Church Leadership Lab: Recent Episodes

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Church Leadership Lab is a podcast that exists to help church leaders cultivate healthy churches. Through conversations, interviews, and stories, we explore what's happening in ministry today and how pastors and leaders can navigate what lies ahead.

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In this episode, we sit down with Kristen Foster, Manager of Client Adoption at Ministry Brands. With a background in worship ministry and church operations, she has a passion for helping leaders maximize technology to support their causes.

We explore how to build a giving campaign that truly connects with people and supports your church’s mission.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Defining a healthy church giving campaign
  • Creating a compelling vision and “why”
  • Aligning financial goals with ministry impact
  • Communicating transparently to build trust
  • Leveraging technology for effective giving
  • The power of stories in generosity

Join us as we dive into How to Build a Giving Campaign People Believe In with Kristen Foster.

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In this episode, we sit down with Phil Bowdle, longtime creative arts leader, bestselling author, church leadership coach, and Vice President of Marketing at Slingshot Group.

We explore how better communication unlocks alignment, clarity, and health within church teams.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The impact of internal vs. external communication
  • Building alignment around purpose, not preference
  • How team size shapes communication challenges
  • Embracing healthy conflict in church culture
  • Clarity, meetings, and team roles in practice
  • Caring for team members as individuals

Join us as we dive into How Better Communication Builds Healthier Church Teams with Phil Bowdle.

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In this episode, we sit down with Mike Seay, worship leader, author, and cofounder of Multiply Group, helping churches develop healthy leaders and cultivate thriving worship communities.

We talk about keeping worship central in every area of ministry, exploring both the heart and the practical steps leaders can take.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Defining worship beyond just music.
  • Building worship communities, not just teams.
  • Practical routines for ministry excellence.
  • Multiplying leaders and investing in people.
  • Making worship a daily lifestyle.
  • Encouraging private and corporate worship.

Join us as we dive into Keeping Worship Central in Every Area of Ministry with Mike Seay.

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In this episode, hosts Kendall Conner and Jess Moore share 25 creative fall event ideas designed to help churches connect with their communities, engage families, and build stronger relationships within the church.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Community-focused events that create meaningful connections
  • Fun activities for families, children, and students
  • Ideas that strengthen relationships within your church
  • Creative ways to use the fall season as a ministry opportunity
  • Simple, budget-friendly events that are easy to plan

Join us as we explore some of the best fall events your church can try this season.

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In this episode, we sit down with Tyler Harden, church growth consultant and co-founder of Firm Foundations Marketing.

We explore what growing churches have in common and the practical patterns that drive healthy, sustainable growth.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Defining genuine church growth beyond numbers
  • Designing a guest experience, not just atmosphere
  • Maintaining an external, community-focused culture
  • Using clear vision as a filter for decisions
  • Addressing plateaus with actionable next steps

Join us as we dive into What Growing Churches Have in Common with Tyler Harden.

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In this episode, we sit down with Carl Barnhill, creative entrepreneur, motion designer, author, and founder of Church Visuals.

We explore the power of visual media, church marketing, and essential strategies for the future of ministry communication.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The purpose behind church visuals
  • Balancing excellence and authenticity
  • Using visuals for discipleship and outreach
  • Social media best practices for churches
  • Leveraging AI as a ministry tool
  • Tips for resource-limited church teams

Join us as we dive into Visual Media, Church Marketing, and the Future of Ministry Communication with Carl Barnhill.

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In this episode, Kendall Conner and Jess Moore offer practical encouragement for ministry leaders who want to create thriving volunteer teams.

They dive into actionable strategies and heart-level insights to help you keep church volunteers engaged, energized, and excited to serve—no matter the season.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Helping volunteers see purpose in their roles
  • Recruiting through invitation, not pressure
  • Making it easy to take first steps
  • Training volunteers for confidence and clarity
  • Building genuine community among teams
  • Preventing burnout and sustaining momentum

Join us as we dive into Tips for Keeping Volunteers Engaged and Excited to Serve with Kendall Conner & Jess Moore.

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In this episode, we sit down with Mark Lebrun, founder of Digital Influencer Co and trusted voice helping leaders and organizations grow their online influence.

We explore redefining digital influence for ministry leaders and how churches can leverage technology for greater impact.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Reaching people beyond church walls
  • Building authentic digital influence
  • Practical first steps for ministry leaders
  • Meeting real needs through online platforms
  • Using AI as a digital ministry assistant

Join us as we dive into Redefining Digital Influence for Ministry Leaders with Mark Lebrun.

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In this episode, we sit down with Kira Brown, senior product leader at Ministry Brands, church software expert, and children's director at her local church. We explore how AI can support ministry work without sacrificing authentic, personal connection.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Benefits and challenges of AI in ministry
  • Keeping the human touch in church tech
  • Ways AI can extend sermon impact
  • Ideas for healthy rhythms using technology
  • Using "Amplify Equip" to streamline ministry tasks

Join us as we dive into How to Use AI in Ministry Without Losing the Human Touch with Kira Brown.

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In this episode, we sit down with Chip Pugh, chaplain for the Tennessee Titans, discipleship trainer, founder of Be1Mk1, and author.

We explore how everyday people can be equipped to live on mission and make a tangible impact in their communities.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Chip’s journey from athlete to chaplain
  • The heart behind Be One, Make One
  • Practical discipleship in everyday life
  • Understanding and speaking your God-given purpose
  • Overcoming intimidation in disciple-making
  • Focusing on impacting one person at a time

Join us as we dive into Equipping Everyday People to Live on Mission with Chip Pugh.

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In this episode, we sit down with Mac Lake, experienced church planter, leadership development expert, founder of Multiply Group, and author.

We explore how intentional leadership development can multiply ministry leaders and create lasting impact within churches.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Building a leadership development pipeline
  • The importance of relational investment
  • Distinguishing leadership placement from development
  • Traits to look for in emerging leaders
  • Practical frameworks for multiplying leaders
  • Focusing on discipleship as the core strategy

Join us as we dive into Developing Ministry Leaders Who Multiply with Mac Lake.

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In this episode, Kendall Conner and Jess Moore recap our recent Healthy Church Summit and some of the key takeaways from keynotes by Pastor Arthur James and Dr. Jason Young.

We reflect on key insights and actionable strategies focused on helping leaders avoid burnout and foster healthy ministry cultures.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Practical strategies to prevent ministry burnout
  • The importance of margin and Sabbath rest
  • Overcoming "superhero syndrome" in leadership
  • Building strong, supportive ministry teams
  • Culture-building through gratitude and shared responsibility
  • Leveraging technology for ministry effectiveness

Join us as we dive into this Healthy Church Summit recap and learn more about beating burnout and fostering longterm ministry.

Watch the Healthy Church Summit on-demand now: HealthyChurchSummit.com

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In this episode, we sit down with Laura Howe, founder of Hope Made Strong, mental health clinician, and community development strategist.

We explore the realities of burnout, boundaries, and mental health for ministry leaders and share practical ways to foster resilience.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Pressures unique to ministry leadership
  • Recognizing and addressing compassion fatigue
  • The importance of vulnerability and sharing stories
  • Setting and maintaining healthy boundaries
  • Sustainable habits for emotional and spiritual health
  • Building restorative rhythms and community care

Join us as we dive into Burnout, Boundaries, and the Mental Health of Ministry Leaders with Laura Howe.

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Disclaimer:This episode is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not intended to diagnose, treat, or replace professional care or counseling. Kendall Conner, Jessica Moore, the Church Leadership Lab Podcast, and Ministry Brands are not mental health professionals. If you or someone you care about is struggling, please seek help from a qualified mental health provider.

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In this episode, we sit down with Daniel Hall, creative technologist and digital ministry strategist based in Chattanooga, Tennessee.

We explore how faith and technology intersect, and what church leaders need to know for the future of ministry.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Using tech for global ministry impact
  • Embracing new tools without fear
  • Engaging young leaders with innovation
  • Discernment between trends and true value
  • Building a culture of experimentation
  • Encouragement for leaders feeling behind

Join us as we dive into Faith, Technology, and the Future of Ministry with Daniel Hall.

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In this episode, we sit down with Nicole Wight, Senior Director of Product Marketing at Ministry Brands, who brings over a decade of experience in digital transformation. She’s passionate about helping churches use simple, accessible giving tools that better serve their congregation.

We dive into key insights from the 2026 Church Giving Report and strategies church leaders shouldn't ignore for fostering generosity.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Trends from the 2026 Annual Church Giving Report
  • The rise of digital giving in churches
  • Making generosity accessible and simple
  • The impact of recurring gifts for stability
  • Why talking about giving matters
  • Encouragement for leaders improving their giving efforts

Join us as we dive into Church Giving Insights Leaders Shouldn’t Ignore In 2026 with Nicole White.

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In this episode, we sit down with Toby Walters, founder of ChurchGear, author, podcast host, and church tech expert.

We explore how churches can balance using modern technology while preserving the sacred elements of worship spaces.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Common tech mistakes in churches
  • Creating distraction-free worship environments
  • Affordable production solutions for any budget
  • Blending sacred spaces with modern tech
  • Volunteer and staff encouragement in tech roles
  • Future trends in church technology

Join us as we dive into Balancing Modern Church Tech With Sacred Spaces with Toby Walters.

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In this episode, we sit down with Tim Stevens, long-time church leader, author, leadership coach, and host of the Leading Smart podcast.

We explore the long-term lessons learned from decades in ministry and what it takes to lead well for the long haul.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Starting with the end in mind
  • Prioritizing people over processes
  • The importance of calendar rhythms
  • Evolving leadership for changing teams
  • Navigating conflict constructively
  • Building healthy church leadership teams

Join us as we dive into Long-Term Leadership Lessons in Ministry with Tim Stevens.

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This week on the Church Leadership Lab podcast, we’re taking a break from our usual format to honor the significance of Holy Week.

As we pause to reflect on this sacred time, we’re reminded of the hope we have through Christ’s death and resurrection. And while this is one of the most meaningful weeks of the year, we also know it can be one of the busiest for ministry leaders.

With extra services, events, and expectations, it’s easy to move quickly through the week without slowing down to personally experience what we’re leading others through. So in the middle of it all, we want to encourage you to take a moment for yourself—to pause, reflect, and reconnect with God.

We believe this week isn’t just about what God wants to do through you, but what He wants to do in you.

From all of us at Church Leadership Lab and the team at Ministry Brands, thank you for your faithfulness in serving your church and community. We see you. We’re praying for you. And we’re grateful for your leadership in this powerful season.

Wishing you a Holy Week filled with peace, purpose, and the joy of resurrection.

We’ll return next week with more conversations to equip and encourage you in ministry—because the best is yet to come.

Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4bTEl6H

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In this episode, hosts Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore share a timely heart check for ministry leaders navigating the Easter season—helping you slow down, refocus, and lead well in the final stretch before Easter.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The pressure of Easter in church life
  • Prioritizing spiritual rest over busyness
  • Intentional time with God amid chaos
  • Serving from a healthy heart posture
  • Letting go of comparison in ministry
  • Leading others with grace under stress

Join us as we dive into How Ministry Leaders Can Rest & Refocus This Easter with Kendall Conner & Jessica Moore.

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In this episode, we sit down with Dustin Dozier, Teaching Pastor and Director of Next Steps at Upstate Church, coach, and author of the bestselling book "The Connected Church."

We explore practical ways to move newcomers from first-time guests to fully connected members, building genuine relationships and a stronger church community.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The difference between attending and belonging
  • Overcoming common connection gaps in churches
  • Creating clear next steps for newcomers
  • Innovative ideas for building community
  • The role of intentional follow-up processes

Join us as we dive into Moving Newcomers from Guests to Connected Members with Dustin Dozier.

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In this episode, we sit down with Mark MacDonald, a church branding strategist and founder of Be Known for Something.

We explore how churches can build a consistent communication rhythm that brings clarity to their messaging and helps them reach both their congregation and their community more effectively.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Reactive vs. intentional church communication
  • Why consistency builds trust
  • Moving beyond announcement culture
  • The "Pick It, Place It, Push It, Prove It" framework
  • Finding your church’s communication “thread”

Join us as we dive into practical strategies for building a consistent church communication rhythm with Mark MacDonald.

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In this episode, we sit down with Tara Banks, worship pastor at Seacoast Church, author, and worship consultant.

We explore what it takes to build a healthy worship team both on and off the stage, with practical insights for leaders at any church.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The heart behind healthy worship teams
  • Signs of unhealthy team culture
  • Staying spiritually connected as a leader
  • Importance of Sabbath for ministry longevity
  • Creating a culture of trust and clarity
  • Mutual respect between worship and senior leadership

Join us as we dive into Building a Healthy Worship Team On and Off the Stage with Tara Banks.

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In this episode, we sit down with Steve Fogg, Melbourne-based digital strategist, pastor, and online campus leader passionate about helping churches maximize their digital outreach.

We explore how churches can leverage digital tools to make a greater impact during Easter and beyond.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Key digital opportunities around Easter
  • Google search trends and church visibility
  • Setting up effective Google Business Profiles
  • Maximizing Google Ad Grants for churches
  • Using Facebook and Instagram for outreach
  • Optimizing church websites for new guests

Join us as we dive into Using Digital Outreach to Maximize Your Church’s Easter Impact with Steve Fogg.

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In this episode, hosts Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore explore practical strategies to prepare your church’s staff and volunteers for Easter, ensuring an impactful and joy-filled holiday weekend.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Early and positive Easter communication.
  • Setting clear expectations for teams.
  • Recruiting and onboarding new volunteers.
  • Balancing service and spiritual care.
  • Over-preparing for kids ministry needs.
  • Celebrating and supporting your team.

Join us as we dive into Tips to Prepare Your Church’s Staff and Volunteers for Easter with Kendall Conner & Jessica Moore.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jonathan Howell from the Ministry Brands team who has spent more than a decade working with churches and nonprofits to implement accounting systems and steward their finances well.

We explore practical tips for building healthy church accounting practices and overcoming common challenges.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The unique needs of church accounting
  • Overcoming intimidation around church finances
  • The pitfalls of relying on Excel
  • Creating clarity in financial reporting
  • Building trust through financial transparency

Join us as we dive into Practical Tips for Healthy Church Accounting with Jonathan Howell.

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Disclaimer: The information shared in this episode is for educational and informational purposes only. It is not intended as legal, tax, or accounting advice. Every church, ministry, and nonprofit's situation is unique, so we encourage you to consult your own accountant, tax professional, or legal advisor before making any financial or legal decisions.

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In this episode, we sit down with Brad Lomenick, leadership strategist, author of H3 Leadership, and former president of the Catalyst Conference.

We explore practical habits that help leaders become transformational and cultivate healthy church environments.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Building leadership one habit at a time
  • The importance of humility, hunger, and hustle
  • Self-awareness and team dynamics
  • Creating healthy rhythms versus balance
  • Staying curious as a leader
  • Developing credibility through execution

Join us as we dive into Becoming a Transformational Leader One Habit at a Time with Brad Lomenick.

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In this episode, we sit down with Ben Stapley, executive pastor, speaker, creative director, and church consultant with over 20 years of experience in leadership and communication.

We explore practical strategies for planning a memorable Easter church service that truly connects with the community.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Welcoming first-time Easter guests
  • Selecting impactful worship music
  • Sharing compelling stories and testimonies
  • Engaging families and children at Easter
  • Fostering an invite culture in churches

Join us as we dive into Planning A Memorable Easter Church Service for Your Community with Ben Stapley.

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In this episode, we sit down with Greg Atkinson, entrepreneur, best-selling author, and church secret shopper with 30 years of experience in organizational leadership.

We explore proven strategies for how churches can reach and keep first-time guests, moving them from visitors to engaged members.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The importance of a welcoming guest experience
  • Secret shopper insights for church improvement
  • Practical tips for guest follow-up and assimilation
  • Digital tools to connect with newcomers
  • The impact of intentionality on church growth
  • Creating a culture of kindness and hospitality

Join us as we dive into How Churches Can Reach and Keep First-Time Guests with Greg Atkinson.

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In this episode, we sit down with Nicole Lucas, creative arts pastor, leadership coach, and founder of The Creative Level.

We explore why clarity is essential for healthy church staffs and teams, and practical ways leaders can foster clear communication and thriving cultures.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Why clarity matters for church teams
  • Spotting and fixing misalignment issues
  • The role of language in shaping culture
  • Building healthy communication habits
  • Managing creative and tech teams effectively
  • Practical steps for planning worship services

Join us as we dive into How to Bring Clarity to Your Church Staff and Teams with Nicole Lucas.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jason Young, leadership consultant, executive coach, speaker, professor, and author with over 25 years of experience helping organizations and churches build thriving, people-first cultures.

We explore the essential elements of creating a healthy volunteer culture that attracts and retains leaders in the church.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Motivating volunteers beyond tasks
  • Creating magnetic and joyful team environments
  • Designing impactful first serve experiences
  • Effective volunteer training strategies
  • Retaining volunteers and preventing burnout
  • Prioritizing people over roles

Join us as we dive into Building a Healthy Volunteer Culture That Attracts and Retains Leaders with Jason Young.

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In this episode, hosts Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore explore essential healthy habits for ministry leaders as they look ahead to a new year.

The conversation focuses on simple, sustainable rhythms that help leaders stay grounded, avoid burnout, and lead with greater health – spiritually, relationally, and emotionally – in every season of ministry.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Building a sustainable devotional rhythm
  • The importance of honest, life-giving friendships
  • Stewarding your physical health intentionally
  • Prioritizing family in your leadership life
  • Using technology to lighten your workload
  • Finding mentors and investing in younger leaders

Join us as we dive into Healthy Habits For Ministry Leaders with Kendall Conner & Jessica Moore.

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This week, we’re pressing pause on our regular Church Leadership Lab episodes to share something a little different. Our hosts, Kendall Conner and Jess Moore, have a short, meaningful Christmas message just for our podcast community.

This time of year is filled with celebration, reflection, and a powerful reminder of the hope we have in Christ. For ministry leaders, it also comes with extra services, long nights, and full schedules. As you guide your church through the Christmas season, we encourage you to pause, breathe, and make space to personally encounter the joy and peace this season represents. God is moving through your leadership—but He also wants to connect with you.

Take a moment to listen to this special Christmas message, then get ready for us to jump back into another great episode next week.

Plus, we share a preview of what’s ahead as we close out the year and step into a new one!

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In this episode, we sit down with Dennis Choy, executive coach, speaker, and General Manager of Design and Project Management at HouseRight. He brings over 30 years of ministry experience, including leadership roles at Saddleback Church, Skyline Church, and North Coast Church, where he helped build teams, departments, and leaders for long-term impact.

We explore practical strategies for building and sustaining strong tech volunteer teams, especially for the long haul.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Building a healthy tech volunteer culture
  • Screening and placing volunteers effectively
  • Addressing burnout and team longevity
  • Spiritual check-ins for volunteers
  • Keys to fostering healthy church teams

Join us as we dive into Strategies to Keep Tech Volunteers for the Long Haul with Dennis Choy.

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In this episode, we sit down with Adam Erickson, filmmaker, church storyteller, educator, and founder of Smartphone Storytellers, a free platform training churches and nonprofits to share stories with just a smartphone.

We explore how churches can build a culture of digital storytelling to highlight real-life impact and encourage healthy ministry growth.

In this conversation, we discuss:

• Why stories matter in church settings
• Overcoming barriers to effective storytelling
• Practical tips for smartphone video creation
• Finding and mining great individual stories
• Building volunteer teams for storytelling
• Embracing imperfection in sharing testimonies

Join us as we dive into Building a Culture of Digital Storytelling in the Church with Adam Erickson.

Show Notes: https://bit.ly/4iSdGKH

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In this episode, we sit down with Arthur James, seasoned educator, bi-vocational pastor, church planter, and author of "Preaching Through Pain."

We unpack practical ways church leaders can avoid burnout during busy ministry seasons and find renewed purpose and strength.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• Finding balance versus busyness in ministry
• Leading from a place of overflow
• Delegating and equipping others for ministry
• Healthy rhythms for pastors and leaders
• The role of physical and spiritual health
• Embracing technology without burnout

Join us as we dive into How Church Leaders Can Avoid Burnout in a Busy Ministry Season with Arthur James.

Show Notes: https://bit.ly/3XxpAj7

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This week, we are pressing pause on our regular Church Leadership Lab episodes to share something a little different. Hosts, Kendall Conner and Jess Moore recorded a short, meaningful Thanksgiving message just for our podcast community.

We know this season brings full tables, full schedules, and full hearts. Ministry leaders, as you serve your church and gather with family, remember to slow down and let your own soul be renewed. God is at work through you, but He is also at work in you.

Take a moment to listen to this special Thanksgiving message, then get ready for us to jump back into another great episode next week.

Bonus: We even share a few recommended episodes to check out while you rest!

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In this episode, we sit down with Bill Van Kirk, Campus Pastor at Spring Lake Church, digital communications leader, and certified ministry coach.

We explore practical ways churches can build a digital ministry strategy that connects people beyond Sunday.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Why your website is a digital front door
  • Using technology for discipleship all week
  • Repurposing sermons into weekday devotionals
  • Leveraging stories and testimonies online
  • Building a team for digital ministry

Join us as we dive into How to Build a Digital Strategy That Reaches Beyond Sunday with Bill Van Kirk.

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In this episode, we sit down with Joanna la Fleur, podcaster, TV host, and executive director of Word Made Digital.

We explore how churches can tell better stories with limited resources and make the Good News compelling in the digital age.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• Storytelling that fits church budgets
• Authentic content for younger generations
• Proven digital tools and practical tips
• Collecting and sharing impactful church stories
• Measuring success in local church outreach

Join us as we dive into How Churches Can Tell Better Stories with Limited Resources with Joanna la Fleur.

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In this episode, we sit down with Preston Hocker, a pastor of 20+ years and experienced protection specialist.

We explore how churches can prioritize safety while maintaining a welcoming and inviting atmosphere.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• Building a safety-minded church culture
• Practical steps for church security teams
• Best practices for creating safe environments
• Technology for kids ministry safety
• Training staff and volunteers effectively

Join us as we dive into How Churches Can Prioritize Safety While Staying Inviting with Preston Hocker.

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Disclaimer: This episode is for educational and informational purposes only. The conversation shared by the hosts and guest is not intended to replace professional training, legal guidance, or consultation with qualified experts. Kendall Conner, Jessica Moore, the Church Leadership Lab Podcast, and Ministry Brands are not safety or security professionals. Every church’s situation is unique. Please seek guidance from trusted experts and local authorities regarding safety decisions.

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In this episode, hosts Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore explore practical ways that churches can inspire generosity and make the most of Giving Tuesday for their year-end campaigns.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• What Giving Tuesday means for churches
• Leveraging stories of impact to inspire giving
• Effective church communications for generosity
• Utilizing digital giving tools and platforms
• Thanking and engaging givers for future generosity

Join us as we dive into How Ministries Can Inspire Generosity On Giving Tuesday with Kendall Conner.

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In this episode, we sit down with Stephanie Lippi, writer, speaker, and conference director at Church Facilities Conference & Expo (CFX).

We explore how churches and ministry leaders can empower and provide care to volunteers to help them thrive in their roles.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• The heart behind volunteering in ministry
• Keys to making volunteers feel seen and valued
• Building healthy communication with volunteer teams
• Creating relational and operational volunteer cultures
• Recognizing signs of volunteer fatigue or feeling stuck

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In this episode, we sit down with Darcy Danson, creative team lead at Ministry Brands and a seasoned designer who blends creativity with purpose.

We explore how visual design can bring clarity and creativity to your church’s communication and identity.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• Why visuals matter in church ministry
• Building a consistent church brand
• The power of color, fonts, and style guides
• Empowering creative teams and volunteers
• Tools and resources for church design
• Clarity and hospitality through great visuals

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In this episode, we sit down with Laura Howe, founder of Hope Made Strong, mental health clinician, and host of the Care Ministry podcast.

We explore how church leaders can prioritize their own mental health while creating caring, resilient church cultures.

In this conversation, we discuss:

• Recognizing compassion fatigue and burnout
• Setting healthy boundaries in ministry
• Building care teams and support systems
• Creating a safe culture for mental health
• Empowering peer support within the church

Join us as we dive into How Church Leaders Can Prioritize Mental Health in Their Ministry with Laura Howe.

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In this episode, we recap our recent Healthy Church Summit and some of the key takeaways we learned about planning an impactful Christmas service. We share 5 practical tips that will help guide your ministry to make your upcoming holiday season your best yet.

In this conversation, we discuss:

• The importance of prayer in planning
• Building the right creative planning team
• Choosing creative spaces for brainstorming
• Incorporating classic carols and music
• Crafting messages with clear next steps
• Overcommunicating to first-time guests

Join us as we dive into this Healthy Church Summit recap and learn how to plan a memorable Christmas service from start to finish.

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In this episode, we recap our recent Healthy Church Summit and some of the key takeaways we learned about holiday communications. We share 5 practical tips that will help to communicate things clearly about your ministry's Christmas and end-of-year plans.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• Planning ahead for seasonal communications
• Leading with “why” instead of just details
• Centralizing church event information
• Prioritizing the most impactful promotions
• Equipping your congregation for word-of-mouth invitations
• Making event information easy and shareable

Join us as we dive into this Healthy Church Summit recap and learn how to cut the chaos from holiday church communications.

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In this episode, we sit down with Corinne Noble – kids pastor, author, coach, and founder of Kid Min Corinne Ministries.

We explore how kids and family ministry leaders can amplify their creativity and confidence as they invest in the next generation each week.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• Sparking creativity with limited resources
• Building confidence as a kids ministry leader
• Engaging families in discipleship at home
• Overcoming volunteer shortages and challenges
• Prioritizing relationships over entertainment
• Partnering with parents through effective communication

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In this episode, we sit down with Wes Herms, Senior Channel Manager at AvidXchange with over five years of experience helping organizations streamline their accounts payable through automation.

We explore how churches can lighten the load of financial tasks by implementing smart systems and automation tools.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• Digitizing and automating accounts payable processes.
• Reducing risk and increasing financial security.
• Saving time with remote approvals and workflows.
• Integrating AP automation with church software.
• Real-life stories of churches benefiting from smart systems.

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In this episode, we sit down with Nils Smith, social media strategist and digital marketing expert who helps churches, nonprofits, and businesses maximize technology for their mission.

We explore how ministry leaders can create authentic spiritual impact and meaningful community through effective use of social media.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The purpose behind ministry social media use
  • Moving beyond announcements to real engagement
  • Empowering volunteers for digital ministry roles
  • Responding well to messages and comments
  • Avoiding common church social media mistakes

Join us as we dive into How Ministry Leaders Can Create Spiritual Impact on Social Media with Nils Smith.

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In this episode, we sit down with Josh Denhart, founder of LeadMinistry.com, author, speaker, and former children's pastor.

We explore a practical framework for reaching your community for Christ, offering wisdom and actionable steps for church leaders.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The deeper purpose behind community outreach
  • Dangers of inward-focused churches
  • The "good works, goodwill, good news" framework
  • Earning the right to be heard
  • Real-life outreach examples and stories

Join us as we dive into A Framework To Reach Your Community For Christ with Josh Denhart.

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In this episode, we sit down with Tyler Harden, church growth consultant and co-founder of Firm Foundations Marketing.

We unpack practical strategies for clarifying your church’s identity and mission to foster growth and unity.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Communicating your church’s identity clearly
  • Common challenges in defining mission and vision
  • Engaging leadership in the identity process
  • Differentiating mission from methods in ministry
  • Reaching the right people in your community
  • Making your vision contagious and actionable

Join us as we dive into How to Clarify Your Church’s Identity and Mission with Tyler Harden.

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In this episode, Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore explore practical ways churches can maximize their church management software (ChMS) to strengthen ministry and streamline operations.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Creating a complete church directory
  • Organizing groups for connection
  • Sending mass communications
  • Automating follow-up interactions
  • Recording attendance for care
  • Leveraging dashboards for insights

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In this episode, we sit down with Cody Patterson, Production Pastor at Life Fellowship Church. Previously a marketing leader at MxU and Renewed Vision, Cody now consults with churches to help them thrive through practical, creative solutions.

We explore smart tech and media tips to help churches do more with less, no matter their size or resources.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Building and empowering volunteer tech teams
  • Overcoming budget and equipment limitations
  • Creative DIY solutions for media and lighting
  • Automation to reduce volunteer workload
  • Cultivating healthy church tech team culture

Join us as we dive into Tech & Media Tips to Help Your Church Do More With Less with Cody Patterson.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jack Whitis, CEO of WavMaker and seasoned technology and engineering leader, and Mark Stuart, co-founder of WavMaker, Grammy-winning former lead vocalist of Audio Adrenaline, and philanthropist.

We explore how churches can amplify their creative storytelling and connect with their communities more effectively through music.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The power of music in storytelling
  • What “royalty-free” music really means
  • Legal challenges with music in church media
  • Practical uses for stock music in ministry
  • Tips for equipping creative church teams

Join us as we dive into Amplifying Your Church's Creative Storytelling With Music with Jack Whitis & Mark Stuart.

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In this episode, we sit down with Lee Coate, executive pastor, author, and president of Growmentum Group, who brings over 30 years of ministry and leadership experience.

We explore practical frameworks for navigating the various seasons of life and leadership, while equipping leaders to embrace and empower multigenerational teams within the church.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The four seasons of leadership roles
  • Embracing your current leadership season
  • Empowering and mentoring next-generation leaders
  • Building teams with seasonal diversity
  • Avoiding burnout and cultivating passion

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In this episode, Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore explore how churches can create a culture where inviting others is natural, practical, and effective in fostering growth and belonging.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The power of personal church invitations
  • Building an environment people want to share
  • Creative invite tools and strategies
  • Using events as invitation opportunities
  • Effective communication for invite culture
  • Sharing stories to inspire invitations

Join us as we dive into building an invite culture at your church with Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore.

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In this episode, we sit down with Lee Cool, church facility and operations expert at eSPACE. We explore how effective stewardship of church facilities can support and advance your ministry’s mission.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Why facility management is often overlooked
  • Facilities’ impact on church health and mission
  • Practical maintenance and stewardship strategies
  • Common challenges and solutions for churches
  • Automating and optimizing facility operations

Join us as we dive into Stewarding Your Church Facilities to Fulfill Your Mission with Lee Cool.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jay Kranda, the Innovative Tech Pastor at Saddleback Church and author of “Online Church Is Not The Answer: Beyond Just Streaming Church to Hybrid Disciple Making."

We explore how churches can move beyond simply live streaming to building thriving digital and hybrid discipleship communities.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Creative ways churches can use live streaming
  • Moving past “checklist” digital ministry
  • Equipping volunteers for digital engagement
  • Strategies for digital discipleship
  • Using digital tools to build real community
  • Adapting to new technology in church life

Join us as we dive into leveling up your church’s live stream strategy with Jay Kranda.

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In this episode, we sit down with Emily Fascilla, nonprofit fundraising expert and
Director of Client Strategy at The Giving Block.

We explore innovative giving solutions for the modern church and how technology is transforming the ways people support ministry.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Accepting crypto and stock gifts in churches
  • Benefits and security of online giving platforms
  • Tax advantages for donors using assets
  • Making generosity accessible for all ages
  • Communicating new giving methods to congregations
  • Reaching the next generation of givers

Join us as we dive into Innovative Giving Solutions For The Modern Church with Emily Fascilla.

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In this episode, we sit down with Chandler Boyce, church marketing coach and owner of The Marketing Co-op, who helps pastors expand their church's online reach through SEO, paid ads, and smart digital strategy.

We explore practical steps for making your church’s online presence more effective and visible, turning digital invisibility into unmissable outreach.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Why your website is your digital foundation
  • Optimizing your search engine profile
  • Turning your site into a resource hub
  • Simple tips to boost SEO and search ranking
  • Content strategies for YouTube and social media
  • Measuring what’s working in your online efforts

Join us as we dive into Boosting Your Church’s Online Presence from Invisible to Unmissable with Chandler Boyce.

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In this episode, Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore explore creative and practical ways to keep your church engaged throughout the busy summer months.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Summer-themed message series ideas
  • Using email newsletters for connection
  • Flexible small group strategies
  • Leveraging social media for engagement
  • Planning outreach and community events
  • Utilizing online giving and livestreams

Join us as we dive into creative ways to keep your church engaged during summer with Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore.

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In this episode, we sit down with Emily B. Cummins, author, speaker, podcast host, and chief of staff at Church of Hope in Ocala, Florida.

We explore what it means to step confidently into the leader God has called you to be, embracing the ongoing journey of becoming.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Navigating self-doubt and identity in leadership
  • Embracing the process of becoming
  • Communicating vision during change and conflict
  • Building healthy rhythms and self-awareness
  • Empowering others to discover their calling
  • Key practices for leading healthy churches

Join us as we dive into becoming the leader God called you to be with Emily Cummins.

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In this episode, we sit down with Holly Tate, executive coach, growth strategist, and founder of the Ready Network.

We explore practical strategies for church growth and discover frameworks that move beyond theory and actually work in the real world, with insights that can help your team go from stuck to strategic.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Why churches feel stuck in growth
  • The impact of external and internal challenges
  • The Ready Framework for strategic planning
  • Building action plans with clear ownership
  • Evaluating what’s working using key metrics
  • Healthy rhythms for sustainable church growth

Join us as we dive into practical strategies for church growth that actually work with Holly Tate.

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In this episode, we sit down with Phil Bowdle, creative ministry leader, best-selling author, and VP of Marketing at Slingshot Group.

We explore strategies for rethinking church communication to ensure clarity and effective engagement.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Prioritizing what matters in church communication
  • Clarity versus creativity in messaging
  • Avoiding announcement overload
  • Engaging your audience beyond Sunday
  • Building story-driven content
  • Scalable systems for any size church

Join us as we dive into rethinking church communication for maximum clarity with Phil Bowdle.

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In this episode, we sit down with Russ Ewell, executive minister at Bay Area Christian Church, author, social entrepreneur, and advocate for individuals with special needs and disabilities.

Russ shares his powerful personal journey and how it led him to champion a church culture where everyone can belong, particularly those who are often overlooked in traditional ministry settings.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The personal experiences that ignited Russ’s mission
  • The vital need for accessible worship environments
  • Practical strategies for creating inclusive children's ministries
  • Leveraging technology for greater accessibility
  • Building a spiritually vibrant culture that values every person

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In this episode, Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore dive into practical tips for attracting and keeping passionate volunteers at your church.

Volunteers are the heartbeat of every ministry, yet many leaders struggle with the constant challenge of recruiting and retaining them. The good news? It doesn’t have to be this way.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Casting vision to motivate volunteers
  • Creating clear and easy volunteer on-ramps
  • The power of personal and specific invitations
  • Publicly celebrating and appreciating volunteers
  • Matching volunteers with their unique gifts
  • Building strong volunteer team culture

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In this episode, we sit down with Greg Atkinson, best-selling author, international keynote speaker, and founder of Entre Church.

We explore how entrepreneurial thinking can help churches reimagine missional engagement and create sustainable impact in their communities.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Creative outreach methods through entrepreneurship.
  • Rethinking church finances beyond the offering plate.
  • Practical ideas for church-based businesses.
  • Leveraging church facilities for community use.
  • Encouraging bi-vocational church leaders.
  • Essential tools for efficient church operations.

Join us as we dive into rethinking missional engagement through entrepreneurship with Greg Atkinson.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jaime Montano, Senior Motion Graphics Designer at Ministry Brands and creative mind behind thousands of worship backgrounds used in churches worldwide.

We explore how visual media can enhance worship experiences and create more engaging, intentional environments for congregations.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The evolution of church media and visuals
  • Best practices for screens and projectors
  • Starting points for media in worship services
  • Choosing motion backgrounds with intentionality
  • Benefits of visuals for both sermons and announcements
  • Keeping volunteers engaged in media ministry

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This week on the Church Leadership Lab podcast, we're taking a break from our usual format to honor the significance of Holy Week. As we pause to reflect on this sacred time, we're reminded of the incredible hope that we have through Christ’s resurrection.

Ministry leaders, we know this can be a busy time for you. The Easter season often comes with extra events, long to-do lists, and high expectations. As much as we understand that this can be a hectic time, we want to remind you to take a moment for yourself to truly connect with God this week. We believe that God wants to do something fresh in you this Easter—not just through you.

From all of us at Church Leadership Lab and the team at Ministry Brands, thank you for your faithfulness in serving your church and community. We see you. We’re praying for you. And we’re grateful for your leadership in this powerful season.

Wishing you a Holy Week filled with peace, purpose, and the joy of resurrection.

We’ll return next week with more inspiring conversations to equip and encourage you in ministry—because the best is yet to come.

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In this episode, we sit down with Micah Pritchard, a seasoned leader with a strong background in software development and team leadership, currently at Service Reef.

We explore how churches can effectively mobilize their congregations for missions and the impact it can have both locally and globally.

In this conversation, we discuss:

• Defining missions within the church context.
• Importance of discipleship through mission trips.
• Balancing local and global missions opportunities.
• Effective strategies for planning mission trips.
• Engaging and equipping volunteers for missions.

Join us as we dive into mobilizing your congregation for missions with Micah Pritchard.‍

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In this episode, we sit down with Ryan Carter, a seasoned leader with over 17 years of experience in helping ministries creating safe environments for attendees, volunteers, and children.

We explore the importance of safety measures in church environments and how ministry leaders can effectively implement these practices.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The importance of volunteer background checks.
  • Ensuring safety in kids ministry.
  • Handling large events safely.
  • The role of policies when it comes to church safety.
  • Balancing being welcoming while also secure.

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In this episode, we sit down with Mark MacDonald, a church branding strategist and founder of Be Known for Something.

We explore strategies to ignite engagement at your church and the importance of clear communication in reaching your congregation and community effectively.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Clarifying church communication strategies.
  • Engaging congregation beyond Sunday services.
  • Strategies for enhancing your worship experiences.
  • Engaging first-time guests and community members.
  • The importance of creating a culture of invitation.

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In this episode, we sit down with Justin Romine, the managing partner and CEO of HR Ministry Solutions.

We explore avoiding common HR mistakes in ministry and how churches can effectively manage their teams and resources.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Importance of HR in ministry settings.
  • Risks of outdated employee handbooks.
  • Effective use of staff lifestyle agreements.
  • Classifying and paying church roles correctly.
  • Cultural and discipleship costs of poor HR.

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In this episode, we sit down with Pastor Nick Newman, founder of Selah Leaders and Lead Pastor of Propel Church in Mount Pleasant, North Carolina.

We explore how ministry leaders can prioritize rest and prevent burnout through intentional rhythms and support systems.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Importance of rest for ministry leaders.
  • Challenges of balancing ministry and rest.
  • Role of identity in preventing burnout.
  • Strategies for sustainable church leadership.
  • Practical tips for implementing rest policies.

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In this episode, Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore explore practical tips to prepare your church for the Easter ministry season.

We share essential advice that will equip your church for Easter, ensuring a smooth and successful event for your congregation and community.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Benefits of starting Easter planning early.
  • Communicating effectively with your church.
  • Setting volunteers up for success.
  • Planning worship services with intention.
  • Creating a meaningful follow-up strategy.

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In this episode, we sit down with Tyler Harden, a church growth consultant and co-founder of Firm Foundations Marketing.

We explore how churches can utilize data to effectively identify and reach their target audience.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Using data for church growth.
  • Defining your church's ideal audience.
  • The five Ps of defining a target audience.
  • The role of data in decision making.
  • Aligning outreach with your ideal audience.

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In this episode, we sit down with Brandon Goff, pastor of Radiate Church and Executive Director of the Acts 2 Network of Churches and Leaders.

We explore how to navigate difficult leadership seasons and the lessons learned along the way.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Navigating unexpected leadership challenges.
  • Overcoming grief as a leader.
  • Phases of healing in leadership.
  • The power of acknowledgment and vision.
  • Mobilizing the church after hardship.
  • The importance of personal leadership development.

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In this episode, we sit down with Steve Fogg, an early adopter of church online and online campus pastor at Crossway Baptist Church in Melbourne, Australia.

We explore how ministries can effectively reach their communities online through digital strategies and engagement.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The importance of church websites.
  • Engaging social media strategies.
  • Benefits of live streaming services.
  • Creating discoverable, faith-based content.
  • Building digital ministry teams.

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In this episode, we sit down with Pastor Jeff Kapusta, the founding and lead pastor of LifePoint Church, a life-giving church in Wilmington, North Carolina.

We explore how to create spiritual momentum at your church and the strategies that have brought fresh life to timeless elements of the faith for his congregation.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• How to inspire your church to pray.
• Innovative ways to engage with the Bible.
• Creating can’t-miss worship events.
• Addressing church growth barriers.
• Reinventing areas of your ministry.
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In this episode of the Church Leadership Lab Podcast, we sit down with Katie Allred, founder of ChurchCommunications.com, author, professor, and thought leader on marketing, business, and Christian leadership.

We explore how churches can leverage AI to save time and improve communication while focusing on meaningful ministry.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• AI and church communications intersection.
• Using AI for content planning.
• Efficient social media content creation.
• Segmenting congregation data with AI.
• Unified workspace benefits for church staff.

Join us as we dive into how churches can use AI to save time and communicate better with Katie Allred.

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In this episode, we sit down with Juliet Towner, a veteran in church media with over 25 years of experience, now serving as the Product Art Director at Ministry Brands.

We explore how churches can utilize graphics to boost engagement in various ministries and church activities.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Impact of visuals on church communication.
  • Simplifying announcements with visual aids.
  • Branding for consistent church messaging.
  • Using media for engaging kids ministry.
  • Optimal use of templates for church graphics.
  • Social media strategies for churches.

Join us as we dive into using graphics to increase engagement in every area of your church with Juliet Towner.

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In this episode of the Church Leadership Lab Podcast, we sit down with Tim Stevens, founder and CEO of Leading Smart. Tim is an author, speaker, and leadership expert who has a passion to come alongside executive leaders and teams.

We explore how churches can build thriving staff cultures that align with their mission and values.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• Why staff culture is crucial for churches of any size.
• Practical steps to assess and improve your team culture.
• How to embed staff values into the DNA of your organization.
• Tips for hiring and onboarding with culture in mind.
• Creative ideas to keep staff values front and center.

Join us as we dive into creating healthier, more impactful church teams with Tim Stevens.

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In this episode of the Church Leadership Lab Podcast, we sit down with Barbara Carneiro, founder of Word Revolution, and church communication strategist.

We explore how churches can communicate clearly and purposefully to better fulfill their unique missions.

In this conversation, we discuss:
• The unique archetypes of churches.
• Meeting key human desires in ministry.
• Recognizing and embracing church identity.
• Practical church branding strategies.
• Balancing focus between identity and audience.

Join us as we dive into how churches can communicate with clarity and purpose with Barbara Carneiro.

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In this episode, Kendall Conner and new cohost, Jessica Moore, explore practical steps for nurturing and enhancing healthy church operations.

In this conversation, we discuss:

• How to communicate to insiders and outsiders.
• Using data for effective discipleship.
• Increasing staff and volunteer effectiveness.
• Improving your church's safety.
• Boosting congregational engagement with digital tools.

Join us as we dive into practical steps for healthy church operations with Kendall Conner and Jessica Moore.

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Since it’s Christmas week, we won’t have one of our normal episodes for you today, but we wanted to take a quick moment just to send a special message to you. From all of us here at the Church Leadership Lab podcast, we wish you a very merry Christmas.

This season, we’re taking a moment to reflect on how thankful we are for you—our amazing listeners. From everyone on our podcast crew to the entire team at Ministry Brands, we want you to know how much we appreciate you.

It’s an incredible privilege to speak into your lives each week, to share meaningful conversations, and to help empower you to lead a healthy church.

Looking ahead to 2025, you can expect more inspiring conversations with experts and thought leaders, packed with wisdom to help you build a thriving, healthy church. So keep tuning in!

We hope you have an incredible holiday season and a very happy New Year. We’ll see you in 2025!

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In this episode, we sit down with Samuel Gualtieri, visual artist, entrepreneur, and founder of Pop Signs.

We explore how to create a fun, welcoming environment at your church and the importance of first impressions.

In this conversation, we discuss:

• Healthy church components and leadership.
• Creativity in church problem-solving.
• The influence of a great welcome to church.
• Visual and digital impressions for churches.
• The significance of volunteer engagement.

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In this episode, we sit down with Wes Gay, a Storybrand certified copywriter and founder of Wayfinder.

We explore effective communication strategies for church leaders to cut through the noise and engage their communities.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The importance of clear church communication.
  • Simple steps for speaking to what matters to people.
  • Using a story-telling format in your messaging.
  • Emphasis on clarity over creativity.
  • Addressing real needs in your communication.
  • How to build interest around your announcements.

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In this episode, we sit down with Ben Stapley, Executive Pastor at Zarephath Christian Church with over 20 years of experience in leadership, communication, and creativity.

We discuss the significance of meaningful meetings and how they can elevate church leadership and staff engagement.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Managing meeting time effectively.
  • Preparing as leaders and participants.
  • Engaging participants and fostering trust.
  • Inviting necessary participants only.
  • Creating a safe environment for questions.

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In this episode, we sit down with Carl Barnhill, creative entrepreneur, motion designer, and founder of Church Visuals.

We explore how visual media can enhance gospel communication and engage modern congregations.

In this conversation, we discuss:

• Carl's journey in church media.
• Effective visuals in engaging younger generations.
• Starting with ready-made media.
• Tips for small churches using visuals.
• Importance of visuals in sermon retention.

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In this episode, we sit down with Greg Wiens, founder of Healthy Growing Leaders and organizational consultant with over 40 years of experience.

We explore the importance of leading with an understanding of one's unique wiring.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Assessments for personal leadership insights.
  • Growth mindset importance for effective leadership.
  • Emotional intelligence development in leaders.
  • Personalized discipleship over mass programs.
  • Unique calling and wiring in ministry.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jonathan Talley, lead pastor of Vibrant City Church and an experienced ministry leader.

We explore creative seasonal outreach ideas for engaging your community.

In this conversation, we discuss:

• How to spread the word about your church.
• Engaging community through seasonal events.
• Maximizing holiday seasons for outreach.
• Leveraging social media for event promotion.
• Importance of relationships over programs.

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In this episode, we sit down with Brian Beauford, founder of Productive Pastor and Executive Pastor of over 19 years.

We explore strategies for ministry leaders to boost productivity without burning out, all while making time for the things that matter most.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Prioritizing things family and true ministry.
  • Setting goals for complex problem-solving.
  • The importance of "Deep Work" sessions.
  • Custom GPTs for church tasks.
  • The importance of delegation in meetings.
  • Building a leadership pipeline in church.
  • Effective preparation and management systems.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jason Houser, leader of Seeds Kids Worship and creator of over 200 scripture-based worship songs.

We explore how music can help instill the word of God in children and enrich their spiritual development.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Establishing a foundation of faith for children.
  • Bible teaching strategies for various ages.
  • Integrating Bible teachings into daily life.
  • Practical tips for kids ministry
  • Music as a tool for Bible memorization.
  • The role of parents and churches in faith education.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jessica Moore as she shares her expertise in digital giving and passionate biblical stewardship.

We explore fostering a culture of generosity within churches and practical steps to achieve it.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Importance of clear mission statements.
  • Tying giving to the church's mission.
  • Leadership’s role in communicating the mission.
  • Advantages of digital giving platforms.
  • Sustaining motivation in ministry.

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In this episode, we sit down with Chloe Haddad, Groups and Online Campus Director at Rolling Hills Community Church and social media specialist.

We explore the pivotal role of social media in fostering church engagement beyond Sunday services.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Involving members in social media tasks.
  • Social media for discipleship and spiritual growth.
  • Engaging with faith-related questions online.
  • Content tailoring for different social platforms.
  • Avoiding burnout through effective delegation.
  • Using scheduling tools for proactive planning.

Join us as we dive into using social media at your church to engage your community outside of Sunday with Chloe Haddad.

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In this episode, we sit down with Chad Buckland, Worship Pastor at Legacy Church and creator of Worship Leader Hangout.

We explore how technology can elevate worship services and the importance of continuous learning for worship leaders.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • How to plan music for your worship services
  • Following the Holy Spirit in music selection.
  • Opting for budget-friendly, impactful tech setups.
  • Focusing on the "why" behind tech improvements.
  • Enhancing worship experiences with visual effects.

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In this episode, we sit down with Noah LaRoe, the lead pastor of a church plant called Piedmont Chapel in High Point, NC, which just celebrated its 10th anniversary. We explore how to successfully lead a church plant that stands the test of time.

In this conversation, we discuss:
- How to cast a vision for a church.
- Finding the right location for services.
- Recruiting volunteers from the community.
- Prioritizing community needs over church agendas.
- Sustaining faith in long-term church growth.

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In this episode, we sit down with Kendall Conner, the new host stepping in for Scott Holthaus and an experienced church creative serving with Ministry Brands.

We explore the future direction of the Church Leadership Lab podcast and the evolving dynamics within church leadership and outreach.

In this conversation, we discuss:
- Kendall's journey with Church Motion Graphics.
- The impact of visuals in church engagement.
- How church leaders can use digital media to drive engagement.
- Kendall's hands-on ministry experience.
- Upcoming plans for the podcast under Kendall's direction.

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In this episode, we sit down with Kenny Winfrey, a church tech consultant with over 17 years of experience working with churches, denominations, and headquarters.

We explore how software impacts headquarters and denominations, optimizing their operations for greater ministry impact.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Software's role in church headquarters function.
  • Challenges in engaging diverse churches.
  • Impact of unified tools on administration.
  • Financial reporting and budget management.
  • Real-time insights from customizable dashboards.

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In this episode, we sit down with Angela Hill Goudy, a seasoned church technology consultant.

We explore how technology can be leveraged to foster church growth and enhance engagement.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Using church tech the right way.
  • Technology aiding discipleship and outreach.
  • Overcoming small church challenges.
  • Engagement through digital and organic methods.

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In this episode, we sit down with Terry Thompson, founder of Small Church USA and former Lead Pastor (and current Leadership Development Pastor) of Rock Point Church in Crawfordsville, Indiana.

We explore how small churches can make a significant impact and overcome common challenges with focused strategy and community engagement.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The strengths of small churches.
  • Challenges facing small congregations.
  • Prioritizing and simplifying church initiatives.
  • Supporting pastors and their wives.
  • Building community relations in small towns.

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In this episode, we sit down with Marc Estes, co-founder and CEO of Visitor Reach, an innovative platform that helps your church connect with your city.

We explore the challenges and opportunities of reaching people in the digital age and how technology is transforming church engagement.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Changes in reaching people post-Covid.
  • Utilizing AI for church outreach.
  • Shifts from an attractional model to a go model.
  • The importance of nurturing digital connections.
  • Understanding and improving digital health assessments.

Join us as we dive into how to effectively reach people in the digital age with Marc Estes.

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In this episode, we sit down with Matt Steen, co-founder of Chemistry Staffing, pastor, church planter, and executive pastor with over two decades of ministry experience.

We explore the intricacies of leading a flourishing church staff and the evolving challenges in church operations.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Finding personnel for ministry roles.
  • Internal versus external hires for churches.
  • The impact of technology on church staff.
  • Effective onboarding for new church members.
  • Encouraging vocational ministry among youth.

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In this episode, we sit down with Kirk Vander Molen, National Executive Director of Love Inc., and Vicki Conn, Executive Director of Love Inc. in Greater Holmes County.

We explore how churches can increase community impact by pursuing unity and collaboration. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Outreach's essential role in a healthy church.
  • Building relational trust and community awareness.
  • Partnering with like-minded churches.
  • Practical ways to initiate unity in service.

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In this episode, we sit down with Mark MacDonald, an expert church branding strategist, pastor, marketer, and creative director.

Discover how to navigate the evolving landscape of church communication and effectively connect with your congregation in the digital era.

Key Topics Discussed:

  • Empathizing with Your Church Audience: Learn strategies to understand and connect with your church community.
  • Simplifying and Improving Church Websites and Branding: Tips for creating a more user-friendly and impactful online presence.
  • Adapting to AI While Maintaining Church Identity: Explore the balance between leveraging technology and preserving your church’s unique voice.
  • Fostering Genuine Community: Insights on building authentic relationships within your church.
  • Overcoming Challenges and Trusting God’s Plan: Encouragement and guidance for navigating obstacles in church communication.

Tune in and discover how to grow your church communication strategy with wisdom and insights from Mark MacDonald.

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In this episode, we sit down with Tim Popadic, the executive director of the Bless app, who has 15 years of experience championing technology-driven, city-wide endeavors for the Kingdom.

We explore how the technology can empower churches to build meaningful relationships to reach their neighbors.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Using technology to promote healthy relationships
  • Empowering Christians to live on mission
  • Facilitating prayer and care for neighbors
  • Connecting individuals with local churches
  • Technology's potential in the church's mission

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In this episode, Scott & Kacie talk about the key factors in planning high-impact worship services.

With a combined 25+ years of worship-leading experience, they walk through lessons learned, wisdom gained, and powerful advice for service planning.

In this conversation, they discuss:

  • How to ensure your team prepares.
  • The importance of details in service planning.
  • Why worship leaders often forget about the people.
  • How you can balance skills and character in leadership.

Listen in as Scott and Kacie dive into 7 ways to ruin a worship service before it begins.

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In this episode, we sit down with Matt and Andrea Harris from Luke 9:23 ministries. Matt has over 30 years of full-time ministry experience and Andrea brings over 25 years of nonprofit experience.

We explore strategies for churches to streamline administrative tasks, allowing leaders to focus more on ministry.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • How to use the right technology for admin tasks.
  • Keys to free up more time for ministry.
  • Why proper admin from the start is crucial.
  • How to leverage external agencies to help in ministry.

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In this episode, we sit down with Anthony Dicks, senior leadership consultant at 180 Management Group and seasoned pastor with over 26 years in ministry.

We explore how pastors can thrive amid adversity and transform their challenges into opportunities for growth.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • What we can learn from Jesus' model for holiness in hostile environments.
  • Why physical exercise, therapy, and community are essential in trials.
  • When you should call it quits as a church leader.
  • The keys to leadership development in sacred and secular contexts.

Join us as we dive into a conversation on how pastors can thrive in the midst of adversity with Anthony Dicks.

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This episode features a conversation with Alex Wilson, co-founder of The Giving Block and expert in stock and crypto donations.

We discuss the opportunities for generosity that stock and crypto donations present as well as:

  • Understanding common myths about donating stock and crypto.
  • What are the benefits of accepting non-cash assets?
  • How to simplify the giving process.
  • Preparing for future trends in technology and generosity.
  • Real examples of the impact of generosity through stock and crypto.

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In this episode, we sit down with Nathan Nelson, pastor of mission and outreach at Bethany Community Church in Seattle who brings extensive experience in church-based community development and short-term missions.

We explore transforming short-term missions for lasting global impact and ensuring genuine kingdom impact.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Why long-term partnerships and strategic visits are more impactful.
  • How to reimagine short-term missions for your church
  • The importance of intentional relationships in mission work.
  • What it looks like to redefine success beyond short-term goals.
  • How to holistically equip in disciple-making.

Join us as we dive into how to approach short-term missions for lasting impact with Nathan Nelson.

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In this episode, we sit down with Dr. John Plake, Chief Innovation Officer at the American Bible Society who also brings 30+ years of full-time ministry experience as a pastor, missionary, professor, and researcher.

We explore new research John and his team have cultivated on how Americans engage with the Bible and technology. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • New research on how Americans view the Bible.
  • The role technology plays in Bible engagement.
  • How church leaders can shepherd "The Movable Middle"
  • Why addressing the emotional needs of people with scripture is vital.
  • The annual "State of the Bible USA" report.

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In this episode, we sit down again with Josh Denhart, former children's pastor and founder of Lead Ministry, a master course & download system to help ministry leaders.

In this episode, we explore effective strategies for navigating change in ministry and discuss:

  • Why empathy is essential during change.
  • How to handle pushback from change initiatives.
  • Understanding the gradual versus disruptive change approaches.
  • How to discern timing for change.
  • What to listen for when sharing the vision for change.

Join us as we dive into how to navigate change in ministry with Josh Denhart.

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In this episode, we sit down with J.P. De Grance, founder and president of Communio. We explore how healthy relationships and marriages positively impact churches and the transformative impact that can have on communities and beyond.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Why churches should normalize investing in the health of marriages.
  • How to coach effective communication skills.
  • Ways to address brokenness in relationships.
  • The role the church plays in addressing trauma.

Join us as we dive into how healthy relationships strengthen healthy churches with J.P. De Grance.

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In this episode, we sit down with Patrick Weikle, the lead youth pastor at United City Church in Humble, Texas, and co-owner of Simply Strategic Ministry. We delve into the nuances of reaching Gen Z and the effective use of technology in ministry.

Episode Highlights:

  • Why Youth Ministry Needs to Evolve.
  • How to Personalize Church Assimilation Processes.
  • Why Technology, AI, and Short-form Content Are Crucial.
  • Why Authenticity and Self-Awareness Are Essential In Ministry.
  • How the Church Can Engage and Empower the Next Generation.
  • Why Personal Growth and Self-Discovery Matter.

Key Discussion Points:

  • How to Automate Personal Interactions: Discover how automation can enhance personal interactions within the church, making engagement more meaningful and continuous without feeling impersonal.
  • How to Engage Gen Z with Technology: Learn strategies for using technology to connect with Gen Z, making ministry relevant and impactful.
  • How to Address Societal Issues in Youth Ministry: Understand the best ways to tackle pressing societal issues that today's students face.
  • Why Involving Younger Generations in Church Decisions Matters: Explore the benefits of involving Gen Z and Gen Alpha in church decision-making processes to foster empowerment and active participation.

Join us as we dive into Patrick Weikle's insights on reaching Gen Z and using technology in the right ways.

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In this episode, we sit down with Kendall Conner, a ministry-focused creative with 20+ years of experience both serving as a creative pastor and supporting ministries with creative resources at Church Motion Graphics.

We explore how visual engagement can enhance church communication and cut through the noise. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Why visuals are a powerful tool in capturing attention.
  • The power of analyzing tasks and automating where possible.
  • How to create a sense of awe with visuals.
  • Ways to empower artists and creatives in your church.
  • The future of Church Motion Graphics.

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In this episode, we sit down with Pastor Travis Spencer, author of "Wonderful: How to Live a Fulfilled Life in a Very Full World" and Lead Pastor of The Fields Church, a multi-site church in Illinois.

We explore the keys to fulfillment and longevity in church leadership and discuss:

  • How to prioritize personal health and avoid burnout in ministry.
  • Discerning your calling and being open to new roles in ministry.
  • Why you need a supportive team in difficult seasons.
  • Create a pathway for growth in your church to help individuals progress and take on more responsibility.
  • Why you need mentors who are further in their ministry journey.

Join us as we dive into living a fulfilled life as a church leader with Pastor Travis Spencer.

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In this episode, we sit down with Dirk Smith, Vice President at Eastern European Mission and an expert in donor engagement and fundraising.

We explore effective strategies for engaging donors and fostering deep connections that can significantly impact generosity in the church.

In this conversation, we discuss:

Importance of relationships in fundraising.
Impactful storytelling for donor engagement.
Navigating donor communications with technology.
Shifting from scarcity to abundance mindset.

Join us as we dive into keys to impactful donor engagement with Dirk Smith.

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In this episode, we sit down with Josh Denhart, former children's pastor and founder of Lead Ministry, a master course & download system to help ministry leaders.

We explore how to recruit volunteers who are invested in the ministry, why most churches struggle with the 80/20 rule, and how to balance the needs of the ministry with the capacity of volunteers.

In addition, we discuss:

  • How to craft personalized volunteer recruitment strategies.
  • The key to building lasting relationships with volunteers.
  • Why you must utilize EQ in volunteer management.
  • How to gain role clarity and use spiritual gifts in volunteering.
  • Tips for sustaining volunteer engagement and avoiding burnout.

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In this episode, we sit down with John Darnell, CEO of Global Outreach, and discuss the shifts and changes in mission work today.

We dig into the importance of supporting missionaries and how churches can increase their involvement.

Additionally, we discuss:

  • Navigating recent shifts in mission work.
  • Why it's important to broaden the definition of mission work.
  • How support for missionaries goes beyond financial contributions.
  • How to cultivate a heart for the nations in the local church.

Join us as we dive into Mission Work For the Modern Church with John Darnell.

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In this episode, we sit down with Laura Howe, founder of Hope Made Strong and advocate for mental health and effective care ministry in the church.

We explore the crucial interplay between care ministry and mental health within the church community.

  • Building a culture of care within the church.
  • The distinctions between care ministry vs. discipleship.
  • The role of boundaries in maintaining the mental & emotional health of church leaders.
  • Using the Good Samaritan as a care ministry model.

How churches can be a beacon of hope and support in the area of mental health.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jeff Simmons, founding and lead pastor of Rolling Hills Community Church and president of Justice and Mercy International.

Under Jeff's leadership, Rolling Hills has grown from 15 people in a bible study to several thousand across five campuses in the Nashville area.

In our conversation, we look at how church leaders can become effective and wise stewards of the money and resources entrusted to us by God.

We discuss things like:

  • Creative ways to maximize resources and impact.
  • Thinking outside the box when it comes to facilities.
  • Embracing business tactics and strategies that align with biblical principles.
  • Balancing big faith with wise stewardship.
  • Technology's role in expanding outreach.

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In this episode, we sit down with Kris Crim, Director of Operations and former Director of Prevention for the Memphis Child Advocacy Center. Kris specializes in child sexual abuse prevention and response training.

We tackle the crucial topic of preventing child abuse within the church and learn from Kris's valuable insights and experiences.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Recognizing signs of child abuse.
  • Creating church child protection policies.
  • Education's role in abuse prevention.
  • Legal obligations to report suspicions.
  • Cultivating a church's culture of safety.

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In this episode, we sit down with Shaila Visser, the National Director of Alpha Canada and global Senior Vice-President for Alpha International.

We discuss the topic of evangelism, examine the recent shift in perspective on whether we should evangelize, and explore how church leaders can grow in awareness of the work God is already doing with people.

In this conversation, we cover:

  • How to understand what evangelism IS and ISN'T.
  • The role of awareness and availability in evangelism.
  • Why views of evangelism are changing among church leaders.
  • Ways to better understand the next generations and reach them.
  • How signs and wonders play a role in evangelism.

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In this episode, we sit down with Blue Van Dyke, former Executive Pastor, International Marketplace Executive, Venture Capitalist, and the founder of The StudioC.

We explore the importance of alignment and engagement within the church, focusing on how to effectively communicate through member engagement and messaging strategies while leveraging technology and data to connect and better shepherd people.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • What actual member engagement looks like
  • Using data for personalized church communication.
  • How the church can learn from marketing best practices.
  • Understanding the "science of messaging"
  • Leveraging technology to help shepherd people.

Join us as we dive into why church communication often misses the mark and what church leaders can do about it with Blue Van Dyke.

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In this episode, we sit down with James Whitford, founder of Watered Gardens Ministries and the True Charity Initiative.

We explore how churches can transform their approach to serving the poor with dignity and sustainability.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Transitioning from relief to development.
  • The harm of dependency in charity.
  • Building long-term community relationships.
  • Educating on effective charity.
  • Socioeconomic diversity in churches.

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In this episode, we sit down with Ryan Brown, CEO of Open Doors USA, and an advocate for the persecuted church around the globe. With extensive experience in shepherding teams for Kingdom impact, he’s passionate about helping U.S. believers grow their faith as they connect with their persecuted family around the globe.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • How the church in the US can gain awareness of global persecution.
  • Why persecution is contributing to the growth of the global church.
  • What church leaders can learn from those walking through persecution.
  • How Open Doors USA helps to serve the church & church leaders.

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In this episode, we sit down with Joanna la Fleur, speaker, podcaster, TV host, and communications consultant.

We look at the current digital landscape and how it's impacting ministry as well as the opportunities in front of us to reach more people.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Reaching people amid digital life.
  • Strategic social media use for church growth.
  • Embracing AI for church leadership efficiency.
  • Live streaming services vs. genuine experiences.
  • The role of criticism in growth and hospitality.

Join us as we dive into how churches can navigate the shifting digital landscape with Joanna la Fleur.

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In this episode, we hear teaching from the most recent Healthy Church Summit. Mark MacDonald teaches how you can find the common thread running through your ministry and then be known for it.

Hear from Jenni Catron as she helps us manage and steward our time well to accomplish what matters most.

Watch the Healthy Church Summit on demand: Watch Here

Download the “My Trust Building Checklist” from Jenni Catron the 4Sight Group team: Download Here

Get the “Be Known For Something Guide” from Mark MacDonald (Select “Healthy Church” for the recent conference): Access the Guide Here

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In this episode, we sit down with the co-founder of Missional Labs, Stephen Mulder. Stephen brings a passion for leadership development, the local church, and entrepreneurship together to support innovative, mission-minded leaders and startup organizations, working on the frontiers of evangelism, discipleship, and church planting

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Challenges of technology in discipleship.
  • Cultivating innovation within the Church.
  • Empowering ventures in global missions.
  • Encouraging risk-taking and entrepreneurship.

Join us as we have a conversation with Stephen Mulder on fueling discipleship with innovation.

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In this episode, we sit down with Robert Blair, Executive Vice President of Payments here at Ministry Brands.

Robert brings decades of experience in financial services and tech to create the best digital tools that help churches grow in generosity.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The state of church giving in 2024
  • Strategies for increasing generosity in churches
  • Overcoming barriers to digital giving
  • Common traits among churches with growing generosity

Join us as we dive into the state of church giving in 2024 with Robert Blair.

Download the State of Church Giving 2024: Download Here

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In this episode, we sit down with Russ Ewell, Executive Minister of the Bay Area Christian Church, entrepreneur, and author of "Not Who You Think He Is: Dropping Your Assumptions and Discovering God for Yourself".

With over 40 years of ministry experience, Russ is passionate about reaching out to a growing demographic of people called the "nones" as well as using technology to make church more accessible for all.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Utilizing tech for inclusive church experiences.
  • The power of authenticity in social media.
  • Reaching the "nones" through digital engagement.
  • Balancing technology with countercultural living.

Join us as we dive into this conversation on how technology helps reach more people with Russ Ewell.

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In this episode, we sit down with Miriam Dicks, CEO and founder of the 180 management group. She brings over 20 years of experience in transforming organizations for optimal performance both in the corporate world and in ministry.

As a seasoned professional in operations management, consulting, teaching, and leadership roles, Miriam has a wealth of knowledge to share about fostering intentional leadership cultures.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • How to be intentional with the culture you want to see.
  • Importance of shared church responsibilities in leadership growth.
  • Improving morale among your staff and volunteers.
  • Navigating cultural change in congregation sizes.

Join us as we dive into a conversation about being intentional with your leadership culture with Miriam Dicks.

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In this episode, Kacie and Scott discuss the all to common challenge that faces church leaders: Managing Your Time.

There is much to do and not much time to do it which can cause tension and stress in ministry. They talk through the problem that exists and about a virtual event coming up that is designed to help.

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In this episode, we sit down with Ron Baker, lead pastor at Vital Point Church in Ontario, Canada, a multisite church that's intentionally planting sites in small towns. He's a seasoned pastor and church planter who's embraced his church's unique kingdom assignment.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Understanding and pursuing your unique kingdom assignment.
  • Why they've embraced planting sites in small towns.
  • Overcoming comparisons among church leaders.
  • How they're engaging younger generations with their vision.

Join us as for this conversation with Ron Baker on realizing your unique kingdom assignment.

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In this episode, we sit down with Kyle Johnson, who has spent the last few decades leading teams both in the corporate world and the church. He brings a wealth of experience in team-building and operational excellence to help organizations grow and thrive authentically.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Authenticity in church leadership.
  • Handling underperforming team members.
  • Building a healthy and sustainable team culture.
  • Aligning the three trusts for greater impact.

Join us as we dive into building healthy church teams with Kyle Johnson.

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Earlier this year Scott & Kacie sat down at The Church Network Conference and answered several questions from church leaders navigating ministry today. Things like:

  • How do we increase mobile app adoption?
  • Should we embrace AI? Reject it? Be cautious?
  • What are ways to improve our data quality in our chMS?
  • Ways to improve generosity

Join us as they answer these questions (and more) and discuss all things church & tech!

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In this episode, we sit down with Stan Jantz, prolific author, longtime leader in the Christian Publishing world, and CEO of the Come and See Foundation whose mission is to share the authentic Jesus with 1 billion people through compelling storytelling.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The transformative power of biblical storytelling.
  • Engaging younger generations through media.
  • The global reach and impact of "The Chosen."
  • Expanding discipleship through innovative methods.

Join us as we dive into this conversation with Stan Jantz on using the power of story to reach people.

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In this episode, we sit down with Nathan Gaddis, President of Design 373 which provides digital strategies to help churches increase their digital presence and go where people in their community are gathered.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Engaging your community through social media.
  • Why you may need to pivot your social strategy in 2024.
  • Pitfalls of comparative social media strategies.
  • Utilizing social media beyond advertising.

Join us as we have a conversation about rethinking your church's social media strategy with Nathan Gaddis.

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In this episode, we sit down with Brad Hill who has been solving technology challenges for the church for over 20 years. He was the co-founder of Ministry Brands and now serves on the executive team at Gloo. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Technology's evolving role in ministry.
  • AI's potential for the church.
  • Framework for churches adopting new tech.
  • The importance of relationships amidst technology.
  • Gloo's recent A.I. hackathon

Join us as we dive into the future of technology for churches with Brad Hill.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jeremy Williamson, a Story Work coach and author who specializes in coaching and counseling pastors, missionaries, sabbatical coaching, and marriages. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Recognizing and healing from ministry wounds.
  • Challenging false beliefs that fuel anxiety.
  • Setting boundaries in ministry leadership roles.
  • The power of vulnerability.

Join us for this conversation with Jeremy as we unpack how to heal from ministry wounds.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jim Sheppard, CEO of Generis, and hear his interview from the last Healthy Church Summit on maximizing year-end giving campaigns.

In this interview, we discuss:

  • The significance of messaging in successful campaigns.
  • How to set goals for year-end giving based on giver behaviors.
  • Shifting the focus from transactional giving to forming and shaping individuals.
  • Practical steps and tools to prepare for a successful year-end campaign.

Join us as we dive into how to maximize your year-end giving campaign with Jim Sheppard.

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In this episode, we sit down with Alicia Lee, CEO and co-founder of Faithly (LinkedIn for Ministries). After spending nearly 20 years at Goldman Sachs, Alicia co-founded Faithly in 2022 to help cultivate community among ministry leaders. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • How to have unity despite disagreements.
  • Encouraging collaboration among church leaders.
  • The importance of intentionality in community building.
  • How Faithly is helping cultivate community among ministry leaders.

Join us as we dive into the need for community for church leaders with Alicia Lee.

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In this episode, we sit down with Chris Vacher, a long-time church leader who has spent 20 years serving as an Executive Pastor as well as overseeing Worship, Creative Arts, and Multisite positions.

Chris now focuses on helping churches faithfully realize their God-given vision by gaining organizational clarity, staff team development, and coaching senior leaders.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • The significance of character in leadership.
  • The need for intentional leadership development in churches.
  • Shifting towards team leadership for better outcomes.
  • Ways churches can better grow and cultivate leaders.
  • The role of vision, strategic planning, and organizational clarity in the church.

Join us for this conversation as we dive into the importance of leadership development in the church with Chris Vacher!

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In this episode we sit down with Mark Crain, who has a background in banking and finance and for over a decade has used that experience to educate & train churches on financial systems and best practices.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Common mistakes churches make in handling their finances.
  • The dangers of relying on a single person for financial management.
  • How to best structure financial systems in the church.
  • Best practices for stewarding church resources

Join us as we talk about the importance of financial accountability, the need for effective financial systems, and the role of stewardship in church leadership.

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In this episode, we sit down with Todd Rukes, founder and president of Rukes Search Group, a staffing firm for churches and nonprofits.

Todd has over a decade of ministry experience in various roles, including worship pastor, director of human resources, executive pastor, and senior director of communications. In this conversation, we discuss the challenges and opportunities in building a thriving church staff.

  • Mistakes pastors make when a staff member considers leaving.
  • Challenges pastors face in blending pastoral leadership with HR issues.
  • Importance of focusing on a few strong ministries for church impact.
  • Shifting towards volunteer positions and engaging church members.

Listen in as we have a conversation about building a thriving church staff team!

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In this episode, we sit down with Alaina Butler from Churches by Daniels to talk about all things church facilities. Churches by Daniels has been building churches since 1980 and are experts in all things church facilities.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • How to determine timing for a church building project.
  • The process of design and construction for churches.
  • Practical aspects of buying or retrofitting an existing building.

Join us for this conversation with Alaina Butler!

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In this episode, we sit down with Drew Young, the Systems Manager at Christ the King Community Church in Bellingham, WA. Drew brings a wealth of knowledge on using data and systems to reach people and he's passionate about leveraging technology to connect individuals to ministries and help churches thrive in the digital age.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Importance of collecting and utilizing data effectively.
  • The shift to online platforms and the significance of church websites.
  • Creating a welcoming environment through storytelling.
  • Balancing automation with a personal touch.

Join us for a conversation on the significance of data, the influence of church websites, and the skill of storytelling in fostering a thriving church community.

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In this episode, we sit down with Justin Romine, the Senior VP of Strategy at HR Ministry Solutions. Justin has a background in ministry and the corporate world which he combines to help churches and ministries create healthy cultures through effective HR strategies.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • How good HR practices help in disciple-making.
  • The significance of change management and the challenges churches face in implementing changes.
  • The impact of COVID-19 on church leadership and the need for reevaluation.
  • How investing in HR practices can create a healthy culture and support employees.

Join us as we discuss the importance of HR compliance and best practices in creating a healthy, disciple-making culture.

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The Healthy Church Summit - October 26th at 1:00 pm EST

Our next Healthy Church Summit is coming up on October 26th at 1:00 p.m. EST. We'll be talking about all things finishing 2023 strong with key learnings on:

📈 Maximizing end-of-year giving with teaching from generosity expert Jim Sheppard from Generis.
📅 Planning for 2024 with the latest in church tech trends and innovation.
🙌 Encouragement from other thriving ministries.
💻 Giveaways including a MacBook Pro, $500 Amazon Gift Card, Apple AirPods Pro, and more!

Space is filling up and we want YOU there! Register here: https://www.ministrybrands.com/healthy-church-summit/

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In this episode, we sit down with Mike Poirier, the Senior Vice President of Ministry Lending at Christian Community Credit Union. Mike brings his extensive experience in commercial lending and his passion for helping ministries grow and achieve financial goals to our conversation.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Finance stewardship for churches and ministries.
  • Trends and observations in giving and generosity during economic ups and downs.
  • Using digital tools for online giving and increasing stewardship.
  • Building strong partnerships within the church community.

Join us as we talk about increasing financial stewardship, growing generosity in your church, and how to prepare your finances for the future.

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In this episode, we sit down with Bethany Van Eps, the Church Engagement Coordinator for Made to Flourish. Bethany is passionate about empowering pastors and their churches to integrate faith and work to see communities flourishing.

In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Providing pastors with data for determining next steps.
  • Implementing a church practicum for congregations.
  • Breaking down the sacred secular divide in ministry.
  • Recognizing the value of congregants' skills and passions.

Join us as we talk about unleashing the gifts of your people, understanding the impact of skill mapping, and breaking free from the sacred secular divide.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jason Hamrock, the founder of Missional Marketing and we discuss:

  • Being missional in church marketing.
  • How to approach AI.
  • Leveraging digital opportunities for outreach.
  • The importance of having a strong online presence.

Join us as we talk about harnessing digital channels to connect with a broader community and transforming church websites into resource tools.

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In this episode, we sit down with Jeremiah Herrian, the founder of Forgotten Ministries. Jeremiah grew up on a farm in Oklahoma and has dedicated his life to serving others through ministry after seeing radical ministry on Skid Row.
In this conversation, we discuss effective ways to engage and serve our communities.

  • Mobilizing the church to meet community needs.
  • Overcoming barriers to connect with marginalized populations.
  • The power of empathy and genuine relationships.
  • Finding simple actions to make a significant impact.

Join us as we talk about how churches can better recognize the needs of their communities and take action to meet them.

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In this episode, we sit down with Katie Allred, a marketer, social media strategist, professor, and founder of ChurchCommunications.com.

Katie is an expert in communication and online communities for nonprofits, churches, and businesses. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Crafting a church communication strategy.
  • The importance of adapting to new trends and technologies.
  • Using A.I. for church communications.
  • Creating content outside the traditional mold.
  • Leveraging social media platforms.
  • The next era of church communication.

Join us as we talk about the power of AI in church communications, breaking free from the traditional content strategy, and embracing social media to engage and reach a wider audience.

Links from this episode:

  • Connect with Katie: Website | Instagram
  • Church Communications: Website | Facebook Group
  • Register for the Church Communications Conference: Register Here
  • "Church Communications: Methods and Marketing" by Katie Allred
  • "Developing Female Leaders" by Kadi Cole

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In this episode, we sit down with Jeff Dalrymple, Executive Director of the Evangelical Council for Abuse Prevention. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Steps to prevent abuse in the church.
  • Challenges and complications with background checks.
  • Creating safe places for children in our churches.
  • Having a response plan for allegations of abuse.

Join us as we talk about the keys to preventing abuse in the church, the need for greater awareness and understanding, and the importance of collaboration to create safe environments for children.

Connect With Jeff:

  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jeff-b-dalrymple/

Links Mentioned:

  • https://ecap.net/
  • https://ecap.net/resources/
  • https://apps.rainn.org/policy/
  • "Safeguards: Shielding Our Homes and Equipping Our Kids" by Julie Lowe
  • BBC World News

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In this episode, we sit down with Tali Kauflin, Executive Director of Accounts and Services at Clever Marketing. She leads the Clever team through process development, client services, leadership coaching, and personal development. She has worked in a variety of roles in ministry. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • How to think about church marketing.
  • Measuring marketing success with a kingdom mindset.
  • How to do people-first marketing.
  • Ways to improve your marketing strategies even with a smaller team.
  • Things to avoid when marketing for the church.

Join this conversation as we discuss the differences between communications and marketing, how to keep people the main focus of your marketing messaging, and ways to market the most significant message.

Connect with Tali:
LinkedIn

Connect with Clever Marketing:
Linkedin | Website

Resources Mentioned:
Book: Dream Big. Think Small. – Jeff Manion // Freedom of Self-forgetfulness by Tim Keller
Last Thing Listened to: 90’s Road Trip – Spotify Playlist
Favorite technology: Theragun or Ember Mug

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In this episode, we sit down with Ben Stapley, speaker, consultant, professor, and executive pastor at Life Christian Church. He's a creative with a diverse background including expertise in creating and capturing memorable moments for non-profits, organizations, and churches. In this conversation, we discuss:

  • Strategies for revitalizing church services.
  • How to inject creativity into the mundane.
  • Unlocking the full potential of team brainstorming.
  • Tips for maintaining innovation and creativity as a leader.

Join in as we talk about creativity in the church, how to build up your team, and lead with innovative and fresh ideas. Discover ways to stay creative as a church leader.

Links From the Show:Connect with Ben:
Linkedin | Website | Blog

Resources Mentioned:
Book: Hatch by C. McNair Wilson
Book: Canoeing the Mountains by Tod Bolsinger
Favorite Technology: MoviePro App

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In this episode, we sit down with Jason Kovacs, executive director of the Gospel Care Collective, member of the association of biblical counselors, and adjunct professor at Heritage Theological Seminary. In our conversation, we discuss the following:

  • The current state of health for today’s pastors.
  • Helpful ways to engage those struggling with mental health.
  • The importance of vulnerability, community, and friendship.
  • Practical steps to take to maintain mental health.
  • Balancing the tension of leading and shepherding others.
  • Ways Gospel Care Collective can help Church Leaders.

Join the conversation as we talk about pastoral care and mental health, how to cultivate and grow in mental health as a church leader, and ways to pursue rest in a fast-paced world.

Connect with Jason KovacsLinkedin

Connect with The Gospel Care Collective:Website

Resources Mentioned:Book Recommendation: Failure of Nerve by Edwin Friedman
Music: The National

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In the episode, we sit down with Mark MacDonald, a church communication expert with over 20 years of experience. He’s held positions as a pastor, communications director, marketing VP, creative director, and consultant to churches of all sizes.

In the conversation, we talk about:

  • Why it’s important for a church to develop a communication strategy.
  • Easy wins churches can have to improve their communication.
  • The best communication channels churches should focus on.
  • The advantage of finding outside help for branding and communication.

Listen in as we talk all things communication and dive into how churches can cut through the noise and be known for something.

Connect with Mark:
Website: https://www.beknownforsomething.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/markmac1023
LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/beknownforsomething/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BeKnownForSomething/

Subscribe to Mark’s weekly Church Communication Email:
https://www.beknownforsomething.com/subscribe/

Book Recommendation:
“Be Known for Something: Reconnect with Community by Revitalizing Your Church's Reputation” Mark MacDonald: https://amzn.to/4779JLw

Favorite Tech:
iRobot: https://www.irobot.com/en_US/roomba.html

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In this episode, we sit down with Jason Thacker, an author, assistant professor at Boyce College, and Director of the Research Institute at the Ethics and Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention. In our conversation, we talk about:

  • How to think wisely about technology.
  • How to combat the various traps of technology.
  • Approaching new technology as a church leader.
  • Ways to set healthy boundaries around technology.

Join this conversation as we discuss how to approach technology with wisdom and discernment, evaluate the tools it can bring, and pursue a healthy pace for ourselves, our organizations, and our world.

Links from the Show:Connect with Jason Thacker:
LinkedIn | Website

Resources Mentioned:
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Books: Following Jesus in a Digital Age by Jason Thacker and From the Garden to The City by John Dyer
-Favorite Piece of Technology: Kindle

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In this episode, we sit down with Clark Campbell, Founder and CEO of RVRB, a video-first agency specializing in event and branding amplification. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • The power of storytelling and social media.
  • Practical social media strategies for churches.
  • How to leverage storytelling within a mid-size church.
  • How to add value to your social media and videography

Join this conversation as we discuss how the church can strategically use social media to share the greatest message of all time, amplify what God is doing in and through your church, and use creativity and storytelling to share your message meaningfully.

Links from the show:

Connect with Clark:LinkedIn

Connect with RVRB:Instagram | YouTube | Twitter | Website

Resources Mentioned:Book: Communicating for a Change by Andy Stanley and Building a StoryBrand by Donald Miller

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Join us for part two of our conversation with Alan George as we dive into:

  • What's leadership in the church truly about?
  • The importance of measuring the immeasurable in ministry.
  • How to find rest and refuge for our souls amid the busyness of ministry.

Links from the show:

Connect with Alan George:
Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | Website | Blog | Church Website | YouTube

Resources Mentioned:Book: Freedom of Self-Forgetfulness by Tim Keller
Technology: Ring App, Amazon.com

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Kacie and Scott recently sat down with pastors and church leaders at a conference and asked “what’s going well in ministry right now?” and “what’s one component of a healthy church?”. 

In this episode, you’ll hear from church leaders across the country who are leading in different contexts and in churches of various sizes. We hope this encourages you and the work you’re doing in your ministry.

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In this episode, we sit down with Alan George, a digital ministry expert who spent 10 years as the Online Pastor at Life.Church.

In part-one one of our discussion, we cover leveraging technology to make the truth of Jesus accessible to all. In our conversation, we talk about:

  • How pastors and church leaders can leverage digital platforms to reach beyond the church walls and regularly connect people with relevant and engaging Christ-centric content.
  • Ways to avoid cold, impersonal digital interactions in your programming.
  • Why online presence could be the greatest mission field in this century.

Join us for part one as we discuss practical ways for churches to expand their digital ministry, make online experiences as warm and friendly as in-person programming, and leverage technology to build an online presence that helps draw people closer to Christ.

Links from the show:
Digital Ministry Matrix assessment

Connect with Alan George:
Instagram | Facebook | LinkedIn | Website | Blog | YouTube

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In this episode, we sit down with Holly Tate, Senior Vice President of Leadership Development at Leadr. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • Why staff development is essential.
  • Defining your priorities as a church leader.
  • Recognizing the important versus the urgent.
  • How to create a great place to work with a healthy culture.

Join the conversation as we talk about what the church is missing when it comes to leadership development, how to develop your staff in a fast-paced environment, and how to best prioritize the important from the urgent to help you become a better leader and manager of others.

Links from the show:Connect with Holly Tate:
Email | Linkedin

Connect with Leadr:
Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | LinkedIn | YouTube

Resources Mentioned:
Book: Culture Wins by Greg Berge and Radical Candor by Kim Scott
Music: Runaway by OneRepublic
Technology: Leadr

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In this episode, we sit down with Jim Sheppard, CEO and Principle at Generis. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • Leading and discipling your church towards giving.
  • Having the right mindset around money.
  • How to increase generosity in the church.
  • Digital tools and generosity.

Join the conversation as we talk about how to view generosity within the church, how to leverage your church services (and not be afraid) to talk about money, and how to cultivate and disciple your church towards heart transformation, not just transaction.

Linked from the show:

Connect with Jim
Linkedin | Website | Email

Connect with Generis
Instagram | Facebook | Linkedin

Resources mentioned:Book: Any book by Tim Keller
Music: Same God by Brandon Lake, Sugarland
Technology: Eco Thermostat

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In this episode, Scott & Kacie recap the recent Healthy Church Summit we hosted on June 1st. The Summit introduced the roadmap for Ministry Brands and shared details about the new Healthy Church Hub. In this episode, they discuss:

  • The innovation that will most impact church leaders.
  • How the Healthy Church Hub will help empower healthy churches
  • What the future looks like for connecting churches with the resources they need.

If you missed the Summit, make sure you watch the recap and sign up for and attend a demo for Ministry Brands Amplify. For those who do this through June 30th, 2023, you will be entered for a chance to win $10,000 for your ministry or a year free of Ministry Brands Amplify.

Watch the summit & sign up for a demo here: Watch the Healthy Church Summit 

No Purchase Necessary. Void where prohibited. Open to churches located in the US. See official rules for details.

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In this episode, we sit down with Mike Minter who founded and pastored Reston Bible Church in Northern Virginia for 47 years. After a successful succession, Mike has gone on to write and serve as a pastor to pastors, helping leaders to persevere while maintaining healthy rhythms.

In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • Root Causes of Why Pastors Are Leaving Ministry.
  • 3 Warning Signs for Ministry Burnout.
  • The Importance of Friendship as a Church Leader.
  • 4 Healthy Rhythms to Practice.
  • Encouragement for Those Who Want to Leave the Church.

Join the conversation as we discuss the honest turbulence that many church leaders feel, healthy habits to begin practicing, and how to stay the course of ministry.

Links from the Show:Connect with Mike Minter: Website

Resources Mentioned:Stay the Course by Mike Minter
Dangerous Calling by Paul David Tripp
CityAlight

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In this episode, we sit down with Sean Bublitz, who spent two decades in ministry (Community Christian Church and Granger Community Church) and now serves full-time as a Ministry Consultant with the Unstuck Group. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • Understanding the Church Lifecycle.
  • Self-assessing questions to understand the health of your church.
  • The biggest threat to the culture of your team.
  • Real-time research and benchmarks on the state of the church.

Join the conversation as we discuss what it looks like to assess, cultivate, and protect the health of your church.

Connect with Sean & The Unstuck Group:

Website | Twitter | Instagram | YouTube

Resources Mentioned

Unstuck Group Self AssessmentThe Unstuck Church Report: Q1 2023The Unstuck Church

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In this episode, we sit down with Nils Smith, digital marketing and ministry consultant and founder of Amplify Social Media. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • Common mistakes churches make when it comes to their digital presence.
  • The intersection of digital innovation and ministry.
  • Small steps to take to be more active on social media.
  • Advantages of outsourcing your social media.

Join the conversation as we discuss creating a digital ministry mindset, the importance of having a digital presence as a church, and ways to maximize your social media presence.
Connect with Nils:Website | Facebook | Instagram | Linkedin | YouTube | TikTok | Twitter

Connect with Amplify Social Media:Website | Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | Linkedin

Resources mentioned:Book: Emotionally Healthy Leader by Pete Scazzero
Last Thing You Listened To: The Wealthy Way Podcast by Ryan Pineda

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In this episode, we sit down with Ken Thomas, President and Founder of Connect Ministries. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • The history and impact of Connect Ministries.
  • Why camps are way more than just “something for the kids to do”.
  • How events and camps are catalysts for connection.
  • Common mistakes churches when planning for Summer camps and events.
  • How churches can develop growth opportunities for young leaders.

Join the conversation as we discuss the opportunities for growth and development that churches can have when they engage those in their community and beyond.

Links for Connect Ministries:
Instagram | Website | LinkedIn

Resources Mentioned:
Connect Camp's Student Staffer Information
Connect Camp's Free Survey

Final Five:
Book: A Legacy that Lasts

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In this episode, we sit down with Karl Vaters, teaching pastor at Cornerstone Christian Fellowship, author of multiple books, and small church leadership expert. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • How to Define a Small Church.
  • Benefits and Challenges of a Small Church.
  • How to Find Rest as a Small Church Pastor.
  • How to Measure the Health of a Small Church.

Join the conversation as we talk about the importance of being “small,” embracing the unique value your church can bring to your community, and how to thrive as a small church.

Links from the show:Connect with Karl Vaters:
Instagram |Website | Linkedin

Resources mentioned:
Book: Dirt Matters by Jim Powell
Technology: Canva

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In this episode, we sit down with Jonathan Deatherage, a church media and communications consultant who works with churches and non-profits to find the right tech solutions. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • How to create a digital communications strategy in the church.
  • Common church website mistakes.
  • How to maximize your communications channels.

Join the conversation as we talk about how digital tools can be used to create a journey that further grows your congregation.

Links from the show:

Connect with Jonathan:
Linkedin

Connect with Ministry Brands:Instagram | LinkedIn | Facebook | Website

Resources mentioned:
Book: Building a StoryBrand By Donald Miller
Favorite Technology: Alexa

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In this episode, Church Leadership Lab we talk with a Creative Arts Pastor and CEO of Creative Level Leadership, Nicole Lucas. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • Transitioning from Peer to Leader: Navigating the Change.
  • Leading Creatives: Wins and Challenges.
  • Communicating with Creatives: How Leaders Can Be Effective.
  • Relational Equity: Why it’s Important.
  • Ways to Increase Your Church’s Creativity.

Listen as Nicole shares from her years of experience leading and managing diverse creative disciplines.

Links from the show:

Connect with Nicole Lucas:
Instagram | Facebook | Linkedin | Podcast | Website

Resources mentioned:
Book: Making of a Manager - Julie Zhuo
Podcast: Hidden Brain Podcast
Favorite Technology: AirPods

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In this episode, we sit down with Jessica Bealer, the Director of Ministry Engagement at Generis. She's been leading in ministry for 22 years. Six of these were spent overseeing standards, systems, staffing, and atmosphere for the family ministry of Elevation Church. She's overseen the launch of twenty locations and is considered a specialist in multisite. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • Common hindrances to impactful family ministry.
  • How to effectively communicate your need for volunteers.
  • The biggest changes in ministry post-COVID.
  • How to be proactive in providing a safe environment for families.

Join us as we talk about ways to cultivate a healthy volunteer culture, strategically recruit volunteers, and be proactive when providing a safe environment for kids and families.

Links from the show:Connect with Jessica Bealer:Instagram | Linkedin | Twitter | Email

Resources mentioned:
Book: Lead Small - Reggie Joiner
Podcast: The Carey Nieuwhof Leadership Podcast
Favorite Technology: Evernote, Blinkist App

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Easter weekend is a busy season for church leaders. A lot of time is spent planning, preparing, and doing ministry, but what about when the weekend is over?

Hopefully, your heart is full and most likely your tank will be empty. So what do you do? How do you recover?

In this episode, Scott & Kacie give 7 practical ways (plus a bonus) that church leaders can rest well post-Easter weekend to ensure they are refueled and ready to lead their churches. 

Bible Reading Plan: Reset After Easter: A YouVersion Rest Plan for Pastors

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In this episode, we sit down with Jacob Shipley, a social media strategist who previously worked for YouVersion Bible App and is currently over the Digital Customer Experience at Tyson Foods.

In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • Creating an effective social media strategy
  • How to carefully plan your social content
  • Steps to take to repurpose your content
  • How to define success in social media as a church
  • Practical ways to keep up with changes in social media
  • Three ways to be consistent on social media without adding to your workload

Join the conversation as we talk about why social media matters and how the intersection of social media and the church can effectively reach people within and beyond your church walls.

Connect with Jacob Shipley:Linkedin | Twitter | Email: chat@howtosocialmedia.com

Resources mentioned:Book: MetaChurch by Dave Adamson
Book: Strong Fathers, Strong Daughters
Technology: Motion – Calendar App

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In this episode, we sit down with Ted Lowe, Speaker, Author, and Founder of Marriedpeople.org. In our conversation, we talk about the following:

  • Common traits of healthy marriages.
  • How your thought life and mental health can change your marriage.
  • How to identify when a marriage is becoming unhealthy.
  • How to create healthy boundaries as a church leader.
  • Ways to cultivate healthy marriages within your church.

Join the conversation as we talk about joining mental health and biblical truth, creating boundaries as a leader, and ways to cultivate healthy marriages for both church leaders and those within your congregation.

Order Ted's latest book: "Us in Mind: How Thoughts Can Change Your Marriage".

Connect with Ted Lowe:
Instagram | Website | RightNow Media

Learn more about MarriedPeople.org:
Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | Website

Resources mentioned:
Book: Atomic Habits by James Clear
Book: Us in Mind: How Thoughts Can Change Your Marriage by Ted Lowe
Music: How You Love Me by Patrick Mayberry
Tech: Pause App

Learn more about how Ministry Brands helps empower healthy churches: ministrybrands.com

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This week we sit down with Jessica Moore, a church generosity coach,  and talk about how to increase a culture of generosity at your church. In this conversation we discuss:

• Common misconceptions about increasing giving and the conversation that surrounds it.
• Low-hanging fruit for churches that will impact and help increase generosity.
• Using technology to increase biblical stewardship.

Listen now to hear how giving can bring joy and blessing to both the giver and the recipient.

Connect with Jessica MooreLinkedIn | Instagram

Resources:
Music:
Lauren Daigle Favorite Technology: Apple Watch Favorite Quote: "If you're doing your best, that's the best you can do, and that's enough."

Learn how Ministry Brands helps over 90,000 churches to accomplish their mission at ministrybrands.com

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In this episode, we sit down with Scott Sauls, Senior Pastor of Christ Presbyterian Church in Nashville, TN. In our conversation we talk about:

  • How pastors and church leaders can cultivate gentleness and humility in their leadership.
  • Ways to avoid the trap of polarization and animosity that is becoming the norm in our culture.
  • Why embracing your weakness can be your greatest strength.

Join us as we discuss practical ways to stay humble and healthy as a leader when it comes to growing platforms, experiencing big events like Easter, and your everyday ministry.

Links from the show:Connect with Scott Sauls:
Instagram | Facebook | Twitter | Website | Blog | Church Website **Resources mentioned:

Book: Dangerous Calling by Paul David Tripp Book: You Are What You Love by James Smith Spotify Playlist: Ultimate Cover**

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On this episode, we sit down with David Choate to talk about how to churches can best communicate in the digital world we live in.

Digital communications are not just about crafting a witty social media post or clickbait email. Digital communications is a way to expand the walls of your church and use digital tools as megaphones to share the good news of the Gospel.

The way you leverage digital communications as a church leader is important. In this episode, David shares with us how to balance the complex changes and challenges of digital communications with clarity and creativity.

Contact DavidLinkedIn | Email

ShareFaith Marketplace:Website | YouTube | Facebook | Twitter | Pinterest

Resources:Book: Steal Like an Artist by Austin Kleon
Book: Way of the Shepherd by Kevin Leman and William Pentak
Music: Red Headed Stranger – Willie Nelson
Favorite Technology: Chad GPT
This podcast is a resource of Ministry Brands, the largest provider of church technology. We help 90,000+ churches with an integrated platform that provides online giving, people (chMS), websites, streaming, background checks, and more all to empower healthy churches. To learn more, visit ministrybrands.com.

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On this episode, we sit down with Jenni Catron, founder & CEO of The 4Sight Group, to talk about how to improve the leadership culture in your church or ministry. Our conversation touches on:

  • Navigating the leadership gaps that have been revealed in the last few years.
  • How to gauge the quality of the culture in your organization.
  • Why flying an airplane and leading an organization is similar.
  • How expectations and clear communication are essential for a thriving organization.

Links Mentioned In the Episode:
“Strengthening the Soul of Your Leadership: Seeking God in the Crucible of Ministry” by Ruth Haley Barton.

Learn more about The 4Sight Group:
https://www.get4sight.com/
https://www.linkedin.com/company/the-4sight-group/

Connect with Jenni:
https://www.instagram.com/jennicatron/
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jennicatron/

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In this episode, Scott & Kacie discuss a list of things that are often forgotten or ignored when planning for Good Friday & Easter such as:

  • Being intentional about often-forgotten moments.
  • Planning for before, during, and after.
  • Give people what they need, not what they want.
  • Being intentional about rest.

Listen in as we share ten ways to make this your best Easter ever. 

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On this episode, we sit down with Gino Beltran who serves as the Networking & Partnerships Director with Exponential.

In our conversation we talk about: 

  • The difference between addition vs. multiplication.
  • How church planting has changed post-COVID.
  • What resources church planters today need most.
  • The vision Exponential has and some of what they're working on to fuel multiplication in the church.

Exponential 2023 is coming up March 6th-9th in Orlando, FL. Get 50% off registration with the code: SOLDOUT2023

Register here: https://exponential.org/orlando-2023/

Learn more about Exponential: exponential.org

Links From This Episode:

“Craft & Character” with Steve Carter

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In this conversation, we sit down with Steve Horton (Former Communications Director at Rolling Hills Community Church) and discuss:

  • What it’s like helping lead one of the fastest growing churches in the country.
  • Methods to ensure that you’re not just working in your ministry, but on it as well,
  • How to stop saying “no” for other people.
  • How to use automation and still be personal.

Links from this episode:

-Book recommendation: “Immeasurably More” by Jeff Simons

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In this conversation we sit down with Matt Steen from Chemistry Staffing and discuss the following:

• The effect of the great resignation on the church.
• The importance of developing the next generation of leaders.
• Marks of a healthy church staff.
• The importance of relationships in leading your team and your church.
• How to engage staff members who are thinking about leaving.

Learn more about Chemistry Staffing and the work Matt and his team are doing here: https://www.chemistrystaffing.com/

Links from this episode:
-The restaurant Kacie loved in Southern California: Nick's Manhattan Beach: http://nicksrestaurants.com/nicks-manhattan-beach/
-The book Matt recommends to church leaders: “The Pastor” Eugene Peterson.
-Last thing Matt listened to: "The Bulletin"
-Standing Stone Ministry. 

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In this episode, Scott & Kacie discuss the mission and vision behind Church Leadership Lab. They walk through the goal of the podcast which is to be a community of church leaders working to cultivate healthy churches.

Resources Mentioned:
"Atomic Habits" by James Clear
"Extreme Ownership" by Jocko Willink

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Culture is shifting. People are changing. Ministry is difficult. Church Leadership Lab is dedicated to helping navigate the road ahead.

Our podcast is a community of everyday ministry leaders encouraging one another through powerful stories, leadership lessons, and practical resources to grow healthy, local churches & impact the Kingdom.

Join us on this journey as we learn together all with the goal of helping church leaders cultivate healthy churches.