Wandering Tree Podcast: Recent Episodes

Adoptee Lisa Ann

Wandering Tree Podcast has been established with the simple goal of reaching other adoptees who may benefit from just hearing another one of us say it out loud. Host, Adoptee Lisa Ann, will share the tangled roots of the life long journey as an adoptee, the search for biological connections, the good and bad of reunions and how saying "I am adopted" has connected to so many others. The candid discussions between Adoptee Lisa Ann and her guests will tackle the term "adoption" and how it is covers so many aspects of our society.

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Art meets advocacy when the transformative power of storytelling takes the spotlight. As a playwright, Suzanne Bachner channeled the raw emotions and experiences of the adoptee's pursuit into narratives that resonate beyond the stage, touching hearts and influencing legislative change. This episode doesn't merely trace Suzanne's path to discovering her beginnings; it also celebrates the broader victories for adoptee rights, highlighting the vital role of the arts in this movement. Through the craft of live performances, we've seen the adoption narrative shift and gain momentum, even as we continue to advocate for unrestricted access to original birth certificates and the fulfillment of every adoptee's right to know their heritage.

When Suzanne speaks, we listen - the echoes of a past era and the soul-searching journey of an adoptee become palpable - a narrative woven from the threads of the Baby Scoop Era, where the controversial practices of Louise Wise Services and the emotional odyssey of finding one's roots take center stage. Suzanne's candid recounting are far from a tale of disloyalty to her adoptive family, it emerges as a tender testament to the complex layers of identity and the hunger for truth that defines many adoptees' lives.

Listening to Suzanne's journey, our hearts are woven into the fabric of her experiences, reflecting the spirit of resilience that defines the adoptee community. We discuss the significance of these shared stories, the advocacy that propels us forward, and the interconnectedness that fosters a sense of belonging within our ranks. Join us as we traverse the emotional landscape of adoption, celebrate the strides made in adoptee rights, and affirm the enduring strength found in the community's collective voice.

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When Lori Knisely offers a window into her soul, revealing the intertwined paths of being an adoptee and storyteller, we're reminded that life is rich with complex patterns. Our hearts travel with Lori to the remnants of St. Anthony's Home for Infants, feeling the gravity of each stone and the stories they carry as we follow her quest for information. Imagine holding a piece of your origin in your hands, a doorknob from a place that once held you but left no memory—such is the profound longing shared by many adoptees. Lori's pilgrimage through physical spaces and metaphorical gaps in life's timeline paints a vivid picture of the adoption narrative, echoing the universal human search for identity and belonging.

Lori’s advocacy story is a testimonial to the strength found in community, the transformative power of shared experiences and exemplifies resilience and compassion required to navigate the intricate relationship between adoption, identity, and faith. At the close of this beautiful conversation we are left with a sense of gratitude for the courage and openness that Lori, and those like her, bring to the table. Join us as we continue to unearth and share these powerful narratives, fostering a space for understanding and connection within the vast community of adoption.

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Have you ever pondered the threads of history of adoption and how it intertwines to shape lives? Rebecca Wellington joins us in a thought provoking conversation that reaches into the depths of her own adoption story, the heartache of losing her sister, and the impetus behind her touching book, "Who is a Worthy Mother? An Intimate History of Adoption." Through her eyes, we journey across the emotional landscape adoptees traverse, with societal pressures lurking like shadows along the path, and discover how shared stories can light the way for many in search of connection and understanding.

The episode unfurls the adoption narrative across time, from the ancient world's openness to the shrouded practices of today. We scrutinize the stark contrasts in history, from Hammurabi's Code to modern America, casting a light on the complexities and transformations of adoption ethics. Notably, we ponder the implications of recent Supreme Court rulings on the rights of adoptive and birth parents alike. Rebecca's analysis is both historic and timely, offering a window into the enduring search for identity that adoptees often face, amidst a culture shrouded in secrecy and stigma.

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Sometimes the bonds of family and the fabric of our identities need mending, a truth that Joe Beth know all too well. On this episode of Wandering Tree Podcast, we hear their powerful journey through adoption, suicide and addiction. The conversation leads up down a path which involves unraveling the deep emotional complexities that come with Joe courageously sharing his story, from the trauma of being adopted from Japan to the solace he sought in substances; all painting a picture of the isolation and rejection he felt as an adoptee and minority. Beth, with the wisdom only a mother's heart can hold, reveals her side of their shared path — the awakening to her son's unique needs and the crucial steps taken to navigate the turbulence of his crises.

This dialogue is more than just a recounting of past struggles; it's a beacon of hope for those entangled in similar battles. Joe and Beth's raw conversation emphasizes the transformative power of vulnerability and open communication, spotlighting the potential for healing within adoptive families. By sharing their experiences, they not only reinforce the significance of acknowledging adoption trauma but also celebrate the resilience found in facing these challenges head-on.

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Have you ever stood at the crossroads of identity, where the past and present collide in a mosaic of loss and discovery? Monica Hall's life is a living embodiment of such a crossroads, as she gracefully carries the dual mantle of being both an adoptee and a birth parent. In this episode, Monica recounts her story of growing up in a Catholic family in Alaska, the heart-wrenching decisions she faced as a teenager, and the complex journey of self-discovery that followed. Join us to unravel the intricate layers of Monica's identity as she opens up about her upcoming memoir and the challenges that led her to write it.

Her narrative doesn't shy away from the painful realities of her past, including the immense pressure of a young girl navigating an unplanned pregnancy within the confines of her religious upbringing. Listen closely as Monica reflects on her determination to hold her baby despite overwhelming opposition, and witness the transformation that unfolds from her darkest moments to a life-affirming reunion with her daughter after 18 years of separation.

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When Kira Omans opens up about her life as a transracial adoptee, you can't help but be drawn into her world. Her narrative is not just a story of adoption but a profound testament to the search for identity and belonging. In today's conversation, we navigate Kira's childhood and growth into a confident Chinese American, actress, and advocate for the adoptee community. Her candid reflections on the complexities of fitting in and the evolving nature of her relationship with her own adoption narrative give voice to the struggles and victories that color the experiences of countless others like her.

Our conversation takes a turn towards the broader cultural conversation, examining how adoptees are portrayed in media and public perception. Kira's insights into these portrayals and the often misunderstood motives behind adoptees' searches for biological connections challenge the oversimplified narratives perpetuated by society. This discussion is an invitation to consider the depth behind each adoptee's story and to appreciate the nuanced representation that authentic voices like Kira's can provide.

Perhaps most impactful is the chapter in which Kira and I explore the often-overlooked issue of pre-verbal trauma and its deep-seated effects on adoptees. Our intimate dialogue on abandonment fears, anxiety, and the journey towards healing challenges listeners to acknowledge and validate the emotional complexities that lay hidden beneath the surface of many adoption stories. This episode not only aims to shed light on these intricate emotions and behaviors but also serves as a call to action for advocacy, education, and adoption reform.

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Have you ever felt like a piece of your identity was missing? Mary Ellen Gambuti joins us to weave the heartfelt narrative of her life as an adoptee from the baby scoop era, a time when societal pressures and moral expectations often forced the hand of birth parents. Her candid recollection begins with the harrowing tale of her abandonment at birth, her experience in a foundling home, and the eventual adoption by a military family—an upbringing that carved a unique background against the backdrop of growing up in the vibrant tapestry of multiple states and countries.

As if life's puzzle wasn't complex enough, imagine grappling with the "primal wound"—the deep-seated trauma faced by adoptees from early separation. Mary Ellen bravely shares her internal struggle, reflecting on how this early rift sowed seeds of identity challenges and loss that lingered into her adult life. Adding another layer, we discuss the hero narrative of military families and how that shaped her emotions and understanding of gratitude, obligation, and belonging. Her insights serve as a beacon for the adoption community, illuminating the crucial need for specialized therapy and support systems.

Our conversation underscores the universal right for adoptees to access their adoption records—a vital piece in the puzzle of self-understanding. Her story, chronicled in "I Must Have Wandered: An Adopted Air Force Daughter Recalls," provides an intimate look into an adoptee's search for connection and the profound layers that shape a life story.

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When Ohio native Dana Ozak was brought home on her mother's birthday, little did she know that her life would unfold as a tale both profound and inspiring. Our latest Wandering Tree Podcast episode encapsulates Dana's journey as an adoptee, weaving through family dynamics, identity formation, and the ceaseless quest for belonging. Her narrative is not just her own but echoes the experiences of many who've grappled with the complexities of adoption—a story punctuated with familial pride and the inevitable curiosity about one's origins.

Settle in as we navigate the nuanced roles that birth order and adoption play in a family. Dana candidly recounts how being the eldest daughter influenced her position within her family and, more intriguingly, how it intersected with her identity as an adoptee. The emotional resonance of her quest to unravel her biological roots is palpable, especially when sealed records and the search for resemblance reveal heartrending truths and unexpected connections. Dana's discovery of her biological father's identity exemplifies a profound balancing act between the pull of nature and the shaping hands of nurture.

Our conversation culminates with Dana sharing the emotional whirlwind of reuniting with her biological family. The breakthroughs and the setbacks, including the bittersweet knowledge of a brother passed and siblings found, craft a narrative so rich that it becomes universally moving. We're honored Dana chose to share her story with us, and by doing so, she offers a beacon of hope and understanding for others navigating the emotional waters of adoption. Her courage in sharing her story is a testament to the strength found in the search for one's roots and the power of family, both given and chosen.

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A Tapestry of Belonging in the Complex World of Adoption with Adoptee Julie McGue

When the quest for identity entwines with the intricacies of adoption, it's a journey worth sharing. This is precisely what Julie McGue, the award-winning author of "Twice a Daughter: A Search for Identity, Family and Belonging," offers as she unfolds her narrative of self-discovery as an adoptee on our latest Wandering Tree Podcast episode. Her story, marked by the complexities of closed adoptions and a lack of medical history, reveals the nuanced challenges adoptees face in understanding where they come from and the evolving legal landscape of adoptee rights.

The conversation takes an emotional turn as we delve into the silent struggles of birth mothers and the identity crises plaguing both them and the adoptees they've parted with. Julie sheds light on the weight of initial rejections, the secrecy shrouding their decisions, and the misleading information that adoptees often grapple with. It's a raw look at the powerful need for compassion in navigating these relationships and the unanticipated discoveries that DNA analysis can unveil, reshaping one's sense of self and ethnicity.

Lastly, we tackle the delicate matters of loyalty, authenticity, and the language we use to speak about adoption. Julie passionately makes the case for terms that honor all members of the adoption triad, dismantling misconceptions and highlighting the importance of positive language. We wrap up our profound discussion with a nod of gratitude to Julie for her openness and extend an invitation to our listeners: If Julie's candidness resonates with you, your voice and story are welcome here, adding to the diverse experiences that make the Wandering Tree Podcast a beacon for those seeking connection and understanding in the world of adoption.

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When Edward Di Gangi sat down with us, we knew we were about to embark on a journey unlike any other—a quest for identity that turns the pages of the past to illuminate the present. He mesmerizes us with his narrative, one that began with his adoption during a time known as the baby scoop era and flourished into an idyllic upbringing by his loving adoptive parents. His story, detailed in "A Gift Best Given," unravels the complexities of adoption experiences and society's evolving views on the practice, punctuated by his own positive outlook and the warm embrace of family bonds that extend beyond genetics.

The heart of Edward's tale lies in the artistic legacy of his biological mother, an aspiring professional ice skater with a story that could fill novels. With the scant details of an old document and the digital troves of Ancestry.com, Edward pieces together a rich tapestry of a life once hidden from him. It's a narrative punctuated by serendipitous encounters—from a photograph that finally puts a face to a name, to a visa application shedding light on her dreams and aspirations. As Edward reveals the intricate details of his mother's journey and the discoveries that led to his poignant book, our listeners are invited to witness how the convergence of past and present can enrich our understanding of self.

Our conversation culminates in the emotional resonance of family reunions and the revelation of long-held secrets, as Edward recounts his encounter with an elderly woman named Isabelle, who unknowingly held the missing pieces of his lineage. Through a treasure trove of memorabilia and the endearing discovery of a half-brother, Edward's personal history becomes a kaleidoscope of shared experiences, heartfelt connections, and the enduring question of what truly makes us who we are. This episode isn't merely about tracing lineage; it's a testament to the power of human connection and the relentless pursuit of one's story, which can bring unexpected closeness and a profound sense of belonging.

When it comes to the amplification of male adoptee voices, it is crucial to recognize the unique experiences and perspectives they bring to the table. Each male adoptees has a valuable role to play in helping to shape the narrative around adoption by providing insights into their own personal journeys. This last episode in the series which has us on a spectacular journey of meaningful conversations, were male adoptees have been empowered to share their stories, break down stereotypes, and contribute to a greater understanding of the adoption experience as a whole.

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As your host, I'm thrilled to welcome our guest, Matt, a beacon of hope and resilience who brings us an extraordinary tale of adoption, medical adversity, and the quest to find, define and anchor to his family roots. Born as a premature baby with an array of health complications, Matt's story begins with a life-threatening situation, taken under the wing of a compassionate doctor and his nurse practitioner wife, who later become his adoptive parents. This episode is a testimonial to the power of love and the importance of a supportive family, as Matt grows up surrounded by constant care.

Prepare yourself to listen with deep intent as Matt narrates the fascinating turns he encounters while searching for his biological family due to ongoing health concerns. Embarking on a journey which takes him down a path laden with emotion, Matt's DNA test results lead to a potential first cousin and an overwhelming number of matches to cipher through and ultimately leads to a very large family. His account of balancing commitments, as he sifts through newfound information, is as inspiring as it is stirring. Hold your breath as he shares the moment of his first interaction with his biological mother and siblings, shedding light on the emotional whirlwind that comes with discovering one's identity.

Lastly, our conversation with Matt unveils the ironic twists and turns of his life, as he talks about the tragic passing of his biological father and the subsequent ripple effects on his family. He reveals the surprising proximity of his biological siblings, emphasizing the need for emotional readiness when embarking on such a journey. This episode is not just about Matt's journey, but also about how the aftereffects of trauma than can ripple through both adoptees and their biological families. Ultimately, Matt's story is a true embodiment of resilience, leaving us with a profound sense of hope. There is no doubt you will be moved and inspired as you tune in.

When it comes to the amplification of male adoptee voices, it is crucial to recognize the unique experiences and perspectives they bring to the table. Each male adoptees has a valuable role to play in helping to shape the narrative around adoption by providing insights into their own personal journeys. This six-episode series is taking us on a spectacular journey of meaningful conversations, were male adoptees have been empowered to share their stories, break down stereotypes, and contribute to a greater understanding of the adoption experience as a whole.

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Ever wonder how it feels to grow up feeling chosen, only to discover that your life's narrative was built on a web of half-truths? Get ready for an adoptee rollercoaster as we sit down with Jack Rocco MD, author of "Recycled." Jack takes us through his adoption journey from his loving upbringing in a tight-knit Italian family to his path of self-discovery sparked by an eye-opening blind date and a transformative book.

As our conversation unfolds, Jack candidly explores the emotional labyrinth of adoption. He shares the challenges he faced reconciling the love of his adoptive family with the longing to unearth his biological roots, the impact of discovering family secrets, and his struggle to make peace with his identity. His story is further enriched by his examination of free will and the importance of truth. We also discuss the role of local resources in helping individuals navigate situations like his, and the healing power of community.

Delving deeper, we switch gears to discuss a often overlooked perspective - that of male adoptees. Jack provides valuable insights into his own struggle with understanding his identity as an African American male in a society laden with traditional masculine roles. He shares how learning about the civil rights movement brought him closer to his roots, and how writing his book helped him reconcile his upbringing with his true self. Join us in this deeply moving conversation that not only shares the journey of an adoptee but also shines a light on the universal quest for identity. This is an episode that will make you rethink your understanding of adoption, identity, and the true meaning of family.

When it comes to the amplification of male adoptee voices, it is crucial to recognize the unique experiences and perspectives they bring to the table. Each male adoptees has a valuable role to play in helping to shape the narrative around adoption by providing insights into their own personal journeys. This six-episode series is taking us on a spectacular journey of meaningful conversations, were male adoptees have been empowered to share their stories, break down stereotypes, and contribute to a greater understanding of the adoption experience as a whole.

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Imagine being 41 years old and discovering at a family gathering that you were adopted. That's exactly what happened with our guest, author and adoptee, Fred Nicora. A unintentional disclosure sparked a massive transformation in Fred's understanding of his identity and started him on an ongoing journey of self-discovery and healing. He offers an incredibly honest view into the life of a late discovery adoptee, revealing the intense struggle to reconcile a new identity and learn to trust again.

Fred doesn't just share his own story, but also his strong advocacy for change in regard to adoptee birth certificate access. He talks candidly about his personal experience with current legislation and how it perpetuates the shame and stigma tied to adoption. With a firm belief in a system of truth and transparency, Fred discusses his support for bills which aim to grant adult adoptees access to their original birth certificates and adoption records. His story is a powerful testament to the importance of honesty and openness when it comes to adoption.

While the journey has been far from easy, Fred also shares how he found strength and coping mechanisms in his spiritual journey and his battle with alcohol. He encourages fellow adoptees and listeners alike to seek out tools that can aid their journey towards healing. His story is a testament to resilience and the power of self-discovery. Join us for this honest and captivating episode that touches on the human journey towards self-understanding, the complexities of adoption, and the importance of identity.
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Have you ever wondered about the deeper psychological impacts of adoption? Join us as we plunge into the emotionally charged story of Andy Wallis, a man adopted in 1973 who has grappled with undiscovered impacts of adoption trauma for over a decade. Andy's unique and poignant tale navigates through his experiences with attachment and detachment in relationships, and how his current partner has been instrumental in his healing journey.

Andy doesn't shy away from sharing his trials and tribulations. He reveals his run of five kilometers a day for a local hospice, inspired by naysayers who said he couldn't. This act of defiance led him to further explore his mental health, culminating in his enrollment in a college course to better understand himself. The episode takes an intimate turn as Andy recounts his quest to obtain his adoption file and original birth certificate, his thoughts on biological family, and the insecurities he copes with regarding his two unknown siblings and absent father. Join us to gain a deeper understanding of adoption's complexities, mental health struggles, and the resilience of the human spirit through Andy's story.

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Ryan Anderson, who imparts his moving journey of self-discovery and acceptance take us on an unforgettable journey of discovery and growth. Born and raised as an outsider in Scotland, Ryan opens up about his unique experience of grappling with various socio-cultural and economic factors that set him apart from the crowd. His narrative takes a surprising turn when he uncovers his adoption at the age of 18, a revelation which consequently reshapes his identity and propels him on a path of self-acceptance.

Join us on this enlightening odyssey as Ryan courageously embarks on a quest to find his biological family tucked away in the cultural mosaic of Morocco. He sheds light on the roller-coaster of emotions he experienced, from the initial shock, through the struggle, to his unabated determination. Fascinatingly, Ryan introduces us to his concept of having three families – his adoptive family, foster family, and DNA family - and the unique process of reconnecting with them. Tune in to witness an exploration of identity, resilience, and the power of acceptance, culminating in an inspiring message of living life to its fullest.

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Do you need to find some light within you during the daily wins and losses of the adoptee journey? This episode welcomes international adoptee, author, and adoptee empowerment life coach Michelle Madrid. She shares intimate insights from her own experiences growing up in foster care, being labeled with limiting words, and the intense feelings of being unwanted by her birth and adoptive parents. What if you could reclaim your identity and purpose?

As we explore the adoptee journey further, Michelle unveils the eight pain points that many adoptees grapple with - from the deep sense of unwelcome they often experience to the pain of broken bonds and having the truth concealed from them. We reflect on the fear of abandonment that lies at the heart of these pains and how it can manifest as people-pleasing and a lack of self-acceptance. We also discuss the powerful exercise, "Putting Down the Baggage," which Michelle has designed to help adoptees recognize and let go of the emotional burdens they've been carrying since childhood.

Finally, Michelle gives us a sneak peek into her upcoming podcast, Electricity of You. Here, she aims to provide a safe and sacred space for adoptees to reconnect with their light, ignite their purpose and share their grief. This episode provides profound wisdom and advice on the adoptee journey, the power of reclaiming identity, and the healing power of sharing grief. So, are you ready to light up your inner electricity?

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Have you ever felt the transformative power of community and connections? Join us as we dive into deep conversations with Erin, Cindy and Annie from Hiraeth, Hope, and Healing about their journeys of self-healing and discovery. They share their poignant stories of self-discovery, revealing how a nurturing community has become their backbone to joy. Each narrative is packed with inspiring tales of their retreat experiences that has allowed them to unfurl their authentic selves without judgement. 

The suitcase is dropped in the room and the guest dive into the sanctuary these retreats present, forming a cocoon for adoptees and NPEs to forge real connections and form lifelong bonds.  They underline the crucial roles understanding and empathy play in dealing with member of this community, and how a supportive each person in navigating this voyage. This episode is a treat for anyone intrigued by the intertwining realms of adoption and genealogy, and the therapeutic power of unity. Get ready to be moved and inspired by their stories, and possibly see the world through a different lens.

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It gets real and emotional in this episode where we welcome our special guests, Linda and Louise, a birth mother and adoptee duo, who bravely share their poignant journey of reunion, self-discovery, and bonding. Prepare to be moved as together, we unpack the life-altering experiences that marked Linda's past - from enduring abuse to meeting Louise's birth father, and Louise's exploration of her adoption's emotional impact that eventually led her to solace in martial arts.

The episode takes an emotional turn when Linda and Louise recount the intricate details of their reunion journey. Each revelation, from the anticipation of their first meeting to the development of their bond through frequent communication, is a testament to their resilience. The challenges they faced, such as building trust amidst processing trauma and navigating misunderstandings, will make you appreciate their strength and the commonality we find within the community. Their coping mechanisms,  highlight the variety of ways one can navigate life's unexpected turns.

As we wind down, we delve into the surprising silver lining the COVID-19 pandemic brought about, enabling Linda and Louise to strengthen their bond. and leverage the power of online support groups. 

Their advocacy for adoption legislation and their use of online platforms to share their story further underscores the positive impact of  connections.

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What does it mean to be a birth mother? How do you navigate the emotional terrain of unplanned pregnancies, the heart-rending decision of adoption, and the aftermath of that choice? These are the raw realities we tackle in this potent episode, guided by the strength and resilience of author and birth mother, Candice Cahill. This conversation is a deep dive into Candice's personal journey—sharing her story, her grief, and her healing—providing invaluable insight into the often unseen dimension of adoption.

Candice's book, 'Goodbye Again,' is a testament the difficult journey following her decision to place her child for adoption. Undeniably, the emotional challenges of holidays and family events leave a lasting mark, but Candice shares how the unwavering support of her partner played a pivotal role in her healing process. As we navigate the complex landscape of motherhood after adoption, delve into the grief that often lingers and the importance of honoring one's role in the adoption process another layer of healing with Host Lisa Ann takes place.

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Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/candace.cahill.16/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/candace_cahill_/
Book via Amazon: https://www.amazon.com/Goodbye-Again-Candace-Cahill-ebook/dp/B0BLZSB8Y4/ref=sr_1_1?crid=S51TUVC5Z2CQ&keywords=candace+cahill&qid=1688936642&sprefix=candace+cahill+%2Caps%2C91&sr=8-1

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What if you had the chance to hear a powerful story of adoption, mental illness, and healing from someone who experienced it firsthand? We're honored to have Danielle Gaudette, author of Healing Tree, share her incredible journey with us.

From being adopted just 10 days after her birth to reuniting with her biological mother at 21, Danielle opens up about the challenges she faced growing up with an adopted mother suffering from bouts of mental illness and how it affected her own life perspectives and health.

Together, we discuss the struggles she faced with loyalty, anxiety, and neurosis when reconnecting with her birth family. Danielle shares how Body and Brain became a vital outlet for her healing process. Through her experiences at the center, Danielle learned about her own energy and how to ground herself, leading to significant personal growth and understanding.

In our conversation, Danielle and I examine the eight steps of healing and self-discovery, emphasizing the importance of practice and patience in order to retrain our brains and create the lives we want for ourselves. We also discuss the power of muscle memory in building cognitive development. Finally, Danielle shares her insights on the process of healing for adoptees and the importance of self-mastery and self-growth in order to authentically support others with similar experiences.

Check out the Pilot Course: Self-Mastery for Adoptees https://info.bodynbrain.com/smp-a

or

Connect with Danielle via the following
FB - https://www.facebook.com/danielle.gaudette.33
Website - https://www.daniellegaudette.com/
IG - https://www.instagram.com/danielle.gaudette/
Good Reads - https://www.goodreads.com/author/show/22338461.Danielle_Gaudette

Amazon - https://www.amazon.com/stores/Danielle-Gaudette/author/B09X7BJD4C?ref=ap_rdr&store_ref=ap_rdr&isDramIntegrated=true&shoppingPortalEnabled=true

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What happens when two domestic adoptees and passionate artists join forces in advocating for their community? In a captivating episode of Wandering Tree Podcast, we're thrilled to have Rebecca Autumn Sansom and Liz DeBetta sharing their stories, artistry, and insights on the adoptee experience.

Liz, who was adopted at birth, has been using her talents as a writer to share her journey and healing process in her upcoming book, while Rebecca, a dedicated documentary filmmaker, is working on a mission to incorporate more adoptees' voices and create connections. In this heartwarming conversation, we explore the importance of community building, connection, and empathy to heal the primal wound of adoption. We also discuss the power of art in understanding and supporting the adoptee community, and the exciting collaboration between Rebecca and Liz – Operation Fog Lift. So, join us as we celebrate these unique stories, experiences, and the transformative power of art and connection.

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Guest Nicole shares with us her early desires to give back to adoptee community, how she think she wanted to search for her biological family and the point in time when she realized the moment was now.

Nicole is a domestic, transracial adoptee born and raised in Cleveland, Ohio. She grew up knowing she was adopted. Her father, a decorated Marine turned Catholic priest adopted her after she had been left with him when she was three years old. Mother’s Day has always been particularly difficult for Nicole, having been raised by a single Father, it defined the fact that she did not fit in.

Early in her marketing career, Nicole joined the adoption community through volunteer work with Adoption Network Cleveland, a non-profit that supports everyone touched by adoption. After serving on the special events committee, Nicole was asked to join the Board of Directors. Through this work, she accepted adoption as a “complex, lifelong, intergenerational journey with ongoing impact for all whose lives are touched by it.” This epiphany helped her realize her feelings of pain, confusion and self-doubt were a natural part of the adoptee journey – and inspired her to dive into the work of healing. Nicole spent years on what she calls her journey of self-discovery, working to understand how being abandoned and adopted shaped her thought patterns, decisions and relationships.

This journey inspired her to share her truth, validate and uplift her fellow adoptees. In 2019, she launched her blog and social media platforms, “The Adoptee In Me - a place to share the journey of self-discovery.” Since then Nicole has shared her lessons learned about identity, change, loss and love, aiming to inspire reflection and conversation to inspire adoptees to embrace their inner adoptees. She is also a member of the Fireside Adoptees leadership team.

A few years ago, Nicole embarked on a new chapter of her adoptee journey to find the mother who left her behind – and that is the focus of this conversation. The search began with her original birth certificate, involved multiple third-party organizations, and lasted much longer than anticipated. Tune in to join us for a story about the emotional rollercoaster of search, self-discovery, loss and hope.

Connect with Nicole via your social media platforms and Fireside Adoptees
https://www.instagram.com/theadopteeinme/
https://www.facebook.com/theadopteeinme/

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Welcome to Season 3, Episode 5. Let's keep moving forward adoptees, sharing our life experiences and bonding in community. The collective goal of our guests and host is to create a safe space and have key conversations regarding the adoption reunion experience with biological family members. 

Laurie is a domestic adoptee. She was placed in her adopted family at around one month old. She came with some health issues, she had a club foot and eye problems. She was the third adopted child to join the family, she joined a sister and brother, none biologically related. At age 25 she found her bio mom, since then the relationship has been a rollercoaster of emotion. For 20 years Laurie tried to build a relationship with a man she thought was her bio dad. After taking a DNA test, she discovered the truth. Another man was her bio dad. Finding him was easy, but sadness came as he rejected her because of differences in beliefs. In all, Laurie has developed rich relationships with a couple of new siblings. She doesn't regret the search, but wished she had been educated on the many emotional ups and downs this process can take.

Find your people, cherish your people and love your people.

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Guest Amy shares how the longing to find and meet biological family did not manifest until later in life. Growing up she was surrounded by a loving and accepting adopted family; and she felt content with the situation. It was only later, and after having a family of her own, did Amy start to acknowledge the frustration she had felt for years in providing the standard answer to almost every question asked: I Am Adopted!  We listen as Amy talks about the her DNA testing experience, meeting her biological mother, how the relationship with her adopted mother is a bit different now and the realization her own perspective of adoption has morphed. 

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Get your box of Kleenex out for this episode! All I can say about this one is WOW! It is packed with so many amazing moments between Guests Emma Stevens and her cousin Stephanie. They speak on the impact of meeting, attending a showing of Reckoning with The Primal Wound together, sharing information on common family members, how to be the step in a missing ladder and lastly...acceptance.

About Emma StevensEmma Stevens is a U.S. domestic adoptee from birth and has survived layers of trauma that have put her on multiple journeys. She developed the inner strength and courage to surmount the many struggles she faced. Her traumas were born from being an adoptee who struggled with being forced to wear an impossible mask of playing the part of the “good adopted child.”

The Gathering Place: An Adoptee’s Story was Emma Stevens’ first book. She recently released a new book, A Fire is Coming, a page-turning psychological nightmare. When Emma Stevens learned her new next-door neighbor was a psychologist, she innocently asked about how to find a therapist for her own issues. Dr. Carol Brenner decided to accept her as a patient. Against a backdrop of the Laguna Beach Fire, the insidious drama unfolds as Emma finds herself enmeshed in an unhealthy dependency on her therapist, who not only fostered this dependence but also used it to dominate and control her.

Emma has an undergraduate degree in journalism and has completed master’s level course work in psychology, specializing in Marriage, Family, and Child counseling. She has two adult children and two cat children who she adores.

More Emma Stevens

  • Linktree: https://linktr.ee/Authoremmastevens
  • Facebook & Instagram: @emmastevensthegatheringplace
  • Twitter & TikTok: @emmastevensTGP
  • Books: The Gathering Place: An Adoptee’s Story and her most recent release A Fire is Coming

Resources mentioned in the episode

https://familytreemagazine.com/birth-families/finding-birth-family-dna/ and
https://ancestralfindings.com/cousin-relationships-the-easy-way/)
https://www.armswideadoption.org/blog/confessions-finding-your-biological-family/)
The CeCe Moore Facebook Group - DNA Detectives
Family Tree Magazine - Cousinhood Chart
Family Tree Podcast - to better understand genealogy
DNA Painter - Centimorgan Chart to understand DNA relationships
The Leeds Method - DNA Color Clustering

Find your people, cherish your people and love your people.

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Welcome to Season 3, Episode 2. Let's keep moving forward adoptees, sharing our life experiences and bonding in community. The collective goal of our guests and host is to create a safe space and have key conversations regarding the adoption reunion experience with biological family members beyond the parents.

Have you found your biological roots? Learned you have a sibling or two in the process of searching? Now what? What does a potential relationship look like for all the players? Today's guests Lorah and Banner share their experiences over the last three years of becoming connected as sisters. Join them as they dive deep into the reality of becoming someone's surprise and what it has taken for them to build a sibling relationship. These two fantastic women discuss their fears, emotions and dedication to learning together. Their two perspectives of the story lend some very valuable insight into the becoming connected experiences. As we listen to them share their hearts it becomes clear once again no two adoption reunion journeys are the same; and it is okay to to create a space of comfort and growth. Their encouragement is for adoptees and siblings to do what is best for them.

Lorah Gerald, The Adopted Chameleon, can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and Pinterest.

Find your people, cherish your people and love your people.

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Welcome to Season 3, Episode 1. We are glad to be back with everyone in 2023 and we are kicking this season off with a bang! 

Have you found your biological roots? Learned you have a sibling or two in the process of searching? Now what? What is the best method to approach them? Lacking a clue? So were guest Greg Gentry and Host Lisa Ann before they just jumped all in, hit a bump or two and then kept going. 

Join them as they dive deep into sibling relationships, tactics they tried to connect and things they might have done differently; if given a chance for a do over. Their very opposite experiences are a great indicator no two adoption journeys are the same; and it is okay to to create a space of comfort and growth. Their encouragement is for adoptees to do what is best for them.

Connect with Greg on IG @greggentry22
Contact us at: wanderingtreeadoptee.com 

Find your people, cherish your people and love your people.

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In today's conversation with host Adoptee Lisa Ann, our guests touch on the use of social media to connect to other adoptees. We tackle the benefits of using the various platforms such as Facebook pages, Facebook groups, Instagram, Twitter, and TikTok to create a thriving community. 

Please join us in this roundtable discussion, where Wandering Tree Podcast welcomes back to the show Emma Stevens and Lorah Gerald. Experience the fellowship of a simple a group of connected adoptees talking about the lived experience with socials.

Want to connect with the guests? 

Check them out using the following links:  

  • Lorah Gerald, The Adopted Chameleon, can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and Pinterest via her website https://lorahgerald.com/
  • Merchandise available at her Adoptee Shop https://lorahgerald.com/shop
  • emmastevensthegatheringplace

  • Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Emmastevens99
  • IG: https://www.instagram.com/emmastevensthegatheringplace
  • Message: @emmastevensthegatheringplace
  • Twitter & TikTok: @emmastevensTGP
  • https://linktr.ee/Authoremmastevens
  • The Gathering Place: An Adoptee's Story found on: Amazon.com

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Connecting to the adoptee community can be very helpful to the adoptee in search and reunion. In the second instance of a four part series, Host Lisa Ann sits down with the leadership of Fireside Adoptees. This group of dedicated humans are setting the adoptee community on fire by offering a space to discuss adoption from the states of surviving to thriving! They encourage and empower adoptees to work within their Community, Advocate for themselves and others, Mentor those who are farther behind in the journey called life, and set a slow and steady Pace so they don’t burn out.

Their motto in a nutshell is:C community
A advocate
M mentor
P pace

Lots of ways to connect to this group via one or more of the links below:

  • Email: firesideadoptees@gmail.com
  • FB Fireside Adoptees: https://www.facebook.com/groups/1411791922534076
  • IG @firesideadoptees: https://www.instagram.com/firesideadoptees/
  • YouTube Fireside Adoptees: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCtOVAdI8lbW0HTqQhMjVL0A

Individuals

Raya Snow: IG @prestigiouslyholly

Amanda Baum: IG @twin_flame_rising

Nicole Koharik: FB The Adoptee In Me and IG @theadopteeinme

Dusty Sawaer: IG @dustysawaer

Greg Gentry: IG @greggentry22

Books:

  • Chasing Away the Shadows: An Adoptee's Journey to Motherhood by Zara H. Phillips
  • Journey of the adopted self: A Quest for Wholeness by Bette Jean Lifton
  • Adoption Healing: A Path to Recovery by Joseph M. Soll

Video: Paul Sunderland Adoption and Addiction

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In the third of a four part series on adoptees attending biological family reunions, Host Lisa Ann and podcaster Damon Davis have a great conversation. They cover the blessing of a fairytale reunion with a biological mother to the all-in aspects of a family reunion event. Wandering Tree was so grateful for the time these two spent in fellowship and looks forward to the next opportunity.

Here is a bit more about our guest:
DamonDavis is the host of the "Who Am I Really?" podcast (www.whoamireallypodcast.com) where adopted people share their stories of adoption and their attempt to find their birth families. He has interviewed nearly 200 adoptees from an array of life experiences from awful adoptions and amazing reunions to inspiring adoptions and unfortunate reunions.

In his autobiography "Who Am I Really? - An Adoptee Memoir" Damon shares his journey to becoming an adoptive parent and his emotions over the birth of his son, Seth. He opens up about the heartbreak of grappling with his adoptive mother's mental illness while balancing the joy of locating his birth mother working nearby. His journey took a twist when he located his biological father via DNA testing.

Several ways to follow and connect with Damon to include Facebook, Instagram and his website for the Who Am I Really? Podcast

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Adoptees Lisa Ann and Elle attended biological family reunions and have lived to share out their experience. In this session they share some of their thoughts and insights into the anxiety, excitement and details of what it was like to be in the presence of so many new people. Was it horrid or fantastic? Enjoy their laughs and near tears as they speak on the two days of activities.

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Connecting to the adoptee community can be very helpful to the adoptee in search and reunion. Several months ago, Host Lisa Ann sat down with Author and Podcaster Jennifer Dyan Ghoston to discuss the benefits of connection adoptee-to-adoptee. Their lived experiences spawned a creative shared episode, where they listed out a few of their favorite resources.

If you are not familiar with Jennifer, she has been connected to the adoptee community for over a decade and is interested in hearing the personal stories of adoptees from all over the globe. The Truth So Far… is her memoir capturing an open, honest and public adoption experience. To further give into the community, Jennifer hosts the podcast Once Upon A Time...In Adopteeland.

Both Jennifer and Lisa Ann hope you enjoy the spirit of community and creativity in this week's episode.

Want to connect with Jennifer:
http://www.jenniferdyanghoston.com
IG: @onceuponatimeinadopteeland
Twitter: @Jenniferghoston and
FB: Jennifer Dyan Ghoston

RESOURCES DISCUSSED

Podcasts:

  • The Adoption Files - Ande Stanley
  • Who Am I Really - Damon Davis
  • Adoptees On and Adoptees Off Script - Haley Radkey
  • Pulled By By the Root - Heidi Marble
  • Once Upon A Time...In Adopteeland - Jennifer Dyan Ghoston
  • Adopted Feels - Hana and Ryan
  • Adoption: The Making of Me - Louise Browne and Sarah Reinhardt
  • This Adoptee Life - Amanda Medina
  • Black to the Beginning (podcast) hosted by Dr. Samantha Coleman and Sandria Washington

Books/Blogs:

  • The Gathering Place - Emma Stevens
  • The Lies that Bind - Laureen Pitman
  • Tree of Strangers - Barbara Sumner
  • Searching for Mom: A Memoir - Sara Easterly
  • The Truth So Far...: a detective's journey to reunite with her birth family - Jennifer Dyane Ghoston
  • Betty Jean Lifton (author) “Twice Born”
  • Jean Strauss (author) “Beneath a tall tree” and “Birthright”
  • Nancy Verrier (author) “Coming Home To Self”
  • Ann Fessler (author) “The Girls Who Went Away”
  • Julian Washio Collette (Blog) Peregrine Adoptee: Wandering Reflections of a Life in Fragments

Groups:

  • Adoption Mosaic
  • Fireside Adoptees (Private and Public Groups)
  • Adoptees Connect - state chapters / groups
  • Adoptee Voices Writing Group founded by Sara Easterly
  • (Co-facilitators; Ridghaus, Alice Stephens, Kate Murphy and Jennifer Dyan Ghoston) www.adoptee-voices.com

Miscellaneous:

  • Adopteereading.com
  • Bookshop.org/shop/reunionlandpress.

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July is National Family Reunion month, who knew? Adoptees Lisa Ann and Elle are invited to biological family reunions and both have decided to attend. In this session they share some of their thoughts on the why to attend, how they have prepared and their overall fears of meeting several new people at one time. Enjoy their laughs and near tears as the day of the event is imminent. 

Resources: 
Nationaltoday.com
The Children's Trust
GatheredAgain.com 

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Wandering Tree welcomes the Sibling to the show. The Sibling is one of Lisa Ann's three paternal biological sisters, a domestic adoptee from Baby Scoop era and an adopter of three in the late 1990's. Host Lisa Ann and The Sibling connected via their shared DNA match on Ancestry.com in 2019 and started to build out their current relationship from there. It was a virtual roller coaster from the beginning, but through the years, the two have built a great foundation of shared adoptee understanding and strength.

In this episode, Sibling discusses a bit of her own adoption story but quickly dives deeply into her experience of becoming an adopter. She shares everything on how the children came to them, what were some of the most difficult decisions to make to protect their future and how adopters need to enter into this life choice with eyes and hearts wide open.

With all the discussion in the media regarding abortion and adoption positioned as an alternative, the previously recorded session could not have been more appropriate for availability this week. My continued encouragement is to not take a side per se, but to engage by asking questions and listening. The beautiful thing about humankind is we do not have to agree or see it through the same lens. We don’t even have to agree on the content, context or account of the information.

Breaking this topic down a bit further, point blank, adoption is not simple! You see in the space where the response is to position adoption as a no brainer alternative I advocate we don’t take the bait.

Please continue to step back, find an adoptee and talk to them about their lived experience. There are millions of them out there who can discuss the reality of how adoption can be great, in the middle or horrific.

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Guest Mary shares the many ups and downs on the years of search for her birth mother, how the longing to find and meet her became a cycle associated with birthdays and holidays and how she never gave up. We listen as Mary talks about the first planned visit to the final goodbye of the woman she was destined to connect with all in the right timing.

A little about Mary:

As a mom of four and an adoptee, Mary envisioned meeting her birth mother for as long as she can remember. Her story begins as a teen and through many unexpected hurdles and closed doors, her primal pursuit eventually grants her what she’s always been hopeful for. A meeting with her birth mother. The meeting was not what she ever imagined and the surprises that accompanied this meeting truly tested her belief of self worth.

The lessons learned through the process of Mary’s search paved a way for self awareness and growth into adulthood but not without many questions and concerns for herself and other adoptees who may be searching and reuniting.

Mary has spent the last several years sharing her story in the public eye by speaking to groups of people about the importance of adoption and its lifelong effects on adoptees as well as education about the benefits of open adoption and involvement of the birth mothers.

Mary loves to bring hope, education, and knowledge to all people involved in adoptions. She enjoys speaking to potential adoptive parents, foster parents, birth mothers and other adoptees. Mary is working on her first book and continues to enjoy her speaking career locally and virtually across the country. Mary currently resides in the DC area.

Find Mary at:
Website - https://becauseadoption.com/
IG - https://www.instagram.com/becauseadoption/

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Guest Elle Klassen and Host Lisa Ann prepare for another weekend where the ideology of great parenting is celebrated. You guessed it, we jump right in, speak our lived experience and it gets real! We sit down and spend our time together to address another key topic for many adoptees - Fathers.

We want to welcome Elle Klassen back to Wandering Tree Podcast. Elle is an artist, wife, mother, friend. She was adopted near the end of the baby scoop era in 1970, in Canada. She found her first family four years ago, and has since become estranged from her adoptive parents. She has thoughts on adoption. Thoughts that have grown, and evolved during the past few years. She figures it's time to say them out loud, even if they may be difficult for some to hear.

Article mentioned in the episode: https://www.today.com/parents/essay/asian-adoptee-marriage-lost-culture-rcna28379

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Host Lisa Ann sits down with two-time author Paige Adams Strickland, who was born in Cincinnati, Ohio and adopted at 13 months of age. In this episode, Paige shares bits of her story and how her search for biological family began in 1987. While we agree not all adoptees have a great life, and ours was fairly normal, being adopted made us feel exposed.

Connect with Paige via here:
Blog: https://stricklandp.wordpress.com/

Akin to the Truth found on Amazon at: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F28TM86/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2

After the Truth found on Amazon at:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076GQ249K/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0

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Host Lisa Ann sits down with two-time author Paige Adams Strickland, who was born in Cincinnati, Ohio and adopted at 13 months of age. In this episode, Paige shares bits of her story and how her search for biological family began in 1987. While we agree not all adoptees have a great life, and ours was fairly normal, being adopted made us feel exposed.

Connect with Paige via here:
Blog: https://stricklandp.wordpress.com/

Akin to the Truth found on Amazon at: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00F28TM86/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i2

After the Truth found on Amazon at:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076GQ249K/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_bibl_vppi_i0

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Guest Elle Klassen and Host Lisa Ann decided to dive into one of the most difficult topics for many adoptees - Mothers. You guessed it, we jump right in, speak our lived experience and it gets real! 

We want to extend a warm welcome to Elle Klassen. Elle is an artist, wife, mother, friend. She was adopted near the end of the baby scoop era in 1970, in Canada. She found her first family four years ago, and has since become estranged from her adoptive parents. She has thoughts on adoption. Thoughts that have grown, and evolved during the past few years. She figures it's time to say them out loud, even if they may be difficult for some to hear.

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Rebecca Autumn Sansom, director of Reckoning with The Primal Wound, spends time with Host Lisa Ann sharing her love of the book, the process of creative projects and what is on the horizon. A beautiful conversation covering so many thoughts and feelings. It was an honor to have Rebecca read a poem in process called, "I have a secret."

She is excited about the upcoming first theater screening of the movie: Reckoning with The Primal Wound and the opportunity to join remotely for a live question and answer session.

Here is how you can get tickets and find out more about the the first theater screening of Reckoning with The Primal Wound coming to Tulsa, OK, Sunday, May 15.

Go to https://linktr.ee/Lorahwg for tickets. There is a link to the trailer and more information about the movie. There is also information about Circle Cinema and things to do in Tulsa.

Connect with Rebecca via:
IG: https://www.instagram.com/reckoning_with_theprimalwound/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/reckoningwiththeprimalwound
Email: rebecca@blonderecords.com

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Host Lisa Ann sits with The Adopted Chameleon, Lorah Gerald and talks all things adoption. The double quest in Tennessee to find her biological mother and father, three generations of rejections and how a book revered by adoptees was written out of love. To close us out, Lorah shares information on the upcoming first theater screening of the movie: Reckoning with The Primal Wound by Rebecca Autumn Sansom.

Here is how you can get tickets and find out more about the the first theater screening of Reckoning with The Primal Wound coming to Tulsa, OK, Sunday, May 15

Go to https://linktr.ee/Lorahwg or here website. There is a link to the trailer and more information about the movie. There is also information about Circle Cinema and things to do in Tulsa.

Part of the proceeds from ticket sales are going to local nonprofit, Humble Warrior Collective HUMBLE WARRIOR COLLECTIVE builds strong communities filled with hope by providing access to mindfulness and yoga tools, empowering individuals to overcome cycles of neglect, violence, and trauma.

Lorah Gerald, The Adopted Chameleon, can be found on Facebook, Instagram, Twitter, TikTok and Pinterest.

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Wandering Tree welcomes Author Emma Stevens, The Gathering Place, to the show.

In today's conversation with host Adoptee Lisa Ann, our guest touches on her multi-decade journey of search and reunion; even teasing a bit on the adventures and detective skills needed to find ourselves. Having read/listened to this book myself, I can share that it is a must for adoptees! Emma's writing style and narration pull you in from the very beginning and keeps you till the last word. We loved having her as part of the show and look forward to her return and updates in the future.

From Emma Stevens:
Do you have a story to tell? I know you do. We all do. When I told mine in “The Gathering Place,” I was aware that it wasn’t going to be readily accepted by all. What is? The vulnerability it takes to tell your story is no joke. Here’s to us standing strong together.

The Gathering Place: An Adoptee's Story found on: Amazon.com

Learn more: https://www.amazon.com/.../ref=cm_sw_em_r_mt_dp...

emmastevensthegatheringplace

Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/Emmastevens99
IG: https://www.instagram.com/emmastevensthegatheringplace

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Wandering Tree welcomes Mary to the show; a first mother who was forced to relinquish her child for adoption. The day we spoke was a first for both myself and Mary. Neither of us really knew what to expect when it came to having a conversation on the topic of adoption from our differing viewpoints. It was a new experience for me to be talking to a first mother who was not my own; and for Mary to speak to an adoptee not her own. 

The end result is this fantastic episode on just how hard it was to be a pregnant teen and how the situation was handled with little regard to her own feelings and mothering desires. 

Mary is welcoming of all first mothers and adoptees, supporting their journeys and sharing  to help others. 

Connect with Mary via TikTok @contrarybirthmom

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Wandering Tree welcomes Jim Serrano to the show. He is a domestic adoptee, born January of 1962 in San Jose California. He found his biological family in his late thirties and has been in reunion for 22 years. 

Just a few days prior to sharing his story with Adoptee Lisa Ann, his biological mother passed away. While Jim processes through grief, he remains optimistic of the next chapter. He is supported by his loving wife of 37 years, Tina; and their 35 year old daughter Elizabeth.

Jim is welcoming of all adoptees, supporting their journey and sharing his life's journey to help others. 

Connect with Jim via Instagram @jim_serrano216

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Adoptee Lisa Ann and Ande Stanley of the blog and podcast -The Adoption Files - talk extensively about late discovery adoptees (LDA) and how hard it is to gain access to your personal information.

Here is a list of ways to connect with our guest.
Her blog at : \https://theadoptionfilescom.wordpress.com/
Her Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/adoptionfiles
Her Podcast:https:/ /open.spotify.com/show/68DXjPUypeImBmFZr9OOpo?si=9a5fee1cad6944d1

The Adoption Files 
-A place to talk about the emotional and physical challenges of processing our paperwork

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Adoptee Lisa Ann talks with one of her besties on how they are adoption adjacent, what she has witnessed on the search and reunion journey and how she views the topic today. It was a pleasure to have such a good friend join us in the reality of emotions watching things unfold. 

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Let's celebrate Adoptee Lisa Ann's 50th birthday! Today's episode focuses on how birthdays were processed in the past with celebration and sorrow; and how they are different now after having met her biological mother in 2021. 

Lisa Ann and the Husband will also share their thoughts on Season One and what to anticipate in Season Two. 

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Wandering Tree Podcast opens up to the innerworkings of anger with The Mon, The Husband and Adoptee Lisa Ann in an electric discussion. 

In this episode Adoptee Lisa Ann, The Husband and The Mon discuss the emotion of being mad! The Husband is very upset with Lisa Ann’s use of the label Adoptee and how it may diminish her achievements in this world. We get real uncomfortable talking about the lens in which we see ourselves, how adoption has impacted Lisa Ann’s lens and trying to understand if it is warped. 

Want to be a guest on Wandering Tree Podcast to share your story of adoption, search, reunion and the support you experienced from friends and family? 

Contact us at: https://wanderingtreeadoptee.com to set a recording appointment.

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Wandering Tree Podcast is excited to bring back The Mon as our special guest. 

In this episode Adoptee Lisa Ann, The Husband and The Mon discuss the need to be people pleasing humans due to the struggles of adoption, parental abandonment and wanting to fit in. 

The conversation transcends multiple aspects of life; while hitting on the need for support and understanding from our people, as this need to please is also shaping our self worth.  

Want to be a guest on Wandering Tree Podcast to share your story of adoption, search, reunion and the support you experienced from friends and family? 

Contact us at: https://wanderingtreeadoptee.com to set a recording appointment. 

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Wandering Tree Podcast is thrilled to introduce The Mon as a special guest. 

In this episode, The Mon shares how her view of adoption and the struggles of an adoptee searching and in reunion have changed her own approach to the topic. 

Join Adoptee Lisa Ann, The Husband and The Mon as they discuss how their paths have crossed, the relationships have blossomed from friends to family and how the creation of a safe place opened everyone up to vulnerability.

Want to be a guest on Wandering Tree Podcast to share your story of adoption, search, reunion and the support you experienced from friends and family? 

Contact us at: https://wanderingtreeadoptee.com to set a recording appointment. 

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Adoptee Lisa Ann and The Husband discuss the raw feelings of having just lost her biological mother so soon after the start of their reunion process. 

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Adoptee Lisa Ann and The Husband start the discussion of how she broke the code to identify her biological mother. For a searching adoptee finding a name is priceless gift. One found by diligently using a few of these items: 

  • The CeCe Moore Facebook Group - DNA Detectives
  • Family Tree Magazine - Cousinhood Chart
  • Family Tree Podcast - to better understand genealogy
  • DNA Painter - Centimorgan Chart to understand DNA relationships
  • The Leeds Method - DNA Color Clustering

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Adoptee Lisa Ann of Wandering Tree Podcast and the Husband dive right in on the conversation of searching for biological family. Lisa Ann provides the adoptee perspective on why it is important to close the information loop on her early beginnings to now. 

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Host Adoptee Lisa Ann and The Husband dive right in on one of the most difficult topics of adoption for the non-adoptee. In this very first Wandering Tree Podcast S1: Ep 1 they do not hold back. 

Apologies in advance for the heavy breathing of Adoptee Lisa Ann as she was battling some serious congestion. 

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Introducing Wandering Tree Podcast, established with the simple goal of reaching other adoptees who may benefit from just hearing another one of us say it out loud.Â