That Tech Pod: Recent Episodes

Laura Milstein and Gabriela Schulte

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This week on That Tech Pod, we look up. We're joined by Dr. Franck Marchis, CEO and co-founder of SkyMapper, co-founder of Unistellar, Director of Citizen Science at the SETI Institute, and one of the world's leading planetary astronomers. From discovering triple-asteroid systems to helping build the next generation of citizen science, Franck has spent his career making space exploration more accessible to everyone.

In this episode, we dive into the search for extraterrestrial intelligence, what astronomers actually do at SETI, and whether AI is changing the way we explore the universe. Franck shares his thoughts on whether intelligent alien life is likely to exist, what would happen if humanity received a credible signal from another civilization, and whether we're more likely to find microbes in our own solar system before discovering an advanced civilization light-years away. We also discuss how astronomy is no longer reserved for professional observatories. Thanks to advances in smart telescopes, AI, and global collaboration, everyday enthusiasts can now make meaningful contributions to scientific discovery. Franck explains how SkyMapper is building a worldwide network of connected telescopes and all-sky cameras designed to continuously monitor the skies and create trusted, verifiable observations for researchers and citizen scientists alike.

Finally, we explore SkySphere, SkyMapper's new intelligent all-sky camera that captures a continuous 180-degree view of the sky using on-device AI to detect meteors, satellites, drones, aircraft, and other phenomena in real time. We talk about how the project could reshape both amateur astronomy and scientific research, and how listeners can get involved through its successful Kickstarter campaign.

Learn more about SkyMapper and check out the SkySphere Kickstarter. You can also learn more about Franck’s work with the SETI Institute.

Dr. Franck Marchis is the CEO and co-founder of SkyMapper, co-founder of Unistellar, and the Director of Citizen Science at the SETI Institute. A planetary astronomer by training, his research spans exoplanets, asteroid systems, and high-resolution imaging. He is widely known for co-discovering multiple triple-asteroid systems and for pioneering technologies and programs that bring astronomical discovery to the public. Through his efforts at SkyMapper and his work at SETI, Franck is helping build a global community of citizen scientists empowered to explore and understand the universe.

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This week, That Tech Pod does something a little different, teaming up with Steve Rapp and Tim Garner from The Sales Docket Podcast for a crossover pod that bridges technology and modern sales leadership. What starts as a discussion about sales quickly evolves into a candid conversation about trust, technical expertise, AI, career growth, and why relationships still matter more than ever. If you enjoy this conversation, be sure to check out The Sales Docket Podcast for more discussions on modern sales leadership, go-to-market strategy, and revenue growth.

Kevin and Laura compare notes with Steve and Tim on what separates great sales professionals from everyone else, including the critical role sales engineers play as the technical “source of truth.” The group discusses why integrity is a competitive advantage, how long-term customer relationships are built through honesty rather than hype, and why the fundamentals of listening, follow-up, and curiosity haven’t changed, even as technology has.

The conversation also tackles one of today’s biggest questions: what AI means for the future of technology careers. While opinions differ on how dramatically AI will reshape technical roles, everyone agrees that soft skills, communication, and the ability to translate complex technology into business value will remain indispensable. The episode closes with reflections on what hundreds of podcast interviews have taught the hosts about innovation, entrepreneurship, and the common traits shared by successful leaders across industries.

Whether you work in sales, engineering, cybersecurity, legal tech, or simply want a thoughtful conversation about where technology and business are headed, this crossover episode delivers practical insights, plenty of laughs, and an honest look at what still matters in an AI-driven world.

The Sales Docket Podcast, hosted by Steve Rapp and Tim Garner, is a show focused on modern sales leadership, go-to-market strategy, and the real-world challenges revenue teams face as markets and buyer behavior evolve. Steve and Tim bring hands-on experience from building and scaling sales organizations, and their conversations tend to center on practical execution rather than theory, covering what actually works in today’s competitive selling environment.

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This week on That Tech Pod, we sit down with Vicky Zhang, Chief Product Director at DESLOC, and Zoe Zou, Channel Director at DESLOC, to talk about the future of smart home security and whether smart locks are finally ready for the mainstream.

Our conversation explores DESLOC's latest innovation, the V150 Plus, which the company says is the world's first low-light self-charging smart lock. Vicky explains how the technology captures ambient light instead of relying on direct sunlight, making continuous charging practical even for shaded front doors. We also tackle the questions every homeowner has: What happens if the power goes out? What if your Wi-Fi is down? Can someone fool facial recognition with a photo, video, or even a realistic mask? The team breaks down how modern authentication systems use liveness detection and multiple layers of security to defend against spoofing attempts while keeping everyday access simple.

Beyond the technology, we challenge the team on the broader question of trust. Are smart locks actually safer than a traditional deadbolt? What have Kickstarter backers taught DESLOC about what consumers really want? And as AI and automation become more common in our homes, where should we draw the line between convenience and control? Whether you're a smart home enthusiast or a healthy skeptic, this episode offers a practical look at where connected home security is headed and the engineering decisions that make it work.

Interested in the DESLOC V150 Plus? Check out the Kickstarter campaign here: DESLOC V150 Plus on Kickstarter.

DESLOC is a smart home technology company focused on rethinking home access through innovative security solutions. The company develops connected smart locks that combine fingerprint recognition, facial recognition, keypad entry, and mobile access with an emphasis on reliability, ease of use, and security. Its latest product, the DESLOC V150 Plus, uses low-light solar technology to continuously recharge in a wide range of lighting conditions, including shaded entryways and cloudy weather. Vicky Zhang is Chief Product Director at DESLOC, where she leads product strategy and innovation for next-generation smart home security solutions. With extensive experience in smart lock development, user experience design, and authentication technologies, she helps bring innovative products from concept to market. Zoe Zou is Channel Director at DESLOC, working closely with global distribution partners and technology communities to expand the company's international presence while helping shape future product development through market insights.

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Artificial intelligence is moving at a pace few organizations have ever experienced, but how much of today's AI adoption is driven by real business value versus fear of being left behind? This week on That Tech Pod, we sit down with Steven Walchek, Founder and CEO of Liminal, for a conversation about what separates companies that are genuinely transforming with AI from those simply putting on a show.

Steven shares how growing up around entrepreneurs in Silicon Valley shaped his approach to building companies, his experiences helping scale innovation at Amazon Web Services and FIS, and the lessons learned from launching multiple startups and achieving three successful exits. Along the way, he explains why every major technology wave creates both incredible opportunities and very expensive mistakes.

We also dig into why so many organizations fall into "innovation theater," whether executives are adopting AI because of business strategy or fear of missing the next big thing, and which technologies from the past two decades proved to be underrated or wildly overhyped. Steven offers an honest perspective on where enterprise AI is heading, what regulated industries need to get right, and the AI investments companies may look back on with regret just a few years from now.

If you're trying to separate AI hype from lasting business value, this is an episode you won't want to miss.

Steven Walchek is the Founder and CEO of Liminal, where he helps large regulated enterprises securely scale generative AI with the right balance of governance, visibility, and multi-model access. He’s spent more than 15 years building and scaling companies across fintech, cloud, and enterprise software, focused on turning emerging technologies into real operational advantage. Before Liminal, Steven was EVP and Chief Innovation Officer at FIS, where he led corporate venture initiatives, launched new business lines, and built multiple subsidiary companies. Earlier in his career at Amazon Web Services, he worked on early machine learning and cloud infrastructure initiatives while helping expand the partner ecosystem and drive new revenue growth. He’s also been involved in three successful exits, including DebtMarket, the fintech company he co-founded and later sold to Intercontinental Exchange. Today, he focuses on helping regulated industries adopt AI at scale without losing control, security, or trust.

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Laura has been looking forward to this one for a while. On this episode of That Tech Pod, we sit down with Justin Silverman, the Chief Operating Officer of Legal Solutions at Mitratech, to talk about what it really takes to build and scale enterprise software in the age of AI.

Justin has led product organizations across legal technology, insurance technology, and enterprise SaaS, giving him a unique perspective on how different industries adopt technology, where product strategy succeeds or fails, and why organizational leadership becomes just as important as product innovation as companies grow. We discuss the surprising similarities and differences between building software for lawyers versus insurance professionals, the balance between product decisions and people decisions, and what changes when you're responsible for one of the largest legal software portfolios in the industry.

The conversation also takes a practical look at AI beyond the marketing headlines. Justin shares how Mitratech is approaching AI both inside the business and for customers, where employees are still hesitant to embrace AI in their daily work, and whether AI has actually made product management easier or simply raised expectations for everyone involved. We also explore why legal spending continues to rise despite decades of technology-driven efficiency gains and the costly mistakes software companies make when chasing growth instead of solving real customer problems. If you're interested in product leadership, AI adoption, legal technology, or simply how large software organizations make strategic decisions, this episode offers an inside look from someone helping shape the future of enterprise legal software.

Justin Silverman is Chief Operating Officer of Legal Solutions at Mitratech, leading Product Management, Engineering, and Operations across the Legal Solutions division, with responsibility for bringing AI-powered solutions to customers and driving AI adoption across Mitratech's own operations. In March 2021, he joined Mitratech from Vertafore, a software provider in the insurance industry, where he led product management for their insurance agency management system business. Prior to Vertafore, he was VP of Product Management and General Manager of LexisNexis CounselLink, an e-billing and matter management solution. Justin's experience spans growing B2B software businesses, solving complex customer problems, and driving performance across large, cross-functional teams.

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This week on That Tech Pod, we sit down with Matt Mahon, Vice President of Client Solutions at Level Legal, to talk about what's really happening across the legal technology landscape in 2026. Matt shares what attorneys are asking for today, why AI hasn't driven costs down as quickly as many predicted, and how legal teams should be preparing for emerging evidence sources like AI assistants, chatbots, and ephemeral communications.

We also discuss whether traditional eDiscovery pricing models still make sense, the assumptions the industry will soon leave behind, and what it takes to build defensible, evidence-first workflows in an AI-powered world. Matt explains why AI is transforming legal work without eliminating the complexity that drives litigation, and why organizations that focus on governance and strategy will ultimately see the biggest gains. We also explore the biggest trends shaping the industry this year, what excites him most about where legal technology is headed, and where he believes the market is still falling short.

Finally, Matt celebrates Level Legal's new Band 3 ranking in the 2026 Chambers Litigation Support Guide for USA Nationwide eDiscovery providers and previews his upcoming Electronic Discovery Reference Model webinar on digital evidence and recent case law.

Learn more about Level Legal's Chambers ranking:
https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/level-legal-earns-ranking-in-chambers-and-partner-2026-litigation-support-guide-for-ediscovery-302809787.html

Register for the EDRM webinar, "Digital Evidence: Mapping the Landscape with Case Insights": https://levellegal.com/resources/

Matt Mahon is the Vice President of Client Solutions at Level Legal. Matt draws on decades of experience in eDiscovery to help clients develop bespoke solutions to their problems. Matt regularly shares his expertise and thought leadership, speaking at industry conferences, CLE events, law firm trainings, and more. He holds several industry certifications, including CEDS from ACEDs, IGP from ARMA International, and is a RelativityOne Certified Pro and Relativity Certified Sales Pro. Matt also serves as the President of the ACEDS Jacksonville chapter.

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This week on That Tech Pod, we sit down with Sebastian Wernicke, a globally recognized expert on data and AI strategy whose TED Talks have been viewed more than five million times. Sebastian argues that successful AI adoption has far less to do with choosing the right tools and far more to do with building the right culture.

We explore why "data-driven" organizations often struggle to make better decisions, and why Sebastian prefers the idea of being "data-inspired" instead. He explains how leaders can create cultures built on evidence, curiosity, and better questions rather than dashboards and reports. The conversation also takes a fresh look at Shadow AI. Rather than treating employees' use of unauthorized AI tools as simply a security problem, Sebastian explains why it can be a signal that workers are frustrated by broken processes, inefficient workflows, and organizational bottlenecks. We also tackle the growing debate around whether AI is entering bubble territory, what executives misunderstand about AI demand, and how massive investments like Kirkland & Ellis's reported $500 million AI initiative could reshape competition across industries. Will AI become a game where only the largest organizations can afford to compete, or will smaller companies find new ways to stay ahead? Finally, Sebastian shares examples from his book Data Inspired that show how organizations can unlock the value of data not through technology purchases, but through culture, leadership, and better decision-making habits. If you're trying to separate AI hype from business reality, this episode offers a practical roadmap for what actually drives transformation.

A leading expert in data and AI strategy, Sebastian Wernicke believes that the key to unlocking data’s power lies not in technology, but in leaders fostering a culture of evidence and inquiry. For over 20 years, Sebastian has guided organizations around the world to harness the power of data and AI to achieve breakthrough transformation. Sebastian's ability to make complex topics around data accessible, engaging, and actionable has made him a sought-after speaker and workshop facilitator. His three acclaimed TED Talks have reached over 5 million viewers.

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AI has moved far beyond experimentation, but many organizations are still figuring out what happens when it becomes part of everyday work. In this episode of That Tech Pod, we sit down with Meredith Kildow, President of Consilio, to explore what it really takes to operationalize AI at scale.

Drawing on more than 25 years of experience spanning sales, consulting, operations, and executive leadership, Meredith shares a practical perspective on why successful AI adoption is less about technology and more about ownership, process design, culture, and execution. We discuss the difference between running AI pilots and embedding AI into mission-critical workflows, why many organizations struggle to translate productivity gains into measurable business outcomes, and how leadership teams should think about accountability when AI becomes part of the workforce.

The conversation also examines AI's impact on consulting and professional services, where efficiency gains can fundamentally reshape how value is delivered to clients. Meredith offers insights into the common mistakes organizations make when they try to solve people and process challenges with technology alone, the growing complexity that can come with increased automation, and what today's leaders may be misunderstanding about AI's long-term role in business.

This episode is a candid look at the operational realities of AI adoption and why the companies seeing the greatest results are focusing as much on people and culture as they are on the technology itself.

Meredith Kildow is an accomplished operations and sales executive with more than 25 years of experience across multiple industries. Her areas of expertise include expanding go-to-market strategies and bringing high performing teams together through both organic and inorganic growth. Meredith is a champion of combining data-driven approaches with an emphasis on people, culture, and transformation to grow motivated, balanced teams. As President, Meredith is focused on driving excellence in Consilio’s combined commercial business lines, including revenue, account management, and operational delivery across their global client base.

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As we celebrate our 300th episode, we looked back at two very different conferences that revealed the same technology trend. First was the Bitcoin conference in Las Vegas, where the conversation was no longer about whether Bitcoin would survive. Instead, attendees focused on institutional adoption, corporate treasury strategies, regulation, and how Bitcoin fits into the future of global finance. Laura also spent time meeting with industry leaders including BitFuFu, XCE, and Soapbox Technologies, gaining additional insight into where the industry is heading. The technology has matured beyond its early skepticism and is now being discussed as part of the mainstream financial system.

A few weeks later at CLOC 2026 in Chicago, we saw a similar evolution in the legal technology world. AI dominated the agenda, but the discussion wasn’t about what AI might do someday. Legal operations leaders were focused on governance, implementation, ROI, risk management, and how to successfully deploy AI within their organizations. The excitement remains, but the conversations have become much more practical.

What stood out was how closely these industries mirrored one another. At Bitcoin, the question was how to govern and integrate digital assets. At CLOC, the question was how to govern and operationalize AI. In both cases, the technology itself was no longer the story. Execution was.

After 300 episodes covering everything from cybersecurity and privacy to AI, legal tech, crypto, space technology, and everything in between, one lesson continues to emerge: the future isn’t built on bold predictions. It’s built on organizations that can turn innovation into measurable business value.

Most importantly, thank you to everyone who has listened, subscribed, shared episodes, joined us as guests, and supported That Tech Pod over the last five years. What started as a simple idea has grown into 300 conversations with incredible leaders, innovators, and experts across countless industries. We appreciate every listener who has been part of this journey. Here’s to the first 300 episodes, and to the next 300!

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What does it take to modernize the systems that keep water flowing, wastewater moving, and nine million New Yorkers served every day?

In this episode, we sit down with Robert "Max" Maxfield, Chief Systems Architect at AITHERAS and the architect behind New York City's SCADA modernization efforts for the Bureau of Wastewater Treatment. Max takes us inside the world of critical infrastructure, where downtime isn't an inconvenience, it's a public risk. From managing decades-old industrial systems and balancing modernization against reliability, to defending essential services against cyber threats, Max shares what it really takes to operate technology that most people never think about until it fails.

We also explore the realities of AI in critical infrastructure, the cybersecurity challenges facing utilities, the surprising longevity of legacy systems, and how Max's passion for motorcycles, racing, and building machines shapes his approach to engineering. It's a conversation about technology, risk, resilience, and why sometimes the most important systems are the ones nobody notices.

Robert “Max” Maxfield is the Chief Systems Architect at AITHERAS, leading the SCADA Modernization Program for NYC’s Bureau of Wastewater Treatment. In this role, Max designs and deploys the systems that keep critical water infrastructure operating for nine million New Yorkers. With 20+ years in industrial controls, 27 platform certifications, and prior architect roles on national operations centers and the Doyon Utilities Alaska modernization, Max specializes in the messy intersection of legacy industrial systems, modern SCADA, cybersecurity, and, increasingly, AI. He's been published in Forbes on industrial technology, runs his own GPU lab for local model fine-tuning, and spends his off-hours on custom motorcycles, off-road racing, and drag racing. Equal parts engineer, builder, and pragmatist, Max brings a field-tested perspective on what actually works when the stakes are critical infrastructure.

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In this episode of That Tech Pod, we sit down with Greg Upah for a conversation that goes far beyond scripts, software, and sales tactics. With a career path spanning academia, advertising, Wall Street, and sales education, Greg brings a rare perspective on what actually influences decision-making and why human behavior still sits at the center of great selling.

We explore what stays constant across industries, whether modern sales technology has changed the game or simply changed the packaging, and why the fundamentals of buyer psychology still matter. Greg also shares lessons from mentoring the next generation of sellers at Texas A&M, discusses the ideas behind his book Sales Talks: The Why, What, and How of Selling, and reflects on the hard-earned lessons that shaped his own career. Whether you're leading a sales team, building technology, or trying to understand how people make decisions, this episode is a look at the timeless principles behind meaningful conversations and lasting results.

To get a copy of the book, Sales Talks: The Why, What, and How of Selling, Greg asks readers to email him directly at GregUpah@gmail.com.

Greg Upah has built a career that spans academia, advertising, finance, and sales education. He began as a marketing professor at Virginia Tech and later at NYU Stern School of Business, before moving into industry as an associate research director and new business team member at Young & Rubicam in New York. He then spent 15 years at Merrill Lynch in senior sales and marketing roles within its Asset Management Group. For more than a decade, he has mentored students in the Professional Sales Program at Texas A&M University. A graduate of University of Notre Dame with a Ph.D. in Marketing from University of Illinois Urbana-Champaign, he has published in leading journals including the Journal of Marketing and is the author of Sales Talks.

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In this episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin sit down with Chad Gold, CFO of Fullstory and former finance leader at G2 and Salesloft, for a candid conversation about what finance leadership actually looks like in today’s SaaS market.

Chad breaks down how the CFO role has evolved as the industry shifts away from growth-at-all-costs and toward profitability, operational discipline, and measurable efficiency. He shares what private equity ownership changes behind the scenes, including tighter reporting expectations, faster accountability cycles, and a sharper focus on margin performance. The conversation also cuts through the noise around AI spending. Chad gives a practical finance perspective on which AI investments are creating real operational leverage versus which ones are simply expensive experiments designed to satisfy boardroom pressure. Along the way, he explains the metrics that matter most now compared to five years ago, where companies risk overcorrecting on cost-cutting, and how SaaS leaders can balance innovation with long-term value creation.

If you want an honest look at how modern CFOs evaluate technology, efficiency, and growth in a tougher market, this episode delivers it.

Chad Gold is the Chief Financial Officer at Fullstory, where he leads finance and helps guide the company’s growth and operational strategy. He brings a strong track record from high-growth SaaS companies, having previously served as CFO at G2 and Salesloft, where he supported rapid scaling and value creation. Across these roles, he has developed a practical perspective on how finance leaders evaluate technology investments, particularly around AI, with a focus on driving efficiency, improving margins, and aligning cost discipline with customer experience.

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This week on That Tech Pod, Kevin and Laura talk with David Turner, Global Leader of Data & Analytics and Co-Leader of AI at FTI Consulting, about what it really means to operate at the center of data, AI, and high-stakes problem solving.

David’s career path might look straightforward, from Arthur Andersen to Capital One and then more than two decades at FTI, but he explains it was less about a master plan and more about finding the right environments and teams. Consulting, for him, became the place where he could continuously solve new, complex problems, often stepping in when companies are facing moments that feel existential.

The conversation dives into AI quickly, cutting through the hype. David focuses on what actually works: real use cases, hands-on experience, and teams actively experimenting with tools. His view is that AI isn’t something you can understand from a slide deck. It’s a skill you build by using it, and the companies moving fastest are the ones sharing what’s working internally. One of the biggest themes is how AI is reshaping the economics of consulting. If technology compresses time to insight, what happens to the billable hour? David doesn’t see a clean break, but he does see a shift. Expertise becomes more valuable, and firms will need to get more creative with pricing, blending traditional models with outcome-based approaches depending on the work. They also spend time on risk, shaped in part by David’s early experience during the collapse of Arthur Andersen. That moment reinforced that no firm is immune, and it continues to influence how he balances innovation with caution, especially in today’s AI-driven environment. This is a grounded look at where AI is actually making an impact and where the real challenges still are.

David Turner is the Global Leader of Data and Analytics and Co-Leader of AI at FTI Consulting, and now serves as the firm’s Chief Technology Officer for client-facing technology. He works with executive teams on high-stakes challenges across investigations, litigation, compliance, and corporate transformation, helping organizations turn data into a real asset using advanced analytics and responsible AI. Over the course of his career, he’s advised Fortune 500 companies, global law firms, and public sector clients, and has played a key role in shaping FTI’s approach to AI and client-facing solutions.

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Coming off the Bitcoin 2026 conference in Las Vegas, Laura and Kevin sit down with Eliézer Ndinga, the Global Head of Research at 21Shares, a Switzerland-based financial services company that issues cryptocurrency exchange-traded products, to unpack what they heard, what actually matters, and what’s still just noise.

We get into Eli’s background and how he’s been navigating the intersection of crypto, infrastructure, and real-world adoption, then use that lens to pressure test some of the biggest themes coming out of the conference. Where is the signal versus the hype? What felt different this year compared to prior cycles? And what are people still getting wrong?

The conversation moves from big-picture trends into more practical territory. We talk about where institutional interest is real versus performative, how regulation is shaping behavior behind the scenes, and what it actually looks like for companies trying to build in this space right now. Eli shares where he’s seeing momentum, where things are stuck, and what he’s personally paying attention to over the next 12–18 months. We then spend time on the human side of all of this. How do you build conviction in a space that constantly resets the narrative? What separates people who stick around and compound knowledge from those who chase cycles? And how should someone adjacent to crypto be thinking about getting involved without getting burned?

Eliézer Ndinga is the Global Head of Research at 21Shares, where he leads the firm’s efforts to analyze digital asset markets, blockchain innovation, and the evolving role of crypto in global finance. A founding team member who joined in 2020, he has played a key role in shaping the company’s research perspective as it grew into one of the world’s largest issuers of crypto exchange-traded products. Eli is known for connecting the technical foundations of blockchain with real-world applications across enterprises, financial systems, and emerging technologies like DeFi and tokenization. His work focuses on identifying where digital assets are gaining meaningful traction, how regulatory shifts are influencing adoption, and where the next wave of growth is likely to emerge.

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Today's episode starts off with an enthusiastic push to adopt dogs, spotlighting Tonka, a sweet, cuddly miniature pit bull from the Colleton County Animal Shelter. Despite a cosmetic leg issue, he’s healthy, great with other animals, and in need of a home. Laura makes a passionate case for adoption or fostering, even joking about personally arranging transport. It’s a genuine reminder that there are a lot of great dogs out there that need homes so adopt a dog!

The conversation then gets serious turning to David Matalon, who breaks down the uncomfortable reality of modern work: remote and distributed teams are here to stay, but most companies haven’t actually solved how to secure them. The old model, locked-down corporate laptops or clunky VDI setups, doesn’t match how people work today. Employees are constantly moving between personal devices, hotel Wi-Fi, and public networks, often handling sensitive data in ways that leave them far more exposed than they realize.

BYOD sits right at the center of that tension. David's take is that companies have been avoiding the truth for years. You can’t fully control the device anymore, and trying to do so either creates major security gaps or pushes employees to work around restrictions entirely. The shift he describes is toward securing the work itself, not the hardware, using approaches like isolated workspaces that separate professional and personal activity without killing usability. It also becomes critical in the age of AI, where the real risk is employees casually moving sensitive data into personal tools without oversight. Looking ahead, Matalon predicts a pretty clear shift: the idea of company-issued laptops as the default will fade, and BYOD will become the norm. The challenge for organizations isn’t whether this happens, it’s whether they can secure it in a way that actually aligns with how people work.

David Matalon is a five-time founder and the CEO of Venn, where he focuses on helping organizations securely support distributed and remote workforces. With a background spanning virtual desktop infrastructure (VDI), endpoint security, and compliance, he has built and led multiple companies centered on delivering secure application access for modern work environments. At Venn, he introduced Blue Border™, a technology designed to create a secure, IT-controlled workspace on personal devices without sacrificing user experience or relying on traditional VDI. He holds an undergraduate degree from New York University Stern School of Business and a master’s degree from Columbia University.

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In this episode, we sit down with Ilan Sherr, VP of Investigations and Regulatory Response at Lineal, to explore how AI is reshaping legal work, investigations, and compliance.

Ilan shares how his background in competition law and regulatory enforcement led him to see early on that reactive approaches weren’t sustainable, pushing him toward building AI-driven methods to identify risk before it escalates. We unpack where organizations really stand on the shift to proactive monitoring, and why many teams are still relying on legacy eDiscovery practices that create inefficiencies and exposure. The conversation also digs into culture. While companies talk about proactive risk detection, those efforts often stall when transparency and accountability become uncomfortable. On the AI front, we tackle a growing question: when does not using AI become a defensibility issue? Ilan offers a practical view on how expectations are evolving and what legal teams should be thinking about now. Finally, we zoom out to strategy. Ilan explains what becomes possible when legal expertise is tightly integrated with data and technology, how that’s changing the role of investigations teams, and why, despite all the innovation, the hardest challenges are still human.

Ilan Sherr is Vice President of Investigations and Regulatory Response at Lineal, where he helps organizations deal with investigations and respond to complex regulatory scrutiny while advancing proactive, AI-enabled risk strategies. An award-winning legal innovator with over 20 years’ experience in competition law, regulatory enforcement, and global compliance, Ilan previously founded and led Aiscension, DLA Piper’s AI-driven risk-management business, recognized for transforming how organizations detect cartel and bribery risks. He has been named in The Lawyer’s Hot 100 and recognized by Legal Week, the Financial Times, and ALM for his work at the intersection of law and AI.

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With Tax Day right around the corner, Laura and Kevin take a hard look at a question a lot of high earners quietly avoid: if you’re making great money in tech, why aren’t you actually on track to retire?

Haley Gray, CFP®, joins the pod to break down the gap between income and real wealth. She explains how strong salaries can create a false sense of security, especially when taxes, lifestyle creep, and equity compensation complicate the picture more than people expect. The conversation digs into how rapid income growth subtly reshapes spending habits, often locking people into a higher cost of living before they’ve built a solid financial foundation. Haley also unpacks the realities of equity comp, from RSUs to stock options, and why having too much tied up in one company can create risk that’s easy to overlook when things are going well. With a practical, no-nonsense approach, Haley walks through what “retirement readiness” actually means, how often people should be checking in on their progress, and the moment of truth many face when they finally run the numbers.

The big takeaway: making good money isn’t the same as building wealth. But with a few smart moves, starting now, it’s possible to get on track faster than most people think.

Haley Gray is a CFP® professional and Financial Advisor at Stellarix Group, where she works with professionals in technology and other fast-paced industries to navigate complex financial decisions with clarity and confidence. Her work focuses on retirement planning, tax strategy, and long-term wealth building, with an emphasis on areas that are especially relevant for tech professionals, such as equity compensation, variable income, and concentrated stock positions. Haley brings a modern, practical perspective to financial planning, helping clients simplify complexity and make smarter decisions with their money over time. She is known for her practical, education-first approach, helping clients focus on what actually matters and make confident financial decisions without unnecessary complexity. Her goal is to help clients build strong financial foundations that support both their careers and their long-term goals.

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This week on That Tech Pod, healthcare cybersecurity gets a reality check. Ed Gaudet, Founder and CEO of Censinet, joins the show to unpack how he found his way into healthcare security and why it became the problem he chose to focus on long term. From there, the conversation moves quickly past surface-level explanations and into where things actually break inside health systems.

It’s not a lack of tools. It’s not a lack of awareness. Ed lays out how leadership gaps, misaligned incentives, and day-to-day operational pressures create the conditions for breaches, even in organizations that believe they’re in good shape. He also shares how he would test that assumption and what signals tell you whether a system is truly secure or just hoping it is. The episode digs into the tension between patient care and security, questioning whether it’s a real constraint or sometimes a convenient reason to avoid harder decisions. On the AI front, Ed separates what’s actually working from what’s getting too much credit, and highlights the parts of a breach that technology alone won’t fix. It wraps with a candid look at the hard truths the industry tends to avoid and what real accountability would look like if organizations took cybersecurity seriously.

Then stick around to the very end for a bonus poem that adds an unexpected close to the conversation.

Ed Gaudet is the Founder and CEO of Censinet, a company focused on healthcare cybersecurity and third-party risk management. With more than 25 years of software and technology leadership experience, Ed has held executive roles spanning product, marketing, and sales at companies including Imprivata, Liquid Machines, IONA Technologies, Rational Software, and SQA, Inc. At Imprivata, he served as CMO and later business unit GM, leading the creation of Imprivata Cortext, a cloud-based clinical communications platform recognized as best-in-KLAS. Ed holds multiple patents in mobile authentication, secure content sharing, and distributed data management, and he is a recognized speaker on leadership, healthcare, and regulatory compliance.

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On this week's episode of That Tech Pod, we sit down with Michel Langlois, a longtime engineering leader whose career spans the rise of modern networking, from scaling Cisco’s IOS platform to leading as CTO at Calix. He joins us to cut through the noise around AI in network security and talk about what’s actually happening under the hood.

We get into how AI is actually being used inside modern networks, replacing work that once depended on experienced engineers, and where it’s truly improving operations versus where it’s still overhyped. That naturally raises the bigger question: is AI making network engineers better, or starting to replace parts of the role? We also explore the growing risk to telecom and broadband infrastructure, how exposed access networks really are, and whether the industry is taking those threats seriously enough, along with whether AI is reducing alert fatigue or just creating smarter noise. To close, Michel shares lessons from decades of building and leading engineering teams, including how to keep AI efforts focused on real outcomes instead of endless experimentation, and what it takes to actually bring these technologies into production at scale.

Michel Langlois has spent nearly four decades at the center of network innovation, helping scale some of the most important software platforms in modern connectivity. At Cisco Systems, he helped build and lead the global IOS engineering organization as the company grew from a $1B business to more than $40B. At Juniper Networks, he overhauled Junos software development to improve speed, quality, and scale. And during a decade as CTO at Calix, he helped reshape the company’s product strategy and engineering culture, contributing to a fourfold increase in revenue and a tenfold jump in market cap.
Today, Langlois advises CEOs and boards during key growth inflection points, helping companies scale without breaking their engineering core. A Forbes Tech Council contributor and author of the Amazon bestseller Beyond the Code, he focuses on the intersection of AI-driven networking, cloud transformation, and organizational design.

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This week Laura and Kevin sit down with Bruno Lecoq, CEO of BEMO, to talk about the reality of cybersecurity for small and mid-sized defense contractors. Bruno shares how he ended up leading a cybersecurity company and why smaller organizations, especially those connected to the defense supply chain, have become some of the most attractive targets for attackers. The conversation challenges the common belief that hackers only focus on big-name companies and instead explains what’s actually happening on the ground for organizations with 50 to 100 employees.

From there, we dig into the difference between security theater and real protection. Bruno explains why fear-driven compliance advice often leads companies to spend more money without meaningfully reducing risk, who benefits from that cycle, and where organizations tend to invest in tools that look impressive but don’t actually stop breaches. We also get into practical issues leaders overlook, like admin access and identity controls, which are often the simplest path into a company network. We wrap with a candid look at real-world constraints. If a company passes every audit but still gets breached, what does that say about compliance frameworks like CMMC, SOC 2, and NIST SP 800-171? And looking ahead, Bruno weighs in on what’s more likely to cause damage over the next five years: sophisticated AI-powered attacks or companies continuing to ignore the basic security controls that stop most breaches today.

Bruno Lecoq is the CEO of BEMO and a trusted voice in cybersecurity compliance for US-based small and mid-sized defense contractors. He works hands-on with business owners, IT leaders, and executives to turn complex regulatory frameworks into practical, achievable compliance outcomes. With deep expertise across CMMC, SOC 2, ISO 27001, HIPAA, and NIST 800, Bruno is known for his calm, implementation-first approach. Rather than promoting fear or over-engineered solutions, he helps organizations align compliance requirements with the tools, processes, and systems they already use, particularly within Microsoft environments.

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In this special Legalweek recap episode Laura and Kevin unpack everything that stood out at Legalweek 2026 in New York. This year’s conference felt different from the start. For the first time in decades, Legalweek moved from the Hilton to the Javits Center, giving the event a much larger, more energetic feel and bringing together thousands of lawyers, technologists, and legal operations professionals to talk about where legal tech is heading next.

A big theme throughout the week was the shift from AI hype to real-world use. Vendors and practitioners alike are moving past the early experimentation phase and focusing on how artificial intelligence actually fits into litigation workflows, document review, and investigations. Kevin and Laura share what they heard on the conference floor about the changing eDiscovery market, and how the growing complexity of legal matters is increasing the value of experienced teams alongside new technology.

The episode features conversations with industry leaders including Joey Seeber of Level Legal and Bryant Gauthier of PLUSnxt, who share their perspectives on where AI is genuinely helping legal teams and where expectations still outpace reality. We also pulled aside Dan Bellopede from Mitratech for a quick chat on his thoughts on the conference. Along the way, we cover the lighter side of the conference: creative booth marketing, the surprisingly weak swag this year, the parties and the conversations that make Legalweek as much about relationships as technology.

If you couldn’t make it to Legalweek this year, this episode offers a candid look at what people were really talking about, what trends actually matter, and how the legal tech industry may be evolving heading into the next year.

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In this episode of That Tech Pod, Kevin and Laura sit down with IT entrepreneur Rob Calvert, founder of Second Son Consulting and a longtime leader in the Apple enterprise ecosystem. After being laid off in the early 2000s, Rob built his consulting firm from a home office into the largest member of the Apple Consultants Network in Los Angeles and one of the top firms in the country. Drawing on more than 25 years advising companies across dozens of industries, he shares a grounded look at what actually makes technology succeed or fail inside real organizations. The conversation even opens with an unexpected detour into “Punch the monkey,” a viral zoo story that sparks a debate about how easily people question or misread what they see online in the age of AI (Laura swears this is a real monkey while Kevin thinks its GenAI to sell toys).

From there, the conversation explores why most people only notice IT when something breaks and how that mindset leads to bad leadership decisions. Rob argues many “tech problems” are really culture and workflow problems, pointing to common mistakes like letting experimental tools quietly become production systems or constantly chasing new platforms without fully implementing the ones already in place. The result is wasted budgets, burned-out IT teams, and systems that drift away from how people actually work. They also get into the Mac vs. PC debate in the enterprise, the subtle ways companies waste millions in IT spending, and the gap between AI hype and real business impact. Rob says many small and mid-sized companies are spending a lot of time evaluating AI tools but seeing very little return so far, while larger organizations may eventually benefit through heavy customization. At the end of the episode, Rob finally agrees to go look up Punch the monkey. 🐒

Rob Calvert is an entrepreneur and IT leader who has spent more than 25 years helping businesses make technology actually work for the people using it. After being laid off in the early 2000s, Rob Calvert built Second Son Consulting from his home office into the largest member of the Apple Consultants Network in Los Angeles and a top-ten firm nationwide. His work focuses on aligning technology with workflows and culture rather than treating IT as a standalone function, and his team has created widely used open-source tools for the Mac admin community. Rob has advised companies across more than 15 industries, managed millions in IT budgets, and is known for challenging cookie-cutter approaches to IT in favor of systems that support how people actually work.

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In this episode of That Tech Pod, we sit down with Dr. Jonathan Schaeffer, a longtime computer scientist who didn’t arrive in AI chasing demos or hype, but by trying to solve a much harder problem: how to keep data safe.

Jonathan walks us through his path from privacy and security research into modern AI, and why those early concerns feel even more urgent now. While everyone is fixated on hallucinations, he argues the bigger risks are quieter and more structural, from loss of user control to systems that appear trustworthy while subtly eroding human judgment. We dig into the growing concentration of AI power among a handful of companies and whether that outcome was inevitable or the result of choices we made along the way. Jonathan reflects on the human skills he worries we may stop exercising as AI gets better, and the low-key decisions happening right now that could shape the next decade far more than any flashy model release. Finally, he shares what he’s building with Synsira: privacy-first, local AI tools designed to work with your own data without shipping it to the cloud, leaking sensitive information, or inventing answers. It’s a conversation about control, responsibility, and what trustworthy AI actually looks like when you have to live with it.

Dr. Jonathan Schaeffer is a computer scientist and AI innovator who works at the intersection of artificial intelligence, data privacy, and security. He is the founder of Synsira and the creator of KIND, (Knowledge In Depth AI), a privacy-first desktop AI that lets users search, analyze, and interact with their own knowledge bases, documents, notes, and proprietary data, without sending information to the cloud, risking data leaks, or encountering hallucinations. With a career spanning systems design and secure computing, Jonathan focuses on building AI tools that maintain true control over sensitive and regulated data, exploring what responsible, trustworthy AI looks like in practice and how organizations can innovate without surrendering autonomy. He earned his Bachelor of Science at the University of Toronto and a Master’s and Ph.D. at the University of Waterloo, then spent more than 35 years at the University of Alberta as a Distinguished Professor of Computing Science, leading pioneering AI research before retiring in 2024 to focus on AI innovation with Synsira.

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AI is no longer just a background tool. It’s drafting contracts, reviewing discovery, sending emails, negotiating deals, and triggering real-world consequences. In this episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin unpack what happens when AI starts behaving less like software and more like an employee. If an AI clause costs a company millions, misses privileged evidence, or sends sensitive information to the wrong place, who’s actually on the hook?

The conversation moves from AI as a de facto junior associate to the harder questions around liability, governance, and oversight. They explore why AI can have autonomy but no accountability, how risk gets assigned when things go wrong, and why companies are almost always left holding the bag. Then the discussion takes a turn: what happens when AI isn’t just assisting humans, but coordinating them, managing tasks, and using people as a quality-control layer?

The episode closes with a bigger debate about power, psychology, and work itself. If software is now supervising humans, assigning tasks, and shaping outcomes, are organizations ready for that shift? And if AI is doing the work while humans carry the legal risk, is that imbalance sustainable? The most dangerous AI may not be the one that replaces people, but the one that quietly manages them.

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In this Valentine’s Day episode of That Tech Pod, Kevin and Laura talk with fertility specialist Gabriela Rosa about how having a baby has quietly become a technology story. From IVF and genetic testing to telehealth and wearable data, modern fertility is increasingly shaped by algorithms, platforms, and private equity–backed clinics. What most people picture as love and biology is now deeply intertwined with data and systems most patients barely see.

The conversation starts with privacy and data ownership. Fertility and genetic data may be some of the most sensitive information a person can share, and once it’s collected, it often lives on indefinitely. We debate insurance risks, data monetization, and whether patients truly understand what they’re consenting to when they download an app or join a study. Gabriela explains that while ethical safeguards exist, there are no absolute guarantees in a world where data itself is an asset. Perhaps the biggest mic drop moment: IVF, widely seen as the gold standard, has a failure rate north of 90% per cycle started. Gabriela argues that technology should support the body, not bypass it, and that root causes like infections, lifestyle factors, and overlooked health issues are often ignored before patients are fast-tracked into expensive treatments. Her book, Fertility Breakthrough, expands on this approach and is available here: https://www.fertilitybreakthrough.com/

Gabriela Rosa is a Harvard-trained and awarded fertility specialist, founder and CEO of The Rosa Institute, and a global leader in integrative fertility care. For more than 20 years, she has helped individuals and couples around the world overcome infertility, miscarriage, and failed treatments by combining rigorous clinical research with personalized, root-cause medicine. Her work has been studied at Harvard and published in scientific forums, with research showing a 78.8% live birth rate among patients in her signature program. Gabriela holds graduate degrees in reproductive medicine, human genetics, and public health, is currently completing her Doctor of Public Health at Harvard, and leads one of the world’s first telehealth-based fertility clinics, serving patients across more than 100 countries.

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On his episode of That Tech Pod, Kevin and Laura sit down with Ray Biederman, CEO and Co-Founder of Proteus Discovery Group, to talk about what actually happens when legal theory, technology, and human behavior collide. Ray walks through his unusual path from music education to law to legal tech, and how that background shaped the way he thinks about systems, judgment, and risk. Rather than chasing hype, he explains why Proteus focuses on defensible outcomes and practical decision-making in a crowded eDiscovery market.

The conversation gets into lessons Ray has learned by wearing every hat, product builder, services leader, and still-practicing attorney. He shares what courtroom experience teaches that product teams often miss until something breaks, especially around context, intent, and how small mistakes compound once data starts moving. Ray also offers a measured take on AI-driven review, warning against the industry’s tendency to overcorrect by trying to remove human judgment entirely, and highlights the ethical tensions that surface when AI reveals patterns no one anticipated. The episode closes with a forward-looking discussion on deepfake evidence, verification challenges, and the growing risk posed by data traveling across too many systems without enough accountability.

Ray Biederman, Chief Executive Officer and Co-Founder of Proteus Discovery Group, LLC, has worked in every phase of electronic discovery for more than two decades. He is a Super Lawyer in the area of eDiscovery, has been cited in multiple court opinions as an expert witness, and is adjunct faculty for eDiscovery at the IUPUI School of Informatics and Computing. He consults on Information Governance policies and procedures related to cybersecurity and its intersection with government regulation and industry-specific best practices. Outside of his eDiscovery experience, Ray is an active litigator representing clients in product liability work, business valuation disputes, and contract disputes. He is also a founding partner in Mattingly Burke Cohen & Biederman. He was previously an associate at Barnes & Thornburg, LLP. He holds a B.M. in Music Education from Butler University and a J.D from Indiana University, the Robert H. McKinney School of Law.

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This week Laura Milstein and Kevin Albert are joined by Nick Schutt, entrepreneur, executive leader, and host of Robots and Red Tape, for a candid conversation that starts with hiring and quickly widens into how tech is reshaping work and society. Nick breaks down why even highly qualified candidates are struggling in today’s government and contracting job market, pointing to market saturation, contract cuts, and shifting priorities across federal and consulting spaces.

The conversation moves into how AI is showing up in resumes and interviews, and why that often misses the point. Nick shares his approach to hiring people rather than skill sets, arguing that personality, judgment, and cultural fit matter far more than perfectly polished, AI-assisted answers. Laura and Kevin add their own experiences managing teams and navigating the risks of overselling versus honest capability. The episode closes by zooming out to the broader impact of technology on human connection, especially for younger generations. From online-only communication to AI companions and education, the group wrestles with where tech genuinely helps and where it quietly erodes essential social skills. The takeaway is clear: AI can be a powerful tool, but it can’t replace human relationships, accountability, or lived experience.

Nick Schutt is a serial entrepreneur and executive leader who has built and scaled multiple organizations serving both government and commercial clients since founding his first company in 2016. He currently serves as President of Artemis Human Capital Management and Executive Vice President at EVLG Solutions, where he leads IT modernization, infrastructure, and advanced technology initiatives for federal, state, and local agencies. Nick is also the co-founder of Collabulations and the host of Robots and Red Tape, a podcast focused on practical, experience-driven conversations about AI, policy, and governance. The show cuts through hype to explore how AI is actually being built and used today, the real-world consequences that come with it, and the government’s evolving role as both regulator and major customer of emerging technology.

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On this episode of That Tech Pod, we talk with Logan Lawler, Senior Director at Dell Technologies, about what it takes to make AI actually work in the real world. Logan shares his 16-year journey at Dell and why his focus today is less on hype and more on practical infrastructure choices that enable AI at scale.

We break down Edge AI versus Cloud AI with clear, concrete examples, including how GPU-accelerated desktops, workstations, and hybrid cloud setups can turn “that’s impossible” AI problems into manageable ones. Logan also highlights why storage, not compute, is often the biggest bottleneck, and the common mistakes organizations make when data can’t keep up with GPUs. The conversation gets into energy and sustainability, from the environmental cost of massive data centers to what it means when nuclear power and AI collide. We also explore the human side of AI: whether instant answers are making us lazier, why struggle is still essential for learning, and how that idea shows up in parenting, education, and work. We close with real-world edge AI success stories, a few cautionary tales, and some lighter moments, making this a grounded discussion on AI, infrastructure, and the tradeoffs we rarely talk about.

Logan Lawler works at Dell Technologies, where he leads strategy for Dell Pro Precision AI Solutions. Over his 16-year career at Dell, he’s worked across sales, marketing, and e-commerce, and now helps enterprises and creative studios leverage high-performance AI workstations and hybrid cloud infrastructure. A frequent speaker and media guest, Logan explains how GPU-accelerated PCs and storage solutions are transforming industries from film and animation to healthcare research. Logan was raised in Missouri and is a graduate of the University of Missouri. He now lives in Texas with his family.

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This week on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin sit down with Cindy Cohn, Executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, to talk about the power structures hiding in plain sight across the internet, money, surveillance, and AI. Cindy breaks down what EFF actually does and why access to the internet is not just an infrastructure problem, but a civil liberties issue that shapes who gets heard, who gets tracked, and who gets left out.

We get into how mass surveillance quietly became normal, from license plate readers to cell phone tracking, and why most people would be genuinely shocked if they saw the full picture. We also look ahead at financial surveillance, using Europe’s move toward a Digital Euro as a case study, and ask where legitimate oversight ends and control begins. On the AI front, Cindy pushes back on the idea that privacy is already lost, and explains why treating opaque systems as inevitable only benefits the most powerful actors. Cindy makes a clear case that defending digital rights does not require being a technologist or a lawyer. It starts with staying skeptical, asking hard questions, and refusing to accept tools we are not allowed to understand or challenge. That is exactly why this conversation mattered, and why we were so glad to have her on.

Cindy Cohn is the Executive Director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation and previously served as EFF’s Legal Director and General Counsel from 2000 to 2015. She has been involved with EFF since 1993, when she served as lead outside counsel in the landmark Bernstein v. U.S. Department of Justice case, a successful First Amendment challenge to U.S. export restrictions on cryptography. Her work has been widely recognized, with honors from Forbes, The National Law Journal, and The NonProfit Times for her influence in technology, law, and civil liberties. She is also the co-host of EFF’s podcast, How to Fix the Internet, and the author of Privacy’s Defender, published by MIT Press. More information about the book can be found at https://mitpress.mit.edu/9780262051248/privacys-defender/

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Today Kevin and Laura chat with Bala Muthiah, Director of Engineering at Lyft, to talk about what leadership looks like when your product moves real people through the real world. Bala shares his path from immigrating to the U.S. to leading teams responsible for systems that make time-sensitive decisions at massive scale, and how those experiences shaped his views on power, responsibility, and trust in technology.

We talk about what privacy and safety actually mean at scale, where data is not abstract and mistakes have real consequences. Bala is candid about where rideshare platforms have improved, where industries such as these still struggle, and how leaders decide where to draw hard lines around data use even when the tech makes it more possible. The conversation also gets into the human side of engineering. How do you push for speed and performance while building teams that care about ethics, psychological safety, and consent? Bala shares how AI can be used to surface collaboration risks, why that can feel uncomfortable, and how transparency and boundaries matter just as much as capability.

Bala Muthiah leads teams that power real‑time decision systems for millions of users. An immigrant from India turned Silicon Valley leader, he’s also a startup advisor, nonprofit board member, and mentor across multiple platforms. Bala blends technical expertise with people‑first leadership and community impact—showing how to scale teams, startups, and even personal growth with empathy, innovation, and AI.

Disclaimer: The views expressed in this conversation are personal and do not represent the views of his current or former employers or affiliated organizations.

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This week, we sit down with Al Pascual, CEO and founder of Scamnetic, to talk about fraud from the inside out. Al didn’t come up through product or engineering. He started his career chasing real fraud cases, shaped early on by parents who were cops and a first job in a bank fraud department. That hands-on experience is what pushed him from treating fraud as “just a job” to seeing it as his lane.

We get into the scam patterns that worry him most right now, including pig butchering and sextortion schemes that still aren’t getting enough mainstream attention. Al makes a clear case that fraud isn’t primarily a data or tooling problem. It’s a human one. Psychology, pressure, shame, and timing matter more than most defenses want to admit. When a big fraud story hits the news, he explains how coverage often misses the point by focusing on the tech and ignoring the manipulation. Al shares one of the strangest cases he’s worked, and what it taught him about how creative and absurd fraudsters can be. We also tackle the reality of AI-enabled scams, including voice cloning. How common is it really, and who’s actually at risk? Kevin is skeptical he’d fall for it, while Laura shares a story about a friend losing $500 to a gift card scam, a reminder that real people get caught all the time. This one is a grounded, sometimes funny, and occasionally unsettling look at how fraud really works, and why understanding people matters as much as understanding systems.

A recognized expert on cybercrime, Al Pascual is the CEO and Founder of Scamnetic. Scamnetic is a software solution for scam detection and protection that uses AI to analyze incoming communications in real time and flag or score risk before someone falls for a scam. A successful technology entrepreneur and a former managing executive of Javelin Strategy & Research, Al has spent his career laser-focused on protecting consumers and organizations from financially motivated crimes. His past research on consumer identity theft has been cited by hundreds of media outlets and presented at conferences around the world. Al cut his teeth fighting fraudsters at HSBC, Goldman Sachs, and FIS, where during his time as an investigator, his work resulted in the arrest of more than four hundred suspects.

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This week on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin chat with Richa Kaul, founder and CEO of Complyance, for a blunt conversation about what governance, risk, and compliance actually are, and why so many companies pretend it’s something else.

Richa walks us through how she really landed in GRC, including the moment she realized compliance isn’t about forms or frameworks. It’s about power, incentives, and who takes the fall when systems fail. Drawing on her time in legal tech, enterprise systems, and AI, she makes the case that much of today’s compliance model is quietly broken, and that organizations know it, even if they won’t admit it. We dig into why GRC has such a credibility problem, the comforting lies companies tell themselves about being “compliant,” and whether compliance should be about control or trust, and why so many leaders default to the wrong one. Richa also weighs in on whether “move fast and break things” is actually gone, or just better disguised in the age of AI. We close with a forward-looking conversation on AI risk, including the uncomfortable questions boards avoid, why training alone won’t fix reckless AI use, and what organizations should be paying attention to next if they want governance that actually works.

Richa Kaul is the founder and CEO of Complyance, an AI-powered GRC platform helping enterprises navigate governance, risk, and compliance with ease. She previously held leadership roles in legal and compliance technology, including helping scale global solutions at ContractPodAI. Richa focuses on how companies can move beyond checkbox compliance to build systems that actually support better decisions, accountability, and trust as AI becomes more embedded in the enterprise. She is passionate about the future of compliance, the role of AI in governance, and the challenges of scaling a company in enterprise tech. Her innovative approach combines deep technical expertise with strategic business acumen, making her a sought-after thought leader in the GRC space.

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As we announced last week, this month on That Tech Pod, we’re changing things up a bit. Instead of our usual deep dives into eDiscovery, data privacy, and cyber security, this December, we're spotlighting people and organizations using technology to close real gaps in opportunity.

In this episode, we sit down with Savita Raj, the CEO of Techbridge Girls, to talk about what it really takes to help girls from underrepresented communities see themselves in STEM. Savita cuts through the buzzwords to explain why the pipeline problem is still very real in 2025, even as AI races ahead, and why access is about far more than programs. It’s transportation, time, family expectations, early exposure, and a sense of belonging.

The conversation gets candid about the gap between industry rhetoric on diversity and who actually makes it through. Savita shares what funders and tech leaders often miss about hidden barriers, and why the rise of AI and automation makes sustained investment in programs like Techbridge Girls more urgent than ever.

If you want to support Techbridge Girls, you can donate directly at https://www.techbridgegirls.org/donate to help bring high-quality STEM experiences to girls from underrepresented communities, or explore ways to get involved like volunteering, mentoring, or partnering at https://www.techbridgegirls.org/get-involved to make a more hands-on impact.

Savita Raj, is the CEO of Techbridge Girls. Techbridge Girls is a nonprofit focused on opening doors to STEM for girls from underrepresented communities through hands-on learning, mentorship, and exposure to real-world careers. The organization works closely with schools and industry partners to help girls build confidence, skills, and a lasting sense that they belong in science and technology. Savita has decades-long experience in leadership, strategy, and fundraising focused on creating equitable STEM programs in underserved communities. An engineer by training, Savita has served as the Chief Program Officer for Girl Scouts of the USA and as the Executive Director for the Texas Alliance for Minorities in Engineering. She lives in Austin and enjoys traveling, reading, sewing, and baking.

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This December, That Tech Pod is shifting gears a bit. Instead of our usual deep dives into eDiscovery, privacy, and security, we’re using the next few pods to spotlight leaders and organizations using technology to close real gaps in opportunity. These episodes are about mission, access, and impact, and what it looks like to build pathways into tech from the ground up.

In this episode, Laura and Kevin talk with Danny Rojas, Executive Director of All Star Code, about why the organization’s work supporting young Black and Latino men matters right now. Danny talks about the barriers that often go unseen, from unequal access to early exposure and networks to the challenge of learning long-term skills in an attention-driven world. He also shares his own path through corporate, startup, and nonprofit leadership, and how that journey shapes the way he leads today. The conversation looks at what really drives long-term impact beyond learning to code, including mentorship, confidence, community, and industry exposure. Danny also speaks about why access, timing, and sponsorship still matter more than talent alone.

You can learn more about All Star Code's programs, get involved, or make a donation at https://allstarcode.org. To contribute directly, please visit https://allstarcode.org/donation. Your support helps expand access to tech education, mentorship, and career pathways for the next generation of innovators.

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In this episode, Laura and Kevin chat with Walter Haydock, whose path from Marine intelligence to Capitol Hill to AI governance gives him a rare view of what “security” actually means in the age of AI and generative models. Walter talks about why he thinks governance is becoming the next real defense layer, and how to sort actual AI risks from the odd glitches everyone loves to talk about. He breaks down common myths he hears from non-tech folks, what recent cloud outages say about the shortcuts companies take, and whether the latest hospital ransomware attacks signal a true AI-driven threat wave or just better marketing from bad actors.

We also get into the personal side: what feels high-stakes after years in national security, and which unexpected habits from that world turned out to be useful in tech. Walter closes by looking ahead at what might trigger the first serious AI crackdown in the U.S. and whether a federal AI law is finally on the horizon. It’s a grounded, candid look at where the field is headed from someone who’s seen the stakes up close.

Walter Haydock is the Founder and CEO of StackAware, where he helps AI-driven companies handle cybersecurity, privacy, and compliance risk. He’s one of the leading voices on ISO 42001 and has guided organizations through the audit process as AI governance becomes a core part of security. Before building StackAware, Walter worked in national security as a staff member on the House Homeland Security Committee, an analyst at the National Counterterrorism Center, and a Marine Corps intelligence officer. He’s a graduate of the Naval Academy, Georgetown’s School of Foreign Service, and Harvard Business School.

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This week’s post-Thanksgiving episode is a full smorgasbord of random stories, internet rabbit holes, and tech-adjacent tangents. Laura and Kevin skip the usual guest and run through a pile of listener-requested topics. They start with the viral Tinder profile of a man who openly admitted to abusing women yet pulled in more than 800 matches, which leads them into the strange world of dating-while-incarcerated sites. From there, they jump to Japan’s businesses that help people legally disappear without a trace, and how that even works in a world where everything leaves a digital footprint. Things keep escalating, including a true story about a man who robbed a bank to get away from his wife, only to be sentenced to house arrest. It’s messy and funny and they somehow still land the plane with a tech angle at the end. Perfect listening if you want something light but still genuinely interesting after the holiday.

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This week on the pod, Laura and Kevin sit down with Janna Scott, founder of DeFi Tax, to unpack one of crypto’s most confusing and controversial topics: taxes. Janna shares how she went from frustrated accountant to tech founder after realizing how broken the crypto tax ecosystem was. She explains why the IRS treats digital assets differently than stocks, how compliance rules can border on entrapment, and what it will take for fairer regulation to emerge.

We talk about the darker side of crypto: market manipulation, whales, and whether regulation is actually working or just pushing bad behavior further underground. Through it all, Janna brings a mix of technical insight and practical insight, reminding us that the hardest part of crypto isn’t the technology, it’s the system built around it. Between murky IRS rules and hidden market forces, it’s easy to understand why so many investors feel lost or opt out. But as Janna makes clear, accountability isn't out of reach. You just have to do the math.

Janna Scott is the founder of DeFi Tax, a platform bringing clarity and compliance to cryptocurrency tax reporting. Her journey began in 2021 after her accounting clients raised concerns about unreliable crypto tax tools. Over the next two years, Janna collaborated with the SEC, IRS, and top universities to identify and fix major compliance gaps. Her work set new standards in the field and earned recognition from regulators and academics. Today, DeFi Tax is known for its audit-ready reports, direct blockchain integration, and user-focused design. Janna’s mission is to help individuals and businesses navigate crypto taxes with confidence and transparency.

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In this episode, Dr. Ashwin Mehta joins us to talk about how AI is quietly changing the way we think, learn, and make decisions. Drawing from his global career in pharma, government, and consulting, from building digital learning systems in West Africa to leading AI strategy at Bayer — Ashwin shares why he’s dedicated his work to keeping the “human” at the center of technology.

We explore how trust in AI can evolve from confidence to dependency, what “agentic AI” really means for the future of work, and the mental habits we risk losing as machines start thinking for us. Ashwin also reflects on what he still refuses to let AI handle, and why maintaining human judgment may be the ultimate competitive edge in an increasingly automated world.

Dr. Ashwin Mehta helps organizations adopt AI in ways that put people first. With a PhD in digital learning adoption and over 20 years across pharma, government, consulting, and international health, he focuses on the intersection of technology, human capital, and transformation. His experience includes leading AI-enabled learning at Bayer, advising enterprises and governments at Deloitte, and building digital training systems in West Africa during crises.

As founder of Mehtadology, Ashwin designs AI strategies that align technology with human potential, covering topics from large language models to intelligent automation while addressing readiness, infrastructure, and culture. His research and writing offer insights on adaptive learning, AI ROI, and the cognitive impacts of delegating decisions to machines.

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In this episode of That Tech Pod, we get into the next industrial revolution, Industry 5.0, where technology and people work together instead of competing for the same space. Shay Howe, Chief Strategy Officer at ActiveCampaign, joins us to unpack how automation is evolving from efficiency-driven systems to human-centered collaboration.

We explore how the relationship between humans and machines is shifting from replacement to augmentation, and what that means for marketers, entrepreneurs, and the future of work. Shay shares real examples of automation that make marketing more personal, not less, and explains why technologies that enable creativity, empathy, and ethics will define the next era of innovation. The conversation covers everything from data transparency and responsible AI to how automation might create entirely new industries, just like cars once did for roads, dealerships, and repair shops. Along the way, Shay draws lessons from The E-Myth and The Innovator’s Dilemma to remind us that disruption always brings opportunity. The big takeaway? Industry 5.0 isn’t about replacing humans, it’s about empowering them. When used thoughtfully, automation can give people more time to focus on creativity, connection, and strategy. The future of marketing belongs to those who design technology that amplifies human potential.

Shay Howe is the Chief Strategy Officer at ActiveCampaign, where he drives the company’s corporate strategy, new product lines, corporate development, and strategic partnerships. He has previously held leadership positions across marketing, product, and design, and his product-led growth approach has helped scale the company into a global tech unicorn. Prior to ActiveCampaign, Shay was Vice President of Product at Belly and Yello, where he was responsible for product strategy and design. He previously led product teams at multiple high-growth companies, including Groupon, and has held in-residence roles as an advisor with Techstars, Lightbank, and Prota Venture portfolios. Shay’s passion for building teams extends outside of work, as he also serves as a mentor with Techstars and LongJump Ventures.

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In this episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin talk with Kevin's brother, Dr. Ross Albert, Medical Director of Hartford HealthCare at Home Hospice and Palliative Care, about one of the most unsettling trends in the digital age: health misinformation driven by AI. The conversation kicks off with a real case of a man hospitalized after following ChatGPT’s bad advice and spirals into the broader question of why people are so quick to trust AI over actual doctors.

Ross shares what it’s like when patients bring AI-generated “facts” into the exam room, how often he has to correct them, and what happens when politics, ideology, and misinformation collide with medicine. We get into the risks of fake medical citations, the line between bad advice and malpractice, and whether AI companies should be required to include stronger safeguards for health-related content. From hallucinations caused by bromide poisoning to the daily challenges doctors face correcting digital myths, this episode looks at what happens when artificial intelligence meets human vulnerability, and why it’s more important than ever to check your sources before taking medical advice from a chatbot.

Dr. Ross Albert, MD PhD is the Medical Director of the Hartford HealthCare at Home Hospice and Palliative Care teams. Over the last 15 years, he has practiced in primary care, hospital medicine, and palliative care roles across Connecticut. He holds board certifications in Family Medicine, Hospice and Palliative Medicine. Ross holds faculty positions with the UConn Internal Medicine and Quinnipiac Family Medicine residency programs. He has published numerous articles focused on evidence-based medical care for patients across the spectrum of disease.

Note: this episode is for informational purposes only. We talk about how medical misinformation spreads and what we can learn from it, but nothing you hear should be taken as medical advice. If you have questions about your health, talk to a doctor or another qualified healthcare professional. Also the views expressed by our guests are their own.

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This week we sit down with Ben Wilcox, a tech leader who straddles two high-stakes worlds as both Chief Technology Officer and Chief Information Security Officer at ProArch. Ben shares how a teenage interest in “link lists” and web hosting turned into a 25-year career at the intersection of innovation and cybersecurity. We talk about what it really means to balance the drive to move fast with the need to stay secure, and whether those two priorities can truly coexist under one roof.

From high-profile AI prompt injection attacks targeting Microsoft Copilot to the growing sophistication of indirect exploits that manipulate corporate systems through AI agents, Ben breaks down what’s happening behind the headlines and how companies can protect themselves. He also opens up about his passion for car racing, a world that mirrors his approach to tech: fast, calculated, and always built with safety in mind. Ben then closes with some simple advice: say yes to new things, whether it’s tackling the next wave of AI risks or trying something unexpected outside of work, curiosity and courage are what keep you ahead of the curve.

Ben Wilcox is the Chief Technology Officer and Chief Information Security Officer at ProArch, a global IT consulting firm helping enterprises secure their data and accelerate digital transformation through strategic Microsoft partnerships. With more than 25 years of experience in technology leadership, Ben brings a rare dual perspective—driving innovation while protecting the business from ever-evolving cyber threats. Known for making complex topics approachable, he’s passionate about helping organizations move fast without breaking things, preparing their infrastructure for AI, and building security into the foundation of innovation. When he’s not guiding enterprises through digital change, you might find him on a racetrack, channeling the same balance of speed and precision that defines his work in tech.

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Two Kevins are better than one on this week’s That Tech Pod, as Kevin Albert and Laura sit down with Silicon Valley legend Kevin Surace, the inventor and entrepreneur, who helped shape everything from the first smartphone to the first digital assistant, decades before Siri or Alexa.

Kevin S. shares stories from his time at General Magic, where he helped build Mary, the original voice-based AI assistant that could schedule meetings and manage calendars long before the world caught up. He explains how Moore’s Law and modern compute power turned AI from a niche tool for programmers into something everyone can use. The conversation goes into what AI really is (spoiler: it’s not intelligent, just really good at pattern matching) and whether tools like ChatGPT are helping us think faster or making us lazy. Kevin references an MIT report suggesting AI could dull our brains if we let it replace learning. but argues that if you use it to amplify your thinking, it can make you five or ten times more productive.

We also talk about AI and creativity, from digital actors like Tilly to musicians and artists using technology to speed up their process without losing originality. And when it comes to cyber risk and control, Kevin stays optimistic: this, he says, is the best time in history to be alive and creating. We wrap with practical advice, don’t stop at ChatGPT. Try Perplexity, Claude, and Gemini, and keep asking yourself: what can’t I do better with GenAI? This is a must listen!

Kevin Surace is a Silicon Valley innovator, serial entrepreneur, and self-described “futurist and AI disrupter.” Kevin has held leadership roles at companies including Appvance.ai, Serious Energy, Perfect Commerce, and General Magic, and earlier worked with tech pioneers like National Semiconductor, IBM, and Seiko-Epson—each chapter shaping his path as an inventor and Silicon Valley innovator. He has helped pioneer technologies that shaped the modern world, from the first smartphone and human-like AI assistants to soundproof drywall and energy-efficient building systems. With 93 worldwide patents and a track record that spans startups, sustainability, and AI, Kevin has been recognized as Inc. Magazine’s Entrepreneur of the Year, a CNBC Innovator of the Decade, and a World Economic Forum Tech Pioneer. He’s been featured on CNN, Forbes, Time, and Businessweek, and has keynoted events everywhere from TED to the U.S. Congress. He is known for blending deep technical insight with humor and storytelling. Outside of tech, he’s also an accomplished music director and Broadway producer—proving that creativity, whether in code or composition, drives everything he does.

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Today on the pod, Laura and Kevin talk with Jamie Bernard, Vice President of Solutions Strategy and Head of Global Solutions at Valiantys, about what it really takes to turn technical capabilities into business results. Jamie has spent her career at the crossroads of product strategy, innovation, and AI enablement, helping companies move beyond buzzwords to create solutions people actually buy.

Jamie shares her approach to “turning chaos into cashflow,” how to spot real value in a world full of AI hype, and what makes a service offering more than just a well-designed PowerPoint deck. From building structured go-to-market strategies to helping global firms shift from implementation partners to transformation advisors, Jamie brings a practical, sometimes blunt perspective on where tech innovation meets business reality.

Jamie Bernard, Vice President of Solutions Strategy and Head of Global Solutions at Valiantys, an Atlassian Platinum Solution Partner. With more than two decades of experience in product strategy, go-to-market design, and AI enablement, Jamie specializes in turning technical capabilities into scalable, sellable solutions. She has helped global IT services firms shift from implementation partners to transformation advisors by building structured offerings, commercial models, and vertical strategies across industries like automotive, financial services, and healthcare. Known for thriving in high-change environments, Jamie bridges the gap between technical delivery and business value, helping organizations translate vision into outcomes that drive growth.

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On this week's episode, Laura and Kevin talk with James Terry, Head of US Revenue at Indeed Flex, about how AI is reshaping the staffing industry.

James breaks down how Flex fits into the larger Indeed ecosystem and how technology is changing the way companies find, match, and retain talent. We get into the opportunities and risks that come with AI-driven recruiting, from reducing bias to making sure workers aren’t treated like data points. James also shares practical advice for anyone struggling to land a job in today’s evolving job market and offers a grounded view on how HR tech can still keep people at the center. This one is a must listen!

James Terry, the Head of US Revenue at Indeed Flex, has worked in the HR and staffing sector for over 15 years and holds an MBA from Carnegie Mellon University. Throughout his career, James has built expertise in strategy, sales, and leadership, with a focus on driving high-performing organizations. His experience has broadened through assignments in multiple countries, delivering results in collaboration with local teams.

James adopts a client-focused approach to understand unique business needs and design relevant solutions to fulfill their business requirements. By concisely and accurately presenting the Flex value to clients, he provides consultative solutions that are responsive to industry trends, new innovations, so ultimately the company's solutions ensure the highest level of client satisfaction. He is involved in the process from implementation through service delivery to ensure targets are being achieved and that contracts focus on continuous improvement.

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This week on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin are joined by Gilad Shoham, VP of Engineering at Bit, to talk about the future of AI-driven development, composable architecture, and the cyber risks that come with them. Gilad has spent his career at the intersection of startups, enterprise engineering, and open-source communities, and he brings a clear, practical perspective on how technology is evolving.

We start with what composable architecture actually means, why it matters, and how it’s shaping the way modern teams build software. From there, we get into AI’s growing role in development, how AI-generated and reused code could introduce vulnerabilities at scale, and whether AI will replace parts of a developer’s job or remain more of a “co-pilot.” Gilad also shares his take on the next big shift in developer workflows over the next five years. On the personal side, Gilad reflects on his path from Israel’s elite IDF programming unit, to founding startups, to leading teams at Sisense, and now scaling engineering at Bit. He talks about the lessons from his startup days that still influence how he leads, and how his experiences as a world chess champion and professional debater sneak into his everyday life.

To learn more about Gilad, check out gilad.dev
or connect with him on LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/shohamgilad. You can also explore Bit and try out Hope AI at bit.cloud.

Gilad Shoham is the VP of Engineering at Bit, where he leads the development team and focuses on composable architecture and AI-driven development. Before Bit, he was an architect and team lead at Sisense, and earlier founded several startups after graduating from an elite IDF programming unit. Gilad is a seasoned speaker, blogger, and podcaster who writes and talks about developer tools, composable software, AI code generation, and smart tech. Beyond his day job, he mentors startups and developers, contributes to open-source projects, and organizes two of Israel’s largest developer communities: MCP Israel and n8n Israel. A lifelong technologist, Gilad started coding as a child, won a world chess championship with his team at age 12, and has been a professional debater for more than a decade.

Bit.cloud is an open-source platform for building composable software. It lets developers break apps into independent, reusable components that can be shared, updated, and scaled across projects and teams. With Bit, teams can speed up development, reduce duplication, and adopt a more modular approach to software architecture.

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This week Kevin and Laura sit down with Uma Subramanian, Founder and CEO of Limitless Leaders, Inc. Uma shares her journey from leading initiatives at Microsoft to building a global platform dedicated to helping tech professionals unlock their leadership potential.

We explore what “limitless” leadership really means, the behaviors that often hold people back, and why she set out to build a program that looks different from traditional leadership training. Uma opens up about pushback she’s faced, lessons learned from her own failures, and how vulnerability shapes stronger leaders. The conversation also tackles today’s pressing challenges: navigating layoffs and uncertainty, addressing burnout, and building trust in an era of AI, deepfakes, and misinformation. Uma offers a candid perspective on what AI can and can’t replace in leadership coaching and what kind of leaders the next generation of tech professionals will need. Finally, Uma shares why investing in better leadership now is critical for the future of tech.

Uma Subramanian is on a mission to inspire and empower tech professionals to achieve their full leadership potential. As the Founder and CEO of Limitless Leaders, Inc., she has launched a global initiative that provides transformative learning experiences to professionals in tech and related fields.

With over two decades of experience in the tech industry, Uma has worked for one of the world's leading tech companies, Microsoft, where she led high-performing initiatives that drove impactful outcomes. Drawing on her own experiences, she has devoted her life to empowering others to achieve their full potential in all aspects of life. Uma is a leader committed to adding value to the lives of others. She is an Executive Director, certified coach, trainer, and speaker with Maxwell Leadership. She is also a founding Maxwell Leadership Corporate Facilitator Program member and a certified DISC Behavioral Analysis Consultant.

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This week, Laura and Kevin are joined by Mike Maynard, CEO and Managing Director of Napier, a B2B PR and marketing agency helping tech companies turn awareness into opportunities. Mike started his career as an electronics design engineer before moving into marketing, and that technical background still shapes how he builds and measures campaigns today.

We talk about what real success looks like beyond clicks and leads, how Napier decides which industries to focus on, and why some sectors spark more excitement than others. Mike also shares his perspective on AI in marketing, from copyright questions around image generation to how automation can coexist with campaigns that still feel human and engaging. And of course, we ask what keeps him curious about technology after decades at the intersection of engineering and marketing.

On the lighter side, Laura gets a little weird by asking Mike what number he’d be, and in the outro we get into the Dax Prescott/Jalen Carter spitting incident in the Week 1 NFL opening game, the Eagles’ sportsmanship (or lack of it, depending who you ask), and Laura’s campaign for a new Super Bowl halftime band. This episode has it all!

Mike Maynard is the CEO and Managing Director of the Napier Group, a $7M PR and marketing agency for B2B technology companies. Mike specializes in increasing the speed prospects travel through clients’ sales and marketing funnels, generating opportunities more quickly, building integrated campaigns that focus on the important tactics, whether clients need to increase awareness, generate leads or engage contacts to create opportunities.

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In this episode of That Tech Pod, we sit down with Josh Meier a Senior Generative AI Author at Pluralsight, where he helps professionals cut through the hype and learn how to use AI responsibly and effectively. With a background in software engineering, data engineering, and data science, Josh has built his career around translating complex ideas for both technical and non-technical audiences. We talk with Josh about what it really means to teach AI in a world where anyone can ask ChatGPT for an instant answer. He explains why structured learning still matters, how to separate casual tinkering from business-ready skills, and why human guidance is essential in a space that changes every few weeks. We also dig into some of the more controversial headlines—AI “lying” to users, models “trying to escape,” and facial recognition being used for both good and harm—and ask how society should weigh innovation against the risks of misuse. Finally, Josh shares his take on what the next big wave of AI innovation might look like. In the outtro, we discuss if we've finally made it because Laura saw someone in our swag "in the wild." You don't want to miss this episode!

Josh Meier (Meyer) is a Senior Generative AI Author at Pluralsight who helps professionals make sense of a fast-changing AI landscape. With a background in software engineering, data engineering, and data science, Josh has built a career around digging into data, uncovering insights, and translating complex concepts for both technical and non-technical audiences. Outside of work, he’s passionate about teaching and even finds inspiration in astronomy. In this conversation, we’ll dive into his work on generative AI, the hype around “AI gone rogue,” the unique challenges of AI security testing, and the ethical line between innovation and misuse.

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This week on the pod, we welcome Bobby Coppola, Chief Strategy Officer and Bryant Gauthier, Vice President of Legal Technology at PLUSnxt. Bobby shares how his path from big law to legal tech shaped his focus on client service and strategy, while Bryant returns to the show to talk about what drew him to PLUSnxt after his time at Celerity.

We break down what sets PLUSnxt apart in the crowded eDiscovery space, from helping clients separate hype from reality to focusing on innovation that actually makes life easier for corporations and law firms. The conversation turns to artificial intelligence in document review, obviously, where Bobby and Bryant highlight where adoption is real, where skepticism remains, and how GenAI is shifting client expectations. They also weigh in on whether the future lies in best-of-breed solutions or all-in-one platforms, sharing why no one really wants to manage a “franken-stack.” To wrap up, Bobby and Bryant share their takeaways from ILTACON and what trends they see shaping the next phase of legal tech.

Along the way, the group reminisces about the dot-com era, old chat rooms (ASL anyone?), answering machines, fax machines, the Movie Phone guy, and even the “Callin’ Oates” hotline. Definitely check this one out!

At the intersection of law, business, and technology, Bobby Coppola is focused on delivering industry leading legal technology and services to achieve the best outcome for his clients. He leverages his unique skill set based on his big law background and decades long-experience in the eDiscovery space to solve business and legal problems for companies and law firms globally. As Chief Strategy Officer at PLUSnxt, he is focused on the development of the company’s short- and long-term strategy from both an operational and growth perspective. The underpinning of his approach to client relationships is a fanatical focus on client service and a vision of always putting himself in his client’s position when developing a strategic plan for success.

Bryant Gauthier is Vice President of Legal Technology at PLUSnxt, where he advises law firms and corporate counsel on building efficient eDiscovery programs. With more than 20 years of experience, he helps clients leverage technology, processes, and analytics to reduce costs and manage risk across the EDRM. He has led the launch of eDiscovery departments using advanced tools such as CAL, TAR, AI, text-to-audio search, and image recognition to streamline document review and investigations. His background includes leadership roles at Huron Consulting, Skadden Arps, Buckley Sandler, Finnegan Henderson, and Xerox. Bryant supports legal teams in litigation, investigations, and regulatory matters, including SEC, DOJ, and CFPB inquiries, across industries such as banking, energy, healthcare, intellectual property, and technology. His expertise covers data identification, analysis, governance, privacy, and cross-border matters.

PLUSnxt is a legal technology and services provider that helps law firms and corporations manage complex eDiscovery challenges with a focus on practical innovation and client service. They emphasizes building solutions that cut through the noise of legal tech hype, offering tools and expertise that actually improve how legal teams review, analyze, and manage data. PLUSnxt brings a mix of deep technical knowledge and real-world legal experience to its clients. Their approach combines advanced technologies such as AI and analytics with a clear understanding of business and legal priorities, making them a trusted partner for organizations navigating litigation, investigations, and regulatory matters.

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We’re on vacation this week! While we recharge, enjoy this “best of” episode from our first year back in 2021. We’ll be back next week with a special new episode featuring PlusNXT!

Today (June 8, 2021) on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi sit down with Andrew Ochoa, CEO of Waverly Labs, to unpack the tech behind The Ambassador, a wearable translator built to remove language barriers. They dig into how real-time translation works, the hardware and software that power it, and where it shines in the real world, from travel and classrooms to business meetings. Andrew shares what accuracy really means, the tradeoffs between speed and quality, how the team thinks about privacy, and what might be next for multilingual communication.

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On today's episode of That Tech Pod, we sit down with Gino Ferrand, CEO and Founder of TECLA. Born in Lima, Peru and raised in the U.S., Gino’s journey spans continents, cultures, and companies. He shares how those experiences shaped his perspective on technology, risk, and data security.

We dig into the story behind TECLA, which started with a simple insight, Latin America’s deep pool of untapped tech talent, and grew into a platform that has helped U.S. companies worth billions scale their engineering teams. Gino explains how he balances innovation with fairness in building TECLA’s AI-driven talent-matching platform, and what it takes to earn trust when remote developers handle mission-critical and sensitive work.

We also explore the broader context: how shifting immigration policies affect demand for nearshore talent, the challenges of protecting intellectual property and sensitive data across borders, and the future of global tech collaboration. Gino closes with what’s next for him and TECLA as they continue to bridge talent gaps with security and innovation in mind.

Gino Ferrand is the CEO and Founder of TECLA, a nearshore staffing company that connects U.S. tech firms with top software engineers across Latin America. Born in Lima, Peru, he moved to the U.S. at 12 and learned early what it meant to start over, build from scratch, and stay relentless—values shaped by his family of entrepreneurs. From launching an e-commerce jewelry brand in high school to creating a social network for college founders, Gino has always been driven to build.

After college, he returned to Lima and saw the untapped potential of Latin American tech talent, sparking the idea for TECLA. Over the past 12 years, he’s helped companies worth more than $10 billion scale their engineering teams while continuing to stay hands-on as a coder and architect of TECLA’s AI-driven talent-matching platform. Based in Seattle, Gino remains committed to his belief that talent is everywhere—it just needs the right platform to thrive.

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This week on the pod, Kevin and Laura talk with Bree Flemings, CEO and co-founder of Jem Social, about building a tech platform at the intersection of influencer marketing, data privacy, and the ever-shifting world of digital media.

Bree shares how DJing in college led her to the world of content creation, and what ultimately drove her to start Jem Social, a platform designed to help brands connect with the right influencers at scale. We talk about the evolution of marketing, the role of AI, and the balance between automation and authenticity. Bree also gets into how Jem is adapting to changing ad trends, why community-based marketing is on the rise, and how she’s thinking about data privacy, moderation, and the future of trust in the creator economy. She also shares about the challenges of user acquisition, retention, and what’s next for Jem Social.

Bree Flemings is the CEO and co-founder of Jem Social, a SaaS platform that helps consumer brands easily find and partner with influencers who match their target audience, location, and budget. Jem is backed by Nexcubed, Bank of America, and NC Invest.

She is a results-driven Founder, Product marketing Manager and Project Manager with a proven track record in delivering complex projects on time and within budget. She is customer obsessed. Highly skilled in leading cross-functional teams, managing project scope, and ensuring customer satisfaction. Her experience spans everything from launching market-ready products to managing stakeholder relationships and driving agile development. Simply put: she knows how to take an idea and make it real.

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This week Laura and Kevin discuss one of the most pressing threats in tech today: AI voice cloning. They’re joined by Alex Quilici, CEO of YouMail and a longtime leader in telecom security, to break down how generative AI is being weaponized for scams and what can be done about it.

Alex shares how tools that used to need hours of audio can now mimic your voice from a voicemail greeting or a TikTok clip. He explains how scammers have become more sophisticated than ever, targeting different demographics with tailored tactics, texting one person, calling another, and emailing a third with a fake callback number. He also walks us through why voice authentication, once considered cutting-edge, may now be obsolete. The episode covers everything from how to help your grandma avoid IRS impersonators, to what businesses like banks and law firms should be doing today to avoid being the next deepfake headline.

If you’ve ever picked up a call from an unknown number or left a voicemail, this episode is for you. Alex gives clear advice for individuals and organizations on how to stay a step ahead and why it’s time we rethink how we prove who we are over the phone.

Alex Quilici is an entrepreneur with over 25+ years of experience in the tech industry. Holding a PhD in Computer Science from UCLA, his expertise spans telecommunications and security, boasting over 30 patents in these fields.

Today, Alex holds the title of CEO of YouMail, a totally free robocall blocking app and call protection service for mobile phones, since 2007. Alex leads a globally distributed team spanning seven countries, driving the company's mission to enhance communication safety and effectiveness. Under his direction, YouMail launched the Robocall Index in 2015, offering valuable insights into the landscape of robocalls in the United States, a testament to his commitment to consumer protection and technological advancement. Alex’s influence extends beyond his company, serving on advisory boards and recognized as a national authority on robocalls by regulatory bodies and media alike.

Prior to his leadership at YouMail, Alex co-founded and was CEO of Quack, a startup later acquired by AOL, where he served as Vice President and Chief Product Officer, significantly contributing to the growth of AOL's voice services division. He also served as a professor of Electrical Engineering at the University of Hawaii at Manoa. Known for his innovative approach, he has a reputation for bridging advanced research with practical user needs, particularly leveraging artificial intelligence to solve software challenges.

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This week on the pod, we sit down with e-discovery veteran John Thacher to get real about GenAI. We talk about what’s working, what’s failing, and what everyone needs to understand before jumping on the hype train. With over two decades in the trenches, John has seen it all, and he’s not shy about separating substance from noise.

We get into why so many GenAI roles are being created and eliminated in the same year, and how legal tech leaders can avoid that cycle. John walks us through what implementing GenAI actually looks like on the ground, including the practical challenges and real-world results from some of his most recent review projects. He also shares where GenAI still falls short, especially in legal workflows that demand nuance and precision.

If you're thinking about pivoting into this space, John has advice on what skills matter most, what’s becoming obsolete, and why this is both an exciting and risky time to make a move. He also gets candid about his next chapter and why now’s the time to hire him. (Seriously, someone hire this guy!) Whether you're GenAI-curious or already knee-deep in implementation, this episode is a must-listen for anyone trying to figure out what it really takes to make GenAI work in legal and eDiscovery.

John Thacher has over 24 years of experience in e-Discovery, where he's known for building high-performing teams and driving business growth through innovation. He currently leads BDO’s review program, which he helped launch and scale 5x in just three years. John has been instrumental in transitioning clients to Machine Learning as the default review method and recently completed a successful Gen AI-based workflow review for several global manufacturers in electronics, aviation, and automotive sectors. He’s a vocal advocate for using Gen AI to streamline reviews and reduce costs.

Before BDO, John spent eight years at Ricoh managing major review projects, including the MDL Opiates Committee review, which involved 565 attorneys across eight locations. Earlier in his career, he helped launch Orrick’s Global Operations Center while at De Novo Legal, expanding it from a small pilot team into a 200+ attorney review center. At Peak Discovery, he created fixed-price review products that led to a 12x business growth and eventual acquisition by Techlaw Solutions.

John earned a joint JD/MBA from Albany Law School and Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute, graduating in the top 10% of both programs. He also spent five years as an Assistant Professor of Management, teaching business law, strategy, and HR. With deep expertise across the entire e-discovery lifecycle—from document collection to privilege logs—John continues to develop long-term, AI-powered solutions for clients seeking smarter, more efficient review strategies.

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In this week’s episode, we chat with Haleh Shoa, Founder and CEO of Picturli, to explore the complicated world of digital memory. Haleh shares how her own family’s experiences inspired her to create a service that turns photo chaos into order, curating, organizing, and preserving personal archives for the long haul.

We discuss what it really means to “own” your photos in an age where most of us rely on platforms like Google or iCloud. Who controls your images once they’re uploaded? Do people even realize what they’re giving up for convenience?

From data privacy and facial recognition to emotional overload and the value of legacy, we dig into why your photos deserve more thought than a quick swipe. Laura shares the story of a woman who won $10,000 just for reading the fine print, reminding us how often we overlook the details that matter most. We also touch on the rising idea of digital inheritance and the need to designate a legacy contact, the habit of constant documenting, and the risks of losing meaningful memories in a flood of selfies and screenshots. For families who’ve experienced war, migration, or loss, preserving visual history can mean everything. Haleh brings a thoughtful and practical perspective on the tools, habits, and mindset we need to protect our memories and why now is the time to start.

Haleh Shoa is the Founder and CEO of Picturli: a photo organization, curation, archiving, and design studio that helps families, individuals, and businesses transform their chaotic mess of photos into one clear and cohesive digital library. Haleh and her team meticulously organize their clients’ photo collections into a searchable, secure, and easily sharable photo archive.

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This week on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin sit down with Emily Chase Coleman, a leading voice in higher ed analytics, to talk about how data, AI, and shifting policy are transforming the college experience.

We kick things off with a look at predictive analytics in enrollment and financial aid. Emily shares the most common misconceptions schools still have about AI, and how generative tools are forcing colleges to rethink academic integrity, fairness, and even the rules around who gets to use AI, and when.

As the conversation turns to policy and student loans, Emily weighs in on recent headlines about aid cuts and loan forgiveness battles. She explains how these changes are already affecting how institutions plan for the future, and why equity needs to be at the center of it. We also talk about cybersecurity and student privacy. With ransomware attacks on the rise and more schools moving to the cloud, Emily talks about how institutions can balance being data-driven with protecting student information. Spoiler: most aren’t investing enough in cyber defenses. We also look ahead to the next decade. What does the “smart campus” of 2035 look like? How can colleges move from being data-aware to truly data-informed? And if Emily could change just one thing about how universities use data today, what would it be?

Emily Chase Coleman is a visionary in higher education analytics, reshaping how institutions use data to drive strategy. As the Co-founder and CEO of HAI Analytics Inc., she helps colleges and universities make informed, data-backed decisions about enrollment, financial aid, and student success. With over 20 years in higher education leadership and a PhD in Social Psychology and Statistics from Cornell, Emily is uniquely positioned to bridge the gap between data science and institutional strategy.

At HAI Analytics, Emily is leading the charge in making predictive modeling and data visualization tools more accessible to university decision-makers. Her team has developed an innovative software-with-service platform, empowering institutions to use analytics for long-term sustainability without relying on full-time consultants. Emily is also a strong advocate for education reform, challenging outdated models in admissions and financial aid. She critiques the high-price, high-discount tuition system for exacerbating socioeconomic disparities and pushes for test-optional admissions to promote equity in college access.

Beyond higher education, Emily champions women in leadership and tech, sharing insights from her journey as a female founder in edtech and data analytics. She is passionate about increasing representation in STEM and creating pathways for women entrepreneurs.

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In this week's episode, Laura and Kevin sit down with Evan J. Schwartz, Chief Innovation Officer at AMCS Group, to explore where AI is actually making a difference and where it’s doing real harm. From logistics and sustainability to law enforcement and digital identity, we dig into how AI is being used (and misused) in ways that affect millions of lives.

We talk about a real-world case Evan worked on involving predictive analytics in law enforcement, and the dangers of trusting databases more than people. If someone hacks your digital footprint or plants fake records, how do you prove you're not the person your data says you are? We dive into the Karen Read case, the ethics of “precrime” models like in Minority Report, and a story where AI helped thieves trick a bank into wiring $40 million. The common thread? We’ve put a lot of faith in data... sometimes more than it deserves.

With the EU AI Act now passed and other countries tightening regulation, Evan offers advice on how U.S.-based companies should prepare for a future where AI governance isn’t optional. He also breaks down “dark AI” and whether we’re getting close to machines making life-altering decisions without humans in the loop. Whether you're in tech, law, policy, or just trying to understand how AI might impact your own rights and identity, this conversation pulls back the curtain on how fast things are moving and what we might be missing.

Evan J. Schwartz brings over 35 years of experience in enterprise tech and digital transformation. At AMCS Group, he leads innovation efforts focused on AI, data science, and sustainability in the logistics and resource recovery industries. He’s held executive roles in operations, architecture, and M&A, and also teaches graduate courses in AI, cybersecurity, and project management. Evan serves on the Forbes Tech Council and advises at Jacksonville University. He’s also the author of People, Places, and Things, an Amazon best-seller on ERP implementation. His work blends technical depth with a sharp focus on ethics and real-world impact.

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In this episode of That Tech Pod, Kevin and Laura dig into the Gemini Credit Card, a flashy, crypto-backed rewards card created by the Winklevoss twins and issued by WebBank and Mastercard. Is it a smart move for crypto enthusiasts or just another fintech gimmick?

We break down the card’s history, perks, and pitfalls: you’ll earn up to 4% back in crypto on everyday purchases, choose from 60+ cryptocurrencies, and enjoy no annual fees. But while the concept is solid, users report some real concerns including slow customer service, transaction issues, and tricky tax implications. We compare Gemini to the Chase Sapphire Reserve and debate whether instant crypto rewards outweigh the lack of travel perks and occasional service headaches. We read actual user reviews, share personal experiences, and reflect on the broader trend of crypto creeping into everyday finance.

Is the Gemini card a useful tool for passive crypto investing or a volatile ride best avoided? Tune in for the full breakdown. Plus and hear about that time Laura got unlimited coffee and went to a Ja Rule party thanks to another infamous credit card, Magnesis.

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Today is a special episode. This is our 250th episode!

To celebrate, Laura and Kevin sit down with Dikshant Dave, a three-time founder and current CEO of Zigment, to explore the next frontier in AI, Agentic AI. Dikshant breaks down what sets Zigment apart in the crowded marketing tech world and explains how Agentic AI systems do more than just automate, they learn, adapt, and make decisions on the fly.

The conversation touches on his journey through multiple startups, the challenges of balancing innovation with privacy, and the industries where AI is just getting started. Dikshant shares sharp takes on job displacement, the ethics of extracting personal data, and what transparency in AI really looks like. He also dives into a big question: Can empathy be automated? And should it be? Plus, hear what kind of startup he’d build next, and who he’d begrudgingly? choose to be stuck in an elevator with.

It’s a thoughtful, funny, and wide-ranging conversation with someone who’s not just building tech, but rethinking how it fits into the real world.

Dikshant Dave is the CEO of Zigment, a marketing automation platform built around Agentic AI—intelligent systems that go beyond automation to actively learn, adapt, and make decisions across every customer touchpoint. With Zigment, he’s redefining how businesses engage with customers by combining proactive AI with human insight to drive measurable impact: higher lead conversion, smarter workflows, and stronger ROI. A three-time founder with a background in startups like CureJoy and Funstar, Dikshant has made a career out of pushing the boundaries of what tech can do. His latest work focuses on the rise of AI agents, the future of personalization at scale, and how businesses can tap into AI without losing the human touch. He's also passionate about using AI for good, most recently through Zigment’s nonprofit partnership with Give.org.

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On this episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin chat with Alex Heublein, President of Culture and Innovation at Netsurit, about what it actually takes for small and midsize businesses to modernize their tech without getting overwhelmed. Alex has spent time at major companies like IBM and Oracle, but he makes it clear why working with SMBs is often more rewarding: they’re nimble, adaptable, and ready to try new things, as long as those things make sense.

They dig into Netsurit’s approach to “Innovate as a Service,” a subscription-style model built around co-innovation, outcomes, and a mindset shift from traditional consulting. Alex also shares his framework for helping clients navigate the noise around AI, how to pick the right use cases, and why some businesses are better off waiting before diving in.

The conversation touches on everything from AI ethics and return on investment to why culture and tech have to evolve together. Plus, there’s a lighthearted trivia round on the inventors behind the internet, some talk about the future of augmented reality glasses, and a few laughs along the way. If you’ve ever wondered how to actually apply AI without just chasing trends, or what makes an IT partner worth working with, this one’s worth a listen.

Alex Heublein is the President of Culture and Innovation at Netsurit, where he focuses on helping small and midsize businesses navigate digital transformation, cybersecurity, and operational growth through practical, forward-thinking technology solutions. With a strong background in both business strategy and technical leadership, Alex has held senior executive roles at major tech companies including IBM, HP, Oracle, and Red Hat. His experience spans innovation strategy, IT modernization, cloud services, and organizational culture development. At Netsurit, he leads efforts to blend culture with technology, ensuring that companies not only adopt new tools but also build the internal mindset and processes to make them work.

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In this episode, Laura and Kevin sit down with Bob Bodily, founder of Odin.fun, to talk about the wild ride of memecoins, Bitcoin's evolving role in the crypto ecosystem, and what the future might hold for decentralized tech. Bob breaks down how Odin.fun is rethinking the Bitcoin experience, from instant token creation to a gasless, wallet-agnostic interface that’s pulling in tens of thousands of users.

We discuss the growing risks in crypto including wallet drains, scams, and design flaws, and ask what platforms can do to protect users without killing the fun. Bob shares his thoughts on whether the rise of meme-driven platforms is a cultural shift or just another hype cycle, and weighs in on Bitcoin’s potential to support more complex applications without abandoning its core stability.

There’s also plenty of banter: Laura's optimism, Kevin’s crypto skepticism, and Bob’s grounded take on what’s real, what’s broken, and what could be next. Whether you’re a degenerate trader or just crypto-curious, this one gives you a smart, honest look at what’s going on under the hood.

Bob Bodily is the founder of Odin.fun, which pioneered instant memecoin creation and trading on Bitcoin and offers 2-second finality.

With Odin.fun, Bob has shown what’s possible with Bitcoin and helped silence the narrative that the network isn’t fast enough. After the first two months of operation, the platform amassed more than 60K users, 3000+ BTC in trading volume, and 15k+ tokens created, with 150+ hitting bonded status. Unlike Solana’s model, Odin.fun offers a gasless experience through chain abstraction tech, enables logins with any Bitcoin wallet, and uses a single-canister system to streamline operations. It’s a fresh take on Bitcoin’s capabilities, hinting at the broader potential for programmability on the network, which Bob can highlight to underscore the capabilities of the Bitcoin-native Layer 0 interoperability protocol.

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On this episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin sit down with Alexander Patrushev, Head of Product for AI/ML at Nebius, a European cloud platform focused on machine learning infrastructure. Kicking things off, we unpack the buzz around China’s fully AI-powered “Agent Hospital,” raising questions about what role AI should play in medicine. Laura also shares a personal rant about navigating the healthcare system in search of real answers.

Then, Alex joins from Luxembourg to explain what Nebius does, who it's built for, and how it helps companies tackle ML workloads. He breaks down the common mistakes teams make when launching ML projects and why success depends more on people and processes than just tech. The conversation also goes into whether companies should host their own LLMs or use pay-per-token APIs, and how to approach that decision. Looking ahead, Alex challenges the idea that AI is inherently hard and shares what businesses should really be focusing on, from smarter software to evolving hardware needs, as AI infrastructure continues to grow. It's a thoughtful, practical look at the future of AI from someone who builds the tools to power it.

Alexander Patrushev is an experienced IT leader with over 15 years in the industry, including the past six focused on artificial intelligence. He currently serves as Head of Product for AI/ML at Nebius, a European cloud platform designed for building and deploying machine learning workloads. Based in Luxembourg, Alexander is known for his practical approach to solving real-world challenges faced by AI practitioners. He’s especially focused on delivering user-centric, innovative solutions, and believes strongly in the importance of in-house R&D to drive product excellence and stay ahead in a fast-moving space.

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In this episode, Laura and Kevin sit down with Fredrik Nilsson, Vice President of the Americas for Axis Communications, to talk about the intersection of surveillance technology, cybersecurity, and ethical innovation.

Fredrik reflects on his rare 30-year tenure with Axis, explaining how a strong company culture and a constant focus on innovation have kept him committed. He shares his journey from Sweden to the U.S., noting how working in both regions has influenced his leadership style, bringing together Sweden’s emphasis on collaboration with the U.S. drive for growth and execution.

For listeners unfamiliar with Axis, Fredrik explains that the company pioneered the shift from analog CCTV to digital network video and continues to lead by developing open, scalable, and secure surveillance solutions. What sets Axis apart, he says, is their long-term approach to partnerships, transparency, and quality, plus a strong emphasis on ethical technology use. Looking ahead, Fredrik is excited about how AI and machine learning are transforming surveillance, not just for traditional security purposes but across sectors like retail, healthcare, and transportation. He shares how Axis is applying analytics in creative ways, from optimizing store layouts to improving patient safety in hospitals.

The conversation also tackles serious topics around cybersecurity and privacy. Fredrik acknowledges the tension between advancing surveillance capabilities and the risks they can bring. He discusses Axis’ approach to building trust with customers, through transparency, strict data handling policies, and a focus on responsible AI use. In the face of increasing threats like state-sponsored cyberattacks and deepfakes, Axis is investing heavily in secure systems and client education.

And, as a lighter note, Laura kicks things off by sharing her unique connection to Sweden: buying wildlife calendars on Kickstarter from a guy who photographs animals in his yard.

Vice President of the Americas for Axis Communications, Fredrik Nilsson oversees the company’s operations in North and South America and serves on the global management team. In his 25+ year’s at Axis, he has undertaken various roles in both Sweden and the United States and has been instrumental in leading the surveillance industry shift from analog closed-circuit television to network video. Since assuming responsibility for the Americas in 2003, revenues in the region have grown from $20M to $1B, due in part to a focus on increasing Axis' presence in the market by opening more than sixteen Axis Experience Centers throughout the region.

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This week on the pod, Laura and Kevin discuss what’s shaping up to be the biggest Bitcoin event of the year: Bitcoin 2025, happening May 27–29 at The Venetian in Las Vegas. With over 30,000 attendees and 400+ speakers, it’s more than a conference - it’s a full-on Bitcoin takeover.

We are joined by Justin Doochin, one of the conference organizer. He says to expect a mix of Bitcoiners, developers, investors, policymakers, and curious newcomers. People come to network, share ideas, and get a pulse on where Bitcoin is headed. This year’s “Code & Country” track kicks off Industry Day, focusing on the intersection of policy, technology, and innovation. Laura asks if Trump will show, Justin shares that while President Donald Trump isn't on the speaker list, his sons Eric Trump and Donald Trump Jr. are confirmed to speak about capitalism, Bitcoin, and economic sovereignty. Ross Ulbricht, the founder of Silk Road, will make his first public appearance since being released from prison earlier this year. He’s set to speak at the conference, marking a significant moment for many in the Bitcoin community.

The conference aims to set a Guinness World Record for the most Bitcoin point-of-sale transactions in eight hours. It’s a bold move to showcase Bitcoin’s potential as a daily-use currency. This year's event is set to be high-energy, with a mix of serious discussions and celebratory moments. It’s a place where ideas are exchanged, and the future of Bitcoin is debated and envisioned. Laura also speculates if Bitcoin Hit $150K or $200K in 2025.

Justin is offering our listeners a 30% discount on all Bitcoin 2025 passes. Use the code: TECHPOD30 at checkout: https://bm.b.tc/TECHPOD30.

For more details and to register for the conference, visit the official conference site: https://b.tc/conference/2025.

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In this week's episode, Laura and Kevin sit down with Susana Cabrera, Global Head of Channel and Alliances at Parsec Automation, for a conversation that bridges manufacturing, technology, and strategic leadership. With a career spanning tech giants like SAP and CISCO, Susana shares how her path led to Parsec and why the company’s mission to modernize manufacturing resonated with her.

Susana breaks down what Parsec does to empower manufacturers through digital transformation and explores why innovation in this space is not just necessary - it’s overdue. She goes into the real-world applications of AI in industrial settings, separating the hype from the real opportunities. For a deeper dive on that topic, check out Parsec’s blog post: What AI Can Do for Manufacturers Right Now.

The episode also tackles big-picture topics like global supply chain disruptions, shifting manufacturing strategies, and the technologies that will reshape partner ecosystems in the years ahead. Plus, the we discuss the controversial topic of bagged olives (spoiler: Susana’s a fan), and the conversation wraps with a powerful message: let technology be an enabler, not a barrier—just don’t forget that humans still drive the business.

As Parsec's Global Head of Channel and Alliances, Susana Cabrera leverages her nearly 30 years of experience in business development, channel teams, and professional services to drive growth and innovation. Having previously worked at companies like SAP and CISCO, Susana excels at aligning partner strategies with customer needs, ensuring that clear communication and collaboration lead to measurable business outcomes. Driven by a passion for strategy, execution, and delivering business outcomes, Susana thrives at the intersection of partner-led growth, innovation, and operational excellence.

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On this week’s episode, Laura and Kevin sit down with Nandan Nayampally, the Chief Commercial Officer at Baya, to discuss the shifting landscape of intelligent computing and the hidden challenges behind AI innovation.

Nandan kicks things off by demystifying what Baya actually does, solving the critical problem of data movement, a growing bottleneck that traditional compute-focused architectures can't keep up with. With a rich background that includes scaling Arm’s processor business from $200M to billions and playing key roles at AMD, Amazon (Alexa), and neuromorphic AI startups like Brainchip and Tenstorrent, Nandan offers a unique perspective on where hardware truly sits at the heart of today's AI revolution. He unpacks one of the most misunderstood aspects of AI development: while flashy models grab the headlines, it's the hardware, and even more critically, how data flows across chips, that will define the next generation of intelligent systems. As he explains, we’re moving from a compute problem to a data movement problem, and Baya is right at the center of that inflection point. Laura and Kevin also get Nandan’s expert map of the chip landscape, from Nvidia’s dominant position to Intel, Arm, AWS, and where Baya fits in. Spoiler alert: Baya isn’t trying to out-muscle the big players but to fundamentally enhance and rethink architectures for a world driven by AI at scale.

Nandan also talks about the next big frontier as a hybrid between cloud and edge AI, with massive commercial opportunities tied to how efficiently and securely we can process data wherever it’s generated. He offers a thoughtful, non-political perspective on how escalating tariffs on Chinese goods could impact the semiconductor supply chain, AI innovation, and global data privacy. Along the way, the conversation touches on chiplets, SoC (system-on-chip) trends, and, what he really thinks about Nvidia.

If you care about the future of AI, semiconductors, or where the real innovation is happening behind the scenes, this is a must-listen episode.

Nandan Nayampally is the Chief Commercial Officer at Baya that runs Product
Management, Marketing Communication, Business Development, Sales and Strategic Alliances. Nandan has consistently been passionate about disruptive technologies and being in the eye of the storm in semiconductor inflection points. While he’s had various start up stints in neuromorphic AI at Brain chip, Tenstorrent and Denali Software, a major part of Nandan’s career involved growing Arm’s processor business from $200M to into the $billions, and expanding its reach from the mobile and consumer markets to automotive, networking infrastructure, data center and AI. During his time, Arm’s customers shipped more than a 150B process-based chips. He also had meaningful stints at AMD and Amazon on scaling Alexa into 3rd party devices.

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This week, Kevin and Laura sit down with seasoned entrepreneur and executive leader Haresh Bhungalia. With over two decades of experience building, scaling, and exiting successful companies, Haresh shares the journey that led him from a paper route to leading Casepoint, a major player in the eDiscovery space.

Haresh walks us through Casepoint’s growth story, the biggest challenges he faced scaling the company, and the factors that drove its success. We dive into Casepoint’s recent merger with OPEXUS, backed by Thoma Bravo, and discuss why Haresh chose this moment, after years of resisting outside funding, to make the move. He also opens up about stepping down as CEO, choosing new leadership, and what's next for him, hinting at everything from startup investing to maybe even sailing off into the sunset. Beyond his personal story, Haresh offers powerful insights into the future of legal tech, how leaders can stay aligned with customer needs, and his best advice for founders scaling teams or navigating the tricky balance between aggressive growth and strategic reflection. Plus, Kevin and Laura share their dreams of running an AI company or a grocery store.

You won’t want to miss this conversation packed with leadership lessons, well-earned advice, and a glimpse into the future of eDiscovery.

Haresh Bhungalia is a seasoned entrepreneur and CEO with over 20 years of executive leadership experience. He has a proven track record of building, scaling, and successfully exiting businesses. As a strategic leader, Haresh is dedicated to driving customer growth, enhancing engagement, and fostering a company culture based on trust, transparency, and mutual respect. He strongly believes that prioritizing the employee experience leads to superior customer outcomes and, ultimately, greater value creation. His most recent exit was Casepoint, an enterprise data discovery platform, which was successfully sold to private equity firm Thoma Bravo.

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This week on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin sit down with tech veteran and AI thought leader Ken Gavranovic, CEO of Product Genius, for a lively and insightful conversation that spans AI, ethics, innovation and pop culture.

Ken opens up about his challenging childhood, sharing how it sparked a passion for technology and a desire to build tools that could truly make a difference, much like the kid in the movie War Games. From early fumbles in fax software that made others millions but netted him nothing to working with tech giants like Disney and 7-Eleven, Ken walks us through his evolution into the AI space and why he believes AI will have the most substantial impact on humanity.

We talk about ethical AI and data privacy, especially when it comes to children and younger audiences, how to leverage AI insights without drowning in data and the key contrasts in AI adoption between big corporations and smaller businesses. Laura and Ken geek out about functional health, from UV-cap water bottles to proactive blood testing to the very real fears (ahem, Laura) about robot uprisings from a tangent on the movie Smart House, the series Cassandra and The Terminator movies. Plus, we discuss recycled toilet paper and sustainability with a shoutout to Who Gives a Crap, and wrap things up with a peek into Ken’s Amazon best-seller, Business Breakthrough 3.0, a must-read for any leader navigating digital transformation. Tune in for an episode that’s smart, human, and just the right amount of tech-weird.

Ken Gavranovic is a global keynote speaker, a seasoned technology executive, and the CEO of Product Genius, where he leads the development of AI-powered tools that transform real-time data into actionable customer insights, driving service improvements and operational efficiency. With over two decades of experience, Ken has helped businesses—from startups to global brands like Disney World and 7-Eleven—leverage cutting-edge tech to achieve measurable results. He has led 18 successful exits, 35 mergers and acquisitions, and an IPO, and has held key executive roles at New Relic and Cox Automotive. A global keynote speaker and member of Thinkers50 and the Forbes Council, Ken is also a co-author of the Amazon best-seller Business Breakthrough 3.0, a practical guide for leaders navigating digital transformation and scaling operations.

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In our final segment of our Legalweek series, Laura and Kevin hit the floor to chat with two folks from Verbit - Matan Barak, Head of Legal Products and JP Son, Chief Legal Officer, for an insightful dive into the evolution of AI in legal transcription and the broader implications for the industry.

We first hear their origin story, being founded with the mission to make transcription more efficient, accessible, and intelligent. They share how the company emerged from the need for faster, more accurate transcription services, especially in high-stakes environments like the legal world. As the conversation turns toward AI, we learn how machine learning is transforming transcription, enhancing turnaround times, enabling real-time insights, and supporting legal professionals with features like inconsistency detection, intelligent search, and summarization through Verbit's Legal Visor.

But with great power comes great responsibility. they address growing concerns around deepfakes and misinformation, explaining how Verbit ensures the authenticity and accuracy of its AI-assisted transcriptions with rigorous quality checks and compliance protocols. Matan sheds light on how Verbit’s models are trained to understand regional dialects and legal-specific jargon, ensuring that nuance is never lost, even in complex, technical discussions. The pair also tackle the hot topic: Will AI replace human court reporters?

This episode is a must-listen for anyone interested in the intersection of legal tech, AI, and the future of court reporting.

Matan Barak is the Head of Legal Products at Verbit, with over a decade of experience leading AI-driven solutions to market. He played a key role in conceptualizing and developing Verbit Legal Visor, a real-time intelligence platform for litigators that enhances legal professionals' efficiency with AI-powered insights, including inconsistency detection, intelligent search, and summaries to help secure better case outcomes.

JP Son has served as Verbit’s Chief Legal Officer since December 2021, with responsibility for the company’s global legal affairs, including in the areas of regulatory compliance, privacy, intellectual property, commercial, M&A, governance and employment. Previously, Son was Vice President, Legal at Vonage Holdings Corp. (VG), where he was responsible for global regulatory, privacy and intellectual property matters. He also served as lead counsel for Vonage’s API Platform group. Prior to Vonage, Son was in private practice at a global law firm based in New York. Son received his undergraduate degree in computer science from Cornell University and his J.D. from Columbia Law School.

Verbit is a verbal intelligence platform leveraged by 3,000+ businesses and institutions. Our suite of voice AI solutions are used to capture everyday exchanges, better understand the information shared and apply these insights in daily work. Verbit was founded in 2017 in Tel Aviv on the insight that attorneys were spending too much time and money on inaccurate transcripts. The team then uncovered how many more industries could benefit from access to accurate transcripts. By combining automatic speech recognition technology (ASR) with the expert human transcribers, Verbit has transformed a $30B transcription industry. The company has grown into one of the world’s largest transcription and closed captioning providers with offices in the US, Canada, UK, and Israel.

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In the second episode of our Legalweek series, Laura and Kevin sit down with Matt Berry and Greg Anderson from QuikData, a company challenging the status quo in the legal tech space. Matt shares QuikData’s mission to offer low-cost, on-premise eDiscovery solutions, bucking the industry’s shift toward cloud-only platforms. Alongside him, Greg, VP of Product and Client Services, brings his 20+ years of legal tech experience to the conversation, offering insights into how QuikData prioritizes security, affordability, and convenience for corporations and law firms.

We learn about their origin story, tracing back to their first venture, Lateral Data, and the development of Viewpoint, an eDiscovery platform ultimately acquired by Xerox. Matt and Greg discuss how those early experiences shaped their vision for QuikData. We also discuss the role of AI in the industry, how it’s reshaping workflows, and QuikData’s practical approach to leveraging AI to enhance, not replace human decision-making in complex legal processes. This episode delivers a refreshing perspective on innovation, security, and the power of going against the grain.

Matt Berry is an attorney, serial entrepreneur, and co-founder of QuikData, a platform rethinking how legal teams manage eDiscovery and secure collaboration. Before QuikData, Matt co-founded Lateral Data, where he and his team developed Viewpoint, an end-to-end eDiscovery solution focused on on-premises and enterprise deployments. Earlier in his career, Matt co-founded Diamed with his wife Simone—a mail delivery medical supply company that served over 30,000 patients nationwide with diabetes testing supplies and related products. A graduate of Rice University, Matt is also a former Division I tennis player and still finds time to stay active on the court. His diverse background across industries informs his thoughtful approach to building tools that solve real-world problems.

Greg Anderson serves as the Vice President of Product and Client Services at QuikData. With over twenty years of experience in legal technology, he specializes in the design and application of E-Discovery solutions, enjoying the challenge of problem solving by leveraging both traditional and non-traditional approaches to address complex or unique problems. His background includes key product management roles at Lateral Data and Conduent, and prior to joining QuikData, he led an E-Discovery Project Management team at Norton Rose Fulbright, where he focused on multinational matters.

QuikData is a software development company specializing in eDiscovery and data room solutions for legal service providers, law firms, corporate legal departments, and financial institutions. Founded in 2016 and headquartered in Houston, Texas, QuikData offers intuitive and powerful tools designed to streamline complex legal data management tasks. ​Their flagship product, Quik E-Discovery, is an end-to-end platform that facilitates the entire electronic discovery process, including data processing, analysis, review, and production.

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In this week’s episode, Land and Kevin take you inside Legalweek 2025 for a no-holds-barred recap of the biggest legal tech event of the year. We break down the good—the insightful sessions, the exciting product launches, and the incredible people we met. We also cover the bad—from conference logistics to some less-than-stellar booth experiences. And of course, we get into the ugly—including the controversial decision to move Legalweek from its long-time home at the Hilton to the Javits Center in 2026, marking the end of an era.

We hit the exhibit hall, highlighting standout vendors, unforgettable swag (yes, we’re ranking the best and worst giveaways!), and key trends shaping the legal tech landscape.

Plus, we sit down with Josh Janow, CEO of SMI Aware, for a chat on what makes them unique in the world of social media discovery. Josh shares how SMI Aware’s proprietary technology and expert analysis help legal teams uncover and preserve critical open-source data, ensuring compliance and strategic insights in discovery, due diligence, and risk management.

If you missed Legalweek or just want the inside scoop, this episode has everything you need!

Josh Janow is the CEO of SMI Aware, a leader in social media and open-source data discovery. His company specializes in researching, collecting, and preserving publicly available information to support legal, HR, and compliance teams in discovery, due diligence, and risk management.

With a career dedicated to leveraging data for strategic decision-making, Josh has led SMI Aware in providing critical insights that shape client strategies. Previously, he served as General Counsel and later President of gategroup North America, overseeing a $1B operation with 10,000+ employees. His leadership during industry disruptions, including the COVID-19 pandemic, drove significant restructuring and growth. Josh began his career at Weil, Gotshal & Manges, developing expertise in legal and business strategy.

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Today Kevin and Laura sit down with Kirk Hanson, a seasoned Sales Engineering leader with an impressive career spanning industry giants like SentinelOne, Splunk, BMC, and IBM. From kicking things off with a nostalgic nod to Hanson’s MMMBop to deep insights on the evolution of sales engineering, this conversation is packed with wisdom, humor, and career-defining moments.

Kirk shares how his journey into tech started with an unexpected edge—his fluency in Japanese—and how strong mentorship shaped his path. He goes into the balancing act of technical expertise and business acumen in sales engineering, how AI and automation are reshaping the field, and why human connection remains irreplaceable in building customer trust. We also explore trends in cybersecurity, cloud, and big data, including a candid discussion on false positives at SentinelOne. Kirk reflects on his time at Splunk, where he co-founded the Solution Architect team, and the impact of international experience on data privacy and cybersecurity strategies. Kirk offers advice for aspiring sales engineers, leadership lessons from his global career, and a glimpse into what’s next for him. Oh, and a friendly reminder: never miss your one-on-ones with your employees.

But it’s not all business—we make some fun detours into pop culture, from Office Space’s infamous “Jump to Conclusions” mat to Laura’s struggles with her futuristic WalkCar from Japan. Plus, Kirk shares his passion for supporting the Navy SEAL Foundation and his ongoing quest to collect challenge coins. Tune in for an engaging, insightful, and laugh-filled conversation with one of the best in the business!

Kirk Hanson is a highly experienced Sales Engineering Manager with over 20 years of expertise leading sales engineering teams at top software companies such as SentinelOne, Splunk, BMC, and IBM. Specializing in cybersecurity, cloud technologies, big data, and data analytics, Kirk is a strategic advocate for customers, leveraging value-based selling and consultative approaches to close complex sales. Throughout his career, he has built and led high-performing presales teams, created innovative sales tools, and consistently delivered strong results. Fluent in Japanese, he has conducted numerous presentations across Asia and led multiple executive panels for leadership networks. His notable achievements include co-creating the Solution Architect team at Splunk, earning multiple awards such as SE Manager of the Year (Americas), and receiving the Innovation Award for developing new demo platforms. He holds a BA in International Studies from the University of California, San Diego, and has pursued post-graduate work at Cal-State Hayward.

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This week Kevin and Laura sit down with Damon Reissman, President of Celerity Discovery, to explore the complexities of multilingual litigation and how Celerity’s innovative Multilingual Litigation Support (MLLS) offering is reshaping the legal tech landscape. Damon brings over 20 years of experience in eDiscovery and litigation support, having led major engagements at Deloitte and PwC before spearheading Celerity’s data intelligence solutions across 30+ countries.

Damon shares insights into the development of Celerity’s MLLS platform, designed to address the unique challenges legal teams face in cross-border litigation—ranging from managing large volumes of multilingual data to ensuring defensibility and cost control. He discusses how traditional translation services often fall short in the legal context and how Celerity’s MLLS stands apart by leveraging AI and machine learning to accelerate document review, maintain accuracy, and reduce costs. With globalization increasing the demand for efficient multilingual litigation solutions, Damon offers his predictions on the future of MLLS and how technology will continue to evolve to meet the needs of law firms, corporations, and government agencies. He also shares his favorite type of client to work with and the services he enjoys showcasing most. Tune in to hear how Celerity is changing the game in legal tech and why Damon believes the future of litigation support is multilingual, intelligent, and cost-effective.

Damon Reissman is the President of Celerity Discovery, a leading data intelligence company specializing in eDiscovery and litigation support for over 20 years. With more than two decades of experience at Deloitte and PwC, Damon has advised clients on complex litigation, regulatory investigations, and data management strategies. He is an expert in electronic discovery, digital forensics, and legal operations, having led hundreds of cases across the Electronic Discovery Reference Model (EDRM) in 30+ countries.

Damon has worked extensively across industries such as Energy, Technology, Life Sciences, Financial Services, and Government. He is recognized for his ability to lead global teams, develop in-house eDiscovery solutions, and provide strategic guidance on litigation response, regulatory compliance, and data management best practices.

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404 Connection Not Found? Today Laura and Kevin sit down with Kavita Ajwani, one of the world’s top dating psychology coaches for men and the founder of Dashing Date to discuss who Men in tech can win at dating. With over 13 years of experience, Kavita has helped thousands of men in tech navigate modern dating with confidence and authenticity.

Kavita shares her journey from running a tech startup to building North America’s largest speed dating company. She opens up about the unique challenges men in tech face when it comes to dating, why confidence is often the missing link, and how digital distractions are reshaping modern relationships. We breakdown the growing crisis of loneliness and emotional isolation, the rise of online dating scams, and the increasing role of AI and deepfake technology in the dating world. Plus, Kavita offers a special gift for our single male listeners—free access to her Coding for Connections masterclass.

Whether you're a tech professional struggling to make real connections or simply curious about how technology intersects with modern romance, this episode is packed with insights, humor, and expert advice. Tune in now to learn how to debug your dating life and build meaningful relationships!

📩 DM Kavita @dashingdates on Instagram with the word “connections” to access her masterclass.

Kavita Ajwani is one of the world’s top dating psychology coaches for men and the founder of Dashing Date. With over 13 years of experience, she helps men navigate modern dating with confidence and success. She’s the resident dating expert on Breakfast Television and has been featured in The New York Times, Cosmopolitan, and Global News.

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Today Kevin and Laura sit down with Eric Müller, VP of Engineering and CISO at Presence, to explore the complex intersection of product development and security. We discuss today’s digital landscape where companies are constantly walking a tightrope between innovation and cybersecurity.

With over two decades of experience across industries like banking, social media, and online gaming, Eric shares his insights on emerging cybersecurity threats, the rising costs of ransomware attacks, and the evolving regulatory landscape—including the UK’s controversial push for encrypted data access. We discuss how organizations can safeguard electoral integrity amid growing concerns of foreign interference. But it’s not all doom and gloom—Eric also sheds light on the transformative role of AI and other emerging technologies in shaping the future of data security and privacy. Tune in for an engaging discussion on leading resilient tech teams, fostering innovation without compromising security, and preparing for the cybersecurity challenges of tomorrow. Don’t miss this episode!

Eric Müller is the VP of Engineering and CISO at Presence, where he has led engineering teams and supported automated processes to deliver high-quality digital products for the past decade. With over 20 years of experience in engineering and security, Eric has worked across various industries including banking, social media, B2B, retail, fashion, and online gaming. His extensive background includes significant roles at Wells Fargo Bank, Charles Schwab, Razorfish, and Mekanism, where he delivered award-winning projects for clients such as Samsung, eBay, and DKNY. At Presence, Eric fosters empathetic leadership and transparent communication to build resilient, high-performing tech teams.

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In this episode, Laura and Kevin sit down with Allen Cooper, the Co-Founder and CEO of ReadyList, Inc., to explore how his company is transforming hospital operations through cutting-edge software solutions. Allen shares the inspiration behind ReadyList, a mobile-friendly platform designed to optimize the workflows of hospital ancillary and support service teams, ensuring cleaner, safer environments for patients and staff.

We discuss how this helps hospitals mitigate labor shortages by streamlining processes for environmental services teams, ultimately improving patient outcomes. As cybersecurity threats in healthcare continue to rise, Allen explains how ReadyList prioritizes data privacy and security to safeguard hospital systems against cyberattacks. Allen shares insights on how companies can advocate for policies that support both compliance and innovation. We also discuss the challenges hospital administrators face in adopting new technologies and strategies for overcoming resistance to change. Lastly, Allen shares his favorite food from Milwaukee!

Allen Cooper is the Co-Founder and CEO of ReadyList, Inc., a mobile-friendly software that transforms how hospital ancillary and support service teams operate. Allen co-founded ReadyList with a deep passion for helping the behind-the-scenes workers who keep hospitals running smoothly. ReadyList’s software modules guide them through best-practice cleaning and room prep protocols, resulting in cleaner, safer facilities for both patients and staff. Allen believes the right kind of software can save hospital systems money, time, and even lives.

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In this week's episode, Laura and Kevin sit down with Ricoh Danielson, a U.S. Army combat veteran turned digital forensics expert and entrepreneur. Ricoh shares his journey from serving in Iraq and Afghanistan to founding Fortitude Tech LLC and 1st Responder, organizations dedicated to cybersecurity and digital forensics. His military experiences instilled in him a mission-driven approach, shaping his ability to respond to cyber threats with precision and discipline. Ricoh discusses the current cybersecurity landscape, highlighting the rise of cyber threats from groups in Romania, Estonia, Ukraine, and Russia. While global adversaries like North Korea and China remain a concern, he emphasizes the evolving dangers posed by independent cybercriminals and organized crime, including Mexican cartels running multi-million dollar scam call centers. He stresses that while governments have defenses in place, individuals and businesses must take ownership of their cybersecurity.

A prolific author, Ricoh has written nine books, including Battlefield Parenthood and The Rise of the Vetrepreneur, which explore the resilience of veterans in business and life. Unlike traditional technical field journals, his cybersecurity books take a coffee-table book approach, making the topic more accessible. Ricoh provides practical advice for businesses on building strong cyber defenses and navigating digital threats. He also touches on the impact of shifting political landscapes on cybersecurity and why he encourages professionals to acquire skills that allow them to operate beyond government influence. Ricoh teases future projects, including a potential movie with Laura as his star, and calls on listeners to support veteran entrepreneurship, cybersecurity awareness, and his mission of empowering businesses and individuals against digital threats. This is a must listen!

Ricoh Danielson is a U.S. Army combat veteran of Iraq and Afghanistan and a leading figure in digital forensics and cybersecurity. Founder of Fortitude Tech LLC, Ricoh turned his passion for incident response and digital forensics into a nationally recognized powerhouse while attending law school. His expertise spans high-profile cell phone forensic investigations, big data analytics, and cybersecurity innovation. He also leads 1st Responder, supporting businesses of all sizes in navigating and mitigating cyber incidents.

A graduate of Thomas Jefferson School of Law, Colorado Tech University, and UCLA Anderson School of Management, Ricoh combines military-honed leadership with technical acumen. He is the author of Battlefield Parenthood and The Rise of the Vetrepreneur, which spotlight the resilience and entrepreneurial spirit of veterans.

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This week Laura and Kevin sit down with Suriel Arellano, author, speaker, inventor, and executive mentor, to explore the intersection of leadership, AI, and organizational transformation. Suriel shares his journey from Mexico City to Los Angeles and his passion for empowering humanity through AI. We discuss how Plato’s allegory of the cave perfectly illustrates the way organizations must embrace technological change. Suriel debunks myths about AI resistance, discusses the real fears behind automation, and explore how leaders—technical or not—can drive AI innovation. Suriel explains why AI isn’t just a technical tool but a leadership concept, offering insights from his work at IBM, HP, and beyond.

We also touch on the environmental impact of AI, the need for sustainable innovation, and how AI can be leveraged to address real-world crises—including wildfires and floods. Plus, Laura shares some wild stories from Mexico City, from eating steak tartare with grasshoppers to a questionable yogurt experience at the airport—all leading back to a discussion on misconceptions about AI adoption. And of course, the big question: Is ChatGPT making us dumber?

Suriel Arellano is an author, speaker, inventor, and executive mentor with over two decades of experience inspiring audiences with his deep insights into digital
transformation and the transformative role of Artificial Intelligence in empowering
humanity. As an executive coach and organizational development consultant, Suriel combines his in-depth knowledge of leadership principles with AI expertise to help organizations navigate the complexities of digital transformation and achieve business success.

Suriel’s journey has been shaped by his leadership roles at companies like IBM and HP, where he developed strong industry relationships and honed his expertise in leadership, organizational change, and culture transformation.

Suriel holds a Bachelor of Science in Leadership and Management from New York University, advanced certifications from MIT in Artificial Intelligence Leadership, and Har Business School in Business Management. As a DISC Independent Consultant and Organizational Development Coach, Suriel applies his expertise in behavioral analysis to guide organizations through cultural challenges and leadership development, ensuring that teams are cohesive and aligned with the company’s goals.

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Today Laura and Kevin are joined by Matthew Rasmussen, founder of ModeOne, a trailblazer in the legal tech and eDiscovery space, to explore how his innovative solutions are reshaping digital forensics. Matt shares his insights on the challenges and opportunities in mobile data collection and forensic investigations. We talk about the genesis of ModeOne and how its remote smartphone collection solution disrupts traditional forensic practices, offering a scalable, targeted, and cost-effective approach. Matt explains how innovations like these are leveling the playing field in a sector traditionally dominated by giants like Cellebrite. We discuss the balance between privacy rights and forensic needs in the age of remote work and encrypted communications and the future of forensic investigations with emerging technologies like IoT devices, wearables, autonomous vehicles, and drones. We also cover the challenges of detecting manipulated digital evidence and how forensic tools are evolving to address these issues and the pivotal role of platforms like Signal and WhatsApp in secure communications, contrasted with the vulnerabilities of less secure options. Matt also offers his perspective on high-profile cases like the Blake Lively/Justin Baldoni case and the Alex Jones trial, shedding light on how digital evidence plays a crucial role in litigation today. Finally, Matt shares advice for aspiring innovators in the legal tech space, predictions for the next decade in eDiscovery, and why he believes the best is yet to come for the industry.

Matthew is a seasoned leader with over two decades of eDiscovery experience transforming how Fortune 500 companies, AmLaw 200 law firms, and litigation service providers approach complex, high-stakes legal matters. He has held key roles at prestigious organizations like O’Melveny & Myers and Bingham McCutchen, building a reputation for innovation in eDiscovery lifecycle management and legal technology.

As the founder of ModeOne, Matthew pioneered the first remote smartphone collection solution designed for targeted, cost-effective data extraction, revolutionizing modern evidence management. Known for his collaborative approach and passion for solving industry challenges, he thrives on delivering new technology to the market that redefine what’s possible in the legal tech space.

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Today Laura and Kevin dive into a fascinating discussion on the world of Enterprise Resource Planning (ERP) with Nick Foy, the Founder and CEO of Silverdale Technology who shares his unique perspective on making ERP solutions accessible for businesses of all sizes.

First though Laura and Kevin kick things off with a lighthearted chat about Laura's new Walk Car. Then, Nick explains why ERP systems, often overlooked until they’re slow or malfunctioning, are critical for businesses. He emphasizes their power in providing quick access to financial and operational insights, enabling better decision-making. For small-to-medium-sized businesses, he advocates for leveraging out-of-the-box ERP solutions and partnering with experienced implementation experts to avoid common pitfalls like over-customization and poor setup. The conversation shifts to leadership, where Nick reflects on how his time at Amazon shaped his philosophy. He shares his approach to creating scalable, tenant-based processes inspired by the tech giant. On a lighter note, Nick, a whisky enthusiast, draws parallels between crafting fine whisky and great ERP solutions, both requiring a long-term vision. He reveals his favorite whisky—Glenmorangie—and touches on his roots in Scotland and journey to the U.S., where he’s continued to innovate and inspire in the tech and business space. Give this a listen! You will leave with actionable insights into ERP implementation, process optimization, and leadership, as well as a deeper understanding of Nick’s passion for democratizing technology.

Nick Foy is the Founder, CEO, and Chief Evangelist of Silverdale Technology, which provides access to world-class processes, systems, and change management methods regardless of their size or budget. Going against the grain of the ERP industry, Nick and his team are 'democratizing ERP' with their unique perspectives, such as their standard business process library, fixed price implementation and money-back guarantees.

Nick is well placed to do so, with over 30-years of experience in business and technology consulting and leadership positions, particularly in logistics and supply chain, at Amazon, Capgemini Consulting, ModusLink Corporation, 3663 First for Foodservice, and The Glenmorangie Distillery Company. Born in Scotland and currently living in rural Washington, USA, Nick is a frequent traveler, having made it all around the US, Europe, and Asia for work. Still, he also spares time for his interests, such as being an aspiring guitar player, whisky sampling as a hobby, and being an early adopter and owner of a large tech graveyard of discarded first editions.

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Today Kevin and Laura chat with John Martin, CEO of RedFile Technologies, and Chris LaCour, founder of Ingenious Dataworks about the fascinating intersection of eDiscovery, AI, and cybersecurity. Starting with their unique backgrounds, we explore eDiscovery’s obsession with AI and uncover where the industry may have gone astray.

John argues that the problem lies in the “A” of AI—highlighting the limitations of artificial intelligence and its inability to fully understand context. He explains RedFile’s game-changing 3DI approach, developed over 17 years, which combines graphical, content, and attribute analysis with emotional tone detection to provide a more nuanced and accurate picture. Chris critiques the industry's reliance on buzzwords and inefficient human-in-the-loop processes while advocating for practical solutions like 3DI that are cost-effective and CPU-driven. The discussion shifts to cybersecurity, with a thought-provoking analysis of why the industry focuses on tracking people ("the who") rather than protecting data ("the what"). John and Chris reveal how disorganized data can lead to massive vulnerabilities, and argue for better data classification and privacy-first strategies to address these issues. We discuss whether the eDiscovery and cybersecurity industries can level the playing field for smaller companies or if a divide between the "CPU vs. GPU" approaches will leave less-resourced organizations behind. With sharp insights, humorous anecdotes, and practical advice, this episode offers a fresh perspective on innovation, the pitfalls of AI hype, and how businesses can chart a better path forward in a data-driven world.

John Martin, CEO of RedFile Technologies, Inc., and a U.S. Army veteran, brings over three decades of experience in data science and technological innovation to his leadership role. His extensive expertise in developing advanced data processing technologies has been pivotal in the creation and continuous refinement of the innovative 3DI platform. Under his visionary leadership, RedFile is not merely navigating but actively shaping the future of document processing and data analysis. Guided by John's direction, RedFile has revolutionized document and image processing with its state- of-the-art 3-Dimensional Inference (3DI) technology. This breakthrough replaces the traditional, labor- intensive "stare and compare" methods with automated, headless systems that significantly enhance efficiency and accuracy across various industries. A committed advocate for innovation, John also places a strong emphasis on customer success and regulatory compliance. His leadership ensures that RedFile not only leads in technology but also empowers businesses to harness data-driven insights for informed decision-making, fundamentally transforming their operational and strategic landscapes.

Chris LaCour is a serial entrepreneur with a proven track record of founding and scaling multiple successful businesses across diverse industries. Renowned for a sharp ability to spot market opportunities, drive innovation, and accelerate growth, Chris has consistently built companies that make a lasting impact.

Most recently, Chris launched Ingenious Dataworks, a company dedicated to solving critical data management challenges for businesses. With a deep understanding of the complexities surrounding data in today’s digital landscape, Chris’ latest venture leverages cutting-edge 3DI technology to streamline data operations, improve accessibility, and enable organizations to make more informed, data-driven decisions. Passionate about delivering tangible value through innovative solutions, Chris is committed to helping businesses unlock the full potential of their data, empowering them to remain competitive and agile in an increasingly data-centric world.

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In this bonus episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin dig into the high-stakes controversy surrounding TikTok, the immensely popular short-form video app owned by ByteDance. With over 170 million users in the U.S. and significant cultural and economic influence, TikTok now faces an uncertain future due to national security and data privacy concerns. As the Supreme Court debates whether to uphold a law requiring ByteDance to divest its U.S. operations or face a nationwide ban, this episode unpacks the legal, political, and social implications of the decision.

We explore the critical arguments both for and against a TikTok ban, from potential risks of data misuse and propaganda to concerns about free speech, economic disruption, and setting a global precedent for censorship. The episode also highlights the app’s impact on small businesses, creators, and the U.S. economy, contributing billions annually and supporting millions of jobs.

For a unique perspective from an actual TikTok user, Kevin's 12-year-old daughter Evelyn joins as a guest, offering insight into why TikTok resonates with Gen Alpha. Evelyn discusses her experiences with the platform, how it shapes her creativity and social connections, and what a potential ban might mean for teens like her. The conversation sheds light on generational differences in attitudes toward technology, privacy, and digital culture. Laura also loops in her niece to get the 14 year old’s perspective.

As the Supreme Court’s decision looms and Donald Trump prepares to take office, Laura and Kevin discuss the possible outcomes, including a TikTok divestment, acquisition by figures like Elon Musk, or a complete ban. They also explore how these developments could reshape the digital landscape in the U.S., including the rise of alternative platforms like RedNote and the broader implications for tech sovereignty, mental health, and teen culture. Tune in to this bonus episode to understand the stakes of TikTok’s trial and its ripple effects across technology, society, and politics.

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Today Laura and Kevin sit down with Mike Bowers an expert in IIoT platforms, and legacy system modernization. Mike shares invaluable insights on how to innovate in manufacturing and bridge the gap between technology and leadership. We explore Mike’s personal and professional journey into software development and architecture and then deep dive into the Industrial Internet of Things (IIoT), explaining its role in transforming industries such as automotive, water treatment, and smart city development. Mike highlights how smart factories are revolutionizing manufacturing by improving efficiency, reducing costs, and minimizing environmental impacts—illustrating concepts with real-world examples like Amazon's use of graph databases to optimize delivery logistics. Mike explains the technologies driving Industry 4.0, including the MQTT protocol, the importance of mastering JSON, and the critical role of AI and machine learning in enhancing IIoT capabilities. Mike also addresses practical advice for aspiring professionals: prioritize hands-on experience by working directly in modern factory environments to bridge theoretical knowledge with real-world applications. Mike also tackles key issues such as cybersecurity risks of legacy connected devices and the skills gap in the workforce. Along the way, he touches on futuristic topics like Elon Musk's AI innovations and the impact of robotics on improving worker conditions—, even addressing whether Amazon workers might finally avoid "bottle-breaks." Whether you’re a technologist or simply curious about how factories are evolving beyond the 1980s, this episode offers a fascinating look at the technologies shaping modern industry and the professionals driving these changes.

Mike Bowers is the Chief Architect at FairCom Corporation. Mike brings decades of experience in software development and architecture, and specializes in high-performance NoSQL/SQL databases, IIoT platforms, and legacy system modernization solutions. His insights will help CEOs, IT Managers, software architects/engineers, and control engineers to reduce cost in manufacturing, deliver agility by adopting Industry 4.0, and bridge between technologists and executives, to mention a few.

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Some people call him the Space Lawyer, some call him an entrepreneur... in today’s episode, Kevin and Laura dive into the laws of the cosmos with Christopher Hearsey, an accomplished space executive, lawyer, and entrepreneur with nearly two decades of leadership in the space industry. With expertise spanning space law, mission management, and strategy, Chris provides unique insights into the challenges and opportunities in the growing space economy. We kick off by answering a fundamental question: what does a space lawyer do? Chris explains the origins of space law, the 1967 Outer Space Treaty, and how these foundational principles apply to today’s technological advancements like reusable rockets and private moon missions. He details key topics such as Moore’s Law in space, the role of space in telecommunications technology, and the regulatory complexities of landing commercial habitats on the moon. Chris explains how space governance works, who gets to send missions to space, own property, and govern activities in space. We also cover space piracy, interplanetary lawsuits, and the cultural significance of space exploration. Chris also shares his thoughts on ethical considerations in space exploration, the challenges of colonizing Mars, and what it will take for commercial moon flights to become a reality. Plus, we get his take on important pop culture questions like Mulder or Scully? and hear about Kevin’s "all-expenses-paid" space travel deal—with a twist. Tune in for a mix of deep space insights, practical advice for aspiring space entrepreneurs, and a little humor as we explore humanity’s legal path to the stars.

Christopher Hearsey is an experienced space executive, space lawyer, and entrepreneur with almost two decades of leadership in the space industry. Since 2018, Chris has been the Founder and CEO of OSA Consulting, a strategic advisory and management consulting firm specializing in supporting early-stage tech and space startups. Through OSA Consulting, he has guided emerging companies in navigating challenges and achieving growth in competitive markets, working to send people and things to space.

Previously, Chris served as Chief Strategy Officer at Rogue Space Systems, where he drove strategic initiatives and expanded the company’s influence in the space sector leading efforts to launch the company's first satellite Barry-1 in 2023. As CEO of Exolaunch US, he established and managed the North American operations of the German-based launch reservation and mission management provider, overseeing business development, customer relations, and market expansion. His earlier roles include Corporate Counsel and Director of DC Operations & Legislative Affairs at Bigelow Aerospace, where he helped deploy the Bigelow Expandable Activity Module (BEAM) to the International Space Station in 2015.

Chris holds a bachelor's degree in Mathematical Physics and Economics and advanced degrees in law and space studies, including a Juris Doctor in Air and Space Law (Honors). He is also Cofounder, Chairman, and Treasurer of the Space Court Foundation, a multinational nonprofit dedicated to the promotion of space law education and the rule of law offering global internship and research opportunities. Chris lives with his family in Maryland where he ran for office in Maryland’s 6th Congressional District in 2018.

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Today Laura and Kevin chat with Matt Strippelhoff, the leader behind Red Hawk, to explore the evolving world of software development and the role innovation plays in shaping the industry. Matt shares his excitement about current trends in software development and explains how these advancements are influencing Red Hawk’s approach to building applications. Matt explains how Red Hawk leverages AI tools like code copilots to streamline the development process, while emphasizing the importance of maintaining a "human in the loop" approach. He also addresses the concerns surrounding AI replacing jobs, asserting that AI should enhance, not diminish, the role of development teams. However, he stresses that companies should only invest in AI if they can clearly articulate its value to their business. The discussion takes a lively turn as the group delves into the topic of AI chatbot companions. Laura sparks a spirited debate by asking whether chatting with an AI bot could be considered cheating. Kevin and Matt argue that it is, while Laura counters with a humorous take, adding that falling in love with an AI companion might make someone a “loser.” The conversation also touches on the challenges of using AI in recruitment, with Laura recounting a bizarre hiring experience involving a candidate who turned out to be a group of people. Matt offers valuable advice for non-technical founders looking to build software companies, outlining common mistakes they make and providing practical tips to avoid them. He also looks ahead to Red Hawk’s future, discussing the company’s innovative model of bundling software development and engineering into managed services. Matt also shares stories from his 15 years with his rock band, Grace in Gravity, including the time they opened for Sarah McLachlan. Laura playfully suggests starting a new band called “The Tripods,” but Matt remains focused on his commitment to Red Hawk, which he describes as his all-in plan with no backup. There is also a discussion on the pros and cons of remote work versus in-office teams, sparking a debate on building a workforce for the future. With a mix of expert insights, practical advice, and entertaining anecdotes, this episode offers something for everyone—from tech enthusiasts and business leaders to those curious about the intersection of AI and human creativity.

During his career, Matt Strippelhoff has curated an extensive portfolio in traditional and interactive media. Leading the development of web applications, mobile applications, e-commerce websites and specialized interactive marketing programs, he shapes Red Hawk’s technological landscape.
In 2022, The Circuit awarded Matt the Visionary Leader Award for his groundbreaking approach to software development. Recognized for reimagining the process, Matt's bold leadership catalyzes growth and success. His visionary business model bundles software development and technical support services for a fixed monthly fee, offering financial predictability and operational stability for their mid-market clientele.

At Red Hawk, Matt’s vision, disrupting traditional models, has led to explosive growth, multi-year recurring revenue contracts and greater than 95% customer retention. Matt earned a BFA in communication design from the Art Academy of Cincinnati in 1993.

The majority of Red Hawk's work today falls into three categories: workflow automation, sales enablement and systems integration. Red Hawk also serves as the outsourced innovation team for several clients, collaborating closely with client IT and marketing teams. From feasibility studies to fully featured applications, Red Hawk focuses on delivering measurable value with every initiative.

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Today we fulfill Laura's Christmas wish and transform the pod into That Murder Pod™as Laura and Kevin dive into the fascinating intersection of true crime and technology with guest and good sport, Paul Ruppert. Together, they explore how advancements in tech might have helped solve or even prevent some infamous murder cases. Laura walks Kevin and Paul through three chilling real-life cases: the tragic Brenda Spencer school shooting that inspired The Boomtown Rats' hit song "I Don't Like Mondays", the horrifying family murders involving Jasmine Richardson and her boyfriend, and the mysterious disappearance and murder of Girly Chew Hossencofft. As we examine each case, we discuss the roles that tech, from early internet monitoring to forensic advancements and surveillance, could play in uncovering clues and preventing such crimes. Whether you're a true crime enthusiast or a tech aficionado, this episode is sure to get you thinking about the powerful role technology can play in solving crimes.

Paul Ruppert, the CEO of Global Point View is a veteran CPaaS and mobile services executive, strategy consultant and holder of 2 tech patents enabling global text messaging, with career experience in both the private and public sectors applying a range of multidisciplinary skills exercised at the highest levels of both arenas–from corporate boardrooms to the White House. He has generated over $400M in direct sales, is a skilled cross border negotiator, technology innovator and strategic partnership driver with two decades leading global commercial, product, marketing teams and M&A deals in B2B SaaS sales.

Prior to entering the private sector, with a Harvard masters graduate degree Paul
served over a decade in policy and political roles as an legislative assistant to a US
Senator, economic development advisor to a cabinet Secretary, a technology
industry lobbyist and White House staffer. His private sector achievements are exceptional including scaling startups from $0 to $Billion valuations, forging global strategic partnerships, doing business in 80 countries, working with private equity and $B enterprises managing $130M business P&Ls, and managing cross border, cross cultural teams of teams having lived in the US, France and China.

Paul leads Global Point View Ltd, a strategy consulting firm providing insights to technology companies seeking guidance on focus, strategies and plans via scaling, partnerships and acquisitions. His international clients have included Facebook, MasterCard, Western Union, Liveperson, Infobip, private equity and venture firms looking to leverage mobile services in their digital plans for conversational commerce.

This episode contains discussions about murder, suicide, and violent crimes that may be distressing to some listeners. Please listen with care and prioritize your well-being.

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Today Kevin and Laura dive into the world of eDiscovery with Bryant Gauthier and Chris Purdy from Celerity Discovery, a division of Celerity that helps government agencies, law firms, and corporations navigate complex litigation. Bryant and Chris discuss what sets Celerity apart, from their expertise in investigations and expert witness services to their new Multi-Language Litigation Service. They share how AI is reshaping billing models and streamlining the discovery process, discuss career highlights, and offer advice for those entering litigation consulting. Plus, hear how Chris’s journey took him from owning a bar to becoming a trusted courtroom expert. Bryant and Chris bring years of experience crafting solutions across the EDRM. Bryant also discusses their upcoming webinar, How to Leverage Your Internal eDiscovery Program to Optimize Results. Listen for insights into the future of eDiscovery and the innovative work happening at Celerity.

Bryant Gauthier, the Vice President of Celerity Discovery, is a trusted advisor to law firms and in-house counsel. His expertise lies in identifying cost-saving measures for data identification, eDiscovery, data analysis, data mapping, information governance, privacy, and legal operations. He has a wealth of experience in serving clients in complex litigations and investigations, including regulatory investigations with agencies such as the SEC, DOJ, and CFPB and with congressional inquiries. Prior to his role at Celerity, Bryant held key positions at Huron Consulting, Skadden Arps, Buckley Sandler, Finnegan Henderson, and Xerox. Bryant has led matters spanning the EDRM, handling cases in North America, Asia, and Europe. He focuses on innovative solutions that reduce fees, time spent, and risk fees throughout the discovery process. He has supported Law Firm and In-House Legal teams in litigation, internal investigation, and government inquiries involving a variety of industries.

Chris Purdy, the Vice President of Litigation Services, has nearly three decades of experience in the litigation consulting arena, and leads Celerity’s Data and Damages Analysis practice. He has managed all aspects of the firm’s most complex and high-profile data analysis engagements, including data collection, database development, authoring of Expert and 1006 Summary Witness Reports, and submission of written and live testimony. In the data collection and database development phases, Chris develops and implements strategies to ensure gapless data collections, identifies critical relations between multiple tables and databases, and validates and ensures the integrity of all relevant data fields. In support of case strategy and in development of Expert Reports, Chris works with his clients to identify key case issues and the data sets that speak to those issues, and develops compelling and robust analyses and exhibits based upon that data.
In addition to his work related to Data and Damages Analysis, Chris has decades of experience in developing discovery strategies and in managing collections, data processing, review, and productions. Prior to joining Celerity, Chris was a co-founder of Certus Consulting Group, a litigation consulting firm, and a Project Manager at ZIA Information Analysis Group.

Celerity Discovery provides advanced eDiscovery, data analysis, expert witness and incident response services to clients seeking to optimize complex matter results. Blending extensive experience managing matters across all phases of the EDRM, Celerity Discovery services help clients convert raw data into clean intelligence to optimize cases and mitigate risk. With deep roots in complex data analysis, Celerity Discovery legal services practitioners are proven experts in providing clients with advanced solutions from forensics to final production, expert testimony and beyond.

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Today Laura and Kevin sit down with Kevin Korte, an accomplished IT Innovation and Growth Strategist, entrepreneur, and startup investor, to explore how organizations can transform IT from a hindrance into a strategic asset. Kevin shares his expertise in leading-edge cybersecurity practices, emphasizing the critical importance of balancing robust security with user convenience through technologies like Single Sign-On, Multi-Factor Authentication (MFA), and open-source identity management systems. Kevin discusses the power of standardized digital identity management for organizations of all sizes, from small teams to global enterprises with millions of users. We also talk about also emerging trends in cybersecurity and digital identities, providing actionable advice for businesses to stay ahead of evolving threats. Kevin also opens up about his journey from Germany to Seattle and adapting to new cultures. This conversation offers a wealth of insights on cybersecurity, leadership, and innovation.

Kevin Dominik Korte dedicates himself to inspiring people to take control of their time, data, & dreams in IT, Business, & Life. He is an accomplished, entrepreneurial Non-Executive Director and IT Innovation & Growth Strategist. His focus is to help companies adopt leading-edge cybersecurity practices and turn IT from a hindrance into an asset for every organization. A German native, Kevin moved to Seattle in 2013 to take over the role of President of Univention North America. He is responsible for the US team and helps clients use open-source identity management systems. As a startup investor, Kevin focuses on Tech and FinTech. His exceptional stakeholder management skills nurture strong relationships with high-profile industry players and key partners. Outside of work, Kevin serves as Treasurer to the Jacobs University Bremen Foundation of America, which is part of the endowment of his Alma Mater.

Univention provides standardized identity management systems for organizations from 5 people to 5 million. Kevin's team provides Sales, Support, and Professional Services.

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Today, Laura and Kevin talk with Mike Paciello, a trailblazer in the field of digital accessibility and usability. As the Chief Accessibility Officer at AudioEye, Mike shares his journey, from his early motivation to focus on accessibility to authoring the first book on web accessibility, Web Accessibility for People with Disabilities. We discuss Mike's role in the creation of the Web Accessibility Initiative, challenges companies face in prioritizing accessibility, and how AI is shaping the future of inclusive technology. Mike also sheds light on gaps in the accessibility market, and ethical considerations for emerging technologies. Finally, he dispels misconceptions about accessibility and offers his vision for a more inclusive digital world. Whether you're a tech enthusiast, accessibility advocate, or curious about the intersection of technology and inclusivity, this episode is a must-listen.

Mike Paciello is the Chief Accessibility Officer at AudioEye, Inc., a digital accessibility company. Prior to joining AudioEye, Mike founded WebABLE, which delivers news about the disability and accessibility technology market. Mike authored the first book on web accessibility and usability, “Web Accessibility for People with Disabilities” and, in 1997, Mr. Paciello received recognition from President Bill Clinton for his work in the creation of World Wide Web Consortium’s Web Accessibility Initiative. He has served as an advisor to the US Access Board and other federal agencies since 1992. Mike has served as an international leader, technologist, and authority in emerging technology, accessibility, usability, and electronic publishing. Mike is the former Founder of The Paciello Group, a world-renowned software accessibility consultancy acquired in 2017 by Vispero.

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Today Kevin and Laura chat with Derek Ferguson on the future of software engineering in the age of AI. We discuss how Derek is leveraging AI to enhance coding without reducing developer opportunities. Derek speaks on the role of software engineers evolving and which skills will become obsolete. Derek gives advice for aspiring software engineers. We also talk about AI-generated code quality and the right amount of oversight human developers need to have when dealing with AI-assisted coding. We hear about low code and no-code and AI platforms becoming more prevalent and the impact on the job market. Derek gives his thoughts on AI displacing certain roles within software engineering and how developers prepare for these changes in 2024 and beyond. Lastly Derek tells a funny story from a major tech event speech he gave and what he enjoys most about teaching others.

Derek Ferguson is the Chief Software Officer at Fitch, where he leads the development of software used by investors to identify opportunities and quantify risk. Fitch’s products have won 27 awards — and counting — in the last two years alone. Outside of software creation, Derek is the author of the bestselling Broadband Internet Access for Dummies, an expert in masterclasses hosted by GOTO Chicago, and a speaker at prestigious events — from JavaOne to TechEd and beyond

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Mr. Backup himself, W. Curtis Preston. We talk about the biggest opportunities for innovation in legal tech. We hear Curtis' thoughts on AI redefining roles within legal teams. We discuss the biggest technical and logistical obstacles to satisfying an eDiscovery request when it comes to handling backup data. Curtis walks us through why backups present unique challenges in eDiscovery compared to other types of data sources. We also hear Laura and Curtis' thoughts on the PT Cruiser and so much more!

W. Curtis Preston is a Legal Tech Evangelist specializing in eDiscovery and Forensic Acquisition. Curtis possesses a unique combination of legal and technical expertise and has been an expert witness on multiple lawsuits, consulting and being deposed on multi-million-dollar matters that included intellectual property, patents, and insurance. He has even been a pro se litigant in three cases – and prevailed in each case. He has brought his expertise to S2|Data, a legacy data and discovery solution aiding Fortune 500 legal teams, AMLAW 100 Law Firms & Sole Practitioners in computer forensics and eDiscovery.

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Today Laura and Kevin chat with Tom Hurd the CEO & Co-Founder of Zeki Data. Tom first details his time overseeing intelligence and law enforcement operations serving as the senior Homeland Security Advisor to four British Home Secretaries. We learn about the importance of practicing your cybersecurity procedures. Tom talks about what really goes on in a cyber crime lab and dispels some of the myths around James Bond and MI6. We hear about his team's efforts to locate the COVID virus (and Laura's possible direct involvement 😬) and tracking the virus in the same way you can track cocaine. Tom gets into building big data projects around human excellence and finding people who "break the pattern." We learn about "Moneyball for Scientists and Engineers," and how Zeki Data uses AI to find the best talent. Finally Laura does a health check on Tom. This is a really interesting and entertaining episode!

Tom Hurd, the CEO and Co-Founder of Zeki Data, served as the senior Homeland Security Advisor to four British Home Secretaries, leading efforts against state Tom Hurd Horizontal threats, cybercrime, and terrorism, and overseeing intelligence and law enforcement operations. He played a key role in producing the Prime Minister’s Daily Intelligence Brief and was part of the UK’s Joint Intelligence Committee. Tom advocated for using science and technology to enhance operations, leading to his establishment of the UK’s Joint Biosecurity Centre to improve the accuracy of COVID-19 outbreak detection. He was honoured with an OBE in 2011 and a CB in 2020 for his contributions to national security. Tom has transitioned from government intelligence to co-founding a talent intelligence start-up.

At Zeki Data, they specialize in pinpointing the most advanced and innovative minds in science and engineering—individuals who are not just pushing the boundaries but are redefining them. These top deep tech innovators are driven to create groundbreaking solutions, refusing to settle for the status quo. Their sophisticated time series data empowers us to develop a comprehensive view of an individual’s record of innovation and accomplishments, allowing Zeki to accurately forecast their future potential. To identify this elite talent, Zeki meticulously crafted a dataset encompassing 10 million individuals employed at over 40,000 companies across 94 countries, spanning over a decade.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Cybersecurity Expert Craig Petronella and founder of the Petronella Technology Group. They speak about cybersecurity and disaster recovery after events such as Milton and Helene and how you should test your cyber practice with table-top exercises. Craig shares some scary ransomware stories. He also gives tips on how to get into cybersecurity in 2024. We get into some of the overlooked compliance risks and new regulations. Craig is a true expert!

Craig and the Petronella Technology Group have helped 5,000+ businesses stay safe from network attacks and fully comply with their industries' regulations, including CMMC and NIST for defense industrial base contractors, HIPAA and HITECH for medical practices, GLBA for banking and finance, FTC compliance, Sarbanes Oxley and more. Craig is also the author of 8 cybersecurity and compliance books, including the Amazon #1 bestseller How HIPAA Can Crush Your Medical Practice.

With 30+ years of experience, Craig is well-known and highly regarded in the U.S. cybersecurity industry. He has served as a compliance consultant and conducted onsite risk assessments for over 500 medical practices, hospitals, and business associates, across the country, protecting them from hackers halfway around the world in places like Ukraine, Russia, and China. Craig holds MIT certifications in AI, blockchain, cybersecurity, and compliance.

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With Laura out sick, today Kevin talks with Wyn Elder, the Managing Director of Global Public Sector at Box. They chat about Wyn's work and the difference between the public and private sectors. Wyn explains why he chose Box and what separates them from their competitors. We talk about DIUx, cloud cyber security, shadow IT and what keeps Wyn up at night. Lastly we talk modernization of government infrastructure and the TMF. Give this one a listen!

Wyn is responsible for revenue growth, strategy, business development, product roadmap, partnerships and channel distribution throughout this industry for Box.

Prior to Box, Wyn was at Deloitte Consulting where he led their Public Sector Innovation practice and helped Federal agencies transform their digital enterprises. Before Deloitte, Wyn worked at Apple where he served as the Director of Business Development, Partnerships, and Strategy for all of Apple’s Government & Public Sector business. He was responsible for crafting Apple’s government strategy and integrating associated changes into Apple's products, contracts, manufacturing, and distribution channels to support this innovative approach. Wyn also served as a Partner at the DoD’s premier Innovation Hub, Defense Innovation Unit (DIUx), helping transform the way the DOD works with advanced technology start-ups and accelerating the adoption of commercial technologies into the military services.

Prior to working at Apple, Wyn served 26 years as a pilot in the US Air Force and commanded at the Squadron, Group, and Wing levels and logged more than 3,000+ hours flying in the process. Wyn capped off his career by serving as the Senior Executive Assistant to the Vice Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff. He is a graduate of the National War College and holds an MBA from the University of Florida and a degree in Mathematics from the University of Virginia.

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Today Laura and Kevin chat with Wesley Beary. Wesley is a tech wizard who has been reshaping the developer experience for over 15 years, turning complex API and open source challenges into solutions loved by developers worldwide. We talk about how do you think organizations can prioritize APIs tools better to enhance internal developer productivity. We hear about Wesley's philosophy on balancing the need for speed, security, with simplicity when building tools and platforms for developers. As an angel investor, Wesley explains how he identifies promising startups that are building for developers or focused on improving the developer experience. We learn the differences between Salesforce and startups approach developer tooling and internal processes. We also learn what’s next for developers. Lastly, we find out if Wesley really likes all this. Check this one out!

Wesley Beary is currently shaking up the tech world as a Founding Engineer at Anchor, a dev-friendly platform that provides private CAs for internal TLS encryption. It is making HTTPS certificates easy to get on servers, allowing developers to focus on building rather than managing security. Here’s a blog Wesley wrote about how Anchor developed a CLI and the tools that helped.

Wesley’s many career highlights include his maintenance of Ruby’s excon gem (over 485 million downloads) and suite of fog gems for cloud services. He also led the design of the Heroku public API and played a key role in publishing the pioneering HTTP API Design Guide. Wesley’s insights have guided countless developers in building better APIs.

Wesley is more than an open source expert; he's a community builder, having organized dev meetups and delivered keynote addresses at conferences for Upstream, ArrrrCamp, and Ruby.

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Today Kevin and Laura speak with Dana Samuelson, the Founder and President of American Gold Exchange (AGE), a leading national precious metals and rare coin company specializing in dealer-to-dealer trading and direct-to-consumer sales. We talk about the precious metals market, the US economy and interest rates hikes and the effect on precious metals prices. We also discuss precious metals and rare coins as investments and hedges against financial uncertainty and inflation. Dana give us investing tips on the best ways to own precious metals both in modern bullion and in vintage, pre-1933 US gold and European gold coins. We touch on the best practice do's and don'ts when buying and selling, and the best ways to store and insure your physical holdings. We discuss if bitcoin or gold or the stock market is the best investment in 2024. We also learn whether Kevin should harvest the gold off his the circuit boards in his vintage tech collection and Laura talks FOMO.

Dana Samuelson has been active in the physical gold and silver markets for 43 years and is a nationally recognized expert on vintage, pre-1933 US gold and silver coins. Dana is also recognized as an authority in the precious metals industry and has been interviewed by major media outlets, including Forbes, Market Watch, and Fox Business.

Because precious metals market prices are impacted by the US economy, the global economy, interest rates, currency fluctuations, international events and especially inflation of late, Dana has become very knowledgeable in all of these areas and can speak in depth as to what is happening and why in all of these markets, especially as to how they affect precious metals prices in dollars and in other currencies.

This year marks the 25th anniversary of AGE. Their business model is based on repeat business and referrals, and they enjoy the continued endorsement of a host of nationally recognized investment newsletter writers, financial advisors, and hard asset proponents. AGE also has an impeccable national reputation for honesty and integrity with their peers and clients, holding an A+ Better Business Bureau rating and almost perfect Trustpilot customer reviews.

Dana began his career in the early 1980s as a personal protege of James U. Blanchard III, one of the great industry giants and the individual most responsible for the re-legalization of private ownership of gold in the US in 1974. Did you know gold was illegal to own in the US between 1933 and 1974?

He is also a past President of the Professional Numismatists Guild, the premiere organization of US rare coin dealers, whose principal goal is to uphold high standards of excellence among dealers so that trading in rare coins is risk-free for investors and collectors. As president, Dana conceived of and contributed to the establishment of the Anti-Counterfeiting Task Force, which today collaborates with Homeland Security and the Secret Service to identify and seize counterfeit bullion coins and bars (over $100M in street value thus far).

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Marcus “Bellringer” Bell about using generative AI in music. We learn about Marcus' past as a child prodigy who started playing the piano at age two, wrote his first songs at eight, and started his own record label at 12. Marcus talks about the 100 Day Impact Challenge and how losing his voice led to his decision to use AI to clone his voice - that’s when the potential for creative innovation through AI tools blew his mind open. Marcus is pioneering the next era of creativity with his photorealistic AI Music Artist Character, Ravyn Lyte. Ravyn Lyte was created to impact societal issues for the better and her music has been designed with neuroscientists to embed sounds of peace and healing to soothe the soul. We also learn about Marcus' mother Carolyn Williams Bell, a pioneer in the American Tennis Association in 1961. The two co-authored the book Bellringer Branding Bible: The 5 Musician Branding Principles for Singers, Rappers, DJs, Music Producers, Composers, Writers, and Recording Artists. Finally, Marcus tells about using tools to create podcasts and Laura and Kevin sign-off for the final time as they decide to use AI for the pod going forward (just kidding!), Marcus is a true AI evangelist. You don't want to miss this episode!

Born in Norfolk, Virginia, Marcus “Bellringer” Bell was a child prodigy who started playing the piano at age two, wrote his first songs at eight, and started his own record label at 12. His journey began at Berklee College of Music, where he honed his craft and graduated in 1996. Since then, Marcus has continuously pushed boundaries in music and entrepreneurship, embodying a legacy of innovation and empowerment in the entertainment industry.

Today, Marcus is a multifaceted American music producer, songwriter, multi-instrumentalist, singer, social media influencer, activist, and entrepreneur. As CEO of Bellringer Productions LLC, he oversees a powerhouse in music sync licensing and production, boasting a catalog of over 10,000 songs and nurturing more than 300 recording artists. His credits span industry giants such as Nicki Minaj, Snoop Dogg, Timbaland, and collaborations with major brands including Sony Music, HBO, Netflix, and Amazon.

As a technophile exploring technology throughout his career, he decided to use AI to clone his voice to complete the last of the project. That’s when the potential for creative innovation through AI tools blew open. Marcus is not only shaping the industry with his billion-plus music streams but also pioneering the next era of creativity with his photorealistic AI Music Artist Character, Ravyn Lyte. Ravyn Lyte was created to impact societal issues for the better. In a world where emotions of hate and rage through music and lyrics are targeting young children, Rayvn Lyte’s music has been designed with neuroscientists to embed sounds of peace and healing to soothe the soul.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Jared Russell and James Dobberstein about their innovative idea to revitalize Baltimore's real estate market. We talk about abandominiums, food deserts and how tech is impacting their plans. We learn about their crowd-sourced funding plan and their revolutionary supermarket idea. While this one is a little less techy than usual, its still an interesting coversation!

Jared Russell, a lifelong resident of the DMV area, has developed a highly sophisticated and multidisciplinary approach to real estate, encompassing a wide range of transaction types and strategies. With over a decade of experience as both a realtor and investor, Jared has honed a unique ability to creatively explore and implement alternative transaction methods, tailored to meet diverse needs and scenarios.

Throughout his career, Jared has been deeply involved in the investment and development of various property types. His primary focus has been on serving lower-income communities, where he has pioneered innovative programs and housing solutions designed to promote equitable opportunities and foster community growth. His commitment to these underserved areas underscores his dedication to creating meaningful, impactful change through real estate.

James Dobberstein was born in Baltimore City and was adopted by his aunt and uncle who lived outside of DC. For nearly a decade, he has been actively engaged in the realms of real estate and development within Baltimore City, with a specialized focus on affordable housing. Throughout James' career, he dedicated himself to the development of both single-family and multi-family properties, targeting areas affected by urban blight and the challenges posed by abandoned properties. His efforts have been driven by a commitment to revitalizing these neighborhoods, aiming to alleviate the impact of property neglect and contribute to the overall enhancement of the city's housing landscape.

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Today Kevin and Laura speak with Jennifer McIver, the Director of Legal Operations & Industry Insights at Wolters Kluwer about GenAI being just one of the tools in your tech toolbox. We discuss whether GenAI should be treated like predictive coding or MS365. Jen reminds us to remember the data and traditional AI tools. We talk enterprise legal management, spend software and legal analytics solution, e-signatures, legal prediction tools, case management tools, chatbots and e-Billing apps. We also hear Jen's divisive take on "tech she hates." This is a fun episode!

Jennifer McIver is an attorney turned legal technologist with extensive experience helping corporate legal departments improve operational efficiency, spend management, and collaboration with outside counsel through the use and adoption of technology. As Director, Legal Operations & Industry Insights at Wolters Kluwer, Jennifer represents ELM Solutions at industry events, develops thought-provoking content, and dives deep with LegalVIEW to surface valuable data insights about rates and other industry trends.

Laura and Kevin also chat about The Advocate Next Door, a new podcast from friends of the pod Kelby Ballena (our guest on pod 29 from 2021) and Margarita Rosa Arango. The Advocate Next Door is a podcast that covers genuine, in-person conversations with individuals from diverse backgrounds. Kelby and Margarita welcome guests who delve into their life and career journeys, exploring the passions and hobbies that drive them, and uncovering the stories behind their career choices. Each episode aims to reveal the personal side of professional paths, sharing inspiring tales of resilience, dedication, and the unique experiences that shape who they are today. They recently dropped their first 3 episodes. Check them out here.

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Today Laura and Kevin chat with Levar Jackson, the Founder and CEO of Yogh Group, which works in partnership with Oregon State University to design sustainable technologies for the hospitality industry. They talk about sustainability being more than just resources — impacting economic, social, and environmental sectors. We hear about the amazing patented technologies for energy generation Yogh Group developed. We learn about the connection between sustainability and social impact and how that can be measured. We also learn of a trick to hack hotel A/C units.

Yogh Group's technologies include the QuaiEnergy System for efficient electricity and AlgoHelix, an automated algae growth system designed to bring algae based products to all locations around the globe for sustainable food, beverages, beauty products, fuel and textiles. Yogh Group is also designing sustainable hotels, which include art museums, culinary institutes, and agricultural production — connecting co-supportive industries in one space.

Levar serves as President of NEWH New York, which provides international resources for scholarships, education, business development, and excellence recognition in areas of hospitality, food service, senior living, and related fields.

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On today's pod, Kevin and Laura speak with Matt Van Itallie about code transparency and GenAI. We talk about the risks with human-only code, GenAI-originated code and blended code and the risks of each for GenAI developers. We discuss the Github class action lawsuit and CoPilot. Matt gives us some best practices and practical advise. We find out if Matt is an introvert or an extrovert and being tech curious. We also talk about Matt's ability to explain tech to non-tech audiences and why that's important. Matt also talks about the fun of creating Peepshi, a playful combination of marshmallow Peeps and sushi.

Matt Van Itallie is the Founder and CEO of Sema. He and his team have developed Comprehensive Codebase Scans, the most thorough and easily understandable assessment of a codebase and engineering organization. These scans are crucial for private equity and venture capital firms looking to make informed investment decisions. Sema has evaluated code within organizations that have a collective value of over $1 trillion. In 2023, Sema served 7 of the 9 largest global investors, along with market-leading strategic investors, private equity, and venture capital firms, providing them with critical insights. In addition, Sema is at the forefront of Generative AI Code Transparency, which measures how much code created by GenAI is in a codebase. They are the inventors behind the Generative AI Bill of Materials (GBOM), an essential resource for investors to understand and mitigate risks associated with AI-generated code.

Before founding Sema, Matt was a Private Equity operating executive and a management consultant at McKinsey. He graduated from Harvard Law School and has had some interesting adventures, like hiking a third of the Appalachian Trail and biking from Boston to Seattle.

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Today Laura and Kevin have Bruce Randall on the pod. Bruce is a thought leader who delves into AI's impact on human enhancement and consciousness. Bruce is currently working on his book "The AI Human Paradox," examining AI's transformative potential and regulatory challenges. We talk about the ethical impacts of AI advancements, such as brain-computer interfaces and superhuman capabilities. Bruce advocates for balanced regulatory frameworks to ensure safe and ethical AI integration. We also discuss superhumans, super soldiers, and more.

Bruce's expertise goes beyond technology and business; his personal journey includes meditation, Reiki, and exploring the deeper aspects of human potential. These experiences provide unique insights into the human mind, enriching his perspective on AI and its societal implications.

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Today Kevin and Laura speak with Ajay Malik about all things AI. As the former Head of Architecture/Engineering of the Worldwide Corporate Network at Google, Ajay is a technologist, business futurist, and prolific inventor with about 100 patents pending/issued specializing in Artificial Intelligence, Wi-Fi networking, Quantum computing, and Real Time Location. We talk about generative AI versus classic AI. We discuss which is the best LLM. We chat about the difference between AI and super intelligence. We also discuss expensive tech toys and early holiday gift ideas. We also learn that you can only have up to 30K LinkedIn connections (because Ajay is maxed out!)

Ajay Malik is the CEO of SECO MIND USA LLC, a company that builds StudioX, world’s leading enterprise AI platform to accelerate incorporating AI in business. Ajay has also held executive leadership positions at Meru Networks, Hewlett-Packard, Cisco, and Motorola. He completed B.E in Computer Science & Technology from IIT, Roorkee, India. Ajay Malik's unique blend of creativity, leadership, and technical expertise promises an engaging and enlightening experience for all attendees.

Ajay Malik has founded and successfully sold multiple startups, led the exit of a public company, and has experience as a Section 16 officer. He has authored various books "RTLS for Dummies," "Augmented Reality for Dummies," "Artificial Intelligence for Wireless Networking," "First God, Then Man, Now AI - Generative AI".

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Quinton Goddard, the Head of Solutions and Sustainability for SquareTrade Europe. They chat about planned obsolescence and the right to repair, exploring how these issues impact both consumers and the environment. Quinton shares his expertise on how SquareTrade Europe is tackling sustainability, discussing the development of tools and processes and the broader implications for the insurance industry. Quinton provides insights into how sustainability is being integrated into SquareTrade’s operations, ensuring that the company not only meets but exceeds its environmental responsibilities. They chat about Quinton's path from astronomer to the insurance sustainability guy, turning the Titanic, Jake from Statefarm, the Safelite jingle, and much more!

Quinton Goddard is the Head of Solutions & Sustainability for SquareTrade Europe. Quinton oversees the development and implementation of the region's sustainability strategy. In this role, he spearheads the creation of tools and processes to measure annual emissions, set reduction targets, monitor progress, and integrate sustainability across all facets of SquareTrade Europe.

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Today Kevin and Laura speak with Jake Moshenko, the co-founder of AuthZed, a leader in permissions systems as a service. We talk about what its like to work for both Amazon and Google. We chat about Amazon's trick firings/secret PIPs and Jake's iPhone app for the game Big 2. We also talk about the challenges of building and selling to developers, his cofounding of Quay and using the Zanzibar papers as a guide. Laura also rants about Disney adults and gives her most controversial take ever about Taylor Swift fans. Check this one out!

With his extensive background in developer tooling and distributed systems, Jake Moshenko is an expert in creating robust authorization software. He is passionate about developer experience and scalable infrastructure.

AuthZed was founded by 3 successful entrepreneurs with expertise in enterprise software, most recently as leaders at Red Hat. Jake and Joey met on the APIs team at Google in 2010. They went on to found Quay, where Jimmy joined as their first hire. Over the past decade, they’ve changed the landscape for building and deploying software.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Daniel Gold, Principal in Forensics and the eDiscovery Managed Services Leader for BDO. We talk about his origin story from law to legal tech leader. We talk about Athenagy and AI's impact on the industry. We discuss the shrinking of the billable hour, differentiating true AI from traditional keyword searching and myths vs. reality in legal tech.

Daniel is the Principal in Forensics and the eDiscovery Managed Services Leader. He is the creator of BDO's Athenagy, the only patent pending business intelligence solution in the world that created a Common Data Model and data driven insights fueled by both RelativityOne and Microsoft Purview eDiscovery.

Daniel has over 20 years of experience in the legal space. As a practicing lawyer, Daniel quickly identified that by appropriately harnessing new forms of legal technology, both lawyers and legal professionals could be vastly more productive and effective. This realization led Daniel to the legal service provider space and with it, came years of success at consulting with some of the largest corporate law departments and law firms across the country. Daniel’s experience in e-discovery technical consulting, consultative selling, as well as leading a national operations team for an IT managed services company has enabled him to provide a comprehensive approach to how legal professionals can leverage technology to create a collaborative and dynamic approach to e-discovery. Daniel’s passion for managed services has made him a known thought leader in e-discovery.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Simon Chen, the founder and CEO of Eight Black. We talk about the security and transportation industries. We talk about the Paris Olympics and its challenges. We also discuss the Trump shooting attempt and how the Secret Service responded. We get into tech's impact on security, ongoing cyber threats, Jason Bourne, the Taken movies and more!

Simon Chen, the founder and CEO of Eight Black, brings a wealth of experience and expertise to the security and transportation industries. Originally from Australia, Simon has lived in Colorado for the past eleven years. Prior to moving to the United States, he and his family were based in Singapore, giving him a rich international background. With over 20 years of consulting experience with technology companies across Asia Pacific and the US, Simon has held several senior management positions in large multinationals. Simon has a strong background in advanced driver training, having taught for 15 years at Australia’s largest and most respected Advanced Driver Training company. His motto, "safety before schedule," is evident in the impeccable safety standards of the Eight Black fleet. Additionally, Simon spent 8 years in the Australian military (Army), and he now leads Eight Black's Security and Executive Protection division, collaborating with some of the most talented security professionals in the world. Since founding Eight Black eight years ago with just one car, Simon has grown the business significantly while maintaining his passion for contributing to the ground transportation and security industries. Eight Black now provides bespoke security and transportation solutions worldwide, ensuring clients' journeys are secure, comfortable, and seamless, whether they are traveling from Africa to Paris or anywhere in between.

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Today Kevin and Laura speak with Chris Bradbury a serial entrepreneur with an amazing life story. We focus on how to fail as an entrepreneur and how to get back in the game. Chris takes us through his numerous ventures from cutting grass, to building a video game, to selling cars, to selling drugs, to doing computer repair, to running an energy site, even being a politician and then to real estate and finally to contracting with the US Postal Service. Chris explains that mindset about failure matters most for whether an entrepreneur gets back to it or gives up. Chris is the living embodiment of the Rocky Balboa speech on taking your lumps and moving forward. This is a pod you don't want to miss!

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For our 200th episode, Laura and Kevin chat about the Microsoft patch/Crowdstrike outage, the AT&T data breach, Google's potential $23 Billion acquisition of Wiz and much more! We also talk about Laura's new gym, the Drop in! This is a fun bonus pod.

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Today Kevin and Laura chat with Carsten Brinkschulte about wildfire technology. Carsten is a telecoms tech veteran and serial entrepreneur. He is the co-founder and CEO of impact tech startup Dryad Networks, the firm’s large-scale IoT network for the ultra-early detection of wildfires will help to save the world's forests and fight climate change. We speak about impacts for profit. We learn about sensors that smell fire versus see it. We figure out who pays for this and much more!

Carsten Brinkschulte is CEO and co-founder of Dryad Networks. Dryad provides ultra-early detection of wildfires as well as health and growth-monitoring of forests using solar-powered gas sensors in a large-scale IoT sensor network. Dryad aims to reduce unwanted wildfires, which cause up to 20% of global CO2 emissions and have a devastating impact on biodiversity. By 2030, Dryad aims to prevent 3.9m hectares of forest from burning, preventing 1.7bn tonnes of CO2 emissions.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Ray Rivard. We talk about legal and ethical considerations with Generative AI. We talk about the complaint against Adobe for selling AI-generated imitations Ansel Adams' work. We talk Sarah Silverman suing OpenAI and other IP claims and copyright issues with GenAI. We talk about replacing Al Michaels with an AI bot. We hear Ray's origin story and get his advise on being an IP lawyer in 2024. We also chat about who is liable when GenAI breaks the law. This pod has it all including going deep on accountability and the need for guardrails on GenAI. You don't want to miss this one!

Ray Rivard currently serves as Senior Director for the Federal Government Sector for Prevail.ai. In his role, he devises and promotes solutions for government agencies, government contractors, and law firms, utilizing Prevail's artificial intelligence (AI) tools and processes. Prior to his current role, Ray was the Senior Information Technology Specialist for the eDiscovery Group within the Legal Information Technology Unit for the FDIC’s Legal Division. His specialties included devising and integrating best practices in failed bank data collection, preservation, authentication, processing, review, analytics, and production. Ray has provided technical expert testimony in civil and criminal court hearings across the United States; filed declarations and affidavits as an expert in numerous federal courts; participated in meet & confer conferences with opposing parties in failed bank litigation matters; and revised and modified ESI protocols, protective orders, and joint discovery plans. Prior to joining the federal government, Ray spent nearly two decades handling large litigation matters for several D.C.-based law firms, including Jones Day, Wilmer, Mayer Brown, and DLA Piper.

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Today Kevin and Laura chat with Ben Johnson, the CEO & Founder of Particle41. Ben is an experienced serial entrepreneur with $30 million raised across his 5 startups and has 20+ years of software development experience. We speak about establishing efficiency in technology teams, building technology companies from the ground up, the difference between a tech mindset and a CEO mindset, how to fix slow, and how to bring a new product to market.

Particle41 is a company focused on CTO advisory, app development, data science and DevOps.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Francis Lacoste. Francis is an Engineering Leadership Coach who helps CTOs and VPs of Engineering at scaling tech startups nurture amazing work cultures and high-performance teams that build products and services that delight their customers.

Until early 2023, Francis was the Senior Director of Software Engineering, Culture, and Engagement at Salesforce, where he coached top engineering managers to be better leaders as they helped grow the company and build a culture of collaboration and innovation across the Salesforce Platform engineering division with 1200 people.

He has spent 25+ years working from home in the open-source and cloud developer tools industry and also previously worked at Heroku and Canonical, where he built successful high-performance remote engineering teams.

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Today Kevin and Laura chat with Alex Rawitz and Yevgeny Khessin of DIMO. Alex Rawitz is the Co-Founder & COO. Yevgeny Khessin is the CTO & Co-Founder. We talk about cars, crypto, connected apps and cybersecurity. We learn about the origin of DIMO. We get into the types of cars they each drive (Yev's is cooler!) We discuss who drives a Rav4, 70's Land Cruisers, old Broncos, driving stick and even OJ. We also discuss meme stocks, meme coins and NFT scams. A lot going on in this one!

Alex Rawitz is the Co-Founder & COO at DIMO. Alex has worked in the world of cryptocurrency and IoT startups for the past ten years. He is always searching for ways to use these technologies to improve other people's lives. Before joining DIMO, Alex was an employee at Chainalysis, where he worked with several exchanges, DeFi protocols, and fintech. Before that, he held a position in sales at Servato, an Internet of Things company operating in the telecom space.

Yevgeny Khessin is the CTO & Co-Founder. Yevgeny spent a decade as an software engineer in the automotive world with a focus on distributed connected vehicle systems. He has worked across the largest vehicle OEMs, built dispatch and fleet management software for autonomous vehicles and helped connect millions of cars to the internet.

Founded in 2021, DIMO is building a global data connectivity platform for mobility. Not only does DIMO's technology allow users to connect their vehicle to a mobile app for amazing insights, but DIMO's platform is decentralized and open source.

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Today Laura and Kevin talk about the 46th Annual NYU International Hospitality Industry Investment Conference. Laura was onsite hearing from world-class experts in hospitality investment, global CEOs from prominent hotel brands, active investors, forward thinking operators and innovative developers all centered on the hospitality ecosystem.

The 46th annual NYU International Hospitality Industry Investment Conference (NYU IHIIC), is a leading information services and event company, in partnership with the NYU School of Professional Studies (NYU SPS) and its Jonathan M. Tisch Center of Hospitality which delivered unparalleled thought leadership through keynotes, general sessions, workshops and networking events. Top industry executives from CEOs of hotel brands to various investment and real estate executives discussed the latest trends, economic influences, and projections. The NYU IHIIC was held on June 2-4, 2024 at the Marriott Marquis in New York.

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Today Kevin and Laura talk with Jonathan Gillham, the Founder and CEO of Originality.AI, a trailblazing venture in the realm of artificial intelligence and content originality. We talk about Jon's journey from building content marketing agencies to founding Originality.AI. We find out how Originality.AI detects AI-generated content and we talk about the trustworthiness of online reviews in the era of generative AI. We hear about the long-term vision for Originality.AI and get some advice for entrepreneurs looking to enter the AI tech space. Lastly we talk about how funny the reviews of Haribo Sugar-free gummies are. Such a fun pod!

Jon founded Originality.AI after successfully building and later selling two content marketing agencies. His entrepreneurial spirit didn't stop there, Jonathan recognized the immense potential of artificial intelligence in transforming content creation and verification, so in November 2022, Originality.AI was born, driven by the vision to detect GPT-3 generated content (before the launch of ChatGPT).

Having been one of the earliest adopters of generative AI content for SEO purposes at scale through his agency he understood the wave that was coming which ChatGPT and GPT-4 have fully unleashed. He also recognized the need for a modern plagiarism-checking solution that delivered advanced features such as scan history, detection scores, shareable results, and team access, all of which are now integral parts of Originality.AI.

Jonathan leads a team of experienced Machine Learning Engineers, Researchers, Developers, and Marketers, all on a mission to try and provide transparency regarding the true originality of any written content.

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That Tech Pod is off for Memorial Day weekend so we are reposting one of our all time favorite pods. We'll be back next week!

This pod originally aired as Bonus pod on Thursday, May 19, 2022.

Laura and Gabi speak with Dr. Avi Loeb, theoretical physicist who works on astrophysics and cosmology and the Frank B. Baird Jr. Professor of Science at Harvard University. Dr. Loeb is author of Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth which can be purchased here and recently wrote about the congressional hearings regarding UAPs which you can read here.

Laura and Gabi discuss all things UFOs, how the government is finally recognizing these unexplained sightings, and his research with the Galileo Project, an organization whose goal is to bring the search for extraterrestrial technological signatures of Extraterrestrial Technological Civilizations (ETCs) from accidental or anecdotal observations and legends to the mainstream of transparent, validated and systematic scientific research. This project is complementary to traditional SETI, in that it searches for physical objects, and not electromagnetic signals, associated with extraterrestrial technological equipment.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Andrea Baur, the cofounder of Effective Energy Invest out of Munich, Germany.

Ms. Baur has over 20 years of experience advising and working directly with clients in the renewable energy sector, based in Germany—serving Europe, United Kingdom, and Asia. Ms. Baur has been an entrepreneur within this sector since 2002 with the establishment of the Kyoto Protocols; and brings an extensive track record (almost 1M MW’s in solar, wind, waste-to-energy) in sourcing, structuring, and executing transactions in the renewables space. Ms. Baur co-founded 2EINVEST Gmbh in 2012. Prior to that, she worked for four years with an Australian Fund, Castle Pines Global Equities, as it’s General Manager for Western Europe. Ms. Baur has longstanding experience in advising clients in the renewable energy sector on the global stage. Ms. Baur is a German citizen, born in Hungary, who is fluent in five languages.

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Today Laura chats one-on-one with Relativity CEO Phil Saunders. They chat about Phil's origin story and his journey to Relativity including a desire to work with Andrew Sieja, the Godfather of many things eDiscovery. They discuss if eDiscovery is boring and what keeps Phil up at night. Laura gets Phil's take on Relativity being either the 800 lbs. gorilla in the room, Bruce Lee or even Wayne Gretzky. They talk about Relativity's view on AI, the Say-Do Ratio, the innovator's dilemma and Winston Churchill's cabinet position designed to get to the truth. They also chat about a new approach and framework started by a group of industry leaders, Legal Data Intelligence. Finally, they debate if pickle juice is gross (it is).

Phil Saunders joined Relativity as Chief Executive Officer in December 2022. He has more than three decades of operating experience in the technology industry. Phil has significant expertise in sectors germane to Relativity including enterprise SaaS, as CEO of both Cornerstone OnDemand and Saba Software; infrastructure technology, in roles at Oracle and Motorola; and cybersecurity, as an executive at SafeNet and Thales (formerly Gemalto). He received his bachelor’s degree from University at Albany, SUNY and his MBA from Seton Hall University.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Aslak de Silva, the CEO of Selfly Store, where they're using the latest developments in loT, machine learning, and AI to offer smart vending machines that make grab-and-go food shopping as easy as using your home fridge. We talk about intelligent vending machines, how AI comes into play, demand-predicting machines, dynamic pricing, new solutions in the ever-evolving landscape of technological innovation. We also hear about Laura's history with office coffee and Kevin's gas station days.

Aslak de Silva has 15+ years business executive experience, specializing in future trends in unmanned retail, disrupting the home delivery markets, and the future of intelligent IoT solutions in vending. Before becoming CEO at Selfy Store, he was the CEO of Nordic Business Forum, one of the world's biggest business and leadership conferences, with 7K+ attendees annually from 50+ countries and featuring world-class speakers like Barack Obama, George Clooney, and Steve Wozniak. Selfly Stores are used by 100+ companies in 22 countries across Europe, and in 2023, Selfly Store was named among the "50 Most Innovative Companies To Watch" by CEO Views.

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Today Laura and Kevin are joined by Shashwat Sehgal, the Co-Founder and CEO of P0 Security on a bonus episode. We talk about the RSA Conference next week in San Francisco. We talk about the Innovation Sandbox and P0 Security's nomination as a top 10 finalist!

We talk about Shashwat's and P0 Security's journey from the launch of your flagship product in November 2023 to being selected as a top 10 finalist for the RSAC Innovation Sandbox 2024. We hear how Shashwat envisions universal access for all identities, both human and non-human, evolving in the future and how P0 Security leverages automation. Shashwat also shares his thoughts on the current state of cloud security, and trends shaping the industry in the coming years.

Shashwat Sehgal is the Co-Founder and CEO of P0 Security. He’s spent most of his career building security and observability products for developers, DevOps, and security teams. Shashwat is passionate about solving the problem of cloud access security and helping security engineers control 'who has access to what sensitive resources' in their clouds. He enjoys playing tennis, spending time with his family, teaching his son how to play chess, and geeking out on all things security.

The RSA Conference RSA has been a driving force behind the world’s cybersecurity community. The conference is an ongoing source for timely insights, thoughtful interactions, and actionable intelligence designed to help cybersecurity professionals continually strengthen their organizations and push their careers further. The RSAC Sandbox fosters innovative advancement in multiple disciplines of cybersecurity through interactive, cutting-edge experiences.

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Today Laura and Kevin chat with Frank Kyazze, the the founder and CEO of GRC Knight. We talk about the combination of AI and cybersecurity. We talk about the reauthorization of Section 702 of the FISA bill which expands the NSA's surveillance program. We talk nuke simulators and WW3, new AI laws and their impact, the Ed Sheeran/Marvin Gaye copyright lawsuit, cool new gadgets like Humaine.ai, the digital trust, the AT&T breach and the Roku breach, and Frank's new AI LLM, Francine.ai.

Frank Kyazze's career is a blend of innovation, ethics, and humanism in technology. Over the last decade, he become a leader in digital trust, covering cybersecurity, governance, risk management, compliance, privacy, and AI ethics. As the founder and CEO of GRC Knight, Frank champions strategies that protect national security and our society's infrastructure. His work spans traditional sectors to startups and venture capital, advocating for cybersecurity as a growth engine.

With certifications like CISSP, CIA, CEH, CIPP/E, CIPM, and ISO Lead Auditor, Frank's expertise is unmatched. Frank is a thought leader who connects technology's tangible aspects with its philosophical roots, offering insightful perspectives on technology, national security, and the digital economy. Frank Kyazze is not just a name in the tech industry; he is a storyteller, a philosopher in the digital age, and an architect of trust in a world that increasingly depends on it. His journey and insights offer a unique blend of depth, pragmatism, and visionary thinking, making him a compelling voice in the ongoing conversation about our digital future.

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Today Kevin and Laura speak with John Conafay about space technology. We talk about John's origin story and a desire to stop human trafficking. We also share eclipse stories and why space matters to normal people (GPS, & Tinder?) and if they can really view a license plate from space. We also talk about John's company, Integrate, and its mission, why space junk matters, the Kessler effect, the movies The Mist and I.S.S. This one is a fun pod!

John Conafay is a US Air Force Veteran and the CEO and Co-Founder of Integrate, building program management software with a systems engineering approach for the world’s most ambitious machines.

Previously he was an early employee at three space unicorns – Head of BD at ABL Space Systems, was one of the first ten employees at Astranis, and Interned at Spire Global early on. He also worked at the Office of the CFO NASA Headquarters while at BryceTech and was a Director of Business Development at Spaceflight.

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In this bonus pod, Kevin and Laura talk about FOIAs. You get to hear a few excerpts from the panel session Kevin moderated at the Digital Government Institute's eDiscovery, Records and Information Management Conference. Kevin was joined on stage with Michael Sarich of the VA and Michael Heise from EEOC.

As the volume of digital information continues to grow, the scope of electronic records management has expanded exponentially and is an increasingly critical issue for government agencies, particularly as it relates to providing electronic access and retrieval of government records. Key government and industry experts gathered at the 21st annual eDiscovery, Records and Information Management Conference to discuss current technology solutions/requirements, policy updates/changes and review examples of successful electronic records, FOIA and e-discovery programs.

Michael Sarich is the FOIA Director at the U.S. Department of Veterans Affairs (VA). He leads one of the federal government's most extensive FOIA programs, managing a team of 900+ FOIA and Privacy Act Officers dispersed across 151 facilities. Leveraging over a decade of expertise in FOIA and Privacy Policy at the VA, the Social Security Administration and the Bureau of Land Management, he specializes in navigating intricate requests, handling litigation, and ensuring rigorous regulatory compliance in FOIA. He also plays a pivotal role as the co-chair of the Chief FOIA Officer Council's Technology Committee, spearheading initiatives to revolutionize FOIA service delivery on a government-wide scale.

Michael Heise is the Attorney Advisor at Equal Employment Opportunity Commission. He is an experienced FOIA analyst, and licensed attorney with a strong background in electronic discovery at all stages. He has a strong aptitude for explaining complicated legal principles in a straightforward and clear manner. He significant experience with project management and supervision after 9 years with CACI.

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Today Kevin and Laura talk with Alex Levin about overcoming spam, unsolicited messages and the future of customer outreach. We talk about the history of spam, the communication marketing arms race, the definition of unsolicited messages and consent. We also learn about the ROI of the various types of outreach, gorilla marketing, if people actually answer calls anymore, the difference between rented and owned channels, how AI comes into play in marketing, chain mail and more!

Alex Levin is Co-Founder and CEO of Regal.io. He leads the GTM teams. Prior to Regal.io, Alex was a product manager at Personal and Thomson Reuters, and then joined Handy (acquired by ANGI in 2018) as an early employee. At Handy and then ANGI Alex led growth and marketing. Alex grew up in New York and received his BA from Harvard.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with privacy expert Alan Chapell about digital media and privacy. We talk about the FBI and CIA tracking our phones, how we have become numb to personal surveillance, the Chappell Report, credit at the expense of privacy, why we can't delete Facebook even though we all know we should, Alan's musical talent, stopping by a jazz party in Florida, figuring our how the Spotify algorithm works, if Ticketmaster is selling Kevin's data and the most common privacy mistake we all make. We also discuss our music tastes and debate who'd you'd rather get stuck in an elevator with, Laura or Kevin. This is a fun episode!

Alan Chapell is outside privacy counsel to digital media companies and the principal analyst at the Chapell Report. Chapell started his career in digital media at Jupiter Research in 1997. Since 2003, Chapell has advised well over two hundred different companies, from venture backed startups to some of the largest media, technology, and telecommunications companies in the world.

Chapell & Associates’ mission is to help clients navigate regulatory, public policy and other marketplace challenges to maximize the value of their products and services. The Chapell Report is a monthly continuous information research tool focusing on the intersection between privacy, addressability and competition for data driven advertisers worldwide – helping them understand the key trends driving the advertising and media marketplace.

Alan is also an accomplished musician. Check him out.

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Today Laura and Gabi are joined by Fisayo Oluwadiya to talk about Resactly, which is an AI powered personalized food recommendation service. We hear about Fisayo's origin story, building AI models with Vertex AI, the different stages of AI algorithms, her plans for the future (continue on for world domination or sell?), Chef Kwame Onwuachi and Dogon in DC and much more!

Fisayo Oluwadiya is a full-stack, results-oriented and driven principal software engineer with a proven track record over a 15+ year career. She is a passionate and energetic, highly organized and a highly skilled problem-solver with a background working in many different kinds of business such as JP Morgan Chase, Major League Baseball, Nordstrom and the Walt Disney Company.

The concept of Resactly is simple - "What if there was a way to find restaurants that were a perfect match for individual tastes?" Resactly's advanced AI/ML platform delves deep into your unique taste profile, preferences, and dietary needs to curate a list of restaurants tailored just for you. No more endless searching or disappointing meals. With Resactly, every dining experience is transformed into a memorable culinary journey. Check out Resactly for a gastronomic adventure and discover eateries that truly speak to your soul.

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Today Kevin and Laura talk with John Tredennick, the founder and CEO of Merlin Search Technologies. We talk about why John is not chilling on a catamaran in the South Pacific somewhere after the sale of Catalyst, how Merlin's approach to generative AI differs from others in the industry, the advantages that GenAI brings to eDiscovery and why they are not in the “wait and see” mode like many other big Legaltech software providers are. We also chat about the ethical concerns related to the use of generative AI particularly in areas like bias. We then talk about the elephant in the room - the loss of the billable hour and the potential that generative AI raises about job displacement in the legal review market.

John Tredennick is the founder and CEO of Merlin Search Technologies, which develops AI-powered search software for investigations, discovery and regulatory compliance. Prior to Merlin, he was founder and CEO of Catalyst Repository Systems, which he sold to OpenText in early 2019. For the first 20 years of his career, he was a trial lawyer and litigation partner at Holland & Hart, a national law firm based in the Rocky Mountains.

John is a prolific speaker and writer. Over the past 30 years, he has written eight books and countless articles on legal technology topics. You can find links to many of those here: https://merlin.tech/headlines/article-resources/

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Today Kevin and Laura talk with Artem Koren, the Chief Product Officer and Co-Founder of Sembly AI. We chat about product management, consulting, AI, keeping chatbots on track (unlike Meta and X's chatbots), dealing with obscure languages, laundry mishaps and more!

Sembly records, transcribes and generates smart meeting summaries with meeting minutes. It works with Zoom, Google Meet and Microsoft Teams.

Artem Koren grew up and lived most of his adult life in New York City. He graduated from Columbia University with a degree in Computer Science. He later attended the NYU Stern School of Business where he earned his MBA.

Artem is passionate about using AI to enrich humanity and create positive change. He combines his experience as a systems engineer, product manager, IT executive, management consultant, and entrepreneur to create innovative products, bringing to life new ways that technology can help us reach our goals. Sembly AI, which he co-founded with Gil Makleff in 2019, is at the forefront of advancing natural language understanding, paving the way for a symbiotic partnership between humans and technology.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Umaimah Khan, the CEO of Opal Security. We talk about Umaimah's journey from home schooler to CEO, leaving the tin foil hat tribe, not being able to shadow run life, working for the DoD and health startups and how that impacted the genesis of Opal, spreadsheets of DOOM, carcinization, IAM being a productivity issue, Stripe, Okta, the Okta breach, access sprawl reduction, GitHub as a compliance took and so much more!

Umaimah Khan is the co-founder and CEO of Opal Security, a next-generation identity security company. As a mathematician and engineering leader, Umaimah knows first-hand the challenges of managing secure authorization and access management pathways. She began her career as a researcher in the federal government, before leading infra and security at several startups. Umaimah graduated from Massachusetts Institute of Technology with a BS in Mathematics and Computer Science.

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Today Kevin and Laura chat with Joe Gross about the cross over of sales and tech. We discuss the role of a tech therapist, a sales engineer, the power of a 10 minute demo, the difference between "pizza tech" and "people tech" people, convenient truths versus outright lies, the first 5 people you should hire and so much more!

Joe Gross is the Director of Solutions Engineering at Graylog. Joe is a problem-solver and communicator, relying on his more than 10 years of security and IT expertise to understand and devise solutions to help customers overcome their cybersecurity and logging challenges. Joe also manages Graylog Open, a large interactive online community dedicated to increasing and sharing IT and security knowledge to solve real world problems.

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Today Laura and Kevin talk to Colin Gounden the CEO and co-founder of VIA about privacy and energy. We discuss why data privacy matters in energy, if the average person really cares about privacy, compensating renters for sharing in energy conservation, how EV owners think about privacy, which countries are the most (and least) advanced in data privacy, the 2014 class action lawsuit against Honda, Toyota, VW and GM about data collection in cars, why cars are even our collecting data and whether smart meters are worth "Big Brother" watching us. We also discuss a federal privacy law, what you can infer about someone based on their energy usage, the Justice40 initiative, and George Clooney.

Colin Gounden is CEO and co-founder of VIA. Colin recruited five of the top 20 global utilities and the U.S. Department of Defense as co-developers and now major users of VIA’s Trusted Analytics Chain™ (TAC™), a data privacy-enhancing blockchain-based platform. With seven patents issued and nine pending, TAC™ is the bridge that securely connects infrastructure data, distributed across many locations, to AI solutions.

Previously, Colin was the first investor and board director of five MIT and Harvard spinouts, focused on energy and deep science technologies. Two of these spinouts became profitable in their first year of operations and three of them are now valued at more than $400M each. In 2009, he sold Grail Research, where he was founder and CEO. Under Colin’s leadership, Grail Research grew from its first employee to more than 300 full-time employees in three years.

In the 2000s, Colin was a partner and elected board director at a top five global strategy consulting and private equity investment firm with $2Bn in assets under management. He started his career with IBM working with utilities in Europe and North America before co-founding a database-driven web-development company based in London, with major customers such as Royal Dutch Shell. Colin has been featured in The Wall Street Journal, Forbes, Fast Company, Wired, and the Financial Times. He is also a frequent guest speaker on the subject of blockchain and energy at events held by industry experts and energy regulators (public utilities commissions and FERC). Colin’s leadership at VIA has been featured in seven Harvard Business School case studies, three with VIA. Colin graduated from Harvard University.

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Today Laura and Kevin are joined by Philippe Humeau to chat about crowdsourcing cyber security. They discuss the pros and cons of opensource software for cyber security, the consensus algorithm, Captain America Syndrome, the true scale of Cyber Crime, whether being hacked boils down to a budget problem, renting alpacas, hugging alpacas, alpaca clothing and then even debate what foreign language Laura needs to learn in 2024!

Philippe Humeau is an IT security engineer and founder of CrowdSec. He is from Paris, France. He founded his first company at the same time and quickly oriented it towards penetration testing and high-security hosting. He was also deeply involved in Magento’s community creation & animation in France and versed in eCommerce (wrote 4 books on the topic).

In 2020, he founded CrowdSec, a company editing an eponymous open-source and collaborative IPS, leveraging both IP behavior & reputation to create a community and tackle the mass scale hacking problem. His crushes will forever be IT security, DevSecOps, and entrepreneurship.

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For a special in-person recording, today Laura and Kevin sit down with Raj Chandrasekar, the Chief Technology and Innovation Officer of Consilio. We talk all things AI including Consilio's Complete AI Suite, retrieval-augmented generation (RAG), if hallucinations will slow eDiscovery's adoption of GenAI and whether its a good idea to use ChatGPT to write your love poems. You don't want to miss this pod!

Raj Chandrasekar is Chief Technology and Innovation Officer of Consilio where he oversees Consilio’s technology and innovation functions – merging Development and Engineering, Infrastructure, Security, Product Management, Business Intelligence, and Corporate Services functions. In his role, Raj frequently interfaces with clients to understand and accommodate processing, security and uptime needs and is also responsible for the day-to-day operations along with day-to-day operations of our industry-leading eDiscovery and legal industry software solutions. He joined Consilio from First Advantage, where he held the position of Chief Information Officer. Raj has over 25 years of experience in the field of Software Development and Infrastructure Management and has held technology leadership positions in various large corporations.

Consilio stands as the global leader in eDiscovery, document review, flexible legal talent, and legal advisory & transformation consulting services. With its Consilio Complete suite of capabilities, the company empowers multinational law firms and corporations using innovative software, cost-effective managed services, and deep legal and regulatory industry expertise. Renowned for its expertise in litigation, HSR second requests, internal and regulatory investigations, eDiscovery, document review, information governance, compliance risk assessments, cybersecurity, law department management, and contracts management, Consilio also excels in legal staffing and recruitment through its Lawyers On Demand division. Consilio globally employs leading professionals in the industry, applying defensible workflows with patented and industry-proven technology across all phases of the eDiscovery and risk management lifecycle. ISO\IEC 27001:2013 certified, the company operates offices, document review, and data centers across Europe, Asia, and North America.

Discover more about Consilio’s commitment to legal excellence and innovation at www.consilio.com

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Today Laura and Kevin are joined by Booz Allen Hamilton's CTO Susan Penfield and Credo AI's CEO Navrina Singh to talk about responsible AI. We chat about their partnership, the origins of AI, who the early and late adaptors of AI are, the differences between public and private models and so, so much more! You don't want to miss this amazing conversation.

Susan Penfield is Booz Allen’s chief technology officer and a member of the Leadership Team. Susan accelerates growth through mission-centric innovation and infrastructure through incubating and exploring technology innovation, driving adoption of reusable solutions and new business models, empowering our technical talent, and enabling enterprise technology. Susan joined Booz Allen ~28 years ago and has transformed numerous business units during her tenure. Prior to her current role, she led strategic innovation initiatives. She also led the firm’s billion-dollar digital business spanning the defense, national security, and civilian sectors.

Susan was recognized as a 2021 Woman Who Means Business by the Washington Business Journal. She received the 2020 WashingtonExec Lifetime Achievement Award for her pioneering work driving technology innovation in government and her commitment to cultivating the next generation of women in STEM. Susan is a four-time recipient of the Wash100 award that recognizes the most influential leaders in the government consulting sector. Additional honors include ELLE magazine’s 2020 Power List for Women in Tech, WashingtonExec’s 2019 Top 25 Executives to Watch, and the 2017 Girls Inc. Diamond Award for her contributions to the growth and empowerment of girls.

Navrina Singh is the Founder and CEO of Credo AI, a Governance SaaS platform empowering enterprises to deliver Responsible AI. A technology leader with over 18+ years experience in Enterprise SaaS, AI and Mobile, Navrina has held multiple product and business leadership roles at Microsoft and Qualcomm. Navrina is a member of the U.S. Department of Commerce National Artificial Intelligence Advisory Committee (NAIAC), which advises the President and the National AI Initiative Office. Navrina is an executive board member of Mozilla Foundation. Navrina is also a young global leader with the World economic forum & was on their future council for AI guiding policies & regulations in responsible AI. Navrina holds a Masters in Electrical and Computer Engineering from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, an MBA from University of Southern California Marshall School of Business and a Bachelors in Electronics and Telecommunication Engineering from College of Engineering, India.

Booz Allen Hamilton is a global firm of approximately 32,600 diverse, passionate, and exceptional people driven to excel, do right, and realize positive change in everything they do. Booz Allen brings bold thinking and a desire to be the best in their work in consulting, analytics, digital solutions, engineering, and cyber, and with industries ranging from defense to health to energy to international development.

Credo AI is on a mission to empower organizations to create AI with the highest ethical standards. Their vision is to enable continuous human oversight of the frontier technologies and democratize AI governance/audit. They are building an intelligent SaaS to monitor, measure and manage AI introduced risks.

Additional Reference links:

  • Booz Allen Ventures website
  • Booz Allen AI website
  • Velocity

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Today Laura and Kevin are discussing Legal Week 2024 on this special bonus episode of That Tech Pod! From new and emerging trends to the latest developments in legal technology, they'll give you an inside look at everything that's happening on the conference floor, at the sessions, at the events surrounding the conference and so much more!

We discuss the companies, the people, and the swag that make Legalweek such an exciting event. We also have live interviews with Doug Austin, the editor of eDiscovery Today and Jen Sherman, Chief Product and Experience Officer at CARET Legal, a global leader in practice management solutions catering to professional services firms

With insightful analysis and a fun, engaging approach, Kevin and Laura will make you feel like you're right there with them, experiencing all the excitement and energy of Legalweek. Don't miss out on this must-listen episode of That Tech Pod!

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Today Laura and Kevin are live at Legalweek 2024 and met up with Amy Hilbert and Amit Dungarani of Casepoint. We discuss all things Legalweek, Legalweek's relevance in 2024, whether this conference is better in March instead of January, what makes Casepoint different, why Casepoint decided to focus on government when everyone else was shifting towards corporations, Casepoint FOIA and Casepoint Legal Hold, GenAI and what's next for Casepoint. Lastly, we chat about Casepoint's big win with DHS/ICE and migration to the cloud from Relativity server before heading back out to the floor.

Amy Hilbert is Casepoint’s Executive Vice President of Government Solutions where she is responsible for creating and managing client relationships with federal and state government agencies. She brings 20+ years of experience supporting Federal-Civilian and DoD clients. Prior to joining Casepoint, Amy was Vice President of Client Services at a leading Gov Con Professional Services company focused on software integration where she was accountable for the execution and growth of Federal-Civilian and DoD clients. During her time at Casepoint, Amy has created a Government Solutions organization that includes sales and dedicated government services to government clients, including the U.S. Securities and Exchange Commission, U.S. Courts, Veteran’s Affairs and Department of Defense. Amy’s previous experience has given her a business acumen that is parallel to none. Amy’s industry knowledge, IT strategy background, and account management experience aid her in being a trusted resource for eDiscovery solutions to meet clients’ specific needs.

Amit Dungarani has played critical roles in helping build and grow companies. Over the past 21 years, he has held leadership roles in technology, private equity, hedge fund management, and consulting serving corporate, government, law firm, and non-profit clients. Before joining Casepoint, Amit served as a Managing Director of a family office that ran a hedge fund and led private equity investing via a syndicate of family offices. Prior to this, he served as Vice President of Business and Information Technology Consulting Services at 2020 Company (later acquired by Acentia and Maximus) helping grow it from under 10 people to over 600. As Casepoint’s Vice President of Partnerships and Strategic Initiatives, he is responsible for building foundational partnerships and supporting major corporate clients to achieve their optimal success.

Casepoint is the legal technology platform of choice for corporations, government agencies, and law firms to meet their complex eDiscovery, investigations, and compliance needs. Powered by cutting-edge AI and advanced analytics, Casepoint helps teams cut through large volumes of data to quickly identify insightful and actionable information. Casepoint’s secure and scalable cloud platform is designed to help organizations take control of their data and processes to maximize efficiency, mitigate risk, and lower overall legal spend. Casepoint’s easy-to-use and intuitive interface provides legal hold, cloud collections, powerful data processing, AI and advanced analytics, and review and production.

Want to connect with us at Legalweek 2024? Send us an email

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Today Kevin and Laura speak with Tim Hwang about what it means to be an entrepreneur, the difficulty for medical professions to get financing, doctors as businesses, whether we should switch to a fee for service model, why vets make way less than other medical professionals and whether it makes sense to become a corrupt doctor.

Tim Hwang is a highly regarded entrepreneur known for his groundbreaking work in the fintech and healthcare industries. He is the Chairman of the Board of Nitra, a smart finance platform designed to transform financial management for healthcare providers. Tim is also the CEO and co-founder of FiscalNote, a global technology and media company dedicated to delivering up-to-date policy information. He has secured over $230 million in funding from some of the industry's biggest players.

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Today on the pod we find out if Gabi is GONE!

Plus Gabi, Laura and Kevin share our updates and upcoming Legalweek announcements.

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Today Laura and Kevin chat with Jodie Zerega. Jodie is a highly experienced legal recruiter and founder of Zerega Consulting, a recruiting firm that specializes in placing attorneys in law firms, corporations, and non-profit organizations. With the recent launch of the Attorney Jobs app, Jodie can also share a unique perspective on how technology is shaping the legal job market and offer advice on how attorneys can use technology to their advantage.

Can you really get a job in under 6 minutes? Find out here:
https://www.zeregaconsulting.com/attorney-jobs

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Today Kevin and Laura talk with Fergus Hurley. Fergus is the is the co-founder of Google’s AI-powered compliance intelligence platform, Checks. We chat about Google's new AI platform, Gemini. We learn what multimodal AI is and how this is different from Bard and OpenAI. We discuss using Gen AI in the entrainment industry and the writer's strike. We chat about AI bias and even find out about Fergus's favorite Irish whiskey.

Fergus spearheaded the creation of the platform by developing a product that leverages Google's sophisticated AI technology to streamline privacy compliance for some of the industry's leading digital applications such as Miniclip, Headspace, and Rovio.

Fergus is an AI expert and enthusiast with an extensive background spanning over 15 years in the realms of mobile apps, and digital product development. In his prior role, he served as a zero-to-one focused product manager at Google Play, where he played a pivotal part in enhancing the Android user experience on a global scale. Preceding this, he made significant contributions to Google Research, focusing his expertise on Google Assistant and Waze Carpool.

Fergus holds a Master's degree in Electrical Engineering and Computer Science from the Massachusetts Institute of Technology (MIT) and a Bachelor's degree in Electrical Engineering from University College Cork in Ireland.

Please visit checks.google.com to learn more about Fergus' current platform.

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As we navigate the ever-evolving landscape of technology, 2024 promises to be a year of exciting advancements. That's why this week Laura and Kevin make predictions for the top technology of 2024. Plus we're together and in a bar! We breakdown our top companies and gadgets fantasy football draft style.

We also want to thank you for listening in 2023! You all are amazing!

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Have you ever wondered what it takes to survive a plane crash and bounce back from it? Today Laura and Kevin chat with Peter Schroeder, an entrepreneurial DJ who has done exactly that. Not only has he overcome a traumatic plane crash, but he has also risen to become one of Denmark's top DJs, entertaining audiences of up to 180,000!

In addition to his artistic talents, Peter is the founder of Telzio, a pre-unicorn unified communications company that simplifies technology and makes people's lives easier. With over 20 years of experience creating cutting-edge technologies for companies such as Facebook, Samsung, and Airbnb, Peter's unique combination of technology expertise and artistic perspective would provide valuable takeaways for your listeners. He can also share insights on managing overwhelm and the power of focus.

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Today Laura and Kevin chat with Aaron Painter, the CEO of Nametag Inc. After watching too many friends and family members fall victim to identity theft and online fraud, Aaron Painter assembled a team of security and tech experts to build the next generation of online account protection. We speak about facial recognition, Microsoft's culture, deep fakes, Kashmir Hill's book, Your Face Belongs to Us: A Secretive Startup's Quest to End Privacy as We Know It and the rise of Clearview AI, plus Aaron's book, LOYAL: A Leader's Guide to Winning Customer and Employee Loyalty.

Aaron is the CEO of Nametag Inc, the company who invented “Sign in with ID” as a more secure alternative to passwords. Aaron and his team focus on automating visual identity verification, preventing fraud and account takeovers, reducing support costs, and eliminating user frustration during account lockouts or high-value transaction authorizations. Aaron has successfully integrated his human identity platform with major organizations such as Reddit and Web.com. He’s all about protecting accounts from impersonators

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Jessica Nelson Kohel about fractional product management. We chat about the differences between fractional and consulting, the pros and cons of contractors, starting a business in today's market, the best shoe brands, Laura's height, and whether we to expect to see Laura and Jessica running marathons in the near future.

Jessica is the Co-Founder and President/COO at The Product Consult, a boutique consulting group that helps companies optimize their digital product development teams, build better products, and accelerate revenue growth. Jessica has 18+ years of experience in digital product development, with expertise in revenue growth, product optimization, product strategy, and team development.

The Product Consult team has worked with cross-industry startups and Fortune 500 companies including Alo Yoga, Coterie Baby, Epic Games and Nike, where Jessica built the first-ever digital gift card platform for Nike.com.

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Today Kevin and Laura speak with Chris Rock (no, not that one!) about being a cyber mercenary, a world of fake babies whose “burner identities” could be used to rake in millions, his book The Baby Harvest, hacking the TED talk people and the benefits of having a celebrity's name and so much more!

Chris Rock is a Cyber Mercenary who has worked in the Middle East, US and Asia for the last 30 years working for both government and private organizations. He is the Chief Information Security Officer and co-founder of SIEMonster.

A three-time presenter at DEFCON and author of The Baby Harvest, Chris is a database of cybersecurity, hacking, and cybercriminal knowledge. Chris and his team excel at countering sophisticated cyber threats with the implementation of advanced SIEM methods for all types of organizations. Chris is passionate about raising the public’s awareness of modern cybersecurity threats and trends.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin chat with Michael Quartararo, the President of the Association of Certified E-Discovery Specialists (ACEDS) about the International eDiscovery Executive Certificate Program.

ACEDS provides training and certification in e-discovery and professional development courses to corporate legal departments, law firms and the broader legal community. With 1400 CEDS-certified professionals and 2500 members active in 22 chapters throughout major US cities, Canada, the UK, Benelux, South Africa and Australia, ACEDS is the gold standard in e-discovery training. Mike is also the author of the 2016 book Project Management in Electronic Discovery and has been teaching, consulting and solving problems in information governance, e-discovery, project management and legal technology for over two decades. He is considered one of the foremost authorities on legal project management and built his career upon strategic and innovative thinking, leadership and operational skills honed at the best legal organizations in the world. Following 10-year stints at both Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP and Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP, Mike launched his own successful company, eDPM Advisory Services, a consulting firm providing legal operations, e-discovery and project management advisory services to corporate legal departments and law firms. As a part-time graduate professor, Mike designed and taught a curriculum on e-discovery project management at Bryan University. A graduate of the State University of New York, he is a certified Project Management Professional (PMP) and a Certified E-Discovery Specialist (CEDS). He frequently writes and speaks on e-discovery, legal operations, project management and technology topics. Reach him via email at mquartararo@aceds.org or on Twitter @mikequartararo.

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Today Kevin and Laura speak with JB ‘Jor-El’ Benjamin, the Founder of Kryotech Ltd. We discuss secure messaging apps, crypto and the blockchain. We also chat ethical AI, the UK's AI framework and whether we should trust the Musk's and Altman's of the world.

JB isn't your run-of-the-mill developer; he's a tech maverick reshaping the digital landscape from his UK base just outside London. JB is the mastermind behind numerous groundbreaking applications and platforms that have revolutionized the digital world. Boasting a prolific portfolio, JB has created the world's first post-quantum encrypted messenger Vox Messenger, and the unprecedented group transaction crypto wallet, Vox Crypto. He bridges the gap between possibility and reality with his solutions to pressing global challenges.

Also, as mentioned at the top of this week’s pod, That Tech Pod is supporting Pizza4Moms, a charity feeding families impacted by the ongoing conflict in Israel. Pizza4moms is collecting funds and donating meals (a pizza and a salad) to those in need in the region. Please considering participating with us: https://pizza4moms.com/#welcome

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Today Laura and Kevin chat with Oshri Cohen about what it means to be a fractional CTO versus a full-time CTO and whether or not you can or should consider vending out your C-suite. With Kevin’s past CTO roles, this one hits close to home and gets a little tense…

Oshri Cohen is an expert technologist in more languages, frameworks, architectures and technologies than he cares to count. He is an ex-executive at multiple startups and ex-founder of his own custom development shop. He is disrupting the popular thought that startups need a full-time CTO and could save on average $400K per year in direct technical leadership costs through the use of a Fractional-CTO, which is his primary business.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Pete Hunt. We chat about what it means to be an engineer, how to tell if an engineer is good and how you get from engineer to CEO, plus Pete weighs in on the Zuck vs Musk debate with his unique perspective having worked at both Instagram and Twitter.

Pete joined Elementl as head of engineering in early 2022, and took over the reins as CEO in November of that year. Pete was previously co-founder and CEO of Smyte, an anti-abuse provider that was acquired by Twitter. Prior to this Pete led Instagram’s web team, built Instagram’s business analytics products, and helped to open source Facebook’s React.js. Their platform is Dagster, a next-generation open source orchestration platform for the development, production, and observation of data assets.

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Today Kevin and Laura chat with David Cohen of Reed Smith about their eDiscovery-focused app with the aim of creating a less cumbersome, and fast-updating repository of knowledge, documents and tips for attorneys and clients on the go. We talk about "intense AI," and the convergence of eDiscovery and data privacy. We discuss whether we still need the "e" in eDiscovery and if it is better to be a "master of all" or a legal specialist in 2023. We also cover access to justice issues and other terms that sound like classic Steven Seagal movies. You don't want to miss this pod!

David is chair of Reed Smith’s Records & E-Discovery (RED) Practice Group and a member of the firm’s Global Leadership Team. A Harvard Law graduate with more than 35 years of commercial litigation experience, David serves as eDiscovery counsel and information governance counsel to some of the top companies in the world. David also represents clients in complex litigation matters, and counsels companies of all sizes on information governance and litigation readiness issues.

He has been recognized individually by Chambers Global, Chambers USA, Super Lawyers, Best Lawyers, and Who’s Who Legal as a top eDiscovery lawyer and litigator. The 70+ lawyer RED Practice Group that David leads has also been recognized by Chambers and Legal 500 as a leading eDiscovery practice. He currently chairs the EDRM Project Trustees and serves on the advisory board of the Georgetown Advanced eDiscovery Institute.

He was involved in setting up the E-Discovery Special Masters (EDSM) program in the U.S. District Court for the Western District of Pennsylvania, has served as an EDSM in multiple cases, and has drafted and supported amendments to state and federal rules focusing on e-discovery. He has authored numerous legal publications and is a frequent presenter at continuing legal education seminars regarding eDiscovery and information governance. He is the principal architect of the E-Discovery App, launched in 2020, and leads ongoing App development and innovation initiatives. David also received a Law 2.0 “Outstanding Leadership” award in 2022 and the Legal Intelligencer Pennsylvania “Innovator of the Year” award in 2023.

You can download the Reed Smith’s eDiscovery app from the Apple Store or Google Play:

https://apps.apple.com/us/app/e-discovery-app/id1494005095

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.ncc809328710.www&hl=en_US≷=US&pli=1

The primary goal of the Reed Smith’s eDiscovery App is to be a useful resource for everyone in the e-discovery community! App development was led by Reed Smith Partner David Cohen, Practice Group Leader of Reed Smith’s Records & E-Discovery (RED) practice group, with important contributions by lawyers, e-discovery analysts, and support professionals at Reed Smith LLP and its technology subsidiary Gravity Stack. Where permitted and acknowledged, the App also includes, or links to, materials created or compiled by outside professionals.

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Laura, Kevin and Shelby talk about the The Lesbians Who Tech Summit that Laura and Shelby attended in San Francisco last week.

The 10th Annual Lesbians Who Tech & Allies Summit takes place virtually and in front of the Castro Theatre and surrounding city blocks. The show attracts over 15K+ LGBTQ Women, Women of Color, Non-Binary, Trans techies & our Allies to attend from all over the world.

Lesbians Who Tech & Allies is the largest LGBTQ professional community in the world — committed to visibility, intersectionality, and changing the face of technology and most importantly, the only organization that centers on LGBTQ Women, Women of color, and Non-binary leaders. This event supports the work helping our leaders learn how to code and get the crucial support they need as they face systemic barriers at work.

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Today is our Halloween Special! Laura and Kevin swap scary cyber stories with Gianna Whitver, the Co-Founder and CEO of the Cybersecurity Marketing Society and a co-host of the Breaking Through in Cybersecurity Marketing Podcast.

Gianna is also an advisor for cybersecurity and technology companies. Gianna has worked in marketing as an early employee at multiple companies in a broad array of industries, including past roles at cybersecurity companies, at a commercial real estate development and investment firm, and big tech, to name a few. She speaks publicly on marketing, cybersecurity, and entrepreneurial topics, having presented at RSA Conference 365, (ISC)2, and InfoSec World.

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Today Kevin and Laura speak with David Adeoye Abodunrin about cyber threat intelligence, compliance versus cyber security and human firewalls. We get into a debate about Zuckerburg vs. Musk, being a prince and much more!

With a remarkable track record spanning over two decades, David Adeoye Abodunrin PMP, CSM, CSPO, CSP-SM, MSC is a distinguished authority in Project/Program Management, Agile Transformations, Human Capital Management, Cybersecurity, and Coaching, offering a multifaceted approach to personal and professional and enterprise growth. Holding a plethora of certifications, including being a Certified Scrum Professional- Scrum Master(CSP-SM), Certified Management Consultant (CMC) and Project Management Professional (PMP), he stands as a versatile figure equipped to navigate complex landscapes.

Armed with a master's degree in Cybersecurity and specialization in Cyber Forensics and Threat Intelligence, David illuminates strategies to combat cyber threats, safeguard digital ecosystems, and address the nuances of cyberwarfare. His insights resonate with individuals and organizations seeking to fortify their online security measures.

David's Agile PM, HR and Corporate leadership acumen sets him apart. By harmonizing his psychology, coaching, project management, and agile expertise, he empowers organizations to embrace agility in their enterprise practices, fostering leadership excellence. His holistic approach extends beyond conventional methodologies, enabling businesses to navigate dynamic environments with adaptability and innovation.

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Today Laura and guest host Shelby Busch speak with Alaina Percival about increasing opportunities for woman in tech fields, angel investing, living in Germany and travel in general.

Alaina Percival is CEO and co-founder of Women Who Code. Under Alaina’s
leadership, the organization has grown to serve 343,000 members in 147
countries. Alaina has been published by Forbes, Huffington Post, and The Wall
Street Journal. She is an accomplished tech speaker, appearing at WSJ.d Live,
CodeMotion Milan, Grace Hopper, Columbia University’s Social Enterprise,
Harvard WECode and more. Alaina has spoken on a range of topics from
development and retention models to intersectional diversity and
equity-centered decision-making in data strategy for the United Nations to
Social Justice and Advocacy in STEM at Harvard University.

Alaina is also an Angel Investor, a Venture Partner at Valor Ventures, a Scout
for Picus Capital, and in 2022 she taught WomenLead in Technology at Georgia State University. Alaina has two young sons, loves chocolate, and has been to more than 75 countries

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Today Kevin and Laura talk to William McKnight about big data in healthcare, the pros and cons of companies knowing this much about us, being a corporate influencer and much more!

William McKnight is an information management thought-leader who has been recognized as the #1 global influencer in big data, cloud, and data center by Thinkers 360, and the #1 global influencer in master data management by Onalytica in 2022.

He is the Founder and President of McKnight Consulting Group, which advises many of the Global 2000 companies, including Pfizer, Verizon, UnitedHealth Group, Dell, Oracle, and Scotiabank, on ways to faster grow their businesses with big data.

With over 30 years of experience, William is also a highly sought-after speaker who has spoken on four continents for a diverse collection of organizations, including IBM, Microsoft, Oracle, Bank of America, Orange South Africa, and SAP. He also is a former award-winning IT Vice President of a Fortune 50 company, a former engineer of DB2 at IBM, and an author of the books, "Integrating Hadoop", "Information Management: Strategies for Gaining a Competitive Advantage with Data", and "90 Days to Success in Consulting".

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Today Laura and Gabi speak with Elisa Jaffe on the impact of technology on the ever-changing landscape of the consumption of information.

Elisa Jaffe is well-known to both TV viewers and radio listeners in Western Washington.
Elisa has earned an Edward R. Murrow award and multiple Emmy Awards and for her reporting, writing, and producing. Her career in Seattle includes reporting and anchoring for KOMO 4 News, serving as host and executive producer of Northwest Afternoon, the award-winning daily talk show, hosted the morning drive news radio program Smart Talk Mornings on 570 KVI, and voice-over work for STAR 101.5 Radio and charitable causes.

Elisa launched KOMO TV's station's first hour-long morning newscast, "The Morning Express," in 1989 where she introduced Dept. of Transportation traffic cameras to the market after using the then-new technology in one of her news reports. During her journalism career, she covered 9-11, the Oklahoma City bombing, the deadly Northridge, California earthquake, the fall of famous evangelists, and the rise of many reality stars.

Elisa is very active in the Greater Seattle community and often can be seen emceeing and supporting fundraisers for a number of organizations. She is a busy single mom who devotes much of her spare time to non-profits including the Crisis Clinic of King County, Seattle Men's Chorus and Seattle Women's Chorus. Elisa holds a Bachelor of Journalism from the University of Missouri at the Columbia School of Journalism.

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Today Laura and Kevin chat about Relativity Fest 2023. Laura was onsite in Chicago while Kevin attended virtually. Laura spoke with the Honorable Judge Toni Clarke, Jeff Henry and Stephanie Wilkins on the floor and attended the press briefing where she had a chance to interview Relativity CEO Phil Saunders and Dr. Aron Ahmadia. Laura and Kevin talk about the sessions, the conference set up, the Innovation Awards, Phil Saunders’ take on sunsetting Relativity, Dr. Ahmadia’s take on incorporating generative AI into review and much more!

Relativity Fest is an annual conference held in Chicago designed to educate and connect the e-discovery community. It’s the place for legal and tech professionals to talk shop, connect with their peers, and learn from each other in panels, discussions, breakout sessions, networking events and trainings.

Phil Saunders is the CEO of Relativity. He is a seasoned technology executive with a hands-on approach to leading core company functions in hardware, software and SaaS, with specific experience in the information security, data protection, Human Resource (HR) tech, and quickly ramping in all things Legal Tech. Prior to joining Relativity, he was the CEO of Cornerstone on Demand and Saba Software.

Dr. Aron Ahmadia is the Senior Director for Applied Science at Relativity, where he leads the development of AI capabilities for Relativity One, including AI-Assisted Review, Analytics, and Search. He is an internationally recognized expert on machine learning and artificial intelligence. His specializations include the use of AI in Legal Discovery, Model Risk Management, and Responsible AI. Dr. Ahmadia previously held an adjunct faculty position with George Washington University, and was an inaugural Professor of Computer Science at KAUST, where he taught one of the first coed classes in the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia. Dr. Ahmadia holds a Ph.D. in Applied Math from Columbia University and a B.S. in Computer Engineering from the Illinois Institute of Technology.

The Honorable Judge Toni Clark, was an Associate Judgein Prince George's County Circuit Court, 7th Judicial Circuit from 1998 to 2018 when she retired. She was a member of the Public Awareness Committee from 2001-15, the Maryland Judicial Conference, the Chair of the Public Defender Regional Advisory Board from 2001 to 2009. She was a member of the Court Access and Community Relations Committee and the Judicial Council. She was an Associate County Attorney in Prince George's County from 1987 to 1989. She was a Member of the Special Joint Committee on Minorities in the Legal Profession, a member of the Redistricting Commission in Prince George's County in 1991, and a State's Attorney, Prince George's County from 1994-95. She also served a member of the Governor's Task Force on Judicial Nominating Commissions and the State Administrative Board of Election Laws.

Jeff Henry is the Director of Sales at Hire Counsel. He is an experienced Director of Business Development with over 30 years of experience working in the legal services industry. He is a strong sales professional skilled in Litigation Management, Arbitration, Sales, Document Management, and Computer Forensics. He previously worked for Exterro, Aureus Tech Systems, ONE Discovery Inc., iCONECT, IPRO and IKON Office Solutions as well as others.

Stephanie Wilkins is the Editor In Chief of Legaltech News. She is responsible for content and direction of the Legaltech News publication on the popular Law.com website. She writes on all issues pertaining to technology in the legal sector, with a particular emphasis on the generative AI. She is also a photographer, an AI and technology nerd, a former lawyer, an intrepid solo world traveler and a boxer in training.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Meredith Rodkey about content management, modular marketing, generative AI, and content as Legos.

Meredith is the SVP of Platform Product Management at Brightspot. She has focused on product management for nearly 15 years, working closely with major Brightspot customers like the Los Angeles Times, NPR, Johnson & Johnson, U.S. News & World Report, and Healthgrades.

In her previous life, Meredith worked as a homepage editor and writer for AOL.com, curating a daily experience for millions of users.

Brightspot’s content management solution enables its customers to quickly launch and manage content experiences across any device by offering an intuitive and customizable platform that can meet unique content, display, and workflow requirements. Brightspot’s comprehensive suite of flexible technology, expert services, and partner ecosystem provides businesses with the tools necessary to successfully deliver on their digital strategy.

https://www.brightspot.com/?utm_campaign=That%20Tech%20Pod&utm_source=Partner%20-%20Aitheras&utm_medium=podcast&utm_content=Homepage

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Today is a very special episode. It is our 150th episode!

To celebrate, Laura and Kevin welcome Tim Tutt, CEO & cofounder at Night Shift Development. We talk about his company’s origins, bootstrapping vs. taking on funding, startup best practices, augmented intelligence, the ribs at Earl’s Kitchen and Bar and more!

Tim Tutt is a proven technical leader with over a decade of software engineering experience focused specifically on developing and deploying large-scale search and discovery and data analytics solutions in both the public and private sectors. He has a strong passion for operationalizing deep technical capabilities for the benefit of non-technical business users.

As an Elastic Certified Engineer Tim has deep experience using Elasticsearch for a variety of use cases. As the Chief Technology officer of Bogart Associates, he led the development and creation of a best-in-class, easy to use, secure communications solution ultimately leading to Bogart’s first issued patent. Tim is currently the CEO and Cofounder of Night Shift Development, Inc., which focuses on helping organizations make sense of their data. Using his background in natural language processing, machine learning, and data analytics, he created and productized a solution aimed at allowing non-technical users to have conversational experience with their data.

Thank you to all of our listeners!

-The Entire That Tech Pod Team

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Today Laura and Kevin chat with Tom Kemp about angel investing and venture capital money. Tom breaks down his process for selecting investments. We also discuss his new book.

Tom Kemp is a Silicon Valley-based entrepreneur, investor, and policy advisor. Tom is also the author of Containing Big Tech: How to Protect Our Civil Rights, Economy, and Democracy. Tom was the founder and CEO of Centrify, a leading cybersecurity cloud provider that amassed over two thousand enterprise customers, including over 60 percent of the Fortune 50. For his leadership, Tom was named by Ernst & Young as Finalist for Entrepreneur of the Year in Northern California. Tom is also an active Silicon Valley angel investor, with seed investments in over a dozen tech start-ups with a focus on privacy and cybersecurity. In addition, Tom has served as a technology policy advisor for political campaigns and advocacy groups, including leading the campaign marketing efforts in 2020 to pass California Proposition 24—the California Privacy Rights Act (CPRA)—and co-authoring bills such as the California Delete Act of 2023. Tom holds a Bachelor of Science degree in computer science and in history from the University of Michigan.

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Today Laura and Kevin discuss Reveal's recent acquisition of Logikcull and IPRO. We breakdown the impact on the market for companies such as Relativity, Disco, Everlaw and iConect. We do some math and try to figure out exactly what the numbers from their press release mean. We also talk about layoffs and the WARN act. 

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Today Kevin and Laura talk speak with Joy Murao. We talk about the importance of training, big law vs. boutique law firms, the idea of going to law school in 2023, H1B visa's, Kim Kardashian, Chat GPT and much more!

Joy Murao is a legal technology pioneer with a career spanning over 25 years in Big Law and Corporate Legal Departments. Now as Founder and CEO of Practice Aligned Resources (PAR), Joy brings innovation and education to the broader legal arena to include government agencies, small to mid-size law firms and service provider organizations.

Throughout her career, Joy has made significant contributions to the legal field. She played a pivotal role in developing and overseeing the Practice Support Departments at prestigious law firms such as Latham & Watkins and Paul Hastings. With her expertise, she has hired and managed over 200 direct reports, supported firm-wide practices areas including litigation cases, global M&A projects and employment class actions, while also shouldering the responsibility of training and educating lawyers and paralegals within these firms.

Joy's influence extends beyond her own ventures, as she actively contributes to various professional organizations. Currently, she serves as a Section Executive Committee Chair for the California Lawyers Association, specifically in the Law Practice Management & Technology section. Additionally, she holds a position on the Global Advisory Board for the Association of Certified Ediscovery Specialists (ACEDS).

Recognized for her dedication to fostering a strong legal community, Joy has actively collaborated with Women in eDiscovery, ILTA, the Relativity Users' Group Advisory Board for Los Angeles and various paralegal organizations. Through her involvement in these organizations, she has helped bring professionals together and facilitate the exchange of knowledge and best practices.

Joy's educational background includes a BA in English from UC Santa Barbara and a Paralegal Certificate from the University of San Diego. She has utilized her expertise to create and teach legal technology courses at the Paralegal Training Program of UCLA Extension. Moreover, Joy leads engaging discussions on legal technology through podcasts and webinars, providing valuable insights to the legal community.

With her extensive experience, leadership, and commitment to the advancement of legal technology, Joy Murao has made a profound impact on the legal profession and continues to drive innovation in the field.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Jeff Reinke about the labor and supply chain issues, AI, EV cars and mileage mange anxiety, hydrogen cars and more!

Jeff Reinke is the director of content and audience engagement at Industrial Media, which encompasses brands such as Industrial Equipment News, Manufacturing Business Technology and Manufacturing.net. He also co-hosts the Today in Manufacturing and Security Breach podcasts.

With over 20 years of experience in creating and managing strategic content in the business-to-business marketplace, he has served audiences in the automotive, manufacturing, medical, and product development industries. During this time, he has partnered with several leading industry players, such as Microsoft, IBM, DEKA, Cisco, Rockwell, Grainger and many others in producing blogs, articles and video. 

He holds a Bachelor of Arts & Communication degree from the University of Wisconsin-Whitewater and served in the Army Reserve for 12 years, including time as a drill sergeant. 

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BONUS EPISODE: Laura and Kevin discuss the Blackhat 2023 conference in Las Vegas. We discuss Informa, the booths and the people. We judge the swag and the parties. We are joined by LeeAnne Pelzer, a Director on Palo Alto Network's Cyber Risk Management consulting team who was with Laura for part of the event.

LeeAnne Pelzer is a Director on Palo Alto Network's Cyber Risk Management consulting team. She has nearly 10 years of experience serving clients in both commercial and federal spaces, and she currently serves as Palo Alto Network's Global Service Lead for Cybersecurity Risk Assessments and Cybersecurity Program Development. As a professional services provider, LeeAnne is passionate about tailoring risk management strategies to fulfill her clients' unique risk appetites and organizational needs. Whether she is serving as a vCISO, conducting risk assessments, building world-class security programs, or hosting board-level conversations about cybersecurity, LeeAnne takes great pride in assisting enterprises in keeping pace with the ever-changing cybersecurity landscape.

Black Hat is an internationally recognized cybersecurity event series providing the most technical and relevant information security research. Grown from a single annual conference to the most respected information security event series internationally, these multi-day events provide the security community with the latest cutting-edge research, developments, and trends.

Black Hat Briefings and Trainings are driven by the needs of the global security community, striving to bring together the best minds in the industry. Black Hat inspires professionals at all career levels, encouraging growth and collaboration among academia, world-class researchers and leaders in the public and private sectors. Today, Black Hat Briefings and Trainings are held annually in the United States, Europe, and Asia, providing premier venues for elite security researchers and trainers to find their audience.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Karimah Campbell from Relativity. They chat about the diversity and inclusion in the workplace. They discuss Relativity as an employer, Karimah's podcast Black Tech Queens (https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOHL1SfZwAukRv-Nk6KU9_jXS5vR3Scc6) and the launch of BYP Legal Tech.

With over 12 years experience in eDiscovery and legal technology, Karimah Campbell leads the EMEA Customer Success Management team at Relativity. As well as her love for technology, Karimah has a passion for inclusion, diversity, equity and belonging, with a focus on race, gender and education. Karimah has been able to drive the Inclusion, Diversity, Equity & Belonging agenda on an industry level in roles as the Membership Director on the inaugural board for Women in eDiscovery London; leading EY’s relationship with the Powerlist (celebrating the 100 most influential Black British people); founding Black Tech Queens and most recently becoming Chief Activator for BYP Legal Tech. All of which has led to her being featured in Computer Weekly Most Influential Women in UK Tech Longlist for 3 consecutive years and recognised as one of the top 100 BAME Leader in Tech by the Financial Times.

BYP Legal Tech:

  • Launch Event registration - https://www.eventbrite.co.uk/e/byp-legal-tech-launch-and-fireside-chat-with-kenya-parrish-dixon-tickets-679973788907
  • LinkedIn Group – https://www.linkedin.com/groups/7439318/

Black Tech Queens:

  • YouTube – https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLOHL1SfZwAukRv-Nk6KU9_jXS5vR3Scc6
  • LinkedIn – https://www.linkedin.com/company/71484353/
  • Instagram – @blacktechqueens

Karimah:

  • Website – www.karimahcampbell.com
  • LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/karimah-campbell/

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Today Kevin and Laura talk with Jim Barker about about satellite imagery, heat maps, IKEA, the movie Enemy of the State and debunking movie tropes like enhancing an image with the click of a mouse. 

Jim Barker leads revenue growth for Live Earth out of Dallas, Texas, helping the world's largest organizations make faster and better decisions with data. Live Earth's
operational analytics and data enrichment platform leverages real-world data with customer data to provide actionable insights allowing them to win in their marketplace over the competition. Jim is a driven sales and marketing leader with 25+ years of experience leading organizations in the technology and communications space.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Fiona Campbell about legal strategy, legal forensics, the impact of legacy tech lingering around, Chat GPT, Open AI, Sarah Silverman, DSARs, and other pain points. We also reminisce about the eDiscovery Ireland conference in 2019 and what lawyers really want. 

Fiona Campbell leads the eDiscovery practice at Fieldfisher, a multinational law firm headquartered in London. She provides commercial and strategic advice to both individuals and corporate entities across a range of business landscapes, industries and sectors on litigation and alternative dispute resolution. Prior to joining Fieldfisher, Fiona worked at a US law firm and as in-house counsel at a number of London-based global consultancies. Fiona has focused on eDiscovery since qualifying as a lawyer, having previously been a barrister and also an in-house counsel focusing on combining law with technology to effectively manage high-profile disputes. Fiona is also an accredited mediator.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Ryan Blaney about health care cybersecurity challenges, privacy on a national and local level and Notre Dame football.

Ryan Blaney is the co-head of the global Privacy & Cybersecurity Group and a partner in the Health Care practice at Proskauer Rose LLP. Ryan’s practice focuses on regulatory compliance, enforcement, litigation and transactions in the areas of data privacy, cybersecurity, health care, and emerging technologies. He advises private equity, asset managers, health care, life sciences, retail and technology clients on privacy and cybersecurity compliance, cybersecurity incidents and government investigations, including acting as lead counsel in defending clients in regulatory investigations by HHS-OCR, DOJ, FTC, FCC and State Attorneys General. Ryan also represents investors and lenders in both health care and privacy and security due diligence and negotiations for mergers and acquisitions, joint ventures, financings and complex commercial agreements. He has expertise counseling clients on emerging artificial intelligence (AI), digital health, health care fraud and abuse, third party reimbursement and FDA regulatory matters. He also has substantial experience in defending health care clients in False Claims Act qui tam matters and has obtained several declinations and dismissals.

Prior to attending law school, Ryan earned a master’s degree in education and taught at an under-resourced Catholic middle school. Outside of his health law practice, Ryan has been repeatedly recognized for his public service and pro bono work. He has successfully handled numerous education-related cases, helped establish three nonprofit organizations and defended qualified recipients of disability benefits.

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Today Kevin and Laura talk to Vikram Chalana, the CEO of Pictory about AI for videos, deep fakes, social networking, entrepreneurship, living in Seattle and India and Kevin's inability to read.

Vikram Chalana is a serial entrepreneur with a passion for creating technologies that give non-experts the capabilities of experts. He believes that Artificial intelligence (AI) and machine learning (ML) have a big role to play in this democratization process.

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Today Laura and Kevin discuss cybersecurity in the medical tech space with Samuel Hill. We cover ransomware, hacking pacemakers, the movie 21 Grams, dismemberment and more!

Samuel Hill is the Product Marketing Director for Cyolo Security. He specializes in critical device security, resilient IT strategies, and process integrity. With a background in the Emergency Room and an M.A. in Strategic Leadership, Samuel is passionate about helping organizations grow and protect themselves effectively in industries such as manufacturing, banking, financial services, insurance, and oil and gas.

Please note that this episode contains discussions of violence and sexual content that some people may find disturbing. If you want to avoid this, skip from 9:59 seconds to 14:50.

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Today Laura and Kevin talk about removing your personal data from the internet with James Wilson of My Data Removal. We expose Kevin's college alias and see if James can wipe it away.  

James Wilson is the founder and CEO of My Data Removal, helping remove your personal information from data brokers and people search websites. Wilson started My Data Removal in 2021 after discovering how much of his and his family’s personal information was online. He has a background in web development, security, government, risk management, and big tech. He has a degree from Brigham Young University. James is passionate about privacy and loves to share and help other be more private. He works hard to live what he preaches. 

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Today Kevin and Laura talk with Chris Roberts, Boom Supersonic's CISO, about aviation technology, the Concorde, hacking all the things (including the Mars Rover!), building planes, epic beards, DefCon, Back to the Future, hover boards and flying cars! Chris also casually confessed to breaking into prison, money laundering and robbing banks.

Chris is the CISO for Boom Supersonic and works as an advisor for several entities and organizations around the globe. His most recent projects are focused within the aerospace, deception, identity, cryptography, Artificial Intelligence, and services sectors. Over the years, he's founded or worked with several folks specializing in OSINT/SIGINT/HUMINT research, intelligence gathering, cryptography, and deception technologies. These days he’s working on spreading the risk, maturity, collaboration, and communication word across the industry.

Since the late 90’s Chris has been deeply involved with security R&D, consulting, and advisory services in his quest to protect and defend businesses and individuals against various types of attack. Prior to that he jumped out of planes for a living, visiting all sorts of interesting countries and cultures while doing his best to avoid getting shot at too often.

He’s considered one of the world’s foremost experts on counter threat intelligence and vulnerability research within the Information Security industry. He’s also gotten a name for himself in the transportation arena, basically anything with wings, wheels, tracks, tyres, fins, props or paddles has been the target for research for the last 15 years.

Chris has led or been involved in information security assessments and engagements for the better part of 25 years and has a wealth of experience with regulations such as GLBA, GDPR, HIPAA, HITECH, FISMA, and NERC/FERC. He has also worked with government, state, and federal authorities on standards such as CMS, ISO, CMMC, and NIST.

Chris has been credentialed in many of the top IT and information security disciplines and as a CyberSecurity advocate and passionate industry voice, he is regularly featured in national newspapers, television news, industry publications and several documentaries.

And worst case, to jog the memory, Chris was the researcher who gained global attention in 2015 for demonstrating the linkage between various aviation systems, both on the ground and while in the air that allowed the exploitation of attacks against flight control system.

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Today Laura and Kevin talk to Scott Newton about strategy consulting and how quantum computing is helping BMW, IKEA, Walmart and Amazon. We talk about Black Opel, an Australian company teaching programming of real quantum computers, https://q-ctrl.com/black-opal. We also dive into the concept of "Explore and Exploit."

Scott Newton is The Managing Partner of Thinking Dimensions, and a member of the Board of Directors at Strategy Tools. 

Mr. Newton works with Boards, CEOs, Private Equity, and senior leaders on Strategy, M&A, and Digital Transformation with an emphasis on embedding sustainability into their business models today and for the future.

Scott and his teams focus on building new business model portfolios, future proofing the organization, and linking impact to sustainable growth and profitability opportunities. The organizations Scott works with achieve speed, alignment, and most importantly sustainable results by focusing on the necessary competencies to develop with a long-term view in mind.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Udi Ledergor of Gong about AI for Sales, the value of sales managers, marketing tactics and living in Israel, plus we get a whiskey recommendation!

Udi Ledergor is a five-time Marketing leader at B2B start-ups and currently the Chief Evangelist at Gong. As Chief Evangelist, Udi oversees Gong’s market leadership through new product launches and thought leadership. On his journey from Marketer #1 to Gong’s Chief Marketing Officer, he led the creation of the revenue intelligence category, pioneered an iconic, human-centric brand, and led Gong's Marketing efforts from zero to hundreds of millions in revenue.

Passionate about startups and brands during the day, whisky, music, and social activism at night, Udi is also an author, speaker, mentor, angel investor, board director, and advisor based in San Francisco.

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Austin Allison, the founder of Zillow, and Spencer Roscoff, the cofounder and former CEO of Zillow have started a new venture, Pacaso, a fractional real estate investing site. David Willbrand joins Laura and Kevin to explain what that is and we discuss if its time for ThatTechPod to buy a baller home somewhere. 

David Willbrand is the Chief Legal Officer of Pacaso. Before joining Pacaso as its Chief Legal Officer, David founded, grew and chaired one of the most prominent startup and venture capital legal practices in the Midwest. He’s the author of “Seed Deals: How to Grow from Startup to Venture Capital,” and he’s a Professor of Law at the University of Michigan, where he teaches an introductory course on Startups & Venture Capital, as well as an advanced course on Mergers & Acquisitions. He loves philosophy, red wine and a good pair of Jordans.

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The artificial intelligence hype is getting out of hand so today Laura and Kevin speak with Mollie Nichols of Redgrave Data to breakdown what is real and what is just noise. 

As the CEO of Redgrave Strategic Data Solutions LLC (“Redgrave Data”), Mollie is a mission-driven, collaborative, and visionary leader of the organization guiding a team of business process, technology, and data professionals to produce data driven solutions that efficiently manage and analyze litigation, compliance, and deal data. She drives the strategic relationships with Redgrave LLP, clients, and service providers, and oversees the development of the team’s approach to the search and analysis of client data in matters using advanced technologies, including machine learning, data visualization, and advanced analytics. 

Mollie’s extensive background and knowledge in the information law field, which includes more than 35 years of experience as a litigator, law professor, and in law firm management. 

Prior to joining Redgrave Data, Mollie served as the Head of Advanced Client Data Solutions at Hogan Lovells, where she was responsible for developing the global business model for client data technology services. Before Hogan, Mollie built an eDiscovery program at Goodwin Procter and was a partner at Redgrave LLP. Mollie has tried more than 25 cases as lead counsel during her career. She was formerly an Assistant U.S. Attorney in Texas, a Special Assistant Attorney General for the State of Texas, and worked in private practice as a litigator. 

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Nigel Cannings on all things voice tech related. We learn that Twitter trending is Nigel's fault. We also discuss the only 4 things people use their Alexa's for, plus smart transcripts and more!

Nigel Cannings is founder and CTO at Intelligent Voice. Nigel has over 25 years' experience in both Law and Technology.  He is a pioneer in all things voice, holding over a dozen patents in the field, including patents for NLP and SmartTranscript.

Nigel’s work in NLP started in 2008 when he wrote the first Twitter trending tool (before Twitter). His interest in language lead him to look at all forms of communication, and he started Intelligent Voice to look at audio and video as well as email and text.  Mainly due to a misunderstanding about what the art if the possible might be he released first commercially available GPU accelerated speech recognition algorithm in 2014.  In part this lead to him winning the NVIDIA Emerging Companies Innovation Award on behalf of the company in 2016.

In the same year he started pioneering work on the use of CNNs of spectrograms in speech recognition:  Today, AI processing of spectrograms is seen as the best way of processing audio to text. Nigel has also been recipient of multiple UK government and EU grants, which included £2.2m Innovate UK Grant for Emotional AI and NLP.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Jeffrey Wolff and Sebastian Sutherland about CLOC Global Institute. We also address a negative email we received about IPRO. 

Jeffrey Wolff, CEDS serves as Director of Corporate Solutions at IPRO. He is responsible for product direction and marketing strategy for IPRO’s corporate solutions market. Mr. Wolff brought with him over 25 years of experience in information systems and enterprise software solutions before joining IPRO in 2015. 

Sebastian Sutherland has extensive experience in sales leadership and business development in the legal technology industry. He is currently the VP of Sales at IPRO, where he is responsible for helping clients improve their compliance, investigations, and litigation processes through technology and modern workflows. Sebastian has helped clients simplify and automate complex legal tasks, where he helped corporate clients gain visibility into the data that govern their businesses. 

The Corporate Legal Operations Consortium (CLOC) is a global community of experts focused on redefining the business of law. CLOC Global Institute is a leading event in Las Vegas May 15-My 18th. It brings together the entire legal ecosystem to focus on legal innovation and transformation. 

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Today Gabi and Laura speak with Vanessa Gabriel about the Uber Eats for Cannabis, Drop Delivery. 

Vanessa is the CEO and co-founder of Drop Delivery, the cannabis industry’s only all-in-one delivery technology solution for delivery companies and retailers. A thirty-year-old, self-described serial entrepreneur, Vanessa previously co-founded Greenlight Technologies, a leading order-ahead and digital loyalty software in the cannabis industry, which was acquired in 2018. She’s been recognized by Forbes Next 1000, Marijuana Venture 40 under 40, and is a part of the Rolling Stone Culture Council.

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Today Laura and Kevin talk with Pulsar Security's Patrick Hynds and Duane Laflotte about how Denmark’s welfare state created a surveillance nightmare. They also get into data breaches, defensive computing, cybersecurity and movie classics such as Sneakers, Hackers, WarGames and Groundhog Day. 

Patrick Hynds is the CEO and Founder of DTS and Pulsar Security. He is a recognized technology leader with expertise in Microsoft technologies, software development, network architecture, and enterprise security. Patrick has spent two decades as a Microsoft Regional Director, frequently speaking at technical events throughout the world, and is a graduate of West Point and a decorated Gulf War veteran.

Duane Laflotte is Chief Technology Officer of Pulsar Security. He works to resolve complex technical issues for the team and its partners. Duane is an expert technologist in the areas of cryptography, exploit development, networking, programming, and enterprise data storage. 

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Today Laura and Kevin talk to Suman Kanuganti about uploading your consciousness to the cloud with Personal.ai.

Suman is a two-time venture-backed entrepreneur, AI enthusiast, and accessibility champion awarded Forbes 40 Under 40 and Smithsonian’s “Top Innovator to Watch” awards. He is the Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer at Personal.ai which is focused on empowering every individual to own their intelligence and be their own thought leader with an AI extension of their memory.

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In today's episode, Laura and Kevin cover the birth of the Internet, Secret PIPs, RIFs, Garter Magic Quadrants and More in a Freewheeling Conversation with Malcolm Hawker. We even get into the heyday of the Washington Wizards and the craziness of Florida.

Malcolm Hawker, the Head of Data Strategy of Profisee, is a thought leader in the field of Master Data Management (MDM) and Data Governance. He is a frequent public speaker on data and analytics best practices. As the Head of Data Strategy for Profisee, his mission is to raise the awareness of the value of MDM and Data Governance to senior leaders at companies across the globe. 

MDM and Data Governance remain a significant challenge to most companies, but through the application of practical and outcome-driven data management best practices, his goal is to empower companies with the confidence and knowledge needed to become truly data-driven.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak to Laura Bell Main, CEO of SafeStack about cybersecurity, threat modeling, and ChatGPT while also trying to determine who is the best Laura

Laura Bell Main is the co-founder and CEO of SafeStack, an online education platform offering flexible, high-quality, and people-focused secure development training for fast-moving companies, with a focus on building security skills, practices, and culture across the entire engineering team.

With over twenty years of experience in software development and information security, Laura Bell Main specializes in bringing security into organizations of every shape and size.

Laura is an experienced conference speaker, trainer, and regular panel member, and has spoken at a range of events such as BlackHat USA, Velocity, and OSCON on the subjects of privacy, covert communications, agile security, and security mindset. 

She is also the co-author of Agile Application Security and Security for Everyone.

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Today Laura and Kevin talk with Consilio’s VP of Global Marketing Omid Jahanbin.

Omid Jahanbin is Consilio’s Vice President of Global Marketing and Product Experience. At Consilio, Omid is responsible for developing and growing the company’s brand story, differentiated value proposition, solution architecture and global marketing strategy, helping the company grow from a 100-person litigation consulting practice into the global leader in eDiscovery and legal technology solutions with over 5,000+ employees worldwide. Additionally, Omid’s product design and marketing insight has helped shape the eDiscovery landscape, evolving Consilio’s Sightline eDiscovery platform from a concept into an award-winning solution.

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Today Kevin and Laura talk with Atlas Reality President and CTO Beau Button about virtual real estate. 

Beau Button has been actively involved with software development since he was 11 years old. He got his start learning about computers around age 9, digging into the hardware side of things first, and eventually picked up software development at age 11.

Having spent the majority of his career as a serial entrepreneur working in the government space Beau has now transitioned into the mobile gaming space through his company Atlas Reality, Inc.

Beau has become a technology & automation enthusiast, even in his personal life. He spends a majority of his time outside of work building through 3d printing, and is very passionate about hunger/food scarcity, education and veganism.

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Today Laura and Kevin speak with Nick Emmons to determine if all NFTs are a scam.

Nick Emmons is co-founder and CEO at Upshot, the premier platform for NFT Financialization.

Upshot aims to make NFT financial markets more accessible with accurate, real-time appraisals powered by machine learning and new types of DeFi x NFT primitives. 

Nick has years of experience as a full-stack developer and blockchain engineer. He has positioned Upshot to be at the forefront of NFTs, DeFi, and Web3.

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Today Laura and Kevin are live at Legal Week 2023!

Join Kevin and Laura as they take you on an exciting tour of Legal Week 2023 on this special bonus episode of That Tech Pod! From new and emerging trends to the latest developments in legal tech, they'll give you an inside look at everything that's happening on the conference floor.

Get an exclusive behind-the-scenes peek at the companies, the people, and the swag that make Legal Week such an exciting event. And don't miss their live interviews with some of the most innovative minds in the legal tech world including Shane Zelm of Quikdata, Jennifer Joyce of EY, and Sebastian Sutherland from IPRO!

With insightful analysis and a fun, engaging approach, Kevin and Laura will make you feel like you're right there with them, experiencing all the excitement and energy of Legal Week 2023. Don't miss out on this must-listen episode of That Tech Pod!

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Today Laura and Kevin are in NYC for LegalWeek 2023. They spoke with EY's Todd Marlin about winning a Leaders in Tech Law Award, the LegalWeek conference and the importance of being true to your brand. 

Todd is a Principal in the EY Forensic & Integrity Services practice and is the Global Forensic Technology and Innovation Leader. His main focus areas are forensic data analytics, cybersecurity, computer forensics, fraud detection, and electronic discovery.

About LegalWeek:

Legalweek is one week where thousands of legal professionals gather to network with their peers, dive deeper into their professional development, explore topics and strategies tailored specifically to their role, and gain the tools to get legal business done.

Developed with input from ALM’s legal editorial advisors and an advisory board of fifteen industry experts, this year’s program will feature new session formats designed to provide a more engaging experience.

Legalweek is the only place where you will gain the insights to tackle the changing legal landscape and learn actionable insights that will help legal leaders restructure, rebuild and reinvigorate today’s law firms and legal departments.

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with Ben Grimes, Todd Marlin, and Alan Gibson

On today’s episode Laura and Kevin speak with Ben, Todd, and Alan around all things LegalWeek 2023.

About today’s guests:

  • Ben Grimes is Vice President for US Enterprise Commercial, Northeast Region. Ben is responsible for leading a sales professional community to help Microsoft’s clients drive digital transformation & cloud adoption strategies through leveraging Microsoft's cloud portfolio.
  • Todd Marlin is a Principal in the EY Forensic & Integrity Services practice and is the Global Forensic Technology and Innovation Leader. His main focus areas are forensic data analytics, cybersecurity, computer forensics, fraud detection, and electronic discovery.
  • Alan Gibson is a business development executive in Forensic & Integrity Services. He helps organizations use data analytics and technology to manage legal, regulatory and reputational risks and make more effective compliance, legal and business decisions.
  • About LegalWeek:

Legalweek is one week where thousands of legal professionals gather to network with their peers, dive deeper into their professional development, explore topics and strategies tailored specifically to their role, and gain the tools to get legal business done.

Developed with input from ALM’s legal editorial advisors and an advisory board of fifteen industry experts, this year’s program will feature new session formats designed to provide a more engaging experience.

Legalweek is the only place where you will gain the insights to tackle the changing legal landscape and learn actionable insights that will help legal leaders restructure, rebuild and reinvigorate today’s law firms and legal departments.

Click here to learn more about Legal Week 2023

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Laura and Kevin are joined by fellow podcaster Shelby Busch.

Shelby is a podcast technical guru. She is Super passionate about all things podcasting, and have been listening to podcasts since before they were cool (since the dawn of TIME). Shelby has been recording and working in the podcast realm for over 3 years. She currently works behind the scenes as a Technical Account Manager for Podcasts at SiriusXM, making sure that the podcasts you hear, are appeasing to your ear(s)

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Laura and Kevin jump on an emergency pod to explain what is going on with Silicon Valley Bank. 

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin speak with Hue Rhodes. 

Hue Rhodes is an expert on data privacy and ownership. Hue has first-hand experienced how 24/7 surveillance and zero privacy can shape and mold people. After finding his way to Princeton, Stanford, and then NYU film school (he directed a feature film with Steve Buscemi and Sarah Silverman), he worked at Experian and LifeLock for more than a decade and saw first-hand how the data industry operates.

Today, Hue is the founder and CEO of FRIDAY, a free and easy-to-use app that extracts your Mobile Ad ID for you, and notifies the companies that sell your location history to stop. Then they report back to you with the responses. 

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Huxley Barbee. Huxley Barbee is the organizer of the BSides NYC Security Conference and a Security Evangelist at runZero (formerly Rumble Network Discovery), a company founded by Metasploit creator HD Moore that helps companies discover unmanaged devices for asset inventory.

Huxley previously worked for Cisco, Sparkpost, and most recently, Datadog – where he formulated the Datadog Cloud Security Platform. During his time there, he established a new security market presence & enabled the global sales force to grow sales by 482%.

Huxley spent over 20 years as a software engineer and security consultant. He attended his first DEF CON in 1999 and holds both CISSP and CISM certifications. On top of that, he’s also an organizer of BSidesNYC.

He has a passion for bringing value to those around him and understanding what drives individuals and groups.

In 2016, he founded a consulting practice at Cisco providing security automation and orchestration to Fortune 500 customers.

Four years later, he brought Datadog’s Cloud Security Platform to market. Now at runZero, he’s helping organizations build comprehensive asset inventory.

He resides in New York where he spends time trying to keep up with his children.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura, Kevin, and Gabi speak with singer-songwriter Katie Boeck and producer Dustin Ransom live in Nashville, Tennessee about making music with technology in the age of A.I.

Check out Katie's NEW music OUT NOW here: https://www.katieboeckmusic.com

Katie Boeck’s voice is earthy and cosmic. Her muses, modern and ancient. Her power, higher and worldly. Boeck doesn’t just revel in these contradictions—she weaves them together on her forthcoming album, Calico due April 28, 2023. Calico captures the arc of maturing relationships—from naïveté and illusion to self-love and sovereignty. It’s an album about modern love and the longing that still tugs beneath the promise of our hyper-connected culture. On the title track Boeck sings, “I’m in every direction / too many modes of connection.” And on the album's opener, Over Again, she ponders time and the gift of owning your history. “Would you do it over again/ lose ourselves along the path of good intentions”. These are songs about life taking unexpected courses and stories of love just out-
of-reach.

Boeck summons a pantheon of guides—wise women both mythic and real. Like Eve, Boeck likes to reimagine herself returning to Eden, whole. And Like Eurydice, Boeck followed one her musical guides, Joni Mitchell, out of the underworld. Recently divorced, newly single-parenting, Boeck was struggling to find her voice. So she looked to Joni’s oracular songs to help renew her own creative spark. She learned Joni’s watershed record Blue in its entirety and toured the show for a year. Living inside Joni’s cadences and signature melismas led Boeck back to her own sonic soil. She used songwriting’s ancient alchemy to find wisdom in her heartache and spiritual injuries. She also found kinship with co-producer Dustin Ransom (also recently divorced) who wound up co-writing and co-producing the album.

Boeck’s career has been wildly varied. After graduating UCLA's Theater program, she spent her early twenties playing every Westside LA dive bar and coffeehouse, living on Lookout Mountain and soaking in that Laurel Canyon sound. She landed a spot in an all-women Bollywood band that took her on a surreal six-month “Eat, Pray, Love-esque” tour of India, playing everything from farm weddings to the
Indian Navy’s annual gala. Afterwards, Boeck found herself back in LA with reverse culture shock, her '91 Chevy Caprice Classic and a heartbreak from a recent Spanish expat romance. She wove these experiences into the songs that appear on her debut EP, Speaking of You.

Boeck then moved to New York to star in Duncan Sheik’s musical, Spring Awakening, where she shared the lead role of Wendla with deaf actress Sandra Mae Frank. The play’s success occasioned appearances on Late Night with Seth Meyers, NBC Nightly News with Lester Holt and a 2016 Tony nomination for Best Revival of a Musical. Boeck’s rendition of “Ave Maria” was featured on HBO’s critically-acclaimed television series “The Newsroom” and her cover of Ace of Base’s “The Sign” was recently featured on Netflix’s “Love Island”. She has played Electric Forest Festival, Mile of Music, the Cutting Room, City Winery and Carnegie Hall. Boeck now lives in Nashville with her five-year-old son. “Boeck sings with a plaintive passion.” – NEW YORK TIMES

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BONUS EPISODE: Laura and Kevin Talk AFCEA West.

AFCEA WEST connects the industry professionals who design and build the platforms, equipment and weapons with the designers of communications and technical systems.

The premier naval conference and exposition on the West Coast, WEST is now in its 33rd year of bringing military and industry leaders together. Co-sponsored by AFCEA International and the U.S. Naval Institute, WEST is the only event in which the makers of platforms and the designers of technologies can network, discuss and demonstrate their solutions in a single locale.

One recurring highlight of WEST is the chance to hear from the Sea Service Chiefs - the Chief of Naval Operations, the Marine Corps Commandant and the Coast Guard Commandant. In addition to the main program, WEST offers three Engagement Theaters: Marine, General, and Information Warfare. These smaller, more intimate venues allow military, government and industry professionals to drill deeper into specific topics and issues. More information about WEST speakers and panel presentations is available online.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin speak with CCPA & CPRA Co-author Rich Arney and Boltive CEO Dan Frechtling.

Dan Frechtling is CEO of Boltive, providing publishers and ad exchanges the tools they need to monitor and audit their programmatic ads, and the added benefit to identify the source & block the bad ones—setting a new standard for accountability & protection that our industry desperately needs. Frechtling has led B2B SaaS businesses since 1999. Prior to Ad Lightning, he was President of G2 Web Services, acquired by Verisk, where he expanded G2’s cyber security solutions to detect brand damaging activity and transaction laundering. He was also GM/VP at Hibu, VP at Stamps.com and Sr. Associate for McKinsey. He has an MBA with Distinction from Harvard Business School and a BS with High Honors from Northwestern University. Follow Boltive on LinkedIn and Twitter.

Rick Arney is a board member of Californians for Consumer Privacy and a co-author of the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) and Proposition 24 - the California Privacy Rights Act (CPRA), the most comprehensive and groundbreaking consumer privacy laws in the United States. In addition to co-authoring both laws, Rick participated in all aspects of campaigning including signature gathering, media (both TV and Radio), finance and campaign strategy. He has an Economics BA with honors from Stanford and an MBA from Harvard and is a Fulbright Scholar.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura, Gabi, and Kevin traveled to Nashville Tennessee to talk with Joel Beasley of Modern CTO podcast! We discuss what it takes to make meaningful content in 2023; the unprecedented impact that ChatGPT is having on creative endeavors; and why it might be time for you to start creating your own content today.

For more about the Modern CTO podcast, check out their website: https://moderncto.io

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Andrew Kelley. Andrew is a global technology executive with public company and startup experience. He is currently VP Corporate Development & Ventures at Five9. Prior to this role Andrew was Chief Commercial at an Internet of Things startup, BoxLock. As CEO of Bell Creek Partners he consulted for various private equity firms and early stage companies. Andrew is passionate about technology, customer scaling, and growth. Previously he was with Vista Equity-backed Omnitracs as President of Haulme and VP Corporate Development. He worked at Dell focusing on early stage investing in software and infrastructure startups including Nutanix which had a $2.5B market cap at IPO. He also worked at UBS Investment Bank in Technology, Media, & Telecom after working at IBM headquarters. He began his professional career co-founding Virtual Ink at MIT. Andrew has an MBA from Harvard Business School, an MSME from MIT, and a BSME from North Carolina State University.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk with Erin Quick. Erin Quick is the Founder and Chief Executive Officer of PairTree. With more than 20 years of global brand marketing experience, and more importantly, as a two-time adoptive mother, Erin is a leader in the movement to modernize adoption in the U.S. With an expert first-hand understanding of the challenges of the domestic private adoption industry and a drive to increase access and opportunities for all involved in the adoption process, Erin brings a wealth of knowledge and business experience to helping families navigate their unique adoption journeys.

As Chief Executive Officer at PairTree, Erin leads on areas of the business including strategy, product development and marketing. Erin is responsible for the businesses day-to-day decision making and implementing the company’s short- and long-term plans.

Previously, Erin co-founded Stoke Strategy, a Seattle-based brand strategy firm, which she led for 12 years. While there, Erin led brand initiatives for Bluetooth, Weyerhaeuser, Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and the University of Washington, to name a few. Erin began her marketing career at Addison in San Francisco and New York, where she worked on global branding for Domino’s Pizza, Merrill Lynch and The Make-a-Wish Foundation.

Erin is a recipient of Puget Sound Business Journal’s 40-Under-40 award and most recently, PairTree, under Erin’s leadership, was selected to participate in the 2021 TechStars Seattle Accelerator – a highly selective and successful global startup accelerator program. Erin is currently a Visionary Voices Member and Speaker with All Raise, a nonprofit on a mission to accelerate the success of female founders and funders. She is a guest lecturer on Technology Entrepreneurship at Brown University and the University of Washington.

Erin lives on Bainbridge Island with her husband and two children.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin speak with David Carpenter. David is the CEO of Gamiotics, Inc., a live entertainment software company that enables real time communication between audience and content and is powering the next generation of immersive and experiential entertainment. Gamiotics mission is to deliver authentic experiences through audience agency. He is a twenty-year veteran of the entertainment industry and a Tony nominated producer.

He is currently a managing partner in the new interactive experience, The Twenty-Sided Tavern. Bringing a D&D style RPG game into live entertainment space using Gamiotics technology to power the audience engagement, this exciting new project will premiere in 2022.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with animator Ben Wild. Ben Wild is an illustrator/animator with a focus on using tech to push the boundaries of art. Ben has worked within the space for the last 8 years working with a collection of start-ups and global brands. He works at Wild Studios and has made marketing videos for major brands like Gucci and even for the late Queen of England.

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Laura, Gabi, and Kevin discuss their favorite episodes of 2022, and exciting new announcements coming ahead in 2023.

Episodes included in the discussion:

An Optimistic Data Privacy Future With Uber’s Nishant Bhajaria
Ranking the eDiscovery Hosting Platforms: The REAL Truth Behind the Marketing Hype With Phil Shellhaas
The Tech Behind UFOs and Inside The Hearings on Capitol Hill With Expert Dr. Avi Loeb
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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Nick Jordan. Nick is the Founder of Narrative, a platform that helps businesses in a variety of industries reach their goals using transformative data technology. In other words, he guides them through systemic data monetization, acquisition, and sharing whether they work in retail, finance, hospitality, healthcare, automotive, or agriculture. Additionally, he has spent most of his career in product management roles at global technology-driven companies like Adobe and Yahoo!

Learn more here: https://legendarypodcasts.com/nick-jordan/

Charity of the week: St. Jude Children's Research Hospital

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Damien Filiatrault. Damien is the founder and CEO of Scalable Path, a software staffing agency that matches leading companies and startups with vetted, remote software developers. Previously, he headed PHP development at SolutionSet, a multichannel marketing services company, where he spent five months managing a team of developers in Goa, India. Damien has held sales and marketing positions at notable San Francisco technology companies, including Evite and CNET Networks. Through his work at Scalable Path, Damien has championed employment equity for software developers across Latin America. He also cares deeply for the environment and has pledged 10% of all Scalable Path profits to climate change research. Damien holds a BA in Geography and BSc in Computer Science from UC Berkeley and San Jose State University, and is passionate about software development and agile processes.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Carly Lund. Carly is the Chief Digital & Data Officer at YSC Consulting. While at YSC Consulting, Carly has worked as part of the UK consulting team, partnering with a number of clients across a wide range of industries to support them in identifying and developing the right talent to support their strategic objectives. Carly is a specialist in psychometric tools and is passionate about helping organizations to spot, nurture and retain talent through rigorous and fit-for-purpose talent solutions. Beyond this, she is a positive, practical and challenging coach who partners with her clients to bring about sustainable and meaningful change to support them in fulfilling their potential. Carly is a chartered occupational psychologist who holds an MSc in Occupational Psychology from London Metropolitan University and a BSc (Hons) in Psychology from the University of Kent at Canterbury. Prior to joining YSC in 2016, she spent ten years with another global consultancy where she held a number of roles in their research and development teams as well as professional services.

This week's charity:
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Since 1982, the International Marine Mammal Project (IMMP) has been a global leader in protecting whales and dolphins and their ocean habitats.

IMMP pioneered the Dolphin Safe tuna fishing standard, stopping the intentional chasing and netting of dolphins by many tuna companies and preventing tens of thousands of dolphin deaths annually. We continue to monitor more than 800 tuna companies to ensure they are following Dolphin Safe fishing practices that protect dolphins and other marine life.

IMMP directed the historic rescue and release of the orca whale Keiko, made famous in the movie Free Willy, and is fighting to end the tragic slaughter of dolphins in Taiji, Japan, as featured in the Academy Award–winning movie The Cove.

In addition, IMMP continues its ongoing campaigns to stop all trade in live dolphins and whales; to end the capture and captivity of whales and dolphins for circus performances; and to fight pollution and plastics in the ocean, particularly the entanglement of marine life in fishing gear.

We have achieved victories for marine mammals around the world and we continue to work to make the oceans safe for whales, dolphins, and marine life.

We are a proud project of the nonprofit tax-deductible Earth Island Institute, and are headquartered in Berkeley, California USA.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura, Gabi, and Kevin talk to Phil Shellhaas, Executive Vice President of eDiscovery Services. Phil brings two decades of litigation support experience to his leadership role at Trustpoint.One. Most recently he served as Senior Director of Legal Services for Trustpoint’s Electronic Discovery Services organization, where he strategically advised some of the world’s largest corporations about data reduction optimization. During his career, Phil has held several organizational roles, with specialized proficiency in reprographics, imaging/scanning, electronic discovery, ASP services, computer forensics, and sales management. Phil has managed, consulted and engineered solutions for a variety of large litigation and investigative matters, including pharmaceutical, industrial, technology, construction and FCPA.

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It's December giving month at That Tech Pod:
This week's charity:
Support the expansion of Tsharka Elementary School to serve all the children in this Tibetan village located in the remote Himalayan region of Dolpo, Nepal. Currently, the school is filled to capacity with 60 students. There are 120 children in Tsharka Village. New classrooms are being built and more teachers must be hired. The International Community Development Foundation seeks money to complete four new classrooms, repair the existing school building, and pay salaries for three new teachers.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin talk to Ian McConnell. Ian is a recovering gifted child with a fear of disappointing people. A singer-songwriter by day,  goofy social media personality of moderate notoriety by (also) day, and sleepy-head by night, Ian has been referred to as “Kroger-brand Ed Sheeran,” “sexy Kermit The Frog,” and “a stupid piece of shit” by a vocal minority of his 600k+ Tiktok and 230k+ Instagram followers. Though Ian spent the last few years attempting to be a country musician – a hilarious undertaking (in hindsight) for a suburban-DC math/cello major with no rural life experience – he has now abandoned that endeavor (for reasons obvious to anyone who has read this sentence) in favor of a nebulous Taylor-Swift-meets-Bo-Burnham vibe (okay now I want the Taylor Swift-Bo Burnham collab album. I’ve always thought All Too Well could use more masturbation jokes) (wow this sentence sure does have a lot of parentheses!). His inability to delegate has led to Ian writing, producing, mixing, and mastering all his own music, which has been streamed over 23 million times across the platforms of our gargantuan corporate overlords. But numbers don’t matter! Listen to the music!

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin speak with Kylie Uvodich. As a Head of Americas, Go-to-Market at SafetyCulture, Kylie oversees a committed team who support hundreds of businesses across the US to improve workplace operations, including JetBlue, Scotts Miracle-Gro, Air Canada, and Dollar General. With the power of innovative tech, her team helps to give workers a voice, leaders visibility, and unite teams to improve.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Haseeb Awan. Haseeb is the CEO of Efani, America's most secure and private cell phone service, which protects people against SIM Swaps, eavesdropping, and location tracking.

Efani works like any other carrier, except Efani adds exceptional security to phone plans via an impressive security tech stack.

Haseeb is also a co-founder of one of the first and largest bitcoin ATMs - Bitaccess - which has 8000+ locations in 15 countries. He is one of the earliest entrepreneurs in the blockchain space and has invested in 30+ companies. 

As one of the top 100 influential people in FinTech globally, Haseeb has been part of documentaries and even congressional hearings to speak on behalf of Bitcoin in its early days.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Thomas Helfrich about how AI is spearheading the New Normal Of Digital Marketing. Thomas “AI Nerd” Helfrich is a technology guru, business innovator, and CEO of Instantly Relevant, Inc. (instantlyrelevant.com). Using a combinCation of emerging AI technology and expert human insight, his company helps founders, entrepreneurs, and startups earn more traffic, tap into new revenue streams, and capture the attention of “relevant” audiences. Upending the old ways and opening future horizons to highly personalized, scalable, and effective online content. If you haven’t been living under a rock, you’ve probably noticed Google's search algorithms are quickly leaving behind text for images, voice, and videos. This explains why Content - like infographics, memes, and reels - is now a must for any marketing campaign - generating three times as many leads as traditional marketing.  As a product of the Dot-Com Boom, Tech Entrepreneur and CEO, Thomas Helfrich, got a front row seat to watch as the rise of technology and human creativity combined forces to become the marketing juggernaut they are today. Sound Scary? Maybe a little intimidating? Thomas knows all-too-well the fears that accompany the thought of an AI Take Over. 

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk with Ziad Lammam, Head of Product for HP Anyware. Ziad leads product management, strategy and planning for HP Anyware (previously Teradici CAS). Has over 20 years experience in the end-user computing industry spanning desktop virtualization, remote workstations and cloud PCs. Passionate about creating unique and delightful customers experiences. Holds Masters in Business Administration at Simon Fraser University and Bachelor of Applied Science in Computer Engineering at the University of British Columbia. Outside of the hybrid office, find me outdoors (skiing, running, cycling, volleyball).

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura, Kevin, and Gabi speak with friend of the show, Cybersecurity expert, Naomi Buckwalter.  Naomi details how she is closing the demand gap in cyber with her new non profit, Cybersecurity Gate-breakers. 

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin talk with Andrea Giannangelo. Andrea founded Iubenda back in 2011, when privacy wasn’t really a thing, based on the intuition that the status quo was going to change. Many years later, Iubenda has 90,000 paying clients and is used by hundreds of thousands of websites and apps as a key tool to stay compliant. In addition, Andrea is one of the main writers of Transparency and Consent Framework (or TCF), US Privacy Framework and Global Privacy Platform, all initiatives by iab that constitute the backbone used by the online advertising industry to share privacy-related signals.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Amit Modi. Amit is the CTO and CISO at Movius MultiLine, a trustworthy company heading mobile, voice, text, and WhatsApp communications within businesses and their customers worldwide. Amit is an entrepreneur, leader, a visionary, and technology executive who has successfully patented and commercialized innovation in security, mobility, conversational AI, large scale cloud infrastructure, and B2B & B2C SaaS platforms in highly regulated industries.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Kevin talk to Katie Boeck. Katie is a singer, songwriter and actor  originally from California where she earned a BA in Theater at UCLA.  She played the Voice of Wendla in the critically acclaimed broadway revival of Spring Awakening garnering a Tony -nomination and a feature on The Nightly News with Lester Holt.  Her rendition of Ave Maria was featured on HBO's The Newsroom and her cover of The Sign was recently featured on the hit reality show Love Island. She just completed work on her upcoming full-length album "Calico" and is workshopping a new collaborative theatrical piece called "Motherhood". She lives in Nashville, TN with her 5 year old son. 

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Today on this bonus episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak to EY's Joe Pochron and Lou Bladel. Joe Pochron is the west region's digital forensic and insider threat lead for EY’s Forensic & Integrity Service Practice, based in San Francisco, CA. Joe’s expertise is in digital forensics, insider threats, and helping EY clients on complex cyber investigations and cyber incidents response needs.

Joe has over 20 years of combined experience in digital forensics, cybercrime investigations, eDiscovery, and cyber incident response. During that time, he has investigated or managed thousands of cases involving the collection and analysis of computer, mobile device, network, and cloud-based data. Joe has testified numerous times in local, state, and federal legal matters as a digital forensic expert. Additionally, he frequently provides expert affidavits, or expert forensic reports for clients in support of digital forensic analysis or cyber investigative needs. Joe routinely consults with clients regarding digital forensics, insider threats, data privacy, incident response and electronic discovery matters. He has managed the preservation, analysis, and review of electronically stored information in a wide range of matters including investigations, independent litigation, regulatory compliance and internal inquiries. Joe is a frequent speaker at technical or legal conferences. Additionally, he has been an educator for many industry professionals, serving as an adjunct professor at the university level for many years, teaching courses on digital forensics and cybercrime.

Lou is a managing director in the Forensic & Integrity Services practice. He is the Practice Leader for Intellectual Property Theft Services, which assists clients in responding to, investigating and remediating insider threat, intellectual property, trade secret theft and third party risk management. Lou and his team develop and implement comprehensive data integrity and security services. Lou consults with US federal law enforcement agency directors, government regulators and key executives of Fortune 100 companies, Fortune 500 C-suite officials and boards of directors from across industry on matters of economic espionage and insider threats. Lou has over 26 years of federal law enforcement experience serving in the U.S. Marshals Service, Naval Criminal Investigative Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation (FBI), retiring from the FBI in 2016. The majority of Lou’s law enforcement career involved leading and investigating counterintelligence matters. Lou has held numerous leadership positions within the FBI, including Special Agent in Charge of the New York office of the FBI’s Counterintelligence Division where he led the recent espionage/insider threat arrest and successful plea negotiation of an FBI employee. As Chief of the FBI’s Counterespionage Section, he led the espionage investigations of David Petraeus and Edward Snowden. He also led the production of The Company Man, an award-winning training film that educated private sector companies on the dangers of economic espionage. The film won an Emmy (2016), the CINE Golden Eagle Award (2014) and five gold and bronze Peer Awards. In 2013, he successfully testified before the U.S. Sentencing Commission to enhance the criminal penalties for theft of proprietary information. He managed the DuPont economic espionage investigation, which resulted in the FBI’s first-ever jury trial conviction for economic espionage. The case won the 2014 FBI Director’s Award for Counterintelligence Excellence. He was featured on NBC Nightly News promoting awareness of the FBI’s economic espionage program. Lou also won the National Counterintelligence Executive Award for Community Excellence in Leadership for his role in the FBI operation that led Lou frequently speaks at high-profile public and private sector forums.

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Today, Laura and Gabi talk to Co-founder and CTO at Resurface Labs, Rob Dickinson. Rob lives and breathes APIs and how we can learn from user actions. Years at Intel, Dell, and Quest Software frame his passion for customer input, and to architect and build a scalable solution to solve for security, faster troubleshooting, and observability using real API data from real users. 

Rob is a versatile speaker and able to make complex technical topics accessible and compelling to audiences across the board and at all levels. He has unparalleled insights as a Founder and CTO of a growing API observability firm, and is also an expert on databases, Open Source software, development tools, DevOps, DevSecOps and anything involving bits and bytes.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Rachel Stern is a Senior Vice President for InState Partners, the venture capital arm of private equity firm, Advantage Capital. As the founder of the business line, over the last decade she has invested in and advised InState’s extensive portfolio companies on how to foster effective partnerships between innovative technology solutions and state and local governments across the country.

Rachel is also a graduate of the CORO™ Fellows Program, an intensive, full-time, graduate-level fellowship in public affairs. Through CORO, she worked in multiple sectors of public affairs, including non-profits, public companies and private equity-backed businesses, state government and electoral campaigns.

She received her MBA from University of California, Berkeley, Haas School of Business and her bachelor’s degree from Amherst College.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk with Raj Bains. Raj is the founder & CEO of Prophecy. Previously, Raj led project management of Apache Hive at Hortonworks through their IPO. He also headed product management and marketing for a NewSQL database startup. Raj continues to actively develop compiler and database technologies in his quest to create data tools “that don’t suck.” His engineering roles include developing a NewSQL database, building CUDA at NVIDIA as a founding engineer, and as a compiler engineer working on Microsoft Visual Studio.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with David Burnett.

David Burnett has been working at security, identity, and authentication companies for almost 20 years. Early in his career, he spent seven years helping to make strong encryption successful and easy to use while at PGP Corporation and Symantec. Later, he focused on making biometric authentication easier and more popular than passwords. His work at Nok Nok Labs delivered early successes for the FIDO Alliance, an industry association that promotes a passwordless future. Samsung and Sony used Nok Nok Labs software to power the first FIDO-enabled fingerprint login services on smartphones. PayPal and NTT DOCOMO used Nok Nok Labs software to let their customers log in using FIDO-enabled phones. From these early beginnings, the FIDO Alliance has become a global success story. FIDO technology is used by companies around the world to power passwordless login. And the world's most influential technology companies, such as Google, Apple, Microsoft, Amazon and Meta, all use and promote FIDO. After his successes with FIDO and smartphones, David spent several years bringing biometric technology to other consumer devices and types of identity systems. As part of this effort, he lived in Sweden for two years and continued his work with partners around the world. Today, he's the Head of Global Business Development at ZeroBiometrics. He's passionate about an innovative new product that verifies your face without knowing what you look like. This product, ZeroFace is a modern approach to biometric authentication that is inherently privacy preserving. Among its many innovative features is the ability to encrypt your data using your face as the key.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Ruslan Khamidullin. 

Ruslan is the Chief Technology Officer of Filmustage, a technology company that is streamlining the film production process using neural network technology.

With 10 years of development experience, Ruslan has been able to develop the Filmustage technology to automate the script breakdown process, a painstaking task that is necessary in the production industry. 

Also a lifelong musician, Ruslan is well-versed in sound design. He would be happy to discuss Filmustage in context of the changes currently happening in the global film industry!

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Today On That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Will Plummer. Will is 25-year veteran of the US Army, where he earned a Bronze Star with Valor as a Master Explosive Ordnance Disposal (EOD) Technician, and commanded multiple Special Operations units with multiple combat deployments. He has an MA from the Naval War College and a BA from the University of California at Chico. Currently, Will is the Chief Security Officer for next-generation mail screening technology provider RaySecur. He leads the company’s physical security efforts, overseeing a team of EOD professionals, and managing client’s threat mitigation efforts.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Electronic Arts' Tanmay Gaonkar. Tanmay believes that Data Privacy should not be on-demand, it should rather be built into the infrastructure. He is a data privacy professional, driven to operationalize Privacy and overcome related challenges using analytics and innovation. More often than usual, he finds himself navigating through highly complex data flows in an attempt to build and maintain accurate records of processing of personal information within an organization. His primary focus lies in developing successful relationships with several stakeholders and system owners to help achieve this. He is presently assisting the Privacy Compliance team at Electronic Arts (EA) in planning and implementing Data Mapping. Tanmay is an IAPP Certified Information Privacy Manager (CIPM).

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Ted Harrington. Ted Harrington is the author of HACKABLE: How to Do Application Security Right and the Executive Partner at Independent Security Evaluators (ISE), the company of ethical hackers famous for hacking cars, medical devices, and password managers. He’s helped hundreds of companies fix tens of thousands of security vulnerabilities, including Google, Amazon, Microsoft, Netflix, and more. Ted has helped hundreds of companies fix tens of thousands of security vulnerabilities, including Disney, Amazon, Google, Netflix, Adobe, Warner Brothers, Qualcomm, and more. For his stewardship of security research that Wired Magazine says “wins the prize, hands down,” Ted has been named both Executive of the Year by the American Business Awards and an SD Metro 40 Under 40 entrepreneur. He leads a team that started and organizes IoT Village, an event whose hacking contest is a three-time DEFCON Black Badge winner, representing the discovery of more than 300 zero-day vulnerabilities (and counting). Ted has been featured in more than 100 media outlets, including The Wall Street Journal, Financial Times, and Forbes. His team founded and organizes IoT Village, an event whose hacking contest has produced three DEF CON Black Badges.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk with Brandon Pugh. Brandon Pugh is a resident senior fellow and policy counsel for the Cybersecurity and Emerging Threats team. Outside of R Street, he serves as an international law officer in the U.S. Army Reserve where he worked on the Army Cyber Institute’s critical infrastructure resiliency project. Brandon is also a board member for the Ithaca College Cybersecurity Program and for a governor’s advisory council.

Brandon breaks down the American Data Privacy and Protection Act with Laura and Gabi.

  • Progress on the legislation: https://www.rstreet.org/2022/07/21/marking-up-momentum-whats-next-for-the-adppa/

  • Security aspects of the bill: https://iapp.org/news/a/what-does-the-newest-u-s-privacy-bill-mean-for-cybersecurity/

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Today on a special bonus episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Charles Fritzen. Charles did a form of gymnastics  called Teamgym where he with his team won Swedish Nationals 7 years, and with the Swedish national team came second in the European Championships twice. Charles then moved to the US in 2016 and quit his job as a data analyst to work as a personal trainer after he got his certification. In 2019, Charles moved to the UK to live with his boyfriend and then started doing online training. In 2020, Charles became a national team coach in Teamgym for Great Britain for the 2020 European Championships. Charles currenlty works as an online trainer and also data analyst.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Kevin Adler.

Kevin Adler is a Cybersecurity & Data Privacy attorney who helps businesses, local governments, and individuals understand and navigate the legal issues posed by new technologies and cyber threats.

Using his experience with the Cybersecurity and Infrastructure Security Agency (CISA) and other federal agencies, Kevinprepares clients for the eventuality of a cybersecurity incident. Even in the absence of a direct threat, understanding the legal issues behind new technologies can be difficult for even the most sophisticated organization. Throughout his career, Kevinhas worked with new technologies and found inventive ways to serve his clients within existing regulatory frameworks.

Before joining Woods Rogers in 2021, Kevin won a Presidential Management Fellowship (PMF), where he took part in the U.S. government program aimed at getting individuals with unique skills into leadership positions across the federal government. As a Fellow, Kevin worked in the Department of Homeland Security Countering Weapons of Mass Destruction (CWMD) and CISA. At CWMD, he advised the Department of Homeland Security’s Securing the Cities, BioWatch, and Chemical Defense programs on intergovernmental agreements. At CISA, Kevin provided counsel for the CISA COVID Crisis Action Team and provided legal support on regulatory, intelligence, chemical security, cybersecurity, infrastructure security, legislative, unmanned aerial vehicle, and supply chain security issues. Kevin holds a Secret clearance and has previously worked on Top Secret and Sensitive Compartmentalized Information (TS//SCI) programs and projects across the federal enterprise.

Kevin graduated cum laude from the University of Nebraska College of Law with Concentrated Areas of Study in Space, Cyber, and Telecommunications Law and International and National Security Law. After graduation, Kevin supported NASA Kennedy Space Center’s Launch Services Program (LSP), where he assisted in providing legal advice to program officials.

Kevin grew up in Omaha, Nebraska, and graduated from the University of Nebraska-Lincoln cum laude with majors in Political Science and Global Studies. He also was an Intelligence Community Scholar Distinguished Graduate. During law school, Kevin was a finalist in the North American Round of the Manfred Lachs Space Moot Court Competition and interned with the United States Navy Judge Advocate General, United States Strategic Command (USSTRATCOM), and externed at the Department of Defense Office of General Counsel International Affairs at the Pentagon.

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Today on That Tech Pod Laura and Gabi chat with Ryan Buick. Ryan is the Co-Founder of Canvas, a Sequoia-backed startup that is reimagining the traditional office suite for a data-driven world.  Before Canvas, Ryan was one of the first Product Managers at Flexport. At Flexport, Ryan met his co-founders and saw how difficult it was for business teams to get the data they needed without knowing SQL or having to rely on technical teams for help. Frustrated with the current state of data tools, Ryan and his team started Canvas and aim to change the way millions of businesses use data to make decisions.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Anne Bradley. Anne is a lawyer, technologist, and business leader championing the responsible and ethical use of data in platforms and intelligent systems.

Specializing in cross-disciplinary collaboration across legal, data, and technical teams, Anne’s recent work explores scalable technical controls to apply policy restrictions to machine learning models, and best practices for transparency, fairness and empowerment in user experience design.

As an adjunct Professor at Northwestern University Pritzker School of Law, Anne co-teaches a course on Data Science and its Implications that outlines the power and social consequences of data science, data visualization, and AI.

Anne is a graduate of University of California, Hastings College of Law and a member of the California Bar. She received an undergraduate degree in Computer Science and Art from Bowdoin College.

In the first chapter of her career, Anne was a technical product manager at a software company serving the newspaper industry, and then the founding CTO of an e-commerce and affiliate marketing business.

Her second chapter as a lawyer began as an associate in the Los Angeles offices of Christie, Parker & Hale, and then Foley & Lardner, before moving in house to lead Hulu’s IP, Technology, and Privacy work.

From 2013 to 2022, Anne led Nike’s Global Privacy, Digital, and Technology Legal team in her role as Chief Privacy Officer and Digital Transformation Counsel — focusing on issues of Privacy, Cybersecurity, and Data Localization, Wearable Tech, Ethical AI, and Global Content Moderation.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Horacio Zambrano.  Horacio is the CMO and Cyber Strategist for Secret Double Octopus. He has been a leading evangelist in the industry for passwordless authentication and was also CMO/CSO of TruU. He has contributed his deep expertise in PMM and B2B marketing at several early-stage cyber startups including Virsec, Valtix, Mocana and OPSWAT; and ran the VPN product lines at Juniper and Cisco in PM director roles. Lastly, he was also a top-ranked Wall Street research analyst covering Software sectors at Jefferies and Wedbush Morgan. He holds a BS in Computer Engineering and MBA from Stanford.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Douwe Maan. Douwe is the Founder and CEO of Meltano, an open source platform for the entire DataOps life cycle. Born and raised in the Netherlands, Douwe has been around computers his whole life and began programming when he was nine. He joined GitLab as employee number 10 while in college and later became Engineering Manager. In 2021, Douwe led the internal Meltano project in spinning out of GitLab.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with AI experts, PAI's Rebecca Finlay and Ernst & Young's Todd Marlin.

Rebecca Finlay is the CEO at Partnership on AI overseeing the organization’s mission and strategy. In this role, Rebecca ensures that the PAI Team and our global community of Partners work together so that developments in AI advance positive outcomes for people and society.

Most recently, Rebecca was Vice President, Engagement and Public Policy at CIFAR. In this role, Rebecca founded the Institute’s global knowledge mobilization practice, bringing together experts in industry, civil society, and government to accelerate the societal impact of CIFAR’s research programs. In 2017, she was responsible for the launch of CIFAR’s AI & Society program to support international working groups on the questions AI poses for all aspects of policy and society. In 2019, she launched CIFAR Solution Networks to support multi-year, international teams in the development of responsible approaches to real-world applications of AI. She led CIFAR’s partnerships with governments and public sector organizations, diversifying the organization’s funding sources internationally.

Prior to joining CIFAR, Rebecca held leadership roles in research and civil society organizations including as Group Director, Public Affairs and Cancer Control for the Canadian Cancer Society and National Cancer Institute of Canada. She began her career in the private sector building strategic partnerships, including as First Vice President, Financial Institution and Partnership Marketing for Bank One International. In 2019, Rebecca was honored as a Fellow of the American Association for the Advancement of Science (AAAS). In 2022, she was appointed to the Strategic Advisory Council of the Information and Privacy Commissioner of Ontario. She holds degrees from the University of Cambridge and McGill University. She is an active volunteer and lives with her family in Toronto, Canada.

Todd Marlin is a principal in Ernst & Young LLP’s Forensic & Integrity Services practice and is the Global Forensic Technology and Innovation Leader. Mr. Marlin is a trusted advisor to the C-suite, board of directors and General Counsel on complex issues surrounding data, security and legal and compliance risks. His main focus areas are forensic data analytics,
cybersecurity, computer forensics, fraud detection, and electronic discovery. Adept in big data analytics and data science, his team helps clients develop custom models to identify, expose and demonstrate relationships, trends and patterns within complex and disparate data. Mr. Marlin applies his extensive experience in data analytics and computer forensics to help businesses monitor, investigate, mitigate and recover from cyber breaches, as well as
fraudulent and criminal activities by rogue employees. Mr. Marlin has led numerous global projects for Fortune 500 companies and worked with both inside and outside counsel to navigate data and security challenges in critical situations and to manage legal, regulatory and financial risks. His unique background in accounting and technology enables him to
effectively work with multi-disciplinary stakeholders in complex legal, security and compliance issues. He has appeared on behalf of clients in front of the NYSE and SEC. Mr. Marlin has also served as a Neutral Expert and an Expert and has been appointed in Federal Court as a Special Master relating to electronic discovery disputes.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Cyber Siblings Anu and Sumeet Kukar.

Anu is the 2022 Global Power 100 Women in Cyber and 2021 winner Australia’s IT Security Champion. She is passionate about paving a way to support professionals from diverse skills background to contribute in cyber. To achieve this, she is driving a global campaign Switch2CyberTM. Anu is known as the Cyber UntanglerTM who advises CxO and Boards with her 20+ years of experience in consulting and industry. She brings her cyber, data, emerging tech, risk, governance & regulatory expertise. She has delivered global keynotes, insights on panels, podcast guest and author of publications totalling 80+ across 9 countries. She shares practical insights through her unique storytelling whilst taking the audience on a virtual tour around the world.

Sumeet is a global speaker, panelist and podcast guest, covering topics on cyber security, education, hacking, risk and resiliency and was formerly awarded Australia’s Emerging Leader of the Year. He is the CEO and Founder of Arascina®, which enables non-techies to be work-ready in cyber and is also the Board Committee and Sector Lead for Education & Research in international trade. He is a Chartered Accountant and a Certified Ethical Hacker, has built cyber and risk functions in financial services as an interim Chief Risk Officer and taught four disciplines of Science at the University. Learning often takes a long time and needs to be maintained just like your health. The speed of change in today’s tech world means we’ve got to learn faster. Sumeet’s purpose is to enable you to learn cyber. Lightning-fast. As a Learning NibblerTM, he finds bite-sized learning in everyday things and uses them to develop capabilities.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Josh Miller. Josh Miller works as an investor at Blu Ventures, a Washington, DC based venture capital firm that invests mostly in early-stage (seed to Series A) SaaS enterprise companies, with a focus on cyber security. He's led investments in a variety of cyber and non-cyber companies including IoT cyber security, cyber threat intelligence, cyber fraud mitigation, automated penetration testing technology, drone-based physical security, and speech recognition AI.

Today's episode is sponsored by EY:

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Previously recognized “Entrepreneur of the Year” stories highlighted how two business innovators used technology to disrupt the insurance industry, or another story, where a visionary leader used technology to break down barriers to financial inclusion. At EY, we are helping entrepreneurs transform businesses through the power of people, technology and innovation. The Forensic Technology team at are helping their clients create their own innovative story. Having built a scalable management and monitoring analytics platform to help their clients’ gain better access to data, enhance their existing technology capabilities and keep their data secure.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Beni Gradwohl, Co-Founder and Chief Executive Officer, Cognovi Labs.

Beni Gradwohl is Co-Founder and CEO of Cognovi Labs, Inc., an artificial intelligence (AI) company that focuses on measuring the emotional drivers behind human decision-making. Cognovi’s award-winning psychology-driven AI helps clients in the commercial, health and public sectors reveal how audiences are feeling in the moment, predict their action and intent, and then communicate with the emotions to maximize impact.

Beni has been on a journey to understand how people act and find a systematic way to measure our decision-making for more than 20 years. He is recognized as an executive who combines a deep understanding of new advances in machine learning, alternative data and commercial opportunities to create new businesses and grow existing revenue sources. Throughout his career, from investment management and institutional securities to consumer banking and fintech innovation, he has delivered outsized returns for his clients and institutions.

Beni previously held senior leadership positions at Citi, Morgan Stanley and various investment management firms. An astrophysicist by training, he spent the first decade of his professional career in academia and research, studying astrophysics, cosmology, particle physics, and magnetic resonance. He has held research and teaching assignments at multiple leading academic institutions, including University of California, Columbia Business School, Fermi National Accelerator Laboratory, University of Chicago, Weizmann Institute of Science and The Hebrew University of Jerusalem.

Featured in Inc., Forbes and the Financial Times, Beni is frequently invited to speak on topics at the intersection of AI and behavioral psychology, the role of emotions in human decision-making, and how to engage emotionally to drive a better outcome. Beni received his Ph.D. in Physics from The Hebrew University.

Today's episode is sponsored by EY:

By using AI machine learning, EY teams are helping businesses add value by delivering insights as decisions are made in real time. Across a wide range of industries, geographies and business issues, automation remains a key business driver for today and tomorrow. EY is helping to tackle many business challenges and leading their clients to better outcomes with technology solutions that embed their domain known-how.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Dominic Rayner. Dominic was featured in the Netflix’s ‘Worst  Roommate Ever: Marathon Man’, an episode that profiles the life and crimes of Youssef Khater. As a survivor, Dominic discusses the tech that was used in the case and how it differs from today. 

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Alenna Merrihew.  Alenna is a leadership and mental fitness coach, empowering ambitious, accomplished women to reclaim their lives by rediscovering what inspires them, shedding self-sabotaging beliefs, and acting with confident, laser-focused clarity.  She brings to her coaching work the unique perspective of over 20 years experience in corporate strategy and business operations, leading teams in both Fortune 500 and startups and mentoring and developing early to mid-stage career professionals. Before becoming a leadership coach, Alenna served as VP of Operations at New Relic and held multiple leadership roles in strategy and operations at Nike for over a decade. With a Harvard degree in East Asian Studies and MBA from UCLA Anderson School of Management, her professional journey also includes stints as a Japan analyst for the CIA and management consultant with Kearney, serving clients such as Levis, Bristol-Meyers Squibb, and Sprint.  Outside of work, Alenna is an adventure enthusiast and amateur “maker”, and can be found just as easily roaming the world on a motorcycle, as sipping coffee in a cozy chair with her latest knitting project.  Her dream for her coaching clients – “rewrite the stories you are telling yourself about what is possible and fearlessly go after what you want.”

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Today, Laura and Gabi speak with Dr. Avi Loeb, theoretical physicist who works on astrophysics and cosmology and the Frank B. Baird Jr. Professor of Science at Harvard University. Dr. Loeb is author of Extraterrestrial: The First Sign of Intelligent Life Beyond Earth which can be purchased here and recently wrote about the congressional hearings regarding UAPs which you can read here.

Laura and Gabi discuss all things UFOs, how the government is finally recognizing these unexplained sightings, and his research with the Galileo Project, an organization whose goal is to bring the search for extraterrestrial technological signatures of Extraterrestrial Technological Civilizations (ETCs) from accidental or anecdotal observations and legends to the mainstream of transparent, validated and systematic scientific research. This project is complementary to traditional SETI, in that it searches for physical objects, and not electromagnetic signals, associated with extraterrestrial technological equipment.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with George Tziahanas. George is a Managing Director at  Breakwater Solutions, where he works within their information governance practice. An attorney by background and education, his expertise includes data governance, risk and compliance, and legal technology. Prior to Breakwater, Mr. Tziahanas held executive positions at Arbor Ridge Partners, Morae Legal, HP Software, Iron Mountain, and Intel. He earned his JD from DePaul University College of Law and an MS in Biological Sciences and Molecular Systematics, also from DePaul University. He is a member of the Illinois State Bar Association.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Melissa Haughey. Melissa is CEO of Proxi, a data-mapping company that makes mapping and crowdsourcing geographic data accessible to everyone.  Proxi's maps power custom, location-based experiences. Melinda Haughey is a former U.S. intelligence professional and UX researcher who has done stints at both Facebook and Dell. She uses her expertise in geospatial visualization, online communities, and collaboration to inform the direction of Proxi, mentor other founders, and drive research in human-centered design forward. Melinda thrives on being an active community member, a digital creator, participating in local digital advisory boards, and organizing local gatherings for women in her network. She is known as a creative, competent, and compassionate leader — and has used these  skills to inform the culture at Proxi and connect with community members using the company’s mapping tool. Melinda received an engineering degree at Texas A&M and is a PhD candidate in the college of engineering at University of Washington. 

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Ben Brook. Ben is the co-founder and CEO of Transcend, the privacy platform that makes it easy to encode privacy across your tech stack. Transcend’s technology moves companies into the future of data privacy, with freed up resources, enhanced regulatory stances for the laws of today and tomorrow, and stronger relationships with their customers through respectful and compliant data transparency, consent, and control.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Colin Gounden. Colin is the CEO of VIA, a global provider of blockchain for data privacy, integration, and analysis. By bringing AI to data 100 times faster than alternatives and with the highest level of cybersecurity, VIA’s platform is the driving force to make communities of all kinds cleaner, safer, and more equitable.

Today's EY sponsor spotlight:

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EY Virtual is a single-point digital solution, available via the cloud or on premise, that can help organizations manage risks through a suite of AI-driven analytics and workflow applications. This modular management and monitoring platform not only allows businesses to accelerate the digital transformation but scales and adapts in response to events or as business needs grow. And it can maintain data in a single, secure environment, which lessens the need for multiple vendors all while complimenting technology that may already exist within your organization.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Jeffrey Solomon. Jeffrey is a professional services leader focused on customer success, artificial intelligence, innovation and law department consulting and digital transformation. At Wolters Kluwer ELM Solutions, he is responsible for leading a team that drives innovation and strategy, as well as go-to market for new products and services.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Pierce Larick. Pierce is the CEO and founder of New Revolution Media, a creative media agency in San Francisco, California. He side hustled as a videographer and photographer for over a decade before officially founding NRM in 2016. As an avid traveler, he wanted to start a company where he could take off whenever, as the official 2 weeks a year vacation was not working for him (nor should it work for anyone) The lead inspiration for NRM media was to work in a collaborative and open creative environment, and to have coworkers that shared his passion. In the 5 years he’s been in business he’s grown an agile team of seven. And he’s proud that year after year they’ve grown and improved, delivering great content for great clients. He admits that being his own boss is a challenge. The stress is great but he wouldn’t change it for anything.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Katherine Thompson.  As Head of Ecosystems for Cyber Future Foundation (CFF), Katherine is responsible for generating consensus and cross-sector support for CFF's North American and Global initiatives. Recognized as an accomplished leader and connector, Katherine shares a passion for the cyber security industry and the role it plays in securing our governments, industries and constituents.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Vanessa Quaciari. Vanessa's practice focuses on navigating through complex global eDiscovery issues, information governance, and developing defensible budget-conscious litigation discovery strategies. She advises clients on best practices for internal electronic data processes including preservation, collection, use of data analytics, privacy concerns, document review, and production for compliance, cross-border disputes, regulatory investigations, and global corporate policies.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Dr. Bright Gameli Mawudor. Dr. Mawudor is the CTO at XETOVA, a Data Science as a service organization and also the founder of the Cyber Security collective Africahackon, the first ever Live demonstration Cyber Security Conference in East and Central Africa. He acquired a PhD in IT Convergence and Application Engineering with concentration in Information Security from Pukyong National University, South Korea. He has over 10 years of professional experience in the Cyber Security industry with strong expertise in Cyber security Strategy building, Resilience and system penetration testing. Bright has also presented at over 150 Cyber Security conferences, lectured at various universities and contributed to cyber security publications. He was also recognized by Tribe of Hackers: Blue Team 2020, Top 40 Under 40 2016 of young entrepreneurs in Kenya and worked with world class organizations such as Dimension Data/NTT, Cellulant and Ushahidi. Dr. Mawudor, has performed various evaluations and selections of Cyber Security tools and successfully implemented IT security systems to protect the Confidentiality, Availability and Integrity of critical business environments to curb and mitigate risks. Technically highly skilled in various environments, especially in the Cyber Security space, dedicated and a team player with excellent leadership qualities.

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Today on a special bonus of That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi debut the show's tech and crime segment. Our first case? Britain’s most wanted woman caught after nearly a decade on the run . Kevin Albert, Civil Division Director at PAE, helps break down the technology used to solve the crime.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Jeff Kline. Jeff Kline is the author of “Strategic IT Accessibility: Enabling the Organization” and is a recognized subject matter expert in keys areas of IT accessibility that include policy, rulemaking, process integration, procurement, and risk mitigation. He served as Program Director of Statewide Electronic and Information Resources (EIR) Accessibility at the Texas Department of Information Resources and consults on IT accessibility policy matters for federal agencies, NGOs, accessibility certification bodies, and the Worldwide Web Consortium Accessibility Initiatives. Prior to his current position in public service, Mr. Klinemanaged IBM’s Worldwide Accessibility Consulting and Business Transformation programs. During his 26 years at, he held other management positions in software and hardware development including operating system UI development, system usability, and the IBM Austin Design Center, a multidiscipline team of industrial, UX, and graphic designers. Mr. Kline is degreed in Industrial Design with over 20 patents to his name.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Peter Barbosa. Peter is a leader and expert in the data privacy space. Currently he serves as the CEO of Opsware, where he helps growth companies build trust with their customers by demonstrating compliance and assurances for modern privacy laws around the globe.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Brian Potts. Brian is a business attorney, litigator, entrepreneur, and writer Brian Potts has advised a range of Fortune 100, 500, and smaller clients. Brian and his team have appeared in more than 50 administrative proceedings and dozens of federal and state court cases. In his free time, Brian likes to help startup companies get off the ground. A successful entrepreneur, himself, Brian invented the first and only computer keyboard designed by lawyers for lawyers (called the LegalBoard®) in 2016. And in 2017, Brian helped found his second startup, Goods Unite Us®, which is a nonpartisan, for-profit app and website focused on helping consumers align their purchases and investments with their political beliefs. On Election Day 2020, with Brian’s guidance, a Goods Unite Us subsidiary partnered with an investment advisory firm to launch the first political exchange-traded fund ever listed on NASDAQ.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Kerry Tomlinson. Kerry is a cyber news reporter who works to help people stay smarter and safer online. She spent three decades as a TV news reporter, often going undercover to investigate crimes, winning multiple Emmys and other local, regional and national journalism awards. Now she travels the world looking for creative and compelling ways to show people what is happening in the digital world and how it impacts them. She has reported from Russia, the Philippines, Spain, Denmark, Turkey, Argentina, Colombia and more. She has launched a number of new news programs, organizations and investigative units during her career and has recently launched a new cyber news site called Ampere News.

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Links:
Top ten most entertaining passwords that are also ridiculously easy to hack

Article:

https://www.amperesec.com/news/top-ten-most-entertaining-passwords

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjIHx_JU6eE

Vickie doesn't exist: Deepfakes in your LinkedIn
Article:

https://www.amperesec.com/news/deepfakes-in-your-linkedin

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zyoN_To5kic

Three tech tricks romance scammers use to fool their victims
Article:

https://www.amperesec.com/news/three-tech-tricks-romance-scammers-use

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NEYMXcwwKM

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Today On That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Lauren Wetzel. Lauren is the Chief Operating Officer at InfoSum, overseeing the global marketing, strategy and operations teams, as well as InfoSum’s People management. InfoSum is a data collaboration platform that uses privacy-first technology to connect customer records between and amongst companies without ever sharing any data.  She is also responsible for building and managing InfoSum’s business development and channel partnerships team. Lauren previously served as President, North America, Strategy & Operations for InfoSum. Prior to joining InfoSum, Lauren was SVP, Strategy and Corporate Development for AT&T’s advertising company, Xandr, and as an Engagement Manager, Strategy at Deloitte within their Media and Entertainment practice.

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Today On That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Hinge's Data Privacy Expert Anna Togia about data privacy and Netflix’s new documentary, The Tinder Swindler.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Nishant Bhajaria. Nishant is an executive leader and industry-expert in the privacy and security space and currently serves as the Head of Privacy Engineering and Governance at Uber. 

He is the author of Data Privacy, a guide for engineers on how to implement strong data privacy practices which is available now! Nishant also serves on the Advisory Board of Data Protocol, an education and training platform for developers whose job it is to protect consumer data. 

Nishant believes it is important to ensure developers and engineers have the tools and training to implement smart, effective data privacy measures. 

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Today on a special bonus episode of  That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi discuss a recent report that finds one of the world’s most prominent mental health support lines, Crisis Text Line, share it's data with the organization's sister company in order to create customer service software.

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Today on That Tech pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Kate Francis. Kate is a Privacy and Ethics Researcher, Development & Communications specialist at ICT Legal Consulting and an external PhD Candidate at the Maastricht University Faculty of Law. Kate’s research topics include transparency in the EU legal framework, Data Protection as a Corporate Social Responsibility, and GDPR enforcement. She has experience working on H2020 projects such as the nIoVe project on cybersecurity in Connected and Automated Vehicles and the AnonymAI project which developed a prototype for automated anonymization that protects the personal data of users when contained in large collections of unstructured natural language content.

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"Data Protection as a Corporate Social Responsibility" (DPCSR)

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Daniel Rupprecht and Timothy Latulippe from iDS. iDS, or iDiscovery Solutions, is an award-winning expert services and consulting firm. Founded by industry veterans, we deliver customised, innovative solutions for legal and corporate clients in digital forensics, eDisclosure consulting,processing and hosting of data, structured and unstructured data analytics, information governance and cybersecurity.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Greg Edwards, CEO at Cryprostopper. CryptoStopper provides ransomware protection by automatically detecting and stopping actively running ransomware attacks. They are the world’s first digital security product to offer 100% ransomware protection.  In addition, Greg also owns an MSP IT business and our company has been helping businesses recover from the Derecho (land hurricane) that hit Cedar Rapids, Iowa, where he lives.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with technology reporter at Morning Consult, Chris Teale, about a recent study that finds 56 percent of U.S. adults said they supported government regulation of social media companies – an uptick of 4 percentage points from an October survey.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi are joined by cybersecurity expert, Naomi Buckwalter, and Legal Tech News Editor-in-chief, Zach Warren, for a special New Years  episode. We discuss a wide range of topics including but certainly not limited to cyberattacks, social credit systems, and computer simulations in 2022 and beyond.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Bastian Purrer and Namik Muduroglu of Human ID. HumanID’s first goal was to bring the “one” in one human, one voice to the internet: there should only be one identity per human. This inspired us to build a single sign-on tool, addressing the beginning of internet identity. We first committed to making it restrictive of multiple accounts: one human, one humanID. The technical implementation of this theory is currently to require a phone number for sign-on; while not perfect, most people will stick to one phone number.

“One human, one voice” does not just mean that people’s identities are restricted. These voices must be free. For a democracy to work, its participants must be free to speak their mind without unfair consequences. This is freedom of speech. In creating a one identity per human system, humanID would jeopardize freedom of speech online, where everything is recorded, without the appropriate safeguard.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Christine Lovett. Christine is the Principal Customer Engineer at Sourcegraph. As a former software developer and customer engineer at Google and Docker, Christine now works closely with Sourcegraph’s top customers to help them get the most out of Universal Code Search. She started her career in sales before learning to code, and ultimately merged her skillset into customer-facing technical roles. She has found her niche specializing in technology ranging from app modernization in cloud to bleeding-edge developer tools.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Anna Togia. Anna leads Product Data Privacy, Security & Compliance at Hinge, the dating app designed to be deleted. Anna’s extensive experience in cultivating a culture and awareness around Privacy by Design, means users can focus on going on great dates while knowing their data remains safe and protected.

Prior to Hinge, Anna was the Product Lead for Privacy at Cvent, an Event Management SaaS company, where she focused on supporting customers & leading product teams through the implementation of GDPR, CCPA and other Privacy & Compliance requirements, policies and procedures.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with digital forensics expert, Stephen Cordon. Stephen has over 11 years’ experience working within eDiscovery and Digital Forensics in the UK. He has extensive experience working in the criminal and corporate sectors. Coupled with this Stephen brings both business analysis and process automation experience to his field helping identify business value from the use of data driven technology and further streamline technical processes. Further details about his profile can be found at www.stephencordon.co.uk and https://www.linkedin.com/in/shcordon/.  Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpodLinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpodwebsite: thattechpod.com. 

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Robert Wesley, an internationally recognised counter-terrorism and security expert, with a unique perspective having worked extensively during the last two decades in the public, private and academic sectors in the cross-section of technology and security. Robert is also an accomplished serial entrepreneur, having founded five companies in three countries focusing on everything from terrorism research to Artificial intelligence. He is currently focused on his new startup My AI, which uses A.I. to help consumers obtain hyper-personalized services while protecting their privacy in the process.  Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpodwebsite: thattechpod.com. 

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Rachel McAdams, an experienced eDiscovery professional, currently sitting within the Data Projects Group at A&L Goodbody. As the Legal Technology and eDiscovery Senior Manager for ALG, she advises on the use of technology, as well as best practices, for data-driven investigations and eDiscovery. She has consulted on numerous regulatory investigations in multiple jurisdictions, and been responsible for scoping, collating data sources, and designing workflows for a smooth and efficient investigation. Rachel is a hands-on advocate of using technology to accelerate investigations and utilise data to its fullest potential. Rachel is a Certified Relativity Master, and a Certified eDiscovery Specialist. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpodwebsite: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak to Dr. Khaled El Emam, the leading authority on synthetic data and anonymization in Canada. Dr. El Emam is a senior scientist at the Children’s Hospital of Eastern Ontario (CHEO) Research Institute and Director of the multi-disciplinary Electronic Health Information Laboratory, conducting applied research on data synthesis, and the identifiability of health information and how to measure it, as well as a Professor in the  School of Epidemiology and Public Health at the University of Ottawa. He founded or co-founded several companies involved with data management, and data analytics, and privacy enhancing technologies, and most recently Replica Analytics. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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On today’s That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Sarah Ledgerwood, Manager in the Cybersecurity, Privacy and Forensics team at PWC, Ireland. Sarah is a knowledgeable data privacy & protection compliance manager with an extensive background in eDiscovery and information governance. She has 20 years of experience across the legal, technology, and marketing industries. Since graduating from law school and particularly enjoys the challenge of translating and communicating the benefits of technology to help clients innovate and optimize their information governance, data protection, and eDiscovery programs. Sarah earned her b.a. in political science from the University of Washington and J.D. from American University, Washington College of Law in Washington, D.C. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with cybersecurity expert, Adley Francois. Adley is a senior cybersecurity executive with over two decades of experience. He has created and assessed security infrastructure and operations at the national, international, and corporate level having worked with senior government officials, foreign ministers, and senior corporate executives in over 24 countries. Adley Francois is a senior cybersecurity executive with over two decades of experience.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak to Piper Crowell. Piper currently works inhouse for an American multinational corperation on privacy and digital policy issues. Seperately, she was appointed by Governor Brown as a council member of the Oregon Innovation Council. For the state of Oregon, she also serves on the Futures Commission, contributing to a comprehensive set of policy measures for a statewide 10-year Innovation Plan.

Previously, Piper worked at Pandora Media leading outreach to Congress and federal agencies on issues relating to streaming media platforms, apps, e-commerce, and online advertising. Before Pandora, Piper was the Campaign Manager for Congressman Jared Huffman’s 2012 campaign and subsequently, Piper served as the Congressman’s Legislative Director in DC, serving the 2nd district of California.

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Today on That Tech Pod's bonus episode, Laura and Gabi talk to The Data Diva, Debbie Reynolds, about all things data privacy and vaccine passports. Today on That Tech Pod's bonus episode, Laura and Gabi talk to The Data Diva, Debbie Reynolds, about all things data privacy and vaccine passports. Learn more about The Data Diva at https://www.debbiereynoldsconsulting.com.  Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpodwebsite: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Kelby Ballena. Kelby is the International Arbitration Practice Manager at the international law firm,  Allen and Overy. Kelby has 20 years experience in the legal field and is an expert on tech innovations. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpodwebsite: thattechpod.com

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Today On That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Jenny Le, Managaer at EY. Jenny has over 14 years of experience in law and regulation. With a molecular biology background, she started her career practicing intellectual property litigation in NYC, then leaned into her love of tech, specializing in eDiscovery and Privacy. For the last 3 years, Jenny has been based in Munich, Germany, where as a Senior Manager at EY, she helps global organizations, comply with GDPR - not just on paper, but also in practice. As data protection regulations are popping up more and more frequently, globally, there is a strong need for organizations who have presence in multiple jurisdictions to implement internal processes and methodologies that comply with multiple regulations and which are flexible enough to include emerging ones. Jenny and her team focuses on leveraging technology to build customized workflows to most efficiently achieve data protection compliance. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpodwebsite: thattechpod.com

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Today on a bonus episode of That Tech Pod, Gabi talks to author Matt Stoller about Facebook's bad week and what it all means for big tech moving forward. Follow Matt on twitter at @matthewstoller and more of Matt's writings at https://mattstoller.substack.com/ and mattstoller.com. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpodwebsite: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with AJ Yawn. AJ Yawn is the Co-Founder and CEO at ByteChek. AJ has earned 6 AWS certifications including the AWS Solutions Architect-Professional and AWS Security-Specialty. Prior to ByteChek, AJ spent over a decade in the cybersecurity industry both in the US Army and as a consultant. He is a regular speaker at SANS Cloud Security curriculum events such as BIPOC in Cloud Forum and CloudSecNext Summit, and can be found teaching SEC557: Continuous Automation for Enterprise and Cloud Compliance. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpodwebsite: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Scott McVeigh. Scott is the Industry Principal at Onna. For over 24 years he has been providing information governance strategies and technology implementations, both as a consultant and in-house roles. His background includes significant project and programmatic work on records management, e-discovery and information privacy for large enterprises and government clients globally.. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpodwebsite: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Meribeth Banaschik, EY Europe West Forensics Discovery & Digital Solutions Lead and EY EMEIA Field of Play Leader, Legal and Investigations. Meribeth is an attorney and former litigator who provides talent and experience in eDiscovery solutions, managed document review, data protection compliance, disputes and contract management. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to analyst and research director for privacy, data protection, and security at GRC World Forums, Robert Bateman, about the recent emergency update from Apple.  Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with John Ghent, co-founder and CEO at PrivacyEngine, which leverages cutting edge technologies to deliver end-to-end Data Protection solutions. Recently named Enterprise Ireland’s High Potential Start-Up founder of the year, Johnhas an entrepreneurial background that spans several decades and is a thought leader in Machine Learning and Data Protection. John has extensive experience in developing and scaling smart technology solutions with particular focus on data protection compliance. He is the primary IT architect for the PrivacyEngine platform that revolutionises compliance for DPOs. PrivacyEngine is deployed in over 40 jurisdictions and growing. John has PhD and BSc in computer science from National University of Ireland, Maynooth. He attended Harvard Business School, completing an Executive Education Programme. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Juliet Okafor, J.D.,the Chief Engagement Officer (CEO) for RevolutionCyber. Juliet is a cybersecurity professional who has combined her knowledge of the legal system and cybersecurity solution models into success stories across fortune 500 industries throughout the USA. Her ability to scope, plan and design the creation of an OT Cybersecurity Management System framework for one of the largest cruise lines in the world is testament of her commitment and leadership regardless of the challenge. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Michael Quartararo, the President of the Association of Certified E-Discovery Specialists (ACEDS). ACEDS provides training and certification in e-discovery and professional development courses to corporate legal departments, law firms and the broader legal community. With 1400 CEDS-certified professionals and 2500 members active in 22 chapters throughout major US cities, Canada, the UK, Benelux, South Africa and Australia, ACEDS is the gold standard in e-discovery training. Mike is also the author of the 2016 book Project Management in Electronic Discovery and has been teaching, consulting and solving problems in information governance, e-discovery, project management and legal technology for over two decades. He is considered one of the foremost authorities on legal project management and built his career upon strategic and innovative thinking, leadership and operational skills honed at the best legal organizations in the world. Following 10-year stints at both Skadden Arps Slate Meagher & Flom LLP and Stroock & Stroock & Lavan LLP, Mike launched his own successful company, eDPM Advisory Services, a consulting firm providing legal operations, e-discovery and project management advisory services to corporate legal departments and law firms. As a part-time graduate professor, Mike designed and taught a curriculum on e-discovery project management at Bryan University. A graduate of the State University of New York, he is a certified Project Management Professional (PMP) and a Certified E-Discovery Specialist (CEDS). He frequently writes and speaks on e-discovery, legal operations, project management and technology topics. Reach him via email at mquartararo@aceds.org or on Twitter @mikequartararo. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on a bonus episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak to digital forensics expert, Mandi Wiggins, about the Freedom Phone. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Gabi checks in with Laura who is on the ground at ILTACON and chats with David Horrigan, Relativity’s discovery counsel and legal education director, and Zach Warren, editor-in-chief, Legaltech News.

At Relativity, David leads the company’s legal and industry education and analyst relations programs and serves as liaison to legal associations. An attorney, law school guest lecturer, e-discovery industry analyst, and award-winning journalist, David has served as counsel at the Entertainment Software Association, reporter and assistant editor at The National Law Journal, and analyst and counsel at 451 Research.

Zach is the editor-in-chief of Legaltech News, a national brand of ALM Media. In his role, Zach helps explore the intersection of law and technology, leading one of the premier outlets for legal technology news and analysis while also writing and editing both feature and daily articles for Law.com's network of magazines, including Corporate Counsel and The American Lawyer. Before LTN, Zach worked at InsideCounsel magazine and sports analytics startup numberFire. He currently lives in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and has received his MBA from the University of Minnesota and undergraduate degree from Northwestern University's Medill School of Journalism.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Rob Shavell. Rob is CEO of Abine / DeleteMe, The Online Privacy Company. Rob has been quoted as a privacy expert in the Wall Street Journal, New York Times, The Telegraph, NPR, ABC, NBC, and Fox. Rob is a vocal proponent of privacy legislation reform, including the California Privacy Rights Act (CPRA). Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on a bonus episode of That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Peter T. Mastroianni, a top trial partner at Reichman Jorgensen Lehman and Feldberg. He is a seasoned attorney with nearly 25 years’ experience focusing on ESI, E-Discovery, electronic evidence, information governance and knowledge management-related matters.  Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi chat with Business Mentor, Sarah Cooper. Sarah started her online Health and Wellness business with Arbonne a few years back. She is also totally obsessed with creating video on LinkedIn and can more often than not be found tramping around a field in the dark in the early hours of the morning, talking about all things mindset, health, miracle morning and more! Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak with Mattias Aggeler, Partner at SFTS Engineering Ltd. Switzerland. He has been working in IT Forensics, eDiscovery and IT Security for more than 12 years after completing his University Degree (Msc) in Computer Science in Zürich. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi Talk to Executive Director and Co-Founder of Code2College, Matt Stephenson. Code2College is an n Austin-based nonprofit that equips traditionally underrepresented high school students with coding and professional skills towards entering and excelling STEM undergraduate majors and fields.In Fall 2016, Code2College launched as a pilot in two schools serving 30 students. Four years later, Code2College has served nearly 1,000 minority and low-income high school students from across Central Texas. Code2College has continued to place high school students into highly competitive, technical internships at companies like Indeed and RetailMeNot. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Civil Division Director at PAE, Kevin Albert. Kevin is a senior-level technology executive with 20+ years of experience combining a unique blend of technical expertise, business management, and customer service. He is a team-focused professional and outstanding problem-solver adept at aligning technology, management, and business strategies. His experience includes leading technical teams, project management, and business analysis across a wide variety of environments, spanning large and small consulting companies—including two of the “Big 4”—litigation support vendors, and start-ups. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to CEO and Co-Founder of Trellis Research, Nicole Clark. Trellis Research is a legal analytics platform that uses AI and machine learning to provide litigators with strategic legal intelligence and judicial analytics. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Jeff Jockisch, CEO and a Data Privacy Researcher at PrivacyPlan. Jeff is a Cornell graduate of the Industrial and Labor Relations School in 1986. He’s passionate about privacy, reputation, and disinformation. Jeff transitioned into data privacy 4 years ago and is certificated as a CIPP/US. He’s previously built search engines, mortgage information systems, knowledge graphs, content and content curation systems, and more in internet startups and large financial businesses. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to CRM Success Catalyst, Gill Walker. Through her workshops, Gill shows how to use your Most Valuable Asset to gain and retain the clients you serve best. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Amman Ahmed. Amman has created the "Netflix for Pets". With two brands: RelaxMyDog and RelaxMyCat, Amman's company is an inhouse content producer that makes relaxing music, TV, and games for pets based on 8 years of research. With 20 million pets around the world using their products, a total of 1200 years of content is consumed every 28 days. Music for Pets was launched in 2011, as a spin off of Amman's previous company roundwaves: a network of YouTube channels that focused on making music to help you sleep, relax, concentrate as well as music for pets. In his 9 years of experience founding and building companies, Amman has raised £0 in investment, achieved $1.4m in annual turnover, and catered to 42 million pets around the world. These achievements would not have been possible without the team of 15 Amman manages and works with.  Visit musicforpets.co or @AmmanAmd for more info!

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Jules Polonetsky, CEO of the Future of Privacy Forum, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit organization that serves as a catalyst for privacy leadership and scholarship, advancing principled data practices in support of emerging technologies.  Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to CEO of Waverly Labs, Andrew Ochoa to discuss the technology behind The Ambassador, a tool that makes no more language barriers possible. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Paul Lackey, attorney and partner at Stinson LLP Law Firm. Paul has served as lead trial lawyer, outside litigation counsel and trusted advisor to large financial institutions for over two decades. 
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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Amy Juers, CEO of Edge Marketing and Director of Internal Chapters of Women in eDiscovery. With 20 years of strategic marketing experience and global practice, Amy also offers a consultative voice for her team and clients. Amy serves on the leadership team of Women in eDiscovery, heading up new international chapters, she also is an ILTA Partner Advisory Council member, EDRM Global Council member and serves on her daughters' hockey team board.
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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi speak to the leadership team of Aitheras. Andrew Milisits, founder and managing partner, and partners, Joseph T. Friend and Benjamin Hankins. Andrew founded AITHERAS, LLC in 2002 and has since led the successful growth of this well-positioned and well-managed 8(a) small business enterprise. With 20+ years’ experience in business development and managing $80M to $220M portfolio accounts, Joseph has a successful track record of multiplying profit for small to mid-size businesses. Ben is an expert in the provision of program and acquisition management support, with a career that spans over 30 years in the federal sector. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to cybersecurity expert, Adley Francois,  about the Colonial Pipeline cyberattack.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Karyn Harty. Karyn Harty is a partner at McCann FitzGerald in Dublin, specialising in complex commercial litigation and investigations. Karyn is a passionate believer in doing things better, and spearheaded the use of technology assisted review for discovery in Ireland. She heads up the firm’s Legal Technology Solutions division, which manages complex projects and provides state of the art digital solutions to the firm and its clients. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Ian Campbell. Ian Campbell is President & CEO of iCONECT, a global market leader in producing cutting-edge innovative eDiscovery Document Review software used by leading law firms in some of the world’s most complex legal cases. He is responsible for sales operations and business development, product lifecycle development and partner relations. A key priority is cross-marketing the iCONECT platform to the plaintiff, medical, government, corporate, and police services industries.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Doug Austin. Doug is the Editor of eDiscovery Today, which is a daily blog about trends, best practices and case law in electronic discovery, cybersecurity and data privacy. Doug is an established eDiscovery thought leader, consultant and blogger with over 30 years of experience providing eDiscovery best practices, legal technology consulting and technical project management services to numerous clients. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Trent Livingston, President and CEO of ESI Analyst. Trent has provided consulting and expert testimony surrounding structured data, process automation, and complex data analytics throughout his two-decade career in electronic discovery and technology. With his deep and personal understanding of the cost and complexities facing electronic discovery investigations, Mr. Livingston has teamed with industry professionals spanning computer forensics to forensic accountants to innovate the data visualization and investigation technology platform ESI Analyst. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter-@thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Naomi Buckwalter, CISSP CISM, the Director of Information Security & IT at Beam Technologies. She has over 20 years' experience in IT and Security and has held roles in Software Engineering, Security Architecture, Security Engineering, and Security Leadership. As a cybersecurity career adviser and mentor for people around the world, her passion is helping people, particularly women, get into cybersecurity.

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Today on That Tech Pod, Laura and Gabi talk to Managing Director of Global eDiscovery and Data Advisory at Baker McKenzie, Bryant Isbell. Bryant is an industry expert with more than 20 years of experience focusing on information governance, data privacy, full EDRM lifecycle execution and management, and data analytics. Follow That Tech Pod: Twitter- @thattechpod LinkedIn: LinkedIn.com/thattechpod website: thattechpod.com

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