Principle of Charity: Recent Episodes
Emile Sherman, Lloyd Vogelman
Are you ready to burst your filter bubble? To hit pause on righteous anger? Principle of Charity injects curiosity and generosity back into difficult conversations, bringing together two expert guests with opposing views on big social issues.
But here’s the twist: as well as passionately advocating their own views, each guest is challenged to present the best, most generous version of the other’s argument.
This unique format comes from an ancient idea - the principle of charity - which tells us to seek the truth, not to win the fight; to truly understand the other before we instinctively reject them.
The podcast is hosted by Emile Sherman and Lloyd Vogelman. Emile is an Academy and Emmy Award-winning film & TV producer who’s obsessively curious about ideas and holds onto the naïve belief that a generous conversion is still the best way to get to the truth. Lloyd has a doctorate in psychology, spent years as a leader in the fight against apartheid before building reconciliation in South Africa, and describes himself as a recovering extremist who’s passionate about the potential to change our minds.
@PofCharity on Twitter, @PrincipleofCharity on Facebook and @PrincipleofCharityPodcast on Instagram.
You can find Emile at:@EmileSherman on Twitter, @EmileSherman on Linkedin,
You can find Lloyd at: @Lloydvogelman on Linkedin
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Producers:
Jonah Primo - Find at Jonahprimo.com or @Jonahprimo on Instagram
Bronwen Reid
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With David Baddiel and Simon Sebag Montefiore.
In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guests, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.
David Baddiel is a comedian, author, screenwriter and television presenter.
In 1992, he performed to 12,500 people with Rob Newman at the Wembley arena in the UK’s first ever arena comedy show and was credited as turning comedy into “The New Rock’n’Roll”. Alongside The Lightning Seeds, the pair also wrote the seminal football anthem Three Lions. David has made several acclaimed documentaries, including the 2016 travel documentary David Baddiel On The Silk Road (Discovery) and in 2017, The Trouble with Dad (Channel4). More recently he created and presented Confronting Holocaust Denial and Social Media, Anger and Us on BBC Two.
Recently he published the Sunday Times bestselling non-fiction polemic Jews Don’t Count, and due to the success of this book, David has also written and presented a documentary under the same title for Channel 4, which was released in late 2022. David’s most recent non-fiction book, The God Desire, was published earlier this year.
Simon Sebag Montefiore is the internationally bestselling author of prize-winning books that have been published in forty-eight languages. CATHERINE THE GREAT & POTEMKIN was shortlisted for the Samuel Johnson Prize; STALIN: THE COURT OF THE RED TSAR won History Book of the Year Prize at the British Book Awards; YOUNG STALIN won the Costa Biography Award, the LA Times Book Prize for Biography, the Kreisky Prize and the Grand Prix de la Biographie Politique; JERUSALEM: THE BIOGRAPHY - A HISTORY OF THE MIDDLE EAST won the Jewish Book Council Book of the Year Prize and the Wenjin Book Prize in China; THE ROMANOVS: 1613-1918 won the Lupicaia del Terriccio Book Prize. He is the author of the Moscow Trilogy of novels: SASHENKA, RED SKY AT NOON and ONE NIGHT IN WINTER, which won the Political Fiction Book of the Year Award. His latest book is THE WORLD: A FAMILY HISTORY OF HUMANITY which has been a NYT and Sunday Times top ten bestseller.
CREDITS
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and X
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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In this episode we spend time with David Baddiel and Simon Sebag Montefiore and ask - Where do Jews really come from? Are they white or people of colour? And how should we deal with the ethnic diversity within Jewish populations, with differences between Ashkenazi, Sephardi and Mizrachi Jews?
Questions around whether Jews are white or people of colour has become a fraught issue. In an ideal world (or the ideal for at least most of us in the multicultural liberal west,) it shouldn’t matter. However, race, ethnicity and politics have always been intertwined, and this question takes us to some surprising places in the battle of racial politics.
In particular, both the far right and now the progressive left are drawing a lot of meaning from the question ‘are Jews white or people of colour?’, with Jews seemingly on the wrong side of each of their equations. They are non-white for the far right, and quintessentially white for the progressive left.
To help answer this question and more, we have two guests with very different lenses. Our first, Simon Sebag Montefiore, is one of the world’s leading historians. He outlines the historical, archaeological and genetic consensus, and any counterviews, on where Jews come from and how Jewish populations have moved through the ages. We also have author, comedian and documentarian David Baddiel to help with the cultural and political significance of this question, and to explore whether Jews are privileged enough to be ‘deemed’ white, regardless of their Middle Eastern heritage.
BIOS
David Baddiel is a comedian, author, screenwriter and television presenter.
In 1992, he performed to 12,500 people with Rob Newman at the Wembley arena in the UK’s first ever arena comedy show and was credited as turning comedy into “The New Rock’n’Roll”. Alongside The Lightning Seeds, the pair also wrote the seminal football anthem Three Lions. David has made several acclaimed documentaries, including the 2016 travel documentary David Baddiel On The Silk Road (Discovery) and in 2017, The Trouble with Dad (Channel4). More recently he created and presented Confronting Holocaust Denial and Social Media, Anger and Us on BBC Two.
Recently he published the Sunday Times bestselling non-fiction polemic Jews Don’t Count, and due to the success of this book, David has also written and presented a documentary under the same title for Channel 4, which was released in late 2022. David’s most recent non-fiction book, The God Desire, was published earlier this year.
Simon Sebag Montefiore is the internationally bestselling author of prize-winning books that have been published in forty-eight languages. CATHERINE THE GREAT & POTEMKIN was shortlisted for the Samuel Johnson Prize; STALIN: THE COURT OF THE RED TSAR won History Book of the Year Prize at the British Book Awards; YOUNG STALIN won the Costa Biography Award, the LA Times Book Prize for Biography, the Kreisky Prize and the Grand Prix de la Biographie Politique; JERUSALEM: THE BIOGRAPHY - A HISTORY OF THE MIDDLE EAST won the Jewish Book Council Book of the Year Prize and the Wenjin Book Prize in China; THE ROMANOVS: 1613-1918 won the Lupicaia del Terriccio Book Prize. He is the author of the Moscow Trilogy of novels: SASHENKA, RED SKY AT NOON and ONE NIGHT IN WINTER, which won the Political Fiction Book of the Year Award. His latest book is THE WORLD: A FAMILY HISTORY OF HUMANITY which has been a NYT and Sunday Times top ten bestseller.
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Featuring the wonderful Benjamin Law and Professor John Rasko AO. In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guests, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.
BIOS
Benjamin Law is an Australian writer and broadcaster. He’s the author of The Family Law (2010), Gaysia (2013), the Quarterly Essay Moral Panic 101 (2017) and editor of Growing Up Queer in Australia (2019). Benjamin is also an AWGIE Award-winning screenwriter. He’s the co-executive producer, co-creator and co-writer of the Netflix comedy-drama Wellmania (2023), playwright of Melbourne Theatre Company’s sold-out play Torch the Place (2020), and creator and co-writer of three seasons of the award-winning SBS/Hulu/Comedy Central Asia TV series The Family Law (2016–2019).
Benjamin works and lives on Gadigal Country, part of the Eora Nation (Sydney). He is a board member of Story Factory, committee member of the Jesse Cox Audio Fellowship and ambassador for Plan Australia, the Australian Literacy and Numeracy Foundation, Victorian Pride Centre, Bridge for Asylum Seekers and the Pinnacle Foundation.
Professor John Rasko AO is internationally renowned as Australia’s pioneer in the clinical application of adult stem cells and gene therapies. As a clinical hematologist, pathologist and scientist with a renowned track record in gene and stem cell therapy, experimental haematology and molecular biology he has published over 220 academic papers. He is Deputy Director and leads the Program in Gene and Stem Cell Therapy Program at The Centenary Institute and is Head, Department of Cell & Molecular Therapies at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital in Sydney.
CREDITS
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and X
This podcast is produced by Jonah Primo and Danielle Harvey
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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Featuring the wonderful Benjamin Law and Professor John Rasko AO
In this episode with the help of a cultural critic and a genetic expert we consider how to best make sense of our ancestral past and the dangers of over identifying with tribes alongside the very real opportunities science is giving us to change our genetics.
While we are all unique individuals, who of course come from families and a line of ancestors, in the end we are responsible for our own lives. While we may look to our ancestry for helpful hints as to how to live well, how much, if at all, should our heritage define or constrain us?
On a genetic level we have inherited some of the traits of our forebears, and even if, for example the colour of our skin, hair or facial features does express our genetic connection to race, that necessarily ‘mean’ something to us or should it be embraced? What about inherited genetic disorders, are there responsibilities around passing these on that need to be considered?
While knowing which ‘tribe’ we come from can offer a deep sense of belonging, even pride, for some the reminder of our heritage is irrelevant or even shameful or simply unhelpful. The deep psychological pull towards identifying as part of a ‘tribe’ can be particularly true if we are discriminated against because of your heritage and background. If you’re attacked because you’re black, Islamic, Asian, Jewish, deaf etc, you quickly find that you are part of that tribe, whether it’s personally important to you or not.
There are of course many dangers of over-identifying with tribes. Tribal thinking is always fraught with danger - any look at history will tell you that. These questions about whether our heritage matters, and what it means, have also become heavily politicised.
We make sense of our lives through the stories we tell ourselves. Many of us seek out our ancestry, our tribe, as a way of knowing who we are. Yet inherited genes from past individuals, randomly shaken up in their journey across generations and finally passed from our parents to us are just that – random. So how much should our ethnic heritage matter, and is it the most important part of our individual stories?
BIOS
Benjamin Law is an Australian writer and broadcaster. He’s the author of The Family Law (2010), and editor of Growing Up Queer in Australia (2019). Benjamin is also an AWGIE Award-winning screenwriter. He’s the co-executive producer, co-creator and co-writer of the Netflix comedy-drama Wellmania (2023), playwright of Melbourne Theatre Company’s sold-out play Torch the Place (2020), and creator and co-writer of three seasons of the award-winning SBS/Hulu/Comedy Central Asia TV series The Family Law (2016–2019).
Professor John Rasko AO is internationally renowned as Australia’s pioneer in the clinical application of adult stem cells and gene therapies. As a clinical hematologist, pathologist and scientist he has published over 220 academic papers. He is Deputy Director and leads the Program in Gene and Stem Cell Therapy Program at The Centenary Institute and is Head, Department of Cell & Molecular Therapies at Royal Prince Alfred Hospital in Sydney.
CREDITS
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and X
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guests, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.
BIOS
Tyson Yunkaporta is an Aboriginal scholar, founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, and author of Sand Talk. His work focuses on applying Indigenous methods of inquiry to resolve complex issues and explore global crises.
John Humphreys is the Chief Economist at The Australian Taxpayers' Alliance. He has worked previously as a policy analyst for the Australian Treasury. John was the founder of the Australian Libertarian Society, the Liberal Democratic Party (now called "Libertarian Party"), and the Friedman Conference. He also ran a research centre and education charity in Cambodia for many years, for which he was awarded a knighthood in 2016.
CREDITS
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and X
This podcast is produced by Jonah Primo and Danielle Harvey
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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In this episode we contrast two very different ways of seeing the world — Libertarianism and Indigenous Ways, to consider which model is better for society.
Libertarianism, with a focus on the version of this political philosophy that came about in the second half of the 20th century, usually associated with the centre right, does in fact cut across traditional left /right lines. It sees our individual liberty, our freedom as the most important political value. It's a political philosophy that values civil liberties, competitive markets, private property and free speech. It sees the government as a poor substitute for voluntary community and dislikes government intervention. Not just because governments may be corrupt or inefficient, but because of the real threat of force that lies at the base of all laws to coerce us to do what we may not want to do. Libertarianism sits on the extreme, but still well within a general Western enlightenment worldview with other pillars like capitalism and free functioning markets. One could say that the purpose that sits behind this entire worldview is the flourishing of the individual.
In contrast to libertarianism we consider Indigenous Australian knowledge systems, which echo many First Nations’ ways of seeing the world. Here the individual is just one node in a hugely complex system of relationships that extend to the family, to community, to ancestors, to future generations, to animals and to the land — which is also seen to be alive and sentient — and to the creation stories themselves. While this system recognises we have individual desires and we should honour our individuality, it is driven by prioritising our relationships and obligations to all those groups mentioned above with an overarching sense of custodianship for a story that started in creation and will continue long after we are gone.
There are some interesting crossovers between the two worldviews, such as a distrust of centralised top-down systems of control and a belief in the power of emergent systems that come from the web of human interactions, however these are two very different ways of seeing the role of the individual and their relationships and responsibilities in and to society.
This episode contains some coarse language.
BIOS
Tyson Yunkaporta is an Aboriginal scholar, founder of the Indigenous Knowledge Systems Lab at Deakin University in Melbourne, and author of Sand Talk. His work focuses on applying Indigenous methods of inquiry to resolve complex issues and explore global crises.
John Humphreys is the Chief Economist at The Australian Taxpayers' Alliance. He has worked previously as a policy analyst for the Australian Treasury. John was the founder of the Australian Libertarian Society, the Liberal Democratic Party (now called "Libertarian Party"), and the Friedman Conference. He also ran a research centre and education charity in Cambodia for many years, for which he was awarded a knighthood in 2016.
CREDITS
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and X
This podcast is produced by Jonah Primo and Danielle Harvey
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guests, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.
Krista Tippett is a Peabody-award winning broadcaster, National Humanities Medalist, and New York Times bestselling author. She created and hosts On Being,which has won the highest honors in broadcast, Internet and podcasting. Her On Being Project is evolving to meet the callings of the post-2020 world — and to accompany the generative people and possibilities within this tender, tumultuous time to be alive. Krista grew up in a small town in Oklahoma, attended Brown University, worked as a young journalist and diplomat in Cold War Berlin, and later received a Master of Divinity from Yale. Her most recent book is Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living.
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre.
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and Twitter.
This Podcast is Produced by Jonah Primo, Bronwen Reid and Danielle Harvey
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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On this special Spotlight episode the US broadcaster/podcaster/writer Krista Tippett joins Emile and Lloyd to discuss wisdom and meaning.
Krista’s On Being radio show and podcast has enriched the lives of its many millions of listeners over decades as has her best-selling book Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living
As host Emile Sherman said of Krista, “Our aim on the podcast is to have true expert guests, guests who are often scholars, academics, or advocates steeped in the knowledge of a particular issue and even our discussions around the principle of charity, about how to talk with others whose views we disagree with, are often evidence based. We draw on the latest research in psychology and other disciplines to teach us how to most effectively engage with others, to seek the truth rather than win the fight.
“In the extraordinary Krista Tippett we have a guest who’s less interested in knowledge, than in mystery, less focused on truth than on meaning and less obsessed with reason than with resonance.It’s a privilege to see how her worldview can be applied to the principle of charity, to the way we approach, listen to and interact with others.”
Krista Tippett is a Peabody-award winning broadcaster, National Humanities Medalist, and New York Times bestselling author. She created and hosts On Being,which has won the highest honors in broadcast, Internet and podcasting. Her On Being Project is evolving to meet the callings of the post-2020 world — and to accompany the generative people and possibilities within this tender, tumultuous time to be alive. Krista grew up in a small town in Oklahoma, attended Brown University, worked as a young journalist and diplomat in Cold War Berlin, and later received a Master of Divinity from Yale. Her most recent book is Becoming Wise: An Inquiry into the Mystery and Art of Living.
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre.
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and Twitter.
This Podcast is Produced by Jonah Primo, Bronwen Reid and Danielle Harvey
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guests, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.
Guests
Tigress Osborn (she/her) is a fat rights advocate and Executive Director of the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance (NAAFA), the world’s oldest documented organization working towards Equality at Every Size. She is a co-founding leader of the Campaign for Size Freedom, which supports passing legislation to outlaw size discrimination. Tigress is a two-time women's college graduate with degrees in Africana Studies (Smith) and English (Mills). She is an intersectional feminist teacher and writer whose professional background as a youth empowerment leader and DEI educator has informed her fat liberation activism since 2008. She has been featured in USA Today, Newsweek, and the cover of the Smith College Alumnae Quarterly; heard on BBC AntiSocial, Burnt Toast, and NPR; and seen on ABC News, NewsNation and Free Speech TV’s Feminism Today.
Helen Pluckrose is a liberal humanist and political and cultural writer and commentator. Her writing has focused on the evolution of postmodern thought into contemporary Critical Social Justice activism which she regards as counterproductive to the goal of genuine social justice. Helen is best known for participation in the Grievance Studies Affair, co-authoring Cynical Theories and the foundation of the organisation Counterweight to support workers at risk of cancellation for not supporting Critical Social Justice theories. She mostly just wants people to value evidence-based knowledge and consistently liberal ethics.
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre.
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and Twitter.
This Podcast is Produced by Jonah Primo, Bronwen Reid and Danielle Harvey
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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We live in a culture that is obsessed by weight. About a third of adult women in the US are on a diet at any given time, and a fifth of men. Those who aren’t dieting are thinking about dieting, with well over half of all adults actively wanting to lose weight, with men only slightly trailing women.
To feed the obsession on weight, or to help people manage their weight, depending on the way one looks at things, there is a global weight loss and management industry that is expected to surpass US$405 billion by 2030.
So what is going on here? Why is there a near pervasive belief that it’s good to be thin and bad to be fat.
In this episode we explore some of the reasons why fat has come to signify so much, looking at issues like health, shame, self-discipline, beauty and more.
Guests
Tigress Osborn (she/her) is a fat rights advocate and Executive Director of the National Association to Advance Fat Acceptance (NAAFA), the world’s oldest documented organization working towards Equality at Every Size. She is a co-founding leader of the Campaign for Size Freedom, which supports passing legislation to outlaw size discrimination. Tigress is a two-time women's college graduate with degrees in Africana Studies (Smith) and English (Mills). She is an intersectional feminist teacher and writer whose professional background as a youth empowerment leader and DEI educator has informed her fat liberation activism since 2008. She has been featured in USA Today, Newsweek, and the cover of the Smith College Alumnae Quarterly; heard on BBC AntiSocial, Burnt Toast, and NPR; and seen on ABC News, NewsNation and Free Speech TV’s Feminism Today.
Helen Pluckrose is a liberal humanist and political and cultural writer and commentator. Her writing has focused on the evolution of postmodern thought into contemporary Critical Social Justice activism which she regards as counterproductive to the goal of genuine social justice. Helen is best known for participation in the Grievance Studies Affair, co-authoring Cynical Theories and the foundation of the organisation Counterweight to support workers at risk of cancellation for not supporting Critical Social Justice theories. She mostly just wants people to value evidence-based knowledge and consistently liberal ethics.
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre.
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and Twitter.
This Podcast is Produced by Jonah Primo, Bronwen Reid and Danielle Harvey
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guests, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.
Tim Dean
Tim Dean is Senior Philosopher at The Ethics Centre, where he works to promote ethics in public and professional spheres. He has a Doctorate in philosophy from the University of New South Wales on the evolution of human nature and specialises in ethics, critical thinking and public philosophy. He is an Honorary Associate at the University of Sydney and the author of How We Became Human: And Why We Need to Change published by Pan Macmillan. Tim received the Australasian Association of Philosophy Media Professionals’ Award for his work on philosophy in public. He has delivered keynotes and workshops across Australia and the Asia Pacific for the likes of TEDx, Facebook, Commonwealth Bank, Aesop, Clayton Utz, the Art Gallery of NSW, the Sydney Opera House and the University of Sydney.
Danielle Harvey
Danielle Harvey is a curator, creative producer and director. Danielle works across festivals, live performance, talks, installation and digital spaces, creating layered programs that connect deeply with audiences. She is currently Festival Director of the infamous FESTIVAL OF DANGEROUS IDEAS and Director of the line-blurring theatrical events company Dancing Giant Productions. Danielle was creator of BINGEFEST (a festival celebrating digital culture) and ANTIDOTE (a festival of ideas and action), and co-creator of ALL ABOUT WOMEN (a feminist festival). She was the co-creator and originating director of the award-winning immersive experience A MIDNIGHT VISIT. Her latest immersive work ETERNITYLAND created a theatrical ‘playground’ to rave reviews. Past roles include Head of Contemporary Performance at Sydney Opera House, the Festival Executive Producer of the Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras and the Director of Engagement for The Ethics Centre.
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre.
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and Twitter.
This Podcast is Produced by Jonah Primo and Danielle Harvey
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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In this episode we go back to basics and look at the practical ways of communicating the principle of charity and how certain behaviours over time have been developed for social cohesion, even when we don’t all agree.
With our special guests – moral philosopher Dr Tim Dean and festival director Danielle Harvey – we have a wide-ranging discussion on what communicating in good faith looks like, what bad faith is, and how to navigate tricky topics. We discuss ways to have hard conversations – be that in person, in events, in podcasts or even in lecture theatres. This takes us to the role of morality, behavioural evolution, and outrage. What do we have in our toolkit that we can use to solve the problems of how to live together peacefully? And just how do you communicate your view or knowledge in a way that can be understood while inviting challenge in a respectful manner?
This episode introduces our new partnership with The Ethics Centre, a not for profit organisation who works to bring ethics to the centre of everyday life. We have joined forces, aligned by an intent to bring curiosity and generosity to conversations about the tough topics in our world. Dr Tim Dean is the senior philosopher at The Ethics Centre. We introduce Danielle Harvey, our new podcast producer who is also festival director of the Festival of Dangerous Ideas, which is presented by The Ethics Centre.
Tim Dean
Tim Dean is Senior Philosopher at The Ethics Centre, where he works to promote ethics in public and professional spheres. He has a Doctorate in philosophy from the University of New South Wales on the evolution of human nature and specialises in ethics, critical thinking and public philosophy. He is an Honorary Associate at the University of Sydney and the author of How We Became Human: And Why We Need to Change published by Pan Macmillan. Tim received the Australasian Association of Philosophy Media Professionals’ Award for his work on philosophy in public. He has delivered keynotes and workshops across Australia and the Asia Pacific for the likes of TEDx, Facebook, Commonwealth Bank, Aesop, Clayton Utz, the Art Gallery of NSW, the Sydney Opera House and the University of Sydney.
Danielle Harvey
Danielle Harvey is a curator, creative producer and director. Danielle works across festivals, live performance, talks, installation and digital spaces, creating layered programs that connect deeply with audiences. She is currently Festival Director of the infamous FESTIVAL OF DANGEROUS IDEAS and Director of the line-blurring theatrical events company Dancing Giant Productions. Danielle was creator of BINGEFEST (a festival celebrating digital culture) and ANTIDOTE (a festival of ideas and action), and co-creator of ALL ABOUT WOMEN (a feminist festival). She was the co-creator and originating director of the award-winning immersive experience A MIDNIGHT VISIT. Her latest immersive work ETERNITYLAND created a theatrical ‘playground’ to rave reviews. Past roles include Head of Contemporary Performance at Sydney Opera House, the Festival Executive Producer of the Sydney Gay & Lesbian Mardi Gras and the Director of Engagement for The Ethics Centre.
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.
This podcast is proud to partner with The Ethics Centre.
Find Lloyd @LloydVogelman on Linked in
Find Emile @EmileSherman on Linked In and Twitter.
This Podcast is Produced by Jonah Primo and Danielle Harvey
Find Jonah at jonahprimo.com or @JonahPrimo on Instagram
Find Danielle at danielleharvey.com.au
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With guests, Ahmed Elgammal and Michael Sacasas
In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.
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Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.
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This Podcast is Produced by Jonah Primo and Bronwen Reid
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In 2022, an AI generated work of art won a US state art competition. The artist used Midjourney, one of the popular AI systems that also include Dall-E and Stable Diffusion. They are trained on the millions of images scattered through the internet, using a deep learning program called a ‘generative adversarial network’, or GAN for short. It works by taking in text prompts, where you type in what you want the artwork to look like, and the AI then draws on the huge database of artworks, to generate a new work that conforms to the prompts.
But to create a great AI work, it’s not as simple as typing ‘create some great art’. The artist who won that competition put in lengthy complex prompts, working up hundreds of iterations before he arrived at the final work.
So, is this really art? When we see an AI art creation, it genuinely feels ‘creative’. But is there something humans do when we create which is qualitatively different to AI? Like AI in every domain it has touched, AI art is challenging us to rethink our categories and even to ask us to question what it means to be human.
Our guests for this conversation are both experts in the intersection between art and technology. Professor Ahmed Elgammal has actually constructed AI systems that have created artworks that are so good, a majority of people believe they are truly original human creations. Michael Sacasas,on the other hand, sees AI art as missing an essential ingredient, no matter how good its style is. It’ll never convey the deep connection between artist and viewer that we all crave.
Guests
Ahmed Elgammal
Dr. Ahmed Elgammal is a professor at the Department of Computer Science and an Executive Council Faculty at the Center for Cognitive Science at Rutgers University. He is the founder and director of the Art and Artificial Intelligence Laboratory at Rutgers. He is also the founder and CEO of Playform AI, a platform that is dedicated to give artist access to the latest generative AI tech. In 2017, he developed AICAN, an autonomous AI artist and collaborative creative partner, which was acclaimed in an Artsy editorial as “the biggest artistic achievement of the year.” In 2021, he led the AI team that completed Beethoven’s 10th symphony, which received worldwide media coverage. He received M.Sc. and Ph.D. degrees in computer science from the University of Maryland, College Park.
Michael Sacasas
Michael writes The Convivial Society, a popular newsletter on technology, culture, and the moral life. Michael has written for The New Atlantis, Comment, Plough, The New Inquiry, Real Life Magazine, Mere Orthodoxy, The American, and Second Nature Journal. His work has also been featured in The Atlantic, Vox, and the New York Times. He is the Executive Director, Christian Study Centre in Florida, and earned his MA in Theological Studies from Reformed Theological Seminary in 2002. He was later a doctoral candidate at the University of Central Florida studying the relationship between technology and society with a focus on the work of Hannah Arendt. He is an Associate Fellow in Ethics and Culture at the Greystone Theological Institute.
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With guests, Professor Mohamad Abdalla and Professor Robyn Horner
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Christianity and Islam are the two biggest religions on the globe, accounting for just over half the world’s population combined. Most of us know about the religion we belong and too often learn about other religions from the actions of extreme fundamentalists, mediated by the news, and by politics.
In this episode we go back to basics, to find out what Christianity and Islam actually believe. What are the essential building blocks of their theology? What do you need to believe as true? What is god, what is a soul, and what happens after death? And what exactly is the promise of the religion, whether it’s salvation or eternal life, and how do you achieve it?
The stakes are incredibly high when it comes to theology. Countless wars have been fought in the name of christianity and islam, both between these religions and between different sects within them. And whilst there are considerable overlaps which we will explore in this episode, there are also irreconcilable differences, differences not in mere preferences and values, but in the claim to the absolute truth of the nature of the universe, our place in it, the laws of how to live, our path to salvation and our purpose in life.
Guests
Professor Robyn Horner
Professor Robyn Horner is a teaching and research academic within the School of Theology, and a member of the Institute for Religion and Critical Inquiry (IRCI) at Australian Catholic University. From 2010-2015, she held the position of Associate Dean (Learning and Teaching) of the Faculty of Theology and Philosophy.
Formerly a teacher in Catholic primary and secondary schools, Robyn is a liturgical musician and composer,
Professor Mohamad Abdalla
Professor Abdalla has worked in the field of Islamic Studies for over 25 years and played a leading role in establishing Islamic Studies across Australian universities. He is currently the Founding Director, the Centre for Islamic Thought and Education (CITE). In 2020 he was appointed a Member of the Order of Australia (AM) for his outstanding service to education in the sphere of Islamic Studies. He established and led the Griffith University Islamic Research Unit (GIRU), at Griffith University in Brisbane (2006-2008); the National Centre of Excellence for Islamic Studies (NCEIS), a dynamic collaboration between the University of Melbourne, Griffith University and the University of Western Sydney (2008-2016).
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With guests, Dr Patti Ashley and Dr Tanveer Ahmed.
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It’s said that the world can be divided into shame based and guilt based cultures, with the west sitting firmly in the guilt side. This is because the west has prioritised this idea of the individual, with our sense of right and wrong a matter between ourself and whatever higher power we ascribe to – whether it's our god, the state laws, or our conscious itself.
In the west, guilt is seen as an appropriate and even productive emotion, with shame as the corrosive cousin. But in shame based cultures, which really make up most of the world, its shame, not guilt, that does the heavy lifting. And given most of us in the west live in rich multicultural communities, it’s important to understand shame if we’re going to understand what motivates the people around us.
In this conversation, we talk with a leading world expert about the deeply corrosive aspects of shame, and how to release its grip on us. We also speak with a leading psychiatrist who’s written a book in defence of shame, to see what benefits shame can bring. We’ll also open the lens a little wider, looking at how shame is used by conservatives, liberals, but more interestingly by the progressive left, which challenges us to be careful not to shame people’s sexual expressions, weight, or in fact anything that’s seen as an authentic version of oneself. Whilst at the same time, the left has very successfully used public shaming, including through cancel culture, as a way to regulate what can and can’t be said. And finally, we’ll discuss social media as the super-fuel for shame, as it provides us with an almost infinite community within which we seek praise, and fear condemnation.
Guests:
Dr Patti Ashley
Patti Ashley holds a doctor of philosophy degree in psychology from the Union Institute and University, a Master of Education degree in early childhood from Old Dominion University and a Bachelor of Science degree in special education from James Madison University. She is the author of Living in the Shadow : Treatment Strategies to overcome Core Shame and Reconstruct the Authentic Self.
An international workshop presenter, TEDxspeaker and psychotherapist, she owns and operates Authenticity Architects in Boulder, Colorado and Taos, New Mexico.
Dr Tanveer Ahmed
Tanveer Ahmed is a psychiatrist, author and columnist on social issues for the Australian Financial Review. His books include Fragile Nation about the cultural rise of mental health and In Defence of Shame. He is an adjunct lecturer for the University of New South Wales. He has served on local government, government advisory Boards and as a national representative for the Australian Medical Association. He is based in Sydney, Australia.
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Hosts Emile and Lloyd discuss some of the highlights of the past two years and run a slide rule over the Principle of Charity mission to inject curiosity and generosity back into our conversations on big social issues. They ponder if the show should be more volatile and tick off the hot topics they want to canvas with expert guests. AI for starters. “There’s a topic I want to look at, which is can AI create art,” says Emile. “I guess it goes to the core of what makes us human. I feel at the moment we are living in a very transactional world.” Has hosting the podcast changed their everyday conversations? Are they more charitable? “Definitely,” says Lloyd, “and I notice when I’m not charitable. “ Join Emile and Lloyd with producer (and inquisitor) Jonah Primo, for an hour of spirited reflections and ‘around the dinner table’ truth-seeking.
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How should we think and feel about so many things that are still so so bad, but, crucially here, so much better, than they were. Consider child mortality. Apparently, five million children under 5 died in the last year. Yet that number has more than halved in the last 30 years, which is again a huge reduction from the 20 million children under 5 who died each year in 1950. What do we do with information like this? Five million child deaths is an unacceptable tragedy. At the same time, 15 million children are essentially saved each year as compared to 1950.
In this episode we explore the fascinating and intellectually consistent but emotionally incongruent thought - that things are bad, but better. Our guests bring to light data that seldom features in newsfeeds and help to unpack both the great advances being made on the one hand, alongside the worsening situations confronted by many millions of people.
Guests
Francisco Ferreira is the Amartya Sen Professor of Inequality Studies at the London School of Economics, where he is also Director of the International Inequalities Institute.
Francisco is an economist working on the measurement, causes, and consequences of inequality and poverty in developing countries, with a special focus on Latin America. His work has been published widely and been awarded various prizes, including the Richard Stone Prize in Applied Econometrics and the Kendrick Prize from the International Association for Research in Income and Wealth.
He is also an Affiliated Scholar with the Stone Center at the City University of New York; Francisco currently serves as President of the Latin American and Caribbean Economic Association (LACEA).
Prior to joining the LSE, Francisco had a long career at the World Bank, where his positions included Chief Economist for the Africa Region He has also taught at the Paris School of Economics.
Francisco was born and raised in São Paulo, Brazil, and holds a Ph.D. in Economics from the London School of Economics.
Emma Varvaloucas, is the executive director of The Progress Network, where she writes the weekly What Could Go Right? newsletter and co-hosts the What Could Go Right? podcast. She was formerly the executive editor of Tricycle: The Buddhist Review. In addition to The Progress Network and Tricycle, her writing has also appeared in the New York Post and Forbes, and has been syndicated by Apple News.
Emma is a 2021 Dialog Emerging Fellow, a graduate of New York University, where she double-majored in journalism and religious studies.
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Women have, by and large, lived under the yoke of patriarchy, in various forms, for as long as… well, certainly as long as civilisations have existed. So it’s with some trepidation, and a little bit of cheekiness, that we’re airing the headwinds that face women alongside those that face men.
There’s the danger of moral equivalence, where two views are put side by side, giving the impression that they’re both of equal weight, when they’re clearly not. And if our lens was the world as a whole, then there’s no doubt that you can’t compare the headwinds facing women with those of men, as there is still legally sanctioned sex discrimination against women in many countries.
But in this episode we focus in on the west where formal discrimination ended on the tailwind of second wave feminism in the 70s and where there’s a more nuanced and complicated story to tell.
There are now a whole range of areas in which men fare worse than women. From the basics of life expectancy, to drug addiction, to suicide rates, to a job market where traditional female jobs are growing faster than traditional male jobs, there’s real concern for the future of our boys. In a world that rightly wants to open up all opportunities to everyone, regardless of gender is there a way for masculinity to define itself, to find solid ground, without excluding women? And on the other side, why does the feminist goal of true equality still seem out of reach in so many spheres? How do we root out unconscious bias and structural sexism?
Guests
Dr Caroline Lambert
Caroline has worked in gender equality and social change for over 35 years, holding senior roles as the executive director of YWCA Australia, and as the director of research, policy and advocacy at the International Women’s Development Agency. She is a former board chair Women’s Housing, Victoria, former Vice President Amnesty International Australia, director Arts Access, Victoria and current director YWCA Australia. She currently consults to feminist and human rights organisations globally and in Australia.
Matt Tyler
Matt Tyler is Executive Director of The Men’s Project at Jesuit Social Services, working with a team committed to providing leadership on the reduction of violence and other harmful behaviours prevalent among boys and men.
Prior to joining Jesuit Social Services, Matt worked as a Fellow for Harvard’s Government Performance Lab, an economist on Australia’s foreign aid program focused on South-East Asia, a policy adviser to the Australian Labor Party, a strategy consultant for Australia’s largest companies, and a researcher on an Australian Research Council grant seeking to improve Indigenous Australian men’s health. He holds a Master of Public Policy from Harvard’s Kennedy School, Honours in Economics (University Medal) from Monash University, and a B.A (Psychology) / B.Comm (Finance) from the University of Melbourne.
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Spotlight with Jane Campion: can creativity help us leap outside ourselves?
Multiple academy award winning writer and director Jane Campion (The Piano The Power of the Dog) joins Emile and Lloyd for a fascinating conversation on creativity and how it can change and enhance our understanding of each other. Jane explains her creative practices and in particular her use of dream therapy to tap into the subconscious and write characters like Phil Burbank, the protagonist in The Power of the Dog, her 2022 Academy Award-winning film.
Emile and Jane have worked closely together on television series and films. Emile, an Academy Award winning producer (The King’s Speech) describes creativity as an extraordinary movement towards the lives of others. “It’s an incredibly powerful muscle that forces you outside of yourself and into the most generous version of other experiences, as you can’t create rich and believable characters unless you know them from the inside out.
“I was excited to get on someone on the podcast who can talk to us in a deep way about creativity, and what it might offer for better understanding points of view we disagree with. And by far the best person I could think of is Jane.”
Guest: Jane Campion
Jane Campion was born in New Zealand and has directed many feature films including THE PIANO, for which she won the Palme D’Or at Cannes, becoming the first woman to receive this award. The film was nominated for 9 Academy Awards, including nominations for Campion for Best Director & Best Original Screenplay, the latter of which she won.
Her most recent film, THE POWER OF THE DOG (2022) received 12 Academy Award nominations including for Best Director which Jane won. The film also won Best Film at the BAFTA.
Her other films include AN ANGEL AT MY TABLE which won 7 prizes at the 47th Venice Film Festival, including the Silver Lion; THE PORTRAIT OF A LADY which closed the 53rd Venice Film Festival and won the Francesco Pasinetti Award; and HOLY SMOKE which was nominated for the Golden Lion at the 56th Venice Film Festival and won the Elvira Notari Prize.
The two season limited-series TOP OF THE LAKE which Campion created, co-wrote, executive produced and directed 5 of the 12 episodes, received 8 Emmy Award nominations and premiered at Sundance, Berlin and Cannes Film Festivals.
Jane was President of the Jury at 54th Venice Film Festival and returned in 2008 as a Jury Member.
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Thirty years talking to kids, parents and teachers and analyzing data from across the globe, has led US educator Michele Borba to a categoric conclusion: parents can indeed shape those character strengths of their children that will ultimately determine how successful they are in life.
So what are the character traits that can be moulded and how should parents go about doing it in ways that a child will respond to? Can you teach resilience and optimism? Emile and Lloyd discuss with Michele the dilemmas for parents awash with advice and pressure on how to raise their kids.
Michele Borba
Dr Michele Borba is an internationally recognised parenting and child development expert. She has a doctorate in educational psychology from the University of San Francisco and began her professional life as a specialist teacher to children with learning disabilities.
Her guide to raising children focuses on strengthening children’s character, resilience and ‘moral intelligence’ and her evidence-based advocacy for cultivating empathy in children has captured the attention of governments, corporations and educators across the globe.
She was named Honorary Chairperson for Self-Esteem in Hong Kong, consultant for the Character Education and Civic Engagement for the U.S. Dept of Education, Disney Influencer, and Goodwill Ambassador for M.I.T.’s One Laptop per Child project.
Michele is also an author. Her books have been translated into 19 languages. Among her most popular titles is Parents Do Make A Difference, How to Raise Kids with Solid Character, Strong Minds and Caring Hearts. Her most recent book Thrivers: Surprising Reasons Why Some Kids Struggle and Others Shine is a best-seller.
A frequent guest on the US “Today” Show, Michele has received numerous awards including the National Educator Award (presented by the National Council of Self-Esteem), Outstanding Contribution to the Educational Profession by the Bureau of Education and Research and a 2016 SHORTY nominee for “Best Social Media Influencer in Parenting.”
She’s also a parent to three sons.
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Behavioural geneticist Robert Plomin’s book Blueprint, How DNA Makes Us Who We Are has changed lives. Robert is arguably the leading figure in behavioural genetics, working across the field for many decades. In his book Blueprint, he shows us the extraordinary evidence for our genetic nature being the absolutely dominant force in predicting who we are and will become. In fact about 50% of everything we care about is predicted by our genes. Not just our weight and height, but schizophrenia, anxiety and depression, to personality traits like agreeableness, grit, and love of learning, through to general intelligence and even university success.
Emile and Lloyd probe Robert for the implications his research has for how we approach parenting. Outside of loving and protecting our children, Robert says parents can let go a bit of that inner panic that tells them that their role is to mould their kids, that their actions are crucial determinants in their children growing up to be smart, resilient, growth mindset, kind, enthusiastic, healthy, non-anxious or depressed, adults. Parents are just not that important, except in the genes they’ve passed on. Most radically of all, Plomin entreats us to focus on enjoying our time with our children, saying that parenting matters most just through the quality of our experiences together.
Robert Plomin
Robert Plomin is Professor of Behavioural Genetics in the Social, Genetic and Developmental Psychiatry (SGDP) Centre at The Institute of Psychiatry, Psychology and Neuroscience, King’s College London. His research brings together genetic and environmental strategies to investigate the developmental interplay between nature and nurture. In 1994 when he came to the UK from the US, he launched the Twins Early Development Study (TEDS), which continues to thrive. He has published more than 900 papers and a dozen books, which have been cited more than 130,000 times. His latest book is Blueprint: How DNA Makes Us Who We Are (Penguin, 2019).
After 50 years of research, Robert has come to the view that inherited DNA differences are the major systematic force that makes us who we are as individuals – our mental health and illness, our personality and our cognitive abilities and disabilities. The environment is important, but it works completely different from the way we thought it worked. The DNA revolution has made it possible to use DNA to predict our psychological problems and promise from birth. These advances in genetic research call for a radical rethink about what makes us who we are, with sweeping, and no doubt controversial, implications for the way we think about parenting, education and the events that shape our lives.
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Trigger warnings have become common practice these days, not just in university campuses, but across the media landscape, in film, television, online and social media. They warn us that the material we’re about to see or hear might trigger distress. But what actually is a trigger? And what’s it meant to protect us from?
Trigger warnings were originally linked with post traumatic stress disorder - the idea being that those who have been through a traumatic event, for example sexual violence, and who then suffer from PTSD, can be triggered into re-experiencing that distress when exposed to related content. These days, however, trigger warnings seem to capture any sort of potentially distressing content, and are aimed at everyone, whether we have clinical PTSD or not. The idea is that we should be (or maybe even we have the right to be) warned about distressing content in advance.
But do trigger warnings work effectively? Do people in practice avoid content that may be triggering and if they choose to watch, are people able to prepare themselves emotionally, to reduce the impact of the material. Or, does the opposite happen - is there an ‘anticipatory effect’ where people get more distressed as they wait for and brace for the traumatic content.
Our guests on this podcast bring two different views to the table. Victoria Bridgland is a psychologist who has done detailed data based research into trigger warnings and has concluded not only that they don’t work, but that they are likely to exacerbate distress. Sociologist Nicole Bedera sees trigger warnings as important but not enough. She believes we need institutions that do much more to support those who’ve been through trauma, particularly sexual assault, otherwise they’re at risk of a secondary trauma caused by ‘institutional betrayal’.
Guests:
Nicole Bedera, Ph.D. is a sociologist at the University of Michigan and author of the forthcoming book On the Wrong Side: How Universities Betray Survivors to Protect Perpetrators of Sexual Assault.
Her research broadly focuses on how our social structures contribute to survivors’ trauma and make sexual violence more likely to occur in the future.
Her scholarship has influenced sexual violence prevention programming across the United States, including for Planned Parenthood, and her work has featured in media including The New York Times, NPR, andthe BBC.
Victoria Bridgland
Victoria graduated with a research PhD in 2021 from Flinders University.
Victoria’s research interests include expectancy effects, emotional regulation, and memory for traumatic events. Her main body of work concerns trigger warnings, and what benefit – if any – they have for people encountering negative material.
Victoria currently serves on the Student Caucus Executive board for the Society for Applied Research in Memory and Cognition.
In 2019 Victoria won a South Australian Postgraduate Fulbright Scholarship.
Victoria is currently at Harvard, with her research focussing on trigger warnings in art spaces.
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"The world has never been more connected. Yet never more divided. We yell at each other from inside our echo chambers. But change doesn’t happen inside an echo chamber." - Uncomfortable Conversations
This week Emile and Lloyd guest on Josh's show.
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What do we do when we don’t feel well and mainstream western medicine can’t seem to help us. Maybe it’s an irritable bowel, headaches that come too frequently, chronic fatigue or joint pain that just won’t go away. Maybe it’s more serious - a life-threatening diagnosis of cancer, or a neurological condition like parkinsons, and we are told by doctors that there’s no cure or they have limited treatment options. In all these cases, how should we assess complementary medicine? The alternative medicine market is a massive and growing industry increasingly framing health as ‘wellness’ which aims to help us live a life of flourishing rather than just an absence of illness. Is there a point, though, when the therapies shift from helpful to hoax?
In this episode with our guests Dr Norman Swan and Dr Penny Caldicott we explore what’s reasonable to do if we feel sick, but our doctor doesn’t seem to be able to help.
Dr Norman Swan
Norman is a multi-award winning broadcaster, journalist and commentator. He is the host and creator of the Health Report, on ABC Radio National, which is the longest running health programme in the English-speaking world.
Norman consulted for the World Health Organisation on global priorities in health research, putting evidence into health policy and clinical trial registration. He co-facilitated, with Richard Horton (editor in chief of The Lancet) a global ministerial forum in Bamako, West Africa which aimed to advance the global health agenda.
In his latest book “So You Want To Live Longer, Younger” Norman scrutinises the science and the fads to offer up a guide to living a longer, healthier life.
Dr Penny Caldicott
Penny is president of the Australasian Integrative Medicine Association.
She’s also the founder and director of Invitation to Health, a holistic, patient-centred medical service on the New South Wales Central Coast.
Since graduating from medical school more than two decades ago, Penny’s passion for understanding the journey that contributes to a patient's disease has led her to practice what’s called integrative medicine. In this practice, complementary therapists like naturopaths and nutritionists work together with gp’s in an environment designed to apply the best of evidence-based conventional medicine and complementary therapies..
Penny believes that this kind of collaborative approach to the prevention of disease can play a significant role in turning back chronic disease in Australia. She’s a strong advocate within the medical establishment and to governments for a pre-emptive model of health care, one that aspires to both prevent chronic disease and to accompany patients back towards well being.
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In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an unfiltered conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.
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Australian Claire Lehmann left university and founded the online magazine Quillette to counter what she saw as an orthodoxy in knowledge coming from the progressive left. Claire perceived a lack of rigor in the humanities where, it seemed to her, ideology was trumping evidence.
Since its inception as a start-up in 2015, Quillette has gone on to achieve an international reputation for free speech advocacy, political commentary and journalism, appealing to as many as two million followers a month. It’s become a community for people who feel they’ve been ostracised by a progressive left wing media that doesn’t allow room for differing viewpoints.
In this Spotlight episode, we explore with Claire some of the big issues facing the traditional institutions of academia and of journalism when it comes to the production of knowledge. Claire assesses the advantages of not just Quillette but of the online media landscape which has given voice to a whole range of people and diverse voices. We also probe the limitations of this world of online journalism, and ask Claire whether there’s sufficient rigor to ensure that knowledge is being improved.
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Claire Lehmann
Claire is the founder and editor in chief of Quillette. She was named among “Ten Aussies who Shook the World in Tech and Media” in 2018, and is a weekly contributor to The Australian. She co edited Panics and Persecutions: 20 Tales of Excommunication in the Digital Age which was published in 2020.
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Internationally recognised economist, educator and host of the podcast EconTalk, Dr Russ Roberts, discusses wealth and inequality under capitalism and questions whether there is real harm in inequality. Rather, in distinguishing inequality from poverty he says it’s the damage from poverty, not inequality, that’s more deserving of public concern and political focus. In a wide ranging discussion, we discuss whether the rich really deserve their spoils, how rigged the system actually is, and whether economics as a discipline is able to incorporate all the crucial non monetary aspects of life, like dignity and self fulfillment.
Russ RobertsRuss is the President of Shalem College in Jerusalem and the John and Jean De Nault Research Fellow at Stanford University’s Hoover Institution. The author of three fiction novels, Russ sought to popularise economic ideas like wealth creation, the unseen forces that sustain economic opportunity and the morality of the marketplace. His passion for teaching and education led him into the world of rap where he produced blockbuster videos on the giants of economics, John Maynard Keynes and FA Hayek.
Russ hosts the podcast EconTalk and in his latest book Wild Problems: A Guide to the Decisions that Define Us he dissects the challenge of making big life decisions - like whether to marry or have children - when there is little analytical evidence to guide us.
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In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has an uninhibited conversation with the guests, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.
Chloe Valdary
Chloe is the founder of the Theory of Enchantment, a conflict resolution model for businesses and workplaces that was developed by Chloe. It places compassion at the centre of diversity inclusion training and, as she puts it, endeavours to fight bigotry with love. The Theory of Enchantment stresses character development, social emotional learning and interpersonal growth as ways to combat racism. A black American woman, Chloe is vocal in her opposition to ‘identity politics’ as a way to combat racism. She’s the host of The Heart Speaks podcast.
Ian Haney Lopez
Ian is a professor of public law at the University of California, Berkeley. He teaches in the area of race, constitutional law and critical race theory, and is one of America’s leading thinkers on how racism has evolved since the civil rights era. His current research emphasizes the connection between racial divisions and growing wealth inequality in the US. In his most recent book Merge Left he identifies ways to neutralise political racism and build cross-racial solidarity.
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International scholar and doyen of critical race theory Prof Ian Haney Lopez and writer and entrepreneur Chloe Valdary are powerful voices in the strident and polarising debates surrounding identity politics. In this episode, we explore the shift in the understanding of racism, from the traditional liberal notion that we should treat everyone equally, to a politics actually based on race consciousness and racial identity.
We look at where this shift is helpful, and where it might be less helpful. Does it give us the tools to see through structural racism and unconscious biases and to end racial injustice? Or does this ideology drive a wedge between us, treating us as groups and not individuals, making us feel further apart and less inclined to care for each other? In this conversation, Chloe and Ian bring their very different perspectives, exposing where the intellectual faultlines exist, all within a fierce shared commitment to racial justice.
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In Principle of Charity on the Couch, Lloyd has a more relaxed conversation with the guest, throws them curveballs, and gets into the personal side of Principle of Charity.
US writer and author of The Constitution of Knowledge Jonathan Rauch, explains what ‘truth’ is and why and how we must defend it. In a fascinating account of how liberal democracies ‘produce’ knowledge, Jonathan describes this unwritten ‘constitution of knowledge’ as a global process of error checking with millions of people around the world, thousands of institutions, all searching for each other’s errors. Rauch says this social production of knowledge which began around 200 years ago turns out to be a species transforming technology that “produces more new knowledge in a given morning than humanity did in the first 200,000 years”.
This is a Spotlight episode, where we look for guests who’s work deepens our understanding of the principle of charity.
Jonathan Rauch
Jonathan is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington D.C. He’s the author of eight books and numerous articles on public policy, culture and government. His latest book The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth provides an account of how to push back against disinformation, canceling, and other new threats to our fact-based epistemic order.
An advocate for same-sex marriage, Jonathan wrote Gay Marriage: Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America.
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US writer and author of The Constitution of Knowledge Jonathan Rauch, explains what ‘truth’ is and why and how we must defend it. In a fascinating account of how liberal democracies ‘produce’ knowledge, Jonathan describes this unwritten ‘constitution of knowledge’ as a global process of error checking with millions of people around the world, thousands of institutions, all searching for each other’s errors. Rauch says this social production of knowledge which began around 200 years ago turns out to be a species transforming technology that “produces more new knowledge in a given morning than humanity did in the first 200,000 years”.
This is a Spotlight episode, where we look for guests who’s work deepens our understanding of the principle of charity.
Jonathan Rauch
Jonathan is a senior fellow at the Brookings Institution in Washington D.C. He’s the author of eight books and numerous articles on public policy, culture and government. His latest book The Constitution of Knowledge: A Defense of Truth provides an account of how to push back against disinformation, canceling, and other new threats to our fact-based epistemic order.
An advocate for same-sex marriage, Jonathan wrote Gay Marriage: Why It Is Good for Gays, Good for Straights, and Good for America.
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Welcome to Season 3 of Principle of Charity, where we explore social issues with curiosity, generosity and humility. It’s been remarkable seeing the growth in our audience over the last season.
The big news is, Season 3 launches next week!
We’ve got some fantastic topics and guests already in the can, exploring identity politics, inequality, whether we can mould our kids, alternative medicine, and so much more, with the world’s top experts.
We’re also trialing a few new ideas, like splitting each topic into two parts, so that we can release new episodes close to every week, making us a more regular part of your lives. Hope you enjoy, and thanks for spreading the word.
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To round off Season 2, Principle of Charity producer Jonah Primo talks with hosts Emile Sherman and Lloyd Vogelman, delving into what they’ve learned from the season, whether they’ve changed their minds, how the podcast has evolved and where it goes from here.
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What do we do with our mental suffering? From everyday anger and disappointments, to life defining moments of grief and pain, we are all dealing with our emotional life, much of which can be challenging. In this episode we are going to explore two great models - meditation and psychoanalysis, to look at what they have in common and how they differ.
Meditation, particularly mindfulness meditation, has made its way into the west and permeates so much of society these days. The catchphrase mindfulness has become a mantra for how we’re meant to approach everything, from how we eat to what we wear. But meditation itself asks us to do what many find unbearable. To simply sit and to become aware of our thoughts and feelings. In creating this little gap, their grip on us loosens.
This is generally where meditation stops. At a calmer, more peaceful, more ‘in control’ place. But Buddhism, the spiritual tradition we most associate with meditation, sees meditation as a key stone on the path to no less than spiritual enlightenment itself. A journey into the dissolution of the ego (in a traditional sense) and a return to a pure state of awareness.
Psychoanalysis comes from an entirely different tradition but strangely shares much overlap with meditation. It too asks us to stop, to listen to our inner voices, and to create a gap of analysis between ourselves and the forces that move and shake us so vigorously. It sees humans as a bundle of contradictory impulses with much of our deep self hidden within our subconscious, out of view of our conscious minds. It sees our suffering coming from adaptations we had to form in childhood which kept us safe and still keep us safe from painful feelings. We can see them in our patterns of behavior and we can only break their spell if we’re prepared to open ourselves up to the repressed and often painful moments that we hide from. All of this plays out in the very live dynamic between patient and the analyst in the room. Psychoanalysis doesn’t promise happiness. It recognises that suffering is a part of life, and it helps us to a life of greater depth, meaning and growth.
Both meditation and psychoanalysis ask us to sit with ourselves, often uncomfortably. But where meditation turns us finally towards the pure space of awareness, psychoanalysis sees healing in unravelling the knot of our selves.
To help us through this, we have Buddhist nun and teacher Samaneri Jayasara and psychoanalyst Sonia Wechsler.
Samaneri Jayasara has studied and practised Buddhism and meditation for over 35 years.
She has a PhD and Master’s Degree in education, focusing on comparative spiritual traditions, Buddhism and psychotherapy. She has taught at secondary, undergraduate and post-graduate levels in psychology and counselling, and also worked as a trainer in mental health and crisis intervention in the welfare sector.
Sonia Wechsler is a Clinical Psychologist and Child, Adolescent and Adult Psychoanalyst with over 20 years of clinical experience. She completed her psychoanalytic training with the Sydney Institute of Psychoanalysis and has presented clinical papers on psychoanalysis at national and international conferences. She consults to a number of non-government organisations and Headspace.
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When someone breaks the law, most of us have an instinct that they should be punished. In fact, that they deserve to be punished. At the base of this is a sense that we are morally responsible for our actions and we should get our ‘just deserts’ if we make bad choices.
This assumption is deeply encoded in the criminal law itself. Sure, there are other reasons we may want to put criminals behind bars – keeping society safe, deterring others from committing the same crime, even rehabilitation. But deep down lies the instinct of ‘retribution’, that a person who has done wrong just deserves to be punished for their wrongdoing.
But why do they? Well, at the root of it is our cherished belief that we have ‘free will’. That we make our decisions freely and that we can choose to act differently.
Our guest Gregg Carusso rejects this idea entirely. He sees free will as an illusion. He asks us to consider a justice system built entirely without retributive justice, where no one is imprisoned because they ‘deserve’ to be punished. Gregg is Professor of Philosophy, State University New York, Corning, Honorary Professor at Sydney’s Macquarie University and Co Director of the Justice Without Retribution Network at the University of Aberdeen, Scotland.
In his latest book Just Deserts, Gregg debates with fellow philosopher Daniel C Dennett moral responsibility, punishment and free will.
Our other guest, Katrina Sifferd believes the justice system can and should be grounded in a concept of free will. She shares some concerns with Gregg that the system is at times overly punitive, but believes that we have the capacity to act as morally responsible individuals. In fact, in her book ‘Responsible Brains’, she looks at the neuroscience at work in our brain, and sees our ‘executive function’ as the seat of our moral responsibility. Katrina is professor and chair of philosophy at Chicago’s Elmurst University and co editor in chief of the publication Neuro-ethics. Katrina earned a Juris Doctorate and has worked on criminal justice projects for the US National Institute of Justice. She is the author of numerous articles and book chapters on responsibility, criminal law and punishment.
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Immigration is such a hot topic. Our borders are, in a sense, our collective skin and the question of who we let in seems to activate our primal instincts. Who comes in can feel and can at times be dangerous.
Yet we want new ideas, new brain and brawn-power to fuel our country. A larger population can bring greater economic growth and prosperity. And with fertility rates below replacement level in most wealthy countries, our population will decline without immigration.
There’s our sense of identity at stake as well – who are we as a nation? Are we defined through an ethnicity or particularly culture, as many nations today still are? Or do we define ourselves through our heritage, our stories, our values?
The lens we bring to immigration often colours our reading of the facts. Do immigrants ‘take our jobs’ or do they add to the pool of consumers and producers that make us bigger and more interesting? Are immigrants more likely to turn to crime, or are they in fact harder working than the local population? Will they join and grow the story of our nation, or will they remain foreign?
But most importantly for this episode, how many immigrants can our natural environment and our infrastructure bear before the burden outweighs the benefits for the local population? And are these hard limits or can we invent and invest our way out of them?
To help us through this, we have George Megalogenis and Bob Carr.
George Megalogenis is a strong advocate for greater immigration. He’s a journalist and author of five books including The Australian Moment which won the 2013 Prime Minister's Literary Award for Non-fiction and formed the basis for his three-part ABC documentary series Making Australia Great. George’s other books include Faultlines, The Longest Decade, Australia’s Second Chance, The Football Solution and Balancing Act.
Former Foreign Affairs Minister and the longest continuously serving Premier of New South Wales, Bob Carr, is an author of multiple books and is currently Professor of Climate and Business at the Institute of Sustainable Futures at the University of Technology Sydney. He is outspoken in his concerns for the environmental limits of immigration
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Up until not that long ago, storytellers were encouraged to flex their creative muscles, to look outside themselves, and armed with their imagination as well as a lot of research, to bring to life characters, stories and worlds that they didn’t inhabit themselves, often worlds vastly different to the culture they’ve grown up in.
But relatively recently, storytellers have received a huge challenge from the progressive left, a challenge that has now permeated the creative arts. It suggests that entering other cultures, particularly marginalised ones, and telling stories of their people, drawing from the well of their cultural reservoir, is akin to an act of theft.
The critique goes further than theft though. It includes other challenges: if you’re from a dominant culture, and you’re telling stories of people that your culture has historically colonised or oppressed, then you are effectively compounding the oppression, as you are once again taking their voices and imposing your narrative on theirs.
There’s a question of authenticity as well: because you, the writer, are not from their culture, do not have their lived experience, then you can never truly represent them except in an inauthentic and often demeaning way. No matter how much research you do, you’ll at best create a pale imitation of an authentically voiced story, and at worst you’ll create two dimensional, dangerously cliched, even racist caricatures.
This is highly complex ground, with issues of creativity, aesthetic merit, theft, caricatures, of power and colonisation, all competing to control the narrative of who has the right to tell stories.
Our two guests, Daniel Browning and James O Young, share a great sensitivity to culture, to forms of oppression, and to the power of storytelling. But they’ve come to very different views on cultural appropriation in storytelling.
Daniel Browning is an Aboriginal Australian journalist, radio broadcaster, sound artist and writer. He presents The Art Show on Radio National and is the ABC’s Editor of Indigenous Radio. A visual arts graduate, Daniel is also a widely published freelance writer on the arts and culture. Daniel is a descendant of the Bundjalung and Kullilli peoples of far northern New South Wales and south-western Queensland.
James O. Young is Professor of Philosophy at the University of Victoria in Canada. He specialises in philosophical issues related to the arts and has written several books including Cultural Appropriation of the Arts (2008). He was elected to the Royal Society of Canada in 2015.
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In this episode, we explore the two great movements of the political right - liberalism of the right and conservatism. They are such different political philosophies, yet they share the same bed, uneasily much of the time, in right wing politics.
By liberalism, we mean the political philosophy that champions individual rights and freedoms, private property and equality before the law. It’s linked with the rise of democracies and of capitalism, replacing social structures defined by hereditary, class and gender privilege as well as the divine right of kings.
Today, liberalism crosses over the left and the right of politics in most western countries. The left leaning or progressive liberals focus most heavily on the equality side, ensuring that people are not just treated equally under law but that the race itself is fair.
Liberalism of the right however, the one we’re focused on in this episode, is much more concerned with individual freedoms, individual responsibility, property rights and equality before the law. It wants to ensure that, wherever you start the journey of life, you are given the opportunity to succeed based on your merit and ambition.
The other great movement of the right, conservatism, is in one sense a stance, an attitude that is suspicious of change and asks us to proceed with caution, knowing that social order is easy to break and hard to build. But it’s also a political philosophy that values traditions, customs, a common moral code, authority, loyalty to community and country, focusing on duties rather than rights.
The purpose of this episode is to explore these two great movements of the political right, which clash and crash into each other, competing for dominance, as we look at which one offers the best model for society.
Our two guests are Tim Wilson MP and Gray Connolly.
Tim Wilson is a Federal Liberal Member in the Australian Parliament and is Chair of the House of Representatives Standing Committee on Economics. He was formerly Australia’s Human Rights Commissioner. Tim is a strong advocate for protecting free speech and freedom of religion. His book The New Social Contract; Renewing the Liberal Vision for Australia, passionately champions liberal ideals of the right.
Gray Connolly is a Barrister, lectures in Australian Constitutional Law, and has advised the Australian Government on national security matters. He is a Lieutenant Commander in the Royal Australian Navy and has served on deployments all over the world. Gray is a passionate conservative and a frequent conservative panellist for ABC radio and television, as well as publishing articles in various journals.
Both Tim and Gray sit firmly within the right rather than the Left of politics. But they advocate for very different models of society. Tim has said that conservatism offers little or nothing to young Australians. And Gray has dismissed liberalism as naïve. But they have great respect for each other in this fascinating conversation.
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What do we do, as a society, with people who want to die? We’re talking here about those with a terminal illness, who know that the rest of their waking hours will be filled with much pain, and who want to choose when and how to end it.
Do we have the right to end our life on our terms, or is life so precious that even we can’t extinguish it? And if we do open the door, what are the potential pitfalls? Could it be used against the vulnerable, manipulating those who feel like a burden? And are there other slippery slopes to be wary of which may open the door too wide? What's the most compassionate thing to do, and how does all of this feed into the medical professions’ duty of care?
There’s a lot at stake with legislation going through parliament in countries all around the world.
To help us through, we have award-winning writer, performer, and producer Andrew Denton. Andrew has devoted this stage of his career advocating for Voluntary Assisted Dying through his organisation Go Gentle Australia. His two podcast series Better Off Dead have helped inform the debate around end-of-life choices.
We also have Bernadette Tobin, a passionate advocate against voluntary euthanasia. Bernadette is director of the Plunkett Centre for Ethics at St Vincent’s Hospital, Sydney, and Reader in Philosophy at Australian Catholic University. Bernadette has Honorary Appointments in the Medical Faculties of both the University of New South Wales (via the Clinical School at St Vincent’s) and the University of Sydney (via the Clinical School at the Children’s Hospital at Westmead). She is a member of the Pontifical Academy for Life.
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Why is it so important to understand other points of view? How do we escape our own bubbles of bias? And when should we stop listening and focus on winning?
In this special episode, we shine a light on the ‘Principle of Charity’ itself. We look at what exactly it is and why it’s so important. We then go one layer deeper and ask when it might be problematic or unhelpful to use it.
To do all of this, we have the fabulous Tim Minchin.
Tim is a renowned musician, comedian, composer, actor and writer. He’s best known for his extraordinarily clever and memorable songs, as well as his work as composer and lyricist of two hit West End and Broadway musicals, Matilda and Groundhog Day, both of which won the Olivier Award for Best West End Musical and garnered Tony Award nominations.
Tim is passionate about the need to have more respectful conversations and is an advocate for science and reason. He created the poem, book and animation Storm that brilliantly dramatises the philosophy of science.
Most importantly, he came up with the name for our podcast.
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Everyone is talking about “social impact”, or “purpose”, as a way for business to deliver greater good to society. But does having a social purpose actually help society any more than a business just focused on making goods that people want to buy, for profit?
Is social impact hollow virtue signaling, a marketing tool to make customers feel warm and fuzzy? Or does it in fact signal a profound shift in our attitude to capitalism, where the common good is finally put first, where it belongs?
With a global impact investment market at $715 billion worldwide, ESG (Environmental, Social and Corporate Governance) assets under management of $38 trillion, and businesses everywhere writing their impact manifestos, the stakes are high.
Andy Kuper is the CEO of LeapFrog Investments, and a founding father of “profit with purpose” movement. He joins Judith Sloan, Contributing Economics Editor with The Australian newspaper, and a strong advocate for the simplicity of profit, as we deep dive into this fascinating topic.
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We first touch on the perennial question, whether technological disruption, this time in the form of AI, will ultimately eat our jobs so entirely that there’s no paid work left for us to do.
We then take this prospect seriously enough to ask - will that in fact be a good thing?
Is paid employment the cornerstone for the good life; rich with purpose, meaning, providing us the reward for our efforts, keeping us out of mischief, and holding society together?
OR, is work, in fact, the pain we go through to have leisure. And freed from work, would we be able to find a greater sense of flourishing, as we use our time for family, community, pursuing interests, or just having fun.
We have one of Australia’s leading public policy thinkers, John Daley, former CEO of the Grattan Institute, to console us that neither jobs nor the role of paid work, will be going anywhere, anytime. And philosopher Simon Longstaff, executive director of The Ethics Centre, who holds the contrary view, urging us to rethink the role and importance of paid work.
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We are not here to argue whether climate change is real or not. It’s real, and it’s bad. We are here to ask the much edgier question - should we fight or adapt?
Our guests include Rebecca Huntley, one of Australia’s leading social researchers, who shifted her entire career to exclusively fight climate change, using her expertise in human behavior to galvanise action.
We also have Alan Heeks, a representative of the Deep Adaptation movement, which urges us to accept the catastrophic reality of climate change, and start a process of acceptance, adaptation, and building resilience.
This episode turns our attention to the much overlooked emotional responses to climate change. From guilt, fear, anger, grief, acceptance, hope and love - what are the most appropriate emotions, and what are the most helpful as we face this global threat? Is telling the truth always the best path forward?
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Leading economist Gigi Foster lets us in on the dirty little secret - our lives have been given a dollar value, and it’s used by governments to make a whole range of decisions, from whether we’re given that life saving medicine, to when to shut down an economy because of a pandemic. Covid19 has let us into this secret room, as we as a society grapple with how much economic pain we should suffer to protect the lives of the elderly and vulnerable. One of Gigi’s most articulate critics, moral philosopher Matt Beard, joins Gigi as we unpack the pros and cons of putting a dollar value on the most precious thing of all - our lives.
Gigi Foster is a Professor with the School of Economics at the University of New South Wales. Educated at Yale and the University of Maryland, in 2019 she was named Young Economist of the Year by the Economic Society of Australia. Gigi is one of Australia’s leading economics communicators, and co-hosts The Economists, a national economics talk-radio program on ABC Radio National.
Matt Beard is a moral philosopher with a background in applied and military ethics. He has taught philosophy and ethics at university for several years. Matt is extensively published, a columnist with New Philosopher magazine, and a podcaster on the ABC’s Short & Curly program.
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.
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Media professor and feminist Catharine Lumby sees a role for pornography in a healthy sexual diet, whereas public ethics professor Clive Hamilton has the self-confessed unfashionable view that it’s destructive and demeaning. They’ve clashed in the media, and we bring them together for the first time to see if we can tease out this complex topic, in a conversation that exemplifies the principle of charity.
Everyone seems to be looking at pornography but its rarely discussed.
35% of all internet downloads are estimated to be porn-related, and porn sites receive more regular traffic than Netflix, Amazon, & Twitter combined each month. A third of porn users are female, and the industry is estimated to be worth $97 billion worldwide.
So is pornography a healthy form of sexual expression, exploration and enjoyment for all these people? And a thriving industry of empowered performers?
Or is pornography exploitative, demeaning, and ultimately destructive to our intimate relationships, even sometimes promoting violence against women?
Our guests are Catharine Lumby and Clive Hamilton. Catharine is Professor of Media at Sydney University. She’s written extensively on this topic as an author, and is a frequent media commentator across print, radio and television. Clive is Professor of Public Ethics at Charles Sturt University. He has held academic positions at the University of Oxford and Yale. Clive was the executive director of public policy think tank The Australian Institute.
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman,
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https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydvogelman
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Fat Pig Farm owner and author Matthew Evans and vegan animal advocate Ondine Sherman of Voiceless join us to discuss whether it’s moral to eat meat.
How are we to make sense of the incredibly complex topic of meat. First of all, is it right to take a sentient life?
What about our evolution, our nature, our culture, and our taste-buds, all powerful forces that drive most of us to eat meat?
Each year over 70 billion land animals and a trillion sea animals are killed for food. The vast majority of land animals live in factory farms.
Have we, as a society, sanctioned the way these animals are raised for our consumption? Do we even know what goes on behind those walls?
We look at all of this, plus questions like: Can we live healthy lives without meat? How does the raising of animals impact the environment and climate change? What about the huge numbers of animals that are killed growing crops?
And what about free range; can we feed the world’s growing billions that way, at an affordable price?
At the core of all of this, however, are the animals, whose experiences we are only starting to understand. We hold their lives in our hands. Have we fully reckoned with that responsibility?
Our guests are Matthew Evans and Ondine Sherman. Matthew is a television presenter and author of the ethical meat eating manifesto “On Eating Meat”. Matthew runs Fat Pig Farm in Tasmania, and sees eating animals, reared humanely, as a key part of our diet. Ondine is managing director of Voiceless, the animal protection institute. Her latest book “Vegan Living” is out now.
Your hosts are Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman,
You can find Emile at:
www.linkedin.com/in/emile-sherman-201399213
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You can find Lloyd at:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/lloydvogelman
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An Introduction to Principle of Charity and its hosts, Lloyd Vogelman and Emile Sherman.