Ridiculously Imperfect: Recent Episodes
Emily Eaton and Kelsi Foster
Everyone has a story to tell, and everyone wants to feel heard. Emily and Kelsi dig deep into both the highs and lows of life, not just with each other but with a variety of guests. Tackling these subjects with authenticity and humor is what makes their perspective unique. Sharing life stories while embracing imperfections.
Here's a gem! After recording this months ago, we decided it would be a fun reveal now that we are getting back into it. What did we talk about? Not entirely sure! But we do know there's a story from Kelsi in here that you can't miss!
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Oh my friends, how we’ve missed you! Happy summer!
We are dropping in to say hello and give an update on life. Fear not-we DO plan to continue to release content, we are just still in the works as to what our new rhythm will be.
As we always say: life is crazy enough! And this most recent season for both of us has continued to remind us of that.
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Life update: Bringing you this quick episode to let you know that we will be on a brief break this month. Listen in to hear a little more, along with a beautiful yet somber poem; "Good Timber" by Douglas Malloch.
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This coming week has a few celebrations in store for Emily's family, but we are both very excited to celebrate Easter this coming Sunday! Join us as we get nostalgic in reminiscing on past Easter Sunday celebrations! And this week we look forward to what Sunday will hold.
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Wow friends have we been living our best imperfect lives! Not only is this episode coming out on a Thursday, (our bad-too many tacos on Tuesday, ha!) we are revisiting one of our favorites from Season 2. We hope you enjoy the re-listen of Episode 56, "Healthy Conflict is Necessary"! We will be back on rhythm next Tuesday!
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Often we can find ourselves not present in the current moment. We challenge ourselves (and you) to ask-"where am I?" Are you intently living in your present? Or are you stressing over the past or anxious of the future?
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Sorry friends we missed you last week! But now we are back to our weekly rhythm. This week we bring you an overview of how our ski trip went, with a hilarious story of our husbands "mansplaining" driving to us. Sure to make you laugh, and possibly relate!
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As we prep to leave town for a week, we discuss the complexity of handling multiple things at once. Leaving town? Check. Kids missing school? Check. Valentine’s in order? Check. And throw in a birthday party as well! Sometimes life can feel still, but this wasn’t one of those weeks!
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It's the week of love, right? Today we talk about Valentine's week! If you thought this episode would be only mushy...you'd be very wrong!
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Today we are bringing you Part Two as we continue to discuss the topic of growth. Reflecting on our decade of friendship has been such a joy! Plus, we talk about previous life experience that curated personal growth. If you missed Part One-please check that out first!
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Over the next two weeks, we focus in on the topic of growth. Since we have been friends for over a decade, it's been a delight to watch each other grow through life's challenges. We hope you enjoy Part One!
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Who doesn't want to hear us “ponder out loud” about some of the annoying things in life? Picking the wrong line at the grocery store, self-check outs and cart returns are just a few. But as we have learned, one of the best ways to get through annoyances is to laugh!
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Today we start off with gazing outside at the snowfall, and that creates space for childhood memories. Then, Emily shares about her perpetual to-do list and that creates a conversation about the feeling of being "undone".
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Happy New Year! We are officially back at it, and talking about what a "New Year" can mean. Sometimes the idea of creating a "new you" is overwhelming...and let's be honest, is it necessary?
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Another week of looking back on a previous episode! Again, we took 2 weeks off to spend with our families. We hope this revisit finds you well in this NEW year!
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While we are taking time to be with our families around the holidays, we didn't want to leave you without any content! This week we revisit burnout is real. Even if you listened to it last year, it's a good one to give yourself a reminder of how to acknowledge and prevent burnout, especially around this time of year!
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Today we do our Christmas gift exchange! This year certainly didn't disappoint, with unique and fun gifts alike! There's even one that would take your breath away with it's unique...looks. We hope that everyone has a wonderful Christmas week, no matter where your plans take you!
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This time of year is busy for all of us; but one thing we can do is choose to simplify our schedule! Is there something on your holiday "to-do" list that you can let go of? Maybe it's an expectation you've put on yourself but it's not necessary? Of course we catch up and get sidetracked for a good chunk of this episode, but we round it out with some great content and a good challenge to all during this holiday season!
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Straying off course a bit this week with Emily hosting alone! She is joined by two very special guests with the topic of the day being: Christmas!
Sources Cited:
merriam-webster.com
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It feels that life oftens hands us multiple things at a time: like daylight savings AND the flu. It gets dark outside then it feels as if we have to go to bed early, but wait-it's only 6:45PM! Listen in today as we discuss the various aspects of these things.
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You know you want it: a full history lesson on Thanksgiving. Well, we might not be experts but we sure know how to Google some interesting facts! Now you'll be able to dazzle your family with Thanksgiving history they may not be aware of! Enjoy your week!
References Cited:
Thanksgiving Day | Meaning, History, & Facts | Britannica
The true, dark history of Thanksgiving - Potawatomi.org
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This episode exemplifies who we are! Chaos included. Our intent was to have a deep conversation about the pressures our children face, yet shockingly we talked about everything but that. Trust the process!
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Today we wanted to talk about thankfulness! How often are we filled with life's day-to-day rhythm that we forget to stop and be thankful? It's so easy to not show gratitude...which is why we've challenged ourselves and each other to strive to work on an "attitude of gratitude!"
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And, we are BACK! New Season, new logo, same ridiculousness. Today we share with you our hearts behind our new artwork. We are so ready to be back at it each week for season 3!
Sources cited today:
Enso: https://alyjuma.com/enso/
Video: https://www.facebook.com/reel/698967425441738?fs=e&s=TIeQ9V&mibextid=Qg1mFD
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Hello friends! We've had quite the hiatus, but we are SO ready to be back into our weekly rhythm. We can't wait to share a surprise with you about our upcoming season!
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Hey friends! It's been a minute! Today we come on to say "hi" and update you as to what summer has looked like. As we prepare for Season 3, we are slowing down this summer to enjoy time with our families. But, we will be back before you know it!
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Emily is having surgery this week, so we will be taking a month or so off as she recovers. But before we leave for our break, we wanted to take this time to chat about preparing for "big" things in life (like surgery, for example). Though we can't always prepare for things in life, does it provide us with some peace to at least try?
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20's, 30's 40's, 50's....it's easy to have certain perceptions of these age milestones before we hit them. And there can be times where we can truly say "age is just a number". Today we talk about age and how we do our best to love the age we are, and every age along the way!
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Have you ever encountered a motivational poster online or in person, and it truly spoke to you? We use that premise for today's episode, going through different "motivational posters" Emily discovered online. Several are very heartfelt, and others...well, you'll just need to listen!
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Since it's been a hot minute since our last recording together, we decided to take this time to catch up about what March looked like for each of us. We hear about Kelsi's 40th birthday celebration, and about Emily's European adventures.
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After you've had a disruption in your normal schedule, (cough, cough, talking to you Spring Break!) how do you get yourself back into routine? Do you or your family rely on routines? And what is it about invisible expectations that can get us frustrated?
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One more week off for us, so we thought this was the perfect time to give a re-listen to Marianne's episode from Season One. Have you ever had an interest in adoption or felt like there was more for you to learn there? Her story will certainly move you. We will be back next week with an all-new episode on routines!
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We are on Spring Break and enjoying every minute! While Emily's family is in Europe, Kelsi will be rolling into a new decade! Exciting stuff for us ridiculous ladies.
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We are taking some time off for Spring Break! So, in honor of Kelsi's cancer-free-iversary, we are revisiting her cancer story from Season One. It's certainly worth a listen or relisten. We hope whatever activities you're up to over the next few weeks, that you stay safe and have fun!
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We joined families and went to South Dakota for another ski trip! Luckily, we left without any injuries this year, but not before visiting the notorious town of Deadwood. Plus, shopping for Harry Potter items at a former brothel? You can't make this stuff up!
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Chiefs are Super Bowl Champs again! So of course we needed to discuss. Since we had quite the celebration, we chat about various types of celebrations. And today happens to be Fat Tuesday (Mardi Gras) so we dive into some of it's history...well, the best only we can!
Websites referenced:
https://www.bhg.com/holidays/mardi-gras/baby-in-king-cake-tradition/
https://www.history.com/news/9-things-you-may-not-know-about-mardi-gras
https://www.mardigrasneworleans.com/
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Since we are heading out on vacation today, we are coming at you with a shorter episode. So naturally we will be talking about Valentine's Day! We share some of our most romantic experiences, and chat about what this day looks like for us now.
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As it turns out, we were "misinformed" (aka Emily said it wrong in Episode 57) as to which day was actually Kansas Day. It's January 29th! But now that we have that sorted, we talk about our Chiefs in the upcoming Super Bowl and our thoughts on winning and losing, and how to respond in such situations.
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How do you relax? Do you feel that rest and relaxation are the same thing? Why can relaxing cause us guilt? We dive into these questions today with special guest Ali Hofmeyer. Listen in as she shares her heart along on this complex topic!
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What we intended for today quickly went sideways. Possibly delirious, us ladies quickly catch up and then we move on to discuss a secret project that Emily had been working on for quite some time. Listen to hear more about the heart behind the project and advice the ladies have on sharing stories.
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It's easy to think of conflict as a thing to avoid. Have you ever thought, "Why ruffle feathers?" But often, conflict is a necesary medium to attain peace. Today we talk about how we define conflict, different types of conflict and steps we feel are necessary to hopefully achieving resolution.
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Since we are fully into 2023, this was the perfect time to talk about the year, and how we can take steps to make this our best year yet. We hope you'll find encouragement from the growth that we have each personally experienced. Are there things that are keeping you captive that you need to let go of?
Resource referenced in episode: Top 10 Most Common New Year's Resolutions (and How to Follow Through on Them) (goskills.com)
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One more week of break for us ladies, so we decided to kick off 2023 by looking back on episode 6! Sarah Zaske joins us and talks about how perfectionism can create such a downfall. Begin 2023 by learning to let go of any "perfections" that are holding you back!
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We take the next two weeks off to spend time with family, but to not leave you hanging we are revisiting episode 12. Before we enter the New Year, do you have any extra baggage that you need to get rid of? Listen back and challenge yourself!
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Is it just us or did Christmas give us a sneak attack? We share about our upcoming plans and what we are looking forward to. We finish off with a gift exchange, and it's pretty hilarious. Merry Christmas week everyone!
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Geese, poinsettias, soup night, traditions, etc. As Christmastime quickly approaches, we talk about our preparedness levels, along with several random tangents. But how can you expect anything different at this point?
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Profound. Insightful. Laughter. Understanding. These words easily sum up our conversation with Saul this week! Hear about how his childhood immigration to the US shaped where he is today, and the inspiration behind his newest venture, DLO Garments. Though this episode is shorter, it's packed with incredible content!
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Today we take time to reflect on what this past year of Ridiculously Imperfect has looked like. From before the very beginning, to all the excitement experienced along the way. We can't thank our lovely listener base enough for all the love, support and encouragement along the way! Looking forward to what year 2 of our podcast will bring!
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Bringing you a shorter episode on this holiday week! Since Thanksgiving is Thursday, we decided to talk all about it. We also challenge ourselves along with you to discover what your "appointment" (assigned role on Thanksgiving) is and grow by trying out something new! Wishing everyone the best on this week of thankfulness!
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Often, we talk about post-pandemic as if it was a thing of the past that has no lingering effect on us today. However, that couldn't be further from the truth. The pandemic affected everyone, from infants to the elderly, yet it's easy to overlook the post-pandemic life for our children. Special guest Summer Ford joins us, and shares her knowledge and experience in working with at-risk youth middle schoolers, and her thoughts about moving forward post-pandemic. Mental health matters, and we use that as a centering point for this conversation.
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Ever just feel worn out? Like you need to start saying “no” to some things in your life just so you have space to breathe? We’ve been there! Not only do we talk about all sorts of burn out, we talk about ways that us ladies have coped with it. You’ll also get to hear about Emily’s car getting broken into, and the importance of insurance. Yay for adulting!
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As promised, we are bringing you Part 2 of A Domestic Violence Story. As October was Domestic Violence Awareness Month, we wanted to bring more awareness to this heavy topic by sharing a friend’s personal story. This episode is marked as “Explicit” as it is not suitable for children. Her story will be shared in two parts, so be sure to check out last week’s episode first to catch Part 1.
If you or someone you know is experience Domestic Violence, please call 1-800-799-7233 to reach the National Domestic Violence Hotline, or text START to 88788
For Help, please contact: Domestic Violence Support | The National Domestic Violence Hotline (thehotline.org)
Website referenced in episode: National Domestic Violence Awareness Month | The National Child Traumatic Stress Network (nctsn.org)
Resources:
Domestic Violence Awareness Project | Domestic Violence Awareness Project (dvawareness.org)
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October is Domestic Violence Awareness Month, and we wanted to take this opportunity to bring more awareness to this heavy topic by sharing a friend’s personal story. This episode is marked as “Explicit” as it is not suitable for children. Her story will be shared in two parts, so be sure to tune in next week to catch Part 2.
If you or someone you know is experience Domestic Violence, please call 1-800-799-7233 to reach the National Domestic Violence Hotline, or text START to 88788
For Help, please contact: Domestic Violence Support | The National Domestic Violence Hotline (thehotline.org)
Website referenced in episode: National Domestic Violence Awareness Month | The National Child Traumatic Stress Network (nctsn.org)
Resources:
Domestic Violence Awareness Project | Domestic Violence Awareness Project (dvawareness.org)
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We took a long weekend joint family trip to go explore a pumpkin patch in Nebraska…and per usual, we walked away with many stories to tell! Naturally, the entire family joined in to record as we played a very unstructured game of family trivia. Learn who has a thing with SPK and who has the most delicate shins!
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It’s in the name, people. We are imperfect. So, after several deep episodes, we decided to dial it back this week and answer questions given to us randomly. Hear all about wearing socks and water shoes to sand volleyball, and the geriatric dog.
Question generator used in recording was from www.conversationstarters.com
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This week we have Dawn McVey join us as our special guest, and her story will certainly move you! She shares about her years of medical appointments; subsequent organ transplant, and what life looks like for her today. Dawn’s talent as an artist brings even more color into the world. Find her online and you will be sure to smile!
Dawn can be found on Instagram @dawnsing or at www.dawnmcvey.com
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Aristotle said it, and we are talking about it! He once said that there are 3 types of friendships: friendships of utility, friendships of pleasure, and friendships of the good. As we discuss this, we eventually move the conversation to our spin on what we think the varying types of friendships are, and how not all friendships are meant to last a lifetime.
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Isn’t nostalgia something? As Emily got caught behind a parade prior to recording, it spurred on memories of attending the county fair as a child. Join us “country girls” as we talk about 4-H and what memories of the fair were like for each of us, back in Western KS and Western NE.
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We’ve all done it. The unfortunate habit of the comparison game. So many elements around us can cause us to feel discontent, and because of this it’s easy to wish for something you don’t have. Join us today as we talk through this topic. And you’ll want to hear more about the brain hole, along with Emily's neurotic travel proclivities.
This week, Jill Lee joins us as our first official guest of Season 2! She shares with us her unique story of how she went back to medical school in her 30’s. As Jill shares her wisdom, we tap back into the difficult conversation around parenting and career choices. Plus, you definitely need to hear more about the “pig dance”!
As parents, we often find ourselves guilty: guilty for working full time or guilty for being a stay-at-home parent. As we begin this conversation today, we challenge ourselves and others to be open to new perspectives and gain understanding for what can often be an impossible choice.
We are back, and oh so excited for this new chapter! The start of Season 2 is the perfect time to talk about transitions. Starting a new school year? Moving? Just had a baby? Or perhaps you’re in the transitional season of a hard loss. Whatever your transition may be, we hope that our conversation around this topic will provide you some perspective, and most likely some laughs!
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Ok, ok…we know we promised Season 2 to launch in July. Then we said August 16…but life happens, right? Today Emily pops in with a quick update as to our delay and wraps it up with a funny story about her cats and their sister-wives situation. Please stay tuned as we will be back in full force soon!
We promised we’d be back in July, and we made it in the nick of time! This summer has taken quite a few turns for both of us, and in today’s episode we talk about all the craziness. But don’t worry, season 2 will be here in August!
To wrap up our first season, we look back on what this journey has been like for us as individuals and as a team. We then take this opportunity to read some of the “love letters” that were sent in for us, all while looking back on this season with nothing but gratitude. Our families join us for a bit to help us close out season 1. We will be back for season 2 in July!
Just as the title says, school is out! We talk about the upcoming summer and what life looks like, what turtle patrol is, how allergies are affecting us, and we have a bird invade Kelsi’s house mid recording. You don't want to miss it!
We had so much fun sharing vacation stories sent in by our listeners back in March, we decided to do it again! You’ll hear about a passport snafu, RV trip chaos, and other travel disasters. Now if you didn’t get a chance to send yours in, there’s still time because we are going to do another travel episode again when we launch season 2!
Sending your first kiddo off to college comes with a wide range of emotions. This week, Julie Pal joins us to talk more about this exciting time in her daughter's life. And it’s fun to hear more about her awesome side hustle!
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In honor of Mother’s Day, the Ridiculous ladies get to kick back while the husbands are the hosts! Join us as we talk about the history of Mother’s Day and hear Emily explain how Mother’s Day can be a somber day for some.
1 in 4 couples struggle to conceive. It’s National Infertility week, and there’s no better time to take you back several years to Emily & Jacob’s infertility season. They talk about all parts of their journey, the emotions tied to it, and how they learned to heal.
This week, we wanted to come at you with much lighter conversation, so we talk about weekends! How weekends used to look before having kids, and how they look now. Are you a busy weekender or do you like to take it slow? Listen in to hear what the ladies do!
As Emily reflects on the 20-year mark of losing her mom, she gets raw about losing a parent, and how we can honor those that we’ve lost. Of course, we had no intentions of this being an emotionally heavy episode, but the beauty of what we do is that our conversations organically happen!
Ever have days where everything is off? You guessed it, that’s us today. Bear with us as we talk about April Fool’s Day, the coming of Spring, and what it means to us! And hear how Emily knows nothing of identifying flowers, including what was in her wedding bouquet.
This week, we have our first phone interview in our part 2 of depression and anxiety. Matt Lewis joins us remotely as he shares about depression and his story of being in the Army. He provides details on his journey on what he has learned about depression, how it affected him, and how he navigated working through it.
Depression can be difficult to identify, and we take the next 2 weeks to talk with guests about it. Chelsea Reiswig joins us to talk about her journey through understanding and identifying her depression and anxiety. She provides insight on what has been helpful for her, and she hopes by opening up she can help others as well.
Bear in your garage? Crazy flight? We asked for them, you delivered! It’s time to share vacation stories that have been sent in by our listeners. This fun episode gives you a glimpse into some travel mishaps, along with some really cool travel moments. Now if you didn’t get a chance to send yours in, there’s still time because we are going to do another travel episode again!
Kelsi will speak publicly for the first time about her 2020 cancer diagnosis and subsequent remission in this heavy hitting episode. Brandon also joins us in the podcast room as they both bravely share what their journey has been like.
March is birthday month for us ridiculous ladies! So, we decided to talk about all the birthday topics and how we like to celebrate. We even discuss childhood birthday memories, some nostalgic and some that are somber. If you really want to laugh, be sure to listen to the last 5 minutes!
Have you ever gone on vacation with friends? This week we recorded off-site while on a joint family ski trip in South Dakota! We start off by discussing the logistics of traveling, and then we bring on 5 very special guests. You won’t want to miss their sweet (and funny) answers to our questions!
Today we introduce you to our sound guy, the one and only Isaac Moreno! Isaac has been a crucial part of our story. We can’t wait for everyone to hear all about him, and his incredible journey as a sound engineer.
Our plan was to talk about Valentine’s Day, but we spent the first half of this episode talking about heartbreak instead. But hey, that’s all part of learning to love! You’ll also hear how our Valentine’s Day celebrations have morphed the older we get.
Racial differences can be difficult to talk about. In this extended episode, we sit down with Earl and Stephanie Holmes and discuss their lives as a second-generation interracial couple. We hope that by tapping into what can be an uncomfortable conversation, we can create a safe growing space for us all.
Do you ever celebrate any obscure holidays? This week, in honor of January 25th and all the holidays it represents, the ladies inform you of the various ways you can celebrate. Is this episode a little silly? Yes, yes, it is.
Marianne joins us this week to discuss her birth mom story. Often when adoption is discussed, the point of view of the birth mom can be overlooked. Marianne hopes to break the stigma around birth mothers, as she bravely shares her incredible story with us.
Is your purse ever heavy? Do you ever feel emotionally overwhelmed? Join us as we discuss the heaviness that our purse/bag can carry as we chat about how we’ve walked through “heavy purse” seasons.
...the husbands are back! To kick off the New Year, we decided to play a few games together. The first game backfired (fair warning, you'll hear some gagging), but we guarantee some laughs!
Dropping in for a quick hello, and to wish everyone a Happy New Year! Let's do this 2022!
Some people thrive when making New Year’s resolutions. Others, not so much. Tune in as we discuss what the New Year means to us, and where it is we sit when it comes to making resolutions. And you won’t want to miss us talking about Kelsi’s epic crash while sledding!
The ladies pop in to give quick Christmas wishes! Sending our love to all on this Christmas day.
It’s the week of Christmas! And a gnat has infiltrated the podcast room. Listen in as we discuss Christmas topics, and Emily gets distracted by the incessant gnat. Oh, the joys of ADHD.
Sarah Zaske joins us this week as we discuss her being a self-proclaimed “recovering perfectionist”. Sarah brings a wealth of information including a discussion around shame and fight-flight-or freeze. This is a good for the soul episode!
We bring our first ever guests on, our husbands! We get to know more about Jacob and Brandon, tease each other, frequently discuss how sweaty someone is, and then we hear the guys talk about bromance. Don’t miss out on this fun!
Do the holidays ever stress you out? You’re not alone! Kelsi and Emily provide some tips on how they balance holiday magic with adult-stress-overload and all things relating to the holidays.
This episode we learn more about Emily. Buckle in! From her childhood in western Kansas, to meeting her stalker (husband) the first day of college. She shares about her life pain from early on, and how that has shaped her into being the person she is today.
Episode 2 gives us a glimpse into the life of Kelsi. From growing up in a farming community in Nebraska, to eventually landing in the Kansas City area. Did she always plan on being a nurse? And just wait until you hear the drink that her husband ordered himself the night they met!
In our first episode, we take you back to the beginning of how this podcast came to be! Then the conversation moves to girlfriends: the struggle of finding your right friends and what that journey has been like. Are we relatable? Totally. Eloquent in all we say and do? Not even close.
“Sharing life stories while embracing our imperfections.”
Everyone has a story to tell, and everyone wants to feel heard. Emily and Kelsi dig deep into both the highs and lows of life, not just with each other but also with a variety of guests. Tackling these subjects with authenticity and humor is what makes their perspective unique. Join them each episode as they learn, laugh and even cry.
Ridiculously Imperfect strives to tell the untold stories, not bury them.