Welcome to Awkward Insurance, the podcast that strives to bridge the thrilling world of insurance with the real-life struggles of those of us in the trenches. For producing and servicing agents, insurance centers around relationships and personal connections but let's face it, building relationships can be awkward. In this podcast hosted by The National Alliance for Insurance Education & Research Academic Directors; Dustyne Bryant, CIC, CISR, MBA, and Cat Ferris, CIC, CRM, CPCU, AU, our conversations are unscripted, unplanned, and may have you wondering what just happened.
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It’s the end of an era! In this heartfelt farewell, hosts Dustyne Bryant, Ashley Fitzsimmons, and Producer Mac reflect on the journey of Awkward Insurance. From awkward beginnings to unforgettable moments—including their adventures in Vegas—they share highlights, podcast stats, and a countdown of top episodes.Join them for one last laugh (and maybe a tear) as they celebrate the connections made and the impact of the show.Thanks for listening—Toodles! 🎤✨Focusing exclusively on risk management and insurance professionaldevelopment, the Risk & Insurance Education Alliance provides apractical advantage at every career stage, positioning our participantsand their clients for confidence and success.
Wesley Pergament, SolaWesley is CEO and Co-Founder of Sola Insurance based in Atlanta, GA. Wesley comes from a tech background and jumped into the insurance industry at a flood insurance startup where he was tasked with working on the data side with private and FEMA flood maps. Realizing this data was telling us exactly where the damage is, Wesley and the Sola team became obsessed with how data can be used to automatically trigger an insurance claim payout. Sola is starting with supplemental tornado coverage for homeowners and small businesses but plans to expand into every type of natural disaster to help people cover their deductible and immediate expenses. Sola has already been approved in 14 states as the first ever admitted personal lines parametric product, is fully reinsured through Lloyd’s of London and has partnered with dozens of agencies and aggregators.
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Monica Adwani is a dynamic leader whose career has been defined by breaking barriers and championing diversity.Monicais a passionate advocate for creating opportunities and fostering inclusivity, particularly for women and Latinos in the business world. As the CEO of Breezy Seguros, she leads a company dedicated to providing accessible and comprehensive insurance solutions tailored specifically for the Latino community in the United States.
Born in Puerto Rico,Monicaearned degrees in Information Management and Medical Coding from the InterAmerican University. Her desire for continuous learning brought her to Massachusetts, where she obtained a Business Management degree from Fisher College in Boston.
Monica's exceptional leadership has earned her multiple accolades, including Young Agent of the Year in 2019, LatinX Amplifier in 2021, one of the Top 50 Women Leaders in Massachusetts in 2022, and the Top 100 Latino Influencer award in 2023. Additionally, Breezy Seguros was recognized as one of America's Top 250 Latino Companies in 2024.
Monicais deeply committed to the Latino community and is working tirelessly to reach the goal of insuring more than 5 million Latinos across the United States through Breezy Seguros. Her dedication drives her efforts to empower and protect Latino families, entrepreneurs, and businesses, ensuring their success and security for future generations.
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Curtis Goldsborough is the President of National Insurance Inspection Services, an evolving technology and field service provider for P&C underwriting, based in Fresno, CA. He cut his teeth in insurance as an agency owner with Farm Bureau Insurance of Michigan, where he became acutely aware of the friction and pain points associated with underwriting inspections. In 2013, he joined National Insurance Inspection Services on a quest to forge a better path forward for personal lines underwriting. Curtis was instrumental in the development and launch of the NIIS self-inspection app and workflow, which is now in production environments with over 18 carriers and MGAs around the country, including three of the top ten P&C carriers in the United States. In his not-so-spare time, Curtis produces insurance video content on LinkedIn under the moniker of LO$$ RATIO, with a goal to engage, educate, entertain and inspire insurance professionals around the world.
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Judy Hughes
With over a decade of experience in the insurance industry, Judy has been a licensed Property and Casualty agent since 2010 and a licensed Life and Health agent since 2011. Currently, she serves as a Personal Lines Account Manager at Anderson and Green Insurance Agency, where she has been for the past five years. In this role, Judy recently expanded her expertise to assist Medicare customers with their prescription plans.
In addition to her work at Anderson and Green, Judy also holds a position as a Customer Service Representative at Cravens Insurance Agency, where she specialize in Medicare Supplements where her commitment to providing exceptional service and guidance allows Judy to help clients navigate their insurance needs effectively.
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Regent James M. Benham was appointed to the Texas Southern University (TSU) Board of Regents by Texas Governor Greg Abbott in October of 2020 and was reappointed for a second term in 2023. He is currently the Vice Chairman of the Texas Southern University Board of Regents and is Chairman of the Administration and Finance Committee.
Regent Benham is the CEO of JBKnowledge, a 280-employee global insurance software company he co-founded in 2001, with offices and staff in 4 countries. He served for five years as an Adjunct Professor of Construction Science at Texas A&M University and still volunteers as a mentor and advisor for student groups. Regent Benham served the City of College Station as a Planning and Zoning Commissioner from 2011 to 2012 and was elected to two terms on the College Station City Council from 2012 to 2018 where he also served as Mayor Pro Tem. He is a member of the Young Presidents Organization (YPO). He lives in College Station and is an avid airplane pilot and musician. Regent Benham received a Bachelor of Business Administration in Accounting in 2001 and a Master of Science in Management Information Systems in 2002, both from Texas A&M University.
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Insurance vs History is a podcast that examines the intersection of insurance and history. Meredith Brasher is a 20-year veteran of the insurance industry, specializing in General Liability, Umbrella and Excess insurance products, wording development, and education. She also has extensive experience in the development and management of MGA programs, as well as auditing for MGA programs and Casualty books of business.
She has both a Bachelor’s and Master’s degree in history, as well as her AU, ASLI and CPCU designations in insurance. She currently works as an insurance consultant, historian, and, sometimes, as a professional actor.
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Dive deeper into the fascinating history of insurance and discover how it has shaped the world we live in today. Explore A Tedious Brief History of Insurance—a captivating publication that uncovers pivotal moments, groundbreaking innovations, and the enduring impact of insurance through the ages. Perfect for industry professionals, history enthusiasts, or anyone curious about the roots of risk management.
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In this special conference episode, the Awkward Insurance Podcast hits the road to ITC Vegas, where technology meets insurance in surprising ways.Join host Dustyne Bryant as she dives into the industry's pressing challenges around talent recruitment, uncovers inspiring career journeys, and explores the ever-evolving insurance landscape. From motivational stories to insights on how AI will reshape industry roles, this episode offers an insider’s view of the conversations driving the future of insurance. Tune in for a lively mix of professional insights, unexpected encounters, and a few quirky detours straight from the ITC floor! Plus, don’t miss our Man on the Street coverage from the BrokerTech Ventures Happiest Hour during ITC Vegas!Focusing exclusively on risk management and insurance professionaldevelopment, the Risk & Insurance Education Alliance provides apractical advantage at every career stage, positioning our participantsand their clients for confidence and success.
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Douglas Ver Mulm is currently the Chief Executive Officer at Turris, a financial infrastructure platform for the insurance industry. Prior to this, Douglas was the Co-Founder & CEO at Stable Insurance, focusing on distribution and analytics for insurance in the shared/on-demand economy. With a background in law and economics/finance, Douglas has also served as a Volunteer Executive Director at InsurTech Association and as a Lead Mentor at Founders Network.
Garrett Droege, CIC, CPCU, CLCS, CBIA, CWCA, CRIS serves as Senior Vice President and Director of Innovation and Digital Risk Practice Leader at IMA Financial. His role oversees IMA’s national focus in the technology, and digital risk verticals (collectively called the Advanced Industries Specialty). He also co-manages IMA Labs, IMA’s insurtech innovation, investment, and strategy with BrokerTech Ventures. Additionally, he is part of the founding team of IMA’s web3Labs initiative and helped IMA become the first broker to build an insurance and risk management facility in the metaverse and issue the industry’s first “proof of coverage” via blockchain/NFT. He serves on the Crypto.Chicks NFT Advisory Board and consults with several other NFT projects.
Prior to his current role, he served as CEO/Executive Director of TechAssure Association, Inc., an international consortium of insurance agents/brokers specializing in technology-related risks. Garrett’s expertise includes Errors & Omissions, Cyber, and Technology Risk Management. Additionally, he is a brokerage technology specialist – focused on InsurTech, AMS/BMS/CRM platforms, data mining, and client journey tech stack development.
Garrett has designed complex insurance and risk management programs for some of the most sophisticated and diverse tech businesses in the country. These include firms in info tech, medical technology, telecommunications, new media and all types of digital risk and blockchain.
Garrett is an alumnus of University of North Carolina at Wilmington and The Hartford School of Insurance. He was named to the Charlotte Business Journal’s 40 Under Forty list and Insurance Business America’s Young Guns of Insurance list. Garrett is routinely featured in national publications and media productions, including NPR’s All Things Considered.
He holds the esteemed Chartered Property Casualty Underwriter (CPCU) and Certified Insurance Counselor (CIC) industry designations, among others. He has been a featured keynote speaker for numerous organizations, including: Federal Bureau of Investigation, National Public Radio, CIO Magazine, Society of CPCU, Insurance Innovators, FinTech Association of Hong Kong, Net Diligence, Healthcare Information & Management Systems Society (HIMSS), Information Systems Audit and Control Association (ISACA), North Carolina Technology Association, Texas Blockchain Council and many more.
Droege has been named three times to the Hot 100 List – a group of the top 100 insurance professionals that have “moved the industry forward” over the past 12 months. Garrett also serves as an advisor and mentor to several technology startup companies and has extensive relationships with global accelerator programs and investors. He is a frequent guest on business podcasts including: “The Insurance Guys”, Lowenstein Sandler’s “Don’t Take No For An Answer,” “InsurTech Geek Podcast,” “Beyond Insurance,” “A.I. Wisdom,” “The Insurance Coffeehouse,”
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Mark Olson is a seasoned communications professional with extensive experience in strategic communications, spanning agency and in-house leadership roles. As the Director of Corporate Communications at Hippo, he specializes in developing corporate narratives, preparing spokespeople, and providing counsel on reputational issues. Mark has a proven track record in enhancing brand reputation and driving strategic initiatives. He holds an MBA from the McCombs School of Business at the University of Texas at Austin.
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Thomas Raabe has been in real estate development and sales for the last 11 years. He was a project manager for Ohio University prior to becoming a licensed salesperson in 2016. He has been helping people buy and sell homes for the last 8 years. He is the broker and co-owner of Westwood Real Estate Co. located in Columbus, OH. Westwood Real Estate prides themselves in being trusted advisors and creating lasting relationships with the people they work with.
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Allison Albrecht is a National Sales Director for Clearspeed - with a focus on the financial services market. Prior to joining Clearspeed, Allison spent over a decade in various roles within the insurance industry - largely on the carrier side. Allison is proud to be from and reside in Columbus, Ohio - home to an eager and innovative insurance landscape, and of course - the Buckeyes!
Nate Curtis is a National Sales Director for Clearspeed, a technology company that enables risk assessment through voice analytics. Prior to Clearspeed, he spent a decade working in various product development and innovation roles at Liberty Mutual Insurance. Nate began his professional career as an officer in the U.S. Navy after graduating from the U.S. Naval Academy in Annapolis, Maryland.
Clearspeed focuses on risk assessment and clearance through innovation in AI-driven voice-based technology.
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Alan McClain was appointed as Arkansas’s 24th Insurance Commissioner by former Governor Asa Hutchinson in April 2020, and continues to serve as Commissioner under Governor Sarah Huckabee Sanders. Prior to his appointment, McClain served for five years as Commissioner of Arkansas Rehabilitation Services (ARS)—a sister agency of the Arkansas Insurance Department (AID) under the state Department of Commerce.
Commissioner McClain began his career in state government in 1992 at AID, spending eight years in its Public Employee Claims Division. Prior to joining AID, he served as a Claims Manager for self-insured workers’ compensation plans at the Little Rock offices of Sedgwick James Insurance.
McClain served thirteen years with the Arkansas Workers’ Compensation Commission (AWCC), where he spent almost nine years as its Chief Executive Officer. While at the AWCC, he also served as the regulator for companies and groups seeking to self-insure workers’ compensation risks. In 2013 McClain left the AWCC to join the Workers’ Compensation Research Institute (WCRI) based in Cambridge, Massachusetts, where he worked alongside numerous state workers’ compensation agencies as they utilized the work of WCRI in making data-driven policy decisions.
McClain served as President of the Council of State Administrators of Vocational Rehabilitation between 2019-20, as well as President of the International Association of Industrial Accident Boards & Commissions (IAIABC) in 2011, where he was named Co-Chair of the National Association of Insurance Commissioners (NAIC)/IAIABC Joint Working Group. During his time as Commissioner of Arkansas Rehabilitation Services, Governor Hutchinson also appointed McClain to serve on the Arkansas Workforce Development Board, and the Governor’s Council on Developmental Disabilities.
In addition to membership on a number of other NAIC task forces and working groups, McClain currently serves as Chair of the NAIC Property and Casualty (C) Committee, as well as Chair of the Workers’ Compensation Task Force, a subgroup of the Property and Casualty (C) Committee. He also serves on the Financial Standards and Accreditation (F) Committee, which reviews insurance department ability to analyze company solvency.
McClain is a native Arkansan. He holds an undergraduate degree from Hendrix College in Conway, as well as a Master of Public Administration from the University of Arkansas at Little Rock.
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Colleen O'Hara is an accomplished executive leader whose two decades in the insurance industry have transformed the way businesses achieve growth and engagement. Beginning her journey on the front lines of the retail agency world, Colleen has carved a niche for herself by applying her unique insights to foster deep engagement, adoption, and, most importantly, advocacy within the insurance distribution channel.
At Fideles Advisors, Colleen has been instrumental in leveraging her unparalleled grasp of insurance industry nuances to deliver strategies that drive value and set a new standard for what it means to be truly engaged in the business of insurance. Her approach, characterized by a rigorous alignment of business goals with operational processes and marketing strategies, has consistently produced measurable and scalable growth.
Colleen’s commitment to data-driven and strategic marketing has yielded remarkable results, including a dramatic restructuring of marketing teams that led to a significant revenue spike and positioning a top 100 broker brand at the forefront of the insurance industry.
Under her leadership, Colleen's strategic initiatives in brand management, value creation, and organic growth have not just reshaped businesses but have also set them on a path of sustained success.
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Susan Etter: With a journey that began at PPIB in 2010, Susan has ascended to the role of President. Known for her astute creative vision and underwriting detail, she possesses the ability to discern opportunities often overlooked by others in the industry. Collaborating closely with our London carriers, Susans specializes in curating some of the most distinctive and successful insurance programs.
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Based in Little Rock, Arkansas, Brian Thompson is a seasoned insurance professional with over 15 years in the industry across various roles including Reinsurance and agency ownership. Currently serving as the Business Development Manager for North America at Descartes Underwriting, he is instrumental in expanding the company's presence in the US market through a client-centric focus on solving challenging placement problems with innovative solutions.
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Terrie Strain, CIC is an experienced seasoned underwriter. She has 25 plus years’ experience in commercial underwriting. All 25 plus years have been in the Excess and Surplus lines as an underwriter. She is currently an underwriter at Med James, Inc. She is always up for a challenge in underwriting a risk and specializing in all arenas connected to commercial lines.
Co-owner and Cofounder of Insurance Soup, the Collective Agency Council, Career Insurance Agents, Tacobot, Agency Elephant, The Insurance Content Project, Soup LIVE. Staunch Agent advocate. Industry and insuretech investor.
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Jacob Galecki is the Founder and Managing Principal of Galecki Search Associates, a professional and executive recruiting firm specializing in technical and analytical insurance talent.
Michael Koscielny, MBA, CPCU, CIC, is founder and chief executive officer of Born2Lead, LLC. He has more than 40 years of experience creating effective teams and innovative processes for underwriting and pricing. He serves as the Director of Field Marketing for The University of Olivet since July of 2023. He is an Instructor for The National Alliance and The Institutes. Koscielny has held many roles in the 27 years as a volunteer for The Institutes CPCU Society, including as president of the CPCU Society Leadership Council in 2017 and of the Underwriting Executives Council. He lives in suburban Chicago with his wife, Deborah, and dogs, Wiley, and Teddy. He has written numerous articles and given many presentations. He published his first book, Born2Lead: Lessons in Leadership in 2023.
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Chris Greene is the President and Owner of The Flood Insurance Guru. He is married to Stephani Greene, and they have one daughter Lydia Greene. He graduated with a master’s degree in emergency management with a focus in hazard mitigation from Jacksonville State University in 2007. He started his insurance career in 2009 and launched The Flood Insurance guru in 2018. The Flood Insurance Guru is a flood education company that spends its time educating people on flood risks, flood mitigation, and flood insurance. Chris recently launched one of the world’s largest flood learning centers after producing more than 5000 pieces of flood education content.
Laurie Dawson – Dawson and Associates, Inc.Laurie Dawson is the principal of Treaster, Dawson and Associates, Inc., a Full-Service Group Insurance Consulting and Employee Benefits Brokerage Firm.With more than 30 years of experience in employee benefits and human resource administration, Laurie provides a wealth of knowledge and expertise.
She and her staff strive to provide concierge-level service, empowering their clients to be savvy healthcare consumers.
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Adam Rimmer first saw the potential of parametric insurance while working at RMS, the world’s largest catastrophe modeling firm. Whilst there, he and co-founder Ian Bartholomew structured and modeled triggers on over $2bn of parametric insurance products and catastrophe bonds to protect governments and large corporations in the US and around the world. They are now using those same principles on a scalable platform. The result is FloodFlash, the first sensor-based parametric flood solution set to provide affordable cover to the businesses, corporations, and communities that need it most.
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Chelsea Adler is a Fellow of the Casualty Actuarial Society (FCAS) currently working as an actuary at Root Inc., an InsurTech start-up based in Columbus, OH. Prior to joining Root in October 2019, she spent 5 years working as an actuary at State Farm. Chelsea specializes in evaluating risk and developing rating plans for personal auto and home insurance.
Chelsea is passionate about changing the narrative around insurance and spreading awareness of the actuarial profession. To support aspiring actuaries and encourage them on their professional journeys, she launched a blog at InspiringActuaries.com.
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In this episode, we hear from David Carothers from Florida Risk Partners and the Power Producer Podcast, Garrett Droege from IMA Financial Group, Rick McCathron from Hippo, Aviad Pinkovezky from Hippo/First Connect, Denise Garth from Majesco, Wesley Pergament from Sola Insurance, Jeff Shi from Insurtech Group, and Adam Wacker.
Hear from Bobbie Collies, CIC from Coterie Insurance, Anna Kupik and Jacob Galecki from Galecki Search Associates, Adam Rimmer from Floodflash, Susan Winkler from CT IFS, Kevin Abramson from Cover Whale, Brent Williams from Benekiva, Katie Wade from Dunraven Strategies, and Aaron Gordon from Gordon Companies.
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Seth Marana, CIC, TRA, CRM- Member Experience Manager - Ohio Insurance Agents Association Optimist, self-proclaimed IA hype-man, and insurance nerd, Seth Marana fell into the insurance industry and has been running full steam ahead to make his dent within the independent agency channel.
Having served as both a Personal and Commercial Lines agent for nearly 6 years and while earning his CIC, CRM, and TRA designations, he gained real-life experience and knowledge to serve in his new role as the Member Experience Manager with the Ohio Insurance Agents Association (OIA).
In 2022, Seth transitioned to the OIA to serve the broader agents’ community by coaching and mentoring agents, while equipping them with the tools for everyday agency life.
Aside from insurance nerding, Seth's main passion is business experience and coaching others about it. He helps others elevate their existing model and understanding of how to delight their clients or customers in fresh and meaningful ways. This helps strengthen relationships, increases client satisfaction, grows referability, and makes doing business a lot of fun!
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GARRETT DROEGE, CIC, CPCU, CLCS, CBIA, CWCA, CRIS
Garrett Droege serves as Senior Vice President and Director of Innovation and Digital Risk Practice Leader at IMA Financial. His role oversees IMA’s national focus in the technology, and digital risk verticals (collectively called the Advanced Industries Specialty). He also co-manages IMA Labs, IMA’s insurtech innovation, investment, and strategy with BrokerTech Ventures. Additionally, he is part of the founding team of IMA’s web3Labs initiative and helped IMA become the first broker to build an insurance and risk management facility in the metaverse and issue the industry’s first “proof of coverage” via blockchain/NFT. He serves on the Crypto.Chicks NFT Advisory Board and consults with several other NFT projects.
Prior to his current role, he served as CEO/Executive Director of TechAssure Association, Inc., an international consortium of insurance agents/brokers specializing in technology-related risks. Garrett’s expertise includes Errors & Omissions, Cyber, and Technology Risk Management. Additionally, he is a brokerage technology specialist – focused on InsurTech, AMS/BMS/CRM platforms, data mining, and client journey tech stack development.
Garrett has designed complex insurance and risk management programs for some of the most sophisticated and diverse tech businesses in the country. These include firms in info tech, medical technology, telecommunications, new media and all types of digital risk and blockchain.
Garrett is an alumnus of University of North Carolina at Wilmington and The Hartford School of Insurance. He was named to the Charlotte Business Journal’s 40 Under Forty list and Insurance Business America’s Young Guns of Insurance list. Garrett is routinely featured in national publications and media productions, including NPR’s All Things Considered.
He holds the esteemed Chartered Property Casualty Underwriter (CPCU) and Certified Insurance Counselor (CIC) industry designations, among others. He has been a featured keynote speaker for numerous organizations, including: Federal Bureau of Investigation, National Public Radio, CIO Magazine, Society of CPCU, Insurance Innovators, FinTech Association of Hong Kong, Net Diligence, Healthcare Information & Management Systems Society (HIMSS), Information Systems Audit and Control Association (ISACA), North Carolina Technology Association, Texas Blockchain Council and many more.
Droege has been named three times to the Hot 100 List – a group of the top 100 insurance professionals that have “moved the industry forward” over the past 12 months. Garrett also serves as an advisor and mentor to several technology startup companies and has extensive relationships with global accelerator programs and investors. He is a frequent guest on business podcasts including: “The Insurance Guys”, Lowenstein Sandler’s “Don’t Take No For An Answer,” “InsurTech Geek Podcast,” “Beyond Insurance,” “A.I. Wisdom,” “The Insurance Coffeehouse,” and more.
Ms. Liljenberg, entered the insurance business in 2004 as she started her first agency from ground zero, growing the business to over $6 million in revenue in less than 12 years.
Ms. Liljenberg holds a BA in Journalism/Public Relations and a MA in Political Science/Public Administration from the University of Texas at Arlington. She is a Professional Financial Representative holding both Series 6 and Series 63 licenses, she is an Expert Witness in the Insurance field, a Texas Public Adjuster, Property & Casualty Agent, Life & Health Agent, and a Texas Real Estate Broker.
She is well-known in the insurance and real estate industries for her responsiveness, knowledge, and professionalism in handling situations in both industries. Her 36 years of contractual knowledge is extensive and is strengthened by her years as a Commodity Electricity trader during Deregulation in 2001.
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Taylor quickly fell in love with the insurance industry after starting work at his in-laws agency in 2015. Coming from a creative background, creating videos, marketing and social media content has worked really well in his career as a producer. Taylor has earned the CIC designation and is currently the VP of Jackson and Jackson Insurance in San Dimas, CA.
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In this episode, hosts Dustyne Bryant & Ashley Fitzsimmons hang out with Jordan Burns, CEO of Beyond Insurance Group in Michigan to discuss his fast-paced journey into the insurance industry. Jordan explains how he found the courage and confidence to go from P&C producer to agency owner in two short years by leveraging connections, community, and membership with the Big I Michigan to become successful. Together we can achieve anything!
Elisa Stampf
CEO/Co-Founder of Insure Equality
Elisa “fell” into insurance over a decade ago. She spent most of her time on the carrier side with regional and national carriers; she was an underwriter for commercial lines and a marketing rep for the Chicagoland area. Throughout her insurance career, Elisa was a sales leader, a trainer, and an advocate for giving campaigns within her companies. She earned six designations and an MBA and has an insatiable appetite for learning and growing. After a brief visit to the agency side, her exit propelled her to co-found a community that pushes everyone forward and welcomes everyone in: Insure Equality.
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A relentless marketer, Kim has worked in various sales and marketing occupations for over 30 years. The large majority of her career was spent in the television industry and, more recently, the insurance industry. She started Village Insurance in 2018 (from scratch) and currently supports more than 300 clients. Village Insurance is where her passion for empowering women in the insurance buying process all began.
Kim launched InsureWomen on March 8, 2021 (International Women’s Day) to fill a need for female insurance buyers who did not feel comfortable with the insurance buying process. The mission of InsureWomen is to empower women in the insurance buying process to feel confident, educated, and treated with the respect and attention they deserve. She is also creating a network of female agents across the country who have a passion for serving these female buyers. She launched the InsureWomen “Founding Member” Campaign on March 8, 2022 and currently has 50 members.
Locally, Kim provides leadership to several groups including the Mariemont Area Chamber of Commerce, Mariemont Preservation Foundation and Route 50 LINK. She recently ran for and won the Leukemia & Lymphoma Society’s Man/Woman of the Year for Greater Cincinnati (2020).
As a competitive athlete, Kim has participated in three marathons and three triathlons. She also enjoys teaching Spinning and riding outside. As a major fan of rhyming, she is also a published poet in “Voices of Michigan”, Volumes II and III, with “The Maidens Voyage” and “The Mother Ship”. Kim also captains a virtual sailboat, The Chit Chat, on a summer voyage to Mackinac Island each year with a crew of women.
It's story time! In this episode host, Dustyne Bryant invites, fellow colleague Paula Price to extract tales of the good 'ole days from two figures without whom The National Alliance For Insurance Education & Research would not be where it is today. Enjoy industry folklore, tales from the past, and hopes for the future as Dr. William T. Hold, CIC, CPCU Co-Founder of The National Alliance for Insurance Education & Research, and Bob J. Rogers, Life & Health Academic Director reminisce over their insurance industry journeys.
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Amy MacDonald has worked for Nationwide Insurance almost 20 years and moved over to the pet team 6+ years ago. Being able to tie her personal passion of pets and professional career of insurance has been a dream. The peace of mind that insurance brings when things go wrong is why she loves her job.
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TED A. KINNEY, CIC, CPCU, ARM, CPIA, AAI, AU, AINS, CRIS, AAM
Ted Kinney is the owner/President of Kinney Training and Consulting, LLC, which specializes in providing quality insurance training programs to agencies and companies throughout the United States.
Ted also serves as the Director of Education and Technical Affairs for the Alabama Independent Insurance Agents in Birmingham, Alabama. In this position, he is responsible for developing agent education programs and providing technical assistance to association members.
Ted has been in the insurance business since his graduation from the Ohio State University in 1973. During his career, he has worked as an underwriter, field sales manager, department supervisor, marketing specialist, trainer, and insurance agent. From 1994 to 2003, Ted was the Director of Curriculum and Faculty Development for PIA of Ohio & Indiana.
He is a member of the national faculty of the Society of Certified Insurance Counselors, the American Insurance Marketing Society (CPIA), and the Independent Insurance Agents and Brokers of America’s “ask the expert” service. In addition, Ted is a member of the Society of Certified Insurance Counselors and the National Academy of Producer Insurance Studies.
Katlyn Eggar
Katlyn is the Director of Education at Quantum Assurance, a national insurance agency with main hubs in Texas and Virginia. She has owned both captive and independent startup agencies and now gets to help other insurance professionals and agency owners launch their insurance careers.
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Jeff Shi launched his insurance career as a top-performing captive agent at Allstate. Along the way, he found the grass really was greener on the independent side. He co-founded Quantum Assurance International and is the CEO of Quotehound - both companies envisioned as a new compass for guiding agencies to digital growth. As Chief Vision Officer and CEO, he helped pioneer features like immediate vesting and the digital entrepreneur model that helps agents build over the next 3 years what took agents of the past 20. In their spare time, Jeff and his Jiu-Jitsu-warrior wife Priscilla parent their toddler cuties Zoe & Cloe and pursue their foodie passions with all things noodles & dumplings.
Sarah Muniz has been in the insurance industry for over twenty years working on the agency side as a Customer Service Representative, producer, and with an aggregator and insurtech. She currently lives in Texas with her husband and two children.
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Monica Adwani, CPIA
I was born and raised in Puerto Rico and moved to Massachusetts in 2007. I graduated with multiple degrees in Information Management, Medical Coding, and Business Management from the InterAmerican University of P.R. and then Fisher College, Boston.
My education and curious mind were the catalysts that opened the doors to the Insurance Industry. By supporting a group of researchers, consultants, trainers, and experts in the areas of Commercial Transportation, Ergonomics, Innovation, and Human Factors; I fell in love with insurance and knew very early this was going to be my forever career. The opportunity to work with this group of Doctors, Researchers and Field Experts allowed me to learn, build confidence, polish my language skills, creating the environment and experience for me to find something I could be and feel passionate about. So, unlike most people, I didn't start in Sales, Service, or Management. I was just a medical nerd with a passion for Organizational Phycology.
Now, fifteen years later I have experienced many realms of the Industry from Fortune 500 to Independently Own Agencies. I am passionate about Sales, Service, Claims, and especially Operational Excellence. I have a keen eye for behaviors, process, accountability, and efficiency. I hope that my skills and expertise can help many entrepreneurs out there reach new heights by learning new and more efficient ways of leading, learning, and operating their businesses.
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Kelly Augspurger, CLTC®
Kelly is the Co-founder of Steadfast Insurance, alongside her husband, Adam. They’re an independent insurance agency in Westerville, OH. Kelly is a Certified Long-Term Care (LTC) Insurance Specialist working nationwide to help clients and financial advisors plan ahead for LTC. Her goal is to reduce the physical, mental, emotional, and financial consequences of a LTC situation. She’s able to do this by having “planning for care conversations” and through LTC insurance. Kelly is passionate about planning for care because life is unexpected and she’s personally experienced multiple situations in her family where loved ones needed care and no one had a plan or insurance ... it was devastating! She LOVES helping families and businesses put meaningful protection in place to protect the people and possessions most important to them.
Kelly was recently named a HOT 100 insurance professional by Insurance Business. She’s an instructor for the CLTC program teaching advisors how to talk to their clients about LTC. She’s on the board of the Central Ohio Elder Care Planning Council, founded the Senior Resource Group, and is on Westerville Chamber’s Women in Business Committee.
Outside of work, Kelly and Adam have 2 active kids, ages 11 and 9, and a big doodle named Eddie. They enjoy playing tennis, renovating their historic home, participating in church and community activities, and enjoying the outdoors.
Kieran J. O’Rourke, CPCU, CRM, CIC
Kieran has over 30 years of commercial underwriting, product, and program development experience in the insurance industry. Kieran’s career experience spans P&C underwriting, MGA underwriting for alternative energy products and alternative market product development, oversight of research and product development, and directing regional commercial insurance sales for a Fortune 500 carrier. Kieran is a talented and respected leader. His disciplined underwriting approach and business fundamentals consistently yield sustainable growth and profits relative to proprietary program development. At Cannasure, Kieran manages the firm’s Program division and guides the company’s development of future cannabis and hemp programs. Kieran’s expertise keeps him busy and is well sought after by leading media outlets and speaks at insurance and cannabis industry events. Kieran has a unique perspective and thought-leadership of underwriting relative to the emerging trends and risk transfer solutions in the cannabis and hemp arena. A graduate of The University of Akron, Kieran holds the Chartered Property Casualty Underwriter (CPCU) designation, as well as the Certified Insurance Counselor (CIC) and Certified Risk Manager (CRM) designations. Now retired from his civic duties, Kieran held elected office for over 20 years as a Trustee on the Village of Seville’s (Ohio) utility board.
Bradley Flowers- Bradley is a nationally recognized insurance agency owner and business enthusiast. He runs the day-to-day operations at Portal Insurance in Mobile, Alabama, a scratch independent agency he founded and is building on the back of social media, personal branding, content, and technology. In 2019, Portal Insurance was named the "Agency for the Future'' by Safeco Insurance for the Southeast United States. In 2020, Portal Insurance became the subject of the YouTube series "Making the Donuts'' which shows the everyday behind-the-scenes of the agency. Bradley is the co-host of the “Insurance Guys Podcast” one of the most listened to podcasts in the insurance industry which is featured on iTunes, Spotify, Soundcloud, and iHeart Radio. Through his podcast, Bradley has interviewed hundreds of influential individuals including Gary Vaynerchuk, Dave Meltzer, and Jesse Cole.
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David R. Carothers, CIC, CRM, is the Principal of Florida Risk Partners, LLC, Catalyst Funding Solutions, LLC, The Founder of Killing Commercial Insurance Training, Host of The Power Producers Podcast, and Creator/Producer of The Protégé. David is also the international best-selling author of The Extra 2 Minutes: How spending an extra 2 minutes on nearly anything in your sales career will take you from good to best in class! He also has a new book, The Dirty 130 hitting shelves in January 2022. David is also the managing member of Game Changers Marketing, LLC the entity that handles the distribution of advertising and marketing across all media channels in his portfolio.
David has degrees in Management and Marketing from Birmingham Southern College. He has spent nearly two decades in the Insurance and Risk Management space. David started his career with a multi-million dollar commercial risk management firm, where he was repeatedly recognized for exemplary achievement.
In 2016, David followed his entrepreneurial spirit and launched Florida Risk Partners, an insurance and risk management firm focusing on middle-market commercial accounts. Florida Risk Partners has multiple office locations in the five counties surrounding the Tampa Bay region.
Because of his success at Florida Risk Partners, David often gets tapped to be a keynote speaker and breakout session presenter at industry conferences and associations, speaking on sales, prospecting, marketing, appointment setting, and closing accounts.
While David is busy, it is important to note that his priority is his family. David and his wife Andrea live in Valrico, FL, with their children Grayson, Landon, Ethan, Caroline, and their faithful Golden Retrievers, Tanner, and Tucker.
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Dustyne Bryant, CIC, CISR, MBA:
Dustyne Bryant, is the Personal Lines Academic Director at The National Alliance for Insurance Education & Research, is a self-professed and colleague–backed wholehearted Personal Lines Insurance geek. Supported by multiple degrees and designations over the course of a decade and rising, her thirst for knowledge is never-ending and ever-growing. Her passion for educating others in Personal Insurance is even greater. She is an advocate of permanency for children in foster care and relishes all the joys of being a soccer mom, minus the minivan.
Cat Ferris, CIC, CRM, CPCU, CLCS, AU:
Cat Ferris, is the Commercial Lines Academic Director at the National Alliance for Insurance Education & Research. In her twenty years of experience within the industry, Cat has focused most of her career in commercial underwriting, and independent agency training. Based out of Gainesville, Florida her hobbies include bodybuilding, gardening, and spoiling her dogs more than her kids.
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Aaron Gordon, CAPI, CCIC, is a second-generation insurance professional working to merge his parent’s “boutique-style” insurance agency with modern insurance technology for the first time. He’s finding success everywhere he turns but has found recently that the hiring pool of available qualified insurance professionals is quite murky. Aaron discusses the difficulty he has had with hiring while Dustyne explores whether the CISR High School Program and University Associate Programs offered by The National Alliance for Insurance Education & Research, might be the solution to this growing industry struggle.
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Tracy Cotton has been an underwriter, CSR, consultant, producer, marketer, and instructor in her 25+ year career in insurance. Now she is putting it all to work in a new role as Executive Client Manager for Starr-Mathews Agency in Chattanooga, Tennessee. She didn’t create this job but feels as if it were created just for her. She gets to work closely with middle market to large commercial clients to offer a more concierge level of service than either a typical CSR or producer can balance. Every day is different and she loves getting to help onboard new clients and grease the wheels for more value-added renewal reviews. She enjoys connecting with industry peers and is a founding member of the #5amclubins on Twitter. When she isn’t evaluating work comp audits and creating service plans, her passion is to get outdoors with her dog, Jasper. Although she still loves the mountains of Western North Carolina, where she lived for many years, she is currently digging finding places to hike, backpack, and paddle in southeastern Tennessee.
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Cat Ferris, CIC, CRM, CPCU, CLCS, AUis the Commercial Lines Academic Director with the National Alliance. In her twenty years of experience within the industry, Cat has focused most of her career in commercial underwriting, and independent agency training. Based out of Gainesville, Florida her hobbies include bodybuilding, gardening, and spoiling her dogs more than her kids.
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Tracy Cotton, CIC, CISR has been an underwriter, CSR, consultant, producer, marketer, and instructor in her more than 25-year career in insurance. Now she is putting it all to work in a new role as Executive Client Manager for Starr-Mathews Agency in Chattanooga, Tennessee. While she didn’t create this job, she feels as if it were created just for her. She gets to work closely with middle-market to large commercial clients to offer a more concierge level of service than either a typical CSR or producer can balance. Every day is different and she loves getting to help onboard new clients and grease the wheels for more value-added renewal reviews. She enjoys connecting with industry peers and is a founding member of the #5amclubins on Twitter. When she isn’t evaluating work comp audits and creating service plans, her passion is to get outdoors with her dog, Jasper. Although she still loves the mountains of western North Carolina, where she lived for many years, she currently enjoys finding places to hike, backpack, and paddle in southeastern TN.
Ashley Fitzsimmons, CISR, serves as the Director of Professional Development for the Ohio Insurance Agents Association, Inc., Ashley has grown up in insurance and has nearly a decade of real-life experience on the agency side. She has had to overcome the same daily struggles and has personally researched and implemented many tools and programs to help her family agency run more efficiently. Her nine years spent as the fourth generation in a family agency located near Scranton, Pennsylvania, obtaining her CISR designation, holding multiple speaking engagements across the country, and being nominated for the 2018 National CSR of the year have given her the knowledge and experience to help other agents thrive instead of just survive.
Reuben Hall has been in the insurance industry for more than five years with experience on the agency side as well as on the carrier side. For the last three years, Reuben as worked at Oswald Companies in Cleveland, Ohio as an Associate Client Manager in the Specialty Risk industry. He is also a member of Oswald’s Young Professionals Leadership Council, which recruits young talent to the insurance industry and participates in various volunteer opportunities in the community. Reuben is the 2020 CSR of the year for Ohio.
In this episode of Awkward Insurance host, Dustyne Bryant, speaks with 2020 Outstanding CSR of the Year, Judy Vaughn, about the misinformation that insurance professionals battle daily. Account managers and agents often receive emotionally charged calls or urgent messages from clients about something they read on social media, heard on the news, or talked with their neighbor about. Misinformation is as contagious as a cold. What should be done when misinformed clients rely on us for a cure for what ails them?
Trust is hard to come by in the insurance industry. Maintaining client trust is an uphill battle made especially difficulty by the millions of unchecked online sources available for “researching” their insurance symptoms. How do we keep clients from getting sucked into diagnosing their insurance aliments? Tune in to learn how you can help them overcome their fears and reinforce their trust in you.
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Dustyne’s Final Thoughts: Working with Wes has been one of the highlights of my career. I learned so much about the practice of communication while working with him. The honesty and openness between the two of us were always on point. I never feared letting him know if something was wrong with one of his accounts because I knew he’d jump in to help. Often, we are successful not because of what we have done for ourselves, but because of the ways others have supported us. Together we rise when we support each other.
In this Episode of Awkward Insurance, guest and Team Lead for Claims at Penn National Insurance, Nikki Wyatt, joins host Dustyne Bryant, MBA, CIC, CISR, to discuss one corner of the gig economy: Transportation Network Companies (TNC). Nikki shares with us her intimate knowledge of TNC coverage and exposures from a claims perspective. Listen in as they share both their personal and professional experiences with Transportation Networks and Rides Shares, such as Uber and Lyft. Customer Service Reps and Account Managers can learn a thing or two from podcast. Tune in!
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For account managers, communicating their needs and expectations to carriers can be frustrating. Carriers have specific ideas on what preferred business looks like, but what comes across the desk may not always fit the mold. What clients are looking for, may not match what a carrier is offering. Carrier marketing representatives, territory managers, and the likes are there to bridge the gap between insurance companies and agency professionals.
Listen closely to pick up golden nuggets about how both agency professionals and carrier marketing representatives can squeeze the most out of their meetings together. Cultivating these relationships will add value for the client and to the agency as these relationships help build profitable books of business.
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So, why is this so awkward?
No one likes hard conversations. Especially ones about breaking up with your insurance provider. When cancellation requests come across your desk, you may ask yourself “why didn’t they call?” Maybe, there was no hint. They just up and went with somebody else. Why is it so hard for some clients to let us know they aren’t happy? Are they embarrassed? What other conversations are they hesitant to have?
Before you start doubting yourself, understand that this is sometimes what people do. They talk to their friends, or they search on Google, or sometimes they are just misinformed. If a customer is too embarrassed to ask you about something, they may get some bad advice from a neighbor.
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Wildfires happen every year but have been astonishingly frequent recently. This past September, one of the most destructive wildfires to date was started by a gender reveal party in California. This particular wildfire has destroyed over 10,000 acres, displaced over 21,000 people, and resulted in the death of a firefighter. How can insurance help situations like these?
Insurance professionals helping folks with this kind of trouble must ensure that they understand the coverage they're selling. Many insurance companies have started segmenting endorsements to help tailor coverage as much as possible. Are you sure you’ve got the right replacement costs for your clients? Do you just skim through replacement cost estimators?
We all know there's not one policy that's covers everything. So when writing the right limits for your client, remember it's not just for the claim, it's also for retention and relationships. But most importantly, it’s for peace of mind, the whole reason they're buying the coverage from you in the first place.
Tune into this lively discussion to learn how you can provide better coverage and support for you clients and agency.
About our Host: Dustyne Bryant, CIC, CISR, MBA
Dustyne Bryant, Personal Lines Academic Director at The National Alliance for Insurance Education & Research, is a self-professed and colleague–backed wholehearted Personal Lines Insurance geek. Supported by multiple degrees and designations over the course of a decade and rising, her thirst for knowledge is never ending and ever growing. Her passion for educating others in Personal Insurance, is even greater. She is an advocate of permanency for children in foster care and relishes all the joys of being a soccer mom, minus the minivan. Learn More!