Talking Toro Podcast: Recent Episodes
Rob Gillman
English based Toro supporters Peter Bourne and Rob Gillman take a look at the recent results and upcoming games for Serie A side Torino FC.
Peter and Rob are back to discuss Torino's 3-1 victory over AC Milan and their 3-0 defeat against Atalanta - however, thanks to Napoli failing to beat Lecce, Toro still have a chance to qualify for Europe depending on Fiorentina's winning the Europa Conference League final on Wednesday night.
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Peter and Rob discuss Torino's 2-1 comeback victory against Hellas Verona thanks to an immediate impact from Primavera players Zanos Savva and Alessandro Dellavale make their debuts which keeps their slim hopes of European football alive.
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Peter and Rob discuss Friday's 0-0 draw against Bologna, a couple of unsavoury incidents that somewhat tarnished the Superga anniversary and look forward to Sunday's trip to Verona.
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In this special episode of Talking Toro, Peter and Rob speak with Herbie Sykes about the Giro d'Italia, the iconic cycling race which begins its first stage on Saturday to coincide with the 75th Anniversary of the Superga plane crash that led to the tragic death of 'il Grande Torino'.
In part two, Rob speaks with Roberto Pennino, author of a new book 'Immortal Torino: How the Superga Air Crash Robbed Italian Football of its Champions'. Roberto's book can be purchased on Amazon here.
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Peter and Rob are back after a couple of weeks away for another episode of the Talking Toro podcast, in which time, the Granata have scored a total of zero goals.
The goalless draws against Juventus and Frosinone are discussed, along with the 2-0 defeat against Inter from the weekend.
Rob discusses his 'VIP' experience at the Derby, whilst Peter details his trip to Buenos Aires and the River Plate museum.
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Peter and Rob are back to discuss Torino's last minute 3-2 defeat against Empoli, and preview this weekends Derby Della Mole against Juventus,
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Peter and Rob return after the international break to discuss Torino's 1-0 victory against Monza and look forward to Saturday's fixture against Empoli - as Toro look to win three Serie A matches in a row for the first time under Ivan Jurić.
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Peter and Rob look back at Torino's 2-0 victory against Udinese and consider how many points may be necessary from the remaining 9 fixtures in order to quality for European football. In part two, they both put forward their own 'one season wonder' XI from two different time periods.
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Peter and Rob are back for another episode of the Talking Toro podcast to discuss Toro's 1-1 draw against Napoli and preview Saturday's match against Udinese.
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Peter and Rob are back to discuss 10 men Torino's 0-0 draw with Fiorentina and the controversial refereeing decision to send off Samuele Ricci for two yellow cards. Friday night's fixture against Napoli is also previewed.
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Peter and Rob are back once again to discuss another Toro defeat despite playing well against a team from the capital, this time, Monday's 3-2 defeat to Roma.
We are also joined by Fiorentina fan and fellow podcaster Giancarlo Rinaldi to help preview Saturday night's match against the Viola and the return of Andrea Belotti to the Stadio Grande Torino.
You can follow Giancarlo on Twitter (@ginkers) and his podcast can be found here : https://shows.acast.com/rigore-the-italian-football-podcast
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Peter and Rob return for a bonus edition of the Talking Toro Podcast to discuss Toro's 2-0 defeat against Lazio despite dominating the first half. Monday night's match against Roma is also previewed and keep listening for another bonus treat at the end of the episode.
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Peter and Rob discuss Torino's 2-0's victory over Lecce, the Bellanova/Zapata double act and preview Toro's upcoming fixtures against Lazio and Roma in direct clashes with fellow European challengers.
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Peter and Rob look back on Saturday's 1-1 draw against Sassuolo, question how a team who have only lost twice since October can look so unconvincing, and preview Friday night's match against Lecce.
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Peter and Rob are back for another episode of Talking Toro, as they review Toro's transfer market, the 0-0 draw against Salernitana and preview Saturday's match against Sassuolo.
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Peter and Rob look back at Toro's 2-1 win at Cagliari and discuss where Toro need to reinforce with only two days left before the transfer window closes.
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With Toro not in action last week, Peter and Rob answer some listeners questions, as they look to answer the mystery regarding whether Simone Zaza is a missing person, and why Toro have an allergy to signing a decent left back.
An update on the calciomercato is provided, whilst they also look back on Torino's famous 1991-92 UEFA Cup run that ended with agony in Amsterdam.
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Peter and Rob are back for a new episode of the Talking Toro Podcast as they look back at the 0-0 draw against Genoa, and look (far) ahead to their next match against Cagliari.
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Peter and Rob are back for the first Talking Toro episode of 2024 as they look back on draw with Udinese, defeat against Fiorentina and stunning recent 3-0 victory against Napoli.
In the second half, we were pleased to join Fabrizio and Matt from the 'La Lanterna Podcast' to preview this weekend's match against Genoa.
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In a special edition of the Talking Toro Podcast, Peter hosts a South Coast derby edition of the Christmas Torino Quiz between Rob and friend of the pod Macer.
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Peter and Rob discuss Toro's narrow 1-0 win against Empoli, their third home win in a row, and preview their next two games - against Udinese and Fiorentina.
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Peter and Rob review Toro's 0-0 draw and some questionable refereeing decisions in Frosinone on Sunday and preview the next match against Empoli.
They also look at the array of Torino books in existence, in English and in Italian, and Peter has a very special announcement to make.
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Join Peter and Rob for a very special edition of the Talking Toro podcast, live from Turin.
Their trip coincided with Torino's 117th anniversary, so this episode begins with a clip recorded at 'Bar Norman' birthplace of Torino Football Club. The pod features live audio from Monday night's match against Atalanta, and then the pod itself is recorded almost immediately following Toro's 3-0 victory.
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Peter and Rob are back for another episode of the Talking Toro podcast, as they discuss Torino's disappointing 2-0 defeat against Bologna and look forward to their trip to Turin ahead of the Atalanta match on Monday night.
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Peter and Rob are back as they review Torino's 1-1 draw with Monza, and preview their next match against Bologna at the end of November.
With in being an international week, they also discuss their own relationships with the Italian national team, and select their own 'Top 10 Toro Italy' players.
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Peter and Rob are back for a new episode of the Talking Toro podcast, as they review the Coppa Italia defeat, victory over Sassuolo and preview Saturday's fixture in Monza.
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Peter and Rob are back for another episode of the Talking Toro podcast, as they look back on the 1-0 victory against Lecce, and preview the Coppa Italia tie with Frosinone and league game against Sassuolo.
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Peter and Rob are back to discuss Toro's dreadful 2-0 defeat in the Derby Della Mole, and look forward to Torino's next game following the international break against Inter.
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Peter and Rob discuss Monday's disappointing 0-0 draw at home to Hellas Verona and also look forward (potentially not the right word) to Saturday's derby against Juventus.
They also put together a 'dream derby XI' featuring the Toro players who have made the most impact in the 'Derby Della Mole'.
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Peter and Rob are back for another episode of Talking Toro, as they look back at a double Roman adventure - a 1-1 draw against Roma, and a more disappointing 2-0 defeat at Lazio.
Rob has an opportunity to get his first 'Toropedia' point of the season, whilst Monday's fixture at home to Hellas Verona is also previewed.
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Peter and Rob are back for another episode of Talking Toro as they review Torino's impressive 3-0 victory at Salernitana.
Sunday night's match against Roma is previewed and Rob picks out his five favourite goals scored by former Toro captain Andrea Belotti, who could make his first appearance back at the Stadio Grande Torino since leaving the club.
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Peter and Rob are back to discuss their ultimate 'African Torino XI' which includes a number of players who have probably never been mentioned on the pod before.
Toro's next match against Salernitana is also previewed as the Granata look to build on their victory against Genoa.
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Peter and Rob are back to discuss Toro's final dealings in the transfer window as well as their heavy 4-1 defeat at AC Milan and last minute 1-0 victory against Genoa.
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Peter and Rob are back to discuss, and quickly forget, Toro's 0-0 draw with Cagliari on the opening weekend of the Serie A season.
With a week to go until the transfer window, they discuss what the club requires to improve the squad and preview Saturday's match against AC Milan at the San Siro.
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Peter and Rob are back for a brand new season of the Talking Toro Podcast, and to celebrate our 50th episode....we even have a brand new logo.
The 2-1 Coppa Italia victory over Feralpisalò is discussed as well as a recap and analysis of Toro's summer transfers.
We make some rather bold pre-season Serie A predictions as well as preview Toro's first league game of the season against newly promoted Cagliari.
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In the final episode of the second season of the Talking Toro podcast, Peter and Rob discuss the latest transfers rumours and announce the winner of their player of the season award.
Rob gets a final opportunity to redeem himself at 'Toropedia' and the lads compile their ultimate 11 of players who 'almost' signed for Toro - which includes a Wolves legend and a Brazilian World Cup winner!
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Peter and Rob discuss Toro's 1-0 defeat against Inter which ended any slim chance of European qualification for next season.
However, the boys look back on Juric's 2nd season (or album as Peter would say) and hand out some alternative awards and rate each player's performance this season.
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Peter and Rob recap Toro's impressive 4-0 victory over Spezia that means an 8th placed finish is now in their own hands thanks to results elsewhere.
The hypothetical situation of Toro qualifying for Europe via Juventus being banned from Europe is also discussed, and the last game of the season against Champions League finalist Inter is previewed.
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On this week's Talking Toro, Peter and Rob discuss Torino's poor home form as they struggle to a 1-1 draw against a weakened Fiorentina.
Saturday's match against relegation threatened Spezia is also previewed, as Toro look for their first ever competitive victory at the Stadio Alberto Picco.
Peter and Rob are also joined by a special guest; journalist, writer and Toro fan Herbie Sykes.
Herbie talks about following Toro from abroad in the late 1980s and early 1990s and what led to him forming the very first 'Toro Club England' with a young Peter Bourne amongst the members.
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Peter and Rob discuss Torino's 1-0 victory over Hellas Verona, as they continue to look promising in the #RaceForEighth.
Sunday's match against Fiorentina is also previewed, and the Viola may have their minds elsewhere with a Conference League Semi Final and Coppa Italia Final either side of the match.
Speaking of the Coppa Italia, it is 30 years since Toro won that trophy, their last piece of silverware. Peter and Rob look back at the key moments of that two legged final that saw Toro narrowly prevail on away goals after the tie finished 5-5.
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In this week's episode, Peter and Rob discuss Torino's two most recent matches, a 2-0 victory against Sampdoria and a 1-1 home draw against Monza.
They also look at ranking Torino's British imports with Denis Law, Joe Baker, Gerry Hitchens, Tony Dorigo and Joe Hart all in contention as Toro's greatest ever British player.
This weekend's fixture against relegation threatened Hellas Verona is also previewed.
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In the first half of this week's episode, Peter and Rob discuss the rather strange places that they watched Toro's 2-1 home defeat to Atalanta. This week's fixtures against Sampdoria and Monza are previewed, as Rob looks at the Granata's surprisingly good form in the matches pre and post Superga.
With it being Superga week, in the second half, the boys are joined by Dominic Bliss, author of the outstanding book 'Erbstein: The triumph and tragedy of football's forgotten pioneer' to discuss Egri Erbstein's incredible life and time at Torino.
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Peter and Rob are back to discuss Torino's surprising 1-0 victory in Rome against 2nd place Lazio, thanks to a rare long range effort from Ivan Ilic. Saturday night's match at home to Atalanta is also previewed, as the #BattleForEighth continues.
In the second half of the podcast, the lads compile an all all time 11 of Argentinean and Uruguayan players who have played for the Granata.
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Peter and Rob look back at Torino's last two disappointing home results, a 1-0 defeat to Roma and Sunday's 1-1 draw against Salernitana.
Rob's recent trip to Italy is also discussed, including a surreal encounter with a former Toro left back.
Saturday's match against Lazio is also previewed, as Toro look for their first win since 12th March.
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Peter and Rob deliver their immediate reaction to Torino's 1-1 draw against Sassuolo and in a pod first, provide their own 'pagelle' to rate the players' performance.
Rob will be attending Saturday's match against Roma, as former Toro captain Andrea Belotti returns to the Stadio Grande Torino for the first time. Therefore, that match is also previewed, with a rather shocking prediction.
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Friend of the pod Macer Corcoran returns to test his Toro knowledge against Peter, who defends his virtual trophy that he won against Rob at Christmas.
There are 6 rounds, so please feel free to play along at home.
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Peter and Rob discuss Torino's 4-0 'home' defeat to Napoli and discuss the reasons why so many Napoli fans were able to attend the match.
Italy's international match with England is also discussed, with Torino's own Alessandro Buongiorno in the squad, but unlikely to feature.
Toro's next fixture against Sassuolo is also previewed.
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Peter and Rob discuss Sunday's 2-0 victory over Lecce including the redemption of Radonjic and Tonny Sanabria's good form.
This weekend's game against champions elect Napoli is also previewed, whilst they also take a look at the Torino Youth Academy (or Primavera) and discuss the former players to have passed through the ranks, and the next players to look out for in the future.
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Peter and Rob discuss Torino's 1-0 victory over Bologna, the unlikely cult hero Yann Karamoh and 'that' tackle by Perr Schuurs. Sunday's fixture away to Lecce is previewed as Toro aim to get revenge for the 4-0 defeat the last time they played there.
Rob and Peter also compile their list of the Top 10 Toro players of the 21st Century, which provides plenty of debate!
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Peter and Rob are back to discuss Torino's poor defending in the derby, as the Granata concede 3 goals from set pieces in a 4-2 defeat.
They also talk about whether Nemanja Radonjić's Toro career is over after he was subbed after coming on as a substitute, whilst suggestions to improve the 'culture' surrounding the Derby Della Mole from a Toro player perspective our discussed.
Monday night's match against Bologna is also previewed as Toro aim to get back to winning ways.
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Peter and Rob discuss Monday night's disappointing 2-2 draw with bottom-of-the-table Cremonese.
That match did not act as the ideal preparation to next week's 'Derby Della Mole' but Peter and Rob put forward 10 things that may need to happen in order for Toro to claim an unlikely victory - given that Toro have only won 1 derby game since 1995!
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Peter and Rob discuss Torino's 1-0 defeat at the San Siro as the Granata's issues in front of goal continue.
Monday night's match against winless Cremonese is also previewed, as Toro look to remain ahead of Juventus before the derby.
As a special feature, the boys also discuss the best eleven Brazilian players to play for Toro..and yes, a certain current Southampton player does get a mention.
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On this week's episode of Talking Toro, Peter discusses his recent trip to Turin where he saw Toro beat Udinese 1-0 in the 'race for 7th place'.
We also offer some tips and advice for any fans hoping to make the trip to Turin in order to watch a game.
Friday's night match against AC Milan is also previewed, as Torino look to replicate their Coppa Italia victory.
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Peter and Rob discuss Toro's disappointing elimination from the Coppa Italia on Wednesday evening, as they fell to a 2-1 defeat against Fiorentina.
However, they also look ahead to Peter's upcoming trip to Turin, as he will be in the stadium when the Granata face Udinese on Sunday.
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Peter and Rob are back to discuss Toro's late comeback against Empoli, as they scored twice in the last 10 minutes to earn a point.
With Ivan Ilić's signing (and Sasa Lukic's departure), Peter and Rob look back at the best eleven players from The Balkans region to play for the Granata.
With another trip to Florence on the horizon, Wednesday afternoon's Coppa Italia quarter final against Fiorentina is previewed.
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Peter and Rob recap Saturday's historic victory over Fiorentina, their first victory in Florence since 1976.
Two men who have played for, and coached, Torino are this week's 'hero' and 'villain' whilst Saturday's trip to Empoli is also previewed.
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In typical Toro fashion, the euphoria of Wednesday's Coppa Italia quickly was swiftly replaced by disappointment as Toro lost 1-0 at home to Spezia.
Peter and Rob discuss that defeat, what is missing from this Torino side and preview our next match away to Fiorentina.
Rob selects one of his personal cult heroes as his 'Toro hero' whilst Peter selects a player who made his debut 23 years ago, and is still playing in Serie A!
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Peter and Rob are back for 2023 and discuss 10 men Torino's stunning 1-0 defeat of AC Milan after extra time in the Coppa Italia from Wednesday night.
The consecutive 1-1 draws against Hellas Verona and Salernitana are also discussed, whilst Sunday's home match against Spezia is previewed.
Peter chooses a striker with a knack of scoring against Juventus as his 'Toro Hero' whilst Rob selects a player who made the move to the 'other team in Turin' and currently plies his trade in the Premier League as his 'Toro Villain'.
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In a special Christmas edition of the 'Talking Toro' podcast, we enlist the help of friend of the pod Macer Corcoran to act as quiz master as Peter and Rob go head to head and test their Toro knowledge.
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Peter and Rob remember former Toro coach Siniša Mihajlović who sadly passed away last week, and also reflect on how the Granata players fared at the 2022 World Cup.
After a short break, Peter and Rob discuss Torino's last three matches, the defeat at Bologna, the victory over Sampdoria and the draw with Roma.
With the World Cup only a few days away, we look back on former Toro players who have played at the tournament - with Ricardo Rodriguez, Nikola Vlasic, Vanja Milenkovic-Savic, Sasa Lukic, and Nemanja Radonjic all getting ready to represent their countries.
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Peter and Rob return to discuss Torino's consecutive victories - last week's 2-1 win against Udinese, and Sunday's impressive 2-1 victory over champions AC Milan.
Rob picks one of his first Toro idols as his 'hero' of the week, whereas Peter chooses an ex Real Madrid employee as his 'villain' of the week.
Sunday's clash with Bologna is also previewed, as both sides look to make it three league wins in a row.
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Peter and Rob discuss Torino's deflating 1-0 defeat in the Derby against Juventus, and bemoan the lack of 'winning spirit' within the current squad. Tuesday's 4-0 victory over Cittadella sparks a discussion on the terrible Coppa Italia format, whilst Sunday's trip to in form Udinese is also previewed.
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Peter and Rob discuss Torino's 1-1 draw with Empoli, with Rob discussing some anecdotes from his weekend in Turin to watch the match.
With the 55th anniversary of his tragic death taking place on Saturday, Peter and Rob pay tribute to 'La Farfulla Granata' Gigi Meroni.
Finally, the pair look ahead to Saturday's 'Derby Della Mole' with Juventus, and look back at some of their most memorable derbies of the past.
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Peter and Rob look back at Saturday's 3-1 defeat against Napoli, and bemoan the lack of improvement in the squad that was so desperately needed in August.
A Toro player/coach is selected as Peter's hero of the week, whilst Rob chooses a midfield who has recently returned to Serie A.
Next week's Empoli game is also previewed, where Rob will hope to improve on his abysmal record of watching Toro play live.
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After a two week break, Peter and Rob return to discuss Toro's (unlucky) 1-0 defeat to Inter and their (disappointing) 1-0 defeat to Sassuolo. They also predict how they think Toro will fare in the remaining eight games before the World Cup break.
In order to preview Saturday's match at Napoli, the pair are joined by Macer Corcoran who discusses how he became a fan of the club and the incredible lengths he goes to attend matches.
Forza Toro!
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Peter and Rob discuss Thursday's 3-1 defeat against Atalanta and Monday's 1-0 victory over Lecce, whilst also bemoaning some aspects of the BT Sport coverage.
A player who scored a famous Derby goal is this week's 'Toro Hero' whilst a player more famous for an incredible miss is the 'Toro Villain'.
Saturday's away fixture in the San Siro against Inter is also previewed.
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Peter and Rob look back at Torino's 2-1 victory against Cremonese from Saturday evening, and also what business Toro should prioritise ahead of the Summer Transfer Window closing on Thursday.
An Italia 90 legend is picked as Peter's Toro 'Hero of the week' whilst Rob picks a goalkeeper with perhaps the most infamous goalkeeping error in a Granata shirt as his villain of the week.
The boys look forward to upcoming fixtures against Atalanta and Lecce as Torino look to continue their unbeaten start to the season.
Forza Toro!
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Peter and Rob look back on the opening two games of the Serie A season, Torino's opening weekend victory at Monza, and Saturday's 0-0 draw v Lazio.
This weekend's fixture against newly promoted Cremonese is also previewed, whilst also looking at which positions the team need to strengthen before the transfer window closes next month.
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Peter and Rob are back for Season 2 of the Talking Toro podcast!
They discuss the new signings so far, the areas of the squad that needs improvement and the now infamous argument in Austria between Davide Vagnati and Ivan Juric.
They also look ahead to the start of the new season, starting with Saturday's Coppa Italia clash with Palermo, then the first two fixtures of the Serie A season - away to Monza, and at home to Lazio.
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Peter and Rob assess the current Torino squad and look at what areas will need improving ahead of the 2022/23 season.
With Andrea Belotti's contract situation still not settled, a couple of potential replacements are put forward whilst hypothetical discussions take place regarding what should be done with the Bremer money, should the Brazilian be sold as seems inevitable.
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Peter and Rob discuss Torino's disappointing final game of the season as the Granata fall to a self-inflicted 3-0 home defeat against Roma.
They also take a look back at what has been a promising season for Torino, and discuss who has been the player of the season and discuss their favourite goals of the campaign.
A few 'alternative' awards are metaphorically handed out in this end of the season special.
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Peter and Rob are back for another episode of the Talking Toro podcast as they discuss Torino's 1-0 win over Hellas Verona in 'The Ivan Juric Derby' and the disappointing news that goal scorer Josip Brekalo's loan move won't be made permanent.
A lively discussion regarding what an ideal one season Serie A line would look like through a Toro supporter's perspective, as Rob accidentally insults a number of Italian cities and clubs.
Rob selects an Argentinian striker who made an excellent impact in the Europa League (spoiler, it's not Marcelo Larrondo) as his hero of the week, whilst Peter chooses a cumbersome defender who was synonymous with a number of poor Toro sides as his villain of the week.
The final match of the season against Roma is also previewed, as Torino look to cement a top 10 finish against José Mourinho's side, who are likely to have more than one eye on their Europa Conference League final v Feyenoord.
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Peter and Rob are back for another episode of the Talking Toro podcast. The Granata's 1-0 defeat at home to Napoli on Saturday afternoon is discussed (0:30) whilst also discussing the potential futures of a number of Torino players.
Peter selects a 90s midfielder who has an unusual connection to a former England captain as his Toro hero of the week (19:00).
Rob selects a player who was the last Torino player to score at a World Cup as his villain of the week (44:00) and once again leads to a rant against footballers using Instagram.
This weekend's 'Ivan Juric Derby' is also previewed (52:30) as Torino travel to Hellas Verona in the crucial match in the battle for 9th place.
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A special edition of the Talking Toro podcast, recorded on the 73rd anniversary of the Superga air disaster where the legendary 'Grande Torino' team of the 1940s tragically lost their lives.
Peter and Rob discuss what the 4th May means to them personally and Torino fans in general as they discuss the greatest Toro side in history.
The entertaining 4-4 draw with Atalanta and 3-1 victory over Empoli (39:00) are also discussed, whilst the upcoming game against Napoli on Saturday afternoon is also previewed.
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Peter and Rob discuss Torino's 2-1 victory over Spezia (0:30) with Demba Seck and Sasa Lukic receiving heavy praise.
Rob's pick for Toro hero may be a controversial one (21:45) whilst Peter chooses one of the worst players to wear the famous Granata shirt as his Toro villain (36:45)
There are also previews for Torino's two away trips this week, as they first face Atalanta and then travel to Empoli on Sunday (45:00).
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It's happened again.
Torino concede yet another late equaliser to cruelly be denied a deserved victory - this time against Lazio on Saturday night. Peter and Rob dissect the 1-1 draw (0:20) and single out a few players for their impressive performances.
Peter chooses one of the promotion heroes from the 2005/06 promotion season as his Toro hero of the week (21:00), whilst Rob chooses a player who managed to get into trouble via Instagram as his Toro villain of the week (33:00).
This Saturday's upcoming match against Spezia is also previewed (44:15)
Toro Hero : Oscar Brevi
Toro Villain : Roberto Soriano
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A slightly different edition of the Talking Toro podcast as Peter and Rob first discuss Sunday evening's 0-0 draw against AC Milan (0:25).
They then discuss their best (and worst) Toro shirts of all time (21:50) before previewing Saturday's upcoming match against Lazio (58:30).
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