Abolish Abortion Missouri: Recent Episodes
Abolish Abortion MO
The Official Podcast for AAMO - dedicated to the complete and total abolition of abortion in Missouri today. Learn More at https://abolishabortionmo.org/
We're joined by Wes Scroggins and Violet Stephens - Violet helps to educate us on a recent story about a hospital in Missouri that supposedly refused needed medical care (during an emergency) to a pregnant woman. Specifically, the hospital is being investigated because they refused to abort the baby.
Our Website: https://abolishabortionmo.org/
Show Notes:
An Article on Expectant Management
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/15254557/
Article on "Neonatal survival after prolonged preterm premature rupture of membranes before 24 weeks"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/25437729/
A Very Biased Article on "Maternal morbidity after preterm premature rupture of membranes at <24 weeks"
https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34736914/
- Here's a note from Violet on this particular article: "I want to emphasize that the conclusion was that 15% of women walked away with a live baby and no morbidity. But if you look at what was included in morbidity, they were including things like repair of lacerations and readmission to a hospital within 6 weeks. That's downright misleading, as a lot of women delivering babies have lacerations requiring a repair.
The other glaring omission was that when compared to women who chose termination - 0% walked away with no morbidity and a live baby. I guess they just thought it went without saying.
We're joined by Wes Scroggins to review the November 8th Election and to ask "what does this mean for Abolition's prospects this legislative session?"
AAMO Website: https://abolishabortionmo.org/
Show Notes:
5:50 - Current Leadership in the House and Senate and their role in passing a bill of abolition
11:30 - Some "next steps" regarding how you can take action to help reach out to our law-makers
14:50 - Current progress in getting an abolition bill introduced in the House
16:55 - Names of those you can begin calling and asking them to support a bill of abolition when it shows up
32:40 - Why we're hopeful that this could be a great moment for Abolition in Missouri
36:30 - What're the stakes in this session?
37:50 - A specific way you can support AAMO - donate
Current Senate and House Leadership:
In the House 163 seats - Republicans have 111 (68% majority)
In the Senate 34 seats - Republicans have 24 (70% majority)
House Speaker - Dean Plocher (district 89 - St Louis area)
House Majority Floor Leader - John Patterson (district 30 - Lee's Summit area)
Senate Pro Tem - Caleb Rowden (district 19 - Columbia area)
Senate Majority Leader - Cindy O'Laughlin (district 18 - Northeast MO)
House Reps to call and encourage/ask to support Abolition
Brad Hudson (district 138)
- 573-751-3851
- Brad.Hudson@house.mo.gov
Mitch Boggs (district 157)
- 573-751-4077
- Mitch.Boggs@house.mo.gov
Jeff Farnan (district 1)
- 38469 340TH ST STANBERRY MO 64489
- forwardwithfarnan@gmail.com
Michael Davis (district 56)
- 573-751-2175
- Michael.Davis@house.mo.gov
Brad Pollitt (district 52)
- 573-751-9774
- Bradley.Pollitt@house.mo.gov
Bob Titus (district 139)
- titusformissouri@gmail.com
Ann Kelley (district 127)
- 573-751-2165
- Ann.Kelley@house.mo.gov
Senate Reps to call and encourage/ask to support Abolition:
Mike Moon (district 29)
- (573) 751-1480
- Mike.Moon@senate.mo.gov
Curtis Trent (district 20)
- 417-683-8587
- ctrent1@gmail.com
Jill Carter (district 32)
- 417.850.0222
- hello@jillforsenate.com
Mary Elizabeth Coleman (district 22)
- 314.375.6715
- MEC@MaryElizabethColeman.com
District Map for House:
https://www.sos.mo.gov/CMSImages/Elections//Maps//StatewideHouseMap(FilingOnly).pdf
District Map for Senate:
https://www.sos.mo.gov/CMSImages/Elections//Maps//2022JRCStatewideSenateDistrictMap.pdf
Although not covering every candidate in the running in Missouri, Brandon and Wes walk through some candidates that AAMO encourages our listeners to support and vote for.
Episode Guide:
AAMO's Guide to Candidates who support abolition in the House:
Brian Seitz - District 156
Michael Davis - District 56
Kirk Hilzinger - District 80
Jeff Farnam - District 81
David Martin - District 29
Brad Politt - District 52
Kevin Craig - District 7
AAMO's Guide to Candidates who support abolition in the Senate:
Mike Moon - District 29
Mary Elizabeth Coleman - District 22
District Map for House:
https://www.sos.mo.gov/CMSImages/Elections//Maps//StatewideHouseMap(FilingOnly).pdf
District Map for Senate:
https://www.sos.mo.gov/CMSImages/Elections//Maps//2022JRCStatewideSenateDistrictMap.pdf
We're joined by Joshua Jenkins and Kevan Myers to discuss the subject of "single-issue voting" and why it's a must for abolitionists. Though we have some important clarifications to make along the way as well.
Most importantly, we see to answer questions regarding how saying this affects liberty of conscience, weighing the pros and cons of candidates, and political offices that don't have much to do with the issue of abortion.
Joshua and Kevan hit this one out of the park with their wisdom and nuance, while still presenting the truth in clear ways.
Our Website:
abolishabortionmo.org
We're back after a month long break, and joined by Wes to discuss the needs we have as we head into the election and prepare for the next session.
We'll have the voter guide that we speak of up and available on our website very soon!
Our Website - www.abolishabortionmo.org
Ways to Contact Us
- www.abolishabortionmo.org/contact-us
- email us at admin@abolishabortionmo.com
Violet Stephens joins us to help us unravel all the fuzzy information about the Pill, and all those associated with it.
Link to our website:
https://abolishabortionmo.org/
Links to learn more about various types of pills that are contraceptive or abortifacient:
https://www.guttmacher.org/gpr/2005/05/implications-defining-when-woman-pregnant
https://www.hli.org/resources/abortifacient-brief-birth-control-pill/
https://modernfertility.com/blog/birth-control-ovulate/
We're joined again by Kevan Myers to answer the question "why do we go to planned parenthood and plead for baby's lives?" In addition to answering that, Kevan lays out some amazingly helpful advice and strategies for "how" to go as well.
This is a powerful episode - Kevan highlights the great need, and great opportunity, held out for those who will go and stand outside the gates of death.
One particularly poignant point is that Christians greatly help the witness of Christ's Church when we go, because it shows that we are concerned. Kevan's point at 23:40 about abortion not being a big issue for Christians because we don't stand outside abortion mills is such an important one.
Link to our website:
https://abolishabortionmo.org/
Episode Guide:
1:50 - What does it look like to go to Planned Parenthood?
3:45 - Does it make a difference to go?
5:00 - Why should we go?
13:25 - How do you start?
18:45 - What should you take?
22:15 - What should you do there? (Be present, preach, plead, pray, provide, provoke, praise)
30:15 - Christians understand how to be both sorrowful and joyful in this task, and are uniquely suited for it
32:03 - What if there's no abortion mill near you, or else not one that's performing abortion?
35:23 - What specifically do we say when we go? Both to those who work at murder mills, and those going into them?
44:40 - What if Christians supported abolition as much as they did Chik-Fil-A?
45:45 Christian, in This Bloody Day
Christian, In This Bloody Day
"We live in a day of slaughter,
When folks do slay both son and daughter.
When parents want to give "no room",
And target those inside the womb.
Christian, in this bloody day,
Will you now your Lord obey?
Who will go to stand for Christ?
To the gates of child sacrifice?
Will you go the Truth to speak?
Seek to stand up for the weak?
Bring the Gospel, the lost to reach?
Take your stand inside the breach?
Will cold weather make you balk?
Or a ways you have to walk?
No matter what they say in town?
Even if folks at church do frown?
Will you go if others don't?
Whether sinners give heed--or if they won't?
Will you love in word AND deed
Open mouth, for the poor to plead?
So love mercy, do what is just;
Now walk humbly, in God trust.
As for fruit, remember what is:
Duty is ours. Results are HIS."
We're joined again by Violet Stephens as we examine a Vice article about a 17 year old who attempted to murder her 28 week old baby, and then burn the evidence.
The story is grotesque, but it highlights what happens when we pursue incremental legislation.
Vice has a very different take than AAMO, but that's all the more reason why this article needs a response.
Link to the Vice Article:
https://www.vice.com/en/article/n7zevd/this-is-the-data-facebook-gave-police-to-prosecute-a-teenager-for-abortion?utm_source=motherboard_twitter
AAMO Website:
https://abolishabortionmo.org/
Brandon takes this episode to consider how the gospel relates to those who've been involved in abortion.
We're back again with Joshua Jenkins and Kevan Myers finishing out our two-part series on objections to an abolitionist approach to ending abortion.
Episode Guide:
5:01 - Why do we believe women (and all those involved in abortion) should be prosecuted? Aren't women victims?
8:32 - Abolition is loving to all people
16:00 - Would an abolition bill punish people who'd be involved in abortion prior to the law's implementation? Also - how would prosecuting these crimes work?
24:35 - If we passed an abolition law, it'd just get held up in court, so why should we still work to pass a law like that?
29:35 - What should a state do if that happens? What is the doctrine of lesser magistrates and interposition?
37:19 - Why are incremental laws wrong, and also, why don't they work?
45:30 - Note about the New York Times interviewing someone who performed a home abortion.
46:25 - What would a successful abolition law's implementation look like?
Links:
Our Website, where you can sign up for our newsletter - https://abolishabortionmo.org/
Video of the New York Time's expose` of a woman who performed a home abortion on herself - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tjIgYs81mB8
Free the States - https://freethestates.org/
Rescue Those - https://www.rescuethose.com/
We sit down with Wes Scroggins again just to do a "one month debrief" regarding the state of abortion in the State of Missouri. We face threats to abolishing abortion both at the state and federal levels.
Links to the Federal Bills seeking to codify abortion into law in some form:
HR 8296, preventing state governments ability to outlaw abortion - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8296
HR 8297, preventing state governments from "interfering with a person's ability to access out-of-state abortion services" - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8297
HR 8424, providing increased funding for "family planning services" (including access to abortion) - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8424/text?r=5&s=1
HR8428, ensuring greater access to various contraceptive drugs (including abortifacient ones) for women - https://www.congress.gov/bill/117th-congress/house-bill/8428/text?q=%7B%22search%22%3A%5B%22hinson%22%2C%22hinson%22%5D%7D&r=1&s=2
We're joined by Joshua Jenkins and Kevan Myers to begin walking through the most common objections to abolition.
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Episode Guide:
8:02 - "What about bodily autonomy? Why do are we concerned with making laws that tell a woman what she can or can't do with her body?"
18:30 - "What about abortion in cases where the mother has been harmed or hurt or raped? Isn't it uncaring toward women to 'force' them to have a baby in a tragic situation like this?"
30:30 - "What about abortions for instances where the life of the mother is in danger?"
44:45 - "The Gospel and Abortion"
More answers to common questions
Rescue Those - https://www.rescuethose.com/frequently-asked-questions/
Free The States - https://freethestates.org/abortion-bill-faq/
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We're joined by Kevan Myers to "go back to the foundation" and consider what it means to hold to an abolitionist position on abortion. What is abolitionism?
Specifically we're talking about the difference between the approach that the pro-life movement takes to ending abortion, and the approach that abolitionists take.
Episode Guide:
7:40 - What are the "broad brush" differences between the pro-life movement and the abolition movement?
14:30 - "The Five Tenets of Abolitionism"
17:15 - "Tenet 1 - Abolition is Biblical"
18:42 - "Tenet 2 - Abolition is Gospel-Centered"
24:41 - "Tenet 3 - Abolition is 'Body-Driven'"
28:10 - "Tenet 5 - Abolition is Providential"
30:41 - "Tenet 4 - Abolition is Immediate and Uncompromising"
41:02 - "Some Ways to Get Involved"
Links:
Our Website, where you can sign up for our newsletter - https://abolishabortionmo.org/
Free the States - https://freethestates.org/
Rescue Those - https://www.rescuethose.com/
We invite Violet Stephens onto the show in order to discuss whether or not it really is true that abortion is healthcare - we discuss ectopic pregnancies, miscarriages, the stagnation of medical science in this area, and also consider the trigger law again.
Episode Guide:
2:05 - "is abortion healthcare?"
8:20 - "what about ectopic pregnancies?"
19:35 - "what about miscarriages?"
24:30 - "digging deeper into the trigger law, medical emergencies, and abortifacients"
Links:
Our website, where you can subscribe to our newsletter and stay up-to-date - https://abolishabortionmo.org/
The trigger law - https://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=188.017
The definitions used for the trigger law - https://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=188.015&bid=47547&hl=
A Case of Transplanting an Ectopic Pregnancy from 1917 - https://epublications.marquette.edu/cgi/viewcontent.cgi?article=2010&context=lnq
A Letter to the Editor of the "Oxford Journal" considering a case of relocation of an ectopic pregnancy from 1990: https://academic.oup.com/humrep/article-abstract/9/8/1584/760986?redirectedFrom=PDF#no-access-message
An article on an abdominal pregnancy that resulted in a live birth at 36 weeks (along with 4 other cases) - https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/28347153/
Our website, where you can subscribe to our newsletter and stay up-to-date - https://abolishabortionmo.org/
Where the Trigger Law can be found:
https://revisor.mo.gov/main/OneSection.aspx?section=188.017
- this is from the website "Revised Statutes of Missouri" - found in chapter 188 and section 17
Some other news mentioned:
The law has no effect on abortifacient drugs:
https://www.kansascity.com/news/business/health-care/article262984153.html
Municipalities like KC and St Louis funding out-of-state travel to get "abortions as healthcare."
https://www.kcur.org/news/2022-06-30/kansas-city-council-approves-financial-help-for-city-employees-seeking-out-of-state-abortions