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Turbitt and Duck
On this podcast you will hear stories from amazing people who do amazing things in libraries and beyond from Australia and the rest of the world.
Welcome to Episode 2!
We talk about our presentation at the LIANZA Open 17 conference, why we decided to start podcasting and why saying no is important. Plus why getting things wrong can be good!
Here’s what we mentioned during this episode:
Our Open Sesame! slides and the live recording. Plus the Storify of our LIANZA presentation.
The article we both read whilst nodding furiously!
And the anonymous librarian Twitter account and the blog post which explains how the account came about. Bonus ideas and links! Some small challenges that will increase your visibility:
Start a conversation online or a colleague Write an article for your association’s magazine Start a blog or write a guest blog post for someone else Join a group or volunteer at an event Take the minutes at a team meeting or present to your colleagues about an event you went to Participate in a Twitter chat or join a GLAM Facebook group.
Hot tip: if you’re worried about sharing your ideas e.g. a blog post, use IFTTT or an auto-scheduler to send it out for you, instead of battling through your fears to press post and send!
Networking for introverts and librarians.
Why taking baby steps can be better than big bold dinner parties plans!
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich
Kat Moody is a reformed museum professional who works in public libraries and has been adventuring around the GLAMR sector since the nineties. In the United Kingdom, Kat worked in the libraries and / or archives of various military museums and in New Zealand, after various adventures, is now based with Christchurch City Libraries.
In this episode we discussed:
Tūranga – Christchurch Central Library. Caring for the communities following the Canterbury earthquakes: How the GLAM sector responded. FingerTip Library at Christchurch City Libraries. National Digital Forum. Canterbury 100. Reflections on the commemoration of World War One conference. #KnitWithTurbittNDuck “Empty” – by Kat Moody for Library Whisperers. Follow Kat’s crochet porgs on Instagram – @porgsofrangiora Wartime Knitting Revived. “A Bit of a Stink” – Kat Moody for Christchurch City Libraries.
Kat’s suggestion for our listeners:
Do: something you enjoy at work, or go outside for a nice walk at lunch time, take some time to think or reflect, or have a play on Trove or Papers Past and find a random story about library toilets!
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Turbitt & Duck travelled to Coffs Harbour in November to record live interviews with delegates and keynotes at SWITCH 2018. SWITCH is the NSW Public Libraries Association’s annual conference with delegates from all over NSW in attendance. There’s a focus on building partnerships with local councils, advocacy, library new builds and renovations and library funding. Take a look at #SWITCH2018 on Twitter to see the wide ranging issues and work being done in NSW public libraries.
We spoke to Councillor Dallas Tout from the NSWPLA Executive Committee, Paula Kelly Paull from Hobsons Bay City Council, Gavin Carnegie from Local Government Professionals Australia NSW, Theresa Jude from Lachlan Shire Library Services and Robert Knight, Executive Director, Riverina Regional Library.
In this episode we discussed:
NSWPLA and what they do. Condobolin Library renovation. The Geography of Yes – Leonee Ariel Derr Renew Our Libraries – if you live in NSW, please take the time to contact your local MP and ask them for more funding for NSW public libraries!
And here’s homework from Gavin Carnegie!
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Sadly, Bine passed away in 2022. We miss her energy and spark but are grateful to have this memory of her.
Sabine Weber-Beard worked for the Far North District Libraries as the Systems Librarian for all six branches and also managed the smallest in Kaeo. She was active in the New Zealand library community, as the Northland Ambassador for the National Digital Forum, a member of the LIANZA Hikuwai committee and she was also on the wider working group to get the WLIC2020 to Auckland.
Sabine’s passion for her work, asking why and finding solutions will leave you feeling energised and excited about libraries! In this episode we discuss:
LIANZA Hikuwai committee National Digital Forum Bine’s award for National Outstanding Service to Public Libraries Award IFLA World Library & Information Congress 2020 in , Auckland 2020 Prime Minister Jacinda Ardern’s IFLA video Sabine’s Instagram account!
Bine’s suggestions for our listeners:
Read – something for pleasure. Do – Smile and ask. If you want to find out something, ask. If you don’t ask, you won’t find out. Think – positive. Do – Roll with it!
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Maeva Masterson is the Manager Library Sector Services at Northern Territory Library. Maeva began her career in the Australian Army before making the jump to library services. With more than 15 years’ experience in working in both remote locations and internationally, Maeva is a results-focused library services professional providing strategic advice enabling Northern Territory Libraries to become sustainable leaders with a focus on best practice and innovation.
In this episode we discuss:
Galiwin’ku in East Arnhem Land Innovative pilot in Galiwin’ku Community Library: classifying library collections according to local cultural concepts Galiwin’ku library closes book on the Dewey Decimal System to prioritise Yolngu culture Northern Territory public libraries
Homework from Maeva:
Visit your local library or workplace and think about the following questions: What does your library reflect? What world view is expressed? Does your library only reflect the standard Australian (or New Zealand or American) world view or does it have the capacity to reflect back to marginalised members of the community? Does the space recognise that their world views and knowledge are just as important?
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Edward Luca is a library practitioner and researcher. He spends most of his time as Manager, Academic Services at the University of Sydney Library, but also dabbles in teaching, research, and anything shiny that appear in front of him. Edward describes research as his side hustle and he is actively involved in research on user experience, scholarly communication practices, embedded librarianship and systematic review processes. Edward speaks eloquently about why librarian-researcher collaborations are crucial for knowledge sharing and the importance of co-authorship on academic papers in demonstrating library impact in research. In this episode we discuss:
Library Signage By Design: A Design-Thinking Approach to Library User Experience Complete list of Edward’s research and writing.
Recommendations from Edward:
Kate Bush – Hounds of Love, Side 2. Don’t forget candles and/or bath! Think about your job. Think about one particular problem or particular thing that irks you and chat to your clients about it. What do they think? Is it a problem for them? What would make things better?
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Pamela McGowan was the Team Manager of Libraries at Townsville City Council. After being reminded about the magic of libraries when teaching in a remote Indigenous school in the Northern Territory, she completed a Graduate Diploma of Teacher Librarianship and a Masters of Information and Knowledge Management externally while working as an ICT classroom coach. As someone who’s always keen to try different things, Pamela’s experience in libraries includes coordinating a literature festival, creating ePublishing workshops, conducting outreach events to businesses and leading teams through different changes. In all of these roles, meeting community needs and encouraging learning have been a strong focus. Pamela was selected to be part of INELi Oceania Cohort 2 as an innovator; which has been a life changing experience due to the networks that have been formed within the Pacific region and the potential for the library community to contribute to the achievement of the Sustainable Development Goals. In her spare time, Pamela enjoys following American sports (especially the Seattle Seahawks), discovering new places and reading thousands of board books with her son. Side note: Pamela’s son has had 11393 books read to him and counting! OMG! In this episode we discuss:
Yuendumu INELI-Oceania program Australian government page about SDGs ALIA SDG toolkit National Archives of Fiji Opeta Alefalo keynote from #APLIC18 CityLibraries Townsville FB page CityLibraries Townsville website Townsville City Council Orlando Bloom post (the comments are also amazing) Twitter thread from Pamela!
Recommendations from Pamela:
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Clare Thorpe (yes she’s back and convinced Turbitt & Duck to be the interviewees instead of interviewers!) interviews Sally & Amy about why library people need to focus on building physical, professional, social and emotional resilience. The discussion also includes why Amy is always learning, how Sally chooses projects and where they both find their professional development inspiration.
In this episode we discuss:
Michael Stephen’s keynote at APLIC How one conversation helped me understand 30 years of learning by Amy Walduck Podcasts: Clear & Vivid with Alan Alda, Potential Psychology with Ellen Jackson, Don’t Keep Your Day Job with Cathy Heller. Brain.fm
Recommendation from Sally:
Not perfect, just done – letting go of perfectionism.
Recommendation from Amy:
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Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Alissa McCulloch, perhaps better known by her twitter handle @lissertations, is the most passionate and enthusiastic cataloguer you’ve ever met. She’s a new librarian with big dreams about the future of library metadata, and how it might be used to help people feel welcomed, supported and empowered by libraries. Alissa works to decolonise the GLAM sector and support the labour of library workers in times of austerity. Outside of libraries, Alissa can be found creating zines, cataloguing beer cans, and taking trams to nowhere. She blogs at lissertations.net.
In this episode we discuss:
Cataloguing the Universe (ofc) Cataloguing and classifying board and tabletop games / Catalogue and Index MARC Must Die / Roy Tennant, 2002 Violet Fox’s Cataloging Lab Another Word for ‘Illegal Alien’ at the Library of Congress: Contentious / NY Times, 2016 The Revolution Will Not Be Standardized / Angela Galvan, VALA2018 Never neutral: critical librarianship and technology / Meredith Farkas Passion of a Young Cataloger / Junli Diao Vocational Awe and Librarianship: The Lies We Tell Ourselves / Fobazi Ettarh Zine Union Catalog Sticky Institute Melbourne
Recommendations from Alissa:
Check out Aussie GLAM bloggers on @AusGLAMBlogs, join the conversation on Twitter or start your own blog.
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Sarah Howard is currently the Acting Branch Library Manager of the Gardens Point Campus at Queensland University Technology, but in her substantive role is a QUT Liaison Librarian for the Schools of Nursing and Optometry & Vision Science. With over ten years experience in Academic Libraries, and a strong interest in teaching with mobile technologies, Sarah has worked on a variety of projects exploring the use of virtual and augmented reality.
In this episode we discuss:
Tilt Brush MineSim Virtual reality content for higher education curriculum. In VALA, 13-15 February, 2018, Melbourne, Australia. IKEA Augmented Reality App Google Cardboard WEARVR Lifeprint Wallame Virtual Bacon and Augmented Eggs. Bring Virtual and Augmented Reality to Your Library – APLIC 2018 workshop VirtualSpeech #virtualreality Aurasma (now HP Reveal)
Recommendations from Sarah:
Put on a headset and give it a go!
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Philip Minchin has worked in publishing, arts production, NGO governance and campaigning, and now works in library IT in Melbourne. In addition to fulltime work in the library sector, he presents, trains, and consults to libraries and game companies on libraries, communities, games, interactivity, systems and UI design. He also volunteers for International Games Week (November 4-10 in 2018), and recently ran a free showcase series of games-based PD for GLAM folks. You can read more and contact him at philipminchin.com.
In this episode we discuss:
Journey – the game. Artemis Spaceship Bridge Simulator In praise of tabletop games: Part 1 Dungeons & Dragons Magic The Gathering Werewolf Fiasco Sign – FREE!
Recommendations from Philip:
Play: how it shapes the brain, opens the imagination and invigorates the soul – Stuart Brown with Christopher Vaughan People, Systems, and the Game of Monopoly – Allan G Johnson Homo ludens: a study of the play-element in culture – J. Huizinga Games and play – Starting Points
We love comments and reviews so let us know what you thought of this episode by leaving a review and rating on iTunes (this helps other people find our podcast too). And make sure you follow us on Twitter, Instagram. Join us to chat and support each other in our GLAM work.
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Justin Hoenke is a human being who has worked in public libraries all over the United States and is currently the Executive Director of the Benson Memorial Library in Titusville, Pennsylvania. Before that, he was Coordinator of Tween/Teen Services at the Chattanooga Public Library in Chattanooga, Tennessee where Justin created The 2nd Floor, a 14,000 square foot space for ages 0-18 that brought together learning, fun, creating, and public events. Justin is a member of the 2010 American Library Association Emerging Leaders class and was named a Mover and Shaker in 2013 by the publication Library Journal. His professional interests include public libraries as community centres, library management, video games, and creative spaces. Follow Justin on Twitter at @justinlibrarian and read his blog at www.justinthelibrarian.com.
In this episode we discuss:
A New Career In A New Town blog series by Justin Hoenke Pinkerton (album) by Weezer (band), 1996 Local woman tracks down biological family, The Titusville Herald Raina Telgemeier Justin’s belltower! Pennsylvania Library Association
Fast Internet Is Chattanooga’s New Locomotive
Recommendations from Justin:
Don’t be afraid of using open source technology in your library e.g. Koha, Linux Take the time to go outside for a walk during your work day, observe and enjoy the world! Tranquility Base Hotel & Casino (album) by Arctic Monkeys (band), 2018
Contact Justin on Twitter or LinkedIn.
Visit the Turbitt & Duck Redbubble store to buy our merchandise!
We love comments and reviews so let us know what you thought of this episode by leaving a review and rating on iTunes (this helps other people find our podcast too). And make sure you follow us on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook and you can join our new Facebook group – The Fishpond! Join us to chat and support each other in our GLAM work.
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
Nathan ‘Mudyi’ Sentance works on First Nations programming at the Australian Museum in Sydney and writes at Archival Decolonist. We talked to Nathan about why we must be critical when visiting cultural institutions, putting complexity into collections and why cultural institutions are not neutral.
In this episode we discuss:
Gadi Exhibition at the Australian Museum Weave: Festival of Aboriginal and Pacific Cultures The Red Chief My ancestors are in our memory institutions, but their voices are missing Your neutral is not our neutral Garrigarang: Sea Country Indigenous X AIATSIS Interactive Map of Indigenous Australia Four Thousand Fish by Emily McDaniel
Contact Nathan on Twitter @SaywhatNathan.
We love comments and reviews so let us know what you thought of this episode by leaving a review and rating on iTunes (this helps other people find our podcast too). And make sure you follow us on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook and you can join our new Facebook group – The Fishpond! Join us to chat and support each other in our GLAM work.
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and sound by Inspector J
From her blogger beginnings as Persnickety Snark, Adele Walsh has been an advocate and champion for youth literature, and its intended teen audience. As the Program Coordinator for the State Library of Victoria’s Centre for Youth Literature, Adele creates, designs, implements, and evaluates learning and literacy programs built around and for young people. Under her leadership, initiatives including the Reading Matters conference, Story Camp, and the Inky Awards have flourished to become established, highly regarded literary institutions. Outside of her day-to-day role, Adele is an in-demand moderator, presenter, and teacher, an ongoing outspoken advocate for youth readers, and founding co-host of the literary podcast, Unladylike.
In this episode we discuss:
March For Our Lives NAPLAN Sydney Writers Festival, Melbourne Writers Festival, Brisbane Writers Festival John Marsden & Hachette Australia Prize for Young Writers administered by Express Media Love & Basketball movie Black Hands podcast
Say hi to Adele on Twitter at @snarkywench!
We love comments and reviews so let us know what you thought of this episode by leaving a review and rating on iTunes (this helps other people find our podcast too). And make sure you follow us on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook!
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Music by Richard Frohlich and sounds by GameAudio
(Looking for part 1? It’s here!)
Episode 12 is a BIG episode, so big it’s in two parts! We joined The Library Pros, Chris DeCristofaro and Bob Johnson on Google Hangouts to talk about library spaces, customer service and why tech help and readers’ advisory is great publicity for your library.
Here are all the links from parts 1 and 2:
The Library Pros Gold Coast Libraries and Amy’s Pop Up Library Australian Library and Information Association Sachem Public Library Emma S. Clarke Memorial Library The Library Pros, Episode 37 – An Evening with Herb Biblo Ellen Druda owes us $11USD/$14.37 AUD each Technology Information Forum, Suffolk County Library Association SLQ Business Studio The Library, Newcastle Queensland University of Technology Library Adelphi University Library Collaborative Spaces Long Island University, Post Campus Library University of Technology Sydney Library Retrieval System – it’s not 10 stories deep, it’s 5 stories. Oops (Sally) Turbitt & Duck, Episode 4 – Rob Thomson talks library technicians, library tours and just turning up! Lindsay and Venetta Fields with John Farnham Wynnum Library Suffolk Cooperative Library System The Library Pros, Episode 18 – The Suffolk Cooperative Library System
Make sure you follow The Library Pros on Twitter and Facebook. You can also connect with Chris and Bob on Twitter too.
And we’d love to know what you think of this episode, so please leave us a comment below or on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram.
One last thing! We have just started a Facebook group! Come and join us in the Turbitt & Duck Fish Pond to share GLAMR ideas, discuss issues and support each other in our endeavours as GLAMR professionals!
Sally & Amy
Sounds by Inspector J
(Looking for part 2? It’s here!)
Episode 12 is a BIG episode, so big it’s in two parts! We joined The Library Pros, Chris DeCristofaro and Bob Johnson on Google Hangouts to talk about library spaces, customer service and the fact that everything library staff do is great advertising for the library.
Here are all the links from parts 1 and 2:
The Library Pros Gold Coast Libraries and Amy’s Pop Up Library Australian Library and Information Association Sachem Public Library Emma S. Clarke Memorial Library The Library Pros, Episode 37 – An Evening with Herb Biblo Ellen Druda owes us $11USD/$14.37 AUD each Technology Information Forum, Suffolk County Library Association SLQ Business Studio The Library, Newcastle Queensland University of Technology Library Adelphi University Library Collaborative Spaces Long Island University, Post Campus Library University of Technology Sydney Library Retrieval System – it’s not 10 stories deep, it’s 5 stories. Oops (Sally) Turbitt & Duck, Episode 4 – Rob Thomson talks library technicians, library tours and just turning up! Lindsay and Venetta Fields with John Farnham Wynnum Library Suffolk Cooperative Library System The Library Pros, Episode 18 – The Suffolk Cooperative Library System
Make sure you follow The Library Pros on Twitter and Facebook. You can also connect with Chris and Bob on Twitter too.
And we’d love to know what you think of this episode, so please leave us a comment below or on Facebook, Twitter or Instagram.
One last thing! We have just started a Facebook group! Come and join us in the Turbitt & Duck Fish Pond to share GLAMR ideas, discuss issues and support each other in our endeavours as GLAMR professionals!
Sally & Amy
Sounds by Inspector J
Sally Pewhairangi doesn’t have any magic beans or secret sauce. But she does have 20 plus years library experience and wants to share what she has learned to help us all improve our digital practice. She believes “…confidence matters just as much as competence in digital literacy.” We also discuss contract work, the gig economy and what it’s like to explore an entrepreneurial project like The Library Boss.
In this episode we discuss:
The Library Boss website and quiz Heroes Mingle Cerries Mooney (entrepreneur) She Means Business by Carrie Green (book)
Say hi to Sally on Twitter, let her know what your quiz result was and earn some badges by commenting on The Library Boss!
We love comments and reviews so let us know what you thought of this episode by leaving a review and rating on iTunes (this helps other people find our podcast too). And make sure you follow us on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook!
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Music by Richard Frohlich and sounds by metaepitome
Episode 10 . . . we’ve hit double digits!
A big thanks to everyone who answered our call on social media for questions, you rock! This episode is a mixture of career chat, book vs movies, essential digital skills, pineapples, podcasting equipment ideas and advice for first-time library users.
Here are the links from this episode:
This Is What A Librarian Looks Like: a Celebration of Libraries, Communities and Access to Information ALIA Students and New Graduates Group (SNGG) have a resume review service for new or soon to be graduates and hold events on interview techniques and resume writing. This post is an excellent summary of an interview skills workshop held in 2017. If you think your resume might need a revamp, take at look at this article about why you should be using your resume to tell dragon slaying stories. Book before movie? Or movie before book? You tell us! Take a look at Amy’s website, Pineapple Glam. She regularly shares her favourite online tools including the Google Power Searching lessons. Our recording setup consists of two Blue Yeti microphones with pop filters connected to laptops, Google Hangouts so we can see each other and our guest, Audacity for editing and Blurbrry for hosting the episodes. Plus loads of YouTube tutorials! And lastly, Sally’s favourite piece of writing for when life is challenging – It will be sunny one day, a letter written by Stephen Fry.
We love comments and reviews so let us know what you thought of this episode by leaving a review and rating on iTunes (this helps other people find our podcast too). And make sure you follow us on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook!
Sally & Amy
Music by Richard Frohlich and InspectorJ
Episode 9, we are nearly in double digits!
If you think that Eurovision is just silly costumes and awful songs, prepare to have your mind changed. Dr Jess Carniel joined us to talk about her research on Eurovision in Australia and what she has found out about why people love it (it’s not what you think). Jess also talked about why she think it’s important to follow your interests in research and to be ready to change direction quickly in the middle of a project. She also shared her advice on writing for publication, building a research network and making your ideas and work accessible for everyone. There’s plenty of Eurovision and #librarylove chat as well !
In this episode we discuss:
Jess’s favourite Eurovision song: Svetlana Loboda – Be My Valentine (Anti-Crisis Girl) (one of) Sally’s favourite Eurovision songs: Cezar – It’s My Life Papers written by Jess Chow Down to Eurovision 2013-2015 by Jason at Don’t Boil the Sauce Livraria Lelo, Porto The Interval Act at the 2016 competition is a four minute crash course on how to write a winning Eurovision song, brilliant!: Måns Zelmerlöw and Petra Mede – Love Love Peace Peace
Say hi to Jess on Twitter and follow her travels to Portugal for Eurovision 2018.
We love comments and reviews so let us know what you thought of this episode by leaving a review and rating on iTunes (this helps other people find our podcast too). And make sure you follow us on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook!
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In episode eight, we’re joined by Katie Lumsden, a librarian from New Zealand who specialises in supporting dyslexic patrons. She chats about her own experiences growing up dyslexic and gives us tips for how to make books accessible for dyslexic readers.
In this episode we discuss:
Live gritter tracking in Scotland Hi-Lo / High-Low / High-interest, Low-readability books Christchurch City Libraries Guidelines for Library Services to Persons with Dyslexia – Best practice British Dyslexia Association Style Guide Web Accessibility Initiative (WAI) with Tim Berners-Lee LIANZA 2017 presentation by Katie Lumsden – How to support people with dyslexia to use your library: It’s more than Readers Advisory and Hi-Lo books Visualisation of what dyslexia looks like for Katie
Find and contact Katie through Twitter @KatieLumsdenNZ
We love comments and reviews so let us know what you thought of this episode by leaving a review and rating on iTunes (this helps other people find our podcast too). And make sure you follow us on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook!
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Music by Richard Frohlich
Pixie Stardust and James Wilson to tell us about the committee’s plans, why Adelaide is a great place to visit and how the symposium theme – Collaborate, Deviate, Innovate came about.
Meet the NLS9 committee and follow the team on Instagram and Twitter for updates and announcements. Don’t forget Twitter lists – the NLS account has a growing collection! Libraries of South Australia ‘one card‘. Dead and Buried podcast . Adelaide City Library, Jeffrey Smart Building at the University of South Australia and Cove Civic Centre are two of the excellent libraries mentioned by Pixie. Love the 360° tour of the City Library! Connect with Pixie on Instagram and James on Twitter.
We love comments and reviews so let us know what you thought of this episode by leaving a review and rating on iTunes (this helps other people find our podcast too). And make sure you follow us on Twitter, Instagram or Facebook!
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