The Mwango Capital Podcast: Recent Episodes

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In this episode recorded on July 7, 2026, we sit down with Ann Magondu (Senior Tax Manager, Deloitte), Joyce Oriedi (Senior Manager, Tax and Legal Services, PwC Kenya), and Akinyi Gikonyo (Tax Consultant, KAM) to unpack the Finance Act 2026, its role in funding Kenya's KSh 1.11 trillion fiscal deficit, merchant service fee withholding taxes, VAT & excise shifts, and EAC cross-border tax implications.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:35 Impact of Finance Act 2026 on Households and Businesses

00:06:27 Withholding Tax on Merchant Service Fees and Interchange Fees

00:12:57 Indirect Transfers and Foreign Investors

00:16:11 Dividends to EAC Citizens and Trade Tensions

00:21:55 Changes to the VAT Act

00:28:44 Changes to the Excise Duty Act

00:32:21 Import Protection for Manufacturers

00:38:40 Public Participation

00:46:59 E-bikes and Solar Power Systems

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In this episode recorded on June 30, 2026, we are joined by Wilson Wariari (Co-Founder & CIO, Arvocap Asset Managers) and Jesse Ochieng’ (Analyst) to break down the mechanics of goal-based asset management in Kenya. We dive into how Arvocap scaled its AUM to KES 14.26B, their active fixed-income trading philosophy, hurdle-rate performance fees, and how funds like Eurofix and Almasi are broadening market access for retail investors.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:31 Gaps Arvocap is Addressing

00:10:17 Assets Under Management Growth Breakdown

00:13:53 Alpha Drivers and Sustainability of Returns

00:26:55 Fees

00:28:19 Almasi Fund

00:33:17 Lock-in and Liquidity

00:38:26 Global Equity Fund

00:47:35 Eurofix Fixed Income Fund

00:57:06 Goal-Based Investing and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on June 18, 2026, we sit down with Justine Kosgei (CEO & Principal Officer, AAR Insurance) and James Kamau (Group Head of Distribution, AAR Insurance) to break down the mechanics of the newly structured FAARMILY Suite. We dive into how automated AI claims adjudication is capping premium inflation, the extension of senior health cover entry up to age 80, and how the insurer is flexing its products to accommodate non-traditional family structures and diaspora clients.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:03 Key Gaps that FAARmily Suite Addresses

00:08:04 Dependants and Documentation

00:10:45 Accessibility and Sustainability

00:13:53 Wellness Programs

00:15:51 Maternity and Seniors Eligibility

00:18:39 Transition of Junior Covers to Adult Covers

00:20:35 Future-proofing the Business through Tech

00:23:38 Non-traditional Families and Diaspora Customers

00:36:16 Future of Family Medical Covers

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In this episode, recorded on June 16, 2026, we sit down with the tax and legal consulting team from Ushuru: Beatrice Njeri, Eddah Nyamweya, Derrick Muchoki, and Valentine Gaya, to break down essential best practices for individual and corporate tax submissions. We dive into the realities of real-time E-TIMS validation under Section 23A of the Tax Procedures Act, expose common bank statement exposure points, and outline the exact steps taxpayers must take when responding to a KRA audit notice or default assessment.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:13 Common Filing Challenges

00:06:04 eTIMS

00:11:57 Penalties & Interest

00:16:55 Freelancers and Consultants

00:19:20 KRA Audit Triggers

00:25:48 Turnover Tax

00:28:55 Handling Audit Notices/Assessments

00:44:23 Return Amendments

00:46:48 Closing Remarks

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In this episode, recorded on June 4, 2026, we are joined by Centum Investment Company Group CEO, James Mworia, to unpack the three strategic evolutionary phases of Centum since 2009, the interplay between its real estate and private equity portfolios, and how the company successfully retired its holding company debt to enter a harvesting phase dedicated to driving sustainable shareholder value.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:18 Centum Investment Model

00:05:57 Debt Strategy

00:13:54 Real Estate Holdings

00:17:20 Two Rivers

00:24:20 Private Equity Portfolio

00:31:00 Capital Allocation

00:34:59 Share Buyback Program

00:38:29 NAV Gap

00:51:42 Strategy and Pitch

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In this episode recorded on May 19, 2026, we are joined by Brenda Mbathi, CEO of TRIFIC SEZ, and Pius Muchiri, MD of Nabo Capital, as we unpack the structure, strategy, and investment opportunity behind the green-focused I-REIT.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:30 Broad Overview of TRIFIC

00:04:02 Why a Dollar-Denominated I-REIT

00:08:39 Use of Funds, REIT Structure, and Offer Size

00:18:25 USD Yield Return vs T-Bills

00:21:17 Tenant Mix and Debt Strategy

00:25:12 Green Certification, Demand, and Leasing Pipeline

00:31:21 Investor Interest and Liquidity

00:39:11 Cost Control, Vision, and Scale

00:45:16 Key Details on the I-REIT and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on May 12, 2026, we are joined by Car & General (C&G) Chief Executive Officer, Vijay Gidoomal, to unpack the group's FY25 financial performance, the rebound of the boda-boda sector across Kenya and Tanzania, and how the business is navigating EV disruptions and leveraging artificial intelligence to build a competitive moat.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:17 Business Streams

00:03:54 Regional Business Footprint

00:08:07 Recovery of the Two-wheeler Business

00:10:41 Margins and Cost Efficiency

00:13:56 Investment in AI

00:23:00 Profitability and Cash Flow

00:24:49 Dividend Policy

00:27:40 EV Market

00:38:13 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on May 5, 2026, we are joined by DelMonte Kenya Managing Director, Wayne Cook, as we unpack the company’s 60-year history in Kenya, its KES 100B economic footprint, vertically integrated export model, and its ongoing community relations and sustainability interventions.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:04 History of Del Monte Kenya

00:08:14 Del Monte’s Business Model

00:12:48 Local Distribution and Exports

00:14:48 Scale and Economic Impact

00:17:53 Relationship with Fresh Del Monte Group

00:20:36 CapEx and Growth Plans

00:24:39 Community Relations and Human Rights

00:28:06 Sustainability Metrics

00:34:19 Outlook, Innovation, and New Product Lines

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In this episode recorded on April 30, 2026, we are joined by SanlamAllianz Life Kenya CEO, Jacqueline Karasha, as we unpack the group’s recent corporate restructuring, FY2025 financial performance, and the strategic opportunities within Kenya’s life insurance and digital pension markets.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:15 New Group Structure

00:07:53 Uptake of Life Insurance

00:12:24 Embedded Insurance Products

00:15:41 Akiba Plus Retirement Product

00:18:42 Dividends and Strategy

00:24:12 Digital Distribution

00:28:48 Reaching the Informal Market

00:42:48 Investment of Policyholder Funds

00:47:03 Industry Outlook

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In this episode recorded on April 29, 2026, we are joined by economist Stephanie Kimani and the Institute for Public Finance (IPF) team of Dr. Peter Nguhiu, Veronica Ndegwa, and Martin Kabaya, to unpack the credibility of Kenya's budget, the structural constraints of debt service, and the sustainability of health and social protection financing.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:16 Budget Credibility Problem

00:05:53 Debt Service Wiggle Room

00:08:04 Healthcare Funding Gap

00:15:05 Tax Proposals to Fund Healthcare

00:27:08 Fiscal Sustainability of SHIF

00:33:02 School Feeding Gaps

00:42:51 Budget Priority Recommendations

00:45:56 Limited Trust in the Domestic Debt Market

00:50:10 Policy Change Recommendations

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In this episode recorded on May 6, 2026, we are joined by I&M Bank Group CFO, David Ngata, and SIB Director, Laban Githuki, as we unpack the bank’s KES 20B Medium-Term Note (MTN) programme, its pricing rationale, and capital optimization strategy.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:33 I&M Bank’s Balance Sheet

00:03:32 Basics of an MTN

00:10:16 Offer Terms and Dates

00:12:41 Minimum Investment

00:13:55 How the MTN fits into the Bank’s Strategy

00:19:20 Use of Proceeds and Lending Growth

00:24:14 Application, Settlement, and Trading

00:29:01 Asset Quality

00:31:18 Key Details and Final Pitch

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In this episode recorded on March 25, 2026, we are joined by the OECD’s Competition Expert, Said Kechida, and the Competition Authority of Kenya’s Director of Policy and Research, Dr. Adano Wario, to unpack competition law enforcement in Kenya and the key lessons from the OECD peer review.

Show Notes

00:00:20 What CAK Does

00:08:04 OECD Peer Review Overview

00:10:39 CAK Policy and Research

00:13:02 Key Takeaways from the Peer Review Report

00:14:34 Strengths and Weaknesses in Competition Law Enforcement

00:19:22 Merger and Acquisition Scrutiny

00:29:56 Fines and Proportionality Debate

00:34:32 Limited Uptake of Leniency Programs

00:38:07 Market Studies and Inquiries

00:49:59 Report Recommendations and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on April 15, 2026, we are joined by Stanbic Uganda’s CEO, Mumba Kalifungwa, to unpack the bank's strategic market positioning, financial health, and its role within Uganda's broader economic landscape.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:41 Economy and the Banking Landscape

00:05:28 Stanbic Uganda’s Structure

00:09:11 Strategy and Growth Priorities

00:16:20 What Makes Uganda Unique

00:20:45 FY2025 Results

00:25:03 NPLs and Credit Risk Lessons

00:31:22 Cost Efficiency Strategy

00:39:19 Positive Impact Framework

00:48:17 Career Advice and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on April 8, 2026, and in partnership with FLLoCA, we discuss climate finance in Kenya.

Our guests:

— Senator Moses Kajwang’ - Homa Bay County

— Peter Odhengo, National Treasury

Host: Ramah Nyang

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:45 What Is FLLoCA

00:08:41 Climate Mitigation and Adaptation

00:11:51 Locally Led Solutions, Cost of Inaction, and Access to Climate Finance

00:21:50 Polluters Pay Vs Domestic Financing

00:31:43 Incentives and E-Mobility

00:34:12 County Funds Oversight, Audits, and Carbon Credits

00:47:31 Climate Justice Funding Gap

00:51:38 Tracking Climate Finance and the National Climate Fund

00:56:57 Focus on Mitigation

01:01:53 Dealing with Misuse of Climate Funds

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In this episode recorded on March 31, 2026, and hosted by Terryanne Chebet, we are joined by SBM Bank’s Magdalene Mwende and Duncan Kiberu to unpack financial literacy for Kenya’s next generation.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:42 Starting Financial Literacy Early

00:16:06 Debunking Kenyan Money Myths

00:23:40 Teaching Financial Literacy in a Cashless World

00:30:33 Building Habits and Work Ethic

00:39:35 Longterm Impact of Financial Literacy in Children

00:45:16 Staying Safe in the Digital Space

00:48:02  Role of Giving in a Child’s Financial Education

00:50:24 Product Roadmap and How to Sign up onto Busara App

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In this episode recorded on March 26, 2026, we break down I&M Holdings FY2025 results with the CFO, David Ngata.

We unpack earnings drivers, balance sheet shifts, subsidiary performance, and outlook heading into 2026

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:30 FY 2025 Highlights and Restatement of 2024 Financials

00:08:13 Interest Income, Customer Deposits, and Loan Growth

00:16:22 Wealth Management, Asset Quality, and NPLs

00:20:15 OpEx, CapEx, and Regional Performance

00:27:55 Capital Allocation, Digital Banking, and AI

00:33:30 Impacting Communities

00:35:20 Banking App, AI in Lending, Loans to Related Parties, and Governance

00:39:30 Increased Investment in G-Secs, Rates Outlook, and Strategy

00:42:49 Life Advice and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on March 19, 2026, and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we unpack Kenya’s debt situation.

Our panelists:

  • Churchill Ogutu - Economist, IC Group

  • Benard Njiri - Senior Research Analyst, IPF

  • Stellar Swakei - Senior Research Analyst, Kingdom Securities

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:33 The Debt Transparency Problem and Why Fiscal Consolidation Fails

00:09:17 Securitization, Supplier Debt, And Pending Bills

00:23:19 IMF’s Pushback against Securitization and Lessons from Ghana

00:26:44 Ringfencing and Revenues/Proceeds Disclosure

00:32:02 Securitization Lessons from 2008 Financial Crisis

00:40:20 Auditing Kenya’s Debt

00:46:22 Tanzania’s Debt Transparency Model

00:51:56 Why Governments Avoid Transparency?

00:56:42 Tanzania’s Single Treasury Account

00:58:24 The Transparency Risk Premium

01:01:24 Policy Changes to Enhance Debt Transparency

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In this episode, recorded on March 11, 2026, we dissect the FY 2025 results for Stanbic Holdings with the Chief Financial and Value Officer, Dennis Musau.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:47 Group Structure and Strategic Pillars

00:10:48 Top Line and New Loan Pricing

00:16:42 Interest and Non-interest Revenue

00:21:54 Why Invest in Stanbic

00:24:36 Costs, NPLs, and Risk Management

00:29:13 Loan Growth, Profitability, and Dividend Policy

00:35:24 S. Sudan, SBG Securities, and Bancassurance

00:40:06 Capital Buffers and Mergers & Acquisitions Strategy

00:47:11 AI in Banking Operations

00:51:20 Outlook and Closing Thoughts

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In this episode, recorded on March 4, 2026, we are joined by the Absa Bank Kenya CFO, Yusuf Omari, as we take a deep dive into the bank’s FY 2025 results.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:53 What Makes a Good CFO?

00:01:54 Overview of the FY2025 Results

00:03:54 Loan Demand, NPLs, Risk Outlook, and Rate Stability

00:08:38 FX and Non Funded Income Growth

00:10:18 Cost Efficiency, Tech, and Investment in Gov’t Securities

00:13:23 CIB Competition and Consolidation

00:15:18 Group CEO Ambitions, M&A Strategy, and Value Proposition

00:20:31  Profitability and Dividend Strategy

00:24:29 Branch Strategy, Insurance, and Asset Management

00:29:33 Regulation, Benchmark Rates, SME Sentiment, and 2026 Outlook

00:34:34 Key Takeaways and Closing Thoughts

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In this episode, recorded on February 4, 2026, we deep dive into Kenya’s recent Moody’s rating upgrade with David Rogovic, VP & Senior Credit Officer at Moody's Ratings.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:27 Methodology in Ratings

00:06:59 Kenya’s Upgrade Explained

00:10:18 FX Reserves, KES Stability, Market Access, and Buybacks

00:16:51 Securitization, Domestic Borrowing, and Revenue Risks

00:25:16 Outlook and Key Risks

00:29:04 How does Kenya compare to Peers on Debt Distress?

00:32:09 Public Private Partnerships and the Macro-Micro Divide

00:37:31 ESG Scores and Ratings Withdrawal

00:41:24 Key Takeaways and Closing Remarks

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In this episode, recorded on February 24, 2026, we dive deep into Ziidi Trader. We break down what it is, how it works, and what it means for investors.

Our guests:

  • Aliya Khanbhai - Head of Wealth and Insurance, Safaricom

  • Gitau Macharia - Product Owner Wealth Management, Safaricom

  • Eric Ruenji - Founder and Chairman, Theo Capital Holdings

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:07:40 Ziidi Trader and its Key Differentiators

00:11:51 Omnibus Structure and Share Ownership

00:17:59 Onboarding, Fees, and Trading Costs

00:23:03 Backend Execution, Liquidity, and Market Hours

00:33:34 Order Matching, Cancellations, and Dividend Payout

00:37:21 Order Book, Reversals, and Nominee Voting

00:41:48 The Future of Ziidi Trader

00:44:31 How To Buy Shares

00:51:46 Access for Investors in the Diaspora

00:55:31 Customer Support, Trading Limits, Market Risk, and Investor Education

01:02:17 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on January 26, 2026, we break down what lies ahead for markets and the economy in 2026.

Guests:— Churchill Ogutu - Economist, IC Group— Stephanie Kimani - Economist— Stellar Swakei - Senior Research Analyst, Kingdom Securities Limited

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:25 2025 Macro Highlights

00:10:15 IMF Programs, China Debt, and Liability Management

00:14:57 Corporate Borrowing and MSME Access to Finance

00:18:19 Debt, Securitization, Equity Markets, and the NSE Rally

00:32:53 Domestic Debt, External Borrowing, and Crowding Out

00:38:49 The Budget Cycle

00:45:57 FX and Interest Rates

00:50:02 Kenya Pipeline IPO and Gov’t’s Sale of Safaricom Stake

01:02:05 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on February 3, 2026, we host Risper Genga, Group CFO at EABL, for a discussion on the company’s H1 FY26 results and the key drivers behind its sales and profitability.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:10 Sales Growth, Consumer Trends, and Regional Performance

00:11:27 Volume-Price Mix, Margins, and Cost

00:16:30 Taxation Challenges

00:20:04 Cash, Working Capital, and Dividends

00:26:14 CapEx, OpEx, and FX

00:29:21 Debt Management and the MTN Issuance

00:38:08 Increasing Receivables, the Asahi Deal, and Looking Ahead

00:44:01 Illicit Brews, Premiumization, and Regional Growth

00:47:50 Leadership Reflections

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In this episode recorded on February 9, 2026, we host the Kenya Pipeline Company (KPC) Managing Director, Joe Sang, and Faida Investment Bank’s, Dr. Belgrad Kenne, to break down the KPC IPO and discuss its implications to investors.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:04 KPC Overview

00:11:31 KPC’s Business Model & Financials

00:17:34 The Role of Transaction Advisors in an IPO Process

00:23:33 Offer Details and Valuation

00:44:11 Dividend Policy and Board Structure

00:47:06 Risks and Strategic Plans

00:59:27 Key Dates and Invitation to Participate in the IPO

01:07:04 CapEx Plans and Future Growth

01:11:52 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on January 29, 2026, we are joined by Africa Logistics Properties’ CEO, Raghav Gandhi, as we explore industrial REITs and what the ALP Industrial REIT restricted offer means for investors.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:06:03 Industrial REITs and their Benefits

00:12:23 The ALP Industrial REIT Offering

00:16:40 Regulation and Consumer Protection

00:20:26 REIT Features, Importance, and Future Vision

00:25:32 Key Dates and Concerns on Minimum Subscription

00:28:26 Value Proposition, Currency Risks, and Key Players

00:38:06 Approval Process, Regulatory Support, Risks, and Mitigation

00:44:04 Lease Duration, Leverage, Ownership, and Decision Making

00:48:57 Future Outlook

00:54:55 Investor Pitch and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on January 22, 2026, and hosted by Joseph Mwaniki, we are joined by Caine Wanjau, CEO of DigiTax, for a conversation on reverse invoicing through eTIMS and its implications for businesses and taxpayers.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:42 Reverse Invoicing and Buyer-Initiated Invoicing

00:09:21 Challenges Addressed by Buyer-Initiated and Reverse Invoicing

00:14:49 Implementation Challenges and Solutions

00:19:40 Regional Perspectives on e-invoicing

00:23:49 Practical Steps for Reverse and Buyer-Initiated Invoicing

00:26:09 Impact of eTIMS Invoicing on MSMEs

00:31:19 Protecting Taxpayers from Abuse of eTIMS Invoices

00:37:32 Future of Electronic Invoicing

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In this episode recorded on November 13, 2025, and hosted by Joseph Mwaniki, we discuss KRA’s new tax validation rules starting Jan 1, 2026.

Guests:—Josephine Mugure, Chief Manager, Policy & Tax Advisory—Hakamba Wangwe, Chief Manager, eTIMS—Agnes Gitau, Manager, Tax, Andersen Kenya

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:48 Legal Framework and Background

00:09:31 Impact on Taxpayers

00:13:06 KRA’s Rollout and Compliance

00:19:59 Simplifying Compliance for SMEs

00:28:49 Handling Non-Compliant Suppliers & Missing Invoices

00:37:14 Verifying e-TIMS Invoices

00:41:51 Exemptions from e-TIMS Compliance

00:45:44 Addressing Technical Challenges

00:52:52 Future of Tax Digitization

00:57:49 Waivers and Penalties due to failure of the Electronic Invoicing System

01:00:46 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on December 15, 2025, we host Standard Chartered’s Head of Wealth Management Products, Ouma Orero, and Head of Advisory and Managed Investments, Khushboo Dhutia, for a conversation on growing your wealth today, tomorrow, and forever.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:47 Understanding Affluent Clients

00:05:43 Starting Now and Financial Planning Frameworks

00:17:38 Building a Resilient Portfolio

00:25:43 Personalized Financial Planning and Intergenerational Wealth Transfer

00:30:53 Wealth Preservation vs Wealth Creation

00:34:26 Investment Risks and Optimizing Investment Decisions

00:38:59 Building Trust with Financial Advisors

00:45:21  Standardized Investment Process and Innovations in Wealth Management

00:52:43 Getting Started with Your Wealth Journey

00:53:46 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on December 2, 2025, and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we host economists from the World Bank to unpack the latest Kenya Economic Update.Guests:—Ryan Kuo - Economist, World Bank—Jorge Tudela Pye - Country Economist, World Bank.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:00 Macroeconomic Developments and Outlook

00:05:40 Competition and Structural Reforms

00:09:32 Challenges in Tax Revenue and Fiscal Policy

00:16:19 SOEs and Market Competitiveness

00:24:50 Impact of Electricity Prices on Competitiveness

00:28:05 State Support, Governance, and Efficiency in SOEs

00:35:14 Telecommunication Sector Analysis

00:45:22 Macroeconomic Stability, Trade-offs, Challenges, and Solutions

00:52:33 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on December 10, 2025, and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by George Kuria, CEO of SanlamAllianz Kenya. We explore the transition to the new brand and what customers should expect going forward.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:42 The Sanlam-Allianz Merger

00:03:23 Understanding the Protection Gap

00:04:41 Targeting New Market Segments

00:08:17 Challenges and Opportunities in Agriculture Insurance

00:10:12 Insurance for Large Infrastructure Projects

00:14:24 Governace Structure

00:15:05 Regulatory and Capital Considerations

00:17:37 Expanding Insurance Penetration

00:20:53 Leveraging Technology for Better Service

00:24:22 Customer Assurance and Future Outlook

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In this episode recorded on December 09, 2025, and hosted by Terryanne Chebet, we discuss building financial and business resilience in 2026 and the role of general insurance.

Guests:— James Kamau - Group Head of Distribution, AAR Insurance

— Kiriinya Kithinji - Head of Strategy, WYLDE International

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:19 Business Resilience

00:08:34 Top Priorities SMEs

00:10:32 Common Risks and Blind Spots for Individuals

00:15:23 Vulnerabilities and Protecting Businesses Financially

00:26:05 Balancing Growth and Stability for SMEs

00:29:03 Rapid Urbanization, the Gig Economy, and Shifting Customer Needs

00:34:37 Choosing the Right Insurance Coverage

00:37:15 Leveraging Networks and Planning for Household Preparedness

00:42:19 Final Thoughts and Actionable Steps

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In this episode recorded on October 30, 2025, and hosted by Joe Mwaniki, we are joined by Terry Muli, Senior Tax Manager at Deloitte, and Ann Magondu, an international tax expert, as we discuss managing KRA audits, what triggers them, taxpayers’ rights, handling assessments, and transfer pricing.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:11 Understanding KRA Audits

00:03:20 Frequency and Scrutiny of Sole Proprietorships

00:07:05 Triggers for KRA Audits

00:14:54 Document Retention and Statutory Periods

00:18:09 Notification and Initial Steps in KRA Audits

00:21:50 Common Mistakes and Best Practices

00:26:01 Audit Modalities

00:28:02 Conclusion of the Audit Process

00:33:31 Valid Notice of Assessment

00:36:35 Notice of Objection

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In this episode recorded on October 23, 2025, and hosted by Julians Amboko, we are joined by Dr. Samuel Tiriongo, Director of Research & Policy - Kenya Bankers Association, as we unpack the revised risk-based credit pricing model anchored on KESONIA and what it means for banks, borrowers, and the economy.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:52 Risk-Based Pricing and Transition to a Unified Base Rate

00:23:28 Impact, Market Governance, Risk-Scoring, and Safeguards

00:34:31 Interest Rates and Fiscal Dominance

00:39:35 KESONIA Minus

00:42:05 Net Interest Margins and Risk Assessment for the Unbanked

00:46:26 Transition Timelines and Bank Preparations

00:52:56 Fixed vs Variable Rate Loans

00:57:52 Global Examples and Regional Leadership

00:59:45 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on November 20, 2025, we are joined by the I&M Holdings’ CFO, David Ngata, as we break down the comapny’s Q3 2025 results. We cover performance in the regions, CBK’s new pricing framework, capital allocation, shareholder returns, and future outlook.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:28 Overview of Q3 25 Financial Results

00:03:51 Regional Subsidiaries’ Performance

00:08:30 Kenyan Market Performance

00:13:16 I&M’s Value Proposition

00:19:28 Net Interest Income and Non-Funded Income

00:22:07 CBK’s New Pricing Framework

00:26:17 OpEx and CapEx Plans

00:30:54 Capital Allocation and Shareholder Returns

00:34:15 Reflections, Future Outlook, and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on September 4, 2025, we are joined by the Nairobi Securities Exchange CEO, Frank Mwiti, to discuss the state of the NSE. We cover key stakeholders in Kenya’s capital market, NSE’s performance, data accessibility, market Inclusivity, and future strategy.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:06:21 Overview of the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE)

00:14:48 Key Stakeholders in Kenya’s Capital Market

00:20:10 Investing in the NSE: Process and Strategy

00:29:22 NSE’s Performance

00:38:58 Addressing Data Accessibility and Investor Relations

00:45:27 Fractional Trading and Market Inclusivity

00:48:17 Lower Commissions and New Listings

01:12:40 Handling Distressed companies

00:17:45 CEO’s Vision and Future Strategy

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In this episode recorded on December 1, 2025, and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we unpack Safaricom’s KES 15B Medium Term Note. We cover green bonds, pricing, liquidity in the market, and use of proceeds rom the MTN

We are joined by:

  • Silha Rasugu — Emerging & Frontier Capital LLP

  • Gregory Waweru — SBG Securities

  • Birju Sanghrajka — Standard Chartered

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:06 Understanding the Green Bond

0:06:51 Pricing and Market Conditions

00:09:14 Liquidity in the Bond Market

00:13:44 Creating an Efficient Capital Structure

00:19:05 Advantage of the MTN over Vendor Financing

00:24:46 Impact of the Debt on Dividend Policy

00:28:14 Future of Corporate Bonds in Kenya

00:34:27 Conclusion and Final Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on September 11, 2025, we are joined by Capital A Investment Bank’s Senior Research Analyst, Ronny Chokaa, as we unpack and break down the H1 2025 results of Kenyan banks.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:01 High-Level View of H1 Bank Earnings

00:03:03 FX Stability and Impact

00:06:27 Interest Margins and Impact of Central Bank Policies

00:13:16 Credit Growth Trends

00:21:12 Profitability and Dividend

00:25:27 Spotlight on Specific Banks

00:38:35 Core Capital Requirements

00:44:04 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on November 04, 2025, we are joined by EABL’s CFO, Risper Ohaga, and Absa Bank’s Director of Capital Markets, Robert Murai, as we unpack EABL’s KES 20B Medium-Term Note, why the brewer is back in the debt market, and what it means for its funding plans and investors.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:54 Working Capital Management

00:02:13 Debt vs Equity in Financing a Business

00:05:11 Financial Performance

00:07:18 Redeeming and Issuing Debt, Investor Participation, and Key Dates

00:21:36 Corporate Bond Market in Kenya

00:25:56 MTN Structure, Secondary Trading, Investor Sentiment, and Market Liquidity

00:29:06 Debt Levels and Balance Sheet Management

00:32:31 Corporate vs. Government Bonds

00:34:31 CapEx and Working Capital

00:38:19 Interest Rates, Tax Implications, Cash Flow and Debt Repayment

00:41:09 Closing Remarks and Final Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on September 09, 2025, we are joined by Lunie Libes, Founder & CEO of Africa Eats, to discuss how the company is building “Africa’s Berkshire Hathaway” by investing in agribusiness SMEs and tackling the missing middle of capital.

We cover Africa Eats’ business model, supporting founders, its focus on Africa, and challenges.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:30 Starting and Scaling a Business

00:05:34 Why Africa?

00:11:58 Africa Eats’ Structure and Impact

00:16:34 Portfolio Companies, Growth, Challenges and Solutions

00:24:49 Supporting Founders, Exits, and Company Growth

00:28:22 Public Listings, Capital Markets, and Market Liquidity

00:38:35 Africa Eats’ Business Model

00:41:07 Traits of Successful Entrepreneurs

00:44:03 Future Vision

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In this episode recorded on July 31, 2025, we are joined by Kishan Popat as we trace his path from computer systems to leading research at Kestrel Capital, and his journey through MIT.

We cover lessons from the 2008 financial crisis, the value of cold emails, the impact of AI on financial analysis, and improving African markets

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:19 Understanding the Financial Crisis & The Role of Structured Finance

00:08:06 Lessons from the Financial Crisis, Investment Strategies and Mistakes

00:13:28 Building a Research Desk at Genghis Capital

00:17:26 The Value of Cold Emails

00:20:15 Day-to-Day Life of an Analyst

00:23:43 The Impact of AI on Financial Analysis

00:27:05 Advanced Education and Business Strategy

00:37:11 Humility and Learning from Top Investors

00:49:40 Critical Minerals and Africa’s Future

00:51:04 Advice for Young Analysts and Improving African Markets

00:57:50 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on July 23, 2025, and hosted by Julians Amboko, we are joined by Tony Olendo, chair of the Virtual Assets Chamber of Commerce, to unpack Kenya’s new Virtual Asset Service Providers (VASP) Bill.

We cover the licensing requirements for virtual asset service providers, legislation, FATF recommendations, regulatory challenges, and initial coin offerings.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:04 Understanding Blockchain and Virtual Assets

00:08:13 Regulatory Challenges, FATF Recommendations, and Legislation

00:29:37 Stablecoins and their Role in the Ecosystem

00:35:44 Licensing Requirements for Virtual Asset Service Providers

00:40:36 Capitalization Requirements Debate

00:44:48 Joint Virtual Asset Regulatory Authority

00:49:35 Need for a Kenyan Stablecoin

00:55:03 Raising Awareness on Initial Coin Offerings

01:00:00 Sanctions and Penalties

01:06:35 Data Protection and Repealing Digital Assets Tax

01:09:36 Final Remarks

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In this episode recorded on July 16, 2025, we are joined by David Rogovic, VP & Senior Credit Officer at Moody’s Ratings, for a deep dive into Kenya’s credit outlook.

We also cover factors that influence credit ratings, debt sustainability, political risk, and the impact of policy.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:41 Understanding Sovereign Credit Ratings

00:02:39 Factors Influencing Credit Ratings

00:07:21 Kenya’s Credit Rating Overview

00:12:39 Fiscal Analysis and Insights from the Recent Visit to Kenya

00:24:25 Political Risk and Policy Impact

00:28:37 Debt Sustainability and Global Markets Access

00:35:47 African Sovereigns’ Perspective on Rating Agencies

00:38:34 Kenya’s Credit Outlook and Final Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on July 21, 2025, and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by KenGen’s MD and CEO, Eng. Peter Njenga, for a discussion on the company’s background, growth plans, and strategic outlook.

We cover future energy prospects, opportunities in renewable energy, diversification of revenue streams, and balancing risks.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:42 KenGen’s History and Background

00:04:21 Strategic Plan and Market Performance

00:09:09 Future Energy Projects and Financing

00:15:37 Challenges and Opportunities in Renewable Energy

00:30:24 Diversification and Revenue Streams

00:35:02 Balancing Risk and Dividends

00:36:20 Five-Year Outlook

00:40:30 Common Misconceptions

00:44:05 Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

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In this episode, recorded on July 17, 2025, we host King’ori Gathinji, Head of Investments and Financial Fitness at Stanbic Bank Kenya, for a conversation on building financial resilience.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:01 Understanding Financial Fitness

00:09:19 Create and Build

00:18:09 Live and Enjoy

00:29:15 Save and Invest

00:39:17 Shared Legacy

00:44:13 Plan and Protect

00:52:03 How to Get Started

00:54:55 Solutions for Groups (Chamas)

00:56:24 Final Thoughts and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 10.07.2025 and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we examine the state of Kenya’s economy and where it’s headed.

Guests:

  • Stephanie Kimani - Economist,

  • Kwame Owino - CEO, Institute of Economic Affairs

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:51 Slowdown in Private Sector Growth

00:15:45 Tax Revenue and Public Spending

00:25:56 Public Sector Spending and Reforms

00:36:08 Fiscal Deficit and Debt Management

00:39:25 Tax Policy

00:56:06 Rebuilding Trust between the Gov’t and Taxpayers

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In this episode recorded on 02.07.2025 and hosted by Julians Amboko, we break down the Finance Act 2025 and what it means for you.

Guests:

  • Agnes Gitau - Tax Manager, Andersen Tax Kenya

  • Jilna Shah - Tax Director, RSM Eastern Africa

  • Fredrick Kimotho - Associate Director, Tax & Legal, Deloitte East Africa

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:19 VAT Changes

00:09:30 Unstable VAT Regime and Fraudulent Claims

00:14:12 KRA’s Clawback Powers

00:18:26  Medium Term Revenue Strategy

00:21:35  Tax Procedures Act

00:31:31 Refund Processing and Filing of Objections

00:37:48  Withholding Tax on Freight Income and Tax Amnesty

00:42:05  Advanced Pricing Agreements and Significant Economic Presence Tax

00:49:36 Repeal of Digital Asset Tax

00:52:53  Investment Allowances and Carrying Forward of Losses

01:00:10 Betting and Gaming Withholding Tax

01:04:34 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 11.06.2025 and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we break down the FY25/26 Kenyan Budget. We also cover the pending bill situation, debt management strategies, stagnation in private sector growth, and fiscal consolidation.

Guests:

  • Rafael Agung' - Group Director of Global Markets, NCBA Bank,

  • Ann M Magondu - Senior Tax Manager, Deloitte & Touche LLP,

  • Churchill Ogutu - Economist, IC Group.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:12 Fiscal Deficit

00:09:00 Tax Measures and Implications

00:14:24 What Tax Cuts Could Jumpstart Growth?

00:25:00 Debt Management Strategies

00:36:10 Pending Bills

00:46:22 Private Data Access Debate

00:50:57 Kenya's Fiscal Credibility

00:54:12 Private Sector Growth Stagnation

00:57:02 Debt Service and Fiscal Consolidation

01:06:34 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 27.06.2025 and hosted by Joe Mwaniki, we engage on key issues and questions around filing of 2024 tax returns ahead of the deadline on 30.06.2025.

Guests:

  • Patience Njau - KRA

  • Dr. Gideon Muhwa - KRA

  • Miriam Wairimu - KRA

  • Ruth Mwiti - Tax Consultant

  • Wycliff Ombasa - Tax Consultant

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:11 Filing Income Tax Returns

00:09:33  Support for Taxpayers

00:13:42 How to Amend a Tax Return

00:17:05 Step-by-Step Filing Process

00:22:15 Filing Tax Returns for Companies and Non-individuals

00:27:41 Resetting KRA Password or Email address

00:31:34 Tax Returns for Freelancers

00:35:30 Filing Returns where there are Multiple Employers

00:37:35 Tax Education and Awareness Campaigns

00:39:23 Resident vs Non-Resident Tax Status

00:46:01 Penalties for Late or Non-Filing

00:49:56 Clarifying KRA Text Messages on Principal Taxes

00:52:35 2024 Tax Laws Changes and their Impact on Tax Returns

00:55:55 Tax Deduction vs Tax Relief

00:57:43 Amnesty

01:02:27 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 20.05.2025, we are joined by Katarina Mpofu – Lead AI Engineer, Stupid Human – as we dive into why AI assistants often prioritize U.S. content and what that bias means for the rest of the world.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:34 Background in Mathematics and Chess

00:08:11 Modeling Cancer Tumor Growth

00:09:40 Credit Risk Management

00:13:42 Leveraging AI in Day-to-Day Life

00:16:51 AI Bias

00:23:33 AI Optimization

00:31:06 AI as a Copilot

00:38:28 Prompt Engineering

00:42:45 Final Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 29.05.2025, we are joined by Samora Kariuki - Founder, Frontier Fintech, and Stone Atwine - Co-Founder & CEO, Eversend, for a conversation on the state of fintechs in Africa and the opportunities and challenges they face.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:36 Funding Landscape

00:12:10 Innovations, Product Development, and Growth Opportunities

00:21:14 Stablecoins

00:37:28 Remittances in Sub-Saharan Africa

00:42:05  AI in African FinTech

00:47:46 AI Financial Fraud and Threats

00:52:21 Regulation and CBDCs

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In this episode recorded on 27.05.2025 and hosted by Terryanne Chebet, we are joined by AAR Insurance’s Group Head of Distribution, James Kamau, and Wylde International’s Director of Strategy, Kiriinya Kithinji, as we explore how insurance providers can better meet the needs of Kenyan SMEs.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:53 SME Insurance in Kenya

00:10:05 The Need for Deeper Education and Awareness

00:13:16 Mindset of Today's Entrepreneur in Preparing for Risk

00:18:31 Delivering Sustainable Insurance Solutions to MSMEs

00:22:58 Financial Literacy and Capacity Building to Strengthen SME Resilience

00:25:49 Reframing Insurance as a Growth Enabler

00:34:18 Leveraging Digital Innovation

00:37:19 Global Best Practices in Building Trust and SME Insurance Uptake

00:39:49 Future of SME Insurance

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In this episode recorded on 08.04.2025 and hosted by Joe Mwaniki, we are joined by Senior Tax Manager at Deloitte & Touche, Anne Magondu, and Audit Partner at Ernst and Associates, Ernest Muriu, as we unpack key proposals in the Finance Bill 2025 and their impact on businesses and individuals.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:05 Income Tax Changes

00:29:42 Tax Procedures Act

00:43:43 VAT Changes

00:49:54 Excise Duties and the  Miscellaneous Levies Act

00:58:39 Alignment of the  Finance Bill with the Medium Term Revenue Strategy and the National Tax Policy

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In this episode recorded on 22.04.2025 and hosted by Joe Mwaniki, we are joined by DigiTax CEO, Caine Wanjau, as we explore how the firm is helping simplify tax compliance for SMEs and large businesses in Kenya.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:12 Caine’s Background

00:03:25 Legal Framework on eTims

00:08:14 Digitax’s Role and Approval by KRA

00:13:26 Determining the Best Solution for a Customer

00:17:22 Integration, Confidentiality, and Pricing

00:29:05 Kenya vs Other Markets

0032:23 Other Offerings

00:34:23 Lessons and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 15.04.2025, we are joined by Arvocap Asset Managers’ CEO & Co-founder, Monicah Mwaniki, and CIO & Co-founder, Wilson Wariari, as we discuss investing, building wealth, and navigating today’s markets.

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00:00:00 Introduction and Journey to Asset Management

00:04:41 Chief Investment Officer’s Role

00:07:40 Highlights of Arvocap's Founding Story

00:14:03 Arvocap Products

00:30:54 Tariffs, AI, and Global Markets Strategies

00:40:49 Getting Started With Arvocap

00:43:09 Hedging and Risk Mitigation Strategies

00:50:52 Fees, Investor Pitch, and Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 27.02.2025, we are joined by analyst and investor, David Kigunda, to explore his journey from Kenya to Wall Street and back.

We cover his path to business school, transitioning to Wall Street, networking, a comparison between US vs Kenyan markets, key lessons on global markets, and investment strategies.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:12 Path to Business School and Wall Street

00:04:38 Navigating Business School Applications

00:10:02 Learnings from Business School

00:15:01 Networking and Overcoming Challenges

00:25:39 Financing Business School

00:28:13 Transition to Wall Street

00:36:25 US vs Kenyan Markets

00:40:04 Returning to Kenya

00:47:21 A Guide to Analyzing Banks

00:50:58 The Future of Financial Analysis and AI

00:56:36 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 10.04.2025, we are joined by the Kenya Mortgage Refinance Company CEO & MD, Johnstone Oltetia, to unpack the mortgage process and clear up common misconceptions about homeownership.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:00 Affordable Housing Challenges

00:07:07 Home-Ownership Market In Kenya

00:11:47 Facilitating Mortgages

00:20:12 Fixed Single-Digit Interest Rates

00:25:19 Myths, Misunderstandings, and Misconceptions about Mortgages

00:33:46  Kenya Mortgage Guarantee Trust

00:45:10 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 26.03.2025 and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by the I&M Bank Kenya CEO, Kihara Maina, and CFO, David Ngata, to break down the bank's 2024 performance.

We cover demand for credit, regional performance and diversification, non-performing loans, M&A opportunities, strategic challenges, and growth opportunities.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:17 FY 2024 Performance Highlights

00:03:08 Loan Book Trends and Credit Demand

00:07:24 Digital Lending and Customer Engagement

00:12:00 NPLs, Regional Performance, and Growth Opportunities

00:17:01 Future Growth, Interest Rates, and Monetary Policy

00:25:07 Regional Diversification, Sector Growth, and M&A Opportunities

00:33:51 Wealth Management Trends

00:35:31 Challenges and Strategic Concerns

00:41:59 Balancing Cash Reserves and Dividend Payouts

00:43:46 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 20.03.2025, we host the Absa Bank Kenya CFO, Yusuf Omari, to break down Absa Bank's 2024 performance.

We cover revenue growth, cost management, investments in digital transformation, capital requirements, acquisition strategy, and the company’s future outlook.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:03 Yusuf’s Career Journey

00:03:56 Short-Term vs Long-Term Loans

00:06:47 FY24 Financial Performance

00:09:48 Revenue Growth, Cost Management, and Efficiency

00:16:26 Asset Quality and Loan Losses

00:21:16 Economic Environment, Profitability, and Balance Sheet Insights

00:29:01 Dividends, Capital Requirements, and Acquisition Strategy

00:34:14 Investments in Digital Transformation

00:37:12 Medium and Long-Term Goals

00:43:29 Personal Reflections, Professional Growth, and Future Outlook

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In this episode recorded on 21.03.2025 and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by Boniface Kamiti, Manager - Consumer Protection at the Competition Authority of Kenya, to discuss consumer protection in Kenya.

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00:00:00 Introduction and Overview of CAK’s Role

00:07:11 Key Consumer Rights

00:09:21 Common Issues and Recourse

00:13:08 Digital Lending and Non-Disclosure

00:25:45 Procedures and Advice to Consumers

00:37:07 Final Thoughts and Contact Information

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In this episode recorded on 25.02.2025, we are joined by Absa Life Assurance Kenya Managing Director and Principal Officer, Githanji Waiguru, to break down life insurance and its role in securing your financial future.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:15 Cultural Influences in Insurance

00:04:49 Journey of Absa Life in Kenya

00:11:59 Relationship with Absa Group

00:13:32 Low Insurance Penetration in Kenya

00:21:44 Assurance vs Insurance and Basic Concepts in Life Assurance

00:27:39 Products for Freelancers and Support During Difficult Times

00:34:19 Investment Component in Assurance

00:35:50 Solutions for Chamas

00:37:30 Premiums and Affordability

00:41:16 Getting Started with Absa Life

00:42:43 Future Outlook and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 06.03.2025 and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by Stanbic Holdings' Chief Financial & Value Officer, Dennis Musau, to break down the banks’ FY 2024 performance.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:38 Cost of Funds

00:02:41 Net Interest Margins and Private Sector Credit Growth

00:09:31 Impact of Tax Policy

00:12:48 NPLs and Recovery

00:20:26 Rate Transmission and Risk-Based Pricing

00:26:46 Risk Exposure on the G2G Oil Import Arrangement

00:31:57 Agriculture Sector Outlook

00:35:39 FX Risks and Commodity Exports

00:37:32 South Sudan Oil Exports

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In this episode recorded on 07.02.2025 and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by Churchill Ogutu - Economist at IC Group, and David Rogovic - VP and Senior Credit Officer at Moody’s, to discuss credit ratings and their impact on African economies.

We also cover their significance, perceived bias, impact on debt restructuring, and the feasibility of an African credit rating agency.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:53 Credit Rating Basics

00:06:33 Significance of Ratings in Investing

00:10:36 Perceived Bias in Credit Ratings

00:12:22 Changing the Outlook

00:15:26 Data Quality Challenges

00:27:35 Impact of Debt Restructure on Credit Rating

00:30:49 Feasibility of an African Credit Ratings Agency

00:37:46 Final Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 30.01.2025 and hosted by Nicole Njuguna, we are joined by Co-operative Bank’s Diaspora Banking Manager, Edison Mochiemo, to discuss the top investment opportunities available for diasporans.

We cover the various products tailored for them, common challenges encountered, emerging investment trends, and exiting investments.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:10 Investment Opportunities Available in Kenya for Diasporans

00:06:38 Common Challenges and Mitigation Strategies

00:15:06 Best Return on Investment Options

00:18:27 Preferential Rates and Incentives

00:20:28 Emerging Investment Trends

00:22:39 Products Tailored for Diasporans

00:25:53 Partnerships

00:27:54 Exiting Investments and Succession Plans

00:34:04  Loans For Investment

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In this episode recorded on 05.02.2025, we host EABL’s CFO, Risper Ohaga, as we unpack the firm’s half-year 2024/25 results in detail. We cover the impact of macroeconomic factors on the company’s operations, supply chain management, capital expenditure, and the focus in 2025.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:20 Impact of Macroeconomic Factors

00:04:31 Top-Line Growth

00:08:47 Impact of Tax Changes

00:14:12 CAPEX

00:16:28 Dividends

00:18:40 Payables and Receivables

00:20:09 Supply Chain Management, Ethanol Sourcing, and Global Tariffs

00:25:38 Premium Brands and Consumer Spending

00:29:00 2025 Focus Areas

00:32:59 Reflections and Final Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 23.01.2025, we host Asman Mugambi, CEO of Jubilee Life Insurance, to explore strategies for smarter financial planning in 2025 and beyond. We also cover Jubilee Life Insurance and its products, risk management, misconceptions about life insurance, and regulation in cryptocurrency.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:25 Jubilee Life Insurance and its Products

00:10:40 Retirement Planning Advice

00:14:49 Flexibility in Contributions

00:16:31 Investment and Risk Management

00:20:28  Financial Planning for 2025 and Beyond

00:22:51 Life Insurance Misconceptions

00:27:28 Freelancers and Gig Workers

00:29:21 Regulation and Investment in Cryptocurrency

00:33:53 Impact of NSSF Act of 2013 on Retirement Savings

00:38:46 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 06.02.2025, we host the Stima Sacco CEO, Gamaliel Hassan, to learn how SACCOs operate, their benefits, and how to leverage them for financial growth.

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Key Quotes

“More than 40% - 45 % of the money that we earn as a profit, is paid back to our membership.”

“Even as you look at what is being given to you as a return, the first question you should always ask yourself is ’The place I've put my money, is the money safe?’ Return is secondary. You have given a principal amount to somebody, can that principal sum be guaranteed that if you need it, you're going to have it? So number one, ‘Is the money safe?’ Number two, ‘If I want my money back, am I going to get it?‘ Number three, ‘Is the money accessible?’ And then lastly, let's talk about the aspect of return, and this goes without saying, if the return is too good, normally think twice. If somebody is offering you a return of 30%, ask them, what are you trading in to give you such a return.”

“Guarantee is not an obligation. You're not obligated to guarantee anyone. Only guarantee the people that you know very well, you know where to find them, probably their families, something about them, their character. Because guarantorship is about character.”

“When you join the SACCO, there are two very important disclosures. Disclosure number one, your shares are not refundable but they are transferable. So if you have shares in a SACCO, correctly as stated, those shares, you cannot come and say, refund me the shares. Those shares will always be part and parcel of the share capital of that SACCO, and that is by law and by regulation. However, those shares can be transferred…The second disclosure is on the deposits that I've talked about, the monthly deposits. Those monthly deposits are indeed withdrawable. You can be able to withdraw them. However, there's a catch around it. By law, you can withdraw them by giving a 60-day notice. So you give 60 days’ notice and say, I'm withdrawing, and within 60 days you must get your money back.”

“The best thing you can give somebody is the ability to make income. You don't want to be giving handouts to people. You want to show somebody how to make money. The best thing is to showcase to people how money can work for you, and the share capital is a classic example of that.“

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:11 Understanding Saccos and their Operations

00:11:50 Joining a Sacco

00:16:18 Stima Sacco Products and Benefits

00:27:49 Interest Rebates, Dividends, and Loans

00:44:55 Guarantees and Loan Repayment

00:51:47 Exiting a Sacco

00:58:22 Stima Sacco Financials

01:04:52 Diaspora Members

01:06:00 NPLs and Financial Discipline

01:17:27 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 14.01.2025, we are joined by Hawi Abwonji - Research Analyst at ArvoCap Asset Managers, Stephanie Kimani - Economist, and Sunil Sanger - MD, Orion Advisory Services as we explore 2024 economic trends and the outlook for 2025.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:42 Macroeconomic Environment in 2024

00:06:57 Equity Market’s Performance

00:10:34 Bonds Market

00:16:06 Investor Perspective on Emerging Markets

00:18:57 Government’s Creditworthiness

00:28:49 Investors’ Concerns in 2025

00:32:26 2025 Outlook

00:54:00 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 10.12.2024, we are joined by Stella Mutai - HFC Kenya’s Head of Mortgage, Florah Muthaura - KMRC’s Head of Risk & Compliance, and Shadrack Etale - a Branch Manager at Stima Sacco, as we explore affordable homeownership for the Kenyan diaspora.

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Key Quotes

“ The company's primary mission is mainly to provide affordable, long-term funding to financial institutions…It is also a financial institution itself, and it's non-deposit-taking. We operate by refinancing the mortgage portfolios that the primary mortgage lenders advance to borrowers, and all our lending is collateralized. And that's why we really take a low margin to be able to pass that benefit to the ultimate borrower. This approach has really enhanced liquidity in the housing finance market, making homeownership more affordable to Kenyans.”

Flora Muthaura

”The interest rate is single digit, and that's our value proposition, and it's fixed for the entire duration of the mortgage… The best part about the KMRC loan is fixed for the entire duration. And that is really important because you have predictability of your repayment and you don't have to worry about your repayment going up.

We even tend to support our financial institutions by encouraging them to increase the loan-to-value ratio, which we accept up to 105%. This is mainly to cover the costs associated with processing a mortgage, such as the legal fees, valuation fees, and stamp duty.”

Flora Muthaura

”One of the things we also discovered from our business of lending is that most of the members will want to get a facility for constructions as opposed to purchase simply because they are able to tailor make to their tastes and preferences and that is very critical. Now what happens if that's what you want?

Number one, you have to construct a house on land. So ensure you have a piece of land that has ownership documents. That is very critical. If you come to the Sacco, and you have a land that has a title deed or certificate of lease, then the Sacco is able to give you 100% in terms of construction.

You have to know the cost of that house. If it's a bungalow, we need to have a QS give us the bill of quantities. And if it is a mansion, then ensure you have structural drawings from a qualified engineer, and, of course, the process begins with an architect giving you the plans and all those things have to be approved.”

Shadrack

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:07 KMRC and Affordable Housing Solutions

00:09:19 HF Group’s Relationship with KMRC

00:11:27 KMRC’s Loan Requirements

00:12:43 Home Ownership Challenges Faced by Diaspora Customers

00:25:49 Saccos' Relationship with KMRC

00:27:45 KMRC’s Loan Process

00:32:31 Loan Repayments by Diaspora Clients

00:39:19 Saccos Supporting Diaspora Clients

00:42:35  Tax Implications, Legal Requirements, and Financial Risks

00:57:44 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 13.12.2024 and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by the Competition Authority of Kenya’s Director of Policy and Research, Dr. Adano Wario, as we unpack how competition can tackle inequality and promote fairer markets.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:26 CAK’s Role and Mandate

00:08:06 Overlapping Mandates with Other Regulators

00:13:00 Enforcement Challenges

00:17:36 Mergers and Acquisitions

00:25:28 Inequality in the Marketplace

00:33:13 Digital Economy and Big Tech Concerns

00:39:13 Market Inquiry and Regulatory Impact Assessments

00:47:39 Data Access, Data Privacy, and Compliance in Digital Markets

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In this episode recorded on 03.12.2024, we are joined by Jubilee Insurance’s GM Corporate & Retail Pensions Catherine Kangata and Chief Distribution Officer Kanyingi Kagucia to learn more about life insurance.

We cover the state of life insurance in Kenya, insurance penetration, choosing the right insurance plan, claim settlement, and accessibility of insurance products.

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Key Quotes

“We need to do more public awareness and people need to appreciate that insurance is not only for the wealthy. There are solutions that are there for all of us depending on your needs.”

Catherine Kangata

“You want to look at life as three phases. You have an income accumulation, a wealth accumulation phase when you have the energy. When you're working, when you're setting up your businesses, you're bringing in the cash, so to speak, and you're building up your wealth. Then you have a phase that comes somewhere from the 40s into the 50s, you're looking at wealth consolidation. That's what we call the consolidation phase. So the accumulation phase, 20s into your 30s, consolidation phase, 40s into your 50s. And then once you get to retirement after 60, you go into what is called deaccumulation… What you do in your accumulation phase and your consolidation phase is critical in deciding what is going to happen in the deaccumulation phase.”

Kanyingi Kagucia

“ When we talk about endowment life policies, we are looking at the type of life insurance that combines savings and investment components. It looks at, should this event occur, then my loved ones would be compensated at a particular level. If the event does not take place, then there's a payment that comes back to me. So it combines those two, maturity or death. It's going to pay out one of the two.

When you talk about term, the term life is a pure risk policy. And this is what it means, it covers only for the event of death. So if I take out a plan for 10 years, 20 years or 30 years of a term life policy, should that time elapse and death has not occurred, I don't get paid because what I was buying was protection against that event happening within that period. Whereas I could be paid back under endowment should I not pass on, in the term life then if the event does not occur, I don't get paid. The policy comes to an end.

When we come to whole life, and this is an interesting one, this covers you for the duration of your life so long as premiums are paid. We have whole life policies in the industry and around the world where you can pay for a given period of time, 10 years, 15 years or so, and after that your cover still remains open and you're covered for it. Now the interesting thing with whole life is that the event must occur. So death must occur, and therefore the people who benefit from a whole life are those that we leave behind again.”

Kanyingi Kagucia

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:15 Life Insurance in Kenya

00:06:34 Insurance Penetration and the Need for Life Insurance

00:23:04 Types Of Life Insurance Policies

00:34:30 Unique Kenyan Saving Habits

00:41:13 Claims Settlements

00:47:02 Affordability and Accessibility of Insurance Products

00:51:33 Insurance for Different Life Stages

00:56:01 Sum Assured and Investment Returns

00:59:40 Getting Started with Life Insurance

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In this episode recorded on 21.11.2024 and hosted by Tim Kipchumba - Co-founder at Questworks, we are joined by Spin Mobile Limited’s CEO, Dr. Victor Kiplagat, and CTO, Eng. Sammy Kariuki, to discuss how alternative data is revolutionizing credit scoring.

We cover the use of alternative data in credit scoring, security and privacy of user data, the application of AI in credit scoring, and adapting alternative data for SMEs.

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Key Quotes

“ One of the biggest benefits of this alternative data is triangulation. Data should be able to verify itself. I'll give you an example. If this customer at the point of loan application or providing their KYC indicated that they operate in Thika Road, maybe Kahawa Sukari or Kahawa Wendani. Maybe wrote they run a small shop around that. Now, when you get data, let's say from mobile money statements, which actually provided by the customer, and you notice that this customer is literally doing their shopping every day in the evening in Langata, they take their lunch along Langata Road, probably shop at Naivas Supermarket next to Langata Road, literally itself correct. So it's actually able to tell you there is something here that is not adding up. So that's really the beauty of having many sources of data. Remember, in conventional lending what we call traditional data, it was mainly referencing. It is historical and submitted by financial institutions. But now if you have this many sources of data and confirmations coming in from these verification APIs, you can be able to verify most of these aspects.

Dr. Victor Kiplagat

“Another challenge is ensuring that the lender has the credit scores within three minutes or five minutes, and whether it's a tiny statement, 20 pages, or something with 2000 pages, they're able to make a decision within five minutes. This overall ensures that at some point, we will not even need to have human beings looking at this data. We can be able to automate this data because you can guarantee that the system would have already generated the expected output within one minute and can move on to the next decision.”

Eng. Sammy Kariuki

“ Anybody who is venturing into technology space, be ready to change. Remember our story of how we started by being a lending company, and it's a customer who requested us to do this credit scoring. We were not to get into it. So it was client-led. So I think be more agile. Be willing to try new technologies.”

Dr. Victor Kiplagat

“Listen to who you're targeting, your customers, what they need. And I think that's one of the things that have helped us to innovate and to keep improving on the product. It's not an easy thing to do perfectly, but it really ensures that you are solving real problems and that people find your product to be very useful and adaptable. That's something I would tell any startup or any company that's trying to find its footing and make a difference.”

Eng. Sammy Kariuki

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:06:44 Alternative Data in Credit Scoring

00:15:20 Misconceptions About Alternative Data

00:22:24  Financial Inclusion and Success in Credit Decisions

00:25:51  Challenges in Collecting, Processing, and Analyzing Alternative Data

00:28:10 Classification, Security, and Privacy of User Data

00:33:20 AI in Credit Scoring

00:37:00 Open Banking and Data Integration

00:39:36 Adapting Alternative Data for SMEs

00:45:53 The Future of Credit Scoring in Emerging Markets

00:49:11 Expanding Reach and Advice for Fintech Startups

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In this episode recorded on 02.12.2024 and hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by Robert Kibaara - CEO of HF Group as we dive into HF Group's Q3 2024 results and their rights issue.

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Key Quotes

“We have heavily digitized our business… We have 54 journeys and we embarked on enabling customers to be able to consume services of the bank through the digital channels, pretty much as if they would come to the bank. And now I can say 80% of our transactions, as I said earlier, are through digital channels and our banking app has been voted the best banking app in Kenya. Now I can tell you this digitization work has really pulled down our costs by removing manual processes, both in the back office and in the customer-impacting channels. So this will remain a key pillar to our transformation.”

“Branches have an optical value. And I think people feel the confidence of knowing that if I have an issue, my branch is not far away. So that's the first reason. The second reason is branches have become conversation centers. So people use branches less for transactions and more for conversations, especially business customers who like to come, and have a conversation with the relationship managers or relationship managers go to them. And thirdly, branches are also advisory centers where you can be able to advise clients. And then also finally scale. Sometimes people want to see that the company they are banking with also has many branches.”

“Keeping an eye on the cost, focusing on the target sectors that are fast-growing, less risky, and less susceptible to macroeconomic forces, we believe that we can be able to sustain this growth.”

“You should be asking me because I'm one of the smaller investors of the group as a person. Why have I taken up my rights and why have I invested in the company? In fact, I've applied for more shares than my rights. And why is that? I'll say a few things. Number one, HF group the group itself and all its subsidiaries are profitable. And if you just think about the new capital, the new incremental money that is coming, it is coming to power the growth of the business. Now, today, the costs of the business, the establishment costs of the business, what we call overheads are all taken care of. So we are not going to double the technology of the company. We are not going to double the number of staff. So that entire cost is already taken care of. So the marginal or incremental capital that is coming in will power the growth of the business, and it's going to accelerate the growth of the business and the rewards to shareholders are going to be sooner.”

“The reason why I would encourage somebody to invest in this business is just the fact that they can be able to grow with the business as it grows, and in my view, it's a very good opportunity.”

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:15 HF’s Journey, Diversification, Culture, and Skillset Transition

00:07:13 Revenue Mix, NPLs, Challenges, and Strategy

00:14:47 Affordable Housing

00:16:18 Rights Issue and Dividend Policy

00:21:39 Impact of Govt’s Affordable Housing on HF’s Mortgage Business

00:27:53 Legal Issues in Asset Recovery

00:29:59 Digitization and Branch Expansion

00:36:04 Liquidity Ratios

00:40:12 Insurance Business, Innovation, and Cost of Funds

00:44:32 Future Outlook

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In this episode recorded on 20.11.2024, we are joined by Brent Malahay - Chief Strategy Officer at Equity Group, Willy Mulamba - Ag. Managing Director at Equity BCDC, and Paty-Paterne Mushagalusa - Commercial Director at Equity BCDC to unpack Equity Group's Q3 2024 results and the DRC strategy.

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“Let me give you four statistics which may give you a sense of the true problem statement of Africa. The first statistic I'll give you is 3%. 3% is the share of wealth that Africa has if you use GDP. The second statistic is 8%, and this is essentially the supply of food net of exports that Africa has. And then importantly, the third statistic is 17%. And this is the share of Africa's population, and the last or the fourth statistic I'll give is 25% and this is the population of Africa by 2050. So the real problem statement for Africa is how we close the gap of the 3% to the 25% by 2050.”

Brent Malahay

“Our subsidiaries, which include DRC contributed 48% to our asset base. DRC contributed a third to the total Group in terms of total assets or balance sheet. In terms of profit before tax, our subsidiaries contributed 53%. And if we just look at the DRC, it contributed also about a third to the Group's profitability.”

Brent Malahay

“Any investors coming from Kenya or any other country in Eastern Africa where it's a bit developed, we can only believe food and agriculture, I think internal transformation can present a quick conversion in terms of opportunities and then returns on any investment.

The other one will be education and health. Kenya has quite an impressive network in terms of schools, in terms of education we believe that industry itself can also present great opportunities for any investor coming. Health as well I think is a critical and basic need in the DRC, specifically in big hubs of which Kinshasa would be number one, and other areas such as Lubumbashi, even Eastern DRC, and Bukavu. This would be, I think, the three or four where you can see a quick low-hanging fruit for conversion into opportunities and in PNL.”

Willy Mulamba

“As a group, we intend to have 100 Million customers by 2030. So maybe not so much 5 years, but call it in the next 7 years, we expect to have a hundred million customers. For us, the focus is more about the customer target than necessarily the number of flags we plant, our map.”

Brent Malahay

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:34 Equity Group’s Strategy

00:10:04 DRC's Role and Its Economic Potential

00:19:24 The DRC Strategy

00:21:33 Kenya's Economic Landscape

00:25:03 Economic Challenges, Consumer Trends, and Diversification

00:26:01 Opportunities in the DRC

00:28:51 Regional Strategies

00:32:01 Security Concerns in the DRC

00:36:38 Equity Group's Vision and Future Plans

00:41:38 Closing Remarks

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In celebration of Customer Service Week, we partnered with Kenya Airways on a discussion about growing towards customer excellence. Our guest host, Terryanne Chebet, is joined by Julius Thairu - Chief Commercial & Customer Officer at Kenya Airways of Customer Service Week in this episode recorded on 08.10.2024.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:03 KQ’s Customer Service Week Activities

00:06:56 Customer Service Strategy

00:13:27 Improving On Customer Touchpoints

00:21:46 Self-Rebooking Platform

00:24:43 Addressing Customer Challenges

00:32:01 Future Initiatives At KQ

00:39:47 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 03.10.2024, we are joined by Dr. Brian Lishenga - Founding Chair of Rupha Kenya and Dr. Trizah Tracey John - Ag. Head of Health Financing at the Ministry of Health to discuss the Social Health Insurance Fund.

We cover the transition from NHIF to SHIF, SHIF benefits, NHIF’s weaknesses that SHIF seeks to address, implementation challenges, funding mechanisms, and the claims process.

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Key Quotes

“We have the four main sources, where we have the government sources, we have the health insurance aspect, and we have external funding commonly what we call the donor funding, as well as what the population pay at the site, at the point of service delivery, that is the out of pocket expenditure. So looking at those four elements, the whole principle of health financing is to try and balance those four by making sure we have more government funding, more health insurance, less out-of-pocket expenditure, and less reliance on donor funding so that we have sustainable financing for the country.”

Dr. Trizah Tracy John

“The other key difference is that SHA actually carries three funds whereas NHIF had just one fund, the insurance fund managing the insurance scheme. Under SHA, the authority, that is the Social Health Authority, seeks to manage three funds. And that is the primary health care fund, the Social Health Insurance Fun (SHIF), and the emergency chronic and critical illness fund.”

Dr. Trizah Tracy John

“The issue of fraud is double-sided in the sense that one, it was conveniently used to push back against a genuine request for payment. Number two, it was an issue that required collaboration by rogue providers and some NHIF staff.”

Dr. Brian Lishenga

“One of the things that is obviously clear and the reason for the vigorous debate is that the money available to pay for the benefits is not enough. Even if we tax at 2.75%, we don't think we will raise enough money to pay for the healthcare that Kenyans want.”

Dr. Brian Lishenga

“As a country, we need a blueprint for health. We can't have the cyclic political changes that we see in the health sector, because on average, it takes about 15 years for you to realize any return on investment in any change that you bring into the sector, and we must quarantine the sector from the political happenings. And a blueprint is the only way that can change this, and we will use how much of acreage, maybe a president, a governor or your MP is able to cover in that blueprint as the indicators for success.”

Dr. Tim Theuri

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:07 Transition from NHIF to SHIF

00:09:25 Healthcare Provider’s Perspective

00:16:49 Fraud Within NHIF

00:20:40 NHIF’s Weaknesses that SHIF Seeks to Address

00:30:32 Implementation Challenges and Patient Experiences

00:37:58 SHIF Benefits

00:45:09 Funding, Claims, and Informal Sector Contributions

00:50:05 Proxy Means Testing

00:52:17 Balancing Benefits and Financial Realities

01:03:12 Concluding Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 19.09.2024, we are joined by Geofrey Mwaura - Head of Refinancing at Kenya Mortgage Refinance Company, Lydia Owuor - Partner at Cliffe Dekker Hofmeyr, Stella Situma - Partner at Cliffe Dekker Hofmeyr, and Beatrice Chege - Head of Mortage at Absa Bank Kenya to discuss common misconceptions about mortgages in Kenya.

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Key Quotes

“A mortgage can typically be obtained through three means, a borrower may be buying an existing house, or you may be buying off plan, or you may be in ownership of an undeveloped piece of land, and then you're borrowing to construct.”

Lydia Owuor

“When you look at the statistics, Kenya's mortgage penetration is less than 2%, in fact, 1.9% as per the last CBK report that was published last month. We’re actually talking about a very big gap in terms of mortgage penetration. Homeownership sits at around 21% in the country compared to other markets where they are up over 70-65% in Eastern Europe where home ownership is quite high. So we have a lot to do.”

Geoffrey Mwaura

“When we started, there was a limitation on income, 150, 000 which moved to 200, 000. But recently, we have removed that income limitation so that we allow more Kenyans to enjoy this program. So as of today, you can access up to 10.5 million with no income restrictions. So if you are earning through employment or you are doing business, you can still access this as long as you are buying a property that is within that 10.5 million for your own occupation.”

GeoffreyMwaura

“What I want to emphasize is that due diligence is key. In circumstances where you're buying, due diligence is key. Due diligence on the registered owner of the property, due diligence on the property itself, and lately the scope of due diligence has expanded. We've seen flooding incidents, and that may require structural due diligence before you acquire such properties. We've seen properties that have been adversely mentioned. We have an ongoing land conversion and migration process, which is a process of tidying up our records. And there are some properties within Nairobi because that's where we still are, which have not been gazetted for conversion. So you need to be proactive, check why your property has not been gazetted for conversion and please deal with those issues. So do not skip due diligence.”

Lydia Owuor

One of the things to look at when you're dealing with such developers is do they have the necessary approvals for the development that they're taking out? And this is where you actually demand to see those documents because you're buying into this and you need to know that you're buying into something that has already been legally recognized by the government. And then also do they have enough money to finish the construction? Where is their source of income? You don't want to be the ones pumping everything and you know with pre-sales the deposits don't come all at the same time. So when people are not paying what happens does the developer stall and just wait for you to pump in the money?”

Beatrice Chege

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:49 Understanding Mortgages in Kenya

00:04:18 KMRC’s Role in Affordable Housing

00:06:29 Eligibility Criteria and Legal Aspects for Mortgages

00:18:54 Debunking Mortgage Myths

00:23:57 KMRC’s Funding and Impact

00:30:57 Down Payment, Monthly Repayments, and Foreclosure

00:45:08 Income Limits and Mortgage Accessibility

00:48:52 Credit Worthiness and Mortgage Approval Process

00:54:28 Due Diligence, Success Stories, and Market Impact

01:02:02 Mortgage Products and Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 24.09.2024, we are joined by Spiro Kenya CEO, Kaushik Burman, and Deputy Country Manager, Raymond Kitunga, to discuss the impact of Electric Vehicles (EVs) on Kenya's transport sector.

We also cover the African EV market landscape, building the EV ecosystem in Kenya, financing solutions to drive EV adoption, and Spiro’s key products and innovations.

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Key Quotes

“For Spiro, our vision is aligned with what we call SDG goals, sustainable development goals, which means by actually developing affordable and clean mobility accessible infrastructure, we will be in a position to provide this to mass customers, mass consumers so that they feel included, they feel and that leads to a massive amount of compounding in terms of GDP growth, in terms of quality of life, in terms of multiple other factors. So for us, that is the higher purpose which drives us and inspires us to come to work.”

Kaushik Burman

“Now we are deploying fast chargers in Kenya. So wherever you want to go and do a quick fast charge in 15 to 20 minutes, you can fill up, and charge up 30% of your battery. And then we are also giving home charging kits to customers. So people who have access to home charging can just go and charge their batteries through the night.”

Kaushik Burman

“We have developed our own maps. So we don't use Google Maps. We use Spiro maps. Increasingly, you will see that maps will have the energy network footprint, and the number of swap stations. Any boda rider, or even for that matter, if you're a normal consumer, you'll be able to actually see where the swap stations are, where the fast chargers are, and you will increasingly see more and more action happening on Spiro maps.”

Kaushik Burman

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:25 Spiro’s Journey and Vision

00:05:33 African EV Market Landscape

00:08:16 The EV Revolution

00:11:17 Key Products and Innovations

00:14:59 Building the EV Ecosystem in Kenya

00:20:19 EV vs Fuel-Powered Bikes

00:26:15 Financing Solutions

00:29:46 Regulatory Insights and Future Outlook

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In this episode recorded on 12.09.2024, we are joined by AAR Insurance’s CEO, Justine Kosgei, and Head of Distribution, James Kamau, as we explore affordable and flexible insurance solutions for families and businesses.

We also cover insurance penetration in the country, their ShwAARi product, implementing cloud Infrastructure and digital transformation to enhance service provision, and their partnerships with various stakeholders to provide effective insurance coverage.

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Key Quotes

There are quite a number of barriers that make insurance not accessible amongst Kenyans. One of them is affordability. For a fact, insurance is expensive compared to some of the other priorities in the household…The other barrier to insurance would be probably the product designs, maybe they're a bit complicated for the ordinary person to understand. And the other would be probably trust.”

James Kamau

“The ShwAARi proposition was all about bringing that simplicity to medical insurance and the product has very unique features. It is a very innovative product. It has what we call a one-limit. Most, in fact, all health insurance products have an aspect of inpatient-outpatient and then quite a number of sub-limits to address other concerns like dental, optical maternity and what have you, pre-existing conditions. So what ShwAARi does is to create a solution that is one limit. It gives you a lot of empowerment because you are able to decide on the limit that you have bought.”

James Kamau

As a result of having our systems in the cloud, we're able to have platforms that provide services in a paperless and electronic manner. So we have a core platform that supports us, especially on claims. One area of this is our claims. That means that, for our customers, we have used this to ensure that they can access services digitally. Using mobile, you can view your health insurance benefits. Using the mobile, you can go to the hospital and be identified using biometrics. Your fingerprints can be used to access your insurance card, and then you can be given services. Then using the same platform hospitals can submit their claims digitally because the platform connects the hospital systems to our systems and therefore we do not need human intervention or paperwork to do that.”

Justin Kosgei

“Finally, I'd like to just highlight one more thing, which we tested again in partnership with our M-TIBA providers, where we worked with transport sectors Saccos to have an evacuation product because of the huge number of accidents that we have in the country. I think recently we've had a lot of accidents happening. Things that we noticed is that whenever accidents happen, there's a delay in getting emergency help. Normally there's a lot of lives that can be saved within that time frame.”

Justin Kosgei

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:16 Insurance Penetration

00:08:20 Technological and Innovative Solutions

00:14:25 Affordability and Transparency

00:16:41 Insurance Products for Women and Youth

00:25:06 Microinsurance

00:32:53 Cloud Infrastructure and Digital Transformation

00:34:20 ShwAARi

00:39:18 Restrictive Limits on Dental and Optical

00:45:53 Flexible Solutions for the Underserved Market

00:50:43 Home and Business Insurance Products

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In this episode recorded on 17.09.2024, we are joined by Stanbic Bank’s Asset Management Portfolio Manager Jimmy Karanu, and Head of Asset Management - Christian Mwirigi as we explore wealth creation with Stanbic Asset Management. We also discuss their product offerings, fees, investment allocation, asset classes, and risk management.

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Key Quotes

“With as little as a thousand Kenya shilling, you can be able to partake in our money market offering, and with as little as 100 USD, you are able to partake in the U. S. dollar offering. That is quite intentional because from where we sit we want to equally provide accessibility to these solutions because we believe that's part and parcel of promoting financial inclusion.”

“A money market fund is the safest form of what we call unit trusts that you can partake in. It is designed to ensure that the investments that are contained within that pool are as liquid as possible, are as stable as possible to be able to not only give you a competitive return, but also ensure that your funds are actually readily accessible should you need to access the money.”

“When you look at money market funds, they are designed to minimize risk through something that is called diversification. At the end of the day, the structure of the fund is that, it being a pooled investment, you basically have what you call indirect exposure to multiple asset classes.”

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction and Career Journey

0:03:58 Overview of Stanbic Asset Management

00:05:59 Understanding Unit Trusts and Key Players

00:12:23 Product Offerings and Fees

00:17:01 Investment Allocation, Asset Classes, and Risk Management

00:25:07 The Investment Process, and Value Dates

00:29:38 Investing for the Long Term

00:38:02 Future Plans and Diversification

00:44:32 Advice for Young Investors

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In this episode recorded on 06.09.2024, our guest host, Terryanne Chebet, is joined by Grace Vihenda - Manager, Innovation and Sustainability at KenyaAirways to discuss the airline’s sustainability efforts through The Aviation Challenge.

We also cover the economic and social aspects of sustainability, the cost-benefit analysis of sustainability efforts, and engaging passengers in sustainability.

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Key Quotes

“Sustainability really is a philosophy. I would put it like that. It's a philosophy, a way of working and running a business, it's not necessarily the thing that you do on the side. Now let's do sustainability, no, it's actually part and parcel of what the organization does every day and is ingrained in the actual strategy of the company.”

Grace Vihenda

“There are ways that sustainability can help to reduce costs. So in many words, I'm saying it's not really a conflict. It's about how can we be smart enough and strategic enough to make sure that our sustainability initiatives are contributing to profitability as opposed to taking away from profitability. So that can include just having to think out of the box and be creative. And for me, that's the one thing I totally love about my combined role of innovation and sustainability because, on the one hand, we have this and have to drive this creative thinking, yes, this is what we need to do. How can we do it in a way that is actually bringing profit to the company as opposed to taking our profit from the company?”

Grace Vihenda

“When you change the way you look at things, the things you look at change.”

Wayne Dyer

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:08 Innovation and Sustainability

00:05:49 Economic and Social Aspects of Sustainability

00:08:23 Environmental Initiatives and Upcycling

00:10:06 Sustainable Aviation Fuel and Local Partnerships

00:12:01 The Aviation Challenge (TAC)

00:20:49 Cost-Benefit Analysis of Sustainability Efforts

00:25:30 Tree Planting, Climate Action, and Sustainable Fuel Initiatives

00:29:18 Engaging Passengers in Sustainability

00:30:38 Sustainability vs Profitability

00:34:37 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded 15.08.2024, our guest host, Rhina Namsia, is joined by Wilson Wariari - Chief Investments Officer at ArvoCap Asset Managers and Bill Oloo, CFA - Portfolio Manager at Kuza Asset Management on an insightful discussion on understanding unit trusts and their importance as investment tools.

We also explore the risk and return of different unit trust products, the investment decision process, assessing a fund manager’s performance, management fees, and macroeconomic factors affecting unit trusts.

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Key Quotes

“According to the Capital Markets Authority, a unit trust is simply a pool of assets, which have been gathered together based on the contributions of members. And according to the regulations, we have a variety of unit trusts. We have a money market fund. We have an equity fund. We have a fixed-income fund, and at the same time, we have a balanced fund. And if you have to look at the latest statistics around 86% of the funds are domiciled in money market funds and fixed-income funds. And according to the latest statistics we have, at the end of the first quarter of the year, we had around 225 billion shillings in unit trusts.”

“A client wants the highest possible return while taking the most appropriate level of risk, not necessarily the smallest, but the most appropriate level of risk.”

“One should try as much as possible to expose oneself to asset classes whose returns are not necessarily conjoined. By conjoined, they don't necessarily go up together or they don't exactly go down together. So in other words, you need to expose yourself to a basket of security so that at least from a risk perspective, one is effectively covered.”

“One key aspect that would be able to determine whether or not one can be successful from a long-term perspective, just in terms of gathering wealth would be discipline, and the ability to just be goal oriented.

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:21 Understanding Unit Trusts

00:09:15 Risk and Return

00:13:03 Momentum Fund

00:16:52 Investment Decision Process

00:20:45 Assessing Fund Managers’ Performance

00:23:28 Diversification and Advantages of Unit Trusts

00:30:09 Active Funds vs Passive funds

00:40:41 Investment Decisions in Active Funds

00:48:33 Minimum Investment Amount

00:53:55 Management Fees and Costs

01:00:00 Macroeconomic Factors Affecting Unit Trusts

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In this episode recorded on 22.08.2024, we host NCBA Bank CEO and Kenya Bankers Association Chairman, John Gachora, to discuss the bank’s H1 2024 performance.

We cover the current state of the economy, the acquisition of AIG Kenya, regional subsidiaries and expansion into West Africa, the risk-based pricing model, and the impact of Kenya’s credit rating downgrade.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction and H1 2024 Performance Highlights

00:02:33 Managing NPLs and the State of the Economy

00:11:24 Regional Subsidiaries and Expansion to West Africa

00:15:52 FX Performance and the Acquisition of AIG Kenya

00:19:32 M&A and Capital Requirements

00:22:49 Risk-Based Pricing Model

00:24:03 Digital Banking Strategy

00:27:49 Dividend Policy

00:29:23 Rising Staff Costs and Strategic Hiring

00:32:41 Mobile and Digital Loan Offerings

00:38:15 Impact of Kenya’s Credit Rating Downgrade

00:40:41 H2 2024 Outlook

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In this episode recorded on 30.07.2024, we explore the challenges and expectations for John Mbadi as Kenya's now Treasury CS, focusing on fiscal strategies, cost-cutting, tax policy, public debt management, and the impact of debt restructuring on financial institutions. The discussion also covers how citizens can hold the government accountable and the importance of transparent and efficient fiscal management.

Our host is Ramah Nyang who is joined by Churchill Ogutu - Economist at IC Group, Stephanie Kimani - Economist, and Ruth Kendagor - Head of Research at The Institute of Public Finance.

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Key Quotes

“Instead of looking at introducing new taxes and increasing tax rates, I would suggest he focuses on just enhancing the tax collection mechanism, as well as broadening the tax base to increase government revenues. Broadening the government tax base, in this case, is based on the use of digital tax systems just to minimize tax evasion as well as optimize the compliance in overall tax collection and remittance.” - Stephanie Kimani, Economist

“Our tax system has inclined quite significantly on consumption taxes, VAT, and excise tax. Excise tax is meant to be a sin tax. Let it be a sin tax and let's stop the creativity of saying maybe if we include financial services here, we'll get some extra coin. It's a sin tax, let it be a sin tax. Do not impose a fine on other components that are not sins, on issues that affect the day-to-day lives of citizens, issues that make people's lives easier, and issues that make business life easier.” - Ruth Kendagor, Head of Research at the Institute of Public Finance

“When there's a need for budget cuts, it's always the development spend that is cut fast or cut more drastically. This provides the government an opportunity to increase the use of PPPs to fund those large infrastructure projects, which would at the very least help the government in its development agenda.” - Stephanie Kimani, Economist

“What has been happening in the space over the last three, four years, actually even longer than that is, we find that measures that are introduced in the 2023 finance bill have now been reverted in the 2024 finance bill. Measures that were introduced in the 2022 finance bill were reverted in the 2023 finance bill. So predictability really affects business planners. Say, for instance, you are investing in a particular industry in the hotel industry or the hospitality industry and the finance bill 2023 had given you a particular benefit in terms of tax exemptions or subsidized rates for you to put in your investment. Now you look for this good money, billions or millions to invest, and just before you finish constructing your hotel, you haven't even finished it for you to recover anything, the law is changed, and the taxes back up. So really it discourages investors and businesses, and one of the responses we've seen is that a number of businesses have cut back because of the unpredictability of the system.” - Ruth Kendagor, Head of Research at the Institute of Public Finance

“Rescheduling has to happen around reforms. As long as we continue having problems with wastage, for as long as we continue having problems with corruption, and leakage, our rescheduling process will happen, but it will happen in a problematic manner. It will affect citizens because of the extra burden, and any additional cost that comes with it, all the additional pressure will be transferred to citizens. It really will not address the root cause that was meant to be addressed because the whole reason why we want to talk about rescheduling is because we had bad decision-making when we were borrowing debt. And so if these reforms are not put in place, the rescheduling will not really translate much. Finally, rescheduling needs to happen within an environment where there are prospects for economic growth, where you know that we're rescheduling this debt at this particular time, using these resources to invest in this particular area so that we spark growth and the revenues that will be generated from the growth sectors, then you'll be able to pay off that debt.” - Ruth Kendagor, Head of Research at the Institute of Public Finance

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:37 Top things expected of John Mbadi

00:09:24 What alternatives do Kenyan policymakers have?

00:13:17 Opportunities to cut cost

00:23:55 Unpredictability of tax strategy/laws

00:30:49 Tax cuts

00:40:38 Public debt management

00:44:24 Potential impact of debt restructuring

00:52:06 How can citizens hold the government accountable?

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In this episode recorded on 10.07.2024, our host, Ramah Nyang, is joined by David Rogovic - VP and Senior Credit Officer at Moody’s, Jared Osoro - Economist and Director of Credit Markets at FSD Africa, and Tom Ogada - Programme Assistant at Okoa Uchumi to breakdown Kenya’s debt situation.

We also cover the current fiscal challenges, the diminished capacity for fiscal consolidation, the implication of domestic debt restructuring, Moody's assessment of debt exchange, public debt audit, and the credibility of public data.

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Key Quotes

“We've been talking for a very long time about expanding the tax net. That simply means bringing more people or more economic agents to that tax bracket. The unfortunate reality is that we've been doing so using convenient but not necessarily effective ways and that is leaning more towards indirect taxes consumption-based taxes. We have seen a proliferation of excise duty, and VAT which touches on almost every economic agent. The problem with that is that it may not necessarily lead to the expansion of the tax revenue. In any event, it may actually lead to what you can call a discouraging consumption.”

Jared Osoro, Director of the Credit Markets Program at FSD Africa

“When we think about the key credit challenge for Kenya from Moody's perspective, yes, the debt burden is high, but debt affordability, which we measure as interest to revenue or interest to GDP is really weak, really high interest to revenue ratio. One of the highest among all the sovereigns that we rate. Of the 143 sovereigns rated, it's in the lowest 10, or the bottom 10 sovereigns. And again, without the revenue measures given the current interest rate environment, given the larger fiscal deficits that we're expecting this year, relative to what was expected prior to the cancellation of these tax measures which should imply higher domestic borrowing, debt affordability will worsen even further.”

David, Vice President and Senior Analyst at Moody's Sovereign Risk Group

“If you think about this, the balance between a revenue-based fiscal consolidation versus an expenditure-based fiscal consolidation. The revenue-based one gives us more confidence that the narrowing in the fiscal deficit that we would project for this year would continue for the year after and the year after versus the spending cuts this year. If you agree that they are more temporary in nature, then you would expect at some point spending to rise, and without an equal rise in revenue that means larger fiscal deficits in the future.”

David, Vice President and Senior Analyst at Moody's Sovereign Risk Group

“What we're really looking for is confidence over the fiscal consolidation that limits the deterioration in the debt burden, debt affordability. So whether it's through revenue measures, spending measures, something that gives us confidence that we can comfortably expect to see a narrower fiscal deficit year after year, that's consistent with debt declining or stabilizing at some point in the future that will be really what we're looking for.”

David, Vice President and Senior Analyst at Moody's Sovereign Risk Group

“Let us fix our expenditure and the leakages that we have so that we can see how we can reduce the fiscal deficit that we have because it is what is informing the kind of borrowing and the debt stock that we are seeing.”

Tom Ogada, Programs Assistant at the Civil Society Group, Okoa Uchumi

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:10 Fiscal Challenges and Debt Restructuring

00:15:06 Public Policy Litigation

00:20:08 Diminished Capacity for Fiscal Consolidation

00:25:40 Market Access

00:27:25 Implication of Domestic Debt Restructuring

00:29:59 Public Debt Audit and Credibility of Public Data

00:40:17 Moody's Assessment of Debt Exchange

00:43:19 Debt Service Costs and Improving Ratings

00:51:44 Final Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 09.07.2024, we host the Nairobi Securities Exchange (NSE) CEO, Frank Mwiti, for an in-depth conversation on the state of the exchange.

We cover the current state of the securities exchange, market performance in 2024, access to data, listings from the government, the corporate debt market, and his vision for NSE’s future.

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Key Quotes

“Currently, the participation, for example, by retail investors in Kenya is less than 10%. So, you can see that a huge chunk of our market is reliant on institutional capital. And by the way, more than 60 percent of that institutional capital is foreign.”

“Given that we are in a high-interest environment, and my view, I think that is going to persist for quite a while, especially given the activities of the last few weeks in our country. The government is going to, in my view, continue borrowing at fairly elevated levels, the upper teens, which means that banks in all likelihood will continue to lend to the private sector in the mid-twenties. And that's a secure debt now, which means there is opportunity potentially to come to the public market and raise funds at potentially more competitive terms including potentially even raising a hard currency denominated funding through our market.”

“The green bonds, let me call it the larger sustainability ESG agenda, there's more capital looking for opportunities than there are opportunities but the single biggest issue is origination and structuring.”

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:05 Overview of the NSE

00:09:12 Kenyan Capital Markets

00:12:15 2024 Market Performance

00:20:52 Strategies to Attract Investors

00:35:54 Access to NSE Data and the Earnings Calendar

00:45:43 Listing from the Govt, Tech Companies, and the Impact of AI

00:52:58 The Corporate Bond Market

00:59:56 Cost Of Investing in the NSE

01:05:56 Future Outlook

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In this episode recorded on 11.07.2024, we host the AAR Insurance CEO, Justine Kosgei, for an in-depth conversation on the firm.

We cover the firm’s product offering, insurance penetration in Kenya, affordable health insurance, Social Health Insurance Fund (SHIF), and IFRS 17’s implementation and impact.

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Key Quotes

On insurance penetration:

“Many people don't know how the penetration is calculated. Usually, it's a percentage of total insurance premiums that we have in the industry compared to the GDP. So right now it's below 3%. That is very low compared to other countries such as South Africa. For example, whereas our penetration is 3% as a contribution to the GDP for developed countries and in Africa, places like South Africa, they're talking about 17%. So it means we are very far off. It means that the number of people also that have insurance if you take the number of people who have health insurance in Kenya, or private insurance, is about 2 million. Yet we have 55 million Kenyans in total. Meaning we have over 50 million Kenyans who have no insurance.”

On cultural aspects:

“We have very strong bonds and very strong support systems that sometimes do not encourage people to take insurance.”

On Insurance cost:

“When you have a smaller pool, you, as actuaries or as statisticians, realize that for you to have adequate premiums together for expenses, you have to charge more. But if we have more penetration, then it will be easier to price and create solutions that are more affordable.”

Show Notes

00:00:33 CEO’s Career Journey

00:09:48 Company History

00:15:47 Insurance Penetration

00:26:20 Product Offering

00:31:37 Affordable Health Insurance

00:35:23 Social Health Insurance Fund (SHIF)

00:38:04 Dos and Donts of Insurance Policies

00:40:27 Responsibilities as a CEO

00:43:57 IFRS17

00:48:49 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 27.06.2024, our host, Ramah Nyang, is joined by Churchill Ogutu - Economist at IC Group, Stellar Swakei - Senior Research Associate at SIB, Oyoo Wycklife - Council Member at Law Society of Kenya, Nikhil Hira - Partner at Koddy Africa LLP to discuss the legal and economic implications of the Finance Bill 2024's rejection.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:55 Impact on Ability to Raise Cash

00:05:47 Legal Perspective on the Withdrawn Finance Bill

00:15:43 The Appropriation Bill and the President’s Proposal to Cut Spending

00:23:17 LSK’s Update on Persons Arrested During Protests

00:27:46 How Can Kenya Fix the Debt Problem?

00:43:41 Possible Implications of the President’s Recommendations

00:49:32 Spending Cuts

00:56:48 Laying the Foundations for Future Growth

01:03:47 Fiscal Targets in Relation to the IMF Program

01:13:46 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 12.06.2024, our guest host and communications expert, Terryanne Chebet, is joined by the Competition Authority of Kenya’s Senior Investigations Officer, Prisca Mwanyale, in a conversation on the various strategies and sanctions CAK employs to unmask cartels.

We also cover CAK’s role, what cartels are, how CAK chooses the industries to investigate, the cost of collusion, penalties, challenges in ensuring compliance in the digital space, and checks that keep CAK from abusing its power.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:03 CAK’s Role

00:07:52 Cartel and Uncovering Them

00:13:52 Choose Industries to Investigate

00:19:01 The Investigation to Enforcement Process

00:22:41 Collusion and Penalties

00:32:11 Compliance in the Digital Space

00:34:20 Anti-Competitive Behavior

00:36:18 Cartel Enforcement in Other Countries

00:40:54 Lessons from Forensic Activities

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In this episode recorded on 10.06.2024, our guest host, Julians Amboko from Nation Media Group, is joined by Stephanie Kimani - Economist, Nicholas Kahiro - Tax Manager, Ruth Mwiti - Tax Consultant, and Stellar Swakei - Economic Analyst for a 2024 pre-budget analysis and a discussion about the Finance Bill.

We cover the performance of the Finance Act 2023, the government's ambitious revenue targets in a depressed economy, the voluntary tax disclosure program, the national tax policy, and expenditure estimates for FY 2024/2025.

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Key Quotes

“From the analysis and observation of where we are currently, I don't believe that the Finance Bill 2024 will be able to raise more than KES 600B and still I do not believe that we will be able to achieve the current fiscal year's revenue target and also the next fiscal year's revenue target.” - Stellar Swakei

“Let's have consistency. Let's have predictability. And with the National Tax Policy out, I will urge the government to make sure going forward, let us anchor our changes or amendments in the tax legislation with the national tax policy.” - Nicholas Kahiro

“The budget reading, in my opinion, will be a non-event. There is not much that will change in terms of the numbers that we've already seen. However, what I would love to come out of the budget reading is the government's commitment. That political goodwill and the political commitment that they will be walking the talk and just assuring Kenyans that we are with you because what I have been feeling in the past couple of months, even through this whole public participation for the finance bill, is that there's a bit of a disconnect from what the government expects or thinks is happening on the ground vis-a-vis the reality.” - Stephanie Kimani

“There are laws currently that have been made or developed to collect taxes, the income tax, the excise duty act, the VAT act, and in terms of administration, the Tax Procedures Act. My view is that we don't need to keep on changing the law to increase revenue. I am of the view that if these laws, the way they are, are implemented, the government can achieve the tax that it is looking for.” - Ruth Mwiti

Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:58 State Of The Economy and Finance Act 2023 Performance

00:07:01 Supplementary Budget II

00:19:58 Direct vs Indirect Taxes

00:28:00 Govt’s Ambitious Revenue Targets

00:34:58 FY 24/25 Expenditure Estimates and Fiscal Consolidation

00:42:27 The National Tax Policy

00:55:01 Deficits in the FY 24/25 Budget

01:00:40 The Voluntary Tax Disclosure Program and Tax Amnesty

01:05:46 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 23.05.2024, our guest host, Ramah Nyang from Bloomberg Africa is joined by Stellar Swakei - Senior Research Associate at SIB, Kigen Kiplimo - Head of Policy Research at KNCCI, Zach Munyi - Head of Public Policy at EABL, and Job Wanjohi - Head of Policy Research at KAM to unpack the Finance Bill 2024.

We cover policy changes that stand out, the impact of the tax proposals on financial services, motor vehicle circulation tax, infrastructure bonds, and engagement by National Treasury with industry players.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:45 Standout Policy Changes

00:05:47 Impact on Financial Services

00:21:00 Concerns from KNCCI

00:25:19 Motor vehicle circulation tax

00:38:28 Tax on Infrastructure Bonds

00:43:30 Policy Proposals by KNCCI

00:45:49 Proposals by KAM

00:51:36 EABL Proposals

01:01:59 Engagement with National Treasury

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In this episode recorded on 15.05.2024, we are joined by our guest tax experts Ruth Mwiti, Ernest Muriu, and Karambu Muthaura to unpack the Finance Bill 2024.

We cover the proposed changes to the Income Tax Act, taxation of infrastructure bonds, motor vehicle circulation tax, VAT, pension and retirement benefits, excise duty, and changes to the Tax Procedures Act.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:48 Overview of the Finance Bill 2024

00:05:51 Proposed Changes in the Income Tax Act

00:15:39 Motor Vehicle Tax

00:24:03 VAT

00:32:21 Pension, Retirement Benefits, and Excise Duty

00:47:55 Changes to the Tax Procedures Act

00:58:54 Amendments to the Employment Income

01:03:14 Is KRA Exempted From The Data Protection Act?

01:04:54 Infrastructure Bonds and Eco-Taxes

01:09:59 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 30.05.2024, we host Kuza Asset Management’s CEO, James Mose, CFA, on the firm’s journey to achieving KES 1B in assets under management.

We also cover the firm’s key products, financial literacy training, asset classes they are invested in, regulation, fundraising, and long-term view.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:57 Role of Chief Investment Officer

00:03:13 Kuza’s Journey and Key Products

00:17:01 Journey Into Asset Management

00;23:35 Value Proposition

00:28:12 Regulation by CMA and RBA

00:32:46 Financial Literacy Training

00:34:09 Asset Classes

00:36:36 Working Capital, Management Fees, and Fundraising

00:40:12 Longterm View

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In this episode recorded on 14.05.2024, we host Nahashon Mungai - Executive Director, Global Markets at Standard Investment Bank to better understand SIB and its product, Mansa-X.

We also cover its regulation, the Kenya shilling and USD funds, risk management, management fees, and taxation.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:43 SIB’s Business Model

00:06:41 Mansa-X

00:10:45 Regulation

00:11:51 KES and USD Fund

00:13:17 Custodian, Trustees, Diversification, and Liquidity

00:21:10 Financial Instruments and Tools

00:28:11 Management Fees and Risk Management

00:32:11 Lock-In Period and the Compounding Effect

00:38:53 Risk of Losing Initial Capital

00:45:13 Competition, Huddle Rates, and Taxation

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In this episode recorded on 09.05.2024, we are joined by the Competition Authority of Kenya’s Cecilia Kyenze - Senior Analyst, Policy and Research and Ninette Mwarania - Manager, Policy and Research to discuss the institution's role in enhancing consumer experience with online food delivery platforms.

We also cover regulating online food and grocery delivery marketplaces, the duration of market inquiries, handling consumer complaints, enhancing consumer experience, and addressing consumer data concerns.

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Show Notes

00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:29 CAK’s Mandate

00:05:59 Market Inquiries

00:10:26 Prioritization and Duration of Market Inquiries

00:12:22 Inquiry Into Online Food And Grocery Delivery Platforms

00:22:43 After a Market Inquiry

00:26:05 Handling Complaints and Enhancing Consumer Experience

00:30:13 Addressing Consumer Data Concerns

00:32:03 Regulating Online Food and Grocery Delivery Marketplaces

00:33:01 Conclusions, Recommendations, and Takeaways

00:39:13 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 13.03.2024, our guest host, Victoria Rubadiri, is joined by Risper Alaro - Group Finance Director at Centum Investment, Sheilah Birgen - Director at Digital Cooperation Organization, and Mercy Kimani - Managing Director at Dale Carnegie Kenya on a conversation about investing in women.

We also cover the differences women make in organizations, overcoming gender bias at the workplace, empowering women, and skills to better equip women.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:14:18 Differences Women Make in Organizations

00:19:04 Overcoming Gender Bias at the Workplace

00:22:22 Empowering Women

00:25:50 Navigating Relationships With Men at The Workplace

00:29:45 Skills to Better Equip Women

00:33:41 Unconscious Bias Among Investors When Dealing With Women-Led Ventures

00:37:41 Lifting Women Through Leadership Ranks

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In this episode recorded on 11.04.2024, our guest host, Rhina Namsia, is joined by Kenya Mortgage Refinance Company (KMRC)’s Finance Manager - Erick Kimanzi Wambua, and Head of Internal Audit - Olive Gitau on a discussion about the path to affordable home ownership.

We also cover KMRC’s business model, KMRC’s rates vs bank rates, initiatives in the informal sector, and the impact of the housing levy on affordable housing.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:53 Affordable Home Ownership and Challenges

00:05:20 KMRC’s Business Model and Facilitating Affordable Housing

00:11:00 Household Income and Loan Limits

00:13:09 Informal Sector Initiatives

00:21:34 Risk-Sharing Facilities, Mortgages, and KMRC Rates vs Bank Rates

00:30:08 Innovative solutions that KMRC has come up with

00:35:49 Subprime Mortgages and Future Outlook

00:41:16 FX Exposure and the Housing Levy Impact

00:47:39 Success Stories

00:52:46 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 26.03.2024, we host Lawrence Kimathi, Group Director Finance - KCB, as we break down the bank’s 2023 financial performance.

We also cover NBK’s sale, subsidiary performance, dividends, the G2G oil deal, and the bank’s 2024 outlook.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:00 Local vs Multinational Banks

00:04:00 FY23 Results Overview

00:07:54 Customer Deposits, Gross Loans, and NPLs

00:18:35 NBK

00:23:10 Interest Income vs Interest Expense

00:26:18 Cost to Income Ratio and Subsidiary Performance

00:33:56 Capex and Dividends

00:36:27 The G2G Oil Deal

00:38:59 Outlook for 2024

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In this episode recorded on 25.03.2024, we host Kihara Maina - Regional CEO and Billy Ng'etich - Acting CFO from I&M Group as we break down I&M Group’s 2023 financial performance.

We also cover interest income trends in a rising interest rate environment, monetizing digital transactions, risk-based pricing model, unlocking shareholder value, and subsidiary performance.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:04 Overview of FY 23 Results

00:01:47 Interest Income vs Interest Expense

00:03:00 Non-Funded Income, NPLs, and Interest Income Trends

00:09:02 Bottom Line, ROE, and Investments

00:16:31 Lending Rate and Risk-Based Pricing Model

00:20:27 Strategy, Positioning, and Products

00:23:46 Dividend Payout Ratio and SLLR

00:28:46 Acquisition by East Africa Growth Holding

00:29:26 Unlocking Shareholder Value and Subsidiary Performance

00:32:51 Monetizing Digital Transactions and G2G Transactions

00:37:29 2024 Outlook

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In this episode recorded on 19.03.2024, we host Yusuf Omari - Finance Director, Absa Bank Kenya, to deep-dive into the bank's FY 2023 results.

We also cover FX depreciation, exposure to government securities, risk-based pricing model, the cost of risk, and mark-to-market losses.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:23 Overview of the FY 2023 Results

00:03:24 FX Depreciation and Exposure to Government Securities

00:07:13 NPLs and Preference for Short-Term Lending

00:10:56 Customer Deposits, Loan Uptake, and the IFB

00:18:55 Cost of Risk and the Cost-to-Income Ratio

00:25:19 CAPEX and Dividends

00:27:44 Non-Funded Income, Insurance, and Asset Management

00:32:08 Loan-To-Deposit Ratio and Mark-To-Market Losses

00:34:19 Interest Expense, FX Outlook, and Risk-Based Pricing

00:40:48 Longterm Plans, M&A, and Key Takeaways

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In this episode recorded on 29.02.2024, we host Nankunda Katangaza - Co-founder and Director, Hook Tangaza, John Kamau - Associate Director Financial Crime Advisory, PwC EA, and Titus Kariuki Senior Manager Financial Crime Advisory, PwC EA to unpack the repercussions of Kenya's greylisting by The Financial Action Task Force (FATF).

We also cover the issues Kenya needs to address to get off the grey list, measures to protect against financial crime, cryptocurrency as an attractive channel for illicit funds, and enhancing compliance.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:41 FATF, AML, and CFT

00:07:33 Implications of Being on the Grey List

00:25:13 Issues to Address to Get Off the Grey List

00:36:50 Challenges in Reporting Suspicious Transactions

00:42:52 Enhancing Compliance

00:59:07 LSK’s Contribution Towards Getting Kenya Off the Grey List

01:04:04 Cryptocurrency as an Attractive Channel for Illicit Funds

01:07:18 Protecting Against Financial Crime

01:13:54 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 06.03.2024, we host Dennis Musau - Chief Finance & Value Officer, Stanbic Bank to delve into the bank's FY 2023 earnings results.

We also cover the loan book, NPLs, participation in the G2G program, the impact of Kenya’s graylisting by FATF, dollar access in the market, SBG Securities’ performance, dividends, and share buybacks.

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00:00:00 Introductoin

00:06:46 2023 Performance Overview

00:10:04 Loan Book and Non-Performing Loans

00:22:44 Interest Income, Investment In Gov’t Securities, and Non-Funded Income

00:30:02 The G2G Program

00:32:18 Statutory Loan Loss Reserve, Dividends, and Share Buy Backs

00:37:55 South Sudan Subsidiary’s Performance, M&A, and SBG Securities

00:42:11 Exposure in the Tea Sector

00:43:58 FATF Graylisting, Dollar Access, and Eurobond Repayment

00:53:21 Impact of Depreciating Currency on Tier-One Banks

00:57:14 Outlook, Strategy, and Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 14.02.2024 and hosted by Ramah Nyang - Business Journalist, Bloomberg, we are joined by Julians Amboko - Business Journalist, Nation Media Group and Churchill Ogutu - Economist, IC Group to discuss Kenya's recent Eurobond issuance and buyback.

We also cover borrowing from the domestic market vs the international market, issuing Eurobonds at a fixed vs floating rate, and expectations from the Finance Act and Finance Bill 2024.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:13 Cross-Default

00:08:20 2031 Eurobond Issuance and the 2024 Eurobond Buyback

00:11:03 Alternatives for Settling the 2024 Eurobond

00:16:52 Domestic vs International Markets

00:21:38 Pricing of the 2031 Eurobond

00:28:11 Expectations from the Finance Act And Finance Bill 2024

00:30:30 Fixed vs Floating Rates and the FX Market

00:40:33 Ammortizing Feature

00:42:27 Longer-Term Eurobonds from Frontier Markets

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In this episode recorded on 08.02.2024, we are joined by Toddy Thairu - Director and Lead Consultant, Astute Consulting and Zach Munyi - Head of Public Policy, East African Breweries PLC for a discussion about the implications of the 2023 Finance Act amendments on excise duty.

We also cover how Kenya compares to the rest of the East African region, excise duty changes in the Finance Act 2023, and the impact of stamp and excise duty on EABL’s financial performance.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:00 Excise Duty and its Traditional Intention

00:03:50 Kenya vs East Africa

00:04:46 How has Excise Duty impacted EABL?

00:06:49 Excise Duty Changes in the Finance Act 2023

00:30:52 Impact of Stamp and Excise Duty on EABL’s Performance

00:32:54 Medium-Term Revenue Strategy

00:42:10 Minimizing the Impact of Excise Duty

00:45:37 Closing Remarks

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In this episode recorded on 22.01.2024, we are joined by Churchill Ogutu - Economist, IC Group and Julians Amboko - Business Journalist, Nation Media Group for a discussion on the latest IMF report on Kenya.

We also cover the Medium-Term Revenue Strategy (MTRS), broadening the tax base, currency depreciation, and Eurobonds.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:26 Why Does Kenya Need the IMF?

00:05:09 Takeaways From IMF’s Sixth Review Report

00:12:15 Medium-Term Revenue Strategy and the Finance Act 2024

00:17:24 Augmentation of Existing IMF Programs

00:23:47 Extended Credit Facility (ECF) Extended Fund Facility (EFF), And Resilience And Sustainability Facility (RSF

00:26:03 Broadening The Tax Base and Fiscal Consolidation

00:36:52 Treasury Single Account, Appropriation Bill, and Appropriation Act

00:41:16 Currency Depreciation and Special Drawing Rights

00:53:32 Consumption Tax, Refinancing, and Eurobonds

01:02:38 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 19.12.2023, we are joined by the Kenya Power team of Rosemary Oduor - GM, Commercial Services & Sales and Raphael Ndolo - Ag. GM, Network Management to better understand Kenya's electricity value chain.

We also cover electricity generation, power demand, blackouts, IPPs, compensation for damage, and carbon trading.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:07:06 The Electricity Value Chain

00:09:38 Electricity Generation, Power Demand, and Reserve Capacity

00:22:20 Blackouts and Grid Connections

00:28:34 IPPs

00:36:50 Independent Businesses Selling The Excess Power

00:42:56 Power Transmission

00:46:48 Compensation for Damage by Power Surges

00:49:09 Dispatch Merit Order

00:53:26 SLAs

00:56:58 N-1 Contingency, Power Storage, and Load Shedding

01:08:18 Optimal Power, Energy Insecurity, and Carbon Trading

01:19:27 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 20.12.2023, we are joined by Dr. Priscilla Njako - Manager - Competition Authority of Kenya (CAK), Willy Kimani - Director, RETRAK Kenya, and Ishmail Bett - CEO, Association of Kenya Suppliers for an in-depth discussion on buyer power and its potential abuse.

We also cover the role of the Competition Authority of Kenya, the recent KES 1.1B penalty meted out to Carrefour, the sanctity of contracts, and retail trade dispute settlement.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:17 CAK’s Role and Buyer Power

00:08:32 Retail Space in Kenya

00:14:52 Association of Kenya Suppliers

00:17:02 Determination of Buyer Power and its Abuse

00:27:12 Sanctity of Contracts

00:33:48 Dispute Settlement, the Competition Tribunal, and the Carrefour Case

00:54:02 Settlements with CAK and the Carrefour Penalty

01:10:37 Beyond The Penalty

01:18:09 Options Available to an Offending Party

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In this episode recorded on 30.11.2023, we are joined by Ronak Gadhia, Managing Director, Banks at EFG Hermes Kenya, as we take a deep dive into the Kenyan Banks' Q3 2023 results.

We also cover the Kenyan debt situation, subsidiary performance, dividend expectations, and the creation of bad banks to deal with non-performing loans.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:00 Banks’ Q3 2023 Performance

00:06:49 Kenyan Debt

00:10:33 Loan Books, NPLs, and Provisions

00:21:47 Subsidiaries, Acquisitions, and OpEx

00:29:40 Non-Funded Income

00:37:22 Quality of Earnings for Stanbic And StanChart

00:43:42 Dividend Expectations

00:47:07 Good Bank, Bad Bank

00:50:50 NPL Management and Tier 1 Capital

00:51:52 Q4 and Full-Year Outlook

00:58:47 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 22.11.2023 and hosted by Joe Mwaniki, we are joined by Ernest Muriu - Audit Partner, Ernest & Martin Associates and Hakamba Wangwe - Chief Manager eTIMS, KRA for a conversation on the implications of the mandatory eTIMS registration.

We also cover turnover tax registration, exemptions from electronic tax invoices, implications of failing to onboard on eTIMS, and capacity building for KRA staff.

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“If you are working in an environment where you have business-to-business transactions, and if you do not comply, then you become another person's inconvenience. Probably that other person will feel uncomfortable doing business with you because it means then if they do business with you, that's an expenditure or transaction that they cannot be able to account for in their income tax returns.”

“We have provisions for determining when the tax point is, especially for VAT purposes. The tax point is when you either issue an invoice, receive payment, whether fully or partially, whether you've completed the service, or whether you've received a certificate of completion, if you're thinking of maybe a construction service, then whichever comes earlier, that's when you're supposed to declare that invoice. If it takes long to be paid, the law says, once you complete the service, then that's when the tax point applies. And that's when you need to declare it.

“If you are making sales amounting to 5 million in a year, then you are required to register for VAT purposes…For TOT, the turnover tax, your sales should be between Kshs 1 Million and Kshs 25 Million. The rate is 3 percent for turnover tax. It's supposed to be paid based on the total turnover for the previous month multiplied by 3%. That's what you declare in your turnover tax return by the 20th of the next month.”

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:19 What is eTtims?

00:11:12 eTIMS Solutions for Various Taxpayers

00:18:33 Implications of Failing to Onboard on eTIMS

00:25:52 Generating an Electronic Tax Invoice

00:31:43 Other eTIMS Functionalities and Non-VAT Invoices

00:40:13 VAT and Turnover Tax Registration

00:46:52 Exemptions

00:58:17 Compliance Rates and Lessons From TIMS

01:03:02 Trade Facilitation and Capacity Building

01:11:43 Tax Compliance and Small Businesses

01:15:30 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 10.08.2023, we are joined by Tim Staermose - Founder, African Lions Fund as we explore investing in equities in Tanzania. We discuss the structure of the Tanzanian market, finding investors, moving funds across jurisdictions, and the Africa Lions Fund’s performance.

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“The beauty of funds management is that it is very scalable. Those fixed costs don't rise commensurately with the assets under management, they might rise a little bit, but certainly not at the same pace. You might be able to grow your fund 10 or 20-fold before your fixed costs double in many cases.”

“I'm a value investor but what I'm looking for primarily is, good, solid businesses run by honest and competent people. That's number one. And then I'm trying to buy them also at valuations low enough that I think that there's a potential for the valuations to double. So those are the things that attract me, high returns on equity, and competent and honest management.”

“In terms of which markets to be bullish on and which to avoid, there's two factors at work there. There's the fundamentals, and then there's also the valuation. So at what point in the cycle is the economy and the credit cycle and so on? That's important. I like to go to places that are not near the top of the cycle. Where there are some problems, the economy is either bottoming out or turning. But then also the valuations. It's no use going in somewhere where valuations are still very high. So you need both things working together.”

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:23 Investing In Tanzania and Investment Philosophy

00:13:49 Setting Up A Fund In Tax-Neutral Jurisdictions

00:18:24 Structure and Risks in the Tanzanian Market

00:31:08 Investment Criteria

00:35:02 AUM and Costs of Running Sustainable Equity Fund

00:42:41 Activism vs Exiting a Position

00:49:02 Succession Planning, Lock-in Periods, and Allocation

00:53:08 Searching for Data In Africa

00:56:20 Dividend Payments and the Depreciating Shilling

01:04:20 Moving Funds Across Jurisdictions

01:07:25 Macro Perspectives and Undervalued Stocks in the NSE

01:10:48 Tanzanian Banks

01:16:55 Africa Lions Fund’s Performance

01:19:01 Closing Thoughts And Reflections

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In this episode recorded on 17.08.2023, we are joined by James Muraguri - CEO, Institute of Public Finance as we seek to understand Kenya's budget-making process and how to participate in it.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:14 Institute of Public Finance

00:05:45 Overview of the Budget Process

00:23:15 Is The Budget Process Short-Term Oriented?

00:31:42 Tools to Help Citizens Understand And Participate in the Process

00:36:33 Tokenistic Approach to Public Participation

00:39: 41 Macro Outlook

00:42:51 Supplementary Budget

0:44:00 Need for Accountability at the County Level

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In this episode recorded on 28.11.2023, our guest host, Mark Masai, is joined by Florence Nyokabi - MD Human Resources, Stanchart West Africa and Oscar Nganga - Enterprise Sales Manager, SeamlessHR (East Africa) in a conversation on how you can attract the best talent.

We also cover the value of seeking talent globally, automation in recruitment, legal and regulatory challenges in international recruitment, and emerging trends in cross-border recruitment.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:09 Value of Seeking Talent Globally

00:04:39 How SeamlessHR Eases Global Talent Recruitment

00:08:00 Securing Employment In Global Organizations

00:11:07 Automation and the Human Element In Recruitment

00:14:46 Legal Considerations In International Recruitment

00:22:40 Bias In AI

00:26:24 Navigating The Relocation Process

00:34:30 Key Metrics in Data-Driven Hiring Strategies

00:36:26 Dos and Don’ts as a Global Talent or Recruiter

00:42:01 Emerging Trends In Cross-Border Recruitment

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In this episode recorded on 09.11.2023, our guest host, Ramah Nyang, is joined by Wangari Muikia - MD, Expertise Global and Johnson Nderi - Corporate Finance and Advisory Manager, ABC Capital to talk about the state of the Kenyan Economy.

We also discuss planning for 2024, public debt, buying back the 2024 Eurobond and the huge debt service.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:57 Macroeconomic Assumptions in Planning for 2024

00:08:43 Predictable Tax Framework

00:13:08 Public Debt

00:23:11 Eurobond Repayment Extension

00:26:13 2024 Perspective

00:29:15 2024 Eurobond Buyback

00:45:11 Huge Debt Service

00:54:40 Making Equities More Attractive

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In this episode recorded on 13.09.2023, we host Eric Musau - Executive Director, Research at Standard Investment Bank and Ronak Gadhia - Managing Director at EFG Hermes Kenya to dissect Kenyan banks' H1 2023 earnings.

We also cover the banks’ non-performing loans, the forex market, and the future outlook.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:56 High-Level Thoughts on the Results

00:06:20 Loan Books

00:10:18 NPLS

00:24:06 International vs Local Banks

00:29:57 FX Market and Gov’t Securities

00:34:25 Capital Allocation

00:39:43 Eurobond, Credit Rating, and Outlook

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In this episode recorded on 28.09.2023, our guest host, Phares Kariuki - Pure Infrastructure CEO, is joined by Moses Kemibaro - Dotsavvy Founder and CEO, Tim Kipchumba - Questworks Co-Founder, and Kennedy Kachwanya - kachwanya.com Tech Mega Trend Analyst on a conversation about the current startup landscape in Kenya.

We also cover the trajectory of startups in the last two decades, raising money vs generating revenues, building beyond the media hype, and cash-conscious marketing strategies.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:31 Trajectory over the Last Two Decades

00:18:13 Raising Money vs Generating Revenues

00:24:41 Disconnect Between Funding and a Good Investment

00:28:08 The Storytelling Problem

00:42:08 Bad Investments vs Bad Markets

00:54:16 Building Beyond the Media Hype

01:05:25 Challenges in the Fundraising Market

01:15:33 Cash-Conscious Marketing Strategies

01:23:25 Building Resilient Businesses

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In this episode recorded on 03.08.2023, we host Nanjira Sambuli - Fellow, Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, Bright Mawudor - Founder, AfricaHackOn, and Tyrus Kamau - a cybersecurity consultant to explore Kenya's cybersecurity posture.

We also cover the recent DDoS attacks that paralyzed critical infrastructure, the role of various institutions in cybersecurity, and the basic steps individuals should take in protecting themselves against cyber attacks.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:00 Is Kenya Ready?

00:09:48 DDoS Attacks and Paralyzed Critical Infrastructure

00:22:54 Availablity of Tech Talent

00:32:40 Securing Government Infrastructure

00:36:40 Legislature’s Role

00:45:44 Way Forward for Kenya

00:51:10 Recommendations for the Private Sector

01:01:17 Media’s Role

01:07:59 Steps In Protecting Against Cybersecurity Threats

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In this episode recorded on 05.09.2023 and hosted by Rhina Namsia, we are joined by Tom Coleman - Informa Markets’ Exhibition Director and Cynthia Makarutse - Informa Markets’ Conference Director on a discussion about Medic East Africa, redefining healthcare delivery in the region, and the upcoming Healthcare East Africa 2.0 Summit.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:36 East Africa’s Healthcare Overview

00:04:17 Technology and Emerging Trends

00:07:07 The Healthcare East Africa 2.0 Summit

00:10:45 What to Look Forward to

00:12:57 Informa Markets’ Role

00:15:47 Summit Details

00:18:01 Advice for Those Joining Healthcare

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In this episode recorded on 28.07.2023, we host the Centum Group CEO, Dr. James Mworia, to discuss the Group’s FY 2023 results. We also cover capital allocation, the Two Rivers’ pivot, payroll lending through Jafari, and opportunities in the current economic environment.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:49 ESG Report

00:02:03 Centum’s Businesses

00:07:18 2023 Financial Performance

00:10:14 Two Rivers’ Pivot

00:15:29 FY ‘22 Financial Statements Restatement

00:23:24 Dividends and Share Buybacks

00:28:31 Payroll Lending, NPLs, and the Finance Act

00:40:07 Current Focus

00:46:30 Opportunities in the Current Environment

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In this episode recorded on 21.06.2023, we host Dorcas Mugambi, the Head of Trade Finance at Co-operative Bank, to discuss the business financing solutions that the bank offers, requirements to qualify for trade financing, challenges faced in accessing financing, and the sectors that the bank covers.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:19 Trade Financing Solutions

00:12:07 Export/Import Business Solutions

00:17:38 Challenges Accessing Trade Financing

00:25:06 Banking Right

00:30:02 Sectors Covered

00:36:28 Collateral

00:39:32 Default Rates

00:44:09 Financing Requirements

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In this episode recorded on 04.05.2023, we hosted the WPP-Scangroup CEO, Patricia Ithau, to discuss her career journey and the lessons she has picked.

We also covered WPP-Scangroup’s business model and performance, sourcing new clients, measuring campaign performance, and staying relevant in the age of social influencers.

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00:58:00 Career Journey and Lessons Learned

00:16:49 WPP-Scangroup’s Business Model

00:22:57 Market Share, Competition, and Sourcing New Clients

00:26:04 Measuring Metrics

00:30:58 Company Performance and Areas Of Growth

00:39:48 Analysis Paralysis and the Plan for W. African Markets

00:44:54 Influencers Value

00:47:05 Brand-Defining Categories

00:50:52 Staying Relevant in the Age of Social Influencers

00:57:34 Thoughts on Share Buybacks and Delisting

01:04:03 Advice to Young People and Closing Thoughts

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In this episode, we host Lawrence Kimathi, Kenya Commercial Bank’s Group CFO, to discuss the Group’s Q1 2023 financial results. We cover the 98% increase in loan loss provisions, deceleration in investment in government securities, the performance of the Group’s subsidiaries, and the Group’s Q2 outlook.

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00:00:00 Highlights

00:01:08 Loan Loss Provisions

00:02:58 Non-Performing Loans

00:05:21 Investment in Government Securities

00:06:54 Risk-Based Pricing

00:07:19 Performance of Subsidiaries

00:08:36 Statutory Loan Loss Reserves

00:09:41 NBK and Q2 Outlook

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In this episode recorded on 20.04.2023, we hosted Jackson Muli, the principal officer at Kenya Orient Life Assurance, to discuss the company’s business and future prospects.

We also covered the basics of insurance and assurance, the implementation of the new NSSF Act, the impact of IFRS 17 on the insurance business, and investments.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:30 Insurance vs Assurance

00:05:39 Insurance Industry Players

00:12:53 Growth Strategy

00:15:12 Jackson’s Career Journey

00:17:21 Challenges and Opportunities

00:28:20 NSSF Act Implementation

00:35:30 IFRS 17's Impact

00:38:58 Claims Settlement and Eligibility for Cover

00:46:10 Getting into the Insurance Industry

00:47:28 Revenue Generation and Investments

00:53:41 Future Outlook and Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 27.04.2023, we host Mark Bohlund, Senior Credit Research Analyst at REDD Intelligence, to discuss Kenya's rising Eurobond yields and the impact on Kenya's bid to raise a Eurobond next year.

We also cover the sell-off in the market, the likelihood of defaulting on the upcoming Eurobond payment, and strategies for managing maturing Eurobonds.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:54 Eurobonds

00:05:09 Taping into The Eurobond Market

00:06:21 Rising Yields on the Kenya Eurobond

00:09:55 Drivers for Market Sell-Off

00:11:28 Managing Maturing Eurobonds

00:18:47 Likelihood Of Default

00:24:16 Challenges in Borrowing in the Domestic Market

00:30:39 Tanzania Getting into the Bond Market

00:38:53 Uganda's Domestic Market

00:43:41 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 29.03.2023, we are joined by the Stima Sacco CEO Dr. Hassan Gamaliel and Customer Service Manager Gloria Chaponda to discuss the Sacco’s business model. We also cover joining the Sacco, its scale and solvency, system changes, and handling the resulting challenges.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:13 History

00:04:41 Size and Scale

00:13:06 System Changes and Communication Issues

00:32:28 Solvency

00:40:50 Becoming A Member

00:46:18 Islamic Finance Products

00:52:29 Business Model

01:07:56 Transferability of Shares

01:15:07 CEO’s Career Journey

01:23:50 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 23.02.2023, we are joined by Wambui Mbarire - RETRAK Kenya CEO, Job Wanjohi - KAM Head of Policy Research and Advocacy, Robert Waruiru - ICHIBAN Tax Advisory Founder, and Frida Mbugua - EABL Head of Public Policy. we discuss the impact of rising excise duties.

We cover the origin of excise duty, why KRA is falling short on excise stamp sales, the importance of tax regime predictability, and public participation in tax proposals.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:06:07 Excise Duty, Origin, and Importance

00:15:55 Why Is KRA Falling Short On Excise Stamp Sales?

00:22:02 Impact of Increasing Stamp Prices on Retailers

00:28:22 Handling Public Tax Proposals

00:33:25 Tax Regime Predictability

00:36:28 Impact On Farmers, Health, and Citizens’ Wellbeing

00:51:15 Inflation Adjustment and Public Participation

00:58:42 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode recorded on 06.03.2023, we host the East African Breweries PLC Group Chief Financial Officer Risper Ohaga to discuss the journey to becoming a CFO. We cover what makes a successful CFO, mentors, getting the right team, and handling uncertainties.

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00:00:00 Risper’s Career Journey

00:20:21 CFO vs CEO Role

00:22:56 What Makes a Successful CFO?

00:24:18 Getting the Right Team

00:29:48 Corporate culture in Various Countries

00:32:05 Book Recommendations and Personal Interests

00:36:21 The Kenyan Economy

00:37:49 Handling Uncertainties

00:42:12 Mentors, Staying Knowledgeable, and Closing Thoughts

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In this episode hosted by Joy Doreen Biira, we are joined by Ade Yesufu and Maisam Rattansi from Middle East Energy to discuss East Africa's energy transition. We talk about the uptake of renewable energy solutions in the region, sustainability, and the Middle East Energy 2023 conference in Dubai that brought together energy leaders and experts to debate and shape the future of energy.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:50 Uptake of Renewable Energy in East Africa

00:08:57 Middle East's Investments and Lessons for Africa

00:11:06 Harnessing the potential of renewable energy solutions

00:14:26 Middle East Energy Conference - Solutions, Exhibitors, and Benefits

00:31:28 Future Energy Outlook in the Middle East and Africa

00:34:41 Intersolar Conference and CEOs Forum

00:41:10 Sustainability

00:43:59 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode, we host Standard Investment Bank’s Executive Director Nahashon Mungai to discuss the company’s flagship product, MansaX. We also cover risk, portfolio rebalancing, managing losses, and the global economic outlook.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:00 SIB’s History

00:04:36 Nahashon’s Career Journey

00:09:00 MansaX

00:16:20 Investing, Returns, Fees, and Risk

00:24:15 The Team

00:27:40 Typical Day Managing a Portfolio

00:30:41 Managing Losses and Taxation

00:48:14 5-Year Plan and Global Macroeconomic Outlook

01:01:59 Withdrawal Process

01:05:15 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode, we host the Car and General CEO Vijay Gidoomal to discuss the firm’s FY ‘22 results, the impact of demurrage charges on its profitability, and expectations for FY ‘23. We also cover the forex challenges and availability of dollars, capital allocation and dividend payout, and EV infrastructure in Kenya.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:32 FY ‘22 Results

00:14:55 Access to Dollars and Impact of Demurrage

00:19:24 Watu Holding

00:23:29 Property Investment

00:29:12 Capital Allocation

00:36:50 Cargen TechUp Program

00:38:44 EV Infrastructure in Kenya

00:44:43 FY ‘23 Expectations

00:51:53 Debt Composition and Taxation Challenges

01:15:24 Working with Start-ups

01:17:36 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode, we host Cytonn Investments’ CEO, Edwin Dande, to discuss the court’s recent liquidation and preservation orders on the CHYS and CPN funds. We also cover real estate project financing and the order of cashflows, what went wrong with their model, and the options available to investors going forward.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:23 Overview of Cytonn’s Current Status

00:01:50 Court’s Decision on CHYS and CPN Funds

00:05:21 Cytonn’s Response to the Decision

00:08:48 Liquidation vs Restructuring

00:11:51 Project Financiers and Order of Cashflows

00:17:29 What Went Wrong?

00:21:19 Inspiration for Cytonn’s Real Estate Projects

00:23:03 Message to Investors and Way Forward

00:29:23 Closing Thoughts

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In this episode, we host Centum CEO James Mworia to discuss their decision to put aside their plan to sell their shares in Sidian Bank to Nigeria's Access Bank. He also provides an update on the Centum Share buyback program and an outlook for Centum going forward.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:00:23 What Went Wrong?

00:05:02 What next for Sidian?

00:10:02 Update on the Share Buyback Plan

00:14:41 What next for Centum?

00:16:11 Conclusion

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In this episode co-hosted by Alex Mwanzo, we host the KenGen team of Auma Nyambala - Business Process Improvement Manager, David Muthike - GM Strategy and Innovation, Paul Wambugu - Innovation Manager, and FrankDavidPR - Communications Manager to discuss the firm’s business.

We also cover KenGen’s move to electric vehicles, renewable energy, green infrastructure, and the firm’s future outlook.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:51 KenGen's business and relationship with Kenya Power

00:08:55 Clean, renewable energy

00:11:52 Move to EVs

00:21:09 Mass electrification and grid stability

00:41:05 Policy to accelerate EV adoption

00:47:31 KenGen’s 2023 guideline

00:54:09 Green financing

00:57:21 Charging infrastructure

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In this episode hosted by Joy Doreen Biira, we are joined by Leonard Kareko, MD Dow Chemicals EA, to discuss science, innovation, and collaboration for universal well-being.

We also discuss promising technology advancements across Africa, merging the circular economy with sustainability, and Dow Chemicals’ future outlook.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:13 Dow Chemicals

00:08:08 Promising innovations across Africa

00:16:40 Plastic waste

00:26:46 Merging the circular economy with sustainability

00:35:25 Market peculiarities

00:37:08 The sustainability agenda

00:42:47 The future of technology

01:01:39 Future outlook

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In this episode hosted by Mark Masai, we are joined by Deji Lana, CTO and Co-Founder at SeamlessHR, and Chelagat Muigei, Chief Growth Officer at YusudiAfrica, to discuss the intersection of the HR function and tech.

We also discuss outsourced vs internal HR services, automating the HR process, and managing a remote workforce.

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00:00:00: Introduction

00:02:39: Seamless HR and Yusudi Africa

00:10:23: Africa’s tech market

00:14:21: Benefits of automating HR processes

00:25:55: Africa’s future

00:35:22: On whose side is HR?

00:38:27: Outsourced vs internal HR services

00:45:05: Managing a remote workforce

00:40:51: Lessons as a co-founder

00:54:00: Get the right team for a tech start-up

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In this episode hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by Prof. XN Iraki - Economist at the University of Nairobi, Dr Lucy Muthoni - Mathematics and Actuarial Science Senior Lecturer at Strathmore University, Dickson Magecha - Executive Director, Africa FX Trading at Standard Chartered Bank DIFC, and Ken Opalo - Political Scientist at Georgetown University's Walsh School of Foreign Service to discuss subsidies and their effectiveness.

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00:01:40 What are subsidies?

00:04:01 Effectiveness of subsidies

00:09:14 Govt’s resistance to cutting taxes

00:13:11 Make agricultural subsidies effective

00:28:15 Tax burden created by subsidies

00:37:28 Making Kenyan farmers competitive

00:45:53 Expanding the tax base

00:53:09 Structures to ensure that subsidies work

01:00:19 Restructuring local debt

01:08:54 Tax policy

01:16:47 Warehouse receipt systems

01:21:53 Translate research ideas into viable market solutions

01:29:38 Closing remarks

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we are joined by Solomon Kariuki - Research Analyst at AIB-AXYS Africa and Ronak Gadhia - Director, Frontier Banks at EFG Hermes as we look at Kenyan banks' first half of 2022 results.

We also discuss the key aspects of bank financials to pay attention to, the aggressive expansion by banks across the region, the implementation of the risk-based lending model, and banks’ poor performance in Tanzania and South Sudan.

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00:01:58 Becoming an analyst

00:04:01 Bank financial statements and business models

00:14:41 Non-performing loans (NPLs)

00:27:28 StanChart's growth in loans and advances

00:31:34 Aggressive expansion across the region

00:43:15 Investment in government securities

00:48:23 Risk-based lending

00:50:55 Fair value losses

00:57:40 Dividend payouts

01:04:36 Privatizing poorly performing government-owned banks

01:06:12 Poor performance in Tanzania and South Sudan

01:09:57 H2 ‘22 outlook

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode in partnership with EFG Hermes Kenya and hosted by Joy Doreen Biira, we are joined by Lilian Olubi - EFG Hermes Nigeria CEO, Diane Karusisi - Bank of Kigali CEO, Phyllis Wakiaga - Industrialization Expert, and Rosie Ngure - Sustainability, ESG, and Impact Independent Consultant.

We talk about women making money moves in business. We also discuss the journey to the top, challenges that women face in pursuit of excellence, the gender pay gap, and opportunities available in business and finance.

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00:07:13 Is being referred to as ‘women in business’ condescending?

00:15:34 The journey to the top

00:47:24 Building a career + challenges women face

01:15:28 Handling disrespect in the workplace

01:20:43 Gender pay gap

01:25:15 Unconscious biases

01:26:51 Driving organizational culture

01:30:22 Opportunities available in business and finance

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we are joined by Adam Fitz - Regional Manager Camco Clean Energy, George Aluru - Chairperson ESAK and MD Ecoener Kenya, and Abubakar Ali - CFO Gulf Power to discuss Independent Power Producers (IPPs). We also discuss the key players in Kenya’s power sector, setting up and funding of IPP projects, as well as the future of the energy sector.

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00:02:40 Kenya’s power sector + key players

00:09:15 Setting up an IPP in Kenya

00:19:13 Funding of IPP projects

00:22:14 Impact of currency and policy on IPP projects

00:24:02 Tariffs

00:34:05 Kenya Power challenges

00:56:19 Capacity payment model and the future of the energy sector

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we are joined by Charlie Robertson - Global Chief Economist at Renaissance Capital, and Martin Mwirigi - Sovereign Debt Analyst at Standard Investment Bank to discuss Eurobonds. We also discuss how to invest in Eurobonds, the process of issuing a Eurobond by a country, and the crowding-out effect of the Governments’ local borrowing.

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00:00:00 Defining Eurobonds and Kenya's participation

00:08:14 Eurobonds across Africa

00:16:37 Investing in bonds in Kenya

00:23:51 The bond issuance process

00:35:38 Demand for Eurobonds in the Kenyan market

00:49:08 Ghana’s situation

00:54:24 Policy implications and crowding out

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by NCBA Bank CEO and Kenya Bankers Association Chairman, John Gachora, on a discussion on the dollar shortage the country is currently facing. Mucai Kunyiha, Chairman of the Kenya Association of Manufacturers, also joins us to share the perspective of manufacturers who have raised concerns about the unavailability of dollars.

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00:01:30 Is there a dollar shortage?

00:03:47 Price discovery

00:12:18 Speculative accumulation of dollars

00:17:44 Net foreign assets andcapital flight

00:22:41 How do we fix the shortage?

00:30:38 Raising interest rates

00:40:21 Supply of dollars by CBK

00:50:55 Inflation

00:53:46 Impact on manufacturers

01:02:20 Balance of payment problem

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host Centum CEO James Mworia to discuss the firm’s sale of its 83.4% stake in Sidian Bank to Access Bank. We discuss the performance of the investment, what informed the exit, Centum’s capital allocation strategy, the depressed share price, and GEM’s investment in Centum RE.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:13 Investment, performance, and exit from Sidian Bank

00:19:35 Capital allocation and bonuses

00:28:24 Future acquisitions and share buybacks

00:36:09 GEM’s investment in Centum RE

00:39:13 Dividend policy

00:41:54 Marketable securities and Centum’s NAV

00:45:19 Other businesses

00:48:34 The macro environment

00:56:32 Real estate and renewable energy

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host Geoffrey Odundo - CEO at the NSE, Tim Staermose - Founder African Lions Fund, Kevin Ngige - Equities trader at Genghis Capital, and Johnson Nderi - Corporate Finance & Advisory at ABC Capital on a discussion on how to revitalize the NSE. We also cover the performance of the Kenyan capital markets, the investors’ calendar, NSE’s training programs, and high trading fees at the bourse.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:07:30 Key players in the Kenyan capital markets

00:11:05 Role of NSE, CMA, and CDSC

00:17:11 The Tanzanian capital markets

00:19:38 East African vs Australian capital markets

00:22:54 Performance of the Kenyan capital market

00:39:42 Trading fees

00:44:43 Investors calendar, NSE training, and reporting of earnings

00:56:49 Retail bonds

01:08:14 Enforcement of regulations

01:24:15 Impact of policy

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, in partnership with Market Map, we are joined by Sunil Sanger - MD Orion Advisory Services, Churchill Ogutu - Economist IC Group, and Kasiva Mutisya - Fixed Income Analyst as we deep dive into the East African bond markets. We discuss the details of investing in a government bond, trading in the secondary market, M-Akiba, and the impact of inflation on the bond market.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:04:37 Bonds

00:07:59 Infrastructure bonds

00:08:53 Investing

00:14:54 Bidding

00:16:35 Other markets

00:25:59: M-Akiba

00:29:33 Corporate bonds

00:37:03 Amortization

00:42:48: Definition of terms

00:46:34 Clean vs dirty price

00:57:58 The secondary market

01:01:54 Impact of inflation on the bond market

01:08:00 Encumbered outstanding amount

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, our host, Soud Hyder, is joined by Phares Kariuki - CEO Pure Infrastructure Limited, Eunice Kariuki - ICT Consultant, Wayne Gakuo - Google Developer Expert for Angular, and Conrad Akunga - Founder Innova, to discuss the scramble for tech talent in light of the arrival of Microsoft, Google, and Visa in Kenya.

We also discuss the role of policy in talent retention, the place of self-taught developers in the tech ecosystem, stock compensation, and the need for collaboration among tech stakeholders.

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00:00:00: Introduction

00:02:23: Tech evolution in Kenya

00:22:29: Tech talent shortage

00:29:53: Role of policy

00:38:48: An SME’s perspective

00:44:00: A developer’s perspective

00:54:28: Self-taught developers

01:06:39: Tech talent in the gig economy

01:08:43: Collaboration among tech stakeholders

01:22:11: Demand for software skills and skills drain

01:24:22: Binding work contracts

01:30:01: Andela effect

01:33:13: Stock compensation and valuations

01:30:03: Expectations for the next administration

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we dive deep into Safaricom’s FY 2022 results. We are joined by Silha Rasugu - Associate VP at EFG Hermes, Lisa Kimathi - Senior Associate at Standard Investment Bank, Kalkidan Mulugeta - CoFounder & Commercial Lead at ClearSkies Technology, and Willis Owiti - an engineer and self-taught financial analyst.

We also discuss Safaricom’s entry into Ethiopia, its peers operating in multiple geographies, its competitive advantage in the local market, and the possibility and implications of an M-Pesa spin-off.

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00:00:00: Introduction

00:04:20: Safaricom’s business model and segments

00:06:04: FY 2022 results

00:09:50: Entry into Ethiopia

00:17:14: Safaricom vs peers

00:23:18: Product stickiness and competitive advantage

00:26:34: M-Pesa spin-off, risks, and opportunities in Ethiopia

00:40:10: M-Pesa valuation and setting up a reliable network in Ethiopia

00:46:55: Opportunities in the East African community

00:55:17: M-Pesa regulation

01:00:05: 2G, 3G, 4G, and 5G network

01:08:57: Challenges posed by big tech

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we are joined by investigative journalist David Hundeyin to discuss his exposé; Flutterwave: The African Unicorn Built On Quicksand. We also discuss his career background, protection of sources, and holding companies accountable.

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00:00:00: Introduction

00:03:28: Career background

00:14:06: Genesis of the Flutterwave story

00:25:30: Key issues raised

00:51:47: Flutterwave’s PR strategy

01:05:21: Holding tech companies accountable

01:16:49: Motivation for the expose

01:25:21: Is Flutterwave business model sustainable?

01:30:41: Low expectations and poor governance

01:32:30: Main character syndrome

01:36:00: Protecting sources and giving credible information

01:39:32: Insider trading

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode of Mwango Uncensored held in conjunction with Africa Uncensored, we host International Budget Partnership Country Manager Dr. Abraham Rugo and Economist and University Lecturer Tony Gitonga on a discussion on understanding inflation. We also cover taxation, economic policy coordination, and managing the current economic challenges.

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00:00:00: Introduction

00:01:35: What is inflation?

00:04:29: Consumer Price Index

00:08:25: Impact of inflation on the ordinary citizen

00:12:31: Contagion effect

00:22:53: Policies to tame inflation

00:28:00: Taxation and policy coordination

00:41:58: Economic policies in the Kibaki administration vs the current administration

00:49:48: Policies to manage the current economic challenges

01:02:18: Economic and political ideology

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we dive deep into the FY 2021 BK Group earnings with CFO Nathalie Mpaka.

We also discuss the Bank's tech strategy and positioning in the digital space with Chief Digital Officer Obinna Ukwuani.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:50 Role of a CFO

00:07:29 Role of the Chief Digital Officer

00:09:11 Digital transformation

00:10:59 Time management

00:13:35 FY21 results

00:22:15 BK Group's digital strategy

00:23:15 Digital money in Rwanda

00:24:19 Disruption by fintech

00:27:47 Overview of a bank's balance sheet

00:36:05 Acquisition and collaboration in BK Group’s digital strategy

00:37:10 Cashless economy

00:38:02 Trends in digital banking and currencies

00:41:13 Fintech valuations

00:46:28 KCB’s acquisition of BPR

00:52:01 Cross-listing in Rwanda and the NSE

00:55:51 Digital team measure of success and working with SMEs

00:58:38 Dividend reinvestment plan

00:59:25 Career advice

01:01:11 Five-year outlook

01:05:35 Closing thoughts

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode hosted by Ramah Nyang, we are joined by IEA Kenya CEO Kwame Owino, KeBudgetTalk Co-Founder Jossie Nyamai, Phoebe Njoga - Manager at Andersen, and Nikhil Hira - Partner at Kody Africa LLP.

We break down the 2022/23 budget and hold in-depth discussions on the unresolved supplier debt situation, the shilling depreciating against the dollar, the national tax policy and quality of policymaking in Kenya, and the performance of legislators with respect to government spending.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:02:41 Supplier debt

00:09:43: Tax cuts

00:11:12: Laffer curve

00:15:53: National tax policy

00:21:21: Tax disputes

00:27:46: Quality of policymaking

00:29:24: Petroleum development fund

00:33:41: Is there room for changes in tax policy?

00:42:13: County-level taxes

00:50:25: Cutting down on expenditure

00:52:56: ‘Kazi Mtaani’ program

00:56:49: Taxing diaspora remittances

00:59:44: Budget allocation to counties

01:02:43: Effects of a depreciating shilling

01:08:44: Is the media doing enough?

01:19:17: Rebranding KRA

01:24:12: Performance of legislators wrt government spending

01:32:00: Tax incentives on donations and the 60-day cycle in tax disputes

01:34:16: Closing remarks

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host the Car and General CEO Vijay Gidoomal on a discussion about the NSE-listed firm's beginnings, its current business ventures, and its outlook on the future.

We also discuss the factors the company considers before entering a market, its recently launched helmet-manufacturing business, the move towards e-vehicles, and the protracted tax dispute with KRA.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:01:13 Role as CEO

00:02:33 C&G's evolution and business model

00:07:03 Maret entry and exit considerations

00:12:57 Business segments

00:15:44 Helmet manufacturing

00:28:13 Competition and franchising structures

00:33:00 E-vehicles, poultry, and real estate businesses

00:38:47 Tax dispute with KRA

00:39:56 Futureoutlook

00:44:22 Being a good CEO

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode hosted by Janet Machuka and Kwame Owino, we are joined by Boniface Kamiti and Mugambi M'Mutegi from the Competition Authority of Kenya and Alice Kemunto, the Executive Director at the Consumer Grassroots Association.

We discuss the challenges faced in consumer rights protection, the role of the Competition Authority in the protection of consumer rights, how to access CAK services, and the role of digital finance in regard to consumer rights.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:07:00 Laws and legal instruments that provide for consumer rights

00:11:05 Challenges in consumer rights protection

00:17:13 Role of CAK in consumer rights protection

00:24:19 Access to CAK services

00:27:00 Role of digital finance in regard to consumer rights

00:46:59 Internet connectivity in Kenya

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we are joined by EFG Hermes’ Managing Director - Head of Frontier Research Kato Mukuru and Associate VP - Utilities, Telcom, Oil, and Gas Silha Rasugu. We discuss banks’ performance in Sub-Saharan Africa, trends in mobile money, and regulation of digital money in Africa.

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00:00:00: Introduction

00:00:58: What it takes to be an analyst

00:02:55: EFG Hermes’ business structure

00: 04:51: SSA banks’ performance

00:07:00: Trends in mobile money and digital money regulation

00:17:38: How banks make money

00:22:03: Banks’ huge profits and their loan provisions

00:29:13: Desegregation of mobile money and telcos

00:36:30: Fintechs

00:43:32: Outlook on banks and key analysis ratios

00:48:41: Bank regulations across Africa

00:54:07: Risk-based lending

00:56:13: Trends in fintech, mobile money, and neo-banks

00:59:38: Working at EFG Hermes

01:04:24: Resources and book recommendations

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host Equiti Brokerage CEO Brian Myers for a deep dive on online trading and opportunities available in Kenya and global markets. We also discuss financial literacy, how to start out in investing, and the gender gap in investing.

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Show Notes

[00:00:00] Introduction

[00:02:06] FXPesa and EGM Securities

[00:04:27] Role of a broker

[00:08:09] FXPesa’s product offering

[00:11:17] Onboarding process

[00:12:11] Online trading in Kenya and globally

[00:19:04] Opportunities in the global vs local markets

[00:22:08] Financial literacy

[00:27:27] Challenges traders face

[00:38:12] Regaining trust in the markets

[00:45:52] Derivative market

[00:47:57] Bridging the gender gap in investment

[00:52:10] Advice on starting out in investing

[00:57:26] Hiring process at FXPesa

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode of Mwango Uncensored, we host a rich panel of guests as we get a fresh perspective of the Kenya we want in conjunction with Africa Uncensored. We are joined by Nanjira and Nanjala Nyabola in a discussion that includes a look at Kenya since the promulgation of a new constitution a decade ago, devolution and its effects, the forthcoming Kenyan elections, and the role of media in all this.

The session is co-hosted by John-Allan Namu and Soud Hyder.

Show Notes

[00:00:00] Introduction

[00:06:00] Hope for Kenya in light of political consciousness

[00:12:12] A decade of the new constitution

[00:20:57] Was the Kenyan Constitution inclusive?

[00:27:38] Identity formation and access to digital tools

[00:32:59] Trends in the democratic space

[00:42:24] Kenyan elections and effects of technology

[00:47:20] State of the Kenyan opposition

[00:58:25] Are we too divided and defeated to move forward?

[01:05:51] Tools available for young Kenyans wanting to stand up and fight for the future they want

[01:11:34] The role of the media

[01:18:50] In whose hands is Kenya safe?

[01:21:50] Developing ideologies and a functioning democracy

[01:30:57] Countries can we borrow from in nation-building

[01:34:09] Tech and business

[01:37:40] If you had the powers to change Kenya, what would you do?

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host Jubilee Insurance CEO Julius Kipngetich and his team to talk all about the company’s life insurance product offerings, the onboarding to claiming process, and the benefits of each product. We also discuss insurance penetration in Kenya, investment and capital allocation strategies, and the role of insurance agents.

Show Notes

[00:00:00] Introduction

[00:02:38] Partnership with Allianz

[00:05:19] General vs life insurance

[00:07:40] Basics of life insurance

[00:18:20] Annuities

[00:26:48] Premiums

[00:32:30] Claims process

[00:39:12] Pension plans

[00:43:19] Investment strategy

[00:50:35] Capital allocation

[00:51:40] Insurance penetration

[01:01:28] Health insurance

[01:10:48] Dead assets and optimal capital deployment

[01:16:27] Education policies

[01:30:19] Insurance agents

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host Cytonn Investments CEO Edwin H. Dande for a deep dive into the history, business model, and future of Cytonn. We discuss asset-liability mismatch, the state of the Kenyan capital market, and the funding and completion of the firm’s projects.

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Show Notes

[00:01:17] - Edwin’s career and founding Cytonn

[00:05:48] - Lessons from the global financial crisis

[00:08:45] - Role as Cytonn’s CEO

[00:10:30] - Business model, challenges, and asset-liability mismatch

[00:21:01] - Product roadmap, regulated vs unregulated products

[00:34:36] - State of funds under administration

[00:48:10] - Will Cytonn survive?

[00:51:15] - Unit Trust performance

[00:56:22] - Reform strategies, liquidity, and disgruntled investors

[01:14:06] - Skin in the game and funding completion of projects

[01:32:33] - The future of Cytonn

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host Samuel Kariuki, Centum Real Estate’s Managing Director, and Fred Murimi, the Managing Partner at Centum Capital Partners, to discuss Centum Real Estate’s business model and objectives, its projects, and the KES 17B investment commitment from GEM.

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Show Notes

[00:03:13] - Introduction

[00:06:13] - Centum Capital Partners and Centum’s capital structure

[00:08:27] - Cash generation, raising project capital, and value addition metrics

[00:24:52] - GEM (Growth Enterprise Markets)

[00:28:40] - NAV/Price Gap

[00:40:40] - 2022 outlook

[00:51:27] - Optimal financing structure

[00:55:37] - Business model and objectives

[01:02:30] - Real estate pertinent risks

[01:10:43] - The Ugandan market

[01:12:14] - Cash payments vs mortgage

[01:15:13] - REITS

[01:16:37] - Working at Centum

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

A shortage of potatoes at KFC Kenya due to delayed imports raised a furore amongst Kenyans online. In this episode, we discuss the issue at length, look at building local supply chains, and explore policy issues and implementation of market standards in agriculture.

We are joined by Linda Achan, Kathambi Kaaria, Mohammed Hersi, Leonard Mudachi, Asif Khan, and cohost Ramah Nyang.

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Show Notes

[00:07:52] - Exploring potato standards and building local supply chains

[00:20:31] - Food sovereignty, carbon footprint, and traceability

[00:26:11] - Policy issues

[00:33:48] - Ando Foods

[00:39:30] - Imports’ impact on employment levels

[00:44:24] - Potato market in the UK

[00:47:42] - Carbon taxes on exports

[00:48:56] - Building regional supply chains

[00:56:11] - Supply-demand mismatch

[01:06:25] - Intellectual property

[01:11:41] -Total market layout and market size opportunity in packaging

[01:16:54] - Access to capital in the food industry

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host Kwame Owino(IEA Kenya), June Odongo (Senga), Kevin Ngige (Genghis Capital), and Reuben Wambui (UNEP FI) in a review of 2021.

We cover the major trends during the year from a small business, financial markets, and macro-economic perspective. The guests share their reflections and greatest lessons from the past year and offer an outlook into 2022.

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Show Notes

[00:03:03] - Kenyan financial markets

[00: 11:36] - Share buybacks

[00:16:10] - Trends in small businesses

[00:23:59] - Mistakes, reflections, and best practices in small businesses

[00:35:56] - Macroeconomic environment

[00:46:54] - Financial markets outlook

[00:54:27] - Vaccination, currency adjustment, and economic growth

[00:57:48] - Small businesses 2022 outlook

[01:06:28] - ESGs

[01:11:41] - Personal lessons and book recommendations

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host the Competition Authority of Kenya’s Director-General Wang’ombe KariukI, MBS on a discussion on the role of the authority, implications of market dominance, regulations in the digital lending space, and the conditions necessary for mergers and acquisitions.

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Show Notes

[00:00:51] - CAK’s role

[00:03:14] - The Director-General’s professional background and role

[00:07:32] - CAK’s recent interventions

[00:14:54] - Cost of living

[00:19:49] - Concurrent jurisdiction and regulatory competition

[00:24:59] - Interventions in the retail and insurance sectors

[00:30:27] - Market dominance and competition law challenges

[00:36:56] - Digital borrowing

[00:40:28] - Regulation of parastatals

[00:44:29] - Regulatory obstacles in professional services

[00:48:46] - Mergers and acquisitions

[00:52:21] - Violation, fines, and lodging complaints

[00:57:30] - Free Trade Areas and collaboration with competition agencies in the region

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host Centum PLC’s CEO Dr. James Mworia on a discussion about the company’s HY 2021/2022 results. We also cover the company’s business model, the performance of its subsidiaries, capital allocation, and its current Centum 4.0 strategy.

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[00:01:45] - Half-year results highlights

[00:03:08] - Business model

[00:05:45] - Income statement

[00:07:15] - Portfolio

[00:08:31] - Valuation

[00:12:39] - Sidian Bank and Longhorn Publishers

[00:17:25] - Dividend policy and share buybacks

[00:21:54] - Shareholding and share price movement

[00:26:15] - Impact of Dr. Chris Kirubi’s loss on the firm

[00:27:16] - The Two Rivers project

[00:31:42] - Tech advancement and effects of Covid-19

[00:33:53] - Debt reduction, restructuring, and sustainability

[00:41:22] - Conflict of interest in projects

[00:44:03] - Nurturing talent

[00:45:37] - Akiira Geothermal Ltd

[00:46:10] - 2022 outlook

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we are joined by Ramah Nyang', John-Allan Namu, Klaire Muriithi, Rosebell Kagumire, and Wanjala Were on a discussion on the disruption happening in the media space in Africa.

The panel tackles in-depth trends in the media industry, advertising vs subscription revenue models, micro-influencing, and how to build engagement and retain an audience.

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Show Notes

[00:05:07] - Key trends disrupting the media industry

[00:19:09] - Funding, value proposition, and pricing of products

[00:35:22] - Dealing with failure

[00:39:51] - Building engagement and retaining an audience

[00:46:30] - Advertising revenue vs subscription revenue

[00:53:29] - Dealing with violent extremism and terrorism in Africa

[00:57:32] - Micro-influencers

[01:07:56] - Disinformation

[01:18:26] - Podcasts in the Kenyan media space

[01:21:11] - Preparing for elections

[01:29:58] - Packaging content

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host I&M Bank Limited Kenya’s CEO Kihara Mainaon discussions ranging from his educational and career background, the bank’s approach to mergers and acquisitions, and his thoughts on fintech and the adoption of blockchain technology.

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host NTV Kenya’s Business Editor Julians Ambokoon a discussion about hosting the instructive Business Redefined and CFO Chat shows, his transition from financial advisory to business journalism, and his most memorable interviewing moments and learnings from his career.

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host BK Group’s CFO Nathalie Mpakaon a discussion about the Group’s Q3 2021 results. She also offers a great primer on understanding a bank’s financials, tips from her career as a seasoned CFO, and experiences around cross-listing on the NSE and the shelved share buyback programme.

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host Standard Chartered Kenya’s Head of Wealth Management Paul Njoki on a discussion about his career experiences in the finance field, investment challenges and tips, and the East African wealth management space.

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host Vipingo Development Limited’s Managing Director Kenneth Mbae on a discussion about his career experience spanning 11 years, the state of the real estate market in Kenya, VDL’s business model as a master developer, and their various projects.

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, the Flame Tree GroupCEO Heril Bangera shares insights into manufacturing and distribution, product localization to capture cross-border markets, and the firm’s future outlook as a pan-African FMCG company.

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, MTN Uganda CEO Wim Vanhelleputte, Stanbic Uganda Head of Investment Banking Paul Muganwa, and representatives from SBG Securities and Dyer and Blair Investment Bank. We discuss the MTN IPO, MTN’s business model, and the state of the Ugandan capital markets.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:05:09 What’s an IPO?

00:07:52 History and key milestones

00:13:14 Business model and strategic initiatives

00:18:54 The Ugandan economy

00:22:49 Stanbic Uganda’s, SBG Securities’, and Dyer & Blair’s role

00:28:57 MTN Uganda’s ownership and listing reasons

00:34:51 Bonus shares

00:36:32 IPO application process

00:49:23 Capital allocation

00:54:52 Ugandan capital markets

00:58:11 MTN’s future

01:07:04 Money transfer vs network business

01:09:35 Cross-border participation process

01:14:11 MTN’s management team

01:21:07 MTN’s valuation

01:30:58 Skin in the game?

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host the Acorn Holdings CEO Edward Kirathe and CIO Raghav Gandhi for a discussion on the state of real estate investments in Kenya, mobilizing funds through the capital markets, and the firm’s recently-launched offering for retail investors, VUKA.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:09 A brief career summary

00:07:28 Acorn’s business model

00:09:38 Acorn’s ownership structure

00:13:49 REITs

00:17:07 State of the Kenyan capital market

00:24:11 Acorn’s Green Bond

00:30:35 REITs structure

00:34:46 Lessons and reflections from real estate investments

00:39:48 VUKA

00:46:27 Rent escalation, yields, and Green Bond certification

00:56:50 Land management challenges

00:59:12 Advantages of investing in REITs

01:01:00 What’s next for Acorn

01:04:33 REITs uptake

01:05:33 Acorn’s team, impact, and organizational culture

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss topical issues on African capital markets.

In this episode, we host the BK Group CEO Diane Karusisi on a discussion around the group’s digital transformation strategy, its growth and expansion plans into other financial services, and the threat posed by the emergence of fintech to the banking sector.

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Welcome to the Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss pertinent issues regarding African capital markets.

This week we host the Jubilee Holdings CEO Dr. Julius Kipng'etich.

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Welcome to Mwango Capital Podcast where we discuss pertinent issues regarding African capital markets. This week we host the Centum CEO James Mworia.

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00:00:00 Introduction

00:03:22 What Inspires You?

00:09:09 What Makes a Great Business Leader

00:12:24 Centum’s Business

00:24:42 Opportunities and Future Growth

00:28:53 Key Areas to Grow EBITDA

00:36:06 Amu Power Failures and Lessons Learnt

00:41:11 Dividend Payments and the Future Outlook

00:46:31 Share Price and Share Buybacks

00:52:03 Evaluating the Company’s Financial Statements

00:58:01 Accounting and Accounting Practices

01:04:53 The High Yield Portfolio

01:07:21 Exits

01:10:27 Centum’s Business Model

01:13:55 Synergies Between The Portfolio Companies

01:15:23 Capital Allocation

01:19:45 Regional Expansion

01:22:36 Reflections, Lessons And The Vision

01:24:58 Kindest Thing and Closing Remarks

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