Tomayto Tomahto: Recent Episodes

Talia Sherman

I say tomayto, but you say tomahto. And that makes all the difference. From race to socioeconomic status to gender to perceived authoritativeness and intelligence, our accents communicate so much about who we are and where we're from. Led by a high school senior, this podcast explores the significance of accents, dialects, and voices in history, politics, pedagogy, and power structures.

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While legal academia is no stranger to questions of linguistics, it has been estranged (until now) from the practice of adopting linguistic theory and methods. In Part 2 of our conversation, Alex Walker and I discuss the implications of applying optimality theory (OT) to law. By utilizing the formalism of OT, Alex argues our entire legal system and conceptualization of law will change for the better. Rather than conceptualizing law as a set of rules, Alex argues we should view law as a tapestry of ordered preferences. For example, during the 51 years that Roe v. Wade dictated the “rules,” anti-abortion laws were never repealed or struck down, they were simply suppressed. Our system has never been about any given rule, but rather about the multitude of preferences continually shifting in their hierarchy. From AI judges to forum shopping, OT has something to offer the legal system both practically and Platonically.

Somewhat ironically—perhaps paradoxically—I’ve found that the application of OT to law pushes legal questions further away from linguistic ones. If law is about consequences and outcomes and why those outcomes exist, then it’s not really about the semantic change of a singular noun or the bounds of an entailment condition, right? And if law’s fulcrum isn’t language, then perhaps our legal outcomes—our laws, current precedent, and so on—shouldn’t be predicated upon questions of linguistics or deontological “rules.” But in order to come to that conclusion, perhaps we need the formalism of a linguistic theory.

Watch a short video on optimality theory here

Read about optimality theory

Alex Walker’s website

Erie Railroad Co. v. Tompkins

Asking ChatGPT for the Ordinary Meaning of Statutory Terms

Stare Decisis

The history of Arizona’s Civil War-era Abortion Ban

Center for Law, Brain & Behavior

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Legal academia is no stranger to questions of linguistics. After all, law is, in some sense, a linguistic construction. But our entire legal system interfaces with language far more than we might think. For a long time, the relationship between linguistics and law has concentrated on philosophy of language and forensic linguistics. Lawyers and linguists become friends over debates about entailment conditions or Constitutional arguments predicated upon the semantic change of a singular noun (arms, anyone?). But Alex Walker (the current Rappaport Fellow and Lecturer on Law at Harvard Law School), works not at the intersection of linguistic structure and the law, but rather on the legal system's reception of linguistic utterances. In Saussurean terms, this is about parole, not langue.

In Part 1 of our conversation, Alex explains his work on linguistic discrimination in the legal system. Why are some voices unable to be heard properly in courtrooms? What is Dialectal Due Process and how will its implementation improve the situation? While linguistic prejudice and misinterpretation are ubiquitous, the consequences can be graver when someone can’t be understood on a witness stand as opposed to a job interview. That's a key part of this conversation: the ideas discussed here closely resemble ideas and concepts discussed in the past by sociolinguists. What's different is the methodology. As a legal scholar, Alex is interested in proposing policy and legal frameworks (backed-up by philosophical, economic, and historical arguments) to address problems that are not inherently linguistic, but rather instantiated through language. Racism won't be eradicated through linguistic justice alone, and linguistic justice won't solve the problem of mass incarceration, either. This is about making sure all people are understood and respected—linguistically and legally.

As always, it was an honor to interview someone so committed to interdisciplinary scholarship. The questions I ask and the arguments he offers are nothing if not legal—litigious, even—but they are concerned with language. And if all people are to be taken seriously in legal contexts, we need to hear them first.

Alex Walker's website

Publications

Black English for Lawyers

Rappaport Fellowship

Artwork by: Maja Mishevska, Brown '27 (https://mishevska.myportfolio.com/)

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Ben Zimmer, a language columnist for the Wall Street Journal, is a self-described "linguist, lexicographer, and all-around word nut," but I think this episode proves him to be a paragon of linguistic curiosity. He's committed to bringing the nuances and complexities of language to a general audience, and all through his work on words—which, as we know, are often persona non grata in the linguistics community. But nevertheless, this episode focuses on words, specifically, their political power. Cunty, -ussy, slay, rizz, nasty woman,

Words—signifiers—have power; they can index history (re: slay), political allegiance (🍉), in groups and out groups, overt and covert prestige, age, gender, and a whole lot more. Whether it's cunty, -ussy, rizz, nasty woman, enshittification, or ucalagon, we will discuss words' potential to be used and abused for political power. What happens when language becomes a conscious phenomena wherein the symbols we invoke index a political teleology?

This episode stretches across time and space to get at the importance of language when it’s invoked in a word-like form. From Bakhtin to Saussure to discussions of Trump and Biden, this conversation is alive with the awesomeness of language.

On a personal note I would like to thank Ben for being such an inspiring figure for young language scholars like myself. Thank you for the work you do, and thank you for doing it so thoughtfully.

Ben Zimmer - WSJ

Ben Zimmer - Twitter

Traveling Among the New Words: Lexical Adventures in the Digital Age

Ben Zimmer on CNN

Slang Trends Through History

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People often talk about language as "a window" into many things. Language can teach us about the mind, the brain, history, etc. But language is also a medium for discrimination, ridicule, oppression, unequal labor, and various other insidious practices. Linguistic oppression, as Kelly Elizabeth Wright tells us, isn't really about language, it's about how practices of oppression exploit language in their conquests.

Kelly E. Wright uses language to study and address forms of oppression, labor, racism, sexism, ableism, and the ideologies of what makes something "standard." This episode will address the question of sociolinguistic labor: why it exists, why it persists, and how to address it. We discuss how language is used as a barrier, a tool for discrimination and inclusion, a proxy for race and gender and class, among other things. If nothing else, this episode will show how studying language empowers you to make a difference in the world and highlight systemic issues.

For the full, unedited version of this episode, head to youtube.

Kelly E. Wright Website

Dr. Wright's Public Scholarship

Housing Policy and Linguistic Profiling

Hearing Rachel Jeantel

You Met My Ambassador

Shifting: The Double Lives of Black Women in America

Sociolinguistics and linguistic anthropology of US Latinos

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There’s a lot that I can say about Emily M. Bender, but I think that a philosophy professor of mine said it best when he described her as the “cutting edge of technology and AI and linguistics and ethics.” Obviously some of her cutting-edge-ness concomitantly stems from the cutting-edge-ness of large language models, deep fakes, and 'artificial intelligence' inventions. But out of all the computational linguists, Emily M. Bender stands out to me because she's made the problem of unregulated AI pertinent and understandable to everyone—linguists, computer scientists, climate activists, lawyers, everyone. Her message about LLMs and other AI inventions is clear: we have to do something, and soon, preferably yesterday. Because there is great incentive for AI to remain unregulated at the cost of our democracy, our right to privacy and ownership over our data, our planet, and (as she calls it) our "information ecosystem."

This episode answers all the questions you've had about 'AI' technology: how is the language of an LLM intrinsically different from the language of a human? What are the legal implications of un-watermarked synthetic media? What's going on with deep fakes? How can linguists use their knowledge to effect change? And throughout it all, you'll hear Emily's wisdom and empathy radiating through her wealth of knowledge.

Emily's Website

Collection of links about the 'Stochastic Parrots' paper and the subsequent firing of multiple coauthors

On the Dangers of Stochastic Parrots: Can Language Models Be Too Big? 🦜

Baldwin: Understanding the link between joint attention and language

George Carlin

NBC News: Deepfake porn

Patricia Kuhl TedTalk: The Linguistic Genius of Babies

Language and Linguistics on Trial: Hearing Rachel Jeantel

Abeba Birhane

⁠Wesley Leonard ⁠

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To study language is to study something uniquely human. To study language throughout time and history is to study the evolution of something uniquely human, to determine the variables and constants which shape human existence. Historical linguistics remains one of my favorite subfields of linguistics because it’s so much more than just one subfield. To study language diachronically (through time), historical linguists can examine many different aspects of language at once. We can wonder about the social conditions that might cause semantic change, or think about biological evolution as a catalyst for sound change.

Brian Joseph (OSU) has been in the field of linguistics since the late 70s. He’s written books on everything from syntax universals, to morphology, to clitics. He’s written papers on things as specific and niche as phonesthemes, to broader concepts like the connection between historical linguistics and sociolinguistics, or the problematic of “change” and historiography. On top of all that, he was the President of the Linguistic Society of America in 2019. Needless to say, I was humbled by the chance to speak with him. This conversation encompasses questions of why and how language changes. Whether through physical, cognitive, or social means, language responds to human evolution accordingly, leaving all linguistic utterances as evidence of both our history and our future. After all, what is "synchrony" if not a contradictory quality nearly impossible to qualify?

Brian Joseph's Website

Presidential Address: What is Time?

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Picture this: it's early January, 2024, and hundreds upon hundreds of linguists have gathered for the Linguistic Society of America (LSA)'s annual meeting in New York City. With so many language nerds in one place, I couldn't help but interview as many people as I could about their favorite linguistics fact.

This episode contains tantalizing tidbits of information about everything from onomastics, non-concatenative morphology, and the McGurk effect—to historical events effecting language change, and statistics about sociolinguistic judgements. There are allusions to the debate of creole uniformitarianism vs exceptionalism, as well as examples of the Great Vowel Shift and the ongoing discussion of language's encapsulation of culture. From etymology facts, to tricky syntactic constructions, to cross-linguistic phonological observations, to the entrenchment of misogyny through language, you will be entranced and entertained for the entire episode.

The voices showcased here represent a diverse field; linguists hail from all backgrounds and subfields, and they work in industries like academia, healthcare, technology, journalism, and media. Who knew linguistics was such a versatile discipline that can totally and most definitely aid you in a lucrative career where you'll never have to worry about "tenure"??

Several interviews were filmed and posted to Nicole Holliday's tiktok page, accessible here.

Thank you to all who participated in this episode. Being a linguist is one of the greatest privileges I have ever known. I feel immeasurably lucky to be able to share that title with all of you.

Voices heard throughout the episode, in the order they appear:

Daniel Ginsberg, Director of Strategic Initiatives at the American Anthropological Association

Nicole Holliday, Professor at Pomona College

Heidi Harley, Professor at University of Arizona

Canaan Breiss, Professor at USC

Caitl Light, Academic Advisor at Loyola University Chicago

Kirby Conrod, Professor at Swarthmore College

Allison Casar, PhD candidate at University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign

Joshua Dees, PhD candidate at University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign

Walt Wolfram, Professor at North Carolina State University

Gretchen McCulloch, Internet Linguist and host of Lingthusiasm: a podcast that's enthusiastic about linguistics

Kelly Elizabeth Wright, Post-doc at Virginia Tech

Jordan Douglas Tavani, PhD candidate at UCSB

Rachel Burdin, Professor at UNH

Gabby Poplawski, Undergraduate student at Pomona College

Jamaal Muwwakkil, Post-doc at UCLA

Michel DeGraff, Professor at MIT

Aaliyah Bullen, Undergraduate student at Swarthmore College

Paul Reed, Professor at University of Alabama

Alex Johnston, Professor at Georgetown and Consultant

Brad Davidson, Director of Medical Anthropology at Havas Health and You; Penny Eckert, Professor Emeritas at Stanford

Ceci Cutler, Professor at CUNY Graduate Center and Lehman College

Valerie Fridland, Author of Like, Literally, Dude, and Professor at University of Nevada, Reno

Mike Stern, PhD student at Yale

Katie Russel, PhD candidate at UC Berkeley

Bruno Ferenc Segedin, PhD student at Brown

Alexa Little, Learning Experience Designer at Veeam Software

Emily Bender, Professor at University of Washington

Ben Zimmer, Columnist for the Wall Street Journal

Aiden Malanoski, PhD candidate at CUNY Graduate Center

Jon Stevenson, PhD candidate at University of York

Byron Ahn, Professor at Princeton

and me, Talia Sherman, Undergraduate student at Brown

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Steven Pinker, the Johnstone Family Professor of Psychology at Harvard University, has studied the mind through a myriad of lenses, including language. Throughout Steve's career, he’s published books and articles on topics such as language acquisition, rationality, human nature, trends of global violence, writing and style, and language structure. He went from academic, to public intellectual—in 2004, he was named one of Time Magazine's 100 most influential people in the world today. And inevitably, the algorithms suggested I listen to his speeches.

As a younger linguist, I spent many an hour watching Youtube videos of Steve Pinker. Through his speeches, informational videos, interviews, and TedTalks, I learned how to use language as a means to learn about humanity and cognition. I began to see language as a product of evolution and culture and society: language exists because of human existence, but also in light of human proclivities, as a tool to advance our relationships and inventions. So naturally I spiraled into jittery nervousness when he responded to my email. But as it turns out, Steve is a really nice guy. He’s brilliant, he’s famous, he’s certainly well-read, but no amount of accolades, I’ve come to realize, can darken Steve’s blinding elucidations or his ability to educate any individual, regardless of their background. This is the genius of Steve Pinker: he’s able to educate the general public about all sorts of topics without diluting the significance or complexity of his message. It was an honor to interview him not only because of his impact, but because of his passion for interdisciplinary theories and inquiry.

After explaining the trajectory of his career, Steve talks about his research on language and language acquisition, including his work on pragmatics and their social and political implications—why do humans say things like “wanna come up for Netflix and chill?”? If language is an evolutionary adaptation, how can we use that insight to better understand the evolving purpose of language? What makes language so essential to the human experience? And what’s Steve working on right now?

Steve's Website

What our language habits reveal

Linguistics, Style and Writing in the 21st Century

Linguistics as a Window to Understanding the Brain

The natural history of song

The 4th law of behavioral genetics

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Although Cory Shain (currently at MIT, soon to be at Stanford) studies language, therefore making him a “linguist,” his research could easily be classified as belonging to a number of other disciplines. To understand the computations responsible for language processing, he engages heavily with computer science. To study the functional organization and architecture of language in the brain, he uses methods of neuroscience. To round out the complexities of his research, he pulls from the theories and insights of cognitive science and psychology. Thus, Cory Shain actively questions the boundaries between language and other parts of human communication and cognition by remaining curious about how language works, not just what language is.

In this episode we first dig into the section of his research that’s dedicated to understanding the problem of difficulty in language processing. What mediates the difficulty of processing cost: a sentence's predictability or its frequency?

Then, we come to a truly awe-some question: how and why do we define what counts as language? Is language solely the processes that a specific network or cortex carries out? Can language encompass our intuitions into what someone else might be thinking? Why is there a common assumption that a language-specific network exists, and how does such an assumption influence our understanding of both the brain and of language?

No matter your previous understanding of language processing, the language network, or theory of mind, you will finish this episode having learnt something new about language, the brain, dependency locality, the importance of similar results across studies with varied methods, or perhaps the overlap between industry and academia.

Cory Shain's publications:

  • No evidence of TOM reasoning in human language network
  • Word frequency and predictability dissociate in naturalistic reading
  • Robust Effects of Working Memory Demand duringNaturalistic Language Comprehension in Language-SelectiveCortex

Eve Federenko

Language and thought are not the same thing: evidence from neuroimaging and neurological patients

Broca-Wernicke Theories: A Historical Perspective

Rebecca Saxes

Ben Deen

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I've heard it said that the best way to concretize a friendship is to interview your friend on a podcast. So that's what this episode is: a conversation between myself and my brilliant friend, Joseph Rager. Despite studying both Linguistics and Romance Languages and Literatures at Harvard during undergrad, Joseph is now pursuing a doctorate in Comparative Literature at UC Berkeley. How does his knowledge of linguistic methods and theory inform his analysis of literature and poetry? If literature is truly language, how do we study it scientifically? How can literature represent our spoken language, with all its indexicalities and quirks? Joseph and I discuss all these questions and more.

We talk about his thesis, which investigated the role of Spanglish and code switching in poetry and poetic analysis. We dive into the politics of aestheticizing of sound, of translanguaging, of linguistics itself; this episode is a reminder that language can and has been used as a means of exploitation and colonization. We express wonder and even frustration at the many barriers to education, the existence of genre, the way that language mediates our world, our conception of self, and our identity presentation. We inevitably gab about literary theory (Derrida! Barthes! Structuralism!), his favorite books, and the "brutal" world of academia—all this encapsulated in an episode that could be mistaken for a conversation between two people on a cross country flight at 3am (which, by the way, we've had).

In all teary-eyed-ness, I would like to thank Joseph for being so thoughtful, so intelligent, so kind. He's brought so much joy into my life and he will soon light up yours. I believe we can all learn from his experience and example: literature is fun, and it can be inaccessible, but at the end of the day, anything can be analyzed as a literary object. And it is the methods that matter, not the content of what you read. So start analyzing and questioning, and you might end up in academia. Which can't be such a bad place to be if people like Joseph are in it, right? Roland Barthes' The Death of the Author

Unspeakable Sentences by Ann Banfield

Tato Laviera

Nicolás Guillén

Negra, Si Tú Supieras: song based on works of Guillén, heard throughout episode

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It’s rare to meet your academic inspiration incarnate, and even rarer to take a class with them, so I was enthralled, overjoyed, and sweating my pores out when I got the chance to take Professor Nicole Holliday’s Language and Society class. This past semester, I witnessed all that Professor Holliday brings to linguistics: superb teaching, endless energy and enthusiasm, an insatiable love of learning, and innovative research methods. Her experiments seek truth and action: from politicians, to ASR, to digital voice assistants, to biracial individuals, she studies prosody and suprasegmentals, aiming to answer one question: what does it mean to sound black? Throughout this episode, Professor Holliday and I discuss the impact of her research and findings; we talk about how AI can discriminate and reinforce linguistic bias against people of marginalized identities. We parse apart theories of dialect evolution and the development of African American English, and we examine the intersections between different subfields of linguistics. Finally, Professor Holliday explains how studying language will help you make sense of the world, humans, and human invention. This is an episode for sociolinguistic nerds, avid, prospective, or otherwise.

Dr. Nicole Holliday, an Assistant Professor of Linguistics at Pomona College, is a recipient of the LSA's Early Career Award. Check out the links below. . .

Professor Holliday's Website

Professor Holliday's Google Scholar

  • ⁠Language-specific Effects on Automatic Speech Recognition Errors for World Englishes⁠
  • Holliday and Dan Villarreal--"How Black does Obama sound?": ⁠Intonational Variation and Incrementality in Listener Judgments of Ethnicity⁠
  • Perception in Black and White: Effects of Intonational Variables and Filtering Conditions on Sociolinguistic Judgments, With Implications for ASR
  • ⁠Siri, you’ve changed! Acoustic properties and racialized judgments of voice assistants⁠

Professor Holliday's Twitter

Joey Stanley, BYU

Rachel Weisler: U of Oregon

Rob Podesva: Phonation type as a stylistic variable: the use of falsetto in constructing a persona

John Rickford

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In the second episode of a non-consecutive series I'm going to call "Tomayto Tomahto with Talia's Professors," I interview Megan Zirnstein, a cognitive science professor at Pomona College. Her research focuses on bilingual cognition, a topic of particular interest throughout this episode. In addition to discussing Prof Z's research, we talk about the field of cognitive science and bilingualism research: where it's headed, where it came from, and why it's such a multidisciplinary and slightly amorphous corner of academia. And of course, in a move that will surprise no one, we talk about the Sapir-Whorf hypothesis, linguistic determinism, linguistic relativity, and the causal relationship between the emotional resonance of a language and decision making. Key topics and concepts mentioned in this episode include: psycholinguistic literature (think of Alan Green's adaptive control hypothesis), Lera Boroditsky, the eugenicist history of bilingualism research, ways to confront and address bias in research methods, and the fundamental differences between cognitive scientists and linguistics. Check out the links below to watch Lera Boroditsky, read Prof Z's research, and much more!

Prof Z's research:

  • Google Scholar -- All publications
  • Bilingualism reveals fundamental variation in language processing
  • Cognitive Control Ability Mediates Prediction Costs in Monolinguals and Bilinguals
  • On The Dynamics of Lexical Access In Two or More Languages

Literature/TedTalks mentioned throughout episode:

  • Lera Boroditsky: "How language shapes the way we think"
  • Adaptive Control Hypothesis On Bilingual Advantage
  • Language control in bilinguals: The adaptive control hypothesis
  • Behavioral evidence for differences in emotional resonance during processing first and second language

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We did it, Joe: Tomayto Tomahto has been in existence for over a year. That's one year, 12 episodes, and way too many instances of editing audio into the wee hours of the morning. But it's all been worth it.

In this episode, I'm joined by Professor Donna Jo Napoli from Swarthmore College—an absolute legend in the field of linguistics. She's an author, a mathematician, a linguist, a teacher, a dancer, and she's so, so passionate about the power of language. We talk about the intersection between math and linguistics, how biomechanics effect the lexicon of sign languages, the physical and mental properties of articulatory ease, the various social meanings of prosody, automatic processing in relation to linguistic judgments, and the joys of studying language scientifically. We touch on the difference between quantitative and qualitative linguistic studies, Donna Jo's reverence for teaching, and most importantly, how studying linguistics "frees your brain." Because it does. It will. Donna Jo's wikipedia page, articles, TedTalk, teaching profile, personal website, and more are linked below.

REACTIVE EFFORT AS A FACTOR THAT SHAPES SIGN LANGUAGE LEXICONS
Production, perception, and communicative goals of American newscaster speech

Spotlight Interview with Linguistic Society of America

Professor Napoli: Swarthmore profile

TedTalk

List of all Publications

Personal website

Wikipedia Page

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What if I told you that it was ChatGBT, not I, who wrote each and every one of these scintillating episode descriptions? Well, you'd probably laugh uncontrollably at my hilarious joke. Robots can't use the word "scintillating" correctly—or can they? Whether we like it or not, linguistically conscious AI are becoming more and more prevalent. In light of the decline in actual writing, I thought it would be prudent to interview the brilliant, funny, talented computer scientist and computational linguist, Ellie Pavlick. In addition to teaching at Brown University, Professor Pavlick is a research scientist at Google AI. We talk about natural language processing, pre-trained models, the importance of training models to both understand language form (syntax) and language meaning (semantics), and all that's still unknown about the role of language in neural nets. Noam Chomsky gets a shoutout (how could he not?), as does ChatGBT, prejudice in pre-trained models, and a few different philosophical thoughts on how teaching and writing and learning will evolve in the wake of excellent natural language processing models. Curious about Ellie Pavlick's research? Check out the links below. Questions, comments, or suggestions for the podcast? Email tomaytotomahtopodcast@gmail.com

Ellie Pavlick's teaching profile

Google Research Profile

Measuring and Reducing Gendered Correlations in Pre-trained Models

What Do Models of Natural Language "Understanding" Actually Understand

AND does not mean OR: Using Formal Languages to Study Language Models’ Representations

Colorless green ideas...

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This is a truly interdisciplinary episode. Pressor Susan Blum (Notre Dame) is an anthropologist, a cultural, linguistical, anthropologist. We talk about the intersections between linguistics, politics, legislation, food, semiotics, literary theory, pedagogy, as well as such icons as Saussure and CS Pierce. In other other words, this is a truly teleological episode, one that will teach you why and how linguistics applies to other disciplines and to the world around us. Listen, go read Professor Blum's books and articles, and then check out some of the resources below!

Courtney Cazden

Elise Berman

The Early Catastrophe by Hart and Risley

The Semiotic Perspectives of Peirce and Saussure: A Brief Comparative Study

Twenty Years after “Meaningful Differences,” It's Time to Reframe the “Deficit” Debate about the Importance of Children's Early Language Experience

What is Semiotics? Ferdinand de Saussure’s Linguistic Revolution

Peirce’s Theory of Signs

Selling the Language Gap

Chinese language and social justice

Tasty Talk, Expressive Food: An Introduction to The Semiotics of Food-and-Language

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Ladies an gentleman...the director of Brown's Language and Thought Lab: Professor Roman Feiman!! Ever wondered what the heck psychology has to do with linguistics? Well, wonder no more. Listen to this episode and learn about everything from psycholinguistics, to child language acquisition, to language and thought; semantics and pragmatics; descriptions vs grammar when mapping words to the world; philosophy of the mind; marketing techniques enhanced by an understanding of linguistics; and language as an abstract object, as the most fascinating thing to ever exist. All that, plus an excellent defense for why to study linguistics in the first place. If you're looking to learn from a genius with a PhD, I recommend this episode. If you're interested in learning about interdisciplinary research and findings, I also recommend this episode. Really, this episode is for anyone who values curiosity. In the end, there are very few tidy answers to the colossal questions Prof Feiman asks everyday, or to the slightly less colossal questions I asked him. But that's the point. Check out the links below...

Roman Feiman's Research Profile

Mapping Words to the World: Adults Prioritize Grammar, but Children Prioritize Descriptions

Reference and Definite Descriptions (Keith Donnellan)

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It is a truth universally acknowledged that Professor Toni Cook is a genius. That's why I'm taking her Intro to Linguistics class. In this episode, Prof Cook and I tackle a lot: language as a tool for social control, the importance of understanding historical linguistics, intensive vs diminutive verb reduplication, various prestigious characteristics of dialects, linguistic colonial legacies, the relationship between world-view and language, and feminist semantics. Will you be bored? No. But you will learn a lot. You will guffaw. You might even tear up. If all goes according to plan, you'll stop, drop, and become a linguist. While you're at it, go ahead and investigate the research and publications of Prof Cook...

Prosodic evidence for syntactic phrasing in Zulu 

The inclusion of prefixal material in Zulu reduplication 

Adjectival Reduplication in Zulu 

Questions? Confessions? Email tomaytotomahtopodcast@gmail.com 

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AAAaand I'm back! I'm back with a banger of an episode and a smashing success of a guest: the fabulous Robin Danzak, a professor of Communication Studies at Emerson College. Join me as she takes us on the journey (pun intended) of her career. We'll talk about language and community, bilingualism, antiracist pedagogy, and so much more. We'll travel to Italy, Florida, and New England; we'll touch on power, identity, storytelling, politics, and the importance of education. Professor Danzak is one of the most passionate and curious people I've ever had the privilege to speak with, so settle in and enjoy the next 30 min. And after you listen, check out the resources below...

April Baker Bell

  • We Been Knowin: Toward an Antiracist Language & Literacy Education
  • Dismantling anti-black linguistic racism in English language arts classrooms: Toward an anti-racist black language pedagogy

Barbara Arfe

Elaine Silliman

  • Bilingual spelling patterns in middle school: it is more than transfer

Ofelia García

  • Translanguaging
  • Clarifying translanguaging and deconstructing named languages: A perspective from linguistics

Francois Grosjean

  • Neurolinguists, beware! The bilingual is not two monolinguals in one person

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What's the relationship between language and power? Why are dialects a gatekeeper? What exactly is sociolinguistics? Join me and Professor Heather Littlefield as we discuss the relationships between language and gender, race, ethnicity, economic opportunities, and power. Any study/paper/TedTalk/article/person she mentioned in the interview is linked below. Special thanks to Molly Herman, Lindsay Villone, Eleza Kort, and, of course, Heather Littlefield. 

Ted talk by John Baugh 

Further work by John Baugh 

Leaders with Lower Voices

Vershawn Young 

"Linguistic prejudice is one of the last widely socially acceptable ways to discriminate"

Bell Hooks on the Language of Power 

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How do languages evolve? Why do dialects emerge and then fade? What happens if a language dies out? What does culture have to do with language? In this episode, Professor Luke Gorton answers all these questions and more. So please, sit back, relax, and welcome into your ears...an actual, real, linguist! 

Special thanks to Luke Gorton, Eleza Kort, and Jim Kernohan. 

If you have any questions, please feel free to email Prof Gorton at lagorton@unm.edu. 

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Welcome to episode 4, where my interviewees will answer question three: what sorts of privileges and/or limitations does your accent give you? Join me on this emotional journey as I, along with several fully grown adults, unpack our frustration over the fact that people don't talk about accents and dialects more often. Stay tuned for future episodes where I interview college professors! 

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Historic milestone alert: this is the 3rd episode of Tomayto Tomahto. I know most of you must be squealing in excitement at the very thought of this podcast's longevity, and so I'll ask you to kindly pipe down so you can fully appreciate this episode in all its glory. In this tertiary episode, you'll hear from the interviewees as they answer question two: what does your accent mean to you and what does it signify about you? All that, plus three gripping commercials centered around the theme of style and types of clothing. The next 17 minutes will be full of laughter, analytical tension, and questionable audio quality. Enjoy! 

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Welcome back to Tomayto Tomahto! For episode two, my interviewees answer question one: How do you define your accent and/or dialect? 

Special thanks to Phil Robson, John Lee, Sarah Jacobs, Kate Hamblet, Mark Connolly, Jeanine Bell, Patrice Jean-Baptiste, and Marisela Funes. 

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Welcome to Tomayto Tomahto! In this principal episode, you'll learn about accents and dialects: what they are, how they come to be, and what they communicate about a person. 

Study by Amee Shah at Stockton University

Study by Nicole Holliday at University of Pennsylvania