Routines & Ruts: Recent Episodes

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Routines & Ruts with Madeleine Dore is about the days we find flow, and the days we go completely off track.

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Host Madeleine Dore shares reflections on ending her labour of love, and introduces a new beginning.

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In this final episode of season three, Madeleine explores the fear behind perfectionism — and how often the only antidote to being afraid of the work, is to do the work.

Explored in this episode:

  • ​Routine of the week: Lessons from running
  • Rut of the week: Allowing for the fallow
  • The two traps of perfectionism
  • How we mislabel laziness
  • The fear behind procrastination
  • Collecting failures and mistakes
  • Worthy v worthwhile
  • The gap between taste and ability
  • How we are never complete

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In this special episode, Madeleine answers all your questions on writing and publishing a book — with answers exploring themes such as courage, process, and patience that are relevant to any project or endeavour.

Explored in this episode:

  • ​Routine of the week: Delightful-discipline
  • Rut of the week: Pretend holiday
  • Procrastination v self-sabotage
  • Reaching your potential
  • Courage
  • Feeling worthy
  • Knowing when an idea is ready
  • How to find support to write
  • Getting an agent and book deal
  • Organising ideas and themes
  • Starting

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In this week's quandary, Madeleine answers her own quandary! With her first book I Didn't Do The Thing Today now in book stores, Madeleine offers herself some timely advice for addressing self-doubt when putting something into the world—which is advice that also doubles as advice for living.

Explored in this episode:

  • ​Routine of the week: choosing a word for the year
  • Rut of the week: the power of a declaration
  • Self-doubt
  • Comparison
  • Defining success
  • Building a ballast
  • Expectations

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This week's quandary is all about making and sticking to resolutions—and why it might be more worthwhile to expand ourselves, rather than fixate on changing ourselves.

Explored in this episode:

  • ​Routine of the week: keeping a spiral diary
  • Rut of the week: the antidote to worry
  • The freedom that comes with asking "What if nothing changes?"
  • Swapping promises for action
  • Deciphering between shoulds and wants
  • Making a let go and a let in list
  • Not adding more to your list
  • The power of patience
  • Holding intentions lightly with a word of the year

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This week's quandary is about how to know when you need to go easy on yourself and rest, and when you need to push through complacency to get things done.

Explored in this episode:

  • ​Routine of the week: a portable routine
  • Rut of the week: putting things in the 'cloak room'
  • How we are set up to fail with the pressure to be doing more
  • Productivity 'self-gaslighting'
  • Inspecting the circumstances we're in
  • Stepping outside the productivity guilt spiral
  • Cultivating acceptance and being kind
  • The importance of enjoyment

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This week's quandary is about being inconsistent. Madeleine shares how she embraced one of her biggest productivity-guilt stumbling blocks.

Explored in this episode:

  • ​Routine of the week: morning pages
  • Rut of the week: people pleasing
  • Why we are inconsistent
  • ​The cost of consistency
  • Consistency v intensity
  • Being congruent over consistent

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This week's quandary is about how to make a decision when you're caught in a yes/no spiral. Madeleine unpacks the standstill of indecision, how to handle the regret we can feel, and mixes many metaphors!

Explored in this episode:

  • ​Routine of the week: finding your first domino
  • Rut of the week: relearning how to mingle
  • How indecision is a decision
  • Building your decision making muscle (previously explored in season two)
  • ​The myth of the right decision
  • Handling regret over a decision

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This week's quandary is several in one: how to know if something is good enough, how to determine your life purpose, and how to know where to start. Madeleine unpacks the hesitation behind asking how, so you can overcome it and step into the moment in front of you.

Explored in this episode:

  • ​How asking how keeps us stuck
  • Figuring out what you want
  • ​Knowing if you're any good
  • Find your purpose
  • ​Where to start​
  • Curiosity as the antidote​ to hesitation

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It's been a minute! To introduce season three, host Madeleine Dore reflects on disappearing for a while to write her first book, I Didn't Do The Thing Today.

Also, to delve further into the lessons on letting go of productivity guilt, this season Madeleine will be dishing up counterintuitive lessons in the hope that it can lead you to figuring out your own needs, patterns, and way of doing things

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Thank you for listening to the second season of Routines & Ruts! To stay tuned for season three, please subscribe or follow the podcast on your preferred listening platform.

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Episodes mentioned:

  • Period preacher' Lucy Peach talked about the connection, creativity and truth in the menstrual cycle
  • Academic and author of Sand Talk Tyson Yunkaporta shared thoughts on how time, routine and patterns
  • Self-taught astronemer Greg Quicke on the cycles of the universe
  • Writer Kylie Maslen on likening living with invisible illness to watching the storm
  • Author and psychotherapist Hilary Jacobs Hendel on the ebb and flow of emotions
  • Writer and activist Sarah Wilson spoke about on tilting and modulating over finding balance

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The final episode for season three asks, how do we find the beauty in the break and determine our preference for rest?

Mentioned:

  • Explore the DIY workbook mentioned: TIME, SPACE & QUIET
  • Re- by designer Molly Grover

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“Frugal hedonism is partly about noticing when less is more, and that applies to activity just as much as in the realm of consumption.” – Annie Raser Rowland

Artist, horticulturalist and co-author of The Art of Frugal Hedonism: A Guide to Spending Less While Enjoying Everything More talks about creating a life less dependent on the comforts of consumption and more focussed on extracting maximum pleasure from the most essential parts of being human.

In this conversation, we speak about the routines of a frugal hedonist, limiting the burden of choice in our days, working on the things that might never be seen, recalibrating, relishing, the pleasure of experiences, how we can have the “Getting Feeling” from learning things, not just buying things, busyness as an obsession, and how comparison shapes our ideas of wealth and consumerism.


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In this mini episode, Madeleine shares her trusted "puddle theory" from the DIY workbook, TIME, SPACE & QUIET.

Download the puddle priority list and the DIY workbook at sideprojectessions.com and make time, space and quiet for the things you're putting off. 

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“Ultimately the goal is to communicate our wants, needs, fears and boundaries confidently and effectively.” – Hilary Jacobs Hendel

Psychotherapist and author of It's Not Always Depression: Working the change triangle to listen to the body, Discover Core Emotions and Reconnect with Your Authentic Self talks about the importance of emotional education to help us connect to each other and ourselves.

In this conversation, we talk about how emotions live in the body, why we avoid feelings and how to judging them, slowing down, the power of feeling, dealing and relating, the different types of shame, guilt and boundaries, moving through small traumas, how we are made up of parts, and how something as simple as learning to take a compliment can help us sit with emotions.

Find more resources at www.hilaryjacobshendel.com


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This week's mini episode asks, how do we spend less time ruminating and worrying about what other think?


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“Often we think within our 10-foot radius that everything is happening to us. Step outside of that 10-foot radius and you’ll frequently see that the same things are happening to others around you at the same time. Perhaps that can make it easier if we’re able to see that it is not just all about us.” – Greg Quicke

Self-taught bush astronomer and author of Is The Moon Upside Down? Greg Quicke talks about the powerful lessons for everyday life we can find in the cosmos.

In this conversation, we delve the awe-inspiring ways astronomy can stretch our minds and hearts—how it can be a reminder that we’ve got nothing to lose, and the relationship between order and chaos. We talk about meeting challenges with joy, how to find and follow your flow, cultivating patience, and choosing to see beauty in the ordinary and extraordinary.


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This week's mini episode asks, how do we learn to ask generously and say no kindly?


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"If we’re going to get serious about talking about disability and mental health, then we need to talk about what that really looks like for everyone involved.” –Kylie Maslen

Author of Show Me Where It Hurts: Living with Invisible Illness Kylie Maslen discusses how creating a shared understanding of someone’s day to day can help break down the barriers between the well and unwell.

In this conversation, we discuss the importance of routine to reduce decision fatigue, but also the flip side of this constant vigilance. We also delve into burnout, the ableist idea of equating output with our worth, the Pomodoro technique, isolation and loneliness, community, and Kylie introduces me to spoon theory as a way to create boundaries but also be generous with other people’s energy.


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This week's mini episode asks, how do allow both attention and distraction into our days?

Mentioned:

  • Everything I learned from (finally) completing The Artist's Way

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Author of Sand Talk: How Indigenous Thinking Can Save the World Tyson Yunkaporta speaks to how when we reduce creativity to a marketplace, we overlook how we are all creative.

“Creativity is now widely regarded as a vaguely defined skill-set falling randomly on individual geniuses. Deep engagement encompassing mind, body, heart and spirit has been replaced by a dogged ethic of commitment to labour, enthusiastic compliance with discipline imposed by authority," writes Tyson.

In this conversation, we meander through topics including routine as the death of relation to people and place, the involuntary ruts we experience from being entangled in a system, allowing flow in your environment, not being a brand, checks and balances, and how ambition can be directed towards leaving tools for generations to come – and the most powerful of those tools being story.


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This week's mini episode asks, how do we let go of what we think we 'should' be doing?


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Pandora Sykes is a writer, journalist and broadcaster—but as she shares in this conversation, she’s a gatherer. In the book, How Do We Know We're Doing It Right?, her writing and columns and in the acclaimed weekly podcast The High Low she co-hosts with Dolly Alderton — Pandora is constantly collecting, exploring and dissecting the work of writers, psychologists, culture critics, philosophers, scientists on everything from life’s trivialities to the political—and how the two are interconnected.

In this conversation, we speak about how smaller worries can sometimes feel the biggest, how we can be driven by feelings like guilt and envy rather than feel stifled, satisficing, arrival fallacy, healthy boredom, tick-boxing and finding our own version of what what is rightful, rather than right.


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This week's mini episode asks, how can we get out of the indecision spiral?


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Sarah Wilson is a former journalist and TV presenter, best-selling author and activist, whose latest book This One Wild and Precious Life explores how vital individual change is in a world demanding more of us

In this conversation, we speak about using routine to bookend your days, tilting rather than abiding by strict rules, cool aloneness as an antidote to loneliness, how you can always add an AND, the concept of creative fending, reframing a rut as going to your edge, soul-nerding, and showing up to our appointment in life – in our own way.

For details on the 2021 This One Wild and Precious Life book tour, visit sarahwilson.com


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This week's mini episode asks, can empty time be a gift—and can we find it in a crammed life?


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From working as a baker and a chef, to an actor and yoga teacher across the globe, Kemi Nekvapil has lived many lives. Now as a credentialed life coach, a speaker and author of The Gift of Asking and host of The Shift Series short form podcast, she credits exploring various career paths as helping draw her own definition of success and how she spends her time.

In this conversation, we speak about letting go of shoulds, how you connect the dots looking back, not giving advice, parenting, having a weekly routine, writing, and defining your own relationship to productivity.


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This week's mini episode asks, can a small good thing help with overwhelm?


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We live in a linear world – with linear schedules, and linear expectations of our energy, or our time, our bodies. But what if we don’t move throughout our days in straight lines, but rather ebb and flow in cycles?

In this conversation, author of Period Queen: Life hack your cycle and own your power all month long Lucy Peach delves into cycle amnesia, period shame, truth bombs, post-project blues, freelancing, and giving yourself permission to both finish and begin.


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This week's mini episode explores the different types of doing – and what gets in the way of doing our thing.


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Why do we sometimes hide from our selves, and where are we hiding?

In his latest bookThe Inner Self: The joy of discovering who we really are, social researcher Hugh Mackay explores our top twenty hiding places, including busyness, perfectionism, guilt, ambition, work and even the pursuit of happiness.

In this conversation, we talk about how creativity can narrow the gap between who we pretend to be or hide, and who we really are.

We talk about compassionate love as a daily discipline, writing, walking as a crucial part of the work day, being a night owl, and delve into our common hiding places such as work busyness, projection, ambition, and perfection – and how we can find our common humanity inside ourselves.


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Ever feel like you're not doing enough, or doing too much?

In the break between podcast seasons, I’ve been inspecting the space between the doing and not-doing and asking what it means to replenish.

So I’m delighted to introduce Rest & Recreation. It's a weekly mini-episode that gives you a moment of R&R, but also a reminder that we aren’t just what we do or don’t do, but also what we see in the spaces in between.

As well as the new mini-episodes, I’ll be speaking the usual interviews with inspiring people. This seasons is not just about their creative lives, but their entire lives – how they see the world and what brings them extra-alive.

Looking forward to sharing with you very soon!


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Throughout this season I’ve reflected with my guests on various topics relating to our creatives lives, including process, productivity-shame, mistakes, money, vulnerability, self-compassion, uncertainty, self-sabotage, self-growth, joy, setbacks, privilege, letting go, solitude, resilience, busyness, heartbreak, patience, mental health, limitations, and learning.

To wrap this first season, I wanted to share some lessons on the thing that almost prevented it from ever getting started – perfectionism.

Perfectionism tells us that in order to make progress, to put what we have created into the world, it must be perfect.

My intention was to wrap this first season by sharing the lessons I had accumulated specifically about the creative process and perfectionism. But as I wrote and as the days unfolded, I realised these lessons pertain to much more than our creative lives – they pertain to our entire lives.

In the same way perfectionism stalls progress in our creative lives, it can stall progress in our societies.

This non-exhaustive list of parallel lessons might apply to your ongoing engagement with being anti-racist or an activist, or they might apply to your creative process, or your career, or your life, your relationships, or your environmental efforts, your scrutiny of yourself, your need for rest, your showing up in the world. Most of all, I hope they are helpful in highlighting that anything we want to do or change, begins with sidestepping perfectionism, fear, denial and shame. It begins with us taking responsibility for ourselves and our actions.

Mentioned links

  • How To Be Anti-Racist by Ibram X Kendi
  • Akilah Hughes piano metaphor and What A Day podcast
  • Artist Sir John
  • Instagram story by author, podcaster, and CEO of Hello Seven Rachel Rodgers
  • Me and White Supremacy book by Layla F Saad
  • Anti-racism work is supposed to be hard by Scott Woods
  • Ibram X Kendi on Unlocking Us with Brene Brown
  • Interview with Dom Roberts on Mood with Lauren Elizabeth
  • “The internal work, the integrating and rearranging and and re-educating our psyches and hearts, that’s the hard work, that’s the work nobody will hold you accountable for. Do that too. Do that the most…” – Kendra Austin
  • Interview with Luke Currie Richardson on Routines & Ruts

Additional links:

  • A Small Needful Fact poem by Ross Gay
  • How do you measure a life? School of Visual Arts 2016 commencement address by Carrie Mae Weems
  • White Debt essay by by Eula Biss
  • Remember, no one is coming to save us essay by Roxanne Gay
  • ‘There cannot be 432 victims and no perpetrators…’ essay by Amy McQuire
  • Always was, Always Will be with Marlee Silva podcast
  • Include Aboriginal culture as a subject in schools change.org petition

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We often hear that emotions such as joy are cultivated within, but for designer Ingrid Fetell Lee, there is a strong possibility that it can be found in our surroundings.

For over a decade, Ingrid has been devoted to answering the question: "How do tangible things create intangible joy?" both through her blog, The Aesthetics of Joy and her incredibly insightful book, Joyful: The Surprising Power Of Ordinary Things To Create Extraordinary Happiness.

Ingrid's ongoing investigation explores the powerful connection between our surroundings and our emotions, and shares how we can find more joy in daily life – even in difficult times.

In this conversation, we talk about the aspects of joy that are challenged now but why it’s more valuable than ever, finding ways to zoom out, the relationship between joy and resilience, planning what’s important but giving yourself permission to be flexible, why sometimes we just aren’t ready yet, surprise, and allowing for the rise and fall of joy and sorrow.

Read Joyful: The Surprising Power Of Ordinary Things To Create Extraordinary Happiness

Watch Where Joy Hides and How To Find It on TED Talks

Follow @aestheticsofjoy on Instagram


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Matthew Evans is a former chef and food critic, turned Tasmanian smallholder, restaurateur, food activist and star of the SBS television series Gourmet Farmer alongside his family.

As the author of over a dozen books including On Eating Meat: The truth about its production and the ethics of eating it, Matthew also has a lot to share on the writing process, but what struck me in this conversation is the wonderful overlaps between life on the farm and the creative process.

We talk about what happens when productive work loses its meaning, daily life on the farm and how there is always more to do, accepting your limitations, how being behind is inevitable and mostly a good sign, the beauty of boredom, and how sometimes you have to launch in to avoid getting stuck in a research phase or perfectionism.


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There is no one way to navigate a pandemic. This routine-collage and slice of creative life during COVID-19 showcases these differences as well as unifying reflections.

Bringing together over 60 difference perspectives – from dozens of listeners and more than thirty artists and creatives I’ve previously interviewed – you can hear how other people are coping, their routines and their ruts, and maybe feel less alone in your own.


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This podcast is produced and edited by Madeleine Dore. Special thanks to Nelson Dore for the theme music and Ellen Porteus for the cover art.


A very special thank you to each of you who shared your experiences and advice in the survey – you made this slice of creative life possible. Alongside your written responses, featured in this episode in order of appearance:

  • Jeffrey Phillips – illustrator @jeff_the_peff
  • Mari Andrew – writer, artist and speaker @bymariandrew
  • Stavroula Adameitis – artist and designer @fridalasvegas
  • Bethany Simons – writer, performer and director @bethsimstagram
  • Anu Kumar – documentary photographer @kumar_anu
  • Shannyn Higgins – photographer @shannynhiggins
  • Sarah Nargorcka – artist and cartoonist @gorkiegork
  • Gabrielle Tozer – writer @gabrielletozer
  • Julia Busuttil Nishimura – cook and author @juliaostro
  • Matthew Henry – designer and photographer @oakandink
  • Neha Kale – writer and critic @nehakale
  • Judith Lucy – comedian and host of Overwhelmed & Dying podcast
  • Frankie Ratford – designer and founder of @thedesignkids
  • Tai Snaith – artist and host of A World of One’s Own podcast @taisnaith_books
  • Carly Findlay OAM – writer @carlyfindlay
  • Mark Lobo – photographer @marklobo
  • Ebony Bižys – craft artist, designer and blogger @hellosandwich
  • Honor Eastly – writer and podcaster @honor_eastly
  • Spencer Harrison – artist @spenceroni
  • Mama Alto – performer @mama.alto
  • Frankie Valentine – stripper, performance artist, costumier and writer @frankievalentine
  • Melanie Stapleton – florist @ceciliafox
  • Chaz Hutton – illustrator @instachaaz
  • Frances Haysey – writer @lovedbyfrances
  • Tess McCabe – designer and publisher @tessmccabe
  • Amrita Hepi – dancer and choreographer @amrita_moves
  • Juliet Sulejmani– illustrator @thejulietreport
  • Melanie Knight – artist, producer, and art therapist @dead_letter_club
  • Lorelei Vashti – writer @loreleivashti
  • James Lemon – ceramic artist and teacher @jameslemon
  • Sarah Firth – comic artist, author and graphic recorder @sarahthefirth
  • Prue Aja – photographer @prue_aja_photographer
  • Peter Drew – artist @peterdrewarts and Together Soon Enough posters

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Every strength we perceive in ourselves or others perceive in us, has a flipside that feels like a weakness.

Often it’s our traits that make us extraordinary that can make us feel most ordinary – and vice versa –creating an internal contradiction.

Figuring out our contradictions and squaring off those sides of ourselves can take years, decades, but often when we do accept or even reveal them, that’s really when we connect with ourselves and others. Isn’t that what we’re looking for? In ours we are most fascinated by their flaws, maybe most comforted.

This week’s guests certainly makes it easy to connect and adore her wonderful contractions – and puts them front row and centre in her Twitter bio.

Performer, photographer, visual artist, DJ and vocal powerhouse Kira Puru describes herself as an “opinionated imposter” – in it exploring the fickleness of confidence but also the humbleness of learning to be wrong.

Ahead of her latest single launch, Idiot, in this conversation Kira Puru discusses mental health, navigating the logistics of living through a pandemic and sometimes curling up like an armadillo, giving yourself leeway to be overwhelmed, balancing the artistic and the political, frugality, mistakes and that tension between leaning towards chaos and leaning into routine.

Follow @kirapuru on Twitter and Instagram


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For this week’s guest, knowing we are enough permeates everything she does.

Kylie Lewis is a coach, consultant, and Certified Dare to Lead™ and Certified Daring Way™ Facilitator, based on the research of Brené Brown.. Her interview series turned book, The Leap Stories explores how there’s no single path to success and no formulaic way to conjure the courage to take a first or next step toward a fulfilling work life.

In this conversation, we talk about navigating our days imperfectly, how it’s normal to have ‘horizontal days, taking it one moment at a time, self-compassion, collective vulnerability, boundaries during this time, comparison, and aiming for enough.

Follow @ofkin on Instagram


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In Luke Currie-Richardson's own words, he may not know what he does for a living, but he knows why he wake up in the morning.

Luke is a descendant of the Kuku Yalanji and Djabugay peoples, the Munaldjali Clan of South East QLD and the Meriam people of the Eastern Torres Strait Islands. His younger years were spent as a basketball player, and from 2012 to 2018, he was a company dancer in Bangarra Dance Theatre.

Recently, Luke has hosted a short Buzzfeed documentary Pay the Rent. He has also worked as a model, sessional teacher, poet, photographer and mentor. But all of this falls under the umbrella of a storyteller. For Luke, irrespective of the medium, the why remains the same: to be the best ancestor he can be for all generations.

This approach proves that 'being the best' is a term of your own making, your own measure.

In this conversation, Luke delves further into this idea of it’s not what you do it’s the way that you do it, navigating the loss of work during this time, his thoughts on routine being more about priority than rigid structures, the toxicity of sayings like “the show must go on” and “fake it till you make it,” the power of asking for help and taking care of your mental health, and knowing when to walk away from something.

Follow @balaluke on Instagram


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Poet May Sarton once wrote, "People who have regular jobs can have no idea of just this problem of ordering a day that has no pattern imposed on it from without."

This week’s guest has never had a problem with ordering her own day, in fact, the fashion icon has long resisted the structures often imposed from without.

Sarah Jane Adams is a self-made antique jewellery dealer, designer and became an international model in her sixties, responsible for the #mywrinklesaremystripes social media movement celebrating the beauty in ageing.

Her new book,Life In A Box: An Unorthodox Memoirillustrates the deeply personal connection that we have with our belongings and our lives. But, as you’ll soon hear, Sarah Jane Adams lives her life very much outside the box.

We talk about how her daily life resembles a sliding tile puzzle toy, how there is no such thing as certainty, being a misfit, living with openness and joy, solitude, self-sabotage and pressing the reset button.


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For this week’s guest, resilience is what has helped him navigate the highest of the highs, and lowest of the lows, many times over.

Jai Long is a photographer, educator and creative entrepreneur. Most recently, he has been at the helm of three successful businesses – including Free the Bird wedding photography Heartbreak Booth, workshops for creatives navigating business, complemented by his incredible podcast, Make Your Break.

But it wasn't always this way. In this conversation, Jai shares the story behind his success, confidence and drive – and the times he has been forced to press the reset button, or simply chosen to let go.

We talk about being impactful rather than busy, how we are all wired differently, not putting your spark out for other people, the complicated relationship between money and the idea of designing your life, failure, fear, and so much more.


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There’s a quote going around on from Glennon Melton’s book, Carry On, Warrior: Thoughts on Life Unarmed and it reads: “You have been offered the gift of crisis. As Kathleen Norris reminds us, the Greek root of the word crisis is "to sift", as in, to shake out the excesses and leave only what's important. That's what crises do. They shake things up until we are forced to hold on to only what matters most. The rest falls away.”

What’s left, as this week’s guest points out, can actually be joy in the slowness. Gold coast based artist Samuel Leighton-Dore is a satirical cartoonist, a painter, ceramic artist, filmmaker, a regular contributor for SBS Sexuality and author of the graphic novel 'How to be a big strong man'.

Samuel has rare ability to be both light-hearted and joyful, and deep and reflective – proving that laughter can be balm for uncertain times.

In this conversation, Samuel share his three-tiered approach to balancing various projects, the little things you can do to feel more disciplined working from home, toxic masculinity, the connection between ambition and depression, failure, untangling your identity from creative success.


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Beci Orpin does her best work when she is busy,

With a creative career spanning more than twenty years, the Melbourne designer, artist, and illustrator has left her colourful fingerprint on countless projects, from books and homewares, to regular art exhibitions, and collaborations with celebrated brands.

While she reflects on the busyness of her day to day and how it has laid the foundations for her impressive career, she hesitates to prescribe to the cult of busyness, and instead sees the important of sleep, downtime, and developing close relationships with friends and family.

What Beci teaches us is that instead of being busy as a means of escape or a form of pride, our time should be filled wherever possible with the things we enjoy in order to flourish.

In this interview, we talk about how she gets so much done, personal projects, the precarious nature of freelancing, money, emailing, family, criticism and resilience.

Extraordinary Findings:
– Grief Awards Chart
– Take Heart Take Action book
– Article on comparison and redefining success
– Jacky Winter Group
– Read the archive: Beci Orpin and Raph Rasid
– Follow Beci Orpin on Instagram or visit beciorpin.com


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Prioritsing yourself isn't selfish, says writer, crafter and blogger behind Meet Me At Mikes, Pip Lincolne – but it sure can be difficult.

In this conversation, Pip opens up about the difficult period she faced after the end of a 23-year-relationship – and the book it has since inspired, When Life Is Not Peachy.

We delve into winding and twisting path Pip took to a creative career and writing books after she left high school in year eleven, but also feeling like an outsider, parenting and creativity, falling back into yourself, wobbly routines, social media and success, fitting in writing around a day job, solitude and resilience.

Extraordinary Findings:

– Read When Life Is Not Peachy by Pip Lincolne
– Illustrator Gorkie
– Sign up to Pip's 'Something good for the weekend' newsletter
– Find Pip Lincolne on Facebook and Instagram or meetmeatmikes.com


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Annie Louey is a fresh comedic talent who putting it all into her career and immersing herself in the world of presenting and comedy

While time is on her side, Annie is well aware of the long road to success – from her own observations, it takes at least ten years to pave a career in comedy, so it’s time to begin now.

But what’s refreshing about the 10-year time line, is that it also shows the need for patience. It’s not a moment of spontaneous success, it’s what’s underneath that that counts – it’s about bouncing back from a bad gig, rejection or setback, and putting yourself out there once again.

We speak ahead of her upcoming Melbourne Comedy Show, Annie Louey’s Big Break, which is both a hilarious and thoughtful recount of how she was dumped on the opening night of her last Comedy Festival show.

In this episode, we talk about how to step into being an artist even when you don’t feel ready, the importance of preparation, setting targets in our career, imposter syndrome freelancing routines, how admin is the key part of creative careers bike riding and how to find motivation within yourself.

Extraordinary Findings:
– See Annie Louey's Big Break at the Melbourne Comedy Festival
– Interview with fashion designer Jenny Kee on the highlight is always coming
– Mari Andrew's illustration on success
– Find Annie Louey on Twitter and Instagram or at annielouey.com


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This week's guest has spent the last few years delving into the topic of limitations through researching and writing his latest book on time.

Oliver Burkeman is a British author and journalist living in Brooklyn. He writes a popular weekly column for The Guardian on social psychology, productivity and the science of happiness, called This Column Will Change Your Life and is the author of The Antidote: Happiness for People Who Can’t Stand Positive Thinking.

In this conversation, we delve into how he has moved through a rut from the book writing process, how goals can become redundant very quickly, the Kanban method, self-control and distraction, parenting, shadow working, insomnia, the difficulty of doing nothing and how we can get out of a rut by breaking our own rules.

Extraordinary Findings:
– The Summer Day by Mary Oliver
– David Cain's newsletter Raptitude
– Hofstadter's law
– Debbie Millman's ten year plan exercise
– Already Free by Bruce Tift
– Braintoss app
– Kanban method
– Self Control app
– The Moves That Matter by Jonathan Rowson
– Why do we feel so busy? It’s all our hidden ‘shadow work’ article by Oliver Burkeman
– Notes from my previous conversation with Oliver Burkeman on not having a routine


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Tina Essmaker is a coach, writer and speaker and in early 2017, she had the opportunity to reimagine career and her four burners when she transitioned out of the The Great Discontent, a publication she started with her former husband and business partner.

She took what she describes as a gap year to figure out what she wanted to next and eventually returned to her roots as a social worker, now helping the creative community to navigate uncertainty and take action on their ideas.

In this conversation we speak about why we sometimes flail when we don’t have constraints in our days and careers, the dance between scheduling and spontaneity, chunking tasks in your week, finding space for yourself after a divorce and what can help when you’re dealing with a period of change, hurt or uncertainty.

Extraordinary Findings:
- Freakonomics episode on how to get more grit in your life
- Ask Polly advice columns by Heather Havrilesky
- Laugh, Kookaburra by David Sedaris
- Follow Tina Essmaker on Instagram or visit tinaessmaker.com


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Lauren Martin is a writer and the founder of Words Of Women, a labour of love she started when she was searching for something to help herself and other women who were feeling lost.

In this episode, Lauren delves into the intricacies of self-initiated work and the thoughtful process behind writing and curating her popular newsletter, blog and Instagram account.

We talk about flat days and good days, social isolation, how routine helps when you’re in a rut, comparison, the tension between being a night-owl but being clearest in the morning, as well as how personal projects can buoy us.

Follow Words of Women on Instagram or visit wordsofwomen.com


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Dancer and movement director Vanessa Marian Varghese describes her career as a succession of failures – trying to start an online homewares store and failing, trying to be an art director and failing. Finishing a law degree but not wanting to pursue it.

But when she didn’t know what she was going to do with her life, she took a dance class and learned something.

Now, that curiosity and learning has blossomed into a career in dance and thriving business, Groove Therapy.

We talk about how the secret to life is being a student, allowing business and ideas to grow without pushing, going easy on yourself with your daily habits and finding the beauty in faffing.

Extraordinary Findings:

– How to Live on 24 Hours A Day by Arnold Bennett
– We Are All Going to Die project by Stefan Hunt
– Deep Work by Cal Newport
– Madeleine's favourite sleep mask
– Follow Vanessa Marian on Instagram or visit groovetherapy101.com


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As John Lennon put it, “Life is what happens to you while you're busy making other plans.”

As a loyal proponent of the Bullet Journal, I've seen first hand how the immensely popular analog system goes far beyond planning and teaches you to be more intentional with list-making – and life.

If there is one person who understands intentionality beyond our plans it’s this week’s guest. Ryder Carroll is an author, digital product designer, and inventor of the Bullet Journal method.

Diagnosed with learning disabilities early in life, Ryder was forced to figure out alternate ways to be focused and productive. Through years of trial and error, he developed a methodology that extends far being a simple organisation tool and into a philosophy.

Best described as a “mindfulness and intentionality practice that’s disguised as a productivity system” it becomes whatever you need it to be.

In this conversation, Ryder discusses empty goals and starting with the small ‘whys’, how journaling can help us capture and see patterns in work and life, creating your own structure as a freelancer and independent creative and more.

Extraordinary Findings:

– New to the Bullet Journal? Start here with a video tutorial

– The Bullet Journal Method by Ryder Carroll

– Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker PhD

– Follow Ryder Carroll on Twitter or visit bulletjournal.com


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This week’s guest is unquestionable gifted in an astonishing array of disciplines – Amanda Palmer is a singer, songwriter, filmmaker, playwright, pianist, author, director, blogger and ukulele enthusiast.

It’s easy to compile Palmer’s successes and accredit it all to a perfect, productive creative schedule. But the as Amanda freely admits, there was a time when her relationship with productivity was punishing.

In this episode, Amanda talks about how we can crush progress with perfection both as a culture, and as individuals.

We talk about reframing and resizing your suffering, why we need blanket compassion, the importance of sleep, parenting and creative routines, setting boundaries, pausing projects, and finding your own internal measures for success.

Extraordinary Findings:
– Find tour dates for There Will Be No Intermission
– This is Water by David Foster Wallace
– Why We Sleep by Matthew Walker PhD
– Esther Perel at CreativeMornings
– Follow Amanda Palmer on Twitter, Instagram and Facebook
– Support Amanda Palmer on Patreon


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Adriana Picker has a career many illustrators would pine for – she’s illustrated four books, held numerous exhibitions of her illustrations and paintings, and her list of clients includes Vogue, Gourmet Traveller, Mecca Cosmetics, and T2.

Despite the impressive bio and dream projects, Adriana opens up about a particular variety of creative rut that can be spurred on by doing the thing you love to a point of exhaustion.

Adriana is candid about the privileges and pitfalls of working on dream projects – and shares how she had to return to the mundane, ordinary, basic elements of self-care to rebuild after burnout.

We talk about the book writing process, seasonal routines, saying no, productive rest, and whether you’re in the ebb or the flow, the winter-fallow or the blossoming spring – it’s all relevant and important to the creative process.

Extraordinary Findings:
– Pre-order Petal: The world of flowers through an artist’s eye by Adriana Picker
– Bird by Bird by Anne Lamott
– Follow @adrianapicker on Instagram


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My guest today is writer Benjamin Law, who has contributed to over 50 publications and has authored, co-authored and edited more than a handful of books, including the Quarterly Essay on Safe Schools, Moral Panic 101.

His memoir, The Family Law, was adapted into three seasons of an award-winning SBS TV series, which Benjamin created and co-wrote.

He is also a columnist, playwright, radio host, and regular guest on TV shows like Q&A, The Drum, and The Project.

Which is all to say, Benjamin is an expert in shifting gears. While he credits his colour-coded iCal for his time-management prowess, after our conversation, I’m convinced his curiosity and energy plays an important role in making Ben one of Australia’s most prolific and beloved writers.

Join me in listening to Benjamin Law as he takes us through a typical day, how he manages several projects on the stovetop at any given period, and advice for moving through post-goal blues.

Extraordinary Findings:
– You've accomplished something great, now what? NY Times
– It's time to become a time realist NY Times
– Follow @mrbenjaminlaw on Twitter


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When Clare Bowditch was 21 years old, she made a promise to herself: that she would one day write a book.

The promise came during a period of unrest, unworthiness, and uncertainty for the now musician, actor, radio presenter and entrepreneur.

There was one particularly comforting caveat to this promise: that she would wait until she was in her 40s to write it, when it was all behind her.

Fast forward two decades, and Bowditch has written that very book, Your Own Kind of Girl published by Allen & Unwin.

It’s the result of patience and a promise, and the overlooked art of relinquishing pressure from our life ambitions.

In this debut episode of Routines & Ruts, Clare Bowditch discusses taking it one step at a time, the book writing process, and how letting go can bring us the most extraordinary experiences.

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Your Own Kind of Girl by Clare Bowditch


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Five years ago, I started a project called Extraordinary Routines. It's been a labour of love that has given me an excuse to ask creative people nosey questions about how they spend their days.

Time and time again, I saw there are always two sides to the shape of our days – there’s the discipline, habits, processes, order and structure. Then there’s the challenges, the set backs, the imperfections, the countless distractions.

I wanted to dive further into these two sides, to show them in real time, and invite you to be a fly on the wall, too. So I’m delighted to tell you about something I’ll be sharing with you very soon – it’s called Routines & Ruts, and it’s my very first podcast.


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Looking forward to sharing the first episodes with you... very soon!