Bodies Behind The Bus: Recent Episodes
Bodies Behind The Bus
The Bodies Behind the Bus is a podcast centering on the voices of spiritual abuse victims from within the Acts 29 network. We are the discarded few. We have been abused, gaslit, ignored, slandered, deceived, intentionally hurt, and betrayed. Our stories were manipulated and our voices were stolen. We were left alone with all the confusion, grief, hurt, and pain but today we begin to reclaim our stories and find our voices once again because we matter, and being a body behind the bus is not the gospel.
Bel joins us from Australia to share her story of growing up in a church in the Sydney Anglican Diocese. When she was six, she nearly died in an accident at church. Soon after, her family moved to a new church led by a man we call Rev T. He called himself a counselor and claimed he could help people no doctor could. Bel describes a community shaped by control, fear, and the constant feeling of being watched. She shares how Rev T's counsel tore her family apart, how her sister was sent away from home and put through an exorcism, and how a private meeting in his office crossed lines no pastor should ever cross. Today, Bel is a wife, a mom, and a survivor. She shares her story in the hope of making the church a safer place.
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In this episode, our storyteller Jane shares her years inside Chi Alpha, the college campus ministry of the Assemblies of God (AG). What began as a warm, welcoming community slowly turned into something else. Jane describes the pressure to lead, the strict rules over her time, friendships, money, and even her food and health, and the spiritual control that kept her silent for years.
She walks us through her path from new student to leader, intern, and full staff missionary. She talks about the leadership "class" she paid to take, a retreat that changed her, the support raising system that left her broke, and the moment she finally found the strength to leave. Jane also speaks to the wider abuse that has come to light in Chi Alpha and the Assemblies of God, and why she chose to break her silence now.
Her story is a powerful look at high control religion, the savior complex on the mission field, and the long road to healing. Jane closes with a message of hope for current members, for survivors, and for the leaders she hopes will repent.
Chi Alpha Survivor Website http://xalionsden.com/
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Michelle shares her story of serving on staff at a church in Indiana, where subtle control, blurred pastoral authority, financial pressure, and spiritual manipulation slowly became clear over time. Her story names the confusion of being labeled, silenced, and pushed to question herself while navigating deep personal and family crisis. Through telling the truth, Michelle begins reclaiming the voice she was told to bury.
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Katie shares her story of growing up in a highly controlled religious environment, entering a young marriage shaped by strict gender roles, and spending years overseas as a missionary. Through the pressures of ministry, isolation, and motherhood, she began to recognize patterns of emotional and spiritual harm in her life. This episode follows her journey of unraveling those beliefs, finding her voice, and taking steps toward healing and freedom.
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Katherine shares her journey from a young missionary sent overseas to confronting the realities of faith, sacrifice, and survival. Raised in the church and driven by a deep sense of purpose, she and her husband moved to the Middle East in their early twenties, navigating cultural barriers, personal risk, and the complexities of mission work. After experiencing trauma, health crises, and the unraveling of expectations, Katherine reflects on identity, belief, and what it means to rebuild life after everything changes.
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Dominique shares her experience at The Austin Stone, where she became deeply involved in church life, missions, and leadership development as a young woman. In this episode, she reflects on the pressure, isolation, racial dynamics, and harmful church culture she encountered, and why telling the truth about those experiences matters.
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Alicia served for years as both a volunteer leader and staff member at a growing non-denominational church in Ohio. After becoming deeply involved in ministry and church leadership, she began noticing troubling patterns within the church’s culture and leadership structure. In this episode, Alicia courageously shares her story and reflects on the impact spiritual manipulation can have on individuals and communities.
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In this episode of Bodies Behind the Bus, Julia shares her story of becoming involved in an Acts 29 affiliated church plant that gradually shifted from hopeful beginnings into a culture of control, blurred boundaries, and spiritual harm. As she navigated marriage struggles, postpartum depression, and increasing pressure from church leadership, Julia began to see how manipulation, unmet promises, and power dynamics shaped her experience. Her story offers an honest look at how environments that appear vibrant and supportive can also cause deep personal and spiritual wounds.
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In this episode of Bodies Behind the Bus, we’re joined by Ciji, founder of Louder Than Silence, an organization providing free, trauma-specific care and community for survivors of sexual violence. Together, we explore what trauma-informed spaces actually look like, the difference between big-T and little-t trauma, and how harm often compounds in faith communities through misplaced authority, lack of boundaries, and spiritual bypassing.
This conversation centers on personal agency, the limits of pastoral care, and why learning to trust your body is essential to healing. A grounded, honest discussion for anyone navigating trauma, faith, and the search for truly safe community.
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In the final episode of this three-part series, Christy and Joshua come together to reflect on the shared impact of spiritual abuse and the long road toward truth and healing. Their conversation explores how harm reverberates through relationships, what accountability should look like, and what it means to move forward without erasing what happened. This closing chapter centers survivor clarity, connection, and the power of telling the full story.
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In Episode 2 of this three-part series, Christy shares her story of spiritual harm, silence, and survival within church systems that protected power over people. She reflects on the personal cost of being unheard, the impact on identity and faith, and the long road toward naming what happened. Christy’s testimony deepens the series by centering the lived experience of abuse and the courage it takes to speak after being dismissed.
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In Episode 1 of this three-part series, Joshua shares his story of spiritual harm, silencing, and the cost of telling the truth inside church systems built to protect power. His testimony traces the personal and relational fallout of abuse, the pressure to stay quiet, and the long road toward clarity and agency. This episode centers Joshua’s voice and sets the foundation for the series to come.
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In this episode of Bodies Behind the Bus, hosts Johnna and Jay sit down with author and pastor Caleb Campbell, author of Disarming Leviathan: Loving Your Christian Nationalist Neighbor. Together, they discuss faith, justice, and compassion in the face of political division, as well as their joint fundraiser supporting a DACA recipient fighting to stay with their family in the U.S. The conversation explores Christian nationalism, the role of the church in justice work, and how love and community can bring healing in divided times.
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In this episode of Just Calling, hosts Johnna and Jay continue their conversation with author and justice advocate Joash Thomas about his book The Justice of Jesus. Together, they unpack what it means to “decolonize our budgets” exploring how faith, money, and justice intersect within the modern church. The discussion challenges listeners to reimagine generosity, confront systems of privilege, and practice a faith rooted in tangible care for the marginalized.
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In this Just Calling episode, the hosts talk about empire, power, and how faith communities are being influenced by political systems. The conversation unpacks a recent government filing showing efforts to target U.S. churches through digital campaigns and explores what faithful resistance looks like today.
- FARA filing
- Across The Divide Podcast
- The Justice of Jesus
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In this episode, Cameron shares his powerful story of serving for sixteen years at one of Arizona’s largest megachurches, a place where faith, control, and fear collided. From witnessing the enforcement of “alignment” policies to experiencing personal retaliation and deep spiritual betrayal, Cameron opens up about what it meant to lose his community while finding his voice. His courage sheds light on how systems of power can twist spiritual language to maintain control and how healing begins with truth.
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Introducing Just Calling — In this first episode of the series, Bodies Behind the Bus sits down with author and advocate Rev. Joash Thomas to talk about his new book The Justice of Jesus. Together, we explore what it means to move from diagnosis to a hopeful prognosis for the church, diving into themes of justice, decolonization, and the everyday choices that shape faithful living.
www.joashpthomas.com
Pick Up "The Justice of Jesus" By Rev. Joash P. Thomas HERE
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In this episode of At the Bus Stop, we sit down with David and Margaret Bronson to uncover the dangers of Theonomy, Christian Reconstructionism, and the influence of leaders like Doug Wilson. The Bronsons share their personal experiences, explain how these teachings shape churches and politics, and discuss the lasting impact on survivors. They also highlight their work with Deconstruction Doulas and their efforts to build a Survivor Care Network that provides safety, healing, and hope for those leaving high-control religious environments. Their nonprofit is in the process of receiving 501(c)(3) status. Learn more and support their work at their GoFundMe page.
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In this episode of Bodies Behind the Bus, we sit down with Dr. Camden Morgante, a licensed psychologist, author, and speaker. Dr. Camden is the author of Recovering from Purity Culture, a book that helps individuals move beyond harmful teachings and begin the journey of healing. She shares insights from her work with clients, her own experiences, and her research into purity culture, offering a compassionate perspective on how people can begin to reconnect with themselves and their faith.
- Instagram - drcamden
- Website - drcamden.com
- Book - Recovering from Purity Culture
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https://julieroys.com/alleged-victim-worship-pastor-aaron-ivey-speaks-out-megachurchs-prior-statement/
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In this episode of the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast, Kenny shares his experience in the worship residency program at The Austin Stone. He recounts his initial passion for ministry, his transition from law school ambitions to church work, and the realities of support-raising, manual labor, and lack of mentorship during his time in the program. Kenny also reflects on his concerns with the church’s culture of celebrity and financial practices, the exploitation he witnessed, and the broader systemic failures he observed.
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James shares his experience with the Austin Stone church, including his early motivations for moving to Austin, the challenges he faced as a Mexican American in a predominantly white evangelical institution, and the barriers to leadership he encountered despite his qualifications. He discusses his experience raising support, internal cultural tensions, tokenism, health struggles tied to workplace stress, and the events that led to his departure from staff. The conversation highlights systemic issues within church leadership structures, particularly around race, power, and access.
*Correction: James references reading through MLK’s “I have a Dream” speech and wanted to clarify it was actually “Letter from Birmingham Jail”
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Kelley joins the podcast to share her experience as both a former member of the Austin Stone church and staff member of its affiliated nonprofit, For the City. She discusses the church’s culture, internal power dynamics, financial mismanagement, and the challenges of working within a complementarian system. Kelley reflects on her personal story of spiritual and emotional harm, organizational dysfunction, and the long-term impact of abusive structures masked by ministry language. Her story highlights broader patterns of spiritual and institutional abuse within the Austin Stone and similar evangelical networks.
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Ben joins the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast to share his experience at Austin Stone Church, a large SBC-affiliated church in Austin, Texas. He reflects on his decade-long involvement, including leadership roles and the creation of a ministry for LGBTQIA+ individuals. The conversation explores church culture, leadership dynamics, personal transformation, and the challenges of reconciling faith with identity. Ben also discusses his departure from the church and the emotional and relational costs of stepping away from evangelical expectations.
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In this episode of Bodies Behind the Bus, B shares her deeply personal story about the emotional toll of navigating immigration, identity, and faith. B recounts her years at the Austin Stone Church in Austin, Texas, where she joined a residency program to serve the local Latino community, only to face institutional racism, cultural insensitivity, and burnout. Her story highlights the disconnect between church rhetoric and practice, especially around issues of justice, immigration, and diversity, and offers a candid look at the emotional and spiritual cost of being marginalized in faith-based spaces.
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In this episode, Johnna & Jay introduce a new four-part series investigating The Austin Stone Church in Austin, Texas. Joined by Board member Emily, they discuss the church’s influential role in evangelical culture, its connections to Acts 29 and the SBC, and a troubling pattern of abuse, cover-ups, and systemic harm within its leadership and programs. The episode highlights the church’s public image versus its internal realities, and previews the survivor stories that will follow in the coming weeks.
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In this episode, Jay and Johnna debrief the 2025 Southern Baptist Convention annual meeting. They discuss why Johnna chose to attend alone, the deaths of two high-profile survivors—Jennifer Lyell and Duane Rollins—and the emotional and physical toll survivor advocacy has taken. They reflect on the SBC’s failure to follow through on promised reforms, the lack of accountability, and the ongoing harm caused by the institution’s refusal to meaningfully address abuse. The episode also explores the role of power, complicity, and silence within evangelical culture, as well as the broader implications for churches and Christian communities across the country.
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This episode examines the legacy of the Indian Removal Act of 1830 and draws a clear line from that policy to other moments of systemic injustice in American history—slavery, Japanese internment, discriminatory policing, and modern ICE raids. Through historical analysis and personal reflection, Jay challenges the narrative of American exceptionalism, exposes the role of the white church in reinforcing inequality, and confronts the systems that sustain white supremacy.
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Mollie Callahan, spiritual director and seminary student, joins to discuss the misuse of church discipline, its harmful impact, and how scripture has often been misapplied in these situations. She examines 1 Corinthians 5, Matthew 18, and stories like the woman caught in adultery, Zacchaeus, and the woman at the well to reframe church discipline through the lens of Jesus’ compassion, agency, and pursuit of the hurting.
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In this episode, Joyce shares her story of involvement in a PCA church in Florida and how her experience of marriage, faith, and community unfolded over more than a decade. She describes the early support her family received, her deep investment in church life, and how that shifted when she began raising concerns about her marriage. Joyce outlines the church’s response, her efforts to seek counseling, the process of pursuing divorce, and the consequences that followed, including church discipline. This episode examines how systems designed for accountability can fail those in crisis and how theological frameworks can impact the choices survivors feel they’re allowed to make. An update on Joyce’s situation is shared at the end of the episode.
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In this “At the Bus Stop” episode, Dr. Jared Stacy, a theologian and ethicist, joins Johnna and Jay to unpack the link between conspiracy theories, Christian nationalism, and the culture of abuse within white evangelical spaces. Drawing from his personal experience and academic research, Jared explores how storytelling shapes power, how conspiracy theories thrive in religious communities, and why many churches prioritize maintaining societal structures over faithful witness. The conversation also delves into the dehumanizing effects of disinformation, the role of the church in rural America, and what it means to follow Jesus in a moment of cultural and political disreality. Jared’s upcoming book offers language and insight for those wrestling with these complex dynamics.
Jared’s Substack: (19) The Homeward Dispatches | Jared Stacy | Substack
More from Jared: https://linktr.ee/jstacy
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Be sure to listen to episode 79 “Alicia’s Story” to hear about her experience with this same pastor.
Alicia’s Story: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/alicias-story-columbus-oh/id1601586078?i=1000663185044
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In this community conversation, the team from Bodies Behind the Bus responds to recent events involving The New Evangelicals and the release of a NetGrace investigation. They share their perspectives on accountability, integrity, and the responsibility of platforms in survivor spaces.
Allegations against Tim Whitaker and The New Evangelicals show how hierarchy transfers to progressive ministries | BAPTIST NEWS GLOBAL
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Buy the book here! Becoming the Pastor's Wife: How Marriage Replaced Ordination as a Woman's Path to Ministry by Beth Allison Barr, Hardcover | Barnes & Noble®
In this episode of The Bodies Behind the Bus Podcast, we welcome Beth Allison Barr, historian, professor, and author of The Making of Biblical Womanhood and her latest book, Becoming the Pastor’s Wife. Beth shares her insights on the historical roots of patriarchy in the church, the erasure of women in ministry, and the complex role of pastor’s wives in evangelical spaces. She unpacks the ways in which women have been silenced, how the Southern Baptist Convention’s structures perpetuate inequality, and why understanding history is crucial to moving forward.
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This episode of Bodies Behind the Bus features Margaret Bronson and Eric Isaac discussing the rise of Christian nationalism and its intersection with fundamentalist cult beliefs. Margaret shares insights from her experience in a high-control religious group, highlighting issues of female subjugation, the quiverfull movement, lack of education, and financial entrapment. Eric connects these experiences to broader patterns of spiritual abuse, coercion, and religious power structures. The conversation explores how extreme fundamentalist ideologies are becoming mainstream in America, their ties to white supremacy, and the political implications of these beliefs.
Margaret’s ig: https://www.instagram.com/margaretrosebronson?igsh=cW5nbHZ1ZnQ4dTU0
Margaret’s Website: https://www.deconstructiondoulas.com/
Eric’s thesis: https://digitalcommons.fiu.edu/etd/5151/
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Buy “The Spirit of Justice” https://bookshop.org/p/books/the-spirit-of-justice-stories-of-faith-race-and-resistance-jemar-tisby/20859536?ean=9780310144854
“I Am the Spirit of Justice” for kids ages 4-7 https://bookshop.org/p/books/i-am-the-spirit-of-justice-jemar-tisby/21291875?ean=9780310145561
“Stories of The Spirit of Justice” for kids ages 8-12+
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Additional Books by Jemar: https://jemartisby.com/books/
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Walker contact: walkerbbtb@gmail.com
Crissie contact: inspiredifferences@gmail.com
Link to Transcript from Concerned Congregant meeting (200 in attendance) - October 2021https://drive.google.com/file/d/1MUJ_ri2nuRP2vnAf6oU1iXIGljSVFHu3/view?usp=sharing
Congregant Feedback Survey (leadership stated they didn't think there were any concerns following the October meeting, and then refused to start the GRACE survey (which was ready) in December 2021 so congregants did their own survey) https://drive.google.com/file/d/1P1Qx8_kx9AFLBwUdTHzLJ_CMlzni6bM8/view?usp=sharing
NDA document -https://drive.google.com/file/d/11mn6mrHTZ4VVvEQAUHZnqwCgRd5IHlaS/view?usp=sharing
Find more information, and future stories here - https://chapelhillbiblechurch.org/
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NDA document -https://drive.google.com/file/d/11mn6mrHTZ4VVvEQAUHZnqwCgRd5IHlaS/view?usp=sharing
Find more information, and future stories here - https://chapelillbiblechurch.org/
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- Chapel Hill Bible Church: Pastor Eric McKiddie Is Gone and Pastor Jay Thomas Is Under Fire - thewartburgwatch.com
- Chapel Hill Bible Church: A Petition Signed by 78 and the Use of NDAs to Keep Things on the Down Low. What’s Going On With the Leaders? - thewartburgwatch.com
- Prominent North Carolina Church Embroiled in Controversy Following Alleged Abuse & 3 Investigations - julieroys.com
- Chapel Hill Bible Church leaders face allegations, investigations over abusive behavior - dailytarheel.com
- Chapel Hill Bible Church was multiracial before January 6 - washingtonpost.com
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In this episode, the Bodies Behind the Bus board gathers to discuss the heavy realities of navigating faith, justice, and advocacy in a fractured America. They explore the impact of systemic religious abuse, the emboldening of harmful rhetoric, and the personal toll of continuing to fight for marginalized communities. The episode is a candid look at grief, exhaustion, and the fire that drives change, while also honoring the voices of survivors and the commitment to amplifying their stories.
Listeners will hear reflections on what it means to live and work in integrity, how to support vulnerable communities, and the challenges of confronting systemic failures in both the church and society at large. This episode is a call to action, a space for lament, and a testament to resilience.
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Episode Resources:
- https://www.netgrace.org/resources/to-suffer-in-silence
- Male Survivor Stories - DAVID PITTMAN
- https://together-we-heal.org
- https://www.netgrace.org/independent-investigations
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Wartburg Watch: https://thewartburgwatch.com/2024/07/19/an-sbc-and-9-marks-church-edgefield-nashville-appeared-to-allow-a-violent-convicted-pedophile-michael-brake-considerable-freedom-in-the-church-for-years-could-there-be-other-victims/
Simon’s blog:
https://cheapgrace.substack.com/
Dave Pittman NetGRACE video:
https://youtu.be/26E4bRweK6E?feature=shared
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Ep Resources:
Mental Health/Psychology
- Parenting from the Inside Out by Dan Siegel and Mary Hartzell
- On Grief and Grieving by Elisabeth Kübler-Ross and David Kessler
- She Deserves Better by Sheila Wray Gregoire, Rebecca Gregoire Lindenbach, and Joanna Sawatsky
- Worthy by Elyse Fitzpatrick and Eric Schumacher (this is the book I couldn’t remember in the podcast!)
- The Body Keeps the Score by Bessell van der Kolk
- Redeeming Power by Diane Langberg
- Set Boundaries, Find Peace and Drama Free by Nedra Glover Tawwab (These also have workbooks sold separately)
Deconstruction/Reconstruction
- Jesus and John Wayne by Kristen Kobez du Mez
- The Making of Biblical Womanhood by Beth Allison Barr
- The Bible vs. Biblical Womanhood by Philip Payne
- Untwisting Scriptures series by Rebecca Davis
- Gaslighted by God by Tiffany Yecke Brooks
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What is Clergy Sexual Abuse? (Video)
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Contact Stephanie: s.nelsonbbtb@gmail.com
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Alicia’s Socials:
Twitter / X - @thepersistentdr
Threads - @thepersistentdr
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TikTok @achey90
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Episode show notes / source material
Roberts Book - Fire in the Whole: Embracing Our Righteous Anger with White Christianity and Reclaiming Our Wholeness
Past Relevent Episodes:
- The Village Church is SBC, Too
- ATBS “The Village Hired a Law Firm” w/ Robert Callahan
- ATBS “Ask More Questions” w/ Jay & Johnna
- ATBS “MinistrySafe & Austin Stone” w/ Christi Bragg
Statement from bodies behind the bus
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Past Relevent Episodes:
- The Village Church is SBC, Too
- ATBS “The Village Hired a Law Firm” w/ Robert Callahan
- ATBS “Ask More Questions” w/ Jay & Johnna
- ATBS “MinistrySafe & Austin Stone” w/ Christi Bragg
Statement from bodies behind the bus
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The Wartburg Watch Post - I Was 12 Years Old and Wearing My Pink Pajamas When Robert Morris, Now of Gateway Church, Began to Molest Me. The Alleged Abuse Lasted for 4 1/2 Years.The Roys Report Post - EXCLUSIVE: Former Staffers Expose Bullying, Abuse of Rick Warren’s Successor Andy WoodA World of Difference PodcastSupport the Show.
Johnna and Jay provide an update on the future of Sacred Wilderness & Bodies Behind the Bus.
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- Baptistland: A Memoir of Abuse, Betrayal, and Transformation
In this episode of the Bodies Behind the Bus podcast, hosts Jay and Johnna introduce us to the incredible journey of Christa Brown, an author, advocate, survivor, and lawyer with a profound story to tell. Through her newly released book, Baptist Land: A Memoir of Abuse, Betrayal, and Transformation, Christa offers an unflinchingly honest exploration of her life's ordeals and the path to recovery and empowerment. This episode delves deep into the themes of resilience in the face of betrayal, the complexities of family dynamics, and the courage it takes to break free from authoritative and abusive structures. Christa's narrative is a testament to the power of speaking out and finding one's voice amid adversity. Join us as we journey with Christa through her compelling story, the challenges and revelations of writing her memoir, and her ongoing advocacy for survivors everywhere.
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Do you know something about the Elizabeth Mackintosh case? If so, please reach out no matter how small it seems.
https://www.truebelieverpodcast.com
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- New Lawsuit filed against SBC
- Read Court Docs Here
- Amicus Brief Ruling
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- Louder Than Silence
- Mindwell Therapy
- Austin Stone statement
- Ministrysafe website
- Wade Mullen Twitter thread on MinistrySafe
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Tweets discussed in episode:
President of the SBC’s statement on the Amicus Brief:
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Articles referenced or read in preparation of this episode:
- https://www.texastribune.org/2023/03/27/houston-jared-woodfill-gop-paul-pressler-southern-baptist/
- https://baptistnews.com/article/pressler-patterson-and-trump-dancing-with-demagogues/
- https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/houston-texas/houston/article/More-men-accuse-former-Texas-judge-Baptist-12831892.php
- https://www.texastribune.org/2023/12/29/southern-baptist-convention-sexual-abuse-lawsuit-settlement/
- https://www.texastribune.org/2024/01/23/jared-woodfill-paul-pressler-southern-baptist-state-legislature/
- https://www.chron.com/news/investigations/article/Investigation-reveals-700-victims-of-Southern-13591612.php
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Julie Roys Articles on Fellowship Monrovia
Watch Fellowship Monrovia town hall
Letter of concerns written by staff and key leaders
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- Marissa Burt on Twitter
- Marissa on Instagram
- Marissa's website
- Kelsey Kramer McGinnis on Twitter
- Kelsey Kramer McGinnis on Instagram
- Kelsey's website
- Kelsey's recent CT article: "Christian Moms Feel More Pressure to Get It Right"
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Laila's recommended links and resources:
- Demand A Ceasefire In Gaza! | How to take action
- The danger of a single-story | Ted Talk
- How Israel Was Created | Video
- An Open Letter from Palestinian Christians to Western Church Leaders and Theologians
These are the things I’ve been praying and inviting others to pray with me.
- Praying for a miraculous de-escalation.
- A peaceful resolution.
- For the sanctity of human life to be prioritized, for value to be seen in all life.
- For the liberation of an oppressed people group (the Palestinians).
- For leaders to rise up who prioritize peace over power, peace over political schemes, and peace over religious agendas.
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Buy her book! Uncultured: A Memoir
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- Insta
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Mike and Mandie Letter
Contact Mandie: MRSwisconsin2.0@gmail.com
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Belong Church
Ian - Twitter & Threads @kindascottish
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INTERNATIONAL JUSTICE MISSION
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Join us in helping a survivor that Joyce is working with
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Lori’s Podcast (Listen to episodes 100-105 for their story)
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Action Items
ANYONE CAN DO THIS
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Email your state legislators about getting Clergy Sexual Abuse/ undue influence laws on the books for your state
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Call the SBC state director / Director of Missions for your state/association and ask them to talk with you about abuse reform
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Print out a copy of the BCMD pathways card and take it to your pastor or go to state convention and pass them out
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Call churches and ask local pastors to partner with you in encouraging other churches to seek implementation of safeguards
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Call churches and ask who their insurance policy is with. Contact insurance companies and begin to ask them to require abuse safeguards
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Print the pathways cards here!
TONS OF RESOURCES ON THIS SITE / www.bcmd.org/pathways
Link for org doing work to create laws about clergy sexual abuse:
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Suicide prevention Hotline: text or call 988
Michelle’s Website & Resource Links
Reclamation Collective
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Sheila’s Books
She Deserves Better: Raising Girls to Resist Toxic Teachings on Sex, Self, and Speaking Up
The Great Sex Rescue: The Lies You've Been Taught and How to Recover What God Intended
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Books:
- Lament for a Son
- A Monster Calls: Inspired by an idea from Siobhan Dowd
- Dune
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Petition to free Echo Church Employees from NDA’s :
Lori’s Podcast (Listen to episodes 100-105 for their story)
Links to articles and resources from Lori
BBTB w/ Robert Callahan talking NDA’s
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Podcast Resources
- “Two Views on Women in Ministry” - Counterpoints Series
- “How God Sees Women” Terran Williams
- “Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood” Aimee Byrd
- “The Making of Biblical Womanhood” Beth Allison Barr
- “Paul and Gender” Cynthia Westfall
- “Developing Female Leaders” Kadi Cole
- “Half the Church” Carolyn Custis James
- “One in Christ” Philip Payne
- “Slaves, Women, and Homosexuals” William Webb
- The Eden Podcast - Bruce Fleming
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Matt Chandler has signaled that he will be returning to ministry soon. Why is this concerning? What questions should we be asking? Jay & Johnna dive into their questions and concerns in this ep of At the Bus Stop.
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In this episode of At the Bus Stop, Attorney Robert Calahan breaks down what a law firm’s role is as an independent investigator in situations like what we see happening at The Village Church with Matt Chandler.
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Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation by Kristin Kobes Du Mez
The Trauma Tool Kit: Healing PTSD from the Inside Out by Susan Pease Banitt
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Clarification:Postscript from Benjamin: “After this episode aired, a friend reached out for some clarification of the details of events and helped me realize that only one of the counseling professors at Bethlehem asked me to collect stories from other students about their experience with Naselli. Both counseling professors were attempting to help me as I processed the situation, but they were nearly powerless to effect change since Brian Tabb was Naselli’s supervisor. The first counseling professor tried to help by having me collect stories. The second professor especially advocated for me and other students, bringing our concerns to the elders on multiple occasions in the hopes that both Naselli and Tabb would be held accountable.”
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- Redeeming Power: Understanding Authority and Abuse in the Church - LINK
- When Narcissism Comes to Church: Healing Your Community From Emotional and Spiritual Abuse - LINK
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