The Christian and the Atheist Podcast: Recent Episodes
Aubrie Howell and Kathleen Rawlinson
What do you get when you mix a Christian and an Atheist? True friendship. Join Aubrie and Kathleen, two real life friends, who happen to have two very different belief systems as they discuss life, love, the crazy world around them. Using humor, vulnerability, and a large dose of non judgement they find common ground on every topic. The Christian and the Atheist drops podcasts every Monday. Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support
This episode contains a Trigger Warning* Miscarriages are mentioned.Amanda Gleason, a childhood friend of Aubrie's, shares her journey of faith in the face of tragedy. After experiencing multiple miscarriages, Amanda found herself angry with God and questioning His goodness. However, through her struggles, she was able to overcome her loss and regain her faith. Press play to listen to Amanda's story of how she found peace and restoration in her faith.
Aubrie starts feeling major cold feet about moving to Illinois so her and her husband decided tequila shots at the Trump Hotel was a good idea. You also hear about the update on how the move is going and we finish up with advocating for our fellow ADHD gang.
Ah, a fresh new Morning Show. This episode was recorded 2-3 weeks from the posting date. Kathleen, her husband, and her close friends went to a Chicago rave, we talk about Reesa Teesa and gossiping, what it means to be "born in the covenant" as a Mormon, and a little update on Aubrie's move.
We know tragedy can be triggering, if you need support don't hesitate to reach out to the following: Rainbow Youth Project: 988 or call (317) 643-4888 (crisis line)Trans Lifeline: 877-5658860 (Staffed by transgender folks, for transgender folks; toll-free)The Trevor Project Hotline: 866-488-7386 (Available 24/7, with councilors trained in supporting LGBTQ youth)Many of you have heard about the tragic loss of Nex Benedict. Our hearts go out to Nex's parents and all those who were close to them. We stand in solidarity with our LGBTQIA+ friends and family. If you or anyone you know is struggling, please don't hesitate to reach out or utilize the resources provided above. Your well-being matters, and we are here to support you.In today's episode, Aubrie poses a question to Kathleen about her decision not to attend church. We delve into Kathleen's perspective on what church means to her, explore recent events, and emphasize the importance of choosing love over hate regardless of one's religious beliefs.
You ever find out one of your so called friends did something that caused a domino effect of really crappy things?
Welcome to the c&A Podcast Tea Party where Aubrie spills tea about this exact thing happening.
It's the first time we were able to get together this year to record. We catch y'all up on our lives, the short version and we talk about the new Barbie nomination's and lack thereof. We also bring up what it was like for Aubrie to run into church peeps, they are everywhere, and it makes for a good story.
Have you ever wanted to know more about the Jewish culture and what is Judaism? Aubrie and Kathleen sit down with Rabbi Jasper and have a very relaxed conversation about the similarities and differences of Christianity and Judaism. We get to touch on what Judaism says about LGBTQ+ and how they combat antisemitism.
This is a great episode that we enjoyed getting to create for our listeners. We can't thank Rabbi Jasper and Temple Israel in Tulsa, Oklahoma enough for allowing us to record this episode and opening their doors for us to experience Sabath with them.
This recording was recorded before the bombings of Israel that happened in late 2023.
We did just change our name and the hype was big but so is this! Lot's of changes coming
We missed you guys!!! Welcome to 2024's first episode where we reflect a little bit on 2023, throw out a teaser of things to come, and we talk about our word for the year for the podcast and for ourselves.
Enjoy!
Is this the finale of the No Longer Fit to Serve series? That's what we are thinking at the moment. This episode explains the name change. c & A Podcast will always be The Christian and the Atheist Podcast but less capital C Christian and more little c Christian.
If you've never heard of Kevin Garcia, do you live under a rock? For those who don't know, allow us to introduce you to this amazing individual. Kevin Garcia, the author of 'Bad Theology Kills,' is set to release their second book, 'What Makes You Bloom,' on January 9th. We had the chance to sit down with Kevin and explore why they felt compelled to share this book with the world and what we, as their audience, can gain from it. This engaging conversation delves into their journey from evangelical pastor to mystic, revealing their spiritual practices and some fun life experiences. Get comfy and listen in! Also, visit Thekevingarcia.com to pre-order their upcoming book and schedule a coaching session with them soon!
This episode is jam packed with so many things we couldn't put it all in the title. Kathleen's wild experience at a pizza place where everyone was high as a kite is one we laughed way too hard at. Aubrie has an interesting interaction at a Jehovah Witness funeral with some of the church goers as well as having a run in with some past church friends at a kid's birthday party. She also took her first non-evangelical communion. We also talk about the tough decision Aubrie and her husband had to make when they walked away from sponsoring kids in a Christian mission project. We end the episode with a blooper of Kathleen's rant on Tom Cruise. Never ever mention his name around her.
Our guest, Professor Kristina Lee, leads an open dialog on the marginalization of atheists in the US, along with discussing the term "theistnormativity" that she coined, and its significance. Aubrie, who leans more spiritually/Christian found the conversation intriguing and Kathleen, as the atheist, had amazing questions.Please note, Dr. Lee is expressing her own professional opinion, not those of USD or the South Dakota Board of RegentsWant some awesome TC&TA merch? Click here and check out what we've got: emeraldexpressions.bigcartel.comHere are some of the links that Kristina wrote and sent us that caught our attention:https://mail.google.com/mail/u/0/?tab=rm&ogbl#search/Kristina.Lee%40usd.edu/FMfcgzGsltTqksfGgPnMNhHcFbKxCSWL?projector=1&messagePartId=0.2https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_k3iX1q4WvQhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MTjXZZ1MnRQhttps://mail-attachment.googleusercontent.com/attachment/u/0/?ui=2&ik=4bad723f92&attid=0.1&permmsgid=msg-f:1762975865894611740&th=187759359a3c2b1c&view=att&disp=inline&saddbat=ANGjdJ89rjmG8R0hDz--sG1MV84TwBQ1Hcf5yYJHID7cECm1N2ByMgxCQkBnI2ltYQnmndmpQbXM3YpgCnrkvr464TrYMfc2OwYnTF_R8UVkVHDDRiaMM-riprwZjUlIeVH9JkKbDXabqJV4BZsvNX_g9IcyNxw1bzpgNWeYiPQsn-rOtQUNgjZ38bWu1-L3LmsC6M0QF6Jn3bn-mJIaW71RuzrZRk7FMQLvq3X0bw2UpU_aU1sb5xNKhd96jGmifIcHePFW42RBOQIOGcCyKLpZMydRU1P02ySz-yOPaOOf9d8QjRGW-q-i_VW_PvdMVxBWJJE5NUqOTvP8bYCOINb26WA2wskvIcdMkysLLHIM_XvD4cN5AwYVFf2NsgT05Oc7dJYgdHQtVD_OPxqisWys-eWNZnzE_K1yrIIn9h4eujIA-Ebw7V_y30ydYSvI9KvrnkVwcMk6Yh-ZmMInaiEP8IggIt1Rs8CWaB_jOxYTb4gsCobOwqzglXPkeUqjwp0g1wLXbl4dc-2kVYm4iqrydjUVG4o1wE0_Q4pBFdA_RXOW7GtPTiWcYs2xoYGexU_xfohwpjb0uKPZJsL7zLCclht9BsT9Lk47PzpUgLIvcqEhpntcdZvVwkLJqtse4YD19-8fVYjVpgXLBHxFX_WaXkVhUea0-r10z_Xr09HK10kCct1_N4t1UwMZErnTRqWT-6zMOrdwuTn4t3bnngkJdIW9Wko62eqPfhaibSg9qkGZCIYRMJyJ__Z0YlqjMKCqTWOyHkH685tuzXE9olz5lYl_g3xDcijb7zvq5JjG-OH9iBZyILkTEPVsSgj7yMj-AXj6J7aYoRUA1mNFpOf0rmrhFIIaJule98WnqBaf-LfcL2xdiCVzJxjQc5CAw207mqadNrFIziawIxjRZi1R9JCgiEot5L_C1PgEUd7IldlD_FxNYBNlcu5vXZWhEl5St4ItNOo7QRxvCeWGLVwtXG4dp-nAL-8mSnzukQhttps://theconversation.com/why-it-matters-that-7-states-still-have-bans-on-atheists-holding-office-161069https://theconversation.com/70-years-ago-walter-plywaski-fought-for-atheists-right-to-become-citizens-heres-why-his-story-is-worth-remembering-164758
This is more chatter with Kathleen and Aubrie. Kathleen is going on a trip to Arizona soon which is where she was when she and her husband decided to stop going to church. She talks about the significance of that place and the excitement of going back for a visit. Aubrie recently traveled via the airport and found herself in a pickle after missing her flight. There was public crying and second guessing her outfit.
We also brought up now that we are no longer in our 20's and broke we are finally at a place where financially things aren't freaking rough. We laugh at the things we bought that made us feel like we had officially become adults.
We look forward to hearing your thoughts on this weeks episode. We hope everyone had an awesome turkey day.
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Another great episode from the Exploring God series covering Buddhism. We get the opportunity to sit down with Buddhist Priest, Tom, who breaks down Buddhism for us and we learned so much. We got to do this with video inside the temple, so we hope you enjoy watching and listening to this new episode.
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If that title didn't have you running to the play button, are you even human?
We kick off with Kathleen's unexpected run-in with a certain someone from the bar, the same person who once assaulted her. If you haven't heard the full story, it's in our previous episode, "I got in a bar fight for being an Atheist."
We also delve into the surprising turn of events in Kat Von D's life, as she embraces being a born-again Christian, we didn't see that coming. And don't miss out on the hilarious tale of Aubrie's almost-crotch tattoo—it's a story you won't forget. Plus a few other things.
Thank you for listening, love yall!
Get ready for a pulse-pounding podcast adventure as we explore the mysteries of All Souls church, accompanied by our very own skeptic, Kathleen. With our guest Shannon Boston at our side, we dive deep into the haunting history of the indigenous land guarded by Chief Tuckabache, who passed away in the 1910s. Kathleen's skepticism provides a counterpoint to the spine-tingling narrative as we venture into the unknown. Armed with an ouija board and dowsing rods, we attempt to summon the spirit of Chief Tuckabache or any other spectral presence willing to communicate. Tune in to witness the supernatural unfold and see if Kathleen's skepticism will survive this eerie encounter.
An update on the latest since Aubrie left Life.Church. Looks like things are going good. We hope you enjoy
Welcome to the Season 3 premiere of our Morning Show! In this episode, we delve into a range of intriguing topics. We'll explore a new fear that's been unlocked, discuss a new finding about science whiz Mark Rober, and even touch on the complexities of human thought, including those of the lesbian variety...kinda. But the laughs don't stop there - find out how meditation gets a twist when Kathleen's humor takes center stage of Aubrie's brain (bad timing), and discover which one of us might be experiencing Ouija Board cold feet. Tune in for an episode filled with humor, curiosity, and lively conversation!
Take a walk down memory lane with us as we talk about our top 5 favorite episodes and some not so favorite and possibly unhinged episodes.
Here is a link to the ones we mentioned:
Rebel Mormon with Alyssa Hulme: https://open.spotify.com/episode/7gk2Uo67nlw2OWwMETkZfe?si=ixwOsYsFRGazSwS1YnQGDg
Staying Mormon with Daisy: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4lYswMv9nz09aYTuDXlW8g?si=lrpX58FWStat-Vn07UOy-g
Book Club: Permission Granted with Dr Jennifer Bird: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1kQmHOEZKthuUkIaekf9nL?si=X9ZWyV4kQrKtgbN0WhKc4w
Book Club: Unbelieve with Marla Taviono: https://open.spotify.com/episode/6mt9jvZGlSFSe0243Ddvsg?si=5aWNj_-jRBqdJurAnej4wQ
Britney's episode talking about going on a Mormon Mission: https://open.spotify.com/episode/5WGD9FxAMsofIPanklPKKE?si=gUWw_zKwSCqGNYsRDhekPA
Dating Nightmares: https://open.spotify.com/episode/32oLmweU13Zyevg5gzsclK?si=RLbRmMvRTDi7L1m-qZ-w9g
Halloween episode 2021 Is There Anyone Out There: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4Cs3MHbdruqVrlPCCVk8xI?si=8Iew4Z82T72iMe9ZwAefAw
Halloween episode 2022 Give Us a Sign: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3jmz2d5W9TDZzTKkdsMlAc?si=0S_fBp5lQEuApLsz4Q1Qgw
Is This Guy For Real: https://open.spotify.com/episode/1Xg2mtSiMsgpcit0g05Omn?si=ZI_N24j6RnOr95LGQ2lz5A
Aubrie's Journey with the Church: https://open.spotify.com/episode/4wvGdbRT7mU4CsMhzaAIJr?si=6YyMmzAvT6i_X5UItp3G3w
Happy 2 years to us! We get to celebrate by doing a give away! Go to the comments on Facebook or Instagram and let us know you want "Christianity Made Me Talk Like An Idiot" by Seth Andrews and we will pick a winner next Wednesday.
This episode serves best if you are watching.
If you are anything like Aubrie, she likes to know what she's getting herself into when walking into a new place. We had the idea to show you, our audience, what it looks like when you walk into All Souls Church. This is the main part of the church that you would see and experience if/when you attend on a Sunday. The church as a whole is WAY bigger. Thanks again to All Souls for allowing us to learn more about Unitarian Universalism and showing us their church.
We get the great honor to sit with Reverend Marlin Lavanhar of All Souls Unitarian Universalist (UU) Church in Tulsa, Oklahoma. This was a real treat because Aubrie and her family just became members this summer shortly after we recorded this episode. We can't wait for you to hear about what a UU is and find a new perspective on how to explore God the UU way.
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You heard us talk about these guys standing outside the Mormon temple with signs saying "sacredorsecret.com" when we visited the Mormon temple last episode. We got to interview one of the men named Eric Johnson. He is part of the Mormonism Research Ministry for over 30 years. They visit Mormon temples and pass out a new letter they publish stating why Mormonism and Christianity are different.
You know the drill, here is an update on the happenings of Aubrie after leaving Life.Church after being asked to step down from leadership. She talks about what her new church is like and the exciting new steps she's taken in being part of All Souls.
It's been almost a decade since Kathleen had been at the Mormon Temple. Get our hot take on what we thought about the new temple in Bentonville, Arkansas.
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Y'all remember that crazy documentary on Netflix "Tiger King" with Joe Exotic? Yeah, talk about a wild addition to the year 2020 and then they came out with a freaking sequel a few years later. Well Kathleen tells us an intriguing story about the time she got to meet Joe Exotic and toured the zoo.
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Kathleen and her husband went to the local watering hole in town and found themselves in company with someone who turned out to be a problematic human being. Listen to the craziest story about what happened and what they did about it.
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Aubrie entertains new prospects in if continuing to be Christian is the way she wants to go.
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By now you've heard what happened. This episode covers Aubrie's journal entries from 2 weeks after the situation to July 29th. You get to hear intimate details of how she is coping and what other big ties she had to cut to continue to move forward.
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What is Aubrie looking for in a church? Does she even plan on being a part of a church? She tried out a new style of "church" that is Unitarian Universalist and here is her take on it.
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You heard part one (if you haven’t go listen to that one first) and now we have part two. This is the more detailed and more involved episode of what happened the day of the “dethroning” and the days following.
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This is the softer version of the story. Aubrie was recently asked to step down from Life.Church leadership. Here is a reading of the post and what happened after the post dropped. The next episode will be part 2 which will be a lot more details of the situation. Do you think the pastor's were right in taking her off leadership?
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In this intimate podcast episode, join us for a heartfelt sit-down interview with Kathleen’s 14-year-old daughter, Portia. As she shares her perspective, we explore her memories of growing up in the Mormon church and the impact of her parents' departure from the faith. Join us as we navigate the ups and downs of her journey as an atheist, shedding light on a unique perspective within a deeply religious community.
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We can't even believe that this will be our final Morning Show recorded for season 2! In this episode we talk about the docu-series Shiny Happy People, our finale episode coming out next week, and what we have in store for next season. There is adult content in this episode...you're welcome.
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Thank you for being the best audience and enjoying the content we've been able to bring you.
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Happy Pride ya'll! To kick off Pride month, we sat down with some very special guests, John and Janelle Wyatt, of Tiktok fame! We discuss John's exit from Mormonism, how they handled their son's coming out and their road to becoming allies, and the viral Tiktok video that took the world by storm!
To check out John's Tiktok, visit https://www.tiktok.com/@wyattearptulsa2
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Join us in this corky episode as we dive into the latest hit from Post Malone, "Chemical," and wonder if he smells bad or smells good. We also bring up the gripping narrative of the Netflix show "Sins of the Mother" that is based on a Mormon woman who does some sketchy sh*t in the name of Jesus. Brace yourself for a wild ride as we share jaw-dropping texts about Kathleen and finally we and delve into the captivating story behind the first Mormon temple. Get ready to be entertained, informed, and inspired in this episode that covers music, television, personal stories, and historical intrigue.--- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support
Welcome to another amazing episode! We sat down with the wonderful Hillary, who is not only a fan of the show, but also has an amazing story! We talked about her Southern Baptist upbringing, her deconstruction journey, and her views on life and spirituality now. Thanks so much Hillary for taking the time to share her story with us, and thanks to you all for listing!
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Who doesn't love the idea of taking over the world if it wasn't frowned upon? We have a fun episode of discussion about how being tested by God and being tempted by Satan are two different things...or are they? Kathleen used to suffer from vivid nightmares and we talk about if we think it's from the fear organized religion brought on or something else. We conclude with the Mormon topic of receiving a new name during the endowment ceremony and what that means.
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Today's guest, Ms. Heauxly (pronounced holy), from the Heauxly Coitus Podcast does not hold back on what it is to be living out her "hoe" phase and we aren't mad. We get the honor of hearing her story of growing up evangelical, staying a virgin until 32, leaving religion, and living out her "hoe" phase. She talks about negative impacts of purity culture, navigating a multi-partner sex life, creating boundaries with partners, talking in tongues while doing the deed, and micro egg plants. That's just a portion of what this episode encompasses. We are pretty confident that even if you don't choose the lifestyle for yourself that you will enjoy this all-in girl talk. --- Support this podcast: https://podcasters.spotify.com/pod/show/thechristianandathiest/support
Another hot Mormon topic we didn't know we needed to know. Kathleen gives us a great explanation of why it is important to Mormons to baptize their ancestors and loved ones who have died. We go into detail of who does the baptisms, where it's done, and how it is done. This is a short and sweet episode so sit back and enjoy.
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Who likes a fun time talking about sex with the girls? This is just that with sex coach, Lauren Samantha, of OhYeahCoaching. We cover topics like teaching our kids about their bodies and age appropriate education on sex and bodies, what sex coaching is, why it's important, who it benefits, and what to expect during a coaching session. This episode is not intended for children.
Resources from Lauren:Laurens instagram:Lauren | Sexual Emperment Coach | (@ohyeahcoaching) | Instagram
Lauren's website: Oh Yeah Coaching
links to parental resources on age appropriate information: Sex Education Resources For Parents & Kids - Birds & Bees & Kids (birdsandbeesandkids.com)Sexuality: What children should learn and when (aboutkidshealth.ca)
Book: Come As You Are: Revised and Updated: The Surprising New Science That Will Transform Your Sex Life: Nagoski, Emily: 9781982165314: Amazon.com: Books
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This is a fun one, everyone! We sat down with Reverand Sarah Thornhill, a United Methodist pastor, and it was a blast! Fun fact: we actually first met Sarah at a Pride festival, so that gives you an idea of the kind of pastor she is! We discuss her religious journey, her affirming attitude, and some of the reactions she's received as a progressive female pastor in the Bible belt. You don't want to miss it!
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Bless it, we have yet another interesting Mormon topic. IDK if all our listeners are like Aubrie where every time we come together to learn something new we have a moment of "wtf" or what but this one is less intense but for sure a "wtf" moment. Temple Marriages and Sealing Ceremonies are described by Kathleen as the desert course: sweet, in theory. We do talk for 17 minutes about current events in our lives so if you are sensitive to our Mormon topics section of our show do know that we have some good stuff before and if you don't feel comfortable listening to the rest you can turn it off. We mean no disrespect to those who practice Mormonism unless, you're a jerkface.
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Welcome back to Book Club! This week, we sat down with Marla Taviano again, to talk about her newest book, Jaded! If you liked Unbelieve, then you'll love Jaded, the second book in Marla's series of poems about her life, faith, and deconstruction process. She delves deeper into her feelings about Christianity, racism, ableism, and even abortion! You don't want to miss it!
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Ever wonder what goes on at the temple? There is a thing called an Endowment Ceremony that Kathleen walks us through the different concepts of what that means. Before we dive into that fun we hear from Aubrie about the women's conference she attended and how that went. Kathleen had some feelings about how that works and we ended up putting a whole 10 minutes of that at the end of the episode for those of you that want to hear it. It's a literal riot, we talk about Stacy Eldridge's Captivating Core retreat, being romanced by God, and going on a date with God. The whole time Kathleen is expressing her feelings about it, and we found ourselves laughing way too hard. Enjoy
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Seth freaking Andrews! We get the honor talk with Seth about the title of his latest book, Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot, as well as how hesitant Aubrie was to have him on the show. There was a rough first impression/conflict between Aubrie and Seth. Hear how it went down and how Seth reacts. We want to thank Seth Andrews for taking time to come to our studio and spend time with us to create this really wonderful episode. Seth Andrews is a former evangelical and Christian broadcaster who now hosts The Thinking Atheist…one of the most popular podcasts and online atheist communities in the world. The Thinking Atheist is not a person. It is an icon encouraging all to reject faith and pursue reason and evidence. Seth has authored five books, including his latest offering, “Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot.” He also hosts a second podcast, "True Stories with Seth Andrews."With a mix of humor and heart, Seth Andrews has spoken for audiences large and small in the U.S, Canada, Europe, and Australia about his former faith, the promotion of science and skepticism, the importance of Humanism in this often crazy world, and why we should all pursue a personal relationship with reality.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support
Ok, you know when you hear about something and the person who is telling it is trustworthy and wouldn't lie about what they are talking about but the thing they are talking about is so wacky you have to pull in another source who knows just as much about it to confirm the insanity you just heard? That is what this episode is!
Kathleen's husband sits in the room with us to help give insight to the topic of Mormon tithing and the breaking headline. You don't get to hear his voice but he's like an advisor throughout the episode. It's super interesting for those of us that don't know much about Mormonism to hear how the LDS do tithing and how they have handled the tithing.
We hope you find today's episode informative. If you are part of the LDS and find yourself defensive when people talk against the Mormon Church then we encourage you to listen but if that's too much for you feel free to check out our other episodes. We mean well and don't want to cause harsh feelings to be stirred up.
Next week we will be posting another Book Club with the words largest Atheist Podcast host, Seth Andrews. He was an absolute joy to have on the show and we are so excited to finally drop the episode.
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Welcome to the second episode in our Book Club series! A few months ago, we sat down with Marla Taviano, the author of a wonderful book of poetry called Unbelieve. We learn about her upbringing as an evangelical Christian, her deconversion process, and what she believes now, all through the lense of a series of incredibly touching and sometimes hilarious poems. Marla Taviano is into books, love, justice, globes, anti-racism, blue, gray, rainbows, and poems. She reads and writes for a living, wears her heart on her t-shirts, and is on a mission/quest/journey to live wholefarted (not a typo). She's the author of unbelieve: poems on the journey to becoming a heretic and jaded: a poetic reckoning with white evangelical christian indoctrination, and lives in South Carolina with her four freaking awesome kids. Find out more at marlataviano.com. To purchase Unbelieve, along with the next book in Marla's series, visit her on Amazon at https://www.amazon.com/stores/Marla-Taviano/author/B001IQX7OG?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support
This episode, as Kathleen points out, is a little unhinged. We start with how fun it was to find out Rihanna is pregnant via the halftime show. Then, Aubrie brings up a topic that is giving her anxiety and she wonders if Kathleen ever finds herself feeling similar or if she deals with things differently. Finally, we go into the rabbit hole of how Mormons view afterlife. It's full of information and opinions from an ex-Mormon so if you find yourself particularly sensitive to hearing potentially negative things pointed towards the Mormon belief system then we advise you to skip the topic. We will be going into Book Club: Unbelieve by Marla Taviono so if you want to read the book of poems in preparation of next week's episode you can find it on Amazon or you can get a signed copy from Marla herself, just look her up on Facebook and shoot her a message.
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Welcome to Book Club! Our first guest is Dr. Jennifer Bird, biblical scholar and author of Permission Granted. We sat down with Dr. Bird to discuss her views on the Bible, her career, and her beautifully written book! It’s definitely worth reading, but don’t take our word for it! About the Author:Jennifer Bird grew up in the United Methodist Church and was doing full time ministry after college, when people around her started showing her that sometimes the Bible doesn’t say what she had always thought that it did. So, she went to seminary in order to learn biblical languages for herself. This led to other unexpected discoveries along the way, all of which fueled her desire to share with others the things she was learning. She completed doctoral studies in New Testament and Early Christianity from Vanderbilt University in 2007, and has been teaching in classrooms in Tennessee, North Carolina, Oregon, and most recently Virginia ever since. Her scholarship focuses on inviting people to read the Bible seriously, and for themselves, especially in relation to topics such as gender, marriage, sexuality, and what it is saying to women. In her free time, you can find Jennifer outdoors, working out, or cuddling with her feline companion, Minerva.jennifergracebird.comGo check out her website to see the new book she's about to drop, and her YouTube channel, with weekly short videos of “food for thought” content related to the Bible.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support
Today's Morning Show is a little bit different than what we've been posting lately. We have Rody and Vendy joining us with The Stupidest Podcast
They are two comedians who break down their spiritual/religious beliefs/whatever it is that Rody tries to tell us about :)
It has lots of laughs, lots of stories, and great respect for each other...it's kind of nice considering we had quite the wild guest in our last episode, if you know you know.
Go check out the guys and let them know we sent you. And if you want the full unedited version of this episode head over to their podcast and take a listen where you can hear all of Rody's joke that I couldn't leave in bc..well just go and take a listen to find out why.
Justin Rademacher A young comedian on the verge of greatness. He is known as the king of dad jokes, loves standup comedy, a decent bowler, AND A NOVICE DISC GOLFER ON THE RISE. He is a comedian that will keep you on your feet and your mind running. You can’t go wrong with sitting down and giving this young comedian a listen, even though he is a Rams fan…… but in all honesty he is a guy that will help you through thick and thin. He will quite literally give you the shirt of his back. He is a good friend, a great partner, and just an all around great guy to be around. Enjoy the entertainment he will give you.
Justin Van De Venter Inspiring comedian and podcast extraordinaire. He is known for his story telling abilities, athleticism, and singing abilities. Some of his talents include; Bowling, Golf, Darts, and Karaoke. Justin was born in Parker, Colorado, but was raised in Indiana and Minnesota. He is a Minnesota boy at heart as he loves the Vikings, Twins, and Wild with all his heart (poor guy). This guy has some stories that will have you rolling on the floor laughing. Not only does he have good stories but he knows how to tell them! He brings you into the story and allows you to relive them each and every time he’s telling them. Enjoy the entertainment he will give you.
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We saw a "psychic" and this man was WILD!!!! This is a must watch to see how crazy the idea's he had. Enjoy the madness.--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support
Before we dive into our Mormon topic of the day we dive into the craziness of Britany Spears and Madonna. Is there talk of aliens being involved? Yes, because what other reason would there be??? We get to a topic we are sure you as our listeners can agree on and that's how annoying impostor syndrome is and how we think we can help prevent it with our own kids.
The Mormon topic is about the "day in the life" of a Mormon on Sunday and what they would encounter. Kathleen tells us about Primary, the Relief Society, the Priesthood, and how the classes work. Oh, and we can't forget about sacrament.
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We are doing a little throw back with this episode to give our listeners a taste of what could have been. When we first started, we were thinking of doing a segment called "Rapid Fire Friday" where we just throw out questions and answer them. This had to be May 2021 and we were working on getting comfortable behind the mic. We hope you enjoy this never before heard segment of R.F.F. where we discuss hall passes, strippers, and bucket list topics. We will see you next we with a new Morning Show.
February starts off book club for us. We read the 2 books and interviewed 3 authors that we know you will all enjoy. Go read Permission Granted by Dr. Jennifer Bird, Unbelieve by Marla Taviano, and Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot by Seth Andrews to get a taste of what we will be bringing.
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Twenty-nine is a special one, we tease upcoming episode ideas that might make you blush or make you lean in to hear more. Kathleen has a question for Aubrie and then Aubrie has a question for Kathleen. It's a fun take on how each person see's things. Kathleen then gets into what a Patriarchal Blessing is and reads from hers. It's super interesting how the process of getting one happens and then what impact it has on those who receive it. Happy listening!
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Funny title because we are who we are. But in all fairness, it's a fun and slightly serious episode as we look back on what 2022 looked like for us as a podcast and as individuals. Sometimes it felt like we were reading old posts from Facebook and cringing and other times we felt a sense of pride for accomplishing hard things. Sit back and enjoy the ride. As always thank you so much to all our listeners, supporters, and whoever else is out there listening. Love ya!
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It's short and sweet but we packed in some really funny sh*t on this one. Is Aubrie trying to seduce the president or is she just losing her mind? What's in Kathleen's “just in case” envelope? All this and more. Y'all stay safe out there, the holidays are here and it's crazy! Happy Holiday's!!!xoxo--- Support this podcast: https://anchor.fm/thechristianandathiest/support
Insert heathen emoji here Well we gone and done it. We found us a Satanist straight out of the fires of the underworld. Ok it's not really like that. What we did do is find out that Satanists don't really worship Satan. There is so much to unpack here, and we hope that you give it a listen and learn something new. This isn't a conversion episode but one that makes space for learning and growth.
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This episode starts with a pep talk turned vent session via Kathleen, anyone else dislike Christmas? We also get into an issue Aubrie has been struggling with as far as if she's Christian and why she's asking this. We get to grace you with a great story about Thanksgiving dinner with Grandma Elaine who is rather spicey this year and we finish it off with what the actual heck is Mormon food storage.
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Welcome to another episode of the show! We are so excited to introduce you to Pamela Topjian, a certified Hypnotherapist! Tune in to learn what hypnotherapy is, how it works, and who might benefit from this type of mental health work.
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Get ready for a fun one, everyone! We sit down with Brittany and Justin Blackmore, Kathleen's bro and sis-in-law, to talk Mormonism! Justin and Brittany share their family histories, Mormon childhoods, missions, and deconstruction process. Hear how leaving the church changed their lives and impacted their families, and learn a little bit about the Mormon Temple!
Warning for all our Mormon listeners: in this episode we discuss the initiatory and endowment services. We understand that this discussion may be difficult to stomach coming from non-believers, but it is important to the faith process and personal history of not only Mormons, but Exmormons as well. We strive to tell our personal truths while still being respectful to our active Mormon listeners.
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That's right, magic panties. What the actual you know what? We've decided with our regular content in Morning Shows that we would also bring you facts about things you may not know about in Mormonism. One of those things are undergarments. Before we jump into that fun, we give a little behind the scenes of the Give Us a Sign episode, we talk about a time when Aubrie almost did a stent in rehab, and the attack that happened on Aubrie's small dog (dog is ok). We made this with love, laughter, and cheekiness. We in no way intend on offending anyone so if you find yourself feeling a little sensitive about our Ex Mormon host speaking on the topic of undergarments just know we left that for the end so once we are done talking about Maya's encounter with a Germon Shepard feel free to turn the episode off to avoid hearing Kathleen's take on her dislike of garments. Otherwise, continue on and learn the meaning of their magicalness...is that even a word? As always, we appreciate all of you!
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Happy Halloween all you goblins and witches! Today we talk about Jenny and her husband Jack. Jenny is a known witch who used dark magic on her husband to resurrect him. Listen to this episode to hear what happens and watch as we use a Ouija Board to try to talk to her. We didn't expect anything to come through and we can't wait for you to see what happens. You can watch this episode on Spotify or YouTube. This episode is our first video episode!!! A huge goal achieved. We hope you enjoy the fun we had, now go scare someone for us.
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Have you ever seen Mormon missionaries riding their bicycles around your neighborhood? Ever wondered what that's all about? Well, great news! We're here to tell you all about it! We sat down with Brittany Blackmore, Kathleen's amazing sister-in-law, who served a Mormon mission and is here to answer all your questions! She tells us how the mission works, crazy stories from her time, and how it impacted her life overall. You don't want to miss it!
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Join us as we take you through the ups and downs, mostly ups, of our year and how CRAZY it has been. We had a blast reflecting on the crazy, cringy (gag), and silly moments when we were guests on other shows. We are still figuring this thing out and boy did Aubrie cringe hard looking back at one moment. Aubrie brings up how she was surprised listening back at how forward she was when she put out some dirty laundry on one of the Morning Shows but ended up being glad she did because it's good to reflect after time had passed. We end it with a teaser about a psychic we saw and how that went, should we drop that episode?
We hope you enjoy!
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That one where the Christian and the Atheist read the Bible together. We read the book of Revelation chapter 21 and of course there is a lot to be said, tangents to go down, and racy conversations to be had. Ya know, normal TC&TA podcast stuff. We hope you enjoy it as much as we did recording it.
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Are you ready for this? Aubrie had so many questions concerning The Book of Mormon and what it's even about because let's be honest, how many non-Mormon's even know what it is about? She starts off with the gist of what it's about talking about some lost tribes, how a "chosen one" dug up some gold plates, and how there is some really problematic underlying racism in a lot of its passages. It's not all rainbows and sunshine but it's a really fun discussion about something we may not have much understanding of. Tell us what you think, did Kathleen get it right or would you like to give us your take on it? Find us on Facebook and/or Instagram and let us know.
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Get ready because this one is a wild ride.
We talk about how the Queen of England died (RIP). Spoiler alert, Kathleen doesn't care, and we get to hear why.
We go back and forth on what we think about cussing in front of kids as well "am I being fake if I don't cuss in front of certain people?". The number of bleeps that had to be put into this episode is unreal. So, there is an explicit filter on this episode because we didn't censor words like damn or hell, but all other heavier words are bleeped out for your listening enjoyment, if that's your thing.
We cover how excited we are about the upcoming Little Mermaid and how Ariel is played by a black actress rather than the OG white girl. So, that brings up the question are there really people out there mad about it or are there just people thinking that there is and there really isn't?
Finally, we end with what The Book of Mormon is about because Aubrie had no freaking clue about any of it and it's blowing her mind. Is it a good thing? Is it a bad thing? Listen right now to find out.
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Today's episode covers the path of Brandon Ceballo that led him to become a youth pastor at Life.Church. He speaks candidly about what life was like before becoming a pastor and what it means to him to be a pastor. Kathleen asks some really hard questions that all of us want to know. Tune in now to hear a Christian perspective on being a pastor in one of the biggest churches in America.
Brandon talked about a sermon Pastor Craig preach on. If you would like to hear it follow this link: When Christians Let You Down | Doubting God | Life.Church
The Bible verse Brandon refered to is Ephesians 2:10: For we are God’s masterpiece. He has created us anew in Christ Jesus, so we can do the good things he planned for us long ago
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We're baaaack!
What a great break we had to enjoy our families this summer and to get into the swing of things with school. We have a great episode with fun topics like the book of Revelations and how Kathleen completely forgot there's a freaking dragon in it! Aubrie has made some great friends that happen to be Christian but have a few differing beliefs than her. It's been interesting that she's having to do the same work of being ok with the differing viewpoints much like how she deals with Kathleen's differing viewpoints. We discuss the song My Wish by Rascal Flatts and how maybe having everything handed to you can cause entitlement. The song Stand by Your Man by Tammy Wynette came on the radio the other day and Aubrie was shook by how troubling it was. Enjoy that wild ride of what it brings up. Lastly, we discuss who Jesus is to Kathleen and how she feels about the way others praise Jesus.
We are excited to bring you all more content and hopefully in the near future we will have video podcasting up for your viewing pleasure.
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So we are stepping away, taking a step back, and we discuss some boundaries we have had to set in our lives. It's been tough but we are glad we did it. Tell us what you think about our step back and our boundary setting.
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We sat down with our wonderful guest, Alyssa Calder Hulme, to discuss patriarchy, spirituality, podcasting, and what makes her such a rebel Mormon, and we had a blast doing it! She's a good one, ya'll! Give it a listen, and go check Alyssa out on her podcast: Women of Ambition. https://www.womenofambitionpodcast.com/
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This episode is full of passion on some subjects but before we get into that let's talk about who is on the show. We have 2 special guests, Justin and Brittany Blackmore. Together, the 4 of us talk about how we feel about guns, why we think men are intimidated by women, and if we have always felt the way we do now about the LGBTQ+ community. There is some verbiage that some may find offensive, listener discretion is advised
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We've all probably came across someone before and thought "That person needs therapy". Well today's episode is a run down of what therapy is and a fun back and forth with licensed councilor, Jacqueline Adam's of the Time to Remember the Magic podcast. We get to hear what multisystemic therapy is and how she implements it in the organization she works for. We dip our toes into grief, how we deal with it, and how the 5 stages of grief we hear about is actually a broken representation of how we process grief. We touch on how to shop for a therapist, what happens if a patient becomes romantically involved with their therapist, and briefly on tools to help us manage traumatic situations. If you would like to find a therapist here is a great link to assist you: psycologytoday.com To hear more from Jacqui Adams and all things Disney movie related you can go to her podcast called Through the Looking Glass. Thank you so much to Jacqui for such a great conversation and helping us make a sometimes difficult topic less stigmatized.
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Today's show is a fun one. We have our friend, Kathleen's sister-in-law, Brittany with us to talk about an assortment of things. We talk about why a non believer may continue to go to church even if they don't believe. Kathleen and Brit talk about how they find community outside of church and how it is, indeed, authentic. Brittany , who is also atheist, lets us know where she thinks we go when we die, why donating her body to science is important to her, and about being comfortable with the concept of death. Aubrie asks them what their favorite bible verses were when they were Christian (their answer is very interesting for sure) and what their favorite hymn was. We conclude with where we think we will be in 5-10 years.
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We have an awesome time with our friend, Anthony Archie, discussing a lot of great subjects like deconstructing as a Christian with the intention of staying Christian, how we are supporting our POC community in the church, Will Smith, and the One America Movement non-profit he is a part of. Anthony Archie is an entrepreneur, faith leader, and former public school educator in Tulsa, OK. After graduating from Oral Roberts University Anthony began leading groups of students on local and national service trips as the youth pastor of Kirk of the Hills Presbyterian Church. In the wake of Oklahoma’s 2017 Education Crisis Anthony launched the Oklahoma Toffee Company - a specialty candy company that grants requests for teacher supplies across Oklahoma. Anthony has also served in Tulsa Public Schools as an educator and coach at Robertson Elementary, Monroe Demonstration Academy, and Edison Preparatory School. Anthony currently serves on the staff of the One America Movement, a national nonprofit organization that equips faith communities to overcome toxic polarization. He lives in Tulsa with his wife Chelsea and children Naomi, Anthony III, and Evelyn. Follow him on Instagram @AnthonyArchie
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Today's episode is the first of season 2. We talk about how exciting it is to wrap up our first season and then to jump into season 2. We give you a little run down of the people we are bringing and a little bit about their episodes.
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Get ready for a fun one, ya'll! For our Season 2 opener, we got to sit down with David Fitzgerald: author, researcher, activist, and atheist extraordinaire! He has such a unique and fascinating take on God, Christianity, and the history of religion, and we had a blast together! David shares how he went from southern baptist to atheist in the blink of an eye, ponders the question of whether or not Jesus was a real person, and gives us a preview of a few of his upcoming books! We can't wait for you to hear it!
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Take a journey with us as Aubrie takes Kathleen to her church to get the real Life.Church experience. We got the honor of sitting down with Campus Pastor Richie Leber of Owasso, Oklahoma. He answered a few questions we had for him and we can't wait for you to hear them. After that we give you a summary of what Kathleen, a once Mormon thought of a non denominational church. Did she covert and is now a member? No, but she did go and this is what she had to say about it. We would like to give a huge thank you to Life.Church and Pastor Richie for respecting Kathleen and welcoming her with open arms. You made me proud.
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In honor of Earth Day, we are gifting you a bonus episode! We had the joy of sitting down with the wonderful people at Return Home, and let me tell you, it was a delight. We learned so much about non-traditional after-death services, and how to better care for the environment even after death!
Return Home™ is a full-service green funeral home offering a sustainable and ethical alternative to burial and cremation. We gently transform human remains into life-giving soil using a process we call Terramation™, also known as human composting. This allows families to travel the journey of grief at their heart’s pace and empowers them to make meaningful end-of-life decisions that give back to our planet. To learn more, email info@returnhome.com, or visit TikTok and Instagram at @returnhomenor.
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Is Kathleen really an Atheist? Like for real for real?? Listen here to find out
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You know why Kathleen left the Mormon church, now hear what her sister, Daisy, thinks about all that. We sat down with Daisy and discussed her faith, family, how she became a Mormon, and why Mormonism works for her.
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YOU GUYS!!! Aubrie freaking lit her whole backyard AND her neighbors backyard on fire! Like for real! This episode covers the way it got started and a short explanation of the series of events that occurred during and after. She posted it on TikTok and went viral which led to mean people commenting mean things. We hope you enjoy this short and sweet episode of the wild event of what will be known as "the fire of 2022".
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To say things got crazy is an understatement. March 22, 2022 was an insane day for Kathleen and I. On our way down a very busy highway we got run off the road by a truck that wasn't paying attention that sparked a series of events that ended up with us getting hit by 2 semi's. We walked away and got to tell you of how it went down. This was recorded 3 days later while it was still fresh. We were still processing and still very much shaken up. We talk about how we processed it, what was going through our minds, and if Kathleen had a spiritual break through and now believes in God. Thanks for listening
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Ok so we were guests on a show and it was quite the adventure. We hope you make time to go listen to it so you can see what we are talking about when we tell you about it. Here is a link to it: https://livemanaworldwide.org/a-conversation-with-joshua-t-berglan-the-christian-and-the-atheist-podcast/ We would like to thank Joshua T. Berglan for having us on his show and for creating an entertaining hour of interesting opinions, open mindedness, and a great way for both Kathleen and Aubrie to talk about how important it is to spread love and light. After we cover that experience we decided to cover the new Disney movie Turning Red. Kathleen is clearly passionate about how she feels about it. Could it be because she may or may not relate? We conclude with talking about our obsession with Mini Brands Disney balls and Polly Pocket. Why do we love them so much? I have no idea but here we are spending money on them. Anyone else relate?
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What does dating nightmares have to do with being a Christian or an Atheist? Absolutely nothing. This episode is purely for fun and fun was had. This is a little more racier than any of our other ones. Language is bleeped out but sex is talked about, not in crazy detail or anything. Most of our dating nightmares are based in our college days but some were in high school. Kathleen shares about how she dated a guy who thought he got her pregnant when in reality there was no humanly possible way for that to even happen but when you go to a Mormon University there is no telling how poorly taught these guys are on sex. Aubrie talks about how her boyfriend broke up with her over text message and this is the guy who gladly took her V card when he knew dang well she was waiting until marriage, he was a persistent one I guess (insert puke face). Kathleen speaks on all the boys who were so smitten over her that some even proposed, I get it, she's STUNNING and has a great personality but come on! We also go into Aubrie's most BORING date ever...it was so bad...cringy bad. There are so many more so we can't wait for you to get to take a listen and cringe and giggle with us.
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Join our wild ride of talking about funerals. Have you ever gone to a funeral of someone who was known for being a not so great person but at their funeral everyone talks about how great they were and romanticizes them? What's with that? So we've vowed to say one bad thing at each others funeral. That leads us into the subject of our own funerals. Spoiler alert, Kathleen has hers all planned out like some weirdo. But with that we decided we don't want to do "Over the hill" themed parties but instead do a mock funeral for our 40th birthdays. We also talk about a non tradition after life care that isn't cremation or burial. We then come up with a crazy business idea that has to do with funerals...it's super worth listening to and I guarantee you will laugh at it if you have a twisted sense of humor. We conclude with talking about how we are the most into ourselves humans on the planet and can't seem to write a freaking bio about ourselves to save our lives but our pictures look nice. I swear we aren't that shallow.
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We were feeling extra spunky this episode. We reflect a little on the BLM episodes and dealing with racists. Aubrie gets a little wild and says a few things in the heat of the moment, don't judge too harshly. It's for sure not her finest Christian moment but she said what she said. Kathleen tells us about a Mormon higher up preaching on a topic the was wildly racist. We switch gears and talk about what it is like being 50 extravert in a room full of introverts. Kathleen lets our a sloth mating call that is 100% worth listening to and we finish up with talking about the eggplant emoji...why do we even use it for you know what anyways? We hope you enjoy and catch our funny sense of humor.
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This is the third and final part of the Black Lives Matter discussion with Sasha and Candace. They ask us what is an ally and what does it mean to us to be one. Candace brings up Critical Race Theory and how we feel about it. It's a good wrap up of a good conversation.
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This is a continued conversation off of what it means to be an "angry black woman" as well as what the negative connotations connected to the saying "strong black woman". Candace and Sasha explain how they have been affected by racism and systemic racism. We break down the Disney movie's with black main characters and how Hollywood and Cinema have portrayed black culture. We will be wrapping up this conversation next Monday.
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This episode is part 1 of 3. We set out a goal to create space for both white and black people to come together and have conversations about the negative and the positive aspects of being a black person in America. Kathleen and Aubrie ask their guests, Candace and Sasha, questions on what it is like growing up black, what's appropriate and inappropriate when in come to hair and touching it, and touch on the heavy topic of what conversations they have with their children when it comes to their safety and police brutality. They brought up great points on what we as white parents can be talking about with our white kids on the subject of police brutality and the black experience. We conclude with asking about the phrase "angry black woman" and what that is even about.
We at The Christian and the Atheist Podcast want to give a huge thank you to both Sasha and Candace for being open to having these conversations and helping us understand and become better allies. Happy Black History Month to all our black brothers and sisters.
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After dropping an episode about a drag queen, we have to follow it up with a discussion on how things went afterwards, right? Well, we did and we can't wait for you to hear about it! Be Yourself To Free Yourself: a Drag Queen Story got the most listens in its first 2 days than any of our other episodes to date - and that's no small feat! We also dive into how we did on our 30-day challenge.
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This episode will not disappoint. We searched high and low for the most eccentric and colorful person and found none other than Nathaniel A.K.A Alistair. Alistair is our town's local drag queen and let me tell you, she is much more than just a drag queen. We got the honor to hear their story and to say we were shocked is an understatement. Nathaniel told us he was once a pastor who has been to conversion therapy and later came out as gay/nonbinary in 2018. Through coming out they are now living their best life being exactly how God created them. Hear the ups and downs of how Nathaniel came to be Alistair and what it's like being a fabulous drag queen. If you are wondering about why we used multiple pronouns, it's not to refer to Nathaniel as more than one person but to respect the nonbinary part of them. Nathaniel tells us his pronouns in the episode as he/him, she/her, and they/them and we are more than happy to respect that.
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This episode was recorded via zoom bc poor Kathleen went and got sick, kinda. What really happened was Kathleen was sick but we had to do this via zoom because her younger two had to do pivot (PIVOT!) to home school this week and that made getting together hard. So thanks Zoom. Aubrie asks a really great question: If Kathleen's daughters are invited to special fun nights at Aubrie's church and they wanted to go would she and her husband be ok with them attending. We then go into intrusive thoughts and how they just found their way into Aubrie's head which she prayed about and used her spirituality to be able to cope and navigate her way out of it but made her wonder....how does Kathleen the atheist cope with things like that? We then discuss the 30 day challenge and how well it is going...or not going...and return to how Kathleen has a weird way of thinking and coping with things and how therapy is good. We hope you enjoy!
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What in the world is a Mystic? This episodes guest, Candace Chantel, breaks it down for us. Candace grew up as a preachers kid and has since left Christianity and found a new path with Mysticism and Reiki healing. We dive deep into who is God to her and how she experiences God. Something super exciting about Candace is she is also a card reader so we have her pull our cards for a mini card reading session over the podcast and what she reveals is pretty amazing, it ends up blowing our minds. We recorded this episode in September of 2021 and to see how the cards read and what the podcast has done in those 4 months is really amazing. links to her site: thatreikimama.com and you can find her on Facebook, Instagram, and Tiktok Candace was kind enough to allow our listeners a discount to her services. The coupon code for 20% off is TCTA Thank you Candace for being such a great guest and an even better friend/life coach, you are a gift to the world and we are so glad to be able to share pieces of you with it. Love you!
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In this episode we briefly cover how our Christmas went, highly embarrassing photo's that delight Kathleen, and how we feel about women having friendship type relationships with men bc Aubrie feels a certain way about physical affection and why not discuss, ya know. Then we dive into divorce and how we were taught about it growing up vs. how we feel about it now. We then turn to the whole seasonal depression that may or may not be creeping up on Aubrie bc it's nearing her sisters 6 year anniversary of dying. We then conclude with how the 30 day challenge is going for us...we may have dropped some balls, oops.
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Together we talk about what our goals are for the new year and what 2021 brought. We talk on our personal growth and what 2021 was for us. We also reveal what our 30 day challenge items are. So fun!
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This one is a little racy in the beginning but nothing that should make your grandma blush. We bring up the Sex and the City reboot And Just Like That and how agism is in Hollywood, how they have a non binary character, and how we feel about Peloton's bad marketing decisions. We then go into what it would take for Aubrie and Kathleen to truly boo a pastor preaching. As well as when Aubrie's PTSD kicked in on the day of her oldest child's cardiologist appointment. At the end we discuss a little bit more on the 30 day challenge and conclude with the discussion Aubrie had with her kids who asked why Kathleen celebrates Christmas even though she is an atheist. Our shout out of the day is Ashley Mallory. We talk about her amazing business, if you would like to visit her website you can find it at emeraldexpressions.bigcartel.com and follow her on all social media at Emerald Expressions.
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Hear how both a Christian and an Atheist celebrate the Christmas holiday.
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This episode is a really good one, seriously. Hear me out, we start off talking about how Aubrie "BOOED" her pastor on Sunday at church, yes for real she did, it's crazy we know. Then we discuss the bible verse Proverbs 3:5-6 and how different versions use different words and how one is Aubrie's favorite but the other really makes it sit weird with her. After that Kathleen asks a really good question "What happens when you ask all the questions and you come to the conclusion that this (Christianity) isn't real?" and Aubrie answers it in a way that Kathleen has never heard before...it's so good. Then we dive into Aubrie's journey of deconstructing and if she truly calls herself a Christian anymore, yikes. There are a few more things we didn't put in here but we conclude with a great story about how Kathleen's husband stands up to a grumpy old guy and he may or may not of thrown some hands...hehehe. Go listen, right now, it's so good!
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Get excited! This episode covers all things Harry Potter straight from the Harry Potter fanatic Kathleen. She talks about why it is so special to super fans like herself as well as fun facts about each Hogwarts House. Is she Hufflepuff or Gryffindor? What house do you think Aubrie is? You get to find out here and Aubrie's may surprise you. Kathleen dives head first into why Harry Potter fans despise J.K. Rowling and goes on Reddit to ask other superfans that grew up in the church if they were allowed to read HP as kids and if they follow the faith now. Some of the answers will for sure make you laugh.
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Today's episode covers our Thanksgiving festivities, the craziness that happened during them, was there family drama, did anyone throw food at their crazy uncle? No, but things did happen. Also, you get to hear the repercussions Aubrie faced after her very personal episode dropped and how she is coping with that. We are also starting a 30 day challenge with our listeners so listen here to hear what that's about. Love y'all!!
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Yeah, so this one is heavy too. Such is life, am I right? This is part two of the series where Aubrie and Alexis open up about things they feel guilty about on their sister's last day of life. They also speak of the aftermath of what losing a sister is like and how their family reacted.
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In this episode we talk about Aubrie's struggles with the Sunday sermon which gets us going into cheeky ex Mormon jokes and the funny show "The Book of Mormon". Some how weed gets brought into the conversation and you get to hear about what we think about it. Aubrie then asks Kathleen how she as an atheist can justify the bad things going on in the world, why bad things happen to good people, and how she deals with hard things like grief
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Yikes, this one is a little heavy. This is a two part series that features Aubrie and her lovely little sister Alexis. They both dive into what it was like being the two younger sisters in a world that was rotating around their sick sister. Be a fly on the wall and listen to the dynamic and maybe leave with a better understanding of the situation.
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Lot's of fun and also debatable topics in this episode of The Morning Show. We discuss if Kathleen believes in demons and about a situation with a dragon, yes I said dragon. Hear briefly about Kathleen visiting/attending Aubrie's church which sparks the debate/talk about loving a God if said God let's bad things happen to people to punish them.
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This one is a short one y'all. Aubrie talks about the reaction of her therapist when she told her about the podcast and Kathleen talks about shouting "Hail Satan" to some Halloween people at The Castle in Muskogee.
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On this episode we dive into why Aubrie chooses church. You get to hear about how she grew up in the faith, how she once left the church, and where she is now. You may be surprised because it's not your average "Christian" testimony.
If you want to listen to the sermon Aubrie talked about from Pastor Craig Groeschel of Life.Church about racial reconciliation follow this link:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/life-church-with-craig-groeschel/id73802266?i=1000477071626
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You guys! To say the day we recorded in the cemetery was crazy, is a complete understatement. We woke up before the sun was out, drove through an insane storm, and one thing after another began to happen. Listen to our odyssey of madness and tell us if you think we ended up getting haunted by the spirits we tried to evoke, or if it just was chance that the sky decided to fall on us. Whatever you end up chopping it up to, I promise you will have fun listening!
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It's spooky season and we decided to go to Aubrie's family cemetery to try and talk to Aubrie's 4 times great grandpa with a ouiji board. Before we do that Kathleen tells a few spooky stories to get us ready. It's so fun and so creepy.
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In this episode we talk about how our weekend went. Kathleen went to a bone museum where she saw some crazy things, so much so, Aubrie had to look up and define the word "kink" to see if it defined what weird tradition she was questioning. Aubrie brings up a struggle she's having with how Christianity can be so hard to deal with and be sometimes. We also dive into a little bit of Greek mythology and why Kathleen has a special place in her heart for Medusa.
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This is the third and final episode in the Leaving the Mormon Church series. If you or someone you know is trying to leave the Mormon church go to quitmormon.com
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Buckle up for a wild ride as we explain the insanity of what happened on our official release day of Leaving the Mormon Church Ep. 1. We also discuss our feelings on the Proverbs 31 woman and what that means to us. Lots of fun content in this episode and all the things we did during the weekend. Thank you to Kristi for your amazing gift to our podcast. You can give to the podcast as well through Patreon where we have exclusive content.
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This is part 2 of why Kathleen chose to leave the Mormon church.
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Aubrie and Kathleen talk slightly about how the Halloween episode went, how the state fair was, how Kathleen reacted to Aubrie having her placenta encapsulated, and how Kathleen and Lance Bass have a moment together on Tiktok. Support us on Patreon for bonus content:https://www.patreon.com/ChristianAndAthiest
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A lot of people have been wondering what made Kathleen turn atheist. This is part 1 of a 3 part series that helps give a background on Kathleen's experience growing up Mormon and what leaving looked like for her and her family.
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Welcome to our first episode where we dive into who we are, how we became friends, and what to expect on this podcast.
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Crazy story...we didn't intend for this to be our first episode but here we are. Welcome to a bonus episode of "Morning Show" where we dive into the excitement of our pre launch and discuss current happenings of our lives cue dramatic DUN DUN DUNNNN
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It's a trailer, what else do you need to know? hahahahaha
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