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Today in our Disney Detective, some details on the reimagining of Splash Mountain, Is Disney losing Mickey Mouse?

In our Tales from the Edge of the Galaxy, a Props bonanza at Walt Disney Archives, Star Fans suddenly wish the Luke Skywalker Cameo didn’t happen

And for our Entertainment News, The stars of Cobra Kai react to a season 5 announcement, Honoring Chadwick Boseman’s legacy

And as always we’ll finish up with our Insightful Picks of the week....and some afterthoughts

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[INTRODUCTIONS] (2-3 minutes)

  • Insights Into Entertainment: Episode 123 “What’s Disney without Mickey?”
  • My informative and entertaining co-host Michelle Whalen

[SHOW SUMMARY] (2-3 minutes)

  • Today in our Disney Detective, some details on the reimagining of Splash Mountain, Is Disney losing Mickey Mouse?
  • In our Tales from the Edge of the Galaxy, a Props bonanza at Walt Disney Archives, Star Fans suddenly wish the Luke Skywalker Cameo didn’t happen
  • And for our Entertainment News, The stars of Cobra Kai react to a season 5 announcement, Honoring Chadwick Boseman’s legacy
  • And as always we’ll finish up with our Insightful Picks of the week....and some afterthoughts

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[SEGMENT 1: Disney Detective] (8-12 minutes)

  • New Details on the Upcoming Attraction Based on The Princess and the Frog
  • https://d23.com/dig-a-little-deeper-with-new-details-on-the-upcoming-attraction-based-on-the-princess-and-the-frog/

  • https://bit.ly/3DFKwJq

    • Previously we discussed on this podcast Walt Disney Imagineering’s plan to reimagine Splash Mountain at Disneyland and Walt Disney World Resorts
    • The intent was to bring new theming inspired by the beloved Walt Disney Animation Studios film The Princess and the Frog to the ride
      • Recently the team at D23 (The Official Disney Fan Club) discussed the changes with Bob Weis, president of Walt Disney Imagineering
      • The results of that interview were published recently on the clubs web site in an August 23rd post.
      • In the talk some of the very first details are revealed about the attraction
    • The theme of the new attraction centers around Tiana’s first ever Mardi Gras performance
      • So much goes into the creative process behind attractions, including in-depth research to spark inspiration.
      • For this upcoming attraction, Imagineers dug deep into the culture of New Orleans—the city Tiana calls home—in order to craft a story authentic to both the region and to the characters.
      • So much makes New Orleans a distinct and unique city.
        • From food, music, art, architecture, and the diversity of its people and their traditions, there is much from which Imagineers can find inspiration.
    • One of the early inspirations was visual artist Sharika Mahdi.
      • Mahdi is an art educator and alumna of the renowned YAYA (Young Aspirations Young Artists, Inc.) Arts Center located in New Orleans.
      • To help inspire Imagineers, Mahdi was commissioned to create a series of four original paintings to inspire Imagineers.
    • The Walt Disney Company recently announced a $50,000 donation to NOCCA (New Orleans Center for Creative Arts)
      • NOCCA is a regional, pre-professional arts training center offering students instruction in culinary, dance, media music, theatre, visual and creative writing arts.
      • The donation was meant to celebrate the inspiration the region provided for the new attraction, Disney’s love for the city of New Orleans and the company’s commitment to the arts and education
    • If you can’t get enough of Princess Tiana, there are so many more exciting ways her story is coming to life in the future including
      • The new Disney Cruise Lines ship the Disney Wish setting sail next year with an all-new lounge, “The Bayou”
      • And the upcoming Walt Disney Animation Studios original series Tiana on Disney+.

  • Disney Will Lose the Rights to Mickey Mouse in 2024, One Company Is Swooping In

  • https://insidethemagic.net/2021/08/disney-lose-rights-mickey-mouse-ad1/
  • https://bit.ly/3t3gsTg
    • When you think of Disney, there are a few iconic images that may come to mind.
      • Perhaps a castle, maybe a favorite princess, but one thing that is universally known as Disney is Mickey Mouse.
    • From the days of Steamboat Willie, Walt’s debut of his little pal, Mickey Mouse, has been the mascot of Disney.
      • Now it seems that Disney is at risk of losing the rights to the character!
      • According to The Hollywood Reporter, “The copyright for Walt Disney’s 1928 cartoon Steamboat Willie — which introduced the world to Mickey Mouse — is set to expire and enter the public domain in three years.”
      • The rights would include the Mickey Mouse that we saw in the film, which is different from other iterations of the character as time progressed.
    • The Hollywood Reporter went on to explain how Disney avoided this happening earlier.
      • Disney successfully lobbied Congress to lengthen the number of years that copyrights can be held in 1988.
      • The law ended up being called the Copyright Term Extension Act but has also received the name “the Mickey Mouse Protection Act.”
      • However, in three years, the rights to Mickey Mouse will end, and Mickey will be up for grabs.
    • It seems “Disney’s legal team might succeed in keeping Walt Disney’s famous character and Mouse House mascot from becoming rights-free,” just as others have done with Dracula or Sherlock Holmes.
      • If not, however, another company is already ready to “eat [Disney] alive.”
      • The Hollywood Reporter announced:
        • MSCHF has launched the “X Famous Mouse.”
        • The company’s ad copy doesn’t call the token “Mickey Mouse” or use its exact imagery – for now – but it’s a placeholder for the iconic character and comes with a unique ticking clock.
        • The idea is you pay for the nondescript mouse-like token today (cost: $100 for one of the 1,000 copies available) and then you receive a physical collectible token for the character that’s redeemable in 2024 – when Disney’s copyright on Mickey Mouse is set to expire.
        • At that time, you’ll receive the real deal.
    • MSCHF CEO Gabe Whaley is clearly not a fan of Disney as he stated
      • “Disney is a massive all-swallowing conglomerate, with a desire for both industry dominance and cultural hegemony.
      • It is ever-growing, all-encompassing, risk-averse, and society-blandening.
      • We must leap at the chance to take back even the scant morsels available to us.
      • At the slightest chance, we must eat them alive.”
    • If Disney does gain the rights to Mickey Mouse, his tokens would likely be void.
      • The idea of creating the coin while Disney still owns the rights may not have been the best move on Whaley’s part.
      • A copyright attorney James Sammataro discussed the situation, and it seems that Disney could have legal grounds to sue MSCHF.
        • “It’s difficult to foresee a scenario where [art] of a “not yet in the public domain work” would not give rise to a prospective claim.
        • Disney can credibly argue that the inchoate [in-ˈkō-ət] license devalues the current value of its licensing rights by diverting up would-be licensees.”
      • It should be noted that even if Disney were to lose the trademark to the original Mickey Mouse, Disney would still own copyrights for later incarnations of the character and Mickey-related trademarks.
    • It will take a few years to see what happens with Disney and the original Mickey Mouse!

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[SEGMENT 2: Tales from the Edge of the Galaxy] (8-12 minutes)

  • Star Wars Props and Costumes Arrive at the Walt Disney Archives
  • https://d23.com/star-wars-props-and-costumes-arrive-at-the-walt-disney-archives/

  • https://bit.ly/38vLxFF

    • The Walt Disney Archives recently received multiple large trailers full of significant props from the most recent Star Wars films, including The Force Awakens, The Last Jedi, The Rise of Skywalker, Rogue One, and Solo.
      • “The containers are full of costumes, props, and set decorations that were actually used during pre-production and filming, and the vast majority appear on screen,” says Rick Lorentz, acquisitions manager for Walt Disney Archives.
      • “Among the collection are a full-size X-wing starfighter, an A-wing, and the cockpit set of the Millennium Falcon.”
    • Aside from the films, most of these items have rarely if ever been seen, aside from the occasional Star Wars Celebration or D23 Expo.
      • The 2019 D23 Expo featured an impressive retrospective called “The Evolution of the Stormtrooper,” which included the wildly popular Sith stormtrooper featured in Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker, the final film in the Skywalker saga.
    • Keeping track of this otherworldly collection and making sure it safely arrives at its new home at the Walt Disney Archives is not an easy task.
      • With Dok-Ondar busy tending to his own collectibles and creatures in his Den of Antiquities at Black Spire Outpost, the job of overseeing this collection transition falls on Madlyn Moskowitz, the Lucasfilm collections & exhibitions archivist.
      • As custodian of the stolen plans, er… Star Wars props, artifacts, and costumes, Moskowitz is herself also making the journey from a galaxy far, far away to join the Walt Disney Archives.
        • “I’m very excited to join,” she says. “I’ll be part of the research team, working directly with Kevin Kern.
        • I’ll be a good point of contact for all things Lucasfilm.”
    • In addition to the thousands of props already sent to the Archives, all future Lucasfilm live-action productions will likely yield additional treasures for collection.
      • But with such a vast and expanding galaxy to explore, how does the Archives team determine what to keep?
        • “In deciding what items we collect and preserve, we want to represent the creative process and the story itself,” says Moskowitz.
        • She says archivists look at the costumes that represent the main characters or any number of creatures who have been prominently featured in the films or, more recently, on the Disney+ live actions series The Mandalorian.
        • “I definitely have an unusual job!” she says.
    • It might seem a gargantuan task to adequately preserve the touchpoints and important props of one of the most significant film franchises in motion picture history, but for now, Moskowitz and the rest of the team are excited to finally bring these items to the Walt Disney Archives.
      • Luke’s X-wing.
      • The Falcon’s seating area.
      • And all those droids!
    • Suddenly, they’re not so “far, far away” anymore. And we can’t wait to see them!

  • ‘Star Wars’ Fans Suddenly Wish Luke Skywalker Cameo Hadn’t Happened

  • https://insidethemagic.net/2021/08/star-wars-fans-luke-skywalker-plo-koon-rwb1/?fbclid=IwAR02iXbk1p6i7HySoulLCeZurPBt6s0nLuvI29BtpHa69bnBH5t-5_8VrKY
  • https://bit.ly/3t5781a
    • When the Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian Luke Skywalker special dropped last week, Star Wars fans were in for a treat. (And an Insightful Pick of the Week)
      • The installment gave a special behind the scenes look at the making of the Season 2 finale episode, “Chapter 16: The Rescue”, which saw Jedi Knight Luke Skywalker (CGI Mark Hamill) return to the Star Wars universe just after the original trilogy era
      • The Mandalorian, for those who don’t know, is set about five years after George Lucas’s Star Wars: Return of the Jedi
    • In addition to Hamill comparing the return of his iconic Star Wars character to “James Bond”, one of the most interesting tidbits that was shared in the Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian episode was the fact that “Chapter 16” director Peyton Reed, executive producer Dave Filoni, showrunner Jon Favreau, and others on the production crew developed an elaborate hoax to convince fans that Skywalker wasn’t actually the Jedi coming back to the Star Wars story.
      • To accomplish this, they commissioned elaborate concept art featuring fan-favorite prequel trilogy and Star Wars: The Clone Wars character, Plo Koon.
      • Koon’s return would have made sense, specifically connecting to the Filoni-directed Season 2, Episode 5 (“Chapter 13: The Jedi”), in which Star Wars: The Clone Wars fan-favorite Ahsoka Tano (Rosario Dawson) made her live-action debut.
      • Koon, after all, was the Jedi who first found three-year-old Ahsoka on her homeworld of Shili, and the two maintained a special bond:
        • Being the one who found her, Plo took her to the Jedi Temple, where she was to be raised to learn the ways of the Jedi. …
        • Through their bond, Plo Koon affectionately calls her “Little ‘Soka” and Ahsoka calls him “Master Plo”.
    • As it turns out, many fans also have an attachment to Ahsoka’s savior — and some of them wish Koon had come back to Star Wars instead of Mark Hamill’s Skywalker.
      • In light of the news that Koon was used as a red herring, fans have even launched a social media campaign asking Disney and Lucasfilm to create an actual Plo Koon series.
        • He was never meant to be in the show.
        • They literally explain it.
        • He was used as a placeholder to hide the Luke cameo.
        • He was never meant to show up.
    • As for Luke Skywalker, his return came at the perfect moment in The Mandalorian saga.
      • He swooped in with his X-wing and a green lightsaber just in time to save Din Djarin, Grogu and company from Moff Gideon and his Dark Trooper squad.
    • Now, the character is expected to return
      • A recent poster teased him making a yellow lightsaber with Grogu as the foundling commences his Jedi Order training
      • That return is expected in The Mandalorian Season 3, Ahsoka, or The Book of Boba Fett or even in the rumored Luke Skywalker series that currently remains unconfirmed.

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[SEGMENT 3: Entertainment News] (8-12 minutes)

  • Ralph Macchio and William Zabka React to Cobra Kai Season 5 Renewal
  • https://comicbook.com/tv-shows/news/cobra-kai-season-5-ralph-macchio-william-zabka-netflix/?fbclid=IwAR19ntQXhamCL_eMQ1zyGZQT0UUXuiFNjGQkpPcKEA-wzy4TyA5L94qLqI0

  • https://bit.ly/2WF7mjt

    • Cobra Kai's fourth season won't even debut on Netflix until December, but the streamer announced on Friday that the popular series will be back for a fifth season and series stars William Zabka and Ralph Macchio are both reacting to the news, sharing their excitement on social media.
      • On Friday, both actors shared the short video clip also shared by the show's official Twitter to celebrate the next chapter in the continuation of the iconic The Karate Kid film franchise.
        • “Thank you, fans!!" Macchio wrote. "More story coming to you! @CobraKaiSeries S5 starts filming soon!"
      • Zabka for his part shared the same sentiment as the official account, that "the dojo is about to be 5x as rad.
        • Cobra Kai has been renewed for Season 5."
    • Cobra Kai is set over three decades after the events of the 1984 All Valley Karate Tournament with the continuation of the conflict between Macchio's Daniel LaRusso and Zabka's Johnny Lawrence.
      • With Season 4 due out in December, it's currently unclear where Season 4 and Season 5 will take the series, but series co-creator Jon Hurwitz suggested earlier this year that there is a lot more story to tell.
        • "We’ve always had a set end game, as to where the story’s going, but we’ve said from the beginning that we weren’t sure exactly how many seasons it’ll take to get there," Hurwitz explained.
        • "We found, even in Season 1 when we were in the writers’ room, there were so many ideas that we had that just didn’t fit into those five hours in the first season, so they ended up getting pushed to the next season.
        • There are ideas that we talked about at the beginning of the show, that showed up in Season 3 or will show up in Season 4.
        • And then, there are ideas that just fall by the wayside.
        • There’s no added pressure to elongate the series.
        • We’re still having a blast making it.
        • There’s still a lot more story to tell, in our minds.
        • "We just finished shooting Season 4 and we have a lot more that we’re excited to do, going forward," Hurwitz continued.
        • "So, we can’t tell you exactly how many seasons we’re going to have, but we know that we’re going to enter each season with enthusiasm and confidence.
        • Eventually, we’ll talk to our friends at Sony and Netflix and say, 'We think this is probably around the time we should be winding it down,' and hopefully they’ll give us that time to do it.
        • We’ll see."
    • Cobra Kai Season 4 will arrive on Netflix in December.

  • Honoring Chadwick Boseman’s Legacy in Marvel Studios’ What If…?

  • https://d23.com/honoring-chadwick-bosemans-legacy-in-marvel-studios-what-if/
  • https://bit.ly/3jynrjS
    • In the second episode of Marvel Studios’ animated series What If…?, now streaming on Disney+, the late Chadwick Boseman reprises his role as T’Challa.
      • The actor originated the role in the live-action feature film Captain America: Civil War in 2016
      • He returned for Black Panther, and Avengers: Infinity War both in 2018, as well as Avengers: Endgame in 2019
    • But What If…? marks the first time Boseman voiced the character in an animated project.
      • Sadly, it also marks the last time the actor got to bring T’Challa to life before his tragic passing last year.
        • “He was so gracious,” executive producer Brad Winderbaum tells D23.
        • “We were so fortunate to have him record for the series.
        • He reprises his role as T’Challa in at least four episodes, in different versions of the character reimagined because of the different states of the universe.
        • We had no idea at the time, when he was recording with us, that this would be his final performance as the character.
        • It is such an honor to have had him record, to have his presence in the show.
        • His performance has the same depth and the same impact that it does in live action; he elevates the material in an incredible way.
        • We’re so humbled.”
    • In the episode of What If…?, T’Challa, the young prince of Wakanda, is accidentally abducted by Yondu and becomes a Ravager.
      • Known as Star-Lord throughout the galaxy, his reputation precedes him… which comes in handy when he crosses paths with the likes of Thanos , Nebula, and Korath the Pursuer, to name just a few.
      • “T’Challa is interesting because he’s not a character who arcs himself,” head writer and executive producer AC Bradley said during the recent virtual press conference for What If…?.
      • “He’s a character who changes the world around him.
      • He doesn’t go through a transformation; he transforms the world.
      • So, how would T’Challa transform outer space?”
    • Director and executive producer Bryan Andrews said he was eager to work with Boseman on what would ultimately be the actor’s final performance as T’Challa.
      • “It was amazing,” he recalled.
      • “We only got a moment, because our episodes are so short compared to everyone who was able to enjoy his presence on Black Panther or even on Civil War.
      • We had him for a moment to do our thing, and we’re so grateful for it.
      • He was one of the first actors to sign on and say, ‘Oh, yeah! I’m going to do that voice.’
      • We were so excited because we really, really wanted to work with Chadwick, and we love Black Panther.”
    • Jeffrey Wright, who voices The Watcher, said he met Boseman several years ago at Comic-Con and had hoped to work with him ever since.
      • “It was a lovely surprise to find out that we would have the opportunity to at least be in the same space with What If…?,” said Wright.
      • “This being his last performance, I find that very moving.”

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[SEGMENT 4: Insightful Picks of the Week] (8-12 minutes)

  • Michelle

    • Crimson Peak
    • https://www.netflix.com/title/80050101
    • https://bit.ly/2WCLm9u
      • Crimson Peak is a 2015 gothic romance film directed by Guillermo del Toro and written by del Toro and Matthew Robbins. The film stars Mia Wasikowska, Tom Hiddleston, Jessica Chastain, Charlie Hunnam, and Jim Beaver. The story, set in Victorian era England, follows an aspiring author who travels to a remote Gothic mansion in the English hills with her new husband and his sister. There, she must decipher the mystery behind the ghostly visions that haunt her new home.

  • Joe

    • Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian, Season 2 Finale
    • Disney+
    • https://www.starwars.com/news/disney-gallery-the-mandalorian-luke-skywalker
    • https://bit.ly/3mXUobT
      • In last year’s Season 2 finale of The Mandalorian, the appearance of a young Luke Skywalker was one of the biggest reveals and best-kept secrets of the acclaimed show thus far.
        • Reaction to the episode was emotionally-charged for many, deeply resonating with generations of fans who were elated to see the Jedi Master in his post-Star Wars: Return of the Jedi prime.
        • The story of the cutting-edge technology used to bring Luke back is the subject of a special extra episode of Disney Gallery: Star Wars: The Mandalorian, which debuted on August 25 on Disney+.
      • “Making of the Season 2 Finale” is a behind-the-scenes look at the making of this celebrated “chapter” of The Mandalorian, with a focus on the technology used for recreating Luke Skywalker.
        • It delves into the collaborative process, including working with Mark Hamill, to create an authentic and fitting recreation, and explores the immense pressure and responsibility the filmmakers had in bringing back one of the most important characters in film history.
      • Disney Gallery: The Mandalorian was an insightful pick previously for both it’s Season 1 and Season 2 documentaries on the Mandalorian
        • We’ve enjoyed all of what the series has had to offer so far.
        • But this episode was a little extra special because of the subject
        • In watching the final episode of Season 2 I had already read the spoilers as I often do
        • I knew what was going to happen, who it was going to be and how it was going to happen
        • Even going into the episode with that foreknowledge I still couldn’t help but get choked up for the last 10 minutes or so of the episode
        • Going into the making of that episode you’d have thought I’d gotten on that giddiness out of me
        • But no, I was an 11 year old once again reliving all the memories and emotions of my youth pretty much through the entire episode
      • As with the previous episodes of the documentary they manage to capture the behind the scenes feel just right
        • You get to see the passion and emotion of the producers, directors, actors and effects people which by itself is infectious
        • You get to see the different options for deaging Mark Hamill as explained in plain english by Jon Favrau
        • Your given a peak behind the curtain at the challenges of keeping the secret and the deceptions deployed to do so
        • And you get to see the filming of the scenes from different angles and then you get to relive that giddiness all over again

  • It’s also worth noting that The Television Academy recognized the second season of The Mandalorian with 24 Emmy award nominations, including Best Drama Series.

    • All are well deserved.

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After Thoughts

  • Carnival of Collectables
  • Free Toy Show
  • http://www.toyshows.org/
  • https://bit.ly/36mGyWK
    • Saturday, September, 11th
    • Carnival of Collectables
    • 368 Cross Keys Rd, Sicklerville, N.J.
  • http://www.toyshows.org/
  • https://bit.ly/36mGyWK
  • Delaware Train Show
    • Saturday, Oct, 9th, 2021

  • Octoberfest Toy Show

    • Sunday, Oct, 10th,
      • Nur Shrine Center
      • 198 S. Dupont Hwy
      • New Castle, De. 19720

  • Retro Con

  • https://retrocons.com/2021/02/12/retro-con-2020-coming-september-26th-and-27th/

  • https://bit.ly/3eWEgBu

    • September 25-26
    • Great Philadelphia Expo Center, Oaks PA

  • MonsterMania Con

  • https://monstermania.net/

  • https://bit.ly/3xwXu8O

    • MONSTER-MANIA 47 SEPTEMBER 24 -26, 2021 HUNT VALLEY, MD
    • MONSTER-MANIA 48 OCTOBER 22 -24, 2021 OAKS, PA

  • Brick Fest

  • https://www.brickfestlive.com/2021-2022
  • https://bit.ly/3ACcPa9
    • Greater Philadelphia Expo Center
    • October 2nd - 3rd

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  • https://www.tixr.com/groups/wizardworld/events/wizard-world-philadelphia-2021-17168

  • https://bit.ly/3wT1C2M

    • November 12-13-14
    • Greater Philadelphia Expo Center, Oaks PA

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0:01:50.960,0:01:54.720 i will have a very interesting

0:01:52.640,0:01:56.799 discussion with our daughter tomorrow on

0:01:54.720,0:01:59.360 tomorrow's podcast

0:01:56.799,0:02:01.520 uh but yeah we didn't podcast last this

0:01:59.360,0:02:04.240 week last week uh we'll chalk that up to

0:02:01.520,0:02:06.399 an act of god yep sure god didn't want

0:02:04.240,0:02:08.640 us podcasting so we didn't he said stay

0:02:06.399,0:02:10.479 in the basement and watch the news yeah

0:02:08.640,0:02:13.200 with everyone else we did we were glued

0:02:10.479,0:02:15.280 to we did get to see uh the cloud go by

0:02:13.200,0:02:18.160 on the security camera which was scary

0:02:15.280,0:02:20.560 it was very scary how close it came

0:02:18.160,0:02:22.800 so but we're back this week we were very

0:02:20.560,0:02:26.480 fortunate we did not get any

0:02:22.800,0:02:28.480 uh damage no injuries um so we were and

0:02:26.480,0:02:30.080 it only blew by about two miles away

0:02:28.480,0:02:33.680 from us yeah on the other side of our

0:02:30.080,0:02:35.920 town so yeah yeah very very close call

0:02:33.680,0:02:39.120 but we're back this week and we are

0:02:35.920,0:02:41.280 talking about disney and star wars and

0:02:39.120,0:02:43.680 all the other stuff that we talk about

0:02:41.280,0:02:46.160 so in today's disney detective some

0:02:43.680,0:02:47.200 details on the reimagining of splash

0:02:46.160,0:02:51.360 mountain

0:02:47.200,0:02:53.120 and is disney losing mickey mouse no

0:02:51.360,0:02:55.599 maybe maybe kind of

0:02:53.120,0:02:58.239 sort of maybe then in our tales from the

0:02:55.599,0:03:00.560 edge of the galaxy a props bonanza at

0:02:58.239,0:03:02.959 walt disney archives

0:03:00.560,0:03:05.599 and star wars fans suddenly wish that

0:03:02.959,0:03:06.640 luke skywalker cameo didn't actually

0:03:05.599,0:03:09.040 happen

0:03:06.640,0:03:12.000 the fickle bunch that they are poo poo

0:03:09.040,0:03:14.720 heads one of which i count myself

0:03:12.000,0:03:17.840 yes you are and for our entertainment

0:03:14.720,0:03:21.280 news the stars of corporate cover cobra

0:03:17.840,0:03:23.040 react to a season five announcement

0:03:21.280,0:03:24.879 and then the honoring of chadwick

0:03:23.040,0:03:26.319 boseman's legacy

0:03:24.879,0:03:28.080 and as always we'll finish up with our

0:03:26.319,0:03:31.120 insightful picks of the week

0:03:28.080,0:03:32.959 and some afterthoughts that uh next week

0:03:31.120,0:03:34.799 you said we'll start ticking those off

0:03:32.959,0:03:37.440 the list yeah because they're finally

0:03:34.799,0:03:40.239 finally coming up to them so which is

0:03:37.440,0:03:43.360 nice yeah but before we do that i would

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0:04:32.080,0:04:34.479 righty

0:04:37.730,0:04:42.400 [Music]

0:04:39.919,0:04:43.960 go for disney detective so our first

0:04:42.400,0:04:47.360 story comes from

0:04:43.960,0:04:50.320 d23.com and as we previously discussed

0:04:47.360,0:04:53.280 on the podcast walt disney imagineerings

0:04:50.320,0:04:56.560 planned to reimagine splash mountain at

0:04:53.280,0:04:59.280 disneyland and disney world resorts so

0:04:56.560,0:05:01.840 the intent was to bring new theming

0:04:59.280,0:05:04.560 inspired by the beloved walt disney

0:05:01.840,0:05:07.840 animation studios film the princess and

0:05:04.560,0:05:11.120 the frog to the ride so recently the

0:05:07.840,0:05:14.160 team at d23 which is the official disney

0:05:11.120,0:05:16.560 fan club discussed the changes with bob

0:05:14.160,0:05:18.639 weiss who happens to be the president of

0:05:16.560,0:05:21.120 walt disney imagineering

0:05:18.639,0:05:23.919 so the results of that interview were

0:05:21.120,0:05:26.639 published recently on the club's website

0:05:23.919,0:05:28.720 in august 23rd post

0:05:26.639,0:05:30.160 in the talk some of the very first

0:05:28.720,0:05:32.800 details were

0:05:30.160,0:05:34.720 revealed about the attraction so the

0:05:32.800,0:05:37.840 theme of the new attraction centers

0:05:34.720,0:05:40.560 around tiana's first ever mardi gras

0:05:37.840,0:05:43.520 performance now so much goes into the

0:05:40.560,0:05:46.880 creative process behind the attractions

0:05:43.520,0:05:48.240 including in-depth research to spark

0:05:46.880,0:05:50.320 inspiration

0:05:48.240,0:05:52.960 so for this upcoming attraction

0:05:50.320,0:05:55.360 imagineers dug deep into the culture of

0:05:52.960,0:05:58.240 new orleans which is the city that tiana

0:05:55.360,0:06:01.039 calls home in order to craft a story

0:05:58.240,0:06:02.319 authentic to both the region and to the

0:06:01.039,0:06:05.360 characters

0:06:02.319,0:06:08.319 so so much makes new orleans a distinct

0:06:05.360,0:06:10.319 and unique city from the food the music

0:06:08.319,0:06:12.479 the art the architecture and the

0:06:10.319,0:06:15.199 diversity of its people and their

0:06:12.479,0:06:17.360 traditions there's just so much which

0:06:15.199,0:06:18.319 the imagineers could find inspiration

0:06:17.360,0:06:21.039 from

0:06:18.319,0:06:25.440 so one of the early inspirations was

0:06:21.039,0:06:28.960 from a visual artist uh shakira mandy um

0:06:25.440,0:06:32.400 and mandy is an art educator and alumni

0:06:28.960,0:06:33.840 of the renowned uh i guess it's yaya i

0:06:32.400,0:06:35.280 don't know

0:06:33.840,0:06:36.199 so it's the young

0:06:35.280,0:06:39.520 uh

0:06:36.199,0:06:41.680 aspirations young artists incorporated

0:06:39.520,0:06:44.240 art center which is located in new

0:06:41.680,0:06:47.199 orleans so to help inspire the

0:06:44.240,0:06:50.000 imagineers uh mandy was commissioned to

0:06:47.199,0:06:52.960 create a series of four original

0:06:50.000,0:06:55.440 paintings to inspire the imagineers the

0:06:52.960,0:06:56.479 walt disney company recently announced

0:06:55.440,0:06:59.680 that they

0:06:56.479,0:07:00.840 were making a 50 000 donation

0:06:59.680,0:07:02.400 to

0:07:00.840,0:07:04.479 nocca

0:07:02.400,0:07:06.080 which is the new orleans center for the

0:07:04.479,0:07:08.639 creative arts

0:07:06.080,0:07:11.199 it's a regional pre-professional arts

0:07:08.639,0:07:14.560 training center that offers students

0:07:11.199,0:07:17.520 instruction in culinary dance media

0:07:14.560,0:07:18.960 music theater visual and creative

0:07:17.520,0:07:21.039 writing arts

0:07:18.960,0:07:22.560 the donation was meant to celebrate the

0:07:21.039,0:07:24.800 inspiration

0:07:22.560,0:07:27.120 that the region provides

0:07:24.800,0:07:28.639 to the new attraction disney's love for

0:07:27.120,0:07:30.479 the city of new orleans and the

0:07:28.639,0:07:32.160 company's commitment to the arts and

0:07:30.479,0:07:34.000 education

0:07:32.160,0:07:36.560 so if you can't get enough of princess

0:07:34.000,0:07:38.400 tiana there's so much more

0:07:36.560,0:07:40.160 about her story which is going to be

0:07:38.400,0:07:43.199 coming out

0:07:40.160,0:07:46.080 one of the things is that the new

0:07:43.199,0:07:47.280 disney cruise line ship the disney wish

0:07:46.080,0:07:49.759 which will be

0:07:47.280,0:07:52.080 starting to hopefully set sail next year

0:07:49.759,0:07:54.319 is going to have a new lounge based on

0:07:52.080,0:07:56.960 her theme called the bayou and then

0:07:54.319,0:07:59.680 there is also an animated series that's

0:07:56.960,0:08:02.400 going to be coming to disney plus uh

0:07:59.680,0:08:04.160 called tiana that's kind of cool

0:08:02.400,0:08:06.080 you know i i i

0:08:04.160,0:08:07.680 there's no secret that i bash disney

0:08:06.080,0:08:08.800 when they deserve to be bashed on the

0:08:07.680,0:08:11.919 show

0:08:08.800,0:08:13.599 but only when they deserve it right no

0:08:11.919,0:08:14.479 so they deserve it quite a lot these

0:08:13.599,0:08:16.720 days

0:08:14.479,0:08:18.319 um but this is one of those situations

0:08:16.720,0:08:19.680 where it's it's nice to see that they're

0:08:18.319,0:08:21.919 not just

0:08:19.680,0:08:23.599 culturally appropriating things and

0:08:21.919,0:08:24.879 profiting off of it they're giving back

0:08:23.599,0:08:27.759 to the community

0:08:24.879,0:08:30.479 they're recognizing the community

0:08:27.759,0:08:32.000 it's it's a very different side of

0:08:30.479,0:08:34.240 disney that we're seeing with this

0:08:32.000,0:08:35.839 particular thing yeah yeah and they're

0:08:34.240,0:08:37.200 changing the ride for all the right

0:08:35.839,0:08:39.839 reasons

0:08:37.200,0:08:41.120 and they're doing it with a modern take

0:08:39.839,0:08:43.360 on

0:08:41.120,0:08:45.680 a princess that represents a whole new

0:08:43.360,0:08:48.560 segment of the population right because

0:08:45.680,0:08:51.279 they could have totally just

0:08:48.560,0:08:53.200 taken out song of the south and just

0:08:51.279,0:08:56.160 exactly it's a bunch of animals right

0:08:53.200,0:09:00.000 you know and not given it any

0:08:56.160,0:09:02.560 movie tie-in or anything and here

0:09:00.000,0:09:05.440 as is a princess who you know has a

0:09:02.560,0:09:08.000 great story has a great background and

0:09:05.440,0:09:10.160 uh you know doesn't necessarily need a

0:09:08.000,0:09:12.240 prince to make her her dreams come true

0:09:10.160,0:09:13.120 because she was doing everything on her

0:09:12.240,0:09:15.279 own

0:09:13.120,0:09:16.880 and yeah she's a great inspiration the

0:09:15.279,0:09:19.279 character itself

0:09:16.880,0:09:22.160 is a great inspiration and it's

0:09:19.279,0:09:24.240 representative of a segment that's all

0:09:22.160,0:09:26.080 too often underrepresented in

0:09:24.240,0:09:28.640 entertainment yeah so

0:09:26.080,0:09:29.600 kudos to them very cool

0:09:28.640,0:09:31.680 so

0:09:29.600,0:09:33.279 the burning question will disney lose

0:09:31.680,0:09:35.920 the rights to mickey mouse let's talk

0:09:33.279,0:09:38.640 about that one i don't know so when you

0:09:35.920,0:09:40.720 think of disney there are a few iconic

0:09:38.640,0:09:43.920 images that come to mind perhaps a

0:09:40.720,0:09:47.120 castle or maybe a favorite princess but

0:09:43.920,0:09:50.480 one thing is universally known as

0:09:47.120,0:09:53.279 but one thing that is universally known

0:09:50.480,0:09:55.120 as disney is mickey mouse so from the

0:09:53.279,0:09:58.000 days of steamboat willie

0:09:55.120,0:10:01.120 walt's uh debut of his little pal mickey

0:09:58.000,0:10:03.519 mouse has been the mascot of disney but

0:10:01.120,0:10:06.480 now it seems that disney is at risk of

0:10:03.519,0:10:08.880 losing the rights to the character so

0:10:06.480,0:10:12.480 according to the hollywood reporter the

0:10:08.880,0:10:14.800 copyright for walt disney's 1928 cartoon

0:10:12.480,0:10:17.680 steamboat willie which introduced the

0:10:14.800,0:10:20.640 world to mickey mouse is set to expire

0:10:17.680,0:10:22.880 and enter the public domain in three

0:10:20.640,0:10:25.120 years so the rights would include the

0:10:22.880,0:10:27.600 mickey mouse that we saw in the film

0:10:25.120,0:10:30.240 which is different from other iterations

0:10:27.600,0:10:32.000 of the character as time progressed so

0:10:30.240,0:10:34.399 the hollywood reporter went on to

0:10:32.000,0:10:36.079 explain how disney avoided this

0:10:34.399,0:10:38.720 happening earlier

0:10:36.079,0:10:41.200 disney had successfully lobbied congress

0:10:38.720,0:10:44.480 to lengthen the number of years that

0:10:41.200,0:10:46.320 copyrights can be held in 1988.

0:10:44.480,0:10:49.279 the law ended up being called the

0:10:46.320,0:10:51.440 copyright term extension act but has

0:10:49.279,0:10:54.320 also received the name the mickey mass

0:10:51.440,0:10:56.560 protection act however in three years

0:10:54.320,0:11:00.160 the rights to mickey mouse will end and

0:10:56.560,0:11:02.720 mickey will end up for grabs so it seems

0:11:00.160,0:11:04.480 that disney's legal team might succeed

0:11:02.720,0:11:07.680 in keeping walt disney's favorite

0:11:04.480,0:11:10.160 character famous character and the

0:11:07.680,0:11:12.560 mouse house mascot from becoming free

0:11:10.160,0:11:15.200 rights just as others have done with

0:11:12.560,0:11:17.680 dracula or sherlock holmes

0:11:15.200,0:11:20.880 if not however another company is

0:11:17.680,0:11:22.800 basically ready to eat disney alive the

0:11:20.880,0:11:24.800 hollywood reporter announced that a

0:11:22.800,0:11:27.519 company called mischief

0:11:24.800,0:11:28.800 uh spelled m s

0:11:27.519,0:11:32.240 h

0:11:28.800,0:11:34.720 has launched its ex-famous mouse

0:11:32.240,0:11:37.680 so the company's ad copy doesn't call

0:11:34.720,0:11:40.000 the token mickey mouse or use its exact

0:11:37.680,0:11:42.480 imagery for now but it's kind of a

0:11:40.000,0:11:45.279 placeholder for the iconic character

0:11:42.480,0:11:47.200 and comes with a unique ticking clock

0:11:45.279,0:11:50.399 the idea is that you pay for a

0:11:47.200,0:11:53.200 non-descript mouse-like token today the

0:11:50.399,0:11:55.760 cost of a hundred dollars for one of the

0:11:53.200,0:11:57.839 1000 copies available

0:11:55.760,0:11:59.600 and then you'll receive a physical

0:11:57.839,0:12:01.519 collectible token

0:11:59.600,0:12:04.320 for uh for the character that's

0:12:01.519,0:12:06.560 redeemable in 2024

0:12:04.320,0:12:09.120 when disney's copyright on mickey mouse

0:12:06.560,0:12:11.440 is set to expire and then at that time

0:12:09.120,0:12:14.880 you'll receive the real deal

0:12:11.440,0:12:17.040 so mischief ceo gabe uh whaley is

0:12:14.880,0:12:19.800 clearly not a fan of disney as he has

0:12:17.040,0:12:22.160 stated he has said disney is a massive

0:12:19.800,0:12:24.399 all-swallowing conglomerate with a

0:12:22.160,0:12:27.839 desire for both industry dominance and

0:12:24.399,0:12:30.639 cultural homogeny it is ever growing

0:12:27.839,0:12:32.000 ever encompassing risk averse

0:12:30.639,0:12:34.880 and society

0:12:32.000,0:12:37.440 blandering we must leap at the chance to

0:12:34.880,0:12:38.720 take back even the scant morsels

0:12:37.440,0:12:41.040 available to

0:12:38.720,0:12:43.360 us at the slightest chance we must eat

0:12:41.040,0:12:44.079 them alive i don't think he really likes

0:12:43.360,0:12:46.399 them

0:12:44.079,0:12:48.639 i can't imagine why you think that yeah

0:12:46.399,0:12:50.800 so if disney does gain the rights to

0:12:48.639,0:12:51.839 mickey mouse his token would likely be

0:12:50.800,0:12:53.680 void

0:12:51.839,0:12:55.680 the idea of creating the coin while

0:12:53.680,0:12:58.399 disney still owns the rights may not

0:12:55.680,0:12:59.600 have been the best move on his part a

0:12:58.399,0:13:01.680 copyright

0:12:59.600,0:13:03.279 attorney discussed the situation and it

0:13:01.680,0:13:06.880 seems that disney could have legal

0:13:03.279,0:13:08.880 grounds to actually sue the company um

0:13:06.880,0:13:11.839 they said it's difficult to foresee a

0:13:08.880,0:13:15.519 scenario where art of a not yet public

0:13:11.839,0:13:18.240 domain work could not give rise to a

0:13:15.519,0:13:20.850 prospective claim disney can credibly

0:13:18.240,0:13:22.079 argue that the uh in

0:13:20.850,0:13:23.120 [Music]

0:13:22.079,0:13:24.880 uh

0:13:23.120,0:13:26.720 [ __ ] wrecked

0:13:24.880,0:13:28.959 license i think i spoke that

0:13:26.720,0:13:30.279 phonetically did you yeah you did

0:13:28.959,0:13:33.760 incoherent

0:13:30.279,0:13:37.839 incoherent okay license devalues the

0:13:33.760,0:13:39.199 current value of its licensing right by

0:13:37.839,0:13:41.360 diverting

0:13:39.199,0:13:43.440 would-be licenses

0:13:41.360,0:13:45.199 it should be noted that even if disney

0:13:43.440,0:13:47.760 were to lose the trademark of the

0:13:45.199,0:13:50.800 original mickey mouse disney would still

0:13:47.760,0:13:52.800 own copyrights for later incarnations of

0:13:50.800,0:13:55.279 the character and mickey related

0:13:52.800,0:13:57.600 trademarks so it'll take a few years to

0:13:55.279,0:14:00.720 see what happens with disney and the

0:13:57.600,0:14:02.560 original mickey mouse see now

0:14:00.720,0:14:04.000 i didn't bash disney on the last story

0:14:02.560,0:14:06.800 but i'm going to bash him on this one

0:14:04.000,0:14:08.480 sure go right ahead disney basically

0:14:06.800,0:14:10.800 strong-armed their way in the

0:14:08.480,0:14:12.320 legislation so they could protect their

0:14:10.800,0:14:13.600 one thing

0:14:12.320,0:14:15.600 and they basically bought the

0:14:13.600,0:14:16.480 politicians that they needed to do this

0:14:15.600,0:14:18.320 which

0:14:16.480,0:14:21.279 i mean welcome to america that's what

0:14:18.320,0:14:23.519 all corporations do right however by

0:14:21.279,0:14:25.600 doing that

0:14:23.519,0:14:27.920 they did it with the intent to protect

0:14:25.600,0:14:29.920 their own but it had far-reaching

0:14:27.920,0:14:31.680 consequences through the entire

0:14:29.920,0:14:34.160 copyright industry

0:14:31.680,0:14:36.639 so you have works of art like

0:14:34.160,0:14:38.560 compositions music compositions

0:14:36.639,0:14:41.120 that have not been able to enter the

0:14:38.560,0:14:42.720 public domain because of disney

0:14:41.120,0:14:46.000 and it had nothing to do with mickey

0:14:42.720,0:14:48.880 mouse so disney's basically held a

0:14:46.000,0:14:52.320 stranglehold on the copyright industry

0:14:48.880,0:14:54.000 for the last 30 some 40 some years now

0:14:52.320,0:14:56.000 just because they didn't want to give up

0:14:54.000,0:14:59.040 the rights to mickey mouse

0:14:56.000,0:15:01.279 when we all know that this incarnation

0:14:59.040,0:15:02.720 of mickey mouse that we're seeing here

0:15:01.279,0:15:04.320 that's one of the earliest versions of

0:15:02.720,0:15:05.199 mickey mouse

0:15:04.320,0:15:07.279 is

0:15:05.199,0:15:10.000 really only a short period of time in

0:15:07.279,0:15:12.880 the copyright history of the mouse

0:15:10.000,0:15:15.279 yeah and if they lost this no one's

0:15:12.880,0:15:17.040 going to identify this mouse as anyone

0:15:15.279,0:15:19.199 other than mickey mouse absolutely or

0:15:17.040,0:15:22.079 associated with anyone other than disney

0:15:19.199,0:15:24.639 so by fiat they basically have a

0:15:22.079,0:15:26.639 monopoly on this character

0:15:24.639,0:15:28.000 and that's really what should be argued

0:15:26.639,0:15:29.839 in this case here is that no one's ever

0:15:28.000,0:15:31.199 going to confuse that as somebody else's

0:15:29.839,0:15:32.240 mouse right

0:15:31.199,0:15:34.720 so

0:15:32.240,0:15:36.720 i don't have a problem if they continue

0:15:34.720,0:15:38.959 to own the copyright to that

0:15:36.720,0:15:40.639 but don't affect the entire copyright

0:15:38.959,0:15:43.360 industry because of that the fact that

0:15:40.639,0:15:46.399 our politicians allowed that to happen

0:15:43.360,0:15:49.279 and basically allowed disney to buy that

0:15:46.399,0:15:52.320 legislation back in the 1980s

0:15:49.279,0:15:54.160 is is inconceivable to me

0:15:52.320,0:15:57.440 you know the fact that you can do that

0:15:54.160,0:15:59.279 and a company can do that for one

0:15:57.440,0:16:00.399 purpose and then it affect everything

0:15:59.279,0:16:02.800 globally

0:16:00.399,0:16:05.279 is well within the united states

0:16:02.800,0:16:07.440 it's idiotic it really is and disney did

0:16:05.279,0:16:10.079 it with a strong arm tactic

0:16:07.440,0:16:12.160 not caring who else it affected

0:16:10.079,0:16:14.160 you know you have artists that aren't

0:16:12.160,0:16:16.880 their estates are not collecting any

0:16:14.160,0:16:19.120 revenue on a lot of these things anymore

0:16:16.880,0:16:22.480 but they legally can't put it up into

0:16:19.120,0:16:24.720 the public domain even if they want to

0:16:22.480,0:16:26.240 because of disney so this is one area

0:16:24.720,0:16:27.920 where disney really needs to stay away

0:16:26.240,0:16:29.839 from trying to get legislation passed

0:16:27.920,0:16:31.759 they're not politicians

0:16:29.839,0:16:33.040 they may own their own country down in

0:16:31.759,0:16:34.560 florida

0:16:33.040,0:16:36.480 with a navy that's bigger than most

0:16:34.560,0:16:38.639 third world countries

0:16:36.480,0:16:40.399 but they shouldn't be trying to pass

0:16:38.639,0:16:42.000 legislation on their own because they're

0:16:40.399,0:16:43.680 not going to do it right

0:16:42.000,0:16:44.720 not that our politicians don't either

0:16:43.680,0:16:46.480 yeah well

0:16:44.720,0:16:48.399 but anyway that's why soapbox ran on

0:16:46.480,0:16:50.399 disney for this week okay i kept it

0:16:48.399,0:16:52.320 brief didn't i yeah that was good

0:16:50.399,0:16:55.199 not bad at all so that was all we had

0:16:52.320,0:16:57.519 for our disney detective we'll be back

0:16:55.199,0:17:00.759 shortly with our tales from the edge of

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0:18:13.200,0:18:17.679 go for tails from the edge of the galaxy

0:18:15.440,0:18:21.120 so the walt disney archives recently

0:18:17.679,0:18:24.080 received multiple large trailer fulls of

0:18:21.120,0:18:26.480 significant props from the most recent

0:18:24.080,0:18:29.440 star wars films including the force

0:18:26.480,0:18:33.200 awakens the last jedi the rise of

0:18:29.440,0:18:35.280 skywalker rogue one and solo

0:18:33.200,0:18:38.640 the containers are full of costumes

0:18:35.280,0:18:40.960 props and set decorations that were

0:18:38.640,0:18:43.520 actually used during pre-production and

0:18:40.960,0:18:47.600 filming and the vast majority appeared

0:18:43.520,0:18:50.080 on screen says rick uh lawrence who

0:18:47.600,0:18:52.720 is the acquisitions manager for the walt

0:18:50.080,0:18:55.360 disney archives among the collection are

0:18:52.720,0:18:57.679 a large size x-wing starfighter an

0:18:55.360,0:19:00.160 a-wing and the cockpit set of the

0:18:57.679,0:19:02.559 millennium falcon so aside from the

0:19:00.160,0:19:05.280 films most of these items have rarely if

0:19:02.559,0:19:07.600 ever be been seen except

0:19:05.280,0:19:10.559 aside from the occasional star wars

0:19:07.600,0:19:11.480 celebration or d23 expo

0:19:10.559,0:19:15.520 so the

0:19:11.480,0:19:17.919 2019 d23 expo featured an impressive

0:19:15.520,0:19:20.640 retrospect called the evolution of the

0:19:17.919,0:19:22.080 stormtrooper which included the wildly

0:19:20.640,0:19:24.400 popular sith

0:19:22.080,0:19:27.520 stormtrooper which is featured in star

0:19:24.400,0:19:30.480 wars the rise of skywalker uh the final

0:19:27.520,0:19:33.520 film of the skywalker saga so keeping

0:19:30.480,0:19:35.760 track of these otherworldly collections

0:19:33.520,0:19:39.039 and making sure it safely arrives at its

0:19:35.760,0:19:42.799 new home in the walt disney archives is

0:19:39.039,0:19:45.200 not an easy task so with doc ondors busy

0:19:42.799,0:19:47.520 tending to his own collectibles and

0:19:45.200,0:19:50.640 creatures in his den of antiquities at

0:19:47.520,0:19:53.679 blackspire outpost the job of overseeing

0:19:50.640,0:19:55.679 this collection transition uh falls on

0:19:53.679,0:19:58.640 madeleine moskowitz

0:19:55.679,0:20:00.960 the lucasfilms collections and

0:19:58.640,0:20:03.360 exhibitions archivists say that five

0:20:00.960,0:20:07.039 times fast so as the con

0:20:03.360,0:20:08.880 as the custodian of stolen plans or

0:20:07.039,0:20:11.280 star wars props

0:20:08.880,0:20:13.520 artifacts and costumes

0:20:11.280,0:20:16.320 she herself is also making the journey

0:20:13.520,0:20:19.039 from a galaxy far far away to join the

0:20:16.320,0:20:21.200 walt disney archives she had said i'm

0:20:19.039,0:20:23.600 very excited to join i'll be part of the

0:20:21.200,0:20:25.840 research team working directly with

0:20:23.600,0:20:28.960 kevin kern it'll be a good point of

0:20:25.840,0:20:31.520 contact for all things lucasfilms

0:20:28.960,0:20:34.240 so in addition to the thousands of props

0:20:31.520,0:20:36.640 already sent to the archives all future

0:20:34.240,0:20:38.960 lucasfilm live-action productions will

0:20:36.640,0:20:41.520 likely yield additional treasures for

0:20:38.960,0:20:43.919 the collection but with such a vast and

0:20:41.520,0:20:47.039 expanding galaxy to explore how does the

0:20:43.919,0:20:50.080 archive team determine what to keep she

0:20:47.039,0:20:51.760 had said in deciding what items we

0:20:50.080,0:20:54.240 collect and preserve we want to

0:20:51.760,0:20:57.039 represent the creative process and the

0:20:54.240,0:20:58.880 story itself she says archivists look at

0:20:57.039,0:21:01.360 the costumes that represent the main

0:20:58.880,0:21:03.840 characters or a number of creatures who

0:21:01.360,0:21:06.240 have been predominantly featured in the

0:21:03.840,0:21:09.520 films or more recently on the disney

0:21:06.240,0:21:11.600 plus live action series the mandalorian

0:21:09.520,0:21:12.559 she says i definitely have an unusual

0:21:11.600,0:21:16.480 job

0:21:12.559,0:21:19.200 it might seem like a gargantuan task to

0:21:16.480,0:21:20.799 adequately preserve the touch points and

0:21:19.200,0:21:23.600 important props of one of the most

0:21:20.799,0:21:27.120 significant film franchises in motion

0:21:23.600,0:21:29.440 picture history but for now she says

0:21:27.120,0:21:31.760 herself and the rest of the team are

0:21:29.440,0:21:35.600 excited to finally bring these items to

0:21:31.760,0:21:38.720 the walt disney archives such as luke's

0:21:35.600,0:21:42.400 x-wing the falcon seating area and

0:21:38.720,0:21:45.600 obviously all those droids so suddenly

0:21:42.400,0:21:48.080 we're not so far far away anymore

0:21:45.600,0:21:49.440 and we can't wait to see them all

0:21:48.080,0:21:51.280 and you know

0:21:49.440,0:21:54.960 they need to do something you either

0:21:51.280,0:21:57.760 need a traveling exhibit yes i agree you

0:21:54.960,0:22:00.000 need a behind the scenes look at the

0:21:57.760,0:22:01.840 props and go through the things because

0:22:00.000,0:22:04.000 i would love to see

0:22:01.840,0:22:06.080 the creative process in creating these

0:22:04.000,0:22:07.280 things what where does the inspiration

0:22:06.080,0:22:09.679 come from

0:22:07.280,0:22:11.679 what's the process look like right they

0:22:09.679,0:22:13.200 had the one prop show on disney plus

0:22:11.679,0:22:14.000 that we love where they were hunting

0:22:13.200,0:22:16.080 down

0:22:14.000,0:22:18.480 right lost props and stuff

0:22:16.080,0:22:20.640 and that was really cool to see that you

0:22:18.480,0:22:23.360 get the history of the props but i would

0:22:20.640,0:22:26.400 love to see them open up the archives

0:22:23.360,0:22:28.159 yeah just just take cameras through and

0:22:26.400,0:22:30.799 show you this stuff and talk about it

0:22:28.159,0:22:32.559 and i'm surprised that they haven't done

0:22:30.799,0:22:34.240 anything like that over the years

0:22:32.559,0:22:36.720 because yeah you've gotten little

0:22:34.240,0:22:38.840 glimpse here and there of things but

0:22:36.720,0:22:41.760 never like a real

0:22:38.840,0:22:43.440 full-fledged tour right you know of it

0:22:41.760,0:22:44.640 and i could understand you don't want

0:22:43.440,0:22:45.919 people in it because you don't want

0:22:44.640,0:22:48.159 people touching certain things or

0:22:45.919,0:22:51.200 whatever but now especially now that you

0:22:48.159,0:22:54.640 have disney plus yeah you could do

0:22:51.200,0:22:56.640 hours upon hours of that you know and

0:22:54.640,0:22:58.159 not just star wars because star wars

0:22:56.640,0:23:01.600 could be its own

0:22:58.159,0:23:03.600 series of just all the star wars props

0:23:01.600,0:23:06.000 that you have and the history behind it

0:23:03.600,0:23:07.679 and you know who made this and you know

0:23:06.000,0:23:09.520 this was the first version of something

0:23:07.679,0:23:10.880 and you know this was the last version

0:23:09.520,0:23:13.520 of something or this was a version that

0:23:10.880,0:23:15.360 we never even used just like the x-wing

0:23:13.520,0:23:16.720 i mean to look at the differences in the

0:23:15.360,0:23:20.880 x-wing

0:23:16.720,0:23:23.120 from a new hope until last jedi or rise

0:23:20.880,0:23:25.120 of skywalker would just be awesome to

0:23:23.120,0:23:27.200 see that evolution and see how they

0:23:25.120,0:23:28.240 decided to change things and modernize

0:23:27.200,0:23:30.400 them and

0:23:28.240,0:23:31.360 um so disney if anyone from disney is

0:23:30.400,0:23:33.039 listening

0:23:31.360,0:23:35.600 you've got a show right there that's a

0:23:33.039,0:23:37.360 guaranteed hit absolutely even if you

0:23:35.600,0:23:39.760 even if you don't do disney props and

0:23:37.360,0:23:40.960 just do star wars that's like 10 seasons

0:23:39.760,0:23:44.960 right there

0:23:40.960,0:23:47.200 totally yeah 10 seasons 10 seasons i say

0:23:44.960,0:23:50.320 and that comes from a fickle star wars

0:23:47.200,0:23:52.480 fan who was one of many who i don't

0:23:50.320,0:23:54.240 actually wish that lucas i or her cameo

0:23:52.480,0:23:56.320 didn't happen but some did let's talk

0:23:54.240,0:23:59.039 about that yeah so when the disney

0:23:56.320,0:24:02.320 gallery the mandalorian luke skywalker

0:23:59.039,0:24:04.880 special dropped la uh a few weeks ago uh

0:24:02.320,0:24:07.919 star wars fans were in for a treat and

0:24:04.880,0:24:10.559 an insightful pick hmm

0:24:07.919,0:24:12.480 teasers uh the installment gave a

0:24:10.559,0:24:15.679 special behind-the-scenes look at the

0:24:12.480,0:24:19.600 making of the season two finale episode

0:24:15.679,0:24:22.799 chapter 16 the rescue which saw jedi

0:24:19.600,0:24:25.279 knight luke skywalker the cgi version of

0:24:22.799,0:24:28.240 mark hamill returned to the star wars

0:24:25.279,0:24:29.840 universe just after the original trilogy

0:24:28.240,0:24:32.159 error

0:24:29.840,0:24:34.240 so the mandalorian for those who don't

0:24:32.159,0:24:36.559 know is set about five years after

0:24:34.240,0:24:37.600 george lucas's star wars return of the

0:24:36.559,0:24:40.159 jedi

0:24:37.600,0:24:42.559 in addition to hamel comparing the

0:24:40.159,0:24:44.880 return of his iconic star wars character

0:24:42.559,0:24:47.200 to james bond one of the most

0:24:44.880,0:24:49.520 interesting tidbits that was shared in

0:24:47.200,0:24:52.080 the disney gallery the mandalorian

0:24:49.520,0:24:55.440 episode was the fact that chapter 16

0:24:52.080,0:24:58.640 director peyton reed executive producer

0:24:55.440,0:25:01.120 dave filoni show runner john favreau and

0:24:58.640,0:25:04.240 others on the production crew developed

0:25:01.120,0:25:07.279 an elaborate hoax to concede

0:25:04.240,0:25:09.200 to convince fans that skywalker wasn't

0:25:07.279,0:25:12.400 actually the jedi coming back to the

0:25:09.200,0:25:14.400 star wars story to accomplish this they

0:25:12.400,0:25:17.600 commissioned elaborate concept art

0:25:14.400,0:25:20.159 featuring a fan favorite prequel trilogy

0:25:17.600,0:25:21.200 and star wars clone wars character plo

0:25:20.159,0:25:23.679 koon

0:25:21.200,0:25:26.720 kun's return would have made sense

0:25:23.679,0:25:29.360 specifically connecting to the filoni

0:25:26.720,0:25:33.360 directed season 2 episode

0:25:29.360,0:25:36.799 5 chapter 13 the jedi in which star wars

0:25:33.360,0:25:40.320 clone wars fan favorite ahsoka tana made

0:25:36.799,0:25:42.559 her live-action debut so cloon

0:25:40.320,0:25:45.200 after all was the jedi who first found

0:25:42.559,0:25:48.000 the three-year-old ahsoka on her home

0:25:45.200,0:25:48.960 world and the two maintained a special

0:25:48.000,0:25:51.760 bond

0:25:48.960,0:25:53.919 bringing the one who found her plune

0:25:51.760,0:25:56.240 took her to the jedi temple where she

0:25:53.919,0:25:58.799 was then raised to learn the ways of the

0:25:56.240,0:26:01.200 jedi and throughout their bond placoon

0:25:58.799,0:26:02.960 affectionately called her little soka

0:26:01.200,0:26:04.159 and ahsoka

0:26:02.960,0:26:05.679 called him

0:26:04.159,0:26:08.880 master plu

0:26:05.679,0:26:11.440 as it turns out many fans also have an

0:26:08.880,0:26:14.080 attachment to ahsoka's

0:26:11.440,0:26:16.159 savior and some of them wish that cloon

0:26:14.080,0:26:18.880 had come back to star wars instead of

0:26:16.159,0:26:21.039 mark hamill skywalker so in light of the

0:26:18.880,0:26:23.440 noons that cloon

0:26:21.039,0:26:26.559 was used as a red herring fans have been

0:26:23.440,0:26:29.360 launching a social media campaign asking

0:26:26.559,0:26:32.080 disney and lucasfilms to create an

0:26:29.360,0:26:34.080 actual plo-coon series

0:26:32.080,0:26:36.240 but they basically said he was never

0:26:34.080,0:26:38.320 meant to be on the show they literally

0:26:36.240,0:26:41.039 explained it all he was used as a

0:26:38.320,0:26:43.520 placeholder to hide luke's cameo

0:26:41.039,0:26:46.000 he was never meant to show up so as for

0:26:43.520,0:26:49.200 luke skywalker his return came at a

0:26:46.000,0:26:51.760 perfect moment in the mandalorian saga

0:26:49.200,0:26:55.840 he swooped in with his x-wing and a

0:26:51.760,0:26:56.720 green lightsaber just in time to save uh

0:26:55.840,0:27:00.400 din

0:26:56.720,0:27:02.559 jiren uh grog i'd know i totally screwed

0:27:00.400,0:27:04.240 that up

0:27:02.559,0:27:07.360 i'm sorry

0:27:04.240,0:27:09.520 din jaren star wars star wars names

0:27:07.360,0:27:13.200 really don't work with you

0:27:09.520,0:27:15.840 hey so don't grogo uh and company from

0:27:13.200,0:27:17.840 moff gideon played by who

0:27:15.840,0:27:19.279 juan carlos

0:27:17.840,0:27:23.039 you know what

0:27:19.279,0:27:23.039 giancarlo esposito

0:27:24.000,0:27:28.640 excuse me i'm sorry i didn't need to get

0:27:26.159,0:27:29.919 that out my yeah and his dark trooper

0:27:28.640,0:27:30.220 squad

0:27:29.919,0:27:32.880 jerk

0:27:30.220,0:27:35.120 [Laughter]

0:27:32.880,0:27:38.080 and now the character is expected to

0:27:35.120,0:27:40.799 return a recent poster teased him making

0:27:38.080,0:27:43.200 a yellow lightsaber with grogu as the

0:27:40.799,0:27:45.760 foundling commences his jedi order

0:27:43.200,0:27:49.679 training that return is expected in the

0:27:45.760,0:27:52.399 mandalorian season 3 ahsoka or the book

0:27:49.679,0:27:55.120 of boba fett or even the rumored luke

0:27:52.399,0:27:56.880 skywalker series that currently remains

0:27:55.120,0:27:57.919 unconfirmed

0:27:56.880,0:27:59.360 so

0:27:57.919,0:28:02.000 yeah it was

0:27:59.360,0:28:04.720 it was cool i don't know why people were

0:28:02.000,0:28:06.960 upset i mean people were like on twitter

0:28:04.720,0:28:09.600 literally upset that it was

0:28:06.960,0:28:12.399 luke skywalker where i was like as happy

0:28:09.600,0:28:14.159 as khabib and crying happy tears that it

0:28:12.399,0:28:16.960 was luke skywalker well and like

0:28:14.159,0:28:18.960 everyone saw plokun dying

0:28:16.960,0:28:20.960 revenge of the sith so you kind of knew

0:28:18.960,0:28:23.279 it wasn't going to be him

0:28:20.960,0:28:26.559 like you literally see him shot down and

0:28:23.279,0:28:27.760 and his fighter crash like if anyone's

0:28:26.559,0:28:28.880 going to make it out of revenge of the

0:28:27.760,0:28:30.799 sith it's probably going to be something

0:28:28.880,0:28:33.039 like samuel l jackson's base windu

0:28:30.799,0:28:34.880 character okay right i could see that

0:28:33.039,0:28:36.159 had his arm chopped off was electrocuted

0:28:34.880,0:28:38.799 and thrown out a window but you already

0:28:36.159,0:28:40.240 saw him survive a massive fall in attack

0:28:38.799,0:28:41.120 of the clones

0:28:40.240,0:28:43.279 so

0:28:41.120,0:28:46.320 he's probably alive

0:28:43.279,0:28:46.320 somewhere i don't think

0:28:46.399,0:28:48.960 she never

0:28:47.919,0:28:51.279 knows

0:28:48.960,0:28:52.640 but he's probably dead

0:28:51.279,0:28:54.480 anyway

0:28:52.640,0:28:56.399 that's all we had for our tales from the

0:28:54.480,0:28:59.120 edge of the galaxy this week

0:28:56.399,0:29:00.799 we'll be back momentarily with our and

0:28:59.120,0:29:02.320 uh not our insightful picks we still

0:29:00.799,0:29:04.799 have another segment to do we'll be back

0:29:02.320,0:29:08.679 with our entertainment news of the week

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0:30:19.360,0:30:24.799 go for entertainment news so cobra kai's

0:30:22.640,0:30:28.240 fourth season won't even debut on

0:30:24.799,0:30:30.480 netflix until december but the streamer

0:30:28.240,0:30:33.039 announced last week that the popular

0:30:30.480,0:30:36.960 series will be back for a fifth season

0:30:33.039,0:30:38.960 and series stars william zapka and ralph

0:30:36.960,0:30:40.159 macchio both

0:30:38.960,0:30:41.840 had

0:30:40.159,0:30:44.399 reacted to the news sharing their

0:30:41.840,0:30:46.960 excitement on social media so both

0:30:44.399,0:30:48.880 actors shared a short video clip that

0:30:46.960,0:30:51.120 also was shared by the show's official

0:30:48.880,0:30:54.000 twitter to celebrate the next chapter in

0:30:51.120,0:30:57.679 the continuation of the iconic the

0:30:54.000,0:31:00.159 karate kid film franchise thank you fans

0:30:57.679,0:31:02.159 machio said more story coming to you

0:31:00.159,0:31:05.440 cobra kai series

0:31:02.159,0:31:07.760 season 5 starts filming soon uh zapka

0:31:05.440,0:31:10.640 for his part shared the same sentiment

0:31:07.760,0:31:13.679 on the official account that the dojo is

0:31:10.640,0:31:16.080 about to be five times as rad kobrakai

0:31:13.679,0:31:18.320 has been renewed for season five so

0:31:16.080,0:31:21.360 cobra kai is set over three decades

0:31:18.320,0:31:24.080 after the events of the 1984 all valley

0:31:21.360,0:31:27.120 karate tournament with the continuation

0:31:24.080,0:31:30.000 of the conflict between machios daniel

0:31:27.120,0:31:32.559 larusso and zapka's johnny

0:31:30.000,0:31:34.799 lawrence with season four due out in

0:31:32.559,0:31:37.279 december it's currently unclear where

0:31:34.799,0:31:40.399 season four and season five will take

0:31:37.279,0:31:43.360 the series but the series co-creator uh

0:31:40.399,0:31:45.360 john hurts uh suggested earlier this

0:31:43.360,0:31:48.480 year that there was a lot more story to

0:31:45.360,0:31:51.440 tell he said we've always had a set end

0:31:48.480,0:31:53.120 game and as to where the story is going

0:31:51.440,0:31:55.519 but we've said from the beginning that

0:31:53.120,0:31:58.159 we weren't exactly sure how many seasons

0:31:55.519,0:32:00.480 it'll take to get there we found even in

0:31:58.159,0:32:02.960 season one that when we were in the

0:32:00.480,0:32:05.679 writers room there were so many ideas

0:32:02.960,0:32:08.000 that we had that we just didn't fit that

0:32:05.679,0:32:10.159 they didn't fit into the five hours of

0:32:08.000,0:32:12.320 the first season so they ended up being

0:32:10.159,0:32:14.720 pushed into the next season then there

0:32:12.320,0:32:16.799 were ideas that we talked about uh at

0:32:14.720,0:32:18.960 the beginning of the show that showed up

0:32:16.799,0:32:21.039 in season three that now are going to

0:32:18.960,0:32:22.799 show up in season four and then there

0:32:21.039,0:32:25.760 are ideas that just kind of fell by the

0:32:22.799,0:32:27.919 wayside so there's no added pressure to

0:32:25.760,0:32:30.320 elongate the series we're still having a

0:32:27.919,0:32:32.960 blast making it there is still a lot

0:32:30.320,0:32:34.559 more story to tell in our minds we just

0:32:32.960,0:32:37.360 finished shooting season four and we

0:32:34.559,0:32:39.760 have a lot more that we're excited to do

0:32:37.360,0:32:42.000 so we can't tell you exactly how many

0:32:39.760,0:32:43.919 seasons we're going to have but we know

0:32:42.000,0:32:46.480 that we're going to enter each season

0:32:43.919,0:32:48.480 with enthusiasm and confidence

0:32:46.480,0:32:50.640 eventually we'll talk to our friends at

0:32:48.480,0:32:52.240 sony and netflix and say we think this

0:32:50.640,0:32:54.320 is probably around the time we should be

0:32:52.240,0:32:56.799 winding it down and hopefully they'll

0:32:54.320,0:32:59.360 give us the time to do it so we'll see

0:32:56.799,0:33:01.440 so cobra kai season 4 will arrive on

0:32:59.360,0:33:03.279 netflix in december

0:33:01.440,0:33:05.519 the one thing encouraging thing that i

0:33:03.279,0:33:07.039 took away from this is that

0:33:05.519,0:33:09.440 they had

0:33:07.039,0:33:12.159 an end game in mind when they put this

0:33:09.440,0:33:13.679 whole plot series together yep and i

0:33:12.159,0:33:15.360 could see how they may have gone in

0:33:13.679,0:33:16.720 different directions they may have added

0:33:15.360,0:33:19.039 some additional

0:33:16.720,0:33:20.960 drama to it a little more relationship

0:33:19.039,0:33:22.000 stuff but they kind of knew where

0:33:20.960,0:33:24.240 they're going they didn't just sort of

0:33:22.000,0:33:25.120 start down this idea right and just kind

0:33:24.240,0:33:27.600 of

0:33:25.120,0:33:29.279 go with it and say yeah and it also

0:33:27.600,0:33:30.880 sounds like

0:33:29.279,0:33:32.799 they're being given

0:33:30.880,0:33:35.039 the runway in order to tell this whole

0:33:32.799,0:33:37.760 story and they're basically calling the

0:33:35.039,0:33:39.440 shots as to when it's the story is done

0:33:37.760,0:33:40.960 which means you're not gonna hopefully

0:33:39.440,0:33:42.799 you're not gonna have it canceled in the

0:33:40.960,0:33:44.559 middle of the story without an ending

0:33:42.799,0:33:46.640 right right which is which is an

0:33:44.559,0:33:47.600 encouraging thing yeah and fortunately

0:33:46.640,0:33:50.399 each

0:33:47.600,0:33:51.919 season hasn't been like a full year

0:33:50.399,0:33:54.080 because you you know you also get to the

0:33:51.919,0:33:56.960 point where they're high school kids

0:33:54.080,0:34:00.320 right so you can only be in the house

0:33:56.960,0:34:02.240 too quickly for so long but usually each

0:34:00.320,0:34:04.880 you know it's like usually two seasons

0:34:02.240,0:34:07.039 or kind of almost a year or not even

0:34:04.880,0:34:09.679 because they're usually only 10

0:34:07.039,0:34:11.760 you know episodes so it's not so they

0:34:09.679,0:34:13.359 can kind of elongate it but then you

0:34:11.760,0:34:14.240 have to be careful again because you do

0:34:13.359,0:34:15.839 have

0:34:14.240,0:34:17.919 you know

0:34:15.839,0:34:21.040 young actors that they don't all of a

0:34:17.919,0:34:24.079 sudden look too old well and if anyone

0:34:21.040,0:34:26.399 can sympathize with that ralph macchio

0:34:24.079,0:34:27.839 because he was like 30 when he started

0:34:26.399,0:34:30.320 right

0:34:27.839,0:34:33.440 and he looks like he's like 20 now right

0:34:30.320,0:34:36.159 he he hasn't aged at all so yeah yeah

0:34:33.440,0:34:39.119 but yeah and and you know we both like

0:34:36.159,0:34:40.960 the the show absolutely yeah it kind of

0:34:39.119,0:34:42.480 it hits on all those touch points it's a

0:34:40.960,0:34:44.800 little campy

0:34:42.480,0:34:46.879 it's modernized but it's campy in a good

0:34:44.800,0:34:49.440 way right like they're not

0:34:46.879,0:34:51.760 they're not relying on the past or

0:34:49.440,0:34:53.520 letting the past feed the present

0:34:51.760,0:34:55.040 um which is really nice especially some

0:34:53.520,0:34:58.320 of the stuff they did

0:34:55.040,0:35:00.400 with the trip to japan last season right

0:34:58.320,0:35:03.119 how they played that out and

0:35:00.400,0:35:04.880 saving the business and it's very clever

0:35:03.119,0:35:07.040 the way that they're doing these things

0:35:04.880,0:35:08.400 and it's it's not one of these where oh

0:35:07.040,0:35:10.480 well of course you're gonna do that

0:35:08.400,0:35:12.400 because you know you're gonna you're

0:35:10.480,0:35:14.400 gonna wax the cars right you gotta do

0:35:12.400,0:35:17.119 that right but they haven't waxed a car

0:35:14.400,0:35:19.280 yet nope you know there's references to

0:35:17.119,0:35:20.960 it there's there's flashbacks to it

0:35:19.280,0:35:23.040 right there's jokes about it like where

0:35:20.960,0:35:24.960 am i gonna do that right right so it's

0:35:23.040,0:35:27.119 really clever cleverly done the way they

0:35:24.960,0:35:28.480 do it i give full props to the creators

0:35:27.119,0:35:31.040 yeah yeah

0:35:28.480,0:35:33.920 speaking of full props

0:35:31.040,0:35:36.079 marvel has decided to honor chadwick

0:35:33.920,0:35:38.880 boseman how'd they do that yeah so in

0:35:36.079,0:35:41.280 the second episode of marvel studios

0:35:38.880,0:35:43.599 animated series what if which is now

0:35:41.280,0:35:46.400 streaming on disney plus the late

0:35:43.599,0:35:49.680 chadwick boseman reprises his role as

0:35:46.400,0:35:52.240 t'challa so the actor originated the

0:35:49.680,0:35:55.680 role in the live action feature film

0:35:52.240,0:35:57.839 captain america civil war in 2016.

0:35:55.680,0:36:02.079 he returned for black panther and

0:35:57.839,0:36:04.800 avengers affinity war in 2018 as well as

0:36:02.079,0:36:07.280 avengers endgame in 2019

0:36:04.800,0:36:09.760 but what if marks the first time bozeman

0:36:07.280,0:36:10.800 voiced the character in an animated

0:36:09.760,0:36:12.960 project

0:36:10.800,0:36:15.440 sadly it also marks the last time that

0:36:12.960,0:36:18.160 the actor got to bring t'challa to life

0:36:15.440,0:36:21.359 before his tragic passing last year

0:36:18.160,0:36:23.119 he was so gracious executive producer uh

0:36:21.359,0:36:26.480 brad wendermar

0:36:23.119,0:36:28.960 tells d23 we were so fortunate to have

0:36:26.480,0:36:31.520 him record the series he reprised the

0:36:28.960,0:36:34.000 role of t'challa in at least four of the

0:36:31.520,0:36:36.160 different states uh i'm sorry in at

0:36:34.000,0:36:38.320 least four episodes in different

0:36:36.160,0:36:40.640 versions of the character reimagined

0:36:38.320,0:36:41.839 because of the different states of the

0:36:40.640,0:36:44.320 universe

0:36:41.839,0:36:46.400 he had we had no idea at the time when

0:36:44.320,0:36:48.400 he was recording with us that this would

0:36:46.400,0:36:50.800 be his final performance as the

0:36:48.400,0:36:53.760 character it was such an honor to have

0:36:50.800,0:36:56.400 had him record to have his presence in

0:36:53.760,0:36:59.040 the show his performance has the same

0:36:56.400,0:37:02.400 depth and the same impact that it does

0:36:59.040,0:37:06.160 in live action he uh alleviates the

0:37:02.400,0:37:07.200 material in an incredible way we were so

0:37:06.160,0:37:09.920 humbled

0:37:07.200,0:37:12.480 in the episode of what if t'tala the

0:37:09.920,0:37:16.800 young prince of wakanda is accidentally

0:37:12.480,0:37:18.960 abducted by yondu and becomes a ravager

0:37:16.800,0:37:21.520 known as star-lord throughout the galaxy

0:37:18.960,0:37:23.599 his reputation precedes him which comes

0:37:21.520,0:37:26.880 in handy when he crosses paths with the

0:37:23.599,0:37:28.880 likes of thanos uh nebula

0:37:26.880,0:37:31.040 and uh

0:37:28.880,0:37:33.680 correct korath the punisher just to name

0:37:31.040,0:37:36.240 a few pursuer pursuer sorry

0:37:33.680,0:37:38.640 t'challa is interesting because he's not

0:37:36.240,0:37:41.680 a character who arcs himself the head

0:37:38.640,0:37:43.760 writer and executive producer ac bradley

0:37:41.680,0:37:45.599 said during a recent virtual press

0:37:43.760,0:37:47.599 conference for whatev

0:37:45.599,0:37:50.240 he said he's a character who changes the

0:37:47.599,0:37:53.359 world around him he doesn't go through a

0:37:50.240,0:37:55.760 transformation he transforms the world

0:37:53.359,0:37:58.640 so how would t'challa transform outer

0:37:55.760,0:38:01.200 space well director and producer

0:37:58.640,0:38:03.200 executive producer brian andrews had

0:38:01.200,0:38:06.320 said he was eager to work with bozeman

0:38:03.200,0:38:09.359 on what would ultimately be the actor's

0:38:06.320,0:38:11.760 final performance of as t'challa he said

0:38:09.359,0:38:13.520 he was amazing we only got a moment

0:38:11.760,0:38:15.599 because our episodes are so short

0:38:13.520,0:38:17.920 compared to everyone who was able to

0:38:15.599,0:38:20.560 enjoy his presence on black panther or

0:38:17.920,0:38:22.960 even civil war we had him for a moment

0:38:20.560,0:38:25.200 to do our thing and we're so grateful

0:38:22.960,0:38:27.440 for it he was actually one of the first

0:38:25.200,0:38:29.440 actors to sign on and say oh yeah i'm

0:38:27.440,0:38:31.599 going to do that voice

0:38:29.440,0:38:33.839 we were so excited because we really

0:38:31.599,0:38:36.560 really wanted to work with chadwick and

0:38:33.839,0:38:38.960 we loved black panther jeffrey wright

0:38:36.560,0:38:41.280 who voices the watcher said that he had

0:38:38.960,0:38:43.280 met bozeman several years ago at comic

0:38:41.280,0:38:44.160 con and had hoped to work with him ever

0:38:43.280,0:38:46.320 since

0:38:44.160,0:38:48.880 he said it was a lovely surprise to find

0:38:46.320,0:38:51.119 out that we would have the opportunity

0:38:48.880,0:38:52.880 at least to be in the same space with

0:38:51.119,0:38:55.200 what if um

0:38:52.880,0:38:57.040 this being his last performance i find

0:38:55.200,0:38:59.440 it very moving

0:38:57.040,0:39:01.040 i think this was probably

0:38:59.440,0:39:03.760 a great tribute

0:39:01.040,0:39:06.160 to the actor himself and the episode

0:39:03.760,0:39:08.560 itself is because the episode kind of

0:39:06.160,0:39:10.800 really embodies

0:39:08.560,0:39:13.200 the spirit of the character that he

0:39:10.800,0:39:15.440 brought to life definitely and you look

0:39:13.200,0:39:17.440 back on it and there are some characters

0:39:15.440,0:39:19.440 that you can't see a different actor

0:39:17.440,0:39:22.160 playing like you couldn't see anybody

0:39:19.440,0:39:25.280 but robert downey jr playing iron man

0:39:22.160,0:39:27.280 right i can't see anybody playing

0:39:25.280,0:39:29.359 t'challa other than chadwick boseman at

0:39:27.280,0:39:31.440 this point he just owned the character

0:39:29.359,0:39:33.440 and and that was one of the things too

0:39:31.440,0:39:36.560 after he passed away

0:39:33.440,0:39:38.720 fans were like please don't replace him

0:39:36.560,0:39:41.200 there needs to be a new

0:39:38.720,0:39:43.440 black panther in the storyline but you

0:39:41.200,0:39:46.800 can't have somebody else come in and

0:39:43.440,0:39:49.599 fill his role and and he embodied the

0:39:46.800,0:39:52.000 character in real life with

0:39:49.599,0:39:54.160 the way that he

0:39:52.000,0:39:55.760 portrayed himself the way that his

0:39:54.160,0:39:58.720 charitable nature

0:39:55.760,0:40:02.400 you know the fact that he was so helpful

0:39:58.720,0:40:05.040 to up-and-coming actors so grateful to

0:40:02.400,0:40:07.040 the people that gave him his start he

0:40:05.040,0:40:08.800 really embodied everything that that

0:40:07.040,0:40:10.720 character was

0:40:08.800,0:40:13.359 and you you look at the character and

0:40:10.720,0:40:15.839 and they're one and the same almost yeah

0:40:13.359,0:40:18.560 uh so it was very nice to see the the

0:40:15.839,0:40:20.880 touching tribute that they did

0:40:18.560,0:40:23.040 uh that was all we had for our

0:40:20.880,0:40:25.440 entertainment news this week yep we'll

0:40:23.040,0:40:27.890 be right back with our insightful picks

0:40:25.440,0:40:30.840 of the week

0:40:27.890,0:40:32.000 [Applause]

0:40:30.840,0:40:34.400 [Music]

0:40:32.000,0:40:38.680 go for your insightful pick so my

0:40:34.400,0:40:38.680 insightful p p p

0:40:39.920,0:40:49.280 my insightful pick of the week is a 2015

0:40:44.640,0:40:52.560 gothic romance uh called crimson peak

0:40:49.280,0:40:55.920 it was directed by guillermo del toro

0:40:52.560,0:40:59.440 written by toro and matthew robbins uh

0:40:55.920,0:41:01.200 the film stars i'm probably gonna mess

0:40:59.440,0:41:03.839 up everybody's names so the only one

0:41:01.200,0:41:08.800 i'll tell you is tom hiddleston

0:41:03.839,0:41:11.839 uh and jessica chastain uh jim beaver um

0:41:08.800,0:41:14.480 so the story is set in victorian era

0:41:11.839,0:41:17.440 england and follows an aspiring author

0:41:14.480,0:41:19.280 who travels to a remote gothic mansion

0:41:17.440,0:41:21.200 in the english hills with her new

0:41:19.280,0:41:23.359 husband and his sister

0:41:21.200,0:41:26.079 there she must decipher the mystery

0:41:23.359,0:41:28.000 behind the ghostly visions that haunt

0:41:26.079,0:41:30.160 her new home

0:41:28.000,0:41:33.119 it was funny because people were

0:41:30.160,0:41:36.160 actually talking about this

0:41:33.119,0:41:38.480 because of the set design and how it has

0:41:36.160,0:41:42.560 a very haunted mansion

0:41:38.480,0:41:45.839 look to it um it is that kind of

0:41:42.560,0:41:48.880 boo scare you type of horror movie

0:41:45.839,0:41:50.000 you know a little bit of gore uh

0:41:48.880,0:41:53.040 here too

0:41:50.000,0:41:55.680 but it's a little bit of a mystery as

0:41:53.040,0:41:57.839 well like you kind of know where it's

0:41:55.680,0:42:00.640 going but you're not really

0:41:57.839,0:42:03.280 a hundred percent sure until the end so

0:42:00.640,0:42:04.000 it's kind of that suspenseful

0:42:03.280,0:42:07.440 uh

0:42:04.000,0:42:10.240 scare you type uh horror movie but again

0:42:07.440,0:42:12.800 beautiful sets if if you like that kind

0:42:10.240,0:42:16.480 of gothic

0:42:12.800,0:42:17.760 almost steampunk in a way victorian

0:42:16.480,0:42:19.520 style

0:42:17.760,0:42:22.000 and to see

0:42:19.520,0:42:23.119 you know tom hiddleston is kind of a

0:42:22.000,0:42:25.119 a jerk

0:42:23.119,0:42:27.040 a character like you think he's all

0:42:25.119,0:42:30.400 loving and you know

0:42:27.040,0:42:32.640 surprise he's not but is he you know and

0:42:30.400,0:42:35.839 and you know various ghosts that kind of

0:42:32.640,0:42:38.640 come and are giving hints to to help

0:42:35.839,0:42:41.040 this bride kind of survive the the

0:42:38.640,0:42:42.960 mansion and stuff so if you're into you

0:42:41.040,0:42:46.000 know spooky horror things we're coming

0:42:42.960,0:42:48.400 on the halloween season not a bad movie

0:42:46.000,0:42:50.880 to uh to watch and it's on netflix so

0:42:48.400,0:42:54.800 cool thank you

0:42:50.880,0:42:57.359 [Applause]

0:42:54.800,0:42:59.520 so my pick this week in case you missed

0:42:57.359,0:43:01.599 the foreshadowing from our tales from

0:42:59.520,0:43:02.720 the edge of the galaxy

0:43:01.599,0:43:05.839 is

0:43:02.720,0:43:08.880 disney gallery mandalorian season 2

0:43:05.839,0:43:10.960 finale i had no idea i know it comes as

0:43:08.880,0:43:12.880 a real shocker doesn't it

0:43:10.960,0:43:15.200 in last year's season two finale the

0:43:12.880,0:43:17.520 mandalorian the appearance of a young

0:43:15.200,0:43:19.440 luke skywalker was one of the biggest

0:43:17.520,0:43:22.160 reveals and best kept secrets of the

0:43:19.440,0:43:24.400 acclaimed show thus far

0:43:22.160,0:43:27.280 reaction to the episode was emotionally

0:43:24.400,0:43:30.000 charged for many deeply resonating with

0:43:27.280,0:43:32.400 generations of fans who were elated to

0:43:30.000,0:43:35.200 see the jedi master in his post-star

0:43:32.400,0:43:37.280 wars return of the jedi prime

0:43:35.200,0:43:40.319 the story of the cutting-edge technology

0:43:37.280,0:43:43.280 used to bring back to bring luke back is

0:43:40.319,0:43:44.880 the subject of a special extra episode

0:43:43.280,0:43:48.160 of disney

0:43:44.880,0:43:50.880 uh gallery star wars the mandalorian

0:43:48.160,0:43:53.040 which the show debuted the actual uh

0:43:50.880,0:43:55.520 documentary debuted on august 25th on

0:43:53.040,0:43:58.079 disney plus

0:43:55.520,0:43:59.760 making of the season 2 finale

0:43:58.079,0:44:01.760 is a behind the scenes look at the

0:43:59.760,0:44:03.040 making of the celebrated chapter of the

0:44:01.760,0:44:05.280 mandalorian

0:44:03.040,0:44:07.680 with a focus on the technology used for

0:44:05.280,0:44:10.160 re-creating luke skywalker

0:44:07.680,0:44:12.480 it delves into the collaborative process

0:44:10.160,0:44:14.319 including working with mark hamill to

0:44:12.480,0:44:17.119 create an authentic and fitting

0:44:14.319,0:44:18.800 recreation and explores the immense

0:44:17.119,0:44:21.280 pressure and responsibility the

0:44:18.800,0:44:23.599 filmmakers had in bringing back one of

0:44:21.280,0:44:25.119 the most important characters in film

0:44:23.599,0:44:26.800 history

0:44:25.119,0:44:29.280 disney gallery the mandalorian was an

0:44:26.800,0:44:31.599 insightful pick previously for both its

0:44:29.280,0:44:33.520 season one and season two documentaries

0:44:31.599,0:44:34.400 on the mandalorian so i've gone through

0:44:33.520,0:44:35.920 well

0:44:34.400,0:44:38.079 a few times on this one here because

0:44:35.920,0:44:40.000 it's a really good show yeah

0:44:38.079,0:44:41.839 we've enjoyed all of what the series has

0:44:40.000,0:44:43.680 had to offer so far

0:44:41.839,0:44:46.000 but this episode was a little extra

0:44:43.680,0:44:48.800 special because of the subject

0:44:46.000,0:44:51.520 and watching the final season

0:44:48.800,0:44:54.800 of uh final episode of season two i had

0:44:51.520,0:44:56.640 already read the spoilers as i often do

0:44:54.800,0:44:58.560 i knew what was going to happen who it

0:44:56.640,0:45:00.000 was going to be and how it was going to

0:44:58.560,0:45:01.760 happen

0:45:00.000,0:45:03.680 even going into the episode with that

0:45:01.760,0:45:05.520 for knowledge i still couldn't help but

0:45:03.680,0:45:07.520 get choked up for the last 10 minutes or

0:45:05.520,0:45:09.599 so of the episode

0:45:07.520,0:45:11.040 going into the making of the episode you

0:45:09.599,0:45:12.560 think i've gotten rid of all that

0:45:11.040,0:45:15.280 giddiness right

0:45:12.560,0:45:17.200 but no i was an 11 year old little boy

0:45:15.280,0:45:18.880 once again reliving all the memories and

0:45:17.200,0:45:20.480 emotions of my youth

0:45:18.880,0:45:22.400 pretty much through the entire episode

0:45:20.480,0:45:24.000 of the documentary

0:45:22.400,0:45:26.720 as with the previous episodes the

0:45:24.000,0:45:29.200 documentary uh they managed to capture

0:45:26.720,0:45:31.839 the behind the scenes field just right

0:45:29.200,0:45:33.680 you get the passion and emotion of the

0:45:31.839,0:45:36.000 producers directors actors and the

0:45:33.680,0:45:37.599 effects people which in and of itself is

0:45:36.000,0:45:39.760 infectious

0:45:37.599,0:45:42.240 you get to see the different options for

0:45:39.760,0:45:44.400 de-aging mark hamill as explained in

0:45:42.240,0:45:47.040 plain english by john favreau because

0:45:44.400,0:45:49.119 it's a very technical process

0:45:47.040,0:45:52.000 you're given a peek behind the curtain

0:45:49.119,0:45:53.520 at the challenges of keeping the secret

0:45:52.000,0:45:55.280 and the deceptions which we already

0:45:53.520,0:45:57.440 talked about

0:45:55.280,0:45:59.119 and you also get to see the

0:45:57.440,0:46:02.000 filming of the scenes from different

0:45:59.119,0:46:04.160 angles and then you get to relive relive

0:46:02.000,0:46:05.839 the giddiness all over again with that

0:46:04.160,0:46:07.440 last scene

0:46:05.839,0:46:09.760 now it's also worth noting that the

0:46:07.440,0:46:11.760 television academy recognized the second

0:46:09.760,0:46:14.960 season of the mandalorian

0:46:11.760,0:46:17.760 with 24 emmy award nominations including

0:46:14.960,0:46:19.280 best drama series all of which were well

0:46:17.760,0:46:21.280 deserved

0:46:19.280,0:46:22.640 my pick this week is disney gallery

0:46:21.280,0:46:26.640 mandalorian

0:46:22.640,0:46:28.960 the season 2 finale on disney plus

0:46:26.640,0:46:31.240 and we'll be right back with our

0:46:28.960,0:46:34.180 afterthoughts

0:46:31.240,0:46:36.640 [Applause]

0:46:34.180,0:46:39.040 [Music]

0:46:36.640,0:46:42.720 after thoughts all right so this

0:46:39.040,0:46:45.119 saturday is the free toy show uh which

0:46:42.720,0:46:48.400 is in the sicklerville area at the

0:46:45.119,0:46:50.640 carnival of collectibles again the

0:46:48.400,0:46:53.599 just the carnival of collectibles as a

0:46:50.640,0:46:55.359 very interesting and unique place to go

0:46:53.599,0:46:57.119 and kind of explore

0:46:55.359,0:46:58.960 because you never know what kind of

0:46:57.119,0:47:00.880 stuff you're going to find but they're

0:46:58.960,0:47:03.920 going to have a bunch of tables set up

0:47:00.880,0:47:07.520 for a toy show as well

0:47:03.920,0:47:10.640 then in a couple of weeks

0:47:07.520,0:47:14.000 also from toyshow.org is the delaware

0:47:10.640,0:47:16.640 train show and the oktoberfest toy show

0:47:14.000,0:47:19.599 october 9th and october 10th

0:47:16.640,0:47:20.800 at the nurse shrine center in newcastle

0:47:19.599,0:47:24.359 delaware

0:47:20.800,0:47:26.079 then in two weeks from this weekend is

0:47:24.359,0:47:28.640 retrocon

0:47:26.079,0:47:32.240 uh september 25th and 26th at the

0:47:28.640,0:47:35.119 greater philadelphia expo center in oaks

0:47:32.240,0:47:39.599 also that weekend in hunt valley

0:47:35.119,0:47:43.119 maryland is monster mania 47

0:47:39.599,0:47:45.599 then monster media 48 will be coming to

0:47:43.119,0:47:49.920 the greater philadelphia expo center in

0:47:45.599,0:47:52.400 oaks october 22nd through the 24th

0:47:49.920,0:47:54.960 the first weekend in october is

0:47:52.400,0:47:57.440 brickfest also at the greater

0:47:54.960,0:47:59.839 philadelphia expo center so if you are

0:47:57.440,0:48:03.040 into legos and

0:47:59.839,0:48:06.160 building and all things brick this is

0:48:03.040,0:48:08.319 definitely the event for you see the

0:48:06.160,0:48:09.680 greater expo greater philosophy expert

0:48:08.319,0:48:11.680 center is greater now just because so

0:48:09.680,0:48:13.599 much stuff is there yeah pretty much not

0:48:11.680,0:48:15.359 just because they say it's greater yeah

0:48:13.599,0:48:17.040 pretty much almost every weekend there's

0:48:15.359,0:48:19.200 probably something

0:48:17.040,0:48:21.680 you know going on they sometimes have

0:48:19.200,0:48:23.359 golf expos there's usually a psychic

0:48:21.680,0:48:25.440 fare expo

0:48:23.359,0:48:27.280 uh the psychic fair we should go to that

0:48:25.440,0:48:28.880 we've never gone to that one that sounds

0:48:27.280,0:48:30.400 like it'd be interesting

0:48:28.880,0:48:31.839 would you really go to that yeah that

0:48:30.400,0:48:34.400 would be kind of cool

0:48:31.839,0:48:36.319 okay because i'd go yeah

0:48:34.400,0:48:39.040 i think that'd be neat

0:48:36.319,0:48:40.880 okay i think the one time we went it was

0:48:39.040,0:48:42.960 going on one of the other halls yeah i

0:48:40.880,0:48:45.119 can't remember what was it when we went

0:48:42.960,0:48:46.880 to brickfest i think it was because that

0:48:45.119,0:48:49.680 was when they

0:48:46.880,0:48:52.559 because they have like four different

0:48:49.680,0:48:54.800 entrances so but they all open up in the

0:48:52.559,0:48:56.559 into one into one big one if they wanted

0:48:54.800,0:48:58.800 to so yeah yeah that would be kind of

0:48:56.559,0:49:00.000 interesting we'll have to look

0:48:58.800,0:49:02.079 but anyway

0:49:00.000,0:49:04.960 i think that's it for today before we do

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This week we go off script a bit to deal with some issues. First we talk about a series of deadly tornados that blew through our area and actually our town in the wake of hurricane Ida. We'll talk a bit about how scary that was and the lingering anxiety of the experience. We'll also talk about the disruption the storms caused to everyone's life in the area last week which prevented us from recording our show during our regularly schedule time last week.

Then we'll talk about some of the stress and anxiety of going back to school. We'll address the underlying anxiety and fear for our safety about in person learning during the ongoing pandemic. We'll look at some of the stress issues about having so many advanced courses and so little time to ourselves with Marching Band.

Finally we'll talk about concerns and unresolved issues that are causing some stress and anxiety. We'll look at ways to tackle some of the problems, cope with those we can solve and look at what the near future holds for us and hopefully resolve some of the tensions and anxieties from the last two weeks.

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    • Insights Into Teens: Episode 123 "Back to School Off the Cuff"
    • My beautiful and intelligent co-host Madison Whalen
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[SEGMENT 1]

Last week and why we didn’t podcast

  • Storms hit on Wednesday
  • First marching band performance on Thursday was delayed
  • Football game on Friday

[AD1: SSE]

[SEGMENT 2]

Talking about back to school

  • Bus problems
  • How was your first week
  • What do you think of you classes
  • Any concerns you have with classes so far
  • The concert band issue
  • Having friends in your classes
  • How’s the scheduling so far

[AD2: ENTERTAINMENT]

[SEGMENT 3]

Concerns and issues moving forward

  • Do you feel safe with the precautions at school
    • Any issues with people wearing masks
    • Are they cleaning properly
  • Are you tired?
    • How are you handling getting up so early
    • Have you adjusted to the new sleep schedule
    • How do you think band is going to factor in
  • How are your classes
    • Do you like your teachers
    • Any concerns with the curriculum
    • Any issues with workload
  • How is the switch to chromebooks
    • What’s it like not carrying books
    • Are you comfortable using the chromebook
  • Other concerns/issues

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Transcription 0:00:00.320,0:00:03.250 [Music]

0:00:01.599,0:00:06.240 insightful podcasts

0:00:03.250,0:00:09.839 [Music]

0:00:06.240,0:00:09.839 by informative hosts

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0:00:14.960,0:00:17.760 insights into things

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0:00:17.760,0:00:26.400 a podcast network

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0:00:26.400,0:00:32.000 welcome to insights into teens a podcast

0:00:29.920,0:00:34.880 series exploring the issues and

0:00:32.000,0:00:37.680 challenges of today's youth your hosts

0:00:34.880,0:00:39.920 are joseph and madison whalen a father

0:00:37.680,0:00:42.079 and daughter team making their way

0:00:39.920,0:00:43.180 through the challenges of the teenage

0:00:42.079,0:00:44.330 years

0:00:43.180,0:00:47.369 [Music]

0:00:44.330,0:00:47.369 [Applause]

0:00:51.280,0:00:57.520 welcome to insights into teens this is

0:00:54.960,0:01:00.320 episode 123

0:00:57.520,0:01:02.640 back to school off the cuff i am your

0:01:00.320,0:01:04.879 host joseph whalen

0:01:02.640,0:01:06.479 and my beautiful and intelligent co-host

0:01:04.879,0:01:09.119 madison whalen

0:01:06.479,0:01:12.159 hi everyone how you doing today maddie

0:01:09.119,0:01:15.759 i'm doing all right how about you i'm

0:01:12.159,0:01:17.840 doing okay so this week we're going to

0:01:15.759,0:01:19.119 kind of switch things up a little bit

0:01:17.840,0:01:21.280 right

0:01:19.119,0:01:22.479 so we've been doing

0:01:21.280,0:01:24.560 kind of

0:01:22.479,0:01:26.159 topical stuff some some hard-hitting

0:01:24.560,0:01:27.840 topics

0:01:26.159,0:01:30.640 from week to week here

0:01:27.840,0:01:33.040 we did miss last week we did not do a

0:01:30.640,0:01:35.840 podcast last week why did we not do a

0:01:33.040,0:01:37.680 podcast last week i had my first

0:01:35.840,0:01:41.119 marching band performance at the

0:01:37.680,0:01:43.280 football game right um our entire

0:01:41.119,0:01:45.600 schedule was disrupted last week because

0:01:43.280,0:01:49.520 of the storms that blew through

0:01:45.600,0:01:51.840 yep the remnants of hurricane ida

0:01:49.520,0:01:54.640 and we actually had a tornado blow

0:01:51.840,0:01:57.680 through our town fortunately for us it

0:01:54.640,0:01:59.200 was on the other side of town

0:01:57.680,0:02:01.680 unfortunately for the folks on the other

0:01:59.200,0:02:03.840 side of town it was on their side

0:02:01.680,0:02:06.960 but that wound up

0:02:03.840,0:02:09.360 causing some schedule disruptions

0:02:06.960,0:02:10.959 uh so we'll talk about those

0:02:09.360,0:02:11.760 uh we'll talk about the storm a little

0:02:10.959,0:02:14.959 bit

0:02:11.760,0:02:17.920 um we're going to talk about

0:02:14.959,0:02:19.599 um just general things you know you this

0:02:17.920,0:02:22.239 was your first week back to school first

0:02:19.599,0:02:24.319 week in high school right so we're going

0:02:22.239,0:02:26.080 to talk about uh

0:02:24.319,0:02:28.480 some of the stuff with schools some of

0:02:26.080,0:02:29.840 the issues you ran into

0:02:28.480,0:02:31.120 and then we're going to talk about some

0:02:29.840,0:02:32.959 concerns

0:02:31.120,0:02:35.200 some certainly some concerns that i have

0:02:32.959,0:02:36.879 maybe some concerns that you have

0:02:35.200,0:02:38.720 and just kind of talk through some of

0:02:36.879,0:02:40.959 the stuff because it's been kind of the

0:02:38.720,0:02:42.959 last two weeks have been kind of a

0:02:40.959,0:02:46.160 emotional rollercoaster i guess you

0:02:42.959,0:02:49.200 could say yeah so things have been crazy

0:02:46.160,0:02:51.440 hectic emotions have been running high

0:02:49.200,0:02:52.959 expectations are running high so i think

0:02:51.440,0:02:55.200 it's tying you know it's a good

0:02:52.959,0:02:57.200 opportunity for us to

0:02:55.200,0:02:59.599 kind of tone it down a little bit you

0:02:57.200,0:03:02.560 know usually our podcaster directed it

0:02:59.599,0:03:04.159 at our audience to try and help them out

0:03:02.560,0:03:06.080 but i think we kind of need a little

0:03:04.159,0:03:09.200 decompression

0:03:06.080,0:03:10.879 uh podcast for ourselves this week so

0:03:09.200,0:03:12.319 this this week's podcast is for

0:03:10.879,0:03:14.239 ourselves

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0:04:23.680,0:04:27.520 so first up

0:04:25.360,0:04:28.880 one let's talk about the storm for for a

0:04:27.520,0:04:30.639 little bit because i'll be honest with

0:04:28.880,0:04:32.160 you i'm

0:04:30.639,0:04:34.720 personally i'm still a little freaked

0:04:32.160,0:04:37.840 out about the storm itself

0:04:34.720,0:04:38.800 so we had remnants of hurricane ida blow

0:04:37.840,0:04:40.400 through

0:04:38.800,0:04:43.919 tons and tons of rain we had flooding

0:04:40.400,0:04:46.720 all over the place but what probably had

0:04:43.919,0:04:47.919 the most direct effect on us

0:04:46.720,0:04:51.040 were

0:04:47.919,0:04:53.680 a string of tornadoes that came through

0:04:51.040,0:04:55.520 one of which came right through our town

0:04:53.680,0:04:56.800 and we happened to be huddled down in

0:04:55.520,0:04:58.560 the basement at the time like we're

0:04:56.800,0:05:00.240 supposed to be

0:04:58.560,0:05:02.560 and um

0:05:00.240,0:05:03.680 we have security cameras outside of our

0:05:02.560,0:05:05.199 house

0:05:03.680,0:05:08.639 we have security cameras inside of our

0:05:05.199,0:05:11.360 house too but that's a different story

0:05:08.639,0:05:13.280 um we had cameras outside our house and

0:05:11.360,0:05:15.039 when the tornado was actually blowing

0:05:13.280,0:05:17.919 through town

0:05:15.039,0:05:19.199 i could actually see the cloud mass of

0:05:17.919,0:05:20.800 the turning i couldn't see the funnel

0:05:19.199,0:05:23.520 cloud but i could see the cloud mass of

0:05:20.800,0:05:26.080 the tordeno in the distance

0:05:23.520,0:05:27.759 while you guys were downstairs with me

0:05:26.080,0:05:28.560 wow um

0:05:27.759,0:05:30.960 which

0:05:28.560,0:05:33.680 was very scary for me what are your

0:05:30.960,0:05:35.520 impressions of having to

0:05:33.680,0:05:37.280 sit down there and listen because we had

0:05:35.520,0:05:38.400 the news on the weather was going we

0:05:37.280,0:05:40.080 were getting all the alerts on our

0:05:38.400,0:05:42.479 phones and everything

0:05:40.080,0:05:44.479 give me your impressions of of what you

0:05:42.479,0:05:47.280 thought well first of all

0:05:44.479,0:05:49.919 i'm not one for storms i normally can't

0:05:47.280,0:05:51.360 even handle lightning storms because i

0:05:49.919,0:05:53.280 genuinely just get freaked out by

0:05:51.360,0:05:56.160 lightning and thunder

0:05:53.280,0:05:58.400 i don't like those kinds of storms

0:05:56.160,0:06:00.720 and we had a lot of it uh during this

0:05:58.400,0:06:02.319 storm and whenever we go into the

0:06:00.720,0:06:05.120 basement

0:06:02.319,0:06:06.639 i know it's a pretty strong storm

0:06:05.120,0:06:09.199 um

0:06:06.639,0:06:10.880 uh having to listen to the news where we

0:06:09.199,0:06:12.960 were kind of all huddled

0:06:10.880,0:06:14.720 in a way i kind of wanted to somewhat

0:06:12.960,0:06:17.280 block it out even though i knew it was

0:06:14.720,0:06:20.160 going on i kind of just wanted to keep

0:06:17.280,0:06:21.680 myself calm for the most part and to say

0:06:20.160,0:06:22.960 that everything was kind of going to be

0:06:21.680,0:06:24.880 okay

0:06:22.960,0:06:26.560 okay you know

0:06:24.880,0:06:28.800 and

0:06:26.560,0:06:31.360 were you successful

0:06:28.800,0:06:33.280 i feel i was i definitely don't think i

0:06:31.360,0:06:34.560 definitely think it helped to keep me

0:06:33.280,0:06:36.960 calm

0:06:34.560,0:06:39.840 throughout the storm

0:06:36.960,0:06:43.039 i felt a bit better

0:06:39.840,0:06:44.400 keeping after that

0:06:43.039,0:06:46.240 and at least

0:06:44.400,0:06:48.240 although i knew what was going on i at

0:06:46.240,0:06:49.840 least tried to center my focus around

0:06:48.240,0:06:52.720 something different kind of like how i

0:06:49.840,0:06:53.759 normally do when things kind of scare me

0:06:52.720,0:06:55.759 so

0:06:53.759,0:06:59.120 well and we've been dealing with the

0:06:55.759,0:07:01.039 aftermath of that storm for instance

0:06:59.120,0:07:04.240 someone that i work with

0:07:01.039,0:07:07.120 uh in another nearby town their town was

0:07:04.240,0:07:09.120 hit very hard i mean entire houses

0:07:07.120,0:07:11.680 destroyed

0:07:09.120,0:07:13.840 and they had some damage to their houses

0:07:11.680,0:07:16.080 well fortunately they weren't hurt

0:07:13.840,0:07:17.680 most of the people in their neighborhood

0:07:16.080,0:07:19.039 that were affected by it weren't even in

0:07:17.680,0:07:22.479 their homes at the time because they

0:07:19.039,0:07:24.479 were away which was fortunate

0:07:22.479,0:07:26.479 but to see the kind of power like i'm

0:07:24.479,0:07:27.759 not big on storms either you know

0:07:26.479,0:07:28.639 there's

0:07:27.759,0:07:31.199 i'm

0:07:28.639,0:07:32.960 i'm the type of person

0:07:31.199,0:07:34.400 i wouldn't say i'm a control freak but i

0:07:32.960,0:07:37.039 like

0:07:34.400,0:07:37.919 i like having control over aspects of my

0:07:37.039,0:07:39.759 life

0:07:37.919,0:07:42.080 and things that are completely random

0:07:39.759,0:07:43.199 and outside of my control tend to scare

0:07:42.080,0:07:45.919 me

0:07:43.199,0:07:48.400 lightning for instance like i can take

0:07:45.919,0:07:49.919 all the precautions in the world

0:07:48.400,0:07:51.520 but if a lightning bolt's going to hit

0:07:49.919,0:07:55.120 me there's nothing that i can do about

0:07:51.520,0:07:57.120 it and that that randomness scares me

0:07:55.120,0:07:59.039 tornadoes are the same thing especially

0:07:57.120,0:08:00.400 as powerful because these were we

0:07:59.039,0:08:02.000 usually don't get storms that are this

0:08:00.400,0:08:04.879 powerful yeah

0:08:02.000,0:08:06.560 and in in looking at some of the

0:08:04.879,0:08:08.240 news coverage of it after the fact that

0:08:06.560,0:08:09.759 i i had seen some really alarming

0:08:08.240,0:08:10.639 statistics

0:08:09.759,0:08:14.879 one

0:08:10.639,0:08:17.120 analysis had actually talked about

0:08:14.879,0:08:19.280 the town that was near us called mullica

0:08:17.120,0:08:21.440 hill that had gotten him the really

0:08:19.280,0:08:24.160 powerful tornado

0:08:21.440,0:08:26.960 they said the debris from the houses in

0:08:24.160,0:08:29.039 that town were thrown as far as 20 000

0:08:26.960,0:08:31.759 feet into the air

0:08:29.039,0:08:35.360 and landed in bucks county pennsylvania

0:08:31.759,0:08:37.919 which is about a 40-minute drive from us

0:08:35.360,0:08:40.560 wow that's how powerful the storm was

0:08:37.919,0:08:42.800 that blew through so it's really scary

0:08:40.560,0:08:45.680 thinking that something like that

0:08:42.800,0:08:47.040 came so close to us yeah

0:08:45.680,0:08:48.880 um

0:08:47.040,0:08:50.560 but fortunately like i said you know we

0:08:48.880,0:08:53.120 came out of that so

0:08:50.560,0:08:56.399 with without any any issues or anything

0:08:53.120,0:08:59.200 but it did affect stuff in town so your

0:08:56.399,0:09:01.519 first performance for marching band was

0:08:59.200,0:09:03.760 supposed to be thursday tell us what

0:09:01.519,0:09:07.200 happened with that it ended up getting

0:09:03.760,0:09:09.360 pushed back due to the weather to friday

0:09:07.200,0:09:11.839 um guessing they still had to work

0:09:09.360,0:09:13.120 things out because the storm hit us on a

0:09:11.839,0:09:14.480 when well

0:09:13.120,0:09:16.480 technically

0:09:14.480,0:09:18.480 yeah it was wednesday

0:09:16.480,0:09:20.720 um and i was technically supposed to

0:09:18.480,0:09:22.640 have another practice then but

0:09:20.720,0:09:24.800 um we ended up ducking out because we

0:09:22.640,0:09:26.320 knew the storm was coming and i guess

0:09:24.800,0:09:28.959 enough people ducked out to the point

0:09:26.320,0:09:32.320 where they completely canceled it

0:09:28.959,0:09:33.519 um and then on thursday um

0:09:32.320,0:09:35.360 around

0:09:33.519,0:09:37.920 one ish maybe

0:09:35.360,0:09:39.440 uh mommy got the notification saying

0:09:37.920,0:09:40.959 that uh

0:09:39.440,0:09:42.640 uh the uh

0:09:40.959,0:09:45.279 our first performance was moved to

0:09:42.640,0:09:46.800 friday because of the storm right

0:09:45.279,0:09:48.720 so

0:09:46.800,0:09:50.720 wednesday i had been watching the news

0:09:48.720,0:09:52.080 the weather forecast most of the

0:09:50.720,0:09:53.760 afternoon

0:09:52.080,0:09:55.680 and i had texted mommy and said look i

0:09:53.760,0:09:57.360 don't want to send you to

0:09:55.680,0:09:58.480 marching band practice

0:09:57.360,0:10:00.480 because

0:09:58.480,0:10:01.839 the worst of the storm was going to hit

0:10:00.480,0:10:03.279 literally when you were showing up for

0:10:01.839,0:10:04.800 marching band and i didn't want to

0:10:03.279,0:10:05.600 chance it i'd rather have you home with

0:10:04.800,0:10:07.200 us

0:10:05.600,0:10:09.680 so that's why you didn't go and then we

0:10:07.200,0:10:12.000 got a notification after mommy notified

0:10:09.680,0:10:13.839 your your director

0:10:12.000,0:10:15.519 that we weren't sending you

0:10:13.839,0:10:17.040 shortly after that he sent out a

0:10:15.519,0:10:19.040 notification saying it was cancelled so

0:10:17.040,0:10:21.600 i have to assume a lot of other parents

0:10:19.040,0:10:23.920 had pulled their kids out too yeah

0:10:21.600,0:10:25.440 so they moved the football game and this

0:10:23.920,0:10:27.200 was the the

0:10:25.440,0:10:29.440 i guess opening game the first game of

0:10:27.200,0:10:31.200 the of the season for the high school

0:10:29.440,0:10:33.760 to friday

0:10:31.200,0:10:36.079 and uh you had to be there for the

0:10:33.760,0:10:37.680 early to get set up and and prep for the

0:10:36.079,0:10:40.560 game and everything

0:10:37.680,0:10:42.320 mommy and daddy went to the game which i

0:10:40.560,0:10:43.519 was you know joking around saying that's

0:10:42.320,0:10:45.440 the first

0:10:43.519,0:10:47.120 high school football game that i've been

0:10:45.440,0:10:48.720 to since i was playing high school

0:10:47.120,0:10:50.640 football yeah

0:10:48.720,0:10:53.680 and it was interesting tell us what your

0:10:50.640,0:10:56.720 impression was of the performance tell

0:10:53.680,0:10:59.440 us what you did and how you liked it

0:10:56.720,0:11:01.279 so um basically

0:10:59.440,0:11:03.360 uh we were going to be playing in the

0:11:01.279,0:11:05.279 halftime show and we were only going to

0:11:03.360,0:11:06.399 be performing performing the first

0:11:05.279,0:11:08.560 movement

0:11:06.399,0:11:09.839 that was the three right yeah first of

0:11:08.560,0:11:11.839 three

0:11:09.839,0:11:13.600 uh and

0:11:11.839,0:11:16.800 um

0:11:13.600,0:11:20.240 while we were in the stands for the

0:11:16.800,0:11:22.560 first second and fourth quarter we

0:11:20.240,0:11:25.680 actually played stan tunes

0:11:22.560,0:11:27.920 which were basically just like

0:11:25.680,0:11:30.399 tunes we kind of had that we were just

0:11:27.920,0:11:33.360 gonna be playing whenever

0:11:30.399,0:11:36.240 someone scored or whenever the team like

0:11:33.360,0:11:37.360 went out and stuff like rally songs wipe

0:11:36.240,0:11:39.040 out and

0:11:37.360,0:11:40.959 you know crowd things to get the crowd

0:11:39.040,0:11:43.360 into the game yeah

0:11:40.959,0:11:46.000 okay so did you like that

0:11:43.360,0:11:48.880 yeah um i didn't originally know all of

0:11:46.000,0:11:50.880 the songs um but it was a

0:11:48.880,0:11:52.800 nice way to keep me still kind of

0:11:50.880,0:11:55.600 invested

0:11:52.800,0:11:57.440 um and i did eventually learn start

0:11:55.600,0:11:58.880 learning a lot of them and it was

0:11:57.440,0:12:00.480 actually kind of fun

0:11:58.880,0:12:02.000 now the other thing you guys did was you

0:12:00.480,0:12:03.519 played the national anthem at the

0:12:02.000,0:12:05.200 beginning of the game too which was

0:12:03.519,0:12:07.360 really well done i have to say i was

0:12:05.200,0:12:08.800 really impressed with it yeah how did

0:12:07.360,0:12:11.120 that make you feel getting to play the

0:12:08.800,0:12:13.279 national anthem it was the first time

0:12:11.120,0:12:15.440 i've ever actually played it i've heard

0:12:13.279,0:12:16.720 it multiple times um

0:12:15.440,0:12:19.200 and that was kind of the first time i

0:12:16.720,0:12:20.880 really played it which was kind of nice

0:12:19.200,0:12:22.800 now that was the whole band there or did

0:12:20.880,0:12:24.800 you have some missing members

0:12:22.800,0:12:27.519 i'm not sure but there were a decent

0:12:24.800,0:12:30.639 amount of people so we still did stand

0:12:27.519,0:12:32.639 tunes and uh the halftime performance

0:12:30.639,0:12:34.560 so let's talk about the halftime

0:12:32.639,0:12:37.680 performance

0:12:34.560,0:12:39.760 you guys weren't in full uniform

0:12:37.680,0:12:41.920 how were you guys dressed and

0:12:39.760,0:12:44.959 how did the whole performance go they'd

0:12:41.920,0:12:46.800 given us uh marching band polos and told

0:12:44.959,0:12:48.639 us to wear black pants and black shoes

0:12:46.800,0:12:50.000 if we had them

0:12:48.639,0:12:51.920 um

0:12:50.000,0:12:53.680 so that was kind of the uniform we had

0:12:51.920,0:12:57.360 we also had a shirts tucked in to make

0:12:53.680,0:12:58.880 us look slightly more um in form which

0:12:57.360,0:13:01.760 i gotta say i actually kind of like the

0:12:58.880,0:13:03.360 polo yeah you looked really good in it

0:13:01.760,0:13:06.560 so everyone looked really good it's a

0:13:03.360,0:13:09.760 nice looking uh shirt yeah

0:13:06.560,0:13:11.920 um so preparing for uh the halftime show

0:13:09.760,0:13:13.600 we actually went back behind the stands

0:13:11.920,0:13:16.399 and did uh

0:13:13.600,0:13:18.399 some warm-up uh songs and then we kind

0:13:16.399,0:13:21.360 of got in line with

0:13:18.399,0:13:23.600 partners for an ark because we had

0:13:21.360,0:13:26.000 spaced it out before

0:13:23.600,0:13:28.560 uh we were tuned

0:13:26.000,0:13:29.680 then by the time they said they told us

0:13:28.560,0:13:32.639 to come out

0:13:29.680,0:13:34.880 we went into the ark in a unified form

0:13:32.639,0:13:37.600 um played

0:13:34.880,0:13:38.639 one of the lip slurs and then went into

0:13:37.600,0:13:39.680 um

0:13:38.639,0:13:40.959 getting ready for the halftime

0:13:39.680,0:13:43.279 performance

0:13:40.959,0:13:45.279 now mommy and i both had an opportunity

0:13:43.279,0:13:47.680 to watch from the stands

0:13:45.279,0:13:49.440 uh the halftime performance and it looks

0:13:47.680,0:13:52.240 like you guys get about 12 minutes to

0:13:49.440,0:13:54.399 perform at half time

0:13:52.240,0:13:56.079 and

0:13:54.399,0:13:57.760 didn't take obviously since you were

0:13:56.079,0:13:59.199 only performing one of the one of the

0:13:57.760,0:14:00.880 three movements you didn't take up the

0:13:59.199,0:14:02.720 whole time

0:14:00.880,0:14:04.160 and the it was what was amazing really

0:14:02.720,0:14:05.600 was watching the picture get all that

0:14:04.160,0:14:07.360 equipment out there and get set up in

0:14:05.600,0:14:09.920 such a short time it literally looked

0:14:07.360,0:14:13.120 like a pick for what a nascar race

0:14:09.920,0:14:15.440 uh so total props to the the pickfru for

0:14:13.120,0:14:17.519 the dedication they had there yeah and i

0:14:15.440,0:14:20.240 remember how long it would take for them

0:14:17.519,0:14:21.839 to set up normally whenever we when we

0:14:20.240,0:14:23.680 had actually

0:14:21.839,0:14:27.040 uh performed it

0:14:23.680,0:14:28.160 uh together with pitt um on tuesday so

0:14:27.040,0:14:29.680 how do you how did you like the

0:14:28.160,0:14:31.680 performance do you think you guys did

0:14:29.680,0:14:33.040 well do you think you need

0:14:31.680,0:14:34.959 improvement do you think you're ready

0:14:33.040,0:14:36.639 for show time at this point

0:14:34.959,0:14:39.120 i mean it was only the first movement

0:14:36.639,0:14:40.959 and i definitely say i think we could

0:14:39.120,0:14:42.399 have done better but overall for our

0:14:40.959,0:14:43.680 first performance i don't think it was

0:14:42.399,0:14:45.360 all that bad

0:14:43.680,0:14:46.800 was there anything in particular that

0:14:45.360,0:14:48.560 you found

0:14:46.800,0:14:49.920 challenging or difficult like did you

0:14:48.560,0:14:51.360 have

0:14:49.920,0:14:53.040 this is the first time you performed in

0:14:51.360,0:14:54.800 front of an audience right

0:14:53.040,0:14:56.560 how was that i mean that's usually the

0:14:54.800,0:14:57.680 biggest challenge in that first

0:14:56.560,0:15:01.120 performance

0:14:57.680,0:15:02.959 yeah um i tried at my best not to really

0:15:01.120,0:15:05.440 think about it too much and kind of just

0:15:02.959,0:15:07.600 go through the sets in my head

0:15:05.440,0:15:09.600 which definitely did help um i

0:15:07.600,0:15:12.880 definitely had to try like staying in

0:15:09.600,0:15:14.720 form for the entire time um it'll be

0:15:12.880,0:15:16.480 interesting to see how we put the entire

0:15:14.720,0:15:18.079 show together because

0:15:16.480,0:15:20.000 you know you kind of need the endurance

0:15:18.079,0:15:22.480 to do it the entire time

0:15:20.000,0:15:25.680 yeah yeah the closest thing i think i've

0:15:22.480,0:15:27.040 ever had was performing in concert choir

0:15:25.680,0:15:28.560 in high school

0:15:27.040,0:15:31.279 and the advantage that i had was that

0:15:28.560,0:15:33.040 was always indoors in the auditorium so

0:15:31.279,0:15:34.560 when you're up on stage they've got all

0:15:33.040,0:15:36.240 the stage lights on you so you can't

0:15:34.560,0:15:37.759 even see the audience you're so blinded

0:15:36.240,0:15:39.440 by the light

0:15:37.759,0:15:41.440 so you know they're out there but you

0:15:39.440,0:15:43.279 don't see them so you don't get as

0:15:41.440,0:15:45.120 nervous i think

0:15:43.279,0:15:46.240 but you guys don't have that advantage i

0:15:45.120,0:15:48.000 mean you guys are out there in the

0:15:46.240,0:15:49.600 middle of the field you've got an

0:15:48.000,0:15:52.240 audience behind you you've got an

0:15:49.600,0:15:54.800 audience in front of you

0:15:52.240,0:15:55.759 did the did the band director give you

0:15:54.800,0:15:58.399 any

0:15:55.759,0:16:00.160 suggestions or ways to handle the

0:15:58.399,0:16:02.560 nervousness or anything like that did he

0:16:00.160,0:16:04.800 anticipate that i think he just told us

0:16:02.560,0:16:06.880 he never really like specifically said

0:16:04.800,0:16:08.320 it's he's just like make sure you

0:16:06.880,0:16:10.480 perform this that's right and that's

0:16:08.320,0:16:12.160 kind of it so just just sort of stick to

0:16:10.480,0:16:14.959 the planning you should be fine and to

0:16:12.160,0:16:17.360 be honest like the

0:16:14.959,0:16:19.440 the amount of like

0:16:17.360,0:16:21.040 stuff we need to think about whenever

0:16:19.440,0:16:23.120 we're moving like getting into the right

0:16:21.040,0:16:24.959 sets using the right step size is making

0:16:23.120,0:16:26.800 sure you're playing the music it was

0:16:24.959,0:16:28.639 enough to make us kind of stop thinking

0:16:26.800,0:16:30.480 of it was enough to at least make me

0:16:28.639,0:16:32.480 kind of stop thinking about the audience

0:16:30.480,0:16:34.800 that was there and kind of it was just a

0:16:32.480,0:16:36.720 regular performance that's good i mean

0:16:34.800,0:16:38.079 so it's almost automatic for you at that

0:16:36.720,0:16:40.160 point because your brain's trying to do

0:16:38.079,0:16:41.519 so many things at once yeah

0:16:40.160,0:16:43.680 did you have fun

0:16:41.519,0:16:45.519 yeah i did um

0:16:43.680,0:16:48.320 i was really my legs were kind of

0:16:45.519,0:16:50.959 shaking um in the beginning and it

0:16:48.320,0:16:53.680 honestly went by quicker than i expected

0:16:50.959,0:16:55.839 so did anything unexpected happen or did

0:16:53.680,0:16:59.040 it kind of go sort of like you expected

0:16:55.839,0:17:01.199 it to it went all right um no one

0:16:59.040,0:17:04.079 tripped or got hit which

0:17:01.199,0:17:05.439 uh they actually said was a big feat um

0:17:04.079,0:17:07.600 for the first

0:17:05.439,0:17:09.679 uh performance especially considering

0:17:07.600,0:17:11.360 the fact this was like the

0:17:09.679,0:17:14.880 this is like the earliest they've ever

0:17:11.360,0:17:16.880 performed right right um so that was

0:17:14.880,0:17:18.400 just the first time the entire band was

0:17:16.880,0:17:19.600 together doing everything at once

0:17:18.400,0:17:21.360 because i know color garbage is out

0:17:19.600,0:17:23.120 there with you too right yeah color

0:17:21.360,0:17:25.760 guard had actually been with us a couple

0:17:23.120,0:17:27.919 of times and pitt was only with us for

0:17:25.760,0:17:29.679 uh tuesday i believe

0:17:27.919,0:17:31.120 um

0:17:29.679,0:17:33.280 so

0:17:31.120,0:17:36.080 so we had done it like once we had done

0:17:33.280,0:17:37.600 it like a couple times all together but

0:17:36.080,0:17:40.320 it was nice doing it in front of the

0:17:37.600,0:17:41.679 audience nice nice so it sounds like it

0:17:40.320,0:17:44.640 was overall it was a pretty good

0:17:41.679,0:17:45.919 experience then yeah sweet

0:17:44.640,0:17:47.280 well let's take a little break and we're

0:17:45.919,0:17:49.679 going to come back and then we're going

0:17:47.280,0:17:51.570 to talk about back to school

0:17:49.679,0:17:58.150 all right we'll be right back

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0:19:01.919,0:19:06.720 welcome back to insights into teens

0:19:04.320,0:19:09.520 we're going off the cuff today talking a

0:19:06.720,0:19:11.679 little bit about last couple of weeks in

0:19:09.520,0:19:13.440 kind of taking it easy this week so

0:19:11.679,0:19:15.440 let's talk a little about back to school

0:19:13.440,0:19:17.679 this was your first week back to school

0:19:15.440,0:19:19.200 you started on tuesday

0:19:17.679,0:19:21.120 um

0:19:19.200,0:19:23.280 how did it start out give us give us an

0:19:21.120,0:19:25.679 idea of how it started out

0:19:23.280,0:19:29.520 so we kind of started out a bit more

0:19:25.679,0:19:31.919 chaotic than i wanted so first of all

0:19:29.520,0:19:34.160 um we were going to be emailed our bus

0:19:31.919,0:19:35.840 passes um

0:19:34.160,0:19:37.440 so that you know we knew what time to

0:19:35.840,0:19:39.200 get on the bus and what bus we were

0:19:37.440,0:19:42.080 taking

0:19:39.200,0:19:44.720 but mommy never got the email

0:19:42.080,0:19:47.039 right and we believe it's because

0:19:44.720,0:19:49.039 she didn't fill out one of the forms on

0:19:47.039,0:19:51.280 genesis that she didn't even get a

0:19:49.039,0:19:52.960 notification that she had which was the

0:19:51.280,0:19:54.320 last all right it was a last-minute form

0:19:52.960,0:19:55.679 and she never got notified that she had

0:19:54.320,0:19:57.919 to fill it out

0:19:55.679,0:20:00.000 yeah so it was kind of

0:19:57.919,0:20:01.760 we were kind of worried on monday but

0:20:00.000,0:20:03.760 the good thing was we actually had a

0:20:01.760,0:20:06.799 neighbor who was also in high school so

0:20:03.760,0:20:08.799 we went to them we got the time and we

0:20:06.799,0:20:10.000 figured hey everything was going to be

0:20:08.799,0:20:13.600 okay

0:20:10.000,0:20:14.720 so um i woke up we got prepared we went

0:20:13.600,0:20:15.600 out

0:20:14.720,0:20:18.320 and

0:20:15.600,0:20:20.400 we and um basically whenever i would go

0:20:18.320,0:20:21.840 to the bus at least when i was in middle

0:20:20.400,0:20:22.799 school

0:20:21.840,0:20:24.720 she

0:20:22.799,0:20:26.480 mommy would drive me up and i would just

0:20:24.720,0:20:29.919 stand at the bus stop

0:20:26.480,0:20:32.240 so me and the other kid donovan um

0:20:29.919,0:20:34.000 were kind of just sitting

0:20:32.240,0:20:36.240 kind of just standing out there waiting

0:20:34.000,0:20:37.360 for our bus to come by

0:20:36.240,0:20:40.159 um

0:20:37.360,0:20:41.440 and a few minutes go by to the point

0:20:40.159,0:20:42.960 where

0:20:41.440,0:20:45.440 we kind of realize it's getting a bit

0:20:42.960,0:20:47.120 late it's getting close to seven around

0:20:45.440,0:20:49.039 the time that i was supposed that i'm

0:20:47.120,0:20:51.039 supposed to be in school

0:20:49.039,0:20:54.080 um and donovan ends up actually going to

0:20:51.039,0:20:56.799 my mom saying that apparently um he had

0:20:54.080,0:20:59.200 a friend who was also on the same bus

0:20:56.799,0:21:01.360 um and he texted like

0:20:59.200,0:21:03.520 what's going on and he's and his friend

0:21:01.360,0:21:04.880 said that he was already at school oh

0:21:03.520,0:21:06.080 boy

0:21:04.880,0:21:08.159 so

0:21:06.080,0:21:10.559 we missed the bus kind of

0:21:08.159,0:21:12.880 okay so mommy but there was a bus at

0:21:10.559,0:21:15.760 some point yeah okay

0:21:12.880,0:21:18.400 so basically uh the good thing was mommy

0:21:15.760,0:21:19.919 was off that day so she was able to just

0:21:18.400,0:21:23.840 drop me off

0:21:19.919,0:21:25.600 um and apparently we weren't the only uh

0:21:23.840,0:21:26.640 we weren't the only ones who experienced

0:21:25.600,0:21:30.480 that

0:21:26.640,0:21:32.320 in fact traffic was jammed with people

0:21:30.480,0:21:34.720 dropping their kids off

0:21:32.320,0:21:35.919 so but your buff ride home was okay

0:21:34.720,0:21:38.559 right you didn't have any problems with

0:21:35.919,0:21:41.120 that well

0:21:38.559,0:21:43.120 i was able to get home but i did kind of

0:21:41.120,0:21:45.200 have some issues

0:21:43.120,0:21:48.159 so during phys ed which was my last

0:21:45.200,0:21:50.480 period i decided that i needed to go and

0:21:48.159,0:21:52.080 find out which bus i was gonna take home

0:21:50.480,0:21:54.559 and i wasn't the only kid there were

0:21:52.080,0:21:55.600 three other kids who also were having

0:21:54.559,0:21:56.840 issues

0:21:55.600,0:21:59.679 so

0:21:56.840,0:22:02.880 um uh all three of us went over to the

0:21:59.679,0:22:05.360 guidance office and um we're hoping to

0:22:02.880,0:22:08.000 get our bus pass

0:22:05.360,0:22:10.080 but apparently we had to come earlier to

0:22:08.000,0:22:12.640 get our bus passes

0:22:10.080,0:22:14.880 and like they couldn't give it to us at

0:22:12.640,0:22:17.440 the end of the day and when after the

0:22:14.880,0:22:19.760 bell rang they said go to the bus

0:22:17.440,0:22:22.720 drivers and ask if they're if they stop

0:22:19.760,0:22:24.880 on your stop so you had to go survey the

0:22:22.720,0:22:28.799 bus drivers to see if they stop at your

0:22:24.880,0:22:31.440 bus stop yeah um but the good thing

0:22:28.799,0:22:34.559 what a disorganized mess

0:22:31.440,0:22:37.440 uh but the good thing was um i

0:22:34.559,0:22:40.400 mommy had heard from donovan uh that

0:22:37.440,0:22:43.120 d10 was the bus he was supposed to take

0:22:40.400,0:22:45.039 so when i'd found d10 i asked if they

0:22:43.120,0:22:47.520 had stopped on my bus i didn't ask any

0:22:45.039,0:22:50.559 of the other ones they said yes and i

0:22:47.520,0:22:52.880 was able to get on and get home wow

0:22:50.559,0:22:55.039 so that was day one well at least with

0:22:52.880,0:22:57.840 the buses so that was day one with the

0:22:55.039,0:23:01.600 buses has have the buses been okay since

0:22:57.840,0:23:03.600 then yeah um i learned that i learned

0:23:01.600,0:23:06.320 yesterday

0:23:03.600,0:23:10.159 that so donovan uh was supposed to get

0:23:06.320,0:23:11.840 picked up around 6 35 um it sat on this

0:23:10.159,0:23:15.039 bus pass

0:23:11.840,0:23:16.960 apparently they pick us up at 6 25.

0:23:15.039,0:23:18.559 that's a significant difference

0:23:16.960,0:23:21.120 yeah

0:23:18.559,0:23:23.520 that's 10 minutes different like did you

0:23:21.120,0:23:25.760 expect them to get like they're like 10

0:23:23.520,0:23:27.440 minutes earlier than the actual time

0:23:25.760,0:23:29.760 apparently they do

0:23:27.440,0:23:32.000 yeah okay

0:23:29.760,0:23:35.120 so steady bus schedule now at least

0:23:32.000,0:23:38.000 right yeah um i'm able to take the bus

0:23:35.120,0:23:40.480 i was able to get take the pus to school

0:23:38.000,0:23:41.919 for yesterday and today and i've been

0:23:40.480,0:23:44.880 able to take it home

0:23:41.919,0:23:46.080 each day okay so hopefully that problem

0:23:44.880,0:23:48.320 is solved

0:23:46.080,0:23:50.320 so what was your overall impression so

0:23:48.320,0:23:51.919 far this week so you've got three days

0:23:50.320,0:23:53.840 under your belt now

0:23:51.919,0:23:55.760 how has been how's it been

0:23:53.840,0:23:56.880 um

0:23:55.760,0:23:59.200 i think i'm

0:23:56.880,0:24:02.720 um it's been

0:23:59.200,0:24:05.520 all right i'm not

0:24:02.720,0:24:07.919 i

0:24:05.520,0:24:10.720 it's kind of complicated of course it is

0:24:07.919,0:24:12.799 it's high school i mean yeah

0:24:10.720,0:24:14.320 um

0:24:12.799,0:24:15.919 we'll get to the issues in the next

0:24:14.320,0:24:18.880 segment but what's your initial

0:24:15.919,0:24:21.760 impression is it manageable is it

0:24:18.880,0:24:23.520 overwhelming is it scary is it

0:24:21.760,0:24:24.640 straightforward what's your first

0:24:23.520,0:24:25.600 impression

0:24:24.640,0:24:27.360 uh

0:24:25.600,0:24:29.520 it sounds like it

0:24:27.360,0:24:31.120 is manageable for right now but that

0:24:29.520,0:24:32.640 it's probably gonna get a bit harder

0:24:31.120,0:24:34.400 later on

0:24:32.640,0:24:37.440 and that's probably what's going to

0:24:34.400,0:24:39.840 happen which is typical yeah or do you

0:24:37.440,0:24:41.679 have any immediate concerns about any of

0:24:39.840,0:24:42.640 your classes

0:24:41.679,0:24:45.200 um

0:24:42.640,0:24:47.760 just from first impressions

0:24:45.200,0:24:49.600 uh

0:24:47.760,0:24:50.960 i know your spanish class has some

0:24:49.600,0:24:54.159 interesting

0:24:50.960,0:24:55.279 hall pass rules tell us about those

0:24:54.159,0:24:56.720 um

0:24:55.279,0:24:59.440 so that's kind of one of the only

0:24:56.720,0:25:01.200 classes that has mentioned it so far

0:24:59.440,0:25:04.720 apparently you're only allowed to go to

0:25:01.200,0:25:07.520 the bathroom once a week in their class

0:25:04.720,0:25:09.679 what kind of prison rules is that

0:25:07.520,0:25:10.559 yeah and we were like given

0:25:09.679,0:25:12.960 uh

0:25:10.559,0:25:14.640 passes and we only have six passes for

0:25:12.960,0:25:16.559 the marking period

0:25:14.640,0:25:18.480 can you like sell them on ebay and make

0:25:16.559,0:25:20.720 money or something off of them i mean at

0:25:18.480,0:25:22.880 the end of the mocking period if we have

0:25:20.720,0:25:25.760 at least one that's not checked off we

0:25:22.880,0:25:28.799 get five extra credit points so i guess

0:25:25.760,0:25:31.039 we kind of make something from it that's

0:25:28.799,0:25:32.880 that's a little draconian there

0:25:31.039,0:25:34.720 a little bit i can't believe they're

0:25:32.880,0:25:37.600 they're going that route

0:25:34.720,0:25:40.080 i mean yeah i did for spanish class like

0:25:37.600,0:25:42.640 it's not even a class that's like like

0:25:40.080,0:25:44.080 physics or like your advanced math it's

0:25:42.640,0:25:45.600 spanish class

0:25:44.080,0:25:47.840 it's like i think your spanish teacher's

0:25:45.600,0:25:50.080 taking her job a little too seriously

0:25:47.840,0:25:50.080 there

0:25:50.640,0:25:54.400 anyway

0:25:51.760,0:25:56.000 so what about concert band what happened

0:25:54.400,0:25:57.360 with concert band let's talk about that

0:25:56.000,0:25:59.279 a little bit

0:25:57.360,0:26:02.000 yeah

0:25:59.279,0:26:03.200 concert band ain't gonna happen this

0:26:02.000,0:26:05.120 year

0:26:03.200,0:26:07.520 so this one i kind of got a little ride

0:26:05.120,0:26:09.360 off about on yeah so

0:26:07.520,0:26:11.760 you were told from your guidance

0:26:09.360,0:26:13.679 counselor last year that if you wanted

0:26:11.760,0:26:15.440 to be in concert band

0:26:13.679,0:26:16.720 you would have to sacrifice your lunch

0:26:15.440,0:26:17.760 because it would be would be done at

0:26:16.720,0:26:19.440 your lunch

0:26:17.760,0:26:20.559 so when you got your schedule a couple

0:26:19.440,0:26:22.799 weeks ago

0:26:20.559,0:26:25.919 you didn't have concert band but you did

0:26:22.799,0:26:27.679 have lunch so mommy reached out found

0:26:25.919,0:26:29.679 out that well you couldn't have concert

0:26:27.679,0:26:31.919 band because it was the last period of

0:26:29.679,0:26:35.760 the day and that's your gym period uh

0:26:31.919,0:26:36.559 that no that was physics physics physics

0:26:35.760,0:26:37.840 and

0:26:36.559,0:26:39.679 there wasn't anything they could do

0:26:37.840,0:26:43.039 about it

0:26:39.679,0:26:43.039 and i thought that was kind of

0:26:43.360,0:26:46.559 unfair

0:26:44.720,0:26:48.320 you know the fact that that you were

0:26:46.559,0:26:49.440 told one thing and then something else

0:26:48.320,0:26:52.720 happened

0:26:49.440,0:26:55.200 so i wrote a

0:26:52.720,0:26:58.080 let's call it passionate letter

0:26:55.200,0:27:00.480 to your guidance counselor and to the

0:26:58.080,0:27:03.039 administrative staff of the school

0:27:00.480,0:27:04.840 to which i've still not gotten an

0:27:03.039,0:27:07.600 acknowledgement a

0:27:04.840,0:27:10.320 reply they've not told me off they've

0:27:07.600,0:27:11.840 not gotten i've not gotten anything

0:27:10.320,0:27:14.720 which tells me that

0:27:11.840,0:27:17.200 as open and

0:27:14.720,0:27:20.399 interested in communication as they

0:27:17.200,0:27:22.000 pretended to be during orientation

0:27:20.399,0:27:23.520 they don't want to hear about problems

0:27:22.000,0:27:25.039 they only want to get pats on the back

0:27:23.520,0:27:27.039 apparently

0:27:25.039,0:27:28.080 so i'm guessing that's how school's

0:27:27.039,0:27:29.760 going to go

0:27:28.080,0:27:31.120 and we're just going to have to deal

0:27:29.760,0:27:33.039 with it at this point in time and i'll

0:27:31.120,0:27:35.760 have to find some other way maybe i have

0:27:33.039,0:27:37.840 to reach out to the board of education

0:27:35.760,0:27:39.120 instead of the principle and the vice

0:27:37.840,0:27:41.520 principles since i'm not getting

0:27:39.120,0:27:42.559 anything from them

0:27:41.520,0:27:44.159 so

0:27:42.559,0:27:45.919 well you know i just

0:27:44.159,0:27:48.159 it was worth mentioning that this was

0:27:45.919,0:27:49.679 something that you were supposed to get

0:27:48.159,0:27:52.240 you didn't get

0:27:49.679,0:27:53.440 um and the the one thing

0:27:52.240,0:27:56.159 the

0:27:53.440,0:27:59.039 the reason you didn't get it

0:27:56.159,0:28:00.799 became glaringly obvious when we went to

0:27:59.039,0:28:04.240 orientation

0:28:00.799,0:28:05.279 and how there's almost zero focus on the

0:28:04.240,0:28:06.559 arts

0:28:05.279,0:28:08.960 from the school

0:28:06.559,0:28:12.960 and everybody seems to be focused on

0:28:08.960,0:28:13.919 scholastic or focused on athletics

0:28:12.960,0:28:16.640 which

0:28:13.919,0:28:18.480 really is a terrible disservice to the

0:28:16.640,0:28:21.919 students of that school

0:28:18.480,0:28:24.080 because the likelihood of kids

0:28:21.919,0:28:26.760 making anything out of themselves from a

0:28:24.080,0:28:28.480 scholastic standpoint is statistically

0:28:26.760,0:28:31.360 insignificant

0:28:28.480,0:28:33.760 from a professional standpoint

0:28:31.360,0:28:35.679 compared to scholastic

0:28:33.760,0:28:37.440 or compared to

0:28:35.679,0:28:40.399 a career in the arts

0:28:37.440,0:28:42.399 you are infinitely more likely

0:28:40.399,0:28:43.279 to achieve

0:28:42.399,0:28:45.039 a

0:28:43.279,0:28:47.360 measure of professional

0:28:45.039,0:28:49.200 success in the arts than you are as a

0:28:47.360,0:28:50.799 professional athlete

0:28:49.200,0:28:52.559 and the only reason the school is

0:28:50.799,0:28:54.960 focused on athletics is because the

0:28:52.559,0:28:56.960 school it's a money maker for the school

0:28:54.960,0:28:59.279 and they're basically selling the kids

0:28:56.960,0:29:01.440 education and future down the line so

0:28:59.279,0:29:04.640 they can make a few bucks off of them

0:29:01.440,0:29:06.080 and it was very evident in the

0:29:04.640,0:29:08.640 orientation

0:29:06.080,0:29:10.240 when the athletic program

0:29:08.640,0:29:12.559 got like

0:29:10.240,0:29:15.200 eight slides and you had

0:29:12.559,0:29:17.120 maybe one or two slides that they just

0:29:15.200,0:29:20.080 sort of blew through

0:29:17.120,0:29:22.799 for the arts side of things and it was

0:29:20.080,0:29:24.880 kind of an afterthought yeah and kind of

0:29:22.799,0:29:27.679 thinking about it i remember that they

0:29:24.880,0:29:30.720 said um they actually had a completely

0:29:27.679,0:29:32.799 new like weights um area

0:29:30.720,0:29:35.120 that was made for the school

0:29:32.799,0:29:37.520 and yet in marching band we have to make

0:29:35.120,0:29:39.520 donations for the student account yeah

0:29:37.520,0:29:41.679 and that's that's the terrible thing you

0:29:39.520,0:29:42.640 look at the school you have a new turf

0:29:41.679,0:29:46.720 field

0:29:42.640,0:29:49.120 you have a new weight room you have

0:29:46.720,0:29:51.919 two gyms do you have

0:29:49.120,0:29:53.600 and what do you have for a band room

0:29:51.919,0:29:55.840 like it's smaller than the one i had in

0:29:53.600,0:30:00.159 middle school which is which is

0:29:55.840,0:30:01.679 ridiculous absolutely ridiculous and

0:30:00.159,0:30:04.159 this isn't the first time that i'm going

0:30:01.679,0:30:05.760 to complain about this and i suspect

0:30:04.159,0:30:09.440 that i'm going to be sending numerous

0:30:05.760,0:30:11.760 letters and going to student going to

0:30:09.440,0:30:11.760 boards

0:30:12.000,0:30:16.640 parent teacher meetings and school board

0:30:13.760,0:30:18.480 meetings to talk about this because

0:30:16.640,0:30:20.799 what this school system is doing to

0:30:18.480,0:30:22.480 their students is a crime

0:30:20.799,0:30:24.399 it really is

0:30:22.480,0:30:26.559 but anyway i won't get on the on my

0:30:24.399,0:30:28.320 soapbox about that here

0:30:26.559,0:30:30.000 although i already did but let's come

0:30:28.320,0:30:32.080 back off the soapbox

0:30:30.000,0:30:34.240 let's talk about having friends in your

0:30:32.080,0:30:35.279 classes so you made a lot of friends in

0:30:34.240,0:30:38.399 band

0:30:35.279,0:30:39.679 which was very helpful this summer

0:30:38.399,0:30:41.600 kind of gave you a little bit of a head

0:30:39.679,0:30:44.000 start going into school

0:30:41.600,0:30:46.320 how are you doing with uh friends per

0:30:44.000,0:30:47.600 class at this point in time

0:30:46.320,0:30:51.200 well

0:30:47.600,0:30:54.320 i have someone who has seven classes

0:30:51.200,0:30:55.919 of the same ones as me at the same time

0:30:54.320,0:30:58.080 that's pretty impressive

0:30:55.919,0:31:00.320 i mean yeah that's never really happened

0:30:58.080,0:31:02.960 before like

0:31:00.320,0:31:04.720 i have period one period three and by

0:31:02.960,0:31:07.279 the time we have lunch and fifth period

0:31:04.720,0:31:08.799 we have all the same classes right you

0:31:07.279,0:31:11.360 basically are going to the same place

0:31:08.799,0:31:11.360 after lunch

0:31:11.519,0:31:13.760 buddy now

0:31:12.559,0:31:14.559 yeah

0:31:13.760,0:31:16.159 um

0:31:14.559,0:31:18.159 and i guess being in the engineering

0:31:16.159,0:31:20.399 program kind of does give me the

0:31:18.159,0:31:23.279 advantage of kind of having

0:31:20.399,0:31:24.320 the same people in my classes because

0:31:23.279,0:31:26.880 i have

0:31:24.320,0:31:29.360 at because i because in three of my

0:31:26.880,0:31:31.600 classes i have like three i like have

0:31:29.360,0:31:33.519 the same class coming with me

0:31:31.600,0:31:35.919 in at least three of my classes so so

0:31:33.519,0:31:37.360 how do you think that's gonna um help

0:31:35.919,0:31:39.440 you out throughout the year i know

0:31:37.360,0:31:41.279 you've had it in is it

0:31:39.440,0:31:44.000 let's see if i can talk

0:31:41.279,0:31:45.039 i know in the past you've had issues

0:31:44.000,0:31:47.519 with

0:31:45.039,0:31:49.679 being the only person in class that you

0:31:47.519,0:31:52.640 knew like you didn't know anybody else

0:31:49.679,0:31:54.559 and you found that difficult fitting in

0:31:52.640,0:31:57.440 getting put in teens with people you

0:31:54.559,0:31:59.760 didn't know and stuff like that

0:31:57.440,0:32:01.760 how does it help when you're in classes

0:31:59.760,0:32:03.519 with people that you know or at least

0:32:01.760,0:32:06.000 when you're in

0:32:03.519,0:32:08.559 a class with new people but those new

0:32:06.000,0:32:10.480 people are in multiple classes with you

0:32:08.559,0:32:12.880 do you find that comforting at all do

0:32:10.480,0:32:15.120 you find it helpful yeah that sounds

0:32:12.880,0:32:17.919 pretty comforting um especially

0:32:15.120,0:32:21.039 considering the fact that um

0:32:17.919,0:32:24.159 i definitely feel like i'm in

0:32:21.039,0:32:26.799 place with them um and

0:32:24.159,0:32:29.120 i know that we kind of go through

0:32:26.799,0:32:31.120 similar experiences

0:32:29.120,0:32:33.679 we have similar classes

0:32:31.120,0:32:36.240 so um i definitely it's definitely

0:32:33.679,0:32:38.159 pretty comforting to know that um

0:32:36.240,0:32:40.640 i kind of have buddies that i might be

0:32:38.159,0:32:42.559 able to stick with that's nice and you

0:32:40.640,0:32:45.120 know in the event that at some point in

0:32:42.559,0:32:46.799 time you get sick or they get sick you

0:32:45.120,0:32:48.720 just need to exchange contact

0:32:46.799,0:32:51.440 information you can bring homework

0:32:48.720,0:32:54.000 assignments back and forth for them

0:32:51.440,0:32:55.919 you can you can have uh study time with

0:32:54.000,0:32:58.080 them it makes it so much easier when

0:32:55.919,0:33:00.320 you've got a group of people that

0:32:58.080,0:33:01.760 you know that you have common ground

0:33:00.320,0:33:04.320 with there

0:33:01.760,0:33:05.919 and you can ease into subjects or

0:33:04.320,0:33:07.679 you may run into a situation where you

0:33:05.919,0:33:08.960 get a lesson one day and you just don't

0:33:07.679,0:33:10.240 get it

0:33:08.960,0:33:11.600 one of the other kids that you're

0:33:10.240,0:33:14.000 friends with does and you can get

0:33:11.600,0:33:15.840 together with them and it alleviates a

0:33:14.000,0:33:18.159 lot of that anxiety that you were having

0:33:15.840,0:33:19.919 before like you were having issues

0:33:18.159,0:33:22.559 with one or two of your

0:33:19.919,0:33:25.279 uh subjects i know math last year where

0:33:22.559,0:33:26.080 you you had a lesson that was given in

0:33:25.279,0:33:28.320 you

0:33:26.080,0:33:29.440 you didn't get it on the first take and

0:33:28.320,0:33:31.679 a lot of that had to do with the

0:33:29.440,0:33:34.080 barriers that you were running into

0:33:31.679,0:33:35.919 being remote yeah and you didn't have

0:33:34.080,0:33:38.480 anyone to turn to like mommy or daddy

0:33:35.919,0:33:41.120 wouldn't have been much help to having

0:33:38.480,0:33:43.679 that school that that supply that

0:33:41.120,0:33:44.799 support system in place there is is

0:33:43.679,0:33:46.640 something that's going to help along

0:33:44.799,0:33:49.120 those lines

0:33:46.640,0:33:52.960 and the other question i have was

0:33:49.120,0:33:55.200 how different is it for you being or is

0:33:52.960,0:33:56.480 it different for you being in school now

0:33:55.200,0:33:58.000 with students

0:33:56.480,0:33:59.919 rather than the remote learning you did

0:33:58.000,0:34:01.200 for the last year and a half

0:33:59.919,0:34:03.279 it is

0:34:01.200,0:34:04.840 pretty different because

0:34:03.279,0:34:07.600 even when we had

0:34:04.840,0:34:10.560 like calls um

0:34:07.600,0:34:13.359 video calls it didn't really feel like i

0:34:10.560,0:34:15.280 was really part of a class all that much

0:34:13.359,0:34:17.839 all we did was really comment for the

0:34:15.280,0:34:20.159 most part no one really ever wanted to

0:34:17.839,0:34:22.800 show their faces other than the teachers

0:34:20.159,0:34:24.720 and no one really like

0:34:22.800,0:34:26.960 turned off their mic on

0:34:24.720,0:34:28.560 well besides in gym

0:34:26.960,0:34:30.320 so do you think

0:34:28.560,0:34:33.280 what you have now is a better

0:34:30.320,0:34:35.440 environment to be learning in

0:34:33.280,0:34:37.599 maybe maybe not i'm not entirely sure

0:34:35.440,0:34:41.119 right now it might be better

0:34:37.599,0:34:42.960 jory's still out on that one then i mean

0:34:41.119,0:34:44.560 i didn't i wasn't one of the people who

0:34:42.960,0:34:46.720 really had much of a problem for the

0:34:44.560,0:34:48.960 most part with remote learning

0:34:46.720,0:34:51.359 um and now having to go into physical

0:34:48.960,0:34:53.440 learning i don't think it won't it will

0:34:51.359,0:34:56.320 be that much of a problem but you know

0:34:53.440,0:34:58.640 it's still early sure okay

0:34:56.320,0:34:59.839 the last question i had was how is your

0:34:58.640,0:35:02.160 schedule

0:34:59.839,0:35:04.800 i know the one big concern kids have

0:35:02.160,0:35:06.400 every year is where are my classes and

0:35:04.800,0:35:08.160 am i going from

0:35:06.400,0:35:10.240 one side of the campus to the other

0:35:08.160,0:35:12.320 every time i have to change classes

0:35:10.240,0:35:14.839 how's your class scheduling now is it

0:35:12.320,0:35:17.839 space to the point where

0:35:14.839,0:35:19.760 you're not able to get from class to

0:35:17.839,0:35:21.440 class in the amount of time a lot of

0:35:19.760,0:35:23.359 time between classes or do you think

0:35:21.440,0:35:25.280 it's pretty well balanced down i

0:35:23.359,0:35:27.119 honestly think it's pretty well balanced

0:35:25.280,0:35:30.480 out i go from

0:35:27.119,0:35:32.240 one hallway to another hallway that's

0:35:30.480,0:35:34.560 actually very close to each other and

0:35:32.240,0:35:38.079 it's not that far of a distance then i

0:35:34.560,0:35:40.400 go upstairs and i have two classes that

0:35:38.079,0:35:42.079 are in the same hallway and really

0:35:40.400,0:35:43.200 doesn't take all that much time to get

0:35:42.079,0:35:46.400 there

0:35:43.200,0:35:49.359 and the only like commitments i need to

0:35:46.400,0:35:51.599 really have are when i go to gym

0:35:49.359,0:35:54.800 or when i go to the cafeteria mainly

0:35:51.599,0:35:57.040 because of how crowded it can get okay

0:35:54.800,0:35:59.599 well it doesn't sound so bad but even

0:35:57.040,0:36:02.560 then it's not that it's not actually

0:35:59.599,0:36:04.960 that bad it's just you know it takes a

0:36:02.560,0:36:07.280 little longer to get there right

0:36:04.960,0:36:10.079 well i know the last year that you were

0:36:07.280,0:36:12.160 in your other middle school

0:36:10.079,0:36:14.160 you were kind of run ragged around that

0:36:12.160,0:36:16.720 school because you're up you were down

0:36:14.160,0:36:18.240 you were across you were back and

0:36:16.720,0:36:20.240 you had a couple of classes where you

0:36:18.240,0:36:22.079 really had to to book it to get across

0:36:20.240,0:36:23.920 to the next class

0:36:22.079,0:36:26.480 yeah specifically

0:36:23.920,0:36:27.359 um after i would have lunch

0:36:26.480,0:36:29.520 um

0:36:27.359,0:36:32.000 and after i had gym

0:36:29.520,0:36:35.680 were probably the times where it's like

0:36:32.000,0:36:37.839 oh gosh this is really so no hanukkah

0:36:35.680,0:36:40.320 dash is like that in this school

0:36:37.839,0:36:43.200 yeah um and it's nice that i physed at

0:36:40.320,0:36:45.520 the very end yeah um because

0:36:43.200,0:36:47.839 when i was in seventh grade i had it at

0:36:45.520,0:36:50.000 seventh period and then i had ela for

0:36:47.839,0:36:51.520 the last two periods

0:36:50.000,0:36:55.040 and um

0:36:51.520,0:36:57.359 having and my ela class was all the way

0:36:55.040,0:36:59.520 upstairs and all the way at the end of

0:36:57.359,0:37:00.320 the hallway and i came out this door

0:36:59.520,0:37:02.800 right

0:37:00.320,0:37:05.760 so that was the longest commitment and i

0:37:02.800,0:37:07.760 was always and for the most part i was

0:37:05.760,0:37:10.240 like almost

0:37:07.760,0:37:12.480 i was like very close to having the bell

0:37:10.240,0:37:13.839 like ring but the nice thing is in uh

0:37:12.480,0:37:15.200 high school you actually have four

0:37:13.839,0:37:18.400 minutes to get to your classes as

0:37:15.200,0:37:20.400 opposed to two right so it's

0:37:18.400,0:37:22.800 easier to get to my class in the amount

0:37:20.400,0:37:24.800 of time good that's good

0:37:22.800,0:37:26.560 so let's take another break we'll come

0:37:24.800,0:37:31.480 back and we're going to talk about some

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0:38:41.200,0:38:46.000 welcome back to insights into teens we

0:38:43.440,0:38:48.079 are talking back to school little off

0:38:46.000,0:38:49.440 the cuff discussion here

0:38:48.079,0:38:50.640 and a little catch up for the last two

0:38:49.440,0:38:52.640 weeks we're going to talk about some of

0:38:50.640,0:38:54.000 the concerns and issues we have moving

0:38:52.640,0:38:55.440 forward

0:38:54.000,0:38:58.160 and probably the biggest one that i

0:38:55.440,0:39:01.119 think i have and one that i was hoping

0:38:58.160,0:39:04.480 that you'd you'd kind of give me the

0:39:01.119,0:39:06.800 4-1-1 on the the information on

0:39:04.480,0:39:09.040 do you feel safe with the precautions at

0:39:06.800,0:39:10.640 school now for covid

0:39:09.040,0:39:12.160 that's one that we had talked about that

0:39:10.640,0:39:14.880 you're going to kind of have to assess

0:39:12.160,0:39:16.079 and what's your initial assessment

0:39:14.880,0:39:18.960 well

0:39:16.079,0:39:21.200 the good thing is everyone is they make

0:39:18.960,0:39:23.440 sure that everyone's wearing their masks

0:39:21.200,0:39:24.960 properly which is nice

0:39:23.440,0:39:26.960 you're only ever allowed to take your

0:39:24.960,0:39:28.720 mask off if you're actively eating

0:39:26.960,0:39:30.400 actively playing an instrument or

0:39:28.720,0:39:32.480 actively in gym

0:39:30.400,0:39:33.920 okay which one

0:39:32.480,0:39:36.720 that's something

0:39:33.920,0:39:36.720 yeah um

0:39:36.960,0:39:42.640 uh we're having assigned seating so that

0:39:39.920,0:39:44.880 um everyone knows

0:39:42.640,0:39:47.680 um that they're in the same seat and you

0:39:44.880,0:39:49.599 know for cover precautions so that um

0:39:47.680,0:39:51.119 everyone just stays in the same seat

0:39:49.599,0:39:53.520 every day

0:39:51.119,0:39:55.440 uh what about overcrowding how's the

0:39:53.520,0:39:56.960 crowding in there are you bumping into

0:39:55.440,0:39:58.720 people in

0:39:56.960,0:40:01.119 class are you spread out in class are

0:39:58.720,0:40:02.240 you are you tight in the hallways how's

0:40:01.119,0:40:04.240 the

0:40:02.240,0:40:06.240 overall crowding in there

0:40:04.240,0:40:09.040 in the hallways it's a bit tight in the

0:40:06.240,0:40:11.359 classroom it's not really as tight um

0:40:09.040,0:40:13.359 and the classrooms are spaced out okay

0:40:11.359,0:40:15.920 what about you think you had an assembly

0:40:13.359,0:40:18.640 already how was the assembly

0:40:15.920,0:40:19.599 kind of crammed not gonna lie

0:40:18.640,0:40:22.000 like

0:40:19.599,0:40:24.800 we were crammed into one area in the

0:40:22.000,0:40:27.200 auditorium the center and all the seats

0:40:24.800,0:40:29.280 were filled and how did that make you

0:40:27.200,0:40:30.240 feel did you have a sense of anxiety

0:40:29.280,0:40:32.640 from that

0:40:30.240,0:40:35.040 kind of because i knew this really

0:40:32.640,0:40:37.040 wasn't coveted approved i don't know why

0:40:35.040,0:40:39.760 they didn't space us out all that much

0:40:37.040,0:40:41.280 did you say anything to anybody

0:40:39.760,0:40:43.119 um

0:40:41.280,0:40:44.160 i wasn't able to

0:40:43.119,0:40:46.400 um

0:40:44.160,0:40:48.319 i just like i mean i said it out loud

0:40:46.400,0:40:51.760 but i don't really think anyone heard me

0:40:48.319,0:40:53.440 because everyone else was talking so

0:40:51.760,0:40:56.000 all right this this is something i

0:40:53.440,0:40:57.599 definitely wanted to talk about

0:40:56.000,0:40:59.680 i don't want you to be put in a

0:40:57.599,0:41:00.720 situation where you feel unsafe at

0:40:59.680,0:41:02.480 school

0:41:00.720,0:41:03.440 so if you're in a situation like that

0:41:02.480,0:41:05.599 and they're

0:41:03.440,0:41:06.640 asking you to sit or stand or do

0:41:05.599,0:41:08.640 something

0:41:06.640,0:41:10.800 and you don't feel safe

0:41:08.640,0:41:12.160 then you need to tell

0:41:10.800,0:41:14.240 a teacher

0:41:12.160,0:41:16.720 or you need to tell a staff member or

0:41:14.240,0:41:18.880 something like that how you feel

0:41:16.720,0:41:20.560 i don't want you to be shy about it

0:41:18.880,0:41:22.319 because i'll guarantee that there's

0:41:20.560,0:41:24.400 probably a lot of other kids that feel

0:41:22.319,0:41:25.839 the same way and they're afraid to say

0:41:24.400,0:41:29.119 anything

0:41:25.839,0:41:30.400 and if you speak up and set the example

0:41:29.119,0:41:33.200 and let them know that what they're

0:41:30.400,0:41:35.119 doing is making the kids feel unsafe

0:41:33.200,0:41:37.040 you can set the right example from day

0:41:35.119,0:41:39.040 one right there

0:41:37.040,0:41:41.760 you're not gonna get in trouble for it

0:41:39.040,0:41:43.200 trust me if if they even try to get you

0:41:41.760,0:41:44.800 in trouble for that

0:41:43.200,0:41:47.119 they're gonna get a lot more than a

0:41:44.800,0:41:51.599 nasty letter from me

0:41:47.119,0:41:54.160 all right i will back you up 110 on that

0:41:51.599,0:41:56.960 you need to feel safe you know what is

0:41:54.160,0:41:58.880 safe you're well aware of what the cdc

0:41:56.960,0:42:00.400 guidelines are

0:41:58.880,0:42:02.240 you don't know how many of those kids

0:42:00.400,0:42:03.760 have been vaccinated

0:42:02.240,0:42:05.680 just because you're wearing a mask

0:42:03.760,0:42:07.760 doesn't mean you're safe being shoulder

0:42:05.680,0:42:09.440 to shoulder with people

0:42:07.760,0:42:12.319 so i don't want you to feel any

0:42:09.440,0:42:14.160 hesitation whatsoever of going up saying

0:42:12.319,0:42:15.440 hey mr so-and-so

0:42:14.160,0:42:17.760 i don't feel comfortable in this

0:42:15.440,0:42:20.960 situation i'm too close to other people

0:42:17.760,0:42:22.720 during a pandemic can i space out

0:42:20.960,0:42:24.319 can i move someplace else can i sit

0:42:22.720,0:42:27.920 someplace a little bit further away can

0:42:24.319,0:42:30.480 i sit someplace safer i don't feel safe

0:42:27.920,0:42:32.400 and make sure you say those exact words

0:42:30.480,0:42:33.760 i don't feel safe

0:42:32.400,0:42:37.200 because if they don't do anything at

0:42:33.760,0:42:39.599 that point then they're legally liable

0:42:37.200,0:42:41.760 so you need to let them know

0:42:39.599,0:42:45.839 you feel that your safety is threatened

0:42:41.760,0:42:46.960 by what they're trying to do okay

0:42:45.839,0:42:49.359 so

0:42:46.960,0:42:51.119 don't ever hesitate to do that

0:42:49.359,0:42:53.359 and then we'll see how they react to

0:42:51.119,0:42:55.599 that and if they react properly kudos to

0:42:53.359,0:42:57.599 them if they don't

0:42:55.599,0:43:00.319 well if they don't

0:42:57.599,0:43:02.400 i i have an overwhelming sense of pity

0:43:00.319,0:43:04.880 for them if they don't

0:43:02.400,0:43:06.880 because i will rain fire down on them if

0:43:04.880,0:43:08.640 they don't

0:43:06.880,0:43:10.560 because you and every other one of those

0:43:08.640,0:43:12.400 children need to be safe

0:43:10.560,0:43:13.839 you've already gotten notifications from

0:43:12.400,0:43:15.920 the school system

0:43:13.839,0:43:17.680 about covet infections

0:43:15.920,0:43:20.560 and if they're doing stuff like that and

0:43:17.680,0:43:21.760 they're acting stupid like that

0:43:20.560,0:43:23.680 then they need to be called on the

0:43:21.760,0:43:24.560 carpet and they need to make sure that

0:43:23.680,0:43:26.400 they're

0:43:24.560,0:43:28.560 keeping these kids safe

0:43:26.400,0:43:31.520 because i will not send you to school if

0:43:28.560,0:43:32.480 they are refusing to keep you safe

0:43:31.520,0:43:34.880 all right

0:43:32.480,0:43:37.040 yeah neither mommy or i we will both

0:43:34.880,0:43:40.400 back you up on that

0:43:37.040,0:43:41.839 110 percent

0:43:40.400,0:43:43.520 so

0:43:41.839,0:43:45.599 make sure you speak up

0:43:43.520,0:43:47.440 you set that example

0:43:45.599,0:43:48.640 and you let them deal with it at that

0:43:47.440,0:43:50.880 point in time

0:43:48.640,0:43:52.800 and i'll guarantee you there will be

0:43:50.880,0:43:54.400 other kids tons of other kids are going

0:43:52.800,0:43:56.160 to feel the same way and they're going

0:43:54.400,0:43:57.920 to be glad that you've got the courage

0:43:56.160,0:43:59.520 to do that

0:43:57.920,0:44:02.000 all right so let's just keep that in

0:43:59.520,0:44:04.240 mind in the back of our mind

0:44:02.000,0:44:06.560 besides that do they have cleaning

0:44:04.240,0:44:08.640 supplies available do they have barriers

0:44:06.560,0:44:10.480 up talk to me about some of the the

0:44:08.640,0:44:12.880 protocols that they have

0:44:10.480,0:44:14.319 they do have cleaning supplies that you

0:44:12.880,0:44:16.880 can use

0:44:14.319,0:44:18.000 um but they don't have any barriers up

0:44:16.880,0:44:19.839 okay

0:44:18.000,0:44:22.560 so are you cleaning

0:44:19.839,0:44:24.560 yeah okay what about hand sanitizing uh

0:44:22.560,0:44:27.200 they do have hand sanitizer but i did

0:44:24.560,0:44:28.319 bring my own so i kind of used that good

0:44:27.200,0:44:30.319 girl

0:44:28.319,0:44:32.319 how are the bathrooms are the bathrooms

0:44:30.319,0:44:35.520 being cleaned

0:44:32.319,0:44:38.640 um i don't know i haven't really gone in

0:44:35.520,0:44:40.800 the bathroom what about water fountains

0:44:38.640,0:44:41.839 are they opening in use

0:44:40.800,0:44:44.720 um

0:44:41.839,0:44:46.560 i believe so but you're not using them

0:44:44.720,0:44:48.240 right no okay

0:44:46.560,0:44:50.720 do you have a water bottle that you can

0:44:48.240,0:44:52.720 fill up and keep with you yeah i could

0:44:50.720,0:44:54.400 okay i do that's the best thing to do

0:44:52.720,0:44:55.920 then yeah

0:44:54.400,0:44:58.960 and the nice thing is they do allow

0:44:55.920,0:45:01.440 water bottles um which is nice i've seen

0:44:58.960,0:45:02.480 other kids have water bottles right well

0:45:01.440,0:45:05.040 because i know they were giving them out

0:45:02.480,0:45:06.079 of the orientation as a as the prize

0:45:05.040,0:45:08.000 yeah

0:45:06.079,0:45:09.839 okay so that's that's okay is there

0:45:08.000,0:45:11.599 anything else that's happening that

0:45:09.839,0:45:14.079 makes you feel unsafe or that you're

0:45:11.599,0:45:15.200 questioning from a a crovid protocol

0:45:14.079,0:45:17.680 standpoint

0:45:15.200,0:45:20.000 that would probably be the bus's home

0:45:17.680,0:45:21.440 okay it's extremely crowded in there to

0:45:20.000,0:45:23.680 the point where the three suitors

0:45:21.440,0:45:25.440 actually have to fit three people and

0:45:23.680,0:45:27.520 the two seaters actually have to fit two

0:45:25.440,0:45:29.359 people and like

0:45:27.520,0:45:32.240 like mommy said with little kids you can

0:45:29.359,0:45:35.119 kind of fit three people in there but

0:45:32.240,0:45:37.359 with high schoolers you really can't

0:45:35.119,0:45:40.079 right and um

0:45:37.359,0:45:42.880 the good thing was me and kenny um are

0:45:40.079,0:45:45.760 able to just sit in the three seater

0:45:42.880,0:45:47.680 and not really have to have three people

0:45:45.760,0:45:50.319 which is nice because we kind of space

0:45:47.680,0:45:53.359 each other ourselves from each other um

0:45:50.319,0:45:55.280 so at least i feel safe from that

0:45:53.359,0:45:59.280 but like

0:45:55.280,0:46:01.680 there are a lot of people on that bus

0:45:59.280,0:46:04.400 and it's extremely crammed

0:46:01.680,0:46:05.839 so are there hand sanitizers or wipes or

0:46:04.400,0:46:08.960 anything on the bus

0:46:05.839,0:46:10.560 i can't tell you can't tell okay

0:46:08.960,0:46:12.839 are they ventilating the bus are there

0:46:10.560,0:46:15.839 windows down how is the bus

0:46:12.839,0:46:18.560 ventilation um

0:46:15.839,0:46:21.440 i think you can put the windows down um

0:46:18.560,0:46:23.440 i'm not entirely sure i've

0:46:21.440,0:46:25.040 never really paid too much attention to

0:46:23.440,0:46:26.480 it okay

0:46:25.040,0:46:28.640 all right these are things that mommy

0:46:26.480,0:46:30.560 and i are gonna have to address

0:46:28.640,0:46:31.680 will will certainly make our concerns

0:46:30.560,0:46:34.640 known

0:46:31.680,0:46:35.100 any other coveted related concerns

0:46:34.640,0:46:36.640 um

0:46:35.100,0:46:39.599 [Music]

0:46:36.640,0:46:41.680 i think that's mostly it okay

0:46:39.599,0:46:44.720 so how about the schedule how are you

0:46:41.680,0:46:46.319 holding up are you tired are you

0:46:44.720,0:46:47.680 you have enough energy you're getting

0:46:46.319,0:46:49.680 enough sleep

0:46:47.680,0:46:50.960 what's going on with your your sleep

0:46:49.680,0:46:51.920 patterns

0:46:50.960,0:46:53.839 um

0:46:51.920,0:46:57.599 i've started getting used to it at this

0:46:53.839,0:47:01.359 point um it's not insanely bad i've

0:46:57.599,0:47:04.079 gotten i've been getting good sleep

0:47:01.359,0:47:07.440 um and i've been

0:47:04.079,0:47:10.000 having enough energy during the day so

0:47:07.440,0:47:12.480 um i think so far with my sleep schedule

0:47:10.000,0:47:14.319 it's been all right um so how about even

0:47:12.480,0:47:17.520 the nights that you've got band practice

0:47:14.319,0:47:17.520 how is that on you

0:47:17.760,0:47:21.440 uh

0:47:20.000,0:47:23.280 i definitely think

0:47:21.440,0:47:24.480 that's gonna be a bit of a challenge to

0:47:23.280,0:47:26.960 work through

0:47:24.480,0:47:28.800 because when i came home on wednesday i

0:47:26.960,0:47:29.680 wasn't really feeling all that well

0:47:28.800,0:47:31.440 right

0:47:29.680,0:47:33.119 um so

0:47:31.440,0:47:36.000 that might be something we have to look

0:47:33.119,0:47:37.440 for look for okay um

0:47:36.000,0:47:39.359 we'll have to keep an eye on that and

0:47:37.440,0:47:41.680 see what we what we can do to adjust

0:47:39.359,0:47:43.839 that was it just that you were tired and

0:47:41.680,0:47:45.680 exhausted was it heat did you not get

0:47:43.839,0:47:47.920 enough to drink you think

0:47:45.680,0:47:50.640 um i felt like i had a decent amount to

0:47:47.920,0:47:53.440 drink it wasn't too hot out i might not

0:47:50.640,0:47:55.839 have had enough energy at the time and

0:47:53.440,0:47:58.640 i guess just the fact that

0:47:55.839,0:48:01.040 we had to pretty much do the same stuff

0:47:58.640,0:48:02.480 over and over again kind of got tiring

0:48:01.040,0:48:05.200 at the point where

0:48:02.480,0:48:07.599 i kind of just didn't really have the

0:48:05.200,0:48:08.960 energy i started completely losing it

0:48:07.599,0:48:10.880 faster

0:48:08.960,0:48:13.040 more mental exhaustion that led to

0:48:10.880,0:48:14.480 physical exhaustion yeah you know the

0:48:13.040,0:48:15.280 repetitiveness i could see that all

0:48:14.480,0:48:18.160 right

0:48:15.280,0:48:20.480 but we'll definitely keep an eye on that

0:48:18.160,0:48:22.480 uh how much are classes do you like your

0:48:20.480,0:48:24.800 teachers

0:48:22.480,0:48:26.800 mostly mostly that's a vote of

0:48:24.800,0:48:29.200 confidence

0:48:26.800,0:48:31.440 the only one i'm not really all that

0:48:29.200,0:48:32.640 fond of right now don't mention too much

0:48:31.440,0:48:34.319 in here because you never know who

0:48:32.640,0:48:36.000 watches the podcast or listen to the

0:48:34.319,0:48:38.160 podcast true

0:48:36.000,0:48:40.480 there is one teacher i'm not necessarily

0:48:38.160,0:48:42.480 fond of they take their job a bit too

0:48:40.480,0:48:44.720 seriously i think

0:48:42.480,0:48:46.880 okay to the point where

0:48:44.720,0:48:48.720 they have our first assignment on friday

0:48:46.880,0:48:50.880 where none of my other teachers really

0:48:48.720,0:48:53.200 have that right now okay

0:48:50.880,0:48:54.160 and like it was an easy assignment it's

0:48:53.200,0:48:56.079 just

0:48:54.160,0:48:58.000 do you really have to be that hard on us

0:48:56.079,0:49:00.160 this early maybe they're just trying to

0:48:58.000,0:49:02.319 set that pace up for you that you're

0:49:00.160,0:49:03.599 going they're gonna drive you and

0:49:02.319,0:49:05.359 there's nothing wrong with being

0:49:03.599,0:49:07.440 challenged

0:49:05.359,0:49:10.640 if they do it with unrealistic

0:49:07.440,0:49:12.480 expectations then we have a problem

0:49:10.640,0:49:14.319 but i don't think it's unrealistic to

0:49:12.480,0:49:16.480 expect kids to turn in an assignment

0:49:14.319,0:49:18.720 after the first week of school

0:49:16.480,0:49:20.559 it kind of gives the teacher you know

0:49:18.720,0:49:24.160 kind of lets the teacher set the bar too

0:49:20.559,0:49:25.119 as as to what to expect for these kids

0:49:24.160,0:49:27.760 all right

0:49:25.119,0:49:29.359 so not too bad there what about

0:49:27.760,0:49:31.200 the curriculum have you run into

0:49:29.359,0:49:32.800 anything with the curriculum yet that's

0:49:31.200,0:49:35.119 concerning to you

0:49:32.800,0:49:35.119 uh

0:49:35.760,0:49:40.000 i just know i'm gonna be expecting a lot

0:49:37.680,0:49:42.160 of work and with marching band that

0:49:40.000,0:49:44.079 might be difficult i guess i'll just you

0:49:42.160,0:49:46.480 know have to deal with it yeah well in

0:49:44.079,0:49:49.119 marching bands not all year so you you

0:49:46.480,0:49:51.520 know if you can look at it this way

0:49:49.119,0:49:53.520 if you can deal with the workload while

0:49:51.520,0:49:54.880 you're in marching band for the first

0:49:53.520,0:49:56.640 couple of months

0:49:54.880,0:49:58.960 then you'll be able to breeze through

0:49:56.640,0:50:00.319 with the rest of the year yeah so this

0:49:58.960,0:50:01.920 is going to be the probably the most

0:50:00.319,0:50:03.440 difficult part

0:50:01.920,0:50:04.720 of the year for you

0:50:03.440,0:50:05.920 so we've got to keep an eye on it and

0:50:04.720,0:50:08.160 make sure that you're okay and you're

0:50:05.920,0:50:10.000 staying up on everything

0:50:08.160,0:50:12.400 it's a test and we'll see how you pass

0:50:10.000,0:50:13.440 the test okay

0:50:12.400,0:50:15.680 um

0:50:13.440,0:50:17.599 chromebooks so you guys are switching

0:50:15.680,0:50:21.359 the chromebooks this year

0:50:17.599,0:50:23.200 um no textbooks some textbooks well you

0:50:21.359,0:50:24.480 they still have the textbooks in case

0:50:23.200,0:50:26.640 you need them but they're not giving

0:50:24.480,0:50:28.319 them out so you literally just go from

0:50:26.640,0:50:30.000 classic fans with a chromebook and what

0:50:28.319,0:50:32.480 a notebook or two

0:50:30.000,0:50:34.240 yeah and like some stuff for like

0:50:32.480,0:50:36.640 binders and stuff

0:50:34.240,0:50:37.599 how are you adjusting to that

0:50:36.640,0:50:39.440 um

0:50:37.599,0:50:42.400 it's nice not having to carry around

0:50:39.440,0:50:45.200 giant books all day right um still kind

0:50:42.400,0:50:47.359 of have a heavy bag but it's not as

0:50:45.200,0:50:50.960 heavy as it would have been if i did

0:50:47.359,0:50:52.240 have those like five pound books okay

0:50:50.960,0:50:53.520 are you comfortable using the

0:50:52.240,0:50:56.079 chromebooks

0:50:53.520,0:50:58.160 i i feel so um

0:50:56.079,0:51:00.720 it's definitely not my actual laptop

0:50:58.160,0:51:02.480 which i'm actually using at home because

0:51:00.720,0:51:04.079 you don't want to have this connect to

0:51:02.480,0:51:05.680 the in my chromebook connect to the

0:51:04.079,0:51:07.119 internet here well we can get you

0:51:05.680,0:51:08.319 connected here if you have stuff on

0:51:07.119,0:51:10.000 there you need to work with so don't

0:51:08.319,0:51:11.280 worry about that okay we'll get you

0:51:10.000,0:51:13.599 connected

0:51:11.280,0:51:13.599 um

0:51:13.839,0:51:18.079 no no issues technology wise though

0:51:16.480,0:51:19.760 using it if you're comfortable with it

0:51:18.079,0:51:22.640 the interface is okay

0:51:19.760,0:51:25.280 yeah it's fine it's just it just feels

0:51:22.640,0:51:27.200 like a smaller screen than you'd kind of

0:51:25.280,0:51:30.240 expect because like

0:51:27.200,0:51:33.680 with my engineering and cad classes we

0:51:30.240,0:51:36.480 actually have legitimate computers

0:51:33.680,0:51:39.599 right um which with a much larger screen

0:51:36.480,0:51:42.240 that while the keyboard's kind of clunky

0:51:39.599,0:51:44.640 it's actually a lot easier to see

0:51:42.240,0:51:46.240 but the chromebook gets kind of small

0:51:44.640,0:51:47.839 okay

0:51:46.240,0:51:49.599 well and we we might be able to work

0:51:47.839,0:51:52.000 around that here if we have to i can't

0:51:49.599,0:51:53.680 do much for you in class but it's all

0:51:52.000,0:51:56.079 right we might be able to work around

0:51:53.680,0:51:58.240 with the with it here for homework and

0:51:56.079,0:52:00.400 stuff like that yeah but overall using

0:51:58.240,0:52:02.319 it at school i feel is

0:52:00.400,0:52:03.760 fine yeah well that's good i didn't

0:52:02.319,0:52:05.440 think it would be too big of a leap

0:52:03.760,0:52:07.359 since you were kind of homeschooling on

0:52:05.440,0:52:09.680 a computer the last two and a half at

0:52:07.359,0:52:11.520 least year and a half anyway so

0:52:09.680,0:52:13.520 using your chromebooks a bit of a

0:52:11.520,0:52:14.640 learning curve because of the operating

0:52:13.520,0:52:16.640 system but

0:52:14.640,0:52:20.000 good i'm glad it wasn't it wasn't a big

0:52:16.640,0:52:22.800 concern um what other concerns or issues

0:52:20.000,0:52:24.020 do you have that we haven't talked about

0:52:22.800,0:52:27.349 um

0:52:24.020,0:52:27.349 [Music]

0:52:30.559,0:52:37.599 any personality conflicts you've had any

0:52:34.800,0:52:39.760 no bullying at this point i assume

0:52:37.599,0:52:40.800 no no bullying has been happening i've

0:52:39.760,0:52:43.440 never really

0:52:40.800,0:52:45.359 interacted all that much with

0:52:43.440,0:52:46.720 some of the people so

0:52:45.359,0:52:48.240 how about marching band do you have a

0:52:46.720,0:52:49.839 lot of marching band kids in your

0:52:48.240,0:52:52.559 classes

0:52:49.839,0:52:55.440 um not

0:52:52.559,0:52:57.359 some but not a lot okay

0:52:55.440,0:52:58.880 are there any other concerns about

0:52:57.359,0:53:01.530 school that you have at this point in

0:52:58.880,0:53:04.800 time

0:53:01.530,0:53:06.400 [Music]

0:53:04.800,0:53:08.960 doesn't sound like there's anything

0:53:06.400,0:53:08.960 pressing

0:53:09.280,0:53:15.520 yeah which is kind of surprising i'm

0:53:12.079,0:53:18.480 still kind of waiting to see how things

0:53:15.520,0:53:19.520 go well it's it's very early you know i

0:53:18.480,0:53:21.520 think the

0:53:19.520,0:53:23.920 my main purpose of of

0:53:21.520,0:53:25.119 the podcast today was kind of just feel

0:53:23.920,0:53:26.480 things out and get your initial

0:53:25.119,0:53:29.839 impressions and

0:53:26.480,0:53:31.440 address any concerns that you might have

0:53:29.839,0:53:32.960 you know we'll certainly check in we'd

0:53:31.440,0:53:34.960 like to do it as a podcast but we'll

0:53:32.960,0:53:37.760 check in throughout the

0:53:34.960,0:53:39.760 year as we move on and as problems creep

0:53:37.760,0:53:42.079 up we'll figure them out and we'll deal

0:53:39.760,0:53:44.079 with them that's what we do you know

0:53:42.079,0:53:46.079 there isn't anything that that we can't

0:53:44.079,0:53:48.000 address and take care of we we take care

0:53:46.079,0:53:50.160 of it all

0:53:48.000,0:53:52.000 so i that's all i had i mean i just

0:53:50.160,0:53:54.000 threw together some some quick notes and

0:53:52.000,0:53:55.839 some questions that i had

0:53:54.000,0:53:57.200 uh we'll take a quick break and we'll

0:53:55.839,0:53:58.960 come back and we'll get your closing

0:53:57.200,0:54:00.960 thoughts on on

0:53:58.960,0:54:02.000 how school start the school start of

0:54:00.960,0:54:03.599 school is

0:54:02.000,0:54:05.200 or anything else you want to talk about

0:54:03.599,0:54:06.079 so your show you can talk about whatever

0:54:05.200,0:54:09.640 you want

0:54:06.079,0:54:09.640 we'll be right back

0:54:12.079,0:54:15.599 go with your closing remarks all right

0:54:14.640,0:54:17.599 so

0:54:15.599,0:54:20.240 i know this podcast really doesn't have

0:54:17.599,0:54:21.839 all that much of a message to it it was

0:54:20.240,0:54:23.680 kind of just a

0:54:21.839,0:54:26.400 hey let's check in and see how the last

0:54:23.680,0:54:29.440 two weeks have been um

0:54:26.400,0:54:30.960 but yeah i've started school and

0:54:29.440,0:54:32.800 i'm probably gonna have to deal with a

0:54:30.960,0:54:35.520 lot of stuff that

0:54:32.800,0:54:37.760 hopefully we can try relating to

0:54:35.520,0:54:39.839 everyone at home um

0:54:37.760,0:54:40.640 i at least hope that this

0:54:39.839,0:54:43.119 is

0:54:40.640,0:54:44.240 was at least somewhat helpful if not at

0:54:43.119,0:54:46.720 least

0:54:44.240,0:54:49.440 you enjoyed watching um

0:54:46.720,0:54:53.359 i at least hope this was an okay podcast

0:54:49.440,0:54:55.520 after not being here for a week okay

0:54:53.359,0:54:57.359 i would say there was sage words but

0:54:55.520,0:54:58.799 really that was just you summing things

0:54:57.359,0:55:00.000 up

0:54:58.799,0:55:02.319 yeah

0:55:00.000,0:55:04.079 um i think a lot of kids out there that

0:55:02.319,0:55:07.040 might be watching the podcast have gone

0:55:04.079,0:55:09.119 through similar things as you uh start

0:55:07.040,0:55:12.720 of school is always kind of a

0:55:09.119,0:55:14.160 nervous time a high a heightened emotion

0:55:12.720,0:55:16.000 time

0:55:14.160,0:55:17.920 lots of new things especially going into

0:55:16.000,0:55:19.760 high school for the first time you know

0:55:17.920,0:55:22.240 this will be the first and only time you

0:55:19.760,0:55:24.240 ever have to do this yeah high school is

0:55:22.240,0:55:27.119 all downhill from here

0:55:24.240,0:55:29.440 that's the best way to look at it yeah

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After 20 years of military operations, over $2 trillion dollars, an estimated 160,000 lives 50,000 of which were civilian, 2,448 American Service members, 3,846 US Contractors, roughly 66,000 Afghan national military and police, 1,144 allied service members, 44 aid workers, 72 journalists and over 50,000 Taliban and other opposition fighters the United States is finally pulling out of Afghanistan. While that is an exceedingly high toll to pay for America’s longest war ever those numbers are just a fraction of what the long term consequences will cost. In today’s episode we’re going to take a look at the long war in Afghanistan, the history surrounding the disputed country, how we got here, what went wrong and what the future holds for the country, the region and the world as a result of what’s happened there.

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  • [INTRODUCTIONS] (3-5 minutes)
    • Show introduction:
      • Insights Into Tomorrow Episode: 15 “Battleground Afghanistan”
    • Host introductions
      • Host (Joseph Whalen)
      • My co-host (Sam Whalen)

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    • After 20 years of military operations, over $2 trillion dollars, an estimated 160,000 lives 50,000 of which were civilian, 2,448 American Service members, 3,846 US Contractors, roughly 66,000 Afghan national military and police, 1,144 allied service members, 44 aid workers, 72 journalists and over 50,000 Taliban and other opposition fighters the United States is finally pulling out of Afghanistan. While that is an exceedingly high toll to pay for America’s longest war ever those numbers are just a fraction of what the long term consequences will cost. In today’s episode we’re going to take a look at the long war in Afghanistan, the history surrounding the disputed country, how we got here, what went wrong and what the future holds for the country, the region and the world as a result of what’s happened there.

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[TRANSITION]

[SEGMENT 1: Topic Introduction/Episode Premise] (5-10 minutes)

Never get involved in a land war in Asia

  • The phrase has been attributed to several sources including British General Bernard Montgomery and American General Dwight Eisenhower
  • It was even a popular phrase from the cult classic The Princess Bride
  • But it was Douglas MacArthur offering it to President Kennedy in a private meeting the two had at the Waldorf Astoria Hotel in New York in April of 1961 that I think rings most true
  • Today the phrase has become a part of our popular vernacular as a warning to avoid starting a conflict that’s too large or onerous for you properly resolve it or achieve victory.
  • It’s an expensive lesson the French learned in Viet Nam
  • A lesson the United States had to relearn during more than a decade in country continuing that conflict
  • It’s a lesson the Russians learned during what was termed their own “Viet Nam” in Afghanistan between 1979 and 1989
  • But again, a lesson the United States failed to heed and wound up getting itself into and having to learn on it’s own
  • We’re talking of course about the twenty plus years that the United States has been embroiled in the War on Terror in Afghanistan that we’re only now pulling out of with what can generously be described as disastrous consequences for the country
  • Why is it that the United States seems incapable of learning from other countries mistakes and so intent on blundering into them ourselves?
    • Is it arrogance?
    • Is it pride?
    • Does the United States think that we can somehow be successful where other countries have had dismal failures?

How we got to where we are today

  • The United States most recent involvement in Afghanistan was a product of the War on Terror
  • Which itself was a response to the September 11 terrorist attacks on the United States
  • It isn’t possible to address this subject without talking about those attacks and the ensuing War on Terror that followed
  • For many of us the events of September 11th are burned into our memory
    • But for comparative purposes we need to talk about some of the details of those events
    • Four California bound Jumbo Jets originating form three different airports across the Northeastern United States were hijacked mid-flight by a total of 19 Al-Qaeda terrorists
      • 15 of the terrorists were citizens of Saudi Arabia
      • 2 were from the United Arab Emirates
      • 1 was from Lebanon
      • 1 was from Egypt
      • It’s worth noting, none of the terrorists originated in any of the countries targeted in the War on Terror
    • American Airlines Flight 11 and United Airlines flight 175 targeted the twin towers of the World Trade Center in Manhattan New York
    • American Airlines flight 77 struck the Pentagon
    • United Airlines flight 93 crashed enroute to its intended target which was suspected to be the White House or some other Washington DC based target when passengers on the plan, alerted by cell phone of the other hijackings took matters into their own hands to stop the terrorists
    • In total, 2,996 lives were lost including the 19 terrorist hijackers
    • More than 25,000 are estimated to have been injured
  • On September 16 2001 then President George W. Bush coined the phrase “War on Terror” to describe the United State’s response to the terrorist attacks on the United States.
    • This included the following:
      • Targeted strikes against Al-Qaeda insurgency in Yemen which the United States had been involved with since 1998
      • American-led “intervention” in Afghanistan which started in 2001
      • Iraqi conflict started in 2003
      • Pursuit of Osama Bin Laden into Pakistan starting in 2004
  • On May 23rd 2013 then President Barack Obama announced that the Global War on Terror was over, saying US military and intelligence will not wage war against a tactic but will instead focus on a specific group of networks determined to destroy the US.
  • On December 28 2014 the Obama administration announced and end of the combat role of the US led mission in Afghanistan despite the fact that the US continued to play a major role in the War in Afghanistan
  • In 2017 then president Trump significantly expanded the American military presence in Afghanistan

[AD1: SSE]

[SEGMENT 2: Historical background/Symptoms and signs] (10-15 minutes)

Withdrawal from Afghanistan

  • On April 14, 2021 President Biden announces the full U.S. troop withdrawal from Afghanistan by September 11
    • President Joe Biden said the war in Afghanistan was never meant to be multi-generational as he officially announced the drawdown of all remaining 2,500 US troops in that country beginning May 1 and concluding by September 11th
    • The President noted that only the citizens of Afghanistan have the right and responsibility to lead their country
    • This announcement was made after consulting with “our allies and partners, with our military leaders and intelligence personnel, with our diplomats and our development experts, with the Congress and the Vice President, as well as with [Afghan President Ashraf Ghani] and many other surround the world”
  • The United States met its objective 10 years ago with the assassination of Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin laden.
    • Biden added “Our reasons for staying have become increasingly unclear”
    • It’s worth noting the Bin Laden was killed during the presidency of Barack Obama, during which Biden served as vice president
    • More than two years passed during the Obama administration after Bin Laden’s death in which the objectives in Afghanistan were not clarified nor was a planned withdrawal put in place
  • Biden notes in his remarks that over the past 20 years “the [terrorist] threat has become more dispersed, metastasizing around the globe”
    • It could be argued that this was a direct result of the United States effort to wage a conventional style war against nation states when their true enemy deployed asymmetric guerilla warfare tactics
  • It’s important to note that while still in office Donald Trump negotiated a deal with the Taliban to withdraw US military personnel
    • This deal was done without the participation of the current Afghan government and without their consent
    • It promised a US Withdraw by May 1st 2021
    • It was still in effect when Joe Biden revised the timeline to September 11th and when he started the pullout in August

The Immediate Aftermath

  • It’s estimated that as many as 15,000 Americans remain in Afghanistan after the Taliban’s takeover of the country
  • More than 20,000 Afghans who aided the United States over the past 20 years qualified for Special Immigrant Visas but also remained in country after the Taliban takeover
  • United States Military offices including Marine General Frank McKenzie have admitted lacking the resources to secure the perimeter around Kabul airport
    • He also emphasized that he did not have the resources to venture into the city to evacuate anyone or provide safe passage
  • The Taliban indicated they would allow foreigners access to the airport for evacuations but news accounts suggest this isn’t a policy that’s being enforced with any consistency
  • The Biden administration initially indicated there was no expectation of an imminent take over by the Taliban after a US Pull out
  • The US had trained and equipped more than 300,000 Afghan military personnel who were expected to maintain their territory and fend off the Taliban

Questions

  • With an announcement on April 14th of the firm deadline to pull out, why were there still so many American’s in country?
  • Why were qualifying Visa’s for the allied Afghans not pre-processed before the withdrawal?
  • Why was an evacuation of the Afghan allies not started before the withdrawal?
  • Why did the Afghan military fall so quickly and let the Taliban take over?

[AD2: Teens] (1 minute)

[SEGMENT 3: The Future/Solutions to the issues] (10-15 minutes)

What went wrong?

  • The Country and its Citizens

  • Countries have made the mistake of trying nation building in Afghanistan for over a hundred years

  • The Afghans are fiercely independent and incredibly resilient people
  • They’re accustomed to enduring hardship after so many years

  • The harsh landscape makes conventional warfare nearly impossible with it’s rugged mountains and lack of adequate infrastructure outside of the cities

  • The United States

    • Primarily the result of an overall lack of guidance and strategy or objective to our presence in Afghanistan
    • Incompetence or ignorance on the part of the intelligence agencies
      • There’s evidence that diplomats in country had warned the administration and intelligence establishment of the strong possibility of a rapid Afghan fall which were ignored
    • Loss of interest in the conflict on the part of the American people
      • 20 years on, we thought we accomplished our primary objectives
      • The war was crushingly expensive
      • Casualty rates of any level were considered unacceptable
      • The lack of or prevention of further terrorist attacks put the original purpose of the mission largely out of peoples minds
  • The Afghan Military
    • They collapsed like a cheap law chair
      • Incompetence, indifference or cowardice caused the Afghan armed forces to simply cave
    • A lack of structured military control by the government in outlying regions
      • The government was counting on regional warlords to defend territory
      • There was likely a fair amount of incursion of Taliban supports in the existing military units
      • Some warlords (and possibly government officials) were simply paid to let the Taliban step in
    • Government abandonment
      • The president was quick to flee the country to “avoid bloodshed”
      • This signaled an overall lack of effective leadership
      • There was signs of desperation early on as regional capitals fell
  • Joe Biden
    • He was surely dealt a bad hand by the deal Trump struck with the Taliban
    • His intelligence agencies failed to plan for the contingency
    • There was an overall lack of air support provided militarily
    • Joe Biden has consistently dropped the ball while attempting to address the issues
      • Getting by on the fact that he’s not Donald Trump isn’t cutting it at this point
      • He’s failed to properly plan
      • He’s failed to properly lead
      • He’s failed to provide remedies to resolve the issue

[AD3: Entertainment] (1 minute)

[SEGMENT 4: The Future/Solutions to the issues] (10-15 minutes)

The Future of Afghanistan and the United States

  • Immediately, Afghanistan will once again fall under the oppressive regime of the Taliban
    • There will be no democratic system of government at all
    • Restoration of harsh Sharia law
      • A body of religious rules to guide day to day lives of Muslims
      • Stringent code of punishment
      • Islamic personal laws governing marriage, inheritance and child custody
      • Limited woman’s rights
        • Forced to wear head-to-toe face covering garment (burqas)
        • Beatings if they step outside without a mail guardian
        • No schooling
        • Public execution, whipping or stoning for violating the law
    • Economic Sanctions
      • This is sure to be the next step by the United States in order to try to resolve the issues in country
      • This will ultimately lead to hardship and deprivation for the citizens of Afghanistan
      • This might even hamper international relief efforts and attempts to clean the country up after 20 plus years of war including the disposal of land mines

  • A haven for terrorists

    • The Taliban have historically proven to be supportive of terrorist organizations and to a certain extent practice terroristic activities themselves.
    • ISIS-K
      • (an extremist branch of the Islamic State of Iraq and the Levant, the K stands for Khorasan, a historical province which once stretched across Afghanistan, Turkmenistan, Pakistan and Iran)
      • Launched multiple attacks on refugees at the airport in Kabul killing over 170 civilians and 13 US service members
      • Within the last 24 hours the US had launched drone strikes in the Nangarhar Province of Afghanistan targeting one of the suspected planners of the attacks
    • History with al-Qaeda
      • The Taliban already have a history with Al-Qaeda, sheltering Osama Bin Laden during the American search for him after the 9/11 attacks
      • Afghan leaders have recent made statements in support of Bin Laden raising questions of their continued support for the terrorist group

  • Damage to America’s reputation

    • This will no doubt weaken the United States on the world stage
    • Our reputation with allies will suffer when they see how poorly we treated our Afghan allies
    • We’re creating yet another refugee crisis that the rest of the world will have to shoulder the burden of
  • Afghan Civil War
    • It’s hard to imagine this not ending with a bloody civil war among the Afghans
    • It wouldn’t be the first time or the last time
    • A civil war is an opportunity to have a proxy war between other less involved countries
    • The region will continue to be war torn for years to come

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battleground afghanistan

i'm your host joseph whalen and my

co-host sam whalen hello everybody how

you doing today sam doing okay

anything exciting going on

not much just uh prepping for the school

year getting back in the swing of things

uh

you know just counting down the days

yeah yeah

days until you start or days until it's

over yes

so today we are talking about

one that's pulled directly from the

headlines and that is what's going on in

afghanistan

so after years of military operations

over two trillion dollars spent

an estimated lies which include

of which were civilian

five service members

almost four thousand u s contractors

and over sixty thousand afghan national

military police

there is also

almost allied service members

aid workers and journalists

and that doesn't even count the

taliban

and other opposition fighters

the united states is finally pulling out

of afghanistan

while that's an exceedingly high toll to

pay for america's longest war ever those

numbers are just a fraction of what the

long-term consequences will cost

in today's episode we're going to take a

look at the long war in afghanistan the

history surrounding the disputed country

how we got there what went wrong

and what the future holds for the

country the region and the world

as a result of what happened there

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never get involved in a land war in asia

the phrase has been attributed to

several sources including british

general bernard montgomery and american

general dwight eisenhower

it was even a popular phrase from the

cult classic the princess bride as kind

of a joke but it was douglas macarthur

offering it to president kennedy in a

private meeting the two had

at the waldorf astoria in new york in

april of that really rings true

today the phrase has come has become

part of our popular vernacular

as a warning to avoid starting the

conflict it's too large or onerous for

you to properly resolve it or to achieve

victory

it's an expensive lesson the french

learned in vietnam

a lesson the united states had to

relearn

during more than a decade in the country

same country continuing that conflict

it's a lesson the russians learned

during what was termed their own vietnam

in afghanistan between and

but again a lesson the united states

seemed to fail to heed and wound up

getting itself into and having to learn

on its own

we're talking of course about the

-plus years that the united states has

spent embroiled in the war on terror as

it's been called in afghanistan

that we're now pulling out of

with what can generously be described as

disastrous consequences for the country

why is it that the united states

seems incapable of learning from other

countries mistakes

and so intent on blundering into

themselves is it arrogance is it pride

does the united states think that we can

somehow be successful or other countries

have had dismal failures what do you

think i do think i think it's a

combination of all three of those things

excuse me um i think that america

especially when it comes to our military

we are extremely confident i think that

we have the desire to make that

confidence known throughout the world

and i definitely think that this is a

symptom of that or a i guess a result of

that confidence and that that over

extension absolutely

yeah and it's it's funny you mention

that because when we were going into

or when we were coming out of i should

say world war ii we had that same level

of confidence that we could do anything

and then we wound up getting mired down

in in the korean conflict

you know where we were using the same

techniques the same tactics and so forth

and that led us into blundering into

vietnam where we thought we owned the

world

and we

really

got a lesson out of that and and by the

time we got out of vietnam in the s

there was a lot of lack of confidence in

our military

we wound up building it up through the

s and s and in the s we decided to

flex our muscle again in the middle east

so it seems to be kind of a recurring

theme for us

is there a way to to stop this cycle of

violence and waste

i mean people always say history repeats

itself right i don't wanna i'm repeating

myself by saying that i'm sure i've said

that on the show before but i think

some way to at least start is to

which we'll probably do here today is to

make those parallels between something

in the modern world like what's going on

in afghanistan with something like

vietnam and when you look at how similar

these things are there's lessons to be

learned from that of what not to do and

if we can

remember or years from now when we

might find ourselves in a conflict like

that again maybe we can

avoid you know getting stuck in the mud

again yeah and i'm

i've always been a fan of

it's better to learn lessons from other

people's mistakes than your own and

avoid making those mistakes

unfortunately our country doesn't seem

to look at it from that perspective

they

look at other people's mistakes and

somehow think that they can do it

differently the challenge

yeah i i guess that's a valid point yeah

i think that ties into that we were just

talking about it but the pride and the

arrogance i think it's we tend to see

ourselves as infallible especially when

it comes to the global stage like this

and i think that

we've proven at least twice now that we

are not infallible right well and we

also assume that the entire world should

live the way that we live

our policies and our politics and our

culture too our culture and our morals

and

it doesn't doesn't work that way

so

but let's talk about how we got here

where we are today so the united states

most recent involvement in afghanistan

was a product of the war on terror uh

which itself was a response to the

september th terrorist attacks on the

united states uh it is impossible to

address this subject without talking

about those intacts and ensuring that

the war on terror that followed uh for

many of us the events of september th

are burned into our memory uh not me i

was only one years old at the time but

for i'm sure many of our listening

audience that's that's true all the

documentaries that will be coming in

yeah

but for comparative purposes we need to

talk about some of the details of those

events uh so four california-bound jumbo

jets originating from three different

airports across the eastern united

states were hijacked

mid-flight by a total of al-qaida

terrorists

fifteen of the terrorists were citizens

of saudi arabia two are from the united

arab emirates emirates sorry one was

from lebanon one or some egypt that's

going to be important shortly it's worth

noting none of the terrorists originated

in any of the countries targeted in the

war on terror and i think that is

extremely important to remember

especially when we look at the course of

history that followed september th

attacks

american airlines flight and united

airlines flight targeted the twin

towers of the world trade center in

manhattan new york

american airlines flight hit the

pentagon united airlines flight

crashed in route to its intended target

which was supposed to be the white house

or another dc building when passengers

on the plane alerted by cell phone

of the other hijackings

uh were brave enough to step up and stop

the attackers and uh crash the plane

in total

lives were lost including the

hijackers more than are estimated

to have been injured

so that's another interesting

statistic just those numbers alone

so just shy of lies were lost in

that attack

and if we take a look back at the

numbers we threw out at the beginning

of the show here of the number of

american servicemen

so we had almost that number of

servicemen killed in afghanistan alone

we had more than that number almost

us contractors killed so

the death toll of americans who died in

afghanistan now almost doubles what the

death toll was during the attacks

on

does that

have any resonance with with you well i

think i think when we're looking at

these numbers they can get lost in the

weeds very easily i think personally

it's

when you look at these statistics it

kind of desensitizes you to the loss of

life in general i think if even one life

was lost that's a problem sure um

but i think

that it's

it's difficult to compare because the

the attacks were these people were

seemingly randomly just taken out you

know out of nowhere whereas we're

comparing the lives of soldiers that are

they know what they're stepping up for

and they know the the risk of what

they're

uh

volunteering is that the right word i

guess just signing up for in general

sure yeah they're enlistment yeah so

then they have that duty that they want

to protect i mean you look into the

civilians that were killed they also had

no idea what was going to happen to them

but it's it's difficult to even fathom

those numbers from you know to

yeah and you make a valid point you

know our military when you

when you enlist in the military there's

a certain assumption that there's a risk

you're taking on yourself

uh i think our government

should be

first and foremost looking to mitigate

that risk as much as possible

and i think for the most part they do we

don't i don't think we

light-heartedly put our troops in

danger um or or do it in situations

where

it can't be warranted or justified

but the number of dead that that

happened in afghanistan is still a

staggering number compared to

and our response you know that's

that was our response to

so on september

then president bush

uh george w bush

coined the phrase war on terror to

describe the united states response to

the terrorist attacks on the united

states

this includes the following

targeted strikes against al qaeda and

church insurgency in yemen

which the united states had been

involved with already since

american-led quote intervention in

afghanistan which started in

the iraq conflict which started in

on

do at best dubious

evidence of of

terroristic activity

as well as the pursuit of osama bin

laden into pakistan starting in

on may then president barack

obama announced that the global war on

terror was over

saying us military and intelligence

will not wage war against a tactic

but will instead focus on a group a

specific group of networks determined to

destroy the us

so that's great a war on terror is

over everybody can come home right

no

on december the obama

administration announced an end of the

combat role of the us led mission in

afghanistan

despite the fact that the us continued

to play a major role in the war on

afghanistan

i think we're given a little bit of lip

service there to try to get some votes

maybe

then in president trump

significantly expanded the military

presence in afghanistan

after

the war on terror was over and our

military mission in afghanistan was over

we're sending more troops back in

i'm thinking the messaging here that

we're getting really is kind of

inconsistent with the reality here what

are your thoughts

yeah definitely i think that the this

war on terror has been used as a

political uh tactic since it started

right so you had

president bush uh bush jr on the

american battleship with the

mission accomplished

there was that there's what we're

talking about here with obama

um it's always a

if we can end the war on terror right

that's a way to get bonus points with

the people and i think that that's

really all it is that's it's never

sincere right and i know we talk about

politicians and they make some insincere

claims all the time and i think that

this is just a prime example of that

yeah i think i think the problem that we

run into is every politician wants to be

known for winning a war but not fighting

a war

because when you fight a war it's dirty

lives are lost it costs a lot of money

there's a lot of carnage you get a lot

of bad press when bombs are going off

and civilians are dying and american

troops are dying

but when the war is over and i think

this was the kind of the product of the

of the gulf war in the s you know it

lasted so short a period of time

and was such a resounding victory for

the united states

that

george bush the first bush's presidency

skyrocketed in popularity after that

of course it didn't help him win

re-election but

everyone wanted to get that jump in

popularity so everybody wants to declare

this war is over

i don't think you can really do that in

the middle of a war if you still have

troops on the ground still fighting

still dying still you know bullets

flying

yeah and something and jump in here if

i'm

misspoken here but the war on terror

wasn't a declared war right so they

didn't have to go to congress like that

right that gives them a lot of options

for how they want to wage this war right

so the war on terror was literally just

a marketing term yeah

um that was also when we got our axis of

evil terminology as well and you know we

didn't because we didn't declare war on

a country which is what congress is

authorized to do

we pretty much had carte blanche to do

whatever you want to do whatever you

want yeah yeah

so that's kind of uh

talking about

why we got here sort of

uh we're going to take a little break

we're going to come back and we're going

to talk a little bit about the

withdrawal from afghanistan we'll be

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hello everyone welcome back to insights

into tomorrow uh we are talking about

the withdrawal from afghanistan uh in

the first segment we talked a little bit

about the past and now we're dealing

with more present topics

um so on april th president biden

announced the full us troop withdrawal

from afghanistan by september the th

this year which would be the th

anniversary of the september th

attacks

uh president joe biden said the war in

afghanistan was never meant to be

multi-generational as he officially

announced the drawdown of all remaining

us troops uh beginning may the

first and like we said concluding on

september the th

the president noted that only the

citizens of afghanistan have the right

and responsibility to lead their country

this announcement was made after

consulting with quote our allies and

partners with our military leaders and

intelligence personnel with our

diplomats and our development experts

with the congress and the vice president

as well as with president afghan

president ash raf ghani i'm probably

mispronouncing that and many other

around the world

the united states met its objective

years ago with the assassination of al

qaeda leader osama bin laden biden added

quote our reasons for staying have

become increasingly unclear

which

is a little too self-aware i think for

president but

uh it's worth noting the bin laden or

bin laden was killed during the

presidency of barack obama during which

biden was the vice president at the time

more than two years passed during the

obama administration after bin laden's

death in which the objectives in

afghanistan were not clarified uh nor

was they planned withdrawal put in place

biden notes in his remarks that over the

past years quote the terrorist threat

has become more dispersed metastasizing

around the globe

it could be argued that this was a

direct result of the us effort to wage a

conventional style war against nation

states when their true enemy deployed

asymmetric guerrilla warfare tactics

once like in vietnam

it's important to note that while

still in office donald trump negotiated

a deal with the taliban to withdraw us

military personnel the deal was done

without the participation of the current

afghan government and without their

consent it promised a us withdrawal by

may st this agreement was still in

effect when joe biden revised the

timeline to september the th and when

he started the pull-out in august so

it's more than this current

administration this is something that's

going back years

through multiple uh presidencies so just

a couple of things that are worth

pointing out here

why in god's name would anybody

pick september th for the date to pull

out of afghanistan

a conflict that was triggered

by a terrorist attack on september th

did nobody mention the bide that that

date was kind of important and you

probably didn't want to paint targets on

the backs of our soldiers for that i

could see the reason for going forward

for like patriotic reasons because

is off obviously like a very

hot button topic for you know to stir up

patriotism and fervor for that and it

being exactly years i could see him

wanting so you figure it would look

better for us to tuck tail and run on

the anniversary of september th well

yeah it's not a good look either way i

mean the optics there are terrible yeah

like who's advising him on these things

i mean someone clearly must have

mentioned to him that september th

isn't the best time so he pulled it back

to august st

which

doing it in a shorter period of time i

don't think was really

a good idea i think it really didn't

work out no clearly it didn't i would

have pushed that deadline a little bit

further forward

but the other thing that's interesting

here is

they note that there's only troops

in country right now to do this

evacuation

now this announcement came on april th

why

on

you know august st

are there still people even in country

because there are american civilians

that are still in country there was i

saw one article in which there was a

school trip first of all who the hell

goes to afghanistan on the school trip

like college or like high school or i

didn't read the details on it but either

way i'm thinking that's a terrible

senior trip at that point i mean you

need to talk to your your tour director

or something there but why are people

even in country at this point in time

when the united states has announced a

hard deadline for a pull-out

i couldn't tell you honestly it's maybe

bureaucratic reasons red tape people

can't get out

if they work with the embassy maybe

they're it's a visa issue getting out of

country um global travel restrictions

because the pandemic i don't know these

are i'm just spitballing and and and

probably the combination of all of those

but it just seems a little strange that

we knew we were pulling out and we

didn't do things to expedite that

withdrawal of civilians

and the fact that we've only got

troops in there who can't handle the

security

of this withdrawal itself they had a

general on the news just this week

and they asked him what he was going to

do to help get americans who aren't at

the airport out of the country

and he basically came out and said i

don't have the resources to extend my

operations outside the airport at this

time to do rescue missions

so basically they're screwed

you know it's every man for himself i

can't even imagine what it's like for

those people in the country it must be

terrifying it's like the end of the

world for them yeah i i agree i saw a

bunch of articles of of the people in

afghanistan preparing for the taliban

takeover and it's

it's difficult to watch you know these

people don't have a choice they're just

accepting that this is their new way of

life and it's

it's difficult for us to grasp

absolutely absolutely

uh the fact that we're still there

years after we've

achieved our goal of

i don't want to i mean we

assassinated

bin laden i mean that's really what we

did as a country we assassinated this

man

and we did that years ago and for

some reason we're still there and nobody

can explain why we're still there

so

something should have happened years

ago

that we shouldn't even be there on

biden's watch

so i'm kind of hesitant to blame biden

for everything

especially given the deal that that

trump had had cut basically i mean trump

cut a deal with terrorists

to hand the country over to him

and didn't bother to ask the afghans if

that was okay with them

i mean

i you know and i don't want to get too

political here but

i can't really expect the guy who's

disloyal to his own country and tries to

overthrow the government is going to be

loyal to an allied government either so

i'm not surprised by that

i'm surprised that the the united states

was still bound by that agreement after

he left office though yeah i definitely

think it's a for me personally it's

definitely a bipartisan issue and i i

know

definitely there's a

a great deal of fault on trump here but

i think there's a fault going back to

bush as well bush jr sure then obama

continuing it with

being determined to get bin laden and

now

again trump and then now biden i think

it it's a both parties have a

significant amount of fault in this yeah

four administrations two republican two

democrat

that are

directly responsible for this

catastrophe that's in happening in

afghanistan right now

so so let's look at the immediate

aftermath okay so it's estimated that as

many as americans at the time of

the writing of this which was a few days

old now

it's estimated that amer as many as

fifteen thousand americans remain in

afghanistan after the taliban's takeover

of the country

more than twenty thousand afghans who

ate at the united states in the past

twenty years

qualified for special immigrant visas

but also remain in the country after the

taliban takeover

the united states military

inc officers including

marine general frank mckenzie have

admitted lacking the resources to secure

the perimeter around kabul airport

he also emphasized like i said he did

not have the resources to venture into

the city

to evacuate anyone and provide safe

passage

the taliban indicated they would allow

foreigners access to the airport for

evacuations

but new accounts suggest this isn't a

policy that's being enforced with any

level of consistency yeah of course it's

not

right they're terrorists what do you

expect

um the biden administration initially

indicated there was no expectation of a

mini immediate takeover by the taliban

after the us pull out

which clearly wasn't the case i mean

and we'll talk about why later

but

whatever

idea biden had that the country was

going to stand was completely wiped out

within the first week of the pull-out

start

the us is also trained and equipped

more than afghan military

personnel who were expected to maintain

their territory and fend off the taliban

and clearly they didn't

so some questions have to be asked

so with an announcement on april th of

the firm deadline to pull out why were

there still so many americans in country

we asked that we don't have an answer

why were qualifying visas for the allied

afghans not pre-processed before the

withdrawal

you basically painted the target on all

their backs

why didn't you ensure that you can get

them out of the country first no answer

to that

why was an evacuation of the afghan

allies not started before the withdrawal

you knew they were going to be the

number one targets there's lists of them

already circulating circulating around

within the taliban who they want to

they're basically deathless

no answer to that

and finally the next question is why did

the afghan military fall so quickly and

let the taliban take over

that to me is probably the most

significant question here

and we'll talk a little bit more about

that but what are your thoughts on this

like

like give me your thoughts i i can't

even

formulate a question at this point in

time i'm so flabbergasted

just seems

awful like i don't know how to put it it

just seems like a really unfortunate

situation for those people and

there's nothing it just seems like no

one's coming to save them and that's

awful and like

like i don't know there's nothing you

can do you know like and you look at

some of the early images of the

evacuation and you've got hundreds of

people standing room only packed all of

these c-s

that are just astounding the pilots

of the the level people you have people

climbing on planes trying to hold on

falling to their deaths as these planes

were taking off that footage was i don't

know if our listeners have seen it but

the footage of the people falling off

the planes was

uh difficult to watch yeah i mean that's

how desperate these people are there's

pictures of people on the perimeter of

the airport handing their children off

the people over the wall

to at least try to get these infants out

of the country because they know they're

not going to be able to get out of the

country and it's impossible not to

compare to the

fall of saigon right oh the evacuation

people

you know helicopters going down people

scrambling it's what makes it not

impossible to talk about that

is because biden said you're not going

to have another saigon yeah and then

they did and you do yeah you know i mean

they're the images of the fallout saigon

where helicopters are landing on the

american embassy

to get the last few people out

you have

there were accounts enduring vietnam

that you had south vietnamese pilots

that were stealing aircraft evacuating

their neighborhood

one particular pilot actually flew his

entire family out to a ship that was

waiting in the talking gulf of tonkin

and unloaded them

hovering over the ship because the ship

the

helicopter could not land and then he

had the ditch in the sea and be

recovered

you're seeing that level of desperation

now only you don't have all those

outlets because you're in a landlocked

country yeah

and

the other countries surrounding

countries are closing their borders down

they're not letting refugees out

and you've got the taliban are not

allowing afghans out of the country at

this point

it's

a tragedy that should have been stopped

years ago should have never been

started years ago yes and i i said it

before it's like for these people it's

like the end of the world like there's

nothing they can do and it's for us in

the comfort of our own homes to watch

their worlds fall apart it's i don't

know it's

yeah i mean life was difficult before in

a war-torn country that which

afghanistan's been for the last what

years

but

to lose everything what little bit you

might have accumulated what roof you did

have over your head

and then to be hunted down by this

terroristic regime

that is trying to impose

a draconian system of law on you that

you might not adhere to believe in that

the rest of the world doesn't adhere to

it's it's a tragedy that

that's been long in the making but one

that that we've contributed to as a

country far too much

so we're going to take another quick

break we're going to come back and then

we'll talk about

what went wrong what are some of the

things that went wrong that

we can immediately playing monday

morning quarterback and talk about

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hello everybody welcome back to insights

into tomorrow battleground afghanistan

so taking a look at what might have gone

wrong or what did go wrong uh first

looking at the country and its citizens

countries have made the mistake of

trying nation building in afghanistan

for over a hundred years the afghans are

fiercely independent and incredibly

resilient people they're accustomed to

during hardships after so many years uh

this is mostly or somewhat due to the

harsh landscape makes unconventional

warfare nearly impossible with its

rugged mountains and lack of adequate

infrastructure outside of the cities a

lot like vietnam except without the

mountains ironic isn't it yeah it's just

cooler so looking at the united states

primarily the result of an overall lack

of guidance and strategy or objective to

our presence in afghanistan

uh incompetence or ignorance on the part

of the intelligence agencies um

as a side note to that there's evidence

that diplomats in country had warned the

administration and intelligence

establishments of the strong possibility

of a rapid afghan fall which were

ignored uh loss of interest in the

conflict on the part of the american

people

years on we thought we accomplished

our primary objectives uh with things

like the death of osama bin laden the

war was extremely expensive casualty

rates of any level were considered

unacceptable

the lack of or prevention of further

terrorist attacks put the original

purpose of the mission

largely out of people's minds

so

you you mentioned briefly the parallels

between this and vietnam

and i think a lot of it

there's too many to not

sort of

dwell on i guess here

uh so you have

the country and its citizens you know so

you look at the hardships that

the afghans have dealt with in what's

been a war-torn country for decades now

it's very similar to what

the vietnamese went through

they were never a

particularly prosperous or

decadent country either of them were

so

it's difficult for americans to realize

the hardships that they live with every

day

and

the thought that

that's something that would drive them

to a peaceful resolution of things is is

not even logical

would you agree yeah yeah absolutely i

think it's

it's such a different

uh

way of life that i don't even think we

can comprehend it yeah and

and you know i draw

i kind of draw a parallel to movies like

uh red dawn right

so you see a movie like red dawn where

there's this theoretical invasion of the

united states

and these high school kids

you know change their way of life and go

live in the in the mountains and

and you know my daddy taught me to hunt

so i'm gonna go shoot bad guys and stuff

like that

and it's a fantasy like

americans can't even

really empathize with that sort of

picture

but that's how the afghans have lived

you know they've lived off the land they

live in harsh environments

they live in

in clans of warring tribesmen

like it's not

like people look at a modern country

like the united states when you live

here and you think oh well you've got

police and you've got

low crime rate and oh oh my goodness the

the crime rate's soaring and we've had

people shot

well people shot here

is an evening in afghanistan sometimes

when there's a raid

and it's like

the the standards that we live by here

don't even compare to afghanistan and

for us to think we're going to walk in

there and impose our way of life on them

is

dangerously naive i think yeah and i

think that's really the thing right

these the people that live in these

places were i mean if they maybe not

content but they were

you know alive and they were undisturbed

i mean sure they had their own internal

conflicts but when we thrust them onto

the world stage and make them part of

our proxy wars things get a lot worse

for them in the long run almost of

the time yeah and and the one of the

problems we've run into is the the proxy

war that we have in afghanistan

there's like much like vietnam there's

no clear objective

you know in vietnam it was about numbers

the better numbers we could spend on the

new the news each evening

the more

domestic support you would get for the

fight

well

you weren't even getting that in

afghanistan you know you got to the

point where the only thing that you saw

in afghanistan was when americans were

killed

or maimed or whatever or you saw the

aftermath

of

soldiers that did their tours in

afghanistan and came back and had ptsd

or

were

crippled or

you know partially paralyzed because of

injury sustained over there

and it became a very graphic

representation

of our presence in afghanistan when

there was no corroborating reason given

by the government for us to be there

yeah and i think

you know still comparing these these two

things because you just can't help it

then it was a war on communism right and

communism was a national a global fear

really um for everyone that wasn't a

communist but now

it's the war on terror and i think we're

just subbing out these words these i

like a war on an idea right and it makes

it nebulous that you can do whatever you

want you don't have to make it a

declared war and i think that

i think the war on communism might have

had a little bit more attraction than

the war on terror does now because

terrorism

we can't we don't seem to have a way to

stop it right like with communism you

can sway the political leanings of a

country with terrorism there's not a

whole lot you can do

well and terrorism to a certain extent

is a self-fulfilling prophecy why are

there terrorists because they hate us

why do they hate us because we interfere

in their way of life

we impose our way of life in areas that

that don't want it

and as a result terrorists rise up

insurrections rise up they attack us

they fight you off they

they commit to these asymmetric wars

that

we've never learned how to fight you

know we've got special forces you've got

green berets and seals and they can go

in and do all this special stuff

but the united states as a military

cannot fight a guerrilla war they they

just

won morally they can't do it because

the bad guys do that right

the bad guys at the gorilla warfare guys

they're the ones that are going to go

kill civilians to deter people from

doing things

america can't do that we never could do

that we're just drunk well the problem

is we've done that yeah and whenever

that's done there's war crimes trials

about that

so you don't america doesn't want to be

that that group but if if you're not

going to play by the same rules as your

opponent

you're never going to

achieve victory

and if we're unwilling to play by those

rules which we should be unwilling to

play by those rules

then you can't engage in that kind of

warfare

i don't know i think there's a decent

argument to be made that drone strikes

are our version of guerrilla warfare

because we're taking i mean civilians

die by the hundreds in those and the

cost of those armaments you know i just

think it's it's different than the boots

on the ground approach where it's you

know instead it's a plane taking out you

know the amount of civilization civilian

casualties for one insurgent to be taken

out is you know and that's a that's a

valid point you know when people see

drone strikes it's almost like a video

game yeah you know you don't see

americans in their slaughtering women

and children

you see a shot from feet you see

a brief flash and then you see an

explosion

and it's almost a sanitizing way for us

to do terrorist bombings yeah

that's a very good point

so the next uh

thing that went wrong here is one that i

think can't be ignored

and that's the afghan military i mean

let's face it they collapsed like a

cheap lawn chair

maybe it was incompetence indifference

cowardice whatever it was that caused

the afghan armed forces to simply cave

we don't know what it was but given the

the rate at which cities were being

captured

i think you had a lot of

taliban sympathizers

the fact that the the afghan afghan

government

was relying on

warlords in outlying districts to get

their personal armies to defend the land

they're warlords

they're not

government officials

so there's a profit to be made by doing

what they do and

i would speculate that perhaps maybe

they were bought off by the taliban or

taliban promised them

riches or lands or or something but

something caused the afghan military to

just collapse

a lot of the bide administration's

planning for this withdrawal

was contingent upon the af the three

hundred thousand afghans that we trained

and equipped

to hold off the taliban

and it never happened it was it wasn't

it wasn't even attempted by the afghan

military

and

there's been no explanation as to why

so lack of a structured military

controlled by the government and

outlying regions was a problem with the

african military

like i said they were counting on

regional warlords to defend the

territory

there was a probably a fair amount of

taliban supporters already in the

military

and some of the warlords were probably

paid you know the government abandoned

the country

the president was quick to flee the

country to what he said quote unquote

avoid bloodshed which really was avoid

his own bloodshed

uh this signaled an overall lack of

effective leadership there were signs of

desperation early on as regional

capitals fell and it was

i mean at least in vietnam

the south vietnamese put up a fight and

they put up a hell of a fight in vietnam

they were overwhelmed

they were

um

probably not confident enough or

equipped enough to

to do what needed to be done but

once your air support dries up in most

of these situations you're going to lose

land to a larger force

so the afghan military is definitely to

blame

but joe biden has to take some of the

blame himself we've talked about the

fact that there's four administrations

to blame here

biden is one of them

he was certainly dealt a bad hand by the

deal trump struck with the taliban

his intelligence agencies failed to plan

for the contingency of the complete

collapse of the afghan military which

you would have thought you would have

had reinforcements or at least

airstrikes available to support them

that overall lack of air support

really killed any chance that the

afghans had of of supporting it it

almost struck me as the bay of pigs

invasion where

the united states trained up the cia

trained up these

cuban refugees to send them over to

uh cuba to invade

promised air support and then

none of it happened and they all were

captured

biden has consistently dropped the ball

when attempting to address these issues

getting by on the fact that he's not

donald trump just isn't cutting it

anymore at this point

he's failed to properly plan he's failed

to properly lead and he failed to

provide remedies to resolve the issue

now a lot of people at this point in

time are kind of jumping to conclusions

and

and calling for his resignation and i

think that's grossly premature

um

there have been a lot of mistakes made

by presidents over the years none of

which are impeachable

or

worth resigning over

i don't think the afghan withdrawal is

one that that we should be demanding as

resignation for him there was reports

that there were some

republicans that were preparing articles

of impeachment which

you know given the political theater we

went through during the trump

administration i'm not surprised by that

but you know biden definitely did not

was not doing his best during this what

do you think yeah i definitely agree um

i do think that no matter who would have

been president someone was gonna have to

bite this bullet eventually um if this

patrol was ever gonna actually happen i

don't think anybody no matter who was in

office would have

made this look like a victory um just

like in vietnam

was peace without their victory without

defeat or something like that or

whatever we called our push with honor

yeah that's what it was

so we can make ourselves feel better

about it but in this case there isn't

any of that um

i think he's it's a really really bad

look for him as a president

uh we talked a little bit about it

before the show but the image where he's

uh

up on the podium sort of for his moment

of silence moment of silence yeah i

understand what he was going for in

terms of wanting to

be compassionate and and you know those

things and i think that is important for

president to be but i think people his

opponents and even people that voted for

him are already looking at him and

seeing him as a

as weak and i think that this is

definitely contributing to that image

and i think obviously there's

lives being lost here but i think for

him as a president he's really got to

step up and and really look like a

leader that

the people that are still trapped in

afghanistan can

hope and trust that they will actually

receive some assistance

you're absolutely right and i can't help

but think

regardless of of who did the pull out

they were going to have a tragedy on

their hands

it's something that should have happened

after

bin laden was was

assassinated so you've had three

presidents dropped the ball so far on

this biden

bind really was the first one to say all

right enough is enough

let's let's get this done now so i have

to give him some credit for having

the

intestinal fortitude

to draw that line in the sand so i gave

him credit for that level of carriage

i ding him on the competency in in which

he did it there's some areas that need

to be worked on

but i can't help but think how would

donald trump have handled this

and and the first thing that comes to

mind was as soon as this became

a graphical issue for him an image issue

for him

he would have said or done something

else controversial to deflect away from

this and everyone will be talking about

that so you'd be talking about

immigration now or

he'd be

tear gassing protesters somewhere

and you wouldn't be thinking about this

anymore

and

trump was a master at that trump was a

master at taking bad press and then

distracting you away from it and that's

one area where biden is just not doing a

very good job with it no we're just sort

of wallowing in this yeah unfortunate

news

we're muddied down in the in this

quagmire of of news now

and the images keep flooding in and the

terrorist attacks are going to keep

happening at this point in time until we

get everyone out of there

i hate to say it but he could take a

page out of trump's book and learn how

to distract a little bit from this smoke

and mira did wonders for trump

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take a look at the future of afghanistan

and the united states so immediately

afghanistan will once again fall under

the oppressive regime of the taliban

there will be no democratic system of

government at all

the restoration of harsh sharia law

includes a body of religious rules to

guide day-to-day lives of muslims

a stringent code of punishment islamic

personal laws governing marriage

inheritance and child custody

a big emphasis on the

uh limited women's rights uh forced to

wear head-to-toe face covering garments

beatings if they step outside without a

male guardian

no schooling at all

public executions

whipping or stoning for the violating of

the law

there will also be economic sanctions

this is most likely going to be the next

step from the us in order to try to

resolve the issue

this will also ultimately lead to

hardship excuse me and deprivation for

the citizens of afghanistan ultimately

they'll be the ones that suffer

this might even hamper international

relief efforts and attempts to clean up

the country

uh after plus years of war

including the disposal of landmines

so yeah i mean you're really seeing a

country set up for

um

hardship more hardship than they've seen

in the past

from being more torn in from having an

oppressive government how do you think

that's going to affect the rest of the

world

i mean i think it's definitely

it's a bad look for the us for sure i

mean we're

and people talk about you know the us on

the world stage embarrassing ourselves

and we definitely are um

and i think that you know economics

actions are gonna maybe make us look

even worse because it's gonna be

ultimately the civilians that are gonna

be suffering from this

and i

it's just uh

we dropped the ball and it's there's not

all we can do yeah and you're you know

you're going to see that there's going

to be extenuating circumstances to the

pull-out you're going to see that the

only thing the united states is going to

be able to do is economic sanctions

um

we don't want to

stay mired up in this

you know and the other thing that you're

going to see come out of this is going

to be a haven for terrorists

excuse me again you're going to see

people because of us

trying to impose our will on another

country

there's more hate you're gonna i mean

you couldn't ask for a better recruiting

pitch than the united states

doing something like this yeah not to

mention the it's a win for the taliban

right so it's gonna embolden any group

and remotely like them right you know

the taliban have historically proven to

be supportive of terrorist organizations

and to a certain extent practice

terroristic activities themselves they

terrorize their own people

you're going to see the rise of this

this isis-k movement that's responsible

for these couple of bombings

now isis k is an extremist branch of the

islamic state of uh iraq and the levant

the k stands for

corazon which is a historical province

which once stretched across afghanistan

turkmenistan

pakistan and iran

they've launched multiple attacks on

refugees already at the airport and

claimed

credit for them

in kabul they killed over civilians

and service members which is what the

united states is reeling from right now

in retaliation to that within the last

hours the us launched drone strikes

again are

our sanctioned form of car bombs really

at this point in time

they lost drone strikes on the uh

nangahara province in afghanistan

targeting one of the suspected plans of

the attacks

and the taliban also have a history of

supporting al qaeda

the taliban already

sheltered osama bin laden during the

american search forum after the

attacks

and the afghan leaders the current

afghan leaders

have made recent statements in support

of bin laden raising questions of their

continued support for the terrorist

group

so they've pretty much signified the

fact that they're going to be

a home for terrorists anybody who wants

to learn how to build bombs and kill

people and

terrorize the united states

you can come to afghanistan the taliban

is going to help you

that's what we have to deal with now

yeah and this speaks to the damage to

america's reputation which i already

mentioned a little bit

this is going to weaken the united

states on the world stage our reputation

with our allies is going to suffer when

they see how poorly we treated our

afghani allies

we're creating yet another refugee

crisis that the rest of the world will

have to shoulder the burden of

speaking a refugee crisis some of those

refugees are arriving

in local military bases

where they're hopefully going to have

some peace

uh the afghan civil war it's hard to

imagine this not ending with a bloody

civil war among the afghans wouldn't be

the first or the last time

civil war is an opportunity to have a

proxy war which we already mentioned

between other less involved countries

uh ultimately the region's gonna

continue to be war-torn for years to

come

so again we're gonna end the show on a

positive note here and it's doom and

gloom again

for another region of the world

i think our

involvement in afghanistan is something

that

is going to cost us well beyond the

numbers that we've talked about here for

years to come

if you look just at the human toll here

on the americans that serve there the

the people that that live there that are

now displaced the people that are living

there now that are living under a

repressive regime

years later

nothing's changed

all that money spent all those lives

lost

all the bullets all the bombs

and you're literally back to where you

were years ago

was it worth it

no

it wasn't yeah uh for for just for my

closing thoughts i'd say if you know

you're gonna take a look at this

try not to get mired in the the teams of

it don't take sides it's there's fault

on in terms of politics fault on both

sides

uh and ultimately the people that are

losing are the people of afghanistan and

any other country that is caught in a

situation like this and the people that

are winning are the people making money

off of this uh follow the money right

people that are making these drones the

missiles for the drone strikes people

that are funding these armies and and

profiting off any resources that are

gathered in the process

i think that that is really the takeaway

from this is that

this is just the way that you know wars

are

going today you know the the the

profiteering off it and ultimately the

lower you know the less enfranchised

people

getting the hit

no doubt no doubt

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[SEGMENT 1: Disney Detective] (8-12 minutes)

  • Walt Disney’s Personal Plane Remains Abandoned at Disney World
  • https://insidethemagic.net/2021/08/walt-disney-plane-abandoned-ad1/?fbclid=IwAR003R4ZKuEtSPl1O8MaoYeiaBHGXqkhWhCsCUQElG6WK_SSF2vdxaoSnZ4
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    • With the majority of Walt Disney World always looking magical, it is hard to imagine that there are sections that may look a little abandoned.
      • With Disney World being the size of San Francisco, there is plenty of room to place things that may not be in use.
    • In the past, we have talked about the now abandoned airport that was active on property for a few years.
      • There has also been an entire water park, River Country, that was empty for many years, and before Disney’s Art of Animation was built, the space was home to what many Guests called a “ghost hotel” as it was abandoned during construction.
    • Now, it seems that Walt Disney’s personal airplane, the Grumman G-159 Gulfstream 1, which Walt used to travel between Burbank and Orlando, is looking rather unattended to as well.
      • Walt’s airplane currently sits in a service area north of Disney’s Animal Kingdom.
      • In a recent snapshot from photographer Bioreconstruct (@bioreconstruct), we can see that the cover on the plane is starting to come apart, which could be cause for water pooling in the aircraft casing.
      • Seems like part of the tail is exposed, and rain could be collecting inside if plastic is well-sealed below.
    • Hopefully, the exposed area of the covering has not caused any damage to the plane’s exterior.
      • It almost seems wrong not to have the plane in an area that Guests can look at!
    • Theme Park Architect (@ParkArchitect) responded to the Tweet with an interesting update on why the plane was moved and why it has not moved since.
      • It was repainted when we started the DHS expansion and at one point it was planned for relocation to Glendale but no one wanted to fund the shipping cost.
      • Disney optioned it to Florida air museums but no takers.
      • The inside is gutted. This is where it landed (pun intended).
  • Imagineer Rolly Crump on Museum of the Weird, the scariest Disneyland attraction ever envisioned
  • https://www.sfgate.com/disneyland/article/Imagineer-Rolly-Crump-on-Musuem-of-the-Weird-the-16400912.php?fbclid=IwAR3B6TdtHAH_pZgqjEhibKLvD1HXXV-5aRX2rbSsWy65U_HDTde_OEs36Bo
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    • Walt Disney always knew he wanted to have a spooky attraction in Disneyland, but beyond that, he didn’t know what he wanted for what would eventually become the Haunted Mansion.
      • In assembling the team tasked with conceiving it, he paired legendary Imagineer Yale Gracey, who pioneered many of the effects in the Pirates of the Caribbean ride, with a younger Imagineer, Rolly Crump, who was newer to the team but who had caught Disney’s attention with his innovations working in the animation studio.
        • “We weren’t really given too much direction on the project,” Crump — the last living original Haunted Mansion Imagineer, who later designed attractions like The Enchanted Tiki Room and parts of Epcot — wrote in his memoir “It’s Kind of a Cute Story.”
        • “At the time, they still didn’t really know what they wanted it to be,” Crump added in the book, “so they just kind of set us loose. … Walt just wanted us to be left alone, and he gave us the freedom to do whatever we wanted. We had our own little studio that we just filled with all sorts of crazy stuff.”
    • What the team got from Gracey and Crump was much scarier than expected.
      • So much, in fact, that the custodians at WED Enterprises (the department that would eventually become Walt Disney Imagineering, which creates new Disney attractions) refused to go into that studio to clean at night.
      • Crump, who has a reputation as a prankster, relayed the story in the Haunted Mansion episode of “Beyond the Attraction.”
        • “We got a call from personnel one day and they said, ‘The janitors would like to have you leave the lights on in that room,’” Crump said on the show.
        • “When you turn the lights out it was pretty spooky because a lot of stuff was lit with black light, which meant it glowed in the dark.
        • So Yale and I said, ‘If that’s the case we’ll do a little something there.’
        • We rigged the whole room.
        • We had the whole thing on a little timer and we triggered the whole thing to go off during the night.
        • We got a call from personnel the next day saying, ‘They’re never coming back. You’re going to have to clean up your room yourself.’”
        • “It was the happiest time of my life,” Crump, now 91, told SFGATE.
        • Not the prank in particular, but working directly with Walt Disney and having the creative freedom to do whatever he wanted, inspired by a man he (and many others) considered an inspiring visionary. “It was a great job,” he added. “You were thrilled to do what you were doing. I was, anyway.”
    • So in Crump’s view, he was doing exactly what Walt asked for when he designed elements for his envisioned Haunted Mansion that were more scary than anyone bargained for.
      • “It was Walt’s idea,” Crump said.
      • “He loved all that.
      • He loved to scare people.
      • He said, ‘People love being scared,’ and that one of the things we should be doing is to scare people.”
    • Not everyone agreed, though, and there was a significant amount of infighting among the ranking Imagineers about what the Haunted Mansion should be.
      • Some felt it should be jokey and fun, and some felt it should be spooky but not scary.
      • But following the assignment from the boss, the younger Crump wanted it to be bone-chilling.
    • The Imagineers who wanted a more family-friendly haunted house hated those ideas.
      • “So there was a little battle there,” Crump described.
      • When the day came to pitch Haunted Mansion ideas to Walt, the older guys put Crump’s “weird” work in the back, where Walt was unlikely to see it.
      • He did, though, and in Crump’s recollection in “Beyond the Attraction,” he said that Walt was upset with him because he didn’t get “an ounce of sleep” the night after he looked at all of those creepy creations.
        • “The next day, what happened was Walt came in and said, ‘OK, we’re going to do a Museum of the Weird, that’s where we’re going to use all that funny stuff you showed me yesterday,’”
        • “All he had to do was go home and spend some time with himself and he’d come up with everything.
        • He was a delight to work with.”
        • “You never felt like you worked for Walt,” he added.
        • “You felt like you worked with Walt because that’s the way he made you feel.
        • He encouraged your creativity.
        • He was part of the magic.
        • He was part of everything we did.”
    • The museum would have been attached to the Haunted Mansion, as a continuation of the creepy vibe of the ride.
      • Crump and Disney envisioned it as a walk-through you could explore after the ride was over, sort of like an interactive ride queue, but after the ride.
      • The closest thing today that exists to Museum of the Weird is the Yeti Museum that’s part of the Expedition Everest ride queue in Disney’s Animal Kingdom in Orlando, where there’s a cast of a purportedly real Yeti footprint.
    • All this concept work for Haunted Mansion and the Museum of the Weird was being done in the early 1960s.
      • The exterior of the ride was complete in 1963 — but when Disney signed the company up to be a major part of the 1964 World’s Fair in New York, work on those attractions stopped in favor of preparing four attractions for the fair.
      • Crump was moved to a project designing The Tower of the Four Winds, a moving sculpture that stood in front of It’s a Small World, where the ride debuted before being moved to the park.
        • (The World’s Fair also debuted Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln, a Magic Skyway that was never installed at the park and the Carousel of Progress, which is now at Walt Disney World. It was a crucial moment in Disneyland’s development and public exposure.)
    • Even though work stopped for years so the Imagineers could focus on the World’s Fair, Disney didn’t forget about the Haunted Mansion or the Museum of the Weird.
      • “We’re going to have man-eating plants,” Crump explained in a 1965 episode of “Walt Disney’s Wonderful World of Color,”, “and we’re going to have a coffin clock here that we’re working on right now.”
      • Even though most of it came from his imagination, Crump added that they’d be collecting from all over the world, “just the weirdest things we can find.”
      • “We’re also collecting real ghosts to bring in here,” Disney added.
    • But the museum met with a tragic end of its own.
      • In 1966, Walt Disney died of lung cancer.
      • Because Disney was the champion of a project that none of the other Imagineers liked — except Crump, of course — the powers that be killed the project, eliminating it from the final version of the Haunted Mansion, which opened in 1969.
        • “You have to understand something: People were not happy with it to begin with,” Crump told SFGATE. “Nobody wanted to do it. It was Walt’s idea to begin with.”
    • Some of Crump’s original ideas did end up being used in the Haunted Mansion, including sconces made of hands holding torches.
      • The organist who disappears and reappears is inspired by a disappearing skeleton playing an organ from his design.
      • The iconic wallpaper in the hallway scene, made of all those unblinking eyes staring out at passersby, was adapted from one of Rolly’s Museum of the Weird designs.
        • In the years that followed, “the museum has had a cult following,” Crump explained.
        • “We knew that it was popular.
        • If Walt had lived, we would have done it.”
    • To this day, the museum has a special place in Disney mythology.
      • Fans are fascinated by the macabre attraction, the scariest ever envisioned by Disney.
      • Marvel made a comic book, “Seekers of the Weird,” based on the museum. (Crump wrote the introduction, but wasn’t consulted on the project otherwise.)
    • Madame Zarkov, a Romani seer whom Crump designed into the museum on her traveling fortune teller’s wagon (that was also full of ghosts), was written into the Society of Explorers and Adventurers, the secret society from the Jungle Cruise.
      • There’s a reference to her on Big Thunder Mountain in Walt Disney World, where there’s a letter in the ride queue saying the S.E.A. consulted with Madame Zarkov about something supernatural happening inside the mine.
      • There’s another reference to her in Mystic Manor, Hong Kong Disneyland’s version of Haunted Mansion.
      • Wikipedia will tell you that the museum was envisioned to be a restaurant accompanying the Haunted Mansion the same way Blue Bayou is integrated into Pirates of the Caribbean. “Never,” Crump said when asked if that was ever a consideration. “Never.”
    • Right now, there’s an exhibit inside the Great Moments with Mr. Lincoln building on Main Street U.S.A. in Disneyland celebrating the 50th anniversary of the Haunted Mansion (which happened in 2019 but, you know, pandemic).
      • The exhibit has early concept artwork for the ride, including some of Crump’s original drawings, like the one that eventually became that eerie eyes wallpaper.

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[SEGMENT 2: Tales from the Edge of the Galaxy] (8-12 minutes)

  • We finally learned how Palpatine survived and returned in ‘Rise of Skywalker’
  • https://www.deseret.com/2021/8/22/22634067/star-wars-palpatine-survive-create-clones
  • https://bit.ly/3gvPe2y
    • “Star Wars: The Rise of Skywalker” came out about two years ago.
      • Since then, we’ve been wondering how Palpatine survived his dramatic death in “Return of the Jedi” only to return in “Rise of Skywalker.”
      • Now, thanks to a blog post on StarWars.com, we have an official explanation for how it happened.
    • How did Palpatine survive his death?
      • Palpatine was always worried about losing his power.
      • He created “The Contingency,” a plan that would help him reclaim the Empire if he were ever killed.
      • “The Contingency” started with Operation: Cinder, which included sentinel droids destroying Imperial and New Republic locations that held sensitive information.
      • When Palpatine died, his consciousness was transferred to a clone on the planet Exegol, where he had been previously studying immortality.
        • However, the body was too weak to hold his consciousness.
        • So they built more clones that could be a strong vessel for him.
    • This led to Snoke’s creation.
      • Snoke was made to lead the First Order, which would then work to bring Rey — Palpatine’s granddaughter — to Palpatine since she could act as a vessel to contain Palpatine’s consciousness.
      • This led to the climactic battle between Rey and Palpatine as seen in “The Rise of Skywalker.”
      • Palpatine fought his granddaughter to make sure he could use her body as a vessel.
      • Rey aligned with the Jedi, looking to stop Palpatine.
      • So, there you go.
      • That’s it.
      • That’s what happened with Palpatine.
    • It’s a little confusing and probably would have been hard to explain on screen.
      • At least we have an official explanation about the creation of Snoke and how Palpatine returned in “Rise of Skywalker.”
    • There has long been a debate about how Palpatine returned because “Rise of Skywalker” never really explained it.
      • In fact, According to reports, the “Rise of Skywalker” novelization explained that Emperor Palpatine was actually a clone and not a resurrected body.
    • Here’s an excerpt from the book:
      • “All the vials were of empty liquid save one, which was nearly depleted.
      • Kylo peered closer.
      • He’d seen this apparatus before, too, when he’d studied the Clone Wars as a boy.
      • The liquid flowing into the living nightmare before him was fighting a losing battle to sustain the Emperor’s putrid flesh.”
    • “Star Wars” actor Ian McDiarmid, who played Palpatine, said at Comic Con Brussels that he wasn’t a clone, too.
      • “Well, of course, there were all sorts of explanations for why I might return.
      • I think I can reveal something.
      • At one point, the script had the line in that first scene with Adam (Driver) where he says ‘You’re a clone’ and I said in that original script, which is no longer with us, ‘More than a clone, less than a man,’ which seemed to me to sum it up because we knew that the camera has already snaked past the clone tank in which there are various versions of Snoke that you probably noticed.”
    • Palpatine’s return was always in the books for the final Skywalker Saga film.
      • Director J.J. Abrams told Uproxx that there were always plans to bring back Emperor Palpatine during “The Rise of Skywalker.”
        • “Well, when you look at this as nine chapters of a story, perhaps the weirder thing would be if Palpatine didn’t return,” Abrams said.
        • “You just look at what he talks about, who he is, how important he is, what the story is — strangely, his absence entirely from the third trilogy would be conspicuous.”
  • Andor Star Wars Show Reportedly Wraps Filming
  • https://screenrant.com/star-wars-andor-show-filming-wrap-updates/
  • https://bit.ly/2WoBVu0
    • Disney+'s upcoming Star Wars spinoff show, Andor, has reportedly wrapped up filming.
      • The show will serve as a prequel to Gareth Edward's 2016 film Rogue One, and will follow the story of Cassian Andor (Diego Luna) during his early years with the Rebel Alliance.
      • Little is known about the show's plot or characters apart from a brief Andor sizzle reel shown late last year, which teased that the show would be a "spy thriller."
    • In-universe, Cassian's history is tragic.
      • As he reveals to Jyn Erso (Felicity Jones) in Rogue One, his struggle against the Empire was a lifelong one.
      • He first came into conflict with Palpatine's war machine during the Clone Wars at the age of 6, when the Empire was still referred to as the Galactic Republic.
      • Throughout the course of the film, Cassian's Machiavellian "the ends justify the means" philosophies paint a picture of a man that will fight to achieve peace at any cost.
      • With all these ingredients in place, Andor has potential to further flesh out one of the more compelling and morally gray characters from Rogue One.
    • A recent report from Star Wars scooper Bespin Bulletin claims that filming for Andor has wrapped.
      • Their sources claim that "various members of production having their own wrap parties and confirmed that filming had concluded."
      • They report:
        • After speaking with multiple sources I can confirm that Andor has finally wrapped.
        • Last week I checked in with my Pinewood Studios sources on the Andor production on August 18th and they were very much still busy filming which I first mentioned on my podcast, BOB The Podcast earlier this week.
        • On August 20th I checked in once again to learn that multiple cast members had wrapped, including some that had been filming for several months, but did not get confirmation that the production was finished or that leading man Diego Luna had concluded filming.
        • However over the weekend sources gave me the green light on Luna, referenced various members of production having their own wrap parties and confirmed that filming had concluded.
        • I’ve even been fortunate enough to see some sets being taken down.
    • Andor sets itself apart from Disney+'s other Star Wars spinoff shows in that it was filmed on-location, rather than in the VR Volume set used for The Book of Boba Fett, The Mandalorian and the upcoming Obi-Wan Kenobi series.
      • Because of the production's outdoor shoots, set leaks for Andor have been much more common than the other series as well.
      • It's clear from these pictures that the production designers for the show are taking many of their aesthetic cues from the design of Rogue One, with many trooper variants and Imperial aesthetics returning making the jump from film to show.
    • Compared to other upcoming Star Wars TV shows, hype and interest in Andor has seemingly been tepid at best.
      • This is despite Rogue One being a critical and commercial success for Lucasfilm.
      • That said, Cassian is considered one of the better characters in the movie thanks to his moral ambiguity painting the Rebellion in a darker light.
      • It's worth remembering The Bad Batch earned mixed reactions following its initial announcement, yet that show has more than justified its existence with arguably one of the strongest first seasons of Star Wars animation.
      • The Bad Batch is proof that no story is inherently bad as long as it succeeds in execution; hopefully Andor took some notes along the way.

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[SEGMENT 3: Entertainment News] (8-12 minutes)

  • Nirvana sued by the baby from Nevermind's album cover
  • https://www.bbc.com/news/entertainment-arts-58327844

  • https://bbc.in/3Df3mXL

    • Spencer Elden, the man who was photographed as a baby on the album cover for Nirvana's Nevermind, is suing the band alleging sexual exploitation.
      • The cover depicts Elden as a four-month-old in a swimming pool, grasping for a dollar bill that's being dangled in front of him on a fishing line.
      • Now 30, Elden says his parents never signed a release authorising the use of his image on the album.
      • He also alleges the nude image constitutes child pornography.
        • "The images exposed Spencer's intimate body part and lasciviously displayed Spencer's genitals from the time he was an infant to the present day," legal papers filed in California claim.
    • Non-sexualised photos of infants are generally not considered child pornography under US law.
      • However, Elden's lawyer, Robert Y. Lewis, argues that the inclusion of the dollar bill (which was superimposed after the photograph was taken) makes the minor seem "like a sex worker".
      • The legal case also alleges that Nirvana had promised to cover Elden's genitals with a sticker, but the agreement was not upheld.
      • Elden alleges his "true identity and legal name are forever tied to the commercial sexual exploitation he experienced as a minor which has been distributed and sold worldwide from the time he was a baby to the present day".
      • He claims he "has suffered and will continue to suffer lifelong damages" as a result of the artwork, including "extreme and permanent emotional distress" as well as "interference with his normal development and educational progress" and "medical and psychological treatment".
      • He is asking for damages of at least $150,000 from each of the 15 defendants, who include surviving band members Dave Grohl and Krist Novoselic; the managers of Kurt Cobain's estate; Cobain's former wife Courtney Love; and photographer Kirk Weddle.
      • Representatives for Nirvana and their record labels have yet to respond to the claims.
    • Elden has recreated the album cover several times as a teenager and adult - always wearing swimming trunks - to mark Nevermind's 10th, 20th and 25th anniversaries.
      • However, he has sometimes expressed ambivalence about the photoshoot.
      • In 2016, he told Time Magazine that he "got a little upset" about his notoriety as he grew older.
        • "I just woke up already being a part of this huge project," he said. "It's pretty difficult - you feel like you're famous for nothing.
        • "It's hard not to get upset when you hear how much money was involved," he continued. "[When] I go to a baseball game and think about it: 'Man, everybody at this baseball game has probably seen my little baby penis,' I feel like I got part of my human rights revoked."
    • In other interviews, he has been more upbeat about the image.
      • "It's always been a positive thing and opened doors for me," he told the Guardian six years ago.
      • "I'm 23 now and an artist, and this story gave me an opportunity to work with Shepard Fairey for five years, which was an awesome experience.
      • He is a huge music connoisseur: when he heard I was the Nirvana baby, he thought that was really cool."
    • In 2008, Spencer's father Rick recounted the photo shoot to US radio network NPR, saying he had been offered $200 to take part by Weddle, who was a family friend.
      • "We just had a big party at the pool, and no one had any idea what was going on!"
      • The family quickly forgot the photoshoot until, three months later, they saw the Nevermind album cover blown up on the wall of Tower Records in Los Angeles.
      • Two months after that, NPR's article said, "Geffen Records sent 1-year-old Spencer Elden a platinum album and a teddy bear".
      • The album, which included the hits Smells Like Teen Spirit, Come As You Are and Lithium, went on to sell 30 million copies around the world.

  • Drummer Charlie Watts, Rolling Stones backbone, dies at 80

  • https://apnews.com/article/rolling-stones-charlie-watts-died-c9551b21e2806b679bd0eeec0bb4ef2b
  • https://bit.ly/38dI3Ym
    • Charlie Watts, the self-effacing and unshakeable Rolling Stones drummer who helped anchor one of rock’s greatest rhythm sections and used his “day job” to support his enduring love of jazz, has died, according to his publicist.
    • He was 80.
      • Bernard Doherty said Tuesday that Watts “passed away peacefully in a London hospital earlier today surrounded by his family.”
      • “Charlie was a cherished husband, father and grandfather and also as a member of The Rolling Stones one of the greatest drummers of his generation,” Doherty said.
    • Watts had announced he would not tour with the Stones in 2021 because of an undefined health issue.
      • The quiet, elegantly dressed Watts was often ranked with Keith Moon, Ginger Baker and a handful of others as a premier rock drummer, respected worldwide for his muscular, swinging style as the Stones rose from their scruffy beginnings to international superstardom.
      • He joined the band early in 1963 and remained for nearly 60 years, ranked just behind Mick Jagger and Keith Richards as the group’s longest lasting and most essential member.
    • Watts stayed on, and largely held himself apart, through the drug abuse, creative clashes and ego wars that helped kill founding member Brian Jones, drove bassist Bill Wyman and Jones’ replacement Mick Taylor to quit and otherwise made being in the Stones a most exhausting job.
      • A classic Stones song like “Brown Sugar” and “Start Me Up” often began with a hard guitar riff from Richards, with Watts following closely behind, and Wyman, as the bassist liked to say, “fattening the sound.”
      • Watts’ speed, power and time keeping were never better showcased than during the concert documentary, “Shine a Light,” when director Martin Scorsese filmed “Jumpin’ Jack Flash” from where he drummed toward the back of the stage.
    • The Stones began, Watts said, “as white blokes from England playing Black American music” but quickly evolved their own distinctive sound.
      • Watts was a jazz drummer in his early years and never lost his affinity for the music he first loved, heading his own jazz band and taking on numerous other side projects.
    • Watts didn’t care for flashy solos or attention of any kind, but with Wyman and Richards forged some of rock’s deepest grooves on “Honky Tonk Women,” “Brown Sugar” and other songs.
      • The drummer adapted well to everything from the disco of “Miss You” to the jazzy “Can’t You Hear Me Knocking” and the dreamy ballad “Moonlight Mile.”
    • Jagger and Richards at times seemed to agree on little else besides their admiration of Watts, both as a man and a musician.
      • Richards called Watts “the key” and often joked that their affinity was so strong that on stage he’d sometimes try to rattle Watts by suddenly changing the beat — only to have Watts change it right back.
    • Watts found refuge from the rock life, marrying Shirley Ann Shepherd in 1964 and having a daughter, Seraphina, soon after. While other famous rock marriages crumbled, theirs held.
      • Jagger and Richards could only envy their bandmate’s indifference to stardom and relative contentment in his private life, which included happily tending horses on a rural estate in Devon, England.

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[SEGMENT 4: Insightful Picks of the Week] (8-12 minutes)

  • Michelle
    • Broadway beyond the Golden age
    • PBS
    • https://www.pbs.org/wnet/gperf/broadway-beyond-the-golden-age-about/12810/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwjo2JBhCRARIsAFG667VpkWqaS8OMB4HJfkUKoNu1PVMrIvwNB9Zk3aA5SsijFgD3VzYwDV4aAn1dEALw_wcB
    • https://to.pbs.org/2XY8X4E
      • Great Performances – Broadway: Beyond the Golden Age explores the world of Broadway from 1959 through the early 1980s as recounted by a diverse cast of Broadway stars who lived through it, creating a first-hand archive of personal backstage stories and memories. Written, directed and produced by the late filmmaker Rick McKay and hosted by two-time Tony Award nominee Jonathan Groff, the new documentary is the long-awaited sequel to McKay’s award-winning 2003 film Broadway: The Golden Age – By the Legends Who Were There. This follow-up to McKay’s acclaimed oral history of Broadway continues the saga into the 60s and 70s, spotlighting beloved classic Broadway shows including “Once Upon a Mattress,” “Bye Bye Birdie,” “Barefoot in the Park,” “Pippin,” “A Chorus Line,” “Ain’t Misbehavin’,” “Chicago” and “42nd Street.” Particular focus is placed on famed directors and choreographers Gower Champion, Bob Fosse, George Abbott and Michael Bennett with anecdotes from 1959’s “Once Upon A Mattress” through 1983 when “A Chorus Line” became the longest-running show in Broadway history. Featuring a galaxy of stars including Alec Baldwin, Carol Burnett, Glenn Close, André De Shields, Jane Fonda, Robert Goulet, Liza Minnelli, Chita Rivera, Dick Van Dyke, Ben Vereen and many more, the film also includes rare archival photos and never-before-seen footage both onstage and off.
  • Joe
    • Top Secret UFO Projects Declassified
    • https://www.netflix.com/browse?jbv=81018709
    • https://bit.ly/3zoIScY
      • Top Secret UFO Projects: Declassified, the six-episode series features interviews with experts on alien sightings and Project Blue Book, the U.S. Air Force’s investigation into UFOs that went on from the early 1950s to the late 1960s.
      • Produced in a documentary style the series covers reported alien events in thematic fashion from supposedly unknown details from Project Blue Book to Soviet Secrets.
      • Using news accounts, witness testimony, subject matter experts, leaked documentation and dramatic recreations the show attempts to depict various accounts of extraterrestrial encounters over the six part series.
      • Personally I consider myself an optimistic skeptic when it comes to UFOs’.
      • I don’t generally consume these types of programs to feed some search for truth or revelation.
      • Instead I enjoy picking out the cultural references, historical data and general state of mind of the individuals involved in these types of accounts.

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After Thoughts

  • Carnival of Collectables
  • Free Toy Show
  • http://www.toyshows.org/
  • https://bit.ly/36mGyWK
    • Saturday, September, 11th
    • Carnival of Collectables
    • 368 Cross Keys Rd, Sicklerville, N.J.
  • http://www.toyshows.org/
  • https://bit.ly/36mGyWK
  • Delaware Train Show
    • Saturday, Oct, 9th, 2021

  • Octoberfest Toy Show

    • Sunday, Oct, 10th,
      • Nur Shrine Center
      • 198 S. Dupont Hwy
      • New Castle, De. 19720

  • Retro Con

  • https://retrocons.com/2021/02/12/retro-con-2020-coming-september-26th-and-27th/

  • https://bit.ly/3eWEgBu

    • September 25-26
    • Great Philadelphia Expo Center, Oaks PA

  • MonsterMania Con

  • https://monstermania.net/

  • https://bit.ly/3xwXu8O

    • MONSTER-MANIA 47 SEPTEMBER 24 -26, 2021 HUNT VALLEY, MD
    • MONSTER-MANIA 48 OCTOBER 22 -24, 2021 OAKS, PA

  • Brick Fest

  • https://www.brickfestlive.com/2021-2022
  • https://bit.ly/3ACcPa9
    • Greater Philadelphia Expo Center
    • October 2nd - 3rd

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  • Wizard World Philadelphia

  • https://www.tixr.com/groups/wizardworld/events/wizard-world-philadelphia-2021-17168

  • https://bit.ly/3wT1C2M

    • November 12-13-14
    • Greater Philadelphia Expo Center, Oaks PA

  • Ocean City Comic Con

  • http://oceancitycomiccon.com/
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0:00:27.760,0:00:33.200 welcome to insights into entertainment

0:00:30.560,0:00:35.520 a podcast series taking a deeper look

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0:00:35.520,0:00:41.200 your hosts joseph and michelle whalen a

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0:00:50.800,0:00:56.160 welcome to insights and entertainment

0:00:53.680,0:00:58.320 this is episode 122.

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0:00:58.320,0:01:02.960 resurrections

0:01:00.000,0:01:05.360 i'm your host joseph whalen and my

0:01:02.960,0:01:06.560 creative and talented co-host michelle

0:01:05.360,0:01:08.799 whalen

0:01:06.560,0:01:11.200 hi everyone how you doing today dear

0:01:08.799,0:01:12.640 tired how are you tired you're always

0:01:11.200,0:01:15.200 tired when we do these in the evening

0:01:12.640,0:01:18.159 aren't you no i'm tired because i was in

0:01:15.200,0:01:22.159 the office today oh the evil office the

0:01:18.159,0:01:24.560 evil office that's the evil floom

0:01:22.159,0:01:26.640 i know it's it is rough being in the

0:01:24.560,0:01:28.320 office two days a week isn't it

0:01:26.640,0:01:29.759 my goodness

0:01:28.320,0:01:32.079 i don't know how the rest of the world

0:01:29.759,0:01:35.040 survives five days in the office

0:01:32.079,0:01:37.280 no wait i do because that's what i do

0:01:35.040,0:01:40.479 don't be bitter yeah just a little bit

0:01:37.280,0:01:42.079 yeah well anyway anyway i bet that's not

0:01:40.479,0:01:44.079 what we're talking about today is it

0:01:42.079,0:01:45.520 that is not what we're talking about

0:01:44.079,0:01:46.479 today

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0:01:46.479,0:01:51.840 in our disney detective walt disney's

0:01:48.960,0:01:53.360 personal plane remains abandoned at

0:01:51.840,0:01:55.759 disney world

0:01:53.360,0:01:59.119 and imagineer of raleigh crump we get

0:01:55.759,0:02:01.439 his thoughts on the museum of the weird

0:01:59.119,0:02:03.600 the scariest disneyland attraction ever

0:02:01.439,0:02:04.880 envisioned unfortunately not realized

0:02:03.600,0:02:06.320 though

0:02:04.880,0:02:07.759 then in our tales from the edge of the

0:02:06.320,0:02:09.759 galaxy

0:02:07.759,0:02:12.400 we finally learned how palpatine

0:02:09.759,0:02:14.800 survived and returned in rise of

0:02:12.400,0:02:15.920 skywalker what we don't figure out is

0:02:14.800,0:02:18.000 why

0:02:15.920,0:02:20.319 because i still am puzzled why they did

0:02:18.000,0:02:22.400 that but anyway

0:02:20.319,0:02:25.440 we also talk about uh

0:02:22.400,0:02:27.840 that uh andor the star wars show uh

0:02:25.440,0:02:30.480 about cassian andor who was featured in

0:02:27.840,0:02:32.080 rogue one uh reportedly has wrapped

0:02:30.480,0:02:33.920 fillings so hopefully we should be

0:02:32.080,0:02:36.000 seeing that soon

0:02:33.920,0:02:37.599 that's another one that i wonder why

0:02:36.000,0:02:39.680 they made that because i'm not really

0:02:37.599,0:02:40.879 sure a backstory was needed but hey you

0:02:39.680,0:02:42.560 know what that seems to be what we're

0:02:40.879,0:02:45.760 doing these days we kill off characters

0:02:42.560,0:02:45.760 and give them a backstory

0:02:46.000,0:02:48.879 and as always oh and for our

0:02:47.840,0:02:51.040 entertainment

0:02:48.879,0:02:53.120 we do have entertainment news this is an

0:02:51.040,0:02:54.800 entertainment podcast so for our

0:02:53.120,0:02:57.200 entertainment news we'll talk about

0:02:54.800,0:02:59.519 nirvana being sued by the baby from

0:02:57.200,0:03:01.760 never mind's album cover

0:02:59.519,0:03:04.879 and sadly drummer charlie watts of the

0:03:01.760,0:03:06.239 rolling stones dies at 80

0:03:04.879,0:03:08.319 and then we'll finish up with our

0:03:06.239,0:03:11.680 insightful picks of the week kind of an

0:03:08.319,0:03:13.920 oddball one i had this week yeah very

0:03:11.680,0:03:15.760 unusual for you yeah scraping the bottom

0:03:13.920,0:03:18.879 of the barrel right now i haven't been

0:03:15.760,0:03:20.720 watching all that much and then not

0:03:18.879,0:03:22.239 enough to steal from me no you didn't

0:03:20.720,0:03:23.120 give me anything good to steal from this

0:03:22.239,0:03:24.879 week

0:03:23.120,0:03:26.400 i've been milking all years the last

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0:03:26.400,0:03:30.799 so oh you know i admit that i'm an

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0:03:30.799,0:03:35.440 expand my horizons

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0:04:40.720,0:04:46.560 how walt disney's personal plane remains

0:04:43.919,0:04:48.400 abandoned at walt disney world

0:04:46.560,0:04:50.479 so with the majority of walt disney

0:04:48.400,0:04:52.400 world always looking magical it's

0:04:50.479,0:04:54.560 actually hard to imagine that there are

0:04:52.400,0:04:57.280 sections that may look a little

0:04:54.560,0:04:59.520 abandoned with walt disney world being

0:04:57.280,0:05:02.240 the size of san francisco there's plenty

0:04:59.520,0:05:03.840 of room to place things that might not

0:05:02.240,0:05:05.680 be unused

0:05:03.840,0:05:07.600 in the past we've talked

0:05:05.680,0:05:08.720 the the website has actually talked

0:05:07.600,0:05:11.440 about how

0:05:08.720,0:05:14.400 there's an abandoned airport that was

0:05:11.440,0:05:15.680 active on property for many years for a

0:05:14.400,0:05:17.520 few years

0:05:15.680,0:05:19.360 there have also been

0:05:17.520,0:05:20.479 you know as as most people know there's

0:05:19.360,0:05:23.600 a whole

0:05:20.479,0:05:26.800 water park river country that has been

0:05:23.600,0:05:29.199 empty for many years and before art of

0:05:26.800,0:05:32.000 disney uh was built the space was

0:05:29.199,0:05:35.360 actually known to many guests as the

0:05:32.000,0:05:37.280 ghost hotel uh and we actually have

0:05:35.360,0:05:38.560 plenty of pictures of that because when

0:05:37.280,0:05:39.360 we had stayed

0:05:38.560,0:05:40.400 at

0:05:39.360,0:05:41.759 um

0:05:40.400,0:05:45.280 pop century

0:05:41.759,0:05:47.039 we could see all of uh the abandonment

0:05:45.280,0:05:48.880 uh of that

0:05:47.039,0:05:50.840 so now it seems that walt disney's

0:05:48.880,0:05:54.160 personal airplane

0:05:50.840,0:05:56.720 um which he used to travel between

0:05:54.160,0:06:00.160 burbank and orlando is looking rather

0:05:56.720,0:06:02.639 unattended to as well so walt's airplane

0:06:00.160,0:06:05.360 currently sits in a service area north

0:06:02.639,0:06:09.360 of disney's animal kingdom in a recent

0:06:05.360,0:06:10.440 snapshot that was taken by photographer

0:06:09.360,0:06:12.240 bio

0:06:10.440,0:06:14.720 reconstruct

0:06:12.240,0:06:18.240 we see that the cover on the plane is

0:06:14.720,0:06:20.160 starting to come apart and this could be

0:06:18.240,0:06:23.680 cause for some water that might be

0:06:20.160,0:06:25.919 pooling in the aircraft's casing

0:06:23.680,0:06:28.800 it seems like also part of the tail is

0:06:25.919,0:06:30.880 exposed in the picture as well

0:06:28.800,0:06:33.759 so hopefully the exposed area of the

0:06:30.880,0:06:36.560 covering hasn't caused too much damage

0:06:33.759,0:06:37.919 to the plane's exterior

0:06:36.560,0:06:39.680 but it seems

0:06:37.919,0:06:42.720 that you know

0:06:39.680,0:06:45.120 you you can't really get to it from

0:06:42.720,0:06:47.919 most of the the guest areas

0:06:45.120,0:06:50.319 but the theme park architect had

0:06:47.919,0:06:52.720 responded to a tweet with an interesting

0:06:50.319,0:06:55.039 update on why the plane was moved and

0:06:52.720,0:06:58.080 why it has not been moved since

0:06:55.039,0:07:00.160 so they had said that it was repainted

0:06:58.080,0:07:03.039 when they started the disney hollywood

0:07:00.160,0:07:06.479 studios expansion and at one point it

0:07:03.039,0:07:08.479 was planned to be relocated to glendale

0:07:06.479,0:07:10.720 but nobody wanted to fund the shipping

0:07:08.479,0:07:12.400 cost so then disney

0:07:10.720,0:07:15.599 opted

0:07:12.400,0:07:16.720 for it to go to a florida air museum but

0:07:15.599,0:07:18.479 nobody

0:07:16.720,0:07:20.639 took them up on it

0:07:18.479,0:07:24.479 and the inside of the plane is actually

0:07:20.639,0:07:26.160 gutted and that's where the plane has

0:07:24.479,0:07:27.919 been since

0:07:26.160,0:07:30.160 so the interesting thing was this used

0:07:27.919,0:07:32.560 to be visible on the backlot tour right

0:07:30.160,0:07:34.560 so back in the day before

0:07:32.560,0:07:37.120 all the different incarnations of disney

0:07:34.560,0:07:40.240 hollywood studio when they actually had

0:07:37.120,0:07:42.160 the backlot studio tour yes this was

0:07:40.240,0:07:44.639 something that you could see

0:07:42.160,0:07:46.879 while you were going around uh the the

0:07:44.639,0:07:48.800 bone yard and it was uncovered too so

0:07:46.879,0:07:51.039 right you could see it in all of you see

0:07:48.800,0:07:53.520 it right they still it still had mickey

0:07:51.039,0:07:54.879 mouse on it i think it said

0:07:53.520,0:07:57.440 disney

0:07:54.879,0:08:00.160 on it um so

0:07:57.440,0:08:02.400 it it was very much obvious that it was

0:08:00.160,0:08:05.840 you know the disney plane right um so

0:08:02.400,0:08:07.360 then i guess when they started

0:08:05.840,0:08:09.280 you know making all the changes to

0:08:07.360,0:08:12.240 hollywood studios that's when they kind

0:08:09.280,0:08:14.879 of moved around did whatever and it just

0:08:12.240,0:08:17.039 never kind of found and i remember when

0:08:14.879,0:08:19.919 they were doing construction there were

0:08:17.039,0:08:21.039 there was uh news articles those

0:08:19.919,0:08:23.360 articles

0:08:21.039,0:08:25.280 where they were actually carting a plane

0:08:23.360,0:08:27.280 down the road

0:08:25.280,0:08:29.280 in disney you actually had film of that

0:08:27.280,0:08:31.120 okay okay it's kind of interesting yeah

0:08:29.280,0:08:33.360 yeah um but

0:08:31.120,0:08:35.120 i mean clearly it's a collector's item

0:08:33.360,0:08:36.959 at this point oh it's never gonna fly

0:08:35.120,0:08:38.640 again right you know but it would be

0:08:36.959,0:08:40.399 nice if they would clean it up and put

0:08:38.640,0:08:41.519 it someplace

0:08:40.399,0:08:44.399 where

0:08:41.519,0:08:46.000 you know guests could could see it even

0:08:44.399,0:08:48.480 yeah where would you put that

0:08:46.000,0:08:50.720 well they have a hundred square acres i

0:08:48.480,0:08:52.560 know but like they've got plenty of room

0:08:50.720,0:08:54.480 somewhere i don't know what theme

0:08:52.560,0:08:56.800 because everything is themed in disney

0:08:54.480,0:08:57.839 where would this actually fit you could

0:08:56.800,0:08:59.279 put it

0:08:57.839,0:09:02.880 in

0:08:59.279,0:09:05.920 disney springs at that one restaurant

0:09:02.880,0:09:09.440 that's the the plane the aviation the

0:09:05.920,0:09:10.640 aviation one go huh see or turn it into

0:09:09.440,0:09:12.320 a restaurant

0:09:10.640,0:09:14.320 yeah you could do that too

0:09:12.320,0:09:16.640 restaurant yeah kind of kind of kind of

0:09:14.320,0:09:18.320 snug yeah but see you could totally do

0:09:16.640,0:09:20.320 there you go see

0:09:18.320,0:09:23.040 listen to this podcast

0:09:20.320,0:09:24.640 we just gave you a perfect perfect plan

0:09:23.040,0:09:26.480 for you know

0:09:24.640,0:09:28.320 there you go what to do with it you know

0:09:26.480,0:09:31.680 where else you could probably put it you

0:09:28.320,0:09:34.080 could probably put it at vero beach

0:09:31.680,0:09:35.760 oh yeah cause they've got plenty of land

0:09:34.080,0:09:38.160 out there you got the airport out there

0:09:35.760,0:09:40.480 do you have the airport out there museum

0:09:38.160,0:09:42.640 out there so that might be a good place

0:09:40.480,0:09:44.640 at the airstrip out there at vera beach

0:09:42.640,0:09:45.600 yeah you can do that too

0:09:44.640,0:09:48.480 anyway

0:09:45.600,0:09:51.839 anyway so let's talk about the museum of

0:09:48.480,0:09:54.640 the weird so this article came from the

0:09:51.839,0:09:57.760 uh san francisco gate and it talked

0:09:54.640,0:09:58.640 about how imagineer rowley crump

0:09:57.760,0:10:00.800 um

0:09:58.640,0:10:02.959 had helped to create the museum of the

0:10:00.800,0:10:05.600 weird which was gonna be the scariest

0:10:02.959,0:10:08.720 disneyland attraction ever

0:10:05.600,0:10:10.560 and obviously never came to be so walt

0:10:08.720,0:10:13.040 disney always knew that he wanted to

0:10:10.560,0:10:15.120 have a spooky attraction at disneyland

0:10:13.040,0:10:18.480 but beyond that he didn't know what he

0:10:15.120,0:10:19.920 wanted um or what it would eventually or

0:10:18.480,0:10:22.560 that it would eventually become the

0:10:19.920,0:10:25.760 haunted mansion so in some

0:10:22.560,0:10:28.079 so in assembling the team tasked with

0:10:25.760,0:10:31.040 conveying it he paired legendary

0:10:28.079,0:10:32.959 imagineer yale gracie who had pioneered

0:10:31.040,0:10:35.839 many of the effects in pirates of the

0:10:32.959,0:10:38.800 caribbean with a younger imagineer roly

0:10:35.839,0:10:41.279 crump who was newer to the team but who

0:10:38.800,0:10:44.240 had caught disney's attention with his

0:10:41.279,0:10:47.279 innovations working in the animation

0:10:44.240,0:10:49.920 studio he had said we weren't really

0:10:47.279,0:10:52.079 given too much direction on the project

0:10:49.920,0:10:55.360 um crump who

0:10:52.079,0:10:57.360 was one of the who is one of the last

0:10:55.360,0:11:00.800 i'm sorry who is the last living

0:10:57.360,0:11:02.320 original haunted magic haunted mansion

0:11:00.800,0:11:03.680 imagineer

0:11:02.320,0:11:06.320 say that five ten

0:11:03.680,0:11:08.800 five times fast uh who then later

0:11:06.320,0:11:11.440 designed uh attractions like the

0:11:08.800,0:11:13.600 enchanted tiki room and parts of epcot

0:11:11.440,0:11:14.399 wrote in his memoirs it's kind of a cute

0:11:13.600,0:11:16.800 story

0:11:14.399,0:11:19.200 he said at the time they still really

0:11:16.800,0:11:21.200 didn't know what they wanted it to be he

0:11:19.200,0:11:24.560 also added in his book that they just

0:11:21.200,0:11:26.800 kind of set us loose walt just wanted us

0:11:24.560,0:11:29.200 to be left alone and gave us the freedom

0:11:26.800,0:11:31.279 to do whatever we wanted we had our own

0:11:29.200,0:11:33.680 little studio that we just filled with

0:11:31.279,0:11:36.880 all sorts of crazy stuff what is

0:11:33.680,0:11:39.680 interesting is that in the haunted

0:11:36.880,0:11:42.320 mansion episode of beyond the attraction

0:11:39.680,0:11:45.920 he goes and talks about this part of the

0:11:42.320,0:11:48.640 story where um they had you know

0:11:45.920,0:11:50.079 they had come up with much scarier

0:11:48.640,0:11:53.600 things for

0:11:50.079,0:11:56.320 the the attraction so much so that they

0:11:53.600,0:11:57.279 actually scared the custodians

0:11:56.320,0:11:59.760 at

0:11:57.279,0:12:02.399 wed enterprises

0:11:59.760,0:12:04.480 and that there were custodians that

0:12:02.399,0:12:06.320 refused to go into

0:12:04.480,0:12:08.079 their work area

0:12:06.320,0:12:11.120 at night because

0:12:08.079,0:12:14.320 things were were so scary um so they had

0:12:11.120,0:12:17.040 just a lot of fun creating it um

0:12:14.320,0:12:18.959 but then what ended up happening was

0:12:17.040,0:12:23.120 while they were planning all of this

0:12:18.959,0:12:23.120 then you had the

0:12:23.360,0:12:28.000 you had the world's fair the new york

0:12:25.279,0:12:30.320 world's fair come into play so then what

0:12:28.000,0:12:33.120 they ended up doing was transferring a

0:12:30.320,0:12:34.079 whole bunch of the imagineers

0:12:33.120,0:12:35.519 from

0:12:34.079,0:12:38.720 the park

0:12:35.519,0:12:39.760 attractions over to that to work on that

0:12:38.720,0:12:42.160 and then

0:12:39.760,0:12:43.680 after the world's fair was done then

0:12:42.160,0:12:46.639 they moved them back to the park

0:12:43.680,0:12:48.880 projects but then unfortunately

0:12:46.639,0:12:51.760 walt disney had passed away before the

0:12:48.880,0:12:53.760 project could actually come to fruition

0:12:51.760,0:12:55.600 so they had all these ideas because what

0:12:53.760,0:12:57.200 they wanted was they wanted to do an

0:12:55.600,0:12:59.920 attraction but then they wanted to do

0:12:57.200,0:13:01.120 this walk through museum so there were

0:12:59.920,0:13:03.360 all of these

0:13:01.120,0:13:06.079 great ideas that rowley crump had for

0:13:03.360,0:13:08.480 the museum part of it that unfortunately

0:13:06.079,0:13:10.959 after walt died

0:13:08.480,0:13:12.800 the next people that came in basically

0:13:10.959,0:13:13.920 said we need it to be something that's

0:13:12.800,0:13:16.000 family

0:13:13.920,0:13:18.240 friendly we don't want it to be

0:13:16.000,0:13:20.720 something that's so scary so

0:13:18.240,0:13:24.399 unfortunately a lot of

0:13:20.720,0:13:27.839 rowley crump's ideas kind of went to you

0:13:24.399,0:13:30.480 know the the wayside um

0:13:27.839,0:13:33.519 but there are some little aspects of the

0:13:30.480,0:13:36.480 haunted mansion that were inspirations

0:13:33.519,0:13:38.560 from rowley crump but what is nice about

0:13:36.480,0:13:40.560 it is that now

0:13:38.560,0:13:44.079 um you know there are so many haunted

0:13:40.560,0:13:46.800 mansion fans out there that

0:13:44.079,0:13:49.279 all of us i should say you know are

0:13:46.800,0:13:52.560 trying to find out as much information

0:13:49.279,0:13:55.519 about the history behind it and what's

0:13:52.560,0:13:58.160 really cool is that right now there's an

0:13:55.519,0:14:00.480 exhibit that is inside the great moments

0:13:58.160,0:14:03.279 with lincoln building on main street in

0:14:00.480,0:14:06.480 disneyland that is celebrating the 50th

0:14:03.279,0:14:09.360 anniversary of the haunted mansion

0:14:06.480,0:14:11.199 and they have a lot of the early concept

0:14:09.360,0:14:15.519 artwork of the ride including his

0:14:11.199,0:14:17.839 original drawings um so it's nice to see

0:14:15.519,0:14:19.120 that some of that stuff is still out

0:14:17.839,0:14:23.120 there for

0:14:19.120,0:14:25.279 uh fans to to find and look for yeah and

0:14:23.120,0:14:26.800 raleigh is one of our favorites

0:14:25.279,0:14:30.320 just because he's

0:14:26.800,0:14:31.680 he's so enthusiastic you go back to

0:14:30.320,0:14:33.839 that he's done

0:14:31.680,0:14:36.800 and and the work that he's done and he's

0:14:33.839,0:14:37.920 incredibly talented and it's stuff

0:14:36.800,0:14:40.720 that

0:14:37.920,0:14:42.720 you it's so original absolutely even to

0:14:40.720,0:14:45.600 this day it looks

0:14:42.720,0:14:46.639 like it could be modern stuff from today

0:14:45.600,0:14:49.120 not

0:14:46.639,0:14:51.360 50 or 60 years ago when he you know

0:14:49.120,0:14:53.279 first did some of uh right you see a

0:14:51.360,0:14:55.440 piece of his work and you immediately

0:14:53.279,0:14:58.079 recognize what it is right

0:14:55.440,0:15:00.079 um and his his

0:14:58.079,0:15:02.720 i don't know like the way he recalls his

0:15:00.079,0:15:05.600 stories of working with walt

0:15:02.720,0:15:08.160 and and just not that he idolized walt

0:15:05.600,0:15:09.920 but how much he loved his job because

0:15:08.160,0:15:10.800 you know in in one quote he even says

0:15:09.920,0:15:12.880 you know

0:15:10.800,0:15:14.800 it's not like you work for walt you

0:15:12.880,0:15:17.040 worked with wall

0:15:14.800,0:15:18.880 and and he always gets choked up when he

0:15:17.040,0:15:20.480 talks about yeah yeah he doesn't see how

0:15:18.880,0:15:23.519 much love he had for them

0:15:20.480,0:15:26.160 yeah even all these years later yeah

0:15:23.519,0:15:28.800 well and and the article goes on to talk

0:15:26.160,0:15:30.399 about the dedication he gets with his

0:15:28.800,0:15:31.279 main street

0:15:30.399,0:15:33.680 um

0:15:31.279,0:15:34.880 you know the legends windows right on

0:15:33.680,0:15:37.600 main street

0:15:34.880,0:15:39.519 where most legends get a window in one

0:15:37.600,0:15:41.440 of the shops on main street

0:15:39.519,0:15:44.000 and rolly got an entire building

0:15:41.440,0:15:46.639 dedicated to him with a nod to his work

0:15:44.000,0:15:49.519 with with walt as well

0:15:46.639,0:15:51.360 so it was uh kind of kind of a cool

0:15:49.519,0:15:53.040 kind of a cool story

0:15:51.360,0:15:55.519 and unfortunately because the other

0:15:53.040,0:15:57.920 imagineers were so against having a

0:15:55.519,0:16:00.240 scary haunted mansion right

0:15:57.920,0:16:01.839 when once walt passed away

0:16:00.240,0:16:04.959 they all kind of shelved the whole thing

0:16:01.839,0:16:06.399 in fact he talks in the in the episode

0:16:04.959,0:16:08.959 about an instance where they're

0:16:06.399,0:16:11.600 presenting haunted mansion stuff to walt

0:16:08.959,0:16:14.000 and they all the all the old timers all

0:16:11.600,0:16:15.600 their veteran guys put all the rollie

0:16:14.000,0:16:18.560 stump stuff

0:16:15.600,0:16:20.240 behind wall right to scare walt's now to

0:16:18.560,0:16:22.959 things oh that's right that he won't see

0:16:20.240,0:16:25.040 that's right that's right walt sees it

0:16:22.959,0:16:26.800 and he comes in the next morning and he

0:16:25.040,0:16:28.480 says i was up all night because of that

0:16:26.800,0:16:29.920 stuff and rolly gets all upset thinking

0:16:28.480,0:16:32.480 that right

0:16:29.920,0:16:35.279 but he was upset because of how

0:16:32.480,0:16:37.120 impactful right work was right right uh

0:16:35.279,0:16:40.000 so stories like that were were always

0:16:37.120,0:16:42.160 kind of cool together from them so yeah

0:16:40.000,0:16:43.600 anyway uh that was all we had for our

0:16:42.160,0:16:46.399 disney detective

0:16:43.600,0:16:48.480 we'll be right back with our

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0:18:03.480,0:18:06.630 [Applause]

0:18:08.400,0:18:14.080 go for tails from the edge of the galaxy

0:18:10.880,0:18:18.480 so our first story for our star wars

0:18:14.080,0:18:20.280 section comes uh from

0:18:18.480,0:18:22.880 i don't know i don't know what is that

0:18:20.280,0:18:25.200 deseret.com deseret.com sure we'll go

0:18:22.880,0:18:28.720 with that um so it talks about how we

0:18:25.200,0:18:30.640 finally learned how palpatine survived

0:18:28.720,0:18:33.440 and returned in

0:18:30.640,0:18:35.840 rise of skywalker so star wars rise of

0:18:33.440,0:18:37.600 skywalker came out about two years ago

0:18:35.840,0:18:39.760 and since then most people have been

0:18:37.600,0:18:42.720 wondering how the heck did palpatine

0:18:39.760,0:18:45.360 survive his dramatic death in return of

0:18:42.720,0:18:48.559 the jedi only to return in riza

0:18:45.360,0:18:51.760 skywalker so now thanks to a blog post

0:18:48.559,0:18:54.559 on starwars.com we have a i guess

0:18:51.760,0:18:56.960 official explanation of how it happened

0:18:54.559,0:18:59.039 so how did he survive his death

0:18:56.960,0:19:00.960 palpatine was worried about losing his

0:18:59.039,0:19:03.840 power so he can

0:19:00.960,0:19:05.919 he created the contingency

0:19:03.840,0:19:09.039 which was a plan that would help him

0:19:05.919,0:19:10.720 reclaim the empire if he was ever killed

0:19:09.039,0:19:13.600 so the contingency

0:19:10.720,0:19:16.160 started with operation cinder which

0:19:13.600,0:19:18.640 included sentinel droids droids

0:19:16.160,0:19:21.120 destroying imperial and new republic

0:19:18.640,0:19:24.480 locations that held sensitive

0:19:21.120,0:19:27.760 information so when palpatine died his

0:19:24.480,0:19:30.240 consciousness was transferred to a clone

0:19:27.760,0:19:33.280 on the planet exo

0:19:30.240,0:19:36.640 hexagonal hexagon uh where he had been

0:19:33.280,0:19:38.559 previously studying immortality however

0:19:36.640,0:19:41.520 the body was too weak to hold his

0:19:38.559,0:19:44.799 consciousness so they built more clones

0:19:41.520,0:19:47.760 that could be a stronger vessel for him

0:19:44.799,0:19:50.960 this is actually what they said

0:19:47.760,0:19:53.440 led to snoke's creation so snoke was

0:19:50.960,0:19:56.320 made to lead the first order which would

0:19:53.440,0:19:59.440 then work to bring rey who we found out

0:19:56.320,0:20:02.799 was palpatine's granddaughter

0:19:59.440,0:20:04.960 to palpatine since she could act out of

0:20:02.799,0:20:08.400 as a vessel to contain

0:20:04.960,0:20:11.440 palpatine's consciousness so this led to

0:20:08.400,0:20:14.720 the cinematic battle between rey and

0:20:11.440,0:20:16.640 palpatine as seen in rise of skywalker

0:20:14.720,0:20:19.360 palpatine fought his granddaughter to

0:20:16.640,0:20:22.240 make sure that he could use her body as

0:20:19.360,0:20:25.200 a vessel but then rey aligned with all

0:20:22.240,0:20:26.320 the jedi looking to stop him and there

0:20:25.200,0:20:28.240 you go

0:20:26.320,0:20:31.679 so

0:20:28.240,0:20:34.240 what happened so it's a little confusing

0:20:31.679,0:20:36.159 and kind of hard to explain and

0:20:34.240,0:20:38.799 obviously they really didn't

0:20:36.159,0:20:41.600 explain any of that in the movie so

0:20:38.799,0:20:44.080 that's why most people were going huh

0:20:41.600,0:20:45.559 but it seems that in

0:20:44.080,0:20:48.559 some of the

0:20:45.559,0:20:50.400 novelizations of rise of skywalker they

0:20:48.559,0:20:53.919 talk a little bit more about it how

0:20:50.400,0:20:56.559 there were these uh vials with liquid

0:20:53.919,0:20:59.600 and that you know one was kind of

0:20:56.559,0:21:03.200 completely empty and kylo ren kind of

0:20:59.600,0:21:06.400 looked at it and he's you know studying

0:21:03.200,0:21:08.799 you know that that he had studied um

0:21:06.400,0:21:10.799 the clone wars and that the liquid

0:21:08.799,0:21:13.760 flowing into this living nightmare

0:21:10.799,0:21:15.840 before him was fighting a losing battle

0:21:13.760,0:21:18.960 and that it was the you know the

0:21:15.840,0:21:20.880 emperor's you know flesh that was trying

0:21:18.960,0:21:23.280 to be created so in the book i guess

0:21:20.880,0:21:25.120 they actually went a little bit more

0:21:23.280,0:21:28.960 into it they just didn't do it in the

0:21:25.120,0:21:31.280 movies um so it seems that palpatine's

0:21:28.960,0:21:33.360 return was kind of always

0:21:31.280,0:21:36.799 in the books for the final star wars

0:21:33.360,0:21:38.320 saga film uh director jj abrams had

0:21:36.799,0:21:41.039 actually said that there were always

0:21:38.320,0:21:43.840 plans to bring back emperor palpatine

0:21:41.039,0:21:46.080 during rise of skywalker

0:21:43.840,0:21:47.919 and that when you look at this as nine

0:21:46.080,0:21:49.840 chapters of the story perhaps the

0:21:47.919,0:21:52.159 weirder thing would be that palpatine

0:21:49.840,0:21:55.039 didn't return or the weirder thing would

0:21:52.159,0:21:58.320 be what if he didn't even return um

0:21:55.039,0:22:00.720 and abrams had said just look uh at what

0:21:58.320,0:22:03.200 he talks about who he is how important

0:22:00.720,0:22:05.520 he is what his story is train strangely

0:22:03.200,0:22:09.679 his absence entirely from the third

0:22:05.520,0:22:09.679 trilogy would be conspicuous

0:22:10.240,0:22:13.760 from the first movie of the trilogy was

0:22:12.080,0:22:15.600 conspicuous

0:22:13.760,0:22:18.159 yeah so i think if we didn't see

0:22:15.600,0:22:19.919 palpatine again it would have been okay

0:22:18.159,0:22:22.720 i i don't think they really needed to

0:22:19.919,0:22:26.159 bring him back but so normally i take my

0:22:22.720,0:22:28.720 my time on the soapbox here to to bust

0:22:26.159,0:22:30.559 disney for being disney okay in this

0:22:28.720,0:22:32.720 case here i'm gonna bust disney for

0:22:30.559,0:22:33.760 trying to be star wars

0:22:32.720,0:22:35.120 so okay

0:22:33.760,0:22:37.039 there's some

0:22:35.120,0:22:38.080 so if you look at the original trilogy

0:22:37.039,0:22:41.280 okay

0:22:38.080,0:22:44.159 there's history between a new hope an

0:22:41.280,0:22:45.280 empire strikes back and there's history

0:22:44.159,0:22:46.960 between

0:22:45.280,0:22:48.080 empire strikes back and returning the

0:22:46.960,0:22:50.400 jedi

0:22:48.080,0:22:52.559 now none of that history is played out

0:22:50.400,0:22:55.280 except for references

0:22:52.559,0:22:57.039 for instance there's this one particular

0:22:55.280,0:22:58.400 reference where han solo says that he

0:22:57.039,0:23:00.159 has to leave in the beginning of the

0:22:58.400,0:23:02.000 movie when they're on hoth

0:23:00.159,0:23:03.919 and he makes reference to the bounty

0:23:02.000,0:23:05.840 hunter on ord mantel

0:23:03.919,0:23:08.159 well nobody knows what that story was if

0:23:05.840,0:23:10.080 he didn't read the novels however when

0:23:08.159,0:23:11.840 you talk about having a death mark on

0:23:10.080,0:23:13.440 you and you talk about a bounty hunter

0:23:11.840,0:23:14.480 that you've ran into on some other

0:23:13.440,0:23:16.159 planet

0:23:14.480,0:23:19.280 you can put two and two together and you

0:23:16.159,0:23:21.440 don't need to read that backstory

0:23:19.280,0:23:23.280 with this what happened was is they

0:23:21.440,0:23:26.400 wanted to have all that backstory in

0:23:23.280,0:23:29.039 place the problem was they dribbled it

0:23:26.400,0:23:31.440 out over multiple types of sources

0:23:29.039,0:23:34.240 so they talk about project cinder well

0:23:31.440,0:23:36.559 project cinder and these sentinel droids

0:23:34.240,0:23:38.960 happen to come from a storyline

0:23:36.559,0:23:40.400 from battlefront 2.

0:23:38.960,0:23:42.000 well how many people are watching the

0:23:40.400,0:23:44.159 movie you're playing the game right not

0:23:42.000,0:23:46.960 many right then you talk about the

0:23:44.159,0:23:49.039 clones and you talk about palpatine's

0:23:46.960,0:23:52.799 you know trying to get in well the the

0:23:49.039,0:23:55.120 whole idea of this contingency plan

0:23:52.799,0:23:57.279 played out in the novels so who read all

0:23:55.120,0:23:59.039 the novels that watched a movie a small

0:23:57.279,0:24:01.919 percentage of the people

0:23:59.039,0:24:04.080 so what happens is you get to the movie

0:24:01.919,0:24:05.919 now disney assumes well everybody knows

0:24:04.080,0:24:08.480 the story now so we don't need to make

0:24:05.919,0:24:10.640 those clear-cut references to that

0:24:08.480,0:24:13.039 history that we just built

0:24:10.640,0:24:14.720 let's just continue telling the story

0:24:13.039,0:24:16.559 and you tell the story and it's

0:24:14.720,0:24:18.000 fragmented and it's disjointed and

0:24:16.559,0:24:19.919 you're jumping all over the place and

0:24:18.000,0:24:22.000 you have all these pieces that don't fit

0:24:19.919,0:24:23.360 together because you told your story

0:24:22.000,0:24:24.960 somewhere else and you didn't even make

0:24:23.360,0:24:26.480 reference to it here

0:24:24.960,0:24:28.559 you just assumed everybody walked into

0:24:26.480,0:24:30.159 this movie and knew what it was right

0:24:28.559,0:24:32.960 and it turned into be an absolute

0:24:30.159,0:24:34.880 disaster of storytelling

0:24:32.960,0:24:36.480 where you didn't need to do all that

0:24:34.880,0:24:37.840 detail you didn't need to do all that

0:24:36.480,0:24:40.799 story behind it all you have to do is

0:24:37.840,0:24:43.520 have references i'm almost okay having

0:24:40.799,0:24:45.279 palpatine be the bad guy

0:24:43.520,0:24:47.760 and i'll tell you why

0:24:45.279,0:24:49.039 why because in

0:24:47.760,0:24:52.640 the

0:24:49.039,0:24:55.120 star wars mmo star wars the old republic

0:24:52.640,0:24:56.720 there is an occurrence of an emperor and

0:24:55.120,0:24:58.960 that emperor

0:24:56.720,0:25:01.760 happens to use various types of

0:24:58.960,0:25:03.840 technology and sith rituals and and the

0:25:01.760,0:25:06.880 force and all this stuff

0:25:03.840,0:25:08.400 to extend his life hundreds and

0:25:06.880,0:25:10.799 thousands of years

0:25:08.400,0:25:13.360 he's resurrected himself he's renamed

0:25:10.799,0:25:15.520 himself he's reinvented himself over and

0:25:13.360,0:25:17.840 over on at least three occasions within

0:25:15.520,0:25:19.200 that storyline alone okay

0:25:17.840,0:25:20.880 now

0:25:19.200,0:25:23.840 for those who do

0:25:20.880,0:25:26.320 keep up on the expanded universe stuff

0:25:23.840,0:25:28.559 there's this concept of these beings

0:25:26.320,0:25:30.799 called celestials

0:25:28.559,0:25:32.720 not celestials from marvel universe

0:25:30.799,0:25:35.120 although it'd be a cool tie-in to that

0:25:32.720,0:25:36.400 and be a great gateway to that hint hint

0:25:35.120,0:25:38.799 disney

0:25:36.400,0:25:40.320 so you have these beings that came

0:25:38.799,0:25:42.559 before

0:25:40.320,0:25:44.480 all the other beings in the universe

0:25:42.559,0:25:46.240 in the galaxy and then they evolved and

0:25:44.480,0:25:49.919 they moved on

0:25:46.240,0:25:52.720 well this storyline is leaning in

0:25:49.919,0:25:56.240 the old republic that this particular

0:25:52.720,0:25:58.159 emperor happened to be the entity or the

0:25:56.240,0:25:59.919 essence of one of these

0:25:58.159,0:26:02.400 celestials

0:25:59.919,0:26:04.320 so it would fit perfectly in that this

0:26:02.400,0:26:06.240 guy somehow gets defeated in the old

0:26:04.320,0:26:07.039 republic goes dormant or something like

0:26:06.240,0:26:09.360 that

0:26:07.039,0:26:11.840 and then turns out that it's palpatine

0:26:09.360,0:26:13.679 who is that same emperor who's trying to

0:26:11.840,0:26:15.440 resurrect everything again

0:26:13.679,0:26:17.520 so okay they

0:26:15.440,0:26:20.080 didn't want the storyline from the old

0:26:17.520,0:26:22.960 republic to be canon but that story line

0:26:20.080,0:26:25.360 would have fed perfectly into the sequel

0:26:22.960,0:26:27.360 trilogy to explain

0:26:25.360,0:26:29.360 how this guy who was thrown down this

0:26:27.360,0:26:32.000 pit on the space station that blew up

0:26:29.360,0:26:34.080 and fell out of orbit is still alive

0:26:32.000,0:26:37.120 gotcha because apparently he can do

0:26:34.080,0:26:39.440 transfer essence across the galaxy

0:26:37.120,0:26:41.120 that's a little hard to believe

0:26:39.440,0:26:42.720 now i could understand if you transfer

0:26:41.120,0:26:44.880 your essence to

0:26:42.720,0:26:46.640 rey who's right in front of you

0:26:44.880,0:26:48.720 but apparently he couldn't even do that

0:26:46.640,0:26:49.840 when he was able to transfer to another

0:26:48.720,0:26:52.640 body that was all the way across the

0:26:49.840,0:26:53.840 galaxy right right so it's hard to

0:26:52.640,0:26:56.080 believe the way that they brought them

0:26:53.840,0:26:57.679 back but had they done it right i would

0:26:56.080,0:26:59.120 have bought it

0:26:57.679,0:27:00.400 the fact that you have rey as his

0:26:59.120,0:27:02.640 granddaughter

0:27:00.400,0:27:03.840 makes no sense whatsoever you didn't

0:27:02.640,0:27:04.799 need him

0:27:03.840,0:27:06.640 because

0:27:04.799,0:27:08.400 anakin was supposed to be that vessel

0:27:06.640,0:27:09.520 that he was supposed to transfer himself

0:27:08.400,0:27:11.600 into

0:27:09.520,0:27:14.240 because the one book that is

0:27:11.600,0:27:17.360 canon the sidious book talks about

0:27:14.240,0:27:21.360 sidious and his former master plagueis

0:27:17.360,0:27:22.880 who he learned how to preserve life from

0:27:21.360,0:27:26.240 they got together performed a sith

0:27:22.880,0:27:29.360 ritual and basically conceived anakin

0:27:26.240,0:27:32.000 from the force so he was that's why his

0:27:29.360,0:27:34.559 okay goofy midichlorians were so high

0:27:32.000,0:27:36.000 because he was pure force he was

0:27:34.559,0:27:38.720 supposed to be the vessel that they were

0:27:36.000,0:27:40.559 going to pour themselves into

0:27:38.720,0:27:42.799 so when he gets killed

0:27:40.559,0:27:44.960 he's not there anymore so now they

0:27:42.799,0:27:47.279 invent a granddaughter that he somehow

0:27:44.960,0:27:50.320 had at some point in time a son

0:27:47.279,0:27:52.240 somewhere and that son had a kid with

0:27:50.320,0:27:54.159 someone else and the sun's not pure

0:27:52.240,0:27:55.120 force and the wife wasn't pure force and

0:27:54.159,0:27:57.039 the

0:27:55.120,0:27:58.240 kid's less pure for like it makes no

0:27:57.039,0:28:00.000 sense

0:27:58.240,0:28:02.640 it just it doesn't work what they tried

0:28:00.000,0:28:04.240 to do with it okay so but the fact that

0:28:02.640,0:28:05.200 they just decided to resurrect them

0:28:04.240,0:28:06.720 because they couldn't come up with a

0:28:05.200,0:28:08.559 better guy

0:28:06.720,0:28:10.880 and the fact that they wasted their time

0:28:08.559,0:28:12.559 making snoke out in two movies to be the

0:28:10.880,0:28:13.840 ultimate bad guy

0:28:12.559,0:28:16.399 and then they just offed them because

0:28:13.840,0:28:18.240 they were done with the right right

0:28:16.399,0:28:20.480 that was that was almost as bad as i'm

0:28:18.240,0:28:22.480 killing off darth maul in the first

0:28:20.480,0:28:23.840 prequel trilogy movie you're still

0:28:22.480,0:28:25.200 bitter about that

0:28:23.840,0:28:26.880 well and then they brought them back so

0:28:25.200,0:28:29.200 it's still really bad i mean they cut

0:28:26.880,0:28:31.360 more than half they cut snoke in half

0:28:29.200,0:28:33.120 snoke really dead no probably not he's

0:28:31.360,0:28:34.559 in a jar somewhere yeah he'll be back in

0:28:33.120,0:28:38.240 an animated version somewhere with

0:28:34.559,0:28:41.520 spider legs with spider legs anyway oh

0:28:38.240,0:28:43.120 that's awesome that's my soapbox okay so

0:28:41.520,0:28:45.520 let's talk about something that's going

0:28:43.120,0:28:48.960 to get me less worked up but equally as

0:28:45.520,0:28:52.159 annoyed okay so from screenrant.com it

0:28:48.960,0:28:55.279 seems that andor the star wars show has

0:28:52.159,0:28:58.159 reportedly wrapped filming so disney

0:28:55.279,0:29:00.720 plus upcoming star wars spin-off show

0:28:58.159,0:29:03.640 andorr has reportedly wrapped filming

0:29:00.720,0:29:06.960 the show will serve as a prequel to the

0:29:03.640,0:29:09.600 2016 film rogue one and will follow the

0:29:06.960,0:29:12.799 story of cassian andor

0:29:09.600,0:29:14.880 during his early years in the rebellion

0:29:12.799,0:29:16.960 alliance little known is about the

0:29:14.880,0:29:18.080 show's plot or characters apart from a

0:29:16.960,0:29:20.640 brief

0:29:18.080,0:29:23.200 sizzle reel that was shown late last

0:29:20.640,0:29:26.559 year which teased that the show would be

0:29:23.200,0:29:29.120 kind of a spy thriller in universe

0:29:26.559,0:29:30.399 cassian's history is obviously kind of

0:29:29.120,0:29:32.080 tragic

0:29:30.399,0:29:34.960 as he reveals

0:29:32.080,0:29:38.000 to jyn in rogue one his struggle against

0:29:34.960,0:29:40.000 the empire was a lifelong one

0:29:38.000,0:29:42.799 he first came into conflict with

0:29:40.000,0:29:45.200 palpatine's war machine during the clone

0:29:42.799,0:29:47.760 wars when he was just six years old when

0:29:45.200,0:29:50.159 the empire was still referred to as the

0:29:47.760,0:29:53.679 galactic republic throughout the course

0:29:50.159,0:29:56.159 of the film his uh machiavelli

0:29:53.679,0:29:58.640 the ends justify the means philosophy

0:29:56.159,0:30:01.919 paint a picture of a man that will fight

0:29:58.640,0:30:04.640 to achieve peace at any cost with all of

0:30:01.919,0:30:06.799 these ingredients in place and or has

0:30:04.640,0:30:09.279 potential to further

0:30:06.799,0:30:12.480 flush out one of the more compelling and

0:30:09.279,0:30:15.600 morally gray characters from rogue one a

0:30:12.480,0:30:18.640 recent report from star wars scooper

0:30:15.600,0:30:20.640 bespin bullet claims that filming for

0:30:18.640,0:30:22.799 the show has wrapped

0:30:20.640,0:30:25.200 it seems that there were various members

0:30:22.799,0:30:28.080 of production who were having their own

0:30:25.200,0:30:30.399 wrap parties and confirming that filming

0:30:28.080,0:30:33.360 had concluded um

0:30:30.399,0:30:36.399 so after speaking with multiple sources

0:30:33.360,0:30:39.840 he had uh the the reporter had said that

0:30:36.399,0:30:43.520 it had wrapped uh they had checked in

0:30:39.840,0:30:46.000 with uh pinewood studio sources and that

0:30:43.520,0:30:48.960 it looked like on august 18th they were

0:30:46.000,0:30:50.399 still kind of filming some things uh but

0:30:48.960,0:30:52.720 by the 20th

0:30:50.399,0:30:56.399 most things had had pretty much finished

0:30:52.720,0:30:59.519 up uh andor sets itself apart from other

0:30:56.399,0:31:01.760 disney plus star wars spin-off shows uh

0:30:59.519,0:31:02.960 that were actually filmed are on

0:31:01.760,0:31:06.240 location

0:31:02.960,0:31:08.720 rather than using the vr volume

0:31:06.240,0:31:11.679 set which was used for book of boba fett

0:31:08.720,0:31:15.120 the mandalorian and the upcoming obi-wan

0:31:11.679,0:31:17.919 kenobi series so because they were

0:31:15.120,0:31:21.279 doing a lot of shots outside obviously

0:31:17.919,0:31:22.240 there were set leaks from andor

0:31:21.279,0:31:24.559 that

0:31:22.240,0:31:26.080 people were were passing around on the

0:31:24.559,0:31:28.000 internet trying to figure out what it

0:31:26.080,0:31:30.960 was going to be

0:31:28.000,0:31:33.840 there were some some

0:31:30.960,0:31:35.679 uh trooper variants and some imperial

0:31:33.840,0:31:38.320 things that people have seen

0:31:35.679,0:31:40.480 so again we'll have to see so compared

0:31:38.320,0:31:42.640 to other upcoming star wars shows the

0:31:40.480,0:31:43.840 hype and interest in andor

0:31:42.640,0:31:46.399 seems to be

0:31:43.840,0:31:47.840 tempted at best which is kind of where

0:31:46.399,0:31:50.320 you are

0:31:47.840,0:31:52.559 this is despite rogue one being a

0:31:50.320,0:31:55.120 critical and commercial success for

0:31:52.559,0:31:57.919 lucasfilms that said cassian is

0:31:55.120,0:32:00.559 considered one of the better characters

0:31:57.919,0:32:03.679 in that movie thanks to his moral

0:32:00.559,0:32:05.679 uh ambuguity painting of the rebellion

0:32:03.679,0:32:07.760 in a darker light but it's worth

0:32:05.679,0:32:10.000 remembering that the bad batch earned

0:32:07.760,0:32:12.159 mixed reactions following its initial

0:32:10.000,0:32:15.039 announcement yet the show has

0:32:12.159,0:32:17.120 more than justified its existence uh

0:32:15.039,0:32:20.159 with arguably one of the strongest first

0:32:17.120,0:32:21.760 seasons of star wars animation

0:32:20.159,0:32:23.440 so we'll see

0:32:21.760,0:32:25.679 yeah so

0:32:23.440,0:32:27.840 i know you're not excited about it the

0:32:25.679,0:32:30.559 problem that i have here is that rogue

0:32:27.840,0:32:32.720 one and i loved the movie i really did i

0:32:30.559,0:32:34.559 thought it was great it was shot well it

0:32:32.720,0:32:37.279 was acted well

0:32:34.559,0:32:38.480 it was a fantastic story it did a great

0:32:37.279,0:32:40.559 handoff

0:32:38.480,0:32:44.399 rogue one was supposed to be

0:32:40.559,0:32:45.440 essentially a prequel to a new hope

0:32:44.399,0:32:49.120 okay

0:32:45.440,0:32:52.399 i i can buy that so i i finally know

0:32:49.120,0:32:54.399 how princess leia got the plans right i

0:32:52.399,0:32:56.240 didn't need to it didn't do anything for

0:32:54.399,0:32:57.519 the overall story arc right but now i

0:32:56.240,0:32:59.360 know

0:32:57.519,0:33:01.600 so this is a prequel

0:32:59.360,0:33:03.760 to the prequel

0:33:01.600,0:33:05.919 and it's a character who was basically a

0:33:03.760,0:33:07.440 carbon copy of han solo

0:33:05.919,0:33:10.559 down to the point that they even dressed

0:33:07.440,0:33:11.440 him like han solo

0:33:10.559,0:33:14.159 so

0:33:11.440,0:33:15.679 i don't understand why we need an origin

0:33:14.159,0:33:18.640 story for

0:33:15.679,0:33:21.120 cassie and andor who's dead who's dead

0:33:18.640,0:33:22.720 you know where his story goes

0:33:21.120,0:33:24.480 you know what his contribution to the

0:33:22.720,0:33:26.159 overall story was

0:33:24.480,0:33:28.000 knowing what he did before that is

0:33:26.159,0:33:30.320 completely irrelevant

0:33:28.000,0:33:31.919 you have a character who is morally

0:33:30.320,0:33:34.880 ambiguous

0:33:31.919,0:33:37.440 you have and here we go again with the

0:33:34.880,0:33:38.960 the hints of why he's like that because

0:33:37.440,0:33:41.760 of his experience since he's been

0:33:38.960,0:33:43.440 involved since he was six

0:33:41.760,0:33:46.080 that's all you need to know

0:33:43.440,0:33:48.159 you don't need to know you know you knew

0:33:46.080,0:33:50.880 that hand shot first

0:33:48.159,0:33:53.360 that scene defined hand

0:33:50.880,0:33:56.399 this scene in rogue one where he shoots

0:33:53.360,0:33:58.159 his informant and and uses that as an

0:33:56.399,0:33:59.919 opportunity to escape

0:33:58.159,0:34:01.679 defines him

0:33:59.919,0:34:04.799 as a character the way that he portrayed

0:34:01.679,0:34:06.960 that character defines the character

0:34:04.799,0:34:08.879 when you go back and you do a prequel

0:34:06.960,0:34:10.320 and you try to explain that character

0:34:08.879,0:34:11.919 further you're going to dilute the

0:34:10.320,0:34:13.679 character and you're going to diminish

0:34:11.919,0:34:15.679 that character

0:34:13.679,0:34:18.000 now if they shoot it and they do a story

0:34:15.679,0:34:19.599 as good as they did rogue one

0:34:18.000,0:34:21.359 that's great

0:34:19.599,0:34:22.720 you know regardless i'm going to wind up

0:34:21.359,0:34:25.200 watching it

0:34:22.720,0:34:26.399 but disney needs to come up with better

0:34:25.200,0:34:28.639 stories they need to come up with

0:34:26.399,0:34:31.440 original stories i'll even give you the

0:34:28.639,0:34:34.159 bad batch because the bad batch

0:34:31.440,0:34:36.079 is bridging that gap between clone wars

0:34:34.159,0:34:38.399 and a new hope it's telling you that

0:34:36.079,0:34:41.040 story it's it's filling in the blanks

0:34:38.399,0:34:44.399 that people want to know

0:34:41.040,0:34:45.919 star wars now has this huge gap

0:34:44.399,0:34:48.879 between

0:34:45.919,0:34:52.000 prevent return of the jedi and force

0:34:48.879,0:34:53.919 awakens that for some reason disney

0:34:52.000,0:34:55.599 doesn't want to touch you're getting

0:34:53.919,0:34:57.119 little hints of it from the mandalorian

0:34:55.599,0:34:58.960 but you're only looking five years in

0:34:57.119,0:35:02.240 the future right you're not looking more

0:34:58.960,0:35:04.400 than that 30-year gap there and they're

0:35:02.240,0:35:06.640 doing absolutely nothing to tell you

0:35:04.400,0:35:08.560 about the stuff that got you to their

0:35:06.640,0:35:11.839 last three big movies right they're

0:35:08.560,0:35:11.839 basically going back

0:35:12.240,0:35:16.480 further right ahead

0:35:14.480,0:35:19.520 and not where

0:35:16.480,0:35:21.040 right they should be right in that sense

0:35:19.520,0:35:22.640 yeah they're they're doing they're going

0:35:21.040,0:35:25.040 about the storytelling the wrong way

0:35:22.640,0:35:27.200 people are desperate to get

0:35:25.040,0:35:28.960 like where the hell did the first order

0:35:27.200,0:35:30.880 come from they still haven't explained

0:35:28.960,0:35:32.480 that they hint it to it

0:35:30.880,0:35:33.760 in some of the novels but nobody's gonna

0:35:32.480,0:35:36.400 read the novels you're gonna have three

0:35:33.760,0:35:38.480 percent of the people read the novels

0:35:36.400,0:35:42.160 and that would help

0:35:38.480,0:35:45.359 for disney at least bridging the gap of

0:35:42.160,0:35:47.680 star wars galaxy's edge exactly why are

0:35:45.359,0:35:49.599 we worried about the first order where's

0:35:47.680,0:35:52.240 darth vader where's all these you know

0:35:49.599,0:35:53.520 okay kylo ren all right whatever but

0:35:52.240,0:35:55.520 how did we

0:35:53.520,0:35:57.760 they want to get to here entire star

0:35:55.520,0:35:59.119 wars property on the on the sequel

0:35:57.760,0:36:00.560 trilogy

0:35:59.119,0:36:03.040 but they seem

0:36:00.560,0:36:05.680 very hesitant to get you to that trilogy

0:36:03.040,0:36:07.520 to how it's there i have i feel i have

0:36:05.680,0:36:08.480 no investment whatsoever in that new

0:36:07.520,0:36:09.920 trilogy

0:36:08.480,0:36:12.240 the characters that they introduced

0:36:09.920,0:36:15.040 there are completely paper characters

0:36:12.240,0:36:17.680 that have no meaning to me whatsoever

0:36:15.040,0:36:19.200 rey is a jedi okay great what's she

0:36:17.680,0:36:20.480 gonna do now

0:36:19.200,0:36:22.320 we don't know

0:36:20.480,0:36:23.839 she turned into lightsabers and she

0:36:22.320,0:36:26.400 moved on like

0:36:23.839,0:36:28.000 that makes no sense

0:36:26.400,0:36:30.079 you had finn that you were setting up as

0:36:28.000,0:36:31.359 a jedi because he was force sensitive

0:36:30.079,0:36:32.800 and then all of a sudden he's not force

0:36:31.359,0:36:34.160 sensitive anymore nobody cares if he's

0:36:32.800,0:36:36.640 force sensitive

0:36:34.160,0:36:38.800 he's just there

0:36:36.640,0:36:41.440 you've got you've got power who you

0:36:38.800,0:36:43.440 completely threw away in last jedi and

0:36:41.440,0:36:45.359 he comes back and he

0:36:43.440,0:36:47.599 kind of does stuff and he can fly again

0:36:45.359,0:36:50.079 all of a sudden and it's like

0:36:47.599,0:36:51.920 they gave you nothing to be invested in

0:36:50.079,0:36:53.599 these characters right

0:36:51.920,0:36:56.560 people were far more worried about

0:36:53.599,0:36:59.040 carrie fisher showing up in in

0:36:56.560,0:37:00.960 riza skywalker and what she did they

0:36:59.040,0:37:03.760 were more invested

0:37:00.960,0:37:04.960 in laura dern's character who nobody

0:37:03.760,0:37:07.280 liked but

0:37:04.960,0:37:08.800 she sacrificed herself

0:37:07.280,0:37:10.560 you know they were they were more

0:37:08.800,0:37:12.800 concerned about ackbar but you just

0:37:10.560,0:37:14.160 spaced him you just killed him off and

0:37:12.800,0:37:15.200 nobody you didn't get to see anything

0:37:14.160,0:37:16.720 with him

0:37:15.200,0:37:18.800 it's a trap

0:37:16.720,0:37:21.040 it's like

0:37:18.800,0:37:24.400 i i don't understand what they're like

0:37:21.040,0:37:27.119 like disney is a storytelling company

0:37:24.400,0:37:29.359 and they're doing a terrible job

0:37:27.119,0:37:32.400 you look at what they do with marvel

0:37:29.359,0:37:35.440 marvel is a fantastic fantastic

0:37:32.400,0:37:37.280 storytelling thing by the way uh kevin

0:37:35.440,0:37:39.760 feige did come out and announce he's

0:37:37.280,0:37:41.760 doing he's producing he's co-producing

0:37:39.760,0:37:43.520 a star wars movie with kathleen kennedy

0:37:41.760,0:37:44.800 and han solo is not gonna be in the

0:37:43.520,0:37:46.079 movie

0:37:44.800,0:37:47.359 apparently there was some speculation

0:37:46.079,0:37:49.280 that han solo was gonna show up in

0:37:47.359,0:37:50.640 whatever movie he was doing but he's

0:37:49.280,0:37:52.640 dead

0:37:50.640,0:37:56.320 well so was darth maul darth maul's back

0:37:52.640,0:37:57.839 too so true okay yeah and obi-wan is

0:37:56.320,0:38:00.640 dead and he's back and cassian's dead

0:37:57.839,0:38:02.240 and he's back so okay gotcha death in

0:38:00.640,0:38:04.480 the star wars universe doesn't really

0:38:02.240,0:38:08.640 matter it's like a soap opera exactly

0:38:04.480,0:38:08.640 exactly you you look different

0:38:08.960,0:38:11.200 anyway

0:38:10.160,0:38:13.520 you done

0:38:11.200,0:38:15.920 are you done ranting i am done this was

0:38:13.520,0:38:17.520 a star wars rant this week phew

0:38:15.920,0:38:20.960 so we'll be right back with our

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0:39:31.440,0:39:37.200 go for entertainment news so spencer

0:39:34.560,0:39:39.920 eldon the man who was photographed as a

0:39:37.200,0:39:43.119 baby on the album cover for nirvana's

0:39:39.920,0:39:45.920 never mind is actually suing the band

0:39:43.119,0:39:47.839 alleging sexual exploitation

0:39:45.920,0:39:49.920 so the cover depicts eldon as a

0:39:47.839,0:39:52.320 four-month-old in a swimming pool

0:39:49.920,0:39:54.079 grasping for a dollar bill that's being

0:39:52.320,0:39:55.200 dangled in front of him on a fishing

0:39:54.079,0:39:57.839 line

0:39:55.200,0:40:00.320 now 30 eldon says his parents never

0:39:57.839,0:40:03.440 signed a release authorizing the use of

0:40:00.320,0:40:06.240 his image on the album he also alleges

0:40:03.440,0:40:07.839 that the nude image constitutes child

0:40:06.240,0:40:10.480 pornography

0:40:07.839,0:40:13.520 these images expose spencer's intimate

0:40:10.480,0:40:16.319 part body parts and displays his

0:40:13.520,0:40:19.200 genitals from the time he was an infant

0:40:16.319,0:40:21.599 to present day says his legal papers

0:40:19.200,0:40:24.640 that were filed in california

0:40:21.599,0:40:26.640 so non-sexualized photos of infants are

0:40:24.640,0:40:30.240 generally not considered child

0:40:26.640,0:40:32.880 pornography under u.s law however his

0:40:30.240,0:40:35.359 his attorney argues that

0:40:32.880,0:40:37.440 in the inclusion of the dollar bill

0:40:35.359,0:40:40.000 which was superimposed after the

0:40:37.440,0:40:44.160 photograph was taken makes the miner

0:40:40.000,0:40:46.720 seem like a quote-unquote sex worker

0:40:44.160,0:40:49.920 the legal case also alleges that nirvana

0:40:46.720,0:40:52.720 had promised to cover his genitals with

0:40:49.920,0:40:55.839 a sticker but the agreement was never

0:40:52.720,0:40:58.400 upheld eldon alleges that his true

0:40:55.839,0:41:01.839 identity and legal name are forever tied

0:40:58.400,0:41:04.400 to this commercial sexual exploitation

0:41:01.839,0:41:07.200 he experienced as a minor which has been

0:41:04.400,0:41:09.920 distributed and sold worldwide from the

0:41:07.200,0:41:12.160 time he was a baby to the present day he

0:41:09.920,0:41:15.440 claims that he has suffered and will

0:41:12.160,0:41:18.640 continue to suffer lifelong damages as a

0:41:15.440,0:41:21.200 result of the artwork including extreme

0:41:18.640,0:41:24.319 and permanent emotional distress

0:41:21.200,0:41:27.359 as well as interference with his normal

0:41:24.319,0:41:30.400 development and educational progress

0:41:27.359,0:41:34.240 and medical and psychological treatment

0:41:30.400,0:41:37.359 so he is now asking for damages for uh

0:41:34.240,0:41:38.640 of at least 150 000

0:41:37.359,0:41:42.000 from each

0:41:38.640,0:41:45.200 of the 15 defendants who include the two

0:41:42.000,0:41:48.319 surviving band members uh the managers

0:41:45.200,0:41:51.119 of kurt cobain's estate cobain's former

0:41:48.319,0:41:53.520 wife courtney love and the photographer

0:41:51.119,0:41:56.240 uh kirk well uh weedle uh

0:41:53.520,0:41:57.920 representatives for nirvana and the

0:41:56.240,0:42:00.800 their record label have not yet

0:41:57.920,0:42:03.359 responded to the claims uh elden has

0:42:00.800,0:42:06.000 recreated the album cover several times

0:42:03.359,0:42:07.680 as a teenager and adult always wearing

0:42:06.000,0:42:10.000 swimming trunks

0:42:07.680,0:42:13.440 to mark nevermind's 10th

0:42:10.000,0:42:15.520 20th and 25th anniversaries however he

0:42:13.440,0:42:19.040 has sometimes expressed ambivalence

0:42:15.520,0:42:21.599 about the photo shoot so back in 2016 he

0:42:19.040,0:42:24.560 actually told time magazine that he got

0:42:21.599,0:42:25.760 a little upset about the notoriety as he

0:42:24.560,0:42:28.160 grew up

0:42:25.760,0:42:30.240 he said i just woke up already being a

0:42:28.160,0:42:32.480 part of this huge project it's pretty

0:42:30.240,0:42:35.200 difficult you feel like you're famous

0:42:32.480,0:42:36.960 for nothing it's hard not to get upset

0:42:35.200,0:42:38.400 when you hear how much money was

0:42:36.960,0:42:40.480 involved

0:42:38.400,0:42:42.640 and then you go to a baseball game and

0:42:40.480,0:42:44.720 you think about it man everybody at this

0:42:42.640,0:42:46.240 game has probably seen my little baby

0:42:44.720,0:42:48.400 penis

0:42:46.240,0:42:51.359 and you kind of feel that you know his

0:42:48.400,0:42:54.560 human rights were were revoked but then

0:42:51.359,0:42:57.119 in under other interviews uh that he did

0:42:54.560,0:43:00.000 he was kind of more upbeat about the

0:42:57.119,0:43:02.079 image so at one point he had said it's

0:43:00.000,0:43:04.319 always been a positive thing and opened

0:43:02.079,0:43:05.440 doors for me and this he had told

0:43:04.319,0:43:07.760 guardian

0:43:05.440,0:43:11.359 the guardian about six years ago he had

0:43:07.760,0:43:14.160 said i was 23 and an artist and it the

0:43:11.359,0:43:18.640 story actually gave me an opportunity to

0:43:14.160,0:43:20.880 work with uh shepard fairley uh for five

0:43:18.640,0:43:22.800 years and he was a huge music

0:43:20.880,0:43:25.119 connoisseur so when he heard that i was

0:43:22.800,0:43:28.400 the nirvana baby he thought it was

0:43:25.119,0:43:31.359 really cool and then back in 2008 his

0:43:28.400,0:43:34.560 father had recounted that the photo

0:43:31.359,0:43:36.079 shoot um for the photo shoot to us radio

0:43:34.560,0:43:39.119 network npr

0:43:36.079,0:43:41.920 uh that they were actually offered 200

0:43:39.119,0:43:44.880 by the photographer who was actually a

0:43:41.920,0:43:48.000 family friend and they basically had had

0:43:44.880,0:43:50.480 this huge pool party no one had any idea

0:43:48.000,0:43:52.400 what was going on and the family quickly

0:43:50.480,0:43:54.560 forgot about the photo shoot until three

0:43:52.400,0:43:58.319 months later when they saw the never

0:43:54.560,0:44:02.400 mind album cover blown up on the wall

0:43:58.319,0:44:05.599 of tower records in los angeles

0:44:02.400,0:44:07.599 two months after the npr article

0:44:05.599,0:44:10.400 griffin records had sent the

0:44:07.599,0:44:13.040 one-year-old spencer a platinum album

0:44:10.400,0:44:14.800 and a teddy bear um the album which

0:44:13.040,0:44:17.359 included the hits smells like teen

0:44:14.800,0:44:20.079 spirit come as you are and lithium went

0:44:17.359,0:44:21.359 to sell on 30 million copies around the

0:44:20.079,0:44:24.240 world

0:44:21.359,0:44:26.400 so i'm not a lawyer or

0:44:24.240,0:44:28.560 league i don't play one on tv

0:44:26.400,0:44:29.760 nor do i play one on tv

0:44:28.560,0:44:32.160 uh but

0:44:29.760,0:44:34.079 i can't help but think if you looked up

0:44:32.160,0:44:36.240 frivolous lawsuit in the dictionary this

0:44:34.079,0:44:38.960 guy's face would be right next to it

0:44:36.240,0:44:40.319 right next to his baby penis

0:44:38.960,0:44:42.480 um

0:44:40.319,0:44:44.720 this is ridiculous because it was okay

0:44:42.480,0:44:46.640 for him to exploit his notoriety because

0:44:44.720,0:44:48.319 i'll tell you

0:44:46.640,0:44:49.599 you have no idea who that baby is

0:44:48.319,0:44:51.359 absolutely

0:44:49.599,0:44:53.440 and you wouldn't know anything about who

0:44:51.359,0:44:55.920 that baby is if he hadn't exploited it

0:44:53.440,0:44:58.000 himself right so apparently the gravy

0:44:55.920,0:45:00.880 train has run out on his ability to

0:44:58.000,0:45:02.960 exploit this right so now

0:45:00.880,0:45:05.119 he's going to complain about it and say

0:45:02.960,0:45:07.040 his rights were violated and try to get

0:45:05.119,0:45:08.960 more money out of it and that's his next

0:45:07.040,0:45:12.480 phase of exploitation of this right

0:45:08.960,0:45:15.280 especially if you've never gone and

0:45:12.480,0:45:17.599 recreated this right but you did it

0:45:15.280,0:45:19.359 multiple times 10-year

0:45:17.599,0:45:21.280 20-year

0:45:19.359,0:45:23.119 just five years ago

0:45:21.280,0:45:24.560 on the 25th anniversary what happened

0:45:23.119,0:45:26.400 was he realized well you know i didn't

0:45:24.560,0:45:28.000 get nearly as much money for the 25-year

0:45:26.400,0:45:29.440 one that i thought was going to get yeah

0:45:28.000,0:45:31.040 i'm not going to get anywhere near what

0:45:29.440,0:45:33.760 i want for the 30 years so let me sue

0:45:31.040,0:45:36.000 now right and i'm sorry but once you've

0:45:33.760,0:45:37.599 taken advantage of this and exploited it

0:45:36.000,0:45:39.440 and used it for your own gain you've

0:45:37.599,0:45:42.000 you've given up any right you have to

0:45:39.440,0:45:43.440 sue on it right right i think they

0:45:42.000,0:45:45.680 should go through with the lawsuit and

0:45:43.440,0:45:47.920 when he loses he should pay the

0:45:45.680,0:45:49.920 defendant's legal fees

0:45:47.920,0:45:50.720 and this is why you need tort reform in

0:45:49.920,0:45:52.880 this

0:45:50.720,0:45:56.560 country so that you don't have stupid

0:45:52.880,0:45:59.599 frivolous lawsuits like this yep

0:45:56.560,0:46:02.640 on to a sadder note yeah so continuing

0:45:59.599,0:46:06.720 with some music news but very sad music

0:46:02.640,0:46:09.040 news charlie watts the self uh effacing

0:46:06.720,0:46:11.520 and unshakable rolling stones drummer

0:46:09.040,0:46:14.480 who helped anchor one of rock's greatest

0:46:11.520,0:46:17.040 rhythm sections and used his day job to

0:46:14.480,0:46:19.599 support his enduring love of jazz had

0:46:17.040,0:46:21.760 passed away according to his publicist

0:46:19.599,0:46:24.480 and he was 80 years old

0:46:21.760,0:46:26.880 his publicist said on tuesday that watts

0:46:24.480,0:46:29.040 passed away peacefully in a london

0:46:26.880,0:46:31.680 hospital hospital earlier today

0:46:29.040,0:46:34.480 surrounded by his family charlie was a

0:46:31.680,0:46:37.520 cherished husband father and grandfather

0:46:34.480,0:46:39.520 who also uh and was also a member of the

0:46:37.520,0:46:41.680 rolling stones one of the greatest

0:46:39.520,0:46:42.960 drummers of his generation

0:46:41.680,0:46:45.440 generation

0:46:42.960,0:46:48.640 watts had announced that he would not go

0:46:45.440,0:46:51.920 on the world tour in uh with the stones

0:46:48.640,0:46:52.800 in 2022 because of an undefined health

0:46:51.920,0:46:55.280 issue

0:46:52.800,0:46:57.920 the quiet elegantly dressed watts had

0:46:55.280,0:46:59.760 often ranked with keith moon ginger

0:46:57.920,0:47:02.079 baker and a handful of others as a

0:46:59.760,0:47:04.880 premier rock drummer

0:47:02.079,0:47:07.200 respected worldwide for his muscular

0:47:04.880,0:47:08.960 swinging style as the stones rose from

0:47:07.200,0:47:12.079 their scruffy beginnings to

0:47:08.960,0:47:15.680 international stardom he joined the band

0:47:12.079,0:47:18.319 early in 1963 and remained for nearly 60

0:47:15.680,0:47:20.559 years ranked just behind mick jagger and

0:47:18.319,0:47:23.440 keith richards as the group's longest

0:47:20.559,0:47:26.720 lasting and most essential members he

0:47:23.440,0:47:29.200 stayed on and largely held to him uh

0:47:26.720,0:47:32.480 held himself apart through the drug

0:47:29.200,0:47:34.960 abuse creative clashes and ego wars that

0:47:32.480,0:47:36.160 helped kill founding member brian

0:47:34.960,0:47:39.440 jones

0:47:36.160,0:47:42.079 drove basis bill wyman and jos jones's

0:47:39.440,0:47:44.800 replacement mick taylor to quit and

0:47:42.079,0:47:48.000 otherwise made being in the stones a

0:47:44.800,0:47:50.400 most exhausting job a classic stone song

0:47:48.000,0:47:52.800 like brown sugar and start me off

0:47:50.400,0:47:55.200 uh start me up often begin with a hard

0:47:52.800,0:47:58.400 guitar riff from richard with watts

0:47:55.200,0:48:00.960 slowly closing behind with wyman as the

0:47:58.400,0:48:02.079 bassist likely to say fattening up the

0:48:00.960,0:48:04.480 sound

0:48:02.079,0:48:06.480 watts's speed power and time keeping

0:48:04.480,0:48:09.359 were never better showcased than during

0:48:06.480,0:48:11.920 the concert documentary shine a light

0:48:09.359,0:48:14.480 when director martin scorsese filmed

0:48:11.920,0:48:16.559 jumping jack flash from where he drummed

0:48:14.480,0:48:20.079 towards the back of the stage

0:48:16.559,0:48:22.640 the stones began watt said as black as

0:48:20.079,0:48:25.440 white blokes from england playing black

0:48:22.640,0:48:28.000 american music but quickly evolved their

0:48:25.440,0:48:29.920 own distinctive sound watts was actually

0:48:28.000,0:48:32.079 a jazz drummer in his early years and

0:48:29.920,0:48:33.440 never lost his affinity for the music he

0:48:32.079,0:48:35.520 first loved

0:48:33.440,0:48:37.839 heading his own jazz band and taking on

0:48:35.520,0:48:39.839 numerous side projects

0:48:37.839,0:48:43.839 um richard and

0:48:39.839,0:48:47.040 and jagger at times you know seemed to

0:48:43.839,0:48:50.079 admire him as both a man and a musician

0:48:47.040,0:48:52.559 um and richards has actually caught

0:48:50.079,0:48:55.680 called watts the key and often joked

0:48:52.559,0:48:58.160 that their uh affinity was so strong

0:48:55.680,0:49:00.559 that on stage he sometimes tried to

0:48:58.160,0:49:02.880 rattle him by suddenly changing the beat

0:49:00.559,0:49:04.880 only to have watts just kind of change

0:49:02.880,0:49:07.280 it back

0:49:04.880,0:49:09.480 watts also found refuge from the rock

0:49:07.280,0:49:12.480 life by marrying shirley anne shepard in

0:49:09.480,0:49:13.839 1964 and having a daughter seraphina

0:49:12.480,0:49:16.559 soon after

0:49:13.839,0:49:18.240 so while other famous rock star

0:49:16.559,0:49:20.480 marriages crumbled

0:49:18.240,0:49:22.960 they were together up until

0:49:20.480,0:49:25.920 his passing yeah

0:49:22.960,0:49:28.559 shane he was a he was a gentleman he was

0:49:25.920,0:49:31.119 a sharp dresser to talk about how he was

0:49:28.559,0:49:34.800 always fashion conscious yeah uh and he

0:49:31.119,0:49:36.960 was always so quiet yes in interviews

0:49:34.800,0:49:39.040 and on stage like he never

0:49:36.960,0:49:41.520 he was modest to the point that he never

0:49:39.040,0:49:44.000 tried to take you know the spotlight

0:49:41.520,0:49:45.920 from anybody yeah and he was very can he

0:49:44.000,0:49:47.440 knew how good he was everybody else knew

0:49:45.920,0:49:49.359 how good he was

0:49:47.440,0:49:51.200 and that was all he needed to know he

0:49:49.359,0:49:52.400 did not need to be a front man he did

0:49:51.200,0:49:54.240 not need to be

0:49:52.400,0:49:56.079 yeah you know that guy that was out

0:49:54.240,0:49:58.000 there strutting his stuff yeah and they

0:49:56.079,0:49:59.760 were talking about obviously you know

0:49:58.000,0:50:00.559 all the different radio stations have

0:49:59.760,0:50:02.960 been

0:50:00.559,0:50:04.800 talking about it you know the last two

0:50:02.960,0:50:05.680 days and stuff and they were basically

0:50:04.800,0:50:08.160 saying

0:50:05.680,0:50:08.880 you know he was one of a kind he he you

0:50:08.160,0:50:11.599 know

0:50:08.880,0:50:13.200 was a rock star for so long but yet

0:50:11.599,0:50:15.839 never really

0:50:13.200,0:50:18.000 lived it he settled down and he had his

0:50:15.839,0:50:20.400 wife he had his daughter he had his

0:50:18.000,0:50:21.920 granddaughter and that's what he wanted

0:50:20.400,0:50:23.760 he didn't need

0:50:21.920,0:50:25.599 to be crazy

0:50:23.760,0:50:27.359 always looking for the next clean home

0:50:25.599,0:50:29.359 when did he get home when could he spend

0:50:27.359,0:50:31.040 time with his family right right and

0:50:29.359,0:50:32.319 that's that's really a tribute to the

0:50:31.040,0:50:33.920 kind of man here

0:50:32.319,0:50:35.599 yeah

0:50:33.920,0:50:38.559 so it's sad

0:50:35.599,0:50:40.559 we will we'll miss his passing

0:50:38.559,0:50:42.640 so will gonna take a quick break we'll

0:50:40.559,0:50:45.200 be right back with our insightful picks

0:50:42.640,0:50:45.200 of the week

0:50:46.570,0:50:51.200 [Applause]

0:50:48.880,0:50:53.760 go for your insightful pick so my

0:50:51.200,0:50:56.160 insightful pick this week is broadway

0:50:53.760,0:50:58.720 beyond the golden age

0:50:56.160,0:51:01.440 it is available on pbs uh it is

0:50:58.720,0:51:02.480 available through streaming and probably

0:51:01.440,0:51:04.800 if you

0:51:02.480,0:51:07.119 are interested and you look up pbs your

0:51:04.800,0:51:10.559 schedule it's probably playing multiple

0:51:07.119,0:51:11.839 times it's under the great performances

0:51:10.559,0:51:14.559 uh

0:51:11.839,0:51:18.480 header so broadway beyond the golden age

0:51:14.559,0:51:21.920 explores the world of broadway from 1959

0:51:18.480,0:51:24.800 through the early 1980s as recounted by

0:51:21.920,0:51:27.359 a diverse cast of broadway stars who

0:51:24.800,0:51:30.240 live through it creating a first-hand

0:51:27.359,0:51:32.640 archive of personal backstage stories

0:51:30.240,0:51:35.520 and memories it was written and directed

0:51:32.640,0:51:36.960 and produced by the late filmmaker rich

0:51:35.520,0:51:40.079 rick mckay

0:51:36.960,0:51:41.520 and hosted by two-time award tony

0:51:40.079,0:51:43.680 award-winning

0:51:41.520,0:51:45.280 tony award nominee

0:51:43.680,0:51:47.520 jonathan groff

0:51:45.280,0:51:51.200 the new documentary is a long-awaited

0:51:47.520,0:51:53.839 sequel to mckay's award-winning 2003

0:51:51.200,0:51:56.720 film broadway the golden age by the

0:51:53.839,0:51:59.119 legends who were there

0:51:56.720,0:52:01.520 so this is a follow-up to

0:51:59.119,0:52:05.040 his um original

0:52:01.520,0:52:08.640 uh oral history of broadway which

0:52:05.040,0:52:12.079 included the 60s and 70s

0:52:08.640,0:52:14.160 so it spotlights um the broadway show

0:52:12.079,0:52:16.720 once upon a mattress

0:52:14.160,0:52:20.079 bye bye birdie barefoot in the park

0:52:16.720,0:52:23.520 pippin a chorus line ain't misbehavin

0:52:20.079,0:52:26.000 chicago and 42nd street um so particular

0:52:23.520,0:52:29.040 focus is placed on famed directors and

0:52:26.000,0:52:32.400 choreographers like bob fosse and george

0:52:29.040,0:52:35.680 abbott and michael bennett um with you

0:52:32.400,0:52:37.480 know antidotes from 1959's once upon a

0:52:35.680,0:52:40.000 mattress through

0:52:37.480,0:52:43.119 1983's when a chorus line became the

0:52:40.000,0:52:46.240 longest running broadway show in history

0:52:43.119,0:52:49.359 and it features a galaxy of stars from

0:52:46.240,0:52:53.119 alec baldwin uh carol burnett glenn

0:52:49.359,0:52:55.440 close jane fonda uh robert goulet uh

0:52:53.119,0:52:58.400 liza minnelli cheetah rivera dick van

0:52:55.440,0:52:59.839 dyke benverene and and so many more and

0:52:58.400,0:53:03.359 what's interesting is that they have

0:52:59.839,0:53:04.640 some very rare archival photos and also

0:53:03.359,0:53:08.000 never before

0:53:04.640,0:53:10.400 um footage that was shown from on stage

0:53:08.000,0:53:11.920 and off stage so you know they they talk

0:53:10.400,0:53:14.480 about what was really interesting was

0:53:11.920,0:53:16.640 how a chorus line came to be and they

0:53:14.480,0:53:18.640 had the original cast members and and

0:53:16.640,0:53:20.079 basically the idea kind of happened

0:53:18.640,0:53:22.160 because

0:53:20.079,0:53:24.000 dancers were always just kind of

0:53:22.160,0:53:26.160 something that went along with broadway

0:53:24.000,0:53:28.079 shows you know they were always the ones

0:53:26.160,0:53:30.160 that worked the hardest because they had

0:53:28.079,0:53:31.920 to learn all these routines and

0:53:30.160,0:53:34.559 basically got no

0:53:31.920,0:53:35.760 recognition so one night

0:53:34.559,0:53:38.240 this one

0:53:35.760,0:53:41.040 right this this one writer and director

0:53:38.240,0:53:42.960 kind of gathered up all these different

0:53:41.040,0:53:44.720 dancers from all these different shows

0:53:42.960,0:53:46.400 and kind of had a party

0:53:44.720,0:53:48.319 at his house and they kind of started at

0:53:46.400,0:53:50.960 like 11 o'clock at night

0:53:48.319,0:53:53.280 and it went until noon the next morning

0:53:50.960,0:53:55.520 and basically they were just telling

0:53:53.280,0:53:58.240 all their stories of how they became a

0:53:55.520,0:54:00.720 dancer what they were kind of

0:53:58.240,0:54:02.800 escaping from and and what their story

0:54:00.720,0:54:05.280 was of of going from one audition to

0:54:02.800,0:54:07.440 another and finally getting it and that

0:54:05.280,0:54:09.359 all became

0:54:07.440,0:54:11.359 what we know now as

0:54:09.359,0:54:13.680 the broadway show and what also became

0:54:11.359,0:54:14.480 the movie a chorus line and it and the

0:54:13.680,0:54:17.280 one

0:54:14.480,0:54:19.680 um dancer actually said if you look

0:54:17.280,0:54:20.800 through you know the notes from the

0:54:19.680,0:54:23.599 original

0:54:20.800,0:54:26.559 uh script from their party

0:54:23.599,0:54:28.720 his his dialogue is like word for word

0:54:26.559,0:54:30.480 it was his exact story

0:54:28.720,0:54:33.359 basically they just changed the the name

0:54:30.480,0:54:35.440 of the actor that was that was it um and

0:54:33.359,0:54:38.160 then it goes on that it just became such

0:54:35.440,0:54:40.799 a hit and that when they did finally

0:54:38.160,0:54:42.480 become the longest running show they did

0:54:40.799,0:54:46.079 a special performance where they brought

0:54:42.480,0:54:47.920 back everybody who had been in a chorus

0:54:46.079,0:54:49.440 line and

0:54:47.920,0:54:50.880 it was this like phenomenal

0:54:49.440,0:54:52.960 record-breaking

0:54:50.880,0:54:55.280 cast that they had so it was really cool

0:54:52.960,0:54:57.520 so if you're interested in broadway

0:54:55.280,0:54:59.440 and you know seeing some of this

0:54:57.520,0:55:00.960 archival photo you know unfortunately

0:54:59.440,0:55:03.200 some of the actors have since passed

0:55:00.960,0:55:05.440 away but it's great that their oral

0:55:03.200,0:55:08.240 history has been preserved and you you

0:55:05.440,0:55:10.319 have them talking about how their

0:55:08.240,0:55:12.400 experience was really kind of

0:55:10.319,0:55:15.200 fascinating to hear these backstories of

0:55:12.400,0:55:17.760 these beloved shows that you know have

0:55:15.200,0:55:19.630 have stood the test of time okay cool

0:55:17.760,0:55:23.760 thank you

0:55:19.630,0:55:25.760 [Applause]

0:55:23.760,0:55:29.200 so my pick this week like i said earlier

0:55:25.760,0:55:33.839 is kind of a little off the wall

0:55:29.200,0:55:36.319 this is a top secret ufo projects

0:55:33.839,0:55:38.880 it's a six episode series on netflix

0:55:36.319,0:55:42.079 that features interviews with experts on

0:55:38.880,0:55:44.720 alien sightings and project blue book

0:55:42.079,0:55:47.680 the us air force's investigation in the

0:55:44.720,0:55:50.400 ufos that went on from the early 1950s

0:55:47.680,0:55:52.240 to the late 1960s

0:55:50.400,0:55:54.640 produced in a documentary style the

0:55:52.240,0:55:56.240 series covers reported alien events in

0:55:54.640,0:55:58.720 thematic fashion

0:55:56.240,0:56:02.480 from supposedly unknown details from

0:55:58.720,0:56:04.880 project blue book to soviet secrets

0:56:02.480,0:56:07.760 using new account news accounts

0:56:04.880,0:56:10.400 witness testimony subject matter experts

0:56:07.760,0:56:12.799 leaked documentation and dramatic

0:56:10.400,0:56:15.599 recreations the show attempts to depict

0:56:12.799,0:56:18.799 various accounts of extraterrestrial

0:56:15.599,0:56:20.640 encounters over the six part series

0:56:18.799,0:56:23.680 personally i consider myself an

0:56:20.640,0:56:25.599 optimistic skeptic when it comes to ufos

0:56:23.680,0:56:27.839 i don't generally consume these types of

0:56:25.599,0:56:29.359 programs to feed some search for truth

0:56:27.839,0:56:31.520 or revelation

0:56:29.359,0:56:33.920 instead i enjoy picking out the cultural

0:56:31.520,0:56:35.520 references historical data and general

0:56:33.920,0:56:38.640 state of mind of the individuals

0:56:35.520,0:56:40.000 involved in these types of accounts

0:56:38.640,0:56:42.319 the interesting thing is these

0:56:40.000,0:56:45.200 investigations did happen

0:56:42.319,0:56:47.520 whether or not ufos were found or aliens

0:56:45.200,0:56:48.799 were found or any of the conclusions

0:56:47.520,0:56:50.799 that are drawn

0:56:48.799,0:56:53.040 within the documentation of the

0:56:50.799,0:56:54.720 documentary itself um

0:56:53.040,0:56:57.359 actually happened

0:56:54.720,0:57:01.680 you know i leave that to the viewer

0:56:57.359,0:57:04.880 but i enjoy the historical aspect of

0:57:01.680,0:57:06.640 the u.s air force devoting resources to

0:57:04.880,0:57:08.640 researching these things

0:57:06.640,0:57:10.480 and to a certain extent

0:57:08.640,0:57:12.480 they don't necessarily research it from

0:57:10.480,0:57:14.319 the perspective of are they aliens as

0:57:12.480,0:57:15.280 much as they research it from the effect

0:57:14.319,0:57:18.079 of

0:57:15.280,0:57:20.960 is there a threat to national security

0:57:18.079,0:57:21.760 you know all during the cold war

0:57:20.960,0:57:24.079 the

0:57:21.760,0:57:26.559 speculation was okay well are the

0:57:24.079,0:57:28.160 russians developing technology that are

0:57:26.559,0:57:30.400 is capable

0:57:28.160,0:57:31.440 of performing the way these observations

0:57:30.400,0:57:34.880 are

0:57:31.440,0:57:36.079 and the the army then goes in and says

0:57:34.880,0:57:37.839 okay well

0:57:36.079,0:57:39.920 a lot of these incidents are focused

0:57:37.839,0:57:41.119 over nuclear sites so that's a national

0:57:39.920,0:57:42.880 security

0:57:41.119,0:57:45.280 uh issue there

0:57:42.880,0:57:47.440 so there was a lot of things and and

0:57:45.280,0:57:48.880 information came out from

0:57:47.440,0:57:50.480 uh released

0:57:48.880,0:57:52.240 russian documents

0:57:50.480,0:57:54.640 that the soviet union didn't try to

0:57:52.240,0:57:57.359 capitalize to a certain extent on the

0:57:54.640,0:57:59.760 alien ufo scare

0:57:57.359,0:58:01.760 to try to cause mass hysteria in the u.s

0:57:59.760,0:58:04.480 for tactical advantage

0:58:01.760,0:58:07.359 so a lot of the stuff that's that's out

0:58:04.480,0:58:08.960 there is factual information

0:58:07.359,0:58:10.720 how it's interpreted and what your

0:58:08.960,0:58:12.720 conclusions are

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It’s about that time for the kids to head back to school. We thought that COVID would just be a bad memory by now, but it seems it’s here to stay for a little while. So how do your kids feel about going back to school in the time of COVID. How do you as a parent feel and how can we make the most of the situation while still trying to keep our families safe and mitigate any anxiety we might have under the current climate?

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    • Insights Into Teens: Episode 122 "Return to school during COVID"
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      • It’s about that time for the kids to head back to school. We thought that COVID would just be a bad memory by now, but it seems it’s here to stay for a little while. So how do your kids feel about going back to school in the time of COVID. How do you as a parent feel and how can we make the most of the situation while still trying to keep our families safe and mitigate any anxiety we might have under the current climate?
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Returning to School During COVID

https://health.clevelandclinic.org/how-to-help-your-child-adjust-to-going-back-to-school-during-the-pandemic/

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  • After the challenges of last year, kids finally get to be kids again.
    • This upcoming school year means being reunited with friends, having some sort of regular schedule again and finally having the chance to show off those new clothes, backpacks and clever school supplies.
    • Good for them and good for parents, right?
    • While there still are concerns about keeping kids safe from the latest COVID-19 variants, at least parents won’t have to worry about teaching common core math or listening to lessons in between conference calls.
  • Unfortunately, some kids might be a little apprehensive about going back.
    • For them, home meant a safe haven from several stressors that they faced at school.
    • On the other hand, kids who are excited about returning to the classroom will now have to adjust to learning with COVID-19 protocols in place.
    • Either way, the transition back to school might be a little stressful for your child.

Why good change can also be stressful

  • “In general, going back to school is just a big change.
  • It’s a whole new setting especially for kids who are going from elementary school to middle school or middle school to high school.,” says pediatric psychologist Vanessa Jensen.
  • “It’s a whole new world, and all of the sudden, they’re expected to know what they’re doing.
  • It’s a huge shift from being in their little space at home to now being in this world of back to school.”

How to recognize when your child is having a tough time

  • If you’re not sure if your child is having a hard time with the transition back to school, think about how they normally act when they’re stressed and look for those behaviors.
  • For example, if your child gets headaches or stomach aches when they’re anxious, you’ll know that school is stressing them out should they start having them more frequently.
    • “We tend to go toward certain behaviors when we’re stressed.
    • My suggestion is for parents to think about what their child does when they get stressed in a new situation,” she says.
    • “Think about the behaviors that they usually revert to whether it’s hiding in the background of a small group or acting out and trying to be the funny kid.
    • Once you recognize what they tend to do under stress, that’s probably what you’re going to see as they enter into a new situation.”

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Helping teens make the adjustment

  • We remember our teenage years.
    • Some of us were wild and loud.
    • Some of us were shy and quiet.
    • But regardless of our personalities, most of us probably kept our crushes, craziness and challenging times under wraps.
    • Dr. Jensen advises us to keep that in mind when it comes to teens.
    • While it’s natural to want to know every single thing that’s going on in your teen’s life, prying or being overbearing will only make things worse.
      • “If your child has been able to handle things in general, give them some space.
      • But if you’re worried, you can always say things like, ‘You seem a little stressed. You know, I’m around,’
      • or ‘Have you talked to your friends?’ And if they have talked to their friends, you can always follow up with ‘Well if you want to talk to me, I’m here.’”
    • She calls this her “raindrop theory.”
      • Basically, this is dropping little hints that your child can reach out to you should things become unbearable.
  • Dr. Jensen explains.
    • “You just put the little raindrops out there by saying ‘You know, I’m around,’ or ‘I’m going to be in my study if you want to talk.’
    • You put those little hints out there and kids will reach out when they feel comfortable,” she says.
  • Reassure them gently and gradually.
    • “If you overwhelm your child with questions, (and I compare this to throwing buckets of water on them), they’re going to think, ‘Whoa, I’m not going there.’
    • So, give them space.
    • They know you’re there.
    • Just keep reassuring them that if things get bad, you’ll be there for them.”
  • Now, we all know that some kids think their parents will never be able to relate to their teenage struggles.
    • In cases like these, a “cool” aunt or uncle can help.
    • Dr. Jensen says that you can sprinkle the raindrops in the direction of another adult that you and your teen trust so they are encouraged to reach out to someone if they’re having a rough time.
      • “Give them some room and let the raindrops flow.
      • Let your teen know that you’re available to talk but if they’re not comfortable with you for whatever reason, make sure they do have someone to talk to.
    • You could say, ‘Aunt Susan is a good person to talk to,’ or ‘Uncle John asks about you all of the time.’
      • This can create little trails to other people when your child is kind of quiet with you.”

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How to deal with rebellion against COVID-19 safety rules

  • You’ve been doing everything you can to keep those under your roof safe for well over a year.
    • Your child has been on board for the most part.
    • But one thing is inevitable.
    • They’re going to have friends who are still living in 2019 — no masks, no social distancing and no regard for COVID-19 whatsoever.
    • What do you do if your child starts challenging the rules?
  • Dr. Jensen suggests helping them understand that staying safe is not just about them, but it’s also about all the other people who they care about.
    • “Talk to your child about what you believe and where the family as a whole stands.
    • Don’t just talk about the risks to them.
    • Talk about the risks of spreading COVID-19 to those around you.”
  • “You could say something like ‘You know it’s important to our family to stay safe for all kinds of reasons, but more importantly, you have grandma to think about, your dad and your sister.’
    • For teens and tweens, it comes down to helping them realize that right now is not the time to just focus on themselves.
    • This is difficult because these age groups can be self-focused.
    • They also can be easily influenced by their peers.
    • But again, you want to encourage them to make the best choices for themselves and your family, especially when you’re not around,” she says.

And if the going gets tough, get help

  • Raising kids during a pandemic hasn’t been easy on anyone.
    • When parents try to push through the tough times or troubleshoot everything on their own, the process can be even more challenging — and draining.
    • Instead of going it alone, Dr. Jensen advises reaching out to the people in your child’s orbit.
    • This includes teachers, coaches, their pediatrician and even the school counselor.
    • She also recommends taking care of yourself first and foremost.
  • “You’re not going to be any good to your kids if you aren’t taking care of yourself, and you’re the biggest role model your kids have.
    • We all think that kids look to their peers for role models, but they do rely on their parents for the big things.
    • So, the best role model you can be is the person who takes care of themselves and then takes care of their kids,” she says.
  • If you have questions about how your child is doing, try talking to their teachers, coaches, scout leader and other important people in their life.
    • Ask what they are seeing. Then, talk to your child.
      • “If things are beyond your control, reach out to your pediatrician’s office for referrals.
      • Your child’s guidance counselor can also make referrals if you need more help.”

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welcome to insights into teens a podcast

series exploring the issues and

challenges of today's youth your hosts

are joseph and madison whalen a father

and daughter team making their way

through the challenges of the teenage

years

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welcome to insights into teens this is

episode

return to school during covid i'm your

host joseph whalen

and my grateful and cheerful co-host

madison whalen hi everyone how you doing

today manny

i'm doing all right how about you i'm

doing okay how was your week this week

it's been all right

boring

i could tell because every time i talk

to you

over the phone from work you seem to be

very bored

um

well

you gotta you know

enjoy it while it lasts you know that's

right you'll be going back to school

soon hence the reason for this podcast

yeah

so it's about that time for kids to head

back to school we thought that covid was

just going to be a bad memory by now but

it seems it's here to stay for a while

longer

so how do your kids feel about going

back to school in the time of covid

how do you as a parent feel and how can

we make the most of the situation while

still trying to keep our family safe and

mitigate any anxiety we might have under

the current climate

that's our topic today

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so returning the school during covid

so the research for this

topic comes from the cleveland clinic

they say after the challenges of last

year kids finally get to be kids again

this upcoming school year

means being reunited with friends having

some sort of regular schedule again and

finally having the chance to show off

those new clothes backpacks and clever

school supplies

good for them and good for the parents

right

while there are still concerns about

keeping kids safe from the latest

covid variants at least parents won't

have to worry about teaching common core

math or listening to lessons in between

conference calls

unfortunately some kids might be a

little apprehensive about going back

for them home meant a safe haven

from several stressors that they faced

at school

on the other hand kids who are excited

about returning to the classroom will

now have to adjust to learning with

covid protocols in place

either way the transition back to school

might be a little stressful for your

child

so let's stop right there for a second

and let me ask you how do you feel about

going back to school because

all of last year

and the second half of the year before

you were at home

schooling at home

so how do you feel about going back to

school in person

i probably would feel a little better if

i wasn't going into my freshman year of

high school yeah

yeah that does complicate things doesn't

it

yeah like not only is it a transition to

an entire school but

freshman year is a lot different than

seventh and eighth grade and

a lot of changes are going to take place

there

you're right and just in general there's

changes but i think they're good changes

and i think you'll be able to cope with

them but do you have any anxiety about

covid and being around other people

i mean yeah i haven't really been around

people that much

in the past year and

i am going and while i am vaccinated um

i'm still

i still have like

anxiety of people in a way

um i know i used to be like socially

awkward when i was fir when before it

even happened and now it's kind of

started growing

to the point where i'm kind of afraid to

be around people physically yeah and i

think a lot of people are getting to

that point and

it's one of those things we're going to

have to learn to deal with for a little

while longer yeah and it's a pretty

scary thing when mommy the most

extroverted person out of all of us

is afraid to talk to people and doesn't

really want to be bothered at work yeah

well

you're right you know it's it's an

adjustment

so

they do talk about change they say why

good change can also be stressful

in general going back to school is a big

change

it's a whole new setting especially for

kids who are going either from

elementary school to middle school

or like you from middle school to high

school says pediatric psychologist

vanessa jensen

it's a whole new world and all of a

sudden they're expected to know what

they're doing

it's a huge shift from being in their

little space at home to now being in the

in the in this world of back to

school so

how do you recognize when your child is

having a tough time

if you're not sure if your child is

having a hard time with the transition

back to school think about how they

normally act when they're stressed and

look for those behaviors for example if

your child gets headaches or stomach

aches when they're anxious you'll know

that school is stressing them out should

they start having them more frequently

we tend to go toward behavior

we tend to go towards certain behaviors

when we're stressed my suggestion is for

parents to think about what their child

does when they get stressed in a new

situation she says

think about the behaviors that they

usually revert to

whether it's hiding in the background of

a small group or acting out and trying

to be the funny kid

once you recognize what they tend to do

under stress that's probably what you're

going to see as they enter into a new

situation so what do you think are some

of your stressor signs that that are

kind of tell that you're a little

freaked out

um

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let's see um

you do have breakdowns yeah breakdowns

are probably the biggest thing but

that's kind of an obvious sign

right i mean everyone who has breakdowns

is kind of an obvious sign but

do you feel physically ill do you get

stomachaches do you get headaches

um

sometimes i have a harder time breathing

because i feel like i somewhat

hyperventilate sometimes whenever i'm

stressed so that's probably

kind of one of the physical attributes i

kind of associate myself with whenever i

feel anxious i can see that

um

there are some points where i get

headaches typically

to the point if i do have a freakout

sometimes

afterwards if it was really bad i would

have a headache yeah

see for me when i when i'm freaked out

usually i'll talk more

or i'll try to make more jokes and it's

all an attempt to try to calm myself

down

like this happens a lot of doctors

appointments you know because i get

freaked out going to the doctor

so i'll try to crack jokes i'll try to

you know lighten the mood a little bit

i'll try to have conversations change

the subject that type of thing so

anytime i'm doing that i know i'm

starting to

have a little bit of anxiety you know

um there are some other attributes i

think i might kind of associate myself

with

uh one would probably

will probably be like the opposite of

what you're doing and it's like i kind

of stay silent right you pull you pull

back into yourself there and and try to

like

extricate yourself from the situation

yeah yeah um i'd also sometimes like

fiddle with my hands or do something to

distract myself

and a lot of people do that sort of that

nervous twitch type thing

yeah

so we're gonna have to keep an eye on

these things you know

i think there's a certain anxiety for

all of us i'm

i was dead set against you going back to

school last year because of how bad

things were

i i don't know if things are much better

now so i'm not

thrilled about you going back to school

the fact that you do have

the you did get the vaccine and you're

fully vaccinated

helps to alleviate a lot of that anxiety

for me

i also want to see what kind of

protocols they're doing at school what

kind of cleaning they're doing are they

you know they they're going back and

forth on mask mandates today

i understand there is a mask mandate for

schools

so that makes me feel better that

everyone's going to be wearing masks but

they're not always going to be wearing

masks and who's going to be enforcing

that and

you know

i want to i want to get a report from

you as to

what the school's doing and whether or

not you feel comfortable at the school

with the protocols that you're taking

and then we'll go from there okay i'll

try taking note of that okay

so uh we're gonna take a quick break

we're gonna come back and we're gonna

talk about helping teens make the

adjustments we'll be right back

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welcome back to insights into teens

today we're talking about returning to

school during covid

so we're going to talk a little bit

about helping teens make the adjustment

as parents we remember our teenage years

some of us were wild and loud

some of us were shy and quiet but

regardless of our personalities

most of us probably kept our crutches

our craziness and our challenging times

under wraps

dr jensen advises us to keep that in

mind when it comes to teens

while it's natural to want to know every

single thing that's going on in your

teen's life

crying or being overbearing will only

make things worse

if your child has been able to handle

things in general give them some space

but if you're worried

you can always say things like you seem

a little stressed you know i'm around

or have you talked to your friends

and if they have talked to their friends

you can always follow up with

well you want to talk to me i'm here

she calls this her raindrop theory

basically this is dropping little hints

that your child can reach out to you

should things become unbearable

dr jensen explains

you just put the little raindrops out

there by saying you know i'm around or

i'm going to be in my study if you want

to talk

you put those little hints out there and

kids will reach out when they feel

comfortable she says

reassure them gently and gradually

if you overwhelm your child with

questions and i compared this to

throwing buckets of water on them

they're going to think whoa i'm not

going there

so give them some space

they know you're there just keep

reassuring them that if things get bad

you'll be there for them

now we all know that some kids think

their parents will never be able to

relate to their teenage struggles

in cases like these a cool aunt or uncle

can help

dr jensen says that you can sprinkle the

raindrops in the direction of another

adult that you and your teen trust

so that

so they are encouraged to reach out to

someone if they are having a tough time

give them some room and let the

raindrops flow

let your teen know that you are

available to talk but if they're not

comfortable with you for whatever reason

make sure they do have someone to talk

to

you could say aunt susan is a good

person to talk to or uncle john asks

asks about you all the time

this can create little trails to other

people when your child is kind of quiet

to you

so how do you deal with this stuff i

know you

you talk to mommy and i and i think we

pretty much have

an open line of communication

are there things that you don't talk to

mommy and daddy

about and you don't go into specifics

obviously if you're not comfortable

well i can think of one specific example

i mean i've tried talking to you guys

about it

uh

but

uh it's not the easiest topic for me to

discuss with you guys do you have

someone that you can talk to about it i

actually talked to um

and chris about this okay when we went

to visit her so so so you do have an

outlet for it at least yeah did you find

that helpful

yeah i did okay

now do you have an chris's contact

information if you want to talk to her

any other time yeah i do i have her own

facebook messenger so i can probably

message her if i do need help with it

okay well that's good so you at least

have that outlet there that you can go

to

are there

friends of yours that you think might

not have someone else that they can talk

to or do they not feel comfortable

talking to their parents about certain

things

i could kind of say it in one of my

friends maybe not being able to talk to

their

parents about certain things um and thus

they kind of bring it to me

so you are you are one of those outlets

that they can talk to then i think so

yeah and they talk to you in confidence

then

mostly yeah that's good

i think it's important you know we had

talked about this last week with

feeling like a burden and the

therapeutic value of just being able to

talk about things

but

who you talk to about those things can

be very important

some people you you don't feel

comfortable talking about with certain

subjects and i can totally understand

that

but that doesn't mean you don't talk

about those subjects that just means you

kind of have to find someone that you

can talk to about them yeah so what

prompted you to talk to and chris about

the subject

um

i kind of felt like she could

do she had much more knowledge on the

subject than i think you guys did okay

for the most part at least well that's

that's a brilliant reason for going to

someone else if they're a subject matter

expert on it yeah

and if if it was helpful then you made

the right decision

do you advise your friends

to talk to other people about any of the

issues that they're running into

um i have been trying to mention to them

um if they do have issues

um they can always talk to me or someone

else if they do have problems so i've

kind of been steering them in that

direction

now

when you were in you're obviously going

into high school now in your middle

school

did the teachers or your counselors make

themselves available to have these kinds

of discussions or were they kind of

distant i mean i remember that uh

the counselor had actually

um set up various appointments um with

all the kids kind of like

she'd like ask us questions about stuff

and kind of get our opinions on

everything and was always like if you

ever need me i'm here so

i definitely think we had a pretty

supportive guidance yeah can you loan me

bucks

daddy really

well you have to understand when i was

in school my guidance counselor was

almost non-existent

you know i think i talked in because we

i was in the same school for six years

with the same guidance counselor i

started in seventh grade

and

in

six years i think i may have seen them

twice once when i got there and then

once when they set up some appointment

because really all our guidance

counselors did was tell us what we

needed to do to get into college and

where to take the test and stuff like

that

they really weren't there to provide

much in the way of life guidance

how your counselor is done with that

honestly when i had actually gone to the

um office the one time i had actually

seen like a message where it's like

everything they talk about in the room

stays between basically stays in the

room unless it's harmful to you or

someone else which makes sense because

then they're legally obligated to get

someone else involved

like for instance if it's self-harm

suicide thought something like that they

then have to bring in a professional

yeah for stuff like that

so have you ever thought to go to your

counselor with any of the issues that

you feel you need to talk about

i mean i probably should have but

um most of the issues kind of came up

during covet and i was never really in

the building

okay i mean i could have probably like

scheduled a conference call which i kind

of did the one time but it was mainly

the schedule stuff right right i

remember that

but i don't think i've ever really

talked my issues about

okay i just i don't know i just never

really felt i needed to right

i understand again if they're not the

right person that you feel comfortable

with

you know even though it's their job then

they're not the right person because

whether it's their job or not

you ultimately need to be comfortable

with it

do you feel you have an outlet now that

you can go to or that you have options

if you have something you need to talk

about

uh yeah i do okay you know aunt chris

you my friends that kind of stuff good

it's important to have those options

available to you i don't ever want you

to feel

you know if there's an issue you're not

comfortable talking to us about and you

don't have someone

let us know that you have an issue

and we can help you find somebody okay

so do you have any issues that you want

to talk about regarding going back to

school during

covid

i mean

i have a ton of issues going back to

school

and i know i'm not talking about the

ones in general i'm just talking about

anything that's specific to covert

like do you feel safe going back to

school

not

necessarily for the most part okay i

think you're kind of in the same boat

that that i'm in with you going back to

school yeah it's one of these things

that

we need to see how they're handling it

the state of new jersey is

mandating some of these protocols now

which

makes me feel a little bit better

but how the school's implementing those

is really what it's going to come down

to yeah

so i think we kind of have to try it

give it a shot

and see where we're at

and

you know if after a few days when we've

seen all the classrooms and we

see what the protocols are like and how

serious the school's taking them

we can make a determination of whether

or not we feel safe or not there okay

and if we don't we'll see what our other

options are

because if you don't feel safe i'm not

going to feel safe with you going and

i'm not going to have you you know going

five days a week into an environment

that you're not safe in

so we'll cross that bridge when we get

to it but we have to get in there and

see what the practices are like right

off the bat

so we're going to take another break

we're going to come back and we're going

to talk about dealing with rebellion

against covid rules because we seem to

be seeing a lot of that in the media

lately

we'll be right back

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welcome back to insights into teens

today we're talking about returning to

school during covet

and today and

and now

we're going to talk about how to deal

with rebellion against coven safety

rules you rebel scum oh my god

why did i not see that coming

anyway

you've been doing everything you can to

keep those under your roof safe for well

over a year

your child has been on board for most

for the most part

well one thing is inevitable

thanos

look if you make those references hey go

right ahead

pop culture references are welcome in

this podcast okay

they're going to have friends who are

still living in no masks no social

distancing and no regard for copin

whatsoever

what do you do if your child starts

challenging the rules

dr jensen suggests helping them

understand that staying safe is not just

about them but it's also about all the

people

all the other people who they care about

talk to your child about what you

believe and where the family as a whole

stands

don't just talk about the risks to them

talk about the risks of spreading cover

to those around you you could say

something like you know it's important

to our family to stay safe for all kinds

of reasons but more importantly you have

grandma to think about your dad and your

sister

for teens and tweens it comes down to

helping them realize that right now is

not the time to just focus on themselves

this is difficult because these age

groups can be self-focused

they also can be easily influenced by

their peers but again you want to

encourage them to make the best choices

for themselves and your family

especially when you're not around she

says

and if the going gets tough and the

going has been tough for over a year now

you gotta get help

raising kids during a pandemic hasn't

been easy on anyone

when parents try to push through the

tough times or troubleshoot everything

on their own

the process can be even more challenging

and draining

instead of going it alone

dr jensen advises reaching out to the

people in your children's orbit

this includes teachers coaches their

pediatrician and even the school

counselor like we talked about

she also recommends taking care of

yourself first and foremost

you're not going to be any good to your

kids if you aren't taking care of

yourself

and you're the biggest role model your

kids have we all think that kids look to

their peers for role models

but they do rely on their parents for

the big things

so the best role model you can be is the

person who takes care of themselves and

then takes care of their kids she says

and if you have questions about how your

child's doing try talking to their

teachers coaches

scout leader and other important people

in their life

ask what they're saying

then talk to your child

if things are beyond your control reach

out to your pediatrician's office for

referrals

your guidance counselor can also make

referrals for you

if you need more help

so with that in mind

how do you

have have you run into

people

i i mean you haven't run into a lot of

people at all none of us have but

have you encountered people that are

rebelling against the covet protocols

i mean the good thing is i don't think

any of my friends are rebelling against

it which is good right so absolutely

um

but i'm pretty sure at some point i will

encounter people who are rebelling

against it

um and

well that'll be fun i guess how you've

been going out of the house for for

marching band now how has marching band

been handling because i think that's

probably

the best barometer we have right now

with how school's going to be how how

have you felt with marching band

i thought all right we always you know

keep our distance and now there's a

mandate wherever whenever we're inside

we wear masks and people have been doing

that now you weren't doing that before

the state mandate though right

uh no but i would typically kind of stay

away

people were kind of spread out for the

most part so it was still kind of all

right okay

so

before that mask mandate

was there a large majority of people

that were voluntarily wearing masks

because i know we were sending you with

one

i know it's kind of hard to wear a mask

when you when you're playing a musical

instrument that you have to blow into i

did see one or two people who um would

wear masks whenever they were around

and that's kind of what i run into at

work most of the people that i have at

work don't don't wear masks

uh they don't really worry too much

about social distancing they kind of did

last year

where

you know we the company itself forced

people to spread out at the lunchroom we

staggered our lunch hours

so we kind of forced

that extra caution

and i don't know i guess when the state

lifted some of its requirements

we we kind of laxed off on some of that

stuff

right now i'm probably the only person

in the front office who

wears a mask i don't wear it while i'm

in my office

because you know i have my own office i

have two air filters

that pretty much cycle the air in my

office every minutes or so

so i'm very comfortable in my office

with clean air but anytime i step out of

my office

the mask goes on

but i don't see anybody else in the

office that wear masks when they're

moving around so that's kind of

discouraging for me

uh what about in school because you've

been going into the school itself for

marching band stuff have they had like

barriers up and hand sanitizer and the

normal stuff you would expect

um

i haven't seen any barriers pretty sure

there are um hand sanitizers in certain

rooms we haven't really been like

staying in the areas but i do remember

there was

a summer school and one time during band

camp we ended up passing them and i um

didn't really see anyone wearing a mask

no did you see that they were spread out

in the classroom at least

uh

i never really got a glimpse of them

inherently in the classroom okay um i

haven't really been able to see much of

the protocol going on so we're gonna

have to wait until you start school how

about when we go out in public do you

notice

whether people are wearing masks or

distancing and stuff

yep and for the most part wherever we go

people are wearing masks or at least

they're distancing themselves from each

other and when we are

highly restricted in where we go when we

go and

you know we wind up something we go out

to eat for instance

and we're if we walk into a restaurant

that's very crowded and obviously not

adhering to any rules

we'll turn around and walk out yeah

so any restaurants that we stay at we

make sure that they're seating people in

safe distances and so forth

what else have you done outside of the

house we've done

kind of our mini vacation our day trip

vacation

uh you've gone shopping right

how have people been at the supermarket

and stuff

they've been all right um people there

have been a decent amount of people

wearing masks people are still

social distancing and the last time we

actually went to bj's for the first time

like

people used to just line up and then

like when someone was done at the um

right at the like self checkout register

the other person another person would go

and like we were all distancing

themselves and the last time we went it

was the first time where people like

actually got in line again right behind

the registers which was kind of a

strange change that i kind of had to get

used to i guess so were they at least

distancing themselves in the red at the

registers or no uh i

sort of

okay uh not as much as before but they

still seemed like they were somewhat

distancing how do you feel about the

safety rules of covert are you going to

continue to wear a mask even if it's not

mandated yeah probably

and you're okay with the social

distancing and all that stuff i mean

yeah it's kind of

made me want to kind of stay away from

people for the most part which may or

may not be a good thing

now have you been going out of the house

and playing with any of the kids in the

neighborhood

no not really okay so so you're still

maintaining that strict level of

covert protocol now

yeah how do you think that's affected

you though

you think being in the house so much has

had a negative effect on you i mean the

fact that i used to just be like

anti-social before and now

kind of not even wanting to meet people

in person at this point that's probably

the main negative side effect that i've

kind of gotten so it kind of drove that

anti-social

side of you then to the point where i

was

where now i'm actually kind of afraid of

people and

i i kind of have a phobia of people in a

way so you don't you don't have like

mommy for instance mommy mommy's kind of

itching to get back to things because of

that that extrovert that she is

and i i think the protocols while she's

doing a very good job adhering to him i

think the protocols

chafe on people like mommy who need to

have that social interaction

it's it's caused

cancellations of a lot of the things

that she wants to do and she enjoys

doing

and a lot of the things that she does

are those support things that she needs

and she hasn't been able to get that so

i

i think that's been

been a problem for mommy have you had

anything like that where

you've wanted to do something but you

can't and it's caused some consternation

i mean it used to be not being able to

see my friends and now i've kind of

learned to realize that and now i'm

really only like speaking with my

friends on the phone or the one actual

time i was able to socialize where we

were like

like almost a block away from each other

just screaming yeah

but you are still socializing with your

friends through technology at this point

you're not completely isolating yourself

i mean yeah that's good well and that's

i think that's kind of been our savior

during this whole ordeal has been

technology you know a lot of people have

taken advantage of technology to keep

those

zoom calls going and the phone calls and

facetime and you know all the stuff that

that people have used to keep in touch

it hasn't been an adequate um

alternative

but i think it's it's one of those

things where you're making the most out

of a bad situation yeah

so i think that was all we had today

we're gonna take a quick break come back

we'll get your closing remarks and

finish up with the podcast business

alrighty all right

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go for your closing remarks

alrighty so to

all of the teens and parents out there

going back to school during covet is

going to be hard on pretty much everyone

whether it be just having to go back to

school after pretty much not having a

year of school last year

or just having to deal with the covert

protocols and everything like that

no matter what the reason it's going to

probably be stressful on any on everyone

and

well

we'll get through it we've so far gone

through

almost an entire year of this we'll

probably be able to get through the rest

of it kobed will probably be around for

a while but

it is getting better and

if you are

feeling these

if you if your child does have these

anxious thoughts make sure they have a

good support

system and make sure they're also

following covert rules so that

cover can be over sooner rather than

later okay and we're all wishing for

that that's for sure

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