Pastors In Transition: Recent Episodes
Ben DiStefano
A podcast designed to help pastors, families, and churches navigate the challenges that come with pastoral transitions from ministry to the marketplace, ministry to ministry, and even the unknown of what's next.
Today we’re going to hear from Eugene Kim who on his own walked out of the doors of church ministry in pursuit of what could be reimagined for the church in form, function, and how to reach people living on the fringe of faith.
Ministry transitions come in a number of different ways but they are all challenging. Pastors in Transition is here to help pastors, families, and churches navigate those unique challenges and bring hope, help and healing.
We have a team of people who volunteer their time and expertise to help pastors and families find hope, help, and healing. From mentoring, to counseling with licensed counselors, to prayer support, retreat facility options, and career assessments, Pastors in Transition is here to help.
Show Notes
Pastors in Transition: www.pastorsintransition.net
New Wine Collective: https://newwinecollective.org/
Eugene Kim on Twitter: @eugenepkim2
Welcome back to season 2 of the Podcast. Today in Episode 2, we’re going to hear again from Beau Johnson. Prior to joining the Table Group, Beau worked at Buckhead Church in Atlanta, Ga which is a part of North Point Ministries. Now, Beau works for Patrick Lencioni’s The Table Group. Many of us are familiar with Pat and his keynotes at the Global Leadership Summit, and his work in Leadership, Team, and Work Place Development with Fortune 500 Companies.
Beau Johnson is a frequent guest on The Table Group’s Podcast called, At the Table, and he brings decades of insight from his background in the church.
Here’s part 2 of my conversation with Beau Johnson.
Show Notes:
Pastors in Transition Ministry: www.pastorsintransition.net
The 6 Types of Working Genius: https://www.workinggenius.com/
Working Genius for the Church: https://irresistible.church/working-genius
Working Genius Podcast: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-working-genius-podcast-with-patrick-lencioni/id1553105854
The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beaujjohnson/
Beau’s Cell #: 970-222-3331
Buckhead Church: https://buckheadchurch.org/
Azusa Pacific University: https://www.apu.edu/
Today as we kick off Season 2, we’re going to hear from Beau Johnson.
Beau works for Patrick Lencioni’s The Table Group. Many of us are familiar with Pat and his keynotes at the Global Leadership Summit, and his work in Leadership, Team, and Work Place Development with Fortune 500 Companies.
Beau Johnson is a frequent guest on The Table Group’s Podcast called, At the Table, and he brings decades of insight from his background in the church.
Prior to joining the table group, Beau worked at Buckhead Church in Atlanta, Ga which is a part of North Point Ministries.
In part one of this conversation, Beau shares his ministry background, his journey, and what led to his transition from the church to the marketplace. So settle in and get ready … Here’s my conversation with Beau Johnson.
Show Notes:
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beaujjohnson/
Beau’s Cell #: 970-222-3331
The Table Group: https://www.tablegroup.com/
The 6 Types of Working Genius: https://www.workinggenius.com/
Buckhead Church: https://buckheadchurch.org/
Azusa Pacific University: https://www.apu.edu/
Jeff Henderson, "What to Do Next Taking Your Best Step When Life Is Uncertain": https://a.co/d/fXsr8V9
Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast, Jeff Henderson: https://careynieuwhof.com/episode517/
Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast, Clay Scroggins: https://careynieuwhof.com/episode476/
Season 2, drops on Tuesday, March 21, 2023. Be sure to subscribe, follow, and hit the alert bell to not miss an episode of the new season, as we help pastors, families, and churches navigate the challenges of transitioning from church-to-church, or church-to-marketplace.
www.pastorsintransition.net
In this episode, we hear from Dave Gutknecht. Dave has spent his career as a licensed therapist and has worked directly in the church and with church leadership boards.
This is a helpful conversation for both pastors and churches, how they can get along together, and the importance of speaking the truth in love.
Dave serves with our ministry, Pastors in Transition, as one of the therapists available to pastors and families who find themselves in transition.
Pastors in Transition is a non-profit organization that was formed to help pastors, families, and churches navigate the unique challenges, hurt, and stress associated with ministry transitions. We have a team of people who volunteer their time and expertise to help pastors and families find hope, help, and healing. From mentoring, to counseling with licensed counselors, to prayer support, retreat facility options, and career assessments, Pastors in Transition is here to help.
Show Notes:
Pastors in Transition Website: www.pastorsintransition.net
Dave's Website: https://davelife.coach/
Dave's Coaching Cards: https://davelife.coach/coaching-cards
Dave's Email: davelifecoach@gmail.com
Ron Henry Episodes:
Episode 2: https://apple.co/3Cu9Kuz
Episode 3: https://apple.co/3TjZH25
In this episode, we’re going to hear the second part of our conversation with Eric Hoke who runs a ministry called I Help Pastors Get Jobs.Eric describes for us how he and his team at All Saints Church lead in a Co-Vocational model of ministry and how that brings synergy to a church community located in the poorest Congressional District in America, which is located in the most expensive city in America.
Show Notes:
Eric Hoke - Social Media
- LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3Kugigl
- Twitter: @erichoke
- I Help Pastors Get Jobs: https://www.ihelpastorsgetjobs.com/
- 30 Page PDF request: https://mailchi.mp/7a3e91365db7/free-pdf
- All Saints Church: allsaintsnyc.com
SHOW NOTES: Welcome to the Pastors in Transition Podcast. Today we’re going to hear from Eric Hoke who runs a ministry called I Help Pastors Get Jobs. Eric is a church planter in the poorest Congressional District in America, which is located in the most expensive city in America. A few years ago, Eric broke down the glass wall between the church and the marketplace and moved into a CO-VOCATIONAL role. If you’ve been thinking of making the transition from the church to the marketplace, whether full-time or part-time, you don’t want to miss this episode.
Pastors in Transition is a non-profit organization that was formed to help pastors, families, and churches navigate the unique challenges, hurt, and stress associated with ministry transitions. We have a team of people who volunteer their time and expertise to help pastors and families find hope, help, and healing. From mentoring, to counseling with licensed counselors, to prayer support, retreat facility options, and career assessments, Pastors in Transition is here to help.
Eric Hoke - Social Media
- LinkedIn: https://bit.ly/3Kugigl
- Twitter: @erichoke
- I Help Pastors Get Jobs: https://www.ihelpastorsgetjobs.com/
- 30 Page PDF request: https://mailchi.mp/7a3e91365db7/free-pdf
- All Saints Church: allsaintsnyc.com
In this episode, we hear from Pastor Doug Vance. Doug was on staff at a large multi-site church in Pennsylvanina wearing a number of hats over time, from worship, to administration, to leadership development, to media production, and as a campus pastor. And in February 2022, Doug left his role. No controversy, no issues, just a sense that it was time to go -- But with no destination. He and his wife Becky, pooled their resources, packed up the RV and went west, to pray, pause, and put things in perspective. They took a leap of faith, without a place to land.
Show Notes:
Pastors in Transition Website
The Road Less Traveled Website
Tri County Church
In this episode, we hear the second part of our conversation with Vance Martin of the Slingshot Group. We dive into the new leverage pastors have in negotiating with churches in the hiring process. We also explore how Slingshot Group assists and coaches pastors who are in the search process; and we talk about what it's like to move from the ministry to the marketplace and how that makes us evaluate the idea of "calling" in ministry.
Show Notes:
Pastors in Transition: www.pastorsintransition.net
Slingshot Group: https://slingshotgroup.org/
Vance Martin Email: vmartin@slingshotgroup.org
There’s a shift occurring in ministry transitions and recruiting. Vance Martin join us as part of the Slingshot Group and shares with us the value their group brings, helping change and alter the future of the pastor and their family and the trajectory of the church.
Show Notes:
- Pastors in Transition Ministry:www.pastorsintransition.net
- Vance Martin: vmartin@slingshotgroup.org
- The Slingshot Group: https://slingshotgroup.org/
In this episode, we bring you the second part of our conversation with Willow Creek Executive Pastor for Campuses, Tim Stevens. Tim brings helpful wisdom, insight, and knowledge from his years as a mega church staff pastor — 20 years at Granger Church — and from his time working at the Vanderbloemen Search Group. We get into the specifics of leading well from the second chair, what it takes to work at a mega church, and how to transition well.
Show Notes:
- Pastors in Transition Ministry: www.pastorsintransition.net
- Willow Creek Community Church: https://www.willowcreek.org/
- Vanderbloemen Search Group: https://www.vanderbloemen.com/
- Granger Church: https://grangerchurch.com/
- Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast with Levi Lusko: https://careynieuwhof.com/episode484/
- Blog: www. leadingsmart.com
- IG: @Timastevens
Tim Stevens is the executive pastor for campuses, at Willow Creek Community Church. Prior to that he served with the Vanderbloemen Search Group, which has served to help many pastors and churches through the job search process. He also served for 20 years at Granger Church in Indiana, as an executive pastor.
Tim brings so much to the table that we are dividing this conversation into 2 parts. Today, Tim discusses the value of wise counsel in our personal circles, the push and pull we experience as we consider transitions, and he touches on the very real mental health issues that many pastors are facing.
So, here’s part one of the conversation with Tim Stevens.
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Show Notes
- Pastors in Transition Ministry: www.pastorsintransition.net
- Willow Creek Community Church: https://www.willowcreek.org/
- Vanderbloemen Search Group: https://www.vanderbloemen.com/
- Granger Church: https://grangerchurch.com/
- Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast with Levi Lusko: https://careynieuwhof.com/episode484/
- Blog: www. leadingsmart.com
- IG: @Timastevens
NFL Chaplain Kent Chevalier shares encouragement and insight on personal growth, discovering God's plan, and taking risks. He shares how he moved from the church walls to the NFL sidelines.
Show Notes:
Youth With a Mission
The Alliance (The Christian and Missionary Alliance)
Geneva College
North Way Christian Community Church
Athletes in Action
False Jesus
Team Chevalier
Pastor Jay Martin found the value of the Pastors in Transition Ministry as he was going through his own transition. In the process he reached out the the PIT team, and found the friendship, support, and encouragement he needed in a mentoring relationship during his job change. He also found a new life long friend.
Show Notes:
Pastor Jay Martin: jmartin3kids@gmail.com
Pastors in Transition Ministry
So many pastors and families think that ministry and calling are assignments in the four-walls of a church. In this episode, Ron Henry helps us understand the importance of connections and community to give us a new perspective on where our next assignment might come from.
Don’t forget to subscribe and follow our podcast, and be sure to leave a review and rating.
SHOW NOTES:
Pastors in Transition Ministry: www.pastorsintransition.net
Ron Henry Email: ronhenry@sterlinggroup.com
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronhenrysterlinggroup/
The Sterling Group: http://sterlinggroup.com/
MarketPlace Chaplains: https://mchapusa.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIl_Tl6M2Y9gIVZBh9Ch2jKg8_EAAYASAAEgKbAPD_BwE
The Seven Mountains of Influence: https://www.generals.org/the-seven-mountains
Calling, Confusion, Alignment Many of us question our sense of calling — the meaning and purpose found in our job and career — when we go through seasons of career transition. In this episode we hear from Ron Henry a career coach, job placement specialist, and contributor to the Pastors in Transition ministry. Ron begins to outline for us our confusion over our calling and gives us hope for future as we seek alignment. Don’t forget to subscribe and follow our podcast, and be sure to leave a review and rating.
SHOW NOTES: Ron Henry
- Email: ronhenry@sterlinggroup.com
- LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ronhenrysterlinggroup/
- The Sterling Group: http://sterlinggroup.com/
- MarketPlace Chaplains: https://mchapusa.com/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIl_Tl6M2Y9gIVZBh9Ch2jKg8_EAAYASAAEgKbAPD_BwE
- The Seven Mountains of Influence: https://www.generals.org/the-seven-mountains
Where do pastors and their families turn when they've been displaced from their church? Who becomes the church for the pastor's family? Pastors in Transition founder Mark Fitter shares his story of what he experienced in his ministry transition, his new career as an attorney, and his passion to help pastors and families feel supported during some of the most challenging times in their lives and career.
Show Notes:
Pastors in Transition Website: http://pastorsintransition.net/
Mark Fitter: You can reach Mark directly at: 949-212-5959 or markfitter@me.com
The Pilot episode of the PIT (Pastors In Transition) Podcast, gives you a short listen to what you can expect from this bi-monthly podcast. We invite you to give it a listen and pass it along to your friends and contacts who would benefit from this. Our goal is simple, we want to help pastors, families, and churches navigate the challenges of pastoral transition.