The Deconstruction Zone: Recent Episodes
Danny Lybarger
In the Deconstruction Zone, Emily and her pastor Danny will navigate the gray of following Jesus while unlearning and rethinking what they were taught about him.
Join in for lots of laughter and processing of big topics and our own stories. Whether you are currently deconstructing and want to feel like you’re not alone or want to understand where deconstructers are coming from, we hope this space will be one where we can all process and embrace the journey. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/deconstructionzone/support
This week the DZ team explores their earliest and most recent bouts with deconstructing their own faiths.
Ugh... not another group of marginally informed folks chatting about politics! But really, this week, Danny, Sadie, Kyle, and JT take an honest and vulnerable stab at discussing the sensitive intersection of faith and politics. Listen with care!
This week, Danny, JT, and Kyle help Sadie prepare for her upcoming sermon at The Well, as they unpack the topic of ecological justice and stewardship.
This week, the new DZ begins! Join Danny, Sadie, Kyle & JT for their first of many, unhinged roundtable discussions!
We all have origin stories - and depending on who you talk to - it might make you a hero or a villain! This week Danny takes a break, and Sadie is joined by J.T. for this super interesting episode of the DZ!
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This week Sadie and Danny dive into the wide topic of parenting and deconstruction. It's worth a listen whether you're a parent, kid, grandparent, or fun uncle.
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This week, Danny and Sadie explore what happens when the pain of church feels too heavy.
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Join Danny and Sadie, and they have a spirited discussion on the value, issues, and nature of small, medium, and mega-churches across the country.
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This week, Danny and Sadie unpack the burden of pastoral leadership and boundaries and answer the question, "Should Christians [and Christian leaders] have boundaries at all?"
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This week, Danny and Sadie explore the nuanced perspective around the prism of deconstruction. Both Danny and Sadie have deconstructed before becoming pastors (and have since as well!), but now they are looking at this conversation from a different vantage point. This week, they'll explore the importance of perspective and nuance in understanding deconstruction's greater meaning, impact, and experience.
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The Deconstruction Zone is officially back in action, joined by one familiar face, and one new(ish) one! For this next season of The DZ Danny will be joined by Sadie Murbarger as his new co-host! Make sure you check it out!
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This week, Danny and the fellas from The Progressive Pastor Podcast chat about life, faith, Christian lingo, and deconstruction. Check it out!
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Check out our conversation with author, pastor, and speaker Colby Martin! Colby wrote Unclobber and The Shift, two books designed to help individuals better understand the bible, faith, and how to move from closed, to inclusive theology. Listen now and enjoy!
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This week Danny is joined by Kyle and J.T. from the new Progressive Pastor Podcast. Today they'll chat about the head, the heart, and their blindspots in deconstruction. Give it a listen now!
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This week Danny explores a listener's question about whether to say where she's in ministry, or go somewhere else? Many of us wrestle with the same things in faith. Whether has a vocation, or follower of Jesus. Regardless of how we get there - it's a good question to explore! Let's all dive in together on this week's episode of the DZ!
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This week Emily is joined by a friend of the pod, Austin Lucas. Together they unpack his unique upbringing and deconstruction process and its connection to the Pentecostal church.
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This week Danny and Emily have a quick episode where they dip a toe into the concept of good, evil, and morality. Next week we have a deeper dive into morality - and we want to hear from you! Email Danny at danny@thewell636.org with your thoughts and questions about morality (or any future topic ideas!).
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This week on the DZ Emily and Danny explore the complexity of emotion, cults, Christian camp, and religion as a whole.
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Lets take a look back at the year behind us and examine all the good, bad and ugly that came with it!
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This week Emily and Danny explore how far inclusion extends and ask the question, can you lose your seat at the table?
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Sorry about the sound quality - we have a few issues, but this is a one-week issue. Also, the longer you listen, the better it sounds! Now to the topic:This week Emily raises the question, is Jesus a narcissist? If he's only a man, maybe? If he's also 100% God, Danny doesn't think it's possible. What do you think? Listen and drop your thoughts in the comments now!
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As an inclusive pastor, Danny is often told that "the blood of those he leads astray is on his hands." Whether you're a pastor, or not-religious at all - or somewhere in between - we likely all ponder the impact of our beliefs on others. This week Dustin and Danny unpack this and more!
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Have you been burnt out on Jesus & the Church? This week Dustin and Danny explore some of their experiences with that, and other thoughts on organized religion.
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Do you believe in spiritual warfare? Is it real? How do we handle it in our world today?
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This week Emily and Danny take an episode to unpack some questions from Instagram! After listening, make sure you take a moment and answer the poll on Spotify and leave us what questions you have and topics you'd like covered in the episodes to come!
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Let’s chat about indoctrination! What is is? Is it inherently bad? Is everyone kind of doing it? This and more will be unpacked on this weeks episode of The Deconstruction Zone!
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Oftentimes those deconstructing Christianity think the “correct” end is progressivism. This week two self-professing progressives deconstruct the negative impacts of both progressive and conservative theology & politics as they relate to one's faith. We don't know much, but we are positive somebody will hate this episode…
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Join us for this special halloween episode of The Deconstruction Zone!
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This week we digest 1am drunk tweets about own deconstruction! Don’t skip this one!
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This week Danny and Emily explore the relationship between secrets and boundaries. Is there a difference? Are they the same? Let’s dig in!
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Emily and Danny Join in on the LIVE UMC Communications Podcast-a-thon and chat about the topic of discipleship. Listen and learn more now!
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Danny likely tore his ACL for a second time. A friend asked him why he wasn’t praying that the injury would be healed by God, even if he thought he had torn it. So the question is, did Danny tear his ACL because he didn’t pray for a full recovery? Would God even heal him that way if he prayed for that? Should we pray like that? Or does God look at prayer differently than we do? Let’s discuss today on the Deconstruction Zone!
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What do you think about the phrase, “I’m allowed to do what’s best for me, even if it upsets people?” This week Danny and Emily process the several dynamics that go into determining good, bad, ugly, or indifferent.
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After a month of being off the Pod Emily makes her return to the Deconstruction Zone. But will her return be long-term or short-lived? Listen to find out!
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In Emily's final week on Podcast Sabbatical, Danny and Producer Dustin try something new. This week we have a crossover episode with Dustin’s personal Podcast called, Just Hit Record (go and find it anywhere you get your podcasts!).
This week's conversation revolves around finding peace. Something we all likely are striving to find!
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Have you ever asked yourself why often the worst things imaginable happen to some of the best people you know? Did God allow it? Did God cause it? And above all how do we reconcile evil and brokenness in our world - especially when it impacts the ones we love. This week Danny and producer Dustin do their best to unpack this question and more.
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Progressive Christians often say that God's sense of justice, inclusion and love is evolving. More Conservative Christians would likely disagree - stating that God is the same yesterday, today, and forever. This week Danny and Producer Dustin tackle this difficult, nuanced,, and important topic. Listen and don't forget to weigh in with your own thoughts!
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The Christian shorthand known as Christianese is often more frustrating than it is helpful. This week Danny and Producer Dustin unpack their experience and understanding of common Christian phrases as together they search for a deeper understanding.
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This week Emily & Danny dive deep into some emails and DM’s from the DZ faithful! Make sure you send any you have in as well - who knows… it may make the next email corner!
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Time to go back to school! The academic year is upon us and that means all our lives are about to shift from summer mode to academic mode. This week, Danny and Emily will be unpacking the intersection between church, school, and everything else in between.
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Have you seen the new(ish) Prime Docuseries, Shiny Happy People? We HAVE! Now it's time to unpack it. Inside we'll chat about Dating, Fundamentialism, Cults and more.fundamentalism
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Deconstructionawkwardness is a bear. Reconstruction is awkward. How do you navigate the heaviness and awkwarness of stepping back into the rubble of what you just tore apart?
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Here is the reality... Emily and Danny understand that this pod isn't for everyone. But a unique phenomenon they’ve experiences, is the well-sized portion of their audience that "hate-listen" to the podcast. That being said, whether you love, hate, or are indifferent while you listen to the pod, this episode is for you.
This week you can expect to hear a lot of nuggets about faith, deconstruction, and how to navigate tense relationships while also setting healthy boundaries in your deconstructing.
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Deconstruction can be lonely and isolating. Finding support can be difficult. So here's the question: how do you build systems and find support while deconstructing?
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This week Danny and Emily unpack the nuance and complexity of gender roles.
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Happy first birthday to The Deconstruction Zone Podcast! Here is part 2 of our B-Day Episode!
This week's episode was recorded live at Danny's annual church conference for UMC clergy and lay people in Missouri (The Missouri Annual Conference of The United Methodist Church). Danny and Emily took this unique opportunity to interview other UMC pastors to get their thoughts on the deconstruction movement.
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Happy first birthday to The Deconstruction Zone Podcast! This week's episode was recorded live at Danny's annual church conference for UMC clergy and lay people in Missouri (The Missouri Annual Conference of The United Methodist Church). Danny and Emily took this unique opportunity to interview other UMC pastors to get their thoughts on the deconstruction movement.
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This week Emily and Danny explore the concept of primary and secondary theological issues.
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Each week we get closer and closer to our 1st anniversary! This week Emily takes a much-needed vacation from the pod, while Danny and producer Dustin discuss artwork in the bathroom, Bob Godd, deep theology, and more!
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Have you ever felt like you're stuck in a spiritual wilderness? Is that a good thing? Maybe it's a bad thing? This week, Emily and Danny dive into this topic and more as we continue to explore The Deconstruction Zone.
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This week Danny and Emily discuss Emily's first 9 out of 10 outfit ratings from her students, new age beliefs, and deconstruction. A great time will be had by all.
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Whenever we read the bible we take it from our vantage point. Looking at the same story doesn't mean we all come to the same outcome. This week Emily and Danny check in, take emails and unpack the nuance of our unique perspectives when reading the bible.
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This week Emily talks about her exploration of other faith traditions in the midst of her own deconstruction of what she knows about the Christian faith.
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This week we unpack Emily getting called to the principal's office (again), and Emily's return to a PCA wedding, and how Jesus doesn't understand periods.
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This week Emily and Danny check in, briefly tackle the topic of original sin, take some emails, and end with some killer recommendations. You won't want to miss this one... it gets juicy. --- Send in a voice message: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/deconstructionzone/messageSupport this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/deconstructionzone/support
Emily and Danny take a new format for this week's episode of the DZ. Let us know your thoughts!
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This week we have a unique episode of The Deconstruction Zone as Danny & Emily travel to The University of Mount Union for their One Voice Speaker Series. Not only do these two chat about Deconstruction, but they also take some live Q&A from students that, at times can get a little bit spicy! You for sure want to give this weeks episode a listen!
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What does it mean to half-ass your faith? Can you? If so, what does it look like to whole-ass it? Find out this week with Emily and Danny on The Deconstruction Zone.
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This week Danny sits down with author Marla Taviano to chat about her experience with life, faith, and deconstruction. You can learn more about Marla and her work on Instagram by following either: @WhiteGirlLearning or @MarlaTaviano.
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With Emily out with a 101 fever, Danny and Dustin take some time to chat about Jesus' passion for the dirtbags of the world.
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This week Emily and Danny talk about a new TikTok religion called Aluna (a low-stakes religion where everything is optional). Here's the question for today: what are we missing out on by embracing an utterly optional faith?)
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We are 37 weeks into The Deconstruction Zone. This week Danny drills down and asks Emily some tough questions about where she is, how she got there, and where she hopes to be.
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Danny thinks Emily has one foot in the atheist camp and one in the Christian camp. This week they discuss why Emily is where she is, how she got there, and dip a toe into where she hopes to be.
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In the midst of deconstruction, it's hard to know when to step in and when to step back. This week Emily and Danny discuss the process of serving, engaging, and participating in the life of the church while in the midst of your deconstruction.
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This week Emily and Danny discuss their personal interactions with evangelical Christians trying to save their souls. If you've had a similar situation, you'll deeply resonate with this week's episode.
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This week Emily and Danny unpack your questions! This kind of episode will happen again - so if you have things to share, here are the best venues:
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This week Danny and Emily are joined by Carlos Fernandez of the Deconstruct Everything Podcast. These three share an honest conversation about deconstruction, losing faith in the church, colonization, race, and more. You won't regret tuning in this week for sure.
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This week Emily sits down and chats with one of the creators of The Dirty Rotton Church Kids. Deconstruction, humor, antics... it's all here... you won't want to miss it!
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This week Danny and Emily unpack the role of questions, doubts, and certainty within the journey of deconstruction. Is doubt productive, or is it a slippery slope to hell? Listen and let us know what you think!
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This week Emily turns the table on Danny and asks him to unpack how his divorce impacted him as a pastor.
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This week Dustin hops from behind the camera and joins Emily and Danny for a year-one recap of The Deconstruction Zone. They unpack some of the behind-the-scenes conversations that have led to our on-camera conversation. This week's topic... is Emily still a Chrisitan?
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What we think about God can deeply influence how we experience God. Do we think God is apathetic? Or is God inherently personal? Maybe God sits somewhere in the middle? This week Emily and Danny share a pretty honest conversation about where God is in the crap and work towards reflecting on their own relationships with God.
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This week Emily is joined by special guest Krispin Mayfield, an Oregon-based Licensed Professional Counselor, with advanced training in attachment-based therapy. Together these two dive deep into the depths of the psychology of what makes deconstruction so difficult, while also processing their personal emotions about where they currently sit in their own deconstruction.
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Deconstruction does not come without some level of grieving and loss. Whether it's friends, families, churches, or certainty - we all likely are grieving the loss of something or someone. This week Emily and Danny walk through each step as they relate to the deconstruction journey.
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This week Emily processes the misguided help that often comes from her former church friends and family. How do you handle when those who used to be closest to you now think you're on a one-way path to hell? It's a difficult path and conversation, but Danny and Emily try their best to process in real-time.
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Some pastors say that deconstructing is a slap in the face of Jesus. Danny and Emily would politely disagree. This week they dive into some healthy conversation around the idea of God's hope for us, and how Jesus might view deconstruction if he was around today.
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There is a lot of conversation around the negative ramifications of purity culture on emerging generations. Was it helpful? Is it biblical? All of that and more will be discussed this week on the Deconstruction Zone.
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Mark Driscoll. Matt Chandler. Steven Furtick. The list goes on! But here is the question... what role do deconstructionists play in dismantling the megachurch machine as we know it?
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This week Emily takes a break, while Danny dives into a conversation with Rabbi Joshua Stanton. Together they talk about the Old Testament, Pain, Scripture, and interfaith work. What more could you ask for?!
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Churches, non-profits, schools, and many other religious institutions have led to Christians into seasons of deconstruction. This week Danny and Emily dive into personal stories and unpack the pain, trauma, and path they've taken in deconstructing religious institutions.
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To wrap up Season 3, Danny and Emily chat about how we handle pain and suffering while in the midst of deconstruction? Together Emily shares her current struggles as she and Danny digest the role of suffering in deconstruction.
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At the baseline of today's conversation is the Holy Spirit. Emily is skeptical, and Danny appreciates the mystery. Together they construct a scaffolding around who, what, and where The Holy Spirit is.
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Danny and Emily sit down with the creator of The New Evangelicals. Together, Tim, Danny, and Emily process a myriad of topics ranging from race, COVID-19, deconstruction, and more. This is a conversation you won't want to miss! You can learn more about The New Evangelicals at: www.thenewevangelicals.com.
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Forgiveness is a sticky topic. We know Jesus challenges us to extend forgiveness to others, but how do we extend forgiveness when we are still in pain? This week Emily and Danny do their best to unpack and sprinkle in some much needed humor to this extraordinarily complex and emotional topic.
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Depening on who you talk to, you will likely get a variety of answers regarding how long is a healthy amount of time to sit in deconstruction. This week Danny and Emily discuss the unique season of deconstruction, and provide permission to take all the time you need.
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It seems like the deconstruction movement really took off in the midst of COVID-19. Is that a coincidence or are the two related? This week Emily and Danny chat about what role COVID-19 played in catalyzing the movement we now know as deconstruction.
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To wrap up Season 2, Danny calls back his 2020 podcast, Hot Thoughts! Spicy Wings & Even Spicier Questions! You won't wanna miss this one! (Bonus: If you wanna check out old Hot Thoughts Episodes... watch here: (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC2o4j6R6GxJzEE-5fiRYhng)
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Almost 2 full seasons in, we've realized that deconstruction can start from any place, and move in many different directions. This week Danny and Emily discuss the mechanics of deconstruction, and how they can be create a new found religious freedom.
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Danny is a Pastor. Emily is Preacher. Our Deconstruction Zone hosts are deeply involved in church, so what do they think about the relationship between deconstruction & the Church? Listen now and find out!
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Are you a sinner because you sin or do you sin because you're a sinner? This week we dive into part 2 of Emily and Danny's discussion around sin, as they make an attempt to find their individual and collective identities in the middle of the mess that we call sin.
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In this week's episode of The Deconstruction Zone, Emily and Danny dive into part 1 of their conversation around sin, brokenness & how that fits into the deconstruction process.
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Should the good news be traumatic? How does your trauma inform your faith? To kick off season 2, Emily & Danny will be unpacking the intersection between religious trauma, and how that impact our understanding of the Gospel.
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That's a wrap for Season 1 of The Deconstruction Zone! To put a bow on season 1, Emily & Danny process the cost of deconstruction and discuss how that cost is deeply tied to our journey of discipleship.
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This week Danny and Emily process through what healthy boundaries look like for someone walking the road of deconstruction.
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Who should be included in the Church? Who would Jesus invite to the table? Is the Church of today in line with what Jesus would want? This week Emily and Danny deconstruct their understanding of inclusion and exclusion within the life of the Church.
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This week Emily & Danny dive in and process how they've personally deconstructed theological certainty, Christian apologetics, and more.
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This week Danny & Emily dive into the topic of The Bible. Can we deconstruct my understanding of it? Is it inherent? Does it even need to be? This week has lots of laughs, but even more substance around this often difficult topic.
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Deconstruction is a journey. To kick the podcast off, Danny and Emily will dive into what deconstruction is, why it's valuable, and how Emily is processing her spirituality in the midst of deconstruction.
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