That's a Hard No: Recent Episodes

Heather Drago and Sarah Saunders

"That’s a Hard No" is a podcast about saying no and setting boundaries to become the authentic and empowered you that this world needs. Join hosts Heather Drago, of Clever Girl Marketing, and Sarah Saunders, of Purposeful Growth and Wellness, as they explore all the different ways we can and should say no in order to make room for the right yesses and start living our best lives.

Sarah Saunders, MA, LPCC-S, owner of Purposeful Growth & Wellness, mother to four, and former co-host joins us to discuss parenting in all forms. With a son newly diagnosed with autism, life has changed. She shares her experiences thus far, her thoughts at diagnosis and how she has learned to cope. Join us in using one of her pocketed phrases "I'm sorry you don't understand". [00:08:29] Seeking support for developmental concerns [00:13:25] Getting the diagnosis [00:17:43] Grieving expectations [00:24:37] Endurance challenge of raising kids [00:30:32] Setting priorities and boundaries [00:34:19] Teaching about autism expectations [00:38:50] Setting boundaries with family [00:42:06] Reason, Season, Lifetime

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Joanna Hardis, LISW-S, a therapist who specializes in anxiety and OCD spectrum disorder discusses the signs of OCD, the struggles individuals with OCD face, and how to set healthy boundaries as a person with OCD. Joanna's expertise sheds light on this often-misunderstood disorder, providing valuable insights and practical advice. Tune in to explore the misconceptions surrounding OCD and provide valuable insights for understanding and managing this condition.

[00:02:38] What is OCD? [00:07:18] How OCD thoughts consume individuals [00:09:47] OCD & Generalized Anxiety Disorder [00:20:05] Common misconceptions about OCD [00:29:30] Suffering and worry in OCD [00:33:06] Setting boundaries with anxiety or OCD

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In this episode of That's a Hard No, host Heather Drago interviews Ann Marie Kelly, host of Wild Precious Life and author of Hear Me Dragons. They discuss the challenges and joys of raising children with someone you love, and how to set boundaries as a parent. Ann Marie shares her insights and experiences, offering valuable advice on rediscovering purpose and finding joy in the journey of parenthood. Tune in to learn from their conversation and gain inspiration for setting boundaries in your own life. [00:05:39] The weight of shared grief [00:05:52] My Why [00:10:29] Living with intention [00:15:12] Failure and learning from it [00:20:35] Empowering children to say no [00:31:01] Classic retellings of classic tales [00:34:11] Diet culture and its impact

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In this episode, host Heather Drago dives into the mailbag to answer listener questions. She discusses the struggle of saying no to projects, people, or organizations that need your expertise without feeling guilty. Heather admits that she still not an expert, but she offers some insights and tips on how to navigate this challenge. Tune in to learn more about setting boundaries and saying no without the fear of guilt or FOMO.

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Dr. Angelin Chang, Grammy award-winning pianist and professor of music discusses how to follow your passions without the threat of perfection. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joanna Hardis, LISW, talks with us about understanding our anxiety and remembering that thoughts are just that, thoughts. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Join our first ever book club roundtable about "F*CK NO! how to stop saying yes when you can’t, you shouldn’t, or you just don’t want to" with friends and colleagues Jenn Prochaska and Jen Bauer.

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Sarah Knight is a New York Times Bestselling Author who supports her readers in "FUCK NO! how to stop saying yes when you can’t, you shouldn’t, or you just don’t want to" talks best practices for saying no and why maintaining a healthy f*ck budget is the most important. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Jenn Prochaska, of The Write Difference discusses the abundance mindset and boundary setting as an entrepreneur. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Beverly Soggs, Child Life Specialist talks how to approach difficult conversations with children and the best techniques to support an open and honest experience. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, YouTube and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Lisa Johnson, of Been There Got Out, talks toxic relationships, red flags, emotional rollercoasters, and how to navigate a safe exit. Listen along as we talk about setting healthy and firm boundaries, especially during the breakdown of a relationship or marriage. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Sara Ismail-Beigi Bartlett joins us to discuss the problems with quiet quitting, why people do it, how to adjust as a employer and an employee as well as setting boundaries in the workplace. Listen in to better understand navigating the new normal in the current workplace environment and learn new ways to better relationships with leadership and team members. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We're almost ready to launch our new season! Stay tuned for new episode drops.

Got a question about setting boundaries, or a story about finding your No? Reach out to us! For helpful links and tips, check out hardnopodcast.com Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

We have decided to bring a holiday miniseries to our listeners to provide a safe space this holiday season to discuss the tough or taboo subjects. We are joined with Kath Houston, Run Your Life Coach, to talk about being and supporting LGBTQ+ loved ones throughout the holidays. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Talk with us about our Season 2 takeaways, what we learned, where we made changes, and how we have thought differently. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Joanna Pavlak of Healthy Core Wellness talks about pelvic floor therapy, it's importance, what to expect from a session, and when to seek help. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This minisode discusses the expectation of privacy and confidentiality during therapy. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode features Catherine Mattice, Founder and CEO of Civility Partners, on how to respond to, prevent, and discourage workplace bullying. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This minisode talks through ways to share your insights learned through therapy with family and friends. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode talks with Terry Tucker about the power of hope and staying inspired during difficult parts of life. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This minisode discusses the differences between life coaching and therapy. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

Dr. Susan Landers breaks down the fourth trimester- what to expect and when postpartum depression or anxiety have disrupted this time. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This minisode breaks down what to expect from family therapy. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode with Roger Williams discusses intentional living through crossing items off your bucket list. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This minisode breaks down how to find the right couple's therapist and when might be the right time to. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This episode is a discussion amongst hosts Heather and Sarah to check-in on their needs and efforts for boundary setting. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit megaphone.fm/adchoices

This minisode breaks down how to find a therapist and what to expect from the process. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

This episode discusses best practices for society and adults in preventing sexual violence. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

This minisode discusses what to think about when considering medication for your mental health. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

Alex Mellor-Brook talks about the best practices for finding love and nurturing relationships. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

This minisode discusses the five most common types of mental health providers and why you may want to see them. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

Alie Basen, registered dietician discusses ways to better our mental health through paying closer attention to our gut health. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

This minisode provides a list of questions to help you determine if your therapist is the right fit for you. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In a world of go, go, go, Katie Leigh Jackson helps us take a step back and learn about living in the slow lane. Tune in for some terrific social media detox tips! Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

This minisode breaks down how to find a therapist and what to expect from the process. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

Motherhood and the invisible load that comes with it can easily lead to burnout. Learn some tell-tale signs of burnout and how to utilize your village and other resources to avoid or recover from it. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

This season, we’re making it a priority to dig deeper into the process of finding and utilizing the mental health support you may need. We’re talking with our “in-house expert,” Sarah Saunders, about what to expect from therapy and all of its intricacies. First up: how to know when it’s time to get therapy, and how to talk with a loved one when you think they need therapy. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we re-introduce ourselves and the mission of our podcast – learning how to say no and set healthy boundaries so we can be our best selves. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other helpful resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

THANK YOU! We’re so grateful to all of our listeners and supporters for an amazing first season. What a ride! We’re so passionate about and proud of this podcast, and we’re happy that many of you have found the content we’ve produced to be helpful in your own personal journeys. We’re taking the summer off to get in some much-needed rest and relaxation with our families, but also to retool and plan for Season 2. In this episode, we take a little time to catch up on what’s been going on in each other’s lives and reflect on what we’ve learned from the first season of this podcast. While we’re on break, we’ll continue to stay in touch via social media, so be sure to follow us on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter. And while we’re thinking about how to improve the podcast in season 2, WE WOULD LOVE feedback from you! What did you like? What do you think needs improvement? Have any guest or topic suggestions? Please send us your thoughts. We want to show up and make this a great podcast, one that’s fun to listen to, but also inspires growth, healthy relationships, and living fulfilling lives. Send us a DM or head on over to our website's contact page to send us a message. We’ll be back, so stay tuned… and have a GREAT summer! XOXO – Heather and Sarah p1HBJRvXvE9n098YFsa0

In this episode, we talk with OHSFCA Hall of Fame coach, author, and motivational speaker, Tony Legando, about leadership, perseverance, and connection... and oh, so much more. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books, websites, and other resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we talk with Tim Dorsey about his battle with cancer, overcoming challenges, and how "doing the reps" and understanding that "everything is everything" can help shift your mindset and change your reality. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books, websites, and other resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode, we briefly revisit recognizing family patterns and setting boundaries to change those patterns. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books, websites, and other resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we talk about changing family dynamics by setting boundaries, finding connection as a couple when life is crazy, and accepting whatever season of life we find ourselves in. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books, websites, and other resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we talk about how to recognize when you're living the life others expect of you, instead of a life true to you (and what to do about it). Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books, websites, and other resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we talk with Sarah Rintamaki about saying no to societal expectations and the types of conversations we need to start having in order to facilitate change. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books, websites, and other resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this special episode, our first since taking a six-week break, we talk honestly about burnout and how to alleviate it. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books, websites, and other resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we talk with Raquel Kelley and Kristen Schneider, of the MOMGUL podcast, about putting ourselves first in order to live our best lives. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to websites and other resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode, we discuss the importance of strengthening your relationship with your partner by checking in on a monthly, weekly, and daily basis... and how to do it. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes and links to books and resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we're joined by Justin Sanders and talk about how he and Sarah approach parenting and life as a partnership. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode, we talk about New Year's resolutions, intentions and goal setting, and how to think about what this time of year really means in terms of our personal growth. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes and links to books and resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, Jenn Prochaska talks about her struggles with addiction, finding clarity and community, surrendering to a higher power, and embracing "I don't know." Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

It's Christmas week, and we don't know about you... but we're freaking exhausted. 😩 We're betting you're pretty wiped out too. It's hard to spread holiday cheer when you're just not feeling it. So, we sat down and had an honest chat about what's going on in our lives and how we're coping. And we brainstormed lots of ways to practice self-care and (you guessed it!) set boundaries. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes and links to books and resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode, we talk about how you can grow your brain and build an arsenal of skills by learning how to set boundaries. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes and links to books and resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode, we break down the 5 key elements of emotional intelligence and provide actionable tips you can apply in your daily life to help develop yours. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes and links to books and resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we talk with designer and educator Jamal Collins about his life and work, how he found his purpose, and how he teaches his students to say no to the “easy path” in order to find success as creators. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and resources mentioned on the podcast. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode, we talk about how creativity can interrupt the stress cycle, give us an outlet for self-expression, help us process thoughts and feelings, and encourage healing. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes and links to resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode, we discuss the importance of talking to ourselves more than listening to ourselves and shifting our language to approach things with gratitude and a growth mindset. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes and links to resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we talk with Jennifer Stringer about when her life suddenly changed, and how she's thriving in the face of adversity by setting boundaries and refusing to give up. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to Jen's online shop, books, and other resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode, we discuss the importance of understanding love languages and how to identify your own love language. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes and links to resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we talk with Jamie Speer, Owner of 1826 Photographic, about setting boundaries and finding laughter and perfection in life's imperfect moments. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which include links to books and other resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In another (not so mini) minisode (part 2 of 2), we talk about ways to help ourselves when we're feeling anxious, and how to help others with anxiety. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes and links to resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this (not so mini) minisode, which is part 1 of 2, we "unpack" or deconstruct anxiety, getting to its root causes. Make sure to tune in on Thursday 11/5 when we drop part 2, which will be a Q&A session about anxiety. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes and links to resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we talk with Ali Klotz, a mother of two, Certified Registered Nurse Anesthetist, and Co-Owner of POP Nation, who tells us about how she said no when her world became overwhelming. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which includes links to the books Ali mentions and other resources. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode, we walk through a technique to help with emotional regulation, problem-solving, and decision-making - basically revisiting the concept of “park it, sleep on it, put a pin in it” - which we discussed in our interview with Gail Palmer. If you missed it, be sure to go back and take a listen. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which includes a link to our parking lot worksheet. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode we discuss how embracing the pivots in your life will lead you to your purpose. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which includes links to the books and resources we mention. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this episode, we talk with Gail Palmer, CEO of Palmer Event solutions and she tells us about the nos that have helped define her company's mission. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which includes a link to the "parking lot" worksheet that Sarah mentions. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In this minisode, Sarah explains the concept of choosing your hard – so that you can rewire you’re thinking and overcome obstacles. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which includes links to resources and recommendations. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

In our first minisode, Sarah talks about the importance of identifying your why, so that you have the foundation you need to start saying no, set boundaries and create the life you want. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which includes links to resources and recommendations. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

Welcome to That's a Hard No – the podcast about saying no and setting boundaries so you can become the authentic and empowered you that this world needs. In our first episode, we introduce ourselves. Meet Heather Drago, of Clever Girl Marketing, and Sarah Saunders, MA, LPCC, of Purposeful Growth & Wellness, as we talk about each of our journeys learning to say no, why we're doing this podcast, and what to expect during our first season. Visit our website – hardnopodcast.com – for show notes, which includes links to resources and recommendations. Like what you hear? Please subscribe, rate and review so others can find us, and make sure to follow us on social media. We're @hardnopodcast on Instagram, Facebook, and Twitter.

Announcing our new podcast - "That's a Hard No" - a podcast about saying no and setting boundaries to become the authentic, empowered you that this world needs. Join Heather Drago, of Clever Girl Marketing, and Sarah Saunders, of Purposeful Growth and Wellness, as we explore all the ways that we can say no in order to make room for the right yesses. Subscribe now so you don't miss our first episode, dropping Tuesday, September 29th.