Makers.dev: Recent Episodes

Chris Achard and Christian Genco

Chris and Christian build some software businesses.

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Chris is prepping for a couple of photo trips. Christian is trying to figure out how to talk to his ideal FileInbox customer. He's also wondering how much consulting to do and what that means for his time working on his own SaaS.

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Chris and Christian both went on vacation. Chris is getting back into Photography. Christian is creating user personas for FileInbox, and is getting more consulting gigs too. 

correction at 27:45 NVIDIA doesn't even manufacture their own GPU chips! They rely on 3rd party manufacturers too. 

 0:00 Fun number fact 122: Ozymandias 
 8:13 Chris vacation update 
 13:00 Photography as a hobby 
 23:42 tinygrad ML framework 
 28:28 Fileinbox user personas 
 36:15 Christian consulting 
 44:36 Home Depot adventure

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Chris is prepping for a trip to Iceland. Christian is trying to figure out exactly who is the target customer for fileinbox. Christian then tries to convince Chris that Firebase is the best platform on which to build a SaaS.

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Christian has been looking at ALL THE BABY GEAR and has opinions. Also, he's working on the serverless transition for FileInbox and is struggling with estimating how long features will take.

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Chris totally switches his diet and loses 17 pounds in 3 weeks. Christian went to Craft and Commerce and and takeaways for his business. He also figured out that his time estimates for FileInbox were way off.

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Chris finished the StableDiffusion Image competition, but realized he was seriously outmatched in GPU power. Christian has renewed energy for FileInbox after talking with Asia Orangio. We both walk through how to plan to get things done, and how to actually follow through on those plans. Christian is trying to hire an assistant and tries to figure out what he needs to do that, and actually pay them money.

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Christian has a potential customer conversation for clips.marketing that didn't feel very great. Chris joins a kaggle competition about gravity waves.

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Chris has his first full week of Google, and also got his prize money from the Kaggle competition! Christian wonders if he should focus more on clips.marketing as a consultancy, or as a service, or just focus on FileInbox.

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Christian tries to figure out where his customers are coming from, and how to get more signups for FileInbox. He also is trying to figure out what freemium features are best for clips.marketing. Chris starts his first week at Google. 

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Chris is prepping to start his new job. Christian got $157.126 per hour on his latest consulting project for Ali Abdall, and is now wondering if he should spend a lot more time on clips.marketing instead of FileInbox. 

00:00 Intro 
 01:07 Prepping to start a job 
 07:51 Acornchat changes 
 13:20 Marketing ideas outside an app store 
 17:34 Consulting project for Ali Abdaal 
 24:01 RailsSaaS conference 
 29:13 No progress on FileInbox 
 34:13 Stringing pearls 
 37:27 Being close to the audience of clips.marketing 

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 iFixit toolkit: https://www.ifixit.com/Store/Tools/Essential-Electronics-Toolkit/IF145-348?o=5

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Chris gets a job! Christian talks about his latest marketing experiments, and wonders if he should start working on clips.marketing again. 

00:00 Intro 
 01:28 Google Photos DevRel role 
 03:52 What about acornchat? 
 05:20 Compensation at FAANG companies 
 09:03 Salary negotiation 
 11:34 Hiring freeze 
 12:33 Using Google ads for FileInbox 
 23:13 Promoted tweet experiment 
 25:57 Education as marketing 
 28:04 Low price file sending plan? 
 34:01 Detecting bots 
 36:25 Consulting project update 
 41:47 clips.marketing ideas 
 48:35 $20k sewer repair 

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Christian quickly bought a google ad for Chris (for acornchat), but there were some unexpected results that required a lot more tweaking. Christian is doing a consulting project and enjoying it, and is wondering how to get more projects like that one. 

00:00 Intro 
 02:15 Dedicated marketing days 
 03:07 Buying google ads 
 08:45 Adding more documentation for certain install paths 
 15:37 Conversion tracking and SEO 
 17:32 Google metadata tip 
 20:23 Filesize vs memory error in Google cloud 
 25:24 Building file sending in a day 
 32:28 Consulting tasks and rate 
 38:53 Tackling a personal email backlog with an EA 
 46:59 Building cabinet drawers 

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Chris gets another customer for acornchat, which is 100% user growth! Christian is thinking about marketing for FileInbox using SEO, youtube, a new feature, and more. 

00:00 Intro 
 05:55 2nd Acorn Chat user 
 09:18 Buying Google ads seems hard 
 16:35 Winning $5k from Kaggle 
 21:54 Twitter recommendations 
 30:09 FileInbox SEO changes 
 38:04 Youtube is underused for SaaS 
 45:34 File sending feature as a marketing channel 
 52:11 Serverless transition - using less memory 
 58:04 Doing more consulting 
 01:03:51 Making cabinets 

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 Twitter recommendations: 

 Massimo: https://twitter.com/rainmaker1973 
 WeRateDogs: https://twitter.com/dog_rates 
 PUNS: https://twitter.com/thepunnyworld

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Chris wins $5k from Kaggle! Christian fixes some bugs and picks up woodworking to fix his new organization troubles. 

00:00 Intro 
 02:43 Winning $5000 in an AI competition 
 12:10 The hardest problem in the competition 
 24:41 AI master's class 
 32:15 AcornChat: why people switch 
 38:32 Motivation comes and goes 
 42:03 FileInbox bugs and features 
 49:26 SegMetrics Analytics 
 54:27 Woodworking hobby 
 58:42 Cleaning and organizing 
 01:01:39 iPhone vs Android 

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We've reached 10,000 downloads for makers.dev! (a while ago). Chris has started his next master's class and is working on AcornChat. Christian is doing end-to-end testing with Playwright, and is still trying to figure out how to get better metrics for FileInbox. 

00:00 10,000 downloads 
 00:54 3 redactions 
 03:29 Kaggle CTF updates 
 07:24 Learning things through challenges 
 10:43 Case studies in Machine Learning 
 15:33 AcornChat updates 
 19:59 Violent and original work 
 28:14 End to end testing 
 40:13 Metrics and analytics 
 45:43 Running paid ads? 
 48:52 How to throw a good party 
 52:35 Talking to strangers 
 54:44 CO2 levels indoors 

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Christian came to Indy! Chris started his new ML class and is onboarding his first AcornChat customer. Christian tries to figure out a way to test dropbox file uploads.

00:00 Intro 01:28 Kaggle 4th place 04:04 AcornChat motivation 08:12 Case studies in machine learning 10:29 Christian's travels 12:27 How to test Fileinbox 14:40 File uploads to dropbox 20:14 Next steps for fileinbox

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Christian got married! Chris got his first paying customer for AcornChat. 

00:00 Intro 
 01:24 First paying customer 
 07:32 Heroku is removing the free tier 
 10:43 Kaggle CTF competition 
 20:13 Taxes 
 24:36 Killing grass weeds 
 30:03 Next marketing thing for acornchat 
 39:48 💍🎉 Christian got married! 
 47:15 2nd customer migrated for fileinbox 
 51:43 Next marketing channel for fileinbox 
 56:22 Youtube as a search platform 
 59:57 TikTok for B2B saas? 
 01:05:36 Smartwatch for kids 

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Christian is in up state New York so he hasn't done much SaaS stuff this week - but he is preparing his business taxes. Yippee! Chris is recovering from being sick, so he's working on an AI security competition on Kaggle. 

00:00 Intro 
 03:19 Kaggle DefCon AI security competition 
 15:07 DALLE prompts and AI art 
 22:40 Tricks to make AI art generators output a specific style 
 24:31 Systems to reduce friction 
 28:37 Business taxes 
 37:56 Full sized CNC machine 
 40:28 Neat wedding gifts with 3d printers 
 43:41 Manual labor 

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Chris got covid; Christian is in upstate New York, and wonders about a new marketplace project. 

00:00 Intro 
 05:09 AcornChat feature requests 
 12:41 Marketing for acornchat 
 15:23 What do you use for analytics? 
 21:20 Outreach strategies 
 29:59 GPS Gold Medal 
 32:57 AI driving to the woods 
 39:28 Weird birthday project with artist commisions 
 55:15 FileInbox 

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AcornChat has real users now! Christian loves how TDD makes his code bulletproof. 

00:00 Intro 
 06:58 Kaggle GPS update 
 14:09 AcornChat real users 
 15:33 Reaching out to users is hard 
 19:00 Analytics 
 27:50 MarketingChangelog ? 
 30:32 FileInbox work time 
 33:55 New features for fileinbox 
 35:16 TDD 
 41:45 Dropbox OAuth 
 43:09 File uploads and virus scanning 
 48:32 SEO links 
 50:03 How to get MRR up faster 
 52:42 Personal updates 

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Chris had his name and face on a billboard. Christian is pushing forward FileInbox stuff, and is looking for the next marketing task. 

00:00 Intro 
 01:40 Face on a billboard 
 10:10 How to evoke emotion 
 11:09 Marketing strategies work until they don't 
 14:38 AcornChat trials 
 21:17 DALL-E 2 
 25:21 Kaggle GPS 
 28:12 Free shirt 
 30:01 FileInbox SEO 
 32:08 Live video chat widget 
 34:46 Next marketing activity 
 38:14 Next projects for EA 
 45:23 Paramotoring is dangerous 

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Chris is tired of coding. Christian has too many ideas and should focus on SEO. 

00:00 Intro 
 03:53 AcornChat on Slack App Store 
 06:01 Developer advocate 
 11:42 Grass is greener 
 17:38 Three years 
 21:07 Controversial figures 
 25:07 Don't break the chain 
 27:03 Josh Kaufman's personal master plan 
 30:17 Therapy is great 
 30:42 SEO 
 39:44 Sending large files: Hot take 
 51:20 Rails vs serverless 
 53:53 Increase revenue 

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Christian has been reading the book "Traction" by Gabriel Weinberg and Justin Mares and has 5 marketing hot take ideas that he wants feedback on. 

00:00 Intro 
 03:33 Kaggle updates 
 07:58 AcornChat resubmitted 
 09:54 Cold call update 
 12:33 Traction book about marketing 
 17:56 Marketing hot take #1: Blogs 
 26:16 #2: Publicity 
 33:46 #3: Unconventional publicity 
 41:08 #3a: Live video feed of Christian 
 43:28 Intermission 
 45:59 #3b: How Jason Bourne would send files 
 51:12 #4: Search engine marketing 
 55:19 #5: Social and display ads 
 01:03:37 AcornChat in the Slack App Store! 

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We talk with Johnny Tong about how he bought a SaaS and is now struggling to grow it. Should he rebuild it? Dive into marketing? Rework the onboarding flow? Buy a bunch of ads? 

00:00 Intro 
 02:47 What Johnny is looking for 
 10:01 SurveyBot overview 
 15:29 Buyer's guide 
 22:00 "The funnel" 
 28:45 Onboarding friction 
 33:49 The ups and downs of build vs buy 
 41:19 Conversion rate 
 44:19 Marketing vs coding 
 50:47 The end goal 
 57:43 Getting professional help 
 59:00 Deeper understanding 

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 Buy Grow Repeat Podcast: https://buygrowrepeat.com/ 
 Find Johnny here: https://twitter.com/johnnytong 

 Books: 

 - The War of Art 
 - The Artist's Way

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Christian went to Greece and got a new perspective on how he could be living. Chris resubmitted AcornChat to the Slack app store and finished up a Kaggle competition. 

00:00 Intro 
 03:17 AcornChat submitted to the Slack app store 
 06:40 Kaggle Patent competition 
 16:51 Reinforcement learning 
 21:06 Covid (again) 
 25:40 Building a Second Brain 
 38:05 On Looking 
 47:14 FileInbox cold calling 
 53:24 Consulting update 
 56:26 Switching to iOS 

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 Book recommendations: 

 Building a Second Brain by Tiago Forte 
 On Looking by Alexandra Horowitz

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Chris wants to spend a bunch of money. Christian got advice to do some cold calling, but it sounds spooky 👻. plus 2 bonus hot takes 

00:00 Intro 
 01:30 3d printer, camera and gpus 
 06:52 Kaggle update 
 15:49 Slack app update 
 17:52 Advanced Operating Systems 
 21:28 Rust 
 23:30 Personal productivity 
 25:30 FileInbox update 
 28:09 TDD 
 33:21 Firebase security rules 
 38:26 Spooky recommendation to increase MRR 
 43:16 100 paperclips 
 52:13 Hot take 1: Finance tracker (again but different) 
 59:02 Hot take 2: NFT project 

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Chris is prepping for an AI for JS devs course. Christian gets engaged! Also, he wants to get to $20k MRR in 12 months, so we talk about how that would be possible. 

00:00 Intro 
 01:28 AI for JS devs course 
 19:33 Too many Kaggle competitions 
 26:00 Christian gets engaged!!! 
 31:19 Parable of the pottery class 
 39:25 $20k MRR in 12 months 
 44:04 Do you really want that? 
 46:42 Is it better for customers? 
 50:08 Chris is mean and hypocritical 
 51:32 Personal life is all over the place 

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Christian makes an easy way to send email templates from FileInbox. Chris got a response from the Slack App Store, and is wasted a bunch of time on an ML bug. 

00:00 Intro 
 02:47 Chris's week 
 04:21 Slack app store 
 11:18 Working on things that don't go anywhere 
 16:36 Christian did a bunch of stuff 
 21:31 Fileinbox email system 
 24:03 What sells well 
 28:57 ffmpeg 
 32:18 Free Fileinbox for marketing? 
 37:40 3D printing bezier curves 
 45:24 Tick Tock development (again) 
 51:44 Just do stuff (again) 
 53:32 Tinnitus 
 57:59 How to read a paper 

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 pubmed.gov 
 https://arxiv.org/

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Chris is in 3 different AI competitions (anyone want to know how GPS works?) and Christian was gone and describes how it feels to get back to work. He's also selling a paramotor, so hopefully that goes well 😆 

00:00 Intro 
 01:07 Life and death reflections 
 07:00 Give yourself some leeway 
 12:10 Work is hard until it's easy 
 16:00 Kaggle competitions 
 18:17 Objective measures of learning 
 27:39 Christian wants Black Mirror 🤨 
 29:24 Different types of AI problems 
 31:15 How GPS works 
 41:46 Patent competition (NLP) 
 44:57 Bird Call competition (audio) 
 49:26 Slack app store 
 49:53 MarketingChangelog.com 
 53:14 Christian's week 
 54:53 Getting started is the hardest part 
 57:02 Other tasks and projects 

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Chris was on a trip, and Christian fell off the co-working wagon. Also, focus on authenticity (on YouTube, but everywhere too) 

00:00 Intro 
 04:06 Tests 
 08:57 Having a beginner's mind 
 10:32 Fileinbox bugs 
 16:21 Consulting 
 18:52 SaaS math is bananas 
 23:50 Talking to customers 
 24:31 Focus is fickle 
 27:20 Makers.dev early episodes 
 34:54 Youtube as a reliable source of information 
 36:17 Prioritize authenticity 
 50:18 Attaboy 
 54:13 Hot Take #1: personal private podcast host 
 56:49 Hot Take #2: ffmpeg as a service (again) 
 01:02:21 How to start working with other people 

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Chris created his buyer's guide for acornchat. Christian gets another contracting job and wonders how to leverage that or if he should try to get more similar contracts. 

00:00 Intro 
 00:50 SaaS buyer's guide 
 11:20 Look at all these salad dressings! 
 14:00 Machine learning theory and math 
 19:01 Fileinbox updates 
 24:37 Errands and engagement rings 
 32:09 Face follower contracting job 
 39:16 Making an automated Fiverr service 
 42:58 Modularizing code 

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Christian calculates his consulting rate per hour. Chris soft launched saastips.com and was immediately overwhelmed by email bot signups. After fixing that problem, it led to three new SaaS ideas. 

00:00 Intro 
 02:57 Launching saastips.com 
 12:25 Fixing fake bot email signups 
 18:54 Hot take #1: email signup saas 
 23:55 Hot take #1.5: better newsletter sending UI 
 32:29 Hot take #2: Marketing Changelog 
 39:11 $183.60 per hour 
 51:45 Back to SaaS 
 57:14 Hot take #3: Face follower 

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We chat with Tim Leland who runs a link shortener (t.ly) and a weather extension. We cover how he came up with the ideas, how he developed and marketed them, and where he sees the future of his products and Chrome extensions in general.

00:00 Intro

00:22 Tim Leland's start as a developer

05:24 The Chrome Extension Marketplace

09:52 Security concerns about Chrome extensions

16:21 Chrome change create opportunities for new developers

20:13 400k active users

21:48 How t.ly works and compares to other link shorteners

29:28 Marketing playbook

33:01 Chrome extension marketplace tips

37:15 Malicious chrome apps

40:35 How to make money with a Chrome extension

42:54 The hard parts of running a link shortener

49:40 What's next for t.ly?

55:19 Other marketing channels

01:00:56 Be simple technically, focus on marketing

01:03:05 Where to follow Tim

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Where to find Tim online:

https://twitter.com/Tim_Leland

https://timleland.com/migrate-chrome-extensions-to-manifest-v3/

https://timleland.com/extensions/

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We both share our takeaways from Microconf.

00:00 Intro

00:37 Microconf growth '22

07:46 Takeaway #1: Focus instead of niche

13:16 Takeaway #2: Buying is harder than selling

19:35 subpoint: have a buyers guide

27:18 Takeaway #3: It's OK to optimize for experience instead of growth

39:05 Tall poppy syndrome

41:37 Excited for SaaS again

46:20 A nice little Italian restaurant on the internet

50:28 Hot take #1: Google voice style frontend for Twilio

55:20 Hot take #2: Tree map for expenses in QuickBooks

01:02:00 Fixed audio

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🚽 “How to Craft a Story that Sells” by April Dunford: https://www.recap.app/april-dunford

🔍”How to Go-To-Market Across Many Verticals” by Asia Orangio: https://www.recap.app/asia-orangio

🐎”Ending Well: The Complex Psychology of Exiting Your Company” by Sherry Walling: https://www.recap.app/sherry-walling

☑️The 7-Figure To Do List: 29 Tactics To Level-Up Your Business In 60 Minutes or Less by Rob Walling: https://www.recap.app/rob-walling-2022

🚀”Here’s the exact method I used to scale to $100k MRR in 12 months”: https://twitter.com/nathanbarry/status/1512782207508643845

🌳Grand Perspective’s tree map: http://grandperspectiv.sourceforge.net/

🍝 “​​Nice Italian restaurant of the internet”: https://youtu.be/0CDXJ6bMkMY

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Chris almost has Acorn Chat feature complete and ready to submit to the Slack app store. Christian is getting close to finishing the serverless FileInbox v1. Also we talk about RSI and using voice commands as a potential way to limit injury.

00:00 Intro

00:37 Expectation maximization

06:06 Acorn Chat

09:10 Screenshots and video marketing

12:55 Simple can be a differentiating factor

17:50 New Kaggle competition - are patents good or bad?

28:21 AI can be both good and bad

31:48 All the Music

33:49 The Gap

35:48 FileInbox recording, uploading, and downloading

41:25 RSI causes and fixes

44:44 Talon voice control

49:22 Home automation architecture

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🔍 "The Gap" by Ira Glass: https://youtu.be/91FQKciKfHI

🎼 All the Music project: https://youtu.be/sJtm0MoOgiU

🎧 All The Music player: https://gen.co/allthemusic

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Chris is almost ready to submit his Slack app to the Slack app directory. Christian tries to figure out how to charge for work he wants to do for a friend. Christian also has ideas about home automation. 

00:00 Intro 
 01:08 Kaggle essay competition 
 08:16 Building a Slack app 
 09:32 The amount of time things take to get done 
 17:09 Administrative poms 
 20:12 Home automation 
 37:50 Doing work for friends: paid or free? 
 52:48 Fileinbox update 
 55:36 Naming things is hard 

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MeetingPlace is sold, so Chris is working on his next SaaS. Christian keeps getting stuff done on FileInbox, and wonders when he can actually fly with his paramotor.

00:00 Intro

02:28 Microaquired

09:29 SaaS feelings

13:23 Why developers are bad at marketing

16:31 What is the core functionality?

17:58 AcornChat development roadmap

22:31 Kaggle update

28:50 Getting work done one step at a time

44:42 Hobbies

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Chris finalizes the sale of MeetingPlace. Christian worries that he's getting too productive.

00:00 Intro

01:03 Completing the sale of MeetingPlace

11:33 Should Christian sell something?

15:01 Data science

16:14 Coworking progress

21:30 Open vs closed mode of working

32:09 Admin work

38:49 Three Body Problem

40:29 Paramotor Adventure

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Chris sells a SaaS! Christian tries to figure out what makes him productive. [Sorry for the audio quality! - it gets better next week]

00:07 Slava Ukraini

03:31 Selling MeetingPlace

08:43 Advice for selling a SaaS

11:21 Strategy to build apps just to sell

13:53 Motivation to sell

16:15 SaaS valuation calculations

20:30 Data competitions

22:51 Accountability buddy effectiveness

27:03 Time estimates are hard

30:41 Another app idea

33:05 So easily tricked

34:16 Open vs Closed mode

36:58 Goals for the next week

41:26 Administrative stuff

45:18 Talking openly about work issues

48:24 Audio quality

49:05 Allergies

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The Killer Combo of Free Content with Paid Promotion – Jordan Gal – MicroConf Growth 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9aLKqRuS7A

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Microconf is in 40 days! We talk about what we want to accomplish before then, and come up with a strategy to hold each other accountable and get stuff done.

00:00 Intro

01:18 MicroConf in 1.5 months

04:07 The next 40 days

10:22 Accountability buddies

15:13 AI competitions

19:13 Tesla safe driving score

24:20 Writing mini blog posts

31:42 Paramotoring

33:45 Flashcard app

38:54 The big SaaS idea for a flashcard app

42:17 Neuroticism

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Chris has to relearn a bunch of math and tries to figure out how to teach it as well. Christian has a new way to try to get things done by delaying work on his fun projects.

00:00 Intro

03:08 ML Math

08:16 Teaching as you're learning

17:57 Games that you can't lose

22:08 Anki flashcards app

31:55 New tactic to get things done

36:04 Making clear priorities for Christian's assistant

40:18 Have you ever made a french fry?

45:11 Tesla roadtrip

50:53 Paramotoring

57:08 FSD Beta 10

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Chris tries to figure out how to learn the math he needs for ML by teaching it. Christian buys a new domain name, then works on another project for 16 hours and tries to figure out how to deliver it.

00:00 Intro

03:38 Benefits of taking a break

08:28 How to teach math?

12:52 Am I a web dev or actually shifting to AI?

14:07 Snow water equivalent competition

19:23 Doge wordle

26:50 Feeling like a BOSS

34:45 Nerdle solver

38:31 Magic robot arm

43:10 Some people are controversial

52:17 Don't make work for other people

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Christian had a really productive week and would like to figure out how to have more weeks like that. Chris is doing well in a Kaggle competition and had to learn a bunch of math for ML this week.

00:00 Intro

02:11 ML math is like coding

08:45 How Kaggle promotes code and idea sharing

18:12 Balancing family life and work

27:20 Christian's super productive week

33:04 Stripe extension vs coding your own

35:36 How to handle feature flags

37:20 What can an executive assistant do?

43:10 Attaboy

49:07 Making SaaS videos (as a service?)

52:10 Wordle solver

53:32 Make more videos

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Christian's executive assistant experiment is going great. Chris has to learn a lot more math to do his ML class. Christian has great LEGO aspirations.

00:00 Intro

00:42 LaTeX

06:44 How to learn by teaching

13:28 ML for essay classification

19:39 Folding data into bins

25:22 Christian's executive assistant is great

38:13 FileInbox Stripe integration

46:33 Harry Potter LEGO

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Correction: 59 is prime 😆

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Christian finally gets an executive assistant! Chris finishes the pet kaggle competition and prepares to start the next semester of his masters program.

00:00 Intro

02:47 Chris cleans up

07:13 Adam Savage's rules for putting things away

13:16 Kaggle top 6%

18:34 Overcoming futile feelings

21:08 Public and private leader boards are different

27:13 Crypto trading is still gambling

28:46 AcornChat Slack App Store

30:48 Morning pages

34:33 Executive assistant for Christian

41:44 Stripe integration with Firebase

43:40 Whole house humidifier

46:31 Dude, where's my heart?

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Can we only get a lot accomplished if we have something more important to do that we are ignoring? Both Chris and Christian had productive weeks, but only by ignoring other things that we were supposed to do...

00:00 Intro

01:07 Getting stuck on features

07:25 Why features feel good

10:03 Next steps for AcornChat

11:04 Frustrated at Kaggle competition

17:21 Difference between cats and dogs

18:13 Applying AI to business

21:09 MeetingPlace features

22:18 Best way to do HTML embedding

23:15 Productive procrastination

24:21 Wordle solver

29:59 Getting things done only if you have something more important to do

32:34 Won't you be my boss goals

37:45 Dude, where's my Chipotle?

43:31 YC now offers $500k

49:51 We only get one life

54:13 Reading books gives you multiple lives

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Chris re-learns that to go fast you have to slow down. Christian rediscovers who his best customers are and tries to focus on getting more like them. Then he tries to sell a laptop...

00:00 Intro

00:27 Chris did nothing

01:26 Go slow to go fast

05:55 Software is magic

11:04 Dropbox api upgrade

19:01 Won't you be my boss?

31:16 Dude, where's my laptop?

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We talk to Brian Casel about launching ZipMessage and growing a SaaS business (vs a productize service). We talk to him about his previous business successes, how he got started programming, and how he's thinking about growing ZipMessage.

00:00 Intro

01:08 Brian's backstory

05:35 Scaling by hiring more people

09:40 ZipMessage

12:22 Audience Ops

13:14 Move towards software businesses

18:14 Christian's backstory

20:42 Chris's backstory

21:38 Tech stack: Rails vs React vs Laravel

28:24 ZipMessage company structure

30:26 Business structure: selling just part of an LLC

33:13 What to spending money on

38:18 Freemium

42:44 Buying a Tesla

48:01 Reading books

49:29 Investing thoughts

54:23 Outro

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The exciting finale of "Dude, Where's my Car???"; plus we talk about crypto: is it gambling? or is there a way to make money with it?

00:00 Intro

00:25 The Matrix Resurrections

03:49 VR Movies

08:29 AcornChat next steps

12:38 Work time vs vacation time

13:45 AI competitions

24:04 Crypto Trading Compeition

30:03 Efficient vs inefficient markets

32:01 Why you can't make money trading crypto

34:16 Markets and crypto

38:27 Crypto breads discipline in normal markets

40:53 FileInbox Dropbox deadline

43:31 Dude, where's my car?

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SaaS is complicated... Christian has FileInbox go down and has to figure out what that means. Chris works on his final lab and runs into issues. Also: what would you do if your car got stolen?

00:00 Intro

00:46 SuperTuxKart AI

13:05 Acorn Chat

17:47 FileInbox was Down!

21:06 SaaS is... complicated

28:25 Programming languages for SaaS

32:49 Dude Where's my Car?

43:28 How to deal with a car thief?

48:54 Health issues are like cold taffy

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Chris finished his final lab using MPI (used in supercomputers). Christian tries to get his car back, and then we both ask: do you have to be kind of a terrible person to be a billionaire? 

00:00 Intro 
 01:47 MPI to solve the n-body problem 
 12:40 Dude where's my car? 
 17:02 Spending money to make money is hard 
 21:25 Road trip in a Tesla 
 30:11 The relaxed pace of Barbados 
 33:54 Steve Jobs was kind of a terrible person 

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 Brains: Talking Money with Anthony Pompliano and Sam Parr: https://www.indiehackers.com/podcast/bonus-brains

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Chris builds an AI to play virtual go kart icy hockey. Christian wants to track his mood and talk to customers.

00:00 Intro
01:29 SuperTuxKart AI Control
13:51 Kittens idle game
20:06 Kaggle Superpermutations
27:22 Youtube good? Youtube bad?
34:50 The formula for retention
36:45 Christian's projects
41:10 Mood tracking
46:40 Theranos
51:23 Deploy Empathy
54:47 Talking to customers

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This was supposed to be an interview with Michele Hansen, co-founder of Geocodio and author of "Deploy Empathy", but due to interview issues that part was lost :(. Instead, Chris and Christian talk about the book and do a customer interview exercise from it - which worked way better than either of us thought it was!

00:00 Intro

01:24 Don't just ask what people want

05:10 You have to be bad before you're good

07:11 Customer interview exercise

08:31 Q1 Can you tell me about a product you bought recently?

11:02 Q2 Where were you when you bought this?

13:07 Q3 Were you with anyone else when you bought it?

13:57 Q4 How did you make the purchase?

17:21 Q5 Before you bought it, was there any open questions for you?

19:34 Q6 Where did you first learn about this product?

21:52 Q7 What did you do when you first came across this product?

22:53 Q8 What were you hoping this would do for you?

24:54 Q9 What other products did you try before this?

26:22 Q10 How did it go when you first used this product?

27:07 Q11 Can you tell me about whether it did everything you were hoping it would do?

27:51 Q12 Would you buy it again?

28:19 Meta discussion about the interview exercise

30:49 Audio book as a private podcast

32:06 The not-interview

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Stay tuned for a future episode that is actually an interview with Michele, or find her here now:

https://twitter.com/mjwhansen

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Chris has been learning Rust and has thoughts about strongly typed languages. Christian has been building "Treebooks" - a new way to read ebooks - and is wondering how to get customers and authors onto this new format. Also and update about Christian's passive income experiment of renting out his card

00:00 Intro

01:36 Chris's update

03:21 What has Chris's GPU been doing?

06:53 Does GPU mining of cryptocurrencies make sense?

12:08 Rust and strongly typed languages

19:08 Deploy Empathy book

24:51 Treebooks - a different way of reading books

37:43 How to get customers and books for treebooks

42:43 You don't have to solve everything - just make something a little bit better

45:26 Naming a process gives it power

46:23 Passive income experiment: renting out a car

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Chris is learning Rust for his next lab. Christian has been renting out his old car to someone who uses it to drive for Uber, and it makes us think about wealth inequality. Also: what actually is the metaverse?

00:00 Intro

01:33 Rust

05:28 Process for learning a new language

09:37 Worrying about memory size and resources

14:43 Custom designed silicon chips

19:34 Low level vs high level programming

20:43 Buying vs making wizard wands

26:25 Aliexpress

31:07 What is the Metaverse?

39:26 The best tech item to bring back in time

41:57 Renting out a car update

52:30 Switching between work and taking breaks

🎩 Christian opening stuff from AliExpress: https://youtu.be/mCfMk1NaFUs

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Chris gets a list of all 160 million registered .com domain names and tries to figure out what to do with them. Christian has been looking into Solidity programming and has some hot take ideas.

00:00 Intro

02:39 All the .com domain names

08:31 Using AI to generate new domain names

16:31 Twitter algorithm

17:39 What type of work do you want to be doing?

26:41 Motivation

28:28 Solidity programming

34:56 Hot take #1: unique blockchain auctions

37:52 Squid Game on the blockchain

42:12 Hot take #2: NFT Secret Santa

45:26 Hot take #3: Dead man's switch on the blockchain

48:33 Hot take #4: Embedded JS widget to make NFTs

55:44 Renting out a car (car as an asset)

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ICANN's Centralized Zone Data Service

https://leandomainsearch.com/

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What makes a tweet thread either go viral or go to zero? Christian talks about his recent tweet thread that didn't get any likes, and Chris talks about some of the ways he's used tweet threads in the past. Also: is twitter really the best medium for what we want to share anyway?

00:00 Intro

00:27 Diminishing returns and catching little bugs

05:43 The Go programming language

10:09 Deleting youtube and twitter experiment

22:26 The feeling of flow

26:37 Why tweet threads do well or poorly

39:04 Why do people click retweet?

40:49 The importance of consistency on twitter

45:46 Digital gardening

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We both took a road trip and was able to do some thinking about what he should focus on. We talk about if you should or shouldn't worry about competitors, and some good ways to focus. Then we delete twitter and youtube from our phones in an effort to regain some wasted time.

00:00 Intro

00:38 Deep thinking on a road trip

04:07 Losing interest once you have the end in sight

07:28 Worrying about competitors

11:50 Getting to "done"

15:51 Sticky notes on our monitors

19:38 Focus by being distracted

25:42 So how are we feeling?

34:48 OAuth deadline

39:17 Deleting YouTube and Twitter

42:04 M1 Max

51:55 Touchbar or no touchbar?

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Christian goes through a list of 20 potential marketing channels and we think about ways to make those work for Fileinbox. We also try to figure out what to focus on and how to frame the work we're doing as "experiments": with a hypothesis, success and failure criteria, and a completion timeframe.

00:00 Intro

03:25 Talking to people as an experiment

13:12 How to figure out what to focus on

15:34 Pushing work forward

16:55 Fighting yourself about what to work on

20:41 How to create work experiments

23:08 Tracking time: good or bad?

26:13 What a work experiment actually is

36:03 Fileinbox experiments

40:55 App store integrations

43:18 Tech debt

46:41 20 Marketing channels

55:30 Ranking marketing channels

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We talk about MicroConf Local Austin and MicroConf Europe: Do we need to be focusing on just one thing? We also come up with a framework for doing small experiments with post mortems as a way to push us forward.

00:00 Intro

01:23 MicroConf in 2021 vs before

04:54 Isolation as an Indie Dev

06:17 MicroConf Takeaways

08:45 Focus as a bootstrapper

16:33 Results oriented post mortems

21:39 MeetingPlace, or something new?

24:59 But why is MeetingPlace hard to grow?

29:08 Support Shepard to handle support

38:29 AI powered writing buddy hot take

44:03 How we things about a focus on growth

46:22 Fileinbox marketing channel

50:56 Post mortem structure

51:48 Potential FileInbox growth strategy

55:43 Riding a big wave with clips.marketing

01:00:17 Chrstian gave a talk

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How Veed.io grew to $1.7m ARR: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xgFGokLcq6E

https://www.supportshepherd.com/

Post mortem structure:

  • Timeframe

  • Action

  • Hypothesis

  • What does success look like?

  • What does failure look like?

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Christian has an idea for a financial visualization app and we talk about how to market it. Chris has been doing C++ recently, and has just started GPU programming.

00:00 Intro

00:16 What to do with GPT-3?

05:08 C++

07:41 Programming video games

09:38 CUDA GPU programming

13:23 AI loss functions

14:20 How Chris learns new things

15:34 Reading an ebook like a tree

24:43 Releasing an audiobook as a private podcast

25:43 Hot Take: visualizing finances with a treemap

30:11 Business accounting - do we have to itemize expenses?

35:17 Better understanding business expenses

37:37 Marketing a finance visualizer

41:52 Pricing a financial SaaS

42:35 Competition is good

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🤑 The Killer Combo Of Free Content With Paid Promotion

by Jordan Gal: https://microconf.gen.co/jordan-gal/

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A short episode this week: Christian is in Europe! He just got access to GPT-3 so he's really itching to play with that. Chris does his first big project for his masters, and is going to Austin in a few weeks.

00:00 Intro

00:51 Christian got access to GPT-3

09:43 C++ threads

15:45 Microconf Local

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Chris explores how a non-fiction writing buddy app might work. Christian ponders if freemium is a good fit for his app or not and talks about progress on his time tracking app.

00:00 Intro

00:25 We made attaboy.ai

01:51 Offline vs online AI

06:41 Deploying web apps with Vercel and Netlify

08:24 Non-fiction writing tools

23:20 Chris starts his masters

24:05 AI generated narratives

31:38 Is freemium a good idea?

43:05 Time tracking project progress

51:22 Talk to your customers

55:04 Holding office hours for customers

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Christian gives up on a project and Chris convinces him that it's actually a big win. Chris is about to finish his summer work and start his masters. Also: How much is a SaaS worth? Is $100k too much to pay for a SaaS that only makes $600 per month?

00:00 Intro

01:10 attaboy.ai

04:58 Chris finishes summer work

11:47 0-shot learning

14:18 The logistics of an online masters program

21:28 Wacky AI experiments

24:31 Instagram vs twitter vs tik tok vs youtube

26:58 First paying customer!

28:55 Give up on gmail integration?

29:33 tailwindui

31:12 Giving up once you almost get to the finish line

34:48 Building camhead in Electron

37:37 App Store vs direct release

42:23 meta time statistics

46:05 Product research as entertainment

54:52 Is $100k too much for a SaaS with $600 MRR?

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Who wants to take bets about when Tesla Bot will be ready? Chris is finishing up his summer consulting project and getting ready to start his CS Masters program. Christian spent 0 hours on fileinbox last week, and instead created a mini web app to show people's "life timelines"... was that time well spent?

00:00 Intro

06:25 Using AI for a large variety of problems

12:54 Tesla bot

18:05 Is Elon Musk a positive or negative role model?

21:46 Singular minded focus

24:39 Chewing glass and staring into the abyss

26:52 Life timeline - Christian's latest project

37:09 OpenAI Codex for code creation

46:40 Finding motivation

48:15 Why is OAuth so hard? (meta point)

51:37 Relationship with email

55:33 How to reach people like Christian?

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Demeo VR turn based "D&D" style game: https://www.resolutiongames.com/demeo

Life Timeline: https://www.lifetimeline.app/

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How do you feel about NFTs? Chris has finished his GPS competition and is now using his fancy GPU to generate AI art. Christian got clips.marketing past his internal goal line! Now he has to figure out the next steps. We also talk about a potential business idea for sharing family photos

00:00 Intro

00:14 Kids back in school

05:35 Chris got 5th place in the GPS competition

10:03 Learning new things: projects vs classes

16:43 Using AI to generate art

17:55 AI art web app hot take

20:57 NFTs

27:03 What would make NFTs interesting?

36:32 Generative games

40:09 The IKEA Effect

41:40 clips.marketing update

46:06 Software profit margins are silly good

55:15 Sharing family photos (as a business?)

01:08:58 TV photo frames

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🤖 robohash.org - generate random robots

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How do you decide what to work on every day when there's no one really telling you what to do? Christian thinks about ways to keep himself on track, and Chris talks about what motivates him to do Kaggle competitions (hint: it's not money).

00:00 Intro

00:58 GPS competition update

06:29 Olympics data scraping

08:41 Chris's summer work with Hidden Door

12:38 How to choose a day/time for different timezones

29:46 Productivity and the most important work you can be doing

35:54 Sometimes you just have to dig the hole

39:31 Show up every day

44:36 Different kinds of work and timelines

50:09 Purpose in life

58:52 Updates for next week

59:42 AI art

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Christian gets back from New York with an unwelcome update, but is plowing ahead by taking care of himself first. Chris has a new contract for the summer - his first AI position! Then we talk about how great SaaS is compared to other assets.

00:00 The Lost Episode

01:51 Health is important - take care of it!

08:22 The most effective productivity hack

10:15 GPS competition update

17:51 Chris's new job! (for 2 months)

22:43 Are educational games always too contrived?

29:22 Christian geeks out about Tesla

34:08 Can cars be assets?

45:58 SaaS is great

50:29 Automating customer support with an assistant

54:07 Finally taking SaaS seriously

59:37 Spending money to make money

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Personal assistants: https://www.gosquaredaway.com/

Support help: https://www.supportshepherd.com/

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Learning AI is like learning to program all over again. Christian tries to plan what an AI based text-bot business would look like. Chris talks about an AI coding assistant (we recorded this before GitHub copilot was released :0 ), and we both marvel as self driving cars.

00:00 Intro

03:46 GPS data competition basics

08:04 Time is hard

11:56 GPS data formats

14:45 The AI Hammer

16:43 Christian experiences self driving

18:21 Tensorflow.js

22:42 Prebuilt AI models

25:35 AI business idea progression

35:13 Self driving isn't self driving yet. Why?

38:40 Why isn't Christian's Roomba smarter?

43:50 Twitter OAuth flow

50:33 No code works great, until it doesn't

53:06 Clippy AI assistant for code

54:53 What are humans going to do when AI is good enough?

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Chris gets stuck on his kaggle competition and when trying to figure out how to move forward, started researching how to buy a farm :). Christian asks about how AI works and also talks about how he got ffmpeg working in the cloud.

00:00 Intro

02:20 The ability to take time off

03:48 Pushing forward when you feel stuck

09:46 Exciting work - buying land

16:37 Self driving cars

25:29 How AI works

40:01 What is the difference between AI and ML?

46:04 What is the future of work?

50:47 Robotics is hard

01:01:05 ffmpeg in the cloud

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Christian gets advice about how to focus to make more money... but is that what he wants? We also talk about how to start and maintain programming projects as a solo dev.

00:00 Intro

03:47 Chris's next week

05:20 Learning math for a masters - making a product from it?

10:52 Short form content plays better in today's world

13:56 What kind of assistant aligns with Christian's business goals?

19:34 Focus to make more money?

33:36 Using business skills for personal projects

38:46 How to start a new programming project

48:17 Syncing changes across projects

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🧮 3 Blue 1 Brown Linear Algebra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kjBOesZCoqc&list=PL0-GT3co4r2y2YErbmuJw2L5tW4Ew2O5B

🧠 Imperial College of London Linear Algebra for Machine Learning: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=T73ldK46JqE&list=PLiiljHvN6z1_o1ztXTKWPrShrMrBLo5P3

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If you could just spend money to save time - would you do it? Where is that line? Christian explores a personal assistant and Chris finally gets his new computer.

00:00 Intro

00:04 New computer

03:03 Camping and shiny toys

07:12 Freeze dryer

16:13 Exposing yourself to different ideas

17:43 Selling the core thing vs selling an experience

21:07 The value to the customer

25:07 Chris update

27:54 Apple is focused on the story

29:12 Novelty

32:30 Passion

35:36 Christian update

39:33 "Why don't you just..."

42:42 Applying work tools to family projects

47:27 Consumers are terrible customers

48:52 What is your time worth?

55:32 Spending money instead of time

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❄️ Home freeze dryer https://harvestright.com/product/home-freeze-dryer/

🥩 Alinea https://www.alinearestaurant.com/

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Even if you don't have ADHD, learning about your brain and how it works will pay dividends for your entire life. We chat with Jesse J. Anderson about his journey with ADHD, what symptoms to look for if you think you might have it, and some processes and systems you can try to get a handle on it. If you want to hear more, check out Jesse on twitter! https://twitter.com/jessejanderson

00:00 Intro

00:53 How Jesse came to learn about ADHD

03:28 ADHD symptoms and behavior

07:32 Where's the line? What makes a diagnosis?

09:08 It's not just willpower

09:37 Motivation and importance

10:19 Rewards and consequences

10:41 5 factors of motivation

13:31 Are these strengths or weaknesses?

14:39 Privilege and support systems

15:46 Reasons to get a diagnosis

18:33 ADHD and kids

20:20 What if you're stuck

22:56 Would you flip a brain switch if it existed?

27:42 Doctors vs therapists

31:00 Whiteboards help

36:05 ADHD effects on significant others

38:50 Co-morbidities

40:36 The "caretaker" role

42:38 Criticism and complements

48:47 Positive reinforcement and positive accountability

50:45 External systems and processes that help

01:00:04 Manufacturing urgency and gamification

01:02:02 Outro

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🧠 The ADHD Nervous System: https://jessejanderson.com/posts/the-adhd-nervous-system

🤪 You Mean I'm not Lazy, Stupid, or Crazy?! The Classic Self-Help Book for Adults w/ Attention Deficit Disorder: https://amzn.to/3x7CYem

🍬 I Love Lucy candy making factory: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NkQ58I53mjk

💍 The ADHD Effect on Marriage: Understand and Rebuild Your Relationship in Six Steps: https://amzn.to/3pxclgz

👶🏻 Stop Caretaking the Borderline or Narcissist: How to End the Drama and Get On with Life: https://amzn.to/3w5Uqjt

😠 Rejection Sensitive Disphoria: https://www.webmd.com/add-adhd/rejection-sensitive-dysphoria

🦸‍♂️ Superparenting for ADD: An Innovative Approach to Raising Your Distracted Child: https://amzn.to/3cpJVj6

⏱ Make Time: How to Focus on What Matters Every Day: https://amzn.to/3x5W9VY

📄 Tactical Time Blocker by Jesse J. Anderson: https://gumroad.com/l/timeblocker

📓 ReMarkable: https://amzn.to/3v2efGY

🌅 Morning Pages: https://www.chriswinfield.com/morning-pages/

🧭 Roam Research: https://roamresearch.com/

💠 Obsidian: https://obsidian.md/

✅ Due app: https://www.dueapp.com/

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Competition isn't bad, it's good! If you target a narrow market and tell your story, then people will buy your product just for that. This week, Christian figures out who to hire first and Chris preps for his CS masters to start.

00:00 Intro

03:13 Podcasts are cool

04:13 Next week: ADHD chat

06:28 Prepping for a CS masters

10:30 Teaching as you learn

16:38 Future Christian tells past Christian who to hire

26:36 Activation energy to hire someone

30:56 Choosing what you spend time on

36:00 Hot take: clips.marketing is B2-me

42:52 If you hit a wall, go for a walk

46:04 Competition is not what you think

48:50 Target a narrow market - pick your angle and tell your story

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Delegate and Done: https://start.growthlab.com/delegate-and-done/

Your World Class Assistant: https://yourworldclassassistant.com/

Great Assistant: https://greatassistant.com/

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Chris has big news about the next few years. Christian thinks about how and who to hire. Also, we talk about ADHD again: how to handle it, and what it means.

00:00 Intro

00:29 Meal prep

03:29 Solving AI problems

08:38 MS CS

10:40 Why get a college degree?

15:28 What makes someone a student?

17:10 Work in Progress update

19:56 Having more capacity to do work

25:48 Live streaming as accountability for work

31:50 ADHD behaviors and tactics

45:35 How to get started in practical AI

47:38 Who and how to hire help

58:44 Email access for a personal assistant

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Chris's Kaggle competition wrapped up and he finished in 5th! Christian goes on a hunt to figure out what is wrong with his parents house, and contemplates what the future of life and business is once an AI is better than humans at most things.

00:00 Intro

02:29 Chris finally bought a computer

12:39 GPT-3 and the future of AI

21:52 Home diagnosis

33:11 How do you curate when there's too much information?

35:28 Dusting tips with Chris and Christian

37:47 Negative externalities

42:05 Makermade CNC

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Burnout is sneaky. Chris and Christian talk about what makes work meaningful, and how to find that work. Christian talks about onboarding and how many info products get the checkout flow all wrong. Also, Christian is building a tiny house and is super excited about it.

00:00 Intro

01:29 Burnout

09:22 AI Update

11:10 What makes work exciting?

16:44 Work in progress

18:51 Deep learning machine

21:09 Meaningful work

23:28 COVID

25:17 Tiny houses

29:04 Improving checkout flows and onboarding

33:32 How to transition to serverless

40:58 Should Christian do a kickstarter?

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Book: "Drive" by Dan Pink

The perfect wall system: https://www.buildingscience.com/documents/insights/bsi-001-the-perfect-wall

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How much would you spend to increase your MRR by $1000? Christian thinks he has been thinking about customer acquisition all wrong, and could be spending a lot more to get customers.

00:00 Intro

00:26 Kaggle contest update

06:34 Christian had A WEEK

13:53 Making a super simple info product

21:48 How much is $1000 MRR worth?

26:57 LTV = ARPU / Churn

31:09 Acquiring a small saas or info product

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Profitwell blog: https://www.profitwell.com/recur/all

Microaquire: https://microacquire.com/

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Chris talks about overfitting to the public leaderboard (on Kaggle and in life), and Christian tries to figure out a direction for two different projects: a hierarchical book reader (or writer?), and his timetracking app: should he go more B2B, or be more like Scott's Cheap Flights or Nomad List?

00:00 Intro

02:48 Overfitting to the public leaderboard

06:48 Different approaches to life, business and problems

11:40 Buying a new computer?

20:04 SaaS Work in Progress and 30x500

23:03 Hot Take: hierarchical book reader

37:29 Hot Take: timetracker: B2B or start a cult?

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🎙🗺 Confronting Your Fears and Taking a Leap with Pieter Levels of Nomad List: https://www.indiehackers.com/podcast/043-pieter-levels-of-nomad-list

🎙✈️ Building a Million Dollar Mailing List with Scott of Scott's Cheap Flights: https://www.indiehackers.com/podcast/020-scott-keyes-of-scotts-cheap-flights

📺 Don't start a business, start a cult: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5gj7Qb9w_Kk

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Christian is out this week so Chris is joined by Matt Swanson (https://twitter.com/_swanson​). We talk about making decisions about features and user roles in his software consulting role, how he grew a twitter audience to 4,000 and what he learned, and "Boring Rails", his latest project, where he talks about writing software using the tride-and-true "boring" rails stack.

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Both of us refocus on the businesses we had when we started makers.dev, and we become each other's boss again. 

00:00 Intro 
 01:38 Taking breaks is good for work 
 03:52 Chris's update - AI plus WIP 
 09:25 Specific marketing next steps 
 21:39 A tool for finding "watering holes" 
 23:54 Make specific next steps and cultivate long term habits 
 31:12 Chris might buy a computer 
 34:12 The most effective way to allocate money 
 44:17 Should Christian transition to serverless? 
 49:44 Making plugins for every site building app 
 56:20 OneDrive and SharePoint integrations 
 01:03:58 Want us to "Hot Take" your business idea? 

 Timestamps created with https://clips.marketing by @cgenco 


 🧠 https://www.kaggle.com/c/indoor-location-navigation/ 
 🚀 joinwip.com 
 🔎 https://tweetdeck.twitter.com/ 
 🤑 The Killer Combo of Free Content with Paid Promotion – Jordan Gal – MicroConf Growth 2018: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C9aLKqRuS7A 
 🎤 https://softwaresocial.dev/
30x500 query generator: https://gen.co/qgen/

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Chris dives deeper into data science and complains that crypto currency miners are buying all the graphics cards. Christian talks about how to decide what to work on, plus has 6 new business ideas to think about.

00:00 Intro

01:11 Chris's projects

03:43 When to buy vs rent (graphics cards and more)

12:34 Trying to rise in a Kaggle competition

16:44 MeetingPlace - what to do next, committing to action

23:55 Mining Ethereum

30:40 Hot take 1: better YouTube suggestions

35:08 YouTube history tip

36:34 Hot take 2: solar system Oculus Quest app

39:23 Hot take 3: selling physical products

42:45 Hot take 4: a better way to read ebooks

51:51 How to parse an epub

53:35 Hot take 5: non-birthday cards

59:29 Hot take 6: paid coaching calls

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Links from the show:

📖 Permutation City https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Permutation_City

📄 How to Read a Paper https://web.stanford.edu/class/ee384m/Handouts/HowtoReadPaper.pdf

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Chris enters a Kaggle competition to expand his data science skills, and Christian tries to figure out what to work on and how to prioritize time. We also talk about personality and learning traits, and how we get things done.

00:00 Intro

01:23 Data science update

02:37 Kaggle indoor positioning competition

11:51 How Chris dives into learning a new topic

14:18 Balancing short term vs long term

17:02 ADHD styles of getting things done

22:53 Studying personality

27:06 Christian defeats email mountain

32:47 It's never as good as it seems, it's never as bad as it seems

39:47 3D printers are SO FREAKING COOL

45:59 How to choose what to work on

49:43 Selling a SaaS?

55:49 Recapturing attention by streamlining processes

57:07 Hot Take: online grocery ordering

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Chris talks about learning more AI and ML, and how learning that is helping as he teaches others. Christian is about to get a new 3D printer, and talks about how it's so cool that we can just download and print real things - we're living in the future.

00:00 Intro

02:15 Doing things under your own name vs a new domain name

07:18 Learning new things makes you a better educator

09:27 Consuming the content you create is important in business

14:33 Penny wise and pound foolish

19:11 Paying money for human experts to cover your blindspots

21:39 Updates on Chris's projects

24:14 Solutions for reducing the support load of a SaaS

29:27 3D printer + CNC + laser cutter

39:50 Openscad as a programmable 3D modeling software

42:16 Living in the future

46:07 NFTs

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Links mentioned:

🖨 https://snapmaker.com/

💻 https://www.openscad.org/

📖 https://www.amazon.com/Seveneves-Novel-Neal-Stephenson/dp/1469246864

💎 Diamond Age: https://www.amazon.com/Diamond-Age-Illustrated-Primer-Spectra/dp/0553380966

📱 Kindle Fire Kids Edition: https://www.amazon.com/Fire-HD-10-Kids-Edition/dp/B07KD7K4B1

🎨 https://www.vangoghgallery.com/painting/

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"Christian just do your emails"

00:00 Plumbing problems

01:31 When do you outsource vs. do it yourself?

13:18 Chris's AI research

17:38 Overview of Machine Learning

22:24 PyTorch vs. TensorFlow

26:02 Python, Javascript, and Ruby

29:41 Slogging through email

33:34 Email systems

40:43 Bookmark bankruptcy

41:44 Zettelkasten Google Search browser plugin HOT TAKE

44:34 Just do your emails Christian

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9️⃣MNIST number dataset AI practice: https://twitter.com/chrisachard/status/1369313924970143749

🌊TensorFlow: https://www.tensorflow.org/

🔥PyTorch: https://pytorch.org/

🏃🏻fast.ai: https://www.fast.ai/

🌭Not a Hotdog app from Silicon Valley: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vIci3C4JkL0

☕TensorFlow.js: https://www.tensorflow.org/js

🎒Learn X in Y minutes: https://learnxinyminutes.com/

🐍Effective Python: https://amzn.to/30t9fOS

🐓Data Science from Scratch: https://amzn.to/3t476pd

🤘🏻Learn Python the Hard Way by Zed Shaw: https://amzn.to/3t6u8f5

🚶🏻StumbleUpon: https://www.stumbleupon.com/

⛰Email Mountain: https://twitter.com/cgenco/status/1369407654809001986

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Apparently makers.dev is now the #1 Entrepreneurship podcast in Albania

00:00 Intro

01:45 2^4 episodes and the #1 Albanian Entrepreneurship Podcast

04:00 Chris's GAN AI research

09:32 How hard is it to make a GAN?

14:56 Feeling like you should be working on something else

21:31 EMAIL

24:56 Building a book reader in public

28:47 Orders of magnitude of views vs. engagement

31:12 Letting projects incubate

36:28 Boutique paper scanning business idea #HOTTAKES

41:40 Google lockout insurance #HOTTAKES

45:57 Chrome Extensions, npm, and other dangerous ecosystems #HOTTAKES

56:59 Christian spends several minutes reinventing Squarespace

01:08:04 gen.co domain name

Timestamps created with https://clips.marketing by @cgenco

🇦🇱 #1 Entrepreneurship podcast in Albania: https://twitter.com/cgenco/status/1366427624659185664

🎓Generative Adversarial Networks (GANs) Specialization: https://www.coursera.org/specializations/generative-adversarial-networks-gans

🆒Tesseract OCR: https://github.com/tesseract-ocr/tesseract

👻This Person Does Not Exist: https://www.thispersondoesnotexist.com/

🏫 fast.ai: https://www.fast.ai/

📖Christian making an ebook reader in public: https://twitter.com/cgenco/status/1365354786422460419

🐦Use AI summarizations to help summarize a book: https://twitter.com/cgenco/status/1365681397365628934

🗻Iron Mountain enterprise scanning: https://www.ironmountain.com/

🖌Tom Sawyer painting a fence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAHXwLRI88Q

🤨"I no longer trust The Great Suspender": https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=25846504

❌"The Great Suspender extension has been removed from Chrome Web Store for containing malware": https://9to5google.com/2021/02/04/the-great-suspender-extension-has-been-removed-from-chrome-web-store-for-containing-malware/

🏚"How one developer just broke Node, Babel and thousands of projects in 11 lines of JavaScript

": https://www.theregister.com/2016/03/23/npm_left_pad_chaos/

🍔"McDonald’s Didn’t Know What the Internet Was in the 90’s

": http://www.factfiend.com/mcdonalds-didnt-know-internet-90s/

🚗Nissan.com: https://nissan.com/

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Eight new ideas hot and fresh from a week of impromptu urban camping in Dallas, Texas.

00:00 SNOVID

02:39 Iceballs

03:43 Acorn Chat

04:44 Standard landing page vs. Long Form Copy

09:52 AB testing

14:55 SNOVID idea #HOTTAKES

16:30 Amazon mobile app for all Shopify stores idea

19:07 donotcall.dev API idea

22:13 ffmpeg as a service idea

27:47 transcriptions with a good API idea

32:43 Every YouTube channel is a podcast idea

35:18 Custom email frontend idea

40:18 Positive feedback hotline idea

44:50 Audiobook/ebook note taking app idea

50:11 Generative Adversarial Networks

Timestamps created with https://clips.marketing by @cgenco

⏲Noko time tracker: https://nokotime.com/

📈Fileinbox long form copy AB test: https://imgur.com/KDfDYmi

🛍Main Street Fights Back: https://justinjackson.ca/main-street-fights-back

🚚air.com searching network of independent stores: https://twitter.com/mijustin/status/1363648414882271233

🥊Fight Amazon: https://justinjackson.ca/fight-amazon

🏦Mastering Modern Payments: https://www.masteringmodernpayments.com/

🤖GPT-3 beta: https://openai.com/blog/openai-api/

🏋️‍♀️Jane Fonda: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cM3SslJP31Y

🎧Pocket Casts podcast app: https://www.pocketcasts.com/

🎓Generative Adversarial Networks (GANs) Specialization: https://www.coursera.org/specializations/generative-adversarial-networks-gans

💀"I tried to warn them": https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPgL8O5mwLg

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Perfect is the enemy of good, show your work, and get more of yourself out there.

00:00 Keeping the monkey healthy

03:00 Crunched audio?

05:02 Building Acorn Chat in a week

13:15 Why have separate app. and www. subdomains?

18:44 Embedded customizable .ejs templates per customer

21:13 Perfect is the enemy of good

24:00 The next 48 hours for Acorn Chat

27:08 Clips.marketing goals were CRUSHED

31:29 Show your work

42:56 Acorn Chat on Fileinbox?

46:20 Next week

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💬 Building a SaaS in a week: https://twitter.com/chrisachard/status/1357029859046875137

🐦 "Something easy to fix now and hard to fix later is to separate out your marketing site from your backend app": https://twitter.com/chrisachard/status/1358147298979627008

⛪ Perfect is the enemy of good: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Perfect_is_the_enemy_of_good

✂️ Clips.marketing: https://clips.marketing/

🎞 API for video clipping and encoding: https://cloud.qencode.com/

🤩 A moderately popular tweet about clips.marketing that only took 25 minutes to make: https://twitter.com/cgenco/status/1357476125228871681

🐉 fluent-ffmpeg: https://github.com/fluent-ffmpeg/node-fluent-ffmpeg

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Virtual Reality, project prioritization, and smart but upset tummies

00:00 Intro

00:56 Syndicating makers.dev clips

03:35 Clips.marketing as a consultancy vs. SaaS

13:58 Avoidant attachment style

16:00 Virtual Reality and the Oculus Quest 2

19:21 Unity VR development

21:23 Chris's 17 projects from 2020

26:02 How do you prioritize what to work on next?

31:22 Optimizing for fun work is important

34:23 Runway anxiety and optimization

39:31 Kids are productively challenging

42:14 Is your stomach or your brain in charge?

43:00 Gotta make the monkey happy

44:43 Camhead.app as a profitable Tamagotchi

48:38 Clips.marketing architecture

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🐦 Clip retweeted by @arvidkahl: https://twitter.com/cgenco/status/1355180904235188229

💡 Making the Most of Social Media with Whitney Hansen on the Run With It podcast: https://share.transistor.fm/s/75366d71

🍯 Parable of the Pottery Class: https://aliabdaal.com/pottery/

📚 The Artist's Way: https://amzn.to/39LFYEy

🧠 "The second brain contains some 100 million neurons, more than in either the spinal cord or the peripheral nervous system": https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/gut-second-brain/

💔 Heartbleed SSL vulnerability: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heartbleed

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00:00 Christian and Chris are converging
 00:40 Maker.dev interactions on twitter
 01:47 Audio quality is bad and it's not the microphone's fault
 04:56 Chris's talking head videos
 08:46 Why is Facebook's moneymaker backend so bad?
 15:01 What's the plan for clips.marketing?
 20:52 Build your audience first (unless you can build really quickly and cheaply)
 26:16 Manually onboard to make sure you talk to customers
 28:24 Talk to dirty messy humans about their FeElInGs 
30:48 Clips.marketing as a productized service? 
37:22 Christian's next week 
39:36 Chris's next week 

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 🎙 Our new matching microphones: https://twitter.com/cgenco/status/1352332392367841280 
 💛 Positive twitter feedback for makers.dev: https://twitter.com/petersuhm/status/1353368545715863553 
 🐦 Some of Chris's talking head videos: https://twitter.com/chrisachard/status/1352376272878493699 
 💡 Making the Most of Social Media with Whitney Hansen on the Run With It 
 podcast: https://share.transistor.fm/s/75366d71 
 🦓 How To Use Jobs To Be Done To Perfect Your Positioning by Claire Suellentrop: https://microconf.gen.co/claire-suellentrop/

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Apparently "worse is better" is how you get Christian to buy things.

00:00 Intro

00:23 Seeing the zoo through a child's eyes

02:56 Kids are like startups

05:27 Stripe Checkout

13:53 Microphone upgrades

17:52 Camera upgrades

21:54 Aspirational purchases

22:31 How would you live differently with more money?

28:25 A programmable phone in search of a problem and audience

34:40 Next week's plans

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💳 Stripe Checkout: https://stripe.com/payments/checkout

🎙 Shure SM7B with cloud lifter: https://amzn.to/3p4y9z1

📷 Sony a7 III: https://amzn.to/3p1VcKX

📷 Ricoh GR III: https://amzn.to/2XVuCan

☁️ Salesforce Platform: https://www.salesforce.com/products/platform/features/app-builder/

⚛ Close API Documentation: https://developer.close.com/

🅾️ Zoho Extensions: https://www.zoho.com/developer/extensions.html

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It's usually better to just get something done and out there rather than obsess over every little detail. Christian also figures out a better way to handle customer support emails.

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00:00 10 episodes!

00:34 Listener shoutouts

02:59 Pumping your voice into someone else's ears

05:38 Converting internet numbers to real numbers

06:40 "Slack is down, use async!"

08:04 Meeting Place, Async.dev, and WebRTC update

09:59 How does WebRTC work?

14:59 Twilio's TURN at $0.40/GB vs. $0.01/GB

16:09 Business WebRTC bandwidth costs

18:49 STUN servers

20:09 Anyone could build AT&T from their bedroom!

20:43 Integrating audio chatting in Async.dev/Meeting Place

22:47 Chris's pandemic advantage over Meetup.com

27:32 Future plans for Async.dev and Meeting Place

35:09 Who is Meeting Place for and what problems is it solving?

42:06 Do whatcha want! You don't need a grand vision

45:29 CamHead.app

50:00 Cocoa Development

52:33 What's next for CamHead?

55:49 Influencer marketing

57:49 Turns out infoprducts are real businesses

01:00:23 THIS EPISODE IS TOO LONG

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🐦 Learn React in 10 Tweets: https://twitter.com/chrisachard/status/1175022111758442497

🐦 No Code Doesn't Exist: https://twitter.com/cgenco/status/1346139894398251027

🐦 Slack is Down - use async: https://twitter.com/chrisachard/status/1346118116774989827

🔗 I'm Walking Away From the Product I Spent a Year Building—The story behind Level and why it failed by Derek Reimer: https://www.derrickreimer.com/essays/2019/05/17/im-walking-away-from-the-product-i-spent-a-year-building.html

🔗 Nailing Your First (Info-Product) Launch by Adam Wathan: https://microconf.gen.co/adam-wathan/

Also Christian's video is no longer 0.25 seconds off he fixed it :)

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Alternate title: doing everything right and seeing what happens

00:00 Intro

00:34 CHRISTIAN'S CHRISTMAS IGLOO

04:02 Chris's soundproofed office

05:14 Chris's co-founder breakup

08:53 Why not swing for the fences instead of bootstrapping?

09:55 Optimizing for flexibility

11:06 How do kids change business priorities?

12:46 Consulting vs. full-time for Riverside

15:44 Chris's upcoming consulting info-product

17:59 Manifesting consulting with The Secret 

19:56 Chris's Christmas thinkin' about the future of async.dev and meeting place

23:43 Slack hate is a great opportunity

28:46 Niching down Meeting Place to developers

29:53 Next steps for Chris

33:21 CamHead.app

43:15 Fileinbox customer support email resistance

46:02 Streamline customer support and standup meetings with video tutorials

50:14 Clips.Marketing for writing YouTube chapter markers

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"Without Their Permission" by Alexis Ohanian: https://withouttheirpermission.com/

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00:00 Hello!

00:31 How do you take vacations as a bootstrapper?

03:58 Brain dumping

04:51 How is work is more fun than skiing or ziplining?

07:44 Morning Pages from The Artist's Way

08:08 How do you balance vacations and family with work?

10:13 Needing meaningful work

10:50 YouTube to Transistor script for makers.dev

13:57 Dogfooding async.dev for makers.dev

15:53 Websocks in Rails

18:33 Doing art for art's sake vs. making art for a market

24:19 What do you want to win by doing?

27:52 Christian's non-goals for next week

30:18 The privilege to work on what you want

34:41 Track your money and time instead of trusting your intuition

36:50 What if you don't have the bandwidth to do work you love?

39:15 Chris's plan for next week

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0:00 Drywall is like business

1:24 Just doing the work is more important than tips and hacks

6:00 Christian's robot video editor

11:34 The dream podcasting workflow

17:40 Automatic YouTube to Transistor.fm flow

19:20 Makers.dev vs. BusinessMan.Business work

22:58 MeetingPlace update

24:13 Dogfooding Async.dev instead of Slack

27:20 How do you decide what to work on next?

36:45 Setting immutable biweekly or monthly goals

38:50 Enjoying the work vs. growing the business

41:48 Fileinbox Sign Printer Interviews

46:12 Customer chats are more enjoyable, less stilted than scripted interviews with an agenda and they're just as useful

50:50 Christian's hypo-hypo-manic week of projects

54:13 $10 vs. $50 vs. $200 tasks

57:39 Drywall craftsmen

Shape Up: https://basecamp.com/shapeup

Full-time Employees for $9k/year: https://www.supportshepherd.com/

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0:00 Special Acoustic Caulk and manual laber
3:22 The Jigsaw Puzzle Theory of Business
6:10 Async.dev Slackbot update
9:00 Can you charge for an unfinished project?
10:44 Niching a Time Tracker Coaching Service
22:28 What's next for Async.dev and Meeting Place?
24:54 Talking to Sign Printers update
30:25 Clipping Microconf Recap
35:17 Effective Time Design
38:07 Automated video editing
45:44 Delegating to machines vs. humans
48:51 AI is coming to take all our jobs unless you're a coach
49:38 When does it make sense to hire humans?

🔗 How to Conduct a Great User Interview: https://microconf.gen.co/chris-achard/

🔗 How To Use Jobs To Be Done To Perfect Your Positioning: https://microconf.gen.co/claire-suellentrop/

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0:00 Intro
3:51 Spending money to make more money
5:47 Imposter syndrome in charging more
8:05 Micropreneurs vs. YouTubers
13:00 Marketing without feeling slimy
14:45 Doing everything wrong and seeing where it goes
17:00 Chris's MeetingPlace and Async.dev update
21:50 Tick Tock Development
24:56 Chris's Goals for next week
27:03 Christian's Fileinbox update and goals
33:16 How do you know which features to build?
34:37 Customer workflows show you adjacent problems
36:00 Tick tock audience research
37:00 Pivoting
39:12 Makers.dev is super useful for us
40:03 Repurposing interview content?
42:49 Skyscraper posts

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Alternate title: Christian's smelly mouth holes

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While talking about weekly goals, Chris and Christian talk about the feeling of procrastination and how to overcome it.

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Talking to customers is important! Chris talks to potential business customers for meetingplace.io, and Christian gets ready to convert fileinbox to serverless before he turns on more marketing.

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Chris and Christian introduce themselves and figure out what this podcast is going to be about.