The Journey Onwards with Anand Dattani: Recent Episodes
Anand Dattani
I have the fortune of speaking with some brilliant minds who all share the commonality of growing as third culture kids. We explore how their family culture and backstory had an influence on their upbringing; and we discuss what role it's played in defining their own values, passions and the perspectives they have on popular life topics. From the light-hearted memories around of growing up in a household with completely different different traditions to those of their schoolfriends, to the more serious topics of finding your identity and place in a mixed (or not so mixed!) society, Season 3 promises to bring you entertainment and thought-provoking content in every episode.
Warning: this episode contains some very graphic and upsetting talking points.
"I looked like something out of a horror film" [Nina Aouilk]
Nina, who was almost the victim of an honour killing, was subject to violence by her family and in her marriage, on more than a few occasions. Having defied all odds by surviving, she now coaches high-performing and high-achieving men and women to maximise their potential, while also raising awareness to end honour killings across the globe.
We discuss:
- Why cultural restrictions and religious violence occurs
- The toxic side of cultures that value the 'collective' above the value of an individual
- Living under modern day slavery and domestic violence
- School as a place of solace and escape
- How to eliminate mental and physical abuse of children in their own household
- Being forced to marry at the age of 15 against her will
- Being attacked by her own family as part of an attempted 'honour killing' [40mins]
- Why Honour Killings are seen more in certain societies and cultures
Useful links:
Find out more, or get in touch with Nina: ninaaouilk.com
Listen to her TedX here
Find her on Instagram
"then one day we wake up and we realise 'crap, I don't have any friends and no one taught me how to make friends.."
Lucas speaks openly about the vital lessons he learned only after he had already moved from the US to the Middle East.
The process he speaks about in this snippet could be the vital insight that will help you understand if relocating abroad would be the right thing for you. Lucas gives a very personal account of what he'd once minsunderstood about moving to a foreign country, and his humbling realisations that allowed him to eventually find his way - not just for hmself, but for his family too.
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Taylor Roark, founder of Galliant Trainings is an avid traveller and a taoist at heart. But it hasn't always been that way. In this snippet, Taylor brings to light an extremely valuable life lesson that he gained through his own experiences that many can learn from.
You can listen to the full episode here (click on the subscribe button on the left to find the links to Apple, Google, Spotify and other podcast platforms)
You can also get in touch with Taylor on LinkedIn
In this weeks ThursdayThrowback, I relive asking AmyK why she chose Shanghai, China (a place I've lived in myself), and what it made it life changing for her.
Listen to the full episode here
Throwback Thursday - each week youu'll get the chance to relive some of the highlights from Season 2 and 3 of the podcast. The aim is to provide you quick snippets of valuable and practical content to listen to on-the-go.
AmyK discusses the importance of changing yourself and 'cleaning up your internal mess' before you can truly be happy for others, without feeling envy, pain or the need to talk bad about them to feel better about it [full conversation in Season 2 Episode 1]
Listen to the full episode here
I wanted to fundamentally solve this problem and give everyone, everywhere, the same access and availability. It doesn't matter if you are from a village in the Sudan or New York, you can share in the world's financial ecosystem all the same."
In this episode, we discuss:
- Breaking out of his American-centric mindset and the first trip to China
- His biggest shock / surprise when first moving to China.
- The struggle of applying for jobs just before the 2008 financial crisis
- The 10 days that changed his life
- What his parents moving to America with nothing did for his work ethic
- How to deal with the common visa problems of moving to China
- What it means to have 'China days'
- How his passion to enable people and spread knowledge came out through his role in Finance
- Where did his selfless desire to educate and help others begin?
- Appreciating cultural differences the more you see the world.
- How his constant search to increase opportuinties for more people brought him to his current venture leveraging blockchain in finance, Idoru.
- One key value the West can learn from China that would help them develop better.
About the Guest
Born and raised in America, Mike self-proclaimed to having a "very American mindset".. that was until he went to China in 2008 to fulfil a dream of watching the Olympics. Here he discovered a world of possibility beyond the confines of a single country.
He studied abroad in Beijing and Shanghai and moved to China in 2014 where he was a founding member of a Chinese credit underwriting firm and served as a Director for 6 years until 2020. Afterwards, realizing the tremendous opportunity in the democratization of the financial system which could be brought about by cryptoassets, Mr. Beda pivoted and founded Idoru Capital Management, headquartered in Estonia, where he serves as President and CEO; a company looking to bring the same financial opportunities to everyone as the Top 1%.
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Have you listened to Part 1.. if not, you'll want to head to Episode 25 first!
In Part 2, we discuss:
- Having a Hindu (Jain) mother and Muslim father..
- Not all Hindu's and Muslims were in conflict - our grandparents are prime examples
- The good (and bad) side of being raised to always do good for people
- Learning that we can't please everyonoe
- The importance of her brother in her life
- Riwa shares one of her most embarassing memories (it's comedy gold!)
- ... and also a slightly more sad one (which we can laugh about now)
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WARNING: expect laughter
In Part 1, we discuss:
- Dealing with digestive discomforts :'D
- Being aware of your body's symptoms and reluctance of the older generation to change
- Starting Majama inspired by a personal search to feel better inside and out
- How the name 'Majama' was created.
- The (fasincating) story of her parents (Bollywood watch out!)
- Paying respect to her incrdible grandad
- Being influenced by her mum's strong spirited character
In this episode, I refer to this article interview
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In Part 2, we discuss:
- Feeling like an 'inbetweener' in high school and learning how to navigate different social groups- The downside to being 'likeable'- The identity struggle for many third culture kids- Why do people get the 'travel bug'?- Is Paul more like his mum or dad?- Choosing not to have social media accounts (except LinkedIn)- Are influencers lonely by nature?- What is a true measure of a real relationship?- Meeting Shanice, thanks to technology- The evolution of friendship groups - from multi-class to multi-cultural- Are race-related jokes (still) acceptable?- Understanding culture beyond just its ethnicity.- What does it mean to 'integrate'?
In part 1 of the 2-part conversation, we discuss:
- Seeing the positives and negatives in a desire to explore the world
- The influence of his grandad’s open-mindedness, and passion to travel and exploring other cultures
- How privilege can create an open-minded character
- Risk aversion vs. risk-taking in children of immigrants following their creative passions
- Life ‘behind the scenes’ for the families of the high achievers we hear about
- Is moderate success in your passion enough in order to ensure a more balanced life?
- Learning to be more purposeful in your choices
- How technology and automation is making us live in auto-pilot
Quotes by Paul
life’s always going to present you lots of different choices, and you have to trust your instinct that you making the right choices for yourslef\
its very easy to always exist in autopilot, and one of the key applications of technology is the design to make us more lazy
More About The Guest:
Read His Work: https://blog.idcomms.com/negative-views-on-media-rise-among-client-side-marketing-and-media-leaders
Connect with Paul on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paul-stringer-a328ba44/
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Noreen is a debut novelist and TedX speaker, having recently released her father's memoir in May 2021.
In this episode, we discuss:
- Writing her father's memoirs
- Ugandan Asians' lack of addressing their emotions and the story of being expelled from Uganda
- Understanding and 'appreciating' our previous generations' struggles (and vice versa?)
- What it means to be a 'positive disruptor' (the topic of her Tedx talk)
- The 3 keys to success of South Asians after Ugandan explusion
- Navigating an East Africa, Indian and Pakistani identity in a Catholic school
- The key to becoming a better communicator within different communities
- Not fitting into the stereotype of other South Asain schoolkids
- Deciding to write her debut book 'Expelled from Uganda'
- How to become free of who you think you're meant to be
- is globalisation and technology making cultures more appreciated or more diluted?
Quotes by Noreen:
"we are part of a generation that are all about self fulfilment and we are constantly for ourselves, our identifies, our labels.. and our battles are so much more different - to them, what was important was getting food on the table"
"this was my last hurdle, this was the last label that i needed to understand and fuse as part of me - and i had an urge to put it in the public"
"until you don't step out of your own shoes and try to gain perspective on other people's experiences, you can't fully see yourself as well"
"many people out there are almost trapped and enslvaed to their own version of who they THINK they are"
About Noreen
Noreen has led a successful and ongoing career for a over a decade in the field of further education as a Lecturer of Digital Arts and Creative Media. Ever since she had deep rooted conversations with her father of his experiences back in March 2019, Noreen decided it was high time it was documented. After gathering most of the details, they both decided there was enough material to publish a book. Noreen took to seeking writing courses and mentors who assisted her in finding her feet within the writing community. She joined a local writer's group in Sheffield, where she had the pleasure of having her poems published in an anthology. She had the opportunity to explore various themes, genres and ideas amongst experienced members of the group. It’s been a long journey and a labour of love, but her work is finally complete and is available to purchase on Amazon.
Watch Noreen on TedxDoncaster: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GnLCYWpG1hk
Get in Touch: https://www.noreennasim.com/contact
We discuss:
- Having a HUGE family and prestigious grandad
- Polygamy in the previous generations in Cameroon
- Learning one of the 250 dialects spoken in Cameroon
- Francophone vs. Anglophone Cameroon - history, tensions & recent instability
- Learning French and being the first guy in the family to move to Asia
- Remembering those first days in Tokyo, and learning Japanese.. in 8 months(!)
- How strict parents helped him persevere and create a great life in Japan
- Unexpected shock for Japanese going to Cameroon vs. a Cameroonian going to Japan
- Playing American Football at University
- ChamCham shares an embarrassing story he's NEVER shared with any of his other friends before!!
Quotes
"When I got out of high school, my thing was I want to go to the best university in the country"
"If I didn't persevere, I might have not stayed as long as I have in this country"
"We [Africans] are not time conscious, but in Japan, that is the one thing that can ruin a relationship"
"Stop Failing, Stay Hungry & Stay Foolish"
Find ChamCham on Instagram @afro_chamcham
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We discuss:
- Comparing the Uganda of 50 years ago to what it's like now
- The lost strong sense of community of Ugandan Asians after leaving Uganda
- Growing up in a competitive household
- Learning to play chess with cut up paper pieces and becoming the first female chess champion of her age (Queen's Gambit!)
- Discovering a love for poetry & writing during lockdown
- How faith, perseverance & serendipity helped her find her place of birthMeeting her partner at a warehouse party
- Creating Dancefloor Recall - https://www.dancefloor-recall.com/ (follow the link; share your dancefloor love story!)
- Working on a project & travel exhibition for the 50th Anniversary of Ugandan Asian expulsion (for 2022)- Get in touch to find out more: https://www.instagram.com/ugandanasians/
- Is globalisation good or bad for the appreciation of different societies and cultures?
Quotes from the episode
"I always say that travel is very much in my DNA"
"At 40 I said I wanted to do something different, and I never did.. so when I was about to turn 50, I was like 'Right, I've got to change now'".
"My mum always said that if you ever wanted to find me, you'd find me with my head stuck in a book somewhere"
"I think it's important that not only do we tell our stories, but we shape our stories too"
"I don't think there's anything worse than going through life and doing things because that's what's expected of you"
"I'm still hoping to write that best novel, being the next J.K. Rowling, or Elizabeth Gilbert"
In the final part of our conversation, we discuss:
- Dealing with the repercussions of ’THAT’ story from Omed’s wedding (see Part 1 for full story)
- Introducing a non-Bengali partner to his parents
- Cross-cultural similarities in our family's background and mindset
- Traditional belief systems of marrying within the same ethnicity
- The role of social media in creating echo chambers of racism
- Are young generations exposed to too much too early in life?
Quotes from this episode
You don’t necessarily have to be with a Muslim to be a better Muslim
I'm not here to jiggle my titties, I'm here to tell you some stories
Encourage people to be open about how they feel, and try to limit judgment; judgment should be reserved for actual crime.
The more open you are with your vulnerabilities, the more likely you are to find ways to overcome them
DON'T FORGET TO CHECK OUT PART ONE IF YOU HAVEN'T YET
Listen to Doq's YouTube show here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClXNWf8lQWXIJrllQL_FnqA
If you don't already know who Doq is, check out the bonus episode before this, where I spend 30mins with him talking about all the weird and wonderful so that we could ease him of his initial nerves.
In this episode, we talk:
- Deal with anxiety of meeting new people.
- Accepting my insecurities in social settings.
- What does it mean to be ‘well read’?
- Appreciating video games as a form of art.
- Growing up in a household (and family culture) that lacked a focus on art & creativity.
- Issue with Asian parenthood culture and the future careers of their children.
- The limitations of the English language in poetry.
- Dropping out of university in 3rd year.
- Lack of mental health awareness and education in our parent’s generation.
- Being driven to humour in an attempt at pleasing his devout Muslim dad and wanted to make him laugh.
- Dealing with cancer - physically, mentally and socially - and realising his fortune in surviving, where others didn’t.
- The stereotypes of different cliques in school.
- Learning how to deal with embarrassment, including THAT story from Omed’s wedding. [laugh emoji]
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FUNNIEST EPISODE YET. An unorthodox introduction to a very special guest - an entertainer, a storyteller, a cancer-survivor and, above all else, a loyal friend, son and husband who has endless value to offer whether you want to laugh or be inspired by his special story. Ladies & gentlemen, I present this prelude to a fascinating, meaningful and inspiration conversation.
Watch Doq on Doqcast: For Me, Not You: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClXNWf8lQWXIJrllQL_FnqA
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In this episode, we discuss:
- Impacts of apartheid still being felt today in South Africa
- The rising 'brain drain' in South Africa and future impact on the nation
- Her grandmother's significant history with Nelson Mandela
- Comparing South African culture to American culture
- Adapting to the immense loving nature of Pisac, Peru
- Realising a calling for Coaching after her first Ayahuasca experience
- The long and forgotten history of the role and dominance of women in leadership
- The differences in the role of older women in Western vs Eastern traditions and society
- The gender of the soul - and personification as a female energy
- What is the difference between a leader and a manager?
- Would the world be a happier place if it operated under one belief system or one way of thinking?
Follow Rhea Naidoo to keep updated on the release of HeartSong - the podcast that relives her 30 day experience through the jungles, wilderness and journey of self-discovery and Ayahuasca. www.instagram.com/rhea_naidoo_
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British-born Bangladeshi, Shuwel Ahmed, opens up about the biggest failure in his life, which came when he moved to London for University, and how the disappointment felt worse given the backstory of his grandparents and parents that gave him the fortune of the opportunities he had. In this episode, he talks about how this sparked his determination to always give his full effort and know that whenever he has failed since then, it hasn't been because of his own complacency. Since then, he has gone to work at a global pharmaceutical company, speak at a TEDx, create the Pupils2Professionals initiative and currently has multi-million pound property portfolio.
We discuss:
- The story of how his father was given the opportunity to move from Bangladesh to the UK at the age of 13, where he began schooling while working 2 jobs.
- Planting the seed through Pupils2Professionals through growing up in an underprivileged part of the UK
- The key character traits he sees in his parents that he now sees in himself and his 2 brothers
- Experiencing a significant failure in his life that completely changed his mindset and determination
- How can the younger generation reach their potential without having to go through a significant, humbling failure first?
- Dealing with light-hearted racial prejudice during schooling years
- Learning from his father's regret following a life-threatening medical problem
- Realising the importance of investing time and money in meeting and connecting with people who know more than you do
- Understanding the difference self awareness vs. self belief to help you achieve your goals
- Will we be happier as a population 100 years from now?
Books recommended in this episode
Peak Performance: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/31450959-peak-performance
Factfulness: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/34890015-factfulness?ac=1&from_search=true&qid=aMzNsGbcNs&rank=1
Quotes
- when you're at a period when you're new in a country, and there's not so many of you around, you're much more inclined to help [those] others
- when I go to back, there's almost a village of people who are willing to do anything for me, and these are people who don't have a lot.. i see that as now a sense of responsibility to help.
- in my school, qualifying for free school meals meant your household income had to be £10,000 or below... my Dad wouldn't allow me to take the free school meals even thought we qualified for it
- I think there's ways that you can learn from your parents about the good things, but also some of the traits that you don't necessarily agree with- there's also a lesson in all of that
- that year was the most humbling year of my life.. at the end of it i said I am never ever going to put myself in a position where a lack of my effort has put me in this
- once you recognise the power of your family, and realise how much luck there is in all of it, you just want to make the most of it
Shuwel's previous podcast appearance (as mentioned in this episode): listen here
Get in contact:
With the guest: www.instagram.com/shuwel1
With the host: www.instagram.com/thejourneyonwardspodcast
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Don't forget to check out Part 1 if you haven't already.
In part 2, we discuss:
- Dealing with the culture shock of moving to Iran, and not 'fitting in'
- How can someone better connect with their culture and heritage?
- Social life in Iran vs the UK
- The importance of community in Iran
- Her desire to make substantial and impactful change in Iran
- Learning to set your expectations by finding your own purpose and not based on what society expects of you.
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In Part 1, we cover:
- How facing the challenges of a third culture kid while growing up helped her embrace and fit in
- Learning to embrace her Iranian side and overcoming the 'terrorist' propaganda with the help of a close friend
- How her dad ended up moving from Iran to the UK
- The crazy story of her mum being stranded in Germany on the way to the UK
- How did the Iranian revolution come 1979 come about?
- The very strong influence of British and American culture in Iran, from the perspective of an Iranian family
- the misunderstood history of Iran, dating back to the days of Zoroastrianism
- Appreciating Cyrus the Great and his multicultural approach
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We discuss:
- How I first came into contact with spiritually inclined youth.
- Where did the idea to use my summer holidays to stay in an ashram in India and serve with the monks come from?
- The feeling of coming back to the UK and navigating a spiritual existence and working in a Banking.
- Dealing with my own ego of thinking that finding spirituality has made me 'better' than others.
- What key lessons I learnt from my first trip to India, and learning to apply spiritual principles to your pursuits and goals without feeling you have to give up those dreams.
- Is spirituality for everyone?
- Meditating in India and implementing mantra meditation in my daily routine.
- The importance of my morning routine .
- The history and bigger vision of The Journey Onwards Podcast - the interactive, immersive family tree so that our ancestors stories can live on through audio podcasts and other multimedia.
- What does it mean to me to live a fulfilled life.
- Growing up with Jay Shetty and the influence he had on my spiritual journey.
- Deal with stress and using spirituality for stress management.
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About the Guest.
Music is Boluwatife (Bolu) Adefemi's passion. The singer-songwriter finds inspiration in everything around her and being a young Black woman, she has created a song for Black Lives Matter, as well as the ongoing COVID-19 pandemic. Her latest single 'Just Breathe' will be out in Summer 2021.
Bolu Adefemi is a 14 year old Canadian singer songwriter of Zimbabwean and Nigerian origin who emerged as an important new artist in the summer of 2020 with her internationally acclaimed song, “Make It Right,” a powerful call to action about social injustices. Just weeks after first performing the song publicly, she began performing it nationwide. She was honored with the Universal Women’s Network Award and is the 2020 Youth Excellence Ambassador, the 2020 Zimbabwe Young Achievers Award recipient, as well as being Theidealme Humanitarian Award nominee. Recently featured in The Hollywood Times, Bolu is also using her platform to better local communities in other ways, too (which include working with Pickering City on a pilot project fighting racism and a virtual performance for Feed The Need Durham).Bolu is already a world changer - this hugely impactful young woman continues to use her voice, determination and many talents to make a positive difference in the world.
Other accolades:
- Performing at the Toronto Caribbean Festival, The Network of Nigerians in Canada, OFFA International Women's Day Film Festival.
- Asked to perform for the Canadian online launch party of the release of a new book meant to inspire children to activism written by the cousin of Rosa Parks, Angela Sadler-Williamson.
- Within weeks of writing Make It Right, she was featured in : CityTV, CP24 News, AM960, 680 News, Clarington This Week, Orono Times, Durham.com, The RoundTable Talk show in Long Beach, California, and Ticker TV in Australia
In this episode, we discuss:
- The key values she has learnt from her parents and home environment
- Struggling to relate to people her age, and finding connection with people older who share a a similar vision
- Dealing with overwhelming publicity and how she stays grounded and humble while becoming more well known and receiving more media attention
- Has Justin Bieber really reformed and cleaned up his act, or is it a publicity stunt?
- Meeting her mentor, Roxanne, for the first time.
- How to find the right mentor and understanding the purpose of a mentor in music and life in general.
- The role and significance of meeting Angela Sadler-Williamson - the cousin of Rosa Parks
- Visiting Africa, and appreciating the risks and sacrifices made by our parents' generation that has allowed us the chance to explore our passions and desire to solve world issues
- The importance of no matter how far you go, to always remember where you came from
- The importance of teaching and raising awareness around mental health in school
- Becoming the Opening Act for Canada Day 2021 (taking place on July 1st!)
Connect with Bolu:
on Instagram: www.instagram.com/bolusings1on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCYDvJAeMO_o1Y5kV4PtYq0Q
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Born in France to Algerian parents, Sadi recalls his childhood memory of moving from a neighbourhood filled with immigrant families and children of immigrants, to one where he was part of 'one of the only non-white families around'.
In this episode we discuss:
Growing up in a very ethnically diverse neighbourhood before moving to a middle class 'white-dominated' suburb
- Racial propaganda in France and how it ties with the history of African migrants into France
- Differences between African immigrants vs. Asian immigrants
- Witnessing the more open and divert racism against black Africans in France
- the worrying number of younger generation voting for the outwardly racist national front
- Comparing systemic racism in France compared to the US and UK
- Integrating into Japan and the working culture of Tokyo
- Recalling Fuji Rock festival
To discuss anything from the episode, or to be a guest on the show, you can reach me via the website podcast.thejourneyonwards.com or on Instagram
Shavika shares how it was to be not American enough for the Americans, but not Indian enough for the Indians either. Coming from a family of strong-willed women who went against the 'norms' of expectation of women in their society, Shavika talks about how this helped her towards her own realisations and underlying passion for coaching.
In this episode, we discuss
- The collective Asian Indian culture vs. the individualistic culture of America
- Embracing the open mindedness of American culture
- How do we make the traditional workplace less soul crushing?
- Do we need to be authentic in the work place?
- Is it inauthentic to have different personas for your social, professional and family circles?
- How the story of her grandmother and mother contributed to her own passion for coaching
- What is the Saturn return and how may it have played a role in both our lives
- Why third culture kids don’t get the chance to dream
- What values do you think will be common among the successful enterprises of the future,
Key Quotes
- You don’t really realise you’re different until society tells you you are
- As a child i really struggled with this concept of school, work marriage, all of these things
- Companies traditionally do not want you to be you, they just want you to execute
- In our generation as millennials, we are trying to break that down
- i just found it so exhausting to constantly manage and have a new face for every single person that i talked to
- Introspection is key - and the way we learn about ourselves is through other people
Get in touch with Shavika on Instagram @shavika_rhea
As an UK-born Iranian, Sina speaks about what it was like to grow up as a third culture kid who was influenced both by the British culture around him, and the Iranian culture instilled by his parents. In this episode, Sina speaks very openly about finding it difficult to find where he truly fitted in, and even spent some time schooling in Iran, which was a particular challenge. Since then, Sina made a good life for himself but still very much felt alone and unsure of what his purpose was; until some pivotal moments and key people led him on his transformational journey and towards the goal he has found for himself.
In this episode, we discuss:
- My family journey from Iran to the UK
- Role of the Iranian revolution in the late 70's
- What would have happened if the Persians conquered the Greeks and why Persian history is largely ignored in schools
- Why Sina started selling phones in high school
- Why Sina felt hisparents weren't driven or ambitious & never managed to reach their potential
- Dealing with loneliness when working and living in Norway
- The role of Kirk Miller and Jay Shetty in his transformational journey
- What was the inspiration behind the podcast and the name 'First Serve'
- What is Creator vs. survival mode
About the Guest
Sina Haghighat is a Podcaster, Leader and Coach who empowers Next-Gen Leaders to unlock their full potential through CLARITY and UNITY.
Connect with him at sinahaghighat.com to learn more about his journey, coaching and The First Serve Podcast.
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A WORLD ENVIRONMENT DAY SPECIAL (which takes place Saturday June 5th, 2021)
"I wish to leave a better world for my children and all the innocent little ones on the earth."
Vivina Vincent is a Climate Reality Leader from The Climate Reality Project. She has given talks in schools and libraries on Climate Change for children. She has also given talks to the general public at various events. She has undertaken and participated in community activities in India, Singapore, and London on the environment and climate change. She is also a school speaker for Animal Aid and Water Aid.
In this episode, we discuss:
- How growing up in a city leads to a disconnect with nature;
- How schooling was in India;
- The importance of community in order to bring significant positive change;
- Learning how to build strong relations when living a transient life;
- Undertaking the climate change training project given by Al Gore;
- Setting up ClimateEd to educate school children on climate change and reducing carbon footprint;
- How to live a minimalist life;
- Which country governments can take inspiration from because of what they are doing for sustainability and the environment; and
- Why the current methods of reducing crime are not working, as well as what could be a more effective way of reducing criminal behaviour.
Honourable mentions were made to:
- Centre of Alternative technology: https://cat.org.uk
- Population Matters https://populationmatters.org/
If you resonated with the guest, find out more:
- https://www.ecofully.co.uk/pages/about-us
- https://www.instagram.com/ClimateEdUK/
- Read her blog: https://iseenature.wordpress.com/
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In part 2, we explore:
- How consistency and relatability are just as important (if not more) than talent in having a significant impact
- The importance of having a coach in all aspects of life and levels of expertise
- How important it is to understand the difference between a mentor and a coach
- Two radical and unexpected life events that led to selling a production company that was generating £1mn in annual turnover
- Moving back to Scotland to protect her mother
- How to deal with difficulties and setbacks out of your control
- How to reset your life and come to terms with unexpected and unfavourable events
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Kojo Agyei is a renowned lifestyle and wellbeing coach who has worked with Beyoncé, David Beckham, Jennifer Lopez, Emma Bunton, Tony and Cherie Blair and coached for adidas, Nike and Lululemon, plus Chelsea and Brighton and Hove Albion Football Clubs. In 2004 he was chosen to be the face of the BBC’s ground breaking Athens’ Olympic Legends campaign and they cast Kojo alongside Louie Spence as a celebrity fitness trainer on the hugely successful teen TV show Bump and Grind.
In 2004 Kojo set up his own production company under the Beyond brand which was nominated for ‘Sports Event of the Year’. When he closed the company to move to Scotland in 2011 it was turning over £1 million a year.
But why did it close? Listen to Kojo's fascinating story, where some pivotal moments completely shifted the trajectory of his life, and it wasn't smooth sailing by any means.
Get in touch with Kojo on Instagram @kojoopuniagyei
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Third Culture Talks will spotlights the perspectives of third culture individuals around the world, by providing a platform where they can share these expertise and key opinions to an audience, much like TEDx talks. To find and more and how you can be a part of the growing tribe, check out podcast.thejourneyonwards.com/tribe
"I WASN'T WORRIED ABOUT STANDING OUT...
I KNEW I WASNT THE SAME AS EVERYONE ELSE, AND I KNEW I WASN'T ORDINARY, SO I WAS LIKE 'IM GONNA BE EXTRA-ORDINARY"
In part 1, Kojo speaks of growing up as the only coloured person in a white-dominated area, and tells a great story of how it was to attend his first Ghanaian party with his dad's side of the family.
We also cover:- how being looked at for being different to the other kids acted as a fuel of motivation for him to, as he describes it, give them a real reason to want to stare at him.- the importance of role models in his upbringing- the immense competition in the performance and modelling industry- meeting his idol, Mohammed Ali
... and much much more
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"My mother and my grandma brought me up. My mum was born in Rio de Janeiro, and at the age of 6 my mother moved to the Black Isle in the Highlands with her brother, mother and Father Hector Macdonald, who was a Highlander through and through and won the Military Cross for conspicuous gallantry in the 1st World War."
Kojo Agyei is a renowned lifestyle and wellbeing coach who has worked with Beyoncé, David Beckham, Jennifer Lopez, Emma Bunton, Tony and Cherie Blair and coached for adidas, Nike and Lululemon, plus Chelsea and Brighton and Hove Albion Football Clubs. In 2004 he was chosen to be the face of the BBC’s ground breaking Athens’ Olympic Legends campaign and they cast Kojo alongside Louie Spence as a celebrity fitness trainer on the hugely successful teen TV show Bump and Grind.
In 2004 Kojo set up his own production company under the Beyond brand which was nominated for ‘Sports Event of the Year’. When he closed the company to move to Scotland in 2011 it was turning over £1 million a year.
But why did it close? Listen to Kojo's fascinating story, where some pivotal moments completely shifted the trajectory of his life, and it wasn't smooth sailing by any means.
Get in touch with Kojo on Instagram @kojoopuniagyei
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JOIN THE THIRD CULTURE TRIBE
Third Culture Talks will spotlights the perspectives of third culture individuals around the world, by providing a platform where they can share these expertise and key opinions to an audience, much like TEDx talks. To find and more and how you can be a part of the growing tribe, check out podcast.thejourneyonwards.com/tribe
In this conversation, we discussed:
- Becoming aware of the fortunate family and environment she was brought up in
- Living in a society that are not trained to ask why and think critically
- Challenging the norms of protesting against climate change by actually asking 'what am I doing to make a difference'
- Not being the biggest fan of Greta Thunberg
- Learning about the importance of inclusive design - to allow websites to be more accessible by those with disabilities
- Creating a tool that can help kids understand emotions better
- What do you think of the Nike's new 'Back to the Future' shoe?
- Approaching the Global School for Social Leaders and starting her own podcast
- Do you think the values that makes up a good leader has evolved over time?
Quotes by Alex
"How dare I not use all the privilege that I have to help somebody to make the world a better place for them""How dare I ask my maid, that I know how much money she makes, and supports her kids... how dare I ask her to not feed her family for a week, and to use it to buy a re-usable straw"
"I want to be able to make something that makes somebody else's life better"
"It's not about the role anymore, it's about the goal"
"I think if you're a good leader, you know when to step back and when to follow somebody else"
always be curious about other people's experiences before judging them - because the second that you look at them for their experiences, not just their labels, you can learn so much from them"
"Change doesn't happen to you, it can happen with you - so be a part of the things, and look at opportunities, because life can be more than expected"
Connect with Alex on socials:
Instagram: www.instagram.com/theofficialjune10thWebsite: june10th.site
Get in touch:
Instagram: www.instagram.com/thejourneyonwardspodcastWebsite: thejourneyonwards.com/podcast
Alex gives her fresh perspective and learnings on topics such as:
- How I managed to become grateful for the privileges I had in order to use to serve those less fortunate?
- How I found the place I call home, and coming to terms with my identity.
- How I learnt to become honest with myself about my passions and ambitions, so that I could find my true calling in life.
- How the importance of effective questioning helped me to align my actions with my beliefs.
- How I want to use podcasting as a way to create my personal brand and share my interests to do good things for good people... and much more!
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Connect with Alex:
On Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/theofficialjune10th/Website: http://june10th.site/
Find out more:
Website: thejourneyonwards.com/podcast Instagram: www.instagram.com/thejourneyonwardspodcast Email: tjopodcast@gmail.com
In part 2, we covered:
- Self-reflecting on his brother not liking the person he was becoming
- Noticing cultural differences when traveling around India and Japan, and comparing it to the UK
- Better connecting with people you know, and being humble enough to ask for help
- Appreciating the people in his workplace who would grind for him
- Balancing work vs. life experiences
- Expectations of his family vs. expectations of himself for landing a good job
- Reflecting on the corporate world and the working culture of the United Kingdom
- Being SINGLE AND READY TO MINGLE
Some key quotes
"You need things to humble you, and to give you perspective""You wouldn't realise how interesting the person sitting next to you on the bus is, until you take the time [to]""Sometimes it's more powerful to be shown what you don't have to do, than be shown a million times what you do need to do"
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In this episode, Vik Judge speaks about:
- Appreciating the individual roles and influence of his mother and father.
- Learning the value of hospitality and manners from his parents' culture.
- Finding his place in school and university.
- Did being the child of immigrants mean you had a different upbringing experience?
- Is it necessary to wake up at 5am to be successful and productive?
- Landing his first job by showing integrity and respect.
- Serving Ian Wright and Ronny Corbet in his job.
Quotes by Vik
"Looking back, she did the decision she thought was the best, and I was really lucky as well that she had good emotional intelligence, and intelligence, that she made things work""If you have to get up and feed 3 children and educate them... you just do it"
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Facts about Third Culture Kids (TCKs):
- Average number of cities they've lived in = 4
- Average age they first move = 4.5 yrs old
- 85% are bilingual
- 44% earned a graduate degree by age 22
- They typically work in education, medicine, business, entrepreneurship & highly skilled positions
Source - https://www.thirdculturekidglobal.com/tckfacts
In this season, I get to share the fun, insightful and inspiring experiences of my brilliant guests to find out what you can learn through their passions, expertise and perspectives on popular life topics through the lens of being a third culture individual.
We cover some of life's most common questions:- Is it easier to build relationships with other TCKs or children from immigrant backgrounds?- How do you answer when someone asks 'Where are you from?'- Were we picked last in sports because we weren't from the same background as others?- Would we raise our children in the same we were raised?- Do I still practice the traditions my parents would when I was growing up?
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Francis Ngannou is a gifted athlete. But his path to superstardom is far from ordinary (and I mean FAR), both as a sports-star and as an immigrant.
The UFC champion's story, which took him from a small village in Cameroon to being regarded as the hardest puncher in the history of MMA, is nothing short of a Hollywood movie in the making (and to be honest it probably already IS in the making).
Ngannou's immigration journey is an inspiration not just to fans of UFC, or even to the world of sport, but is truly something that the the entire world should hear, and it also speaks volumes about his character.
Even Joe Rogan describes his episode with Ngannou as 'one of the most moving and impactful conversations' ever.
So as part of the Key Lessons from Famous Immigrant Stories series, I highlight the four (and it could have been many more) key messages I learnt about Ngannou from his incredible and emotional story. It's by far my favourite so far (no offence to the previous ones).
Let me know your views on what was discussed in the episode:via Instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcastvia email tjopodcast@gmail.com
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Honorary mentions and credit to:
JRE MMA Show #99 with Francis Ngannou
Hotboxin' With Mike Tyson
UFC YouTube media
We cover A LOT, so here's what to expect:
RELATIONSHIPS & EXPECTATION
How can you leverage conflict and 'argue better' to help strengthen relationships?> How do people who frequently travel and move countries manage to form deep relationships?
VALIDATION & IDENTITY
How can I move away from the fear of what other people think about me, or living my life in proxy to what I want people to think about me?> Is media incorrectly influencing the decisions and actions of the younger generation, or is it helping them wake up to their true identity?> How can I take action on my ambitions or beliefs without the anxiety of failure and need for approval?> How can I overcome feeling like a misfit when moving to a new country.
IMPACT & (DIVINE) INTERVENTION
Are we all destined for greatness? What does it mean to be great?> Is our fate / destiny already written? And what role does free will play?> What impact are wokeism ideologies having on the younger generation?> How do we identify divine moments in our life and take action on them?
About the Guest
Lucas serves value driven organization develop transformational journeys and communication strategies. He is a public speaker who shares on community transformation, power of story, and understand the world around you In the last 10 years he spoken at conferences across 13 nations and 19 of the 50 States. Lucas hosts The Lucas Skrobot Show, and is based in the GCC with his wife and four boys. Lucas also is the author of “Anchored, the Discipline to Stop Drifting”–a book for 20-25 years olds struggling to gain traction in life.
Reach me on Instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcast or by email tjopodcast@gmail.com
Brazilian native, Michellee Fox is a slow food chef and small minority farmer advocate. And on top of this, she's joined an amazing initiative for a food and lifestyle television network, known as FoodBay TV, as the North South America Business Development Manager.
Through our conversation I've realised that she really is leading the charge for the food revolution that we are seeing - and as she puts it "until all of us, including chefs, farmers, the F&B industry and government decide to take seasonality, regenerative and slow food practices seriously, we are all contributing to the decay of our civilisation".
Oh and did I mention she has also grown cannabis in Humboldt, California, ( which makes up the Emerald Triangle and is known for producing some of the best cannabis in the world) using regenerative practices.
Well I had the immense pleasure of discussing and reliving the journey that took this incredible woman from her humble backgrounds in Brazil, to the US and beyond. This really was an adventure from start to finish.
In this episode, we discuss:
- Rebelling against stereotypes in Brazil
- Learning from her grandmother
- Struggling to integrate in Alabama
- Bringing skateboarding to the favelas
- Coming out of her shell in Hawaii
- Instilling Brazilian values in her children
- Taking BIG risks and flourishing in California
- Leading the food revolution
- 'Food tourism' in Africa through Food Bay TV
... and more!
Get in contact with Michellee through her Instagram @chefmichelleefox to discuss everything from being a Brazilian immigrant to the US, seasonal nutrition, food tourism in Africa, and much much more.
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Roman is a 1st generation immigrant from Ukraine and arrived to the US with 6 family members to a 2 bedroom apartment. He was forced to become a self-taught digital marketer due to the 2008 recession, and realised his strong passion for it. He went on to become the founder of Nova Zora Digital, as well as host of the Digital Savage Experience podcast, which is a Top 100 podcast for 'How To'. After going through numerous miscarriages with his wife (two happening on Christmas Day), they decided to become foster parents on more than one occasion (a lot more!), and have given their selfless love and care to each foster child.
No matter what hardships, Roman has learnt how to develop better coping mechanisms to deal with grief and negative experiences, and harness them for something good.
In this episode, we discuss:
- Ukraine during Soviet ruling
- A school kid with a hustler's mindset: cards, candy and lemonade stalls
- Appreciating his grandfather's work ethic
- How immigrant CEOs and leaders have unbiased respect and awareness to not quit early
- Fostering 25 children and selfless love
- Podcasting: Building self-confidence and dealing with loss... and plenty more
Get in contact with Roman for Digital Marketing support (through Nova Zora Digital) or for Podcasting (through Real Talk Podcasting)
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On Instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcastBy email tjopodcast@gmail.com
Having a father who served in the Air Force, Joydeep spent a large segment of his childhood moving around India while attending the Air Force School. He has since worked his way up from being a software engineer in Bangalore, to a Senior Principal Consultant in London; and now has global responsibility in a senior manager role at HSBC Bank. But what I love about this conversation were the insights and perspectives on how this less-than-common upbringing helped him to adapt so well to new cultures and environments; something that played to his advantage once he moved with his wife to London.
In this episode, we also discuss what the education system was like in India, the importance of society and cultural events, and especially the growing emphasis on sports. Joydeep also talks about stepping into the realm of entrepreneurship and building a community of like-minded people who are there to empower and support each other in their pursuits.
Found out more about this community on the EEL Community Facebook page and on Instagram.
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On Instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcastBy email tjopodcast@gmail.com
Of the well known immigrants who elevated to stardom in the US, very few can boast the accomplishments of Arnold Schwarzenegger. The real life terminator made a name for himself as a bodybuilder, and used this as a launching point to become the lead man in Hollywood and, later, the Governor of California.
In this episode, I take a look at Arnie's journey, to understand just how it has shaped the person he became and how it contributed to a career that saw him become a millionaire by the age of 25, break through the stereotypes to become the highest paid Hollywood actor at the time, and finally, how he paid this all back through his hard work as the Governor for two terms.
Audio clips from The Tim Ferriss Podcast and the ID10T Podcast.Interview 1 with Tim FerrissInterview 2 with Tim FerrissInterview with Chris Hardwick (ID10T Podcast)______________________
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New guest interviews every Tuesday; new famous immigrant story reviews every other Saturday.
Eszter, originally from Australia, solo traveled through India amongst other places since she was a teenager, before moving to New York to pursue a TV career.
With her husband, David, they both traveled all over the world as acclaimed photographers specializing in commercial work. After life-changing moments in her personal and professional life, and help from incredible friends, she finally pursued her true calling.
About the GuestEszter Matheson transforms peoples’ personal stories into luxury, heirloom art-objects so they can be celebrated for generations to come.
Great-granddaughter of Hungary’s first female Film-maker, Eszter is creator of That Book (thatbook.net) where she and her team of award winning photographers, printers and designers use the finest materials and boundless imagination in the crafting the individually tailored books. Having enjoyed success in an array of creative fields, including Exhibition Design, Acting and Commercial Photography, Eszter now applies her creative vision and powerful storytelling skills to immortalizing the real-life stories of her clients.
Her recent book, Spider Lake, won Best Digitally Printed Book and Book of the Year at the British Book Design and Production Awards and THAT BOOK was included in the 2020 edition of Gwyneth Paltrow’s Goop Gift Guide. ___________________________________
Get in Touch whether you have any comments or insights of your own on today's episode. Or whether you'd like to be a guest on the show and allow your story to live on for the generations ahead:On instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcastBy email tjopodcast@gmail.com
In this episode I sit down with Taylor to understand how being on the go almost every few years since the age of 3, until finally settling in his current apartment in London (for now), helped him to break down biases and understand "at the end of the day we are all human" as he states. He speaks on how he uprooted and moved to Tokyo, the perception the local Japanese population held for the American culture, differences in integrating into South of France, and how he began his inner journey of self discovery.
About the GuestTaylor is committed to transformational change by helping individuals and organisations to create meaningful and synergistic end results. He is the Founder of Galliant Trainings, which guides and facilitates the development of creative consciousness and intuition through training workshops and 1-to-1 coaching services.Taylor has worked with intuition for over 10 years training with Maryann Madden, founder and director of The Inner Energy Centre in Brisbane, Australia. He has also been accredited to Level 4 Mastery through Natural Success Academy, founded and run by international best-selling author William Whitecloud.Prior to Galliant Trainings, Taylor worked as a commercial lawyer and consultant for nearly 20 years providing legal, strategic and commercial advice in renewable energy projects and corporate transactions around the world.
Reach out to Taylor:Instagram @thetaylorroarktaylor@galliant.life
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Mila Kunis is well recognised for her successes in TV and film. Not only has she won a number of accolades through her career, but she has always expressed her gratitude to her parents and now passing that on to her own family.
In this episode, I take a look at Mila's journey, to understand just how it has shaped the person she is today and how that has helped in both her career and personal life to become not only a successful Hollywood actress, but a great mother too.
Link to Mila's interview with Glamour: https://www.glamour.com/story/mila-kunis-on-life-with-ashton-and-making-babies.
Audio clips from Howard Stern, The Armchair Expert Podcast and Sunday Sitdown with Willie Geist
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New guest interviews every Tuesday; new famous immigrant story reviews every Saturday.
AmyK is a featured contributor for Entrepreneur magazine, and her latest book, The Secrets Leaders Keep, is an Amazon bestseller. AmyK received her M.S. from Johns Hopkins University, and has been a featured guest on numerous TV and radio networks including Bloomberg, NBC and ABC.
Averaging 75+ speaking events a year over the last 2 decades - for clients such as Starbucks Canada, Expedia, Lockheed Martin, IBM, Wells Fargo and Walmart - AmyK has traveled the world helping senior executives lead, innovate and collaborate more effectively. One. Conversation. At. A. Time.
Her purpose is now to create a place for women leaders where ideas, perspectives, thoughts, stories and experiences are shared, heard, witnessed and welcomed. You can find more information at www.shegetsit.com
About the Show
New guest episode every Tuesday! And every Friday, I review the life of a famous personality (who you may or may not know are migrants or their direct descendants) to see what key lessons and values we can take away from their personal journey.
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With your support we’re helping open up more of the world to what it really means to have an immigrant mindset.
The eagerly anticipated launch of Season 2 is finally here. Where I'll be sharing with you the personal conversations I have with esteemed guests, as we dive into their migrant story and how it brought them to where they are today. New episode every Tuesday!
Plus, every other Friday I'll be reviewing a well-known personality or celebrity and the key lessons I learnt from their immigrant story, as well as how that may have contributed to their successes.
Follow The Journey Onwards podcast on Instagram and Facebook. @thejourneyonwardspodcast
If you would like to share your own story or insights, or have any suggestions or questions, you can reach me at tjopodcast@gmail.com.
Season 1 - From Uganda to the UK
The story of the Dattani siblings, who grew up in Kakamega, Kenya, before moving to Jinja, Uganda in December 1950.
"It was a paradise living there", as one of the siblings described. Until the rise of Idi Amin's political power led to the forced exile of all 'foreigners' from East Africa. Season 1 follows the journey of how this close-knit family individually found their way to London (with some stops along the way).
Listen now on all major platforms.
Don't forget to subscribe and share on instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcast
Feel free to get in touch at tjopodcast@gmail.com
Season 1 - From Uganda to the UK
The story of the Dattani siblings, who grew up in Kakamega, Kenya, before moving to Jinja, Uganda in December 1950.
"It was a paradise living there", as one of the siblings described. Until the rise of Idi Amin's political power led to the forced exile of all 'foreigners' from East Africa. Season 1 follows the journey of how this close-knit family individually found their way to London (with some stops along the way).
Listen now on all major platforms.
Don't forget to subscribe and share on instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcast
Feel free to get in touch at tjopodcast@gmail.com
Season 1 - From Uganda to the UK
The story of the Dattani siblings, who grew up in Kakamega, Kenya, before moving to Jinja, Uganda in December 1950.
"It was a paradise living there", as one of the siblings described. Until the rise of Idi Amin's political power led to the forced exile of all 'foreigners' from East Africa. Season 1 follows the journey of how this close-knit family individually found their way to London (with some stops along the way).
Listen now on all major platforms.
Don't forget to subscribe and share on instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcast
Feel free to get in touch at tjopodcast@gmail.com
Season 1 - From Uganda to the UK
The story of the Dattani siblings, who grew up in Kakamega, Kenya, before moving to Jinja, Uganda in December 1950.
"It was a paradise living there", as one of the siblings described. Until the rise of Idi Amin's political power led to the forced exile of all 'foreigners' from East Africa. Season 1 follows the journey of how this close-knit family individually found their way to London (with some stops along the way).
Listen now on all major platforms.
Don't forget to subscribe and share on instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcast
Feel free to get in touch at tjopodcast@gmail.com
Season 1 - From Uganda to the UK
The story of the Dattani siblings, who grew up in Kakamega, Kenya, before moving to Jinja, Uganda in December 1950.
"It was a paradise living there", as one of the siblings described. Until the rise of Idi Amin's political power led to the forced exile of all 'foreigners' from East Africa. Season 1 follows the journey of how this close-knit family individually found their way to London (with some stops along the way).
Listen now on all major platforms.
Don't forget to subscribe and share on instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcast
Feel free to get in touch at tjopodcast@gmail.com
Season 1 - From Uganda to the UK
The story of the Dattani siblings, who grew up in Kakamega, Kenya, before moving to Jinja, Uganda in December 1950.
"It was a paradise living there", as one of the siblings described. Until the rise of Idi Amin's political power led to the forced exile of all 'foreigners' from East Africa. Season 1 follows the journey of how this close-knit family individually found their way to London (with some stops along the way).
Listen now on all major platforms.
Don't forget to subscribe and share on instagram @thejourneyonwardspodcast
Feel free to get in touch at tjopodcast@gmail.com
In this first episode - I speak with Upin Dattani, who gives a very sincere and heartfelt insight into his years spent as a child in Jinja, through to moving to London as just a young teenager. Hear all about what life was like for a child growing up and schooling in Jinja, and the need to adapt to a completely new society and culture in London.
Being the oldest cousin of my generation, he also has some fascinating stories to share of the Dattani siblings, their ba (mum) and bapuji (dad), and even some entertaining insights into the cousins of our generation.
Welcome to the Journey Onwards (or TJO for short).But what is it, and why did I create it?In the 1970s, the seizure of power in Uganda by Idi Amin, and subsequent forced mass exile of foreigners, resulted in some fascinating tales for many members of my family. This series is a chance for me to find out more about the trials and tribulations of each of them, from childhood memories to the current day, and share these with the world, so that these stories and the lessons learnt have their own journey onwards through all its listeners.In honour of the family members that are no longer with us today, here is my gift to you - a way for the family legacy to live on for the generations to come