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Sarah & Beth

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Hosted by Kentuckians Sarah Stewart Holland and Beth Silvers, Pantsuit Politics is an independent podcast that takes a different approach to the news. Sarah and Beth are citizens who prioritize curiosity over the conflict that often drives political conversations. Pay attention without the anxiety. New episodes every Tuesday and Friday.

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Pantsuit Politics is celebrating ten years of podcasting this year!

A lot has happened politically, culturally, and personally in the last ten years. This summer, we’re going to revisit each of the years we’ve been podcasting with a special flashback episode. Today, we are looking back at the first year of Donald Trump's first term as president.

Topics Discussed

  • The Year of Resistance
  • The Beginnings of #metoo and Reflecting on Our Work
  • Outside of Politics: Cultural Highlights of 2017

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In (another) politically tumultuous weekend in the US and around the world, Sarah and Beth catch up on the headlines and step back to talk about the political scene with Ben Wikler of the Wisconsin Democratic Party.

Topics Discussed

  • Political Assassination in Minnesota
  • Israel vs. Iran
  • “No Kings” Protest and a Military Parade
  • Ben Wikler on Rebuilding the Democratic Brand
  • Outside of Politics: Kid Rotting or Wild Summer

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Pantsuit Politics is celebrating ten years of podcasting this year!

A lot has happened politically, culturally, and personally in the last ten years. This summer, we’re revisiting each of the years we’ve been podcasting with a special flashback episode. Today, we continue the conversation by looking at 2016.

Topics Discussed

  • The Biggest News Stories of 2016: The Presidential Election, Brexit, and the MAGA takeover of the Republican Party
  • Outside of Politics: Cultural Highlights of 2016: Hamilton and Lemonade

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Sarah and Beth are together to discuss the immigration raids in Los Angeles, the subsequent protests, and the decision by the Trump administration to send in the military. Plus, the bromance between Elon and Donald has come to an end - why?

Topics Discussed

  • ICE Raids and Protests in Los Angeles
  • The Feud Between Elon Musk and Donald Trump
  • Outside of Politics: Sarah’s Trip to Italy

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Pantsuit Politics is celebrating ten years of podcasting this year!

A lot has happened politically, culturally, and personally in the last ten years. This summer, we’re going to revisit each of the years we’ve been podcasting with a special flashback episode. Today, we begin with a look back on our earliest days as podcasters in 2015.

Topics Discussed

  • The Biggest News Stories of 2015: Terror, Shootings, and the Rise of Donald Trump
  • Starting Our Work in 2015
  • Outside of Politics: Cultural Highlights of 2015

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Today, we're celebrating 1,000 episodes of Pantsuit Politics with our friend Jen Hatmaker. Jen Hatmaker is a writer, podcaster, speaker, and long-time friend of our show. She's with us today to reflect on our journey to this podcasting milestone and discuss her new memoir, Awake, coming out in September.

Whether you've been listening to Pantsuit Politics for 1 episode or 1,000, we're delighted to have you join us for a mom-hug of an episode.

Don't forget Reimagining Citizenship, our 30-day meditation series leading up to July 4th starts this week. You can join us here.

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Vanessa Zoltan joins Beth to discuss the Trump administration's attacks on universities, specifically Harvard, and what that tells us about their priorities.

Topics Discussed:

  • The Trump Administration Comes for Harvard
  • Antisemitism and Campus Protests
  • Outside of Politics: What Happens and Guiding Art

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We ask a lot of our public school systems and teachers. We want our kids to know the basics, to learn new technology, and be prepared for the jobs of the future. We want schools to fill in gaps left by broken homes and communities, pay teachers fairly, and cost less money. Today, Sarah and Beth ask at the end of a school year, 'How's that working for us?'

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We’ve spent a lot of time recently talking about the aging leadership in Washington. Today, we’re looking forward with not one but two compelling voices representing a new generation of leadership.

First, we'll hear from Michigan State Senator Mallory McMorrow, whose powerful speeches defending inclusive policies have resonated nationwide. Then, we'll sit down with rising star Jake Rakov to explore his vision for progressive governance in practice.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the revelations about Joe Biden's health and capacity and what it means for future democratic politics and our democracy.

Topics Discussed:

  • Former President Biden’s Health and an Aging Democratic Party
  • The Responsibility of the Media, What We Can Say, and Who Decides
  • Outside of Politics: Valedictorians

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Potential cuts to Medicaid are a major cause of Republican infighting over the federal budget. Sarah and Beth discuss what that might look like and why it divides Republicans so deeply.

Topics Discussed:

  • The Costs of Medicaid
  • Republicans Divided on the Budget
  • Outside of Politics: Personal Creativity

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Sarah and Beth discuss the President's state visit to the Middle East, the 'gift' of a plane from Qatar, and the Trump Administration's open corruption.

Topics Discussed

  • Trump Heads to the Middle East to Make Deals
  • Open Corruption in the Trump Administration
  • Outside of Politics: Disappearing Southern Accents

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Today, we talk with Emily Ley, whose small business has put her into an unexpected role: plaintiff against the Trump administration. She candidly discusses how recent tariff policies are impacting her business, employees, and will impact customers in the weeks and months ahead. Listen for a revealing conversation about the personal cost of trade politics for American entrepreneurs.

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Sarah and Beth are discussing Diddy's trial and the state of the #metoo movement, as well as checking in on the cost of Trump's tariffs.

Topics Discussed

  • The Cost of the Trade War
  • Sean 'P Diddy' Combs Trial and the #metoo Cabinet
  • Outside of Politics: Thrifting

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We're delighted to be joined by Rep. Morgan McGarvey, who has represented Kentucky's 3rd Congressional District since 2023. He spoke to us about the budget process, practical ways to care for veterans, and pushing back against the Trump administration. Plus, outside of politics, he shares a truly unique life experience.

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Sarah and Beth are assessing the successes, failures, and chaos of the first 100 Days of President Trump's second administration.

Topics Discussed

  • FBI arrests State Judge Hannah Dugan in Wisconsin
  • President Trump’s First 100 Days
  • Outside of Politics: The Best of Veggies

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Sarah and Beth delve into Elon Musk's tumultuous week, offering insights into DOGE's “success” and the profit decline at Tesla that has investors on edge. We also explore Musk's complicated family dynamics and his controversial pronatalist views. Outside of politics, we move from talking about monitoring babies to monitoring teens.

Topics Discussed

  • Updates on DOGE’s Work
  • Profit Decline and Panic at Tesla
  • Elon Musk’s Children and the Pronatalist Movement
  • Outside of Politics: Tracking Your Teenagers

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Sarah and Beth dive into the Trump administration's troubling deportation policies targeting protesters and examine what happens when presidential power collides with constitutional rights and due process.

Topics Discussed

  • Episode Feedback: Death with Dignity
  • The Legacy of Pope Francis
  • Detangling Evil and Incompetence in Trump’s Government
  • Due Process for Non-Citizens
  • Outside of Politics: When is it safe to leave your child alone?

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Sarah and Beth explore the complex intersection of medicine, ethics, policy, culture, and personal autonomy surrounding physician-assisted death. They discuss the challenging terrain of end-of-life choices and examine how different countries approach this from a legal perspective. This conversation offers compassionate insight without easy answers about one of healthcare's most nuanced ethical frontiers.

Topics Discussed

  • Physician-Assisted Death
  • Outside of Politics: How to Be Happy in Old Age

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Sarah and Beth process the violence targeting Governor Shapiro, the Trump administration's sweeping deportation policies, and how the administration's approach to trade, tariffs, and immigration is reshaping relationships with big law, big tech, and big business—creating instability that affects us all.

Topics Discussed

  • Violence at Pennsylvania Governor Shapiro's Residence
  • The Trump Administration Doubles Down on Deportation
  • President Trump's Chaotic Tariff Policy
  • Outside of Politics: Sarah's Trip to DC

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Beth and comedian Matt Ruby explore how stand-up comedy reveals what Americans truly think about political issues. What audiences laugh at can be a stronger political indicator than any focus group.

Topics Discussed

  • Comedian Matt Ruby on Political Insights from Stand-Up
  • Outside of Politics: Nachos and Overrated Foods

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Beth is joined by her daughter Ellen to discuss tariffs, the economy, and DEI. Then, we share a conversation with author Lindsey Cormack about her book, How to Raise a Citizen, and the importance of civic education if we hope to make a better future.

Topics Discussed

  • Beth and Ellen discuss tariffs, the economy, and DEI
  • How to Raise a Citizen with Lindsey Cormack
  • Outside of Politics: Ellen goes to Broadway

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Sarah and Beth examine President Trump's controversial new tariff proposals and their economic implications, the growing divide within the Republican Party over several different issues, and Senator Cory Booker's history-making speech on the Senate floor.

Topics Discussed

  • Tariffs and Liberation Day
  • Congressional Republicans and the Federal Budget
  • Cory Booker’s Speech and a Glimmer of Hope for Democrats
  • Outside of Politics: Produce Wars

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Sarah and Beth examine the ripple effects of President Trump's recent executive orders targeting law firms, businesses, and universities and how these policies have created a 'fight or flight' response among institutions. They explore the consequences for the legal system and higher education and the path toward meaningful resistance in this challenging landscape.

Topics Discussed

  • Big Law Meets the Trump Administration
  • The Resistance Grows Up
  • Outside of Politics: April Fools

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Last year, the Supreme Court changed college sports. Sarah and Beth are taking in the field (no pun intended) to see how the ruling has changed the amateur athletic landscape and how it continues to shift. They discuss NIL (name, image, likeness), transfer portals, and the continued commercialization of the amateur space.

Topics Discussed

  • March Madness and Professionalizing College Athletes
  • Outside of Politics: Bodily Fluids and Discomfort

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We're excited to share with you a show we love, Choice Words with Samantha Bee. In this episode, Congressman Maxwell Frost joins Sam to talk about what it’s like to be the first member of Gen Z in Congress, and why it’s so important for Democrats to choose to see themselves as the opposition party, not the minority party. They talk about how to make decisions that impact millions of people and why the Kennedy Center coup was more significant than people think, and that he has been reading a lot about Elon Musk because it’s important to know your enemies. Sam learns that Congressman Frost is a “no notifications guy,” that he subscribes to even more newsletters than she does, and that the phone calls to Congress are actually working.

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Today, Sarah and Beth are discussing the Signal controversy, in which Jeffrey Goldberg (editor-in-chief of The Atlantic) was accidentally added to a group chat discussing war plans among top US officials. They discuss the national security implications and what this tells us about the second Trump administration's approach to governance.

Topics Discussed

  • The War Plans Group Chat
  • Donald Trump’s Revenge Tour
  • Outside of Politics: Tasks You Hate vs. Tasks You Miss

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Today, Sarah is joined by Maggie, Director of Community Engagement at Pantsuit Politics, to explore their experiences within the 'crunchy mom' community. From Ricki Lake's 'The Business of Being Born' documentary to 'Make America Healthy Again,' Sarah and Maggie share what they've learned from their crunchy journeys and why they ultimately left.

Topics Discussed

  • Home Birth
  • Childhood Vaccination and MAHA
  • Outside of Politics: Changing Schools

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Topics Discussed

  • A Sort-Of Ceasefire
  • The Impact of the Fall of Syria
  • The Influence of Saudi Arabia
  • Outside of Politics: Book Clubs and Comfort Reading

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Topics Discussed

  • Rep. Thomas Massie and the Budget Deal
  • The Escalating Trade War
  • Ceasefire Negotiations Between Ukraine and Russia
  • The Detention of Mahmoud Khalil
  • Outside of Politics: Rituals of Joy

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In our ongoing whiteboard series, we are having conversations about where we are getting it wrong in American politics - specifically Democratic politics - and dreaming of a better way for the future.

Tyler Austin Harper is a perfect guest for a conversation like that. On today’s show, Sarah and Beth sit down with the writer to examine the strategic errors Democrats are making both in the political arena and higher education spaces. Together, they challenge some of what has become conventional wisdom and alienated formerly key Democratic voting blocs, explore some pragmatic alternatives, and ask what it will take to recalibrate a Democratic approach and build broader coalitions.

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On today’s show, we welcome Peter Goodman, The New York Times global economist correspondent, for a discussion on President Trump’s imposition of large tariffs, the escalating trade war they are triggering, and the rippling effects across supply chains for so much of what we buy.

Topics Discussed

  • Tariffs, Trade War, and the Global Supply Chain with Peter Goodman
  • Outside of Politics: Wedding Registries

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Is Trump putting America first? Is he playing four-dimensional chess for the greater good? Is he incompetent? Sarah and Beth unpack and discuss the geopolitical ramifications of his Oval Office meeting with President Zelenskyy, tariffs, and what it will mean when the impacts come knocking on our doors.

Topics Discussed

  • President Trump Meets with President Zelenskyy in the Oval Office
  • President Trump’s Tariffs Go into Effect
  • Outside of Politics: Lent

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Sarah and Beth discuss controversial figure Javier Milei, Argentina’s president whose unorthodox style and politics have captured the attention of Elon Musk and America’s MAGA movement. They examine how he came to power in Argentina, what he’s done there, and how his ideology has influenced conservative thinking in the United States.

Outside of politics, we want to hear about your whimsical habits!

Topics Discussed

  • Argentina Under the Leadership of Javier Milei
  • Milei’s Influence and Ideology in the United States
  • Finding Solutions After the Damage
  • Outside of Politics: Whimsical Habits

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In today's episode, Sarah and Beth discuss Senator Mitch McConnell's announcement that he will not seek an eighth term in the United States Senate. They also discuss the potential impact of DOGE on the national debt, and, outside of politics, they talk about school snow days and how we learn at home.

Topics Discussed

  • Senator Mitch McConnell’s Legacy
  • DOGE
  • The US Deficit
  • Outside of Politics: Snow Days and Non-Traditional Instruction

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Destruction can be part of the building process; it certainly is a key part of Elon Musk’s approach to business and his new - legally ambiguous - role with DOGE. There is, however, a fine line between disruption and destruction. The tech mantra of “move fast and break things” can be dangerous, particularly when applied to the government. On today’s show, Sarah and Beth explore this idea and how the new Trump administration is letting Musk run full steam ahead.

Plus, they discuss the Trump administration’s approach to foreign policy, most notably marked this week by Ukraine’s exclusion from the negotiating table with Russia. Outside of politics, Beth shares her new hack for managing her online shopping.

Topics Discussed

  • Ukraine Excluded from Negotiations
  • Is Elon Musk Building or Destroying Through DOGE?
  • Outside of Politics: Online Shopping Strategies

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On today’s show, Sarah and Beth talk about President Trump's mass firings of probational federal employees and what that means for our communities and government, a mass shooting that was averted and why we're hearing about it, and outside of politics, SNL's 50th-anniversary celebration.

Topics Discussed

  • DOGE Fires Federal Employees
  • Sandy Hook Promise Prevents Mass Shooting
  • Outside of Politics: SNL 50 and the next great thing in TV

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It’s not lost on us that we are taking a more unique approach to the second Trump administration than many other creators. On today’s show, Sarah and Beth explain some of the thinking behind their approach - including why we want to make space for conversations like the next one on today’s show. We share a fabulous conversation with Jane Perlez about China - its economy, its use of surveillance techniques, and its potential future. Plus, it’s Valentine’s Day, so outside of politics, we’re talking romance!

Topics Discussed

  • Why We’re Talking About China
  • Jane Perlez on China’s Economy, Surveillance, and Future
  • Outside of Politics: Valentine’s Day and Romance

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Sarah and Beth discuss the recent actions of Trump's DOGE, the courts, the tweets, and how we as citizens might think about the current state of the Federal Government.

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Beth sits down with Holly Page, who co-founded No Labels, to talk about why they aren't giving up on bipartisan work in Washington D.C., even in this period of intense partisan entrenchment.

Plus, outside of politics, they talk networking tips.

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Sarah and Beth are together today to discuss the chaotic beginning of the third week of the Trump administration. They discuss the on-again-off-agency tariffs, the Department of Government Efficiency and its attempts to close USAID, and what they think the Democratic response should be.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Tariffs
  • DOGE
  • Outside of Politics: Glitching

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Rep. Greg Landsman joins us to talk about the early days of the administration and what Democrats should be doing right now.

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Sarah and Beth process the Executive Orders from the Trump administration, their on-the-ground impact, and what comes next.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Shock and Awe of Executive Orders
  • Outside of Politics: Games

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Today, Sarah and Beth discuss their approach to the second Trump administration. Outside of politics, they discuss whether or not they read more than one book at the same time.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Not Just Surviving the Trump Administration
  • Outside of Politics: Reading Multiple Books at Once

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Donald Trump returned to office on January 20 in a ceremony held in the Capitol Rotunda. Sarah and Beth discuss his first day in office, his flurry of executive orders, and the TikTok ban and un-ban over the weekend. Then, Senator Cory Booker joins them to discuss what's giving him hope and how he thinks Senate Democrats can work effectively in this administration.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • President Trump Takes Office
    • Inauguration
    • Executive Orders
    • TikTok
  • Senator Cory Booker on his vision for the Democratic Party

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After 15 months, a ceasefire deal has been reached in the Middle East. Sarah and Beth discuss that as well as the legacy of President Biden. Plus, cabinet hearings have begun for Donald Trump's second cabinet. Outside of politics, Beth and Sarah debate the merits of pens vs. pencils.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Ceasefire in the Middle East
  • The Legacy of President Biden
  • The Backlash Cabinet
  • Outside of Politics: Pens vs. Pencils

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Sarah and Beth discuss the fires in Los Angeles and the implications of Climate Crisis for home owners insurance, and how we want to give to good causes in the new year.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Los Angeles Fires
  • Home Insurance Crisis
  • Outside of Politics: Magnificent Giving

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Sarah and Beth are joined by Rep. Ro Khanna of California to discuss the new Congress, the future of the Democratic Party, and the barriers to positive change.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the domestic terror attacks that began the year in New Orleans and Las Vegas, the new Congress, and reflect on the life and legacy of President Jimmy Carter. Outside of Politics, they discuss the podcasts, books, and movies they enjoyed over the holidays.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • A Violent Beginning
  • A New Congress
  • President Jimmy Carter’s Legacy
  • Outside of Politics: What we watched over the break

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As we head into 2025, the idea of community feels intrinsically important to our well-being - both as people and a country. For so many of us, adult friendship can be a challenging landscape to navigate. Anna Goldfarb has written a wonderful new book about friendship in the modern era. We loved this conversation with her and know you will, too.

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Throughout 2024, our community slowly read through Alexis de Tocqueville’s classic, Democracy in America. This book has a surprising amount to teach us about our modern political climate, as well as how we got here. As we close out the year, Sarah and Beth close out our read along and reflect on what they learned about the present by looking to the past.

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Earlier this year, we were honored to speak with legendary historian and author Doris Kearns Goodwin about her latest book. This conversation was a highlight of our year and also still feels full of wisdom for us as we head into a second Trump administration and consider presidential power.

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Every week on our Substack page, Sarah shares a good news brief highlighting positive news from around the world. Here in this season of joy, we wanted to share her final good news brief of the year with all of you. 2024 was a hard year in many ways, but we don't want to lose sight of what there is to celebrate.

If you enjoy this, we hope you'll join us on Substack in the new year to get your good news from Sarah every Thursday.

RESOURCES:

  • The Government Is Finally Cracking Down On Those Sneaky 'Service' Fees
  • This drug is the 'breakthrough of the year' -- and it could mean the end of the HIV epidemic
  • Cervical cancer deaths are plummeting among young U.S. women
  • ‘Exciting’ new lupus treatment could end need for lifelong medication
  • How patients can get better rest in the hospital
  • Egypt declared malaria-free by World Health Organization
  • Pedal power: how bicycles are changing what it means to be a girl in India
  • 120 Miles of Russian Forest Couldn’t Keep Two Siberian Tigers Apart (Gift Article)
  • It turns out Taylor Swift fans are generous tippers
  • Hopeful Images From 2024

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We are delighted to share a conversation we had with Casper ter Kuile in early 2023 about the power of ritual. It feels so right for this moment, and we know you are going to enjoy it, whether you are hearing it for the first time or returning it for a second listen.

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If we know anything about 2025, it's that we know very little about what it will actually hold. Even with the anticipated unpredictability, there are indicators from this current moment that offer us some suggestions. Sarah and Beth are together to share what they are expecting in 2025 and to share their words of the year.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • Elon Musk and Funding the Government
  • What We Expect in 2025
  • Outside of Politics: Words of the Year

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“There are years that ask questions and years that answer.” Zora Neale Hurston

Sarah and Beth the questions and answers they still have from 2024.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • Reflecting on 2024
  • Outside of Politics: Open Houses

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'Tis the season for overconsumption - or is that every season now? Sarah and Beth talk about the struggles they are facing in their own lives with consuming and being consumed.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • Overconsumption
  • Outside of Politics: Microtrends for 2025

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Today, Sarah and Beth are following up on some of our conversations from the headlines last week, discussing social media in the context of overconsumption and the many (many) words of the year.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • Good News Makes Headlines
  • Social Media, Our Brains, and How We Handle It
  • Outside of Politics: So Many Words of the Year

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In the wake of the 2024 Presidential Election, everything is different. In the US, around the world, and in our own lives, Sarah and Beth discuss how Donald Trump's re-election seems to have shaken things loose for better (and certainly) for worse.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • Killing of United Health Care CEO Brian Thompson
  • International News from South Korea, France, Lebanon, and Syria
  • Outside of Politics: Errand Brain

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President Biden has chosen to pardon his son, Hunter. Sarah and Beth discuss that choice in light of incoming president Trump's latest nominations and how Biden's choices over the last few years have had rippling consequences. Plus, Sarah and Beth are divided on their Wicked takes!

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • President Biden Pardons Hunter Biden
  • The Joe Biden of It All
  • Outside of Politics: Wicked

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We’re revisiting an episode from September 2023 about safe storage, the portrayal of weapons in media, and reducing gun violence. We hope this episode is helpful to you as you prepare to spend time with friends and family over the holidays.

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Back in the spring, Sarah was featured on the cover of her hometown magazine, Paducah Life. As part of that cover story, she sat down with fellow Paducah native Chef Sara Bradley. They talked about leaving Paducah, coming back, and how they have worked to integrate personal and professional choices.

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Sarah and Beth use the Future Problem Solving process to look at what we know about America today and brainstorm solutions about where we go next.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • Future Problem Solving: America
  • Outside of Politics: Paying Kids for Chores

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Sarah and Beth discuss the responsibilities of Congress, the Supreme Court, and others will power at this time.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Trump Appointments
  • The Time to Be Bold
  • Outside of Politics: The Sexiest Man Alive

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Sarah and Beth discuss Donald Trump's ongoing appointments and talk about what can be learned from the down ballot results.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Trump Appointments and Expectations
  • Lessons from the Down Ballot
  • Outside of Politics: Is It Time for Christmas?

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Sarah and Beth continue to process the results of the 2024 Presidential Election.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The 2024 Trump Coalition
  • What to expect from the second Trump Adminsitration
  • Outside of Politics: Common Ground Pilgrimages

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Sarah and Beth reflect on the reelection of Donald Trump and what's ahead for us as Americans.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Processing the Reelection of Donald Trump
  • The Path Ahead
  • Outside of Politics: Jason Kelce

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Sarah and Beth reflect on election day, anxiety, and the state of podcasting.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Election Day Check-In
  • Pantsuit Politics Turns Nine!
  • Outside of Politics: Self-Care During Election Week

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Sarah and Beth cover the last days of the campaign and what may come next.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Closing Arguments from Harris and Trump
  • Are the Polls Accurate?
  • Will There Be More Political Violence?
  • Christian Nationalism and Trump
  • Outside of Politics: The Best Time Zone

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Sarah and Beth discuss Michelle Obama, Beyonce, and host a roundtable with our husbands

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Beyonce and Michelle Obama Weigh in on the Election
  • Trump’s Madison Square Garden Rally
  • A Roundtable with Our Husbands
  • Outside of Politics: Halloween

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Sarah and Beth talk with KY Lt. Gov. Jacqueline Coleman and high school student Peter Jefferson about Amendment 2 and the broader national trends around how we fund education.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Lt. Gov. Jacqueline Coleman on KY Amendment 2
  • Peter Jefferson of the Kentucky Student Voice Team
  • Outside of Politics: The Failure of Memory

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Sarah and Beth discuss what might happen after the US presidential election and the results of elections around the world.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • What can we expect after election day?
  • Global Election Results from 2024
  • Outside of Politics: Should you write your own obituary?

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Sarah and Beth discuss Harris's interview with Brett Baier and recent Trump events.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Brett Baier of Fox News Interviews Kamala Harris
  • How Nine Years Campaigning Has Changed Donald Trump
  • Outside of Politics: Was Email a Good Idea?

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Sarah and Beth discuss the final stretch of the Harris and Trump campaigns.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Harris vs. Trump
  • Outside of Politics: Our Pre-Election Exhale

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On today’s show, we’re continuing our discussion and demonstration of how we talk politics with our kids. We are excited to share a conversation today between Brian Tyler Cohen, Sarah, and Sarah’s teenage son Griffin. A conversation between a teenage content consumer, the content creator, and the teen’s parent is a rare combination - one we think offers a lot of insight.

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Beth is joined by Anna Musky-Goldwyn of Political Playlist Happy Hour to discuss the young Republicans and the future of the party.

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We get so many questions about how to talk to kids about politics. Today, we're sharing some of what we have learned over the years with our own children, including a demonstration conversation between Beth and her daughter Ellen.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Talking to Your Kids About Politics
  • Beth and Ellen Discuss the Presidential Debate
  • Outside of Politics: Screen Time

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Sarah and Beth discuss the longshoreman strike and what it means for the economy and election and then share their interview with Maryland Governor Wes Moore.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Longshoremen’s Strike
  • Our Conversation with Governor Wes Moore

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Senator JD Vance and Governor Tim Walz had a substantive debate on Tuesday night. Sarah and Beth are discussing their reactions and critiques together.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Vice Presidential Debate
  • Outside of Politics: Containers and Boundaries in Modern Life

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Sharing an episode of To See Each Other, a show that complicates the narrative about small town Americans in our most misunderstood, and often abandoned, communities. This season, host George Goehl travels to Lincoln County, Wisconsin to follow a small town battle for the last remaining public nursing home in the community. It’s a heart-pounding roller coaster of a fight - in a swing state that could determine the election.Over the course of the show, a universal truth emerges: That in every complicated set of politics, when we refuse to give up on each other, we can build a better future.


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There are more than 140 referendums, initiatives, and amendments on state ballots this November. Sarah and Beth are breaking them down and sharing their thoughts on the trends they see.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Abortion Referendums in Ten States
  • Ballot Initiatives: Election Reform, Crime, Legalization of Marijuana, Immigration, Taxes, and Prison Labor
  • Kentucky Amendment 2
  • Outside of Politics: Invitations

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Sarah and Beth discuss the upcoming UN Summit, down-ballot races in the November election, and the rat race of parenting.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • UN Summit
  • Down-ballot Races and Scandals
  • Outside of Politics: School Pictures and Fundraisers

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We’re joined by Sharon McMahon, podcaster and author, to discuss her new book, The Small and the Mighty: Twelve Unsung Americans Who Changed the Course of History, from the Founding to the Civil Rights Movement.

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Sarah and Beth discuss a chaotic political weekend, including an apparent second attempt on former President Donald Trump's life, what is and isn't happening in Springfield, Ohio, and the cacophony surrounding the former President's relationship with Laura Loomer, a far-right activist and internet personality. Outside of politics, we'll discuss America's sleep obsession.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Attempted Assassination of Donald Trump
  • Laura Loomer and Donald Trump
  • Springfield, Ohio
  • Outside of Politics: Sleepmaxxing

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Sarah and Beth discuss the looming government funding deadline, fiscal responsibility, and how we got here.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Government Funding and the SAVE Act
  • The National Debt
  • Outside of Politics: Paying Kids to Read

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The first - and maybe only - presidential debate between Vice President Kamala Harris and former President Donald Trump happened last night. Sarah and Beth are together to share their takeaways.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Presidential Debate Between Kamala Harris and Donald Trump
  • How to Make an Electoral Impact with Your Time and Money
  • Taylor Swift Endorses Kamala Harris

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We talk to Rep. Lauren Underwood about supporting parents through legislation. Plus, Sarah and Beth discuss how the phrase "trust the science" is landing with them these days.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • “Trust the Science”
  • Rep. Lauren Underwood on the Momnibus
  • Outside of Politics: AKA Sorority Sisters

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We talk to Megan Garber of The Atlantic about the new era of scamming, what it means for our society, and the status of reality television.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The New Era of Scamming with Megan Garber
  • Outside of Politics: Reality Television

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We were delighted to talk to Minnesota Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan while at the DNC last week. Plus, we discuss the shifting attitudes about the labor movement in America.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Shifting American Views on Labor
  • Lt. Gov. Peggy Flanagan of Minnesota

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Sarah and Beth have had some time to process their week at the DNC and changes in the presidential race, including RFK Jr dropping out and endorsing former president Donald Trump.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Reflections on the DNC
  • Republican Presidential Politics: RFK Drops Out, Family and Personal Lives
  • Outside of Politics: Swearing and Cussing

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Sarah and Beth have been at the DNC all week, having a great time and some amazing conversations with elected leaders. We're sharing some of those with you today.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Former Governor Jennifer Granholm
  • Senator Debbie Stabenow
  • Live from the DNC with Mayor London Breed and A’shanti Gholar

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We’re at the DNC Convention in Chicago this week, so it felt like the perfect moment to look back at the last time the convention was in Chicago - a truly historic year. There was no better person to discuss that with than James Traub, author of the biography of Hubert Humphrey that Sarah loved.

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It's the start of the school year! We're delighted the kids are back in school and excited to be discussing several hot discussion topics in the education world, mainly, the idea of school choice.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Free School Lunches and Tampons in Bathrooms
  • School Choice with Jon Valant
  • Outside of Politics: Pop Girl Summer

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This is our final episode of the Summer Nuanced Life Reboot, and we're sharing a very poignant conversation with our longtime listener, Kelly Kaufman. Kelly reached out to us after her daughter died suddenly from an asthma attack last March. Her story of grieving with her community and how friends, strangers, and even Hasbro have wrapped her family in love was so potent that we asked her to join Sarah and Beth to talk about her experience in her own voice and words.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the future of the conservative movement reflected in Project 2025, Tim Walz as VP pick, and the Paris Olympic Games.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • 2024 Presidential Race
  • Project 2025
  • Outside of Politics: The Paris Olympics

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There’s so much to celebrate about the older members of our communities, particularly within our own families. In this episode, Sarah talks to her grandmother about her life and Beth commemorates her beloved Grandmother Joy.

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Sarah and Beth talk about tension around the world with developments from Bangladesh to Israel, the Veepstakes, and their takeaways from summer travel.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Global Hotspots
  • Vice President Harris’s Veepstakes
  • J.D. Vance and his comments about “Cat Ladies”
  • Outside of Politics: Sarah and Beth’s Summer Travel

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Sea changes in families often come with hope and heartbreak. In this episode, we share stories from listeners about moments in their life that brought that mix of feelings.

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A lot happened in July. Sarah and Beth talk through the last month of American politics - from the presidential debate to the attempted assassination to the candidacy of Kamala Harris and her potential VP pick.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • J.D. Vance as Trump’s VP Pick
  • The Path to President Biden Dropping Out
  • The Campaign Launch of Kamala Harris
  • The Veepstakes

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So many of us are in our have experienced seasons of caregiving. For you, maybe it was a parent, a child, a pet - someone who needed you to help them get through the day in some form or fashion. In this episode, Sarah and Beth share stories of caregiving from our community and talk about what caregiving means to them.

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We’re delighted to be joined by Governor Josh Shapiro today. Governor Shapiro is focused on practical, impactful work in the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania and we so enjoyed chatting with him about how and why that work matters.

Sarah and Beth also weigh in from their vacations about President Biden’s decision to step down and the path for Vice President Harris to accept the nomination.

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  • On Offense for VP Harris (Pantsuit Politics Patreon - November 8, 2023 episode of More to Say - now free to everyone)

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When we put out the call for questions for this revival of The Nuanced Life, we were flooded with questions about parenthood, particularly early parenthood. We are devoting this full episode to talking about the magical and mysterious and maddening early stages of parenthood.

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At times, there is a divergence between what voters say they want and how they vote. This can be particularly true when it comes to foreign policy. Jeff Friedman, author of The Commander-in-Chief Test, explores that idea with us.

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Sarah and Beth are together today discussing the attempted assassination of Donald Trump over the weekend at a rally in Pennsylvania.

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On this new episode of The Nuanced Life, we dig into the idea of identity diversification and how to thoughtfully shape your personal identity around more than one aspect of your life.

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The Federal Trade Commission wants you to be able to quit your job. Their new rule banning noncompetes has the potential to shake up the labor market in big ways. We spoke with Elizabeth Wilkins about the reasoning behind the rule change and why you should care.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • New Rules from the FTC with Elizabeth Wilkins
  • Outside of Politics: Packing

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Faith and Dating
  • Faith and Parenting
  • Our Relationships with Church

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Sarah and Beth discuss the Supreme Court and Biden's re-election Campaign

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Supreme Court Rules on Trump v. United States
  • The State of President Biden’s Re-Election Bid

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Yesterday, President Joe Biden and former (twice-impeached, 34-time felon) President Donald Trump faced off in the first Presidential debate of the 2024 Election. It was intense, as is Sarah and Beth’s response. They take today’s episode to process it together.

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There's a lot going on this week. Sarah and Beth discuss several of the big stories. Then, we break down one of the most complex, important issues in America: housing. Jerusalem Demsas of The Atlantic joins us for a great conversation.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Louisiana’s 10 Commandments Law
  • The Supreme Court on Guns and Domestic Violence
  • Housing in America with Jerusalem Demsas
  • Outside of Politics: Travis Kelce on Stage with Taylor Swift at the Eras Tour

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We're joined by Meredith Goldstein of the Boston Globe's Love Letters column and podcast to discuss navigating conflict within romantic relationships.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Managing Different Approaches to Parenting
  • Conflict in Romantic Relationships with Meredith Goldstein of Love Letters

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Sarah and Beth discuss the media landscape and avoidance election.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The TikTokification of Media
  • The Avoidance Election
  • Representative Mickie Sherrill on Leadership in the House of Representatives
  • Outside of Politics: Class Reunions

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We're thrilled to be kicking off our limited-run return of The Nuanced Life. We hope this summer series is refreshing and encouraging to you. We'll answer listener questions, commemorate moments big and small, and discuss everything from career changes to family to romance and more.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • What We Expect of Ourselves
  • Kim’s Move and Sarah’s Dog
  • Emily and Lauryn’s New Jobs

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We are delighted to welcome Doris Kearns Goodwin, the incomparable author and historian. Sarah and Beth discuss her new memoir and her front row seat to some major moments in American history.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Elections in India and Mexico
  • Presidential Power and History with Doris Kearns Goodwin

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Last week, American history was made when former president Donald Trump became the first former president convicted of a felony - 34 of them, in fact. Today, Sarah and Beth get into the details of what this conviction means, what may happen next, and the responses to the conviction from people across the political spectrum.

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One of our dearest podcasting friends is Chelsea Devantez of Glamorous Trash. Today, Chelsea’s incredible memoir, I Shouldn’t Be Telling You This, enters the world. We invited her for a conversation about the book, her experience with domestic violence, being conceived with a sperm donor, and so much more. This is a rich, funny, deep conversation you won’t want to miss.

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Sarah and Beth share how they are thinking about several ongoing news stories, including the controversy surrounding Justice Alito and the continuing horrors in Gaza. They also interrupt our own episode for a real-time response to the conviction of former president Trump.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Donald Trump Convicted of 34 Felonies
  • Justice Alito and the Flags
  • Developments in the Israel-Hamas War
  • Outside of Politics: Graduation

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We are delighted to share this conversation with Elizabeth Holmes of So Many Thoughts. Elizabeth is a former Wall Street Journal style reporter and current fashion commentator who gives political and royal fashion the serious, thoughtful, and fun coverage it deserves.

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The verdict in the first criminal trial of former president Donald Trump will likely come down next week. Sarah and Beth discuss how they are thinking about the case. Then, they talk to a therapist about the difference between mental health as a concern and mental health as content.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Criminal Trial of Former President Donald J. Trump
  • Mental Health as Content with Jacey Verdicchio
  • Outside of Politics: Alexa Etiquette

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Sarah and Beth discuss Harrison Butker's controversial commencement speech and more widespread symptoms of feminist backlash. Next, they share this conversation on childcare policy with House Minority Whip Katherine Clark.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Harrison Butker and Feminist Backlash
  • House Minority Whip Katherine Clark on Affordable Childcare
  • Outside of Politics: Smell Maxxing and Perfume Etiquette

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We talked to Ambassador Eisen about what he's seeing inside the courtroom at the Trump hush money trial. Plus, presidential debates have been scheduled for June and September and Sarah and Beth have thoughts.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Presidential Debates Scheduled
  • Ethics and the Trump Trial with Ambassador Norm Eisen
  • Outside of Politics: Baby Hawks

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We're sharing an episode of our Pantsuit Politics Premium show, More to Say, that we released to our Premium subscribers today. To support the show and get access to content like this multiple times each week, subscribe to our Premium content on our Patreon page or Apple Podcasts Subscriptions.

We're delighted to welcome Rosemary Ketchum back to Pantsuit Politics. Rosemary joined us in June 2020 when she became the first out transgender public servant in West Virginia's history. Since then, Rosemary has done awesome work in her community and we wanted to invite her back for an update as part of an upcoming Pride Month series we're working on.

When we reached out, we discovered Rosemary is running in an election happening TODAY in hopes of being elected as Wheeling's next mayor. We couldn't let her election day go by without sharing this energizing and encouraging conversation with you. As you'll hear, Rosemary is so smart and charismatic. We're wishing her the absolute best in her election today.

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  • Rosemary for Mayor Website
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We discuss corruption in government and speak with former Pennsylvania Secretary of State Kathy Boockvar about election security and announce our summer plans.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Corruption Trials of Donald Trump, Bob Menendez, and Henry Cuellar
  • Kathy Boockvar on Securing our Elections
  • Outside of Politics: Coming this Summer: The Nuanced Life

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We speak with Tufts University professor Eitan Hersh about his unique course, which explores conservative political theory with the largely liberal student population at the school.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Teaching Conservative Policy at Tufts with Eitan Hersh
  • Outside of Politics: The Met Gala

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We discuss the tentative ceasefire agreement in Gaza. Then, we share a conversation with an independent college admissions counselor about what's going on with the FAFSA application this year and how that rolling disaster is impacting students and families across the country.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • A Tentative Ceasefire in Gaza
  • FAFSA Complications with Sara Bittner
  • Outside of Politics: Summer Aspirations

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We discuss the possible ouster of Speaker Johnson and how indirect rule shapes foreign policy. Plus, the 35th anniversary of Steel Magnolias.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Mike Johnson and Polarization in Congress
  • A Potential Ceasefire in Gaza
  • Indirect Rule with David Lake
  • Outside of Politics: Steel Magnolias

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Sarah and Beth discuss what's going on with the campus protests and with the former president and current Republican frontrunner. Outside of politics, we talk about our weekends.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Campus Protests
  • Donald Trump’s Trial and Legal Morass
  • Outside of Politics: Busy Weekends

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Tech in Schools with Jessica Grose
  • Outside of Politics: Cup Management

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Complimenting Both Sides: Mike Johnson Got It Done
  • Susan Page on Barbara Walters
  • Outside of Politics: The Tortured Poets Department

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Women’s Basketball and the WNBA
  • Arizona’s Abortion Law
  • The Consequences of Extreme Abortion Law with Dr. Daniel Grossman
  • Outside of Politics: The Gift of Interest

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This year, we're doing a slow read-along of Alexis de Tocqueville's 19th-century classic, Democracy in America. This content is available exclusively to our Premium members, but we're sharing the first discussion with everyone today in advance of our second discussion next week. If you enjoy this episode, you can join us and get access to all past and future book club content - plus our plethora of regular Premium content - at patreon.com/pantsuitpolitics.

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  • American Nations: A History of the Eleven Rival Regional Cultures of North America by Colin Woodard (Amazon)
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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Trump Hush Money Trial Begins in New York
  • OJ Simpson’s Death and Legacy
  • Iran Attacks Israel
  • Outside of Politics: Cowboy Carter

CORRECTION: In this episode, we incorrectly refer to Ronald Goldman, Nicole Brown Simpson's friend who was also murdered outside her home as Ronald Goldstein.

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Today, Sarah is joined by her husband, Nicholas, to discuss the solar eclipse, the National Association of Realtors, and the Indigo Girls.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Reflection on the Total Solar Eclipse
  • National Association of Realtors Settlement
  • Outside of Politics: Indigo Girls

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Today, we're sharing a special episode with you. This conversation with Jane Ferguson was released as part of our fall 2023 book club for our Premium members. As we wrap up our winter cycle this week and prepare to launch our summer cycle, we thought it would be fun to share a glimpse into the type of book club content our Premium members are receiving. You can join us and get access to all past and future book club content - plus our plethora of regular Premium content - at patreon.com/pantsuitpolitics.

Jane Ferguson's memoir, No Ordinary Assignment, details her life as a war reporter. Her courageous work is breath-taking and inspiring. We hope you love this conversation and, if you haven't read the book, that you pick it up as well.


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We're sharing a conversation with Jon Lowy, founder and president of Global Action on Gun Violence, about his international work to enforce gun laws through legal means. Plus, a special appearance from Ellen about how she handles stress at school.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Pantsuit Politics Book Club
  • Global Action on Gun Violence with Jon Lowy
  • Outside of Politics: Stress with Ellen

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Beth is joined by her husband, Chad, to discuss some of his favorite things. First, Apple products and whether or not it is a monopoly as a new lawsuit from the Department of Justice alleges. Then, sports gambling and its increasing prevalence in our society.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Department of Justice v. Apple
  • Sports Betting
  • Outside of Politics: Hat Shopping with Chad

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We share our conversation with listener Kelsey Whitt about her participation in the Missouri Girls State Program and the documentary premiering this weekend on Apple TV.

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Today, Sarah and Beth discuss Trump's 'God Bless the USA' Bible, EPA standards, and headlice. Today is a day where reading the article, not (just) the headline, is a real gift.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Trump’s ‘God Bless the USA Bible’
  • EPA Emission Standards and the Future of Cars
  • Outside of Politics: Headlice is No Fun

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We were honored to talk with Governor Jay Inslee about the Reproductive Freedom Alliance and the other good work he’s doing in Washington State.

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Sarah and Beth debate the pros and cons of the TikTok bill as well as explore why conspiracy theories are so prevalent on the platform, including ones about Catherine, the Princess of Wales.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Pros and Cons of the TikTik Bill
  • The Proliferation of Conspiracy Theories on TikTok
  • Outside of Politics: Does It Hold Up?

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Sarah and Beth discuss rollbacks of crime and policing reforms in traditionally blue cities and what that means for the movement for restorative justice.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Shifting Policies, Data, and Attitudes about Criminal Justice
  • Outside of Politics: Going to the Mall

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Four years out from the Covid-19 shutdown in the United States, Sarah and Beth talk to Dr. Charity Dean, one of the co-authors of Lessons from the Covid War: An Investigative Report, about what America did well and did poorly and how we should be thinking about preparations for the next pandemic.

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Sarah and Beth discuss Joe Biden's SOTU address, Senator Katie Britt's response, and spring cleaning.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Joe Biden’s State of the Union Address
  • Outside of Politics: Spring Cleaning with House Peace

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Sarah and Beth break down the results of the many Super Tuesday primary elections and what they mean for the general election in November.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The 2024 Presidential Race & Political Priorities
  • 2024 State Races
  • Congress at Work
  • Daylight Savings Time
  • Outside of Politics: Sarah’s Oscar Predictions & Beth’s Survivor Takes

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Catch up on the weekend's headlines with Sarah and Beth.

TOPICS DISCUSSED* The Humanitarian Crisis in Gaza * Donald Trump and the Supreme Court * Mitch McConnel Retires from Senate Leadership * The House Passes a (very) Short-Term Government Funding Agreement * Super Tuesday, Joe Biden’s Polling, and the General Election * Outside Politics: Our “Don’t” List

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Sarah and Beth talk with certified expert Erin Baute about how your Enneagram number and personality may impact how you view the presidential election.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Enneagram and the Election
  • Outside of Politics: Solving Laundry

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Sarah and Beth talk about the South Carolina primary results and Nikki Haley's path forward. Then, they take a deep dive into a topic that is personally and politically important: TikTok trends on teen mental health. They wrap up with a conversation outside of politics about their different attitudes about skin care for kids.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Nikki Haley’s Future After the South Carolina Primary Results
  • TikTok Mental Health
  • Outside of Politics: Skin Care for Young Girls

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Sarah and Beth talk about the major update concerning the star witness against Hunter Biden as well as break down the controversial decision by the Supreme Court of Alabama to legally consider embryos used in the IVF process as children.

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  • Updates on the Hunter Biden Investigations
  • Alabama’s Supreme Court on IVF
  • Outside of Politics: Why You Should Never Retire

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Sarah and Beth discuss Alexei Navalny's death in a Russian prison and Trump's civil fraud judgment in New York.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Alexey Navalny’s Death in Russia
  • Trump Found Liable for Civil Fraud in New York
  • Outside of Politics: Making the Bed Part 2

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We talk with producer Rob Reiner and director Dan Partland about their new documentary God & Country and explore the impact of Christian nationalism in America. Then, Beth and Sarah have the same intensity about one household chore and it's absolute necessity.

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  • God & Country with Rob Reiner and Dan Partland
  • Outside of Politics: Making the Bed

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Sarah and Beth discuss President Biden, Donald Trump's comments on NATO, and more in today's new episode. Then, they share a conversation with Dr. Mark Shrime of Mercy Ships about providing medical aid and training in war-torn and impoverished regions of the world.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Special Council Robert Hur’s Report and President Biden’s Response
  • Mercy Ships with Dr. Mark Shrime
  • Outside of Politics: The Super Bowl

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We're sharing an episode of our Pantsuit Politics Premium show, More to Say, that Beth released earlier this week. To support the show and get access to content like this multiple times each week, subscribe to our Premium content on our Patreon page or Apple Podcasts Subscriptions.

The Court of Appeals has unanimously determined that former president Donald Trump does not have absolute immunity from criminal prosecution. Beth is breaking down this case for us.

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  • United States v. Donald Trump (US Court of Appeals, DC Circuit)
  • Judge Chutkun, Taylor, and Beyonce (December 12, 2023 More to Say)

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Sarah and Beth discuss the Michigan case against the mother of a school shooter as well as a variety of political debacles from the week.

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  • The Nevada Primary & Caucus
  • The Failure of the Immigration Negotiations
  • The Attempted Impeachment of Alejandro Mayorkas
  • What’s Happening in Court This Week
  • Michigan Mom Convicted of Involuntary Manslaughter in School Shooting Case
  • Outside of Politics: Sarah’s New Substack

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Sarah and Beth discuss Latin American strongmen, reformers, and elections. Plus, this year's Grammy awards and performances.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Latin America: Elections and Political Trends
  • Outside of Politics: The Grammys

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Sarah and Beth identify the various problems at the southern border and what is keeping us from solutions.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Southern Border & Immigration Issues
  • The Political Roadblock to Immigration Solutions
  • Outside of Politics: Scruffy Hospitality

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Sarah and Beth discuss Trump's defamation case, international crises and conflict, and the pop culture phenomenon of Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce's real-life rom-com.

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  • E. Jean Carroll Awarded $83.3 Million Dollars in Second Trump Defamation Case
  • Escalating Tensions in the Middle East
  • The Ongoing War in Ukraine
  • Outside of Politics: Taylor Swift and Travis Kelce

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A lot of reporting is stating that the Republican primary for president is over and Trump has it sown up. Is that true? Sarah and Beth discuss the results of the New Hampshire primary and what may happen from here.

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  • New Hampshire Primary Results
  • What Comes Next for the Campaigns
  • Outside of Politics: Oscar Nominations

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Sarah and Beth discuss Trump's 2024 calendar and the DOJ Critical Incident Report from Uvalde.

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  • DeSantis Drops Out of the Presidential Race
  • Trump’s Legal and Electoral Questions
  • The Uvalde Report
  • Outside of Politics: A Different Approach to Scheduling

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State legislatures are often the laboratory for American democracy in the sense that they birth lots of legislative experiments. Today, we're looking at a wide range of laws from both blue and red states that are taking effect this year and how they may impact you.

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  • New Laws: What a Crappy Idea
  • New Laws: It’s About Time
  • New Laws: Old-Fashioned Good Work
  • New Laws: Interesting Experiments
  • Outside of Politics: Teaching Cursive Handwriting

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57,000 Iowa Republicans voted for Donald Trump in the Iowa Caucus. Sarah and Beth discuss whether or not we should be concerned.

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  • Iowa Caucus Results
  • Outside of Politics: Snow Days and Winter Weather

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The Iowa Caucus is on Monday, so we're devoting the episode today to discussing if it will actually make a difference in the GOP primary race and what it's like on the ground in Iowa.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • NY Times Focus Group Iowa
  • Inside the Iowa Caucuses with Dr. Andy McGuire
  • Outside of Politics: The Crown

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Sarah and Beth process reporting on the SCOTUS's overturning of Roe v. Wade and the impact on pregnancy care in America.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Reporting on the Supreme Court’s Dismantling of Roe v. Wade
  • The Life-changing Fallout of Abortion Bans in Pregnancy Care
  • Outside of Politics: Football as Our Shared Experience

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Inevitably, when we're off for a break, news abounds. Today, Sarah and Beth are catching up on the news from over the winter holiday break including Trump's potential disqualification from state ballots, the ongoing wars in Ukraine and Gaza, and why Congress really ought to step up and do its job.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Upcoming Presidential Election: Should Trump Be Disqualified from the Ballot?
  • Wars in Ukraine and Gaza
  • The Need for Congressional Leadership
  • Outside of Politics: Intentions for the New Year

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As we reflect on our best episode of 2023, we would be remiss not to include this wonderful conversation with Secretary of Transportation, Pete Buttigieg. We’ve wanted to talk to Pete for years and it was so exciting and enjoyable to finally make that happen.

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We invited our community to vote on their favorite episodes of the year. This episode originally aired in August and is such a wonderful representation of the work we try to do here at Pantsuit Politics. We’re always trying to learn and grow individually and as a society and the Covid-19 pandemic gave us a unique opportunity to do that.

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We invited our community to vote on their favorite episodes of the year. This episode, featuring author Richard V. Reeves, was a huge hit and easily earned the most votes of all our episodes from the second quarter of the year.

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We invited our community to vote on their favorite episodes of the year. This episode, featuring Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch, was a stand-out. So much of this conversation remains relevant as the war in Ukraine continues.

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The war in Israel and Gaza has been one of the hardest news stories we’ve ever covered here on the show. Today, we’re talking with Gregroy Khalil of The Telos Group about what he sees in his work and the way forward to a future of true peace for a region long fraught with violence.

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In our final new episode of 2023, we look at positive trends across the US and the wider world.

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  • Positive Trends from 2023
  • Outside of Politics: 2024 Words of the Year

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We are delighted to share this conversation with former Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton. She graciously spoke with us about the conflict in Israel and Gaza, the delicate balance of diplomacy, the impact of social media on our modern democracies, and the Year of the Girl. We could not have enjoyed this more and we know you’ll feel the same.

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We discuss Congress, college presidents, and conflicts around the world.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • University Presidents go to Washington
  • Turmoil in Congress
  • State Legislature
  • Stories from 2023 that We’re Still Thinking About
  • Outside of Politics: Beyoncé

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We share Beth's conversation with McKay Coppins, author of the new Mitt Romney biography.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • McKay Coppins on Romney’s Political Soul-Searching
  • Jane Ferguson for the Pantsuit Politics Premium Book Club

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Sarah and Beth discuss the DeSantis/Newsom Debate and the 2024 Republican Primary.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Red State/Blue State Debate with Ron DeSantis and Gavin Newsome
  • The Threats of Another Trump Term
  • Outside of Politics: Ghost Influencers

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Sarah and Beth share the books, articles, and news sources that challenged and shaped their views in 2023.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Content that Shaped our Perspective in 2023
  • What we loved about the Culture Zeitgeist of 2023

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We discuss the shakeup - or lack thereof - at OpenAI and the tenuous ceasefire in Gaza.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • OpenAI Corporate Drama
  • Misinformation and Social Media News
  • A Fragile Ceasefire in Gaza
  • Outside of Politics: Guy Friends

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It’s one of the biggest travel weeks of the year in the United States, so we’re sharing a conversation with Ganesh Sitaraman, Professor of Law and Director of the Vanderbilt Policy Accelerator and author of the new book, Why Flying is Miserable: And How to Fix It. He shares how flying got to be such a slog and some ideas about how we can change it.

  • Ganesh Sitaraman Website
  • Why Flying Is Miserable: And How to Fix It by Ganesh Sitaraman (Bookshop)

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We know the holidays can be a tough time, particularly when you are entering into gatherings with people who stress you out. We’re devoting the entire show today to real strategies and conversation about how to not just get through these gatherings, but enjoy them.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the near physical violence in Congress this week. They also return to their conversations about the economy and the ongoing war in Gaza.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Congress: Funding the Government and Throwing Punches
  • Economic Indicators vs. Citizen Feelings
  • War in Gaza
  • Outside of Politics: Naked Attraction

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Sarah and Beth discuss last week's election results and what they can or can't tell us to expect in 2024, the wave of moderate officials announcing they won't be seeking reelection next year, and the candidates still seeking the Republican nomination.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • 2023 Election Results
  • 2024 Dropouts
  • 2024 Presidential Primary
  • Outside of Politics: Taylor and Travis in Argentina

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Vice President Kamala Harris can’t seem to catch a good news cycle. But why? She’s not perfect, but she’s doing good work. Beth has taken it upon herself to play offense for the Vice President and today starts that initiative.

RESOURCES:

  • NAU Students Question VP Harris on Israel-Palestine (AZPM)
  • ‘I can’t get into people’s heads': Kamala Harris tries to reshape her public image ahead of 2024 (Politico)
  • Kamala Harris Visits Stonewall Inn to Express Support for LGBTQ Rights (The New York Times)
  • Kamala Harris Says ‘Inequality Persists’ in Home Appraisals (The New York Times)
  • Kamala Harris, at Former Slave Port in Ghana, Ties Past to Present (The New York Times)
  • In Africa, Kamala Harris Looks to Deepen Relations Amid China’s Influence (The New York Times)
  • In Southeast Asia, Kamala Harris is at the center of White House efforts to counterbalance China (AP News)

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Sarah and Beth talk to Jessica Grose about her work reporting on religiosity (and the lack thereof) in America. Jessica has reported in depth on the "religious nones," people who identify as having no religious practice or faith. Then, we share a conversation with Vanessa Zoltan about finding sacred meaning in secular work.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Religious Nones with Jessica Grose
  • Finding the Sacred in Secular Texts with Vanessa Zoltan

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Sarah and Beth discuss Biden's persistently poor poll numbers in the face of positive economic trends.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Positive Economic Numbers and Low Consumer Confidence
  • Should Biden Drop Out of the 2024 Presidential Race?
  • Outside of Politics: The Holiday Hodgepodge

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Sarah and Beth discuss the invasion of Gaza and upcoming American elections.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Ground Invasion in Gaza
  • Upcoming Local and State Elections
  • Outside of Politics: Our Roman Empires

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Happy Halloween. Sarah and Beth share their conversation about moral panic in music and culture this Halloween.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Matthew Perry’s Tragic Death
  • All Saints Day
  • The New Satanic Panic
  • Outside of Politics: Happy Halloween

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We discuss the discourse around Israel and Palestine in the United States, Rep. Mike Johnson becoming Speaker of the House and the recent developments in Georgia's RICO case.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Israel-Hamas War
  • Rep. Mike Johnson: Speaker of the House
  • Plea Deals in the Georgia RICO case
  • Outside Politics: Online Shopping and Disconnecting from our Phones

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We discuss uncertain global situations, the Speaker debacle, and what exactly is going on with bonds, inflation, debt, deficit, and the economy generally.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Unrest in the World
  • Disarray in the House
  • Bonds, Inflation, and the Economy
  • Outside of Politics: Pantsuit Politics Live in Paducah

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We’re delighted to be sharing out conversation with a special guest today, Secretary of Transportation, Pete Buttigieg. He chatted with us about the personal impact of infrastructure and transportation projects, as well as shared his concerns over the budget negotiations. Plus, a glimpse into his life as a dad.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the conflict between Israel and Hamas, the race for Speaker of the House, and our aging population.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Conflict Between Israel and Hamas
  • The Race for Speaker of the House
  • Aging Populations in Congress and the American Public
  • Outside of Politics: Taylor Swift

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Sarah and Beth discuss updates in some of the biggest stories of the week: the violence in Israel, the race for Speaker, and the 2024 presidential primary.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The World Responds to the Attack in Israel
  • The Race for Speaker of the House
  • 2024 Presidential Candidate Updates
  • Outside of Politics: Fall Break

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Sarah and Beth discuss Hamas's terrorist attack in Israel and the aftermath for both Israeli and Palestinian people.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The October 7th Terrorist Attack in Israel
  • Conflict and Terrorism in Israel and Palestine with Kerry Boyd Anderson
  • Outside of Politics: The Role of Social Media when the News is Intense

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In the wake of the horror in Israel, we're sharing an episode of our Pantsuit Politics Premium show, Good Morning. Sarah records a news brief like this one to cover the headlines Monday-Thursday. To support the show and get access to content like this each week, subscribe to our Premium content on our Patreon page or Apple Podcasts Subscriptions.

RESOURCES:

  • IDF: We have full control of Gaza border
  • Hamas Threatens to Kill Israeli Hostages as Rhetoric Escalates
  • Netanyahu’s recklessness has brought war upon Israel
  • US Senate Majority Leader Schumer Meets Xi, Welcomes Stronger Chinese Statement on Hamas Attack
  • House Republicans brace for drawn-out speaker fight

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Sarah and Beth discuss Kevin McCarthy's ouster and chat with The Puberty Podcast about walking kids through political engagement.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the ongoing political turmoil in Israel with Yair Rosenberg.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Weekend News Review
  • Israel’s Political Crisis with Yair Rosenberg
  • Outside Politics: Redeeming Social Media

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Sarah and Beth talk with Heather Cox Richardson about the state of political parties in the United States and her new book Democracy Awakening.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Democracy Awakening with Heather Cox Richardson
  • Outside of Politics: Preparing Your Kids for Higher Education

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We're sharing an episode of our Pantsuit Politics Premium show, More to Say, that Beth released earlier this week. To support the show and get access to content like this multiple times each week, subscribe to our Premium content on our Patreon page or Apple Podcasts Subscriptions.

On September 13, 20 couples got married in a ceremony on the National Mall. It was both a celebration and a protest. The couples included people with disabilities who risk losing life-sustaining benefits by marrying people who are not disabled. Today, we're talking about the marriage penalties written into federal law and how those penalties can be eliminated.

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RESOURCES:

  • What’s Next In ‘Marriage Equality’ For People With Disabilities?’ (Forbes)
  • Disabled Couples Make a Plea for Marriage Equality at Washington Rally (The New York Times)
  • Supplemental Security Income (SSI)
  • Disabled Adult Child (DAC) Marriage Penalty
  • Seeking Marriage Equality for People With Disabilities (The New York Times)
  • Rep. Panetta Introduces the Marriage Equality for Disabled Adults Act
  • A local couple’s dream to get married has become a national advocacy campaign for inter-abled marriage equity. (Monterey County Weekly)

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Sarah and Beth cover the Sen. Menendez indictment, the Senate dress code, and the strike updates. Then, they chat about school car lines.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Senator Menendez Indictment
  • The Senate Dress Code
  • A Looming Government Shutdown
  • A Deal in Hollywood
  • The Auto Workers Strike
  • Outside of Politics: School Lines

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Sarah and Beth discuss the state of the technology industry, the complexity of Elon Musk's role in our society, and what's going on with all the alien discussion lately.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Technological Advances & Elon Musk
  • UFOs & Extraterrestrial Life
  • Outside of Politics: Astrology

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Sarah and Beth discuss Jewish Space Lasers: 200 Years of Conspiracy Theories with Mike Rothschild (no relation)

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Jewish Space Lasers: The Rothschilds and 200 Years of Conspiracy Theories with Mike Rothschild (no relation)
  • Outside of Politics: Conspiracy Theories, Secrets, and the Unexplained

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Sarah and Beth discuss the new impeachment inquiry that Republicans are rolling out in the House. They also talk about the state of immigration in American and what might be needed to fix it. Plus, mammograms and online shopping.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Impeachment Inquiry
  • Immigration
  • Outside of Politics: Mammograms
  • Outside of Politics: Online Shopping

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Sarah and Beth discuss the forthcoming book, The Identity Trap, with Yascha Mounk, Ph.D.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Identity Trap with Yascha Mounk
  • Outside of Politics: The Joy of Daily Games

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Sarah and Beth catch up with Chelsea Devantez about the state of the Hollywood strikes and what we might expect in the world of future content creation. Plus, they discuss how this election is not normal in a variety of ways.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Not a Normal Election
  • Hollywood Strikes Update with Chelsea Devantez
  • Outside of Politics: TradWives

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Sarah and Beth discuss labor unions and solutions to labor shortages.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The State of the Labor Movement
  • Solving Labor Shortages with Misty Chally
  • Outside of Politics: Our First Jobs

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Sarah and Beth discuss more recent shootings and then talk to Piper Perabo and Kris Brown about how they are advocating for change in the way Hollywood depicts gun usage.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Jacksonville & UNC Shootings
  • Tennessee Special Session
  • Show Your Safety with Piper Perabo and Kris Brown
  • Outside of Politics: Fall & Seasonality

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Sarah and Beth discuss staffing shortages in schools and the hottest summer on record.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Staffing in Public Schools
  • The Era of Global Boiling
  • Outside of Politics: What We’re Reading

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Sarah and Beth discuss the first Republican presidential primary debate in Milwaukee, former President Donald Trump's counter-programmed interview with Tucker Carlson, and #RuskTok.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Fox News Republican Presidential Primary Debate
  • Trump and Tucker
  • Outside of Politics: RushTok

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Sarah and Beth discuss the Republican and Democratic presidential primaries and the 2024 presidential race.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The State of the 2024 Republican and Democratic Presidential Primaries
  • Outside of Politics: Do we still want purses?

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Today, our whole episode is dedicated to discussing the Georgia indictment of former president, Donald Trump and his 18 alleged co-conspirators.

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We look back at covid and share our conversation with Jennifer Senior about long covid and her September cover story for The Atlantic: "The Ones We Sent Away."

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Fire Storm in Maui
  • What We Got Wrong About Covid
  • Long Covid with Jennifer Senior
  • Outside of Politics: The Ones We Sent Away with Jennifer Senior

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This week, we’re sharing something special from our friends over at The Boston Globe. It's a preview of their new show, Say More. Shirley Leung talks to the doers and thinkers behind the biggest ideas and debates of our time. Like … will artificial intelligence make humans obsolete? Can giving cash to low-income families bring stability to their lives? Politics. Culture. Entrepreneurship. Women shattering the glass ceiling. And more.

In this episode: The US-China relationship seems to grow more contentious every day, with spying, hacking, economic warfare, and high-stakes military exercises in the Pacific. Shirley talks to investigative reporter David Barboza, who spent 12 years in China for The New York Times, witnessing China's astonishing economic expansion and growing sway in the world.

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Sarah talks with Kaytlin Bailey about the decriminalization of sex work.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the rural/urban divide and the case against travel.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • “Try This in a Small Town” and the Rural/Urban Divide
  • Critiques on and the Value of Travel
  • Outside of Politics: Sarah’s Summer Travel

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Sarah and Beth discuss the third and most recent indictment of former president Donald Trump, this time for his attempt to overturn the 2020 presidential election.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Latest Trump Indictment
  • Outside of Politics: Beth at the Disciples of Christ Conference

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Sarah and Beth are back together catching up on Congress's summer term, the Presidential Primaries, Barbenheimer, and the Hollywood Strikes.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Congress
  • The State of the Republican and Democratic Presidential Primaries
  • Barbenheimer and the Hollywood Strikes
  • Outside of Politics: Our Summer Sabbaticals

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Sarah shares conversations with Neil Greathouse, Stacey Simms, and her son Felix about living with diabetes and what we can learn from it.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Neil Greathouse on the Cost of Insulin
  • Stacey Simms on Parenting a Diabetic Child
  • Felix Holland on Diabetes Camp

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Beth shares a conversation with guest host Kennedy Miller on being raised in and reckoning with Southern identity.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Waiting for News from Special Prosecutor Jack Smith
  • Grappling with being raised in the South and the Culture Wars with Kennedy Miller
  • Outside Politics: London and Opera

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Beth continues to process the Supreme Court decision on affirmative action alongside Bethaney Wilkinson.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • January 6th Criminal Cases and Indictments
  • After Affirmative Action with Bethaney Wilkinson
  • Outside of Politics: Living with Pain

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Beth is joined by her husband Chad to discuss the WGA and SAG-AFTRA strikes as well as their experience putting solar panels on their home.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The WGA & SAG-AFTRA Strikes
  • The Silvers Family Experience with Solar Panels
  • Outside of Politics: Entertaining vs. Opening Your Home

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Beth shares a conversation with parenting coach Mary Van Geffen about the gentle parenting style and how parenting advice is as much about how you were parented as how you may or may not be parenting. Then, outside of politics, Sarah and Beth share their approach to wearing shorts.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Mary Van Geffen on Gentle Parenting
  • Outside of Politics: Shorts

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Beth reflects on the Supreme Court's recent slate of decisions before bringing in two experts to discuss moral injury and why it's such a relevant topic at this moment in history. Plus, Ellen joins for Outside of Politics to share her review of the children's television show Bluey.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Reflecting on the Supreme Court
  • Moral Injury with Rev. Dr. Susan Ward Diamond and Dr. Rita Nakashima Brock
  • Outside of Politics: Ellen on Bluey

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Beth's friend Brian joins her as co-host to discuss the intense heat around the country and how he and his wife approached making new friends as adults. Then, Beth has a delightful conversation with Rob Harvilla about the best and worst of presidential campaign songs.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Heat, Water, and Development Choices
  • Rob Harvilla on Presidential Campaign Songs
  • Outside of Politics: Making Friends as Adults

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Sarah and Beth interview Taylor Kiland about her book Unwavering and the wives of Vietnam POWs and their advocacy to leave no man behind.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • America’s involvement in the Vietnam War
  • Unwavering: The Wives Who Fought to Ensure that No Man is Left Behind with Taylor Baldwin Kiland
  • Outside of Politics: Healthy Patriotism

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Sarah and Beth discuss the Trump Indictment, the 2024 Presidential Primary (on both sides of the aisle), The Supreme Court and it's overturning of precedent, and outside of politics they discuss favorite children and parenting.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Trump’s Federal Indictment
  • 2024 Presidential Primary
  • The Supreme Court
  • Affirmative Action and Equal Protection
  • Outside Politics: Favorite Children and Parenting

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We process the attempted coup in Russia by the Wagner group and its abrupt end, the coverage of the OceanGate disaster, and reflect on the year since the Dobbs decision overturned Roe v. Wade.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • An Attempted Russian Coup
  • Titanic OceanGate Submersible Implosion
  • The Anniversary of the Dobbs Decision
  • Outside of Politics: Reflecting on June

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It's been a decade since Edward Snowden leaked government documents. Today, we're reviewing the history of what led him to that point and what happened in the aftermath. We found it helpful to look at the story as a whole rather than the slow trickle of reveals that happened at the time. We hope you'll find this look back valuable as a historical exercise and as we think about the more significant impact of leaking government documents.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • An American History of Leaks
  • Edward Snowden’s Path to Leaking
  • Outside of Politics: Family Dialects

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Juneteenth is the oldest national commemoration of the end of slavery in the United States. Today, it celebrates African American freedom and achievement. We're returning to our 2020 episode about the holiday with a few of the facts that you should know as you celebrate today.

FIVE THINGS TO KNOW ABOUT JUNETEENTH

  1. Juneteenth began in Texas with late news of emancipation.
  2. Emancipation Park in Houston began as a place to celebrate Juneteenth.
  3. Juneteenth was widely observed following the assassination of Dr. King.
  4. Juneteenth became a federal holiday in 2021, although not all states observe it.
  5. Communities celebrate at different times.

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We are delighted to share this conversation between author and researcher Richard Reeves and Sarah. Reeves published his book, Of Boys and Men: Why the Modern Male Is Struggling, Why It Matters, and What to Do about It in 2022. It’s an incredible, important exploration of the challenges facing boys and men in the modern era. This is one you don’t want to miss.

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We are returning to our June 2022 conversation with reporter Jennifer Senior about friendship, heartbreak, and her ongoing reporting projects. This discussion is a delight and we hope you enjoy hearing it again.

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Sarah and Nicholas discuss this week's headlines and reflect on their 20 years of marriage.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • LIV / PGA Golf Merger
  • Mike Pence and Chris Christie join the GOP Primary Field
  • CNN Chairman and CEO Chris Licht is out
  • 20 Years of Marriage with the Hollands
  • Outside of Politics: Everyday Carry

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Sarah and guest host Leslie discuss California politics, the backlash to corporate inclusion policies, the debt deal, and, outside politics, their favorite television shows.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • McCarthy and Biden’s Debt Limit Deal Signed into Law
  • Conservative Backlash to Corporate Inclusion Policies
  • The California Effect
  • Outside Politics: Sarah and Leslie talk television

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We're joined by Rick Steves and the COO of Rick Steves Europe, Craig Davidson, to talk about their Climate Smart Commitment. Then, Sarah and Beth discuss how they have and do navigate travel limitations.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Climate Smart Commitment with Rick Steves and Craig Davidson
  • Outside of Politics: Navigating Travel Limitations

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Sarah and Beth share an update on the state of the debt ceiling deal and what the agreement says about the GOP heading into the 2024 Presidential Primary. They discuss family histories with Allen County Genealogy librarian Elizabeth Hodges.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • President Biden and Speaker McCarthy’s Debt Ceiling Deal
  • State of the Republican Party and 2024 Republican Presidential Primary
  • Genealogy Research with Elizabeth Hodges
  • Outside of Politics: Pantsuit Politics Summer Schedule

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We share a powerful conversation with educator, author, speaker, and content creator, Monique Melton about what it was like to be a Black influencer in the wake of George Floyd's murder three years ago.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Debt Ceiling Negotiations
  • The Aftermath of Instagram Allies with Monique Melton
  • Outside of Politics: School’s Out!

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Anne Applebaum joins Sarah and Beth to discuss her June cover story for The Atlantic, the state of Ukraine's counteroffensive, and what she sees as the needed end to Russia's war in Ukraine.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Ukrainian Counteroffensive with Anne Applebaum
  • Outside of Politics: Gardening

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Sarah and Beth share the second part of a larger conversation about the state of the schools. Today's episode covers issues happening in public K-12 schools, including learning loss, staffing shortages, political debates, and more.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • How We Value Public Education
  • Learning Loss
  • Staffing Shortages
  • Falling Enrollment
  • Political Debate
  • Outside of Politics: Tech Tags for Kids

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Sarah and Beth share the first part of a larger conversation about the state of the schools. Today's episode covers the expense and admissions process of higher education and, more broadly, what we want from higher education. Outside of politics, Sarah and Beth discuss graduation gifts for graduating seniors.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Student Loan Forgiveness and The Cost of Higher Education
  • The Case for Affirmative Action
  • The College Admissions Process
  • Outside of Politics: Graduation Gifts

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Sarah and Beth discuss the legal news of the week - including E. Jean Carroll's successful civil suit against Donald Trump and the indictment of George Santos. Then, they consider the state of the tech industry and why it doesn't seem as promising as it once did.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • E. Jean Carroll’s Civil Suit Against Donald Trump
  • George Santos Indicted
  • The Stumbling of Tech Giants
  • Heather Armstrong’s Tragic Death and Meaningful Impact

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Sarah and Beth discuss the Coronation of King Charles and aging leadership and institutions in the United States.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The End of Title 42 and What’s Next for Immigration
  • Policy and Gun Violence
  • The Coronation of King Charles III
  • Outside Politics: The Chicks in Concert

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We talk to Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian, the Axios China reporter, about China, Taiwan, and their delicate balance.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian on China and Taiwan
  • Outside of Politics: Best Books of 2023 So Far

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Sarah and Beth discuss The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling and the criticisms and responses to it.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Federal Budget and Debt Ceiling
  • San Jacinto Shooting
  • The Witch Trials of J.K. Rowling
  • Outside of Politics: Backlash to Plastic Surgery

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In anticipation of discussing current budget proposals next week, we’re returning to our October 2019 episode on the federal budget process itself.

  • Budget Vocabulary
  • Mandatory vs. Discretionary vs. Tax Breaks
  • Deficits and Debt
  • The Process in Theory
  • The Process in Practice

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We unpack the the Dominion Voting v. Fox News settlement and other news, including the next stage of the legal battle over Mifepristone.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Biden’s Anticipated 2024 Presidential Announcement
  • Supreme Court Mifepristone Ruling
  • Dominion Voting Settlement with Fox News
  • Tucker Carlson and Fox News Part Ways
  • Outside of Politics: Taylor Swift Eras Tour

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We discuss recent gun violence and the impact of fentanyl on the opioid crisis.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Gun Violence
  • Opioid Crisis and Fentynal
  • Outside of Politics: 10 Things to Tell You with Laura Tremaine

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We're sharing an episode of our Pantsuit Politics Premium show, More to Say, that Beth released earlier this week. It really lays the foundation for the conversations we're having on the main show this week and so we wanted you all to have it.

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  • American Cartel: Inside the Battle to Bring Down the Opioid Industry (Bookshop)
  • American Cartel: Inside the battle to bring down the opioid industry (The Washington Post)
  • The Whistleblower (60 Minutes on YouTube)
  • Politicians say they’ll stop fentanyl smugglers. Experts say new drug war won’t work (WAMU 88.5)

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Sarah and Beth catch up on developing headlines and begin a conversation on the opioid epidemic that they'll continue on Friday's show.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Jack Teixeira Arrested for Leaking Classified Documents
  • Supreme Court temporarily stays Mifepristone Order
  • Congress Comes back into Session
  • French Pension Reform Approved
  • Violence in Sudan
  • Opioids in America: Part 1
  • Outside of Politics: Felix Holland’s T1D Diagnosis Anniversary

Correction: Diane Feinstein has stepped down from the Senate Judiciary Committee since this recording. See this article from Politico for more details.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the case NY DA Alvin Bragg is bringing against Rep. Jim Jordan and the Congressional Judiciary Committee. Then, they talk about President Biden ending the official Covid-19 emergency and reflect on what that means.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Alvin Bragg v. Jim Jordan
  • Covid-19 National Emergency Ended
  • Outside of Politics: First Birthdays

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Sarah and Beth catch up on a week of intense headlines.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Kentucky Bank Shooting
  • Tennessee State Legislature
  • Mifepristone Federal Court Battle
  • Clarence Thomas Accepted Luxury Trips From GOP Donor
  • American Reporter Evan Gershkovich Detained in Russia
  • Outside of Politics: Orlando Live Show

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We're joined by Ambassador Swanee Hunt and Monica McWilliams to mark the 25th anniversary of the Good Friday Agreement.

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We discuss former President Trump's upcoming arraignment, and former Michigan Supreme Court Chief Justice Bridget McCormack joins us to discuss legal reforms and democratizing the law.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Trump’s Indictment and Arraignment
  • Former Michigan State Supreme Court Justice Bridgett McCormack discusses the Justice System
  • Outside of Politics: Mail is Life

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Sarah and Beth do their best to process the horror of another school shooting, this time in Nashville, TN. They also check in on the absurdity of the Gwyneth Paltrow ski trial.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Nashville Covenant School Shooting
  • Outside of Politics: The Gwyneth Paltrow Ski Trial

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Today, we're sharing updates to stories we've been talking about Silicon Valley Bank and protests in Israel. Then Sarah and Beth discuss Trump's rally in Waco, the state of free speech, and disappearing vacation days.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Mississippi Tornadoes
  • Silicon Valley Bank Purchase
  • Israeli Democracy
  • Trump Rally in Waco
  • Stanford Law School and Free Speech
  • Parents’ Bill of Rights
  • Outside of Politics: Disappearing Vacation Days

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We discuss the next wave of artificial intelligence and how it may change the world. We also talk about the potential impending indictment of former president Donald Trump and the new season of Ted Lasso.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Potential Impending Indictment of Donald Trump
  • The Next Wave of Artificial Intelligence
  • Outside of Politics: Ted Lasso

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It has been just over one year since Russia invaded Ukraine. Former Ambassador Marie Yovanovitch joins Sarah and Beth to discuss Ukraine's history and future and why it matters.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Ukraine’s Post-Soviet Development and Challenges
  • Russia’s Invasion of Ukraine
  • Lessons from the Edge by Marie Yovanovitch
  • Outside of Politics: Seeing Ukraine as More than its Conflict

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Sarah and Beth talk to Rep. Derek Kilmer about his work leading the Select Committee on the Modernization of Congress. They also reflect on new information on the CDC Survey results we discussed on a recent episode.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Update on CDC Survey Results
  • Rep. Derek Kilmer on Modernizing Congress
  • Outside of Politics: Quirky National Holidays

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Sarah and Beth discuss the collapse of Silicon Valley Bank, anti-trans bills in state legislatures across the US, and whether or not the Oscars have run their course. 

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Collapse of Silicon Valley Bank
  • State Legislatures
  • Outside of Politics: The Oscars

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Sarah and Beth catch up on the news and share about their recent trip to Paris.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Audio from Paris
  • French Strike Over Retirement Age Increase
  • Breonna Taylor Investigation Report
  • The Fed and Interest Rates
  • Tucker Carlson, CPAC, and the Republican Circus
  • Outside of Politics: Our Trip to Paris

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We talk to Chelsea Devantez about the state of political comedy and its future.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the creeping fragility of democracy in Israel and Mexico as well as how the global community continues to deal with China's growing power.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Democratic Fragility in Israel and Mexico
  • Successes and Failures in Our Approach to China
  • Outside of Politics: How Old Do You Feel?

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Sarah and Beth the political calculus of Kevin McCarthy releasing January 6th footage to Tucker Carlson and the political memoir.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Speaker McCarthy Gives January 6th Footage to Tucker Carlson
  • The State of the Presidential Primary
  • Zibby Owens on Political Memoirs
  • Outside of Politics: Magic Mike Update

RESOURCES:

  • East Tennessee State University Festival of Ideas: Tuesday, February 28, 2023
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Sarah talks with Dr. Ethier about the latest CDC survey results on teen mental health. Then, she and her husband Nicholas talk about their recent family trip to Charlotte, NC.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • CDC Survey Results on Teen Mental Health with Dr. Kathleen Ethier
  • Outside of Politics: The Holland Trip to Charlotte

RESOURCES:

  • East Tennessee State University Festival of Ideas: Tuesday, February 28, 2023
  • Sarah and Beth live at the Abbey in Orlando for The Politics of the Most Magical Place on Earth: Wednesday, April 5, 2023, at 7 pm

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This weekend, President Biden took a secret trip to Kyiv. We will discuss this travel and then zoom in on Vice President Kamala Harris and the complicated role of the Vice President.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Political Travel Around the World
  • Vice President Kamala Harris
  • Outside of Politics: The Asbury Revival and Lent

RESOURCES:

  • East Tennessee State University Festival of Ideas: Tuesday, February 28, 2023
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We discuss shifting demographics around the world and what that means politically. We also talk about how we're feeling about Nikki Haley's run for the presidency.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Michigan State University Shooting
  • Nikki Haley’s Candidacy for President
  • Shifting Demographics
  • Outside of Politics: Birthdays and Celebrating Life

RESOURCES:

  • East Tennessee State University Festival of Ideas: Tuesday, February 28, 2023
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Sarah and Beth are joined by Callum Williams for a conversation about the increasing cost of healthcare around the world. But first, they talk about what is happening in the sky, and then, outside of politics, they talk about the Super Bowl

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The U.S. Shoots Down Additional Aerial Objects
  • The Cost of Healthcare with Callum Williams
  • Outside of Politics: The Super Bowl

RESOURCES:

  • East Tennessee State University Festival of Ideas: Tuesday, February 28, 2023
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Sarah and Beth reflect on Joe Biden's 2023 State of the Union address - what worked and what didn't for them. They also discuss why the Republican response from Governor Huckabee Sanders felt like it wasn't a response at all.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • Earthquake in Türkiye and Syria
  • The State of the Union
  • Outside of Politics: Maryville College

RESOURCES:

  • East Tennessee State University Festival of Ideas: Tuesday, February 28, 2023
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Sarah and Beth discuss the Chinese Surveillance Balloon. Next, Kenneth Vogel joins Sarah and Beth to talk about his reporting on sports betting and the intersection of the Supreme Court, Congress, State Governments, and lobbyists.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • Chinese Surveillance Balloon Over U.S. Airspace
  • Sports Betting with Ken Vogel
  • Outside Politics: Sabbath

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We talk to Sarah Longwell of The Bulwark about the looming presidential primaries and what the state of things is in both political parties.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Presidential Primary Season Approaches with Sarah Longwell
  • Outside of Politics: Busy Family Schedules

UPCOMING EVENTS:

  • Maryville College Witherspoon Lecture Series: February 7, 2023 at 7pm.
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Sarah and Beth discuss how technology is changing our lives and politics with Megan Garber from The Atlantic and sit with the horror of Tyre Nichols' murder in Memphis, TN.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Police Killing of Tyre Nichols
  • "We’re Already in the Metaverse" with Megan Garber
  • Outside Politics: Sarah’s Robert Burns Dinner

UPCOMING EVENTS:

  • Maryville College Witherspoon Lecture Series: February 7, 2023 at 7pm.
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We discuss humanitarian emergencies around the world as well as other news stories from the week.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Classified Documents
  • President Trump Returns to Facebook
  • Humanitarian Emergency Watchlist
  • Outside of Politics: Future Problem Solving

UPCOMING EVENTS:

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Sarah and Beth examine and reflect on positive paradigm shifts we see in the news.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Declining Alcohol Usage
  • The Growth of the Menopause Market
  • Rethinking Education
  • Accountability and Justice
  • Immigration
  • Political Polarization
  • Outside Politics: Planning 2023 Travel

UPCOMING EVENTS:

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  • Maryville College Witherspoon Lecture Series: February 7, 2023 at 7pm.
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Sarah and Beth address some breaking news stories before diving into the looming debt ceiling crisis and why it matters.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Jacinda Ardern’s Resignation
  • Alec Baldwin Charge of Involuntary Manslaughter
  • The Debt Ceiling
  • Outside of Politics: Funerals

UPCOMING EVENTS:

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  • Maryville College Witherspoon Lecture Series: February 7, 2023 at 7pm.
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Gabrielle Blaire joins Sarah and Beth to discuss the perimenopause and the politics of women's healthcare.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Politics of Perimenopause with Gabrielle Blaire

UPCOMING EVENTS:

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Sarah and Beth discuss the challenges and opportunities we face around information management, technical debt, and immigration. Plus, they share what it is about award-winning television show The White Lotus that keeps them riveted in a way other shows don't.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Classified Documents and Information Management
  • Good Economic News
  • Continued Flight Issues & Technical Debt
  • Biden’s New Tactic on Immigration
  • Outside of Politics: The White Lotus

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Sarah and Beth discuss creating community across division with Casper ter Kuile and the deep divisions in the US House of Representatives.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Kevin McCarthy’s Elected the 55th Speaker of the U.S. House of Representatives
  • The Power of Ritual with Casper ter Kuile
  • Outside Politics: Holiday Cards from Listeners

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Sarah and Beth discuss the seemingly endless deadlocked votes to elect a Speaker of the House of Representatives. Then, they share their wonderful conversation with Yair Rosenberg about the latest wave of antisemitism and why it's important to him to create joy through modern Jewish art.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The House Speakership Race Drama
  • Yair Rosenberg on Antisemitism and Creating Modern Jewish Art

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Sarah and Beth process and catch up on recent headlines from Hamlin to Santos to McCarthy to Zelensky.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Damar Hamlin Collapses at Bengals-Bills Game
  • Government Spending Package
  • Congressman Elect George Santos
  • House Speaker Vote
  • Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky Addresses Joint Session of Congress
  • Outside of Politics: Holiday Breaks

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We're looking back on the biggest news stories of 2022. In this episode, we are sharing some of the Premium content we released regarding the FBI's search of Mar-a-Lago and President Trump's ensuing legal battles.

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We're looking back on the biggest news stories of 2022. In this episode, we revisit some of our coverage of Dobbs decision, which overturned Roe v. Wade.

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We're looking back on the biggest news stories of 2022. In this episode, we revisit some of our coverage of the war in Ukraine.

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We're looking back on the biggest news stories of 2022. In this episode, we revisit some of our coverage of the January 6th hearings.

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As 2022 comes to a close, we are looking back our our predictions for the year, reflecting on the events that occurred, and looking ahead to 2023.

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Sarah and Beth discuss Senator Sinema leaving the Democratic Party, the Twitter files, the current wave of winter illness, and catch up on Western Kentucky tornado relief efforts.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Drama Dream Team
  • Western Kentucky Tornado Recovery with Liam Neimeyer
  • Outside of Politics: Holiday and End of Year Gatherings

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Sarah and Beth share good news stories from both home and abroad. They also address the complexities with which such stories sometimes come.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Good News in the US
  • Good News Around the World
  • Outside of Politics: Our Favorite TV of 2022

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Sarah and Beth discuss the Senate's actions to avert a railroad strike, the DNC Primary calendar, and the impact of emboldened extremists in the United States.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The DNC Shakes Up the Primary Calendar
  • Emboldened Extremists
  • Railroad Strike Averted
  • Outside of Politics: Holiday Traditions

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Sarah and Beth look at the "loneliness epidemic" and what, if any, role policy should play. They also discuss the Respect for Marriage Act and the joy they find in holiday cards.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Respect for Marriage Act
  • Loneliness
  • Outside of Politics: Holiday Cards

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Sarah and Beth look at instability in financial markets and countries across the globe.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Financial Markets
  • Haiti, Iran, and China
  • Outside Politics: Thanksgiving

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We’re revisiting our conversation with Dan Harris, who you may know from his previous role on weekend Good Morning America or his work with Ten Percent Happier, the book/app/podcast that teach the value of meditation and mindfulness.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the shooting in Colorado Springs, the new Special Master, COP 27, Naomi Biden's White House wedding, and the politics of Fast Fashion.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • News Roundup
  • Shooting at Club Q in Colorado Springs
  • DOJ appoints Special Master to oversee Trump Investigations
  • COP 27
  • The Politics of Fashion with Barrett Ward and Jen Milam
  • Outside of Politics: Naomi Biden’s White House Wedding

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Sarah and Beth offer suggestions about how to handle the dreaded political conversations over the holidays. Plus, they discuss Congressional leadership moves, the lame duck session, Trump's announcement, and share about their recent trip to Raleigh, NC.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Congressional Leadership
  • The Lame Duck Session
  • Trump’s Announcement
  • Handling Political Conversations at the Holidays
  • Outside of Politics: Our Raleigh Trip

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Today, Sarah and Beth share Sarah's experience with kanna in Colorado.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Waiting on Final Election Results while Twitter Falls Apart
  • Sarah Experiments with Psychedelics

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Sarah and Beth discuss the results of the 2022 midterm elections.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

Reflecting on 2022 Midterm Election Results

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Sarah and Beth discuss election security with Kentucky Secretary of State Michael Adams and think through how to engage in conversation with people who are not "political."

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Midterm Elections Conversations in Our Homes and Communities
  • Election Integrity with KY Secretary of State Michael Adams
  • Outside Politics: What Season are We Celebrating?

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Sarah and Beth reflect on 7 years of podcasting and what they've learned from their time together. Then, they talk with podcasting reporter Ashley Carman about the state of the industry as a whole.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • What We’ve Learned from Pantsuit Politics
  • The State of Podcasting with Ashley Carman
  • Your Beautiful Birthday Reflections

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Sarah and Beth discuss the impact of violent rhetoric and actual violence on the American political process.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • 1 Week until the Midterm Elections
  • The Attack on Paul Pelosi and a Climate of Political Violence
  • Outside of Politics: The Judds in Concert

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Sarah and Beth reflect on the last five years of the #MeToo movement.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Reflecting on Five Years of #MeToo
  • Outside of Politics: Halloween Candy

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Today we are thinking about ourselves as citizens of an interconnected world, what the economic turmoil in the UK and protests in Iran have to teach us as voters, and how we can best support people struggling to be freer across the world.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Lessons from the UK’s shortest serving Prime Minister
  • Protests in Iran with Kerry Boyd Anderson
  • Outside of Politics: Family Halloween Costumes

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As we near midterms, we're dismayed and baffled by the quality of some of the candidates running up and down the ballot. We're discussing how candidate quality has become such a major issue everywhere from school board races to Senate races. Plus, we're talking to Kentucky Supreme Court Justice Michelle Keller about her re-election campaign and the major way judicial ethics are showing up in it.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • School Boards and Kitty Litter
  • Candidate Quality and Concerns
  • Justice Michelle Keller on Judicial Ethics and Elections
  • Outside of Politics: Furniture

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We talk about our frustration with the midterm election season and Beth's solution: a ballot club to bring neighbors together around voting.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • Midterm Election Debate Season
  • Beth’s Ballot Club
  • Outside Politics: What’s in our Purse?

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We respond to the historic subpoena of former President Trump and the continued work of the January 6th committee.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • A Review of and Response to the October 13 Meeting of the January 6th Committee
  • Outside of Politics: Pantsuit Politics’ 7th Birthday Celebrations

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Sarah and Beth talk through the 2022 midterms and the ongoing influence of Donald Trump on American electoral politics.

  • Preparing for the 2022 Midterm Elections
  • The Ongoing Influence of Donald Trump
  • Outside Politics: Fall Fun

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The American political landscape has been undeniably impacted by American evangelicalism and its leaders. Few people know the details of this better than Kristin Kobes du Mez, who literally wrote the book on it (Jesus and John Wayne: How White Evangelicals Corrupted a Faith and Fractured a Nation). In this episode, she joins us for a conversation about evangelicals' political impact, the legacies of toxic masculinity and racism within the church, and how our current culture wars trace their roots to this messy mixing of church and state.

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Sarah and Beth discuss the hurdles facing Florida residents as recovery and rebuilding efforts begin in the wake of Hurricane Ian.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Centrism vs. Extremism Across the Globe
  • Florida’s Homeowners Insurance Crisis
  • Outside Politics: Pantsuit Politics goes to Oklahoma City

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Dr. Becky may be your favorite Instagram parenting expert, but this conversation is about so much more than parenting. We talked to Dr. Becky about human connection, communication, civic engagement, and the effects of being parented - something every one of us has experienced on some level or another. We promise this is a conversation you absolutely don't want to miss.

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Sarah and Beth recap the first eight January 6th Committee Hearings, review recent developments in the Committee's investigation, and preview what we can expect to see in Wednesday's final public hearing.

TOPICS DISCUSSED:

  • A Recap of the First Eight January 6th Committee Hearings
  • Developments Since the Last January 6th Hearing
  • Outside of Politics: Piano Lessons

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Sarah and Beth tackle the political and personal reality of a post-Dobbs America. They talk with Rachel Sweet, who is leading efforts around the Kentucky abortion referendum, and Gabrielle Blair, whose fresh perspective on male responsibility is a breath of fresh air in the discussion around abortion.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Political and Personal Stakes of Post-Dobbs America
  • Rachel Sweet & the Kentucky Abortion Referendum
  • Gabrielle Blair & Responsible Ejaculation

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Sarah and Beth discuss Republican Governor's strategy of sending asylum seekers to symbolic "blue" locations without coordinating with officials and the parole hearing of the Heath High School shooter.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Republican Governors in Texas, Arizona, and Florida send Asylum Seekers to “blue” cities
  • Parole Hearing for Heath High School Shooter
  • Outside Politics: Elvis

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We discuss the all-encompassing complexity surrounding teen mental health.

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Sarah and Beth discuss Ukraine's lightning counter-offensive over the weekend, the legacy of Queen Elizabeth II, and remnants of the British Empire.

TOPICS DISCUSSED* Ukraine Regains Lost Territory from Russia * The Death of Queen Elizabeth II * Outside Politics: Snacking Cake

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Sarah, Beth, and their middle schoolers discuss the pros and cons of school dress codes.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Our Kids’ Take on Dress Codes
  • Dress Codes, Freedom of Expression, and How Clothing Communicates
  • Outside of Politics: Don’t Worry, Darling

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Sarah and Beth discuss the quiet quitting, boundaries at work, and the challenges of naming.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Quiet Quitting
  • Outside Politics: What is Rest?

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In observance of Labor Day, we are rereleasing this episode from September 2019 about Labor Unions. In the intervening years, labor unions have only become more hotly discussed in the United States. We hope a return to these facts will be helpful for you as you think about the effect of unionized labor today.

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Sarah and Beth share their full conversation with Rick Steves about developing a global perspective through travel and so much more.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Travel as a Political Act with Rick Steves

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Sarah and Beth discuss the pros and cons of President Biden's Student Loan Relief policy, take a closer look at the affidavit that supported the warrant to search Mar-a-Lago, and outside politics they think about fun.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • DOJ Releases Redacted Affidavit for Mar-a-Lago Search Warrant
  • President Biden’s Student Loan Forgiveness Plan
  • Outside Politics: What is Fun?

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We are breaking down some basic facts about monkeypox - including what you should know as it continues to spread around the world.

  1. Monkeypox isn't novel.
  2. Monkeypox is not an STD.
  3. Monkeypox is now a global health emergency and a national emergency in the US.
  4. We already have vaccines!
  5. We don't know everything, and we probably aren't doing enough.

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We discuss whether or not Joe Biden should run for re-election in 2024 and what support for schools really looks like.

TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Should Joe Biden Run in 2024?
  • Supporting our Schools in 2022
  • Outside Politics: Parenting Middle Schoolers

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Ukraine Update
  • Tim Miller on the Republican Party
  • Outside of Politics: Into the Woods

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The FBI Investigates Donald Trump
  • Real Good News with Branden Harvey
  • Outside Politics: The National Lentil Festival

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Donald Trump’s Legal Woes
  • What is Social Media For?
  • Outside of Politics: Summer Lifesavers

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Progress in Congress
  • Catching Up on January 6th Hearings and International News
  • Outside Politics: Sarah and Beth’s July Break

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This year, our summer series centers around our new book, Now What?: How to Move Forward When We're Divided (About Basically Everything). We brought together groups of listeners who were on our book launch team to discuss how they’ve seen political conflict play out in their own lives. Over these episodes, we’ll share these conversations with you, along with some thoughts and strategies for how to navigate division in many different types of relationship.

In this final episode, we’re discussing workplaces and geographic communities. We may expect some conflict in these spaces, particularly if we live or work in diverse areas. However, expecting the division doesn’t make it any easier or less personal.

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Progress in Congress
  • Catching Up on January 6th Hearings and International News
  • Outside Politics: Sarah and Beth’s July Break

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This year, our summer series centers around our new book, Now What?: How to Move Forward When We're Divided (About Basically Everything). We brought together groups of listeners who were on our book launch team to discuss how they’ve seen political conflict play out in their own lives. Over these episodes, we’ll share these conversations with you, along with some thoughts and strategies for how to navigate division in many different types of relationship.

Today, we’re focusing political division within faith communities. These spaces are often meant to be a refuge, but can become the opposite when conflict takes a stronghold.

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We're interrupting our Summer Series to share a mailbag episode after the 7th and 8th January 6th Committee Hearings. Our listeners on Patreon and Instagram shared their questions about the January 6th Committee Hearings, what we can expect to happen next, and what accountability looks like - we're sharing our best answers with all of you today.

Topics Discussed:

  • Answering your Questions about the January 6th Hearings
  • Outside Politics: New Parenthood with Alise Napp

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This year, our summer series centers around our new book, Now What?: How to Move Forward When We're Divided (About Basically Everything). We brought together groups of listeners who were on our book launch team to discuss how they’ve seen political conflict play out in their own lives. Over these episodes, we’ll share these conversations with you, along with some thoughts and strategies for how to navigate division in many different types of relationship.

Today, we’re focusing on some of the closest relationships we have: romantic partnerships and friendships. Having conflict in your home or in your most vulnerable relationships feels scary and even threatening at times. We’re also often to sacrifice the most to sustain these relationships regardless.

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This year, our summer series centers around our new book, Now What?: How to Move Forward When We're Divided (About Basically Everything). We brought together groups of listeners who were on our book launch team to discuss how they’ve seen political conflict play out in their own lives. Over the next few weeks, we’ll share these conversations with you, along with some thoughts and strategies for how to navigate division in many different types of relationship.

Today, we’re focusing on families of origin: parents, siblings, aunts, uncles, cousins. We bring deep histories to these relationships which can complicate our political divisions even further.

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We’re sharing a bonus episode from our friends at Revisionist History, Malcolm Gladwell’s podcast about things misunderstood and overlooked. This season, Malcolm’s obsessed with experiments – natural experiments, scientific experiments, thought experiments. In this preview, we learn about Paul Madden, who ran the California Bureau of Narcotic Enforcement in the 1930s. He enacted an expensive, burdensome, annoying bit of bureaucratic anti-drug hysteria known as the “triplicate program” that made every doctor in the state miserable because it involved a lot of paperwork. But Madden insisted this kind of paperwork would save lives. Fast forward to the 90s and early 2000s, when opioids were being prescribed as painkillers at a rapid rate – and killing tens of thousands of Americans due to overdoses. The government looked to Madden’s triplicate program as a way of preventing the epidemic. A handful of states started their own triplicate prescription programs, but most ignored the warning signs. The result was a devastating natural experiment. You can hear more from Revisionist History at https://podcasts.pushkin.fm/rhs7?sid=pantsuit.

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Topics Discussed:

  • American Nations: The Coasts in Conversation with Felipe Fuentes (El Norte) and New York State Assemblywoman Linda Rosenthal (New Amsterdam)
  • Outside Politics: The Story of You with Ian Cron

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Topics Discussed:

  • Invisible Storm with Jason Kander
  • Outside Politics: Summer Reading with Sarah and Beth (their Summer Reads are all here)

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Topics Discussed:

  • A Surprise Hearing from the January 6th Committee
  • Reactions to the Hearing
  • Outside Politics: Succession Season 3

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Answering your Questions about the Overturn of Roe v. Wade
  • The Supreme Court is Broken
  • Outside Politics: Sarah Wants You to Protect Your Skin this Summer

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The Supreme Court Overturns Roe vs. Wade

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • January 6th Committee Hearing #4
  • January 6th Committee Hearing #5
  • Outside Politics: Parenting Kids at Summer Camp

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • The US Economy Enters a Bear Market
  • Well Spouse Association with Laurel Wittman
  • Outside Politics: Sarah and Beth share their love of concerts and Summer Camp

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Monday's January 6th Committee Hearing
  • Thursday's January 6th Committee Hearing
  • Outside Politics: Happy Birthday Ellen

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Day 2 of the January 6th Committee Hearings and the Bipartisan Gun Safety Framework
  • “It’s Your Friends Who Break Your Heart” with Jennifer Senior
  • Outside Politics: Beth goes to Sarah’s

UPCOMING EXCITING PROJECTS AT PANTSUIT POLITICS

  • The next January 6th Hearing will be Wednesday, June 15 at 10:00 AM. You can follow Sarah and Beth’s Public Calendar Here for Reminders and where to find Sarah and Beth’s coverage
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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Key Takeaways from the first January 6th Select Committee Hearing
  • Counter Narrative and Answering Your Questions
  • Outside Politics: Top Gun with Amy McGrath

UPCOMING EXCITING PROJECTS AT PANTSUIT POLITICS

  • The next January 6th Hearing will be Monday, January 13 at 10:00 AM. You can follow Sarah and Beth’s Public Calendar Here for Reminders and where to find Sarah and Beth’s coverage
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The Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol begins public hearings on Thursday, June 9 at 8 pm EDT. Every American deserves to know the truth of what happened that day. Today, we’re here to catch you up on what the committee has done so far and why these hearings are important to every American.

  1. The Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the US Capitol is Unconventional, but Bipartisan
  2. These Hearings Represent Months of Investigations and Interviews
  3. These Committee Hearings Will be Different From the Impeachment and Supreme Court Confirmation Hearings
  4. January 6th didn't begin or end on January 6th.
  5. We know it's hard, but this is important.

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  • Episode feedback: Uvalde, The Amber Heard and Johnny Depp Trial
  • Student Loan Forgiveness
  • Outside Politics: Happy Birthday Amos

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  • The Details in Uvalde are getting Worse and Worse
  • Systems and Structure for this phase of Covid
  • Outside Politics: How Sarah Plans Travel

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TOPICS DISCUSSED

  • Mass shootings and the hardening of American life
  • Outside Politics: End of the School Year

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Sarah and Beth are together to discuss the mass shooting of 19 children and 2 adults at Robb Elementary School on Good Morning.


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  • Primary Results in Pennsylvania and North Carolina
  • Sexual Ethics
  • Outside Politics: Amber Heard and Johnny Depp Defamation Trial

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  • The Baby Formula Shortage
  • 2022 Midterm Candidate Series: Congresswoman Haley Stevens
  • Outside Politics: Garth Brooks

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  • Shooting in Buffalo, New York
  • Moving Forward After Disaster with Becca Kello of Bowling Green, Kentucky
  • Outside Politics: Covid Still Sucks

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The Audiobook for Now What? will be out next Tuesday. We wanted to thank you for your enthusiastic support, celebrate getting our first 100 reviews, and the audiobook by giving you a sneak peak of the audio version!

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  • Ukraine Check In
  • Affordable Housing
  • Outside Politics: Coping with Summer

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  • Title 42 Immigration
  • DeSantis vs. Disney
  • Outside Politics: May is December 2.0

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  • Anticipating the Supreme Court overturning Roe vs. Wade
  • The Marshall Plan for Moms with Reshma Saujani
  • Outside Politics: Kim Kardashian wears the “Happy Birthday Mr. President” dress to the Met Gala

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We are sharing this morning's episode of Good Morning with everyone, where we grapple with the news from the Supreme Court and launch our book Now What? into the world.


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  • Fred Dews from the Brookings Institution interviews Sarah and Beth about their new book Now What? How to Move Forward When We’re Divided (About Basically Everything)
  • Outside Politics: Sarah and Beth reflect on their live show with Clint Harp in Waco

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  • Elon Musk Buys Twitter
  • Now What Candidate Series: Dr. Ashley Ward
  • Outside Politics: Succession (Season 2)

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  • Kentucky Legislative Session
  • Unionization across the US
  • Outside Politics: The Lost City

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  • Sarah’s Son was Diagnosed with Type 1 Diabetes
  • Feedback from Tuesday’s Episode
  • Outside Politics: Free Range Parenting and Climate Conscious Kids

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  • The Shooting of Patrick Lyoya and Devious Licks Follow Up
  • The Internet: A Chorus of 10,000 Voices
  • Outside Politics: Sarah and Beth Reflect on their Spring Breaks

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  • Sarah and Nicholas Discuss the Headlines
  • The State of the Democratic Party
  • Outside Politics: The Holland Family Goes to Utah

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  • Sarah and guest host Leslie discuss headlines from Ukraine to Elon Musk
  • Emily Ho on Size Inclusivity
  • Outside of Politics: Bachelor Nation

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  • Factions of the Republican Party
  • What does it mean to be a Republican Today?
  • Outside Politics: What are we watching for fun?

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  • Processing the overwhelming atrocities committed by Russians in Ukraine
  • Liuba Grechen Shirley and Josie Raymond from Vote Mama on the importance of Mom’s in office
  • Outside of Politics: Finding the bright corners of the internet with Erin Hicks Moon

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With gas prices still trending high, it felt like the right time for us to give you a long-requested conversation about electric vehicles and our experience with them.

  1. Electric vehicles have been in development for more than a century.
  2. Government-supported research and private innovation made practical mass-market EVs possible.
  3. Yes, EVs really are better for the environment than gas-powered vehicles.
  4. It's going to take some work to scale up EVs.
  5. Owning an EV requires manageable planning.

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  • That Moment at the Oscars
  • President Biden in Europe
  • The January 6th Committee
  • Now What? Politics in the Far West with Britt Raybould

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  • Commemorating Madeleine Albright
  • Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson Nomination Hearings
  • Bethany Allen-Ebrahimian on China’s Role in the Ukrainian War
  • Outside of Politics: The Oscars and Don’t Look Up

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  • Ketanji Brown Jackson Nomination
  • Ukrainian War
  • Federal Reserve & the Economy
  • Covid Check-In
  • Outside of Politics: Sleepovers

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  • Violence Escalates in Ukraine
  • Cyber Warfare with Klon Kitchen
  • Outside of Politics: Our Substitute Experiences

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  • Vibe Check
  • Kentucky Relief Update (with Jacob Ryan)
  • Outside of Politics: The Batman

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  • Russia’s war with Ukraine
  • The Price of Gas
  • Outside Politics: Succession (Season 1)

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Today, March 8, is International Women’s Day. In recognition, we are breaking down the history of the holiday and sharing our thoughts on how it is and perhaps should be recognized.

  1. The popular origin story of International Women's Day is more myth than fact.
  2. The real history of International Women's Day is that it began as a socialist holiday!
  3. International Women's Day helped spark the Russian Revolution!
  4. In the 1960s, second wave feminists adopted the day as their own.
  5. The 2022 theme is #BreaktheBias.

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  • A War of Terror in Ukraine
  • January 6 Committee
  • The State of the Union
  • Outside of Politics: Beth’s Birthday

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  • Lightning Round: State Laws, CDC Guidelines, Judge Kentanji Brown-Jackson
  • Ukraine Update
  • Now What? Candidate Series: Melody Bray

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  • Russia Invades Ukraine
  • Rachel Vindman
  • Talking to Our Kids About Ukraine

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  • What’s going on in Ukraine and why you should care
  • Distinguishing the interesting from the important with David Leonhardt
  • Outside of Politics: What’s saving our lives right now?

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  • The National Guard with LTC Stephen Martin
  • Outside of Politics: Sibling Conflict

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  • The State of the Republican Party
  • PPP Loans
  • Outside of Politics: Disproportionate Stress Responses

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  • Brian Flores sues the NFL
  • The 2022 Winter Olympics
  • Outside of Politics: Valentine's Day

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We’re talking to Lisa Sharon Harper about her new book, Fortune: How Race Broke My Family and the World - and How to Repair It All, which comes out today. The book is about Lisa's journey to trace her ancestry, recover the beauty of her heritage, expose the brokenness that race has wrought in America, and cast a vision for a collective repair.

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  • The Spotify / Joe Rogan Situation
  • Alcohol Use in America
  • Outside of Politics: Pelvic Floor Therapy

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Inflation has been poking its way into our lives lately - on the political scene and as we swipe our credit cards in the check-out line. We’re breaking down the basics you need to know about inflation and how it works.

  1. Inflation is about a loss of money's purchasing power.
  2. Inflation is hard to measure.
  3. Our cost of living is rising; experts disagree about whether this is a long-term inflation problem.
  4. Central banks are entering the chat; we will probably see higher interest rates.
  5. Monetary policy is not science or magic.

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  • Election Reform Legislation in Congress
  • The Greater Appalachia Region (with Kelly Krout)
  • Outside of Politics: Sarah’s Mother-Son Book Club

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  • Ukraine, Russia, & Managing Global Pressure
  • The State of the Democratic Party
  • Outside of Politics: Our New Jobs

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  • What’s Up With Vice President Harris?
  • One Year of President Biden
  • Outside of Politics: Wordle

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  • American Regions with Colin Woodard
  • Congressional Redistricting
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We're breaking down what you need to know about the history of Martin Luther King Jr. Day and how it became a holiday in the first place. Spoiler: it wasn't an easy road.

  1. Martin Luther King, Jr.'s birthday is January 15th but the holiday is marked on the third Monday of every month.
  2. The effort to make his birthday a national holiday took over three decades and an enormous amount of effort.
  3. Stevie Wonder's Happy Birthday is about Martin Luther King, Jr!
  4. The law passed in 1983 and signed by Reagan. The first federal holiday was in 1986.
  5. The journey to all 50 states adopting the holiday took much longer.

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  • Our News Recommendations
  • Living in Transformative Times
  • Outside of Politics: Updating Space

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We’re discussing the one-year anniversary of the January 6 insurrection and siege on the Capitol. We reflect on what that day meant, the people who were involved, and what has happened since. We also talk again with Olivia Beavers of Politico, who was reporting from inside the Capitol that day.

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  • Louisville, Colorado Fire
  • Mayfield, Kentucky Update
  • Covid-19 Omicron Update
  • Outside of Politics: Holiday Activities

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  • What to Expect from Pantsuit Politics in 2022
  • Sarah and Beth’s Political Resolutions for the New Year
  • Outside of Politics: Our Words of the Year

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  • How do you wrap up your year?
  • Setting goals, resolutions, and intentions for the New Year

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  • Beth’s Favorite A Block: Corporations and Political Speech
  • Sarah’s Favorite B Block: Masks, Abortion and Bodily Autonomy
  • Maggie and Alise’s Favorite Conversation Outside of Politics: Olivia Rodrigo’s Album Sour

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  • How’d that hold up? Reflecting On Our 2021 Political Resolutions
  • What our 2021 Resolutions give us to think about in 2022

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Western Kentucky Update

  • The Legislative Branch:
  • Debt Ceiling Crisis Averted
  • January 6 Investigative Commission
  • Joe Manchin

The Executive Branch: Our Approach to Covid

The Judicial Branch: Texas’s Abortion Law & California’s Gun Law

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  • Elon Musk, Person of the Year
  • The Duggar Trial
  • Succession
  • Ben Affleck

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  • Our Personal Experiences with the Tornadoes
  • Assessing the Damage of Natural Disaster
  • Outside of Politics: Living in a Split Screen

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  • One Year with a Covid-19 Vaccine
  • The Global Refugee Crisis (with Denise Bell)
  • Outside of Politics: End of the Year Giving

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In honor of Veterans Day, we’re breaking down what you need to know about the Department of Veterans Affairs.

  1. The Federal Reserve System is the central bank of the United States and the most powerful financial institution in the world.
  2. The Federal Reserve is the result of compromise.
  3. The Federal Reserve is the US government’s bank.
  4. The Federal Reserve is also the banks’ bank.
  5. The Federal Reserve has our best tools to confront inflation.

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  • SCOTUS Takes On Abortion
  • Celebrity Book Club
  • Outside of Politics: Teacher Gifts

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  • Omicron Covid-19 Strain
  • Exploring Status with David French
  • Outside of Politics: TikTok

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In a continuation of our conversation from Tuesday's episode, we are exploring the history of the anti-vax movement and the places where it has connections to QAnon and the wellness industry.

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  • Sarah and Beth’s Personal Journey with Wellness Culture
  • How did we get here? The history of "Wellness Culture" in the US and its social, religious, racial and class significance
  • Outside of Politics: Sad Girl Autumn - Red (Taylor’s Version) and 30

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  • Book Banning in Schools
  • Vaccinating Children (with Dr. Amanda Dropic)
  • Outside of Politics: The Eternals and Dune

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  • The Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill (with Adie Tomer)
  • Outside of Politics: Sports & The University of Alabama

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In honor of Veterans Day, we’re breaking down what you need to know about the Department of Veterans Affairs.

  1. We've had a system for assisting Veterans longer than we've had a Constitution.
  2. Today, the Department of Veterans Affairs has 4 missions.
  3. VA is enormous.
  4. VA does some amazing work, and it also needs a lot of investment.
  5. Veterans need more than America is currently giving.

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  • Struggling With the Good News Cycle
  • CASA Work (with Stephanie Moss)
  • Outside of Politics: Chris Pratt and Celebrity Accountability

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  • 2021 Election Results
  • Daylight Saving Time and #LockTheClock
  • Outside of Politics: When Does the Holiday Season Start?

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  • Healthy Midterm Election Behavior
  • Advocating for Workplace Change with Gretchen Carlson
  • Outside of Politics: All Saints Day

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  • Donald Trump’s Social Media
  • Hot Takes That Haunt Us
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  • The Pandora Papers
  • Outside of Politics: Adult Halloween Costumes

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  • Understanding the Unvaccinated
  • The Attraction and Reality of Multi-Level Marketing
  • Outside of Politics: Group Texts

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  • Donald Trump, News, and Media Coverage of Politics
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  • Outside of Politics: Weaponized Incompetence

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  • The Debt Ceiling & Mitch McConnell
  • Kids & Social Media
  • Outside of Politics: Ted Lasso

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We’re breaking down what you need to know about Section 230.

  1. We've been protecting content distributors from liability WAY before there was an internet.
  2. Section 230 functions as both a sword and shield and neutrality is not required.
  3. Changes to Section 230 would never be easy but the size of the tech giants now make any reform even more difficult.
  4. Europe is working on their own framework.
  5. Regulating the internet is difficult and Section 230 is not our only tool.

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  • Continuing to Process January 6
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  • Congressional Votes: Reconciliation, Infrastructure, and the Debt Ceiling
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  • Congress’s busy week: Raising the debt ceiling, Funding the Government, and the future of the Bipartisan Infrastructure Bill
  • The German Election (with Ali Cain)
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We’re breaking down what you need to know about parliamentary systems around the world.

  1. Parliamentary systems have a long history that spans the globe.
  2. The key feature of a parliamentary system: the legislature is supreme!
  3. Parliamentary systems depend on strong parties and accountability.
  4. Like all systems, parliamentary systems have pros and cons.
  5. In the US, we don't have a parliamentary system, but Congress acts like we do.

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  • Biden’s Foreign Policy Problems
  • The College Gender Gap
  • The Professionalization of Kids’ Activities
  • Outside of Politics: The Eyes of Tammy Faye

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  • California Recall Election
  • Enduring Impacts of Reagan’s Presidency
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  • Understanding the Post-9/11 Generation (with Dr. Karla Vermeulen)
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We return to our 2018 series on September 11, 2001 to mark the 20th anniversary of the deadly attacks.

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  • Afghan Refugee Resettlement
  • Masks, Abortion, and Bodily Autonomy
  • Outside of Politics: Adult Friendships

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  • Local Advocacy with Nikki Zellner
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  • Hurricanes, Explosions, and a Wall of Hard Things
  • Local Civics & Placemaking with Ryan Salzman
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  • Outside of Politics: Planners & Productivity

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  • Afghanistan
  • Process, Strategy, and Sunshine Laws
  • Outside of Politics: Rooting for Friends

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  • The Great Resignation
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We've talked water, electricity, and transportation, but today's final episode of our Infrastructure In Real Life series is about the 21st century infrastructures that are still emerging. ⁠

⁠We spoke to Dr. Nicol Turner-Lee, Adie Tomer, and Kathryn de Wit about broadband and how vital it is for communities to have high-speed access. We also spoke to Savitha Moorthy and Anne Helen Petersen about why dependable childcare is essential to our economy and how we should be supporting both parents and childcare workers better. ⁠

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Our Infrastructure In Real Life series continues down the road with its third installment today. We're talking transportation! ⁠

Even though America is a very car-centric country, we're not limiting our conversation to transportation with wheels. Plus, we talk about why infrastructure projects are just so dang expensive and what that means for the innovating in this space.⁠

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When the power goes out, it's like a record scratching and pushing our normal lives into a weird pause. For most of us, we take for granted the predictability and reliability of our power supply. We count on the infrastructure that brings us energy, but that system needs attention. ⁠

⁠On this, the second episode of our Infrastructure In Real Life series, we're talking about energy, climate, jobs, and the politics of how these things intersect. We're sharing more insight from our Brookings Institute friends and can't wait to hear what you think, too. ⁠⁠

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It's here! Today is the first day of our Infrastructure In Real Life series! ⁠

We're talking about water - drinking water, waste water, storm water. How it gets where we want it and how we keep it safe and clean. We spoke to local experts like Dr. Crystal Tulley-Cordova of the Navajo Nation and John Hodges of Paducah, KY. We also talked to Adie Tomer and Joseph Kane from the Brookings Institute to get a big-picture perspective on how water infrastructure works. ⁠

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While we're on break, we're sharing a special sneak peek at our Premium content. This is a compilation episode featuring four episodes of the Nightly Nuance on nuclear power that we aired for subscribers earlier this year. If you like what you hear, make sure to check out our Patreon page or click here for our Premium content on Apple Podcasts Subscriptions.

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  • Live Show Announcement
  • Bill Cosby Release
  • The Supreme Court and Voting Rights
  • Infrastructure Negotiations
  • Boundaries and Business
  • Outside of Politics: Our July Plans

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  • Surfside Condominium Collapse
  • Unmarked Graves Discovered at Canadian School
  • Moment of Hope: Vaccine Effectiveness & CRISPR
  • Paul Krugman
  • Outside of Politics: People Being Jerks

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  • The Supreme Court Rules on the NCAA and Cheerleading
  • Rights for Trans Children
  • Outside of Politics: Britney Spears

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We discuss the New York mayoral race, some decisions the Supreme Court has been making about religious liberties, and share some reflections from our time together last week.

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We cover the Bidens trip to Europe, share a conversation with historian Jon Grinspan about his new book, and reflect on our own relationships with our fathers.

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  • Leak Investigation
  • Moment of Hope: Novavax Vaccine
  • Critical Race Theory
  • Outside of Politics: The Arrogance of Age

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  • Travels of President Biden and Vice President Harris
  • Kids & Covid with Jessica Malaty Rivera
  • Outside of Politics: Advice for Your 30s

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  • Voting Rights
  • Trump Returns to Public Speaking
  • Pandemic Parenting with Julia Edelstein
  • Outside of Politics: Marital Conflict

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  • Celebrating Pandemic Progress
  • The Republican Party
  • Olivia Rodrigo’s Sour

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We were honored to talk to Jason Kander, veteran of both military and public service. Jason served in Afghanistan before coming home to run for office and make national headlines for his work and vulnerability. These days, he is working to support veterans, ensure equitable voting access, and hosting his own podcast, Majority 54.

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  • San Jose Shooting
  • Origins of the Covid-19 Virus
  • Susan Page on Nancy Pelosi
  • Outside of Politics: Re-entering the Workforce

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  • Changes in Policing
  • Moment of Hope: Ceasefire
  • Lisa Sharon Harper
  • Outside of Politics: Summer Parenting

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  • A’shanti Gholar & Jennifer Carroll Foy
  • Anne Helen Petersen on Teacher Appreciation Week
  • Outside of Politics: Instagram

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  • Being Met Where You Are
  • CDC Guidance & Risk Assessment
  • Moment of Hope: The Future of the Flu
  • Kerry Anderson on Israel & Palestine
  • Outside of Politics: The Value of Noise

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  • Israel and Palestine
  • Moment of Hope: Progress Against the Pandemic
  • International Vaccine Experiences
  • Outside of Politics: Vaccine Etiquette

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  • State of the Economy
  • Moment of Hope: Pardons of Misdemeanor Marijuana Convictions
  • Disinformation with Jane Lytvynenko
  • Outside of Politics: Mother’s Day

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We talk about the pandemic, mask wearing, “wokeness,” Trump, and how we process trauma. This is a hard conversation, but one that comes from a place of deep care. We know everyone will find something to disagree with here, but we hope you are challenged and encouraged, too.

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  • Corporations and Political Speech
  • Leadership Within the Republican Party
  • Moment of Hope: School Lunches
  • Katye Riselli on the Role of Political Spouses
  • The Kentucky Derby

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  • President Biden’s Joint Address
  • 100 Days into the Biden Administration
  • Outside of Politics: Adult Friendships

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  • Covid-19 in India
  • Moment of Hope: Malaria Vaccine
  • DC Statehood (with Meagan Hatcher-Mays)
  • Outside of Politics: Health and Wellness

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  • Derek Chauvin Verdict
  • Ma'Khia Bryant Shooting & Policing Reform
  • Moment of Hope: Earth Day & Climate Progress
  • Niala Boodhoo
  • Outside of Politics: Languishing

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  • Mass Shootings and Gun Violence
  • Moment of Hope: Troops Leaving Afghanistan
  • Police Violence
  • Outside of Politics

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  • Derek Chauvin Trial & Daunte Wright Shooting
  • Troop Removal from Afghanistan
  • Nicholas Holland’s Politics
  • National Parks
  • Outside of Politics: Jimmy Buffett

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  • A Pandemic in Your 20s
  • Laura Tremaine
  • Outside of Politics

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  • Cryptocurrency & Blockchain
  • Kentucky Department of Corrections Blunder
  • The Fairness Doctrine
  • Beth and Chad on Disagreement
  • Outside of Politics

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  • Capitol Police Attack
  • Voting Laws & Economic Repercussions
  • Moment of Hope: LADD Inc.
  • Cryptocurrency & NFTs
  • Outside of Politics

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  • Derek Chauvin Trial
  • Breaking Down Vaccine Hesitancy

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  • Transgender Day of Visibility
  • Gun Violence and Reform in America
  • Georgia Voting Law
  • Western Asia Dynamics (with Kerry Boyd Anderson)
  • Outside of Politics: Family Dynamics

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  • Boulder Shooting Victims
  • Five Things You Need to Know About the Upcoming Amazon Union Vote
  • The effort to unionize an Amazon plant is happening in Bessemer, Alabama.
  • Workers at BHM1 say that a union is sorely needed.
  • The unionization effort has deep roots and high profile support.
  • Amazon opposes the union campaign.
  • Workers at BHM1 have until March 29 to vote on whether to unionize.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Atlanta Spa Shootings
  • Immigration Surge
  • Moment of Hope: Low-Income Water and Sewer Investments
  • Rep. Jim Himes
  • Outside of Politics: Mara’s Career Shift

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  • Atlanta Spa Shootings
  • Derek Lowe & the Covid-19 Vaccine
  • Outside of Politics: Daylight Saving Time

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Topics Discussed:

  • Breonna Taylor Anniversary
  • Moment of Hope: Covid-19 Vaccination Update
  • Dr. Karla Vermeulen
  • Outside of Politics: Courtney Martin

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Pandemic Anniversary
  • Vaccination Rates
  • New State Voting Legislation
  • HR1
  • Outside of Politics: Sarah’s Hips

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Topics Discussed:

  • Derek Chauvin Trial
  • The American Rescue Plan
  • Dr. Seuss and the Republican Party
  • Moment of Hope: Proxy Voting
  • Governor Cuomo, #MeToo, and Power
  • Harry, Meghan, Oprah, and the British Royal Family
  • Outside of Politics: WandaVision

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  • The Equality Act
  • Moment of Hope
  • Immigration Policy
  • Outside of Politics: Beth's Birthday

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Vaccine Updates
  • Military Force Used in Syria
  • American Rescue Plan
  • Moment of Hope: Virginia Abolishes the Death Penalty
  • Sharon McMahon
  • Outside of Politics: Bedtime Routines with Partners

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  • Stories from Texas and Infrastructure Needs
  • Moment of Hope: Vaccinations
  • Earmarks and the Federal Budget

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Topics Discussed:

  • The American Rescue Plan & Senate Procedure
  • Moment of Hope: Gender Policy Council
  • Amy McGrath & Military Culture
  • Outside of Politics: Boudoir Photos

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Topics Discussed:

  • The Disaster in Texas
  • Moment of Hope: Local Leadership
  • Child Tax Credit Proposals
  • Outside of Politics: Sharing Journals with Children

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Topics Discussed:

  • The Acquittal of Donald J. Trump
  • The 117th Congress and Processing January 6th (with Olivia Beavers)
  • Outside of Politics: Revenge Bedtime

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Topics Discussed:

  • The Senate Impeachment Trial
  • Moment of Hope: Covid-19 Decline
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Trump’s Second Impeachment Trial
  • The Coup in Myanmar
  • Moment of Hope: The Momnibus (Black Maternal Health Package)
  • The Deplatforming of Donald Trump
  • Social Media and Free Speech
  • Defamation Lawsuits Over Election Fraud Claims
  • Outside of Politics: Framing Britney Spears

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Topics Discussed:

  • The State of Foreign Policy
  • Russia, Putin, and Alexei Navalny
  • Moment of Hope: Sonceria “Ann” Berry, Secretary of the Senate
  • China, Myanmar, Taiwan, Hong Kong
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Relief Proposals, Bipartisanship, and Unity
  • Stock Market Definitions and Explanations
  • GameStop & Robinhood
  • Moment of Hope: Black Women Entrepreneurs
  • Economics, Democratization, and Populism
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Keystone XL Pipeline
  • Transgender Athletes
  • Moment of Hope: Ending Private Prison Contracts
  • The Biden Administration
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Processing All the Anger
  • Moment of Hope: Vaccine Assistance
  • Biden’s Immigration Proposal
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Our Inaugural Feelings
  • Moment of Hope: Republicans and Biden
  • Inauguration Fashion
  • Reflecting on the Inauguration
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • The Particulars of Impeachment
  • Moment of Hope
  • Public Reaction to Impeachment
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • The Particulars of Impeachment
  • Moment of Hope
  • Public Reaction to Impeachment
  • Outside of Politics

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As we continue to learn more about the deadly intent of the domestic terrorists who stormed the Capitol last Wednesday, Sarah and Beth share what we know so far and what it means for the future of our country.

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Sarah and Beth share their thoughts on the attempted coup by violent domestic terrorists who stormed the Capitol building in Washington, D.C. They discuss the sense of entitlement amongst some Americans, the needed consequences of yesterday's actions, and where we go from here.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Lightning Round News Update
  • Our 2021 Political Resolutions
  • Moment of Hope
  • Covid-19 Relief Bill & National Defense Authorization Act
  • Nancy Pelosi, Speaker of the House Election
  • Certification of the Election Results
  • Trump Call to Brad Raffensperger
  • Covid-19 Vaccine Rollout
  • Russian Infrastructure Hack
  • Brexit Deal
  • Outside of Politics

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This year has held so much. Before we move into 2021, we wanted to hold space to reflect on the multitudes 2020 has contained. We will carry the lessons and scars of this year long into the future, so it felt worthy to take time to consider those and how this year has changed us.

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When we asked for your AUA questions, you delivered! We received well over 100 questions from you all. We can’t answer them all in one episode, but we’re answering as many as we can. We’ll answer more on Patreon and on Instragram, so make sure you are with us in those spaces.

For today’s show, though, we’re answer questions about our families, our beauty routines, food, jobs, dreams, travel, and the Free Brittany movement. It’s quite the range.

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As Covid-19 vaccines begin to roll out around the world, we talk to Johns Hopkins epidemiologist Dr. Chris Beyrer about how these vaccines were developed.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Vaccine
  • Educational Outcomes & Inequalities
  • Moment of Hope: Marijuana Opportunity Reinvestment and Expungement Act
  • Evaluating Money in Politics with Tiffany Bond
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Spread and Processing
  • Federal Budget and Potential Shutdown
  • Republican Women in Leadership
  • The Dregs of Trump

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Topics Discussed:

  • The Future of Trumpism
  • Mohsen Fakhrizadeh Assassination
  • Biden-Harris Transition & Staffing
  • Religious Liberty and Covid-19
  • Outside of Politics

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In a special holiday week episode, we're sharing a wide-ranging conversation between Sarah and author and blogger Kristen Howerton. Kristen shares her experience with transracial adoption and how not everyone has the same work to do when it comes to racism. They also discuss processing trauma in faith communities, confirmation bias, and why certain people seem especially susceptible to conspiracy theories.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Election Lawsuit Updates
  • Biden Transition Updates
  • Covid-19 Vaccine Updates
  • Thinking Differently About the Holidays
  • Moment of Hope: KY Hopeful Paws Rescue
  • Gifting the News: Our Holiday Gift Guide
  • Outside of Politics

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After a brief check-in on the rising wave of Covid-19 cases, we talk to Dan Harris, who you may know from weekend Good Morning America or Ten Percent Happier, the book/app/podcast that teach the value of meditation and mindfulness.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Surge & Vaccines
  • Lisa Marie Montgomery Case
  • Moment of Hope: NASA & SpaceX
  • Election Update & Electoral College
  • Outside of Politics

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We break down the history of the Electoral College, the original intent behind it, and how it has shaped presidential elections.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Update & Potential Vaccine
  • Election Results & Lawsuits
  • Moment of Hope: Dave Chappelle
  • Our Reflections on the Election
  • Outside of Politics

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Recorded on late Thursday afternoon, we discuss our reactions to the election, what the polarization of the race says about America, and what will come next.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Update
  • Living with Uncertainty
  • Phillip Walton - American Hostage in Niger
  • Election Day Plans
  • Paths to Victory
  • Election Gratitude
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Hurricane Zeta
  • Amy Coney Barrett Confirmation
  • SCOTUS Decisions on Elections and Voting
  • Polls and Predictions
  • Covid-19 Update

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Updates
  • Supreme Court Confirmation
  • Moment of Hope: A’shanti Gholar (Emerge)
  • Why Biden?
  • Outside of Politics

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We discuss the issues on state ballots across the country. Ever wondered about specific initiatives, constitutional amendments, and referendums? This episode is for you!

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Topics Discussed:

  • Final Presidential Debate
  • Disinformation and the NY Post Story
  • Governor Whitmer's Response to Threats
  • Moment of Hope: (dis)connected Short Film
  • Prognostications and Polls
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Amy Coney Barrett Confirmation Hearings
  • Bush v. Gore
  • The Future of the Supreme Court

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Topics Discussed:

  • ThisIsWhy Post Responses

  • Abortion and Political Shifts
  • Matthew Shepard Anniversary
  • Moment of Hope
  • Susan Page on the VP Debate
  • Outside of Politics

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We were thrilled to talk with Senator Elizabeth Warren this week. We chatted about how to respond when people accuse Democrats of being socialist, why childcare and caregiving in general are such important pieces of economic success, and why you - yes, you! - give her hope to keep at the work of democracy.

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Topics Discussed:

  • President Trump's Health
  • Federal Leadership Around Covid-19
  • Breonna Taylor's Case
  • Moment of Positivity with Celeste Williams
  • Disagreeing on Abortion
  • Disagreeing on Guns
  • Outside of Politics

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We share our reactions to the first presidential debate which was....um...messy, to say the least. We talk about why we think it went down the way it did, the moments that stood out to us, what it can tell us about the state of the race, and what is giving us hope in the face of it all.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Amy Coney Barrett
  • Moment of Positivity
  • Donald Trump's Taxes
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Update on Beth's Mom
  • Breonna Taylor Decision
  • Protecting Democracy
  • Work and Burnout with Anne Helen Petersen

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Topics Discussed:

  • Beth's Family Update
  • Ruth Bader Ginsburg
  • Gender Roles and the Pandemic
  • Outside of Politics

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We watched The Social Dilemma on Netflix and it brought up all kinds of thoughts and feelings for us about social media. We tease apart some of those thoughts and what the government's role should or shouldn't be when it comes to social media.

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Topics Discussed:

  • It's Ok That We're Not Ok
  • Wildfires and Climate Change
  • Police Shooting in Los Angeles
  • Schools and Covid-19
  • Alabama Voting Options
  • Moment of Positivity
  • Election Interference
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • World Suicide Prevention Day
  • September 11 Anniversary
  • West Coast Wildfires
  • Leadership in a Crisis
  • Bob Woodward Book
  • Brian Murphy - Homeland Security Department Whistleblower
  • Trump Flotillas and Caravans
  • Department of Justice & E. Jean Carroll Lawsuit
  • Voting Resources
  • Trump's Positive Achievements
  • Talking to Trump Supporters

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid and Colleges
  • Moment of Positivity
  • Americans with Disabilities
  • Outside of Politics

Many thanks to our guests:

  • Mary Sue Welch, President of All Blind Children of Texas
  • Jennie Spotila, Occupy M.E. and Twitter
  • Nina Coyle, Vanderbilt Kennedy Center
  • Angie Ferguson

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In honor of the 30th anniversary of the American Disabilities Act (ADA), we break down five things you need to know about this historic legislation. On Tuesday, we'll be back with our thoughts and shared experiences from people directly affected by this law.

  1. It took decades of thousands of people working locally to pass the ADA
  2. Defining "disability" under the ADA is very fact-intensive
  3. The ADA helped bring about massive changes
  4. But we have a long way to go.
  5. There are many ways you can work toward disability justice.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Hurricane Laura
  • Portland Shooting & Escalating Political Tensions
  • Are We Still Bipartisan?
  • Covid-19 Wastewater Testing
  • 2020 Senate Races to Watch
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Hurricane Laura
  • Kenosha, Wisconsin Protests and Killings
  • Republican National Convention
  • Cancel Culture

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Topics Discussed:

  • California Wildfires (with Jessica Morse)
  • Jacob Blake and Trayford Pellerin
  • 100th Anniversary of Women's Suffrage
  • GOP and Democratic Party Platforms
  • Outside of Politics

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Recorded on Thursday morning before the final night of programming, we reflect on the highs and lows of the Democratic National Convention.

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Topics Discussed:

  • DNC Convention
  • United States Postal Service
  • Covid-19 and Healthcare Workers
  • 100th Anniversary of Women's Suffrage
  • Outside of Politics

Many thanks to Ellen Goodman and Lynn Sherr of the She Votes podcast and Dr. Bettye Collier-Thomas for sharing their wisdom and expertise with us.

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We’re reviewing Kamala Harris’s history and sharing our thoughts about her groundbreaking role on the Democratic party ticket.

  1. The child of immigrants, Kamala Harris was particularly influenced by her mother.
  2. This is not the first time Kamala Harris has made history.
  3. Kamala Harris spent most of her career as a prosecutor.
  4. Kamala Harris has had a long history of electoral success.
  5. Kamala Harris is a centrist and pragmatist.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Numbers
  • Trump and Executive Orders
  • Hong Kong and American Foreign Policy
  • Belarus Election
  • 100th Anniversary of Women’s Suffrage
  • Conspiracies Theories (with Mike Rothschild)
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • Beirut Explosion and Government Regulations
  • Covid-19 Relief
  • NRA Lawsuit
  • Great American Outdoors Act
  • 100th Anniversary of Women’s Suffrage
  • Axios Interview, Mary Trump’s Book, and the Psychology of Donald Trump

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Topics Discussed:

  • Vice Presidential Pick
  • Tik Tok
  • Conspiracy Theories
  • 100th Anniversary of Women’s Suffrage
  • American Response to Covid-19

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In the final installment of our How To Be A Citizen series, we look ahead to potential election reforms and what the next steps of citizenship might look like for you.

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In the third installment of our How To Be A Citizen series, we talk about getting trustworthy information in a saturated news landscape. We discuss media literacy and how to find information about who and what is on your local ballot.

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In the second installment of our How To Be A Citizen series, we get philosophical about our role as citizens of this country. We examine the foundations of citizenship in American and what it means to be a citizen in 2020.

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In the first installment of our How To Be A Citizen series, we discuss how we got here in the first place. We talk about the origins of our democracy, the structure through which it operates, and the process of voting.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Reporting Covid-19 Data
  • Wayfair Conspiracy Theory
  • Overt Racism in America (Karens Gone Wild)
  • Protester Arrests in Kentucky
  • Federal Death Penalty
  • The Future of the Republican Party (with Mark McKinnon and Tim Miller)

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As decisions about returning to school are being made around the country, we are devoting this entire episode to the topic of education. We hear from women across the spectrum of education policy and practice about the biggest problems in education and how we should be thinking about fall.

Thank you to our amazing guests for sharing their thoughts and expertise about education:

  • Julie Bogart of Brave Writer
  • Lt. Governor Jacqueline Coleman
  • September Gerety
  • Kate Lambert
  • Grace Loughead
  • Ginny Walters

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Sarah and Beth talk about the final Supreme Court decisions in this term and why we are asking too much of the Court right now. They also discuss the political drama surrounding decisions being made about reopening schools in the fall.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Flooding in Japan
  • Private Vanessa Guillen
  • Russia and Putin
  • Reproductive Rights and SCOTUS
  • Patriotism and July 4th
  • Removing Statues
  • Cancel Culture
  • Outside of Politics

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Today's show is the 500th one we've launched into the world. It's been an incredible journey and we can't wait to see what comes next. ⁠We're celebrating by sharing some of our favorite moments and messages from some friends of the show.

Don't forget to share your stories, memories, favorite moments, and more with #PantsuitPolitics500.⁠ Cheers to you all, because we never would've come this far without you.⁠

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Topics Discussed:

  • Russia Targets American Troops in Afghanistan
  • SCOTUS Abortion Decision
  • Covid As An Accelerant
  • Outside of Politics

Thanks so much to Marisa Pyle, Hal Connolly, Lt. Governor Jacqueline Coleman of Kentucky, Amanda Melton, and Janice Elliott for giving their time and expertise to our community.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Elijah McClain
  • Policing Reform Bill
  • Covid-19 Coverage
  • Individualism vs. Collectivism
  • The Kentucky Senate Primary
  • Presidential Polling
  • Party Conventions

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Topics Discussed:

  • Geoffrey Berman Firing
  • Reading Stabbing Attack
  • Conflict Between China and India
  • North Korea Destroys Embassy
  • John Bolton
  • Rosemary Ketchum
  • Trump Tulsa Rally
  • Veepstakes
  • Kentucky Senate Primary
  • Hope

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Juneteenth is the oldest national commemoration of the end of slavery in the United States. Today, it celebrates African American freedom and achievement. We're breaking down a few of the facts about Juneteenth that you should know as you celebrate today.

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Several of our listeners have asked us to discuss our views on American obstetrics and birth. Today, we start that conversation and discuss the impact of U.S. birth practices on health care costs and gender equality. In the Pearls, we talk about Congress's efforts to combat the heroin epidemic and the legalization of marijuana. We also discuss the Obama administration's guidance to schools on restroom access. Finally, in the Heels, we go full MOM and discuss minivans vs. SUVs. 

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Topics Discussed:

  • Rayshard Brooks Death
  • Changes in Policing
  • LGBTQ Policy and Rights
  • Covid-19 Working Stories
  • Outside of Politics

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We talk with local activists who are stepping up in their hometowns as well as journalist Anne Helen Petersen about why small town protests matter.

Many thanks to the local activists who joined us today:

  • Taylor Stone-Welch
  • Andiamo White
  • Martaj Marks
  • LeVar Dillard
  • Jessica Moore

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Topics Discussed:

  • What Does "Defund the Police" Mean?
  • Institutional Change
  • Public Health and Protests in a Pandemic
  • Tom Cotton Editorial
  • 2020 Endorsements
  • Three Reactions to Friday's Episode
  • Outside of Politics

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In a moment when we are reexamining the role and practices of policing in America, we are thrilled to welcome back Lisa Sharon Harper, an author, activist, and founder and president of Freedom Road, to talk us through what a world without police might look like.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Breaking News Trump Press Conference
  • George Floyd Murder & Ongoing Protests
  • Covid-19 Questions Answered with Michelle Becker
  • Benediction (@prayersfromterry)

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Episode Resources:

  • Why the CVS Burned (Slate)
  • 5 Racist Anti-Racism Responses “Good” White Women Give to Viral Posts (KatyKatiKate)
  • The case for hiring more police officers (Vox)
  • Better Policing Can Improve Legitimacy and Reduce Mass Incarceration (Harvard Law Review)
  • Private insurance companies can play a powerful role in reforming police practices (Marketplace)
  • The Police Can Still Choose Nonviolence (The Atlantic)
  • Imagine a world without police. (For A World Without Police)
  • What Policing Should Look Like (Reason)
  • Community Policing (National Police Foundation)

Talking To Kids About Racism:

  • How to talk to your children about protests and racism (CNN Health)
  • RESOURCES FOR TALKING ABOUT RACE, RACISM AND RACIALIZED VIOLENCE WITH KIDS (Center for Racial Justice in Education)
  • Raising Equity

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Topics Discussed:

  • George Floyd
  • 100,000 American Deaths
  • Governor Gretchen Whitmer

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Episode Resources:

  • Amy Cooper Knew Exactly What She Was Doing (Huff Post)
  • As Mayor Frey calls for officer's arrest, violence intensifies in Minneapolis (Star Tribune)
  • Campaign For Professional Policing
  • What We Know About the Death of George Floyd in Minneapolis (The New York Times)
  • How Amy Cooper and George Floyd represent two versions of racism that black Americans face every day (The Washington Post)
  • Gov. Gretchen Whitmer launches investigation into Midland dam failures (Bridge)
  • Whitmer among lawmakers sharing stories about rape in abortion debate (The Detroit News)
  • Gov. Gretchen Whitmer extends Michigan stay home order to June 12 (Detroit Free Press)

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Topics Discussed:

  • America's Return to Space
  • Joe Biden
  • Andy Beshear & Kentucky Protests
  • President Trump and the 2020 Election
  • Women Leaders and Pandemics (with Swanee Hunt)
  • Outside of Politics

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Episode Resources:

  • Battling COVID-19: How Women’s Leadership Saves Lives (Women's eNews)
  • NASA to launch astronauts to space station from US soil for the first time in a decade (CNN Business)
  • SpaceX's Crew Dragon set for final key test before astronaut launch (CNN Business)
  • Meet the NASA astronauts who will fly on historic SpaceX mission (CNN Business)
  • Biden says he was too ‘cavalier’ about black voters’ choices (AP)
  • In unprecedented times, Andy Beshear has done what's right for Kentuckians (Courier Journal)
  • Did Social-Distancing Measures in Kentucky Help to Flatten the COVID-19 Curve? (Gatton College)
  • Beshear hung in effigy as Second Amendment supporters rally at Capitol ahead of Memorial Day (Courier Journal)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Flooding
  • Hong Kong
  • Georgia Canceled Election
  • Obamagate
  • Swing Left

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Episode Resources:

  • Beth's Nightly Nuance on the Georgia special election (Pantsuit Politics)
  • China to impose sweeping national security law in Hong Kong, bypassing city’s legislature (The Washington Post)
  • China Moves to Impose New Hong Kong Security Laws, Tightening Its Control (The New York Times)
  • The media is helping Trump turn the bogus ‘Obamagate’ into the 2020 version of Clinton’s email (The Washington Post)
  • Obamagate was the worst crime ever committed and here is what it was (The Washington Post)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Breonna Taylor Death (1:08)
  • Public Service and Compliments (12:02)
  • Where Does the Money Come From? (15:05)
  • Outside of Politics (43:24)

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Episode Resources:

  • Breonna Taylor Was Always Essential (Rolling Stone)
  • Louisville postal inspector: No ‘packages of interest’ at slain EMT Breonna Taylor’s home (WDRB)
  • Family sues after 26-year-old EMT is shot and killed by police in her own home (CBS News)
  • 'No-knock' searches plus stand-your-ground laws: A deadly combo for civilians and police (USA Today)
  • Family seeks answers in fatal police shooting of Louisville woman in her apartment (The Washington Post)
  • The Trump administration has recently moved to oust 4 government watchdogs. Here they are. (USA Today)
  • The government whistleblower who says the Trump administration's coronavirus response has cost lives (60 Minutes)
  • The Economist Who Believes the Government Should Just Print More Money (The New Yorker)
  • House Democrats unveil their $3 trillion coronavirus relief package (Axios)
  • US is `printing' money to help save the economy from the COVID-19 crisis, but some wonder how far it can go (USA Today)
  • The US...

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We share kids' perspective on Covid-19. Ranging in age from toddlers to college students, we hear from kids and young adults who are processing the pandemic as uniquely as their adult counterparts. Thank you to the many, many kids, young adults, and parents who sent in their stories.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 & Reopening the Economy (01:36)
  • Michael Flynn & the Department of Justice (09:43)
  • Tara Reade (17:42)
  • Local Leader Compliments (29:03)
  • America's Relationship with China (30:51)
  • Outside of Politics (52:40)

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Episode Resources:

  • Take the Shutdown Skeptics Seriously (The Atlantic)
  • The agonizing story of Tara Reade (Vox)
  • Leaders Are Crying on the Job. Maybe That’s a Good Thing. (The New York Times)
  • Amazon's 'Making the Cut' is the ultimate example of product placement (Engadget)

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The Nuanced Life Episode from May 6th, 2020.

We've gotten so many messages from you all about how to make decisions in the midst of this pandemic. We're in the messy middle of this and we are all feeling it. We share how we're doing and tackle some listener questions about how to handle this moment in time.

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So many of you wrote in asking us to talk about Plandemic, the viral video making its way around social media. We break down its content, intention, and what you need to know as you talk to the people in your life who are watching it.

Topics Discussed:

  • Processing Plandemic (01:48)
  • Ahmaud Arbery (50:45)

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Episode Resources:

  • Georgia family demands arrests 2 months after son shot dead (AP)
  • Ahmaud Arbery's parents call for arrests after 'modern lynching in the middle of the day' (The Guardian)

Plandemic:

  • These are the '10 plain truths' about the coronavirus pandemic, according to former CDC Director Dr. Tom Frieden (CNN)
  • Fallout From Fatigue Syndrome Retraction Is Wide (The New York Times)
  • Fact check: Hospitals get paid more if patients listed as COVID-19, on ventilators (USA Today)
  • Hospital Payments and the COVID-19 Death Count (FactCheck.org)
  • Hospitals get paid more to list patients as COVID-19. (PolitiFact)
  • Estimated Cost of Treating the Uninsured Hospitalized with COVID-19 (KFF)
  • Royalty payments to staff researchers cause new NIH troubles (U.S. National Library of Medicine National Institute of Health)
  • March-In Rights Under the Bayh-Dole Act (Congressional Research Service)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Covid-19 Fatigue (1:38)
  • Joe Biden (22:28)
  • Murder Hornets (38:24)
  • Local Leader Compliments (39:27)
  • Supreme Court Decisions (42:29)
  • Outside of Politics (58:01)

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Episode Resources:

  • Julie Wise, King County Elections Director
  • A Message from President Ambar

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Topics Discussed:

  • Mental Health Awareness Month (2:32)
  • 2020: Joe Biden (3:55)
  • 2020: Justin Amash (15:55)
  • Defense Production Act and Meat Supply (25:42)
  • Covid-19 Treatment (32:55)
  • Local Leader Compliments (33:57)

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Episode Resources:

  • Mental Health America
  • Meet the team who will help Joe Biden pick his vice presidential running mate (USA Today)
  • Justin Amash Becomes the First Libertarian Member of Congress (Reason)
  • Gavin Newsom Declares California a ‘Nation-State’ (Bloomberg)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Census Reminder (2:02)
  • Food Waste and Hunger (3:33)
  • The Role of Government in a Crisis (5:46)
  • Covid-19 Medical Updates (20:56)
  • Local Leader Compliments (22:31)
  • Trey Greyson Interview (25:35)
  • Outside of Politics (54:02)

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Episode Resources:

  • USDA let millions of pounds of food rot while food-bank demand soared (Politico)
  • U.S. food banks run short on staples as hunger soars (Reuters)
  • 2 million chickens will be killed in Delaware and Maryland because of lack of employees at processing plants (CNN)
  • Trump Urges Some Governors to Consider Reopening Schools; U.S. Passes 50,000 Deaths (The New York Times)
  • WHO says no evidence shows that having coronavirus prevents a second infection (CNN)
  • A mysterious blood-clotting complication is killing coronavirus patients (The Washington Post)
  • Oregon Sends 140 Ventilators to New York (Willamette Week)

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We share your personal experiences with Covid-19 - stories from patients, family members, medical professionals, and public officials. We hope this episode serves as a resource for you to share with your own communities to help Americans better understand what it's like for those facing this disease firsthand.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Shutdown Protests (2:57)
  • Canadian Shooting (18:04)
  • What Happens Next? (28:32)
  • Outside of Politics (47:57)

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Episode Resources:

  • Pro-fun activists using Facebook groups to push anti-quarantine protests (The Washington Post)
  • It's Time to Build (Andreessen Horowitz)
  • Midland, Tex., was already reeling from a collapsing oil market. Then came coronavirus. (The Washington Post)
  • Chief medical officers are leading Canada through COVID-19 crisis — and many are women (CBC)
  • Actual/Estimate New Case County (PBS)
  • Joe Biden: My Plan to Safely Reopen America (The New York Times)
  • National Coronavirus Response: A Road Map to Reopening (AEI)
  • Serology testing for COVID-19 (Johns Hopkins)
  • Testing coronavirus survivors’ blood could help reopen U.S. (The Washington Post)
  • What governors need from Washington during this health emergency (The Washington Post)
  • Bill Gates: Here’s how to make up for lost time on covid-19 (The Washington Post)
  • The History of Earth Day

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Topics Discussed:

  • President Trump's Response to Covid-19 (02:27)
  • Call to Hear First Hand Experiences with Covid-19 (20:00)
  • Celebrating Local Leaders (20:51)
  • Michelle Becker Answers Your Questions (23:41)
  • Prayers for A Turbulent Time (50:17)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Biden Sexual Assault Accusation (3:01)
  • Easter Weekend Severe Weather (20:23)
  • CARES Act Update (21:19)
  • Celebrating Local Leaders (23:25)
  • Wisconsin Election (29:17)
  • 2020 Election Ramifications (23:26)
  • Voting By Mail (34:32)
  • Outside of Politics (49:15)

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Sponsors:

  • Bombas
  • M.M. LaFleur

Episode Resources:

  • Examining Tara Reade’s Sexual Assault Allegation Against Joe Biden (The New York Times)
  • Sexual assault allegation by former Biden Senate aide emerges in campaign, draws denial (The Washington Post)
  • The Pandemic's First Wave (The Washington Post)
  • Closing poem by Allison Gill

Celebrating Local Leaders:

  • Meet the doctor who ordered the Bay Area’s coronavirus lockdown, the first in the U.S. (The Mercury News)
  • Federal policy says students must pick up school meals in person. (The Washington Post)
  • Del. Roem Advocates for Increased Access to School Meals (Bristow Beat)
  • Virginia Stapleton - City Council Candidate

Voting By Mail and the 2020 Election

  • Could the 2020 Election Be Postponed? Only With Great Difficulty. Here’s Why. (The New York Times)

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Topics Discussed:

  • The Presidential Election (2:20)
  • Celebrating Local Leaders (16:12)
  • Coronavirus Research - Michelle Becker (22:16)

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We are beyond thrilled to be sharing an incredible conversation we had with Lisa Sharon Harper, an author, activist, and founder and president of Freedom Road. Freedom Road is a consulting organization which trains and designs experiences that help groups do justice in just ways. We know you are going to love Lisa as much as we do and that this conversation will encourage and challenge you in the best ways.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Extra Credit Books (01:33)
  • Tackling Misinformation (06:05)
  • Why We Keep Talking about Coronavirus Here (15:39)
  • Celebrating Local Leaders (23:18)
  • Lament for Coronavirus (28:54)

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  • Axios-Ipsos Coronavirus Index: Rich sheltered, poor shafted amid virus (Axios)
  • This Pandemic Is Not Your Vacation (Buzzfeed News)
  • Coronavirus deniers take aim at hospitals as pandemic grows (NBC News)
  • Lament for Coronavirus by Shannon Williams (Pantsuit Politics Website)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Opening Meditation (2:22)
  • Jonesboro Tornado (5:05)
  • CARES Act (5:59)
  • Coronavirus Reveals Our Humanity (14:11)
  • Compliments: Gov. Tim Walz (22:44)
  • Federalism, Power, and Covid-19 (27:57)
  • The Hillary Documentary (58:57)

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Episode Resources:

  • Apple Covid-19 Website
  • 'I have a broken heart': Trump policy has immigrants backing away from healthcare amid crisis (The Guardian)
  • Immigrants Are Now on Hunger Strike in 3 ICE Detention Centers Over Coronavirus Fears (Vice)
  • The U.S. Tried to Build a New Fleet of Ventilators. The Mission Failed. (The New York Times)
  • A Coronavirus Quarantine in America Could Be a Giant Legal Mess (The Atlantic)
  • The Constitution and the Coronavirus (We the People podcast)
  • Governors are starting to tighten their borders. The implications are staggering. (Vox)
  • Trump approves Michigan disaster declaration after war of words with governor (Politico)
  • 'GM was wasting time': Trump invokes DPA to force GM to make ventilators (Politico)
  • Officials Debate Whether Gun Stores Are 'Essential' During Coronavirus Outbreak (NPR)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Opening Meditation (02:24)
  • CARES Act (04:09)
  • International Covid-19 Numbers (25:21)
  • Celebrating Local Leaders (35:44)
  • 2020 Election Questions (37:57)

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Episode Resources:

  • READ: $2 Trillion Coronavirus Relief Bill (NPR)
  • Congress Reaches Agreement On A Coronavirus Relief Package: Tax Aspects Of The CARES Act (Forbes)
  • What's in the $2.2 trillion coronavirus Senate stimulus package (The Washington Post)
  • Trump team failed to follow NSC’s pandemic playbook (Politico)
  • How the Intelligence Community Predicted COVID-19 (The Dispatch)
  • Coronavirus (COVID-19) confirmed cases in Russia as of March 26, 2020, by region (Statista)
  • Coronavirus (COVID-19) confirmed cases in Ukraine as of March 26, 2020, by region (Statista)
  • As Russia shuts its borders, how widespread is COVID-19 there? (PBS News Hour)
  • Why the Coronavirus Might Be Hitting Russia Harder Than We Think (U.S. News & World Report)
  • Michael Roach (Local County Judge in Stephens County Texas)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Opening Meditation (2:14)
  • Good Community Members (3:20)
  • Covid-19 and the Senate (11:51)
  • Compliments: Andy Beshear (27:53)
  • QAnon and Coronavirus (34:39)
  • Conversation with Joe Walsh (46:50)
  • Talking to Conspiracy Believers (54:37)
  • Outside of Politics (1:07:25)

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  • "Govern me, daddy": Kentucky Governor Andy Beshear a clean-cut sex symbol for the coronavirus age (Salon)
  • Inside the COVID-Denialist Internet Bubble (Politico)
  • The Conspiracy Theory Handbook
  • How a QAnon Coronavirus Conspiracy About Oprah Went Viral (Vanity Fair)
  • QAnon May Be Resting, But It Will Never Die (Mother Jones)
  • How to debunk COVID-19 conspiracy theories (The Verge)
  • China's wild coronavirus conspiracy theories haven't slowed down (ABC News)
  • Iran leader refuses U.S. help, citing virus conspiracy theory (Politico)
  • How to Get Someone Out of a Cult (The New York Times Magazine)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Anxiety in the Time of Coronavirus (01:08)
  • Joe Biden is the Democratic Nominee (13:37)
  • Connecting Our Community (16:43)
  • Who Should We Bail Out? (22:09)
  • Meditation (41:27)

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  • How history predicts the 2020 election (and the next 40 years) (Medium)
  • Before Virus Outbreak, a Cascade of Warnings Went Unheeded (The New York Times)
  • The global economic policy response to coronavirus takes shape (Atlantic Council)
  • What Do You Tell Someone Who Still Won’t Stay Home? (The Atlantic)
  • Why Do People Believe in Conspiracy Theories? (Psychology Today)
  • Pantsuit Politics Classifieds
  • Maggie's Martial Arts Studio YouTube
  • Final Meditation (Live in the Details)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Coronavirus (03:43)
  • Economic Stimulus Bill (11:14)
  • Compliments: Proactive, Brave Leadership (25:37)
  • The Democratic Debate: Round Eleven (31:37)
  • Outside of Politics (49:03)

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  • Landing at Dulles Airport, I encountered a case study in how to spread a pandemic (The Washington Post)
  • Democrats have a new coronavirus relief package. Here’s what’s in it. (Vox)
  • Justin Amash's Concerns (Twitter)
  • The incompetence pandemic (Politico)
  • Europeans Erect Borders Against Coronavirus, but the Enemy Is Already Within (The New York Times)
  • Fact-checking the 11th Democratic primary debate (The Washington Post)
  • The Pied Pipers of the Dirtbag Left Want to Lead Everyone to Bernie Sanders (The New York Times)
  • US ambassador to UN makes visit to Syrian border, announces $108M of new aid (ABC News)
  • Several Americans were injured when rockets hit Iraqi base for second time in a week (CNN)
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Topics Discussed:

  • Spring Tour Update (02:05)
  • Coronavirus (03:26)
  • Democratic Primary (34:19)
  • Harvey Weinstein Sentencing (40:27)

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Today's meditation came to us from Amy: May we be safe, may we be happy, may we be healthy, may we be at ease.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Democratic Primary (02:20)
  • Compliments: Women Marching and Rideshare Companies (15:16)
  • Coronavirus (21:03)
  • Outside of Politics (45:05)

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  • 6 More States Vote Tuesday. Here's Your Guide To Michigan And The Rest (NPR)
  • Why Do Such Elderly People Run America? (The Atlantic)
  • North Korea launches unidentified projectiles for second time in two weeks (CNN)
  • North Korea Distracts From Virus Threat With New Missile Launch (Bloomberg)
  • Women fill streets of world’s cities with call for justice (AP)
  • Women in Resistance Dataset (Harvard)
  • Female protesters often lead to effective mass movements (Axios)
  • This Is Life Under Lockdown in Italy (The New York Times)
  • White House advisers to give President Trump policy options for coronavirus response, including paid sick leave (The Washington Post)
  • U.S. markets crater as coronavirus, oil prices...

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We discuss the Super Tuesday comeback of Joe Biden and what that means in the big picture for the primary.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Coronavirus (4:45)
  • Democratic Race Narrows (13:10)
  • Taliban Agreement (27:24)
  • Mississippi Prisons (32:17)
  • Compliments: Taylor Swift & The Good Place
  • Medicare for All (39:02)
  • Outside of Politics (1:08:56)
  • Live Reaction to Amy Klobuchar (1:14:45)

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  • Iowa Caucus Coverage
  • Free Nightly Nuance from February 27
  • Mayor Pete Flew Sky High (The New York Times)
  • Turkey says millions of migrants may head to EU (BBC)
  • Erdogan says he hopes for Idlib ceasefire deal in Putin talks (Al-Jazeera)
  • How AI Predicted the Coronavirus Outbreak with Kamran Khan (The Twiml AI Postcast)
  • The glaring loophole in U.S. virus response: Human error (Politico)
  • Negotiators move closer to deal for coronavirus, expected to exceed White House request (CNN)
  • Two inmates die at Mississippi State Pentiteniary (WTVA)

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What You Need to Know About Medicare for All:

  1. Medicare: minus the "All" (02:19)
  2. Medicare is popular because it touches so many Americans. (09:09) Currently, 44 million beneficiaries—some 15 percent of the U.S. population—are enrolled in the Medicare program. Enrollment is expected to rise to 79 million by 2030. Only one in 10 beneficiaries relies solely on the Medicare program for health care coverage.
  3. Medicare for All is not really Medicare and it's not one thing. (14:10)
  4. The cost of these plans is very, very high. (17:24)
  5. The Taiwanese health care system is the closest equivalent which is why you hear so much about it. (21:38)

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  • Medicare’s Private Option Is Gaining Popularity, and Critics (The New York Times)
  • Side-by-Side Comparison of Medicare-for-all and Public Plan Proposals
  • Medicare For All (Politico)
  • Medicare-for-All Is Not Medicare, and Not Really for All. So What Does It Actually Mean? (ProPublica)
  • Sanders Embraces New Study That Lowers ‘Medicare For All’s’ Cost, But Skepticism Abounds (Kaiser Health News)
  • 9 things Americans need to learn from the rest of the world’s health care systems (Vox)
  • A Brief History: Universal Health Care Efforts in the US (PNHP)
  • An Overview of Medicare (KFF)
  • Here's How Warren Finds $20.5 Trillion To Pay For 'Medicare For All' (NPR)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Harvey Weinstein Found Guilty (04:59)
  • Coronavirus (07:59)
  • President Trump in India (13:34)
  • Cheating in Baseball (21:34)
  • Negotiating with the Taliban (26:03)
  • Mike Bloomberg NDAs (27:54)
  • Compliments: Lindsay James & Greyhound Bus (28:39)
  • Nevada Caucus Results (34:58)
  • Outside of Politics (01:02:51)

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  • Fourteen Days of Solitude: A Diary (The New York Times)
  • ‘America Loves India,’ Trump Declares at Rally With Modi (The New York Times)
  • After Attending a Trump Rally, I Realized Democrats Are Not Ready For 2020 (Medium)
  • Joey Votto Interview (The Jim Day Podcast)
  • US-Taliban truce begins, raising hopes of peace deal (Al-Jazeera)
  • Bloomberg: 3 Women Who Made 'Complaints About Comments' Can Seek NDA Releases (NPR)
  • Iowa lawmakers kill mobile home park bills as residents beg, 'please, help us' (Des Moines Register)
  • Greyhound will no longer consent to warrantless searches by border patrol agents (Vox)

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Sarah and Beth recap the ninth Democratic presidential primary debate and talk about how they think it will - and won't - impact the primary moving forward.

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Topics Discussed:

  • Roger Stone & Bill Barr (3:58)
  • Taliban Agreement (17:42)
  • Harvey Weinstein Trial (23:28)
  • Compliments: African Union Summit & Pete Buttigieg (34:20)
  • Primary Panic 40:45)
  • Outside of Politics (71:15)

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  • DOJ Alumni Statement on the Events Surrounding the Sentencing of Roger Stone (Medium)
  • Barr privately ordered re-examination of Michael Flynn's case, US officials say (CNN)
  • ‘Extortion’: N.Y. Assails Trump Administration Over Traveler Programs (The New York Times)
  • Border Patrol Will Deploy Elite Tactical Agents to Sanctuary Cities (The New York Times)
  • Trump Administration Adds Six Countries to Travel Ban (The New York Times)
  • Trust and Consequences (The Washington Post)
  • ‘Something has to be done’: Trump’s quest to rewrite history of the Russia probe (The Washington Post)
  • Is Patriarchy Too Big to Fail? (The Baffler)
  • Beth's Nightly Nuance on the African Union Summit

The Democratic Primary:

  • The Cult of Unity Is a Poison (The Dispatch)
  • 14 questions for Bernie Sanders (The Washington Post)
  • Sanders Is Winning Because He's Popular (The Atlantic)

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We discuss our time on the ground in New Hampshire and the results of the primary there.

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Topics Discussed:

  • News of the Week
  • Deaths in Afghanistan
  • Compliment: Vindman Brothers
  • Democratic Primary
  • Outside of Politics

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Topics Discussed:

  • State of the Union (03:33)
  • Impeachment (15:18)
  • The Iowa Caucus Results (33:06)

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Episode Resources:

  • Trump Bashes Socialism While Endorsing a Status Quo Socialism of His Own (Reason)
  • State of the Union fact check: What's true and what's false in Trump's address (NBC News)
  • How Capitalism Broke Young Adulthood (The Atlantic)
  • ASL Caucus in Iowa (Daily Moth)

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We bring you our coverage direct from Des Moines, Iowa. We met voters, candidates, and legislators who all shared their thoughts on the Iowa 2020 experience.

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  • U.S. farm bankruptcies hit an eight-year high: court data (Reuters)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Emotional Housekeeping (01:45)
  • Impeachment Q&A Day (08:39)
  • Executive Power and Term Limits (15:30)
  • Brexit (29:36)
  • Iowa Caucus & New Hampshire Primary (38:12)

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  • The First Primary: Why New Hampshire? (University of New Hampshire)
  • Why the Iowa Caucuses Are So Important (The New York Times)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Climate Change Offsets (3:08)
  • Coronavirus (6:48)
  • Traumatic Brain Injuries (9:28)
  • Secretary Pompeo and Mary Louise Kelly (13:34)
  • John Bolton and an Impeachment Update (24:15)
  • Jim Lehrer and Kobe Bryant (31:33)
  • 2020 Primary (38:09)
  • Outside of Politics (50:07)

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Episode Resources:

  • The Good Traveler
  • Symptoms of Coronavirus (CDC)
  • About Novel Coronavirus (CDC)
  • Coronavirus Live Updates (The New York Times)
  • Department of Defense Press Briefing by Assistant to the Secretary of Defense Hoffman (Department of Defense)
  • 34 troops diagnosed with brain injuries days after Trump dismissed them as 'headaches' (Politico)
  • Yes, Secretary Pompeo, Americans Should Care About Ukraine (The New York Times)
  • Trump Tied Ukraine Aid to Inquiries He Sought, Bolton Book Says (The New York Times)
  • Des Moines Register Warren Endorsement
  • New Hampshire Union Leader Klobuchar Endorsement

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Topics Discussed:

  • Impeachment Update (02:02)
  • Jeff Bezos and Mohammad Bin Salman (13:16)
  • Coronavirus (17:13)
  • 2020 Campaign Update (23:07)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Impeachment Update (05:42)
  • Compliment: Ayanna Pressley (25:41)
  • The New York Times Democratic Primary Endorsement (33:05)
  • Outside of Politics (01:01:39)

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Episode Resources:

  • Rep. Ayanna Pressley Reveals Beautiful Bald Head For The First Time (The Root)
  • Team Biden Memo on Impeachment
  • Answer of President Donald J. Trump
  • Impeachment Trial Memorandum
  • Trial Memorandum of President Donald J. Trump
  • Cory Booker on What Breaks His Heart
  • Sarah and Beth's Washington Post Democratic Primary Quiz Results
  • College-Educated Voters Are Ruining American Politics (The Atlantic)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Lev Parnes & Rudy Guiliani (2:04)
  • Impeachment Update (11:00)
  • The Seventh Democratic Debate (18:14)

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  • Extra Credit: The Pantsuit Politics Book Subscription
  • Materials provided by Giuliani associate Lev Parnas to the House (The Washington Post)
  • Lev Parnas Adds New Details on Push to Oust U.S. Ambassador to Ukraine (The New York Times)
  • The Fog of Rudy (The New York Times)
  • Impeachment trial security crackdown will limit Capitol press access (Roll Call)
  • The Third Rail of Calling ‘Sexism’ (The Cut)
  • Virginia Approves the E.R.A., Becoming the 38th State to Back It (The New York Times)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Democratic Primary (01:30)
  • Natural Disasters Around the World (07:54)
  • CLEAN Future Act (09:29)
  • Iran (13:06)
  • Afghanistan Deaths (19:47)
  • Taiwanese Election (20:45)
  • China and Trade (22:08)
  • Compliments: Tom Donahue & Eitan Hersh (22:56)
  • Senate Impeachment Rules (27:27)
  • Outside of Politics (46:13)

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News of the Week

  • 'Clerics get lost!': Iran protests rage on for a third day (Al-Jazeera)
  • Al-Asad base had minutes' notice before the Iranian rockets came crashing down in an hour-long barrage (The Washington Post)
  • Iranians protest for the third day over downed airliner amid reports of gunfire by security forces (The Washington Post)
  • The Trump Administration’s Fluctuating Explanations for the Suleimani Strike (The New York Times)
  • Iran Cracks Down as Protests Over Downing of Airliner Grow (The New York Times)
  • 2 Soldiers killed in Afghanistan from Virginia, Illinois (Associated Press)
  • JetBlue plans to go completely carbon neutral on all U.S. flights (The Washington Post)
  • House Democrats' climate bill aims to achieve net-zero emissions by 2050 (Axios)

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  • Meghan & Harry (15:51)
  • Australian Wildfire (27:06)

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  • The Tragedy Expert (Without Fail)
  • Trump Moves to Exempt Big Projects From Environmental Review (The New York Times)
  • Millions of animals are dying from the Australian fires, and the environment will suffer for years to come (CNN)
  • 1 Billion Animals Have Reportedly Died in Australia’s Wildfires (The Cut)
  • 7 things everyone should know about Australia’s wildfire disaster (Vox)
  • Australia fires: Misleading maps and pictures go viral (BBC)
  • Why the Fires in Australia Are So Bad (The New York Times)

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  • Our New Look! (01:48)
  • Australian Wildfires (03:40)
  • Iran & Qasem Soleimani (04:19)
  • Manda Bay Kenya Attack (23:39)
  • Venezuelan Politics (25:12)
  • Compliments: Michelle Williams and Those Involved in Harvey Weinstein's Trial (27:04)
  • The Challenges of 2020 (31:33)
  • Outside of Politics (56:12)

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  • Extremists attack Kenya military base, 3 Americans killed (AP)
  • Supporters Of Venezuela's Maduro Try To Seize Control Of Legislature (NPR)
  • All Bets Are Off as Harvey Weinstein’s Sexual Assault Trial Opens Today (The New York Times)
  • December 2019 Issue of The Atlantic

Conflict with Iran:

  • Trump’s mistold tale of Obama and Iran (AP)
  • US-Iran tensions: Timeline of events leading to Soleimani killing (Al-Jazeera)
  • Qasem Soleimani: Timeline of events leading to US killing of Iranian general (Evening Standard)
  • Iran Vowed Retaliation After a U.S. Strike Killed a Top Iranian General. Here’s a Timeline of Recent Escalations (TIME)
  • In A Day Of Turmoil, Repercussions Of Soleimani Killing Grow More Widespread (NPR)
  • Iranians Close Ranks Behind Leaders After U.S. Kills Popular General (The New York Times)
  • American Foreign Policy Is Broken. Suleimani’s Killing Proves It. (The New York Times)
  • Iran announces it is suspending its...

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  • Amazon (02:23)
  • Impeachment Update (04:10)
  • Christianity Today Editorial (14:50)
  • Democratic Debate (27:05)

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After polling our listeners, you have selected our 2019 Episode of the Year! Today, we're replaying our policy set from May about abortion law. You'll hear our Five Things You Need to Know About Abortion Law followed by our conversation about the complexities and nuances surrounding this issue.

Thanks to everyone who voted; we know abortion is a tough topic, so it speaks well of our community that you all were and continue to be so ready to engage with it.

Five Things to Know About Abortion Law:

  1. Abortion has a long emotional history in the US that Roe vs. Wade didn't stop.
  2. Ohio, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Georgia have passed "heart beat bills".
  3. Heartbeat bills and outright bans on abortion in all circumstances are surging in popularity, despite the fact that public opinion is largely more nuanced about abortion.
  4. Stare decisions recently took a hit on the Supreme Court.
  5. Kentucky's law has already been struck down in court. Mississippi and Ohio's are already being challenged. Georgia and Alabama laws are also expected to be challenged.

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  • New poll finds "dramatic shift" on abortion attitudes
  • Gallup polls on abortion
  • Abortion would automatically be illegal in these states if Roe v. Wade is overturned
  • Abortion Opponents Think They’re Winning. Have They Set Themselves Up to Fail?
  • ‘The Time Is Now’: States Are Rushing to Restrict Abortion, or to Protect It
  • Missouri Democratic lawmakers slam abortion bill
  • Missouri Lawmakers Pass Bill Criminalizing Abortion at About 8 Weeks of Pregnancy

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Jersey City Shooting (01:52)

St John's Properties Holiday Bonus (03:24)

USMCA (07:00)

Citizenship for Farm Workers (11:51)

Inspector General Report (12:49)

Bill of Rights Day (29:22)

Time Person of the Year: Greta Thunberg (30:08)

Earlene Peterson and the Death Penalty (34:48)

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  • Nightly Nuance on Trump's Executive Order defining Judaism
  • Md. company’s employees split surprise $10M bonus (Washington's Top News)
  • House votes to provide a pathway to citizenship for thousands of undocumented farmworkers (CNN Politics)
  • The USMCA is finally done. Here's what is in it. (The Washington Post)
  • Review of Four FISA Applications and Other Aspects of the FBI's Crossfire Hurricane Investigation (U.S. Department of Justice)
  • He'll be the first federal prisoner executed in 17 years. Relatives of his victims are pleading for his life (CNN)
  • TIME Person of the Year 2019
  • Bill of Rights Day

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The British Election (02:26)

National Defense Authorization Act (04:04)

Pensacola Shooting (05:43)

Afghanistan Papers (10:54)

Compliments: Utah and the Trump Administration (29:06)

Impeachment Update (35:20)

Trump Lawsuits (35:53)

Outside of Politics (56:19)

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  • Congress Agrees Space Force; 2020 NDAA Vote Next Week (Breaking Defense)
  • Saudis have come for U.S. military training for decades (The Washington Post)
  • Pensacola Victims: Three Hopeful Men at the Dawn of Naval Careers (The New York Times)
  • Pearl Harbor Shooting Unfolded in 23 Seconds in Packed Area (US News & World Report)
  • At War with the Truth (The Washington Post)
  • Trump gave states the power to ban refugees. Conservative Utah wants more. (The Washington Post)
  • In Prisoner Swap, Iran Frees American Held Since 2016 (The New York Times)
  • House Judiciary Committee report outlining constitutional grounds for impeachment (CNN)
  • Donald Trump: Three decades, 4,095 lawsuits (USA Today)
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Measles Outbreak in Samoa (02:39)

Macmillan E-book Licensing (03:43)

Kamala Harris (06:23)

Impeachment Update (07:56)

Amazon (23:39)

Your Political Holiday Stories (47:30)

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  • I Tried to Block Amazon From My Life. It Was Impossible. (Gizmodo)
  • We should be ashamed, but when it comes to Amazon, we just can’t help ourselves (Los Angeles Times)
  • Amazon reveals the bestselling items that drove Cyber Monday to become its biggest shopping day in history (Business Insider)
  • Jeff Bezos’s Master Plan (The Atlantic)
  • Behind the Smiles (Reveal News)
  • Amazon: Behind the Smiles (Reveal podcast)
  • The Cost of Next-Day Delivery (BuzzFeed News)

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UN Climate Summit

NATO Meeting

British Election and the London Bridge Attack

Trump, the Taliban, and the Military

Unrest in the Middle East

Problems in China

Compliments: Sen. Marco Rubio and all of Washington D.C.

The Impeachment Timeline

What Congress is Working On

2020 Presidential Primary

Beth's Book Review of A Warning

Outside of Politics

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Global News

  • Don't fiddle while the planet burns, U.N. chief warns climate summit (Reuters)
  • COP25: UN climate change conference, 5 things you need to know (United Nations)
  • What is the UN's COP25 climate summit, and why does it matter? (NewScientist)
  • NATO Leaders Meeting - Updated media advisory
  • London Attack Spurs Heroism and Questions About a Prisoner’s Release (The New York Times)
  • General Election Coverage (BBC)
  • With Brutal Crackdown, Iran Is Convulsed by Worst Unrest in 40 Years (The New York Times)
  • What Iran Did Not Want You to See (The New York Times Opinion)
  • With prime minister out, Iraq in constitutional ‘black hole’ (AP)
  • China Spares Trade in First Retaliation to U.S.’s Hong Kong Law (Bloomberg)
  • ...

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We cannot begin to express our gratitude to everyone who made the Nuance Nation Tour possible this fall. Our teams of listener volunteers went above and beyond in each city; we simply could not have done this tour without them. Special thanks also to our amazing guests: Rev. Dr. Penny Nixon in San Mateo, Piper Perabo and Michelle Finocchi in Thousand Oaks, Rep. Haley Stevens in Troy, Michigan, Amy McGrath in Louisville, Susan Page in Washington D.C., and MJ Hegar in Dallas.

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Edwards Gallagher (1:37)

Hong Kong (8.54)

Netanyahu Indictment (13.26)

Compliments: Minimum Wage Increases and (14.41)

Talking Politics at Thanksgiving (20.04)

Outside of Politics (35.05)

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Episode Resources:

  • Job loss predictions over rising minimum wages haven't come true (Axios)
  • More Than Half the World Now Lives in a Democracy (Beautiful News)
  • K.C. Clifford Pleads For Empathy On A New Song, “Salt” (American Songwriter)

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The Democratic Debate (02:29)

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China Updates (01:59)

Iranian Influence in Iraq (6:15)

North Korean Demands (10:16)

Louisiana Elections (11:45)

Farm Bankruptcies (13:03)

Military Clemencies (15:17)

House Science Committee (17:52)

More Mass Shootings (20:26)

Impeachment (24:35)

Outside of Politics (51:39)

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Foreign News:

  • 'Absolutely No Mercy’: Leaked Files Expose How China Organized Mass Detentions of Muslims (The New York Times)
  • Hong Kong Violence Escalates as Police and Protesters Clash at University (The New York Times)

Domestic News:

  • U.S. stock market at record but farm bankruptcies at highest since 2011 (Market Watch)
  • Trump grants clemency to troops in three controversial war crimes cases (Military Times)
  • EPA to Limit Science Used to Write Public Health Rules (The New York Times)
  • NRDC Attorney Live-Tweets Hearing
  • The Complete Science Committee Hearing
  • Prosecutor calls Walmart shooting isolated incident (AP)
  • 4 killed, 6 others shot at family gathering in Fresno, California (NBC News)
  • A student wrote a haunting poem about how the Santa Clarita school shooting made her feel (CNN)
  • How Scientists...

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Global Natural Disasters (02:08)

Hong Kong Protests (05:07)

2020 Primary (09:16)

Erdogan-Trump Meeting (13:55)

Impeachment Hearings (20:40)

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Impeachment Inquiry Public Hearings (02:41)

Bloomber Test Balloon (07:57)

Peter King (09:18)

Bolivia (10:07)

Gilead Sciences (13:05)

Compliment the Other Side (14:20)

Uighurs in China (19:33)

Outside of Politics (41:29)

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Why George Kent is a Star Witness

Bolivia’s Morales Steps Down

The Suit Against Gilead Sciences

Buttigieg Promises to Name Woman VA Secretary

Hire Honor: The Call of Duty Endowment

A Day of Violence in Hong Kong

US Blacklists China AI Startups

In China, Every Day is Kristallnacht

Plight of the Uyghurs

Council of Foreign Relations on the Uyghurs

America’s Consumer Paradise Means Hell on Earth

Xi Jinping and Authoritarianism

Technology and the Uyghurs

Chen Quanguo and Perfecting a Police State in Tibet

Members of the Crime, Terrorism, and Homeland Security Subcommittee

American Heretics

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2019 Election Results (01:32)

Impeachment Update (22:09)

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Impeachment Update (02:13)

Funding the Government (03:11)

Saudi Aramco Goes Public (05:08)

DHS Acting Secretary (08:05)

Beto O'Rourke Ends His Campaign (12:10)

Warren's Medicare for All Plan (17:00)

Compliments: Oklahoma and Apple (35:34)

Governor Steve Bullock (43:24 )

Outside of Politics (59:04)

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Department of Homeland Security:

  • US border officers die by suicide 30% more often than other cops (Quartz)
  • Border Patrol Suicide Rate Spikes (CBS News)
  • Nearly 475,000 migrant families arrested at the US-Mexico border -- up 342 percent (CNN Politics)
  • Border Patrol Apprehended Nearly 1 Million Migrants At The Southern Border In Fiscal Year 2019 (Time)
  • Homeland Security Secretary story (AP News)
  • White House To Name Chad Wolf As Acting Homeland Security Secretary (NPR)
  • Trump, DHS differ on who is acting DHS secretary (Politico)
  • Agency securing nation's borders struggles with permanent leadership (Axios)
  • Mr. President, we need a secretary of homeland security (Washington Post)

The Democratic Primary:

  • Inside Beto O’Rourke’s collapse...

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2019 Election (02:16)

Impeachment Resolution (15:05)

All Saints Day (34:57)

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  • Your November 2019 North Texas Voting Guide (Kera News)
  • Where House members stand on impeaching Trump (The Washington Post)
  • Democrats’ Rules Approved for Impeachment Inquiry (The New York Times)
  • Democrats Unveil Proposed Rules for Public Impeachment Proceedings (The New York Times)

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Power & Wildfires in California (02:24)

Killing of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi (03:15)

Global Protests (08:56)

Compliments: Mark Meadows and the American Congressional Exchange (21:17)

The Federal Budget Process (26:37)

Outside of Politics (50:07)

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  • GOP's Meadows offers tribute to Elijah Cummings (The Hill)
  • American Congressional Exchange (Bipartisan Policy Center)
  • To bridge divide, our congressman went to Arkansas. Theirs came here. Did it work? (The News Tribune)

Killing of Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi:

  • This is the compound where ISIS' Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi died (NBC News)
  • With Baghdadi in their sights, U.S. troops launched a ‘dangerous and daring nighttime raid’ (The Washington Post)
  • Al-Baghdadi Raid Was a Victory Built on Factors Trump Derides (The New York Times)
  • How the US military raid that killed al-Baghdadi happened (CNN)

Global Protests:

  • Do today's global protests have anything in common? (BBC News)
  • Spinning, downplaying, ignoring: Lebanon protests and the media (Al Jazeera)

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Impeachment Update (02:08)

  1. Budget Vocabulary (09:10)

  2. Mandatory vs. Discretionary vs. Tax Breaks (12:59)

  3. Deficits and Debt (16:06)

  4. The Process in Theory (20:28)

  5. The Process in Practice (23:11)

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Overview:

  • Federal Budget Glossary (National Priorities)
  • What is the Federal Budget? (The Balance)
  • Budget of the U.S. Government (USA.gov)
  • The Essential Guide to the Federal Budget (Politico Pro)
  • Federal Budget 101 (National Priorities)

History:

  • History of the Budget Process (Tax Policy Center)
  • US Federal Budget History (Areppim)
  • A Short History of Government Taxing and Spending in the United States (Tax Foundation)

The Process:

  • Introduction to the Federal Budget Process (Center on Budget and Policy Priorities)
  • Federal Spending: Where Does the Money Go (National Priorities Project)

Debt and Deficit:

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Brexit (02:03)

Syrian Ceasefire & Middle East Policy (03:26)

G7 Summit Location (04:07)

Impeachment Update (23:03)

2020 Primary Update (30:35)

Compliment: All Women Space Walk & Keanon Lowe (36:10)

Campaigning and Social Media (40:33)

Outside of Politics (01:03:51)

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  • Brexit: What Happens Now? (BBC)
  • Mitch McConnell Op-Ed (The Washington Post)
  • Trump says his Doral golf resort will no longer host next year's G7 summit after criticism (The Washington Post)
  • After backlash, Trump says his Doral resort won’t host G-7 summit (Politico)
  • Oregon high school football coach disarms and hugs student carrying loaded shotgun (Fox News)
  • Twitter lays out rules for world leaders amid pressure to rein in Trump (The Guardian)
  • Platforms give pols a free pass to lie (Axios)

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Elijah Cummings (02:24)

Brexit (03:33)

1000 Days of Trump (04:47)

Impeachment Update (18:23)

Democratic Debate: Round Four (29:41)

Pantsuit Politics in the Wild:

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  • Disaster in the Desert: Why Trump’s Middle East Plan Can’t Work (Foreign Affairs)

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Atatiana Jefferson (01:48)

Marie Yovanovitch (04:09)

Syria & Turkey (08:20)

Trump News Slaughter Video (14:28)

Ellen & George W. Bush (19:59)

Compliments: Nancy Amons & Cynthia Thielen (22:55)

Domestic Violence Awareness & Trauma-Informed Workplaces (28:43)

Outside of Politics (35:47)

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  • “They murdered this woman”: Outrage after Texas officer shoots a black woman in her own home (Vox)
  • Nancy Amons Mike Pompeo Interview
  • The Bipartisan Political Legacy Of Cynthia Thielen (Honolulu Civil Beat)
  • Women Helping Women (Kristin Shrimplin)
  • Break the Cycle
  • The National Coalition Against Domestic Violence
  • Domestic Violence Awareness Project
  • RAINN Statistics

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Syria (03:05)

Impeachment Update (16:34)

Elizabeth Warren and Pregnancy Discrimination (21:45)

Ellen and George W. Bush (28:08)

Stephanie Wittels Wach (44:13)

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  • American inside German synagogue where worshippers thwarted attack, said it felt "like an eternity" (NBC News)
  • Inspector general report shows at least 16 officers involved in cover-up of Laquan McDonald shooting (NBC News)
  • Evacuations ordered as fast-moving wildfire spreads in Bay Area town (CBS News)
  • Who are the Kurds? (BBC News)
  • Why Is Turkey Fighting the Kurds in Syria? (The New York Times)
  • Shells Fired Into Turkey as Syria Offensive Extends Into 2nd Day (The New York Times)
  • The U.S. played down Turkey’s concerns about Syrian Kurdish forces. That couldn’t last. (The Washington Post)
  • 2 Florida businessmen who helped Giuliani in Ukraine arrested on campaign finance charges (NBC News)

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Topics Discussed:

Impeachment Update (02:20)

Compliment: Hakeem Jeffries and Doug Collins (22:09)

The #MeToo Anniversary (26:31)

Outside of Politics (48:44)

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Episode Resources:

  • 'Game Recognizes Game': A Bipartisan Bond In The Age Of Impeachment (NPR)
  • She Said: Breaking the Sexual Harassment Story That Helped Ignite a Movementby Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey
  • The Toll of Me Too by Rebecca Traister (The Cut)
  • Who Buys Sex? (Demand Abolition)

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Topics Discussed:

Impeachment (01:52)

Sarah Riggs Amico(26:16)

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Topics Discussed:

Hong Kong (02:59)

MBS and the Khashoggi Murder (07:27)

Immigration Decisions (12:04)

Compliments: Fighting the Opioid Crisis (15:49)

Impeachment & Ukraine (21:03)

Outside of Politics (39:12)

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Episode Resources:

  • Hong Kong’s Status as Neutral Ground at Risk as China Asserts Power (The New York Times)
  • Mohammad bin Salman denies ordering Khashoggi murder, but says he takes responsibility for it (CBS News)
  • A bad day for Trump administration on immigrant front as it suffers three legal defeats in one day (Los Angeles Times)
  • Flores v. Barr (US District Court)
  • Doctor Facing Life in Prison for Thousands of Opioid Doses (The New York Times)
  • Last Day podcast
  • How Trump’s Defenders Will Be Remembered (The Atlantic)
  • Trump Was Repeatedly Warned That Ukraine Conspiracy Theory Was ‘Completely Debunked’ (The New York Times)

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Topics Discussed:

Impeachment Inquiry

The Whistleblower

Joseph Maguire Testimony

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Washington Post Timeline

Lawfare Timeline

Reuters Timeline

CNN Timeline

Whistleblower Complaint

Call memorandum

Acting DNI hearing

LA Times on Trump calling whistleblower informants spies


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We are releasing our conversation on the Nightly Nuance to everyone due to the historic nature of the day's news events. On September 24, 2019, Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi formally announced an impeachment inquiry into President Donald Trump.


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Impeachment is a hot topic in the news right now. We'll be talking about it more on Tuesday's episode, but today we're covering the history, purpose, and process of impeachment.

Resources About Impeachment:

  • High Crimes and Misdemeanors
  • House of Representatives: Impeachment
  • 1993: Senate Impeachment Trial Powers Upheld
  • Is Obstruction an Impeachable Offense? History Says Yes

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Topics Discussed:

Trump, Biden, and Ukraine (02:12)

UN General Assembly (14:47)

Climate Strike (16:26)

Israeli Election (19:52)

Compliments: Rep. Paul Mitchell & Homelessness in Nevada (22:59)

Modern Labor Movement (28:28)

Outside of Politics (1:05:53)

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  • Ideas at Work (October 16)
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  • Zones of Regulation

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Five Things You Need to Know About Labor Unions:

  1. The American labor movement sprang to life with industrialization and resulted in many of the workplace protections we enjoy today. (02:02)

  2. Union membership peaked in the mid-20th century but struggled with racist and sexist policies as well as corruption within the leadership and anti-union government policies. (11:10)

  3. As private union membership began to decrease, public service unions began to grow. (17:57)

  4. We are also seeing the rise of organized action beyond the public sector as well. (20:04)

  5. There is also a rise of collective action inside tech about both worker issues and societal issues. (21:46)

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Episode Resources:

  • The History of Unions in the United States (Investopedia)
  • Labor Movement (History Channel)
  • Our Labor History Timeline (ALF-CIO)
  • Eight-Hour Day Movement (Encyclopedia.com)
  • Haymarket Riot (History Channel)
  • Did Black Rebellion Win the Civil War? (JSTOR Daily)
  • Labor, Recreation, and Rest: The Movement for the Eight-Hour Day (University of Maryland)
  • Commonwealth v. Hunt (Wikipedia)

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Topics Discussed:

Saudi Aramco Drone Strike (02:37)

Purdue Pharma Bankruptcy (09:31)

Brett Kavanaugh...Again (11:53)

GM Labor Strike (19:17)

Compliments: Adam Schiff & Attitudes About Vaping (20:42)

The Democratic Debate: Round Three (26:59)

Outside of Politics (54:23)

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  • Pantsuit Politics Episode Guide (scroll down to see the Kavanaugh confirmation episodes)
  • Brett Kavanaugh Fit In With the Privileged Kids. She Did Not. (The New York Times)
  • The Democrats’ Trust Exercise (The New Yorker)

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John Bolton (02:21)

The Bahamas (06:50)

Bombing Iraq (11:47)

North Korean Weapons (15:03)

The Battle of the Dans (17:46)

Legislating the Gig Economy (23:55)

Rural Broadband Access (36:02)

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  • "Death to America" billboards pop up in Baghdad. It's a message from Iran. (CBS News)
  • North Korea confirms second test launch of multiple rocket launcher (CBS News)
  • Uber says drivers aren’t part of its ‘usual course’ of business (CNBC)
  • How Kentucky Gambled for Hundreds of Millions of Dollars From a Broadband Program It Didn’t Qualify for (ProPublica)

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Topics Discussed:

Afghanistan and Peace Talks (01:55)

Republican Primaries (13:25)

Compliments: Gov. Gretchen Whitmer and University of Tennessee (19:39)

IDEA Funding (25:14)

Outside of Politics (51:59)

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  • Ideas at Work (October 16)
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Afghanistan and Peace Talks:

  • Pantsuit Politics Episode Guide (scroll down for links to our 9/11 series)
  • The U.S. War in Afghanistan (Council on Foreign Relations)
  • How Trump’s Plan to Secretly Meet With the Taliban Came Together, and Fell Apart (The New York Times)
  • Pentagon identifies US soldier killed in suicide car bomb attack in Afghanistan (CNN)
  • The Real Donald Trump Is a Character on TV (The New York Times)

Republican Primaries:

  • Republicans in three states cancel presidential nominating contests for 2020 (CBS News)
  • Republicans to scrap primaries and caucuses as Trump challengers cry foul (Politico)

Governor Gretchen Whitmer (Compliments):

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Hurricanes and Climate (02:37)

CNN Climate Town Hall (03:44)

Campaign Contributions (15:12)

Brexit and Democracy (20:25)

Here's how you can help Hurricane Dorian victims (CNN)

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  • Pantsuit Politics Live in Elizabethtown (September 28)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Ideas at Work (October 16)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

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Sarah talks with Amye Archer and Loren Kleinman, editors of If I Don't Make It, I Love You, a collection of narratives from survivors of school shootings in America. To help get a copy of this book in the hands of every U.S. Senator, visit their GoFundMe campaign.

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Topics Discussed:

FEMA Disaster Relief Fund (03:51)

Trump Administration and LGBT Issues (14:27)

Kirsten Gillibrand (31:07)

Georgia Senate Race (36:24)

Kentucky Senate Race (38:47)

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  • Pantsuit Politics Live in Elizabethtown (September 28)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Ideas at Work (October 16)
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Episode Resources:

  • As Puerto Rico Braces For Storm, DHS, FEMA To Move $271 Million To Border Operations (NPR)
  • DHS FY 2019 Southwest Border Emergency Transfer and Reprogramming (U.S. Department of Homeland Security)
  • Trump admin asks Supreme Court not to extend sex discrimination ban to sexual orientation (The Hill)
  • Court to take up LGBT rights in the workplace (SCOTUS Blog)
  • Gerald Lynn Bostock vs. Clayton County, Georgia (Supreme Court)
  • Harris Funeral Homes vs. Equal Employment Opportunity Commission (Supreme Court)
  • The September Democratic Debate Will Be One Night Only (The New York Times)
  • Kirsten Gillbrand's Departure Video

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Topics Discussed:

The G7 Summit (03:24)

Compliments: Joe Walsh & Bill deBlasio (16:40)

The Border Crisis (23:38)

Outside of Politics (51:16)

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Episode Resources:

  • Health Coverage of Immigrants (Henry J Kaiser Family Foundation)
  • Find a Health Center (National Association of Community Health Centers)
  • What Would Giving Health Care to Undocumented Immigrants Mean? (The New York Times)
  • 10 ways to manage the migration crisis (The Guardian)
  • The Hard Realities of Mass Migration (To the Best of Our Knowledge)

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Topics Discussed:

  1. There is a legitimate rise in people seeking to cross the border both illegally and legally, but we are not at record levels of immigration. (02:33)

  2. The Northern Triangle (08:33)

  3. For most of our history, border deportations were pretty informal if not absent. (14:20)

  4. The Trump administration does not believe the U.S. should welcome the persecuted or oppressed. (18:57)

  5. Increased migration to the US is part of an international trend -- this could be the new normal. (23:51)

Referenced:

  • Our 2016 primer on immigration
  • General Chapman's Last Stand (Revisionist History with Malcolm Gladwell)
  • Let Me Count the Ways (This American Life)
  • Radiolab Border Trilogy

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Episode Resources:

  • Trump scores partial win on asylum ban as court narrows injunction (Politico)
  • Thousands of asylum-seekers left waiting at the US-Mexico border (PRI)
  • Trump officials pressing to slash refugee admissions to zero next year (Politico)
  • New Border Apprehension Numbers Show Brutal Effect of ‘Metering’ at Ports of Entry (WOLA)
  • Central America’s Violent Northern Triangle (Council on Foreign...

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Topics Discussed:

Economy (02:29)

Native Presidential Forum (12:08)

Kabul Wedding Attack (13:55)

Disabled People and Gun Control (16:09)

Compliments: Beto O'Rourke & California Law Enforcement (17:40)

Defining the Political Spectrum (26:59)

Antifa (30:41)

Proud Boys (35:17)

Dealing with Extremist Ideologies in America (39:54)

Outside of Politics (58:30)

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  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Ideas at Work (October 16)
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The Economy:

  • Trump tests a materialistic message to voters (CNN)
  • In Economic Warning Signals, Trump Sees Signs of a Conspiracy (The New York Times)
  • Five of the world's biggest economies are at risk. Here's where the US stands (CNN)

Proud Boys, Antifa, and Liberal Democracy:

  • The assault on conservative journalist Andy Ngo, explained (Vox)
  • What Is Antifa? Explaining the Movement to Confront the Far Right (The New York Times)
  • Can you really be a fascist without being a racist? (Politics.co.uk)

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The Constitution and its amendments are the foundation of American democracy. Yet, we are continually debating their meaning. We're going back to basics and breaking down some of the most hotly debated amendments to help us all understand them on a historical level.

In this episode, Beth talks with Dr. Michael Baranowski, political science professor and host of The Politics Guys, about the Tenth Amendment.

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  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

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Topics Discussed:

Jeffrey Epstein (03:35)

Kashmir (12:54)

Trump Immigration Policies (16:24)

Compliments: Tulsi Gabbard and Colombia (23:58)

The Presidency and Empathy (28:39)

Gun Policy Proposals (36:52)

Outside of Politics (01:07:07)

Resources:

  • Epstein’s Death Has a Simpler Explanation (The Atlantic)
  • Before Jail Suicide, Jeffrey Epstein Was Left Alone and Not Closely Monitored (The New York Times)
  • Safety Concerns Grow as Inmates Are Guarded by Teachers and Secretaries (The New York Times)
  • Jeffrey Epstein: How conspiracy theories spread after financier's death (BBC News)
  • Don’t call victims of sex trafficking ‘young women’ by Swanee Hunt (Boston Globe)
  • India’s Move in Kashmir: Unpacking the Domestic and International Motivations and Implications (Lawfare)
  • India revokes Kashmir's special status: All the latest updates (Al Jazeera)
  • Technology Could End Mass Shootings (Tech News World)
  • Background Checks Save Lives and Protect Our Communities (Everytown)
  • What Are ‘Red Flag’ Gun Laws, and How Do They Work? (The New York Times)
  • Assault Weapons (Giffords Law Center)
  • Former NBA player given prison for selling guns stolen in train heist (Chicago Tribune)
  • The Radical Vision of Toni Morrison (The New York Times)

Events and Interviews:

  • Nuance Nation Tour tickets
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)

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The Constitution and its amendments are the foundation of American democracy. Yet, we are continually debating their meaning. We're going back to basics and breaking down some of the most hotly debated amendments to help us all understand them on a historical level.

In this episode, Sarah talks with Angela J. Davis about the fourth, fifth, and sixth amendments.

Intro: (00:50)

4th Amendment: (02:52)

5th Amendment: (15:14)

6th Amendment: (26:30)

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  • Nuance Nation Tour tickets
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

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Topics Discussed:

The Democratic Primary Debates: Round Two (02:39)

Compliments: Canadian Doctors & California College Professors (15:42)

Mass Shootings (20:53)

Outside of Politics (56:31)

Additional Resources:

  • What Explains U.S. Mass Shootings? International Comparisons Suggest an Answer
  • The American Exception
  • Maybe You Should Talk to Someoneby Loti Gottlieb

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  • Nuance Nation Tour tickets
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

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The Constitution and its amendments are the foundation of American democracy. Yet, we are continually debating their meaning. We're going back to basics and breaking down some of the most hotly debated amendments to help us all understand them on a historical level.

In this episode, Beth talks with Dr. Kristin Goss of Duke University about the second amendment.

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  • Nuance Nation Tour tickets
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

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The Constitution and its amendments are the foundation of American democracy. Yet, we are continually debating their meaning. We're going back to basics and breaking down some of the most hotly debated amendments to help us all understand them on a historical level.

In this episode, Sarah talks with her constitutional law professor, Stephen Wermiel, about the first amendment.

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  • Nuance Nation Tour tickets
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

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Topics Discussed:

The Mueller Testimony (6:05)

Puerto Rico (32:26)

The Federal Budget (36:42)

Events and Interviews:

  • Nuance Nation Tour tickets
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

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Topics Discussed:

Hong Kong (4:16)

Puerto Rico (8:04)

Iran (12:20)

Compliment the Other Side: The Trump Administration (22:50)

Beth's Big Announcement (24:23)

Minimum Wage (39:53)

Budget (48:53)

Mueller Testimony (54:36)

Outside of Politics (57:58)

Additional Resources:

  • Fast Food Burnout
  • Pantsuit Politics on the Minimum Wage
  • Years and Years

Events and Interviews:

  • Nuance Nation Tour tickets
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

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Resources:

  • Am I an American?by Ibram X. Kendi

Events and Interviews:

  • Nuance Nation Tour tickets
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

Sponsors:

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Topics Discussed:

Trump's Tweets (03:07)

The Border Camps (20:36)

Compliment the Other Side: Tabitha Isner & the Trump Administration (31:35)

Campaign Finance (37:29)

Outside of Politics (01:20:32)

Resources:

  • Tabitha Isner Deposition
  • Citizens United and campaign finance
  • The Awakened Family by Shefali Tsabary
  • Adam Gopnik on The Ezra Klein Show

Events and Interviews:

  • Nuance Nation Tour tickets
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

Sponsors:

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  • ThirdLove
  • Ritual

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Events and Interviews:

  • Get tickets for the Nuance Nation tour today! Tickets are now on sale for the Bay Area and Southern California.
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

Campaign Finance Resources:

  • Swilling the Planters With Bumbo: When Booze Bought Elections
  • Political Patronage
  • Mitch McConnell: Election ordinance is, in part, reaction to past excesses
  • How Nonprofits Spend Millions on Elections and Call it Public Welfare
  • 2020 Democrats’ campaign finance pledges, explained
  • From George Washington to Shaun McCutcheon: A brief-ish history of campaign finance reform
  • Context of '1883: Law Prohibits Government from Soliciting Campaign Donations from Civil Service Workers'
  • A look at the impact of Citizens United on its 9th anniversary
  • Money-in-Politics Timeline
  • Public funding of presidential elections
  • How Our Campaign Finance System Compares to Other Countries
  • International campaign finance: How do countries compare?
  • 7 Other Nations That Prove Just How Absurd U.S. Elections Really Are

Sponsors:

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Topics Discussed:

The Women's World Cup (03:43) Sudan (09:41) Iran (14:23) Compliment the Other Side: Rep. Bennie Thompson & Connie Morella (25:33) The Census (31:25) Outside of Politics (53:41)

Resources:

  • Why Megan Rapinoe's brother, Brian, is her greatest heartbreak, and hope
  • The USWNT is after something far more subversive than just better pay
  • Sudan’s military and civilian opposition have reached a power-sharing deal
  • Sudan's pro-democracy movement, military agree to share power
  • Sudan's political transition remains at risk despite power-sharing deal
  • Trump says Iran 'better be careful' as Tehran increases uranium enrichment
  • How US-Iran war could play out in Iraqi theater (Kerry Boyd Anderson)
  • Pantsuit Politics interview with Sean McFate
  • The Guilty Pleasures of Mansion Porn

Census Resources:

  • U.S. Government Accountability Office
  • Department of Commerce v. New York
  • U.S. Census Bureau at a Glance
  • Why The Census Debate Matters To Corporate Leaders
  • After removing a citizenship question on the 2020 census, the DOJ is trying to put it back on — at Trump’s request
  • Trump 'determined' to add citizenship question to census, top immigration official says

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Resources:

  • Inspire U.S.
  • Meet Claire Harmon

Events and Interviews:

  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

Sponsors:

  • Audible

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Resources:

  • Missy Bird website
  • Missy Bird Facebook
  • Missy Bird Twitter
  • Missy Bird Instagram

Events and Interviews:

  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

Sponsors:

  • Silk Therapeutics
  • Lola
  • Simple Health

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Topics Discussed:

Wednesday night debate (01:46)

Thursday night debate (27:13)

Events and Interviews:

  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

Sponsors:

  • The American Beverage Association
  • Vistaprint

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Topics Discussed:

  • Detention Centers at the Border (05:14)
  • E. Jean Carroll's Rape Accusation (26:25)
  • Compliment the Other Side: Tucker Carlson & Governor Kate Brown (32:05)
  • True Crime (41:31)
  • The Enneagram and Parenting (01:02:11)

Resources:

  • Why a Government Lawyer Argued Against Giving Immigrant Kids Toothbrushes
  • Hideous Men (E. Jean Carroll's essay)
  • 12 Reasons We Love True Crime, According to the Experts
  • What One Researcher Discovered About America's True Crime Obsession
  • Don't Use My Family For Your True Crime Stories
  • I opened up about my stalker to a true crime podcast. Here’s why it helped me heal.
  • As Making a Murderer returns, is the obsession with true crime turning nasty?
  • Netflix’s Ted Bundy documentary and the problem with peak true crime
  • Our addiction to true crime has a human cost
  • Why our true crime obsession is bad for society
  • Is our growing obsession with true crime a problem?
  • Why are we obsessed with true crime and what is it doing to our minds?
  • The Complete Enneagram: 27 Paths to Greater Self-Knowledge by Beatrice Chestnut

Events and Interviews:

  • Ambition Out Loud podcast
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

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Topics Discussed:

  • Mark Charles (02:43)
  • Reparations (07:18)
  • Joe Biden (16:15)
  • The New York Times Meet the Candidate videos

Events and Interviews:

  • Speaking Your Brand podcast
  • United and Together podcast
  • Minnesota Public Radio with Kerri Miller
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

Sponsors:

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  • Away
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Mark Charles:

  • Mark Charles website and campaign site
  • Mark Charles enters 2020 race
  • Mark Charles on America's apology
  • The Tragedy Expert on Without Fail

Events and Interviews:

  • Speaking Your Brand podcast
  • United and Together podcast
  • Podcast Movement (August 13-16)
  • Evolving Faith (October 4-5)
  • Blissdom (November 14-16)

Sponsors:

  • The American Beverage Association
  • Ritual
  • Express VPN

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Today, we're featuring two incredible women who are running for Senate in 2020. MJ Hegar is running against incumbent John Cornyn in Texas. Stephany Rose Spaulding, who spoke to us during her 2018 campaign for Congress, is running for the Democratic nomination in Colorado.

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We discuss the "deal" the administration made with Mexico over tariffs and Hong Kong protests about extradition legislation. Beth compliments Sen. Catherine Cortez Masto of Nevada and Sarah compliments states working to overturn the death penalty. In our main segment, we return to our conversation about Brexit and share what we think will happen. Outside of politics, we talk accents and celebrate Nicholas Holland's 40th birthday.

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Despite the fact that Brexit has been a thing for years now, things are still a mess over in the United Kingdom as they attempt to decide exactly how this is going to go down. Today, we're breaking down what you need to know about Brexit before we discuss our opinions about it on Tuesday's episode.

We'll be answering all these questions and more:

  1. How did Britain get to be in the European Union in the first place?
  2. How did Bexit became a thing?
  3. What's in the divorce deal?
  4. What is the Irish backstop and why is it complicating things?
  5. What happens after Theresa May leaves office?

Brexit Resources:

  • Financial Times Brexit Coverage
  • What's the difference between the withdrawal agreement and political declaration?
  • What's in the political declaration?
  • BBC correspondents on the draft deal
  • Your simple guide to the UK leaving the EU

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We start by talking about developments in the 2020 field, including the addition of Mark Charles, Kirsten Gillibrand's failure to launch, and security risks exemplified by what happened to Kamala Harris. We also share our heartbreak over the shooting in Virginia Beach and ponder President Trump's state visit to the United Kingdom.

For Compliment the Other Side, Beth honors the work of Democrats in Connecticut who are working on a new budget package.

In our main segment, we respond to listener Cody's message about Pride Month. We share our personal journeys in relation to LGBTQ rights and how we got to the positions we hold now.

Finally, we reflect again on the life and legacy of Rachel Held Evans and what an honor it was to be at her funeral this weekend. It was truly a sacred experience and we are so grateful to have known her. We encourage you to take the time to watch the funeral service yourself.

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We talk through the news of the week, including that nine minute press conference that Robert Mueller gave urging us all to read his report. We also discuss the Israeli election, the potential boycotts of red states, and the absurd reason the USS John McCain is in the news.

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We discuss the tension between President Trump and Congress, specifically the House of Representatives led by Speaker Nancy Pelosi. We also share our conversation with Lt. Col. Jeannette Gaudry Haynie, a Naval Academy graduate an attack helicopter pilot who is doing important research focusing on the gendered nature of conflict.

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After two heavy episodes diving into the weeds of abortion law, we're lightening things up today. We share our great conversation with Willie Geist about journalism, the politics of the 2020 presidential race, and what's in his Netflix queue.

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We start with a few current events including the House passing the Equality Act, Jared Kushner and the new immigration law, Justin Amash's important Twitter thread, and a surprising Compliment the Other Side from Sarah. Then, we dig in on the complexities of abortion law in America and what we think will happen next. Outside of politics, Sarah shares her thoughts on the Game of Thrones finale and Beth has feelings about the finale of this season of Survivor.

Recommended Resources

  • LGBTQ anti-discrimination bill passes House
  • House passes sweeping anti-discrimination bill to expand protections of LGBT people
  • President Trump unveils new immigration plan
  • Key facts about U.S. immigration policies and proposed changes
  • Michigan GOP congressman says Trump’s conduct impeachable
  • Missouri Democratic lawmakers slam abortion bill
  • Missouri Lawmakers Pass Bill Criminalizing Abortion at About 8 Weeks of Pregnancy

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Today, we're sharing five things you need to know about abortion law in advance of a deeper conversation about recent events on Tuesday's episode.

  1. Abortion has a long emotional history in the US that Roe vs. Wade didn't stop.
  2. Ohio, Mississippi, Kentucky, and Georgia have passed "heart beat bills".
  3. Heartbeat bills and outright bans on abortion in all circumstances are surging in popularity, despite the fact that public opinion is largely more nuanced about abortion.
  4. Stare decisions recently took a hit on the Supreme Court.
  5. Kentucky's law has already been struck down in court. Mississippi and Ohio's are already being challenged. Georgia and Alabama laws are also expected to be challenged.

Resources on Abortion Law

  • New poll finds "dramatic shift" on abortion attitudes
  • Gallup polls on abortion
  • Abortion would automatically be illegal in these states if Roe v. Wade is overturned
  • Abortion Opponents Think They’re Winning. Have They Set Themselves Up to Fail?
  • ‘The Time Is Now’: States Are Rushing to Restrict Abortion, or to Protect It

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We share thoughts on a variety of international news stories including trade with China, conflict with Iran, and Russian interference in European elections. Then, we dive deep on rural infrastructure and how the lack thereof is affecting America. Outside of politics, Sarah fumes about Game of Thrones and Beth contemplates different kinds of love on her 12th anniversary.

International News Recommendations:

  • Houthi Rebels in Yemen
  • Four Ships Sabotaged in UAE
  • US Air Carrier in the Gulf
  • Russia and the European Elections

Compliment the Other Side: Democratic Lawmakers and the Death Penalty

Rural America Recommendations:

  • The Hard Truths of Trying to ‘Save’ the Rural Economy
  • The Opioid Epidemic in Kermit, W.Va.
  • In deep-red West Virginia, Warren touts plan to fight opioid crisis
  • Sanders' plan for rural America isn't much of a plan
  • They Were Promised Coding Jobs in Appalachia. Now They Say It Was a Fraud.
  • Kentucky’s $1.5 Billion Information Highway to Nowhere
  • Why Rural America Needs Cities
  • A New American Dream: The Rise of Immigrants in Rural America
  • Rural America is Stranded in the Dial-Up Age
  • How Rural Communities Are Embracing Immigrants and Thriving as a Result

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It's been a diverse news week and our conversation in this episode reflects that. We talk about Congress holding Attorney General Bill Barr in contempt and where things may be going next on the investigation/impeachment front. We also talk about the multitude of countries this with which this administration seems interested in going to war.

We share our heartbreak over the school shootings this week and the hero students who sacrificed themselves for their classmates.

Finally, we have a conversation about drugs. Denver has decided to decriminalize psychedelics and Sarah is here for it. Beth, not so much. What we are both here for is a serious conversation about pharmaceutical advertising, something President Trump has been tweeting about lately.

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In our first segment, we share our grief over the death of Rachel Held Evans. We also talk about conflict in the Middle East (in both Gaza and Iran) and the continuing drama between Attorney General Bill Barr and Congress. In the main segment, we have a conversation about some big ideas that have been floating around the internet lately including the Bring Down the House documentary on Netflix, women working long hours and experiencing burnout in the workplace, tragedy, and empathy.

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Our recap of and conversation about the Barr hearing leads us into a deeper conversation about elections, past and future. How should we be talking about 2016? Should we care what Hillary Clinton has to say? Who should we trust? We talk about all that and more. Then, we share Sarah's conversation with Lauren Leader, author of Crossing the Thinnest Line and CEO of All In Together, about the variety of ways women can be politically engaged.

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First up, we discuss current events, including the Chabad synagogue shooting, the coverage of Joe Biden compared to female Democratic candidates, and AG Barr's testimony. In the main segment, we have an in-depth conversation about impeachment and whether or not Congress should consider impeaching President Trump. Finally, we talk about Avengers: Endgame. Yes, there are spoilers, but don't worry! They are at the end of the show and can easily be skipped.

Recommended Resources:

  • She was at the synagogue to mourn her mother. She was killed while protecting the rabbi.
  • San Diego synagogue shooting casts spotlight on rapidly growing Orthodox Jewish Chabad movement
  • Barr Threatens Not to Testify Before House, but Democrats May Subpoena Him
  • Compliment the Other Side: Pennsylvania Democrats

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We discuss church tragedies around the world, including the hundreds dead in Sri Lanka, the fundraising to rebuild Notre Dame, and the churches which were burned in Louisiana. We also talk about Iran, John Bolton, and what's going on with our Middle Eastern diplomacy. During Compliment the Other Side, Beth compliments Minnesota women working on climate change and Sarah compliments Mitt Romney.

In our main segment, we break down the Mueller report. We read the whole thing and do our best to discuss it in a measured, thoughtful way. We also consider what actions may or should be taken as a result of the report.

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We share our compelling conversation with Marianne Williamson, teacher, speaker, author, and, now, presidential candidate. We were honored to speak with her about a variety of issues facing America today. She shared her vision for the future of the country and how she envisions her part in that future.

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We discuss the impending release of the Mueller report, President Trump's plan to send immigrants to sanctuary cities, and the continued controversy around Ilhan Omar's comments about 9/11. We also check in on the 2020 primary, including thoughts on how the coverage of Mayor Pete Buttigieg contrasts with that of the women candidates. Then, we share our conversation with Marjorie Skiba, an American expat living in Denmark; she shares what it's like to move from America to a socialist country. Plus, Beth shares what she's ready and Sarah talks Game of Thrones.

Compliment the Other Side: Texas State Rep. Jeff Leach and Nevada State Senators Nicole Canizzaro and Julia Ratti

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We talk with Kansas House of Representatives member Stephanie Clayton, who switched political parties last year. Stephanie shares with us what that process looked like for her and her motivations behind it. Plus, the response of her constituents might surprise you. You can follow Rep. Clayton on Twitter @SSCJoCoKs.

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We follow-up on our conversation about Joe Biden from Friday's episode. His actions over the weekend have shifted Beth's position a bit. We also discuss the end of Kirstjen Nielsen's tenure at the Department of Homeland Security and Pete Buttigieg's comments on faith and morality. In our main segment, we share our conversation with Senator Maggie Hassan from our live event in at South Church in Portsmouth, NH. To finish out, we share the Q&A segment from the event.

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The conversation around Joe Biden's potential presidential campaign is getting contentious. We have some disagreements about it as well. We talk about all the distinct questions we believe we should be asking about a Biden candidacy. Plus, we talk about Kathy Griffin and how that picture has impacted her life and career.

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We're honored to be joined for the whole show by Rep. John Delaney, a Democratic candidate for president. He chats with us about healthcare, the border crisis, and the call for Rep. Schiff's resignation. We compliment all the other side and then Rep. Delaney shares the vision of his candidacy for president. Plus, outside of politics, we talk about his NCAA bracket and the great work his wife is doing.

Recommended Resources:

  • John Delaney for President
  • The Healthcare Hot Potato
  • Border Patrol Struggles with Surge
  • DHS Asks to Deport Migrant Children

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The response to the Barr letter continues and the fight to have the full Mueller report released continues to escalate. We discuss that and why President Trump seems intent on wasting this positive news cycle. Then, we're joined by Kelly Werder to discuss 50/50 by 2020, a bipartisan political action committee determined to see gender parity in our elected officials. They are sponsoring the Courage to Run 5K across the country on April 13. We're extra fond of them because our book is their first pick for their book club!

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March is National Criminal Justice Month and we're diving in deep on that subject today. Friday's episode will help get you ready for this conversation. We also are discuss the newly released Mueller report. On Compliment the Other Side, Sarah compliments Justin Amash and Beth compliments Senator Lauren Book. Outside of politics, Sarah went hiking and Beth learned about perimenopause.

Criminal Justice Resources:

  • The Bail Project
  • The Sentencing Project: Collateral Consequences
  • National Inventory of Collateral Consequences of Conviction

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March is National Criminal Justice Month. Plus, criminal justice reform is one of the few pieces of major legislation that has been passed with bipartisan consensus under the Trump administration. We'll be talking more about this issue on Tuesday's episode. Today, though, we're getting you ready for that conversation by sharing five things you need to know about criminal justice reform.

  1. The cost of the criminal justice system can begin before a person is every convicted of a crime.
  2. The Bail Project
  3. How the bail system in the US became such a mess — and how it can be fixed
  4. Bail reform, which could save millions of unconvicted people from jail, explained
  5. The Economics of Bail and Pretrial Detention
  6. Once you're in the court system, the process is difficult and representation is hard to come by.
  7. Plead guilty, go home. Plead not guilty, stay in jail.
  8. The Trial Penalty: The Sixth Amendment Right To Trial on the Verge of Extinction and How To Save It
  9. Overworked and Underpaid: America's Public Defended Crisis
  10. If you plea or are convicted, sentencing is another layer of inequity.
  11. The First Step Act, explained
  12. Trump administration looks to Texas as it pushes a criminal justice reform bill
  13. A prison sentence is often just the beginning of the punishment which can continue far beyond the prison walls.
  14. Is it a poll tax if felons have to pay court costs and fees to regain voting rights?
  15. Invisible Punishment: The Collateral Consequences of Mass Imprisonment
  16. Let's talk about the death penalty.
  17. Death Penalty Fast Facts
  18. Nine facts about monetary sanctions in the criminal justice system

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On today's show, we discuss a variety of important news stories from around the globe. We discuss flooding in Nebraska, continued Brexit drama, Governor Newsom's death penalty decision, President Trump's first veto, and, in our main segment, the tragic shooting in Christchurch, New Zealand. The shooting raises discussion about gun control, terrorism, and white nationalism. Outside of politics, Beth finally saw Hamilton and Sarah is ready for spring cleaning.

Recommended Resources:

  • Deadly Flooding in the Midwest
  • Governor Newsom and the Death Penalty
  • Newsom Takes His Case National
  • Compliment the Other Side: New Mexico's Legislature Funds Education
  • At Least 50 Killed in New Zealand Shooting
  • The Rise of White Nationalism on Popular Information

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In today's episode, we're joined by Professor Deborah Lipstadt, an expert in Holocaust studies. Professor Lipstadt helps us understand the controversies surrounding the Women's March and Representative Omar, and she advises us on how to thoughtfully discuss and critique America's relationship with Israel.

But first, we dive into the week's news. Paul Manafort received 43 additional months in prison from Judge Amy Berman Jackson, and he's been indicted by Manhattan's District Attorney on state charges.

After great anticipation, Beto O'Rourke has announced his candidacy for the Democratic Party's nomination. We're a little confused by his splashy Vanity Fair rollout and campaign announcement video.

We also talk about Operation Varsity Blues and the state of college admissions, wealth, and parenting in America. Sarah recommended these three episodes of Revisionist History: Carlos Doesn't Remember, Food Fight, and My Little Hundred Million.

Thanks again to Professor Lipstadt for joining us in conversation. She is the Dorot Professor of Modern Jewish History and Holocaust Studies at Emory University. Her books include The Eichmann Trial, Denial; Holocaust History on Trial (a National Jewish Book Award-winner); Denying the Holocaust: the Growing Assault on Truth and Memory; and Beyond Belief: the American Press and the Coming of the Holocaust. She lives in Atlanta. Her latest book is Antisemitism: Here and Now. Rachel Weisz portrayed Professor Lipstadt in the 2016 film Denial.

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We recorded a live episode in Sarah's hometown, Paducah, Kentucky. Our comments about President Trump signing Bibles led us to a bigger conversation about what kind of presidential candidate we need in 2020. Then, we discuss Paul Manafort's prison sentence. In the main segment, we discuss Elizabeth Warren's desire to break up the tech giants and why we expect her ideas to gain traction. Outside of politics, we discuss Top Chef and Captain Marvel.

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To celebrate International Women's Day, we are sharing clips from the incredible event we did in partnership with Ambassador Swanee Hunt in January. The event brought together an eclectic group of women, each working to advance the cause of women in politics in their own way. You'll hear short clips in today's episode, but we are providing the full audio on our Patreon page.

Individual Interviews:

  • Kelly Dittmar, Center for American Women & Politics
  • Muthoni Wambu Kraal, Former Vice President of National Outreach and Training of EMILY's List, National Political and Organizing Director for the DNC
  • Sarah Riggs Amico, Businesswoman, 2018 Candidate for Lt. Gov. of Georgia
  • Marianne Schnall, Founder of What Will It Take Movements

Action Steps Panel:

  • A'shanti Gholar, Former Political Director, Emerge America
  • Courtney Hill, Political Consultant, Emerge America
  • Sabrina Schaeffer, Board Member, RightNOW
  • Cynthia Terrell, Executive Director, RepresentWomen

Primary Hurdles Panel:

  • Julie Conway, Executive Director, VIEW PAC
  • Rebecca Schuller, Executive Director, Winning for Women
  • Rina Shah, Co-Founder, Women's Public Leadership Network
  • Corie Whalen, Writer, Former Capitol Hill Comms. Director

Media Matters Panel:

  • Elisa Lees Muñoz, Executive Director, International Women's Media Foundation
  • Susan Page, Washtington Bureau Chief, USA TODAY
  • Maureen Bunyan, Veteran TV Journalist

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We discuss news coming out of the Judicial Committee and two more Democratic candidates putting their name into the presidential primary. Then, we share a fascinating conversation with Sean McFate, author of The New Rules of War about how the nature of war has shifted dramatically and how American defense strategy needs to as well.

Recommended Resources:

  • Alabama Tornadoes
  • Judiciary Committee
  • John Hickenlooper Enters Democratic Primary
  • Jay Inslee Enters Democratic Primary
  • Compliment the Other Side: Rep. Katie Porter

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We discuss President Trump's abrupt departure from meetings with North Korean leader, Kim Jong-Un. We also talk about the decision of the United Methodist Church regarding LGBTQ congregants and clergy. Plus, our thoughts on Michael Cohen's testimony before the House Oversight Committee and the drama of election fraud in North Carolina.

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We talk about the United States and Venezuela, process some of the feedback from our conversation with Noah Rothman, compliment good constituent services and Republican responses to the national emergency, and share our conversation with the fabulous Courtney Hill of Polaris Strategies, who works to recruit black women to run for office. Outside of politics, we talk about our trip to New York, seeing Mean Girls on Broadway, and Sarah shares her thoughts about the Oscars.

Recommended Resources:

  • Mike Pence and Venezuela
  • Donald Trump and North Korea
  • Haley Stevens and Pop-Up Offices
  • Rand Paul and the National Emergency

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We share our conversation with columnist and author Noah Rothman about his new book Unjust and the social justice movement in America.

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We discuss the president's choice to declare a national emergency and what that looks like in the context of past emergencies. During Compliment the Other Side, Beth praises Mama Bears who are welcoming LGBTQ children into their communities and cautions about discriminatory legislation cropping up in state legislatures; Sarah is excited to see Republican Bill Weld considering a primary challenge to President Trump.

In our main segment, we break down the proposed Green New Deal and our different perspectives on it. Outside of politics, we're talking The Umbrella Academy on Netflix, reusable paper towels, and makeup.

Recommended Resources:

  • They Call Themselves Mama Bears. Churches that Mess with their LGBTQ Kids Should Listen Up.
  • The Green New Deal Is a Bad Idea, Not Just a Botched Rollout
  • Resusable Paper Towels

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We discuss the TVA and the latest problems between Paul Manafort and federal investigators. Then, we share 5 things you need to know about AOC's proposed Green New Deal. We'll share our opinions on this bold vision on Tuesday's episode.

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We touch briefly on the looming return of the government shutdown. Then, we talk about lots of men in power who are in varying levels of trouble: Jeff Bezos, Ralph Northam, and Justin Fairfax. In our main segment, we talk about the Democratic women running for president and whether or not media coverage of them has been sexist. Included in that discussion are our thoughts on Amy Klobuchar's staffing issues. Outside of politics, Beth watched Black Mirror and Sarah talks about her mother-son book club.

Recommended Resources:

  • Government Shutdown Looms Again
  • Jeff Bezos Medium post
  • National Enquirer Denies Extortion
  • National Enquirer Strikes Deal
  • Justin Fairfax and Ralph Northam
  • Compliment the Other Side: Mark Takano

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We talk about The Daily's coverage of Mitch McConnell and share our reactions to the State of the Union. Then, we share our conversation with Dr. David Campt about his work with the White Ally Toolkit. We talk with him about how to have positive, impactful conversations about race. We recommend you take a moment to watch his video about the situation surrounding Virginia governor Ralph Northam.

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We discuss Governor Ralph Northam and the immediate future of Virginian politics. Then, we share our thoughts on the State of the Union - both the speech itself and the actual state of the Union.

As we launch our book today, we couldn't be more grateful to each and every one of you for being a part of this community. We are so thankful that you have been part of our journey to bring this book into the world; we're so excited for you to read it. You can purchase it now - for yourself, for friends, for your representative, for your senator, for everyone!

Recommended Resources:

  • New York State Democrats Expand Voting Rights Immediately After Taking Power
  • Listen to our recent interview on the Ordinary Faith podcast.

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We continue our conversation about abortion from Tuesday's episode before addressing trade disputes around the globe. Then, we share Beth's follow-up conversation with Jessica Morse, who ran for Congress in California. They talk California wildfires, national security, and more.

Recommended Resources:

  • Dr. Tamara Tweel on Involuntary Miscarriages and Voluntary Abortions
  • Idaho Lawmakers Drafting Bill To Ban Abortions

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We discuss the shutdown reprieve, the indictment of Roger Stone, and bipartisan work around immigration. Then, we take on the heavy debate around new abortion laws in New York and Utah. Outside of politics, Sarah shares her opinion on Oscar-nominated movies and Beth has some thoughts about Top Chef.

Recommended Resources:

  • Trump Signs Bill Reopening Government for 3 Weeks in Surprise Retreat From Wall
  • Jerome Corsi confirms he is ‘Person 1’ in Roger Stone indictment, predicts he won't be charged
  • What The Roger Stone Indictment Does (And Doesn’t) Tell Us
  • Roger Stone indictment by federal grand jury
  • Roger Stone’s Arrest Is the Signal for Congress to Act
  • Compliment the Other Side: Bipartisan group in Congress wants to extend temporary protected status to Venezuelans fleeing unrest

Abortion:

  • Read the full text of the Reproductive Health Act
  • Long-stalled abortion bill passes New York Legislature
  • Abortion bills unveiled in the Utah State Legislature and they’re already facing threats of lawsuits
  • Dr. Tamara Tweel on Involuntary Miscarriages and Voluntary Abortions
  • Interview With a Woman Who Recently Had an Abortion at 32 Weeks

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We share our conversation with the delightful Anne Helen Petersen in which we talk about all the things: faith, politics, culture, millennials, burnout, and more.

Anne Helen Petersen's Work:

  • 2011 piece comparing Elizabeth Taylor with Brangelina
  • How Millennials Became the Burnout Generation
  • Here's What "Millennial Burnout" Is Like for 16 Different People

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On today's episode, we're talking about the Covington Catholic viral video from Washington DC this weekend and the fact that our government is still shutdown. In our main segment, we're talking about the power of house committees (if you haven't listened to Friday's episode, make sure that you hear the 5 things we think you need to know about house committees before this conversation). To close out, we'll talk about what's on our minds outside of politics.

Recommended Resources:

  • What the video from the incident at the Indigenous Peoples March tell us about what happened
  • The Shutdown and School Lunches
  • Shutdown: Day 31
  • Republicans Push Trump Immigration Plan, Seeking to Corner Democrats on Shutdown
  • Compliment the Other Side: Rep. Tony Cardenas

House Committees:

  • The 10 new Democratic House committee chairs who are about to make Trump’s life hell
  • Incoming Democratic tax chairman won't make quick grab for Trump's returns
  • Pallone: Ban of fossil fuel donations 'wrong way to go'
  • Maxine Waters letter
  • House Chairmen Issue Warning After President’s Statements on Cohen Testimony
  • Eliot Engel, House Foreign Affairs chairman, blasts Mike Pompeo over Mideast speech
  • The International Crisis of Donald Trump

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We do a lightning round on current events including the shutdown, Rand Paul's Canadian surgery, the Gillette commercial, and fast food in the White House. In our main segment, we break down what you need to know about House Committees: their history, how they are formed, and what exactly it is they do.

Recommended Resources:

  • House Committees Bibliography
  • The Importance of Committees
  • There’s a new select committee for modernizing Congress. What does it mean for legislative IT?
  • How you get appointed to a House Committee
  • Committee FAQs
  • Here Are America's Most Wanted (House Committee Chairmen)

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We start off today's show with a robust discussion of current events. We address the controversy around the leadership of the Women's March and why we still feel there is value in events like it. We also discuss the ongoing shutdown and new revelations about President Trump's interactions with the Russian government. Plus, in recognition of National Slavery and Human Trafficking Prevention Month, we are joined by Marissa Castellanos to discuss the politics of human trafficking and what steps we can take to aid in its prevention.

Recommended Resources:

  • Trump and GOP taking messaging hit on shutdown
  • Where does the Trump administration go from here?
  • Compliment the Other Side: Stephanie Horne and Mike DeWine

Resources on Human Trafficking:

  • Polaris Project
  • Typologies of Human Trafficking
  • Cyntoia Brown's Case
  • Marissa's Recommended Books: Girls Like Us by Rachel Lloyd, Slave by Mende Nazer, Overdressed by Elizabeth L. Cline, and The Travels of a T-shirt in the Global Economy by Pietra Rivoli

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We discuss the current state of the shutdown (spoiler: it doesn't seem to be changing much and that's not great) before sharing the second part of our conversation with Anne Bogel of Modern Mrs. Darcy.

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We discuss the shutdown, Elizabeth Warren's presidential announcement, and sexism in the Bernie Sanders campaign. Plus, we share the first part of our conversation with the delightful Anne Bogel, who joined us at the Cincinnati Podcast festival. Outside of politics, we talk about we admire Mary Poppins and Marie Kondo for the same reasons.

Recommended Resources:

  • Sanders Campaign Sexual Harassment
  • Sanders Campaign Sexism
  • Elizabeth Warren Announcement Video
  • Warren Kicks Off Presidential Run
  • Elizabeth Warren and Iowa
  • Women Candidates for President
  • Compliment the Other Side: Aid for California Wildfires

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We're talking about the shutdown, the newly inducted House of Representatives, and Mitt Romney's op-ed about the president. Plus, we share our inspiring conversation with Tabitha Isner.

Tabitha Isner Concession Speech

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Happy New Year! Today, we're sharing our hopes for 2019. We are wishing for a lot of things in politics, science, and culture. Plus, we're sharing our Word of the Year for 2019.

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Our candidate follow-up interviews continue. Today, we're talking with state candidates from Iowa, Oklahoma, and North Carolina: Lindsay James, Carri Hicks, and Erica McAdoo.

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We know that sometimes turning on the news can be a brutal emotional experience. The positive things happening in the world can get swept up in the avalanche of things that worry or scare us. We wanted to take a step back and appreciate some of the wonderful things that happened this year.

Good News in the Federal Government:

  • Congress Overhauls Sexual Harassment Policies
  • Bump Stocks Banned

Cultural Good News:

  • Falling Murder Rate
  • Women-Led Movies Succeed at the Box Office
  • Nobel Prize Awarded for Cancer Immunotherapy
  • Hope in the Face of Climate Change

Communities of Faith Protecting Others:

  • Rings of Peace Around Synagogues
  • Muslims Raise Money for Pittsburgh Synagogue
  • Dutch Church Holds Worship Marathon to Protect Migrant Family
  • Dutch Vigil Continues

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We're so thankful for each of you, our listeners. As a holiday gift, we're sharing the first chapter of our audiobook. We're so excited to share this work in its entirety with you in the new year, but, for now, we hope this whets your appetite for what is to come.

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Beth has read all the legalese surrounding the many legal jeopardies facing Trump world and breaks it down for us. Then, we share our follow-up conversations with Amy McGrath, Mary Throne, and Stephany Rose Spaulding.

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We talk about legislative issues which are holding up the federal budget including: the farm bill, disaster funding, flood insurance, the Violence Against Women Act, and red flag laws. Then, we share our conversation with Ashley Cecere about how government contracts work.

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We discuss that Oval Office meeting and how gender shapes our commentary of it. Plus, Beth explains what in the world the war in Yemen has to do with the Farm Bill. Finally, we share our conversation with Kati Hornung of VAratifyERA about her work for equal rights in Virginia.

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We're discussing Individual 1 and the latest updates from the Mueller investigation, plus sharing our follow-up conversation with Tiffany Bond, who ran for Congress as an Independent in Maine. Outside of politics, we're talking about the latest season of Top Chef.

Compliment the Other Side: I’m a Democrat and a Feminist. And I Support Betsy DeVos’s Title IX Reforms.

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We catch up with Missouri legislator Crystal Quade and Georgia lieutenant governor candidate, Sarah Riggs Amico. They share their experiences since we last spoke with them, what life has been like post-election, and what comes next for them.

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On today's episode, we're catching up on the news; there's been lots going on in the world as we had guest hosts last week. In our main segment, we remember President Bush, who passed away Friday. To close out, we talk about what we've loved watching lately: Netflix's The Bodyguard and Ralph Breaks the Internet.

Recommended Resources:

  • U.S.-China Trade Truce Gives Both Sides Political Breathing Room
  • USMCA Versus NAFTA on the Environment
  • Trump signs NAFTA replacement deal ahead of the G20 summit

Compliment the Other Side:

  • Bill Clinton: George H.W. Bush’s Oval Office note to me revealed the heart of who he was
  • The Patrician President and the Reporterette: A Screwball Story
  • Neil Gorsuch and Sonia Sotomayor Just Came Out Swinging Against Policing for Profit

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Sarah and Mayor Brandi Harless of Paducah, Kentucky share their personal experiences with the finances of local politics. They talk about the economics of making public office your side hustle and some policy ideas to help the current reality.

When Politics Is Your Side Hustle

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Beth and guest host Bryn talk about the news of the week, including the crisis at the border, news in Ukraine, and the status of the American automotive industry.

Recommended Resources:

  • Maryland and Gerrymandering
  • New Democrats in the House

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We're sharing the live podcast we recorded last weekend in Gettysburg, Pennsylvania. We talk extensively about how we discuss American stories like Thanksgiving and the Civil War. We also talk a little bit about the Georgia gubernatorial race and the response of Stacey Abrams to the results. Plus, we share the Q&A time with listeners at the event.

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The holiday is fast approaching and we've brought back Diana Butler Bass to discuss the politics of Thanksgiving. Plus, we talk about Nancy Pelosi, Theresa May, and the contentious conversation around female leadership. We also share some thoughts about criminal justice reform and the potential new legislation around the issue.

Resources for Thanksgiving:

  • Recognizing Native American Perspectives: Thanksgiving and the National Day of Mourning
  • Decolonizing Thanksgiving: A Toolkit for Combating Racism in Schools
  • The Future Is Indigenous: Decolonizing Thanksgiving
  • Are You Teaching the Real Story of the "First Thanksgiving"?
  • Teaching kids about Thanksgiving or Columbus? They deserve the real story

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CNN is suing the White House over Jim Acosta's press credentials and the midterms have put a spotlight on the need for serious election reforms. We discuss media access and how the partisanship around our elections affects the process of winning and losing.

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The President has appointed Matthew Whitaker as acting attorney general. We discuss what this means for the Mueller probe and for the newly-elected House majority. We also talk about the fires in California, the Thousand Oaks shooting, and our Veterans' Day gratitude moments.

Recommended Resources:

  • Fires in California
  • Why California Wildfires Are So Bad
  • Why Forest Fires Burn Cities
  • Thousand Oaks Shooting
  • Thousand Oaks Gunman Posts on Instagram During Shooting
  • Pete Davidson's SNL Apology
  • Macron's Armistice Day Remarks

Whitaker as Acting Attorney General:

  • A Quick Primer on the Legality of Appointing Matthew Whitaker as “Acting” Attorney General
  • I Was the Subject of a Political 'Witch Hunt.' Matt Whitaker Directed It.
  • Here are 5 reasons why Matthew Whitaker isn't attorney general material
  • 'Scam' Company Advised By Matthew Whitaker Threatened Victims, But Hundreds Filed Complaints Anyway

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For the first time ever over 100 women are going to Congress. In an avalanche of news, we're going to focus on the election We share our reflections on the midterm elections, including updates on all of "our" candidates. We also talk about the stories which have pushed the news cycle to move on from the election so quickly.

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In our first segment, we discuss the tragic yoga studio shooting in Florida. We're also sharing our thoughts about Iran on social media. In our main segment, we talk about Election Day and all the trends we've observed in this particular election cycle.

Recommended Resources:

  • Pantsuit Politics Live in Gettysburg tickets
  • Yoga Studio Shooting
  • Female Candidates Break Barriers, Except Financially

Candidate Interviews:

  • Tabitha Isner (February 20 episode)
  • Tiffany Bond (June 26 episode)
  • Carri Hicks (July 20 episode)
  • Amy McGrath (August 21 episode)
  • Stephany Rose Spaulding (August 31 episode)
  • Jessica Morse (September 21 episode)
  • Crystal Quade (September 28 episode)
  • Abigail Spanberger (October 2 episode)
  • Sarah Riggs Amico (October 5 episode)
  • Lindsay James (October 9 episode)
  • Erica McAdoo (October 26...

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The midterm elections are just around the corner. Today, we're sharing conversations with women leaders from both parties as you consider your options heading into the polls.

Recommended Resources:

  • Freedom Forum Institute - Women Candidates in 2018
  • Path to Parity: How Women Run and Win
  • Inclusive Security
  • Swanee Hunt's Website
  • Why don’t Republican women run the way Democrats do?

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Eleven people were murdered at the Tree of Life synagogue during the worst hate crime against the Jewish community in the US in recent memory. We discuss the violence and ugliness that continues to grip the country and share a conversation with another woman campaigning to make positive change: Mary Throne, Democratic candidate for governor in Wyoming.

Recommended Resources:

  • Synagogue survivor recounts terror
  • A Broken Jewish Community
  • Kentucky Kroger Shooting
  • Trump's Twitter and the Alt Right
  • Gratitude Moment: Human Pathogenic Bacteria Breakthrough
  • Mary Throne for Governor

Pantsuit Politics in the Wild:

  • Cincinnati Podcast Festival
  • Gettysburg Live Show

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As we get closer to Election day and the political rhetoric gets more intense, we've learned that at least seven bombs have been mailed to prominent Democrats. We discuss the political climate, a shooting in our home state, and talk with Erica McAdoo, candidate for the North Carolina Legislature.

Recommended Resources:

  • Pipe Bomb Packages
  • Kentucky Kroger Shooting
  • Presidential Phone Security
  • Erica McAdoo website
  • Erica McAdoo social: Facebook and Twitter

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Immigration and #metoo are back in the news. We discuss the group of people coming up through Central America in hopes of becoming Americans. We also react to The Daily podcast's look into Louis C.K.'s comedy comeback. Then, we share our conversation with Professor Lisa Swain about bias, truth, and the future of democracy.

Recommended Resources:

  • Amazon Invests in Closed Loop Fund
  • The Daily: Letting Louis C.K. Back Onstage

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This week's news has galvanized a new wave of conversations about what's at stake in the political landscape. We discuss the situation surrounding Jamal Khashoggi's death and The New York Times article questioning the place of nuance in our modern culture. Considering our whole deal is nuance, we have an extended conversation about what nuance and moderation mean to us and how power dynamics matter as a part of that conversation.

Then, we share Beth's conversation with author Christina Dalcher who wrote Vox, a novel about women's voices being taken away - literally. They talk about how feminism and modern politics did and did not influence Dalcher's work.

Recommended Resources:

  • Does This Moment in History Call for More ‘Nuance,’ or Less? (NYTimes)
  • Abigail Spanberger's Awesome Debate Closing Statement
  • Our Interview with Abigail Spanberger
  • Christina Dalcher website
  • Vox by Christina Dalcher

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The midterm elections are frequently described as possessing historic importance. Today, we're sharing resources and discussing how you can be an informed midterms voter.

Recommended Resources:

  • Politico Playbook
  • Elizabeth Warren Releases DNA Test
  • Beth's Gratitude Moment: Madelyn Ellen Linsenmeir Obituary
  • The Lazy Genius Meal Planner

Voter Resources:

  • Pantsuit Politics Community Midterm Election Resource
  • North Dakota Native IDs
  • Georgia Voter Registration
  • National Voter Registration (or change or confirm)
  • Rock the Vote
  • Vote Smart
  • Little Evidence of Chinese Meddling
  • Red Flags and Chinese Meddling
  • Russian Election Interference

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Hurricane Michael has brutalized the Florida panhandle, and journalist Jamal Khashoggi disappeared after entering a Saudi consulate in Turkey. In the midst of these crises, the President is focused on campaigning. We discuss the news and his USA Today op-ed about American healthcare and the partisan divide. That discussion leads us into a deep dive about the practicality of changing the structure of our national healthcare.

Recommended Resources:

  • Hurricane Michael Death Toll
  • Missing writer shows Saudi Arabia’s dark side
  • Khashoggi mystery exposes rift between U.S. allies Turkey, Saudi Arabia
  • Donald Trump Lands in Saudi Arabia on First Overseas Visit of Presidency
  • Trump reluctant to cut off arms sales to Saudis in response to Khashoggi's disappearance
  • Donald Trump's USA Today op-ed
  • Fact-checking President Trump’s USA Today op-ed on ‘Medicare-for-All’

If you're new to Pantsuit Politics, we recommend checking out these past episodes to get a taste of who we are and what we do:

  • Kavanaugh Weariness, Tax Fraud, and Georgia Politics (October 2018)
  • Our 9/11 series (Parts One, Two, Three, Four, and our Memorial special)
  • The WHCA Dinner, a #MeToo Moment, and Faith and Politics with Jen Hatmaker (May 2018)
  • Feminism and the Pro-Life Movement with Claire Swinarski (March 2018)

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Brett Kavanaugh is now a justice on the Supreme Court, and international scientists have issued a landmark report on climate change. We talk about the weekend news before sharing our conversation with another exciting female candidate, Lindsay James. She decided to run for Iowa's legislature after President Trump was elected. In our Outside of Politics segment, we talk about movies we've seen recently.

Recommended Resources:

  • The IPCC Report
  • Global Warming Warnings
  • What You Can Do About Climate Change
  • 500 Women Scientists

Lindsay James:

  • Lindsay James Website
  • Facebook
  • Twitter
  • Instagram
  • LinkedIn

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Just when we think we've exhausted our emotions over the Kavanaugh nomination...another day, another news cycle. We talk through some of the reasons this process is hitting so close to home for us. We also discuss the deeply important The New York Times story about the Trump family and tax fraud. Then, we share our conversation with Sarah Riggs Amico, who is running to become Georgia's Lt. Governor. We hope you will be as excited by her balance, nuance, and passion for policy as we were.

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A tsunami has killed more than 800 people in Indonesia. The Violence Against Women Act is set to expire, and the FBI is investigating the allegations against Brett Kavanaugh. We discuss all of those things and also share our wonderful conversation with Abigail Spanberger, a former CIA operative who is now running to represent the Virginia 7th in Congress.

Recommended Resources:

  • Indonesian Tsunami
  • Violence Against Women Act Explained
  • Violence Against Women Act Expiration
  • March for Black Women

The Kavanaugh Nomination Continues:

  • Jeff Flake Explains Himself
  • FBI Investigation Into Brett Kavanaugh
  • Lindsey Graham Wants to Investigate Democrats
  • The Hearings Were Never About Truth

Abigail Spanberger:

  • Abigail Spanberger for Congress
  • Democratic House candidate Abigail Spanberger suffers the kind of election year smear John McCain would recognize
  • This Democrat Is Running as the Tough Guy

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The entire nation watched as Dr. Christine Blasey Ford and Brett Kavanaugh testified before the Senate Judiciary Committee. We followed the hearings all day on Thursday and are sharing our reactions. On a more hopeful note, we're also sharing our interview with Missouri State Representative Crystal Quade.

Crystal Quade:

  • Crystal Quade Website
  • Springfield Democrat works across the aisle to ensure filing of 'cliff effect' bill
  • 'Cliff effect' testimony gets emotional as Springfield mothers share stories of poverty
  • Crystal's Beliefs

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Another woman has come forward with accusations of sexual misconduct by Supreme Court nominee Brett Kavanaugh. We spend our main segment talking about the ongoing drama surrounding his nomination and the varied emotional reactions to the ever-changing news. We also discuss various stories of diplomacy (or lack thereof) around the world.

Foreign...

  • President Trump at the United Nations
  • Jeremy Corbyn and Brexit
  • Theresa May and Brexit
  • Ethiopia-Eritrea border reopens after 20 years

...And Domestic

  • Diverting Funds to Migrant Children in Custody
  • South Carolina Record Flooding from Florence
  • Hog Lagoons in North Carolina
  • Hurricane Florence Damage is Still Growing
  • The Coders of Kentucky

The Kavanaugh Saga Continues...

  • Another Accusation in The New Yorker
  • Revisionist History Memory Episodes

Additional Resources

  • On Being with Krista Tippett

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Brett Kavanaugh's confirmation continues to be a source of conflict across the country. We are angry, discouraged, and frustrated by the narrative surrounding this story. Thankfully, this episode is balanced out by Beth's uplifting conversation with Jessica Morse, who is running for Congress in California's 4th District.

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An account of sexual misconduct set off a firestorm around Brett Kavanaugh's nomination to the Supreme Court this weekend. We discuss what this means for his possible confirmation along with some other big stories from the weekend. We also share our conversation with Elise Larsen about the urgency of climate change.

Recommended Resources:

  • Christine Blasey Ford Speaks Out on Kavanaugh
  • Megan Garber - The Phantom Reckoning
  • Home Birth and Birth Certificates
  • What "Problem" Kids Are Trying to Teach Us

Gratitude Moment:

  • Jocelyn Bell Brunell Wins Breakthrough Prize in Fundamental Physics
  • Secretary of State Mike Pompeo Strengthens Diplomat Ranks

Climate Change Resources from Elise Larsen:

  • CoolClimate Calculator
  • Carbon Calculator
  • Six Americas Super Short Survey (SASSY)
  • At water-starved Lake Mead and Lake Powell, 'the crisis is already real,' scientists say
  • Carbon Footprint Of Best Conserving Americans Is Still Double Global Average
  • Department of Defense Climate Change Adaptation Roadmap
  • Database of Solutions
  • From hope to action in an age of climate change

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Hurricane Florence is expected to wreak havoc on the Carolinas, Congress is racing to fund the government, and one of our favorite TV writers and producers has revealed that Les Moonves harassed her. We talk about how Designing Women impacted us and how rare strong female characters have been in the history of television. 

Then, we talk to Professor Michele Gelfand about her research regarding tight and loose cultures and how they affect our politics and our world. 

Recommended Resources:

  • Linda Bloodworth Thomason article
  • Michele Gelfand website
  • Tightness–looseness across the 50 united states

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Today is the 17th anniversary of the attacks on September 11th. We visited the memorial and museum in New York City this weekend and were so impacted by the choices that have been made regarding that space. We share audio from our visit and all of our thoughts, as well as a quick lightning round about this week's news.

The Life of Kathy Mazza

The Oculus

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A Supreme Court nominee, a new Bob Woodward book, and an anonymous editorial in the New York Times. The chaos presidency continues.

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The invasion and occupation of Iraq quickly unraveled the unity Americans found after 9/11. We discuss what happened and what we can learn from it.

Recommended Resources:

  • Education Isn't the Key to a Good Income
  • George W. Bush Speech, September 20, 2001

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With every primary election we're learning that women voters are engaged and unhappy with our political status quo and the candidates who support it. We discuss yet another crisis at our southern border, more staffing changes in the Trump administration, and the female candidates who want to change it all, including Congressional candidate from Colorado, Dr. Stephany Rose Spaulding.

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Rachel Held Evans writes about faith, doubt, and life in the Bible belt. Today, we talk with her about politics, faith, and what her understanding of Scripture can teach us about resistance and community. Beth also shares her poignant eulogy for Senator John McCain.

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It's been quite a week in political news. We break down what's going on with Paul Manafort and Michael Cohen as well as what it all may or may not mean for President Trump. 

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Amy McGrath's run for Congress has received national attention because her life story is amazing. We share our great conversation with her about her campaign, her military service, and her views on important American issues. We also talk about crises taking place around the world.

Global News:

  • Economic Crisis in Venezuela
  • U.S. Embassy Shooting in Turkey
  • Ebola Death Toll Rises in DRC
  • Are You Unintentionally Buying Conflict Minerals?
  • Conflict in the Congo Has to End to Stop Ebola
  • Flooding in India
  • School Bus Bombing in Yemen
  • Afghan President Announces Ceasefire Proposition

Amy McGrath:

  • Amy McGrath for Congress
  • Amy on Social: LinkedIn, Twitter, and Facebook
  • A Battle of Ideology vs. Résumé
  • Andy Barr Compares Political Service to Military Service

Recommended Resources:

  • Joe Biden's "As You Are" Initiative
  • NBC's Making It
  • Buy Tickets to Pantsuit Politics Live in Gettysburg

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More painful information about abuse in the Catholic Church has come to light this week. We discuss the heartbreaking crimes that were perpetrated by those in positions of religious power. This leads right in to Sarah's conversation with Erin Wathen, author of Resist and Persist, about the intersections of faith and feminism.

Recommended Resources:

  • Catholic Church Abuse in Pennsylvania
  • Resist and Persist by Erin Wathen

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One of the hardest questions to grapple with about 9/11 also sounds like the simplest: How'd we miss this? We discuss the history of the FBI and the CIA and their circumstances leading up to September 11. We also do a lightning round and cover Omarosa, the Unite the Right rally, Trump's latest tweets, and the pilot who stole and crashed a plane in Seattle. We end the episode with a discussion of Hannah Gadsby and tension in comedy.

Recommended Resources:

  • Afghan Forces Killed on Four Fronts
  • Seattle Stolen Plane
  • Hawaiian Democratic Candidates

9/11 Resources:

  • Information Could Have Stopped 9/11
  • FBI History
  • Rich Blee Interview
  • The Higher Ups Wouldn't Listen
  • How the FBI Reinvented Itself After 9/11
  • No Evidence that CIA Sought to Recruit Hijackers
  • The Agent

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We share our reflections on each other's episodes with the guest hosts. We also talk about our takeaways from Tuesday night's elections. 

Recommended Resources:

  • Drug Offenders and Mass Incarceration
  • Newseum Event on Women in Office

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It's impossible to understand 9/11 and the US response to it without knowing how and why al-Qaeda formed. For Part Two of our 9/11 series, we do a deep dive into recent Middle Eastern history and what led to the creation and successes of al-Qaeda and Osama bin Laden. We also talk about recent media conflicts, concerns around campaign finance, and share our weekly gratitude moments.

Media Conflicts:

  • Sarah Jeong and The New York Times Racism Row
  • The New York Times Stands By Sarah Jeong
  • Trump Attacks the Media...Again
  • Trump Will Have Blood on His Hands

Crossroads and Campaign Finance:

  • CREW vs. FEC and Crossroads
  • Ruling Allows Dark Money

Recommended Resources:

  • Gratitude Moment: Jenny Hill
  • Hill Wins School Board Seat

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Beth covers a few current events on her own while Sarah is still on vacation. She shares some thoughts on shifting political parties and how the Trump administration has caused her to double down on conservatism. Then, we share an interview with Libby Jamison and Lauren Weiner about the Military Spouse JD Network and Homefront Rising, a non-partisan initiative that encourages and trains military spouses to speak up and get involved in the political process through advocacy and public service.

Recommended Resources:

  • All Things Ill Considered
  • Homefront Rising

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Nine million Americans have some kind of active interface with incarceration. If incarceration were a city, it would be the largest city in the US. Guest host Sarah Shotland and Beth discuss this issue in depth and how you can make a difference. They also talk Paul Manafort's trial, Nia Wilson's death, and the ongoing crisis of family separation at our southern border.

Paul Manafort's Trial:

  • The Charges and the Stakes
  • Manafort's Lavish Lifestyle
  • Implications for the Russia Probe

Nia Wilson's Death:

  • The Anxiety of Being a Black Woman
  • Searching for Motive

Family Separation:

  • Hundreds Not Reunited by Deadline
  • Volunteers Step Up to Help
  • A Migrant Child's Days in Detention
  • Family Separation Does Not Deter Illegal Immigration
  • Jobs, Opportunity, and Central America

Mass Incarceration:

  • Private Immigrant Jails Boom
  • The Tragedy of County Jails

Bonus Resources:

  • Beth's Gratitude Moment: Food Research and Action Center research
  • The Pantsuit Politics Midterm Elections Resource

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Mental health - specifically adolescent mental health - is an issue everyone likes to talk about but Will Powers is actually doing something about. We talk to him about the organization he represents, StAMINA, which works to end the stigma around youth mental health in Kentucky. 

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Sarah welcomes guest host Jo Kroger to talk about the state of the progressive left and how it's impacted the Democratic party at large. Sarah also hosts a group of Pantsuit Politics listeners with real life campaign experience. They talk about their levels of involvement in a variety of campaigns and what led them to get involved in the first place.

The Campaign Round Table Participants:

  • Maddie Isch for Margaret O'Brien
  • Abby Korb for Tammy Baldwin
  • Carisa Weaver for Robin Kniech
  • Maggie Penton for Misty Belford

Recommended Resources:

  • This American Life on the Democratic Party
  • Democratic Party Midterms
  • Medicare for All
  • Swing Voters Exist
  • Single Payer
  • Our Revolution

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The odd grammatical clarifications President Trump and the White House keep offering are dominating headlines, but the policy and actions behind them are far more concerning. We return to our conversation about confronting strangers after so much great listener feedback. We also talk to Carri Hicks, who is running for State Senate in Oklahoma.

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More from Carri Hicks:

  • Why we need education funding: Last year Oklahoma approved over 2,000 emergency certifications to fill teaching jobs. This has been done in an attempt to keep schools open as we are in dire need of teachers. However, it gives the false impression that everything is fine in education because school is in session. Clearly there is a large problem when 50,000 children were educated by someone other than a certified teacher last year. The number is expected to rise again this year.
  • Why she decided now was the time to run: After the defeat of the penny cent sales tax, I took many personal days to advocate on behalf of my students at the capital. I met with Senator Mark Allen who is on the education committee (and will be on the ballot in Nov.). As I introduced myself and explained how many students I had in my classes at the time, 28, he called me a liar. He further went on to explain that they knew the average class size in Oklahoma is 16, so that I was clearly not being truthful. I have taught for 7 years and have never had less than 23 students. This interaction led me to believe not only were lawmakers misinformed about the needs in public schools, but were unwilling to hear what they were. Since these are the decision makers affecting my profession and millions of innocent children, I knew now was the time to give teachers, and education a loud voice inside our state government.

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Our plans for today's episode were upended by Donald Trump's extraordinary statements in Helsinki. We share our thoughts on Trump's foreign policy across Europe, the Peter Strzok hearing, the new indictments from the Mueller team, and the shocking Trump-Putin press conference in Helsinki.

Recommended Resources:

  • Trump in London
  • Trump and Putin in Helsinki
  • Peter Strzok Hearing
  • More Indictments from the Justice Department
  • Migrant Children Reunification Efforts

Gratitude Moment: John Huntsman, U.S. Ambassador to Russia

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We're tackling the new Supreme Court nominee, NATO, and Sarah has some things to say to white people with cell phones. This leads us into a conversation about when and how to call out strangers for words and actions we find objectionable. Plus, Beth talks with Emily Fox about her new book about the Trump children, Born Trump.

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2,977 people were killed by 19 al Qaeda-backed terrorists on September 11, 2001. Today, as immigration and travel bans dominate the news, we begin a several month exploration of what that day has meant for American government, agencies, policies and culture.

We start the show lightning round to cover the this week's headlines. We're also sharing our first gratitude moment, a new regular segment in our Tuesday episodes.

Recommended Resources:

  • World Health Assembly, America, and Breastfeeding
  • Why Symbols Became Targets

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Justice Anthony Kennedy announced his retirement from the Supreme Court this week. We discuss what it may mean for the future of the Court. We also talk about the varied reactions to Justice Kennedy's announcement and how they relate to our discussion of political civility. 

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Social media has been dominated by the serious stories of immigration atrocities and less serious stories about jackets and restaurants. We cover these stories in our lightning round before talking about the need for civility in our political discourse. Plus, we chat with Tiffany Bond about her run to represent the citizens of Maine in Congress.

Recommended Resources:

  • Obliterating Culture
  • Where Is Barack Obama?
  • Trump Supporters Dig In
  • Zero-Tolerance Prosecution and Family Reunification
  • Trump Decries Immigrant Invasion
  • There’s a Better, Cheaper Way to Handle Immigration
  • A Short, Brutal History of ICE
  • Russia and the Midterm Elections

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All week, we've heard from listeners who, like us, are struggling to process what's happening at our southern border. We talk through the various elements of this crisis as well as our thoughts and feelings surrounding it. Additionally, we discuss how and why we talk politics with our kids.

Recommended Resources:

  • VA Governor Orders Investigation Into Potential Child Abuse
  • President Obama and Family Detention
  • The Profit of Private Immigrant Jails

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It's being reported that 2000 children have been separated from their families at the US border between April 19 and May 31. We discuss our perspectives on this horrifying policy as well as reflect on how we view immigration to the United States. We also discuss the recent Supreme Court decision on gerrymandering, immigration issues in the European Union, and our weekly Pride Month moment.

Recommended Resources:

  • Angela Merkel and Immigration in the E.U.
  • Jose Garcia, Legal Resident, Arrested
  • Pablo Villavicencio Arrested While Delivering Pizza
  • Vietnamese Man Dies in ICE Custody

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We address the separation of families at the border, share our reflections on the summit with North Korea, and Beth talks with James Kirchick, author of The End of Europe. Beth and James discuss historical context for our modern diplomacy with European countries, including Russia. 

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The President faces backlash from the G7 heading into talks with North Korea, and Robert Mueller's work. We take a closer look at the new indictments and what they mean for the continuing case. We also talk with Diana Butler Bass about the need for civic gratitude.

Recommended Resources:

  • The G7 Summit Communique
  • The North Korea Summit
  • Mueller's Latest Charges
  • The Special Counsel's Office
  • Background on the Hapsburg Group

Pride Month Moment: Bayard Rustin

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There's so much tension in the news this week. International leaders are unhappy with the United States over tariffs, leading to concerns about the ability of the G7 to issue a joint statement. American diplomats in China are being brought home after experiencing neurological symptoms caused by sustained and mysterious sounds. And House GOP leaders are trying to quell and immigration revolt among their members. We discuss all of this, the idea of negative capability, and listener feedback on language as privilege.

Recommended Resources:

Mysterious Neurological Conditions in American Foreign Service Workers

G7 Chair Notes

Has the Western World Started Shunning America?

House Immigration Meeting

Revolts from the GOP Wings

Farai Chideya Twitter Thread

Oprah’s SuperSoul Conversations - Jack Kornfield: Buddhism 101

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We've discovered that it's hard to talk about what you think is important without talking about what everyone is talking about, so we set a timer to tick through the public frenzy stories of the week: the pardon memo, Roseanne and Samantha Bee, and the Bill Clinton interview. Then, we get down to business, talking about contemplated cuts to U.S. Special Forces in Africa and the Niger report, the impact of trade tariffs on America's alliances in the world, and news that Facebook had partnerships with 60 device makers involve data-sharing.

Sarah shares a quick update on the Supreme Court's decision in the Masterpiece Cakeshop case.

To celebrate Pride Month, we're highlighting the accomplishments of LGBTQ leaders every Tuesday. Today, we feature Annise Parker, former mayor of Houston and President and CEO of the Victory Fund.

For our main segment, we discuss Matthew Stewart's "The Birth of the New American Aristocracy," income equality, insecurity, and living in relationship with each other.

Outside of politics, Beth is thinking about music and Sarah about summer family fun.

Recommended Resources:

Contemplated Special Forces Cuts in Africa

Lessons from the Niger Report

Justin Trudeau Interview

Macron and Trump Call

Facebook and Data Sharing

The Victory Fund

Annise Parker on Family

Annise Parker Family (video)

The Birth of the New American Aristocracy

Richard Rohr on The Third Way

A Book That Takes Its Time

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We talk about the social media outrage machine in the wake of stories that families are being separated at the border, ICE has abused its power, and the Office of Refugee Resettlement has been unable to verify the status of children placed with sponsor families. In the #wherearethechildren outrage, we are missing key policy and enforcement issues that could help improve outcomes for immigrant families and Americans in the long run.

We also discuss the devastating aftermath of Hurricane Maria in Puerto Rico and the historic failure of our government to mitigate the storm's impact.

Finally, we talk about proposed changes to the Volcker Rule, a financial regulation that was implemented as part of the Dodd-Frank efforts to prevent another economic collapse because of speculative investments by banks.

Recommended Resources

Why Families Are Being Separated at the Border

Fact-Checking Major Immigration Stories

Why Immigration from Central America is Increasing

The Importance of American Trade Policy to Immigration (from ForeignPolicy.com)

American Policies are Going in the Wrong Direction on Central America

Together Rising

How You Can Give Your Time and Care to Help Immigrant Children (our Twitter thread with link)

The Actual Death Toll from Hurricane Maria

Hurricane Maria's Aftermath is a Devastating National Failure

The Volcker Rule Changes Aren't a Total Win for Wall Street

The Contemplated Volcker Rule Changes

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We took a trip back to Transylvania University, our alma mater, for a live podcast recording. We discussed all sorts of women in political leadership, including some of our favorite fictional portrayals, with Dr. Emily Goodman, Assistant Professor of Art History. 

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From North Korea to primary elections to Steve Almond, our inboxes have been full this week. We talk about this week's news as well as share some of the great listener feedback we've gotten recently. 

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Recommended Resources: 

  • The Myth of Conservative Feminism
  • Boston and the Holland City Council

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Another school shooting. Another twitter rant. We talk current events and also have a conversation with author Steve Almond about his new book, Bad Stories, a literary investigation of what is happening in America.

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Recommended Resources:

  • Santa Fe Shooting
  • Steve Mnuchin and Trade with China
  • Trump and Trade with China

The Mueller Investigation:

  • Trump Demands Inquiry
  • Trump Jr.'s Campaign Meeting
  • Donald Trump Has All the Power

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Reports confirm Russia interfered in our election and that the President lied to the American people. Plus, North Korea throws cold water on the upcoming summit and the President of the United States described our fellow human beings as animals.

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Recommended Resources:

  • Missing Files and Michael Cohen
  • Trump vs. the Deep State
  • Richard Burr and the Senate Intelligence Committee

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The United States has opened its embassy in Jerusalem, and national issues keep surfacing in local races. We also discuss race, education, and policy with Dr. Wendy Osefo.

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Israel:

  • The Jerusalem Embassy
  • Prime Minister Netanyahu and Corruption

Other Resources:

  • Compliment the Other Side: Dianne Feinstein
  • Wendy Osefo
  • The 1954 Equity Project

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The Iran Nuclear deal, North Korean detainees, and Russian oligarchs. We discuss lots of foreign policy, lots of lawyers, and lots of books.

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Recommended Resources:

  • Trump's Shadowy Money Trail
  • Michael Cohen's Shell Company
  • Israel and Iran's Proxy War in Syria

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In Part 2, Beth discusses the creation and activities of the Iranian Revolutionary Guard Corps, concerns about Iran's nuclear program during the Bush years, and the negotiation of the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action. 

Recommended Resources: 

Sunni and Shi'a Terrorism:Differences that Matter 

JCPOA Fact Sheet


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To understand the Trump Administration's decision to exit the "Iran deal," a little history lesson in order. Beth discusses Iran's history through the Reagan years in Part 1. In Part 2, she talks about growing concerns over Iran's nuclear program during the Bush years through President Trump's decision to exit the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Agreement. 


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We often ask ourselves "what kind of country do we want to live in?" Today, we ask that question in several contexts: national leadership, foreign policy, and the dairy industry.

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Recommended Resources:

  • North Korea and President Trump
  • Tunisian Election
  • Compliment the Other Side: Senator Tokuda

The Dairy Industry:

  • Pricing Concepts for Dairy Farmers
  • You can find Carilynn Coombs online as The Modern Milkmaid at her blog, Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook.

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We've been thinking about the President, and we've got some things to say. So do women across the country. Spaceship Media's bipartisan Facebook project, The Many, is allowing them to do that. We also discuss what nuance means to us and a few of the headlines of the week.

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Recommended Resources:

  • Beth's Original Blog on Nuance
  • Marianne Williamson on Oprah's SuperSoul Conversations
  • Join The Many

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Jen Hatmaker is an evangelical leader who has made headlines for going public with her politics. We talk with her about how her Christian faith informs her political beliefs and about the modern marriage of evangelicalism and conservatism. We also discuss this week's news, including Michelle Wolf's performance at the White House Correspondents' Dinner. Plus, we chat about Avengers: Infinity War and its potential political symbolism.

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The WHCA Dinner:

  • Watch Michelle Wolf's Full Performance
  • WHCA President Condemns Wolf's Remarks

Recommended Resources:

  • Charlie Rose's Comeback
  • The Justice Department and Press Freedom

Compliment the Other Side:

  • Beth: Ben Cardin
  • Sarah: Trey Gowdy

Jen Hatmaker:

You can find Jen at her website, on Facebook, Twitter, and Instagram, or on her podcast, For the Love.

  • Jen's Facebook Post Affirming LGBT Christians
  • Jen's Blog Post: My Saddest Good Friday
  • The Politics of Jen Hatmaker

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The Virginia House of Delegates seated a record number of women in January, and those women aren't messing around. We attended The Blue Victory Dinner in Arlington, Virginia and spoke to some of them about their successful campaigns and the importance of women in political leadership.

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The Delegates:

Jennifer Carroll Foy, 2nd district: A public defender, Jennifer is a graduate of the third class of female cadets to ever attend the Virginia Military Institute. She has a masters from VSU, a JD from the Thomas Jefferson School of Law, and twin boys, to whom she gave birth while on the campaign trail.

Wendy Gooditis, 10th district: An educator and local business operator, Wendy co-founded the Clarke County chapter of Indivisible following the November 2016 election. Her successful 2017 run was her first electoral campaign, which focused on education, jobs, health and the environment.

Danica Roem, 13th District: An award-winning journalist and Manassas native, Danica is the first transgender politician to be elected to Virginia's General Assembly. She out-raised her Republican opponent--a 25-year incumbent --by 5 to 1 with a campaign focused on economic and transportation issues.

Elizabeth Guzman, 31st district: A Peruvian-American public administrator and social worker, Elizabeth came to the United States as a single mom looking for a better future for her eldest child. She delivered the Spanish response to the 2018 State of the Union address at the invitation of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi.

Kathy Tran, 42nd district: Kathy is the first Vietnamese-American to be elected to the General Assembly and a former federal government employee. She came to the United States as a refugee and has spent her career advocating for workers, working families, and immigrants.

Hala Ayala, 51st district: A public servant and cyber security expert, Hala is one of the first Latinas to be elected to the General Assembly. A former vice president of the National Organization of Women (Virginia chapter), Hala has also served on former Governor McAuliffe's Council of Women and is an advocate for women and families.

Karrie Delaney, 67th district: A long-time local civic leader, counselor for sexual assault survivors, and advocate against human trafficking, Karrie beat a four-term Republican incumbent with a campaign focused on economic growth & innovation, education and health care.

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The Democratic National Committee has filed a lawsuit against the Trump Campaign, and speculation about Michael Cohen is reaching a fever pitch. We also discuss the Waffle House shooting and share our interview with the gracious Mark McKinnon of Showtime's The Circus.

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Recommended Resources:

  • Waffle House Shooting
  • Michael Cohen's Flips?
  • Unpacking the DNC Lawsuit
  • Compliment the Other Side: Pompeo Nomination

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Barbara Bush passed away this week and Trump administration officials are making headlines. We discuss this week's news and the importance of student civic engagement in a live recording from Walsingham Academy in Williamsburg, Virginia.

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Thanks also to Walsingham Academy who graciously hosted us in their classes and for the recording of this podcast. Walsingham Academy is the only Coed Pre-K through 12th grade Mercy School in the nation for students and families who seek a holistic approach to learning, grounded in the Mercy Core Values. If you want to learn more about Walsingham Academy you can visit Walsingham.org. An enhanced education and community engagement is only possible through the generosity of our donors. Please consider making your gift today at Walsingham.org or contact the Office of Advancement.

Recommended Resources:

  • Barbara Bush
  • Mike Pompeo and the Trade Dispute
  • Nikki Haley's Rebuke of the White House

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The weekend brought a military strike in Syria, breaking news about Michael Cohen, and a bombshell interview with James Comey. We also talk with David Singleton, the Executive Director of the Ohio Justice and Policy Center after its work on criminal justice reform in Ohio.

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Syria:

Debates Ensure After Missiles Hit

Obama's Red Line Led Here

What Was Hit in Syria?

Michael Cohen:

Michael Cohen and the End Stage of the Trump Presidency

Mueller Confirms Part of Dossier

Cohen's Lawyers Set Court Appearance

Government Opposes Cohen's Restraining Order Motion

Compliment the Other Side:

Sarah - Thom Tillis

Beth - Tim Kaine

Ohio Justice and Policy Center

Tyra Patterson's Case

Outside of Politics:

Beth's Leadership Class

Beth's Group Coaching

The Story Behind Molly's Game


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A description of this week's headlines would sound a little like "We Didn't Start the Fire" lyrics. We tackle some of the many news stories of the week including the FBI raid of Michael Cohen's office, Mark Zuckerberg's testimony before Congress, and Paul Ryan's resignation announcement. Plus, we share the second half of Beth's conversation about military policy with Air Force Major Jason Baker.

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Recommended Resources:

Donald Trump Relied on Michael Cohen

Mark Zuckerberg Hearing Highlights

Good Riddance, Paul Ryan

How Donald Trump Upended Paul Ryan's Plans


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On Saturday, an apparent chemical weapons attack killed 25 people and injured more than 500 in Syria. Major Jason Baker adds his experienced voice to the conversation. Plus, Beth shares an update on the Mueller investigation.

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Veterans Affairs and Ronny Jackson

Mueller Investigation:

Government's Response in Opposition to Motion to Dismiss

Paul Manafort's Lawsuit

Manafort's Motion to Suppress Evidence

Manafort's Trial

Alex van der Zwaan's Sentence

Van der Zwann's Sentencing

It's Mueller Time

Mueller Rattles the Oligarchs

Trump Named as Subject of Investigation

Compliment the Other Side:

Sarah - Trey Gowdy Interview

Beth - Connecticut Democrats and Elizabeth Etsy's Resignation

Etsy Resigns

Jason Baker Interview:

Syria, Chemical Weapons, and Trump

McCain, Trump, and Syria

Recruitment of Violent Extremists

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It’s beginning to look a lot like trade wars? We continue our discussion of ongoing trade issues with China as well as some of the negative patterns within the current administration. 

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China Strikes Back

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March for Our Lives and the Parkland survivors continue to dominate public debate. We also cover the Kentucky pension crisis, our trade tiff with China, and the responsibilities that come with a public platform.

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Kentucky Pension:

Teachers Rally in Frankfort

Kentucky Schools Shut

China and Trade

China Tariffs on U.S. Products

Tariffs and Intellectual Property

Trump Country and China Tariffs

Alton Sterling & Stephon Clark

The Stephon Clark Tragedy

Sacramento Police Cruiser Hits Woman

Alton Sterling Police Videos (content warning)

Compliment the Other Side:

Sarah - Chris Christie and Scott Pruitt

Beth - Mark Warner and the Russia Investigation

March for Our Lives:

Gun Control and Children

Dr. Dana Fisher

American Resistance

Outside of Politics

Sarah - Wild Wild Country

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John Bolton is the new National Security Advisor, and the census is bizarrely in the headlines. Plus, we share some of the live recording from our day at Ripon College in Wisconsin.  Thanks to our sponsors: Acer and EverlyWellRipon College Keynote Address To support the show and get access to bonus content including our newest bonus episode about Waco and Roseanne, visit the Pantsuit Politics Patreon page. 


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Should we all just delete Facebook? We talk about the political ramifications of social media along with a host of current events.

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Stormy Daniels:

The 60 Minutes Interview

Stormy Daniels, Donald Trump, and Harvey Weinstein

What We Learned From Stormy Daniels

MarchforOurLives:

The Story Behind Naomi Wadler's Speech

How the Parkland Students Planned the March in 5 Weeks

The Omnibus Budget:

What's Included in the Omnibus

Trump Signs the Bill

What's in the Bill Nobody's Read

Women's History Month Moment:

Barbara Jordan Obituary

Facebook & Cambridge Analytica:

Election Consultants, Bribes, and Sex Workers

The Only Privacy Policy That Matters

Silicon Valley Has Failed to Protect Our Data

It's Time to Regulate the Internet

Our Lives Inside the Surveillance Machine

A Hurricane Flattens Facebook


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We discuss the latest news and listener feedback and Beth talks to Emily Ellsworth about her recently announced campaign for Utah Senate District 15. 

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Anna Palmer of Politico’s playbook helps us process the state of DC going into another spending fight. We also discuss how identifying ourselves in groups keeps us from seeing the humanity of others.

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Women's History Month Moment:

The Brutal History of Japan's "Comfort Women"

South Korea, Comfort Women, and Trump

Lee Yong-soo's Mission

Recommended Resources:

Politico Playbook

Andrew McCabe's Firing

Brené Brown on Pod Save the People

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Everybody has thoughts about our discussion on abortion. We cover some of that feedback as well as some of the notable news of the week.

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Recommended Resources:

Pennsylvania Special Election

Rex Tillerson, Trump, and Congress

School Walkouts and Student Activism

Syrian War and Refugees

Iran and the BBC

Theresa May and Russia


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President Trump has agreed to meet with Kim Jong-un, but is less open to talking to Bob Mueller.

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North Korea:

A Trump-Kim Summit

Trump Gambles on North Korea

Kim Jong-un and Loyalty

The Education of Kim Jong-un

The Mueller Investigation:

Trump Lawyers Seek Deal

Media Leaks Shape Russia Narrative

Sam Nunberg Testifies Before Grand Jury

Feminism and the Pro-Life Movement:

Why I'm a Pro-Life Feminist

The Catholic Feminist podcast

Other Recommended Resources:

Cohen Used Trump Org. Email for Stormy Daniels Payoff

Oprah, Weight Watchers, and Teenagers

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Shannon Watts started Moms Demand Action as a Facebook page at her kitchen table. Five years later, it is the driving force in the gun violence prevention movement. 

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The President’s announcement on steel tariffs renews the conversation about America’s place in the world.

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Recommended Resources:

Donald Trump's Public and Private Presidency

Fabric Guru

Women's History Month Spotlight: Jeanette Rankin

Congresswoman Rankin Biography

Has Anything Changed for Female Politicians?

The Congresswoman Who Paved the Way for Hillary Clinton

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Hope Hicks is out, Jared Kushner is downgraded, and Trump changes his tune on guns. We talk about an active week in Washington and take listener questions on Eric Greitens and Tom Nichols' thread on conservatism. Thanks to our sponsors for this episode, Scout & Cellar and LOLA. Recommended Resources: Hope Hicks as the Most Powerful Person in Washington Hope Hicks's Testimony to the House Intelligence Committee Hope Hicks's Departure from the White House Jared Kushner's Security Clearance Downgrade History of Conflicts Between Trump and Sessions Full Video of Trump's Gun Violence Meeting Reporting from St. Louis on the Eric Greitens IndictmentTom Nichols's Thread on Conservativism


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Critical discussions in this country continue to develop about election interference, #metoo, and gun violence.

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Beth summarizes her thoughts on the Democrats on the House Intelligence Committee response to the Republican memo on the Russian investigation as well as her new found commitment to primary sources. She also shared her thoughts on the recent indictments and movement of Robert Mueller and his team. We also talk about Mona Charen's #metoo moment at CPAC.

Beth compliments the Democratic governors. Sarah compliments Florida Governor Rick Scott.

In our main segment, we discuss the great feedback we've got from our community on the ongoing gun debate.

We end with what's on our minds outside politics. Beth is thinking about her crafting and we talk about the essential nature of idle time.


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The conversation on guns in this country is changing. We talk about a particularly intense day this week filled with listening sessions, marches, and town halls. 

We then spoke with Jeremy Hays and Eve Pearlman, cofounders of Spaceship Media, about dialogue journalism and their new project The Many. 

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Students across the U.S. are demanding action to prevent future gun violence, and Robert Mueller has issued an extensive indictment related to Russian interference in the 2016 election. We discuss the week’s news and talk with Tabitha Isner about her run for Congress.

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Students from Marjory Stoneman Douglas High School are leading a nationwide movement, demanding that policymakers address gun violence in schools. We discuss their activism and the need for reasonable progress and compromise.

Special Counsel Robert Mueller, in a 37-page indictment, has described Russian interference in the 2016 presidential election. We discuss the indictment and updates regarding Michael Flynn, Rick Gates, and Richard Pinedo.

Sarah compliments Congressman Carlos Curbelo for his remarks following the Parkland shooting. Beth compliments the Albuquerque, New Mexico City Council.

We talk with Tabitha Isner and her campaign manager, Megan Skipper, about her run for Congress as a Democrat in Alabama. You can find Tabitha on her website, Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook.

We end with what's on our minds outside politics. Beth is thinking about her bucket list. Sarah is excited about her friend's new children's album.


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On January 23, there was a school shooting in our home state. On February 14, 17 people were killed in yet another.

If you are ready to take action, consider doing one of the following things:

  • text ACT to 64433 to join Moms Demand Action
  • host a conversation in your community about the threat of violence (agree in advance about whether you'd like to discuss gun control provisions or not)
  • contact your elected official to express your insistence on measures to combat gun violence

Post-note:

At the top of the episode, we cite the statistic from EveryTown that there have been 18 school shootings in 2018. This statistic has been criticized today by, among others, the Washington Post. EveryTown uses an expansive definition of school shooting to encompass every time a gun has discharged live rounds on school property. We encourage you to judge the meaning and importance of this statistic for yourself.


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It’s hard to keep up with the memos, interviews, and leaks coming out of Washington DC so we take a painstaking look at what we do and don’t know about the memo and the Mueller investigation Thanks to our sponsor: Martha Stewart Wine and TomboyX Underwear We discuss the resignation of Rob Porter and the President's wholly unacceptable response to the accusations of domestic violence against Porter. We also talk about the Olympics: North Korea's participation, the ugly part of the event, and why we keep watching. To compliment individuals who aren't members of our respective parties, Beth compliments the Democratic candidate in her home district, Patti Piatt. Sarah compliments Rand Paul on his continued stance against deficit spending. For our main segment, business journalist Heidi Moore joins us for a discussion of the stock market, the economy, and why debt colors Donald Trump's opinion of it all. We end with a discussion on what's on our minds outside politics. Beth loved Lady Bird and Victoria & Abdul. Sarah loved The Power and Sing, Unburied, Sing. Heidi shares her love for The Good Place and Call Me By Your Name.


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The United States continues to grapple with cultural tension over race, the military, and religion. We talk about the latest news around these topics and listener feedback in today’s episode.

The death of Black Lives Matter activist Muhiyidin d’Baha and the vandalism of a Confederate monument in Louisville, Kentucky, have us thinking about continued racial tensions in the United States. At the same, a message from our listener, Karen, and Sarah's experience passing a Fairness Ordinance in her city have us thinking about tension around Christianity. That tension is not helped by an evangelical minister who made headlines this week by claiming that Christians don't get the flu.

The President has expressed interest in a military parade. Sarah has a great solution to dealing with this.

We shared feedback from Michelle regarding #HearHerHarvard and the culture on Harvard's campus. We also discuss Melissa's message sharing her desire for a more balanced conversation -- one of many messages questioning Beth's political perspective.

Finally, we discuss SpaceX's launch of the Falcon Heavy.


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It’s hard to keep up with the memos, interviews, and leaks coming out of Washington DC so we take a painstaking look at what we do and don’t know about the memo and the Mueller investigation Thanks to our sponsor: Casper Mattress First up, we discuss how we think about the economy as we approach another government shutdown this week, including whether or not we should pour more money into the Department of Defense considering the results of the latest audit. We discuss Uma's #metoo moment and why the coverage became the story. To compliment individuals who aren't members of our respective parties, Sarah praises recently retiring and suddenly refreshingly honest Representative Trey Gowdyl. Beth compliments Senator Chris Coons on his work on a bipartisan immigration bill. For our main segment, we start with a mini-primer on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act ("FISA"), which was enacted in 1978 to protect Americans’ privacy in the midst of counter-terrorism efforts. A law enforcement training white paper helped us significantly in understanding key provisions of FISA. FISA was enacted to limit the presidents' power and to create a judicially-manageable standard for issuing warrants in national security investigations.

The key provisions of FISA were:

  1. Non-criminal electronic surveillance can only occur for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence and foreign counterintelligence
  2. Foreign powers and agents of foreign powers could be targeted for electronic surveillance (foreign powers and agents of foreign powers are defined in the statute—explicitly says “non US persons” — US persons are citizens, legal permanent residents, US corporations, unincorporated associates with a substantial number of members who are citizens or lawful permanent residents)
  3. The government needs probable cause to conduct surveillance (and set a probable cause standard)
  4. Established foreign intelligence surveillance courts (FISC) at the district and appellate levels to review applications for warrants under the act
  5. The government can only conduct electronic surveillance in the US for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence or foreign counterintelligence pursuant to a warrant issued by a FISC or in an emergency with approval from the attorney general provided that a warrant is sought within 24 hours

In 1995, FISA was expanded to include physical searches (which meant a recognition that the president’s power to order physical searches in the interest of nat security is limited) In 1998, provisions were added on pen registers and trap and trace - includes phone calls, email, and all electronic forms of communication. These provisions specifically prohibit investigation of US persons for activities protected by the 1st...


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California voters will soon decide whether to recall the judge who sentenced Brock Turner, and conspiracy theories seem to be taking over our public discussions. We’re talking about institutional trust and accountability as well as discussing the brutal realities of gun violence in today’s episode.

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We discuss the campaign to recall Judge Persky, how elections impact the judiciary, and the punitive side of rape culture.

We also talk about "The Storm" and how the Nunes memo is mainstreaming conspiracy theories.

Finally, we talk with Dr. Sterling Haring about his experience treating victims of the Marshall County High School shooting. Content warning: Our conversation with Dr. Haring includes some upsetting and graphic information about how bullets impact human bodies.


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John Adams said that “because power corrupts, society’s demands for moral authority and character increase as the importance of the position increases.” Every headline in the past week has us thinking about abuse of power and the moral authority required to stand up to that abuse. In this week's show, we discuss the growing violence in Afghanistan and the terrible attacks in Kabul. We also ponder the motivations behind President Trump's solar tariffs. In our #metoo moment, we talk about the #HearHerHarvard movement at Harvard University and the criticism of Judge Aquilina and her decisions involving the Nassar trial. We also discuss the economic motivations behind the recent Russian protests and why economics always becomes our central concern. To compliment individuals who aren't members of our respective parties, Sarah praises Representative Will Hurd and his bipartisan immigration bill. Beth shares the encouraging reactions of several Arizona state legislators in the face of ugly immigration protests. For our main segment, we discuss the moral authority and the arguments surrounding the presidencies of Bill Clinton and George W. Bush. Beth shares her journey with John McCain as a presidential candidate and we ponder the growing disgust among the moderate middle at the current state of politics in our country. We end with a discussion on what's on our minds outside politics - specifically when we sleep - as Beth shares a common dream she has and Sarah worries about the epidemic of teeth clenching among Americans.


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In 1997, three of Sarah's classmates were shot and killed in the lobby of my high school. 20 years later and 30 miles away, her community is again mourning the deaths of two 15 yo high school students shot in the in the lobby of Marshall County High School. We’re thinking about activism to prevent these tragedies and talking about activism through protests with Dr. Dana Fisher.

The Courier Journal describes the shooting at Marshall County High School in Benton, Kentucky, in excruciating detail. We discuss how we think we can break the logjam on action to do better at preventing future gun violence.

We talk with Dr. Dana Fisher about the Women's Marches and the Resistance movement in the context of sociological activism data. You can find Dr. Fisher on Twitter, at her University of Maryland website, and at the website for her eye-opening book that's being shared as she develops it.


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How does one negotiate with jello? We talk negotiations, compromise, and the government shutdown on today’s episode. We begin with our #metoo moment, discussing the sentencing hearing for Larry Nassar, the former physician for the U.S. Olympian gymnastics team. Judge Rosemarie Aquilina has admirably allowed survivors to speak during the hearing, and survivors like Aly Raisman have used their time to powerfully indict everyone who has been complicit in Nassar's abuse. Next, we talk about the talks between South Korean President Moon and Kim Jong Un regarding the Olympics. We don't know what the President's actual strategy is, but we're hoping for a productive and peaceful path forward in light of apparent cooperation around Pyeongchang. To compliment individuals who aren't members of our respective parties, Beth celebrates the achievements of Oregon governor Kate Brown. Sarah appreciates Senator Lindsay Graham's efforts on immigration. For our main segment, we discuss the government shutdown -- how and why it happened, the costs involved, what we can expect next, and how we can productively move forward. We end with a discussion of books and movies (which should you do first?) and Beth's favorite romantic comedies -- one of which was made better by learning that Jack Nicholson sent a check to his co-star Diane Keaton, who was underpaid.


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The President of the United States, through his party's website, actually gave out Fake News Awards this week. There is an epidemic of pettiness in our politics. Let's discuss.

We discuss Congress's inability to pass a budget and inability to do a "deal" that the President will sign on DACA. We also talk about the Senate Judiciary Committee hearing that devoted a sad amount of time to whether the President actually said the word "shithole."

It's difficult to know what's happening in the Mueller investigation, but we do know that Steve Bannon has agreed to be interviewed.

Finally, we discuss the State of the Commonwealth given by Governor Matt Bevin in our home, Kentucky.

We then share listener feedback and continue the conversation regarding Aziz Ansari and Grace. There are too many think pieces and opinions to link because this issue has touched such a nerve--and that's exactly why we think it's so important.


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The news this week has been explicit — both in language and in what that language reveals. We’re discussing the President’s comments on immigration and the US’s role in the world.

Our home state of Kentucky has been granted a waiver to add work requirements to Medicaid. We discuss the facts of the new program and our thoughts on what it does and doesn't accomplish.

A babe.net piece about "Grace's" date with Aziz Ansari has fueled controversy over the past three days. (Please note that the linked content is explicit). We discuss where #metoo stands and what lessons we can learn from the Ansari allegations.

To compliment the other side, Sarah compliments Representative Mia Love for her statements on President Trump's "shithole" comments. Beth compliments Senator Dick Durbin for trying to stay focused on DACA.

We discuss President Trump's widely-publicized comments and general attitude regarding immigration. We talk about what drives our immigration policies, the data on the importance of immigration in the United States, and our national values.

Outside of politics, Sarah is thinking about all of the snow in Kentucky. Beth is planning a class on boundaries.


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The Briefcase is our shorter episode each week when we catch up on news and often share listener feedback. Today, we're covering a local fairness ordinance, the Oprah 2020 frenzy, and the public DACA meeting President Trump convened.

In our first block, Sarah emotionally describes the difficulty inherent in holding public meetings to pass a fairness ordinance in the city of Paducah, KY. Paducah is Kentucky's 9th city to pass protections for LGBTQ+ individuals. In this segment, Beth mentions the work of Equality Ohio to support state-wide fairness legislation in Ohio.

We then turn to the frenzied discussion of Oprah's presidential prospects -- which we believe misses the point of her speech entirely. In this discussion, we reference Susan Faludi's piece, The Patriachs Are Falling. The Patriarchy is Stronger Than Ever, and a conversation on Twitter resulting from listener M.E. sharing an article about soft skills in the tech industry. Unfortunately, we are unable to locate any nuance for the gentleman who is suing Google for discrimination.

Finally, we break down the public negotiation President Trump convened on DACA -- we cover the good, the bad, and the ugly. We also give a brief overview of earmarks, since that seems to be on the President's mind.


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We discussed #MeToo's moment at the Golden Globes, including Oprah's (presidential?) speech. Beth is reading Fire and Fury and keeping us all updated and we talk faith and politics with Michael Wear. Thanks to our patrons; we hope you'll consider supporting Pantsuit Politics by making a monthly contribution at Patreon and by leaving a positive review in the Apple Podcast Player for Pantsuit Politics and The Nuanced Life.

Sarah live tweeted The Golden Globes and we had lots of thoughts on political statements, Oprah's speech, and Hollywood's participation in the #MeToo #TimesUp movement. Beth also wanted to share an amazing interaction between Sarah Silverman and a Twitter troll. Beth is currently reading Fire and Fury and we discuss the book, the coverage, and the biggest problem for the White House. Sarah compliments Indiana State Representative Matt Lehman and Beth compliments Tabitha Isner. In our main segment, we talk with Michael Wear, the founder of Public Square Strategies LLC, and a leading expert on the intersection of faith, politics and American public life. Wear directed faith outreach for President Obama's historic 2012 re-election campaign and was one of the youngest White House staffers in modern American history, leading evangelical outreach and helping manage The White House's engagement on religious and values issues, including adoption and anti-human trafficking efforts. He is also the author of Reclaiming Hope: Lessons Learned in the Obama White House About the Future of Faith in America and the recent viral post Pro-life Voters and Pro-Choice Politicians.

Outside of politics, Michael joins us to talk about The Crown and his love for Lidia Bastianich


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Sarah talks with Kerry Boyd Anderson, a Political Risk Consultant and our Pantsuit Politics Middle East expert, about the protests in Iran.


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Since so many of you are new to Pantsuit Politics, we thought we would rebroadcast one of our earlier episodes in which our different approaches are more readily apparent. In this episode, we imagine a world in which Sarah is the Democrat's nominee and Beth is the Republican's nominee. Spoiler alert: it's a far cry from what we anticipate seeing on the real debate stage. 


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After a tumultuous 2017, we're looking ahead. Inspired by Ali Edwards's One Little Word, we choose our words of the year personally and for the podcast. We also talk about our political resolutions. 

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2017 has been a long year, to say the least. We’re reflecting on that year the same way we’ve gotten through it - with a little help from our friends

Thanks to our patrons; we hope you'll consider supporting Pantsuit Politics by making a monthly contribution at Patreon and by leaving a positive review in the Apple Podcast Player for Pantsuit Politics and The Nuanced Life. Thanks to today's sponsors: Better Help and ModCloth. We're using Tsh Oxenreider's 20 Questions for a New Year's Eve reflection through the lens of politics to look back on 2017. Even better, we got help from Tsh herself, as well as other friends of the pod - listener Jennifer, our producer George, Anne Bogel of What Should I Read Next podcast, Emily Ellsworth, and Mark McKinnon.


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While Sarah enjoys some holiday time, Beth shares an interview with Sarah Chamberlain, President and CEO of the Republican Main Street Partnership -- a coalition of 70 members of Congress.

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The Republican Main Street Partnership prides itself on its commitment to "kitchen table issues." Beth asks Sarah about the party's agenda, media coverage, and the Women2Women National Conversations Tour.


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We’ve been talking about the #metoo movement at length. As the year draws to a close, we’re thinking more about what gender equality could really mean. We discuss the Republican tax plan, evangelicals and the President, and ways that our everyday conversations can promote greater equality between men and women. Thanks to our patrons; we hope you'll consider supporting Pantsuit Politics by making a monthly contribution at Patreon and by leaving a positive review in the Apple Podcast Player for Pantsuit Politics and The Nuanced Life. Thanks to today's sponsors: StoryWorth,ThirdLove, and ModCloth. The Republican tax plan brings many changes to the tax code and we talk through the changes to deductions, credits, and rates. Beth liked the Rattner charts on Morning Joe - Final GOP plan still benefits wealthy the most: Rattner charts. She also saw an interesting musical analogy. We also discussed the drive for profit v. profit maximization and a similar question asked in the documentary The Corporation. There was an incendiary story about the CDC and banned words - we tackle the story and the real story, which didn't make us feel a little bit better. Jenn Hatmaker is back in the political news with a profile in Politico. We discuss that and the broader conversation regarding evangelicals post-Roy Moore's campaign and this excellent article on the subject. Sarah compliments Rex Tillerson and Beth compliments Senator Joe Manchin. In our main segment, we discuss how to talk about gender issues and gender equality without reverting to defensiveness. We tackle mansplaining, emotional labor, and how to move the conversation forward. Outside of politics, Sarah is thinking about the holidays and Beth has launched her new coaching business!


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Doug Jones defeated Roy Moore in Alabama’s special senate election. We reflect on that race, complaints about bias in the Mueller investigation, and the tragic suicide of a Kentucky lawmaker. Thanks so much to our patrons, who make our work possible. If you'd like to support Pantsuit Politics, please visit our Patreon page. We also truly appreciate today's sponsors, ModCloth and Virtue Labs. We discuss the turnout and results of the Alabama special election, in which Democrat Doug Jones defeated Republican Roy Moore. We have different perspectives about the role that race and gender played in this race and what the race means long-term. The House Judiciary Committee believes that the Mueller investigation into Russian election interference is being tainted by partisan bias. We discuss what it would mean to adopt this theory. We'll discuss net neutrality and the tax bill in greater depth next week. We wanted to acknowledge the tragedy of Kentucky state Representative Dan Johnson's death. We reflect on the relationship between this incident and the #metoo movement. We end with listener feedback from Kerry and Erin on our Jerusalem discussion.


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Dictionary.com has made “complicit” the 2017 Word of the Year. We consider our collective responsibility and Lindy West’s powerful statement that the opposite of complicity isn’t apology; it’s fixing what you broke. Thanks to our patrons; we hope you'll consider supporting Pantsuit Politics by making a monthly contribution at Patreon and by leaving a positive review in the Apple Podcast Player for Pantsuit Politics and The Nuanced Life. Thanks to today's sponsors: Away, Lola, and ModCloth. The President has made mountains of three media errors over the last week. We discuss his relationship with media and our consumption of news. Republicans have passed a two-week stop gap measure to keep the government funded. The next deadline is December 22. We are not optimistic that all end-of-year challenges can be met in the next two weeks. Sarah compliments Senator Tim Scott for his honesty about disagreements within the Republican party. Beth compliments Bill Scher for his measured approach in the debate over the future of the DNC. In our main segment, we discuss the decision by Dictionary.com to make "complicit" the word of the year. In our wide-ranging conversation, we reference Lindy West's powerful op-ed on complicity, Richard Shelby's surprising appearance on State of the Union, Nikki Haley's comments on Roy Moore, and a recent Frank Luntz focus group in Alabama. We end, as always, by talking about what's on our minds outside of politics. Beth appreciates Spotify supporting her cover song habit. Sarah is reading and watching new shows.


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We discuss President Trump declaring Jerusalem as the capitol of Israel, as well as the resignations of John Conyers and Al Franken. We talk about the concerns about false accusations in light of the #metoo movement and Jenny's awesome video she shared with us on consent. We send our love to California and consider how often we offer sympathy and a "yes, but you choose..." along with it.

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In our feedback portion of the show, we reconsider the way we often talk about Baby Boomers in light of feedback from Juanita. We also discuss the wonderful feedback we received regarding the necessity of restraining children in special education settings.


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Michael Flynn has entered a guilty plea and is cooperating with the Mueller investigation, and the Senate took a big step toward tax cuts. With very few days left in the legislative year, we’re considering how our national priorities measure up to our professed love of children.

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Michael Flynn entered a guilty plea to lying to the FBI. Legal experts seem to agree that this relatively minor offense must mean he has valuable information to offer to the Mueller investigation. They disagree about what, if anything, it means about criminal acts by other Trump transition team officials. Here is the double jeopardy/pardon theory Sarah discussed, as well as Jared Kushner's financial interest in Israel.

Beth reflects on whether you can vote for the candidate's policy and not character (aka we talk about Roy Moore again).

The Senate passed a version of the Tax Cuts and Jobs Act and we share what we don't mind and what we hate about it. We also discuss growth and this episode of Freakonomics. We discuss the process and meaning of the vote. Meanwhile, the government still needs to be funded. And, CVS and Aetnahave announced plans to merge.

In our main segment, we talk about how our national priorities square with our expressed love for children through the prism of three topics: the funding of the Children's Health Insurance Program,


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Oscar Wilde said, “everything in the world is about sex except sex. Sex is about power.” Sex and power continue to dominate the headlines, and we’re still processing that along with our increasingly tenuous relationship with the truth. 

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In a wide-ranging discussion, we talk about the state of the news-- the revelations regarding Matt Lauer and Garrison Keillor, Republican efforts to cut taxes, North Korea, and the continued tweet-drowning presidency of Donald Trump. We also share listener feedback on our most recent #metoo conversation. 


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The tsunami of sexual harassment and assault allegations continues and is causing cultural and political reflection. Today we continue our ongoing discussion of politics, partisanship, and the #metoo movement. Thank you for everyone supporting our work on Patreon. We also appreciate our sponsors for today's podcast: Credible.com, Away, and ThirdLove. We hope you'll check out our new podcast, The Nuanced Life. Congress has a very long to-do list through the end of the year. It's important to keep in mind that in addition to plans for tax cuts, Congress needs to fund the government before year-end and deal with DACA. The attack on a mosque in the Sinai peninsula this weekend was the deadliest in modern Egypt's history. This region is under assault from ISIS and highlights the complexity of the war on terror and the deficiencies in our understanding of Islam and Africa. Richard Cordray's resignation as head of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has sparked a Marbury vs. Madison style showdown over the authority to name a replacement. We worry about the long-term consequences of more Trump administration personnel drama. The FCC has announced plans to re-classify broadband services as information services, which could effectively end net neutrality. We describe the debate over net neutrality and discuss our interest in having Congress step in to make long-term decisions about the internet's future. In our main segment we talk about the #MeToo movement and the difficult cultural inflection point that we're living. Drawing on Rebecca Traister's commentary, we talk...


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Happy Thanksgiving! We are taking a pause from politics this week and sharing the first episode of The Nuanced Life, our new podcast focused on bringing the principles we've learned through our political dialogue to non-political topics. 

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The opioid epidemic impacts all of us in increasingly significant ways. Today, we’re discussing the impact of President Trump’s decision to declare this a public health emergency.

It's Thanksgiving, and we're so grateful to everyone who makes Pantsuit Politics possible. We couldn't do the podcast without the support of our patrons, our advertising agency, and our sponsors. Thanks to today's sponsors: BeFrugal.com and ModCloth. If you're interested in advertising on Pantsuit Politics, please reach out to Midroll. We're also so excited to launch our new podcast, The Nuanced Life, this week. Thank you for helping us out by listening, rating, subscribing, and reviewing it on the Apple Podcast Player! If you'd like Pantsuit Politics to speak at your university, business, or organization, please let Beth know.

We begin with an update on Republican efforts to cut some people's and companies' taxes. Some of the provisions in the Senate bill are truly mind-boggling.

Next, we discuss the recent military coup in Zimbabwe. We talk about Robert Mugabe's rise to power, the World Health Organization's decision to revoke his appointment as a global health ambassador, the events leading up to the coup--including a military official's trip to China, and his response to being placed under house arrest. The US Senate Foreign Relations Committee seems uneasy about how power might transition in this nation.

To compliment the other side, Sarah compliments Senator Lisa Murkowski for her insistence on a healthcare stabilization plan in relation to the tax cut bill. Beth appreciates Brian Baird, who is joining forces with a former state GOP...


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Somehow, we’re still debating the Alabama senate race to fill Jeff Sessions’s seat. We’re here with additional thoughts on Doug Jones, Roy Moore, and tax cuts, plus a later-recorded segment on Al Franken and George Bush...because 2017. Thanks so much to everyone supporting our work on Patreon. If you'd like to bring some nuance to your neighborhood in 2018, please reach out to beth@pantsuitpoliticsshow.com. We also appreciate ModCloth's sponsorship of today's podcast. Please stick around for the post-roll and help us by completing this quick survey. We begin by talking about Doug Jones, Roy Moore's Democratic opponent. We share what we know about his background and policy positions. Although we hate the circumstances, we're encouraged by a bicameral, bipartisan effort to reform the process of dealing with sexual harassment in Congress. More transparency and accountability are clearly needed. Republicans continue to try to find ways to keep their tax cuts within the $1.5 trillion reconciliation box. Although there are some good things in this bill, we think the plan is mostly absurd and that tax policy and healthcare policy should be set through regular order. We discuss feedback on tax policy from listeners Peggy and Lou. After we recorded, we learned about the Al Franken and George H.W. Bush sexual harassment stories. We recorded an extra block to provide our thoughts.


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You know things have gone terribly wrong when we're having a national conversation about whether a 14-year-old girl consented to a relationship with a man in his thirties. We discuss the responses to Roy Moore, the President's presence in Asia, and the process and substance of the Republican tax cut plan.

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We take a minute to extend our thoughts and prayers to everyone impacted by the terrible earthquake in Iran and Iraq.

The Washington Post story on Roy Moore has prompted some truly outrageous reactions. We try to unpack the partisanship and tribalism at the root of these reactions as well as what all of this says about voters' shifting standards of conduct for political figures and communities of faith. Beth wishes we could take a look at Roy Moore's conduct on its own instead of trying to connect it to our personal political perspectives.

Sarah shares her perspective on stories that Sutherland Springs, Texas, is relying on faith to help cope with the devastating mass shooting that killed so many loved ones in the community. She draws on her experience from the shooting at Heath High School in 1997.

We also discuss President Trump's trip to Asia, during which he complimented China's President, neglected to discuss human rights and democracy, and took Vladimir Putin at his word regarding Russian election attacks.

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We kick off a series on the U.S. Constitution by talking about the structure of Articles I-VI. This is a very basic review that reminds us of the intricate balance between state and federal responsibilities the framers envisioned. On Tuesday's episode, we'll be talking about tax reform, so we spend some time on a specific power granted to Congress -- the power of the purse. 

Recommended resources: 

Budget Basics from National Priorities 

Congressional Research Service's Intro to Appropriations

Stan Colander in Forbes: The GOP Has Murdered the Federal Budget 


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A democratic wave on Tuesday signals that America might not be feeling great again. We discuss the election, listener feedback, and some fascinating articles on today’s episode.

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We talk about the Virginia gubernatorial race, the election of Danica Roem, and other Democratic victories on Tuesday.

Next, at listener Eva's recommendation, we discuss Peter Beinart's article, "Republican Is Not a Synonym for Racist."

We also, at listener Lisa's recommendation, discuss Conor Friedersdorf's "Four Defenses of Trump's Dissembling on Russia."

Listener Karla left beautiful feedback on our website about our discussion of Sutherland Springs that we share.

Finally, at listener Debbie's recommendation, we talk about Erica Komisar's new book on motherhood and "The Politicization of Motherhood."


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The weekend's headlines painted an incredibly depressing picture. In the wake of these events, we're realizing that America needs a serious conversation about what kind of country we want to be.

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We discuss the horrific shooting in a Sutherland Springs, Texas, church and ask how we can move past talking points on gun violence. Do we want to live in a country where church-goers carry weapons? Do we want to feel safe at concerts and in public venues? When we say this about "mental health," what do we mean?

We also discuss reporting about Wilbur Ross's financial ties to Russia.

Finally, we talk about what's on our minds outside of politics. Sarah is ready to move, and Beth is thinking about a beautiful New York Times piece on platonic relationships.


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Pantsuit Politics is two years old! We celebrate, reflect, and discuss the week's news. We are so excited about our new book coming next year and our new podcast The Nuanced Life - coming soon!

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We also were so excited to be named in The Guardian's Best podcasts of 2017!

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We are heartbroken about the deadly attack in New York this week. We discuss the President's response, a merit-based immigration system, and the Islamic State.

We also talk about Facebook and Twitter making an appearance during Senate hearings and the interference in our 2016 election - as well as this article Why Is the U.S. So Susceptible to Social-Media Distortion?. We discuss Donna Brazile's Politico article about the DNC and the role of Obama (or absence of a role) in the Democratic Party.

We respond to a listener's question about a friend who is changing her positions because of a new relationship (with an assist from Roxane Gay's fantastic article about women's friendships).

Finally, we reflect on the past two years and on the future of Pantsuit Politics.


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Happy Halloween! Paul Manafort and Rick Gates surrendered to the FBI this week, and George Papadopoulos plead guilty to lying to the FBI. We discuss the news of the week and share our conversation with Gretchen Carlson about her book, Be Fierce.

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We review what we know so far about George Papadopoulos's guilty plea and the indictment issued against Paul Manafort and Rick Gates.

To compliment the other side, Sarah compliments John Boehner for his post-office reflection, and Beth compliments Senator Claire McCaskill for her willingness to be moderate.

We had the privilege of talking with Gretchen Carlson during an event at the Taft law firm. We share portions of her remarks and our discussion.

Finally, we share what's on our minds outside of politics. Sarah's still moving and thinking about Halloween. Beth shares another tip on approaching others with a little more compassion.


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Republican Senator Jeff Flake rebuked the tone of our politics on the Senate Floor this week. We discuss his remarks and the hard conversations we need to keep having to do real work in America.

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We begin by discussing the breaking news that five(+) women have described sexual harassment from Mark Halperin. We also talk about Senator Jeff Flake's speech on the Senate floor and the revolving doors of news related to the 2016 election.

We end with listener feedback from Liz on the Boy Scouts of America and Janice on end-of-life care.


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We received an overwhelming amount of discussion from listeners about sexual harassment and assault. We've learned a lot and continue the conversation in today’s episode. Thank you to our sponsors for this episode: BaubleBar, Away, and ModCloth. To support Pantsuit Politics, please visit our Patreon page and rate, subscribe, and review the podcast on the Apple Podcast Player. We discuss the horrific ambush of US troops in Niger and try to provide some context to military engagement in western Africa. While details are still emerging about what took place, the President's team seems more engaged in a battle with Sgt. La David Johnson's family than in confronting the difficult intelligence and foreign policy questions implicated. Next, we turn to the legislature. We talk about the bipartisan work Senators Murray and Alexander are doing on healthcare and the wholly partisan approach Congressional Republicans are taking to tax cuts and the federal budget. For our compliments to the other party, Sarah compliments Former President George W. Bush for his recent remarks on civility in our discourse. Beth compliments Former President Jimmy Carter for his willingness to engage with North Korea in order to prevent escalating conflict. Because of the overwhelming feedback we received in response to our discussion of Mayim Bialik's New York Times editorial, we resume the discussion of sexual assault and harassment, sharing the lessons we have learned over the past week. We also share a message from a listener who came to understand after the fact that he engaged in non-consensual sex with a woman in college and offered up his learnings from that experience about what men must do to stop the violence. We end, as always, with what's on our minds outside of politics. Beth weighs in on personality types following


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Anne Bogel, author of Reading People: How Seeing the World Through the Lens of Personality Changes Everything, host of What Should I Read Next?, and the creator of Modern Mrs. Darcy, joins Sarah to discuss personalities. 

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On Capitol Hill, it feels like the gap between parties is increasingly wide. But across America, Republicans and Democrats build lives, homes, and families together every day. Today, we’re talking about how houses don’t have to be divided when you’re in a nuanced relationship. Thanks so much to the sponsors of today's episode: Crane & Canopy, ThirdLove, and ModCloth. We begin with a discussion on the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (the "JCPOA") and President Trump's unwillingness to certify that this agreement on Iran continues to be in America's best interests. We talk about Congress's options in light of Trump's decision. As we continue to learn more from Harvey Weinstein's victims, we discuss Mayim Bialik's controversial New York Times editorial on being a feminist in Hollywood. To compliment the other side, Sarah praises Secretary Mattis for his mature and measured service in the Trump administration. Without knowing his politics, Beth compliments Cameron Gordon, a former NFL player in training to be a police officer. Many listeners responded to our call, started by Chelsea's email, to discuss being in relationships with people from the other side of the aisle. We loved hearing from and talking with so many people and take a few minutes to reflect on what nuanced relationships can teach America. We end, as always, by talking about what's on our minds outside of politics. Sarah is in the packing mode. Beth is unsubscribing from email lists.


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While Sarah enjoys some time with family, Beth covers listener feedback on Harvey Weinstein and Class Dojo and shares an interview with Alana Jochum, Executive Director of Equality Ohio. Alana discusses advocacy for both legal and lived equality, the challenges presented by the Trump administration, and how she works to change hearts and minds to create a more inclusive society. 

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Russian agents bought Facebook ads targeted to voters in crucial swing states in last years elections, and the implications of the attention economy on our democracy go far beyond 2016. We focus on Facebook, Twitter, and the devices we use to distract ourselves from discomfort. Thanks so much to the sponsors for this episode: Baublebar, ModCloth, and Virtue Labs. We start today's podcast discussing an article on why mass shootings tend to be committed by men. We also talk about the Harvey Weinstein story and the bizarrely partisan reactions to that story. We note that the transactional nature of masculine energy seems to be taking shape in the spat that Donald Trump is having with Senator Bob Corker. To compliment the other party, Sarah commends Senator Dean Heller and other Republicans who have urged ATF to review standards on the sale of bump stocks. Beth compliments Senator Dianne Feinstein for her long-term service and work on gun safety measures. For our feature topic, we discuss why Facebook, Twitter, and Google are so effectively and perhaps unintentionally transforming our politics and brains. In our discussion, we cite the following resources: How Information Overload Robs Us of Our Creativity Our Minds Can Be Hijacked Mindful Resistance The Attention Economy and the Demise of the Middle Ground Pema Chodron on Dunzi Realizd app We end, as always, with what's on our minds outside of politics. Both of us are thinking about clearing space to make room for things that make us better.


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The Las Vegas shooting seems to be fueling rather than calming the culture wars. We talk about how God and guns do not have to tear America apart. 

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We discuss listener feedback, why gun sales spike after mass shootings, and how "thoughts and prayers" has become a cultural lightning rod. 

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We're heartbroken over the mass shooting in Las Vegas. We recorded this episode on Monday morning (October 2), so we share our initial thoughts. We also discuss the humanitarian crisis in Puerto Rico, and we share Sarah's interview with Joshua Davis.

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The preliminary reports out of Las Vegas have confirmed that the shooting near Mandalay Bay is the worst mass shooting in American history. Since information is developing, we focus on our reactions to tragedy, the conversations in our country around gun violence and gun control (and this episode of Vox's The Weeds), and how we interpret comments about "evil acts" and "thoughts and prayers."

We also react to President Trump's statements, actions, and tweets regarding the absolute horror unfolding in Puerto Rico.

As a continuation of our conversation about consumerism in American politics, we share Sarah's interview with Joshua Davis, author of From Head Shops to Whole Foods.

We end on a lighter note, discussing, as always, what's on our minds outside of politics. Beth needs everyone to know how good The Lazy Genius podcast is. Sarah is reading Hillary Clinton's book and working on her move.


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Sarah talks about Sebastian Junger's book Tribe: On Homecoming and Belonging with Kyla - a longtime listener.


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If the Trump presidency is teaching us anything, it’s that Americans have some deep psychological issues to sort out. We continue working through our patriotic therapy in today’s episode.  Thanks so much to our sponsors, ModCloth and Ellevest.  We discuss intense listener feedback to our conversation about President Trump's remarks on NFL protestors. Why is this discussion so hard? What do our reactions say about race in America and our military?  We continue this conversation by reacting Oprah's recent 60 Minutes report from a Michigan focus group.   


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America’s favorite sport has become the latest arena for partisan politics. We discuss the President’s statements on the NFL and the relationship between race, politics, and patriotism. We also talk about North Korean policy continuing to play out via Twitter and the incredible suffering Puerto Rico. We end the show with what's on our minds outside of politics--including Sarah's home purchase and an article on accidental killings that touched Beth. Thanks so much to our sponsors for today's episode: ThirdLove and ModCloth. North Korea has started referring to President Trump as "Mr. Evil President." Its foreign minister says that sending missiles to the US mainland is "inevitable," and the President tweeted that North Korea might not exist much longer if it continues this kind of rhetoric. Side note: we're grateful for professionals continuing to support this administration's foreign policy apparatus and concerned that they might exit around the one-year mark. We wish we had the right words to express the angst we feel for our fellow Americans in Puerto Rico. Days after Hurricane Irma, Hurricane Maria destroyed 90% of Puerto Rican's homes, took down power lines and internet, and created floodwaters ten feet high. We also talk about continued recovery efforts in Texas and Florida. We're particularly inspired by The Lady General Foundation's efforts. We send our thoughts to Nashville in the wake of a church shooting on Sunday. We discuss President Trump's remarks in support of Luther Strange in Alabama over the weekend and how his comments on whipping votes might impact future negotiations. To compliment the other side, Sarah highlights the work of Republican Puerto Rican Congresswoman Jenniffer Gonzalez-Colon. Beth thanks Democratic Ohio Representative Nickie Antonio for sponsoring House Bill 160, making Ohio's non-discrimination laws more inclusive. We discuss the President's comments about sports, race, and patriotism in depth. In our (not atypically!) wide-ranging discussion, we discuss what we know about

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President Trump addressed the UN this week. We discuss his remarks, the continued debate on Graham-Cassidy as a last ditch effort to repeal the Affordable Care Act, and listener feedback.

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Before discussing foreign policy, we take a moment to acknowledge the devastating earthquakes in Mexico City. Unfortunately, Mexico City is uniquely positioned for more disasters.

We talk about the speech President Trump made to the UN, in which he promised to totally destroy North Korea if necessary and talked tough about Venezuela and US sovereignty. We discuss the contradictory mix of intervention and isolation the President promised as well as the tendency on the part of Americans to forget what we "get" in exchange for our global involvement.

Next, we discuss the Graham-Cassidy bill and the inexplicable inability of legislators to make a policy case for it.

Finally, we discuss listener feedback on our Title IX conversation and Erin's question on how we do it all (and whether that's a question that we should ask each other).


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Republicans have promised tax reform by the end of the year. We talk about tax policy, the Trump plan, and the goals of our tax code. We also discuss the tragic shooting at Freeman High School, the reactions to Jason Stockley's acquittal, and the healthcare plan proposed by Senators Graham and Cassidy. We end the show with thoughts on parenting and the Emmys.

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Freeman High School. Sadly, Caleb Sharpe, a 15-year-old sophomore entered his school in Rockford, Washington, with an assault rifle and a pistol. He killed one classmate and injured three others before Joe Bowen, a janitor and military veteran, heroically intervened. Sharpe, who had given indicators that he was a danger to himself, said he intended to teach a lesson on bullying.

St. Louis. In 2011, Jason Stockley, a police officer at the time, killed Anthony Smith during a drug stop. Following a bench trial, a judge acquitted Stockley of first-degree murder. We discuss the facts and the fallout from this verdict in a city struggling with racial tension and economic angst.

Graham-Cassidy. Republicans are scrambling to pass healthcare reform in advance of the September 30 fiscal year end in order to set the table for tax reform. Senators Lindsay Graham and Bill Cassidy have proposed a new version of "repeal and replace" that would turn over funding and control to states. This Washington Post article succinctly explains the differences between various healthcare reform efforts and the Affordable Care Act. We discuss the issues with this plan and urge listeners who oppose the plan to take it seriously.

Compliment the Other Side. Beth compliments Senator Elizabeth Warren for working on legislation that would allow individuals to implement a credit freeze for free. Sarah compliments Congressman Will Hurd for comments on his recent Pod Save the World appearance.

Tax Reform. We take a deeper dive into tax reform today given the administration's stated goal of passing comprehensive tax reform by the end of the year. As


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Our alma mater is in the news for a truly heartbreaking reason. We continue our conversations about campus harassment and DACA in today’s episode

Reminder to send us your nuanced relationship stories. You can record a voice memo and email it directly to us! Also, please help push us over the finish line on our Patreon page - where Sarah has launched her own House Hunters: Paducah Edition if you want to follow along! Here's the actual House Hunters set in Paducah she mentioned in the show.

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We discuss the recent DACA "deal" between Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Donald Trump - as well as the recent internal polling with Democrats. DACA become suddenly very relevant considering a recent controversy at our alma mater Transylvania University.

We also heard from lots of y'all who have trouble giving Betsy DeVos the benefit of the doubt and the difference between skepticism and cynicism. We also talked about "levels of guiltiness" in sexual assault.

We also discuss Hillary Clinton (again) and the electoral college.


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In this conversation, Branden, Beth and Sarah, talk about bringing a distinctly women-centered perspective to the conversations happening around politics, intending only to learn from each other rather than walking into the discussions trying to win.

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This week, Betsy DeVos announced her intention to open a process that will lead to changed regulations for publicly-funded campuses responding to sexual assault allegations under Title IX. We discuss this announcement, a variety of social media hot topics, and Sarah's trip to Washington D.C.

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We briefly review the history of Title IX (also named the Patsy Takemoto Mink Equal Opportunity in Education Act) before discussing Betsy DeVos's announcement that she'll be reviewing and replacing the Obama administration's guidance on campus sexual assault. We talk about the difficulty of grappling with both the criminal and non-criminal aspects of harassment, the i


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Sarah is in Washington D.C. as part of her #CommissionerHolland duties, so this episode features two interviews. First, Beth talks with Angie Ferguson, a Kentucky state judicial secretary (and fellow Phi Mu and Transylvania University alum) about the public pension crisis. Then, Beth talks with Zahava Stadler, Manager of Policy and Research at EdBuild, about school funding, inequality, and new ways to think about education.

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Angie Ferguson has been with the Kentucky state court system for 13 years. During that time, she has paid into Kentucky's non-hazardous workers' pension system. Angie recognizes that something has to give in our benefits system. She also knows that we aren't paying public workers enough to reasonably expect to shift all of the risk and burden to individuals. She gives us some live Friday feedback in this episode.

Zahava Stadler is the Manager of Policy and Research at EdBuild, a national non-profit focused on bringing common sense solutions to school funding. Zahava and Beth discuss how we accept real property tax funding at the local level for schools as part of the natural order, and, in doing so, contribute to an unequal school system that fails many of our children.


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Unfunded pension obligations have risen to $1.9 trillion from $292 billion since 2007. Today we talk about public pension systems, partisanship, and problem-solving. In the Pearls, we discuss reports that President Trump will end the Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals program ("DACA") and North Korea's hydrogen bomb test. In the Heels, we talk about Sarah's upcoming trip to Washington, D.C. and Beth's life decisions.

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This weekend, reports surfaced that President Trump will end DACA, which President Obama enacted via executive order in June 2012. DACA provides a renewable period of deferred deportation and eligibility for work visas to individuals who meet certain eligibility requirements, including that they entered the United States prior to their sixteenth birthdays and pose no threat to national security or public safety. DACA funds itself through application fees, and a 2016 study found that it has had a positive employment impact for the eligible population. Nevertheless, the President is reported to be living up to his campaign promise to end DACA in six months. We discuss this decision, particularly given the impact it will have on people already suffering from Hurricane Harvey.

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In today's episode of the Briefcase, we talk about the devastating impacts of Hurricane Harvey, the humans lessons we can take from this moment in time, and how and when to discuss the political impact of natural disasters. We also discuss the new documentary, Accidental Courtesy, about a black man who befriends members of the Ku Klux Klan.

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As our country continues to feel divisive and unstable, it can be helpful to focus on our shared struggles. Today, our listener, Aubrey, shares her story and offers a nuanced perspective on sex addiction. In the Pearls we discuss President Trump's decision to pardon Joe Arpaio, North Korea's latest missile test, and the devastating effects of Hurricane Harvey.

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The White House took the concept of a Friday night news dump to new heights over the weekend. We discuss the implications of President Trump's decision to pardon Sherriff Joe Arpaio and what we didn't know about Arpaio. In addition to inflaming racial tensions, the pardon could also impact Robert Mueller's investigation.

After the President claiming during his Phoenix rally that North Korea has started to respect the United States, North Korea launched three short-range ballistic missiles. This news comes as the President signed a directive banning transgender military service.

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This week, we heard from the President about his strategy in Afghanistan. Sarah was impressed that according to several reports the President spoke with soldiers before making decision and Beth reflects that most of her reaction was due to her lack of trust in Trump. We also discuss The Daily's reporting on the long-term strategy in Afghanistan with regard to Pakistan in particular.

Then, we watched him give a 77-minute speech during a campaign rally in Phoenix and talk about Ben Carson's presence and his continued attacks on the media. We also struggle with people continuing to support Trump. We reflect on our reactions to these two speeches.

We also discuss presidential pardons and this great Twitter thread on the subject (also don't miss the moment where Sarah confuses Chelsea Handler for Chelsea Manning!). We also talk about whether or not the Founding Fathers anticipated Trump.

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Are you feeling like everyone is angry and crazy? We talk about productive ways to discuss Confederate monuments and Donald Trump.

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Steve Bannon is out of the White House, and it took him ten hot seconds to be back in command at Brietbart. The President has named Hope Hicks as his new communications director.

For our compliments to the other side, Beth appreciates Laura Smith for her compelling, chilling look at the role white women play in white supremacy. Sarah compliments Kentucky state senator, Wil Schroder, and others around the country who are calling for the removal of Confederate monuments from state buildings.

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Listener Kerry wrote to us about the strange world created by social media. How do we interact with loved ones with whom we have primarily digital relationships around controversial topics? We talk about speech, Confederate monuments, and our social media practices.

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From redpepper in Nashville, TN, we hang out with a roomful of awesome people to discuss the President's remarks on Charlottesville (that he made while we were conducting a workshop on getting involved!) and the importance of women in politics.

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Many of you have been asking for an update on Sarah's life as a city commissioner. She invited her friend and Paducah Mayor Brandi Harless to chat openly about what it was like to run and win and then govern!

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According to the New York Times, the Department of Justice is taking on affirmative action in admissions. We discuss this controversial policy, as well as Congress's plans after the August recess.

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Congress has BIG plans for their return from August recess and we are skeptical they can get any of it accomplished.

Listener Caitlin sent us the New York Times editorial Motherhood Isn’t Sacrifice, It’s Selfishness and we talked about whether or not we agreed and what the type of impact this discussion had on those who choose not to have children. We mentioned this book by Caitlin Moran and this essay by Ayelet Waldman.

We compliment Senator Alexander and Senator Murray on their bipartisan approach to health care.

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During John Kelly's first week as Chief of Staff, the President rolled out a plan to curb legal immigration. Beth discusses this plan and the future of healthcare and tax reform legislation with Perry Bacon of FiveThirtyEight.

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While Sarah enjoys time away with family, former Congressional staffer and writer Emily Ellsworth joins Beth to discuss the news of the week and effectively contacting your representatives.

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We discuss the Senate's failure to pass a repeal or replacement of the Affordable Care Act, including the valiant efforts of Senators Susan Collins and Lisa Murkowski.

We also talk about Reince Preibus's departure from the White House and the President's appointment of John Kelly as the new Chief of Staff.

To compliment the other side, Beth highlights the work of Take Back Our Republic, and Emily compliments Chuck Schumer.

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We discuss Emily's viral tweetstorm and Call the Halls: Contacting Your Representatives the Smart Way.

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Since we're both introverts, we discuss the introversion, the internet, public service, and the importance of our extroverted friends.

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Sarah talks with our Pantsuit Politics Book Club founder Megan Hart and former U.S. Representative for Pennsylvania's 4th congressional district Jason Altmire about the book club's June pick The Righteous Mind: Why Good People Are Divided by Politics and Religion by Jonathan Haidt. Next month's pick is Tribe by Sebastian Junger.

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On most days, you can bank on the news being brought to a grinding halt by a tweet from the President. Today we discuss all of the problems we aren’t solving because we are fixated on his 140 character musings.

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Sean Spicer is out, and Anthony Scaramucci is in. We struggle to care about that, but we do get a little fired up about "the Mooch" making sexist comments about new Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders.

Surprise! There's more stuff that Jared Kushner left out of required disclosures. We try to put the constant barrage of information in perspective.

We'd love to offer a nuanced analysis of the healthcare bill that will be voted on this week. If only we knew what's in it.

Listener Leslie compliments Senators Rand Paul and Kamala Harris.

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We're as guilty as anyone of focusing too much on the President's tweets. But there's a giant world of problems that we aren't solving because of this obsession. We start making that list.

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It's been another whirlwind week, so we experiment with covering five topics each in 20 minutes.

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Here's our lightening round!

  1. The President's interview with the New York Times is really something. We also discuss 'The Daily': Life as a G.O.P. Congressman in the Trump Era

  2. Apologies to Ann Coulter -- she paid for extra leg room not an extra seat. Here's the article Sarah mentioned about observations v. expectations - The Silent Killer Of Relationships — Derek Harvey.

  3. We're sending our thoughts to Senator McCain.

  4. Leah asked for our thoughts on Charles Koch's interview with Freakonomics.

  5. This episode of Criminal about the clergy abortion network blew us away.

  6. Jana gave Beth a great intro suggestion, as the struggle to identify with the parties continues.

  7. Our listener Peggy thinks the President's remarks about Brigitte Macron were directed at the French President.

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We take a look at the frightening possibilities ahead for humanity because the planet is getting warmer. In the Pearls we discuss Colombia's continued peace process and President Trump's comment to Brigitte Macron and compliment the other party. In the Heels, we discuss cooking and eating.

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Today, we discuss the reporting regarding Donald Trump, Jr., and the Russian influence in the United States today.

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Donald Trump, Jr.'s behavior has us reeling. Plus, we discuss Leah's feedback on our antitrust episode:

On antitrust, your discussion of the very grey area was so important. I'm a policy lawyer in the agricultural industry, and consolidation and mergers are a huge topic for our industry like most. Obviously, there are concerns about putting market share into less and less companies, and I share those concerns. At the same time, the costs, for example, of bringing new seed or a new drug to market are prohibitive and possibly insurmountable for any new/small company to actually hurdle. So, along with this discussion of what the corporations are doing to limit market access, is a question of, has the government through regulation or other means also (unintentionally) encouraged that consolidation and lack of market access? I'm totally in support of reasonable regulation and I see the need for a lot of the reviews/permits/etc that have to be done for many of these companies that create high tech solutions like seeds, pharmaceuticals/etc. At the same time, if those requirements are making it impossible for new innovation to be explored (and if that new innovation is not going to be properly funded through public research-but that's another issue) than aren't we (collectively as the govt/people demanding this) at least contributing to the issue of the consolidation?

We also appreciate our listener Sarah explaining that paper was indeed invented by a person at a specific time:

Sarah, you made an off-hand comment in the latest episode about how no one really invented paper, and societies all simultaneously invented it. It was actually invented in China in 105 AD by Tsai Lun. Papyrus, because it is woven, is not technically paper, so it was definitely invented in China at one time (approximately).


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We spend a lot of time talking about the size and scope of government. Today, we turn those questions to private industry.

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Chancellor Angela Merkel hosted the G20 in Hamburg, and it was a tough time. Merkel and others (including this Australian journalist) criticized the United States for the President's decision to exit the global climate accord. Ivanka Trump sat in for her father for part of the summit, prompting controversy. The President met with Vladimir Putin -- a meeting that generated conflicting accounts,

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In this quick primer, we set the table for a discussion of federal antitrust laws and enforcement. 

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Mitch McConnell has been our Senator since we were toddlers. We have thoughts.

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North Korea launched an intercontinental ballistic missile, and the Trump administration is considering U.S. options. We discuss how we'd handle this escalating situation if we were in the White House.

Representative Clay Higgins filmed himself discussing his public service in a gas chamber in Auschwitz. He has apologized. We reflect on whether we're losing our sense of sacred spaces.

We discuss listener feedback on patriotism before turning to our thoughts on Kentucky Senator and Majority Leader Mitch McConnell. Believe it or not, McConnell used to be a moderate and even helped work toward passage of the Equal Rights Amendment. But the Senator has built his career on tactical, rather than legislative, achievements and is now seeking the tactical victory of repealing the Affordable Care Act. We talk about what we've observed and hoped for in our Senator.


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It's an interesting year to celebrate America's birth. We talk about our patriotism here in 2017.

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We discuss the President's vile tweets about Mika Brzezinski and CNN. We also talk about lectureporn and its manifestation in a recent HuffPo piece. We're frustrated by the general approach of the Trump administration (and Sarah discusses the downside of the cautious Obama administration). While the lectureporn essay is aimed at liberal narcissism, it applies to the conservative narcissism on display in the new NRA...


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We discuss the Supreme Court's decision on the President's travel ban and your overwhelming health care feedback.

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We discuss the Supreme Court and the difficulty created by its new order on the President's travel ban. We also talk about political questions and the unintended consequences of Supreme Court decisions.

The Senate delayed its vote on the BCRA. We discuss the politics and substance, along with your fantastic feedback.


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In today's podcast, we discuss Mitch McConnell's Better Care Reconciliation Act. We also talk about PRIDE month and the gentrification of gay neighborhoods and Trump's Africa policy in the Pearls. In the Heels, we discuss the tragedy of Sarah's cell phone and too many birthday gifts.

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We celebrate PRIDE month and all the progress that has been made for LGBTQ+ rights. We also discuss the New York Times's fascinating piece on the gentrification of gayborhoods, gentrification in general, and the affordable housing crisis.

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We talk about the results in Georgia's Special Election, as well as changes in the White House Press Office and at Uber. We also share listener feedback.

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Sarah shares her disappointment in Jon Ossoff's defeat and Beth shares her concern about the level of spending in the race. We also talk about the Nancy Pelosi blowback post-Election Day. We also discuss Sean Spicer changing role within the White House and how many recruitment problems the Trump administration is having.

Rebecca had fabulous feedback on her belief that everyone's character traits are neutral and it's all about how they are used - even with Donald Trump. Shannon shared her thoughts on the "texting" case and how repulsive the text were.

Lastly, we talk about the ouster of Travis Kalanick at Uber and the importance of leading a productive and supportive culture.


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Pedro Freyre, a nationally-recognized expert on US-Cuba relations with deep personal ties to Cuba, joins Beth for a brief discussion of the country and its relations with the United States. 

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Trump's Cuba Policy

Huffington Post: Ending Insular Thinking 


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Senate Republicans say they’re going to fix the health care system by July 4th, but they won’t say how. A jury couldn’t convict Bill Cosby or the officer who shot Philander Castile, and we’re wondering about the effectiveness of all three branches of government.

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We discuss the verdict in the Philando Castile murder trial and the hung jury in Bill Cosby's case. We're wondering how much the...


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Three very strange things happened this week: the Attorney General testified before the Senate Intelligence Committee; the Cabinet lavished praise on the President in a public meeting; and a man fired shots at Congressional Republicans during their baseball practice in what we've learned was a politically-motivated act of violence.

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We talk about Attorney General Jeff Sessions's testimony before the Senate Intelligence Committee. Summary: he doesn't remember much. We also talk about the treatment of Senator Kamala Harris and wonder what the future will hold for Trump staffers.

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We cover the latest Senate Intelligence Committee hearings in the Pearls. In the Suit, we talk about free speech and political correctness. In the heels, we discuss Stonehenge and Orange is the New Black. And we close out the show with a song from Revolution Choir!

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We discuss the Senate Intelligence Committee hearings last week. First, we talk a little about Dan Coats and Admiral Mike Rogers. Coats is the Director of National Intelligence, a position created in the late 1970s to serve as the principal intelligence advisor to the White House. Rogers is the Director of the National Security Agency, which collects intelligence and focuses on both offensive and defensive actions in cyberspace.

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Sarah interviews Jason Silverstein, lecturer at Harvard Medical School and writer for Vice’s health channel Tonic, about global health, whether or not health care is a human right, and empathy in our societal lives. We talk about Jason's articles on the ridiculous way we talk about maternity care, the risk to families with terminally ill children, and the empathy gap on pain perception between races. We also mention this article in Marie Claire that addresses a similar problem for women and what all this means for the drug epidemic as recently covered by the New York Times. MEMBERSHIP DRIVE Pantsuit Politics takes time and energy to produce and that's why we're asking for your help and support. By pleading your monthly support for Pantsuit Politics, you make it possible to produce additional content, improve our offerings, and host events. Check out our Patreon page to see how you can support our show and get loads of additional content! SPONSORS: Aaptiv What do you get when an app that Sarah is obsessed with becomes a sponsor of the show? Aaptiv - a fitness app that provides audio workouts guided by a trainer synched with the perfect playlist and fully customizable by workout type, machine, duration, and intensity. Aaptiv is are offering our listeners a free 30 day trial. Go to https://aaptiv.com, sign up for a monthly subscription, and enter promo code PANTSUIT. Modcloth Snag all your summer essentials with this exclusive deal. Shop now at modcloth dot com and enter promo code "PANTSUIT" at checkout to get 30% off your order of $100 or more! Make every day extraordinary at ModCloth. Leave us a review on iTunes by clicking here! Subscribe to Episodes: iTunes | Android Subscribe to our weekly email and get a free Pantsuit Primer audiobook! Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook


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Beth calls in from Scotland and we talk about the latest attacks in London as well as the upcoming election. We share Beth's interview with Derek Cohen and talk summer trips in the Pearls.

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Beth interviews Chris Seelbach, a Democrat and member of Cincinnati’s City Council. Seelbach is Cincinnati’s first openly-gay council member and has led the charge on progressive policies in Cincinnati. From banning conversation therapy to transgender rights, Seelbach believes that honest and hard conversations are crucial to bringing people together. Chris was recognized by President Obama as a “Champion of Change.” MEMBERSHIP DRIVE Pantsuit Politics takes time and energy to produce and that's why we're asking for your help and support. By pleading your monthly support for Pantsuit Politics, you make it possible to produce additional content, improve our offerings, and host events. Check out our Patreon page to see how you can support our show and get loads of additional content! SPONSORS: Aaptiv What do you get when an app that Sarah is obsessed with becomes a sponsor of the show? Aaptiv - a fitness app that provides audio workouts guided by a trainer synched with the perfect playlist and fully customizable by workout type, machine, duration, and intensity. Aaptiv is are offering our listeners a free 30 day trial. Go to https://aaptiv.com, sign up for a monthly subscription, and enter promo code PANTSUIT. Leave us a review on iTunes by clicking here! Subscribe to Episodes: iTunes | Android Subscribe to our weekly email and get a free Pantsuit Primer audiobook! Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook


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We cover the G7 summit and tragic news out of Oregon and Beth shares her interview with Sarah Rumpf - Republican operative and former Evan McMullin communications director.

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WNYC On the Media: When our phones are our very own, tailor-made media universes, and our social media feeds are seeded with opinions and lies, how can we possibly find common ground? Thankfully, there is one way to maintain a level of frankness and transparency in your media. Listen to On the Media, WNYC’s weekly investigation into how the media shapes our world view. While maintaining the civility and fairness that are the hallmarks of public radio, the team at On the Media tackles sticky issues and untangles this era’s most intractable questions. Brooke Gladstone and Bob Garfield are your hosts on a search for the truth in a 24-hour news cycle. Catch them on their weekly podcast, On the Media, on Apple Podcasts, Google Play, Stitcher, Spotify, or wherever you get your podcasts! Leave us a review on iTunes by clicking here! Subscribe to Episodes: iTunes | Android Subscribe to our weekly email and get a free Pantsuit Primer audiobook! Follow Us: Instagram |


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Sarah chats with Annie Jones from the podcast From the Front Porch about the importance of reading fiction. (Check out Sarah's discussion on Annie's podcast about the politics of being southern.)

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Annie owns The Bookshelf in Thomasville, Georgia, and came with lots of great fiction recommendations including:

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We talk today about the President's trip abroad, bipartisan legislation on cybersecurity, a religious freedom executive order, and The Crisis of the Middle Class Constitution.

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It's been another whirlwind week!

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We catch up on the news since our Tuesday episode:

  • On Tuesday morning, the President tweeted that he had properly shared information with Russian officials in order to pressure them to join the fight against ISIS.
  • We then learned that Israel was the source of information shared with Russia. That's complicated, but we didn't have time to think about how complicated because...
  • The New York Times reported that James Comey kept contemporaneous memos of conversations with President Trump, and that one of those memos details the President asking Comey to back off Michael Flynn.
  • Meanwhile, the President met with the Turkish president, and protestors were attacked outside the Turkish embassy.
  • Also, a subpoena was issued for financial records related to a loan Paul Manafort took out right after leaving the Trump campaign.
  • Representative Jason Chaffetz demanded to see all the Comey memos.
  • Members of Congress started openly discussing

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Today, we're talking about the Washington Post's reporting that President Trump shared classified information with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak. In the Suit, we discuss Evan Osnos's May 8 article "How Trump Could Get Fired." In the Heels, we reflect on our Mother's Day weekends.

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We struggle maintaining our nuance in the face of Sally Yate's testimony and (most impactful) President Trump's firing of FBI Director James Comey.

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We discuss the takeaways from Sally Yates's testimony before Congress, including the fact that President Obama warned Donald Trump not to hire Michael Flynn.

As we now know, Donald Trump did hire, then fire Michael Fynn - as well as Sally Yates - and most shockingly FBI Director James Comey. Before Comey was fired there were additional subpoenas issued for Michael Flynn's associates from the US Attorney's office in Virginia and since then the Senate has subpoenaed Micheal Flynn himself.

We discuss Trump's letter, Session's letter, and Rosenstein's memo. We also express exasperation at the White House's handling of the process and aftermath of the firing, including the entirely bizarre moment with Spicer and the bushes.

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The Trump campaign successfully took over the Republican party, replacing conservatism with nationalism. Today, we discuss globalism as the new dividing line. In the Pearls, we talk about the House's passage of the American Health Care Act and the French election, and in the Heels we discuss the Kentucky Derby, Beth's car accident, and the way our brains and bodies work together.

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We're excited to launch our first annual membership drive. Pantsuit Politics has become more than we could have imagined, and we want to meet the expectations of our growing community. We are constrained only by time and resources, and we truly appreciate listener support. Visit our Patreon page to check out our goals and the ways that we are trying to thoughtfully provide additional value to subscribers.

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Harry & David Whether she’s a wine aficionado, a chocolate lover, or a fruit fanatic, Harry & David has something Mom’s guaranteed to love. UP TO 30% off select Mother’s Day items is an amazing deal, but it expires Friday. Harry & David is part of the 1-800 Flowers family of brands and the company we trust with Mom’s special day. Get up to 30% off select Mother’s Day favorites NOW! Just go to http://harryanddavid.com, click the radio icon and enter code PANTSUIT.

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Mo Brooks makes interesting connects between morality and health. Elizabeth Warren criticizes President Obama. Donald Trump becomes a Civil War historian and Hillary Clinton starts talking. We discuss it all and address listener feedback.

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In a CNN interview, Representative Mo Brooks, an Alabama Republican, said, "It will free healthy people from having to pay the cost of the sick. It will allow insurance companies to require people who have higher health care costs to contribute more to the insurance pool that helps offset all these costs, thereby reducing the cost to those people who lead good lives, they’re healthy, they’ve done the things to keep their bodies healthy. And right now, those are the people who have done things the right way that are seeing their costs skyrocketing.” We discuss the morality of healthy, as well as Blue Zones. Elizabeth Warren critiqued President Obama during an interview with the Guardian, “I think President Obama, like many others in both parties, talks about a set of big national statistics that look shiny and great but increasingly have giant blind spots,” she said. “That GDP, unemployment, no longer reflect the lived experiences of most Americans. And the lived experiences of most Americans is that they are being left behind in this economy. Worse than being left behind, they’re getting kicked in the teeth.” President Trump, in an


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Arkansas is carrying out a wave of lethal injections. Today, we reflect on the death penalty in the United States. In the Pearls, we discuss the order enjoining President Trump's sanctuary cities order, President Trump's first hundred days, and the attack at Transylvania University. In the Heels, we discuss the Handmaid's Tale and the Whitney Plantation.

Membership Drive

We're excited to launch our first annual membership drive. Pantsuit Politics has become more than we could have imagined, and we want to meet the expectations of our growing community. We are constrained only by time and resources, and we truly appreciate listener support. Visit our Patreon page to check out our goals and the ways that we are trying to thoughtfully provide additional value to subscribers.

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Aaptiv What do you get when an app that Sarah is obsessed with becomes a sponsor of the show? Aaptiv - a fitness app that provides audio workouts guided by a trainer synched with the perfect playlist and fully customizable by workout type, machine, duration, and intensity. Aaptiv is are offering our listeners a free 30 day trial. Go to https://aaptiv.com, sign up for a monthly subscription, and enter promo code PANTSUIT.

Harry & David Whether she’s a wine aficionado, a chocolate lover, or a fruit fanatic, Harry & David has something Mom’s guaranteed to love. UP TO 30% off select Mother’s Day items is an amazing deal, but it expires Friday. Harry & David is part of the 1-800 Flowers family of brands and the company we trust with Mom’s special day. Get up to 30% off select Mother’s Day favorites NOW! Just go to http://harryanddavid.com, click the radio icon and enter code PANTSUIT.

CREDO Moblie What if you could make the world a little bit better every time you used your cell phone? Well, it turns out you can, thanks to CREDO Mobile. Because, whenever you use a CREDO product or service, you generate critical donations for progressive causes and vital activism work – at no extra cost to you. With over $150,000 donated every month to nonprofits like Planned Parenthood and the ACLU, CREDO truly does give you the power to make positive social change every day. Not to mention, they offer coverage on the nation’s largest and most dependable 4G LTE network, and you can easily transfer over with your existing number. So, if you want a better world for all of us, AND a better way to stay connected to it, you want CREDO mobile. And, right now, CREDO has a special deal for our listeners. Go to CREDOMobile.COM/pantsuit and get 2 smartphones FREE plus 50% off unlimited talk and text. Or call 1-866-689-0099. It’s time your phone company represented your value Leave us a review on iTunes by clicking here! Subscribe to Episodes: iTunes | Android Subscribe to our weekly email and get a free Pantsuit Primer audiobook! Follow Us: Instagram |


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With Sarah in New Orleans and Beth in D.C., the sound in this episode isn't ideal, but we hope the substance is worth it. First, we talk about Beth's experience at Vox Conversations before moving into a lightening round conversation about the news of the week:

Michael Flynn's acceptance of payments from foreign governments

The White House's release of a tax reform memo

Efforts to resuscitate health care reform in the House

President Obama's lucrative speaking gig

A federal judge enjoining President Trump's executive order on sanctuary cities

Our Friday feedback comes directly from our listeners who attended dinner in DC.

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Today, we discuss the post-mortem looks at the Clinton campaign, along with Trump's first hundred days in office, the French election, and the looming deadline for funding the government.

The Pearls

We're close to the end of the first hundred days of the Trump presidency, and it's becoming clear that President Trump has accomplished some, but certainly not all of the items on his Contract with the American Voter. While the 100 day marker is relatively artificial, it has become a flashpoint in journalism and analysis, and we think there's some merit to starting strong.

The French voted over the weekend, with moderate Emmanuel Macron and nationalist Marine Le Pen emerging as the top two candidates. They'll face off in June. Le Pen is widely seen as an extremist, and most French politicians are quickly lining up to support Macron.

Congress has until April 28 to pass a continuing resolution for funding the government. The Trump administration has made funding contentious by taking a hard line on its priorities. The administration is sharply focused on funding a border wall and increasing military spending.

Sarah extended her compliment for the other party this week to Representative Jamie Comer (and then added kudos for Joni Ernst following remarks critical of President Trump for spending so much time away from the White House). Beth complimented Dick Durbin for his nuanced take on Democratic candidates' positions on reproductive rights.

The Suit

We discussed the conversation emerging from Shattered: Inside Hillary Clinton's Doomed Campaign by Jonathan Allen and Amie Parnes. We think the focus should be less on campaign infighting and drama and more on what we can learn going forward.

The Heels

Beth shares a little about her sister, Kimberly's, wedding, and we talk more about Sarah's house hunt.


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In today's Briefcase, we discuss elections in Georgia, Turkey, and the U.K., along with listener feedback.

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Harry & David Whether she’s a wine aficionado, a chocolate lover, or a fruit fanatic, Harry & David has something Mom’s guaranteed to love. UP TO 30% off select Mother’s Day items is an amazing deal, but it expires Friday. Harry & David is part of the 1-800 Flowers family of brands and the company we trust with Mom’s special day. Get up to 30% off select Mother’s Day favorites NOW! Just go to http://harryanddavid.com, click the radio icon and enter code PANTSUIT.

CREDO Moblie What if you could make the world a little bit better every time you used your cell phone? Well, it turns out you can, thanks to CREDO Mobile. Because, whenever you use a CREDO product or service, you generate critical donations for progressive causes and vital activism work – at no extra cost to you. With over $150,000 donated every month to nonprofits like Planned Parenthood and the ACLU, CREDO truly does give you the power to make positive social change every day. Not to mention, they offer coverage on the nation’s largest and most dependable 4G LTE network, and you can easily transfer over with your existing number. So, if you want a better world for all of us, AND a better way to stay connected to it, you want CREDO mobile. And, right now, CREDO has a special deal for our listeners. Go to CREDOMobile.COM/pantsuit and get 2 smartphones FREE plus 50% off unlimited talk and text. Or call 1-866-689-0099. It’s time your phone company represented your value​​​​​​​ Leave us a review on iTunes by clicking here! Subscribe to Episodes: iTunes | Android Subscribe to our weekly email and get a free Pantsuit Primer audiobook! Follow Us: Instagram | Twitter | Facebook

The state of Georgia held a special election to replace Rep. Tom Price (now the Secretary of Health and Human Services). Democrats invested heavily in 30-year-old Jon Ossoff. In a crowded field and a district that Price carried by 23 points, Ossoff did well but failed to...


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Today, we're discussing the most difficult problem facing the Trump administration: what to do about North Korea.

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First, in the Pearls, we discuss a new law repealing an Obama-era rule on funding for Planned Parenthood. Sarah recommends this documentary on abortion. We also talk about the Trump administration's decision not to make White House visitor logs public. For our compliments to the other side, Sarah compliments Republican governors in blue states (Massachusetts, Vermont, Maryland), who tend to be enormously popular and effective. Beth was impressed by a profile of Governor Dannell Malloy of Connecticut.

In The Suit, we discuss North Korea. We recorded this episode prior to North Korea's failed missile test, but the question remains--how should the Trump administration respond to North Korea's weapons program? So far, the Trump administration has


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Spend 20 minutes with Beth preparing for Tuesday's episode with some North Korean geography, history, and facts about the current state and its leader, Kim Jong-un. 

Recommended Resources: 

North Korea's Nuclear Program

Fast Facts on North Korea 

The Official Website of North Korea 

Understanding Kim Jong-un

Trump Inherits a Secret Cyberwar Against North Korea 


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We tackle Glenn Greenwald's The Spoils of War: Trump Lavished With Media and Bipartisan Praise For Bombing Syria point by point as well as tackle listener feedback on environmental regulations and the need for love not fear.

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Sarah discusses the Pantsuit Politics Book Club March pick - J.D. Vance's memoir Hillbilly Elegy with Jean, a stay-at-home mom from Central New York who was unimpressed with the best seller.

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Jean's beginning thoughts on J.D. Vance and Hillbilly Elegy

"He is a bad source for what he is trying to get you to understand about these people. He is intrinsically different and always was because while the people he was talking about had the fuck it mentality, he didn't. he wanted out and knew it. he used the military as many often do to pull himself out. something that any of the others could do but dont because theyve already given up. like the bird that doesnt leave the cage when the doors open. He cant understand his own people and maybe thats why he comes off as judgy, because hes trying to tell a story from a mold he doesnt fit. My degree is in Psych, I have a deep rooted desire to understand why people think the way they do. I expected him to be a first hand source to aid in that understanding, but hes not. He is the outsider looking in at his own people because of that intrinsic difference between his drive and their lack of it, which means even he doesnt understand why they do and think the way they do.

We also discussed:

Arlie Russell Hochschild Strangers in their own Land

S*town podcast

Morgan Spurlock's 30 Days

James Frey's A Million Little Pieces

The Pantsuit Politics Book Club will be reading The Crisis of the Middle-Class Constitution: Why Economic Inequality Threatens Our Republic by Ganesh Sitaraman.


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Today, in the pearls, we have a Kentucky theme—we’re going to talk a little about President Trump’s actions on coal and the Washington Post’s scathing editorial about Mitch McConnell. Then in the Suit we discuss the military strike in Syria, and in the Heels, we’ll discuss what’s on our minds outside of politics this week.

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We acknowledge the horrendous attacks in Sweden and Egypt.

Sweden mourns 4 killed, 15 wounded in Stockholm truck attack

Palm Sunday bombings kill dozens at churches in Egypt

In our Kentucky-themed Pearls, we discuss Trump's recent actions on coal and the Saturday Night Live skit targeting Trump's Kentucky supporters.

Trump moves toward relief from water rule that threatens coal

Trump signs law rolling back disclosure rule for energy and mining

We also discuss the Washington Post’s scathing editorial about Mitch McConnell.

We both compliment Senators from the other side who criticized the party line with regards to the recent rule change.

In the Suit, we respond to our listener Katie's concerns that "'peace through strength' is getting more and more antiquated with every generation."

We also share our previous views on Syria we both shared on Sarah's blog before the podcast began.

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Sarah returns to Pantsuit Politics on Tuesday's episode. For today's Briefcase, we have a special episode focused primarily on foreign policy. We're delighted to have Kerry Boyd Anderson on the podcast. Kerry is a political risk consultant with more than 14 years experience as a professional analyst of international security issues and Middle East political and business risks. She started her own company a year ago and is also a contributor to Gulf News in Dubai. She was previously a Deputy Director for Advisory services with Oxford Analytica. Kerry joins Beth for a discussion of the humanitarian, military, and political crisis unfolding in Syria.

Then Dante, our Chief Creative Officer, takes a spin in Sarah's chair to discuss the news of the week and listener feedback. Beth and Dante talk about President Trump's comments throughout the week, Ambassador Nikki Haley's comments at the United Nations, and the White House's potentially shifting position on Syria. We then discuss North Korea's test missiles and Rex Tillerson's strange response.

Finally, we turn to the confirmation hearings for Judge Neil Gorsuch and discuss the Democratic and Republican positions with respect to the Supreme Court.

We received great feedback this week and will save most of it for next week, but we had to address Sandy's question:

I have yet to have an experience with regulations that was not literally "job creating" for me and/or rigor/responsibility-instigating. I cannot really trace back an example where a regulation has forced a company to make significant cuts or go under. (I do, however, know of companies in the Chemical Engineering realm have utilized tax breaks intended for cleaner energy...but only did so in loop-hole/ethically questionable way...but maybe that's a different topic). Perhaps if I played out a scenario where the presence of regulations did make companies paralyzed (e.g. God forbid, if Honda leaked tons of antifreeze into storm water, knew about it, didn't report it ever, and then somehow owed a sum that would take them out), it feels like at that point such irresponsibility would have to be quite consequential.

And I guess that's my question: Why does this "anti-regulation" rhetoric exist? Does it have any grounds? Is it just a rallying cry? Some attempt to beef up some stocks or something?

Once I stopped and thought about it in my own life experiences and realized it didn't match my life experiences, I got confused & concerned. Thoughts? Love you ladies!

As always, we so appreciate the support...


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We are delighted to be jointly hosting a discussion of global citizenship with Tsh Oxenreider, founder of The Art of Simple, The Simple Show, and author of Organized Simplicity: The Clutter-Free Approach to Intentional Living, Notes from a Blue Bike: The Art of Living Intentionally in a Chaotic World, and At Home in the World: Reflections on Belonging While Wandering the Globe.

With Tsh, we discuss what we've learned about podcasting, news, raising children who care about the world around them. We talk about how the world is actually getting better all the time, and we discuss Tsh's travels with her husband and three children.


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Before we got started, we thanked everyone for their patience as our feed repopulated. The good news is you can now go all the way back to our premiere episode in the feed! We talked about Ivanka's new role as special assistant to the president. We also discussed the Washington Post's profile of Karen Pence and the controversy over several observations about the Vice President's marriage. We praised the Senate Intelligence Committee for being the adults in the room. We discussed feedback from Brynn on the need to empathize with everyone. "So I’m finding myself constantly caught in this catch 22 where I want to emphasize with Trump supporters who feel betrayed, while at the same time fighting back the urge to just SCREAM “we told you so!”"

Allison wrote in and wondered "if Ryan and the Republicans, instead of trying to appease the non-compromising Freedom Caucus, could try to reach out and work with moderate Democrats to draft and pass the bill?" Also we shared a NY Times article "A Great New Accidental Renaissance" (link) from Megan and this fantastic quote. "It’s early, but we may be experiencing a great awakening for the humane values that are under siege by a dark-side presidency. People are going inward, to find something bigger than Trump, and outward, to limit the damage he inflicts on the country."


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We're talking about the FISA process, Retired General Michael Flynn, and the failure of the American Health Care Act.

The Pearls

We comfort ourselves about our miserable election predictions by noting that we predicted that the American Health Care Act would not make it through the House of Representatives. And it didn't. Big winners: the American people for not being subjected to a half-baked, not-really-about-health-care-health-care-bill. Big losers: Paul Ryan, Donald Trump, Republicans generally.

Sadly, we have two incidents of violence to acknowledge. A British man, Khalid Masood, rammed his vehicle into a crowd at Westminster Bridge in London after stabbing a police officer. His connections to Saudi Arabia have police still investigating his possible motives. On Sunday morning, a dispute escalated into a shooting in a Cincinnati, Ohio, night club, leaving one person dead and 15 injured. Our prayers are with everyone impacted in London and Cincinnati.

For our compliments to the other party, Sarah tipped her hat to the Freedom Caucus for standing their ground in opposition to the AHCA. Beth complimented the Democratic lawmakers behind the Making Access Records Available to Lead American Government Openness Act (the MAR-A-LAGO Act), which would require the White House to publish its visitor logs and mandate the release of visitor logs when the President conducts business...elsewhere.

The Suit

We start with a mini-primer on the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act ("FISA"), which was enacted in 1978 to protect Americans’ privacy in the midst of counter-terrorism efforts. A law enforcement training white paper helped us significantly in understanding key provisions of FISA. FISA was enacted to limit the presidents' power and to create a judicially-manageable standard for issuing warrants in national security investigations.

The key provisions of FISA were:

  1. Non-criminal electronic surveillance can only occur for the purpose of collecting foreign intelligence and foreign counterintelligence
  2. Foreign powers and agents of foreign powers could be targeted for electronic surveillance (foreign powers and agents of foreign powers are defined in the statute—explicitly says “non US persons” — US persons are citizens, legal permanent residents, US corporations, unincorporated associates with a substantial number of members who are citizens or lawful permanent residents)
  3. The government needs probable cause to conduct surveillance (and set a probable cause standard)
  4. Established foreign intelligence surveillance courts (FISC) at the district and appellate...

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We began by encouraging everyone to share the #trypod hashtag. The idea is to introduce someone who doesn’t listen to podcasts to the medium. Show them how to do it and obviously subscribe them to Pantsuit Politics!

We began by discussing FBI Director James Comey's testimony before Congress confirming that the FBI is investigation whether or not President Trump’s campaign colluded with Russia to influence the election. We also discussed the AP's revelation that Paul Manafort, former Trump campaign manager, was paid millions by a Putin ally.

Karen on Twitter had a great read of the situation: Illegality all around T. He was likely influenced by ppl with specific agendas tailored to appeal to his world view and vanity and so he is influenced. Also think he probably willfully "ignorant" of crimes around him but I bet we will never be able to pin any intentional criminal activity on him.

We then shared Beth's interview with Katherine Gypson, reporter for Voice of America, who was in the room for both Comey's testimony and Representative Devin Nunnes's press conference.

We discussed Judge Gorsuch's confirmation hearings and growing concerns about his views on torture and statements about women at law firms. We also discussed the Democratic party's plans to filibuster his confirmation.

We moved on to talk about two abortion laws that recently passed in Texas and several pieces of feedback we've gotten related to abortion.

We talked about the proposed Reins Act and whether or not the Congress really needs approval over so much regulation. We wrapped up with feedback from Shannon on the difference between how we discuss terrorism when the terrorist is white.


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In the Pearls, we discussed President Trump's proposed budget. The big winners under this budget were the Departments of Defense and Homeland Security, as well as Veteran's Affairs. The biggest loser was the Environmental Protection Agency, as well as nineteen other agencies that Trump proposed elimination. Beth argued that this budget shows diplomacy is not a priority for President Trump as it also includes cuts to the State Department and reductions in foreign aid.

Inexplicably, healthcare companies such as drug makers and device makers will pay more than twice as much in 2018 to have their medical products reviewed for approval by the Food and Drug Administration under the proposed budget. The proposal budgets over $2 billion in fees to be collected from industry, twice as much in 2017. This doesn't seem to fit the increasingly loud narrative of reducing health care costs.

We then moved on to compliment the other side. Sarah had big praise two Texas Congressmen who hit the road for a bipartisan road trip. Beth praised Representative Rodney Moore for his eloquent advocacy for charter schools.

In the Suit, we discussed the fiery response on social media to Sarah's photo of a local church bulletin board featuring the viral photo of Omran Daqneesh, a 5-year-old Syrian child. The caption seems to imply all the little boy needs is Christianity in his life and this position left many of you angry and seemed to reflect a growing disenchantment with religion itself.

We discussed our own frustrations and history with organized religion and what those ideas can (and cannot) mean when it comes to politics. Do Americans suffer from an empathy deficit? What does it mean to be empathetic?

Sarah had high praise for Krista Tippet's expanded audio edition of Becoming Wise, which addresses the interplay between spirituality, religion, and politics incredibly well.

Beth discussed a wonderful Washington Post article that illustrated the difference in approach between empathy and entitlement in immigrants versus natural-born citizens. She also shared Anne Lamott's recent Facebook reflection.

As well as one of her favorite lines from The Invitation by Oriah Mountain dreamer which states simply, "I want to know if you can sit with pain, mine or your own, without moving to hide it, or fade it, or fix it."

We ended the show in The Heels by lightening things up a bit with talk of real estate and Designated Survivor.


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This week, Americans are squarely confronting the rights and responsibilities of our government, our citizens, and our fellow humans. With the travel ban, news from the intelligence community, and the AHCA, we’re asking what we exactly we do and do not owe to someone else’s babies.

The Travel Ban

A federal district judge in Hawaii enjoined enforcement of President Trump's revised executive order on immigration. We recap the decision:

The plaintiffs were seeking a nationwide temporary restraining order. They had to establish

  1. Standing (similar to state of Washington in 9th Circuit decision + tourism; the Court also held that an individual plaintiff had standing to challenge the order)
  2. Strong likelihood of success on the merits of the Establishment Clause claims

The Court extensively quoted statements from then-candidate Trump, Rudy Giuliani, and Stephen Miller regarding the intention of the executive order. "The Government has established a disfavored religion." The Court also found that the executive order does not achieve its stated national security objectives because citizenship, according to the DHS, is an "unlikely indicator" of terrorism threats.

Under the Lemon test, the Court held that the government could not show that the order has a primarily secular purpose. The Court also rejected the Government's claim that the executive order does not discriminate against Muslims because it does not apply to all countries with majority-Muslim populations, saying, “The notion that one can demonstrate animus toward any group of people only by targeting all of them at once is fundamentally flawed. The court declines to relegate its Establishment Clause analysis to a purely mathematical exercise."

The Court held that the plaintiffs would likely suffer irreparable harm without a temporary restraining order. Sarah fully agrees with the Court's analysis. Beth, while taking serious issue with the executive order, thinks the Court's analysis, particularly on standing, is very thin and problematic.

Other News

We discuss the Justice Department's indictment of two Russian spies and two criminal hackers in connection with the breach of 500 million Yahoo accounts in 2014, and we wonder how the administration will respond.

Senators Richard Burr and Mark Warner announced this week that there is no indication that the government surveilled Trump Tower before the election. Sean Spicer then told the press that a British intelligence agency, GCHQ, actually did the spying. GCHQ responded by saying that Spicer's allegations are "utterly ridiculous."

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Republicans have been saying "repeal and replace" for seven years. Today, we're talking about their proposal, the American Health Care Act, to repeal and replace the Affordable Care Act.

The Pearls (our quick discussions at important stories of the week)

Attorney General Jeff Sessions requested the resignation of 46 United States Attorneys this week. Though it is not unprecedented for new administrations to transition personnel in the Department of Justice, the Trump administration's approach seemed unnecessarily graceless. The U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York, Preet Bharara, was especially taken aback by the Trump administration's move, refused to resign, and was ultimately fired.

We also discussed two thought-provoking pieces on how we take in information. A recent study concluded that Breitbart dominated right-wing media during the 2016 election, creating an ecosystem of thought that altered the broader media agenda. We discuss our thoughts on Breitbart as a nationalist and populist outlet, rather than a conservative one, and on what we see as asymmetric polarization. In connection with exiting the echo chamber, Sarah recommended PolitEcho and Escape Your Bubble.

The second piece is a fascinating experiment in gender roles. An NYU professor recreated parts of the debates between Trump and Clinton using a woman actor to play Trump and a male actor to play Clinton. Aside from the gender swap, the language, gestures, and tones of voice exactly mimicked Trump and Clinton during the debates. The results surprised the NYU audiences, and we were surprised by our reactions.

As always, we took a moment to compliment the other party. Beth complimented Congresswoman Debbie Dingell for her measured comments on health care reform. Sarah complimented Rep. Jim Sensenbrenner for his willingness to hold town halls and address constituent concerns.

The Suit (our closer look at a single topic):

Following the November 2016 elections, Beth said that Republicans would have to step up and actually govern now because having an undivided government means there are no excuses. The American Health Care Act is Republicans' first real shot at actually governing, and we're not impressed.

First, we discuss the strategy of beginning the legislative agenda with health care when immigration or tax reform seem like more logical choices that would set the stage for health care reform. We also discuss the rushed, secretive process to create the bill and the hypocrisy in pushing...


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In preparation for Tuesday's podcast on the Republican health care proposal, Beth gives a quick overview of Medicaid and the American Health Care Act. 


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We discuss Noah Dyer - candidate for governor in Arizona - who posted a VERY transparent statement on his sex life on his website. Is total transparency something we want? Wikileaks certainly does. We discuss the trove of documents allegedly showing the CIA's cyber hacking capacity and technologies. We also discuss Assange's belief that total transparency is the goal. We follow up on some feedback from our Book Club discussion with Brynn who shared: I have tried SO. HARD. since the election to "reach across the aisle" and talk to people like this. But now, 120 days later, I am done. Do I condone physical or verbal aggression towards these people? Of course not. But if they are not willing to see that their views are truly HATEFUL then I don't know what else I can do. At this point I say we just press on without them if they aren't willing to abandon Radical Christian Extremism, embrace public education and accept facts as truth. Because there HAS to be some kind of line in the sand. We cannot keep making excuses for them or analyzing them like we're anthropologists forever. WE (all rational people of any political leaning) have to take a collective stand and tell them NO. We also discussed our listener Chiara's argument that maybe we do want the President to fail. Chiara wrote us, " I was thinking about how, on the latest episode, you said that you aren't rooting for Trump to fail because you have respect for the office of the president. That's actually something I've been thinking about a lot too...but for me, I'm starting to think that I AM rooting for him to fail...but for the same reason: because I respect the office of the presidency. The truth is, if Trump succeeds, it will inevitably send the message that it is entirely okay for the American people to elect a president who is racist, sexist, bigoted, possibly engaged in illegal activities, and not at all knowledgeable about government or world affairs. If Trump succeeds, people will see that if such a person is elected, everything will be fine. And I don't think that's okay. So I don't want that message to be sent, lest he get re-elected (or we end up with a similar president in the future). It's the same as with President Obama, at least if we're going entirely on identity. Even though I didn't agree with all of his policies, his successful presidency demonstrated that a black, feminist community organizer/constitutional lawyer could do the job relatively well. And I believe that is a great thing, and fundamental to his legacy." We also shared Amanda's thoughts on educated v. expert. "I wonder whether, when we're talking about the value of ideas, we shouldn't put a premium on expertise rather than education alone. They very often come hand in hand, but this leaves the door open for more people, allows more of us into the conversation. It allows both the economics professor and the lifelong welfare recipient to be heard because in different ways, they're both experts. When it comes to crafting policy, things get more complicated (this way of looking at expertise won't be of much use when it come, to dealing with global warming, for example), but I think it provides an okay framework for dealing with certain types of emotional arguments. Of course, this doesn't shed much light on the...


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We start the episode with a mini-Russian primer then attempt to work our way through the connections between Russia and the Trump campaign and administration.


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Sarah chats with Megan Hart, the founder of our Pantsuit Politics Book Club, to talk about the February book club pick, Strangers in Their Own Land: Anger and Mourning on the American Right by Arlie Russell Hochschild. They discuss Hochschild's trip deep into Tea Party country and what she learned about their "deep story".


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With Republicans controlling Congress and the White House, we focus on what Democrats can and should do to move forward before the midterms. 


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In today's episode of the Briefcase, we talk about the appointment of H.R. McMaster before discussing the town hall meetings taking place during the Congressional recess. We discuss the Affordable Care Act and the political climate surrounding it. We also talk about the Trump administration's decision to revoke the Obama administration's guidance on transgender restrooms in schools, the role of the judiciary and the legislature, and the cultural polarization around these issues. We end with listener feedback on our last episode and a message from Autumn about Trump's creation of an "in group" and "out group." 


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Today, we talk about a provocative New York Times essay, "Are Liberals Helping Trump?" But first, we continue our efforts to keep up with the chaotic pace of news. 


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We bemoan the chaotic state of the news and try to tackle the highlights from the past few days' headlines. We discuss President Trump's frequent (and expensive) trips to Mar-a-Lago. Beyond the conflicts of interest, watching members of the club post pictures during what seemingly was a security crisis bother us and many others. 

We also discuss National Security Council Advisor Mike Flynn's resignation and President Trump's inability to take contradictory advice. 


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First up, Trump and Kellyanne fight with Nordstrom. Trump earlier this week tweeted that "My daughter Ivanka has been treated so unfairly by @Nordstrom. She is a great person – always pushing me to do the right thing! Terrible!" (And it was retweeted by the official @POTUS account)

Then, Kellyanne stated on Fox & Friends: "Go buy Ivanka's stuff, is what I would tell you," Conway said. "It's a wonderful line. I own some of it. I fully -- I'm going to just, I'm going to give a free commercial here: Go buy it today, everybody. You can find it online."

The comments could run afoul of a federal law that bars public employees from making an "endorsement of any product, service or enterprise, or for the private gain of friends, relatives, or persons with whom the employee is affiliated in a nongovernmental capacity."

James Nuzzo, a legal scholar and founder of the Colchester Group consulting firm, took a closer look at President Trump's tweet and noticed something very important was missing: Specifics. All the tweet accuses Nordstrom of "doing" is being "very unfair," Nuzzo points out. Any lawsuit the company brings against Mr. Trump would have almost no chance of success. Moreover, the U.S. Supreme Court has made it clear that only factual misrepresentation, in other words specific lies — not opinion — would be considered libel or slander. And the tweet almost seems to have been crafted very wisely with that precedent in mind. Someone saying another person or company is "unfair" is almost the definition of an opinion as "fairness" cannot really be defined legally or otherwise. In short, don't expect President Trump to get a slap on the wrist or any other kind of slap from the courts over this.

Congress is a different matter. A much stronger argument could be made that Congress could officially censure President Trump for his conduct connected to the tweet against Nordstrom and several others like it that specifically attacked or demeaned businesses and individuals.

Plus, we ask Just how much trouble is Michael Flynn in? and talk about North Korea conducts ballistic missile test.

In the Suit, we talk about Washington v. Trump and do our best to summarize the decision.

  1. The procedural history of 9th Circuit decision:
  2. A. The state of Washington went to federal district court asking for a temporary restraining order (TRO). When a hearing happens, Washington wants a declaration that the order is illegal and unconstitutional and permanently enjoined from enforcement. (Minnesota jumped in as a plaintiff, too)The District Judge granted that TRO. The President asked the 9th circuit to stay the TRO. So, Washington said, “STOP enforcing this EO until a full hearing can happen.” The district court did. Then the President said to the circuit court “stop the district court’s order stopping my order until a full hearing can happen. And the 9th circuit said, “nope, we’re going with that restraining order.”
  3. Standing — cases and controversies — you can only bring a lawsuit if you have a particular and specific, non-theoretical injury that a court could actually redress. The states of Washington and Minnesota said that they were harmed because the EO kept people from coming to their public universities and the states are...

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Listeners Aaron and Sierra join Beth for a quick overview of executive power. 


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"Nevertheless, she persisted." Did Senator McConnell make a rare strategic mistake or was this all political theater? Was the raid on Yemen worth the cost?

We talk about that and more on today's Briefcase, as well as sharing Sarah's talk with Jay Carson - the conservative counterpart on The Politics Guys podcast.


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Is Steven Bannon really in charge? Does Congress want to pollute our streams? Does Donald Trump have it out for the judiciary branch? We check in with all three branches and talk to Jason Murray, a former law clerk for Supreme Court nominee Judge Neil Gorsuch.


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Sarah talks with Dr. Tamara Tweel, Director of Strategic Development for the Hillel International Office of Innovation, about how her involuntary miscarriage brought her before the Ohio state legislator discussing voluntary abortion. 


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Our executive producer Nicholas Holland and friend of the pod Annie Kratzsch help us process the chaos that ensued after President Trump's Executive Order on immigration and refugees. 


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We call our Friday episodes "The Briefcase." In each episode of the Briefcase, we cover listener feedback and news of the week. This week, we continue to talk about your thoughtful perspectives on the Women's March and reproductive rights. We also discuss the frenzy of news made by the White House this week as President Trump signs executive orders. 


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We decided that our word for 2017 is “forward”. Today, we’re exploring what exactly that means for all of us in the Trump era. We'll also talk about Sean Spicer and alternative facts, the Women's March, and what we’re personally looking forward to this year. 


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We got a report from the ground as Bryn and Loree marched on Washington!


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In our final episode of Season 2, we discuss your feedback on our mental health episode, the Trump inauguration, and the Women's March. 


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After discussing Rep. John Lewis's comments about President-elect Trump and our favorite speeches from Dr. Martin Luther King, Jr., we dive into a wide-ranging discussion of mental health in the United States. In the Heels, for some reason, we talk about our high school senior superlatives. 


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Thanks to our listener Debbie, we share background on mental health services in the United States. 


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We received SO much feedback about celebrities and abortions, and the news has been CRAZY. So, we do a lightning round of news and nuance in this episode of the Briefcase.

Show Notes:

The Pantsuit Politics Book Club

The Problem with Being Paternalistic about Disabilities

The Trump Press Conference

The GOP's SLOW Going on an ACA Replacement

Investigation of Ties to Russia

Sister Women's Marches


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The Kentucky legislature wasted no time getting to work. We discuss new anti-choice and right-to-work laws and, of course, the Golden Globes. 


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In this episode of The Briefcase, we discuss your contenders for our focal word of 2017, along with the Friday Feedback. 


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Happy New Year! In The Pearls, we discuss the Trump administration, the UN resolution on Israeli settlements, and tragic events around the world. We also compliment the other party before launching into a discussion of what it means to be a woman in the Trump era and what "resistance" means. We particularly dive into Madeleine Davies's piece, Becoming Ugly. In The Heels, we share our one-word focal points for 2017 and ask for your thoughts on a 2017 Pantsuit Politics word. 


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In part 2 of the Middle East primer series, Beth attempts to describe the decades-long conflict between Israelis and Palestinians in about 25 minutes. 


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We're sharing our Second Annual Wish List, which takes us from a new conservative party to mental health, climate change, education, and changing the way we think and communicate. Merry everything, and happy nuanced year! 


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With emotions still running high post-election, we talk about our reflections on critical listener feedback and what we think the promise of Pantsuit Politics should be in 2017. We also discuss the humanitarian crisis in Syria and a blog post written about Sarah's run for office. 


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We attempt to sort out what we're hearing about Russian interference during the election and how the electoral college should respond. In The Pearls, we applaud the bipartisan 21st Century Cures Act and discuss the tragic bombings in Istanbul, the continued assault on Aleppo, and the treatment of refugees in Papua New Guinea. In The Heels, we talk about our current non-political passions. 


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We take the Friday Feedback to a new level today in a conversation with Tamela Blalock on identity politics and race under a Trump administration. We know that the audio is difficult, and we appreciate your graciousness about that. We hope you enjoy this important and challenging conversation. 


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Today we're talking with John Gable, Founder and CEO of AllSides, a news service dedicated to solving polarization through bias ratings and civil dialogue. In the Pearls, we briefly discuss current events--the Dakota Access Pipeline, the Italian referendum, and the Austrian election--and questions surrounding Betsy DeVos's faith. In the Heels, we discuss Sarah's love of movies. 


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In this episode of the Briefcase, we discuss three articles that circle around the idea of a new center in American politics. 


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Today, we talk about what we learned from the #exittheechochamber challenge and somehow end up dissecting the uselessness of cable news. In the Pearls, we talk about Jill Stein's efforts to recount votes in three states, Trump's latest cabinet appointments, the delay of new overtime regulations, and Fidel Castro's death. Finally, in the Heels, we happily kick off the holiday season.


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We're here with Rebecca Wyhoff - co-creater Local Elections 101 - Campaign Essentials in 60 Minutes - Local Elections 101 is a guide for how to win a local election. You can get election advice without hiring a consultant or reading a library of books. The course is presented in a fast-paced, fun video format and would be a great solution for so many of you looking to get involved in local politics!


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We're about halfway through the #exittheechochamber challenge and just a few appointments into the Trump cabinet. We are talking about both plus Sarah's thoughts on The Crown in today's episode. 


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We're excited to launch our #exittheechochamber seven day challenge. For the next seven days, we're asking you to look beyond your own perspective by: 

Day 1 - Taking a selfie explaining why you want to exit the echo chamber 

Day 2 - Read three articles from news sources you don't usually read

Day 3 - Have a conversation in real life with someone who voted differently than you

Day 4 - Send a letter or email to someone you've disagreed with politically

Day 5 - Compliment the other side 

Day 6 - Draw an empathy map for someone in another political party 

Day 7 - Take action


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Recognizing that we are all in different places post-election, we talk about ways to move forward. In The Pearls, we discuss the Bannon and Preibus appointments and discussions percolating on the electoral college. In The Heels, we chat about Thanksgiving coming up. 


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We talk about President Obama and President-elect Trump's meeting in the White House. Voters dissatisfaction with the system and what sanitation has to do with the election. Plus, we talk about what the Democratic party got wrong and our upcoming Exit the Echo Chamber challenge.

We also welcome our new sponsor Make Room.


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We recorded our first conversation post-election results and are sharing with you as we all process things together. 


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We made it, America! Get out there and vote, and while you're doing that, try not to take responsibility for how other people feel about this election. 


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Down to the wire: We're talking about the FBI's latest report, Jill Filipovic's controversial essay "The Men Feminists Left Behind," and more on reconciliation.


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We're closing in on Election Day, and early voting is winding down. We talk about efforts to get out the vote, international affairs, and an interesting development in Sarah's race. 


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Three days before the election, the media, governmental agencies, and politicians seem intent on undermining the public trust. We discuss verdicts in the Bridgegate and Rolling Stone cases as well as Rudy Giuliani's ill-advised insinuations regarding the FBI. 


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Four days from Election Day, we're asking whether it's worth talking politics with friends and family and how reconciliation can begin on November 9. 


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We celebrate our birthday (can you believe it?!?!) and talk about the "tightening" polls, momentum, and news cycles with five days until Election Day. 


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With six days to go, we talk about important Senate races, the Trump effect in the Republican Party, and the commoditization of "nasty women" and "deplorables." 


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With one week to go before the election, there's plenty to discuss. In this episode, we kick off a week of daily podcasts. We're talking Wikileaks, the FBI, and our predictions. 


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In today's special episode, Beth moderates a debate between Robin Laverne Wilson (Green Party) and Alex Merced (Libertarian party), candidates for U.S. Senator from the State of New York.

Thank you for your patience with the audio -- we recognize it's not perfect, but we love the content and hope that you will, too.

Show Notes:

Alex Merced - Website

Robin Laverne Wilson - Website


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Anne Bogel of Modern Mrs Darcy and What Should I Read Next has suggestions for our fans for political fiction and other great reads!


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Sarah gives a campaign update and we address tough political conversations we've had with other adults, before turning to how we handle these conversations with our kids. During one of the most polarizing presidential elections in an already polarized time, how do we talk to our kids about the news, our political values, and what the heck the electoral college does. Plus, we talk about our new favorite Facebook group.


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We're bringing you an early edition of the Briefcase and a late night conversation following the third and final presidential debate. 


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We gave our best efforts to focus The Pearls on non-election events (by focusing on the FBI's thwarting of a bombing in Kansas, violence in Baghdad, a gun manufacturer liability ruling, and the Wells Fargo fallout). But, the 2016 race pulled us back in. In The Suit, we talk about the role of the Supreme Court today and how Trump and Clinton might approach the court. Finally, in The Heels, we talk about much-needed self-care during the election season.

Show Notes:

Ideological Leanings of SCOTUS Justices

The October Term

Heritage on Important Cases in the 2016-2017 Term

FiveThirtyEight: Two Candidates Promise an Extreme Court

The HRC Short List

The DJT Short List

Judicial Politics


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Spend 20 minutes with Beth brushing up on the authority, composition, and cases pending before the Supreme Court in advance of Tuesday's episode. 


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We catch up on the latest round of upsetting campaign news and share incredibly insightful feedback from our listeners on flawed women, the patriarchy, and Columbia's peace deal. 


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We discuss the Trump Tapes and the fallout within the GOP and beyond. We also offer up our instant analysis on Sunday night's Town Hall Debate and the ugliness before, during, and after. Also, on a lighter note, Sarah shares about her vacation and outrunning Hurricane Matthew.


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In this special episode, Beth interviews libertarian candidate for U.S. Senate (New York) Alex Merced. Alex talks about his background, why he's a libertarian, the current presidential and his positions on a "lightening round" of issues.

Here's what you should know about Alex:

Name: Alex Merced - Libertarian Party US Senate Candidate (NY)

Age: 31

Married to wife for 2 years (together for 7 years)

Profession: Corporate Trainer in Financial Industry, former retail store owner (Gamers Lounge in Bowling Green, oh), Podcaster/blogger, event promoter, social media consultant

Education: BA from Bowling Green State University

If Elected Would Be...

  • Youngest Serving US Senator (dethroning Tom Cotton)

  • First Puerto Rican or Guatemalan Elected US Senate

  • First Libertarian Elected to US Senate

Main issues:

  • Rolling Back Regime Change to reduce new

Instability abroad

  • Ending the drug war and the overcriminalization and violence that comes with it

  • Increasing families disposable incomes and ability to save with tax reforms and reforming the policy drivers of inflation in healthcare, housing and education

  • increasing visibility of Transgender issues and using the pulpit to bring attention to suicide, homelessness, and structural unemployment within the transgender community (have very close transgender issues, so this is more a personal thing than a policy issue)

Economic Policy Proposals:

  • Rainy Day Account: rolling IRAs, HSAs, Coverdells into one tax favored savings account for all of life's events such as Unemployment, education, retirement, healthcare, parental leave, etc.

  • The America Corp: a new corporate designation with 0% corporate tax rate but requires all assets and employees be in the US and that employees vote for one member of the board of directors to give labor more of a seat in corporate governance.

  • 20% flat tax: instead of a complex tax code and complex web of aid programs, have a 20% flat tax with a refundable tax credit that will provide aid to anyone for anything. The amount of the tax credit amount changes with age (25k 18-26,65+ - 10k 27-64)

Interesting facts:

  • Son of a immigrant from Guatemala in which regime change created instability in the 1950s which led to decades of civil wars and dictators and has contributed to the frustrations over the border (stability abroad effects border security, so regime change is very much against the countries national interests)

  • parents are divorced so mainly raised by mother who after divorced lived in poverty working multiple part time jobs, going to school, raising two kids but worked her way to the middle class by the time I was 18 and has been my inspiration for my belief that anything is possible with hard work and determination

  • grew up in suburban CT, went to school in Rural Ohio, and has lived in urban NYC so has experience the different setting Americans live in


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While Sarah wraps up her family vacation, Beth brings you a special interview with former Congressman and Executive Director of republicEN.org Bob Inglis. Bob is a "climate realist and energy optimist." Hear his story of learning about the realities of climate change and advocating for conservative solutions. Bob also gives his take on the current election and the future of the Republican party.

Show Notes:

republicEN.org

Bob talks with Chris Hayes about the 2017 race

Clip of Bob from Merchants of Doubt

Clip of Bob from YEARS of Living Dangerously

A Carbon Tax is a Conservative Solution to Climate Change

Bob Inglis Rallies GOP on Climate Change, One Lawmaker at a Time


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In the wake of Congress passing, overriding President Obama's veto on, and then regretting the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, we're examining the roles of our representatives. In 2016, should our leaders act as trustees, exercising independent judgment, or delegates, conforming to the will of the populace? But first, we talk about Colombian voters' rejection of the FARC peace agreement, the continued violence and breakdown of diplomacy in Syria, and, of course, Donald Trump's taxes. We end on a much lighter note: Sarah's trip to Disney World. Can you help her family find a better trip hashtag? 

Show Notes:

Colombian Voters Reject FARC Peace Deal

Diplomacy Breakdown in Syria

Donald Trump's Taxes

International Lawyers: Don't Let Americans Sue Saudi Arabia

The Consequences of JASTA

Congress Somehow Blames President Obama for JASTA

The Unbelievable Idiocy of Congress

Trustees vs. Delegates

Majority Vote Rules: Advocating for the Delegate Model

The Reality of Modern Representation

Was Obama vs. Romney a Trustee vs. Delegate Contest?

Trustee vs. Delegate: A False Binary?


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We talk further about the debate - both about our thoughts and your feedback. We also discuss the gendered politics of interrupting and share a listener voice mail.


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Sarah shares her insight from Vox Conversations. Beth shares her insight from a leadership retreat. Both Sarah and Beth share their (exhausted) insight from the first presidential debate.


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Hey y'all, for this week's episode of The Briefcase we're putting Friday Feedback on hold to bring you a special interview on asking big questions and universal basic income from Sarah's weeklong trip to the Vox Conversations conference in Washington D.C. 


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In case you can't get enough Pantsuit Politics, we're giving you an extended version of The Great Redhead Debate, complete with commentary from Sarah, Beth, and Dante. 


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In this episode, we imagine a world in which Sarah is the Democrat's nominee and Beth is the Republican's nominee. Spoiler alert: it's a far cry from what we anticipate seeing on the real debate stage. 


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In this episode of the Briefcase, we discuss what listeners are teaching us about gender and race in our conversations. 

Since Dante isn't on the episode for this discussion, we wanted to share his sentiments: 

I'm so glad my presence on the show inspired people to reach out to us, both in positive and critical ways. It's helped reaffirm that this show is and will always be about our listeners. I know this because until very recently I was one, and I know how much this show means to me and all of us. I've always learned from our community and will continue to do so to make this the best show it can possibly be. Y'all, never stop bringing that passion because as soon as that stops we've got a much bigger problem than a man crashing the Pantsuit Politics party. Smooches. - Dante.


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Peter Drucker famously said that "culture eats strategy for breakfast." We take a look at the role of culture in this election season by discussing Hillary Clinton's "basket of deplorables" comments and sharing our interview with Nikki Johnson-Huston, attorney, advocate, and the author of "The Culture of the Smug White Liberal." We also briefly cover the cease-fire in Syria, how September 11 influences our generation, and the "life-changing" power of paring things down. 


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Dante and Beth have a late night chat about the Commander in Chief forum, including Trump's response on veteran's health issues and Clinton's strong statement on ground troops in Iraq and Syria. 


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We have an exciting announcement about an upcoming Pantsuit Politics special event! Plus, we talk about the commander-in-chief candidate forums, Gary Johnson and Aleppo, and the settlement and apology Fox News offered Gretchen Carlson.


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After starting the show with world political news including our new agreement with China and Brazil's impeachment, we tackle immigration. We attempt to define the problem, discuss the emotion of immigration, and seek a path forward. As Labor Day weekend comes to a close, we also share some sadness (and gladness) at the end of summer.


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On Tuesday's episode, we'll talk about immigration. We find that the opinions about immigration are often unaccompanied by actual facts, so we're giving you a 20 minute overview in advance of our discussion on what's working and what's not working. 


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In this episode of the Briefcase, we discuss the week's controversies -- from Colin Kaepernick to Chris Christie's veto of the New Jersey minimum wage law. We also cover the Balanced Rebellion video and your feedback on our term limits discussion. We are so excited to introduce our new Chief Creative Officer, Dante Lima! 


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In this episode, we discuss Congressional term limits. What problems would they solve? What problems would they create? And where do they belong on the #crazymoderate agenda? First, in the Pearls, we get excited (or maybe "prepared" is a better word) for the upcoming Presidential debates, cover the United Nations report on violence in Syria, and, as always, offer our compliments to the other party. Finally, in the Heels, we discuss the best things we've eaten lately. 


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In this week's Briefcase, we discuss natural disasters and how best to respond, the latest from Donald and Hillary, and the new way we're showcasing our awesome community. 


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We talk about the conspiracy of concerns over Hillary's health and the Trump campaign's reorganization. We also discuss Omran - the little Syrian boy who's image shook up the world. The focus of today's episode is our current welfare system and how do we want to help those left behind by today's modern economy. We wrap up with a quick discussion on the power (and burden) of Pinterest. 9kr2qrjc


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Today, we share the gracious feedback from our listeners on what Pantsuit Politics means to them and cover questions and feedback on education, consumption taxes, foreign policy, and ethics. 


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From The Aid to Dependent Children to the current Temporary Assistance for Needy Families, our welfare system has come in many different versions and forms. What does the history of welfare tells us about its purpose and whether or not we are currently fulfilling it?


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After briefly reviewing the weeks' major economic policy speeches from Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump, we dive into a discussion of whether and to what extent ethics in politics still matter. Should politicians be judged by voters on the ways they use power, or should we, as Sarah likes to say, stop hating the players and hate the game? We talk about ethical judgments of Hillary Clinton, Donald Trump, and third parties. In The Heels, we talk about our newfound interests in bullet journaling. 


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We tackle feedback that Beth is leaving the GOP unrepresented in our discussions and we're both no experts on Olympic coverage if we're not watching the Olympics. We also discuss the new Anti-Trump conservative Evan McMullin and his entry into the 2016 presidential race.


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White males without a college degree are Donald Trump's strongest demographic. With ugly media portrayals of unfiltered racism and misogyny at Trump rallies, we ask if there is any nuance to be found amongst this white male resentment. We also discuss the Olympics in The Pearls and Beth's vacation and back-to-school in The Heels. 


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We're all growing weary of the Presidential campaign. Inspired by our listener, Andrew, we spend most of today's episode on hopeful stories. From moderate victories in Kansas to bipartisan legislation in Congress and in Massachusetts, there are reasons for optimism. We also discuss a question from Amanda on how effective it would be to volunteer with the Clinton campaign and share more about Dante Lima, the talent behind our new music. 


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In our first episode of Season 2, we answer your questions about polls, third parties, debates, and talking about the elections in schools. We also share our experience "floating" in Philadelphia.


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We share our thoughts on the week live from the final night of the Democratic National Convention.


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Happy birthday to Sarah! We share our thoughts about Wednesday at the DNC during breakfast! 


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Live from Philadelphia, we bring you our thoughts and observations on the first two days of the DNC. 


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In part II, we share some of our post-convention discussion from our late-night drive home as well as a few reflections on Peter Theil, Ivanka Trump, and the state of the GOP. 


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We spent 23 hours together checking out the Republican National Convention. In Part I of II, we share the story of that very long day. 


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Donald Trump has chosen Mike Pence as his running mate and we address the safety concerns being raised in Cleveland. We also try to absorb difficult news from Nice, Turkey, and Baton Rouge. What is the "mature response"? What does domestic abuse have to mass violence? And why is Sarah quoting Roger Ebert's review of Crash?


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In this episode of The Briefcase, we discuss the gap between Bernie Sanders and Hillary Clinton supporters; the gap between public and private perceptions of Hillary Clinton; the gap between Donald Trump and some potential Republican voters; and the gap between the judiciary and the public. 


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We continue the fascinating with discussion with Fred Davis. In this episode, he talks about working with politicians who aren't natural "rockstars," how he started in and why he loves political advertising, and where the 2016 election could take us. 


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Fred Davis, legendary Republican media strategist, joins us for an honest conversation about political advertising. Fred discusses working with the Kasich Super PAC, the 2016 primary, and some of his greatest ads. 


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The morning after the tragic events in Dallas we struggle with how to move forward in the face of anxiety and fear. 


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Since we are together in Chicago for Podcast Movement and the news keeps happening, we shared some quick thoughts on the Clinton email investigation and the tragic death of Alton Sterling. You can view the video on our Facebook page. 


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We're speaking at Podcast Movement in Chicago this week, so we are thrilled to have two great interviews to share with you. In this episode, we talk with Erin Miller about her amazing journey to have her grandmother, Elaine Danforth Harmon, buried at Arlington National Cemetary. Harmon, a Women Airforce Service Pilot during World War II, wanted her service recognized as it would have been if she were a man. Erin and her family organized and advocated, leading to the unanimous passage of a bill that allows WASPs to be buried at Arlington. We are inspired by Erin's action and honored to share her story.

In The Pearls, Beth shares her essay, Humanity First, on terrorism following the harrowing attacks in Bangladesh and Iraq this week. Finally, in the Heels, we reflect on Independence Day and the privilege and responsibility of participating in a democracy.


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Sometimes a nuanced take on issues means admitting that you don't have easy solutions, fully formed opinions, or satisfying answers. In this episode, we discuss our thoughts and questions about the Istanbul attack, the Benghazi reports, Brexit, and the Dump Trump movement. 


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The sit-in is over (and there is no bill and indeed a break), Donald Trump is introducing conversations on faith into the race, and George Will is no longer a Republican. As if that's not enough, the UK voted to leave the European Union. We talk about it all and what it means for our politics and our polling here in the States. In The Heels, we talk about summer movies, the trailer for Hillary Clinton's America, and what is happening in our national political dialogue. 


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We recorded before the shocking news from Britain and we could still barely keep up. We talk about recent Supreme Court decisions affecting affirmative action and President Obama's immigration plans, as well as the verdict in the Freddie Gray case and #NoBillNoBreak. 


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We're feeling bogged down by the current headlines and decided to turn to something different - if not exactly uplifting. After discussing several international headlines in the Pearls, we're turning our attention to the growing movement to decriminalize prostitution. In the Heels, Sarah shares her thoughts (but not spoilers!) on Season 4 of Orange Is The New Black. 


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In this episode, we discuss the aftermath of the Orlando tragedy, Chris Murphy's filibuster, and efforts to enact stricter gun laws. We also discuss how Donald Trump seems to be sabotaging himself. 

Show Notes: 

Our Episode on Guns 

Sarah's Hopelessness 

Filibuster 

Trump Boosted, Clinton Hurt By Coverage


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Pantsuit Politics Family: We recorded this episode early Sunday morning before much was known about the tragedy at Pulse in Orlando. We will attempt to discuss more about the complexities of this act of terror, hate crime, and mass shooting at another time. For now, our hearts are with every person impacted.

We are emotionally drained this week. In the Pearls, Sarah gets to celebrate the nomination of Hillary Clinton and President Obama's and Elizabeth Warren's endorsements. We then sadly turn our attention to violence in Tel Aviv and Orlando. We applaud the bravery of two Texas valedictorians who used their platforms to discuss our broken immigration system. Then, in The Suit, we discuss the Stanford case as a starting point for talking about rape culture and how we move forward. Finally, in The Heels, we talk about Made in America and how our lives are becoming history.

Show Notes:

Hillary Clinton's Nomination

The Obama and Warren Endorsements

A Victory for the Women's Movement vs. A Victory for Women

The Tel Aviv Attack

Status of Tel Aviv Victims

Texas Valedictorian Addresses Immigration

A Huge Myth About Rape on College Campuses

What the Stanford Rape Case Can Teach our Sons

What the Stanford Rape Case Tells Us About Rape Culture

Disappointed and Not Surprised

The Stanford Victim's Letter

Joe Biden's Response

Video: Victim-Blaming Makes No Sense

Made in America


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With the news that Paul Ryan has endorsed Donald Trump, Beth and Sarah struggle with the acceptance of Donald Trump as a "regular" nominee. We also talk about the UCLA shooting and Trump University. We also spend The Heels talking about our favorite concerts!


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In this episode of the Briefcase, we try to bring a little nuance and a whole lot of grace to the Clintons and the Cincinnati Zoo incident. We also talk about the idea that "a vote for a third party is a vote for Hillary Clinton." Spoiler alert: Beth strongly disagrees. 

Show Notes: 

Shaming is Easy; Mourning Is Hard

Did it Have to Be So Hard? 

Sarah's Been Cheated On

Don't Fall For the Lesser of Two Evils


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Inspired by a message from our listener, Lindsay, this episode tackles how to talk through political disagreement. Beth discusses the importance of engagement and some tips for hearing and understanding others in The Suit. First, in the Pearls, Beth talks about the Libertarian Party's convention, the State Department IG report on Hillary Clinton's emails, Memorial Day, and President Obama's historic visit to Hiroshima. In the Heels, Beth talks about her new obsession with Alone on The History Channel. Since Sarah is enjoying some family time this week, we conclude with an interview with Chris Chidzick, a PredictIt data analyst on how political prediction markets work. 


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In this episode of the Briefcase, we tackle some of the more provocative subjects we've discussed lately. We start by discussing feedback on our birth episode from Michael and Ashley. Then, we discuss your reactions to our "Double the Partisans" episode, which takes us into a discussion of Hillary Clinton's "likeability," as prompted by David Brooks. 


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With Memorial Day around the corner, we invited some friends to the Pantsuit Politics virtual kitchen table. Our friends Loree (a Democrat, who briefly felt the Bern but now is #WithHer) and Stephen (a #NeverTrump Republican) join the discussion in the Suit. We talk about the likely nominees for both parties and how the general election might shake out. In the Pearls, we discuss the tragic Egyptian Air crash and Congress's failure to pass a budget, and we wrap things up by talking about our disdain for swimsuits. 


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The Democratic Party seems far from unifying after a contentious Nevada state party convention. Donald Trump seems to have a long and complicated history with sexist behavior. Oklahoma seems to have forgotten a little decision called Roe v. Wade. 

But on a positive note... it also seems Sarah is on her way to becoming the next Paducah City Commissioner!

Also, Walk With Us: How The West Wing Changed Our Lives is FINALLY here! Get your copy today!


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Today, we talk about liberal intolerance on campus and inspiring remarks from Loretta Lynch and President Obama. We also discuss our tendency to lose our nuance about social conservatism and commit to do better. 

Don't forget to order your copy of Walk With Us: How the West Wing Changed Our Lives by Claire Handscombe! 

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In this episode, Sarah and Beth talk about the Detroit sickouts, Hillary Clinton's discussions around coal in West Virginia, and the Illinois race between Mark Kirk and Tammy Duckworth. In The Suit, we talk about the Affordable Care Act -- what it gets right, what it gets wrong, and where we go from here. Finally, in the Heels, we recap our Mother's Day weekends. 


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We spend this episode of the Briefcase confronting the reality of a Donald Trump vs. Hillary Clinton general election following the Indiana primary. Thanks to Brett and Bryn for feedback that contributed to our discussion and to all of you have provided comments on the Affordable Care Act in advance of Tuesday's episode. Reminder that you can also leave us a voice message by calling 859-568-2330. 

We're excited to welcome our second new sponsor. We all love The West Wing at Pantsuit Politics, so we can't wait to read Claire Handscombe's new book, Walk With Us: How The West Wing Changed Our Lives, which will be available beginning May 14! 


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On Tuesday, we're talking about the Affordable Care Act -- what it gets right, what it gets wrong, and where to go from here. In advance, Beth takes a whirlwind tour through the 2,700-page law. If you aren't familiar with insurance, the exchanges, and the myriad initiatives contemplated in the ACA, hopefully this 18-minute summary will get you started. 


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Inspired by our listenersSierra and Michael, we set out in this episode to truly test ournuance. In the Suit, we talk about the five remaining candidatesfor president -- Clinton, Sanders, Cruz, Kasich, and Trump -- andprovide our thoughts on the pros and cons of their candidacies. Itwasn't an easy task, but we stepped up to the plate. 

In the Pearls, we discussMaryland down-ballot races, the upcoming Indiana primary, andChina's refusal to allow a U.S. ship to dock in Hong Kong. Finally,in the Heels, we talk about the enneagram. 

This month, Pictli is sponsoring ourepisodes. We're excited about this partnership because of theprogramming it will allow us to provide. Check out Pictli for awesome framedgifts that are a touch on your iPhone away. 


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We share Friday Feedback about our Election Reform issue. Then, we dive into Cruz/Fiorina, HBO's Confirmation and Governor Matt Bevin's recent actions. 


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In this episode, we briefly take a look at the McCain and Ayotte Senate races before diving into Election Reform. We talk about first-past-the-post voting in the primaries and the general election, the primary calendar, and the electoral college. And, of course, no discussion of election reform is complete without a little campaign finance (spoiler: we almost subtitled this episode, "Beth Says Unpopular Things") and gerrymandering conversation. In The Heels, in honor of National Poetry Month, we share two of our favorites. 

We always love your feedback, and now there's a new way to contact us. Leave a message at 859-268-2330 to make an appearance in the Friday feedback section of the Briefcase.  


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A nuanced perspective requires you to see all sides of a topic or person. In this episode of the Briefcase, after discussing some Friday Feedback on the wage gap, we discuss President Obama's achievements and shortcomings.


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Beth is back with a Pantsuit Primer on party primaries, elections, and campaign finance in preparation for Tuesday's episode.


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Today we're talking to the writer, producer, and director of Raising Ms. President Kiley Lane Parker. Kiley joined us for the whole show and shared insight and advice about female leadership. In the Pearls, we followed up on Beth's solo Briefcase and issues surrounding paid family leave. In the Suit, we discussed the film and the challenges women considering public office face. In the Pearls, Kiley shared her current projects and how you can see Raising Ms. President. 


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In today's Briefcase, Beth discusses Friday feedback from Kaitlyn and Bryn on the presidential nomination processes, takes a look at Donald Trump's new Wall Street Journal op-ed, and spends some soapbox time on parental leave and Equal Pay Day. We hope Sarah will feel better soon so that we'll be fully balanced for our Tuesday episode.


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We're so excited to share our interview with Sellus Wilder, who is seeking the Democrat's nomination to the United States Senate in Kentucky. He's a Pantsuit Politics kind of candidate--he's campaigning with his entire heart, fueled by his desire to have an honest conversation with voters about making our state and our nation healthier. 

In the Pearls, we discuss the presidential race with a focus on process. While we have frustrations with the current process from different angles, our common ground is this--we all have to get involved! Finally, in the Heels, we chat about our fun weekends in Gatlinburg (Sarah) and Cincinnati (Beth). You might need a corn fritter or steak after listening. 


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We received so many insightful listener questions this week about barriers--from national and religious borders to barriers to voting with our dollars. We talk about trade, immigration, and Brussels. We also answer one of our favorite listener questions ever: "Was Dwight Eisenhower a #crazymoderate?" 


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Anti-globalization sentiments underlie some of the populism shaping this presidential cycle. In this episode, we discuss trade and the absence of nuance in trade discussions (Note: if you're brand new to discussing trade, you might like to check out our bonus episode: Pantsuit Primer). In The Pearls, we talk about a few key senate races in 2016, the nuclear summit, and the release of the #PanamaPapers. Finally, we return to our very strong feelings about dessert. 


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In this bonus episode, Beth provides a very brief and basic overview of trade in preparation for our discussion of trade on Tuesday-- the language used in trade discussions, NAFTA, the TPP, and considerations for listeners in evaluating politicians and forming their opinions about trade agreements. 


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The hits just keep coming. On this episode of The Briefcase, we spend a few brief and lovely moments on feedback from our brilliant listeners before turning to more awfulness from the news cycles - specifically the Trump campaign. 


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Sarah and Beth dive into the controversial waters of so-called religious liberty laws. We talk about the impact, purpose, and social consequences of these laws, and we talk a little about our own spiritual perspectives on these issues. In the Pearls, we discuss Bernie Sanders' big victories in Washington, Alaska, and Hawaii as well as the devastating attacks in Belgium and Pakistan. We wrap up with the most intense discussion of Easter candy you'll find in podcasting. 


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This week was BRUTAL. After reviewing some fantastic Friday Feedback, we give the week of March 21 a much-needed do-over. We discuss how US politicians SHOULD have handled the Flint hearings, the Brussels attack, the candidate-spouse-twitter-feud, and the western primaries. 


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This week, Jimmy Williams (host of Decode DC) joins us to discuss strange happenings in politics. We talk about the embarrassing congressional hearings on the Flint water crisis, President Obama's visit to Cuba, and, of course, the 2016 presidential race (yes, we spend some time on Ivanka's dad. Sigh.). Finally, in the Heels, we talk about our favorite West Wing characters, because we needed to end on a happy note. 


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In this episode of The Briefcase, we share some very touching messages from listeners about the election and the rhetoric associated with the election. We also discuss President Obama's SCOTUS nominee and the bizarre refusal of Senate Republicans to advise and consent. We recap the results from Tuesday's primaries, and we weigh on the criticism of Hillary Clinton's, ahem, demeanor during her post-sweep speech. Finally, we take a moment to reflect on our interview with Rebecca Traister. 


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Today, the amazing Rebecca Traister joins us to discuss her new book, the influence of single women on the political landscape, and feminism and politics. First, in The Pearls, we discuss violence at Ivanka's Dad's events and the state of the race. We end on a light note--talking about things we are looking forward to!


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We cover these topics plus your (always amazing) Friday feedback, which ranges from the distinction between being pro-market and pro-business, the Catholic Church, the impact of technology on the parties, and white working-class nostalgia. 


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Since we've been arriving at the conclusion that Beth needs to start her own party, we explore what that might look like today in the Suit. But first, we recap another bizarre week in politics-- from Super Tuesday to Super Saturday and everything in between. We discuss Mitt Romney's speech, Chris Christie's New Jersey press conference, and that disastrous GOP Debate. Finally, in the Heels, we take our first "ask me anything" question and reveal our dream tickets. 


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In this episode, we discuss Friday Feedback (as always!), reflect on the state of the race post-Super Tuesday, and then turn our attention to the Supreme Court's hearing on Texas's anti-choice laws. We also discuss the recent elections in Iran and the continuing world crisis resulting from Syria's civil war. Finally, we express concern about gun violence in a Middletown, Ohio, school. We never want to be numb to these incidents. 


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Since the presidential election keeps setting record levels of crazy, there is a lot to talk about in the episode. We do our best to cover it all-- from the Democratic primary in South Carolina to the train wreck GOP debate to Chris Christie's more trainwreck-esque endorsement to expectations going into Super Tuesday. We also revoke the benefit of the doubt we previously gave to Rick Snyder, and we discuss the tragic shootings in Kansas and Michigan. In a segment we called "WTF MSNBC," we ask WHAT is up with Rick Tyler's hiring and Melissa Harris Perry's departure.  In the Suit, we discuss the populism, frustration, and authoritarian forces in this race. We try to regain some nuance about the Sanders and Trump movements. But, in the Heels, we Photo Credit: juha-pekka via Compfight cc where we totally lose our nuance---outside of politics. 


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In this episode of The Briefcase, we discuss Friday Feedback from so many listeners: Vielka, Bryn, Rachel, and Obie on college and school dress codes; Katie on Hillary Clinton and women in leadership; and Megan on the Oregon standoff. Additionally, we promise to devote Tuesday's episode to populism, Trump, and Sanders based on a series of topics from Nickie. 

Additionally, we discuss the "hot mic" audio from a Donald Trump interview with Joe Scarborough and Mika Brezenski. Our listener Kedar flagged this for us, and it led to so many questions: In this media environment, what are the rules? What are journalists? And, what are we? 


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Obviously, we have to talk about the Nevada Democratic caucus and the crazy South Carolina Republican primary. We take a moment to lament Jeb Bush's exit from the campaign, and we discuss the state of the race going forward. We've been disappointed that education has barely been a side note in the presidential race, so devote The Suit to our thoughts on education reform. Finally, we talk Oscar nominations in The Heels. 


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On this episode of The Briefcase, we give a giant shoutout and thank you to Jacquie, Caitlin, and Sharon for supporting Pantsuit Politics. We received a ton of great feedback this week and appreciate every email, tweet, and Facebook message. We briefly discuss Lou's feedback on asymmetric polarization and the Supreme Court. At Loree's request, we talk about Jeb's "America" photo. We lament Nikki Haley's endorsement of Marco Rubio and the state of the Republican horserace. Finally, thanks to listener Michael, we consider identity politics and how much it should matter, if at all, that Hillary Clinton would be the first woman to be president.


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Our listener Susan inspired the title of this episode. We recap two crazy debates and the even crazier (and, let’s be honest, inappropriate) reactions to Justice Scalia’s death and the process to nominate his successor. In the Suit (inspired by our listener Bailey) we discuss why we affiliate with our respective parties and what we think becomes of the parties after the 2016 race. Finally, in the Heels, we talk about the women in political media who inspire us. 


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In this edition of The Briefcase, we share some of our brilliant listener insight and talk about how we got to a place where someone who isn't a Republican and someone who isn't a Democrat won the party primaries in New Hampshire. 


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In this crazy-special episode, we interview Mark McKinnon, co-executive producer, co-creator, and co-host of Showtime’s The Circus: Inside the Greatest Political Show on Earth. Mark shares perspective from three decades of political experience, talks with us about The Circus, and generally inspires us to step up in the political arena. Also, we recap the GOP Debate, discuss controversial comments from Madeleine Albright and Gloria Steinem, and offer our New Hampshire predictions. Finally, in The Heels, it’s all Beyoncé. Fasten your seatbelts--there’s a lot of nuance coming your way.


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In this week's Briefcase, Sarah and Beth attempt to recapture our nuance by responding to listener feedback about Bernie Sanders. Not gonna lie: we're still struggling to have a nuanced perspective on Ted Cruz. We share some thoughts on the Iowa Caucuses, the Democratic Town Hall, and the upcoming New Hampshire Primary. 


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This week, Sarah makes a BIG announcement, and we discuss our personal political journeys.


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Amazing listeners--from Bryan to Diane to Dante to Vielka and so many more--gave us plenty to discuss in this week's Briefcase. We start a conversation on emergency management of cities in crisis and promise much more on that front. Beth promises not to vote for Donald Trump, and we get ever-so-slightly incredulous about The Megyn Kelly issues. We have been saying since the beginning that this race would force a conversation about women in leadership positions, and, well, we weren't wrong. 


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In this episode, we are so excited to be joined by Kristen Soltis Anderson, author of The Selfie Vote: Where Millennials Are Leading America (And How Republicans Can Keep Up), columnist for The Washington Examiner, and co-founder of Echelon Insights. Kristen talks polls and the state of the presidential race in The Pearls. In The Suit, we dive into how millennials are changing politics and what candidates and parties need to do to appeal to young voters. In the Heels, we share some of our favorite Internet distractions.


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In the Briefcase, Sarah and Beth describe the water crisis in Flint, Michigan, and discuss Bernie Sanders’ decision to inject the anti-establishment sentiment into the Democratic primary. We also share some great listener feedback on our political correctness discussion. 


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This week, Sarah and Beth react to the recent Republican and Democratic debates before tackling what is arguably a key driver in this presidential cycle: political correctness. Have we gone too far in trying to be PC, or have we turned political correctness into shorthand for something else entirely? And what does this have to do with The Donald? 

In the Heels, we share our favorite subscription services. 

Side note: We apologize for the small audio issues in The Pearls. Luckily, we had it sorted out by The Heels!


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Sarah and Beth discuss feedback on our abortion episode, the community of Pantsuit Politics listeners, and offer our unfiltered thoughts on the State of the Union and the GOP Response. 


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This week in The Suit we discuss criminal justice reform and the myriad of issues at every stage in the process. From policing problems to mass incarceration, criminal justice reform has emerged as an important priority for both Democrats and Republicans. During The Pearls, we talk polls and the upcoming State of the Union (which we will be live tweeting!). In The Heels, we discuss great movies we've seen recently.


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We're adding a new weekly show! We're calling it the Friday Briefcase. The plan is to send you on your way into the weekend with a brief discussion on one important piece of news. This week we're updating you on the standoff in Oregon and Obama's executive action on gun control. We're also giving shoutouts during Friday Feedback to let you know we hear y'all!


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On this episode, we discuss Carly Fiorina's infamous tweet over the weekend, how we move forward in the abortion debate, and our favorite Christmas presents we received this holiday season. 


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From Caitlin Jenner to Cecil the Lion to the Iran agreement, 2015 fired the internet up. We talk about the biggest stories of the year, our lack of outrage, and how we think it might be most productive to discuss these issues moving forward. Against our wills, we also discuss Donald Trump's recent comments about Hillary Clinton, and we end with a critically important debate: bar soap vs. body wash. 


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Welcome to all our new listeners! Thank you to everyone subscribing and reviewing us on iTunes. This week we're discussing the recent Republican and Democratic debates. We're also sharing our favorite books from 2015!


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In this episode, we get inspired by Gloria Steinem and share the ten things we'd like for Christmas this year. Spoiler alert: a lot of them involve a more thoughtful approach to politics. We also share some great news from around the world in The Pearls and offer a little gift-wrapping and gift-giving advice in The Heels. 


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We reluctantlytalk about Donald Trump, because he just won't go away. We also follow-up on the latest after the San Bernardino and share some positive news stories... as well as who we respect from the other side this week.

We follow-up on our gun control discussion from last week and share little things that are making our lives better.


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We also discuss the increasing gun violence in America and if gun control offers any real solutions. This episode was recorded on December 1 before the mass shooting in San Bernardino, California.


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This week we talked about the continuing conflict in the Middle East, Congress's handling of the Syrian refugee crisis, Donald Trump's latest comments, and the impact of increasing the minimum wage. We also expressed our love for Project Runway Junior, Adele, and our favorite Thanksgiving videos. 


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In our third episode, we discuss the recent terror attacks in Beirut, Egypt, and Paris and how to meaningfully address conflict in the Middle East. 

You can read The Atlantic article we refer to in this episode here.  You might also be interested in watching coverage of President Obama’s G20 remarks. 


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On this episode, Beth and I discuss protests at the University of Missouri, Yale University, and whether there is growing intolerance on college campuses. 


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We couldn't bear to wait a week to discuss the shocking results of Tuesday's election. In this episode, we talk about what Jack Conway did wrong, what Matt Bevin did right, and what it all really means for the future of Kentucky.


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Beth and I are so excited to launch our new podcast Pantsuit Politics on Election Day! We couldn't find a program that brought a nuanced perspective to today's current events and political issues... so we decided to create one. 

We're going to start every episode with a discussion of the week's news - a segment we're calling The Pearls. For our main segment The Suit, we'll discuss one major issue or story. Finally, in The Heels, we'll share something fun making our lives better - not politically or news related. 

We hope you enjoy our premiere episode here or subscribe on iTunes! A huge thank you to Nicholas, Sarah's husband, for signing up to be our executive producer!

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