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About This Week's Guest This episode features Frank and Wade from Pro Church Lights, teaching from the Churchfront Conference in Melbourne Beach, Florida. They help churches build practical, volunteer-friendly lighting systems that support worship, hospitality, and ministry impact.

Church lighting is not about manipulating emotion. It is about setting the table so people can walk into a space that feels intentional, welcoming, and ready for worship.

In this episode, Frank and Wade explain why lighting matters from both a biblical and practical perspective, then walk through five principles every church can use to improve its lighting: nail the foundational elements, simplify control, standardize looks, train volunteers, and upgrade strategically. Whether your church is starting with a basic lighting setup or trying to make an existing system easier for volunteers to run, this conversation will help you make smarter decisions and create a better worship environment. Lighting Cheat Sheet and Lightkey Project file - https://drive.google.com/drive/u/0/mobile/folders/1-q8N2wDohDmCd1YxaQ0-8UQjUUkkmb-R?usp=sharing • • • • •

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In this episode, Jake Gosselin and Luke Jackson unpack why Churchfront does not start AVL projects by handing churches a quick bid or quote. They explain the difference between an estimate, bid, quote, proposal, and RFP, and why accurate pricing for church AVL work depends on design, engineering, site context, system goals, and clear specifications.

Jake and Luke also walk through Churchfront's pre-design and consulting process, including the on-site visit, discovery conversations, inventory, program report, budget ranges, phasing recommendations, and the path from consulting to design, engineering, and final project proposal.

If your church is planning an audio, video, lighting, broadcast, or renovation project, this conversation will help you understand what information is needed before a firm quote is possible and how to move forward with clarity instead of guesswork.

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About This Week's Guest Nathan Finocchio is a speaker, teacher, and longtime worship leader who brings a sharp, theological perspective to conversations about worship, church leadership, and the role of the Holy Spirit in the gathered church.

In this Churchfront Conference keynote, Nathan Finocchio makes a bold case for why church production matters. Rather than treating lights, sound, video, and AVL systems as distractions, Nathan argues that production can help facilitate the first ministry of the church: worshiping God.

Nathan unpacks the biblical language of praise, sacrifice, priesthood, and presence, challenging church leaders and production teams to move from a consumer mindset to a priestly mindset. This conversation will help worship pastors, production directors, tech teams, and church leaders recover a deeper "why" behind the work of creating excellent worship environments.

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Why Is Church AV So Expensive?

In this episode, Jake Gosselin and Luke Jackson break down why professional church AVL projects cost more than many churches expect. They explain the hidden work behind a reliable system, including engineering, logistics, insurance, software, support, staffing, travel, procurement, and long-term operational stability.

Jake and Luke also talk about why Churchfront does not try to be the cheapest AV integrator. Instead, they explain how accurate pricing protects churches from risky shortcuts, underbuilt systems, poor support, and unstable vendors. If your church is planning a renovation, new build, or major AV upgrade, this episode will help you understand what you are actually paying for and how to evaluate the right AVL partner.

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Get training for production leaders and volunteers Join us at the Churchfront Live Conference Follow us! Instagram Facebook TikTok About Reggi Beasley Reggi Beasley is a worship leader and ministry builder who helps churches build healthy, thriving worship teams. In this Churchfront Conference keynote, he brings a pastoral word of encouragement for worship, production, and church leaders who are doing good work but feeling weary in the middle of it.

In this episode, Reggi reminds ministry leaders that a sustainable life of service starts with receiving three simple but deeply needed truths: God sees you, God loves you, and God wants to spend time with you. Through the stories of Hagar, the prodigal son, and a personal moment from a ministry trip, he shows how grace restores our rhythm when performance, pressure, and responsibility begin to wear us down.

If you lead volunteers, carry the weight of weekend services, or feel the tension between ministry calling and real-life exhaustion, this message will help you slow down, remember the Father's love, and lead from intimacy instead of striving.

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Former Elevation Broadcast Engineer on Building a Healthier Church Production Team

About This Week's Guest: Stephen "Shep" Sheppard is a church production leader, content creator, and freelance broadcast/production specialist who has served in production roles at Elevation Church, Hope City Church, and multiple portable church environments. His experience spans volunteer leadership, broadcast engineering, campus launches, livestream systems, and coaching churches on how to build healthier production teams.

In this episode, Shep shares practical lessons from years of leading church production teams through high-pressure Sunday environments. He talks about reducing stress in production, simplifying systems, documenting technology, improving communication, and building volunteer teams that are healthy enough to serve and still participate in the life of the church.

You'll hear stories from portable church setups, live broadcast failures, team-building wins, and the leadership habits that help production directors support their pastors, multiply volunteers, and create sustainable systems for ministry. • • • • •

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Get training for production leaders and volunteers Join us at the Churchfront Live Conference Follow us! Instagram Facebook TikTok The Biggest AV Mistake Churches Make During Construction Projects In this episode, Jake and Sean explain why church AV should not be treated like gear you add at the end of a construction project. AV is a specialty construction trade that affects structural planning, electrical requirements, HVAC coordination, sightlines, cabling, equipment racks, control systems, and long-term volunteer usability. They unpack when churches should bring AV into the process, why pre-design consulting matters, how realistic budgets are built, and why you cannot accurately quote a system that has not been designed. They also discuss how better planning, detailed documentation, and experienced project management can prevent costly surprises and help churches steward construction projects with wisdom.

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Spirit, Skills, and Systems: The Formula Behind a Thriving Worship Ministry

Key Topics The three pillars of a healthy worship ministry

Jake explains why thriving ministries are built on three essential foundations: the Spirit of God moving through the church, skilled leaders who elevate the ministry, and healthy systems that sustain long-term growth. Missing any one of these creates unnecessary limitations and frustration.

How Rock Harbor grew from a church plant to nearly 600 people

Reflecting on the past three years, Jake shares how Rock Harbor transitioned from a small mobile church into a rapidly growing congregation. As attendance increased, the worship and production ministry had to mature alongside the church through better leadership, stronger musicianship, and intentional systems.

Why momentum attracts talented volunteers

One of the biggest lessons from Rock Harbor is that excellence attracts excellence. Competent leadership and healthy culture naturally draw gifted musicians, production volunteers, and future staff members who want to contribute to a ministry that's moving forward.

Finding the first key volunteer

For churches starting from scratch, Jake and Matt argue that all it takes is one exceptional volunteer to begin changing the culture. They share stories of volunteers who recruited entire teams simply because they experienced healthy leadership and an encouraging ministry environment.

When churches should start paying worship leaders

Rather than waiting until a church becomes large, Jake encourages smaller churches to budget for skilled worship leadership intentionally. Investing in one dependable, competent leader often creates the momentum needed to attract additional volunteers and raise the overall standard of the ministry.

Navigating difficult conversations with volunteers

Not every musician is best suited for every role. Jake and Matt discuss how healthy leaders lovingly help people find the ministry where they're most gifted instead of allowing poor role alignment to frustrate both the individual and the team.

Building systems that prevent burnout

Many churches struggle with constant staff turnover, not because people lack passion, but because poorly designed systems create unsustainable workloads. Jake argues that healthy planning, scheduling, communication, and preparation are essential for protecting ministry leaders over the long term.

Why great systems matter more than most churches realize

From Planning Center workflows to service planning and AV infrastructure, effective systems allow volunteers and staff to focus on ministry instead of chaos. Healthy systems create consistency, reduce stress, and make growth sustainable.

Small churches don't need unlimited budgets

Jake pushes back against the idea that churches need expensive equipment to thrive. Even churches running older consoles and limited technology can create excellent worship experiences by maximizing their existing resources with better leadership, training, and intentional systems.

Vision without systems leads to burnout

Visionary leaders often excel at inspiring people but struggle to build the infrastructure needed to support long-term growth. Jake explains why churches must develop organizational systems alongside their vision if they want healthy, sustainable ministry.

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Guest background: Ryan Visconti is the Lead Pastor of Generation Church in Mesa, Arizona. A former Army officer who served in Iraq before entering ministry, Ryan brings a unique leadership perspective shaped by both military service and over a decade of leading a rapidly growing church. In this conversation, Ryan shares insights on church growth, staff culture, worship leadership, difficult personnel decisions, AI, and what it means to lead with conviction in an increasingly complex cultural environment.

Key Topics Why lead pastors should care about worship and production Ryan believes worship and production are too important to be delegated without involvement from senior leadership. As a musician and former drummer, he sees worship as a central part of discipleship and church culture. Rather than viewing worship and production as separate departments, he sees them as essential ministry tools that help communicate truth and shape the spiritual life of the church.

Leading without micromanaging One of the recurring themes of the conversation is finding the balance between oversight and empowerment. Ryan argues that many leaders overcorrect against micromanagement and unintentionally drift into abdication. While creative leaders need freedom to lead, pastors still have a responsibility to provide vision, theological oversight, and clear expectations.

How worship shapes theology Songs often leave a deeper imprint on church members than sermons. Ryan discusses his process for reviewing new songs, evaluating lyrics, and ensuring worship services reinforce sound theology. Generation Church also uses Scripture on LED screens during worship to connect song lyrics directly to biblical truth.

Building a healthy staff culture Generation Church has experienced significant growth over the past decade, and Ryan attributes much of their staff culture to a strong sense of mission. Team members understand the purpose behind their work, move quickly toward goals, and share a common commitment to reaching people with the gospel.

Ministry families versus ministry jobs Ryan challenges the idea that ministry should be treated like a typical profession. Instead, he encourages staff members to see themselves as ministry families who are pursuing a shared calling together. This perspective shapes how the church supports staff spouses, children, and family life while helping prevent resentment toward ministry.

Caring for staff kids intentionally As a pastor's kid himself, Ryan is passionate about helping ministry families thrive. Generation Church intentionally invests in staff children through celebrations, gifts, special events, and additional support. The goal is for staff kids to grow up loving the church rather than resenting the ministry environment they were raised in.

Growing a church from 500 to thousands Ryan reflects on the systems and leadership shifts required as Generation Church grew from approximately 500 attendees to one of the largest churches in the region. He discusses key growth barriers, assimilation systems, volunteer pipelines, and the importance of continually adapting leadership structures as the organization expands.

Why serving is often more powerful than small groups While both serving and small groups create community, Ryan believes serving can be one of the most effective pathways to engagement. Serving teams naturally create relationships, ownership, and a deeper connection to the mission of the church.

When organizations outgrow their leaders One of the most candid portions of the conversation focuses on leadership capacity. Ryan explains that churches must continually develop leaders because organizations can eventually outgrow the abilities of the people leading them. While these conversations are often difficult, leaders have a responsibility to prioritize the long-term health of the mission.

Lessons from military leadership Ryan shares how his years as an Army officer continue to influence his approach to leadership. The military taught him the importance of leading by example, maintaining high standards, embracing accountability, and understanding that leadership requires both responsibility and courage.

Wartime ministry in a changing culture Drawing on his military background, Ryan describes modern ministry as "wartime ministry." He believes church leaders face increasing cultural pressure and must be prepared to lead through controversy, opposition, and difficult conversations without compromising biblical convictions.

AI and the future of ministry Ryan is cautiously optimistic about artificial intelligence. He already uses AI to accelerate sermon research and administrative tasks, but he also recognizes challenges that come with AI-generated misinformation and theological confusion. He believes church leaders will need to help people navigate a future where AI increasingly influences how individuals seek answers and form beliefs.

Teaching truth with clarity and compassion A major focus of the conversation is the relationship between truth and grace. Ryan argues that effective ministry requires both compassion and conviction. While leaders should genuinely care for people, they should also be willing to address difficult topics and provide clear biblical guidance rather than avoiding controversial issues.

Difficult leadership decisions and church health Ryan discusses the painful reality that leadership sometimes requires difficult personnel and cultural decisions. Healthy organizations cannot avoid conflict forever, and leaders must be willing to protect culture, address problems directly, and prioritize the long-term health of the church over short-term comfort.

Reaching a new generation searching for truth Ryan believes many young adults—especially young men—are searching for clarity, purpose, and truth. As culture becomes increasingly unstable, he sees growing opportunities for churches that are willing to communicate biblical truth clearly while helping people find meaning and hope through Christ.

Notable tools, organizations, and resources mentioned • Generation Church

• ChatGPT

• Gemini

• Logos Bible Software

• Inside Elevation

• Elevation Church

• United States Army

• Charlie Kirk

• Leadership Research Services

• Real-Time AI Translation Technology

Key Quote "Ministry is the one arena that is actually higher stakes than combat. In combat, this is life and death. In ministry, this is heaven and hell."

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Churchfront Conference Workshop — Lee Fields | Building Volunteer Mixing Systems That Actually Work Guest background: Lee Fields is a front-of-house engineer, audio educator, and one of the most respected voices in live sound for churches. In this Churchfront Conference workshop, Lee demonstrates his practical approach to building repeatable mixing systems that help volunteer audio engineers succeed week after week. Drawing from decades of experience in live production, he focuses less on mixing tricks and more on creating processes, gain structures, and source quality that deliver consistent results regardless of who is behind the console.

Key Topics The true measure of an audio director Lee challenges a common assumption among church audio leaders. Great audio leadership is not measured by how well you mix when you're behind the console—it's measured by how good the mix sounds when you're not there. The goal of every production leader should be building systems that enable volunteers to succeed consistently rather than relying on a single expert operator.

Why consistency matters more than complexity Many churches unintentionally create complicated mixing environments that overwhelm volunteers. Lee advocates for simpler workflows, fewer variables, and repeatable processes that lower the skill barrier while maintaining high-quality results. The easier the system is to operate, the more likely volunteers are to succeed.

The upstream factors that shape every mix Before touching a console, Lee explains that every mix is heavily influenced by factors that happen long before signal reaches the mixer. Room acoustics, speaker placement, PA tuning, source quality, and stage volume all have a greater impact on the final result than plugin choices or advanced processing techniques.

Sources matter more than gear One of Lee's core philosophies is that great sound begins at the source. Well-tuned drums, properly dialed-in guitar tones, quality vocal technique, and intentional stage preparation solve far more problems than expensive gear or complicated processing chains ever will.

Building a default mix file for volunteers Rather than rebuilding a mix from scratch every weekend, Lee recommends creating a carefully designed baseline console file. By investing significant time into gain structure, EQ, compression, routing, and effects ahead of time, churches can create a starting point that volunteers can confidently use every week.

The importance of proper gain structure Lee emphasizes that gain staging is one of the most overlooked aspects of church audio. Compression thresholds, EQ decisions, effects sends, and overall mix balance depend on consistent input levels. If gain structure changes every week, nothing else on the console behaves predictably.

Line check, soundcheck, and rehearsal are not the same thing Many churches blur the lines between technical preparation and musical rehearsal. Lee explains the importance of separating line checks, soundchecks, rehearsals, and individual practice. When each step serves its intended purpose, teams become more efficient and less stressed.

EQ decisions driven by musical context Throughout the workshop, Lee demonstrates how EQ should be guided by what a source needs to contribute to the overall mix rather than arbitrary frequency targets. High-pass filters, low-mid cleanup, and frequency shaping all serve the larger goal of creating clarity and space for every instrument.

Why less processing often sounds better Instead of relying on extensive plugins and advanced processing chains, Lee demonstrates how effective results can be achieved using basic console tools. Careful use of EQ, compression, gates, and a small number of reverbs often produces more consistent and musical results than overly complicated setups.

Managing tracks in modern worship environments Lee discusses practical strategies for integrating tracks into a live worship mix. Rather than sending every track element to a single stereo channel, he recommends separating important musical hooks, percussion elements, vocals, and support layers so engineers can maintain clarity and control.

Reverb techniques for clarity and depth The workshop includes several practical reverb strategies, including using high-pass filters, controlling low-mid buildup, and utilizing pre-delay to preserve vocal intelligibility. These subtle adjustments help create depth without sacrificing clarity in the mix.

Developing your ear as an engineer When asked about his mixing process, Lee explains that great engineers develop a mental library of sounds through years of listening. Every EQ move and processing decision is guided by a clear sonic destination based on thousands of hours of critical listening and musical study.

Notable tools and equipment mentioned • Allen & Heath Consoles

• Midas Wing

• Meyer Sound Loudspeakers

• Shure SM57

• Nord Keyboards

• MainStage

• Pro Tools

• Spotify

• Playback Tracks

Key Quote "The quality of your mixing skill has nothing to do with how well you mix. It has everything to do with what it sounds like when you're not behind the console and someone else is."

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Guest background: Josh Kelsey is the Lead Pastor of Vineyard Church in California. In this conversation, Josh shares how his church is actively using AI across nearly every department—from sermon preparation and curriculum creation to operations, worship ministry, and discipleship. He offers a practical vision for how church leaders can use AI to reclaim time, reduce burnout, and focus more deeply on shepherding people.

Key Topics AI in the church: fear vs. opportunity Josh argues that many church leaders are approaching AI with unnecessary fear. While concerns around ethics and implementation are valid, he sees AI primarily as a tool—one that can dramatically increase effectiveness while freeing leaders to focus on ministry. He believes churches that embrace these tools thoughtfully will be able to pastor more effectively, not less.

Why churches are historically slow to adopt technology Churches and nonprofits are often years behind the business world when it comes to adopting new technology. Josh believes AI is creating one of the largest technological shifts of our generation, and many church leaders risk missing opportunities simply because they haven't taken time to understand what's actually possible.

Scaling ministry without losing community One of the most intriguing ideas discussed is whether AI can help churches scale without sacrificing the personal connection that often disappears as organizations grow. Instead of hiring more specialists for every operational challenge, churches may soon be able to use AI systems to maintain consistency, communication, and care at a much larger scale.

AI as a team of specialists Rather than thinking of AI as a chatbot, Josh encourages leaders to think of it as an entire team of specialists available on demand. Administrative support, curriculum development, data analysis, planning, project management, and content creation can all be assisted by AI, allowing pastors to spend more time on teaching, discipleship, and relationships.

The future of church software The conversation explores how tools like Planning Center, HubSpot, Notion, Logos, MultiTracks, and other church software platforms will likely become deeply integrated with AI through technologies like APIs and Model Context Protocol (MCP). Instead of manually moving information between platforms, leaders will increasingly interact with a single AI layer that understands and works across their entire ministry ecosystem.

How Josh uses AI for sermon planning Josh shares his personal workflow for annual sermon planning and weekly sermon preparation. What once required multiple staff meetings and days of planning can now be completed in minutes. He uses AI to help organize ideas, structure teaching series, review theological themes, and accelerate sermon preparation while maintaining full ownership over theological convictions and final content.

Using AI without losing your voice One of the biggest concerns among pastors is whether AI will replace authentic preaching. Josh argues that AI works best as a collaborator rather than a creator. By training AI on previous sermons, theological frameworks, and ministry values, leaders can use it to refine and organize their ideas while still maintaining their unique voice and convictions.

Curriculum creation and discipleship workflows Vineyard uses AI extensively to create small group curriculum, discipleship resources, class materials, slide decks, teacher guides, and parent resources. Tools like NotebookLM help transform existing content into multiple formats, dramatically reducing preparation time while increasing consistency across ministries.

AI-powered worship ministry Worship and production teams are also leveraging AI. Josh and his worship pastor discuss using tools like Suno to create custom music, countdown tracks, and ministry-specific content. They also explore future possibilities for creating custom stems, backing tracks, and other resources that could significantly reduce production workload.

The ethics of AI and transparency Throughout the conversation, Josh emphasizes the importance of transparency. Leaders should be honest about where AI is assisting their work while recognizing that many forms of ministry have always involved collaboration, research assistance, editors, and support staff. The key is maintaining integrity while leveraging powerful new tools.

A leveling of the playing field for small churches Perhaps the most exciting implication is what AI means for under-resourced churches. Pastors who lack staff, consultants, formal training, or large budgets can now access tools that help bridge those gaps. Josh believes AI may become one of the most powerful ministry equalizers the Church has ever seen.

Notable tools and resources mentioned • Claude

• ChatGPT

• Gemini

• NotebookLM

• Planning Center

• HubSpot

• Notion

• Logos Bible Software

• Suno

• Zapier

• MultiTracks

• Google Workspace

Key Quote "Imagine if you could free up 15 hours of your week to spend more time making sure the people in your church who are most forgotten actually get seen."

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Guest background: Reggi Beasley spent eight years on staff at Elevation Church, serving in multiple worship leadership roles before becoming Worship Pastor overseeing worship ministry across Elevation's multi-site campuses. In this conversation, Reggi shares practical leadership lessons from leading large teams, developing healthy ministry culture, navigating difficult personnel decisions, and helping worship leaders grow in both character and calling. Drawing from decades of ministry experience, he offers wisdom for church leaders seeking to build thriving teams without sacrificing people in the process.

Key Topics Leading worship across a multi-site church Reggi shares what it was like overseeing worship ministry across Elevation Church's many campuses, caring for hundreds of worship team members while maintaining consistency, culture, and leadership development. He explains how healthy systems and clear communication help large ministries scale without losing their pastoral focus.

Why culture rises and falls on leadership Strong ministry culture begins with leaders who can communicate vision clearly and model it consistently. Reggi explains that leadership is not just about saying the right things but communicating with the right spirit and heart. People follow both what leaders say and how they say it.

Building healthy audition and onboarding processes The conversation explores practical systems for auditioning and onboarding worship team members. Reggi explains why churches should depersonalize parts of the evaluation process while keeping pastoral care highly personal. Clear standards, structured feedback, and thoughtful communication can help leaders maintain excellence without damaging relationships.

Protecting relationships while maintaining standards One of the most practical leadership discussions centers around how churches can navigate difficult conversations when someone is not ready to serve on the platform. Reggi emphasizes the importance of protecting people's dignity while still maintaining standards that serve the health of the ministry.

The power of delegated leadership Rather than becoming the sole source of feedback and correction, Reggi encourages worship pastors to build leadership layers within their teams. By empowering music directors, section leaders, and trusted volunteers, churches can create healthier cultures while preventing leaders from becoming bottlenecks.

Why leaders should "save their voice" One of Reggi's favorite leadership principles is learning to "save your voice." Instead of always being the person who delivers correction, leaders can create systems where accountability comes through trusted team members. This protects relationships, strengthens other leaders, and allows pastors to use their influence more strategically.

Handling difficult transitions and team changes Every worship leader eventually faces difficult decisions around staffing, volunteers, standards, and inherited ministry cultures. Reggi shares lessons learned from both successes and mistakes, encouraging leaders to move slowly, lead with empathy, and prioritize people over programs.

Patience, growth, and long-term ministry impact Many young leaders feel pressure to create rapid change, but Reggi argues that meaningful ministry growth often happens slowly. Drawing on agricultural and biblical imagery, he explains why patience, consistency, and faithfulness produce deeper and more sustainable results than constant urgency.

Common leadership challenges facing worship pastors From performance-driven identities to platform ambition, Reggi discusses some of the most common character challenges he sees among worship leaders. He encourages leaders to root their identity in Christ rather than influence, opportunity, or recognition.

Calling versus assignment A major theme of the conversation is the distinction between calling and assignment. Reggi challenges the modern tendency to treat every ministry opportunity as a calling, arguing instead that our primary calling is to follow Christ faithfully. Assignments may change, but identity remains constant.

Equipping the saints for ministry Drawing from Ephesians 4, Reggi explores how ministry leaders are called to equip others rather than become the center of ministry themselves. Whether in the marketplace, church, or home, every believer has opportunities to participate in meaningful kingdom work.

Crown Collaborative and encouraging church leaders Reggi shares his vision for Crown Collaborative, a new nonprofit focused on connecting, encouraging, and supporting pastors, executive pastors, and worship leaders. His goal is to help leaders learn together, laugh together, and build the kind of resilience that allows them to last for the long haul.

Notable resources and organizations mentioned • Elevation Church

• Crown Collaborative

• Ephesians 4

• Micah 6:8

• Passion Conferences

• Hillsong Worship

• Chris Tomlin

• Louis Giglio

• Ableton Live

• In-ear monitor systems

Key Quote "When you sit in a seat of leadership, you probably underestimate the way other people weigh your words."

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Churchfront Podcast — Josh Kelsey | How AI Is Transforming Church Ministry

Guest background: Josh Kelsey is the Lead Pastor of Vineyard Church in California. In this conversation, Josh shares how his church is actively using AI across nearly every department—from sermon preparation and curriculum creation to operations, worship ministry, and discipleship. He offers a practical vision for how church leaders can use AI to reclaim time, reduce burnout, and focus more deeply on shepherding people.

Key Topics

AI in the church: fear vs. opportunity Josh argues that many church leaders are approaching AI with unnecessary fear. While concerns around ethics and implementation are valid, he sees AI primarily as a tool—one that can dramatically increase effectiveness while freeing leaders to focus on ministry. He believes churches that embrace these tools thoughtfully will be able to pastor more effectively, not less.

Why churches are historically slow to adopt technology Churches and nonprofits are often years behind the business world when it comes to adopting new technology. Josh believes AI is creating one of the largest technological shifts of our generation, and many church leaders risk missing opportunities simply because they haven't taken time to understand what's actually possible.

Scaling ministry without losing community One of the most intriguing ideas discussed is whether AI can help churches scale without sacrificing the personal connection that often disappears as organizations grow. Instead of hiring more specialists for every operational challenge, churches may soon be able to use AI systems to maintain consistency, communication, and care at a much larger scale.

AI as a team of specialists Rather than thinking of AI as a chatbot, Josh encourages leaders to think of it as an entire team of specialists available on demand. Administrative support, curriculum development, data analysis, planning, project management, and content creation can all be assisted by AI, allowing pastors to spend more time on teaching, discipleship, and relationships.

The future of church software The conversation explores how tools like Planning Center, HubSpot, Notion, Logos, MultiTracks, and other church software platforms will likely become deeply integrated with AI through technologies like APIs and Model Context Protocol (MCP). Instead of manually moving information between platforms, leaders will increasingly interact with a single AI layer that understands and works across their entire ministry ecosystem.

How Josh uses AI for sermon planning Josh shares his personal workflow for annual sermon planning and weekly sermon preparation. What once required multiple staff meetings and days of planning can now be completed in minutes. He uses AI to help organize ideas, structure teaching series, review theological themes, and accelerate sermon preparation while maintaining full ownership over theological convictions and final content.

Using AI without losing your voice One of the biggest concerns among pastors is whether AI will replace authentic preaching. Josh argues that AI works best as a collaborator rather than a creator. By training AI on previous sermons, theological frameworks, and ministry values, leaders can use it to refine and organize their ideas while still maintaining their unique voice and convictions.

Curriculum creation and discipleship workflows Vineyard uses AI extensively to create small group curriculum, discipleship resources, class materials, slide decks, teacher guides, and parent resources. Tools like NotebookLM help transform existing content into multiple formats, dramatically reducing preparation time while increasing consistency across ministries.

AI-powered worship ministry Worship and production teams are also leveraging AI. Josh and his worship pastor discuss using tools like Suno to create custom music, countdown tracks, and ministry-specific content. They also explore future possibilities for creating custom stems, backing tracks, and other resources that could significantly reduce production workload.

The ethics of AI and transparency Throughout the conversation, Josh emphasizes the importance of transparency. Leaders should be honest about where AI is assisting their work while recognizing that many forms of ministry have always involved collaboration, research assistance, editors, and support staff. The key is maintaining integrity while leveraging powerful new tools.

A leveling of the playing field for small churches Perhaps the most exciting implication is what AI means for under-resourced churches. Pastors who lack staff, consultants, formal training, or large budgets can now access tools that help bridge those gaps. Josh believes AI may become one of the most powerful ministry equalizers the Church has ever seen.

Notable tools mentioned

• Claude

• ChatGPT

• Gemini

• NotebookLM

• Planning Center

• HubSpot

• Notion

• Logos Bible Software

• Suno

• Zapier

• MultiTracks

• Google Workspace

Key Quote

"Imagine if you could free up 15 hours of your week to spend more time making sure the people in your church who are most forgotten actually get seen."

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In this episode, Matt sits down with Spencer, Churchfront's Director of Engineering, to break down the most common PA system problems churches face and how to design sound systems that actually serve the room. We're covering everything from phase cancellation and speaker placement to line arrays, point source speakers, acoustics, modeling software, and practical ways to improve your church's audio without breaking the budget.

Whether you're planning a new audio system, troubleshooting an existing PA, or simply trying to understand why your room sounds the way it does, this conversation will help you make better decisions and avoid costly mistakes.

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Churchfront Podcast — Erwin McManus Lead Pastor, Mosaic Church (Los Angeles) | Author, The Seven Frequencies of Communication

Guest background: Erwin McManus has led Mosaic in LA for 35 years, building a congregation averaging in its twenties across 40+ nationalities. He's also an author, speaker, and has been a longtime participant in the Global Leadership Summit at Willow Creek.

Key Topics

What holds church leaders back The most common internal limitation isn't skill or resources — it's the lack of felt permission. Pastors are often communal and loyal by nature, which also makes them dependent on someone saying "it's okay to go for it." The church culture tends to withhold permission rather than grant it. This is a big reason conferences are so magnetic — they're not primarily about information, they're about permission receiving. People go to be in a room where they feel free to dream, risk, and believe. Erwin said a large part of his life's work has been giving people permission: to dream big, to risk, to try low-percentage ideas, and to fail without that defining their worth.

Giving permission downward in the org chart Leaders often receive permission at a conference and then come back and tell their team what to do — which is not the same as giving permission. True permission-giving means creating space for people to grow, develop, dream, and execute in their own way. Key principle: hold tight to where you're going, hold loosely to how you get there. Someone can execute at a high level and still do it differently than you would — and that's okay.

"It's All About People" vs. "You Can't Take Everyone With You" (from Mind Shift)McManus intentionally places these as Chapter 1 and Chapter 3 as a juxtaposition. Most leaders lean hard toward one and neglect the other. His advice: read both, figure out which one resonates more, then go apply the other one. That tension is where relational elegance lives.

When people leave, they attack your character At Mosaic, after major style and culture shifts, the people who left rarely said "I don't like the music." They attacked Erwin's character because it made them the hero of their story. He found the exceptions refreshing — the people who were honest ("the church is too young," "too diverse," "too evangelistic") made it easy to respond. His approach: when you bring clarity as a leader, you're giving people the gift of choice. If they hate who you are now, they're going to really hate who you're becoming — so this is actually a good time to part ways. "If you're everything, you're nothing."

The white interior at Mosaic Hollywood During the 18-month pandemic shutdown, Aaron McManus pitched painting everything white — stage, speakers, walls. No precedent existed for it. The idea was: when people come back, we don't want them having a nostalgicexperience — we want them going forward. The white space became a blank canvas for projection and lighting in every direction. It's now been widely imitated. (They did the same thing at their current Pasadena theater space, which was the longtime home of the Rocky Horror Picture Show.)

The Seven Frequencies of Communication The seven frequencies are a framework for understanding how people communicate and how they're heard — not just outwardly but internally, since your inner voice shapes the health of your soul. The frequencies: Commander, Challenger, Healer, Motivator, Professor, Seer, Maven. This isn't a static identity — it's a dynamic range you can access. The goal is mastery over your frequencies, not just defaulting to your primary one.

Every frequency also has a shadow — the dark version of the same trait. Commander → Dictator. Seer → Perfectionist. Challenger → Manipulator. Motivator → Performer. We tend to access our shadows with zero effort and have to work to access the authentic frequency. That's true of all positive human characteristics: courage, forgiveness, integrity all require work. Their negative counterparts (fear, bitterness, dishonesty) require nothing.
Practical example: Erwin's wife Kim is a Commander. 42 years of "turn off the lights and lock the doors" instead of "I love you." He learned to translate that as I love you, keep me safe. His daughter Mariah is a Challenger — she's always trying to elevate him, but it reads as reprimand. Understanding the frequency means getting offended less.

Hire for character, not for frequency When Jake asked whether leaders need Commander or Challenger to run a department, Erwin's answer was simple: if the character is right, the frequency will work itself out. A high-Motivator leader who doesn't have Commander will still make people want to achieve for them — and the team will learn to push for clarity on execution. Environmental health matters more than frequency profile.

Commanders and competency Commanders have competency as a core value. If you move a Commander into a new role without giving them enough context, resources, and framing, they won't feel like they're being trusted — they'll feel like they're being set up to fail. The key: make sure they feel equipped, not just trusted. "He just wants to make sure he has enough swords."

Seers in leadership Many megachurch pastors are Commander-Seer combinations. The risk for Seers is confusing movement with momentum — pivoting sideways to get around an obstacle, while the team thinks the direction has changed entirely. The Seer knows they're still heading north; they forgot to communicate why they went east first. Solution from their team's side: instead of assuming the vision changed, ask "this feels like a direction change — is this a strategic move to get there faster? Help me communicate it well."

Churchfront "Captive Consultant" segment Erwin's advice for Churchfront: since they're committed to serving churches exclusively, look for where churches are growing fastest — new residential development, emerging demographics — and think about what a scalable package looks like for smaller churches. The message is too important not to be heard clearly, which makes sound and AV integration genuinely mission-critical work. He also noted that once a building is built, the acoustic future is largely set — making early architectural involvement from integrators essential.

Book/Resource mentioned: The Seven Frequencies of Communication — includes an assessment on their website. Also mentioned: Mind Shift by Erwin McManus.

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How to Disciple Your Team When You're Always On Stage - Part 2 Episode Description In part two of this worship pastor conversation, Matt and Sean Bennett tackle the practical realities of leading volunteers, building sustainable systems, and avoiding burnout. They discuss how to disciple a team of 30 people when you can only really pour into 5 or 6, why production should enhance worship without becoming the focus, and why planning doesn't limit the Holy Spirit - it actually creates space for him to move.

Sean also shares why he has no desire to return to vocational ministry anytime soon, the "make it better" trap that burns out worship pastors, and the one simple rule that will save your sanity: Sundays are for service, not evaluation.

In This Episode * Discipleship at scale - You can't disciple 30 people on your own, so here's how to train disciples to be disciplers and create a sustainable leadership structure * How production supports worship - Why the pendulum is swinging away from production-heavy worship, and how to let production enhance rather than distract * Planning and the Holy Spirit - Why "I just want to be led by the Spirit" is a cop-out, and how good planning actually creates space for spontaneity * The biggest pitfall - Why not keeping the main thing the main thing is the fastest way to burn out your team and lose sight of why you're actually there * Practical tips for sustainability - Why Sundays are for service not evaluation, how to build yearly rhythms that include rest, and when to do acoustic sets to reset expectations

Timestamps 00:00 - How to Disciple Your Team When You're Always On Stage 04:42 - How Production Supports Worship Without Becoming the Focus 09:53 - Systems and Planning: The Holy Spirit Shows Up on Monday Too 16:03 - The Biggest Pitfall: Not Keeping the Main Thing the Main Thing 19:10 - The "Make It Better" Trap and How to Avoid Burnout 23:23 - Practical Tips: Sundays Are for Service, Not Evaluation

Key Quotes "You can't lead 30 people on your own. At some point you have to teach your leaders to be leaders and to lead other people."

"The Holy Spirit can show up on a Monday morning planning meeting just as much as he can show up on a Sunday during a service."

"Sundays are for service, not for evaluation. You can't change Sunday. The only thing you can do is look at it for next week."

"When we stand before God someday, he's not going to ask us how many perfect services we put on. He's going to ask us what our hearts were like."

Resources Mentioned * Planning Center * ProPresenter * Tom Jackson Productions * Carey Nieuwhof podcast episode (referenced)

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This is part 2 of 2. If you missed part 1, go back and watch that for insights on what to look for when taking a new worship pastor role and navigating the tension between excellence and authenticity.

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What I Wish I Knew Before Becoming a Worship Pastor - Part 1 Episode Description Matt sits down with Sean Bennett, one of the newest members of the Churchfront team and a 16-year worship ministry veteran, to talk about what it's really like to lead worship and production teams. In part one of this two-part conversation, they discuss what to look for when stepping into a new worship pastor role, navigating the tension between excellence and authenticity, and how to lead a production team you can never actually be with.

Both Matt and Sean have led in large churches, small churches, and multi-site churches. They've both been the worship pastor who also had to somehow lead the tech team. This conversation pulls back the curtain on the real challenges worship pastors face and offers practical wisdom for anyone in church production or worship leadership.

In This Episode * What to look for when interviewing for a worship pastor role - Why you need to see people at their worst before taking the job, and the red flags Sean wishes he'd paid more attention to * Excellence vs. authenticity - How to define excellence in a way that doesn't lead to perfectionism, and why "doing the best you can with what you have" changes everything * The worship/production leadership dilemma - Why churches should stop hiring one person to do both roles, and what to do if you're already in that position * You're a pastor first - Why your primary objective is discipleship, not musicianship, and how that changes the way you lead your team

Timestamps 00:00 - Introduction: Meet Sean Bennett 03:27 - What I'd Do Differently Stepping Into a New Role 08:04 - The Tension Between Excellence and Authenticity 13:16 - Leading a Production Team You Can Never Be With 18:15 - You're a Pastor First, Leader Second

Key Quotes "Excellence is doing the best you can with what you have. That starts with being honest about what you actually have."

"If you're leading people, you are a pastor. Your primary objective is discipleship - helping someone become more like Jesus."

"There are some churches that could not pay me enough to work for them. And knowing that ahead of time is a good thing."

Resources Mentioned * Working Genius Assessment by Patrick Lencioni * Churchfront free courses at churchfront.com

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Podcast Notes: Leadership & Scaling from Solo to 10+ Team Members with Jake Gosselin Overview Matt interviews Jake Gosselin about growing Churchfront from a one-person YouTube channel into a 10+ person church AVL systems integration company. They talk through leadership growth, hiring, delegation, and how to maintain vision while scaling, with direct parallels to church leadership.

Key Topics & Timestamps Vision as the Foundation (00:00–05:32) * Why clear vision needs to come before leadership development * Churchfront's mission: "Equip church leaders in spaces with innovative solutions for thriving ministry." * The importance of a mission statement, vision statement, and core values * A two-day workshop at Ramsey to clarify and communicate vision * Natural progression from YouTube creator to leading a 10-person team

Key Quote: "If there is no clear vision of where you're trying to bring that organization, then everything else that we're about to talk about with leadership development and scaling an organization is kind of irrelevant because nobody knows where you're going."

The Transition from Hands-On to Hands-Off (03:23–07:54) * How Jake went from knowing everything to empowering team decision-making * Building systems so problems get solved without senior leader involvement * Decision-making frameworks around mission, vision, values, and finances * When leaders should stay involved vs. when to delegate * Team members now have authority and clarity to address issues independently * High-risk or costly decisions still require senior leader involvement

Key Quote: "It's so cool that my brain, even though I can keep up with a lot of things, I can no longer keep up with all of the cool things that are happening in the business and probably some of the headaches."

Hiring A-Players (07:54–13:04) Essential hiring criteria:

Mission alignment — genuinely excited about equipping church leaders
Self-leadership — evidence of personal discipline (health, appearance, habits)
Character references — take time to call references and vet thoroughly
Working Genius Assessment — using Patrick Lencioni's framework to build balanced teams
Team vetting — multiple team members interview candidates

Churchfront Focus: Churchfront only works with churches (not corporate AV, DJ setups, or other venues). Candidates need to genuinely care about the local church.

Working Genius Details:

$25 assessment (WIDGET acronym)
Identifies whether someone leans toward Wonder/Invention vs. Tenacity/Galvanizing traits
Helps place people into roles that fit their strengths
Recommended for church staff to understand their "genius zones"

Key Quote: "If you can't lead yourself, you can't lead others very well."

The Challenge of Letting Go (13:37–16:56) * Why control is tempting but unsustainable for growth * Long-term vision motivates delegation * Media/marketing was Jake's original specialty and the hardest area for him to delegate to Matt * Over time, Matt learned Jake's standards and expectations * Hiring people who are better than you in specific areas

Real Examples:

Chris installs, rigs, mounts, and runs cable better than Jake
Spencer models and drafts 3D spaces faster in Vectorworks
James creates better schematics

Senior Leader Principle: Leaders should understand all departments without controlling them. Spend a few hours learning the basics so you can make informed decisions about major investments.

Church Application: Senior pastors should take Churchfront courses (a couple half-days) to be more informed than most lead pastors when making major AV decisions.

Key Quote: "I'm motivated by the long-term vision of where this is going and how big the organization has to go that I'm just like, 'Yeah, I don't need to control everything. I don't want that life where I feel like I have to because I'm just going to be miserable about that.'"

Present Leadership Without Micromanaging (17:46–19:40) * Weekly team meetings where everyone shares what they're working on * Asking: "What did you do last week?" and "What are you working on this week?" (3–10 minutes) * Five minutes with each team member can make a huge impact * Being present builds trust across the org chart * Service businesses succeed based on team health and performance * Jake shifted from solo productivity to supporting team members

Key Quote: "That five minutes of interaction with one of your team members a week, no matter where they're at in the org chart, goes a long way because they're like, 'Oh wow, our senior leader knows me. I can trust him.'"

High-Leverage Activities (19:50–23:16) Definition of leverage: low input, high output—like a tool that multiplies your strength.

What Jake focuses on now:

Pre-design client conversations — 2–3 hours per project that sets the trajectory for large-budget projects (using Wonder/Invention/Visionary strengths)
Media creation — 30 minutes to a few hours can reach thousands (what built Churchfront over 8–10 years)
Leader development — multiplication only happens as the team grows from 10+ toward 20–30

For church leaders:

Sunday preaching — communication at scale (in-person and online)
Developing other leaders — especially in areas where you're less gifted

Key Quote: "What can I put lower input into and gives me high output? That's what a lever or a tool is."

Leadership Evolution (23:23–25:23) John Maxwell's Five Levels of Leadership (applied):

Position — title alone (doesn't get you much)
Permission — relationships; people give you permission to lead
Productivity — "Follow me because I produce results" (how Churchfront started)
Leader development — "Follow me because I'll equip you to lead others" (current focus)
Multiplication — creating leaders who create leaders

Jake's journey:

2016: solo entrepreneur and highly productive individual
Read leadership books and understood the growth track
Started with productivity to get things off the ground
With 10 people (and aiming for 20–30), he must focus on leader development to reach multiplication

Key Insight: Leadership maturity means realizing it's more people-focused than anything else.

Advice to 2016 Jake (25:44–28:06) What Jake would tell his younger self:

"Buy more Bitcoin" (half-joking)
With what he knows now, he could do in 2–3 years what took 10
But he wouldn't rush it—focus on the journey
Be a man of good character
Follow God
Keep sustainable work-life balance
Care for spouse and kids
Don't rush—God multiplies right inputs into massive outputs
Seek wise counsel on business strategy and online marketing
Show up and do the work every day

For young 20-somethings Jake mentors:

Focus on self-leadership and the basics
Better strategies exist—learn from wise voices
Put in consistent daily work
People don't see the late-night edits and behind-the-scenes grind

Key Quote: "A lot of people see Churchfront and they're like, 'Wow, it's like 300,000 subscribers. It's a decent sized little business growing a lot.' It's like, yeah, that's after eight to 10 years of just showing up and doing it every single day."

Main Themes Don't Throw the Baby Out with the Bathwater As church culture shifts away from overly corporate/produced approaches back toward authenticity, it's still worth keeping the leadership lessons that help organizations run well—especially because leadership often isn't taught deeply in Bible school contexts.

Parallels Between Business and Church Leadership Churchfront is a Christian business that prays before meetings and focuses on serving the local church. The leadership principles Jake uses translate directly to church staff leadership, especially for teams of 5–15.

The Secret Sauce In service businesses (and churches), the team and people are the product. That's why leader development and team health matter so much.

Natural Progression Growth happens in stages. Jake went from being intimidated by the idea of 10 staff members to progressing through each hire and stage—each step building confidence for the next.

Practical Takeaways for Church Leaders 1. Clarify your vision first—mission, vision, and core values you return to weekly 2. Hire A-players only—take time, use assessments, and get team input 3. Build decision-making systems so your team can solve problems without you 4. Stay present without micromanaging—even five minutes per person per week helps 5. Focus on high-leverage activities—preaching, leader development, strategic decisions 6. Understand all departments without needing to control them 7. Invest in education—leaders should understand the basics of major spending areas 8. Progress through leadership levels—from productivity to multiplication 9. Prioritize character and self-leadership—in yourself and the people you hire 10. Think long-term—consistent daily effort over 8–10 years creates remarkable results

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Carey Nieuwhof Interview - Podcast Notes Overview Conversation with Carey Nieuwhof about the shift in modern church worship from entertainment-focused to encounter-focused experiences, live streaming strategy, and church growth in the digital age.

Key Themes 1. The Shift: Entertainment vs. Encounter The Problem with Modern Church Production

Social media created a "copycat phase" where churches could suddenly see what megachurches were doing
Churches adopted same equipment, same songs, same production values
What was unique became ubiquitous - "we all became copies of each other"
Gen Z is "the most marketed to generation in human history" and numb to production

Quote: "Gen Z is the most marketed to generation in human history. And we're all kind of numb to the production. I don't think people are looking for hype. They're looking for hope."

What People Actually Want

Something real and tangible
An experience of God, not just information about God
Presence, not just presentation
Transformation over information

The Internet's Limitation

Really good at delivering information (especially with AI)
Cannot facilitate an encounter
"There's something that happens in the room that doesn't happen online"
What "Encounter Over Entertainment" Looks Like The Tonal Shift
Worship leaders being more sensitive to what's happening in the room, not just rehearsed transitions
Preachers leaving space, not just hitting time marks
Paying attention to what God might be doing (people crying, leaning in, visible reactions)
Creating space to breathe

Silence and Space

"When I started in ministry, my goal was to get rid of as much silence in church as I could"
Now: "Where else are you going to get silence? You don't get it unless you're in church"
Don't have to fill every moment with words
Can be silent or "noodle" on instruments while creating space

Quote: "People's lives are so noisy and so crowded. I mean, we don't even sleep without white noise machines or anything like that. So where else are you going to get silence?"

Evoke vs. Manipulate

Can't plan a revival - it happens or it doesn't
Job is to "set the table" and make space for the Holy Spirit
Example: Great movies evoke genuine tears by accessing real emotions
Cheap manipulation feels different

Quote: "It's not our job as Christians to manipulate. It's our job possibly to evoke, to say, 'I'm going to set the table. I can't control the Holy Spirit.'"

The Liturgy Issue Modern Church is "Liturgically Malnourished"
Liturgy = order of service (not an outdated term)
Modern church handles joy and praise well
Missing: contemplation, confession, lamentation, reflection
Lost practices: prayers of confession, prayers of the people

Carey's Confession

Presbyterian background included prayers of approach and confession
As church became attractional, prayer became "just an opportunity to clear the set for the sermon"
Regrets thin prayers: "God, it's so good to be here today. We thank you so much. Amen."

Quote: "It's like confess your sins to one another and you will be healed. We don't do that anymore. What if we did that?"

Not Either/Or, But Both/And

Keep good lighting, sound, production, and musicians who can play
Add breathing room, texture, color, tone, mood
Use liturgical calendar and historic practices adapted to modern context
Don't approach Sunday as "slots to fill"

Creative Freedom

52 Sundays = 52 blank canvases
Already do this well at Easter and Christmas
Can be more creative without confusing people

Example: Good Friday Service

Ended in darkness with no announcement
Faded to black and stayed there
People sat in uncomfortable silence, then slowly left
"I wanted them to feel that discomfort... if you can even get a small sampling of that"
Easter Sunday picked up in darkness, then sunrise/resurrection
Live Streaming Strategy Who Should Live Stream?
Not every church needs to live stream everything
Need good musicians to sound great online (around 400-500 attendance to have talent base)
Need separate mix for online vs. in-house
Poor production = "school play" - only interesting to those directly involved

Quote: "A lot of churches, and these are well-meaning, beautiful Christian people. If you don't have the talent in production or in worship, you sound like a school play."

Alternatives

Stream just the message
On-demand after, mixed in post-production
Audio only if video isn't good
Consider what strangers stumbling on feed would think

The Discovery Argument

Pre-COVID minority of churches streamed
Now "everybody you want to reach is online"
"All of non-Christian America, all the nuns, all the duns, all the atheists, all the agnostics, they're on the internet"
Can't remember last time truly unchurched person hadn't watched online for weeks/months before visiting

The New Foyer

Online is now the foyer, not the physical lobby
People investigate online before visiting
By the time they show up, they're ready to go "further, faster"
"They've already done their investigating. They've already asked ChatGPT all the questions"
Practical Service Design Handling Growth Pressure
Multiple services create pressure to program everything tightly
Solution: Trim 5 minutes from sermon
Do 60-minute service with breathing room between
Create more lobby/connection space
Leverage outdoor space (if climate allows)

Worship Set Strategy

Don't need extended mix of everything
Maybe two songs and a tag instead of three full songs
"Sit in the tag for a while"
Find the high-impact moments (example: bridge of "How Great Is Our God")
Get to what matters, like talent shows do 90-second versions

Quote: "You don't have to do the extended mix of everything, the seven minute version, do the tag. That would be great. Space is something that you can do in three minutes if you know how to do it well."

Service Flow Examples

Don't make people stand and greet (where else does that happen?)
Have emotionally intelligent people on doors, not just available people
Greet people the way THEY want to be greeted
Consider kids moments, announcements, communion as natural transitions
Call to commitment/involvement comes sooner now than 10 years ago
Online Presence Best Practices Website Design
Design for new people first
Show service times and location prominently (mobile friendly)
Staff page is #3 most viewed - people want to see "are there people like me?"
Use accurate photos (don't show 27-year-olds if congregation is 70+)
Show actual diversity if you have it

Quote (Seth Godin): "Culture is people like us do things like this. So what people are looking for, are there people like us?"

Content Strategy

Lead with best sermons, not just latest
Most popular videos should be easy to find
People don't care if it's from 2 years ago (still watching The Office)
Have robust FAQ section for unchurched questions
Position yourself for lost people, not just members
The Current Moment The Harvest is Ripe
People are seeking more than maybe in past decade or two
Culture is saturated with production - not the competitive edge anymore
Mental health crisis caused by social media
People desperate for something real

What to Do

Pray for it (spiritual activity)
Make newcomer journey easy
Take them somewhere when they show up
Go deeper faster - they're ready

Quote: "People come to church looking to find God, but sometimes all they find is us. They found a really cool song, they found a really great message, but they didn't actually find God in the midst of it."

Give Them Meat

Reference to Tara-Lee Cobble and The Bible Recap
Provide historical context (helps Christians AND non-Christians)
Don't be afraid to go deep on sin, gospel, redemption
Write/speak in accessible "street Greek" like the New Testament

Example Opening: "Hey, we're going back 3000 years. And there was a guy named David who was King of Israel. He was trying to keep the kingdom united because there was a north and a south. You can relate to that. These are divided times..."

Quote (Tim Keller): "It's worse than you can possibly imagine and better than you can possibly dream."

Leadership Advice For Young Church Staff (25-40)

Navigating Frustration with Leadership

Write down actual issues you're facing (budget, staffing, expertise)
Present respectfully, thoughtfully, submissively
Good leaders will either provide resources or adjust priorities

Identifying Toxic Culture

Unrealistic expectations
Unsympathetic to staff needs
Expects 60-hour weeks with no life
Toxic leader will get mad/defensive when approached

Options in Toxic Environment

Respectfully approach and share difficulties
Accept the glass ceiling and stay
Build healthy team within unhealthy body (temporary solution)
Leave - "unhealthy bodies drive out healthy cells"

Interview Questions for New Positions

Ask to talk to current staff (not the pastor)
Ask to talk to FORMER staff
Find out who left and why
Read Google reviews
Have meals/experiences together (reveals character under pressure)

Quote: "Ask around, ask if you have permission. Don't ask the pastor. Don't ask the pastor. Are you healthy? The toxic people, 'I'm so healthy.'"

Team Building & Growth Hiring Philosophy
Only hire A players
C players: you know immediately (late, unmotivated, incomplete work) - should be gone
B players: good but not great - "it's too bad but we'll survive"
A players: if they quit you'd need 3 people to replace them

Quote (Netflix): "Adequate performance gets you a generous severance package."

A Player Test If they knocked on the door saying "this is my last day," how do you react?

C player: "Thank goodness, now I don't have to fire them"
B player: "Too bad but we'll survive"
A player: "Grabbing the waste basket and throwing up"

Growth Wisdom

Don't settle on staff because you're panicking
Will eventually become bloated with no profit
Profit = "permission to do this again tomorrow" (Seth Godin)
Most businesses fail not from lack of vision but lack of cash
Use tools like Working Genius to find right fit
Don't just find A players - find A players with gifts your team needs

Cultural Values

Write them down and review regularly
Ritz-Carlton: 26 values, reviewed 2-3 daily in team meetings
Use to evaluate: "Where are we winning/losing with our values?"
Catch team members exemplifying values
Values help instill culture as org chart grows
Upcoming Projects Carey's New Book
Topic: AI and the Future Church
Thesis: "As the world becomes more artificial, we need to become more human as Christians"
Church's future direction is human connection
Expected publication: 2026

Latest Book

"At Your Best" - about time, energy, and priorities

Notable Statistics & Data Points * 72% of teenagers have tried AI chatbots * 31% prefer AI companionship to human companions * Pre-COVID: minority of churches streamed services * Can't recall single unchurched person who didn't watch online for weeks/months before visiting * Around 400-500 attendance: churches start having talent base for good production * 80-95% of church growth in America is conversion growth (not transfer) * Top 3 website pages: Homepage, Messages, Staff/About

Production Quality Basics Good Enough to Stream

Great singing (doesn't need to be phenomenal)
Decent lights
Pretty good mix
Can work with church of 150-200 with good coaching
Everything else can be helped with technology

Bare Minimum

Great guitarist + great vocalist = "off to the races"
Don't feel pressure to have full mediocre band
Add musicians as you find/afford great ones

Practical Takeaways 1. Create space in services - silence, breathing room, sensitivity to the room 2. Recover lost liturgical practices - confession, lamentation, contemplation 3. Go deeper faster - people are ready for meat, not just milk 4. Design for online discovery - unchurched people are investigating you 5. Lead with best content - not just latest content 6. Only hire A players - don't panic hire when growing 7. Build real human connection - counter to increasingly artificial world 8. Make newcomer journey easy - they're ready to engage quickly 9. Be creative with 52 Sundays - not just slots to fill 10. Focus on encounter over entertainment - production supports experience, doesn't replace it

Questions for Further Reflection * How can we create more space for confession in our services? * What would it look like to "evoke" rather than "manipulate" in worship? * Are we positioning our online presence for unchurched discovery? * Is our production supporting encounter or replacing it? * What emotions are people carrying into our services, and how do we acknowledge that? * Are we moving too fast for the Holy Spirit to work?

Memorable Quotes "I don't think people are looking for hype. They're looking for hope."

"People aren't looking for more information. They're looking for presence, not just presentation."

"The internet is really good at information, especially with AI. You want to know anything, you can find out anything, but the internet can't really facilitate an encounter."

"It's not our job as Christians to manipulate. It's our job possibly to evoke."

"Where else are you going to get silence? You don't get it unless you're in church."

"If you don't have the talent in production or in worship, you sound like a school play."

"Everybody you want to reach is online."

"Your foyer has moved online."

"People come to church looking to find God, but sometimes all they find is us."

"As the world becomes more artificial, we need to become more human as Christians."

"Adequate performance gets you a generous severance package."

"Profit is permission to do this again tomorrow."

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Episode Title The Surprising Connection Between Online Views and Church Growth

Episode Description Matt and Jake dive into The Unstuck Group's Q3 2025 report analyzing 252 churches to uncover surprising connections between worship style, online streaming, and church growth. Discover why declining churches juggle multiple worship styles, how online views predict growth, and why the cost barrier for quality streaming has never been lower.

Key Takeaways * 76% of surveyed churches now focus on modern/contemporary worship only * Churches with multiple worship styles are more likely to be declining * 96% of churches now offer online services (up from ~20% pre-COVID) * Online views are a lead indicator for church growth * 40% of online church viewers are first-time visitors * The broadcast section is typically the smallest part of AV budgets * Audio quality matters more than video quality for streaming

Guest/Host Info Hosts: Jake Gosselin and Matt Woltjer from Churchfront

Timestamps 0:00 Introduction: The Unstuck Group Q3 2025 Report Overview 1:11 76% of Churches Now Offer Only Modern/Contemporary Worship 3:52 Declining Churches Juggle Multiple Worship Styles 6:07 Living in the Tension: Traditional vs. Contemporary 7:42 Excellence in Worship - Both Styles Can Work 10:12 Vision is Essential - Don't Lead What You Don't Believe In 12:02 Your Space Dictates Your Style Limitations 14:09 Contemporary Worship = More Online Engagement 15:51 96% of Churches Now Offer Online Services 17:01 The Cost of Broadcasting Has Decreased Dramatically 19:36 Online Streaming Doesn't Hurt In-Person Attendance 20:47 Online Views as a Lead Indicator for Growth 22:50 40% of Online Viewers are First-Time Visitors 23:07 Audio First - The Key to Quality Streaming

Resources Mentioned * The Unstuck Group Q3 2025 Report * ChurchTechToday * Gitnux * First Baptist Melbourne (traditional excellence example) * Elevation Church (contemporary excellence example) * Rock Harbor Church (historical building renovation example)

Discussion Questions for Church Leaders 1. Does your church currently offer multiple worship styles? What challenges has that created? 2. How can your church pursue unity while honoring different generational preferences? 3. If you're not currently streaming, what barriers are holding you back? 4. How can you improve your online presence as a "front door" for visitors?

Action Steps 1. Review your church's online metrics - are views increasing or decreasing? 2. Assess whether multiple worship styles are helping or hindering unity 3. Evaluate your streaming setup - is audio quality your top priority? 4. Consider how your building design supports or limits your worship style goals

Social Media Pull Quotes 1. "Churches trying to maintain multiple worship styles are much more likely to be declining. It's not about one style being better—it's about strategic leadership." - Jake & Matt 2. "96% of churches now stream online, and here's the kicker: online views are a lead indicator for growth. If your views are increasing, you're likely a growing church." - Jake & Matt 3. "People will watch bad video with good audio, but they won't watch bad audio with good video. Audio first, always." - Matt Woltjer 4. "Your online stream isn't competing with in-person attendance—it's your front door. 40% of online viewers are first-time visitors researching your church." - Jake Gosselin 5. "The worship wars are over. Now it's time to be one church with one vision, not two churches meeting in the same building." - Jake & Matt

Episode Tags #ChurchGrowth #WorshipStyle #LiveStreaming #ChurchTechnology #TheUnstuckGroup #ContemporaryWorship #TraditionalWorship #ChurchAV #OnlineChurch #ChurchLeadership

Production Notes * Include link to The Unstuck Group report in description * Add affiliate disclosure if applicable * Consider creating supplementary graphics showing the key statistics * Potential follow-up: Interview with The Unstuck Group team about their methodology

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Podcast Show Notes: The Future of Church Leadership with Josh Howerton and Chris Kuti Guests: Josh Howerton (Senior Pastor) and Chris Kuti (Worship Pastor) from LakePoint Church Hosts: Jake Gosselin and Matt Woltjer from Churchfront

Key Topics Discussed AI in Ministry (00:02:15) * Josh's approach: Uses ChatGPT weekly for sermon prep as a "high-powered research assistant" * Prompt strategy: "Give me 20 interesting facts about [passage] that are historical, cultural, theological, archeological, linguistic, or biblical that most Christians wouldn't know" * Chris's usage: Meeting organization, content creation, voice conversations during drives * Key principle: Use AI as a tool that serves you, don't serve the tool * Important caveat: Always fact-check AI outputs - they can be wrong up to 17% of the time

Church Technology Criticism (00:58:22) * The "negative world" concept by Aaron Renn - cultural shift from positive to neutral to negative perception of Christianity * Common criticisms: "Tax the churches," "Money should go to the poor" * Biblical response: Only Judas complained about expensive things being used to honor Jesus * Economic reality: Larger churches often spend lower percentages on tech than smaller churches due to economy of scale * Technology costs: Modern equipment costs significantly less than in the early 2000s

Social Media Strategy (00:12:38) * Initial resistance: Reformed background's "theologized cynicism" toward self-promotion * The turning point: People spend 16-18 hours/week on social media hearing secular perspectives * "Air war vs. Ground war": Ground war = traditional discipleship, Air war = cultural engagement * Digital Areopagus: Social media as the modern equivalent of where Paul engaged culture in Athens * Current following growth: From 20-40k to significantly larger audience through strategic content

Worship Pastor Turnover Crisis (01:26:06) * Root causes identified: + Getting into ministry for wrong reasons (seeking bigger stages/record deals) + Senior pastors hiring for talent over pastoral gifting + Lack of pastoral development and broader leadership responsibilities + "Warm up the crowd" mentality rather than true pastoral partnership * Solutions proposed: + Hire character first, develop competency + Give worship pastors genuine pastoral responsibilities + Focus on being pastors who happen to use music + Create long-term development paths

Hiring and Leadership Development (00:36:29) * Key principle: "Always bet on leadership" over pure talent * Character evaluation: Look at family life as indicator of leadership capacity * "Hire slow, fire fast" - don't ignore red flags in interviews * Vision alignment: Ensure worship leaders can come under senior pastor's vision * Josh's story: Had to fire a worship leader after 5 weeks for vision misalignment

Succession Planning (00:45:13) * LakePoint's success factors: + Outgoing pastor (Steve Stroop) "left campground clean" - addressed problems before transition + Incoming pastor honored what came before rather than dismissing it + 70% credit to predecessor, 30% to successor for smooth transition * Key advice for incoming leaders: + Honor those who built what you inherited + Watch your pace in first year - observe more than you act + Win relationships and excel on stage + Don't make major changes without building equity first

Staying Humble While Growing (00:52:54) * Key relationships: Spouse who believes in you but isn't impressed by you * Hire up: Surround yourself with people more talented than you * Find joy in others' wins: Move from taking all the shots to giving others opportunities * Dave Stone's wisdom: "Don't let praise go to your head, don't let criticism go to your heart" * Josh's perspective: Staying confident is often harder than staying humble

Future Ministry Vision (01:08:27) * Chris's focus: Leadership pipeline development - never having to post job openings * Josh's project: "Discipleship at scale" through vertically aligned content delivery * Core principle: "We're in the disciple business, not the events business" * Technology integration: Purpose-built app to connect sermon, podcast, reading plans, and groups

Quotable Moments "If you find yourself on team Judas, get a different team." - Josh on criticizing church spending

"Two visions create division." - Chris on worship pastor alignment

"Don't let praise go to your head and don't let criticism go to your heart." - Dave Stone's advice

"We're not in the events business, we're in the disciple business." - Josh on ministry focus

"The loudest boos come from the cheapest seats." - Josh on handling criticism

Action Items for Church Leaders 1. Experiment with AI as a research and content creation tool while maintaining proper oversight 2. Evaluate your hiring process - prioritize character and leadership potential over pure talent 3. Assess succession planning - are you preparing for healthy transitions? 4. Review social media strategy - consider it as cultural engagement rather than self-promotion 5. Examine technology spending through economy of scale lens rather than raw dollar amounts 6. Develop internal leadership pipelines rather than constantly hiring externally 7. Align all ministry elements toward discipleship rather than just events

Resources Mentioned * ChatGPT/Grok for AI assistance * Stream Deck for video production control * Canon C80 cameras for podcast production * Aaron Renn's "Negative World" essay * Apple Maps analogy for leadership transitions

Connect with Guests * LakePoint Church: [Church website/social media] * Josh Howerton: [Social media handles] * Chris Kuti: [Social media handles]

This episode was recorded at LakePoint Church's broadcast studio. Special thanks to Blaine for the viral video content and Carlos for the social media strategy insights mentioned during the conversation.

Podcast Notes - Jesus Image Church Construction Discussion Episode Overview Jake and Matt discuss Jesus Image Church's impressive $44 million building project in Orlando, featuring traditional Gothic-inspired architecture and innovative tilt-up construction techniques.

Key Discussion Points Traditional Church Architecture Revival * Jesus Image Church building actually looks like a church (rare in modern construction) * Gothic architecture elements with arched windows * Stone facade reminiscent of historical church construction * Departure from typical strip mall/warehouse church designs

Tilt-Up Construction Technique * Industrial/commercial construction method adapted for church use * Process: Pour concrete walls as slabs on ground → Frame windows/openings → Let cure → Use cranes to tilt walls into position * Much faster than traditional masonry (decades vs. weeks) * Requires expensive crane equipment but overall more efficient than historical cathedral construction

Project Scale & Phasing * Phase 1: $28.6 million, 56,000 square feet * Phase 2: Additional $16 million expansion * Total Investment: $44+ million * Smart phased approach allows use of Phase 1 while planning/fundraising for Phase 2 * Simpler sanctuary design in Phase 1, enhanced sanctuary in Phase 2

Jesus Image Church Context * Known for charismatic, powerful ministry style * Innovative in ministry approach, now extending to architecture * Multiple ministries: worship, ministry school, prayer ministry * Heavy building usage beyond Sunday services justifies investment

Architecture Philosophy Discussion * Modern churches often designed for easy conversion (school, gym, commercial use) * Jesus Image building will "never be anything but a church" * Debate: Cost-effectiveness vs. purpose-built sacred spaces * Traditional approach: building took centuries, but created lasting landmarks * Architecture's role in facilitating impactful worship experiences

Budget Reality Check * $44 million not accessible to most churches * Equipment costs (cranes) vs. long-term construction savings * Question of whether traditional design is worth the premium cost * Comparison to strip mall churches and pragmatic building approaches

Ministry Integration * Building supports multiple ministry functions * Architecture chosen to complement their charismatic worship style * Investment in excellence across all ministry aspects * Physical space designed to enhance spiritual encounters

Quotes & Notable Moments Jake: "It's almost got like a gothic architecture look to it with those arched windows."

Matt: "They're not building a lot of our modern church buildings. If the church closed, the building would be quickly taken up by someone else that's not a church... But this is never going to be anything but a church."

Jake: "I think we're missing out on the power of architecture to support and facilitate impactful worship."

Takeaways * Traditional church architecture is making a comeback in some circles * Modern construction techniques can make historical designs more feasible * Phased construction allows ambitious projects without overextending * Purpose-built worship spaces vs. multi-use flexibility is an ongoing debate * Architecture can be a ministry tool, not just a practical necessity

Future Content Ideas * Tech tour of Jesus Image when construction is complete * Comparison series: Traditional vs. Modern church architecture * Construction technique deep-dives for church building projects * Budget-friendly ways to incorporate traditional design elements

Action Items * Plan potential visit to Jesus Image Church construction site * Research other churches using similar traditional design approaches * Investigate cost comparisons between construction methods

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Podcast Episode Notes: Choosing Church Broadcast Audio Systems Episode Overview Discussion about switching from Logic Pro to other broadcast audio solutions including Waves LV1, Studio One, and Pro Tools for church live streaming applications.

Key Participants * Jake Gosselin - Host/Audio Expert * Matt Woltjer - Audio Engineer/Consultant

Main Topics Covered Current Industry Setup * Most professionals using matrix mix from LV1 systems for broadcast * Common approach: dedicated matrix send from main front-of-house mix * Requires ongoing attention to maintain quality

Logic Pro Issues Identified Primary Problem: Time Drift

Logic Pro gradually falls behind video stream
Can drift up to 2+ seconds behind actual video
Creates major sync issues for live streaming
Problem appears unique to Logic Pro

Design Limitations

Logic Pro optimized for studio recording, not live applications
Apple's development priorities focus on studio use
Pricing model ($200 for 18+ years) indicates different revenue focus

Alternative DAW Options Ableton Live & Pro Tools

No reported time drift issues
Better suited for live applications
More reliable for broadcast mixing

Waves LV1 System

Purpose-built for live mixing
Hardware controller integration
Superior plugin processing
Most expensive but most reliable option

System Integration Challenges Hardware Requirements

Allen & Heath SQ: Requires Waves interface cards
Dante Systems: Need Dante Wave Sound Bridge (~$3,000)
LV1 Options:
- Classic (most expensive, full features)
- One C Compact (budget option, limited processing)
- Proton Duo (insufficient for full mix)

Critical Decision Factors Budget Considerations

LV1 systems: $10,000+ for complete setup
Additional hardware costs often overlooked
Integration complexity increases total cost

Staffing Reality Check

Many churches: 1-2 experienced engineers, 2-3 learning operators
Common mistake: Experienced on FOH, beginners on broadcast
Results in expensive equipment producing poor mixes

Fundamental Issues First

Acoustic treatment more impactful than equipment upgrades
Proper PA tuning essential before broadcast considerations
Secondary console improves mix quality only 2-5%
Room acoustics can transform entire sound

Professional Recommendations When to Choose Matrix Mix:

Small to midsize churches
Limited experienced staff
Budget constraints
Desire for consistency and reliability

When to Consider LV1:

Dedicated broadcast mixing staff
Sufficient budget for complete system
Acoustics and PA already optimized
Need for advanced plugin processing

Questions to Ask Before Upgrading:

What specific problems are you solving?
Do you have dedicated, experienced broadcast staff?
Are fundamental acoustic/PA issues addressed?
What's your complete system budget?
How complex is your current audio routing?

Real-World Case Study Recent consultation example:

Church requesting lighting upgrades without understanding lighting theory
Eight BLX wireless systems failing across multiple rooms
Recommended: Learn fundamentals before spending money
Upgrade to antenna-capable systems for multi-room use

Key Takeaways Equipment Isn't Always the Answer

Master current equipment before upgrading
Address fundamental issues (acoustics, tuning) first
Proper operation often more important than specific hardware

Context is Critical

Every church situation is unique
Professional consultation recommended
Holistic system assessment necessary
Strategic upgrade planning prevents expensive mistakes

Success Factors

Experienced operation
Proper implementation
Fundamental acoustic treatment
Realistic budget and expectations

Action Items for Listeners 1. Assess current system holistically before planning upgrades 2. Prioritize acoustic treatment and PA tuning 3. Evaluate staff experience and availability 4. Consider professional consultation for complex decisions 5. Focus on mastering current equipment capabilities

Resources Mentioned * Church Front premium membership for professional consultation * Professional coaching calls available * Community recommendations for Studio One and Pro Tools

Next Steps for Churches * Evaluate specific broadcast mixing challenges * Consider matrix mix optimization before new systems * Plan strategic upgrade path with professional guidance * Address fundamental issues before equipment purchases

Episode Duration: ~10 minutes Topic: Church Audio Technology Audience: Church technical teams, audio engineers, ministry leaders

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Podcast Episode Notes: Church Live Streaming Reality Check Episode Overview Matt and Jake react to Pro Church Tools' recent discussion about the current state of online church, diving deep into questions about quality, purpose, and audience for church live streaming in 2025.

Key Topics Covered The Quality vs. Accessibility Debate * Pro Church Tools' Position: High-quality livestreams require dedicated mixing boards and professional expertise that most churches lack * Matt & Jake's Pushback: 85-95% quality is achievable with proper fundamentals and doesn't require professional-level resources * The Real Issue: Sometimes poor livestream quality stems from poor source material (musicianship, room acoustics)

The Hard Truth About Audio Quality * Matt's Honest Take: "Your livestream mix is not good because your musicians are not good" * The Growth Mindset: Every great musician started as a not-so-great musician * Foundation First: Master musicianship, room acoustics, and basic mixing before investing in expensive gear

Who's Actually Watching Your Stream? * Key Statistic: 35% of online church attenders are retirement age (12 points above average) * Implications for Ministry: Need to consider accessibility, content relevance, and viewing habits * Snowbird Effect: Many older viewers are traveling members staying connected to home church

The Purpose Question What are we streaming for?

Marketing tool for church visitors
Connection for homebound members
Seasonal/traveling member engagement
Accessibility for those who can't attend in person

Production Philosophy * Start with fundamentals: Musicianship, room acoustics, basic mixing skills, proper lighting * Avoid the gear trap: Don't buy expensive equipment without mastering the basics * Quality target: Aim for "good enough" that serves your actual audience, not "perfect" that impresses other tech people

Notable Quotes Jake: "You can compress a jackhammer, but it's still going to sound like a jackhammer."

Matt: "If you're the sound guy trying to get an online mix that sounds good from a band that doesn't sound good in house, then good luck."

Jake: "There's something magical that happens when you're in person in the room at worship every Sunday."

Matt: "The top four pages on church websites are always: homepage, about us, staff, and livestream."

Action Items for Churches 1. Audit your fundamentals before investing in new gear 2. Understand your actual livestream audience (hint: it might be older than you think) 3. Optimize for accessibility - text size, audio levels, clear announcements 4. Invest in musical training for your team 5. Remember the goal: Complement, don't compete with, in-person worship

Tools & Resources Mentioned * Waves Real Tune plugin for pitch correction * Importance of proper room acoustics * Front-of-house mixing consoles for dual-purpose mixing * Website analytics for understanding visitor behavior

Discussion Questions * Who is your church's livestream actually serving? * Are you starting with the right foundational skills? * How do you balance quality aspirations with realistic resource constraints? * What role should livestreaming play in your overall ministry strategy?

Related Topics for Future Episodes * Room acoustics basics for churches * Building a volunteer tech team * Church website optimization * Generational differences in worship preferences * Cost-effective lighting solutions for churches

This episode was a reaction to Pro Church Tools' video about online church. While we respectfully disagree on some technical points, we appreciate Brady and Alex for raising these important strategic questions about church technology.

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Church Front Worship and Tech Podcast - Episode with Joey Parish Guest: Joey Parish - Founder of Parish Drums Episode Description Join us for an in-depth conversation with Joey Parish, founder of Parish Drums and longtime touring drummer with Chris Tomlin and Shane & Shane. Discover how one drummer's need for portable gear led to a complete rethinking of drums designed specifically for worship contexts. From canvas drum heads to brush techniques, Joey shares practical insights for worship teams looking to solve volume and space challenges.

Key Topics Covered Joey's Background * Started playing in church in 5th/6th grade with a pawn shop drum kit * Early touring with Chris Tomlin (the "little east Texas guy in a cowboy hat") * Years on the road with Shane & Shane, learning nuanced, acoustic-focused drumming * Transition from bus tours to flying and the birth of Parish Drums

The Parish Drums Innovation * The Problem: Need for consistent, portable drums for fly dates * The Research: Existing portable kits were too heavy (70+ lbs without cases) * The Solution: Custom-built nesting kit under 50 lbs, fits in airline luggage * Evolution: From 14" bass drum to current 18" bass drum design

Design Philosophy * Wood Choices: Mahogany exterior, poplar interior (softer, less dense woods) * Bearing Edges: Rounded edges for less resonance and more control * Shell Depth: Shorter drums for quicker decay * Goal: "Dead, thumpy" drums that don't require extensive muffling

Revolutionary Canvas Heads * Patent Pending: First-of-its-kind cotton canvas drum heads * Benefits: Extremely quiet, removes high frequencies, maintains attack * Testing: Road-tested extensively during Shane & Shane Christmas tour * Sound: Natural muffling without sacrificing musical quality

Playing Techniques for Worship * Brush Advocacy: Nylon bristle brushes for volume control and articulation * Brush Development: Creating improved brushes to solve durability issues * Dynamic Range: Learning to play from whisper-quiet to full volume * Adaptability: Removing drums as needed to fit the room/moment

Practical Tips for Worship Drummers In-Ear Monitor Mixing * Counter-intuitive Tip: Turn problem instruments UP in your mix to naturally play softer * Simplification: Turn off crowd mics, choir mics to maintain timing focus * Click Track: Use plenty of click for solid timing foundation

Transitioning from Rock to Worship 1. Understand the Mission: Create an environment for corporate worship 2. Know the Songs: Learn originals thoroughly before adapting 3. Build Vocabulary: Play with different worship leaders to develop adaptability 4. Embrace Dynamics: Move beyond on/off playing to gradual dynamic shifts

Room Adaptation * Play the Room: Adjust setup and dynamics to fit the space * Less is More: Sometimes removing elements serves the music better * Acoustic Partnership: Leave space for other instruments to fill

Technical Insights Microphone Approaches * Versatility: Parish drums work well with any standard drum mics * Preference: Beta 98s on toms for wood hoop compatibility * Studio Standard: 421s on toms, large diaphragm dynamics on kick * Monitor Mix: Often removes bottom snare mic from personal mix for clarity

Drum Tuning and Setup * Locking Tension Rods: Maintain tuning stability during transport * Head Choices: Evans 56 Calftone (synthetic calfskin) for natural feel * Snare Wires: Uses 12-strand instead of typical 42-strand for volume control * Shell Materials: Prioritizes control over projection and resonance

Shane Bernard Collaboration Insights Musical Partnership * Extreme Dynamics: Shane plays from inaudible whisper to full volume * Percussive Approach: Shane thinks like a drummer on guitar * Negative Space: Musicians fill each other's gaps rather than competing * Real-time Adaptation: Shared musical language allows for spontaneous changes

Learning from a Master * Observation Period: Spent month doing sound before playing, learning the parts * Musical Vocabulary: Built understanding of Shane's musical thinking * Dynamic Response: Learned to match and complement extreme dynamic ranges

Business and Ministry Integration The Worship Initiative Partnership * Resource Support: Financial and operational backing for growth * Shared Mission: Equipping churches with better tools for worship * Content Creation: Part of comprehensive worship training platform

Church Applications * Volume Control: Primary solution for churches struggling with drum volume * Space Efficiency: Fits in corners, small stages, intimate settings * Aesthetic: Eliminates need for drum shields in many cases * Consistency: Same sound every service, regardless of room acoustics

Resources and Connect Parish Drums * Website: parishdrums.com * Innovation: Canvas heads and improved brush designs coming soon * Focus: Drums designed specifically for worship contexts

The Worship Initiative * Website: theworshipinitiative.com * Content: Songwriting, heart training, instrument training * Mission: Comprehensive worship leader development

Quotable Moments "I learned to do more with less. When you're touring with buses and trucks and trailers, you end up bringing more than you need... it really helped move me back to these are the fundamentals. This is man, you're here to keep time and occasionally do something interesting maybe."

"Every kit in every church is just covered in gaff tape and gels and big fat snare drum rings... So what I wanted to do was out of the box have just the dead, most dead thumpy drums with the least amount of resonance."

"If you just Google 'drum muffle,' you can just scroll for pages and pages and pages... everybody that I know in my whole career has been spent trying to tame frequencies, overtones, all that stuff."

"We want to sing together. We want to praise the Lord... We want to create an environment where that's the most possible."

Episode Length: Approximately 65 minutes Host: Luke Jackson Production: Church Front Worship and Tech Podcast

Podcast Notes: Interview with Carson Bruce of The Worship Keys Episode Overview In this episode of the Church Front Worship and Tech Podcast, Luke Jackson interviews Carson Bruce, founder of The Worship Keys platform—a resource dedicated to helping keys players in worship settings improve their skills and understanding of their role.

About Carson Bruce & The Worship Keys * Founder of The Worship Keys platform, which focuses on four main areas: music theory, gear/software, ministry, and industry * Classically trained pianist who now lives in Nashville * The Worship Keys podcast releases weekly on Wednesdays, featuring interviews with keys players

Origin Story * Carson created the platform because he "wished something like this existed" when he was younger * Piano has been central to his personal faith journey—often serving as his "prayer closet" * Noticed a gap in resources specifically for worship keys players

Essential Skills for Worship Pianists 1. Heart Posture: "If your heart is not in ministry...you're not going to stay on that stage satisfied" 2. Playing by Ear: Learning to listen and replicate what you hear is crucial 3. Nashville Number System: Understanding music theory through the number system 4. Ear Training: Practice playing unfamiliar worship songs by ear, then verify with chord charts 5. Focus on Fundamentals: Learn to play well before worrying about gear

Transitioning from Classical to Contemporary * Classical training often emphasizes sight-reading and technical precision * Worship contexts require playing by ear, improvisation, and band awareness * Many pianists struggle with this transition because the learning approaches are fundamentally different

Nashville Number System for Keys Players Despite some believing it's mainly useful for guitarists, Carson advocates for pianists using the Nashville Number System because:

It facilitates whole-band communication
Makes modulation easier
Numbers are quicker to call out than complex chord names
Works internationally across language barriers
Promotes collaboration rather than piano-centric leadership

Common Mistakes Worship Keys Players Make 1. Overplaying the Low End: Creates muddiness when there's already a bass player 2. Doing Too Much: Sometimes simplicity serves the song better 3. Playing Full Triads in Both Hands: Consider simpler voicings like fifths or suspended chords 4. Not Understanding Context: Different musical styles require different approaches

Technology Tips Software Options * MainStage: Good for Mac users, moderate learning curve * Ableton Live: Most powerful but steeper learning curve * Sunday Keys App: User-friendly iPad app with AI capabilities ($120)

Hardware Highlight * Atmosphere Pedal by Aerospace Audio: Physical pedal with high-quality atmospheric pads built in * Allows pianists to trigger pads without needing a computer on stage * Features 10 different pad sounds based on atmospheric layers * Small footprint allows it to be placed directly on the keyboard

Keys Players' Rigs Carson's typical setup includes:

Arturia KeyLab MIDI controller
MainStage software for sounds
Focusrite 18i20 interface when running tracks
Software from Sunday Sounds or Aerospace Audio for pads

Decision-Making for Keys Equipment Carson's advice:

If your keyboard works well, keep it and upgrade your sounds through software
Consider Sunday Keys app for simplicity and ease of use
MainStage for Mac users who want more control
Ableton Live for those willing to invest time in learning a comprehensive system
Use iPad apps when available to avoid complex computer setups

Sunday Keys App Highlights * Features AI-generated sounds based on text or emoji descriptions * Allows easy sharing of setlists between multiple campuses * Affordable one-time purchase with optional annual updates * Limitation: Cannot currently import custom-created patches

Artists That Inspire Carson * Red Rocks Worship (particularly Spooky Scott) * Elevation Rhythm (especially "Goodbye Yesterday") * The Ramp Worship from Hamilton, Alabama * Various gospel artists for technical inspiration

Connect with The Worship Keys * Instagram: @theworshipkeys * YouTube: The Worship Keys * Email: Carson@theworshipkeys.com

Key Quotes * "If you're not using the number system as a pianist, maybe you're not meaning to, but it's like you're trying to say one up almost." * "It's like buying a Lamborghini and driving it in first gear everywhere you go." * "The piano was once looked at as a secular instrument that you only play in the bars and the pubs, and then it was brought into the church and people had big problems with that." * "A lot of times they're asking you to do less in a full band context."

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Pastoring Your Congregation Through Worship with Ben Haley Episode Summary In this powerful session from the Church Front Conference, Ben Haley shares three essential foundations for effective worship ministry that truly shepherds congregations. Drawing from scripture and personal experience, Ben explains how worship leaders must know their hearts, know their Bibles, and know their people to lead worship that transforms lives.

Show Notes Key Timestamps * 00:00 - Opening quote and introduction * 00:59 - Ben shares the moving story of his father's final moments * 03:18 - The profound influence of worship music and responsibility it brings * 05:35 - What should be the foundation of worship ministry? * 06:37 - Foundation #1: Know your heart * 11:06 - Foundation #2: Know your Bible * 15:35 - Practical tips for selecting and using worship songs * 17:44 - Foundation #3: Know your people * 21:29 - The danger of prioritizing programs over people * 24:27 - Final encouragement to show off God's glory * 25:39 - Closing quote from Martyn Lloyd-Jones

Key Topics The Lasting Impact of Worship Songs * Ben's father, despite being sedated and on a ventilator, communicated "It is well with my soul" in his final moments * People rarely remember sermon details but often recall songs throughout their lives and even on their deathbeds * What we sing has a profound influence on us, creating great responsibility for worship leaders

Foundation #1: Know Your Heart * Reference to 1 Timothy 4 - "Watch your life and doctrine closely" * Cultural conditioning has led us to value competency over character * Ephesians 5:18-19 commands being filled with the Spirit before addressing singing * Many things can cause us to neglect our hearts: busy schedules, tasks, praise, or personal struggles * "If our ministries are to bless the congregations that we lead, then our ministries have to be led and staffed by people who know that we have a great need for Jesus."

Foundation #2: Know Your Bible * Compare Ephesians 5:18-19 with Colossians 3:16 - singing flows from being Spirit-filled and Word-filled * Technological and musical excellence alone don't make disciples * "What truly makes disciples is the Word of God revealed by His Holy Spirit in the hearts and minds of His people." * "The song book of a church is an indicator of that church's maturity." * People need biblically rich lyrics to help them through grief, shame, and cultural confusion

Practical Song Selection Guidelines * Songs should use biblical language and themes * Songs should be singable for the congregation * Find creative ways to incorporate Scripture into worship times (slides, readings, etc.) * Style preferences (old/new, simple/complex, upbeat/slow) are secondary to biblical content * "When your people are moved by a melody...make sure that what you are giving your people to sing is something worth singing from the Word."

Foundation #3: Know Your People * Ephesians 5 and Colossians 3 both emphasize singing "to one another" * Corporate worship is both vertical (to God) and horizontal (to each other) * We need each other's voices when we're struggling to worship * Practical implication: music shouldn't be so loud that congregants can't hear each other * "The church is Jesus's bride. These are his people. He cherishes them. He gave his life for them." * You can't shepherd people you don't know

The Ultimate Goal of Worship Ministry * Help people do what they were designed to do - worship God * Attempts to reform behavior or conform people to church culture will fail * "What you win people with is what you win them to." * "Use those instruments, use those melodies, use the soundboards, use the lighting controllers to show off God's glory, and give your people the kinds of songs that they will sing on their deathbeds."

Memorable Quotes "What we sing has a profound influence on us." - Ben Haley

"With great power comes great responsibility." - Ben Haley (quoting Uncle Ben from Spider-Man)

"We have been conditioned by our culture to value competency over character. We prefer platform over piety. We choose hype over holiness." - Ben Haley

"Great melodies don't make disciples. A brighter projector doesn't make disciples. An online service with better EQ doesn't make disciples." - Ben Haley

"The song book of a church is an indicator of that church's maturity." - Ben Haley

"Church music is not a one-way street from an individual to God. It's also something we do with each other and for each other." - Ben Haley

"Church leaders are not leaders of nobody. We are leaders of people." - Ben Haley

"I can forgive a man for a bad sermon...if he gives me some dim glimpse of the majesty and the glory of God, the love of Christ my savior, and the magnificence of the gospel." - Martyn Lloyd-Jones (quoted by Ben Haley)

Scripture References * 1 Timothy 4 - "Watch your life and doctrine closely" * Ephesians 5:18-19 - "Be filled with the Spirit, addressing one another in psalms and hymns and spiritual songs" * Colossians 3:16 - "Let the word of Christ dwell in you richly...singing psalms and hymns and spiritual songs" * Psalm 146 - "Praise the Lord, O my soul" * John 10 - Jesus knows his sheep and they know his voice

Resources Mentioned * Stephen Miller (author referenced regarding worship leadership) * Charles Spurgeon (quoted regarding personal worship) * Martyn Lloyd-Jones (quoted in opening and closing)

Next Steps For worship leaders and tech teams wanting to implement Ben's teaching:

Evaluate your personal worship habits and spiritual disciplines
Review your church's song selections for biblical content and singability
Make an effort to build deeper relationships with congregation members
Consider ways to incorporate more Scripture into your worship services

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Church Front Show - NAB 2025 & Church Architecture Insights Episode Summary Jake Gosselin shares his experience at the NAB (National Association of Broadcasters) Show 2025, highlighting innovative broadcast technology for churches. He and Matt Woltjer also discuss church architecture trends and why thoughtful building design matters for worship spaces.

Show Notes Timestamps * 0:08 - Welcome and introduction * 1:12 - Church Front hiring announcement * 5:28 - NAB Show 2025 overview * 6:43 - Hollyland cameras for vertical video * 7:12 - Lyntec power sequencing systems * 11:14 - Canon CR-N100 PTZ camera * 12:33 - Church Front's studio camera setup (CR-N500 & CR-N300) * 15:05 - Canon RC-IP1000 PTZ controller * 17:40 - Canon C400 cinema camera * 20:31 - Allen & Heath AHM matrix mixing system * 24:18 - DiGiCo Quantum mixing console * 25:39 - Blackmagic Design booth and new gear * 27:47 - SMPTE 2110 IP video protocol benefits * 32:16 - Blackmagic Pyxis 6K camera * 33:55 - ATEM Mini Extreme ISO G2 switcher * 36:01 - ATEM Constellation switchers * 41:02 - PTZOptics Hive Studio for remote camera operation * 42:07 - Meeting PTZOptics team * 43:07 - Santa Barbara church architecture discussion * 44:45 - Why modern churches favor utilitarian buildings * 48:15 - Economic factors affecting church construction * 52:49 - Revitalizing vs. building new facilities * 54:16 - Church growth strategies and building acquisition

Key Topics Church Front Job Opening * AVL Technician position available at Church Front (Melbourne, FL) * Apply at churchfront.com/avl-technician * Responsibilities include equipment rack assembly and system deployment

NAB Show Highlights Lyntec Power Sequencing

Integrates power sequencing into electrical panels
Offers motorized circuit breakers and remote control
Provides flexibility for system automation in new church builds

Canon Camera Technology

CR-N100: More affordable alternative to the CR-N300 (no SDI, but keeps NDI capability)
CR-N500: High-quality PTZ now used in Church Front studio
C400: Cinema camera alternative to the RED Komodo with Canon's color science and autofocus

Allen & Heath AHM

Matrix mixing system for simpler audio control
Perfect for events requiring basic microphone and playback functionality
Can bypass the main console for volunteer-friendly operation

Blackmagic Design Technology

SMPTE 2110 IP protocol for video distribution over CAT6 cables
Saves money compared to expensive 12G-SDI cabling ($2/foot)
Studio cameras with 10Gb ethernet for single-cable connectivity
Pyxis 6K camera at just $3,200

PTZOptics Hive Studio

Remote camera operation via internet
Allows volunteers to control cameras from home
Part of growing remote production trend

Church Architecture Discussion * Critique of modern "black box" utilitarian church buildings * Benefits of intentional, beautiful worship spaces * Economic factors (inflation) making quality construction more difficult * Strategies for church growth: + Acquiring existing church buildings + Building smaller (250-500 seats) beautiful spaces + Multi-site approach vs. single large campus * Community formation in different sized worship spaces

Resources Mentioned * Church Front Toolkit: churchfront.com/toolkit * Church Front job board: churchfront.com/job-board/ * Church Front Facebook Group (for discussions)

Connect With Church Front * Website: churchfront.com * Subscribe to the podcast on Spotify and other platforms

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Active Mixing - From Boring to Baller Episode Overview In this episode, Michael Curtis shares practical strategies for creating more engaging, dynamic worship mixes. Drawing from his background as a professional bass player and mixer, he explores how intentionality and specificity can transform "boring" mixes into creative, engaging experiences that better serve worship environments.

Time Stamps & Key Points Introduction [00:48] * Michael introduces the concept of "active mixing" versus boring mixing * The challenge: Moving beyond "it sounds fine" to creating engaging, dynamic mixes * Creativity as the antidote to boring mixing

Creativity Through Structure [01:41] * Biblical concept of creation: bringing order from formlessness * The playground analogy: Children with fenced playgrounds use 90% of the space vs. 30% without fences * "Sometimes what feels like a straight jacket is actually a Narnia closet" * Leadership through specificity and making finer distinctions

Strategies for Worship Pastors [05:52] * Prescriptive leadership can be valuable when appropriate + The progression from 10 Commandments (prescriptive) to Sermon on the Mount (descriptive) + Matching leadership style to team maturity level * Create "sit-down chords" - signals that create clear expectations + Setting up rhythms and cues that guide the worship team * Organize tracks by function, not just instrument: + Percussion: Rhythm-driving elements + Foundation: Bass and low-end elements + Filler: Pads and ambient elements + Leads: Melodic elements that guide congregation * Gamify growth paths for volunteers + Create progressive learning steps (like unlocking levels in a game) + Apply "arbitrary limits" that help beginners master fundamentals before moving on * Name and assign musical ownership + Clarify who owns each musical element at any given time + Consider adding a dedicated "music producer" position

Strategies for Musicians [12:36] * "Rhythm Randy needs a retirement party" + Moving beyond mindlessly strumming the chord chart + Playing a part rather than just playing the chart * Use the whole playground within boundaries + Finding creative ways to express within structure * Create "alley-oop" moments + Intentional handoffs between instruments + Setting up moments for other musicians to shine * Beware of "bedroom vacuums" + Sounds created in isolation often take up too much sonic space + Smaller sonic footprint needed in larger ensembles * Interesting is greater than good + Focus on creating compelling sounds, not just technically correct ones * Hire both "Jekyll and Hyde" + Balance between foundational players and texture specialists

Strategies for Front of House Engineers [18:57] * Be the guide - lead with your decisions + Take charge of the mix and make intentional choices * Use contrast effectively + Create distinction between elements (can't have "close" without "far") + Highlight different instruments in different sections * Anticipate "oops" moments, don't just react + Push faders before transitions, not after they happen * Vary verse highlights + Intentionally feature different instruments in different verses + Keep congregation engaged through variety * Develop common tonal language + The "5-1-2" system for describing frequency ranges + Creating shared vocabulary for sound issues * Reference the real + Compare your mix to professional recordings + Combat ear fatigue by checking against references * Mise en place - everything in its place + Strategic console layout for efficient mixing + Positioning faders for easy access during active mixing

Conclusion [24:25] * Start with clear direction (10 Commandments approach) then move to principles (Sermon on the Mount) * Have the courage to be specific with your team * Embrace structure as a pathway to creativity

Key Quotes * "Sometimes what feels like a straight jacket is actually a Narnia closet." * "Move away from playing the chart to playing the part." * "It is in that company's best interest to give you a patch that sounds great out of the box, but that's taking up a lot of real estate to make it sound good on its own." * "Be the guide, take charge, lead your congregation with your decisions." * "There cannot be close if there's not far, there cannot be wide if there isn't narrow." * "Interesting is greater than or at least equal to good."

Practical Applications 1. For Worship Pastors:

* Organize tracks by function rather than instrument type
* Create clear growth paths for volunteers
* Be appropriately prescriptive with newer team members

For Musicians:
- Consider your sonic footprint within the full band context
- Play intentional parts, not just the chord chart
- Create sounds that are interesting, not just technically correct
- For Sound Engineers:
- Use your left and right hands strategically on the console
- Intentionally highlight different instruments in different verses
- Reference professional mixes to maintain perspective

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Podcast Notes: The Church Front Show - Studio Setup & New Products Episode Overview In this episode of The Church Front Show, hosts Jake Gosselin and Matt Woltjer discuss plans for their podcast studio setup, review newly released audio/video products, share updates about Church Front Conference 2025, and explore potential expansion plans for their company.

Time Stamps & Key Points Introduction [00:00] * Jake and Matt joking about camera specifications and recording quality * Initial discussion about their podcast setup needs

Podcast Studio Equipment Plans [00:45] * Microphone considerations: + Shure SM7B microphones (with mention of the DB version with built-in preamp) + Discussion about the need for Cloud Lifters with standard SM7Bs * Audio equipment: + Yamaha DM3D digital mixer with Dante capabilities + Headphone monitoring options (in-ear vs. over-ear) * Studio furniture: + Plans for a larger 72" x 36" Uline cafe table + Preference for a setup where hosts face each other for better interaction * Acoustic treatment: + Prime Acoustic panels already installed + Need for cloud panels (jokingly assigned to Chris)

Lighting Setup [07:21] * Nanlite PavoTubes for accent lighting * Discussion about permanent vs. flexible lighting options * Consideration of Aperture softboxes for overhead lighting * Preference for movable stands with casters for flexibility

Camera Equipment [10:13] * Currently using Sony FX3 camera * Plans to transition to PTZ (Pan-Tilt-Zoom) cameras with NDI connectivity * Benefits of NDI: single ethernet cable for power, control, and video * Production approach using ECAMM Live software * Discussion about camera mounting options

New Warehouse Plans [16:54] * Looking at additional warehouse space with the same landlord * Need for more assembly, rack-building, and testing space * Benefits of pre-programming and pre-building systems before installation * Goal of improving craftsmanship in rack builds

Church Front Conference 2025 [31:30] * Announcement: moving to Rock Harbor Church in Florida * Limited capacity of 200-250 attendees (down from ~400 last year) * Conference dates: November 4-5, 2025 * Location benefit: half a mile from the beach * Advice to get tickets early due to limited availability

New Product Reviews [33:31] * Shure SLXD4Q Dante: + New Dante-enabled version of SLXD wireless system + Comparison with higher-end ULX-D and QLX-D systems + Price point and channel count considerations + Space-saving quad-channel receiver in single rack space * Dante Virtual Sound Card Pro: + New subscription model ($100 first year, $125 subsequent years) + Increased channel count: 128x128 at 48kHz + Discussion about subscription pricing models * Waves Titan Sound Grid Server: + High-performance audio processing server + Comparison with other Waves servers (Proton) + Use cases for high channel counts and plugin-heavy mixing * Waves Classic LV1 Console: + Price increase from $8,000 to $9,500 + Church Front has three units coming in (with two potentially available) + Discussion about modular vs. all-in-one system approaches * Stream Deck rack mounts and panels: + Custom mounting solutions for Stream Deck controllers + Companion satellite server integration options + Applications for church control systems

Concluding Segment [54:44] * Request for feedback on the new show format * Plans for future in-person and remote guest episodes * Mention of potential call-in question format * Information about joining the Church Front crew

Equipment Mentioned * Shure SM7B microphones (including DB version) * Yamaha DM3D digital mixer * Uline cafe tables * Prime Acoustic panels * Nanlite PavoTubes * Aperture lighting products * Sony FX3 camera * PTZ cameras with NDI * ECAMM Live software * Shure SLXD4Q Dante wireless systems * Waves Titan server * Waves Classic LV1 console * Stream Deck mounting solutions

Action Steps 1. Visit churchfront.com to connect with their team 2. Join the waitlist at churchfront.com/crew if interested in working with them 3. Consider attending Church Front Conference 2025 in Florida (get tickets early) 4. Email hello@churchfront.com with any questions 5. Leave a review if listening on podcast platforms

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Podcast Notes: Asking Better Questions in Worship Ministry - Kelsey McGinnis Keynote Episode Overview In this episode, we present Kelsey McGinnis' keynote from Churchfront Conference 2024. As a musicologist and researcher specializing in congregational music culture, Kelsey explores how transforming problematic worship ministry questions into deeper ones reveals important insights about community, belonging, and authentic worship.

Time Stamps & Key Points Introduction [00:00] * Kelsey's opening insight: "Whether someone sings in corporate worship probably has very little to do with how they feel about the songs themselves. It has everything to do with how they feel about their voices." * Introduction of Kelsey McGinnis, musicologist and researcher of congregational music * Her approach to using questions as the foundation for research and writing

Bad Questions vs. Better Questions [00:43] * The problem with starting with bad questions * How even problematic questions can lead to important insights * The process of refining questions to get to deeper truths * Why questions about music often reveal deeper issues about community

Case Study 1: Male Singing Participation [01:49] * The problematic initial question: "Why aren't men singing in church?" * Why this is a bad question (confrontational, assumes something not necessarily true) * How online discourse frames this issue ineffectively * Conversation with Dr. Randall Bradley from Baylor University (director of Baylor Men's Choir) * Key insight: "Whether someone sings in corporate worship probably has very little to do with how they feel about the songs themselves. It has everything to do with how they feel about their voices." * Stories from men about their relationship with their voices: + Being made fun of during adolescent voice changes + Feeling their low voices intrude during quiet worship moments + Not feeling their vocal contribution is valued * The importance of mentorship for young male singers * Better question: How do we create worship where all voices feel welcomed and valued?

Case Study 2: Changing Role of Church Musicians [09:07] * The strange initial question: "Is it more boring to be a church drummer now than it was 20 years ago?" * Why this question arose (multiple drummers independently expressing the same sentiment) * How worship music style has evolved over 30 years: + Movement from rock-based to EDM-influenced styles + Increased use of click tracks, pads, and loops + More accessible technology changing worship landscapes * Better questions: "What has changed for drummers in the past 20 years? Has anything meaningful been lost?" * Contrasting drummer experiences: + One drummer who feels more creative with new technology + Another who feels increasingly obsolete * The deeper question: "How do we let worship evolve without pushing people aside?" * The challenge of obsolescence in church ministry * Observations from the Sing Conference in Nashville: + Older worship leaders finding community where they don't feel obsolete + The need for intergenerational inclusion in worship

Case Study 3: Technology in Worship [16:30] * The limiting initial question: "Should churches use live autotune?" * Problems with "should" questions (invite simple yes/no answers) * Various perspectives on autotune: + As "spellcheck" or "bowling bumpers" for vocalists + As pitch coordination similar to click tracks + Concerns about becoming "karaoke franchises" * Better questions: "What are we really worried about with technology? When do we cross a threshold?" * Parallels to concerns about AI-generated art * The deeper question: "How do we balance humanity and imperfection with our desire for excellence?" * Thought-provoking quote: "Contemporary worship is in its Vogue magazine era—the Photoshopped version of itself" * The church's opportunity to model acceptance of imperfection and humanity

Case Study 4: Lament in Worship [23:06] * Common question: "How do we make space for lament in our worship?" * Widespread sense that popular worship doesn't adequately address lament * Conversation with Matt Maher about emotional whiplash in services * Better questions: "What do we actually need to lament? What hurt are we responding to?" * The need for worship to respond to hurt both inside and outside church walls * Letting worship be shaped by love of neighbors rather than love of excellence

Conclusion [25:57] * The human desire for easy answers and clear categories * Why superstitious views of music (healing frequencies, etc.) miss the point * The challenge of moving beyond online "takes" to deeper community questions * The value of telling stories that lead to wiser questions

Key Quotes * "Whether someone sings in corporate worship probably has very little to do with how they feel about the songs themselves. It has everything to do with how they feel about their voices." * "If you feel like your voice is a gift, that it has a place, you're more likely to offer it as a sacrifice of praise." * "I want to be part of a community where people aren't primarily valued for their ability to serve a particular aesthetic." * "Contemporary worship is in its Vogue magazine era—the Photoshopped version of itself." * "One radical thing that the church can do is be a place where we can model acceptance of the awkwardness and imperfection that comes about when you allow people to create something together."

Resources Mentioned * Dr. Randall Bradley from Baylor University * The Sing Conference in Nashville (hosted by Keith and Kristin Getty) * Religion News Service article on autotune in worship * Matt Maher (songwriter and worship leader)

Action Steps 1. Examine the questions you're asking about your worship ministry 2. Consider how your technology choices affect people's sense of belonging 3. Create space for all voices to feel valued in your worship context 4. Evaluate whether your pursuit of excellence might be excluding certain voices 5. Look for ways to let your worship respond to the hurt in your community

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Podcast Notes: The Future of Worship Leading with David Santistevan Episode Overview In this episode of the Church Front Worship and Tech Podcast, Luke Jackson interviews David Santistevan, a seasoned worship pastor, podcast host, and ministry coach. David shares insights from his 25 years in worship ministry, including his experience as a local church worship pastor, his five years traveling the country in an RV, and his current work helping churches develop healthy worship cultures.

Time Stamps & Key Points Introduction [00:00] * David opens with reflections on the current state of worship ministry * Concerns about worship becoming too automated and standardized * The danger of "sleepwalking through worship" when relying too heavily on technology

David's Background [01:15] * 25 years in worship ministry * Host of the Beyond Sunday podcast for 12 years * Served as a worship pastor at his home church in Pittsburgh for 12 years * Sold his house and traveled in an RV with his family for 5 years * Currently based in Orlando, Florida

The RV Journey [03:42] * Family decision to sell everything and travel * Visited nearly 40 national parks and all lower 48 states * Combined adventure with ministry - partnering with churches for training and workshops * Recording the podcast from their RV wherever they had WiFi

Beyond Sunday Podcast [05:59] * Started as a blog before transitioning to a podcast * Focus on practical worship ministry topics * Emphasis on serving the "underdog" local church worship leader * Has recorded over 330 episodes interviewing worship leaders and artists * Covers everything from rehearsal techniques to team development

Reconnecting with Unique Church Identity [13:12] * David's concerns about homogenization in church worship * "What God's doing at Bethel is wonderful, but what God's doing at my church is amazing as well" * Warning against equating worship ministry success with being a worship artist * Encouragement to embrace your church's uniqueness and "don't despise small beginnings" * "Worship ministry isn't about writing songs or being cool... it's about loving people and making disciples"

Ministry Longevity vs. Career Advancement [18:28] * Discussion about the "climbing the ladder" mentality in worship ministry * Importance of evaluating church culture and staff health * Some worship pastors finding renewed joy in smaller churches after megachurch burnout * Warning against "shiny object syndrome" - the constant pursuit of the next opportunity * "Maybe instead of transplanting yourself to a team that's more put together, God is calling you to invest in your little team"

Working with Different Church Cultures [22:32] * David's experience serving diverse churches during his RV travels * Finding common ground across different worship styles and approaches * Universal desire for authenticity and encountering God * Helping teams focus on playing together rather than just playing perfectly * "Rehearsal practice is personal and rehearsal is relational"

Over-Programmed Worship [26:22] * The shift away from midweek rehearsals and its impact * Getting too focused on executing flawless services * Missing the relational and spiritual elements of worship preparation * "We've gotten really good at pulling off excellent services... but we miss out on the presence-based flow in worship"

Finding Balance Between Structure and Flow [29:36] * Importance of unity with church leadership before making changes * Building trust with your pastor before introducing new worship approaches * The problem with "playlist worship" - hitting play and running on autopilot * Practical suggestions: planning fewer songs to create more space * Introducing medleys and acapella moments for more organic worship

Creating Powerful Worship Moments [35:29] * Planning intentional space in every worship set * The power of quiet moments when the band drops out * Creating opportunities for the congregation to sing without amplification * "My favorite moments of worship are when the band has dropped out and the people of God are just singing at the top of their lungs" * Incorporating simple refrains that don't require people to think too much

The State of Worship Songwriting [40:15] * Reflection on the current trends in worship songwriting * Concerns about songwriting becoming an idol * Provocative suggestion: "What if we just went on a worship songwriting fast for six months?" * Benefits of focusing less on what's trending and more on what local congregations need * Balance between developing creativity and obsessing over new songs

Current Worship Influences [47:05] * David mentions Aiden King's "Thank You So Much Jesus" as a recent favorite * Discussion of the distinction between worship music as a listening category versus congregational worship * David's love for ambient, instrumental music (particularly Hammock) * The therapeutic value of music without lyrics for worship leaders

Conclusion [51:02] * Where to find David: Instagram and YouTube @BeyondSundayWorship * David's appreciation for the Church Front ministry and resources

Key Quotes * "We're sounding the same, we're doing the same songs in the same way... it's almost like we're on autopilot a little bit." * "Don't despise how small your church is right now... that's the beauty of the body of Christ." * "Worship ministry isn't about writing songs, it's not about being cool... it's about loving people. It's about making disciples." * "My favorite moments of worship are when the band has dropped out and the people of God are just singing at the top of their lungs." * "What if we just went on a worship songwriting fast for six months? What would that do for us if we just stopped writing songs and releasing worship music for a little bit?"

Resources Mentioned * Beyond Sunday Worship (David's ministry) * Beyond Sunday podcast * Aiden King's music * Hammock (ambient instrumental music)

Action Steps 1. Evaluate whether your worship ministry has become too programmed or automated 2. Plan intentional spaces in your worship sets for organic moments 3. Consider the unique identity of your church rather than copying megachurch models 4. Build trust with your leadership before introducing significant worship style changes 5. Balance excellence with authenticity in your approach to worship

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Podcast Notes: The Church Front Show - Streaming Showdowns, Volunteer Tech Culture, and Easter Hot Takes Episode Overview In this episode of The Church Front Show, hosts Jake Gosselin and Matt Woltjer discuss several important topics for church tech teams including streaming platform updates, volunteer management challenges, studio equipment upgrades, and Easter service preparation. They also share interesting tech spotlights and clarify Church Front's service offerings.

Time Stamps & Key Points Introduction [00:02] * Welcome to The Church Front Show with Jake Gosselin and Matt Woltjer * Jake introduces himself as "low voltage specialist" while Matt jokes about being the "Stream Deck guy" * Mention of Church Front's website and the new "Toolkit" featuring gear packages and bundles

Streaming Showdown Follow-Up [01:27] * Discussion of Resi's response to their previous streaming platform comparison video * Key issues identified by Resi: + Tests were conducted on outdated firmware missing critical improvements + Resi Mini encoder was configured at a much higher bitrate (15 Mbps vs. 4 Mbps) * Jake's acknowledgment: "We messed up. We mess up all the time. Don't take everything we said as the final truth." * Explanation of philosophical differences between streaming platforms: + BoxCast prioritizes near real-time delivery even with occasional quality reduction + Resi prioritizes consistent video quality with accepted delays * Matt explains the challenges of recording comparison videos: "We recorded this video three times... you have to basically stop what you're doing, congest your network or cut the cable..."

Volunteer Tech Culture Discussion [11:34] * Response to a social media post about a 26-year tech volunteer who was abruptly dismissed * The volunteer had served for 26 years and was told by a new pastor (8 months at the church) they were "going in a different direction" with no further explanation * Perspectives from both sides: + Leadership should build relationships and provide clear communication about vision + Volunteers should maintain open communication and approach changes with humility * Matt's insight: "If you build good relationships with your people, hopefully it never comes to this type of a post... if you can do it through that element of respect and love and relationship, it's going to turn out way better."

Studio Updates & Equipment [18:16] * Current equipment upgrades: + Shure SM7B microphones (not the DB version as intended) + Yamaha DM3 mixer + CRM 300 camera with a 500 model on the way + NDI video integration with ECAMM + Uline cafe table (72″ x 36″) + Prime Acoustic wall panels * Jake's appreciation for ECAMM: "ECAMM now in my opinion is a little bit underrated as a live stream solution for churches" * Discussion of ProPresenter's limitation: lack of NDI HX output

Church Front Growth [24:24] * Announcement about company expansion * Currently hiring for a Solutions Specialist role * Future need for additional AV technicians for upcoming projects * New warehouse space development * Applications available through the Church Front website resources page

Tech Spotlights [26:31] * DIY Front of House Console Build: + YouTube creator completely disassembled an Avantis console + Integration with rack-mounted computers to create a 4-in-1 system + Controls audio, ProPresenter, lighting, and video + Matt's warning: "Don't do this until you've had your Avantis for at least two years and the warranty's no longer good." * LED System Installation: + Church in Nebraska with 6.5′ x 11.5′ LED screens + Impressive architectural integration including sliding door to reveal screens * Universal Audio Apollo Headphone Amp: + Discussion of potential studio upgrade + Cost-effective alternative using Dante feeds and Loop Back software * SQ Mixer Firmware Update (v1.6.0.0): + Matrix mixes can now be split (six mono matrices instead of three stereo) + Both USB ports can record simultaneously + Enhanced app control capabilities + MAC compatibility for firmware updates

Easter Tech Hot Takes [39:41] * Matt's advice: "Don't be one of the churches that completely changes your DNA for the people that are going to come twice a year... you don't want them to be shocked by the difference between what you did for Easter and what you do the next weekend." * Jake's warning: "Easter's not the time to try new tech!" * Recommendation to plan major tech upgrades months in advance, not weeks before major services * Jake: "If you are having to expend all of your creative brain power to put together a tech system that you didn't take the time to learn, test and use, and then your whole week is just consumed with stress... you quite frankly deserve that stress because you did not take the time to be responsible in planning." * Matt's reminder: "Your job at that moment is to minister. Even if you're on sound, even if you're on video, your job is to minister, not worry about tech."

Church Front Services Update [45:19] * Church Front Premium: + Training and personalized advice through group coaching + Consultation on upcoming AV projects + Equipment recommendations with Spencer, their lead design engineer + Access to all Church Front courses * Church Front Pro (formerly Church Front Accelerator): + Comprehensive consulting, design, and AV integration + On-site surveys and assessments, including Matterport scans + Professional system design using Vectorworks + Assembly, installation, commissioning, training, and support

Equipment Mentioned * Shure SM7B microphones * Yamaha DM3 mixer * CRM 300 and 500 cameras * ECAMM live streaming solution * Avantis audio console * Universal Audio Apollo headphone amp * Allen & Heath SQ mixer (firmware v1.6.0.0) * Prime Acoustic panels

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Special Guest Brad Bramer In this insightful episode of the Churchfront Worship and Tech Podcast, Luke interviews Brad Bramer, Executive Producer at Southeast Christian Church, about the vital role of prayer, team unity, and effective communication in ministry.

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01:11 Introduction to Brad Bramer

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07:34 Overcoming Divisiveness Through Curiosity

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15:33 Navigating Feedback and Growth in Ministry

23:51 Maintaining Spiritual Focus in Technical Roles

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25:41 Technical Aspects of Multi-Campus Church Services

27:14 Empowerment and Flexibility in Worship

28:08 Streamlining Worship with Technology

29:26 Balancing Consistency and Creativity

31:57 Communication and Coordination Challenges

33:39 Maintaining Simplicity and Efficiency

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38:48 Creating and Sharing Content

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In this episode of the Churchfront Show, the team delves into the latest advancements in wireless technology and AV innovations crucial for church production and tech enthusiasts. Key topics include groundbreaking wireless systems from Sennheiser, innovative microphones from Shure, high-end audio gear from and intelligent EQ systems from Waves, and versatile new devices enhancing both live and studio environments from Elgato. The hosts also discuss the benefits of networked control devices and new AI tools in church tech apps.

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Today's episode is with Kelsey McGinnis, worship correspondent for Christianity Today.

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Today's guest is William Vanderbloemen, a longtime friend and author of a forthcoming book, "Be the Unicorn."

We discuss the current job market's difficulties and how individuals can use good practices (or habits) to stand out.

Our conversation touches on the impact of technology (AI and automation especially) on job market trends, the role of soft skills, the importance of responsiveness, and practical insights for worship and tech leaders.

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This episode is a talk given by Will Johnson at the Churchfront Conference where he explains how to think like a music director.

Will discusses the importance of preparing for rehearsals, knowing your team and the sound, establishing clear expectations, and making the right arrangement decisions.

He provides tips and insights about managing a worship band and making effective arrangement decisions.

Will also talks about addressing arrangement corrections and understanding the nuances of individual band members.

We hope you enjoy!

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In this episode of the Churchfront Worship and Tech podcast, we bring you a Q&A panel from Churchfront Live 2022 filled with great questions from our live audience.

The panelists cover various topics from managing personal relationships within a worship team, dealing with a consistently late team member, handling a musician that overplays, handling changes in objectives each week, encouraging more spirit-led worship and engaging with middle school students on a worship team.

Question #1 - What's the difference between disfunction and toxicity

Question #2 - How do you balance being involved with your church and the needs of your family?

Question #3 - How do you encourage your team to get out of the green room but also be punctual.

Question #4 - What's your favorite way to celebrate your team?

Question #5 - How to coach your team when they're overplaying?

Question #6 - How to make a C200 into a mobile rig

Question #7 - How to enforce punctuality on your team

Question #8 - How to get team leaders buy into vision?

Question #9 - What would you tell the younger version of yourself in ministry?

Question #10 - How to handle romantic relationships within your team members

Question #11 - How to deal with consistent new ideas with your lead pastor

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In this episode of the Churchfront Worship & Tech podcast, Luke sits down with Dalton Shaffer to hear about a popular development plan that Dalton has developed for raising up worship leaders in the church.

He posted about it on Instagram and the post blew up with people downloading the document and you can grab it for yourself with the link below.

Dalton walks through his process and how it's fleshed out in the life of his local church in the episode.

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In this episode, we bring you a talk from Churchfront Live 2022 where Luke Jackson shares a case study at Storyline Church growing and recruiting his team starting with only 6 volunteers and growing a ministry of over 30 volunteers.

Luke walks through scalable systems for onboarding and equipping your growing team, and some practical steps you can implement today to get more people involved in your area of ministry.

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In this episode, we sit down with Scott Gayer, Worship Pastor at the Well in Boulder Colorado.

Boulder has its challenges, including being forced to move out of the space your church has been meeting in for years. Oh and not to mention it's not necessarily easy to buy property in Boulder for religious purposes. This is definitely an uphill battle.

Scott and I discuss his approach to worship ministry in a somewhat unreached area of Colorado when it comes to the Gospel. I'm excited for you to hear more of his take.

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In today's episode I sit down with a local worship leader to the Colorado area Ian Dizon.

I was so thankful for this episode because Ian hit on two of what we believe to be core pillars to Worship ministries and that is Leadership Clarity and Streamlined Systems.

Ian talks about his upbringing as not only a worship leader, but primarily as a servant to his local church and how it's impacted his team.

He also shares some of his systems he's integrated to help him plan to be spontaneous. You heard me right and you are not going to want to miss that section of this episode.

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There's always news in the worship and tech world and specifically there's always new tech being released like computers, consoles, and the like.

But how are you supposed to keep up with all of it and know whether or not you absolutely NEED this new piece of tech or whether you can make what you have work for another couple of bridges of Oceans.

That's what the Churchfront Show is here for.

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Whenever new stuff gets released, or old stuff discontinues further support and becomes a relic, the coaches in worship ministry school are here to navigate those conversations, the pros, the cons, and the budgetary concerns with our Worship Ministry School students.

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In today's episode we chat with Eddie Hoagland about pro tips for leading worship teams, how to grow and scale your ministry, and how to handle team division in your ministry. Eddie brings helpful insight and reflections on leadership whether you're a smaller church, or a growing church. Thanks to Eddie for making the time for being with us.

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In today's episode we chat with David Taylor, author of A Body of Praise a brand new book for worship leaders to recapture the importance of our physical bodies and the role they play in corporate worship.

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In today's episode we chat with Kade Young, founder of Collaborate Worship, a platform that helps people learn the basics of church sound through online training courses. Kade is a pastor, teacher, and father living in Tulsa with his family and local church. In this episode we dive into how to get great sound with simple tools and simple steps for volunteers to take. We also discuss whether Kade will be upgrading to a Behringer WING in the near future.

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In this episode of the Churchfront show we talk about apple's under the radar announcement of Logic Pro for the iPad and what that means for broadcast mixing.

We also highlight Sweetwater's very enticing gear exchange where you can sell your old gear on Sweetwater's site and get sweetwater credit toward your next purchase.

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In today's episode I chat with recent Accelerator program graduate, Sam Clarke.

Sam Clarke stepped into a role with his wife in a church where they'd have to tackle some technical issues, grow the team signficantly, and change the direction of the worship culture entirely, but I'll let him tell you more about that in the episode, so stay tuned.

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In this episode, we chat with Matt & Nick from Bravingbird.

Bravingbird is doing some incredible things in the creative ministry space. They're helping churches gain access to FREE high quality cinematic videos with deep, beautiful, and moving stories to use during your services or events.

And yes, we really mean FREE

We think you're going to love this phenomenal new resource and you'll learn more about their vision and heart during the episode.

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In today’s episode, we bring you the Churchfront show.

The Churchfront show is where we bring you the latest news in worship & tech so you can stay up on all that’s happening with the most important stuff that crosses our desks here at Churchfront.

And the reason we try to stay up to date on all things worship and tech is to help our students more effectively in Worship Ministry School.

In Worship Ministry School our students get access to step by step courses, one on one coaching from the Churchfront team, and sometimes can even have one of our staff members come on site to help you accomplish your ministry goals even faster.

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In this episode, Jake interviews Chad Vegas.

Chad was previously on staff with Bethel and has recently moved to Tulsa Oklahoma to partner with Transformation Church and their production department.

Chad had a nasty health scare and shares some incredible insight to our listeners on the importance of physical, spiritual, and emotional health while working in the worship and production environments.

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He also shares some exciting news as Transformation recently launched the first 4k HDR broadcast infrastructure for their online broadcast. Chad breaks down the nitty gritty and bells and whistles during the conversation, you won't want to miss.

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Hey before today’s episode, a quick house keeping announcement.

In today's episode, I sit down with Bre Terzic, a recent Worship Ministry School graduate from the Accelerator Program.

Bre stepped into our program a little over a year ago as a part time leader in a church plant looking for guidance and support in her role as she aimed to recruit, train and lead her team toward better results. Little did she know all the Lord had in plan not only for her as a leader over the next year, but also for her church and ministry. I'm so excited for you to hear her story and journey in ministry.

Today's episode is brought to you by the Worship Accelerator Program.

In the Worship Accelerator, our team at Churchfront partners one on one with ministry leaders like Bre, whether you're volunteer, part time or full time at a church to help you accomplish your specific goals in your ministry.

Those goals could be growing your team, or leveraging a strategy with technology. Or in reality, you might not know what your goals need to be, but you know your ministry has greater potential. Our coaches help with it all and would love to partner with your ministry.

Every student starts in the same spot which is on a phone call with one of our advisors who can ask some specific questions to discern where the pain points are and what kind of goals you want to accomplish in your ministry.

You can schedule your free phone call at Worshipministryschool.com/apply

For more resources to grow you and grow your ministry, you can head to Churchfront.com

Thanks for listening and we'll see you again next time.

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One of the most important aspects to our worship services is singing Gospel-centered songs that point people toward Jesus.

And one of the most common struggles of worship and tech leaders in the church is trying to train our vocalists to execute harmonies correctly, sing confidently, or stay in tune without additional tools like Autotune.

For many years, our options have been to dedicate hours of our own time, whether we are good teachers or not, trying to train our team, or the other option was to recommend a private coach or vocal teacher.

Charmaine over at Worship Vocalist came along and built another, better option. Worship Vocalist is an online resource to help your vocalists execute with excellence and get the quality of a private vocal coach at the comfort of their own home.

I'm so excited for you to hear more about the resources she provides and how its serving the church.

If you enjoy this episode, share it with a vocalist on your team, as there is tons of practical advice in this episode Charmaine graciously brought to our listeners.

And check out Worship Vocalist over on their website:

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Charmaine also provides an incredible warmup resource you can access for free with you and your team that you can find in the link below:

www.worshipvocalist.com/freewarmup

Don't forget to subscribe so you don't miss out on any future episodes we have coming your way.

And don't forget to check out worship ministry school to get more step by step training in leadership development, leading your musicians or tech team, or leverage today's latest technology for your worship services.

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Just so you know, we really are intentional with our guests on this podcast and want to invite guests who can bring value to you listeners who we know are leaders in the church, serving your congregations faithfully and looking to grow in your own leadership journey.

So when I found Strahan Coleman and discovered some of his resources he had surrounding prayer, I immediately felt it would bring value to our listeners.

I had such a great time getting to know Strahan and hope you’ll find this episode and our conversation encouraging for your own heart, but also give you some helpful insight as you lead the people in your churches.

If you’d like to pick up Beholding, which I highly recommend you do, you can head to the links in the show notes to pick up a copy for yourself. You will not regret having this as a staple on your shelf.

And don’t forget to pick up Strahan’s other prayer books as well by visiting commoner’scommunion.com

If you’re interested in having our team come alongside you like we did with Shannon, you can apply to join worship ministry school today at worshipministryschool.com/apply

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How do you balance being a new worship leader, a new mom, and transitioning ministry roles from Youth Ministry all the while leading a team that is older and more experienced than you?

In today's conversation with recent Worship Ministry School graduate, Shannon Evans, we talk about all of those things.

Shannon had unique ministry goals that can't be copy & pasted from another ministry, so we partnered alongside her in the Accelerator program so she could have unlimited access to customized support and coaching as well as some coaches in her corner to help her when she got stuck.

If you enjoy this episode, share it with a friend, share it on social media, or leave a rating and review to let the team know.

Thanks again to Shannon for giving of her time, and we know you'll find loads of value from the insight she brought to this conversation.

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There are a lot of roles in the church and the people who are staffed in churches often wear a myriad of hats. Sometimes wearing multiple hats comes with some challenging pieces to serving in the church.

In our conversation with Nathian Finochio, founder of TheosU, Jake and Luke dive into where they see some challenges in working for the church, we help the listeners figure out how to finally get that guest speaker's powerpoint up on the screen, and we talk about the hope we have for good longevity in the Worship pastor and tech director staff roles within modern day churches.

To learn more about theosU you can check out https://www.theosu.ca/about

If you're looking for pastoral development and to grow in your leadership skills, you can join Worship Ministry School by applying at worshipministryschool.com/apply

In this episode, we bring you a keynote talk from Travis Ducette, worship leader, song writer, and coach from Churchfront Live.

Travis titles this talk Ditch the Green Room for the Lobby and it is an incredible source of value whether you're a worship leader or tech director, volunteer or staff, old or young, this episode is gold.

We hope you'll join us at Churchfront Live October 17-18, 2023 in Littleton Colorado.

You can pick up your tickets at churchfrontlive.com

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In this episode, you'll hear a full coaching call from our Worship Ministry School program.

In our Worship Strater program, our students get access to weekly office hours with our coaches to bring their specific questions and make sure they get answers so they can get results fast.

In this coaching call, we discussed picking the right lights, addressing streamdecks and networked equipment through the companion app, acoustic treatment in a set-up, tear-down church plant as well as streamlining setup and tear down procedures so you get consistent mixes every week even when you're mobile.

If you want access to the coaching portal so you can bring your questions to a coach and get custom tailored guidance, head to worshipministryschool.com/apply to get started.

In this episode, you'll hear part 2 of Luke's conversation with Matt Powell, the worship minister at Storyline Church in Arvada, Colorado.

In this part of the conversation, Matt breaks down his philosophy on auditions, and how having a good audition structure can enable a streamlined leadership pipeline in your church for people to develop their craft and use their gifts to serve the church.

Matt also shares his insight and philosophy on introducing liturgical elements for the first time at a church that has not historically had many intentional liturgical elements in its services.

You can apply to the worship accelerator program by heading to worshipministryschool.com/apply to work with the Churchfront team to accomplish your ministry goals fast.

In today's episode, Luke sits down with Matt Powell, the Worship Minister at Storyline Church in Colorado.

Matt shares his call to ministry, his journey with musicianship, and how he's seeing engagement increase in corporate worship.

You can check out Storyline at storylinechurch.net

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In this episode, you'll hear Luke's interview with Regan Odom.

Reagan is a recent worship ministry school accelerator program graduate. She went through our coaching program with specific goals and some unique challenges along the way that she has graciously shared with our audience.

You can check out her church at https://www.journeyyuma.church/

If you're interested in joining Worship Ministry School and working alongside our coaching team, you can apply to have a free strategy session at the link below to get all the details about what it looks like to enroll.

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In this episode, we bring you an incredible keynote from Tim Foot on leading your teams in your ministries to be remarkable.

Tim brings 10 practical, thoughtful and impactful insights for leaders who oversee teams, big or small.

We would love to see you and your team at Churchfront Live this year in Littleton, Colorado. You can get your tickets with the link below

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In this episode, Jake chats with Erik Reed & Brett Perkins.

Erik & Brett share some strategies they've used in their ministry context and why they saw a need to cancel their live stream for this season of their church's ministry.

You can check out their music they're writing in the links below.

If you enjoy the conversation, let us know by leaving a rating or review on apple podcasts.

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In this episode, we interview a Worship Ministry School graduate, Patrick Billings, who went through our Accelerator Program.

Patrick shares about his church, his specific goals he wanted to accomplish, and the things he learned along the way.

If you want to check out his church you can do so by visiting https://mvfchurch.com/about-us

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In this episode we share with you an incredible talk from Adaeze Brinkman at Churchfront Live 2022.

Adaeze brings conviction, inspiration, and reflection on loving Jesus, not just the act of performing on a worship or tech team for the church. We hope you'll enjoy.

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In this episode, we chat with Jorge Diaz, a recent graduate of the Worship Ministry School Accelerator Program. Jorge shares his experience implementing the strategies and tools he learned in the program with his worship and production teams at his church plant.

If you're interested in joining the Accelerator Program in Worship Ministry School, you can get more details by chatting with one of our advisors by filling out the form at worshipministryschool.com

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In this episode, Adam recaps the different pillars of Worship and Tech ministry that he helped with at a church in Alamosa, Colorado who is a part of our Worship Accelerator Pro program in Worship Ministry School.

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In this episode, we head to the infamous Churchfront Facebook group to answer some of our community's questions that have popped up on the page recently.

We know not everyone's a facebook user, so we thought we'd answer them on our podcast, but we also thought they were fun questions to dive into discussion about.

You can see the links to some of the things we discussed below, and don't forget to like & subscribe so you don't miss out on future episodes.

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Cue Server

Ableton Live Broadcast Mix Makeover

Worship Tech Makeover | Hilton Head Presbyterian

Cyberduck FTP & Cloud Storage Browser

In today’s episode, we bring you a great keynote from our most recent Churchfront Live event and one of our great friends James Attaway.

James gives some great steps to take your ministry team from amateur to pro when it comes to stewarding church tech whether you’re a volunteer or a staff member at a church.

In every episode of the Churchfront podcast we aim to help you focus on a pillar of worship or tech leadership and today is no different.

This keynote from James is bullseye dead center on helping you lead your team and having clarity about your leadership role.

If you think that leadership clarity is a pillar you can skimp on so you can make your snare drum sound awesome, I can tell you, you most likely will not grow a team.

If you are new to leadership or are considering stepping into a role, you may need some external support.

A great place to get support is in worship ministry school where you’ll get custom tailored coaching and mentorship to help you take your ministry to the next level.

If you’re interested, head to worshipminstryschool.com to fill out a short form and hop on a phone call with one of our coaches to figure out the next steps to help you lead your ministry with humble stewardship and great confidence.

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In today's episode, I have a great conversation with Todd Rukes of Ruke's Search Group and we really focus on a critical pillar of any worship or tech leader in the church and that is pastoral clarity.

This episode is brought to you by Worship Ministry School. Worship Ministry School is an online learning platform for worship leaders and tech leaders and their volunteers to learn the pillars of worship and tech ministry. There are step by step, in depth instructional courses ranging from pastoral skills, to musical training, systems for your ministry's success, and tech training covering audio, visual, and broadcast. These courses are written and developed with your volunteer team in mind, and start from the very beginning.

If you want to learn more, you can check out worshipministryschool.com where you can fill out a form to have a free call with one of our coaches to learn more about how the whole thing works.

Pastoral clarity is number one on our list, because it impacts everything else in the ministry. If you don't understand what your role is and why you're in the role, your ministry won't get very far. Todd and I have some great conversation about developing yourself as a leader, learning how to engage your congregation, and how to have a leg up if you're applying for a job in churches these days.

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In today’s episode we are bringing you a keynote from the Churchfront Live conference that may be one of the biggest challenges churches are dealing with today.

It all revolves around leveraging the visual technology your church has with lighting.

We brought in some experts from Pro Church Lights to give our listeners and attendees of the conference 10 lighting hacks which is a fancy way of saying that they teach you what is basically a primer to church lighting in less than an hour’s time. If you’re new to lighting, or you’re struggling with your current lighting, this episode is going to be a great time spent.

If you want our team’s help assessing your lighting or other areas of tech or leadership in your worship and tech ministry, you should consider joining worship ministry school.

In worship ministry school you get Accelerated learning with step-by-step instructional courses on things like lighting, audio, broadcast, cameras, and more as well as custom tailored coaching from our coaching staff to help you accomplish your goals fast!

You can learn more and find out if it’s a good fit for you by scheduling a call with a coach with the form at worshipministryschool.com

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In this episode, Joel and Luke sit down to chat through the Advent season from a worship leader's perspective. Advent may be familiar or unfamiliar to you, but it has significant impacts on how we lead our people through a truly unique and special season. All the resources Joel mentions are listed with links below if you want to dig into some additional education around the season of Advent.

The Worship Sourcebook

Ancient-Future Time

Living the Christian Year: Time to Inhabit the Story of God

Advent: The Once and Future Coming of Jesus Christ

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Ancient-Future Time

Living the Christian Year: Time to Inhabit the Story of God

Advent: The Once and Future Coming of Jesus Christ

In this episode, Adam and Luke, coaches in Worship Ministry School recap Adam's most recent trip to Community Fellowship Church where one of our Worship Accelerator Pro students in Worship Ministry School took advantage of 4 on site days with a member of the Churchfront team to help dial in technology, streamline systems, and optimize the ministry for volunteers.

If you're interested in how the Accelerator Pro program or Worship Ministry School could help you and your ministry, hop on a call with one of our coaches by filling out the form at worshipministryschool.com

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In this episode you'll hear a keynote from Churchfront Live 2022 given by Zac Hicks. Zack titled his talk Gospel-Centered Worship: How to Put Jesus First in Music and Production and it does not disappoint. Zac brings scripture, resources, and thought provoking insights into how to lead our ministries with the Gospel at the center.

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In this episode, we chat with one of our Accelerator students, Lauren Pate.

Lauren Pate had never been a worship leader before stepping into her part time role at her church and joining worship ministry school. She's got a full time job as a wife and mother of her wonderful kids, and she was passionate about stewarding the ministry well. We talk about how she navigated the unique season and walked through all the amazing results she was able to see as a result of her pursuing her own personal and professional development. If you want to pursue your own unique goals in your ministry context and have custom tailored coaching, you can join Worship Ministry School today by clicking the link below.

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In this episode, we chat with one of our Accelerator students, Lauren Pate.

Lauren Pate had never been a worship leader before stepping into her part time role at her church and joining worship ministry school. She's got a full time job as a wife and mother of her wonderful kids, and she was passionate about stewarding the ministry well. We talk about how she navigated the unique season and walked through all the amazing results she was able to see as a result of her pursuing her own personal and professional development. If you want to pursue your own unique goals in your ministry context and have custom tailored coaching, you can join Worship Ministry School today by clicking the link below.

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If you've ever wanted a one stop shop where you can list checklists, training videos, pdf's, cheat sheets, walk throughs - you name it for your volunteers on your worship or tech teams, Zach Brown has created that very resource and is giving it away for free! Check out this episode where we do a deep dive on all the great possibilities when using Notion for your worship & tech ministry. You can find links to connect with Zach and his channel, as well as the Youtube walk throughs of his template and the actual template down below.

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Second Checklist Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swV8LazuPc8

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If you've ever wanted a one stop shop where you can list checklists, training videos, pdf's, cheat sheets, walk throughs - you name it for your volunteers on your worship or tech teams, Zach Brown has created that very resource and is giving it away for free! Check out this episode where we do a deep dive on all the great possibilities when using Notion for your worship & tech ministry. You can find links to connect with Zach and his channel, as well as the Youtube walk throughs of his template and the actual template down below.

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First Checklist Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VZquk-gx98

Second Checklist Video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=swV8LazuPc8

Notion Template: https://www.churchmediatraining.com/checklist2022

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Rob Brockman is one of 3 cohosts of the Worship God podcast and we are big fans of the Worship God podcast. They're supplying resources to worship leaders all over the world for how to think more theologically about the songs they plan, the methods they use to pastor their teams, and the way they engage with the people in their congregation.

In this episode we talk about congregational singing, song selection, internships, favorite worship leader resources, and so much more. Below are some of the books we referenced and a link to their podcast if you want to check out the content Worship God is pushing out.

Corporate Worship - Matt Merker

Christ Centered Worship - Bryan Chapell

Worship God Podcast

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Rob Brockman is one of 3 cohosts of the Worship God podcast and we are big fans of the Worship God podcast. They're supplying resources to worship leaders all over the world for how to think more theologically about the songs they plan, the methods they use to pastor their teams, and the way they engage with the people in their congregation.

In this episode we talk about congregational singing, song selection, internships, favorite worship leader resources, and so much more. Below are some of the books we referenced and a link to their podcast if you want to check out the content Worship God is pushing out.

Corporate Worship - Matt Merker

Christ Centered Worship - Bryan Chapell

Worship God Podcast

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Michael Curtis - systems engineer

No one loves painting on a wet paper napkin nor does anyone enjoy mixing on a poorly designed PA system. Michael speaks to the key influences in the process of designing a PA system for a church.

If you want more training and resources, you can check out Michael's youtube channel where he puts out new trainings and videos every week.

If you want to check out the visual form of this interview and see some of Michael's presentation, you can check that out here

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Michael Curtis - systems engineer

No one loves painting on a wet paper napkin nor does anyone enjoy mixing on a poorly designed PA system. Michael speaks to the key influences in the process of designing a PA system for a church.

If you want more training and resources, you can check out Michael's youtube channel where he puts out new trainings and videos every week.

If you want to check out the visual form of this interview and see some of Michael's presentation, you can check that out here

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What do guitars, mountain bikes and your worship team all have in common? Jason Houtsma speaks to it in today's episode.

Jason Houtsma runs a platform called Worship Artistry where the user experiences a private music teacher environment to learn the latest worship songs on drums, guitar, keys, and vocals. Your whole team can get access and they're adding to their catalogue daily. This is an incredible resource for worship teams to step up their musicianship and increase their excellence. Worship Artistry not only teaches you how to play the part but also how to get creative with making the sound your own!

You can use the link below to sign up for a 21 day free trial to check it out, and as Jason recommends, just try to learn one song, and you'll be hooked.

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What do guitars, mountain bikes and your worship team all have in common? Jason Houtsma speaks to it in today's episode.

Jason Houtsma runs a platform called Worship Artistry where the user experiences a private music teacher environment to learn the latest worship songs on drums, guitar, keys, and vocals. Your whole team can get access and they're adding to their catalogue daily. This is an incredible resource for worship teams to step up their musicianship and increase their excellence. Worship Artistry not only teaches you how to play the part but also how to get creative with making the sound your own!

You can use the link below to sign up for a 21 day free trial to check it out, and as Jason recommends, just try to learn one song, and you'll be hooked.

worshipartistry.com/churchfront

jason@worshipartistry.com

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In this episode, Zac Hicks gives us tools to help us plan and improve the accuracy and effectiveness of what we say or pray between songs as worship leaders.

Zac dives into John 14:26-27 as well as John 16:13-14 to direct us to what Jesus says about the Holy Spirit and how that context might help us understand planning vs. spontaneous leadership during our worship services.

Don't forget to check out Zac Hick's book The Worship Pastor

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In this episode, we recapped Adam's trip to Hilton Head Presbyterian Church where he visited Josh Miles who is an Accelerator Pro student in Worship Ministry School. Accelerator Pro members get 4 onsite days with a Churchfront team member to optimize their systems, train their volunteer teams, and tweak systems that need attention to get the results of the Worship Ministry School student.

If you're interested in having one of our team members come to your church, you can hop on a free Strategy Session by filling out a form at worshipministryschool.com and hop on a call with one of our coaches to help you drill down into what the current problems are in your ministry, assess your goals and what the best course of action would be to get you to achieve those goals. Many of our students actually don't need a ton of new gear, sometimes an adapter here and there, or a new piece of software to streamline some systems, but most ministries don't need tens of thousands of dollars of new gear but rather a better understanding and education on how to use the current capable gear they already have on hand.

If you want to see some visuals of Adam's experience, you can checkout the youtube video where Adam recaps his time with Josh.

I hope you enjoy Adam's recap of his Worship Tech Makeover at Hilton Head Presbyterian Church.

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Jonathan Malm, author of the Volunteer Effect, Unwelcome, and the Comeback Effect as well as the founder of Sunday Social and Churchstagedesignideas.com joins us to discuss 3 key ideas regarding volunteers in our churches.

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The Volunteer Effect: How Your Church Can Find, Train, and Keep Volunteers Who Make a Difference

In today's episode Jake walks through 10 lighting tips to improve your lighting at your church. This doesn't even mean you have to buy new fixtures, you can use these tips with the lights you already have! The tips Jake brings will bring a ton of value and help you improve your in person experience and remove distraction as well as enhance the broadcast experience because your camera sensors will be getting better clarity in the image. Although we wanted to bring you this value packed podcast, we also have a corresponding youtube video that will show you visually every one of these tips in a practical setting so be sure to check out the video as well.

If you are interested in the step by step process and a much deeper dive into how to improve your lighting, you can check out Worship Ministry School where we have a brand new Lighting for Worship course that dives deep into fixtures, software control, and best practice for lighting for churches. You can find the link to check out Worship Ministry School in the show notes of this episode.

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In this episode, the Churchfront team recaps Adam's trip to North Sound Church, one of our Accelerator Pro members and talked through how Adam was able to take the ministry to the next level and equip their team without purchasing new gear, but rather optimizing what they already had.

Click on the link below to check out Chris & Casey's story in their testimonial

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In part 2 of this series at the Worship Pastor's desk, our resident contributor Zac Hicks opens the Scriptures that help us understand our God who delights in, commands, and meets us through singing.

Zephenia 3:14-18

Colossians 2:13-15

Luke 23:46

Psalm 31:5

Matthew 27:46

John 19:28

Galatians 2

Be sure to check out Zac's book, the Worship Pastor

www.worshipministryschool.com

In today's episode, we talk about the hottest news in worship tech. Linked below are some of our most noticeable mentions

https://www.blackmagicdesign.com/products/atemsdi

https://renewedvision.com/propresenter/whats-new/

https://lightkeyapp.com/en/releasenotes

www.worshipministryschool.com

In part 1 of this 2 part episode, our resident contributor Zac Hicks opens the Scriptures that help us understand our God who delights in, commands, and meets us through singing.

Be sure to check out Zac's book, the Worship Pastor

www.worshipministryschool.com

In this episode, we discuss the new place to find job postings for worship leaders and tech directors, Churchfrontjobs.com. Feel free to share this site with anyone looking to get hired, or even looking to hire someone in this field.

www.churchfrontjobs.com

www.worshipministryschool.com

In this episode, we break down the complete guide to being a worship ministry leader, according to our good friends over at the Babylon Bee.

https://babylonbee.com/news?sort=buzzing

www.worshipministryschool.com

How to Build a Worship Song Library - Travis Doucette

What does it mean for the Holy Spirit to be present in worship? That's the question Zac Hicks covers in this episode of the Worship Pastor's Desk.

Learn how to get your worship ministry organized. This was the talk Adam gave at our Churchfront Live Gathering in 2021.

Luke Hendrickson is the Mix Engineer at Bethel Church in Redding, California. This talk was recorded at the 2021 Churchfront Live Gathering.

In this episode, Jake talks about 5 Worship Ministry trends that you can't ignore.

In this episode, you'll hear a keynote from our 2021 Churchfront Live Gathering featuring Luke Jackson on how to lead a motivated worship team.

www.worshipministryschool.com

www.churchfrontlive.com

What does it mean to be a worship leader? Can we find examples of worship leaders in the bible? What's the point of singing songs in church? Life in ministry can become so busy and exhausting that we lose sight of why we do what we do. To solve this problem, we're starting a new series on our Youtube channel called, The Worship Pastor's desk with Zac Hicks.

www.worshipministryschool.com

In this episode, you'll hear a keynote from Cory Reynolds (Former Video Director with The Belonging Co). He shares reflections and life lessons on storytelling, creativity, and leadership for worship creatives and tech directors.

www.churchfrontlive.com

www.worshipministryschool.com

In today's episode, Luke and Adam have another recap of Sunday morning. Adam talks about the troubleshooting he had to do before service to get the projectors working. They both give some advice on being ready to troubleshoot if needed. No matter how well you plan, sometimes things go wrong. It's important to stay calm and try your best to get things up and running promptly.

www.worshipministryschool.com

In today's episode, Luke and Adam do a recap of Sunday morning. They discuss what went well with production and the things that didn't go as planned. They give us some notes and tips on how to stay organized on Sunday mornings and help the service run as smoothly as possible.

www.worshipministryschool.com

In today's episode, Luke, Adam, and Erik talk about The Reset by Jeremy Riddle. They discuss how this book can be helpful as ministry leaders navigate using production and technology tools while continuing to be rooted in true worship. In the world of technology that we live in, it can be so easy for leaders to get caught up in how good the production is that the heartbeat of worship can get lost.

www.worshipministryschool.com

https://www.amazon.com/Reset-Returning-Worship-Undivided-Devotion/dp/1736266691

The Reset: Returning to the Heart of Worship and a Life of Undivided Devotion

In this episode, Luke, Adam, and Eric have a conversation about At Your Best, written by Carey Nieuwhof. The team chats about how this book can be a fantastic resource for worship ministry leaders trying to navigate time, energy, and priorities.

www.worshipministryschool.com

https://www.amazon.com/At-Your-Best-Priorities-Working/dp/0735291365/ref=sr_1_2?crid=30ABV2YPZPOVT&keywords=at+your+best+carey+nieuwhof&qid=1644002824&sprefix=at+you%2Caps%2C97&sr=8-2

At Your Best: How to Get Time, Energy, and Priorities Working in Your Favor

In today's episode, Jake, Luke, and Adam have a casual conversation about what they are currently working on in their worship ministry roles. They discuss a few ideas that are helping them stay organized and prepared. They also talk about the potential of hiring a Churchfront intern soon.

www.worshipministryschool.com

In today's episode, Jake, Luke, and Adam talk about leadership in the context of Worship Ministry. As they discuss their personal experiences in worship ministry, we learn what has helped them grow and learn as leaders. This discussion is full of great insight and tips for worship ministry leaders that are pursuing growth in their leadership skills.

www.worshipministryschool.com

In this episode, we hear Jake Espy's live presentation from the most recent Churchfront Live event. Jake started as a worship leader at Red Rocks Church, but he is now one of the primary producers for Red Rocks Worship. Jake talks about his personal experience writing and producing and discusses the significance of writing new worship songs for the local church.

www.worshipministryschool.com

www.churchfrontlive.com

In today's episode, we get a sneak peek at Luke Hendrickson's breakout session from our most recent Churchfront Live Event. Luke is one of the most talented mix engineers with over ten years of experience, and he serves on staff at Bethel Church. Luke talks about his story and his experience mixing, and he gives us all advice on how we can improve. Whether you are an experienced mix engineer or you are just beginning, there is something that you can take away from today's episode.

https://www.churchfrontlive.com/

www.worshipministryschool.com

https://productiononline.com/

In today's episode, we have the privilege of hearing Zac Hicks' keynote presentation from the November 2021 Churchfront Live event. Zac's presentation contains helpful information and advice for everyone that is involved in worship ministry. Zac discusses how to bridge the gap between technology and theology, and he gives us wisdom on how to balance both in our worship ministries.

https://www.amazon.com/Worship-Pastor-Ministry-Leaders-Teams/dp/0310525195

https://www.churchfrontlive.com

www.worshipministryschool.com

The Worship Pastor: A Call to Ministry for Worship Leaders and Teams

In today's episode, we have the privilege of hearing from author Khalia J. Williams. She introduces us to her new book, Theological Foundations of Worship,and talks about how this book can be a fantastic resource for those serving in Worship Ministry. Khalia discusses the thought behind the topics that are covered by her and the other authors that contributed to the chapters of Theological Foundations of Worship.

Theological Foundations of Worship: Biblical, Systematic, and Practical Perspectives by: Khalia J. Williams and Mark A. Lamport

http://www.bakerpublishinggroup.com/

Instagram: @ladykjw

Facebook: Khalia J. Williams

https://worshipministryschool.com/

In today's episode, we will be getting a sneak peek of Matt Morgan's breakout session from our last Churchfront Live Event. In this breakout session, Matt Morgan talks about his journey in tech ministry and what he has learned along the way. This episode is filled with great insight and ideas on how to build a thriving and healthy Tech Ministry.

www.worshipministryschool.com

https://www.churchfrontlive.com/

Today's conversation; focuses on resources that are available to worship leaders and those who are called to full-time ministry. Dr. Matthew Westerholm discusses his story and unpacks his life of ministry. He also talks about his involvement with the Norton Hall Band and how they are creating great resources for the modern church. Through every job and calling, he has gathered some great advice and resources that have helped him along the way and hopefully will also help us in our lives in ministry.

www.biblicalworship.com

https://www.sbts.edu/bgs/biblical-worship/norton-hall-band/

www.southernseminary.com/admissions

The Trellis and the Vine - Colin Marshall and Tony Payne

https://www.amazon.com/Trellis-Vine-Ministry-Mind-Shift-Everything/dp/1921441585

The Shepherd Leader - Timothy Z. Witmer

https://www.amazon.com/Shepherd-Leader-Achieving-Effective-Shepherding/dp/1596381310

Don't Lose Heart - Jason Meyer

https://www.amazon.com/Dont-Lose-Heart-Gospel-Discouraged/dp/0801094429

Theology

Concise Theology - J.I. Packer - https://www.amazon.com/Concise-Theology-Historic-Christian-Beliefs/dp/0842339604
The Christian Life - Dr. Sinclair Ferguson -https://www.amazon.com/Christian-LIfe-Doctrinal-Introduction/dp/1848712596
Engaging with God - David Peterson - https://www.amazon.com/Engaging-God-Biblical-Theology-Worship/dp/0830826971
The Institutes of the Christian Religion - John Calvin - https://www.amazon.com/Institutes-Christian-Religion-John-Calvin/dp/1463562837

History

Generations of Praise - Bruce Shields, David Butzu - https://www.amazon.com/Generations-Praise-History-Bruce-Shields/dp/0899009417
Church History in Plain Language - Bruce Shelly - https://www.amazon.com/Church-History-Plain-Language-Fourth/dp/1401676316
Christ Centered Worship - Bryan Chapell - https://www.amazon.com/Christ-Centered-Worship-Letting-Gospel-Practice/dp/0801098114

Music

The Art of Worship - Greg Scheer - https://www.amazon.com/Art-Worship-Musicians-Leading-Modern/dp/080106709X
Resounding Truth - Jeremy Begbie - https://www.amazon.com/Resounding-Truth-Christian-Engaging-Culture/dp/0801026954

Prayer

Valley of Vision - Arthur Bennett - https://www.amazon.com/Valley-Vision-Collection-Puritan-Devotions/dp/0851512283
Prone to Wander - Barbara Duguid, Wayne Houk - https://www.amazon.com/Prone-Wander-Prayers-Confession-Celebration/dp/159638879X
Tune my Heart - Scott Aniol - https://www.amazon.com/Tune-Heart-Narratives-Devotional-Individuals/dp/0999431765
Every Moment Holy - Douglas McKelvey - https://www.amazon.com/Every-Moment-Douglas-Kaine-McKelvey/dp/0998311235

Worship

Worship Matters - Bob Kauflin - https://www.amazon.com/Worship-Matters-Leading-Encounter-Greatness/dp/158134824X
Rhythms of Grace - Mike Cosper - https://www.amazon.com/Rhythms-Grace-Churchs-Worship-Gospel/dp/1433533421
The Worship Pastor - Zac Hicks - https://www.amazon.com/Worship-Pastor-Ministry-Leaders-Teams/dp/0310525195
Corporate Worship - Matt Merker - https://www.amazon.com/Corporate-Worship-Gathers-Building-Churches/dp/1433569825

The Shepherd Leader: Achieving Effective Shepherding in Your Church

The Trellis and the Vine: The Ministry Mind-Shift That Changes Everything

The Art of Worship: A Musician's Guide to Leading Modern Worship

Engaging with God: A Biblical Theology of Worship

Resounding Truth: Christian Wisdom in the World of Music (Engaging Culture)

Corporate Worship: How the Church Gathers as God's People (9Marks: Building Healthy Churches)

The Christian Life

Rhythms of Grace: How the Church's Worship Tells the Story of the Gospel

Don't Lose Heart: Gospel Hope for the Discouraged Soul

Concise Theology: A Guide to Historic Christian Beliefs

Prone to Wander: Prayers of Confession and Celebration

The Worship Pastor: A Call to Ministry for Worship Leaders and Teams

Worship Matters

Christ-Centered Worship: Letting the Gospel Shape Our Practice

Institutes of the Christian Religion

Church history in plain language updated 4th edition

Generations of Praise: The History of Worship

Tune My Heart: Bible Narratives Devotional Guide for Families or Individuals

Every Moment Holy

The Valley of Vision: A Collection of Puritan Prayers & Devotions

In this conversation, Calvin Theological Seminary professor and co-author Dr. Cory B. Wilson unpacks his book and discusses the topics of Worship and Work. Cory takes us on a journey through his personal experiences and his research for co-writing Work and Worship. This episode has fantastic advice on allowing your work to be influenced by worship, and have a better understanding of how offering all aspects of your life to Jesus can bring transformation to your life and the life of others.

Answering God by Eugene Peterson

Work and Worship by Matt Kaemingk and Cory B. Wilson

http://bakerpublishinggroup.com/bakeracademic

www.workandworshipbook.com

https://www.heartsandmindsbooks.com/

www.worshipministryschool.com

Fred Saurmann part two! This conversation is focused around the idea of faithfully stewarding a technology budget - understanding the benefits of not being an early adopter, documenting machine usage and anticipating computer life cycles. This episode has a lot of great examples of how to future-proof your equipment.

www.owc.com
https://mxu.rocks/podcast/

www.worshipministryschool.com

Fred Saurmann joins us again after a year and shares more of what he's learned about building and training a production team and setting up their systems for audio, video and lighting.

March 30, 2020 Episode:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/churchfront-worship-leader-podcast/id1276338360?i=1000469954812

worshipministryschool.com

In the first of this new series, Luke and Ryan Dahl from Praisecharts talk about the lyrical content, musicality and stories behind the latest worship songs!

Listen to the songs here:

http://bit.ly/Churchfront-New-Worship-Song-Review_AppleMusic

http://bit.ly/Churchfront-New-Worship-Music-Review_Spotify

praisecharts.com/live

worshipministryschool.com

Patrick shares his story of calling to ministries, furthering his education through Worship Ministry school and the growth he has seen from it.

Worship Ministry School: www.worshipministryschool.com

PLBCJAX.org
Socials: @patricklima

Patrick's Church's today
Patrick's Church 1 year ago

https://worshiponline.com/
https://worshiponline.com/
Then Sings My Soul: https://amzn.to/3boKXLS

Then Sings My Soul: 150 of the World's Greatest Hymn Stories

The Songbirds of Passage join us for this episode of the Churchfront show to talk about music, #vanlife, their international travels and how they use music and worship as an evangelistic tool.

Steiger International: https://steiger.org/

YouTube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC_zlS1o_N9VUAShVboY6Sdg

Socials:

https://www.facebook.com/songbirdsofpassage/
https://www.instagram.com/travelhisroads/
https://www.instagram.com/travelmanyroads/
https://www.instagram.com/weareANAE/

Jake (a worship pastor) chats with Darvin (a lead pastor) about some unspoken expectations pastors have for worship leaders - a great starter conversation and reminder that the relationship between the worship pastor and lead pastor is so important! Let this be a catalyst to keep developing your church staff relationships.

https://missionlakewood.com/mission-u

www.worshipministryschool.com

In this conversation, Luke chats with songwriter and author Matt Merker. Matt is a part of Getty Music and the Hymn Writing Collective

Sing Global: https://gettymusicworshipconference.com/

Hymn Writing Collective: https://www.gettymusic.com/hymnwriting

Gather Gods People: https://amzn.to/3wG7sov

Matt's book: https://amzn.to/3d33YVw

Matt's Twitterverse: https://twitter.com/MerkerMatt?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor

www.worshipministryschool.com

Gather God's People: Understand, Plan, and Lead Worship in Your Local Church (Practical Shepherding Series)

Corporate Worship: How the Church Gathers as God's People (9Marks: Building Healthy Churches)

This week on the Churchfront Show we are joined by videographer Drake Kelch! We chat about a lot of fun things on this episode.

Check out the live stream on YouTube here: https://youtu.be/DVDN26MrfXg

Octane AVL
https://www.octaneavl.com/

Bethel Production YouTube Channel:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCzBv06Vjcs61gYc8KWTJVQw

Red Komodo Cinema Camera
https://www.red.com/komodo

Luke has a conversation with one of our Worship Ministry School students who shares her story and experience with Worship Ministry School.

Thanks to Charley for sharing with us!

If you're interested in growing yourself and your ministry, head to worshipministryschool.com/apply

On this episode of the Churchfront show, we have Nate and Daniel from Resi in the studio to talk about the streaming platform Resi.

In this episode we talk about the importance of stewarding your church's worship ministry budget well and what to avoid in order to not waste money.

www.worshipministryschool.com

In this episode we focus on why Jake has transitioned to a different church and some other general life updates.

www.worshipministryschool.com

Peter James Resources
https://www.multitracks.com/producers/Peter-James/
https://www.instagram.com/peterajames/

Gear Mentioned

Apollo Twin X
https://www.uaudio.com/audio-interfaces/apollo-twin-x.html

Nanolight
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1476410-REG/nanlite_15_2008_2kit_pavotube_30c_4_rgbw.html?sts=pi-ps&pim=Y

Worship Ministry School
https://www.worshipministryschool.com

This audio is from a live streamed YouTube video - check out the playback of the live stream here:
https://youtu.be/jf36oSzfRro

Black Magic Design Updates Live Stream
https://youtu.be/roAvRBAurE8?t=1653

Transformation Church | Welcome to the Deep
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-yW-nrSSJg

Join Worship Ministry School
www.worshipministryschool.com

Stephanie Olford (Ol~~d~~-ford) is a Ministry Manager at Harvest Bible Chapel - this mean she does all the things including lead worship, event management, office management, and is a licensed counselor as well.

IG @stepholford

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry by John Mark Comer
https://amzn.to/3a7mn1L

Vertical Worship Cohort
https://wlc.verticalofficial.com/

Lead by Paul David Tripp
https://amzn.to/3qdDpRB

The Band Camino
https://open.spotify.com/artist/6d4jrmreCmsenscuieJERc?si=c8detzYcTe6BPQy0nIBwzw

Christiancounseling.com

The Ruthless Elimination of Hurry: How to Stay Emotionally Healthy and Spiritually Alive in the Chaos of the Modern World

Lead: 12 Gospel Principles for Leadership in the Church

Welcome to the Churchfront Show!

This audio is from a live streamed YouTube video - check out the playback of the live stream here: https://youtu.be/0h3pDgaRCsw

Worship Ministry Toolkit
http://worshipministryschool.com/toolkit

Churchfront Facebook page
https://www.facebook.com/groups/churchfront

Join Worship Ministry School
www.worshipministryschool.com

Welcome to the Churchfront Show!

This audio is from a live streamed YouTube video - check out the playback of the live stream here: https://youtu.be/fY5i2bbAVNc

Renewed Vision
https://renewedvision.com/propresenter/

Renewed Vision Support
https://support.renewedvision.com/hc/en-us#contact-support

Join Worship Ministry School
www.worshipministryschool.com

Jake sits down to chat with his lead pastor to chat about things we can stop doing to improve as worship pastors.

The content of this conversation is so helpful, but hopefully it sparks a conversation between you and your lead pastor to find out how to work together better in your specific context.

Stop trying being somebody else
Stop singing unrepeatable (hard to follow) songs
Stop Relying on the confidence monitor for every lyric
Stop being a diva
Stop getting so wrapped up in the tech that you stop getting wrapped up in the Holy Spirit
Stop forgetting you are a theological teacher

www.missionuonline.com

www.worshipministryschool.com

Welcome to the Churchfront Show!

This audio is from a live streamed YouTube video - check out the playback of the live stream here: https://youtu.be/O5TXHSQ7lU0

Hey Worship Leader

Churchfront Facebook Page

Join Worship Ministry School

We talk aboutM1 Mac Minis
Streaming with ProPresenter/Resi
Broadcast Mixing with a DAW
and we highlight some new gear

Carey Neiuwhof article
YouTube Video of this episode
Apply for Worship Ministry School

Todd returns to the podcast to talk about the experience of having to pivot FILO to a live streamed event, his current experience at church, and dive into some topics from his his new book: I Love Jesus but I Hate Christmas - a book for technical artists. If nuggets of knowledge were real currency you'd be able to buy Bethel's entire touring rig after listening to this episode.

Todd's previous episode:
https://apple.co/3mYufH6

Connect with FILOhttps://www.instagram.com/filocommunity/
https://www.facebook.com/FILOcommunity
https://filo.org/podcast

Carson Elliothttps://spoti.fi/3gmqd8I

Get Todd's Bookhttps://filo.org/book

Luke chats with Jordan Hurst of Providence Church in Austin, Texas about songwriting for your church, the meaning of Advent and so much more in this great conversation!

PROVIDENCE CHURCHRecord: Long Awaited / You've Arrived
Spotify
YouTube

BOOKSPaul & the Power of Grace
Dynamics of Spiritual Life
A Long Obedience in the Same Direction
On the Road with St. Augustine
The Color of Compromise
Emotionally Healthy Spirituality
Emotionally Healthy Leader

A Long Obedience in the Same Direction: Discipleship in an Instant Society

By Richard F. Lovelace - Dynamics of Spiritual Life

The Color of Compromise: The Truth about the American Church’s Complicity in Racism

Emotionally Healthy Spirituality: It's Impossible to Be Spiritually Mature, While Remaining Emotionally Immature

Paul and the Power of Grace

The Emotionally Healthy Leader: How Transforming Your Inner Life Will Deeply Transform Your Church, Team, and the World

On the Road with Saint Augustine: A Real-World Spirituality for Restless Hearts

Learn about Noah's journey of music education, how he became a YouTuber, joined the team at Vineyard Anaheim as a drummer, the global church, and how he is using his experience to teach and encourage other drummers.

Worship Drum Kit Video

Socials: @DeBolt Drumming

www.deboltdrumming.com

Noah's YouTube channel

Luke Jackson shares his experiences and advice on inheriting a worship team - how to respond to feedback, how to develop a process and philosophy and connect with your team, as well as some great practical tips on how to carry this out.

Book Recommendation: Start With Why
https://amzn.to/3n0i38j

For resources and one on one help from coaches like Luke, check out worshipministryschool.com/apply

Start with Why: How Great Leaders Inspire Everyone to Take Action

Luke has a conversation with one of the Worship Ministry Students, who shares her experience and success with the program. Jana was able to upgrade to a digital soundboard, and begin streaming successfully. Not only did she learn more about technology but she was also able to equip her team better, plan services, integrate time-saving systems and lead transitions within the service better.

Succeed like Jana:
www.worshipministryschool.com/apply

Adam sits down with Frank Schabell, a lighting and technical director talk about the importance of putting God at the center of our work and being in community with other technical artists with the goal of not just advancing their own church, but being a part of the global church.

@chapelproduction
frankschabell.com
chapel.org

worshipministryschool.com/apply

Jake sits down and walks through 5 steps you can take to make your live stream experience look and sound better. Want to dive deeper and get access to our courses and coaching calls? go to www.worshipministryschool.com/apply

Listen in on a coaching call between a Worship Ministry Student and coach / instructor / Churchfront creator, Jake. They talk about where they are at with live streaming, where they want to go in the future.

We do our best to create courses and content that show you our best suggestions on how to live stream, but every church is unique. That's why coaching calls like this one is the bridge to quickly get from where you are to where you want to be.

For access to coaching calls like this one, apply to join Worship Ministry School

www.worshipministryschool.com/apply

In this episode, Adam reminds us of the importance and benefits of having your worship ministry organized and gives some practical steps to take to be more organized.

Garden City by John Mark Comer
https://amzn.to/2IJ8vj9

Essentialism by Greg McKeown
https://amzn.to/3jadUfB

Tyranny of the Urgent by Charles E. Hummel
https://amzn.to/31jvkR0

If you want to get organized and save time by getting access to thorough yet to-the-point courses created for and by worship ministry leaders, go to www.worshipministryschool.com/apply

Tyranny of the Urgent (IVP Booklets)

Essentialism: The Disciplined Pursuit of Less

Garden City: Work, Rest, and the Art of Being Human.

Jake breaks down the live streaming setup he's created for his church, Mission Lakewood in this episode - check out the YouTube video for a visual breakdown of this setup.

Advanced Multi-Camera Live Streaming for Churches

Mission Lakewood Church YouTube Channel

In this episode you'll hear about one of our students and her experience from being a song leader to a tech-competent worship ministry leader through the education and experience she gained through Worship Ministry School.

www.worshipministryschool.com

We are joined by Jaleesa of The Austin Stone Community Church. In this episode you'll hear her story of overcoming vocal surgery, falling in love with God's word and her part in leadership development at The Austin Stone, especially for women in worship ministry.

IG: @jaleesa_mac

jaleesa@austinstone.org

This episode was inspired by coaching sessions and the experience of our host Luke Jackson - there's a lot of great insight in this episode that is geared towards newer worship leaders, but is great for more seasoned leaders to be reminded of and revisit as well.

Christ Centered Worship - Bryan Chapell
https://amzn.to/33Kralg

The Shepherd Leader - Timothy Whitmer
https://amzn.to/3cdl0OI

7 Habits of Highly Effective People - Stephen R. Covey
https://amzn.to/35MAxUa

The 7 Habits of Highly Effective People

The Shepherd Leader: Achieving Effective Shepherding in Your Church

Christ-Centered Worship: Letting the Gospel Shape Our Practice

Chad Vegas is a successful video director with a lot of technical knowledge, but the heart behind his methods is what really makes the difference. This episode is the audio from an in-person video interview filmed at Bethel Church in Redding, CA - check out that video here: https://youtu.be/0ga68p-0MZs Chad's Mentorship Program: https://form.jotform.com/200705873269157?fbclid=IwAR0MFYOHz09_lFl9qCj3BycCckuigGfFG798LZDUvzhXCyULbEW0kGy6jDM

Meet Caleb - he's joined our podcast to share about his experience serving a local church as well as being involved in both FILO and Slingshot. In this episode, Caleb encourages us in understanding how to have difficult conversations with your team, understanding when it's time to stay or leave a church, and how to build up your tech teams to become more than just people who push buttons and faders during a service. FILO.org/staffing

The Churchfront team got to visit Bethel Church in Redding, CA. This podcast was a live interview from David Hislop's home studio where he shares his childhood, musical inspirations, and we get a glimpse into the life of one of Bethel's worship artists. Subscribe to David's Youtube Channel - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mi_QNN3aiD4 https://www.davidhislop.co/

In this coaching call episode, Luke chats with a Worship Ministry School student about inserting rhythms of rest and decompressing from work. To learn more about Worship Ministry School, go to www.worshipministryschool.com/apply

It is never too late or a bad investment to spend time learning more, growing in your craft, and gracefully receiving feedback. In this episode, Luke sits down with Jarryd from Austin Stone Worship and Jarryd shows humility in his story of desiring to bring excellent worship before the Lord. He also brings a ton of practical tips and lots of encouraging advice. Don't miss this one! jarrydmusic.com @jarrydforeman @jarrydmusic jarryd@austinstone.org https://www.austinstoneworship.com/ Designed to Lead (book) https://amzn.to/3gcAxiN

Designed to Lead: The Church and Leadership Development

Johnny has been doing sound for worship ministry for a while, and through Worship Sound Guy he teaches people of all skill levels to improve their audio. There are some serious golden nuggets of knowledge in this episode! https://www.worshipsoundguy.com/

https://worshipministryschool.com/

Luke chats with Alex from worshipministrytraining.com and they cover the gamut on all sorts of topics we find important at Worship Ministry School, but a few specific things you'll find helpful are their comments on unifying and edifying teams. Alex's podcast :https://worshipministrytraining.com/podcast/ www.worshipministryschool.com

Bethel is the gold standard when it comes to church production, and specifically their broadcast audio is top-notch. Luke is the broadcast engineer for Bethel Church in Redding, CA and shares some of his story and experience with us in this podcast. https://productiononline.com/broadcast-audio-template/

Sean is a worship leader, missionary, activist, and political figure in California, where singing in churches has been banned. He gives us insight on the current situation, how the church is responding, and how we should not let our worship be hindered. https://www.youtube.com/user/seanfeucht https://www.seanfeucht.com/

Jeff is a vocal coach with experience coaching vocalists from Elevation Worship, Kari Jobe, Phil Wickham, For King and Country and more with a heart for serving vocalists and the willingness to put the work in to move people towards excellence. Why does Jeff care so much? Because singing is important to God, and Jeff does a great job of explaining that in this episode.

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Drake Kelch shares his experience as Production Manager for Bethel Church in Redding, CA and what they're up to during the lockdown. Jake and Drake talk about live streaming, lockdown politics, work ethic, and more. Bethel has been a leader in production of online services, so this is an episode you won't want to miss!

David Leonard is a songwriter and producer - if you're a worship leader, chances are you've sang songs he's written. Jake and David talk about living in Nashville, writing & recording, All Sons & Daughters, and how the quarantine has effected worship leading.

In this coaching call episode, Luke chats with a Worship Ministry School student about how to ensure our song libraries are filled with the most important aspects of theology.

To learn more about Worship Ministry School, go to www.worshipministryschool.com/apply

In this episode, Jason shares the story of how the chart management app 'OnSong' began, and how it became a digital file management system to a full-fledged performance application, including the ability to control instrument patch changes, lighting changes, backtracks and more! Jason also shares about the exciting future of the application and how OnSong can be used as an all-in-one live streaming solution.

This episode is an excerpt of an Office Hours session with a Worship Ministry School student and coaches Jake & Luke. They discuss the importance and navigation of choosing theologically sound songs as we lead the church in worship through singing, and the stigma around using songs from big churches. www.worshipminstryschool.com

David explains how Sunday Sounds was birthed out of the idea that great sounds should be affordable and accessible. For this season of online church services, David and his team curated specific patches and sessions for you to simply plug in and successfully record a great sounding livestream with Mainstage. https://sundaysounds.com/ Promo Code: CHURCHFRONT at checkout

Adam Westlake from The Worship Initiative shares how to grow as a musician by not just copying others but grow in the understanding of instruments and music so you can be original in your musicianship. Adam also explains how the Worship Initiative trains with this method. https://theworshipinitiative.com/ worshipministryschool.com

Jake and Spencer talk about the gear, art, method, & techniques behind creating great videos for your church. Video is going to continue to play a greater role in your ministry, so it's important to learn how to create quality videos that clearly reveal the stories of your church being shared. Download Spencer's Gear Guide: https://guide.churchvideoschool.com/ The Ultimate Guide to Video Production for Churches: https://youtu.be/TfhJKybB3Fg Worship Ministry School: https://worshipministryschool.com/

Office Hours - Worship Ministry School student Crystal asks "How do you honor the older generation and integrate older hymns as well as integrate some of the newer hymns being written and plan with all generations in mind pastorally" Jake and Luke answer this question and further clarify the definition of a hymn, how to musically introduce & arrange newer and older songs. www.worshipministryschool.com

https://www.ecamm.com/mac/ecammlive/ This episode is the audio from a Facebook live Q&A at Ecamm Live Academy. Adrian and Jake answer questions about the practical how-to's of using Ecamm for live streaming, simulated live streaming, video/audio capture equipment, as well as how to direct, mix and edit online services. Live Streaming Course: https://worshipministryschool.com/live-streaming-course/

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Brady is THE MAN when it comes to communication in ministry. He is the creator of Pro Church Tools, helping you navigate the biggest communication shift in 500 years as well as leading you to "seize the 167" - taking advantage of the ability to share the message of Jesus outside of the single hour of a Sunday service. Brady drops some knowledge about website configuration, online giving, email communication, social media, equipment to capture content and more! Worship Ministry School

https://www.glennpackiam.com/ New Book: Worship and the World to Come https://www.ivpress.com/worship-and-the-world-to-come-dcw Twitter @gpackiam IG @gpackiam In this episode Luke chats with teacher, pastor, theologian, songwriter and author Glenn Packiam. Glenn beautifully intertwines his pastoral heart with an analytical, methodical approach to serve God's people through a holistic worship experience and understanding how the theme of hope is shared through song. To learn how to apply knowledge like this and have access to coaches, apply for Worship Ministry School today! www.worshipministryschool.com

In this episode you'll hear a coaching call with one of our Worship Ministry School Students.

He brings a question about how to lead and coach your vocalists on your team when they're serving in a supporting role.

If you're interested in this kind of coaching and resources in your ministry, head to churchfront.com/apply and we'll help you take the next steps toward achieving your goals in your worship ministry!

In this episode, I sit down with Todd Elliott - creator of FILO which stands for First in, Last Out. Todd has a heart for the technical artists in churches and tech directors alike. He's created resources, a great podcast and a conference for folks who serve the church in this way.

Anyone in worship ministry needs to see the value that technical artists bring to the ministry and know how to push them as well as care for them.

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In this episode, we give you a peak behind the curtain inside a coaching call with one of our worship leader school students and their question about picking songs that their team can get on board with and even inviting them into the process.

To be a part of calls like these and have our team of coaches in your corner, make sure you apply to worship leader school here

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Welcome to the Churchfront Worship Leader Podcast where we’re helping you lead Gospel-centered, tech savvy worship. Recently, the church is in an extremely unique time in its history having to switch to online platforms, online worship services, onine prayer nights. Basically everything moved to the web within just a few short days. And Churchfront wants to resource you with content that helps make that transition easier and more efficient. Don’t break the bank. Don’t panick. Don’t invest in a crazy amount of gear you don’t know how to use. We created a Live streaming for churches course for you that’s available at churchfront.com but we also are going to have a few special guest podcast episodes with people we think are at the frontlines of this whole COVID-19 pandemic and how the church engages a situation it has no rule book for! Just a quick note in this episode. You’re going to hear a crying baby - barking dog - both are mine. working from home amidst covid-19 is the new normal for folks and most of the daycares and schools are also not open, so if you hear some background noise, we’re just living in a new reality nowadays! Fred has been a real good friend for a lot of years. He serves at one of the churches I interned at and is one of the smartest, kindest, and definitely funniest guys I’ve ever had the privileage of working with. He’s my go to when I am making decisions regarding technology and the church! I hope you guys are as encouraged by his insight to this time in church history as I was. In this day and age, share these episodes with friends. Post them on facebook, send the link to someone who may need some insight. Let’s support one another with resources through this COVID mess. If you found this episode helpful, head over to apple podcasts and leave us a 5 star review and let us know what you liked about the show. It helps other people find the show when they’re looking for leadership resources. And we’d love to have you join worship leader school to help you achieve great results in your worship ministry. If you want to apply, head on over to churchfront.com/apply. And for more tools to help grow you and grow your ministry, head to churchfront.com SHOW NOTES: artlist.io Stream Monkey MXU TC Electronic Digital Bypass Broadcast Maximizer II Lifechurch.tv

Beginner's Guide to Live Streaming for Churches Course Churchfront Facebook CCLI Streaming License In this BONUS episode - Jake walks our listeners through the basics of getting started in live streaming for your church. We are all, every single one of us in the midst of this COVID-19 shut down, shelter in place in some states, overhaul of how we do things and that has radically shifted how churches have to operate. Churchfront put together a robust course to give you all the step by step actions you need to take to get your video, your audio, and your distribution set up to still be able to reach your congregation via the internet during this time. In this episode you’ll hear a 30,000 ft fly over view, but if you want more in depth training, right now our Beginner’s guide to live streaming for churches course is only 97 dollars. And we’re offering coaching alongside that if you’ve got a particularly unique situation that may need some more hands on guidance. We want to be here for you so that you can effectively reach your church even if it is by being more than 6 feet apart. Continue to do your part in the midst of all this. Stay safe, stay healthy. Wash your hands so slow the curve so that we can all gather with our church communities once again sooner rather than later. Like I said, our course is available right now to give you a step by step guide to get up and running for online services. In the midst of this time - pray for our health care professionals, pray for our first responders, delivery drivers, our elderly who are suffering, and the folks who are faithfully working hard at the grocery stores and gas stations. And pray for your pastors and church staff. They’re navigating something that has never in the history of the church been navigated before. If week to week things change, be gracious and support them. Ask how you can help. We’re all going to get through this, but only by getting through it together. If you found this episode helpful, head over to apple podcasts and leave us a 5 star review and let us know what you liked about the show. It helps other people find the show when they’re looking for leadership resources. And we’d love to have you join worship leader school to help you achieve great results in your worship ministry. If you’ve been putting off training your team, we’ve got resources and an online course library that is perfect to give to your team during this time to get them trained while they’re stuck at home! If you want to apply, and get your team equipped, head on over to churchfront.com/apply. And for more tools to help grow you and grow your ministry, head to churchfront.com

SHOW NOTES Churchmediadrop.com Brad Zimmerman Facebook Propresenter.com Renewed Vision Propresenter Instagram In this episode I sit down with Brad Zimmerman, creative director at Watermark Church and founder of Churchmediadrop.com as well as the voice and face of all those Propresenter tutorial videos.
We talk Churchmediadrop We talk working at a church long term And we talk Propresenter 7 This is an episode you won't want to miss! Don't forget to apply to Worship Leader School at Churchfront.com/apply

In this episode, I sit down with Adam who is one of our coaches and also teaches courses within worship leader school.

We talk about all things organizing yourself as a leader in worship ministry. We chat through how to plan big projects and small projects. We talk about our favorite tools and resources to help us get the job done!

If you're interested in enrolling at worship leader school, we'd love to have you - just head to churchfront.com/apply and fill out a quick questionnaire to help us take the next step to grow you and grow your ministry!

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Underscoring and the Art of Transitions

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In today’s episode, Jake and I sit down and chat about arguably one of the most important elements of your worship service.

It’s not announcements.

It’s not the sermon.

It’s not giving.

That’s right - it’s transitions but you already knew that based on the title of this episode.

Take a listen in on some of our best practices, tips, strategies, and mindset shifts needed when considering transitions!

In this episode we share with you a coaching call from one of our students in our worship leader school program.

Sometimes you step into a role where someone else has served and have to lay new groundwork. Sometimes there is a direction or leadership you don't agree with, or maybe there's no direction or leadership at all and you have to step in and cast new vision, set new standards, establish new expectations and rhythms.

That's exactly what our student brought to us coaches in worship leader school and we thought others could benefit from us bouncing ideas off of one another and coaching him through it.

If you're interested in working with us, go ahead and apply at churchfront.com/apply

Nathan's Website Nathan Larsen Youtube Nathan Larsen Facebook In this episode, I sit down and chat with Nathan Larsen. Nathan Larsen is a worship leader, a song writer, a producer, and much much more. We talk about arranging your worship songs with some creativity in order to prevent monotony. We discuss how to encourage playing dynamically with your team and how to resource your non-traditional musicians. Aaaand we finally discuss our confusion about people's disliking of hymns. Don't forget to apply to worship leader school at Churchfront.com/apply

In this episode Jake and I chat about one of our favorite resources which is the Church calendar.

You can learn more about the church calendar from the Worship Sourcebook which you can grab Here

You can apply to join worship leader school at the link below

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In this episode I sat down with Jake Stemo, a worship leader in the Kansas City area who also leads a ministry called Presence Worship with his wife and focuses on creating disciples as they train and develop worship leaders.

You can learn more about the ministry Here

To apply to be a part of worship leader school click Here

To get more tools to grow you and grow your ministry, you can head to Churchfront.com

In this episode I interview Ashton Turner and Jake Gosselin to get a behind the scenes look at their tour through Bethel Church's conference in Redding California.

You'll get insight to the vision for these tech tours, insight as to what they learned while they were there, and some of their favorite parts of the trip.

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In this episode, I chat with Robin from Martin Audio about gear installation, selection, and purchasing options for churches of different sizes. We dig into what questions to ask, what options there are when it comes to portable churches and everything in between.

To learn more about Martin Audio and their products, visit their website here

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In this episode, Jake and I talk about how to intentionally and pastorally plan your worship services. Whether you know it or not, your worship service order, or liturgy, shapes and forms your people as you go through the rhythms of worship each week, so we want to make sure you understand what those healthy rhythms are so you can see more engagement, and more disciples made.

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Worship Old and New

The Worship Pastor

Christ Centered Worship

The Worship architect

Worship Leader School

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Christ-Centered Worship: Letting the Gospel Shape Our Practice

The Worship Pastor: A Call to Ministry for Worship Leaders and Teams

In this episode I sit down with worship leader, coach, blogger, consultant - Nic Payne and we talk about a ton of great things about being a worship leader.

If you want to know more about Nic, hit up his website Here

If you want to apply to worship leader school you can apply https://churchfront.com/apply

In this episode Jake and I walk through what many of you are probably asking this new year and that is:

"How do I get my leadership on board with change?"

We had this question submitted on our facebook page and thought it'd be a great podcast episode question to give insight to.

Don't forget to hit up the ministry toolkit

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and Worship Leader School to learn more about having our team come alongside you in your ministry to achieve the results you're looking for this year!

In this episode Jake and I answer a listener question: Can I lead worship until retirement? This listener had some valid concerns about whether or not being a Worship leader would actually enable someone to live off a salary, save for retirement, and actually make a full on career out of worship ministry. Jake and I share our thoughts which are by no means perfect answers, but we thought we'd share and hope they are encouraging thoughts to some of you out there! Don't forget to check out churchfront.com/apply to learn more about worship leader school

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In this episode, Luke and Jake sit down and debrief a chapter out of The Worship Architect and how it impacts us as leaders and service planners. We highly recommend picking this book up if you're a worship leader or pastor of any kind. You can find the book Here The Worship Architect If you're interested in growing more theologically in your leadership, you can head to churchfront.com/apply to learn how you can walk with our team and grow in your ministry. Our team here at churchfront can come alongside you and help you achieve results not only theologically, but in so many other areas! The Worship Architect

Worship Architect, The

In this episode Jake interviews Andy Chrisman who you may know was in a music group called 4Him back in the day.

Now he coaches worship leaders in vocal technique and performance as well as hosts a radio show.

Andy dives into some great tips and wisdom on how to care for our most important instrument.

You can find him in the links below

https://www.andychrisman.net

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In this episode, you'll hear the audio version of part 2 of Jake & I streaming on Youtube answering your questions!

Don't forget to check out churchfront.com to learn more about how you can grow you and grow your ministry!

Brandon Oaks Website Brandon Oaks Instagram IHOP Kansas City Endless Mercy - Brandon Oaks Spotify Endless Mercy - Brandon Oaks Apple Music https://churchfront.com/apply On today’s episode we get to sit down with someone who is now a great friend, Brandon Oaks. Brandon has been a worship leader in Kansas City and we wanted to ask him about his role at the International House of Prayer, songwriting, musicianship, and everything in between. Brandon was kind enough to send us some of his music over from his most recent project, so all the music you hear in today’s episodes are from his new project you can check out in the show notes.

In this episode, you'll hear an audio version of a live youtube stream Q&A Jake and I did to hear your questions and give our answers!

Don't forget to checkout churchfront.com to learn more about how to grow you and grow your ministry!

On today’s episode, Jake sits down with Heights Music members, Surge, Surge, and Brett and yes there are two guys named Surge on the team. We work through all the naming through the episode.

Heights Music recently released an album we’re really a fan of, but even more than their recent album, we wanted to sit down and talk about how they care for their church in their leadership from the stage.

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In this episode Jake and I want to to help you get results by correctly and efficiently resourcing your team with the right chord charts & mp3 files for your team. It can be daunting to know where to start, so we dive into every option from CCLI, PraiseCharts, ChordPro with Planning Center, lead sheets, and Nashville numbers! Hopefully after this Roundtable, you feel like you have a good understanding of your options out there for resourcing your team, as well as our recommendations! How to Prepare Worship Chord Charts and MP3 files in Planning Center

In this episode Jake chats with Cody Patterson who is the Marketing Director for Renewed Vision which makes Propresenter software and many others that have been serving the church these days.

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In this episode, Jake and I sit down and talk about the secret 2 step process to finding and recruiting new worship team members!

It really is simple and it really is easy!

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In this episode, Jake sits down with Andi Rozier.

Andi is a worship leader and song writer at Harvest Bible Church in Chicago Illinois and also writes songs for Vertical Church Worship.

Andi has many great pieces of wisdom to share with worship leaders about how to stay in ministry long term, important questions to ask yourself, and things to keep in mind when it comes to your calling and leading others around you.

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In this episode, Jake and I discuss the leadership move that separates all the level 1 leaders from the level 10 leaders. Level 10 leaders have developed the systems to replace themselves so the entire ministry or business is not dependent on them alone - but it can run just fine with other team members.

This prevents celebrity culture and it sets the ministry/business up for success years down the road.

Below are some simple tool links to help you start replicating your procedures so you can hand them off to other leaders around you

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In today's episode, Luke sits down in person with Ben Haley who is a pastor at Calvary Englewood in Englewood Colorado.

Ben has served as a worship leader at the Calvary Family of Churches and has raised up other worship leaders to be sent to plant churches and be a part of church revitalization!

Ben and Luke discuss the importance of character traits in worship leaders when it comes to what we look for before sending someone to go be a worship leader.

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In this episode, Jake and I might catch some of you off guard totally caught in the day to day tasks forgetting that the season of Advent and Christmas Eve services are right around the corner.

We've listed a few resources below for you to get the most out of your planning and have listed a few of our favorite spots for go to material to incorporate.

Planning Center Online

The Worship Sourcebook

The Worship Initiative

Praisecharts

Reawaken Hymns

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In this episode, Jake chats with Dave Miller who serves with Slingshot as well as Leadership Pathway. Dave and Jake talk all about internships. Leadership pathway specializes in coaching churches on how to lead great internship experiences and partners the right candidates with the appropriate church. Dave mentions a lot of personality tests you can find in the links below that have great self awareness benefit to each person out there looking to grow in their leadership skills. StrengthsFinder Free DISC Assessment Enneagram Institute Leadership Pathway Churchfront.com

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In this episode, Jake and Luke sit down and Jake walks us through the setup and execution for sermon capture (both audio and video) at Mission Lakewood.

Many listeners want to know how to capture the video and audio for podcasts, youtube channels, and posting your sermons or services to your website.

This is not an in depth review of gear, but it is a 30,000 ft view of the processes you need. Anytime you hear a software or piece of gear, just apply whatever you use at your church to follow the steps.

How to Capture and Publish Sermon Videos Online - Youtube

Dante Audio Networking | Worship Ministry Setup - Youtube

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Wirecast Video Streaming Software

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G-Technology 1TB G-DRIVE mobile SSD Durable Portable External Storage - USB-C (USB 3.1), Up to 560 MB/s - 0G06053-1, black

In this episode, Jake has a conversation with Jonathan Malm.

You may know Jonathan from sites like Churchstagedesignideas.com

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or some of his books, one of his most recent being The Come Back Effect.

We chat with Jonathan about worship leaders and the crucial part they play in hospitality on a Sunday morning during the church service.

How do guests feel?

How do introverts feel?

Is there anything we can do to help?

We hope you like this episode and walk away with some of these questions being answered.

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Communicating for a Change

The Come Back Effect: How Hospitality Can Compel Your Church's Guests to Return

Communicating for a Change: Seven Keys to Irresistible Communication