Design Matters with Debbie Millman: Recent Episodes

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Design Matters with Debbie Millman is one of the world’s very first podcasts. Broadcasting independently for over 15 years, the show is about how incredibly creative people design the arc of their lives.

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Neil deGrasse Tyson—world-renowned astrophysicist, Emmy-nominated host, science communicator, and author—is one of the most influential voices in modern science. In this live conversation, recorded at On Air Presents, he joins Debbie Millman to explore the role of science education and why defending science has never been more vital.

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In celebration of 20 years of Design Matters, Debbie Millman revisits one of the show’s most endearing traditions—the very first question. For years, she’s opened each conversation with a playful, deeply researched inquiry: something personal, unexpected, and revealing. In this special anniversary episode, listeners will hear some of Debbie’s favorite first questions and the illuminating answers they inspired.

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In honor of 20 years of Design Matters, Debbie Millman revisits memorable conversations with memoirists Elissa Altman, Thomas Page McBee, Ashley C. Ford, Josh Brolin, and Isaac Fitzgerald. This anniversary collection reflects on the candor, resilience, and storytelling power of five voices who have turned personal experience into unforgettable art.

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To celebrate 20 years of Design Matters, Debbie Millman revisits highlights from her conversations with groundbreaking artists Bisa Butler, Deborah Kass, Marilyn Minter, Amy Sherald, and Ai Weiwei. This anniversary collection brings together the voices of five visionaries whose work challenges conventions, sparks dialogue, and redefines the role of art in our culture.

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Stephen J. Dubner is an award-winning journalist, bestselling author, and co-creator of Freakonomics—the cultural phenomenon that, over the past 20 years, has grown into a global franchise, changing how millions think, revealing the hidden side of everything, and challenging us to question what we know.

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Acclaimed singer-songwriter Suzanne Vega reflects on her pioneering career, the artistry behind her storytelling, and the lasting cultural impact of songs like “Luka” and “Tom’s Diner.” She joins to discuss her new album, Flying with Angels, which poignantly captures the struggles and resilience of our time.

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To mark 20 years of Design Matters, Debbie Millman revisits some of her most memorable conversations with acclaimed non-fiction writers Lisa Taddeo, Malcolm Gladwell, Anne Lamott, Maria Konnikova, and Alain de Botton. This anniversary collection captures the insight, candor, and wisdom of five extraordinary thinkers whose work continues to shape how we see ourselves and the world around us.

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In honor of 20 years of Design Matters, Debbie Millman revisits standout moments from her conversations with some of the most celebrated voices in graphic storytelling—Chris Ware, Alison Bechdel, Roz Chast, Seth, and Lynda Barry. This special retrospective highlights the artistry, humor, and humanity of five groundbreaking creators whose work has transformed the world of comics and beyond.

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To celebrate 20 years of Design Matters, Debbie Millman revisits some of her most memorable conversations with design legends Massimo Vignelli, Michael Bierut, Paula Scher, Chip Kidd, and Louise Fili—icons whose voices and vision have shaped the field.

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Betty Buckley—Tony-winning Broadway legend, Olivier nominee, and beloved “Voice of Broadway”—has spent nearly six decades in theater, film, television, and music. Best known for Cats and Sunset Boulevard, she is an American Theater Hall of Fame inductee and recipient of the American Songbook Association’s Lifetime Achievement Award. She joins to discuss her remarkable career, enduring artistry, and the stories behind her most memorable roles.

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Tim Ferriss is a five-time New York Times bestselling author, a legendary podcaster with over a billion downloads, a prolific angel investor, and a relentless experimenter. During his fourth visit to Design Matters, he shares the story behind Coyote, a new card game he’s quietly been crafting—and the mindset that brought it to life.

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Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist David Cay Johnston has spent his career exposing corruption in business and government. A relentless muckraker, he’s written The Making of Donald Trump and It’s Even Worse Than You Think, offering a searing look at the Trump administration’s impact on America. This archival episode with David Cay Johnston first aired in 2018, during Donald Trump’s first term. The conversation remains just as urgent and relevant today.

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Lulu Miller is a Peabody Award–winning journalist, co-host of Radiolab, founder of the podcast Terrestrials, and author of the acclaimed book Why Fish Don’t Exist. She joins to discuss her career at the intersection of science, philosophy, and storytelling, inviting us to question how we understand the world and our place within it.

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Dr. Joy Buolamwini is a computer scientist and a poet of code who uses art and research to illuminate the social implications of artificial intelligence. She joins to discuss her career as the founder of the Algorithmic Justice League, her best-selling book Unmasking AI: My Mission to Protect What is Human in a World of Machines, and her featured role in the acclaimed Netflix documentary Coded Bias.

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Jennifer Pastiloff is a bestselling author of the memoir On Being Human and travels the world with her workshop, blending writing, yoga, and radical honesty. She joins to discuss turning pain into purpose, the power of vulnerability, and her new book, Proof of Life.

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In celebration of Pride Month, we’re revisiting conversations with accomplished LGBTQ+ guests—Carol Leifer, Paul Tazewell, Sonya Passi, Leisha Hailey, and Kate Moennig—about the journeys that led them to fulfilling professional lives and the influences that shaped who they are today.

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James Dyson is a visionary inventor, designer, educator and founder of Dyson, a global company transforming ordinary household appliances into design and engineering marvels. He joins to discuss his iconic career, the role of failure in the creative process, and how good design can reshape the way we live.

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Craig Federighi, Apple’s senior vice president of Software Engineering, and Alan Dye, Apple’s vice president of Human Interface Design, are two of the most influential creative and technological leaders shaping how we experience the digital world. Together, they represent the rare combination of engineering and design at its highest level, shaping how Apple products feel and behave. They join live at the Apple Headquarters to discuss the much anticipated launch of iOS 26.

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Dane Laffrey is a Tony-winning scenic and costume designer known for his bold, emotionally resonant work on productions like Parade, Once On This Island, and Spring Awakening. He joins to discuss his two decade career and recent set design for Maybe Happy Ending, a true tour de force and one of the most extraordinary stages on Broadway.

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Leisha Hailey and Kate Moennig—actors known for their iconic roles as Shane and Alice on The L Word, the reboot The L Word: Generation Q and co-hosts of the beloved podcast PANTS—join to discuss queer representation, their creative collaborations, and navigating the business of show business.

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The works of artist Olafur Eliasson explore the relevance of art in the world at large. He joins to discuss his three-decade career creating sculptures, installations, paintings, photographs, and film utilizing natural elements—light, color, water, and movement—to alter viewers’ sensory perceptions.

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Carson Ellis is the author and illustrator of the bestselling picture books “Home” and “Du Iz Tak?”. She joins to talk about her life living on a farm in Oregon and her remarkable career illustrating numerous award-winning books for children.

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With his expertise in enigmas and illusions, David Kwong delights and challenges audiences around the world with his intellectual brand of magic. He joins to discuss his one-man show, The Enigmatist, and his career as a magician, crossword puzzle constructor, and writer.

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Anne Morriss and Frances Frei are best-selling authors and among the world’s most influential thinkers, speakers, and advisors. Their clients range from Fortune 10 companies to tech founders to political leaders working to build national competitiveness. They join to talk about their new book, Move Fast and Fix Things, outlining a practical process leaders can implement to drive change.

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Since 1998, David Remnick has been the editor of The New Yorker and has written hundreds of pieces for the magazine, including reporting from Russia, the Middle East, and Europe and Profiles of Barack Obama, Bill Clinton, Katharine Graham, Mike Tyson, Bruce Springsteen and more. He also hosts the magazine’s national radio program and podcast, “The New Yorker Radio Hour.” He joins live at the On Air Fest to talk about his legendary life and career.

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From acclaimed pop spectacles to Super Bowl halftime shows to the Closing Ceremony for the London Olympics, artist and stage designer Es Devlin has transformed large-scale performative sculptures and environments transporting audiences. She joins to discuss two decades of design spanning opera, theatre, and stadium extravaganzas.

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Renowned writer, cultural critic, and scholar of the demimonde Lucy Sante joins to discuss her career and a new memoir, “I Heard Her Call My Name,” reflecting on her transition and self-actualization in her sixties.

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Writer’s Guild Award winner and Emmy-nominated comedian, writer, and producer for television shows such as Seinfeld, The Larry Sanders Show, Saturday Night Live, The Oscars, Modern Family, Curb Your Enthusiasm, and more; Carol Leifer joins to talk about her new book, her writing, and her four-decade career in comedy.

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Widely recognized as a musical genius and once-in-a-generation talent, Jon Batiste is one of history’s most brilliant, prolific, and accomplished musicians. The Grammy, Emmy, and Oscar-winning star joins to discuss his legendary career, connecting people through a shared love of music.

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Michael Goldberg is the Founder and CEO of Something Special Studios, a creative agency building brands, campaigns, and experiences designed to shape culture. He joins to discuss his multifaceted career and a recent creative endeavor, Luna Luna: Forgotten Fantasy, a spectacular second showing of the world’s first art amusement park.

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Todd Pruzan—a prolific writer, editor, and journalist—recently inherited a collection of several thousand New Yorker covers from his family spanning the past 77 years. He joins to read an essay that explores a number of realizations while reviewing the covers, including his family’s Jewish identity.

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Throughout her prolific writing career, Nell Irvin Painter has published works on such luminaries as Sojourner Truth, Ralph Waldo Emerson, and Malcolm X. Her unique vantage on American history pushes the boundaries of personal narrative and academic authorship and asks readers to reconsider ideas of race, politics, and identity. She joins to discuss her legendary career as a distinguished historian, award-winning author, and artist.

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Named one of TIME magazine’s “100 Innovators for the Next New Wave,” Suzan-Lori Parks is the first African American woman to receive the Pulitzer Prize for Drama for Topdog/Underdog. She joins to discuss her long and illustrious career as a playwright, musician, and novelist.

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Founder and Creative Director of the design consultancy HunterGatherer, Todd St. John, joins to discuss his career as a multi-disciplinary artist and designer working in illustration, animation, graphic design, photography, furniture, and industrial design.

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For over thirty years, bestselling author, screenwriter, and New Yorker cover artist Adrian Tomine’s work has set the standard for contemporary storytelling. He has published several books of comics and illustrations, including “Killing and Dying,” “Shortcomings,” and his new book “Q & A.”

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Having designed costumes for film, television, Broadway, and regional theaters for more than three decades, Paul Tazewell is one of the industry’s most revered designers. He joins to discuss his career, costuming some of the most memorable characters of our time, and his recent award-winning work on the Oscar nominated film, Wicked.

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New York Times bestselling, award-winning author and educator Emily Nagoski is one of the most exceptional minds at work today on the science of sexual connection, intimacy, and arousal. She joins to discuss her remarkable career and new book, “Come Together.”

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Celebrated musician, comedian, writer, and director Carrie Brownstein joins to talk about her remarkable career as the co-founder, guitarist, and vocalist of the legendary punk band Sleater-Kinney, her role in the iconic TV series Portlandia, and her new memoir.

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Tiffany Shlain is a multidisciplinary artist, Emmy-nominated filmmaker, national bestselling author, and the founder of the Webby Awards. Ken Goldberg is the William S. Floyd Distinguished Chair in Engineering at UC Berkeley and an award-winning roboticist, filmmaker, and artist. They join to discuss the life they share together and their many artistic collaborations.

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Seth Godin—renowned author, entrepreneur, and speaker known for launching one of the most popular blogs in the world and writing 22 best-selling books—joins live at Creative Mornings to talk about his new book, This Is Strategy: Make Better Plans.

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On this special episode of Design Matters, we look back at the collective brilliance of artists interviewed in 2024. Best of Design Matters 2024 with Es Devlin, Olafur Eliasson, Carson Ellis, and Nell Irvin Painter is live!

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On this special episode of Design Matters, we look back at the collective brilliance of editors interviewed in 2024. Best of Design Matters 2024 with Stella Bugbee, Scott Dadich, Adam Moss, and David Remnick is live!

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Rick Griffith is a British-West-Indian designer, collagist, writer, educator, letterpress printer, and optimist futurist. He joins live from the HOW Design Conference to discuss his career and MATTER—a design consultancy, letterpress/typography workshop, and retail bookstore he runs with his partner, Debra Johnson.

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Since 2003, Radiohead’s bassist, Colin Greenwood, has taken his camera to the studio and on stage to document the rise of one of the world’s most cherished bands. He joins to discuss his legendary musical career and his beautiful new book, How to Disappear, capturing intimate photographs of his bandmates at work.

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Sarah Lewis is a celebrated art and cultural historian and professor at Harvard University, focusing on the intersection of visual representation, racial justice, and democracy in the United States. She has published multiple bestsellers and joins to discuss her new book, The Unseen Truth.

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Sonya Passi is the Founder & CEO of FreeFrom, a national organization transforming our society’s response to gender-based violence. She joins to discuss her new documentary SURVIVOR MADE and her advocacy work, creating a community where survivors of intimate partner violence can heal, thrive, and drive change together.

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From his breakout role in The Goonies to No Country for Old Men to his recent appearances in the Dune films, acclaimed actor Josh Brolin brings unmistakable gravity and grit to all his films. He joins to talk about his life on and offscreen and his new memoir, From Under the Truck.

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Nicolas Heller—Commercial Director, Documentarian, and “Unofficial Talent Scout of New York” known as @newyorknico—joins to talk about his new book, a raw and authentic city guide of Nick’s can’t-miss eateries, shops, bookstores, and so much more.

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For more than forty years, Ken Burns and his collaborators have created some of the most acclaimed historical documentaries ever made. Sarah Burns and David McMahon join him to discuss his legendary career, new film, and the people and events that molded our history.

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The works of artist Olafur Eliasson explore the relevance of art in the world at large. He joins to discuss his three-decade career creating sculptures, installations, paintings, photographs, and film utilizing natural elements—light, color, water, and movement—to alter viewers’ sensory perceptions.

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Building worlds in motion pictures through graphic props and typography—Annie Atkins joins to discuss her career designing set pieces for films such as The Grand Budapest Hotel and her new book, “Letters from the North Pole.”

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Carson Ellis is the author and illustrator of the bestselling picture books Home and Du Iz Tak?. She joins to talk about her life living on a farm in Oregon and her remarkable career illustrating numerous award-winning books for children.

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With his expertise in enigmas and illusions, David Kwong delights and challenges audiences around the world with his intellectual brand of magic. He joins to discuss his one-man show, The Enigmatist, and his career as a magician, crossword puzzle constructor, and writer.

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Oscar-nominated screenwriter, director, actor, and author Sarah Polley, who began her career as a childhood actress more than three decades ago, joins to talk about her life’s work and newest film, “Women Talking.”

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Steven Heller—legendary writer and author—joins to discuss his new book “Growing Up Underground,” an entertaining and humorous coming-of-age story at the center of New York’s youth culture in the 1960s and 1970s.

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Author of the bestselling book “Queenie”—Candice Carty-Williams joins a very special guest host, Roxane Gay, to talk about her latest novel “People Person” which follows the Pennington family, a cadre of five half-siblings forced together in the wake of a dramatic event.

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Rising to the top of tennis stardom, Chris Evert talks about her groundbreaking career as a legendary athlete and recent creative endeavor in jewelry design.

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Chip Kidd—award-winning designer, musician, author, and all around rock star—joins for his fifth time to talk about his recent projects and so much more.

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Joan Wasser shares her musical journey from a classically trained violinist to a solo singer, songwriter, and rock star known as Joan As Police Woman.

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A love for craftsmanship, design, and baseball brings music legend Jack White and design entrepreneur Ben Jenkins together. In 2016, Jack White became an investor in Ben Jenkins's sporting goods brand, Warstic. Today the company does so much more than manufacture artisan baseball bats.

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As Vice President of Human Interface Design at Apple, Alan Dye has spent much of his career working for a company that has done perhaps more than any other to make design sexy, essential, and highly coveted. He joins to discuss his lustrous creative path working with Ogilvy’s Brand Integration Group, Kate Spade, Apple and the brand new, highly anticipated Apple Vision Pro.

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The author of the award-winning novels “Pachinko” and “Free Food for Millionaires,” Min Jin Lee, discusses her remarkable career and the long journey and intention behind her Korean diaspora novels.

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Over the course of his storied career as a designer and educator, Dr. D’Wayne Edwards has created more than 500 footwear styles for premier entertainers such as Tupac, Dr. Dre, Snoop Dog, and Notorious B.I.G. His designs have been worn in six Olympics and graced all MLB, NFL, and NBA stadiums. He joins to talk about his remarkable career and current role as President of Pensole Lewis College of Business and Design.

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Known for her elaborate paintings composed of rhinestones, acrylic, and enamel, Mickalene Thomas draws on art history and popular culture to create a contemporary vision of female sexuality, beauty, and power.

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Best-selling author, scientist, and trailblazer in autism research, Dr. Temple Grandin’s new book “Visual Thinking” draws on cutting-edge research and her own lived experience to reframe the conversation on neurodiversity and different types of thinkers.

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Best known for her controversial novels featuring extreme situations and characters, A.M. Homes discusses her most recent book, The Unfolding, and her remarkable career authoring thirteen extraordinarily original books.

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James Clear has been writing about habits, decision making, and continuous improvement for over a decade. Author of the #1 New York Times bestseller Atomic Habits, he joins to talk about his career and how we can stop sabotaging our efforts with insurmountable goals.

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Known for her elaborate paintings composed of rhinestones, acrylic, and enamel, Mickalene Thomas draws on art history and popular culture to create a contemporary vision of female sexuality, beauty, and power.

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Monica Khemsurov and Jill Singer are the co-founders of Sight Unseen, an online magazine where designers and tastemakers go to find what’s new and next in design and the visual arts. They join to share insights and secrets unveiled in their new book, “How to Live With Objects: A Guide to More Meaningful Interiors.”

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Hailed the “Father of Modern Branding,” David Aaker has received numerous awards for his contributions to the science of marketing and authored some of the most influential books in business. He joins to talk about his new book, “The Future of Purpose-Driven Branding,” and his legendary career.

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PepsiCo’s award-winning Chief Design Officer, Mauro Porcini, reveals the secret to creating life-changing innovation in his new book, a manifesto for a genuine, authentic, and deeply humanistic approach to design.

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As founder of the Rockwell Group, an award winning, cross-disciplinary architecture and design practice, David Rockwell has designed countless visual and spatial heartstoppers ranging from restaurants, hotels, airport terminals, and hospitals, to festivals, museum exhibitions, and Broadway sets. He joins to talk about his remarkable life and upcoming projects.

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Michael Kimmelman has been the architecture critic of The New York Times since 2011, writing about cities, public space, infrastructure, community development, public housing, equity, and the environment. He joins to talk about his extraordinary career in journalism and his new book, “The Intimate City: Walking New York.”

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Best-selling author, scientist, and trailblazer in autism research, Dr. Temple Grandin’s new book “Visual Thinking” draws on cutting-edge research and her own lived experience to reframe the conversation on neurodiversity and different types of thinkers.

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Steven Heller—legendary writer and author—joins to discuss his new book “Growing Up Underground,” an entertaining and humorous coming-of-age story at the center of New York’s youth culture in the 1960s and 1970s.

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Author of the Sunday Times bestselling Queenie—Candice Carty-Williams joins a very special guest host, Roxane Gay, to talk about her latest novel People Person which follows the Pennington family, a cadre of five half-siblings forced together in the wake of a dramatic event.

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Best known for her controversial novels featuring extreme situations and characters, A.M. Homes discusses her most recent book, The Unfolding, and her remarkable career authoring thirteen extraordinarily original books.

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Thirty years ago, Anita Hill became a household name when she told the world about her experience with sexual harassment in the workplace. Today, she joins to talk about her extraordinary life and new book, “Believing: Our Thirty-Year Journey to End Gender Violence.”

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Reflecting on his remarkable life and career, Nick Offerman shares his insights on acting, marriage and the current state of the world.

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Michael Stipe joins to talk about his remarkable life, photography practice, and career as the lead singer and lyricist for the band R.E.M.

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Rising to the top of tennis stardom, Chris Evert talks about her groundbreaking career as a legendary athlete.

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Jessica Nordell—science and cultural journalist—explores ways of changing pernicious thought patterns to eliminate unconscious bias for a more just world.

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Long a believer in the impossible, Rickie Lee Jones has lived an extraordinary life of song. Here, she reflects on five decades of making music.

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At 8 years old, Catherine Opie realized “that history is made within an image culture”—and here, she discusses her incredible life as a photographer driven by culture.

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Writer, editor, and curator Antwaun Sargent joins to talk about his remarkable career, positioned at the center of the explosion of interest in art made by Black Americans.

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Jason Reynolds—award-winning author and National Ambassador for Young People’s Literature—discusses his prolific writing career that inspires young readers to discover their own stories.

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Chip Kidd—award-winning designer, musician, author, and all around rock star—joins for his fifth time to talk about his recent projects and so much more.

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One of the master artists of our time, Richard Tuttle joins to talk about his 60+ year career that has revolutionized the landscape of temporary art.

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It’s 1988, and Somalis are fleeing the city of Hargeisa. People are trying to get out, trying to save their families and sometimes their things. But in the city’s radio station, staff are packing cassettes and reel to reel recordings into a secret underground bunker. What's on them? A slice of the country’s musical heritage, to remain for years in an underground room—until now. Listen to songs from the episode on this special playlist on Spotify: https://tedtalks.social/3yct0Mj

This story was produced in collaboration with Kerning Cultures, a podcast telling stories from the Middle East and North Africa, and the spaces in between. You can find the podcast wherever you're listening to this.

This is an episode of Far Flung with Saleem Reshamwala, another podcast in the TED Audio Collective. If you want to hear more episodes exploring ideas in Caracas, Barcelona, Puerto Rico, the world of dreams and beyond, follow Far Flung with Saleem Reshamwala wherever you're listening to this.

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Described as a darkly funny meditation on creativity and family, Brad Listi joins to talk about his new book, “Be Brief and Tell Them Everything.”

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Catherine Opie, Adam J. Kurtz, Robyn Kanner, Michael Stipe, and the Indigo Girls reflect on their journeys in this special Pride episode of Design Matters.

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1 New York Times best-selling author Susan Cain shares how a bittersweet, melancholic outlook makes emotional room for beauty, creativity, and love.

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Joan Wasser shares her musical journey from a classically trained violinist to a solo singer, songwriter, and rock star known as Joan As Police Woman.

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Writer and producer Starlee Kine joins LIVE at the 2022 On Air Fest to talk about her remarkable career and hit podcast Mystery Show.

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Writer, comedian, and podcast host, Dylan Marron, shares how hate on the internet fueled his podcast and new book, “Conversations with People Who Hate Me.”

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The effortlessly cool fashion designers Carol Lim and Humberto Leon join to talk about two decades of creative partnership and professional collaborations running their fashion brand, Opening Ceremony.

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Amy Ray and Emily Saliers talk about their extraordinary 30-year creative collaboration as the music duo, Indigo Girls.

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A love for craftsmanship, design, and baseball brings music legend Jack White and design entrepreneur Ben Jenkins together. In 2016, Jack White became an investor in Ben Jenkins's sporting goods brand, Warstic. Today the company does so much more than manufacture artisan baseball bats.

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Costar and co-creator of the groundbreaking TV show Broad City, Abbi Jacobson, joins guest host, Dylan Marron, LIVE on the TED Conference stage.

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Today, I’m sharing an episode from a new podcast I’ve been enjoying, Well-Read Black Girl, from Pushkin Industries. Glory Edim, author and founder of the Well-Read Black Girl community, sits in deep, honest and close conversation with authors like Tarana Burke, Anita Hill, Gabrielle Union, Brit Bennett and more. You’ll also meet literacy advocates and Black booksellers to hear what they’re reading and what it means to be well-read. In this episode, Glory talks with Korean American author and teacher Min Jin Lee. Min talks about what she learned about resistance from bell hooks, how the work she does on and off the page challenges society, and how she’s mentoring a new generation of writers of color. You can hear more of Well-Read Black Girl at https://podcasts.pushkin.fm/wrbgdesign.

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From the profound experience of making “Dead Poets Society” to the “Before” trilogy and his new book, Ethan Hawke discusses a life spent celebrating creativity in its many forms.

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Chef and writer Gabrielle Hamilton talks dueling artistic passions—and how she has found balance and focus in her creative journey.

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Cheryl Strayed battled through remarkable adversity—and the most intense of hikes—to emerge as one of the best American writers working today.

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Bobbi Brown had a revolutionary idea: to create a natural-look makeup line that would make people feel like the best version of themselves. She launched it from her home to overnight success, and today is back with her blockbuster clean DTC brand, Jones Road.

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Nick Cave and Bob Faust discuss the incredible life of creativity, courageousness and community they have built together.

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In her inspiring creative journey, author Jacqueline Woodson went from struggling with words as a child to mastering them today.

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In an illuminating and cerebral discussion, Adam Grant discusses his new book “Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don't Know”—and the value of checking in and checking up on yourself.

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Karen Finley reflects on her legendary performance pieces, censorship and decades of groundbreaking work—and the sheer joy in creating art.

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Soccer star Abby Wambach and author Glennon Doyle discuss their striking first meeting, falling in love as pen pals, addiction and sobriety, and the art of speaking out and speaking up.

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Fiber artist Bisa Butler discusses the AfriCOBRA tradition, the artistic breakthrough that led to her finding her voice, and the process behind her amazing life-size works. 

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From The Last Days of Heath Ledger to Lebron James to the title characters of THREE WOMEN, writer Lisa Taddeo’s words have captured her subjects in extraordinary and enlightening ways. 

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Sarah Kay thrives in poetry on and off the stage—and here, she discusses the immense power of the craft.

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After a lifetime on stage, musician Shirley Manson reflects on the extraordinary ways she sees the world today. 

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Pete Souza has taken photographs for National Geographic, Life Magazine, and other dream outlets, leading to his ultimate subject as Chief Official White House Photographer, Barack Obama.

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Priya Parker discusses the art of gatherings—and how we can truly take the events that punctuate our lives to the next level.

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A master at creating interactive, immersive experiences—Edwin Schlossberg joins to talk about his artwork and the 40th anniversary of his firm, ESI Design.

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Rolling Stones has called Kaki King a genre unto herself—she joins to talk about her career path and even plays a song or two.

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Making information understandable both for himself and others—TED founder and author of numerous books, Richard Saul Wurman, joins to talk about education.

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Artist Deborah Kass joins to talk about her extraordinary career, examining the interactions of politics, pop culture, art history, and identity within a Pop art sensibility. 

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Known for her multi-character, one-person Broadway hit Bridge & Tunnel—Sarah Jones joins to talk about identity, community, social justice, and her relationship with her characters.

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Brian Koppelman joins to talk about his remarkable life, sharing why he became a writer after years of working as a record promoter and producer.

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Roz Chast joins to talk about her remarkable life and how she earned a coveted spot as a cartoonist for The New Yorker.

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Debbie Millman talks with Krista Tippett about her religious orientation, her struggle with depression, and why it's so hard to understand our historical moment.

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“To see your team achieve more than they thought they were capable of, that they will advance the organization further than you even imagined—because they believe, and they are grateful, and they’re inspired—it’s all worth it. All the sacrifices. It always is.” —Simon Sinek

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On this special episode of Design Matters, we take a look back at 2021, revel in the collective brilliance of Catherine Opie, Ethan Hawke, Randa Jarrar, Nick Offerman, and Susan Orlean.

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Illustrator and author duo Wendy MacNaughton and Caroline Paul join to talk about their book, “Lost Cat: A True Story of Love, Desperation, and GPS Technology.”

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From practicing on his first piano—drawn on a piece of paper—to recording albums and launching the podcast and Netflix show “Song Exploder,” Hrishikesh Hirway has lived a marvelous life of music.

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Named “one of the five women changing the world” by Forbes—Amy Webb advises CEOs of the world’s most-admired companies, three-star admirals and generals, and the senior leadership of central banks and intergovernmental organizations, helping them prepare for complex futures.

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Thirty years ago, Anita Hill became a household name and a hero for many women when she told the world about how Supreme Court Justice Clarence Thomas sexually harassed her at work. Today, she joins to talk about her extraordinary life and her new book, “Believing: Our Thirty-Year Journey to End Gender Violence.”

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Founded in 1998, kottke.org is one of the oldest blogs on the web. It’s written and produced by Jason Kottke and covers the essential people, inventions, performances, and ideas that increase the collective adjacent possible of humanity. 

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Michael Stipe joins to talk about his remarkable life, photography practice, and career as the lead singer and lyricist for the band R.E.M.

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Roman Mars is the host and creator of 99% Invisible, a sound-rich, narrative podcast about the unnoticed architecture and design that shape our world.

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A playwright, poet, actor, director, and producer—Keenan Scott II joins to discuss his powerful and captivating Broadway play “Thoughts of a Colored Man.”

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Dr. Dori Tunstall joined OCAD University in 2016 as Dean of Design. She is a design anthropologist, public intellectual, and design advocate who works at the intersections of critical theory, culture, and design. She leads the Cultures-Based Innovation Initiative focused on using old ways of knowing to drive innovation processes that directly benefit communities.

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Ai Weiwei joins to discuss his new memoir “1000 Years of Joys and Sorrows,” depicting a century-long epic tale of China told through a story of his family.

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Rob Walker discusses his interest in death and how our digital records remain online, being shy and how this influenced his decision to become a journalist, writing about the sleeved blanket known as the snuggie, and the wish to brand the idea of "be happy for what you have."

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Ashley C. Ford joins to discuss her memoir “Somebody’s Daughter,” capturing a complex childhood shaped by family secrets, incarceration, and resilience.

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Legendary graphic designer Massimo Vignelli, best-known for creating the iconic New York City subway map, discusses intellectual elegance, education, love, the pitfalls of marketing, and his long career in design.

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Shaped by music and activism, Toshi Reagon reflects on her upbringing and remarkable career writing, playing, singing, and producing music.

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Reflecting on his remarkable life and career, Nick Offerman shares his insights on acting, marriage and the current state of the world.

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Alisa Cohn—named Top Startup Coach in the World—shares her secrets, insights and strategies from nearly 20 years of turning startup founders into world-class CEOs.

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Adam J. Kurtz delves into the human experience and explores the duality of time—everything changes, yet tomorrow isn’t promised—in his new book, “You Are Here (For Now).”

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Amy Koppelman penned A Mouthful of Air, a powerful novel years ahead of its time—and now, 20 years on, she discusses the film version of it she directed that hits theaters this month. 

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Long a believer in the impossible, Rickie Lee Jones has lived an extraordinary life of song. Here, she reflects on five decades of making music.

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What makes you feel most alive? Jonathan Fields is here to help you figure it out—and infuse it into your career in truly transformative ways.

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In our short-term world, Dorie Clark is proof positive that there’s incredible power in long-term strategy—and here she riffs on her new book, “The Long Game.”

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At 8 years old, Catherine Opie realized “that history is made within an image culture”—and here, she discusses her incredible life as a photographer driven by culture.

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After surviving intense abuse as a child, V grew up to pen powerful prose and plays—and today fights for women suffering around the world.

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In his third Design Matters interview, writer Seth Godin riffs on his 20th book—“The Practice”—a milestone text exploring creativity and the sheer power of doing the work and putting it out into the world.

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From the Groundlings and “Chelsea Lately” to fashion illustration, textile work and beyond, Carly Kuhn—aka The Cartorialist—may not have set out to become an artist, but she became a brilliant one.

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After dreaming of becoming a musician, Quiara Alegría Hudes found her true future on the page—and in such works as “My Broken Language” and “In the Heights.” Here, the Pulitzer winner meditates on the many muses that were instrumental in her becoming the creative she is today.

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Forging on past failure, Suneel Gupta began to ask wildly successful people about their less-successful moments—and that laid the foundation for his own career highs, not to mention his new book that helps anyone with a great idea become Backable

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Bobbi Brown had a revolutionary idea: to create a natural-look makeup line that would make people feel like the best version of themselves. She launched it from her home to overnight success, and today is back with her blockbuster clean DTC brand, Jones Road.

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At 10, she announced that money or no money, she would be true to her art—and there was no plan B. And, well, actress Claire Danes stuck to it.

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Fiber artist Bisa Butler discusses the AfriCOBRA tradition, the artistic breakthrough that led to her finding her voice, and the process behind her amazing life-size works.

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Writer, director and actress Miranda July discusses the surreality of releasing a surreal movie in an even more surreal time—and the eternal magic of kissing, cakes and clothes.

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Debbie talks to performance poet Sarah Kay about teaching people to write.

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On this pre-pandemic archive episode, Debbie talks to Priya Parker about meetings and gatherings and why so many of them don’t work.

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On this archive episode cartoonist Lynda Barry talks to Debbie about learning how to draw, and the damaging effects of one’s own opinion.

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On this episode, Jacqueline Novogratz talks about her long career fighting poverty around the world.

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On this episode Claire Danes talks to Debbie about her long career, and what she learned about spies from playing one.

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On this episode, artist Bisa Butler talks to Debbie about her career, and about how making a quilted portrait of her grandmother led to an artistic breakthrough.

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On this episode, Debbie talks to Michael R. Jackson about his latest musical, which is about a gay man trying to write a musical.

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Debbie talks to Fanny Singer about her career writing about art and food, and about cooking in the time of Coronavirus.

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On this episode, Debbie talks with Maurice Cherry about his education and career, and about why the profession of graphic design has been so slow to acknowledge Black designers.

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On this episode Debbie talks to Gabrielle Hamilton about her career as a chef, and as a late-blooming writer.

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Debbie talks to Mauro Porcini, Chief Design Officer at Pepsico, about his childhood and his corporate work.

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Debbie talks with V (formerly known as Eve Ensler) about her abusive father and how feminism has shaped her career.

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Debbie talks to Katherine Gehl and Michael Porter about their program for redesigning our politics.

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Debbie talks with Kathryn Gallager about her young career as an actor/singer/songwriter and about trauma on and off the stage.

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Debbie talks to the design duo of Alex Bec and Will Hudson of It’s Nice That about their close friendship, long collaboration, and about what they’ve learned along the way.

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Debbie talks to Ina Mayhew about her career designing for movies and tv

shows, and about how the virus may change the very nature of her profession.

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Debbie talks to author Cheryl Strayed about her childhood, her career, and about the value of taking a very long hike.

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Debbie talks with Tea Uglow about experimental digital projects that are pushing the boundaries of tech and art.

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Debbie talks with writer Lisa Taddeo about sex and desire.

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Last week Barry Blitt was awarded the Pulitzer Prize in journalism for editorial cartooning. Debbie to him about where his ideas come from.

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Walking is a form of creative trespassing, like tourism for the psyche.

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Debbie talks with artist Marilyn Minter about bringing her skills to the political arena, the ups and downs of her career, and the use of sexual imagery in her work.

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Debbie talks to therapist and author Esther Perel about marriage, polyamory, and adultery.

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David Cay Johnston talks to Debbie about the fun of investigative journalism.

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Debbie talks to Elizabeth about the journey of her extraordinary life and about how death makes us think about what we truly value.

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On this episode Debbie talks to Robert Wong, the executive creative director of Google Creative Lab.

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This episode of Design Matters with Debbie Millman was recorded live at WNYC's Green Space as part of a celebration of 15 years of the podcast.

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A live conversation at WNYC’s Green Space with actor and poet Amber Tamblyn.

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A conversation with Lucy Wainwright Roche about her musical family, her career as a singer-songwriter, and her musical tastes.

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A conversation with Chanel Miller about rape culture.

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A conversation with designer Tosh Hall about how to work with established brands.

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On this episode: a conversation with Chani Nicholas about her life in astrology.

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On this episode Debbie talks to two designers about the history of user-friendly design and the importance of designing for feedback.

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On this episode, Debbie talks to journalist Tatiana Schlossberg about what we can do, as individuals, about climate change.

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A conversation with Jessica Hische about her career, especially after having kids.

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On this episode, a conversation with Lawrence Azerrad about the design of the Concorde.

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On this episode, some coming of age stories Debbie had during 2019.

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On this episode Debbie talks to Thomas Page McBee about masculinity, from the point of view of a trans man.

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On this episode Debbie talks to Tiffany Shlain about how cell phones have taken over our lives.

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On this episode Debbie talks to music impresario and restaurateur Michael Dorf.

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On this episode, a conversation with artist and illustrator Lisa Congdon about getting started creatively.

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On this epsiode, a conversation with poet Saeed Jones about his memoir and about memory.

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On this episode a conversation with Malcolm Gladwell about why it is so easy to be fooled by dishonest people.

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On this episode, a conversation with Steven Heller, about the long and troubled history of the swastika.

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On this episode Debbie talks to designer Chip Kidd and his good friend, graphic novelist Chris Ware.

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On this episode cartoonist Lynda Barry talks about learning how to draw, and the damaging effects of one’s own opinion.

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Writer, artist, and designer Warren Lehrer talks to Debbie about the intersection of images and letters and about the future of books.

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On this episode Elissa Altman talks to Debbie about life, food, love, and the new book she wrote on the difficult relationship she has with her mother.

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Debbie talks to Derren Brown about his risky stage performances as a mentalist and illusionist.

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Debbie talks with writer Lisa Taddeo about sex and desire.

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Debbie talks to illustrator Brian Rea about the Grim Reaper.

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Debbie talks to Simon Doonan about his unlikely career and his formula for creative window displays.

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Debbie talks to portrait painter Amy Sherald about her emotionally evocative work.

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Debbie Millman talks with Pete Souza about his years as the Obama administration official photographer.

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Debbie talks to illustrator Christoph Niemann about his singular career as an artistic superhero.

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Debbie talks to David Lee Roth about his childhood, about his long career and his new skincare business, and about how he has avoided crashing, like so many other rock stars.

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Debbie talks with Austin Kleon, who describes himself as ‘a writer who draws’.

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Debbie talks to writer and activist Zoe Mendelson about the importance of sexual knowledge for women.

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Debbie talks with author and therapist Lori Gottlieb about the importance of emotional awareness.

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Debbie talks with designer Stephen Gates about why it’s important for a brand not to be liked by everybody.

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Debbie talks with Seth, the artist behind the book Palookaville, about why his generation of cartoonists broke away from fantasy.

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Debbie talks with Tea Uglow about experimental digital projects that are pushing the boundaries of tech and art.

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Debbie talks with Elizabeth Gilbert, the author of Eat, Pray, Love about the love of her life and her latest book City of Girls.

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Debbie talks with artist Shantell Martin about her unorthodox career, her collaborations, and about the business of making art.

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Debbie talks to calligrapher and type designer Kris Holmes, the co-creator of the Lucida typeface family.

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Debbie talks to writer Roxane Gay about loneliness, social media, and self-exposure.

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Debbie talks to Cey Adams about how his days writing graffiti led to a major career as a designer for hip hop acts and as an artist.

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Debbie Millman talks to journalist Anand Giridharadas about his career, about a divided America, and about tech monopolies.

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Debbie talks to author and researcher Brené Brown about belonging, courage, and vulnerability.

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Debbie talks with pastry chef and Milk Bar founder Christina Tosi about her career and long apprenticeship.

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Debbie talks with writer Anne Lamott about her life and her long career.

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Debbie talks with designer Jamie Myrold about great problems to solve.

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On this episode of Design Matters with Debbie Millman designer James Victore talks about leading a creative life.

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Debbie talks to designer and writer Ingrid Fetell Lee about joy.

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Debbie talks to Dustin Yellin about his busy life making art, while also running a non-profit cultural center.

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Debbie talks to designer, illustrator, and art director Kate Moross about her early success, her projects, and the importance of over-delivering.

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Debbie talks to Chase Jarvis about his career as a photographer and entrepreneur.

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Debbie talks to Bo Burnham about his film Eighth Grade, and the young star of that movie, Elsie Fisher.

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Debbie talks to Scott Belsky about why creative conflict can lead to good decision making.

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Novelist and memoirist Dani Shapiro talks to Debbie Millman about her surprising genetic inheritance.

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Jocelyn K. Glei talks to Debbie about how the internet can lead to burnout.

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Josh Higgins talks to Debbie Millman about how to design software products that become popular with users.

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Debbie talks to Alice Rawsthorn about the growing status of design.

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Debbie talks to performance poet Sarah Kay about teaching people to write.

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Debbie talks to illustrator Christoph Niemann about his singular career as an artistic superhero.

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Debbie talks to singer-songwriter Shirley Manson about her career, her music, and the long road that got her where she is today.

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Debbie talks with pastry chef and Milk Bar founder Christina Tosi about her career and long apprenticeship.

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Debbie talks with famed photographer Albert Watson about his career and about the importance of preparing conceptually for a shoot.

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Debbie talks to museum director Thelma Golden about the power of curation.

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Debbie talks with writer Anne Lamott about her life and her long career.

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Debbie Millman talks with Pete Sousza about his years as the Obama administration official photographer.

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Debbie talks to designer Paul Sahre about the power of saying no to clients, and about a meeting with Steely Dan that went off the rails.

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Debbie talks to Patricia Cronin about art and politics.

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Debbie talks to Michael Ovitz about his long and controversial career as a Hollywood power broker.

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Debbie talks to Beth Comstock about her career at General Electric and how big companies can innovate.

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Debbie talks to artist Deborah Kass about her long and extraordinary career.

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Debbie talks to Brian Collins about why designers shouldn’t think of themselves as mere problem solvers.

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Debbie talks for Aaron Draplin about setting up his own shop, and about making money as a designer.

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Debbie talks to therapist and author Esther Perel about marriage, polyamory, and adultry.

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Debbie talks to optimist, ethnographer, and author Simon Sinek about the fruits of good leadership.

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Debbie talks to Hamilton director Thomas Kail about his career and about the joys of collaboration.

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Debbie talks to Cindy Gallop about her career in advertising and about the trouble people have communicating about sex.

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Debbie talks to New Yorker celebrated cover artist Barry Blitt about where his ideas come from.

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On this episode, Debbie brings the great English designer, typographer, and art director Neville Brody to the stage.

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“...The thing about your fifties is you have power...all those people you grew up with, they’re in their fifties too and they’ve got power, so they can actually give you some decent work.”

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Debbie talks to author and art director Steven Heller live on stage.

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Debbie talks to the great type designer Matthew Carter live on stage.

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Debbie Millman brings artist Laurie Anderson live on stage to discuss her career, art, life, and politics.

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Debbie talks to portrait painter Amy Sherald about her emotionally evocative work.

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On this episode Debbie talks to Lewis Lapham about his long career in journalism and the media landscape today.

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Debbie talks to writer Carmen Maria Machado about her writing, life, career, and the importance of ego.

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Debbie talks to Aminatou Sow about her podcast and her career in tech.

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Debbie talks to muscian, playwright, and activist Erin McKeown about the ups and downs in her career, and about writing a musical for the first time.

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Debbie talks to author and conflict resolution mediator Priya Parker about meetings and gatherings and why so many of them don’t work.

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Debbie talks to performance artist and dancer Jack Ferver about his career in dance theater and the politics in his work.

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Debbie Millman talks with author and editor Pamela Paul about books and book reviewing.

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Debbie Millman talks to journalist Anand Giridharadas about his career, about a divided America, and about tech monopolies.

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Debbie talks to astrophysicist David Spergel about the origins of the universe.

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Debbie talks to Edel Rodriguez about his career and his celebrated illustrations of Donald Trump.

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On this episode, Debbie talks to Simon Doonan about his unlikely career and his formula for creative window displays.

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Debbie talks to Richard Haines about his late blooming career as an illustrator.

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On this episode Debbie talks to Nick Law about working through failure.

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On this episode, Debbie talks with set designer David Korins about his impressive career on Broadway, his design process, and his latest projects.

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On this episode, Debbie talks to Sukey Novogratz about meditation and recovery from trauma.

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On this episode, Debbie talks to interactive designer Edwin Schlossberg about his career and about the time he asked a Vatican archivist why they had cataloged so little of their historical treasures.

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On this episode, Debbie talks to experimental psychologist and author Steven Pinker about measuring human happiness..

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On this episode, Debbie talks to musician Kaki King about performing and composing.

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On this episode, Debbie talks to David Cay Johnston about the fun of investigative journalism.

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Debbie looks back at some of her favorite highlights of 2017 including Thomas Kail, Elizabeth Alexander, Mike Mills, Sarah Jones, Anil Dash, and Brian Koppelman.

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Debbie talks to New Yorker celebrated cover artist Barry Blitt about where his ideas come from.

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Debbie talks to TED founder Richard Saul Wurman about learning and education.

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Debbie talks to performance artist Marina Abramović about her career, her art, and her incredible body of work.

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Debbie talks to podcast host, comic, and comedy writer Catie Lazarus about comedy, and about the grey area of comedians telling off-color jokes.

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Debbie talks to four time New York Times best selling author Tim Ferriss about depression, suicide, and major changes in his life.

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Debbie talks to artist and filmmaker Mike Mills about his career and his formative influences.

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Debbie talks to artist Deborah Kass about her long and extraordinary career.

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Debbie Millman talks to writer Kenny Fries about living with, and writing about disability.

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Debbie talks to novelist Emma Donoghue about gender, race, and the value of fiction.

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Debbie talks to therapist and author Esther Perel about marriage, polyamory, and adultry.

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Debbie talks to author and researcher Brené Brown about belonging, courage, and vulnerability.

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Debbie talks to director Thomas Kail about his career and about the joys of collaboration.

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Debbie talks to James Victore about his apprenticeship in graphic design, about the role of opinion in his work, and about his suspicions of surface beauty and polish.

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Debbie Millman talks to Marian Bantjes about her daring typography and her highly ornamental design.

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Debbie talked to Massimo Vignelli about his favorite typeface, his fight against vulgarity and meaningless design, and what he means by forceful design.

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Debbie talked to Massimo Vignelli about his favorite typeface, his fight against vulgarity and meaningless design, and what he means by forceful design.

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Debbie talks to Billions show runner Brian Koppelman about why he became a writer after years as a record promoter and producer.

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Debbie talks to poet Eileen Myles about poetry, fame, and politics.

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Debbie talks to Cindy Gallop about her career in advertising and about the trouble people have communicating about sex. “People therefore find it bizarrely difficult to talk about sex with the people they’re having it with while they are actually having it.”

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Debbie Millman talks to Adam J. Kurtz about designing for psychological health.

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Debbie talks to Gail Bichler about magazine design and the role of the magazine cover in the digital age.

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Debbie talks to Alison Bechdel about how identifying herself as a lesbian when she was young led her into a career as a cartoonist.

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Debbie talks with artist and writer Lisa Congdon about how she sometimes felt like an imposter.

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Debbie talks to Anil Dash about politics, technology, and culture.

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Debbie talks to lynda.com’s Lynda Weinman about how the internet is challenging the traditional classroom model.

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Debbie talks to writer Caroline Paul about her death-defying adventures, and how girls must learn the difference between fear and exhilaration.

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Debbie Millman talks to Chris Anderson about how the TED conference has helped changed the way we learn.

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Debbie talks to Alain de Botton about love and sex.

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Debbie talks to designer Bonnie Siegler about her career and about the conflict between designers and their clients. "The clients aren’t the problem, the clients aren’t jerks, they’re not assholes, it’s not that they have bad taste, or anything like that. Sometimes they just have no idea how to interact with professional creative people."

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Debbie talks to composer Nico Muhly about his music and about the musicians who interpret it. "I always feel like they appreciate something that’s detailed on the page to indicate that I know what I’m talking about, but with room for them to continue the conversation when I’m dead."

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On this podcast Debbie talks to Krista Tippet about her religious orientation, her struggle with depression, and about why it’s so hard to understand our historical moment.

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On this podcast Debbie talks to Amanda Palmer about her wild and wandering path to the rock stage, and about how behind her artistic ambition is the drive to feel real.

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On this podcast Debbie talks to Steven Heller about his attitude when he was a young designer.

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Debbie talks to Brian Collins about why designers shouldn’t think of themselves as mere problem solvers.

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DJ Stout is a sixth generation Texan, award-winning designer, and partner at Pentagram.

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On this podcast Debbie talks to playwright Sarah Jones about her relationship with her characters.

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Debbie talks to poet Elizabeth Alexander about the journey of her extraordinary life and how death makes us think about what we truly value.

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On this episode Debbie talks to Jonathan Adler about how his pottery defined his aesthetic.

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Debbie talks to Connie Birdsall about designing some of the most successful brands of our time and what to do when a meeting with clients is not going well.

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On this podcast Debbie talks to Rochelle Udell about her very creative professional life.

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On this podcast Debbie talks to Mike Rigby about his international career in design and branding and how to stay creatively engaged.

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Debbie talks to Su Matthews Hale about her efforts to bring more attention to female designers

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On this episode Debbie talks to artist + writer Sam Winston about his life-long fascination with type.

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On this podcast Debbie talks to Nicholas Blechman about the importance of political satire.

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Debbie talks to Seth Godin about how to live in our difficult political moment.

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Debbie Millman talks to Anil Dash about politics, technology and culture.

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Debbie talks to Brian Koppelman about why he became a writer after years as a record promoter and producer.

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Debbie highlights some of her favorite conversations of 2016, including Alison Bechdel, Alain de Botton, Lisa Congdon, Chris Anderson, Krista Tippet, Eileen Myles, and Amanda Palmer.

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Debbie talks to Adam J. Kurtz about designing for psychological health. “I’m not going to change your life, I’m just going to share with you the tools that are helping me.”

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Debbie talks to New York Times Magazine design director Gail Bichler about magazine design and the role of the magazine cover in the digital age.

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Debbie talks to Cindy Gallop about her career in advertising and about the trouble people have communicating about sex.

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Debbie talks to writer Tim Ferriss about the strategies he has used to change his life.

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Debbie talks to poet Eileen Myles about poetry, fame, and politics.

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Debbie talks to designer Keira Alexandra about what to do when you need extras for a video shoot.

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Debbie talks to architect Pierluigi Serraino about some of the things creative people have in common.

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Debbie talks to Design*Sponge founder Grace Bonney about her new book on women entrepreneurs and makers and about the necessity and difficulty of change.

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Debbie talks to Stack Magazines founder Steven Watson about the passion behind the independent magazines that he loves.

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Debbie talks to designer Bonnie Siegler about her career and about the conflict between designers and their clients.

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Debbie talks to designer, writer, and researcher Lana Z. Porter about branding for millennials + more.

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Debbie talks to information designer Giorgia Lupi about data visualization and the data of our personal lives.

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Debbie talks to Joe Hollier about an invention of his that is designed to bring back boredom in the era of the smartphone.

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Debbie talks to artist and designer Kelli Anderson about her new pop-up book, This Book is a Planetarium, and about her collaboration with They Might Be Giants.

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Debbie talks to type designer Tobias Frere-Jones about his career and why typefaces are like the air we breathe.

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Debbie talks to writer and illustrator Maira Kalman about how ordinary objects inspire her art, and about her collaborations with the likes of Mark Morris and Isaac Mizrahi.

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Debbie talks to psychology writer Maria Konnikova about her career and her fascination with con artists. She explains why so many people fall prey to confidence games.

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Debbie talks to editor and digital novelist Eli Horowitz about the virtues of collaboration + more

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Debbie talks to Roz Chast about how she earned a coveted spot as a cartoonist for The New Yorker magazine, and how her art is informed by the brutal reality of life.

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Debbie talks to Timothy Goodman about how, after barely getting through high school, he went on to a very visible career that he is still in the process of defining.

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On this episode, Debbie talks to Tiffany Shlain about her films, about starting the Webby Awards, and about the growing presence of technology in our lives.

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Debbie talks to photographer Brandon Stanton about his ongoing project “Humans of New York” and why total strangers open up to him.

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Debbie talks to author Gretchen Rubin about happiness and the power of habit.

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Debbie talks to Alain de Botton about  love and sex.

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Debbie talks to Chris Anderson about how the TED conference has helped changed the way we learn.

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Debbie talks to Isaac Mizrahi about why he loves fashion and why he does so many things outside of fashion.

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Debbie talks to Julia about cooking and writing, and how to peel a hard-boiled egg.

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Debbie talks to Ben Schott about the importance of failing early in one’s career, about how to take a politician’s picture, and about writing and designing his own books.

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On this episode Debbie talks with artist and writer Lisa Congdon about how she sometimes felt like an imposter.

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On their annual podcast Debbie talks to graphic design guru Steve about how to deliver social critiques with a punch.

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Debbie talks to Alicon Bechdel about how identifying herself as a lesbian when she was young lead her into a career as a cartoonist.

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Debbie talks to composer Nico Muhly about his music and about the musicians who interpret it.

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Debbie Millman talks to Target’s Chief Creative Officer Todd Waterbury about how technology is changing consumption and about how smart phones have raised our expectations for how companies should interact with us.

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Debbie talks to writer Caroline Paul about her death-defying adventures, and how girls must learn the difference between fear and exhilaration.

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Debbie talks to Amanda about her wild and wandering path to the rock stage, and about how behind her artistic ambitions is the drive to feel real.

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Debbie talks with radio host Krista Tippett about her religious orientation, her struggle with depression, and about why it’s so hard to understand our historical moment.

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Debbie talks to branding designers Greg Hahn and Ryan Moore about their process when working with clients such as Netflix and MoMA.

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Debbie Millman talks with writer Kate Bolick about society’s historically skeptical view of a single woman.

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Debbie talks to Mimi Valdés about her unstoppable career, from magazine editor to her creative partnership with the pop singer Pharrell Williams.

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Debbie talks to Ayse Birsel about her expansive career as an industrial designer and how she uses art and design to reconstruct her personal and professional life around a core idea.

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Debbie talks to Eric Zimmer about the twists and turns in his surprising career as a tech entrepreneur, and abot some of the things he’s learned along the way.

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Debbie talks to artist Tucker Nichols about his art, and the quality of the art he loves.

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On this episode Debbie talks to Doung Powell about how designers can use their skills beyond the confines of the profession.

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Debbie talks to Scott Clemons about one of the great printers and designers of all time.

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Debbie Millman talks to author Simon Sinek about the fruits of good leadership.

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Debbie talks with Robin Petravic and Catherine Bailey about running Heath Ceramics.

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Debbie talks to Design Observer co-founder Michael Bierut about why he thinks graphic design is so cool.

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Author and entrepreneur Jonathan Fields on his previous careers as a lawyer and personal trainer, and on The Good Life. "The Good Life is not a place at which you arrive, it’s a lens through which you see and create."

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Debbie talks to designer Clement Mok about the early days of Apple computer, the heady days of the software bubble, and the joys of working for Steve Jobs.

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Debbie talks to legendary designer Bob Gill about coming up in the profession in the 1950s, about working with the Beatles, and the problem with many designers today.

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Michael Donovan + Nancye Green on their partnership in marriage and design.

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The designer of the 9/11 memorial—Michael Arad— on the process of design.

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Debbie talks to book designer Chip Kidd about why his TED talk turned into the most terrifying 19 minutes of his life, and about his book of graphic design for children.

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Debbie talks to illustrator and author Marion Deuchars about the expressiveness of hand-lettering, about how drawing is an intense form of looking, and the limited value of technology in teaching art to children.

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Debbie talks to Louise Fili about designing book covers, designing for restaurants, about why she prefers working for small businesses, and about the importance of sketching.

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Debbie talks to Peter Mendelsund about what makes a great book cover, rebranding the classics, and about his fears of the iPad and Kindle.

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Debbie talks to illustrator Wendy MacNaughton and author Caroline Paul about their unusually intimate collaboration on a book.

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Debbie talks to Brian Rea about the value of being rejected, about art directing for the New York Times, and about his development as an illustrator.

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Debbie talks to Rob Walker about the Sunggie and his fantasy branding project.

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Debbie talks to Marian Bantjes about her daring typography and her highly ornamental designs.

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Debbie talks to Kelli Anderson about what design can tell us about the world.

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Debbie talks to SwissMiss — aka Tina Roth Eisenberg — discusses her blog, CreativeMornings, and the beauty found in ordinary things.

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Debbie Millman and James Victore discusses his book, putting his opinion in the work and the difference between God-jobs and money jobs.

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Debbie talks to artist and illustrator Oliver Jeffers, who explains how illustrating and writing children’s books has changed his fine art painting.

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Branding expert Carolina Rogoll talks about how to update a brand and why sabbaticals are a good idea.

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Recorded live at "What Design Sounds Like," Debbie talks to Audrey Arbeeny about audio branding.

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Debbie Millman talks to Virginia Postrel about the power of glamorous objects and glamorous people.

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Debbie Millman talks to Elle Luna about why she walked away from great design jobs with IDEO, Uber, and Mailbox.

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Debbie Millman talks to Ron Burrage about his design career, his performance career, and about how to design fearlessly.

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Julia Turshen about cooking and writing (and how to successfully peel a hard boiled egg).

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Steven Heller about his new book Graphic Style Lab.

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie talks to lynda.com’s Lynda Weinman about how the internet is challenging the traditional classroom model.

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On this episode of Design Matters Debbie Millman talks to Morley about her songs of social change.

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On this episode Debbie Millman talks to Herman Miller’s Ben Watson about how design affects people who never even think about design.

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman speaks with Louise Sandhaus about her macrobiotic past, her new book, and her struggles to get it published.

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On this week’s episode Debbie Millman talks to Jessica Walsh and Timothy Goodman about their unusual collaboration

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To launch the 10th season of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Isaac Mizrahi about why he loves fashion and why he does so many things outside of fashion.

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to editor, curator, and design fairy godmother Chee Pearlman about editing a design magazine and designing conferences.

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Liz Danzico about writing and designing, life in NYC, and why it’s so important to keep learning (and re-learning).

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Justin Ahrens about designing for social change and his book.

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On this episode of Design Matters with Debbie Millman, Debbie talks with designer Ji Lee about why he hates most advertising, but why he loves the idea of advertising on Facebook (where he works).

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to writer and curator Emily Spivack about how our clothes are more than fabric and thread.

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On this episode of Design Matters Debbie Millman talks to Moira Cullen—design strategist, writer and educator—about her innovative design work for some of the world’s leading brands.

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On this episode of Design Matters Debbie Millman talks to Tina and Ryan Essmaker, designers, photographers, creative directors and cofounders of The Great Discontent

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Cooper Hewitt director Caroline Baumann about her career in museums and why the interest in design has surged in recent years.

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Fritz Karch on being a stylist for Martha Stewart, owning an antique shop, and what it means to be a collector.

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Ben Schott about the importance of failing early in one’s career, about how to take a politician’s picture, and about writing and designing his own books.

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to Petter Ringbom about his years at the creative agency Flat, and how he moved away from graphic design into filmmaking.

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In this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman talks to legendary designer Tom Geismar about how the practice of design has changed since the 1950s.

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Noah Brier on brands, design and content in the age of social media.

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On this episode of Design Matters with Debbie Millman, Debbie talks to writer Dani Shapiro about being raised an Orthodox Jew, about being vulnerable in her work, and about writing her way out of an existential crisis.

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On this episode of Design Matters with Debbie Millman, Debbie talks to Brian Singer, Communication Design team leader at Facebook,.

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Steven Heller talks about graphic design before it was called graphic design, and about whether design magazines have a future in print.

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Artist Rachel Sussman discusses her new book and explains what it was like to be abandoned without supplies — or a phone — in Greenland.  

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Scott Lerman talks about his new step-by-step book about brand strategy and about how consumer research can limit innovative thinking.

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Maria Giudice talks with Debbie Milliman about the early days of design on the internet, and what it's like to work for Facebook.

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Debbie talks to Michael Donovan + Nancye Green about their life and work partnership and how good business is good design.

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Design Director of More Magazine, Debra Bishop discusses her career designing for magazines, including her years working for Martha Stewart, and the tension between designers and editors.

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Joe Marianek talks about decisions that shaped his career and about the process of getting hired at Apple.

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Jonathan Harris on his web and database art projects, his relationship to time and memory, and the sexuality of the internet.

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VSA's Dana Arnett on getting kicked out of design school and making the transition from designer to CEO.

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Debbie Millman talks to Irma Boom about the art and craft of her celebrated book designs.

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Debbie Millman talks to Spark Camp founders Amanda Michel + Amy Webb about redesigning the traditional conference and its lasting effect on participants.

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Legendary designer Bob Gill talks about design in the 1950s, working with the Beatles and the problem with so many designers today.

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On this episode of Design Matters with Debbie Millman, Debbie talks to Matteo Bologna about his early years in Italy, his addiction to typography and the question of self-confidence.

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Lead designer for CocaCola's Vitaminwater and Powerade Alex Center talks about his love of brands.

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Susan S. Szenasy is editor-in-chief of METROPOLIS, the award-winning New York City-based magazine of architecture and design.

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Terry Teachout discusses the early days of blogging, the poetics of theater and what it's like to be a drama critic for The Wall Street Journal.

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Firebelly Design founder Dawn Hancock discusses what it means to be a socially conscious designer.

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OCD Designers Jennifer Kinon + Bobby Martin talk about their design philosophy — and their general willingness to do the unexpected.

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Typographer Oded Ezer talks about the idea of a universal language — and how his limitations as a musican and poet led to his extraordinary typography.

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Debbie Millman talks to interior designer Sheila Bridges about being one of the only prominent African Americans in her industry, about losing her hair and having Bill Clinton as a client.

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Legendary book designer Chip Kidd on why his TED talk was the 19 most frightening minutes of his life.

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Frog design co-founder Hartmut Esslinger talks about working for Steve Jobs in the early days of Apple.

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Brenda Danilowitz, Chief Curator at the Josef and Anni Albers Foundation and Potion principal Philip Tiongson discuss the new Interaction of Color app.

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Jean-Louis Cohen reveals a Le Corbusier who was not only a great architect, but also a savvy promoter of his own ideas and work.

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Michael Rock about self-hatred in design, the benefits of being an outsider, and his new book.

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Designer, educator and author Maggie Macnab talks about what designers can learn from nature — and what they can give back.

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Jessica Walsh once sold moss-covered rocks to her elementary school classmates. Today, she's Stefan Sagmeister's partner in Sagmeister + Walsh.

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Mailchimp CEO Ben Chestnut and User Expereince Lead Aaron Walter talk how they got where they are — and where Freddie the monkey came from.

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Wendy MacNaughton and Caroline Paul on a journey from advertising to Rwanda to illustration, and from Stanford to firefighter to author.

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Emily Oberman's three acts — from Tibor Kalman at M&Co, to Number Seventeen with Bonnie Siegler, to becoming a partner at Pentagram.

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Jennifer Sterling on her process, how money should be designed, and the way teaching has influenced her career.

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Digital strategist and author Amy Webb on how she gamed online dating to find her husband.

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On this episode of Design Matters, Debbie Millman interviews Cliff Sloan about everything marketing.

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Debbie Millman talks to Sara Blake about collaborating with her sister, creating portraits of 100 girls and illustrating NBA players.

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Steven Heller discusses his new ebook, Design Cult, and reflects on what designers have in common with Harvey Weinstein.

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Clement Mok on the early days of Apple computer, the joys of working for Steve Jobs and starting his successful businesses.

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Roberto de Vicq de Cumptich discusses growing up in Brazi, the role of art versus design, and why it is so important to be witty.

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Sophie Blackall discusses learning to draw, painting vs. illustration and her favorite postings from Craigslist.

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Jen Bilik on being a certified entrepreneurial badass: she's the founder of the company Knock Knock.

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Marion Deuchars on the expressiveness of hand lettering, how drawing is an intensive form of looking, and the need to be messy when creating art.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Jason Kottke talks about blogging for over fourteen years and what it means to be "old" online.

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Christopher Simmons discusses his lastest book, Just Design: Socially Conscious Design for Critical Causes, and reflects on why designers should be continually redefining their profession.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Jake Barton discusses wanting to be a doctor, how he became a media designer and how to get people to interact.

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Louise Fili discusses the importance of sketching, her obsession with typography and why she prefers working with small organizations.

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Rafael Esquer discusses growing up on a farm, working with the city and what it takes to make it in the design business.

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Bosnian-born designer and illustrator Mirko Ilic discusses his early career behind the iron curtain, his prolific drawing and his current career in New York.

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Debbie Millman talks to her colleague Austin McGhie, who explains why brand could be a four letter word.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Aaron Draplin talks about being comfortable in his own skin, midwestern pragmatism and why Oregon beats the shit out of SoCal.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Scott Stowell discusses using color separation in elementary school, interning at M&Co and the importance of language in design.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Chris Ware discusses his influences – including sending a Valentine to Charlie Brown – and explains why empathy figures so heavily into his work.

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Steven Heller discusses the big ideas that have changed graphic design – including the UPC code, teen magazines and the pointed finger.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Ken Carbone discusses meeting his design heros, his celebrated sketchbooks and journals and what he really thinks about his relationship with his corporate clients.

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Etsy creative director Randy J. Hunt discusses working for Milton Glaser, his record label and the challenges of managing a brand as diverse as Etsy.

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Khoi Vinh on his role as design director at NYTimes.com, spending spring break in college setting type and the online relationship between publisher and consumer.

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Radio producer Roman Mars discusses the connection between ’zines and radio, why he ditched science and the reason he named his show “99% Invisible”.

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John Flansburgh on being the son of a modernist architect, designing album covers for They Might Be Giants and of course, making music.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Maria Popova discusses growing up in Bulgaria, the evolution of Brainpicker and inventing the curator’s code.

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Jen Bekman discusses managing a BBS in the early days of the internet, her first email exchange and the importance of everyone owning art.

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Wolff Olins CEO Karl Heiselman discusses the controversial London 2012 logo, designing the culture of his company and the relationship between branding and popularity.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, James Biber discusses growing up in a house with a womb chair, visual illiteracy and designing the Museum of Sex.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Cheryl Heller discusses  innovation, her new MFA program at SVA and why the word ‘brand’ is like leather pants.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Erik Spiekermann discusses why numbers are harder to design than letters, finding his print shop burned to the ground and why he's trying to get out of work.

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Martin Venezky discusses his journey to becoming one of the design innovators of our time.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Peter Mendelsund discusses how he became a book designer and his fear of the Kindle and iPad.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Andrew Gibbs discusses his love of packaging, the role brands play in people's lives and his blog, The Dieline.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Brian Rea discusses the value of being rejected, art directing for The New York Times and his fascination with UFO’s.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, John Hockenberry discusses The Takeaway —his morning news show on NPR — Steve Jobs and journalism in the age of social-media. 

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Jake and Pum Lefebure of Design Army discuss how they met, the importance of sketching and keeping their firm small.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Margaret Roach discusses her career with Martha Stewart and her love of gardening.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Linda Tischler discusses failing her New Year’s resolutions, why the word “design” turns off business professionals and her new book.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Dori Tunstall discusses branding through the lens of a Design Anthropologist.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Alex Bogusky and John Bielenberg discuss branding, global warming and impact entrepreneurs.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Jessica Hische discusses her attachment to the internet, the differences between being a letterer and a type designer and working for Louise Fili.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Michael Arad, discusses the World Trade Center Memorial.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Angus Hyland discusses the peace sign, Deutsche Bank, and the play button.

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Alissa Walker discusses her experience in advertising, her love affair with LA and of course, gelato.

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Jennifer Morla talks about leaving New York for San Francisco, her collaboration with Andy Warhol and the qualities of effective design.

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After a 40-year career with Herman Miller, Steve Frykholm discusses life inside this iconic, National Design Award-winning furniture company.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Grace Bonney discusses being a Phish follower, shaking off the cute and the Design*Sponge scholarship program.

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Heather Armstrong on reconciling with her family after writing about them on her blog, taking photos of her dog Chuck and her broken Maytag washing machine.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Dominique Browning discusses her tenure as Editor in Chief at House & Garden, her recent book, Slow Love, and the effects of love on a stuffed animal.

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Jonathan Ford discusses his eighteen job interviews before being hired by Michael Peters, his belief that a good idea cannot come from a computer and the importance of doing work that is truthful.

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In this episode of Design Matters, Eddie Opara discusses being educated by Jesuits, creating the Brooklyn Museum brand at 2x4 and working at Pentagram.

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Philadelphia-based designer Alina Wheeler discusses branding, strategic imagination and her new book, Brand Atlas,co-authored with Joel Katz.

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In this podcast with Debbie Millman, Gail Anderson discusses making little magazines as a child, working at Rolling Stone for fifteen years and what the next chapter in her life holds.

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Kate Betts discusses Michelle Obama as a style icon and addresses the inevitable comparisons (and differences) between our current First Lady and the legendary Jackie Kennedy.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Rob Walker discusses how our digital records remain online even after we die, and his desire to brand the idea of being “happy for what you have”.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, James Victore discusses his book, putting his opinion in the work and the difference between God-jobs and money jobs.

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Alexandra Lange and Jane Thompson discuss the power of imagination, Marimekko, Sir Lady Jane and Benjamin Thompson.

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Steven Heller talks to Debbie Millman about blogging from the bathroom, working with Patti Smith and Paul Rand's tombstone.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Alexander Isley discusses his Mom, learning presentation skills from Tibor Kalman and believing that people are inherently good.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Kate Bingaman-Burt discusses Obsessive Consumption, the designer as reporter and her commitment to making something everyday.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Marian Bantjes discusses her new book, coded text and causing pain to type purists.

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In this interview with Debbie Millman, Ralph Caplan discusses the difference between making things right and making things nice, the Civil Rights movement and the responsibility of the designer.

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On this episode of Design Matters, SwissMiss — aka Tina Roth Eisenberg — discusses her blog, crowd sourcing and the beauty found in ordinary things.

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In this podcast with Debbie Millman, Bill Moggridge discusses the future of the laptop, human-centered design and the future of the Cooper-Hewitt National Design Museum.

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In this audio interview with Debbie Millman, Eric Baker discusses working with Gordon Parks, living in New York City and working for himself.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Stephen Doyle discusses working for Tibor Kalman, renting his soul to the devil and working with his hands.

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Vignelli Celebration: Season premiere of Design Matters with Debbie Millman, a podcast interview with Massimo Vignelli.

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Stefan Sagmeister discusses a year away from his New York-based design practice, spending personal time in Bali and his new documentary film, Happiness.

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In this podcast interview with Debbie Millman, Tim Brown reviews his career at IDEO, explores the impact of design processes (drawing and storytelling) and discusses his new book, Change By Design.

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Editorial director of Design Observer William Drenttel and Change Observer editor Julie Lasky discuss the state of online media and reflect on the end of print.