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This episode was born out of frustration.

Frustration over things we've seen and experienced within the Church of God.

But as we kept talking, the conversation began to shift inward:
What is our role in creating healthier communities? Are we focused on what we can actually controlโ€”our own actions, service, attitudes, and relationship with Godโ€”or are we spending our energy angry at everyone else?

In our latest podcast episode, four of us have a candid conversation about individual and collective repentance, self-awareness, and the difficult conversations we believe are worth having within the Church of God.

Not to shame. Not to point fingers. But to honestly ask: Where do we need to change?

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With Feast planning in full swing, we thought it was the perfect time to tackle an important question:

What actually makes a great Feast site?

In this episode, we each draft our top three Feast site qualitiesโ€”the things that help make our choices year after year. From spiritual atmosphere to fellowship opportunities and some surprisingly specific preferences, no category is safe ๐Ÿ˜„

Whether you've already picked your Feast site or you're still deciding, this conversation might give you a few new things to think about.

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Todayโ€™s episode is about religious discrimination and what happened when Dusti Howellโ€”a tenured college professorโ€”was challenged after taking time off for Godโ€™s Holy Days.

For decades, Dusti was able to observe the Holy Days without issue.

But in 2020, after returning home from the Feast of Tabernacles, he was told he could no longer take that time off without going through a new and difficult accommodation process.

What began as a workplace conflict turned into a 5 year-long legal battle - one that may help shape religious freedom protections in Kansas.

In this episode, Dusti shares what happened, what heโ€™s learned, and why this matters for others in the Church of God community.

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Today weโ€™re sharing our ๐“๐จ๐ฉ ๐Ÿ“ ๐‚๐ก๐ฎ๐ซ๐œ๐ก ๐จ๐Ÿ ๐†๐จ๐ ๐ฌ๐ฐ๐š๐  ๐ข๐ญ๐ž๐ฆ๐ฌ weโ€™ve collected over the yearsโ€”from classic throwbacks to items you probably didnโ€™t even know existed.

Itโ€™s a mix of laughs, nostalgia, and appreciating the history thatโ€™s brought us to where we are today.

Listen and tell usโ€ฆ what would be on YOUR list of favorite COG swag youโ€™ve saved?

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Movie buffs + Bible nerdsโ€ฆ this episode is for you.

Today weโ€™re asking an important question:
๐–๐ก๐ข๐œ๐ก ๐๐ข๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐ฌ๐ญ๐จ๐ซ๐ข๐ž๐ฌ ๐ฐ๐จ๐ฎ๐ฅ๐ ๐ฆ๐š๐ค๐ž ๐ข๐ง๐œ๐ซ๐ž๐๐ข๐›๐ฅ๐ž ๐ฆ๐จ๐ฏ๐ข๐ž๐ฌโ€ฆ ๐™–๐™ฃ๐™™ ๐™ฌ๐™๐™ฎ ๐™๐™–๐™จ๐™ฃโ€™๐™ฉ ๐™ƒ๐™ค๐™ก๐™ก๐™ฎ๐™ฌ๐™ค๐™ค๐™™ ๐™ข๐™–๐™™๐™š ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š๐™ข ๐™ฎ๐™š๐™ฉ?!

In this episode we pick:
๐Ÿฟ Bible stories that deserve the big screen
๐ŸŽฅ Our dream directors
โญ Our dream casts
โ€ฆand we also nominate a few Bible movies that were, letโ€™s just sayโ€ฆ ๐™ž๐™ฃ ๐™™๐™š๐™จ๐™ฅ๐™š๐™ง๐™–๐™ฉ๐™š ๐™ฃ๐™š๐™š๐™™ ๐™ค๐™› ๐™ง๐™š๐™™๐™š๐™ข๐™ฅ๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™ค๐™ฃ.

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Today weโ€™re breaking down three things that shape almost every conversation:

  1. Facts

  2. Assumptions

  3. Assessments

They may sound similar โ€” but theyโ€™re not the same. And confusing them can quietly distort how we think, judge situations, and pursue truth.

Facts donโ€™t come with a narrative attached. When weโ€™re striving for truth, we have to learn how to separate whatโ€™s ๐˜ฑ๐˜ณ๐˜ฐ๐˜ท๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜ฆ from whatโ€™s ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ต๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฑ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ต๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ โ€” and whatโ€™s simply assumption.

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In the newest episode of ๐‚๐ฅ๐ž๐š๐ง๐Œ๐ž๐ž๐ญ๐ฌ, we each choose ๐™ค๐™ช๐™ง ๐™ฉ๐™ค๐™ฅ ๐Ÿฏ ๐™›๐™–๐™ซ๐™ค๐™ง๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™š ๐™๐™ฎ๐™ข๐™ฃ๐™จ and talk about the memories, meaning, and faith tied to them. It turns into a fun, honest discussion about music in Church and how it shapes our worship.

And donโ€™t miss the YouTube version โ€” the animations make it extra fun!

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Today weโ€™re talking about a trap everyone falls into: the Appeal to Authority fallacyโ€”when we assume something is true just because an โ€œexpertโ€ (or someone influential) says it isโ€ฆ without actually looking at the evidence or whether theyโ€™re even qualified to speak on it.

From โ€œTrust the scienceโ€ to โ€œDonโ€™t trust the experts,โ€ both sides do it.

And if weโ€™re not careful, we can end up outsourcing our thinking instead of practicing discernment.

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This time, weโ€™re each sharing our ๐™ฉ๐™ค๐™ฅ 3 ๐™จ๐™ฅ๐™ž๐™ง๐™ž๐™ฉ๐™ช๐™–๐™ก๐™ก๐™ฎ ๐™ข๐™š๐™–๐™ฃ๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™œ๐™›๐™ช๐™ก ๐™จ๐™ค๐™ฃ๐™œ๐™จ ๐™—๐™ฎ ๐™จ๐™š๐™˜๐™ช๐™ก๐™–๐™ง ๐™–๐™ง๐™ฉ๐™ž๐™จ๐™ฉ๐™จโ€”songs that may not fit the โ€œChristian musicโ€ label, but carry deep personal and spiritual significance for each of us.

We laugh a lot, reflect on why we chose each song, and definitely give you some great new music to add to your playlist!

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Our brand-new podcast series ๐“๐ก๐ข๐ง๐ค ๐‘๐ž๐ฌ๐ฉ๐จ๐ง๐ฌ๐ข๐›๐ฅ๐ฒ is officially HERE!

This series is ๐™–๐™ก๐™ก ๐™–๐™—๐™ค๐™ช๐™ฉ ๐™ฉ๐™๐™š ๐™ฌ๐™–๐™ฎ ๐™ฌ๐™š ๐™ฉ๐™๐™ž๐™ฃ๐™  and how our thoughts shape our walk with God and process of conversion more than we realize. Weโ€™ll be talking cognitive biases, everyday assumptions, and what it looks like to actually ๐˜ต๐˜ฉ๐˜ช๐˜ฏ๐˜ฌ ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ๐˜ด๐˜ฑ๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ๐˜ด๐˜ช๐˜ฃ๐˜ญ๐˜บ as Christians.

Ever been so sure you understood a situationโ€”only to realize later you were wildly off? Yeahโ€ฆus too. ๐™๐™๐™ž๐™จ ๐™›๐™ž๐™ง๐™จ๐™ฉ ๐™š๐™ฅ๐™ž๐™จ๐™ค๐™™๐™š is all about learning to be a little less overconfident, a little more self-skeptical, and a LOT more surrendered to Godโ€™s authority!

๐‹๐ข๐ฌ๐ญ๐ž๐ง ๐ง๐จ๐ฐ & ๐ญ๐ž๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ฎ๐ฌ ๐จ๐ง๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐จ๐ฎ๐ ๐ก๐ญ ๐Ÿ๐ซ๐จ๐ฆ ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐ž๐ฉ๐ข๐ฌ๐จ๐๐ž ๐ญ๐ก๐š๐ญ ๐ฌ๐ญ๐ฎ๐œ๐ค ๐ฐ๐ข๐ญ๐ก ๐ฒ๐จ๐ฎ!

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Some like guitars and drums. Others prefer choirs and hymns. And sometimesโ€ฆthose preferences can quietly divide us.

In this episode, Tim & Chantelle unpack why music is so personal, how it shapes our worship, and what it means to truly respect someone elseโ€™s way of praising Godโ€”even when itโ€™s not your own.

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Mr. Francis Bergin has seen decades of church life, leadership challenges, personal strugglesโ€”and through it all, Godโ€™s faithfulness.

In todayโ€™s episode, we talk with Mr. Bergin, a long-time Church of God elder from the UK, about:
โœจ What makes leadership healthy (professionally & spiritually)
โœจ Why tradition and history matter
โœจ How he found his way into the COG
โœจ Facing depression with the reminder: this too shall pass

๐ŸŽง Available now on all platforms!

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We teased itโ€ฆ and now the first episode of Clean Meets: A CGN Podcast has officially dropped!

This isnโ€™t your typical COG podcast. The whole point? Not everything has to be serious all the time! Clean Meets is all about brethren hanging out, laughing together, and diving into lighthearted topics (still loosely tied to the Church of God).

Our first episode, we talk about each of our Top 3 Feast of Tabernacles Traditions (Think โ€œFantasy Draftโ€ style โ€” if you love football, youโ€™ll get it instantly. If you donโ€™t, donโ€™t worryโ€ฆ youโ€™ll catch on fast!)

Expect laughter, some traditions youโ€™ll totally recognize, and maybe even a few fun new ideas youโ€™ll want to try this upcoming FOT.

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Weโ€™re sitting down with Jared Lorimer, a young adult from Australia who grew up in WCGโ€ฆAFTER the splits, to talk about:

โœ”๏ธ What it was like growing up in WCG post-split
โœ”๏ธ The awkward silence around sin
โœ”๏ธ And the healing that comes when we finally bring it into the light

This is a conversation about holding onto the truth + Christ in the midst of false teachings and the courage to deal with whatโ€™s been left unsaid for too long.

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What happens when an org wants to growโ€”but doesnโ€™t have the time, tech, or bandwidth to make it happen?

Thatโ€™s where MissionAssist comes inโ€”CGNโ€™s newest program built to help lighten the load for Church of God ministries by connecting them with COG professionals who already know how to build websites, manage livestreams, handle budgets, and more.

This episode dives into:
โœ… Why we created MissionAssist
โœ… The โ€œboring but necessaryโ€ tasks that keep an org's mission moving
โœ… How project-based support keeps you in controlโ€”while giving you room to breathe

Whether you're part of a local congregation, a Feast site team, or a growing orgโ€”youโ€™ll want to hear this!

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This episode weโ€™re sitting down with ๐€๐š๐ซ๐จ๐ง ๐…๐š๐ซ๐ง๐จ๐ง, member of the COG, nonprofit director, and passionate advocate for one simple but powerful idea: ๐…๐ข๐ง๐ ๐š ๐ง๐ž๐ž๐ โ€” ๐š๐ง๐ ๐Ÿ๐ข๐ฅ๐ฅ ๐ข๐ญ.

From church service to community outreach, Aaron shares how stepping up in small (or big!) ways ๐™ฉ๐™ง๐™–๐™ฃ๐™จ๐™›๐™ค๐™ง๐™ข๐™จ ๐™ฎ๐™ค๐™ช.

Why should we throw ourselves fully into whatever we do โ€” even the โ€œsmall stuffโ€?

How do you spot needs without stepping on toes?

Why is ๐˜ค๐˜ฐ๐˜ญ๐˜ญ๐˜ข๐˜ฃ๐˜ฐ๐˜ณ๐˜ข๐˜ต๐˜ช๐˜ฐ๐˜ฏ key, especially in todayโ€™s Church of God landscape?

If youโ€™ve ever wondered ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฐ๐˜ธ to get started, or ๐˜ธ๐˜ฉ๐˜ฆ๐˜ณ๐˜ฆ your gifts could make the biggest difference, this conversation will light a fire under you.

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Ever wonder why you react a certain way in relationships? Your subconscious core beliefs might be running the show without you even realizing it!

We sat down with Debbie Caudle, licensed therapist in the COG, to talk about how these hidden beliefs shape our interactions - and how to rewrite the ones that aren't serving us.

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This week, we had ๐™๐™ž๐™˜๐™๐™–๐™ง๐™™ ๐™๐™ค๐™ฌ๐™ก๐™š๐™ง, co-founder of ๐™„๐˜พ๐™๐™’๐™‹, on to tackle some BIG questions:

โžก๏ธ How do we build bridges across COG groups?
โžก๏ธ Why is trust such a slow (but necessary) process?
โžก๏ธ What will the Church look like in the next 10 years?

Richard also shares how a ๐œ๐ซ๐จ๐ฌ๐ฌ-๐Ÿ๐ž๐ฅ๐ฅ๐จ๐ฐ๐ฌ๐ก๐ข๐ฉ ๐ž๐ฏ๐ž๐ง๐ญ ๐ข๐ง ๐ญ๐ก๐ž ๐”๐Š ๐Ÿ‡ฌ๐Ÿ‡ง brought together nearly ๐Ÿ๐ŸŽ๐ŸŽ ๐›๐ซ๐ž๐ญ๐ก๐ซ๐ž๐ง from multiple COG groupsโ€”proving that the desire to connect is stronger than ever. And with CGNโ€™s ๐™€๐™ฅ๐™๐™š๐™จ๐™ž๐™–๐™ฃ๐™จ ๐Ÿฐ ๐™‹๐™ง๐™ค๐™Ÿ๐™š๐™˜๐™ฉ, cost doesnโ€™t have to be a barrier to making these events happen!

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Robert Onsando, a minister in CGI, shares his inspiring journeyโ€”from growing up 7th Day Adventist in Kenya to finding the Church of God and dedicating his life to faith and service.

But thatโ€™s not allโ€”we also discuss:

โœจ Tackling poverty in developing countries and empowering others through skills, not dependency.

โœจ The incredible work being done through The Tabitha Outreach Foundation to break the cycle of poverty by empowering kids through education and life skills.

Take a listen, be inspired, & learn how you can more effectively help those in need!

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What happens when our social media habits shape how we engage with each other in the Church? Algorithms thrive on echo chambers and, as it turns out, they're not just a digital phenomenon! In this episode, we're unpacking how internet culture impacts the Church of God.

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This week, we dive into an incredibly insightful testimony from our guest, who shares his journey in the Philadelphia Church of God. We discuss the challenges of living in a high-control environment, what ultimately led him/his family to leave, and the impact that decision had on them and their relationships. Itโ€™s a raw and thought-provoking conversation that highlights the strength and resilience of those who step away from fringe groups.

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Join us as we sit down with licensed therapist Debbie Caudle to unpack what we went through as a community through the WCG split, subsequent church splits, and the trauma that followed.

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Data is like a treasure map - it shows gaps, patterns, and always leaves you curious for more! And who better to help us decode it than Mark-Phillip Pebworth, our resident Bioengineering PhD and CGN's Research Director?!

Mark-Phillip joins this podcast episode to help us ask the right questions and find new ways to serve the Church of God community!

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In this episode, CGN Board Members Tim and Daniel provide a behind-the-scenes look at Church of God Network's first 5 years including all of the challenges and triumphs along the way.

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Jennifer Carter joins us to discuss all things service projects! From heartwarming personal stories to tips on getting started in your local area, this one's packed with loads of tangible how-tos!

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Kelli Hogg and her family have a major passion for Youth Camps, so they use their annual fundraising event, The Boot Scoot, to raise money for them!

In this episode, we share personal stories about camp and how such an important program can rally brethren from across the Church of God to support it!

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We had the pleasure of chatting with Rolfe jones about the fascinating dynamics between first and second-generation Christians. Building on the insights from Episode 21 with Dan Apartian, we explore the shared experiences that bring us together on our spiritual path, no matter where we come from.

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Dive into our latest podcast episode featuring Mike James, a former CIA employee & current elder in Church of God, International!

We explore how to develop and use our unique skillsets to serve in the Church, the importance of avoiding groupthink, and how seeking wise counsel from diverse perspectives can help create truly effective initiatives.

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Get ready for a gripping journey in our newest podcast episode with Garry Johnson, founder of the nonprofit Covenant Concepts!

Listen in as he shares his incredible testimony - from discovery God/The Truth in prison to spreading the Good News among inmates through Covenant Concepts post-incarceration.

Covenant Concepts: https://covenantconcepts.org/

History's Greatest Escapes with Morgan Freeman: https://play.history.com/shows/great-escapes-with-morgan-freeman/season-1/episode-8

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James Navarro and Dr. Kennard Brown join us for a frank conversation on the sensitive, yet crucial, topic of issues on race in the Church of God. We discuss past and present issues and how some of our cultural and organizational policies have caused unnecessary harm to our brothers and sisters in Christ. We also explore potential solutions and the need to discuss this openly and respectfully with each other as brethren.

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Get ready to dive into a dynamic conversation on the influence of leadership in our Church community with the fantastic Jonathan Reedy! Discover the keys to trust, leadership frameworks, and how YOU play a part.

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In this episode, we sit down with Dan Apartian to discuss his viral sermon on the differences between 1st and 2nd generation Christians. What did your spiritual calling look like compared to that of your parents/grandparents? Was it extremely different or similar?

"Differences Between 1st and 2nd Generation Christians" by Dan Apartian:ย 
https://www.ucg.org/sermons/differences-between-1st-and-2nd-generation-christians-0

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In this episode, we sat down with Kelly McDonald Jr., Board President of the Bible Sabbath Association (BSA). We discuss the BSA's history, the importance of the Sabbath commandment, as well as what our posture should be toward other Sabbath keeping individuals.

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In this episode, we sat down with former UCG President Victor Kubik to listen to his story about life in the ministry.

*Correction (at 30:12 mark): Actual number of Sabbatarians in:ย 
Ukraine - 3,000
Romania - 4,000
Moldova - 3,000

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In this episode we talk with Brian Orchard (minister in COG The Father's Call) about his near death experience during COVID, the overwhelming love he received from people across the COGs, & how it inspired him to start finding ways to build bridges locally in the Body of Christ!

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In this episode, we sit down again with Stephen Russo. This time we discuss evil, how it's portrayed in media, and how society interacts with the concept. We do so largely through the lens of Aleksandr Solzhenitsyn's work "The Gulag Archipelago".

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In this episode, we sit down again with Dan Quimby. Listen to Dan's story as he shares all about his personal testimony in the faith, how he ended up in RCG, & why he eventually left.

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UCG Pastor and Beyond Today presenter, Gary Petty, joins us to discuss conflict and reconciliation in the Christian life. We cover important topics ranging from the central conflict between us and God to the need for healthy conflict resolution between Christians.

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In this episode, we got to speak with licensed psychotherapist and UCG member, Werner Solorzano. Werner wrote his thesis on how early family trauma can be a factor in sexual addiction and is very passionate about helping both young men and women work through the stigma surrounding this difficult topic so they can move on to healing.

For more information about UCG's "Light of Hope" helpline, click below:ย 
https://www.ucg.org/members/news/light-of-hope-helpline-provides-mental-health-and-addiction-resources

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Do politics and Christianity go together?ย  Daniel Russo and, fellow CGN board member, Corbin Rose discuss this hotly debated topic!

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In this episode, we sit down with Richard Fowler, Vice President of the International Centre for World Peace, to discuss how understanding and sharing Godโ€™s plan in narrative/story form is the MOST impactful way to reach others in this modern age.

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CGN President, Daniel Russo, sits down with Reinhard Klett to discuss the importance of letting go and the impact it can have on the Christian life. Reinhard is a certified high performance coach and author of the book "Letting Go Saved My Life".

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CGN Board Members, Isaac Garcia and Daniel Russo, discuss entrepreneurship, risk taking, and faith in the context of the Christian life and the Church of God.ย 

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CGN Board Member, Chantelle West, sits down with her long time friend, Julia Stewart. They discuss how an organizational split impacted them emotionally and spiritually and how they chose to maintain their close friendship through it all.

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CGN board members Daniel Russo and Tim Reynolds sit down with Dan Quimby to discuss decision making and the importance of exposure to different perspectives.

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CGN board members Daniel Russo and Chantelle Westย  sit down with Carisa Rehbein to discuss the inspiring story of Carisa's personal calling as well as the time she spent in the Restored Church of God.

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CGN board members Daniel Russo and Chantelle Westย  discuss "self-forgetfulness", a concept outlined by the Apostle Paul in I Corinthians 4:3 and expounded on in the book "The Freedom of Self-Forgetfulness" by Timothy Keller.

Daniel and Chantelle go on to discuss related topics ranging from comparing ourselves to others, surrendering to God, and the importance of seeking God's Kingdom first.

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CGN board members Daniel Russo and Tim Reynolds sit down with Blake Silverstein (COO of Christian Educational Ministries) to discuss issues surrounding the experiences of young people in the Church of God. More importantly, they ask to what extent should we even be concerned with "youth retention". The conversation starts with each sharing their own experiences growing up in the Church and how these experiences formed them as Christians.

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Daniel Russo sits down with Bob Ucci, a retired addiction counselor, to discuss compulsivity, addiction, and dealing with the God sized hole inside of all of us.

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Daniel Russo sits down with Tim Stahle and Richard Fowler to discuss a new organization they founded - the International Centre for World Peace (ICFWP).

They also discuss a central part of the ICFWP's efforts - a virtual reality model of the millennial temple in Ezekiel's vision!

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Daniel Russo sits down with fellow CGN Board Member Tim Reynolds to discuss the importance of being able to disagree in love. They tackle other related issues including: emotional intelligence, the importance of critical feedback, and navigating different personality styles.

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Church of God President (Daniel Russo) and Chief Editor (Stephen Russo) discuss the basics of what Church of God Network is as well as the goals for this podcast!