Inside Rehabilitation Counseling: Recent Episodes
Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification
The Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification presents "Inside Rehabilitation Counseling," a series of conversations with the professionals, educators, and thought-leaders working in the specialized field of rehabilitation counseling that focuses on services for individuals with disabilities.
Dr. Sabrina Taylor, LPC (DC), CRC, CWIP is the founder of Benefits Understood Counseling Services and has spent time in many of the work settings CRCs are most commonly employed.
Dr. Taylor joins the show this episode to discuss a recent publication on the CRCC website about CRCs working in the legal space. She also details her journey to begin her own practice and gives insight into what makes a CRC a good fit for working with attorneys and providing expert testimony.
Links to Follow Dr. Taylor's Work
Benefits Understood Website
LinkedIn Profile
SEAK Expert Witness Profile
Read Dr. Taylor's article on the CRCC blog here.
CRCC Links
CRCC Website
TikTok
We are in the process of a broad awareness campaign that highlights CRCs in their own words. We've seen videos and other testimonials as part of this campaign, driving CRCC's reach and engagement on social media and on our website to all-time highs. And we cannot do this without CRCs who take the time to tell us about their work and why it matters.
Dr. Abigail Akande is a CRC and tenured associate professor of rehabilitation and human services at Penn State Abington. She submitted testimony on our behalf, which led to a conversation about several pressing matters in the disability and rehabilitation counseling fields. From better defining the role of rehabilitation services to examining how we advocate not only locally but also internationally, Dr. Akande approaches rehabilitation counseling in a way that is both educational and impactful.
Visit Dr. Akande's website here.
Help grow awareness for CRCs by clicking here to learn about CRCC's awareness efforts!
Advocacy Links mentioned by Dr. Akande:
https://evidence2impact.psu.edu/
www.Results.org
CRCC Links
CRCC Website
TikTok
For many professionals who find this field, an interest in mental health is what draws them toward a deeper understanding of the full disability spectrum. The education and training to become a CRC incorporates mental health, but goes much deeper into the ways in which mental health impacts things like life and work, as well as other disabilities one might be experiencing.
Meaghan Flaherty is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor with Path Forward Counseling and Creative Wellness, and she is currently completing an advanced certificate in mental health counseling at the University of Rochester. As you'll hear in our discussion, Megan's story is a lot like many CRCs. She had an idea of what she wanted to study, tried a few different paths, and was then recommended a master's rehabilitation counseling program that really felt like it stuck for her.
Meaghan sees significant value and mindfulness for rehabilitation counseling services, as well as an intentional approach to engaging the whole person through leisure activities and passions outside of work to support employment goals.
Learn more about Path Forward Counseling here.
CRCC Links
CRCC Website
TikTok
The need for strong transition education and services is rooted in a broader cultural and public commitment to equity, access, and full community participation for people with disabilities. In the United States, youth with disabilities continue to experience disproportionately lower rates of employment, postsecondary enrollment, and independent living compared to their peers without disabilities. These gaps are not simply individual challenges—they reflect systemic barriers in education, workforce access, and community inclusion.
A task like tackling structured supports for students requires many bright minds, and Utah State University is taking an interdisciplinary approach with their new Transition Education and Services Emphasis.
Dr. Kathleen Oertle, is a CRC and Associate Professor in the Department of Special Education and Rehabilitation Counseling at Utah State University. She’s joined on this episode by Dr. Cassandra McCall, who is an Assistant Professor in the Department of Engineering Education. Kat and Cass, as they both like to go by, are the co-principal investigators for Utah State’s new Transition Education and Services Emphasis. As one of five grantees in the Rehabilitation Services Administration’s Comprehensive System of Personnel Development competition, this program is helping shift the narrative from limitation to opportunity for students with disabilities pursuing their goals.
More Information about the Transition Education and Services Emphasis
Dr. Oertle's Bio
https://cehs.usu.edu/sperc/directory/oertle-kathleen
https://www.usu.edu/experts/profile/kathleen-oertle/
Dr. McCall's Bio
https://engineering.usu.edu/eed/people/faculty/mccall-cassandra
https://www.usu.edu/experts/profile/cassandra-mccall/
CRCC Links
CRCC Website
TikTok
The transition from high school to college is tricky in general and involves a lot of adaptation and changes to routines, support systems, and structures. For students with disabilities, losing structured support provided by an IEP or 504 plan can make an already daunting transition more difficult.
We’re not talking about just a handful of isolated cases either; the National Center for Education Statistics reports that nearly 1 in 5 college students has a disability, and despite 88% of postsecondary institutions reporting enrolling students with disabilities, only 24% of faculty receive training on accommodating these students.
Elena Wisniewski is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor who started a business to address the gap that exists between high school and college. As the Founder and Lead Strategist for Equipped Transitions, Elena directs clinical documentation audits for college-bound students with disabilities, helping them navigate the transition from IDEA to ADA to ensure institutional compliance and student access.
In our conversation, Elena explains how self-advocacy and understanding accommodations, inside and out, are crucial to a student’s success. Not to mention the ways in which CRCs are equipped to help students and their support systems prepare for all that’s ahead in this exciting next chapter.
Helpful Links for Equipped Transitions
Equipped Transitions Website
Across organizations and agencies, disability services are reaching peak demand. The Case for Inclusion 2026 report finds that turnover for professionals working with disabled clients is the lowest it has been since 2014, and wages and employment rates are rising for individuals with disabilities. Despite this, funding for private and public programs across the United States is in question.
How does this make sense? Well, it really doesn’t, and the threat isn’t just to services and programs – it’s to the well-being of the individuals with disabilities who depend on them.
Aliza Hauser is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor and Certified Vocational Evaluator, and the Program Director for the Neurological Vocational Services Unit at the University of Washington Medical Center. Aliza laid out a case for sustained investment in these programs during our conversation, as well as for CRCs as a natural fit for human resources departments across public and private organizations.
Learn more about NVSU at the UW Medical Center here.
Nobody gets more questions here at CRCC than our Certification Department. Certification Supervisor Jen Marcu works with her team to answer questions, clarify steps in the certification process, and connect with thousands of certificants and future CRCs across the US every week.
Jen returns as our guest this week, and we will explore some of the questions she hears most from CRCs and CVEs that are set to renew their certification.
We made a list of the top 10 most frequently asked questions about the renewal process and requirements and tackled them one by one, hopefully helping any of you out there preparing to stay certified!
Helpful Links Discussed in Today's Episode:
CRC Renewal Guide
CVE Renewal Guide
The Center for Independence of the Disabled, New York (CIDNY), founded in 1978, is a Manhattan-based non-profit organization advocating for the civil rights and independence of New Yorkers with disabilities. In 2024, CIDNY served over 40,000 consumers, connecting them to community programs and prodiving peer-support to address the challenges of living with a disability in a major metropolitan area.
Our guest for this episode is Sara Schacter-Erenburg, CRC, Director of Vocational Employment Rehabilitation, who aptly quoted the Liam Neeson film Taken when describing that she sees CRCs as having a very particular set of skills. In our conversation, we highlighted the work of her and her peers at CIDNY and talk about the ways in which many of the challenges facing people with disabilities today make CRCs more vital than ever.
During the week this episode is releasing, we observe Veterans Day, and as we all know, military service and the veteran community are the bedrock of how rehabilitation counseling came to be. Many Certified Rehabilitation Counselors themselves are veterans or have close ties to the veteran community, including those who directly work with individuals to find employment and navigate their return to civilian life. Julianne Hansen is the Founder and CEO of Team Hansen Education and Empowerment. Much of Julianne’s work has focused on showing the veteran community that they are supported. As a CRC with a disability and spouse to a permanently disabled veteran, Julianne has a unique perspective on the support necessary to help this population thrive, and it begins with meeting each person where they are.
Since the late 1970s, the Pittsburgh Public School system has hired Certified Rehabilitation Counselors to provide services for students with disabilities, ranging from ensuring accommodations are in place to providing transition services that prepare them for life after high school. The National Center for Education Statistics reports that 7.5 million, or 15% of all public school students, receive special education services. Because these services are so vital, Pittsburgh Public Schools prioritizes ensuring that qualified, highly trained professionals deliver them by hiring Certified Rehabilitation Counselors as part of the interdisciplinary team working in the special education program at their schools. One of those CRCs is our guest for this episode.
Crystal Evans is the Transition Coordinator for Pittsburgh Public Schools and has been with the school system for 18 years. Crystal spoke with me about the impact transition services make on not only students with disabilities and their families, but also the community. You’ll also hear some thoughts on how employer outreach can help destigmatize hiring individuals with disabilities, and a few success stories that point to the importance of ensuring every student has this quality of professionalism and service.
According to the World Health Organization, around 50 million people worldwide have epilepsy, making it one of the most common neurological disorders globally. One of the challenges of epilepsy is that folks experiencing the disorder can’t always get a precise diagnosis. On top of that, many people misunderstand epilepsy, leading to stigma and a lack of public awareness of how to help someone experiencing a seizure. That’s where organizations like the Epilepsy Foundation of Georgia come in.
The Epilepsy Foundation of Georgia serves over 110,000 residents facing epilepsy and seizure disorders, and Dr. Courtney Dean, the Director of Programming, is our guest for this episode. As a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor, Courtney utilizes her skills and training to oversee statewide programming and outreach initiatives, serving as a prime example of how CRCs can leverage their expertise in leadership positions to drive change for individuals with disabilities.
Helpful Links:
Epilepsy Foundation of Georgia Socials
Secure First Aid Training (Seizure First Aid) | Epilepsy Foundation
There are two ways to get certified in Seizure First Aid:
- On-demand, at your own pace
- Live, instructor-led, offered virtually or in person
Certification is available through the Epilepsy Foundation national website or by contacting your local Epilepsy Foundation affiliate.
An increasing amount of research is exploring the connection between work and wellness. This includes mental wellness and physical health, both of which can be positively impacted by having employment, particularly for those navigating a disability. Simply put, work is more than just a means to earn a living or spend a significant portion of your week.
For veterans who return to work after service, it can be tricky in general. When you combine the return to civilian life with a disability, it’s important to have the right people in your corner helping you to navigate that transition. On this episode, I had a conversation with three individuals who have meaningful insight into serving veterans. You’ll hear from:
Monnie Rebecca Waltz, BS, MRC, VE, CRC - Program Manager in Vocational Rehabilitation at the Cincinnati VA Medical Center
Christopher Briggman, MRC, CRC, CVE, LCMHC, LPC - a CRC and Vocational Expert who previously worked for the VA, now runs two practices, Balance Consulting & Counseling, and Adjusted Ability Vocational Group
Keith Hosey - Supervisory Vocational Rehabilitation Specialist at the Robley Rex VA Medical Center.
References to Research Mention in Today's Episdode:
Large meta-analyses of the available research has provided support for the conclusions that (1) unemployment leads to decline in mental and physical health and increased risk of suicide, and (2) re-employment leads to significant improvements in these states (McKee-Ryan et al., 2005; Paul & Moser, 2009).
Findings from (Kukla 2012) demonstrate Working clients had fewer days of hospitalization, and had greater reduction in negative symptomsthan non-working clients.
(Burns 2014) found Those who worked had better global functioning, fewer symptoms, less social disability; greater job tenure was associated with better functioning.
(Elbogen 2020) found that Veterans lacking money to cover basic needs (food, clothes, shelter, transportation, medical care) had triple the risk of endorsing suicidal ideation compared to Veterans with money to cover basic needs (22% versus 7%).
Other research examining Veterans and homelessness shows that peak risk of suicide occurs just prior to eviction (Culhane et al., 2019).
In research findings by (Abraham 2022), employment was associated with 45.9% lower suicide risk in the year following discharge from VR.
Since the early 1980s, Community Partnerships has worked to create new opportunities for people with intellectual and developmental disabilities. Serving over 1,100 people a year, their cross-functional team includes job coaches, consultants, trainers, and of course, Certified Rehabilitation Counselors – two of whom I had the pleasure to talk to for this episode of the podcast.
Lindsay Prenoveau, Community Partnership’s Brain Injury Support Services Program Manager, and Rachel Weber, a Cognitive Rehabilitation Therapist, walked me through the ways in which their organization prioritizes individual-tailored care and case management, as well as the strategy of educating the public on the impact of Cognitive Rehabilitation.
Helpful Links Mentioned in Today's Episode:
https://www.communitypartnerships.org/
Blog: https://www.communitypartnerships.org/category/cr-corner/
Facebook and Instagram: @communitypartnershipsnc
BlueSky: @cpinc.bsky.social
Nobody gets more questions here at CRCC than our Certification Department. Certification Supervisor Jen Marcu works with her team to answer questions, clarify steps in the process, and connect with thousands of certificants and future CRCs across the US.
Jen is our guest this week, and we will explore some of the questions she hears most from students and test-takers. We made a list of the top 10 most frequently asked questions about the CRC Exam and tackled them one by one to hopefully help any of you out there preparing for test day.
Helpful Links Discussed in Today's Episode:
CRC Certification Guide
CRC Exam Overview and Knowledge Domains
Exam Prep Resources
Traumatic Brain Injury is the leading cause of death and disability worldwide, with an estimated 5.3 million Americans living today with the disability. Of all types of injury, those to the brain are among the most likely to result in death or permanent disability, making research and a deep understanding of how to navigate services for those impacted by TBI vital.
Shannon Juengst, PhD, CRC, is a Senior Scientist and Clinical Investigator at TIRR Memorial Hermann and an Adjunct Associate Professor of PM&R at UT Houston Health Sciences Center.
On this episode of the Inside Rehabilitation Counseling podcast, Dr. Juengst shares insights into her work, including why it’s crucial to keep research human and where Certified Rehabilitation Counselors need to expand their TBI knowledge to be effective team rehabilitation team members.
Helpful Resources
TBI Fact Sheets: https://msktc.org/tbi/factsheets
Brain Injury Association of America Resource Center: https://biausa.org/brain-injury
Dr. Juengst's Bibliography: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/myncbi/shannon.juengst.1/bibliography/public/
At the University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, the Illinois Institute for Rehabilitation and Employment Research (IIRER) is a hub for innovation and discovery that addresses vocational behavior, community integration, career development, and employment. Partnering with communities in Illinois and around the world, IIRER is continuously innovating ways to enhance the skills of rehabilitation professionals.
On June 20th, the institute will host its Symposium on Mental Health and Work, providing a unique opportunity for professionals in Illinois and surrounding areas to enhance their knowledge and skills in serving clients with mental health and other health conditions.
The intersection of mental health, work, and disability is a crucial area for researchers and practitioners. Dr. Xiaolei Tang and Dr. David Strauser took the time to share some information about the Symposium and indicate why this type of training is crucial to improving clinical practices.
Register for the 2025 IIRER Symposium on Mental Health and Work on June 20th here.
Joseph Young is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor, an LRC in Massachusetts, and owner of JOSEPH YOUNG CONSULTING, L.L.C.
In this conversation, Joe shares his perspective on the importance of credentials, his journey with an invisible disability, and how CRCs who want to start their own private practice can begin their journey to working for themselves.
Link to Joseph's Business Website: https://josephyoungconsulting.com/
CRCC Job Board: https://crccertification.com/joblisting/current-job-postings/
If you are interested in submitting a position to the CRCC Job Board, please click here.
Pietrina Probst is a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor and Director of ADA, Student Access & Disability Services at Elgin Community College. In this conversation, Pietrina shares insights into the unique considerations community colleges consider in providing disability services and why cross-departmental collaboration is a blueprint for success in expanding services for students with disabilities.
Elgin Community College Student Access & Disability Services webpage
Elgin Community College Accessibility webpage
Information on Northern Illinois University Being a CRCC Center of Excellence
Taylor talks to Charles McCaffrey, MBA, and Genia Hachenberg, CRC, MS at the Paralyzed Veterans of America about their Veterans Career Program. The program employs CRCs located all over the country to provide free employment support and vocational counseling assistance to all veterans, transitioning service members, spouses, and caregivers.
Learn more about the PVA's Veterans Career Program.
Share your story or invite a client to share a story about working with a CRC here.
In this preview of the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Taylor talks to Charles McCaffrey, MBA, and Genia Hachenberg, CRC, MS at the Paralyzed Veterans of America about their Veterans Career Program. The program employs CRCs located all over the country to provide free employment support and vocational counseling assistance to all veterans, transitioning service members, spouses, and caregivers. Look forward to the full episode next week!
On this episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Sarah Price Hancock joins us to discuss her journey as a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor. Following a misdiagnosis of “treatment resistant” mental illness, Sarah received 116 bilateral electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) treatments resulting in Delayed Electrical Injury’s Myoneural Disorder.
Sarah joins us to share her journey to becoming a CRC and provides important insights into treatment for ECT recipients as well as why frameworks like Emotional Self Reliance can be transformative for individuals with disabilities.
Show Notes:
Sarah's San Diego Union-Tribune Op-Ed
The Neuro-Optometric Rehabilitation Providers
Daring to Dream: Essential tools to find employment (Workbook)
The Ionic Injury Foundation
Needs Assessment Survey of ECT Recipient Experiences and the Experiences of their Families and Friends
Survey Flyer to Print
The Emotional Self-Reliance Podcast
Sarah's X profile
Sarah's YouTube channel
In this preview of the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Sarah Price Hancock joins us to discuss her journey as a Certified Rehabilitation Counselor. Following a misdiagnosis of “treatment resistant” mental illness, Sarah received 116 bilateral electroconvulsive therapy (ECT) treatments resulting in Delayed Electrical Injury’s Myoneuroal Disorder.
Sarah joins us to share her journey to becoming a CRC and provides important insights into treatment for ECT recipients as well as why frameworks like Emotional Self Reliance can be transformative for individuals with disabilities.
Certified Rehabilitation Counselors can explore a wide variety of job settings thanks to their credential. With many options and areas of focus available to them, CRCs can find themselves stuck while considering where they want their career to take them. The most common question we hear from CRCs is how do I navigate my options in private practice?
Dr. Aaron Mertes is a CRC and professor at the University of Montana Billings. On the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, hear about Dr. Mertes' career, and learn about why he recently wrote and self-published a book on career paths, options, and opportunities in private rehabilitation counseling.
You can purchase Dr. Mertes' book here: https://aaronmertes.com/
Certified Rehabilitation Counselors can explore a wide variety of job settings thanks to their credential. With many options and areas of focus available to them, CRCs can find themselves stuck while considering where they want their career to take them. The most common question we hear from CRCs is how do I navigate my options in private practice?
Dr. Aaron Mertes is a CRC and professor at the University of Montana Billings. On the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, hear about Dr. Mertes' career, and learn about why he recently wrote and self-published a book on career paths, options, and opportunities in private rehabilitation counseling.
Hear the full episode later this week!
The Certified Vocational Evaluator certification, or CVE, is a high-demand specialty within rehabilitation counseling. CVEs possess unique, comprehensive, and holistic proficiencies in evaluation, career assessment services, and job placement cases. The CRC-CVE dual certification can also provide clients and employers with higher success rates and overall better client outcomes.
Lisa Byrne was instrumental in the revitalization of the CVE certification under CRCC, and on this episode, she shares with us the scope of the specialization and why it’s important for clients and employers.
Learn more about the CVE Certification and apply for the February 2024 cohort here: https://crccertification.com/cve-get-certified/
On the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, we explore the Certified Vocational Evaluation Specialist (CVE) credential and how it compliments the CRC in serving individuals with disabilities. Our guest is Lisa Byrne, MA, CRC, CVE, LCPC, an integral reason that the CVE was revitalized as a credential for rehabilitation counseling professionals.
The value of the CRC credential is a common topic of conversation on Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, and Ryan Bruce, Director of Client Solutions at New York Life Insurance knows it well.
At New York Life Insurance, Ryan has worked in long-term disability claims, stay-at-work programs, and now his role is to tell the story of how the 45 CRCs on staff strive every day to help people navigate short or long-term disability. Ryan says the same disability accommodations that employers struggled with a decade ago are still challenges they're encountering today, and having a CRC in an organization can alleviate a lot of the uncertainty and help businesses support their employees in the best way possible.
The value of the CRC credential is a common topic of conversation on Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, and Ryan Bruce, Director of Client Solutions at New York Life Insurance knows it well.
At New York Life Insurance, Ryan has worked in long-term disability claims, stay-at-work programs, and now his role is to tell the story of how the 45 CRCs on staff strive every day to help people navigate short or long-term disability. Ryan says the same disability accommodations that employers struggled with a decade ago are still challenges they're encountering today, and having a CRC in an organization can alleviate a lot of the uncertainty and help businesses support their employees in the best way possible.
Stay tuned for the full episode next week!
One of the most well-known companies in the world, The Walt Disney Company, has long been a case study for exceptional return-to-work procedures thanks to their Transitional Duty Program. Melannie Rodriguez, Senior Vocational Rehabilitation Specialist for the Walt Disney Company, is a CRC who just recently celebrated her 23rd anniversary in Orlando at Walt Disney World.
On this episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Melannie shares her career pathway to becoming a Cast Member at Disney and how her knowledge as a CRC helps ensure every employee at Walt Disney World Resorts can continue working through their rehabilitation.
One of the most well-known companies in the world, The Walt Disney Company, has long been a case study for exceptional return-to-work procedures thanks to their Transitional Duty Program. Melannie Rodriguez, Senior Vocational Rehabilitation Specialist for the Walt Disney Company, is a CRC who just recently celebrated her 23rd anniversary in Orlando at Walt Disney World.
On the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Melannie shares her career pathway to becoming a Cast Member at Disney and how her knowledge as a CRC helps ensure every employee at Walt Disney World Resorts can continue working through their rehabilitation.
The field of rehabilitation counseling was legislated into existence over 100 years ago. As you can imagine, some elements of the profession have changed quite a bit since its inception. Dr. Kate Kline spends time in both the classroom and private practice to keep up with all adapting elements of the field to best prepare students for what's ahead.
In this episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Dr. Kline explains why she introduces herself as a "counselor, but mainly a servant." Dr. Kline explains her background, shares insights on virtual counseling, and the ways in which competitive hiring practices are shifting where CRCs work.
The field of rehabilitation counseling was legislated into existence over 100 years ago. As you can imagine, some elements of the profession have changed quite a bit since its inception. Dr. Kate Kline spends time in both the classroom and private practice to keep up with all adapting elements of the field to best prepare students for what's ahead.
In this preview of the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Dr. Kline explains why she introduces herself as a "counselor, but mainly a servant." Tune in to the full episode next week as Dr. Kline explains her background, shares insights on virtual counseling, and the ways in which competitive hiring practices are shifting where CRCs work.
Where can CRCs work in the private sector? It's a question that crosses many newly certified rehabilitation counselors' minds. Dr. James McNeil, PhD, CRC, NCC spent a good portion of his career working for Lowe's, Prudential Financial, and Amazon before becoming an educator.
In this episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Dr. McNeil puts it plainly: "wherever people with disabilities are, that's where CRCs need to be." Hear some of Dr. McNeil's insights into his time in the private sector and how CRCs can become "pioneers of the profession" to pave new career paths. From search terms to seek out in job openings and how to use your knowledge as a CRC to advocate for your expertise, we hope you enjoy this discussion.
Where can CRCs work in the private sector? It's a question that crosses many newly certified rehabilitation counselors' minds. Dr. James McNeil, PhD, CRC, NCC spent a good portion of his career working for Lowe's, Prudential Financial, and Amazon before becoming an educator.
In this preview of the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Dr. McNeil puts it plainly: "wherever people with disabilities are, that's where CRCs need to be." Tune in to the full episode next week for Dr. McNeil's insights into his time in the private sector and how CRCs can become "pioneers of the profession" to pave new career paths.
In the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Kyle Walker, MRC, CRC, CRL, CPM & Russ Thelin, M.S., LVRC, CRC, CRL, speak with CRCC Executive Director Pam Shlemon about the National Training Center for Transformational Rehabilitation Leadership Program (TRL) a collaborative partnership between the Institute for Community Inclusion at UMASS Boston, the University of Wisconsin-Stout and the Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification.
Kyle and Russ talk about the need to redefine leadership in rehabilitation counseling, and how the CRL certification will shape the next 100 years of the profession.
In the next episode of Inside Rehabilitation Counseling, Kyle Walker, MRC, CRC, CRL, CPM & Russ Thelin, M.S., LVRC, CRC, CRL, speak with CRCC Executive Director Pam Shlemon about the National Training Center for Transformational Rehabilitation Leadership Program (TRL) a collaborative partnership between the Institute for Community Inclusion at UMASS Boston, the University of Wisconsin-Stout and the Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification.
Kyle and Russ talk about the need to redefine leadership in rehabilitation counseling, and how the CRL certification will shape the next 100 years of the profession.
In the first episode of this new podcast from The Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification (CRCC), Dr. Susan Sherman speaks with CRCC Executive Director Pam Shlemon about her career in rehabilitation counseling. Dr. Sherman's insights stem from all chapters of her professional life, including time running a State VR Agency, running a rehabilitation counseling program at East Carolina University, and her time as President of the CRCC Board of Directors.
In the first episode of this new podcast from The Commission on Rehabilitation Counselor Certification (CRCC), Dr. Susan Sherman speaks with CRCC Executive Director Pam Shlemon about her career in rehabilitation counseling. Dr. Sherman's insights stem from all chapters of her professional life, including time running a State VR Agency, running a rehabilitation counseling program at East Carolina University, and her time as President of the CRCC Board of Directors.