It Gets Messy: Recent Episodes
Hashim Warren
“It Gets Messy” is a conversation between two Christian friends working out what it means to follow Jesus, outside of traditions and culture. Hosted by Vantage and Hashim.
Season one tackles purity culture.
Vantage and Hashim have spoken a lot about the pitfalls of out-of-control purity culture in the church.
Now we talk about what we love about the sexual purity the Bible calls to, and the impact it had on our lives.
Vantage and Hashim count down the top purity culture rules you can find in Christian churches. They discuss bans on R-Rated music, being alone with a woman who's not your wife, dating outside your denomination, and more.
How can we live out the sexual purity Jesus calls us to without forcing purity culture rules on each other? Hashim and Vantage explore what they call "Grace Culture" and the scriptures that form the foundation for how God wants us to grow in love and holiness through grace. This includes Colossians 2:20-23, Titus 2:11-14, Romans 2:1-4.
Which 3 scriptures do Christians stretch and mishandle to promote purity culture?
In this episode Vantage and Hashim discuss what the Bible says about sexual purity how that has been twisted into the justification for purity culture. We discuss the difference between using sexual purity to foster love and freedom, and using it to control others.
Timestamps
1:53 Pillar 1: "Not Even a Hint" from Ephesians 5
4:00 Pillar 2: "Gouge out Your Eye" from Matthew 5
15:05 Pillar 3: "Absolute Purity" from 1Timothy 5
In this background episode of "It Gets Messy", Vantage and Hashim discuss their journey to faith, how it enabled their ascent into the Black Middle Class, and how that informed their embrace and rejection of church purity culture.
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