The Subtle Art of Not Yelling: Recent Episodes

Miles Hanson and Bill Small

A bi-weekly podcast for creatives about the creative process. Learn how to finish what you start, ship your work, and build a business without yelling.

Navigating the Financial Landscape as a Creative with Hannah Cole (Artist, Tax pro, and Founder of Sunlight Tax).

Most creative brains aren’t skilled at taxes and accounting. Taxes often feel confusing, scary, and overwhelming, but they don’t have to. In the episode, we’ll share insights and advice for creatives on managing their finances and taxes.

Hannah Cole, founder of Sunlight Tax, is a tax expert who specializes in working with creative businesses and mission-driven solopreneurs. A long-time working artist herself, she’s helped tens of thousands of self-employed people skill up with accessible tax and money education, through her Money Bootcamp program, speaking engagements from Florida to Alaska, and on the Sunlight podcast.

Hannah is great at teaching taxes because she’s messed it all up, and been in the ‘bad place.’ She doesn't teach from a place of superiority or judgment, but from a place of understanding.

We discuss the importance of tax education for creative professionals. Hannah shares her journey of transitioning from being an artist to starting her own tax business. She highlights the myths and stumbling blocks that artists and freelancers often face when it comes to money.

Hannah also discusses the challenges of finding balance and setting boundaries between her artistic and accounting pursuits.

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sunlighttax.com

sunlighttax.com/podcast

@sunlighttax

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Timestamps

2:57 The Need for Tax Education

6:05 The Challenges of Perfectionism

9:11 Transitioning from Artist to Accountant

12:09 Starting Sunlight Tax

16:35 Myths and Stumbling Blocks Around Money

19:36 The Importance of Taxes and Empathy

25:55 Growing Sunlight Tax

28:29 Overcoming Imposter Syndrome

31:07 Finding Balance and Setting Boundaries

37:51 Honoring the Season and Focusing on the Present

39:33 The Usefulness of Tax Software for Freelancers

42:23 Separate Bank Account for Business Expenses

44:14 Paying Yourself as a Freelancer

45:09 Double Entry Bookkeeping and Equity

48:31 Finding Help with Taxes and Financial Management

52:29 Hannah's Introverted-Extroverted Nature

53:13 Hannah's Art and Websites

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The Subtle art of not yelling....at yourself.

The voices in our head can get really loud. There's no shortage of opportunities for the internal voices to share unsolicited thoughts.

Where does the voice come from? Why does it get so loud? How does it impact your life and your work?

We share our experience with the voices and how we've managed to turn the yelling into a whisper - most of the time - so we don't get derailed.---

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Listen to this conversation when you feel stagnant. We’re joined by Devonte Lemonte, an artist, creative entrepreneur, and founder of Aspirio, a platform that connects brands and music creators.

Devonte provides a refreshing look inside what it actually takes to get what you want and build something meaningful.

We discuss the challenges of building a business, creating selflessly, the need to question traditional narratives and the importance of having a process. He emphasizes the power of data structure, removing emotion from decision-making, creative constraints, and the value of collaboration.

Timestamps:

02:23 The Premise of 'The Subtle Art of Not Yelling'

08:22 Building Aspirio

19:36 Think Mogul: A Creator and Brand Accelerator

27:12 The Acquisition and Rebuilding

30:06 Democratizing Access to Infrastructure

36:11 The Starving Artist Myth

41:00 Questioning the Narrative and Capitalism

46:26 Choosing the Business Route

46:54 Codifying the Process

47:23 The Think Mogul Process

53:35 Creating Selflessly

55:22 The Art of Not Yelling

58:36 Paving Your Own Path

01:00:16 Data Structure and Removing Emotion

01:00:45 Creating Selflessly and Collaboration

01:06:08 Not Accepting Trade-Offs

01:07:03 The Power of Constraints

01:09:12 Shut Up Right Now and Get to Work

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By now, you likely understand that you can’t do this alone.

Collaborating with others is crucial, but what exactly makes up a great collaboration?

What should you look for and how do you go about finding them?

We’ll share what we’ve found to be the 5 Keys to successful collaboration and a few “red flags” that you can spot in the beginning to save yourself a ton of time and energy down the road.

Connecting with and collaborating the right people can change your business, career, and life…do it right!

Chapters

01:14 The Importance of Choosing the Right Collaborator

07:40 Geeking Out and Complementary Skills

08:17 Interpersonal Connection and Shared Values

10:22 Keys to Collaboration

11:30 Finding the Right Collaborators

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Gordon Choate, the 'Brand Obsessionist' and Founder of Noble Goat Design Co., specializing in brand strategy and crafting meaningful brand experiences for his clients.

We get to take a look at his non-linear journey in the design industry, the importance of strategy, his experience with building a business and getting clients, and how he combats imposter syndrome and the inner voice.

We explore alternative marketing strategies, old-school methods like flyers and mailers, and creating a brand that goes beyond design. Lastly, Gordon reflects on introversion and the importance of finding a balance between solitude and social.

3:00 Brand Obsessionist

08:00 Navigating Imposter Syndrome

21:00 The Importance of Brand Strategy

29:00 The Process of Branding

34:00 The Power of Visual Branding

37:07 Challenges of Building a Business

40:24 Marketing and Getting Clients

44:47 Exploring Alternative Marketing Strategies

48:38 Building an Agency and Brand

53:53 Balancing Introversion and Extroversion

Connect with Gordon:

www.noblegoatdesign.com

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In part 1, we talked about knowing what you want. In part 2, we dissect structure and how to use it to get what you want.

In this episode, we'll introduce you to the idea of playing big and thinking small and how you can use it to accomplish your next big goal while avoiding overwhelm.

We cover:

The Challenge of Overwhelming Goals
The Importance of Clarity and Structure
What does it mean to play big
The Comfort of Playing Small
The Power of Thinking Small
Putting Actions in Your Calendar
Navigating "thought Traffic Jams"

This podcast is your weekly Creative Companion helping you master the inner game, finish what you start, ship your work, and build a brand without yelling; because it’s not the thunder that grows flowers, but the rain.

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The Fresh Princess of Email Marketing is back!

Liz Wilcox is an Email Strategist and Keynote Speaker showing small businesses how to build online relationships, package up their “magic” and turn it into emails that people want to read and, most importantly, purchase from.

Oh…and she’s on the Survivor now, so let’s talk about that! (Season 46)

If you’re overwhelmed by all the noise out there around marketing, email marketing, and storytelling…this convo will ease your pain as she gives her three simple keys to effective marketing.

Liz also talks about the growth of her $9 email marketing membership and how she’s gone from 900 members on her last appearance (October 2021) to now over 4,000 members and 1,000+ affiliates.

We cover:

Keeping things super simple
Blindly following trends
Chasing external measures of success
Building genuine connections with customers
The hype around storytelling
Staying top of mind through consistent communication
The three keys to effective marketing
Being relatable

Connect with Liz:

https://www.instagram.com/thelizwilcox/

Liz’s $9 Email Marketing Membership (Affiliate link)

Oh and Survivor Season 46 (yes Liz is on it) may be the most entertaining thing I’ve ever watched. Do yourself a favor and tune in!

TLDR: If you’re overwhelmed by all the noise out there around marketing, email marketing, and storytelling…this convo will ease your pain as she gives her three simple keys to effective marketing.

This podcast is your weekly Creative Companion helping you master the inner game, finish what you start, ship your work, and build a brand without yelling; because it’s not the thunder that grows flowers, but the rain.

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Are you on the offense or defense?

In this episode, we reflect on their previous episode with dream guest, Chris Do.

Some of the things we discuss:

The importance of building relationships
Creative confidence
Developing a process
Creating art vs. content for more fulfilling work
Mental chatter

We also explore the balance between offense and defense in creative work and what keeps us stuck vs. propelling ahead.

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00:33 Discussion about Chris Do

5:04 Building Relationships

6:18 Knowing Your Strengths & Delegating

7:16 Confidence and Having a Process

09:22 Focusing on Relationships, Confidence, and Process

11:16 Balancing Offense and Defense

13:01 Art vs Content

Build relationships, be confident, find your process and go make something.

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Chris Do is a loud introvert, an Emmy award-winning designer and director, CEO and founder of The Futur™ — an online education platform on a mission to help 1 billion people make a living doing what they love.

Chris Do has over 23 years of experience in brand design, strategy, and consultancy, and has worked with brands like Sony, Nike, Google, and Audi.

He’s built a large audience and shares incredible insights around sales, negotiations, value based pricing, mindset, branding, graphic & motion design, social media marketing, entrepreneurship, business management, and client relations.

In this conversation, we get to take a look behind the curtain of his incredible success, and ask him some questions about topics that aren’t talked about as much.

Chris also delves into the mental game, overcoming the inner critical voice, and where confidence comes from. We discuss the importance of networking and building relationships. He shares his approach to self-actualization and finding inner peace.

This episode is packed with invaluable insights for creatives. Please enjoy!

We discuss

Networking and relationships building
The importance of a creative process
Content vs. Art
The “formula”
Amateur vs. professional problem solving
Understanding and regulating internal dialogue
The Impact of Teaching
The power of introversion done right
And more…

Connect with Chris

https://thefutur.com/

Chapters

Introduction and Trip to Vietnam
Choosing a Design Career
Starting a Design Company
Transitioning to a Team
The Importance of Networking
The Mission of The Futur
Content vs Art
The Process of Creating Content
The Impact of Teaching
Understanding the Creative Process
The Power of Creative Formulas
The Mental Game and Overcoming Internal Dialogue
Finding Peace and Self-Awareness
Teaching and Impacting Others
The Journey of Self-Actualization
The Introverted Extrovert

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In part one, we talked about knowing what you want. In this episode (part 2) we dissect structure and how to use it to get what you want.

This podcast is your weekly Creative Companion helping you master the inner game, finish what you start, ship your work, and build a brand without yelling; because it’s not the thunder that grows flowers, but the rain.

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Your Core Brilliance is That Thing under everything else about you. It's a really helpful piece of information, so Jan is on a mission to make knowing it accessible to everyone.

Meet Jan Black, a seasoned creative powerhouse who's moved through a vibrant career in writing, poetry, art, teaching, speaking, composing, and branding.

While her books have sold nearly a million copies, some of her finest writing has been for the eyes of a very few. Her career has been a series of yeses to projects in fields where she had no experience but a decent amount of impact. She's all about the soul of things, yet unless it works on the street, she's not satisfied. She was building brands long before she called it that.

The process of defining people's Core Brilliance and building it out into their work has held her attention for over twenty years. Today, her attention has turned to a project called ‘Only While I'm Human’ that enriches your turn at being human. She sees us all as The Darlings of What Will Be and devotes herself to creating enrichments for us as we take our turn at being human. First on the roster of enrichments? Core Brilliance, of course.

“Only while I’m human can I, so I do.”

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We journey through…

Understanding Core Brilliance
Miles' Core Brilliance example
Jan's Journey and Lessons Learned
Lessons from Failure and Hiring the Right People
Surrender experiment
Saying Yes and Saying No
Trusting Yourself and Energetic Posturing
How to take up space
Embracing the Joy of Sharing with Others
Guest pass vs. full access on life
Branding Practice
Getting clear on the soul then taking it to the Street

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Connect with Jan:

https://www.onlywhileimhuman.com/

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To celebrate 100 episodes of our podcast, we're opening up the box for all of February. Join for free, try it out, no credit card required, no pressure, just coworking :) Come see what happens on the other side of finished. Use code '100' at checkout.

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If you don't know what you want...you won't get it.

In this first part of a 3 part series, we discuss setting yourself up for success and why knowing what you want can feel so challenging. We don't talk about goals or resolutions...:)

Chapters

0:00 - Transitioning from a Break

1:17 - Reflecting on Transitions

3:03 - The Power of Intentions

5:15 - Being Clear About What You Want

6:15 - Taking Action on What You Want

8:05 - The Challenge of Knowing What You Want

9:14 - The Importance of Specificity

10:20 - Finding a Recipe for Success

11:10 - Leaving Room for Magic

13:16 - Defining Success

14:07 - Moving Beyond Numbers

15:50 - The Feeling of Success

16:28 - Transitioning into the New Year

17:26 - What Do You Want?

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In 2018, Austin started a Creative Agency with little knowledge and no idea how he was going to do it. Today, he’s scaled to multiple 7 figures with a great team and is now focusing on AgencyU, helping creative agency owners break free from the agency grind and get to $50K-$100K/mo, by going from operator to orchestrator.In this conversation, Miles, Bill and Austin discuss Austin's journey from real estate to building his agency. They explore the importance of personal branding and consistency in content creation, as well as the challenges of scaling a creative agency.They talk about Austin’s sales approach, mindset, as well as his passion for endurance sports and the mental and physical benefits they bring.--We discuss:- Austin's agency, Brantegic and how he grew- Hiring & building a team- Creating predictability- Scaling: Delegatable - profitable - repeatable- Getting everyone on the same page- How to grow your creative agency- Transcending ‘Jack of all trades’- Creating content / social strategy- Discipline, his morning routine & waking up early- Being an endurance athlete- Separating your identity from work- What he listens to while running & some of his favorite podcasts--Connect with Austin- ⁠www.agencyu.co⁠- instagram.com/austinrschneider--Chapters00:00 – Introduction and Background1:28 – Transition from Real Estate to Building a Creative Agency4:18 – Building a Personal Brand and Posting Strategy6:10 – Consistency and Overcoming Insecurities in Content Creation8:37 – Transitioning from Jack of All Trades10:23 – Challenges of Growing an Agency15:02 – Scaling Creative and Defining Creative Vision20:02 – Sales Process and Retainers23:47 – Balancing Projects34:53 – AgencyU: Ideal Students and Offerings37:20 – Introversion and Sales38:03 – Sales Approach and Mindset39:28 – Future Ambitions41:09 – Hobbies and Podcasts43:10 – Training for Triathlons46:56 – Separating Identity from Work--This podcast is your weekly Creative Companion helping you master the inner game, finish what you start, ship your work, and build a brand without yelling; because it’s not the thunder that grows flowers, but the rain.Support & ConnectPodcast website: ⁠subtleartofnotyelling.com“It’s such a weird thing to be an online entrepreneur. It can be super lonely. The Box Gives rhythm to my weeks vs. every day being a blur.” – Amanda Hilton (The Simply Well)⁠Join⁠ theboxcommunity.com - Where projects get finished.

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Feel like you’re wasting time?

Feeling like giving up?

Is your website not converting sales?

Is your marketing strategy failing you?

Are you failing your marketing strategy?

Nothing happens without this one simple thing.

If you needs clients, need work, need collaborators, need support, need to get out of your own way or make more money, the solution is in this episode.

This podcast is your weekly Creative Companion helping you master the inner game, finish what you start, ship your work, and build a brand without yelling; because it’s not the thunder that grows flowers, but the rain.

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AI is being throw around everywhere lately. It can be overwhelming. Honestly, we're a bit sick of hearing about it. It often leaves us feeling behind or stressed about our hard-earned skills becoming obsolete.

Today, we talk to Peter Bittner, an award-winning multimedia journalist and media strategist, who's work has been featured in The New York Times, CNN, and other major outlets.

A Fulbright Scholar and UC Berkeley lecturer in new media, he's passionate about learning, utilizing, and teaching the latest tech tools for powerful storytelling. Through The Upgrade, Peter offers a free newsletter & podcast, AI courses for storytellers, and AI consulting services.

It was a breath of fresh air hearing his experience and perspective on how to align ourselves with AI responsibly without dampening human creativity and experience.

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We discuss:

AI for storytelling
The downsides of content scaling using AI
AI tools that are part of the narrative arsenal for professionals
Not letting AI overwhelm you
Building your own AI tools
The Upgrade — his AI newsletter
Emerging tools that Peter is most excited about
Biggest and most relevant changes that AI is causing and how to evolve
The economic upsides of AI
What questions we should be asking

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Connect with Peter

theupgrade.ai
peterbittner.com

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The Holidays are great, but they are also really weird....especially if you're a creator or entrepreneur.

We've all made collective agreement to slow down and recoup for a bit.

But sometimes we're actually pulled towards using the extra down time to get ahead.

How do we best navigate this?

Do we hunker down and get some work done? Or do we take the foot off the gas and slow down?

Spoiler alert...it depends...

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This podcast is your weekly creative companion helping you master the inner game, finish what you start, ship your work, and build a brand without yelling; because it’s not the thunder that grows flowers, but the rain.

In today's episode, we get to connect with Abigail Morrison, a Wisconsin-based genre and young adult author with over a decade of writing experience. She loves genre-fusing stories that feature grace and redemption, ask questions (without necessarily answering them), and point towards possibility.

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We discuss:

Aggressively defending your time
Taking your work seriously
Writing consistently
Proving it to yourself
Creative habits
Finding Inspiration in Science Fiction & Fantasy
Finding the edge of your skills and overcoming the gap
A healthy relationship with social media
The benefits of the timer
Writing a newsletter
Self publishing a book

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Connect with Abigail

Website: amorrisonbooks.com

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Is it time to think bigger?

Maybe you need to rethink the way you're doing your work?

Maybe there's a a way to create more (way more) leverage.

You don't have to do it all by yourself...and you probably shouldn't.

Let's explore.

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Our guest today is a Strategy Consultant, Community Builder, and Mentor.

Jan founded the Inner Compass Academy to help people navigate the often confusing world of personal growth.

This online community connects you more deeply with yourself, with others, and with your authentic life path.--

We discuss:

The power of journaling
What to do when you’re overwhelmed
Not being a transformation junkie
Building a community
The dangerous side of self development
Building something slowly (without rushing it)
Dealing with doubt

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Connect with Jan + check out his offerings:

Website: ⁠https://www.innercompass.academy/⁠

Insta: ⁠https://www.instagram.com/innercompass.academy/⁠

The Life Compass: ⁠https://innercompass.gumroad.com/l/thelifecompass⁠

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Are you organized? Your home, your workspace, your desktop, your folders, your tasks, your calendar... It turns out, you're a product of your environment, both the physical and the digital.

In this episode, we dive deep into the chaos that can ensue when we let our lives become cluttered, disorganized, and overwhelming. From missed meetings to neglected tasks and abandoned goals, we all experience the fallout of disorganization.

But fear not! We explore the power of creating your own organized system (and second brain) to clear the clutter and create the mental space you need.

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We're joined by intellectually curious digital marketer, Michael Grasewicz who's had an impressive career in marketing ecommerce brands.

From managing millions of advertising dollars at 24; to getting his creative MBA and mastering the relationship between the two.

His career includes leading e-commerce growth at brands like Taylor Stitch, 686, and Taft as well as directing brand at Island (a cannabis company).

Today he spends his time playing tennis, surfing, and connecting good people with good waves as the Head of Growth at a disruptor in the travel space called Thermal.

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We discuss:

The tangible and not-so-tangible ways of measuring marketing success.
The Inner Game of Tennis, business, and life.
Doing some good in the world
Harmonizing between data and creative
Letting go and riding the wave of life (+ learning to listen for the signs)
Doing great work with great people
Learning through experience

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This brief conversation is a look under the hood of why you can't seem to stay consistent and a simple reframe to change that.

You likely have stuff you want to stick with:

Weekly email newsletter
Weekly social posts
Weekly youtube videos
Weekly podcast
Showing up for a community
Outreach / sales
Playing the guitar
Writing
Etc..

In 2 years, when you look up, are you going to say, "I wish I did that consistently for the past 2 years..." or are you going to reap the many benefits of sticking to something for that long.

Maybe you need to look a little deeper.

In this ep, we'll give you a few tips to master the inner game of creating a consistent habit. There's one big thing that you may be overlooking.--

Bill and I (Miles) want to hear from you! We see you listening, but we want to meet you!

One of the best ways to do this is by joining the Box Community. Now, you can join free for 7 days (that's 2 free coworking calls) no card required!

You'll be shocked at how much you finish.

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I met Craig on the golf course, we became friends, he told me about his company - [P]rehab, I told him about my lower back pain, he showed me the app, and now my lower back pain is gone...

[P]rehab; a digital physical therapy company with 1+ Million followers across social media, is redefining how physical therapy is accessed so people can take a proactive approach to their health with easy-to-follow physical therapy & injury prevention exercises.

Dr. Craig Lindell PT, DPT, CSCS -- Therapist & global clinical educator -- Co-founded [P]rehab with 3 of his friends (the Prehab Guys) in PT school.

Craig lives & practices in Los Angeles and has a wide array of experience as a PT, from working with various neurological conditions, ultra-endurance athletes, and collegiate/professional athletes across the Big Five in North American sports, to launching a start-up PT business as a student.

Today Craig manages the customer experience at [P]rehab overseeing product fulfillment, all digital content creation, and multi-channel publication that reaches millions of people on a weekly basis.

They didn't build this incredibly successful business over night and there are a few super simple things they did that may shock you.

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We also discuss...

Actually listening to your business
1/2 a million followers by posting every day for a 1.5 yrs
Product development (the messy process)
Engagement, gratitude, and connection
Don't hate the game, play the game
Building a team
And more...

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https://theprehabguys.com/

https://www.instagram.com/theprehabguys/

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Unless you walk around your house naked for 24 hours, you’ll never be 100% caught up on laundry.

There’s always something to work on.

Work to do list
Business to do list
House to do list
Family to do list
Health to do list
Your ‘to do list’ to do list

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Ahhhh, to be a human. Do we ever actually get to the end of the list?

There’s a lot to unpack here. Let’s explore.--

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"They want the fast route, I want the for-sure route."

I was fascinated by a conversation I heard Ben having on another podcast and had to have him on. Ben has worked with Cole Gordon's sales team, Alex Becker and Hyros, as well as Eli Wilde (Tony Robbins top salesman who sold over 100 million himself).

Currently, Ben is helping closers and entrepreneurs sell better by becoming a more well rounded person, creating a high performance lifestyle so they can get high performance results. We talk about productivity, energy, sales, and swords with superhuman salesman, Ben Byrne.

This ep will be super interesting and valuable for you if: You're an introvert who wants to tap into your extroverted side, embrace selling, make more money, build a healthy routine, and become someone that demands respect (from yourself and others).

We also discuss:

Why he wakes up at 2:40 AM every morning (you read that right)
Routines, consistency, and discipline
Power of a check list
Monotasking
Eliminating decisions
Keeping it simple
Being social on social media
Spirituality & energy
Content / storytelling / humor
Why IG stories are so powerful and simple
Getting out of your head

Connect with Ben on Instagram.--

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Sometimes 'lightning' strikes, but only if you're willing to stand in the rain.

Let's talk lighting - creativity spilling out of you vs having to dig deep to find it.

This ep is a must listen if...

You've lost creative momentum
You struggle with imposter syndrome, perfectionism, etc.
You're waiting for inspiration
You feel old

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Neil Gaiman's main rule for writing is: “You can sit here and write or you can sit here and do nothing, but you can’t sit here and do anything else.”

The subtle art of structure.

Do you have it? Do you need it? Are you good at it?

What happens if you remove all structure?

If you're a listener, you're likely a little less structured by default. This can eat you alive if you let it.

Instead, create a box. A simple container you can work in that allows you to take focused action and finish what you start.

We stumbled across this concept in an earlier episode, which led to the birth of theboxcommunity.com.

Now, we get more done in the box than anywhere else.

Enjoy this episode and come check out theboxcommunity.com

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If it was easy, everyone would be walking around with six-packs.

What does it mean to fight and why is it so important? Can you get where you want without fighting for it? And where does discipline, structure, and accountability fit in?

Ali is a successful entrepreneur, speaker, coach and MMA fighter.

I (Miles) am good friends with Ali and am in fact partnering with him on his latest venture, Fighter Bodies, which is the only fitness program with active MMA fighters as your coach, who are also certification in personal training and nutrition. Built by fighters for fight fans.

--Some of what we cover:

His unique meditation practice
His journey into MMA
His journey into entrepreneurship
How he had the idea for Fighter Bodies, his current focus
Addictions and how he overcomes them
The important role of discipline
His experience in the Cannabis industry
From extremely shy to leader of a Toast Masters group
How to stop the cycle of letting yourself down
The important of masculinity

Connect with Ali

Instagram: @aliabouzalam
Fighterbodies.com

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Bill and Miles reflect on 2 years and examine a few of their most listened to episodes, most interesting guests, and and what lies ahead.

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Janis Ozolins has made a name for himself by explaining ideas visually. His work has reached millions, leading to collaborations with notable entrepreneurs and creators such as Steven Bartlett, Matt D’Avella, Dharmesh Shah, and others.

After struggling with the transition for over four years, Janis successfully shifted from a 9-to-5 corporate role to becoming a profitable creative living on his own terms.

Janis has some of the coolest visuals on the internet and has built a course based on the questions his audiences asks.

If you're trying to "figure out" this whole online business thingy, this conversation sheds light on what it actually takes. It doesn't have to be hard or complicated, but it probably won't happen overnight. Are you willing to wait?

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Some of what we cover with Janis:

The messy process
The "secret" to growing and monetizing an audience
Making failure
Visual communication
The iteration process
A healthy dose of perfection
How social media is changing
Building a following of 130k+
Developing your own version of consistency
The importance of an email list

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Website: ozolinsjanis.com

What Janis is doing now: ozolinsjanis.com/now

Explain Ideas Visually Course & Community: ozolinsjanis.com/course

The Ideas newsletter by Janis: ozolinsjanis.com/newsletter

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Bill calls Miles a "picky b*tch" and Miles defends his pickiness.

There's a never-ending wrestling match between "Don't post unless you have something of value" vs. "just post something!"

Quality and volume.

How much pickiness is good.

Does being picky get in your way or is a lack of pickiness hurting your cause?

Where's the line?

Let's explore.

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Are you creative? Let's find out.

Natalie Cramer is a creativity coach helping adults overcome life's challenges and reconnect with themselves through creative play. Playing guitar and writing original songs are her primary outlets for processing and moving through emotions. Creativity has always been Natalie's safe space and now she gets to share the magic of imagination and play with others through 1:1 coaching and events- both in-person and online.

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We meander through...

Seeing things in a new way
Creativity as the tool for personal growth
Coaching vs. therapy
Play and it's crucial role in your life
When humans start to lose their individualism (4th grade)
Jumping off the hamster wheel of life
Why comparison is so bad
The importance of failure
Taking time to be with yourself

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Connect with Natalie:

Instagram: @cramer.creations

Facebook: @cramer.creations

Website: cramercreations.com

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When you make work, work for you, you do better work.

We're sold on "the best way to do xyz" all day long.

Everyone wants you to do things their way, and they all have overwhelming evidence to support their argument.

The thing is, they all work, but you need to find out which works for you.

What kind of work, where you work, who you work with, solo vs. team, products vs. service, high vs. low ticket, 1-1 vs. group, to scale or not to scale, and so on.

Enjoy this honest conversation about making work, work for YOU.

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If you're a jaded marketer or completely new to marketing, this episode is a short masterclass on real marketing for real people.

With over 20 years of experience in branding, web design, graphic design, and social media, Sandra helps heart-centered entrepreneurs and business owners bring their vision to life and reach the audience they can serve best.

Sandra is on a mission to change how clients experience branding and marketing.

The marketing and online business world is insanely noisy and overwhelming. Marketers selling marketing to other marketers so they can sell their marketing to other marketers...

Strategies, platforms, ads, funnels, content...it's nauseating. Especially if you're choosing the DIY path.

This conversation was a breath of fresh marketing air.

Enjoy!

A few interesting topics we cover:

How long until you become an "expert"
Getting work & learning how to do it on the fly
Fix your pricing problems (know your worth)
Creating mock projects to build a portfolio (why not!)
What people get wrong about marketing
Bro marketing and why it doesn't work
Her bada** morning routine

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Connect with Sandra: bellastrega.co

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Do you know your why?

Do you obsess over finding it, perfecting it, believing it, and sticking to it?

What if you're focusing on the wrong thing.

What if there's a much easier way.

Maybe you need to stop looking for your why.

This ep may just set you free...

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Mentioned in the ep: sunyi.co

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"I love the idea of someone looking out their window at 5am during a snowstorm to see me on mile 10."

Myles Biggs returns to talk about how he continues to push the boundaries of his potential and put the principles of "Unseen Work" to use.

Myles Biggs is a lot of things…an author, storyteller, marketer, coach, father, podcaster. But the thing that stands out to me over the past 5 years of knowing Myles, is his incredible ability to commit to something (a habit, a physical challenge, cutting out cookies) and take consistent action over time to make it a reality - something most people struggle with.

How often do you set a goal or commit to a new habit only to quit a few days later? It's all about small daily actions that lead to bigger things over time.

If you're a fan of David Goggins, long distance running, or find yourself short on discipline, this episode is for you.

"I've chosen to do all of these hard things, which makes it that much easier to handle the hard things that I don't get to choose."

Some of what we discuss:

Having something to train for vs. working out because you should
Consistency, discipline, habits, self-control
Test, learn, grow (a simple framework for decisions)
Being results oriented
Overcoming mental chatter & becoming a doer
Using AI to help you hire talent

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Connect with Myles Biggs:

mylesbiggs.com
@mylesjbiggs (IG)
Ep page

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Freedom and independence take on many different meanings for different people. We are all grateful enough to live in a world where we are mostly free. Something that didn't come free.

But even today, we don't always feel all that free.

While many of us enjoy external freedom and independence, many find themselves trapped in the chains of relentless mental chatter. Our minds have a tendency to interject with self-doubt, self-criticism, and a constant need to measure up to societal expectations. These internal chains are often constructed by a combination of societal pressures and evolutionary mechanisms.

From an early age, we are bombarded with messages of achievement, success, and fitting into predetermined molds. Society sets certain standards of accomplishment and often defines success in narrow terms, leaving little room for deviation or unconventional pursuits. Entrepreneurs and creative individuals, driven by their own visions and passions, often find themselves at odds with these societal expectations. The pressure to conform can stifle their creativity, leading to self-doubt and a constant feeling of not being "enough."

Evolutionary factors (the brain) also come into play, as our minds are wired for survival and risk aversion. The primary focus has always been on safety and survival. Our minds developed to detect and promptly avoid potential threats. However, to be happy in today's world, we'll likely need to override those biological notifications on a frequent basis. We must take some risks and embrace uncertainty at times. But the fear of failure, rejection, or financial instability keeps us within the walls of safety and predictability, which is often the most dangerous place to be.

So let us ask you, are you free?

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Amanda Rieger Green is a world-renowned psychic medium, spiritual intuitive and wellness leader.

Over the past decade, Amanda Rieger Green, MPH has consulted for thousands of clients including Fortune 500 companies, CEOs, world leaders, government officials, communities, institutions, and seekers from all walks of life looking for spiritual connection and a path forward in their personal evolution.

Amanda empowers her clients, engaging their innate abilities to create tangible, meaningful results in their daily lives.

Guided by her belief that everyone is searching for their evolving meaning and purpose, Amanda connects them to their soul’s clearest path to higher consciousness. A passionate advocate, teacher and thought leader, she’s focused on the crucial intersections of spirituality, human potential, public health, and collective evolution.

Amanda holds a B.A. in Religion from Sewanee, The University of the South and a Master’s Degree from Boston University in Public Health, with dual concentrations in Health Law, Bioethics, Human Rights and Health Services. She’s also a certified yoga instructor (200 Hour RYT) and Reconnective Healing practitioner.

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soulpathology.com

Her new podcast: Soul Sessions with Amanda Rieger Green

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The reason you can't stick with something long enough to see results is because you don't have a reason.

Without a strong reason that excites, motivates, and energizes you, you'll give up long before you see any signs up success. But coming up with the right reasons isn't always cut and dray.

Let's explore.

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Bardia Rezaei is a Sobriety and Life Coach who's helping people stop drinking so they can step into the next chapter of their lives and begin fulfilling their potential.

After struggling with his own 14 year binge drinking addiction, he finally quit drinking and began his alcohol free journey in August of 2021. After about 1 year he began building his personal brand and now has over over 250,000 followers on TikTok and a top 5% most globally shared podcast: The Stop Drinking Coach.

His content has inspired thousands of people to stop drinking alcohol and he's on a mission to help 1 million people overcome their addiction and become the best version of themselves.

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We talk...

Escaping the matrix
Why drinking is normalized
Why quitting alcohol is so hard
Optimizing your own operating system
The problem with AA
Using your story to build a brand
The power of accountability
How he got started on TikTok
How his podcast has impacted his business
Following the traction
Creating a movement

-- www.thestopdrinkingcoach.com

TikTok: @stopdrinkingcoach

Instagram: @TheStopDrinkingCoach

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You can do it, but should you? In today's world, you don't win by saying yes to all the things, you win by saying no to the wrong things.

You don't win by addition, you win by subtraction.

If you stand out in the sun for an hour, you'll get a sunburn. But focus that same energy into a tiny area and you can cut through diamonds.

We talk about:

Why you should have your very own "Board of Directors"
Writing it down first...
Waiting 24hrs before making an intentional decisions
The power of saying no
Staying freaking focused!

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Story On was founded out of a frustration for what marketing could be.

Seth realized the brands he loved were the ones telling stories, not just pushing products. Consumers want to buy from companies telling great stories but brands were stuck shouting about products.

Story On, Founded by Seth Silvers, is a premier podcasting agency based in Colorado

They've helped some of the most trusted business leaders in the world including Mark Cuban, Patrick Lencioni, Peak Solutions, and The Business Transition Strategists tell stories with their podcasts.

Today, we take a dive into storytelling, marketing, podcasting, and the inner game of building a brand without yelling.

SuccessWithStories.com

Don't start a podcast until...
The storytelling trend vs. actual storytelling
Patience patience....patience
Why most people don't make it to episode 10 of their podcast
Creating a watering hole for your brand
Staying focused and why it's so hard
Most "Trusted" vs. "Biggest" or "Best"
The tough question: What do you want?
A new way to think about business
His new podcast coming out soon

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Hey! We're Bill and Miles. Nice to meet you.

Who are you?

If you're a human, chances are you squirm your way through answering that question.

Let's talk about why.

We seem to collapse who we are and what we do into one thing.

But what you do is not who you are.

Instead, what you do should express who you are.

How can you find stuff that you can do that allows you to express who you are?

If you're too attached to a false or forced identity, you're susceptible to breaking.

When you're open and flexible, you can bend, change and evolve without spiraling into the abyss.

Let's dive in.

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Welp, we've decided to talk to Jason Moss every 20 months. He was our first ever guest, and now, our first repeat guest! Over the past 20 months, his business has exploded.

I believe every business owner, coach, and aspiring entrepreneur needs to listen to this episode. It's an honest and transparent look into the truth about business, marketing, and entrepreneurship. What's actually needed to start and grow a successful business? How long does it take? How to go from "who are you" to "I want to work with you."

If you go to Jason's website, you'll see just how simple, straightforward, and refreshing his copy is. He created a simple framework called "The Launch Method" with hundreds of success stories to back it up.

Jason Moss is a multi-six-figure business coach leading a community of over 10,000 coaches around the world. He helps early-stage coaches attract high-paying clients and get paid to transform lives. Jason lives in Denver, Colorado with his partner Kimberly, dog Boomer and cat Zola.

Jason's offering: Client Attraction Guide for listeners of this Podcast

Check out his new website! Jasonmoss.com

We talk about...

His business growing 600% in 2022
Not being in the weeds all the time
Important shifts that need to happen in your business / career
Energy management
How Jason has gone from ~10k months to 60k months in less than 20 months
It's not all rainbows / the truth behind successful business
Balancing the head and the heart
Finding your unfair advantage
Money misconceptions and working "really hard"
The E-Myth (why most small businesses don't work)
There's no one "right way" to grow an audience
Trusting yourself vs. relying on others for permission

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Stuck in an old thought pattern? It's easy to forget what the heck we're actually doing and fall into outdated ways of thinking and being.

Without conscious attention on the right things, we fall into scarcity and lack.

In this episode, Bill and I dance around the "esoteric" for a bit before landing back in a practical, science-based approach for moving towards "Ahhhhhhhh."

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"People don't care what you know until they know how much you care."Tristan Truscott, Co-owner of Satori method, is a black belt in martial arts, mindset, and marketing who's dedicated to sharing the keys for vibrant health, wellbeing and happiness.

Tristan has an incredible story.

He grew a successful dojo (largest in Austin at the time), had a back injury in 2001 that rendered him virtually immobile, explored all healing options for years, nothing worked, had a $90,000 back surgery, broke, can't move, thinking about an "exit strategy" for the first time in life, makes a deal with the Devine, finds Qigong, healed himself, builds the Satori method, learns business and marketing to reach millions.

Tristan sifted through the BS marketing ads, courses, programs, and tactics to find the real stuff. He took all the marketing courses that Bill and I loathe, but he was able to cut through the non-sense and use the components that work.

"People don't buy what you do buy why you do it."

Learn more at ⁠satorimethod.com⁠

We cover:

What really matters in marketing
How Facebook live changed everything for him
Human connection in marketing
Going from a white belt to a black belt in marketing
How to know and speak to your true audience
Energy optimization
The power of Qi Gong + an easy way to get started
Taking care of your body
Energy irrigation / finding your blockages

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If you're like us, you can get obsessed with "tools."

A project management tool
A community tool
A website builder
An email software
A design tool
Accounting
Automation
Copywriting
An app
An AI tool
And on and on an on...

But you're doing it wrong. A tool won't solve your problems.

It feels nice to look at a cool tool with a bunch of bells and whistles and try to fit your business into it's features.

Before you know it, you've completely wandered away from your original goal.

In this episode, we discuss this phenomenon and share what's actually important for finding and using the right tools in your business.

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"You have the most powerful reality creation tool built right into you, but most people sit around worrying about things."

Can we prove that "manifestation" and the "Law of attraction" are scientifically and biologically real?

This conversation will change the way you look at how you create your own reality.

Bob Doyle is well-known for his contribution to the film and book “The Secret”, as a law of attraction expert and coach. He's an author, speaker, musician, creator, and a Brain Rewiring Coach.

He has been teaching these principles through programs, live events, podcasts, livestreams, coaching, writing, and even virtual reality, since 1998.

He is driven by his passion for creative self-expression and his work is heavily focused on helping people decide who they want to be and how they want to express themselves.

Recently, Bob’s attention has shifted from the metaphysical aspects of the Law of Attraction or “reality creation” process, to a more grounded and biological look at what controls our experiences… our brain.

Bob's website: www.meetbobdoyle.com

We Talk...

Figuring out who YOU actually are
Dancing with the creator
Reality creating
The brain and it's true power
The early years of online marketing
Growing an email list to 210,000, then losing most of them.
Personal branding and why people get it wrong
Rewiring your brain (biological manifestation)
AI (animation, photos, voice, art)
Nonattachment
Visualization and energetic alignment
Being stuck in the wrong identity
The value of a coach

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It doesn't take long to ruin a reputation or kill trust. But there are also some pretty simple things we can do to stand out and show our clients and customers that we care.

As we enter an Artificial world, the human touch is more important and more powerful than ever.

How can we build trust, show we care, and grow our brand by delivering a "knock your socks off experience?"

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Tools we mentioned:

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Amanda makes personal development simple so we can prioritize inner + outer wellbeing in the day-to-day.

She has a Master’s Degree in Clinical Psychology and a certification from the Spirituality Mind-Body Institute at Columbia University, as well as Bachelor’s Degrees in Education and Psychology.

She’s merged her interests in Personal Development and Community Care to form The Simply Well — exploring the intersections between Personal Development (growing in the ways that are meaningful to you) and Community Care (supporting the earth and your local and global neighbors) — to make life and the world just a little bit better.

She’s also a licensed teacher, a reiki practitioner, and Registered Yoga Teacher.

Amanda’s website: www.thesimplywell.com

IG: @amandasimplywell

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Timestamps:

[1:53] Amanda’s journey to becoming a clinical psychologist.

[5:26] How personal development has evolved and its importance.

[7:35] Discussion on the inward journey, its importance, and how it has evolved over time.

[9:19] Amanda discusses her journey towards developing awareness of her emotions and how it has evolved into a practice of holding her inner experience while interacting with the outside world.

[11:34] The Role of Science in Supporting Inner Experience. Amanda talks about how research supports the impact of practices like awareness on wellbeing and how it can be translated into academic language to be more widely accepted.

[17:26] Tying Goals to Inner Desires.

[23:51] Her journey to creating her business, The Simply Well.

[28:36] The different views on productivity and how the balance.

[31:56] Marketing and Generosity.

[36:17] Instagram strategy, content marketing and how Amanda resonates with her audience.

[37:14] Developing visuals for Instagram, where she gets inspiration, and how she catalogs her ideas.

[38:46] Amanda’s branding and marketing strategy with a focus on how it fits her energy and personality, and how it resonates with her audience.

[41:42] Figuring out how to package and sell her products, and discusses her two primary products: an online course on goal setting and a workshop on non-toxic productivity.

[47:00] Inner drive to sustain personal development.

[49:21] Daily habits and practices that keep her going.

[52:57] Balancing Growth and Emotional Hygiene.

[54:45] Exploring instruments for meditative practice.

[57:08] Closing remarks and thank you

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The greatest marketers, artists, and content creators make you feel something.

They connect.

Are you creating content or connection?

How can you use your ideas, experiences, tools, and tips to not only get someone’s attention, but actually connect.

Timestamps

Finding the right content [1:49]
Having conversations that make a difference. Where can we do that on the internet?

The power of connection [3:58]
Content that connects vs. content that doesn’t.

Connecting through stories [4:46]
Connect with your audience through storytelling and sharing the nuances and the emotions, rather than overwhelming them with strategies and tactics.

The juicy stuff [5:39]
Feeling overwhelmed by consuming content and why we prefer listening to people’s stories that evoke emotions rather than being told what to do.

David Goggin’s book [7:04]
How David Goggin’s book, which tells his story, connected with them and changed their life, highlighting the power of storytelling.

Content and connection [9:38]
The best content is one that combines both content and connection, and how the greatest commercials are the ones that make you feel something.

Make art not content [10:45]
Creating art that connects with people, rather than just creating content for the sake of growing a business or making money.

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Today’s guest built and sold a 28 million dollar digital marketing agency and has been using Generative AI for business, marketing, and creativity since 2019.

He’s currently exploring how AI can enhance our creativity, marketing, and writing.

Join us for a mind bending conversation about everything from marketing to the nature of reality.

Some of what we cover:

Building a business without building an audience
Doing excellent work
Building a referral system
Artificial intelligence (past, future, present)
Discomfort & skill growth
Copywriting
How to think about AI
Powerful ChatGPT Prompts
Prompt mistakes most people make
A spiritual / trippy perspective on AI
Beauty & The nature of reality

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For everything Sam does: samueljwoods.com
For AI and creativity, with philosophy involved: bionicwriter.com
For AI and all things online marketing: bionicmarketing.io

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Timestamps

[1:01] Introduction and Background

[3:30] Building Business Through Referrals

[17:28] Premium Product Strategy

[22:43] Copywriting and Conversion Rate Optimization

[23:45] Creativity in Conversion Rate Optimization

[25:41] Motivation for Writing and Copywriting

[26:32] Creativity and Discomfort

[28:10] Using AI for Copywriting

[32:50] AI Tools for Creativity

[33:43] The Value of Specific Use Cases

[35:29] Prompt Engineering and Refining

[43:49] Using Prompts as a Conversation Partner

[45:06] Analyzing Text with Language Models

[46:01] Text Analysis & AI language models

[48:12] Machine Learning

[52:47] Concerns with Machine Learning

[53:02] The Ethics of AI

[54:28] What is Human Sentience

[55:45] The Nature of Reality, Beauty and sign off.

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Writers become great, not by reading, but by writing...a lot.

Musicians, coaches, artists, and other creators become good at their craft by doing their craft.

Yep. It's that simple.

You know this, but are you embodying it?

Is this ep the reminder you needed?

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Today, we sit down with renowned copywriter, polaroid camera enthusiast, and founder of verygoodcopy.com, Eddie Shleyner.

His newsletter, VeryGoodCopy, is now growing ~100 subscribers a day with over 54,000 subscribers. He created 100s of free, addictive articles, interviews & courses about copywriting & creativity.

In 2022, he won HackerNoon’s “Email Newsletter of the Year” award. A few weeks later, he was voted a LinkedIn “Top Voice” in Marketing & Advertising.

Eddie is cool, but what we think is cooler than all his accolades, is his energy. He's a perfect example of "Not Yelling." He's a chill, down to earth, introverted new father who's found a way to make an awesome living doing what he loves. I think you're gonna love this ep.

A few more cool thing about Eddie:

Former Copy Chief at G2.com
Winner: “Marketing MVP of the Year” at G2
Freelance clients include: Google, Hubspot, The Hustle, Forbes, Geico, SEMRush and many more.
He's recognized among 15 “must-follow” marketing thought leaders on LinkedIn with 75,000+ followers & 1M+ monthly content views
Email Newsletter of the Year (Nominee) by HackerNoon

Eddie, Bill, and Miles journey through:

How he got into copywriting (on accident)
How he left G2 to build his newsletter
Using LinkedIn to create a growth loop
Growing an audience (without yelling)
Nuanced creative outlets that spark new ideas
Some copywriting tips
Having kids
His new course, Transformational Landing Pages

Subscribe to his newsletter: verygoodcopy.com

Follow Eddie on LinkedIn: eshleyner

The Landing Page Course we discuss (highly recommend, it's so good!):verygoodcopy.com/vgc-masterclass

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The more creative the work is, the more you need a process.

How much time and energy are you wasting without a process?

In this episode, we’ll dive into why having a process is essential to reaching that next level and how to create your process.

No process = inconsistency & overwhelm.

Trust the process!

We cover:

How to get into momentum
Where do you already have processes
Where might you need to create a process
Creative processes
Process flexibility
Having a place to start
A process for processes

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Make your website the best salesperson in your business.

Do you ever wish your website would actually generate more business for you?

Or that when people show up to your website, they actually understand the problems you solve for them - thus booking a call with you?

Our guest today helps people do exactly that.

Todd Clarke is a copywriter and minister of clarity at 'Todd’s Got A Pen', where he helps his clients get clear, then clearly explain their business, in plain English, no jargon.

Why? Because people develop trust and buy your services when they understand you immediately, clearly, and simply.

Todd's mission: Make every client's home page the best salesperson in the company.

Todd's website: toddsgotapen.com

Todd's freebies: toddsgotapen.com/shop

A few things you'll learn if you listen:

How to put the reader first
Why your message is confusing
Storytelling + story branding
How to increase sales with your words
The role of design
The "secret" to being clear
How to create a repeatable process
How to get clients and build connections on LinkedIn
How to know when you're "done" with your message
How to be real and stand out
How to age gracefully, with energy and vibrancy

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Have you ever been talking to someone and all you're really doing is thinking about what you want to say next?

Listening CAN be a superpower. It can change your life. But most people don't know how to ACTUALLY listen.

There's level to this listening stuff...

Listening with your ears
Listening with your mind
Listening with your heart

People want to be heard. That's it.

When you're on a call with a potential prospect, they just want to be heard. Really heard.

So, how can we learn to really listen and how will that impact our life and business.

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Robbie is a leadership coach, author, and podcaster whose work focuses on creativity, coaching and leading with honor. Robbie has delivered coaching, training, and facilitation for organizations like King's College London, Moonpig, Swiss Re, Coventry City of Culture, and more. He is a regular associate of 64 Million Artists and Betterup. Robbie supports coaches to grow their businesses and impact and thrive as people while they do that, via a community for coaches and a podcast. He's the host of The Coach's Journey Podcast, author of The 12-Minute Method Series, and author of 4 books including 'How to Start When You're Stuck,' 'How to Create the Conditions For Great Work,' 'How to Keep Going When You Want to Give Up,' and 'How to Share What You’ve Made.'

We cover:

Finding work you love (that pays)
The power of coaching
Why doing wrong is better than doing nothing
The 12-Minute method
Creating conditions for great work
Detaching from the outcome and doing the practice

Robbie's website: robbieswale.com

Robbie's Podcast: thecoachsjourney.com

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The world can be overwhelming.

We’re constantly being pulled in a million directions, and it’s only going to get worse.

In a world that sells us on doing more, better, faster, and at scale; how do we keep from spiraling out of control?

So much of what we’re sold online is about planning, strategizing, and thinking. How can we avoid the dark abyss of inaction that often follows?

Half the battle is NOT doing that thing, but instead doing the same thing you've been doing, over and over.

The most valuable future skill will be focus. Most other skills won't work well without it. 90 percent of the world’s data has been created in the last two years alone and it's not slowing down.

Listen to this when you're feeling overwhelmed.

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Today's guest has dedicated himself to discovering the secrets of a well-lived life and sharing them with men who seek to go beyond the frustration, boredom and powerlessness inherent in the modern world.

He's a coach for male entrepreneurs and the author of the book, 'Aligned: The Modern Man’s Guide to Health, Wealth & Freedom.'

Cool stuff about Nic:

Nic has a third degree blackbelt in Jiu Jitsu under Roger Gracie
As a podcast host himself, he's interviewed guests such as Tim Ferris, Dorian Yates and Graham Hancock
He's been a guest on the Joe Rogan Experience and the Aubrey Marcus podcast
He's acquired some incredible wisdom through his martial arts practice, psychedelic journeys, and international adventuring.

We journey through mental jiu-jitsu, literal jiu-jitsu, gratitude, near death experience, narrowing down a wide range of skills and finding your path, meditation practice, masculine vs. feminine energy, and much more.

coachnicg.com
The Book
Instagram
Podcast

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How are those 2023 new years resolutions going?

What even is a resolution. Why do so many people completely forget their resolutions by Feb?

What works better for you:

Resolutions
Goals
Intentions
Systems
Something else?

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Is it possible to work less, earn more, and live a better life?

Our guest today is all about maximizing efficiency, performance, and impact—all while working less.

Working less isn't about anti-work. It's about creating space and time to think, feel, and live more.

Dean is the SEO manager at AppSumo as well as a writer for his own "Work less" newsletter with over 3,000 readers.

As a 2x Quora Top Writer, Dean Yeong's work has been featured on Inc, HuffPost, Observer, and many other major publications—leading to over 30 million organic views.

Life can be overwhelming, today's episode explores how you can earn more and live a better life by working less.

www.deanyeong.com

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The first mistake is being attached to the outcome.

Why are you doing this?

What's the point?

Do you change paths when you get bored?

Most people underestimate what they can do in 3 years.

In today's face-paced world, shiny object syndrome is harder to fight off.

You'll never get anywhere if you expect quick results.

In this short episode, we explore what it means to be the tortoise and why it's probably the shift you need to make.

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After helping generate 25M+ in launch revenue for the world's top coaches, consultants and course creators, Ry Schwartz stepped out of the trenches to empower the next generation of marketers to lead the next wave.

Ry is the email copywriter marketers turn to when they're launching programs or setting up evergreen funnels. You can't find him in many places online, but he may be doing some stuff here:

ryschwartz.me

iseeyouking.com

facebook.com/schwartz.ry

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Happy holidays from everyone at The Subtle Art of Not Yelling....aka, Bill and Miles.

Thanks for being a listener.

See you in 2023.

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To get what you want in life, you have to ask.

Why don't you ask?

Are you scared of the answer?

Well, you may be surprised by what happens when you start asking.

Especially inside your business.

Listen for a few ideas on how to start asking for what you want and why getting rejected is a really good thing.

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Feeling rushed? Like you need to be something by now? Like you should have it figured out?

James Martin joins us today to talk about what it actually takes to build a brand, run a business, grow a following, and create a body of work you're proud of. It’s not always a straight line and when we think we know, we likely have no idea…and that’s okay!

James has a following on Instagram of 242k. He’s figured some things out along his almost 20-year journey as a designer and business owner. He’s co-founder of Baby Giant Design Co., author of “Made by James: The Honest Guide to Creativity and Logo Design,” and now he teaches other designers how to live their best logo life through courses, coaching, and speaking.

James, born a creative, eventually developed his skills in illustration, became a teacher, then a tattoo apprentice, grew a tribe of hundreds of thousands of humans, and has now been in the graphic design world for two decades, working with the biggest and smallest companies on the planet.

James’ Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/made.by.james/

Links: https://linktr.ee/madebyjames

A few of my favorite quotes from this conversation:

“If I followed my passion at 18, I’d be a rugby-playing, alcoholic, drug-taking thug.”

“Slow and steady may not win the race, but it will finish it.”

“I think we need to stop calling it social media. It’s a marketing platform. A way to reach the world and connect.”

“Let’s do it for 2 years and see what happens.”

“Consistency. I’ve posted almost every day, for 7 years. Show the process.”

“I wouldn’t be able to do all this by myself.”

“Your creativity is tied to process and structure.”

We discuss:

How to navigate a career in design (Starting from the bottom)
Creative constraints (his box)
How he got started in design, then logos, now teaching
How he grew a following and community of over 250,000
The illusive pressures to “become” something
Generational differences in business building (long-term vs short-term)
How he manages his creative energy
Have a process, know where you are in the process
Sharing your process (the story is more important than the ending)
Hard work vs consistency
Connection’s role in business success
The Book – Made by James: The Honest Guide to Creativity and Logo Design

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There are more than 3.9 billion email users and the number is expected to hit 4.48 billion by 2024, nearly half of the world’s population. Over 80 percent of businesses use email marketing to acquire and retain customers. People love welcome emails. They enjoy an open rate of 82 percent, which is pretty high. Email marketing ROI is 4200% ($42 for every $1 spent).

Alright, enough "stats." The point is, email is one of the best ways to communicate with your audience, make sales, and grow your brand.

You own your subscribers emails, not your Instagram followers. You're in control. People scrolling through fast-paced social media platforms (TikTok, Instagram) are far less likely to give you their full attention for long enough to resonate. With email, this is far more likely.

Okay. Email is important. You should probably try it if you're not already.

But how do you start? How do you actually grow your subscribers? How do you increase open and click-through rates? How do you do it in a way to feels good?

Let's dive in.

Resources mentioned:

Sign up for Liz Wilcox's Email Marketing Membership

Phil Powis newsletter

The Hustle Newsletter

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Data - not always fun, often avoided, frequently misused, and always a critical part of business growth.

Prasanna Dhungel is managing Partner of GrowByData, which helps agencies & brand managers maximize visibility, clicks and conversion with shopper journey insights.

He shares honest insights about the entrepreneurial journey. What's worked, what hasn't, and some simple tools to staying sane, happy, and clear throughout the ride.

You'll also learn how and when to use Data to grow your business and some common mistakes to avoid. If data feels overwhelming (like it does to us), Prasanna shares in simple terms why data is so important to growing your business and where you can start.

https://growbydata.com/

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Work work work, go go go, get as much done as humanly possible, grind, hustle, and move the needle.

This works. Until it doesn't.

The reality is, we have a lot of stuff we have to get done.

Productivity is important.

But most of us do it SO WRONG.

In this episode, we'll give you a few obvious and not so obvious tools to work sustainably and feel good along the way.

Let us know what you liked most about this episode.

Email us: pod@brandthrive.co

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People call him the wizard.‌‌

Phil teaches Automated Intimacy at Empire Engineering, and is the Growth Chief at Zen Habits.‌‌‌‌

Building his one-man consulting firm to north of 6 figures/month, Phil Powis has quietly become one of the most sought after marketing wizards in the online coaching and education space; partnering with the likes of K.C. Carter (This Epic Life), Jonathan Fields (Good Life Project) and Leo Babauta of Zen Habits.

Phil and his partner Ry (upcoming episode) have deconstructed marketing, sales, and the art of conversion. They've re-engineered it in a way that is ethical, rewarding, and human. It's not the typical "marketing machine" approach that noisy, scale-obsessed marketing bros preach.

Phil's philosophy and frameworks needs to be heard.

Please enjoy this fascinating and important conversation about:

Walking into the "fog"
Trusting yourself
The future of marketing
How to automate intimacy
Coaching the conversion
Community

Phil's website: https://www.philippowis.com/

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Lost and forgotten for several months, this episode comes back from the darkness with an important reminder.

As we move through life and work, we're expected to know what we're doing. Others may assume we have it all figured out, but do we? Do we ever know what we're doing? If we "know" what we're doing have we stopped growing?

We cover:

The story we tell ourselves
Not knowing what you're doing, but doing it anyways
Falling on your face
Curiosity, exploration and growing
Finishing what you start
Sustainability
Collaboration & support

Enjoy!

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How do you take the fun creative stuff you loved doing as a kid and turn it into a business.

Leah Kirsch, an artist and clothing designer, shares the inner workings of starting a brand out of her apartment in the Bronx in 2013, closing it down, navigating drug culture, taking creative risks, and all the emotions that came with it.

Today, Leah Kirsch is a brand for the bold. Influenced by men’s streetwear and infused with an intuitive feminine touch, everything is designed with a duality in mind: sexy and strong, cool and capable, tender and tough.

This is a refreshing and much needed conversation around the messy middle of building sustainable business around something you love.

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Why is starting so easy, but the latter half seems to feel like trudging up a muddy hill in 120 degree weather? Why do we stop?

We know that good things take time. Every overnight success actually took a long time to create. Why do we think results will come right off the bat?

It’s a curse that all creatives have and must overcome. Here’s how.

let’s dive in.

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Gill Andrews (all the way from Frankfurt Germany) is a conversion copywriter and web consultant who helps small and medium businesses turn their underperforming websites into slick lead-generating machines.

When she’s not writing copy or auditing websites, she’s blogging on her website Gillandrews.com, teaching other business owners — especially those who take care of their websites themselves — how to make their websites work better.

If you ever feel like you need to have it all figured out in order to be successful, you’ll want to tune in to this fascinating conversation with Gill.

This is one of the most unique perspectives I’ve heard around copywriting, business, and the creative process.

You’ll also pick up a few useful tips about how to write your copy without sounding like everyone else.

Some things we cover…

Comparison traps
Your way vs. the right way?
Creating structure and constraints
Having a weird ritual
Trusting yourself
Professionally extroverted, personally introverted
“They all sound the same.”
SEO and sticking to one simple strategy vs. “all of them.”
Getting comfortable with selling
I’m not for everyone
Being psychologically comfortable

Follow Gill on:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/gill-andrews/

Twitter: https://twitter.com/StoriesWithGill

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Do you ever get stuck?

Maybe you want more clients.

Maybe your work isn't evolving.

Maybe you're not growing.

Or maybe you're overthinking or over planning to the point where nothing actually happens.

Listen to this episode if you want to overcome stagnation.

One thing is for sure, whatever you're doing now won't get you to the next level. Instead, you'll need to try some things.

You'll likely need to do something out of your comfort zone.

But before we even talk about any of that, what is the very first thing you can do.

Let's face it, 0 x 10 = 0 and 0 + 1 = 1.

What's that first step you can take?

Let's dive in.

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Dylan Schmidt is the creator of Digital Podcaster and founder of Podcasting Academy. He helps people of all backgrounds confidently share their message with the world.

Discover how to use the power of podcasting to grow your audience, business and life. We were lucky enough to have him poke holes in our Podcast Strategy.

We talk about all things podcasting…

Should you even start one?
How to start & grow your podcast
How to monetize (from day one)
What makes a good podcast
How to make it sustainable and fun
Top mistakes new podcasters make

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Instagram: @digitalpodcaster

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You've heard, "the only inevitable in life is change."

It's not the most exciting reminder, but it is true.

Especially when building a business, brand, or shipping creative work.

Will you let change derail you? Will it run your day?

Or, will you be able to...pivot (ugh, another overused word).

Pivot, shift, evolve, stay flexible, flow...whatever you want to call it.

It's essential.

Just look at your day today.

You probably woke up with a rough plan of how you expected the day to go, how's that going?

If not today, some day soon, life will throw you a curveball.

Plans are important, but over planning will kill all your momentum.

Let's dive in.

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Too many businesses drown in the sea of sameness and leave you confused about what it is they actually do. The biggest mistake I see is jumping into marketing and branding without a clear message that resonates with the right people.

Our guest today is the author of ‘The 3 Word Rebellion: Create a One-of-a-Kind Message that Grows Your Business into a Movement,’ a must read for all business owners.

She has a Ph.D. in Communication and her superpower as a message coach is figuring out what makes you and your message unique. She’s able to see how your message is valuable and deserving of the spotlight in ways that you might not be able to see.

Dr. Michelle Mazur is the founder of The Communication Rebel, message coach, host of the rebel uprising podcast, and author of 3 books.

We get to speak with her about:

Messaging and building an argument for your business
How to actually stand out and not be ignored
The important role of jealousy and those “It should have been me” moments
The Comparison trap
And more…

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Instagram: @drmichellemazur

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This is a subject that we’ve danced around for a year. Finally, we decided to dive in.

Money money money moooney, money! (did you sing that…?)

Money is SO weird. Value is made up. How do we value ourselves, our work, our time?

We see people doing amazing work for next to nothing.

We also see people charging a down payment on a house for bloated programs that over promise and underdeliver.

Why does this happen?

In this longer than usual episode, we explore all of it.

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Write songs, tell stories, move people.

Darden Smith is an Austin-based singer-songwriter known for his lyrics and for weaving folk and Americana influences with rock, pop, and the musical roots of his home state.

He's released 15 studio albums, had singles on both the country and pop charts including a top 10 hit, he's scored work for theater and dance, published a book on creativity, exhibited works of visual art and co-founded a non-profit. Darden has just released his 16th studio album, along with a book of essays and photos called Western Skies.

Please join us for a raw conversation about creativity and community.

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A year of not yelling. Wow that was fast.

Listen to us pat ourselves on the back for 28 minutes :)

All seriousness aside, we reflect on a year of podcasting.

What was easy, challenging, and surprising about it?

What are we looking forward to in the future?

How long are we planning to do this?

Is it sustainable?

If you're a creative person, this episode will give you a peak behind the curtain of shipping your work consistently for a year (29 episodes).

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Whether he’s fully clothed in a hot tub with his brother filming ‘KumTub with Us’, or traveling the world in search for an illusive vegetable, Josh is always working on something new and different. Josh is a musician, professional photographer, and true creative genius.

Today, we get to wander through his many skills and projects with plenty of silliness along the way. I highly recommend checking out his work.

Photography Instagram
Personal IG / music
Website
KumTub with us and other projects he does with his brother
'The tip of the Iceberg' short

There are some exciting changes happening around here over the next few episodes as we approach our one year anniversary!

Keep an eye and ear out for those and thanks for being here.

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You ever get back from a trip and easefully dive right back into your normal routine? Us either.

It seems like no matter how much preparation we do for a trip, we lose a lot of momentum and struggle to transition back into our work.

Is there a way to do vacation right? How do we set ourselves up to fully enjoy our time off?

How do we set up boundaries and expectations with colleagues and clients? How about ourselves?

A lot of creative people (especially in the US) struggle to justify and find time for vacation. And if we do go on vacation, we struggle with letting go of our work and being present.

Bill and Miles discuss their own experiences with taking time off and how we may be able to do vacation unpunished.

Enjoy!

There are some exciting changes happening around here over the next few episodes as we approach our one year anniversary!

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Evan Shank is an email marketing & automations specialist and host of the "Which Way Now?!" Podcast.

From being in a band, to serving, to real estate, to fitness, to marketing and email marketing, Evan Shank did not take a straight line to what he does today.

Instead, he dabbled his way into his sweet spot.

Listen to this episode if you’re on the path of building your own business. Miles, and Evan lift the curtain on some topics that aren’t talked about enough.

Some of what we discuss…

Balance between life and family
Age expectations
Feeling “behind” in life
Turning an idea into profit
(SOS) Shiny object syndrome
Back to the drawing board
What is marketing?
Communication
What is an entrepreneur?
Business seasons
Mindset

Today Evan and his wife Megan raise their two little boys [Jack 4 & Milo 1], while growing his email marketing agency, as well as his podcast, “Which Way Now?!” - geared to encourage and inspire other entrepreneurial minds of the world.

You can connect and follow along on Instagram [@evanshank75] and check out his website evanshank.com.

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This conversation is long overdue. Money is weird. Most of us have or have had screwed up relationships with it. We compare our money to others and attach our self worth and value as a human to this made up number.

Money can also be a fun game that we can all win. It can help us achieve freedom, health, and fulfillment. It can help us make our impact. But we need to understand how it works and how we relate to it. We likely need to unlearn some stuff.

We may not have answers, but we have an honest conversation about money.

Let’s dive in.

What is money actually
The meaning we give it
Deep limiting beliefs around it
Making money as a creative
Feast and famine
Money comparison
How does money feel to you
Changing our relationship with money
Money avoidance

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Most entrepreneurs don’t have business problems, they have emotions disguised as business problems.

Stacy Fischer is the creator of the Emotional MBA®, where business basics meet your emotional operating system.

She teaches and guides you on how to use your emotions to start, grow, and partner in business. On how to feel good & do good.

She’s a long-time entrepreneur that loves adventure – on the road, on a trail, in your head, and all up in the business of feelings.

Our conversation journeys through:

Emotions in business
Getting out of your head
Emotional operating systems
Emotional Tools and language
Thought evolution
The Emotional MBA
And more…

I don’t hear this conversation happening enough. It really does all start here. Go for a walk and listen to this entire episode. You’ll change the way you look at your work, your emotions, and your mindset.

Reach out to us! What stands out to you in this conversation. We’d love to hear from you.

Learn more about her work at www.emotional.mba and www.thewcollective.com and follow her on Instagram @withstacyfischer https://www.instagram.com/withstacyfischer/

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Why is it that we forget how important relationships and connection are? We’re social creatures. In life and in business, yet we can easily forget that and return to our cave (especially introverts).

Today’s conversation is an important one.

Due to technology and the pandemic, we are becoming increasingly used to living through screens. Zoom, virtual work, social media…these are all essential, but they are not IRL (in real life).

We cover:

The importance of relationships
Human need for connection
Relationships as an Introvert
Screen vs IRL
Connecting on social media
Spam messages

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Challenge: call 3 people this week that you haven’t talked to in a while.

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As creatives, we are constantly battling things like expectations, comparison, and perfectionism. Susan, a creative veteran, vulnerably shares her experience with songwriting, touring, and writing one of the most popular country songs of all time, “Wide Open Spaces,” for the Dixie Chicks.

Susan Gibson was born in Fridley, Minnesota, and is a Wimberley, Texas-based singer and songwriter who has released six solo albums and tours the nation. Gibson was the lead singer for the alternative country band, The Groobees, and is the writer of the Dixie Chicks hit "Wide Open Spaces".

We discuss:

Amateur vs. professional
Does every wave eventually hit the shore?
Making without knowing what’s next?
Why we resist the things we adore
The creative muscle

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For better or for worse, music is changing….fast.

From vinyl records, to CD albums, to singles on streaming services, and TikTokers who’ve never touched a guitar.

Bill and I had way too much fun chatting with James Ghareeb – a musician (amongst other things) who isn’t afraid of this change.

Originally from Chicago, Singer-songwriter James Ghareeb has a unique blend of Folk, Rock, and a touch of Pop. James relocated to Los Angeles in 2018 to pursue his music career.

Working with an array of different producers, his sound has built this ambient vibe to it. With inspirations from Ben Howard, Dermot Kennedy, and Bon Iver, James is able to portray many different feelings and emotions. James released his debut album "Colours" in February 2020.

Listen to his newest release, Sophia, and all his other music here: https://linktr.ee/jamesghareeb

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"I’ve already hit my peak…I’ve already had my best ideas, best energy, best thinking...look at everyone else doing it way better than me…why am I so bad at this?”

Does this sound familiar?

Maybe your mind is nice to you and never bullies you into feeling less than.

For the rest of us, it’s a full time job getting out of our own way.

We have a raw conversation about how and when imposter syndrome shows up for us, how it feels, and how to kick its ass so you can get back to being a badass.

We were hesitant to discuss this topic because it feels a bit tired, but I think we really hit an angle that’s not discussed as openly.

If you ever feel like a fraud..like you got lucky…like “they” are going to find you out, give this episode a listen!

We discuss:

Imposter syndrome / comparison
Faking it until you make it (good vs. bad)
Being a fraud, not being good enough
Roadmap vs. story
Getting out of your own way
Everything is figureoutable
You’re not as dumb as you think

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The art of coaching has been distorted in many ways. Have we gotten too far away from what it means to be a powerful coach?

There is a big difference between a coach and a successful coach. Bill and Miles sit with Toku McCree for an awesome conversation about what it means to BE a master coach in your business.

In this conversion, we cover…

What is coaching?
Is coaching oversaturated?
Being vs. doing in coaching
The power of being coached
Nuts a bolts of a legit coaching business
How to think about money
The Coaching MBA

In 2015, Toku was living as a Zen monk and trying to figure out how to share his insights with the world. In 2016, he launched a coaching practice and built a 6-figure business in 18 months with no prior experience or network.

Since 2018, he’s helped hundreds of coaches develop powerful coaching abilities and build thriving practices by focusing on integrity and mastery.

He’s known for his bluntness, endless passion, and deep dedication to the art of coaching.

He’s on a mission to make sure that great coaches are successful coaches, so that more people get to experience the transformational power of coaching.

If you’re ready to take coaching seriously, consider working with Toku. The Coaching MBA Mastermind is about becoming a master at running your business with the same skills and passion you use to coach your clients. Business Mastery for Passionate Coaches.

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How often do you start a day with the intention to “get it all done” or “catch up on everything?

Some days, you get a lot done and it feels really good! Momentum!

Other days, you go down a viscous cycle of procrastination and guilt.

So how do we find a creative and productive flow that ping pongs back and forth between focused work and guilt-free play?

“This episode was inspired by Tim Urban’s idea called, The Dark Playground.

If you’re a creator of any kind, you’ve played on the dark playground many times. But maybe you weren’t aware of it. It’s one of the worst places to be.

Enter Tim Urban (creator of waitbutwhy.com):

The Dark Playground is a place every procrastinator knows well. It’s a place where leisure activities happen at times when leisure activities are not supposed to be happening.

The fun you have in the Dark Playground isn’t actually fun because it’s completely unearned and the air is filled with guilt, anxiety, self-hatred, and dread.

Sometimes the Rational Decision-Maker puts his foot down and refuses to let you waste time doing normal leisure things, and since the Instant Gratification Monkey sure as hell isn’t gonna let you work, you find yourself in a bizarre purgatory of weird activities where everyone loses. – Tim Urban from this article.

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Jordan Mitchell is an recording artist, songwriter, producer, and audio engineer.

Originally from a small farming town Elkhart, KS he relocated to New York City where he has worked as an engineer with some of the top names in the industry such as Aloe Blacc, Cyndi Lauper, Ty Dolla Sign, Brandy, Nile Rodgers, Blondie, Lil Kim, Waka Flacka, Tank, Youngboy Never Broke again, Ray J, Elle Varner, Kat Deluna, Dev Hynes a.k.a. Blood Orange and many more.

This is such an interesting conversation. We dive into...

The creative process
Habits vs. goals
Collaborating with others in your space
Songwriting
Finding your audience
TikTok
Myths around "coming up"
Earning attention
Being an extroverted introvert when needed

Let's explore.

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We need to talk about this...

If you're a human (never know nowadays) you've experienced "professional jealousy."

The contraction that comes from jealousy is unlike any other.

And it's compounded by the fact that we sometimes even wish defeat and failure upon others. Sometimes it's the people closest to us.

Then....the gigantic shame wave pours over us, drowning us in self-pity and stagnation.

Ahhh..

You've chosen a path to go down. A profession, skills, and a career to pursue.

We're all trying to stand out, be authentic, and build something awesome.

It's a vulnerable and brave thing to do.

But what happens when it feels like everyone else has it figured out but you?

What happens if one of your friends experiences huge success in something you've been doing longer.

Jealousy is there for a reason. It's not bad.

It's only "bad" when it steals our attention for too long and sucks us into a comparison trap.

So what can we do to turn jealously into an opportunity?

Let's explore.

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"We have to do the unseen work, so that when we are seen, we have something to show for it."

Myles Biggs is a lot of things...an author, storyteller, marketer, coach, father, podcaster.

His podcast, Relish the Journey, was named #5 on a list of the top 15 Podcasts of 2020, by New York Weekly.

That led him to write the book, Unseen Work.

In his book "Unseen Work" he's taken an unspoken problem and created a framework and context for it.

Join Myles, Miles.....and Bill as we talk about:

Myles' wandering journey in varied industries & roles
The benefit of being a jack of all trades
Letting go of "clarity" and just moving forward anyway
Dealing with uncertainty (+ leveraging it)
What is Unseen work (3 types)
Finding harmony between family, money, career + creative work
Consistency (and lack thereof)
Failed attempts (flops vs. flips)
"Retirement" and its many flaws
Being an introvert who's gotten good at being extroverted
The Unseen work of Fatherhood (his new project)

Connect with Myles Biggs:

Host of ‘Relish The Journey’, Top 15 Podcast of 2020
TEDx Speaker
Author of Unseen Work - Why the best path to your goals is not always a straight line
Website: Mylesbiggs.com
Instagram: @mylesjbiggs

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Unseen Work: Why the best path to your goals is not always a straight line

What's one thing you could do every day that would radically improve your life?

"It's not the load that breaks you down; it's the way you carry it." — Lena Horne.

We meander through...

Creators create
Human doings
Getting results vs. focusing on the result
Writing practice
What could be possible...?
How are you being?
Finding your path of least resistance.
Habits
Goals

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Ryan is an American Buddhist entrepreneur. As the founder of Kitcaster, a podcast booking agency, he facilitates thousands of extraordinary conversations.

Prior to Kitcaster, Ryan owned a media and marketing agency for 10 years. For eight of those years, he has hosted the founder’s podcast Talklaunch. Consistently ranked in the iTunes “Top 100” podcasts, he has recorded 300+ interviews with more than a quarter-million downloads.

He is married with two kiddos in Denver, CO. He enjoys training Brazilian jiu-jitsu (purple belt) and capoeira (green / yellow cord), volunteering as a finance mentor, and is an avid sportsman.

In this awesome conversation with Ryan, we cover… * Ryan’s winding entrepreneurial journey * When to stop and when to keep going * Are you the person to this? * Time managment and knowing how when to say no * Can we be the best in the world at this? * The power of podcasting * Validating ideas (Minimal viable product) * Figuring out your “All I do is….” statement. * American Buddhism * Meditation * “Am I doing this right?” * Having patience and understanding the process

Kitcaster– Ryan’s podcast booking agency.

Ryan’s LinkedIn

Kitcaster IG

The Box Workshop (A workshop for creatives to finish what they started)

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Have you built structure around your work?

Or, do you just create when you feel like it and stop when you don't?

Do you consistently promote your work?

Or do you just post it on your Instagram story once?

In this conversation, we explore what it means to have a "Box" as we've decided to call it.

A container that holds focused energy around your creative work and allows you to show up as a professional creative, coach, and entrepreneur.

We discuss:

Masculine vs. Feminine energy
Finding harmonry
Creating needs boundaries
Selling your work
If you don't sell, there is no art
Showing up as a professional
Selling and promoting is part of the creative process
Believing in yourself
Staying consistent
Developing thicker skin
Getting support and accountability
Creating your "Box"

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Matthew J. Anderson finished his first novel earlier this year.

"Sign of Deception"

Matt grew up in Cottage Grove, a small town east of Madison, WI. His passion for writing started at seven years old when one of his aunts gifted him with a shiny ballpoint pen in a pristine case on Christmas Day.

He started Signs of Deception, his first manuscript when he was eighteen years old. Sixteen years later, at the age of thirty-four, he finally gained the courage to show it to the world and finished the remaining chapters.

In Matt’s free time, he enjoys traveling the world, reading psychological thrillers, exploring new trails either biking or hiking, shooting hoops, and rooting for all the Badger State sports teams

www.authormatthewjanderson.com

We discuss:

Brain fog
Writing practice / process
Creative journey
Consistency
Creative environment
Marketing your work

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On this episode we talk about why we quit right before we take off. Why we fail to launch, and we take a look at clearing the runway as we move into the end of 2021. (we also grossly over use the whole airplane metaphor thing)

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Obscurity: the state of being difficult to see or understand. the state of being unknown or forgotten. Webster.

From string quartet to symphonies, software as a service to coaching performers on how to make a living doing what they love, today's guest shares how he rose from relative obscurity in music school to the thriving business he has today.

Jared Judge has had a diverse career in Music and Technology. Having two degrees in music, he served as an elementary and high school band director and ran a non-profit opera house.

As a self-proclaimed tech geek, he has built many websites and apps. When he launched his wedding string quartet, Dream City Strings, it immediately became the top-gigging string quartet in Milwaukee.

As the administrative work piled high, he launched BookLive as a tool to automate much of that work and to help other musicians run profitable live music businesses. He now coaches hundreds of performing groups on making a living off of music.

In this conversation, we discuss…

Jared's incredible story
Entrepreneurial persistence
Staying in momentum
Eliminating obscurity
Building a great product
Delivering on your promise
Being multi-passionate
Business puzzle pieces
Coaching

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I've asked for a divorce more than once, but I had to face facts; I have a business, so I'm in a long-term relationship with Marketing.

Miles and I wind our way through a conversation about having a healthy relationship with Marketing.

I ran a poll and asked people, "what's your relationship with marketing?"

The most selected answer was...

"It's fine, IDK I'm still figuring it out.

The second was, "It's cringy and I don't like it."

Why do so many people have such a toxic relationship with marketing?

Let's explore that.

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Ok, this is fun... she loves the 90's. Will Smith. N'sync. Headbands... and she's got a way with email marketing that's allowed her to go from writing a book about poop to being one of the most sought after copywriters around, and her business just keeps growing. With Liz Wilcox the sky's the limit.

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Join us as we meander through a conversation about the pitfalls of loud ass marketing, knowing what you really want, and what it's like to play music in a loud bar where no one is paying attention.

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We get to spend some time with the awesome self styled wanderer, writer, pop song enthusiast, drinker of slow drip coffee, and my friend, Jana Pochop. As usual we talk marketing, but also creativity and stating sane. You'll get to hear me forget the name of this podcast, and get snippet of some of Jana's music.

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Not long ago many of us had to jump off the "treadmill" only to find we'd been getting nowhere fast.

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It's our first guest!!

Tune in to this awesome conversation with the extremely gracious and well spoken Jason Moss.

Here's a bit about Jason:

Jason Moss is a serial entrepreneur, spiritual junkie, and conscious business coach. He helps impact-driven coaches and entrepreneurs grow wildly profitable, values-aligned businesses rooted in deep service, fulfillment and connection. He lives in Denver, Colorado with his dog Boomer, partner Kimberly, and robot vacuum cleaner Roomba.

This conversation was a blast. Enjoy!

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Join us for a conversation about the useless pursuit of perfection.

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Our first episode! Learn a little bit about us, why we're doing this, and what we're up to with this podcast.

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