The Digital Public Interest Collective Podcast: Recent Episodes
Digital Public Interest Collective
The Digital Public Interest (DPI) Collective podcast is a series-based production that explores the different ways that digital communication technologies contribute to the public interest, and the ways in which they undermine it. You'll hear conversations with scholars and industry experts on such topics as online abuse, misinformation, and more. This podcast is the brain child of Jaigris Hodson, Chandell Gosse, Victoria O’Meara, and Andrea Galizia. Find out more about the work of the DPI Collective on our website: https://www.dpicollective.com/
In this episode, George and I sit down with Mark Brown and Kathrin Otrel-Cass to continue our conversations with experts on the future of education. This episode covers a lot of ground on the topic of education futures, with our Mark and Kathrin voicing similar hopes to other guests around a desire for slower, more ethical futures. We also get into the nitty gritty of what futures can and can’t do for us in the present. What are we actually doing when we imagine the future? What are the limits of this work? What are our responsibilities as publicly-funded scholars when we futures methodologies become part of how we do research? It’s a thoughtful conversation that will further the discussion on what education futures can be.
Learn more about Mark’s at his blog: https://markbrown.blog
and through his academic page: https://www.dcu.ie/nidl/people/mark-brown
Books mentioned by Mark:
Weller, M. (2022). Metaphors of edtech. https://www.aupress.ca/books/120309-metaphors-of-ed-tech/
Postman, N. (1971). Teaching is a subversive activity. Penguin Random House. https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/132782/teaching-as-a-subversive-activity-by-neil-postman/
Learn more about Kathrin’s work at her Google Scholar page: https://scholar.google.dk/citations?user=7-Eeh-YAAAAJ&hl=en
In this conversation with Amy Sojot, Shandell and Amy dive into science fiction as a tool for thinking about education futures. They get pretty nerdy on some of Amy’s research, drilling down into the details of her recent paper “Cronenberg pedagogies and fleshy possibilities for education futures,” which is a weird and as fun as it sounds.
Learn more about Amy at her website: https://www.amysojot.com
Amy’s article “Cronenberg pedagogies and fleshy possibilities for education futures” which we discuss at length.
https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/10.1177/14782103211052153
What is the value of making art for doing scholarly research and creating knowledge? What can we learn about learning and education from appreciating what different education systems offer or constrain? In this conversation with Dr. Nilofar Shidmehr, an Iranian Canadian poet, we meander through these questions, exploring what creativity, imagination, and perhaps most importantly, connection mean to learning today.
Learn more about Nilofar at her blog: https://nilofarshidmehr.com
In this episode, George and I chat with Felicitas Macgilchrist about the future of education. It’s a free ranging conversation, in which we go deep into design and the ethics of design in education. We talk about futures in which slowness is centred, considering how we might make better space for ourselves and each other, and how those of us with privilege can promote the already incredible futures work happening in places around the world today. We also get into the thinking about what the metaphor of rewilding can tell us about digital education today and into the future, and how awesome science fiction is.
Learn more about Felicitas at her academic page: https://www.uni-goettingen.de/en/555243.html
Visit her work at: https://scholar.google.com/citations?hl=en&user=LO64kxoAAAAJ&view_op=list_works&sortby=pubdate
Content mentions:
Felicitas’s article on rewilding education: https://www.oneducation.net/no-12_december-2021/rewilding-technology/
Dillon, S. & Schaffer-Goddard, J. (2023).What AI researchers read: the role of literature in artificial intelligence research. Interdisciplinary Science Reviews, 48(1), 15-42, DOI: 10.1080/03080188.2022.2079214
Tsing, A. (2015). The Mushroom at the End of the World: On the Possibility of Life in Capitalist Ruins. Princeton University Press.
Tsing, A. (2017). Arts of living on a damaged planet. University of Minnesota Press.
Tuck, E. & Yang, K.W. (2012). Decolonization is not a metaphor. Decolonization is not a metaphor. Decolonization: Indigeneity, education & society, 1(1). https://clas.osu.edu/sites/clas.osu.edu/files/Tuck%20and%20Yang%202012%20Decolonization%20is%20not%20a%20metaphor.pdf
Design justice network: https://designjustice.org
Authors mentioned: Nnedi Okorafor, Octavia Butler, Martha Wells, Becky Chambers
In this episode, George and I sit down with Dr. Eamon Costello and Lily Girme to get their insights into the future of education and how speculative methodologies can help us subvert expectations about the future and how thinking about the future can be an act of resistance. With these two scholars, we begin to wonder how thinking about the future can be a process of connection and appreciation, and where it allows us to work towards not just liberatory futures, but also liberatory presents.
Learn more about Eamon at his academic page: https://www.dcu.ie/stemeducationinnovationglobalstudies/people/eamon-costello
And about Lily’s via her Twitter: https://twitter.com/lilygirme and Google Scholar page:
https://scholar.google.ca/citations?hl=en&user=AQH1nmMAAAAJ&view_op=list_works&sortby=pubdate
Content mentioned:
Czerniewicz, L., & Cronin, C. (Forthcoming). Higher education for good: Teaching and Learning futures.
De Oliveira/ Andreotti, V. (2022). Hospicing Modernity.
In this conversation with Helen Nde, we dive deep into understanding storytelling and the power of story for education, and learn from Helen about the role that storytelling from the African continent has for education into the future. Helen’s rich insights into story as a cultural process remind us about the need for and benefits of diverse storytelling in our worlds. Learn more about Helen’s work at her blog: https://www.helennde.com
In our inaugural episode of this series, George and I chat with Jen Ross about the future of education, and in particular we examine the role of speculative methodologies for thinking about the future. Jen, who recently published with Routledge the book Digital Futures for Learning: Speculative Methods and Pedagogies, helpfully defines for us what we mean when we talk about speculative methods. What is the value of speculating about the future, and the future of education? How does thinking about the future help us make the present a more just place to live? It’s a wide ranging conversation helpful not just for thinking about education, but for anyone who wants to have a better sense of why thinking about and imagining diverse futures is important, and almost as importantly, why it’s fun.
Learn more about Jen at her blog and check out her new book here!
http://jenrossity.net/blog/
https://www.taylorfrancis.com/books/mono/10.4324/9781003202134/digital-futures-learning-jen-ross
Other books mentioned:
Crary, J. (2022). Scorched Earth. Verso Books. https://www.versobooks.com/en-ca/products/214-scorched-earth
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Nora Loreto:
https://noraloreto.substack.com/
www.Sandyandnora.com
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Shandell Houlden:
https://www.royalroads.ca/people/shandell-houlden
https://scholar.google.ca/citations?user=wWOuOQgAAAAJ&hl=en
dpicollective.com
Learn more about Chandell Gosse:
Twitter: @chandellenid
dpicollective.com
www.cgosse.ca
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Victoria O’Meara:
Twitter: @vickiomeara
Dpicollective.com
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Stephan Lewandowsky : inoculation.science
Conspiracy handbook: sks.to/conspiracy
Debunking handbook: sks.to/db2020
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Yochai Benkler: https://hls.harvard.edu/faculty/yochai-benkler/
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Timothy Caulfield:
@Scienceupfirst
Twitter and Instagram. @caulfieldtim
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Anatoliy Gruzd and Philip Mai:
www.socialmedialab.ca
Twitter: @smlabto
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Geo Takach:
https://geotakach.ca/
https://www.royalroads.ca/people/geo-takach
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Nancy Rosenblum:
https://scholar.harvard.edu/nrosenblum/home
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Cailin O’Connor:
Twitter: @Cailinmeister
This episode explores the impacts of online abuse on academic work. Professors Cassidy and Veletsianos each have explored online abuse in education. Cassidy explores how cyber bullying impacts students and faculty in both higher education and public education (K-12). Veletsianos has explored how online abuse impacts scholars in institutions of higher education. Cassidy commented on the overlap between gender, race, and incidents of online abuse or cyber bullying, and showed that online abuse or cyber bullying is not confined to youth or children, but impacts adults as well. And the stakes are high. As Veletsianos points out, online abuse has chilling effects which can leave the public less informed and have profound educational impacts even leading to misinformation. What we were really struck by in this episode was the similarities between the ways Cassidy and Veletsianos both advocate for more care and support to help address online abuse or cyber bullying. Cassidy uses the term “cyber kindness” as a way to mitigate online abuse. Both also emphasize the power of education as a way to address online abuse at every level.
Hosted by Dr. Chandell Gosse, Dr. Victoria O’Meara and Andrea Galizia
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Dr. George Veletsianos: https://www.veletsianos.com/
Learn more about Dr. Wanda Cassidy: https://www.sfu.ca/education/cels.html
In this episode we chat with law professor Suzie Dunn about the role legal remedies play in providing support for targets of TFVA.
Here are links to learn more about some of the topics we discuss:
- The eQuality Project: www.equalityproject.ca
- Rehtaeh Parsons’ story: www.rehtaehparsons.ca/
- Amanda Todd’s story: www.amandatoddlegacy.org/
- Context about Gamergate: www.publicaffairsbooks.com/titles/zoe-quinn/crash-override/9781610398091/
- Clare McGlynn article: www.vox.com/first-person/2017/7/8/15934434/rob-kardashian-blac-chyna-revenge-porn-abuse
- Australia eSafety Commissioner: www.esafety.gov.au/
- R v. Fox: www.cbc.ca/news/canada/british-columbia/b-c-man-charges-revenge-website-1.5729791
Hosted by Dr. Chandell Gosse, Dr. Victoria O’Meara and Andrea Galizia
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Follow Suzie Dunn on Twitter @SuzieMDunn or check out her website: https://www.suziedunn.com/
In this episode, Chandell, Victoria, and Andrea speak to Dr. Ferber about the ways in which online abuse impacts Academics and Academic Institutions more broadly. Dr. Ferber, a professor in sociology and Associate Director of the Matrix Center for the Advancement of Social Equity and Inclusion, discusses how online abuse in the academy intersects with social categories such as race, gender, and political ideology.
Below are some of Abby’s publications that were referenced in the episode:
- White Privilege: What Everyone Needs to Know
- The Matrix of Race
- White Man Falling: Race, Gender and White Supremacy
- Home-Grown Hate
- “Are You Willing to Die for This Work?” Public Targeted Online Harassment in Higher Education: SWS Presidential Address
Additional resources mentioned in the episode for anyone looking to learn more:
- Rethinking Research Ethics, Power, and the Risk of Visibility in the Era of the “Alt-Right” Gaze by Adrienne Massanari: https://journals.sagepub.com/doi/full/10.1177/2056305118768302
- Pew research article: https://www.pewresearch.org/social-trends/2019/08/19/the-growing-partisan-divide-in-views-of-higher-education-2/
Hosted by Dr. Chandell Gosse, Dr. Victoria O’Meara and Andrea Galizia
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Dr. Abby Ferber: https://sociology.uccs.edu/abby-ferber and The Knapsack Institute
This episode features the insights and expertise of Games Studies scholars and gaming enthusiasts Dr. Kishonna Gray and Dr. Emma Vossen. Dr. Gray is an Associate Professor in Writing, Rhetoric, and Digital Studies at the University of Kentucky and Dr. Vossen is the Research Communications Officer for the Games Institute at the University of Waterloo. Both have written extensively about gaming and games culture from an intersectional feminist and critical perspective. In this episode Kishonna and Emma draw our attention to the broader structural violence that is at the heart of online abuse in gaming spaces and cultures. They explain why we shouldn’t expect platform companies to fix these problem and why we should be listening to black and indigenous women instead.
You can find both Kishonna and Emma on Twitter @EquityinGaming and @emmahvossen
Check out Kishonna’s latest book Intersectional Tech: Black Users in Digital Gaming, and watch out for Emma’s upcoming book Historiographies of Game Studies: What it Has Been, What it Could Be, which we’ll link to here when it becomes available.
Below are some resources mentioned in the episode for anyone looking to learn more:
- Crash Override: How Gamergate (Nearly) Destroyed My Life, and How We Can Win the Fight Against Online Hate by Zoe Quinn
- Why Are You So Angry? by Innuendo Studios
- Q: Into the Storm, HBO Official Trailer
Hosted by Dr. Chandell Gosse, Dr. Victoria O’Meara and Andrea Galizia
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
In this episode, Chandell, Victoria, and Andrea speak with Abigail Curlew, a journalist and PhD candidate at Carleton University studying online anti-trans hate groups. In this conversation you’ll hear Abigail talk about her research on the communities, strategies, and values of online anti-trans hate groups; her efforts to bridge the divide by having tough conversations with TERFs online; some of her own experiences with online abuse; as well as the cultural shifts that need to happen in order for real change to take place. Watch out for her upcoming book, DIY Gender Police: Doxxing, (Trans)Misogyny, and the Blight of Far-Right Digital Abuse, which we’ll link to here when it becomes available.
Follow Abigail on Twitter: @curlew_a and visit her Linktree to read her work.
Below are some resources for anyone seeking more information on some of the issues discussed in this episode:
- What is Deadnaming?, Source: Healthline
- Doxing, Source: Wikipedia
- Transmisogyny, Source: The Queer Dictionary
- Online Misogyny and Feminist Digilantism by Emma Jane, Source: Taylor & Francis Online
Hosted by Dr. Chandell Gosse, Dr. Victoria O’Meara and Andrea Galizia
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Journalists are often taught to embrace the hostility that may come as a result of their reporting, because that means they are likely ‘doing something right’. But what impact does the harassment of journalists have on their ability to do their job and the type of news that gets reported? In this episode, we speak with Dr. Kaitlin Miller and Dr. Michelle Ferrier about the harms that online harassment of journalists can cause to journalists themselves, but also to society at large. Dr. Miller and Dr. Ferrier provide a candid account about how online harassment currently plays out in the field of journalism.
Hosted by Dr. Chandell Gosse, Dr. Victoria O’Meara and Andrea Galizia
Music by hungry hearts: https://hungryheartsrock.bandcamp.com/
Learn more about Dr. Michelle Ferrier:
http://www.troll-busters.com/
Learn more about Dr. Kaitlin Miller:
https://cis.ua.edu/cis-theme-staff/kaitlin-miller/