Exploring Faith, Pursuing Grace: Recent Episodes
Kevin Pendergrass & Lee Grant
The EFPG podcast is hosted by Kevin Pendergrass and Dr. Lee Grant, two former legalists who are navigating their faith in Christ and what it means to move beyond legalism and into God‘s grace.
In this comprehensive overview of the Book of Revelation, Daniel Rogers explores the text's purpose, context, and the significance of its imagery. He emphasizes the importance of understanding Revelation as a message of hope and encouragement for early Christians facing persecution. The discussion covers the authorship, the messages to the seven churches, and the role of symbolism in conveying deeper meanings. Rogers also addresses the themes of judgment, the fall of Jerusalem, and the ultimate victory of the way of the cross, culminating in the promise of a new creation and the invitation to partake in eternal life.
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In this conversation, Daniel Rogers and Tom Wadsworth explore the concept of worship from a biblical perspective, focusing on the New Testament's teachings and the cultural context of early Christian assemblies. They discuss the distinction between normative and prescriptive approaches to worship, the significance of the term 'proskuneo' (to bow down), and the shift from physical locations to worshiping in spirit and truth. The dialogue emphasizes the importance of community participation and mutual edification in worship gatherings, advocating for a more interactive and participatory approach in modern assemblies.
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In today's episode, Daniel Rogers interviews Tom Wadsworth concerning his doctoral level research on the early Christian assemblies. Contrary to what most Christians assume, the New Testament never actually talks about a worship service. For those of us raised within the Churches of Christ, this means there is no biblical pattern for a mandatory worship service with five ritualistic acts. Instead, the early church gathered to encourage one another and to build each other up. In the show notes below, you'll find access to Tom's website and YouTube channel along with a self-guided study on "worship" in the New Testament that will take you through five important Greek words.
Tom's Website: www.tomwadsworth.com
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers interviews Scott Loyd about his journey through faith, exploring themes of deconstruction, high control religious environments, and the quest for belief beyond dogma. Scott shares his experiences growing up in a strict Pentecostal background, his transition to a more progressive faith perspective, and the impact of political events on his spiritual journey. He discusses the importance of continuous learning and questioning in faith, culminating in the release of his upcoming book, 'The God I Was Given.'
Keep up with Scot and the upcoming release of his new book The God I Was Given: https://scotloyd.com/thegodiwasgiven/
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In this engaging conversation, Daniel Rogers and Anni Ponder explore the concept of the Divine Feminine within Christianity. Anni shares her personal journey and the evolution of her faith, discussing the importance of recognizing feminine aspects of God. They delve into the implications of language, inclusivity, and the historical context of the Divine Feminine, while also addressing the balance between masculine and feminine qualities in faith. The discussion highlights the need for a more holistic understanding of God that embraces both genders, ultimately leading to a richer spiritual experience.
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In this episode of Exploring Faith Pursuing Grace, host Daniel Rogers speaks with Sally Breedlove and Willa Kane about their book series, Eighth Day Prayers. They discuss the origin of the series during the COVID-19 pandemic, the significance of the eighth day as a symbol of new creation, and the importance of scripture in prayer. The conversation explores the art of conversation with God, the impact of isolation, and practical approaches to prayer. They emphasize the target audience for the books, the incorporation of the church calendar, and the hope that their work will deepen people's relationship with God.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers reflects on his experiences in graduate school, discusses the influence of Robert Irwin, and shares insights on the relationship between marriage and how children of God are made through the lens of Galatians 3. He explores the story of Ruth, the significance of the eunuch's journey, and the overarching theme of resurrection and inclusion in the kingdom of God. The conversation emphasizes that in Christ, traditional gender roles are transcended, and all are welcomed into the faith community regardless of their background, circumstances, or ability to procreate.
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In this conversation, Daniel Rogers delves into the themes of contemplative prayer and the significance of women in the early church as highlighted in Romans Chapter 16. He emphasizes the importance of love over knowledge in spiritual pursuits and explores the roles of key figures such as Phoebe, Priscilla, Aquila, and Junia, advocating for the recognition of women's contributions to ministry. The discussion also touches on the need for unity within the church and the dangers of divisive teachings, concluding with reflections on the journey through the Book of Romans.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers explores Romans chapter 15, discussing themes of strength and weakness in faith, the importance of pleasing others over oneself, and the role of scripture in encouraging unity within the church. He emphasizes the need for acceptance and servanthood, highlighting that Christ died for all and that believers should support one another both spiritually and materially. The conversation concludes with a reflection on the impact one has on others and the importance of fostering a welcoming community.
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In this conversation, Daniel Rogers explores the themes of unity, acceptance, and love within the context of faith, particularly through the lens of Romans 14. He emphasizes the importance of accepting one another despite differences in beliefs and practices, highlighting that true unity comes from accepting others as they are, just as Christ accepted us. The discussion also touches on the dangers of judgment and the need to prioritize love and understanding in our interactions with others. Rogers encourages listeners to focus on living for the Lord and to avoid causing others to stumble in their faith, ultimately advocating for a community built on righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Spirit.
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In this conversation, Daniel Rogers delves into themes of enmity, authority, love, and the concept of salvation as presented in Romans 13. He reflects on Wendell Berry's poem about human connection and the arbitrary nature of enmity. Rogers discusses the misinterpretation of biblical texts regarding authority and the call for Christians to respond to evil with good. He emphasizes the importance of love as the fulfillment of the law urges listeners to embody the teachings of Christ in their daily lives.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers delves into Romans chapter 12, exploring themes of transformation, worship, and the roles within the body of Christ. He emphasizes the importance of living as a sacrifice, the power of genuine love, and the Christian response to evil. The discussion highlights the interconnectedness of believers and the call to overcome evil with good, providing a comprehensive understanding of Paul's teachings in Romans.
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In this conversation, Daniel Rogers delves into Romans chapter 11, exploring themes of God's mercy, the role of Israel and Gentiles, and the biases that influence scriptural interpretation. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the remnant of Israel, the inclusion of Gentiles in God's plan, and the depth of God's wisdom and mercy. The discussion encourages listeners to approach scripture with humility and an awareness of their own biases, ultimately highlighting the overarching theme of reconciliation and salvation for all people groups.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers explores themes of worry, salvation, zeal, and the importance of knowledge in faith. He discusses the nearness of the word of God and the significance of confession in achieving righteousness. The conversation emphasizes the good news of the gospel and the universal invitation to salvation, while also reflecting on Israel's response to the message.
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In this conversation, Daniel Rogers delves into Romans Chapter 9, exploring themes of predestination, election, and the future of Israel. He discusses Paul's deep sorrow for his people, the significance of the covenants, and the role of the remnant in salvation. The conversation emphasizes God's mercy and compassion for all, including Gentiles, and addresses the hypothetical nature of God's choices. Ultimately, it highlights the importance of faith over works in attaining righteousness and God's ongoing relationship with Israel.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers explores the themes of suffering, transformation, and the nature of creation as discussed in Romans. He emphasizes the importance of viewing suffering as a pathway to glory and the role of the Spirit in guiding believers through their struggles. The discussion also touches on the concept of election, highlighting that it is meant for inclusion rather than exclusion. Ultimately, the conversation reassures listeners of God's unwavering love and the assurance that nothing can separate them from it.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers explores Romans chapter 8, discussing the themes of no condemnation in Christ, the contrast between living in the flesh versus the spirit, and the transformative power of the Holy Spirit. He emphasizes the importance of love and unity among believers, arguing that true faith is expressed through love and the fruit of the Spirit. The conversation highlights the ongoing process of sanctification and the significance of understanding God as love.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers delves into Romans Chapter 7, exploring the complexities of the law, sin, and grace. He discusses the distinction between the Law of Moses and the Law of Sin and Death, emphasizing how the latter leads to spiritual bondage. Through personal reflections and biblical insights, he highlights the struggle believers face with sin and the transformative power of grace in Christ, ultimately reassuring listeners of their freedom from condemnation.
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In this podcast, Daniel Rogers discusses Romans Chapter 6, focusing on themes of sin, grace, and transformation through baptism. He shares personal anecdotes and insights on the significance of being united with Christ and living in newness of life. The discussion emphasizes the importance of faith and the transformative power of the Holy Spirit, contrasting the concepts of sin as slavery versus the freedom found in grace.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers delves into Romans Chapter 5, exploring themes of justification, grace, and the contrast between Adam and Christ. He emphasizes the importance of faith in salvation and the universal nature of sin and grace. The discussion highlights the role of hope and the nature of God's love, culminating in the understanding that grace reigns through righteousness, leading to eternal life.
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In this podcast, Daniel Rogers explores Romans Chapter 4, focusing on the themes of justification, faith, and the significance of Abraham in the context of righteousness. He discusses the relationship between faith and obedience, the role of baptism, and the implications of Christ's death and resurrection for believers. The podcast emphasizes the importance of understanding these theological concepts in light of scripture and their relevance to contemporary faith practices.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers delves into Romans chapter three, exploring the themes of righteousness, faith, and the role of the law. He discusses the advantages of the Jews, the condition of humanity, and the concept of justification by faith. The podcast emphasizes the importance of understanding the context of Paul's writings and the relationship between Jews and Gentiles in the early church. Rogers also highlights the significance of God's love and grace in the process of salvation, ultimately concluding that boasting is excluded in the face of divine grace.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers explores Romans chapter two, discussing themes of judgment, the nature of God's grace, and the importance of love and kindness over mere adherence to the law. He emphasizes that true fulfillment of the law comes from the heart and that God's judgment is impartial, focusing on the spirit of the law rather than the letter. The study also touches on the significance of kindness and mercy in leading to repentance and the dangers of hypocrisy in judgment.
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers explores the book of Romans, focusing on the different translations of the Bible and their implications for understanding scripture. He emphasizes the importance of the gospel, its foretelling in the Old Testament, and the inclusion of Gentiles in God's plan. The discussion also covers the nature of spiritual gifts, the power of the gospel, and the righteousness revealed through faith. In this conversation, Daniel Rogers delves into the themes presented in Romans, particularly focusing on the rhetorical devices used by Paul, the nature of God's wrath, the consequences of idolatry, and the importance of understanding human relationships without reducing them to labels. He emphasizes the significance of truth, the dangers of suppressing it, and how God's kindness leads to repentance rather than judgment.
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In this episode of Exploring Faith, Pursuing Grace, Daniel Rogers discusses the significance of Epiphany, shares personal updates about his health and upcoming graduate studies, and introduces the book of Romans as the focus for the season. He explores the historical context of Romans, emphasizing themes of justification, grace, and the importance of unity within the church. Daniel encourages listeners to embrace their identity in Christ and to live out their faith authentically, while also addressing the challenges of division within the church community.
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In this podcast, Daniel Rogers explores the phrase 'join the church of your choice' and its implications within the context of religious division. He discusses the quest for the true church, the question of biblical authority, and how to evaluate different churches based on the fruit of the Spirit. The podcast emphasizes that not all churches are equal and that a good church is defined by its ability to produce good fruit, rooted in love and community.
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In this conversation, Daniel Rogers and Scott McKnight discuss Scott's book 'Invisible Jesus' and his personal journey of deconstruction from a conservative Christian background. They explore the reasons behind deconstruction, the search for a more authentic faith centered on Jesus, and the implications of leaving traditional church structures. Scott emphasizes that many who deconstruct are not abandoning their faith but are seeking a deeper understanding of Jesus and a community that reflects that desire. In this conversation, Scot and Daniel explore the themes of liminality, community, and the journey of faith. They discuss the process of moving through phases of doubt and inquiry, emphasizing the importance of relationships and the freedom to question beliefs. The dialogue also touches on the concept of tolerance, the agnostic condition, and the need for churches to reorient around Jesus as the central figure of faith. Ultimately, they highlight that love is the essence of knowing God, and that true understanding comes from a place of humility and openness.
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Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
Daniel's new book (and audio book!): How a 25-Year-Old Learned He Wasn't the Only One Going to Heaven
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In this episode, Daniel Rogers addresses various Bible questions submitted by listeners during the off-season of his podcast. He discusses the timing of baptism, the practices surrounding the Lord's Supper, the importance of choosing a church that aligns with one's beliefs, and how to navigate family dynamics when dealing with legalism. Additionally, he emphasizes the significance of communion as a community meal and the inclusivity of children in these practices.
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This is the last planned episode for season 1! Season 2 is planned to launch in January. There will be a few bonus episodes between then now though. We are just giving ourselves the freedom to take a break.
In this engaging conversation, Daniel Rogers and Aram Mitchell explore themes of personal transitions, pastoral leadership, and the creative processes involved in ministry. They discuss the importance of community, the challenges of imposter syndrome, and the role of fear in personal growth. Aram shares insights from his upcoming pastoral role and the significance of spiritual formation in both personal and communal contexts. The dialogue emphasizes the need for support systems and the value of creativity in ministry, culminating in reflections on the journey of faith and leadership.
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Deborah, a prominent figure in the book of Judges, challenges the perception that women are only in the text because there are no good men available. In a male-dominated society, Deborah's leadership and influence as a judge for over 40 years is exceptional. She is one of the few judges in the Old Testament who is also titled as a prophet, highlighting her significant role in shaping the nation of Israel. Deborah's title as a mother in Israel further emphasizes the importance of motherhood, a role often marginalized in society. In this conversation, Sandy Richter discusses the character of Deborah in the book of Judges and her role as a prophet and judge in ancient Israel. Sandy highlights the significance of Deborah's leadership and the connections between her ministry and that of other biblical figures like Samuel and Moses. She also addresses the issue of women in ministry and challenges the cultural norms and biases that limit their roles. Sandy encourages both men and women to recognize and embrace their gifts and to be courageous in answering the call of the Holy Spirit.
Resources Mentioned in this Podcast
Westmont College
Epic of Eden: Deborah – Unlikely Heroes and the Book of Judges
Michelle Knight (Deborah Scholar)
The Cross and the Switchblade
Christians for Biblical Equality: Gordon Fee's article in the Priscilla Papers
A. J. Gordon - The Ministry of Women
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Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
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In this conversation, Daniel Rogers, Kyler Burk, and Jared Byas discuss the book of Jonah and how it should be interpreted. They explore the idea that Jonah may not be a historically accurate tale, but rather a work of satire, parody, or allegory. They highlight clues within the text, such as hyperbole and the use of different literary styles, that suggest a deeper meaning beyond a literal reading. They also emphasize that this perspective is not new, but has been recognized by Jewish interpreters for centuries. They argue that understanding the intended value of Jonah is more important than trying to make it fit into a specific historical framework.
The conversation explores the themes of rebirth, descent, and salvation in the book of Jonah. It delves into the significance of Jonah being swallowed by a fish and the imagery of descending into the depths. The conversation also highlights the tension between justice and grace, as seen in Jonah's reluctance to preach to the Assyrians. It emphasizes the importance of understanding the historical context and the complexity of the book's message. Additionally, the conversation touches on the intertextuality of the Bible and the need for diverse perspectives in children's Bible stories.
Jonah for Normal People Book: https://thebiblefornormalpeople.com/books-for-normal-people/john-for-normal-people-book/
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Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
Daniel's new book (and audio book!): How a 25-Year-Old Learned He Wasn't the Only One Going to Heaven
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In this episode, Daniel and Kyler discuss Acts 17 and the different perceptions of God in Greek thought. They explore the idea of an abstract, impersonal deity and the Stoic belief in a withdrawn and indifferent God. They highlight how Jesus, through the Incarnation, challenges these views and reveals a God who is compassionate, loving, and present. They also discuss Paul's approach in Athens, where he meets the people where they are and proclaims the unknown God they worship. The conversation touches on the importance of open-mindedness and intellectual discourse. They explore the themes of God's transcendence, the love of God for all people, and the abstract nature of the early church. They also touch on the concept of repentance and the different ways people come to faith. The conversation highlights the importance of studying Scripture together and invites listeners to engage in discussions on the podcast's Facebook group.
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Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
Daniel's new book (and audio book!): How a 25-Year-Old Learned He Wasn't the Only One Going to Heaven
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In this episode, Daniel and Kyler discuss the emphasis on the Holy Spirit and the inclusivity of all people in the outpouring of the Spirit. The sermon in Acts 2 is examined, focusing on the resurrection of Jesus and his exaltation as Lord and Messiah. They discuss the significance of baptism and the baptism of the Holy Spirit, highlighting the transformative power of the Holy Spirit in our lives. They caution against limiting the Holy Spirit to our intellectual understanding of scripture and emphasize the importance of experiencing the love of God through the Holy Spirit. They also talk about the danger of focusing on theories and doctrines instead of the life-giving power of Christ's wounds.
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Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
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In this conversation, Daniel Rogers interviews William Paul Young, the author of The Shack. They discuss the imagery of God as Father and why some people struggle with this concept. Young explains that many people have difficulty with the Father imagery because of negative experiences with their own fathers. He emphasizes that God as Father is a metaphor and not a literal representation, and that the best traits of a father can be found in the character and nature of God. Young also discusses the importance of healing our theology and reexamining our understanding of the Old Testament scriptures. He suggests looking for Jesus in the story and reading the scriptures literarily instead of literally.
Daniel Rogers and Paul Young discuss various theological topics, including the nature of God, the interpretation of Old Testament violence, and the concept of eternal conscious torment. They explore the idea that God is love and that everything about God should be understood through the lens of love. They also discuss the Trinity as the mutual interpenetration of the three persons without the loss of personhood. Paul Young shares insights from his book 'The Shack' and his upcoming sequel. Overall, the conversation challenges traditional theological beliefs and encourages a deeper understanding of God's love and grace.
Paul Young Podcast: https://paulyoungpodcast.com/
The Apostles' Creed by William Barclay p.189 for the distinction between the various kinds of judgment. (I have the book and can share the except with you)
Unspoken Sermons: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/1152089.Creation_in_Christ
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In this episode, Daniel and Kyler have a conversation with author, podcast host, and all around great guy Jason Clark of "Rethinking God with Tacos." We talk about "Leaving and Finding Jesus", living "from" and not "to" God, and how our mind is renewed through encountering God's kindness through Jesus. We discuss our backgrounds and experiences with faith and church. We explore the themes of deconstruction, reimagining God, and living from a place of love. We also explore the idea of the kingdom of God being present here and now, and the importance of kindness in building relationships. The conversation ends with a discussion about our favorite tacos.
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In this episode, Daniel and John Philip Newell discuss his new book "The Great Search." They explore original goodness, Celtic Christianity, and how all of us have a longing for Love, Peace, and a place to call home.
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This is a follow up of the last episode (Season 1: Episode 4). In this episode, Daniel and Kyler discuss how Kyler's new perspective on God and life has lead him to seek fellowship with Christians of other denominations.
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In this podcast, Daniel talks with Kyler Burk, a listener of Exploring Faith, Pursuing Grace. Kyler began listening to the podcast after reading Daniel's book "How a 25-Year-Old Learned He Wasn't the Only One Going to Heaven." Through the podcast, he learned about grace, mercy, and the love of God. Here's here now to tell his story.
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In this podcast, Daniel and Brian McLaren talk about his new book "Life After Doom: Wisdom and Courage for a World Falling Apart." You can find details about it here: https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/194534247-life-after-doom
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In this podcast, Daniel talks with Dr. Cheryl Bridges Johns about her recent book "Re-enchanting the Text: Discovering the Bible as Sacred, Dangerous, and Mysterious."
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Want to be on the podcast? Know someone who does? Just want to chat through Zoom about your faith journey without an audience? Use this link: https://calendly.com/danielcr2011/90min
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Tiffany Yecke Brooks is back on EFPG to talk about her new book Holy Ghosted (available April 16!). In this podcast, Tiffany and Daniel talk about spiritual anxiety, shame, and how to reread passages that have been sources of shame for us in the past.
Holy Ghosted: Spiritual Anxiety, Religious Trauma, and the Language of Abuse: Order at a Bookstore Near You!
Tiffany's Blog: https://tiffanyyeckebrooks.substack.com/
If you want to invite Tiffany to talk to your church, small group, or conference, here is her website!
Tiffany's Website: https://tiffanyyeckebrooks.com/
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Watch the video interview here: https://youtu.be/4hfxNUALIBY
Daniel and Rob talk spaceships, setups, threads, and the answers that are already within each of us.
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If all life is sacred, and if murder is intentionally taking the life of an innocent human being, and if babies are sinless (my tradition rejections original sin), then was the flood not God intentionally taking the lives of every human on earth including the innocent human babies?
What do we do with this?
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Burnout is everywhere. I think that in our post-lockdown world, we all realized just how much we needed some time to refresh. For those of us who had the privilege of staying home during the lockdown, the time we had to spend with our families was priceless. I know that’s true for me and my year as a stay-at-home dad with Cayden. But for those of us who were considered essential workers with nonessential pay, our heartache for Sabbath intensified like never before.
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In this article, we’ll be talking about an idea that I alluded to several times in 1 John: the identity of the Antichrist. Personally, I think this is something we must get right, not because we’ll go to hell if we miss it, but because it has huge implications for how we view Christian history, and more importantly, how we answer some critical issues facing the church today, namely the conversation surrounding Christian nationalism.
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How do we read the Bible? Is it okay to be nervous about what you might find after a paradigm shift? What resources might I use to help me read? I talk about all of this and more in this episode!
Helpful Resources
Lectio Divina: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lectio_Divina
Bible Hub: https://biblehub.com/
Journalistic Six: https://www.sessionlab.com/methods/the-journalistic-six
The Interpretive Journey: https://slideplayer.com/slide/1466213/
Old Texts through New Eyes: https://freedominchrist.net/dallass-books/
How to Study the Bible Free eBook: https://danielcrogers.gumroad.com/l/HowToStudyTheBible?layout=profile
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My mentor recently gave me an assignment to write a 3,000 word essay on why I do what I do... here it is! You can read it (but not the extra parts at the end) here:
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So the other day I was thinking about how I would explain to Cayden, my three-year-old, why we don’t use instruments on Sunday morning. Since there is no biblical reason to not use them, I need to have a good reason why. And I think the best answer I can give is that it is just our tradition, a tradition we enjoy and can be proud of.
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Messianic Banquet and the Kingdom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pexe5biPy_U
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In this episode, I'll be answering some questions you sent in. I struggle with anxiety and depression, so I haven't posted in a bit. It comes and goes. The highs are really high and the lows are really low.
Elders: https://danielr.net/some-thoughts-on-elders-qualifications-1/
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When you were trained to read the Scripture in a certain way, you were also taught what certain words mean. Even if you change how you read a particular verse, the words in that verse may still be affecting the story you tell yourself about God, yourself, or others. In this episode, Daniel talks about how this works and gives some thoughts on how to deal with it.
For a article on this idea, check out my recent posts: https://danielr.net/old-interpretations-still-influence-how-you-think/
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Kevin was one of the founders and original co-hosts of the Exploring Faith, Pursuing Grace podcast. He “retired” from the program around a year ago but I’ve brought him back on the show for this one episode to interview him and see what’s he up to now.
Kevin's Resources
Kevin@MyCompassLife.com
https://mycompasslife.com/
Kevin's Business Number: 256-426-9464
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The more I think about the title of this podcast, the less I like it. In this episode, I talk about why we should stop pursuing grace. The material here may or may not be from an outline of a project I'm working on... :)
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In this episode, Daniel takes us through a few passage dealing with fire, darkness, and hell. He ends the episode tracking a theme of discipline and what that has to do with the afterlife.
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Hey guys and gals! Here's some updates for you!
- I have two finals to take and I'll be DONE with undergrad - yay!
- I came down with a cold Monday night, so I wasn't able to record a podcast for you - boo!
- Upcoming guests: Shari Bishop, an Episcopal priest. And Kevin, some guy you might remember.
- My audio book is for sale. https://danielcrogers.gumroad.com/l/howaudio?layout=profile
- If you want a preview on the kind of thing I'll be talking about in my afterlife podcast, check out this sermon I did. I'm actually wearing a suit jacket instead of my preferred hiking pants and short sleeves button up... I don't like it.
- Last week I went hiking in Montreat, NC for Discovering Renewal, and it was a blast.
Daniel and his guest, Josh Frazier, talk about their similar experiences in discovering grace.
Josh's Resources:
Faith Church Winfield: https://www.facebook.com/welcometofaithchurch
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In this episode, Daniel interviews Corey Stumne, a youth pastor, tennis coach, and author, from Jacksonville Florida. Corey writes Christian fiction novels and believes preachers should use more stories in their sermons!
Corey's Resources
Corey's Website: coreystumne.comThe Man Called Messiah: https://a.co/d/denPXJjCorey's Blog: https://inspiration.org/author/corey-stumneMen at the Movies: https://www.menatthemovies.com/podcast/upCorey's Sermons and Church: https://sjcc.us/media/pmvgjv5/i-surrender Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
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Hello my friends, here is my episode on the afterlife. I talk about what I know, what I'd like to know, and what I don't know!
Resources
Hell and Mr. Fudge - movie
The Great Divorce by C.S. Lewis - book
Love Wins by Rob Bell - book
Unspoken Sermons (sermon on justice in part 3) - George MacDonald
yOuR bIbLe - spongebob meme
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In this episode, Shane joins Daniel to speak about the death penalty and the myth of redemptive violence. When I first started my pilgrimage of faith back in 2016 or so, one of the first struggles I had was balancing my developing pro-life, restorative justice worldview with things like war, death penalty, and other issues about human well-being, food, etc. I appreciate Shane's perspective and hope you can too even if you disagree with some of his conclusions.
Shane's Resources
redletterchristians.org (Shane's Site)
For Such a Time as This (Book on racial division and forgiveness)
The Early Christians in their Own Words (Book)
Executing Grace (Book)
Death Penalty Action (Site)
RAW Tools (Site)
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Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
In this podcast, I talk about feeling at home, authenticity, and some temptations I'm struggling with.
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Daniel's new book: How a 25-Year-Old Learned He Wasn't the Only One Going to Heaven
Daniel's blog: https://danielr.net
Daniel's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanielRogers
Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
In this episode, Daniel has a conversation with church historian Dr. John Young about the American Restoration Movement, what is commonly called the Stone-Campbell Movement. When did the Church of Christ begin? What do the Churches of Christ need to do today in light of membership decline?
John's Resources
John's Website: https://johnyounghistorian.com/
Visions of Restoration (Book): https://johnyounghistorian.com/visions-of-restoration/
Redrawing the Blueprints for the Early Church (Book): https://johnyounghistorian.com/redrawing-the-blueprints-for-the-early-church/
Church of Christ Celebrities (Blog): http://churchofchristcelebrities.wordpress.com/
B-Team Consulting: https://bteamconsulting.org/
Churches of Christ in the 21st Century (John's Interview): https://digitalcommons.acu.edu/coc_21stc_oralhistory/?fbclid=IwAR1foypXePiRNb5benT7IGdj3LoIqFCEIwIuC0iQhUJGj4qFJXG3loGhCYo
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Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
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In today's episode, we explore 1 Peter 3:21. This is one of the most used passages to talk about the "necessity" of baptism. Daniel explores it and a few other passages in this episode.
Resources
Lunenberg Letter: Link (I think I said the Lenneberg letter lol)
Baptism and Baths: https://youtu.be/tvRoqoyWnFU
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Daniel and Brian talk about Penal Substitutionary Atonement Theory. For many Christians, this is equivalent to the gospel, but it is not the only way Christians have talked about the atonement. In fact, it is a fairly recent development, at least in its current form, when compared to the rest of church history. Thinking back to his roots in the Restoration Movement (the Stone-Campbell Movement), Daniel thought that this interview would help us better understand the distaste that Barton W. Stone had for PSA theory.
Resources
Monster God Debate: https://youtu.be/T27av-RF2-YSinners in the Hands of a Loving God: https://waterbrookmultnomah.com/sneak-peek-sinners-in-the-hands-of-a-loving-god-by-brian-zahnd-2/Brian Zahnd: https://brianzahnd.com/Word of Life Church: https://wolc.com/
Daniel's Usual Self-promotionDaniel's new book: How a 25-Year-Old Learned He Wasn't the Only One Going to HeavenDaniel's blog: https://danielr.netDaniel's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanielRogers Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
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What are the marks of a true church? Following a certain pattern of worship? Having a "biblical" name? Or teaching truth? In this episode, Daniel argues that serving the poor and loving one another are far more important marks of a true church than doctrinal disputes and following a pattern of worship.
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In this episode, Mike, a pastor in Spokane, joins Daniel to share some of the poems and essays from his latest book, Are We Seeing This? These poems are about nature, family, and what frogs, woodpeckers, and grandparents teach us about the Divine.
Mike Christie's Resources
Mike's Church Home - All These Branches
Mike's Books (order locally!) - mikechristie.net
Robert Macfarlane - Author
Mary Oliver - Author
Brian Doyle - Author
Learning How to See - A Podcast
What We Talk About When We Talk About God - Rob Bell
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Here are my thoughts on women's roles in the Christian community!
Resources
Dallas Burdette - Women's Roles in the Christian Community
William J Webb - Slaves, Women, and Homosexuals
Loren Cunningham - Why Not Women?
Catherine Clark Kroeger - I Suffer Not a Woman
Stanley Grenz - Women in the Church
Robert Rowland - "I Permit not a Woman..." to Remain Shackled
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In this episode, Daniel and Summerlee talk about how the Tree of Life is the central try in the creation narrative, why this matters, and how this influences how we read the Bible, view the world, and live as the church. Summerlee is the Executive Director of Faith Formation and Education at Trinity Church Wall Street.
Summerlee's Resources:
Discovering Renewal retreat registration: https://montreat.org/events/renewal-2023 Trinity Church Wall Street: https://trinitywallstreet.org/ Upcoming Programs by Summerlee Check out these authors: John Walton, Carol Newsom, Ronald S Hendel, Gerhard von Rad, Stephen L Cook (Ezekiel Commentary) Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
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In this episode, Daniel talks about whether or not instrumental music is allowed in the Sunday morning assembly. Working off the foundation from his last solo episode on the regulative principle, Daniel questions whether or not there is a "pattern of worship" which one must follow.
Helpful Resources
Instrumental Music in Synagogues: My Jewish Learning
Baker Encyclopedia of the Bible: Logos
Dictionary of New Testament Background: Logos
Kevin and Lee on Instruments: EFPG
God is a Lover of Music: Dallas Burdette
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In this episode, Aram Mitchell joins Daniel to talk about a retreat Aram helps organize call Discovering Renewal. They also talk about spirituality, the wilderness, community, and sin.
Aram's Resources
From my website...Spiral Meditation: https://www.arammitchell.com/practicesReflection on being earthlings: https://www.arammitchell.com/post/earthlings Discovering Renewal retreat registration: https://montreat.org/events/renewal-2023 Wildness & Spirituality for the Common Good course through School of Global Citizenry: Peace of Wild Things: https://onbeing.org/poetry/the-peace-of-wild-things/ Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
Daniel's new book: How a 25-Year-Old Learned He Wasn't the Only One Going to Heaven
Daniel's blog: https://danielr.net
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Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
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Where do we get the idea of "five acts of worship?" The idea comes from a debate between two streams of the Reformation. In this episode, I talk about what these two streams are, why it matters, and how being aware of them may help us better understand worship, pattern theology, and the function of the church.
Resources Mentioned in the Podcast
Chairs of the Restoration
Discovering Our Roots
From Legalism to Freedom
Dallas Burdette Books
Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
Daniel's new book: How a 25-Year-Old Learned He Wasn't the Only One Going to Heaven
Daniel's blog: https://danielr.net
Daniel's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanielRogers
Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
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In this episode, Daniel interviews Sean-Alex Smith, the worship minister for the Clear Creek Church of Christ in Chattanooga, Tennessee. Sean-Alex and Daniel both came from a background who approached worship from a more transactional perspective, so they explore how their views of worship has changed, why that matters, and what a more generous approach to worship may look like.
Sean-Alex's Resources
Clear Creek Church - Website
Churches and Conferences for Inspiration
North Boulevard - YouTube
Agape Conference - Website
Otter Creek - YouTube
Monterey Church - YouTube
Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
Daniel's new book: How a 25-Year-Old Learned He Wasn't the Only One Going to Heaven
Daniel's blog: https://danielr.net
Daniel's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanielRogers
Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
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Buy Brad's book Out of the Embers today!
In this episode, Daniel is joined by Jesse as they have a conversation with Bradley Jersak, author of Out of the Embers. They talk about healthy and unhealthy forms of deconstruction, share a little bit about their faith journeys, and talk about the implications of deconstruction.
Brad's Resources
https://bradjersak.com/
Twitter: https://www.facebook.com/BradJersak/
Facebook: https://www.facebook.com/BradJersak/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/bradley.jersak/
Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
Daniel's new book: How a 25-Year-Old Learned He Wasn't the Only One Going to Heaven
Daniel's blog: https://danielr.net
Daniel's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanielRogers
Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
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You're sitting around the dinner table. Aunt Marge just passed the stuffing. As you dip out a healthy helping, Cousin Timmy starts in, "I saw you share a post about God having children around the globe... don't you know that the earth is actually..."
Unfortunately, a lot of us have been in situations where family gatherings are used as an opportunity to try to "bring us back" to the correct religious or political position. This week, for this special Thanksgiving episode, Jesse Winn joins me to talk about how to deal with bitterness and how to approach these conversations.
Jesse's Resources
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Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
Daniel's blog: https://danielr.net
Daniel's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanielRogers
Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
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In this episode, Daniel and O. B. Richardson discuss centering prayer, which is one of many pathways to contemplative prayer. It focuses on silence and the work of the Holy Spirit. Check out the suggested resources below to give centering prayer a try!
O. B.'s Resources
Central Church of Christ - Facebook
Thomas Keating - A Rising Tide of Silence (Documentary)
Thomas Keating - Open Mind, Open Heart (Book)
Thomas Keating - Invitation to Love (Book)
Cynthia Bourgeault - Centering Prayer and Inner Awakening (Book)
Cynthia Bourgeault - The Heart of Centering Prayer (Book)
Basil Pennington - Centering Prayer: Renewing an Ancient Christian Prayer Form (Book)
Centering Prayer App - Contemplative Outreach
Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
Daniel's blog: https://danielr.net
Daniel's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanielRogers
Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
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In this episode, Daniel has a conversation with Matt Dabbs, of Backyard Church and Wineskins, about planting house churches. In a day where many people cannot find a church home in a traditional "big church," perhaps planting a house church could provide a viable and fulfilling (not to mention biblical) option! See below to get started.
Matt's Resources
https://mattdabbs.com
https://www.youtube.com/wineskins
Suggested Resources for Church Planting and Discipleship
https://zume.training/
Wolfgang Simson - House Churches that Change the World (Book)
Wolfgang Simson - The House Church Book (Book)
Ying Kai - Training for Trainers
Curtis Sergeant - YouTube
2414NOW - https://2414now.net
Tim Hawkins - Disciples Unlimited
Prayer Walking - Wineskins/ Backyard Church
Global Harvest Ministries - Sierra Leone
Daniel's Usual Self-promotion
Daniel's blog: https://danielr.net
Daniel's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanielRogers
Daniel's Church Home: https://northbroad.church
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In this solo episode, Daniel reframes the question "What must I do to be saved?" Instead of focusing on where we go when we die, Daniel suggests putting more emphasis on how our faith affects the world around us.
Daniel's blog: https://danielr.net
Daniel's YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/c/DanielRogers
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We're back!!
In this episode, Lee and Daniel discuss the future of the podcast and how it will change, and other ways it will remain the same.
Find Daniel's work at https://danielr.net/
Find Dr. Dallas Burdette's work at https://freedominchrist.net/
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Well folks, this is it. The episode you never wanted to happen. After 2+ years of weekly content, Kevin and Lee have decided to bring the podcast to a close, or at the very least a hiatus.
Life is busy! Between work, kids, and all of the things life can throw at you, Kevin and Lee both need some time to pursue other ventures.
But more importantly, as we all travel the road of faith, sometimes what has been a help can become a hindrance to spiritual growth. This wasn't a decision made lightly, but it is a necessary choice.
We love you! We appreciate you! We remain available and our email will still be live, our Facebook group will remain up, and this podcast will remain up until the heat death of the universe.
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Dr. Ed Gallagher joins Kevin and Lee this week to discuss how the canon of the Hebrew Scripture (Old Testament) came to be.
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In this episode, Kevin and Lee enjoy a conversation with deconstruction coach Angela Herrington about the underlying factors that often drive individuals to deconstruct, and how understanding those factors can aid in a healthy deconstruction.
Angela's information can be found here:
Angela's social media: https://angelajherrington.com/press/ The Summit can be found at https://www.deconstructingfaithsummit.com/ Angela's Free Facebook community: AngelaJHerrington.com The list of religious trauma informed therapists is available at https://www.reclamationcollective.com/find-a-therapist Enjoying the Podcast? Have Questions? Email us at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com Thanks for listening!
"I guess if you're going to wear that you don't really love the Lord..."
"If you miss worship you'll go to hell!"
When you begin to go through a faith transition, it's not uncommon for those in your faith community to express concern for your changing beliefs, especially in high authority, legalistic faith communities. For the most part, those with concerns act in good faith and have a genuine concern for those who they beleive are 'departing the faith'.
But how should a Christian who's faith is changing from a legalistic paradigm to a grace centered, Christ centered paradigm manage those conversations in which manipulation and coercion are used as tools to try to bring an 'erring brother/sister' back to 'the truth'?
Kevin and Lee discuss various manipulation and coercion tactics that are commonly used, how to recognize them, and how to move away from or past those conversations that aren't helpful.
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For people in high-authority, legalistic, fundamentalist religions, a faith journey away from legalism into a grace centered, Christ-centered faith can be a scary journey. Sometimes, well-meaning friends and family will confront those on such a journey to try to study, discuss, or badger Christians who are in an emotionally vulnerable state to 'win them back to the truth'.
How do we navigate these relationships? How do we manage these confrontations? How can a Christian set healthy boundaries while remaining Christ-like?
Kevin and Lee discuss their experiences and offer some advice to those on such a journey in this episode.
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In episode 83 (Click here if you haven't heard it yet) Dr. Grant Testut, Biblical scholar extraordinaire joined Kevin and Lee for a conversation about the Canaanite Genocide and how those events square with the concept of a loving God. That episode was very popular, and some questions were sent in from our audience asking for further discussion and clarity regarding Dr. Testut's statements about Jesus 'undoing' the conquest narratives with his ethic of love for neighbor and enemy.
In this episode, Kevin, Lee, and Dr. Testut dive back in and discuss these ideas more fully.
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Folks, It's FINALLY HERE!!! Kevin's book "Blinded by the Bible" was published Monday, and is available on Amazon for purchase.
In this episode, Kevin and Lee discuss all things related to this new book and how it can help the discussion about the Bible and how we relate to it move forward productively in our modern Christian world.
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In this episode, Kevin and Lee step into the wayback machine and republish our second episode of the podcast. This episode is one of Kevin and Lee's favorite episodes, and we thought it would be a treat to bring it back around in the rotation for our newer listeners.
In this episode, Kevin and Lee discuss the controversial idea, "Will only a few be saved?"
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"Now these things, brethren, I have figuratively transferred to myself and Apollos for your sakes, that you may learn in us not to think beyond what is written..." 1Co 4:6
1 Corinthians 4:6 was a passage many use to shut down meaningful conversation about scriptural interpretation, including Kevin and Lee at one point in their lives. Any interpretation/application that bucks up against the 'status quo' is hand-waved away as 'thinking beyond what is written'.
In this episode, Kevin and Lee discuss the context of this passage, and how the actual contextual meaning of this passage is one that could foster better unity among Christians of all denominations if we only would take Paul's message to heart.
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Modesty standards are often touted by well-meaning churches in an effort to promote holiness and prevent sin, specifically 'lustful thoughts' in the minds of Christians. But are these modesty standards truly biblical? What unintended consequences arise when strict modesty standards are promoted?
You don't want to miss this episode!
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Dr. Patrick Mead of Our Safe Harbor Church returns to the podcast to join Kevin and Lee for a discussion on baptism!
Baptism is a ritual practiced by almost every Christian denomination, and perspectives on baptism's purpose and function run the gamut.
What is the ancient context of baptism? How did the practice originate? How do the biblical authors speak to baptism? What functionality/relevance does baptism have today?
We discuss these ideas and more in this episode.
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Part three of our non-sequential series on the Fruit of the Spirit. In this episode, Lee discusses how when faith is deconstructed, Christ and the Fruit of the Spirit are our best guides toward reconstructing a faith, and how a legalistic faith can rarely (pretty much never) bring about the manifestation of the Fruit of the Spirit.
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In our last episode Kevin and Lee (and Daniel!) interviewed Brian McLaren and discussed his upcoming book "Do I Stay Christian?", which is currently available for pre-order everywhere Christian books are sold.
This week, Kevin and Lee follow up with a candid conversation about why they have stayed Christian in spite of their questions and doubts.
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Joining Kevin and Lee on the podcast this week is international best-selling author Brian McLaren, author of 'The Great Spiritual Migration', 'Faith After Doubt', and the excellent upcoming book 'Do I Stay Christian?'.
In this episode, Kevin, Lee, Daniel, and Brian discuss Brian's new book, some of the challenges Christians face in navigating their deconstruction, and how every Christian can find comfort in spite of their doubts.
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Every Christian faces trials in their life that can challenge their faith. When our experiences contradict what we've been told about God, Christianity, the Bible, and what faith is, our faith can begin to come unravelled. Many who deconstruct their faith don't really know how to re-construct their faith from the ashes of their doubt, because their perception of God doesn't allow them to do so.
In her book "Gaslighted by God", Dr. Tiffany Yecke Brooks offers hopeful solutions and answers to questions that so many Christians have when their perception of who God is no longer makes sense. This book is for any Christian in any season of faith, and Kevin and Lee's conversation with Dr. Yecke Brooks in this episode will provoke thought.
More information about Dr. Yecke Brooks can be found on her website.
"Gaslighted by God" is available on Amazon, Barnes and Noble, and anywhere quality books are sold.
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“If my people who are called by my name humble themselves, and pray and seek my face and turn from their wicked ways, then I will hear from heaven and will forgive their sin and heal their land.” 2 Chronicles 7:14
This passage is often utilized to teach the principle that if America would only return to her Christian roots, so much of the calamity and chaos that exists within our borders would come to an end and America would prosper once again. But is that really what this passage is teaching?
Is it wrong to love your country? Is it wrong to be proud to be an American? Has America EVER been a Christian nation?
Kevin and Lee discuss these ideas and more in this episode.
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“For my thoughts are not your thoughts, neither are your ways my ways,” declares the Lord. “As the heavens are higher than the earth, so are my ways higher than your ways and my thoughts than your thoughts." --Isaiah 55:8-9
For many people the above passage demonstrates a fundamental facet of God's nature, that He alone is absolutely sovereign, and to question God is to audaciously disrespect His divine wisdom. In the eyes of many, questioning God is something a Christian should never, ever do. After all, His ways are higher than our ways, and His thoughts greater than our thoughts.
When we find ourselves at a crossroads in our spiritual journey, often we begin to feel guilt and feel that questioning our theological or doctrinal positions is akin to challenging God himself, and in doing so we then often feel a sense of dread; will the most-high, almighty God of Heaven tolerate such thinking?
Kevin and Lee discuss how questioning God is actually a Biblical concept, and is something Christians shouldn't fear, and is actually something God invites us to do.
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When leaving legalism, a lot of awkward and difficult conversations can ensue with those who are still within a legalistic system. There will be those who are truly concerned and who feel you have left the faith simply because you no longer believe the way you once did. How should one navigate those conversations? In this episode, Kevin Pendergrass discusses tips and lessons he has learned about how to have profitable conversations with others when leaving legalism (and when and how to avoid conversations that are not fruitful).
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This is episode 100! (Yeah, it says E86, but that doesn't count Q&A episodes!)
In this episode, Daniel Rogers joins Kevin and Lee to answer this question; if the Bible isn't 'playing out right in front of our very eyes', then what is one to make regarding prophecy in scripture? If prophecy wasn't supernatural fortune telling, if prophecy had a specific purpose to serve in the day and time in which it was written, then what are Christians to make of the prophetic books and apocalyptic literature found in scripture? What purpose do they serve for the modern Christian in our here and now?
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The 'Left Behind' series is one of the best-selling Christian Fiction series of all time. Each generation has lamented that the signs of the times all point to the beginning of the end, that Christ's return is imminent.
The war between Russia and Ukraine has stoked those fires anew, and it's becoming more common to see memes, articles, and graphics posted to social media declaring that 'the Bible is playing out right before our eyes'.
Daniel Rogers returns for a discussion of these themes and the passages that many cite to declare that The Great Tribulation is upon us.
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What do Ronald Reagan, Barack Obama, and Donald Trump all have in common?
They're the best (or worst) president America has ever had.
It depends on who you ask.
Far, FAR too many Christians are defining themselves based on the political party they place their faith in rather than Jesus Christ. Christians (in America, especially) have allowed themselves to become divided along political party or policy lines, and as a result the kingdom of God suffers.
How can we remain united in Christ in spite of our political diversity? Kevin and Lee discuss this concept in this episode.
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"...in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes. Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you." - Deuteronomy 20:16-17
After Israel's exodus from Egypt and their sojourn in the wilderness, the time finally arrived for Israel to take the land promised to the patriarch Abraham. The instructions from God were clear regarding the land's inhabitants; kill everyone.
The genocide passages have troubled Christians for hundreds of years. After all, how can we reconcile a God of love, mercy, grace, and compassion with the orders to plunder the land and kill everyone who inhabits the land?
In this episode, Hebrew Bible scholar Dr. Grant Testut returns to discuss the historicity of these passages and various ways they have been and can be understood within the context of the Old Testament, and within the context of Jesus.
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Our previous episode with Krystal Shipps has by far generated more response than any other episode we've done in the few short weeks following its release. The overwhelming majority of the feedback Kevin and Lee received was positive, but some listeners also shared some concerns they had regarding the tone of the episode. Enough constructive feedback was received that Kevin and Lee thought it would be beneficial to publish a follow-up discussion dealing with both the positive and not-so-positive comments received.
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You've waited 4 months, and your wait is over! This episode is part 2 in our series discussing the Fruit of the Spirt, in which Kevin and Lee discuss Joy.
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Why do you believe what you believe? Why do you think the way you think? The opinions people hold, the values people possess, and the conclusions people draw are always (or almost always) held sincerely. For many of us, we don't think too hard or too deeply about those things, they simply are. But what would change if we started to think more critically about things? How could that improve our outlook, and even our lives?
In this episode, Kevin and Lee discuss the difference between sincere thinking and critical thinking, and map out ways we can all begin to think more effectively.
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Faith is often a powerful tool that helps individuals live fulfilled lives. Faith can be a balm for the soul in times of distress and is often an anchor in our darkest days. But sometimes, the way our faith is programmed and expressed isn't helpful, and often times can manifest itself in toxic ways.
Religious trauma is real, and often times that toxic faith that breeds religious trauma leaves a wide wake of destruction that can take decades to heal from, if one even heals at all.
In this episode, Kevin and Lee are joined by Krystal Shipps, a Licensed Professional Counselor who helps people cope with Religious Trauma as one of her several specialties. Krystal has personal experience with Religious Trauma, and is uniquely equipped to provide help to those who struggle with the damage toxic religion can often bring.
Krystal's resources can be found here:
TikTok: @mendedliving Facebook group: Mended Living with Krystal Shipps Website: mendedkc.com Enjoying the podcast? Hate it? Have a suggestion? Email us at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com Thanks for listening!
Prophecy, History, Poetry, Apocalypse, Epistle, Narrative, Law, all of the preceding represent some of the genres we find in the Bible. Learning to recognize genre leads to a better reading of scripture and provides needed context that is often lost with a 'straightforward' reading of the Bible. What often surprises many Christians (and even scares some) is the realization that Myth is a Biblical genre.
This idea of Myth as a Biblical genre is often ignored and even rejected by many believers. After all, if the Bible contains myth, how can we trust any of it?
Kevin and Lee discuss this concept in this episode.
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Life is hard, folks. We have ups and downs, we have times for celebration and times to mourn, we have stress and we have moments of levity in which our cares and stresses are forgotten. For many Christians, those moments of happiness and pleasure can sometimes bring about guilt afterwards, because the Bible also teaches that suffering is a part of the Christian life as well. Some take this idea too far.
For many Christians, having fun and pursuing fun shouldn't be part of the equation. After all, "There's no scripture that authorizes a Christian to have fun! Any pleasure a Christian experiences should be spiritual." But is that so?
Lee and Kevin discuss this idea (which is more common than you think) in this episode.
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In our 10th Q&A, Kevin and Lee discussed the implications of Romans 2 and the Parable of the Good Samaritan and how those passages seem to imply that God's grace can extend even to those who have never heard about Jesus. We STRONGLY encourage you to listen to that episode before listening to this one.
That conversation generated a LOT of discussion in our discussion group, so Kevin and Lee thought it wise to continue the conversation.
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"1Ti 3:1 ¶ This is a true saying, If a man desire the office of a bishop, he desireth a good work."
Church governance has taken different forms across different denominations and religious groups. Within the Churches of Christ, church government is managed and overseen by Elders and Deacons. This arrangement can often lead to disagreements over the 'qualifications' of Elders, and whether or not a man meets those qualifications to serve as an Elder.
Dr. Patrick Mead, former pulpit minister of the 4th Avenue Church of Christ and co-founder and Senior Pastor of Our Safe Harbor Church joins Kevin and Lee for a conversation about his life, his ministry through the years, and the so-called 'office' of an Elder and how it can be approached in a very different yet still Biblical manner today.
More of Dr. Mead's work, including sermons and his "Who Told You..." series can be found on their YouTube Channel and Our Safe Harbor Church's podcast channel.
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Christmas is arguably the largest, most celebrated holiday in the world. Widely celebrated as the birth of Christ, when December rolls around on the calendar many Christians get excited and eagerly look forward to the festive season, while other Christians view the season as an opportunity to decry Christmas as a man-made, pagan tradition that Christians should take no part in.
Much like the previous Holiday Special on Halloween, Kevin and Lee examine Christmas and discuss the following questions;
Does Christmas find it's origin in paganism? Who first celebrated Christmas and why? How did December 25th come to be regarded as Jesus' birthday (we didn't get into the Eastern Orthodox view of Jan 6)? Is it possible to celebrate Christmas in a secular sense?
These questions and more are discussed in this episode.
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In episodes 29 and 30, Brandon Johnson joined us for a discussion about pornography addiction. Since then, we've received multiple questions and requests concerning resources for wives of husbands who have experienced their own trauma that arises from their husband's addiction to pornography.
Joining us in this episode is Lyschel Burket with Hope Redefined, a not-for-profit ministry that helps wives manage and work through the betrayal trauma that comes from porn addiction.
If you have questions, comments, or requests of your own, reach out to us at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com
www.hoperedefined.org is the webpage for Lyschel's ministry, and is an invaluable resource for any wife dealing with betrayal trauma.
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The three branches of the Abrahamic religious tree are Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Each of these monotheistic faith systems have many differences, but they also have much in common. On this episode, Kevin and Lee are joined by Muslim Imam Jamal Rahman and Pastor Donald McKenzie. Jamal and Donald are two of the three members of the 'Interfaith Amigos', and along with Rabbi Ted Falcon (who unfortunately was unable to join us in our conversation) have worked for 20 years to increase interfaith dialogue between adherents of all religions.
This was a fun and profitable conversation, and we think you'll enjoy it!
For more info on the Interfaith Amigos, check out their website www.interfaithamigos.com
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After our episode discussing the parable of the Good Samaritan, we received several questions from you guys about the ramifications of what Kevin stated in that episode; does the parable of the Good Samaritan teach that there's a possibility that those who have never heard about Jesus could find redemption? Kevin believes that may well be, but Lee isn't quite sure about that prospect.
We received enough questions from our listeners along those lines to warrant this Q and A episode, and we hope you enjoy it!
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Everyone faces loss and grief in their lives. Losing a loved one, the end of a relationship, or even a transition from one stage of life to another can cause feelings of grief. How do we deal with those feelings effectively, especially around the holidays?
Kevin and Lee are joined by Joy Gaertner, a certified, licensed grief counselor who has helped thousands of clients address their grief in a way that honors their grief and allows them to process the complex emotions that often accompany grief through the Grief Recovery Method, a peer-reviewed and evidence-based system of therapeutically recovering from grief and loss.
More information about Joy and her work in grief recovery can be found at www.walkingwithjoy.com
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Brandon Johnson returns to the podcast for a conversation about a heavy, often painful topic; the withdrawing of fellowship from a fellow believer.
The topic of disfellowship (excommunication in some circles) is a heavy topic for many. The practice of disfellowshiping fellow believers happens far too often, many times for trivial reasons. Families, churches, and communities have been torn apart as a result of needless and flippant withdrawal of fellowship between Christians. While there is a time and place for withdrawing fellowship from a fellow believer, this practice is one that should never be considered lightly and should only be utilized as a measure of last resort.
In this episode, Kevin, Brandon, and Lee discuss their experience with this practice in terms of being on both the 'giving' and 'receiving' end of disfellowship, what the Bible says about this practice, and how Christians can and should do better.
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"If anyone would come after me, let him take up his cross daily, and follow me".
These words spoken by Jesus in Luke's gospel are powerful indeed, and yet the meaning and force behind these words has been diluted over time and across generations. For many, 'taking up one's cross' is relegated to bearing with the annoyances of the day, or is a statement made by many to justify remaining in toxic, dangerous, or abusive situations.
What did Jesus mean when he uttered these words? How can we apply them in our day and time? Kevin and Lee discuss this passage in this episode.
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You've heard Lee's story and an update to Lee's ongoing journey of faith from Legalism to Grace, and while this entire podcast is an examination of Kevin and Lee's faith journeys from various doctrinal perspectives, we've yet to discuss much of Kevin's personal journey...
...until now.
In this episode, Kevin steps into the way back machine and discusses his life, his career as a preacher, his legalism, and his journey out of legalism and into a Christ-centered, grace-centered faith.
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Halloween is one of the biggest commercial holidays in the modern era. Children and adults alike both enjoy dressing up in costumes and celebrating the festivities of the holiday with friends and family.
Even so, there are Christians who believe celebrating Halloween is evil, that it is a holiday that celebrates darkness, wickedness, witchcraft, and Satan, and that participating in any shape or form is sin. Other Christians believe in limited participation, while others see nothing wrong with dressing up and begging for candy.
What are the origins of Halloween? Is Halloween, as it's celebrated in modern times, truly a Satanic holiday? Kevin and Lee discuss the history of Halloween in this episode.
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He was praying in a certain place, and after he had finished, one of his disciples said to him, “Lord, teach us to pray, as John taught his disciples.” - Luke 11:1, NRSV
Prayer is a fundamental aspect of practically every religious tradition, and it's one that is often overlooked, taken for granted, misunderstood, and even overemphasized in many ways within Christianity. What exactly is prayer? What is it's purpose? Why do we pray? Is prayer transactional? Does our prayer life relegate God to the role of a mere genie who exists to grant our wishes?
Kevin and Lee discuss these ideas and more in this episode which focuses on prayer.
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We all remember Jiminy Cricket's famous statement "Let your conscience be your guide" (technically it was the Blue Fairy, but Mr. Cricket tends to get the credit for that one), but is letting your conscience guide you really the right move? What if your conscience is 'miscalibrated'?
In this episode, Kevin and Lee discuss why one's conviction should steer their conscience, rather than allowing their conscience to guide one's conviction.
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Kevin and Lee are joined on this episode by OC Faculty Chris Rosser to discuss media literacy; or, how do we go about parsing all the data that surrounds us and then make sense of it? Does the secret lie in the data we consume, or is the 'substrate' that receives this data more important? This conversation was deep, enlightening, and a LOT of fun!
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In this Q&A, Kevin and Lee discuss their experiences with bitterness, leaving legalism behind, and how to release bitterness in order to more fully love one another.
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In this episode Kevin and Lee begin a non-sequential series discussing the fruits of the spirit. What love isn't, what love is, how love is viewed through various lenses are all things discussed in this episode.
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In this episode Kevin and Lee are joined by Sally Gary, lifelong Christian and member of the Church of Christ, Communications and Speech and Debate professor, Attorney at law, and is the founder of CenterPeace Ministries. Sally has written about her upbringing and life in the Church of Christ and her struggles with her sexuality in two memoirs; "Loves God, Likes Girls" and "Affirming: A Memoir of Faith, Sexuality, and Staying in the Church".
CenterPeace is a ministry that focuses on providing resources to LGBTQ+ people of faith, their parents, and churches, with a focus on ensuring that everyone has a place to belong. www.centerpeace.net
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One of Kevin and Lee's main objectives in this podcast has been to discuss how they've changed their walk with God from a legalistic paradigm to a grace-centered, truly Christ-centered paradigm. It hasn't been easy, and some of the feedback received from our listeners has enumerated just how difficult it can be to reconstruct something in the place of that deconstructed legalistically driven faith.
In this episode, Lee revisits his legalistic past, but then goes into detail on how he was able to reconstruct his faith by getting to know Jesus.
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Romans 14 (and 1Corinthians 8) are passages that have been misused by many Christians to insist that others need to either stop or start engaging in some behavior that is either considered offensive or essential, respectively. Some Christians will insist that a practice or behavior a brother or sister engages in must stop, that liberty must be curtailed so that their conscience won't be violated.
Is Romans 14 and 1Corinthians 8 really about curtailing Christian liberty, or is there more to it than that? (Spoiler: there's more to it than that)
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Pastor Josh Scott returns to the EFPG podcast to discuss an interesting passage in Mt 15 when it appears as though Jesus is 'corrected' by a Canaanite woman. This is a passage well-known to many Christians, and in this conversation Pastor Josh, Kevin, and Lee take note and discuss some interesting contextual and cultural undertones that often go unnoticed by many students of the Bible (at least they went unnoticed by Lee before this episode).
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In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Alden Bass, PhD to discuss Christian community, and pursuing community in an intentional way.
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Often when a Christian comes across verses that contradict each other, that Christian looks to harmonize or reconcile those contradictions in order to maintain their faith. Sometimes, those tensions become insurmountable and that Christian's faith is shaken. Joining Kevin and Lee is Dr. Grant Testut, professor of Old Testament at Oklahoma Christian.
In this conversation, Dr. Testut, Kevin, and Lee discuss some well-known (and not so well-known) tensions and blatant contradictions that are found in the OT, why they might be there, and why Christians shouldn't fear these tensions, but embrace them and accept them as a part of the scripture that God gave mankind.
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In this episode, Kevin and Lee discuss cuss words and their etymology, their use, and the concept of whether or not saying curse words is a sin or something Christians should do.
Due to the topic discussed, listener discretion is advised.
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The Good Samaritan is one of the most well-known of Jesus' parables, and within that story we find layers of truth that unfold before us. In this episode, Kevin and Lee discuss this parable, it's context, and some of the implications it may teach that often go unnoticed (at least they did to Lee prior to this episode).
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Over the last several episodes concerning women's roles, Kevin, Lee, and our guests have all discussed or alluded to 1 Corinthians 11 in some way, especially verses 4 and 5, which imply/teach (in Kevin and Lee's estimation) that women experienced full participation in the public worship in the early church.
One of the things Bible students will notice is that 1 Corinthians 11 is NOT directly speaking about that, but vv2-16 is instead discussing a principle that women who pray/prophesy should cover their heads, and Paul delivers a teaching that outlines why.
The discussion Kevin and Lee have dives into what the covering actually is. Is it an artificial veil? Is it long hair? Is it UNCUT hair? Understanding the underlying context of this passage provides clarity to one of the most difficult passages in scripture.
NOTE: Some of the context we discuss in this episode concerns ancient perspectives on human reproduction, and some might find that content distasteful. For that reason, listener discretion is advised.
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Articles referenced in this episode:
https://www.psephizo.com/biblical-studies/head-does-not-mean-leader-in-1-cor-11-3/ https://drive.google.com/file/d/1UrmXbcqzWh3aQ1wotzDhqRYf0swtvj8w/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/10k8YZEtt0YpCNQzbUYGaMj7JH2ora9QW/view?usp=sharing https://drive.google.com/file/d/1exEv41Maq8J-sGUSJunSUW6Bt4MLaslu/view?usp=sharing
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In the early 1900's the churches of Christ experienced a division concerning the practice of communion; specifically, whether or not more than one cup may be used in the observance of the Lord's Supper.
For over 15 years Lee was part of the one-cup group that arose from that division, and it has only been recently that he changed his position on that topic. For many, this is a silly thing to divide over, but for those in the one-cup community, the practice of the Lord's Supper is something that requires precise obedience to a divine pattern, and is no trivial matter. So what caused Lee to change his mind?
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One of the most common questions Kevin and Lee have received is, "Why do you discuss topics with guests you don't agree with? Why don't you press these guests harder on those issues?"
That's a good question! And in this episode, we answer it.
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After some wonderful conversations with Wes McAdams and Dr. Linda King, Kevin and Lee hash out their particular positions on whether women should be allowed full participation or limited/no participation in the public worship of the church.
If you've ever wondered how someone can believe women should be allowed full participation in view of 1Corinthians 14:34-35 and 1Timothy 2:11-12, this episode is for you.
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If you're interested in further study on the subject of context and women's roles in worship, check out Dr. Dallas Burdette's website www.freedominchrist.net.
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In this conversation Kevin and Lee engage in a great conversation with Wes McAdams about women's roles in worship from a complementarian purview. Traditionally, church government, public (pulpit) preaching, and participation in worship in a leadership sense is a role reserved for men in many Orthodox and Protestant denominations, and is the majority position across Christendom, albeit within a range of application accross those denominational lines.
Is this approach the best, most scriptural application? Whether you may agree or disagree with Kevin and Lee's position or with Wes' position, we know you'll be blessed by this conversation.
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Wes McAdams returns to the podcast for a wonderful conversation in which Kevin, Lee, and Wes discuss what Complementarianism is, and more importantly what it is NOT.
Often times, the complementarian view is stated to be one that subjugates women beneath men, that the complementarian view is misogynistic and is a product of a bygone era. But is that REALLY a fair representation of the Complementarian position? You won't want to miss this episode!!
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Dr. Alan Baggett joins Kevin and Lee for a conversation about biases. Everyone, and I mean EVERYONE has a bias (or two, or three...) to overcome when engaging with the scriptures, with other people, or even with their own worldview. Recognizing and overcoming those biases is crucial to continued growth in Christ and in love for neighbor.
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EDIT: This episode when originally posted had out-of-sync audio, which has been rectified. It has been re-uploaded.
In this episode, Scot Loyd returns to the podcast to discuss The Balance Fallacy and how fallacious thinking often leads to cognitive dissonance, and how fallacies of various sorts can impede a Christian's ability to live out their faith in a manner that pleases God.
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In this episode, Kevin and Lee are joined by Justin Pannell to discuss fasting. Fasting is a practice often discussed in scripture, but is often ignored or even opposed by some. What are the lessons we can learn from fasting? How can fasting inform and help shape our walk with God? These ideas and more are discussed in this episode.
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This episode is a LOOOOOONG one, but worth your time! This episode discusses specific Bible passages that have often been used to prevent full participation of our Christian sisters in worship. Dr. King provides a nuanced, contextual perspective on these passages and Lee, Kevin, and Dr. King have a wonderful, in-depth discussion on their application.
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One of the most commonly suggested topics our listeners have requested is women's roles in worship. In this episode, we discuss the scriptural basis for full participation of women in the function of the church with Dr. Linda King.
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This episode continues our conversation about the Holy Spirit and His work. The first episode was an overview, this episode takes a deeper look at what we see revealed about the Holy Spirit in scripture.
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The Holy Spirit? What is it? Is 'it' an it? Is the Holy Spirit a He? A force? A person? How does the Holy Spirit work? What does He do, and how does He do it?
These questions have been asked, answered, debated, and argued over for 2,000 years. We don't pretend to have an answer to every question about the Holy Spirit or His work, but we do know that He is involved in the life of a believer in some way.
In this short series, Brandon Johnson returns to walk us through what the Bible teaches about the Holy Spirit, and how the Holy Spirit can work in and enrich the life of every believer.
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In the third and final episode in our series discussing musical instruments, Kevin and Lee break down the objections made to using musical instruments in worship to God that are based on a faulty understanding of church history.
Did the early church fathers unanimously condemn instrumental worship? Did the reformers? We discuss these concepts and more in this episode!
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This is part 2 of our three part series on musical instruments in worship, where we continue the conversation and 'debate' between Kevin from 2012, and Kevin from 2015-present. While part 1 sets the stage, part 2 gets to the core issues of the discussion and the main points at which Kevin (and Lee) diverge from their previous understanding of this topic.
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Kevin is BACK! And upon his return we begin a discussion on a topic that has been requested by many of our listeners; is it unscriptural or sinful to use musical instruments in worship to God?
One of the defining characteristics of the Church of Christ is the utilization of acapella singing in worship. As Kevin and Lee both have a long history within the Churches of Christ, both have held the conviction that God does not desire nor does the Bible authorize the use of musical instruments in worship to him within the New Covenant era. It goes without saying that both Kevin and Lee's perspective on this topic has changed, and this episode is part one of a three part series that discusses why their perspective has changed on this topic.
In 2012, Kevin engaged in his final formal debate of his preaching career with Jason Weatherly. In this episode, we take audio from Kevin's first affirmative, and much like the 2019 Avengers had to contend with a time-travelling 2014 Thanos, Kevin and Lee 'debate' with 2012 Kevin.
This episode was a blast to record, and we hope our audience enjoys what becomes a lively discussion, especially in part 2.
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In this episode Lee flies solo again, summarizing his spiritual journey over the previous year. Lee discusses the challenges he and his family faced in making the decision to leave their faith community, the reasons that lead them to do so, and why this isn't a choice that anyone should make lightly.
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This episode takes a different approach than our previous efforts. Kevin and Lee both come from a Churches of Christ background, and most of the guests on this podcast have either been from a similar background or have done work in Theology at a scholarly level.
In this episode, Lee sits down to have a conversation with his good friend Sarah Gonzales, as she shares her faith journey from a legalistic paradigm to a more grace-centered spiritual worldview. Sarah's story is much different than Kevin's, Lee's, and most of the guests that have joined them on this podcast, so we know it will be a blessing to folks who have travelled a different road in their faith journey towards a better understanding and appreciation of God's grace.
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In this episode Daniel Rogers returns to the podcast to discuss his faith journey, the paradigm shifts he experienced, and the challenges we face when going through the process of spiritual formation and re-formation. Eventually we all will face a concept that challenges our interpretation, and when that happens we have to decide how to proceed. Daniel and Lee have a conversation that discusses what that looks like, and we certainly hope that you'll be blessed by it.
https://labornotinvain.com/2021/03/14/convictions-shape-communities/
www.freedominchrist.net
www.labornotinvain.com
https://labornotinvain.com/product/how-to-study-the-bible/
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"Progressive" Christianity is often colored as an affront to the Bible, with progressive Christians characterized as people who don't care about the Bible, who just want to "do whatever they want", who have no regard for truth and don't respect God, Christ, or the scriptures.
In this episode, Kevin and Lee are joined by Josh Scott, pastor of GracePointe Church in Nashville, TN, who was the recent subject of an article in The Christian Post after his remarks about the innerancy of the Bible went (somewhat) viral.
Josh's work can be found here:
https://joshscott.substack.com/
www.gracepointe.net
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In our previous episode, Kevin and Lee discussed the regulative principle and why that principle isn't the most helpful or effective approach in reading, interpreting, and applying scripture. This episode picks up where the previous episode left off, discussing how a focus on studying the Bible in a manner that pursues knowledge about God leads to fear, while reading the Bible in a manner that works to know God and who He is leads to a deeper, richer faith.
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What is the best way to read the Bible? That's an all too common question, with different answers from practically everyone. Every Christian agrees that the Bible contains timeless wisdom and is true, inspired of God, and reveals to us the mind of God and what it is he desires from those who follow Him.
But how is the Bible to be read? Is it a rulebook that we are to parse, study, and dissect so that we can know how God demands to be worshiped?
In this episode, Kevin and Lee discuss the Regulative Principle, which declares that the function of the Bible is to reveal to man God's regulations for how Christians are to live and worship him, and why that approach isn't the most helpful approach, especially if unity is to be pursued.
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In modern culture there are few topics as polarizing as LGBTQ+ issues, especially within the conversation (or lack thereof) in religious spheres. An untold multitude of Christians have struggled with their sexuality and how to reconcile that fundamental aspect of who they are with what it means to follow Jesus.
This conversation isn't one where we dive into the theological arguments in favor of or opposed to LGBTQ+ issues and practices.
Kevin and Lee are joined by Dallas James Pritt, who is both gay and a Christian, to discuss how those who are Christians can have better conversations with their LGBTQ+ neighbors.
https://www.dallasjamespritt.com/
www.centerpeace.net
Dallas' award-winning short film, "A Heart's Calling" can be seen here.
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Legalism is a term thrown around by a lot of people and has a wide range of meaning for folks who use it. What exactly is legalism? How do we know if we're legalistic in our worldview? How do we overcome it?
Matt Dabbs of Wineskins joins us for this conversation, and we hope it's beneficial for you all.
Matt's work can be found here;
www.wineskins.org
www.mattdabbs.com
https://www.backyardchurch.org/
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCf4oeVvZX5aeORFaNMKb__w
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One of the observations many skeptics make regarding the bible has to do with the nature of God; if God is truly as loving as Christians claim, why would God command Abraham to offer his son, Isaac, as a sacrifice?
This is a fair question, and oftentimes the answers offered by Christians fall short of adequately explaining this apparent dichotomy between what we see in scripture regarding God's nature. If God is love, demanding a human sacrifice doesn't make a whole lot of sense. But when the ancient cultural context in which this narrative account is embedded is considered, this story of Abraham and Isaac, the son of promise, comes to life in ways many Christians have never considered, and a solid explanation is found that makes sense of what scripture reveals about God's nature.
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Part 1 of our discussion on Biblical unity centered around how Kevin and Lee understood unity and how that perspective of Biblical unity as uniformity isn't what the scriptures teach.
In part 2, Kevin and Lee continue the discussion and delve into what Biblical unity does entail, and how all of God's people can pursue the spirit of unity in the bond of peace.
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The sermon mentioned in this episode can be found here.
One of the fundamental characteristics of those who follow Christ is unity. But what is unity?
Does Biblical unity demand all Christians hold the same opinions on doctrine, worship practices, and Biblical interpretation? Kevin and Lee begin a discussion on the fundamentals of unity in this episode.
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In this episode, Kevin and Lee discuss the topics we studied and presented over the preceding year, positions we shifted on, concepts we aren't 'there' on yet, and more. We also discussed what's on the horizon for 2021.
We appreciate you all, and look forward to a great year in 2021! Reach out to us at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com!
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In Episode 28, Kevin and Lee discussed Hebrews 10:25 and whether the context allows that passage to be read as a mandated obligation to assemble for a church service. That episode generated several questions from our audience, which we endeavored to answer in this Q&A.
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In this episode Dr. Artman joins Kevin and Lee for a follow up to their discussion on Christian Universalism, and Dr. Artman answers some questions about the theology of Universalism.
You can find more of Dr. Artman's work here: www.davidartman.net
You can find Dr. Artman's podcast here: https://www.davidartman.net/podcast
His book can be ordered from Amazon.
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In this episode Kevin and Lee are joined by minister and author Dr. David Artman to discuss the concept of Christian Universalism.
Christian Universalism is a theology that posits that God's ultimate will is to save all mankind, and will do so universally as an extension of his grace. There's a lot of nuance and detail to the idea, and this conversation only scratches the surface.
You can find more of Dr. Artman's work here: www.davidartman.net
You can find Dr. Artman's podcast here: https://www.davidartman.net/podcast
His book can be ordered from Amazon.
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Our last episode dealt with just how much of an issue pornography is in the church. This episode focuses on practical, real solutions toward overcoming addiction to pornography.
Below are just a few of the resources one can use to overcome this addiction.
Ted Talk by Brene Brown on vulnerability
Brené Brown: The power of vulnerability | TED Talk
Books
Facing the Shadow - Facing the Shadow [3rd Edition]: Starting Sexual and Relationship Recovery: Carnes, Patrick: 9780985063375: Amazon.com: Books
Shadows of the Cross - Shadows of the Cross: A Christian Companion to Facing the Shadow: Cashwell, Craig, Johnson, Pennie, Carnes, Patrick: 9780985063351: Amazon.com: Books
Clean by Doug Weiss - Clean: A Proven Plan for Men Committed to Sexual Integrity: Weiss, Douglas: 9781400204687: Amazon.com: Books
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This is the first of a two-part episode dealing with the problem and solution of pornography addiction. Pornography is an issue rampant within society, including the church. The adult entertainment industry generates more income than the NFL, NBA, and MLB combined. In this episode, we discuss how prevalent pornography is, the attitudes toward it, and how addiction plays a huge role in overcoming the challenges associated with pornography.
Questions? Concerns? Comments? Drop us a line at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com and let us know! We'd love to hear from you!
"...not forsaking the assembling of yourselves together, as the manner of some..."
Hebrews 10:25 is a passage that has been quoted by preachers from pulpits far and wide, and is often utilized as an admonition to Christians to never, EVER miss a church service if it can be helped. Is that what the Hebrew writer had in mind when he wrote his letter, "don't miss church"? Or did he have in mind something else entirely?
In this episode, Kevin and Lee unpack the context of Hebrews 10:25 and discuss that there's far more to this verse than simply 'missing church'.
You can order Kevin's book, "A Different Kind of Poison: How Legalism Destroys Grace" here.
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This episode concludes our conversation with Wes McAdams, host of the 'Radically Christian' Podcast. We had a great conversation and look forward to having Wes on as a guest again in the future.
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Find Wes Here: www.radicallychristian.com
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Kevin and Lee are joined in this episode by Wes McAdams, preacher for the McDermott Road church of Christ in Plano, TX, and host of the "Radically Christian" Podcast.
This episode continues our exploration of different perspective on what the Bible says about the end times, specifically the idea of the "New Heavens and New Earth", or "Renewal of Creation."
We enjoyed our discussion and look forward to Wes joining us again, hopefully. Send your questions to exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com.
You can find Wes' work at www.radicallychristian.com
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This episode concludes our interview with Daniel Rogers on the end-times interpretation known as Preterism, or Realized Eschatology. We enjoyed our conversation with Brother Daniel and look forward to having him on again in the future!
Have a question or suggestion for a topic or a guest? Email us at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com. Thanks for listening!
In this episode we begin a brief series on the study of the end times, referred to commonly as eschatological studies in theological circles.
The first concept we discuss is preterism, which is a belief that all Biblical prophecy came to pass before AD70 and the destruction of Jerusalem.
We discuss this with our guest, Daniel Rogers! Daniel has published his work on his website and on his youtube channel.
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This episode is part 2 of our interview with Biblical scholar and published scientist, Dr. Denis Lamoureux.
We've referenced his work on the podcast before, and we were thrilled to have Dr. Lamoureux join us for a wonderful discussion about the synthesis between what science shows us and what the scriptures teach us.
Dr. Lamoureux is the author of several books, and has provided what is largely considered to be the best, most accessible work on the subject of the Bible and Evolution. Below are links to Dr. Lamoureux's TED talk, his books, and his website.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaeGfV-N2kM&ab_channel=TEDxTalks
https://sites.ualberta.ca/~dlamoure/
https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Ancient-Science-Principles-Interpretation/dp/1951252055/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=denis+lamoureux&qid=1602450627&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Scripture-Nature-Say-Yes-ebook/dp/B01CXDN2UG/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=denis+lamoureux&qid=1602450650&sr=8-2
https://www.amazon.com/Evolutionary-Creation-Christian-Approach-Evolution/dp/1556355815/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=denis+lamoureux&qid=1602450650&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Jesus-Accept-Evolution/dp/1556358865/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=denis+lamoureux&qid=1602450650&sr=8-4
This episode serves as an epilogue to our series on science and faith, and joining Lee and Kevin is a bona-fide biblical scholar AND scientist, Dr. Denis Lamoureux!
We've referenced his work on the podcast before, and we were thrilled to have Dr. Lamoureux join us for a wonderful discussion about the synthesis between what science shows us and what the scriptures teach us.
Dr. Lamoureux is the author of several books, and has provided what is largely considered to be the best, most accessible work on the subject of the Bible and Evolution. Below are links to Dr. Lamoureux's TED talk, his books, and his website.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QaeGfV-N2kM&ab_channel=TEDxTalks
https://sites.ualberta.ca/~dlamoure/
https://www.amazon.com/Bible-Ancient-Science-Principles-Interpretation/dp/1951252055/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=denis+lamoureux&qid=1602450627&sr=8-1
https://www.amazon.com/Evolution-Scripture-Nature-Say-Yes-ebook/dp/B01CXDN2UG/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=denis+lamoureux&qid=1602450650&sr=8-2
https://www.amazon.com/Evolutionary-Creation-Christian-Approach-Evolution/dp/1556355815/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=denis+lamoureux&qid=1602450650&sr=8-3
https://www.amazon.com/Love-Jesus-Accept-Evolution/dp/1556358865/ref=sr_1_4?dchild=1&keywords=denis+lamoureux&qid=1602450650&sr=8-4
In this episode, Lee and Kevin continue their Q&A session about Science and Faith.
Article mentioned about ancient Jewish interpretations of Genesis 1 is here.
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In this episode Lee and Kevin answer questions sent in by you, our ever-present, faithful listeners! And boy, are these questions deep.
Kevin and Lee were only able to address a few of what were sent in, but will be doing a follow-up to finish answering those questions that remain.
If YOU have any questions you'd like to hear discussed in the next edition of the Q&A, you still have time! Send them to exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com.
Thanks for listening!
In our previous episodes we discussed the dichotomy that exists between science and faith, discussing some of the scientific errors in scripture. In this episode, we discuss some interpretive strategies people have used to reconcile those concepts with one another, and Lee details which strategy he found most helpful and why.
We intend to wrap up this series with a Q&A, and we'd love to hear your questions so we can (hopefully!) answer them!
Referenced in this episode:
The Bible, Rocks, and Time
I Love Jesus & I Accept Evolution
Evolution: Scripture and Nature Say YES!
God's Word in Human Words
On this VERY special episode, Jared Byas joins us as our guest! Jared is the co-host of "The Bible for Normal People" podcast, co-author of "Genesis for Normal People", and author of the new book "Love Matters More; How Fighting to be Right Keeps Us from Loving Like Jesus".
We thoroughly enjoyed this conversation and are honored that Jared took the time to have this conversation with us about his new book.
You can find more information about Jared at the links below;
https://www.jaredbyas.com/
https://peteenns.com/podcast/
and you can buy his book here;
https://www.amazon.com/dp/0310358604?tag=ztrade-20
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In this episode, Kevin and Lee continue their discussion of how one can reconcile what we know about the world and how it works through modern scientific discoveries with a faith of ancient origin.
Because the original part two that we had prepared didn't answer many of the questions sent to us, we re-recorded this episode to better address those questions.
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One of the subjects Kevin and Lee have been wanting to cover is the interplay between science and faith, and how a Christian can reconcile science with what seems to contradict some of the fundamental aspects of our faith in God's word.
How do we interact with a Bible that contradicts what we've learned about the world and how it works?
What do we make of the scientific inaccuracies found in scripture?
Was the writer of Genesis telling us the history of the world exactly as it happened, or was he up to something else?
This was a LONG episode, so we split one session into two episodes.
Part 1 covers the framework that reorients the discussion of science and faith, while part 2 will delve into the particulars.
Have questions? Comments? Drop us a line at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com!
Our society is extremely polarized. So many conversations take place today in which there is little desire to learn more about other perspectives. Instead, most desire to form factions and alliances and act within an echo chamber, and as a result little respect or love is shown to those with whom one may disagree.
How are we to handle disagreements? How are we to regard people we disagree with? Kevin and Lee unpack this concept in this episode.
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We'd love to hear from you!
In our last episode we discussed the concept of total destruction, AKA conditionalism, AKA annihiliationalism related to the fate of the wicked on judgment day. We received some questions, and Lee had a couple of questions too.
Our third Q&A answers these questions, and we certainly hope you're encouraged by it.
If you have questions, topics, or concepts you'd like to hear Kevin and Lee explore, shoot us a message at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com.
Never ones to shy away from the heated topics, Kevin and Lee discuss the nature of Hell in this episode.
What will Hell be like? Will those who perish outside of Christ suffer torment and torture for all eternity? Will they face everlasting destruction? Is Hell a real place at all?
If you have questions, topics, or concepts you'd like to hear Kevin and Lee explore, drop us a line at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com.
Building off of our last podcast, Kevin and Lee discuss the Biblical paradigm regarding alcohol consumption; May a Christian drink alcohol in moderation? Does the Bible prohibit any alcohol consumption apart from medicinal use? What about the different arguments people make to prohibit drinking in moderation?
We're working really hard to keep our episodes short, and we'd love your feedback! Do you like the change? Hate it? Wish we'd just stop? Drop us a line and let us know! exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com
Jesus' first recorded miracle occurs in chapter 2 of John's Gospel, in which He turned water into wine. But... what kind of wine was it?
Was it what we know as wine today? Was it non-alcoholic? What does the Bible actually say about this miracle, and more importantly, does it matter?
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We'd love to hear from you!
In this episode, Lee flies solo, and tells his story of his upbringing, conversion, and journey into and out of legalism.
Please share your thoughts with us and let us know what you think, and what you'd like to hear covered in the future: exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com
On this episode, Kevin and Lee invite their first guests on for a timely discussion about racism in Christianity. This conversation was at times uncomfortable, while at the same time enlightening, thought-provoking, and we hope profitable.
We can't thank our guests enough for taking time out of their schedule to discuss this with us, and we hope you're as blessed by this conversation as we were in having it.
You can read Scot Loyd's blog post that went viral and has been read 2M+ times here: https://scotloyd.blog/2020/06/11/a-letter-to-roy-hes-the-black-guy-in-my-pictures/?fbclid=IwAR3pin7HVeRXyM_o_SmN7sCwg0Aw7IBcBdqZ8bDFObDdT5LlfrDCalr8Uio
...and you find information about the scholarship fund established in his friend Roy's name here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hZQuBRCdvj8&feature=youtu.be&fbclid=IwAR264WvMlC4nfs_lnqsbVRPry03SbK14cfZWmSigOKRLhQRlShHAOK-prpQ
As always, thanks for listening! Please share your thoughts with us and let us know what you think, and what you'd like to hear covered in the future: exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com
We STRONGLY recommend listening to these episodes in order, as each episode builds upon the context of the episodes that have come before it.
We've finally reached the conclusion of our study and discussion on Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage, and our second Q&A episode. We very much appreciate the feedback we've both received about our podcast, and are super encouraged that it's functioning as a help for so many people.
In this episode, we answer questions sent in by you listeners about some specific situations and scenarios involving Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage.
We realize that some in our audience might not take the time or have the time to listen to every episode we recorded. Even so, we encourage all who are interested in this topic to thoughtfully consider the whole of the body of work we've put forth. Thank you again for listening!
f you have questions, topics, or concepts you'd like to hear Kevin and Lee explore, drop us a line at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com
We STRONGLY recommend listening to these episodes in order, as each episode builds upon the context of the episodes that have come before it.
In the previous 6 episodes, Kevin and Lee have discussed in detail what the Bible teaches about Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage, and the historical, literary, and cultural context of those teachings. The divorce certificate, the Biblical grounds for divorce, Jesus' teachings, and Paul's teachings regarding the parameters under which divorce is justifiable and when divorce is sinful.
In this episode, we discuss what repentance requires when one finds themselves divorced without cause or a justifiable Biblical reason. Does repentance require lifelong celibacy? Does repentance require subsequent divorce if one remarries after a Biblically "unlawful" divorce?
This episode deals with the practical application of everything we've discussed so far, and we hope it's a blessing to our listeners.
Next week we'll draw our study of Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage to a close with our Q&A episode! We've received some excellent questions and look forward to discussing them.
Send us your questions and comments to exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com. We'd love to hear from you! Thanks for listening!
We STRONGLY recommend listening to these episodes in order, as each episode builds upon the context of the episodes that have come before it.
In part 6 of our series on Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage, we discuss Paul's Teaching on the subject.
Does Paul prohibit remarriage?
Does Paul demand lifelong celibacy after a divorce for no cause?
Do Jesus and Paul contradict each other?
These questions and more are addressed in this episode.
Thanks again for listening, and send us your questions! exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com
We STRONGLY recommend listening to these episodes in order, as each episode builds upon the context of the episodes that have come before it.
In part 5 of our series on Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage, we continue our discussion on the teaching of Jesus, specifically regarding the 'innocent party' and the 'exception clause'. Who are the innocent? What does the exception clause entail?
This is a LONG episode, but our desire has always been to emphasize thoroughness and completeness over brevity.
Thanks again for listening, and send us your questions! exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com
We STRONGLY recommend listening to these episodes in order, as each episode builds upon the context of the episodes that have come before it.
In Part 4 of our series on Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage, we delve into Jesus' teaching on the subject after we contextualized Jesus' teaching in part 3. We discuss the guilty party, who they were, WHY they were guilty, and what specifically made them guilty.
We intended to discuss what repentance looks like in this context, but have elected to devote an entire episode to that concept. Don't worry, it's coming!
We still plan on ending this series with an episode dedicated to answering the questions of our listeners, and to that end we NEED YOUR QUESTIONS!! Send us your questions here ---> exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com. Thanks for listening!
Our previous episodes on this topic addressed the nature of Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage in the Old Testament, under the Law of Moses. We discussed the divorce certificate and valid reasons for divorce under the Hebrew Law. If you haven't already listened to those episodes, it is STRONGLY RECOMMENDED that you do so, as they provide the background context behind what is discussed in part 3.
In this edition, we begin to discuss Jesus' teachings on Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage, and we begin with the cultural, literary, and historical context in which Jesus lived. This background is critical to understanding what Jesus taught, and WHY he taught what he did. This was a fun discussion, and we think you'll be well informed and edified by it.
We are excited to discuss this topic, and are planning on ending this series with an episode dedicated to answering the questions of our listeners! Send you questions to us at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com. Thanks for listening!
In part 2 of our study, we continue the discussion of the cultural context of Divorce in the Old Testament, enumerating the scriptural justifications encoded within the Law of Moses, and how those reasons for divorce were executed under Jewish Law. Parts 1 and 2 are crucial to understanding the cultural and historical context of marriage, divorce, and remarriage, and we strongly encourage you to listen to these episodes first before moving on to future episodes in this series.
These are lengthy, but in respect for the topic at hand we value thoroughness over brevity.
We are excited to discuss this topic, and are planning on ending this series with an episode dedicated to answering the questions of our listeners! Send you questions to us at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com. Thanks for listening!
In this episode we begin a multi-part series on a very important topic, Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage. Throughout religious history, there have been a multitude of opinions and interpretations about what the Bible says regarding the right to divorce and remarry, and as a result there is much division over this topic.
In part 1, Kevin and Lee begin at the beginning and discuss the role that the divorce certificate played in the ancient context, why it was encoded within God's law, and what it's particular functions were.
We are excited to discuss this topic, and are planning on ending this series with an episode dedicated to answering the questions of our listeners! Send you questions to us at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com. Thanks for listening!
Hey folks! This is our first episode where we answer questions sent in from our audience. In this episode, we answer one question posed by one of our listeners: How does obedience fit into a relational approach to Christianity?
Kevin and Lee answer this question and discuss what obedience looks like when one places faith in Jesus, and pursues a relationship with Jesus vs obedience under a system/checklist of rules and regulations.
We look forward to answering more questions, and we're excited to dive into the topic of Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage in Episode 5, which will come next. Send us your questions, comments, and anything else you'd like to share at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com
Thanks for listening!
In episode 3 we unpacked the idea of the Letter of the Law vs. the Intent of the Law, and towards the end of the episode we discussed what obedience looks like in light of that idea. In this episode, we discuss the oft-used term "Relationship with Jesus" and what that means. Does that term describe a scriptural idea? Neither of us thought so for a long while, until we learned to look at God's word as God's 'story' rather than a legal document, or 'case law'.
ALSO! Episode 5 will begin a series on a topic that is very important to many; Marriage, Divorce, and Remarriage. We don't know exactly how many episodes it will take to adequately cover what we want to cover, but we want to end the series with an episode devoted to answering your questions on the topic.
Email your questions to us at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com
Thanks for listening!
In this episode Kevin and Lee unpack the concept of the "Spirit" of the law and the Letter of the law, and the idea that one cannot keep the "Spirit" of the law unless the letter of the law is also kept.
Is ALL violation of the law sin? Can the letter of the law be violated and it NOT be sin? We discuss these ideas and more in this episode of the EFPG podcast.
For episode 2, Kevin and Lee waste no time in digging into a controversial topic; the idea that there will only be few saved.
Hello listeners! In this episode Kevin and Lee introduce themselves and the podcast, and discuss the purpose of the podcast and what they hope to accomplish with it.
If you have questions, topics, or concepts you'd like to hear Kevin and Lee explore, drop them a line at exploringfaithpursuinggrace@gmail.com
Thanks for listening!