EMDR Chat: Recent Episodes
EMDR Professional Training
With more than 60 years combined experience in EMDR therapy, the co-founders and co-presidents of EMDR Professional Training, Curtis Rouanzoin, Ph.D., and Michelle Gottlieb, Psy.D., address subjects for the EMDR therapy clinician in practice and for psychotherapists interested in becoming trained in EMDR therapy.
EMDR Professional Training provides Basic and Advanced EMDR therapy training to mental health professionals including a supportive membership community, EMDR certification program, and advanced modules for EMDR therapy clinicians. Visit us at: emdrprofessionaltraining.com or call 949-445-6548.
What are intensives and how do they work? Should you consider this structure as something to use in your practice? In this episode Curt and Michelle talk with Amy Ikerd, EMDRIA Certified Therapist and Approved Consultant, who sheds light on various approaches and practices for intensives for clients in EMDR Therapy.
What if we could help an entire population of clients who, from historical perspective, have often been seen as beyond help? In this episode, Curt and Michelle host guest Mary Eason, PhD, who shares her background with those who struggle with psychotic symptoms and how EMDR therapy transforms the therapist’s internal response to clients and helps this population like no other.
Did you know you don’t have to abandon all other therapeutic approaches when using EMDR therapy? EMDR is actually versatile and adaptable. In this episode, Curt and Michelle talk about EMDR Therapy’s ability to integrate with various other modalities, giving you adaptive options for your clients.
EMDR Therapy was an in-person therapy for many years until Covid-19 changed the landscape for good. That’s when today’s guests, Yanick Steinbeck and Benjamin Viehauser, found their calling to “help the helpers” with their tech-based business. Hear how Yanick and Benjamin created BilateralStimulation.io, an online platform for EMDR therapists and their clients, and how virtual EMDR therapy is proving to be a highly effective way to heal the world.
How can EMDR therapy transform your couples therapy practice? Today’s episode features EMDR Trainer and couples therapy expert, Lori Cao, MA, LMFT, CSAT. Find out how you can introduce and use EMDR therapy to help couples reduce reactivity and effectively resolve trauma, ultimately creating positive outcomes for couples.
What about strong emotion in session? Should it always be grounded? In today's episode, Curt and Michelle discuss reprocessing within Siegal's Window of Tolerance and why strong emotion is not necessarily a negative in EMDR therapy.
What is Complex PTSD and how can EMDR therapy help? In today’s episode, Curt Rouanzoin, PhD and Michelle Gottlieb, PsyD explain what Complex PTSD is, the history of the diagnosis, and how EMDR therapy becomes the gold standard for trauma-informed care.
Can EMDR Therapy work in tandem with Dialectical Behavioral Therapy? According to our guest, EMDR approved Trainer, Kelly Hurley, LPC, the resounding answer is yes! Listen today to learn how these two work together to build skills and resilience in clients.
Holidays can be very difficult for people. The loss of loved ones, family crises, chaotic or toxic relationships, even natural disasters—these factors can disrupt what should be a wonderful time of the year.Listen to Curt and Michelle as they discuss the role of memory networks within the EMDR perspective and how EMDR therapy can help clients through the holidays and more.
What happens when your client experiences EMDR Therapy? And what are the effects of the work? Listen as we talk to a real EMDR therapy client who uses words and phrases like: "liberated," "free," and "easier to breathe." When trauma is de-sensitized, clients are able to see their world with new eyes, and as our guest reports, "happier and healthier than I've been in a long time."
How can we immediately stabilize those who have experienced a disastrous event? The answer, according to Dr. Gary Quinn, is ISP – Immediate Stabilization Procedure. Listen to this fascinating conversation with Dr. Quinn about the research and how this immediate stabilization technique is being used successfully, even by paraprofessionals, in current world events.
The DeTUR protocol was developed by Dr. AJ Popky, one of the pioneers of EMDR therapy, as an approach to target the cravings that lead to addiction. Learn about this effective adaptation of EMDR therapy featuring Dr. Kristen Garubba, who specializes in DeTUR and teaches our live DeTUR trainings.
What about working with people who suffer from narcissistic abuse? What does this type of abuse look like and how can clinicians help this population? This episode features an interview with EMDRIA Approved Consultant and Trainer, Candise Leininger, who has worked with multiple narcissistic abuse survivors and also holds advanced trainings in this area.
Are you working with clients who deal with chronic pain or illness? EMDR therapy for those who are physically suffering is both possible and effective. Listen as Michelle shares her area of specialty and discusses with Curt how EMDR therapy can help those who are truly hurting from the inside out.
Future Template, part of the three-pronged approach of EMDR Therapy, is one of the greatest tools for the clinician but often becomes confusing. Listen to today’s episode with Curt and Michelle as they clarify how to use future templates to their max potential with clients.
How do I correctly close a session with my client? And how many minutes should I set aside for Phase 7 Closure in EMDR therapy? In this episode, Curt and Michelle discuss what it takes to prepare your client to end an EMDR therapy session and what you can do to ensure your client is well-equipped and ready to go.
How should we conceptualize selecting a target when it comes to working with a client struggling with an eating disorder? In this Part 2 episode with Curt, Michelle, and guest Jonna Fries, address the spectrum of disordered eating as well as target selection when using EMDR Therapy for the treatment of eating disorders.
Can EMDR therapy be used to help those struggling with eating disorders? Listen to Curt, Michelle, and eating disorder specialist and EMDRIA approved Trainer and Consultant, Jonna Fries, PsyD, and find out why and how EMDR therapy can be helpful to the treatment of eating disorders and what nuances and caveats must be considered. Part 1 of a 2-part series.
Every once in a while, someone publishes an article attempting to debunk EMDR therapy. But the fact is, EMDR therapy is not only based in years of research, it is proven to work more effectively and more quickly than other methodologies. Listen to Curt and Michelle discuss why the naysayers are getting it wrong about EMDR therapy.
No matter where you are in your journey as an EMDR therapy clinician--trained, not trained yet, or thinking of the next level--your questions are answered! Curt and Michelle reveal the path of Basic Training, Certification, and further advanced levels in EMDR therapy education with information from EMDRIA requirements and standards.
How do I know if my client is ready for reprocessing in EMDR therapy? Do I just jump right in? Do I wait for certain cues? Curt and Michelle discuss the importance of knowing when your client is ready, including questions to ask yourself as the clinician and what to consider in the "dance" of reprocessing.
What is early intervention in EMDR therapy? If you're an EMDR clinician, you may have heard of it, but why should you consider adding it to your practice? Dr. Deborah Silveria joins Curt and Michelle to discuss what early intervention is and how it is used to remove trauma early and decrease the possibility of further issues down the road.
Can EMDR therapy work in the telehealth setting? While the simple answer is yes, Curt and Michelle talk about the many factors to consider when using telehealth to conduct an EMDR therapy session with a client. Listen in for a lot of practical advice in today's episode from modalities to mechanics and more!
First responders and military can benefit greatly from EMDR therapy, but it does take some preparation and awareness on the part of the clinician. In today’s podcast, Curt and Michelle welcome Donna Griffin, EMDRIA approved consultant and trainer for EMDR Professional Training, who specializes in working with this population.
If you're an EMDR therapy clinician, you've heard of Cognitive Interweaves, but you may be wondering exactly when to use one and how. In this EMDR Chat with Curt and Michelle, learn more about cognitive interweaves and appropriate situations for using this sometimes tricky tool of EMDR therapy.
Is EMDR Therapy just a fad? A theory? Hypnosis with another name? Listen to Curt and Michelle respond to recent and ongoing doubts as to the efficacy of EMDR therapy with conversation about the research and theories behind what has proven to be both effective and recommended by prominent health organizations.
Clinicians often ask us about using EMDR therapy for various populations, and the answer is often -- YES! Today, we're chatting with EMDR trainer and expert Candise Leininger about using EMDR therapy with neurodivergent clients.
While clinicians may wonder how to transition clients from talk therapy to the veritable "brain therapy" of EMDR, the move is worth it. In this episode, Curt and Michelle explain how there's no buy-in necessary once the client experiences the evidence-based standard protocol and its positive, healing results.
Which comes first? Ending Addiction? Or Treating Trauma?Most clinicians would say we should work on sobriety first—treat the addiction. EMDR therapy, in contrast, proposes that we should treat the underlying trauma, leading to addictive behaviors. In episode 9, Curt and Michelle discuss the EMDR therapy paradigm when it comes to the treatment of addictions.
Mental health professionals do important but often isolating work. If you are a trauma therapist or an EMDR therapy clinician, you know the support of a community of other clinicians is essential to your practice. Simply put, it's part of good self care while you care for your clients. Curt and Michelle talk about how you can find your community of other EMDR therapists who will support your important work.
Therapists do difficult work to be sure, and many experience vicarious trauma because of their clients’ experiences. Learn how EMDR therapy alleviates this situation for clinicians in this episode with Curt and Michelle.
What was once thought of as a psychotherapy primarily useful for PTSD, throughout the last 30 years of clinical practice and research, EMDR therapy has been found to do much more for a wide range of diagnoses. In this episode, Curt and Michelle explain the history of EMDR therapy's use and why it is used more widely today for a variety of reasons than it once was.
How do you become a trained and certified EMDR therapist? What is EMDR consultation? Your questions are answered from training to certification and the role of EMDR consultants in this episode of EMDR Chat with Curt and Michelle.
In episode 4 of EMDR Chat, Curt and Michelle discuss dissociation in depth, including adaptations that clinicians may need to use when working with those who have dissociative disorders. Learn how EMDR therapy becomes an essential part of working with all levels on the continuum of dissociation.
EMDR therapy gets a workout in this Part 1 episode when Curt and Michelle dispel the myths surrounding its effectiveness with dissociation. Listen in while EMDR Professional Training's leaders discuss the coping mechanism properties of dissociation and how the AIP model works alongside rather than against it.
Are you thinking about training in EMDR therapy? Curt and Michelle have answers to your questions! In the second episode of EMDR Chat, Curt Rouanzoin, Ph.D., and Michelle Gottlieb, Psy.D., discuss what you should consider as you choose your EMDR training. From the number of training hours to consultation availability, EMDR International Association (EMDRIA) approval and hidden costs, Curt and Michelle cover all the details for you as a psychotherapist planning to train in EMDR therapy.
In EMDR Professional Training's first episode of EMDR Chat, Curt and Michelle talk about what EMDR therapy is and why clinicians may want to be trained in EMDR therapy.