Thursdays With ThirdPath Podcast: Recent Episodes

ThirdPath Institute

ThirdPath Institute's mission is to support individuals, leaders, organizations to develop an integrated approach to work & life

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“Couples in marriages that have been created through collaborative negotiation are in a good position to address the limitations society tries to put on their equitable relationship” (p 194)

Catherine Aponte

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Listen to expert advice from two of ThirdPath's Integrated Life Advocates. They answer your questions and help you find more sustainable approaches to work and caregiving as you navigate this summer and look ahead to the fall.

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Will Rowe, Rob Hickox and Ivan Axelrod – three leaders who are part of the ThirdPath community – share their “whole life” journeys and how they are redefining what it means to be a father and a leader.

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Christine Carter (author of Raising Happiness and The Sweet Spot) and Patrick Patterson helped us explore how to parent in a way that promotes resiliency in our children, especially as we help our teens navigate the technology of today’s modern world.

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Learn from our experts panel. Discover how parents are creating a “team at home” to manage adjusted work responsibilities, the unique needs of their families, and time to recharge during this period of crisis.

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Given the dramatically changing news, we asked 3 experts to share how they had redesigned work AND family as they cope with this unparalleled crisis - A manager of a virtual team, a Shared Care parent, and an organizational expert.

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Celebrating Diverse Roads to Work-Life Integration

Riche J. Daniel Barnes shared insights from her ground breaking book, Raising the Race. Join us to learn how African American professional women juggle work, children, marriage and their connections to the wider Black community.

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Peter Senge joined us to explore what causes burnout. Is it bad bosses? A global economy? Or because , as Derek Thompson argues, a job is no longer a job, it’s a calling. Listen as we discuss these unsettling trends, and find out if there is a better way.

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Shark Tank’s Kevin O’Leary expects his employees to work on Vacation! But learn why pioneering leaders like Brett Goldblatt (ThirdPath board member) taught us why its a bad approach for business.

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Pepper Schwartz's book, Peer Marriage, was one of the first books on Shared Care. Today she's an expert helping couples on the popular TV show Married At First Sight. Pepper joined us to talk about how families have changed over the last twenty years.

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Daring to Do Work Family and Leadership Differently - What do parents do to redesign work and family so they can follow an integrated career path? Hear from a diverse group of families who are all part of the ThirdPath community.

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Matt Schneider, co-founder of City Dads Group and ThirdPath board member joined us to celebrate Father's Day. We knew lasting change would only happen if we included men in the process. So did Matt. Now City Dads Group is helping men all across the country to redefine fatherhood for the 21st century.

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Brigid Schulte, author of Overwhelmed and director of The Better Life Lab explores with Jessica DeGroot how following an integrated approach improves our lives AND improves the way we work.

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Paul Rupert of Respectful Exits joined us to talk about the critical importance of redesigning retirement so aging workers can survive and thrive as we all live longer lives.

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Sherry Leiwant, co-president of A Better Balance, joined us to explain their work promoting paid leave as they fight to expand the choices for men and women at all income levels to care well for their families without sacrificing economic security

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Join us for an exciting announcement as we get ready to celebrate almost 20 years supporting mothers and fathers to redesign work (and careers) so they can stay actively involved in the joys and responsibilities of caring for children. We’ve also learned that this approach is key to balancing work and eldercare!

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Agnes Uhereczky from the WorkLife Hub joined Jessica DeGroot to discuss her work promoting healthy and productive work environments that support gender equity and diversity. She will bring an international perspective around the topics of labor markets, women's advancement and workplace culture.

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Jodi Detjen, management professor and co-author of ThirdPath’s article on this topic and Jennifer Fraone, director of corporate partnerships at BC’s Center on Work and Family. If we want time and energy for what’s most important – at work and at home – we need to look for win-win boundaries. Otherwise, flex becomes working nights,weekends and even on vacations.

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Mika Cross from 1MFWF joined us to discuss how together our organizations encourage both men and women to look for the unique flexibility in their jobs. Not every job can be flexed in the same way, but there is a flexible solution for every job.

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Anne-Marie Slaughter joined us to re-explore her five mandates for change and discuss why she believes - "We can renew America in line with the best of our history and ourselves, as a country that values work and family equally, and enables its citizens to live full and happy lives."

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Josh Levs and Brad Harrington talk with Jessica Degroot about paid parental leave and how it benefits all...dads, moms, families and yes even organizations! We need good public policy to make the road to integration available to all.

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Matt Becker, founder of Mom and Dad Money talked with Jessica DeGroot about how we can redesign work, family, and our financial choices to help us better follow our dreams.

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Two amazing dads from the ThirdPath community share tips on balancing work and the care of school age children – navigating everything from sick days and school closings to summer vacation.

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Kristin Maschka, author of, This is Not How I Thought It Would Be, shares her twists and turns on the road to integration – including insights on what gave her the courage to ask for the changes she needed.

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Katrina Alcorn, author of Maxed Out, learned that she wasn’t alone when she hit rock bottom balancing two young children and two demanding careers. What can we do to better support new moms and dads?

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To integrate work and life we need flex but we also need managers to evaluate and monitor their team’s capacity for work. Kyra Cavanaugh, President of Life Meets Work, joined us to discuss how to put this important idea into action.

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Brigid Schulte, author of Overwhelmed, and ThirdPath’s board member, Alex Durand, joined us to discuss the smart choices you can make – right from the start of your career – as you launch an integrated approach to work and life.

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Peter Senge, author of The Fifth Discipline, launched our new season of webinars. His powerful book helps explain why the crossroads we face on the path to integration may feel challenging, but how the choices we make can also promote wider change.

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Jennifer Fraone (BCCWF) and Matt Schneider (City Dads)joined members of our millennial working group to discuss how redefining fatherhood, (motherhood!), careers and work – benefits men, women, children, organizations and society.

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Jessica DeGroot was joined by some of the amazing leaders from our 3rd biennial Pioneering Leaders Summit to discuss how they are using flex to transform their own lives, and their organizations.

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Innovators Lotte Bailyn and Joyce Fletcher have challenged companies to redefine the rules of work and family. Listen and learn why employees who follow this approach improve the way they work.

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Matt Becker, founder of Mom and Dad Money, joined us along with a group of parents to discuss how they redesigned work, family and their financial choices to help them follow their dreams.

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Brigid Schulte, author of the book 'Overwhelmed', and Ben Applegate, inventor of the term “episodic vs chronic overwork” joined us for a thought provoking discussion around managing overwork.

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Sara Sutton Fell, founder of FlexJobs, and two ThirdPath Pioneering Leaders discussed the opportunities and challenges of creating flexible workplaces that truly support work and life.

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Jennifer Deal, author of, What Millennials Want from Work, shared research showing how millennials want many of the same things ThirdPath has been advocating for over 15 years

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The 2016-17 Thursday webinar season began with a group of pioneering thinkers discussing how millennials who make ‘smart choices’ today will increase their success in creating integrated solutions over the course of their lives.

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Anne-Marie Slaughter joined Jessica Degroot of ThirdPath & Emma Plumb of 1 Million for Work Flexibility to discuss her new book, "Unfinished Business" and the courageous conversations we all need to have to promote wider change.

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Jessica DeGroot and Amy Goyer, aging and families expert, discussed how the skills shared care parents use are similar to the ones we need when caring for aging parents.

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Christine Carter, happiness expert at UC Berkeley’s Greater Good Science Center, helped us to explore the freedom that comes from doing the right things, instead of doing everything right.

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Authors and equally sharing parents, Amy and Marc Vachon, joined Dr B. Hibbs to discuss balancing successful careers and time at home.

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Current members of our Integrated Life Advocate (ILA) community talked about some of the courageous conversations they’ve had to redesign work and caregiving.

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Two long-time ThirdPath Integrated Life Advocates discussed the courageous conversations they have had to create a shared approach to holiday planning that have created more joy and less stress.

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Michele Hickox, CFO of Independent Bank and two of her team members highlight the courageous conversations they’ve had to create a flexible work team.

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The 2015-16 Thursday webinar season began with Erin Reid and two ThirdPath board members discussing Erin’s powerful research on men and overwork, and how this perpetuates work inefficiencies for all.

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5th Annual Fathers Day Event – Join us to learn what happened at this year’s Pioneering Leaders Summit. Hear from a variety of leaders who participated in the event as they share key takeaways.

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Jackie James, Sloan Center on Aging and Work, and one of our original Shared Care dads talked about how flexibility is key to staying engaged as we age.

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Chris Madoo from Marriott International, Jeremy Anderson from FlexJobs, and Kyra Cavanaugh from Life Meets Work talked about why managing flexible teams is good for business.

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Flex Over the Long Run - Professor, advocate and blogger Scott Behson and a diverse group of dads – single, married, divorced, gay, straight – showed us how flex isn’t an alternative career path, it’s the new normal.

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Two relationship experts – B Hibbs and Stephanie Sasso – joined us to challenge the fictitious article, 'Sexless But Equal', and instead provide great insights on how to help relationships flourish.

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Carolyn & Philip Cowan (UC Berkeley) and Patrick Patterson (www.fatherhood.gov) helped us to understand how families across the economic spectrum all benefit from the active involvement of fathers.

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Two working fathers responsible for the care of their aging parents described why flex is key to helping make this meaningful chapter in our lives work well for all.

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Linda Haas, long time researcher of Sweden’s work and family policies, provided an international perspective on these issues and described how changes in public policy, workplaces and at home can support equality and flexibility for men and women.

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The 2014-15 Thursday webinar season began with participants from the White House Summit on fatherhood - Matt Schneider (City Dads) and Roger Trombley (who had lunch with the president!)- talking about the importance of the event and their own experiences as involved dads.

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Dr. Kyle Pruett joined us to talk about what fathers can do to prepare their marriages, their homes, and their emotions to better meet their child’s needs.

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Psychologist and author Dr Sara Yogev discussed how helping couples to ‘get on the same page’ when caring for children can also help you plan for a happier retirement. We also discovered that being more intentional with your time, and having these choices reflect your values, is a skill that you can make use of for a lifetime.

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Brigid Schulte author of ”Overwhelmed, Work Love and Play When No One Has the Time” joined Jessica DeGroot to examine how multiple forces – public policy, our workplaces, the actions we take in our own lives – can work in concert to create more satisfying lives for all.

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Two experts, Asha Dornfest and Jim Higley helped us discover how simplifying our lives – reducing choices, obligations, stuff, and the guilt about trying to do it it all – can open up more time for play and joy.

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Meet Shared Care couples like the ones featured in Brigid Schulte’s book. Learn how they pushed back at overwhelm to create more time for the ones they love.

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Two nonprofit leaders helped highlight why nonprofits have a lot to gain by supporting employees to live integrated lives. They also shared how they followed this path themselves.

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Benjamin Hunnicutt, Professor of Leisure Studies, described how we’ve lost track of the "American Dream" – time for family, nature, friendship and the adventures of the mind and of the spirit. We also discussed our mission to reclaim it!

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Dr. B. Hibbs explains that the key to solving most relationship problems–whether relating to money, children or chores– is through a shared sense of fairness. We also learned how to build stronger, more loving relationships through this powerful approach.

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The 2013-14 Thursday webinar season began with author Brigid Schulte and two ThirdPath Board Members discussing how leader's can push back at overwhelm, and why this benefits the leader and their workplaces.