What comes after the age of mass tourism? If you love the travel industry or the place where you live and want to make it better, this show is for you.
The Travel Beyond podcast brings you the people and places taking action toward a sustainable, just, and thriving future for all. The solutions are in sight.
We partner with leading destinations working toward an industry that respects the needs of residents, visitors, and the environment – a regenerative future where all people can flourish.
You’ll learn how other places are dealing with climate risks and environmental preservation by hearing from like-minded thinkers who have been moving toward regenerative travel for their whole careers.
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During her time as Visit Bend’s first Sustainability Director, Serena Gordon worked to help locals reap the rewards of their hometown’s popularity through programs like the Bend Sustainability Fund. She shares advice for other destination leaders working for change.
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Undersea pyramids and above-ground mangrove forests are the topics of discussion today as we visit the Caribbean Conference on Sustainable Tourism Development in Grenada. Phil Saye started the Grenada Artificial Reef Project in 2013 to encourage coral growth using simple techniques. It’s a successful experiment that can be replicated elsewhere, Phil says, and he shares not only why the project is so important to the ecosystem, but how the project is set up to leave a legacy that will outlast this generation.
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Which conversations are we avoiding in the travel industry? Destination managers and travel industry leaders are under increasing public pressure to follow up their sustainable words with action, says today’s guest, Signe Jungersted. Signe worked on The End of Tourism As We Know It strategy as Director of Development at Wonderful Copenhagen. She continues to lead destinations and communities through change at Group NAO, where she is CEO and Founding Partner. This episode, she explains why the tourism industry needs to take itself seriously as a solution to the climate crisis and why the best pathway forward for DMOs is to step into a more expansive role.
Plus, we share a few new examples of climate resilience projects happening in tourism destinations.
This episode originally aired in January 2024.
Read the blog at: https://destinationthink.com/blog/whats-taboo-conversations-the-travel-industry-isnt-having-yet/
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The director of the Danish Architecture Center highlights the center's role as a catalyst for promoting sustainable urban development. We explore how inclusive approaches to urban planning are vital in shaping Copenhagen’s future and tourism's positive impact in spreading knowledge beyond the city.
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Like a souvenir that takes up no room in your suitcase, learning has always fit perfectly with travel. And some entrepreneurs in Copenhagen have taken it upon themselves to ensure travellers are going home with a better understanding of how to advocate for change in their communities and take small steps to make better choices in their personal lives.
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The solutions to the world's problems already exist, says architect Anders Lendager. This episode, Anders tells us about his journey towards sustainable architecture, emphasizing the need for transformative "lighthouse" projects that can show the way forward. Through examples of his designs like Upcycle House and Resource Rows, he shows that sustainable solutions provide an economic advantage. We also chat about the role of travel in promoting sustainable practices and hear about some of the opportunities ahead for cities seeking a sustainable future.
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Travel destinations can gather support to lead large-scale sustainability actions, says Wonderful Copenhagen CEO Mikkel Aarø-Hansen. He shares how his destination management organization, in coalition with others, influenced the cruise industry to pollute less. Mikkel also tells us about the two biggest jobs ahead for sustainability-minded destinations and their leaders.
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“Don’t copy, be inspired.” What’s it like to have a long-term vision and then see it come true? We get into it with Jens Kramer Mikkelsen, Copenhagen’s longest-serving mayor. From 1989 to 2004, Jens led the city by assembling a broad coalition of support for major infrastructure projects that have helped make Copenhagen the vibrant global capital it is today.
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How can travellers make a positive impact when they visit and take home some sustainable values? Two leaders from local NGOs in Načiks (Tofino) tell us about their organizations’ long-term restoration projects, relationships with local First Nations, and how they are trying to encourage a culture of conservation among visitors. This is a two-part episode featuring Emily Fulton of Redd Fish Restoration Society and Michelle Hall of Clayoquot Sound Biosphere Trust.
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How can travellers make a positive impact when they visit and take home sustainable values? Two leaders from local NGOs in Načiks (Tofino) tell us about their organizations’ long-term restoration projects, relationships with local First Nations, and how they are trying to encourage a culture of conservation among visitors. This is a two-part episode featuring Emily Fulton of Redd Fish Restoration Society and Michelle Hall of Clayoquot Sound Biosphere Trust.
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How to be an ally to First Nations? Within Tofino’s tourism industry, one way is to pledge your business to the Tribal Parks Allies program. The program provides direct benefits, financial and otherwise, to the Tla-o-qui-aht First Nation, where the town is located. Can this model of settler-Indigenous allyship spread to other places? We speak with Julian Hockin-Grant to learn about how this project came to be and where it might go next.
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The travel industry has been selling “wilderness” adventures for a long time. But does wilderness really exist? This episode we learn from two Tla-o-qui-aht leaders about their culture’s care for the environment, why many Indigenous languages have no word for wilderness, and how Indigenous knowledge can unlock new ways of practicing respectful travel. We also learn about the ʔiisaak Pledge and how Tribal Parks Guardians are protecting the lands many people visit.
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In 1984, a logging blockade led to the creation of the first Tribal Park near Tofino, British Columbia. Four decades later, the Tribal Parks Allies program is building a coalition of support for restoration among members of the tourism industry. The project brings in reliable funding for Indigenous-led sustainable projects and cultural revitalization. Saya Masso, Lands and Resource Director at Tla-o-qui-aht First Nation, explains the positive impact alongside a history lesson about those who have protected the forests.
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A social enterprise and a stewardship fee from tourism businesses are two ways Ahousaht First Nation is regaining the ability to control its tourism destiny. Head Hereditary Chief Hasheukumiss (Richard George) and Hereditary Chief ?ikaatius (Tyson Atleo) are co-owners of Ahous Adventures on behalf of the Nation. They describe these solutions and others they’re using to care for nature, lift up their people, and point the way to a flourishing future.
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This season of Travel Beyond shows a way forward for every place threatened by climate risks or grappling with what it means to host visitors on Indigenous territory. Welcome to Načiks (Tofino).
During 2023’s bustling summer, the only route in and out of Tofino, British Columbia was blocked by wildfires for 17 days. Brad Parsell of Tourism Tofino shares how the community responded and why every positive change a travel organization can make relies on rock solid relationships. Elder and former Chief Moses Martin of Tla-o-qui-aht First Nation tells us about the 1980s-90s War in the Woods and the impact Indigenous stewardship has had on protecting the lush environment so many visitors now enjoy.
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Auden Schendler is a decades-long corporate sustainability veteran and climate leader with Aspen Skiing Company. He shares what’s worked, what hasn’t, and why truly effective climate action in business comes from wielding power and influence to drive systemic change.
Read Aspen One’s 2024 sustainability report called “25 Years of Questions”: https://www.aspensnowmass.com/discover/sustainability
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Since 2022, Bhutan’s Sustainable Development Fee has gone through some dramatic changes, rising from $65 to $200 per day before falling to $100 with allowances for longer stays. Why? As international travel grows, the country continues its search for the right harmony between visitors, residents, and the environment, which means making sure the Bhutanese public benefits from the wealth tourism can bring. The visitors fee is one piece of that puzzle.
In this updated replay episode from season one, our 2022 conversation with Damcho Rinzin from the Tourism Council of Bhutan outlines the thinking behind the sustainable tourism solutions they’ve been working on since the 1970s, and we share a new update on their recent progress.
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Travellers are always looking for connection, says Sunrise When the Salmon Come (Cheryl Chapman). Cheryl works with Indigenous Tourism BC to make that connection happen, assisting Indigenous communities and entrepreneurs in sharing their living culture with visitors. She openly shares some of the challenges of telling the truth about colonialism’s impacts on First Nations, and tells us how she weaves together a fuller picture of history that leads people to consider how interconnected we are with the land, other people, and all life.
Content warning: This episode contains frank discussions of Canada’s residential school system and abuses stemming from colonialism in BC.
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In 2017 came the wildfires. In 2020, the pandemic. In a time of dramatic changes and climate risks, it’s easy to see why this region might be feeling a little disaster fatigue. But Cariboo Chilcotin Coast Tourism Association is working to support the tourism industry as operators share successes, deliver experiences, and plan for the future. CEO Amy Thacker describes the role her organization is filling and why sustainable actions come naturally to locals, even if they’d use other words to describe it.
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Can travel lead to truth and reconciliation? Mike Retasket, former five-term Chief of Bonaparte First Nation in British Columbia, describes how he shares the dark aspects of history with travellers, and how that storytelling can lead to healing. He’s enthusiastic about the opportunities tourism can bring to Indigenous communities, and he shares his unusual journey into the travel industry.
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Hop on the gondola – here’s another tourism operator leading the way to carbon zero in Queenstown Lakes. Trent Yeo tells us about building a business in harmony with his values for sustainability and community.
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What do sustainable solutions in travel really look like? We visit The Headwaters Eco Lodge at Camp Glenorchy, where Rodney tours through a whole host of climate-friendly operations that are leading the way to a decarbonized visitor economy in Queenstown Lakes.
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Which conversations are we avoiding in the travel industry? Destination managers and travel industry leaders are under increasing public pressure to follow up their sustainable words with action, says today’s guest, Signe Jungersted. Signe worked on The End of Tourism As We Know It strategy as Director of Development at Wonderful Copenhagen. She continues to lead destinations and communities through change at Group NAO, where she is CEO and Founding Partner. In this episode, she explains why the tourism industry needs to take itself seriously as a solution to the climate crisis and why the best pathway forward for DMOs is to step into a more expansive role.
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Noosa’s residents and council are teaming up, Alaska’s bursting with new energy, and tourism on Fogo Island has a nutritious impact. Destination Think’s Climate Strategist Tyler Robinson joins co-producers Sara Raymond de Booy and David Archer to appreciate some fine examples of leadership and action in the travel industry. All the green energy is warming our hearts and sparking our imaginations.
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Copenhagen is often thought of as the greenest city in the world. But they didn’t earn that title by accident. We sit down with the CEO at Wonderful Copenhagen, Mikkel Aarø-Hansen, to learn about his approach to making change and his inspiring advice for leaders hoping to do the same.
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97% of Valencia’s inhabitants live within 300 metres of green urban areas and it’s set to be named 2024’s Green Capital by the European Commission. A combination of brilliant data gathering, initiatives to improve liveability, and policies supporting Sustainability are making a huge positive impact on residents and visitors alike. We chat with Visit Valencia’s Miguel Angel Perez Alba to learn more about the wins and challenges he’s working with to keep making a difference.
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Carbon Neutral by 2030: that’s what Oslo is tirelessly working toward. From a harbour that’s clean enough to swim in for the first time in years through to a huge uptake in EV adoption, Norway is already seeing the benefits of thinking long-term. In this chat with Anne-Signe Fagereng from Visit Oslo, we learn about how this progress is being made within tourism specifically, and the role marketing is playing in ensuring that tourism aligns with the city’s larger goal.
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Glasgow has always been a city driven by innovation, and its ambition led it to be selected for hosting COP26 back in 2021. In two years, the legacy of the massive global event can still be felt in the city. Aileen Crawford sits down with us to discuss how and why Glasgow and its citizens are driving change forward.
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Inuvik residents are making sustainable practices happen as they adapt to a changing climate in the Arctic. We learn about innovations in agriculture, home heating, visitor experiences, and North America's most northern apple trees.
With thanks to the Town of Inuvik for sponsoring this season.
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Inuvik is a northern gathering point for climate scientists. Two of them share their perspectives on, travel, the changing climate, and communicating with the public.
With thanks to the Town of Inuvik for sponsoring this season.
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“I think there's lessons to be learned if we're willing to listen.” The North has a lot to teach us. We listen and learn about what drives this community’s values and its approach to making tourism work for locals.
With thanks to the Town of Inuvik for sponsoring this season.
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“We've learned to live on one of the harshest areas of this planet by working together.” Gwich’in Grand Chief Ken Kyikavachik and Inuvialuit artist Bambi Amos tell us about staying connected to the land and Indigenous culture amid today’s challenges.
With thanks to the Town of Inuvik for sponsoring this season.
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There’s only once scenario that Bernadett Papp and her team identified that will allow for tourism to meet Paris Agreement goals by 2030. And surprisingly, that solution still lets us travel –just a little differently. Learn more about the scenario, restrictions that are needed, and what people and governments need to do differently in order for tourism to continue to flourish.
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We work in tourism every day, but how often do we zoom out and consider the industry from a birds eye view? Tourism is interconnected to so many aspects of our larger economies and so many of the world’s issues are interrelated. Let’s examine that with Dr. Ljubica Knežević Cvelbar and learn about the benefits that can come from changing our mindset and broadening our perspectives on the challenges we face.
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The Elephant in the Room: that's what some of Europe's travel leaders met in Sofia to discuss earlier this year. From climate emergencies to maintaining resident quality of life, there are solutions all over Europe that are addressing these externalities and changing the way cities are being managed. But is it enough? And is implementation happening quickly enough? We sat down with some of Europe's boldest leaders to learn about what is being done and what is holding them back.
In this quick chat, we sit down with Elke Dens of the Travel Foundation to learn about how Visit Flanders took a different approach to measuring success. Elke shares tips for looking holistically at tourism to find solutions.
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In our final episode of our Netherlands season, we’re wrapping up by speaking with a few organizations putting theory into practice and providing solutions that will help NBTC’s plan come to life.
Presented by Destination Think with thanks to the Netherlands Board of Tourism & Conventions.
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You might have heard about circular economies lately, but have you thought about how they can really help a region’s relationship with tourism? In this episode, we travel to Friesland to visit with a few passionate residents eager to share their view of sustainability with visitors.
Presented by Destination Think with thanks to the Netherlands Board of Tourism & Conventions.
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From Stay Away Campaigns and big changes to its Red Light District, Amsterdam’s bold approaches to improving liveability have been making headlines lately. In this conversation with Amsterdam & Partners’ Director Geerte Udo, we examine what defines a visitor of value, how to find common ground to create policy change, and her hopes for travel in the future.
**NOTE: this podcast mentions the "Stay Away" campaign. We want to clarify that the campaign is put on by the city of Amsterdam, not Amsterdam & Partners.
Presented by Destination Think with thanks to the Netherlands Board of Tourism & Conventions.
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KLM’s Director of Climate Policy discusses how the airline is taking a holistic approach to sustainability, why it’s important for people passionate about climate change work in aviation, and how airlines need to re-think how they address environmental and social responsibilities.
Presented by Destination Think with thanks to the Netherlands Board of Tourism & Conventions.
The managing director of the Netherlands Board of Tourism and Conventions discusses the paradigm shifts and sustainability efforts being made in response to the challenges of overtourism and climate change, as well as the reactions and actions taken by various stakeholders in the industry.
Presented by Destination Think with thanks to the Netherlands Board of Tourism & Conventions.
Let’s reflect on why we care about using travel to make the world a better place. It’s something Ewout Versloot, a strategist with the Netherlands Board of Tourism & Conventions (and a new father), has been thinking about a lot. We sit down with him to learn about his perspective on the current state of tourism and how that has impacted NBTC’s new vision going forward.
Presented by Destination Think and sponsored by the Netherlands Board of Tourism & Conventions.
Having customers send your Senator a million postcards, building a methane-capture energy plant, funding an outdoor sustainability movement: these are not the typical actions of a big tourism business. But Aspen Skiing Company isn’t exactly typical. Auden Schendler, Senior VP of Sustainability, tells us about the company’s journey to adopting sustainable values and business practices, along with examples of what positive change looks like as a collective and as individuals.
Presented by Destination Think and sponsored by Aspen Chamber Resort Association.
You can’t travel without transportation. And in this episode, we speak with two of the people responsible for making sure people in Aspen can get from A to B. They present some of the solutions that improve experiences for locals and visitors alike.
Presented by Destination Think and sponsored by Aspen Chamber Resort Association.
“Communities get what they deserve,” says Steve Skadron, Aspen’s former mayor who now leads an initiative in the town’s growing circular economy through a new program at Colorado Mountain College. Learn why positive change relies on values and public participation, and about the role of travel in helping the world adapt to today’s challenges.
Presented by Destination Think and sponsored by Aspen Chamber Resort Association.
The internationally known Aspen Ideas Festival draws the most celebrated minds across many disciplines in arts, culture, science, business, politics, and beyond. Learn how The Aspen Institute has grown into a platform for ideas, influence, and community engagement that can shape the future.
Presented by Destination Think and sponsored by Aspen Chamber Resort Association.
“Failure is not an option,” says Gail Schwartz, former Colorado state senator and lifelong housing advocate, who tells us why the housing crisis is at the epicentre of social challenges in both the poorest and wealthiest areas of the US, and what can be done about it.
Presented by Destination Think and sponsored by Aspen Chamber Resort Association.
Aspen, Colorado has become known as a top-tier ski destination and a magnet for luxury travellers. What’s next? The city’s destination management plan sets the course for a thriving future – guided by residents.
Presented by Destination Think and sponsored by Aspen Chamber Resort Association.
What was once a Ute Nation hunting territory became a mining town and is now a place where the elite vacation. Aspen, Colorado is a top-tier mountain destination that has become a magnet for visitors, power brokers, new ideas, and philanthropy. How did Aspen get here, and what transformations are happening today alongside such wealth and influence? Join us this season as we delve into Aspen’s innovations related to sustainability and travel, and the community’s destination management plan that ties it all together. If you are a travel or community leader who wants to make lasting, positive change happen, Aspen has plenty to teach you.
Presented by Destination Think and sponsored by Aspen Chamber Resort Association.
Trent Yeo is a tourism entrepreneur and changemaker who has spent his career educating people about travel's impact on nature while leading by example. He articulates visions of a better future. And he observes that more people are taking the travel industry's privilege and responsibility seriously in a way that is moving Queenstown Lakes toward carbon zero by 2030 – while recognizing that the speed of change must increase.
To connect with more people and places making the world better through travel, and to stay up-to-date on Queenstown Lakes’ journey toward decarbonization, visit destinationthink.com/travel-beyond-podcast/
Tim Barke, Lake Wānaka Tourism’s CEO, tells us about the passionate input locals provided to shape the district’s destination management plan and, ultimately, the goal to reach carbon zero by 2030. He also shares some of the climate-related innovations already happening here. Darren Rewi and Mike Rewi of Mana Tahuna Charitable Trust provide a Māori perspective on caring for the environment and how they are striving to be role models for the next generations.
To connect with more people and places making the world better through travel, and to stay up-to-date on Queenstown Lakes’ journey toward decarbonization, visit destinationthink.com/travel-beyond-podcast/
The leader of Destination Queenstown tells us why travel has to lead decarbonization in Queenstown Lakes, what motivates locals and the tourism industry, and how the district can start to address its biggest emissions challenges.
To connect with more people and places making the world better through travel, and to stay up-to-date on Queenstown Lakes’ journey toward decarbonization, visit destinationthink.com/travel-beyond-podcast/
Momentum toward a regenerative economy has been building for years in Queenstown Lakes. Monique Kelly, co-founder of the Wao organization, a leader in the sustainability movement, and local business owner, clarifies why everyone's feeling so motivated and how new, climate-friendly systems are emerging.
If Queenstown Lakes' tourism industry decarbonizes by 2030, it will be the world's first. District policy leaders tell us what makes this goal so powerful. Featuring Michelle Morss, General Manager of Strategy and Policy, and Mayor Glyn Lewers of the Queenstown Lakes District Council.
To connect with more people and places making the world better through travel, and to stay up-to-date on Queenstown Lakes’ journey toward decarbonization, visit destinationthink.com/travel-beyond-podcast/
We travel to Queenstown Lakes, Aotearoa New Zealand, where the tourism industry has committed to reaching carbon zero by 2030. Ann Lockhart, who helped steer the destination planning process, tells us how the community made this decision.
This season, we travel to Queenstown Lakes on the South Island of Aotearoa New Zealand, where the district has set a goal to reach carbon zero by 2030. Meet the community leaders and travel entrepreneurs who have rallied local passion, ambition, and action behind this climate commitment.
How are popular tourism destinations like Aspen and Whistler providing secure, affordable housing, and what can DMOs do to help? In this final episode of the season, our guests offer hopeful solutions, cautionary tales, and perspectives from places that have been working to make housing more accessible for decades. Featuring Eliza Voss, VP Destination Marketing at the Aspen Chamber Resort Association; Aaron Orlando, Revelstoke city councillor; and Marla Zucht, General Manager of the Whistler Housing Authority.
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
The decision gave people goosebumps. Two regional tourism organizations in this popular Aotearoa New Zealand destination have led their community and stakeholders to commit to an audacious goal: to reach carbon zero by 2030. The target is meant to build momentum toward the kinds of bold climate action that are desperately needed in NZ and beyond. What made this commitment possible, and what’s next? We speak with two tourism leaders to find out: Mat Woods, CEO at Destination Queenstown and Tim Barke, CEO at Lake Wānaka Tourism.
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
With the right coordination, residents can shape their town’s tourism future. More than 1000 residents – about 13% of the total population – participated in the Revelstoke 2073 community survey to shape long-term planning. This episode provides an inside look at the themes from those results and the other creative ways Tourism Revelstoke has been engaging locals. Topics include visitation, development, climate, First Nations, arts and culture, and housing.
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
This small, mountainous nation between India and China has been proactively managing visitor numbers since the 1970s. Damcho Rinzin of the Tourism Council of Bhutan joins us to share some of the principles Bhutan has used to shape its tourism industry, along with some recent changes to protect local ways of life and the environment. There are lessons here for every place seeking a holistic benefit from tourism.
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
Our hosts ask two residents about the industry’s many impacts on the people who choose Revelstoke as their home and the possibilities it opens for the future. Miriam Manley, formerly of Arts Revelstoke and currently the Executive Director of the BC Touring Council, shares how the small city has become a “microcosm” of urban life. Local restauranteur and hotelier Stephen Jenkins tells us why he thinks the destination management process is vital to protecting the soul of the city he fell in love with.
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
Destination planning isn’t complete without emergency management. What should tourism destinations anticipate over the next 50 years? How well can we forecast fire seasons? Dr. Mike Flannigan is a BC-based wildfire and emergency management expert who tells us about some of the risks to Revelstoke along with advice for other places preparing for the possibility of climate-fuelled emergencies.
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
The climate crisis brings increasing risks to communities, but few people grasp the scale of the changes we’re living through. Journalist and climate futurist Alex Steffen is one of them. He talks to us about the “snap forward”, decarbonisation, the carbon bubble, ruggedization, best- and worst-case scenarios, and today’s opportunities for the places courageous enough to move first.
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
How can tourism support truth and reconciliation in Canada? We speak with Chief Frank Antoine of Bonaparte First Nation about his vision for a united future. He describes the potential for cultural exchange through tourism as Indigenous inclusion and participation in the industry increases. Frank invites us all on the learning journey.
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
These two residents know what makes Revelstoke tick. We interview Rosetta Bernava, a long-time early childhood educator at Red Wagon Preschool, who tells us how the city has changed during her career and what tourism’s impact has been. Taha Attiah, Community Development Coordinator at the City of Revelstoke, describes tourism’s effect on affordability and housing, which are among the community’s most critical issues today.
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
Revelstoke is a unique place, but its tourism challenges are not. What can the BC city learn from popular ski destinations like Vail, Aspen, and others where tourism has already grown for decades? We speak with Cathy Ritter, formerly the CEO of the Colorado Tourism Office, to find out.
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
Tourism in Revelstoke, BC is booming. As the community plans for a thriving future, what challenges lie ahead for residents and the tourism industry? Destination Canada’s CEO, Marsha Walden, shares her organization’s perspective on the potential for tourism to impact people and places for the better – if we find our “true north.”
Our hosts are Robyn Goldsmith, Destination & Sustainability Manager at Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne, CEO at Destination Think.
Welcome to Think Revelstoke, a show about the future of a town and the future of tourism.
What choices lie ahead for tourism destinations? Subscribe to find out as hosts Robyn Goldsmith of Tourism Revelstoke, and Rodney Payne of Destination Think, speak to local residents and renowned experts to unpack today’s greatest tourism challenges.