The State of Developer Education: Recent Episodes

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Join us as we level up the next generation of technologists! Welcome to The State of Developer Education, a podcast by Major League Hacking. We explore how developers should and are educated to help you - the next generation - prepare for the real world. I'm your host Jonathan Gottfried, co-founder, hacker, entrepreneur, and hobbyist baker.

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This panel is tailored for Developer Relations professionals, open source contributors, and tech community enthusiasts looking to deepen their understanding of DevRel in open source platforms. Our speakers will share their experiences and strategies for balancing community needs with company goals, sustaining open source ecosystems, and measuring success in DevRel.

Speakers
Aditya Oberai is a Developer Advocate at Appwrite and a tech community and hackathon enthusiast. With extensive experience in APIs, web and cross-platform apps, and cloud computing, Aditya has spent the last 5 years empowering tech communities. He is a Microsoft MVP, a National Winner in the Education category at Microsoft Imagine Cup 2021 India Chapter, and was named among Major League Hacking's Top 50 hackers of 2021. Recently, he was awarded "Best Developer Relations Professional of the Year" at the CMX Community Industry Awards 2024.

Caroline Frasca leads developer relations and partnerships for Streamlit's open-source Python library. Previously, she led customer success for Streamlit pre-acquisition and worked as a Solution Architect at Klaviyo. Caroline is a UNC Chapel Hill Tar Heel, has two rambunctious cats, and loves to crochet.

Andy Piper is the Developer Relations Lead at Mastodon. With a background at Twitter, Cloud Foundry, and IBM, Andy is renowned for his advocacy for the MQTT protocol and has contributed to the Developer Relations profession for 15 years and open source for over 20 years. Named among the top influencers in open technology in the OpenUK New Year honours list in 2023, Andy also co-hosts a weekly tech podcast (Games at Work dot biz) and enjoys creating art using robots.

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Jon Gottfried, Co-Founder at MLH! Jon was an early Developer Evangelist at Echo Nest and Twilio, and has been working on building developer communities and platform partnerships at Major League Hacking for the last 10 years.Major League Hacking is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

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Tune in to our Developer Docs and Content panel with experts from Twilio, Redocly, and Fern. We'll be talking about how these teams consistently create excellent developer-focused content, how you can measure the effectiveness of your content strategy, and the modern tooling required to level up your developer experience through content and docs.

This panel is perfect for content strategists, documentation specialists, and Developer Relations professionals looking to elevate their craft and make a tangible impact in their organizations. Join us to gain practical tips, hear success stories, and leave with actionable insights that you can apply to your developer documentation and content strategy.

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Jenn Leaver leads the Developer Education team at Twilio and is responsible for the developer docs platform, site, and content. She previously led the documentation team at GitHub and wrote technical documentation for software companies across tech. She believes strongly in the power of democratizing tech through documentation. She lives in Michigan with her family.

Andrew Jiang: Prior to joining Fern to build out Fern Docs, I was a Forward Deployed Engineer at Palantir. Before Palantir, I frequented MLH hackathons as a student at USC (class of 19). I've worked across frontend and backend stacks and on infrastructure teams, on problems ranging from aircraft maintenance, clinical trials, and supply chain optimization, to generative AI for the US government. I joined Fern to solve the problem that has plagued my entire work experience as an engineer: writing and maintaining beautiful documentation.

Lorna Mitchell leads Developer Experience including documentation at Redocly, the home of OpenAPI and developer portal tools. After a career as a software developer, with an active blog and a few books on the side, she's spent the last few years leading DevRel teams and doc projects at technical companies, and sharing her knowledge with the world. Outside her day job, she's an open source maintainer and is on the Technical Steering Committee for OpenAPI. Lorna is based in Yorkshire, UK. Meet Your Host
Jon Gottfried, Co-Founder at MLH! Jon was an early Developer Evangelist at Echo Nest and Twilio, and has been working on building developer communities and platform partnerships at Major League Hacking for the last 10 years.Major League Hacking is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

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In this insightful podcast titled "How to Utilize AI in DevRel," Greg Baugues, Raymond Camden, and Ash Arnwine, seasoned professionals in Developer Relations (DevRel), share their expertise on integrating artificial intelligence (AI) into DevRel practices.

Hosted by Jon Gottfried, Co-Founder at MLH, the discussion navigates through various aspects of AI's role in DevRel, from high-level approaches to practical applications and future prospects.

Greg Baugues, a developer and storyteller, offers his insights gleaned from his exploration of AI and its applications, particularly in the context of developer communities. Raymond Camden, a Senior Developer Evangelist for Adobe, brings his extensive experience in web development and AI projects to the table, shedding light on the use of AI as a content assistant. Meanwhile, Ash Arnwine, Director of Developer Relations at Nylas, shares his team's experiments with AI and their impact on developer experiences.

The conversation touches on a spectrum of topics, including the suitability of AI-driven approaches for different DevRel projects, the potential pitfalls of using AI tools, and the integration of "fun hacks" into DevRel strategies. The speakers also explore promising applications of AI in improving developer experiences, the optimal balance between AI and traditional DevRel practices, and the role of AI in fostering community interactions.

Listeners are treated to a comprehensive discussion that evaluates the hype versus reality of AI in DevRel, offering valuable insights for those embarking on their journey into the intersection of AI and developer relations. Whether you're a seasoned DevRel professional or a newcomer intrigued by the possibilities of AI, this podcast provides a roadmap for leveraging AI to enhance developer communities and drive innovation in software development.Major League Hacking is handcrafted by our friends over at: fame.so

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Are you ready to take your Developer Relations efforts to new heights with Campus Ambassador Programs? These initiatives are not just about spreading brand awareness; they're about tapping into the pulse of academic institutions, nurturing relationships with budding developers, and fostering a community brimming with innovation and enthusiasm. Our upcoming webinar is tailored to guide you through the intricacies of leveraging these programs to significantly amplify your DevRel reach.

Dive into the world of Campus Ambassador Programs with our panel of DevRel experts who have been at the forefront of this dynamic field. They will share their firsthand experiences and proven strategies for effectively establishing and nurturing these programs. From identifying and engaging with potential ambassadors to creating impactful activities that resonate with the academic community, this session is an essential guide for anyone looking to expand their Developer Relations footprint across campuses. Whether you are initiating a new program or aiming to enhance an existing one, this webinar is packed with insights to help you make your mark in the academic arena.

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Claire Froelich can speak on how ambassador programs can be mutually beneficial for both companies and students and common challenges to be aware of. Over the past 3 years, Postman has partnered with over 200 Postman Student Leaders to promote API literacy worldwide.

Ryan Swift is the Director of Community Operations for Major League Hacking, where he oversees the innovative and high-impact MLH Coaches program which supports hundreds of thousands of students via hundreds of campus events each year.

Christine Fan leads the education marketing program at MSI and handles K-12 and collegiate partnerships, MSI Student community management, and event sponsorships, and directs the student ambassador program. Before MSI, they were a part of the NVIDIA GeForce Student Ambassador program as a brand ambassador and took that experience to build the MSI Student program. In their free time, they enjoy reading books, playing with their cats, and playing games like Guild Wars 2 and Counter-Strike 2.

Other Resources:* Postman

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Oh, the Humanity (of DevRel Marketing) with Reena Leone from ImplyIn this week’s episode Jon is joined by Reena Leone, the Senior Developer Evangelist at Imply. They discuss the confluence of developers and marketing: the importance of collaboration and organization of your content, and how to appeal to the human inside every Developer.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/reena-l-5566b910/
Website: https://imply.io/

Episode resources* Imply’s Podcasts * Dr Joy Buolamwini’s organization The Algorithmic Justice League

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Balancing Big Initiatives and Personal Connections: Insights into Developer Advocacy with Nicolas Grenié of Typeform

In this episode of The State of Developer Education, Jon is joined by Nicolas Grenié, a Developer Advocate for Typeform. Join them as they discuss Nicolas' coding origin story, the evolution of developer advocacy over the past decade, and the impact of low-code/no-code tools. Nicolas shares valuable insights into the value of content creation and partnerships, as well as the role of AI in the developer ecosystem. Episode Resources* Nicolas’ LinkedIn * Nicolas’ Website * Typeform

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DevRel RoI: How Teams Measure Impact and SuccessIn this week’s episode, Jon is joined by Jacklyn Biggin, SJ Morris, and John Vajda. Jacklyn Biggin is a Developer Advocate at Automattic, SJ Morris is the Senior Manager of Developer Community at HubSpot, and John Vajda is DX and Growth Team Manager at Deepgram.In this episode, Jon and his guests discuss the evolving landscape of developer relations and how teams measure impact and success. They also delve into topics such as the shift towards virtual events and online communities, the importance of facilitating connections between developers, the role of content in developer relations, and how developer input influences product direction. Connect with the Panelists on LinkedIn:* https://www.linkedin.com/in/sjmorris * https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnpvajda * https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacklynbiggin

Episode resources* HubSpot * Deepgram * Automattic

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The Importance of Storytelling in Developer Relations with Liz Moy of IntercomIn this week’s episode, Jon is joined by Liz Moy, Senior Developer Relations Engineer at Intercom. Intercom seeks to build a future where most customer conversations are successfully resolved without needing human support, freeing up the team to work on higher-value customer conversations. Liz is a podcaster, teacher, speaker, and writer who empowers people to build things with code and creates environments where creativity can flourish. In this episode, we hear Liz’s journey from journalism to software engineering to developer relations. Liz also explores the importance of providing engaging content to capture listeners' attention, the challenges of promoting less mainstream platforms and products, and the role of developer relations in engaging existing customers and collaborating with sales teams.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lizmoyEpisode resources: * https://www.intercom.com

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Bridging the Developer Education Gap with Tim Castillo of Dagster Labs
In this week’s episode, Jon is joined by Tim Castillo, Data Engineer and Developer Advocate for Dagster Labs. Tim is a technology enthusiast and expert with a strong foundation in computer science and data engineering. Carving out his career trajectory in the bustling tech community of the 2010s, he comes with an arsenal of experience shaped by early massive open online courses.In this episode, Jon and Tim discuss Tim’s journey from college undergraduate to tech advocate, sharing insightful strategies for upskilling technologists and building adaptable, robust tech communities.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/tacastillo

Episode resources* Dagster Labs

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In this week’s episode, Jon is joined by Pranav Shikarpur, a Developer Advocate at Pangea. As a young entrepreneur and civic problem solver, Pranav is a true innovator who has already won the MIT Minor Planet Honor and Grand Award at the Intel ISEF 2018.

In this episode, John and Pranav discuss how to simplify security for developers, unpack his passion for civic problem solving, and explore the business benefits of adopting a hacker mentality as a developer advocate.

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/snpranav

Episode resources* Pangea

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Open Source Realities: Balancing Risks and Rewards in Development with John Richards
In this week’s episode, Jon is joined by John Richards; The Head of Developer Relations at Paladin Cloud, a rapidly growing, open-source, cloud security company with a Security-as-Code platform, helping to reduce risks in cloud environments. In this episode, John is discussing the intersection between security and development, highlighting the importance of open-source communities in fostering collaboration between different teams. Join them as they explore how to manage risks associated with open source and leverage its collaborative power to resolve issues quickly.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnrichardsii/
Website: https://paladincloud.io/author/johnpaladincloud-io/

Episode resources* Paladin Cloud

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Bot Games: Gamifying the Learning Experience with Micah Smith from Automation Anywhere
In this week’s episode, Jon is joined by an influential thought leader with over 15 years of experience in the automation space, Micah Smith, the current Vice President of Community and Learning at Automation Anywhere. In this episode, Micah shares his expertise on the evolving landscape of automation, providing valuable insights into the role of an automation leader. Join them as they discuss the power of “gamifying” automation learning through the use of bot games, how to leverage generative AI to efficiently maintain educational materials, and the future of engineering as we enter the AI era.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/micahdanielsmith/
Website: https://www.automationanywhere.com/company/blog/author/micah-smith

Episode resources* Automation Anywhere * Chris MacAskill

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Merging Creativity and Code: Transforming Robotics Education with Arielle Mella from Viam
In this week’s episode, Jon sits down with Arielle Mella, Developer Advocate at Viam, whose eclectic background sits at the intersection of art, technology, design, and education. In this episode, Arielle shares how she prioritizes a creative and fun-first approach when teaching the next generation of developers and robotic whizkids. Join her and Jon as they explore the intersection of art and technology, discuss the importance of recognizing coding as an inherently creative pursuit, and delve into how Viam is revolutionizing the world of robotics.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ariellevm/

Episode resources* Viam * Zach Lieberman

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Open Source Models and Developer Education with Jacob Marks of Voxel51
In this episode, Jon talks to Jacob Marks, Machine Learning Engineer and Developer Evangelist at Voxel51, whose background is rooted in scientific research having formally been a Ph.D. resident at X the moonshot factory.

In this episode, Jacob and Jon unpack the current hype surrounding the implementation of AI in computer vision and software development, assessing its current impact on the industry. Join them as discuss the importance of practical and interactive learning resources and the benefits of contributing to open-source projects.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacob-marks

Episode resources* Voxel GPT

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Art, AI and Developer Advocacy with Kirk Kaiser In this episode, Jon talks to Kirk Kaiser, former Head of Developer Relations at Gitpod and author of Make Art with Python, a book that teaches programming fundamentals through art instead of print statements.

In this episode, Kirk and Jon explore software development through the lens of creativity to uncover the intersections of art, coding, and AI. Join them as they provide practical insights into the world of technology by highlighting its connection to art.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/k-p-kaiser-94500124
Twitter: @burningion
Website:https://www.makeartwithpython.com

Episode resources* Make Art with Python * Daito Manabe

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Creating Impactful Developer Education Content with Alex Merced from Dremio
In this week’s episode, Jon sits down with Alex Merced, Developer Advocate at Dremio and YouTuber who produces a wide range of multimedia content to help the next generation of web developers. In this episode, Alex shares his secrets on how he creates impactful developer education content. Join him and Jon as they explore the importance of building a brand as a content creator, unpack the complexities in creating layered tech tutorials, and emphasize the need to embrace constructive criticism in the developer space. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/alexmerced
YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/AlexMercedFullStackDeveloperWebsite: https://www.alexmercedcoder.dev

Episode resources* Sam Altman * Dremio

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Hedy: Simplifying Syntax with Dr. Felienne Hermans
In this week’s episode, Jon sits down with Dr. Felienne Hermans, Professor of Computer Science Education at Vrije Universiteit Amsterdam and the creator of Hedy, a new and exciting, gradual textual programming language that simplifies how people learn to code. In this episode, Dr Felienne shares how her experiences teaching young coders led to the development of Hedy. Join them as they explore how best to balance simplicity and complexity in programming education and emphasize the importance of inclusivity, diversity, and patience when teaching coding.

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/felienne/?originalSubdomain=nl
Website: https://www.felienne.com

Episode resources* Hedy * Python

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The Importance of Observability Within the Developer Role with Jemiah Sius from New Relic In this week’s episode, Jon sits down with Jemiah Sius, Senior Director of Developer Relations at New Relic. As a self-taught developer, Jemiah has a wealth of experience in a range of different areas, including full-stack development, product management, and marketing.

In this episode, Jon and Jemiah discuss all things observability, unpacking its vital importance in developer education and how to lower the barriers to entry in the software developer space.

LinkedIn:https://www.linkedin.com/in/jemiahsius/
Website: https://newrelic.com/blog/authors/jemiah-sius

Episode resources* New Relic * Kelsey Hightower * GitHub

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Optimizing Developers’ Learning Experience with Caitlin Davey, Lead of Drivers Docs at MongoDBIn this week’s episode, Jon sits down with Caitlin Davey, the Lead of Drivers Docs at MongoDB. As a documentation specialist, Caitlin is an educator who works at the intersection of technology and learning.

Jon and Caitlin discuss the enhancing effects of informal and multimodal learning, the importance of clear messaging in developers’ documentation, and how we can best optimize learning experiences through cognitive load management. Join them as they debunk misconceptions surrounding developers’ education and more!

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/caitlindavey/
Website: https://theorg.com/org/mongodb/org-chart/caitlin-davey

Episode resources* MongoDB * Adam Grant

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Understanding the Impact of AI on Developers’ Education with Logan Kilpatrick from OpenAI In today’s episode, Jon sits down with Logan Kilpatrick, a Member of the Developer Advocacy Staff at OpenAI to discuss the impact of AI on the developer community. As a leading developer, Logan’s resume is filled with large-scale organizations including NASA, Apple, and The Julia Language.

This episode unpacks the revolutionizing effects AI is having on software engineering and the future of developers' education. Together, Jon and Logan contemplate how AI could transform traditional learning experiences and offer new possibilities for developers.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/logankilpatrick/
Twitter: @OfficalLoganK
Website: https://scholar.harvard.edu/logankilpatrick/home

Episode resources* OpenAI * Sal Khan * The Julia Language

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The Importance of Security in Software Development with Randall Degges, Head of Developer Relations and Community at Snyk
In today’s episode, Jon sits down with Randall Degges, Head of Developer Relations and Community at Snyk, to unpack the niche world of security software engineering.

Starting his career as a college drop out, Randall Degges is now a self-proclaimed “happy programmer” who has been writing software for over twenty years. Together, he and Jon unpack the disconnect between general software engineering and the world of security, demystifying security programming and exploring how we can make security tools and developer education more accessible for everyone.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rdegges/
Website: https://snyk.io/

Episode resources* Snyk * John Carmack * Rob Pike

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Building Successful Hackathons with Brandon Kessler, CEO and Founder of Devpost
In today’s episode, Jon sits down with Brandon Kessler, CEO and Founder of Devpost, to unpack what it takes to create a successful hackathon that has longevity.

Brandon is a record label founder turned tech entrepreneur, who is passionate about creating spaces that facilitate a community. Join him and Jon as they discuss the importance of fostering competition, collaboration, and community to create a space where learning through building can thrive. LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kesslerbrandon/
Twitter: @Bkessler
Website: https://devpost.com/

Episode resources* Devpost * Steve Jobs * Discord * Copilot

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This week on The State of Developer Education, Jon is joined by Mike Zamansky, an influential voice in computer science education in New York City. Recently retired, Mike has held a range of roles in the education sector, previously having been the Coordinator of Computer Science Education and Director of Undergraduate Honors at Hunters College. This episode is about unpacking the state of computer science education in the United States. Mike and Jon discuss the disconnect between classroom teaching and industry requirements and explore how educators can better collaborate with industry professionals to close the skills gap in developer education.
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/zamansky/
Website: https://education.hunter.cuny.edu/about/faculty-staff/mike-zamansky/

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Join Jon as he interviews Katie Hoesley, Senior Developer Advocate at BigCommerce. In this episode, they delve into the challenges that beginner developers face and explore how to creatively bridge the gap between technical leaders and the next generation of technologists. Drawing from her liberal arts background, Katie emphasizes the importance of creativity, communication, and community in developer advocacy. Don’t miss out on their insightful discussion where they unpack the complexities of measuring the ROI of developer marketing the importance of relationships in DevRel, and much more!
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/katiehoesley
Website: https://www.bigcommerce.co.uk/

Episode resources* Hack Reactor * Lee Rob

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In this week's episode, Jon interviews Adam Reynolds, Lead Product Evangelist at Coherent. Join them as they discuss Adam’s journey from full-stack development into the world of low-code development. Analyzing the pros and cons, their conversation centers around exploring the potential of low-code development in simplifying and speeding up application development while making it more accessible to a range of different audiences. Join them as they ponder the potential power of low-code platforms to bridge the developer education gap and empower a wider range of individuals to build applications.LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/hellolowcode/
Twitter: https://twitter.com/HelloLowCode
Website: https://coherent.zngly.com/view-all/

Episode resources:* Coherent * Nikola Tesla

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On this week’s episode, Jon talks to Jacob Herrington about his unconventional journey from a self-taught developer and college drop-out to a Product Manager at Walmart. Their discussion touches upon the advantages and disadvantages of pursuing a non-linear path into the world of software engineering, the impact open-source had on Jacob’s developer journey, and how the rise of tech communities is dismantling the systemic privileges that previously churned out “white-tech dudes”.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jacobherrington/
Website: https://careers.walmart.com/

Episode resources EAST at Arkansas High School* * Walmart Careers

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In this episode of The State of Developer Education, Jon is joined by Jordan Violet, Head of Developer Relations at SailPoint, and Colin McKibben, Developer Advocate for Workflows and Event Triggers at SailPoint.

Jordan and Colin share the pivotal moments on their journeys into DevRel that shaped their passions for programming and developer relations. Throughout the conversation, they highlight the unequivocal need for frictionless onboarding experiences coupled with uninhibited, open access to resources in developer education. They further introduce their conceptual framework, the Developer’s Hierarchy of Needs, demonstrating its utility as a tool for fostering a positive, enriching developer experience.
Episode resources* Jordan’s LinkedIn * Colin’s LinkedIn * SailPoint

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In this episode of The State of Developer Education, Jon is joined by Nick Singh, Founder and CEO of DataLemur and bestselling author of "Ace the Data Science Interview". They delve into Nick’s journey in teaching developers and data scientists, his coding background, transition into data science, and experience as a growth engineer. Nick highlights the evolving nature of the traditional path to becoming a data scientist and emphasizes the importance of practical learning in data science education and the need for a balance between theory and application. As an added bonus, Nick shares insights on how to win hackathons!Episode resources* Nick's LinkedIn * DataLemur * Ace the Data Science Interview

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In this episode of The State of Developer Education, Jon is joined by Scott Spence, Developer Advocate Consultant at OES Technology.
They discuss Scott's journey into web development and his experience with the Svelte framework. Scott shares valuable insights on working with other developers, his involvement in the Svelte community, and the benefits of using Storyblok. 

Episode resources* Scott’s LinkedIn * OES Technology * Storyblok * Svelte * freeCodeCamp

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In this episode of The State of Developer Education, Jon is joined by Denis Magda, the Director of Developer Relations at Yugabyte, the company behind the open source YugabyteDB, a high-performance distributed SQL database for cloud native applications.They delve into the importance of understanding databases in application development, the value of comprehending the internals of programming languages, and the benefits of being involved in open source communities. Denis also emphasizes the significance of practical education and hands-on labs for developers.
Episode resources* Denis’s LinkedIn * Yugabyte * The Apache Software Foundation

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In this episode, Jon is joined by Michael Stowe, Senior Director of Developer Marketing at RingCentral, a leading provider of business cloud communications and contact center solutions based on its powerful Message Video Phone™  (MVP®) global platform. With over ten years of experience in engineering, he is focused on community development, software architecture, API design, security, and usability.

They explore the misconception of developer evangelists, their strategies for justifying the existence of developer marketing, and how Michael approaches building a successful developer program. They also talk about the three pillars of developer evangelism and the importance of balancing supporting developers and achieving business goals in developer marketing and relations. They further delve into the role of documentation and how it can be used effectively to provide information and support to developers.

Episode resources* Michael Stowe on LinkedIn * RingCentral Website

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In this episode of The State of Developer Education, Jon is joined by Margo McCabe, the Head of Developer Relations and Customer Success at HarperDB. They delve into the importance of how DevRels interact – both online and in person – with the rest of the community and how developer influencers play a role in that very interaction. 
Are you making sure you’re not constantly upselling to them? Have you built trust among the community? How do you tow the line between selling and simply being present? These are all things you need to consider when being a DevRel.
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* Margo’s LinkedIn * HarperDB * OnlySky * Yoga Pod

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In this episode of The State of Developer Education, Jon is joined by Michael Robinson, the Community Manager at Astronomer. They delve into Michael’s educational background in English Literature and how it’s helped him join the tech community. What transferable skills was he able to utilize? How unique is his perspective on the world of tech? At first glance, English and tech can seem like two completely different areas, but if we look deeper into them and be open to new ideas, we can begin to make connections that make them almost inseparable.
Episode resources* Michael’s LinkedIn * Astronomer * Queer Bookishness in British Romanticism: Ornamental Community (scholarly monograph, 2021) * An "Ungentle" Punk: Revisiting Charles Lamb's Bookishness * Great Plagues Always Hit Workers the Hardest

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In this episode, Jon is joined by Byron Ruth, Director of Developer Relations at Synadia, a software company focused on cloud-native messaging and data streaming platforms to enable the next generation of connected digital experiences. With over ten years of experience in engineering, he is focused on building systems and tools to facilitate developer interaction.

They explore the challenges and innovations in developer education, the definition of Informatics, and the challenge of teaching researchers who may need to gain expertise in informatics. They also discuss the shifts to the role of AI and machine learning in healthcare, the development of Nats, and the potential of using Nats by example as a tool for generating documentation and developer education resources.

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In this episode of The State of Developer Education, Jon speaks with Drew Gorton, Head of Developer Relations at Pagoda, a blockchain platform that enables developers to build decentralized applications. He has a background in web development and has been involved in the Drupal community for many years. Drew is passionate about mentoring and helping developers succeed in their careers.

Together, they delve into Drew’s journey into tech and the importance of mentoring and empathy in the DevRel field. He shares his experience in the Drupal ecosystem and the transition from running an agency to building a product. Drew also explores the challenges and opportunities in the Web3 space, emphasizing the need for education and adoption by developers. He further highlights the importance of diversity in the tech industry and the impact it can have on building better software.

Episode resources* Drew’s LinkedIn * Pagoda LinkedIn * Pagoda Website

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In this episode of The State of Developer Education, Jon speaks with Jamie Barton, Senior Developer Relations at Grafbase, an organization that accelerates backend development with next-generation tooling. He is also a Full-Stack Developer at Launchmade Web Services and an Educator at The Guild Software. Previously, he was the Senior Developer Relations at GraphCMS and Organizer at GraphQL Conf.

Their conversation delves into Jamie's personal journey into tech, his experience working at the Apple Genius Bar, and the importance of developer success and authentic marketing. They also delve into the impact of GraphQL in the tech ecosystem.Episode resourcesJamie’s LinkedInGrafbase The Guild SoftwareLaunchMade Web ServicesIf you enjoyed this episode, then please either:* Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts * Follow on Spotify

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In this episode of the State of Developer Education podcast, Jon speaks with Josh Crites, Developer Relations Engineer at Aztec, a company bringing programmable privacy to Web3! Having had such roles as a Partner at Celo and an Ethereum Educator at ConsenSys, he has more than a proven track record. In fact, Josh started his working career in the skiing world and, after traveling and going on a personal journey, he’s now a prominent figure in the world of Web3!

Together, they get right into why Web3 can facilitate a new way of transferring and storing data; why Hackathons are absolutely crucial for the development of not just programmers, but for Web3 developers too; and why Hackathons are such unique environments!

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In this episode of the State of Developer Education podcast, Jon speaks with Julie Hubschman, Senior Product Manager of Developer Experience at DriveWealth, the pioneer of fractional equities and embedded investing, a visionary technology company empowering more than 100 partners around the world to engage their customers. Prior to this, she was the Developer Relations Lead at Gusto, Partnerships Engineer at Pinterest, and a Software Engineer at Microsoft!

Join them as they discuss the potential ramifications and risks of building certain code; why developing skills in other areas of education can help you as a developer; and how hackathons can a useful way to build relationships with companies and other developers. They also discuss some of the issues with spamming and how to best overcome them.

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In this episode of the State of Developer Education podcast, Jon speaks with Tim Berglund, Vice President of Developer Relations at StarTree, a cloud-based software company enabling business customers to derive advanced insights from real-time and historical data. Previously, he was the Senior Director of Developer Advocacy at Confluent, and was also the Vice President of Developer Education at DataStax.

Together, they discuss what has and hasn’t changed in the world of developer education, why hardware feels so magical when compared to software, and why being a teacher and an outstanding developer are two completely different skills. They also get into how our lives can sometimes feel directionless, especially in the world of coding.

Episode resourcesTim’s LinkedInStarTreeConfluent DataStaxBuilding and Testing With Gradle: Understanding Next-Generation BuildsGradle Beyond the Basics: Customizing Next-Generation Builds
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In this episode of the State of Developer Education podcast, Jon speaks with Lauren Schaefer, Developer Advocate at Grammarly, the company delivering AI communication assistance to over 50,000 teams and 30 million people daily. Lauren is a software engineer, developer advocate, keynote speaker, and inventor who is at her best when she’s creating engaging and easy to understand content in a variety of mediums.

Together they discuss whether or not a degree in tech is really all that vital; how to let your skills guide your career; the importance of learning to work with all sorts of different people; and just how diverse a career in DevRel really is! They also delve into whether there is any tension between the marketing and engineering side of a DevRel team?Episode resourcesLauren’s LinkedInGrammarly MongoDBIBMIf you enjoyed this episode, then please either:* Subscribe, rate, and review on Apple Podcasts * Follow on Spotify

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In this episode of the State of Developer Education podcast, Jon speaks with Marcus Hellberg, VP of Developer Relations at Vaadin, a provider of modern web frameworks for Java that empowers developers around the globe to create intuitive web applications that their users love! Previously, he worked as a Researcher for Abo Akademi University and was a Lead Developer at Collaboratum Oy.

They discuss Marcus’ beginnings in coding for fun; why he still works with Java; some of the difficulties and easiness of selling such a technical product; and why there is such value in getting feedback from your users. Not only that, but he also outlines the relationship between customers and those in the tech community - is there much of a difference between them, or are they one in the same?

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In this episode we’re joined by Sid Maestre, VP of Developer Relations at APIMatic, a platform that simplifies API consumption by automatically generating high-quality SDKs, code samples, dynamic docs, and test cases for your API. Prior to his current role, he was the Director of Developer Relations at Karbon; the Director of Developer Experience & Advocacy at Lob; and is also an experienced public speaker within the industry!
They discuss what it’s like collaborating with marketing in the DevRel world; Sid’s unconventional origins in social sciences; as well as some of the core principles that he’s learned whilst being in DevRel. They also delve into whether it’s your personality or ability that drives your success - which do you think it is?

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In this episode of the State of Developer Education podcast, Jon speaks with Titus Winters, Principal Software Engineer at Google (a company that needs no introduction), and the Founder and TLM for Abseil. Titus is also the Author of Software Engineering at Google: Lessons Learned from Programming Over Time.

When he was asked for whom the book was intended, Titus said: “We were aiming for this to provide the “Why”, and our understanding of best practices at Google scale. I think it’s probably most useful for people involved in policy and decision making for a software organization - whether that is the people making the decisions or the people proposing changes and improvements”.This conversation gets right into why computing education should really focus on the craft of programming rather than the mathematical side, especially in an increasingly automated world, whether or not the increase in automation will pose a threat to programming education, and just how much the programming industry has evolved and grown in such a scarily short time!

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In this episode of the State of Developer Education podcast, Jon speaks with Sean Falconer, Head of Marketing and Developer Relations at Skyflow, a data privacy vault delivered as a simple and elegant API, transforming the way businesses handle their users’ financial, healthcare and other personal data. He is also the host of the Software Daily Podcast, and previously worked at Google as the Business Communications Developer Relations Lead.

They dive headfirst into the trials and tribulations of beginning a startup company; the transferable skills a developer acquires from their job; the importance of basic theoretical knowledge in coding; the difference between the various educational bodies in coding; and why you should always learn from your mistakes

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In this episode of the State of Developer Education podcast, Jon speaks with Trey Botard, Developer Advocate at Atomic, the trusted way for people to connect their payroll accounts to an app. Before his role at Atomic, Trey was a Full-Stack Developer and Developer Advocate at Fluree. He was an Application Architect at Signature Consultants, was also an Application Developer at Volvo Group.

Together, they discuss how tech can solve people’s problems (especially in the workplace), why you should always optimize and see the value in your work, the importance of cleaning up your documentation so users aren’t put off by your product, and which department a DevRel belongs to.

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In this episode of the State of Developer Education podcast, Jon speaks with PJ Hagerty, Senior Developer Advocate at Spotify. PJ is also the Founder and Chief Community Officer at DevRelate.io, a service giving smaller organizations the opportunity to be members of the tech communities they want to be part of at an affordable cost. Not only that, but he is the Co-Host of the Community Pulse Podcast, and is a Board Member for Open Sourcing Mental Illness (OSMI).

They delve into why Spotify is such an interesting place to work and its developer origins, unpack the parallels between music and math which unpin programming, identify some of the annoying habits of modern day developers, and why the way the education system teaches math and coding needs to be altered. They also outline the importance of coding theory and that, even though not everyone enjoys it, there are also those who do.

LinkedIn: https://linkedin.com/in/pjhagerty

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In this episode, Jon speaks with Michael Heap, Director of Developer Experience at Kong, a cloud connectivity company backed by the likes of Jeff Bezos (Amazon) and Eric Schmidt (Google). Michael is also the author of ‘Ansible: From Beginner to Pro’, a clear and concise guide on how to use Ansible, a simple way to automate apps and IT infrastructure.

They discuss how your own failure can actually benefit you in the long run, how to align your work to the needs and wants of others, the misconceptions of DevRel Strategies, and how personability for a manager is absolutely key. They also delve into why a manager should always be introspective and the difference it can make for the team.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/mheapTwitter: https://twitter.com/mheap?lang=en Episode resources* Kong Inc. * Ansible: From Beginner to Pro * Nexmo (now Vonage) * The Manager’s Path * Leadership and Self Deception

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In this episode, Jon speaks with Lorna Mitchell, VP of Developer Experience at Redocly. She has created award-winning documentation, is an expert in her field, and writes a blog in which she shares articles, videos, and podcasts.

In this episode, they discuss why writing your own tutorials can be such a powerful tool for learning, how PHP has grown and evolved over time, how engineering is mainly problem-solving, and the many ways it’s helped her learn about external topics and her award-winning documentation with her previous company Redocly. They also discuss how they deal with their complex workload and the ease of Sphinx.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lornajane
Twitter: https://twitter.com/lornajane
Website: https://lornajane.net

Episode resources* Redocly * Sphinx Documentation * Kathy Sierra

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In this episode, Jon speaks with Marcos Placona, Director of Developer Relations, EMEA at Circle, a global financial technology firm that enables businesses to harness the power of digital currencies and public blockchains for payments, commerce, and financial applications across the globe.

They discuss what drew Marcos into Developer Evangelism, how the job has changed over the years, the importance of coping and managing burnout, the parallels between Web2 and Web3 when they both first started, and why it’s important to explore all avenues in the tech world before settling on one.

Episode resources* Circle * Twilio * Krunch

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In this episode of the State of Developer Education podcast, Jon speaks with Jennifer Petoff, Director of Program Management of the Google Cloud Platform and Technical Infrastructure Education. She is also an avid blogger of both tech and travel and was previously a volunteer career consultant at the American Chemical society.

They explore Jennifer’s unexpected journey from chemistry into tech and the culture shock that came with it; what it’s like mapping out new programs and joining new teams in a place like Google; some of the key guiding principles in teaching new subjects; and what some colleges and universities could learn from her method of building new curriculums.

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In this episode, Jon speaks with Emily Lin, Developer Evangelist at ConsenSys, the leading Ethereum software company which allows people from across the globe to build next-generation applications.

They discuss how she made the shift in her career from marketing at HackDartmouth to Software Engineering, what it’s like learning all the different factors that come with working in Web3, the amount of travel involved in conferences and hackathons, and why zero-to-hero courses don’t particularly work for her.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilyjlinTwitter: https://www.twitter.com/_emjlin Episode resources* ConsenSys * Appian Corporation * HackDartmouth * Truffle Suite

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In this episode, Jon speaks with Nikita Koselev, the Lead Software Development Engineer at Mastercard, who believes companies need to better understand a community's needs. He is also the Open Source Developer Relations and founder of Together, We Open Source.

They talk about how he has helped people learn the skills they need to develop software and the pros and cons of learning open source coding and technical skills. He also speaks about his passion for computers, people, and nature, his struggles with depression, and his openness regarding autism.

Episode resources* Nikita Koselev on LinkedIn * Jonathan Gottfried on LinkedIn * Major League Hacking Website

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In this episode, Jon speaks with Viktor Gamov, Principal Developer Advocate at Kong, a cloud connectivity company backed by the likes of Jeff Bezos (Amazon) and Eric Schmidt (Google). He is the co-author of books Kafka in Action and Enterprise Web Development. Prior to this, he worked for Confluent as a Developer Advocate. With years of experience under his belt, he is doing his utmost to help others learn software development.

They discuss how information is far more easily accessible in the 21st century, how much time and research it took to write his books, whether or not technology is indistinguishable from magic, and what the process of working for Kong is like. They also dive into building software for customers who could potentially know more than you.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vikgamov GitHub: https://github.com/gAmUssAYouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/ViktorGamov Twitter: https://twitter.com/gamussaInstagram: https://www.instagram.com/gamussaEpisode resources* Kong Inc. (LinkedIn) * Confluent (LinkedIn) * Kafka in Action (Book) * Enterprise Web Development (Book)

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When Olivier Poupeney started his career in software development in the early 1990s, DevOps did not exist, Ethernet was not invented yet, and it took twenty minutes to compile a simple program! Today, we are living in a utopia of connectivity.

In this episode, Jon Gottfried and Olivier Poupeny, Director of Developer Relations at Symphony, discuss the evolution of software development from "sneakernet" to 5G. Jon and Olivier take an in-depth look at developer relations—from Symphony's Developer Ecosystem and essential job skills to developer education and career development.

Olivier Poupeney is the Director of Developer Relations at Symphony, a community-driven software platform for fintech developers. Olivier co-founded and was the VP of Research and Development at Ecensity. He also co-founded and was a Chief Technology Officer (CTO) at DreamFace Interactive, and worked as CTO for Interactive Clouds. He has made significant contributions to numerous enterprise-level development projects in various industries. He holds an Associate's degree in Science Computing from Vilgénis (Massy).

Episode resources* Jonathan Gottfried on LinkedIn * Major League Hacking Website

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Investing in open-source education is one of the best ways to embed yourself in the community. But how do you incorporate open source into your business? Joshua Poddoku is an open-source leader, adviser, and public speaker passionate about building vibrant communities. In this episode of The State of Developer Education, he describes his role as Lead Developer Evangelist at Apache, DevLake, & Merico. Listen to learn why investing in open-source education works, how to get involved, and the benefits of contributing to the open-source community.
Episode resources* Jonathan Gottfried on LinkedIn * Major League Hacking Website

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In this episode, Jonathan speaks with Vyshakh Babji, Global Lead of DevRel at Shippo, a multi-carrier shipping software for e-commerce businesses. He is vastly experienced in Android software development and educating the public on his company's products. He is improving ways to educate developers in the community.

They discuss developer relations and the role they have been playing in educating and mentoring developers in the tech space, ways a developer can improve their knowledge, and why a developer needs to have a technical mentor in the community. They also advise SaaS companies that develop platforms that developers work on.

Episode resources* Jonathan Gottfried on LinkedIn * Major League Hacking Website

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What is the best career path for a new developer? Should you go to college? What about grad school? Regardless of your path, getting involved in the open-source community is a smart way to learn, collaborate, and build a strong portfolio. In this interview, Jeff chats with the Senior Software Engineer at Google Research, Sandile Keswa. He shares insight about projects he's worked on, hybrid learning models in education, building apps vs. building infrastructure, how to get involved in open source, top secret projects he can't talk about, advice for up-and-coming developers on where to start, and more!
Episode resources* Sandile Keswa * Google Research * GitHub

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In this episode, Tech Evangelist at Autodesk Aliza Carpio discusses her incredible career, pivoting from engineer to marketer to product specialist, why communication is one of the most underrated skills, mentors who have influenced her, and what she loves about hackathons. This interview is full of practical career advice for up-and-coming developers, and she outlines simple hacks to speed up your career development and upgrade your skill set.

Aliza Carpio is a technologist, open-source leader, inventor, and blogger. Aliza has a unique skill set in various disciplines, including backend development, marketing, product management, and evangelism. She is a sought-after guest speaker featured in publications like CNN and San Diego Magazine.Episode resources* Aliza Carpio on LinkedIn * Autodesk * Wisdom From My Elders YouTube * Intuit Blog

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Thao Bach is a Senior Software Engineer at LinkedIn Mountain View and Co-President of Mount Holyoke's Computer Science Society. Her experience spans the development of open-source, closed-source, and consumer-facing software. She is a strong advocate of diversity—her work at LinkedIn is focused on cultivating a more inclusive community by building inclusive products.

In this episode, Thao illuminates the differences between LinkedIn from region to region and describes the behavior that drives development. She also discusses what college did not prepare her for, the exciting world of open source, and the pros/cons of obtaining a degree vs. a nontraditional route.

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