Okay Back to One!: Recent Episodes
Kerry Carlock
Interviews, advice, encouragement and accountability for anyone making their Hollywood dream a reality.
On this episode I’m talking to editor Lex Benedict about loving genre, diving into the footage of my latest film, SUFFER and rising from the ashes. Her latest feature, The Greatest Inheritance is available now for pre-order.
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On this episode I’m talking to fight choreographer Jenn Zuko about how she approaches a script and how that approach informed her work on our new film, SUFFER.
(You can check out the first glimpses of the footage of the movie on our seed and spark page. www.seedandspark.com/fund/suffer)
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Jenn Zuko
Website: https://jennzuko.wordpress.com/
Instagram: @jennzuko
Jenn's Book: Stage Combat: Fisticuffs, Stunts, and Swordplay for Theater and Film
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0041IXRHK/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_tkin_p1_i0
SUFFER Crowdfunding
seedandspark.com/fund/suffer
Dos Goats on Instagram: @dosgoatsfilms
On this very special episode of Okay Back to One, Nick and I turned on the mic while we drove back to LA after shooting our new movie in Idaho. Our conversation is a grateful love letter to indie filmmaking, the gem state and the amazing people that made it all happen.
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IDAHO BASECAMP
Website: https://idahobasecamp.org/
NAOMI MCDOUGALL JONES
Website: https://www.naomimcdougalljones.com/
imdb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2328697/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_5
APRIL FRAME
imdb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2368529/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
ALEX FLANNERY
imdb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm7516063/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
JEN SORENSON
imdb: https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2295145/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
VENESIA DILLON
Website: https://veniesadillon5991.wixsite.com/phoenixproductions
JENN ZUKO
Website: https://jennzuko.wordpress.com/about/
Jamie Renee Smith began her acting career at the ripe young age of six and soon landed a starring role opposite Pierce Brosnan and Linda Hamilton in the 1997 box office giant Dante’s Peak. And that was just the beginning! You may also recognize her from recent hit television shows as 9-1-1, Better Things, and Weeds. Jamie is also a sought after acting teacher specializing in audition prep and coaching. We talk about her life as an actor, how to direct actors and getting rid of first day jitters. So many gems in this one!!!
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Jamie's imdb page:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0808603/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
Jamie's coaching website:
https://www.thejamiereneesmith.com/coaching
Follow Jamie on Instagram:
@jrsmithcoaching
A Sense of Direction by William Ball:
https://www.amazon.com/Sense-Direction-Some-Observations-Directing/dp/0896760820/ref=sr_1_3?dchild=1&keywords=a+sense+of+direction&qid=1620075868&sr=8-3
Welcome to Season Two of OKAY BACK TO ONE!
And hasn't it just been one hellava back to one for all of us?! Nick and I are trying to get back on track with a micro-budget film we've been writing! Once we've shot it, we’re thinking of doing a crowdfunding campaign to raise the money for post. I’ve never crowdfunded so luckily my friend, Kelsey Jonikas, agreed to share what she’s learning running her first campaign right now. I first met Kelsey as the sound mixer on ARMSTRONG and so she’s also going to give us some feedback on WHAT WE GOT WRONG!
KELSEY'S BIO
Kelsey Jonikas is a union boom operator and utility who got her start in the film industry eight years ago as a bag mixer on independent short films and features. Now her resume spans multiple films and TV shows including Netflix's LUCIFER, ATYPICAL, ANIMAL KINGDOM, and GREY'S ANATOMY. In the past few years she has also branched out into the world of screenwriting and is currently in pre-production of her first short film LEVEL ONE.
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THE HEAD HUNTER
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt6469548/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
LEVEL ONE CAMPAIGN ON SEED & SPARK
seedandspark.com/fund/level-one-film
LEVEL ONE ON FACEBOOK
https://www.facebook.com/LevelOneFilm
LEVEL ONE ON INSTAGRAM
@LevelOneFilm
FOLLOW US ON INSTAGRAM!
@okaybacktoone
As states and businesses start re-opening, Hollywood is testing the production waters and indie filmmakers are on the forefront of braving this new frontier. I’m talking to actor, writer and producer Jules Bruff about her journey to shooting her second feature.
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Jules Bruff on imdb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1024046/
ELLIE PARKER:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0436262/
PART TIME FABULOUS:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt1754336/?ref_=nm_flmg_act_27
ZODIAC:
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0443706/?ref_=fn_al_tt_1
Seed & Spark Panel FINISHED IN FOUR - a 4 week Screenwriting Challenge with John Ridley
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QUgaAAGWlUw
Follow Jules on IG and Twitter:
@julesbruff
Follow the podcast on IG and Facebook:
@okaybacktoone
It seems like we’re all counting days right now but I found a way to do it that’s actually moving my next project forward. Assistant Director Gary Cotti taught me Movie Magic Scheduling and he has some amazing insight to share about communicating with the AD department, marking your story days and avoiding the "Sunday Scaries."
In this episode I’m talking to psychiatrist and poet Dr. Monisha Vasa who has given me a new perspective on goal setting. Because right now we don’t have to be doing everything but we can move toward.
And stay tuned to the end of the show for an exciting update from last episode’s guest ARMSTRONG screenwriter Nick Rufca.
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Dr. Monisha Vasa's website:
http://monishavasa.com/
Dr. Vasa's podcast, MORE HAPPINESS LESS SUFFERING:
http://mhlspodcast.com/
Dr. Vasa's book SALVE: WORDS FOR THE JOURNEY:
https://www.amazon.com/Salve-Journey-MD-Monisha-Vasa/dp/0578572400
THE ARTIST'S WAY, A Spiritual Path to Higher Creativity:
https://www.amazon.com/Artists-Way-25th-Anniversary-ebook/dp/B006H19H3M/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=artist%27s+way+book&qid=1589297270&s=books&sr=1-1
This episode is the second part of my series on breaking down the process of our first feature. My husband and filmmaking partner, Nick Lund-Ulrich joins my conversation with ARMSTRONG screenwriter Nick Rufca!
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Nick Rufca on imdb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1339865/
Watch ARMSTRONG on Prime:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/amzn1.dv.gti.d6af50d8-7e06-99f8-4c9f-12572810c1cf?autoplay=1
ISA (International Screenwriters' Association) script submissions website
https://www.networkisa.org/writinggigs/all/?filter=19
Scriptnotes Episode 399:
https://johnaugust.com/2019/notes-on-notes
We all have an origin story but pitching yourself and your work is harder than it seems. My guest- director Rachel Raimist- has some great tips for standing out that she honed while on her own amazing journey. She also talks about how the skills she learned as a professor help her on set. This is a great one for aspiring directors!!!
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Rachel Raimist on IMDb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1325497/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
Rachel’s website:
https://www.rachelmakesmovies.com/bio
Read about Rachel’s high school documentary as featured on the Gaurdian: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2020/feb/01/like-movie-students-uncovered-toxic-waste-scandal
Read Rachel’s blogpost about Ava DuVernay’s MY MIC SOUNDS NICE and other important works about women in hip hop (you can still see Ava’s comment at the bottom!):
https://www.crunkfeministcollective.com/2010/09/07/lensing-the-culture-hip-hop-women-behind-the-camera/
Ava DuVernay on IMDb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1148550/?ref_=tt_ov_wr
Happier in Hollywood podcast:
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/happier-in-hollywood/id1236845161
First Time Directors Episodic Orientation Program from the DGA:
https://www.dga.org/Employers/First-Time-Episodic-Orientation-Program.aspx
Director Jen McGowan is the perfect guest for this crazy moment in time because she understands the importance in cultivating community. She is the founder of the online resource for women in film and television, Glass Elevator, and you can see it in her film work, too. Check out her features Kelly & Cal and Rust Creek.
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Jen McGowan on IMDb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0569653/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
Kelly & Cal:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0FSC5A301T0FA3ZWPS6HXNSFX3/ref=imdbref_tt_wbr_pvc_ifcunlimited?tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_pvc_ifcunlimited-20
Rust Creek:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0MJDYJ3UDLUMBSMNLSEDPAHZGB/ref=imdbref_tt_wbr_pvc_showtimeSub?tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_pvc_showtimeSub-20
Glass Elevator:
https://www.glasselevate.com/about
Mad Max: Fury Road:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0TZUGU34M6ERS1P05O1NRT8H5O/ref=imdbref_tt_wbr_pvt_aiv?tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_pvt_aiv-20
More wonderful content from our Wrong Kind of Women book party! Here is Naomi McDougall Jones answering questions from the audience about the power of agents, why dressing up to go to the movies can save indie films and her favorite examples of the female gaze.
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Naomi McDougall Jones on IMDb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2328697/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
The Joyful Vampire Tour web series:
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZwk4UIc6w0sk361eFiJA5w
Naomi's resources for Women In Film on her website:
https://www.naomimcdougalljones.com/women-in-film-resources
To celebrate IWD2020, I spoke with women in film activist Naomi McDougall Jones. In this live recording at the launch event for her new book THE WRONG KIND OF WOMEN, our audience dressed up as their favorite "wrong kind on woman" and Naomi and I talked about everything from the importance of Hermione Granger to the shocking commonality between Oscar nominees Sofia Coppola, Kathryn Bigelow and Greta Gerwig. If you are ready to join the "revolution to dismantle the gods of Hollywood" start right here!
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Naomi McDougall Jones on IMDb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2328697/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_0
Naomi's website:
https://www.naomimcdougalljones.com/
Naomi's book "The Wrong Kind of Women":
https://www.amazon.com/Wrong-Kind-Women-Revolution-Dismantle/dp/0807033456
Naomi's film "Bite Me":
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0H3BEWDSMKGFPRL47WX13NWWXP/ref=imdbref_tt_wbr_pvt_aiv?tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_pvt_aiv-20
International Women's Day:
https://www.internationalwomensday.com/
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TLC said it best “don’t go chasing waterfalls” - we’re talking about the financial realities of indie film distribution deals. I’m going to share our Armstrong numbers and my guest director/producer Dawn Fields has her own analysis based on her experience at the market in Canne.
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Watch Naomi McDougall Jones’ film bite me BITE ME on Prime:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0H3BEWDSMKGFPRL47WX13NWWXP/ref=imdbref_tt_wbr_pvt_aiv?tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_pvt_aiv-20
EPISODE 7 of the JOYFUL VAMPIRE TOUR web series featuring Kerry and Nick Spilling the Beans about their distribution deal for Armstrong:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bODUWn8JqeM&t=141s
FILMTREPENEUR PODCAST with Alex Ferrari in which they spill more beans:
https://filmtrepreneur.com/bad-film-distribution-deal/
HER MIND IN PIECES webpage, Dawn’s anthology feature which includes her short FRAGILE STORM:
https://hermindinpieces.com/
13 BLACKBIRD LANE storyboards and one-sheet:
https://13blackbirdlane.com
LAST BITE support page- don't forget discount code 10OFF!:
https://lastbitemovie.com/support/
EVENTBRITE page for the WRONG KIND OF WOMEN book launch party:
https://www.eventbrite.com/e/wrong-kind-of-women-book-launch-party-tickets-94238759667
I have some quick thoughts on the Oscars and then I’m excited to share my conversation with Armstrong director of photography Amanda Treyz. She has agreed to honestly break it down for us- what did we get right and what did we get wrong on our first feature? She tells all.
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Amanda Treyz on IMDb
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1439732/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
See Amanda's work in these movies!
ARMSTRONG
https://www.amazon.com/Armstrong-Vicky-Jeudy/dp/B075SQMC93/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=armstrong+vicky+jeudy&qid=1582648855&sr=8-1
NEW MONEY
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0S7ZV3C8HS3A92J9V2ZUMGL4JJ/ref=imdbref_tt_wbr_pvs_piv?tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_pvs_piv-20
INTO THE DARK
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt8427140/?ref_=nm_flmg_cin_9
If you’ve ever wondered what it would be like to have a really smart, funny, supportive mentor guiding you through a major change in your life this is the episode for you! I recorded my latest session with my career coach Joanne Zippel and I’m sharing it with you- warts and tears and all!
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Joanne Zippel on IMDb
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm3529714/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
Joanne's Zip Creative Career Coaching
http://zipcreative.net/
Lets be honest, I’m overwhelmed with everything I want to do to make the most of my Back to One moment so I have to get serious about time management! And my guest- screenwriter and producer Hudson Phillips has some great tips along with an inspiring indie filmmaking story. So this episode is called Time is On Your Side. This is Okay Back to One: surviving the stops and starts of a Hollywood career. I’m Kerry Carlock.
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Hudson Phillips on IMDb
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm4107902/?ref_=fn_al_nm_2
THIS WORLD ALONE official trailer
https://vimeo.com/291945212
It’s that time of year! But instead of Resolutions I’m sharing my list of New Years SOLUTIONS. And my conversation with author Carole Kirschner lays out plenty of them too that will keep us moving toward our creative goals in 2020!
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Carole Kirschner's website:
https://www.carolekirschner.com/about
Carole's book HOLLYWOOD GAME PLAN:
https://www.amazon.com/Hollywood-Game-Plan-Digital-Entertainment-ebook/dp/B0087GZBU8
GET THE F*CK UNTUCK workshop schedule:
https://www.carolekirschner.com/gtfu
Its about time we started talking about indie filmmaking! I’m going to share the three biggest lessons we learn on ARMSTRONG. And then my friend actress/writer/producer Seana Kofoed and I are going to continue the conversation about our first features. So this episode is called “FIRST FEATURE POST MORTEM."
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Seana Kofoed on IMDb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0463057/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
Seana's film 30 MILES FROM NOWHERE on Prime:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/video/detail/0QSURUWPLEW7P935PGO0FWDNLT/ref=imdbref_tt_wbr_pvs_piv?tag=imdbtag_tt_wbr_pvs_piv-20
Alex Ferrari's book THE RISE OF THE FILMTREPENEUR:
https://www.amazon.com/Rise-Filmtrepreneur-Independent-Profitable-Business-ebook/dp/B07V9J6L71/ref=sr_1_1?crid=3CS9F14CFWRI2&keywords=rise+of+the+filmtrepreneur&qid=1582649892&s=digital-text&sprefix=rise+of+the+film%2Cdigital-text%2C201&sr=1-1
Naomi McDougall Jone's webseries THE JOYFUL VAMPIRE TOUR
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCZwk4UIc6w0sk361eFiJA5w
LA TIMES article about female filmmakers "sophomore slump"
https://www.latimes.com/entertainment/movies/la-et-mn-sophomore-slump-diverse-filmmakers-20160617-snap-story.html
The story behind the panic attack that helped me accept my back to one and guest Jamie Fox discusses how her fertility journey put her in touch with her gut- literally and figuratively.
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Jamie Fox on IMDb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm1785209/?ref_=fn_al_nm_1
Jamie & Josh's piece in the LA TIMES: LA AFFAIRS:
https://www.latimes.com/style/laaffairs/la-hm-josh-cootner-jamie-fox-la-affairs-20170120-story.html
Jamie & Josh's piece in the NY TIMES: TINY MODERN LOVE STORIES:
https://www.nytimes.com/2018/11/27/style/tiny-modern-love-stories.html
My career path to this moment has been paved with many a BACK TO ONE moment- and I share them all! And then I talk to to my husband and filmmaking partner, Nick Lund Ulrich. His BTO led to our first film ARMSTRONG.
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Nick Lund-Ulrich on IMDb:
https://www.imdb.com/name/nm2087724/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_1
Our first feature ARMSTRONG on Prime:
https://www.amazon.com/Armstrong-Vicky-Jeudy/dp/B075SQMC93/ref=sr_1_1?keywords=armstrong+vicky+jeudy&qid=1582648855&sr=8-1
Scoundrel's Emmy-winning VFX work on THE PACIFIC:
https://vimeo.com/user3732226
If you’ve ever been on a film or television set, you’ve probably heard the phrase: BACK TO ONE! Its usually called out when a take didn’t quite go as planned so you want to keep rolling, reset, and take it from the top one more time. It can be frustrating and exhausting to be so close and have to start all over again. But it's also one of my favorite phrases as a director because there’s something so hopeful and resilient and doggedly determined about getting back on that horse to try again. And its a great title for a podcast about how to survive the starts and stops of a Hollywood career!
I'm going to interview industry professionals who’ve found success despite their own “back to ones” and talk to experts in a variety of fields to discover strategies for staying on track and happy in our creative pursuits. I'm also going to chronicle my own process as I leave my job as a television executive and become a full time indie filmmaker. And you can the discussion at OKAY BACK TO ONE on Instagram and Facebook!