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The weekly worship gathering of Tapestry church in Stevens Point, WI. Lindsay Groves Sausser speaks on abiding in Jesus. John 15:1-17. a non-series message at Tapestry Church in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. Lindsay Groves Sausser talks with us about abiding in the vine.
The Gospel of According to John message series of Tapestry Church in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. John 11:38-57. Jesus’s message was seen as a threat … because it was to at least the Status Quo.
The July 16, 2023 worship gathering of Tapestry Church in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. John 11:17-37. Those around Jesus experienced Lazarus death and responded with references to the past and the future. Jesus changed things in the present.
The July 9, 2023 worship gathering of Tapestry Church in Stevens Point Wisconsin. Today we sing, pray, and discuss John 11:1-16. Jesus cared even when He waited.
The weekly worship gathering of Tapestry Church in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. Today we sing, pray, and discuss John 10:22-41.
The weekly worship gathering of Tapestry Church in Stevens Point. Today we pray, sing, and talk about John 10:1-21.
The May 14, 2023 worship gathering of Tapestry Church in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. John 6:25-71. Jesus is the bread of life – He is what gives life its meaning and purpose.
The May 7, 2023 worship gathering of Tapestry Church in Stevens Point, Wisconsin. John 6:16-24. In a world full of chaos and a lack of control we have a secure anchor in Jesus.
The 3rd week of Lent at Tapestry Church in Stevens Point. In Exodus 17:1-7 we see Israel and Moses not really respond in faith, but the gospel isn’t about our faith. It is about the faithfulness of Jesus.
Lenten 3 – 3 12 2023 – exodus 17 1-7.mp3
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Would you join me in prayer?
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Father, may we be near to you.
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We know that doesn’t come from our actions.
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It comes from your faithfulness and your steadfastness.
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So help us to be near to you.
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I pray this in your son’s name. Amen.
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Please have a seat if you’d like.
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11 way to kill it? I mean way to kill it 2 some of you had the mystery of the Lord’s Supper ruined for you as you saw me suddenly realize that I had left the grape juice out in the vehicle and run outside to get it and then have to cut it out of the package of Welches.
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I’m going to use that because I am a preacher and therefore everything is always an illustration, but I’m going to use it actually.
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With the music.
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Cause one just did.
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I mean, yes, they did an amazing job.
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But you let us and I appreciate that.
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And I don’t know about you, but I enjoy that moment where it’s like.
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I’m in this.
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And it’s easy to get into that moment and enjoy that feeling because that is a feeling that we don’t just have at church.
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You may have been at a concert before or at a musical.
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Pam and I will go to Les Mis next year because Les Mis is coming to Appleton.
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Kaylee apparently knows that cause.
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She is smiling greatly and when they get up there and start waving the flag and singing.
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The songs of Angry Man.
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I’m going to feel like going outside and fighting for something.
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We enjoy that feeling.
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It’s purpose and connection.
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But singing in the church, while it does produce that feeling is not about that feeling.
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People want just that sometimes.
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There was.
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Real worship, because we experience that feeling but singing in the church is so that we say the same thing at the same time so that we help each other to remember. It teaches us our theology. It reminds us of God’s faithfulness singing in the church.
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Which is so that when you are in the midst of that pit in the midst of that darkness, you have words that come back to you and you say nearer to God and my God to thee.
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When you don’t feel like his presence is anywhere around you at all.
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Singing in the church is about.
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Leading to life.
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And the feeling comes with it.
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But it’s never just about the feeling.
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Our concerts and our plays are about the feeling.
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The reason I bring it up is the Lord suffers the same way.
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I get these warm fuzzies with.
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The Lord’s supper.
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When I when I say the words or when I hear someone else say the words, whenever you do this, do this in remembrance of Maine.
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It produces that feeling in me, but the Lord’s supper, while it does produce those feelings, is never just about those feelings.
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It’s about reminding us of what the Lord has done.
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So that we remember, he will do it again.
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It’s about uniting us in that group. I talked earlier about the church growing at its fastest time period from 100 to 300 a day.
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It’s really remarkable if you look at the coinage of the Roman Empire and 100 Caesars are on the coin and 300 suddenly Christian Saints are on the coins.
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The largest empire in the world has changed by 120 people in an upper room.
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Over 300 years, it’s remarkable.
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And that’s not because they got warm fuzzies for the Lord’s supper. It’s because the Lord’s Supper prepared them to live that lifeout.
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So what we’re about to do, hopefully you feel unity and when you see this on video, you feel unity and that’s a good feeling.
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Don’t hear me say that it’s wrong.
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It’s not.
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But it’s not just about that feeling.
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It’s about.
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Producing in us the life that follows Jesus, it’s about producing us the life that remembers that he is faithful, even when we don’t feel like following him.
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It’s always coming back to life.
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It’s never just about the emotional element.
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The emotions are meant to help encourage that.
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But it’s always about coming back to, well, I always think of Nacho Libre when I say this phrase to the nitty gritty, OK.
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It’s about the stuff that happens outside of this when we don’t have the warm fuzzies.
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So we’re going to do the Lord’s Supper.
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And for that reason, I’m kind of glad that the mystery was broken, that I forgot to take the bread out of the plastic bag that the hotties put it in.
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Because when everything goes right.
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It’s easy for us to focus on the emotions.
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When it doesn’t go right.
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We have to remember what it’s actually all about.
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So what is this all about?
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It’s about us remembering the Lord’s death until he comes.
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It’s about us remembering that he took a bunch of scallywags, a bunch of people who had no worth in and of themselves, the weak and the people who were perceived as strong but were actually weak.
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The people who others thought had resources and were rich but actually saw themselves as fallen.
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And him making a family out of that brothers and sisters.
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They aren’t warm emotions that happen with that.
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But the daily life is the important thing.
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So therefore.
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Let’s remember.
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Paul tells us in the 11th chapter of his letter to the Corinthians that he gave the Corinthians what the Lord had given to them.
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And that was that.
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On the night that he was betrayed.
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When he was about to go to be crucified and he he knew his death was coming, he took elements that were around him for a remembrance of God’s setting the captives free from his from Egypt.
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He took those elements and he then used them as a way to remember his death until he comes to unite a new family.
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That would no longer just be made of the chosen people, but would be able to declare chosen those who had been thought unworthy.
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So on that night.
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He took the bread.
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He gave thanks for it.
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He broke it.
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And he shared it with his friends.
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And he said whenever you eat this.
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It is a reminder of my body.
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Remember my death.
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Until I come.
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In the same manner.
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Took the cop that was in.
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Front of him.
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And he said whenever you drink this cup.
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As a reminder of my blood.
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Blood of the new covenant.
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Which was shed for you.
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He said this to people that had promised that they would be with him to the end and yet they ran away in fear.
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He said this to people who said you are the chosen one.
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You are the Messiah and yet they sold him for 30 pieces of silver.
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And he said it in love.
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Not an irony.
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He said it in love to every person there who he would wash their feet literally.
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This is not about your faithfulness.
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It is not about you getting it right.
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You will never get it right.
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I will never get it right.
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This is about the steadfastness of Jesus.
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He loves you and he loves me.
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So would you join me in prayer in asking the Lord’s blessing as we remember him? And then when you are ready, come up here.
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I will serve the first person.
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I’ll give you a piece of bread.
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I will ask you to take that piece of bread and dip it into the juice.
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And as you taste, the tartness of the grapes and you feel the texture of the bread, I ask that you remember.
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And I will say remember and what are you remembering? You’re remembering the Lord’s death until he comes.
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Because that death and that resurrection make us family, and we now get to live that family out.
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And that is the greatest witness of the.
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Way of Jesus.
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When they’re forsaken or claimed, when people who have nothing in common other than Jesus say that is all that’s necessary and we come together as a family.
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We remember his death.
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We proclaim his resurrection, and we know that he will come back again.
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So would you join with me in prayer?
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Most gracious father.
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We desperately need your help to remember.
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We have promised again and again that we would.
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But since the fall, our hearts are bent towards unfaithfulness rather than faithfulness.
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But your character is always the same.
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You are the God who accepts us.
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When we are prodigal and run back to you, and we barely ever take a step to you before we realized that you were running towards us.
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So today.
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Even if only for a brief moment.
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Help us to remember.
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I pray, father that you bless us through this bread and through this juice.
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You bless us with memory.
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I pray this in your son’s name.
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When you were ready, come and remember.
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Thank you.
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I’m gonna steal my stool from you.
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Also, you are a very brave man.
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So we’re in the third week of the Linton season and I am not a very creative person most of the time.
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I think I.
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Every now and then to into thinking that I’m a creative person, but I basically just repeat the same stuff over and over and over again.
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And that’s what’s going to happen today.
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But I’m going to begin by telling you a story.
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Most of you can tell even though.
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Like this is.
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We’re low attendance today because of daylight savings time and snow.
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But we’re a young church.
00:14:06 Robert
I mean, it’s it’s really weird to me.
00:14:08 Robert
I was talking with somebody this week on a church.
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That’s a good bit bigger than us and and as a result of the age we have like.
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Probably 4 times as many kids as they do.
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It’s it’s really kind of weird in the history of the church.
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I have performed one funeral.
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Because like Pam and I today are the senior adults in the room.
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OK, we don’t have very many, and I’m thankful for the ones we do.
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My mother and Jan and Jan, if you’re watching this, we miss you.
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We need you back here soon.
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I’m glad you’re someplace warm.
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But we need you back here soon.
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But we’ve done a lot of weddings, a whole lot of weddings.
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Part of that, maybe because if you’re active in the church, I tell people I don’t want you to pay me anything.
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You can give me a gift, but I don’t want you to pay me.
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And so a gift is not like.
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Here’s a check the gift.
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So like one of my favorite gifts ever was somebody gave me a fishing lure and they bought a fishing kit from World Vision and the fishing lure was just the way they told me about it.
00:15:08 Robert
It was wonderful. Made my day. If you see it. So I did Nathan Elizabeth’s wedding. And if you ever see me riding, I have pain ears.
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Which are the bags that you put in the back of my bike?
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Because they gave me those as my wedding gifts, my wedding gift?
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That sounds weird.
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My quote.
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Efficient fee.
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So one of the first weddings I did for the church was for somebody.
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Who helped start the church and his name is Anthony.
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He lives in Stevens Point and I what I I honestly don’t really enjoy doing weddings.
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I enjoy helping people prepare marriages.
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There’s a difference.
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OK, so I love premarital counseling.
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Love it?
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It’s the most fun thing.
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I don’t like even for people outside the church is like, here’s what I charge for you outside the church for me to do the fee or do the wedding cause I just don’t want to.
00:16:02 Robert
But I don’t charge a dime for premarital counseling like I do that for free.
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I don’t want.
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Any money for?
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That, and I did all their premarital counseling.
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It was just really into it.
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Did the wedding.
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The wedding went off without a hitch.
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It was wonderful.
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Everybody comes up afterwards and you know, with the preacher, what you do is you walk.
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That’s just really good, preacher.
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It’s just really good, really good.
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I just appreciate it.
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And people were just real thankful.
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And then we went to the banquet.
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And Anthony got up and he did this.
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Just lovely speech.
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And he started saying before we eat, we’re going to ask somebody to thank the Lord for the food.
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And what you need to know is this is somebody who has just has really meant the world to me and my my faith in Jesus and.
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Has also meant a lot to my bride.
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He’s just helped us so much in preparing for our our marriage.
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Not only our wedding, but our marriage.
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And we are so thankful for him.
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And I gotta be honest and say I started to turn red at this point and I started to get a little embarrassed.
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And Anthony kept on talking.
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You ever hear somebody?
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Praising you and you’re just like I just want.
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Him to kind of stop.
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And Anthony goes well, we’re going to ask him in just a second to come up here and thank the Lord for the food because we’ve been so thankful for his prayer.
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And I finally had just reached a point like I am turning bright red and I stood up and said, Anthony, you, it’s enough.
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I will gladly come and say the prayer for the meal for him to say.
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I’m sorry, Robert.
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I was talking about Uncle Joe.
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Oh yeah.
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This is not a preacher story.
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This is completely true.
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Everybody in the room staring at me.
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One sweet little old lady at another table looks over at me and goes.
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I thought he was talking about you too.
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I want you to think while we’re reading the scripture.
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Of a time where you just completely didn’t get it.
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Where you were sure you knew what was going on and you just did not get it.
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Because that’s what I was feeling at that moment.
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So this is what the word of the Lord says.
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This is from the.
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17th chapter of.
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The Book of Exodus.
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We’re going to read verses one through 7.
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This is what the word Lord says.
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Can you operate it for me?
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Thank you, Sir.
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The whole Israelite community set out from the desert of sin, traveling from place to place as the Lord commanded.
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They camped at Rafidi M Rafidi M, but there was no water for the people to drink, so they quarreled with Moses and said give us water to drink.
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Moses replied.
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Why do you quarrel with me?
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Why do you put the Lord to the test?
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But the people were thirsty for water there, and they grumbled against Moses and they said, why did you bring us up out of Egypt to make us and our children and livestock die of thirst?
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Then Moses cried out to the Lord.
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What am I to do with these people?
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They are almost ready to stone me.
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The Lord answered Moses go out in front of the people, take with you some of the elders of Israel, and take in your hand the staff with which you struck the Nile.
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And go.
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I will stand there before you by the rock at Horeb.
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Strike the rock and the water will come out of it for all the people to do.
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So Moses did this in the sight of the Elders of Israel, and he called that place Masa and Miraba because the Israelites quarrelled, and because they tested the Lord saying, is the Lord among us or not.
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Now think of that passage that we just read.
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The people of Israel.
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Have just come out of just absolute slavery.
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They’re in the desert, wandering around now, but they’ve been set free and they have seen God do miraculous things.
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And that’s important because our faith is a faith of miraculous things also.
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OK, it is not just giving us good intellectual.
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Basis for things.
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It’s not about ethics, it’s not for us to just come here and think through things.
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We call upon the Lord and we ask him to do the impossible because we have seen him do the impossible before, and the Israelites case.
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Here’s just some of the things that they had seen him do.
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OK, Charles.
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There we go.
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Was that you or was that me?
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That was you.
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Go ahead.
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So here’s a few of the things just pop them for a few times.
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They’re freed from slavery.
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Israel crossed the Red Sea on dry land.
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So think of this.
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They were not just freed from slavery by nobody.
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They were not freed from slavery by a group of people that were about to fall.
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This was Egypt, the most powerful nation in the world.
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At that time.
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And the Israelites were held captive, and God made it possible for them to not only be set free, but set free where they they literally looted the Egyptians as they were leaving, not by purposely taking their stuff, but by the Egyptians giving them stuff, giving them gold that they eventually turn into a false idol.
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Giving them things while they’re leaving.
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They are set free and then as they think they’re about to be attacked and killed, they cry out to the Lord and the Lord makes a way for them to make it across on dry land in the midst of the red or the Reed Sea.
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Next one place.
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While he’s doing that, he not only uses the dry land.
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To make it to where they’re able to go free, but he then reverses the process and destroys the most powerful army at the time in front of them, without them having to do anything.
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Next one place, they complain saying we have nothing to eat after they have just seen God do all of this and God provides them with manna, which.
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One of the best words in all of Scripture.
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Does anybody know what manna means?
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What is it?
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And apparently it tasted really good.
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But it’s just I love the work.
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What is it?
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God provides food out of nothing for them.
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And they eat this and they get their fill, and he provides every day for them, and then they begin to complain, saying we need meat.
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Next one, please.
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And what does he do?
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He provides them with quail. They have seen this again in matter of fact, if you look at the previous two chapters, we just read 171516 and 17.
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All three are God meeting needs as the people of Israel grumble, and what I don’t want you hearing here is this mindset of.
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Oh my gosh.
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They just forgot what terrible people they are.
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They should have remembered.
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Let’s see if it works this time.
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It does not go ahead and hit it.
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They should have remembered all that God had done.
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But the reality is since the fall, our bent is not towards faithfulness but towards unfaithfulness.
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We forget things right and left.
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God did incredible things, but those things were in the past, and the thing we’re facing right now seems so big because the miraculous things that were done in the past, they shrink in our memory.
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And the things we face right now.
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Seem so monstrous.
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People of Israel are no different than we are.
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Maybe they’re different from you, but I forget all the time I have seen God do incredible things.
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I have cried out to him for help and he has more than provided.
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And I still forget.
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One of the things I love about Lent is it’s a reminder of discipline, but one of the things I hate about Lent is it’s very easy for us to think that the message of the gospel is about discipline.
00:24:36 Robert
I need that reminder of discipline.
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OK, I know that my life works better when I wake up earlier.
00:24:41 Robert
As much as I don’t like daylight savings time, and I really don’t like it now.
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Because Mariah gave me 3 reasons more to despise it.
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I know that because I woke up earlier today and I shoveled my driveway, my life will be easier when I go home and there’s still more snow and the stupid plow truck.
00:24:59 Robert
And please forgive me for saying stupid kids, but I really don’t like the plow truck.
00:25:04 Robert
OK, the the the plow truck will have come by and there will be a big.
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Mound on the front of my driveway and I know it’s not going to be enjoyable, but I know because of the fact I had the discipline this morning to to shovel.
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It’s going to be better.
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Discipline isn’t good.
00:25:23 Robert
But the temptation is to think.
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It’s about our discipline.
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The disciplines of lent, the things we give up, the things we take on, can very easily be if I do all of this, I will remember.
00:25:42 Robert
And the story of Israel again and again and again is.
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They forget, but even more importantly, the story of Israel again and again is how did God respond when they forgot?
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He provides water.
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He provides meat.
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It provides manna to people that are complaining.
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Going did you just bring us out here to die?
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It’s not even like we can really compare and contrast with Moses, which hit the next slide place.
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Moses doesn’t do a great job here either.
00:26:19 Robert
This is Moses’s prayer. OK, it says he cried out. Excuse me. This is their prayer. Would you hit the next line or their statement and then hit the side after that?
00:26:29 Robert
It says cried out to the Lord. What does it mean to cry out to the Lord? That’s prayer. Moses’s prayer here is not God. I’ve seen you do remarkable stuff before.
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You’ve brought these people out.
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I need you to do it now.
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He expresses just frustration.
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What am I to do with these people?
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They’re almost ready to stone me.
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This is not a stellar moment for most.
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He’s supposed to be their.
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Leader and he’s just like I.
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Am fed up with them.
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He’s the one that God has expected to stand up all the time, saying you have to protect these people because it reflects on your name.
00:27:09 Robert
We’ve seen God call him to that again and again, where Moses has said Father, you have to take care of your people.
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It reflects on you, but that’s not what he’s doing here.
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He’s forgotten too.
00:27:24 Robert
Moses is no different than the people of Israel.
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He’s just as big a failure.
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He messes up just like everyone else.
00:27:34 Robert
That’s why I love Lent, but I see the danger of Lent to I mentioned this image that Sarah Reeve sent to actually sent it to Pam to share.
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To me this past week I’m going to do it just because I think it’s fine about Lent.
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Would you hit the next slide?
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It says this.
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You come from dust.
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You will return to dust.
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That’s why I don’t dust.
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It could be somebody I know.
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We focus on Lent because in, in Lent we remember that we came from dust and we will return to dust.
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But the answer to that that is not.
00:28:07 Robert
I will work harder to be faithful.
00:28:10 Robert
The answer to that is I depend on God’s steadfastness.
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I depend on his faithfulness.
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Yes, we should try to discipline ourselves.
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But you are going to fail.
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I am going to fail.
00:28:23 Robert
One time I’m not going to shovel my driveway and we all know what happens then it’s just going to get worse and worse.
00:28:30 Robert
And when you don’t shovel your driveway once and the mound forms, it becomes all the more difficult to shovel it later on.
00:28:38 Robert
This is the time of season where if you look around at driveways, what happens is people say I’m not shoveling anymore.
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And it builds up until it finally gets warm enough to melt it.
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They go.
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I’m just going to depend upon the sun to do.
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The beauty is in our faith, while God calls us to be faithful, he understands that our bent again and again and again is towards unfaithfulness.
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We are constantly saying, did God really say this to use the words of the serpent?
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It’s what the people of Israel were saying.
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He brought us out of that, but he brought us here to die.
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Did he really say he was going to set us free?
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Lent is a constant reminder of God’s faithfulness.
00:29:26 Robert
Which is the next line now in in the Christian tradition, this story, the rock is a reminder of Jesus.
00:29:35 Robert
And why is it a reminder of Jesus?
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It’s a reminder of Jesus, because Jesus talks about how he will give to us living water.
00:29:42 Robert
If you remember, we were going through the Gospel of John before.
00:29:46 Robert
Lent began, and we read through the 4th chapter of the Gospel of John the two weeks before Lent began.
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And in that passage.
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Jesus goes and has a drink of water with a Samaritan woman.
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He asked her for a drink but tells her that he can give her water.
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He can give her water that will fill her up for the rest.
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Of her life.
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And the Christian tradition has come back and and looked at the story and realized that Moses could not take care of his people.
00:30:19 Robert
He could not free them, they could not remember and.
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The call was.
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Just to simply hit the rock.
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And if you hit the rock, water comes.
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Out of it.
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And therefore the church has constantly come back and said the rock is a symbol of Jesus because that’s what we do on Lent.
00:30:38 Robert
The reminder of Lent is not to say discipline yourself harder, even though we need the discipline, it is not to say you have sinned and you have to pull yourself out of that, even though we need to remind you that we have.
00:30:49 Robert
End the discipline and the reminder of Lent is that Jesus Christ is the one who.
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Gives us.
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That he is the one we fall upon, and living water comes out.
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He is the one we hit, and living water comes and that’s the whole purpose of church.
00:31:04 Robert
Every Sunday is not to beat us up and make us think how terrible we are, but to realize that we have a need and to come and to hit the rock.
00:31:13 Robert
And sometimes you hit the rock much like the prodigal son.
00:31:16 Robert
Who runs and falls into the arms of the father?
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We hit the rock literally just by collapsing on Jesus.
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And yet water still comes forth.
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It doesn’t come forth because you are so great that you go.
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I will study Jesus well enough to get hope from him.
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It comes because Jesus is the one who just gives us living water.
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He gives us hope.
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It’s never about our faithfulness.
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It’s always about his.
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And you can think of times right now.
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Where you knew you weren’t faithful.
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Where you knew you had every reason to believe that Jesus was going to take care of the situation he was going to give you the hope he was.
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Going to help you to make it through it.
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And you were still going?
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Did I just come here to fall down?
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Did I come here to die here?
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We are all like Israel.
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But Jesus Christ is always faithful.
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Regardless of what you’re going through now.
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Worry, anxiety, feelings of inadequacy.
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He is always faithful.
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It’s a simple message.
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There’s nothing life changing about it.
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Except for the fact it’s completely life changing.
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The world will say work harder.
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The message of the gospel is.
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That the Lord is with you.
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If you look, the people of Israel ask that at the end, would you hit the next sign?
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Is the Lord among us or not any interesting?
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They’re longing for water. They’re thirsty, and their question is, is the Lord among us or not? Because if the Lord’s there, they know that he’ll provide.
00:33:33 Robert
We just forget far too easily.
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And what we always have to try to remember, and we have to trust that even when we can’t remember it, he will still be faithful.
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Is that the answer is always yes.
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Always yes.
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So you come to church today, you watch the video today with your struggles.
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And what I want you to do.
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Is if you can’t hit the rock and receive the living water, allow somebody else to hit the rock and remind you of the living water.
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Because when we approach Jesus and fall on him, he.
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Always provides hope.
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So before I close this out, does anybody have anything to add?
00:34:18 Robert
Go for it, Juan.
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Like they weren’t Moses, so they didn’t have.
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The privilege of talking.
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Directly to God.
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And they saw.
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A lack of needs and needs not being met.
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So they were in a dire.
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Situation just to see if he.
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Has always great things to have.
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Like I find myself kind of empathizing with.
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The Israelites here because.
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You know, I have been in a desert without water.
00:34:51 Robert
Yeah. Yeah, metaphorically.
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You know.
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Is it is wrong or?
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What could be Israelis have?
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How could they responded better other than?
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You know the obvious, sort of just.
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Like try not to.
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Sell your leader.
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Turning back on that, but like.
00:35:12 Robert
All right.
00:35:14 Robert
And and wanting to be honest and say what I’m struggling with is the word wrong there.
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Because I think Scripture shows again and again.
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Jesus is really OK with us coming and doing things that we would think we’re wrong with other people.
00:35:26 Robert
Like, oh, if you love me, you would trust me type thing and he seems to be OK with that a lot.
00:35:32 Robert
One of the things I actually love is.
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The Israelites come to Moses and come to God, even though they’re doubting them, they still come to Moses and come to God, and we see examples of that.
00:35:43 Robert
You actually see examples of that Jesus and the garden of Jasmine is like I don’t want to do this and he’s he’s arguing with the father to some extent.
00:35:51 Robert
But you have examples of this and some of the heroes of the faith.
00:35:54 Robert
One of my favorite actually is.
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This is Theresa Varvil.
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She has a dream with Jesus.
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No, this is a dream.
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OK.
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This is not scripture, but she’s interpreting scripture through her dreams and her dream basically as her complaining.
00:36:10 Robert
Saying I don’t like this situation at all and Jesus saying Theresa, this is how I treat my friends and her response is Lord.
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No wonder you have so few.
00:36:20 Robert
And the thing that I like that the the Israelites are doing here is they’re not trusting while trusting at the exact same moment.
00:36:28 Robert
You only complain to the person saying.
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Why aren’t you doing this when you expect that person to do that?
00:36:34 Robert
If that makes any sense.
00:36:36 Robert
So I I struggle with the word wrong there because.
00:36:39 Robert
He knows who we are.
00:36:41 Robert
We never kind of sneak up on him and and suddenly surprise him with our fallen and untrustworthy nature.
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He knows exactly who I am.
00:36:49 Robert
The fact that I I can trust very easily at one moment and then I struggle with an entirely different moment.
00:36:54 Robert
That truthfully for other people may seem insignificant, and for me it’s this mountain that I just can’t get over.
00:37:01 Robert
And so were they wrong.
00:37:02 Robert
I don’t know.
00:37:03 Robert
What I know is that even in their unbelief, they still somehow believed.
00:37:08 Robert
And and I don’t want to point it out like they failed.
00:37:12 Robert
Probably they didn’t, but they didn’t succeed either. It’s completely about God’s success in the sense of his character is he’s there.
00:37:21 Robert
I mean literally one of his names is Emmanuel.
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God with us.
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When he chose to give us a name.
00:37:27 Robert
Part of that name is just this constant reminder of, oh, I’m there.
00:37:31 Robert
Ohh I’m there.
00:37:32 Robert
Think of the the the really holy names of God.
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It’s so much about who he is.
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I am that I am.
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He gives names that say this is his character and one of his names is.
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I’m with you even when you don’t think I’m there.
00:37:46 Robert
So I know I’m not answering your question, but is that kind of answering your question?
00:37:52
It’s just hard not to put yourself in.
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The shoes of the Israelites.
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Obviously they’re the ones.
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That we’re supposed to be kind.
00:38:08 Robert
That’s so.
00:38:11 Robert
Part of the danger of of Linton practices and spiritual disciplines is it can make it come back to if you do the right things, then you’ll remember.
00:38:19 Robert
And that’s never the message.
00:38:20 Robert
So I, to be honest, I kind of hope you fail with your Lenten practices.
00:38:24 Robert
I I have.
00:38:25 Robert
OK, it’s part of the beauty of like I can’t do.
00:38:28 Robert
I can’t even do this simple thing.
00:38:30 Robert
I can’t even give up social media effectively.
00:38:33 Robert
I can’t even do that.
00:38:35 Robert
So how am I going to do the big things?
00:38:39 Robert
And it’s not like I don’t have to do anything.
00:38:42 Robert
It’s that I can’t do anything really significant.
00:38:46 Robert
And he knows that.
00:38:46 Robert
And he loves that.
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And he still calls me to be holy.
00:38:49 Robert
He still calls me to try, but.
00:38:50 Robert
He knows I’m gonna fail.
00:38:52 Robert
I’m going to forget that he not only forgave me, but he overcame this big thing in the past.
00:38:57 Robert
This probably bigger than what I’m dealing with right now.
00:38:59 Robert
He’s overcome that in the past.
00:39:02 Robert
And he knows I’m going to forget that and I’m going to focus on this other thing.
00:39:05 Robert
That may be a really big deal right now, but I have every reason to believe that he will take care of it.
00:39:10 Robert
I’m going to forget that.
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And he’s not going to turn his back on.
00:39:14 Robert
I think the temptation so often is to think that God reaches a point of that’s it.
00:39:19 Robert
I’ve had enough.
00:39:21 Robert
I am over it.
00:39:23 Robert
The covenant was.
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You will be my people and I will be your God and you have not been my people.
00:39:27 Robert
So I’m not going to be your God anymore, but the story of the gospel again and again and again is that he will be our God regardless of whether or not we live as his people, though he’ll still call us to be like to to live as his people.
00:39:41 Robert
He is faithful when all others, including me, myself and I, fail to be faithful.
00:39:50 Robert
You got anything you want to add to that?
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And what I love is that really is good news.
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Because it it makes our burden, the one we receive from Jesus really light.
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And that yoke.
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Very easy and all the other burdens.
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Are really difficult.
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Anybody else got something?
00:40:16 Robert
OK, then I’m going to end with with this cheesy little joke that everybody in the room is too young to to get, and I don’t think my wife knows rock music enough well enough to know this.
00:40:27 Robert
This is all about timing here, Charlie.
00:40:29 Robert
If I had my clicker so the Israelites ask is the Lord among us or not?
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And the answer is.
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Always. Are you ready?
00:40:41 Robert
This is the 1970s band, Yes.
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Did you know who they were?
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Ohh, aren’t you spiffy?
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Would you join with me in our closing prayer, please?
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Praise God from whom all blessings from praise him.
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All creatures here be lo.
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Praise him.
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Above ye heavenly ho.
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Praise Father, son and Holy Ghost.
00:41:40 Robert
When you failed this week, when you fail this Linton season.
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When you don’t remember.
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Hopefully one little small speck of you will remember that he does.
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He is still there with you.
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He is always gracious.
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It’s who he is.
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I hope that brings hope to you and I hope that is good news to you.
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Cause it is to me.
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Have a great week.
00:42:09 Robert
Those of you on video, thanks for joining us.
00:42:11 Robert
Have a great week everybody be safe.
The second message in Tapestry Lenten message series of 2023 from the Sunday, March 5, 2023 worship gathering. John 3:1-17. Jesus talked about a new birth. What does that mean for us during the Lenten season?
Autogenerated TranscriptLenten 2 3 5 2023 John 3 1-17.mp3
Transcript
00:00:01 Robert
Thank you, Adam, by the way.
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Strings are not here.
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Maidan’s Long John is up for auction. Do I do I have a bid? Basically, who would like a long John?
00:00:14 Robert
There we go.
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If I throw it, it’s gonna be it’s gonna be destroyed.
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So I’m gonna wait for you to.
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Come up there.
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And get it.
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Well, guess what you have.
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A long John.
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Now you only stole it from a it.
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Made us three, I think.
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So you only stole it from a four year old.
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If, if she blames anybody, I’m gonna throw you under the bus.
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Just so you know, OK.
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OK so.
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Basically, I’m going to be referencing pretty much everyone of Lindsey and Jason songs because those were realistically the sermons, so.
00:00:51 Robert
If you remember anything from the Gospel of John that we have been talking through, and I don’t ever expect anyone to remember any of the the sermons, I’m always honored when you do remember any of the messages, but the reality is most of what we do in church is we just try to remind each other the grace of God.
00:01:07 Robert
If you get that and you can live that out during the week.
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That is a wonderful thing.
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It’s not about.
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More biblical knowledge is about more interaction with Jesus.
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So if you remember anything, the text that we are about to go through, you’re going to go, huh?
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We talked about that about four weeks ago because what we’re doing is we are going through the scriptures that are typically used in Lent.
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So this is one of those, but we’ve already talked about a little bit.
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I’m going to turn this down.
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’cause I can hear it.
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Does it sound like?
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It’s ringing just a little bit to you guys.
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OK, well, it does to me just a teeny bit.
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This is why I like it when Eric is here.
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Because Eric immediately adjust the sound.
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So if you have your Bibles or if you have a bulletin around you or a phone, or if you just want to look behind me, this is the word of the Lord and Mr.
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You’re going to operate this.
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So I can thank you.
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This is what the word of the Lord.
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Now there was a Pharisee, a man named Nicodemus who was a member of the Jewish ruling Council.
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He came to Jesus and at night and said Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God for no one could perform the signs you are doing.
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If they were not from if if God were not with him.
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Jesus replied.
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Very truly.
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I tell you, no one can see the Kingdom of God unless they are born again.
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How can someone be born when they are old? Nicodemus asked. Surely they cannot enter a second time into their mother’s womb to be born.
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Jesus answered very truly I tell you, no one can enter the Kingdom of God unless they are born of water and the spirit flesh gives birth to flesh.
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But the spirit gives birth to spirit.
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You should not be surprised at me saying you must be born again.
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The wind, the wind blows wherever it pleases.
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You hear its sound, but you cannot tell.
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Where it comes from or where it is going so it is with everyone born of the spirit.
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How can this be nicodemi?
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Asked you are Israel’s teacher, said Jesus. And you do not understand these things very truly. I tell you, we speak of what we know and we testify to what we have seen.
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But still you people do not accept our testimony.
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I’ve spoken to you of earthly things and you do not believe.
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How then will you believe if I speak of heavenly things?
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No one has ever gone into heaven except the one who came from heaven, the son of man.
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Just as Moses lifted up the snake in the wilderness, so the son of man must be lifted up, that everyone who believes.
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May have eternal life in him.
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For God so loved the world that he gave his only one and only son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life.
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For God did not send his son into the world to condemn the world, but to save the world through him.
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I want you to think for just a second.
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About groups around us that influence what’s important to us, think about it.
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What are some of these groups?
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That that influence.
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What you think or what others think are important?
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And I’m going to give you an example that I actually talked about with with my family yesterday because it, if you have noticed.
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There is, over the past few years, a change that takes place within our the whatever the popular drinking vessel is, so water is important.
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You should all hydrate.
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Hydration is good.
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A few years ago, well Yeti was the cup of choice that you wanted to get, and it was like, oh, this is really expensive.
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I figured out a way to work the system.
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For some reason there is a Security Agency that is convinced that tapestry has a building and they were like Pastor Robert.
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If you watch this this seminar, you’ll get a free Yeti.
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Like, OK, that would be nice.
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I could use a Yeti.
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I watched a seminar.
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Are you interested?
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No, we don’t have a building.
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We can’t use a security system, ABB.
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Your your mom might want one here, but they it’s like, oh, OK, OK, we’ll send you the Eddie.
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Hey, Pastor Robert.
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If you watch another seminar, we’ll send you another Yeti.
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OK.
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I watched another seminar.
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Would you like?
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Would you like this security system?
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It’d be great for sure.
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This looks really good, I agree.
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This is really top notch.
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We could probably really use this if we had a building we don’t have a building.
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OK, OK.
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We’ll send you Yeti, pastor Robert.
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Would you like to watch another?
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I watched 3 stinking seminars.
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I have a Yeti now.
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My wife has a Yeti.
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Now I think, Adam.
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You’re the only.
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Immediate member of the former nuclear family that did not get a Yeti because you were not living at the house at that time.
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You got a wife.
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Instead, I think you made a better choice, OK?
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Not that sounded really bad.
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That’s not what I meant.
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We’re just going to go home now, guys.
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If you remember like.
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People really into this and then it went from Yeti to like Hydro Flask and then it went, I know.
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And then it went from Hydro Flask.
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What was the other one that you guys talked about that you said that I didn’t remember it?
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Which makes me think from The Muppets my favorite character was beaker on The Muppets, and now it’s Stanley Cups.
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I have a Stanley coffee coffee thermos that that I love that I take with me hunting or watching Eagles.
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I love it.
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Those things you’re selling for, like apparently 70 bucks now for a Stanley.
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Stop, because some people decide to use this and it influences everyone else.
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You were wondering where this was going or OK.
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You see this around.
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Think of the groups that influence you and those around you that say this is what’s important in life.
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There’s a lot of it.
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Here’s why I bring this up.
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Our passage today starts with this.
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Now there was a Pharisee.
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The very first thing we know about Nicodemus is that he was defined as a Pharisee, and the reason that’s important is there were groups in the ancient Near East, specifically in Judaism at this time that were thought groups that influenced how everyone.
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Reviewed the.
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The world now, there are a lot of different groups there.
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I’m going to talk about 3 specific groups, but there were a lot of different groups, OK, but religiously there were these, for lack of a better phrase, religio political groups that were concerned about one question.
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And that question was.
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Why is Israel no longer powerful?
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God had said that we were the chosen people. God had said that David’s Kingdom would rule forever and we are now subjugated by Rome.
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Why is Israel no longer powerful?
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And you had three groups, and if you notice this artist basically set them up a little differently.
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You had the Sadducees, who were more priestly.
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You had the Pharisees who were more scribes, and here’s the different.
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The priests, the Sadducees, were concerned with the ritual of the temple.
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They were concerned very much with what happens in this ritualistic practice and how is that ritualistic practice continued elsewhere.
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The Fierces were very much considered are concerned with the law, so think this way.
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Church Service Bible study.
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And then you had the essence, Essenes.
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They were like, everybody’s messed up.
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We’re just going somewhere else.
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So here’s how they approached him.
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The Sadducees were convinced that Israel was no longer powerful because they had chosen the wrong side, and the Sadducees said if we do the ritual right and we’re faithful, that’s the most important thing.
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God will lift us up again.
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So what we need?
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To do is make sure that that Rome is happy with us.
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And we are able to continue to do the sacrifices.
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So they very much fed into the power structures of Rome at the time and they’re like everybody needs to do the ritualistic practices.
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So they would encourage you, you had these powerful priests that were encouraging people to do it.
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And when you read the story of Jesus, you see where priests.
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We are basically concerned with, Oh my gosh, he’s ticking off Rome.
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That’s going to stop the sacrifices from happening in the temple.
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We have to deal with him.
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We have to get rid of him.
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The Essenes over here.
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Basically had the mindset of everybody is so evil that there’s no way for us to redeem it.
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We’re going to separate ourselves from everyone else.
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Now you have heard of them, even though you didn’t know that you’ve heard of them. Because we in the 1930s is this wonderful gift that was discovered in a.
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The Cave that was known as Kumaran, and specifically the Qumran community, was known to be there.
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We know it as the Dead Sea Scrolls.
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We have the Dead Sea Scrolls because of the Essenes and it’s a great gift because some of the.
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The best examples of Old Testament literature we have come from the Dead Sea Scrolls, and the reason those exist there is because this group right here said everybody is ruined.
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There’s no repentance possible.
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Only thing we can do is separate go out into the wilderness, escape everybody else, and then we can live a pure life.
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And finally, God will lift us back up so that Israel will be redeemed.
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So you have people here.
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That are we’re going to lean into the power structure.
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You have people here that are we’re going to escape the power structure.
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And the Pharisees are kind of in the middle.
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The Pharisees are convinced the reason that Israel is no longer powerful, the reason that Israel is subjugated is because the people of Israel were not following the law properly.
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And they specifically meant by that 613, what would be known as mitzvah laws, commands righteous acts that you were supposed to follow, and they were saying if we can get the people of Israel to follow the law perfectly, then God is going to lift Israel back up.
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And we will again be the powerful people that we were supposed to be.
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Nicodemus comes to Jesus at night.
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And he says the following, he says.
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Rabbi, we know that you are a teacher who has come from God for no one can perform the signs you were doing.
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If God were not with him and Jesus answers him in a way that seems to not actually answer his question, Jesus says the following.
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He says this very truly I tell you, no one can see the Kingdom of God.
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Unless they are born again.
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Nicodemus comes and says you’re doing great things, and no one can do that without God being with him, but his whole background is 1. He’s a part of a group that’s saying if we want to be lifted back up by God again, we have to make sure that we follow all 613 laws. We have to make sure that everyone does it. There’s an old story.
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About Pharisees, this is probably apocryphal, but the story is that their foreheads were constantly bruised because they were so convinced that they would be tempted if a woman walked past them.
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Because women are evil, that is me saying that in quotes, OK.
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OK, I’m not actually saying that.
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I guess I did actually say that, but I’m saying it in quotes, that they were worried they would be tempted that they had constant bumps on their foreheads.
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Because if a woman walked by them, they would turn this head, turn their head this way or away from the woman, and would walk into things nonstop.
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They were concerned with purity.
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Over and over.
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Again, that’s what Nicodemus is coming out of.
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And he sees Jesus and says this man is doing the things of God.
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I have to go talk to him.
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And Jesus understands affairs.
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He’s talking to me at the end of the day.
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What they’re concerned with is what do we have to do for Israel to be lifted up again?
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Nicodemus takes Jesus too literal in one way.
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He he does this wonderful statement where he says how in the world can a man.
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Be born again.
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How how does a person get back up into the womb and and those of you who’ve given birth before?
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We’re probably like I am very thankful that is not possible.
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That would be very painful, that would not be.
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But what I think happens so often is while Nicodemus took Jesus physically, literally too much.
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We don’t take.
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Jesus, literally enough when it comes to life.
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His answer literally was.
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You need a new birth.
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And I think so often when we hear new birth, we think new as in going back and doing a second try, we think new as in restoration.
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But when Jesus talks about new, he’s talking about transformation.
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It is a different way of life.
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The poet that we watched at the beginning used a phrase that comes from Scripture where it is people turning the world upside down.
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When we sang the Ren collective song, which is I forgot the name of it.
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Build your Kingdom here.
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There’s one phrase that is change the atmosphere.
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What you think about that for just a SEC.
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What would happen to us if the atmosphere in this room was changed?
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We die.
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We can’t exist it.
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We have been created to live in a certain atmospheric condition, to be able to live in a different atmospheric condition.
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We either have to somehow bring our atmosphere with us or entire system would have to be changed.
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Jesus is talking about a new birth where he’s saying.
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You’re being born.
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Into a new set of values, because what happens again and again is we just want to take the values that are around us and make them religious rather than looking for a different set of values.
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We are in the midst of Lent.
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A few weeks ago, we saw people walking around with ash in their forehead.
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Matter of fact, if Sarah Reeve is watching this today, I had the photo showed with me.
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I was going to put in the slide show and I didn’t.
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But Sarah Reeve sent Pam a photo this week that said if you remember the statement from Lent is, remember thou art dust and to dust you shall return.
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And she sent us a photo of a sign that says, remember thou art dust, and to dust you shall return.
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Therefore, I do not dust.
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Oh, I I didn’t catch the last.
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Part so.
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I did not catch that the last part was because it might be someone I know that makes it even funnier.
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See, I only get half the joke and I still thought it was funny.
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Lint is supposed to remind us that all the systems that are telling us this is what you should value.
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Are dust.
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And the reality is, followers of Jesus so often we do not look for upside down values.
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Instead we take the values of the world.
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And we just try to make them religious.
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If you think about it, you’ll think of lots of examples.
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I think Lindsey did an example up here, not in a bad way, Lindsey said.
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We’re not trying to say that Aaron Stomp.
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There we go.
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Aaron Strempel is wiser than than Martin Luther.
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Because the value of this world is is that you, if you have charisma, if you have great learning, if you are a great speaker, then you probably have wisdom.
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But there’s no no actual connection that you will have great wisdom just because you’re a great speaker.
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If you look at the history of Martin Luther, he was.
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A jerk.
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Is a jerk that God used.
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I’m convinced that Paul was probably a jerk also, and God used Paul because he was able to use that ability to accomplish his will, but it doesn’t mean that somehow Martin Luther is holier than you or I.
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It means Martin Luther had the right talents at that time for God to be able to use that kind of needed a jerk.
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For the Reformation to happen.
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Now, that may sound a little weird until you start thinking we have a story of Jesus watching everyone give their offerings at the temple and he says that one specific person does it right.
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Anybody know who it was?
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As a widow who threw 2 little small coins in, we call it the widow’s mite. Jesus literally says everyone else is giving a lot.
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She gave next to nothing and that is the greatest gift that happened today.
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It’s not the only example.
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All of Scripture is again and again the values being turned over.
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The first will be.
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And the last will be.
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But even when we know that we struggle when the songs we said today was that our weakness would be made strong.
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But if you look at Scripture, what it says instead is that God’s strength is made perfect in weakness.
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It’s not that weakness has somehow changed into strength, but literally when God displays his strength, it is weakness.
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You look at Scripture again, Jesus is glorified not when he is lifted up at the end.
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His glorification literally is when he is.
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On the cross.
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When our God is calling out my God, my God, why have you forsaken me?
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He is in the midst of his glorification.
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His coronation is king.
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The values of the Kingdom are the exact opposite.
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And we have to be challenged from that, Thoreau.
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Who I don’t normally quote, but I think it fits, said the following.
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He said never use a clicker was that?
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You or me?
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OK, alright, he said.
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I went into the woods because I wished to live deliberately to front only the essential facts of life and to see if I.
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Could not learn.
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What it had to teach, and not when I came to die, discover that I had not lived.
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Now I have real problems with rowing some things, but what I liked is he understood that where he lived.
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Influenced who he was.
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I want to be this person.
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I need to escape this spot and go and live in this spot.
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And when we try to make the world’s values religious, when we try to say we’re going to reach more people if we’re more popular.
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We’re going to reach more people if we have a larger system.
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We are influenced by those values.
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To follow a false gospel.
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And it is.
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All around us and it, I mean today for me.
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One of the things I love the size of tapestry, but we had like three weeks in a row where we were bursting at the seams.
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Bursting at the for us, OK?
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We were back close to what we were pandemic wise. We had 41 people here. Yes, last week. That’s huge for us. We ran out of bulletins for the first time in a long time.
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And I love you.
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Got you were my friends, and I was upset when there weren’t as many people here today.
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And some of us, my pride, because my son and my daughter-in-law are here today, and I want you to. I want them.
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To see it like we’re back.
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Higher numbers are not a.
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Value of the Kingdom of God.
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There is nothing more holy about large church attendance, but we buy in that lie all into that lie all the time.
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You will hear in church healthy things grow, which is pure baloney.
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Healthy things mature.
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If you continue to grow, it’s called giantism and it’s not a good thing.
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And this morning, rather than going father, I am so thankful.
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For these constant reminders of the image of God that I am surrounded with.
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I was going.
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Why are we low today?
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Because I live in the wrong values.
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Jesus said.
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My Kingdom is not of this world.
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If it were, my servants would fight to prevent my arrest by the Jewish leaders, but now my Kingdom is from another place, he says this in challenge to someone saying I have power over you.
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My kingdom’s not here and.
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That doesn’t mean it’s just blandly.
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Spiritual he’s saying I literally live in a different system.
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Where what is good and what is bad are different things than what you value.
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And yet so often as believers in Jesus Christ, we claim the values of the world, we just try to make them religious.
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We are influenced by where we live.
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Paul says do not conform to the patterns of this world, but be transformed by the renewing of your mind.
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Then you will be able to test and approve what God’s will is his good, pleasing and perfect will.
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And when we come to lent, we are not only recognizing that we are dust.
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We are not only recognizing that we have.
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Then, but we are recognizing that the world we live in, the world we are constantly influenced by the world that says what is good and what is bad is dust also.
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And we have to come to him and say change us now.
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The new birth is not about a new start.
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It’s not about a maybe this time I will be able to correct it.
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It is enter an entirely different world.
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The atmosphere has changed and for that to happen you have to be a new creation with new lungs that can can take up nourishment from this other stuff that is viewed as poisonous and is weak.
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Nietzsche’s problem with Christianity was that he saw it for what it really was, and he says it makes humanity.
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Weak and Jesus’s answer is yes, because my strength is made perfect in weakness.
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So when we come to lent, we not only recognize our own sin, but we recognize the failure of the values around us, and we beg for a new birth.
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So before I suggest what I think we can do with this, does anybody have?
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Anything to add?
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OK.
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So how do you live in a new world?
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Not through our own effort.
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Jesus describes it literally as a new birth.
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What did you do to get born?
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Not diddly squat.
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You sat in your mother’s womb. At least I’m assuming we all came out of a womb you sat.
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In your mother’s womb.
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For nine months.
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Maybe a little more if you were late, maybe a little less if you were early.
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I think we have to constantly come back and.
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Well, in the back table we have a sticker from from Dietrich Bonhoeffer that’s there every week.
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It says, Lord, I do not understand your ways.
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But I know you are the way for me.
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I think Lent gives us the chance to come back and say.
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What is dust all around me?
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And how is it influencing me?
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Jesus, I do not understand your ways.
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But I know you are the way for me.
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And that may be destructive, but it’s always destructive.
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That leads to construction.
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It is deconstructing around us.
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That we might live in the Kingdom of God.
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So this week.
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Recognize you live in a dusty place.
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So if you will join with me and singing.
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The closing prayer.
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Praise God from whom all blessings flow.
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Praise him.
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All creatures here be low.
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Praise him up all of Ye heavenly host, praise Father, son and Holy Ghost homily.
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You live in a dusty world.
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I live in a dusty world.
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Remember you art dust, thou art dust.
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But we have a God who breathes life into dust.
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Have a great week.
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OK.
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Thank you for joining us on video.
Paul continues to talk about facing the divisions he saw in the church in Corinth. In these chapters he answers the divisions with love.
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Spiritual gifts are given by God for the good fo the church but the church in Corinth was using them to expand the divisions in the church.
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We begin a new message series on Paul’s First Letter to the Corinthians. In it, he begins his battle against syncretism – the joining of non-Christian beliefs with a false form of the gospel. Jesus’s love and resurrection counteract all the other voices.
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Resurrection isn’t just a one-time event or just something we celebrate once a year. Resurrection is part of the new life and we should share what the new life that Jesus gives us is all about.
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The message of the resurrection seemed like nonsense and an idle tale because we don’t expect death to be defeated. We need “rumble strips” to warn us of the danger of leaning back into death.
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Jesus’s triumphal entry was probably not the only big entrance into Jerusalem that week. There were two competing kingdoms. Jesus was in control of everything. Luke 19:28-40
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Mary anointed Jesus with very expensive perfume as an act of worship and trust. In essence, she was “burning her boats”. Judas, on the other hand, trusted in resources. John 12:1-8
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We talk about what is usually called the Parable of the Prodigal Son, though its focus is on the Father and the His response to his two sons, and the “pearl-clutching” moments that are a part of it. God’s grace is shocking. Luke 15:11-32
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We walk through the parable of the unfruitful tree and compare it to the world’s normal understanding of scales of good or bad. God produces the fruit. We don’t. Luke 13:1-9
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The Pharisees, Herodians, and Sadducees had different “scripts” directing the goal of their lives. What is the “script” that directs the goal of your life? Luke 13:31-35
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During Lent we focus on Penitence, Prayer, and People so that we might remember that Jesus defeated death in His death. Luke 4:1-13
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In Advent, we remember the coming of the Lord, both His birth and His second coming. This week we focus on remembering His coming in Peace. Luke 1:39-55
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In Advent, we remember the coming of the Lord, both His birth and His second coming. This week we focus on remembering His coming in Joy. Isaiah 12:2-6.
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In Advent, we remember the coming of the Lord, both His birth and His second coming. This week we focus on remembering His coming in Faith. Luke 3:1-6.
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In Advent, we remember the coming of the Lord, both His birth and His second coming. This week we focus on remembering His coming in Hope. Jeremiah 33:12-16.
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God’s discipline comes out of love. It always comes out of love. Amos tells Israel of God’s coming judgment and it is done out of love.
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God gave His people prophets, to speak His word, priests, to lead them in ritual to remember His word, and Nazirites, to be reminders of His word. The people had selective hearing regarding what God said.
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The prophet Amos delivers God’s word and God uses Israel’s own prejudices against themselves to point out their own sin. Amos 1:3-2:6
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God uses the unlikely and unpowerful to get His message across. Amos wasn’t a prophet or the son of a prophet. He was probably a migrant worker. Yet God used him. Amos 1:1-2
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Our Worship “Gathering” for Sunday, February 7, 2021 – to be watched at 10:30 am Sunday morning (though if you start it later you will be completely inline with normal Tapestry behavior). Building a wall when none is needed.
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Our Worship “Gathering” for Sunday, January 31, 2021 – to be watched at 10:30 am Sunday morning (though if you start it later you will be completely inline with normal Tapestry behavior). Did God really say that?
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