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This CHAOSS Community podcast features members who spent considerable time and effort to understand open source community health and how we can measure it through metrics, analytics, and software. We invite guests to this podcast to talk about how they use open source community health metrics and software in their own open source communities, companies, or foundations. This podcast fills the gap with open source community metric definitions and software on one side and their use on the other side.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Welcome back to Part Two to a conversation we had with our amazing guest, Hedan Zeng, who’s the Director of Product Management at Common Room. In Part One, we spoke to Hedan about the development of Common Room, the history of Hedan’s personal journey in community, and what Common Room’s real philosophies around community health have been. Today, we brought her back so we can talk more about our metrics. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:03:22] Hedan does a quick recap of what Common Room the platform does. [00:04:19] In the last episode, Hedan mentioned area they look at the health of the community, and one of them was around engagement and metrics around engagement, and she tells us things she has found valuable for her customers to look at. [00:10:24] Venia brings up grapevine or unstructured community spaces, and she wonders how Hedan tackles these different sentiment developments in the actual metrics path and data flow for her system. [00:12:48] Sophia wants to know if there are different ways that Hedan addresses the same kind of questions in terms of guiding her customers and understanding the nuances between platform sources and sentiments. [00:14:52] We find out how Common Room addresses the nuance between these personas that while they might have some overlap, tend to have different orientations. [00:16:47] Does Hedan think that there’s some explicit differences between how Common Room would tackle to completely different community avatars? [00:19:07] Hedan tells us about some specific metrics to understand the different pieces that she’s been seeing. [00:21:41] Venia brings up community interaction and Hedan talks more about how she’s generating that 3X engagement factor. [00:23:38] Sophia wonders if Common Room can identify whether or not folks are at risk of burnouts, and Hedan tells us about how Common Room does a surface sentiment at a member level. [00:28:38] We find out how Hedan’s user experience makes decisions about the metrics and the way she visualizes this data in her platform. [00:32:22] We learn the process Common Room makes the users who are interacting and visualizing the data they go through. [00:35:10] Looking at the membership statistics around various different platforms, Sophia wonders if this could be an effective way to gauge an open source project’s usage and then knowing that, we find out if it’s enough or if anything is missing to make a better assessment of the overall user community size. [00:36:47] Find out where you can follow Hedan and Common Room online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:38:00] Hedan’s pick is being excited for football season and fantasy football season to commence. [00:38:34] Sophia’s pick is to remember to breathe, take breaks, and do puzzles. [00:39:44] Venia’s pick is Richard Millington and a webinar he did called, The Gold Standard of Community Data. Panelists: Venia Logan Georg Link Sophia Vargas Guest: Hedan Zeng Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Venia Logan Twitter (https://twitter.com/SamanthaVenia) Sophia Vargas Twitter (https://twitter.com/Sophia_IV) Hedan Zeng Twitter (https://twitter.com/Hedankers) Hedan Zeng LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/hedanzeng) Common Room (https://www.commonroom.io/) Common Room Community (https://www.commonroom.io/uncommon/) Richard Millington Twitter (https://twitter.com/RichMillington?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) The Gold Standard of Community Data with Richard Millington (vimeo) (https://vimeo.com/746831935) Special Guest: Hedan Zeng.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. We are super excited to have joining us as our guest, Hedan Zeng, Director of Product Management at Common Room, the intelligent community growth platform for today’s fastest-growing companies. Today, we’ll learn all about Common Room and how they think about metrics. We’ll also find out about the metrics they use, and Common Room’s theory and approach to design, from data to user interface. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:38] Hedan tells us all about Common Room. [00:04:11] Hedan dives into how they think about metrics at the Common Room, and she explains each of the metrics they use such as membership, community responsiveness, and sentiment. [00:08:26] We find out what Hedan’s role is at Common Room and the steps that led her to forming where she is today, which includes her experience working at Medallia. [00:15:02] Sophia wonders if Hedan is seeing any behaviors that surprised her or she wasn’t expecting to see from the application of the software. [00:20:32] Find out if Common Room have words that they’ve put to that different philosophy of measurement. [00:23:12] We learn about the process Hedan has for identifying which of these different usernames on different platforms actually belong to the same person. [00:26:03] Hedan explains how she navigates the difference between I need to present in my community and engage in the social contract of listening to people versus this is a thing I could automate and build a workflow for this. [00:28:42] We hear how Hedan is helping customers navigate through varying privacy/data sharing policies, and she shares advice for open source projects and communities. [00:31:45] Find out where you can follow Hedan online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:32:27] Georg’s pick is being amazed with the after school programs. [00:33:32] Venia’s pick is the power of reframing live events for good connection. [00:35:36] Hedan’s pick is Beat Saber. [00:36:21] Sophia’s pick is a packable sun hat. Panelists: Venia Logan Georg Link Sophia Vargas Guest: Hedan Zeng Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Venia Logan Twitter (https://twitter.com/SamanthaVenia) Sophia Vargas Twitter (https://twitter.com/Sophia_IV) Hedan Zeng Twitter (https://twitter.com/Hedankers) Hedan Zeng LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/hedanzeng) Common Room (https://www.commonroom.io/) Common Room Community (https://www.commonroom.io/uncommon/) Medallia (https://www.medallia.com/) Adam Grant Website (https://adamgrant.net/) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 30: Databases, Privacy, and Licenses with Matt Yonkovit (https://podcast.chaoss.community/30) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 42: Hidden Infrastructure: The Foundations of Open Source with Josh Simmons (https://podcast.chaoss.community/42) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 45: Fireside Chat: Metrics Strategy with Daniel, Sean, and Venia (https://podcast.chaoss.community/45) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 57: The Ins and Outs of Large Scale Research with Hilary Carter (https://podcast.chaoss.community/57) Beat Saber (https://www.oculus.com/experiences/quest/2448060205267927/) Baggu Hat (https://baggu.com/collections/hats-and-scrunchies?cmp_id=16001603664&adg_id=135407259809&kwd=packable%20sun%20hat%20baggu&device=c&gclid=CjwKCAjwx7GYBhB7EiwA0d8oewQBj7FeD2HJltwWyU4tHvB0Zc56ohvopHgxlXQCQWjl3JsIWDApCxoCGgkQAvD_BwE) Special Guest: Hedan Zeng.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are excited to be joined by two guests, Iyimide Adegunloye (Mide) and Precious Abubakar, who participated in the She Code Africa Program. We invited them to talk about the program and share what they’ve done, as well as discussing bots and the welcoming of newcomers. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:55] Mide and Precious give us a brief introduction about themselves. [00:04:20] We find out the details on the She Code Africa Program, their experience with getting into She Code Africa, how they found CHAOSS, and how they decided to engage with the CHAOSS Project. [00:08:54] We learn how the idea of the bot came about and the design process. [00:13:26] There’s a discussion about the kinds of challenges they faced in creating the bot and what they learned in the process. [00:16:34] Georg wonders how the response has been in the community since the bot was implemented. [00:19:14] Mide explains more about the use of the bot at She Code Africa. [00:20:22] Precious and Ruth fill us in where they think the project will go next and share some ideas for the future. [00:21:50] If you would like to get involved, find out where you can connect to get started. [00:23:34] Mide and Precious share how the mentorship helped them understand CHAOSS. We also hear from the mentors what they’ve learned in this program or if they’ve learned to appreciate CHAOSS in a different way. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:28:44] Georg’s pick is learning sometimes an upgrade saves you money. [00:30:22] Ruth’s pick is her Personal Assistant, Olamide Makinde. [00:30:54] Elizabeth’s pick is a northern walkingstick insect. [00:32:15] Precious’s pick is Rotary Youth Leadership Awards (RYLA). [00:33:07] Mide’s pick is leading a children’s and adult coding bootcamp. [00:34:00] Matt’s pick is enjoying his first month living in Oregon. [00:34:34] Sean’s pick is to try to get to Wisconsin in the Fall. Panelists: Georg Link Elizabeth Barron Sean Goggins Matt Cantu Snell Ruth Ikegah Guests: Precious Abubakar Iyimide Adegunloye Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Sean Goggins Twitter (https://twitter.com/sociallycompute) Elizabeth Barron Twitter (https://twitter.com/elizabethn) Matt Cantu Snell LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/matt-cantu-snell-2827bb16a) Ruth Ikegah Twitter (https://twitter.com/IkegahRuth) Precious Abubakar Twitter (https://twitter.com/_pdan) Precious Abubakar LinkedIn (https://ng.linkedin.com/in/precious-abubakar) Precious Abubakar Website (https://www.thepda.tech/) Iyimide Adegunloye Twitter (https://twitter.com/cuteiyimi) Iyimide Adegunloye LinkedIn (https://ng.linkedin.com/in/iyimide-adegunloye) Iyimide Adegunloye Website (https://iyimide.netlify.app/) She Code Africa (https://shecodeafrica.org/) She Code Africa Contributhon (https://shecodeafrica.org/programs/contributhon-1) CHAOSS Slack Bot-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss/chaoss-slack-bot) Common walkingstick (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Common_walkingstick) Rotary Youth Leadership Awards (RYLA) (https://www.rotary.org/en/our-programs/rotary-youth-leadership-awards) Special Guests: Iyimide Adegunloye (Mide) and Precious Abubakar.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are joined by two wonderful guests that Venia met during an amazing talk at the Community Spaces. We have Victoria Cumberbatch, Founder of adventuresOFcommunity, a Community Development Consultancy, and Bri Leever, a Community Architect and Founder of Ember. Our conversations take us through finding out how everyone got their start in community, and what numbers mean for our brands and what they’ll mean for open source health. Also, we’ll find out about Bri’s learning journey, and more about the metrics Bri and Viki are using and the kinds of stories they’re telling with them. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:33] Bri, Lori, and Viki fill us in on how they got started in community and where their love of community came from. [00:09:15] Georg shares his story of how he got his start in community. [00:12:57] There’s a great discussion about what numbers really mean for our brands and what they’ll mean for open source health afterward. [00:16:45] Venia brings up a story about Morning Brew talking about the progression of their community, and Bri tells us about a community she’s managing for the company Piktochart and how they manage their metrics and interesting things they do with her. [00:20:29] Bri mentioned the learning journey, and she explains what she considers the learning journey, the kinds of stories she finds herself telling, and the metrics she’s weaving in with the learning journeys. [00:24:04] Venia talks about Chris Mercer and one of his main statements is no one is a numbers person, and Bri adds be saying, the power is in the pattern, and she tells us about a book called, Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don’t Know by Adam Grant. [00:25:56] We hear what kind of metrics Viki uses, the kinds of stories she’s telling with them, and using the Cultural Adjustment Graph. Bri and Lori share some thoughts as well. [00:32:30] Lori explains some of the behaviors she was speaking about. [00:34:40] Venia asks everyone how they would systemize and turn that story into something that people can query on a weekly basis whenever they need. Bri tells us about a community platform called, Heartbeat. [00:41:41] Georg highlights CHAOSS software. [00:42:41] Find out where you can follow Viki and Bri online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:43:44] Georg’s pick is the WordPress community. [00:44:44] Bri’s pick is having availability in her life to make friends in all areas. [00:45:39] Venia’s pick is the importance of farming and shovel environments. [00:46:41] Lori’s pick is being grateful that she’s around people who are really lit up by what they’re doing and sharing really neat things that they’re doing. [00:47:37] Viki’s pick is finding a meetup group and playing volleyball with them. Panelists: Venia Logan Georg Link Lori Goldman Guests: Victoria Cumberbatch Bri Leever Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Georg Link LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/georglink) Venia Logan Twitter (https://twitter.com/SamanthaVenia) Samantha “Venia” Logan LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthavlogan) Lori Goldman LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/lori-goldman-054b323) Bri Leever Twitter (https://twitter.com/brileever) Bri Leever LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/briannaleever) Ember LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/ember-community-marketing?trk=public_profile_topcard-current-company) Ember Consulting (https://www.emberconsulting.co/) Victoria Cumberbatch LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/victoriamc) adventuresOFcommunity LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/adventuresofcommunity?trk=public_profile_topcard-current-company) An inside look at the Morning Brew’s growth (Morning Brew) (https://www.morningbrew.com/sponsored/bamboohr/inside-look-at-morningbrew) Piktochart (https://piktochart.com/) Think Again: The Power of Knowing What You Don’t Know by Adam Grant (https://adamgrant.net/book/think-again/) The W curve of adaptation (YouTube) (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yksXEdJjT8I) Heartbeat (https://www.heartbeat.chat/) WordPress (https://wordpress.org/) The Illustrated Children’s Guide to Kubernetes by Matt Butcher and Karen Chu (https://www.cncf.io/phippy/the-childrens-illustrated-guide-to-kubernetes/) CHAOSS Community software (https://chaoss.community/software/) A Socially Constructed Discord (https://discord.com/invite/JxPWu5Z69c) Special Guests: Bri Leever, Lori Goldman, and Victoria C.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, Georg has two experts in analyzing open source community repositories joining him from Arnica, which is focused on software security supply chain security. Our two guests today are Chris Abraham, Head of Data Science, and Nir Valtman, Co-Founder and CEO, and they’re here to tell us about an analysis they conducted called, “How do top open-source projects protect their code?”, the story behind why they decided to do this, and some surprising things they learned from the analysis. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:09] Chris and Nir introduce themselves, how they got into open source, what brought them to Arnica, and what they’re doing now. [00:05:38] Georg brings up a blog post that Chris and Nir wrote on, “How do top open-source projects protect their code?” and we hear why they did this study and how they went about doing it. [00:09:11] When looking at the data, Georg asks if people have policies around it and if we can infer from it if there’s a security issue or not. Also, Nir and Chris detail how they went about collecting data and looking at what open source is doing. [00:14:15] Chris and Nir wanted to know if code owners contribute to quality, and we find out how they assessed quality. [00:19:57] We learn some surprising things Chris and Nir learned from the analysis. [00:22:10] Georg mentions maintainer burnout and the workload that is being put on maintainers, and he asks how Chris and Nir see the security controls contributing to maintainer burnout or even helping the demands on maintainers. [00:27:24] Chris and Nir looked at the top 250 projects on GitHub, they tell us how the findings apply to smaller open source and the long tail of projects we have. [00:33:28] Find out where you can follow Chris and Nir and the work they’re doing. [00:34:45] Nir tells us about their open source project called, GitGoat. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:36:16] Georg’s pick is rediscovering Firefox Focus. [00:37:32] Chris’s pick is his connection with the Digital and Analog world and finishing his wood floors with the help of watching YouTube videos. [00:39:16] Nir’s pick is realizing Startup life is not easy and his wife helped him to do more things like mountain biking twice a week. Panelist: Georg Link Guests: Chris Abraham Nir Valtman Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Chris Jacob Abraham LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/chrisjacobabraham) Nir Valtman Twitter (https://twitter.com/valtmanir) Nir Valtman LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/valtmanir) Arnica (https://www.arnica.io/) Arnica Twitter (https://twitter.com/ArnicaIO) Arnica LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/company/arnica-io) How do top open-source projects protect their code? (Blog post) (https://www.arnica.io/blog/how-do-top-open-source-projects-protect-their-code) GitGoat (https://gitgoat.tools/) Firefox Focus (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/browsers/mobile/focus/) Special Guests: Chris Jacob Abraham and Nir Valtman.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. We are super excited to have joining us, Maurice Hendriks, who works for the Municipality of Amsterdam as a policy maker, specifically on the topic of Open Source. He’s here to share his journey into open source and to talk more about his views on open source. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:56] Maurice shares his journey into open source and how he got into the field. [00:05:23] Sean wonders if misunderstandings affect the work that Maurice is trying to accomplish, and Maurice talks about the laws in Netherlands and how open source is essential for the morality of the city. [00:09:36] From the government perspective Maurice talked about, he explains different perspectives on what a healthy open source project or community is. [00:12:24] Are these other governments, other municipalities in Netherlands that are using the open source software, built in Amsterdam? [00:17:28] Maurice explains how policy would potentially influence this social system. [00:21:16] We find out the difference between open sourcing something and having something publicly available. [00:23:39] What bothers Maurice as a policy maker? [00:26:15] Sean brings up a point about if software is a social good open sourcing, there needs to be a way for that to be sustainable so it’s not just Maurice that’s maintaining a particular project, and he wonders how Maurice balances that. [00:29:08] We hear the main lesson people should get from Maurice’s vision. [00:30:05] Find out where you can follow Maurice’s and his work online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:32:53] Georg’s pick is taking a family trip to Europe. [00:33:30] Sean’s pick is witnessing the number of people in this country who are actively engaged in fixing the problems with the recent rulings by our Supreme Court. [00:34:05] Maurice’s pick is his wife finishing her book, Akal-About life in the Dutch East Indies_ _by Lilja Anna Perdijk. Panelists: Georg Link Sean Goggins Guest: Maurice Hendriks Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Quotes: [00:04:27] “If there is no power, there is no software.” [00:07:11] “My mission is to use open source software to get transparency into Government information and technology.” [00:29:08] “The main lesson from my vision: Community built software is the cherry on the cake. You first need to get layers and components in place or you don’t get a cake at all.” Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Sean Goggins Twitter (https://twitter.com/sociallycompute) The Universal Permissive License (UPL), Version 1.0 (Open Source Initiative) (https://opensource.org/licenses/UPL) European Union Public License, Version 1.2 (EUPL-1.2) (https://opensource.org/licenses/EUPL-1.2) Akal-Overleven in Nederlands-Indië (Dutch) (https://lilja.nl/) Akal-About life in the Dutch East Indies (English) (https://lilja.nl/) OpenNMT (https://opennmt.net/) Special Guest: Maurice Hendriks.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we’re having a revisit episode with a guest we’ve had on before. We’re so excited to welcome back Jono Bacon, a leading community and collaboration strategy consultant, author, and speaker, and previously led community at GitHub, Canonical, and XPRIZE. Our conversations today include a mix of revisiting some things we talked about in Jono’s previous episode, updates on what’s changed in the community industry and in his world, as well as some new things that are happening in Web3. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:48] Jono gives us an introduction about who he is and what he does. [00:04:22] We find out some key strategies that Jono’s been using lately to propel his personal career and development as a Community Manager. [00:07:55] Lori wonders if anyone is seeing this move toward integrating and working with different tools as opposed to having everything centralized, and if this has to do with the onset of Web3. Jono tells us how he’s skeptical of the all-in-one community. [00:10:20] Georg brings up how we need more diversity in the ecosystem of tooling and Jono shares his thoughts on this. [00:13:14] Venia tells us about Grapevine communication. [00:15:14] The cruise ship model of data structure is brought up and Venia wonders where Jono thinks that’s going to take us moving into the future of Web3. [00:18:17] Georg asks Jono if he sees changes in communities and how communities work due to these new demands that are being put on them. [00:22:35] Jono tells us what a Community Manager’s responsibility should be to the community by explaining it in three layers: Policy, Technology, and Influence. [00:29:45] Lori expresses the importance of listening to the passionate people, and since community is a teachable profession, she asks, “Where does it go now?” [00:34:26] Jono gives us his honest answer to the least understood aspects of being a Community Manager since a lot has changed over the last two years. [00:38:16] Find out Jono’s opinion on how community manages metrics. Value Adds of the week: [00:42:31] Jono’s pick is something he learned from his coach that was super interesting which is, when you’ve got the right balance of enthusiasm and you’re only going to work with people who really are aligned on what you’re trying to do, you’ll get better at what you do. [00:44:19] Venia’s pick is when you make a mistake, iterate the plan, and make sure you’re not iterating it yourself. [00:45:39] Georg’s pick is a journey he’s taking to start reading more and learn about living healthier. [00:46:17] Lori’s picks are to ignore your head and just go do something that you think is really going to make you happy, and the joy of finding these things that were a part of you in the past and you can now bring forward. Panelists: Venia Logan Georg Link Lori Goldman Guest: Jono Bacon Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Venia Logan Twitter (https://twitter.com/SamanthaVenia) Lori Goldman LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/lori-goldman-054b323) IndyKite (https://www.indykite.com/) Jono Bacon Twitter (https://twitter.com/jonobacon?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Jono Bacon Website (https://www.jonobacon.com/) Community Experience Masterclass (https://pages.jonobacon.com/community-experience-masterclass) CHAOSScast Podcast- Episode 7: Your Community Story with Jono Bacon (https://podcast.chaoss.community/7) Orbit (https://orbit.love/) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 37: The Orbit Model with Patrick Woods (https://podcast.chaoss.community/37) CMX-Gamification: A Fireside Chat with Jono Bacon (https://events.cmxhub.com/events/details/cmx-denver-presents-gamification-a-fireside-chat-with-jono-bacon/) Special Guests: Jono Bacon and Lori Goldman.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today’s episode is a shared podcast between Sustain and CHAOSS. We have six panelists to talk about maintaining open source and we’ll also do a quick update from a previous episode and talk about what has changed and what maintaining open source looks like today. The panelists we have are Georg Link, Richard Littauer, Dawn Foster, Willem Jiang, Amanda Casari, and Ben Nickolls. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:19] The six panelists introduce themselves. [00:04:45] Richard details more about what Sustain is, Georg and Dawn explain CHAOSS and what’s going on there, and Amanda shares what she likes about CHAOSS. [00:13:56] Dawn talks about the kind of community members CHAOSS has, Willem tells us about the Asia community, and Ben shares his views on the Sustain community. [00:20:04] Georg asks if there’s been any updates on the funding situation in open source and if anything has changed there and Ben updates us. [00:24:14] When thinking about resources, who gets paid, how money flows, and how we identify when help is needed, Amanda wonders how that’s changed in the last few years in the CHAOSS community. [00:26:34] Richard shares from his angle what he’s seen about what has changed in the past two years in open source. [00:28:33] Ben shares his views on the supply chain conversation about who is making money in open source. [00:30:36] Since security is such a hot topic, Georg asks if we’re prepared in all the open source projects to really focus on this topic or if we have to upskill everyone, and we hear Ben’s thoughts on this. [00:32:27] Richard explains how you can get involved in Sustain happenings that are going on, and Georg and Dawn inform us about some projects, working groups, and other things going on with CHAOSS. [00:40:42] Find out where you can get involved with Sustain and CHAOSS. Spotlights/Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:35:46] Georg’s pick is meeting with an online local group and doing cool things together. [00:36:31] Richard’s pick is going on a super long hike and buying a hydration pack (CamelBak Pouch). [00:37:21] Dawn’s spotlight is GraphiQL. [00:37:59] Ben’s spotlights are taking care of Swifts on his roof, and the book, Swifts and Us: The Life of the Bird that Sleeps in the Sky. [00:38:21] Amanda’s pick is the book, Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle. [00:39:29] Willem’s pick is ApacheCon Asia 2022. Panelists: Georg Link Richard Littauer Dawn Foster Willem Jiang Amanda Casari Ben Nickolls Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Community Participate (https://chaoss.community/participate/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Twitter (https://twitter.com/SustainOSS?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) Sustain Podcast (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/) podcast@sustainoss.org (mailto:podcast@sustainoss.org) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Richard Littauer Twitter (https://twitter.com/richlitt?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Dawn Foster Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn) Willem Jiang Twitter (https://twitter.com/willemjiang) Amanda Casari Twitter (https://twitter.com/amcasari/) Ben Nickolls Twitter (https://twitter.com/BenJam?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Sustain Podcast-Episode 65: CHAOSS and Sustain: A Joint Podcast (https://podcast.sustainoss.org/65) Ecosyste.ms (https://ecosyste.ms/) xkcd (https://xkcd.com/2347/) Executive Order on Improving the Nation’s Cybersecurity (The White House) (https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/presidential-actions/2021/05/12/executive-order-on-improving-the-nations-cybersecurity/) Sustain 2021 Event Report (https://sustainoss.org/assets/pdf/Sustain-In-2021-Event-Report.pdf) Mozilla-Open Source Archetypes: A Framework For Purposeful Open Source May 2018 (https://blog.mozilla.org/wp-content/uploads/2018/05/MZOTS_OS_Archetypes_report_ext_scr.pdf) SonarQube (https://www.sonarqube.org/) CamelBak Crux 3-Liter Water Reservoir (https://www.amazon.com/CamelBak-Crux-Reservoir-Set-Blue/dp/B01LA5FCJ2/ref=sr_1_2?gclid=Cj0KCQjw_7KXBhCoARIsAPdPTfjbp84atlITCdNAL5gP7kt8BFwPzg9TcouW3yKU019aOaPtTeB5wmkaAmvTEALw_wcB&hvadid=410016279262&hvdev=c&hvlocphy=9010767&hvnetw=g&hvqmt=e&hvrand=9439371394441572640&hvtargid=kwd-324558368114&hydadcr=9380_11541651&keywords=camelbak+pouches&qid=1659732626&sr=8-2) GraphiQL (https://www.gatsbyjs.com/docs/how-to/querying-data/running-queries-with-graphiql/) Swifts and Us: The Life of the Bird that Sleeps in the Sky by Sarah Gibson Burnout: The Secret to Unlocking the Stress Cycle by Emily Nagoski, PhD and Amelia Nagoski, DMA (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/592377/burnout-by-emily-nagoski-phd-and-amelia-nagoski-dma/) ApacheCon Asia 2022 (https://www.apachecon.com/acasia2022/) Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal Special Guests: Amanda Casari, Benjamin Nickolls, Richard Littauer, and Willem Jiang.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. We are super excited to have as our guest, Richard Millington, who’s the Founder of FeverBee and author of Build Your Community. Today, we’ll be talking with Richard about communities, metrics, and what FeverBee does for organizations. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:31] Richard introduces himself, he tells us about FeverBee, and how he got into the field of communities. [00:06:11] How did Richard move Seth and a lot of his clients into the headspace of being community first and what a community could do for his brands? [00:12:29] Richard dives into the topic of convince and persuade. [00:16:22] We hear Richard’s thoughts on how to set goals for community or for existing communities that are out there today. [00:19:26] When you find what your goals are for engaging a community, Georg wonders how to do this authentically without overriding what everyone else is already doing in the community, and Richard tells us how they approach it. [00:25:02] We learn from Richard the way to go about understanding what matters for your community and finding the right goals. [00:29:10] When it comes to open source communities, Richard shares suggestions of where to begin when people are trying to figure out what goals to set. [00:30:56] Georg asks Richard if he’s ever done a workshop in an asynchronous way over mailing lists or slack where you didn’t require everyone to be in the same room at the same time for the workshop. [00:31:55] We hear about setting targets based upon prior data or data that already exists, and Richard explains a problem in plucking metrics from thin air. [00:36:53] Find out where you can follow Richard on the internet. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:37:46] Georg’s pick is enjoying their backyard pool. [00:39:24] Richard’s pick is his girlfriend’s cat finally likes him. [00:40:31] Venia’s pick is the importance of travel. Panelists: Georg Link Venia Logan Guest: Richard Millington Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Venia Logan Twitter (https://twitter.com/SamanthaVenia?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Richard Millington Twitter (https://twitter.com/richmillington) Richard Millington LinkedIn (https://uk.linkedin.com/in/richard-millington-5a32782) FeverBee (https://www.feverbee.com/) Build Your Community by Richard Millington_ Richard’s Blog- “How to Set the Right Targets and Build a Great Community Dashboard” (https://www.feverbee.com/community-dashboard/) Richard’s Blog- “Have You Prepared Your Community for These Powerful Trends?” (https://www.feverbee.com/ommunity-technology/) Special Guest: Richard Millington.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Venia is super excited about this episode because you may know our guests from around the community. Today, we have Brian Oblinger, Senior Vice President of New Products at Commsor, and Lori Goldman, Community Manager at ForgeRock. Our conversations touch on how Brian and Lori found themselves in community and their experiences with measuring community health over the years. We also learn about some start-ups in the community, what CMX has done in the community, where the community is going in a post 2022 world, and some projects Lori and Brian are working on. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:11] Brian and Lori share their stories on how they found themselves in community and measuring community health. [00:04:58] We hear about some start-ups such as Commsor, Orbit, and Common Room. [00:06:24] Lori and Brian talk about their experiences with measuring community health over the years. [00:10:26] Venia wonders how we’re supposed to bring businesses back into the discussion about measurement marketing, and Brian explains it’s about understanding who you’re talking to and understanding their language and Lori mentions monetizing it. [00:13:05] Lori speaks about the conversation about metrics and the wrapping in of community and CMX. [00:18:08] Venia explains her take on managing metrics, and Lori and Brian share some thoughts. [00:20:06] We find out how this community measurement is going to look like in a post-2022, post pandemic, and the problems that need to be solved. [00:24:23] Lori brings up the interconnection between community and developer relations and how do we work best with that function since it’s so important, and Brian and Venia share their thoughts. [00:27:56] Find out what Lori and Brian are doing as far as projects in the next six months to a year with community metrics. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:31:12] Brian’s picks are a meeting series built by Tiffany Oda and Cassie Mayes called Community OPServations and subscribing to MasterClass. [00:32:29] Lori’s picks are Duolingo to learn Spanish and to start a personal podcast. [00:34:08] Venia’s pick is an information diet campaign she put together. Panelist: Venia Logan Guests: Brian Oblinger Lori Goldman Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Venia Logan Twitter (https://twitter.com/SamanthaVenia?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Brian Oblinger Website (https://brianoblinger.com/) Brian Oblinger Twitter (https://twitter.com/brianoblinger) Brian Oblinger LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/brianoblinger) Lori Goldman LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/lori-goldman-054b323) ForgeRock (https://www.forgerock.com/) Commsor (https://www.commsor.com/) Orbit (https://orbit.love/) Common Room (https://www.commonroom.io/) CMX Summit 2022 (https://cmxhub.com/) Community OPServations (https://lu.ma/opservations) MasterClass (https://www.masterclass.com/) Duolingo (https://www.duolingo.com/) The Information Diet: A Case for Conscious Consumption by Clay A. Johnson How to go on an information diet by Anne-Laure Le Cunff (Ness Labs) (https://nesslabs.com/information-diet) Special Guests: Brian Oblinger and Lori Goldman.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, our special guest is Matt Van Itallie, who’s the Founder and CEO of Sema, a software company focused on code quality. Today, we find out about Sema’s tools, one being an analytics tool to understand open source, the other one helps developers build a portfolio of their work, and we learn how these tools relate to the work CHAOSS is doing. Also, Matt goes in depth about “code is a craft,” using Sonar for Linting, and ScanCode, and some things he would like to make better in the future. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:42] Matt tells us his background and what brought him to CHAOSS. [00:03:17] We hear Matt’s thoughts on the various paradoxes and complexities when evaluating code quality in open source, Sean asks Matt if anyone has cataloged the available Linters, and we hear about an open source project called ScanCode. [00:07:21] Sean brings up the language agnostic code quality analysis tool, and Matt explains how it works, what the benefits are, and some constraints that he’s discovered in his work. [00:09:54] Georg wonders how detailed Matt gets looking at the process analysis. [00:12:37] Matt talks about explaining quality measurement to executives and non-technical executives. [00:15:19] Since security is always a concern, Sean tells us about a challenge they have in the Risk working group at CHAOSS with identifying various declared recognized risks, and Matt explains how this relates to the work he’s doing. [00:21:10] Georg wonders if there’s anything Matt wants to make better in the future and if the CHAOSS Community can help him with it. He explains an automated tool to understand the health of the guild. [00:26:40] Matt talks about a tool from Sema that makes it easier and faster to write code reviews and using ScanCode. [00:29:33] Find out where you can follow Matt online. Quote: [00:19:29] “Code is a craft means that creators matter a ton because there’s so much institutional knowledge in their heads about how things fit together and the meaning of it. Crafts people create meaning that is incredibly hard to transfer.” Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:30:29] Georg’s pick is moving into a new house. [00:30:46] Matt’s pick are two extraordinary open source community leaders, Kunal and Eddie. [00:31:30] Sean’s picks are being back on his bicycle, TREK 520 with Schwalbe tires, and to thank Google, Red Hat, and VMware for all the support they’ve provided for CHAOSS Project. Panelists: Georg Link Sean Goggins Guest: Matt Van Itallie Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/GeorgLink) Sean Goggins Twitter (https://twitter.com/sociallycompute) Matt Van Itallie Twitter (https://twitter.com/vanitallie_matt?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Matt Van Itallie LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/mvi?original_referer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com%2F) Sema (https://www.semasoftware.com/) Sonar (https://www.sonarsource.com/) ScanCode toolkit-GitHub (https://github.com/nexB/scancode-toolkit) Kunal Kushwaha Twitter (https://twitter.com/kunalstwt) Eddie Jaoude Twitter (https://twitter.com/eddiejaoude) TREK 520 (https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/bikepacking-touring-bikes/520/520/p/24000/) Schwalbe tires (https://www.schwalbetires.com/) Special Guest: Matt Van Itallie.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, Venia, Don, and Sean are having a panel discussion about the juicy news with Google Analytics, the history of it, their experience with it over the years, and the future of metrics. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:47] Don, Sean, and Venia share their experiences with Google Analytics. [00:03:45] Venia announces the big news about Google Analytics and we hear about the history of Google Analytics. [00:13:47] Sean asks if the folks who were invisible to the conventional Analytics become a prototype of what people have in terms of tools and power under the new Google, and Venia explains “dark data.” [00:16:25] Don talks about the global privacy control you have to do for handling personal data in California and the California Detector. [00:17:32] Venia talks about what happened in 2016 with GDPR. [00:19:29] Where does Google Analytics new platform fit into this problem space? [00:22:46] Sean asks if we are anthropomorphizing his smart fridge if it’s connected to the internet and if it now has a right to be forgotten, and Venia and Don respond. [00:27:37] Don explains about how we put a lot of emphasis on privacy changes but arbitrary policy changes by big platforms also have a big impact, and we learn how much will be handled by JavaScript Frameworks and development tools down the road. [00:30:54] Venia wonders how much of a nightmare this transition will be, and what it will look like for the business owner, the end user, and for Google. [00:36:24] What are the implications for people who buy and sell these ads by the thousand and what are the implications for the consumer? [00:40:30] We hear about a new group called the Private Advertising Technology Community Group and what they do. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:41:25] Don’s pick is The Flask Mega-Tutorial. [00:43:23] Venia’s pick is working in her sketchbook. [00:43:56] Sean’s pick is getting outside to ride his bicycle. Panelists: Venia Logan Don Marti Sean Goggins Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Flask Mega-Tutorial Update: Flask 2.0 and more! By Miguel Grinberg (https://blog.miguelgrinberg.com/post/flask-mega-tutorial-update-flask-2-0-and-more) News: Google Sunsetting Universal Analytics in 2023 (https://www.searchenginejournal.com/google-sunsetting-universal-analytics-in-2023/442168/#close) Europe’s Move Against Google Analytics Is Just the Beginning (https://www.wired.com/story/google-analytics-europe-austria-privacy-shield/) UPDATE: CNIL decides EU-US data transfer to Google Analytics illegal (https://noyb.eu/en/update-cnil-decides-eu-us-data-transfer-google-analytics-illegal) Website fined by German court for leaking visitor’s IP address via Google Fonts (https://www.theregister.com/2022/01/31/website_fine_google_fonts_gdpr/) State Laws Related to Digital Privacy (https://www.ncsl.org/research/telecommunications-and-information-technology/state-laws-related-to-internet-privacy.aspx) Problems Persist With Google’s Privacy Sandbox Proposals as Trials Open (https://www.adweek.com/programmatic/problems-persist-with-googles-privacy-sandbox-proposals-as-trials-open/) Case Studies: How Target Figured Out A Teen Girl Was Pregnant Before Her Father Did (https://www.forbes.com/sites/kashmirhill/2012/02/16/how-target-figured-out-a-teen-girl-was-pregnant-before-her-father-did/?sh=627c16db6668) Data Brokers: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver (HBO) YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqn3gR1WTcA) Next steps in privacy-preserving Telemetry with Prio-Mozilla Security Blog (https://blog.mozilla.org/security/2019/06/06/next-steps-in-privacy-preserving-telemetry-with-prio/) Privacy Tools: Ghostery (https://www.ghostery.com/) ClearURLs (https://docs.clearurls.xyz/1.23.0/) Global Privacy Control (https://globalprivacycontrol.org/) Implementing Global Privacy Control in Firefox (https://blog.mozilla.org/netpolicy/2021/10/28/implementing-global-privacy-control/) CCPA opt out, nerd edition (Don Marti Blog) (https://blog.zgp.org/ccpa-for-nerds/) Cleaning up YouTube (Don Marti Blog) (https://blog.zgp.org/youtube-cleanup/) Forums: Private Advertising Technology Community Group (https://patcg.github.io/) CPPA Regulations (Public rulemaking process for CPRA (next generation of CCPA) (https://cppa.ca.gov/regulations/) Fair Competition on the Post-Cookie Web (https://webwideopen.com/fair-competition-on-the-post-cookie-web/)
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are excited to have as our guest, Hilary Carter, who is the Vice President of Research at the Linux Foundation where she leads the creation of decision-useful insights into the open source technologies and standards underpinning much of the digital infrastructure on which the global economy depends. Today’s discussion focuses on the Linux Foundation Research. Hilary goes in depth with the planning process on what she chooses to investigate, their process of surveys and collecting trace data, metrics, and some surprises she learned about research in the open source community. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:09] Hilary tells us her background and how she got to be the VP of Research at the Linux Foundation. [00:04:02] What is Hilary’s planning and scoping process to choose what she chooses to investigate? [00:07:01] When Hilary talks about the open source paradigm and the framework built around it, we learn where she sees the community within that. [00:08:35] Since Hilary has been in her role for a year, she explains some things she was surprised to learn about research in this area. [00:10:59] Sophia wonders how Hilary has had to adapt her research processes in order to develop methodologies in this new format. [00:16:00] Georg wonders how much Hilary leverages the LFX insights platform and how much other data does she collect about communities without having to incentivize people. [00:20:02] Kate asks if there are areas Hilary would like to see more standard metrics evolve to make it easier to match things up and get insight. [00:24:10] We learn how Hilary is creating research for specific users or personas. [00:26:38] Sophia brings up a great question to Hilary about how we can coordinate as a community so we can collaborate and work more in tandem with each other. [00:29:24] Hilary talks about establishing a working group to share ideas within the community. [00:30:13] Find out where you can follow Hilary and her work online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:31:02] Georg’s pick is going on a family road trip for Spring Break. [00:31:40] Hilary’s pick is working remotely from her cottage this summer. [00:32:26] Kate’s pick is reviewing the submissions for OSS NA tracks. [00:32:44] Sophia’s pick is her travel yoga mat and using it for trips. Panelists: Georg Link Kate Stewart Sophia Vargas Guest: Hilary Carter Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Hilary Carter Twitter (https://twitter.com/tweetfromhilary) Hilary Carter LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/hilarycartermsc) hcarter@linuxfoundation.org (mailto:hcarter@linuxfoundation.org) research@linuxfoundation.org (mailto:research@linuxfoundation.org) The Linux Foundation Research (https://linuxfoundation.org/research/) Yoga Travel Mats (https://www.amazon.com/s?k=yoga+travel+mat&crid=3B50DLZFABJRP&sprefix=yoga+travel+mat%2Caps%2C85&ref=nb_sb_noss_1) Special Guest: Hilary Carter.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. On this episode we have joining us, Chenqi Shan, who’s an open source developer at Huawei Open Source management center. Today we have a great discussion about GrimoireLab, which is a powerful CHAOSS tool for gathering data, and we find out a multitude of dashboards that can be used to show metric models. Chenqi shares with us how she uses GrimoireLab and how her experience has been contributing to the GrimoireLab project. Daniel details the GrimoireLab repository Sigils, and the component Perceval, and we hear stories about different approaches and different problems that we’re trying to solve with GrimoireLab. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:53] Daniel gives us a little history of Grimoire Lab, and Chenqi tells us how she uses GrimoireLab and the benefits it has for her organization and her analysis of open source software, health, sustainability, and openEuler. [00:05:59] Sean asks Chenqi about what kinds of key information do the special interest groups get from GrimoireLab that help them understand the work that needs to be done or how things are going, and Chenqi also explains what she means by health. [00:07:33] Chenqi tells us if she uses any other big metrics in their dashboards or in their setups besides the health for the response. [00:08:32] With 90 special interest groups involved, we find out if there are less experienced or newer groups that look at different metrics than some of the more experienced special interest groups. [00:10:05] Venia and Daniel talk about how different dashboards are useful to different projects at different levels or parts of their life cycle. [00:14:10] Chenqi explains their metrics. [00:16:02] We hear Chenqi’s thoughts on her experience contributing to the Grimoire Lab project. [00:17:12] Chenqi shares some recommendations for developers that would like to help with GrimoireLab gitee or GrimoireLab. [00:18:04] Venia, Daniel, and Sean share some important things about GrimoireLab and then Daniel tells us about the GrimoireLab repository Sigils. [00:25:56] Chenqi tells us why they used OpenSearch instead of Elasticsearch on their project. [00:27:32] Daniel explains if it’s common to have different platform dashboards or metric models that are presented to different projects or roles on a project in a larger organization or open source enterprise. [00:32:00] Find out about Perceval, which is a very powerful component of GrimoireLab, and Venia talks about a case study she did. [00:36:58] Looking forward towards the next year, Daniel talks about some of the key objectives happening in GrimoireLab in terms of new features, new functionality, and advances in technology and he shares a wish list of what he would like to see. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:40:54] Sean’s pick is his bicycle. [00:41:31] Venia’s pick is having better help with virtual digital therapy available. [00:42:09] Daniel’s pick is being able to meet with people. [00:42:43] Chenqi’s pick is going to Universal Studios and seeing Harry Potter. Panelists: Sean Goggins Venia Logan Daniel Izguierdo Guest: Chenqi Shan Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Sean Goggins Twitter (https://twitter.com/sociallycompute) Venia Logan Twitter (https://twitter.com/samanthavenia) Daniel Izguierdo Twitter (https://twitter.com/dizquierdo?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Chenqi Shan-GitHub (https://github.com/shanchenqi) Huawei (https://www.huawei.com/us/open-source) openEuler (https://www.openeuler.org/en/) GrimoireLab (https://chaoss.github.io/grimoirelab/) GrimoireLab-gitee (https://github.com/grimoirelab-gitee/grimoirelab-elk-gitee) Sigil (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sigil) Generic Dashboards for GrimoireLab-Sigils (https://github.com/chaoss/grimoirelab-sigils) GrimoireLab Perceval-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss/grimoirelab-perceval) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 21: Extending GrimoireLab projects with Ria and Venu (https://podcast.chaoss.community/21) Special Guest: Chenqi Shan.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. On today’s episode, we have joining us as our guest, Dhruv Sachdev, who’s an undergraduate Computer Engineering student at Mumbai University and was a Google Summer of Code 2021 student for CHAOSS. Dhruv is here to talk about his path to open source and the project he did with the Google Summer of Code 2021. We hear about his experience managing his time as a student and working on this project, what projects he’s excited about doing in the near future, and he shares advice if you are new to open source or if you’re looking to explore the world of open source. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:00] Dhruv tells us his path to open source, when he started working on an open source project, how he found out about it, and what he finds cool about CHAOSS. [00:03:40] Sean wonders what it is about the measurement and analytics field that is so fascinating to Dhruv. [00:06:28] We hear more about Dhruv’s project he did with the Google Summer of Code. [00:10:34] Dhruv tells us what resources really helped him when he started with the Augur team to better understand the software components and more about how CHAOSS was structured. [00:12:17] Sophia talks about a research article evaluating hackathons and how effective they are on open source projects, and Sean tells us about the benefits and impacts of Google Summer of Code. [00:15:33] Dhruv explains his experience as a student, how he thought about time management, and volunteering his time in this space while still in school. [00:21:00] Sean talks about Dhruv’s pieces that he did of Augur that looked at metrics and wonders why dependencies are so important right now, and Sophia explains why. [00:25:45] Sean explains what happened in the OpenSSL security breach and talks about Heartbleed. Sophia brings up a previous episode with Avi Press, Founder of Scarf, which is an analytics tool, and explains about the vulnerabilities with tools. [00:29:50] Find out what Dhruv is most excited about doing in the near future with projects. [00:32:54] Dhruv shares advice if you are new to open source or students who are looking to explore the vast ecosystem of open source. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:35:04] Sean’s pick is Discord’s emergence. [00:36:11] Sophia’s pick is cats and daylight savings time. [00:38:11] Dhruv’s pick is having so much fun at the MahaShivRatri festival. Panelists: Sean Goggins Sophia Vargas Guest: Dhruv Sachdev Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) Sean Goggins Twitter (https://twitter.com/sociallycompute) Sophia Vargas Twitter (https://twitter.com/sophia_iv?lang=en) Dhruv Sachdev Website (https://dhruvsachdev.me/) Dhruv Sachdev Twitter (https://twitter.com/dhruvhsachdev) Dhruv Sachdev LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dhruv-sachdev-19b1b3143/) Dhruv Sachdev project submission-Google Summer of Code 2021 for CHAOSS (https://github.com/Dhruv-Sachdev1313/GSoC-2021-CHAOSS) Security Scorecards (https://github.com/ossf/scorecard) CHAOSS Augur (https://github.com/chaoss/augur) CHAOSS Risk Metrics Working Group (https://github.com/chaoss/wg-risk) CHAOSS Community Handbook (https://handbook.chaoss.community/community-handbook/) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 53: Gathering Open Source Usage Data with Avi Press (https://podcast.chaoss.community/53) SwiftOnSecurity Twitter (https://twitter.com/SwiftOnSecurity?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Sam Stepanyan Twitter (https://twitter.com/securestep9) MahaShivRatri 2022 (https://isha.sadhguru.org/mahashivratri/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwuMuRBhCJARIsAHXdnqPHxLi6oWCF8vdEMzIo17gnKUEd4XThyD6zrMLlU2ohO6XCVIBG5ZUaAjDfEALw_wcB) Special Guest: Dhruv Sachdev.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. On today’s episode, we are talking about Diversity, Equity, & Inclusion Reflection, which is a project that we had at CHAOSS Community to look at our own practices and how we can make our community more welcoming and inclusive, and we were fortunate to receive a grant from the Ford Foundation to complete this work. Our DEI team that has been working on this is joining us to discuss the motivation for this journey, what they’ve learned, implemented, the metrics strategy, and what they are looking forward at into the future of where they can take this work next. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:03:40] Some of the panelists share what their motivation was to embark on this journey. [00:05:27] We hear some things the panelists have learned from looking at the CHAOSS Project and things they’ve been doing to understand what works and where can they improve. [00:08:05] Elizabeth and Matt explain how the group got together and worked to arrive at their findings. [00:10:34] We learn about some easy things they’ve learned and implemented. [00:14:34] Sean dives into the metrics strategy and explains the three categories of metrics, and Matt explains the DEI Badging Program. [00:19:21] The panelists share things they are looking at into the future of where can we take this work next? [00:24:41] Find out where you can learn more if you’re interested in this kind of work they’re doing, as well as learn about new things that are coming up with this group. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:25:43] Georg’s pick is being super happy with how professional the medical field has been keeping people happy. [00:26:36] Ruth’s pick is to always have hard conversations. [00:26:52] Kristi’s pick is she passed the Project Management Professional Certification. [00:27:21] Matt’s pick is he bought his first snow blower. [00:27:54] Sean’s pick is a book called, Algorithms on Strings. [00:28:10] Kafayah’s pick is her plants and a light she found to help them grow during the winter. [00:28:27] Elizabeth’s pick is her favorite team, the Cincinnati Bengals. [00:29:12] Georgia’s pick is a website called, How I Experienced Web Today. Panelists: Georg Link Kristi Progri Selene Yang Georgia Bullen Ruth Ikegah Matt Germonprez Sean Goggins Elizabeth Barron Kafayah Lawal Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ford Foundation (https://www.fordfoundation.org/) CHAOSS Blog Post-DEI Audit 2021 (https://chaoss.community/blog-post/2022/01/28/dei-audit-2021/) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/georglink) Kristi Progri Twitter (https://twitter.com/kristiprogri) Selene Yang (https://wikimediafoundation.org/profile/selene-yang/) Georgia Bullen Twitter (https://twitter.com/georgiamoon?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Matt Germonprez Twitter (https://twitter.com/germ) Sean Goggins Twitter (https://twitter.com/sociallycompute) Kafayah Lawal LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/kafayah-lawal) Elizabeth Barron Twitter (https://twitter.com/elizabethn) Ruth Ikegah Twitter (https://twitter.com/IkegahRuth) CHAOSS Community- Participate (https://chaoss.community/participate/) CHAOSS Community Slack (https://chaoss-workspace.slack.com/join/shared_invite/zt-r65szij9-QajX59hkZUct82b0uACA6g#/shared-invite/email) Algorithms on Strings by Maxime Crochemore, Christophe Hancart, Thierry Lecroq Plant Grow Light (https://www.amazon.com/Yadoker-Growing-Spectrum-Adjustable-Automatic/dp/B08NCR9S1D/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?crid=2V5SLHMJDAWTC&keywords=indoor%2Bplant%2Blight&qid=1643754020&sprefix=indoor%2Bplant%2Blight%2Caps%2C89&sr=8-1-spons&spLa=ZW5jcnlwdGVkUXVhbGlmaWVyPUExV1pQSzdNS1ZYUkg4JmVuY3J5cHRlZElkPUEwNTY5NzIxM0U5RkxENkRLSVg1QyZlbmNyeXB0ZWRBZElkPUEwMzc3MTQwMTEwTU5aU0swWkg1WCZ3aWRnZXROYW1lPXNwX2F0ZiZhY3Rpb249Y2xpY2tSZWRpcmVjdCZkb05vdExvZ0NsaWNrPXRydWU&th=1) Cincinnati Bengals (https://www.bengals.com/) How I Experienced Web Today (https://how-i-experience-web-today.com/)
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are super excited to have as our guest, Avi Press, Founder and CEO of Scarf. Avi tells us all about Scarf, Scarf Gateway, the tools that compliment it, and details how Scarf is helping open source software developers use data effectively. Also, Avi shares something he was surprised about early on with usage of open source projects. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:18] Avi tells us more about his background, what brought him into open source, and what led him to start Scarf. [00:04:13] We learn more how Scarf works and what the tool is collecting. [00:06:44] Kate asks Avi if he’s looking at being able to generate out the software buildable materials and making that available at all or maybe something he’s contemplating. [00:08:18] Avi explains their polices for maintainers and Kate tells us more about a census coming out with people doing scans code that Ari is interested in. [00:14:55] We hear a story about a package that Ari first built called scarf-js on npm. [00:18:00] Sophia wonders from a practical standpoint, how the user experience is so they know they’re interacting with Scarf. [00:20:15] Another question Sophie asks Avi circles back to what a user is, knowing there’s a lot of overlap between activity, new user contributors, and everything in between, and she wonders how that’s handled and the tool. [00:22:10] Avi explains how they encourage maintainers collect usage data. [00:23:54] Avi had mentioned that having insights and data about the usage of open source can help an open source project become more sustainable, and he shares examples that he’s seen already put in place. [00:26:46] Kate asks Avi how he sees what he’s sharing back to the projects differing from the clones out there. [00:28:05] We learn something that surprised Avi early on being the middleman. [00:29:24] Find out where you follow Avi online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:30:12] Georg’s pick is having a proud father moment with his son. [00:30:54] Kate’s pick is Log4j which is helping to really illustrate the need for SBOMs & tracking dependencies. [00:31:26] Sophia’s pick is an electric tea kettle she just acquired. [00:33:05] Avi’s picks are two open source projects that he uses: org-mode and org-roam. Panelists: Georg Link Sophia Vargas Kate Stewart Guest: Avi Press Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Avi Press Website (https://avi.press/) Avi Press Twitter (https://twitter.com/avi_press) Avi Press LinkedIn (https://www.linkedin.com/in/avi-press-4437a356/) Scarf (https://about.scarf.sh/) Scarf Twitter (https://twitter.com/scarf_oss) Scarf-GitHub (https://github.com/scarf-sh) Scarf-js (https://www.npmjs.com/package/@scarf/scarf) Apache Log4j (https://logging.apache.org/log4j/2.x/) Org Mode (https://orgmode.org/) Org-roam (https://www.orgroam.com/) Special Guest: Avi Press.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we have joining us again, Carina Zona, who is the Head of Developer Relations for Toolchain, which is the lead sponsor of Pantsbuild open source project. If you listened to our previous episode, in Part 1 we talked about the Pants community and how it’s been evolving over the last ten years, and there were conversations about some qualitative means of measuring and some culture around growing community. Today’s episode is Part 2, where we get more hands-on with what you can do with data with understanding the community. Also, Carina details about the tools they use to satisfy their data needs, how they organize all the data, and more about Savannah CRM and tagging. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:37] As the Dev Rel person in the community, Carina talks and reports to stakeholders who need different data points, so she explains the data points she looks at and the tools she’s using to satisfy her data needs. [00:06:00] Carina explains how she organizes all the data that comes in from the surveys. [00:10:22] We find out some other ways Carina is using the data, as well as who she reports to and what she reports. [00:12:21] Venia wonders if there are different dashboards and reports that Carina provides to the individuals with completely different key performance indicators. [00:14:43] The topic of tagging in Savannah CRM is brought up and Carina explains what’s in Savannah. [00:20:41] Carina tells us more about the tagging in Savannah and Venia wonders if she’s using the tags in order to bring up and study the comments on a customer sentiment. [00:27:50] Carina shares some advice to other Dev Rels who want to understand the health of their communities and work towards making them more healthy. [00:30:49] Find out where you can follow Carina online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:32:19] Georg’s pick is designing and building a custom home. [00:33:17] Venia’s pick is getting back into doing book clubs this week. [00:33:49] Carina’s pick is having conversations with people that she’s fallen out of touch with during the pandemic. [00:34:55] Armstrong’s pick is the beauty of family and seeing a very good perspective of life. Panelists: Georg Link Venia Logan Armstrong Foundjem Guest: Carina Zona Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Carina C. Zona Website (http://cczona.com/) Carina C. Zona Twitter (https://twitter.com/cczona?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Pantsbuild (https://www.pantsbuild.org/) Pantsbuild Twitter (https://twitter.com/pantsbuild?lang=en) Pantsbuild-GitHub (https://github.com/pantsbuild) Pantsbuild Slack (https://www.pantsbuild.org/docs/getting-help) Pantsbuild Blog (https://blog.pantsbuild.org/) Savannah CRM (https://www.savannahhq.com/) Airtable (https://www.airtable.com/) SurveyMonkey (https://www.surveymonkey.com/) Special Guest: Carina C. Zona.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are super excited to have as our guest, Carina Zona, who is the Head of Developer Relations for Toolchain, which is the lead sponsor of Pantsbuild open source project, as well as the Founder of CallbackWomen. Our discussions take us into Carina sharing her knowledge about some qualitative means of measuring and some culture around growing communities. Her passion has been trying to increase gender diversity in this industry as a side project on top of developer relations, and we learn what she’s been doing to help advocate this. We learn more about the Pants community, what this project is, and Carina tells us about adding the welcome channel on Slack and the quantitative work she’s doing on it using Savannah CRM. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:27] Carina tells us her background and more about her project, CallbackWomen. [00:05:52] The topic of data being self-reinforcing is discussed. Venia wonders how Carina approaches conversations with people who are so metrics focused. [00:12:35] We learn all about the Pants community and what this project is all about. [00:17:28] Carina fills us in on the who makes up the Pants community. [00:21:29] Carina makes a clarification about Pants Build being written as an open source project in Python and the core engine written in Rust, and she speaks more about supporting languages and the effect it will have on who exists in your community. [00:26:09] As the Pants community grows, Venia wonders what Carina has been doing to decide which aspects of that culture are working for the lurkers and silent majority in order to keep it when stakeholders choose to make decisions, and how does she make the decision between what to keep in the culture and what to let go. [00:30:00] Venia wonders if Carina has considered using the welcome channel for purposes of direct measurement, and she goes in depth about how she’s doing quantitative work on it using Savannah CRM. [00:34:19] Armstrong wonders if Carina thinks qualitative findings or evidence will challenge or support quantitative numbers she has. She also explains why the number is not important but what matters is the experience. [00:39:01] Find out where you can follow Carina online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:40:40] Georg’s pick is a new tea pot he bought. [00:41:26] Venia’s pick is finding a therapist that is okay with being online. [00:42:00] Armstrong’s pick is getting selected to be AI chair at OpenInfra Summit Berlin 2022. [00:42:26] Carina’s pick is her new puppy that brings her so much joy. Panelists: Georg Link Venia Logan Armstrong Foundjem Guest: Carina Zona Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Carina C. Zona Website (http://cczona.com/) Carina C. Zona Twitter (https://twitter.com/cczona?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Pantsbuild (https://www.pantsbuild.org/) Pantsbuild Twitter (https://twitter.com/pantsbuild?lang=en) Toolchain (https://toolchain.com/) CallbackWomen (https://www.callbackwomen.com/) CallbackWomen Twitter (https://twitter.com/callbackwomen) Savannah CRM (https://www.savannahhq.com/) OpenInfra Summit Berlin 2022 (https://openinfra.dev/summit/) Special Guest: Carina C. Zona.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we have three amazing guests with us, Amanda Casari, Katie McLaughlin, and John Meluso. Amanda is a Developer Relations Engineer and researcher at Google at the Open Source Programs Office, Katie is a Developer Relations Engineer at Google, and John is the OCEAN Postdoctoral Fellow at the University of Vermont. They are with us to talk about Project OCEAN (Open-Source Complex Ecosystems And Networks), how it came to be, where it is now, and what they hope to accomplish going forward. We also learn more about what they see as an open source ecosystem, and they go in depth about contributions and taxonomy. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:03:44] John, Amanda, and Katie tell us their backgrounds and how they got involved in open source. [00:07:23] We learn more about OCEAN, how it came to be, and where it’s at now. [00:11:25] Amanda and John explain a bit more about ecosystems. [00:15:52] Georg wonders what they have realized early on or over time that they want to make sure everyone who looks at open source takes away from their work. [00:19:59] Amanda brings up a question to the panelists concerning the idea of atomic information around software projects and balancing how much do they keep with a repo versus how do you allow for information to be distributed in many places that many people work, but it doesn’t get lost and you don’t lose somebody’s attribution for the work they do. [00:28:58] Georg brings up the Types of Contributions metrics link CHAOSS uses that helps show how people can contribute to open source, and Katie shares her thoughts on it. [00:32:13] Sophie talks about “Which contributions count? Analysis of attribution in open source” report and what this research explores. John explains how they balance things by varying the kinds of methodologies they use. [00:38:49] Find out where you can follow Amanda, Katie, and John online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:39:45] Georg’s pick is LifeTime wellness and fitness center. [00:40:31] Matt’s pick is places to visit in Colorado: Rocky Mtn. National Park, Great Sand Dunes, and Gunnison National Park. [00:41:08] Sophia’s pick is emergent property. [00:41:57] Amanda’s pick is trading Vermont Golden Dome books with her oldest child. [00:43:10] Katie’s pick is the book, CPython Internals by Anthony Shaw. [00:44:03] John’s pick is the book, Data Feminism by Catherine D’Ignazio and Lauren F. Klein. Request from our Guests: Open Source Folks: Take (and share!) this anonymous survey about receiving credit for tasks in open source! Conducted by researchers at the University of Vermont in partnership with Google Open Source. https://qualtrics.uvm.edu/jfe/form/SV_1zUs19oVcZJ0SPA Panelists: Georg Link Sophia Vargas Matt Germonprez Guests: Amanda Casari Katie McLaughlin John Meluso Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Project OCEAN (https://vermontcomplexsystems.org/partner/OCEAN/) Amanda Casari Twitter (https://twitter.com/amcasari?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Open Source Stories-Amanda Casari Website (https://www.opensourcestories.org/) Amanda Casari Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/amcasari/) Katie McLaughlin Twitter (https://twitter.com/glasnt) Katie McLaughlin Website (https://glasnt.com/) John Meluso Twitter (https://twitter.com/johnmeluso) John Meluso Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jmeluso/) John Meluso, PhD Website (https://www.johnmeluso.com/) John Meluso Email (mailto:john.meluso@uvm.edu) ACROSS Taxonomy-GitHub (https://github.com/google/across) CHAOSS Types of Contributions metrics (https://chaoss.community/metric-types-of-contributions/) Which contributions count? Analysis of attribution in open source-Jean-Gabriel Young, Amanda Casari, Katie McLaughlin, Milo Z. Trujillo, Laurent Hébert-Dufresne, James P. Bagrow (https://arxiv.org/abs/2103.11007) Open source ecosystems need equitable credit across contributions-Amanda Casari, Katie McLaughlin, Milo Z. Trujillo, Jean-Gabriel young, James P. Bagrow, & Laurent Hébert-Dufresne (https://www.nature.com/articles/s43588-020-00011-w) Nadia Eghbal Website (https://nadiaeghbal.com/) Roads and Bridges: The Unseen Labor Behind Our Digital Infrastructure by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.fordfoundation.org/work/learning/research-reports/roads-and-bridges-the-unseen-labor-behind-our-digital-infrastructure/) Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.amazon.com/Working-Public-Making-Maintenance-Software/dp/0578675862) A Place to Hang Your Hat- Leslie Hawthorn’s Hat Rack blog post (https://hawthornlandings.org/2015/02/13/a-place-to-hang-your-hat/) Octohatrack-GitHub (https://github.com/LABHR/octohatrack) A tool for tracking non-code GitHub contributions-Katie McLaughlin (https://opensource.com/life/15/10/octohat-github-non-code-contribution-tracker) Recognize All Contributors (https://allcontributors.org/) CHAOSScast Podcast- Episode 39: Leaderboards and Metrics at Drupal.org with Matthew Tift and Tim Lehnen (https://podcast.chaoss.community/39) LifeTime (https://www.lifetime.life/) Rocky Mountain National Park (https://www.nps.gov/romo/index.htm) Great Sand Dunes (https://www.nps.gov/grsa/index.htm) Black Canyon Of The Gunnison (https://www.nps.gov/blca/index.htm) What Are Emergent Properties? (https://sciencing.com/emergent-properties-8232868.html) Vermont Golden Dome Books (https://libraries.vermont.gov/services/children_and_teens/book_awards/vtgdba) CPython Internals by Andrew Shaw (https://realpython.com/products/cpython-internals-book/) Data Feminism by Catherine D’Ignazio (https://www.amazon.com/Feminism-Strong-Ideas-Catherine-DIgnazio/dp/0262044005/) Special Guests: Amanda Casari, John Meluso, and Katie McLaughlin.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. We are super excited for today’s episode because we are doing a “Year 2021 in Review” with our panel of representatives from the CHAOSS community from all around the world. Joining us today are Georg, Sean, Matt, Willem, Dawn, Nicole, Elizabeth, and Xiaoya. Our panelists tell us their favorite episodes from this year, we hear about new advances in software for CHAOSS Project, things that happened around metrics in CHAOSS, and DEI Badging for Events that was built out this year. Also, we learn more about conversations that happened from this year with metrics models, dependencies, and ethics guidelines. And finally, the panelists share with us where they want to see the CHAOSS Project going in 2022. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:04:35] Find out which episodes are the panelists favorites. [00:08:15] The CHAOSScast Podcast is headed to China and we hear more about it. [00:11:31] Sean fills us in on interesting new advances in software for CHAOSS Project, and Georg tells us more about some things that happened in the Grimoire Lab Project. [00:13:30] We move on to metrics and we hear what’s happened in the CHAOSS community around metrics this year. [00:17:36] Nicole and Matt explain more about the Diversity, Equity, & Inclusion Badging for Events that was built out over this last year. [00:20:55] On the topic of DEI, CHAOSS community did some reflection over the past year and Matt tells us how it went. [00:24:31] Georg highlights three conversations from this year which are metrics models, dependencies, and ethics guidelines. The panelists dive into metrics models and talk more about what they are and what CHAOSS is doing with them. [00:28:59] Sean explains what they learned about the different types of dependencies that we have and the different ways that we can look at them through metrics. [00:30:45] The third topic of ethics of data and metrics is discussed. Georg explains the data policy that was written this year that you find on their website and Matt and Elizabeth share some other things that have been going on with guidance to ethics in how people use metrics. [00:34:45] Georg brings up the Pandemic and COVID, how they finally had their first in-person event this year, and the panelists chime in on how they think it went. [00:37:10] We hear some closing thoughts from the panelists on where they want to see the CHAOSS Project going in 2022. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:44:06] Georg’s pick is taking seven weeks off and spending time with family. [00:44:39] Dawn’s pick is Elekto. [00:45:31] Sean’s pick is spending time with his Mother who will be visiting. [00:46:34] Elizabeth’s pick is a Reese’s pie size cup that Hershey’s released. [00:47:36] Nicole’s pick is the ClicBot programmable robot. [00:48:16] Xiaoya’s pick is the CHAOSScast China Podcast. [00:48:44] Willem’s pick is an article about “The social contract of open source.” [00:49:52] Matt’s pick is his Border Collie dog. Panelists: Georg Link Sean Goggins Matt Germonprez Willem Jiang Dawn Foster Nicole Huesman Elizabeth Barron Xiaoya Xia Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 34: Anniversary Episode with Georg, Dawn, Matt, Sophia, Elizabeth (https://podcast.chaoss.community/34) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 37: The Orbit Model with Patrick Wood (https://podcast.chaoss.community/37) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 43: Growing the CHAOSS Community Globally-with Xiaoya, Willem, King, and Clement (https://podcast.chaoss.community/43) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 39: Leaderboards and Metrics at Drupal.org with Matthew Tift and Tim Lehnen (https://podcast.chaoss.community/39) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 45: Fireside Chat: Metrics Strategy with Daniel, Sean, and Venia (https://podcast.chaoss.community/45) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 38: Co.Lab and Increasing Diversity in STEM with Ruth Suehle (https://podcast.chaoss.community/38) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 44: GSOC: M.A.R.S. Project- Metrics Automated Release System with Yash and Ritik (https://podcast.chaoss.community/44) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 47: Writing the GrimoireLab Tutorial through the Summer of Open Source Promotion Plan with Veerasamy Sevagen (https://podcast.chaoss.community/47) CHAOSScast Project-Episode 27: GSOD with Xiaoya & Jaskirat (https://podcast.chaoss.community/27) DEI Badging for Events-GitHub (https://github.com/badging/event-diversity-and-inclusion) Elekto (https://elekto.dev/) REESE’S Pie (https://shop.hersheys.com/candy-types/new%21/REES-008601-1.html) ClicBot (https://www.amazon.com/ClicBot-Educational-Programming-Control-Starter/dp/B08GK7V5ZG?th=1) The social contract of open source-Tall, Snarky Canadian (https://snarky.ca/the-social-contract-of-open-source/) Border Collie (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Border_Collie) CHAOSScast China Podcast (https://www.ximalaya.com/keji/54433824/) Special Guests: Willem Jiang and Xiaoya Xia.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are very excited to have two guests joining us, Anita Sarma and Iftekhar Ahmed. Anita is a Professor of Computer Science at Oregon State University and Iftekhar is an Assistant Professor at University of California, Irvine. They are here to talk about creating appreciative communities and implicit mentoring. We learn more about what socio-technical means, metrics to look at or use to understand if we’re on the right track, and some important things they learned from their research. Also, Anita and Iftekhar share their thoughts on how they see implicit mentoring and creating appreciative communities fitting together. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:01:55] Anita and Iftekhar give us a brief introduction of who they are and their backgrounds. [00:04:10] Georg speaks about the importance of creating quality software and how there’s more to it than testing the software and having reviews, and we learn more about what socio-technical means. [00:10:27] We find out some important things from Anita what they’ve learned from their research. [00:15:15] With open source growing so much over the past five to seven years, Sean asks Iftekhar how that has influenced this socio-technical system of testing and quality assurance in open source software. [00:18:49] Iftekhar and Anita explain the phenomenon behind projects that achieve a certain level of success which leads to additional demands on it. [00:22:25] We learn more about what implicit mentoring means. [00:28:39] Anita tells more about the research they did with pull request comments and what they found out in their initial work with interviews. [00:31:14] Anita shares what she’s learned about implicit mentoring and she gives advice on metrics we could use to look at or use to understand if we’re on the right track. [00:34:44] Sean asks Anita if explicit mentoring is trying to help people be successful, and if it’s a perspective of helpfulness compared to a perspective of critique. [00:37:26] Anita and Iftekhar share their thoughts on how they see implicit mentoring and creating appreciative communities fitting together. [00:42:34] Find out where you can follow Anita and Iftekhar’s work online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:44:03] Georg’s pick is he’s going out of town with his family for a wedding and getting to explore Washington D.C. [00:44:46] Anita’s pick is she is super excited to go on a sabbatical. [00:45:34] Iftekhar’s pick is his three-month old son and the sounds he makes which is the highlight of his day. [00:46:01] Sean’s pick is celebrating Thanksgiving and watching the Macy’s Thanksgiving Day parade and football. Quote: [00:12:13] “You have to be participating if you need to get reviews back, and I don’t remember the exact statistic, but I think the largest proportion of people stop contributing because they did not get the feedback. The feedback was very delayed and by the time they got the feedback that issue or task was already done by someone else.” Panelists: Georg Link Sean Goggins Guests: Anita Sarma Iftekhar Ahmed Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Anita Sarma-Oregon State University (http://web.engr.oregonstate.edu/~sarmaa/) Anita Sarma Twitter (https://mobile.twitter.com/asarma) Anita Sarma email (mailto:anitasarma@oregonstate.edu) Iftekhar Ahmed-University of California, Irvine (https://www.ics.uci.edu/~iftekha/) Iftekhar Ahmed Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/iftekharahmed1/) Iftekhar Ahmed Twitter (https://twitter.com/iftekhar_ahmedi) Iftekhar Ahmed email (mailto:iftekha@uci.edu) Special Guests: Anita Sarma and Iftekhar Ahmed.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we have as our guest Sevagen, who worked with us on the Summer of Open Source Promotion Plan. We find out more about this program and more specifically Sevagen’s project, which was to revamp the GrimoireLab Tutorial, as well as an explanation of two major difficulties they faced for the project. We also learn how the mentors helped, the current status of the tutorial, Sevagen’s future plans, and what he’s learned from this program. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues! [00:02:15] Sevagen tells us a little bit about himself. [00:03:06] Xiaoya fills us in on what the Summer of Open Source Promotion Plan is and Venu tells us about the goal of the project. [00:06:01] We hear how Sevagen heard about the Summer of Open Source Promotion Plan and how he became involved and decided to work with CHAOSS? [00:07:30] Sevagen explains what his initial understanding of the project was, the tutorial, and two major difficulties they faced. [00:12:47] Xiaoya shares her experience in the process of reviewing the tutorial. [00:14:29] We learn more about how mentors helped Sevagen. [00:16:47] Georg asks what the current status is of the tutorial and if there are any next steps that are still to follow. [00:19:13] Sevagen shares his future plans and what he wants to do, as well as what he’s learned being in this program. [00:22:18] Find out where you follow Sevagen online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:23:04] Georg’s pick is the book series, Famous Five by Enid Blyton. * [00:24:01] Xiaoya’s pick is the Disney animation, Tangled. * [00:24:27] Venu’s pick is OpenSearch. * [00:24:46] Sevagen’s pick is the amFOSS Club. Panelists: * Georg Link * Venu Tekula * Xiaoya Xia Guest: * Veerasamy Sevagen Sponsor: * SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: * CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) * CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) * CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) * podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) * Summer 2021 of Open Source Promotion Plan (https://summer.iscas.ac.cn/help/en/) * Veerasamy Sevagen Twitter (https://twitter.com/SevagenV) * Veerasamy Sevagen Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/veerasamy-sevagen/) * sevagenv@gmail.com (mailto:sevagenv@gmail.com) * CHAOSS GrimoireLab Tutorial-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss/grimoirelab-tutorial/tree/tesseract) * Famous Five Collection by Enid Blyton * Tangled (https://movies.disney.com/tangled) * OpenSearch (https://opensearch.org/) * amFOSS (https://amfoss.in/) Special Guests: Veerasamy Sevagen, Venu Tekula, and Xiaoya Xia.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, our guest is Erin Staples, who works as a Community Advocate at Orbit. She is with us to talk about social science theories and what we can learn from other communities. Erin tells us the importance of making sure your contributors feel valued, creating a very inclusive, mindful environment online, and she explains how we can learn a lot from how Fandom communities measure health. She goes in depth about behaviors at gatherings such as conferences and she shares advice in creating online spaces. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues. [00:02:00] Erin fills us in a little on her background and about what they do at Orbit with building a healthy community in the online space. [00:03:38] How did Erin get so interested in this topic? [00:05:33] For the social science conversation and Fandom, Erin talks about how she started to explore this huge topic. She tells us about a journal article she loves from Rachel Winter, Anastasia Salter, and Mel Stanfill who wrote about the “Communities of making: Exploring parallels between Fandom and open source.” [00:09:02] Erin explains more about the behaviors and how they happen at gatherings and in the Fandom world. [00:13:30] Georg brings up how open source is changing and has changed over the years with more organizations getting involved in creation of software and paying employees to be in these communities and Erin shares her thoughts about how this may be changing the dynamic. The Founder of Linux, Linus Torvalds, comes up in conversation as well. [00:19:47] Venia tells us about a website called Budget Light Forum and Erin talks about “the medium is the message,” which is a quote from Marshall McLuhan and how this relates to the way we think about online spaces and how we transmit information. [00:24:44] Georg brings up a great point if you want to understand the community you actually have to talk to the community members and ask them how that makes them feel, if they feel welcome and included, etc., and Erin and Venia share their thoughts on this. [00:28:11] As more people are working online, maintainer burnout in open source is discussed, which existed before COVID, with pressure to maintain the quality of code and for being responsive and they’re not feeling appreciated. [00:30:41] Erin talks about some action steps to creating online spaces and shares an example of the Dunning-Kruger effect. [00:32:04] Find out where you can follow Erin online. Adds (Picks) of the week: * [00:32:46] Georg’s pick is re-reading the Eragon series in English. * [00:33:38] Venia’s pick is a book called Systematic Methods for Analyzing Culture: A Practical Guide. * [00:34:22] Erin’s pick is a book called A City is Not a Computer: Other Urban Intelligences. Panelists: * Georg Link * Venia Logan Guest: * Erin Staples Sponsor: * SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: * CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) * CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) * CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) * podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) * Erin Staples Twitter (https://twitter.com/erinmikail) * Erin Staples Website (https://blog.erinmikailstaples.com/home/) * Erin Staples Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/erinmikail) * Orbit (https://orbit.love/) * Fandom (https://www.fandom.com/) * Communities of making: Exploring parallels between fandom and open source by Rachel Winter, Anastasia Salter, and Mel Stanfill (https://journals.uic.edu/ojs/index.php/fm/article/view/10870/10056) * Fans, at their core, are producers. What does this tell us about the ethics of fan labor?- Fandom Communties 002 (https://blog.erinmikailstaples.com/fans-at-their-core-are-producers-what-does-this-tells-us-about-the-ethics-of-fan-labor/) * Budget Light Forum (https://budgetlightforum.com/) * Become a Tea Duellist By Austin Sirkin (Steampunk R&D) (https://steampunk.wonderhowto.com/how-to/become-tea-duellist-0140892/) * Herbert Marshall McLuhan (Wikipedia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marshall_McLuhan) * Margaret Mead (Wikipedia) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Margaret_Mead) * Dunning-Kruger effect (Psychology Today) (https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/basics/dunning-kruger-effect) * Ted 2016: Linux founder not a ‘people person’ By Jane Wakefield (BBC News) (https://www.bbc.com/news/technology-35599774) * Linus Torvalds apologizes for his behavior, takes time off (Hacker News) (https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=18000698) * The Inheritance Cycle Series 4 Book Collection Eragon, Eldestk, Brisngr Box set by Christoper Paolini * Systematic Methods for Analyzing Culture: A Practical Guide by H.J. François * Dengah II, Jeffrey Snodgrass, Evan R. Polzer, William Cody Nixon * A City is Not a Computer: Other Urban Intelligences by Shannon Mattern * The Sims: A Retrospective, A Participatory Culture 14 Years On by Ludovica Price (Intensive: Cult Media Review) (https://intensitiescultmedia.files.wordpress.com/2014/08/5-price-the-sims2.pdf) Special Guest: Erin Staples.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. On today’s episode, we are discussing the pitfalls of metrics since there are a lot of things that can go wrong when implementing your metrics from getting over the feeling of being lost in the data. Also, we’ll be talking about a variety of different communities from very small all the way to larger ones. Daniel and Sean share some frameworks they have found work really well for building and deciding metrics, and how metrics are assessed to make sure whether or not they are still relevant. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast on your favorite podcast app and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues. [00:02:43] The conversation starts by talking about what goes wrong when people start to build a lot of metrics, and what are some pitfalls or issues that we can maybe solve later. [00:08:19] Daniel and Sean talk about the concept of commit and give a use case example. [00:11:42] Venia brings up a common issue they tend to have following with gamification is not just the concerted effort to gamify the analytics and the stacks the second they become public and Daniel and Sean expand on that. [00:17:55] Daniel and Sean share some frameworks that they have found work really well for building and deciding metrics, for building policies that ensure that those occur, and a good framework for benchmarking over time so that you can measure and change your metric strategy as you communities grow. [00:23:00] The topic of goals is expanded on by Venia, and she talks about recognizing that sometimes simple is better and she mentions what goals you want to consider. [00:28:25] We’re talking about the “M” in the GQM (goal, question, metric) process and Sean and Daniel give us their recommendations on how you go about based on one specific question, picking out a suite of metrics that might explain that, and if is there one specific key performance indicator and a few descriptors or if you just select three main metrics. [00:33:21] Venia wonders how we navigate and start that conversation to wrap in the organizational aspects in the course of your metrics building journey. [00:39:09] We learn how are metrics are checked to make sure that the metrics makes sense and the ways they are they assessed whether or not they are still relevant. Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:45:29] Daniel’s pick is a book called, The Culture Map, Decoding How People Think, Lead, and Get Things Done Across Cultures by Erin Meyer. [00:46:49] Sean’s pick is a book called, Big Data Baseball: Math, Miracles, and the End of a 20-Year Losing Streak by Travis Sawchik. [00:48:54] Venia’s pick is building a small, intimate community of learning and creating her own information diet book club. Panelists: Venia Logan Sean Goggins Daniel Izquierdo Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Bitergia (https://bitergia.com/) The Culture Map- Decoding How People Think, Lead, and Get Things Done Across Cultures by Erin Meyer Big Data Baseball: Math, Miracles, and the End of a 20-Year Losing Streak by Travis Sawchik
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring and improving open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we have with us Yash and Ritik, who are two students that worked with us this summer with the Google Summer of Code 2021, on automating the CHAOSS Metric Release. We are going to discuss the CHAOSS M.A.R.S. Project and learn all about what it is and what problem it solves. They also go in depth about the process of releasing the metrics, as well as how they went about doing the Translations of CHAOSS metrics. Yash and Ritik also share what their favorite part of the experience was participating in Google Summer of Code in the CHAOSS Project. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues. [00:02:13] Yash and Ritik tell us a little bit about themselves and what they’re doing outside and within CHAOSS. We also learn how they heard about the CHAOSS project and how they got interested in the Google Summer of Code program. [00:05:10] Find out more about the M.A.R.S. (Metrics Automated Release System) Project and what the connection was with the Google Summer of Code. [00:08:43] Ritik goes into detail how they solve the problem with M.A.R.S., how it works, and the components involved, which now, it’s as simple as a click of a button! Ritik and Yash also tells us how they had to consider the work of the community and how the working groups within those repositories worked and the structures they had to follow, as well as the connection and technical components with the M.A.R.S. Project. [00:15:16] Georg talks about the goals of Google Summer of Code, one of which is to bring in people to open source communities and show them the way this works. He talks about the strengths that Ritik and Yash had and why they were selected as students. [00:16:30] Ritik and Yash let us know if anything has changed for them in terms of how they think about open source engagement. [00:19:04] What are Ritik and Yash’s future plans? [00:20:52] Kevin brings up a point about through the M.A.R.S. Project and how the work helped define the process with translating the metrics into different languages. Matt and Yash share some thoughts on this as well. [00:22:27] Georg tells us about the community handbook you can look at if you’re interested in the process, and the CHAOSS Metric Quality Checklist as well. Yash tells us how this checklist came about, the hurdles along the way, and what he’s learned. [00:26:10] Ritik and Yash tell us their favorite part about the Google Summer of Code experience in the CHAOSS Project. [00:29:18] Find out where you can follow Yash and Ritik online. Value Adds of the week: [00:30:06] Georg’s pick is bark.us. [00:31:38] Kevin’s pick is listening to music. [00:32:31] Matt’s pick is helping with his son’s college recruiting trips. [00:33:12] Yash’s pick is to enjoy your work and take breaks! [00:33:52] Ritik’s pick is Snooker tricks. Panelists: Georg Link Matt Germonprez Kevin Lumbard Guests: Yash Prakash Ritik Malik Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Yash Prakash Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/yash-prakash-yp/) Ritik Malik Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ritik-malik-406/) Ritik Malik Blog (https://ritik18406.medium.com/) CHAOSS M.A.R.S. (Metrics Automated Release System) (https://github.com/chaoss/MARS/) CHAOSS Community Handbook-Translation (https://handbook.chaoss.community/community-handbook/community-initiatives/metrics/translation) CHAOSS Metric Quality Checklist-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss/metrics/blob/master/resources/checklist-quality.md) bark (https://www.bark.us/) Snooker (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Snooker) Special Guests: Kevin Lumbard, Ritik Malik, and Yash Prakash.
Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring and improving open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are super excited to have four guests who are here to highlight work that is happening in the CHAOSS Project in the Asia Pacific Region. We have Xiaoya Xia, Willem Jiang, King Gao, and Clement Li joining us. Today, we learn each of them do with the CHAOSS Project in the Asia Pacific Region. Also, we find out how it got started and what’s bringing people in. They go in depth explaining the value that CHAOSS metrics provides and share stories about different metrics they found valuable in how they understand project health and how they’re using metrics. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues. [00:01:23] Xiaoya, Willem, King, and Clement introduce themselves, and what they do with the CHAOSS Project. [00:06:43] Georg wonders how this Asian Pacific Community got started around the CHAOSS Project, what were the drivers, and what’s bringing people in. [00:13:55] The guests talk more about the value that CHAOSS metrics provides and what CHAOSS needs to do to make it even more valuable to them or in their use case. [00:16:28] Georg wonders at what stage does which metric come in and what does it actually tell us about how the software development is going. [00:20:12] A few stories are shared by the guests about metrics they found valuable in how they understand project health and how they’re using metrics. [00:23:43] Xiaoya talks about a research topic that was in her lab about Open-source governance and why her mentor encouraged her to learn more about metrics in CHAOSS, and she mentions the GitHub Insight Report she posted on the blog posts. She also talks about the first working group she participated with most and where she learned what a community is. [00:25:35] King shares his experience with metrics and the CHAOSS Community. [00:27:37] Find out where you follow and connect with each of our guests on the internet. Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:30:20] Georg’s pick is a new bed. [00:30:36] Xiaoya’s picks are good luck with her paper, to slow down, and her proposal for CHAOSScon got accepted. [00:31:36] Willem’s picks are ApacheCon Asia 2021 and a book called From the Soil. [00:32:46] King’s pick is everyone helping him to improve his English to communicate better. [00:33:32] Clement’s pick is the release of the community AI robot in September. Panelist: Georg Link Guests: Xiaoya Xia King Gao Clement Li Willem Jiang Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Huawei Joins The Governing Board Of The OpenChain Project (https://www.openchainproject.org/featured/2021/08/17/huawei-openchain-board) CHAOSScast podcast-Episode 27-GSOD with Xiaoya & Jaskirat (https://podcast.chaoss.community/27) CHAOSS Shanghai Meetup-2020 (https://chaoss.community/shanghai-meetup-2020/) Add new metrics for Mapping between PR/MRs and issues #382 wg evolution (https://github.com/chaoss/wg-evolution/issues/382) Add new Metrics about branch lifecycle #368 wg evolution (https://github.com/chaoss/wg-evolution/issues/368) CHAOSS Community Blog Post-Check Out The GitHub 2020 Digital Insight Report! By Xiaoya (https://chaoss.community/blog-post/2021/04/06/xlab-2020-digital-insight-report/) CHAOSSCon 2021 (https://chaoss.community/CHAOSScon-2021-NA/) ApacheCon Asia 2021 (https://www.apachecon.com/acasia2021/) From the Soil by Xiaotong Fei (https://www.ucpress.edu/book/9780520077966/from-the-soil) Xiaoya Xia Twitter (https://twitter.com/esther04734757) King Gao GitHub (https://github.com/king-gao/king-gao.github.io) King Gao Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/%E7%90%A8%EF%BC%88king%EF%BC%89-%E9%AB%98-1b6717b5/) Clement Li Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/ClementLi1987) Clement Li Twitter (https://twitter.com/lazy_lz?lang=en) Clement Li Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/clement-li-6b4b9947/) Willem Jiang’s Blog (https://willemjiang.github.io/) Willem Jiang Twitter (https://twitter.com/willemjiang) Willem Jiang Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jiangning/) WeChat-xiaoyaesther (Xiaoya) WeChat-xiaokun774780 (King Gao) WeChat-ALC Beijing Special Guests: Clement Li, King Gao, Willem Jiang, and Xiaoya Xia.
CHAOSScast – Episode 42 Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring and improving open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. We are super excited to have as our guest, Josh Simmons, who is President of the Open Source Initiative and Ecosystem Strategy Lead at Tidelift. Today, we will be talking with Josh all about Open Source Foundations and the topic of “Hidden Infrastructure” which is very relevant to community health. We learn from Josh the major challenges he sees to open source foundations sustainability and foundational sustainability in corporations. Also, there is a big discussion with everyone as each of them share their opinions about the health of projects and foundations and how they would asses that. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues. [00:02:42] Josh explains the topic of “Hidden Infrastructure-The Foundations of Open Source.” [00:05:24] Brian asks Josh what he sees as some of the major challenges that he sees to open source foundations sustainability. [00:08:43] Daniel wonders where Josh sees the balance between growing and growing as a foundation or being more of a smaller foundation but really focused on providing those services to the projects. [00:14:10] Josh goes more in depth about foundational sustainability in corporations. [00:24:54] There is discussion with everyone about the health of projects and foundations and how you would assess that. [00:35:35] Daniel brings up development tools, some might not be open source that are being used, and there might be changes in the service quality, and he asks Josh if this is an issue we should be aware of or take care of. [00:38:42] Daniel tells us about how they analyzed software development projects at GrimoireLab, which is part of CHAOSS Project, and what happened. [00:39:55] Find out where you can get in touch with Josh and follow him online. Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:40:29] Georg’s picks are the answer to the “Ultimate Question of Life, the Universe, and Everything,” and his birthday coming up August 27th. [00:41:34] Brian’s pick is being excited about the OSPO.Zone from the new Open Alliance in the EU. [00:42:22] Daniel’s pick is taking a course on Business Anthropology. [00:43:02] Josh’s pick is a project called OCEAN + ACROSS. Panelists: Georg Link Brian Proffitt Daniel Izquierdo Guest: Josh Simmons Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Joshua Simmons Website (https://joshsimmons.com/) Josh Simmons Twitter (https://twitter.com/joshsimmons) Josh Simmons Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/joshsimmons) Checklist for measuring the health of an open source project-Red Hat (https://www.redhat.com/en/resources/open-source-project-health-checklist) GitHub Sponsors (https://github.com/sponsors) Open Collective (https://opencollective.com/) Software Freedom Conservancy (https://sfconservancy.org/) The Apache Software Foundation (https://www.apache.org/) The Linux Foundation (https://www.linuxfoundation.org/) Mozilla (https://foundation.mozilla.org/en/) Greg Kroah-Hartman bans University of Minnesota from Linux development for deliberately buggy patches (ZD Net article) (https://www.zdnet.com/article/greg-kroah-hartman-bans-university-of-minnesota-from-linux-development-for-deliberately-buggy-patches/) Mozilla-Firefox Browser (https://www.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/new/) Django changes its governance (LWN.net article) (https://lwn.net/Articles/815838/) CHAOSS Types of Contributions (https://chaoss.community/metric-types-of-contributions/) The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy (Movie) (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0371724/) The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams OSPO.Zone (https://ospo.zone/) Amanda Casari Twitter (for Project OCEAN + ACROSS) (https://twitter.com/amcasari/status/1417836786085208064) Special Guest: Josh Simmons.
CHAOSScast – Episode 41 Hello and welcome to CHAOSScast Community podcast, where we share use cases and experiences with measuring and improving open source community health. Elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software, or short CHAOSS Project, to wherever you like to listen. Today, we are super excited to have as our guests, Vladimir Filkov and Likang Yin. Vladimir is a Professor of Computer Science at the University of California, Davis, as well as a Data Scientist and a Software Engineer. Likang is a third year PhD student at UC-Davis working with Professor Vladimir Filkov. They are joining us to talk about their research into forecasting sustainability of open source communities. Also, we learn about the challenges they faced, how they overcame them, how they are expanding their research to engage the community more, and what their goal is. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues. [00:02:01] Vladimir and Likang introduce themselves and tell us what they do. [00:03:33] Vladimir tells us what his motivation was to look at open source sustainability. [00:05:45] Sophia asks Vladimir how he thinks about the concept of sustainability since there are a lot of elements associated with that term. Sean asks if it’s binary in the sense that you get out of the incubator alive or you don’t. Vladimir talks about how the ASF is working with them. [00:09:54] Vladimir and Likang talk about what their project covered and the key observations they had. We also find what they mean by Socio-technical and how they are thinking about what a Socio-technical system is. [00:13:25] At CHAOSS, one thing they are talking about is recognizing all types of contributions, and Likang and Vladimir give their perspective on this and tell us about their mailing list. Also, learn what they found out and what’s predicting sustainability. [00:16:17] Find out what LSTM means and what kind of modeling it is. [00:20:20] Sean asks Vladimir to explain better what all this means to him as a Software Developer deciding on what open source project to contribute to or to him as a person trying to incubate a project and how these methods are helping so he can see it more clearly and explain it to his mom. Vladimir tells us the “Four Myths of Sustainability.” [00:23:02] Sophia wants to know more about the assumptions of the people themselves and asks Vladimir if there’s a step before he starts finding his groups of people and if there’s any understanding of individual characteristics, motivation, or incentive that could also dictate the progression of that project. [00:24:49] Sophia asks Vladimir how he normalizes for different kinds of governance models or if they’re all the same because they’re part of the incubator program. She also wonders how he’s addressing differences in size and whether or not it makes sense to model certain size groups of projects and how he’s handling that in Europe. [00:29:25] Sean wonders when Vladimir thinks about groups, does he think about cognition and awareness of a group or does he think about other things. [00:31:55] We learn about the challenges that Vladimir and Likang faced and how they overcame them. Also, we learn about their research and how they are expanding it to engage the community more, and what their goal is. [00:40:13] Georg asks for Vladimir’s perspective on what he sees CHAOSS as a project providing now, where does he think CHAOSS should go in the future as a project, and what can they do to support their work. [00:44:10] Find out where you can follow Vladimir and Likang online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week: [00:45:33] Georg’s pick is going with his family to their first concert since the pandemic to see Lindsey Stirling. [00:45:58] Vladimir’s pick is outdoor movie theaters. [00:46:27] Sophia’s pick is discovering that a new smartphone case makes for a great draw organizer. [00:47:06] Sean’s pick is going to two concerts in the Fall, Wilco & Sleater-Kinney in August and Alanis Morissette, Garbage, and Liz Phair in September. [00:47:41] Likang’s pick is he discovered a better way to balance his sleep cycle. Panelists: Georg Link Sophia Vargas Sean Goggins Guests: Vladimir Filkov Likang Yin Sponsor: SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) The Apache Software Foundation (ASF) (https://www.apache.org/) ApacheCon (https://www.apachecon.com/) Long short-term memory (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Long_short-term_memory) Vladimir Filkov Twitter (https://twitter.com/vlfilkov?lang=en) filkov@cs.ucdavis.edu (mailto:filkov@cs.ucdavis.edu) Likang Yin Twitter (https://twitter.com/LikangYin) Likang Yin Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/likangyin/) Sustainability Forecasting for Apache Incubator Projects by Likang Yin, Qi Xuan, Zhuangzhi Chen, and Vladimir Filkov (https://arxiv.org/pdf/2105.14252.pdf) Latent social structure in open source projects (https://dl.acm.org/doi/10.1145/1453101.1453107) Lindsey Stirling (https://www.lindseystirling.com/) Wilco (https://wilcoworld.net/) Sleater-Kinney (http://www.sleater-kinney.com/) Special Guests: Likang Yin and Vladimir Filkov.
Panelists Georg Link | Nicole Huesman Guest Terrence Chen Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes Today, we are excited to have as our guest, Terrence Chen, Software Developer for over 15 years, and the sole creator of GitSense, which focuses on providing software development metrics that both leaders and developers can get behind. Terrence tells us all about GitSense and what led to the creation of it. We learn about Developers First Metrics and the three principles it’s based on, and we find out more about The Hierarchy of Data Needs pyramid as Terrence goes through his funding journey. Download this episode now to find out much more, and don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues. [00:02:08] Terrence shares his background and what led to the creation of GitSense. [00:03:04] We learn what motivates Terrence to get up in the morning, how he thinks about metrics, and he tells us about Developers First Metrics and explains the three principles. [00:08:09] Georg asks Terrence to talk more about the How and Why of the three principles, and the importance of context matters. [00:14:50] Nicole asks Terrence how we measure the quality of contributions, even outside of code, since there are so many different skillsets and contributions coming in so many different forms. [00:18:31] Georg asks Terrence if he has built other things in GitSense that he is super proud of that we can learn from, and hopefully get to see if other tools are being adopted as well. We learn more about a pyramid that became famous in the data science world called, The Hierarchy of Data Needs. [00:24:48] Terrence explains more about the pyramid and the ability to clean and pre-process the data. [00:26:20] Nicole asks Terrence to talk more about how he addresses not using data nefariously and ensuring that it is used for good and not guarding against not using it. [00:35:27] Georg shares some thoughts on Terrence’s comments he made about creating a connections graph that shows open source contributions. [00:37:14] Find out where you can connect with Terrence online. Adds (Picks) of the week [00:37:56] Georg’s pick is the app for learning languages, Duolingo. [00:38:45] Nicole’s pick is watching the movie, _A League of Their Own, _with her son. [00:39:30] Terrence’s pick is to talk, learn new things, and to share what he’s learned. Quotes [00:04:16] “Which is why I’m very much focused on what I call a Developer First Metrics. Honestly, it’s based on three principles and I would love CHAOSS and others to adopt it. Developers First Metrics is pretty much can I answer quickly how and why? So, if you’re going to use metrics make sure you can explain how and why. The second aspect of developer metrics is, make sure it’s useful. Can a developer use developer metrics on a day-to-day basis, because it’s one thing to use it as organization, and it’s another thing to use it to judge developers, and it’s another thing to have a tool that actually, this is what I can use on a day-to-day basis as a developer. That’s the second principle. And the third principle honestly is transparency, like how easily can I verify that these numbers are correct.” Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) GitSense (https://gitsense.com/) terrchen@gitsense.com (mailto:terrchen@gitsense.com) The Data Science Hierarchy Of Needs (https://medium.com/hackernoon/the-ai-hierarchy-of-needs-18f111fcc007) Duolingo (https://www.duolingo.com/) _A League of Their Own (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0104694/) _ SustainOSS Working Groups (https://sustainoss.org/working-groups/) Special Guest: Terrence Chen.
Panelists Georg Link | Nicole Huesman | Sean Goggins Guests Tim Lehnen | Matthew Tift Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes Today, we are lucky to have two representatives from the Drupal community. Our two guests are Tim Lehnen, CTO of the Drupal Association, and Matthew Tift, Lead Engineer at Lullabot, who has been involved in the Drupal Project since 2010. They are here today to talk about who contributes to open source and how do we understand this in the Drupal Community. We also learn the meaning behind Tim and Matthew’s catchphrases, “Build a better picture of how open source gets built” and “Building a better understanding of corporate citizenship in open source.” Download this episode now to find out much more! Don’t forget to subscribe for free to this podcast and share this podcast with your friends and colleagues. [00:02:13] Tim and Matthew introduce themselves and tell us what they do and how they got into the Drupal community. [00:06:18] Tim and Matthew talk about what the Drupal community is doing to really be this community that it is today. [00:13:14] Nicole wonders how Tim and Matthew go about putting a pulse on who’s contributing from a non-code perspective, and if there are ways that they surface these contributors either through reports or other ways. They talk about the mechanics of what they do. [00:18:43] Tim talks about one of the key considerations of the initial design is wanting to avoid giving people too much paperwork, and Tim tells us the two catchphrases they came up. [00:20:15] Matt talks about an analysis that he did with Dries Buytaert called, “Who sponsors Drupal development?” [00:25:16] Tim talks about two points that were brought up by Matt and Nicole earlier about the value of understanding who gets paid to the work and the different roles and historically unnoticed roles in open source. [00:28:24] We learn more about what we can do with the data when we capture it really well. Tim talks about the cool data they gathered and what they did with it, and the experiment they are trying out at the Drupal Association. [00:38:43] Georg asks Tim how the issue tracker is being used and how has that collaboration shaping up there. [00:49:16] Nicole asks if Tim and Matthew if they report out on the diversity of the Drupal community and if they’ve seen upticks or changes. [00:52:24] Find out where you can follow Tim and Matthew and their work online. They also share advice for communities that want to adopt a system and resources or any starting points. Quotes [00:17:25] “It’s organizing these different events, it’s writing a blog, it’s all of these different things that we do to, it’s the so what who cares, it’s the translating the lines of code into, you know at heart I’m a storyteller, so it’s really translating these lines of code into why is that important to our broader world.” [00:19:48] “Building a better picture of how open source gets built” and “Building a better understanding of corporate citizenship in open source,” were two of our sort of like catch phrases.” [00:31:57] “So if your organization sponsors a lot of people’s time you get to come up right on top of the list, you get more business and leads, you’re rewarded for sponsoring your developers to work on the project, and that encourages you to do it more.” [00:38:08] “Nobody in our community wants people to feel bad, so we’re trying to tweak this. We’re trying to work on our algorithms, our marketplace page as a committee that could probably talk about that studying this.” [00:42:12] “So, we have our contribution recognition committee which has access to what the true weights are. We don’t publish the exact numbers of those variables because gaming the system is something you have to look out for and manage and review periodically.” [00:44:48] “And I think for me, there is still the sense that you can use these data in different kinds of ways and one of them is to sort of rank people. And I think in another way, one of the more interesting views is to kind of understand the diversity of the community, to try and understand what sort of initiatives are important to organizations, and what initiatives are important to say, volunteers.” Adds (Picks) of the week [00:53:51] Georg’s pick is the Nebraska Passport Program. [00:54:38] Nicole’s pick is traveling to Massachusetts and Maine with her son this summer. [00:55:27] Sean’s pick is a book called, The Art of Doing Science and Engineering: Learning to Learn _by Richard W. Hamming. _ [00:55:57] Tim’s pick is working with his brother on building a PC Case Mod with custom water cooling, and it’s NASA themed. [00:56:44] Matthew’s pick is a book called, Invisible Women: Exposing Data Bias _in a World Designed for Men _by Caroline Criado Perez. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Matthew Tift Website (https://matthewtift.com/) Matthew Tift Twitter (https://twitter.com/matthewtift) Matthew Tift Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewtift) Matthew.tift@lullabot.com (mailto:matthew.tift@lullabot.com) Tim Lehnen-Drupal (https://www.drupal.org/u/hestenet) Tim Lehnen Twitter (https://twitter.com/timlehnen) Tim Lehnen Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/hestenet/) tim@association.drupal.org (mailto:tim@association.drupal.org) Drupal (https://www.drupal.org/) Lullabot (https://www.lullabot.com/) Drupal Contribution Credit (https://www.drupal.org/drupalorg/contribution-credit) OpenStack Diversity Report (https://superuser.openstack.org/articles/2018-gender-diversity-report/) “Who sponsors Drupal development?” (2019-2020 edition) (https://dri.es/who-sponsors-drupal-development-2020) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 20-CHAOSS + FINOS: Lessons Learned with Rob Underwood (https://podcast.chaoss.community/20) GitLab issue, proposing to add the Drupal system-Tim Lehnen (https://gitlab.com/gitlab-org/gitlab/-/issues/327138) Drupal Diversity & Inclusion (https://www.drupaldiversity.com/) Nebraska Passport Program (https://nebraskapassport.com/) The Art of Doing Science and Engineering: Learning to Learn by Richard W. Hamming Invisible Women: Exposing Data Bias in a World Designed for Men by Caroline Criado Perez (https://www.penguin.com.au/books/invisible-women-9781784706289) Special Guests: Matthew Tift and Tim Lehnen.
Panelists Sean Goggins | Brian Proffitt | Elizabeth Barron Guest Ruth Suehle Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:01:16] Ruth tells us about herself and her background. [00:03:56] Ruth fills us in on what Co.Lab is, what was involved with it, and what it was like taking it virtual. She also talks about some cool projects that they did. [00:10:35] Sean wonders Ruth has been able to sustain the level of participation in Co.Lab since it’s gone virtual and she shares exciting news. [00:12:11] We find out how much Co.Lab has grown in the past four years. She mentions SparkFun to purchase these fun kits. [00:14:52] Brian remembers when the gaming and tech space gaming came out and Ruth talks about that curriculum that was part of the virtual. She mentions Red Hat Arcade and Game On text. [00:21:33] Ruth shares more about the gaming community of practice and tells us about Open Jam. [00:25:17] Ruth tells us other things they are keeping track of besides the number of attendees. [00:27:11] Find out how you can get involved with Co.Lab as a volunteer. Ruth talks about how she hopes there’s a lot more of these experiences for kids in the future. [00:30:24] Sean asks Ruth when the in-person events return, how quickly does she think of what she has accomplished in the virtual Co.Lab will be retained, or does she think that the virtual is now going to co-evolve alongside the in-person events. Adds (Picks) of the week [00:34:26] Sean’s pick is gameontext.org. [00:34:43] Brian’s pick is the new Contributor.Link project. [00:36:44] Elizabeth’s pick is an App called iNaturalist.org. [00:37:27] Ruth’s pick is callforcode.org. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Ruth Suehle Twitter (https://twitter.com/suehle?lang=en) Ruth Suehle Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruthsuehle/) ruth@redhat.com (mailto:ruth@redhat.com) Red Hat (https://www.redhat.com/en/about/our-community-contributions) Opensource (https://opensource.com/) Co.Lab Open Source Stories (https://www.redhat.com/en/open-source-stories/colab) Red Hat Official Co.Lab-GitHub (https://github.com/RedHatOfficial/CO.LAB) SparkFun Red Hat Co.Lab Kits (https://www.sparkfun.com/red_hat) Red Hat Arcade (https://arcade.redhat.com/) GAME ON (https://gameontext.org/#/) Open Jam (https://openjam.io/) Game On Text (https://gameontext.org/#/) Contributor.Link (https://contributor.link/) iNaturalist (https://www.inaturalist.org/) Call for Code (https://callforcode.org/) Special Guest: Ruth Suehle.
Panelists Georg Link | Venia Logan Guest Patrick Woods Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:02:18] Patrick tells us about himself and his journey of what got him to where he is today. [00:08:00] We learn more about the foundations of The Orbit Model and what it looks like. Patrick explains the central components which are gravity, love, reach, and orbit level. [00:13:05] Patrick goes over the other prior models that community managers have used and compares it to this orbit analogy. [00:16:04] Venia asks Patrick to talk about how a person’s interaction over time and the measurement, how that love decays can tell you where they are in that path. [00:23:21] Patrick fills us on the users of The Orbit Model and Georg wonders if he has some insights from the users of the Orbit Model, and if he’s seen any pitfalls or success stories. [00:28:07] We learn from Patrick if he fosters conversations between communities and their community managers, and what kind of communities he sees The Orbit Model being applied to. [00:33:07] Georg talks about community health and how the CHAOSS project uses the metrics to understand the health of our open source communities. He wonders if The Orbit Model looks at it that way or if there’s another way to look at it. [00:35:26] Patrick tells us about when the Orbit company started and building a product around it, and about the future of Orbit. [00:38:16] Find out all the different places you can find Patrick online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:39:37] Venia’s pick is a book called, Secret Formulas of the Wizard of Ads by Roy Williams. [00:40:43] Patrick’s pick is a book called, The Culture Map by Erin Meyer. [00:42:11] Georg’s picks are visiting your local library and a book called, Angrynomics by Eric Lonergan and Mark Blyth. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Patrick Woods Twitter (https://twitter.com/patrickjwoods) Patrick Woods Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/patrickjwoods/) Developer Love podcast (https://www.heavybit.com/library/podcasts/developer-love/) Orbit (https://orbit.love/) Orbit Blog (https://orbit.love/blog/) The Orbit Model-GitHub (https://github.com/orbit-love/orbit-model) Secret Formulas of the Wizard of Ads by Roy Williams (https://www.amazon.com/Secret-Formulas-Wizard-Ads-Williams-ebook/dp/B00284AZQU) The Culture Map by Erin Meyer (https://erinmeyer.com/books/the-culture-map/) Angrynomics by Eric Lonergan and Mark Blyth (https://www.agendapub.com/books/128/angrynomics) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 2-Social Currency Metric System (SCMS) (https://podcast.chaoss.community/2) Special Guest: Patrick Woods.
Panelists Georg Link | Matt Snell | Ruth Ikegah | Matt Germonprez Guest Rachel Braun (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/rachel-braun) Celia Stamps (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/celia-stamps) Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:02:50] Rachel and Celia tell us what they do at the Linux Foundation. [00:04:15] We learn what the goal was of starting the DEI Badging Initiative from the CHAOSS perspective. [00:07:21] Rachel and Celia tell us why it’s important for events to take part in the badging initiative. [00:10:46] Find out about the process of getting a badge. [00:13:38] Ruth and Rachel explain more about the reviewer process. [00:15:52] Celia and Rachel explain the process of getting started and the steps they took until they got the badge. [00:21:40] Matt wonders if there are DEI related items that Rachel and Celia are working on at the Linux Foundations that CHAOSS is not asking in the badging application process. [00:25:42] Georg is curious if after going through the process and getting feedback, if there were things that Rachel and Celia took away from it, things they learned from, or things they would do different with their events because they went through the process. [00:27:38] Find out where you can follow Celia and Rachel online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:28:36] Georg’s pick is using Respite in foster care and going on a trip to Sioux Falls. [00:29:23] Ruth’s pick is DEI and learning how to care for people you don’t know as a reviewer in the Badging Initiative. [00:31:12] Rachel’s pick is celebrating some milestones in her family and taking joy in the smaller things. [00:31:51] Matt Snell’s picks are his upcoming wedding and his new dog Mabel. [00:32:16] Matt Germonprez’s pick is going out with his family since it’s close to Morel mushroom hunting season. [00:33:02] Celia’s pick is mentally and physically preparing for her baby #2 coming in mid-July. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Rachel Braun Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/rachel-braun/) Celia Stamps Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/celia-stamps) Shields.io-GitHub badges (https://github.com/badges) The Journal of Open Source Software (https://joss.theoj.org/) Diversity & Inclusion Event Badging Form (https://chaoss.community/diversity-and-inclusion-badging/) Çity of Sioux Falls (https://www.siouxfalls.org/) The Great Morel (https://www.thegreatmorel.com/) Special Guests: Celia Stamps and Rachel Braun.
Panelists Georg Link | Kate Stewart Guest Justin Rackliffe (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/justin-rackliffe) Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:02:17] Justin tells us what he does, his background, and his journey to where he is today. [00:04:47] Georg wonders if Justin is the only one helping with all the different concerns around open source, and he also tells us what the structure is like that he works within. [00:07:17] Kate wonders with the amount of automation happening behind the scenes to effectively make policy decisions if it is all still funneling more manually then Justin would like. Also, Justin explains how they want to leverage other people’s stuff and contributing back when they can. [00:09:58] Justin talks about SBOM’s being a challenge in the industry. [00:10:56] Kate explains what Software Bill of Materials (SBOM) and Software Package Data Exchange (SPDX) are. [00:15:18] Justin tells us other data points and metrics he employs besides SBOM. [00:19:08] Kate mentions one of the challenges is identity for software in the industry and matching it up to other sources of information and metrics, and she wonders if Justin finds it easy or hard to find that type of matching and if he’s looking at the National Vulnerability Database (NVD) as a set of risk metrics associated with a project whether it’s up to date as part of his signals. [00:22:31] Justin explains the difference in viewpoints between CHAOSS metrics and Downstream metrics. [00:25:14] Kate wonders how much some of the signals that the project sends about new releases and implicit end of life when you’ve got a new release coming out, and how much do people park on one release and not move it forward. [00:27:37] Justin talks about how tooling needs to be visible and we learn what kind of signals are useful to him. [00:31:17] We learn from Justin what he would like to see if Georg gave him a magic wand and he could wish for anything from the CHAOSS Project to support him. [00:34:41] Find out where you can follow Justin online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:35:59] Georg’s pick is the Apple watch. [00:37:03] Kate’s pick is having a quarterly meeting with the NTIA SBOM working group. [00:37:53] Justin’s pick is his bike and getting out on the greenways. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Justin Rackliffe Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jrackliffe/) Justin Rackliffe Twitter (https://twitter.com/byjrack?lang=en) opensource@fidelity.com (mailto:opensource@fidelity.com) Fidelity Investments-GitHub (https://github.com/fmr-llc) SPDX-GitHub (https://github.com/spdx) Apple Watch (https://www.apple.com/watch/) National Telecommunications and Information Administration SBOM (https://www.ntia.gov/sbom) Special Guest: Justin Rackliffe.
Panelists Georg Link | Dawn Foster | Matt Germonprez | Sophia Vargas | Elizabeth Barron Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:04:29] Georg dives right in to tell us why he wanted to start this podcast and the project, also, we learn the early goals he had with the podcast and the success the podcast has had in the last year. He mentions different episodes to check out. [00:08:00] Dawn tells us what she’s appreciated about the CHAOSS podcast over the year. [00:09:42] Dawn, Sophia, and Matt share the episode that was most interesting to them and what they learned from that episode. [00:13:12] Elizabeth shares the impact she has seen with the podcast on the community as a whole, and Sarah shares thoughts as well about the podcast being able to highlight the diversity in which metrics are important and applicable. [00:16:10] Georg talks about what he sees as the future of the podcast and the CHAOSS Community. Matt shares thoughts on the podcast as well. [00:19:38] The panelists share how they see the CHAOSS Project evolving and where do they see it heading now from where we’ve come in the last four years. [00:25:42] Dawn and Matt talk about how CHAOSS is trying to broaden the reach of work by moving into doing translations for both Chinese and Spanish. [00:26:50] Georg recognizes everyone who is working behind the scenes to make this podcast possible. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:29:22] Georg’s pick is an article, “This 5-Move, No-Gym Workout Got Matt Damon Fighting Fit in His Forties.” [00:29:59] Dawn’s pick is GitHub bots that automate all the things, specifically with the Kubernetes prow. [00:30:54] Sophia’s pick is World of Code DB. [00:32:41] Elizabeth’s pick is a Twitter account called “place where cat shouldn’t be.” [00:33:15] Matt’s pick is Morel mushroom hunting tips. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 1-“Hello, World!” (https://podcast.chaoss.community/1) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 5-Defining “Open Source Community Health” (https://podcast.chaoss.community/5) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 9-In Defense of Vanity Metrics (https://podcast.chaoss.community/9) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 19-GSOC: Anomaly Detection with Pratik, Akshara, Sarit, and Tianyi (https://podcast.chaoss.community/19) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 21-GSOC Pt. 2: Extending GrimoireLab projects with Ria and Venu (https://podcast.chaoss.community/21) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 23-GSOC & Outreachy: D&I Efforts-Aastha and Tola (https://podcast.chaoss.community/23) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 25-GSOC: GitLab Data with Abhinav (https://podcast.chaoss.community/25) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 27-GSOD with Xiaoya & Jaskirat (https://podcast.chaoss.community/27) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 31-Marketing Metrics with teams from GNOME & KDE (https://podcast.chaoss.community/31) “This 5-Move, No-Gym Workout Got Matt Damon Fighting Fit in His Forties” by Tom Ward (Esquire) (https://www.esquire.com/uk/life/fitness-wellbeing/a36108388/matt-damon-elysium-workout/) Cauldron (https://cauldron.io/) CHAOSS Community Reports (https://chaoss.community/community-reports/) CHAOSS DEI Event Badging (https://chaoss.community/diversity-and-inclusion-badging/) Prow-GitHub (https://github.com/kubernetes/test-infra/blob/master/prow/README.md) Place where cat shouldn’t be-Twitter (https://twitter.com/catshouldnt) Place where cat shouldn’t be-Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/catshouldnt/?hl=en) The Great Morel (https://www.thegreatmorel.com/)
Panelists Georg Link | Sophia Vargas | Armstrong Foundjem Guest Emil Wåreus (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/emil-wareus/) Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:02:33] Emil tells us all about himself, what he does, and explains what software composition analysis is. [00:05:10] Sophia asks Emil for his perspective on open source health, measuring the quality of open source, and what it means for his customers and his platform. He mentions a great book to read as well. [00:08:52] Emil tells us what people struggle with the most in terms of what he needs to help them understand or reeducate them in what is valuable in here, and how he helps them understand why they should care about these things. [00:13:32] Emil explains how his journey started in open source and how it has evolved over time. [00:15:32] Armstrong brings up future engineering and his concern with bias and perspective of communities, and Emil goes into more detail about it. [00:20:41] We learn about a graph model of all open source that Emil is developing. [00:22:24] Sophia wonders if Emil is interested in tracking the influence of individuals in these systems and if that’s something that could often muck up very systematic approaches and how he handles it. He talks about a project called Flask RESTX that he recommends. [00:27:38] Armstrong brings up the problem with maintenance which draws him to the metrics and how the social aspect of this community is a huge concern, and he wonders how Emil mitigates this aspect since an open source community deals with the socio-technical. [00:30:25] Emil walks us through his terminology. [00:35:52] Armstrong asks Emil how open he is to collaboration to make sure that we can work to view a very complex set of a model that we are presented. Sophia also shares interest in working with Emil’s model within the CHAOSS project and within some of their research divisions at Google. [00:38:48] Find out where you can connect with Emil online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:39:32] Georg’s picks are he’s getting the COVID-19 vaccine soon and a great book called, Ready Player One. [00:40:21] Sophia’s pick is making homemade broth and stocks. [00:41:07] Armstrong’s pick is crunching data. [00:41:30] Emil’s pick is a project called Cowait, that is open source and runs on Kubernetes. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Emil Wåreus Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/emilwareus/) debricked (https://debricked.com/) The debricked blog (https://debricked.com/blog/) Flask RESTX (https://github.com/python-restx/flask-restx) The Hitchhiker’s Guide to the Galaxy by Douglas Adams Ready Player One by Ernest Cline Cowait (https://cowait.io/) Special Guest: Emil Wåreus.
Panelists Georg Link | Andrea Gallo | Sean Goggins Guests Steffen Herbold (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/steffen-herbold) Alexander Trautsch (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/alexander-trautsch) Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:01:36] Steffen and Alexander introduce themselves and tell us what they do. [00:02:29] We learn what SmartSHARK is. [00:04:39] Alexander tells us where to begin if you want to learn about a repository using SmartSHARK. [00:09:30] Sean talks about a similar project he’s working on as part of the CHAOSS project. [00:10:40] Georg wonders what they have learned from the data and how they’ve used it since they’ve collected such a huge pile of data and have metrics on all of that. [00:12:13] Alexander shares some insights on some of his research findings. [00:16:17] Alexander explains what he means by static analysis and if the recommendations in the static analysis are language specific. [00:19:18] Andrea wonders how Alexander defines the rules and if he refers to specific standards. [00:21:35] Georg wonders if Steffen has looked at any other metrics, and if he has looked at any of those kinds of community health metrics if he’s paired them with the code metrics he was looking at. Steffen tells us about a database they are using. [00:23:58] If you’re interested in exploring the data and seeing the insights, Steffen tells us where you can get started. [00:26:27] Andrea asks Steffen if there are any public projects that he can share with us that he has seen improving or getting worse, and he tells us about literature on defect predictions in software. [00:30:31] Georg asks Steffen if he had one wish for the CHAOSS Project what it would be. [00:31:23] Find out where you can follow Steffen and Alexander online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:32:27] Georg’s pick is the globalization, getting products imported from other countries. [00:33:13] Andrea’s pick is a book called, In the Shadow of Man by Jane Goodall. [00:33:42] Sean’s pick is his former master’s advisor at the University of Minnesota who helped Jane Goodall analyze her data. [00:34:07] Steffen’s pick is global and local communication and visual communication, like Zoom or BBB, to stay connected. [00:34:51] Alexander’s pick is learning a new language to help him relax. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Steffen Herbold Twitter (https://twitter.com/herboldsteffen?lang=en) Steffen Herbold Linkedin (http://www.linkedin.com/in/steffen-herbold-b2b4a854/) Software Engineering for Distributed Systems (research group) (https://www.swe.informatik.uni-goettingen.de/) SmartSHARK (https://smartshark.github.io/) SmartSHARK-GitHub (https://github.com/smartshark) In the Shadow of Man by Jane Goodall Special Guests: Alexander Trautsch and Steffen Herbold.
Panelists Georg Link | Sri Ramkrishna | Neofytos “Neo” Kolokotronis Guests Aniqa Khokhar Caroline Henriksen Kristi Progri Paul Brown Show Notes [00:03:04] The four guests introduce themselves and tell us what community they are with. [00:05:23] Paul and Caroline share with us goals they have when they are doing their jobs for these GNOME and KDE communities. [00:06:37] Paul and Aniqa tells us what a typical day looks like for the work they do. [00:08:22] Sri asks them what their goals are and current methodology. [00:12:09] Paul asks Kristi how successful she is with people answering the surveys since he has seen so many people ignore them, and Caroline shares what they do as well. [00:14:16] Georg asks the guests if there are other goals they have for their communities besides bringing in more diverse people. Sri wonders if they go back and look at audience numbers as an indication of brand propagation. [00:17:05] Caroline explains to us what the Community Engagement Challenge is and what she did with the program. [00:18:46] Paul shares with us about market share, user base, and his thoughts on those metrics. [00:25:34] Caroline and Kristi tell us from a marketing perspective, how well their community is doing in terms of community health and what metrics they use in that communication. [00:28:33] We end with the guests each telling us the one metric they would like to see and what it would be. Also, find out where you can connect with them online to follow their work. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:31:23] Georg’s pick is making Marzipan. [00:32:10] Sri’s pick is his two black cats. [00:32:39] Caroline’s picks are her dog and a tool used for events called, Indico. [00:33:320] Kristi’s pick is a super cool book called Awareness by Anthony De Mello. [00:34:08] Aniqa’s pick is her nephew sharing what is happening at home. [00:34:20] Neo’s picks are his dog and the CHAOSS Diversity and Inclusion Events Badging Program. [00:35:07] Paul’s picks are Asian cooking and electronic boards for building circuits (linked below). Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Aniqa Khokhar Twitter (https://twitter.com/aniqakhokhar) Aniqa Khokhar Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/aniqa-khokhar-0125a029/) Caroline Henriksen Twitter (https://twitter.com/carolinealexaa) Caroline Henriksen Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/carolinehenriksen/) Kristi Progri Twitter (https://twitter.com/KristiProgri) Paul Brown Twitter (https://twitter.com/linux_spain) Paul Brown Blog (https://quickfix.es/) KDE Community Promo’s Long Term Goals (https://community.kde.org/Promo%27s_Long_Term_Goals) GNOME Community Engagement Challenge (https://www.gnome.org/challenge/) GNOME Final Challenge Showcase (https://events.gnome.org/event/75/) Marzipan (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Marzipan) Indico (https://indico.com/) Awareness: The Perils and Opportunities of Reality by Anthony De Mello CHAOSS Diversity & Inclusion Event Badging Form (https://chaoss.community/diversity-and-inclusion-badging/) Linux Magazine- “Node.js on the Rasp Pi” by Paul Brown (http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Reporting-Rasp-Pi-Data-on-a-Node.js-Web-Server/) Linux Magazine- “Graphical, Scratch-like programming languages for Arduino” by Paul Brown (https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Arduino-Bricks/) Linux Magazine- “Exploring the new Arduino/Genuino 101” by Paul Brown (https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Arduino-101/) Linux Magazine- “Up Close with C.H.I.P” by Paul Brown (https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Exploring-the-Tiny-9-C.H.I.P.-Computer/) Linux Magazine- “Get your Pi to read analog data” by Paul Brown (https://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Analog-to-Digital/) This episode was recorded with Big Blue Button (https://bigbluebutton.org/), a free software web conferencing system. Special Guests: Aniqa Khokhar, Caroline Henriksen, Kristi Progri, Neofytos Kolokotronis, Paul Brown, and Sri.
Panelists Georg Link | Don Marti | Venia Logan Guest Matt Yonkovit (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/matt-yonkovit) Quotes [00:31:22] “We didn’t open source it to get help from the community, to make the product bigger. We open sourced as a freemium strategy; to drive adoption,” quote by MongoDB CEO. [00:37:32] “And I think that hurts the overall willingness for a lot of companies to invest heavily in community because community is a long tail activity. It’s about fostering relationships that last multiple companies. It’s about the fostering relationships that go over many years. And I think that’s a very important and key thing because when you look at marketing, is really designed to how do I get sales to get optimized? How do I get them leads to generate? So I think that’s an important thing to consider, is you’ve got this thing where you’ve got, Hey, I’m looking for the long term health of the community, but the bigger the community I have, the bigger pie that sales, eventually people will come in.” Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:02:51] Matt tell us what Percona is and what he does there. He also tells us what his day-to-day looks like. [00:05:45] Since Matt’s community seems to be very diverse and spreads across a lot of platforms creating a lot of content, he talks about where all his community facets are how they tie into and generate a lot of the content that supports here in community. [00:09:25] Georg asks Matt if he looks at the health of these communities that they are a part of or what does he look at. [00:14:20] Matt talks about the laws that have been enacted recently and how people have become data hoarders. [00:16:40] We learn about most applications having the consent now on the internet, and Matt talks about schemas and how it’s like an anti-developer thing. [00:21:51] Georg brings up in the CHAOSS project and how they are crafting data policy or privacy policy for their open source project because the idea that we work in the open, the data is available, but some people don’t want them to analyze it even though it’s out there. Georg asks Matt if he has any ideas on this. [00:24:39] Don asks Matt if he finds himself taking private discussions and then going through the work of sanitizing them to the point where they can be shared with the community as a public content resource. [00:26:28] Venia wonders if Matt has a specific policy or data destruction point for their support tickets. Matt talks about having to implement different encryption schemes. [00:28:44] Matt shares his thoughts on open source licenses around databases. He mentions a talk he did at FOSDEM recently on “The Death of Openness and Freedom.” [00:35:55] Venia talks about metrics and putting together a dashboard for your community, and then asks Matt if he would say a lot of this could be cut off if you were to look at Metrics A rising and Metrics B lowering in proportion. [00:39:42] From the point of view of a developer who’s starting a new project, Don wonders how to balance the data base option against the option of running an open source database and managing it yourself. Matt explains database service being both a good thing and a bad thing all at the same time. [00:43:09] Matt tells us where we can find him online and more about his talks, blog, and podcast. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:44:07] Georg’s pick is Graphic novels to encourage reading. [00:44:37] Venia’s pick is a free book on communicationcache.com called, Virtual Teams That Work. [00:45:30] Matt’s pick is he’s excited to see ARM processors benchmarks. [00:46:27] Don’s pick is an open source project called Pi-hole. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Matt Yonkovit Twitter (https://twitter.com/myonkovit?lang=en) Matt Yonkovit Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/public-profile/in/myonk?challengeId=AQE1WGfltQR_ngAAAXfGiZvHRRrZ-i_d3TIu34lx6H41CF0u5-T-TIeUrDBCH0psopPx3qXZEyXoVvCYwmKPIBk3L7k0MyXkWA&submissionId=53758a27-31e1-6516-385b-fa2929951978) The HOSS Talks FOSS Podcast-YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYx3JyQ9izA) Percona Blog (https://www.percona.com/blog/) FOSDEM ’21- “The Death of Openness and Freedom? Open Source Under Attack” with Matt Yonkovit-FOSDEM (https://fosdem.org/2021/schedule/event/open_source_under_attack/) FOSDEM ’21- “The Death of Openness and Freedom? Open Source Under Attack” with Matt Yonkovit-YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAp95rIrHDo) SCALE 19x-Southern California Linux Expo (https://www.socallinuxexpo.org/scale/19x#:~:text=SCaLE%2019X%20%E2%80%93%20the%2019th%20annual,the%20greater%20Los%20Angeles%20area.) Virtual Teams That Work-Creating Conditions For Virtual Team Effectiveness_ Pi-hole (https://pi-hole.net/) Special Guest: Matt Yonkovit.
Panelists Kate Stewart | Matt Germonprez | Georg Link Guests Stefka Dimitrova (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/stefka-dimitrova) Ivana Atanasova (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/ivana-atanasova) Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:02:17] Stefka and Ivana tell us about themselves and what they do at VMware. [00:04:01] We learn more about what Stefka and Ivana talked about at the presentation at the OSS Europe 2020 with the metrics, why they did the analytics on open source communities, and what goals they had in mind. [00:06:39] Stefka talks more about identifying reasons why a project fails, what she’s observed, and what it means to her that a project fails. [00:10:01] Kate asks Stefka how long it takes before she actually considers a project to be inactive and what threshold she was using. Ivana tells us if they are measuring adoption and how much information they find using their analysis. [00:14:00] Georg mentions LFX Insights that Linux Foundation launched, and how they’re planning to include Twitter chatter to see whether projects are being mentioned. He wonders if Ivana would be interested in using this in their analysis. [00:16:31] Kate wonders how often Stefka goes back and re-examines and checkpoints her list of projects that she thinks are worth working with. [00:19:22] Stefka tells us how many metrics they keep standard for all the projects and about the dependencies. [00:22:24] Matt asks Stefka and Ivana to talk about the internal organizational process and the reception within VMware. [00:29:06] Since Ivana uses Augur and contributes to the CHAOSS Project Augur, she shares with us how she came to the project and how the journey has been for her. [00:33:51] Ivana and Stefka talk about examples of the types of improvements they would like to be seeing showing up in Augur. [00:38:48] Stefka and Ivana tell us where you can connect with them and follow the progress of their work online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:39:48] Georg’s pick is Linux Foundation’s LFX Insights. [00:40:44] Kate’s pick is an LCA talk she watched called, “The Privacy Tax” by Dawn E. Collett. [00:41:17] Matt’s pick is he’s into baking right now. [00:41:52] Stefka’s pick is a quote that has been with her for the past couple of days by Brene Brown, “There is no innovation and creativity without failure,” and having the freedom to experiment. [00:42:43] Ivana’s pick is focusing on side things you do to shape your way of thinking and helps you in other areas, including professionally. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Stefka Dimitrova Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/public-profile/in/stdimitrova/?challengeId=AQGT4TZ01XHZ9gAAAXdFsbor3ab6EBig4gy4FA1hAv3p39AuwrPG7mdokn50BdTF6vFUy3pfABzfbpmwyFPhctsA1fKocyO13A&submissionId=6101d714-3333-5e16-c682-e4d9811e5d26) Ivana Atanasova Linkedin (https://bg.linkedin.com/in/ivana-atanasova-15119b98) Open Source Summit Europe 2020 presentation slides: “If you can’t measure it, you can’t manage it”- how to assess project health, by Ivana Atanasova and Stefka Dimitrova (https://static.sched.com/hosted_files/osseu2020/ba/Oct%2028_If%20you%20cant%20measure%20it%20you%20cant%20manage%20it%20-%20how%20to%20assess%20project%20health_Ivana%20Atanasova%20and%20Stefka%20Dimitrova-2.pdf) The Linux Foundation- LFX Insights (https://lfx.linuxfoundation.org/tools/insights) LinuxConfAU Online 2021- “The Privacy Tax: How tracking and hacking affect disabled people, and what we can do about it,” by Dawn E. Collett. (https://linux.conf.au/schedule/presentation/41/) Augur Project-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss/augur) VMware Open Source Blog (https://blogs.vmware.com/opensource/) Special Guests: Ivana Atanasova and Stefka Dimitrova.
Panelists Georg Link | Dawn Foster | Daniel Izquierdo Guest Sophia Vargas (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/sophia-vargas) Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:02:12] Sophia tells us about what she does at Google and her journey to getting where she is right now. [00:06:15] We learn what Sophia does within the Open Source Programs Office. [00:08:33] Dawn asks Sophia how she looks at the life cycle of these open source projects in aggregate because it’s such a huge amount of projects. [00:11:06] Georg is curious to know Google’s approach to differentiate and generalize projects and the dynamics within the projects and Sophia tells us what they do for teams to learn more about their own projects. [00:16:27] Daniel wants to know what Sophia learned from FOSDEM as the first steps in the OSPO movement. [00:18:42] Since Sophia came from analyzing technology projects at Forrester, to now analyzing open-source projects, Dawn wonders what was different and what was the same about those two experiences. [00:23:48] We learn how coming to CHAOSS informed Sophia’s work and where she hopes CHAOSS will go as a project in the future. [00:28:57] Daniel asks Sophia if there’s any specific area that she is missing in CHAOSS that she would like to start working on, and she shares something. Also, Daniel talks about a survey done with ASF. [00:35:01] Sophia tells us where you can follow her work and connect with her online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:35:55] Georg’s pick is a game called Jackbox.TV. [00:36:55] Dawn’s pick is Tabletop Simulator and two fun games, Munchkin and Gloomhaven. [00:38:08] Daniel’s picks are the board game Pandemic and discovering Pilates. [00:39:00] Sophia’s picks are learning how to cook again and the Farmers’ Market. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Sophia Vargas Twitter (https://twitter.com/Sophia_IV) Sophia Vargas Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/public-profile/in/sophia-vargas-54608220?challengeId=AQGAZrpTgdP1dAAAAXc2Amg4WXvH802u5DRPPnipXZ9FX3G6wzQgdhI5z7SZDfNbaXMTxpZ8R6RA9OfXcY83r_-LiK16zLGV2Q&submissionId=f1ecd427-de43-5d16-0cbd-850dd8bb4438) Google Open Source (https://opensource.google/) Jackbox.TV (https://jackbox.tv/) Tabletop Simulator (https://store.steampowered.com/app/286160/Tabletop_Simulator/) Gloomhaven (https://store.steampowered.com/app/780290/Gloomhaven/) Munchkin: Quacked Quest (https://store.steampowered.com/app/926730/Munchkin_Quacked_Quest/) Pandemic Board Game (https://www.amazon.com/Z-Man-Games-ZM7101-Pandemic/dp/B00A2HD40E) Pilates (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pilates) Farmers’ Market (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Farmers%27_market) Apache Software Foundation (ASF) (https://www.apache.org/foundation/)
Panelists Georg Link | Matt Snell | Aastha Bist Guests Xiaoya Xia (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/xiaoya-xia) Jaskirat Singh (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/jaskirat-singh) Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show notes [00:02:15] Xiaoya introduces herself, how she came to CHAOSS, what it was like to apply to the Google Season of Docs, and why she chose this project. [00:04:26] Matt and Aastha tell us what the Diversity & Inclusion Badging Program is about and what the status was before Xiaoya started her project. [00:08:50] Xiaoya tells us her experience coming into this project and deciding what the final outcome will look like. [00:10:30] Xiaoya shares with us some of the trials and tribulations and how she overcame any challenges. [00:12:19] Aastha asks Xiaoya how she’s going forward with this project and what her future plans are. She also tells us if she would do it again and if she would recommend other technical writers to the project. [00:19:49] Jaskirat introduces himself and tells us his background. He also tells us what it was about the CHAOSS project specifically that connected with your past experiences. [00:23:01] Jaskirat tells us all about his project. [00:26:51] We learn how Jaskirat got started with the project application process. [00:30:53] We find out how Jaskirat’s project evolved from the starting point to the completion. He also tells us about the Community Handbook and what his next steps are going forward. [00:33:30] Jaskirat tells us where we can find him online to connect with him. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:15:40] Matt’s pick is a WASD Keyboard. [00:16:07] Xiaoya’s pick is taking a short break to visit her family. [00:33:59] Georg’s pick is a tv show THE ORVILLE. [00:34:26] Matt’s second pick is the home search with his fiancé. [00:34:47] Aastha’s pick is levelling up her freehand drawing skills. [00:35:17] Jaskirat’s pick is learning and researching robotics stuff. Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) CHAOSS for Google Summer of Docs 2020 (https://chaoss.community/blog-post/2020/06/09/google-summer-of-docs/) Xiaoya Xia Twitter (https://twitter.com/Esther04734757) Xiaoya Xia Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/xiaoya-xia-97832b200) Jaskirat Singh Twitter (https://twitter.com/jaskirat626) Jaskirat Singh Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/jaskiratsingh2000/) “How my big mistake led me to success in open source,” by Jaskirat Singh (https://opensource.com/article/20/9/open-source-mistake) WASD Keyboards (https://www.wasdkeyboards.com/) CHAOSS Community Handbook-Table of Contents (https://handbook.chaoss.community/community-handbook/) CHAOSS Community Handbook-Table of Contents-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss/community-handbook) THE ORVILLE (https://www.fox.com/the-orville/) You Can Draw in 30 Days: The Fun, Easy Way to Learn to Draw in One Month or Less by Mark Kistler CHAOSS Diversity & Inclusion Badging Program (https://chaoss.community/blog-post/2020/09/15/diversity-inclusion-badging-program/) Special Guests: Aastha Bist, Jaskirat Singh, Matt Snell, and Xiaoya Xia.
Panelists Georg Link | Venia Logan | Brian Proffitt | Richard Littauer | Pia Mancini Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:03:54] Richard wants to know if metrics lose some of the qualitative aspects of communities and of projects by trying to find quantitative things and how are they not stripping away what really is the heart of open source. [00:09:20] Pia wonders what are the most important qualitative metrics CHAOSS is evaluating. Georg tells us how they established the Diversity & Inclusion Badging Program (D&I Badging) at CHAOSS. [00:14:48] Richard wonders if they’ve found a lot of uptake for the badges and if people have started using them. [00:15:29] Georg tells us how people can get involved besides joining the working group. He explains three main areas that CHAOSS has to get involved. [00:20:23] Pia tells us what Sustain is, how it started, and what they do. [00:23:29] Venia talks about the concept of what a company, organization, or community is to people, and how they want to see something happen, so they ask for more structure. Pia tells us about Open Collective. [00:27:36] Pia brings up doing the first Sustain and the first insights they wrote from the meeting about maintainers. [00:29:57] Venia talks about her consultation services and how she works with other companies to produce community strategies. Georg tells us what he thinks works well for the Sustain community and what brought him in. [00:32:41] Richard gives praises to Gunner and Pia for all the work they’ve done with Sustain, and Pia shares with us about having concerns the first time they did an event with a lot of people. [00:34:49] Georg tells where you can get involved in the CHAOSS community and Richard tells us where you can get involved in the Sustain community. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:36:33] Georg’s pick is an open source project called the Toolkit for YNAB. [00:37:36] Venia’s pick is Scribus. [00:38:49] Pia’s pick is Open Prioritization by Igalia. [00:39:42] Brian’s pick is reMarkable 2. [00:41:40] Richard’s pick is the Audubon Christmas Bird Count. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS News (https://chaoss.community/news/) CHAOSS Software (https://chaoss.community/software/) CHAOSS D&I Badging Program (https://chaoss.community/diversity-and-inclusion-badging/) CHAOSS-How to Participate (https://chaoss.community/participate/) SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) SustainOSS Discourse (https://discourse.sustainoss.org/) Sustain Working Groups (https://sustainoss.org/working-groups/) FOSS Backstage (https://foss-backstage.de/) Toolkit for YNAB-GitHub (https://github.com/toolkit-for-ynab/toolkit-for-ynab) Scribus (https://www.scribus.net/) Open Prioritization by Igalia (https://www.igalia.com/open-prioritization/index) reMarkable 2 (https://remarkable.com/) Audobon Christmas Bird Count (https://www.audubon.org/conservation/science/christmas-bird-count) Audobon Christmas Bird Count Map of Active Circles (https://audubon.maps.arcgis.com/apps/View/index.html?appid=fadfb421e95f4949bde20c29a38228bd&extent=-77.2393,42.0593,-68.0108,45.5197) Birding in Vermont (https://birdinginvermont.com/) Special Guests: Pia Mancini and Richard Littauer.
Show Notes [00:01:34] Abhinav gives us an introduction of himself and what he did at Google Summer of Code 2020. He tells us what it was like applying to the program, his experience throughout the process, discovering CHAOSS, and deciding on this project. [00:03:31] Abhinav talks about working with Gitlab Data and the new feature he developed. Sean explains the merge request and the work Abhinav did with Augur. [00:05:34] Sean and Abhinav describes how the pull request/merge request portion of how it’s set up and how much he was able to reuse or change it to implement the merge requests. [00:06:57] We learn the most challenging part about reimplementing the architecture for the GitLab API and how he overcame it. [00:08:28] Georg wonders once the data was there if Abhinav was able to use the same visualizations that he uses for pull requests or were there changes that he also had to do in the presentation of the data. [00:10:25] Abhinav tells us how his experience was, how he worked with the mentors in the community, and how his learning experience was enhanced or encumbered by having peers on the Google Summer of Code. [00:14:06] Abhinav explains what his experience has been like coming into an open source community. [00:14:56] Since Google of Summer Code is done, Abhinav shares with us his plans for the future and where his journey is taking him now. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:18:07] Georg’s picks are Minecraft and Minecraft Earth. [00:20:06] Sean’s picks are electricity and rubber flooring. [00:20:48] Abhinav’s pick is to play the game “Among Us” with friends. Panelists Georg Link | Sean Goggins Guest Abhinav Bajpai (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/abhinav-bajpai) Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) podcast@chaoss.community (mailto:podcast@chaoss.community) Abhinav Bajpai Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/abhinavbajpai2012/) Google Summer of Code 2020-Abhinav Bajpai Work Product (https://gist.github.com/abhinavbajpai2012/710f2acc609c09e389a42fe2870df105) Abhinav Bajpai Blog Posts (Medium) (https://medium.com/@abhinavbajpai) Augur (https://chaoss.community/software/) Google Summer of Code (https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/) Minecraft (https://www.minecraft.net/en-us) Minecraft Earth (https://www.minecraft.net/en-us/about-earth) Rubber Flooring (https://www.rubberflooringinc.com/rubber-flooring/index.html?i=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAn7L-BRBbEiwAl9UtkJx8fDfnq3kXounfNKP1Q93RSHLtZvNMBOMkoLEI3AAM8F21SCSVkxoCXpkQAvD_BwE) Among Us_ Special Guest: Abhinav Bajpai.
Panelists Georg Link | Andrea Gallo Guest Luis Cañas-Díaz (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/luis-canas-diaz) Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Show Notes [00:02:20] Luis tells us all about himself, what he’s doing now, and how things evolved for him to get to this point. [00:06:25] Andrea wonders when Luis started the company if he followed those kind of management books of starting the company for dummies where first you need a mission or vision. [00:08:20] Andrea said some people say that maybe data is the new oil, or maybe it’s the way you use the data, or the metrics can be the new oil, and Luis responds. [00:11:22] Georg talks about starting CHAOSS three years ago, and how happy he was that Bitergia was one of the Co-Founders bringing in all of this experience. He also tells us about a new thing on the CHAOSS website under “Initiatives” where you can find community reports on the some of the metrics they have been defining. Luis talks about this report too. [00:13:58] Andrea wonders how many metrics Luis has available and if he has any common ones he recommends starting with. Georg wonders how does Luis identify contributors in open source and their organizational affiliation? [00:16:50] With Luis’s long history of working with metrics and users of open source metrics, Georg wonders if there are any do’s and don’ts or anything that he would take away from this experience and say to someone who is doing this work that here are some pitfalls that you need to be aware of. [00:19:28] Andrea talks about one of his favorite metrics, which is the geography one, Luis’s is the elephant factor, and Georg talks about the elephant factor. [00:23:45] Georg tells us why he enjoys the diversity and inclusion metrics and the value metrics, and why they are so important to him. [00:26:29] Luis tells us if he has a metric that is the most controversial or the most difficult to use. [00:29:04] Find out where you can learn more about Luis’s work and where you can find him online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:30:09] Andrea’s picks are Queen Crest Logo (Freddie Mercury’s design} and the book, Queen All the Songs: The Story Behind Every Track by Benoît Clerc. [00:31:08] Georg’s pick is his growing family and finally feeling complete. [00:31:29] Luis’s picks are a book called Persepolis _by Marjane Satrapi _and a video game called “Detroit: Become Human.” Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) Luis Cañas-Díaz Twitter (https://twitter.com/sanacl?lang=en) Libre Software People’s Front-Luis Cañas-Díaz Blog (https://sanacl.wordpress.com/) The Tyranny of Metrics by Jerry Z. Muller (https://press.princeton.edu/books/hardcover/9780691174952/the-tyranny-of-metrics) Community Health Report Request-CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/community-reports/) CHAOSScast podcast-Episode 9-“In Defense of Vanity Metrics” (https://podcast.chaoss.community/9) Queen Crest logo (https://goodlogo.com/extended.info/queen-logo-3009) Queen All the Songs: The Story Behind Every Track by Benoît Clerc (https://www.amazon.com/Queen-All-Songs-Story-Behind/dp/0762471247/) Persepolis (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Persepolis) The Complete Persepolis by Marjane Satrapi Detroit: Become Human (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Detroit:_Become_Human) Detroit: Become Human-Playstation (https://www.playstation.com/en-us/games/detroit-become-human-ps4/) Special Guest: Luis Cañas-Díaz.
Panelists Venia Logan | Matt Snell | Saleh Abdel Motaal Guests Aastha Bist (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/aastha-bist) Tola Ore-Aruwaji (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/tola-ore-aruwaji) Shownotes [00:03:04] Aastha and Tola introduce themselves and talk about their projects. [00:05:21] Aastha and Tola tells us about their coding backgrounds and what interested them in their specific projects. [00:07:35] Aastha talks about the initial idea of her project and how it affects the CHAOSS metrics in the end. Tola tells us the idea of his project since it went in a different direction and how it came back around to metrics. [00:13:58] Saleh brings up how important it is to bring in the idea diversity and inclusion and how CHAOSS has managed to make a more inclusive open source body. [00:15:22] Aastha tells us how the idea for her project evolved from the start of Google Summer of Code, to the project end, and beyond. [00:21:03] Tola tells us about how his project got started. [00:26:59] Saleh touches on some of the common pains of developers. [00:29:34] Tola explains to us about the success with the translation process. [00:30:32] Venia asks Aastha and Tola what they enjoyed most about working on their projects and what the highlights were, and they explain. [00:34:51] Aastha and Tola tells us where the projects stand, how people can get involved, and what’s next. [00:39:38] Matt wants to know what Aastha and Tola’s next steps from here on out, with their projects and professional lives. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:43:16] Venia’s pick is ‘People Powered’ Book Club by Jono Bacon or any virtual book clubs around your local area. [00:43:57] Matt’s pick is a used amp for an old guitar-VOX Night Train. [00:44:28] Saleh’s pick is “Reflecting on My Autistic Self,” (Unlisted Medium Draft} [00:46:26] Aastha’s pick is conversations with my granddad. [00:47:52] Tola’s pick is protests in Nigeria- #EndSARS. Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) CHAOSScast Podcast (https://podcast.chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Community Project Launch: CHAOSS Diversity & Inclusion Badging Program By Matt Snell (https://chaoss.community/blog-post/2020/09/15/diversity-inclusion-badging-program/) CHAOSS Overview of the D&I Badging (https://handbook.chaoss.community/badging/) Aastha Bist Blog (https://dev.to/bistaastha) Aastha Bist Twitter (https://twitter.com/BistAastha) Aastha Bist Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/bistaastha/) Tola Ore-Aruwaji Twitter (https://twitter.com/thecraftman_) Tola Ore-Aruwaji Blog (https://medium.com/@thecraftman) Tola Ore-Aruwaji Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tola-ore-aruwaji-5a332314a/) Aastha Bist GSoC 2020 final work report-CHAOSS Badging Project (https://gist.github.com/bistaastha/204157113ac0e65c60e25fc0d5b2c834) Tola Ore-Aruwaji-My Outreachy Project-Crowdsourcing Translation for CHAOSS Diversity & Inclusion Badging (https://medium.com/@thecraftman/my-outreachy-project-crowdsourcing-translation-for-chaoss-diversity-inclusion-badging-b30dcc5a8bb0) Jono Bacon People Powered Book Club (https://www.jonobacon.com/books/peoplepowered/club/) VOX Night Train (https://www.premierguitar.com/articles/VOX_Night_Train_NT15H_Head_Review_) “Reflecting on My Autistic Self,” by Saleh Abdel Motaal (https://smotaal.medium.com/reflecting-on-my-autistic-self-cb7506975b) BBC News-“SARS ban: Nigeria abolishes loathed federal special police unit” (https://www.bbc.com/news/world-africa-54499497) Google Summer of Code (https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/) CHAOSS Mentorship Alumi (list of Mentees and their projects) (https://chaoss.community/chaoss-mentorship/) Special Guests: Aastha Bist, Matt Snell, Saleh Abdel Motaal, and Tola Ore-Aruwaji.
Panelists Georg Link | Brian Proffitt | Matt Germonprez Guest Stephen Jacobs (https://chaosscast.fireside.fm/guests/stephen-jacobs) Show Notes [00:03:18] Stephen tells us his background and how he got his start. [00:08:00] From his early experiences with One Laptop per Child, Stephen tells us some things that are still relevant today with the work he’s doing around open source and the connection between where he started and where he’s at today. [00:10:23] Brian asks Stephen if he has some immediate goals for the open source academic program that he’s continuing at RIT. [00:16:02] Matt wants to know if Stephen counsels people through the process of picking the right candidate for open source. Stephen also talks about modifying the IP policy or creating an IP policy dedicated to open source. [00:23:40] Talking about metrics now, there is a discussion about some challenges to overcome in metrics and the impact that the work in the open in software and other types of open has. [00:26:04] On the idea of a healthy community, Brian asks Stephen how he is addressing the challenges with working in an academic environment with students who are rotating every four to six years and accepting student contributions. [00:32:50] Stephen shares a story about his students working on an open project on a video chat program for One Laptop per Child, focusing on the needs of a deaf user. [00:34:52] Georg is curious if Stephen has thoughts on how we can show impact in what kind of metrics we might be able to develop to show that we are doing good things in the maintenance of work that is not originally our own. Stephen mentions a community of professors called, Teaching Open Source. [00:39:43] Stephen tells us where to find him online. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:37:00] Georg’s pick is a Crockpot. [00:37:16] Brian’s pick is being cognizant of your time since it’s the most valuable resource that you have. [00:38:07] Stephen’s pick is to be able to walk on his treadmill for sanity and physical health. [00:38:56] Matt’s pick is a shout out to the Omaha Humane Society who helped him find his lost puppy. Sponsor SustainOSS (https://sustainoss.org/) Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) Rochester Institute of Technology-Open@RIT (https://www.rit.edu/research/open) Stephen Jacobs (https://www.rit.edu/research/open#people) One Laptop per Child (http://one.laptop.org/) TeachingOpenSource (http://teachingopensource.org/) Crockpot (https://www.crock-pot.com/) Nebraska Humane Society (https://www.nehumanesociety.org/) Special Guest: Stephen Jacobs.
Panelists Venia Logan | Dylan Marcy Guests Ria Gupta | Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula Show Notes [00:02:35] Ria and Venu introduce themselves and tell us how they got into CHAOSS. [00:04:34] Ria and Venu share with us how they found their projects and what is was like applying for Google Summer of Code. [00:07:27] Venu tells us all about what his project was in the Google Summer of Code. [00:08:50] Ria tells us all about what her project was in the Google Summer of Code. [00:10:05] Venu and Ria share with us how their projects started and what their experiences were in the Google Summer of Code. [00:12:24] Since Venu and Ria were working with similar systems, Dylan asks if at one point their two projects overlapped and they ended up working in the same area or with each other more directly. [00:14:14] Venia wants to know the most difficult parts of Ria and Venu’s projects and they tell us. [00:17:40] We find out how Ria and Venu feel about their end results and where they are in their projects right now. [00:23:35] Ria and Venu tells us what’s next for them since Google Summer of Code is over. [00:27:08] Venu shares one last thought about his project. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:29:42] Venia’s pick is a book called, Building Brand Communities by Carrie Melissa Jones and Charles Vogl. [00:30:39] Dylan’s pick is puppies. [00:32:23] Venu’s pick is amFOSS. [00:33:08] Ria’s pick is staying connected with friends and family. Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) Implementing Social Currency Metric System in GrimoireLab-Ria Gupta (https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/archive/2020/projects/6478870728933376/) Creating Quality models with GrimoireLab and CHAOSS metrics-Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula (https://vchrombie.github.io/blog/gsoc-final-report) Ria Gupta Twitter (https://twitter.com/guptaria2000) Ria Gupta-Blog (https://medium.com/@guptaria) Ria Gupta Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ria-gupta-979761175/) Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula Twitter (https://twitter.com/vchrombie) Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula Website (https://vchrombie.github.io/) Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/tvvr/) Venu Vardhan Reddy Tekula YouTube (https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCk-CrBuV5V-vGIEDppKY9YA) GrimoireLab (https://chaoss.github.io/grimoirelab/) Building Brand Communities: How Organizations Succeed by Creating Belonging-Carrie Melissa Jones and Charles Vogl amFOSS (https://amfoss.in/) Special Guests: Dylan Marcy, Ria Gupta, and Venu Tekula.
Panelists Venia Logan Guest Rob Underwood Show Notes [00:01:10] Rob tells us about himself, his career, and what he does at FINOS. [00:03:34] Rob talks about the culture and the environment that he built this tool in FINOS. [00:12:38] Rob tells us about being blessed in his career with some great mentors, and he shares a story about one. [00:16:34] We learn from Rob about the “tool” which is their board reporting and program health check. It is a rubric in order to present a set of criteria. [00:21:44] Venia summarizes the rubric. [00:23:21] Rob explains the philosophy behind selecting the metrics they did. [00:28:18] We find out what some of the metrics are which Rob calls “dimensions” and he explains each of these dimensions in detail. [00:34:58] Venia tells us to go to podcast.chaoss.community-Episode 11, if you’re looking to get involved in diversity and inclusion, which is a really great place to start. [00:37:38] Rob tells us about some big highlight metrics that he’s excited about. [00:46:35] We learn what the first step is toward community leaders implementing and adopting this tool in their own community [00:50:32] QIA process is mentioned by Venia. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:51:48] Rob’s pick is VOTE and wear a mask. [00:52:12] Venia’s pick is donate and contribute, especially to the people who are working on the front lines. Links: CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) Rob Underwood Twitter (https://twitter.com/brooklynrob?lang=en) FINOS (https://www.finos.org/) AVC-FINOS (interesting last paragraph about diversity) (https://avc.com/2018/04/finos/) FINOS Board Reporting and Program Health Checks (this is the tool for the projects) (https://finosfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/FINOS/pages/93225748/Board+Reporting+and+Program+Health+Checks) CSforAll (https://www.csforall.org/) Girls who code (https://girlswhocode.com/) Black girls code (https://www.blackgirlscode.com/) FINOS Incubating (https://finosfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/FINOS/pages/75530363/Incubating) FINOS Activation (https://finosfoundation.atlassian.net/wiki/spaces/FINOS/pages/75530376/Activation) CHAOSScast Podcast-Episode 11: Diversity & Inclusion with Emma Irwin (https://podcast.chaoss.community/11) Special Guest: Rob Underwood.
Panelists Georg Link | Sean Goggins Guests Pratik Mishra (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/pratik-mishra) Akshara P (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/akshara-p) Sarit Adhikari (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/sarit-adhikari) Tianyi (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/tianyi) Show Notes [00:04:02] Sean tells us how he was a mentor to all these students and what they all did. [00:05:39] Each student will discuss their project, the machine learning they used, and the outcome they were able to generate. Pratik shares his project first, and Georg asks if he can just plug in any metrics, even as new ones are developed, and start seeing behavior. [00:10:09] Pratik tells us about clustering or label of activity and what this means. [00:12:16] Akshara talks about her project, what she implemented, and what she is able to do now that her work is complete. [00:19:43] Akshara talked about building a prediction model and Georg wonders if she tried out how accurate her prediction was and did she go out and actually predict probabilities and then observed over a week or two how likely those were to be merged. [00:20:55] Sarit talks about his project, what he worked on, and what he is able to do now that his project is complete. [00:25:11] Georg asks Sarit what he learned about open source projects and is there a way of interacting that is better than another. Also, what is the insight you can gain from this kind of analysis. Sarit also tells us how the conversation mechanism could be different. [00:28:26] Tianyi tells us about his project, what he worked on, which is different than the others, and what he is able to do now that his project is complete. [00:34:36] Georg asks Tianyi if he looked at the strength of connections between projects. He also wonders if there are any other insights that Tianyi got from looking at the most active GitHub repositories. [00:38:46] Tianyi interprets the clustering coefficient of 0.5 for us. [00:40:21] The students share their experiences from their projects, and they tell us if Google Summer of Code lived up to their expectations going into it. Picks [00:45:37] Georg’s pick is his new bike and going biking. [00:46:00] Sean’s pick is what is in scarce supply which is “silence.” (his kids are home all day doing virtual school ☺). [00:46:20] Sarit’s pick is a camping trip he took last week. [00:46:40] Akshara’s pick is finding time to have a virtual meet with her gang of friends form college. [00:47:34] Pratik’s pick is having a virtual meeting with his friends from college. [00:48:03] Tianyi’s pick is he took a vacation and went back home to spend time with his parents and grandma. Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) Google Summer of Code (https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/) Augur software (https://chaoss.community/software/) Special Guests: Akshara P, Pratik Mishra, Sarit Adhikari, and Tianyi.
Panelists Matt Broberg | Nicole Huesman | Foundjem Armstrong Guests Mary Thengvall (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/mary-thengvall) Show Notes [00:01:48] Mary tells us all about herself and her job. [00:03:05] We find out from Mary what DevRel is. [00:05:20] Nicole asks Mary to talk the DevRel position being such a unique position and often people may want to apply traditional marketing metrics to the role and sometimes that doesn’t really work, so she explains why. [00:11:17] Matt wants to know how Mary handles the organization that is so used to trying to build these metaphorical engines everywhere and how do you try to explain DevRel from a data perspective if you don’t have the same easy metaphor available to you. She brings up the “Orbit Model.” [00:17:53] Armstrong asks Mary if this is a different kind of MetaMetrics that captures different forms of metrics and tries to present it to a different audience. [00:22:17] Mary tells us her thoughts on the whole notion of the unintended consequences of metrics or measurement, which is always a hot topic. [00:29:06] We learn how management measures Mary’s success and how does she evaluate her performance. [00:32:10] Mary tells us what she would like to see from the CHAOSS Project and how does she see the CHAOSS Project being helpful from a DevRel perspective. Picks [00:35:08] Mary has two picks: a book called, Working in Public, _by Nadia Eghbal and a video game, _Horizon Zero Dawn. [00:36:53 Armstrong’s pick is Ordy cartoon. [00:37:38] Nicole has two picks: I AM C-3PO and A Famous Dog’s Life (Audiobooks). [00:38:48] Matt’s pick is the research of George Lakoff and his book, _Metaphors We Live By. _ Sponsor Honeybadger (https://www.honeybadger.io/) Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/chaossproj?lang=en) Mary Thengvall Website/Blog (https://www.marythengvall.com/) Mary Thengvall Twitter (https://twitter.com/mary_grace?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Mary Thengvall Instagram (https://www.instagram.com/candidcrafts) Camunda (https://camunda.com/) The Business Value of Developer Relations by Mary Thengvall (https://www.persea-consulting.com/book) The Orbit Model-GitHub (https://github.com/orbit-love/orbit-model) “DevRel Qualified Leads: Repurposing A Common Business Metric To Prove Value,” by Mary Thengvall (https://www.marythengvall.com/blog/2019/12/14/devrel-qualified-leads-repurposing-a-common-business-metrics-to-prove-value) Working in Public: The Making and Maintenance of Open Source Software by Nadia Eghbal (https://www.amazon.com/Working-Public-Making-Maintenance-Software/dp/0578675862) Horizon Zero Dawn-Steam Ordy Cartoon (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/M%C4%ABmu_Iro_Iro_Yume_no_Tabi) I AM C-3PO (Audiobook) A Famous Dog’s Life (Audiobook) Metaphors We Live By- George Lakoff (https://georgelakoff.com/books/metaphors-we-live-by/) George Lakoff Website (https://georgelakoff.com/) Special Guest: Mary Thengvall.
Show Notes [00:02:42] Antonio tells us how he got to IOTA and what his journey was like. [00:04:54] We learn about a contest Antonio won and how important it was getting the job as Community Manager at IOTA. He also tells us what skills you need to make money. [00:10:47] Sean asks Antonio how he approaches his role as a Community Manager in that context since it’s so diverse. [00:13:17] Daniel wants to know if Antonio is using other types of metrics that are more related to serving the community or interviewing specific people. He also tells where he heard about GrimoreLab. [00:17:45] With 300,000 community members as a Community Manager, Sean asks Antonio how many projects, communities, and repositories he is trying to keep track of. [00:20:07] Antonio talks about his approach to identifying who is in his community. [00:23:51] We learn about the metrics Antonio is using. [00:27:00] Sean asks Antonio when he looks at the metrics, are there things that block him from getting certain information and are there questions that you want to answer but can’t. [00:29:10] Antonio mentions needing to be out in the community and do some social listening, and Georg has a suggestion on how the CHAOSS project handles this with their social currency metrics system. [00:32:16] Daniel has some advice to share about how he was looking at different projects on how to make open source self-sustainable. [00:36:56] Antonio shares with us what it means to him when he talks about a healthy community. [00:40:19] Antonio tells us where we can find him on the internet. Picks [00:41:24] Georg’s pick is his husband and if you have someone that brings joy to your life just cherish that. [00:42:13] Sean’s pick is Routine. [00:42:50] Daniel’s pick is Seneca (ancient Roman philosopher). [00:43:46] Antonio’s pick is Rejection and Living the dream. Picks Honeybadger (https://www.honeybadger.io/) Hosts Georg Link | Sean Goggins | Daniel Izquierdo Guist Antonio Nardella (http://chaosscast.fireside.fm/guests/antonio-nardella) Links Antonio Nardella Twitter (https://twitter.com/antonionardella?lang=en) IOTA (https://www.iota.org/) Discord IOTA (https://discord.iota.org/) CHAOSScast Podcast- Episode 2 “Social Currency Metric System.” (https://podcast.chaoss.community/2) Seneca the Younger (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Seneca_the_Younger) Special Guest: Antonio Nardella.
Panelists Georg Link | Armstrong Foundjem Guest Silona Bonewald (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/silona-bonewald) Show Notes [00:01:52] Silona tells us about herself and her background. [00:03:21] Silona discusses being a big believer of “Gang of Four Patterns.” [00:05:38] Georg asks Silona how she thinks about measuring all these different parts of the community. She tells us one of the biggest compliments she got from someone at PayPal. [00:10:18] We learn how the metrics were collected and she tells us they started open planning. She also tells us if there was a consequence of separating the group into two different groups to measure the metrics and how the evaluation was. [00:15:09] Silona has “confessional” time and talks about Drupal. [00:19:45] We hear about Silona not having active disagreement, but passive disagreement. She shares a funny story. [00:24:18] Georg wants to know how is that feedback group when you’re looking at a metric community within your community, how do you show that you’re being effective and then secure more resources to continue growing. [00:27:05] How can CHAOSS help, what do you see CHAOSS’s role in open source ecosystem, and how would you like CHAOSS to evolve to get the most out of it. [00:31:04] Georg brings up InnerSource Commons and how Silona is doing some amazing work to document the best practices and patterns to help organizations adopt. She lets us know how she works in the open in a collaborative way. [00:34:28] Silona talks about standards and wanting to raise the maturity level of open source and standards has some really awesome processes for a lot of that. [00:37:08] Silona tells us where we can find her and her work on the internet. Value Adds (Picks) of the week [00:38:59] Georg’s pick is buying a piece of land. [00:39:48] Armstrong’s pick is All work and no play makes Jack a dull boy: Take time off work and enjoy the quietness of nature. [00:40:21] Silona’s pick is having to grow my team this week by hiring six new people. Sponsor Honeybadger (https://www.honeybadger.io/) Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/CHAOSSproj?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3ACHAOSSproj&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fchaoss.community%2F) Silona Bonewald Twitter (https://twitter.com/Silona) Dries Buytaert blog post on Makers and Takers in Open Source (https://dri.es/balancing-makers-and-takers-to-scale-and-sustain-open-source) Hyperledger’s “Community Groups” (https://www.hyperledger.org/participate/join-a-group) InnerSource Patterns-GitHub (https://github.com/InnerSourceCommons/InnerSourcePatterns) IEEE SA Open GitLab (https://opensource.ieee.org/users/sign_in) Special Guest: Silona Bonewald.
Panelists Matt Broberg | Daniel Izquierdo | Armstrong Foundjem Guest Stormy Peters (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/stormy-peters) Show Notes [00:02:46] Stormy tells us what is an OSPO providing a company. She also tells us what kind of skills you need to be in an OSPO. [00:05:43] Matt asks Stormy if there are certain organizations that she’s noticed or has there been a pattern of adoption of OSPO’s as a part of the org chart. She also talks about Microsoft. [00:08:22] Since Stormy has been at Microsoft a year now, she tells us her journey at Microsoft and what she’s bringing to the organization that’s going down this line of an open source evolution. [00:09:28] Daniel asks Stormy if OSPO is an effect of a company becoming more open source friendly, so a good open source citizen, or is this procreated by companies willing to be open source citizens. Stormy goes into the inner source functionality as well. [00:13:56] Armstrong wants to know Stormy has any concern about what you can measure, and do you measure any metrics? He also asks if she knows about obsolete assumptions and if she’s ever encountered any. [00:21:00] Daniel talks about how metrics are like colors, talking to people like different metrics, different colors, and probably one of the main reasons OSPO exists because we need the strategy. He also gives some recommendations. [00:25:03] Armstrong brings up a good point about some people in life are color blind and giving organizations or any ecosystem at this certain metrics, we tend to be color blind to avoid measuring or we don’t want to measure, and Daniel said he has seen this behavior. [00:28:22] Stormy tells us the OSPO’s role. [00:30:45] Matt is curious as to what Stormy’s day to day is like when it comes to balancing all these different demands internally for open source expertise. He also wonders how she differentiates value as you’re looking at projects and how do you determine whether this is a valuable open source project for a business. The guys also share some advice of their own on how they perceive value. [00:33:02] Armstrong shares some great advice here about having more diversity in projects. [00:38:32] Daniel tells us what he looks out for as he’s evaluating valuable projects. [00:41:23] Thinking about value, Matt wants to know something Stormy appreciates when she comes across an open source project. Picks [00:42:47] Stormy’s value add is how our work is changing and how we’re making it better and more efficient. [00:44:29] Armstrong’s value add is walk and drink water. [00:45:39] Daniel’s value add is asking how he can organize himself. Stormy and Matt have some ideas for him (linked below). [00:47:36] Matt’s value add is fiddling with dotfiles and a project called, “Chez Moi” that helps. Sponsor Honeybadger (https://www.honeybadger.io/) Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/CHAOSSproj?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3ACHAOSSproj&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fchaoss.community%2F) Stormy Peters Twitter (https://twitter.com/storming) Chezmoi-GitHub (https://github.com/twpayne/chezmoi) “Microsoft Analyzed Data On It’s Newly Remote Workforce”-Harvard Business Review (https://hbr.org/2020/07/microsoft-analyzed-data-on-its-newly-remote-workforce) Habitica App (https://habitica.com/static/home) Atomic Habits: An Easy & Proven Way to Build Good Habits & Break Bad Ones by James Clear Credits Produced by: Rebase.fm (https://rebase.fm/) Edited by: Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry (mailto:eric@rebase.fm) at Rebase.fm (https://rebase.fm/) Support CHAOSS (https://funding.communitybridge.org/projects/a4a43b66-f707-47b4-97cc-484285c274a8) Special Guest: Stormy Peters.
Panelists Venia | Don | Matt Germonprez Guest Chris Mercer (https://chaosscast.fireside.fm/guests/chris-mercer) Show Notes [00:02:25] Mercer tells us what exactly MeasurementMarketing is. [00:04:47] Matt asks Mercer how he filters through all of the digital data that’s available to us to make sure that this is somehow meaningful as a great tool. [00:08:09] Don brings up Facebook’s instructions on digital marketing 101 and wants to know if that’s a thing that can be done. He also wants to know from a competitive point of view if Mercer is concerned about data going over to other companies that be better positioned to use it. [00:14:21] Matt asks Mercer, in this highly dynamic landscape that he’s working in what are the ways that he goes about learning in this space. [00:20:18] Looking at next generations of technology, Don asks Mercer if he’s looked at any of the proposed replacements for the third-party cookie at all, like Google’s Flock and TURTLEDOVE. Also, he wonders if there’s a metric for how measurable your audience is, kind of like a meta metric of how well the metrics work. [00:28:32] Mercer goes through a few things that he thinks are most important for people who are trying to measure their communities and what should they know. [00:37:04] Mercer explains one of his “ism’s” called “Results on How.” [00:42:52] Venia wants to discuss how these theories and how the future of measurement Mercer has outlined it, is really going to impact CHAOSS. CHAOSS is providing so many metrics of giant toolbox and all of these communities that we’re looking to measure have to find that journey, have to use those pillars, so how do you think this will impact what CHAOSS looks like? Picks [00:49:33] Matt’s value add is he’s been running with his new dog to keep the brain clear. [00:50:22] Don’s value add is spring cleaning and using a new tool called Earthly. [00:51:05] Venia’s value add is the importance of building out an information diet. [00:52:02] Mercer’s value add’s are walking on a treadmill and a start-up called “Knowhere.” Quotes [00:31:18] “So, that’s the kind of journey that you go through and your job is not to create this massive gigantic implementation of just because you can, you should. That’s not how it is. You deal with the questions that you are trying to answer, and you build your implementation to answer those questions. Then you will start asking bigger questions naturally and then your implementation will improve to answer those, and then you keep doing that and the journey.” [00:34:15] “Truth is in the trend; power is in the pattern.” Sponsor Honeybadger (https://www.honeybadger.io/) Links CHAOSS Project (https://chaoss.community/) CHAOSS Project Twitter (https://twitter.com/CHAOSSproj?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Eembeddedtimeline%7Ctwterm%5Eprofile%3ACHAOSSproj&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fchaoss.community%2F) MeasurementMarketing-Chris Mercer (https://measurementmarketing.io/chaoss) Earthly (https://docs.earthly.dev/) Knowhere News (https://knowherenews.com/) Credits Produced by: Rebase.fm (https://rebase.fm/) Edited by: Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry (mailto:eric@rebase.fm) at Rebase.fm (https://rebase.fm/) Support CHAOSS (https://funding.communitybridge.org/projects/a4a43b66-f707-47b4-97cc-484285c274a8) Special Guest: Chris Mercer.
Panelists Georg Link | Dawn Foster | Andrea Gallo Guest Gina Helfrich (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/gina-helfrich) Show Notes [00:02:28] Gina tells us about herself, what she does, and how she got into this “space” and the opportunity that came up at Internews to manage the BASICS project. [00:06:10] Dawn asks Gina if she has any suggestions for people who are analyzing data, especially in vulnerable populations. [00:09:43] Andrea wants to know what Gina’s thoughts and guidelines are when selecting security applications? She also gives us a summary and explains the two parts of the BASICS project (Building Analytical and Support Infrastructure for Critical Security tools). The Guardian Project and a methodology they developed called, Clean Insights is explained. [00:14:36] Andrea asks Gina when you follow the development of an open source tool or you select an open source tool for adoption, is there any metrics that you monitor to identify the success of a project and what would you consider a good open source project to adopt or how would you declare that your role in an open source project sounds successful? [00:17:03] Dawn asks how good are these projects that people are using and what shape are they in. Also, Gina gives us examples of the types of projects she’s working with. [00:20:03] Georg saw the Lightweight Needs Assessment that Gina created for Internews (https://internews.org/areas-of-expertise/global-tech/resources/open-source-software-lightweight-needs-assessment/), she listed CHAOSS as a source of inspiration for this tool along with others, so he’s interested to know how did she go about creating this tool, how you’ve used these resources, like CHAOSS, in the creation and what are the dimensions that you are looking at inside the tool. [00:29:14] Gina talks a little more about how she uses all this data, then to prioritize which projects get consultants or get additional help. Also, she tells us how she goes from the data to the decision-making process. [00:33:00] Andrea talks about his favorite metrics and he asks Gina her thoughts on if a project is all contributed by engineers from few companies, is it really an open source project versus open source projects that are contributed by hundreds of people working for different companies and has she looked at these elements in her strategy. [00:37:16] Andrea wonders if it was hard for Gina to jumpstart into CHAOSS and find her way. [00:40:50] Gina tells us where you can find her on the internet and find this tool to learn more about how to use it. Picks [00:41:30] Georg’s value add is a book called, See You in the Cosmos, by Jack Cheng. [00:42:36] Dawn’s value add is a tool called OBS Studio. [00:43:50] Andrea’s value add’s are a book called, To Touch a Wild Dolphin, by Rachel Smolker and WindowSwap. [00:45:25] Gina’s value add’s are roller skating/watching roller skating videos on Instagram (Berlin roller skater) and a book called, How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy by Jenny ODell. Quotes [00:07:59] “And it’s kind of interpersonal in nature of that, and the messiness and humanness of that interaction, gives you I believe, a different perspective on running analyses if you really have that sense of, 'Oh, there are people here!'” Links Lightweight Needs Assessment that Gina created for Internews (https://internews.org/areas-of-expertise/global-tech/resources/open-source-software-lightweight-needs-assessment/) Gina Helfrich Website (https://ginahelfrich.com/) Gina Helfrich Twitter (https://twitter.com/ginahelfrich?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Gina Helfrich Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ginahelfrich/) Clean Insights (http://cleaninsights.org/) Internews Global Technology BASICS project (https://internews.org/areas-of-expertise/global-tech/global-tech-projects/basics/) See You in the Cosmos by Jack Cheng OBS Studio (https://obsproject.com/) To Touch a Wild Dolphin by Rachel Smolker (https://www.amazon.com/Touch-Wild-Dolphin-Rachel-Smolker/dp/038549176X) WindowSwap (https://window-swap.com/) Oumi Janta- Berlin roller skater (https://www.instagram.com/oumi_janta/) How to Do Nothing: Resisting the Attention Economy by Jenny Odell (https://www.penguinrandomhouse.com/books/600671/how-to-do-nothing-by-jenny-odell/) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Special Guest: Gina Helfrich.
Panelists Venia Logan | Foundjem Armstrong | Nicole Huesman Guest Michelle Dalton (https://chaosscast.fireside.fm/guests/michelle-dalton) Show Notes [00:01:21] Michelle gives us her background and fills us in on her journey into community management. [00:04:30] Digital marketer and where the engaged group sets in its strategic plan is discussed, as well as how big the digital engaged community is. [00:07:44] Michelle talks about what her job looked like in the service area and how it changed in engage. [00:09:39] Nicole asks Michelle if there have been any surprises or things that you didn’t expect in her role as a community manager. [00:12:05] Venia asks Michelle to talk about how the digital marketer views the evolution of marketing community as relationships and how it may impact the evolution of open source communities. [00:14:08] Michelle gives us some insights on what she thinks she can bring to inform open source communities. She explains human to human interaction. [00:17:43] Michelle tells us how she balances her communication inside of her team, with her public, and give her public some power in the actual company, and how does she navigate that tension. [00:21:58] Armstrong wonders if Michelle has observed any path of success which an open source community learned from her instantly. [00:24:40] Venia wonders if Michelle would say that your community has transcended the notions of being useful or successful in regard to your terms and goals, and the community has become meaningful? Also, what does she think that means to all of her community members that they view this community as a place where they can garner meaning? Michelle mentions a woman in their group, Cyn Mobley, who is a rock star, and talks about her. [00:29:15] Nicole wonders how Michelle brings up other community members and encourage them to be more active and jump in. [00:34:40] Michelle explains how the onboarding process broke down, how she dealt with it, and where she stands now. She also talks about the atmosphere which attracted these people to come into the community. Picks [00:40:09] Venia’s value add is to dedicate yourself to a hobby. [00:40:46] Nicole’s value add is enrolling her son in a coding camp. [00:41:48] Armstrong’s value add is a cool park he discovered. [00:43:29] Michelle’s value add’s are redoing her bedroom and downloading sleep apps. Links Michelle Dalton-Linkedin (http://www.linkedin.com/in/michelledaltoncmty) Michelle Dalton-Facebook (https://www.facebook.com/michellecmty) DigitalMarketer (https://www.digitalmarketer.com/) topic@podcastchaos.community (mailto:topic@podcastchaos.community) (email) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Special Guest: Michelle Dalton.
Panelists Venia Logan | Don Marti | Georg Link Guest Emma Irwin (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/emma-irwin) Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes [00:03:02] Emma tells us all about herself, her work at Mozilla, and what her journey was like. [00:07:07] Georg brings up the CHAOSS Diversity Inclusion Badging Project that Emma talks about. [00:10:02] Venia is curious to know from Emma what badges are available and what level of degree are people going to be able to use them in order to negotiate their own identities in an online space? [00:12:28] Don wants to know if the badging helps address concerns by project maintainers that they can be inclusive without taking on personal data stewardship responsibilities. Georg mentions Matt Snell leading the badging project, and how he just had a talk at the Open Source Summit North America, where he talked about everything they’re doing. [00:15:48] Emma tells us the number one problem that people make when they approach community health metrics. Also, she tells us how she recommends people go about coming up with good questions. [00:22:17] Venia asks Emma to talk about where the silo concept meets the exclusivity concept and how that worked. [00:27:00] Venia wants to know where is this working group, where is CHAOSS going to move forward now, especially since diversity and inclusion, at least here in the States, is now a mainstay part of the news. [00:32:34] Don asks Emma if there is a metric around some kind of a community decision making in open spaces that might be more inclusive than the kind of project decisions that might get made at an in-person event. [00:34:06] As we think about diversity and inclusion, and society in tech and Open Source, Georg asks Emma what do you think we can do? Picks [00:40:29] Georg’s value add is watching his foster child learning how to ride a bike at 14 years old. [00:41:11] Vania’s value add is sometimes it’s worth throwing money in the dark. [00:42:01] Don’s value add is stophateforprofit.org. [00:43:29] Emma’s value adds are Kim Crayton’s course on “Introduction to Being Antiracist,” a Podcast called “Seeing White,” and being a gardener! Links Emma Irwin Website (https://medium.com/@sunnydeveloper) Emma Irwin Twitter (https://twitter.com/sunnydeveloper) CHAOSS workgroup diversity and inclusion metrics-GitHub (https://github.com/chaoss/wg-diversity-inclusion) CII Best Practices Badge Program (https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/en) Badging by CHAOSS (https://github.com/badging) Badging Project presentation at the Open Source Summit North America (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-north-america/program/schedule/) Open Source Diversity (https://opensourcediversity.org/) Open Source Summit North America (https://events.linuxfoundation.org/open-source-summit-north-america/) Shophateforprofit.org (https://www.stophateforprofit.org/) Kim Crayton course, “Introduction to Being an Antiracist.” (https://ti.to/kim.crayton.llc/introduction-to-being-an-antiracist/en) Kim Crayton Twitter (https://twitter.com/KimCrayton1) “Seeing White” Podcast (http://www.sceneonradio.org/seeing-white/) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Special Guest: Emma Irwin.
Panelists Kate Stewart | Sean Goggins | Georg Link Guest Frank Nagle (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/frank-nagle) David A. Wheeler (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/david-wheeler) Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes [00:02:40] We start off on the topic of looking at metrics that are useful for identifying what’s going on in a Software Configuration Management system. David tells us what it is and if there’s a difference between building software and deploying it. Also, figuring out which components you’re going to bring in, to your overall system. [00:07:55] Kate wants to know how much do the hidden dependencies play a role in risk of using Open Source and using projects, and do we see things people aren’t expecting? Sean asks if there are high profile cases where folks did not manage those dependencies terribly well and bad things happened. [00:14:09] Sean wants to know what kind of metric might help to identify that kind of programmer error that results in malicious code being introduced into a project and are there other ways that we could measure the existence of that phenomenon? CII Best Practices Badge is talked about here. [00:16:38] Kate mentions a survey that came out late last year of the most popular software that came out recently, and there’s some top packages that were identified through the analysis that had come from the scanners and everything else. Of those packages, how many of them have badges? Frank tells us the analysis he did and the results (report linked below). [00:19:45] Sean talks about things he’s observed when it comes to packages and dependencies and which ones are more popular in the course of the project. He wonders if anyone on the panel has started thinking about how do we assess things that are within a repository and what challenges does that pose from a metrics perspective? [00:23:34] License Risk on a project is discussed here by Kate and David. [00:28:09] Sean wants to know if he’s creating an Open Source software project and he Googles “Open Source Software licenses,” is he in a pretty safe space or are there other Open Source licenses that are pretending that they’re Open Source? David tells us where to look to find out. [00:29:32] Frank tells us what kinds of metrics or pieces of what they’ve talked about as being significant in both economic impacts and the future of work. [00:33:53] Sean wants to know in regard to Frank’s survey, what kinds of things he is looking to measure that we can’t with trace data from a repo. [00:36:39] Georg asks Frank if he’s has some early insights that might be interesting with the survey. [00:39:02] David and Frank tell us places you can check out to learn more. Picks [00:40:28] Kate’s picks are to check out Software Transparency reports and check out Allan Friedman’s session at RSA “Taking Control of Cyber-Supply Chain Security.” [00:41:26] Georg’s pick is OSI/Brandeis course on Open Source communities. [00:42:36] Sean’s pick is Covid-19 streaming movie binge called “Hanna” on Amazon Prime. [00:43:08] David’s picks are his website DWheeler.com and a website that Cloudflare put up called, “isbgpsafeyet.com.” [00:46:44] Frank’s pick is a working paper that was just released called, “Open Source Software and Global Entrepreneurship.” Links Frank Nagle Twitter (https://twitter.com/frank_nagle?lang=en) Frank Nagle Website (https://www.hbs.edu/faculty/Pages/profile.aspx?facId=566431) David A. Wheeler Twitter (https://twitter.com/drdavidawheeler?lang=en) David A. Wheeler Website (https://dwheeler.com/) CII Best Practices Badge Program (https://bestpractices.coreinfrastructure.org/en) CII-FOSS Survey (https://hbs.qualtrics.com/jfe/form/SV_enfu6tjRM0QzwQB) “More Than a Gigabuck: Estimating GNU/Linux’s Size” by David A Wheeler (https://dwheeler.com/sloc/redhat71-v1/redhat71sloc.html) Reproducible Builds (https://reproducible-builds.org/) SPDX License List (https://spdx.org/licenses/) Core Infrastructure-Preliminary Report and Census II of Open Source Software (https://www.coreinfrastructure.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/6/2020/02/census_ii_vulnerabilities_in_the_core.pdf) OSI-Brandeis course on Open Source Technology Management (https://www.brandeis.edu/gps/future-students/learn-about-our-programs/open-source-technology-management.html) Hanna-Amazon Prime (https://www.amazon.com/Hanna-Season-1/dp/B07L5N7P32) Is BGP safe yet? (https://isbgpsafeyet.com/) “Open Source Software and Global Entrepreneurship” paper by Frank Nagle, Nataliya Wright, and Shane Greenstein. (https://papers.ssrn.com/sol3/papers.cfm?abstract_id=3636502) NTIA Software Component Transparency (https://www.ntia.doc.gov/SoftwareTransparency) Allan Friedman’s session at RSA “Taking Control of Cyber-Supply Chain Security.” (https://vshow.on24.com/vshow/RSAConference2020APJ/#content/2502653) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Special Guests: David A. Wheeler and Frank Nagle.
Panelists Venia Logan | Matt Broberg Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes [00:02:23] Matt and Venia explain what a Vanity Metric is. [00:06:41] Matt wants to know what is the opposite of a Vanity Metric? [00:10:46] Matt and Venia talk about how having a community strategy is so essential to understanding why we are using metrics. [00:12:27] Matt brings up being in the hot seat of being Community Manager and an uncomfortable moment he had. Venia tells us a powerful story she encountered in her background with the LGBTQ. [00:19:35] Matt shares ones of his favorite quotes and then he asks Venia what’s the risk of measuring, especially with vanity metrics, where you provide an incentive for things that we don’t necessarily want to incentivize? [00:20:25] Venia tells us what GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) is and she highly recommends a lawyer, Suzanne Dibble, who has extensively covered GDPR. [00:24:20] Matt and Venia talk about places to start if people are looking for advice and what are things that are vanity looking but could end of being valuable. [00:30:37] Venia talks about communities being socio-cultural in nature and therefore they must be measured social scientifically. [0036:31] Matt and Venia give their takeaways from today’s conversation that you can hold onto when it comes to the idea of vanity metrics. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) Matt Broberg Twitter (https://twitter.com/mbbroberg?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Venia Logan Twitter (https://twitter.com/samanthavenia) MeasurementMarketing.io-Chris Mercer (https://measurementmarketing.io/) GDPR (General Data Protection Regulation) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation) Suzanne Dibble-GDPR (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Data_Protection_Regulation) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/)
Panelists Georg Link | Venia Logan | Don Marti | Nicole Huesman | Daniel Izquierdo Guest Ruth Cheesley (http://chaosscast.fireside.fm/guests/ruth-cheesley) Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes [00:02:56] Ruth tells us all about herself, her background, as well as what Mautic is and what they do. [00:04:41] Ruth shares with us what she’s doing with the metrics platform and how that has informed her work. [00:06:31] Nicole mentions Ruth’s blog and she recently launched a community health dashboard. Since within the CHAOSS project they work with different metrics around community health, she wonders which metrics does she find most useful and not as useful? She also explains how these metrics have affected her work since she’s made changes to the community over the last year. [00:09:27] Ruth tells us what her plan is moving forward to balance contributors with users of the platform who might be non-coding. Venia asks Ruth if she finds that you have to balance the demand of users using the platform but who can’t contribute with the amount of people contributing to the program? Are these viewed as two separate but inner connected communities or do you treat them as one large community? [00:11:52] Don wonders if Ruth sees a lot people who are active in both maintaining a plugin and then also contributing to core or perhaps being a maintainer on a plugin and then also a core contributor? [00:13:42] Daniel asks if Ruth if she has had any feedback from the community about privacy issues. She also explains how Mautic is handling the general PR of policy limiting what we can do as marketers. [00:18:18] With all these challenges and the features that the software needs to provide, Georg wants to know if this is something that the community takes up. Also, since Ruth said there’s a lot of education that needs to happen on how to use the tool properly, how does that get into the community? [00:20:38] Ruth talks about documentation and Mautic participating in a Google Season of Docs. [00:23:07] Nicole brings up something interesting Ruth brought up in her blog about a project that brings together contributors and makes them experts in a particular area of contribution where they’re contributing to features of a project. [00:25:56] Ruth fills us in on the community health report and the way she’s done it to inform people how to do it their own communities to great health and community empowerment. She also tells us if she uses a lot of qualitative data processes when building the report and what the conversations look like between the community members who read the report. [00:30:25] The topic of KPI’s and metrics being monitored is discussed here. [00:33:10] Integrating privacy tools and the challenge marketers face with the number of tools they have in their stack is discussed. Picks [00:37:55] Georg’s pick is Brandeis University Open Source Technology Management program-OSS Community course. [00:38:47] Venia’s pick is measurement starts with “good enough” and that is fine. [00:39:33] Don’s pick is “Hellobot” on Keybase. [00:40:37] Nicole’s pick is having the opportunity to garden. Also, she recommends a book she’s been reading called, Low Maintenance Gardening. [00:41:59} Daniel’s pick is aligning with the topic of COVID-19, he is amazed how resilient the Open Source industry really is and how everyone is worried, but we keep working and keep advancing. [00:42:52] Ruth’s pick is Savannah-Community Managers CRM. Links Ruth Cheesley Twitter (https://twitter.com/rcheesley?lang=en) Ruth Cheesley Bio (https://noti.st/rcheesley/bio) Ruth Cheesley Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/ruthcheesley/) Mautic.org (https://www.mautic.org/) Mautic Community Handbook (https://contribute.mautic.org/) CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) Keybase (https://keybase.io/) Hellobot (https://keybase.io/hellobot) The NEW Low-Maintenance Garden by Valerie Easton Savannah-GitHub (https://github.com/SavannahHQ/Savannah) Suzanne Dibble-GDPR (https://suzannedibble.com/gdpr/) Brandeis University announces commitment to open source movement (https://blogs.brandeis.edu/gps/2019/07/17/brandeis-announces-commitment-to-open-source-movement/) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Special Guest: Ruth Cheesley.
Panelists Venia Logan | Nicole Huesman | Brian Proffitt Guests Jono Bacon (https://chaosscast.fireside.fm/guests/jono-bacon) Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes [00:02:16] Jono gives us an introduction what he does and how he got into his job. [00:03:48] Nicole asks Jono what are some of the key strategies he’s used over the years to propel his career in community management and community strategy? [00:07:10] Venia wants to know how Jono ended up managing the role of community manager as he went through his early days. [00:09:52] Brian wants to know how Jono views the science part of the community health aspect of it and how has that evolved his experience, like early pioneer days to where we are now. [00:16:15] Jono talks about things that worry him with data and how in recent years we’ve become data fetishists. He also talks about Earl Madman Muntz who ran a TV factory and he needed to reduce costs. Great story here. [00:21:38] Jono explains why he’s a fan of aggregate evaluation of the value. He talks about a model he developed over the years called the Community Participation Lifecycle. [00:25:00] Brian asks Jono what he feels is the least understood aspect of being a Community Manager. [00:33:20] Venia wonders where Jono sees this phenomenon of open source community management moving forward as it permeates the closed economic spheres. [00:36:35] As we look at the CHAOSS project, Nicole wonders what role does Jono see the CHAOSS project playing in helping us understand the metrics of healthy communities and what would he like to see from the CHAOSS project. Picks [00:40:55] Jono’s pick is he likes the fact that people feel comfortable challenging him. [00:42:44] Brian’s pick is ways to find easy comfort points for new people coming into a community and making them feel a little more welcome without necessarily making drastic changes to your own community. [00:44:28] Venia’s pick is if there is someone you truly want to follow, you want to be like, see if they have something written, it could be a blog, a podcast, or a YouTube video. Hit them up! Maybe see if there’s some piece of content you can read. [00:45:27] Nicole’s pick is diving into the book, People Powered, by Jono Bacon, and building a relationship with folks and having thought provoking discussions with cross industry thoughtful discussions. Links Jono Bacon (https://www.jonobacon.com/) Jono Bacon Twitter (https://twitter.com/jonobacon?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) People Powered: How Communities Can Supercharge Your Business, Brand, and Teams by Jono Bacon Earl “Madman” Muntz (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman_Muntz) CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Special Guest: Jono Bacon.
Panelists Georg Link | Brian Proffitt | Nicole Huesman Guests Chris Aniszczyk (https://podcast.chaoss.community/guests/chris-aniszczyk) Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes [00:02:19] When we talk about community health, Chris tells us what comes to mind for him in the context of CNCF. He also tells us what his role is at CNCF. [00:06:03] Brian is curious to how Chris has adapted his metrics or if he’s adapted his metrics to compensate for the fact that he is in such an explosive mode of growth and has he made adjustments for that. [00:10:40] Chris talks about CNCF being a vendor neutral organization. [00:13:12] Nicole wants to know of all the different things Chris is measuring, are there a few that rise to the surface as either the most important or some things that have been aha moments or surprises for him. [00:15:43] Chris talks about how the view of diversity and inclusion is within the Cloud Native Community and some of the investments that he’s making there. [00:21:58] Nicole asks Chris to talk about the wonderful people working in the Cloud Native community. He discusses what percentage of men and women CNCF is comprised of and how they are part of the Linux Foundation. [00:26:28] Georg wants to know how CNCF does metrics for the governing board, technical committee, the project, SIG (Special Interest Group) for the working groups, or do they even go at that level. Also, DevStats provide metrics and how does that play into this. He also explains the annual report and how it all fits together. [00:31:27] Brian is curious to know from Chris how CNCF began their journey with metrics and where was the start? [00:34:15] Chris tells us how he views the roll of the CHAOSS project and what he would like to see from the CHAOSS project. [00:37:29] Chris tells us about the work he does at the TODO Group, which is a network of Open Source Program offices. [00:42:00] Chris gives us some advice for anyone starting out their open source program office journey. Picks [00:45:39] Georg’s pick is Percy Jackson Books by Rick Riordan. [00:46:03] Brian’s pick is for people to have recharge days. [00:46:58] Nicole’s pick is gravitating to provocative discussions such as the CHAOSScast Podcast as well as Code Together Podcast. [00:48:20] Chris’s picks are a Netflix show called, 13TH and a book called, White Fragility, by Robin DiAngelo. Links Chris Aniszczyk Twitter (https://twitter.com/cra?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Chris Aniszczyk Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/caniszczyk) Chris Aniszczyk Website (https://www.aniszczyk.org/) Cloud Native Computing Foundation (CNCF) (https://www.cncf.io/) Project Health Table DevStats (https://all.devstats.cncf.io/d/53/projects-health-table?orgId=1) Code Together Podcast-Nicole Huesman (https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/code-together/id1510537499?mt=2) Rick Riordan Books (https://rickriordan.com/) 13TH-Netflix (https://www.netflix.com/title/80091741) White Fragility by Robin DiAngelo (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/White_Fragility) TODO Group Survey (https://github.com/todogroup/survey) CNCF Annual Report 2019 (https://www.cncf.io/cncf-annual-report-2019/) CNCF Survey Data-GitHub (https://github.com/cncf/surveys?files=1) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Special Guest: Chris Aniszczyk.
Panelists Dawn Foster | Matt Germonprez | Sean Goggins | Georg Link | Don Marti Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes [00:02:43] Georg explains Open Source, Open Source Community, and Open Source Community Health. [00:04:25] The rest of the panelists give their opinions on Open Source Community Health. [00:08:04] Dawn talks about OpenSSL, which is an Open Source project that is in use by almost every single big company in the world but maintained by only a couple of people who could barely afford to do it. [00:08:45] Don wonders if Open Source Metrics would have helped companies address the OpenSSL situation before it became a headline problem? Sean and Dawn give their opinions. [00:10:00] Since Sean mentions sustainability, Georg asks Sean where’s the distinction between health and sustainability or is that the same thing? [00:11:47] Matt wants to know when you’re looking at a software community how much do you differentiate between looking at the community purely from a using the software perspective versus looking at the community from, I would like to contribute to this community? [00:15:24] We talk about the different working groups here and we talk about other ways that we can conceptualize other areas of community health. [00:17:10] Dawn makes a point to say when we talk about working groups, what we’re really talking about coming up with definitions for metrics and anyone can contribute. Don talks about different categories in which he thinks of metrics. [00:20:43] Sean asks Don if there are a lot of job postings for a particular technology? Does the fact there may be many jobs for Kubernetes right now and does that influence how many people participate in that project? How do people decide what to contribute to? [00:24:30] Sean wants to know from Dawn what are some of the things VMWare concentrates on and she lets us know. [00:29:08] The panellists talk about the different ways we can get insights to Open Source Community Health. [00:37:16] Don clarifies what he means when he says, “projects site each other.” [00:38:25] If you are interested in getting involved in CHAOSS find out here. Picks: [00:39:50] Georg’s pick is that he added some new fish, 10 Neon Tetras, to his aquarium. [00:40:19] Dawn’s pick is a picnic backpack. [00:41:02] Sean has two picks: Augur Slackbot and the importance of health. Please pay attention to your own health. [00:42:11] Don’s pick is he’s been having fun with the California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA). Links: CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) Neon Tetra (https://www.liveaquaria.com/product/1097/?pcatid=1097) Picnic Backpack (https://www.amazon.com/Sunflora-Backpack-Insulated-Waterproof-Outdoor/dp/B073CHBWC9) Augur Slackbot (https://github.com/augurlabs?language=javascript) California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/California_Consumer_Privacy_Act) OpenSSL (https://www.openssl.org/) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/)
Panelists Matt Broberg | Venia Logan | Sean Goggins | Georg Link Guests Ray Paik Manrique Lopez Valerio Cosentino Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes [00:02:33] We start here with learning about what measurement tools exist in the CHAOSS project. [00:07:06] Georg gives us some context on how Bitergia, GrimoireLab, Bitergia Analytics, and CHAOSS all relate to each other. [00:09:01] Manrique fills us in on why Open Source is relevant to what they’re doing with Bitergia and GrimoireLab. [00:10:37] Since Venia is the co-creator of one of the metrics, Matt is wondering when she looks at the GrimoireLab tool chain, how does that add value to what she’s looking to achieve with it? [00:12:41] Ray has a question for Manrique and Georg and wonders what have they benefited from joining CHAOSS and what have they been able to gain from being a part of a larger community? Also, have there been other benefits that they have gained from working with other software communities related to metrics? [00:16:04] Venia mentions how she wants to applaud Bitergia for how much they advertise CHAOSS and Bitergia being completely separate entities and she explains. [00:17:55] What is the goal of using GrimoireLab and what are some examples of people using it right now? [00:22:56] Ray tells us how he uses GrimoireLab. Also, Venia gives us her thoughts on dashboarding. [00:32:22] Sean is curious to know what kinds of choices are made in the design of the GrimoireLab technology to prohibit, prevent, or create some of transparency around anything that might be used to measure and individual? Also, since Git Log stores his identifying information organically, how do they handle that technically? Manrique answers these questions. [00:00:00] Matt asks Valerio if he has any stories or ideas that come to mind on how he chose to write the software that would be interesting to somebody that may not be as deep in the code as him? [00:39:12] Valerio is a mentor for Google Summer of Code participants and he’s going to tell us a little about what that is. Picks [00:48:00] Georg’s pick is a book by Benjamin Birkinbine called, “Incorporating the Digital Commons.” [00:48:50] Venia’s pick is a term that she always uses all the time from Chris Mercer, MeasurementMarketing.io which is, “The truth is in the trend, the power is in the pattern.” [00:49:42] Manrique’s picks are quotes he uses in his presentations. One is, “If you can’t measure it, you cannot improve it.” Another one is, “Without data you a just a person with an opinion.” [00:51:21] Ray’s pick is a great book called, “The Tyranny of Metrics,” by Jerry Z. Muller. [00:52:40] Valerio’s pick is valuable advice. He says,” Metrics are important, but you need to contextualize them, and you should not understand just the metric itself, but the people who contribute to your project. When you look at the data you should have an understanding of your community to see if you are not misrepresenting or misunderstanding the data you have. [00:53:24] Sean’s pick is a technical plug to a project called PlaidML. They have a cute logo too ☺! [00:54:25] Matt’s pick is that he recently upgraded his Linux laptop to Fedora 32. It’s fun to use! Links Manrique Lopez Twitter (https://twitter.com/jsmanrique) Valerio Cosentino Twitter (https://twitter.com/_valcos_?lang=en) Ray Paik Twitter (https://twitter.com/rspaik) GrimoireLab (https://chaoss.github.io/grimoirelab/) Bitergia (https://bitergia.com/) Google Summer of Code (https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/) “Incorporating The Digital Commons”-Benjamin Birkinbine (https://www.uwestminsterpress.co.uk/site/books/10.16997/book39/) MeasurementMarketing.io-Chris Mercer (https://measurementmarketing.io/) “The Tyranny of Metrics”-Jerry Z. Muller (https://www.amazon.com/Tyranny-Metrics-Jerry-Z-Muller/dp/0691174954) PlaidML (https://github.com/plaidml/plaidml) Fedora 32 (https://fedoramagazine.org/announcing-fedora-32/) GrimoireLab Install Blog Post (https://chaoss.community/blog-post/2019/10/08/simplifying-how-to-install-grimoirelab/) GrimoireLab’s Project Hero’s Journey Story (https://opensource.com/article/20/3/grimoirelab) GitHub Docker composer (https://opensource.com/article/20/3/grimoirelab) Cauldron (https://cauldron.io/) CHAOSScon Europe 2020 (https://chaoss.community/chaosscon-2020-eu/) CHAOSS Community Participate (https://chaoss.community/participate/) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Special Guests: Jose Manrique López de la Fuente, Ray Paik, and Valerio Cosentino.
Panelists Matt Broberg | Dawn Foster | Matt Germonprez | Georg Link Guest Sean Goggins (https://podcast.chaoss.community/hosts/seangoggins) Gabe Heim (http://chaosscast.fireside.fm/guests/gabe-heim) Carter Landis (http://chaosscast.fireside.fm/guests/carter-landis) Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes [00:02:23] Sean and Gabe explain what Augur is and how Augur is an integral part of the CHAOSS project. [00:04:37] Carter explains some of the things he’s helped the team accomplish recently with getting Augur to be really easy to install, run, and configure. [00:06:29] Gabe talks about how people are using Jupyter Notebooks with Augur. [00:07:44] Georg is curious to learn a little more about why they decided to go with a single relational database and what challenges they faced, if any, in unifying the data from all the different platforms that Open Source communities are collaborating on. [00:11:02] Matt B. asks the team if there is a given audience that this hits home for or if they are you finding community managers in Open Source space being a primary use case. [00:11:56] Sean, Gabe, and Carter discuss some of the successes they’ve had along the way with Augur. [00:16:14] Dawn talks about how Augur has been used in VMware’s Open Source Program Office. She also explains that Augur is more of a health tool. Find out why. [00:23:17] The team explains how stemming these relationships with VMWare, what does this lead to next for Augur and how do these relationships change the roadmap for what Augur can be. [00:27:58] If you are interested in exploring Augur and want to try it out, listen here to find out where Sean recommends you could start. Picks [00:32:19] Georg’s pick is a video game called, “Anno 1800.” [00:33:04] Dawn’s pick is a video game called, “Tabletop Simulator” on Steam. [00:33:44] Matt B.’s pick is an Open Source software called “Finicky.” [00:34:30] Matt G.’s pick is to give a BIG thanks to the Alfred P. Sloan Foundation, who’s been instrumental in funding the CHAOSS project since inception. [00:34:58] Sean’s pick is a gentleman named, Jordan Love, who is a quarterback with an incredibly strong arm, chosen by the Green Bay Packers in the recent NFL Draft. [00:35:26] Gabe’s pick is having a special 21st birthday quarantined with family and watching, “Money Heist” on Netflix. He says it’s very addicting! [00:36:28] Carter’s has two picks: One is a library for converting an OpenAPI Specification to Sphinx documentation. His other pick is an album called, “Room to Breathe,” by an artist named Low Hum. Links CHAOSS/Augur (https://github.com/CHAOSS/augur) Augur Project (https://github.com/AugurProject) Jupyter Notebook (https://jupyter.org/) Dr. Sean P Goggins Twitter (https://twitter.com/sociallycompute?lang=en) Sean P. Goggins. Ph.D (http://www.seangoggins.net/) Carter Landis GitHub (https://github.com/ccarterlandis) Gabe Heim GitHub (https://github.com/gabe-heim) “Anno 1800” (https://www.ubisoft.com/en-us/game/anno-1800/) “Tabletop Simulator” (https://store.steampowered.com/app/286160/Tabletop_Simulator/) Finicky (https://github.com/johnste/finicky) Alfred P. Sloan Foundation (https://sloan.org/) Jordon Love Twitter (https://twitter.com/jordan3love?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) “Money Heist” (https://www.netflix.com/title/80192098) Open API spec renderer for Sphinx (https://github.com/sphinx-contrib/openapi) “Room to Breathe” by Low Hum (https://www.amazon.com/Room-To-Breathe/dp/B07PKM5DWX) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Special Guests: Carter Landis and Gabe Heim.
Panelists Dawn Foster | Matt Broberg | Georg Link Guest Samantha Venia Logan (https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthavlogan/) Dylan Marcy (https://www.linkedin.com/in/dylan-marcy-a735ba9b/) Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes Welcome to this episode of CHAOSSCast! Today, we have special guests, Venia Logan and Dylan Marcy of SociallyConstructed.Online. They are here to do some introspection on the process CHAOSS follows for defining metrics and to demonstrate this using the Social Currency Metric System (SCMS). It is a very interesting topic and if you don’t know much about SCMS, then this podcast is definitely worth a listen. [00:04:00] Venia and Dylan introduce themselves, who they are, what they do, and brought them to CHAOSS. [00:09:55] Venia and Dylan share how they came about to develop the initiation of the social currency metric system. [00:14:54] Matt wants to know what it looks like to use SCMS (Social Currency Metric System) and Dylan explains. [00:18:03] Georg wants to know what the sentiment is and what are these comments that they are talking about. Are they issue comments in open source, issue trackers, emails, slack messages? What is the qualitative data? Dylan and Venia explain. [00:22:24] What role does sentiment analysis play into this whole system? Dylan and Venia have great responses. [00:28:11] Matt B. is curious to know if the dashboard is a choose your own adventure dashboard or is it a tool chain, like a set of dashboards that are predefined? Venia loves this question and explains. [00:33:18] Venia explains the very purpose of the Social Currency Metric System and Matt has an Aha moment . [00:39:01] Georg wants to know how did Venia and Dylan get from having this very frustrated situation with SCMS talking about they need to do something, and now they have a metric in the CHAOSS project. What was this process for them? Venia responds with “Magic” and explains. Dylan gives a response as well. [00:43:07] Dylan lets us know there’s a video to check out on sociallyconstructed.online that has tips, tricks, and tutorials. Picks [00:44:17] Georg’s pick is an aquarium he bought as the lockdown happened and he will be adding fish this week. Is has been bringing him much joy these past few weeks. [00:44:42] Matt’s pick is a plug for video games. He just wants people to do whatever brings them joy and calm in this unprecedented time. [00:45:42] Dawn’s pick is her balcony. She has finally cleaned it and bought some chairs for it and got to enjoy sitting outside. [00:46:56] Venia’s pick is looking at community management. “There’s being the bear, and there’s being the flower.” She is being more the flower. [00:47:39] Dylan’s pick is a saying, “This too shall pass!” We will all get through this global pandemic. Links SociallyConstructed.Online (https://www.sociallyconstructed.online/scms) SCMS (https://chaoss.community/metric-social-currency-metric-system/) Venia Logan Twitter (https://twitter.com/samanthavenia) Venia Logan Linkedin (https://www.linkedin.com/in/samanthavlogan) SamanthaVLogan Blog/Website (https://www.samanthavlogan.com/) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund (https://codefund.io/) Special Guest: Dylan Marcy.
Panelists Georg Link | Matt Broberg | Dawn Foster | Matt Germonprez Sponsor Linode (https://www.linode.com/) Show Notes Welcome to the very first CHAOSS Podcast! In this podcast, we will share use cases and experiences with measuring open source community health. There will be elevating conversations about metrics, analytics, and software from the Community Health Analytics Open Source Software or CHAOSS Project. It’s new, and new is always good. And hey, it’s got that new podcast smell ☺. Since this is the first episode, we’ll be finding out more about our panelists. Kick back, relax, and take a listen. [00:01:15] Dawn Foster has been in the industry for more than 20 years and she’s been working on Open Source software most of that time. She is currently at VMware where she is Open Source Community Strategy Lead. She started getting passionate about the open source software communities back in the early 2000’s when she was at Intel. Her interest in open source metrics really came out of feeling a need to justify her own existence. [00:04:14] Georg Link started his open source journey with a project at openoffice.org. This experience of having a resilient healthy community that can go do its own thing fascinated him. Now he is working as Director of Sales for Bitergia, which is a company out of Spain, that provides metrics and analytics for a software development project and open source projects for the last eight years. [00:05:44] Matt Broberg’s story with metrics is that he fell in love with community management early on. He was in tech support at a large storage vendor and in there he found out that he can build these communities of people that he truly enjoyed working with. Six years ago, he got a job focusing on open source. He fell in love with the ability for people to solve their own problem. He is currently the Technical Editor of Opensource.com. He is very excited to get this podcast off the ground! [00:08:42] Matt Germonprez is a Professor at the University of Nebraska-Omaha in the College of Information-Science and Technology. It started for him with a class he was having with a seminar session that was on open source. He had a former student give a guest talk virtually about open source and he explained about corporate engagement with open source and it blew his mind. They both ended up writing a grant to the National Science Foundation that got funded to explore the changing nature of open source work. They worked on this project for about 5 years and they got to explore why and how companies are engaged. [00:12:20] Matt G. tells us what the CHAOSS Project is and why it exists. [00:14:12] Is CHAOSS an Acronym or a Backronym? It’s a great story! [00:16:30] Dawn tells us the structure of CHAOSS and her involvement with it. [00:19:26] Matt B. tells us what is was like to come to the CHAOSS Project and what is his experience getting engaged since he came last the project. [00:22:12] Matt G. tells us we don’t have all the answers, but we work with anybody that wants to contribute to help find those answers of understanding community health better. Also, why did we start this podcast? Find out here ☺. Picks [00:28:33] Dawn’s pick is the Auger tool. [00:29:30] Matt B.’s pick is Awesome Zoom Backgrounds for your next zoom or video chat. He wants to make things more entertaining for you and add some backgrounds to your life because we all need some fun in our lives right now! [00:30:56] Georg’s pick is an interview between Jono Bacon and Jessica Deen on, “Open Source Community Health: Your Guide to Continuous (Community) Improvement.” [00:31:35] Matt G.’s pick is a meeting he was at with Chan Zuckerberg Initiative, which was about funding for scientific open source software. Links CHAOSS (https://chaoss.community/) Auger (https://auger.ai/) Awesome Zoom Backgrounds (https://github.com/mbbroberg/awesome-zoom-backgrounds) Interview with Jono Bacon and Jessica Deen (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ak0UubFf3BM&feature=emb_logo) Chan Zuckerberg Initiative (https://chanzuckerberg.com/) Dawn Foster Twitter (https://twitter.com/geekygirldawn?lang=en) Matt Germonprez Twitter (https://twitter.com/germ?lang=en) Georg Link Twitter (https://twitter.com/GeorgLink?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor) Matt Broberg Twitter (https://twitter.com/mbbroberg?lang=en) Credits Produced by Justin Dorfman at CodeFund Edited by Paul M. Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Show notes by DeAnn Bahr at Peachtree Sound (https://www.peachtreesound.com/) Ad Sales by Eric Berry at CodeFund