The Divorcing Religion Podcast: Recent Episodes

Janice Selbie

The Divorcing Religion Podcast was launched by Janice Selbie of Divorcing Religion workshop to talk about the impact of Religious Trauma Syndrome. Guests include The Thinking Atheist, Seth Andrews, The Friendly Atheist Hemant Mehta, Godless Mom, Mandisa Thomas, Darrel Ray, Marlene Winell and more.

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Guest: LILIA TARAWA
The Politics of Purity: Sex and Power in Closed Communities

Lilia Tarawa was born and raised in the isolated Christian fundamentalist cult of Gloriavale in New Zealand, a place where every aspect of life, from clothing to relationships to sexuality, was tightly controlled.

In her powerful TEDx Talk: I grew up in a cult. It was heaven – and hell, and in her book Daughter of Gloriavale, she shares what it took to break free. Upon leaving, Lilia began the complex and painful work of untangling belief from autonomy, obedience from consent, and purity from power.

In this conversation, we’re diving into control, conditioning, sexuality, gender roles, and what it really takes to reclaim your body and your voice after growing up in a high-control religious system.

FIND LILIA TARAWA
• Book: Daughter of Gloriavale
• Socials: @liliatarawa IG, TikTok
• YouTube channel @LiliaTarawa
• Tedx Talk "Freedom Seeker"

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Guest: Dr. Lucas Wilson

Title: Shame Sex Attraction

My guest today is Dr. Lucas Wilson, who is a Postdoctoral Fellow at University of Toronto. His research centers on White Christian nationalism, with a focus on gender and sexuality; specifically on conservative Christian homophobia and transphobia. Dr. Wilson’s book Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors' Stories of Conversion Therapyis an eye-opening look at the disturbing and dehumanizing practices Queer people have suffered under the guise of therapy to make them conform to heterosexuality. As a former evangelical who is also a survivor of conversion therapy, Dr. Wilson has first-hand understanding of such practices.

If you were moved by the film Boy Erased, by Garrard Conley, you won’t want to miss our conversation today.

Bio

Dr. Lucas Wilson is a SSHRC Postdoctoral Fellow at University of Toronto Mississauga and was formerly the Justice, Equity, and Transformation Postdoctoral Fellow at University of Calgary. He is the editor of Shame-Sex Attraction: Survivors’ Stories of Conversion Therapy and the co-editor of Emerging Trends in Third-Generation Holocaust Literature. He is also the author of At Home with the Holocaust: Postmemory, Domestic Space, and Second-Generation Holocaust Literature, which received the Jordan Schnitzer First Book Publication Award. His public-facing writing has appeared in The Advocate, Queerty, LGBTQ Nation, and Religion Dispatches, among other venues. He is currently working on a new edited collection about queer experiences at Christian colleges, universities, and seminaries (under contract with University of Georgia Press).

Social Media Handles for Dr. Wilson

  • Instagram: @lukeslamdunkwilson

  • Threads: @lukeslamdunkwilson

  • TikTok: @lukeslamdunkwilson

  • Bluesky: @lukeslamdunkwilson.bsky.social

  • Twitter/X: @wilson_fw

  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lucas-wilson-2a0753b1/

  • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/luke.wilson.96

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Guest: Sammy, Haram Doodles

My guest today is ex-Muslim atheist, artist, and activist Sammy, the creator behind Haram Doodles. Raised in the U.S. as a first-generation South Asian Muslim, Sammy left Islam over a decade ago. In her words, she left “because I’m a woman.”

In this episode, Sammy shares what it was like growing up with strict religious expectations for girls, and how creating Haram Doodles became her way of exposing double standards and telling the stories many Muslim women were never allowed to voice.

FIND SAMMY:
www.haramdoodles.com
Instagram @haramdoodles
TikTok @HaramDoodles
X @haramdoodles
YouTube HaramDoodles

FIND JANICE SELBIE, MPCC
Janice Selbie is a clinical counsellor, religious recovery coach, best-selling author, speaker, and educator.
🔹 Follow Janice on social media: @DivorcingReligion
🔹 Free Consultation: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/
🔹 Free Religious Trauma Support Group: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/free-religious-trauma-support-group

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Views expressed by guests are not necessarily those of the host.

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Dr. Janja Lalich on The Sex & Power Podcast
Guest: Dr. Janja Lalich
Title: Exploitation of Women in Cults
Host: Janice Selbie, MPCC

Warning: This episode discusses SA and coercion in cults

Dr. Janja Lalich is one of the world’s leading authorities on cults, coercive control, and authoritarian influence. A sociologist, researcher, and cult survivor herself, Dr. Lalich has spent decades exposing how high-control groups operate beneath the surface of belief, belonging, and power. She is the founder of the Lalich Center on Cults & Coercion and the author of groundbreaking works on charismatic authority and bounded choice.

In her powerful research on psychosexual exploitation, Dr. Lalich makes a critical point: sexual abuse in cults is not a side effect. It is a system - A mechanism of control.

Today, we’re pulling back the curtain on the intersection of sex, power, and control, and asking how these dynamics take hold, why they persist, and what it takes to break free.

Dr Lalich Links:
https://www.lalichcenter.org/
https://lalichcenterce.thinkific.com/courses/lalichcenterCE
https://www.facebook.com/JanjaLalichResources/
https://www.instagram.com/lalichcenter/

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Katherine Spearing has spent years listening to the stories most churches would rather stay silent about. As the founder of Tears of Eden, she works directly with survivors of spiritual abuse, helping people untangle trauma, reclaim autonomy, and rebuild trust in themselves after systems of faith have caused harm. Her work centers on the lived realities of abuse, power, and control inside religious spaces—and what it actually takes to heal on the other side.

A Certified Trauma Recovery Practitioner with a master’s degree in Religion and Cultures, Katherine also hosted the groundbreaking podcast Uncertain for five seasons, creating space for long-overdue conversations about abuse in churches. Her book, A Thousand Tiny Paper Cuts: The Subtle, Insidious Nature of Spiritual Abuse and Life on the Other Side, explores the subtle, insidious nature of spiritual abuse and the slow, courageous work of recovery.

FIND KATHERINE SPEARING:

Follow at www.katherinespearing.com; Instagram @katherinespearing; Facebook @spearingkatherine

ABOUT S&P HOST JANICE SELBIE, MPCC:

Janice is a clinical counsellor, religious trauma recovery coach, and the best-selling author of Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook: https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo. In addition to private practice, Janice is the founder of the Conference on Religious Trauma (CORT), and the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture Conference. Learn about her free, online support group here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/free-religious-trauma-support-group. Her other podcast is called Divorcing Religion: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcast. The ULTIMATE Deconstruction Guide and Workbook is available now: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/product-page/the-ultimate-deconstruction-guide-and-workbook.

FIND JANICE: DivorcingReligion.com; Instagram @divorcingreligion ; Threads @divorcingreligion

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FIND JANICE:

Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here: https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media: https://linktr.ee/janiceselbie

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The views expressed by guests on the Sex & Power Podcast are not necessarily held by the host.

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Sex & Power: Chris Tompkins - The Truth About Shame: Chris Tompkins on Love, Liberation, and LGBTQ Resilience

Chris Tompkins is a Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist who specializes in working with adult gay men. He is also the author of the APA award-winning book Raising LGBTQ Allies: A Parent’s Guide to Changing the Messages from the Playground. Chris has a Master of Arts in Clinical Psychology from Antioch University, with a specialization in LGBTQ Affirmative Psychology. In addition to being a therapist, Chris is a writer and public speaker. His work has been featured on TEDx, NBC, HuffPost, Psychology Today, The Advocate, and more.

Today, Chris shares his experiences growing up with non-affirming religion and the shame that it caused him as he recognized his same-sex attraction. From first romantic experiences to coming out to family, Chris candidly discusses his journey, highlighting the normalcy of curiosity and the power of self-compassion.

FIND CHRIS:

https://linktr.ee/aroadtriptolove?utm_source=linktree_profile_share

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Clara Ritger spent her 20s building a successful media career — producing for U.S. national media such as NBC, WSJ, and TLC — while secretly battling chronic illness and burnout. A ruptured appendix, major abdominal surgery, and skin cancer forced her to reevaluate everything. In this episode, Clara shares how she burned it all down, why rest and healing are radical acts, and what she’s learned about choosing alignment over performance.

FIND CLARA:

Clara Ritger is a writer, trauma-informed meditation teacher, and inspirational speaker. Follow her on Threads and Instagram @clararitger. Her newsletter Adventure to Awaken adventuretoawaken.com shares insights and perspective shifts from the journey to come home to yourself. Get Clara Ritger’s free, 56-page guide to taking a solo retreat here: http://adventuretoawaken.com/solo-retreat-guide

FIND JANICE:

Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here: https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:

https://linktr.ee/janiceselbie

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The views expressed by guests on the Sex & Power Podcast are not necessarily held by the host.

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The Sex & Power Podcast: Truth-telling that liberates with Mike Steve Collins: The Anti-Civil Rights Movement

Mike Collins is the author of The Anti-Civil Rights Movement: Affirmative Action as Wedge and Weapon (University Press of Kansas, 2024), Understanding Etheridge Knight, updated edition (University of South Carolina Press, 2023), and The Traveling Queen (poems, Sheep Meadow Press, 2013). His essays have appeared in Harper’s Magazine, The Oxford American, The Cambridge Companion to American Prison Writing and Mass Incarceration, Fight & Fiddle, Callaloo, PMLA, and elsewhere. His poems have appeared in New Letters, About Place, 32 Poems, The Rupture, JAMA, The American Journal of Poetry, and elsewhere. He teaches at Texas A & M University.

https://kansaspress.ku.edu/9780700637140/

Our conversation today focuses on his recent book The Anti-Civil Rights Movement: Affirmative Action as Wedge and Weapon, where Mike examines how policies created to promote opportunity and fairness were slowly reshaped into tools that divided the very groups they were meant to empower.
FIND MIKE on TikTok @mike.steve.collins

FIND JANICE SELBIE:
Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here. https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo

Recordings from the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025 available here. https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Sign up here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

For help with recovery from religious trauma, book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:
linktr.ee/janiceselbie

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Detra Denise - Ashes and Embers: How Detra Denise Turned Pain into Power PART 2

In this episode, Detra shares what it was like to go from obscurity to fame after being featured in a 15-part series in the Humans of New York. She also opens up about being offered protection by the gents of the Harlem Cigar Room, and what kept her moving forward instead of giving up.

DETRA’S LINKS:

http://www.detrasstory.com/

https://www.instagram.com/onewomannyc1?igsh=MWl2cDB2ZWptYmRlMA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr

https://www.facebook.com/detra.denise.52

https://youtu.be/gj4alIQTka4?si=VD1hLyzE8iztnBd9

FIND JANICE SELBIE:
Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here. https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo

Recordings from the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025 available here. https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Sign up here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

For help with recovery from religious trauma, book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:linktr.ee/janiceselbie

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Detra Denise - Ashes and Embers: How Detra Denise Turned Pain into Power PART 1

Content Warning: CSA, suicidality, familial estrangement

My guest today is Detra Denise, a former pastor's wife who dared to change her life in unimaginable ways. After leaving her toxic marriage, Detra moved to New York City to start over. Thanks to both her love of connecting with people and her musical and storytelling skills, Detra built an exciting and meaningful new life for herself—and was featured in Brandon Stanton's "Humans of New York" along the way!

From writing and performing her own one-woman musical show to creating her own premium cigar line, Detra's story of resilience is powerful and deeply moving.

DETRA’S LINKS:

http://www.detrasstory.com/

https://www.instagram.com/onewomannyc1?igsh=MWl2cDB2ZWptYmRlMA%3D%3D&utm_source=qr

https://www.facebook.com/detra.denise.52

https://youtu.be/gj4alIQTka4?si=VD1hLyzE8iztnBd9

FIND JANICE SELBIE:
Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here. https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo

Recordings from the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025 available here. https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Sign up here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

For help with recovery from religious trauma, book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:linktr.ee/janiceselbie

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This week on the Sex & Power Podcast, I'll be speaking with Kiki Negress, The Uppity Negress.

Kiki Bryant is known across platforms as the Uppity Negress: a brilliant, incisive voice on race, feminism, religion, and culture. She is also an entrepreneur and creator. In this episode, Kiki shares about the painful childhood that helped shape her bold, intersectional style of truth-telling. Join us to learn what she wishes white feminists would understand about allyship and power dynamics, and a whole lot more.

FOLLOW KIKI

https://uppitynegress.com/

https://www.threads.com/@uppity_negress_

https://www.instagram.com/uppity_negress_/

FIND JANICE SELBIE:
Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here. https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo

Recordings from the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025 available here. https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Sign up here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

For help with recovery from religious trauma, book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:linktr.ee/janiceselbie

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Jennie Gage - Life, Take Two!

Divorced: Mormonism

TW: Suicide attempt

Jennie Gage is a writer, creator, and former Christian nationalist and Mormon trad wifey turned outspoken advocate for justice, compassion, and community. Through her YouTube channel and “Life, Take Two” podcast, she blends personal story with sharp cultural critique, exposing harmful systems while lifting up the people they fail. Jennie’s work is raw, honest, and deeply human — a voice for anyone rebuilding their life, reclaiming their power, and choosing to care in a world that teaches us not to. Jennie lives with her partner and their kids in sunny Arizona.

FIND JENNIE:

YouTube: @lifetaketwo7662

TikTok: @lifetaketwo

IG: @lifetaketwojennie

Substack: @lifetaketwo

FIND JANICE SELBIE:
Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here. https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo

Recordings from the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025 available here. https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Sign up here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

For help with recovery from religious trauma, book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:
Threads https://www.threads.com/@divorcingreligion
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DivorcingReligion
TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@janiceselbie
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/divorcingreligion/
BlueSky: @janiceselbie.bsky.social
Subscribe to the audio-only version of the Divorcing Religion Podcast here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcast

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Melody Post - House of Yahweh Cult
Divorced: Christianity

CW: Mention of suicide and trafficking

Melody Post was a member of the House of Yahweh Cult from 1989 to 1994. At age 18, she was married to the cult leader's son and gave birth to a child within the group, assisted only by midwives, having not seen a doctor throughout her pregnancy. She left in 1994 when the leader, her father-in-law, introduced polygamy into the teachings after being caught cheating on his wife. In this episode, Melody shares candidly about how her family got sucked into the House of Yahweh cult, what led her to leave, and some of the psychological challenges related to recovery for former cult members.

Melody now co-hosts and helps produce the Cultimatum Podcast, where she shares her story and helps provide a platform for other cult and trafficking survivors to speak out. She is also the founder and creator of the Cult Escape and Healing Group on Facebook, a supportive online community with over 2,000 members. In this group, survivors of cults connect, share resources, and find understanding as they rebuild their lives after leaving.

FIND MELODY:
Cultimatum Podcast Facebook Page https://www.facebook.com/groups/1910498486077283

Cult Escape and Healing Group on Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/2575419069406501

Cultimatum YouTube Channel

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCHrJGNsf1PjQEe-
Cultimatum Instagram

https://www.instagram.com/cultimatumpodcast/
Cultimatum TikTok

https://www.tiktok.com/@cultimatumpodcast

FIND JANICE SELBIE:
Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here. https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo
Recordings from the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025 available here. https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/
Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Sign up here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services
For help with recovery from religious trauma, book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:
Threads https://www.threads.com/@divorcingreligion
Facebook https://www.facebook.com/DivorcingReligion
TikTok https://www.tiktok.com/@janiceselbie
Instagram https://www.instagram.com/divorcingreligion/
BlueSky: @janiceselbie.bsky.social
Subscribe to the audio-only version of the Divorcing Religion Podcast here. https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcast

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Elyse Bouvier - Unfolding Faith Film

Divorced: Christianity

Today, Canadian filmmaker Elyse Bouvier joins me to talk about her journey out of Christianity, and how it became the topic of her film Unfolding Faith, which will be released online for free streaming by The NFB – National Film Board – in Canada this month. Here’s a short synopsis of Elyse’s film, which will resonate with many of you:

Calgary photographer and filmmaker Elyse Bouvier reflects on how giving up her faith reshaped her identity and her relationship with her parents. In raw yet empathic conversations with her devout mother, and her father, Elyse explores the roots of religion in family dynamics and what happens to those bonds when faith is lost.

Some of the themes from the film include: Family, love, identity, and Living without religion.

In this episode, Elyse shares her journey out of Christianity, how the support of secular friends was so helpful, and what it was like working with her parents in her film.

LINKS:

Unfolding Faith can be streamed free of charge on the National Film Board of Canada platform nfb.ca or the NFB app.

Rocky Mountain Atheists

We(stern) Can(adian) Reason Conference

FIND JANICE SELBIE:

Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here.

Recordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:

Threads: https://www.threads.com/@divorcingreligion

BlueSky: @janiceselbie.bsky.social

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DivorcingReligion

TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@janiceselbie

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcingreligion/

Subscribe to the audio-only version of the Divorcing Religion Podcast here:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcast

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The views expressed by guests are not necessarily held by the host.

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Dr. Pavna K. Sodhi (Part2) - Navigating Internalized Racism in 3rd-Generation Punjabi-Sikh Immigrants

Welcome to Part 2 of my interview with Dr. Pavna K. Sodhi.
Dr. Sodhi joins me again to share her knowledge about Punjabi-Sikh teachings, values, practices, and experiences. Today, we discuss internalized racism and how it can force 3rd-generation Punjabi-Sikh Immigrants to divorce religion. Dr. Sodhi shares her personal experiences as a 2nd-generation Punjabi-Sikh Immigrant and the challenges and opportunities of raising her children in Canada.

ABOUT Dr. SODHI:
Pavna K. Sodhi (she/her), EdD, is a registered psychotherapist, author, speaker, and adjunct professor residing in Ontario, Canada. With over 25 years of psychotherapeutic and research experience, Dr. Sodhi has interacted with a multitude of populations in various clinical, academic, and supervisory spaces. Her professional background and personal narrative offer a unique research perspective regarding culturally responsive trauma-informed work, BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, and People of Colour) communities, and immigrant mental health. Her research has been featured in national and international scholarly journals and books. She credits her Punjabi-Sikh upbringing and lived experience for her continued interest in these timely topics. As a productive ally, she takes pride in decentring systemic racism, breaking barriers, and encouraging others to be culturally responsive. Her latest book titled, Trauma-Informed Psychotherapy for BIPOC Communities: Decolonizing Mental Health (Routledge) was launched in June 2024.

FIND Dr. SODHI:
Her book:
https://www.routledge.com/authors/i16038-pavna-k-sodhi?srsltid=AfmBOooC1Epb96bBMPCvsQdMiOVHHzOWpPku2b-7pVApOLqDfePmEIij
Website: https://www.pavnaksodhi.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sunotherapy/
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pavna-k-sodhi-she-her-67b81615/

FIND JANICE SELBIE:
Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here.
Recordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/
Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services
Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:
Threads: https://www.threads.com/@divorcingreligion
BlueSky: @janiceselbie.bsky.social
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/DivorcingReligion
TikTok: https://www.tiktok.com/@janiceselbie
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcingreligion/
Subscribe to the audio-only version of the Divorcing Religion Podcast here:
https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcast

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The views expressed by guests are not necessarily held by the host.

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Dr. Sarah Farrell - Shattering Into a Whole

Divorced: Christian Fundamentalism

Sarah M. Farrell, PhD, MSW, LICSW is a researcher, academic, and clinical social worker (who sometimes fancies herself a stand-up comedian). She has over a decade of clinical practice experience with diverse clientele. Having grown up in a deeply insular religious group practicing evangelical fundamentalism, she focuses both on seeking empirical knowledge and shedding light on stories that have been held back for too long. Systemic injustice within the church is perpetuated by lack of resources and lack of access to knowledge with which to make informed choices. She seeks to do what she can to be the voice she lacked. Her research seeks to answer questions about what has happened and what can change for the better.

Today, Sarah shares about growing up in an insular religious group and how she came to understand her experiences were outside the norm while attending college. Her slow but steady deconstruction was also influenced by changes in the political landscape.

FIND DR. FARRELL:

https://sarahmfarrell.com/

Threads: https://www.threads.com/@gertrude.peebles

Email: contact@sarahmfarrell.com

FIND JANICE SELBIE:

Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here: https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo

Recordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for support:

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Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here:

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Lacey Bond - From Bible Study to Sex Ed, Part 2

Divorced: Christianity

CW: Frank discussion about sex

Lacey Bond (IntimacyLacey) is a Certified Sex, Relationship, and Intimacy Coach and sex/kink educator based in Los Angeles. She's dedicated to helping people heal from Purity Culture, growing healthy relationships with other people and developing awesome, shame-free sexuality.

Today, Lacey educates us about sexuality spectrums, consent and coercion, and kinksploration for the purity survivor.

FIND LACEY:

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/intimacylacey

Tiktok under @IntimacyLacey

www.IntimacyLacey.com

Lacey’s Kink & Purity Culture book research info/interest page:

https://www.intimacylacey.com/book-research-interest

FIND JANICE SELBIE:

Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here: https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo

Recordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcingreligion/

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Timmy Joe Gibson - Former Tongue Talkin, Holy Rollin, Bible Thumper

Divorced: Christianity

Timmy Gibson, is a former fundamental evangelical Bible thumping tongue-talking Holy Ghost Rollin Pastor. After graduating Bible College, Timmy spent 30 years teaching and preaching the Bible, with his main message being that the only way to escape the eternal flames of Hell was to accept Jesus Christ as your Lord and Savior. Ironically, this “pursuit of truth” led him away from Christianity, which he now views as just a mythical man-made story.

FIND TIMMY GIBSON on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCDx3pY5NGp7qpTXVXbHbKMg

FIND JANICE SELBIE:

Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here: https://amzn.to/4mnDxuo

Recordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcingreligion/

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Lacey Bond - From Bible Study to Sex Ed, Part 1

Divorced: Christianity

CW: Frank discussion about sex

Lacey Bond (IntimacyLacey) is a Certified Sex, Relationship, and Intimacy Coach and sex/kink educator based in Los Angeles. She's dedicated to helping people heal from Purity Culture, growing healthy relationships with other people and developing awesome, shame-free sexuality.

Lacey lived the quintessential Purity Culture Experience (raised in the Evangelical church and youth group, Bible study, and Christian school, graduated from Biola University, featured in the 2015 documentary Give Me Sex Jesus), and she's here to tell you that all of us can heal from it.

FIND LACEY:

Instagram

Tiktok under @IntimacyLacey

www.IntimacyLacey.com

Lacey’s Kink & Purity Culture book research info/interest page:

https://www.intimacylacey.com/book-research-interest

FIND JANICE SELBIE:

Janice Selbie's best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here.

Recordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen online Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcingreligion/

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David Hayward - The Naked Pastor, Revealed

Divorced: Christianity

My guest today is known by many of you for his powerful cartoons and paintings related to deconstruction from Christianity. I’m speaking with my fellow Canadian, David Hayward, who is an ex-pastor turned full-time artist. David is also known as The Naked Pastor. He's been blogging about spirituality, deconstruction, and religious freedom since 2006. He is also the author of several books, including Til Doubt Do Us Part and Flip It Like This.

David participated on the Ex-Clergy Panel at CORT2021, the inaugural Conference on Religious Trauma, along with Dan Barker, Clint Heacock, and Tim Sledge.

FIND DAVID: https://nakedpastor.com/

JANICE SELBIE

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is available here.

Recordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific. Don't miss your chance to connect with others on the healing journey: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need 1:1 help recovering from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here:

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcingreligion/

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Pamela Jones - Escaping a Deadly Polygamous Cult

DIVORCED: FLDS Cults

TW: Brief mention of CSA and child abuse in this episode

In 1965, PAMELA JONES was born in Los Molinos, Mexico, into a polygamous Mormon cult known as The Church of the Firstborn of the Fullness of Time. As the eldest daughter of 13 children, she left school at age 11 to care for her younger siblings in a remote desert compound without electricity or running water.

Married at 15, Pamela found herself trapped at Zion’s Camp, an even more oppressive cult offshoot, with a husband more controlling and manipulative than her abusive father.

At age 34, after 17 pregnancies and 9 children, Pamela and her kids escaped to the United States. With no resources and less than a fifth-grade education, she found work cleaning houses, determined to build a new life for her family.

Today Pamela and her sister Vera, also a cult survivor, host the podcast Wicked Confessions Uncensored, exploring the hidden world of polygamous cults, where pretenses of holiness mask shocking truths. Pamela and Vera pull back the curtain to reveal the scandals, immorality, hypocrisy, betrayal, and hidden reality of life in these oppressive and secretive communities.

Pamela lives outside Minneapolis with her sweetheart, Rick, close to her 9 children and 30 grandchildren. The Dirt Beneath Our Door: My Journey to Freedom After Escaping a Polygamous Mormon Cult is her first book.

FIND PAMELA JONES:

Website: https://www.pamelaspeaks.live/

Book: The Dirt Beneath Our Door https://www.simonandschuster.com/books/The-Dirt-Beneath-Our-Door/Pamela-Jones/9781637747292

Podcast: Wicked Confessions Uncensored is available on most podcast platforms.

FIND JANICE:

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA:

Amazon.com
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

and CANADA

Amazon
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Recordings are available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket now:

https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wisecounsellor/

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Tara Jean Stevens - Heaven Bent

Divorced: Pentecostalism

CW: Sexuality discussed

Today I’m speaking with fellow Canadian Tara Jean (TJ) Stevens, the host and creator of Heaven Bent, a podcast docuseries with a special focus on Pentecostal and Charismatic movements. In addition to her successful podcast, TJ has also been a morning show favourite on Vancouver radio & TV for 25 years. Listen to "Tara Jean in the Morning" on Wave 98.3 - Vancouver's Coolest Vibe.

In this episode, TJ shares candidly how the “Toronto Blessing” and other charismatic Christian experiences impacted her life.

FIND HEAVEN BENT: https://lnk.to/HeavenBentPod
IG: https://lnk.to/HeavenBentPod
FB: https://www.instagram.com/heavenbentpod/

FIND JANICE SELBIE

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZFRecordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific/8 Eastern and Thursdays at 5pm Pacific/8pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcingreligion/

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Karrah Youngblood - Exposing A Predator: Wildfire

TW: Violence and sexual assault

Karrah Youngblood is a professional artist, single mom, and unexpected memoirist from Oklahoma. She never planned to be an activist, but standing up to the man who hurt her — and so many others — turned into a fight she couldn’t walk away from.

Karrah is now telling her story: The story of what happens when one woman refuses to stay silent, despite every reason to. Wildfire, A Memoir, is about how Karrah Youngblood stood up to one of the most documented predators in modern history – and to the systemic injustice that protected him at every turn.

In Karrah’s own words:

“My art has been featured by NPR, TMZ, and Comic-Con, but Wildfire is the creation I’m most proud of. Telling my story seemed like the obvious thing to do since a serial predator tried so hard to stop it. Writing and Publishing Wildfire feels like the closest form of Justice I will ever receive. I wrote it to reclaim my voice — and to help others find theirs.”

FIND KARRAH:

spreadthewildfire.com

pumpkinbrains.com (Karrah’s art)

facebook.com/karrah

Tiktok.com/@pumpkinbrains

FIND JANICE SELBIE:

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZFRecordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific/8 Eastern and Thursdays at 3pm Pacific/6pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/divorcingreligion/

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Pamela Nickel Williams - Scientology: When Lies Are True

DIVORCED: Scientology

TW: Incest

Pamela Nickel Williams was born into Scientology. Her parents were early Scientologists who worked closely with L. Ron Hubbard, Scientology’s founder, at the first Church of Scientology in the late 1950s. Pamela and her parents were practicing members of the church until the late 1970s. After years of burying her childhood memories, Pamela began writing and documenting her experiences, seeking to acknowledge the abuse she suffered, and to try and understand the dysfunction that existed within her family due to Scientology’s beliefs and practices.

Her memoir, Clearly Lies Are True, is a powerful and compelling first-hand narrative account of her experiences as a child during the early inception of Scientology. As both a cult survivor, and a survivor of sexual abuse, her book chronicles her parents’ search for “Total Freedom,” her sexual abuse at the hands of her father, and her mother's psychosis, which was brought about by Scientology.

FIND PAMELA, HER SOCIALS, AND HER BOOK

https://linktr.ee/clearlyliesaretrue *A portion of the proceeds from the sale of her book will be donated to the

Michael J. Rinder Aftermath Foundation, a non-profit organization that provides resources, support, and advocacy to those who leave Scientology and the Sea Org.

FIND JANICE SELBIE

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book, Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook, is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZFRecordings are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket:

https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific/8 Eastern and Thursdays at 3pm Pacific/6pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Allie Monday - Erotic Photographer & Worshiper of Women

DIVORCED: Fundamentalism

TW: Eating disorder mentioned briefly

My guest today was one of our sponsors for Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture 2025. Allie Monday is an erotic photographer and the creator of Ladygroove, a body-led portrait experience rooted in healing, sensuality, and self-acceptance. Her work invites women to shed shame and come home to their erotic aliveness. With over a decade behind the lens & 500+ women photographed, she blends artful witnessing with deep playful presence to create images that feel like sacred artifacts.

Today, Allie shares her evolution from growing up in a Southern Baptist-type tradition and being an abstinence-only teacher to working in the field of erotic photography and empowering women to love themselves and fully experience pleasure. Allie's work has recently been published in the book HER BODY: A Riotous Celebration of the Female Form, and it's available through her website.

FIND ALLIE:

website: www.iamladygroove.com

IG: instagram.com/ladygroove

FIND JANICE:

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA:

Amazon.com
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

and CANADA

Amazon
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Recordings are available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket now:

https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Follow Janice and Divorcing Religion on Social Media:

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wisecounsellor/

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Cynane Shay - Tinfoil Hats and Lizard People PART TWO

DIVORCED: Christianity

TW: Antisemitism, violence, and satanism are all mentioned in this episode.

Today, nuclear engineer and writer Cynane Shay joins me for Part 2 of our conversation, "Tinfoil Hats and Lizard People." Our discussion today is based on research Cynane has conducted over the past few years to gain an understanding of where and how QAnon beliefs and antisemitic conspiracy theories originated. This research has taken Cynane several hundred years into the past, so buckle up for our deep dive!

FIND CYNANE: More information, EXvangelical reading recommendations, and social media links are found on her website: www.TakingOffTheTinfoilHat.com

FIND JANICE:

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA:

Amazon.com
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

and CANADA

Amazon
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Recordings are available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket now:

https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wisecounsellor/

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Cynane Shay - Tinfoil Hats & Lizard People PART ONE
DIVORCED: Christianity

Cynane Shay is a nuclear engineer living in South Carolina. Her childhood in White Christian Nationalism normalized conspiracy theories like Obama Birtherism and the Biblical apocalypse; but 2020, with COVID and Qanon, finally made her realize something was deeply wrong.

Now Cynane is writing a book, “Taking Off the Tinfoil Hat: How Lizard People and Space Lasers Dismantled my Christian Worldview,” to process the deconstruction of her fundamentalist evangelical faith and her propagandistic patriotism.
Losing loved ones to the pandemic was a tragedy, but losing loved ones to the rabbit hole was its own tragedy that left too many of us with unresolved trauma and unanswered questions. So from Flat Earth to the IBLP cult to Jewish space lasers, Cynane pulled the thread, cracked her faith, and found the inseparable link between cults, conspiracy theories, and American White Christian Nationalism.

FIND CYNANE: More information, EXvangelical reading recommendations, and social media links are found on her website: www.TakingOffTheTinfoilHat.com

FIND JANICE:

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA:

Amazon.com
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

and CANADA

Amazon
https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Recordings are available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket now:

https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/wisecounsellor/

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Alyona Smoky - A Beautiful Liberation

CW: War in Ukraine

Alyona Smoky was born and raised in Ukraine, where her mother joined a high-control, conservative evangelical church when Alyona was young. As a result of family stressors, Alyona shouldered much of the emotional burden in her family as a child, and she grew up very quickly in a chaotic and emotionally intense environment.

When she was 16, Alyona moved to the U.S. with her family due to political unrest in Ukraine. She found coming to the U.S. disorienting, having left behind community and structure while carrying internalized religious control with her. Alyona felt stuck between two worlds — Ukrainian and American — and didn’t feel truly at home in either.

In this episode, Alyona shares her fascinating story of immigration and her liberation from high-demand religion and purity culture. Don't miss her journey of becoming a coach, writer, and photographer, as she helps others recover from high-control systems, including religion, cults, and ideology-heavy environments. Alyona also hosts the Showing Up Sustainably Podcast.

FIND ALYONA:

Alyona's Linktree: https://linktr.ee/alyonasmoky?utm_source=linktree_profile_share

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Michelle Moffitt - From Abuse to Freedom

CW: Sexual Assault

Michelle Moffitt Rogers is a licensed therapist, Enneagram expert, and author. In this episode, Michelle shares her story and explores the psychological impact of spiritual abuse, the complexities of leaving both faith and a toxic marriage to a pastor, and what healing looks like on the other side.

You won't want to miss her raw, honest exposé about the dangers of being a pastor's wife when the pastor isn't safe.

Her book is called Cracked Open: A Journey to a Resilient and Independent Mindset.

FIND MICHELLE:

Linkedin: linkedin.com/in/michellemoffittcoach
Instagram: instagram.com/michellemoffittcoach

Book on Amazon: https://a.co/d/5uhrmnb

Indie Books: bookshop.org/p/books/cracked-open-a-journey-to-a-resilient-and-independent-mindset/8fdfa2c36aade660?ean=9798889262671&next=t

Website: https://fiveoakscounseling.com/

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Recordings are available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket now:

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Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

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Steve Ghikadis - Humanism from the Heart

Steve Ghikadis is a Humanist Officiant who conducts secular marriages, memorials, and many more meaningful life-affirming celebrations. Raised as a freethinker, Steve has been married to a Christian for over a decade. He and his wife, Cindy, believe in the importance of bridging the gap between believers and non-believers. Their two young children are being raised in an interfaith household and are free to choose their own path.

Steve's family dynamic inspired him to write Humanism from the Heart: Building Bridges Beyond Belief, a book that emphasizes the importance of working together to celebrate the diversity of worldviews. Steve serves as an Ambassador for Humanist Canada, Recovering from Religion, and Sunday Assembly. In 2024, he was awarded the King Charles III Coronation Medal for significant contributions to his community in Windsor/Essex, Ontario, Canada.

In this episode, I ask Steve some challenging questions about raising kids with a Believer, whether religious people can be humanists, and more.

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Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF

And Canada: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook - Kindle edition by Selbie, Janice. Religion & Spirituality Kindle eBooks @ Amazon.com.
amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF
and CANADA: https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Recordings are available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket now:

https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here:

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Forest Benedict, LMFT - Porn Is Not the Problem

Divorced: Evangelical Christianity
CW: Frank discussion of porn, sex, and self-pleasure

Forest Benedict is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist in California and Washington states who specializes in religious trauma and sexual shame.

Forest began his career as a Christian who was passionate about helping others recover from sex and porn addiction—believing at the time that he was in recovery himself. He became a leading voice in the “anti-pornography movement,” and served as the Clinical Director of a sex addiction treatment program and trained pastors and therapists in a sex addiction certification program.

Since deconverting from Christianity, Forest has dramatically shifted his focus to helping those wounded by religious systems reclaim their sexuality and authentic sense of self. Today, he offers online therapy through his private practice and also works online with Storm Haven Counseling & Wellness in Temecula, California. Forest is active on social media and regularly shares insights through his blog.

FIND FOREST:
Website: ForestBenedict.com
Instagram: @ForestBenedictLMFT
FIND JANICE:
Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Recordings are available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference 2025! Get your Resource Ticket now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services
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Pavna K. Sodhi, EdD - Exploring the Intersections of Punjabi-Sikh Cultural/Religious Identity - Part 1

As a humanist and mental health clinician, I'm interested in learning about other cultures and belief systems. To that end, Dr. Pavna K. Sodhi graciously agreed to join me on the Divorcing Religion Podcast to share her knowledge about Punjabi-Sikh teachings, values, practices, and experiences. This episode is Part One of our conversation.

ABOUT Dr. SODHI:

Pavna K. Sodhi (she/her), EdD, is a registered psychotherapist, author, speaker, and adjunct professor residing in Ontario, Canada. With over 25 years of psychotherapeutic and research experience, Dr. Sodhi has interacted with a multitude of populations in various clinical, academic, and supervisory spaces. Her professional background and personal narrative offer a unique research perspective regarding culturally responsive trauma-informed work, BIPOC (Black, Indigenous, and People of Colour) communities, and immigrant mental health. Her research has been featured in national and international scholarly journals and books. She credits her Punjabi-Sikh upbringing and lived experience for her continued interest in these timely topics. As a productive ally, she takes pride in decentring systemic racism, breaking barriers, and encouraging others to be culturally responsive. Her latest book titled, Trauma-Informed Psychotherapy for BIPOC Communities: Decolonizing Mental Health (Routledge) was launched in June 2024.

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Website: https://www.pavnaksodhi.com/

Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/sunotherapy/

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/pavna-k-sodhi-she-her-67b81615/

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

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Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Unquestionable Calvin - From Religion to Conspiracies to Reality

DIVORCED: Christianity and Conspiracies

My guest today is Calvin Smith, whom you may recognize from his YouTube channel Unquestionable Calvin. Calvin was exposed to both Christianity and supernatural ideas from an early age. Eventually he rejected Christianity but firmly believed multiple conspiracy theories, even attempting to build a career around them. In this episode, Calvin shares his journey from Religion to Conspiracies to Reality.

FIND CALVIN:

TikTok.com/UnquestionableCalvin

Instagram.com/UnquestionableCalvin

YouTube.com/UnquestionableCal

Linktr.ee/CalvinSmith

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Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Tickets are now available for the ONLINE Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening May 24-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support:

https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Tessi Muskrat, M.A. - Free To Explore: Sexuality After Purity Culture

Divorced: Evangelical Purity Culture

A native woman of Cherokee and Irish descent, Tessi Ynada Muskrat holds a master’s degree in counseling psychology and is a doctoral student researcher at the University of Missouri. Co-founder of the international Purity Culture Research Collective (PCRC), Tessi’s research centers the voices of those who have experienced sexual and gender-based trauma in religious contexts. Additionally, Tessi works as a post-traumatic growth coach, companioning those who have experienced religious or purity culture trauma on their journey to health and thriving.

In this conversation, Tessi shares about going from life on a shame-free commune to being deeply indoctrinated by purity culture teachings - and eventually, discovering her own sexuality.

FIND TESSI: https://www.puritycultureoutcomes.com/

FIND JANICE:

  • Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF
  • Tickets are now available for the ONLINE Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening May 24-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/
  • Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6pm Eastern (starting April 17). Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services
  • Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Patti & Nancy, Apostate Sisters - Life After a Doomsday Cult

DIVORCED: Worldwide Church of God

CW: Mature themes

Today I’m excited to interview Patti and Nancy, who recently interviewed me on their popular APOSTATE SISTERS YouTube channel! Patti and Nancy are sisters deconstructing their upbringing in the Worldwide Church of God Christian doomsday cult. The sisters note that the cult stifled their critical thinking and warped their sense of autonomy.

They decided to start their YT channel to unpack the impacts of high-control religion, from bodily autonomy to mental health, and share their healing journey with humor and honesty.

FIND the APOSTATE SISTERS:
YT: https://www.youtube.com/@ApostateSisters
IG: https://www.instagram.com/apostatesisters/
You can find the Apostate Sisters on Instagram, Facebook, TikTok, and BlueSky.

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: www.shamelesssexuality.org

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group happens on Tuesdays at 5 pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Sign up now for Janice's online Divorcing Religion Workshop starting March 2nd: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-syndrome-workshop

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Quantas Ginn, MBA, MS, LMFT-S, CST (he/him) - Sex Therapy for Purity Culture Survivors

My guest today is Quantas Ginn. Quantas is a Marriage and Family Therapy (MFT) professor teaching courses on Human Sexuality and MFT theories. His research interests include interracial relationships, perinatal parenting, and the intersection of religion and sexuality.

Quantas also operates a private practice as a marriage, couples, and family therapist, and also as a Certified sex therapist. He works with individuals and couples on a variety of issues, including communication, conflict management, and sexual intimacy.

I’m delighted that Quantas will also be joining us at the online Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture Conference this May, where he will be talking about “Embracing Your Sexy Self, Literally and Figuratively.”
FIND QUANTAS: https://www.quantasginntherapy.com/
FIND JANICE SELBIE:

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening ONLINE May 24-25, 2025! Get yours now: www.shamelesssexuality.org
Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen on Tuesdays at 5 pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6 pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services
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Dr. Kayden Vargas (they/he) - From Conservative Christian to Nonbinary Psychologist

TW: Brief references to CSA

Dr. Kayden Vargas (they/he) is a trans nonbinary poet, parent, and psychologist located in the traditional homelands of the Yakama Nation. Their poetry revolves around themes of small-town living, bicultural/bilingual/biracial life, trauma healing, and trans identity. Their clinical specialties include gender affirming healthcare, eating disorders, religious trauma, and queer psychosocial development.

Kayden also works as an Assistant Professor of Psychology at Heritage University, a small not-for-profit university that is both a Hispanic-Serving-Institution and Native American Non-Tribal Serving institution, located in Toppenish, WA.

Dr. Vargas will be joining me at the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture online conference this May, on the topic of: Healing Beyond the Binary: Transgender expansiveness, sexualities, and overcoming religious residue.

FIND Dr. VARGAS: https://www.vccdrkmv.com/

FIND JANICE SELBIE:

  • Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF
  • Tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening ONLINE May 24-25, 2025! Get yours now: www.shamelesssexuality.org
  • Religious Trauma Survivor Support Groups happen on Tuesdays at 5 pm Pacific and Thursdays at 6 pm Eastern. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services
  • Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Glenda Jordan - Powerful Polyamory

DIVORCED: Southern Baptist Christianity

My guest today is a model, artist, and entertainer - and she will be speaking at the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture event in Seattle this May! Glenda Jordan lives in Las Vegas these days but grew up on a farm south of Nashville, Tennessee - where she was indoctrinated into the Southern Baptist faith from birth.

After deconstructing religion in college, Glenda became involved in activism for various causes. Joining the third-wave intersectional feminist movement, Glenda believes that liberation from the patriarchy and the destructive influence of misogynistic faiths are inexorably linked.

Focusing on atheistic feminism and sex positivity, Glenda is an active volunteer with RfR and other non-profit organizations and her local queer kink communities.

FIND GLENDA:

www.glendajordan.net

https://www.instagram.com/calliopehoop/

https://www.facebook.com/glenda.f.jordan

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: www.shamelesssexuality.org

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group happens on Tuesdays at 5 pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Sign up now for Janice's online Divorcing Religion Workshop starting March 2nd: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-syndrome-workshop

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Jeremy de Tolly - Liberate Your Voice

My guest today is rock and roll musician, and heart-centered communication coach, Jeremy de Tolly. Jeremy works with those who have deeply shut-down voices, whose voices often became blocked starting in their childhoods. He understands the significance that parenting, school, and culture can have on our voices, and that, to return a voice to health, we need to address the expression aspects of these issues specifically.

This led Jeremy to develop the Radiant Voices material and methodologies that he teaches now, both as a private vocal transformation coach and in his signature course, Awaken Your Radiant Voice. The focus of Jeremy’s work is to empower clients to go from not trusting their voice to feeling safe and confident about expressing their magic in the world.

FIND JEREMY:

www.jeremydetolly.com

instagram.com/jeremydetolly

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: www.shamelesssexuality.org

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group happens on Tuesdays at 5 pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Sign up now for Janice's online Divorcing Religion Workshop starting March 2nd: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-syndrome-workshop

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Lauren Elise Rogers - Sex Ed for You!

DIVORCED: Fundamentalist Christianity

CW: Frank discussions of s3x

Lauren Elise Rogers is a Certified Holistic Sexuality Educator and Embodied Intimacy & Relationship Coach. She is the founder of Sex Ed for You, where she provides clear, compassionate, and comprehensive guidance on intimacy, relationships, and sexual health.

After being raised in a high-control religion and getting married at 21, Lauren fought her way out to become the person she needed most. Her desire to understand her relational missteps – like her decade-long marriage to her daughter's gay father – led her to become a Certified Holistic Sexuality Educator.

In this episode, Lauren shares her journey and how she uses what she’s learned to help others navigate complex topics like long-term partnerships, consensual non-monogamy, life transitions, purity culture, and LGBTQIA+ issues.

FIND LAUREN

Website: www.sexedforyou.com

Youtube: https://www.youtube.com/@sexedforyou

Instagram:https://www.instagram.com/sex_ed_for_you/

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Sign up now for Janice's online Divorcing Religion Workshop starting March 2nd: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-syndrome-workshop

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Dr. Josie McSkimming - Gutsy Girls

DIVORCED: Christianity

Today’s guest is Dr. Josie McSkimming, who joins us from Australia. She has previously been a guest on the Divorcing Religion Podcast and was also a speaker at CORT2023.

Dr. McSkimming is a clinical social worker with more than 35 years experience – and personal experience with religious trauma. When I learned that she’d published a book about her life, I wanted to read it right away. Her book is called GUTSY GIRLS: Love, Poetry, and Sisterhood.

Josie grew up in the shadow of her oldest sister Dorothy, who was one of Australia’s most charismatic and courageous literary figures. Josie watched Dot become an award-winning iconic poet, but theirs was a family of complex dynamics.

In today’s episode we discuss life with a volatile parent, sibling rivalry, codependence, seeking escape from family problems, and the grief and loss that accompany religious trauma.

FIND Dr. McSKIMMING:

https://www.uqp.com.au/books/gutsy-girls (also available at Amazon.com)

https://mcskimming.com.au/

FIND JANICE SELBIE:

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Registration is now open for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get your ticket now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Syndrome Support Group happens on Tuesdays at 5 pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Sign up now for Janice's online Divorcing Religion Workshop starting March 2nd: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-syndrome-workshop

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Hip-Hop Artist Seven J - Betrayed by Christianity

DIVORCED: Christianity

TW: Discussion of suicidal ideation

Raised in the heart of Jacksonville, FL, amidst the grit and hustle of the city's most notorious zip code, Seven J emerged as a powerhouse in the world of hip-hop. His music is a testament to his roots, blending raw, lyrical prowess with harmonious melodies that captivate listeners and transport them to another world.

With a resume that boasts performances in iconic venues from Los Angeles to New York, Seven J has left his mark on stages worldwide. From the legendary Apollo Theater to the vibrant streets of Jamaica, his electrifying presence has enraptured audiences and earned him acclaim at every turn.

Seven was a deeply trusting child, making him vulnerable to the promises of Christianity. His musical talent and compassion for others set him apart as a believer– but the racism he experienced INSIDE the Church as an employee was the spark needed to truly examine the faith he’d devoted his entire life to.

While Divorcing Christianity has been disorienting for Seven, making music has been a powerful part of his recovery. He holds nothing back on his album, Sunday Mourning, with songs like If Your God is So Good, BulletZ, and I Lost Everything. His latest album “I Am Seven J” has songs like The Truman Show, Never Been There, and 5 Percent. If, like Seven, you’ve lost your once-cherished faith, he has words of truth you will relate to.

FIND SEVEN J on all streaming platforms.

https://sevenjsjm.bandcamp.com/track/sundaymourning

https://music.apple.com/us/album/sunday-mourning/1563007215

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Survivor Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Subscribe to the audio-only version here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-podcast

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Emily Hedrick - Resiliency in Tough Times

DIVORCED: Mennonite Evangelicalism

Emily Hedrick is a resilience coach specializing in religious trauma and compassion fatigue. A former Mennonite pastor, she holds an M.Div., is an ICF-accredited coach, and is a certified Forward-Facing (R) coach. In addition to being a former guest on the Divorcing Religion Podcast, Emily was a powerful speaker at CORT2022.

How to Treat Your Body Like a Sacred Text is Emily's most recent book. Her expertise in trauma recovery, body-based practices, and navigating the impact of toxic religion equips her to empower readers to live beyond burnout and embrace a more meaningful life. In this episode, we discuss how to recognize trauma in our bodies - and what to do about it.

FIND EMILY:

Website: https://emilyhedrickcoachingandconsulting.com/

Socials: @emilyhedrickcc

FIND JANICE SELBIE:

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Early Bird tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Syndrome Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Sign up now for Janice's online Divorcing Religion Workshop starting March 2nd: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-syndrome-workshop

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Ann Russo, LCSW - Sexuality & Religious Trauma

DIVORCED: Fundamentalist Christianity

My guest today is Licensed Clinical Social Worker ANN RUSSO.

As the founder and director of AMR Therapy, Ann is a mental health advocate, educator, and thought leader specializing in addressing complex and often stigmatized topics such as religious trauma, sexual empowerment, ethical non-monogamy, queer identity, and inclusivity in mental health.

Ann knows that understanding the impact of religious trauma on identity, relationships, and mental health is essential to healing religious trauma.

To that end, she has developed what she calls “the Religious Trauma Treatment Model (RTTM)” to help clients heal from the lasting impact of religious trauma and shame around their sexuality or navigate any societal stigma related to queer identity or non-traditional relationships.

FIND ANN:

Ann's website: https://www.annrusso.org/

AMR Therapy: https://www.amrtherapy.com/

Janice's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in

USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Early Bird tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Syndrome Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Sign up now for the online Divorcing Religion Workshop starting March 2nd: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-syndrome-workshop

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Janice Formichella - Estranged

DIVORCED: Mormonism

TW: References to abuse

Janice Formichella is a breakup coach and the host of the podcasts Sex and the Solo Girl and Breakups, Broken Hearts, and Moving On.

She is passionate about helping people from all backgrounds to beat their breakup, overcome loneliness, and make the end of a relationship the start of a powerful new beginning.

Janice is also a survivor of domestic violence, an ex-Mormon, and an advocate for those choosing family distancing or estrangement.

FIND JANICE FORMICHELLA: IG https://www.instagram.com/janiceformichella/

Website: https://janiceformichella.com/

FIND JANICE SELBIE:

Janice Selbie's Best-selling book Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in the USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Early Bird tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Religious Trauma Syndrome Support Group is happening on Tuesdays at 5pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Sign up now for Janice's online Divorcing Religion Workshop starting March 2nd: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/religious-trauma-syndrome-workshop

Support this channel by becoming a Member of the Divorcing Religion YouTube channel! When you support this channel by joining our YouTube membership (starting as low as $3/month) you'll get early access to all of our new content, access to badges and special chat emojis, and more. Every dollar helps, so sign up to be a member today by clicking "Join" under the video.

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Beth Granger - Leaving the Cult Was Only Half the Battle

DIVORCED: Anglican Cult

Warning: This episode may be triggering for those who experienced abuse in childhood and adolescence.

Beth Granger was the first staff-child born at Grenville Christian College, an elite private boarding school in Canada that was actually a cult - from which she did not escape until her 30s.

Despite her cult leaders’ predictions that she would end up on the streets if she left, Beth went on to earn her Bachelor of Education at Queen’s University, become a very successful teacher, marry a police officer, and become a mother of two. She also helped spearhead a 16-year landmark class action lawsuit against her abusers.

Recovering from C-PTSD, benzo withdrawal, and a lifelong eating disorder from her decades in the cult, Beth is now dedicated to shedding light on the long-term impact of trauma inflicted by weaponized religion. Born and Razed: Surviving the Cult was Only Half the Battle is her first book.

In this episode, Beth shares her experiences as a cult survivor and some of the mistakes she hopes other survivors won’t make.
FIND BETH
Beth’s Website
Universal Amazon Link for “Born and Razed”

Janice's Amazon Best-Seller Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in

USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Early Bird tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Purity Culture Survivor Support Group is happening on Thursdays at 5pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Support this channel by becoming a Member of the Divorcing Religion YouTube channel! When you support this channel by joining our YouTube membership (starting as low as $3/month) you'll get early access to all of our new content, access to badges and special chat emojis, and more. Every dollar helps, so sign up to be a member today by clicking "Join" under the video.

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Marla Taviano - From Missionary to Heretic

DIVORCED: Christian Fundamentalism

Author Marla Taviano knows what it's like to lose it all. In this poignant and humorous conversation, she shares about her missionary husband's infidelity while in the field, the loss of her marriage, and relinquishing some cherished beliefs. She also discusses the power of writing as a force for healing.

FIND MARLA:
IG: https://instagram.com/marlataviano
Substack: https://marlataviano.substack.com
Website: https://marlataviano.com

Janice's Amazon Best-Seller Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in

USA https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DP78TZZF and CANADA https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B0DP78TZZF

Early Bird tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Purity Culture Survivor Support Group is happening on Thursdays at 5pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Luis Cornejo - Born this way!

DIVORCED: Chrisitan Fundamentalism

My guest today is Luis Cornejo: A Licensed Marriage & Family Therapist, Certified Sex Therapist, and the founder of Queer Magic Entertainment LLC. He also hosts the Queer Magic Podcast.

A proud first-generation Guatemalan and Mexican American, Luis is passionate about empowering the LGBTQ+ and BIPOC communities through his work in mental health, fashion, and self-expression.

As a speaker, model, and advocate, he uses his platforms to challenge oppressive systems, celebrate diverse identities, and inspire others to embrace their authentic selves.

Today, Luis shares some of the challenges of growing up queer in a fundamentalist family.
FIND LUIS
Instagram: @luis_thee_lmft
Websites: www.luis-cornejo.com
www.psychosocialtherapy.com
and https://psychosocial.media/
Queer Magic Podcast: https://www.luis-cornejo.com/queermagicpodcast

Janice's Amazon Best-Seller Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in

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Early Bird tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Purity Culture Survivor Support Group is happening on Thursdays at 5pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Jamin Coller - Almost A Cult

TW: Mentions of suicidality

My guest today is Jamin Coller – and if you got Rapture Anxiety after watching the 1970s Christian cult movie A Thief in the Night, you’ve already met Jamin’s dad! After th e movie, his dad started a fundamentalist church. A seminary graduate, pastor’s kid, and true believer, Jamin spent his first 40 years as a Bible scholar, theologian, worship pastor, national children’s speaker, and Christian educator. But the inconsistencies were too much.

In this episode, Jamin shares about growing up with his controlling, fundamentalist pastor for a father. Upon leaving his dad's church, Jamin was shunned and experienced a smear campaign launched by his father. Since leaving, Jamin has written two books and an autobiographical website with a timeline of his experiences.
FIND JAMIN
Dear Evangelicals: The Real Reasons People Are Exiting Church book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0DPCPPLH5 and book trailer: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3S90j6ql1QE
If I’m Really Honest – The Transparent Thought Life of a Reluctant Deconstructionist book: https://www.amazon.com/Really-Honest-Transparent-Reluctant-Deconstructionist-ebook/dp/B0CW1FQ5TR and book trailer https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f9cVM55pzZ4
Jamin's autobiographical site: https://AlmostACult.com
Jamin's community group aspirations are here: https://PersonalExplorationSpace.com

Janice's Amazon Best-Seller Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in

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Early Bird tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Purity Culture Survivor Support Group is happening on Thursdays at 5pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

Need help on your journey of healing from Religious Trauma? Book a free 20-minute consultation with Janice here: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Strong Women in Secular Spaces: Annie Laurie Gaylor - Religion is Killing American Women

Annie Laurie Gaylor is co-founder and co-president of FFRF – the Freedom from Religion Foundation.
In addition to being a long-time women's rights activist, Annie Laurie is an accomplished author.
Her book, Woe to the Women: The Bible Tells Me So, was first published by FFRF in 1981, and is in its 4th printing.

In 1988, FFRF published her second book Betrayal of Trust: Clergy Abuse of Children, the first book documenting widespread sexual abuse by clergy.
Her 1997 anthology, Women Without Superstition: 'No Gods, No Masters,’ is the first collection of the writings of historic and contemporary women freethinkers.

Today, we discuss how religious beliefs are strangling the USA and harming women - and what we can do about it. If you care about the rights of women and non-christians in America, please become a member of FFRF today.

RESOURCES:
https://ffrf.org/
The FFRF Action Fund, the c4 lobbying group, is: ffrfaction.org

Janice's Amazon Best-Seller Divorcing Religion: A Memoir and Survival Handbook is now available in

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Early Bird tickets are now available for the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, happening LIVE in Seattle May 23-25, 2025! Get yours now: https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

Purity Culture Survivor Support Group is happening on Thursdays at 5pm Pacific. Don’t miss this opportunity to connect with others for healing and support: https://www.divorcing-religion.com/services

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Malkie Schwartz - From Fundy to Freedom Fighter
Divorced: Ultra-orthodox Judaism

In her early 20s, Malkie Schwartz chose to leave her ultra-orthodox Jewish community. Within 3 years, she founded Footsteps, the first organization in North America to help people who wish to leave the ultra-Orthodox Jewish community and live in mainstream society. Footsteps gained notoriety in 2017, with the release of the Netflix documentary “One of Us.” To date, Footsteps has served over 1300 individuals.

Malkie is also co-founder and board member of the Rights and Religions Forum. In 2023, the Rights and Religions Forum (RARF) launched the Borgenicht Fellowship Program for Community Leaders. This first-of-its-kind program connects a diverse cohort of leaders who are challenging religious oppression and supporting the ability of individuals raised in insular religious groups to make personal choices and lead lives that reflect their personal values and beliefs.

I met Malkie when a Footsteps representative reached out to me in 2021 interested in sending a Footsteps contingent to the inaugural Conference on Religious Trauma (CORT), and today I am proud to be a Borgenicht Fellow.

In this episode, Malkie shares about leaving her insular community, why she started Footsteps, and the importance of groups like RARF, who rely on generous donations to provide support for others who are Divorcing Religion.

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
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https://www.footstepsorg.org/
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Strong Women in Secular Spaces: Carol Merchasin - Suing Predatory Spiritual Leaders

Carol Merchasin is an attorney who leads a practice group litigating sexual misconduct in religious, faith-based and spiritual communities at McAllister Olivarius. She is an experienced investigator who has conducted dozens of workplace investigations, including those involving sensitive allegations made against top level executives.

Carol’s current work shines a light on the failures of many spiritual centers and retreats, and the abuse of power by cult leaders.

In this episode, Carol and I discuss cults, litigating spiritual leaders, and the need to educate judges and jurors about coercive control. We also mention Dr. Steven Hassan's work, which you can find here:

https://freedomofmind.com/

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cmerchasin@mcolaw.com

Website: https://mcolaw.com/team/carol-merchasin/

Instagram: @mcallisterolivarius (https://www.instagram.com/mcallisterolivarius/)

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Strong Women in Secular Spaces: Mandisa Thomas - WTF, USA?!

My guest today is activist and speaker Mandisa Thomas. Although never formally indoctrinated into belief, Mandisa was heavily exposed to Christianity, Black Nationalism, and Islam.

In 2011, Mandisa founded Black Nonbelievers, Inc., as a non-profit, secular organization. Its goals include eliminating stigma, increasing visibility, and providing support and networking opportunities around non-belief in the African-American community. In addition to founding Black Nonbelievers, Mandisa is also the president.

Today, Mandisa shares how Caucasians can support their BIPOC neighbors in light of the upcoming challenges and threats posed by a Republican government.

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Lonnie Mann - Gaytheist
Divorced: Orthodox Judaism

Lonnie Mann grew up Orthodox Jewish in New York. It's a strict, difficult lifestyle for anyone; but Lonnie found additional challenges growing up as he realized he was gay, and struggled to reconcile his faith and sexuality. Ultimately, Lonnie managed to leave the community. Eventually, he wrote a graphic novel about his experiences, with his partner Ryan Gatts helping provide artwork.

Lonnie’s book is called Gaytheist: Coming Out of My Orthodox Childhood.
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Strong Women in Secular Spaces: Dr. Marlene Winell - Christianity Run Amok

DIVORCED: Christianity

Dr. Marlene Winell is a licensed psychologist, educator, and writer. Her background includes 30 years of experience in human services, in both community and academic settings. She holds a doctorate in Human Development and Family Studies from Pennsylvania State University and is the author of Leaving the Fold: A guide for former fundamentalists and others leaving their religion.

Dr. Winell directs the organization Journey Free, which offers services for recovery from harmful religion. In 2011, she named "Religious Trauma Syndrome." Marlene is also a filmmaker, photographer, mother, and grandmother.

Today, we explore institutionalized religionism in the USA, as well as ways in which Trump represents the worst elements of Christianity.

Below are Dr. Winell's articles referenced in our conversation:

  • Trump's Worldview Mirrors the Most Archaic and Apocalyptic of Christian Beliefs

https://www.alternet.org/2016/09/trumps-worldview-mirrors-most-archaic-and-apocalyptic-christian-beliefs

  • It's Not Just Personal: The Collective Trauma of Religion

https://americanhumanist.org/what-we-do/publications/eph/journals/volume29/winell/

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www.marlenewinell.net

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Strong Women in Secular Spaces: Yasmine Mohammed - Fighting Religious Tyranny

DIVORCED: Islam

CW: Violence and SA briefly mentioned

I am honored today to speak today with human rights activist Yasmine Mohammed, who is founder and president of Free Hearts Free Minds, and the author of the book Unveiled: How the West Empowers Radical Muslims.

From elevating the voices of marginalized freethinkers on her podcast, to creating a global network of allies across religious and political divides through co-founding and co-directing the CLARITy Coalition, Yasmine is one of the most prominent and vocal figures supporting persecuted freethinkers across the globe.

Today, Yasmine and I discuss the urgent need to support freethinkers trying to survive in theocratic nations.

FIND YASMINE:

Yasmine Mohammed Community

Free Hearts Free Minds

Yasmine Mohammad Podcast

Unveiled: How the West Empowers Radical Muslims

Clarity Coalition

Yasmine Mohammed Instagram

Yasmine Mohammed Twitter

Yasmine Mohammed Facebook

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Strong Women in Secular Spaces: Alice Greczyn

WELCOME to Strong Women in Secular Spaces, a special Divorcing Religion podcast series highlighting women's courage, creativity, resilience, and strength.

Alice Greczyn is an actress, author, and activist. Raised in a fundamentalist Christian home, Alice's book Wayward: A Memoir of Spiritual Warfare and Sexual Purity resonates especially with those who are recovering from religious trauma and purity culture indoctrination. In reclaiming her own bodily autonomy, Alice has embraced modeling, pole dancing, and producing adult content for Playboy and OnlyFans, in addition to acting and writing.

Don't miss our thoughtful conversation about religion, politics, women's rights, and interacting with people from every sphere - especially, those with whom we disagree.

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Ashlen Hilliard, MSc - Cult Intervention Specialist
DIVORCED: Church of Christ

TW: Cults, trafficking, and one mention of SA

Ashlen Hilliard (she/her), MSc, is a Cult Intervention Specialist and the founder of People Leave Cults. She has been featured on NewsNation, HuffPost, BET+, and more. As a Cult Intervention Specialist, Ashlen collaborates with a team of experts to offer guidance and support to families with loved ones entangled in cult-like groups or relationships.

In this episode, Ashlen discusses growing up in and leaving the Church of Christ, her work with individuals seeking to leave polygamist communities in the Western United States, her volunteer work with S.A.F.E., and the consulting work she now does with People Leave Cults.

FIND ASHLEN:

https://www.peopleleavecults.com/

https://www.safeportland.org/

https://www.beyondthefencemovie.com/

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Jason Pollick - Confessions of a Former Priest

Divorced: Christianity

Jason was an atheist as a teenager, so he was as surprised as anyone when he had a spiritual experience that told him to become a priest. He tried to avoid this call, but eventually became an Anglican priest, a vocation he lived for 12 years.

After being diagnosed with PTSD in 2019 because of his experiences in the church, he spent 2 years on disability for mental health reasons. During that time, he began to question his faith and discovered he could no longer support the idea of a loving god who guided the course of history. Jason regained his freedom of thought, embraced his atheism and relinquished his clerical orders.

Jason is now a registered social worker in Ontario. He works in private practice as a therapist, offering virtual sessions throughout Ontario, and in-person session in downtown Ottawa. Jason still describes himself as spiritual, and works mainly with people from across the spectrum of religious and non-religious spiritual expression.

FIND JASON: www.JasonPollick.com

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David Fitzgerald - Jesus Isn’t Real
Divorced: Southern Baptist Christianity

Author David Fitzgerald is an award-winning writer, historical researcher, and atheist activist who lectures internationally at universities and secular events, and is a frequent guest on many podcasts.

David has been a passionate advocate for atheism, civil rights, counter-apologetics, and secular humanism his entire adult life. He is best known for his books Nailed, and The Complete Heretic's Guide to Western Religion, including Jesus: Mything in Action. David’s latest book is PLAYING GOD: An Evolutionary History of World Religion, Volumes 1-3.

In this episode, David shares that what we formerly knew about the origins and founders of world religions has been turned on its head – and that Jesus, Moses, Mohammed, and Buddha never existed in the first place!
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Email: everybodylovesdave@gmail.com (Order your signed copy of David’s books here)
Website: http://davidfitzgerald.org/

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Eric Skwarczynski - Preacher Boys: Exposing the IFB
DIVORCED: Independent Fundamental Baptist, Christianity

CW: Child abuse

Eric Skwarczynski is an ex-fundamentalist on a mission to shed light on the darker sides of high-control religious environments. As the host of the Preacher Boys podcast, he interviews survivors, experts, and authors on topics such as trauma recovery, mental health, power dynamics, fundamentalist thinking, and relationships.

Today Eric shares about his experiences growing up in an IFB family and school, including why he left the IFB – and eventually divorced religion altogether. He also shares some of the pushback he receives for his work as a podcast host exposing IFB abuse.

Eric's work has been featured in the Peacock documentary Shadowland and news outlets like CBC. He also appeared in the four-part documentary series Let Us Prey: A Ministry of Scandals, now streaming on Max.
FIND ERIC: https://www.preacherboyspodcast.com/

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Richard A. Kiers - Christian Cult Survivor
Divorced: Fundamentalist Christianity

CW: Brief mention of CSA and suicidality

My guest today is author and cult survivor Richard A. Kiers. Richard was born in Canada to Dutch parents. When he was 10, Richard’s parents joined a Group called "The Move" and relocated their family to a commune in British Columbia in 1972.

It turned out that The Move was a cult, led by Sam Fife, which at one time had over 40,000 members. Richard wrote a book about his cult experiences called Swindled by Faith: A Time for Reconciliation. He also has a private FB group for cult survivors, called Silent Voices, and he is working on a podcast by the same name.

In Richard’s own words: I lived there for only a few short years when I realized I had to leave or die. I have spent the rest of my life learning to be me.
FIND RICHARD
https://www.facebook.com/rkiers
Richard’s book: https://www.amazon.ca/Swindled-Faith-Reconciliation-Richard-Kiers/dp/0228815088

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Phil Zuckerman - Exploring Secularism

Phil Zuckerman is a sociology and secular studies professor at Pitzer College in Claremont, California.
Phil founded the first Secular Studies department in the United States in 2011. Secular Studies is an interdisciplinary program focusing on manifestations of the secular in societies and cultures, past and present.

Today Phil shares his own experiences with secularism. We also discuss differences between American, French, and Scandinavian concepts of secular and religious life, and what it means to be a moral person.

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Elayna Love - From Sex Toxic to Sex Positive

DIVORCED: Mormonism

CW: DV, Sexuality

Elayna Love left a sex-toxic environment for a sex positive one. She is an ex-Mormon turned stripper, phone sex operator, and OnlyFans creator. Elayna coaches her clients on releasing religious shame, uncovering their desires, and understanding boundaries and consent.

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Sacha Mardou - Healing after the JWs

DIVORCED: Jehovah's Witnesses

Sacha Mardou is a British cartoonist and long-form graphic novelist who makes a home in St Louis, Missouri with her husband and teenage daughter. She began making comics after getting her BA in English Literature from the University of Wales in 1998. Working in both fiction and autobiography, Mardou’s comics explore interior experiences such as mental illness, emotional dynamics within families, her religious upbringing in the Jehovah's Witnesses and healing from trauma through therapy. Her new book is called 'Past Tense: Facing Family Secrets and Finding Myself in Therapy' is available now wherever books are sold.

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Betsy Nuismer - Relationships

DIVORCED: Christian fundamentalism

BETSY NUISMER - MA, LPC, Certified EFT Therapist, attained her Masters degree in 2014 and became a marriage therapy specialist. She and her husband, Scott, own a private practice called Hope Heals Counseling. They also run a nonprofit called West Michigan Marriage Center. Together, they aim to help those who lack the access or ability to attend marriage therapy.

I love this statement from Betsy: One of the best parts of my work is when I get to see couples move from the pain of disconnection into the feeling of trust, hope and love - with their most significant person.

In this episode, Betsy shares the pain of questioning and releasing cherished beliefs and why authenticity is so important in relationships.

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Information about EFT:
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Lia Dugal - Calvary Chapel Survivor
Divorced: Fundamentalist Christianity

CW: Suicidality, abuse.

My guest today is actress and entrepreneur Lia Dugal. Lia’s experiences with religious trauma occurred while she attended Calvary Chapel in the USA.

In her continued efforts to help unwind the effects of trauma, she has created a short film called “I Am Fine,” inspired by the suicide of a queer friend who was shamed by Christian beliefs. By sharing her story, Lia hopes to shed light on practices that have wounded many and been hidden for too long.

In this episode, Lia provides some background information on Calvary Chapel, as well as sharing her own experiences and the motivation behind her film.

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Mick Larson - WWJD on Election Day
Divorced: Christianity

CW: Politics, reproductive rights

Mick Larson is a documentary film producer and director. His work is focused on social justice, politics, religion & evolutionary psychology.

Today we discuss three of Mick’s documentaries:

What Would Jesus Do On Election Day?" The series is currently available at www.wwjd.vote and will soon be available on Amazon and Apple streaming platforms. Given the upcoming election in the USA, I recommend watching this series immediately and sharing it with the conservative Christians in your life.

"America's Abortion Fetish: Conservatives Need to Control Women and Uphold Patriarchy." This documentary examines conservatives’ use of the fetus as a trojan horse to control women’s sexuality and reproductive rights. The trailer can be viewed at www.abortionfetish.com

"Alpha God," based on the book "Alpha God" by Dr. Hector Garcia, exploring why God is male and the historical ramifications of this creator male God. You can watch the trailer at www.alphagod.world

Websites
www.micklarson.org
www.wwjd.vote
www.abortionfetish.com
www.alphagod.world
(https://youtu.be/Wqe69IqWoBE)
https://open.spotify.com/show/63ipaIalDU8qImWImZY15q?si=c4ab404447ae4e40

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Andreya Jones, Ph.D., LCSW, CST - From MK to Sex Therapist
Divorced: Fundamentalist Christianity

CW: CSA, sexuality, and Purity Culture

Andreya grew up in a conservative, evangelical community and was an MK in Papua New Guinea and Senegal, West Africa. Andreya has a doctorate in clinical sexology, is a licensed clinical social worker, and is an AASECT-certified sex therapist who owns a private practice in Pennsylvania.

In the process of deconstructing from Christian evangelicalism and becoming the person she was meant to be, Andreya decided to devote her time and energy to helping other women who have had similar experiences.

Passionate about helping clients navigate their relationships, sexuality, and pleasure, Andreya has recently completed a book about purity culture and female sexuality, written for therapists who work with women from this specific population.

Andreya has the privilege of living with and loving her two rambunctious kids, bulldog, and wife.
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Amie Myrick - Media & Self-care
Divorced: Organized religion

TW: References to sexual abuse by religious and institutional authorities

Amie Myrick is a Maryland licensed clinical professional counselor. She graduated with her master’s degree in counseling from Johns Hopkins University. She is the owner of New Phase Counseling and Consulting, LLC, and a lead analyst at National Association for County and City Health Officials (NACCHO) where she oversees CDC-funded projects aimed at increasing community’s capacity to reduce and prevent adverse childhood experiences (ACEs) and related outcomes.

Today we are discussing the resource Amie helped create, called A Survivor Guide to Mastering Media: Understanding Reactions & Caring for Self.

Amie is an ACE Interface Master Presenter in the state of Maryland and a national Healthy Outcomes from Positive Experiences (HOPE) facilitator and technical assistance provider. She has been invited to train community members and professionals on trauma-related topics throughout the country and has presented at local, national, and international conferences for nearly years on topics related to trauma and advocacy.

In addition to her clinical and training work, Amie is a research and training consultant for groups interested in infusing trauma-informed approaches into their work, building parenting and therapist-based skills, and learning more about comprehensive treatment for populations affected by trauma. She has unique clinical training in complex trauma, expertise in trauma-informed practices, policies, and treatment, and training in virtual, in-person, and hybrid facilitation, training methods, and implementation practices.

RESOURCES:

The Survivor Guide can be found here: changetheconversation.org

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Trisha Wilkerson - Religion & Diet Culture
DIVORCED: Mars Hill Evangelicalism

As a certified Health and Nutrition Coach and published author, Trisha is dedicated to assisting individuals in improving their connections with food, their bodies, and themselves. By fostering compassionate curiosity and advocating an anti-diet philosophy, she creates a safe environment for clients to shift their anxieties concerning food, fitness, and other healthy practices towards inner peace.

Trisha is currently working on her second book titled "Already Good: How Religion and Diet Culture Exploit Our Human Quest for Meaning and Belonging."

Having spent 20 years in Evangelical Ministry and as a Pastor’s Wife, she left the Church a decade ago and has since been gradually shedding most of the beliefs she once espoused and taught.
Trisha is co-founder of The Aftermath Agency-- a collaborative private practice centering whole health care in Edmonds, WA. She lives with her husband, Mike and 4 young adult children.

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Teddy Hose - Gun Worship in the Unification Church
DIVORCED: Unification Church (the Moonies)

Teddy Hose is an artist, writer, and public figure on the topic of cults, after growing up in the Unification Church, or “Moonies,” of the late Sun Myung Moon.

He has appeared on Netflix’s Explained: Cults episode and How to Become a Cult Leader, as well as A&E’s Cults and Extreme Belief, which featured the cult’s splinter group (Rod of Iron Ministries) who worship with AR-15s.

With Teddy’s parents being early, respected members of the Unification Church, his family lived close to the Moon family estate in Tarrytown, NY.

Teddy often highlights how the Moons pay far right political figures like the Trumps to participate in their events; and the cult’s founding of The Washington Times, which is also behind OAN, or One America News network.

Teddy now lives in Brooklyn where he works in video and motion graphics, while making informative social media videos about cults, in addition to his own multimedia art.

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TikTok: @2dhose
Instagram, X, Bluesky: @teddyhose
Facebook: @teddyhoseworks
Website: teddyhose.com

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Michelle Fischler, a trailblazer in the realm of sex therapy, is renowned for her innovative approach to fostering sexual wellness and education. As a Registered Social Worker/Psychotherapist and ASTO Certified Sex Therapist, she seamlessly blends her expertise with her role as a dynamic therapist, interviewer, and speaker. A highlight of her work is her biweekly podcast, GETSOME.

Through her virtual sex therapy practice and the creation of the Unlearning Sexual Shame sex education module, Michelle provides a platform that encourages transformative conversations about sex, sexuality, gender, and pleasure. Her aim is to dispel the shadows of shame and promote a more inclusive and enlightened perspective on sexual health.

Discover more about Michelle and her work by visiting GETSOME.ca, and stay connected by following her on Instagram @getsome_podcast.

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Korrenne Jensen - Intersection of ADHD and Religious Trauma

Korrenne (Kory) Jensen is a Registered Psychotherapist in Ontario. Areas that she works in include religious trauma, ADHD, and grief. She also works with populations that include front of line healthcare workers, first responders, and indigenous individuals.

Kory is the clinical director of Afterglow Psychotherapy and additionally enjoys growing on social media with a page called unconditionally.healing that explores mental health with humor and vulnerability.

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@afterglow.psychotherapy (instagram & facebook)
@unconditonally.healing (instagram & tiktok)

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Tia Levings - A Well-Trained Wife
Divorced: Christian fundamentalism

CW: Brief reference to CSA

My guest today is author Tia Levings, who describes herself as “an author exploring anti-fundamentalism after church-sanctioned domestic abuse in high-control religion.” Tia appeared in Shiny Happy People on Amazon Prime, and her memoir, A Well-Trained Wife: My Escape from Christian Patriarchy, is coming out with St. Martin’s Press in 2024.

In our conversation today, Tia and I discuss various aspects of Christian fundamentalism and how it negatively impacts women, especially.

Tia Levings writes about the realities in Christian fundamentalism, evangelical patriarchy, and religious trauma. She is also a podcaster, speaker, and content strategist. She’s been quoted in Salon, the Huffington Post, and Newsweek, and appeared in the hit Amazon docu-series, Shiny Happy People. Based in Jacksonville, Florida she is mom to four incredible adults and likes to travel, hike, paint, and daydream. Find her on social media @TiaLevingsWriter. Her memoir, A Well-Trained Wife, releases with St. Martin’s Press on August 6th, 2024.

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https://tialevings.com/
TikTok @tialevingswriter
https://tialevings.substack.com/

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Britt Hartley - No Nonsense Spirituality
Divorced: Mormonism

My guest today is author, nihilism survivor, and atheist spiritual advisor Britt Hartley. Britt has over 287,000 followers on TikTok, and I think after our chat today that you will want to follow her, too!

Britt is a former Mormon, current atheist, whose journey away from religion took her to some dark places. Today we discuss freedom, nihilism, humanism, and meaning in life.

BRITT'S BOOK:
No Nonsense Spirituality: All the Tools, No Faith Required

FIND BRITT:
https://nononsensespirituality.com/
https://www.instagram.com/nononsensespirituality/
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Anke Richter - DECULT

TW: References to CSA, sex trafficking, suicide

My guest today is international journalist and author Anke Richter, who is based in Christchurch, New Zealand.

In 2022, Harper-Collins published Anke’s important and bestselling book called CULT TRIP: Inside the World of Coercion and Control. According to Anke’s website: She spent over 10 years investigating how and why cults seduce, entrap, and destroy otherwise ordinary people, asking what the line is between tribe and cult; participant and perpetrator; seduction and sexual abuse.

In addition to being a journalist and bestselling author, Anke is a member and co-founder of F.A.C.T. Aotearoa, which stands for Fight Against Conspiracy Theories.

Anke is also the convenor and director of DECULT, the first cult awareness conference in New Zealand (see link below).

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https://decult.net/
https://factaotearoa.nz/

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Wilbur Turner - Two-by-Two Survivor

Today’s guest is Wilbur Turner (he/him), visionary founder and president of Advocacy Canada. He is located on the unceded ancestral lands of the Syilx people in Kelowna, BC, Canada.

A well-regarded speaker and workshop facilitator, Wilbur utilizes personal stories and humour to engage, educate, and uplift audiences. Wilbur is well known for his advocacy work for the 2SLGBTQIA+ community.

Today, Wilbur will also be sharing about his experiences growing up in a secretive sect recently gaining notoriety as The Two-by-Twos, who have also been called the No Name Church, The Friends, Cooneyites, and The Truth.

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https://advocacy-canada.lgbt/

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Lyn Smith Gregory - Relative of Joseph Smith

LYN SMITH GREGORY grew up in Utah as one of 9 children in a devout Mormon family. Her great, great uncle was Joseph Smith, founder of the Mormon Church. At 19 years old, Lyn left the Church and moved to New York City, eventually obtaining an MBA at NYU.

In this episode, we explore Lyn’s shocking loss of faith, and whether it is possible to retain family relationships with still-religious relatives.

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Karrine Blouin - ExJW Girl In Shambles
Divorced: Jehovah’s Witnesses

TW: Sexual Abuse

I discovered today’s guest, Karinne Blouin, on Instagram, where her handle is “girl_inshambles.” Her insights and personal snippets about her former life as a Jehovah’s Witness gripped me hard enough to invite her to share her story with us today.

Karinne was born and raised in the Jehovah Witnesses (in Montreal Canada). She's a sexual abuse survivor.

Karinne is currently writing an autobiography about her upbringing, waking up from years of brainwashing and guilt trips, and understanding how to deal with C-PTSD and trauma.

In this episode, Karrine shares about growing up in an abusive, authoritarian Jehovah’s Witness family - and what it took for her to leave.

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https://www.instagram.com/girl_inshambles/

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Meg Applegate - Unsilenced

CW: Kidnapping

At the age of 15, Meg Applegate was abducted by two strangers in the middle of the night from her California home. Eight hours later she found herself at a lockdown treatment facility for 6 months in Boise, ID. After that, she was placed in an additional behavioral modification program in northern Montana for the next 3 years.

Today, Meg will be sharing with us about her work with UNSILENCED, a nonprofit organization serving victims of institutional child abuse – especially those harmed by the TTI, or Troubled Teen Industry.

Meg’s book is titled Becoming UNSILENCED: Surviving and Fighting the Troubled Teen Industry.

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· https://www.unsilenced.org/

· Link for Meg’s book: https://a.co/d/3P5hM37

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Rebekah Monroe - Religious Trauma Research

My guest today is Rebekah J. Monroe, who identifies as a white queer woman with lineage in the Osage and Cherokee Tribes. Rebekah goes by the pronouns are She/Her/They.

Currently, Rebekah is a Clinical Psychology doctoral student, co-founder of the non-profit NARC-RT (which stands for North American Research Collective - Religious Trauma), and Vice Chair on the Reclamation Collective Board of Directors.

Rebekah's research interests include sexuality, sex education, cultural hegemony in institutions, health equity, mental health, yoga therapy, and religious trauma with an intersectional Black feminist lens inspired by scholars like Patricia Hill Collins, Kimberlé Crenshaw, and bell hooks.

Rebekah sees herself as a translational scholar making space in social sciences for people who are looking for navigation in healing from institutional harm and religious trauma. She envisions herself directing a research community center specializing in holistic care after finishing her graduate studies while working as a clinician part-time.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rebekah-joy-monroe/
Co-founder of NARC-RT: www.narc-rt.org
Vice Chair of Reclamation Collective Board of Directors Starting 2024: https://www.reclamationcollective.com/

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Lindsey Doolittle - Recovering from Religion & Suicide Loss

TW: Today we will be discussing issues related to suicide

Lindsey Doolittle was introduced to me as a documentary film maker who recently focussed her lens on Dr. Darrel Ray’s work at Recovering from Religion (see below for more information on this documentary).

In speaking with Lindsey, I learned that she has a powerful story of her own to share. The following excerpt is from her website www.AboveTheRug.com : Lindsey Doolittle is an art educator, children’s author, artist to the Faces After Suicide exhibition, and an Award-Winning independent filmmaker. Her advocacy began shortly after her late husband, Sgt. Brett Doolittle of the Kansas City, Kansas Police Department, died by suicide in 2015.

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Link for RfR documentary Go Fund Me: https://gofund.me/05592f97
Lindsey’s website: https://abovetherug.com/
RfR: www.recoveringfromreligion.org

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Nikole Mitchell - From Pastor to Only Fans Model
Divorced: Evangelical Christianity

CW: Frank discussions about sexuality

Today’s guest has previously appeared on the Dr. Phil Show, Jimmy Kimmel, ABC, CBS – and today she is a guest on the Divorcing Religion Podcast! I’m talking about Pleasure Coach NIKOLE MITCHELL.

Raised in the Evangelical Christian tradition, Nikole understood the role assigned to her within that tradition: A homemaker who was subservient to her husband – and all men - in a monogamous, heterosexual marriage.

Eventually, Nikole embraced a more liberal form of Christianity and even became a pastor. She began letting go of religion while attending seminary, and left her church in 2019, after graduating with her Master's degree.

Today, Nikole Mitchell is a divorced mother of 3, living as a queer woman. Not only does she have a thriving career as an Only Fans creator, but she also empowers other women through her coaching practice.

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Linda Martin - Religious Exemptions are Killing Kids
Divorced: Followers of Christ Cult

CW: Child abuse and death due to faith-based exemptions

Linda Martin was born into the Idaho Followers of Christ sect, leaving the church at age 16. It is estimated that the child mortality rate for the Followers of Christ between 2002 and 2011 was 10 times that of Idaho as a whole.

In 2013, Linda went public about the many religious medical neglect deaths of children in Idaho, and she continues to bring awareness to the religious medical neglect of children.

With the late Rita Swan, Linda helped set up the website idahochildren.org which has links to important articles and information about laws in the United States that allow religious exemptions to medical care for sick children.

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

· www.idahochildren.org

· https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLN4i_tHNkNDBvgHKi_OZyfEL48ZUoEsdl

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Clint Heacock - Is Christianity Killing Democracy?

CW: USA politics & religion

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Mr. Pick Me & The Manhater
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Dr. Danielle Kramer - Taylor Swift and Deep Fake Porn

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Sandy Bigtree & Philip Arnold - The Religious Origins of White Supremacy

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Hannah Abassi - From Christian to Muslim to Secular Humanist, Part 2
Divorced: Islam

In our last episode, we were introduced to Hannah Abassi. Hannah grew up in a Christian home but converted to Islam in her teens due to family influences on her father’s side. In today’s episode, we learn more about what it was like for Hannah to live and study in nations heavily influenced by Islam, what brought her back to the USA, and how she became involved in Humanism.

Eventually, Hannah co-founded An-Nas, an ethics-based community for humanists from Muslim backgrounds dedicated to providing opportunities for personal growth, promoting social justice, and contributing to an inclusive, multicultural humanism through engagement with the arts, sciences, and humanities in intersectional spaces.

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**Hannah Abbasi - From Christian to Muslim to Secular Humanist, Part 1
Divorced: Christianity

PART 1 – FROM CHRISTIAN TO MUSLIM**

My guest today is Hannah Abbasi, a transplant to New York City from Austin, Texas. As an adult, she has also lived in Qom, Beirut, and Cairo. At the University of Texas at Austin, Hannah studied Religious Studies, Middle Eastern Studies, and History with a minor in Arabic Language. She went on to study at Islamic seminaries in Iran and Lebanon and completed her Master’s of Science in Education from the City College of New York in 2018.

Hannah eventually co-founded AN-NAS, an ethics-based community for humanists from Muslim backgrounds. In this episode, Hannah shares about her life from childhood up to college.

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https://www.an-nas.org/

https://rarforum.org/fellows/

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Melanie Trecek-King - Critical Thinking is Power

Divorced: Religious Fundamentalism

Melanie Trecek-King is an Associate Professor of Biology at Massasoit Community College, where she equips students with empowering critical thinking, information literacy, and science literacy skills.

Melanie loves to share her “teach skills, not facts” approach with other science educators and to help organizations meet their goals through better thinking. She is also the Education Director for the Mental Immunity Project and CIRCE (Cognitive Immunology Research Collaborative), which aim to advance and apply the science of mental immunity to inoculate minds against misinformation. In addition to her Bachelor of Science in Biology and Chemistry, and a Master of Arts in Ecology, Ms. Trecek-King is a Fellow of the Committee for Skeptical Inquiry.

Today, Melanie will be speaking with me about fine-tuning our critical thinking skills, including exploring how we form our beliefs.

FIND MELANIE: https://thinkingispower.com/

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Jeff Beaumont - Trafficked by Scientology

Divorced: Scientology

**CW: Trafficking, forced labour, self-harm.

Jeff Beaumont was born into Scientology and educated at the local Scientology school in Vancouver, BC, Canada. At age 14, he was kidnapped and trafficked to the USA to perform labour in the Sea Org branch of Scientology. During that time, Jeff was forced to disconnect from his mother, who was out of Scientology at that point. On returning to Vancouver, he spent about 10 more years on staff at the church of Scientology.**

In 2012, Jeff woke up - and he has been working on his recovery ever since. Recently, he started speaking out against the abuses of Scientology on YouTube and podcasts. His YouTube channel is called PTS for Life.

In this episode, Jeff shares about growing up 2nd Gen and what it’s been like reintegrating into life outside his former high-demand group.

FIND JEFF: www.youtube.com/@ptsforlife

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Matthew Remski - Conspirituality

Divorced: Roman Catholicism

Today’s guest is journalist and author MATTHEW REMSKI. In addition to being the author of 8 books of poetry, fiction, and nonfiction, Matthew is co-host of the wildly popular Conspirituality Podcast. I asked him to join me after hearing his presentation “When Spirituality is a Broken Space,” at the Symposium on Death and Bereavement Studies, hosted by Dr. Terri Daniel. Today, Matthew shares insights into how conspirituality and capitalism hijacked COVID.

RESOURCES MENTIONED

· CONSPIRITUALITY: How New Age Conspiracy Theories Became A Health Threat, by Derek Beres, Matthew Remski, & Julian Walker

· Love, Terror, and Brainwashing, by Alexandra Stein

· Practice and All is Coming: Abuse, Cult Dynamics, and Healing in Yoga and Beyond, by Matthew Remski

· Critical Thinking Cards and posters available here: https://www.schoolofthought.org/projects

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https://www.conspirituality.net/

https://matthewremski.com/wordpress/

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Seth Andrews - Our Lord & Saviour, Taylor Swift
Divorced: Christianity

CW: U.S. politics

Don’t worry, this episode is not ALL about Taytay - but she is a happy part of it.

Today’s guest is Seth Andrews, a former evangelical and Christian broadcaster who now hosts The Thinking Atheist…one of the most popular podcasts and online atheist communities in the world! The Thinking Atheist is not a person. It is an icon encouraging all to reject faith and pursue reason and evidence. Seth has authored five books, including his latest offering, “Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot.” He also hosts a second podcast, "True Stories with Seth Andrews."

In this episode, Seth and I discuss what’s happening in the USA, from atheism to Al Jazeera, with a dash of Taylor Swift thrown in.

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https://www.thethinkingatheist.com/

https://www.truestoriespodcast.com/podcast

https://twitter.com/SethAndrewsTTA

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Dr. Darrel Ray - All About Sex

Divorced: Christianity

CONTENT WARNING: Today I’m speaking with Dr. Darrel Ray all about sex. From Purity Culture to ethical nonmonogamy to sex and aging – we cover it in this episode!

Dr. Darrel Ray is the founder and President of the Board of Directors of Recovering from Religion. He holds a Masters’ Degree in religion, a Bachelor's Degree in Sociology/Anthropology and a Doctorate in Psychology.

In addition to being a psychologist for many decades, Dr. Ray is the author of several books, including “The God Virus - How Religion Infects Our Lives and Culture" and "Sex and God - How Religion Distorts Sexuality".

Darrel has spoken at several of my events, including the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference, when he spoke about The Sex Addiction Panic and Its Religious Roots.

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https://www.seculartherapy.org/

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Erin Harrop - Eating Disorders & Christianity

Divorced: Fundamentalist Christianity

CW: Eating disorders, self-harm, suicidal ideation

Erin Harrop (they/them) is an assistant professor at the Graduate School of Social Work at the University of Denver, where their research centers eating disorders, weight stigma, and weight-inclusive approaches to healthcare. Their clinical practice involves supporting patients in recovery from eating disorders and pediatric mental health.

As a person recovering from an eating disorder and religious fundamentalism, Erin hopes to help others heal their relationships with their bodies and hearts.

In this episode Erin shares her own experiences with fundamentalism, disordered eating, and recovery. If you’ve struggled with loving your body, don’t miss this episode.

https://socialwork.du.edu/about/gssw-directory/erin-nicole-harrop

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Nick Khatiam - Leaving the Jehovah’s Witnesses
Divorced: Jehovah’s Witnesses

CW: CHILD SEXUAL ABUSE

Today I’m speaking with Nick Khatiam, from the NW of England. Nick began his further education in English Literature but really began to focus on academic pursuits with his master's degree, in which he studied psychology.

His research project focused on the experiences of disaffiliates from the Jehovah's Witnesses religion, with plans to extend his research in this area in the future.

Today, Nick shares about his own experiences of leaving a high-control and high-demand religion.

Below are links for Nick’s research project, as well as some videos.
RESOURCES MENTIONED:
https://www.proquest.com/docview/2892644076?sourcetype=Dissertations%20&%20Theses
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SSH5EY-W5oM&ab_channel=TEDxTalks
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6qkSMkiGWdg&ab_channel=TEDxTalks

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Sarah Westbrook MS, LPC, NCC - Trauma Bonded
Divorced: Mormonism/LDS

You never forget your first kiss, your first love…or your first trauma bond. 16-year-old Sarah believed her boyfriend would save her from her dysfunctional home. When her parents discovered that they’d committed the sin of premarital sex, the aftermath left the two teenagers irrevocably bonded in trauma.

In today’s episode, Sarah speaks plainly about her experiences growing up in a dysfunctional Mormon home and the deep scars of Purity Culture indoctrination.

Part memoir, part self-help guide, Trauma Bonded pairs therapist Sarah Westbrook’s journey of recovery with mental health insights for overcoming toxic relationships and finding peace after complex post-traumatic stress disorder.

Sarah Westbrook, MS, LPC, NCC, is the founder of Westbrook Counseling Services and Daisy Girl Communications. As a survivor of chronic trauma and emotional neglect, Sarah understands the work that goes into healing from c-PTSD. Sarah is the host of the Unpacking Mormonism and Other Religious Trauma and Raising Crazy: Growing Up to Show Up podcasts.
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www.daisygirlcommunications.com.

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Ian Bushfield - Humanism in Canada

Today’s show is all about Humanism! Here is the definition of Humanism, from Humanist Canada:
Humanism is a progressive philosophy of life based on a profound respect for human dignity and the conviction that human beings are ultimately accountable to themselves and to society for their actions. It is a secular worldview that affirms our ability and responsibility to lead ethical and meaningful lives.

I’m delighted to welcome Ian Bushfield as my guest today. Ian has been involved in the BC Humanist Association since 2009 - and aside from a brief stint in the UK - he has been the Executive Director of BCHA since 2012. Ian has a background in physics and non-profit management and grew up in Alberta. In 2017, he also joined the BC Civil Liberties Association's Board of Directors.

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https://www.bchumanist.ca/

RESOURCES MENTIONED
https://askuskelowna.ca/
https://humanists.international/
https://www.geeksforgeeks.org/ethics-vs-morality/

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Lisa Kohn - Addicted to The Messiah
Divorced: Unification Church (The Moonies)

CW: Suicidality; abandonment; substance addiction

My guest today was a speaker at the very first Conference on Religious Trauma in 2021. Lisa Kohn is a Unification Church Second Gen, and she is the award-winning author of TO THE MOON AND BACK: A CHILDHOOD UNDER THE INFLUENCE.

Lisa understands what it’s like to be raised in – and torn between – two worlds. In fact, the best seats Lisa ever had at Madison Square Garden were at her mother’s mass wedding; and the best cocaine she ever had was from her father’s friend, the judge.

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https://www.lisakohnwrites.com/
IG: @lisakohnwrites
Lisa’s book excerpt: https://www.lisakohnwrites.com/to-the-moon-and-back/

Information on the Unification Church (aka The Moonies) https://www.insider.com/who-are-the-moonies-and-what-is-the-unification-church-2022-7
https://www.poconorecord.com/story/news/2023/02/26/unification-church-and-rod-of-iron-ministries-what-sets-them-apart/69933145007/
https://www.unificationcanada.org/en/about-us/

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Dawn Knoche Anthony - Mom of 9 who Divorced Religion
Divorced: Fundamentalist Christianity

CW: Domestic abuse, miscarriage
Dawne Knoch Anthony was in an abusive marriage justified by religion. She got out and now gives back to the community to help others.

A survivor of domestic abuse and religious trauma, Dawne has redefined her life with resilience and strength. After growing up in a conservative religious family, Dawne experienced domestic abuse while homeschooling her 9 children. Dawne is now an advocate for survivors of domestic violence and religious trauma, raising funds for domestic violence shelters through recitals.In this episode, Dawne shares her riveting tale of escape.

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
The Women’s Encyclopedia of Myths and Secrets, by Barbara G. Walker
https://www.thehotline.org/plan-for-safety/create-your-personal-safety-plan/
Domestic Violence National Hotline USA Phone: 1-800-799 SAFE (7233) Text: START to 88788

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The Margaret Atwood Episode

Margaret Atwood is the author of more than 50 books of fiction, poetry, critical essays, and graphic novels. Her work has been published in more than 45 countries. The Testaments, her most recent novel, is a co-winner of the 2019 Booker Prize. It is the long awaited sequel to The Handmaid’s Tale, now an award-winning TV series.

Margaret’s other works of fiction include Cat’s Eye, finalist for the 1989 Booker Prize; Alias Grace, which won the Giller Prize in Canada and the Premio Mondello in Italy; the Blind Assassin, winner of the 2000 Booker Prize; the MaddAddam Trilogy; and Hag-Seed.

Ms. Atwood is the recipient of numerous awards, including the Peace Prize of the German Book Trade, the Franz Kafka International Literary Prize, the PEN Center USA Lifetime Achievement Award, and the Los Angeles Times Innovator’s Award. Together with her late husband Graeme Gibson, Margaret was also awarded the Nature Canada Award for Conservation Advocacy.

In this episode, Margaret shares her thoughts on religion, history, politics, abortion… and asks me to join her cult.

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Dorian Ortega - Dismantling Systems of Oppression

Dorian A. Ortega is a licensed clinical professional counselor and founder of F.L.Y. Radical Therapy, LLC.

First Love Yourself (F.L.Y.) Radical Therapy is a therapeutic approach centering BIPOC and LGBTQIA+. It’s about loving yourself through collective social liberation awareness and healing with each other.

F.L.Y. Radical Therapy is inspired by liberation, womanist, and multicultural psychology.

In this discussion, Dorian shares about her Puerto Rican heritage which has moved her to focus on social justice. Dorian and her colleagues are working to dismantle Patriarchy and foster healing by teaching about agreements and boundaries and building awareness around systemic oppression.

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Philip Moss - Athletes in Action Exposed
Divorced: Christianity

CW: Child abuse, sex/purity culture

Philip Moss grew up in a small midwestern ultra conservative farming community and Reformed Church tradition, after which he attended a conservative Christian College and then spent 7 years with the Campus Crusade for Christ (cult) as a basketball player for Athletes In Action, prior to obtaining his master's degree in counseling/psychology at a Southern Baptist Seminary in Denver.

Then, within one year, Phil left religion and the church. In his own words, he has been in a 'deconstruction mode" for the last 32 years.
Phil has been a licensed professional counselor/therapist and administrator for over 30 years and is currently transitioning to a focus on religious deconstruction and spiritual healing. He is a certified guided meditation facilitator and uses meditation, mindfulness, cognitive mindfulness, and inner child healing to support his clients.

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peaceandcontentmentcoaching.com

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Jeremy Low - Intense Christianity led to Intense Depression

Divorced: Christianity and Navigators

CW: SUICIDAL IDEATION in the last half of show

Jeremy Low began his search for friendship and purpose during his polytechnic days, and eventually found himself deeply committed to the Navigators, a Christian campus ministry run by a fundamentalist missionary from Korea.

Over the next ten years, Jeremy immersed himself in the mission of discipleship, convinced it was the highest calling. When he grappled with depression and was ostracized for his inability to maintain his spiritual commitment, Jeremy embarked on a journey of deconstructing harmful religious beliefs. Emerging from this experience, Jeremy now has empathy for young people navigating mental health and religious issues and seeks to counsel others in this space.

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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeremy-low94/

RESOURCES MENTIONED:

https://bartcampolo.org/

Book: The Sacred Depths of Nature, by Ursula Goodenough

https://sacreddepthsofnature.com/

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Naomi Norton Ph.D, LCMFT, LMFT - White Evangelical Power and Control

Divorced: White Evangelical Ideology

Naomi Norton graduated from Northcentral University with her PhD in Family Therapy. Her dissertation focused on how the white fundamental evangelical culture makes meaning about mental illness. She has an active private practice, is an assistant professor at National University, and is a program supervisor at Friends University. She is passionate about exploring how culture shapes meaning, especially within religion, and how it affects interpersonal and systemic functioning. I became interested in chatting with Naomi when I learned about the White Fundamentalist Evangelical Power & Control Wheel (link below).

FIND NAOMI:https://www.hopeforhealingllc.org/

Facebook profile link: https://www.facebook.com/naomi.ruth.351

RESOURCES:

Facebook link for journal article background:

https://www.facebook.com/plugins/post.php?href=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.facebook.com%2Fnaomi.ruth.351%2Fposts%2F10167324543655389

Google Doc Link for PDF versions of the wheel graphics: https://drive.google.com/drive/folders/1-E5MSPs_2D9vQLGB1rsm-JpfeRfkNaql

Pre-print journal article with graphics: https://osf.io/preprints/socarxiv/c9x3t/?fbclid=IwAR1yFb41837jwQNVLN64a_tbtiOooIxoMMdovEeNjL7E9AyzO66tOH9RtkQ_aem_AWD0-EYtUfPvvpvflT3tVHIpLpi61vKEPDvAQKn1O2HBu5eQpc0B62rruYy40WMDyko

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Kelly Hofer - From Hutterite to Heathen

Divorced: Hutterite Christianity

My guest today is fellow Canadian, Kelly Hofer, who is a visual content producer in Calgary, Alberta. Kelly grew up on a Hutterite colony in Manitoba. At age 19, Kelly made the difficult decision to leave his home on the colony due to his sexuality and to pursue art as a career.

Kelly now works in the mediums of Photography, Film, Wearable Tech, Electrical Engineering, Furniture Design, and other experimental art forms.

Today, Kelly shares about growing up and leaving his family and culture and how he helps other gay Hutterites today.

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https://www.kellyhofer.com

https://www.instagram.com/kellyhofer/

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Yehudis Keller - Sockless Rebel

Divorced: Ultra Orthodox Judaism

My guest today is Yehudis Keller, who is a former member of an ultra-Orthodox Jewish community in Brooklyn, NY. Yehudis is currently a clinical psychology Ph.D. student in Cleveland, aiming to contribute to psychological research on the mechanisms of psychological adjustment after disaffiliation from high-cost religion, and to be a therapist specializing in that area.

FIND YEHUDIS:
Twitter/X: https://twitter.com/YehudisKeller
ResearchGate: https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Yehudis-Keller
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/yehudisk/
Personal Site: yehudiskeller.com

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DJ Williams, PhD - Murder as a Leisure Activity
Divorced: Mormonism

CW: Suicide, homicide, frank descriptions of sex
Today’s guest, Dr. DJ Williams, was raised Mormon. We met when he presented at a Center for Positive Sexuality session on the Threat of Mass Public Violence by “Incels.”
Dr. Williams is a Professor at the Department of Sociology, Social Work, & Criminology at Idaho State University. He is also a board member and Research Affiliate with the Center for Positive Sexuality (Los Angeles);a co-founding editor of the Journal of Positive sexuality www.journalofpositivesexuality.org; and, the associate editor of Leisure Sciences.

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djwilliams@isu.edu
https://positivesexuality.org/

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Sara Tasneem - Child Marriage Survivor
Divorced: Sufi Cult + Child Marriage

CW: CSA We will be discussing child marriage and forced marriage today, and all that goes along with it.

My guest today is Sara Tasneem, who recently participated on our Child Marriage Panel at CORT2023. Sara is a survivor of forced child marriage who advocates publicly to end child marriage in the United States. Her story has been featured in the documentary, Knots: A Forced Marriage Story and has been shared across national and international multi-media outlets.

Sara works alongside non-profit organizations and other survivor advocates to raise awareness and to lobby and testify for legislation that seeks to end child and forced marriage. She also volunteers as a peer mentor to girls and women who have experienced child marriage and forced marriage. She sits on multiple coalitions including, the California Coalition to End Child Marriage, and the National Coalition to End Child Marriage.

FIND SARA:
Email: tasneemsf333@gmail.com
FB: https://www.facebook.com/thrivingaftersurviving
Blog: https://tasneemsfadvocacy.home.blog/

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Links to get help or connect:
Unchained At Last: https://www.unchainedatlast.org/
Tahirih Justice Center: https://www.tahirih.org/

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The Cult Sisters - Life in the Last Days Ministries Christian Cult
Divorced: Last Days Ministries & Evangelical Christianity

This is a CROSSOVER episode! Listen & subscribe to the Feet of Clay – Confessions of the Cult Sisters podcast for the other episode!

My guests today were devotees of the late Christian musician - and cult leader - Keith Green. Sharon Madere (Bennett) and Tracey Phalen (Reed) worked alongside Keith and Melody Green at Last Days Ministries (LDM). Growing up in the 1970s and 80s in my Canadian Pentecostal church, I loved the music and passion of Keith Green. I memorized many of his songs and read “No Compromise” – his life story, as written by his wife – many times.

Tracey and Sharon now co-host the podcast called “Feet of Clay: Confessions of the Cult Sisters” to tell their stories, set the record straight about Keith & LDM, and to help others who are on their own healing journeys out of fundamentalist Christianity and other high-control groups and cults.

CONTACT TRACEY & SHARON
Podcast: Feet of Clay – Confessions of the Cult Sisters
Facebook public page: Feet of Clay, Confessions of the Cult Sisters
Facebook group: Feet of Clay – Confessions of the Cult Sisters COMMUNITY
Website: www.ConfessionsoftheCultSisters.com
Instagram: feetofclay.cultsisters

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Seth Showalter - Conversion Therapy Survivor
Divorced: Southern Baptist Convention

CW: Conversion therapy discussion

Seth Showalter is a LCSW from Columbia, MO, working as a clinical supervisor and therapist at Brave Counseling & Psychiatry in Columbia. Seth is also an author, with his newest book, Finally Free: A Surrender to Authenticity, scheduled for release in October of 2023.

Today, Seth shares his taxing and disturbing experiences with conversion therapy after experiencing a very lonely childhood, as well as his eventual path towards self-acceptance.

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www.sethshowalter.com
https://mentalhealthuncovered.com/

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Brady Hardin - Sued by his Evangelical Mother
Divorced: Christianity

My friend Brady Hardin is a secular humanist, conversion therapy survivor, and queer parent living in St. Louis, MO, where he works in Marketing and Design.

Brady’s evangelical mother has sued him and his ex-wife for grandparent visitation rights, even though they do not believe her to be an emotionally safe person for their son to spend time with. Today, Brady shares his painful story as a warning to other parents regarding so-called grandparents’ rights.

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Tamara MC - Child Bride in the USA

Divorced: Religious Cult
My guest today is a freedom activist for girls and women worldwide. Dr. Tamara MC is a social scientist and linguist who explores how language is used to manipulate vulnerable populations.

As a cult, child marriage, polygamy, and modern-day slavery survivor/advocate, themes in Dr. Tamara’s work explore coercive control, intergenerational trauma, religion/spirituality, and mothering. She is currently revising her debut memoir, Child Bride: My Marriage at 12.

Dr. Tamara will be hosting our Child Marriage & CSA Panel at CORT2023.

FIND Dr. Tamara MC:
@TamaraMCPhD
https://tamaramc.com/
https://twitter.com/TamaraMCPhD
https://www.instagram.com/tamaramcphd/

Articles by Tamara MC:
I grew up in a cult and was married at 12— in Texas
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/cult-child-marriage-texas-b1973888.html
Essay in Ms. Magazine about the cult I grew up in:
https://msmagazine.com/2022/09/23/uncultured-book-review-children-of-god-cult-girls-women/
Essay in Motherwell about girls staying sweet:
https://motherwellmag.com/2022/08/10/i-was-a-child-bride-its-time-to-stop-teaching-young-girls-to-stay-sweet/

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Carol Merchasin - Sexual Misconduct by Spiritual Community Leaders
CW: Discussion of sexual misconduct & abuse by cultic-type leaders

As a former corporate investigator turned cult investigator, Carol Merchasin has worked to help uncover some of the hidden corruption at the heart of international spiritual movements. Her work shines a light on the failures of many spiritual centers and retreats, and the abuse of power by cult leaders.

Carol has worked with survivors of abuse and misconduct across a number of global spiritual and religious movements and has extensive experience as both a litigator and an investigator.

Carol Merchasin is currently of counsel at McAllister Olivarius, where she heads up the Sexual Misconduct in Spiritual Communities practice group. She is based in New Jersey and is registered as an attorney with the Massachusetts Bar.

For more from Carol, join us online at CORT2023 in October.

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Susanna Guarino - Religious Trauma in Relationships
Divorced: Christian Fundamentalism

Today’s guest is musician and therapist Susanna Guarino. Susanna is a licensed mental health counselor in private practice in NY specializing in religious trauma, spiritual abuse recovery, and couples’ therapy.

Susanna’s own parents met in a neo-puritanical Christian cult. She spent a lot of her childhood learning fire and brimstone theology and memorizing verses from the King James Bible.

FIND SUSANNA:
website: http://www.goodearthcounseling.com
music: https://susannarose.bandcamp.com/track/winter-days
and http://www.susannarose.com
Susanna@goodearthcounseling.com
RESOURCES MENTIONED
· Gottman Method https://www.gottman.com/
· Educated, by Tara Westover https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Educated_(book)
· Uncultured, by Daniella Mestyanek Young (speaking at CORT2023) https://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/uncultured-daniella-mestyanek-young/1140777590
· CORT2023 https://www.religioustraumaconference.org/

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Uthman Khan - Overcoming Islamic Indoctrination
Overcoming Islamic Indoctrination
Divorced: Fundamentalist Islam

Uthman Khan completed his traditional religious degree from an Islamic Madrasa in the UK. He also received his Master of Arts from Hartford International University in Islamic Studies, focussing on Muslim Christian Relations. Uthman is currently a PhD student of Sociocultural Anthropology at the University of Alberta. His current historical research is on idolatry and idol worship of 7th Century Arabia; however, his anthropological ethnography is focussed on religious trauma in Canada. Additionally, Uthman is an Alberta Licensed Health and Nutrition Practitioner and a Stock Market investor and Educator who co-founded the GIVE investing school.

As with all of my guests, Uthman’s experiences are his own and not necessarily reflective of the broader group.

FIND UTHMAN:
https://substack.com/@uthman
https://twitter.com/zakkhuaha9

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Mike Phillips - I Like Mike
Divorced: Fundamentalist Christianity

My guest today is former pastor and current sex and trauma therapist, Mike Phillips. Mike is a Twitter friend I’ve come to respect as a deeply compassionate and professional therapist. He currently specializes in using Internal Family Systems and EMDR therapies, and his focus for sex therapy is on BDSM, sexual dysfunction, sexual repression, and polyamory.

FIND MIKE
https://mikeinsac.com/
https://twitter.com/sacwriter

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Chris Johnson - The Atheist Book

My guest today is New York-based photographer and filmmaker, Chris Johnson. I first heard of Chris through my friend and mentor, Dr. Marlene Winell, who was featured in his beautiful coffee table book A BETTER LIFE: 100 ATHEISTS SPEAK OUT ON JOY AND MEANING IN A WORLD WITHOUT GOD.

In this episode, Chris shares what it was like to interview prominent atheists from around the world, including James Randi, Julia Sweeney, Penn & Teller, and Steven Pinker, for his book and his documentary film called “A Better Life: An Exploration of Joy & Meaning in a World Without God.”
Find Chris:
https://www.theatheistbook.com/
https://www.facebook.com/theatheistbook

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E.V. - From Moonie to Atheist

Divorced: Unification Church

My guest today is E.V., who left the Unification Church (aka The Moonies) after being a devoted member for 25 years. Her story is interesting and her liberation delightful.

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I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist & Divorcing Religion Crossover Show

Guests: IWATF hosts Brian & Troy

Today’s show is a special audio-only crossover episode with my Aussie mates, Brian & Troy, hosts of the incredibly popular I Was A Teenage Fundamentalist podcast. Brian & Troy both were both megachurch leaders – until they saw the light. I love the work these guys are doing and I think you will, too. I hope you enjoy our funny, irreverent, and candid conversation.

Find Troy & Brian:

https://www.iwasateenagefundamentalist.com/

https://twitter.com/WasTeenage

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCs0jrFsxPsg7rGNfgqzAGug

https://www.instagram.com/iwasateenagefundamentalist/

https://www.facebook.com/TeenageFundamentalist

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Scott Okamoto - Asian American Apostate

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Ryan Hernandez - Escaping the Alliance of the Holy Family Cult

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Jessica Robin - Recovering from Islamic Oppression

TW: Child abuse, religious abuse

Today’s guest is Jessica Robin, a program creator and group facilitator with Free Hearts, Free Minds (FHFM) - the charity founded by CORT2021 speaker Yasmine Mohammed. FHFM focuses on former Muslims at risk of persecution or execution for what they think or who they love. Jessica has a bachelor of behavioural science in psychology, as well as being a certified coach. Though Jessica has always been secular, she is passionate about Islamic issues and human rights.

In this episode, Jessica shares stories of life under oppressive Islamic regimes and how FHFM is working to help survivors find freedom and autonomy.

FIND Jessica, Yasmine, & FHFM info:
https://www.freeheartsfreeminds.com/
https://www.instagram.com/freeheartsfreeminds/
https://twitter.com/YasMohammedxx
https://www.youtube.com/@YasmineMohammedxx
https://www.yasminemohammed.com/unveiled

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Brett Harper - Exposing the Troubled Teen Industry (TTI)
Divorced: Baptist Christianity

Trigger Warning: CSA, kidnapping, abuse

Today’s guest is troubled teen industry survivor and activist Brett Harper. Having survived a Troubled Teen Industry program that left him with traumatic, life-long injuries and disabilities, Brett has made it is his purpose in life to raise awareness about child abuse in the troubled teen industry. Brett uses the hashtag “Spare the Rod” as a call to action that challenges those in authority to lead with love, empathy, and compassion instead of with a heavy hand.

In this episode, Brett shares some of his own experiences as a TTI survivor, how it continues to impact him, and his work as an advocate for TTI survivors.

FIND BRETT:
https://www.sparetherodnp.com/
https://twitter.com/SpareTheRodHQ

Additional TTI Information
https://www.unsilenced.org/troubled-teen-industry-timeline/
https://culteducation.com/group/1184-teen-boot-camps/20263-horror-stories-from-tough-love-teen-homes.html

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Dr. Gillie Jenkinson - Post-Cult Counselling
Divorced: Fundamentalist Christian cult

Gillie Jenkinson, PhD, is a cult survivor, accredited psychotherapist, international speaker, and Director of Hope Valley Counselling. For over 25 years she has specialised, as therapist and researcher, in the challenges faced by those who have experienced coercive, cultic and spiritual abuse.

Gillie’s book ‘Walking Free from the Trauma of Coercive, Cultic and Spiritual Abuse: A Workbook for Recovery and Growth’ will be published by Routledge in May 2023 and is available for pre-order.

In this episode, Gillie shares her experience of being involved in a cultic group and her healing journey afterward, including becoming an expert in coercive control.

For more from Gillie, join us at CORT2023.

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Today’s guest is Marie Lerch. I started following Marie when she made social media posts about her own deconstruction - while remaining married to a current pastor.

Marie was raised by her grandmother until age 13, at which point she entered Canada’s foster care system. After 3 years in foster care she met her husband, and they’ve now been married 27 years.

Today, Marie shares about Divorcing Religion while remaining happily married to her Christian husband, stressing the importance of communication and the help she received through Internal Family Systems therapy.

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https://lovemaven.ca/

https://twitter.com/Kootenaygirl69

https://www.facebook.com/Mamalele

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Jimmy Snow was Born in the Dirt

Guest: Jimmy Snow

Divorced: Mormonism

Today’s guest is internet personality Jimmy Snow, formerly known as Dear Mr. Atheist and Mr. Atheist. Jimmy is now the executive producer of The Line, a channel for skeptic-minded call-in shows.

On today’s episode, Jimmy dishes about growing up in a Mormon family and what it was like to Divorce Religion and grow into himself.

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https://twitter.com/JimmyASnow

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Dr. Coco Owen - The Courage to Doubt

Divorced: Seventh Day Adventism
Dr. Coco Owen is a licensed psychologist who has a private practice working with people recovering from religious trauma and in various stages of deconstruction. She grew up Seventh-day Adventist in Southern California and went to Adventist schools from kindergarten through college—including a two-year stint at a church boarding school.

After a deep crisis of faith during her last year of college, Coco became an atheist and left the church completely. That began a long and sometimes painful psychological, spiritual, and creative process of recovery and self-discovery that culminated in her becoming a clinical psychologist and published poet.

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Chris Shelton - Scientology Survivor

Divorced: Church of Scientology

My guest today is author, consultant, anti-cult activist, podcaster, YouTuber, and former Scientologist Chris Shelton. A member of Scientology for 27 years, of which he spent 17 in the Sea Org, Chris left Scientology in 2012, and in 2015 published his book Scientology: A to Xenu.

Today, Chris shares what it was like growing up in Scientology, signing a billion-year contract, and eventually learning that he had devoted his entire life to a cult.

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Chris Shelton's YouTube channel: https://www.youtube.com/@ChrisSheltonMsc
His book, Scientology: A to Xenu, is available here:
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Connie Baker - Christian Codependency
Divorced: Fundamentalist Christianity

CW: Sexual abuse, Christianity

Connie A. Baker, MA, LPC is a Licensed Professional Counselor who specializes in recovery from religious abuse. Connie’s life mission is to educate, validate, and advocate for religious abuse survivors. In 1990, she suffered life-shattering spiritual abuse and had NO ONE to talk with about it. She has since created a number of resources to help others recovering from spiritual abuse.

Connie’s book is called TRAUMATIZED BY RELIGIOUS ABUSE: Discover the Cultures and Systems of Religious Abuse and Reclaim Your Personal Power. She’s also created some card decks related to deconstruction and reconstruction. In this episode, we discuss Connie’s history and how Christians are groomed for codependency.

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Website: https://connieabaker.com/
Card deck: https://question-mapping.com/

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Seth Andrews
Magical Thinking & Misinformation
Divorced: Christianity

CW: U.S. politics

Seth Andrews is a former evangelical and Christian broadcaster who now hosts The Thinking Atheist…one of the most popular podcasts and online atheist communities in the world. The Thinking Atheist is not a person. It is an icon encouraging all to reject faith and pursue reason and evidence.

Seth has authored five books, including his latest offering, “Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot.” He also hosts a second podcast, "True Stories with Seth Andrews."

In this episode, Seth and I talk about how religion primes us for magical thinking in other areas of life.

Find Seth:
https://www.sethandrews.com/
https://www.thethinkingatheist.com/
https://www.truestoriespodcast.com/

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Mahrs Schoppman - The Colonization of our Bodies
Divorced: Evangelical Christianity

Mahrs Schoppman is a queer & trans somatic psychotherapist with a private practice based out of his home office in the redwood trees of Occidental, California. Mahrs specializes in working with the queer community and with those who live with the embodied traumatic impacts of growing up in an oppressive religious environment.

He is passionate about walking with people on their journeys of reclaiming embodied knowing, sensation, emotional range, and vitality as a means of recovering from the learned dissociation that comes with restrictive religion. Mahrs facilitates therapy groups for queer survivors of religious trauma and is in the midst of writing a book about his experiences and ideas around religious trauma.

On today’s episode, Mahrs shares his gripping extimony about coming out as a nonbeliever and member of the LGBTQ+ community, and how his own experience informs his private practice.

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Isaiah Bell - From Cult Survivor to Composer
Divorced: Evangelical cult “The Move”

CW: CSA is mentioned in this episode.

Isaiah Bell is a Canadian tenor, writer, composer, and artist who grew up in Canada in an evangelical cult. I recently had the opportunity to attend his one-man, cabaret-style opera called “The Book of My Shames,” which he describes this way:

“I’m a good and happy modern gay, thanks very much... But there’s this other me that’s at odds with all that; this tender part that has been left behind in the dark. Shame maintains the gap between us. So I’m reaching out. This is my Rosetta Stone between two halves of a broken heart.”

In this episode, Isaiah and I discuss some of the challenges of growing up fundy and trying to integrate ourselves into the larger culture – which can be especially hard as a member of the 2SLGBTQ+ community.

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Jessica Barksdale - Family Secrets

CW: CSA, sexual coercion

Author JESSICA BARKSDALE has written 16 books, including novels and poetry, with a short story collection coming out this year. She currently teaches a course for UCLA Extension on novel writing. The subject of Jessica’s most recent novel, What the Moon Did, resonates with stories I’ve heard from clients in my counselling practice.

Themes in this book include adolescence, vulnerability, coercion, and family secrets, with the underlying message summarized as: No matter how we try to hide our pasts, the truth finds its way to the surface, sometimes in devastating ways.

Many of us raised in fundamentalist religious families felt the pressure to keep secrets in order to protect reputations. One thing we didn’t know about, though, was the concept of consent.

ABOUT JESSICA:
Jessica Barksdale’s sixteenth novel What the Moon Did was published February 2023 by Flexible Press. Her short story collection Trick of the Porch Light is forthcoming in 2023. She’s published two poetry collections: When We Almost Drowned (2019) and Grim Honey (2021).
She taught at Diablo Valley College in Pleasant Hill, California and continues to teach for UCLA Extension and in the online MFA program for Southern New Hampshire University.

Website: www.jessicabarksdaleinclan.com

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Jena Miyu is the co-owner of a YouTube channel called The Atheist Network Group “The Flavor” with her boyfriend, Oz. Jena was raised a Baptist Christian and has been an atheist for nearly 4 years. She has been part of the online atheist community for the same amount of time. Jena has co-hosted, produced, and run several different shows and channels.

In this episode, Jena shares some of the challenges related to rejecting Christianity as a Black woman, mourning losses without belief in gods, and rebuilding identity post religion.

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YouTube:
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https://youtube.com/@BlackFemaleAtheist
https://www.facebook.com/jena.miyu.3?mibextid=LQQJ4d
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CW: Death of father, estrangement

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Daniella Mestyanek Young - Sex Cult Survivor

Divorced: The Children of God cult

TW: Discussion of CSA and military sexual assault

DANIELLA MESTYANEK YOUNG is an American author and speaker who was raised in the religious cult, Children of God.

She later served as an intelligence officer for the US Army for over 6 years, making the rank of Captain, and became one of the first women in US Army history to conduct deliberate ground combat operations when she volunteered to serve on a Female Engagement Team, and received the Presidential Volunteer Service Award. Daniella is a wife and mother in Maryland and holds a Master’s Degree in Industrial and Organizational Psychology from the Harvard Extension School.

In today’s episode, Daniella discusses escaping from the Children of God and trying to integrate into secular life, as well as parallels between all cultish groups (including the military).

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DANIELLA’S LINKS
https://www.amazon.com/Uncultured-Memoir-Daniella-Mestyanek-Young/dp/1250280117/ref=tmm_hrd_swatch_0?_encoding=UTF8&qid=1667828324&sr=8-1

https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/growing-up-in-a-cult-we-kept-our-pain-silent-20221214-p5c6be.html

https://www.mamamia.com.au/uncultured-book-daniella-young/

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Dr. Ling Lam - Spiritual Refugee
Divorced: Fundamentalist Christianity

Dr. Ling Lam is a Licensed Marriage and Family Therapist with a part-time practice in Palo Alto and San Francisco. He is also a Lecturer in the Counseling Psychology Department at Santa Clara University, where he teaches courses on Complex Trauma, Crisis Intervention, LGBT Counseling, Family Therapy, Couple Therapy and Multicultural Psychotherapy.

In this episode, Dr. Lam discusses his own challenges with cultural shifts, spiritual awakenings, and embracing his sexuality as a member of the 2SLGBTQ+ community..

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https://www.scu.edu/ecp/faculty/counselingfaculty/ling-lam-phd/lam.html
https://www.therealling.com/

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Erica Smith - Sex After Purity Culture

Erica Smith is an award-winning sexuality educator and consultant with over 20 years of experience. She has provided comprehensive sex education and advocacy to young women and LGBTQ+ youth in Philadelphia’s juvenile justice system, worked in abortion care, and supported HIV+ and transgender adolescents and their families.

Erica developed the Purity Culture Dropout™️ Program to provide the sex education we missed growing up in purity culture - a program that is accurate, queer inclusive, trauma informed, compassionate, and comprehensive.

On today’s episode, Erica shares some of the experiences that helped her see the need for programs tailored to those recovering from Christianity and purity culture indoctrination.

Erica was one of our speakers in 2022 at the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference – for which recordings are now available at 50% off!

For more from Erica, join us at CORT2023 online October 20-22. Get your tickets here: https://www.religioustraumaconference.org/

FIND ERICA
www.purityculturedropout.com
https://www.ericasmitheac.com/

RESOURCES MENTIONED
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Many sex-themed books are mentioned in the second half of this episode.

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Angel De Santis - Surviving God’s Twisted Love
Divorced: The Children of God cult

CW: CSA

ANGEL DeSANTIS

Angel grew up in the apocalyptic Christian cult known as The Children of God. She managed to leave the cult about 14 years ago, and has been on a healing journey ever since, by building her brain and sharing her thought processes with others.

Angel is a mental health advocate, cult survivor, & storyteller, in addition to being a yoga teacher in LA.

She has a YT channel and has developed several courses to help others in recovery from religious and other forms of trauma. Links will be posted in the show notes for Angel’s resources.

In October of 2023, Angel will be speaking on a panel at the Conference on Religious Trauma (CORT) about CSA and child marriage.
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FIND ANGEL
https://www.theprocessbyangel.com/
https://www.youtube.com/c/AngelDeSantis/featured

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Tatyana Russell-Chipp
Divorced: Christianity

CW: Adoption, sexual assault

Today on the Divorcing Religion Podcast we will be exploring adoption – particularly religious adoption – with all of its sticky tentacles and residue, especially for those adoptees who outgrow their adoptive parents’ religious beliefs.

Tatyana Russell-Chipp was adopted from Russia into a Canadian Christian family. She was a pastor and ministry leader for about 10 years but deconstructed her faith altogether following significant spiritual abuse. In this interview, Tatyana shares candidly about abandonment issues related to being relinquished at birth and then fearing additional abandonment by coming out to her parents as a nonbeliever who is also a member of the 2SLGBTQ community.

FIND TATYANA:
Tatyana Link Tree https://linktr.ee/totttttttttt

RESOURCES
Religion News Service Article: https://religionnews.com/2022/10/28/adoption-remembrance-day-adoption-awareness-monthon-oct-30-adoptee-remembrance-day-centers-adoptee-grief/

Books:
No More Faking Fine: Ending the Pretending by Esther Fleece
The Child Catchers: Rescue, Trafficking, and the New Gospel of Adoption by Kathryn Joyce

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Mary Byler
Divorced: Traditional Amish lifestyle and beliefs

CW: CSA

My guest today is advocate, podcaster, and newly published author Mary Byler.

Mary grew up Amish, and since escaping has focussed attention on the child sexual abuse that plagues many Anabaptist and other closed religious communities, including Amish ones.

Her new book is called Reflections and Memories of an Amish Misfit.
Mary will be joining us as a speaker at CORT2023 in October: https://www.religioustraumaconference.org/

RESOURCES
Mary’s book: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0BPQJNT7K

Petition for Children’s Rights: http://surl.li/frhaw

Research paper: https://www.themisfitamish.com/research

Amish Unbaptism: http://surl.li/frhbg

What’s beneath the Amish dress: https://www.tiktok.com/@the.misfit.amish/video/7116610172088274222?is_from_webapp=1&web_id=6968095332241737222

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Zorah Khan - My Leap to Freedom
Divorced: Islamic cult

*I apologize for some background noise in this episode from my noisy furnace – but it’s worth listening to this amazing story of hard-won freedom!

Zorah Khan understands both cultural oppression and religious indoctrination, having grown up in an Islamic cult from childhood. In addition to being deeply fear-based, the cult also endorsed the suppression of joy, freedom, and segregation from wider society.
In her own words: “My opinions and freedom were always in the hands of someone else. This conditioning ran so deep that I couldn't even gain an understanding of the situation until I escaped and had space.”

Life looks very different for Zorah these days. Viewing herself as an intuitive healer, her passion now is to hold space for people moving through personal transformation. Today, Zorah opens up about life inside a repressive Islamic cult and what moved her to escape.

FIND ZORAH KHAN:
https://www.zorahkhan.com/

RESOURCES MENTIONED:
https://www.journeyfree.org/leaving-the-fold/
https://www.journeyfree.org/
https://poets.org/poem/autobiography-eve
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Marie LePage - PSYCHEDELICS: THE UNF*CKENING
Divorced: Evangelical/nondenominational Catholicism

Note Do not try psychedelics without first conferring with your doctor. For some people, it is never safe to use psychedelics. Use of psychedelics is not legal in many states and countries.

MARIE Le PAGE describes herself as a life doula, life coach, community organizer, and plant-medicine sitter. Marie understands personally the pain and trauma of growing up in an emotionally neglectful and spiritually abusive household. Upon discovering plant medicine, Marie started their awakening and integration experience. They now find joy in coaching others who are also awakening, whether it’s processing their spiritual abuse, their journeys into non-traditional relationship structures, or any other deconstruction and healing path.

Marie recently spoke at the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture online conference about remedial consent for former fundies and hosted the More Than Monogamy Panel, of which I was a member. Today, Marie shares candidly about her use of psychedelics to aid in personal unf*ckening related to trauma.

Get your tickets to the Conference on Religious Trauma/Shameless Sexuality Conference 2023: https://www.religioustraumaconference.org/

Watch Marie's talk at the Shameless Sexuality Conference in 2022 with a resource ticket: https://www.religioustraumaconference.org/register

FIND MARIE:
https://www.marielepage.com/
RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference. Recordings available for purchase here: https://www.religioustraumaconference.org/register

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Willie Cartwright - Saved to Sane

Divorced: Christianity

WILLIE CARTWRIGHT is a speaker, entrepreneur, author, and advocate. Willie is a professional person, having received a B.S Degree in Finance and earned an Executive MBA.Though he and his wife now own several successful businesses, Willie and his sister were raised by a single mother in the public housing neighbourhoods of Birmingham, Alabama.

As a child, he was relentlessly bullied due to his thick glasses and stutter. His stepfather was so verbally abusive that Willie threatened to kill him.Raised in a strict Christian household deep in the Bible belt, Willie walked away from organized religion and Christianity in 2015.

After doing exhaustive research on the topic, he wrote his most recent book: From Saved to Sane: My journey away from Christianity and how it has adversely affected the African American Community. Today, Willie shares about the impact his deconversion had on family relationships and why he is so passionate about educating on religion and critical thinking.

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FIND WILLIE CARTWRIGHT
https://www.williecartwrightspeaks.com/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCktoA5hQZBI03PIQAOoS2nQ
https://www.facebook.com/WillieCartwrightSpeaks/?fref=ts
https://twitter.com/wocartwright

RESOURCES MENTIONED
Dr. Darrel Ray at CORT2021 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GgclZY5X6B4
Jeremiah Camara http://jeremiahcamara.com/
Mandisa Thomas https://blacknonbelievers.org/
Candace Gorham https://twitter.com/ebonyexodus
https://www.seculartherapy.org/
https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

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REBUILDING IDENTITY
Dr. Josie McSkimming
Divorced: Evangelical Christianity

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Dr. Josie McSkimming is an Australian social worker, psychotherapist, lecturer, and researcher. She has been in full time private practice since 2000, specializing in relationship therapy and adult mental health.

In her book Leaving Christian Fundamentalism and the Re-construction of Identity, Dr. McSkimming details the stories of those who have left Christian fundamentalist churches and how they change after they have left.

In this episode, we discuss what’s involved in building our post-religious identity.

FIND Dr. McSkimming:
https://twitter.com/JosieMcskimming

LINKS
https://us.amazon.com/Leaving-Christian-Fundamentalism-Reconstruction-Identity/dp/1138580333/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3D9ECG99HRIDO&keywords=josie+mcskimming&qid=1669163302&sprefix=josie+mcskimming%2Caps%2C323&sr=8-1&ufe=app_do%3Aamzn1.fos.08f69ac3-fd3d-4b88-bca2-8997e41410bb

https://www.mcskimming.com.au/publications.html

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https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/

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Christy Powell
Divorced: Fundamentalist Christianity

Christy Powell (he/him) is a Texas-based counselor and activist with a focus on religious trauma and romantic and sexual relationships of all sorts and sizes. Christy works with clients to explore questions of gender and orientation, kink and polyamory, out of control sexual behavior, and healing from religious shame.

We first connected when I was a guest on the Secular Sexuality show on YouTube, where Christy is one of the hosts. Today, Christy and I discuss his journey from fundamentalist Christian virgin to sexually liberated atheist.

FIND CHRISTY
https://www.vcatx.com/
https://www.youtube.com/c/SecularSexuality/featured

RESOURCES MENTIONED
https://www.shamelesssexuality.org/
https://www.recoveringfromreligion.org/
https://www.journeyfree.org/
The God Virus, by Dr. Darrel Ray
Sex and God, by Dr. Darrel Ray

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Dr. Martin Shoemaker
SEX, PSYCHOLOGY, AND HUMANISM

Divorced: Evangelical Christianity

Dr. Martin Shoemaker was raised in a devout evangelical Christian home in California. While attending Fuller Seminary, his faith was fragmented by studying theology and secular psychology at the same time. He left the church and finished his PhD in clinical psychology, eventually discovering humanism through friends in Canada. For the last several years, Marty has volunteered as a humanist chaplain in British Columbia, which is where we met at a local event for atheists, skeptics, and humanists. In this episode, Dr. Shoemaker discusses his transition out of religion and into secular life, from sports to sex to humanism.

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Luna Corbden
Mormon Manipulation
Divorced: Mormonism

Luna Lindsey Corbden was born into the LDS (Mormon) Church and left the faith at age 26. Autistic and gender fluid, they are an advocate for marginalized people within or at the fringes of authoritarian religions, particularly Mormonism. Their book, Recovering Agency: Lifting the Veil of Mormon Mind Control, helps religious trauma survivors unpack their conditioning by deconstructing the manipulation techniques used by the LDS church. Today, we discuss what led Luna to divorce Mormonism, as well as some of the specific manipulation tactics used by the Mormon church to draw in Believers and keep them from questioning Mormonism.

FIND LUNA:
https://recoveringagency.com/
https://twitter.com/corbden
Luna’s book: https://www.amazon.com/Recovering-Agency-Lifting-Mormon-Control/dp/1489595937/

Resources for RTS survivors: https://recoveringagency.com/resources/

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Ryan Stollar
THE BIBLE: NO FRIEND TO CHILDREN

RYAN STOLLAR is a researcher, advocate, and author. He was homeschooled from kindergarten through high school graduation before attaining both a Master of Human Services in Child Protection and A Master of Arts in Eastern Classics. He has worked with high school students in homeschool communities and is co-founder of the viral website HOMESCHOOLERS ANONYMOUS.

An advocate for children and abuse survivors, Ryan has run numerous social media campaigns for child advocacy organizations. He is a “child liberation theologian,” and his upcoming book is called The Kingdom of Children.

I met Ryan when he participated in a panel at the Conference on Religious Trauma earlier this year, discussing some of the potential pitfalls of religious and homeschooling. Today we discuss Ryan’s own religious journey and how the Bible is no friend to children.

CONTACT & RESOURCES:
Twitter: https://twitter.com/RLStollar
More about child liberation theology: https://rlstollar.com/child-liberation-theology/
Homeschooling articles and resources: https://rlstollar.com/homeschooling/
My Conference on Religious Trauma speech: https://rlstollar.com/2022/05/07/traumatic-homeschooling-how-evangelicals-use-education-to-totalize/

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EMILY HEDRICK
DON’T F*CK THE FLOCK

Divorced: Mennonite Christianity
In addition to having her M.Div, Emily Hedrick is a Certified Trauma Support Specialist, a certified Forward Facing coaching practitioner, and a religious-trauma informed spirituality coach. Deconstructing since age 17, Emily roamed religious circles as an atheist for over a decade,and spent four of those years as a pastor! Godless since 2020, Emily enjoys connecting people with others who understand and empathize with experiences of religious harm. Today, Emily shares her (sometimes painful) deconversion journey and experiences as a female pastor, including relationship instructions found in the title of this episode.
Contact Emily:
Website: emilyhedrickcoachingandconsulting.com
Socials: @emilyhedrickcc

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Jerusha Lofland
HOMESCHOOL HELL

Divorced: Fundamentalist Christianity and IBLP Cult

Jerusha Lofland was homeschooled by extremists in Michigan, along with her 10 younger siblings. Her quest for truth led her first out of Bill Gothard’s IBLP cult, then away from Evangelicalism, then freed her from religion altogether. In this episode, Jerusha shares what it was like growing up in an extremist Christian household with very little freedom to explore the outside world - and what it was like to set herself free.

FIND JERUSHA:
Jerusha blogged her journey from Christian fundamentalism to abortion clinic volunteer here: http://heresyintheheartland.blogspot.com/
https://twitter.com/Miss_Jellyby

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Mary Burkhart: Leaving the Black Church
Divorced: Apostolic Christianity

TW: CSA, suicidal thoughts

Mary Burkhart grew up in the Apostolic/Pentecostal Christian traditions and was heavily indoctrinated into her faith, remaining devout for over 20 years. Her deconstruction journey took her to some very dark places, and nearly cost Mary her life. She is now a Religious Trauma Life Coach, after 10 years of personal religious deconstruction. On this episode of the Divorcing Religion Podcast, Mary shares about her journey, as a Black woman, out of faith and into coaching others recovering from RTS.

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Black Nonbelievers https://blacknonbelievers.org/
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David Teachout
Divorced: Christianity

David Teachout has his Master’s in both forensic psychology and counseling psychology, and he is currently working on a doctorate in clinical psychology. He grew up as a Christian fundamentalist, attending a bible college where he received a BA in theology and psychology - and deconverted in the middle of it all! This year, David spoke at the Conference on Religious Trauma (CORT2022) about navigating marriage when one spouse leaves religion and the other remains a Believer. In this interview, David shares what it was like to lose his faith while attending Bible college.

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Rick Pidcock
Divorced: Christian Fundamentalism

Rick is a graduate of Bob Jones University, with a Bachelor of Arts degree in Bible. He recently completed a Master of Arts degree in worship from Northern Seminary.

After twenty years of leading worship in churches, Rick embarked on a season of spiritual healing where he learned to face his wounds and discover the wonders he had long been suppressing. His journey led him off the stage and drew him home. As a freelance writer, he is also a stay-at-home father of five children and produces music under the artist name Provoke Wonder. Rick’s soon-to-be-released children’s book is called What If?

Today, we discuss the surprising start to Rick’s journey away from his religious roots and how his life has changed as a result.
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Jennifer French
Divorced: Christian mystical cult

Jennifer French is a cult and religious recovery counsellor with a Master’s degree in the psychology of coercive control. She was a member of a Christian mystical cult for 11 years, and this year she addressed us at the Conference on Religious Trauma (CORT2022). Jennifer is host of the Project Hope Podcast for families and friends with loved ones in high-control/high-demand groups. Today, she shares what drew her to a cult and how she eventually left.

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PESACH EISEN

Divorced: Ultra-Orthodox Hasidic Judaism
Pesach Eisen is a trained psychotherapist and researcher with a focus on the intersection of religious disaffiliation and mental health. Pesach was raised in an ultra-Orthodox Hasidic Jewish faith community, from which he gradually departed during his 20s. Today, we explore what it was like to grow up in such a fundamentalist environment, and how he Divorced Religion.

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https://footstepsorg.org/
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Angela Soffe

Divorced: Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints (Mormonism)

Angela Soffe was raised in the Philippines in an Argentine-American family. She is a rising star in the music world whose work and story have been featured in independent films, commercials, and podcasts worldwide. Her music reflects moving out of personal darkness and the challenges of stepping away from 30 years in Mormonism. We met when Angela agreed to speak at the inaugural Conference on Religious Trauma (CORT2021). Today, Angela opens up about what it was like to lose her faith and the challenges of leaving Mormonism behind.

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ELAM ZOOK
Divorced: Traditional Amish Christianity

Elam Zook is a writer, activist, and community organizer addressing Amish and plain community issues. His work has been published in The Journal of Amish and Plain Anabaptist Studies. Elam's efforts were instrumental in organizing the groundbreaking Disrupting History: Reclaiming Our Amish Story conference, which challenged conventional narratives of Amish life.

Elam refers to himself as “nonconforming Amish.” Today, we will be discussing the pressing need for Amish children to receive a better education than is currently required under United States law.

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Dr. CALEB LACK
Divorced: Christianity

Caleb W. Lack, Ph.D., is a Professor of Psychology at the University of Central Oklahoma. A licensed clinical psychologist, he is an award-winning educator and bestselling author of six books. He specializes in the treatment of children and adults with anxiety disorders and obsessive-compulsive and related disorders.

Dr. Lack is the former director of the Secular Therapy Project, which aims to bring together non-religious persons seeking mental health treatment with secular, evidence-based providers. He spoke at the Conference on Religious Trauma in 2022 on the topic of Overcoming Fear of Hell.

In this episode, we touch on scrupulosity and fear of Hell, as well as how parents might unknowingly make anxiety issues worse for young children - and how they can stop.

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RESOURCES MENTIONED:
Dr. Lack’s books - http://caleblack.com/writing.html
Secular Therapy Project - seculartherapy.org/
IOCDF - https://iocdf.org/find-help/
Find CBT providers - findcbt.org
PTSD self help - https://www.ptsd.va.gov/gethelp/selfhelp_coping.asp

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Clint Heacock
Divorced: Evangelical Christianity

Dr. Clint Heacock is an ex-evangelical pastor and Bible college teacher of over 20 years who is now committed to helping formerly religious people unpick their indoctrination, mind control, and conditioning - and take back their lives. You may recognize Clint as the host of MindShift podcast, and as a speaker at the Conference on Religious Trauma earlier this year (CORT2022). In this episode of the Divorcing Religion podcast, Clint gets personal about life in and out of religion.

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David C. Smalley
Divorced: Christianity

In addition to being a successful comedian and actor with over 100 million views on TikTok, David C. Smalley has also hosted his own podcast for over 12 years, making over 600 episodes, downloaded some 60 MILLION times. The David C. Smalley podcast includes discussions that are inspiring and funny, with cordial debates on skepticism, religion, spirituality, politics, and more.
I was privileged to join David on one of his episodes to discuss religious trauma and recovery, and in this episode of the Divorcing Religion podcast I chat with him about his former faith, his family, and his fame.
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David C. Smalley - Daughter Issues
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Divorced: Christianity

Today’s guest is skeptic, magician, and snake-breeder Matt Dillahunty!

Raised Southern Baptist, Matt once considered becoming a minister. Eventually, he lost all belief in the tenets of Christianity and became an atheist. In addition to being a well known speaker and debater, Matt has hosted and co-hosted numerous popular shows on atheism including NonProphets Radio and The Atheist Experience. Currently, Matt is hosting the popular show “The Hang Up” on You Tube.

In this episode of the Divorcing Religion Podcast, Matt shares his journey out of Christianity and how it impacted family relations.

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Jillian is a women's self-worth group facilitator as well as a family mediator who practices in Boise, Idaho. Jillian has 13 years of experience working in the mental health field and has her bachelors in criminal justice, with a minor in psychology. Jillian's primary passion is facilitating support groups and courses to women through her practice at Goddess LLC, where she specializes in empowerment and self-worth. Jillian has served on the Idaho Mediation Association board for three years and has served as the interim Vice President for one year. Jillian is a member of the Association of Family and Conciliation Courts, the Idaho State Bar, the National Coalition Against Domestic Violence, and Soroptimist International.

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Beatrice Weber was raised in an Ultra-Orthodox Jewish community and was married off to a Rabbi in an arranged marriage before graduating high school.

She is a published Author, speaker, education advocate, and mother of 10.

In 2019, she filed a complaint with NYC and NYS on behalf of her youngest son, since he was not receiving a basic education. In 2020 she was featured in a New York Times video Op-ed, calling on the politicians and education officials to step in and ensure that all children in NYS receive an education.
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HEMANT MEHTA
Divorced: Jainism

Hemant Mehta is the founder and editor of FriendlyAtheist.com, a YouTube creator, and podcast co-host. He is a former National Board Certified math teacher in the suburbs of Chicago and continues to coach a competitive public speaking team. He has appeared on CNN and FOX News and served on the board of directors for Foundation Beyond Belief and the Secular Student Alliance. He has written multiple books, including I Sold My Soul on eBay and The Young Atheist's Survival Guide. He also edited the book Queer Disbelief. Today, Hemant shares candidly about what it was like to be part of a lesser known religious group and then reject religion altogether.

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IG: @friendly.atheist
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Today’s guest is my friend in real life, Courtney Heard. We met when I was preparing the first Conference on Religious Trauma and she offered me her marketing expertise. As two atheists, we clicked immediately. Through the years we have co-hosted a podcast together (Godless Moms Podcast) and now, with her husband John, Courtney has launched a new podcast that is extremely timely: The Q-Dropped Podcast. Survivors of Religious Trauma Syndrome will recognize the angst her guests share around how the Q conspiracy has alienated them from loved ones swept up in the cult.

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Erin Louis: Wife, Mother, Author and Stripper
Divorced: Catholicism

Erin Louis was raised a soft Catholic and is a former stripper and author. She has written 3 nonfiction books about stripping:

Dirty Money: Memoirs of a Stripper https://amzn.to/3UdTAfR (her memoir)

Think you want to be a Stripper? (an insider's look at the industry), https://amzn.to/3EJxsEf and

Expose Yourself (a book about atheism, humanism, and critical thinking). https://amzn.to/3ilSAZE

Erin has most recently published a book of short erotic stories and co-authored a crime novel called Stripper Noir, to be released soon. She also has a column for Only Sky Media. In this episode, Erin shares candidly about her choice to become a stripper and why it’s still an important part of her life.

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Today's guest is New York City native Mandisa L. Thomas, who is the founder and president of Black Nonbelievers, Inc. While Mandisa escaped religious indoctrination, today she shares candidly about overcoming other harmful forms of indoctrination and why she started Black Nonbelievers.

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Bradley Onishi grew up in a nonreligious home in California before his extreme conversion to evangelicalism at age 14. By age 20 he was married and leading a 200-student youth group. After 7 years in ministry, he decided to pursue his Masters in Theology at Oxford University - where he ended up deconstructing his faith.

Today, Dr. Onishi is a social commentator, scholar, writer, teacher, coach, and co-host of the Straight White American Jesus (SWAJ) podcast, a religion and politics podcast that focuses on Christian Nationalism in the United States.His writing has been published in the New York Times, LA Review of Books,and Religion & Politics, among other outlets.

In this episode of the Divorcing Religion podcast, Brad shares intimately about his own conversion and deconstruction, as well as his current work highlighting Christian Nationalism in the USA.

Dr. Onishi's most recent book, to be released in 2023, is PREPARING FOR WAR: The Extremist History of White Christian Nationalism - and What Comes Next.
https://bookshop.org/p/books/preparing-for-war-the-extremist-history-of-white-christian-nationalism-and-what-comes-next-bradley-onishi/18548061?ean=9781506482163

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Divorced: Christianity

Dr. Marlene Winell is a psychologist and author of Leaving the Fold: A Guide for Former Fundamentalists and Others Leaving Their Religion. She is a pioneer in the field of religious trauma, having worked in religious recovery for over 30 years, and she originated the term “Religious Trauma Syndrome.”

After I read her book and attended one of her retreats, Dr. Winell became my friend and mentor. She has spoken at each of my Conferences on Religious Trauma, as well as made a guest appearance at the Shameless Sexuality: Life After Purity Culture conference in October of 2022.

In this episode, we discuss the dangers of Christian Nationalism, the fear of Coming Out to religious family members, what happens at her retreats, and more.

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https://www.journeyfree.org/

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Shirley Fessel is a religious domestic abuse survivor advocate with Masters in both Counseling and Education from Wichita State University. Raised Catholic, Shirley married a Baptist minister who suffered from mental illness and abused Shirley and their children. Shirley was eventually able to flee with her children and begin building a safe life for herself with no help or support from her religious community. Putting her counseling and communication expertise to work, Shirley developed the Redemption from Biblical Battering workbook, a self-help workbook for abused women of faith which provides a faith-based path to freedom from spiritual and domestic abuse.

CONTACT SHIRLEY:
https://shirleyfessel.com/
Twitter: @fessup2 and @redemptionbb

To contribute to Shirley’s RBB Thriver financial grant (helping women rebuild their lives after DV), her Venmo is @Shirley-Fessel. Mark donation “Redemption from Biblical Battering.”

Resources mentioned in this episode:
Redemption from Biblical Battering Workbook
https://www.faithtrustinstitute.org/ (Marie Fortune)

If you are suffering from Domestic Violence in the United States, call the National Domestic Violence Hotline at 1-800-799-SAFE (7233) or text “START” to 88788

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Alice Greczyn is an actress, writer, and the founder of Dare to Doubt. Midwest-raised and L.A.-based, the Eurasian performer is best known for her role as Mads Rybak on Freeform’s The Lying Game, and occasionally someone recognizes her from the Twitch-streamed all-girls Dungeons & Dragons group Girls, Guts, Glory. Alice is fascinated by the subjective experience of life which she explores through acting and storytelling. Her own story includes a painful but rewarding transition out of evangelical Christianity, a journey that inspired her to found DaretoDoubt.org, a resource site for people detaching from belief systems they come to find harmful. Encouraging people to trust themselves and live courageously in their own truth is what gives Alice a sense of purpose. She loves hiking, traveling, and pondering answerless questions.

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Dr. Darrel Ray

Divorced: Christianity

In addition to being a successful psychologist and author, Dr. Darrel Ray is also the beloved founder of both Recovering from Religion and the Secular Therapy Project. Today, Dr. Ray gets personal about his own reasons for leaving religion and what gives him hope in the midst of our tumultuous times.

Contact Dr. Ray

www.recoveringfromreligion.org

www.seculartherapy.org

@drdray132

Resources mentioned:

The God Virus: How Religion Infects Our Lives and Culture - https://amzn.to/3x9PAnL

Sex & God: How Religion Distorts Sexuality - https://amzn.to/3Qtl930

Rules for Radicals: A Practical Primer for Realistic Radicals - https://amzn.to/3RqSJI2

Marlene Winell’s Website: www.journeyfree.org

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Seth Andrews is a former evangelical and Christian broadcaster who now hosts The Thinking Atheist…one of the most popular online atheist communities in the world. The Thinking Atheist is not a person. It is an icon encouraging all to reject faith and pursue reason and evidence. Since its launch in 2010, The Thinking Atheist podcast has been downloaded over 50 million times.

Seth has authored five books, including his latest offering, “Christianity Made Me Talk Like an Idiot.”

With a mix of humor and heart, Seth Andrews has spoken for audiences large and small in the U.S, Canada, Europe, and Australia about his former faith, the promotion of science and skepticism, the importance of Humanism in this often crazy world, and why we should all pursue a personal relationship with reality.

https://www.sethandrews.com/

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