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So...What Else?
Welcome to So...What Else? with Kaitlin Elliott! A story-based podcast about our shared human experience. We can all learn from each other’s stories. Everything from the ridiculous and life changing, the heartbreaking and hilarious, the everyday and inspiring. Check out some episodes and let us know what is most helpful, inspiring or flat out hilarious!
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Emily finally caves and starts making sour dough bread. Making peace with the fact that somehow someone is always going to be offended by something. Kaitlin routinely eats food on real plates in the car. Is Emily becoming a tradwife? How to possibly know whats good for you and what is killing you in an era where the is constant conflicting information
Should you be able to use screen time for kids as a tool?
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Kaitlin begins her week with an emergency appendectomy. What started as "it's probably nothing" quickly turned into...well, something.
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At 16, Kaitlin unknowingly ends up on a date with her driving instructor. Scott reallllyyyyy loves motorcycles. Kaitlin reallllllyyyyy does not. Honestly, there's a lot of driving stories in this one so buckle up (hehe).
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Kaitlin and Scott have a heart to heart about all of Kaitlin's burning (pun intended) questions about firefighters, unpack an extremely succesful week of VBS, and talk honestly about what it's like to work together.
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Kaitlin would like to issue a correction: Caroline has, in fact, read Harry Potter. The Puerto Rico Song. A dead body is found in our town. Childhood brawls. A man with one eye hits on Caroline. Emily might be the most useful of the sisters in pretty much any scenario.
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Shannon Popkin is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, and host of the Live Like It’s True podcast. Shannon has spent years helping people engage Scripture in practical ways, and her latest work explores one of the habits that quietly damages our relationships more than we realize: judgment.
In this conversation, we talk about why judgment feels so unavoidable. Why do we feel judged so often? Why are we so quick to judge others? Shannon unpacks the hidden roots of our critical thoughts—from comparison and insecurity to assumptions we don't even realize we're making.
We also wrestle with an important question: Why do Christians sometimes seem especially judgmental? Shannon explains the crucial difference between discernment and judgment, and offers practical ways to replace criticism with curiosity, compassion, and grace.
Kinda Judgy Book: https://amzn.to/4eXye3P
Kinda Judgy Quiz: https://kindajudgy.subscribepage.io/
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Kaitlin opens up about having a full-blown menty B, the joys (and horrors) of potty training, and addresses the hairstylist haters that weighed in on last week's SWEpisode. Meanwhile, Scott learns what might be the most shocking fact he's ever discovered about his own wife (and somehow this information has never come up before?).
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Allison Byxbe is a writer, speaker, and advocate for honest conversations about grief, healing, and faith in the midst of life’s hardest realities.
Allison shares her story of walking through profound loss and heartbreak, including her sister’s stillbirth, her own miscarriage, a difficult genetic diagnosis for her son, and seasons of struggle within her marriage. She opens up about the questions, fears, and grief that accompanied those experiences, and the slow, often messy journey toward healing.
One of the most powerful parts of Allison’s story is the role journaling played along the way. We talk about how putting words to our pain can help us process emotions instead of suppressing them, why reflection is such an important part of healing, and how journaling can create space for God to meet us in our hardest seasons.
Allison's Book: https://amzn.to/4ae7E3U
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Emily and Matt are vindicated about the existance of water table fountains. Is Ariana Grande okay? Is it okay for society to be commenting on women’s bodies if they’re underweight? The 1 tillion different terms for women’s haircuts and styles that hairstylists are absolutely making up. How long is too long to wear an item of clothing before deciding to return it? Kaitlin has a ruin with a librarian. Matt doesn’t understand how libraries work. Does renting everyday clothes make any sense? The Black Tux is the best. Norah faces her first walking related injury (don’t worry, she’s okay…Emily? Not so much). Go Knicks!
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Hanna Seymour is an author, speaker, Bible teacher, and a passionate advocate for helping people experience God in everyday life. Hanna encourages women to let go of perfectionism and embrace simple, sustainable rhythms that deepen their relationship with Jesus.
In this conversation, we talk about why so many Christians carry shame around the idea of having a “quiet time” and how that shame can actually keep us from connecting with God. Hanna shares practical, attainable ways to grow your faith, even in busy seasons, and reminds us that spiritual disciplines were never meant to be another item on our to-do list.
We also discuss a freeing truth: there is nothing we can do to make God love us more. We don’t earn His affection through Bible reading plans, prayer streaks, or perfect spiritual habits. Instead, those practices simply help us draw closer to the God who already loves us completely.
Finally, Hanna unpacks how the science of habit formation can work alongside spiritual growth, helping us create rhythms that are life-giving rather than guilt-inducing. If you've ever felt like you're failing at your faith because you can't seem to "do enough," this conversation is the breath of fresh air you've been looking for.
Hanna’s Website: https://hannaseymour.com/
Everyday Spiritual Habits Book: https://amzn.to/3SarXc3
The Weekly One: https://hannaseymour.com/the-weekly-one
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Kaitlin’s relationship with ChatGPT has become her greatest source of encouragement. Matt and Emily don’t quite understand the workings of a child’s water table toy. Kaitlin is experiencing a slight identity crisis as she’s starting to transition out of the early years of motherhood. Scott and Kaitlin go to their nephew’s wedding in Minnesota..congrats Grant and Lily! New Jersey’s fast-paced hustle culture is exhausting, it might be time to buy a family compound in the middle of nowhere. We tackle some big questions: Can kids see spiritual beings? Should middle schoolers have phones? Is it gross to sleep in the same shirt you wore all day? Slow-summer Kaitlin is beginning to emerge. Scott goes shopping to relieve stress while Kaitlin witnesses a cat viciously murder a chipmunk.
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Erica Ligenza Gwynn is an author, speaker, and writer of That’s Just Not True: How to Replace the Lies You Didn’t Know You Believed with God’s Unchanging Truth.
In this conversation, Erica unpacks the cultural lies that often disguise themselves as empowerment but quietly leave us exhausted, anxious, and stuck. We dive into phrases we hear all the time—“God won’t give me more than I can handle,” “I can do anything,” “My feelings are my truth,” and “I am enough”—and explore why these ideas sound comforting but ultimately fall short.
Erica gently challenges the narratives we’ve absorbed from culture, social media, and even church circles, revealing the deeper truth beneath them and pointing us back to a more grounded, freeing understanding of God and ourselves.
Erica’s Website: https://ericagwynn.com/
That’s Just Not True Book: https://amzn.to/4wKpIML
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Happy Mother’s Day SWEople! OLIPOP is a life changer. Caroline helps Kaitlin navigate a grocery store. Is Taco Bell like sort of healthy now? Fast food is staring to grow on Kaitlin. Scott has exactly no functioning legs, oh and may also have a parasite. Emily is the slowest walker of all time. Kaitlin decides to be the fun parent for a night. Parenting when your spouse is traveling is hard. For the first time ever, Emily takes interior design inspiration from Kaitlin.
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Jennifer Dukes Lee is an author, speaker, and expert in helping people create rhythms that actually work in real life, not just in theory.
In this episode, Jennifer makes the bold claim that everyone is a morning person, you just haven’t discovered your style yet. We talk about identifying your unique “archetype” and how understanding it can completely change the way you start your day. She also breaks down the difference between routine and ritual, and why one feels like a chore while the other actually brings life.
We dive into the very real struggle of revenge bedtime procrastination (aka staying up way too late just to reclaim your time), and how to shift your habits without adding more pressure.
At the core of the conversation is this simple but powerful idea: it’s not about when you wake up, it’s about who you wake up to be.
How to Love Your Morning: https://amzn.to/4ur1SUg
Jennifer’s Website: https://jenniferdukeslee.com/
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Scott has not one, but two, pulled hamstrings. Norah walks for the first time, but like sort of. The saga of Donald The Cat continues. Kaitlin's Spotify is unhinged. If men have good personalities but aren’t attractive women are still attracted to them, but the same isn’t necessarily true for women. Kaitlin's worst nightmare comes true at the library. Matt tries to make an intelluctual point, but Emily immediately shuts him down. Do women actually have stronger pain tolerance than men? What's up with celebrities and DUIs?
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It's an Elliotts only episoooddeeeee!
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Scott hates backwards hats and potentially gets questionable LASIK surgery. Kaitlin overcomes an addiction to allergy medication. Emily and Kaitlin double down on their moon landing skepticism, which spirals into flat earth theories and, somehow, glitter company conspiracies.
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Kaitlin finds her perfect pair of sunglasses despite everyone else's opinion. Minivans are elite. Keanu Reeves might be the nicest human alive. We casually dip our toes into conspiracy theories. Does worship music actually manipulate your emotions? Everyone shares their green flags (for once, some positive self-talk).
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Britt Frank is a licensed neuropsychotherapist, speaker, and author known for making complex mental health concepts actually make sense. Through her work, Britt helps people understand their minds and nervous systems in a way that’s practical, empowering, and free of shame.
In this episode, we cover a lot of ground. Britt reframes anxiety as a potential superpower, breaks down how trauma shapes us, and explains why our self-talk matters...maybe even more than we think. We also dive into the nervous system and how that connects to things like the two (yes, two) types of procrastination.
We talk about the difference between emotionally skilled and unskilled families, how those patterns follow us into adulthood, and what it looks like to stop the cycle of emotional regression. It’s insightful, practical, and might just change the way you understand yourself.
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Align Your Mind: https://amzn.to/4bGvkPj
The Science of Stuck: https://amzn.to/4unSamp
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Emily finds months’ worth of missing lip products buried deep in the couch. Mysterious glowing orbs set off the alarms at Matt’s work, completely derail Kaitlin’s week, and leave the entire SWE team questioning reality (ghosts? government? the afterlife? all of the above?).
Kaitlin’s face-brushing journey fails, Matt and Emily’s dishwasher and oven both die, and the comforting reality that all of our food is killing us. Kaitlin turns down a potential interview guest for the first time ever. Then Caroline and Hannah call in and everyone shares what their biggest first-date red flag would be.
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Dr. Mikala Albertson is a board-certified family practice physician, author, and passionate advocate for women’s health. She’s known for helping women care for the imperfect bodies we actually live in while navigating the ordinary lives we’re actually living.
In her new book, Everything I Wish I Could Tell You About Midlife: A Woman’s Guide to Health in the Body You Actually Have, Mikala shares both scientific insight and personal stories to help women better understand what’s happening in their bodies during midlife, from perimenopause and hormones to ADHD, stress, supplements, and the overwhelming amount of health advice women are constantly given.
We also talk about the surprising wisdom of the Serenity Prayer and what it looks like to radically accept the things about ourselves we cannot change while still caring well for our bodies.
Everything I Wish I Could Tell You About Midlife: https://amzn.to/3MxL8dH
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Mikala’s Podcast: Real (Mid)Life: https://www.mikalaalbertsonmd.com/real-midlife-podcast
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Kaitlin turns 37. Parker turns 3. Kaitlin goes to the spa and her foot falls off. She’s also considering a mushroom coffee journey and would like reviews before committing. Lifetime Fitness is incredible. Kaitlin starts doing Peloton workouts. Scott starts working out...and is considering snowboarding for the first time in forever.
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Natalie Runion is the founder of Raised to Stay, author, worship leader, and pastor’s kid turned pastor. After watching people she loved walk away from the church, Natalie began writing about her own wrestling with faith and church hurt. What started as personal reflection grew into a global community committed to staying with Jesus while pursuing healing and restoration within the Church.
In this episode, we talk about why it can feel so difficult for women to find true, sacred sisterhood. Why does gossip creep in so easily? Why does jealousy divide us? Why are strong female leaders often labeled “controlling”? And why do working moms and stay-at-home moms sometimes turn on each other instead of linking arms? Natalie speaks candidly about the cultural and church dynamics that fracture women’s relationships and what it takes to build genuine, life-giving friendships instead.
I Don’t Even Like Women: https://amzn.to/46rJnVS
Raised to Stay: https://amzn.to/46t6G1w
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Kaitlin and Scott, Emily and Matt share their couple origin stories in honor of Valentine's Day. It’s v cute. We unpack the Olympic cheater. Lindsey Vonn (is not the Olympic cheater). The human grass during Bad Bunny’s halftime show. Matt turns another year older. We realize we now relate more to the parents of professional athletes than the athletes themselves. Organized sports? Apparently bad now. Parenting content on Instagram is ruining everything. Are Kaitlin and Scott having vasectomy regrets? Happy Thanksgiving!
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The one, the only, Ginna Claire Mason Moffet joins the pod this week. Ginna Claire is a dear friend and actress. You may know her as Glinda from Broadway's Wicked or as a Hallmark movie favorite.
We talk about how her early love of performing shaped the path that led her to Broadway, and what it’s like stepping into such an iconic role. She also shares behind-the-scenes insight from her work in Hallmark films and the realities of balancing a demanding career with real life. Most meaningfully, how she stays grounded, prioritizes connection, and makes intentional space for her marriage in the middle of a full schedule.
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Kaitlin gets reprimanded by a referee. Lindsey Vonn is so old. A new "fan" requests more bare feet on the pod. Scott buys a smart humidifier to heal his cracked lips in the morning. We debate cuss vs. curse vs. swear. Kaitlin’s miraculous dermatologist appointment. RIP Catherine O'Hara...an icon.
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Hannah and Caroline make their B-Team on-camera debut and recap their harrowing journey to recover Caroline's repossessed (cough...stolen...cough) car. Also, Scott and Kaitlin are on a home redecorating adventure and Caroline is launching a Twitch account.
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Scott ruins Kaitlin’s post Christmas joy by trying to be helpful. Emily thinks she’s gotten “lenient” about her home standards. Kaitlin is on a fluoride-free journey, but probably not for the reasons you think. Scott survives a life-altering procedure while Kaitlin heroically assumes the role of “caretaker” and makes sure everyone knows it. Jag-wire. Kaitlin and Scott narrowly miss a pileup caused by a rogue mattress. Also, why are men treated like delicate children in healthcare? Kaitlin had 3 babies!!
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Kaitlin and Scott chat alone this week and they absolutely, 100%, definitely do not talk about New Year’s resolutions. It’s no secret, Kaitlin hates New Year’s resolutions…she publicly denounces them. So they most definitely do not come up....or do they? Welcome to 2026 SWEople!
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Catherine Renfro is an author, pastor’s wife, mom, and the National Director of Women’s Evangelism at the North American Mission Board. Catherine is the author of Hope, Hurt, and Healing: Experiencing Jesus in the Wake of Suicide, a book born out of profound loss.
Catherine shares the story of losing her brother to suicide and invites us into the aftermath—the grief and the questions she wrestled with. She speaks honestly about questioning God and navigating the long road toward healing.
Catherine has used her story to help others who are walking through similar loss. She walks us through how to better show up for friends and loved ones grieving the death of someone they love. This is a hope-filled conversation for anyone who has experienced lossand carries unanswered questions.
Catherine's Book, Hope, Hurt, and Healing: https://amzn.to/4hQ0jKf
Catherine’s Website: https://www.catherinerenfro.com/
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Follow the Chicola sisters on what should've been a normal evening for concert-going Jonas Brothers fans...but spiraled into a night of wreckless decisions, magical elves, and nearly being mauled by an angry mob.
Godspeed, SWEople.
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Kevan Chandler is an author, speaker, and the voice behind We Carry Kevan and The Hospitality of Need. Kevan lives with muscular atrophy, a rare neuromuscular disease. Through his writing and storytelling he invites people into a countercultural way of seeing need, dependence, and community, not as weakness, but as gift.
Kevan shares his story of growing up with muscular atrophy and how, over time, he’s learned that serving others and being served are not opposites—they’re intertwined. We talk about how our needs can become doorways into deeper relationships, the difference between simply asking for help and intentionally inviting people into our need, and how it’s possible to give and receive at the same time.
This conversation is thoughtful, challenging, and a reminder that vulnerability around our needs can lead to deeper connection with others.
The Hospitality of Need
We Carry Kevan (Book)
We Carry Kevan Organization
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Matt and Emily return from Disney World, and pick up the flu on the way home. Kaitlin, Emily, and Caroline are moments away from seeing the Jonas Brothers. Emily watches the entirety of the Jonas Brothers yule log. Matt and Emily are attempting Christmas cards for the first time this year. The price stamps has gotten completely out of control.
Christian YouTube videos are convincing children that they’ll shrink if they forget to pray. Kaitlin develops an aggressive case of the hiccups. Jayce’s music class learns to play the “air recorder.” Kaitlin is glowing and beaming on her latest thyroid journey. Everyone goes off on the American healthcare system and the scam that is health insurance. After much deliberation, Kaitlin and Emily decide it's best to not get Botox…maybe.
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Melanie Shankle is a four-time New York Times bestselling author, speaker, and co-host of The Big Boo podcast. Known for blending humor with heartfelt honesty, Melanie has built a career on finding the holy in the everyday and inviting others to do the same.
Melanie opens up about her deeply complicated relationship with her mother and the ripple effects that shaped her own story. She shares how she had to confront her trauma head-on, not just to heal herself, but to become the steady, loving mother her daughter needed.
We also talk about walking with her daughter Caroline through the emotionally challenging times of high school, and what it looks like to parent with empathy.
Here Be Dragons: https://amzn.to/4a7UV3c
Melanie’s Website: https://thebigmamablog.com/
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The flu has officially taken down the entire Carpenter household, which means this week you’re blessed with the presence of youngest Chicola sister and Lorax fashion icon, Caroline. The topic of conversation? Food, food, and more food, followed by an interpretive children's book reading by Caroline. Hope everyone had a wonderful Thanksgiving!
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Amy Duggar King is an author, entrepreneur, and television personality from TLC's 19 Kids and Counting. She grew up side-by-side with the Duggars, spent years inside the world the public only saw on TV, and has since become a bold advocate for healing, truth-telling, and breaking generational cycles.
We dive into Amy's book, Holy Disruptor, where she reveals the secrets, manipulation, and gaslighting she endured inside the Duggar world and in her own home. She talks honestly about being labeled “Crazy Cousin Amy,” the trauma she carried off-camera, and what it took to finally step into freedom.
Amy opens up about her relationship with her grandfather, an emotionally abusive father, and what life was really like on the show. She shares what it was like to live through the fallout of her cousin Josh’s scandals and arrest, the pressure to stay silent, and the cost of finally using her own voice.
Most powerfully, Amy shares how she has held onto Jesus through everything. How she rebuilt her faith after being hurt by Christians, and why disrupting deception can be a deeply holy act.
Holy Disruptor: https://amzn.to/48eynwu
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Scott is sick...yet again. Life in Panther Valley? A nightmare. Last week we lost power. This week we lost water. Thankfully, Scott's inner doomsday prepper finally pays off.
A mail truck spontaneously combusts, but don't worry...the mail was saved. Kaitlin becomes the unhinged soccer parent she always dumps on. Caroline's unconventional Halloween costumes.
Air traffic control to Major Tom. Emily receives a special gift. Matt and Scott bring down the vibes with terrible ways to die.
PHILADELPHIAAAAA
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Niki Hardy is a writer and speaker, and if you’ve ever wrestled with doubt, disappointment, or the feeling that God didn’t show up in the way you hoped, this conversation is for you.
Niki has studyied at Oxford, moved from England to North Carolina to plant a church, lead mission trips, and authored multiple books including Breathe Again, One Minute Prayers for Women with Cancer, and her latest God, Can We Chat? But the deepest lessons she’s learned came from clinging to Jesus when everything seemed upside down.
We talk about why your doubts don’t have to be the executioner of your faith, and why deconstruction doesn’t have to lead to deconversion. Niki shares how God actually welcomes our honest questions, why we don’t have to pretend we’re “fine,” and what to do when you feel like God has failed you. She also teaches a simple framework for having real, honest conversations with God: how to CHAT with Him in a way that brings connection instead of shame.
You don’t have to have it all figured out to belong. God meets us in the questions.
Watch HERE on Youtube!
Niki’s Website
God, Can We Chat?
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Kaitlin's hairdresser declares her best hair to blowout. Emily discovers she is severly under-tipping her hairdresser. Kaitlin lives her best Halloween life, without the rest of her family. Scott manages to receive death threats and make lifelong friendships on Facebook Marketplace. A discussion on marital duty imbalance. Beef tallow may have the power to turn trees into seeds. Kaitlin believes she’s finally won a parenting battle...turns out there was a secret hero.
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Jamie Erickson is an author, speaker, podcaster, and the voice behind The Unlikely Homeschool and Mom to Mom Podcast. Jamie joins us to talk about her brand-new book Overwhelmed Mom: Quiet the Chaos, Mind What Matters, and Enjoy Your Life Again.
We unpack the two types of moms our culture celebrates, how overwhelm can sometimes be a choice, and why the way we narrate our lives matters more than we think. Jamie shares how to actually live in the season you’re in, practical steps to feel less overwhelmed today, and how to rediscover joy right where you are.
If your brain feels like it consistently has 87 tabs open, this conversation is your permission to slow down, refocus, and breathe again.
Jamie’s Website
Overwhelmed Mom
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Baby Norah makes her video podcast debut. The power of athlete’s foot (cream). The Nick Cannon saga continues. Introducing….Frantic-Fall-Kaitlin: she goes head-to-head with unhinged little league soccer parents; ruins a perfectly good game of frisbee golf; and barely survives a 20-minute power outage with Emily. And apparently, she was a “captain” of her softball team?
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Caroline Shankle is an author, speaker, and student at Texas A&M University pursuing a Master’s degree in Agriculture. Her debut devotional, The Lion and the Bearl launches tomorrow (October 14th)! Written for teen girls, this 100-day guide helps readers face their giants with courage, faith, and perspective.
Caroline shares the story behind the book’s powerful message—how her dad would remind her, during friendship fallouts or heartbreak, that David fought lions and bears before he ever faced Goliath. Every hardship prepares you for what’s next, and Caroline’s words are an inspiring reminder that nothing we go through is wasted.
It’s an encouraging and heartfelt conversation about faith, purpose, and learning to see your current battles as the training ground for future victories.
Caroline’s Website
Caroline’s Book → The Lion and the Bear
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It's a Chicola sisters episooooddeeeeeeee! Gilmore Girls. Sea creatures. National Daughter's Day. Prehistoric creatures. Jayce and Emerson's failed sleepover at Caroline's. Aliens. Emily's hair journey. More creatures. It's everything you would expect.
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Dr. Heather Thompson Day is a speaker, bestselling author, podcaster, and founder of It Is Day Ministries. Heather has spent nearly 15 years teaching communication and now equips churches and leaders with her gospel-centered approach to “Cross Communication”—pointing people higher, to the cross, every time they speak. You’ve probably seen her writing in outlets like Christianity Today, Newsweek, or even on the Today Show, and her latest podcast What If I’m Wrong? launched in the top 200 Christian podcasts.
In this conversation, Heather brings both wisdom and vulnerability as we unpack what it means to live with passion (the word literally means “to suffer”). She challenges us to see passion not as chasing applause, but as pursuing what we can’t help but do even when no one is clapping. Heather also opens up about navigating her faith through her father’s Alzheimer’s diagnosis, and reminds us that our circumstances never determine God’s presence.
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Kaitlin and Scott are over sending Christmas cards, while Emily and Matt may need to start. Holiday stress is beginning to creep in. We’ve got an update on Donald the Cat—the town legend who’s been missing for five years. Kaitlin has a mysterious leg twitch. Katilin and Scott make a regrettable mattress purchase. Then again, Scott regrets everything he buys.
Are $1 homes in Italy worth it? "No turn on red” is the dumbest law. Matt strikes a nerve with Emily during a recent Target run. And how is it possible that Matt and Emily keep experiencing more fireworks near their homes than anyone else on the planet?
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Rebecca George is an author, speaker, coach, and founder of Radical Radiance, a podcast community equipping women to blend what they love with the Jesus who makes them shine. Rebecca’s newest book, You’re Not Too Late: Trusting God’s Timing in a Hurry Up World, tackles the struggles we all face with waiting, longing, and learning to trust God when His timeline doesn’t match ours.
We talk about the ache of unfulfilled longing; how to want deeply without letting it consume you, and how to walk through waiting seasons without bitterness or despair. Rebecca also shares her own rhythms of trust, hope, and faith in the “not yet.”
It’s an honest, encouraging conversation for anyone who’s ever wondered if their chance has already passed, or if God is still at work in the waiting.
You’re Not Too Late Book
Rebecca’s Website
Rebecca’s Podcast
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200 episodes later and here we are...finally a video podcast! Because apparently hearing us just isn't enough. Massive, massive thank you to everyone who’s been along for the ride. Whether you’ve been here since the beginning or just stumbled in last week, you make this whole thing possible. Here’s to 200 more!
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Scott and Kaitlin’s nephew, Connor, and his wife, Shelby, are in town all the way from Colorado and officially step in as this week’s honorary “C-Team.” (Of course the “C” stands for Colorado and Connor and Shelby.) Things kick off lighthearted with Connor’s confession about nearly drowning Kaitlin (accidentally… or so he claims) and a round of hard-hitting “would you rather” questions. Connor and Shelby also share openly about the miscarriage they experienced earlier this year and the hope and healing they’ve found in the midst of grief.
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This week it’s just Kaitlin...no co-hosts, just Kaitlin doing what she does best for her first ever solo episode. Take a step inside her inner monologue as she processes life outloud.
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Kaitlin’s painfully slow highway driving has become a public safety hazard. Plus, she discovers she is completely unable to accurately tell a story without over-exaggerating the details. Scott reveals he doesn’t need to wash his face (like…never), we weigh in on the ethics of peeing in the shower, and Cousin Suzy encounters a tragically dark omen. Emily abandons Norah at the first whiff of danger, Emerson’s patriotism is dangerously blurring with her theology, and Jayce pays a visit to Dr. Barbie.
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It’s an Elliott’s-only week, and things kick off a little spicy. Kaitlin is zero help with podcast setup and somehow believes she’s a better driver than Scott.
But most of this episode dives deeper into Kaitlin’s journey with her spiritual director and the practice of slow spirituality. It’s honest, vulnerable, and yes...there are tears.
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Matt and Emily had quite the week. Norah got her first cold (all thanks to her father) which led to their first ever adventure in rectal thermometers. Plus, they go into full wildlife rescue mode when a bird gets trapped in their fireplace.
Kaitlin and Scott wrap up a week of VBS (Vacation Bible School), which was a total win. Shoutout to the army of volunteers that went above and beyond to make it such a good experience for all of the kiddos!
Scott’s physical appearance is thriving…glowing, even…possibly hotter than ever? Plus, we talk about the return of nostalgic '90s summer vibes. We also dive into the Shiny Happy People documentary and talk honestly about abusive church/institutional cultures.
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Samantha Decker is a wife, mom of four, Bible teacher, and author of the new book Unhurried: An Invitation to Slow Down, Create Margin, and Surrender Control to God. Samantha’s on a mission to help us rediscover the sacred rhythms of rest, space, and spiritual stillness.
We explore why margin is essential. Samantha walks us through the power of solitude and how leaning into your spiritual gifts can help you press pause on the chaos. We discuss what it really means to surrender control to God, and she shares practical strategies for building a schedule that leaves room for grace.
If you've ever felt like your calendar is running your life, or wondered how to make quieter spaces in your soul, this one's for you.
Unhurried
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The audio files from last week’s SWEpisode vanished into the abyss (not Matt’s fault…cough cough), so the B-Team (Caroline and Josh) is here to save the day. We talk first jobs—Scott’s lasted about five minutes, and apparently Kaitlin was once a barista? Josh takes us back to his roots growing up on a farm in West-West Jersey where his parents owned a Christian bookstore.
Kaitlin cries on a beach (you’ll find out why), and is experimenting with a slow summer. We explore the philosophical conundrum of renovating a bathroom. Is Emerson channeling the spirit of Donald Trump? Plus, Kaitlin almost became a famous actress and Caroline’s on a journey toward becoming a comedian.
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Arlene Pellicane is an author, speaker, and host of The Happy Home Podcast. She’s here to talk all things marriage, connection, and making love last.
Arlene shares wisdom from her new book, Making Marriage Easier: How to Love (and Like) Your Spouse for Life, and walks us through the four key decisions that have helped her build a strong, joyful relationship. We talk about why kids are important…but not all-important. How to be a truly good listener (and avoid the three annoying listener types), and how social media might be doing more harm than help in your marriage.
She opens up about navigating the hard seasons and what it looks like to stick together when life gets messy. Whether you're newly married or decades in, this one is packed with insight and encouragement.
Making Marriage Easier
Making Marriage Easier Website
Happy Home University
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Kaitlin Kool-Aid Man’s straight through a closet door minutes after our last recording. Costco: the happiest place on earth...until you check your bank account. Scott somehow accidentally sleeps under the fitted sheet. We debate the best crappy pizza. Kaitlin and Scott buy donuts for their soccer team, only for the other team to shamelessly steal them. Rude.
Emily is too busy to put her credit cards in the wallet slots. Things get heated over Matt’s complete and utter lack of sense of urgency. Kaitlin “loses” her keys, but Scott heroically saves the day. And, the mom’s group at church pulls off an elaborate sinful prank by tricking (lying and deceiving) all the husbands into wearing the same shirt. Scott is hilariously oblivious. Emily? Can’t keep a secret and caves immediately.
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Hallie Dye is a wife, mom, host of The Saltworks Podcast, and author of You’re Still a Good Mom: Motherhood Surrendered to the ONE Who Never Fails (Even When You Feel You Have).
She's here to talk about some heavy, but extremely relatable mom stuff: like mom guilt, the lies we believe about ourselves, and what it feels like when you’re just not the “fun mom.”
Hallie shares powerful insight on those mundane, soul-crushing days that feel anything but meaningful, and reminds us that our limits aren’t flaws… they’re intentional.
We talk about what it means to abide and keep showing up even when it feels like we’re failing.
This one’s for the moms, dads, and really anyone who is feeling tired, unsure, and wondering if you're doing any of it right.
You’re Still a Good Mom
The Saltworks Podcast
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Kaitlin makes a bold financial call…peanut butter is officially cut from the budget. We get nostalgic about old-school church hymns and ruin a big SWE secret. Kaitlin opens up about her phobia of jelly. CHICK-FIL-A SAUCE. Kaitlin discovers Scott’s hoarder closet, but Scott comes prepared with a defense. Emily needs a step stool to get into bed. Kaitlin tries (and fails) to understand tax write-offs. We rank our favorite haircuts and play a round of “What movie character would you be?” Somehow Kaitlin lands on…well, you’ll see.
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Rachel Taylor is a postpartum nurse, doula, author, and founder of Mama Did It™. Her new book, After Baby Comes: Physical, Spiritual, and Emotional Recovery for Postpartum Moms, tackles everything no one warned you about: how to set boundaries when everyone suddenly wants to “stop by,” what you really need to know before leaving the hospital, why “mommy brain” is legit, and how to tell if it’s baby blues or something more.
We even wade into the murky waters of postpartum sex...because it’s not just about physical healing, it’s about emotional readiness too.
Whether you're in the thick of it, on the other side, or just want to be a better support to the moms in your life, this one is full of truth, insight, and “thank you for saying that” moments.
Rachel’s Book → After Baby Comes
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Jayce Elliott takes over the pod this week. Emily is crowned the breastfeeding Queen. Matt’s shopping algorithm is on point and maybe knows him a little too well.
Kaitlin and Matt debrief their passport renewal journies (spoiler: it’s a mess). Are Slurpees and slushies the same thing? And Emily educates us about Happy Tail Syndrome.
Pure chaos, minor enlightenment...just the way we like it.
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Nicole Zasowski is an author and licensed marriage and family therapist (and returning favorite to the pod!) and she's here to talk about her brand-new Bible study, Daring Joy: What Six Women in the Bible Teach Us About the Power of Celebration When it Feels Risky, Complicated, and Even Impossible.
We dig into the question: how do we hold on to real joy when life feels anything but light? Nicole shares why joy can feel like such a vulnerable experience, how her work in Restoration Therapy shapes her perspective, and why it’s often easier to sit with someone in their suffering than in their celebration.
It’s honest, hopeful, and exactly the conversation we all need this week.
June 2022 Interview with Nicole
Daring Joy
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Baby Norah has finally arrived! Matt and Emily recount all the wild, emotional, and chaotic details of Baby Norah’s grand entrance into the world. Plus, Norah makes her podcast debut by contributing some of her own sound effects to the story. Welcome to the SWE chaos, baby girl.
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Author and speaker Amber Lia joins us to talk about her brand-new devotional, Untriggered: 60 Days of Transformation for Moms Who Struggle With Anger. Amber gets real about what it looks like to parent with grace, even when your kids are driving you crazy.
We dive into the sometimes-controversial term "gentle parenting"—why it’s often misunderstood, and why it doesn’t mean being a doormat. Amber also shares practical tools for staying calm when you’re feeling triggered, how to ditch the comparison trap, and why our kids don’t need perfect parents...because there's no such thing.
This one is full of encouragement, wisdom, and the kind of honesty we all need more of in the trenches of parenthood.
Untriggered
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Emily and Matt just had their baby so they’re busy trying to figure out how to keep a tiny human alive. That means it’s date night pod night for Kaitlin and Scott and they discuss very normal topics like: Is Chat GPT a man or woman? Does brushing a toddler’s hair backward make it thicker? Why are ski lifts not regulated? Plus, Scott has a mental breakdown about toothpaste. Enjoy!
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Caroline's back and she's better than ever! Everyone's favorite other sister returns and we cover everything from the orthodontist to voicemails to Kaitlin’s childhood anxiety to walking pads at work to kebabs and the gym. It’s unhinged and slightly therapeutic...it's Caroline.
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Kaitlin finds a tick on her moments before we hit record. Unsurprisingly it wasn’t the only traumatic insect incident of the week. Scott installs a bougie outdoor warm water faucet. We talk about the new Netflix show Adolescence (it’s amazing—go watch it), and we check in on Emily’s pregnancy. Anxiously waiting for labor to ensue is its own special kind of torture.
Also: Emily and Matt finally get window shades (they’re gorgeous but functionally…less than ideal), Emily reveals she doesn't understand attics, Scott has a week from hell, and Kaitlin is using a mildly disgusting product to make her feet soft.
Classic SWEpisode.
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Sheila Wray Gregoire is back...for the third time (making SWE history)! A speaker, author, and podcast host, Sheila challenges outdated ideas and offers fresh, research-backed perspectives on what makes a marriage truly thrive. She's here to chat about her new book, The Marriage You Want: Moving Beyond Stereotypes for a Relationship Built on Scripture, New Data, and Emotional Health. We also tackle:
- Gender stereotypes—why they persist and how to break free
- Entitlement in marriage—what it looks like and how to shift the mindset
- The division of household labor—because it should be about sharing the load
- The mental load—who’s really carrying it, and why it matters
If you’ve ever questioned the pervasive myths about what makes a happy marriage, this episode is for you!
The Marriage You Want
Bare Marriage
Sheila’s Podcast
Sheila on Episode 110
Sheila on Episode 55
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Emily is mere moments away from giving birth. Kaitlin gives Emily a breast pump tutorial. Meanwhile, the sinkhole saga is escalating.
We also tackle some very important topics:
- Why are all Jr.’s men?
- Kaitlin’s 42 potential Easter outfits
- The Diet Coke debate—people have opinions.
- Even the tooth fairy is being impacted by inflation.
- Food conspiracies…what is even good for you anymore?
- Men are flocking to Suzy’s hair.
Plus, we dive into some listener questions. Enjoy, friends!
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Writer, podcaster, and resident Bible scholar, Erin Hicks Moon, joins us for a fun, honest, and thoughtful conversation about faith, doubt, and asking big questions. Erin is the author of the Substack newsletter The Swipe Up, where she tackles God, faith, and American Christianity. She's the Resident Bible Scholar on the Faith Adjacent podcast as well as the Senior Creative at The Popcast Media Group.
We’re diving into her new book, I’ve Got Questions: The Spiritual Practice of Having It Out with God, and talking about:
- Deconstructing faith without losing it entirely
- Lament as a spiritual practice
- Jesus doesn’t just love us—He likes us
- The uncomfortable truth that we’re all wrong about something when it comes to faith
If you grew up in evangelical Christianity and find yourself wrestling with questions, this episode is for you. It’s thoughtful, funny, and hopefully, maybe even a little healing.
Erin’s Book → I’ve Got Questions
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Erin’s Podcast → Faith Adjacent
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Emily is beyond pregnant. Walkie-talkies are being under-utilized. Baby Carpenter makes an “appearance.” Big Yellowstone discussion, so if you haven’t seen it…you’ve been warned. Does anyone else call butts, “coolies”? Follow up on the facial journey. Matt’s toe still hasn’t fully healed and still looks like a disaster. Scott finally sees an ENT for his 117-day cough (and takes it like a champ). Penelope (the dog) might just be the loudest snorer in history. Kaitlin has full-blown diarrhea of the mouth.Should we be saying photo poop instead of photo dump?
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Justin and Trisha Davis, founders of RefineUs Ministries, are here for a powerful and honest conversation about rebuilding trust, breaking unhealthy cycles, and creating deeper connection in our most valued relationships. As authors, teachers, and coaches, their mission is to help people walk in truth and healing—and their personal story is a testament to that mission.
In this episode, Justin and Trisha share their journey of reconciliation after infidelity, the impact of discovering identity-altering truths about their fathers, and Justin’s path to healing from childhood trauma. We also dive into the power of forgiveness, and why truth-telling—though difficult—is the key to true transformation.
Plus, their brand-new book, One Choice Away from Change: Break the Cycles That Hurt Your Relationships and Hold You Back, releases TOMORROW, March 4th! They give us a preview of the life-changing principles inside.
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Justin and Trisha’s Podcast: Let’s Get Real
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If you've spent any amount of time listening to SWE, you've heard us talk about Scott and Kaitlin's nephew, Garrett DeClue–player in the Savanna Banana's baseball league and woodsman extraordinaire. Well, Garrett is here, and as they do, things spiral fast!
Kaitlin celebrates her birthday with a very painful facial. Emily has a baby shower, and still hasn't changed her last name. We deep dive on skincare and how much self-care is too much self-care. Scott may or may not get his haircut at Walmart. Garrett introduces us to Mr. Pierce, a mysterious man who mows his lawn. And Emily is diabete free! Woo!
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Dina Deleasa Gonsar is an author, speaker, TV personality, and the creator of DishItGirl. You know her from Good Morning America, Fox News, E! News, Married to Jonas, or her podcast She Lives Fearless—but today, Dina Deleasa Gonsar is pulling up a chair to get real about life beyond the kitchen.
We talk about her journey through postpartum depression, her battle with thyroid cancer, and how both experiences shaped her perspective on life and faith. We also dive into her new cookbook, At the Kitchen Sink: Recipes to Fill Your Table, Words to Fill Your Heart. It's so much more than a collection of comforting recipes—it's a journey of inspirational stories and encouragement, celebrating the joy of gathering, cooking, and finding meaning in everyday moments.
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Dina’s Website | DishItGirl
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It’s SWE’s birthday, and—shocker—we forgot…again. Emily takes a gestational diabetes test and promptly throws it up all over the parking lot. Matt and Emily are deeply immersed in Yellowstone, and everyone agrees Wicked was a hit.
Kaitlin’s life has been completely transformed by sleeping with earplugs. Emily consistently vetoes Scott’s décor ideas. Kaitlin values Emily’s opinion more than her husband’s.
Kaitlin and Scott can’t stop chatting up strangers, while Matt and Emily are perfecting the art of avoiding human interaction. And Emily now wants to adopt a dog with no eyes. So yeah, just another totally normal episode.
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This week, it's an honor to welcome a dear friend, Brook Outland Bryant. Brook works with Safe Families, an organization that seeks to keep kids safe and families together. We dive into her journey of blending a family through marriage, adopting two boys internationally and a son domestically, and, most poignantly, the birth and loss of her daughter Blakely. Born with Hypoplastic Left Heart Syndrome, Blakely spent almost a year in the hospital before she went home to be with the Lord. Brook's story is one of resilience and hope despite heartbreaking loss.
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Kaitlin and Scott hold down the SWEpisode fort this week as a stomach bug invades the Elliott household. They chat about grown-up things like microwave covers and saving money, and Kaitlin meets with a spiritual director.
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Emily Holthaus is the founder of Raising Little Millionaires, an organization dedicated to helping parents raise financially confident kids. We dive into practical tips like teaching kids about budgeting, navigating the tricky topic of allowances, and answering the age-old question: Should you gift your kid a car? Plus, we’re breaking down how to help kids figure out what really matters when it comes to money and how to instill a spirit of generosity from a young age.
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Raising Little Millionaires E-Book
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This week, the B-team takes over! Imposters, Caroline and Josh, crash this week’s SWEpisode in Emily and Matt’s absence and bring their own brand of chaos.
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New year, same chaos. Welcome to 2025, SWEople! Kaitlin gets a new phone and promptly forgets how phones even work. “Chip it!”—don’t worry, that’ll make sense later.
Meanwhile, Route 80 East literally falls into the earth, trapping us in Western Jersey. And what does one do when stuck in traffic and desperately needs to pee? Post-Christmas, we’ve officially declared the sibling gift exchange dumb and are finally switching it up.
Plus, Kaitlin and Scott fight over Boxbollen. Emily and Matt get heated over window shades, and have the “luckiest” adventure of all time at CarMax.
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This week, we’re thrilled to bring you Part 2 of our conversation with Donna-Jean Breckenridge. If you enjoyed Donna-Jean's story in Part 1, you won’t want to miss Part 2, where we dive deep into the world of homeschooling!
Donna-Jean shares her passion for education, offering insight into common questions like: Can homeschooled children get enough social interaction? How can parents ensure their kids are learning everything they need? What are the unique benefits of the homeschooling lifestyle?
We also explore the timeless philosophy of Charlotte Mason and how it shaped the curriculum Donna-Jean co-created: Ambleside Online, a free resource empowering families to provide a rich and meaningful education at home.
Whether you’re a seasoned homeschooler, just curious, or somewhere in between, this episode is packed with inspiration and practical advice!
Ambleside Online
Six Voices, One Story: The Heart of Ambleside Online
The Country of Ours
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This week, we’re bringing you Part 1 of an incredible two-part conversation with Donna-Jean Breckenridge. Her story was so inspiring and rich with insight that we couldn’t fit it all into one episode!
Donna-Jean is a mom, grandmother, widow, author, speaker, and co-founder of Ambleside Online—a free Charlotte Mason-based homeschool curriculum. In this episode, she opens up about her life, sharing her struggles with infertility, the joy and challenges of adoption, the profound grief of losing her husband, and the heartbreak of losing her son-in-law.
Through it all, Donna-Jean’s resilience, faith, and wisdom shine as she reflects on finding hope in the midst of loss. Don’t forget to come back next week for Part 2, where she shares her passion for homeschooling and how Ambleside Online came to life!
Six Voices, One Story: The Heart of Ambleside Online
This Country of Ours
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Scott manages to order a lifetime supply of Fabletics apparel. Kaitlin orders her own not-so-secret Santa gift from Matt and ships it to the wrong address. But shoutout to Theo from DSW for saving the day. Emily’s henna brows are failing. What’s up with all the Christmas skeletons on people’s lawns? Matt calls Emily passive-aggressive…yikes. Kaitlin thinks no-wheel drive is a thing. Eggnog…what the heck is it? Do SWEpisodes ever cause fights when we stop recording?
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They’re back! The Chicola Sisters come in clutch this week to dish on life’s most pressing topics: Emily's brand new eyebrows, favorite childhood Christmas movies, and Caroline's complete lack of skill for baking sourdough bread. But it wouldn’t be a Sisters episode without some sibling spice—Caroline spills the tea on childhood trauma caused by Kaitlin.
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Emily fainted. Scott gets the most ill anyone has ever been. (We’re so healthy.) Kaitlin gets a big pay day from selling her clothes. Why do some people put absolutely no effort into their Christmas lights? The Elliott family takes the leap into Christmas cards. Let’s bring back church directories!!
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In this episode, I sit down with Brenda Yoder, licensed counselor, speaker, educator, and author of Uncomplicated: Simple Secrets for a Compelling Life. Brenda shares insights from her Mennonite upbringing, offering timeless lessons from Amish and Mennonite values, including resourcefulness, folk knowledge, and cultivating contentment. We also tackle some common parenting and personal challenges; how to decide the right number of activities for your kids, strategies to be less reactive in the moment; and tips for gaining control of your thoughts. This inspiring conversation is filled with practical wisdom for a simpler, more intentional life.
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Uncomplicated
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Jill Savage is a speaker and author of No More Perfect Marriages. In this episode, we sit down to have a heartfelt and honest conversation about relationships. Jill opens up about her and her husband's journey through infidelity and the hard work of rebuilding trust. We dive deep into the subtle "slow fades" that can erode relationships, how attachment styles impact our connections, and the dysfunction we all carry from childhood into our marriages. Jill shares practical advice for navigating conflict, healing broken trust, and strengthening your relationship. Whether you’re married, engaged, or simply interested in relationship dynamics, this episode is packed with wisdom, encouragement, and actionable insights.
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No More Perfect Marriages
No More Perfect Podcast
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It’s Election Week, so naturally, we don’t talk about it. Scotty has fallen ill so sadly SWE is reduced to three (Ts and Ps for Scott). Kaitlin gets a library card. Apparently libraries are still a thing. We check in on the sour bread dough journey and discuss Emily’s “pregnancy brain”… Emily has a few gaps. Matt and Emily are going to Disney, so Emily is deep in the trenches of packing for a pregnant vacation.
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Lisa Steven is the author of A Place to Belong, a former teen mom and co-founder of Hope House Colorado, a sanctuary for teen mothers that empowers them to strive for personal and economic self-sufficiency and to understand their significance in God’s sight. Together, we dive deep into the realities of generational poverty, exploring the differences between middle-class and poverty mindsets. Our guest shares transformative stories of resilience and success from Hope House, offering insight into the challenges and triumphs of young mothers striving for a healthy future for their families.
Hope House
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Our Water Bottle!
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Frozen waffles get canceled because of a listeria outbreak—right after Emily spends a month binging frozen waffles for breakfast. Jayce battles pneumonia and Kaitlin… well, sort of cares. Emily and Matt might just have the worst luck with cars of all time. Emily gets caught being less than truthful. And Kaitlin nearly runs head-first through the bedroom door in the middle of the night.
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This might just be the most relatable topic of our generation. Meghan Ryan Asbury joins us to chat about her book, You Are Not Behind: Build a Life You Love Without Having Everything You Want. We talk about how to find true satisfaction between where you are and where you want to be; how to avoid manipulating our hopes; how to deal with unmet expectations, and so much more.
You Are Not Behind
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A member of the SWE team is pregnant. Hint…it’s not Scott. And contrary to popular belief, nor is it Kaitlin. Scott and Matt go golfing and are now obsessed. Kaitlin finally admits she has a shopping problem. Emily’s everlasting-simmering-scented-pot draws a lot of attention at a recent family party. Scott is never more offended than when he’s given a subpar rental car. Emily and Scott throw down with the HOA.
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Clarissa Moll is back and she's here to talk about her new book, Hurt, Help, Hope.She co-wrote it with her daughter and it's all about teenage grief. Today we chat about; the difference between intuitive and instrumental grievers, spiritual guidance for dealing with grief, what to do if you have regrets about the person you lost, the hidden gifts of grief, and so much more. Clarissa's book is available starting TOMORROW (October 8th).
Hurt Help Hope: A Real Conversation about Teen Grief and Life After Loss
Clarissa’s Website
Beyond the Darkness
Clarissa’s Podcast - Surprised by Grief
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Kaitlin’s sour bread dough journey is going VERY well! Scott is committed to making his smart phone as dumb as possible. Kaitlin discovers Scott’s secret stash of Magic Mind. Julia Roberts. Emily and Kaitlin are supporting their families financially with online shopping returns. Kaitlin’s car eats her credit card.
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Emily and Kaitlin get into a bidding war over a Cape May sweatshirt and things turn physical. Scott turns into the hulk when he drinks coffee. Kaitlin’s lettuce edge socks are Scott’s new favorite women’s sock. Barrel jeans are an interesting choice society is making. And everything you’ll ever need to know about sour bread dough.
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Wait...Walmart fashion is having a moment...I'm OBSESSED. Does anyone understand how thrifting actually works? Scott reveals his secret thrifting past. Parker goes flying. Matt’s (never used) razor subscription saves the day when Emily discovers the superiority of men’s razors. Emily and Kaitlin go on a walk from hell. #VoteForScott
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Emily chose a career she’s allergic to. Scott doesn’t know when summer ends. Matt annoys the heck out of everyone on the internet with his incessant posting on Facebook Marketplace. Kaitlin has read so many books that she’s starting to unknowingly reread books. Local “newspaper” shouts out local hero, Kaitlin Elliott, for “saving” a man’s life.
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Kaitlin and Scott have a cute little date night (meaning…they sat down to record this podcast together). They discuss RIVETING topics like Kaitlin’s hair (again) and nails (again). They discuss Scott’s deep desire to save people from the rain and Kaitlin’s desire to let them soak and deal with their own life choices. Scott also wants to go on a marriage retreat and have lots of deep conversations and Kaitlin does not.
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Kaitlin, Caroline, and Emily reminisce about Kaitlin’s bad highlights. Caroline’s apartment gets overrun with gnats, she inhales a bottle of Raid, finds a stray cat, and has a close encounter with an opossum…all in one day. Emily struggles to do basic math. Kaitlin makes an Amazon Wishlist so friends and family can buy her gifts (yes this includes you, listeners).
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Emily gives Kaitlin the greatest compliment of her life. The saga continues with the curse of Matt and Emily’s HVAC. Kaitlin and Scott go on a trip to Maryland and revisit the site of Scott’s most “profound” spiritual experience. They also get to see their nephew pitch in front of 40,000 people. His name is Garret Declue. He plays Banana Ball. He’s #17 on the Firefighters. He’s awesome. Go check him out. And in other news, Kaitlin wants to become an internet troll.
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Emily gets FIRED UP about her and Matt’s latest HVAC debacle. Kaitlin’s driving is starting to become a genuine hazard for the general public. Everyone debates lazy vacations vs. excursion vacations. Kaitlin gets into a sticky situation with her fake nails. Everyone (except Scott…cough cough…) finally listens to Lights On with Carl Lentz and shares their initial thoughts.
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Kaitlin and Emily are experiencing a dog attack epidemic. Nick Canon hosts a Father’s Day meet and greet…for his own children. Matt and Scott have strong feelings about the latest Pixar movie, Inside Out 2 (it might be the greatest movie ever made). The gang gets into politics for the first time...and last. And everyone shares their thoughts on Carl Lentz’s new podcast, Lights On with Carl Lentz.
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Scott's inability to pronounce words in proper English is starting to cause mass confusion. Apparently Toad from the Mario universe has a different name?? Kaitlin nearly has an encounter with a home intruder. Matt and Emily finally upgrade to a king bed and forget how beds work. Scott has a debacle with a watch Kaitlin gifted him.
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Meredith Miller is a pastor, parent, and writer with over 20 years experience in children’s ministry and curriculum. Meredith was Curriculum Director for the children’s ministry at Willow Creek Community Church in Chicago, Illinois, where she created the framework for lessons that responds to the latest research on kids and faith formation. In 2019 she and her husband Curtis started Pomona Valley Church –a church on Zoom that wants to live the one-anothers, neighbor well, and do justice. And eat. Today, she joins us to talk about her book, Woven: Nurturing a Faith Your Kid Doesn’t Have to Heal From, where we dive into things like, how to prevent instilling a moralistic faith in our kids, how to help our kids build trust in a good God as opposed to simply obedience training, and faith as a web vs. a wall. Please welcome, Meredith Miller.
Meredith’s Website
Meredith’s Book: Woven
Meredith’s Substack - The Great Big Bible Story Walkthrough
Meredith’s Podcast: Ask Away
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While Matt and Emily are off developing gambling habits in Atlantic City (or ya know, attending a Veterinary conference), Kaitlin and Scott cuddle up on the couch for an Elliott’s only episode. It’s been a wild ride of a week in the Elliott household, so buckle up folks!
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Emily P. Freeman is a New York Times bestselling author of six books, including the book she’s here to chat about today, How to Walk into a Room: The Art of Knowing When to Stay and When to Walk Away. Kaitlin and Emily discuss when it is time to walk in and out of metaphorical rooms in our lives, why it’s okay to change your mind, and the four steps in the discernment process. Emily is lovely, she’s wise, and a delight to listen to.
Emily’s Book - How to Walk into a Room
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SWE Team takes a deep dive into water (not literally...like, drinking water). Kaitlin undergoes her most difficult life trial yet, glue on nails. Kaitlin almost burns her house down with her air fryer/oven/toaster/broiler. Thankfully Emily strongly endorses the fire blanket to keep us all safe. Kaitlin severely over-trusts her GPS when driving and frequently finds herself heading to the wrong destination. Honestly, after listening to this episode it’s a miracle Kaitlin is alive at all.
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Author Harrison Scott Key joins us to talk about his book “How to Stay Married: The Most Insane Love Story Ever Told.” Harrison shares his story of his wife having an affair (twice) and how they were able to reconcile their marriage; how he leaned into his faith and church community during the darkest time of his life; how his wife felt about him writing a book about her affair; and how they have talked to their children about everything that has gone on in their marriage. It’s a heavy topic, but Harrison is hilarious and brilliantly weaves humor into his story.
How To Stay Married
@harrisonscottkey
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Emily and Matt are watching One Tree Hill and stuck in 2005. Kaitlin almost ruins holidays for her children by letting them listen to her own podcast. Filtered water is taking up too much space in Scott’s life. No one can figure out if it’s “say your piece” or “say your peace.” Mark Driscoll gets booted off stage at a men’s conference. And Casa Bonita gets a makeover.
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Happy Solar Eclipse Day! Kaitlin and Scott are flying directly into the heart of the solar eclipse....maybe as we speak. Scott is ancient and his body is failing him. Every illness ever has passed through the Elliott household this year. The gang chats Easter outfits and Kaitlin's potentially risqué (not actually) Easter shorts. And Matt comes up with a new (possibly legitimate) subscription business idea.
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The Chicola sisters are BACK to talk about all things Love Is Blind Season 6. But SPOILER ALERT...if you intend to watch it, but have not seen it this will absolutely ruin it for you and give away everything! Unless you don't care, then by all means...listen away!
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The day has come...It has finally happened ...please welcome (he was forced against his will)...Reverend Doctor Pastor Mr. Poppi Dad Tim Chicola to So...What Else! The gang chats about Love Is Blind, men's hair care, and Kate Middleton conspiracy theories while Scott continues to confuse the world with his mispronunciation of vowels. Overall, Dad was pretty underwhelmed with the whole experience so he's probably not ever coming back (he secretly loved it). Enjoy!
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The Party Animals, Dustin Baber, horrible dentist experiences, Dr.Dan, Emily gets fired up about pet shopping, Kaitlin gives up social media for Reddit, Matt and Emily are electric toothbrush curious....it's a SWEpisode, you know the drill friends.
The Party Animals
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Please welcome the one, the only, Dustin Doyle to SWE! You may remember Kate Doyle from previous episodes and may think it odd they have the same last name. Well, it’s no coincidence. They’re married. Kaitlin and Dustin chat about football (of all things) and recap the Super Bowl. Dustin’s involvement in arresting a Real House HUSBAND on The Real Housewives of New Jersey. What it was like for Dustin and Kate to get married young. We love Dustin and so will you!
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It’s SWEpisode day baby! Parker Peach is turning one and Kaitlin is turning...another year older. Scott risks his life and trashes Italian cuisine staples. For some reason Matt is putting rosemary oil on his head, and has unusually soft feet. Kaitlin is starting a social media fast but will also still sort of be on social media. Chipwiches.
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SWE interviews are back! This week Kaitlin chats with new friend and podcast co-host, Kelsey Aldinger. Kaitlin and Kelsey talk kids and their shared love of Bravo shows, and dive into Kelsey's journies with IVF and foster care. You're gonna love her!
Kelsey’s Substack
Craving Connection Podcast
The Popcast
The Big Boo Cast
Two Judgey Girls
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Caroline joins Kaitlin for a one-on-one sisterly chat. They dive deep into the Enneagram, childhood dream careers, Kaitlin's puffy vest freak out, gushing, and phobias. Enjoy folks!
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Happy birthday SWE! We totally forgot and almost missed it (...whoops). In oblivious celebration of our birthday, we cover topics like; Supergoop! and how it's NOT owned by Gwenith Paltrow, Kylie Jenner's striking resemblance to Cillian Murphy (pronounced sil-lee-en according to Kaitlin), Kaitlin and Scott's magical, never-ending salt shaker, Emily's favorite childhood video game to play on the toilet, that time Scott got handcuffed, the magnificent gift from the universe (or just New Jersey) that is gold cards, and Scott's plethora of time traveling friends.
Everyone's favorite youngest sister, Caroline, returns to wreak havoc. Emily and Caroline ring in the New Year with a moving musical number. Emily and Matt finally move and tear Penelope away from her love interest, Vincent. Dad's Amazon account gets "hacked." Kaitlin and Scott encounter a seemingly unbelievable series of unfortunate Christmas break events. And Scott gets an "encouraging word" from the Lord. Welcome to 2024, folks.
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OG SWE listeners may remember an early episode from the SWE Vault called Glory Days. Well, you’re in for a real treat because Kaitlin’s cousins, Lauren and Suzy, are back for Glory Days…Part Two. The girls dive into topics like skin care, hair care, foot amputations (gross), and New Year’s resolutions.
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Kaitlin and Scott fly solo in this week’s SWEpisode and gather under the warm light of their Christmas tree for a cozy fireside chat. Kaitlin gives updates about a recent health challenge. Scott returns home after being away for work and nearly wipes out the entire Fabletics inventory. Kaitlin gets embarrassed by a shepherd (you’ll see). And Scott has some big news to share about his nephew.
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The Chicola sisters are back with their usual shenanigans, and this time are joined by a very, very, very, very, very, very, very special guest. She's one of a kind. She's on in a million. And you'll have to listen to find out who it is. This episode is...well, it's something special.
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This week on So…What Else: Matt and Scott reconsider their dislike of rompers only to learn they have gone out of style. Scott buys his first pair of sneakers. Everyone finally figures out how tall they are. Emily knocks over a mic. Matt flawlessly describes what a heatless hair curler is. Kait and Scott have achieved the impossible and found a show they can watch together. We’re all in love with Kirk Cousins. And the annual Christmas gift exchange is getting a makeover. Enjoy!
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Emily's long-awaited, triumphant return to the pod. Daylight savings is stupid. Kaitlin and Scott unpack how using the Aro has positively impacted their lives. How does one eat a sandwich during a 50-mile bike race? Daylight savings is stupid. The crew ROASTS Emily because she deserves it. Scott has no idea what food is, what it's made out of, or how to use it for basic survival. Daylight savings is stupid.
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Emily misses recording because she's ill (and a big baby). Scott, for reasons unbeknownst to any human being, confesses his unjust hatred of cookie dough. The Elliotts head to Disney World and Kait can't get enough of the Frozen ride. Matt and Emily finally closed on their new home and are now entrenched in a major (and some might say, completely unnecessary) flooring debacle. Happy Halloween party people!
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Scott bravely battles an over-wintering(?) swarm of bees. Emily nearly loses an appendage at work. Kaitlin calls a baby girl a boy...in front of the baby's mother. Scott begins a new exercise journey that involves eating brownies while working out. And Emily reveals Matt's obsessive hoarding of white shoes. Happy 100th Birthday Scott! We love you!
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Kelsey Baty sits down with Kaitlin to have a raw, heart-to-heart about the recent loss of each of their mothers. Both Kelsey’s mom and Kaitlin’s mom bravely fought glioblastomas. K & K talk about the challenges of walking the journey with their moms, the pain of losing them, how the experience has impacted their faith, and how they have picked up the pieces and begun to move forward in the midst of their grief.
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Kaitlin finally joins the dark side and embraces Walmart for her shopping needs. Scott and Caroline save Penelope (a dog) from certain explosive doom. Matt and Emily reflect on their experience at a recent Jonas Brothers concert while Kaitlin and Scott decide they’re too old for concerts. The whole gang shares some grocery delivery mixups and (slimy) mishaps.
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The crew sits down to reflect on mom’s cancer journey, life over the last couple of months, and how the family is coping as they learn to navigate life after this devastating loss.
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Joey Odom is the co-founder of Aro, a technology platform designed for families looking to reduce screen time and increase quality time together. It’s one one-part app, one-part device, and helps you achieve your goals of time away from your phone to connect more with the people that matter most. 91% of adults keep their phones within arms reach 24 hours a day. Joey joins us to chat about practical ways we can learn to control our screen time while not ridding our homes of technology.
Aro
Aro Podcast
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Inés Franklin is an author, podcast host, speaker, founder of Trochia Ministries, and on the teaching team at Mariners Church in Southern California. Inés shares her life story and the challenges of growing up in poverty in Puerto Rico, as well as the hardships of going through multiple divorces. She spent years carrying around shame but has learned over time to accept God’s grace and forgiveness. Inés shares incredible insights about suffering that provide healing and hope for those still finding their way or doubting their faith.
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Ines’s Book: Uncharted
Ines’s Podcasts
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SWE headquarters is issued a boil water advisory after a water main break in town. Kaitlin and Emily are panicking while Matt and Scott don’t think it’s a big deal. Kaitlin tells a childhood story about Emily that may or may not involve poop. Kaitlin and Scott argue over the cleanliness of a bathroom sink. The gang thinks recycling is a scam and paper straws are the worst thing to ever happen to society.
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Youngest Chicola sister, Caroline, makes her bi-annual appearance on SWE for this week's sister episode. Kaitlin rats out Caroline’s secret tattoo to their dad. Emily confesses to returning products to stores after using them and has no idea what a tree trunk is. Caroline hits the world's biggest bush with her car. And Kaitlin still feels guilty about accidentally cheating on a test in 4th grade.
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Kaitlin and Emily fall in love with AI renderings of their potential (not real) future children. Jon Bellion makes us all cry with his new cover of a throwback Switchfoot song. Matt and Scott profess their love for Ryan Reynolds. Kaitlin deserves to be canceled because she thinks Taylor Swift is overrated (kidding….sort of). And Scott thinks he knows how to pronounce “Mario” correctly. This episode is a dumpster fire. Enjoy!
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Christine Boye bravely shares her story of receiving a devastating cancer diagnosis at 32 years old and just a few days later learning she was pregnant with her third child. In the midst of her pregnancy, she underwent surgery and chemotherapy treatment. A few years later she learned that her cancer had metastasized to other parts of her body. And yet, Christine is such a source of encouragement, hope, and joy. Her story is not only one of learning to survive, but learning to thrive despite her circumstances.
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After 10 years of marriage, Kaitlin and Scott have some serious complaints about each other's habits in the kitchen. Emily loses her patience at Matt's complete inability to get a sentence out. We dive deep into some questionable giving tactics by a megachurch. And...what would a SWEpisode be without a discussion about gooey chocolate chip cookies?
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Kaitlin embraces her new "Dance Mom" identity. Scott also embraces his new "Dance Mom" identity. Matt gets a new tattoo. And we discover why Emily has a hard time being celebrated. All that, and so much more on this week's SWEpisode.
Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott
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Sheila Wray Gregoire is BACK and she's here to talk about her new book, She Deserves Better: Raising Girls to Resist Toxic Teachings on Sex, Self, and Speaking Up, where she helps parents talk to girls about modesty messages, sex, dating, and consent.
Sheila is an author, speaker, wife, mother, and host of the Bare Marriage podcast.
Sheila’s New Book → She Deserves Better
Sheila’s Website
Follow Sheila on Insta → @sheilagregoire
Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott
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Scott gets into a fight with some soccer moms. Kaitlin abandons her natural deodorant journey. Emily gets ambushed and discovers she’s shallow. And Matt gets another subscription…for gym shorts? Plus, the gang shares their thoughts on the latest Hillsong Church documentary, The Secrets of Hillsong.
@so.what.else @kaitlingracelliott SWE Website
Megan Faulkner is the author of Happily Ever After All: On Purpose Living in a Fairy Tale World. Kaitlin and Megan chat about triathlons, youth ministry, activated charcoal, and singleness. Single friends, this one's for you! Married people, this is also for you! You're gonna love her!
Megan’s Website
Megan’s Book - Happily Ever After All
Megan’s Podcast - Wife Me Up
Follow Megan on Insta → @meganefaulk
Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott
Follow SWE on Insta → @so.what.else
Are key fobs actually making our lives easier? Is the new season of Ted Lasso poop-eh? Does natural deodorant even work for excessively sweaty pits? All fantastic, important questions that the gang provides answers for in this week's SWEpisode.
@so.what.else
@kaitlingracelliott
SWE Website
Molly Stillman is a podcaster, blogger, and soon, author. Today she joins Kaitlin to chat about her experience in improv comedy, farming and homesteading, and Molly’s grief journey walking through the loss of her mother and two pregnancy losses.
Molly’s Website
Molly’s Podcast: Can I Laugh on Your Shoulder?
Molly’s Blog
Follow Molly on Insta → @stillbeingmolly
Jane Iredale Lash Extender
The gang recaps Matt & Emily's recent trip to Italy, Kaitlin confesses to hijacking a pair of underwear, and Scott has some big feelings about drivers that back into parking spots.
@so.what.else
@kaitlingracelliott
SWE Website
Kaitlin, Scott, Emily, and Matt recap the "Adult" Easter Egg Hunt of 2023, Matt gets vulnerable about a life journey he's currently on, and Kaitlin struggles to understand how colors are made. Enjoy!
@so.what.else
@kaitlingracelliott
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Kaitlin, Scott, Emily, and Matt return for their usual shenanigans and to announce a special giveaway in celebration of the 100th episode of So...What Else?...but three episodes late.
@so.what.else
@kaitlingracelliott
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Kaitlin, Scott, Emily, Matt, and special guest, “Jennifer Coolidge” are BACK to discuss the miraculous return of a famous local cat that has been missing for (months? years?), and uncover Matt’s deeply problematic addiction to subscription products.
@so.what.else@kaitlingracelliottSWE Website
GREAT NEWS EVERYONE! Kaitlin is no longer pregnant and there's a sweet baby girl on the scene. Listen in to Kaitlin and Scott recount her birth story and talk about her name, how they came up with it, and what it means to them. @kaitlingraceelliott@so.what.else SWE Website
IT’S OUR 100th EPISODE!!!!!!!!!!!! Things have been kinda rough around here but we decided to push through the pain (literally) and record our 100th episode anyway and let me tell you - it’s a real treat. LOTS of pee stories, the BACKstory about Kaitlin’s back, a new hair journey for Emily, and a REALLY AWKWARD conversation about marital massages.
We truly cannot thank all of you enough for sticking with us for 100 episodes!!!!!!!!! We would not be here if it wasn’t from all the support from you guys!!!
@kaitlingraceelliott@so.what.elseOur Website
This week we have Taylor Nichols on SWE! You will love her kind, sweet soul. We chat about adoption and parenting and then Taylor shares her story of growing up in a cult-like church community and what it was like to leave and rebuild her faith after.
@nichols_taylor@so.what.else@kaitlingraceelliottSWE Website
Toni Collier shares all about her story of extreme brokenness (sexual abuse, bulimia, alcohol and drug abuse, divorce) and her journey to healing. Toni is the author of Brave Enough to Be Broken, Founder of Broken Crayons Still Color, and host of the Still Coloring Podcast.
Toni’s WebsiteToni’s Podcast - Still ColoringToni’s Book - Brave Enough to Be BrokenFollow Toni on Insta → @tonijcollierIn Their Shoes
Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliottFollow SWE on Insta → @so.what.elseSWE Website
Sophia Satariano joins us to share her story of being in the foster care system from age 2 until 21. She opens up about walking through being separated from her sisters, losing her foster parents, and being placed in homes where she was not loved and cared for. She ends our time by sharing how you can help foster kids in your area!
Sophia’s BlogFollow Sophia on Insta → @sophia_satarianoCelebrate RecoveryAging Up - Youth Mentoring Program
Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliottFollow SWE on Insta → @so.what.elseSo What Else Website
Today Kaitlin sits down with one of her all-time favorite podcasters, Eddie Kaufholz. You may know him from shows like The New Activist, Annie and Eddie Keep Talking, The Relevant Podcast, and his new(ish) show Doing The Best We Can. Eddie and Kaitlin talk about everything from Jersey Accents, to pregnancy, to their fave shows. They also get into a serious discussion about food, binge eating, counseling and shame around food.
Eddie’s WebsiteEddie’s Podcast → Doing the Best We CanEddie’s Newsletter
Follow Eddie on Insta → @edwardoreddieFollow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliottFollow SWE on Insta → @so.what.elseSo What Else Website
Insta account to check out → @binge.nutritionistUntold: The Girlfriend Who Didn’t Exist
Happy New Year(s?) SWE Fam!! Kaitlin, Scott, Emily, and Matt kick off the New Year by chatting about some of their favorite Christmas gifts, Kaitlin's recent pregnancy brain debacle at Starbucks, and some heated (but loving) marital debate.
Manda Carpenter is the author of Soul Care to Save Your Life and today she boldly shares her story of infidelity in her marriage. Kaitlin and Manda really dig in about transparency in relationships, the benefit of therapy, and how radical honesty leads to real healing.
Manda’s WebsiteFollow Manda on Insta → @mandacarpenter Manda’s Book → Soul Care to Save Your LifeManda’s Podcast → A Longer Table
Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on Insta → @so.what.else So What Else Website
Are you grieving this holiday season? Do you know someone who has been touched by grief in some way? Then this episode is for you. Clarissa shares about losing her beloved husband, Rob, tragically and suddenly. Clarissa talks about grief as being an unwelcome, yet constant companion in our lives after we have lost someone we love. In this episode, Clarissa shares about navigating grief through the holiday season, grieving someone who you might have unresolved feelings toward, and so much more.
Clarissa’s WebsiteThe Grief Recovery HandbookClarissa’s Book - Beyond the DarknessRob’s Book - The Art of DyingClarissa’s Podcast - Surprised by Grief Follow Clarissa on Insta → @mollclarissa Forgiving our Fathers and Mothers Follow SWE on insta → @so.what.else Follow Kaitlin on insta → @kaitlingraceelliott SWE Website
The gang is back to discuss some heavy topics like Nick Cannon (AGAIN) and a new theory that has popped up about why he has so many kids!!! We also discuss honking while driving, tipping protocols, and a spice rack that took seven years to arrive (literally).
Follow SWE on insta → @so.what.elseFollow Kaitlin on insta → @kaitlingraceelliott SWE Website
Ashley Minor works for the Fellowship of Christian Athletes and Ivy Media. Today she shares with us her story of her hard upbringing where she witnessed physical abuse of her mother and the death of her father. She shares about discovering a love of basketball and how that set her on a new path.
Ashley’s Podcast - Come Like a Child Follow Ashley on Insta → @ashleydminor Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on Insta → @so.what.else SWE Website
Jill McElya is the President and Co-Founder of the Invisible Girl Project. IGP’s mission is to rescue girls, pursue justice, and end female gendercide in India. If you have never heard of the gendercide that is occurring in India (most haven’t) or you don’t even know what feticide, infanticide, and gendercide are (most don’t), Jill breaks it all down for us in this episode. The work IGP is doing is phenomenal and life changing. Want to get involved? Follow IGP on instagram and join in with their Giving Tuesday Campaign for 2022!
Invisible Girl Project Follow IGP on instagram → @invisiblegirlproject Follow Jill on Instagram → @igpjillmcelya Jill’s Favorite Snack Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else SWE Website
Kaitlin is joined by longtime friend, Pastor Mark Hallock, for a special interview. Kaitlin and Mark met over a decade ago when Kaitlin was leading a mission trip at Mark’s church (see episode 67 with Katherine Hennecke for funny stories and details). Today they sit down to discuss Mark’s longtime battle with a panic disorder and also the darkest season of his life, when his son was diagnosed with a rare and incredibly aggressive cancer.
Mark serves as the Lead Pastor of Calvary Church in Englewood, Colorado. He is also the President of the Calvary Family of Churches, a family of churches committed to planting and replanting churches for the glory of God. Mark also serves as Assistant Professor of Applied Theology at William Tennent School of Theology and has written a number of books.
Show Notes:
Mark’s Books on Amazon Acoma Press Calvary Englewood (Mark’s Church) Calvary Family of Churches Mark’s Blog Follow Mark on Insta → @mark_hallock Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott SWE Website
It's SWEpisode day! Kaitlin, Scott, Matt, and Emily sit down with a SPECIAL GUEST to chat about foot modeling (trust me - this takes a turn you’re not anticipating), Kaitlin’s constant gagging during her pregnancy, and lots of Christmas debate.
Show Notes: www.kaitlinelliott.com @kaitlingraceelliott @so.what.else
Kaitlin sits down with Nicole Jacobsmeyer to talk about fighting for purpose when life is more than you can handle. Nicole shares about being raped in college, suffering a miscarriage, and walking through a cancer diagnosis. She has suffered so much trauma and heartache in her life and shares about how she has taken back her joy.
Show Notes: Nicole’s Website Nicole’s Book - Take Back Your Joy Follow Nicole on Insta → nicole.jacobsmeyer Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on Insta → @so.what.else Kaitlin’s Website
Counselor, Author, and Speaker, Nicole Langman, shares her story of deep rejection in her marriage that left her totally broken. She walks us through her healing journey and journey to forgiveness. Nicole also dives into tidbits about Narrative Therapy practices, soul wounds, Confirmation Bias, and so much more.
Show Notes: Nicole’s Website Nicole’s Book - You Are Wanted Follow Nicole on Instagram! → nicole_langman_officialprofile Follow Kaitlin on Instagram → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on Instagram → @so.what.else SWE Website
Kaitlin sits down with Tess Scott this week to chat about the freakshow of life! They swap hilarious mom stories and also get into the hard stuff. Tess shares about her son, TJ, who joined her family through foster care and adoption and suffers from Fetal Alcohol Spectrum Disorder. She also shares about another son who battled addiction. Listen in to hear this amazing conversation!
Show Notes:
Tess's Website Tess's Book Follow Tess on Insta → @listensister_encouragement Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on Insta → @so.what.else SWE Website!
Kaitlin, Scott, Matt, & Emily are back to discuss Kaitlin's harrowing encounter with a bear, Emily's new hobby, and everyone weighs in on the apparently controversial toothbrush debate.
Show Notes:
Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on insta → @so.what.else
Sara Gonzalez (Lewis) joins us on SWE for a long chat about a past relationship that took a crazy turn. For fans of the podcast, Something Was Wrong, you may recognize Sara from Season 1. And if you’re hearing Sara’s story for the first time, well…you’re in for a wild ride!
Show Notes:
Something Was Wrong Podcast (Sara’s story is Season 1) Follow Sara → @spaceandpurpose Follow Kaitlin → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE → @so.what.else Kaitlin’s Website
Whitney Furrh joins us on SWE for a really special conversation about adoption. Whitney represents two sides of the adoption triad; she is both an Adoptee AND a Birth Mom of an adopted child. As Kaitlin and Whitney discuss in the episode, it can be challenging to find Birth Moms who are willing to share their story of placing their child(ren) for adoption because of so many negative stereotypes and stigmas. Whitney bravely and vulnerably shares about her experience and has amazing insights that we know will reshape the way you understand adoption.
Show Notes: Follow Whitney on Insta → @wtfurrh So What Else Website Follow Kaitlin on Insta → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on Insta → @so.what.else
Today we have Stacey Morgan on SWE and you are going to love her engaging, fun personality. Kaitlin and Stacey talk about friendships, our fave app (MARCO POLO), skydiving, and the tiny detail of Stacey’s husband going to OUTER SPACE for 9 months. You are going to love this conversation!
Show Notes: The Astronaut’s Wife Book Stacey's Website Stacey's Blog
Follow Stacey on Insta! → @staceymorgan2000 Check out Kaitlin’s Website Follow Kaitlin on Insta! → @kaitlingraceelliott Follow SWE on Insta! → @so.what.else
ANNDDD WE’RE BAAACCKK!!! After our mini break, we are back in full force to discuss what’s coming up with the podcast, our life-changing adventure to a Twenty One Pilots concert, Nick Cannon, Halloween costume ideas and a million other things.
www.kaitlinelliott.com @kaitlingraceelliott @so.what.else
Two very special first-time guests join Kaitlin and Scott on this short episode for an important announcement and some big life updates.
Show Notes: www.ivey.media www.chatologie.com @kaitlingraceelliott www.Kaitlinelliott.com @prble_ www.prble.com
Today, we have Brittany Salmon on SWE and it’s such a fabulous conversation. Brittany shares about a crazy experience she and her family just went through when they were scammed by their movers! The bulk of today’s conversation focuses on Brittany’s book It Takes More Than Love which is a guide to navigate the complexities of cross-cultural adoption. She shares about bringing her two sons into her home through domestic, open-adoptions and all she has learned along the way.
Show Notes: Brittany’s Website Follow Brittany on Instagram @brittanynsalmon It Takes More Than Love www.kaitlinelliott.com @kaitlingraceelliott @so.what.else
THE Family Nutritionist, Alex Turnbull, joins us on SWE! Typically, So... What Else? is a story-based podcast, however we have had a handful of episodes related to body image, intuitive eating, etc. So today we finally have an episode focused on kids! We talk about how to help kids develop a healthy relationship with food, how to handle dessert, snacks, picky eaters - we cover it all! Make sure to check out our past episodes surrounding this topic!
Episode 12 - My battle with an Eating Disorder
Episode 13 - Intuitive Eating
Episode 26 - Body Image with Bri
Episode 34 - Breaking Free From Body Shame
Episode 53 - IE Reflections
Show Notes: @thefamilynutritionist Alex's Website www.kaitlinelliott.com @kaitlingraceelliott @so.what.else
Misty Snyder shares her powerful story of finding out that the child she was pregnant with had a 90% chance of having Down Syndrome. Listen to hear how Misty processed this news, wrestled with guilt and shame, and finally welcomed her beautiful son Jed into the world. Misty is inspiring and we know you will love today’s conversation.
@happinessisdownsyndrome @mistycoysnyder Happiness is Down Syndrome Video www.kaitlinelliott.com @kaitlingraceelliott @so.what.else
In Part 2 of this SWEpisode, Kaitlin, Scott, Matt, and Emily continue their conversation from last week and give updates on their MANY journeys (Matt’s soap journey, Scott’s new job, Emily’s curly hair…)
Show Notes: @prble_ www.prble.com www.kaitlinelliott.com @kaitlingraceelliott @so.what.else
This SWEpisode is JAM packed. So much so...we had to split it into two parts. This week Kaitlin and Scott catch us up on their dog sitting adventures. Matt and Emily recall an encounter with a dying bat in their house. Kaitlin and Emily share an irrational fear of bugs…a LOT happens in this episode.
Show Notes: www.kaitlinelliott.com @kaitlingraceelliott @so.what.else
Sandi Savage is a writer, speaker, and non-profit founder. Buckle up because her story is a wild ride. Sandi has been through it all; alcoholism, drug addiction, divorce, rape, working in the sex industry, cancer, infertility….she has an incredible story of hardship and redemption.
Show Notes: Sandi’s Website @sandisavage Sandi’s favorite peach & biscuit ice cream
www.kaitlinelliott.com @kaitlingraceelliott
Guess who’s back?! Kaitlin’s youngest sister, Caroline, pops back onto SWE after a long hiatus. The sisters chat about everything….Jayce losing a tooth, OCD, The Kardashians, Johnny Depp & Amber Heard, TV shows….you will love being a fly on the wall for their sister catch-up session.
Show Notes: www.kaitlinelliott.com @kaitlingraceelliott @so.what.else
John Onwuchekwa is a pastor, author, speaker, and entrepreneur. He vulnerably shares his story of walking through the sudden loss of his brother and infertility with his wife. After pushing his grief aside he found himself in a really dark place and reached a breaking point which led to his journey of healing. John’s story is filled with hope and wisdom. You’re not going to want to miss it!
Show Notes:
@jawn_o John’s Website John's Latest Book - We Go On Portrait Coffee Kaitlinelliott.com @kaitlingraceelliott
Nicole Zasowski is a licensed family and marriage therapist, speaker, and author. She shares so much wisdom from her experience walking through many years of miscarriage after miscarriage. In her book, What If It’s Wonderful, Nicole reminds us that we can find joy and celebration even when we are in the midst of suffering. In this interview, Nicole makes a compelling psychological and spiritual case for embracing celebration. You won’t be disappointed by this conversation!
Show Notes: Get Nicole's Book >> What If It's Wonderful www.nicolezasowski.com @nicolezasowski
This SWEpisode is a GOOD one. Kaitlin & Emily expose their terrible driving skills and naturally fall into hysterical laughter. The whole thing almost goes off the rails entirely BUT THEN everyone pulls it together and gets into a really deep discussion about Mega Churches, how rich is “too rich” and lots of other stuff. You don’t want to miss this one.
Show Notes:
@preachersnsneakers @so.what.else @kaitlingraceelliott www.kaitlinelliott.com
Kaitlin sits down with four of her besties to bring you our second So...What Else? Book Chat. The ladies sat down to discuss one of their favorite books, Where the Crawdads Sing. The movie adaptation is coming out in July so dive into this book chat to get ready for it!
Show Notes: Where the Crawdads Sing @crawdadsmovie @so.what.else @kaitlingraceelliott www.kaitlinelliott.com
This week is such a special treat because we FINALLY snagged Katherine Hennecke (Lewis) for an amazingly fun chat. It’s basically a SWEpisode/Interview combo episode! Kaitlin and Katherine reminisce about their experiences working on staff at a missions organization together. They chat about some super "normal" experiences they had like getting bras stolen, almost getting eaten by alligators, getting attacked by dogs…..and then they get into a discussion about how sometimes “helping” can hurt when not done with the right attitude.
Show Notes: Experience Mission Follow Katherine on Insta → @henneckehappenings www.kaitlinelliott.com @so.what.else @kaitlingraceelliott
Valerie Cantella is an award-winning multipassionate communications and public affairs professional. She is the author of Off-Script: a mom’s journey through adoption, a husband’s alcoholism, and special needs parenting. She shares her journey as a mother of teens with mental health issues, the struggles of special needs parenting, the effect of alcoholism on a marriage, and how she learned to embrace the unimaginable to create an extraordinary life.
Show Notes:
Valerie’s Book: Off Script
Valerie’s Website
Instagram → @valeriejcantella
NAMI
How Are You, Really?
@jennakutcher
@theramblingredhead
Salina Iavarone is the cohost of the Life Your Freakin’ Life Podcast, a Positive Psychology Practitioner, Enneagram Coach, and Life Coach. We chat about so many things from positive psychology, to mindfulness, to deconstruction and reconstruction of faith, chronic pain and the struggle of curly hair. You’re gonna love it!
Show Notes: Salina’s Website Live Your Freakin’ Life Podcast @salinaiavarone www.kaitlinelliott.com @so.what.else @kaitlingraeelliott
It’s a SWEpisode day! Kaitlin, Scott, Matt, and Emily break down some really important topics like pizzeria pizza vs. Pizza Hut, CHEER, Emily’s glamorous job, and so much more.
Show Notes: Pasta bread bowl @jennakutcher @kcglamour
Ainsley B is a brand new mom, podcaster, writer, Enneagram coach, and she has her first book coming out this summer! Ainsley shares about an extremely toxic and abusive relationship that she was in, why she stayed, how it ended, and how she’s healed since.
Show Notes: Ainsley’s Website Ainsley’s Podcast: Wild Confidence Don’t Date a Boo Boo Dude Follow Ainsley on Instagram @ainsleyb Tik Tok @enneagramandchill
Chris Brown (no, not that Chris Brown…) is an author, pastor, speaker, and church leadership expert. Chris worked alongside Dave Ramsey for years as a radio host, served as a campus pastor at Elevation Church, and is now the Lead Pastor of The Well Church in Tennessee. He shares about the pain of growing up with an incredibly tumultuous homelife; homelesses, abuse, violence, instability, and how he has transformed the pain of his past into purpose for his present.
Show Notes:
Free Audible Trial + Free Audiobook
Chris’s Website
@chrisbrownonair
Tova Sido is an author, speaker, podcaster, counselor, and minister. She shares her journey through the loss of her children. Tova has so much wisdom to share about grief, faith, and the beauty of healing.
Tova’s Website
The Remedy Podcast
Tova’s Books
Siete Tortillas
@tova.sido
A special SWEpisode full of lots of fun announcements!! Listen to hear the news!
Show Notes:
www.kaitlinelliott.com
@kaitlingrace20
@so.what.else
Today, on So...What Else? we have Christine Kreisher and you are just going to love her. Christine is a podcaster, author, speaker, coach, and CEO of Irresistible Teams where she serves alongside leaders from around the world to develop thriving staff and volunteer cultures. We chat about so many things from podcasting to owning a cafe to Christine’s incredible story of life transformation. She is a delight! Enjoy!
Show Notes:
Christine’s Podcast - Live Your Freakin’ Life
Christine’s Book - The Volunteer Project
www.irresistibleteams.org
Christinekreisher.com
Kill The Spider
@ckreisher
It’s a SWEpisode day! The regular crew is here to talk all about Dental Health, canker sores, Emily and Matt’s new pet, and some pillow-talk.
Show Notes:
Kanka
Hims
Smile Direct Club
Luminex Teeth Whitening
Cheer on Netflix
Pillow Cube
Today we have THE Toni Nieuwhof on SWE! She has worn many hats in her life as a pharmacist, attorney, speaker, author, podcaster, wife, and mother. Today she talks with us about her book, Before You Split. If you're in a relationship, this episode is for you as Toni provides her unique perspective on whether to stay or split in the midst of a troubled relationship.
Show Notes:
Free Audible Trial & Audiobook!
Toni’s Website
Before You Split
@toninieuwhof
The Smart Family Podcast
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
www.kaitlinelliott.com
Lisa Nadine is an addictions counselor, speaker, and author. Today, she shares her heartbreaking story of losing her son to drug addiction. We talked about so many things in this episode - loss, grief, addiction, mastering your mind…you don’t want to miss this one.
Show Notes:
The Veil Between Us
Switch on Your Brain
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
www.kaitlinelliott.com
This week we are going THERE….Yes, we are talking all about SEX. From purity culture to coercion, arousal, porn, vaginismus, to lust…we talk about it all and you do not want to miss it.
Show Notes:
Free 30 day Audible Trial!
www.audibletrial.com/SWE
www.againstthearrow.com click SHOP
Use code SWE10 for 10% off
The Bare Marriage Podcast
To Love Honor and Vacuum (Sheila’s Blog)
The Good Guys Guide to Great Sex
The Good Girl’s Guide to Great Sex
Pre-Order Bonuses!
The Great Sex Rescue
@sheilagregoire
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
One minute before we hit the record button, we stupidly said “Do you think we have enough to talk about tonight?” and then we talked for an hour and 20 minutes about the Zombie Apocalypse, Matt fainting, Valentine’s Day fails, and we answer some of YOUR questions! We laughed so hard we cried, literally.
Our friend Nick’s Macarons!
https://monsieurmeringue.com
@monsieur.meringue.nj
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Kaitlinelliott.com
Kaitlin graduated from her Intuitive Eating Program! In this episode, she sits down with Scott to give all her thoughts about her journey from the last 15 months of working with her dietician! If you are new here, make sure to check out the following episodes:
- Episode 12 - Kaitlin’s Battle with an Eating Disorder
- Episode 13 - Interview with Lauren Smith (Intuitive Eating Dietician)
- Episode 26 - Body Image with Bri
- Episode 34 - Breaking Free From Body Shame with Jess Connolly
Show Notes:
Follow my dietician!! → @laurensbalancedbites
Work with Lauren
THE Intuitive Eating Book
Anti Diet
Today we have filmmakers Beau Rosario and Brandon Gulish, creators of the documentary The Elephants and the Grass. In this episode they share about the war in South Sudan, what drew them to make a documentary about the crisis there, and delve into the powerful story of a young refugee, Shamira, who's journey was the inspiration for their film.
Show Notes:
Elephants and Grass Website
@elephantsandgrass
Donate Here: https://waterisbasic.networkforgood.com/projects/78190-
the-bricks-documentary
@brandon.gulish
@beautographer
@healingtreeorg
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Kaitlinelliott.com
Today we have Rebekah DiGavero on the podcast to share about a night in August of 2019 where she and her twin sister were held at gunpoint. Listen to hear Rebekah’s incredible story of survival and healing.
Show Notes:
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Kaitlinelliott.com
Jenn Jett Barrett joins us on the podcast this week and she is a DELIGHT. Jenn shares about her experience walking through a very challenging marriage and divorce, and sheds amazing light on this complicated topic. We know you are going to love her and be inspired by her story.
Jenn Jett Barrett is a dreamer, a doer and a champion of risk takers. She spends her life unleashing women to co-labor for the Kingdom by finding clarity, confidence and freedom. She does this through The Well Summit which exists to create safe spaces & experiences for women who sit in the tension of feeling too much and not enough. She lives an incredibly abundant life in Northwest Arkansas married to her blind date and best friend. Her journey has been a story she never would have chosen, but one she would never trade. Her faith has been tested time and again and proves the incredible power of the resurrection and the freedom that comes through it.
Show Notes:
Jenn’s Website
The Well Summit
@jenn_jett
@thewellsummit
Everything Bagel Hummus
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Happy birthday to SWE! We have officially been at this for a whole YEAR! THANK YOU to anyone who has listened, shared, rated, reviewed, texted, encouraged- we love you all!
In this week’s episode, Kaitlin, Scott, Matt, and Emily reflect on the first year of the podcast. Kaitlin also gives a laser hair removal update, we chat about DWTS, TMJ, CBD…it’s a packed episode!
Show Notes:
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
On today's episode we welcome Kristi Blackburn. Kristi is married to Davey Blackburn, who you might remember from Episode 44! Today, Kristi shares about growing up in a home where she struggled to feel safe, getting physically attacked as an adult, going through a divorce, and then blending a family with her husband, Davey. She is such a sweet soul with lots of wisdom.
Kristi is a Physician Assistant, online wellness coach, and a cookbook author. She is also the co-founder of Nothing is Wasted Ministries with her husband, Davey, and is mom to Natalia, Weston, and Cohen.
Show Notes:
Nothing is Wasted Podcast
Kristi’s Website
Root and Marrow Cookbook
@kristi.blackburn.niw
Today we welcome coach, consultant, and communicator, Monica Zuniga Bailey to the podcast! Monica shares her powerful story of a night when she was tragically raped. She has since been on a road to healing and restoration from distorted feelings of self blame and punishment from God.
Show Notes:
Monica’s Website
@monicaamanda.co
We Are Unveiled
@weareunveiled
Kaitlin, Scott, and Matt sit down to debrief Christmas, discuss their different opinions about New Year's Resolutions, Scott’s journey with ADHD, and our shared love for Ted Lasso!
Show Notes:
@penniferlopez_official
West & Willow
Laser Hair Removal Device
Risen Motherhood
Matthew McConaughey Book
Laura Vanderkam Books
Simon Sinek
Marco Polo
Dr. Jim Owen
Ted Lasso
Thank you, thank you, thank you to everyone who listened, shared, rated, or did anything to support this podcast! We'll be back next week with a brand new episode. Happy New Year, Happy Holidays, and again...thank you!
Amber Newberry is a Trauma Informed Yoga Therapist and the founder of Beautiful and Beloved. On today’s episode, she shares about how she was sexually assaulted at age 15 and then raped at age 19. She talks about how these experiences impacted her life and then led her to pursue healing through Holy Yoga.
Show Notes:
Beautifulandbeloved.com
@beautifulandbeloved
Cornzapoppin
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Davey Blackburn shares his devastating and powerful story with us today on the podcast. He walks us through the tragic loss of his late wife, Amanda, and how God has used her story to impact so many other people.
Show Notes:
Nothing is Wasted
Text “NIW” to 66866 to get 21 days of devotions
Nothing is Wasted Podcast
Davey Blackburn
Run Toward the Roar
GMA
Spiritual Pathways
@daveyblackburn
@nothingiswastedminitries
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
www.kaitlinelliott.com
On today's SWEpisode (a new term that we just made up) we have a wild time chatting about Christmas gifting methods, laser hair removal, Santa, Matt’s new video project, and we also debrief the Rachel Henry episode and a whole lot more!
Show Notes:
Summit One Vanderbilt
@kcglamour
EMDR
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Rachel Henry vulnerably shares the story of the night that she was sexually assaulted by three men in her home. Even though her story is traumatic, I left my conversation with Rachel feeling deeply encouraged. Hearing her talk about her life after this trauma is truly beautiful. Her journey of healing and forgiveness is incredible.
Show Notes:
RAINN
Rachel’s Website
Nothing is Wasted
simonandrachelhenry@gmail.com
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
You’ve heard us mention it before on SWE…but what really IS the Enneagram? Why should I care about it? Can it actually help me? Listen in to Enneagram Coach, Kate Doyle, share the answers to all of these questions and more! Kate shares how the study of the Enneagram changed her life and how it can change yours too.
Show Notes:
@againstthearrow
Www.againstthearrow.com
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Today Jonathan McComb shares his intense story of surviving a flash flood in 2015. Sadly, this flood claimed the lives of his wife, children, and dear friends. Listen in to Jonathan’s story of what he went through that night and how he rebuilt his life in the years to come.
Show Notes:
@jonthan.mccomb
TEXSAR
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Kaitlinelliott.com
Today on the podcast we have Rochelle Miller. I met Roe at the funeral of our dear mutual friend, Josh “Sego” Segoviano. His story is detailed in Episode 14 of the podcast so make sure you check that out if you haven’t heard it yet!
Today, Roe vulnerably shares about a devastating trial she and her husband lived through in 2013. Roe was about halfway through her pregnancy when her doctors told her that her son was “incompatible with life.” She then was faced with many hard decisions: should she terminate the pregnancy? Should she believe for a miracle? Listen to hear how Roe and her husband Danny walked through this time together.
Show Notes:
Full Sail University
Chocolate Hummus
@growwith_ro
rochelle.miller2@gmail.com
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Today on SWE we have two of my favorite people on planet Earth...my sisters Emily & Caroline! You’ve heard them on here before, but today we have them on to chat about so many different topics! We discuss Caroline’s interesting sweater choice, other fashion trends, an update on our Mom and her health, we play Sister Trivia, and so much more!
Show Notes:
Emily’s Favorite Chai Tea
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Kaitlinelliott.com
Today on SWE we have Kerry Baker! I used to babysit Kerry’s adorable kids back when I was in college, so I’ve known the Bakers for awhile! Kerry shares with us today about the nightmare she walked through when her two year old son was diagnosed with Lymphoma.
Show Notes:
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Kaitlinelliott.com
Today we have the lovely Sabrina Vroeg of Sabrina Vroeg Interiors! She is here to give us all the home decorating tips- where to shop, how to style your dresser, holiday decorating, faux vs. real plants….we talk about it all! Go follow her on instagram RIGHT NOW to get majorly inspired.
Show Notes:
www.sabrinavroeg.com
@sabrinavroeginteriors
Higher End Stores
Lulu & Georgia
McGee & Co.
Anthropologie
CB2
Burke Decor
Meadow Blu
Crate & Barrel
Pottery Barn
Restoration Hardware
West Elm
Article
Budget Friendly Stores
Target
Zara Home
H&M Home
World Market
Wayfair
Overstock
Home Goods/Home Sense
Today, Retha Nichole joins us on SWE! She is a business coach, life coach, and the creator of “Sunday Planning.” Years ago, Retha went through a devastating time when her husband slipped into a coma. While she was caring for him, she discovered some things about her husband that rocked her world. Listen to hear her incredible story.
Show Notes:
https://www.thespcircle.com
https://www.rethanichole.com
@rethanichole
@spcircle
Text “Sunday Planning” to (404)737-3143 to get three encouraging texts a week from Retha!
Today on So...What Else? we have Jess Connolly to talk about her book Breaking Free From Body Shame! I was so jazzed when I got the invite to sit in on this podcast panel with Jess. In this episode, she talks about her journey of breaking free from body shame, why she thinks this topic tends to be absent in the church-world, how to prevent children from growing up with body shame, and so much more! Jess is the author of nine books, a church leader, and a coach.
Show Notes:
Breaking Free from Body Shame
The Coaching Habit
@jessaconnolly
@breakingfreefrombodyshame
@goandtellgals
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Today is a fun one! We have the SWE Team plus a special guest to talk about everything from podcasting to blue suits to pretzel pillows. We laughed so much in the making of this episode (no, really I put about 56079 links in the show notes!!) - don’t miss it!
Show Notes:
Virile Barbershop
Hims
The Spa at the Broadmoor
Something Was Wrong Podcast
The Rise and Fall of Mars Hill
Unseminary Podcast
The Art Factory Wedding Venue
Mike Zawadzki Photography
Parenthood
Alone
Into the Night
9/11 Series: One Day In America
Mush
Chocolate Hummus
Boom Chicka Pop
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Today we have the fabulous Kat Lee on the show! She is an author, speaker, podcaster, and the founder of HelloMornings.org. Kat started Hello Mornings because a simple morning routine changed her life and she had to share it! She also has an inspiring life story that she shares with us. You can download chapter one of her book here.
Show Notes:
Hello Mornings Website
Hello Mornings Podcast
Hello Mornings Book
@hellokatlee
@hellomornings
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Kaitlinelliott.com
Our good friend from Season 1, Richard Lee, is back! But this time he is joined by his smarter and more attractive half - his lovely wife Theresa! We talk about Richard and Theresa’s experience growing up as Asian Americans, their experiences during COVID, and their reactions to the Atlanta shootings. You don’t want to miss this conversation!
Show Notes:
AACC
Spring Fertility
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Jaime Blaustein, CEO and Co-founder of the Sylvia Brafman Mental Health Center, who also happens to be my longtime friend, joins us today for an amazing episode. Jaime vulnerably shares about the dark years where he was trapped in drug addiction; arrests, overdoses, seven different rebab centers. He shares about his darkest days, his journey to getting clean, and his new life. The brand-new Sylvia Brafman Center opens just one week from today - on September 13th, 2021. Listen in to hear about Jaime’s incredible story.
Show Notes:
The Sylvia Brafman Mental Health Center
Same Here Global Interview
Jaime Speaks at Duke University
Today we have the wonderful Amy Gayhart with us! If you are a listener of the Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey, then you will recognize her voice for sure. Amy is mom to a daughter with special needs, the executive director of Blue Sky Therapeutic Riding and Respite, and also the co-host of the “Totally Worth It” Podcast.
Show Notes:
Smartless Podcast
Blue Sky Therapeutic
PURPOSE Mercantile
The Four Winds
Totally Worth it Podcast
Follow Amy on Instagram! @agayhart
@so.what.else @kaitlingrace20
This is our FIRST EVER So...What Else? Book Chat!!!! Kaitlin and three of her friends sit down to chat all about one of Kaitlin’s all time favorite novels: Daisy Jones & The Six. Even if you haven’t read this book, this episode is for you because it gets DEEP into discussions about marriage, love, lust, choosing someone...you don’t want to miss it!
Daisy Jones & The Six
Today we have Julia Regan! She shares her story of her journey walking through a time of intense struggle in her marriage - porn addiction, rage issues, alcoholism…Listen in to hear her powerful story.
Show Notes:
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
Today on “So...What Else?” we have Brianna Campos! She is a Licensed Professional Counselor with a speciality in Eating Disorder Recovery, she is a Body Image Educator, a Body Grief Coach, and the host of the “Body Image with Bri” Podcast. This is SUCH an important conversation and I know you are going to love it.
Show Notes:
Body Image with Bri Website
Body Image with Bri Podcast
bodyimagewithbri@gmail.com
Instagram → @bodyimagewithbri
Poodle Science Clip
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
And we’re BACK! Woohoo Season 2 baby! Kait, Scott, and a special guest sit down to talk about their crazy summer and what you can expect for Season 2 of SWE!
Show Notes:
Matt Carpenter: @matty_carps
Brianna Campos: @bodyimagewithbri
Richard Lee: @richardl.ee
Theresa Lee: @theresalee75
Amy Gayhart: @agayhart
Kat Lee: @hellokatlee @hellomornings
Sabrina Vroeg Interiors: @sabrinavroeginteriors
Daisy Jones and the Six
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
It's our SEASON 1 FINALE!! Scott and Kaitlin sit down to answer some listener Q&As, reflect on Season 1, talk about some stuff goin on in our lives, and tell you what's coming up next for SWE!!
Show Notes:
The Happy Hour with Jamie Ivey Podcast
Armchair Expert Podcast (Dax Shepard)
@theramblingredhead
Rayban Aviators
Knock-off Roomba
Real Roomba
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
www.kaitlinelliott.com
Kaitlin's cousin Lauren is BACK to talk more about novels, our favorite TV show, her years-long battle with anxiety, and her thoughts on counseling, medication....lots of good stuff in this episode!
Show Notes:
Daisy Jones and the Six
The Great Alone
Aware
The Place We Find Ourselves Podcast
The Road Back to You
Anatomy of the Soul
Schitt's Creek
Collagen Peptides
@dematteolc
@so.what.else
Andrew shares his inspiring story of overcoming a gambling addiction.
Show Notes:
1-800-GAMBLER
andrewewertz@gmail.com
@so.what.else
@kaitlingrace20
kaitlinelliott.com
Cari and Jon Coords sit down this week to share the story of how three of their kids joined their family through adoption. They also share a bit about the challenges they have faced in being white parents raising black kids.
@upstagedbycari
Foster Care Info
Vicky's Book: Wounded But Not Broken
The Rookie
Blue Bloods
Saving Christianity
@so.what.else
kaitlinelliott.com
Marisol is the Founder and Executive Director of RENEW Life Center. RENEW walks alongside single moms to help them overcome generational poverty. In this episode Marisol shares her own personal story of growing up in poverty. One day, while working in a pregnancy center, Marisol received an email that rocked her world and started her journey toward building RENEW Life Center.
Show Notes:
RENEW Life Center
Life After Yes
When Helping Hurts
Generous Justice
Interested in getting involved? Call Marisol @ 908-578-4150
@so.what.else
Kaitlinelliott.com
Kaitlin interviews Scott and his two sisters, Kim & Tyann, about growing up with a sister with severe Cerebral Palsy and then losing her when she was almost 30 years old. There's also LOTS of other stuff like pee in a squirt bottle, how Scott and Kaitlin met, Kirk Cameron...We cried, and then we laughed until we cried. It’s a party. You don’t wanna miss it.
Show notes: * Safe Families (Foster Program) * The Chosen (TV Series) * Praying the Scriptures for Your Adult Children * Emotionally Healthy Spirituality * The Simple Wild * Maybe You Should Talk to Someone * The Boys in the Boat * Mully (Documentary)
Amanda is a wife, mom to two babies, and a hairdresser. She came on the podcast and shared about what it was like having both of her children in the NICU. We talk about lots of mom stuff, check it out!
YETI
@amanda_sobo
Scott and Kaitlin sit down with the Birches for this fun-filled episode. They chat about Canada, ministry, parenting, TV shows, the Peloton…
Christine is on staff at Connexus Church, Rich is the director at Camp Mini-Yo-We, in addition to being the creator of UnSeminary (a leading Christian podcast, blog, website, book).
Show Notes:
Unseminary
@unSeminary
Camp Mini-Yo-We
Connexus Church
CANADA
Parenthood (the best show ever)
This is Us
Peloton
www.Kaitlinelliott.com
@so.what.else
Growing up in Zimbabwe, birthing twins, NICU, anti-depressants, anaphylaxis, Netlfix shows....
Kim's Convenience
Virgin River
Sweet Magnolias
Made Good Snacks
Popcorners
@so.what.else
www.kaitlinelliott.com
Chelsea bravely shares about the journey she and her husband walked as he battled a rare form of cancer.
www.kaitlinelliott.com
@so.what.else
Today we have Registered Dietician, Lauren Smith, on the pod talking about Intuitive Eating, exercise, body image….check out the show notes for so many amazing resources!
Show Notes:
Book: Intuitive Eating
Apply to Work With Lauren!
Follow Lauren on Instagram → @laurensbalancedbites
Questions? Email Lauren → lauren@happystronghealthyrd.com
What the Actual Fork Podcast
Body Image with Bri Podcast
Food Psych Podcast
www.kaitlinelliott.com
Follow us on instagram! → @so.what.else
Kaitlin shares about her battle with an Eating Disorder and her journey to freedom.
Show Notes:
Book: Life Without Ed
National Eating Disorder Association
What the Actual Fork Podcast
www.kaitlinelliott.com
@so.what.else
Kaitlin sits down with her sisters to reflect about the life and loss of their brother, Joe, and where they are now six and half years later.
This week Kaitlin is joined by TWO friends from Colorado! They talk about teaching, leggings, books....and Amy & Lisa bravely share about their experiences with fertility struggles and miscarriage.
Show Notes:
Redeeming Love
Enough About Me
Maybe You Should Talk To Someone
Colorfulkoala Leggings
Arbonne
Kaitlinelliott.com
@so.what.else
Sweatsuits, melasma, foster care, adoption....this is a packed episode!
SHOW NOTES:
Sweat Suits
Kaitlin’s Sweat Suits:
Target Sweatshirt Target Sweatpants
Aerie Shorts Aerie Sweatshirt
Kate’s Sweat Suit
Gap Sweatpants Gap Sweatshirt
Melasma Cream
Musely
Enneagram Stuff
Enneagram Institute
Book: The Road Back To You
Kensie Co
Instagram: @kensieco
Kensie Co Etsy Shop
The Usual Stuff:
www.kaitlinelliott.com
@so.what.else
The Central Jersey Debate, a broken engagement, and I Love Lucy...LOVED recording this episode and I know you'll love it too!
kaitlinelliott.com
@so.what.else
Show Notes:
TV Shows - The Good Place, Parenthood
Books - The Nightingale, The Great Alone, Where the Crawdads Sing, Educated
The story of how one night can change your life, and the journey to healing, forgiveness, and restoration....and some Real Housewives thrown in there as well (yes, again. I promise we won't bring it up again for at least 2 weeks...)
kaitlinelliott.com
@so.what.else
Mental Health, Human Trafficking, and how to make yourself look pretty on Zoom calls
Richard Lee is a friend, host of The Pursuit Podcast, and is the Global Director of Public Engagement at International Justice Mission.
@thepursuitcast
ijm.org
@so.what.else
kaitlinelliott.com
Power Walking, Joy for Ministry, The Real Housewives (of course), deliberate healing....we cover a lot of ground in this week's episode!
Kaitlin's (big, loud, crazy) Italian family joined her for this BONUS episode! They talk about family movie nights, Caroline being a rebel, and Dad tells everyone he hates them.... it's a good time!
kaitlinelliott.com
@so.what.else
Infidelity, trusting God, hope, and restoration. And....almost dying on a mission trip.
www.kaitlinelliott.com
@so.what.else
Postpartum depression, unexpected pregnancy, church camp memories and of course.... marco polo!
Being a stepmom, caring for a child with physical disabilites, vacuums and Athleta pants...
Kaitlin gives us a sneak peak at what the podcast is all about, why she started it, and what we can hope to hear!