtle cues we give off.” Dr. Michael Bays

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Welcome to episode 9 of The Hollow Tube Podcast, the podcast that answers the question of what if? Michael has just returned from a week in Ecuador, where life is simpler. Where he was staying, there was no TV, Wi-Fi, or refrigerators. It was similar to camping in a house. Yet, the people were happy living these simple lives.

When he returned home, he struggled with getting back to his normal routine. He had long work days, and found it hard to fit in his fitness routines along with his normal reading and writing. He also felt guilty about not being able to do everything that he had been doing. He really needed to take a week off from most hobbies and chill. This was the catalyst for today’s show about simplicity, momentum, and deloading.

Today, we talk about making life simpler, gaining and losing momentum. Deloading and taking the time to recharge. The demands of being a doctor, and Patrick's memorization techniques that he used for medical school, residency and today. We also talk about the struggle for balance. Mental, physical, economic, and spiritual needs. How relationship issues can be caused by problems with money and more.

Topics Discussed Today [03:36] Michael's active fitness routine and how he needs to get back into his momentum after his trip to Ecuador.
[07:15] How keeping going prevents the momentum from stopping. Type B is one that takes momentum. Type C is someone who just lounges around on the couch.
[08:32] Orangetheory and keeping your heart rate up.
[10:09] Michael dreads his once a week hot yoga class, it kicks his butt.
[11:22] Deloading is used in athletic conditioning, but it is a back-off week or reloading week. To prepare the body for the next phase or increase in training.
[12:03] Deloading for a week helped Michael feel better and gain momentum.
[13:13] The best weeks for Patrick are weeks when a lot of things cancel or settle. He gets paid, even though, the trial was canceled.
[16:17] Patrick's process for preparing for a case.
[16:56] Deep learning or inputting data into the brain so that it can be found in a specific compartment at any given time.
[17:52] How The Memory Book helped Patrick with learning and memorization.
[18:33] Ancient orators transmitted knowledge through talking, they would remember the theories by using terms from their homes.
[20:21] Using this technique can help you recall anything by just walking through a building.
[21:13] Other systems for memorization by turning numbers into vowels and converting numbers into words and stories.
[22:14] How Patrick can read through a chart a make a one-page cheat sheet.
[25:34] How things are never perfectly in balance. Something is always requiring more. Life is never in balance, it is always on a sliding scale.
[26:47] Patrick looks at balance like a triangle. Mental and physical, economic, and spiritual all need to be kept in the triangle.
[28:16] Relationship problems coming from attention, energy, and money.
[30:55] The guiding light in the center of all of it and all the prongs of the triangle are pointing at this light.
[31:42] Look at your life as a triangle to simplify. Continuous improvement.
[33:03] Getting rid of distractions and starting with your ethos and compartmentalization. Take data that is not positive and compartmentalize.
[34:02] Take all of the bad things and put them in one part of your brain and focus on the positive. Bill Clinton and Viktor Frankl were masters at this.
[35:39] Mass, velocity, and momentum. Momentum either requires a great deal of mass or velocity to have momentum moving forward.
[37:21] Highly incentivized people have an internal force like Michael Jordan and Muhammad Ali.
[38:06] Passion or discipline will help you blow through momentum.
[46:16] Sailing and Patrick and Michael's brother Randy.
[54:09] Regaining discipline when the momentum stops or gets derailed. There has to be a reason and internal motivation. Making it easier also helps. Scheduling a regular time helps.
[56:19] Removing barriers to accomplish what you want to do. Complexity is the enemy of execution.
[58:53] Consistency and developing a routine.

Links and Resources: Essentials of Strength Training and Conditioning
The Memory Book
The Drive Within Me

Quotes: “I live in a big house with just me and the birds and flowers. I’m the one who has the simple life.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“It takes a lot of momentum for me to keep going. If I stop, I’m at a dead stop.” Michael Bays

“If you don’t deload, something is going to happen to make you deload.” Michael Bays

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Welcome to episode 8 of The Hollow Tube Podcast, the podcast that answers the question of what if? Patrick and Michael kick off the show catching up with each other. Michael has just returned from visiting their dad. Patrick is catching up with some light reading with Gifts of the Crow and A Little History of the World. This book was written by E.H. Gombrich when he was only 26 years-old. He was originally editing a children’s book based on history and thought it was so poorly written that he created his own version. This version may have originally been for children, but it is a compelling history book for adults too.
The guys then move on to a discussion about the importance of Crows and Ravens. Ravens were depicted on cave paintings and adorned altars of Haida Shamans. Charles Dickens had a pet crow named Grip which inspired Edgar Allan Poe’s The Raven. Patrick also reminds Michael of a story where their mom got fed up with the kids watching TV when she returned home from work and chucked it out the window. They then began reading and memorizing poetry which created a lifelong love of the written word.
They also talk about Michael’s Ecuador trip and his sweat lodge experience. He had a profound experience that was all about breath, breathing, and taking the perfect breath. Which leads to the take home message for today which is always be with your breath and take responsibility for your life. That’s 100% of your life, because 99% yes is 100% no.

Topics Discussed Today [04:53] Patrick has always had an affinity for birds like jays, ravens, crows, etc. These birds are on the same intelligence level of primates.
[06:05] Crows are masters at shaping wire and making tools.
[07:34] Cave paintings in France depict crows. Haida shaman’s bodies are placed on altars adorned with crows.
[08:19] Charles Dickens had a pet Raven named Grip. Grip was featured in Barnaby Rudge. Edgar Allen Poe reviewed the novel and used Grip as inspiration for The Raven.
[09:12] When Michael and Patrick were kids, their mom had to carpool to work. When she got home they were all watching Amos and Andy. Their mom got tired of the TV watching, so she chucked the TV out the window. So, they grew up reading and memorizing poetry.
[11:51] Patrick would read so much, he sometimes missed school reading.
[12:55] How canned laughter on old TV shows was produced by people who are now dead.
[14:57] The Raven is Patrick's favorite poem.
[15:24] Phrenology and the shape of Darwin's nose. True Phrenology is an examination of someone's brain and skull. Crow's brains are very intricate and very much like human brains in many ways.
[19:36] Michael just returned from a trip to Ecuador.
[20:00] The value of TSA precheck. You just walk through the line.
[24:01] How it's easier to fly when wearing scrubs. "The Doctor Card"
[26:00] How their dad was a CHP officer and got involved in a shootout.
[30:45] Losing insight with dementia and just living in the moment.
[31:41] How Michael's dad flashed his badge and got Michael out of a speeding ticket.
[33:18] The beautiful airport in Ecuador. Michael stayed at a house with a view of two volcanoes and everything was green and lush.
[38:10] How it feels not to have any electrical things like appliances and Wi-Fi.
[38:55] Looking at the world differently and simple pleasures.
[40:36] Ants coming through a village in Yelapa, Mexico and eating all of the unwanted things.
[44:38] Vacationing in Mexico and having passports when you fly. A family vacation is in order.
[46:16] Lakota sweat lodges and the Sun Dance at a reservation in South Dakota. This is a sacred dance with fasting for several days and several sweat lodge sessions. It lasts for 4 days.
[47:46] Michael did several sweat lodges in Ecuador. The heat is very intense. They open the door just before they can't take the heat anymore.
[49:25] Building sweat lodges by bending little pieces of willow. It's a metaphor for the entering the womb of the Earth Mother.
[53:14] Coming into contact with your breath in a sweat lodge.
[54:13] Your breath is everything. When confronted with a situation take a breath and step back into yourself.
[55:05] Being in the hollow tube. Being the breath. Feeling at an integral level.
[57:06] Stepping away from the present world and walking towards your future and grabbing the energy and taking it back to the present.
[57:40] The first and last breath we take in this world.
[59:49] Taking a moment to reconnect with your breath.
[02:46] Heat shock proteins are released when exposed to extreme heat conditions. HSPs or HSP 70s are found in fruit flies.
[03:56] HSPs are produced by all of the cells in our bodies in extreme or shock conditions.
[04:45] Effective proteins fold and have to be three dimensional.
[01:05:44] These proteins are also involved in clean up and take damaged proteins to the graveyard.
[01:06:47] They also help proteins transport.
[01:07:14] In a sweat lodge your body manufactures these proteins at a higher level.

Links and Resources: A Little History of the World
Gifts of the Crow: How Perception, Emotion, and Thought Allow Smart Birds to Behave Like Humans
Barnaby Rudge
The Raven
Change Your Brain, Change Your Life
Calm App

Quotes: “99% yes is 100% no, take responsibility for 100% of your life.” Michael Bays

“For someone who never went to college, our mom was the smartest person I ever met.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“People with dementia live in the moment and are always happy. There is something to be learned from that.” Michael Bays

“If you are not reading, you should be writing.” Patrick and Michael’s Mom

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Welcome to episode 7 of The Hollow Tube Podcast, the podcast that answers the question of what if? We kick off today’s show with Patrick trying to defend the metaphor he used last week about fetuses being parasitic. We also want you to know that if we misrepresent a fact we are willing to make corrections. Such as how Darwin’s voyage lasted 5 years not 3 years. Then we discuss Captain Fitzroy and suicide and factors that lead to depression and getting rid of depression.
Depression is usually caused by a chemical imbalance, but there can also be exogenous and reactive depression. There was a time when cold water was used as one of the forms of treatment and cold water can slow down the bodies functions. This leads to a discussion of the cleansing properties of water both physically and metaphorically. We also talk about where the hollow tube fits into all of this, and we throw in some fun stories and interesting books to add to your reading list. Enjoy.

Topics Discussed Today [03:17] Patrick tries to defend his metaphor of fetuses being parasitic from the last episode.
[04:38] Reasons women become anemic when they are pregnant.
[05:14] At least some folks can agree that some teenagers are parasitic.
[06:57] Podcasting like an auctioneer.
[08:39] Court reporters and transcriptionists and talking too fast in court.
[11:12] If we get something inaccurate on the podcast we always go back and correct it.
[11:52] Darwin's voyage lasted 5 years. 1831 - 1836. Correction made.
[13:59] Fitzroy assumed command of the Beagle on Darwin's famous voyage because the previous Captain killed himself.
[16:00] Darwin wasn't a good sketcher, so he used taxidermy to preserve specimens from his trip.
[16:33] Darwin went to medical school, but he was better with plants and animals.
[17:22] He didn't finish medical school after viewing a couple of surgeries who were not under anesthesia.
[18:06] Dr. Patrick saw a patient who wanted hip surgery without anesthesia because he was a hypnotist. The patient lasted until they made it down to the bone and then asked for anesthesia.
[20:14] Fitzroy wanted a companion on the ship because he didn't want to commit suicide like the previous Captain.
[20:50] Darwin was an abolitionist.
[21:04] In his later years Fitzroy committed suicide with a razor to the throat. He went full circle.
[22:07] Genetic predisposition for depression because it is a chemical problem.
[23:10] Cold water as a form of therapy in the old days. Diving reflex where everything slows down when we are underwater. Minimal heartbeat, less oxygen, brain preservation.
[24:01] Iceman Wim Hof cured his depression with ice cold water immersion and yoga.
[25:59] Exogenous depression and seasonal affective disorder and reactive depression such as a death etc.
[26:53] How depression propelled Uncle Michael to go to South America.
[27:14] Patrick snapped himself out of a phase of blue moods by making his bed every morning.
[30:06] How these podcasts aren't scripted, and we don't always have a lot of planned researched content. We try to be accurate, but we can always go back and fact check.
[31:54] Patrick had to testify in several trials this week. He often serves as an expert witness.
[32:32] Patrick is an orthopedic surgeon and has a degree in pharmacy.
[33:33] How to qualify to be an expert witness during a trial.
[34:24] The father of manipulative medicine and the beginning of chiropractic school and Daniel David Palmer.
[35:52] Polymath is someone fluent in many different things.
[38:09] Miyamoto Musashi a polymath and master of two swords. Being an expert in something can make you an expert in something else.
[39:04] How ironing and sewing helped Patrick to become a better surgeon.
[43:29] Tao - the space in between the breaths that we take.
[46:30] How it is difficult to explain ideas that don't have names.
[47:08] Traveling through the hollow tube. Let go of ego, opinions, and always needing to know the outcome. Accept that we are eternal beings, and accept our situation. Realize that we have the ability to change, and we can only change ourselves. Allow things to happen. Allow the phone to ring and then answer it.
[51:05] CQI - Continuous quality improvement based on ethos and creed
[56:56] Washing hands, cleansing with water, and baptism and original sin.
[58:59] Importance of water in the evolution of man.
[01:00:55] Purification with water and the hollow tube. Physical manifestation and a metaphor.

Links and Resources: Origin of Species by Charles Darwin
Darwin Portrait of a Genius by Paul Johnson
Make Your Bed by William H. McRaven
The Descent of Man by Charles Darwin
The Book of Five Rings by Miyamoto Musashi
Tao Te Ching by Lao Tzu
Man’s Search for Meaning by Viktor E. Frankl

Quotes: “In our lives we are aiming for the target and getting ourselves through the eye of the needle.” Dr. Michael Bays

“It’s better to be precise rather than fast” Dr. Patrick Bays

“If you are feeling down or like you don’t have control, take an extra minute each morning and make your bed.” Dr. Patrick Bays

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Today, we talk about how overcoming obstacles in life make us stronger. We touch on Stephen King’s near death experience, and share a very personal story when Michael lost vision in one of his eyes. Growing and living a great life goes back to having a creed and ethos and living your life according to your vision and mission statement. We talk about universal virtues and values, and how Dr. Dening and Benjamin Franklin applied these to their lives. We also talk about the importance of being and having mentors. Enjoy the show!

Topics Discussed Today [03:28] How wealth didn't change Sam Walton, and he was the same guy driving an old truck around Bentonville.
[04:28] A story about Sam Walton almost getting kicked out of his own store by security.
[05:30] Patrick found seven perfect stepping stones from a quarry. These stones are creating a path to his "secret space".
[10:56] Where Stephen King kept his desk when he wrote Carrie and received a call that it was bought for $400,000.
[12:56] Stephen King's near death experience when he was hit by a van and came close to dying. How writing was part of his routine. He wrote 2000 words a day which made a novel in 3 months.
[17:36] When Michael moved his practice from Branson, MO to Tucson, AZ he ended up blind in one eye. He was ready to give up. But his wife said he couldn't quit and he had to keep going.
[21:11] Michael's miraculous recovery.
[22:44] How being a patient makes us vulnerable and dependent on others for help.
[23:54] Universal medical hierarchy for injured monkeys.
[25:28] The difference between a creed and ethos. Creed is a set of beliefs that guide actions. Ethos moral nature of groups and actions.
[26:38] Vision statement is a declaration of short and long term goals.
[27:56] Developing a vision statement using your creed and ethos.
[28:14] Mission statement is a written declaration of what your purpose is.
[28:56] Purpose of life to perpetuate the species, but the meaning of life is to teach and give meaning.
[29:42] Patrick's ethos: perseverance, intelligence, and loyalty.
[31:28] Michael's ethos: Being authentic, being grateful for every moment, and passionate.
[33:48] Universal Values: happiness, love, peace, freedom, safety, intelligence, respect, equality, justice, health, fairness, integrity, loyalty, and compassion.
[34:38] Universal Virtues: honesty, respect, generosity, perseverance, authenticity, purity, loyalty, modesty, justice, patience, discipline, kindness, creativity, trust, gratitude, and service.
[35:41] Benjamin Franklin's 13 virtues were his ethos and creed that formed his actions.
[37:34] Work on the quality that is the most important to you at the time. It's hard to do all at once.
[38:08] Dr. Deming's mission statement for companies and the 14 Points of Deming. Always be improving and develop a new philosophy. loyalty, and trust. Small changes now mean big changes in the future. Drive out fear.
[39:48] Eliminate slogans and don't live a cliche. Develop your own creed and ethos.
[41:30] Continuous quality improvement or always be growing.
[44:48] The importance of mentorship and studying what you really want to be or targeting and mirroring someone who has attributes that you admire.
[48:27] Always having a mentor and always being a mentor.
[53:51] Michael found an awesome new mentor, but what does Michael bring to the table? Sharing knowledge and wisdom.
[01:04:10] A letter from Martha Graham.

Action steps from today’s show:

Have a vision for your life and write it in your “hollow tube” notebook. Write out how a day in your life will feel. You could also write out your death bed scene or three things you would want on your headstone. Keep these secret, you don’t want to give away the energy. Be a “silent warrior”.

Links and Resources: Darrell Darnell Pro Podcast Solutions
On Writing by Stephen King
Benjamin Franklin’s 13 Virtues
Out of Crisis by W. Edwards Deming
Dr. Deming's 14 Points for Management

Quotes: “Like going into the hollow tube, stripping away impurities, uncertainties, and negativities when going through life altering situations makes you a different person.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“Sometimes in life, it takes something tragic to bring out your best self.” Michael Bays

“I realized, in a way, that the blindness made me stronger and more confident and changed my life for the better.” Michael Bays

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Welcome to episode 5 of The Hollow Tube Podcast, the podcast that answers the question of what if? We are starting to get into the rhythm of podcasting and working out all of the audio issues which can happen with Skype recorded calls. Patrick wanted to clarify that the pigeons on his deck are the wild band-tailed pigeons, not the ones you see in parks downtown.

In tonight’s show we talk about having a vision statement and the concept of “ethoscentricity” or the philosophy that you live your life by. It would be a good idea to write down your philosophy on a piece of paper and carry it around with you until it becomes ingrained in your DNA. This is who you are and no one is going to change it. The basic tenants of your ethos must be something that you won’t deviate from unless it is for the better.

Topics Discussed Today [03:15] The flock of 8 pigeons on Patrick's deck are the beautiful banded pigeons which are cousins to carrier pigeons.
[05:45] Expanding your creativity by sketching details in a book the way Darwin did.
[07:13] How Darwin sat on his information for decades because evolution went against religion doctrine of the day.
[07:56] Darwin’s most important book was his first The Origin of Animal Species.
[08:44] How Darwin's dad wanted him to go to medical school and he didn't want to go.
[10:15] How the tortoises on the Galapagos are massive with some as big as Volkswagens. The crews on ships also ate them and almost wiped them out.
[12:29] The wallpaper guy who knew everything about history and the greatest books of all time.
[15:12] Constants and variables. Constants are hanging the X-rays on the view box before surgery to always know what body part you are working on and looking at the consent form. Have everything lined up perfectly and straight.
[17:43] Constants that you do the same way everytime become ingrained in your muscle memory.
[18:09] Use the constants to become prepared for the variables, so that you can analyze things on the fly.
[18:59] The movie Sully with Tom Hanks and how it takes a few seconds for the human brain to analyze a variable. The perfect example of constants and variables in the real world.
[22:30] How negative ideology can become a self-fulfilling prophecy and become our story or "nightmare".
[24:29] We have a genetic predisposition to be certain types of things in our life. We are also influenced by environmental factors like friends, family, and nutrition.
[25:48] "Ethoscentricity" - What is the creed you live by to guide your life. Things like Benjamin Franklin's 13 virtues or characteristics of how he wanted to live his life.
[27:33]Industrial Engineer Dr. Deming wanted to create a vision statement from top to bottom and create a collaborative atmosphere with everyone having a more clear understanding. He went to Ford and US automakers, and he was rejected. He took his ideas to Japan and 'made in Japan" became a way of life.
[30:34] The Deming Award for Excellence
[31:52] Continuous quality improvement is making incremental changes to each component to perfect the entire system.
[34:56] It all starts with making changes in yourself which lead to incremental changes in people around you. Know your truth.
[36:15] If you have a clear vision of your ideal self and you align with that everything clicks for you. The "hollow tube" concept.
[37:35] The Red Telephone is ringing with tidbits from your future self to your current self. Answer the telephone.
[40:43] How Mike got Patrick interested in the metaphoric "hollow tube" structure.
[45:52] Embryos, parasites, and hormonal changes when a mother has a child. The ultimate symbiosis.

Tip for Moving Forward

Go out and get a “hollow tube” notebook. Get it in a power color that works for you. Sit down and envision your ideal self. Then list 3 characteristics that you can begin working on. Then start making incremental changes. You can always add more characteristics later. Also, keep in mind the law of constants and variables and try to have as many constants as possible.

Links and Resources: Band-tailed pigeon
The Origin of Species by Charles Darwin
Mastery by Robert Greene
Benjamin Franklin’s 13 Virtues
Dr. Deming’s 14 Points for Management

Quotes: “An unvarnished stone out in the world will take on whatever shape of life that has been thrown at it.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“We are born as blank slates, then through conditioning we develop a false identification.” Michael Bays

“The world will ask you who you are and if you don't know they will tell you.” Carl Jung

“Know yourself.” Plato

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Welcome to episode 4 of The Hollow Tube Podcast, the podcast that answers the question of what if? Today, we discuss growing up in the desert, and how Patrick was able to create the intention of where and how he wanted to live before finding his dream home.

We also talk about riding the ferry, pods of orcas, and how relaxing it is to watch birds. This leads to a discussion about birds with hollow bones and bones in general. We discuss the importance of breathing, the secret of constants and variables, and a little bit about emergency tracheostomies.

We also talk about the Lakota healer Frank Fools Crow and everything related. He was one of the modern day fathers of the hollow tube hollow bone theory. Stay tuned for our fun and lively discussion.

Topics Discussed Today [04:23] How Patrick takes the ferry to work and how relaxing it is. The ferry slows down for pods of orcas.
[08:19] How Patrick and Michael grew up in Arizona and played in the desert when they were young.
[09:05] How beautiful and green Seattle is compared to living in the desert.
[10:00] Creating an intention of what your dream is. Patrick had the intention of living in a beautiful lush area with his family. The house he lives in (his dream house) is exactly the house he intended.
[13:29] Patrick's dream deck includes wild birds from eagles to jays to a pigeon population.
[18:05] How birds have hollow bones which are similar to how our sinuses also have hollow bones.
[21:21] The one rule of "getting pimped" in medical school. Don't answer unless you are sure.
[22:05] Fools Crow and the movie based on it "Thunderheart".
[23:43] Frank Fools Crow was a Lakota holy man and a great healer.
[27:02] How concepts talked about by Frank Fools Crow are repeated in modern day life.
[29:35] How strenuous healing can be for a healer like Frank Fools Crow.
[31:49] Capturing your vision for your life.
[33:03] Breathing with the same respiration of the universe.
[36:04] Uncanny is something unusual or different. How predators choose their prey.
[38:05] The evolution of breath in life from birth to our very last breath.
[44:06] Focusing on your breath to reset in stressful situations.
[45:09] Why breathing techniques can make us calm by changing our focus and physiology.
[48:01] Patrick "pimps" Michael with a question about emergency intubation with a pocket knife and a pen or 'hollow tube".
[51:35] Conserving energy so that you can use your energy on things that are important to your vision.

Secret Tip for Making Life Simpler

Secret of constants and variables. There are a lot of constants in life like breathing and heart beats. Have constants and routines, so you don’t have to think about routine things. This will conserve energy, so it can be spent on creative work, family time, and things that matter and help us grow.

Links and Resources: Fools Crow by Thomas E. Mails
Fools Crow: Wisdom and Power by Thomas Mails
Calm App

Quotes: “Taking the ferry to work gives me a chance to relax and get a lot of things done.” Dr. Patrick Bays

“Anybody can do what I do, but you have to live the way that I live to become a hollow bone.” Frank Fools Crow

“If you find a way to grasp chi energy it will take you forward to your vision and propel you like a tailwind.” Michael Bays

“Vision isn’t about your goal, it’s about the all encompassing way you want to live your life.” Michael Bays

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Today Uncle Pat and I do our first Skype interview. We discuss life hacks to prevent burnout in our lives, survive a concentration camp and something Uncle Pat came up with called "Warrior Bones."

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Today Uncle Pat and I discuss 500 pound rats and "Think Keys." Still working the bugs out. Be patient. It only gets better. Be sure to subscribe...please.

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