Inevitable: A Classic Sci-Fi Podcast: Recent Episodes
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We’re not doing this for you.
We’re not doing it for us.
We know not at what depths the currents that compelled us to discuss and “review” classic sci-fi tv and movies in a laid-back, slightly analytical, somewhat-humorous fashion run.
So what do we know?
It was all inevitable.
It’s really here. The end of the first era of Trust Your Doctor. Stay tuned to find out if the show regenerates just as the Doctor does. To peel back the curtain just a touch, it’s normally me (Dylan) who writes these descriptions. I don’t know really what to say so instead I’ll quote BrianContinue reading →
Speaking of long sleeps, it’s time for the podcast to rest. I need a long sleep right now to be honest. I caught a cold a day after recording this and my brain is in so much pain right now it’s insane. About ready to pass out right now but I’m waiting for the episodeContinue reading →
You could argue that I (Dylan) have the responsibility seat, since I edit these shows every week. I actually recently adjusted my chair and have massively improved my seating arrangement. My arms can rest a little more naturally on the table now, instead of feeling like they’re at my shoulders all the time. It’s soContinue reading →
The past few days I’ve spent a lot of time contemplating life, staring at my reflection. I used to have a fish pond at my parents house. It was filled with Koi. They used to stay pretty small since it was a small pond, and they’d eat the algae at the bottom. Sadly most ofContinue reading →
The real sound of silence is how crappy Kiyan’s audio is this week. Something something I could make a song reference here but it just seems too easy so why would I do that? Instead I’m just going to ramble at length about literally nothing. Just kidding, I won’t do that. Instead I’ll just endContinue reading →
The More Things Change, The More They Come in Clutch. When I have parties at the airport they always make me do a confetti check when I leave. It’s required! I have to go through the metal detector, then the wand, then an x-ray machine, then an air blower, then a magnet… look it’s aContinue reading →
I had an affair with a computer once. (Editor’s note: Her (2013)) It was a long time ago. Back when computers were curvy and that was attractive. She was a big hulking room sized machine. A Cray-1. Man the curves on that thing. Just knew how to turn me on in all the right ways.Continue reading →
I’m an expert on Court Martials. Look I was just kidding with that by-line. I don’t know anything about court martials actually, all I know is that they’re basically just military trials. I have as little contact with the military as possible in all honesty, although… nah I won’t say anything more. It’s Court Martial,Continue reading →
Recording this episode was an Ordeal. I’ve survived loads of ordeals though. This one was pretty trivial compared to some of the ordeals I’ve been through in my life. There was that time I got held up at a red light when I really needed to pee. Now that was what I call a trueContinue reading →
Is there a spacelash? Timelash, spacelash, temporallash, they’re all the same thing. It’s just a time corridor that links you to the future. Or the past. And you have to jump into it and travel through time and… I don’t know where I’m going with this, it’s 10:30 at night and I only just rememberedContinue reading →
I had an affair with a Dalek once. No, I swear, I did! He was very loving. He treated me nicely and would always hunt down anybody who ever hurt me. If somebody said something mean to me he would exterminate them. If somebody got in my way he would destroy them. And if IContinue reading →
butnowimback-pinkmartini.wav Guess who’s back? Back again? Inevitable. Inevitable is back and you might say that it was all Inevitable because god dammit that’s exactly why we named ourselves that. Because this was always inevitable. Always. For all time. It’s The Man Who Came Back, written by Terence Feely and aired on February 3, 1971. Show-notes:Continue reading →
The FAA did not approve this episode. I had a flight path filed once, for the local airport. It was a pretty steep path, came in right over these houses. And we saw a guy just standing in the road with a rocket launcher. I dunno how they got there, but there they were. JustContinue reading →
When it comes to benders, you’ve got a couple types to choose from. First. there’s bender from Futurama, Then, there’s bendy straws. And that’s it. Usually, those are your only options. But UFO provides a third. It’s Mindbender, written by Tony Barwick and aired on January 13, 1971. Show-notes: 3:50: Pretty sure Steven will suggestContinue reading →
Guess what? Inevitable survived our hiatus and we’re officially back in action. So this week I was walking down the road when I was bitten by a cheetah person. Oh shoot, wrong show. Uh, shoot, uh actually it was an alien. With green skin. It bit me on my arm, through my space suit. YeahContinue reading →
Topic of the week: hiatuses. I’m kind of confused about this episode actually. The explanation for the super strength is the fact that people’s nervous systems were super charged, but does that also mean they got stuffed with thirty kilos of C4? Because some of those explosions were absolutely bananas. No way there wasn’t someContinue reading →
This week on Space Inevitable: A Space Sci-Fi Space Podcast. I’m ready for my close up, are you? Cuz this week the aliens are coming in full force to take some snaps of us while we podcast. That’s right, real live aliens are currently taking pictures of us right now. You could be their nextContinue reading →
Our audio tracks somehow got slightly misaligned in this episode, so the conversation is a little off. Sorry. I never realized triangles could be squares you know? In the future, I think we should aim to reduce the number of sides in a polygon, rather than increasing. So that would be the triangle would goContinue reading →
This week we learned not to plant seeds in Straker’s head. Sometimes I wonder if maybe the biggest threat to SHADO is Straker himself. So many of the things he does seem to be the detriment to the organization as a whole, it’s a hard theory to ignore. Should Straker be replaced? Was Paul ontoContinue reading →
Something something title of this episode something something Freeman Apologist. Look if I had a sub as a kid, I would smash it too. Actually, I have this Lego set of the Beatles Yellow Submarine, and when I got it and I used to have this obsession with taking it apart and rebuilding it. IContinue reading →
Something something, we didn’t even make an Eldrad Must Die reference somehow.
Honestly, with a name like Straker, it’s not too hard to comprehend why people would want to kill him. I mean, it’s such a pretentious name. Just listen to it as it rolls off the tongue. Straker. It’s harsh. Arrogant. Bombastic. Not saying we should kill Straker, just saying i empathize with Foster. It’s Kill Straker!, written by Donald James and aired on November 4, 1970.
Show-notes:2:57: We have an episode on The Prisoner’s Living in Harmony, if you’re so inclined to listen to more Inevitable. Also: The Girl Who was Death.
5:1: Redshirts is a good book, I would recommend you pick it up.
17:00: This is like the third time I’ve linked this Shado Library timeline.
20:27: Here’s that quora link for everyone following along at home. And yes, we have googled whether you can reattach someone’s ear for our podcasts. Don’t ask.
24:45: For more about Doctor Who, check out Doctor Who. Alternatively, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
50:50: Conveniently for you, dear audience, we have an episode of Trust Your Doctor on Curse of Fenric. Apparently I can’t even remember the name of the serial correctly, oops.
52:38: Here’s the Dumb and Dumber scene I was talking about. Not as overblown as I remembered it. Also, it was Jeff Daniels’ character, not Jim Carey’s.
55:17: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, our Blake’s 7 podcast.
56:23: Anorak Zone ranks this episode as the 17th best of UFO.
1:02:15: Are we filthy corpos too? (Editor’s note: I am. Dylan’s not.)
1:06:20: Wikipedia calls Afrikaans a “daughter language” of Dutch. Apparently I also had the direction of the mutual intelligibility backwards. See the link for more information.
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I used to have ESP, then I took an arrow to the brain.
Can’t believe I just unironically referenced Skyrim in the episode description. When was the last time that was even relevant? Would you consider magical mind reading as ESP? That feels like a whole new can of worms that I’ll leave closed for now. You’re welcome. It’s ESP, written by Alan Fennel and aired on October 21, 1970.
Show-notes:
4:02: For a more incompetently cobbled together podcast overall, check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
5:55: If you’re a fan of Blake’s 7, I highly recommend checking out Making Blake’s 7 on twitter. He documents tons of behind-the-scenes stuff that no one’s ever seen before.
14:34: His name is actually Michael Billington, and he really was in contention for the role of Bond.
33:39: Well, here’s information about the Unabomber for this unaware, I guess.
35:56: He Who Remains really broke the fourth wall.
56:40: Definitely not.
57:13: Good news, the TARDIS wiki has a page on Shockeye.
1:00:57: John Dies at the End is a thing, I guess.
1:03:06: Check out CRT Pixels on twitter for examples of this.
1:04:00: Children of the Stones really was 2 years ago, damn. (Editor’s note: can’t believe 2020 was 15 years ago.)
1:05:57: The series, I guess if you’re really curious, is called Bug Out. And here’s the commercial. Kiyan probably shouldn’t watch this. (Editor’s note: this was actually funny.)
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I have plenty of questions about this episode, to be honest.
Look, if I’m being straight with you, I always go into every episode of UFO with a bunch of questions. Dozens of them. Hundreds even. And every time the episode answers every single one of them. Can you believe that? Really just proves how good of a show this is. It’s A Question of Priorities, written by Tony Barwick and aired on October 14, 1970.
Show-notes:0:55: Kiyan and I decidedly did not find Love and Monsters funny, as you can hear in our Trust Your Doctor episode on it.
9:22: Here’s a random excerpt from the 2018 Doctor Who marathon on Twitch. It’s from Barbara and Ian’s departure.
18:16: Good news for our audio listeners (everyone) we have a picture of Straker’s car steering wheel. (Editor’s note: Damn that falls pretty high on the hilarity scale.)
21:42: Anorak Zone is definitely the MVP of Inevitable. Here’s their UFO ranking.
23:37: The Last of Sheila is a whodunnit, which are always fun you know.
26:06: Thanks for plugging Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast, this week, Steven.
26:31: This is what a macaque is.
27:27: Damn, I forgot about this episode of Extreme Cheapskates where this lady cooks a lasagna via dishwasher. I didn’t rewatch the full clip for the purposes of this note, but you can if you want to. Knock yourself out.
29:26: Have some information on the history of Penicillin. Also, bacteria were actually discovered in 1676.
33:03: Early Inevitable episodes are availableat your local podcasting platform.
36:39: Star Maidens is a British-German show. Both its (Star Maidens’) wikipedia page and the random anecdotes I’ve heard about it call it a battle of the sexes type thing in space.
38:45: Don’t tell Steven but I’ve only ever watched the movie version of Red Dragon.
40:00: For all 0 people reading this who care about Yugioh (or even know what it it), check out Twitch reacting to the reveal of Dark Magician Girl.
52:3: Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
1:01:00: The Gerry Anderson website’s article on the missing ending to this episode seems somewhat legit.
1:07:50: The Outer Limits (1963) somehow wasn’t deleted off everyone’s tapes back in the day. (Editor’s note: I have no idea what this means.)
1:18:35 We’ve watched that.
1:19:44: This limerick only appears on Leigh Mercer’s wikipedia page, as basically the only important thing he ever did.
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His book, Standalones and Stepping Stones: Lemons Loom Like Rain
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This week on Inevitable: mild conflict over whether this episode is good or not.
Was Conflict good? Was it bad? Don’t worry, it’s all up to you. We just sit here and talk about the episode for an hour and that’s about all we’re good at, if you think about it. We can really lay on those plot summaries like nobody else. Enough talk, it’s Conflict, written by Ruric Powell and aired on October 7, 1970.
Show-notes:1:00: I was probably actually thinking of how often Loki says he has “glorious purpose”.
5:47: Realizing I need to link the TARDIS wiki page on Yates since a bunch of our fans are probably not Doctor Who fans. (Editor’s note: here’s the page on Benton for good measure. And the page on Yeats. Why not? For more on anything related to Doctor Who, check out the definitive source on the show sanctioned by the BBC itself: our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.)
29:23: I bet Kiyan will link this episode of Evangelion. (Editor’s note: No, but it was episode 11.)
30:19: Yeah, it’s Peter Carlin, not George Carlin.
44:42: Looks like Destination Moonbase Alpha was compiled from episodes of Space: 1999 if I’m reading this correctly.
46:40: “Don’t worry, I decided not to do it so Kiyan could have the satisfaction of doing it for himself.” -Dylan, 2022. Be sure to check out Delayed Replay, a podcast by friend of the show Steven Shinder.
48:20: If for some reason you want to listen to us talk about Blake’s 7 more than we do here, check out the entire podcast we did on it, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
49:53: Based on the Webster definition of “fray” it is definitely not the word I wanted to use here.
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Today’s not-title title: “The Huskies of the Cat World”.
I have an aunt who has a Husky, actually. She’s really cute. The dog. Although, to be fair I guess, I’ve never actually met the dog since she got it after the last time we visited the country. The dog could be a ferocious killer for all I know. It’s The Cat With Ten Lives, written by David Tomblin and aired on September 30, 1970.
Show-notes:
1:05: Sorry Nathan. The podcast we’re referring to here is Flight Through Entirety.
1:57: I’m pretty much just reading off David Tomblin’s Wikipedia page.
5:10: For more on Torchwood, you could watch Torchwood. Or you could do the smart thing and check out our coverage of Torchwood on Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
17:20: Living in Harmony and Fall Out, two great Prisoner episodes. Interestingly, Living in Harmony was cowritten by David Tomblin.
19:50: Here’s a deep cut to Tintin, Thomson and Thompson.
20:38: Courage the Cowardly Dog was a TV show. (Editor’s note: kind of underselling it but fine.)
25:49: Crying of Lot 49 is by Thomas Pynchon. If it’s anything like the last Pynchon book I started, it’s impossible to comprehend sober.
26:15: The Postal Investigative Service has their own website.
31:38: Apparently The Spruce Eats has a sister site named The Spruce Pets. Here’s a page about Siamese cats, or something.
32:23: Read these random facts about Sphynx cats over on Wikipedia.
48:13: Have you ever heard the tragedy of Darth Plagueis The Wise?
55:41: Cats was a travesty of a movie released in 2019.
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UFO really gunning for the Prisoner too with these one word titles.
Inevitable has a one word title too, actually. In a way. I mean, Inevitable is a single word, but we have a sub title too. A sub title about this podcast being about this podcast allegedly being about sci fi or something like that. I dunno, that’s what I’m told this show is about. I just show up each week and talk. It’s Exposed, written by Tony Barwick and aired on September 23, 1970.
Show-notes:
6:40: Is this the first time I’m linking the TARDIS wiki on Inevitable? Anyway, here’s mutos. (Editor’s note: Nah, probably not.)
7:10: Here’s a way better explanation of flapping than mine.
10:13: Apparently the etch a sketch has been manufactured by a new company since 2014.
13:50: Yeah, Straker is platinum blonde. Deal with it.
27:33: Snooping as usual was uploaded in 2008, which makes it 14 years old. Ish.
44:20: It appears that I clipped the microphone here. Oops.
47:33: You never go full force. (Editor’s note: I have never heard of this.)
50:00: Here’s a pdf of Benito Cereno if you want to become the second person to have read it this century.
55:45: Alright so The Magical World of Disney is actually part of a larger project anthology series thing from Disney. Early on, it was about Disney land, but looks like they branched out to other topics.
1:06:55: Here’s the song I use for my ringtone. Yeah.
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It’s like putting on your old comforting sweater.
“I know what a god damn Tesco express is”. These are the fateful words that mark our journey into the depths of 1970’s British television once again. If there are people more well versed, more well studied, in old British sci-fi television than we are and is under the age of 30, then let us know. Because frankly I don’t think there are. I’m also convinced that sentence is barely even grammatical and I expect Kiyan to complain about it later on. Oh well. It’s Identified, written by Gerry Anderson, Sylvia Anderson and Tony Barwick and aired on September 16, 1970.
Show-notes:
9:12: Why would you rename Doppelganger to Journey to the Far Side of the Sun? The latter is way cooler, fair, but why rename it at all?!
9:48: Sunshine and Solar Crisis are both about restarting the sun. Weird.
13:03: E-D-F! E-D-F! You’re welcome.
13:48: The 2004 Thunderbirds movie has an 18% on Rotten Tomatoes. Thunderbirds Are Go is an animated reboot of the series that aired from 2015 to 2020.
17:35: This is as good a time as any to link ufoseries.com.
21:40: According to ufoseries dot come, the most recent UFO trading cards came out in 2004.
27:07: Here’s some “data” from Cambridge on how to pronounce “UFO.”
32:17: The book was The Eyre Affair, for anyone curious.
34:38: Oh so that’s why it’s called that.
34:52: I think this is the Family Guy chicken fight I was referring to here. Not 100% sure since there’s like 10 of them. Also, Family Guy sucks.
57:00: SHADO vehicles
1:14:30: The reason I said this is that Vila is the only character in Blake’s 7 who is in every episode. For more on Blake’s 7, watch Blake’s 7. Alternatively and/or additionally, check out our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
1:20:43: Is this the most specific award I’ve ever tried to give on the podcast?
1:26:00: CNN has an interesting little article on the bent nose of the Concorde.
1:27:30: Anorak Zone’s UFO episode ranking.
1:2800: I’m actually gonna link directly to the timeline page on shadolibrary.org.
1:30:43: I zoned out, I forgot to figure it out.
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If this had a title, it would be “The Illuminati-esque Drawings of a Four Year Old”
We have a tendency here at Decorative Vegetable towers to use the suffix “-esque” to describe things. We’ve done it on Trust Your Doctor (“PJ Hammond-esque”) and here on Inevitable (also “PJ Hammond-esque”), and now we do it once more. No, we didn’t use “PJ Hammond-esque” in this episode. It’s The Children, written by Matthew Graham and aired on December 16, 2015.
Show-notes:
10:28: We paid attention to these episodes.
14:07: Gonna be a bit of a lunatic and link the Harry Potter wiki page for the sign of the deathly hallows so you can see what I’m talking about. (Editor’s note: Literally what about this is being a lunatic?)
41:30: I was googling whether or not you’re supposed to dilute Koolaid and I kept finding people who have some sort of Koolaid lab for kids to understand concentrations and dilution. Neat? (Editor’s note: Yeah I mean I don’t know either. I just made this up on the spot. Sounds right though.)
53:30: don’t worry, the other guys name is Danny Glover.
1:01:32: This has to be at least the fifth time I’ve linked this Titanic meme for the podcast.
1:03:32: Sense
1:05:12: We watched A Fistful of Dollars and the rest of the Dollars Trilogy on our movie trilogy podcast Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast.
1:05:40: I tried to find a clip of Cheyenne’s death in the movie but I could not. Oh well.
1:06:47: Here’s the poster for Once Upon a Time in the West.
1:15:00:* What the hell is a microgenre and why do we call vaporwave a microgenre?
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Warning: this episode is filled with deceit
I don’t know what exactly we’re deceiving you about but I know it’s somewhere in this episode. If you end up figuring out what it is, please let me know. Our email address is at the end of the episode, so just listen until then and you can get it for yourself. It’s The Deceivers, written by Matthew Graham and aired on December 15, 2015.
Show-notes:
2:00: To my (Dylan, the guy who edits these episodes but not the show-notes) surprise, Kiyan sounds the same as always on the recording though I will admit he did not sound the same on the Skype call. (Editor’s note: Yeah I sound almost exactly the same.)
3:26: Good news, dear listener, I have a link to this article (“A New Beginning for Childhood’s End”) right here.
10:20:: This link to goodreads has the version of the book we’re both talking about here.
18:50: I don’t even want to remember Rubber, so just watch this trailer for Rubber and call it a day. (And google if you want to know more I guess.)
26:47: We actually were talking about this on recording. I think the internet has completely destroyed my short-term memory by this point.
47:50: I actually tried to look for this sound effect online but my google-fu failed and I couldn’t find a good rip of it anywhere.
1:02:21: Were you killed? Sadly yes… but I lived!
1:09:17: Takes 2 seconds to look up 心. I’m holding this against them.
1:11:14: The Brave Little Toaster is a movie about a brave… little… toaster.
1:19:01: Gonna start my new coffee table book “Tractors that look like trampolines” with the poster for this TV show.
1:21:39: reject humanity, return to monke.
1:27:09: Because we didn’t want to do 7 people’s television and movie history in one episode… Kiyan.
1:32:37: Here I’ll link Evolve for you.
1:34:11: He didn’t just “work with Nine Inch Nails on a music video” he was a contributor in varying capacities (including programmer, remixer and performer on synthesizer and theremin) on half a dozen NIN albums and songs.
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I think we should rename ourselves to Podcasting Overlords.
Isn’t it weird how the word “lord” is used in a lot of sci-fi? Like Time Lords… Overlords… Lords of Time…. lords… Look this was a way better point when I started this sentence than when I finished it. So you’re just going to have to pretend to agree with me. It’s The Overlords, written by Matthew Graham and aired on December 14, 2015.
Show-notes:
1:10: Get your own copy of the book here, at Barnes and Noble. For once I decided not to link amazon. (Editor’s note: Get it at a local bookstore.)
1:48: Xenogears is an rpg… or something. It’s also the subject matter of the best text-based let’s play ever made. By the way, the English translation for the game (impressively completed by translator Richard Honeywood) changes “Karellen” to “Krelian.” Maybe Honeywood didn’t get the reference? Could just be some sort of error as the English script also misrepresents the character name “Myyah” as “Miang.”
3:14: I’ve actually struggled to find an actual text quote of Kurt Vonnegut saying this, but to be fair I’ve struggled to find Vonnegut saying anything about Arthur C. Clarke even though they were well acquainted.
12:16: Arthur C. Clarke refers to “President Bush [senior]” in his introduction. Interestingly he also refers to the TV show V, which will get mentioned later in this podcast, in the same introduction as being a perfectly acceptable (to him) adaptation of Childhood’s End.
18:44: Check out our first episode on the Prisoner (2009).
21:25: A lot of my information on the behind the scenes “creation of” Childhood’s End is coming from this article here.
22:40: And the second article I’m referring to is this Rolling Stone article, which has much of the same information.
26:40: We have regretfully watched The Da Vinci Code and its sequels for our (also regretful) movie trilogy podcast Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast.
27:22: If you go and listen to our episodes on The Prisoner (2009) you can hear some of this confusion, especially towards the end of the season.
28:00 We have equally regretfully covered the Space Pirates (Doctor Who) on our Doctor Who Podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast. Multiple times.
31:30: Fully synthetic plastic was actually invented as early as 1907.
40:25: Torchwood’s Children of Earth. Good times. Not regretful at all. We watched it on Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast. Check out the first episode of it if it strikes your fancy.
49:35: Dylan said this because this was a reference to our Eve of the Daleks episode on Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
58:30: Daisy.
1:23:30: I don’t know how I forgot this, but the quote is from The Last Jedi, it’s Yoda talking to Luke.
1:25:33: Her name is Jennifer Anne.
1:44:44: We have also regretfully watched Alien 3 on Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast, our movie trilogy podcast.
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Apple still doesn’t like “episode 0.”
This season we’re doing Childhood’s End, the classic SyFy tv show. You know, from 2015? The classic! It’s basically already immortalized in the science-fiction canon. I mean, the book certainly is, but probably not the TV show. Yet. Well anyway we also announce that we’re doing UFO as soon as we finish this season of Childhood’s End.
Show-notes:
You need show-notes for this?
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And in the end….
The people you kill are equal to the people you save. Or something like that. That’s how the song goes right? Because we’re at the end of another show and I really need to make hip topical references so the kids think I’m cool and stuff. Which means referencing hip cool trendy current music. It’s Serenity (2005), written by Joss Whedon and released on August 22, 2005.
Show-notes:3:06: This is not the video that Kiyan is referring to, but it’s related. Apparently in 2012 they did a “ten year anniversary” panel at comic con, and someone uploaded the full panel to YouTube.
7:34: Whedonesque was actually taken down this year (2021), so I’m going to link to the wikipedia page on Whedonesque rather than directly to the site.
14:04: I (Dylan) actually found the previous panel mentioned in 3:15 by looking for the panel Kiyan was talking about, so it would probably have been somewhat fruitless to try find the BTS features on YouTube.
14:36: Pretty sure we were saying here that Dailymotion has been the unsung hero of our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast. And if not, we should have been.
15:16: Don’t worry, here’s a link to Veoh for you.
17:14: His name was Monty.
22:41: I (Dylan) regret not bringing up Jubal Early asking what River could do and Simon responding (paraphrased)”I just found out she’s psychic idk what she can do”.
51:20: IT’S A TRAP.
1:03:20: It’s quite rare that a high school has its own Wikipedia page (Editor’s note: Nah), but Diamond Ranch High School does.
1:18:01: The Rime of the Ancient Mariner by the one and only STC.
1:34:17: Here’s a bit on The Killer Angels in relation to Firefly.
1:51:22: Don’t worry I can link you straight to the “Cultural Impact” section of the Serenity page.
1:57:53: Here’s a link to information on Childhood’s End. We didn’t mention this on the episode, but we decided after recording that we’re also going to reread the book and talk about it as it comes up during the show, so if you’d like to do that before we start, perhaps find a copy of the book yourself.
1:58:27: What I’m referring to here is, of course, our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
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Quote of the week: “The whole podcast is a sham held together by dreams.”
We’re almost at the end of Season 7 of Inevitable. Inevitable has already outlasted all of the shows we’ve watched on this show. Including Lexx. At least in terms of number of seasons, so take that, Lexx. It’s Objects in Space, written by Joss Whedon and aired on December 13, 2002
Show-notes:0:42: This is our Abbey Road, I guess.
1:03: Lol no it won’t. (Editor’s note: ?)
3:24: Our episode on The Message did (confirmed) go out two weeks ago.
3:50: Speaking of Blake’s 7, check out our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
11:29: Rick and Morty did this in the episode Morty’s Mind Blowers, but it was also done earlier on the show Community, in Paradigms of Human Memory.
1:56: First instance of the word BAMF since about 2010 probably.
16:27: This is pretty close to what happens in Serenity (the movie) actually.
33:20: Jasper Fforde actually has an “upgrade” page for every book he’s published (including Shades of Grey)
51:20: You can’t make this sht up.
59:23: Cowboy Bebop was recently canceled by Netflix… wait, wrong Cowboy Bebop. (Editor’s note: No, that was the right one.)
1:04:50 Avon’s former lover was named Anna Grant.
1:12:59:* We talked about the “sci-fi-ness” of The Prisoner on our Arrival episode.
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I don’t have a heart of gold, I have a heart of silver.
What is a heart of silver, you ask? Well I’m glad you’re curious because frankly I am too. What the hell does it mean to have a heart of silver? I just kind of made it up on the spot to try and be witty for the podcast, but I don’t think it’s working. In fact I’m literally making it worse the longer I keep talking so I’m going to stop now. It’s Heart of Gold, written by Brett Matthews and aired on August 19, 2003.
Show-notes:3:52: Somehow I googled “I’m down Seinfeld” and found out it was apparently in a bunch of episodes, so here’s a random clip of “Alright, I’m down” from a random episode.
6:07: Did Brett Matthews do more than just get Joss Whedon coffee? Decide for yourself.
6:53: Here’s the interview with Bret Matthews. He doesn’t say anything about being Whedon’s assistant.
7:28: We talked about Gold over on Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, our Blake’s 7 podcast.
8:32: How long do you think it’ll be until our show-notes are just 50 notes referring to other episodes of our own podcast? Well anyway, we watched Once Upon a Time in the West on Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast, our movie trilogy podcast. Here’s the first scene of Once Upon a Time in the West by the way. Pretty good scene. Shoutout to whoever uploaded it to Vimeo.
10:15: Here’s the full soundtrack to Once Upon a Time in the West if you have one hour, five minutes, and six second to kill.
15:07: Ever closer to the singularity, check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
18:52: A remarkably prescient slip given what happens “Next Week on Firefly.” (Hint: it’s a deleted scene involving incest.)
24:21: Bolo ties are actually very fashionable, ok? (Editor’s note: nah.)
25:48: Yes, yes I do.
41:33: 9. Hide your kids, hide your wife is nine years old.
47:37: Not sure wtf I was even talking about here because she doesn’t even die in the episode. Lmao.
58:29: Interestingly, this is the Firefly episode I’ve gutted the most audio out of for Inevitable. A solid 10-11 minutes.
59:53: I don’t even know where to start looking deciding what exactly I’ll link for this so I’ll let Wikipedia tell you all about Milton.
1:14:13: Jesus Christ, it’s Jason Bourne.
1:21:00: Here you go, go and learn about one of the weirdest planes still in service: the V-22.
1:22:21: Hugh Laurie also filmed this audition tape in a bathroom in a hotel in Africa, if I recall correctly.
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I’m sending out an SOS.
I hope that someone gets my message in a bottle. Yeah I just quoted a Police song in the podcast description. What are you gonna do about it? That’s right, nothing cuz the version of me that wrote this is long moved past this joke by the time you read this. It’s The Message, written by Joss Whedon and Tim Minear and aired on July 15, 2003.
Show-notes:
2:01: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
4:21: For everybody else who doesn’t know who Jerry Bruckheimer is, Wikipedia is here to help.
7:01: Damn…
7:22: As I’m about to discover, Iron Man is actually a Black Sabbath song, not an AC/DC song.
8:52: DOCTOR WHOOOO HEY. Doctor Who.
9:30: Movements in Film has more information on the Kuleshov effect if you’re curious. And why wouldn’t you be?
20:07: There are Firefly Novels being published in 2021, and one of them prominently features Jayne’s knit cap.
21:20: Here’s the Cowboy Bebop wiki page on the episode Kiyan is talking about.
22:35: Cowboy Bebop actually takes place in 2071, so I was 1 year off. Sue me.
23:52: Much Ado About Nothing, 2012.
25:00: Joss Whedon’s Much Ado About Nothing Isn’t Much of Anything at All. Enjoy this Wired article you freaks.
31:30: I really did google it, and the second result that came up is this Discover article on removing someone’s amygdala.
46:42: The reference is to Robocop. I don’t know why I keep making Robocop references.
51:24: I watched an ok-ish movie about this years ago called Buried.
1:06:15: I believe this is the page that Kiyan is looking at for this character age information. (Editor’s note: yep)
1:13:35: A kind piratey soul uploaded the video of the Toy Story 2 bloopers to YouTube.
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Something something wish dot com tactical jacket.
Look I’ll give it to you straight doc, I don’t know what to write here. I could make a bunch of jokes about trash but Kiyan made most of them in the episode. Ok so did I, I made a bunch of those jokes too. So it seems kind of overplayed now, I don’t want to beat the dead horse, you know? This nonsense late night rambling will have to do for you. It’s Trash, written by Ben Edlund and Jose Molina and aired on June 28, 2003.
Show-notes:0:52: Wow my accent really came out here for some reason.
1:36: Here’s the same article I linked a few weeks ago indicating that Firefly was rerun.
6:01: Some hero uploaded the opening scene of Breaking Bad to YouTube so we can confirm this for you.
7:10: fornoob dot com has some more information on Mal’s tattoo. Apparently Nathan Fillion got it when he was young and now regrets it. Lmao sucks.
12:41: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
15:40: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, our Blake’s 7 podcast.
25:50: Ron Glass actually died in 2016. Damn.
33:44: Russell Madden comes through with the transcript of the episode.
43:34: Why am I the one always linking random memes in the show-notes. It’s apparently actually a monkey puppet.
54:24: Here’s our episode on Blake’s 7’s Breakdown on our Blake’s 7 podcast Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
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If I could have titled this episode, it would have been titled “The Absolution of Jayne Cobb” (Editor’s note: I like “Toiling Down Memory Lane” better.)
Once upon a time I fought in a war. I mean, not really. I couldn’t even comprehend what it would be like to fight in a war. I’m actually a vehement pacifist. That last statement is true, by the way, I didn’t make it up for this sort of pseudo-story I’m telling in the episode description. It’s War Stories, written by Cheryl Cain and aired on December 6, 2002
Show-notes:1:16: I’d actually highly recommend checking out All That Jazz, it’s great.
12:28: It was me James, the author of All Your Pain.
12:55: I jerked you off at superspeed!
23:25: You can go back and find that discussion in our episode on Serenity.
26:15: Yeah, they were ghillie suits.
31:36: Ok, fine, you’ve twisted my arm. I’ll link to How The Grinch Stole Christmas. (Editor’s note: why? Also check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who Podcast, to hear us talk about Doctor Who.)
33:53: Christianity.com says that “masturbation is the result of sin”, not that masturbation is a sin itself. The guy I was talking about here was Onan. He kinda screwed in this whole debate honestly. For a potentially more “neutral” view on the topic, you can check wikipedia’s Religious Views on Masturbation.
37:44: GORE WARNING. Here’s the paper with surgical pictures of a reattached ear.
38:55: Here, go ahead, I know you wanted the article about reattaching someone’s genitals.
39:37: See show-note 37:44.
40:36: Couldn’t really find anything outright saying literati is a derogatory term, but considering what literati means I can definitely see it being used that way.
45:01: Fun fact, The Power and the Glory was apparently first published in the US under a different name.
46:20: For some reason the only video I could find of the ending to Bourne Identity included the entire credits. Also, check out our Bourne episode over on Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast, our movie trilogy podcast.
47:41: This is probably an overgeneralization, but oh well. Here’s Graham Greene’s bibliography by the way. Also the book we were talking about here takes place around/during the Cristero War, but there is a long history of religious suppression in Mexico.
52:46: A lot of Bond references this week. I’m referencing No Time to Die here, and I won’t link this scene or even try to find it because it’s still in theatres when this goes out and that’d probably be piracy.
1:04:09: Check out our first episode on Doctor Who: Flux here.
1:06:01: Check out how Firefly did in the ratings here on Wikipedia.
1:06:11: I regretfully link you to Lexx on Inevitable.
1:08:12: Here, no worries, future Dylan here to link you the TV Tropes page.
1:13:15: Flatland is also based on a book from 1884. How prescient. (Editor’s note: what?)
1:17:56: Dylan neglected to put the link that Steven provided here, but I’m guessing he was referring to this Kingdom Hearts Chain of Memories commercial. The song is “Simple and Clean” by Utada Hikaru.
1:18:04: Check out the M4trix episode over on Delayed Replay.
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Yeah, just to confirm, I still think of the font when I read this title.
The font is actually spelled totally differently, you know. It’s spelled like Arial, whereas this episode actually is spelled like the name of the little mermaid, Ariel. Just wanted to make sure I put that information out into the world. It’s Ariel, written by Jose Molina and aired on November 15, 2002
Show-notes:1:38: No, I will not tell you who I know on Greenleaf.
2:06: Here’s a picture of Jose Molina. Not to be confused with the baseball player, of course.
13:19: I actually thought about linking Robin Hood here, but if you don’t know who or what Robin Hood is then… come on, you know?
15:50: A surprisingly small amount of people actually realize that Ocean’s Eleven is a remake of a movie from 1960. We also talked about the original O11 on Triple Play.
28:57: Interstingly, House actually began airing after Firefly. Not that we were saying this was a direct and explicit reference or anything.
38:52: Speaking of Doctor Who, Doctor Who is back with Doctor Who: Flux! Check out our coverage of Doctor Who: Flux on our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
40:42: Wikipedia has all the TV Parent’s Guide ratings documented pretty well.
44:52: THEY’REE HEEEEEEERRREEE
57:37: Hear more of our unpopular opinions on Ocean’s 11/12/13 on Triple Play episode.
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I almost ran out of gas getting to the gas station the other day.
So I’m pretty sure I have a 10 gallon tank and somehow the other day I put 10.2 gallons in my car. Either I somehow have a larger tank or I overfilled the car. Or, by some miracle, my car was literally running on fumes. Look there must be a simple explanation to this but for some reason I choose to believe the most fantastical. It’s Out of Gas, written by Tim Minear and aired on October 25, 2002
Show-notes:1:44: Literally via the the Oxford English Dictionary [Editor’s note: is this just a copypasted definition from the page for “literally?”] I. a. In a literal, exact, or actual sense; not figuratively, allegorically, etc. […] c. colloquial. Used to indicate that some (frequently conventional) metaphorical or hyperbolical expression is to be taken in the strongest admissible sense: ‘virtually, as good as’; (also) ‘completely, utterly, absolutely’.
2:06: Doctor Who: Flux Episode 1: The Halloween Apocalypse went out on October 31, 2021. Our episode on it will go out in November 7, 2021. Catch it on Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
3:56: 10 Hidden Details You Missed in The Episode Out of Gas. This has to be the worst article title of all time, by the way.
17:04: Believe it or not, both cosmetology and cosmology both originate (if you go far enough back) from the word kosmos. Thanks etymonline. [Editor’s note: Wait, why is this hard to believe?] 21:20: Gonna link the Magnum, PI wiki for all you under-30s out there. [Editor’s note: We’re under 30.] 22:26: Here’s a good article on being an accent chameleon.
33:10: Here’s the TV Tropes recap page for Out of Gas in case you really REALLY have nothing better to do.
59:27: I don’t remember what my order was either, but you can find out for me if you go and listen to our Fall Out episode of Inevitable.
1:04:30: Angel began airing in 1999, so before Firefly.
1:05:43: Never eat pears. Also I was mistaken, this was in Human Nature, not Blink.
1:11:12: NaNoWriMo 2021 has officially started. If you want to read my (Dylan’s) novel as I write it, I’m putting the full text online day by day over here.
1:12:29: The documentary is called What We Left Behind.
1:13:31: Apparently the Science Channel re-ran Firefly in 2011.
1:15:59: Victor Mair writes a little on the mutual intelligibility of Sinitic languages. Many of them are not mutually intelligible when spoken.
1:19:18: To quote my show-notes from last week: “There is a Hallmark Christmas Movie podcast, it’s called Deck the Hallmark.” Their exact description is as follows: “Join Bran, Panda, and Dan as they attempt to watch and review Hallmark movies. Just 3 dudes…watching made-for-tv movies. What could go wrong?”
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Apparently “Jaynestown” is frequently featured on “wtf is this in Firefly” lists. [Editor’s note: I assume that Dylan assumed that I would add more to this intro. Little did he know that I’m actually going to add nothing to it at all… wait, damn!]
It’s Jaynestown, written by Ben Edlund and aired on October 18, 2002
Show-notes:
2:30: Ben Edlund really did create the Tick, we didn’t make this part up.
3:55: Just gonna link Marita Grabiak’s imdb page, because that’s what I’m reading during this segment. And yes, Bill & Ted’s Bogus Journey is the second Bill and Ted movie.
5:00: It’s Four Weddings and a Funeral, and it’s actually a TV show now, in addition to originally being a movie.
6:51: FINE, here’s Christmas on Wheels for you.
7:07: There is a Hallmark Christmas Movie podcast, it’s called Deck the Hallmark.
18:25: Here’s an intro physics course talking about the strength of ceramics.
19:27: Wikipedia has a surprisingly complex and in depth discussion on the shuttle heat shields. Also, for more on The Daemons and other Doctor Who related stuff, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
3:55: I meant to say Ben Edlund here.
28:23: Here, follow along at home.
34:22: Animaniacs made fun of obsessive fans in this bit, the “Please Please Get a Life Foundation”
37:40: I actually can’t find anything saying the Okapi was thought to be extinct. It’s just endangered and restricted to specific habitats. Same with the gnu actually. Not sure why I thought that.
37:57: That episode of Delayed Replay covered the obviously super successful K9: Timequake movie. (We also didn’t actually look up the status of the Okapi in that episode. We just talked about it without actually looking up any information about it.)
1:03:28: I don’t know what to tell you if you don’t know what How the Grinch Stole Christmas is.\
1:13:16: Notto be confused with The Nutshack.
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Can you imagine if one of us just showed up to the podcast one day and got married for doing it?
Look so once upon a time I’m sitting there and wait a minute I realized I started a description almost exactly the same way already this season on Inevitable. Shoot, I’m losing my touch and my creativity. It’s Our Mrs. Reynolds, written by Joss Whedon and aired on October 4, 2002
Show-notes:
1:48: We will not be watching LAX for this podcast, because it does not qualify even in the most tenuous and broad definition of “Sci-fi.”
6:27: Colin Gordon is the other Number 2 who appears more than once on The Prisoner (1967), appearing in both A. B. C. and The General.
12:47: I’m just going to quote Kiyan’s previous show note, because why not: “The Kuleshov effect is “a mental phenomenon by which viewers derive more meaning from the interaction of two sequential shots than from a single shot in isolation.””
17:05: I actually can’t remember which episode of Star Cops is the one where I (Dylan) went on a rant about taking paper to the moon, so here’s a link to Star Cops Episode 1, as covered on Inevitable.
23:47: The quote is “Get in good trouble, necessary trouble”.
27:45: Interestingly China is actually the opposite, leaving food on your plate is considered a respectful way to show that you ate enough.
33:10: It’s More Likely Than You Think.
37:55: Should we bring these 90s carpets back? Probably not.
43:01: The KGB invented lipstick that shot bullets because… I don’t know why.
44:13: They made this gun knife thing.
44:55:
57:04: “Fridging” is a trope where a female character is unceremoniously killed off (or “stuffed in the fridge”).
1:08:24: Check out Delayed Replay, and especially the K9: Timequake episode of Delayed Replay.
1:11:10: The Suite Life of Zack and Cody was a television show, and I wish we would stop talking about this to be honest.
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Kiyan, as soon as we finish: Why the hell was this episode titled “Safe” anyway?
One day I’d like to be safe. Safe from all of this nonsense that we have to face in the world. Mostly the nonsense of the podcast. Every morning I wake up remembering that this is my life’s work, that this is what I’ll be remembered for when I’m gone. Sobering thoughts to wake up to. It’s Safe, written by Drew Z. Greenberg and aired on November 1, 2002
Show-notes:
0:52: Here, enjoy the wikipedia page for Private Practice.
2:11: Drake Bell went to jail for child endangerment charges.
12:44: If you too haven’t watched High School Musical, here’s everything you ever needed to know on High School Musical.
15:00: There’s an apple wiki page for the iPod shuffle, of course.
16:06: XKCD 1053 (damn that’s old) (Editor’s note: Yeah, XKCD is old as hell, which in [art explains why it’s so unfunny.)
19:24: Could’ve fooled me.
28:24: Patrick Jane is one of the coolest television characters. Etymonline says that Jane is a female name. The etymonline bio page is a pretty interesting read too.
29:08: Behold the extensive work of almost one single person bringing to you the etymology of the name Jane.
36:54: For (WAY) more on the guns of Firefly, check out the show’s IMFDB page.
41:23: The Prisoner (1967)
51:40: Here’s the article on “thou shalt not suffer a witch to live” I was talking about.
1:06:43: Here’s the paste article I talk about for a while.
1:08:20: Netflix still sends out DVDs, and dvd.com redirects to the brand new dvd.netflix.com.
1:09:05: The only citations I could find for there being a Chinese proverb about badly carved swans is, amazingly, Firefly. But I did find the first half of the proverb in a slightly different form, that is, “He painted a tiger, but it turned out a dog” although even that is unsourced. Make of this what you will.
1:12:52: Check out our movie trilogy podcast, Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast.
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The titles of these episodes are wack. Like who the hell says “shindig” anymore?
So I went to a party the other week right, and I was having a good time. Then all of a sudden I look over and out of the corner of my eye some lunatic just punches another guy in the face? What the heck was that? Anyway, I didn’t think too much more about it, I was only there for the free food anyway. It’s Shindig, written by Jane Espenson and aired on November 1, 2002
Show-notes:1:22: I guess Vern Gillum just vanished from the TV world.
2:51: Here’s a CNBC article talking about Nick Cage’s curious… money problems, let’s say.
3:41: Here’s Nicolas Cage on why Nicolas Cage will never see The Unbearable Weight of Massive Talent. “It’s just too much of a wacked-out trip,” says Cage.
4:51: Here’s imdb’s custom Firefly viewing order (bro) in case you’re interested.
5:25: It has actually been exactly 350 days between this episode going out and our episode on The Prisoner’s final episode Fall Out.
9:00: In hindsight I actually think Wikipedia reproduces Book’s intro exactly but does not include any of Mal’s.
16:07: Kerr Avon and Roj Blake are characters from Blake’s 7, a show we podcasted about on another podcast, our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
45:18: This wouldn’t happen with lightsabers. There’s no link in this show-note, I just hadn’t written one in a while and wanted to say something “witty.”
46:35: I’m gonna assume that Kiyan is referring to this movie from 1989: Snake Eater. (Yes. Here’s a trailer for it.)
49:01: I should’ve cut this accent but I didn’t, hope you appreciate.
53:10: Methanol will blind you, that shit is no joke.
55:57: Seaweeds, for example, are protists, not plants..
56:25: I realized people outside of the US might not know this reference, so here’s Chick-Fil-A themselves explaining it for you. (Editor’s note: Chick-Fil-A has a corporate blog, huh? Truly, every day we stray further from god’s light.)
59:09: Here’s For a Few Dollars More, and here’s A Room with a View, the book. Apparently it was also adapted into a movie which might be more apt for the medium we’re talking about here, but I digress.
1:01:35: I can’t believe I’m linking to Doctor Who on a Firefly podcast but here’s the TARDIS wiki article on The Impossible Astronaut.
1:03:12: Don’t worry, I’m here to tell you who the hell Cyril Shaps is, for all our American listeners. I’m starting to realize that this podcast is 50% references American’s won’t understand and 50% references Brits won’t understand.
1:07:14: Here’s the Karate Kid poster I was talking about.
Some other sources:
AV Club
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I’ve never been bushwhacked, but I have been whacked. Unfortunately. (Editor’s note: wack.)
Now I’m pretty sure being bushwhacked just means you get whacked while you’re in a bush. I was in the mafia for a day, I can guarantee this is correct. Whenever my underboss would come to me to tell me to bushwhack someone this is exactly what he told me. Promise. It’s Bushwhacked, written by Tim Minear and aired on September 27, 2002
Show-notes:2:22: Here’s the lexico definition of bushwhacked for all the budding etymologists in the audience. And here’s the Merriam Webster definition. And the Urban Dictionary definition I guess. Etymonline suggests a more sylvan origin to the word.
4:10: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
5:46: Serenity: 1 hour 26 minutes. The Train Job: 43 minutes. Bushwhacked: 45 minutes.
6:50: Fine, fine, here’s the Family Guy cool whip bit. 15 seconds of googling has informed me that Family Guy was the originator of the bit.
7:52: The future versions of Dylan and Kiyan dropped in on our Five Doctors episode of Trust Your Doctor.
9:24: Dylan is, surprisingly, not lying when he explains all these nonsense Spikeball rules.
14:33: I’m just gonna link bigfinish.com for you so you can follow along with this next bit.
20:04: Finding Serenity is less an academic article and more a 256 page book of critical essays, apparently.
21:22: Glenn Yeffeth is actually some publisher/writer/marketer guy.
37:37: In My Mind is a… sort of semi biographical look at Patrick McGoohan.
53:48: The Kuleshov effect is “a mental phenomenon by which viewers derive more meaning from the interaction of two sequential shots than from a single shot in isolation.”
57:40: Apparently the name for these people, at least in WWII, were the Japanese Holdouts.
1:05:40: Something something wagon train to the stars.
1:07:13: Here you go, go learn about Zeno’s paradoxes to keep your evening interesting.
1:10:04: Warning: blood.
1:11:13: Wow, believe it or not I actually found the Godzilla site in my history. It’s not plain white, and was actually updated post release with a review of the film. From what I can see it was last updated in 2004.
1:13:28: Look at the poster for The Sarah Connor Chronicles and tell me it’s not the most 2008 thing you’ve ever seen.
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Did you know Kiyan and I once wrote a whole outline for a story about a guy robbing a train?
This week we prove that watching Firefly was not a hoax of… weakly epic proportions. That’d actually be a terrible hoax, it’s a sci-fi show, why wouldn’t we watch it? Well good news is that by the time I’m writing this we’ve even recorded episode 3. Wow! It’s The Train Job, written by Joss Whedon and Tim Minear and aired on September 20, 2002
Show-notes:1:37: We actually watched Blake’s 7 on our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
4:19: Here’s that AV Club review of The Train Job that I’m referencing in this next statement.
7:52: The Raab Collection has an interesting breakdown on the early history of the phrase “the south will rise again”.
12:28: Serenity (the movie) came out in 2005, but we shouldn’t confuse it with this other movie that came out in 2019… also named Serenity.
16:17: Here’s Greg Edmondson’s Wikipedia page to see if you too can randomly discover he composed something you like.
18:22: Chinese is a really interesting and fascinating language with dozens of dialects and a heavy dose of “what even makes a dialect?” sprinkled on top. I can’t even approach the complexity of the topic so I’ll let Asia Society do it for me.
20:18: “RP” in this context means ~~roleplay~~ “received pronunciation”.
23:40: Check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
25:02: Frost my tips and log me in.
33:33: Yeah I’m not gonna link this. (Here you go: Abu Ghraib torture and prisoner abuse on wikipedia. Warning: graphic images)
35:17: We’ve actually watched the original 60s Ocean’s Eleven on Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast, our movie trilogy podcast.
39:32: Wow, Dylan sounds really disappointed that they didn’t kill him here.
43:43: Black lung is also known as coalworker’s pneumoconiosis. Not for the faint of heart. Or lungs.
48:42: Here’s an article outlining The Crow and the death of Brandon Lee therein.
53:35: You know what, here’s Lund on the Firefly wiki.
57:58: This shooting script is unsourced, take it as you will. (Editor’s note: The fact that this is from “myths.com” doesn’t lend do any favors for its credibility. Lmao)
1:13:29: The return of the stunned silence, our third host.
1:14:54: The Great Train Robbery was also, by chance, Michael Crichton’s second directorial effort. Neat.
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Is Joss Whedon an auteur?
Those are the fateful lines that begin our journey into this cult favourite television show. Some might even say beloved. Will we agree with this premise? Only time will tell for sure, and at this moment we’ve only watched single damn episode of the show so how the hell should I know? It’s Firefly episode 1: Serenity, not to be confused with the later concluding movie, also weirdly named Serenity.
Show-notes:
1:10: I had forgotten we watched Lexx at all, to be quite honest with you dear fan. But if you wanted to hear our “journey” into Lexx, check out the beginning of our descent into the depravity that is that series.
5:15: Browncoats
6:30: Linking a Quora post to explain why Firefly ended so quickly is probably a bad idea, but it was this or ScreenRant and you already know all our thoughts on that.
9:51: Here’s Joss Whedon’s Wonder Woman script for all of you who were desperate to read it I guess. Special shout out to “To say she is beautiful is to almost miss the point. […] Her body is curvaceous, but taut as a drawn bow.” For being the most uncomfortable few lines of text I’ve read today.
10:53: The Nevers got extremely average reviews.
18:50: The “all I know is I must kill” meme actually is pretty funny with the image to go along with it.
22:45: The Bebop Beat is a Cowboy Bebop podcast that seems pretty new. I’ve never listened to it, but could be worth checking out.
24:30: And Spanish.
25:37: We talk a lot about Marinus in our Keys of Marinus revisted episode of Trust Your Doctor.
33:51: Kiyan elaborates on this absolutely correct opinion in our Fifty Shades episode of Triple Play.
54:15: Pacific Rim is a movie by Guillermo del Toro that’s apparently good but I’ve never seen it so I wouldn’t know. (Yeah, same here -Kiyan, 2021)
56:30: Kiyan elaborates on this absolutely correct opinion in our Alien: Resurrection episode of Triple Play.
1:00:29: Here’s an article on how Joss Whedon allegedly took joy in making female writers uncomfortable during writer’s room meetings.
1:03:57: Soylent Green is People!
1:21:50: Magnificent Seven is a definite and unabashed American remake of Seven Samurai.
1:25:20: Internet Movie Firearms Database is a surprisingly robust site.
1:26:53: Star Cops was the first show we watched for this podcast. Good times.
1:32:00: Just cause I’m curious, Star Wars: Forces of Destiny is a series of short animated episodes that were released over 2017 and 2018.
1:39:15: The original Twilight Zone started in 1959. The 1985 Twilight Zone is the second series.
1:40:50:* Who the hell is Kwanseer? And what is his role in the Aladdin TV series? Stay tuned for more information.
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So. Shall we start?
We’ve never really done one of these intro episodes before, but it was about time we actually announced the show we were going to watch… before we actually watch it. Well. At least before we release episodes on it. We’re watching Firefly! Yay! Or boo, I dunno, take your pick. Did you know Apple doesn’t like it when you try to set an episode number to 0? Who’d’ve thunk it.
Show-notes:
You need show-notes for this?
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I’m giga-over this show at this point.
Speaking of over it, I really procrastinated on writing this little summary. Honestly even now I don’t know what I should say. So I’m kind of saying this, I guess. Not much more to say on the matter really, Lexx S1 is done and so are we. It’s Gigashadow, written by Paul Donovan, Jeffery Hirschfield and Lex Gigeroff and released on September 11, 1997.
Show-notes:
3:30: We watched Troll 2 for one of our podcasts, Triple Play.
6:04: If there’s one thing I’ve learned watching Lexx, it’s that everything changes.
9:26: S’mores are a thing that are typically cooked over a campfire and are deliciously unhealthy and are probably part of the reason so many people have diabetes.
14:54: If you’re interested in the Liberator, that means you’re probably also just as or vastly more interested in the show it’s from, Blake’s 7, which we did a podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, on.
35:45: I was thinking of these worms that leech off of crickets and mayflies.
40:55: Pinocchio 3000 actually looks bonkers.
42:13: We actually watched the 2d animated special “Kung Fu Panda: Secret of the Furious Five” over on Triple Play, and not Kung Fu Panda: Legends of Awesomeness.
43:13: We also watched the Bourne Identity tv movie on Triple Play.
1:07:16: Go and check out Trust Your Doctor while you wait for more Inevitable.
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I have an eating pattern, it’s called eat at 9pm and never again.
So this morning I edited the podcast while eating cereal. So I guess you could say I had an eating pattern while editing eating pattern. Isn’t that wild how that kind of stuff works? I think it’s pretty cool but you never know, maybe the audience disagrees like they always seem to. It’s Eating Pattern, written by Paul Donovan, Jeffery Hirschfield and Lex Gigeroff and released on September 4, 1997.
Show-notes:
2:20: I’m not gonna put a link to that in the show notes. Lol.
4:47: Here’s that transcript of Eating Pattern, for the morbidly curious.
5:29: My personal favorite Doctor Who transcript site is Chakoteya.
5:52: Here’s the Lexxplorations site, which I’m going to leave here and then back away slowly.
7:39: Meatloaf, not to be confused with Meat Loaf.
11:49: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
13:24: I’m going to bring Scorpio and the Liberator to you courtesy of the Blake’s 7 wiki.
29:41: Jackass: The Movie came out in 2002, coming right on the heels of the TV show, which aired from 2000 to 2002.
40:57: Kiyan is probably thinking about Sting being in Dune, rather than Rutger Hauer.
42:22: Zwölf apparently means “twelve” in German. Also einsatz can mean “mission” according to Wiktionary.
49:12: Google Translate tells me it’s Hindi. Here’s what the name actually was: विस्मयादिबोधक चिह्न.
52:17: Here’s the Horizon Blake’s 7 forum.
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This week Kiyan drops millions of Lexx puns and I hate it.
While watching this all I could think of was that I would love it if a supernova just swallowed me whole. Like if I could just be absolved of my responsibility of watching this movie for this podcast. And the best way to do that is to just be absorbed by a black hole. It’s Super Nova, written by Pual Donovon, Jeffery Hirschfield and Lex Gigeroff and released on April 25, 1997.
Show-notes:
7:50: For more on the Borad and other Doctor Who characters, check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
13:29: Far be it from me to defend Lexx, but apparently lava can actually get hot enough to look white.
16:39: Listen to Triple Play when it comes back to hear Kiyan defend his opinion on Fifty Shades of Grey. *17:39: Brunis
20:48: The Mandalorian uses a digital wall powered by the Unreal Engine to generate realistic landscapes without a greenscreen or chroma key.
27:10: It’s actually a little disputed it Socrates actually said “the only true wisdom is knowing that I know nothing”, since it only appears in Plato’s account of his works, and there is not evidence he himself said it and that Plato didn’t just randomly add it.
30:04: I did not bleep them out in post.
35:28: Flat Stanley is actually an entire series, so go knock yourself out.
53:08: Yep, I was right about who Ilene was here.
59:25: If you’d like the try pronouncing it at home, it’s’ pronounced ‘Folkjokeopus‘. Also, here’s McGoohan’s Blues.
1:03:45: The concept of the selfie has long predated the word. Because they were self-portraits.
1:11:29: We still have a blog. Haven’t updated it in months now though lol.
1:11:52: Check out this sick video of Peter Parker being a jerk.
1:13:31: Check out our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
1:15:08: I don’t know how accurate it is, but forebears.io has a list of the most common names in the world.
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It’s I Worship His Shadow, written by Pual Donovon, Jeffery Hirschfield and Lex Gigeroff and released on April 18, 1997.
Show-notes:
1:51: Check out our other podcasts, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast and Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
1:56: The Lexx Wiki is superb, for example here’s the page on I Worship His Shadow.
6:27: Believe it or not I actually found an example of exactly what we were talking about at this moment.
8:43: @BobRushy on twitter is who I was talking about here.
9:35: Here’s a webpage that collates all of the behind the scenes videos.
11:59: Gareth Roberts wrote a variety of Doctor Who material, but the most famous is probably The Unicorn and the Wasp and The Lodger.
15:08: What would you do if you collected all the dragon balls?
17:35: There’s apparently a capsule hotel really close to where I live. In case you don’t know what those are here’s Wikipedia to the rescue to tell you what a capsule hotel is as always.
20:57: Wow, Kiyan was right, it really does look like a low budget version of the Final Fantasy 10 intro.
21:30: Just watch the trailer for Birdemic, that’s all you need to.
22:01: This is what the monsters in A Quiet Place looked like. (Lol at the filename for this being “Dontmakeasound.webp”)
25:22: The episode of Blake’s 7 is aptly titled Dawn of the Gods, and you can listen to what we thought of Dawn of the Gods on our episode covering it.
35:18: Here’s Black Manta for all you Lexx fans who want to check if I’m speaking the tru tru.
37:25: John McAfee is an absolute lunatic and I highly recommend you stay away from him if you ever meet him. I’m pretty sure this is the long article Kiyan is referring to. (It was actually this John McAfee article from wired.)
38:39: Wikipedia has a surprisingly detailed page on the theory of quantum immortality and quantum suicide.
42:15: The thorax is the powerhouse of the insect.
54:31: Speaking of people liking this earnestly, here’s Den of Geek trying to decipher why Lexx is such a cult classic now.
56:55: The Lexx Timeline is impossible to navigate.
57:49: I’m going to just leave this link to Lexxplorations here for you.
1:01:00: Sybil is from 1974 and is a television film, so it’s likely this is the same Sybil.
1:02:19: ß
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Checkwait a minute, I almost made the same joke as the last time we did a Checkmate.
We’ve come to the end of another show and rather unceremoniously bid it farewell for another. Sorry The Prisoner 2009, we hardly knew ye. How could we? You only had 6 episodes, that was like a month and a half of podcasting at best! It’s a good thing we didn’t make a Prisoner only podcast otherwise we would have really been done now. It’s Checkmate, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 17, 2009.
Show-notes:
1:31: Way back here in episode 1 of this season.
6:30: I don’t remember this dream at all, in fact this is the first I’m hearing of it.
17:53: To “lie in state” is to have your body displayed in a state building so that all citizens may come and see it before you get buried.
18:09: This scene from Spider-Man 3 might be one of the greatest in the history of cinema.
26:50: I Know There’s an Answer is a Beach Boys song, not to be confused with the similarly titled I Know It’s Today from Shrek: The Musical.
28:30: Here’s the opening to The Prisoner in case you wanted to get it stuck in your head agian.
31:07: And, just for you dear listener, here’s Ubik again for you just in case you forgot.
32:22: For even more fun, check out the page on Ubik on pkd.fandom.com
36:33: The best picture of the green dome is right here, on Pinterest of all places.
44:30: We’re still doing the whole blog thing on our blog. We just don’t post every week anymore. (That only lasted like 3 months lol.)
45:25: Keith was on our episode covering “A. B. and C.” in the original Prisoner.
49:00: We talk a lot about what we would do if we were in charge of Doctor Who on our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
51:48: Trump’s approval rating never exceeded 49% in the four years he was in office.
Some other blogs that talk about The Prisoner (2009) – Checkmate:
Den of Geek
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Schizoid is such a funny word.
Schizoid is a really fun word too actually. You know it would be fun if I had a schizoid, they could edit the podcast and do all the podcast stuff and I could just sleep instead. Not like I’m forgoing sleep to get these podcasts done, no siree, I’m completely healthy. I promise, I’m getting a full 8 hours every night. It’s Schizoid, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 17, 2009.
Show-notes:
0:40: None of these bits made it into the final episode because I recorded them before starting the episode.
11:36: The study I am referring to was published in Nature Neuroscience, March 2015: “Retrieval induced adaptive forgetting of competing memories via cortical pattern suppresion”. If you do not have access to Nature Neuroscience, this Bang! Article sums up the core result, i.e. that trying to remember things makes it easier to forget them.
13:00: Here’s our episode on the original Prisoner’s Schizoid Man if you want to listen to that for some reason.
35:37: As far as I’m concerned Stanford is a trustworthy source and they tell me that you can’t dream up a new face. You just generally reuse ones you’ve seen elsewhere before.
41:20: Philip K. Dick basically only ever wrote weird things about how reality is a lie and the only truth in the world is the truth you can’t understand, or something like that. I dunno man I’m a physicist not an englishicist.
41:26: Ubik is a book whose actual physical existence distorts space-time. This is not a joke, please, the copy on my shelf is annihilating my entire bedroom, send physicists.
44:24: We talked about Patrick McGoohan’s misogyny at length during our original run of The Prisoner, which you can find in the Inevitable category on our site.
52:10: Some of the blogs I’m referencing are linked down below.
53:47: You can listen to our coverage of Children of the Stones on Season 2 of Inevitable and you can listen to our coverage of Star Cops on Season 1 of Inevitable.
54:48: Lexx is apparently really weird.
1:00:36: Our coverage and one and a half hour long head scratch over Fall Out.
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Oh my darling, oh my darling, oh my darling…
… Number 6. Number 6 was lost forever, oh my darling number 6. That’s how it goes right? That’s the version I remember being taught in school by 334, he was the best teacher we ever had. Some say that 571 was better, but I disagree, 334 is always going to be my favourite. It’s Darling, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 16, 2009.
Show-notes:
3:11: You can join us at the beginning of our Children of the Stones journey here if you haven’t listened to it.
8:25: I was unable to find a picture of the prisoner DVD menu, but this is the key art Kiyan referred to for the first disk menu, and this is the shrouded in darkness image I referred to for disk 2.
23:05: Ebay has forums and the forums are rife with discussions on spending too much money on weird things on Ebay.
29:47: Warning: Both of the following links are potentially graphic. But pigs do in fact know that they’re being led to slaughter, however they’re not the only animal, as cows seem to understand as well.
35:46: Jiggery-Pokery
36:20: Scientific-American has an interesting article advancing the theory that humans have evolved a chemical and biological process that detects and prevents sex with close kin. For those who are averse to Scientific America, the name of the mechanism is the Westermarck Effect.
45:41: I had the date utterly wrong, the infamous “family eats oranges with peel and all” Reddit Post was made on February 5, 2021.
54:01: The episode I was talking about here was Many Happy Returns, which we covered with Sgt. Draino.
1:04:41: Here’s a picture of a trashcan with a step. You’re welcome.
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Anvils are great but without hammers what would you even use them for?
You ever realize how close “Anvil” is to “Arrival”? I only noticed now because I almost misspelled Anvil like three times while writing this description. In fact this sentence was the fourth, can you believe it? I can’t. But at least I know how to spell now. It’s Anvil, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 16, 2009.
Show-notes:
3:11: The iconic shot of Number 2 looking at the phone in question.4:35: Interestingly if you google “Harry and Rupert Gregson-Williams” the first result is Rupert Gregson-Williams. At least it was for me anyway. Thanks Google.
6:38: This is the best version of the Prisoner 2009 opening sequence, so you can hear the title theme for yourself.
16:00: Have this article debating whether school uniforms are good or bad just because I thought it would be funny to put in this show-note.
16:35: I looked up the Chimes of Big Ben transcript here. I guess the line is “What has been created is an international community, a blueprint for world order.”
19:35: Honestly don’t know what happened here, can’t tell if Kiyan actually doubled his voice or if the recording skipped. Could be both.
20:45: Young man, there’s no need to feel down. Even though I know the world is falling apart you can pick yourself off the ground. Wait hang on that’s not right.
23:47: In My Mind… In MY MIND… you’re smart.
25:20: As promised, here’s the link to that behind the scenes video. Never say your old pal Dylan didn’t do anything for you.
40:59: Here are the lyrics to Heroes and Villains for you to analyze along with at home! Here’s the livejournal post on the whole Beach Boys connection again.
43:15: Nick Kent writes about Brian Wilson’s attempts to replicate auditory hallucinations in his book: The Dark Stuff: Selected Writings on Rock Music.
44:07: Pop Apostle has a picture of Pet Sounds on Michael’s table in his New York apartment.
47:51: According to Wikipedia, the length of Heroes and Villains is 4:53 on Brian Wilson Presents Smile and 3:37 on Smiley Smile. I was unable to verify which version was used in this episode.
59:48: Snopes pretty vehemently denies that Lucy in the Sky With Diamonds is about LSD and they ahve some powerful sources so I guess I’m inclined to believe them.
1:04:20: I will not be pushed, filed, stamped, indexed, briefed, debriefed or numbered.
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I often seek inner peace, or to put it another way, harmony.
These one word titles are giving me wild “Alfred Hitchcock” vibes. If you didn’t know, he was quite fond of naming his movies after one word titles. For example, Psycho or Vertigo is probably his most famous, but there’s also Deception, Suspicion, Notorious, Rebecca, Marnie, Rope, Sabotage, Saboteur (different movies, I know), Spellbound, Topaz and probably more I’m forgetting. Topaz is the most fun name but the most boring movie. Top tips with Dylan. Anyway, it’s Harmony, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 15, 2009.
Show-notes:
1:39: I actually couldn’t find the exact airdates for the ITV broadcast, but apparently it was in spring of 2010. This broadcast restored the 6-episode format whereas the original AMC broadcast actually affixed two episodes together into one big thing with one intro and outro over three days.
2:12: Here’s the livejournal post we talk about extensively throughout this episode. Jonathan Blum wrote The Prisoner novel The Prisoner’s Dilemma.
11:03: What is dreampunk? I dunno, but maybe this site can shine some light on the matter.
11:53: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast for more on the origin of steampunk.
14:45: Palantir (not to be confused with Palantir) is an all seeing orb that was used for evil literally every time we see it in Lord of the Rings even though it’s “not necessarily evil itself.”
15:50: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast, for more about Doctor Who.
18:10: If you google “triple x the movie” you’ll find exactly what we’re actually talking about. If you’re too lazy to do that you could also listen to this Triple Play episode instead.
21:23: Here’s what the poster of In My Mind (the Prisoner documentary) looks like. And hey, would you look at that – here’s our episode on it.
25:05: Nothing in his pocket but knives and lint.
27:41: Never wanted to ride on a bus more than I want to ride on the Malarkey Bus.
29:01: The image of 6 kneeling before the anchor.
41:43: We talk more about the history of Smile in the next episode. Apparently Brian Wilson did fill his dining room with sand during the making of the album.
43:05: The Jefferson Airship saga is well documented, but I think Kiyan is right. A lot more bands should change their name when they evolve and upgrade. To reduce confusion of course.
43:52: Apparently Nine Inch Nails is al/industrial rock.
58:25: The butterfly story/allegory is apparently from ancient Taoist philosophy.
59:30: Awake is obscure enough that I’m just going to drop the Awake wikipedia page here rather than anything else.
Here are some other random sites/sources consulted during this episode:
The Daily Pop – Harmony
Den of Geek – Harmony
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The Prisoner Returns!
This is probably the most divisive show that we’ve done for Inevitable. Our fans have given us various opinions, from bad to great to love to dishonor on the Prisoner’s family. And yet here we are, forging forth and doing it anyway. Because 1) we want to and 2) it’s best to make your own opinions. It’s Arrival, written by Bill Gallagher and released on November 15, 2009.
Show-notes:
1:25: You can find our new blog here. We planned on updating once a week at first, but we realized we couldn’t keep that up with how busy we are lol. We have two Prisoner posts up so far. The first is an introduction to the 1980 Prisoner video game and the second is a playthrough of it.
8:00: Our previous season on The Prisoner (1967) starts with Episode 1 – Arrival as well.
8:10: You can find the Could it Have Been Worse? article on the Unmutual Prisoner Archive.
12:26: If you want to listen to us talk way too much about Doctor Who for some reason, check out our Doctor Who podcast Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast. Also the name of the the city where this series was filmed is Swakopmund.
15:00: Buy your own copy of the Prisoner miniseries.
18:02: Pop Apostle’s page on this episode.
19:15: Here’s an example page from the AMC blog index, as well as one of the production notes that I referenced.
44:10: Here is the Wikipedia page for On Exactitude in Science as well as an online copy of the story in both its original Spanish and an English translation. Also, it was Baudrillard who touched on this story.
51:26: Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling
1:10: Here’s our episode on A, B, and C with Keith as a guest in our first season on The Prisoner. We talk about technology that was sci-fi in the 60s but real now.
1:05:30: If you want to hear us talk about an actual PJ Hammond episode, check out our episodes on Sapphire and Steel, like this one, the first episode.
1:13:03: And if you want to listen to us talk about movie trilogies for whatever reason, check out Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast, our movie trilogy podcast.
1:25:48: If you want to listen to a great Doctor Who podcast that covers Classic Who episodes in “excruciating detail” (their words, not mine), check out Krynoid Podcast.
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I have no mind left after this show.
So we’ve finally actually finished yet another show. No more Prisoner. I swear. Absolutely none. We will do no more Prisoner ever. The next season of Inevitable, as usual, will have absolutely nothing to do with this season. You know how it goes right? It’s In My Mind, written by Chris Rodley and released on October 30, 2017.
Show-notes
11:20: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast on which we Pronounced Stephen Greif’s Name Wrong for About One Year.
13:16: Midnight Only’s write-up on Once Upon a Time includes Alain Carrazé and Hélène Oswald’s brief portrait of the infamous press conference .
19:29: The movie shot at the Huntley Hotel was Point Blank.
27:33: “That guy” = Ian L. Rakoff
29:12: Apparently the meme was real? According to CNN anyway.
51:49: Arrival, Chimes of Big Ben, Free for All, It’s Your Funeral, Checkmate, Many Happy Returns, Schizoid, ABC, The General, Dance, Hammer, Do not Forsake, Living in Harmony, Girl Who was Death, Change of Mind, Once Upon a Time, Fall Out
1:03:45: Reverse deja vu = jamais vu
1:09:36: The audio takes a hit here cause I didn’t realize Audacity wasn’t using the mic. Sorry.
1:16:30: Check out our other podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
1:19:50: Check out the Tin Dog Podcast and Round the Archives.
1:28:30: We do a movie trilogy podcast called Triple Play, which we’ll be doing after this season of Inevitable is done, i.e. now.
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Help, I’ve fallen out and I can’t get up!
And so we come to the end of yet another show on Inevitable. We’re really just motoring through them now, and honestly with the quarantine and everything it works out pretty well given the lack of “going out” we’re all doing. And so with that I present to you definitely the last episode of this season absolutely. It’s Fall Out, written by Patrick McGoohan and aired on February 1, 1968.
Show-notes:
16:30: Here’s one person’s interpretation of Play-doh’s cave as it pertains to education.
47:52: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast
53:47: Here’s the Bonnie and Clyde scene where they get shot to smithereens.
55:21: Here’s the syringe scene. And yes, it was from Saw 2. Watch at your own risk.
1:04:08: Here’s a definition of heterotopia that touches on stuff The Prisoner talks about.
1:05:55: No pun intended.
1:10:21: It is Paul.
1:12:43: Mise en abyme
1:14:06: And if you want to hear us talk about the Matrix and other movie trilogies, check out our movie trilogy podcast Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast. Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive
Anorak Zone
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Once Upon a Time in the Village…
… there lived a young boy named Patrick. Now Patrick was an adventurous young lad, who got into loads of trouble. It was pretty soon he started to grow up and discover what all teenage boys do: girls. Patrick was special though because he also discovered something else around the same time: misogyny. It’s Once Upon a Time, written by Patrick McGoohan and aired on January 25, 1968.
Show-note
21:48: Leo McKern is the best around. Nothing’s gonna ever keep him down.
40:22: The old cartoon we were talking about here was “Mickey’s Trailer”
41:42: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast, for all your Doctor Who and Torchwood needs.
47:36: Wiktionary says sitcom comes from situation comedy, which is basically exactly what we describe it as being here.
57:44: If you like movies, why not check out our movie trilogy podcast Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast? It desperately needs the listeners, and we’ve covered such masterpieces as Troll 2 and The Neverending Story 3.
1:00:05: Threw it on the ground.
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Lots of titles in The Prisoner seem to refer to death…
You ever heard that song about how God is a girl? Well maybe this is kind of like that, and The Prisoner is saying that Death is actually a girl too. I’m not sure about the veracity of that statement, of course, so when I’m dying I’ll report back with my findings about who or what even the grim reaper is. I’ll be sure to send them your best regards too. It’s The Girl Who Was Death, written by Terence Feely and aired on January 18, 1968.
Show-notes: 13:22: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast if you want to listen to us talk about Doctor Who and Torchwood for way too long.
16:25: Baseball and cricket evolved from rounders, which I’ve never heard of but is apparently still played today.
23:41: Sideburns come from United States general Ambrose Burnside. Make sure to prepare yourself mentally before clicking this link and seeing this guy’s sideburns. You might need it.
28:30Alright so fine James Bond was the one who stuck the broom handle in and not the other way around, but like whatever man.
35:48 Incidents at Disneyland California.
36:27: Ghost Rider is a sketch-ass rollercoaster at Knott’s Berry Farm, an amusement park in Southern California.
39:20: Yeah, I have no idea what this stuff was called. I remember it being like canvas that you do something to to make it moldable or something like that. If anyone knows, hit us up and tell us.
43:51: Hey, we discussed James Wan and Leigh Whannel once.
50:20: I could barely find anything on sea-washed lighthouses, the ones that jut up out of the water, but this wave washed lighthouses page implies that they’re built on rocks or reefs that are only accessible at low tide.
53:21: This Napoleon family tree makes me dizzy.
1:06:24: Anchoring bias is when you rely heavily on a single piece of information, usually the first one you hear on a given topic.
1:20:30: If you want to listen to us do what we’re doing here but with Blake’s 7, check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, our Blake’s 7 podcast. Sources and other junk:
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Midnight Only
The View From the Junkyard
The Unmutual Prisoner Article Archive (here’s an interview with bowler John Drake)
Anorak Zone
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I prefer living in disharmony.
The old west is actually a pretty weird place to live if you think about it. Moreso than a lot of times in human history, you could just die at any time. Slice your face shaving? Sepsis. Get shot in the foot? Bleed out. Look at the guy in the saloon the wrong way? Death. Go to the brothel? STD. And your reward for putting up with all of this? Do you get to live in a nice hotel resort? No. You get a whole ton of dirt. Dirt and dust. It’s Living in Harmony, written by David Tomblin and aired on December 29, 1967.
Show-notes:
8:45: According to Wikipedia, Arrival was first broadcast in the U.S. on CBS on Saturday, June 1, 1968.
31:35: If you want to listen to us do what we’re doing here but with shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast. Sources and other junk:
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I wonder what this song this episode is named after really sounds like.
Today in long as heck names that are a little bit meaningless: a name we didn’t actually come up with. I mean, let’s be fair we’ve definitely come up with some long and inconsequential or confusing names. But for once in our lifetimes, the long and useless name was not invented by Decorative Vegetable, it was invented by McGoohan McGoohan. It’s Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling, written by Vincent Tillsley and aired on December 22, 1967.
Show-notes:
4:31: If you want to listen to us do what we do here but with shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood, check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
11:37: The “Do Not Forsake Me Oh My Darling” band. LIVE. Ok not really. It’s just some of their music videos. Close enough.
46:07: I couldn’t find the scene by itself anywhere. And I decided not to break copyright laws lol.
57:57: We also do a movie trilogy podcast called Triple Play. Check it out cause it desperately needs the listeners.
Sources and other junk:
Pop Apostle
Midnight Only
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Anorak Zone
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As the title says, this week we have a Change of Mind in how good The Prisoner is.
I kind of wish we gave titles to these episodes because this one would have definitely been “Misogynist Moment of the Week.” Everyone talks about separating the art from the artist but what do you do when the art IS the artist? What do you do when the misogyny of Patrick McGoohan is also the misogyny of #6? This seems like a philosophical question of the kind of complexity that exceeds the purview of this podcast. It’s A Change of Mind, written by Roger Parkes and aired on December 15, 1967.
Show-notes: 11:37: “Where’s Waldo?” is “Where’s Wally?” everywhere outside of North America.
28:55: Here’s the transorbital lobotomy from Bioshock Infinite.
40:05: Apparently the Lord Kitchener poster in Britain came before the U.S.’ Uncle Same poster.
52:30: If you want to listen to us talk about shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast. Sources and other junk:
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It’s like that movie I never watched, Death at a Funeral.
I was reading the last sentence of this description and I’m pretty sure my brain shorted out. Mainly because it features the same word twice in a row. Can you guess what word it’s going to be before you get there? Will your brain even process it as two different words or do you think you’ll just see it as a single word, realize you didn’t catch the double word,a nd go back to reread it. I guess you’ll find out shortly. It’s It’s Your Funeral, written by Michael Cramoy and aired on December 8, 1967.
Show-notes:
32:05: James Mitose developed a martial art called kosho shorei-ryu kenpo.
56:42: If you want to listen to us talk about Doctor Who for hours on end, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast. Sources and other junk:
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This week on the Prisoner: Number 6 tries his hand at Blacksmithing.
My dad once actually had a penchant to want to get into blacksmithing. He had been watching lots of tv shows about it and thought he might want to try his hand at it. Sadly the HOA here wasn’t about to let my dad install a furnace in his garage. They were probably fine with everything else, but fire is a no go you know? It’s Hammer into Anvil, written by Roger Woddis and aired on December 1, 1967.
Show-notes:
42:47: If you want to listen to us do what we’re doing here but with Doctor Who-universe shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
45:05: Or if Blake’s 7 is more your speed, check out our completed Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast. Sources and other junk:
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Midnight Only
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Queen to King negative 6, check-bait.
I actually had a dream about chess last night. And by last night, I mean last night before I edited this, not last night before I recorded this. And that’s pretty weird actually because I had genuinely forgotten that I was going to be editing Checkmate today. I kind of really want to get back into playing chess but I just don’t have the time to play classical, nor the skill to play blitz. It’s Checkmate, written by Gerald Kelsey and aired on November 24, 1967.
Show-notes:
8:12: It’s right before Dance of the Dead according to production order.
22:05: If you want to listen to us do what we’re doing here but with Blake’s 7 instead of The Prisoner, check out our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
26:51: Or if you want to hear some completely different people talking about The Prisoner, check out Tally Ho. Also, Steven Schapansky and Erika Ensign’s Prisoner podcast can be found here.
28:19: If you want to listen to us talk about shows like Doctor Who and Torchwood, check out our award winning and world famous Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
28:19: If only I were less of a wanker.
57:17: Canter by Gerry Cinnamon Sources:
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Doot doot Mr. Skeltal.
So the intro for this week is something about wading knee deep, clothed, into the water. It’s something that’s bothered us for ages, but what’s funny is that somehow we totally forgot that we had used it as an intro for this week. Because for Checkmate we were all but 10 seconds away from saying it as the intro again, before one of us went “hang on, didn’t we use this before?” Somehow completely failing to recognize that we had used it literally the week before. Is this what the quarantine has done to our memory? It’s Dance of the Dead, written by Anthony Skene and aired on November 17, 1967.
Show-notes:
4:00: Here’s the “transparent attempt to promote a writing career” that included this little tidbit. Also here’s The Devil and Tom Walker in full.
5:07: If you want to listen to us do what we’re doing here except with Doctor Who and not The Prisoner, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
23:30: Here’s the podcast episode.
24:36: Here’s the other podcast episode.
1:14:02: Decorative Vegetable regretfully presents (for the third or fourth time): The Big Bang Theory without the laugh track. Sources:
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I don’t have very many happy returns right now.
So while I was recording this I was dogsitting, and about halfway through the episode the dog came into the room to stare at me. And it just kind of sat there staring at me with these huge eyes as if I hadn’t taken him for a walk that morning. And then he started squeaking at me, as if he wanted to go again. Long story short he had to wait for us to finish. Sorry dude. It’s Many Happy Returns, written by Anthony Skene and aired on November 10, 1987.
Show-notes:
1:10: Check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
11:27: If you want to hear us talk about Avon and other great Blake’s 7 characters, check out our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
18:10: The Imperial March but every other beat is missing.
44:50: Here’s the story about the camera from the moon.
56:04: I don’t have time to find the exact theme we’re talking about here, but it’s on one of the three soundtracks for The Prisoner: File #1 File #2 File #3
1:25:00: “Antarctica isn’t attached to another continent either, Kiyan, explain that one.” – Dylan, 2020 Sources:
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Not to be confused with The Colonel.
Look I’m not one to go around willy nilly joining the military. But if a guy in my village was named The General, and everyone was taking orders from him, I’m not gonna say I wouldn’t be tempted to fall in line too. The General is a name with a powerful connotation that it sounds like it would be a huge mistake to cross. So I just wouldn’t. #6 did not heed this advice when I gave it to him. It’s The General, written by Joshua Adam and aired on November 3, 1987.
Show-notes:
0:58: If you want to listen to us talk about Doctor Who for some reason, check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
4:57: Here’s the full Prisoner behind the scenes documentary.
14:56: This page that eulogizes Patrick McGoohan has the quote about halfway down.
17:20: The thing we were talking about here was Moore’s Law.
41:11: new math, newuhuh math
45:48:Trust your teacher (Doctor Strange 46:26)
1:32:54: Apparently MI6 and MI5 agents don’t carry guns, but FBI agents do, and some but not all CIA agents do as well. I guess it depends on your country.
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This week on Inevitable Dylan is replaced by a copy.
Have I already made the replaced by a copy joke? I feel like I have because we’ve put out over 375 episodes of stuff and surely in one of those descriptions I’ve made that joke. Seriously how do I keep coming up with stuff to write? And how did I get to 375-something episodes before I got all meta talking about how many episodes it’s been? It’s The Schizoid Man, written by Terence Feely and aired on October 27, 1987.
Show-notes:
4:05: Here’s the full article about Albertus, the font they use in the Village.
33:16: If you want to listen to us talk about Blake’s 7 for some reason, check out Zenith, A Blake’s 7 Podcast, our Blake’s 7 podcast.
41:19: Here’s a bit more on Hopscotch by Julio Cortázar (cause I got some of this wrong).
52:39: The arcade game in Back to the Future was Wild Gunman.
1:01:20: This is the guy flipping off the cat meme thing.
1:01:56: You got the touch. You got the POWWWWEEEEEEEEEEEEER.
1:19:20: If you want to listen to us talk about Doctor Who/Torchwood for some reason, check out our Doctor Who (and now Torchwood) podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast. Sources and stuff:
TV Tropes (ugh)
Anorak Zone
Pop Apostle
Balladeer’s Blog
Midnight Only
Review Nebula
The Prisoner Episode by Episode
Big Gay Longcat’s Big Gay Longblog
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I’m running for president of this podcast.
Look I’m not saying democracy is a sham. Paddy Fitz, whoever that is, is saying that, and we just happened to watch his magnum opus trying to prove the point. And along the way maybe we agree and maybe we don’t, I guess time will tell. Frankly any voting system entirely based around buttons the townspeople wear with absolutely no election security is bound to fail. It’s Free for All, written by “Paddy” “Fitz” and aired on October 20, 1987.
Show-notes:
1:10: Wow, I actually found it. Turns out I conflated Mr. Bean waiting for his role with him waiting for the role of the woman he meets over the course of the movie. The memory cheats!
4:45: Behold. The glory of After Earth.
36:28: Here’s the newspaper article that was in this episode.
45:47: If you want to listen to us talk about Blake’s 7, check out our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast. And if you want to make your very own Blake’s 7 teleport bracelet, check out this ancient Blue Peter segment.
53:41: I couldn’t find the take
1:07:50: It’s called kishotenketsu.
1:15:13: It was zeugma and syllepsis. And just for the hell of it, here’s Score Tonight from Grease 2.
1:25:08: If you want to listen to us talk about Doctor Who, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
1:37:38: Here are the Prisoner soundtracks I found on Youtube: File 1 File 2 File 3
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It’s as easy as Do Re Mi.
The first real episode of the Prisoner where we get into the nitty gritty and realize that not all is as it seems in the village. This will probably be Number 6’s life for the next 14 weeks so it’s best we treat him nicely for a while before we really beat him up. You know what I’m saying? On a side note, this podcast episode was a dream constructed to extract information from Keith. Did we get what we want? Listen and find out. It’s A. B. and C., written by Anthony Skene and aired on October 13, 1987.
Show-notes:
10:28: Pretty sure this is the episode of Columbo.
41:03: This blog post features some photos of the original Rover.
42:57: Video of the guy making a plate out of milk. Brace your stomachs.
1:14:05: I remember what this was all about now, but I’m not going to drop a link here cause it’s related to my work. Not that it would really be difficult to figure who we are or anything…
1:17:15: If you want to listen to us talk about Blake’s 7 for some reason, check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, out Blake’s 7 podcast.
1:58:16: If you want to listen to us talk about Doctor Who (and now Torchwood), check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast. Blog posts and other stuff we talk about in this episode:
Midnight Only
Anorak Zone
Balladeer’s Blog
Review Nebula
The Salty Press
The Prisoner Episode by Episode
Big Gay Longcat’s Big Gay Longblog
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I’m pretty sure Kiyan has actually heard the chimes of Big Ben…
Is Big Ben the only famous clock tower in the world? This is a strange thought I just had, while sitting here, trying to come up with a description for this episode. Googling ‘famous clock towers’ gave me a lots of clock towers after “Big Ben” as the first result, and I recognize none of them. So I guess I just proved that Big Ben is the only famous clock tower. It’s The Chimes of Big Ben, written by Vincent Tilsley and aired on October 6, 1987.
Show-notes:
9:13: No. 6 uses a triquetrum in the alternate version of this episode.
9:35: This video compares the alternate intro/outro with the final versions and has footage of the triquetrum scene.
26:02: If you want to listen to us do what we do here but with Doctor Who/Torchwood instead of the Prisoner, check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
58:31: Sweden, not Switzerland
1:16:09: Patrick McGoohan actually was in The Magical World of Disney. Blogs and sources we mentioned in this episode:
Anorak Zone
Big Gay Longcat’s Big Gay Longblog
Balladeer’s Blog
Midnight Only
Review Nebula
The Salty Press
The Prisoner: Episode by Episode
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Who is number 1? We are number 1! music cue
Can you believe that we’ve made it to season 4? Speaking of which, like I said last week, Kiyan and I have been trapped in a personal podcasting hellscape. It just turns out that it’s a village populated by dozens of hundreds of more successful podcasts than ours. We don’t have names here, but I’ve been looking to see if I can find Sapphire and Steel anywhere in case they made it to this trap instead of the other one. It’s Arrival, written by George Markstein and David Tomblin and aired on September 29, 1987.
Show-notes:
4:31: We go these dates wrong. It should be 1960 and 1963.
6:41: Here’s the Reddit community for The Prisoner. And here’s the specific post we talked about.
8:55: The Prisoner: A Complete Production Guide came out in 2007. Here’s CST Online, the site TV analysis/studies site we were talking about, btw. (Blog posts by Pixley below.)
18:45: Here’s the episode order chart on Wikipedia.
19:44: If you want to listen to us talk about Blake’s 7 for some reason, check out our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
20:09: Six of One is still active apparently. Their site is super old looking, but still being updated.
26:27: Here’s where you can listen to ITC Entertained the World, and they have two more episodes than they did when we recorded this (for a grand total of 5)!
31:29: Here’s Ron Grainer’s arrangement of the Doctor Who theme. Imagine this being played over some of the early Doctor Who intros, lol.
45:59: If you want to listen to us talk about Doctor Who (and now Torchwood!), check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
1:01:54: Here’s Iron Maiden performing The Prisoner live. The Prisoner in Popular Culture page on Wikipedia is also worth a skim if you have a minute.
1:19:07: Behold: a chumbley in all its 1960s BBC budget alien glory. Andrew Pixley’s blog posts:
When is a book not a book?
Well out of order
Village people
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In terms of “where are they now?” retrospectives, at least the S&S one will be really easy.
Kiyan and I have been trapped in a recording studio for all eternity as of the end of this serial. You may be deceived into thinking that before today we had already been stuck in a recording studio all day, which wouldn’t be so far from the truth given the current pandemic. But now it’s official and can never be revoked, new content every week until we die. It’s Assignment 6, written by P.J. Hammond and aired between August 19th and 31st, 1982.
Show-notes:
9:33: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who Podcast. We’re not on Torchwood yet, but we will be in like 4 days (28 June 2020).
10:47: I guess we both forgot that we had pretty much this exact conversation about Silver and Lead a few episodes ago, lol.
17:13: Don’t listen to what I’m about to say, but do listen to our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
33:12: Of course there are Sapphire & Steel fanfics. Here they are, courtesy of fanfiction.net and AO3.
58:07: Here’s the full Counting Out Time documentary.
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I forgot my name again too. I can’t remember if I was Kiyan or Dylan.
We’ve trapped ourselves in an old-timey estate house in order to experience this episode to its fullest. We’re actually not sure who else is locked in here with us, I didn’t check to see if the property was vacated before we decided to record in here. I can hear a weird stone statue mouthing off in the basement so that’s pretty weird. It’s Assignment 5, written by Don Houghton and Anthony Read and aired between August 11th and 26th, 1981.
Show-notes:
1:27: Check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, if you want to listen to us talk about Doctor Who.
30:56: Ok, so apparently ley lines are a way bigger irl deal than I thought they were. I found a few super legit sites like this one and this one that discuss birds and other animals moving and migrating across ley lines. Pretty interesting reads if nothing else.
33:07: I did a little googling about this and didn’t really find anything on it, but I did find this article about what happens when bacteria get viruses. So that’s pretty interesting.
48:12: Yes, apparently bronze does have copper in it.
1:08:26: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, our Blake’s 7 Podcast. Also, the station that St. Clinton originally watched Blake’s 7 on was KTEH (now called KQEH). This station has shown a lot of British sci-fi in the San Francisco Bay Area over the years.
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Alternate title: Sapphire and Stalin
Kiyan and Dylan are like kind of really lame versions of the elementals. Which I bring up because that would explain why all of our guests are way cooler than us. Just like in this episode when we theorize that S&S are the outcasts who constantly fail, that would be us. And then the guests like Lead and Silver who are super suave and cool, that would be Keith and John. Damn. It’s Assignment 4, written by PJ Hammond and aired between January 27th and February 5th, 1981.
Show-notes:
2:11: Check out our Doctor Who podcast, Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast. Here’s the specific episode that Keith was on.
7:15: Here’s the Anorak Zone’s Sapphire and Steel section. Really hope they finish this at some point.
21:51: Ghostbusters
25:48: If you want to hear us podcast about Blake’s 7, check out our Blake’s 7 podcast, Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
28:27: Paul Darrow had his legs amputated because of an aortic aneurysm.
34:19: We watched Chuck for Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast, our movie trilogy podcast. Here’s the specific episode where we watched Chuck.
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Tune in this week to find out how to pronounce Russell Wooten.
Tune in this week to also find out how much of Russell Wooten is too much Russell Wooten. Turns out all three of us have a really different point of view on this really really important topic. It’s Assignment 3, written by PJ Hammond and aired between January 5th and 22nd, 1981.
Show-notes:
18:20: Here are a few articles about storing old comic book storage and preservation.
38:38: Yes, Emmerdale (Farm) was produced by Yorkshire Television.
45:16: According to this article, pretty much everything on Yahoo Groups is now gone forever.
1:40:24: Lady Gaga’s meat dress has its own Wikipedia page.
1:45:41: Victor Victoria is pretty highly rated on Rotten Tomatoes. Not that that means anything.
1:55:20: If you’re reading this, you probably already know about the Making Blake’s 7 twitter account. But if you somehow don’t, here’s the Making Blake’s 7 twitter account.
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Look I’m not saying this could have been 2 serials but I’m not not saying that either.
Honestly I’m kind of glad we started with the 8 parter right off the bat. In general 8 parts back in classic Who days was the “max” we’d watch in one week. Anything above (like the 10 part The War Games or 12 part The Dalek’s Master Plan) we split over two weeks. Kind of almost wonder if we should have done that here, maybe we would have given it a more fair shake. It’s Assignment 2, written by PJ Hammond and aired between July 31st and November 8th, 1979.
Show-notes:
4:10: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
9:30: I’m guessing most people listening to this won’t know what CatDog and Rocko’s Modern Life are, so here are some wikipedia links for ya.
23:35: Yep, it was Remembrance Day.
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“It’s pretty clear” – Kiyan, about halfway through this episode.
It’s the start of the third season of Inevitable, which is massively increasing our season count already. Two was a record to begin with, and now three is the record, can you believe it? And soon in like 8 weeks it’ll be broken yet again. It’s Assignment 1, written by PJ Hammond and aired between July 10th and 26th, 1979.
Show-notes:
3:03: HAHAHAHAHAHA sweats
6:23: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast, our Doctor Who podcast.
1:08:10: Bringing Up Baby was released in 1938.
1:23:07: Here’s the intro to Callan. It is pretty ominous, but somehow the way Dylan described it I thought there wouldn’t be any music.
1:24:42: We’re still approaching Torchwood. We’ll be starting it on Trust Your Doctor in a month or two.
1:28:51: Apparently Find a Grave is a thing.
1:33:36: Here’s Eurovision 1966’s “A Man Without Love,” composed by Cyril Ornadel.
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How many times can I reference Doctor Who this week?
This is the second season finale for Inevitable, and this time we’ve actually gone all out and gotten a guest. That’s quite a step up from Star Cops which just kind of… ended. And then it wasn’t really an end because we were back the next week. Well this time that won’t be true. Triple Play will be returning in Inevitable’s place so look out for that! It’s Full Circle, written by Jeremy Burnham and Trevor Ray and aired on February 21, 1977.
Show-notes:
12:45: For those who don’t know who Charlie Chan is (like I didn’t), he’s (far as I can tell) a fairly controversial fictional detective.
35:47: It was Return to the Stones
47:52: The series I was thinking about here was The Clifton House Mystery.
1:02:22: Lucas apparently drew heavily on The Hidden Fortress when creating Star Wars.
1:31:48: Check out Krynoid Podcast to hear Jim talk about Doctor Who.
1:33:41: And check out Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast to hear us talk about movie trilogies.
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Personally I find circles to be a much more pleasing shape than squares.
Oh god I can’t believe how late I was in uploading this episode. Or was I? In reality this podcast exists within a temporal loop, and is continuously being repeated for all eternity. Which means you’ve already heard this episode, and will hear it again soon. It’s Squaring the Circle written by Jeremy Burnham and Trevor Ray and aired on February 14, 1977.
Show-notes:
1:30: Check out Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast
1:50: Squaring the circle is an actual thing.
3:59: If you want to hear us disparage Adric from Doctor Who way more than we do here, heck out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
14:24: SnooPING AS usual I see. Also, here’s an explanation of Big Chungus for the uninitiated (like me).
25:50: If you for some reason want to hear us talk more about the Troll “trilogy” (including “Troll 3,” the movie we talk about here), check out our Triple Play episode on it.
27:23: Check out Krynoid Podcast
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Honestly when was the last time you even heard the word charmed?
Honestly this episode seems to have already flown my memory. It’s been like a week and a half or so since I watched it and my brain has just completely and utterly discarded it. Like, it’s just frankly gone. Or at least it was until I remembered that this was the episode with the you know what sandwich. Shudder. It’s Charmed Circle, written by Jeremy Burnham and Trevor Ray and aired on February 7, 1977.
Show-notes:
4:37: For more about Mission to Destiny, check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
6:32: Nolo contendere. It was actually Scotland that had “not proven”
18:49: For more on Fred 2, check out Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast. Yes, it’s the sequel to the feature-length film about Fred.
21:03: I corrected myself from McDonald’s to KFC here, but let’s be honest they probably both do this.
23:16: The wikipedia page for Forbidden Planet has more info on how the animation in the movie was done. And I wasn’t right about how it was done.
27:00: Ok, here’s the weird thing. I found the page again so I could post the link here (here it is), but it actually says “clearly match” and not “perfectly match.” I could’ve sworn it said “perfectly” and would still swear it did. I wouldn’t have even brought it up if it didn’t. This is some Twilight Zone stuff right here. Or maybe I just misread it. Who knows?
31:31: Check out Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast
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Wait how do you have a narrow circle?
I’m starting to wonder if this series could be even more trippy if I dropped some acid or smoked some weed right before watching it every week. I think that’s what Matt is doing so why can’t I do it as well? Tune in next week for the resolution to this thrilling plot line. Just kidding. It’s Narrowing Circle, written by Jeremy Burnham and Trevor Ray and aired on January 31, 1977.
Show-notes:
9:37: I could only find The Rhetoric of Temporality on Scribd, which you need an account for unfortunately.
18:49: According to this barbering timeline, barbers in ancient times (~900 according to this site) also performed surgeries and were called barber surgeons.
29:00: The Logan’s Run movie actually came out in 1976 and the tv series came out in late 77. It was actually Star Wars that came out on December 27, 1977 in the UK (just about a week before Blake’s 7).
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Now with 75% more recap!
The title of this episode makes me think heavily of the ouroboros, which is that snake arranged in a circle that’s eating its own tail. Although really a snake isn’t the same as a serpent but the mistake is easy to make as far as I’m concerned. What is a serpent anyway? It’s Serpent in the Circle, written by Jeremy Burnham and Trevor Ray and aired on January 24, 1977.
Show-notes:
12:47: This article has a pretty good explanation of dating rocks via magnetic field. Just scroll down to “Using paleomagnetism to date rocks and fossils”
20:33: Here’s the picture of the black hole that was released in April 2019 (I think).
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Why do I have this weird feeling that there’s an episode of Doctor Who with this name?
This might be one of the shortest “actual” episodes we’ve ever released. Obviously our introductory episodes are always shorted than this, but this covers an actual topic! A whole full 25 minute episode that we condensed into a whole 21 minute podcast episode. Amazing that’s a whole 4 minutes we saved you. It’s Circle of Fear, written by Jeremy Burnham and Trevor Ray and aired on January 17, 1977.
Show-notes:
1:48: According to Wikipedia, Dai is a Welsh name.
6:02: Here’s the mentos & coke fishing video. They’re catfish by the way. Mudskippers are another type of fish that are able to live in and out of water.
18:17: Speaking of Neverending Story 3, we watched Neverending Story 3 for our movie trilogy podcast Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast, which you should check out cause it desperately needs the listeners.
18:50: The Black Cauldron was a book that came out in the 60s before Disney made the movie.
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Personally I find triangles much more pleasing to the eye.
It’s time for us to journey beyond our perception of euclidian space time. It’s time we shut the door on the simple shows of the past, that dealt with complex, 3 dimensional shapes. It’s finally time to take a look at what might be both the most simple and yet also the most complex two dimensional shape: The Circle. It’s Into the Circle, written by Jeremy Burnham and Trevor Ray and aired on January 10, 1977.
Show-notes:
9:12: Check out our Blake’s 7 podcast Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast and our Doctor Who podcast Trust Your Doctor: A Doctor Who Podcast.
10:52: Here’s the link if you’re interested in listening to the BBC documentary about this show yourself. I haven’t listened to it yet.
19:48: Check out our movie trilogy podcast Triple Play: A Movie Trilogy Podcast.
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And so we have reached our second series finale.
The title of this episode remind me of that Star Trek episode that one time when Quark went back in time and it turned out he was the alien that crash landed at Roswell, New Mexico. That would have been the weirdest thing about this episode, tbh, if it had suddenly turned into a crossover with Star Trek. Can you imagine?! It’s Little Green Men and Other Martians, written by Chris Boucher and aired on August 31st, 1987.
Show-notes:
1:39: This episode was always meant to be the finale to the show with the cliffhanger ending of them going to Mars. In the original plan this was episode 10, but one episode (the original episode 9) was cancelled and they just moved this one up.
5:29: Episode 5 was written by Philip Martin.
36:00: I’ll just leave this here again: Big Finish Star Cops hub
41:18: To them I say you should listen to Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast.
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Two people can keep a secret if one of them is dead.
I have never seen a psychiatrist, but I have seen a psychologist. And I’m starting to really wonder how that distinction could be so massively lost in Star Cops. I mean, they do and perform completely and utterly different tasks so the confusion between the two is honestly baffling. Unless Parr just happens to be a psychiatrist that also performs psychological duties, which then that’s all well and good. It’s Other People’s Secrets, written by John Collee and aired on August 24th, 1987.
Show-notes:
13:15: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 Podcast, our Blake’s 7 podcast.
32:27: War Horse was directed by Stephen Spielberg
43:33: More about Bright if you care. Also, Wikipedia describes this as urban fantasy and not high fantasy, so that’s a little disappointing.
46:24: Ok here we go:
Like the ripple of the water sends a message to the shore
So for now and ever after I will miss you more and more
It won’t be easy
No, no
I won’t be easy without you
No, no
I won’t be easy
No, no, no. Shine a light into the darkness find an answer everyday
How I wish that you were with me now I know that come what may
It won’t be easy
No, no
It won’t be easy without you
No, no
It won’t be easy
No, no, no.
Reach across the stars let them know you’re with me
Reach across the stars send out the word let them know what can be
Send out the word I remember you.
In the shelter of the moonlight in the shadow of the sun
In the silence that’s eternal there’s a blessing one by one
It won’t be easy
No, no
It won’t be easy without you
No, no
It won’t be easy
No, no, no.
Thanks, David.
47:34: The Big Finish Star Cops portal if you care.
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Alternate title: Online Guess Who Champion Anna Shoun
I just realized how much easier this show would be to do if we both also had clones. Can you imagine if there was a clone Dylan whose entire job is to just edit this podcast? Straight up I would save so much time if I had another version of me to do that. This weekend I spent upwards of 5 hours on Trust Your Doctor. 5 hours! It’s A Double Life, written by John Collee and aired on August 17th, 1987.
Show-notes:
1:26: Here’s the 30th anniversary article from We Are Cult.
10:54: Guess Who gameplay demonstration
33:59: yes, Chris Boucher is still alive. The Kaldor City series was released in the early-mid 2000s, with expanded universe stuff coming out up until 2012.
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My lizard body doesn’t know this “warm blood” of which you speak.
Did you know that you can use blood as a substitute for eggs in most recipes? Turns out that the protein content of blood is pretty similar to egg whites. This is why recipes like blood pancakes exist, although I can’t imagine the flavor being anything the same at all. Although if you’re out there and have given them a try, do please reach out and tell me. It’s In Warm Blood, written by John Collee and aired on August 10th, 1987.
Show-notes:
7:50: More on the Stuart Little painting
12:00: Mars is Heaven
14:26: Here’s NTSF:SD:SUV’s take on forensics stuff, and here’s Red Dwarf’s
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When I first read the title of this episode I genuinely thought it would be a briefcase.
It’s actually kind of surprising the speed at which we’re burning through these episodes. Considering there’s only 9 of them it really feels like we just recorded episode 0 the other day, and in reality we actually just recorded episode 7. Which means in just two short weeks we’ll have watched and recorded an episode for every episode of Star Cops already. It’s also weirdly interesting that an episode that deals with radiation, and thus obliquely a half life, is halfway through the season. It’s This Case to be Opened in a Million Years, written by Philip Martin and aired on July 27th, 1987.
Show-notes:
1:17: Check out Zenith: A Blake’s 7 podcast if you like Blake’s 7.
2:30: A stormtrooper bumped his head on a door in episode IV. According to the Star Wars wiki this was a mistake that made its way into the final movie.
15:39: The Euro got its start in the late 90s and early 00s, but had been in the planning stages for way longer.
21:21: Gallery of Piet Mondrian paintings
29:25: It was from Bad Dudes.
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Star Cops is anything BUT trivial.
I used to play Trivial Pursuit actually, my family owns the movie trivia one. Which was really hard to play back in the day when I was a wee lad who didn’t know anything about anything because I was like 12 and hadn’t seen bloody Gone with the Wind. Although I still haven’t actually seen it, so I suppose I still fall into that boat weirdly enough. It’s Trivial Games and Paranoid Pursuits, written by Chris Boucher and aired on July 27th, 1987.
Show-notes:
7:24: Also Sprach Zarathustra
10:43: They won’t.
36:29: Who Framed Roger Rabbit came out in 1988.
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Personally I never intelligently listen.
My computer pretty much never listens to me. Although I know my personal FBI man is sitting somewhere, staring at me typing this feeling rather insulted. Then again, if he lets me create and release this podcast into the world maybe he deserves a gentle ribbing every now and then. It’s Intelligent Listening for Beginners, written by Chris Boucher and aired on July 20th, 1987.
Show-notes:
2:49: The Sick Rose by William Blake
10:54: We mention the Anorak Zone site a lot, so here’s their page for this episode if you wanna see it.
17:49: It was Harold Godwinson.
19:20: It’s a bit from Brian Regan.
25:09: Wikipedia has a list of all (or at least a lot of) the organization that called themselves “Black Hand”
31:27: Unfortunately I can’t find the site again, but I’ll put it here if I end up finding it later.
32:51: Check out Zenith, our completed Blake’s 7 podcast.
42:25: That gif of Jordan Peele sweating
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You might say we’re mediums then.
This new podcast is really taking off, mainly just in my mind though. It’s like how Nathan kept taking Lee to that same shitty Chinese place she hated. We keep making content people just kind of shrug at but we keep doing it because we find it absolutely bloody hilarious. It’s Conversations with the Dead, written by Chris Boucher and aired on July 13th, 1987.
Show-notes:
5:00: Example of Freelancer
22:33: I guess this BBC article provides a broad overview of gun laws in the UK. It’s like 10 years old but probably mostly still current. And skimming Wikipedia for 3 minutes it seems like gun regulations were strengthened throughout the 20th century.
31:19: Check out Zenith, our completed Blake’s 7 podcast.
44:00: Check out Trust Your Doctor, our Doctor Who podcast.
46:44: Check out all the different permutations of the name “Turlough”
48:15: It was The Thick of It.
50:20: Wiki Quote lists the “When you have eliminated all which is impossible …” quote as coming from The Adventure of the Blanched Soldier. Quote Investigator has a pretty interesting (tldr) page detailing the history of the “Elementary, my dear Watson” quote.
51:09: Apparently this line is a reference to a 1950 movie called Sunset Boulevard.
53:15: The actual story is actually fully written out on the wiki page for The Exegesis of Phillip K. Dick. The story Dick wrote for Harlan Ellison was The Story to End All Stories for Harlan Ellison’s Anthology Dangerous Visions.
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Welcome, we hope you enjoy your stay.
This is the very first episode of a brand new podcast, only the fourth time that we’ve done this! We should be experts at this by now, and yet somehow I still didn’t set any of this nonsense up until the night before it was supposed to be released. An Instinct for Murder, written by Chris Boucher and aired on July 6th, 1987.
Show-notes:
0:00 Before we even get into anything, check out our other podcasts, Trust Your Doctor (where we watch all of Doctor who in order), Zenith (where we watch all of Blake’s 7 in order), and Triple Play (where we watch movie trilogies).
6:58 Space Fall is a currently ongoing Blake’s 7 podcast. They’re pretty great, so check them out. Flight Through Entirety, similarly, is a great ongoing Doctor Who podcast that you can check out.
8:45 Big Finish has a few Star Cops offerings these days.
18:56 Reminder that this masterpiece plays in its entirety in this episode.
25:54 Star Trek Enterprise started in 2001. Here’s what the intro sounded like.
30:13 Henry David Thoreau. My bad.
34:25 More about the first crime committed from space.
37:28 Her full name is Pal Kenzy. We get it right in later episodes.
58:56 More on the Rolex murder mystery.
1:06:52 I was thinking of Ian Cuthbertson.
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This week we have something new for you.
This is Episode 0 of our new podcast, Inevitable. Because, as we all know, we’re basically suckers for attention and so as soon as someone mentioned we should watch even more sci-fi everyone has to have known that this would be inevitable. Inevitable will be available on your favourite podcasting platform on October 18, 2019!
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