We are here to share the stories and experiences of LGBTQQIAA2S people. We look at the issues they face from around us and within our communities. We don't have all the answers; however, through discussion we find more questions and continue our path to being good stewards of our communities and better allies to those around us.
This is a big topic, and as such it makes for a longer episode. We apologize for the delay in getting it out to you and hope that you will find a lot of discussion worthy information.
On The Down Lola was so excited to welcome into the studio John Mcfly, Cornelius Hocker, and Joe Lewis to break down the Black Lives Matter movement and what exactly we are fighting for.
John Mcfly
Is not only the partner of Lola’s good Judy Thom Foolery, he is also a brilliant, funny, and wonderful friend. He is currently finishing his studies at Ball State University in social work and psychology. He serves with the U.S. armed forces and currently works as a Mental Health Technician for Riley Hospital. John has built his life around caring for others and is a vocal advocate for the rights of people of color and the LGBTQQIP2SAA communities. He is also a big fan of Lola’s.
Cornelius Hocker
Is an Indianapolis based journalist who met Lola while working on a story about a favorite Indy hotspot. He is a strong advocate for black queer and trans individuals. His travels in his work as a journalist give him a well rounded perspective on many topics. Try not to be surprised if he shows up on the podcast again.
Joe Lewis (Jo MaMa)
is a Chicago, IL based Drag entertainer and activist. Joe was the creator of the Drag March for Change that happened in Chicago on June 14, 2020. Other than being Lola’s MCM, Joe has worked hard to connect and network with the Chicago queens of color to spread the word of inequality, and inequity of both the black queer community and the black trans community.
Terms To Know * Black Lives Matter – initially as a social media response to events such as George Zimmerman’s acquittal in the shooting death of Trayvon Martin. + Growth – Quickly left the internet and became a “real world” movement. * Intersectionality – Kimberlé Williams Crenshaw in 1989 + To describe that as humans, we are each more than one thing. + For example: a black man experiences oppression for being black, but a gay black trans woman experiences a multi-layered oppression stemming from her gayness, her blackness, and her femininity. * Identity politics is a political process that brings people together based on a shared aspect of their identity.
History of Black Oppression (Outside of Law Enforcement) Center for American Progress
Police Brutality of People of Color US National Library of Medicine/National Institute of Health
| White (Non-Hispanic) | Black | Hispanic/Latinx | Native American | Asian | | Population 328.2 million (2019) | 186,482,305 | 41,371,902 | 56,500,433 | 4,013,692 | 18,215,987 | | LE Death (etimated 7,663 total: 2013-2019 | 3,378 | 1,944 | 1335 | 112 | 118 |
Resources * FBI: Use of force database – https://www.fbi.gov/services/cjis/ucr/use-of-force
* Proceedings of the National Academy of Science of the USA – https://www.pnas.org/content/116/34/16793
* US National Library of Medicine National Institute of Health – https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6080222/
* United States Census Bureau – https://www.census.gov/quickfacts/fact/table/US/PST045219
* https://mappingpoliceviolence.org/
* Center for American Progress – https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/reports/2018/02/21/447051/systematic-inequality/
https://www.americanprogress.org/issues/race/reports/2019/08/07/472617/systemic-inequality-displacement-exclusion-segregation/
* Brookings Institute – https://www.brookings.edu/articles/unequal-opportunity-race-and-education/
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Lola and Thom had a lovely chat about the state of healthcare and the SOGI communities.
Episode Notes: Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) * is tasked with ensuring the health and well-being of all Americans * HHS works to ensure that LGBT Americans, families, and communities receive equal access to health services by providing enhanced resources for LGBT health issues * They developing better information regarding LGBT health needs; and working to close the LGBT health disparities gap that currently exists.
HRC Article: “Trump-Pence Admin Moves To Undermine LGBTQ Non-Discrimination Protections in Health Care” https://www.hrc.org/blog/trump-pence-admin-moves-to-undermine-lgbtq-protections-in-health-care
What do these attacks look like? * Vice President Mike Pence and Office for Civil Rights Director Roger Severino. + Have reallocated significant resources away from civil rights and patient privacy in order to expand religious exemptions, + enacted rules that severely restrict access to reproductive health care, and undermine strong nondiscrimination protections under the Affordable Care Act. * On Friday, November 1, 2019—the first day of National Adoption Month + the HHS announced that it would not enforce strong and comprehensive regulations requiring its grantees to ensure that federal taxpayer dollars are not used to fund discrimination and that it would seek to replace these regulations with weak and ambiguous ones.
Human Rights Campaign (HRC) https://www.hrc.org/
Lola and Thom had a lovely chat about the state of healthcare and the SOGI communities.
Episode Notes: Department of Health and Human Services (HHS) * is tasked with ensuring the health and well-being of all Americans * HHS works to ensure that LGBT Americans, families, and communities receive equal access to health services by providing enhanced resources for LGBT health issues * They developing better information regarding LGBT health needs; and working to close the LGBT health disparities gap that currently exists.
HRC Article: “Trump-Pence Admin Moves To Undermine LGBTQ Non-Discrimination Protections in Health Care” https://www.hrc.org/blog/trump-pence-admin-moves-to-undermine-lgbtq-protections-in-health-care
What do these attacks look like? * Vice President Mike Pence and Office for Civil Rights Director Roger Severino. + Have reallocated significant resources away from civil rights and patient privacy in order to expand religious exemptions, + enacted rules that severely restrict access to reproductive health care, and undermine strong nondiscrimination protections under the Affordable Care Act. * On Friday, November 1, 2019—the first day of National Adoption Month + the HHS announced that it would not enforce strong and comprehensive regulations requiring its grantees to ensure that federal taxpayer dollars are not used to fund discrimination and that it would seek to replace these regulations with weak and ambiguous ones.
Human Rights Campaign (HRC) https://www.hrc.org/
On The Down Lola is breaking down the topic of Diversity & Inclusion in a series of episodes. In this episode of OTDL, Lola is joined by a good Pride Judy, Tiffany Hanson. They broke down the often over looked topic of barriers to inclusion due to language.
Tiffany works for LUNA Language Services, and Indy Pride here in the greater Indianapolis area. She is also a member of the Diversity Round Table of Central Indiana. We looked at a few barriers to inclusion due to language and some starter solutions to bridging the gap.
Some of LUNA's services:
Some Possible Solutions
Benefits of Multi-Lingual societies * Marc Ettlinger, Ph.D. in linguistics, + “…language may influence implicit cultural attitudes toward a gender, race, or other named entity. Language can also affect how stories are reported and may even influence the art of a society.” + “…a broader vocabulary can allow you to think faster, which there is ample evidence for.” * A Forbes study found that a diverse and inclusive workplace is a major driver of innovation and growth. * A study from VicHealth provides evidence that cultural diversity can enhance business performance and productivity, increase creative thinking, save time and money, reduce risk and promote staff health and wellbeing
With venues closed and entertainers stuck at home, they have taken to social media to try and save their income. Thom joined in once again and we kicked off with a wonderful example of a queen that made her "live" fame SLEEPING!
Nothing like a little quarantine boredom to get us back to recording new episodes. In this episode Lola was joined by good nerdy Judys, Thom Turner and Lylyth Faire to chat about NERDS! We broke down a little about what makes a nerd and are they as hot as we hear? the answer is YES! Ranker had a fun list of nerd interests that we broke down (link). Much of it made us think that everyone must be a nerd.
Lylyth Faire Lylyth began their journey in drag through a fun art known as cross-play. Lylyth as a lover of computer based games and make-up. For more about them, you can check out their online stuff on Twitch!
Thom Turner Thom is a nerd for many things and defiantly runs with a nerdy crew. Thom is such a nerd that he even hosts Downtown Olly’s weekly trivia night! We wouldn’t want him any other way.
Lola was joined by regular guest Thomas Turner, daughter Lylyth Faire, and comedian Gwen Sunkel to take a look at the year that was. 2019 was a full year and marks the end of a decade and the beginning on a new roaring twenties.
Entertainment This year saw the birth of Disney's continued expansion into the world of entertainment. They Launched Disney+, and acquired 20th Century Fox. They released quite a collection of blockbuster hits and three "Live" remakes. Outside of Disney we saw many other blockbuster hits. Jasmine Masters created the catch phrase of the year with "And I Oop!" We also saw the explosion of Lizzo. She launched into acting, voice overs, and was a supporting character in the hit film Hustlers. Her hit single "Juice" was on top of all the charts. We also saw the Country Music Awards award their first openly LGBTQ nominee with Lil Nas and his hit "Old Town Road."
World Pride 2019 Marked the first ever US held World Pride. New York city was in full rainbow mode as the World Pride celebrations also marked the 50th anniversary of the Stonewall Riots. We listened into CBS Weekend News coverage, Speeches from Bette Midler, and Lady Gaga. We also hear Woopi Goldberg's opening remarks from the opening ceremonies. The next World Pride will be in 2021 in Copenhagen, Denmark.
LGBT Around the world * India’s LGBT community protests transgender law at Delhi pride parade * Istanbul LGBT activists defy Turkish government Pride ban * LGBT activist remains in exile as Kenya upholds anti-gay laws * Supreme Court takes on cases on gay rights, discrimination * In Brunei, Sultan enacts gay sex stoning law as they take a more stringent religious stance on all their laws. * Taiwan holds Asia’s first legal gay weddings, in a boost for LGBT communities
Lastly we worked through this all that 2019 brought us in US politics. It was a lot.
Keep your ears peeled for our End Of Year Review! We will be welcoming back some of our favorite guests and chat about the year that was!
Lola was once again joined by best Judy, Thom Turner. They took a look at a few ways to analyze a companies support of LGBTQ communities. What we found is that a company's support should be based on several factors. Is a company's support of customers matched in it's support of it's employees? So many questions.
See the episode on our website for links to the resources used.
https://onthedownlola.com/shopping-lgbtq-friendly/
On Monday, November 18th, Chick-Fil-A announced that they would no longer be funding two Christian charities tied to anti-LGBTQ causes. The two charities are The Salvation Army and the Fellowship of Christian Athletes. Both organizations have taken a stance and lobbied against same sex marriage. The Salvation army also has a history of support for the controversial practice of conversion therapy. Lola takes a look into the social media reaction on both sides and asks: Is there a path back for LGBTQ people and companies with histories of anti-LGBTQ causes?
Lola met up with good judy, Thom Turner, to discuss the upcoming holidays. They opened Lola's toolbox for family survival to help those with stress about seeing family over the holidays. At the end of the day, no one is alone and mental health and self care are the highest priority.
Far too often the topics of mental illness, depression, and suicide are kept in the dark. In preparation for the American Foundation for Suicide prevention's "Out of the Darkness" suicide prevention walk in Indianapolis on September 14th, we wanted to have a discussion about suicide and the LGBTQ Communities. Thom Turner and John Proctor joined Lola Palooza to talk about mental illness, suicide and the resources out there to help.
For more information about the "Out of the Darkness" Walk & Run you can check out AFSP online.
Some of the resources we talked about:
The Trevor Project
1.866.488.7368
Trans Lifeline1.877.565.8860
SAGE LGBT Elder Hotline1.888.234.7243
National Suicide Prevention Lifeline1.800.273.8255
POLITICS. This eight letter word carries a lot of weight and isn't always the easiest thing to understand fully. In this episode, Indianapolis City Council member and Council Vice President, Zach Adamson, stops by to help Lola make more sense of the whole thing.
City Councilor representing the 17th district on Indy's near NE, near east and near southeast side of downtown. Neighborhoods include the Martindale Brightwood area, Chatham Arch, Lockerbie, Fountain Square and the western part of NESCO. Opinions here on this page are my own.
You can find out more about Zach on his webpage, AdamsonForIndy.com
Zach Adamson's Webpage
With Executive Director Terrell Parker
We we so excited to have Terrell Parker join us in the studio to chat about Indiana Pride of Color and the importance of Prides of Color and Black Pride's. We talked about how they differ and add to the larger pride events.
Indiana Pride of Color Center for Black Equity
The idea of open relationships brings with it many emotions and reactions, but what are they exactly? Thom Turner stopped by the studio to chat with us about what exactly are open relationships. Thom is a part of an open relationship and comes with some great first hand knowledge. To help guide us in our conversation we looked at 6 Rules for Doing the Whole Open Relationship Thing Right by Macaela McKenzie of Women's Health 2018. We also took a look at 8 Things People Who've Been In Open Marriages With You Understood by Kelsey Borresen of HuffPost to help us breakdown some of the myths about open relationships. Thank you Thom for you unique input. Now we are curious about your thoughts!
At the 2017 InterPride World Conference in Indianapolis, I had the opportunity to sit and chat with one of my favorite people, Cece Peniston! We chatted about her beginnings in music and her introduction into the world of Pride and LGBTQ+ people. She is a woman on a mission and I could not be more excited that she made time for us and our modest little podcast.
Lola took a look into the world of addiction and opioids in Indianapolis and the rest of the country. Huge thanks to Deandre Jackson for sharing his experiences with addiction. These are important conversations for our communities to have so that we can be aware of the issues and work to see their resolution. Join us next week as we dive into part two with opioid experts to clear up fact from fiction and what does the road to recovery look like.
For More Information on the Opioid Crisis and what you can do:
www.cdc.gov/overdose/
https://www.in.gov/isdh/
We have been a touch absent lately with Pride planning, holidays, and such; however, we got together to look at the Indy gay bar scene. Indy has changed a lot in the last 10 years and we wanted to take a look at where it is right now. We looked at where drag is, where are there fun karaoke shows, and what each of our bars are doing night by night.
Next week we will be looking into the question "What is Drag?" We will definitely want to hear your input. Join us in the conversation and check out our facebook page http://www.facebook.com/OnTheDownLola for recording details. You can also email your thoughts and questions to Lola@OnTheDownLola.com.
Our first recording with a LIVE AUDIENCE! We had an awesome conversation with Bill Skaggs, Executive Director of INDYPROV, and Thomas Turner about social media and its effects in the queer community. We talked about the ever evolving role of social media and how it has influences the culture of the LGBTQI+ communities.
We record our episodes at Metro Nightclub every Wednesday at 5:30pm with regular episodes (as of now) with a live audiences. Join the conversation! See you soon.
We sat down with Indiana legend Cassidy Fellows-Sommers to talk about drag mothers. We looked at the qualifications to be a drag mother, the characteristics of a drag mother, and how the idea of drag mothers has changes through the years. We called Lola's drag mother, Della Licious in Fort Wayne, IN, to get her perspective on motherhood. It was a fun and joyful sharing of ideas. We hope you enjoy!
We are so excited for the continued growth of On The Down Lola! We started with a mission to take LGBTQI+ experiences and stories and bring them to the world. We continue to help build connections while helping ourselves and others be better stewards of our communities while learning to be better allies to others.
We have been working hard to expand our reach with new additions to our social media platform. You can now find On The Down Lola on Facebook, Instagram, Tumblr, Pinterest, and Twitter. Our podcast can be found on iTunes, Libsyn, and soon to be added Google Play, and Spotify! Our recording sessions can always be seen love on YouTube. We believe information should be easily reachable. Thank you for being a part of this journey. As always, you are always welcome to our home base at www.OnTheDownLola.com.
We love you and look forward to our next cast!
A year ago, an Indy music venue took a chance on two queens and a dream. Carrie Keel, along with Mary Fagdalane and Auntie Christ, started a show for queens that stood out for their weirdness. These queens didn't like to play by the rules that others had set before them and marched to their own drummer. Flash forward a year and their show is a huge success. We sat down with creator Carrie Keel and Auntie Christ to hear how it all went down. Sometimes finding your niche is not easy. maybe through their experiences we can learn to stop searching and start creating out place.
Just the home team! Becky, DJ Big Baby and I had a great conversation on labels. Both labels we use to identify ourselves and labels we put on others. Again, we were not trying to answer the great questions about whether they are good or bad, we were just continuing the conversation. Just looking at all the nuances and we'll let you decide.
This was such a great conversation! With the return of "Shut Up" Becky were joined by Sylvia Thomas and Korvin Bothwell. We looked into some of the issues facing the transgender community and their unique and sometimes tumultuous relationship with drag. While we may not have come to any decisive answers, we definitely gave a lot to chew on.
This week we spoke with stand-up comedian Gwen Sunkel and the Executive Director of INDYPROV Bill Skaggs. W talked about Comedy in the LGBTQI+ community. How it has been used as both weapon and shield. We also spoke about iconic figures in queer comedy. This was a very fun introspective into comedy and queer culture and I hope you enjoy!