The Disciple Dilemma Podcast: Recent Episodes

Dennis Allen

We've been hacked! Western Christian discipleship has been infiltrated by an 1,800 year-old virus that's eroding our ability to do what Christians are supposed to do. Conversations with thought leaders of all types and stripes in business, the arts, the media, the academies about the dilemma.

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Is it possible you can be raised in a Christian home, come from five generations of pastors, be in seminary - and still not get what it means to be a disciple?

The founding pastor of @ReunionChurch in Dallas, TX, Richard Ellis joins us to talk about that!
Ably cohosted by Dr. Andrew Yates, Global Discipleship Coordinator, @DallasSeminary .

00:00 - 05:35 Intro
05:36 - 10:46 How it all started for Richard
10:47 - 15:30 Whadd'ya mean - that evangelism isn't discipleship?
15:31 - 18:44 Is the problem the Seminaries - or the Churches?
18:45 - 20:30 Discipleship and...Navy Fighter Pilots?
20:31 - 21:33 Getting personal - why discipleship matters
21:34 - 24:03 If we're disciples - why so much anxiousness?
24:04 - 26:03 Despair and Pastors
26:04 - 27:44 "I don't have time to do that"
27:45 - 30:03 Discipleship: The stuff that does not work in churches
30:04 - 31:05 How Christian culture "misses it" (Disciple making)
31:06 - 32:15 Has Church become a spiritual adult daycare?
32:16 - 33:38 A change of mind
33:39 - 41:16 Profound agape - what Jesus said defines disciples
41:17 - 44:37 Start the journey! Stop waiting on "better".
44:38 - 46:31 Wrap Up

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Dr. Andrew Yates with Dallas Theological Seminary is making disciple makers at DTS. How do they do that? What's different at DTS? Thoughtful insights in discipleship for Pastors, Seminaries, Higher Christian Educators and....disciples!

00:00 - 02:36 Opening

02:37 - 08:21 Meet Andrew Yates and DTS Disciple Making

08:22 - 09:28 SURELY the Seminaries are OK, Yes?

09:29 - 12:41 What's Going on in Most Churches?

12:42 - 16:39 What Leaders Must Do

16:40 - 20:18 How Much is Enough (To be a good disciple)?

20:19 - 21:51 Isn't Evangelism the Same Thing as Disciple Making?

21:52 - 23:10 Unhealthy Growth in Churches. Really?

23:11 - 27:23 Pastors Can't Really Disciple 100 People (Or even a dozen)

27:24 - 30:04 Encouragement for Pastors

30:05 - 32:47 The Real Metric of a Church (NOT the ones you use now)

32:48 - 38:31 Challenges for Christian Higher Education

38:32 - 41:36 Contact Andrew / Wrapup

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What does the NFL, College Football and Coaching have to do with discipleship? Collegiate Quarterback, SEC Football Coach and now Pastor Preston Conder joins Dennis along with the Founding Chaplain in the NFL and the NBA - Dr. John Tolson to answer all that!

00:00 - 03:48 Intro

03:49 - 05:57 "Doing" Church ISN'T Discipleship

05:58 - 11:15 Evangelism? Or Disciple Making?

11:16 - 14:31 Secrets of a Disciple-Maker

14:32 - 16:30 Disciples Serving in the Lives of People Around Them

16:31 - 18:05 The Crux of It - Making Disciples

18:06 - 19:36 Is Gen Z Discipling Different?

19:37 - 21:33 Wrap Up

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Marko Romanjik, from Osijek, Croatia cohosts with Dennis to interview Cru's Denis Ribic - in Portugal.

Is making disciples different in Europe than in America? Is the West in a unique struggle to restore discipling? How do disciples deal with tough questions?

00:00 - 06:52 Intro
06:53 - 08:55 Denis' "Rap Sheet"
08:56 - 12:28 Explain "Disciple"
12:29 - 15:30 Is the West The Only One Off in Discipleship?
15:31 - 19:08 How Does Europe "Do" Discipling?
19:09 - 23:26 Is Christianity Getting Better (Or Worse) in Discipleship?
23:27 - 27:57 I'm Not Trained to Disciple! Am I Off The Hook?
27:58 - 31:11 How to Answer Tough Questions
31:12 - 32:58 What to do With Combative Questioners?
32:59 - 34:53 The Power of Understanding the Person
32:54 - 39:09 Discipling Generation Z (Is Different)
39:10 - 41:26 Advice for New Disciples
41:27 - 47:54 Wrap Up

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Writer, Speaker, Scientist and Theologian - Dr. Ken Boa - The President of Reflections Ministries speaks into the concept of beauty - its relationship to science and to the disciple's understanding of God.

00:00 - 02:49 Introductions
02:50 - 04:39 Transcendental beauty - what is that?
04:40 - 06:12 How can science and beauty cohabit in reasoning?
06:13 - 08:05 How can discipleship, beauty and science co-exist?
08:06 - 09:37 How is discipleship in the West going?
09:38 - 14:32 "Vo-Tech" discipling
14:33 - 17:06 Must effective disciples be intellectuals?
17:07 - 18:53 Evangelism makes Disciples : Disciples make Evangelism
18:54 - 20:55 What do you want from me?
20:56 - 23:26 Wrap Up

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WITHING? What's Withing?

Disciple maker and podcaster "Punky" Tolson joins us from Dallas - along with Faith Radio's Carmen LaBerge. Two powerful women talking powerful disciple making and disciple development ideas...."WITHING". Straight out of the Bible - beautifully delivered by these two female followers of faith - of Jesus of Nazareth.

00:00 - 03:27 Intro

03:28 - 09:10 "Trad" Wives?

09:11 - 12:53 WITHING

12:54 - 18:00 "Trad" Life - Modern Disciples & Crickets

18:01 - 21:02 Education -versus- Discipling

21:03 - 23:03 A Disciple's Identity -versus- Activities

23:04 - 27:24 "Don't Leave Me Behind" Women and Church Discipleship

27:25 - 35:04 Practical Next Steps in WITHING

35:04 - 38:06 Wrap Up

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A real life example of someone saying to someone else "Come with me." Dr. Joe Debeljuh - on Mission in Zagreb, Croatia recounts his experience being discipled through basketball, by Pastor Rick Swing. And Rick talks about his way of approaching men. Real life discipleship!

00:00 - 04:36 Opening

04:37 - 06:58 "Come with me!"

06:59 - 08:11 Only Pastors can disciple. (???!!!)

08:12 - 09:36 But what if they ask me hard questions?

09:37 - 13:24 How questions become relationships

13:25 - 19:47 The Road Less Travelled: Taking Disciples "Out There"

19:48 - 21:30 The Discipling Barrier called "Churchianity"

21:31 - 25:24 Getting in someone's head

25:25 - 27:12 Wrap Up

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Dr. John Tolson invited Dennis to address discipleship and The Disciple Dilemma the "Gathering of Men" in Dallas, Texas.

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Dr. JD Payne - a Pastor, Planter of churches, Podcaster, Professor - and the author of SIXTEEN books (!) joins Dennis from Samford University to scrimmage the duty of Seminaries in the West.

Is the Mission of a Seminary to drive facts into brains - or to "make" theologically-informed disciples? A wide ranging and interesting episode!

00:00 - 03:07 Introduction
03:08 - 08:57 Discipleship & Seminary....Same? Different?
08:58 - 11:13 Pastoral "Hegemony"
11:14 - 13:55 Clericalism (Let the Pros Handle That)
13:56 - 20:10 Modern Disciples - How Should We Then Live?
20:11 - 21:45 Are Seminaries responsible for Discipling?
21:46 - 25:18 JD's SIXTEEN Books! (Two of Them)
25:19 - 27:48 "Berthie Holler" (JD's Story)
27:49 - 29:53 A Better Definition for Evangelize....
29:54 - 33:58 The Mission of Professors
33:59 - 37:03 The Mission of a Seminary
37:04 - 38:53 "The Pastor Does Everything" Changing Expectations
38:54 - 41:18 JD's Closing Advice for Pastors
41:19 - 42:18 Wrap Up

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Dr. Joe Debeljuh joins Dennis to interview Darin White: a Collegiate National Championship Soccer Coach and today, the Professor of Sports Analytics at Samford University. How does coaching inform us about discipleship?

00:00 - 03:22 Introduction
03:23 - 06:28 Coaching & Discipleship
06:29 - 09:15 Pay It Forward
09:16 - 11:50 Western Discipleship
11:51 - 15:23 Sketchy Definitions of Discipleship
15:24 - 20:15 Discipleship is More Than Sharing the Gospel
20:16 - 23:40 Joe's Story
23:41 - 25:25 Darin's Story
25:26 - 29:13 Spiritual Reflexes
29:14 - 30:42 Not My Job
30:43 - 32:27 "Moneyball"
32:28 - 34:38 Big Names / Big Data
34:39 - 36:12 AI & Sports
36:13 - 39:38 Contact Darin / Wrapup

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Pastor Oz Muwaniri, in Ireland, and Dr. Joe Debeljuh from Zagreb Croatia, join Dennis to talk about how challenges in international discipling is, actually, not so different from American discipling issues.

00:00 - 01:54 Intro
01:55 - 03:29 What is a Discipler?
03:30 - 04:15 Christian or Disciple...Difference?
04:16 - 06:33 When Did Church Member Come to Mean Disciple?
06:34 - 07:48 Irish Protestants & Catholics: How's That Going?
07:49 - 09:06 One Local Church; Many Tribes & Tongues
09:07 - 10:44 "I Need More Time!"
10:45 - 12:15 Is Discipleship Evangelism?
12:16 - 13:35 Is a Disciple a Street Preacher (Evangelist)?
13:36 - 19:19 How Do I Disciple? (Isn't it evangelism?)
19:20 - 21:14 What Does Discipleship Look Like?
21:15 - 22:07 "I can't do that !"
22:08 - 24:15 Share What You DO Know
24:16 - 32:51 Who Is responsible To Initiate Discipling?
32:52 - 36:53 Pastor Oz's Story
36:54 - 37:40 Wrap Up

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How should we then think? How ought a disciple grapple with the avalanches and tsunamis of opinions gushing forth ?

Veteran journalist and the President of Ministry Watch - Warren Cole Smith joins us to parse the risks and rewards of disciples who can think critically, build relationships and pursue Christ as we are called to.

00:00 - 05:27 Overview
05:28 - 09:17 Social Headlines & Christian Frets
09:18 - 12:16 Such a Thing as "Face Value"?
12:17 - 17:35 "Christian" Journalism
17:36 - 20:23 Of Strawmen & Reasoning
20:24 - 23:10 Who Speaks Truth?
23:11 - 29:20 Friendship, Followership...and David French
29:21 - 37:22 That Line Between Conviction and Pharisaical
37:23 - 41:29 Peace & Unity...
41:30 - 43:40 Ted Lasso
43:41 - 48:06 Discernment as a Disciple
48:07 - 49:30 Do Not Fear
49:31 - 51:43 Contact Warren / Wrapup

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How can you possibly combine fear and ice cream with discipleship? Ricky Dickson has a new book about that! "One Scoop at a Time" has just premiered and describes the adventures and challenges of disciples in everyday business life.

00:00 - 02:05 Opening
02:06 - 02:54 Commencement Speech
02:55 - 05:10 "One Scoop at a Time" - the new book
05:11 - 06:32 Workforce Challenges for a CEO
06:33 - 11:20 Faith....and Fear
11:21 - 15:50 Can You Train Away Fear?
15:51 - 17:20 CEO's and Discipleship
17:21 - 19:08 Contact Ricky

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Matt McCollum, Princeton-educated "PK" (Pastor's Kid), Husband, Dad and the Senior Pastor of Trinity Presbyterian in Fairhope, Alabama joins Dennis & Raymond to talk about leadership and changing church culture.

00:00 - 05:39 Introduction
05:40 - 08:00 What's It Like These Days as a Pastor?
08:01 - 12:10 "Five-Year Crisis"
12:11 - 13:27 Sticking With It Has Advantages
13:28 - 14:49 Seeing The Dilemma
14:50 - 16:57 Not At MY Church!
16:58 - 20:08 Dilemma Heartburn
20:09 - 23:51 Let's Shut This Conversation Down
23:52 - 26:19 The Myth of the Omnipresent Pastor
26:20 - 30:40 Church Isn't The 4th Member of the Trinity?
30:41 - 35:09 How Is Discipleship Going at Your Church?
35:10 - 40:15 The Long March of Culture Change
40:16 - 43:20 How Leadership Grapples With Culture Change
43:21 - 45:25 "Land The Plane Safely" Leadership
45:26 - 46:17 Wrap Up

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Justin Gravitt, Ohio Area Director for Navigator Church Ministries joins Dennis & Raymond to talk about Justin's new book "The Foundation of a Disciple Making Culture"

00:00 - 04:45 Chap 1: Introduction
04:46 - 09:59 Chap 2: Who's Side Are You On?
10:00 - 12:55 Chap 3: Does Change Come From the Individual, or the Top?
12:56 - 15:56 Chap 4: Secrets of the Universe? Culture Change
15:57 - 19:52 Chap 5: Can Leaders Delegate Discipleship?
19:53 - 21:38 Chap 6: Words Matter
21:39 - 22:43 Chap 7: Change Team Struggles
22:44 - 26:25 Chap 8: Justin's Book - The "Elevator Speech"
26:26 - 30:48 Chap 9: Read The Book - Fly The Plane?
30:49 - 33:15 Chap 10: Define "Disciplemaker"
33:16 - 35:55 Chap 11: Disciples Who Make Disciples Who Make Disciples
35:56 - 37:04 Chap 12: What Comes First? Institutional Change -or- Individual?
37:05 - 39:10 Chap 13: What Do You Mean by the Term "Mission"?
39:11 - 41:00 Chap 14: Great Commission...Great Disconnection?
41:01 - 43:20 Chap 15 Metrics!
43:21 - 44:09 Chap 16: Mustard Seed Discipling
44:10 - 46:55 Chap 17: Perils in Change
46:56 - 49:18 Chap 18 Contact Justin / Wrap Up

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Author, Professor, Ministry Entrepreneur, Children's Foster Philanthropist and Disciple - Dr. Krish Kandiah joins Dennis and @carmenfowlerlaberge6134 to talk about...
- Doctor Who & Disciples
- Constipated sponges
- Discipleship sausage factories
and serving the Most-High God with all our hearts, minds and strength.

Hilarious and thought provoking!

00:00 - 01:53 Chap 1 Introduction
01:54 - 03:56 Chap 2 "Doctor Who" and Discipleship
03:57 - 06:55 Chap 3 Whack-Job Christianity
06:56 - 12:39 Chap 4 Christian Tribalisms
12:40 - 16:24 Chap 5 Carmen Talks About Gaps in Discipleship
16:25 - 21:25 Chap 6 "You Guys Need to Preach Better!"
21:26 - 22:18 Chap 7 Mid-Show
22:19 - 23:56 Chap 8 The Cost of Discipleship
23:57 - 33:49 Chap 9 Institutions, Discipleship and the "RNLI"
33:50 - 36:44 Chap 10 So, Now What?
36:45 - 38:19 Chap 11 Wrap Up

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Former Marine Combat Officer and Iraq War Vet, Pastor, (+ PK) Jeremy Stalnecker, CEO of "Mighty Oaks Foundation" and host of the "March or Die" podcast talks about discipleship, trauma and our Mission!

00:00 - 01:50 Chap 1: Opener
01:51 - 09:42 Chap 2: Jeremy's Story
09:43 - 11:10 Chap 3: Do We Understand Trauma?
11:11 - 16:06 Chap 4: Why Some Pastors Deny PTSD
16:07 - 20:16 Chap 5: Is Trauma a "God Vacuum"?
20:17 - 24:46 Chap 6: How Should Disciples Minister into Trauma?
24:47 - 30:55 Chap 7: Jeremy's Book "Leadership By Design"
30:56 - 34:16 Chap 8: Leadership in Churches
34:17 - 41:24 Chap 9: Stress on Leaders
41:25 - 42:29 Chap 10: 2AM Waffle House Friends
42:30 - 47:10 Chap 11: The Mighty Oaks Foundation
47:11 - 50:16 Chap 12: Discipling is Therapy for Trauma
50:17 - 51:24 Chap 13: Contact Jeremy Stalnecker

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From the Team that brought you "Fireproof" and "The War Room"...The Kendrick Brothers have rendered a beautiful work on the crux of discipleship:
A scoffer invited - to "come check this out" by a Christ follower.

"The Forge" is Biblically faithful artistry, and a delight to experience. Have you ever been discipled? See this film!

00:00 - 03:19 Chap 1 Introduction & Trailer
03:20 - 07:02 Chap 2 Why do a discipleship movie?
07:03 - 12:39 Chap 3 Isn't discipleship the Pastor's job?
12:40 - 14:36 Chap 4 Who disciples the Pastors (Not, for 80% of them)
14:37 - 19:11 Chap 5 Discipling Non-Believers...Yep.
19:12 - 24:30 Chap 6 How the movie filming affected the crew
24:31 - 27:34 Chap 7 How the movie affected the actors
27:35 - 29:41 Chap 8 Horror movie? Going out into real life as disciples
29:42 - 31:10 Chap 9 Debut of The Forge, August 23, 2024
31:11 - 32:45 Chap 10 Wrap Up

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Dennis is live at Reston Presbyterian Church to talk about false gods, discipleship and the big mystery that changed a nation. How did so many false gods infest the Temple of Jerusalem? Why did a King ditch his father and grandfather's religionS?? What was the society changing secret?

A Lost Art: "Follow Me"
2 Chronicles 34.1-8 and 14-19 (Parallel Passages: 2 Kings 22 & 23)

Context & Background: Deuteronomy 17.19-20; 1 Kings 13.1-2; 2 Kings 21; Jeremiah 1 & 2; Nehemiah; Matthew 16.24; Matthew 28.19; Mark 1.16; Luke 9.23; John 8.31; John 13.35; 2 Corinthians 5.17

Overview:
1) How did the false gods of Chemosh, Ashtoreth, Molech, Baal and Milcomm come to set up shop inside the Temple of Jerusalem?
2) What message from God did Hilkiah, a mentor/discipler of King Josiah discover when he started Temple renovations?
3) Could it be that those gods are still among us? And the import of that message lost again?

Judah’s “follow” of God had been "hacked" - malware of the gods

Why the emphasis on “Follow Me”? Because it is your Mission

What caused Josiah to NOT be like his father Amon?
Mentors - Hilkiah; Shaphan; (Possibly his grandfather Mannaseh?)

Wingmen - Abdon, Ahikam and Jeremiah

Josiah credited with “doing right”, but no clue how far off base he is!

Then it happens: 2 Chronicles 34:14 – 19
The theme of Deuteronomy? “Follow Me, Like This”
Diagnostic “Follow Me” questions:
1. Have you ever been personally discipled? (Not meaning a class/small group)
2. Do you have a wingman/woman? (Not your spouse)
3. Could you mentor someone in “Follow Me” if asked?

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Killer apps? Spiritual Body Building?

She loves Bonanza Westerns. She's a Pastor, Professor, Author, Podcaster and most of all, she is a very powerful disciplemaker. Dr. Barbara Brehon, the Founder of Favored By The Father Ministries joins us on The Disciple Dilemma to talk some very Biblical, powerful discipleship stuff!

In Part One Dr. Brehon explains a lot - bring a notebook! Or better yet, read her books, which we talk about on the podcast:

00:00 - 02:29 Chapter 1 - Soundbites
02:30 - 03:09 Chapter 2 - Welcome Dr. Brehon
03:10 - 07:42 Chapter 3 - Grading Discipleship?
07:43 - 20:07 Chapter 4 - Books: A Discipleship Trilogy
20:08 - 22:03 Chapter 5 - Killer Apps & Body Building
22:04 - 23:18 Chapter 6 - My Identity as a Disciple
23:19 - 24:14 Chapter 7 - Contact Dr. Brehon & Wrapup

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Has fear replaced God as the animating force of many Evangelicals in the West? How should a disciple make sense of the partisanship, paranoia and turmoil in our politics, society and increasingly, in our churches? And what if that anger came at you and your family for what you've said and what you believe - coming at you from BOTH the Left and the Right? New York Times columnist and Constitutional litigator David French joins Dennis, Carmen Laberge and Raymond Monroe to wrestle with all that on The Disciple Dilemma.

00:00 - 02:29 Chapter 1: Opening
02:30 - 08:24 Chapter 2: Fear and Cancel Culture
08:25 - 16:00 Chapter 3: Common Confession but Disunity
16:01 - 23:57 Chapter 4: Channeling Theology (Do Christians go on THAT Channel?)
23:58 - 28:10 Chapter 5: Wrapup

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Commercial Real Estate Executive David Atchison is a disciple on a Mission, an Author and Ministry Founder. You might even say he's on a Higher Call, which is the title of his book and ministry about disciples, in the workplace.

00:00 - 04:05 Chapter 1: Intro
04:06 - 07:42 Chapter 2: Business Nerdout
07:43 - 09:59 Chapter 3: Higher Call, the book
10:00 - 12:54 Chapter 4: A theology of business?
12:55 - 18:10 Chapter 5: The Higher Call of Discipleship
18:11 - 21:43 Chapter 6: Relationships and Work
21:44 - 26:08 Chapter 7: David's lesson Learned
26:09 - 30:52 Chapter 8 Contact David & Outro

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Apologetics Inc speaker Alycia Wood talks about how disciples are to relate, care for and offer the reason for the hope Christ gave all of us. Alycia's work for and with parents is especially useful in the latter part of our podcast:

00:00 - 03:48 Introduction
03:49 - 04:57 About Apologetics Inc
04:58 - 06:58 Different Identities & Worldviews, In Relationships
06:59 - 08:23 Getting to Know You
08:24 - 13:06 Whaddya Want From Me?
13:07 - 19:36 Fixing Moral Stuff First (Bad Idea)
19:37 - 26:04 Especially for Parents
26:05 - 29:46 Contact Alycia

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Disciple, Husband, Dad, New York times Columnist and Constitutional lawyer David French joins Dennis, Carmen LaBerge and Raymond Monroe to talk about the underlying fear and animosity crippling discipleship in churches.

00:00 - 03:05 Intro
03:06 - 08:05 How It All Began
08:06 - 10:15 Not Everyone, But
10:16 - 15:20 The PCA "Cancel"

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Sheluyang "Yang" Peng is a fourth generation "PK" (Pastors' kid) living in Brooklyn. He's been published in top Christian and secular thought periodicals (Comment, Unherd, Tablet, American Affairs, Plough). Oh, and he's in Seminary, a Chinese church translator and writing books. (Wow)

Today he's talking about discipleship, with Dennis and Carmen on The Disciple Dilemma.

00:00 - 01:27 Chapter 1: Opening
01:28 - 05:00 Chapter 2: Yang's Story
05:01 - 13:11 Chapter 3: Writing and Thinking
13:12 - 17:18 Chapter 4: The Church in China
17:19 - 23:07 Chapter 5: An Asian Lens on Western Christianity
23:08 - 28:30 Chapter 6: Transracialism and TransChristianism
28:31 - 31:35 Chapter 7: Identity & The Imago Dei
31:36 - 35:42 Chapter 8: Culture...Today
35:43 - 37:54 Chapter 9: Why Yang Isn't a None/Done
37:55 - 40:40 Chapter 10: "Metho-Bap-Tyrian"
40:41 - 43:37 Chapter 11: Nietzsche?
43:38 - 47:14 Chapter 12: Disciple: Who Are You?
47:15 - 48:40 Chapter 13: Wrapup

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Is discipleship a problem of defective knowledge? Poor preaching? Lazy Christians? Or have we been hacked? The Crosspolitic Gang talks to Dennis Allen from Moscow, Idaho.

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Author, Activist and the Executive Director of The Center for Faith & Justice, Reverend Jim Wallis, in his office at Georgetown University talks deeply about discipleship and our lives as servants of Christ.

00:00 - 00:50 Chapter 1 : Opening
00:51 - 09:23 Chapter 2 : Economics and Theology
09:24 - 10:55 Chapter 3 : Male, Pale, Straight, Stale!
10:56 - 16:49 Chapter 4 : Jim's Story, Teenager to Today
16:50 - 19:21 Chapter 5 : The False White Gospel
19:22 - 25:33 Chapter 6 : Proximity
25:34 - 27:39 Chapter 7 : PUBLIC Discipleship
27:40 - 29:59 Chapter 8 : A False Gospel: How Christians Got "There"
30:00 - 32:24 Chapter 9 : Power
32:25 - 35:40 Chapter 10: Writing This Book....Anger?
35:41 - 42:02 Chapter 11: Missing: Public Discipleship
42:03 - 46:58 Chapter 12: Who's Side Are You On?
46:59 - 50:16 Chapter 13: The "Why"
50:17 - 52:07 Chapter 14: What Do Nationalists Want?
52:08 - 52:53 Chapter 15: Wrap up

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The Publisher and Owner of "Heat Treat Today" Magazine, Doug Glenn, joins Raymond and Dennis to discuss the life of a disciple in the regular workforce. What's that like and how to do it?

00:00 - 03:12: Introduction
03:13 - 06:49: People, Community & Disciples
06:50 - 10:40: Church Silos Stifling Disciples
10:41 - 20:55: Discipleship, Work, The Mission
20:56 - 23:36: Closing

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Dennis presents impacts and the deconstruction of The Disciple Dilemma on Western Christianity's Seminaries and Universities at The Bible Institute of Zagreb's International Discipleship Conference, April, 2024

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Writer, Author and Poet Aryana Petrosky joins us to talk about how silence is a missing essential of disciples. And the path toward unity in Christ and healing the rifts goes right through that silence!

00:00 - 02:44 Introduction
02:45 - 04:21 What is "The After Party"?
04:22 - 06:15 A Disciple as a Writer and Poet
06:16 - 09:58 Silence as Practice and History
09:59 - 15:33 The Rarity of Silence
15:34 - 20:00 What is Silence, Exactly?
20:01 - 28:30 Millennials, Anglicans and Ex-vangelicals
28:31 - 32:41 Advice to Males/Pales/Straight/Stales
32:42 - 34:22 Wrap-up

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Former Megachurch Pastor Matt Davis, now the President of Pastoral Transitions joins us to lay out the battles and challenges Pastors face every week - and how leadership ought to regard that!

00:00 - 01:52 Chapter 1: Meet Matt Davis
01:53 - 04:16 Chapter 2: Real Life, of a Pastor
04:17 - 06:27 Chapter 3: The Enigma of Being "Liked"
06:28 - 10:10 Chapter 4: Counsel for Young Pastors
10:11 - 11:33 Chapter 5: "Metrics" among other insanities
11:34 - 15:20 Chapter 6: The True Mission for Pastors
15:21 - 17:48 Chapter 7: Leadership's Fixation Traps
17:49 - 24:50 Chapter 8: Counsel for Church Leadership
24:51 - 30:00 Chapter 9: How to contact Pastoral Transitions

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Dr. Doug Fagerstrom has been a CEO, a Seminary President, a Pastor, Author and now is the Senior Fellow for Discipleship at The CEO Forum. He's got some terrific insight into building "succession" and leadership around discipleship!

00:00 - 02:31 Chapter 1: Opening
02:32 - 05:41 Chapter 2: Credentials and Counsel
05:42 - 06:54 Chapter 3: The Ethos of Leaders
06:55 - 10:17 Chapter 4: Mentorship in the Local Church
10:18 - 12:02 Chapter 5: "Modern" Western Discipleship
12:03 - 14:28 Chapter 6: The CEO Forum & Discipling
14:29 - 19:06 Chapter 7: My "Real" Identity
19:07 - 29:43 Chapter 8: The Core of Discipleship
29:44 - 32:39 Chapter 9: Wrap Up

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How can a disciple help max-perform an organization? Well, it begins with the disciple! Dr. Greg Campbell, formerly the #2 Law Enforcement Office for the United States talks about his new book: "Developing You, Eleven Transformative Practices of Self-Development & Emotional Intelligence"

00:00 - 00:48 Chapter 1: Opening Clips
00:49 - 08:22 Chapter 2: Introduce Dr. Campbell
08:23 - 10:29 Chapter 3: The book "Developing You"
10:30 - 12:37 Chapter 4: Making all this stuff practical
12:38 - 17:15 Chapter 5: Emotional Intelligence
17:16 - 21:07 Chapter 6: D.E.V.E.L.O.P.M.E.N.T. the acronym
21:08 - 27:10 Chapter 7: Developing a disciple
27:11 - 31:44 Chapter 8: Getting to understanding
31:45 - 35:03 Chapter 9: The dirt on Greg Campbell...
35:06 - 37:30 Chapter 10: Contact Greg / Conclusion

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When Jesus told us to go make disciples to all nationalities, some people decided to live it out by getting up and going! Dr. Josip "Joe" Debeljuh joins us to talk about being a disciple who happens to have Missionary as his day job. Joe understands the dilemma facing the Church in discipling, and he and his wife Kelly are doing something about that.

00:00 - 03:40 Chapter 1: Meet Joe
03:41 - 06:39 Chapter 2: Is the dilemma in discipling just U.S.? Or is it Global?
06:40 - 09:34 Chapter 3: "Identity" and Discipleship
09:35 - 14:43 Chapter 4: Making Disciples. How do you do that?
14:44 - 19:30 Chapter 5: "Hit Rates" in Discipling?
19:31 - 23:26 Chapter 6: How Joe was discipled
23:27 - 30:50 Chapter 7: Being a Disciple & Missionary
30:51 - 32:52 Chapter 8: How to reach Joe

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NBA and NFL Sports Chaplain Dr. John Tolson joins us to talk about the core of it all: Making Disciples Who Make Disciples.

Dr. Tolson is the Founder of The Tolson Group, the Author of "The 4 Priorities" a former Pastor, a Husband, Father/Grandfather and an Alumnus of L'Abrie under Dr. Francis Schaeffer.

(Note from Dennis: "If I could drive two hours and get to this guy I would hang out at his feet and listen!")

Bring a notepad to this podcast - this one is truly wonderful!
00:00 - 03:57 Chapter 1: Opening/Introduction
03:58 - 06:09 Chapter 2: Mass Produced Disciples (Not)
06:10 - 07:39 Chapter 3: The 4 Priorities
07:40 - 09:56 Chapter 4: You Need a Wingman!
09:57 - 13:30 Chapter 5: How Many Pastors Get Discipled?
13:31 - 16:30 Chapter 6: Should Pastors Risk Transparency in Their Church?
16:31 - 19:02 Chapter 7: Why So Many Ex-vangelicals?
19:03 - 22:43 Chapter 8: Discipleship - Starts With Leadership
22:44 - 24:55 Chapter 9: Is This Discipleship - or Evangelism?
24:56 - 26:34 Chapter 10: What We Dump Onto Pastors
26:35 - 30:30 Chapter 11: Chruch Hopping / Shopping
30:31 - 33:28 Chapter 12: How To Start Discipling
33:29 - 37:32 Chapter 13: I've Never Been Discipled (And I'm The Pastor)
37:33 - 40:20 Chapter 14: Culturally Toxic to Discipleship
40:21 - 42:43 Chapter 15: Contact Dr. Tolson

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The Founder of XP Gathering Network, Kevin Bugingo joins Raymond and Dennis to talk about the personal, strategic and discipling challenges facing Executive Pastors specifically, and Pastors in general. Kevin is also an Executive Pastor at Discovery Church in Moreno Valley, CA - and a business executive and husband, parent and podcaster!

00:00 - 02:29 Chapter 1: Introduction
02:30 - 13:30 Chapter 2: Life as an "XP" (Executive Pastor)
13:31 - 16:40 Chapter 3: XP's and Church Community
16:41 - 23:03 Chapter 4: Racism and Disciples - How Are We Doing?
23:04 - 27:29 Chapter 5: Key Strategic Challenges for Churches
27:30 - 30:34 Chapter 6: Techno-Disciples?
30:35 - 34:01 Chapter 7: Humanness & Disciples
34:02 - 38:42 Chapter 8: Metrics in Discipleship?
38:43 - 42:40 Chapter 9: Kevin gets the last word
42:41 - 44:13 Conclusion

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Pastor Thomas Ryden, with Apostles Anglican Church joins Dennis and Raymond to talk about discipleship, millennials and the lives of pastors today:
00:00-02:28 Chapter 1: Introduction (And Star Wars)
02:29-04:16 Chapter 2: Discipled in high school and college
04:17-05:25 Chapter 3: College friends now ex-vangelicals
05:26-09:09 Chapter 4: Seminary graduates leaving their pastoral roles
09:10-13:51 Chapter 5: Disciples - doing life together
13:52-15:44 Chapter 6: Discipleship at Apostles Anglican
15:45-22:10 Chapter 7: Liturgical sacraments and disciples
22:11-23:25 Chapter 8: Contacting Thomas & Conclusion

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The Founder of XP Gathering, Kevin Bugingo joins Raymond and Dennis to talk about the personal, strategic and discipling challenges facing Executive Pastors specifically, and Pastors in general. Kevin is also an Executive Pastor at Discovery Church in Moreno Valley, CA - and a business executive and husband, parent and podcaster!

00:00 - 02:29 Chapter 1: Introduction
02:30 - 13:30 Chapter 2: Life as an "XP" (Executive Pastor)
13:31 - 16:40 Chapter 3: XP's and Church Community
16:41 - 23:03 Chapter 4: Racism and Disciples - How Are We Doing?
23:04 - 27:29 Chapter 5: Key Strategic Challenges for Churches
27:30 - 30:34 Chapter 6: Techno-Disciples?
30:35 - 34:01 Chapter 7: Humanness & Disciples
34:02 - 38:42 Chapter 8: Metrics in Discipleship?
38:43 - 42:40 Chapter 9: Kevin gets the last word
42:41 - 44:13 Conclusion

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Dr. Dave Benson, of the London Institute for Contemporary Christianity returns for Part 2 of "Whole Life Discipleship". Dave, along with co-host Carmen LaBerge join Dennis to talk about discipling leadership's roles, the state of discipleship in the West, and how to change the "game" of disciple-making.
00:00 - 01:18 Chapter 1: Introduction
01:19 - 06:46 Chapter 2: Leadership's role in discipling
06:47 - 09:03 Chapter 3: Is discipleship in the West OK?
09:04 - 10:49 Chapter 4: Two Clergy & A Capitalist Walk Into a Podcast
10:50 - 17:47 Chapter 5: Dave Benson interviews Carmen and Dennis
17:48 - 19:20 Chapter 6: Changing the discipleship "game"
19:21 - 21:03 Chapter 7: Contact Dave Benson
21:04 - 23:17 Chapter 8: Conclusion

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If you're looking for a couch potato session - RUN from this episode! David Bahnsen, a regular on CNBC and Fox Financial, as well as the Founder and Managing Director of The Bahnsen Group brings his new book "Full Time: Work and the Meaning of Life" to The Disciple Dilemma. Do we really understand how God intended disciples to work?

00:00 - 01.35 Chapter 1 Introduction
01:36 - 02:49 Chapter 2 The Book: Full Time
02:50 - 08:43 Chapter 3 Foreign Concept: Biblical Work
08:44 - 12:06 Chapter 4 Christian Identity: Work
12:07 - 19:19 Chapter 5 Theology - Justice - Poverty. Did you forget?
19:20 - 22:10 Chapter 6 Work, From the Pulpit. Getting it Wrong?
22:11 - 26:23 Chapter 7 "Male-Pale-Straight-Stale"
26:24 - 29:52 Chapter 8 Conclusion

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Jim Putman on The Disciple Dilemma:
Much of western discipleship has migrated into learning facts, doing activities, and checking off membership in a church.

Is that all there is to discipleship?

Is it possible we have our priorities backward from the way we do church, to the way we train our pastors and seminaries?

Who might be qualified to talk to those kinds of questions?

If you wanted the ideal resume to talk about what it means to be a disciple, a disciple maker, a pastor, author of over a dozen books - a dozen books! and somebody who is recognized around the world as a disciple maker personally?

Well, you'd be describing Jim Putman. Along with all that, Jim Putman is a trophied wrestler, a wrestling coach, a husband, parent, and the founding pastor of Real Life Ministries in Post Falls, ID.

This episode with Jim Putman is offered humbly to pastors and leaders in churches everywhere. But we've got to warn you we aren't pulling any punches on this episode!

Chapter 1 - Introductions 00:00 - 03:00
Chapter 2 - The book "Relationshift" 03:00 - 04:17
Chapter 3 - The Mission of every church 04:18 - 06:24
Chapter 4 - What seminaries often miss 06:25 - 07:25
Chapter 5 - What's the "30 second fix for this?" 07:26 - 10:10
Chapter 6 - You first! Leaders have to disciple 10:11 - 11:30
Chapter 7 - Pastors rarely get this gift 11:31 - 13:06
Chapter 8 - Conclusion 13:07 - 13:36

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Is the Academy first and foremost fact infusion? Or is it the development of the whole-life of a person? Join the Provost of Samford University, Dr. Mike Hardin as he, Dennis & Carmen LaBerge probe the most foundational of questions in Christian Higher Education:

INTRODUCTION: Dennis introduces Dr. Mike Hardin
CHAPTER 1: See Dennis forget to tape the show! (Thanks for the assist Carmen)
CHAPTER 2: "By All Means Possible" - A look ahead, challenges in Christian Education
CHAPTER 3: Dennis gets to talk business strategy...and capitalism...
CHAPTER 4: How should we discern Christian schools that "Get-It" versus the "Nots"?
CHAPTER 5: The Mission of Christian Higher Education
CHAPTER 6: Culture change for academics and Academies
CONCLUSION

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XP Gatherings - the Executive Pastor Gathering Network, in Los Angeles hosts Dennis on a virtual coffee break to talk about the challenges of Western Christianity, and how Pastors are the key....but NOT the sole "doer" for reforming discipleship:
- What the symptoms are
- Is NOT the cause
- What now?

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For a lot of Western Christians, discipleship equals church. Is that Jesus's discipleship? Not exactly. Dr. Dave Benson, of the London Institute for Contemporary Christianity wants to talk about what's missing in modern discipling, and offer real-world examples of what IS a disciple's life and community.

Dave Benson is a pastor, professor and church planting discipler. He joins Dennis along with faith radio's Carmen LaBerge to wrangle through the misconceptions and the orthodoxy of discipleship.
INTRO: Dennis "prequels" the episode
Chapter 1: What is the London Institute for Contemporary Christianity?
Chapter 2: What do you mean - "Whole Life Disciples" (What are you trying to sell us?)
Chapter 3: The day-to-day practicum of a disciple
Chapter 4: Bet Sefer - Bet Midrash - Bet Talmud....What??
Chapter 5: A real life discipling community's day, and week, and lives
Chapter 6: Does this way of discipling endure? Make disciples? Thrive?
Chapter 7: OK: Surely non-believers would feel weird in one of these, yes?
CONCLUSION

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Dr. Warren Bird, a Pastor, a Church Planter, [prolific!] Author and recognized megachurch researcher joins Dennis and Faith Radio's Carmen LaBerge to talk about the key challenges facing large churches in the years ahead. Spoiler alert: the challenges are in discipleship.
- Why do we need an ECFA? (Evangelical Council for Financial Accountability)
- How could Warren Bird possibly have written 34 books? And what about the latest one?
- What are the pre-eminent challenges for large Western churches in the coming years?
- Can discipleship be done digitally?

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How will America rebuild its domestic manufacturing power if work is derided and the tradecrafts are deemed "less worthy" pursuits? And what does all that have to do with discipleship?

Dr. Dave Hataj, President of Edgerton Gear joins Raymond and Dennis to talk brilliantly about the disciple's calling in our duty of work. And Dave has a story to tell: His young adult life and struggles became the road to discipleship. Dave founded "Craftsman with Character" to help young workers see and develop their roles, purpose and meaning through their manufacturing excellence. Today we'll explore:
- Dave's own story
- How his book "Good Work" became a roadmap for purpose and meaning
- The identity and meaning found as a "workman not ashamed"
- How deconstruction and capitalism are part of a disciple's life
- Dave's advice to leaders in manufacturing

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Radio Host, Author, Pastor & Theologian Carmen Laberge is back! Part 2 of her episode with us "Is Something Off in Western Discipleship?" Here's what we talked about:
- What are the implications around "identity" in the life of a disciple?
- How should we think about our purpose - our days and moments as disciples?
- What does Carmen mean by the term "WITH-ing"?
- How do Lordship, Culture and Discipleship intersect?
- How should moderns - men and women - think about discipleship and the influence of feminism?
- What does submission really mean for followers of Christ?

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Into a room comes: a Political Science Major, a Molecular Biology Major, a Theologian, an Apologist, a Disciple and a Husband. They're all Lou Phillips! Lou is the Director for Church Relations at the Center for Faith, Sexuality & Gender. And why that matters in discipleship is interesting!
- What is Lou's work about?
- How does Gen Z view faith, sexuality in their identity and meaning? (It may surprise you!)
- What does the Bible have to say, really, about sexuality, about marriage and about life in those realms?

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Journalist, Author and Washington Times podcaster for "Higher Ground", Billy Hallowell talks about:
- Where you can find truth in the news
- Geopolitics: What disciples should have in their conversational toolkits
- Why Boomers wrecked everything Christian
- Advice for disciples who happen to be Congressmen & Congresswomen

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Waffle House friends? Jettys? An Oregon beach resort? What does that have to do with discipleship? Well, let's find out:
Justin Gravitt, with Navigator Church Ministries returns to The Disciple Dilemma in Part 1 of the two-part episode.

Navigatos Church ministries is in the business of helping churches restore a biblical disciple making culture. That kind of culture's a rarity they say. (And we agree.)

What's the usual discipling situation like for an up and coming pastor? Justin will answer that..
How do relationships compare to Waffle House friends? Yep, Justin will explain.

We need to rethink Western discipleship that substitutes groups for close colleagues and church activities for the development of individual followers of Christ. This episode makes those points and the case for a reformation of discipleship in the West.

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Psychologist, Author and Professor Todd Hall joins us to talk about his new book "The Connected Life", and how we are hard-wired to connect with other people. And without connections, things don't typically go well for people!

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Billy Hallowell, the Washington Times' voice of the Higher Ground podcast invites Dennis in to talk about what's going on in our culture - our Christian culture.

What do the statistics (continue to) tell us about the exits from faith, about the timidity and fragility and fears of Christ followers?

A lively interview between Billy & Dennis

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Princeton theologian, author, radio host (and even a farm-bride), Carmen LaBerge joins us to explore the trends and challenges driving Western Christianity.
What's missing for followers of Jesus, compared with Christ's way of "doing" discipleship? Tune in and have a listen!

  • Why Carmen wrote "Speak the Truth - How to Bring God Back Into Every Conversation"
  • The life of an introvert, who happens to be Carmen, in speaking the truth
  • What happened to the Christian culture in Western discipleship?
  • Where to from here?

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Professor, podcaster, author and apologist Randy Newman joins Dennis & Raymond to discuss his upcoming new book "Questioning Faith".

Randy's resume includes time on staff with Cru (Campus Crusade for Christ) as well as his role as being the Senior Fellow for Apologetics and Evangelism at the C.S. Lewis Institute.

  • Why question faith? Who did you write this book for, really?
  • You described yourself as an "evangelistic chicken". What gives?
  • You started out Jewish, in New York. How did you end up as a Christian professor, author and apologist?
  • How do disciples connect with people outside the church?

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Professor, Author and the Dean of The Oxford Centre for Mission Studies joins us to talk about global discipleship, and especially discipleship in China.
How does the church function there?
What is the Chinese Communist Party doing to the Church there?
Is it surviving?

And what does this mean for me, as a disciple in the West?

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Professor, Author and former Pastor Dr. John Marriott talks about his newest book "Set Adrift" focusing on Christian deconstruction in Part Two of this interview.

"Set Adrift" coauthored with Sean McDowell is another of John's well-researched book describing the whats and whys behind many people rethinking what they hold to be true in their faith and churches.
- What is deconstruction?
- How does discipleship fit in, or not here?

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Professor, former Pastor and Author Dr. John Marriott talks "deconversion" in Part One and "deconstruction" in Part Two of this interview.

"Anatomy of Deconversion" is John's well-researched book describing the whats and whys behind many people walking away from their faith and churches.
- What is deconversion?
- Is someone who used to be saved now "lost" when they deconvert?
- What's the profile of the typical deconverter?
- How does discipleship fit in, or not here?
- How are we "catechizing" ourselves with Western culture? How does that weigh in on deconversion?

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Dr. Philip Dearborn, President of the Association for Biblical Higher Education (ABHE) joins Dennis & Raymond to talk about school accreditation and discipleship. How can that possibly work together?

The mission of ABHE is unusual - rather than focus on typical metrics, ABHE aims to impact the world for Christ, and to do that by helping their schools make disciples. Topics in this episode:
- What and Why is there an ABHE?
- Why should I care if a school is accredited...what does that have to do with discipling?
- How critical thinking is vital to a disciple's ability to influence others
- Is the survival of the Church guaranteed?
- The demographics and issues facing higher education - and how ABHE thinks about that.
- What's the difference between students coming into higher education today versus a decade or two ago? How does that put stress and load on universities?
- Are universities in the education business, or the discipling business?
- Why are student anxiety and stress rocketing upward today?
- The "Great Awokening" and "MAGA"...what's up on campuses with those? 
- Christian liberty - what's that?

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Jim Kirkland, the Executive Director of Christian Chaplains and Coaching joins Raymond & Dennis to talk about why the words "Christian" and "Chaplains" are not one and the same any more. 

Issues in this episode:
- Why do we need a "Christian" Chaplains association?
- What are the specifics of a chaplain's life?  
- How does discipleship integrate in a chaplain's life?
- What does Jim mean by "no lone rangers"?
- What are workforce chaplains and why do we need them?
- Why do we need chaplains in seminaries, for Pete's sake?
- Raymond explains cooties...

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True or False: Pastors are rarely discipled in their Christian education and training. Sadly, it's true - as in less than 20% of pastors say they have been discipled. 

That was Mark Danzey's story as an Atlanta "big church" pastor for fifteen years in ministry. Then he met Bill Lohnes, founder of "Narrow Gate EFL" (Equipping for Life).

This is a no-holds-barred look at the majority report in Western discipleship.
- The dearth of discipling in formal Christian higher education
- What does Bill mean by "incomplete" discipleship when speaking of church activities?
- Why programs are not discipleship 
- What it's like to be a Mark Danzey, encountering a disciple-making Bill Lohnes the first few times
- The wonderful difference real, full discipleship makes in the lives of believers

Bill and Mark joined us on The Disciple Dilemma to unpack the enigma around why pastors and the folks in their churches are significantly under-discipled today, and how Narrow Gate is coaching a better way forward.

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What's up in New England? Dr. Jim Harrell, founder of "Overseed" joins Dennis to talk about the "different gospel" that has invaded a lot of New England churches - and the implications around discipleship.
- What is "Overseed" and why is it in New England?
- Fifty percent of the churches in New England reject the Gospel? Can that be right?
- How did World War 2 and European liberalism infect churches in New England?
- What do you mean by "a different gospel"?
- Why is pastor turnover in New England so rampant? 
- Jim claims the work of culture change in churches can take years to gain traction. !!??
- What are Overseed's five core competencies for pastors?
- How does power roil the work of revitalizing churches?
- Shark Tank! What's Jim Harrell's two-minute advice for pastors?
- "The Disciple Dilemma gave me PTSD". What's with that Dr. Harrell?
- What are the headwinds facing discipleship in New England?

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If you were trying to develop or reform discipleship in your church, who could you team up with? That's what The Bonhoeffer Project - named for the World War 2 discipling pastor, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, is about. 

  • Is there something wrong with the way Western churches think about discipleship?
  • What does the Great Commission really mean?
  • How is modern Western discipling impairing the lives of pastors?
  • How easy is it to develop a discipling culture in a big church? 
  • What are the obstacles?
  • How about in a small church? 
  • Is it possible to connect with The Bonhoeffer project as an individual?

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We often speak about what's NOT working in Christian culture when it comes to discipleship. Let's talk about how people are rebuilding a biblical culture of discipleship in the West. Gina Mueller, the Director of 3DM North America explains.
- What is 3DM?
- What is Jesus-shaped discipleship?
- What are the fundamentals of a biblical culture?
- What are challenges facing Western churches around discipleship?

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Dave Buehring, Founder of Lionshare.org joins Dennis & Raymond to talk about how to make disciples - and the challenges in doing that in the USA.
- What does the "raw material" (Christians) look like in the West today?
- How is discipleship faring among pastors?
- What causes a Christian community's culture to support - or hinder - discipling?

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Jarrod Spalding, a former pastor, and the cofounder of Vision Partners talks about the struggles of many New England churches to survive, and how Vision Partners is helping to restore those churches.

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Rodney Cox and Steve NeSmith, with Ministry Insights International interview Dennis on the StrongTeams podcast:
- What does Dennis claim as the problem?
- How is leadership in Western Christianity supposed to respond?

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Professor, Pastor, Author and Apologist Rick Lints joins us on The Disciple Dilemma for Part Two of our series "Unity in Diversity and Discipleship".
- What does Redeemer City-to-City in New York have to do with all this?
- How do idolatry traps spring up inside Christian communities?
- What does listening and understanding have to do with discipleship?

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Attorney, apologist and follower of Christ, Max Jeganathan joins Dennis to talk about how disciples should think, grapple with and engage with the despair, suffering and troubles facing people today.

How should we think about these things personally?
How should we relate to people as disciples in these times?
How do some believers run from their identity, their hope and their meaning in Christ?
And how does Max deconstruct those kinds of ideas toward the full call of a disciple?

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A podcaster, author, and former businessman-turned-Pastor - Adam Tarnow joins The Disciple Dilemma to talk about leadership's serving role to organizations, and why that matters to businesses and churches alike. Adam discusses his new book, co-authored with David Morrison "The EDGE, How to Stand Out by Showing You're All In"

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What does a hotel and real estate investment company have to do with discipleship in New England? A lot! 

The Cecil B. Day Foundation has been supporting and accelerating the work of Christ, especially in discipleship in New England for many years. Listen and Raymond and Dennis talk with Woody White, President of the CB Day Foundation and with Rick Francis, also with the Foundation, as they describe the challenges and results of the Foundation's work and the partners they team with.

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Dr. Nathan Wagnon, founder of The Eden Project joins Dennis & Raymond to talk about unpacking the phrase "living in the love of God". 

Isn't that obvious? Or is it? A two-time Afghan war veteran, former Pastor and discipler, Dr. Wagnon is a Christ follower, husband, dad and servant to churches through the ministry of the Eden Project.

Pastors - you need to catch this conversation.

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This conversation is right up the centerline of The Disciple Dilemma! Crossroads Church founding pastor Ken Adams - who also founded Impact Discipleship Ministries wants to talk about the real mission of every church, about leadership's role in that fight, and the challenges facing young and upcoming pastors in Western Christianity. A great conversation!

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Apologist, Author and Professor Sean McDowell joins Dennis & Raymond to scrimmage ideas like:
- Isn't apologetics really just theological and philosophical judo?
- How should a regular Christian think about apologetics and discipleship in their everyday life?
- Why would Sean title a book "A Rebel's Manifesto"?
- How should Christ followers interact with their kids on the tough questions and issues?
- Do I have to memorize the Apologetics Encyclopedia to be a good Christian?
- What if I'm stumped by a non-believer's question?
- Why are apologetics more about a relationship - than snappy answers?
- How should we be "inoculated" as Christ followers to operate well in the real world?

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Professor, Provost, Pastor and Author Rick Lints joins Raymond and Dennis to explore the complex arena of identity, idolatry and unity among disciples. How can identity be idolatry? For that matter, how can church, family, work or just regular life be idolatry? And why is that important in my life as a disciple?

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Author, journalist, ex-pastor and missionary Brandon Flanery joins Dennis & Raymond to talk about life as an ex-vangelical, and Brandon's new book "Stumbling, A Sassy Memoir About Coming Out of the Closet and Evangelicalism"  What things drove Brandon from his evangelical roots? How does someone in the LGBTQ community feel when they attend church alongside other people? How should disciples reach out and how should they show agape (Christ's unconditional love) to people who don't think like they do?

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Dr. Curtis Chang, Pastor, Professor, Podcaster, Author and Innovator talks about his upcoming book "The Anxiety Opportunity. Curtis also walks through his proposal - now an ongoing program in the church he attends about the authority and responsibility of church leaders to "matchmake" teams of two or three disciples in the manner of Jesus's disciple making.

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Cherie Harder, the President of The Trinity Forum joins Dennis & Raymond to talk about the dichotomy between Western Christianity and "intellectual hospitality".  

How should disciples form their views of the world? 
How do they consider the complexities of social discourse and issues like statesmanship and their own citizenship as disciples in the communities they live in? 

A White House policy advisor, a Magna Cum Laude from Harvard and a Rotary Scholar from Queensland College - Cherie brings a rich tapestry of thought to our conversation today!

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Dr. Chuck Lawless, Professor of Evangelism and Missions at Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary joins Dennis & Raymond to talk about "Bubbles" and Obstacles. Both Chuck's free e-book and his paper on "Obstacles" are favorites of Dennis - things that impede discipling in the West.

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What makes for a leader in business? How does a disciple act as a leader in the workplace? Nick Westbrook, motivational speaker, coach and entrepreneur joins Dennis & Raymond to talk about just that.

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If you want to hear a concise and practical explanation about being a disciple maker as a regular person - here's your podcast! 

Emergency Room Physician Doctor Mike Shaffner talks about his escapades becoming a disciple in college, teaming up with other disciples in Medical School and making disciples. A terrific interview!

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Mike Sherrard, Pastor, Author and now President of The C.S. Lewis Society joins Dennis and Raymond to think about the whats and hows in the relationship between discipleship and apologetics. Aren't apologists the big debaters? Aren't disciples the quiet servants? How does this work?  

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Dr. Roger Parrott, President of Belhaven University joins Dennis and Raymond to discuss the role of leadership in getting results and avoiding a planning morass - using the concepts in his new book "Opportunity Leadership". 

Then Dr. Parrott talks about leadership's role in discipling in Christian higher education.

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How does discipleship differ in Eastern Europe from its American counterpart? How do businesses and the academies regard Christianity in Poland and Croatia? How does Cru (Campus Crusade) do discipling over there? Join two Cru leaders - Andrzej Zobolatny from Warsaw Poland, and Nolan Sharp from Zagreb, Croatia as they discuss culture, identity, technology, relationships and most importantly, making disciples as they talk with Dennis.

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On "The Universe Next Door" Professor Tom Woodward - the founder of the C.S. Lewis Society - along with Pastor Nick Shalna run a rapid-fire interview with Dennis, about discipleship challenges facing leaders in the Church, and churches, today. 
- Why do you say "discipleship has been hacked"?
- Is there a biblical case for this?
- Where's the proof?
- What are the symptoms?
- How does a hack go back eighteen centuries?
- So now what? How to address the dilemma?

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Part 2: What's It Like Over There? Is discipleship on the mission field a cakewalk, or a costly thing? And where is the mission field anyway? 
- Where did all the men on the mission field go?
- What's it like as a disciple in the academies these days?
- What is discipleship?
- What's the "dark side" of institutional missions?
- What's the worst best job as a disciple?
- How do linguistics fit in to discipling?
- What's "team discipling"?

Listen as "Lynn" and "Dr. Kate" talk about life as a disciple on the mission field - overseas and in the academies.

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The NBA Orlando Magic's Senior Vice-President Pat Williams hosts Dennis on "The Power Hour" to walk through The Disciple Dilemma. Pat explores each chapter with Dennis to unpack the dilemma, its effect on disciples - and most importantly, what leaders in churches and Christian communities need to do to address the dilemma.

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What does it mean to be the religious minority in a country? Part 1 of this conversation describes the challenges and opportunities disciples confront in a religious society where a Protestant is less than 1% of the population. Matej Sakec of the Evangelical Theological Seminary and Marko Romanjik, founder of the Startup venture Go!ng Places talk with Dennis

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Meet a Fortune 100 engineer, speaker and a mom, who is homeschooling her 3 children. Barbara Allyn joins her father Raymond, and Dennis to talk about the challenges and the opportunities as a parent raising Christ followers today.   @Barbara Allyn   #discipleship #homeschoolmom #thediscipledilemma

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Andy Moore, Managing Director of Chorus Network UK joins Dennis & Raymond to talk about life as a disciple in the world of finance and capital. Can a Christian do that? And, how should followers of Christ be reacting - and living out the times we live in today with such turmoil. A great conversation!

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What is a corporate "turnaround"? Why are employees so unhappy with work? How does a Mission, and a culture - or lack of them - affect people in an organization? And - what does leadership have to do with any of this?  Join RadioX host John Ray from Atlanta to talk with the author of "The Disciple Dilemma" Dennis Allen about being a CEO, turnarounds, people and the dilemma facing leaders today.

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Listen to two tentmaker Pastors - John & Debbie Kitterman tell about the challenges, pressures and opportunities in discipling people today from the perspective of a Pastor. How does political polarity, social causes and local community affect pastors, and how does it affect disciples in the local community?

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From Munich Germany, Pastor John Snyder interviews Dennis on "The Walk" to talk about how Dennis came to Christ, how he was discipled and what the Dilemma is doing to modern discipleship. The Walk Podcast with @johnisnyder on @theologymix. 

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Who Am I? What Am I? Why Am I? Os Guinness joins Dennis and Raymond to talk about his new book "The Great Quest, Invitation to an Examined Life and a Sure Path to Meaning". What does Os mean by his use of the term seeker? Why do so few people think about who or what they are? How does this apply to the life of a disciple?

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Justin Gravitt, with The Navigators Church Ministry joins Raymond and Dennis to talk about how leaders affect discipleship, and how Christian culture in most of Western Christianity must change. Justin's website is justin.gravitt.com and his ebook on discipleship, along with the broader role of the Navigators and discipling can be found at https://navigatorschurchministries.org/

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What, exactly, do we expect from leaders to take on the Dilemma in Western Christianity? AFR's Walker Wildmon investigates the Dilemma, and what to do about it.

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A woman of outspoken faith in Jesus Christ, a public servant and a devoted wife and mother. Os Guinness reflects on the faith, humility and service of Queen Elizabeth II.

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Listen as Dennis walks through the biblical case for discipleship being individuals with individuals - not Pastors or churches running programs. Who are you walking alongside?

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r. Michael Easely, Moody Bible Institute's eighth President, a four-time Senior Pastor, an Author and host of the "Michael InContext" podcast joins Dennis & Raymond on The Disciple Dilemma. Let's talk about the underlying challenges in Western Christian church culture. How hard is it to swing a church culture away from the distractions of institutional operations? How does leadership help and hinder discipleship in churches today? Where to from here?

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It is tough being a Pastor in Western Christianity these days! Join a conversation with Pastor, podcaster author and discipler Tony Miltenberger of "The Reclamation Podcast" as we talk about the challenges facing Pastors in doing their jobs - and how that deeply affects discipleship.

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Jesus commissioned us to make disciples, so what is a disciple? How can leaders and pastors create cultures that allow disciples to grow and bring more people into the discipleship process? Career CEO and author Dennis Allen shares how to make discipleship happen. A must listen and the book is a must read for all who love the church.

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What does 1st Samuel and King Saul have to do with "whataboutism? What, in the world, could whataboutism have to do with discipleship? 2 minutes on the role of leaders and some personal conviction, about how I'm more like King Saul than I'd like to admit...

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Mike Henry, Sr. the Founder of "Follower of One" joins Raymond and Dennis to talk about being faithful to Christ is our workaday world. How do you do that? What does it look like? Follower of One is a marketplace discipling program worthy of a listen here!

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Career CEO and author Dennis Allen shows us how bad business techniques – coupled with old church traditions are compromising disciples and eroding Christ’s influence in society. Can the church change how we disciple so we can raise a generation of true disciples rather than just consumers of Sunday church? Join the conversation!1

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A Monday thought about the crucial role of wingmen as a disciple. The stunning realization I had, as a disciple in progress, that my wingmen - in this case a mentor from 40 years prior - can look inside me in seconds and see what I cannot! That's a long-term well-developed benefit of discipling. Check it out.

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Traci Woolsey interviews Dennis about the challenges facing discipleship. Who's fault is it? And what does a car engine have to do with any of this?

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Scott McLeod, President of Brown Financial Advisory joins Dennis to talk about how disciples should think about - and live in times of recessions, inflation, wars and turbulence. With an emphasis on how leaders should disciple and live by example - listen as Dennis and Scott talk about discipleship - and leadership for disciples in turbulent times.

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What's going on in American Christianity? What's with the numbers of people abandoning faith and going crickets in speaking about Christ? This excerpt is from CBN's national broadcast of "The Global Lane" (Episode 603) on July 21st, 2022.

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On "Real Truth for Today" (For His Heart Ministries), Pastor and author Dr. Jeff Schreve interviews Dennis about the challenges facing modern discipling. 

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A very short and informal series (Yes, He CAN Be Trained!) describing my own learning about changing a culture - and the biblical case for doing it.

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I can be pretty self-absorbed. Then, a family member's injury showed me what care and concern really look life - you give up your time and your agenda for someone else....which oddly, is just like Jesus's way of discipling. 

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Society does not like simple answers. Nuance and complexity are socil markers of significance. So the question "How do you make a disciple?" - is that complicated? 

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What does it mean to be a doulos? How is that concept very different from modern discipleship? Join Dennis as he talks with Tony Miltenberger on "The Reclamation Podcast" from Dayton, Ohio.

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Speaker and Apologist Simon Edwards joins The Disciple Dilemma from Oxford, UK. In Part 1 he talks about his new book "The Sanity of Belief - Why Faith Makes Sense". A member of the leadership team at The Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics, Simon explains how discipleship includes being able to winsomely explain how rational God's plans for us really are! And how that wonderful plan matters to everyone. Also, highlights on activities at "The OCCA" - The Oxford Centre for Christian Apologetics.

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The Christian Radio Network's Bill Martinez talks through the dilemma with Dennis Allen - especially leadership and discipleship.

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Attorney and Pastor Chuck Crismier talks in depth with Dennis about the challenges facing discipleship, facing Christian leaders, and how The Disciple Dilemma is addressing a real and formidable challenge in Christian communities.

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How do we actually help leaders change the cultures, and even more, the Mission of our local churches to conform to Christ's Mission?  Dennis explains here.

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Listen as Dennis and Bill Bunkley recap the challenges facing disciples today, and what leaders must do to address the dilemma.

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What does biblical support for biblical leaders look like? Lessons learned by a disciple in progress about substance versus jealousy, avoidance versus pettiness. How we should be cheering for leaders, and serving them with love, yes, and honesty, absolutely.

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Perry Atkinson interviews Dennis about discipleship in Western Christianity - what's the dilemma?

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Michael Delgiorno interviews Dennis about The Disciple Dilemma

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Steve Hiller interviews Dennis about the new book coming out: The Disciple Dilemma

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Bill Arnold & Dennis talk about discipleship in America

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The headlines are screaming in anguish about the evil around us. And it is devastating - but also, according to Christ - right here in each of us. We are not better kinds of people, we are evil people, redeemed by Christ, through faith, because of his grace alone. And because that is all true - we are evil, Christ redeems - disciples serve even in the midst of evil. 

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Why are the Nones walking away from their faith? Why would one come back? Listen as Libby and Jordan talk with Dennis & Raymond about what's wrong with Western Christianity.

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Why do so many people today find truth, meaning and reality uninteresting? How do we serve Christ if people don't even want to talk about the big stuff God intends us to pass along? Well, I learned some things this week...

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If leaders are to take on the dilemma of hacked Western discipleship, what does that mean, and what will it require? A disciple in progress thinks about that.

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There is a lot going on out there in the world. Even so, a disciple has to stay focused as a servant of the Most High God, to run steady and persistently as a disciple, learning, serving and not getting distracted.

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What does it mean to lead disciples in international missions? What are the challenges? What role do leaders play in the development of their missions disciples? Is it any different from our struggles stateside? Join Dennis Allen and Ray Monroe as they explore the dilemma in international  missions work with Melanie Rogers, of Campus Outreach SERVE and Meredith Elder with SERGE.

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A big learning moment for me as I realize, once again, I am fast to speak and slow to understand before I do that speaking. 

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My re-learn this week that as a bondservant of Christ, not all I say or do is....magnificent. The ability to hear, to be taught...the never ending continuous improvement of a disciple.

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Join the head of "Faith Foundry", retired Mega Church Pastor Dr. Larry Thompson and Reverend Chris Bear, a Pastor serving at Reston Presbyterian Church in the Washington DC area. Let's talk about the challenges the dilemma is throwing at Pastors in our churches.

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How does modern Christianity stack up against biblical discipleship? There are some big gaps. Let's see what a disciple in progress is learning about being a bondservant of Christ.

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How is a movement to chop and cut up Chanel bags in Russia like Matthew 6:24? Listen to confessions of a disciple in progress - on The Disciple Dilemma.

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I have to keep learning this lesson again and again! Keep the main thing - the mission - the main thing. Apparently, other leaders in Christianity have that same problem.

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How did this war really come about? How should we think about our enemies? What can disciples do to deal with war, oppression and injustice? Listen as Dr. Kateryna explains.

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What is the dilemma anyway? Hear this month's "Slice" from the book as Dennis explains the problem. 

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What is art and how does it have anything to do with discipleship? Watch highlights of the conversation with Cory Bonnet of New Vision Studio.

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What is art and how does it have anything to do with discipleship? Watch highlights of the conversation with Cory Bonnet of New Vision Studio.

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Leaders: How do today's headlines help us understand our roles as discipling servants for Christ?

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What's it like in there? Part 2 - What does it look like and live like, to be a disciple in the Christian music industry? A conversation with Songwriter and Performer Jeremy Casella.

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What's it like in there? Part 1 - What does it look like and live like, to be a disciple in the Christian music industry? A conversation with Songwriter and Performer Jeremy Casella.

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Discipleship can be costly, especially for leaders. And yet it is our destiny. Listen as Air Force Major General Jack Catton discuss the cost of discipleship.

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Lessons learned by a disciple in progress. Why do Christians operate so often with a culture of seeking to be heard - before we even understand the people we're with? 

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What's It Like Over There? Is discipleship on the mission field a cakewalk, or a costly thing? And where is the mission field anyway? Listen as "Lynn" and "Dr. Kate" talk about life as a disciple on the mission field - overseas and in the academies.

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What is power, how does it manifest itself in discipleship? Lessons learned by a disciple in progress.

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Confessions of a disciple in progress.  We talk about the symptoms caused by the dilemma. I thought I believed in them. But now I'm meeting them! The dilemma is real. What to do? Welcome to The Disciple Dilemma.

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A five-minute synopsis of the full-length episode, with author Ashley Chesnut, featuring her book "It's Not Just You". The complete video presentation in two parts is at www.discipledilemma.com/podcast/ and on YouTube.

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A five-minute IN-take on the full length podcast - Listen as Greg & Stacey Oliver of Awaken Recovery talk about the threats from sex and porn addictions - and the hope for disciples who want out. The full video version of the podcast is found at www.discipledilemma.com/podcast/ and on YouTube.

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What is sexual brokenness? How can I call myself a disciple if I have these kinds of struggles and failures? What do leaders owe their people in discipling women in the midst of this challenge? Join author Ashley Chesnut as she discusses her book "It's Not Just You" with Dennis Allen and Raymond Monroe on The Disciple Dilemma.

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Advocacy - is there a better way than social media rants and rallies? What does Scripture have to say about that?

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Lesson learned this week: Putin's invasion of Ukraine ties to The Disciple Dilemma. 

How? Leaders must have counsel, honesty and real information feeds - people who will tell them the truth, not what they want to hear. 

When leaders make decisions without solid counsel, decisions based on ego, power and even sympathies, the outcomes are rarely good. 

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How does discipleship combat sexual brokenness? How does the Church better prepare to help people with this challenge? How can freedom from isolation, shame and stress - all available in biblical discipleship help in this fight? Join Awaken Recovery's founders, Greg & Stacey Oliver as they discuss this part of the disciple dilemma with Dennis Allen & Raymond Monroe, with Q&A at the end of the podcast.

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What's my job? As a disciple, am I required to be an evangelist too? Confusion reigns in the minds of a lot of believers. Let's take a look.

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How to make sturdier and more passionate disciples? Listen to them! Leaders, as biblical disciples developing disciples, need to listen, and learn. Two Minute IN-take!

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What does it mean, exactly, to make a disciple, as in Matthew 28.19? Join Ray and Brent from Chicago with Dennis on this two-minute conversation.

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How do you cram 300 pages of The Disciple Dilemma into two minutes? Let's try. What are the symptoms, causes and consequences behind The Disciple Dilemma?