Turning Points in Leadership: Recent Episodes
Dr. Kristen Albert
Kris believes that every one of us is capable of leading, and also responsible for positive leadership within our spheres of influence. In fact, throughout her entire career Kris has been dedicated to growing exceptional leaders – from the classroom to the board room, and everywhere in between. The individuals whom Kris interviews are changing the image from a leader being someone at the top of the corporate ladder, or needing to hold a title of privilege to be able to make a difference. Instead, Kris's guests are leading change in bold and inspiring ways, and she wants YOU, her audience, to be inspired by these leaders, and to consider how YOU can become a catalyst for change in your spheres of influence.
About this episode:
After 14 episodes, Kris is pressing pause on creating new episodes of the Turning Points in Leadership Podcast as she pares down her responsibilities in preparation for "retirement." Everyone's vision of retirement is unique, and Kris's will be no exception. While her work will look a little different, you can be sure that she will not stop striving to make our world a better place though her messages of inspiration. Kris will continue to encourage and challeng people to step authentically and courageously into leadership, and in ways that are positive and highly effective.
In Kris's final episode, she shares two specific stories where someone else's authentic and courageous leadership made a difference in her life.
Kris wants to especially thank Carol Cox of Speaking Your Brand for encouraging Kris to create and host this Turning Points in Leadership podcast as a container for her thought leadership.
Stay subscribed to the Turning Points in Leadership podcast to remain up-to-date on Kris's future projects.
About your podcast host, Dr. Kristen Albert
Dr. Kristen Albert, is a successful coach, WOB business owner, public speaker, and writer. She holds an Ed.D. in Leadership from the University of Delaware, a certificate in Ontological coaching from the Newfield Network, Boulder,CO.
Throughout her entire career, Kris has been dedicated to growing exceptional leaders – from the classroom to the board room, and everywhere in between. Kris is the President and Lead coach of Turning Points LLC and the host of the online Turning Points Leaders Community and the Turning Points in Leadership podcast. Her experience as an educator, coach, and leader allows her to bring a uniquely wise and highly effective approach to every interaction.
Kris is a proven leader and is proud to be rated in the top 2% of all leaders (globally) according on the Leadership Circle(R) assessment.
Through her work as a master coach and expert in adult learning, Kris's coaching clients have realized gains in all areas of their personal and business worlds including personal and organizational leadership, accountability, focus, communication skills, self-development and leadership effectiveness. Women leaders who work with Kris grow to see themselves as strong and capable leaders; they learn to embrace and leverage their uniqueness, grow in confidence and their ability to show up courageously and authentically, and with the ability to celebrate who they are and who they were created and gifted to be.
Kris lives her life with intention and works for social and racial justice, diversity, equity, and inclusion for all. She resides in Lancaster PA with her husband Doug and her cat Watson.
If you're ready to see beyond obstacles, push boundaries, and get things done, contact Kris for a conversation for possibilities.
Turning Points LLC--
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Connect with Kristen Albert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkristenalbert/
About this episode:
In this episode I welcome my guest, Dr. Brian Norcross. When I think of Creative Leaders, I think of Brian. He is a master at creating positive environments and positive relationships; I hope he will share a story with you about the turning point in his life when he declared, at a relatively young age, that he would make creating positive environments at the very core of his life’s work.
Brian leads in a way that is uniquely him. His way of being is calm, steady, and positive, and everything he does is grounded in intention and excellence.
I am eager for you to get to know Brian, and to learn from the experiences that have contributed to his unique way of leading.
Meet Dr. Brian Norcross:
Brian is the Senior Director of Instrumental Music and Conducting Studies at Franklin & Marshall College where he has been twice voted the "Most Influential Professor in the Arts and Humanities."
Brian is also the Artistic Director and founding conductor of the Allegro Orchestra Lancaster, the Director of Music at the First United Methodist Church in Lancaster, and an active guest conductor and clinician in the mid-Atlantic states.
Brian received his doctorate, with distinction, from The Catholic University of America in Washington D. C.; his master's, with performance and academic honors from New England Conservatory in Boston, MA; and his bachelor's degree from the University of Massachusetts in Amherst, MA. He and his wife Kim are both educators and have four adult children: Molly, Megan, Greyson and Gloria.
Connect with Brian: brian.norcross@fandm.edu
About your podcast host, Dr. Kristen Albert
Dr. Kristen Albert, is a successful coach, WOB business owner, public speaker, and writer. She holds an Ed.D. in Leadership from the University of Delaware, a certificate in Ontological coaching from the Newfield Network, Boulder,CO.
Throughout her entire career, Kris has been dedicated to growing exceptional leaders – from the classroom to the board room, and everywhere in between. Kris is the President and Lead coach of Turning Points LLC and the host of the online Turning Points Leaders Community and the Turning Points in Leadership podcast. Her experience as an educator, coach, and leader allows her to bring a uniquely wise and highly effective approach to every interaction.
Kris is a proven leader and is proud to be rated in the top 2% of all leaders (globally) according on the Leadership Circle(R) assessment.
Through her work as a master coach and expert in adult learning, Kris's coaching clients have realized gains in all areas of their personal and business worlds including personal and organizational leadership, accountability, focus, communication skills, self-development and leadership effectiveness. Women leaders who work with Kris grow to see themselves as strong and capable leaders; they learn to embrace and leverage their uniqueness, grow in confidence and their ability to show up courageously and authentically, and with the ability to celebrate who they are and who they were created and gifted to be.
Kris lives her life with intention and works for social and racial justice, diversity, equity, and inclusion for all. She resides in Lancaster PA with her husband Doug and her cat Watson.
If you're ready to see beyond obstacles, push boundaries, and get things done, contact Kris for a conversation for possibilities.
Turning Points LLC--
Live. Work. Satisfied.
Connect with Kristen Albert:
Connect with Kristen Albert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkristenalbert/
About my guest, Steven Fackenthall
Steven Fackenthall is the general music teacher at Richey Elementary in the Red Clay Consolidated SD in Wilmington, DE, and the President of the Red Clay Education Association. He will be starting his 16th year of teaching in September.
Connect with Steve:
Twitter: muzicman52,
Facebook: Steve Fackenthall,
Email: sfackenthall@gmail.com
About me -- your host, Dr. Kristen Albert:
Dr. Kristen Albert, is a successful coach, WOB business owner, public speaker, and writer. She holds an Ed.D. in Leadership from the University of Delaware, a certificate in Ontological coaching from the Newfield Network, Boulder,CO.
Throughout her entire career, Kris has been dedicated to growing exceptional leaders – from the classroom to the board room, and everywhere in between. Kris is the President and Lead coach of Turning Points LLC and the host of the online Turning Points Leaders Community and the Turning Points in Leadership podcast. Her experience as an educator, coach, and leader allows her to bring a uniquely wise and highly effective approach to every interaction.
Kris is a proven leader and is proud to be rated in the top 2% of all leaders (globally) according on the Leadership Circle(R) assessment.
Through her work as a master coach and expert in adult learning, Kris's coaching clients have realized gains in all areas of their personal and business worlds including personal and organizational leadership, accountability, focus, communication skills, self-development and leadership effectiveness. Women leaders who work with Kris grow to see themselves as strong and capable leaders; they learn to embrace and leverage their uniqueness, grow in confidence and their ability to show up courageously and authentically, and with the ability to celebrate who they are and who they were created and gifted to be.
Kris lives her life with intention and works for social and racial justice, diversity, equity, and inclusion for all. She resides in Lancaster PA with her husband Doug and her cat Watson.
If you're ready to see beyond obstacles, push boundaries, and get things done, contact Kris for a conversation for possibilities.
Turning Points LLC--
Live. Work. Satisfied.
Join the Turning Points Leadership Community: https://turning-points-community.mn.co/
Connect with Dr. Kristen Albert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkristenalbert/
About my guest, Isaac Etter
Isaac Etter is a social entrepreneur, father, avid learner, and leader. Isaac has been the founder of multiple organizations and companies. He has been bringing his ideas to life since he was 15. Currently, Isaac is the CEO and founder of Identity a startup focused on using technology to help adoptive and foster parents thrive. He is also the founder and principle consultant at Etter Consulting a small business strategy agency. Isaac has focused his time towards two areas that bring him immense joy which are innovating the adoption and foster care field and helping people start companies.
Isaac's inspirational quote: “Extreme Ownership. Leaders must own everything in their world. There is no one else to blame.” ― Jocko Willink, Extreme Ownership: How U.S. Navy SEALs Lead and Win
Connect with Isaac:
Website: https://isaacetter.com/
Email: isaac@identitylearning.co
About me -- your host, Dr. Kristen Albert:
Dr. Kristen Albert, is a successful coach, WOB business owner, public speaker, and writer. She holds an Ed.D. in Leadership from the University of Delaware, a certificate in Ontological coaching from the Newfield Network, Boulder,CO.
Throughout her entire career, Kris has been dedicated to growing exceptional leaders – from the classroom to the board room, and everywhere in between. Kris is the President and Lead coach of Turning Points LLC and the host of the online Turning Points Leaders Community and the Turning Points in Leadership podcast. Her experience as an educator, coach, and leader allows her to bring a uniquely wise and highly effective approach to every interaction.
Kris is a proven leader and is proud to be rated in the top 2% of all leaders (globally) according on the Leadership Circle(R) assessment.
Through her work as a master coach and expert in adult learning, Kris's coaching clients have realized gains in all areas of their personal and business worlds including personal and organizational leadership, accountability, focus, communication skills, self-development and leadership effectiveness. Women leaders who work with Kris grow to see themselves as strong and capable leaders; they learn to embrace and leverage their uniqueness, grow in confidence and their ability to show up courageously and authentically, and with the ability to celebrate who they are and who they were created and gifted to be.
Kris lives her life with intention and works for social and racial justice, diversity, equity, and inclusion for all. She resides in Lancaster PA with her husband Doug and her cat Watson.
If you're ready to see beyond obstacles, push boundaries, and get things done, contact Kris for a conversation for possibilities.
Turning Points LLC--
Live. Work. Satisfied.
It's 11th Episode, and Dr. Kris thought it important that you get to know the woman behind the mic. So in this episode you'll get to know a bit about Kris, her journey into leadership, and what compels her to do this work.
Connect with Kris by joining the Turning Points Leadership Community: https://turning-points-community.mn.co/
Or on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkristenalbert/
Here's Kris's official bio:
Dr. Kristen Albert, is a successful coach, WOB business owner, public speaker, and writer. She holds an Ed.D. in Leadership from the University of Delaware, a certificate in Ontological coaching from the Newfield Network, Boulder,CO.
Throughout her entire career, Kris has been dedicated to growing exceptional leaders – from the classroom to the board room, and everywhere in between. Kris is the President and Lead coach of Turning Points LLC and the host of the online Turning Points Leaders Community and the Turning Points in Leadership podcast. Her experience as an educator, coach, and leader allows her to bring a uniquely wise and highly effective approach to every interaction.
Kris is a proven leader and is proud to be rated in the top 2% of all leaders (globally) according on the Leadership Circle(R) assessment.
Through her work as a master coach and expert in adult learning, Kris's coaching clients have realized gains in all areas of their personal and business worlds including personal and organizational leadership, accountability, focus, communication skills, self-development and leadership effectiveness. Women leaders who work with Kris grow to see themselves as strong and capable leaders; they learn to embrace and leverage their uniqueness, grow in confidence and their ability to show up courageously and authentically, and with the ability to celebrate who they are and who they were created and gifted to be.
Kris lives her life with intention and works for social and racial justice, diversity, equity, and inclusion for all. She resides in Lancaster PA with her husband Doug and her cat Watson.
If you're ready to see beyond obstacles, push boundaries, and get things done, contact Kris for a conversation for possibilities.
Turning Points LLC--
Live. Work. Satisfied.
Join the Turning Points Leadership Community: https://turning-points-community.mn.co/
Connect with Dr. Kristen Albert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkristenalbert/
About My Guest, Jinada Rochelle
Jinada Rochelle LLC is a company focused on providing Diversity, Equity and Inclusion training to businesses and community organizations. Through tailored training sessions, companies are provided an in-depth definition of DE&I, given tools to learn how to leverage its benefits, and practical steps to implement DE&I into their strategic plan. Prior to forming Jinada Rochelle LLC, Jinada worked for the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania at the Human Relations Commission. The Commission is charged with investigating unlawful claims of discrimination, conducting community outreach, engaging with business stakeholders, and assisting the citizens of Pennsylvania. In addition to working at the Commission, she worked for over 10 years in the private industry. She is a 2019 graduate of the Harrisburg MLK Leadership Institute and a graduate of the University of Pittsburgh. She has one adult son who is thriving in his own business.
Connect with Jinada:
Email: rochellellc@jinrochelle.com
Website: Jinrochelle.com
About me -- your host, Dr. Kristen Albert:
Dr. Kristen Albert, is a successful coach, WOB business owner, public speaker, and writer. She holds an Ed.D. in Leadership from the University of Delaware, a certificate in Ontological coaching from the Newfield Network, Boulder,CO.
Throughout her entire career, Kris has been dedicated to growing exceptional leaders – from the classroom to the board room, and everywhere in between. Kris is the President and Lead coach of Turning Points LLC and the host of the online Turning Points Leaders Community and the Turning Points in Leadership podcast. Her experience as an educator, coach, and leader allows her to bring a uniquely wise and highly effective approach to every interaction.
Kris is a proven leader and is proud to be rated in the top 2% of all leaders (globally) according on the Leadership Circle(R) assessment.
Through her work as a master coach and expert in adult learning, Kris's coaching clients have realized gains in all areas of their personal and business worlds including personal and organizational leadership, accountability, focus, communication skills, self-development and leadership effectiveness. Women leaders who work with Kris grow to see themselves as strong and capable leaders; they learn to embrace and leverage their uniqueness, grow in confidence and their ability to show up courageously and authentically, and with the ability to celebrate who they are and who they were created and gifted to be.
Kris lives her life with intention and works for social and racial justice, diversity, equity, and inclusion for all. She resides in Lancaster PA with her husband Doug and her cat Watson.
If you're ready to see beyond obstacles, push boundaries, and get things done, contact Kris for a conversation for possibilities.
Turning Points LLC--
Live. Work. Satisfied.
Join the Turning Points Leadership Community: https://turning-points-community.mn.co/
Connect with Dr. Kristen Albert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkristenalbert/
Meet my guest, Brian Graves
Brian is the Co-Founder and a lead organizer of the Lancaster Changemakers Collective, a volunteer-based organization focused on engaging and equipping the everyday citizen with information and assurance to build community and create sustainable, equitable change in Lancaster's neighborhoods. Brian is also a writer and teacher of children, with a passion for fostering creativity and high self-esteem in the youth.
Brian is a Lancaster native, born and raised in the heart of the city.They rose to prominence as a local activist in 2020 after calling attention to issues of racial injustice in the restaurant industry and co-founding the community organization, Lancaster Changemakers Collective. Additionally, they have taken on roles in the childcare programs and Center for Racial & Gender Equity at YWCA Lancaster. Brian now resides in Philadelphia but still maintains a close relationship with their hometown.
Connect with Brian by email: briangrves@gmail.com
Learn about Lancaster Changemakers Collective : https://www.lancasterchangemakers.org/
Follow Lancaster Changemakers:
On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/lancasterchangemakers/
On Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/lancasterchangemakers
On Twitter: https://twitter.com/lancasterchange
On Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCaOepgyzh8C8OV6-P0bhI5w
About me -- your host, Dr. Kristen Albert:
Dr. Kristen Albert, is a successful coach, WOB business owner, public speaker, and writer. She holds an Ed.D. in Leadership from the University of Delaware, a certificate in Ontological coaching from the Newfield Network, Boulder,CO.
Throughout her entire career, Kris has been dedicated to growing exceptional leaders – from the classroom to the board room, and everywhere in between. Kris is the President and Lead coach of Turning Points LLC and the host of the online Turning Points Leaders Community and the Turning Points in Leadership podcast. Her experience as an educator, coach, and leader allows her to bring a uniquely wise and highly effective approach to every interaction.
Kris is a proven leader and is proud to be rated in the top 2% of all leaders (globally) according on the Leadership Circle(R) assessment.
Through her work as a master coach and expert in adult learning, Kris's coaching clients have realized gains in all areas of their personal and business worlds including personal and organizational leadership, accountability, focus, communication skills, self-development and leadership effectiveness. Women leaders who work with Kris grow to see themselves as strong and capable leaders; they learn to embrace and leverage their uniqueness, grow in confidence and their ability to show up courageously and authentically, and with the ability to celebrate who they are and who they were created and gifted to be.
Kris lives her life with intention and works for social and racial justice, diversity, equity, and inclusion for all. She resides in Lancaster PA with her husband Doug and her cat Watson.
If you're ready to see beyond obstacles, push boundaries, and get things done, contact Kris for a conversation for possibilities.
Turning Points LLC--
Live. Work. Satisfied.
Join the Turning Points Leadership Community: https://turning-points-community.mn.co/
Connect with Dr. Kristen Albert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkristenalbert/
Connect with guest Dana Ellenberg via Email: Dana_herr@ml.com
About my guest, Dana Ellenberg Herr
Dana is a champion for women’s financial independence. She’s a wealth management advisor and she believes every woman should have her own money and have a clear understanding of their own investments and financial goals. Dana strives help women take charge of their own financial futures by helping them create a financial plan and providing them with the tools to reach their goals. She does this by making complicated financial terms familiar and by drawing out what’s really important in her clients’ lives. She believes that when women are more knowledgeable about their finances, they are more confident and intentional with their money. Dana helps her clients recognize that by thoughtfully defining what is most important, they will set goals that match their values and work to accomplish them. Dana has worked in the financial services indsutry for 29 years. She’s been recognized as the Forbes “American’s Top Women Wealth advisors Best-In-State” list for the past 2 years. She’s involved in the Lancaster community by actively volunteering with Girls on the Run, previously serving at Board Chair. She also sits on the Planned Giving Committee for Lancaster General Hospital and is on the Advisory Committee for Planned Parenthood. Dana has two amazing daughters, Abbey and Callie, and an incredible husband, Doug, who also happens to be her business partner. She is a distance runner and loves the freedom, solitude and connection that running provides. She’s a cat and horse lover, a walker, a swimmer and a writer. You can often find her with her family and friends, by the pool or at the barn.
About me -- your host, Dr. Kristen Albert:
Clients who choose me to be their coach, want to amplify their leadership capabilities, boost their confidence, and lead authentically from the core of who they are. They are ready to learn that no matter how natural a leader you may be, the secret to being an exceptional leader lies in intentionality.
As a leadership coach, I know unequivocally (and supported by research) the leadership characteristics that are positively correlated to leadership effectiveness, AND negatively correlated to leadership effectiveness. Most critically important is that I am skilled at helping individuals to not only identify the characteristics that are holding them back, but coaching them to reduce the negatively correlated characteristics while focusing intentionally on growing the skills that will create positive leadership impact.
As a woman, I know the barriers that women face,and that with my experience, my leadership expertise and my skill-set, I know I am meant to serve and support women leaders. I am an unapologetic feminist, and I believe that we women can change the world with our leadership.
Simply put, your development as an exemplary leader is simply too valuable a resource to be left to chance.
If you're ready to see beyond obstacles, push boundaries, and get things done, contact me for a conversation for possibilities.
Turning Points LLC--
Live. Work. Satisfied.
*https://leadershipcircle.com/
**https://www.positiveintelligence.com/
Join the Turning Points Leadership Community: https://turning-points-community.mn.co/
Connect with Dr. Kristen Albert: https://www.linkedin.com/in/drkristenalbert/
Connect with guest Jannat Veras:
Email: jannatbeautydesign@gmail.com
Website: www.jannatbeautydesign.com
Instagram: @jannatbeautydesign
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/JannatBeautyDesign
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jannat-veras-b7023337/
About me -- your host, Dr. Kristen Albert:
Clients who choose me to be their coach, want to amplify their leadership capabilities, boost their confidence, and lead authentically from the core of who they are. They are ready to learn that no matter how natural a leader you may be, the secret to being an exceptional leader lies in intentionality.
As a leadership coach, I know unequivocally (and supported by research) the leadership characteristics that are positively correlated to leadership effectiveness, AND negatively correlated to leadership effectiveness. Most critically important is that I am skilled at helping individuals to not only identify the characteristics that are holding them back, but coaching them to reduce the negatively correlated characteristics while focusing intentionally on growing the skills that will create positive leadership impact.
As a woman, I know the barriers that women face,and that with my experience, my leadership expertise and my skill-set, I know I am meant to serve and support women leaders. I am an unapologetic feminist, and I believe that we women can change the world with our leadership.
Simply put, your development as an exemplary leader is simply too valuable a resource to be left to chance.
If you're ready to see beyond obstacles, push boundaries, and get things done, contact me for a conversation for possibilities.
Turning Points LLC--
Live. Work. Satisfied.
*https://leadershipcircle.com/
**https://www.positiveintelligence.com/
About my guest, Jannat Veras, Founder/Owner of Jannat Beauty Design
Jannat Veras is a small business owner and operator for over 28 years. After successfully
completing a Diploma in Hair Design and Cosmetology, she went on to complete a teacher
course in the related field. She also completed a business training program. After obtaining
state licensure, she set up her first place of business in 1998.
Currently Jannat operates Jannat Beauty Design as a single operator in her studio. She has part
time assistance with the administrative work of the business. She serves clients from all over
Lancaster County and walks of life. She is fully bilingual/bicultural and serves the Latino
community and other diverse populations with the necessary skills to meet their unique hair
care needs. Jannat is currently exploring expanding her business to include mentoring and
training others in the field and offering additional services to meet the holistic needs of clients.
Jannat is a leader in the Lancaster community. As a successful winner of the 2000 Economic
Development Alliance-Minority and Women Business award she proved her business expertise
and commitment to the community. Her leadership skills were further demonstrated as she
expanded her original salon in 1998 to a larger business. She mentored up to 3 new stylists at a
time and gave them opportunity to earn their own money and develop a client base. Many of
these women went on to establish their own successful independent hair salons. After almost
9 years, Jannat downsized to her current single operator business to accommodate her growing family’s needs.
Turning Points in Leadership 7 The Inner Game as the Path to Leadership Excellence: An Interview with Geoff Davis
Join the Turning Points Leadership Community at: https://turning-points-community.mn.co/
Connect with Geoff Davis at: gdavis@conversationswork.com, https://conversationswork.com/
Watch Curtis Watkins presentation at: https://youtu.be/uw_aRq59OM8
TRANSCRIPT:
Hi, and welcome to Turning Points in Leadership. My name is Dr. Kris Albert and I'm the host of this Turning Points in Leadership Podcast. And I'm really thrilled that you've joined us today in this Turning Points Leadership podcast. My goal is for my listeners to get to hear from extraordinary leaders who are leading in their spheres of influence who don't necessarily need to have a title or a position of privilege to be able to lead. And so I look forward to you getting to know my guests today. My guests are leading in bold and inspiring ways, and I trust that as you listen, you, you too are going to be inspired by my guests and what they have to say.
I would like to introduce to you and welcome my guest, Geoff Davis. Hello, Geoff. How's your spirit today? It's great, Kris. Thanks for having me. I love your big smile . That's great. Podcast listeners who are listening, you don't see great. Geoff's big, big smile, but it's like ear to ear. It's so cool. So let me tell you all a little bit about Geoff.
Geoff is the president of his own coaching firm conversations, and Geoff uses his unique gifts and broad array of experiences to help others discover, uncover, and more fully realize the infinite possibilities, incredible fullness, and often overlooked richness in their own lives. As an executive and leadership development coach for over 25 years, Geoff serves regional, national and international businesses, nonprofits, academic leaders and coaches through coaching relationships.
He's committed to lifelong learning and believes that the coach is never done growing. In addition to his coaching practice, Geoff also realizes his purpose through an active ministry in his church, participation in leadership in local musical organizations. He's a lifelong tuba player, and we'll talk about that in just a moment.
And service to local nonprofits. Geoff and I have known each other for Geoff, can you believe it? 43 years. First as musicians playing together at his brass quintet and in these past years as my coach, my mentor, and my dear friend. And so I'm excited to be in this seat to ask questions of Geoff today. He is just exceedingly generous in his gifts with his gifts and his wisdom.
And I'm excited to learn how his life experiences informed who, who he is and how he leads. And as I said, I hope that, that you as my audience will be also be inspired so that you will become a catalyst for change in your spheres of influence. So Geoff, thanks again for being a guest on my podcast.
Well, thanks again for having me. It's it's a privilege. It's gonna be fun to do this today. It definitely will. Shall we tell them any more about our, our musical connections? You wanna tell 'em how we first got connected? Well I was a teacher at Hempfield High School and Kris was a student and I wanted to play quintet music again.
I hadn't played quintet music for quite some. And being a tuba player you think that you have the most unique instrument, but the horn, the french horn, is the instrument that is often the most difficult to find. So I had two trumpets. I had a trombone. I, I was looking for a horn player, and Kris was the one who I contacted and asked if she'd wanted to play.
And we, we, we formed the sounds of brass, which was quintet that ran for about 30. Before we we disbanded it. And my, my fondest memory is when we came in second place in the the Ragtime Festival we came in second place and won I think some Some savings bonds. Yes. $25 savings bonds, $25 savings bonds.
And we came in second place, but that was because there were only two groups in the, in the contest , we lost a piano player who played rag time. Yeah. Gosh. Too funny. And, and Geoff, you and I spent many hours commuting to Bainbridge Band rehearsals and just all kinds of stuff, but yeah. Your invitation to, to play in your quintet, I was 17 years old.
Right. And you were a teacher at At Hempfield. And. , I mean, to just be invited to play with your quintet was just such an honor. So that was neat. So a little as a little bit of insight into both of us that I don't think our listeners knew which is a lot of fun. Well, should we hop into some of the questions our interview today?
Excellent. Excellent. So I'm really curious to know what are some of. Early experiences of leadership, these could be times that you remember where you stepped into leadership, or it could be times where you are, you were observing someone else in leadership and maybe scratching your head or maybe looking wide-eyed and saying, that's what I wanna do.
I mean, it could be anything, but I'd like you to share with the, with the audience your experiences of, of leadership from an, your earliest experiences from an early age. Well, as a kid, I remember that the thing that I thought about when I thought about leaders was, first of all, they were old guys.
They were all guys. They were all men. And that they had all the answers. They knew everything. And they, I would be in awe of these guys whenever we traveled around the city. My dad was a, a, a director of purchasing for New Holland Machine Company, and he. , he was a leader, but I never really thought of him as a leader and I really didn't get too much involved in leadership until high school.
When when I was sent by McCaskey High School, they sent me to be the representative to the Rotary Leaders Camp. Wow. Which was a camp that was held at one of the local camps for a week where you went to learn about leadership. You were picked up by one of the Rotary Club members. For me, it was Mr. Andy Ro, who picked me up. He was the head of Rote Steel, picked me up in his Cadillac, I remember that, and drove me to the camp and picked me up at the end of the week and brought me home. And I don't remember much about the camp, but I do remember the, the Cadillac the the the leadership that I first exhibited and, and was involved in.
As the president of something called Hangout Council. The Y W C A used to have dances every, every Saturday night, and I was a DJ for the dances for two of the three years that I was in high school, and that meant every Saturday night I was down spinning records in the record booth and, and booking the groups that came in. But I was also president of the council of of teenagers from across the county who was. Task with putting on the dances, advertising them, and getting the chaperones that we needed. So that was my earliest memories of leadership. And and then, and then I, I evolved in leaders leadership positions.
I started my career as a teacher at Hempfield. And after about 10 years, The, the department chairman was going to retire, and several of the teachers approached me and said, well, you have to apply for this job. So I said, well, I don't really want the job. I just wanna teach. Well, but you have to. So, being a compiler that I was in part of my life, I decided that I would go and get my degree in supervision from Millersville and qualify myself for the position as department chairman and I got the job and I, I thought it was up to me to get everything done. Then I went to work at ISC, at which was a local company and an international company, and within six months I found myself leading a new company that we founded, an educational technology. . And what I think about when I look back on those days is how little I knew about leadership.
But yeah, that, that's a, a long answer to your question. I hope it's okay.
Absolutely. You know, I think it's so interesting just that, just the beginning of the, your story with Rotary and them selecting you for this leadership camp, I mean that somebody saw in you. This, these leadership potential or leadership qualities and inviting you into that space and and just that being kind of a starting point, a catalyst.
Did you think of yourself as a leader at that, at that time? No. No, no. I just thought of myself as a guy, you know? I was, yeah, I was, I was the guy who was just trying to get through school and navigate life, trying to figure out life at that point. , isn't that the truth? Yeah. Yeah. And then the point that you, you know, the point that you made about looking back and realizing how little you knew about leadership.
I'm sure we'll talk more about that as we go along. But that I, that is, I think one of the, the most profound things that I've learned from your influence and is that leadership is a very intentional and specific, specific and intentional process. And that it's not just looking back and saying, boy, I didn't know anything about leadership, but now that you know what, you know, , you realize you didn't. Well, the thing that I've seen most often is I think that people look at leadership through the lens of their technical expertise. So they think that by by honing their technical expertise, they'll become leaders automatically. Yes. When in fact, leadership is a, a whole different area of study. I tell many of the people I've coached over the years that your new profession is now leadership.
It's no longer engineering or accounting or, or even. It's, it's leadership and leadership is a, is a, is a, a field that needs to be studied and and understood from, from several different levels. I'm sure we'll talk about later too. Yeah. I love how you've articulated it that way, but your career is actually leadership.
That's really profound. Yeah, we will definitely dive into that. So, I'm curious you've alluded to some of this, but in what ways did your family, your cultural influences or your community shape, the way you view leadership? Well, I think, you know, I, I grew up in a, a row house in Lancaster and we were the kids that went to Wharton Elementary School.
That's, that's a fun thing I can tell people I have. I, I have a degree from Wharton. He graduated from Wharton--Wharton Elementary School, right. . But but we were the kids who were the have-nots as opposed to the kids that lived on the other side of f and m College who were the haves.
These were kids who every every week would get outta school in the afternoon to go to the Cotillion Club and learn how to dance and Wow. Use their manners and things like that, whereas we stayed back and did extra homework and many of our elementary teachers told us that we weren't gonna mount too much.
And my, my friend who was probably one of the most successful engineering companies in, in in the area that he founded years ago told me recently, he still thinks of himself not good. and I still have some of those feelings. I still find myself at different places. Like if I go to the country club for an event, I'll say to myself, I don't belong here.
Well, that influenced my whole view of leadership. That leaders were the people who were the in select chn. They were the ones who knew everything and, and I was just a follower who was supposed to do what I was supposed to. . That was a big influence on me till I, I realized that I had more to offer than that.
And as you talk about that, I think about one of the things that I believe is that from the time we step foot out of bed in the morning, every single one of us is leading in some way, positive or negatively. , we're leading ourselves, we're leading our families. We might step into leadership in the community at our work, no matter what that work is, every interaction with someone else has leadership embedded in it.
Ken Wilber wrote a book called Situational Leadership. Hmm. Made the distinction between positional leadership and and situational leadership. And he. , every situation, leadership emerges. And, and I've seen that throughout my life, that there are times where the positional leaders are not leading.
It's the people who know the most and who are, who are most qualified to to lead the situation. So, so I think that's, that's an important concept that you're talking about. It's, it's the fact that every. Has an area in which they lead, whether it's in their families or their churches or their communities or their neighborhoods, or their schools or their work.
Absolutely. And as a, and as a child, so, you know, as one of the kids on the other side of town that didn't go to the Cotillion Club, that stayed back and did homework and that saw yourself as the have not that was really
This was really a shift for you to, to see yourself as a leader when in those growing up years, you, you know, you didn't feel that way from, I, I think that that actually helped me because I believe it, it instilled in me the, the desire to want to prove people were wrong. Hmm. Yes. I've done my entire life.
Ah, interesting. From
from. . My, my dad left us when we were when I was a senior in high school. And I didn't go to the school I thought I would go to, so I went to Millersville and I worked full-time and went to school full-time and graduated in four years because I had a, a desire to become a teacher. I knew that's what I wanted to do.
Hmm. I knew that's what I was called to do and nothing was gonna stand in my way. . That was, that was good, but it was also bad cause it also nurtured in me the type a workaholic get things done, guy that I became Ah, very interesting. Yeah. Yeah. So those, those characteristics that serve you can also become characteristics that your shadow.
Yeah, yeah, absolutely. So, As you look around our society with people you work with, live with, interact with or who you know, your community, however you, you define the people around you, what do you want them to know or invite them to think about when it comes to. Leadership, what would you like to invite people to, you know, our listeners, what would you like to invite them to listen, to, explore or think about?
When it comes to leadership,
one of the things that I think is probably the most essential is to understand the inner game of leadership. So there, there are three levels of competence that are, are defining for leaders. There's leader. Process leadership competence and leadership consciousness. Leadership process includes things like budgeting, strategic planning project management.
Their processes that leaders need to be familiar with. Those processes can only be as effective as they are informed by the leadership competencies that. . There are people at the Ivy School of Business in Canada who have done some work on enterprise leadership, and they define these five different areas of competence.
You need to have people skills, you need to have business skills, organizational skills strategic skills, and general intelligence in order to be able to use those processes in ways that make. That's, that comprises what's called the outer game of leadership. The inner game is the, the, the leadership consciousness which drives the outer game.
The inner game is the, the the stage of development that you're, you're operating at. Which of course if we, if we had more time, we probably could go into that more in depth, but there are different stages of development. And one of the things that I've worked on the last several years, To study the work of Bob Anderson and Bill Adams, who have been influential in my, my thinking and my life.
And they, they both have have written a book called Mastering Leadership and in it they define these stages of development that there are five stages starting with the egocentric stage, which is the the stage of development that babies have when they're born. They, they. They are self-centered.
They make up the rules for their lives. Nobody tells them what to do. They do what they want, and 5% of all leaders are still stuck there, according to Bob Anderson Anderson and Bill Adams. Then there's the reactive stage of what Robert Kegan calls the socialized mind. This is the mind is defined by the the script that they run in their heads that.
It's up to me to do do things to get things done, but I have to get it done by doing and being what other people think I should be, even if they never tell me what that is. Bob Anderson's research shows there are 70% of all leaders who are stuck in that mode. So 75% of all leaders are either egocentric or reactive.
Then there's the creative stage of development. The creative stage is the stage that , begin to self-author, you begin to realize you don't have to follow all these scripts that you were taught as an adolescence to, to get through and be admitted into adulthood. And about 20% of all leisures are there.
And then the last two are called the integral and the unit of stages. The integral stage is where you recognize that you can't get it all done yourself. You need to work with other people. Unit of stage is where you understand your life. In service of a larger purpose. And Bob Anderson says that can only be achieved through longtime spiritual practices.
So to me, the most important thing to realize as a leader is, is that the inner game runs the outer game. And if 75% of the leaders are egocentric or, or reactive, they're unaware of their unaware. They're not even aware that they, they are they have an issue. Yes. And, and the, the big takeaway for me from all that research is that 95% of all leaders are unequipped to deal with Luca today.
Volatility, uncertainty, complexity and ambiguity. A, a term that's been replaced recently by some research that talks about B A N I. , they say that VUCA volatility has been replaced by brittleness uncertainty, replaced by anxiety. Mm-hmm. complexity replaced by non-linear thinking and ambiguity replaced by things that are incomprehensible.
Hmm. So, for me, the future and, and this describes the next generation of business and, and organizational leader. , which we see in schools, which we see in businesses, which we see everywhere. And to me it's one of the things that is, is most important as we, as we consider what's going on today. Mm-hmm.
and that invitation for people to, to take a look at what work have, have folks done on their inner game. Yeah. And the guess what's your. What percentage of people have actually who are out there in the working world and who are leading have that? I don't think, I don't think it's more than 20%. Cause cause I think of myself.
So up till I was 48 years old, I was a type A workaholic, get things done, guy. That was me. I was a controller, I was a perfectionist, I was ambitious, I was driven, I was auto. I was all the things that I look back on and say, what the heck was I doing? But I mean, that's the natural progression of development.
Sure. As I look back on myself, I say to myself, what was the single greatest thing that helped me change? And it was having a coach. My coach, my first coach, Melissa McNair, was one of the...
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KRIS
Hello and welcome to Turning Points in Leadership. I am Dr. Kristen Albert, and I'm happy that you joined us today. I want to tell you a little bit about the Turning Points Leadership Podcast so that you have a context for what it is that we do here in the podcast, I interview folks who are changing the image of the leader from having to be someone at the top of the corporate ladder, or holding a title of privilege to be able to have influence.
Instead, my guests are leading change in bold and inspiring ways, and I hope that you, my audience, will be inspired by them and consider how you can become a catalyst for change in your spheres of influence. And today I want to welcome my. Educator, author and speaker, Dr. Laurie Schwartz Reichl. Hi Laurie.
I'm so glad we have this time together today. Thanks for being my guest.
LORI
Thank you for having me. I appreciate having the space to share my ideas and experiences to have them heard and be valued, so thank you so much.
KRIS
Oh, absolutely. One of the things I I have dedicated myself to is especially amplifying women's voices leaders, women who are leaders and amplifying women's voices because we haven't always been heard.
So I'm very excited for you to be able share that with folks. So let me tell the audience a little bit about you. Dr. Laurie...
Join the Turning Points Leadership Community by visiting https://turning-points-community.mn.co/ (https://turning-points-community.mn.co/). Special offer expires on November 14, 2022. In this episode, Kris interviews entrepreneur and coach, Valissa Pierrelouis. Valissa is the Founder & CEO of Standout Career Guide, a leadership coaching practice where she helps driven career women learn how to find where to ramp up their value, voice or visibility so they can create career outcomes they deserve--without being an extrovert or overworking. Valissa believes that talented, driven career women already have what it takes; the issue is many of them may not always know it, feel it, show it, share it or pursue it in a way that gets them what they deserve. That was Valissa after transitioning from an executive leadership role, with a start-up, to Corporate America. She found herself challenged to get to the next level. She was sitting at a three-year career plateau and she felt stuck. What she learned moved her from stuck to unstoppable. This led to three promotions in five years. And today she shares and supports women with her “secret sauce” so they too can ramp up their value, voice, and visibility.
In this episode, Kris interviews José Matthews. Over the past decade, Kris has watched José step in and claim his space and voice as a leader in healthcare, education, and local and state government in the state of Delaware. Learn about José's self-discovery as a leader, his family and cultural influences, his words of wisdom and invitation to you, as a listener, to think about when it comes to recognizing and stepping into leadership in your spheres of influence. About José Over the last decade, José Matthews has worked in healthcare within various roles and settings from direct bedside care to health system executive and governance support. Successfully navigating the ranks, his work specializes in board governance, office operations, project management, cultural affairs, and community engagement. Professionally, José is a member of the Children’s Hospital of Philadelphia’s Global Medicine Business Development team and is also an active member of the National Association of Health Service Executives. In service, José is the Vice President the Red Clay School District Board of Education - elected at the age of 22, at the time the youngest public official in the State of Delaware. In that role, he also serves on the District’s Health and Facilities committees. José’s service extends to a plethora of other foundation boards, local government appointments, and non-profit organizations focused on the betterment of health, wellness, education, and communities. José attended Wilmington University, where he received his bachelors of science in Health Science.
In this month's episode of the Turning Points in Leadership Podcast, Dr. Kristen Albert interviews Meghan Bradley Hooper. As a professional educator, instructional coach, and fierce advocate for social and racial justice, Meghan has seen A LOT of change. In this episode, Meghan will discuss her earliest memories of leadership, her cultural and family influences, and we'll tackle a tough conversation about surrounding yourself with people whom you trust to not just tell you what they think you want to hear!
Educators, #PennStaters, and #musiceducators --you'll hear some stories that will definitely resonate with you!
About Meghan Bradley Hooper: Meghan Hooper has been going to school for nearly all of her 38 years. A professional educator entering the sixteenth year of her career, Meghan taught high school Physics for nine years before taking on coaching roles as a Technology Integrator, Instructional Coach, and now Student Engagement Facilitator. Whether working with students or with adults, her goals in all learning partnerships are the same: to build trusting relationships, to model inquiry and lifelong learning, to design learning experiences that are meaningful and memorable, and to make a difference in the world. Meghan has a Bachelor's degree in Secondary Education from Penn State University, a Masters of Educational Leadership from Saint Francis University, and an Online Instruction Endorsement from Millersville University. She lives and works in Lancaster County with her husband Wayne and their dog Capone.
Dr. Kris Albert is changing the image of a leader having to be someone at the top of the corporate ladder, or holding a title of privilege to be able to make a difference. Instead, Kris's guests are leading change in bold and inspiring ways, and she want YOU, her audience, to be inspired by her guest, and to consider how YOU can become a catalyst for change in your spheres of influence. In this episode, Kris interviews Lana Jelenjev, Community Alchemist and designer. Lana dedicates her work to promoting systemic and regenerative change. Lana “guides founders, change-makers, and impact driven organizations to action. She helps them to create big picture visions, catalyze the potential within their communities, and design learning experiences for transformational and lasting impact." Connect with Lana at https://www.lanajelenjev.com/
Welcome to the Turning Points in Leadership Podcast. Kris believes that every one of us is capable of leading, and also responsible for positive leadership within our spheres of influence. In fact, throughout her entire career Kris has been dedicated to growing exceptional leaders – from the classroom to the board room, and everywhere in between. Listeners -- Prepare to embrace challenges and step into your authority as a leader to create positive change in your sphere of influence.