The Outliers Podcast: Recent Episodes

Aria Chang

The #1 question students are asked is what they want to be when they’re older. But the truth is: most kids just don’t know. By interviewing professionals from all sorts of jobs, we hope to expose students to as many different career options as we can. Sharing lessons about each professional’s wins, losses, risks, and challenges, our goal is to guide students towards choosing the best career for them.

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I'm Alive! Sorry I've been gone for the last couple of months. I made this quick update to give you all an idea of what's going on.

Personally, I've been burnt out - content creation can be exhausting. However, I still really enjoy it and I feel refreshed now that the school year has started. 

I'll see you guys in the next episode!

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PART 3 | Zach | Entrepreneur

Timestamps:

  • 1:01 - Are marketing courses (Hubspot Academy) worth it?
  • 2:03 - Advice for kids with ideas, but no funding to pursue it
  • 5:30 - Essential business skills aspiring entrepreneurs should start learning
  • 6:30 - Perspective: having unsupportive parents
  • 6:58 - Zach's ultimate advice for future entrepreneurs
  • 7:46 - The truth about drop shipping/forex trading gurus
  • 9:10 - The key to launching profitable businesses
  • 10:21 - Where and how to learn from industry professionals (most courses aren't super helpful)
  • 12:05 - How to come up with ideas for businesses'

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PART 2 | Zach | Entrepreneurship

TIMESTAMPS

  • 1:20 Pros of entrepreneurship (based on Zach's experience)
  • 3:22 Cons of entrepreneurship (based on Zach's experience)
  • 5:24 How he handles risk & having a business mindset
  • 8:54 Stress he deals with
  • 11:09 Meeting friends online and leveraging Instagram to Network

More about Zach can be found on our website mageeoutliers.com

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PART 1 | Zachary Dempsey | Entrepreneur

Meet Zach, a 23-year-old entrepreneur from Vancouver, Canada. Zach is known for his 2 startups: Slogan Social - a social media marketing business - and Arise Applications - an IOS app development company. Even though Zach had no marketing or app development experience, he launched 2 very successful businesses that currently earn him enough revenue to travel the world.

TIMESTAMPS:

  • 1:11 How Slogan Social Works
  • 4:30 Why Zach's traveling is cheaper than living in Vancouver
  • 6:40 How he travels cheaply
  • 8:36 How he started Slogan Social with no marketing experience
  • 11:05 How he started Arise Applications with minimal coding experience
  • 14:32 How he almost didn't graduate high school
  • 16:22 Problems at work and with hiring friends

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More info about Zach can be found on our website mageeoutliers.com

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PART 3 of 3 of Sean's episode

Timestamps:

  • 1:04 - Pros & Cons
  • 2:49 - Warnings / Misconceptions
  • 4:46 - A question all future investment bankers must hear
  • 6:20 - Why Sean chose investment banking
  • 8:06 - Conclusion / Sean's most valuable takeaway
  • 8:35 - Sprint vs Marathon
  • 9:45 - Sean's advice he'd give to his younger self
  • 11:08 - How stressful is investment banking?
  • 12:26 - Bad investment banking career stories

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Thanks for listening!

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PART 2 of 3 of SEAN'S EPISODE

Some things we cover in today's episode:

  • Why Sean enjoyed Western's business school over the University of Toronto's
  • How Rotman focuses on academics while Ivey focuses on interpersonal skills
  • Investment Banking's 'brutal', competitive recruiting process + how to prepare
  • How to stand out in a sea of applicants
  • Is the finance culture as toxic as people say it is?

TIMESTAMPS

  • 1:10 Why Sean transferred from UofT to Western
  • 2:18 Comparing Western (Ivey) and UofT (Rotman)
  • 4:50 School expectations at UofT
  • 6:30 Finance culture in university and in the workplace (Canada vs USA)
  • 8:40 Really long work hours
  • 9:20 Recruitment + how to stand out
  • 13:05 Grades in a high pressure environment
  • 14:45 Is the business culture toxic?

More about Sean at mageeoutliers.com

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PART 1 of 3 | Sean's Episode

About Sean

  • Investment banking junior analyst at Lazard (global investment bank)
  • Went into business at UofT Rotman and transferred over to Western Ivey
  • He's a smart guy

Things we cover in this episode

  • What is investment banking and how investment banks make so much money
  • What does Sean's job ACTUALLY look like?
  • How does your job change as you're promoted?
  • Is investment banking boring/monotonous?
  • Sales abilities tangent

Timestamps: 

  • 0:00 Meet Sean
  • 1:28 Why Sean entered business
  • 2:28 What is investment banking
  • 6:24 What investment banking looks like when you start off
  • 7:39 Isn't your job monotonous/boring?
  • 9:14 How your job changes as you get promoted
  • 10:50 Tangent on sales skills

For more about Sean: mageeoutliers.com

Updates + upcoming interviewees: @outlierscareerpodcast

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PART 3 OUT OF 3 OF SIRADA'S EPISODE

In this episode we cover:

  • GPA requirements for most internships + co-ops
  • Requirements for TRON (Western University engineering program)
  • Why/how second year gets SIGNIFICANTLY harder than first year in engineering
  • What are the different branches of engineering like?
  • What is mechatronic systems engineering?
  • How to financially support yourself in university
  • Advice Sirada would give to her younger self

We hope you enjoyed Sirada's episode! Next up: Investment banker, Sean Gu!

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PART 2 OUT OF 3 OF SIRADA'S EPISODE

In this episode we cover:

  • Imposter Syndrome and combating self-doubt
  • Handling an intimidating and competitive environment
  • Keeping up with a super demanding workload
  • Studying efficiently (specifically, in engineering) using the 80/20 rule

More information about Sirada can be found on our website mageeoutliers.com

Or our instagram @outlierscareerpodcast

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PART 1 OUT OF 3 OF SIRADA'S EPISODE 

This episode we talk about: 

  • What it's like being a woman in engineering
  • What to expect in your first year
  • How to handle culture shock and racism
  • Feeling intimidated and countering these feelings by connecting with mentors
  • Strict Asian parenting
  • Party culture at Western University

This episode we interview Sirada, a 2015 Magee alumnus! Although Sirada is now a technology consultant working at one of the largest tech consulting firms in the world, she graduated from Western University with a Bachelors in Engineering Science in 2020. Her experience working at 3 different engineering, tech, and business related co-ops/internships provide us with invaluable information for our university careers (looking at you, STEM students!). More about Sirada can be found on our website: mageeoutliers.com  All updates about future interviewees are on our Instagram: @outlierscareerpodcast 

DM us to let us know who you think we should interview next and we'll try to find them! 

Thank you Sirada - for dedicating valued time towards this project, for being so open to sharing your lessons with us, and for guiding me and others as a mentor.

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How does technology consulting provide an environment for exponential learning? How hard is the recruitment process? Do tech consultants really work on projects for Apple and Google? 

In this episode, we interview Tyler Nee, a tech consultant at Apply Digital. Ty graduated from the University of British Columbia in 2020 with a combined major in business and computer science. Passionate about what's called, "hyper-learning", he shares the advice on he's learned from his challenges. Listen now to discover the realities of his career and his journey from high school to his current job. 

Check out Ty's Instagram @finfriendtai to learn more about financial literacy

More about us can be found @mageeoutliers on Instagram or our website mageeoutliers.com

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Am I cut out to become a movie/TV producer? Is it worth going to film school? How can I befriend princes from foreign lands!? 

This episode, movie producer Gilbert Adler talks about the reality behind the movie industry and shares his advice on how to get started with no experience. Having been a producer, director, and writer for over 30 years, Mr. Adler brings several perspectives to the table and provides a behind-the-scene outlook of these three significant roles behind film production. 

Whether you're interested in pursuing film or not, the teachings provided by Mr. Adler apply to both the movie industry and life in general. More about Mr. Adler can be found on our Instagram, @mageeoutliers or our website mageeoutliers.com 

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Why does Malcolm consider himself to be a "glorified clothing seller"? What's the most stressful part about doing a world tour at age 15? And how does one enter the music industry with minimal experience?

This episode, musician Malcolm Craig from rock bands Calpurnia and The Aubreys talks about the music industry's culture, the biggest challenges that come with being a musician, how Tyler the Creator bombed his interview with Beats 1, and lots more!

Malcolm shares his most useful advice that's helped him so far in his career. If you're interested in pursuing music, this is the perfect episode for you. And if not, Malcolm's advice still applies to everyday life.

More information about Malcolm and us can be found on our Instagram @mageeoutliers or our website, mageeoutliers.com.

Time stamps:

1:04 - Misconceptions

1:50 - A typical rehearsal day

3:48 - The reality of touring

4:56 - The best part about being a musician

6:10 - What music has taught Malcolm

6:55 - Festivals and fun experiences

9:25 - Challenges

12:48 - How it affects his social life

13:55 - Risks

15:27 - When his passion dwindles

20:33 - Skills needed to become a musician

21:16 - More skills to practice

22:39 - Success

23:38 - Forming a band

23:58 - How much he practices

24:32 - Getting out of a rut

25:09 - Advice he'd give to his younger self

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Where should I start if I want to pursue acting as a career? What should I expect when I go into auditions? How do most actors financially support themselves?This episode, actor Graham Verchere shares his views of the acting industry, the realities of...