Feeling Beings Who Think: Recent Episodes

Arianne Rice

I host intentional conversations on how we live, move, and have our being in the world. With a focus on how our careers and callings have been shaped by who we’ve been and are becoming. Our experiences are different - yet - when we share our stories we will find points of resonance, support, learnings, and wisdom worth thinking and talking about. Thanks for listening!

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A season-closing reflection on leadership as the work all of us are called to do in service of our emotional and spiritual growth as human beings. In this episode you will come away with:

  • A reframing of leadership beyond roles, titles, and approval
  • Why emotional maturity is central to effective leadership
  • A real story about holding anxiety, conflict, and disappointment without fixing or avoiding
  • An invitation to reflect on where your leadership is asking you to grow and celebrate where you've grown.

Thanks for listening - and for the work you do in the world.

Connect with me at www.ariannerice.com

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Good facilitators are attuned to the anxiety present in any room. Great facilitators understand that anxiety is energy waiting to be transformed into curiosity and engagement in service of growth and learning.

In this episode, I’m joined by Meg Bolger, a facilitator’s facilitator and the creator of Facilitator Cards. Together, we explore facilitation isn’t just for workshops and brainstorming meetings, but in everyday leadership that cares about making room for being human in spaces where we hope to hold honest, meaningful, and sometimes challenging conversations.

Meg shares practical insights and clear do’s and don’ts for skillful facilitation, offering tools to help you design meetings and gatherings that truly support the purpose and goals of the group.

And yes these skills apply just as much to worship and other sacred or meaningful gatherings (I’m talking to you, my clergy friends).

You’ll come away with:

  • How to move beyond open-ended questions and structure participation so more voices are heard
  • Why group size and simple materials are powerful levers for engagement (in person and online)
  • How trust is built before the meeting even starts through clarity, logistics, and care for people’s experience

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Guest Bio:

Meg Bolger has spent over a decade teaching people how to facilitate meaningful, inclusive group experiences. She specializes in foundational facilitation skills and practical processes that help groups think, decide, and connect more effectively.

Learn more about Meg’s work and Facilitator Cards: https://facilitator.cards

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It's hard working with volunteers! You're thrilled they are giving their time and talents to support the mission and you have to support them in how to best help you. Volunteer-based systems create a unique leadership dynamic: you are accountable with the very people you lead. Without clear structures, this often leads to over-functioning, unproductive meetings, and burnout.

In this episode, you’ll explore:* Why working with volunteers requires a different leadership posture * How over-functioning shows up in nonprofit and church leadership * A five-discipline framework for coaching your board or vestry as a team * How clarity and connection can reduce burnout and build shared accountability

If you lead in a volunteer-driven organization and want a steadier, more sustainable way forward, this episode offers a framework you can apply immediately.

Click here for more information on the lay retreat and clergy retreat I'll be leading in the Episcopal Diocese of Newark in February and March 2026.

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You are part of a system. A network of relationships at work, at home and in the world. What does it mean to lead knowing these are all living systems that you influence and are influenced by?

Today I'm speaking with leadership and team coach and coach supervisor Judy Wolf about how groups clarify purpose, navigate discomfort, build trust, and learn together over time. Judy shares a practical five-part framework for leading within complex nonprofit, faith-based, and community systems grounded in presence, awareness, and what happens between people.

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Bio - Judy Wolf

Judy Wolf is an executive and team coach and coach supervisor, holding advanced accreditations from both the ICF and EMCC. She partners with heart-centered, service-driven leaders and organizations to strengthen trust, collaboration, and systemic effectiveness across boards, staff, and communities. Judy brings experience across Fortune 100 companies, government agencies, and nonprofit organizations, and serves on the board of Coaching for Social Justice. Her work blends emotional, social, and somatic intelligence, informed by mindfulness, neuroscience, facilitation, and mediation.

You can connect with Judy on LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/judywolf1/) or learn more about her work at https://judywolf.com/.

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Your relationship with time and attention are dictating how you use these gifts in service of all you do. Have you asked yourself the important question: What has shaped my relationship with time?

In this short reflection I share the value of exploring time and attention as relational gifts, not scarce commodities, and to notice how urgency, fear, and values quietly shape the decisions you’re making.

  • Learn to reframe time and attention as relational, not transactional
  • Gain insight into how urgency and scarcity influence decisions
  • Takeaway a simple reflective writing practice to support your ability to make choices from a place of alignment, instead of pressure

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Today I'm speaking with leadership strategist, coach, and writer Jennifer England, host of the podcast The Tension of Emergence. Jennifer joined me from her home in the Yukon, and we explored how wild landscapes, deep silence, and contemplative practice have shaped her leadership, her spirituality, and the way she supports social change makers.

Together we talk about:

  • What “emergence” really means in our lives, leadership, and spiritual work
  • Why unpredictability, friction, and tension are often the catalysts for real transformation
  • Our cultural obsession with mastery and control—and what becomes possible when we loosen our grip
  • The inner capacities that allow leaders to stay present, grounded, and connected
  • How core agreements and belonging create healthier, more courageous communities and teams

This conversation invites you to notice what might be taking shape in your own life, not fully formed, not planned, but quietly emerging. My hope is that it helps you meet that unfolding with curiosity, courage, and a bit more spaciousness.

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👉 A simple practice of building core agreements is outlined here.

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Bio: Jennifer EnglandJennifer England equips leaders and teams to pursue soul-aligned missions for the collective good.

A Master Integral Coach™, Executive Team Coach and skilled facilitator, she works with high-performing leaders to expand their impact and fulfillment. Known for cultivating adaptability and emergent collaboration, Jennifer helps leadership teams thrive amid uncertainty and change.

In 2019, she founded Spark Coaching + Consulting to bring together her passion for inner development, leadership, and systems change. Previously, she spent two decades as an executive public servant and non-profit leader advancing gender equality and human rights across Canada.

Jennifer is also the host of the Tension of Emergence podcast, where she convenes artists, philosophers, scientists, and spiritual teachers to explore transformation and systems change. She writes biweekly on Substack, and is a committed student of Zen, founder of the Wisdom North meditation collective and a life-long back-country adventurer. She is also the mother of two wild and wonderful soon-to-be adulting teens.

Links: Website: www.jenniferengland.coSubstack: https://jengland.substack.com/IG: https://www.instagram.com/sparkcoaching/LinkedIN: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennifer-england-7515b440/

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If you’re someone who prepares for the worst, rehearses every potential disaster, or believes that thinking through every negative outcome will keep you safe then this episode is for you.

I share two simple coaching practices to help you focus on what you can actually influence, release what you can’t, and meet uncertainty with more ease. Because the unknown isn’t only a place of fear it’s also where are led to surprise, delight, and wonder.

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👉 The simple practice of building your container is outlined here.

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Today I'm speaking with author and psychotherapist Estelle Frankel to talk about one of the most paradoxical spiritual truths: that wisdom grows when we allow ourselves not to know.

Estelle shares insights from her book The Wisdom of Not Knowing, weaving together depth psychology, Kabbalah, Buddhism, and the simple human longing to grow into who we’re becoming. We talk about:

  • Why uncertainty is not a threat but a doorway into wonder
  • The spiritual and psychological “octaves” of not knowing
  • How asking better questions can reshape your leadership and inner life
  • What depth psychology and mysticism reveal about change, fear, and resilience
  • The dangers of spiritual bypassing and why our parts deserve compassion
  • How trust, hope, and curiosity help us navigate upheaval
  • The powerful question: What is the question your life might be an answer to?

Estelle’s wisdom is tender, surprising, humbling, and full of depth. This is a conversation for anyone living through ambiguity, transition, or calling.

Resources & Links:

  • The Wisdom of Not Knowing by Estelle Frankel
  • More about Estelle: EstelleFrankel.com

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👉 The simple practice of building your container is outlined here.

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Chapters

00:00 — Opening & Welcome
04:33 — Estelle’s Story and Background
07:50 — Certainty, Crisis, and Becoming
10:40 — Living with Uncertainty
13:01 — Listening and Beginner’s Mind
14:59 — Psychology, Spirituality & Integration
18:45 — The Stages of Not Knowing
21:52 — IFS and Self-Compassion
28:18 — Wonder and Awe
31:40 — Mystery, Humility & the Ungraspable
35:35 — Hope and Resilience
38:20 — Trust and Repair
41:27 — Estelle’s Work & Closing

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When you want to come away from a conversation with specific outcomes, it’s up to you to create the conditions for getting what you need. 🌱

In this solo episode, I’m unpacking the concept of a coaching container - an intentional framework of agreements and questions to generate a space for connection and clarity. 💬 Collaboration (and isn’t that what a conversation is?) flows much better when everyone feels seen and heard.

Container-building isn’t just for coaching! It’s for any conversation that matters to you. Whether you’re preparing for a meeting, a one-on-one, or a personal conversation that requires courage and care, this episode offers a practical, immediately applicable framework for setting yourself up for success. 🌿✨

👉 The simple practice of building your container is outlined here.

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Chapters:

00:00 Introduction to Coaching Containers

02:06 Defining a Coaching Container

03:37 Creating the Right Environment

06:36 The Importance of Psychological Safety

08:56 Applying Coaching Principles to Conversations

10:58 Wrap-Up

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Today I’m speaking with coach and facilitator Shilpa Alimchandani and we're talking about the courageous and liberating work of how we examine the systems and contexts that shape our sense of self and leadership. Together we discuss how we view the coaching container as a sacred space. And Shilpa shares how through movement, music, and sound, we set that space apart, quiet the noise, reconnect with our bodies, and practice presence.

Shilpa is founder of Mookti Consulting partnering with mission-driven organizations to build human-centered workplaces. She brings more than 25 years in DEI, leadership development, and intercultural learning, and has facilitated in 20+ countries. As a coach, she supports women of color to lead with purpose and clarity without sacrificing values or well-being, helping clients see how social identities and systemic power dynamics shape our experiences.

👉 This is the simple practice I mention in the episode to support your leadership work.

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Connect with Shilpa Alimchandani at Mookti Consulting

Chapters

00:00 The Problem Isn’t You
00:48 Welcome + Shilpa’s Story
05:18 Bridging Cultures + Finding Purpose
08:31 The Teddy Bear Story
10:27 Coaching in Context
12:13 Music, Movement, and Presence
16:05 Creating Sacred Space
20:28 Imposter Syndrome Reframed
26:34 Unlearning + Agency
30:30 Both/And Living
33:46 The Power of Music + Memory
38:22 Hope in Collapse
44:40 Closing Reflections

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In this reflection episode, I explore the two kinds of wisdom that shape the spirituality of leadership: the practical wisdom that guides what we do, and the perennial wisdom that shapes how we are.

Drawing from my conversation with translator and contemplative teacher Carmen Acevedo Butcher, I share how contemplative practices strengthen our capacity for discernment, patience, and presence. The vital the inner qualities that allow us to lead with love rather than react from anxiety.

I also include a simple, practical tool from The Daring Way™ framework to help bring clarity and ownership to any conversation.

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Today I'm speaking with Carmen Acevedo Butcher award-winning translator, writer, and core faculty of The Center for Action and Contemplation. Her translations of The Cloud of Unknowing and Practice of the Presence reveals timeless wisdom for anyone drawn to contemplative life, beyond any one tradition. Together, we explore the non-binary nature of spirituality, the power of presence, and how ancient wisdom continues to speak to the questions of our modern lives.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Mystical Traditions

02:49 Carmen's Journey and Vocation

05:54 The Art of Translation as Spiritual Practice

09:05 Childhood Influences and Early Struggles

12:12 Finding Healing Through Nature and Language

15:00 The Role of Trauma in Shaping Identity

18:08 The Search for Self and Spirituality

20:53 The Complexity of Pride and Agency

23:51 Listening as a Path to Understanding

27:13 The Process of Translation and Interpretation

30:04 Beyond Binary Thinking in Spirituality

32:59 The Influence of Historical Context on Spiritual Texts

36:04 The Universal Message of The Cloud of Unknowing

38:57 Brother Lawrence and the Practice of Presence

42:11 The Importance of Grace in Spiritual Life

44:50 Concluding Thoughts and Reflections

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Inspired by Becca Pearce’s insights, Arianne shares a short reflection and a practice for shifting from harsh self-talk to self-compassionate clarity in leadership and life.

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Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Feeling Beings Who Think and it's purpose

03:02 Introducing Solo Episodes and Reflections

03:29 Insights from Becca Pierce

03:54 The Power of Listening

04:42 Self-Compassion and Inner Dialogue

06:24 Practical Advice for Self-Compassion

08:05 Conclusion and Call to Action

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Today I’m speaking with Becca Pearce, author of You Don’t Have To Achieve To Be Loved. Becca shares how a health crisis became a turning point in her lifelong pursuit of perfection, and how forgiveness, uncertainty, and self-compassion helped her discover love and wholeness beyond achievement. If you’ve ever measured your worth by what you do - and who hasn't - this conversation will speak right to your heart.

👉 Try this simple practice that will ensure you and your team or board leave meetings more clear and aligned, all while building trust.

🌿 Learn how I support clergy and nonprofit leaders in leading with clarity, courage, and heart.

Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Becca Pearce

01:07 Career Journey and Challenges

03:20 Health Crisis and Transformation

05:39 The Impact of Upbringing on Health Choices

10:40 Forgiveness and Self-Compassion

17:55 Navigating Uncertainty and Change

24:06 Core Needs and Values

29:22 The Journey to Writing a Book

37:26 Conclusion and Book Release

Becca Pearce is a seasoned executive coach and business strategist with years of experience helping leaders achieve their professional and personal goals. As the Founder and CEO of Extend Coaching & Consulting, she brings unique insights from her career as a former health insurance executive and her transformative personal experiences, including overcoming public failure and significant health challenges. Her expertise lies in empowering leaders to navigate change, enhance productivity, and build lasting success through strategic planning and leadership development. Becca’s passion is helping executives and business owners lead with authenticity, innovation, and confidence.

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Today I am joined by Mikaela Seligman—founder of Lumin/Us Leadership, a guide, coach, and partner to mission-driven leaders and organizations.

With over 30 years of experience across nonprofits, education, philanthropy, government, and labor, Mikaela brings wisdom from roles as diverse as classroom teacher, executive director, and advisor. She shares how adaptive leadership and wholehearted transformation have shaped her path—and how she helps others walk theirs with fierce compassion.

It’s a thoughtful, heart-forward conversation about vocation, mission, and becoming all of who we are in the work we do.

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In this episode I’m joined by my friend and colleague John Frisch—an executive coach, leadership consultant, and former CEO of the mid-Atlantic law firm Miles & Stockbridge. John’s passion for growing leaders and transforming workplace cultures is rooted in years of experience and a deep commitment to values-based leadership.

In this conversation, we talk about love—not as a feeling, but as a practice, a value, and a choice. Whether it’s in our leadership, our relationships, or our calling in the world, love can be a steady, guiding force.

I’m so grateful to John for showing up with honesty and curiosity. I hope our conversation inspires you to ask yourself, especially when facing a challenge: What would love do?

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Today, I’m speaking with Bishop Jennifer Reddall, the sixth bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of Arizona and the first woman to serve in that role. A graduate of Yale University with a degree in Theater Studies, Bishop Reddall has long understood the power of storytelling.

In our conversation, Bishop Reddall shares how being a witness to the stories of people and communities is central to her leadership. As is emphasizing the importance of joy, celebration, and affirming the unique contributions of each individual and community. Thanks for listening!

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Bishop Jennifer A. Reddall is the sixth and first female bishop of the Diocese of Arizona. Elected in 2018 and ordained in 2019, she previously served as rector of Church of the Epiphany in New York City. She leads 64 worshiping communities, fostering deep faith, inclusivity, and discipleship. A collaborative leader, she prioritizes pastoral care for clergy, diocesan unity, evangelism in Hispanic and Latino communities, and advocacy for antiracism, creation care, and immigrant support. A California native, she holds a Yale degree in Theater Studies and is a former Episcopal Service Corps member.

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Today I'm speaking with Leadership Coach Dan Henderson, who spent years building a career in business—founding companies, working in venture capital, and leading major acquisitions - until an undiagonosed discovery changed the trajectory of his career and set him on a journey—not just of understanding himself, but of reframing his entire story.

In this conversation, Dan shares how he transformed what he once saw as a deficit into his greatest strength. We dive into the emotional landscape of leadership, the power of finding community, and why the stories we tell ourselves—especially the ones about not being ‘enough’—deserve to be challenged. Thanks for listening!

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Dan Henderson spent nearly three decades building and successfully exiting high-growth businesses as a founder, venture investor, and corporate development executive. He played key roles in companies like FastSoft (acquired by Akamai) and BeClose (incubated at Alarm.com), led global M&A for 3Pillar Global, and invested in startups that achieved valuations in the hundreds of millions.

Now an ICF-accredited leadership coach and Founder of Gravity Insights he helps business leaders navigate growth, blind spots, and work-life balance with insight from his own journey. He also volunteers as a business advisor, plays fiddle in an award-winning bluegrass band, and lives in Falls Church, VA, with his family and an assortment of pets.

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“I realized what I wanted hadn’t been invented yet.” Today I’m speaking with Callie Swanlund—Episcopal priest, retreat leader, spiritual companion, and coach—about her journey to finding fulfillment and helping others do the same. Author of From Weary to Wholehearted: A Restorative Resource for Overcoming Clergy Burnout, Callie shares how creativity, play, and rest can help us live into who we’re called to be. I hope this sparks reflection on your own journey. Thanks for listening and sharing!"

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Callie Swanlund is an Episcopal priest, retreat leader, spiritual companion, and coach who helps others know their belovedness and find their Spark. Her new book, From Weary to Wholehearted, is a restorative resource for overcoming ministry burnout. Callie is a creative minister and leads individuals and groups in the work of Dr. Brené Brown as a Certified Daring Way Facilitator. Her How2charist: Digital Instructed Eucharist film has reached Christians and curious individuals around the world, and her Wholehearted Wisdom movement invites others into deeper reflection and connection across social media. Callie is an Episcopal Church Foundation Fellow and has keynoted such conferences as: Kanuga Christian Formation Conference, Episcopal Communicators Annual Conference, and Episcopal Camps and Conference Centers Annual Conference. She lives in Philadelphia with her co-dreaming partner Jeremy, their two tween/teen children, and a rescue pup named Rufus. www.callieswanlund.com | callie@callieswanlund.com

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You may be familiar with the idea of love languages – a way to understand how we express and receive love in romantic relationships. But what about the relationships we have in and with our work and leadership? In this episode, I explore how connecting with our heart language can transform the way we show up, listen, and engage. My guest, Sandra Dorsainvil, embodies this deeply. As an ordained minister, leadership coach, and retreat facilitator, Sandra’s work is rooted in meaningful questions and deep listening. Her bilingual fluency and cross-cultural experience bring rich perspective to coaching and supporting BIPOC women in leadership. Tune in for a thoughtful conversation about vulnerability, connection, and leading with heart.

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You can connect with Sandra on her site, read her article "Take A Breath", and listen on YouTube!

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The Rev. Sandra Dorsainvil is an ordained minister with the American Baptist Churches, USA, and a certified coach with the International Coaching Federation. She serves as a ministry coach and retreat facilitator with The Center for Career Development and Ministry, and through her private practice, she offers coaching to BIPOC women in leadership. With bilingual fluency in English and French and cross-cultural experience across Africa, Europe, and North America, Sandra brings a sensitive and unique approach to her work.

Sandra holds graduate degrees in pastoral ministry, rehabilitation counseling, and psychology. She has over 35 years of experience in counseling, advocacy, program development, pastoral leadership, and international ministry. A published author and regular contributor to The Christian Citizen, Sandra’s passion lies in deep listening, presence, and prayerful engagement.

In her free time, she enjoys paddleboarding, beach vacations, and time with her grandchildren.

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"Helping families learn to communicate effectively, define shared values, engage in philanthropy feels very much like pastoral care." In this episode, I'm speaking with Luke Jernagan, an Episcopal priest whose journey led him beyond traditional church walls. After experiencing burnout in congregational ministry, Luke finds himself intersecting with generations of families as the Managing Director of Family Learning in a multi-family advisement firm. His story reminds us that our vocational paths often extend far beyond conventional boundaries, inviting us to consider how our own gifts might flourish in unexpected places. Thanks for listening!

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Luke joined Matter Family Office in 2022 after 15 years as an Episcopal priest, bringing his passion for helping people navigate life’s joys and challenges. As Managing Director of Family Learning, he helps families strengthen relationships, communicate effectively, and focus on what matters most. Luke also leads Matter’s Culture & Learning committee, crafting practices to foster continuous growth. Previously, he served as Rector of St. Peter’s Church in Ladue, Missouri, where he remains a Priest Associate, and he is president of the Cricket Island Foundation, supporting youth-led social change.

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"Real authority comes from integrity." Today I'm speaking with Nathan Kirkpatrick one of the principal consultants of Saison Consulting, LLC leading faith communities and organizations in strategic visioning and growth. And we are talking aboutthe backstage work of aligning our values with our leadership. It is a choice to authentically and intentionally share your story as a leader. Doing so builds trust and connection when it is done with integrity. Thanks Nathan for sharing so thoughtfully in this conversation!. Thanks for listening.

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Bio

Nathan Kirkpatrick is one of the principal consultants of Saison Consulting, LLC, an Episcopal priest, former Managing Director of Alban at Duke Divinity School (2014–2021) and Leadership Education at Duke Divinity (2007–2021), he has worked with hundreds of congregations nationwide, from rural Oregon to New York City. His expertise includes facilitating strategic visioning for organizations and teaching in the Executive Certificate in Religious Fundraising through the Lilly Endowment-supported Lake Institute on Faith & Giving. Nathan regularly trains leaders globally on change management, innovation, sustainability, and leadership. Outside of work, his passions include photography, wine, cooking, running, and cycling.

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“Our truest personhood, lies in the freedom of being who we are, in our own unique createdness.” Today I’m speaking with Ilia Delio, a Franciscan, theologian, author, and Chair of Theology at Villanova University - and this is not just a conversation for theologians! We delve into Delio's unique perspective on the intersection of science and religion, discuss the themes of wholeness, love as the highest form of knowing, and the importance of embracing change in spiritual growth. Delio is also the founder of the Center for Christogenesis which fosters dialogue and education on the intersection of faith and science, aiming to inspire a transformative understanding of Christianity. I am so grateful that she joined me and to be able to share her work with you. Thanks for listening!

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Learn more about Ilia Delio

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Watch and listen to the lecture God, Evolution and The Power of Love I refer to in our conversation.

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"Our human spirituality flows out from our relationship with the earth." Today I'm speaking with Mark Wastler, Episcopal priest, farmer, spiritual director and founder of Chesapeake Watershed Ministries and together, we explore the themes of listening, creation, and embodied wisdom. We dive into our vocational portfolios and discuss how they continue to shape our understanding of who we are, our leadership, and our spirituality in this ongoing journey of becoming more attentive and present to our truest selves.

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Bio

Mark Wastler is a farmer, priest, conservationist, and spiritual director. He is the founder and executive director of Chesapeake Watershed Ministries, a non-profit organization helping reconnect human spirituality with local ecology. Learn more about Mark and this transformative work at chesapeakewatershedministries.org

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"Let's do the work, listen to each other and trust our own selves."

Today I'm speaking with my friend and colleague, the Rev. Canon Erika von Haaren who I spoke with for the episode "Being Seen for Who We Are" in 2023. In her leadership roles Erika guides communities and individuals to do the work of true listening. That precious skill that takes time, encourages others, and models curious inquisitiveness that is more about creating solutions than finding the right answers. So what happens when we use that same listening skill to get curious about ourselves - and are surprised by who we are turning out to be?

Thanks to Erika for sharing so generously from her professional and personal experience - and thank you for listening!

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The Rev. Canon Erika von Haaren is an Episcopal priest, Enneagram coach, and mother of three pretty great kids. She currently serves as Priest in Charge at Trinity Cathedral in Phoenix, Arizona where she is focusing her energy on strategic change management for their future. She serves as President of the Standing Committee of the Diocese of Arizona, and as a mentor-coach of the VTS Thriving in Ministry Program; and also created the Practical Priest Formation Program to develop new priests in their ministries. She is a weightlifter, newly avid bird-watcher, and member of the Phoenix Women’s Chorus. Find her at www.havenconsultingaz.com.

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"The constant embracing of whatever is and saying yes!" Join me as I chat with Rev. Joe Hensley about the fascinating blend of spirituality, leadership, and imagination. From his unique path to the priesthood, Joe offers deep insights on how imagination and vulnerability shape his ministry and leadership.

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The Rev. Joe Hensley (he/him) grew up in Greensboro, NC and attended the North Carolina School of Science and Mathematics and UNC Chapel Hill (BA Philosophy 1996). A monastery experience at age 23 helped cement his commitment to Christ. He later worked as a professional youth minister and for a community mediation center. At age 33, he graduated (DMin) from Virginia Theological Seminary and was ordained an Episcopal deacon and then priest in 2007. He served as assistant rector at St. Luke’s Episcopal Church in Durham, NC from 2007 until 2014. Since 2015, he has been rector of St. George’s Episcopal Church in Fredericksburg, VA. Joe loves exploring a playful path of “holy foolishness” which seeks joy in the midst of failure and hilarious grace in the midst of chaos. He is committed to his own work toward justice and healing and dismantling all forms of oppression which inhibit our flourishing as God’s beloved children. Joe, who also goes by “Jody,” and his spouse of 25 years, Sarah White, have had four children, Lucy, Alice (deceased 2005), Stella, and Owen. Along the way, he has had gigs as a musician, Outward Bound instructor, and performing clown (“Ashes”). He loves singing, playing and exercising outside, contemplative practices, and making holy mischief.

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“Once I became I priest, I realized I had to be more rigorous about my own healing.” Today my guest is Hugh Grant, an Episcopal priest and psychotherapist trained in Internal Family Systems and EMDR modalities. We explore how multiple vocational identities intersect and enrich our work and abilities to serve others, as well as contually challenge and support our own personal growth. I hope our conversation prompts your reflection on what challenges and supports you in your life and professional pursuits. Thanks for listening.

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A Licensed Clinical Social Worker since 2000, Hugh is trained and certified in the Internal Family Systems model of psychotherapy and in EMDR. In addition to hig work as a psychotherapist, Hugh serves as an assistant priest at Emmanuel Episcopal Church on Orcas Island.

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“What’s the story leading you to believe you have to be a different version of yourself?” Today I'm speaking with Dr. Tony Cerella, a former U.S. Army Lieutenant Colonel who is now a coach, facilitator, and storyteller. Tony shares his journey of formative military service, highlighting the difficult experiences that shaped his vocation and personal growth. We also speak about the joys and challenges of transitioning from clearly defined careers into a life of self-directed leadership, the value of coaching, and cultivating new, nourishing communities. I hope this conversation prompts some reflection and learning for you! Thanks for listening.

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Tony's Bio

During his 23 years of international military service, Tony excelled in challenging multinational assignments as a follower and leader. He passionately develops emerging talent and leads cohesive teams. Tony models positive behaviors, shares wisdom, and creates safe spaces for constructive vulnerability. Since Tony’s transition from military service was positively influenced by coaching, he easily and excitably shifted from Army officer to coach. As a coach Tony uses compassion to explore opportunities for new perspectives and balance. He is a steady hand who listens deeply and connects with people from diverse backgrounds. As a coach and facilitator, Tony brings experience, humor, and empathy to create opportunities for growth.

Tony is curious, dependable, and loves to share laughter. His friends say
that he is a generous soul and a thoughtful storyteller.

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Welcome back to Feeling Beings Who Think! As we kick off Season 3, I'm thrilled to bring you more conversations about vocational callings and leadership.

Have you ever considered how your past careers have shaped who you are today? Many clergy and leadership coaches, including some of our guests, have walked diverse professional paths before finding their calling to guide others.

When was the last time you reflected on the skills and insights you've gained from jobs that seem worlds apart from your current role? Each experience, no matter how different it may appear, has contributed to your unique perspective and abilities. That’s what we’re exploring in this season.

I hope this episode sparks some personal reflection on your own vocational path. What unexpected lessons have your past roles taught you? How have they prepared you for where you are now?

Want to learn more about leadership coaching, workshops or retreats? It's a journey of self-discovery and growth. A spiritual practice that enriches your life and sparks growth in others.

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“If you want to connect with true strength, then you have to find your own weakness." Yes! That is from today's guest, David Achata, an author, coach, trainer, facilitator, speaker, and former pastor. David brings over twenty years of leadership experience to organizations, team development, and training. He is the author of "Embrace What You Don’t Know: A Stupid Guide to Smart Business Leadership" and "Executive Retreats for Busy Business Leaders:
How to Achieve More by Working Less" He lives in the mountains of East Tennessee with his wife and two children. Thanks for listening!

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"Every new beginning comes from some other beginning's end." Do you remember that song lyric? It's from the hit tune "Closing Time" by Semisonic, and it summarizes a truth: We don't like focusing on what is ending. We tend to prioritize the new thing and ignore the power endings have. We work hard to stay busy and avoid the wilderness period, which is often between the two.

Today, I'm talking with Lisa Tilstra, Leadership Coach and fellow podcaster, about the Bridges Transition Model for navigating change and honoring transitions in our professional organizations and personal lives. I hope our conversation inspires insight and support for you in whatever transitions you may be moving through. Thanks for listening.

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Lisa Tilstra - Bio

Originally from the United States, Lisa has lived and worked in the Philippines, Saudi Arabia, the Netherlands, France, and currently, Sri Lanka. Her work extends around the globe. She’s served individual coaching clients from 20+ countries, conducted training in over 30 countries, and had participants in her courses from over 80 countries. Her passion for connecting people and ideas leads her to pursue a deep understanding of culture and how it impacts our connection as humans. At the heart of her work, she seeks to explore and respect cultural differences, deepen awareness of our similarities, and create ways to communicate with strategic precision for greater connection and understanding.

Lisa learned the power of storytelling firsthand by sharing pieces of her journey of loss and grief. After losing her first husband to a brain tumor in 2005, storytelling became a pivotal part of her healing and growth. Many years later, she realized that storytelling was missing from her life and that it could once again be a catalyst for transformation as she sought to overcome depression, stagnation, and feeling completely stuck. Ever since, she has been focused on intentionally creating ways to incorporate storytelling in her life, both personally and professionally. And she is passionate about creating spaces that invite others to do the same.

Lisa holds a master's degree from the University of Florida, a certificate in Leadership Coaching from Georgetown University, and the designation of Professional Certified Coach (PCC) from the International Coach Federation. She is certified in multiple Leadership assessment tools. Lisa hosts regular Story Slams in her community and is the host of two podcasts. The Make Life Less Difficult podcast is her passion project focused on sharing people’s stories to connect and know we aren’t alone in our journeys. She's an avid nature enthusiast, loves to be in the mountains, is a paragliding pilot, and actively seeks opportunities to test her limits physically and emotionally. Lisa is married to a US Diplomat (her favorite adventure partner), is an active real estate investor, and owns a boutique real estate investing consulting company.

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My guest is Dr. Jamie Marich, author, speaker, and internationally recognized expert on topics related to EMDR therapy, trauma, addiction, and recovery. She has written numerous books, notably "Trauma and the 12 Steps: An Inclusive Guide to Recovery."

It takes courage to acknowledge and move through our hurts, and I've learned that compassionate self-examination is vital to our journey toward wholeness and healing, both in our personal and professional lives. Dr. Marich shares some of her courageous life-changing story, and our discussion goes from there. Thanks for listening!

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"Silence is the necessary space around things that allows them to develop and flourish without my pushing." - Richard Rohr. In this solo episode, I share a story that taught me how powerful retreating into silence is for learning how to listen. Listen in ways that can be attentive, discerning, loving, and open, allowing things to unfold. I hope this encourages you to consider taking time to retreat and listen in your world. Thanks for listening! (quote from Center for Action & Contemplation meditations)

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Holy Cross Abbey

Abbey of Gethsemani

Mepkin Abbey

Carmelite Monastery of Baltimore

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Powerful questions provoke introspection and sometimes a reassessment of who we are and who we are becoming. My guest today is the Rev. Derek Miller. And I asked him to be in conversation with me to share and discuss the introspective periods he journeyed through when his denominational identity was shifting and his marriage was ending. Difficult as they are, endings do lead to new beginnings. Thanks for listening!

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Derek currently serves as the rector at St. Peter’s Episcopal Church in Old Ellicott City. Though now an Episcopal priest, he’s had a broad, multidenominational background. He was raised in the Baptist church, having both a father and grandfather as Baptist pastors, served in nondenominational churches as a worship leader and local pastor, and has learned and worked cross-denominationally in the Baltimore area for over 15 years, including attending an ecumenical seminary. He has experience in urban ministry work, church revitalization, faith community organizing, advocacy, and nonprofit leadership. He currently lives in Ellicott City with his spouse Kara and their young son, Easton. He enjoys buying books (while also occasionally reading them), playing music, and sharing hand-crafted beverages accompanied by meaningful conversation. Find him on Instagram at @derekhmiller

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“Sometimes our most delusional fantasies are not about what we expect in the future but what we think happened in the past.” Today my guest is the Rev. Mark Collins, and we are talking about expectations, resentments, and the supportive framework of 12-step spirituality in daily living. And, if you haven't yet, consider listening to my previous conversation with Mark on Shame and Healing.

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The Rev. Mark Robin Collins is an Episcopal priest and rector of All Saints’ Episcopal Church in Glen Rock, New Jersey. He serves on the Commission on Ministry for the Diocese of Newark and is co-chair of the diocese’s Strategic Visioning process. Previously, he served at Christ & St. Stephen’s and Church of the Holy Trinity in Manhattan after graduating from General Theological Seminary in New York with prizes for preaching and church history. His seminary experience included study at Canterbury Cathedral in England as a Canterbury Scholar. Mark’s other ministries include being a parish Stewardship consultant and leading retreats for LGBTQ+ people recovering from addiction.

Prior to seminary, Mark worked as a fundraiser for the International Rescue Committee, the Wildlife Conservation Society, and City Harvest. Mark has been an abortion rights advocate and clinic defender, AIDS activist and fundraiser, and an advocate for LGBTQ+ rights. He and his husband Denton will celebrate the 27th year of their relationship later this year. Yes, that is a slight Southern accent -- Mark is originally from Memphis, Tennessee.

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Our habits shape who we are becoming. Some habits we choose and some habits choose us. Today I’m speaking with the Rev. James Farwell an Episcopal priest, professor, and author and we're discussing his latest book "Ritual Excellence: Best Practices for Leading and Planning Liturgy" I hope whether or not you are someone who leads liturgy you still take a listen! Because the rituals that we choose to inhabit are can expand, shape and change our ways of being.

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The Rev. James W. Farwell is the Professor of Theology and Liturgy at Virginia Theological Seminary and holds the H. Boone Chair of Liturgics at The General Theological Seminary. His fields of expertise include liturgical and sacramental theology and practice; liturgy, suffering, and trauma; and Christian comparative theology with special attention to the tradition of Soto Zen Buddhism.

Dr. Farwell holds the Ph.D. in Theological Studies from Emory University. He is a
member of the American Academy of Liturgy; the Society for Comparative Theology; and he convenes the Anglican Consortium of the North American Academy of Liturgy. His most recent publications include the Seabury Press book, "Ritual Excellence: Best Practices for Leading and Planning Liturgy."

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"I don’t know how we get whole without community and connection," says my partner in this conversation, the Rev. Jered Weber-Johnson - and I would wholeheartedly agree! I hope you enjoy this episode, and I'm grateful you are here. Thank you for listening. Please take a moment to like, follow, and/or share this episode!

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The Rev. Jered Weber Johnson was called to St. John’s, St. Paul, MN to be the Rector in the spring of 2011 – and as he describes it, coming to St. John’s was like “coming home.” As the priest in charge of the parish, Jered oversees the operations of the church, the staff, the finances, and fundraising, as well as the spiritual life and care of the congregation. Jered also preaches regularly, teaches, celebrates the Eucharist and presides at other worship along with our associate rector, does regular pastoral care, and chairs vestry, the lay governing board of the parish.

Before moving to Minnesota, Jered served at St. Alban’s Episcopal Church, which is located close to the National Cathedral in Washington, D.C. Previously, Jered also served at St. Paul’s Chapel at Ground Zero and Trinity Wall Street in New York City. While in New York he received his Master of Divinity from The General Theological Seminary. Jered and his wife Erin were sponsored by the Episcopal Diocese of Olympia in western Washington, to serve as missionaries with the Episcopal Church’s Young Adult Service Corp in northern Taiwan.

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There is wisdom in ourselves, in our communities, and in the faithful work of showing up, day by day, year in and year out - if we make time to hear it. Today, my guest is the Rev. Stephanie Allen, Canon for Leadership Development in the Diocese of East Carolina, and learning to listen well is just some of what we talk about. Thanks for listening! Please take a moment to like, share or write a brief review.

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Bio - The Rev. Canon Stephanie Allen

Stephanie Allen is a priest in the Episcopal Church. She has been Rector of Church of the Nativity in Raleigh, NC for the past twelve years, but will be leaving shortly to serve as Canon for Leadership Development for the Diocese of East Carolina. She holds an undergraduate degree in Theater Arts from the University of the South, Sewanee and an M.Div. from The General Episcopal Seminary in New York. Wife to Michael and mother to two awesome young adults, Stephanie likes to knit with expensive yarn, read cheap novels published on kindle, and walk her ridiculous, poorly trained hound dog who is the best dog ever.

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Today my guest is the Rev. Mary Foulke! Thanks for listening.

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Bio - The Rev. Mary Foulke

The Reverend Mary Foulke, Ed.D. is an educator and social justice advocate. She has been the Rector of St. Mary’s Episcopal Church in Harlem since 2014. Since entering professional ministry in 1989, she has sought to articulate a religious/spiritual perspective that is open, intelligent and humble. She helps churches to build communities in which differences are recognized, understood, engaged and celebrated, and where creative/wholistic social action and service are developed and supported. She has worked on the Upper East Side, Wellesley, MA, Pasadena CA, Greenwich Village, with congregations large and small. She has also learned from and taught every age group from pre-k to seminary/graduate school about religion, education and resisting all forms of oppression.

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Welcome to Season Two! Today my guest is Bishop Coadjutor-Elect of Maryland, Carrie Schofield-Broadbent.

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Bishop Carrie - Bio

Bishop Coadjutor-Elect of Maryland, Carrie Schofield-Broadbent, (she/her) identifies her own core values of ministry as: trust and relationships, truth and transparency, and compassion and faithfulness. These qualities reveal themselves in who God has created her to be: a bridge-builder, someone who is not afraid of tough conversations, and an encourager – grounded in integrity, creativity, and the love of Jesus. Open to the movement of the Holy Spirit, her collaborative leadership style combines strength, graciousness, authenticity, strategy and a generous sense of humor.

Deeply committed to honoring the dignity of every human being, Bishop-elect Carrie consistently attends to her own work around race, climate change, economic justice, and full-inclusion of LGBTQAI+ persons and is committed to helping the Church grow in these areas.

Bishop-elect Carrie has consulted with clergy, lay leaders, vestries and congregations across the Church who are experiencing conflict. She graduated from Virginia Theological Seminary in 2003 and is a trainer with the College for Congregational Development. She will be consecrated September 16, 2023 at Washington National Cathedral.

Bishop-elect Carrie is married to her husband, Keith. Their children are Will (19), who is a sophomore at SUNY ESF and Kate (17), who is a junior in high school. They have two dogs and enjoy traveling, camping, kayaking, and hiking together. In her free time, she is a hobby potter and also dabbles in painting and quilting. She also loves to read, practice yoga, nurture friendships, and cultivate her growing love of houseplants. 

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"If we could all be more real about how hard life is, we would probably be more loving people." Today my guest is The Very Rev. Jonah Kendall, a colleague and friend who shares the story of a difficult and painful experience in his family. This is a conversation about being there for people when there are no words. And about leaning into the support of people, community, and rituals to give us the words we need.  Thanks for listening.

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The Very Rev. Jonah Kendall serves as the Rector of St. Thomas, Sun Valley, Idaho, as well as an appointed missioner for the Central Deanery of the Diocese of Idaho.  Jonah was ordained at the Cathedral of St. John the Divine on September 15th, 2001, just four days after September 11th.  Throughout his 20+ years of ministry, Jonah has served four dynamic parishes, each in a completely different context.  Jonah met his wife, Caty, while studying at the General Theological Seminary in New York when she was visiting her mother, a classmate of Jonah’s.  They have two daughters, Scout and Beau.  Jonah’s passion for ministry is in the cultivation of relationships that build connections between God, the Church, and the world.  He enjoys the great outdoors, and when he’s not at church, you will find him hiking, skiing, or exploring with his family.

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“To live in the truth that we are worthy of love and belonging. Period. That is the gospel message.” It was a joy to have this conversation with the Rev. Canon Erika von Haaran, Episcopal priest, Certified Daring Way Facilitator, Certified ILS Enneagram Coach, and founder of Haven Consulting & Coaching. I share her belief in that powerful gospel truth and hope her story of calling, discernment, and vocation inspires renewed awareness of that truth for you! Thanks for listening!

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An Episcopal priest for nearly 17 years, von Haaren’s calling began in tiny Minnesota churches in the Mississippi River Valley. After an undergrad degree in Theatre Arts from the U of MN, she earned an M.Div. from General Seminary in 2006. She landed at Saint Barnabas in Scottsdale as an associate priest for mission ministries. Over that 14-year tenure, she was promoted to Vicar/COO: Chief of Staff and strategic developer with oversight of all program departments. 

In 2014, von Haaren became a Certified Daring Way™ Facilitator and a Certified ILS
Enneagram Coach in 2021 to help people explore their lives and relationships with God in new ways. She has served on the Standing Committee of the Diocese of AZ as a professor for the Deacon Formation Academy. She recently stepped down as Chair of the Commission on Ministry after a 5-year tenure. 

In 2020, Erika partnered all of the above with the work of Interim Ministry in a move to Resurrection Episcopal Church in Gilbert. In that year, the mission saw a 25% growth in membership and a 30% increase in stewardship all while articulating priorities, standardizing systems, and deepening discipleship.
That same year, Haven Consulting & Coaching was born to serve people, groups and businesses who seek a teacher/companion/strategist as they discern their goals, define their futures, and learn how to get to those places with deliberate wisdom. In early 2022, von Haaren was named Interim Rector at Christ Church of the Ascension in Paradise Valley, leading the way in strategically positioning the parish for strength to lead into a new permanent rectorship.

In 2022, she was honored for her contributions by being named an Honorary Canon of the Diocese of Arizona. Erika is a mother to three children, an avid reader, an occasional crafter, and a devoted weight-lifter, who loves Ted Lasso, and Little House on the Prairie. She seeks to live each day with her values as her guide: empathy, grace, love, and integrity.

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"Any type of personal change is just as much art as science, and it's a co-creative process." A desire for change is often the catalyst for seeking a therapist, coach, or helping professional. But we seek support in understanding ourselves and our motivations for myriad reasons. Today I’m speaking with David Kitchings, a Licensed Professional Counselor – i.e. therapist - with a private practice in Cincinnati, Ohio, where he works with individuals and couples.  He is a Certified Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapist, an approved IFS clinical consultant, and is on staff for IFS trainings and IFIO (Intimacy from the Inside Out) trainings. Thanks for listening!

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In addition to the above, David teaches introductory IFS workshops and has experience in IFS-inspired executive coaching and IFS-inspired psychedelic integration.  David returned to psychotherapy in 2015 after years spent working as an attorney, business owner, and stay-at-home dad to three children. He spent time in Singapore and Switzerland, working with expatriates. David has a deep interest in spirituality, art, and music.  You can learn more at www.davidkitchings.com.  You can learn more about IFS at https://ifs-institute.com/ and IFIO at www.toniherbineblank.com/  

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“There are certain things you have to experience for it to change you.” Today my conversation partner is Candace Chance, Founder of the V.I.P. strategy and design firm and several more entrepreneurial endeavors to support strategic visioning in communities. Candace shares personally and professionally about the experiences that led her to discover her core value of being an ambassador and bridge-builder between cultures and people and different ways of being in the world.  Thanks for listening - and thanks for sharing!

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Candace is a Baltimore City native (with Guyanese roots) who spent a decade exploring the dynamics of social & economic ecosystems. She has been developing strategies to serve the development of regenerative and self-determined communities. 

Candace founded The V.P.I. Firm (Vision, Performance, & Impact): a process and strategy design firm for community development & social impact. She also co-founded Momo|Wucha, an equity real estate development firm. 

As if that wasn’t enough, Candace is also the Interim Executive Director (previously founding Board President) of BCIITY (Baltimore City Intergenerational Initiative for Trauma & Youth), a community-managed alliance of over 60 organizations and social enterprises, disseminating over $3.5 million to community-grown solutions. Other volunteer work includes sitting on the 

board of Maryland’s 1st Pennsylvania Avenue Black Arts & Entertainment District in West Baltimore, advisor for CLLCTIVLY and Project Niche, and member of the Alumnae & Alumni of Goucher College’s Public Service Award Committee.

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"When you create an environment where authenticity is the winning quality instead of perfection, you bring out the best in people, the most human, the least judgmental." This is the power of storytelling! This connects and creates sacred space between people. Today my conversation is with Jessica Myles Henkin and Laura Wexler, Founders, Producers and Hosts of "The Stoop Storytelling Series" in Baltimore. I hope you find encouragement, and insights, to listen to others and share some stories of your own. Thanks for listening!

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“What does your body tell you about your life now?” That's a hard question! I am not someone who easily attunes to the wisdom of my body. When I think of wisdom, I think of being in my head, not my body. Today my guest is Marietta Vis, a somatics leadership coach who invites us to explore and embrace embodied self-awareness. I'm grateful for Marietta's sharing some of her story with me and for the generous ways, she shares her work with the world.

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"There is not a perfect place we get to where we aren't wounded by life." I know this is true, and I wish it weren't! My guest today is my close friend and colleague, The Rev. Mark Robin Collins and we are discussing the classic and best-selling book, "Healing the Shame that Binds You" by John Bradshaw. Thanks for listening!

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The Rev. Mark Robin Collins is an Episcopal priest and rector of All Saints’ Episcopal Church in Glen Rock, New Jersey. He serves on the Commission on Ministry for the Diocese of Newark and is co-chair of the diocese’s Strategic Visioning process. Previously, he served at Christ & St. Stephen’s and Church of the Holy Trinity in Manhattan after graduating from General Theological Seminary in New York with prizes for preaching and church history. His seminary experience included study at Canterbury Cathedral in England as a Canterbury Scholar. Mark’s other ministries include being a parish Stewardship consultant and leading retreats for LGBTQ+ people recovering from addiction.

Prior to seminary, Mark worked as a fundraiser for the International Rescue Committee, the Wildlife Conservation Society, and City Harvest. Mark has been an abortion rights advocate and clinic defender, AIDS activist and fundraiser, and an advocate for LGBTQ+ rights. He and his husband Denton will celebrate the 27th year of their relationship later this year. Yes, that is a slight Southern accent -- Mark is originally from Memphis, Tennessee.

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“There are more ways of being, seeing, showing up, perceiving and understanding than what is innate or natural for us.” Yes, yes! Today my guest is Brad Farrington, an ordained minister, executive leadership coach, and founder of New Waters Group, LLC.  And he utilizes the Enneagram as a framework for himself and others to discover ways of being we can cultivate. Thanks, Brad, for this engaging and dynamic conversation. Thanks for listening!

Click here to find Richard Rohr's resources on the Enneagram. BioThe Rev. Brad Farrington is an ordained minister, executive leadership coach, and founder of New Waters Group, LLC. He received his Executive Certificate in Leadership Coaching at Georgetown University, Master of Divinity at Emory University, and Bachelor of Arts in Philosophy and Religion at Appalachian State University. He is also a Professional Certified Coach (PCC) through the International Coaching Federation (ICF) as well as an Integrative Enneagram Accredited Practitioner (iEQ9). Through his 25+ year career he has served in numerous lead roles, including being a pastor, campus minister, nonprofit executive director, and small business owner and entrepreneur.  His life’s calling is to help others claim their unique identity, clarify their purpose, and connect to a greater journey of life as they navigate their next steps – personally, professionally, or organizationally. He lives in the mountains of North Carolina in Boone with his wife and two teenage children.

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"We want to be seen for who we are, and that starts with taking time to see into ourselves." Today I'm talking about tarot cards and confessing my heresy with author Brittany Muller. In her book, "The Contemplative Tarot: A Christian Guide to the Cards" Brittany shares how the tarot can become an unexpected - and not heretical! - tool in our desire to pause, contemplate and look inside ourselves for the wisdom we need. Thanks for listening!

In our conversation we refer to the Rider-Waite Tarot deck

Brittany Muller is an Austin-based writer and an enthusiastic believer in the beautiful strangeness of Christianity. A devout Catholic with an equally devout sense of curiosity, her favorite pastime is finding new ways to think about God. She is the author of The Contemplative Tarot: A Christian Guide to the Cards, from St. Martin’s Essentials. 

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"Not knowing is most intimate." Do you know this Buddhist teaching? I wanted to take a pause in conversations and talk with you briefly about how this wisdom supports me in this work and in all our efforts to live into who we are called to be. I also want to let you know about some of the upcoming conversations I'm looking forward to sharing! Thanks for listening.

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"We connect with people when we reveal ourselves." This takes most of us time to learn and maybe even more time to trust because vulnerability is as scary as it is courageous. My guest today is the Rev. Dina Van Klaveren, an Episcopal priest and leader in the church. She shares her experiences of connection and ways she practices intentional discernment in the callings of her vocation and career. We also talk about her experience in the courageous and vulnerable endeavor of being a candidate for bishop in the church. Thank you for listening, and thank you for sharing!

Bio - Dina is an Episcopal priest and Jesus follower who loves exploring how the Good News calls us to live into a joy, clarity and freedom that is worth the work it requires. She is committed to human flourishing, in herself, her family, her community, and the world.  Dina is rector of St. Andrew’s, Glenwood and priest-in-charge of St. Paul’s, Poplar Springs; chair of the board of the Claggett Center; and member of the TENS and El Hogar boards. You can find her at goodnewslifestyle.net.

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"Ultimately, the only things I have control over are my intentions and attitude." That is so true, especially when we take risks! My returning guest today is The Rev. Steve Paulikas, I asked him back to talk about ambition, courage, and vulnerability. Steve was recently a candidate for bishop in the Diocese of NY in the Episcopal Church.  And whether or not the church is a part of your life, I believe you will resonate with our discussion of naming your values, setting intentions, and how we prepare and practice discernment when making big decisions. 

I want to thank Steve for sharing so personally about this experience. I want to thank you for listening and, if I may ambitiously ask, for taking a moment to share this podcast with someone in your world. 

Bio - The Rev. Steven Paulikas is the rector of All Saints’ Church in Brooklyn. His opinion writing has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Nation, and others, and his essay on the political response to evil is featured in "Modern Ethics in 77 Arguments: A Stone Reader." Prior to attending seminary, Steven was a journalist based in Vilnius, Lithuania. 

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Change = loss = grief. That equation was an epiphany for my guest today, Mabeth Hudson, who believes passionately in the spiritual well-being of people and organizations. She designs and leads innovative programming on two emotional realities rarely discussed at work: grief and joy. We talk about both, and I hope this conversation offers you new ways of thinking about these feelings that impact what we are thinking and how we are doing - every day.  Thanks for listening and sharing.

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Mabeth Hudson is passionate about spiritual well-being in people, organizations, and our world. In 2002, she felt called to leave the practice of law and, after an intentional discernment process, co-founded Well for the Journey, a non-profit that encourages spiritual wellbeing through innovative programming and resources.

She designs workshops, classes, and retreats tailored to the needs of individuals, groups, and organizations. Her favorite topics include living joyfully in stressful times, navigating transition, strengthening resilience, and practical spirituality for daily living. Programs incorporate accessible tools for daily life, emerging science, and relationship building. 

Mabeth also integrates her spiritual and legal experience to empower people of all ages to explore end-of-life issues well before the end-of-life. She facilitates communication, contemplation, and clarity around the taboo topic of death to bring healing and peace. 

She holds a JD from Emory University School of Law and MA in Spiritual Care from Loyola University Maryland.

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"I help people talk about God," is how my guest, The Rev. Glenna Huber describes her calling and vocation to the priesthood. And in this episode, she shares what drew her into this work and the experiences that have shaped her relationship with God, the church, her family, and the people she pastors.  I hope this conversation is of support and encouragement and helps you see the experiences that have and continue to shape your relationship with who and what matters - what I would call holy - in your life.  Thanks for listening.

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The Rev. Glenna J. Huber is the 15th Rector of the Church of the Epiphany in downtown Washington, D.C.  Before joining Epiphany, she served as Vicar at the Holy Nativity Episcopal Church in Baltimore. She has also served as a consultant for urban congregations on the efficacy of community organizing in congregational development.For the past 21 years, Rev. Huber has served in a number of ordained pastoral roles in Baltimore and Atlanta, including ecumenical and educational positions. Her positions have allowed her to offer pastoral care and counsel to teachers, seniors and parents, and students from preschool to high school. 

She has experience working in a variety of communities ranging from suburban affluent neighborhoods to underserved and economically depressed environments. In relationship to her capacity within the church, Rev. Huber is a sought-out lecturer and has addressed subjects ranging from leadership in the church and in the community to faith and justice and systemic injustice, including urban poverty, education, housing, redlining, and how the church can respond to issues affecting our community, to racism and reconciliation.

Rev. Huber received a Master of Divinity degree from The General Theological Seminary (New York) and her undergraduate degree in history from Spelman College (Georgia). She is married to Richard, and they have two children – Jonas and Adayah.

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"I live my life in widening circles" quotes my guest The Rev. José Roberto (Berto) Gándara-Perea as he shares his love of Rilke's poetry, which speaks to his desire for an expansive life and faith. Berto has been ordained for thirty years, first as a Roman Catholic priest, now Episcopalian. We talk about the reasons for that, what catholic (note the small "c") truly means, we go deep with seeking to put words around what is hard to talk about: love, vulnerability, awe, yearning - words that in the Christian tradition, are part of the story we are about to celebrate. A story and an invitation to give birth to love and light. I hope this conversation meets you wherever you are and expands the circles in your life. Thanks for listening!

Bio - The Rev. José Roberto Gándara-Perea, or Berto as he is better known, was born in Mayagüez, Puerto Rico. In 1983 he entered the Redemptorist Congregation, a Roman Catholic missionary order, where he made vows in 1986. Berto completed a BA in philosophy with the Dominican friars in Bayamón, Puerto Rico and then a four-year master’s degree in theology in the national seminary in Santo Domingo, Dominican Republic. He was ordained a priest in 1992. In 2004 Berto began a process of discernment concerning leaving the Roman Catholic Church and its priesthood and entering The Episcopal Church. He obtained a Diploma in Anglican Studies from The General Theological Seminary (GTS) in New York City and, after much prayer, he made the decision to "swim the Thames" in 2006.

Berto worked for three years as program director, case manager, and mental health counselor at Harlem United Community AIDS Center. He also worked at GTS as Director of the Hispanic/Latino Theology Program, adjunct professor, and Field Education Director. In 2009 he was received as a priest in The Episcopal Church and served for four year as priest-in-charge at the Church of the Intercession in Harlem, New York City. For the last eight years Berto has served as the rector of Emmanuel Episcopal Church on Orcas Island, a small island of the Northwest coast of Washington state.

Berto has shared his life for the past sixteen years with his spouse, the Rev. Hugh McPhail Grant, also an Episcopal priest and psychotherapist from Atlanta, Georgia and their two amazing dogs: a tripawd called Ava and Bruno.

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"I wonder..." This simple beginning is an invitation to deep conversation and connection. My guest today is Sally Thomas, creator of the Wondering Together Project.  Her experiences as a nurse, chaplain, busy mom, and Sunday school teacher led her to create a practice for families based on this invitation. I hope this rich conversation prompts wonder and possibilities for strengthening connections in the relationships that matter to you this time of year. Thanks for listening! 

Sally Thomas Bio - Since her children declared their innate theology as tiny sage ones, Sally has been attuned to the spiritual questions, and wisdom children spontaneously offer in this wondrous world. A chaplain in Portland, Maine, Sally recently completed a Doctorate in Ministry from Eden Seminary. The WonderingTogether Project – the fruit of her doctoral and ongoing research - focuses on how sharing our stories daily (simple, mundane, messy, and real) enhance our connectedness to one another in our digitally complex world. Sally has been sitting with circles of children and their families in ministry settings for 20+ years andenjoyed working as an RN and Nurse Practitioner, and Chaplain.

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My guest today is Kristofer Lindh-Payne, who wears a few titles (and a clergy collar, like me). He beautifully shares early experiences of being invited into religious traditions in ways that honored his curiosity and piqued his interest. The way we described this feeling is "being held", or, when we know we are seen, heard, and loved so it is safe for us to ask questions and challenge inherited belief systems - because they aren't being imposed. This continues to inform how Kristofer works in the world today inviting others into relationships for building up the common good. 

The Rev. Dr. Kristofer Lindh-Payne (he/him/his) serves as Canon for Congregational Vitality in the Episcopal Diocese of Maryland, as well as Co-Rector of St. Francis Episcopal Parish & Community Center in Timonium. He has a doctorate in congregational development from Bexley-Seabury, a master in pastoral care from Loyola, and a master of divinity from Seabury-Western. Kristofer is a friar in the Anglican Order of St. Francis (OSF), and is deeply formed in the Francis-Clarian tradition. A native of Baltimore, he was ordained in the Diocese of Maryland as deacon in June 2009 and as priest in January 2010. 

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Most of us don't think about funerals until we have to. In this short episode, I share a personal story. It's the story of the funeral I walked through that changed all my thoughts and feelings about what my role at a funeral, as a priest, is for. I hope you find support, resonance, or encouragement in whatever way you, and we all have to at some point, are or have navigated loss in your life.

Here is the piece I reference, "Why I Like a Good Funeral."

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How do you love people the way they need to be loved? My conversation partner today, Erin Weber Johnson, brings us full circle to that question. This is the second time Erin has joined me on this podcast. The first was "Being Connected." We continue to talk about connection in our relationships and with ourselves. Are we able to recognize our self-imposed sense of responsibility and choose to do something courageous? Ask a question! Something as simple as, "What do you need?" 

We laugh about food and feelings, share our holiday plans and how we're grappling with the grief in the world alongside our feelings of gratitude at the beginning of this holiday season.  Thanks for listening!

You can learn more and connect with Erin here.

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How often do you change who you are to meet the needs of others? Do you belong to yourself so much that taking care of yourself empowers you - without guilt- to take care of others? In this episode, I share some reflections on Brené Brown's definition of belonging. Belonging as a feeling, an awareness, a choice that supports the lifelong work of "adulting"! And I connect my understanding of Brown's wisdom to what I teach and preach - particularly around the holidays. I hope you enjoy this solo episode. Thanks for listening.

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Change is hard. Yes, and - neglecting our feelings about the transitions change brings can make change harder still. Today I’m talking with Mike Coe, a Master leadership coach who works with leaders who want more creativity, creatives who want more leadership, and anyone navigating change in their life. Mike specializes in coaching Veterans, military, and spouses through their inner transition as they reenter civilian life. 

We talk about the feelings that change brings, the learnings that we gain from difficult changes, like divorce, and how humor and the framework of improv, are creative ways to accept change when it happens - whether we like it or not.

I hope this conversation prompts resonance, laughter, and encouragement to look inward and get curious about how you might support yourself through the transitions that change brings in your life. Enjoy!

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He's back by popular demand! The Rev. Mark Robin Collins joins me to talk about the hard-won wisdom of owning our past, the experiences of great love and great sadness that have shaped who we are and how we work, and how powerful it is when another person validates the feeling of faith in our worthiness. Enjoy!

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You and I spend considerable time each day having an internal conversation that goes like this - one part of me wants to do "this" while another part of me wants to do "that."  Sound familiar? My guest today, is Emily Kokenge, an award-winning brand builder and business leader providing design leadership and business strategy for more than 30 years. Why is she talking to this priest? Because we are both engaged in the work of building people up through coaching and teaching frameworks that help us get in touch with all the parts of who we are.

The parts that feel like an imposter, or confident parts, or the parts we want to avoid all together! Alas, better to dig in and listen and learn from all these varied parts which is what we talk about. I hope this conversation connects with parts of you. Thanks for listening! 

You can learn more about Emily at her website.

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My conversation today is with Erin Jean Warde, Episcopal priest, spiritual director, recovery coach, and author of the soon-to-be-released, “Sober Spirituality.” Erin and I talk about what supports us and what gets in the way of being awake to our lives. We talk about binaries, those dualistic, either/or mindsets that keep us stuck! Stuck when we want to look at our spiritual practices, or when we are scared by the feeling that we want, and don't want, to think about our relationship with alcohol.

With compassion, humor, and storytelling Erin offers empathy and support for people seeking mind, body, and soul healing.

You can connect with Erin and her work through her site, her online course, and on Substack. And you can find her book here and of course, here.

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What absorbs your attention? Where do you find your ‘flow’? My good friend and esteemed colleague The Rev. Steve Paulikas doesn't use the word “flow" in our conversation, but it occurred to me afterward. As I listened to how he eloquently defines the work we priests do when we preside or as he says, “create a container” for people to be together in a unique way, I realized that full presence is not just about worship and it's not just for priests!

It’s a quality of attention we choose when we bring our full selves to where we are and who we are with – like an intentional conversation. Surely this way of being is part of what calls us into vocations, careers, and relationships, where we flow and find meaning. We also have great fun discussing friendship, drag queens, watershed moments, and how love just isn’t a big enough word for all the facets of what we think about that feeling. Enjoy!

The Rev. Steven Paulikas is the rector of All Saints’ Church in Brooklyn. His opinion writing has appeared in The New York Times, The Washington Post, The Nation, and others, and his essay on the political response to evil is featured in Modern Ethics in 77 Arguments: A Stone Reader. His doctoral work at the University of Oxford examines the theology of evil in the writings of Paul Ricoeur. Prior to attending seminary, Steven was a journalist based in Vilnius, Lithuania.

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How well do you take care of yourself? What have you learned, and what have you unlearned to do what is popularly called "adulting?" I find it hard sometimes! It's so much easier to pin the responsibility on others, to blame partners, parents, or bosses when our needs are not being met. That's not a surprise, discomfort is never comfortable.

My guest today is Erin Weber-Johnson, and we talk about "adulting" and so much more. We talk about feeling our vulnerability at work and the courage it takes to deal with it.  We discuss how our lives surprise and disappoint us. What we feel and think about our worth, our value as human beings. We talk about what we ask our bodies to carry, often unconsciously, and how miraculously healing gestures of connection can be.

Please know that two difficult topics come up in our conversation: suicide and miscarriage. I believe in the support of sharing these stories, and being mindful of when we are at a place to take these stories in.  I hope you enjoy this conversation. Please consider taking a moment to like, rate, and/or subscribe to this podcast wherever you listen!

Erin Weber-Johnson - Bio

Erin Weber-Johnson is Senior Consultant at Vandersall Collective, a faith based, woman-led consulting firm and Primary Faculty of Project Resource. In 2017 she co-founded the Collective Foundation, which worked to address the gap in giving characteristics in faith communities of color. In 2022 she co-founded The Belonging Project, a movement designed to reimagine belonging across the ecclesial landscape.

Previously, Erin worked as the Senior Program Director at the Episcopal Church Foundation, as a grants officer at Trinity Wall Street in New York City, and served as a missionary for the Episcopal Church. She holds a BS from Greenville University, a Masters of Public Administration for NYU and is currently completing a second masters in Religion and Theology from United Theological Seminary.

A published author, she strives to root her work in practical theology while utilizing her experience in the nonprofit sector. Her co-edited book, Crisis and Care: Meditations on Faith and Philanthropy is available through Cascade Books.

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Just what is it about our feelings that we do not want to feel? Is it that we are reminded of our imperfections, lack of control, and inability to manage everything - even ourselves - despite our most glorious efforts? And how much of what we think about our feelings have we examined? To see or try to see where our resistance comes from?

My guest today is Greg Cochran, and like me, some of his early experiences led him to wander away – and directly leave – ingrained teachings about what he was and wasn't supposed to feel and what he was supposed to think about those feelings. Now, in the words of the poet Rumi, he welcomes all of it.

I think this conversation supports us in learning how we can welcome all of who we are - and find, a way to connect with "our desire to move towards wholeness, however, we name that wholeness." Yes – and yes. I'm so grateful he welcomed being in conversation with me.

Greg Cochran - Bio

Greg Cochran is a spiritual companion; executive director at Well for the Journey in Lutherville, MD; adjunct staff for Shalem Institute’s Spiritual Guidance Program in Washington, D.C. and for PASEO Spiritual Direction Program in Idaho; and a minister. He is a woodworker, a photographer, a sojourner with and within Creation, a husband, dad, friend, and a pilgrim in this world. 

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For women, titles can be complicated - especially in the church. My guest today is Father Cathie Caimano, a colleague, friend, and the first ordained woman I ever saw behind the altar and in a pulpit at church. Back then, I tell her, that rocked my inner Roman Catholic world! In today's conversation, we talk about being women priests, why she goes by Fr. Cathie, online dating, and of course, some of the dreams we have for a more expansive faith community. Regardless of your profession and whether or not church is a part of your world I think you will enjoy listening to her story of calling and career and the ways in which she lives into her intuitive sense of sharing her gifts.

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Bio - Fr. Cathie Caimano

The Rev. Cathie Caimano, ‘Fr. Cathie’, is an Episcopal priest and CEO (‘Chief Optimism Evangelist’) of Free Range Priest, empowering clergy and congregations to reimagine ministry in the digital age. She’s also the founder of the online community Bring Church to People, for ministers ‘doing’ and being church in new ways. She believes we’re in the resurrection business. She lives with her husband and adorable Great Dane near Charlotte, NC, and gets all her best ideas while running.

The two churches we discuss are St. Philip's Episcopal Church in Durham, NC and The Church of the Holy Trinity in NYC.

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What is your calling? Do you have more than one? Is your calling what drives your career? How about your vocation? When I was a kid, I thought we got one – one calling, one career - and our job was too perfect it. It didn’t turn out that way – thank God. And I share that sentiment with many friends and colleagues.

In my conversation today with Lisa Tilstra, a leadership coach, consultant, facilitator, and creator and host of the podcast “Make Life Less Difficult," I ask her to share some of her story about one of her earliest professional titles – that of chaplain.

Google chaplain, and you’ll discover a chaplain is a spiritual companion. Ordination isn’t the point or a necessity – what is necessary is a heart that is drawn to bear witness to the holy humanity within each one of us. Humanity we choose to share in our stories.

Lisa, in my opinion, is still a spiritual companion, if not technically, a chaplain. She lives into a purposeful calling to encourage people to share their stories in varied formats, workshops and conversations. What a gift and a joy to learn more about the thoughts and feelings that came from those experiences and to find those places of support and resonance that come through intentional conversation. 

Lisa Tilstra - Bio

Originally from the United States, Lisa has lived and worked in the Philippines, Saudi Arabia, the Netherlands, France, and currently, Sri Lanka. Her work extends around the globe. She’s served individual coaching clients from 20+ countries, conducting training in over 30 countries, and had participants in her courses from over 80 countries.

Lisa summarizes her work via a quote by Mary Anne Evans (aka George Eliot): "What do we live for, if it is not to make life less difficult for each other?" She hosts a podcast, Make Life Less Difficult, that is based on exploring what it means to make life less difficult for each other. Lisa is married to John, a US Diplomat. Together, they enjoy paragliding, rock climbing, sailing, outdoor adventuring, travel, and managing a real estate investment business.

Click here for Lisa's website.  Click here for Lisa on LinkedIn.

Lisa's podcast, Make Life Less Difficult, can be found on Apple Podcasts, Spotify, and other podcast platforms.

Click here for the conversation with Greg Boyle and Krista Tippett that Lisa and I discussed!

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Theologian and author Howard Thurman once said, "We are attracted to the sound of the genuine." Episcopal priest and my good friend and colleague, the Rev. Mark Robin Collins is about as genuine as it gets. I hope you enjoy his wit and wisdom as much as I do as we share what we think about the energizing and perplexing feelings we have as pastors in a genuinely challenging time for the church - along with some other topics like parents, grief, and that imposter syndrome!

The Rev. Mark Robin Collins is an Episcopal priest and rector of All Saints’ Episcopal Church in Glen Rock, New Jersey. He serves on the Commission on Ministry for the Diocese of Newark and is co-chair of the diocese’s Strategic Visioning process. Previously, he served at Christ & St. Stephen’s and Church of the Holy Trinity in Manhattan after graduating from General Theological Seminary in New York with prizes for preaching and church history. His seminary experience included study at Canterbury Cathedral in England as a Canterbury Scholar. Mark’s other ministries include being a parish Stewardship consultant and leading retreats for LGBTQ+ people recovering from addiction.

Prior to seminary, Mark worked as a fundraiser for the International Rescue Committee, the Wildlife Conservation Society, and City Harvest. Mark has been an abortion rights advocate and clinic defender, AIDS activist and fundraiser, and an advocate for LGBTQ+ rights. He and his husband Denton will celebrate the 27th year of their relationship later this year. Yes, that is a slight Southern accent -- Mark is originally from Memphis, Tennessee.

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Here's a little bit about my podcast project, who I am and what I'm doing here. Thanks for listening!

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Welcome to Feeling Beings Who Think. Thanks for checking out this intro to my podcast!

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